[Call To Order]
[ROLL CALL]
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
[PROCLAMATIONS]
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LECLERC MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. FALL INTO ORDER. REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY'S SECURITY COMMISSION. JANUARY 25TH 2021 5:30 P.M. AT 1.1 SELFLESS FLAGLER AVENUE.
WHERE COULD WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR CLARKE. YES, MY SPARE MATHESON HERE.
NATIONAL BURNER HERE. MR MACDONALD, YOUR MR MEYER HERE. UM THE SONG STAND. CONSIDER PEACE AND UNITY. IN OUR COMMUNITY. OUR NATION. WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED BY OUR SPARE. HI. JULIE IS SOMETHING. PROBABLY WHICH IS STANDS ONE NATION. YEAH. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR TODAY. WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS. UM BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM. PROCLAMATION SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT DURING MY COMMENTS, SO WHATEVER YOU WANT, OKAY, MENTION IT NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY IN MARTIN COUNTY, WE'VE HAD THE WONDERFUL BLESSING OFF HAVING FOLKS AT THE STATE LEVEL. UH, ON THE STATUS OF WOMAN. POINT I MEAN, I GUESS YOU WOULDN'T CALL IT A POINT. THEY'VE DECLARED MIS TELMA WATERS OF INDIAN TOWNS ALONG TIME RESENTED MARTIN COUNTY TO BE, UM. ONE OF THE WOMAN, I'D CALL IT. A WOMAN OF DISTINCTION FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A CELEBRATION ON JANUARY 28TH.
VIRTUALLY ONLINE WITH STATE THROUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT FROM TALLAHASSEE. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, SETTING OUT AN INDIAN TOWN AT THE TIME OF POWERS PARK. AND MANY FOLKS
[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]
WILL BE THERE, AND I'D LIKE TO GO THERE FROM OR CITY OF STEWART AND ATTEND AND ALSO BRING IN HAND WITH ME. PROCLAMATION JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THIS GREAT AWARD FOR MISS TELMA WATER, SO IF MY BOARD WOULD. AGREE WITH ME TO DO THAT. I'LL HAVE THE WORD IN BASED ON THE A CLAIM THAT THE STATE HAS GIVEN TO HER AND WE WILL SEND THAT OFF AND YOU CAN ALL LOOK IT UP.IT'S EASY, THELMA WATERS, RECEIVING THIS. WOMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD. MADAM MAYOR WENT TO DATA THAT JANUARY, 28TH. I CERTAINLY AGREE. RIGHT? OKAY, SO CITY MANAGER AND I WILL WORK OUT THE WORDS TO THE PROCLAMATION. AND I WILL BRING THAT WITH ME IN HONOR OF MISS THELMA WATERS OF INDIAN TOWN. THANK YOU. NO OTHER PROCLAMATIONS AIR LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THERE'S ALSO NO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT TO THE MANAGER?
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ALTHOUGH I THINK MR FREEMAN WOULD LOVE LOVE TO GIVE US A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. LOOKS READY. NO, JUST GET IT. S O COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. MR BRUNER. OH, YES, MA'AM. YOU COULD USE YOUR MICROPHONE. YES. YES, MA'AM. FIRST. I WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.I WANTED TO TALK WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSIONS AND DEBRA SELLER, BUT THAT DELIBERATION I HAVE A TOP THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. IT'S OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES OKAY, WHAT REGARDING? YOU HAVE THE LEAST IN FRONT OF YOU? AND I WANT TO AGREE. MARKET YES. YEAH YOU LIKE OUT OF DISCUSSION DELIBERATION TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. HUH? YOU'D LIKE TO ADD A DISCUSSION IN DELIBERATIONS TONIGHT'S MEETING. I'M TRYING TO SAY. THANK YOU. OKAY? AND IN DID I JUST GET THAT PRINTED OUT? OR DID EVERYBODY PRINTED OUT OR DID YOU? I DIDN'T GET THAT. JUST GOT IT FIXED. I DON'T HAVE THAT CITY MOMENTS. I HAVE AN EXTRA. DON'T PRESS. HE WILL. THANK YOU, UM. I NEED TO GET THIS. YOU CAN'T PLAY THAT MUSIC WILL CHEER. WE'LL GIVE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. OH, YOU GET TAKE ONE FROM VICKY AND GIVE IT TO SPEND THERE'S ONE MORE THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL SAW IT OR NOT, BUT EVA SAMPLES ON FACEBOOK. SHE SHE'S NOW WITH THE FRIENDS OF EVERGLADES, NOT WITH THE PRINCE ANYMORE. THEY'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER ANYWAY. SHE HELD A LIKE MEETING ON FACEBOOK TALKING ABOUT THE DANGERS OF THE ALGAE BLOOMS. AND SHE HAD ROBBED, LORD, UM PRESIDENT OF MARTIN MEMORIAL. AND SHE ALSO HAD DR PAUL ALLEN COX IS HIS NAME AND HE WAS FEATURED IN THE DOCUMENTARY. OF THE TOXIC PUZZLE, I THINK ALWAYS SAW THAT BUT ANYWAY AS I WAS WATCHING THAT, AND IT JUST GOT TO ME AFTERWARDS. UM. EACH SAYS REGARDING TO THE SINO BACTERIA EXPOSURE. IS THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM DOESN'T PRIORITIZE THE HUMAN HEALTH AND SAFETY AND I'D LIKE FIRST TOE.
YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? NOT TODAY, BUT JUST TO HAVE IT IN OUR MIND, BECAUSE WHAT COMMISSIONER MATHESON HAS DONE IS TO KEEP THIS OUT THERE ALL THE TIME NOW, AND THIS IS SO DANGEROUS.
HE'S TALKED TOXIC ALGAE BLOOMS. EVEN AHEAD SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO SAY. ROUTING IT DOWN.
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HAND TURN LANE HEADING SOUTH ON. HEADING SOUTH ON CANADA HIGHWAY, BUT WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONER MATHESON HAD BROUGHT THIS UP AS WELL BECAUSE HE'S ON SITS ON THE MPL ABOUT LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO DO THREE LANES TURNING LEFT FROM CANADA HIGHWAY TO US ONE. LONG STORY SHORT IT IT. IT'S NOT REALLY PRACTICAL. SO IT'S AH, IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT RIGHT AWAY PURCHASE, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T IT ACTUALLY WOULD NOT MAKE IT ANY WAY THEY HAVE TO TIME LIKES IT WOULD NOT BE. BETTER BUT ONE OF THINGS THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT WITH THE POSSIBILITY LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION AND BRICK MAKING THAT INTERSECTION A MPO PRIORITY IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THE RIGHT AWAY TO MAKE A THREE LANES TURN. BUT I ALSO HAD SUGGESTED THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT MPO IS GONNA LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION. WE REALLY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT NOT ONLY THAT INTERSECTION BUT ALL THE WAY FROM US ONE TO PALM CITY ROAD. WE REALLY GOTTA DEAL WITH PALM CITY ROAD FROM JUST FROM A U.S. ONE PERSPECTIVE THAT HOT RIGHT IS DANGEROUS. IT'S GETTING MORE DANGEROUS AS WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC. AND I BE HONEST, I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY HE'S BEEN HIT AND KILLED.
CROSSING PALM CITY ROAD BECAUSE OF THAT HOT RIGHT NOW, SO. I'M HOPING TO OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
GET THIS PUT INTO THE MPO IS AN MPO PRIORITY, TO START REALLY LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE SECTION OF ROAD THERE BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN A LOOK AT BECAUSE FROM A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY POINT OF VIEW, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS, AND IT'S ALSO ONE OF THE MOST HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS AND MARTIN COUNTY. I THINK THEY SAY 45,000 CARS A DAY. GO BETWEEN CANADA HIGHWAY AND THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE ON US ONE. SO IT'S A INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT GOES THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION EVERY DAY. UM NEXT THING IS I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MICHAEL ROBERTS. I THINK I SAW HIM HERE REGARDING THE ROAD TO VICTORY MILITARY MUSEUM, AND THERE'S I'LL TALK TO STAY AFTER SPENT SOME ISSUES INVOLVING THE OPERATORS OF THE MUSEUM AND WHICH MICHAEL DOES NOT OPERATE ANYMORE. BUT ABOUT ABOUT NOT BEING KEPT UP STAFF IS HAS ALREADY SENT, THERE AS CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY SENT STAFF OUT THERE TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE AND WORK ON GETTING IT RESOLVED. HUH? NEXT KIND OF IN THE LINES OF SINCE WE WERE THERE. PROBLEMS AT MEMORIAL PARK. MEMORIAL PARK AND FLAGLER PARK BEEN SEEING AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE AND IT'S AH, IT'S A CHALLENGE. BUT STARTING HERE, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO USE THE PARK. WORKS BECAUSE OF IT, AND UM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, THIES FOLKS DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO AND IN WHICH IS VERY SAD, BUT, UM, I WAS WONDERING, MAYBE WE COULD REACH OUT TO LIKE AND CITY HELP KEEP FOR THE TENT CITY HELPERS OR ONE OF THEIRS. ALSO A MINISTRY UP IN PORT ST LUCIE, IT DOES A LOT WITH THE HOMELESS. MAYBE YOU COULD REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY'S FOLKS AND. SEE IF WE CAN HELP GETTING SOME HELP BECAUSE UM RELOCATE. JUST RELOCATING PEOPLE DOESN'T HELP. IT JUST MOVES. IT MOVES ONE PROBLEM TO ANOTHER ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. SO BUT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, TOMO TO GET THESE FOLKS ASSISTANTS BECAUSE. IT'S NOT IF THE PARK'S CAN'T BE USED FOR THEIR INTENDED USE. THAT'S A PROBLEM, TOO. SO IT'S AH AND THEN FINALLY, I SEE. I SEE. WE HAVE CHRIS RUDIGER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WANT TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO. THANKS FOR KEEPING US SAFE. YOU AND ALL OF YOUR ALL OF YOUR ASSOCIATES.
COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDONNELL PERMISSION ADMIRE, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE ONE. HAPPY UPDATE FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE PUBLIC. AS A VICE PRESIDENT THIS YEAR, THE LEGAL CITIES WERE ALREADY BEGINNING, TONTO FOLLOW LEGISLATION THAT'S BEING FILED BILLS THAT ARE BEING FILED. BYE. LEGISLATORS ESPECIALLY THOSE OF OUR DELEGATION, AND REPRESENTATIVE OVER DORF HAS ALREADY FILED HB 2057 APPROPRIATION REQUEST FOR ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY. $100,000, I THINK THAT Z JUST GREAT TO SEE HIM DO THAT SO EARLY OUT THE GATE. WE DON'T HAVE A COMPANION. WILL FILED YET BY SENATOR HEREL. THIS'LL IS GONNA BE A CHALLENGING BUDGET YEAR, SO I HOPE THAT IT SURVIVES, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT REPRESENTATIVE OVER DORF IS UM IS FIGHTING FOR US ALREADY AT THE GATE. UM I, UH.
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DON'T WANT TO EXTEND THE MEETING TOO LONG, BUT I ALSO WAS GOING TO ASK FOR A DND ITEM THIS EVENING TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON. I KNOW I HAD BROUGHT IT UP LAST MEETING COMMENTS. OUR SINGLE USE PLASTIC ORDINANCE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. UM. NO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE. BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM IN THE CLEAR LIGHT OF DAY AND ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE WORKING. WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THEM WORK BETTER. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE ANY RULES ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED. OR SELECTIVELY BEING ENFORCED. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD POLICY. FOR INSTANCE, JUST ARE ONE ORDINANCE SINGLE USE PLASTIC MATERIALS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.NO. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE SWORD GREENMARKET PUT. PERHAPS I KNOW THAT AT THE END, OKAY FESTIVAL, WHICH WAS WONDERFUL. YOU KNOW VENDORS. THERE WERE SELLING MEALS ON PROVIDING SINGLE USE PLASTIC MATERIALS ON OUR PUBLIC PROPERTY, SO I JUST WANT US TO SOBERLY LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE AND DECIDE HOW WE CAN GO ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY ENFORCEABLE. IF IT IS IT ALL. SO I'D LIKE FOR THAT BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THAT THIS EVENING. AS A MATTER OF BUSINESS. I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER TWO HUN FROM CONSENT. UM I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW. CONGRATULATE AND THANK COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR MATHESON. I SAW IN THE NEWS. YOUR BOAT TOUR TOLD US ABOUT IT, BUT WONDERFUL THAT YOU ARE.
CONTINUING TO CHAMPION THE ISSUE OF OUR RIVER QUALITY AND BRINGING IN OTHER STAKEHOLDERS COMMISSIONER FROM MIAMI. I'D LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. I'M SURE YOU'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WHO DOES A GREAT JOB. AND THANKS FOR THE FIGHTING THAT YOU DO. UM AND THEN, FINALLY, UM THEY'RE GOING TO PICK UP ON WHAT. COMMISSIONER MACDONALD HAD SAID. I KNOW THAT OUT OF OUR. VISION MEETINGS WITH YOU, MADAM MAYOR THAT WE DID EARLIER THIS MONTH. UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF PICK UP ON SOME OF THE COMMON THEMES. I WATCHED ALL OF THEM. I THOUGHT WE ALL YOU KNOW, HAD A SIMILAR UM. VISION WE ALL HAD VERY COMPLIMENTARY IDEAS, WHICH IS GREAT, AND SO I'D LIKE TO TACKLE A COUPLE ITEMS. I, TOO, HAVE BEEN NOTICING OF INCREASING VISIBILITY OF UNSHELTERED AND HOMELESS OR OTHER FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ON BUT I THINK IT MIGHT NECESSITATE US ACTUALLY, JUST HAVING A DEDICATED WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS BRING IN SOME OF THOSE LOCAL AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHAT COULD BE DONE. UM AND THEN PERHAPS HAVE AH CONTINUED DISCUSSION AROUND HOUSING. WE'VE IMPROVED A LOT OF HOUSING IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND IT MIGHT BE NICE FOR US TO ASSESS WHAT INVENTORY IS GOING TO BE BUILT. WHAT'S COMING ON MARKET AND WHAT PERHAPS NEW OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE HEARD SOME SIGNALS THAT THE. BY AN ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING TO PROVIDE FEDERAL RESOURCE IS FOR HOUSING FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN START TO KIND OF GET IN LINE FOR. S SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO DISCUSS HOUSING, MAYBE IN IN RELATION TO OUR ALMOST THIS ISSUE, OR JUST AS ITS OWN STAND ALONE.
THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE ASKING TOO? TO ADD THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC MATTER TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION OR TO ANOTHER AGENDA TO DNT FOR THIS EVENING, MADAME ERICA, OKAY? RIGHT? ALSO TO PULL NUMBER TWO. DEPLOYED NUMBER TWO. THANKS. UM. VICE MAYOR MATHESON. WE SHOULD WISH HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY AS WELL. NO. OH, YEAH. YEAH. I'M SO WELL, YEAH, BEFORE. WELL, YOU HEARD THE MAYOR IS GONNA SING, OKAY? YEAH, I NO, TROY. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. SORRY YOUR COMMENTS WERE OVER, RIGHT? YEAH THANK YOU FOR THE BIRTHDAY. OKAY, UM. WELL, LET'S SEE WHERE TO START. I'LL TRY AND BE QUICK TO TOUCH ON ON THE WATER. THERE'S AH A LOT OF STUFF, AS WAS MENTIONED HAS HAPPENED OVER THE PAST WEEK WITH THE WATERWAYS. AND, COINCIDENTALLY, A LOT HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY ON THE SAME DAY I KNOW COMMISSIONER OWNER. MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT, BUT ONE OF THE AMAZING THING THAT HAPPENED THAT I WAS SAD TO MISS WAS ALLAH PLATA FLATS AND WETTELAND. RESTORATION THAT OCCURRED OUT THERE THAT WAS OVER. 6700 ACRES OF WHAT USED TO BE NATURAL WETLANDS, AND IT WAS RESTORED
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BY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN CONJUNCTION WITH MARTIN COUNTY.UM NO, THAT'S GOING TO HOLD AND NATURALLY PURIFY A LOT OF WATER AND REJUVENATE OUR AWKWARD.
IT'S EVERYTHING THAT REALLY SHOULD BE HAPPENING ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THAT'S RIGHT HERE IN OUR WESTERN BACKYARD. UM IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS. IT'S A SIR PROJECT. IT'S PART OF ANY RIVER GLOOM SOUTH. IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. UM I WAS SAD, SAD TO MISS THAT RIBBON CUTTING OF THAT. UM BUT AS COMMISSIONER MEYER POINT OUT ON THE SAME DAY WE HOSTED MIAMI COMMISSIONER WHO HAS SOME LOCAL TIES TO THE CITY OF STUART COMMISSIONER KEN RUSSELL. UM WHO IS INTERESTED IN IN THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR WATER QUALITY UP HERE, ONDAS WELL WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING WITH THEIR WATER QUALITY. DOWN IN BISCAYNE BAY. YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SOME FISH KILLS OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS OR SO MOSTLY DUE TO LACK OF OXYGEN DOWN THERE, AND ONE OF THE CAUSES. UM. SO BELIEVED OF THAT LACK OF OXYGEN SEAGRASS DIE OFF SEAGRASS DIE OFF BECAUSE OF KIND OF HYPER SAILING CONDITIONS, UM, SOLUTION TO THAT WOULD BE FOR THEM TO GET MORE WATER. AND WE HAVE A TON OF IT THAT WE DON'T REALLY WANT HERE DURING THE WET SEASON. BUT IT ALL REAL SIMPLE TERMS, EH? SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS. BOND BRINGING CITY OF MIAMI TO THE TABLE. UM TOE, YOU KNOW, SPEAK UP, WHEN? WHEN NO. IN THE FIGHT TO HAVE MORE WATER SENT SOUTH THEIR WAY AND DISCUSS SOME OF THE BOTTLENECKS THAT ARE CREATED. OUR OWN DOING? AH WHY WATER CAN'T GO SOUTH ON. HOPEFULLY WE CAN SOLVE THOSE ISSUES. UM NO, THE OTHER THING. COMMISSIONER BRUNER TALKED ABOUT WAS WAS, UM. I KNOW THAT THE TOXIC PUZZLE AND HOW DANGEROUS CYANOBACTERIA AND MICRO ASSISTANT CAN BE IN THIS BLUE GREEN ALGAE THAT WE DO FACE IN THE SUMMERTIME.
HERE, UM TOXIC PUZZLE WAS DONE AND PRODUCED BEFORE 2018 BEFORE THAT MASSIVE ALGAL BLOOM AND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM FROM BIO ACCUMULATION. WE HAD DR ET WITTER FROM WORK TO COME HERE AND DISCUSS AT ONE POINT IN TIME, UPTAKE AND FIT. AND SHE. THIS WAS NOW A YEAR AND A HALF AGO PROVED THAT IT'S IN FISH LIVERS. IT'S IN FISH FILETS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE READ OTHER REPORTS OF, YOU KNOW, LETTUCE THAT ARE IRRIGATED WITH NO WATER CONTAINING MICRO ASSISTANT THAT THE LETTUCE WILL UP. TAKE IT SO DON'T JUST KEEPING THAT. THE DANGERS TO HUMAN HEALTH IN THE FOREFRONT AND THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IS FRANKLY, SCARY. WE HAVE TO KEEP IT AS A HOT TOPIC AND KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT. UM, REAL QUICK LAKE IS THAT 15? I'M SORRY, 15.58 FT WAY HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVING ANY DISCHARGES. BUT WE ARE STILL INCREDIBLY HIGH. ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, IT WAS POLICE. 15.68 FT. SO IT HASN'T DROPPED MUCH. UM AGAIN. WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY DISCHARGE UNTIL WE HOPE THAT. THE LAKE LEVEL DOES KIND OF DROP A LITTLE FASTER OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, YOU KNOW? WE'RE STILL IN A SCARY POSITION. COMMISSION MCDONALD AS HE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE MPO EARLIER THIS MORNING WE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION BY SECRETARY, RILEY AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO THANK HIM LATER IN THE. AGENDA ON THE WORK HE DID ON THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE, AND WE ALSO APPROVED THEY'RE KIND OF FIVE YEAR WORK PLAN AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER MCDONALD IT'S DONE. LIKE TO BRING UP WAS NO.
THE POSSIBILITY OR NOW THE APPROVAL. OF US ONE RIGHT TURN LANE SOUTH UNDER CANTOR HIGHWAY. UM. WITH THAT COMING UP. AS YOU WERE SAYING, WE'VE GOT PALM CITY ROAD WITH HOT RIGHT? WHERE ENCOURAGES TRAFFIC TO DRIVE DOWN PALM CITY ROAD COMING SOUTH BOUND ON US ONE.
WELL, NOW THAT. PROJECT WILL BEGIN FUNDING AND 2024. IT'LL BE A QUITE A FEW YEAR PROJECT JUST TO CREATE THAT RIGHT HAND TURN LING, BUT THAT DOES OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT CAN HAPPEN. WITH THAT HOT RIGHT? IS THERE A WAY TO CORRECT CORRECT THAT AND
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HOPEFULLY GET IT'S SOMETHING ON THE NPR PRIORITIES LIST THAT WOULD COME SUBSEQUENT OF THE RIGHT TURN ELAINE TO INCREASE CARS TO TAKE US WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO CANNER INSTEAD OF FUNNEL AND USE THE SHORTCUT OF PALM CITY ROAD THERE, UM AND I'LL JUST MENTIONED I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE. PAYING ATTENTION DURING THAT TIME. YOU WEREN'T ON THE MPO. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT THERE WAS A STUDY DONE. UM THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL OF LOOKING AT PALM CITY RODAS WITH A COMPLETE STREET POINT OF VIEW AND INTEGRATING SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS IN TOW. AND YOU KNOW IT WAS GONNA TRAFFIC LABOR.THERE S O WE CAN REVISIT THAT STUDY THROUGH THE MPL TOGETHER. MM. NO OTHER THAN THAT. THERE WAS SOME SOME NICE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING UP. THE OTHER ONE YOU MENTIONED WAS WILL BE ROAD IS AGAIN HE'S A LONG TERM PROJECTS. BUT THE FUNDING BEGINS IN 2022 FOR WILLOUGHBY ROAD TOW. EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO US ONE. BUT REALISTICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
BEEN HERE. 8 TO 10 YEARS. THE FUNDING WILL BEGIN IN 2022, BUT THAT'S A LONG TERM PROJECT. UM THERE'S SOME GAPS IN THE SIDEWALKS ALONG EAST OCEAN THAT WILL BE FUNDED AND COMPLETED IN 2023 BY AFTER UM NO. THE OTHER ONE THAT I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WAS THE CONTINUATION OF THE EAST COAST GREENWAY. WHICH SO HAPPENS WE'VE WE'VE APPROVED IT. RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT OF IT. THAT EAST COAST GREENWAY, WHICH THEY ACTUALLY NAMED THE SAILFISH CAPITAL TRAIL. WOULD GO OVER THE OLD ROOSEVELT BRIDGE AND CONNECT. ALL THE POTENTIAL OF SOUTH STUART TO THE PENINSULA NORTH STUART AND THIS IS AH! NO IN ROUGH AREAS BETWEEN US, 6 TO A 12 FT BITE.
MULTI USE PATH. UM SO THAT HAS. FUNDING BEGINS IN 2026 FOR RESEARCH OF HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE. AND THIS IS THE ENTIRE TRAIL, BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS SECTION RIGHT THROUGH CITY OF STUART WOULD BE OVER THE ST LUCIE RIVER. SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WOULD MY DAUGHTER'S 18. SHE'LL BE ABLE TO JOG OVER THE RIVER? MAYBE BUT. THAT'S JUST THE BRIEF UPDATE FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MP. OH, UM. OBJECTS ARE FUN TO SEE LONG TERM INTO THE FUTURE. WHAT WILL HAPPEN? AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS FOR TODAY. THANK YOU. UM VICE MAYOR MATHESON. START MY COMMENTS BY SAYING AGAIN. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, AND WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND IT'S AH, WONDERFUL THING FOR YOU TO HAVE YOU HERE IN OUR COMMISSION AND FOR YOU TO BE CELEBRATED. GREAT MILESTONE IN YOUR LIFE, SO CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY. SO AGAIN, COMMISSIONER MATHESON VICE MAYOR MATHESON, THANK YOU FOR COORDINATING WITH HER, UM, SPECIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND GET IN THE AH CITY OF MIAMI TO COME UP HERE AND TWO AGAIN HAVE THE RIVER OF FRONT. WE HAD LOTS OF COVERAGE ON IT, AND, UM.
PEOPLE ARE NOTICING WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND IT WAS. IT WAS A GOOD THING. IT WAS A GOOD MORNING TO MISS THE EVENT WITH THE COUNTY. BUT WE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BUSINESS HERE AT THE CITY OF STUART. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ORGANIZING THAT AND WORKING WITH THAT. UM I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER MEYER. SOMEBODY WHO MENTIONED ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY WHILE I WENT OUT TO THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND PRESENTED ON BEHALF OFF THE CITY OF STUART LIMITED PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK I GOT TO SAY WATER LIKE MAYBE 20 TIMES IN THE LITTLE TIME THAT I HAD TO SPEAK, AND SO THE MESSAGE WAS THERE THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM. YOU'RE BOTH BOTH SENATOR HAROLD AND UH, REPRESENTED OVER DOG AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES. SNYDER TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR BEHALF AND WE APPRECIATED WHAT REPRESENTED OVER DOOR HAS COMMITTED TO SO FAR, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE BEING A PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. WITH REGARD TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENTS IN EAST STEWART, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF THE ORDINANCE AND GOING THROUGH THAT, NOT JUST WITH THAT EVENT, BUT OTHER EVENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY
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LOOKING AT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE VENDORS AT THAT EVENT AND ALL EVENTS WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PERMIT THAT THEY GET THE PAPERWORK THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE IN JANUARY OFF 2021. SO WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP, BUT THAT WAS A GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT. AND TRULY A TIME TO BIND UNTIL FOSTER AND TO MAINTAIN AND TO CONTINUE UNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS DID. POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING. PUT IN OUR CHEERS, DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS WERE ACTIVE WITH A BEHIND THE SCENES PART TO THAT OR ON THAT DAY. WE JUST APPRECIATE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS OF THE STUART FOR COORDINATING WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND OTHER PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND DO THAT EVENT, SO. IT WAS VERY GOOD. THE SPEAKER WAS THE HONORABLE ANTHONY ANDERSON FROM THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. SO THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF GOING.THEO SEMINAL STREET TO THE RIVER HOUSE OPENING. I THINK COMMISSION, MACDONALD WAS ALSO THERE. AND THIS WAS THE ARTS MOMENT FOR ME. THEY WERE DEDICATED OUTSIDE RIGHT ALONG SEVEN OLD STREET. UH ARTWORK BY THE, UM. BRONZE SCULPTURE, JEFFREY SMITH. AND HE HAD THREE PELICANS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PELICANS THEY WERE. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY BIRDS JUST TO BE SURE FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, AND JUST A GREAT PIECE OF ARTWORK IF YOU'RE EVER WALKING ALONG THAT STREET THAT ADDS SO MUCH TOUR. CRETE STREETSCAPE INTO THE IDEA OF HAVING ARTS AND STUART AND THE DEVELOPERS OF THIS PROJECT WERE VERY WELL IN TUNE IN DOING THAT, AND WE APPRECIATE. THEM PUTTING IT THERE AND INVITED US TO BE THERE. UM I'D LIKE TO PULLED ITEMS THREE AND FOUR. AND AT THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT PULLING IT, IT'S INCLUDED WITH THE MINUTES BUT IT'S THE MINUTES THAT INCLUDED MY VISION. IN MEETING WITH THE COMMISSIONER IS THAT I'M GONNA BE MEETING MORE WITH, UM. THE CITY MANAGER TO JUST TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN PULL SOME THINGS TOGETHER BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE INTERESTS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE BUDGET ITEMS OR JUST HOW WE CAN WORK. SOME OF THESE IDEAS. FOR THE YEAR AND AS COMMISSIONER, MEYER SAID THINGS LIKE HOUSING HOMELESSNESS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY, I THINK LAST YEAR WHEN YOU WERE MAYOR, WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO A SUMMIT. AND THEN WE HAD COVERT AND WE JUST DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK WORK ON. AND OF COURSE, WE HAD THE WHOLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IDEA WHETHER OR NOT HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME POLICIES SO THAT'S SOMETHING BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE IN THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO MAY BE LISTENING ON ZOOM. PLEASE LOOK AT THESE MINUTES AND SEE WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BETWEEN EACH COMMISSIONER AND MYSELF. AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE VISION OF THE CITY OF STUART, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU. BUT AT THIS TIME, I'M ASKING TO PULL ITEMS THREE AND FOUR. AND WE WILL A NEW WILL ASK TO PUT ITEMS TO WHICH WOULD BE THE APPOINTMENT OF. ALL SOME MISS BATALI TO THE TO THE L P A WELL TO APPOINT TO THE PLANNING BOARD IS AND THEN I WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE IF IT WERE THE SECOND AT THE MLK VANT I MET THE NEW. SCHOOL BOARD SUPERINTENDENT AND I'LL BE MEETING WITH HIM ON FEBRUARY, THE SECOND OF THE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL SOUP SUPERINTENDENT AND ALSO. I THINK EARLIER ON WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION, SO THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF. I HAVE. NOTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT SO AT THIS TIME WITH. I MEAN, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS FOR ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YEAH, I GOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD WITH GOING FIRST. THERE'S A COUPLE MORE THINGS I WANT TO DO IT. OK WELL, YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, OKAY. YES, PLEASE. I WANTED TO THANK WHOEVER DID OUR CITY'S STEWART THE BOOKLET. EVERYONE SHOULD GET THAT THE ANNUAL REPORT. I WAS REALLY WELL DONE. AND THE AGGIE BLUE. UM, I WANTED MR CHRISTIAN MATHIS AND TO HAVE THIS TWO POINT MILLION TO MONITOR THE ALGAE BLOOMS AGAIN. SPOKE. WE ALL GOT HARBOR BRANCH
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OCEANOGRAPHIC INSTITUTE. AN INSTITUTE FOR SENSING AND EMBEDDED NETWORK SYSTEMS, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM THEY RECEIVED THE 2.2 MILLION GRANT FOR A PROJECT TITLED HARMFUL MAGGIE BLOOM'S ASSESSMENT OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE, AND I WANT YOU TO HAVE THIS MAYBE YOU OR IF YOU GOT THIS BOOK. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO HIM. WE SEE HOW IT IS AT THE END OF THAT THAT PROJECT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND I, UM I ALSO I DIDN'T. I KIND OF FORGOT SOMETHING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN. THANK THOSE WHO SERVE IN OUR BOARDS, AND WE HAD A MEETING PRIOR TO THIS MEETING WHERE WE APPOINTED A NEW NO. COME INTO REDEVELOPMENT BOARD CHAIRPERSON. MR LEWIS CHRISTMAS AND A VICE CHAIR, MR TOM CAMPENNI. I JUST WANT TO[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
THANK THEM AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THEIR BOARD FOR THEIR VOLUNTEERISM. AND UH, IT IS SO IMPORTANT AT THAT MEETING. ALSO WE APPROVED A BUDGET CHANGE FOR APPROXIMATELY $75,000. TO DO CROSS WALKS IN HE, STEWART. AND THESE CROSSWALKS HAVE AH, THEME AND COLOR SCHEME. AND THERE THERE WAS SOME SAFETY AND SOME OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED IN TRYING TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY.PERSONS CAN GO AND LOOK ONLINE TO SEE HOW THAT PRESENTATION WENT AS WELL AS PER REPRESENTATIONS THAT MISS BANAL GANDA SERVED A HAS WORKED WITH AND I'LL JUST LIKE TO GIVE MISS PANEL BADGE OF HONOR FOR THE THINGS THAT SHE DOES, AND FOR THE VISION IN GOING THROUGH FOR
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THE CITY FOR 2021, SO THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND THANKS FOR OUR VOLUNTEER GROUPS WHO PARTICIPATE AND HELP US TO THE PLANET AND SOME OF THE WORK OF THE CITY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR SHOULD WE GO TO THE CITY MANAGER? THE MANAGER. NOTHING ABOUT A MAN. NO COMMENTS. NO, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. TO PROVE THE EYE, A GENDER PULLING ITEMS, 23 AND FOUR AND ADDING.HER DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. THE GREENMARKET LEAST THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AS WELL AS OUR PLASTIC. NO. ORDINANCE SECOND OKAY? UM. WHAT? WHAT'S THE PRESSURE THE BOARD REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WOULD DO IT ALL IN FAVOR.
OK IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT OH, OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY THANK YOU. SO, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE REMIND US THAT WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PULLING THREE ITEMS. NOW WE'LL HAVE COME IN FROM THE PUBLIC. ESPECIALLY COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, AND THEY'RE RELATED TO AN AGENDA ITEM, WE'LL CALL IT UP AT THAT TIME, BUT IF IT'S A GENERAL COMMENT WE'LL JUST LET IT GO. SO FAR HAVE ONE GREEN CARD FROM MICHAEL MCROBERTS. MICHAEL ROW. SORRY. SORRY, MICHAEL. MICHAEL ROBERTS. THANK YOU. JUST COME UP STATE YOUR NAME AND THANKS. THANK YOU, MISTER. UH, MISTER. MAYOR AND AH, COMMISSIONERS. UM. FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU PAVED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. IT'S A LOT SMOOTHER AND I COULD GO A LOT FASTER. THANK YOU.
DON'T GO TOO FAST. IT WAS AWESOME. UM. PLEASE ACCEPT MY COMMENTS EXPRESSING MY HEARTFELT. DISAPPOINTMENT OVER THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD TO VICTORY. MILITARY MUSEUM. IT APPEARS THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF THE CONDITIONS OF THE MUSEUM. THIS MATERIAL TO DIRECTOR AMASS TICKLY AND ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC SIGNIFICANTLY RESTRICTED. JUST LAST WEEKEND. MY WIFE AND I WANT TO MEMORIAL PARK TO WALK OUR DOGS AND VISIT THE MEMORIAL AND NOTICE THAT THE MUSEUM YARD WAS PART FULL OF BROKEN DOWN. VEHICLES TRAILERS FULL OF CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS THAT SEEMED TO BE UNRELATED ACTIVITY AT THE MUSEUM. ALSO WHILE THERE A WOMAN AND A VETERAN FATHER WERE VISITING IN THE NAVY MEMORIAL MONUMENT BEHIND THE MUSEUM.
THEY WERE VISIBLY DISTRAUGHT. ABOUT THE HAPHAZARD DROPPED BACK OF THE MEMORIAL ON THE CONDITION IS OF THE VEHICLES AROUND THE MUSEUM. I'VE ALSO GOTTEN MANY PHONE CALLS, EMAILS AND. FACEBOOK POSTS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE MUSEUM, AND I'VE ASKED PEOPLE TO START
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SENDING THEM TO THE CITY. EVIDENTLY EVERYBODY THINKS I'M STILL RUNNING THE MUSEUM. IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 14 YEARS SINCE MY WIFE AND I, ALONG WITH SEVERAL VOLUNTEERS APPROACH THE CITY. ABOUT BUILDING THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY AT THE MUSEUM COINCIDENTLY AT THE TIME. MY WIFE WAS ALSO. WORKING WITH CITY LEADERS. ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE PARK AND THE REVITALIZATION AND PART OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE COMMUNITY. DEARING COMMUNITY, RESOLVING IN THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE PARK IN THE MEMORIAL WE HAVE TODAY. I CAN HONESTLY SAY I GO THERE. OFTEN AND TALK TO SOME OF YOUR CITY WORKERS. THEY[CONSENT CALENDAR]
DO AN AMAZING JOB KEEPING THAT PARK UP. THERE I I'M. GO TO A LOT OF MEMORIALS, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE. CAPTAIN. THE CONDITION THIS ONE IS. SO WHEN I COULD WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT FOR THE USE OF THE BUILDING IN THE LAND, IT WAS LIKE A DREAM COME TRUE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT APPEARED THAT THE SAME TIME THE CITY AND THE MUSEUM HAD THE SAME VALUES. WE'RE BOTH EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE MOMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND WATCH THE MUSEUM GRO. HONOR VETERANS AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THEIR SERVICE.AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DONE TO THE MUSEUM AND I MET YOU PERSONALLY THERE. DESPITE BEING NO LONGER INVOLVED. WE HOPE THAT THE MUSEUM WILL BE ABLE TO THRIVE AGAIN. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT APPEARS THE CITY MAY NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED WITH THE CURRENT OPERATORS IN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ENSURE THE BUILDING AND PROPERTY. UPTO
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APPOINTMENT OF LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY (LPA) ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER (RC)
]BETTER STANDARDS FOR THE COMMUNITY AGAIN, BUT VETERANS THAT WE HONOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FIGHT FOR JUST THINK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREVIOUS WORK WITH THE MUSEUM.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN A CARD, YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK AND FILL OUT A COMMENT FORM. THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS. LET'S MOVE TO, UM.
THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO BE IF WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE WILL BE PULLING ITEMS 23 AND. FOUR THE MAYOR. I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR LESS ITEMS 23 AND FOUR. THEREFORE 15 AND SIX SECONDS. AND SECONDED. UM, BUT MADAM CLERK, OR WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A ROLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE COMMENTS COMING COMMENT WELL, SORRY. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA. CONSTANT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM CLERK MICHIGAN, BRUNER. YES COMMISSIONER. MCDONALD YES. FRESHMAN MEYER? YES NICE MAYOR MATHESON. YES. MANIC MAYOR CLARKE. YES. ITEM NUMBER TWO. COMMISSIONER MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I PULLED THIS JUST TO, UM JUST TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR MY PREVIOUS SERVING BOARD APPOINTMENT, MR. CAMPBELL RICH, UM MR RICH WAS FORCED ON THE BOARD. I WAS VERY PROUD TO HAVE HIM THERE. AND I WAS SORRY WHEN HE TENDERED HIS RESIGNATION DO AND NO OTHER. FOR NO OTHER REASON OTHER THAN JUST HIS OWN
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RFP #2021-200; DESIGN OF GUY DAVIS PARK (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 03-2021; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA REQUESTS AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE FOR RFP #2021-200, DESIGN OF GUY DAVIS COMMUNITY PARK IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOP RANKED FIRM, CALVIN, GIORDANO & ASSOCIATES, INC. OF PORT SAINT LUCIE, FLORIDA PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]SAFETY WITH COVE ID, NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE WE'RE UNABLE TONTO TO DO VIRTUAL MEETINGS. HE WAS UNABLE TO CONTINUE SERVING IN HIS FOE CAPACITY SO BUT HAVE NO LESS FAITH IN MY NEW PERSPECTIVE APPOINTMENT SHOULD YOU RATIFY THIS EVENING, MISS JACKIE? BYE, TALLEY, CLOSE FRIEND AND CONFIDANTE. AH, WONDERFUL, VISIONARY, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. AND ALSO A FORCE IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK SHE'LL DO A VERY GOOD JOB HELPING STEER THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR RICH AND TO THANK HIS VITALITY FOR THROWING HER HAT IN THE RING AND VOLUNTEERING AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING HER SERVE. THANK YOU IS YOUR EMOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF. IN THE SACK. YOU VITALITY TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. SECONDED SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. UM. CITY CLERK. YOU COULD BE IN ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY OKAY, DID PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH OKAY, THANK YOU. I PULLED ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE DESIGN OF GUY DAVIS PARK. WHICH IS, UM.
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WE HAVE, LIKE SEVERAL NAMES. GUY DAVIS PARK 10TH STREET. RECREATION CENTER. UM SO. CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANTED TO PULL THAT SO THAT YOU COULD EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THE PART DESIGN AND WHAT WILL FLOW OVER INTO FUTURE TIMES FOR BUDGET PURPOSES. YES, MA'AM. AS SOON AS THE ATTORNEY READS THE RESOLUTION SORRY, SORRY. PLEASE READ IT.RESOLUTION NUMBER 03-2 OLD TO WANT A RESOLUTION, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. BUSTING AUTHORIZATION TO NEGOTIATE FOR RFP NUMBER 2021-2 DESIGN OF GUIDE DAVIS COMMUNITY PARK IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOP RATING FIRM, CALVIN GIORDANO AND ASSOCIATES ANKLE PORTENT LUCIE, FLORIDA. WRITING AN EFFECTIVE PEYTON FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THIS CITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE TOP RANK FIRM. UM, AS YOU'LL SEE, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE RESOLUTION AND THE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE AROUND THE SCOPE AND AROUND, UM THEY'RE PRICING COSTS. ALSO PLAN TO APPROACH THEM ABOUT A PHASED APPROACH. WHERE WE'LL ASK FOR DESIGN CONCEPT AND ENGINEERS PROBABLE COST AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. THAT POINT. OR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO PAY FOR THAT FROM CURRENT FUND BALANCE FROM THE SIERRA. AND THEN WITH THAT, IF ACCEPTED BY THE COMMISSION, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH FINANCING OPTIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THEME THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY WHEN IT WENT OUT ON THE R A. P WAS FOR BASEBALL FIELDS, BUT AS TIME HAS GONE ON, AND SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT BASEBALL FIELDS AND HAVING TOO MANY BASEBALL FIELDS AND INPUT FROM THE 10TH STREET STAFF WHO ADVISED THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED MULTI PLAYFIELD LIKE THE LIKE THE FOOTBALL FIELD THAT THEY CAN DO. LACROSSE AND SOCCER AND FOOTBALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE HIGH DEMAND FIELD THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT THIS ARE. HE WENT OUT FOR. UM AS WITH ANY COMPANY, THE SENATORS ALL SUBMITTED VERY NICE PACKAGES. BUT THOSE AIR SALES PITCH PACKAGES SO THE WHAT THEY PITCHED WAS VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL. THE ONE THE COMPANY THAT WAS PICKED, BUT THERE ARE THINGS IN THERE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR THEM NOT TO HAVE IN THE SCOPE. FOR INSTANCE, A SKATEBOARD PARK WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING I'D WON IN THE END THE PARTICULAR IN THE SCOPE DUE TO SOME LIABILITY. I SEE MR MCDONNELL ARE COMMISSIONER MCDONALD RAISING HIS HAND OVER THERE WITH A QUESTION? MIRROR YES, SIR. ACTUALLY I HAD CONSIDERED PULLING, DECIDED BY SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME TALKING TO PIN ALL ABOUT IT SO BUT SINCE IT IS FULL OF JUST BRING UP A COUPLE POINTS THAT. ONE OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST. ENSURE THAT WHEN WE'RE LIKE WE'RE NEGOTIATING THE SCOPE OF WORK IS THAT WE TAKE A COUPLE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION NOT ONLY THE COST OF NOT ONLY A FACED FACED CONSTRUCTION, APPROACH HER FACE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION APPROACH, BUT ALSO IN APPROACH THAT THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE COST. BUT COST THE MAINTENANCE AS WELL. SO WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE PARK ONCE IT'S BUILT, THEA OTHER THING IS MAKING SURE THAT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, WE LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS FOR ENTRY ACCESS, NOT JUST FROM 10TH STREET BUT ALSO FRO. UNTIL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT IN AND THEN THEN ONE LAST THING FIRST LOOKING AT IS THE IS THE RUNNING TRACK. UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A REGULATION SIZE OR SOMETHING. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THAT COULD BE CORRECTED WITHOUT TEARING THE WHOLE THING APART. YOU KNOW, AND REPLACING IT THE WHOLE THING. UM TO BE NICE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A REGULATION TRAFFIC. WE'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT TRACK, BUT THE BIG THING IS, I WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE NAIL DOWN THE MAINTENANCE.
UH CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WILL. LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES. I KNOW THIS COMPANY IS REALLY BIG ON USING AH ARTIFICIAL TURF. THEY HAVE DONE THOSE IN SEVERAL CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THE REST OF OUR FIELDS THEY'RE ALL GRASS. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY NEW EQUIPMENT TO MAINTAIN THE ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THEN WE'D BE HAVING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAINTENANCE OF THE ALONE ON. I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON ARTIFICIAL TURF ABOUT 34 YEARS AGO, WHEN WE WERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS A NOP SHIN AND I LIKE I LOVE THE IDEA THE ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE YOU COULD DO SOFTBALL BASEBALL IF YOU COULD TAKE IT. YOU CAN TAKE A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND DO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING WITH IT. ARTIFICIAL TURF. BUT THERE IS YOU DON'T HAVE THE GRASS CUTTING MAINTENANCE. YOU DO HAVE THE COST OF REPLACING THE TURF EVERY 10 YEARS. YEAH AND YOU ALSO HAVE MACHINES THAT HAVE TOW POUND THE BEADS BACK IN AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH IT. SO THERE IS THERE SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT. THERE'S ALSO EQUIPPED PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALIZE IS THAT YOU CAN'T USE REGULAR CLEATS ON THOSE FIELDS SO KIDS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO
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HAVE TWO PAIRS OF CLEATS ONES IF THEY'RE ON THE GRASS FIELD THAT DAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE OTHER GRASS FIELDS. AND ONE FOR THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, SO IT'S IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. WE'LL TELL YOU THAT IN THE R A. P. AND SO WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED IS THE ENTRANCE OFF OF THE DIXIE HIGHWAY SIDE, WITH SOME PARKING IN A FESTIVAL AREA MIXED INTO THE PARKING LOT THERE. UM THERE'S THE MULTI PLAYER FIELD AND THEN ON DAY ENHANCED PLAYGROUND, KEEPING THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT BUT ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. AND SOME. COVERING ON THE GROUND, SO IT'S NOT SAND. IT WOULD BE LIKE THE ARTIFICIAL MATERIAL FOR THE FOR THE PLAYGROUND COVERING A, UM, FESTIVAL TYPE AREA WITH UNDULATING STAGE JUST LIKE SAYING THAT WORD BECAUSE IN THEIR POISON THEIR PLAN, UM, STAGE AREA OVER THERE AS WELL AND SOME NEW BATHROOMS OVER ON THAT SIDE OF THE APART FACILITY. UNDERSTAND NATURE STUFF MIXED IN THERE LIKE NATURE WALKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. UNCLE HEADED MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM THREE. LET ME JUST MAKE THAT THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SECOND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. SO YES.SO I HAD PULLED IT BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE 10TH STREET FOR A LONG TIME. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE BASKETBALL. UM THAT'S MEAN WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH? OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE MAYBE 30 DAYS 45 DAYS. MILTON PROBABLY HAS A BETTER TIME LINE. YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THAT PART BEING WORKED ON. AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS IS COMING THROUGH. UM WHAT IS THE TIME LINE TWO. TO FIRM UP THINGS WITH THESE GUYS. AND WOULD YOU REQUIRE WOULD REQUIRE HAVING SOME MORE INPUT FROM ANY RESIDENTS OR EX OFFICIAL SMALL KEY GROUP OF PEOPLE TO TRY TOE. DELETE SOME THINGS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT OR NO SKATEBOARD OR SO I'M HOPING TO HAVE STAFF PUSHED THIS THESE MEETINGS ONCE YOU GUYS APPROVE IT QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN BE UP. BE BACK TO YOU WITHIN 60 DAYS. AND THEN THERE IS A REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE, UM, CONTRACT THAT WE DO WITH THEM FOR THEM TO DO PUBLIC MEETINGS. I CAN'T DO WE DO TO MEETINGS TO MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC. THE MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC, OKAY, AND YOU KNOW THAT I'M TRYING TO WORK ON MY SURVEY, AND I'M GONNA BE SENDING OUT SOMETHING. TWO PEOPLE JUST EVEN ASKED THEM TO GIVE ME SOME IDEAS. TOE. FINALIZED MY SERVICE. I'M GOING TO BE CONTACTING THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS IT'S COMING UP, TOO. SO THAT WOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY TO PUT SOME INPUT ON RIGHT AWAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYTHING FROM THE. FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS MATTER. PUBLIC, OKAY? NAME'S KYLE. OH SING GET REFERENCE TO THE PARK THERE. 10 STORY, REX HONOR. I DON'T KNOW THE FULL PROPOSAL. BUT IF THEY CAN LOOK INTO SELF WAIT, JIM SETS THAT USE YOUR OWN BODY WEIGHT. WORKOUT THEY'RE PRETTY COMMON IN PORT ST LUCIE, WHERE I LIVE THAT MOST OF THE CITY PARKS THERE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. WELLNESS AND THESE ARE OUTDOOR THINGS. THEY'RE MADE FOR THE OUTDOOR AND THEY USE YOUR OWN BODY WEIGHT. I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ONES, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY NICE. HAVE HIM IN MIAMI AS WELL, THERE'S BEEN PARKED OF THEIR PATIENTS AT THE STATION. THEY USE YOUR OWN BODY WEIGHT, EITHER DO LEG SQUATS OR CHEST PRESSES, JUST DIFFERENT STUFF AND JUST GOOD FOR WELLNESS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS YOUR RECOGNIZE, MISS SOME MIKE BRIGHT MCBRIDE FROM FLAMINGO AVENUE TWEET ABOUT THE BUILDING THE 10TH STREET REC CENTER BUILDING. DIDN'T SAY. I MEAN, JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT IN THE CONDITION. IT IS CURRENTLY. YES, IT'S NOT ON THE SCOPE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND YOU DO REALIZE HOW COLD AND IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. I KNOW IT WAS. I KNOW IT WAS COMPLETELY GUTTED AND REMODELED. MUCH SURE WHAT 15 YEARS AGO. I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THEY'RE STILL DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE GOING ON ABOUT THE GYMNASIUM OVER OFF OF SEVENTH STREET HIM, OKAY? ON DSA. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE VARIABLES THAT PUT THAT WE NEED TO HASH OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BUILDING ASPECT BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BRAND NEW GYMNASIUM OVER OFF THE SEVENTH STREET, THAT COULD BE A AFTER SCHOOL COMPETITORS FOR US, AND THEN THERE MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE CURRENT FACILITY. IT'S THERE, SO THERE'S OTHER. ACTIONS AND PLAY BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO BEFORE YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THE CURRENT BUILDING. AT SOME POINT WHETHER THE BUILDING IS REMODELED OR ENHANCED, OR WHATEVER THAT WILL BE DONE. THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN. IT'S JUST NOT PART OF THIS FIRST PHASE. AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AND FOR THE CHILDREN, BUT YOU ALSO
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HAVE THE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND. IT REALLY? WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN, AND I MEAN I MEAN, DO THE CHILDREN ARE THERE WE MOVE WHEREVER WE HAVE TO MOVE TO WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE. WE MOVED BACK IN THE ROOM OR USUALLY AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WHICH WE DON'T MIND. NO, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MY FILM. SR. UH, IT'S JUST WE'VE BEEN WAITING. AND IF ANYONE KNOWS ME BEEN WAITING, AND THAT IN MANURE HELL ARE YOU KEEPING THE SELFISH BASEBALL FIELDS THEN? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES AS OF NOW, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RESPECT BRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE A COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? WOULD YOU COME UP, MISS? DID YOU? YOU CAN COME UP WHEN YOU CAN FILL OUT THE FORM. YOUR RECOGNIZE, MISS? UM. FRANKLY I WONDER HOW BREAK THE AND MY QUESTION IS JUST SIMPLE. BUT YEARS AGO THERE WAS A SHRED. THAT WAS, UM FORMULATED FOR ME, STUART AND AHEAD THE. DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS. IS JUST BEING DONE, ACCORDING TO THE CHARETTE, OR IS IT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT POINT? SO IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, SHE WROTE WAS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DIDN'T SEE ANY SPECIFIC TO THE 10TH STREET CENTER AND CHARETTE. THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FROM PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS. UM PLANS FOR THE 10TH STREET CENTER. ONE OF THEM REMEMBER BEFORE LEGISLATOR TRYING TO GET A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF FOR BASEBALL FIELDS OVER THERE. THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT PLANS OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN CHANGED ON BUT NOW THIS IS A NEW GENERATION OF THAT PLAN, BUT I DON'T RECALL THE 10 STRAIGHT CENTER SPECIFICALLY BEING IN THE CHARETTE. THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO RECALL BEING IN THERE. YES, THAT WAS THE 2003 SURE IT AND THEN SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD SOME POTENTIAL PLANS, WHICH LED TO THIS THIS ACTUAL THING. NOW I THINK MY SUIT MIKE HOUSTON HAD DONE SOME THINGS FOR US INFORMALLY TO LET US START CONSIDERING SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO BE DOING. 1/10 STREET, BUT THOSE WERE NOT ADOPTED PLANS OVER IDEAS AND THOSE AIR ALSO TO HELP MR CROSS KEY. AND HIS GROUP WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON TRYING TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE LEGISLATOR TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME FUNDS FOR THE TURF FROM THE GRASS, AND THOSE ARE ALL A PART OF DISCUSSIONS AND I HAVE IN MIND TO SEND AND ASKED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IF[4.
2020 UPDATED MARTIN COUNTY UNIFIED LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 09-2021; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO ADOPT THE 2020 UPDATED MARTIN COUNTY UNIFIED LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN AS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FOR INCLUSION IN THE STATEWIDE HAZARD MITIGATION STRATEGY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]THEY KNOW OR IF THEY WANT TO PLEASE CONTACT MYSELF. THE CITY MANAGER ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ANY OF OUR STAFF. PLEASE LET US KNOW. AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THIS THING. AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET THE PAPERWORK FOR THIS FIRM IN PORT ST LUCIE AND WHAT THEY SUBMITTED AND WHAT THE SELECTION COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT, AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO GO THROUGH WITH A PLAN FOR 40 STEWARDS. SO, UM. THAT'S THAT. I THINK THAT, UM. DOES THAT COVER THE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS? OH, SORRY. UM. YES UM, I THINK, UM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS FULLY EXPLAINED, AND THE STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH CITY MANAGER SO WE HAVE RESOLUTION OLD THREE. 20 TO 1. DID WE HAVE EMOTION OF THE SECOND? YES. OKAY SO, UM, CITY CLERK. NICE MAYOR MATHESON. YES COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES COMMISSIONER MEYER? YES MAYOR CLARKE? YES? OKAY? OH, RIGHT, SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WAS I PULLED THAT ONE ALSO. TO ASK. IT'S REGARDED RESOLUTION ALL 9 2021 IF THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD READ THE RESOLUTION, AND THEN I'LL PULLS MY REASON FOR PULLING THIS. RESOLUTION NUMBER 09 2021 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO ADOPT THE 2020 UPDATED MARTIN COUNTY UNIFIED LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN. THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FOR INCLUSION IN THE STATEWIDE HAZARD MITIGATION STRATEGY, WRITING AN EFFECTIVE DATING FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SO I SAID THE MANAGER TO EXPLAIN ABOUT THIS, UM. ELLA MISS CHARGE OF PLAN JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. THIS IS THE LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY UPDATE. IT'S UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
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THIS CAME TO US THROUGH THE COUNTIES IN HIM, DIRECTOR AND OUR CAPTAIN DEREK OR KADO, OUR CITY AND DIRECTOR. UM THE COUNTY, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MUNICIPALITIES PUTS TOGETHER THIS PLAN OR ANY UPDATES EVERY FIVE YEARS. THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE[7.
ACKNOLWEDGE FDOT FOR BRIDGE WORK (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 17-2021; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA THANKING THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) DISTRICT FOUR SECRETARY FOR HIS PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE REPAIRS; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]WHO ACCEPTED THE ANY CHANGES THAT WERE REQUIRED ARE DONE BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOLKS.
AND THEN ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY. UM WE DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT IT, BUT IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADOPT THE PLAN. IT HELPS US ON OUR FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATIONS. AND WEAKEN. SCORE EXTRA POINTS OR NOT GET THOSE POINTS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY'S LITIGATE OUR LOCAL MITIGATION STRATEGY PLAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CITY MANAGER DOES ANY OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THE 2020 UPDATED MARTIN COUNTY UNIFIED LOCAL MITIGATION SURGE OF PLAN, MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. GET.
THERE'S BEEN EMOTION IN A SECOND. UM ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR CLARK, MR. CITY ATTORNEY. CAN WE DO ALL IN FAVOR? DO WE NEED TONTO? HAVE THE CLERK'S NO MONEY. AND SO YOU CAN DO IT IS WHATEVER YOUR DISCUSSION. IT'S JUST A RESOLUTION ADOPTING IT COULD AGREE ALL IN FAVOR. HI HI.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WERE THE END OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'RE INTO THE COMMISSION ACTION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR THE DEAL T FOR THE BRIDGEWORK RESOLUTION NUMBER 17 DAYS 2021 CITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 17 DAYS 2021 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, THANKING THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AFTER DISTRICT FOR SECRETARY FOR HIS PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE REPAIRS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YES, SIR. IF I MAY I HAD ASKED CITY MANAGER TO ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, AS AT THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, YOU MAY RECALL OUR OUR DELEGATION. PROVED CALLED FOR A SIMILAR RESOLUTION VOTED ON A SIMILAR RESOLUTION THINKING NOT ONLY SECRETARY O'REILLY BUT ALSO THIS'D BE OF STUART. UM. AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL. A SWELL AS F DOT DISTRICT COURT STAFF FOR WORKING TOGETHER, TOLO. EXPEDITIOUSLY REPAIR. THE BRIDGE AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE SUGGESTION. IF POSSIBLE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE IN THE RESOLUTION. IF WE MIGHT CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTATIVE OVER DOOR FROM SENATOR HEREL AS THEY WERE BOTH INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND ASSISTED WITH THE ORGANIZATION IN THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION WELL AS IF WE COULD TO SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THE F THAT DISTRICT FOR STAFF AS WELL AS OUR STAFF AND PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL. FINE WITH ME. OKAY SO THAT WOULD GO UNDER SEPARATE. WHEREAS, UM COLUMNS AND YOU'LL WORK WITH SOME WILL IT IF YOU NEED ME TO GIVE THE LANGUAGE GIVE THE LANGUAGE I WOULD ASK THAT IT NOT BE IN THE WHEREAS BUT PERHAPS SECTION I THINK SECTION ONE BIGGER PARTNER WITH ME HERE, PULL IT UP QUICKLY. UM SECTION ONE CALLS OUT, SECRETARY O'REILLY.
SPECIFICALLY PERHAPS WE COULD SAY, AND STAFF UM AND THEN SECTION TO, ACKNOWLEDGES THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY DISTRICT FOUR. PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE STAFF IN THERE. PERHAPS WE COULD ADD SECTION THREE. AMEND SECTION THREE TO BE SECTION FOR A NEW SECTION THREE WOULD SAY THE CITY COMMISSION HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGES AND THANKS, STATE REPRESENTATIVE STATE SENATOR GALE HAROLD, STATE REPRESENTATIVE TOBY OVER DOOR AND THANKS THEM FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND COMMUNICATION TO OUR PUBLIC. AND UH, WHERE WE COULD PUT CITY STAFF AND PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, PERHAPS IN SECTION ONE OR TWO. WELL WE'LL WORK ON REWRITING WELL TO REWRITE ON THE FLOOR. OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE'S WAS EMOTION, AND THE SECOND IS A CORRECT. NO, I'M WELL. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL WITH THAT WITH THOSE UM AND IT'S IF SOMEBODY WILL SECOND. OF A SECOND. YOUR SECOND. I DID. OKAY. OK IS THERE ANOTHER COMMENT ON RESOLUTION NUMBER? 17 2021 IN THERE? YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THEY ARE KEEPING A VERY BRIEF BUT JERRY O'REILLY, SECRETARY OF REGION FOR SECRETARY OF D O T. GABY, AMAZING PRESENTATION THIS MORNING. HE EXTRAORDINARY
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EFFORTS THAT WENT THROUGH TO AH, GET THE BRIDGE BACK UP AND SAFE AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID THEY GET THE BRIDGE DONE QUICKLY AND GETTING IT SAFE. BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF REASSURING THE PUBLIC THAT THE BRIDGE IS SAFE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT. GOING OVER THE BRIDGE IN THE FUTURE, AND I WOULD SAY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF CARS HAVE SEEN OTTO LATELY. NOBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT IT, SO THEY'VE GOT A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. YES ANY OTHER COMMENTS COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR YEAH, I JUST LIKE TO TOUCH ON WHAT COMMISSION? MCDONALD SAID ABOUT THE PRESENTATION. WAY DID HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HEARING SECRETARY RILEY SPEAK AND DEBRIEF US ON WHAT HAPPENED AND.THE SPEED OF THEIR RESPONSE WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY, YOU KNOW. SURPASSED EVEN THEIR HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF GETTING THE BRIDGE COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT THAT END OF FEBRUARY SOME OF THEIR FIRST ESTIMATE. UM. THE TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED WITH HOW THEY BUILD SEGMENT AND BRIDGES WHEN THAT ONE WAS BUILT OVER 20 YEARS AGO, TWO NOW AN ATTENDANT DID TOTALLY BREAK. IN THAT BRIDGE, YOU KNOW? THANKFULLY AGAIN, NO NO MAJOR CATASTROPHE. NO ONE WAS HURT. THAT BRIDGE IS COMPLETELY SEALED. THEY'RE GOING TO BE UPDATING THEIR INSPECTION PROCESS THAT TENDONS WERE REPLACED USING THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY. I HAD TO FIX THE BRIDGE AND THE WAY BRIDGES ARE BUILT NOWADAYS. ANDARE ARE OTHER SURROUNDING BRIDGES, A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS FOR THE SECRETARY. WHERE CAN WE BE? NO ASSURED THAT OUR OTHER SURROUNDING SEGMENT AND BRIDGES. SAFE FOR PUBLIC USE ON TOTO! QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THAT THEY ARE. THEY WOULDN'T BE OPEN. THEY WEREN'T OBVIOUSLY BUT. IT WAS.
AH, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND THEIR RESPONSE. WAS UNPRECEDENTED. REALLY? FOR WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN OUR BACKYARD AND HOW FAST THEY HANDLED IT. AND AGAIN. THANK YOU, TOO.
STUART PD, AND OUR CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW FOR WORKING WITH F DOT AND HANDLING IN SUCH A WAY THAT THAT DID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I MUST SAY THAT, UM. IN IN LIGHT OF.
EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN 2020. UM. AND ALSO, OF COURSE, THE PANDEMIC. IT WAS JUST SIMPLY ASTOUNDING THAT ON THE DAY WHEN IT HAPPENED SCENE YOU KNOW? WHAT IS IT CNN AND WE SEE JUST KNEW IT WENT ALL OVER AND I PEOPLE WERE CALLING. WONDERING OF STUART WAS FALLEN
[8.
AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS - RESIDENTIAL INFILL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT (RC):
ORDINANCE No. 2453-2020; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 6.03.00. OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ENTITLED "STORMWATER MANAGEMENT" OF CHAPTER VI ENTITLED “ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS” IN RESPECT OF STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX INFILL DEVELOPMENT; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]UNDER. AND SO IT WAS JUST A MAJOR MAJOR THING. YOU KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENED LIKE COMMIT, VICE MAYOR SAID IN OUR BACKYARD AND RIGHT HERE IN FRONT ROAD TO CITY HALL AND TO KNOW THAT THE DLT HAS GONE THROUGH THIS AND WORKED ON IT VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND HANDLED THE PUBLIC VERY WELL AND HAS TAKEN CARE OF THAT. FEAR FACTOR AND PEOPLE ARE BACK USING THE BRIDGE. UH MUCH MUCH APPRECIATION AND I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE SOMME RESOLUTION GOING FORWARD. WITH THE AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY. FORMER MAYOR MYER COMMISSIONER MEYER. AND SO AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION WITH ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ON THIS RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING THE F DOT FOR THEIR BRIDGEWORK. HERE IN NONE, AND THERE'S NO MONEY INVOLVED IN THERE. NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS RIGHT RESIDENTIAL INFIELD STORM WATER MANAGEMENT RESOLUTION 24 53-2020. ATTORNEY. HIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 53 DAYS 2020 AND SECOND READING IN ORDER TO THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 6.3 POINT O OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND TITLED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT OF CHAPTER SIX, ENTITLED ON SITE AND I'VE SAVED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN RESPECT OF STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX INFILL DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY WRITING CODIFICATION READY FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU. UM, ALREADY CHANGES ON THIS OR
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DISTANCE THE LAST RATING. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY, THANKS. UM MAY O'CLOCK AND CITY COMMISSION JUST FOR A PIECE OF HOUSE KEEPING INITIALLY IT'S NOW 24 53 2021 IF COMMISSION. WE CALL THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO THEM IN OCTOBER. 2020 THERE WAS A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS AROUND IT. IT DID GET APPROVAL ON FIRST READING. STAFF LOOK TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.AND ATTEMPTED TO SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS WHERE SINGLE FAMILY OR DO PLATES PRESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT MET CERTAIN CRITERIA. AND ALSO LOOKED AT THE COSTS INVOLVED IN HAVING TO DO THAT, AS YOU ARE AWARE WE DO FACE WHEN WE HAVE THESE NEW FORMS OF DEVELOPMENT IN FULL SITUATIONS. WE DO FACE POTENTIAL FLOODING OF EXISTING OLDER HOUSES IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THIS ORDINANCE IS AN ATTEMPT TO ALLEVIATE THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY START. AND PREVENT NEIGHBOR. COMPLAINTS. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEARD ABOUT WAS THE COST OF PROVIDING CERTAIN THINGS AND HAVING DOCUMENTS REVIEWED. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE CITY'S BUILDING OFFICIAL ON THE COST OF REVIEWING ENGINEERING PLANS OR GRATING PLANS IN THE CITY WILL BE MET BY THE PERMIT FEES. AND SO THAT WOULD BE NO COST TO ANY APPLICANT THAT CAME IN AND HAD TO MEET THESE CRITERIA. CRITERIA HAVE BEEN SIMPLIFIED.
UM. LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF FILLING BROUGHT INTO LOTS TO BE MINIMUM, LOOKING AT STEM WALL OR OTHER FORMS OF FOUNDATIONS. THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
THE OWNER AND DEVELOPERS ALSO ASKED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT INCREASE OFFSITE FLOODING. SPECIFICALLY TO OFF TWO PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING. ON OUR WATERFRONT TO LOOK AT A BUFFET SHORELINE SOLUTION. IF WE DO HAVE INFILL LOTS IN THOSE LOCATIONS. SO, UH, FAIRLY SIMPLE CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE, BUT ONE THAT WE HOPE WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE. CONSEQUENCES OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS. BASED ON THAT STUFF. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND DROPPED THIS ON SECOND. OKAY THANK YOU. EYES THE BOARD SATISFIED WITH CHANGE AND WAS EXPLAINED. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM MAYOR, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL WITH FOR DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MR FREEMAN, JUST TO CLARIFY ON, UM I APPRECIATE STAFFS. UH, BUT IT'S UM TO ADDRESS OUR COMMENTS. FROM THE LAST TO FIRST READING JUST TO BE CLEAR THE YOU SAID THAT THE REVIEW BY CITIES CONSULTANT.
OUR CONSULTANT RECORD RIGHT NOW IS KIM LEE HORN FOR WOULD BE FOR ENGINEERING, A NUMBER OF CONSULTANTS, AND THIS WON'T BE AT ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT WELL, IT'S ALL COVERED BY THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS REVIEW IS REQUIRED. WE DO REVIEWING HOUSES WITH PUBLIC WORKS. OKAY IF THEY FEEL THE EXTERNAL REVIEW IS REQUIRED. AND WE WOULD SEND OUT TO EXTERNAL CONSULTANT AND THAT WOULD BE A NO COST TO THE APPLICANT OF THAT NO BUT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO US. REALLY I MEAN, IT'S YOU SAY THAT IT'S COVERED BY THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE. OKAY? AND HAVE WE HAD. REACHED OUT TO OUR CONSULTANT, ENGINEERS JUST TOL. GOT SOME PRELIMINARY COST NUMBERS, AND THERE'S GOT TO BE IN THE RANGE THAT SIGNIFICANT, VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STUFF ALREADY QUESTIONS AT THE BOARD ON THIS COMMISSION. I THEM. OKAY HERE IN NO QUESTIONS, OR THEN A QUESTIONS BY THE PUBLIC. ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AMENDMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. PRESIDENTIAL INFIELD STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. CARDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND THERE NO QUESTIONS. MADAM MAYOR, CAN I ASK ONE MORE? YES SIR. THANK YOU. I KNOW THIS IS LIMITED TO, UM A BEAUTY PROCESS WOULD HAVE ITS OWN RULES. THIS IS, I THINK, APPROPRIATELY TAILORED TO SMALL, SINGLE FAMILY. BRETT
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DUPLEX, RESIDENTIAL SMALL BUILDERS HELP ADDRESS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. HOW ABOUT COMMERCIAL? IS THAT ALREADY COMPLETELY COVERED A SMALL SINGLE COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WERE TO GO UP? WE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSING THAT. THIS JUST DEALS WITH RESIDENTIAL OKAY STUFF TO EXAMINE THE. PROCESS FOR COMMERCIAL BUILD ON WE COULD DO THAT, BUT WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE IN THE CITY IS. FAIRLY COMPLEX COMMERCIAL BUILD WITH WITH ENGINEERED SITE PLANS, AND THERE'S A REVIEW DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS SO NORMALLY THE CITY WOULD BE REQUESTING QUITE SIGNIFICANT STORM WATER ANALYSIS TO BE DONE AT THAT STAGE. UM SO WE. WAS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT. IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE, IMPRESSIVELY COMMERCIAL HAS A REGULATION TO MAINTAIN ITS STORM WATER ON SITE, SO EVEN IF STRAIGHT ZONING, THE[9. TOBACCO AND ELECTRONIC NICOTINE REGULATION (RC):
ORDINANCE No. 2459-2021; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART AMENDING ARTICLE VII; SECTION 12-163 THROUGH 12-172 RELATING TO THE SALE AND USE OF NICOTINE DELIVERY DEVICES AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND A CONFLICTS CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]COMMERCIAL'S COMING IN WITH A STORMWATER PLAN, WHERE IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME DOESN'T GENERALLY HAVE A STORM ORDER PLAN UNTIL THIS ORDINANCE. BUT IF IT'S A IF IT'S A LIGHT COMMERCIAL USE WITHIN A MIXED USE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, THE ZONING THAT WOULD INCLUDE LET'S SAY, LIKE OUR THREE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE SOME LIGHT, LIGHT, LIMITED COMMERCIAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW. IF WE SHOULD. I THINK I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK IN TERMS OF WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A MORE MIXED USE. USE OF COMMERCIAL AREAS WHICH I HOPE WE ARE I'M HOPEFULLY WITH SMALLER UNITS ON USING THAT SORT OF TRANSITION TO THAT SIZE OF UNITS. AND THE THING WE WOULD DO, WE SHOULD LOOK, IT. WE ADDRESS THOSE? THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT. ADDRESSING ANY SMALL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, YEAH. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID NOT HEAR ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN I ASKED FOR COMMENTS, AND SO WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT THERE NO FURTHER COMMENTS. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. AND THIS, SAYS ROLL CALL. NATIONAL MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER MEYER YES, VICE MAYOR MATHESON. YES COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES. MAYOR CLARKE? YES? ITEM NUMBER NINE FOR SECOND READING THE TOBACCO AND ELECTRONIC NICOTINE REGULATION ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 59 2021 CITY ATTORNEY DISCORDANCE NUMBER 24 59 DAYS 2021 IN ORDER TO THE CITY OF STUART, AMENDING ARTICLE SEVEN SECTIONS. 12 BEST 1 63 THROUGH 12-1 72. RELATING TO THE SALE AND USE OF NICOTINE DELIVERY DEVICES AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE OF CONFLICTS. BUZZ PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THIS'D OBVIOUSLY SECOND READING. ON FIRST READING. I HAD PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH THE REDLINED VERSION. I HAVE SIMPLY HAD ADOPTED THE COUNTY ORDINANCE AND APPLIED IT TO THE TOBACCO ORDNANCE THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD IN PLACE. SO SOME OF IT WAS DUPLICATIVE AND ETCETERA, BUT AFTER FIRST READING WHEN THERE WAS NO OBJECTIONS. I HAD RYAN GO AHEAD. AND ADOPT. ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN SET FORTH IN THE RED LINE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A RED LINE VERSION IN THIS ATTACHMENT OF THE ORDINANCE. I DID NOT KNOW THAT TODAY OUR PHONES WOULD BLOW UP IN E MAILS WITH FLUTTER, OR I WOULD HAVE GLADLY PROVIDED YOU WITH THE RED LINE VERSION. I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT. AS RECENTLY AS 6 35 THIS EVENING. RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM KIM NASH IT QUICK, DOC GOT POWER. AND SHE SAID. DELAY YOUR VOTE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR LICENSING, BUT IT COULD BE A SIMPLE IS A BOX THEY CHECK ON THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE. I EMAILED HER BACK AND ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED ME TO ASK YOU FOR A CONTINUANCE. UNFORTUNATELY SHE HASN'T RESPONDED YET. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION THAT TO YOU. AS IT RELATES TO A BOX YOU CHECK ON THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE, ACCORDING TO JOEY, AND FINANCE. IT'S NOT THAT EASY. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT THAT CHANGED THE LANGUAGE ON IT.
SECONDLY IT'S REGULATED BY THE STATE AND WE CAN'T ADD VAPE STORES. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, MIKE, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT I KNOW? YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH TERRAN OVER IT, UH, THE COUNTY REGARDING HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE CREATING A WHOLE NEW LICENSING. I HAVEN'T DAVID, SO I'M SORRY. BUT FIRST I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT THE IDENTICAL ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY. BEFORE THERE WAS SOME FUSION ABOUT THAT. MOST OF IT IS CENTRIC, TOO. THERE IS EXCEPT FOR THE LICENSING COMPONENT THAT WE HAD REMOVED.
PART OF IT IS AROUND THE FACT THAT WE, YOU KNOW THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT THAT WE CURRENTLY COLLECT IS NOT NECESSARY, A LICENSE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS OF REMOVING SOMEONE'S ABILITY OR REMOVING THEIR LICENSE FOR A VIOLATION OF SORTS. AND THEIR ORDINANCE.
THEY HAVE BOTH THE SUSPENSION OF THE LICENSE AS WELL AS A FINE AND THERE'S I KNOW I'VE
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SPOKE ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A FINE DIRECTLY IN OURS RATHER THAN BEEN A LICENSED PER SE, WE WOULD HAVE IF WE WENT DOWN THE LICENSING ROUTE. IT. IT COULDN'T GO IN THE BOX. UM AS MISS NASH WAS PROPOSING, WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LICENSING A NEW LICENSING.PRODUCT OR FORMAT TO TRACK THOSE LICENSES AND SO FORTH JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
AND THEN IF. THEY VIOLATED IT. I GUESS THEY COULD STILL SELL THE OTHER WEARS THAT JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL WHAT THEY GOT THAT LICENSE FOR THE VAPOR OR THE TOBACCO PRODUCT.
MADAM THERE? YES, SIR. SO I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME TALKING WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE, TOO, INCLUDING MISS NASH, HER ACTUALLY, I GUESS HER SUPERVISOR. UH AFTER BERRY HUMMEL AND THEY SEE HEATHERINGTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER HEATHERINGTON AND.
THERE IS VERY MUCH A DESIRE BY THEM FOR A STABLE LICENSING COMPONENT. BUT AS I AS I'VE BEEN REALLY DIGGING INTO THE LICENSING COMPONENT THAT, UH, IT'S NOT PRACTICAL, BUT. I THINK THERE'S A WAY THAT THE GOAL FOR THEM WITH THE LICENSING IS TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE. AND. I THINK RATHER, THAT'S THE LICENSING IS SO DIFFICULT. I THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT COMPLIANCE. WITH A VERY STIFF PENALTIES NOW AND WE DO HAVE A PENALTY IN HERE. IT'S $500 PENALTY, BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD CREATE. FIRST DEFENSE PENALTY AND I'M GONNA SAY $250.5 DOLLARS $1000 EACH ONE AFTER THAT, PLUS, MIKE SAID. THERE'S WEATHER APPEARANCE FEE OF WHAT 350 MIKE 303 100. SO YOU COULD IF THEY GET VIOLATED, HAVE TO GO TO THE MAGISTRATE, EVEN THE FIRST DEFENSE LIKE YOU MENTIONED IF IT WAS 2 50 WOULD ACTUALLY BE 5 50 BECAUSE IT'S 2 50 PLUS COSTS OF 300. AND YOU TAKE A SMALL SOME OF THESE SMALL RETAILERS, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING MORE LIKELY TO BE UM. THE ONES OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THEY'RE NOT OR EVEN OR EVEN A LARGE RETAILERS SUCH A CHAIN GAS STATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE HAVING TO PAY. LINES BECAUSE OF EMPLOYEES. AND SO I THINK IF. FOR I THINK FOR NOW, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY IN THE FUTURE. WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF LICENSING, BUT I THINK.
THERE'S ONE THING IS ONE IS A WE WANT TO GET IT SO THAT IT'S AGAINST THE LAW FOR 20 UNDER 21, SO I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, AS IS WITH THE ADDITION OF. A CODE ENFORCEMENT FIND THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE OF 250 FOR THE FIRST DEFENSE 500 FOR THE 2ND 1000 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL A FENCE PLUS DE BUSTED THE APPEARANCE FEES. UM AND THAT BE. YOU'RE YOU'RE ALWAYS STRICTLY ENFORCED THOSE PENALTIES WHEN PEOPLE THAT CAUGHT BREAKING THE LAW SO I WANT TO HEAR YOU GUYS HIS THOUGHTS ON THAT BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION AND ONE OF US MAKES A MOTION ON THAT SO BEFORE YOU GO ON TO SOMETHING. I JUST WAS READING HERE. THE PENALTY SECTION AND SECTION A TALKS ABOUT $5 FINE. WE NEED TO MOVE THAT REMOVE THAT SECOND PART OF THAT, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT IMPRISONMENT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I LEFT THAT IN THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES FROM PRIOR TOBACCO CODE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE IMPRISONMENT CAME FROM AND HOW WE WOULD DO IT, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS THERE, I HADN'T BEEN DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD INTO THAT BE HONEST, BUT FORCE THAT PART BUT IT'S THERE. OH CITY ORDINANCE, VIOLATIONS CAN GO EITHER WAY, BUT ONCE YOU ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THE 60 DAYS IMPRISONMENT, YOU HAVE TO GO TO COUNTY COURT. YOU CAN'T GO BEFORE A MAGISTRATE. WHICH IS FINE THAT FOOD AND IT'S ON THE BOARD. IT'S A QUARTER ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT MADAM AARON AND COLLEAGUES THAT I THINK THIS CONFUSION AROSE TODAY BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW THE WAY THAT COUNTY WOULD HANDLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT. VERSUS OURS. OURS IS UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU KNOW OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT? HAS QUITE A BIT OF TEETH. I'M JUST HEARING THAT. I'VE GOT THE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE COULD IMPRISON HIM. FOR THESE VIOLATIONS CAN'T DO THAT. I KNOW AND I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT. BUT. I INTERPRET THIS AS WRITTEN. IT IS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BEST ROUTE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH WITH OUR DESIRED OUTCOME. WHICH IS TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FEDERAL LAW. PROHIBIT SALES OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO THOSE UNDER 21. AND NO. HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE STILL HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS
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WITH THIS A MONTH FROM NOW. WE MEET TWICE A MONTH. WE CAN COME UP HERE AND JUST THE ORDINANCE AND CHANGE IT IF WE LIKE. NOW WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I HAVE FAITH IN OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT, THAT THE REAL HESITATION AS IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY OUR STAFF. IS WHEN WE START, ADDING, AH LICENSING REQUIREMENT TO HIM, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY OF STEWARDESS WAS FULL OF SCHOOLS. THIS WOULD HAVE MAJOR, SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE NEAR SCHOOLS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO BE ESTABLISHED OR ALREADY ESTABLISHED. AND NO, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE. OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS AND I'M CONFIDENT. ESPECIALLY WITH THE MODIFICATIONS, COMMISSIONER MACDONALD SUGGESTED. THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL HAVE TEETH. AND IF IT DOESN'T I'M OPEN TO REVISITING. IF I COULD CHANGE INTO BY DOING IT THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE NOT FINDING THE BAD OPERATOR. WE'RE GOING TO BE FINDING THE LANDLORD AND THE LANDLORD IS GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THE BRUNT OF IT. AND THEY WILL EVICT THE BAD OPERATOR IF THEY START GETTING $1000 FINES.BECAUSE SOME GUYS MAKING THREE BUCKS OFF A PACK OF CIGARETTES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, UNDER THE LICENSING, I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO DO. BUT LET'S ASSUME FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION. THERE'S A BUSINESS ON THE EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. THAT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE, AND IT'S OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT IT'S RENTED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE STORE AND CONVENIENCE STORE SELLS CIGARETTES THREE TIMES AND LOSES THE LICENSE. LANDLORD EVICTS. THE CONVENIENCE STORE. DOES THAT MEAN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, THAT STORE CAN NO LONGER BE A CONVENIENCE STORE BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS NOT REVOKED ITS LICENSE AND THE LANDLORD THEN GETS THE BRUNT OF THAT, EVEN THOUGH THE LANDLORD WASN'T THE OPERATOR OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE. IT'S NOT THE LANDLORD THAT GETS THE BRUNT OF IT. IT IS THE OPERATOR AND ABC SALES INK GETS THE LICENSE REVOKING. INSTEAD THEY CHANGE IT TO C D E INK AND RE ISSUE THE LICENSE FOR $10 BECAUSE UNDER THE COUNTY ORDINANCE, IT SAYS IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ANYBODY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SELLING TOBACCO PRODUCTS. AND THEN THEY'RE BACK IN BUSINESS.
SO THE LICENSE JUST SEEMED REALLY COMPLICATED, BUT WE WANTED TO DO IS HAVE THE TEETH TO GO IN AND FIND SOMEBODY BRING HIM IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE AND CALL IT OUT. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM. WE ALSO HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT OUR THAT OUR LOCAL STORES AREN'T GOING TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE ANYWAY. AND AS COMMISSIONER MATHESON DEVICE MADE MAPS TO POINT IT OUT. IF THEY DO, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND REVISIT YEAH. SO MR MACDONALD QUESTION BACK DOWN. IS MISS MISS WASHER, UM, MASHES IT FOR THAT WOULD TURN YOUR NAME IS BUT SHE ASKING US TO TABLE THIS UNTIL SHE CAN PRESENT WITH US OR UNTIL SHE CAN HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT. COULD YOU CHECK PAUL? COULD YOU CHECK IT? THIS IS IT. WHAT SKIN WASHING NASH. OKAY SO THEY'RE OKAY. WE'RE STILL WITH THE BOARD DISCUSSION WITH US WITH THEM. UH YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE. YOU JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I INCLUDED THEM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD'VE, BUT I THINK THAT MY THE WAY THAT I WANT TO PROCEED IS TO A GET GET THE BALL PAST SO THAT HE ORDERED FASTER THAT WE'RE BANNING ANYONE UNDER 21 B. MAKING THE FINDS VERY STIFF AND SEE AVOIDING THE CONUNDRUM OF THE LICENSING ISSUE THAT STAFF YES. SAID THAT IT ISN'T GOING TO JUST WORK IS EASY AS A CHECK BOX AND WE AND I THINK I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MAN OR VICE MAYOR MATHESON THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW. WE WE OPERATE PRETTY SWIFTLY.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST BROUGHT THIS UP. I BROUGHT IT UP IN NOVEMBER. AND HERE IT IS. IN JANUARY.
WE'RE IN SECOND READING SO WE CAN COME BACK. MUCH SWIFTER THAN ACCOUNTING YOUR ESTATE. HE CAN SO WE CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM. DO SOME SORT OF LICENSING. IF WE FEEL THAT'S NECESSARY, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO STOP. MINERS PEOPLE UNDER 21 FROM BUYING CIGARETTES AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND THIS WAY, AT LEAST EFFECTIVELY, WE CAN HAVE THAT PORTION MOVIE GOD WHILE WE TRY TOE MORE SOME OTHER OPTION. OKAY THANK YOU.
IF YOU NEEDED ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENT ON THIS ORDINANCE AND THE CHANGES, MADAM CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. I HAVE A QUESTION OF WHAT WE SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER
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TO THIS BUT WHEN WE HAVE THE COMMENTS BY ZOOM AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S PERTINENT AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE PROBABLY PUT IN WRITING OURSELVES, DO WE, UM. WE TAKE FULL INFORMATION FROM THEM NAME ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER OR DO YOU? UM YOU JUST USED THE ZOOM INFORMATION WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR MINUTES, ACCARDO IT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE DEMANDED IN CARDS.HOW DID WE DO THAT? TO THE ATTORNEY HOME. THERE IS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEONE FILL OUT A CARD. OKAY SIMPLY IDENTIFYING WHO THEY ARE FOR THE RECORD SO THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO REVIEW IT LATER, TECHNICALLY, IF SOMEBODY CAME IN WE ASK HIM TO FELL THE CARD AND THEY SAID, NO, WE MUST ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK SO BY DOING IT ON ZOOM. IT'S SIMPLY WE GOT A MINUTE WHEN THEY SAY THEIR NAME. OKAY ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT. DO YOU USUALLY HAVE THEIR NAME THAT COMES UP ON THE SCREEN OR A SCREENING WHERE THEY ANNOUNCE IT BEFORE THEY TALK? OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. SO WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND I THEIR HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM, MR PAUL. WELL, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS STORE MEETING TONIGHT, COMMISSIONER HEATHERINGTON THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR MEETING AND PARTICIPATING WITH US. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS RESOLUTION? HMM. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER IS GETTING THERAPY. YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY COME, MR. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD ON STACY HEATHERINGTON. I'M CHAIR OF THE MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK YOU. NUMBER ONE FOR BRINGING THIS ORDINANCE. ON FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR YOUTH WHEN CONSIDERING IT. ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS THAT I'VE ALWAYS FELT PRIOR TO COVERT WOZ. THE ALARMING RATE OF YOUTH ADDICTION TO NICOTINE, WHICH OF COURSE, HAS INCREASED WITH THE ADVENT OF THE THING PRODUCTS. STATISTICS SHOW THAT THE REIGN OF MARTIN COUNTY TEAMS THEY THINK SURPASSED ON BEACH AND ST LUCIE COUNTIES, WHICH I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR ONE AND FIVE HIGH SCHOOLERS ARE USING ELEKTRONIK. DEVICES AND ONE AND 20 MIDDLE SCHOOLERS ARE USING NEEDS ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
SO AS A PARENT AND OTHER ADVOCATE FOR YOUTH AND AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, UM THAT TO ME WAS A PROBLEM FOR LOCAL ACTION. AND AFTER A YEAR PRIOR TO COPE IT MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. MARTIN COUNTY I WAS PROUD THAT WE UNANIMOUSLY PASSED IN NOVEMBER. YES, I WAS.
I THINK IT'S A MONUMENTAL ORDINANCE THAT FOLLOWS FEDERAL LAW BY RAISING THE AGE OF SAIL TO FOR TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO 21. IT ALSO ADDED A DISTRIBUTION LICENSE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE STORES OR NOT SELLING TO MINORS. I THINK, UM. MR MEYER WHEN YOU SAID EARLIER YOU MENTIONED YOU KNOW THAT LAWS ARE ONLY AS EFFECTIVE A Z A. R, YOU KNOW, ENFORCED WRITTEN FOR INTO SINGLE USE. PLASTICS I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE, AND I THINK EVEN ATTORNEY MARTEL. THE KEY IS ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME GOAL IN MIND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO REACH THAT COMPLIANCE. SO AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND CONSIDERING IT. I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER YOU KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT AND PUTTING SOME TEETH IN IT, SO THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES. AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF OUR LEGAL OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY STAFF MEMBERS, AT LEAST ELDER IS ON. ZUMA'S WELL SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU CONSIDERING THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOWS THAT YOU KNOW OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR YOUTH. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. HEATHER AND TIM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS THANKS. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AFTER COMMISSIONER HAD INTENSE MOMENTS MATTER. MAYOR? YES, PLEASE. IF I MAY I SPOKE WITH A CHAIR HEATHERINGTON. LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS AND I'M GLAD SHE SHE JUST SPOKE ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL. WE'RE TRYING, TOMO, WE WANT TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE. UM, AND I THINK YOU KNOW NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT
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TOO MUCH. THE IDEA OF A LICENSING COMPONENT MAKES SENSE, HOWEVER, IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, OUR LICENSING IS NOT THE SAME AS LICENSING AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS. AND SO I THINK IT'S WORTH US LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT, PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, BUT AT THIS POINT, I AGREE. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I'M NOT SURE I'M CONVINCED YET THAT WE SHOULD KNOCK DOWN THE, UH THE FEE FOR VIOLATION FROM 500 TO AN ESCALATING, I THINK I MEAN, I COULD BE CONVINCED, I SUPPOSE I THINK 500 IS SOLID. I THINK THAT'S GOT GOOD TEETH IN IT. UM.BUT YEAH, I THINK I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH THE APPROPRIATE REVISION TO REMOVE IMPRISONMENT IF THAT MAKES IT LEGALLY PRECARIOUS AND I'LL FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF OUR. UM, CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER ON THAT. YES I THINK THE LICENSING COMPONENT MAKES SENSE. BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT HOW OUR CITY OPERATES WITH OUR BUSINESS TAX LICENSE, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY THE FUNCTION OF THE LICENSING COMPONENT. SO. ANYWAY. THANKS AGAIN. CHAIR, HEATHERINGTON MAN. YES SIR. JUST A DRESS. MR. ADMIRE THE REASON WHY I JUST WAS THINKING OF THE ESCALATION AND STARTING AT 2 50 IS BECAUSE OF THE $300. APPEARANCE FEE THAT ACTUALLY PUTS IT AT 5 50 TO START AND I DON'T WANT TO BE. I WANTED TO BE A FIRST DEFENSE TO BE A TEACHING MOMENT, NOT A PUNITIVE MOMENT AND THEN I WANT TO BECOME PUNITIVE IF IT CONTINUES. SO THAT'S WHAT BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE A SMALL, INDEPENDENT CONVENIENCE STORE, UM $500 HIT OVER A $3.5 DOLLARS PACK OF CIGARETTES. IS A BIG HIT. SO IF THEY IF THAT DOESN'T TEACH THEM, THEN THIS THING 750 PLUS THE 300. SHOULD AND THAT STILL DOESN'T TEACH THEM.
HOPEFULLY A $1300 TOTAL FIND WOOD SO. THAT'S THAT'S MY BRIEF THINKING. I JUST WANT TO JOIN THAT SO THANK YOU ON GIVE TO THE NATURE OF THIS RESOLUTION. NORMALLY WE HAVE THE PUBLIC.
JUST GIVE COMMENTS AND WE DON'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS IN BETWEEN. BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS THING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVEN'T RESOLVED AND BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADOPT IN LINE WITH THE COUNTY WHILE MAKING OUR OWN CHANGES. I JUST I'M GLAD THAT WE CAN HAVE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS, MR PAUL. IS THERE ANY ON HOW NOT, AND I HAVE A LAST NAME, HUH? ARE THERE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM? WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUT HOME YOU'D LIKE TO SELECT. OKAY, MISS NASH. IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION AND DR HUMBLING ALL THE THINGS THAT QUIT DOC'S DOES. THANK YOU. BE BRIEF SINCE I HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY THAT THIS IS KIM NASH AND WITH THE QUICK DOC FOUNDATION. UM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS. IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL. I DID WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MISCONSTRUED OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH EVERYONE EARLIER TODAY, ONE IS THIS IS A MONUMENTAL THING THAT THE COUNTY DID. THERE ARE ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE STATE ON PASSING THIS ALLOWED TO A COUNTY WAS THE FIRST THAT DID SOMETHING LAST YEAR. THE REASON PRIMARILY FOR THE TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE. OUR LICENSING COMPONENT IS BECAUSE THE STATE COMPLIANCE CHECKS ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. WE HAVE OVER 200 RETAILERS AND MARTIN COUNTY AND ON AVERAGE IN A YEAR, MAYBE 20 TO 30 OF THEM GET CHECKED WHEN THEY DO GET CHECKED. VIOLATIONS ARE VERY MINUTE. WE KNOW THAT 75% OF OUR YOUTH ARE ACCESSING TOBACCO PRODUCTS AT THE POINT OF SALE. THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR HANDS ON NICOTINE AND WHERE THEY'RE STARTING USED, AND IT'S LEADING TO A LIFETIME OF ADDICTION. THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT HERE. UM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSE PART OF IT IS SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THAT LICENSE ALLOWS YOU THE ABILITY TO REVOKE THEIR ABILITY TO SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS. I KNOW THAT THE FI SOUNDS GREAT. IMPRISONMENT THAT SOUNDS GOOD, TOO. BUT IN REALITY, A $500 FEE AND $800 FEE $1000 FEE REALLY DOESN'T MEAN MUCH TO A BUSINESS THAT'S MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
LOCALLY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS NATIONALLY SELLING THESE PRODUCTS TO USE SO YOU MAY GIVE THEM A FINE CHANCES. ARE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE MUCH OF A DETERRENT FOR THEM. THEY MAKE THAT IN AN AFTERNOON. UM SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE
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ABILITY TO HAVE A STRUCTURE WITH THE COUNTY DID IS THEY PUT A STRUCTURE IN PLACE WHERE YOU VIOLATE ONCE WE GONNA SEE YOU VIOLATE TWICE, YOU GOTTA FEED. IF HE GOES UP, BUT THE FOURTH TIME THAT YOU VIOLATE THIS LAW, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR LICENSE. THERE'S ALSO LACE AND SHIRT SUSPENSIONS THAT ARE WORKED INTO THAT PROCESS, BUT THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE LOSING AN INCOME STREAM. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE LOOPHOLES. MAYBE THEY RE REGISTER THEIR BUSINESS UNDER ANOTHER GAME, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE FACING A REAL CONSEQUENCE. IT'S THE ONE THING THAT'S GONNA KEEP THEM. FROM SELLING TO YOU. THE OTHER BIG ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT STORES THAT ON LI SELL E CIGARETTE OR NICOTINE PRODUCTS CURRENTLY HAVE NO LICENSE OR REQUIREMENT AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO WHEREAS YOUR CBS I'M SORRY, NOT CBS, WALGREENS OR YOUR GAS STATION AND HAVE A STATE LICENSE. THERE'S ZERO RECORD ZERO COMPLIANCE ZERO CHECKS.FIRST STORE THAT'S ON LEE SELLING E CIGARETTE PRODUCTS BECAUSE OF LOOPHOLE THAT THEY ARE NOT COVERED UNDER THE DEFINITION OF TOBACCO AT THE STATE. SO REQUIRING A LICENSE LOCALLY WOULD BE THEIR FIRST LICENSE. THEIR FIRST COMPLIANCE CHECK ON THE FIRST THING TO KEEP KIDS FROM GETTING E CIGARETTES THAT THEY'VE ONLY SHOPS. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE. KIDS REALLY AREN'T STARTING BY SMOKING CIGARETTES. THEY'RE STARTING BY USING E CIGARETTES. THERE ARE STORES IN THE CITY OF STORIES THAT ARE OF CONCERN. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE SCHOOL PIECE BECAUSE THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. THAT WAS QUESTION I KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT, BUT I'M GONNA ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE. OKAY I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. COULD HEAR ME. YES MA'AM. OKAY I'LL BE VERY BRIEF THIS SCHOOL PIECE IT DOES. IT IS. THERE IS RESEARCH THAT HAVING STORES WITHIN SCHOOLS ARE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THEY GET IT. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT PIECE OUT, I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO GET AROUND THAT PREVENTING NEW STORES FROM OPENING UP NEAR SCHOOLS. IN THE END, THE EFFECTIVE PART OF THIS IS HAVING A RETAIL LICENSE REQUIREMENT ON THAT STORE IN THE FIRST PLACE SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE COMING TO CHECK THEM. AND THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A REAL CONSEQUENCE IF THEY'RE SELLING TO USE THEA OTHER ASPECT IS THAT WITHOUT THAT, IN THIS ORDINANCE, THERE'S NO FRAMEWORK FOR WHO IS PERFORMING THE CHECKS OR HOW OFTEN THEY'RE BEING PERFORMED THERE BEING PERFORMED BY THE SHERIFF'S AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. AND THEY SAY FREQUENT THE IDEAS. TOW TRUCK EACH STORE ONCE A YEAR, TWICE, IDEALLY. I LAST POINT I WANNA MAKE JUST REAL QUICKLY FOR CONSIDERATION IS A LATERAL COUNTY. THEY DID AND I CAN SHARE THIS ARTICLE. BUT BASICALLY EVERY CITY IN A LAB TO A COUNTY GAVE OVER THEIR RIGHT TO DO THE LICENSE AND THE CHECKS TO THE COUNTY SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PAPERWORK IN THE LICENSING BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM WEREN'T SET UP TO DO THAT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN LIKE KIND OF ONE OF THE PIECES AT THE CITY LEVEL. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THAT. I THINK THIS REQUIRES MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT TO SEE OR WE JUST PASSING SOMETHING TO PASS IT.
OR WE PASSING SOMETHING TO EFFECT REAL CHANGE FOR OUR YOUTH. THANK YOU. SO SORRY ABOUT BREATH. THANK YOU. AND IT. WHILE YOU'RE OUT OF BREATH OF YOU. STOP IT, OR DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY? NO, I'M DONE. SORRY I TRIED TO GET THAT OUT REAL REAL FAST FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS THAT YOU'RE UNDER THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR PAUL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE DID THE CITY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? OK, COUNTY ATTORNEY. IS AGAIN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HERE. US. MISS ELDER.
POLICE YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO. WELL HELLO HERE. YOU SO PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS RESOLUTION REGARDING THE TOBACCO ORDINANCE. YES MY NAME IS ELISE ELDER ON ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS IN THE MARTIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'M THE ATTORNEY THAT BASICALLY WORKED ON THE TOBACCO ORDINANCE AND, UM FROM START TO FINISH, SO I WANT TO OFFER MY ASSISTANCE AS YOU EXPLORE THE LICENSING OPTION. DO ANY OF YOUR STAFF TONTO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WHY THE COUNTY CHOSE TO TAKE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS IN AND PUT DIFFERENT PROVISIONS OUT. MARTIN COUNTY HAS A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS SIMILAR TO THE CITY OF STEWART AND WE WERE ABLE TO STREAMLINE OUR TOBACCO DISTRIBUTION LICENSE. SO WHAT COINCIDES WITH OUR BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, BUT IT'S SEPARATE, SO I JUST WANT
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TO OFFER MY ASSISTANCE TO AS YOU PURSUE THE LICENSING REQUIREMENT. T O ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TALK ABOUT WHY WE CHOSE THE OPTIONS THAT WE CHOSE AS THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD. OKAY THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT. MISSILE MR MAYOR? YES.YOU HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MISS ELDER. OKAY, I MISSILE. THIS IS VICE MAYOR. MAN. LISTEN, UM HAS THE COUNTY TAKEN ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTION SO FAR HAVE THEY REMOVED ANY BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY'S LICENSE? TO THIS. KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY, THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE UNTIL FEBRUARY, 1ST SO WE'RE GOING TO START ISSUING OUR LICENSES ON FEBRUARY 1ST. AND UM, SO FROM THAT POINT, THE SHERIFF WILL ENFORCE IT AND WE HAVE KIND OF A STEP. SUSPENSION PENALTY SCHEME WHERE, LIKE YOUR FIRST OFFENSE, MAYBE THERE'S A WRIT MORNING, BUT YOUR FIRST DEFENSE IS A $500 FINE AND A SEVEN DAY SUSPENSION OF YOUR ABILITY TO SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A AFTER YOUR FOURTH OFFENSE. IT'S A PERMANENT REVOCATION OF YOUR LICENSE, BUT WE HAVE NOT ISSUED ANY LICENSES YET, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THOSE WILL START IN FEBRUARY. 1ST. OUR TAX COLLECTOR IS GOING TO ISSUE THEM FOR US SO AND SHE IS READY TO GO. MELANIE THANK YOU MISS ME. I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. HOLD ON MISS YET, MR MATHESON, DID YOU FINISH? I'M STILL LOOKING, I GUESS FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. SO THE SHERIFF, WILL THESE THESE THIS ORDNANCE WILL GO INTO EFFECT FEBRUARY, 1ST. IT'S NOT THE SHERIFF WILL. THEN BEGIN DOING I GUESS RANDOM CHECKS. OF COMPLIANCE. UH E GUESS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED IN PASSING THIS TONIGHT. AND SO WE AT LEAST TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT.
DIRECTION. BUT MAYBE IN A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW. I MEAN, ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE GONNA KNOW. OF OUR ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND FINDING IS WORKING OR THERE'S A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE. IF TWO MONTHS FROM NOW THE COUNTY HAS ENDED UP REVOKING 10 BUSINESS LICENSES. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY TO KNOW. AND WE COULD TAKE MORE CORRECTIVE ACTION ON THAT. UM SO I GUESS IF NO. SHARE HEAVY 10 OR OR YOU COULD LET LET THE CITY KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY STANDS IN A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW, AS FAR AS CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT WAY, WE CAN GET A BETTER SCOPE ON THE PROBLEM, BUT I SITTING HERE I DO SEE SOMEWHERE. THE SENSE OF URGENCY. T O ENACT SOMETHING NOW. UM. WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE QUESTION I HAD IS THE IS THE LICENSE, SO THE LICENSE DOESN'T REGULATE 18 TO 21. IT REGULATES THE SALE. TOBACCO PRODUCTS SO ON TUESDAY EVERY RACE TRACK EVERY PUBLIX AND EVERY BUSINESS IN MARTIN COUNTY THAT SELLS A CIGARETTE OR A VAPE IS GOING TO BE THEIR FIRST VIOLATION.
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY LICENSES YET. SO 100% OF BUSINESS IS SELLING TOBACCO IN MARTIN COUNTY ON TUESDAY WILL BE IN VIOLATION. UNLESSR ISSUESS ON MONDAY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S NOT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN AND CHECK AND SEE IF A 19 YEAR OLDS BUYING CIGARETTES IF THAT PUBLIC SELLS CIGARETTES ON TUESDAY, TOE ANYONE IT WILL BE VIOLATING THE COUNTY ORDINANCE.
OKAY? CITY. IT MEAN COUNTY ATTORNEY. THE BIG OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IS ISSUING. THEY'RE CALLED ACKNOWLEDGMENT. FOR THE DIFFERENT TOBACCO RETAILERS IN MARTIN COUNTY LETTERS HAVE GONE OUT, AND I THINK IT'S JUST A Z Z. IS THEM GOING ONLINE TO OBTAIN THEIR LICENSE FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR? THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROLLOUT PERIOD, SO.
TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSES OR DISTRIBUTION LICENSES WILL START ROLLING OUT FEBRUARY. 1ST OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE ONE. THEY'LL BE LIKE A LITTLE TIME PERIOD WHERE.
RETAILERS WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN THEM. BUT LETTERS AIR GOING TO EVERY TOBACCO OR THEY MIGHT HAVE ALREADY GONE LAST FRIDAY TO EVERY TOBACCO RETAILER IN MARTIN COUNTY, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO GET TOBACCO DISTRIBUTION LICENSE AND THEY NEED TO DO IT. ON FEBRUARY 1ST SO. THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY IT'LL ROLL OUT. I'M SURE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION, BUT PEOPLE. ANYBODY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CAN'T SELL TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 21, REGARDLESS BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL LAW, BUT THE LICENSING COMPONENT WILL START
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ON FEBRUARY 1ST, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT OUR TOBACCO RETAILERS WILL TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION. THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMING COMMISSION. VICE MAYOR MATHESON. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT. YES, SIR. MR. CAMPENNI, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE. BUT IF I WERE MR MOTEL, I'D BE VERY UPSET AT THIS COLLUSION. IF HE WENT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION THAT STARTED COMMENTING ON ORDINANCES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PASS. THAT WOULD BE A GROSS MISJUDGMENT. I THINK IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THAT'S GREAT. BUT THAT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. SO JUST FIND THAT COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE. THAT HOME BUNCH OF SPEAKING. ASSED FAR AS THE ORDINANCE IS CONCERNED, I AGREE WITH TRADITIONAL MCDONALD GET IT ON YOUR BOOKS. GET GOING. AND IF YOU SEE THERE'S A PROBLEM, IT COULD BE ADJUSTED WITHIN A MATTER OF A MONTH. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS GONNA BE MY COMMENT TO, UM TO OUR, UM CITY ATTORNEY WITH REGARD TO SECTION 12-1 POINT, 70. SECTION A WITH REGARD TO THE PENALTIES AND TO COMMISSION MCDONALD ALL WE ADDED OR CHANGING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THIS THIS PARTICULAR VERSION. ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF ANY COMMENTS. WHAT DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? YES, SIR. OKAY, THEN, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE APPROVAL WITH CHANGE TO THE PENALTY SECTION. REMOVE THE 60 DAYS IMPRISONMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN HELP. WE CAN HAVE THAT ANYWAYS. YOU HAVE A ESCALATING FINE STARTING AT $2250 1ST DEFENSE, SECOND FENCE OF $500 THEIR DEFENSE OF 1000.
AND OF COURSE, THAT WILL THAT INCLUDE THE APPEARANCE FEES, WHICH I DON'T THINK THIS ACTUALLY HAS TO BE IN THE ORDNANCE, BUT IT'S LIKE YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE ORDER THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN. WHEN I REVISED IT OFF, I'LL MAKE A MANDATORY APPEARANCE FOR FIRST DEFENSE. AND THEN IN OUR SCHEDULE LAID AS IT DIDN'T ALREADY FIGURED, COVERED, OK, AND SO AND THEN, UH, PARDON? EFFECTIVE DATE. UH SHOULD WE DO WE EFFECTIVE? DAVID REVERSED.
YOU GOT ME RIGHT TOMORROW. IT'S THE ORDINANCE SAYS, EFFECTIVE UPON ADOPTION. OKAY PERFECT.
I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT SECOND. OKAY THERE'S BEEN EMOTION OF THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDONALD? AND SECONDED BY VICE HERE, AND THAT'S AWESOME. THE MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. QUESTION. UM. WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR COMMUNICATING TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES? I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO BE MAILING OR DROPPING OFF A COPY OF THIS? FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A LEAST DID POINT OUT THE FEDERAL LAWS ALREADY, 21 SO THEY'RE MOST OF THEM ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT IN THE LAW OR WHATEVER. OVER TOO. OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE A LICENSE, AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE. PROHIBIT PROHIBITION OF SALE OF CIGARETTES IT PROHIBITS SELLING THEM TO PEOPLE UNDER 21. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I GUESS THE. SCHOOLS AND OTHER PEOPLE GET INFORMATION ON DIFFERENT STORES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE. YOU KNOW, LIBERAL WITH THIS AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO KIM NASH AND SAID, LISTEN, TELL ME THE STORIES AND STUART WILSON PEOPLE OUT TOMORROW TO START TELLING THEM WE'RE GONNA BE WATCHING THEM. THE OTHER THING IS THE ORDINANCE DOES IS IT PROHIBITS YOU FROM HAVING SELF SERVICE DISPLAYS FOR OF APES OR CIGARETTES, SO WE'LL PROBABLY SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT. AND IF YOU IF SOMEBODY HAS THE VASE ON THE COUNTER THE FIRST WILL BE THOSE HAVE TO BE PUT AWAY AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND THEY COULD BE VIOLATED. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF GO OUT IF LET'S SAY ARE EFFECTIVE DATE IS THE FIRST IS GONNA GO ENFORCEMENT STAFF IS GOING TO GO OUT TO EACH BUSINESS AUTHORITY STARTED.
IT'S ALREADY STARTED. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GOING OUT, OKAY? SO. THAT OUR PLAN IS NOT TORUN TO JUST CONTINUE GOING OUT AND SPEAKING WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES. I MEAN, I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED. ARE WE GOING TO ALERT THEM TO THIS NEW ORDINANCE. THAT THAT'S WHAT COULDN'T FOR JUST DOING. THEY'VE GOT THEM GOING AROUND TO THE LOCATIONS. THAT'S L'VE APES AND CIGARETTES ARE ACTUAL PRODUCTS TO INFORM HIM OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE IN THE PRIMARY. ISSUES WITH THIS IS THE SALE THE AGE OF THE SALE, AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE SELF SERVICE. MERCHANDIZING PROHIBITED SO LIKE A LOT OF H AVE, PENS AND
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STUFF ON THE COUNTER OR WHATEVER, AND NOW THEY HAVE TO BE BEHIND THE COUNTER OR WHATEVER IT IS SO. NOT DOING LICENSE INSPECTIONS WERE DOING INSPECTIONS TO DETERMINE THAT EVERYTHING, THERE'S NOTHING. IT'S SELF SERVICE AND THEN TONTO CATCH SOMEONE WHO'S SELLING TO SOMEONE WHO'S BELOW THE AGE OF 21. THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE LIKE AN UNDERCOVER TYPE BOB. THAT WOULD GO WITH A LICENSED OR WITHOUT EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP TO MAY MAY. RIGHT DONALD, RIGHT? I MEAN, COMMISSION, MCDONNELL AND COMMISSION AND ATTORNEY.MORE TELL SECTION 12-1 POINT 67 AS CITY MANAGER'S POINTED OUT ABOUT THE SELF SERVICE MERCHANDISE IN PROHIBITED IN SECTION B OF THE AREA WITH REGARD TO THE PENALTIES WITH THE PENALTIES WOULD BE THE SAME AS OUTLINED BY COMMISSIONER UM MCDONALD FOR THE GENERAL ORDINANCE WITH THE SAME LANGUAGE BE PUT IN THERE, TOO. TURNING MORE. TELL I'VE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. THE SALE WAS A ONE TIME EVENT. SO THAT WAS 1ST 2ND 3RD VIOLATION IN THIS PARTICULAR BE, IT SAYS IF CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES IN AND SEIZE VAPORS ON THE COUNTER ON TUESDAY, THEY GO BACK IN ON FRIDAY, AND THEY'RE STILL ON THE COUNTER. IT COULD BE 500 TUESDAY. 500 WEDNESDAY 500 THURSDAY AND 500 FRIDAY BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL IN VIOLATION, BUT IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
THAT'S WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK, IS MOST APPROPRIATE RECOMMEND MIKE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COMPLY. I HAVE I HAVE A FEELING THAT MOST OF OUR VENDORS TRY TO COMPLY, SO I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO IT. BUT IT MAY BE EASIER TO HAVE A CONSISTENT BUT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT ONCE I PAY THE 2 50, I CAN LEAVE THE VIPS OUT ON THE COUNTER FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M. I THINK THAT I LIKE THE FUR DAVE, IOWA TODAY FOR THE FOR THE DISPLAY. OKAY? I JUST WANTED T BRING THAT UP. ESPECIALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD POINT. UM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER? COMMENTS ON THE MOTION AS MAID AND DETAILED BY COMMISSION, MCDONNELL AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MATHESON. AND HAVE WE HAD SUFFICIENT PUBLIC COMMENT. QUESTION. CLOSED QUESTION. THAT'S IT. WE'LL JUST WE'LL KNOW. THEN. UM. MR BRUNER. YES. VICE MAYOR MATHESON. YES, COMMISSIONER MEYER. YES, MR MACDONALD. YES. MAYOR CLARKE? YES? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, MR CAMPAIGNING. UH, SO WE, UM HAD ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM ALSO. OH, SORRY. SORRY SORRY. I'M RUNNING OFF, SO WE HAD TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS. SIX ESPECIALLY DELIBERATIONS, PLASTICS DISCUSSION OR GREEN MARKET. WHICH THERE? PROBABLY PLEASURE.
YES THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE GREEN MARKET. AND THEN THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC. WELL, WE, I GUESS SINCE COMMISSIONER BRUNA BROUGHT UP THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FIRST, WE WILL HAVE THAT AS THE FIRST BY THEM FOR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. AS COMMISSIONER BRUNER PRESENTS HER REASONS. AND THEN WE LET THE CITY ATTORNEY LEAD THE DISCUSSION. WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL YOUR TIME. I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO HAVE A COPY OF THE LEAST MARKET AND I MEAN THE GREENMARKET LEAST AND WE COULD COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND DISCUSS IT MORE OR WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT. BUT IN SIX MONTHS OR LEASE, IT WILL BE UP AND THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM 60 DAYS AND MY CONCERN IS AND IT'S BEEN OF FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR FIVE MONTHS. IS THEY'VE ONLY BEEN PAYING $2000 A YEAR AND IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS THE, UM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE 2020 YEARS OR MORE.
BUT. IT'S ALWAYS VERY, VERY BUSY. I WAS I WAS THERE SUNDAY. IT WAS SO NICE. IT WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL. ALL THE TENANTS ON THE EACH SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK. AND THERE HAD BEEN. I TRIED TO COUNT THE BALL. I THINK I COUNTED 40 40 POINT. IT'S AND THEY SELL A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING, AND I WANT YOU ALL TO JUST THINK ABOUT IT. AND IF HE WANTS TO TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF, WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH FINE OR WEAKEN JUST SEND IT OUT FOR RICK. UM WE'RE PROPOSAL. WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR THAT THE CITY CONSIDER INCREASING THE LEAST AMOUNT TO
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THE GREENMARKET WHEN WE WERE NEW WITH THEM. FIRST OF ALL, THE LEAST DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL JULY. 1ST SO WE'RE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION. IT, WILL IF IT HAS AN AUTO RENEWAL, BUT WE COULD NOTIFY IT EVERY ANNUAL JULY. I WANT TO BRING IT UP NOW SO WE COULD START THINKING ABOUT IT AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING CHECK IT OFF, 2000. THERE YOU GO. IT Z IT'S QUITE A LOT OF MONEY BEING MADE AND IF IT WAS MINE, I WOULD I WOULD WELL, I WAS THINKING. IF I WOULD LIKE TO. I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. I'D BE HAPPY TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO I JUST HAVE A BIG CONCERN WITH THE REALLY SEE NOW I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. SO MAYBE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY CAN TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. THERE'S ALSO ONE EXCEPTION TO THE LEASE EXPIRING ON JULY 1ST. THAT'S A PARAGRAPH HI, SAYS THE CITY OF STUART'S IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A ZERO PLASTIC WASTE CITY IS DIRECTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.YOU'LL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF STUART GREEN MARKET TO ENSURE ITS VENDORS COMPLY WITH AND CONFORM TO ANY SUCH POLICY ONCE ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. ANY VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY AFTER ITS EFFECT WILL BE CONSIDERED A MATERIAL BREACH OF THIS AGREEMENT LICENSE, HE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO ANY PENALTIES TO SET FORTH IN THE POLICY FURTHER FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SAME SHALL BE GROUNDS FOR TERMINATION OF THIS AGREEMENT. E HAVE A QUICK MENTION THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S THE NEXT SUBJECT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SERVICE COMMISSIONER. I KNOW THERE WAS A PROBLEM ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. BUT WHEN IT WHEN THERE WAS BERNIE AFTER BERNIE PASSED AWAY, WE FIRM BUT THE SECTION ON THE A, NOT FOR PROFIT AND THE NINETIES HAVE SET ALL BEEN RESOLVED. FIND IT HERE. LET ME I THINK I MISS INJURIES DUDE. YOU, MR MOORE? TELL WHAT WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU SAID? HOLD ON THIS ROAD RUNNER UP. I'M RELEASED. THE POLICE STARTED ON JULY 1ST AS A 60 DAY TERMINATION NOTICE FOR NO REASON. BUT IF IT'S FOR CAUSE THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THE LEASE. IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PLASTIC FREE OR CERTAIN PLASTIC FREE AND FAILURE TO ABIDE BY THAT POLICY IS GROUNDS FOR THE COMMISSION TO TERMINATE THE LEASE AT ANY TIME. THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED IT IS BECAUSE DURING THE INITIAL COMMISSIONER COMMENTS IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I JUST KNEW THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE THE NEXT SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION. AND THANK YOU. YES COMMISSIONER. I DON'T MAKE SECTION A, WHICH IS THE FURNISHED THE CITY COPYIST FIND FINANCIAL REPORT, INCLUDING THE 9 90 FORMS AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING ON THAT. NO. YES, YES, THEY'VE DONE THEIR 9 90 CARD. ON THE 9 90 CARD MEANS THAT THEY MAKE UNDER CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE. WHERE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO WHEN THEY DO IT. 9 90 CARD.
YEAH, 90 CARD MEANS THEY GROSS UNDER $50,000 A YEAR. WELL IN IN THE. IT SAYS IT MUST FINANCE COMPANY OF THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, INCLUDING DYNAMIC FORM. SO WHAT ABOUT IT THAT WE EVER GOT ENOUGH FINANCIAL REPORT? I DON'T KNOW. NO. I THINK HE'S BEEN ASKED OVER AND OVER, BUT HE JUST SEEMS TO CAMPUS. JAMIE'S COMING UP. I JUST WANT TO STATE SOMETHING AS FAR AS WHERE WE WERE HEADED WITH THE PATH WITH THE GREEN MARKET. SO THE GREENMARKET WE WERE PREPARING TO BRING YOU A LEASE AMENDMENT BACK OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT BACK TO PUT THEM IN FLAGLER PARK PERMANENTLY. WHEN WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, AND MAKING SURE ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING WE'RE UP TO PAR AND EVERYTHING TO BRING YOU THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT. THE MANAGEMENT OF THE GREENMARKET DECIDED THEY WANTED TO BE BACK IN THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATION OVER HERE. SO AT THAT TIME WE DECIDED WELL, IF HE'S COMING BACK OVER HERE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE LICENSE AGREEMENT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME BECAUSE THE SLICES AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATES THEM BEING HERE ALREADY. I ASKED THEM TO STAY DOWN THERE UNTIL VACCINATIONS WERE A LITTLE MORE READILY AVAILABLE BEFORE COMING BACK DOWN TO THIS SIDE LOT, BUT IT IS THEIR INTENTION TO COME BACK TO THIS ASIDE LOT EVENTUALLY. HUH? DAVID. ALL THAT I SAW SUNDAY, THE LAST SEVERAL SUNDAYS. 40 A TENT. THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN ALL FIT UP HERE THAT IS REALLY GROWING IN BOOMING NOW, THAT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUMMERTIME WILL DO, BUT HE COULD. THERE'S NO WAY TO GET ALL THOSE TENTS. WHAT I SAW SUNDAY. MAYBE HE DON'T KNOW. OH OKAY. THANK YOU. WHO'S NEXT VICE MAYOR? SURE. BELIEVE LIVE. JIM WAS GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT PAPERWORK. JIM CARL SKI COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD ALL SORT OF RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. THANK YOU. YES. YOU'RE WELCOME. YES THEY IN FACT, HEATHER 9 90 SCHEDULE. HOWEVER I HAVE SENT SEVERAL EMAILS REMINDING THEM OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF TRANSPARENCY ABOUT PROVIDING US WITH REPORTS ON ON ANY OF THEIR INCOME AND EXPENDITURES. I HAVE
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NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING. THEY'RE CLAIMING PRETTY MUCH THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE 9 90 REPORTING SITUATION AND AS OF ABOUT. THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING THEM MOVED TO UM YOU. ANNEX LOCATION. MENTIONED IT TO KEVIN AGAIN, AND I SAID, LISTEN. GUYS REALLY DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR US. YOU NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW ALL THIS MONEY IS COMING UP. HMM. WAS A GOOD TALK, AND HE PRETTY MUCH YOU KNOW, SAYS YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE'LL GET IT AND I NEVER DO SO YOU KNOW, I'M DONE EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW HOW TO DO, UM, INCLUDING SENDING AN E MAIL DIRECTLY TO HIS ENTIRE BOARD, AND THAT WAS THE RESPONSE THAT CAME BACK. THANK YOU. I KNOW THE COMMISSION. MATHESON IS UNDETECTED. BUT WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, MR KOWALSKI, AND IT'S THERE ON THE CITY ATTORNEY I JUST WANTED TO ASK FOR SURE. IT SEEMS OBVIOUS, BUT I'LL ASK, ANYWAY, UM STUART GREENMARKET INC. THAT'S THEIR ONLY BUSINESS, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY'RE DOING IS A GREEN MARKET AT THE CITY OF STUART, SO THAT WHEN THEY MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT OR FINANCIAL REPORT WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM FOR SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS WITH OTHER BUSINESSES OR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY DO. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN BUSINESS JUST TO DO THIS GREENMARKET AT THE CITY OF STUART PROPERTY. BEFORE. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD THE LYRIC BEFORE THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH YOU KNOW, GIVING ALL OF THE INFORMATION REASON WITH LYRICS.PROBLEM IS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO. DISCLOSED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE PROVIDE PAYING TO THERE. AX AND BY ACCEPTING BENEFITS FROM THE CITY. THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE CONFUSED IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE. IT'S YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T. I'M NOT ON THEIR BOARD. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEETINGS. I HAVE NO IDEA. I ASSUME THAT THEY'RE A THEY WEREN'T 25 AND ONE C THREE. I THINK IT'S A FIVE A ONE C FOUR SO THEY'RE MORE LIKE A CLUB THAN THEY ARE A NON FOR PROFIT, CHARITABLE GIVING. IMMUNITY I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE EVER GAVE ANYTHING TO ANYBODY. SOME MR CROSS GET THINK YOU HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION WORK TO DO AND TO GET BACK WITH US, UM. MISS MISS CLEANER YOU BROUGHT THIS UP? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THE VICE MAYOR AND MR KOWALSKI WAS SAYING SOMETHING ALSO WANTED TO BE CLEAR AS TO YOUR DESIRE AND DIRECTIVE. WELL FOR ME. UH I THINK WE WOULD IF WE COULD COME BACK. UM AFTER THEY READ THIS, GIVEN IT SOME THOUGHT THAT IS HIS RENTAL. SHOULD GO UP. AND IF HE DOESN'T AGREE TO THAT, THEN I THINK WE COULD EASILY GET SOMEBODY WHO WOULD. AND I JUST WANTED TO VICTORIES AND COMPONENTS WITH THE PULL OF THE DOCUMENT. YES SO YOU COULD GET THAT FROM? I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST GET SOME PEOPLE WORK, MR. CROSS GIVE MR UM CITY ATTORNEY AND ALSO OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. IF WE COULD SEE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US VICE MAYOR SO NO. I THINK THE GREEN MARKET HAS ENORMOUS POTENTIAL. AND I HAVE TALKED TO MR OSBORN OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, UM, WE'VE PLAYED QUITE A BIT OF PHONE TAG OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND PART OF MY CONCERN FOR SPAWNING THOSE CALLS. MY CALLS TO HIM WAS ABOUT THE PLASTIC ORDINANCE.
AND I HAD HEARD THAT AS WE'RE COMING UP IN JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR THAT THERE WASN'T FULL COMPLIANCE. UM. THE WAY I'M GONNA LOOK AT THIS IS ONE STUART'S IN THE ENTIRE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. WITH THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S OUR PROPERTY. WE'RE REQUESTING HIM TO FOLLOW THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S IN THE LEASE. UM. I ALSO LOOK AT IT IS I SEE. AND UP UNTIL A PHONE CONVERSATION I HAD A WEEK OR TWO AGO, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT MORE POTENTIAL. FOR THE BENEFIT OF STUART RESIDENTS, WHICH IS HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING. FOR THE GREEN MARKET TO BE HELD AT FLAGLER PART. IT'S A LOT MORE ENJOYABLE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN. WE CAN SEEK OUT WITH THAT LOCATION. COVERT SAFETY AND MAYBE MORE VENDORS THAT YOU KNOW, AREN'T YOUR TYPICAL. CLICHE FLEA MARKET VENDOR THAT WOULD DRAW PEOPLE HER CHARMING STEWARDS DOWNTOWN GREENMARKET. THAT BEING SAID I HAD. AH, LONG CONVERSATION WITH BILL MORE
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HEAD OF THE D B A AND AT THIS TIME HIS PREFERENCE SEEMED TO BE IN THE ENTIRE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. WAS THAT THE GREENMARKET MIGHT. BETTER SUPPORT THE BUSINESS IS BEING BACK AT ITS OLD LOCATION. THERE, THERE. IS THIS CERTAIN SYNERGY? WHERE THEIR CLIENTS WOULD WALK INTO DOWNTOWN AND DOWNTOWN'S CLIENTS WOULD WORK TO THE GREENMARKET. SO ONE IS A PRETENTIOUS THE LOCATION. IN THE LONG TERM AFTER COVE IN FUTURE, I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF IT BEING PUSHED TO THE FLAGLER PARK. I SEE THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT COULD BE THERE. I THINK IN THE NEAR PRESENT. WITHIN ONE YEAR. WE SHOULD DO WHATEVER WE CAN. HER HELP ONE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND AGAIN ALWAYS TOP PRIORITY IS THE. QUALITY OF OFFICE IDIOT STUART RESIDENTS. HMM. I BELIEVE IF WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE. FIRMLY WITH THE LEASE. AND PERHAPS KNOWING WHAT OTHER GREEN MARKETS ARE PAYING AROUND THE STATE WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW. AND I'M FIRM THAT. IT AGAIN. IT'S THE LANGUAGE ISN'T HERE. IT HAS TO BE A NONPROFIT. PERHAPS. IF MR OSBORN AND IS NOT FULLY COMMUNICATIVE AND TRANSPARENT WITH US, THOUGH A NONPROFIT WITH A BOARD THAT WE CAN WORK WITH. I'M IN FAVOR OF ORGANIZATIONS LIKE STORE MAIN STREET IN WHAT WE DO WITH THE FLAGLER SENT A BOARD OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME. BECAUSE THE END OUTCOME WHEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STORE GREENMARKET IS WHAT'S BEST FOR CITIES TO IT, RESIDENT. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE REASON FOR BEING IS A REASON FOR TO BE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION OR WHATEVER. YES, THAT WAS YOUR CHOICE, BUT NONPROFITS COULD MAKE LOTS OF PROFIT. WELL CAN MAKE MONEY, LET THEM GREENMARKETS STATED VISION IS TO SUPPORT UM. HEALTH FOOD, DIFFERENT KINDS OF GREEN INITIATIVES. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SO. THEY SAID A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING ON A TRULY NICE AND IT WAS SO BUSY AND THERE WAS PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.AND I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE PARKING WHERE IT USED TO BE. PEOPLE PARK ALL IN THERE, SO I'M I'M NOT FOR MOVING IT UP FOR YOU TO STAY RIGHT WORDS THAT AND IF YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF IT, I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE CAN. MID AMERICA. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I THINK THE KIND OF GOING BACK THE HISTORY OF IT IS IT WAS. I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY CREATED WITH BY STUART MAIN STREET AS ANOTHER WAY TO BRING PEOPLE INTO DOWNTOWN ON AND I KNOW.
NO, I USED TONTO FOR METH FIRST, OFTEN FOR A LONG TIME. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG I'VE BEEN COMING DOWNTOWN TO IT. AND I DO THINK THAT FROM A SYNERGY PERSPECTIVE. IT UH, IT IS BETTER IN THE IT'S BETTER IN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CONSTRAINED.
UM I KNOW THERE WAS A TIME PERIOD WHERE THEY TRIED MOVING IT TO MEMORIAL PARK. AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT HAS BEEN THEY'VE HAD IT IN FLAGLER PARK HASN'T WORKED OUT AS WELL. THE BUSINESS FOR WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS. IS THEY REALLY LIKE THE GREEN MARKET AND THEN HOW IT TRANSITIONS INTO ROCK AND RIVERWALK ON SUNDAY AFTERWARDS, SO UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY KEEP THEM IN THE LOOP AS WELL AS WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR HIS LOCATION BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE COMING THROUGH AND THE BUSINESSES THEY'RE COMING OUT OF COVERT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THEY CAN TO HELP THEM SURVIVE. SO INTERESTINGLY ON THIS IS BEFORE I GOT HERE, BUT THE GREENMARKET STARTED OUT IN FLAGLER PARK. THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH BUSINESS PER SE. IT WAS MOVED TO MEMORIAL PARK BEFORE IT WAS RENOVATED, AND THEN WHEN ROCK AND RIVERWALK WAS GROWING. IT WAS RECRUITED TO COME OVER TO THE ANNEXE AS WE KNOW IT. MAYBE WHEN THEY'RE NEW RESTAURANTS DONE AND VIBE WHERE PARK IT MIGHT THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC AS WELL SO WELL IN THEIR NEW THERE ON FLAGLER TO, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, IT'S IT HAS BECOME A SUCCESS. AND IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT A SUCCESS ANYMORE. ARE THEY CURRENTLY IN COMPLIANCE? WITH OUR. PLASTIC ORDINANCE ON CITIES TO HER PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, ARE YOU LET NOT, THEY'RE NOT OPEN. WELL I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE WE HAVE RECOGNIZING I
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WANT YOU TO ALSO KNOW THAT STAFF IS REALLY TAKING A SERIOUS LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE THING THAT'S THAT'S JUST THE FACT I HAVE SENT. OUR SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT COORDINATOR ON THERE ON A SUNDAY UM IN ORDER FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO JUST FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I TOLD HER THAT, UM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THE WAY THAT COMMISSIONER MACDONALD PUT IT BEFORE IN THE OTHER ISSUE. THIS IS A TEACHING MOMENT. SO THERE WERE SEVERAL VENDORS THAT WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE THAT WERE EDUCATED IN THE PAMPHLETS WE GIVE OUT ON. ALL OF OUR EVENTS ARE PLASTIC WASTE PROGRAM AND THAT GOES TO EVERY SPECIAL EVENT. EVERY APPLICANT THEY ALL ARE POINTED TOWARDS THAT UM, I SPOKE TO KEPT FREEMAN REGARDING THAT, AND YOU KNOW THIS IS CONTROLLED PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. CERTAINLY. HOWEVER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THE WEEKENDS ON OTHER EVENTS, THEY CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE ENGAGED IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM. BECAUSE COMMUNITY SERVICE IS REALLY NOT.DEPUTIZED BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO A SPECIAL EVENT AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET INTO THE THROES OF THE EVENT, AND THE EVENT IS ALREADY HAPPENING, WHERE YOU GOING TO DO CLOSE IT DOWN. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THERE.
YEAH. SO THANK YOU, MR KOWALSKI. MR. MACDONALD WAS MISS BRUNER AND EVERYBODY WHO'S GIVEN INPUT ON THIS, UM FOR RELIGION. THINK FOR WHAT IS THAT, MR BRUNNER? I SHOULD THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO ME. PLEASE JUST THINK. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? STILL, UM. OKAY, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA ASK FOR SOME COMMENT THAT'S GONNA MAKE ME COME IN.
THAT'S OKAY. RIGHT DOMINGO AVENUE. YOUR ORIGINAL GREENMARKETS STARTED RIGHT OUT HERE. IN THE PARKING LOT, AND IT WAS JAM PACKED AND THEY RAN OUT OF THE OFFICE, ALL BAKED GOODS AND GREEN. GOOD. AND THEN THEY MOVED YOUR TWO FLAGS THERE AND THEN THE OLD MEMORIAL PARK NOW WITH THIS NEW MEMORIAL PARK, IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK OUT MUCH BETTER. SO WHAT I THINK, BUT I SAID IT BEFORE WITH $38, A SUNDAY UH, IN THAT PAIN IN A FRIEND AND I AS A TAXPAYER IN THE CITIZEN HERE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PROFIT IS GETTING THE MONEY AND THEY CAN'T SAY HEALTH FOOD BECAUSE. COME IN TO HELP FOOD GRANTS ON THAT SON. LIKE A CLEVELAND THREE OR SOME KIND OF A FREE STUFF. THANK YOU. VERY EXPENSIVE LITTLE THING. A MACARONI $5. YEAH. RIGHT. IT IS A TEENY TINY THING. A MACARONI AND CHEESE BY BUT HAD BOUGHT 10 OF THEM IN MY FREEZER, TRYING TO COME OVER AND HAVE IT. BUT. MERCHANT YES, I'M ALL FOR THE MERCHANTS. I HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. I'LL BE STAND UP HERE FOR THE MERCHANT. I'M BECKY, EITHER. FLAGLER PARKER MEMORIAL PARK. I LOVE RIVER. CAME THE FIRST TIME IT WAS GREAT. THE END OF QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO KEEP IT MAY BE THAT THE WHOLE 6 FT, MAYBE FOUR, BUT THE SECOND SANDY THREE BENDERS WERE IN THE CIRCLE AND BOARD. THEN WE WERE KIND OF GETTING JAMMED DEAD.
THE THIRD SUNDAY THERE, MARK THERE BUT SITTING THERE. PEOPLE WALKING WITH THE POP FINE AND THE BAGS. YOU COULD TELL THEY WERE SHOPPING DOWN FLAGLER PARK THERE WALKING THE RIVER WALK, JUST LIKE WE WERE ALL IN THAT FOR WELL IN OUR HOUSE. WE WANT TO GET OUT. PEOPLE ARE. YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA TRIED, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, BECKY. WE THE TAXPAYER DESERVE MORE MONEY, OR WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE CHARITY IS. GETTING THE MONEY IS GOING TO AND STREET REC CENTER FOR CHILDREN. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RESPECT BRIDE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH ANY COMMENTS ON THIS DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION? UM YES, IF I MAY. MADAME MAYOR. YES, SIR. UM. FORMER VENDOR AT THE GREEN MARKET FOR MANY YEARS ON A FARMER AND HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY DIFFERENT GREENMARKET AND FARMERS. MARKET ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY. I, UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY HERE. UM I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN THE PARK MORE PERMANENTLY. I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE BY THE LOCAL DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO HAVE THAT. THE MARKET CLOSER BY SO THAT IT ENCOURAGES MORE PEOPLE TO GO THERE AND I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. BUT DON'T THINK AT THE EXPENSE OF TAKING UP ALL THAT VALUABLE PARKING RIGHT CLOSE BY AND THE TRAFFIC JAM THAT IS CREATED RIGHT THERE IN THAT TINY LITTLE AREA. THE PARK IS A. MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE THAN YOU. IT'S GORGEOUS. IT'S THERE. I MEAN, IT REMINDS ME OF
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GOING TO THE FORT PIERCE FARMERS MARKET ON THE PARK NEAR THE RIVER. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MUCH BETTER LOCATION. IT WAS BETTER AS A VENDOR GOING THERE. IT WASN'T AS HOT. IT WAS NICE IN THE SHADE. YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER FOR THE CUSTOMERS. SO I WOULD HAVE NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. MOVING BACK CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN TO THE OLD LOCATION. UM AND YOU KNOW, I KEVIN IS A FRIEND OF MINE. UM YOU KNOW, I BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT. IT NEEDS TO BE. COMPLIED WITH IF IT'S NOT BEING COMPLIED WITH I'M SORRY, THEN, YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE. HAVING HAVING EXPERIENCED MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE RUN FARMERS MARKETS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GROW NYC, THE ONE THAT DOES THE NEW YORK CITY GREENMARKETS. I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE ORGANIZATION. AND THEY DO A LOT OF CHARITABLE WORK. A LOT OF EDUCATION WITH THE KIDS. YOU KNOW, WE NEED THE TRANSPARENCY. I AGREE. THAT'S RIGHT HERE SPELLED OUT IN OUR REPORT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. I'M NOT. NECESSARILY CONVINCED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A MUCH MORE. THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE A LOT MORE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PARK. BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE MORE, YES, CERTAINLY WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING AND HOW IT'S BEING USED AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. AND I WOULD BE OPEN TOE. TO NEGOTIATING WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT WOULD WANT TO DO IT FOR PROFIT. CERTAINLY THEN WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHARGING. SOMETHING THAT IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE TAXPAYER. SO I GUESS THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH. ARE SINGLE USE PLASTIC ORDINANCE. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE OUR FINANCIALS ARE IN AND IF THEY'RE NOT. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE FULL FORCE OF THE COMMISSION, ALL SAYING THAT DEMANDING IT. I MEAN THAT TO ME IF WE CAN'T GET IT IN THE NEXT BY NEXT MEETING YOU KNOW, I DO. OPEN TOE. AND THE HAMMER DOWN.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE COMMENTS ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, PHYSICALLY, GUS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE GREENMARKET FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW AND FREQUENTED. ACTUALLY EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED. THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT BOTHERSOME MISSED THAT ONE. YOU KIND OF TAKE THE PLASTICS ORDINANCE. LITTLE BIT LIGHTLY.
I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. A NUMBER OF THE VENDORS OR NOT. NOT REALLY COMPLYING WITH CLASSIC ORDINANCE AND THAT'S TO MAKE US PUBLISH THEM. THINK TOO, THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD THAT I THINK VALUABLE IS THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONPROFIT. I WOULD THINK FOR THE CITY'S SAKE AND FOR THE. CITIZENS OF OUR OF OUR LITTLE CITY. YES.
COMMISSION REALLY LIKES TO SAY. IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE A PROFIT MAKING ORGANIZATION AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE OF THINGS THAT I SEEMED THAT I'VE KIND OF OBSERVED OVER TIME A ZAY HAVE TRAVELED THE LOCAL GREENMARKETS. THIS IS VERY SMALL COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE OF FOR PIERCE. I KNOW THAT. GET DOWN THAT THAT'S ONE THAT'S QUITE LARGE. ONE WAS LESS. PALM BEACH IS LARGE ONE AND, UM. AMISH CARDS. THERE ARE MUCH LARGER ANALYSIS AND WHAT WHAT REALLY COMES TO MINUS THEY HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT VENDORS OFFERING SO MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, AND MOST OF IT IS GREEN. NOT ALL OF IT IS GREEN. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE SOLD LIKE WOODEN THINGS AND TRINKETS OF ONE SORT OR ANOTHER. BUT IT'S IT HAS DOT AND MADE QUITE FREQUENTLY. OUR MARKET IS SO SMALL AND AS A RESULT OF THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GETTING THE BUSINESS THAT WE COULD GET OUT OF THAT ENHANCE FOR THE CITY IS REALLY IN EFFECT. TAKING A LOSS IN MY MIND. THAT'S IT DOESN'T JUST MY OBSERVATIONS. BUT I REALLY THINK, TOO, THAT WE REALLY OUGHT ENFORCING. PLASTIC SPAN THAT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY. SO AND I KNOW IT'S NOT REALLY NOT REALLY TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY SOME OF THE VENDORS. THANK YOU, SIR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER STAFF FOR THE PUBLIC, MADAM MAYOR JUST TOW REITERATE THE THING WILL BE VERY HELPFUL TO ME. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF BRING BACK LOOKING AT SOME OTHER GREEN MARKETS AROUND THE STATE, WHETHER NONPROFIT OR FOR PROFIT. AND THEN COMPARE THEM TO WHAT WOMAN OFF BRYSON? SLICING AND REQUIREMENTS. EXACTLY OKAY, SO CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY BELIEVE THAT HANDLE DIRECTION? YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY QUESTION IS. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AND UM, BASED ON WHAT COMMISSION BRUNO HAS BROUGHT UPON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE BROUGHT UP AND I'D SAY TWO THINGS WE HAVE, LIKE A
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SHORT TERM NOW THING TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVEN'T TO DEAL WITH THE TIME FRAME.AND THE LEAST COMES UP. BUT WE MUST ALSO THINK FOR THE FUTURE. WHEN CITY HALL IS NO LONGER HERE WHEN WE'VE READ DEVELOPED THE PLANS FOR THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE AGAIN WHEN WE GROW UP OR WHEN WE CHANGE, SO WE NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AND WORK THAT IN AND THINK ABOUT IT. I KNOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 5 TO 10 YEARS. IN TERMS OF MOVING BUT ALSO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND LOOK AT A GOOD PLACE OR GOOD LOCATION AND DECIDED THAT'S ALL WE'D WANT THINGS TO BE. SO LET'S THINK OF THAT CITY ATTORNEY. DO YOU NEED OR CITY MANAGER? IF YOU NEED ANY INSTRUCTIONS FROM US, OR IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD IN THIS DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION SUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE US WITH SUFFICIENT.
THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO GIVE THE GAVEL TO VICE MAYOR TO DISCUSS THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC MATERIALS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER MEYER AND I'M GOING TO RUN OUT FOR A MINUTE. THANK YOU, SIR. AS THE FIELD. IT'S A BROOM BEGGING A FEW MORE TIMES. HE WAS A JOURNEY. YEAH, SHE DID GIVE IT TO HIM. YOU KNOW, I COULD MAKE SOME HAPPY IN THE AUDIENCE IF I DID THAT, BUT. COMMISSIONER MY HAIR FOR MAYOR MYER. A QUICK DISCUSSION ON NO. URGENT. SURE. SURE. THANK YOU, MYSTIC. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR WAY WE STARTED GETTING INTO IT WITH THE LAST ONE. I KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH MR KOWALSKI'S COMMENTS AROUND THREE COMMUNITY SERVICE, THIS DEPARTMENT AND NEEDING A LITTLE BIT MORE. SUPPORT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO HAVE. I MEAN, NOW THAT WE'RE FINALLY HAVING IT'S OUT IN THE REAL WORLD, THE ORDINANCES OUT THERE. WE'RE STARTING TO SEE HOW IT'S. WORKING AND SO IF STAFF DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DEPUTIZED ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT. UM YOU KNOW, MY NAIVE VIEW OF IT IS THAT YOU KNOW YOU SHOULDN'T. IT SHOULDN'T BE A QUESTION OF DEPUTIZING. IT'S JUST PLAYING ON THE PAPER. YOU COMPLY OR YOU DON'T AND HERE ARE THE PUNISHMENTS IF YOU DON'T UM FOR ME, THOUGH THE CONCERN IS YOU KNOW? THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WE'RE DISCUSSING THE GREENMARKET. WE'RE DISCUSSING, POTENTIALLY USING NOT USING, BUT WE'RE DISCUSSING. NON COMPLIANCE WITH OUR PLASTIC ORDINANCE FOR THE GREENMARKET AS CONSTITUTING MATERIAL BREACH OF CONTRACT GETTING OUT OF A CONTRACT. YET. THAT GUY DAVIS? JUST A WEEK OR TWO AGO. WE HAD AN EVENT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, CITY ORGANIZED AND A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY EVENT, AND THERE WAS VIOLATION OF OUR SINGLE USE PLASTIC ORDINANCE THERE AND SO. I WANT US TO BE CLEAR ABOUT. WE GOTTA APPLY EQUALLY FOR EVERYBODY, OR WE NEED TO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MODIFY IT IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THERE ARE BROKE A CARVE OUTS THAT WE IDENTIFY AS APPROPRIATE. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. THAT YOU KNOW, NO ORGANIZATION OR USER OF A PUBLIC. ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY BE PENALIZED. WE COULD BREAK A CONTRACT, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW TOTALLY WITHIN OUR RIGHT, BUT WE WON'T APPLY IT THE SAME WAY TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW. NO IT'S NOT A FAILURE. WE'RE LEARNING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO THIS. WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS REALISTIC. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP. CERTAINLY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GO. YOU KNOW HOW WE ADDRESSED THIS, UM. IT MIGHT CONSTITUTE US NEEDING TO CONSIDER. MAYBE DIVIDING OUR APPROACH INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS OF OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES. AND PERHAPS INVESTING. SOME CITY RESOURCE IS IN PERHAPS ACQUIRING SOME MATERIALS THAT WE CAN HAVE ON HAND FOR CERTAIN EVENTS THAT WE COULD EITHER SELL OR GIVE TO ORGANIZATIONS TO USE UM. THAT'S MY OPENING SALVO. I'LL GO FROM THERE. VERY GOOD INTRO. I LIKE. CONVERSATION STARTER. IT'S SOMETHING THAT Z NEEDED TO BE HAD. YOU KNOW. NOW IT'S. ONLY 21 ORDINANCES ENACTED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. MCDONNELL SO.
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YOU KNOW WHAT THE SPECIAL EVENTS? IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU IT'S YOU HAVE THE VENDORS, WHICH IN SOME CASES ARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, AND DON'T KNOW IT IS. OF COURSE, THE ORGANIZER MAY NOT TELL THEM AND, OF COURSE. THEY'RE COMING IN.THEY'RE TRAVELING AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP ON A FRIDAY MORNING OR FRIDAY AFTERNOON FOR EVENING FOR A SATURDAY EVENT, AND THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. ALL THEY'VE GOT IS A GIANT STACK OF STYROFOAM CONTAINER STRAWS. EVERYTHING THAT IS IN VIOLATION. SO THAT IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR THE I THINK FOR THE VENDOR, SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY WE GOT TO GET THE ORGANIZER'S ON BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOTIFYING THE VENDORS. IN ADVANCE SO THAT THEY CAN PREPARE FOR IT. SECOND THING IS, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE ANY CARVE OUTS. IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ORDINANCE. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE TREATED THE SAME. NO, IT'S OH, WELL. IT'S A CITY OF STUART EVENT, SO WE AND THIS ORGANIZATION DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY OR THIS ONE HAS TROUBLE ORGANIZING OR WHATEVER THE REASON IS.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT. IT'S NOT EQUAL. IT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PROBABLY FROM A LITIGATION POINT OF VIEW. PROBABLY MAKING EQUAL PROTECTION ARGUMENT. UM AND FINALLY. ABSOLUTELY I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEND. CITY RESOURCE IS ON HELPING, YOU KNOW, SO THAT ONE GROUP OR ANOTHER COMPANY BECAUSE THAT AGAIN YOU KNOW, WE'RE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS WERE SAYING, OH, YEAH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA HELP THIS GROUP, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HELP THIS GROUP. WE'LL ALL THE NOT FOR PROFITS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT PUT ON EVENTS. THEY'RE ALL SCRAMBLING FOR RESOURCE IS AND WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA TELL THE ARTS COUNCIL THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANY EVENTS, BUT WE'RE GONNA TELL, RIGHT.
ANOTHER GROUP, YOU KNOW, STUART MAIN STREET THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING. THAT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT RIGHT AND BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY ON BUYING.
UH OH. COMPOSTABLE STRAWS AND FOOD CONTAINERS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR SO FOR ONE ORGANIZATION AND OR ANY ORGANIZATION FAR AS THAT GOES, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. IF WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS ORDINANCE. WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED EQUITABLY EQUALLY TO EVERYONE. E WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING. UM CITY STORE DID NOT DOES NOT ORGANIZE THEM. OKAY. EVENT THAT'S ORGANIZED ASIS. WE PROVIDE A GRANT FOR THEM TO DO IT, BUT WE DON'T ORGANIZE THE EVENT. OKAY, SO NOW, THANK YOU, MR CROSS KEY WHEN PEOPLE GET FILL UP THEIR APPLICATION, DON'T THEY GET A COPY OF THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS ATTACHED? YES, MA'AM. THEY DO. I MEAN, THEY GET AN EXPLANATION. THEY GET AN ENTIRE BOOKLET ON WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH. UM ONCE THE CITY AND TRUST ME THAT LIKE THERE AGAIN WE KNEW THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, STARTING RIGHT UP. WE'RE STILL IN JANUARY, SO IT'S A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THIS TOPIC. UM. ONCE WE GET ROLLING POST CODED, WE HAVE 300 EVENTS A YEAR BETWEEN, UM. UH OCTOBER THROUGH MOTHER'S DAY. IN ORDER FOR STAFF TO BE AT EVERY ONE OF THESE EVENTS ON EVERY WEEKEND OF EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR. IT DOES BECOME A SCHEDULING PROBLEM. I'M USUALLY FLOATING AROUND SOMEWHERE SOME WAY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE EVENTS, BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT AT A MALL. SO IT'S A MATTER OF REALLY HAVING EYES ON THOSE EVENTS WITH A PAPER IN HAND. IT'S GOING TO CITE THEM FOR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LIKE, WHO OR WHAT DEPARTMENT THAT FALLS UNDER. AND WE SUPPLY THE GARBAGE. A RESPECTABLE AT REDWOOD DID THE COVERAGE OF THE GREEN ONE, AND THERE'S LIKE FOUR OF EACH THERE, AND WHEN I GOT IT, I GOT A CANDLE. SHE PUT IT IN A BAG AND MADE ME A DRINK. I HAD TWO PLASTIC. I MEAN, I DIDN'T IT WAS IT WAS PAPER. THEN I WENT OVER TO GET CHEESE. AND HE WRAPPED IT IN PAPERS. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT JUST LOOKING AT HIM, BUT EVERYTHING'S THERE FOR THEM TO TRASH CANS TOE TO PUT IT, PUT IT IN. WE DO A LOT FOR THE PEOPLE REALLY DO ESPECIALLY, UM THAT GUY, THE BATHROOMS, WE CLEAN HIM UP, TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING AND PUT OUT OF THOSE. DARVISH CAMES OUT THERE AND MAKE IT REAL EASY FOR YOU.
ELECTRICITY'S THANK YOU DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME. BUT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT VIOLATE I THOUGHT THE PENALTY WAS YOU COULDN'T HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL EVENT. YEAH. THAT
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BRINGS UP A GOOD QUESTION. IF FOR EXAMPLE, ARTS FEST SIGNATURE EVENT DOWNTOWN STUART, THEY VIOLATE IT BECAUSE OF AH OUT OF TOWN VENDOR OR WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE THEIR EVENT. NEXT YEAR. GROTESQUE WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD.BASICALLY THE MISSIONARY MEYER WISELY BROUGHT UP. IS AN OKAY DAY DID NOT MEET OUR ORDER AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE BOARD DEBATED THAT SUBJECT IN GREAT DETAIL. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, IT WASN'T OVERLOOKED. IT WAS DISCUSSED AND RAISED AS A. CONTEMPLATED ISSUE OF WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF SOMEBODY VIOLATES? I ACTUALLY THINK THE ARTS COUNCIL WAS THE EXAMPLE. YEAH, THEY WERE. SO RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU 100% COMMISSION MCDONNELL. WE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING OUT. OR DEVOTING TAXPAYER MONEY TO PICKING FAVORITES OF ONE OR THE OTHER. I. STOP AT THAT POINT, BUT I ALSO THINK WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS WHERE WE SHOULD DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE OPTIONS. POTENTIAL VENDORS. AS TO WHERE THEY CAN PURCHASE. 5000 TO GO CLAM SHELLS THAT MEET OUR CODE, AND WE MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESEARCH THAT AND FIND A BETTER DEAL THAN THAN OTHERS AND I COULD PROVIDE THAT IN OUR LITERATURE, BUT I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT. UM WHAT NO. WE NEED TO STAND UNIFIED AND MAKE SURE EVERY EVENT IS FOLLOWING OUR ORDINANCE, AND THAT'S TO GO CONTAINERS ON CITY PERMITTED PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF THE LARGEST VIOLATIONS AND WE'RE ALL THERE TO SEE IT. THANK YOU. AND WE KNOW THAT THE STATE HAS OTHER THINGS WITH REGARD TO STAR FORM THAT PEOPLE ARE SOMETIMES CONFUSED. I'M GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THEN I'M GONNA HAVE MY SEE THAT MR UM OH. IT'S THE WHOLE GUARD IS UP FRONT. SO, UM MR CITY MANAGER. DO YOU THINK THAT AND MR CROSS KEY IF WE EITHER KEEP PUTTING OUT NOTICES? UM MAYBE ON THE UTILITY BILL ONE MONTH PLUS, TALK TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE. ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD PREVIOUS EVENTS AT THE CITY. MAYBE SEND HER EMAIL BLAST OR SOMETHING. OR MAYBE HAVE A ZOOM. UM WORKSHOP TO TRY TOE. BEEF. YOU KNOW, UM PUMP UP OUR OR SINGLE USE PLASTIC ORDINANCE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. INVITE PEOPLE INVITE BUSINESSES INVITE WHOEVER JUST SO THAT IT'S OUT THERE. IT'S NEWS. IT'S GETTING OUT WHICH GETS ME TO MR WHOLE GUARD. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER'S BEEN HOLDING OUT FOR THE RECORD TOE. HOPEFULLY JUST A CLARIFYING POINT WHEN WE PASSED THE ADOPTED, THE TWO COMMISSION ADOPTED THE TWO ORDNANCES BACK IN 2019. THE FIRST ORIGIN SEARCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL EVENTS ON OUR PROPERTY. THE SECOND, THE LATTER OF WHICH IS STRAWS JUST GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY PLASTIC STRAWS, THE PLASTIC STRAW OR DANCE THE TEETH THAT WE'RE PUTTING. THAT PROVISION HAD TO DO WITH THE FISCAL PENALTY. A CITATION ALL THAT. FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS IN OUR PROPERTY. THE REASON ALL OF THAT WASN'T THIS IS NECESSARILY PRIORITIZED BECAUSE JUST LIKE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE ITSELF UNTO UNTO ITSELF, THE REMEDY THE CLASSIC REMEDY IS IF AN ORGANIZATION IS HAVING A SPECIAL EVENT THAT'S NOT AUTHORIZED OR HAS ACTIVITIES THERE ARE AUTHORIZED IN THAT SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION. THE EVENT WITH EITHER A BE COMPLETELY DISPERSED, POLICE COULD COULD DISPERSE THE EVENT.
OR B, WE COULD SAY SHAME ON YOU AND THEN NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE EVENTS IN THE CITY AGAIN. IN THE CASE OF WHEN WE DISCUSSED AND CERTAINLY SEE ATTORNEYS CITY MANAGER REMEMBER THIS WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE OPTION OF OUR CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS WITH OUR LICENSEES, WE PUT A NEW LANGUAGE. IN FACT, WITH THE GREENMARKET BEING ONE OF MOST RECENT WE AMENDED THAT LANGUAGE FOR THE COMMISSION IN ORDER TO GIVE IT TEETH WHERE IF THEY IN ANY WAY, UM, CONTINUOUSLY HAD THIS THESE PLASTIC OR THESE? OTHER FORMS OF. WHAT I CALL THIS CONTRABAND NOW, IF THEY HAD THAT IN THEIR EVENT THAN WE HAD A MATERIAL BREACH OF THE AGREEMENT, AND THAT WAS THE INTENT OF PUTTING THAT NEW LANGUAGE IN THERE BECAUSE IF WE HAVE OUR OWN CONTRACTS WITH THE WEEKEND JUST CANCEL THE CONTRACT. THAT'S AN EASY REDRESS. SO WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT
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LEGAL REDRESS IS FOR EACH OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT WAS REALLY IDENTIFIED WITH THE USE. WITH THE INTENDED USE. SO THAT WAS THE INTENT MOVING FORWARD. IN THIS CASE, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE GREENMARKET. WE? IT'S ONLY SUCCESSFUL AS LONG AS WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE, BUT WITH SPECIAL EVENTS THAT OCCUR REGULARLY, THERE SHOULD BE NO EXCUSE FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HERE IN THE CITY, DOING IT EVERY WEEK. IT'S KIND OF A FOOL US ONCE.SHAME ON ON YOU, YOU KNOW, FULLEST TWICE. SHAME ON ME. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARDS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH EACH OF THE TWO ORDINANCES SO. HOPE THAT BRINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION. OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT WE SEARCH HAS ALSO BEEN NOTED THAT MY RECOLLECTION AND AGAIN I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME EITHER. WAS THAT IT ALSO GAVE US THE ABILITY TO REDUCE AND OR RESCIND THE SECURITY DEPOSIT. YEAH. I MEAN, ERIC, I DO RECALL THAT, MIKE, BUT I THINK REALLY, WHAT IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO IS THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PERMIT THESE EVENTS. IT'S STILL HAS YET TO BE SEEN. IS THAT WHO SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR GOING OUT TO EVERY EVENT AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE THE PLASTIC POLICE? NOW, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S ME. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD GRADUATIONS, JIM. YEAH, SO AMUSING AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO DO IT AND WHETHER OR NOT A BEAT RECREATION OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR WHOMEVER THAT THAT ORGANIZATION HAS NEVER BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IT IS ME. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE 300.
I'M NOT GONNA BE A 300 EVENTS. SO AS IT RELATES TO THAT. YOU ALSO ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE ON SAFE. OKAY? YOU'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. GET READY FOR THE ARGUMENTS. THAT WASN'T MY PLASTIC GOT AT OF THAT IT OUT IT OUT IT OUT OF THAT. I MEAN, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING IN HERE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPLAINING TO YOU GUYS THAT. YOU KNOW THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF SOME SORT. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IS CLEAN AND EASY IS JUST, YOU KNOW. THAT'S A PIECE OF PLASTIC. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO YOUR EVENT AGAIN. THERE'S GONNA BE DRAMA. THANK YOU, MISTER. MISTER GIRLS KISS SO ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S THE WARNING OPTION. IN THE CURRENT ORDNANCE, MR MARTEL. OR SOMEBODY IF THE PRESIDENT THE WARNING TAKES PLACE WHEN YOU FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT, OKAY, YOU WALK IN AND YOU PAY A SECURITY DEPOSIT IN. YOU SIGNED THE APPLICATION THAT SAYS YOU WILL AGREE NOT TO HAVE ANY OF THESE TYPES OF PLASTICS OF THE EVENT. SO, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE THE BIGGER PARTNER HAVE THE ORDINANCE UP RIGHT NOW. VENDORS YES. THANK YOU, MR UM, SECTION SECTION. YEAH. THIS IS ORDINANCE 24 13 FROM NOW, 2019. OKAY. SO SECTION 20-2 OF SEVEN IS ENFORCEMENT PENALTIES. HEY! ANY PERMIT ISSUED PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE INFORMED OF THE ORDINANCE, HOWEVER, SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM ENFORCEMENT SO THAT WAS CONTEMPLATING BEFORE BEFORE ANYTHING THAT WAS BOOKED BEFORE WE PASSED IT. THE FOLLOWING CODE VIOLATION SHALL BE ISSUED BY THE CITY FOR A VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE, A AH! FIRST VIOLATION. THE VIOLATOR SHALL PAY A FINE OF $250 2ND VIOLATION. THE VIOLATOR SHALL PAY A FINE OF $500 3RD VIOLATION IN ANY SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION TO VIOLATOR SHALL PAY A FINE OF $1000. ANY VIOLATION. ANY VIOLATION SHALL SERVICE GROUNDS TO REVOKE THE DEPOSIT FOR THE PERMANENT EVENT. VIOLATION MAY ALSO SERVE AS GROUNDS FOR REFUSAL TO ISSUE A PERMIT FOR THE EVENT OR THE APPLICANT. FOR ANY EVENT IN THE FUTURE, SO IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC REVOCATION. IT MAY SERVE HIS GROUNDS, SO IT IS A LITTLE KIND OF. YOU KNOW, PINKY CHOOSY, BUT HERE IT SPECIFIES THE FIRST VIOLATIONS TO 52ND WAS 503RD AND SUBSEQUENT WAS 1000. THANK YOU WITH A DEPOSIT REVOKED. THANK YOU. SO MY CONCERN IS AND THIS IS 2021. WE LIKE 2020, BUT IT'S GONE. SO WE HAVE 2021. WE HAVE ONE OF OUR FIRST EVENTS BEING THE MLK EVENT ON THE CITY PARK AT 10 STREET. I KNOW THAT THE. KIWANIS PARK IS VERY BUSY.
I'M NOT SURE WHO IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVING BIRTHDAY PARTIES OR OTHER EVENTS THERE, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE ARTS FISTS COMING UP. I THINK THE SECOND WEEK IN FEBRUARY. SO MY THING IS, I SEE MR CROSS KID'S POINT OF VIEW IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT. UM. WHEN DO WE BECOME ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS CITY ATTORNEY WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A GREAT BIG EVENT, ONE WEEKEND, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE ALL THE WHATEVER PING CUTS ARE REAL. HOWEVER, THE BIRD PEOPLE
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HAVE AH HAVEN'T EVENT AND THEN NOBODY GOES OUT. AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK SOMETHING HAPPENS AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE EVENTS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE TARGETED. WHAT ONE DOES IT BECOME OUR PREACHER? WHEN DOES MR ARE WE ASSURED THAT MR KOWALSKI AND HIS TEAM OR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR COMMUNITY SERVICE IS, UM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WHICH IS CALLED ENFORCEMENT.WHEN DO WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EACH PERSON OR SHOULD WE TELL THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE GONNA THERE'S GONNA BE AN HOUR DURING YOUR TIME WHEN YOU'RE HERE WHERE SOMEBODY'S DEFINITELY GOING TO COME AND LOOK AT YOUR EVENT OR LOOK AT THE BOOTS THAT YOU HAVE SUBLET TO OTHER PEOPLE. UM AND WE MAY NOT MADE WE WILL BE ENFORCING OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH RELATES TO YOUR ACTIVITY, YES. YEAH. I KNOW THAT IT'S LATE. WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE NOT ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS UNTIL WE ARE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THE WAY IT WORKS. IS THIS A POLICE OFFICER DRIVING DOWN THE STREET? DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE EVERY SINGLE CAR SPEEDING A TICKET. BUT IF HE OBSERVES THE CAR SPEEDING AND GIVES THEM A TICKET, AZIZ LONG AS IT'S NOT BECAUSE THESE BEING ARBITRARY AND SELECTING THAT PERSON FOR A NON PROTECTED REASON. IT'S TOTALLY LEGAL, JUST AS JIM SAID. HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AT EVERY SINGLE EVENT. BUT IF A REPRESENTATIVE OF STUART GOES TO AN EVENT, AND THEY'RE VIOLATING THE ORDINANCE ANYWAY, LET'S CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE FROM PLASTIC TO IT'S AN EVENT AND THEY'RE SERVING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. JACK DANIELS. IS THAT GOING TO BE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS? IF WE DON'T CHECK EVERY EVENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT, OF COURSE NOT. IT'S JUST EASIER TO SAY IT'S A VIOLATION RIGHT AWAY. SO THE QUESTION IS. WHEN DOES THE COMMISSION WANT TO START ENFORCING IT? AND HOW BADLY DO THEY WANT TO REVOKE THE PERVY SECURITY DEPOSIT? SO WHAT IF WE GIVE OUT WRITTEN WARNINGS TO KNOWN VIOLATORS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE RECENT PAST? MM HMM. MOVING FORWARD. WE STRESS COMPLIANCE.
ON CITY PROPERTY WITH ANY OF THESE EVENTS. MM. WHICH START ENFORCING ADAM THERE THIS COMMISSION MCDONALD I AGREE WITH MERIT SUFFER. ONE MORE THING IS RATHER I THINK IT'S KIND OF HARD TO LOOK BACK AND GO BACK AND SAY. YOU DID SOMETHING A MONTH AGO, AND WE GIVE YOU A WARNING FOR IT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A HERE. THEY STILL WARNING A PERIOD OF LIKE 30 DAYS OR WE HAD A TWO YEAR THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE ORDER. IT WAS THE FIRST TWO YEARS I WASN'T HERE WHEN YOU DID THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ON THAT SO BUT IF NO, BUT GOING BACK AND GOING BACK IN TIME. I THINK IT'S THAT'S A CHALLENGE. JUST GO TO THE THAT PICK ON THE GREEN MARKET AND SAY, GO TO THE GREENMARKET FOLKS AND SAY THERE WAS A VENDOR HERE, THIS GUY, ONE OF THE GUY'S HEAD. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DO THAT VERSUS GOING. WE HAVE TO KIND OF HAVE A FORD LOOKING APPROACH TO THE WARNINGS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. WELL, UH, I THINK I'VE ONLY HAD THE ONE EVENT AND I MEAN WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH THEM DIRECTLY EXACTLY THAT AND WE HAVE AN ADDRESS THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. THE ONE EVENT I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DID NOT GO TO AND I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT OR HOW WAS THE BOAT SHOW?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.