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MORE TONE ON THE CITY ATTORNEY WE HAVE AH, A LITTLE BIT OF AH, UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT BECAUSE OF BOTH OUR CHAIR AND VICE HERE, WE'RE NORMALLY HERE. COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE TO RUN THE MEETING. SO WHAT I THINK I'LL DO IS START THE MEETING. AND GO THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY IS REORGANIZATION MEETING SO WE'LL GET THERE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO ON. ANY OF IT.

I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND ASKED, THE CLERK WILL PLEASE CALL ROLL. CARES DRUM.

BOARD MEMBER BRUMFIELD WASN'T REMEMBER DAILY VEGA HERE. REMEMBER LORENE HERE? REMEMBER MASSING. REMEMBER MOTHERS. REMEMBER VITALI HERE? THE NEXT THING A ZIFF YOU COULD STAND UP AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG THAT IT'S BIG AMERICAN. LIKE THE WITNESS STAND. ONE DAYS. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THE NEXT BATTER ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE ANNUAL BOARD REORGANIZATION MEETING.

[ANNUAL BOARD REORGANIZATION]

OPTIONS FIRST OF ALL, I'M SORRY BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THAT. I CAN'T HAVE YOU GUYS VOTE. UNTIL WE SWEAR ON OUR NEW MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD. WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. THEY'RE JUST STARTING. AND IF THE BOARD MEMBERS COULD PLEASE STAND UP? AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU CHRISTINA, CAUSE YOU'RE NOT SORRY. OKAY, UM DO YOU? I'LL SAY TO YOU EACH AND AT THE END INDIVIDUALLY, BUT DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT, HONOR, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA? AND THAT YOU WERE DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF STUART, AND THAT YOU WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF STUART LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY ON WHICH YOU'RE ABOUT TO ENTER, SO HELP YOU GOD. BROOKFIELD. I DID. SORRY I DO MISS MY TELLY. I DO. THANK YOU. AND WELCOME ABOARD. OKAY NOW BEFORE WE START THIS ANNUAL BOARD REORGANIZATION MEETING.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS EXPERIENCE RUNNING BOARDS BEFORE? ON THIS. OKAY SO KELLY AND JACKIE BOTH DO AND CHRISTINE HAS BEEN AROUND AS WELL. WHAT I NEED NOW IS A MOTION TO A POINT. SOMEONE AND BY THE WAY, YOU COULD POINT SOME OF THAT'S NOT HERE, TOO, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO GET AROUND MEETING AS CHEER FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. ONLY THAT WANTS TO DO WHAT I WANT TO VOLUNTEER. YOU'RE WELCOME TO TELL THE REST OF THE BOARD TO GET EMOTION WILL MOVE OVER. ALSO. SO BRIAN IS IT'S OVER. WELL, HIS TERM TECHNICALLY ENDED IN DECEMBER.

THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING IN JANUARY, AND VICKI, I CANCELED SO THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE NEXT MEETING. SO HIS TERM WOULD BE OVER. HE COULD BE EXTENDED. HAVE SOME OF THE MOTION FOR RYAN. OR SOMEONE KNEW COULD DO IT AND EVEN NO MATTER WHAT RYAN'S THAT COULD BE THE CHAIR TODAY. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT SOMEONE HIS CHAIR. IT'S FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S A PROCEDURAL JUST IT'S READING THIS PAPER THAT I'M NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DO IT. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. I'VE DONE IT MANY TIME PROMOTION. AND I NEED A SECOND BY SECOND. HAVING A MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OF ANY BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE VOTE? SEEING NONE OF THEIR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON KELLY SERVICES CHAIRED BEING DONE. ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED. MY JOB HERE IS DONE.

NOW. I'M GOING TO ASK KELLY TO LOSE TO THE CENTER SEAT. YEAH. SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE ME A THOROUGH ONE. CITY ATTORNEY. WE STILL NEED A VICE CHAIR. YOU'RE NEXT. ANYBODY HAVE EMOTION FOR A VICE CHAIR? NOMINATE MR VEGA. EXCEPT WE HAVE TO VOTE. DON'T FORGET. WE HAVE EMOTION. A SECOND. I THINK IT'S GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OH SORRY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? HAPPY TO GIVE ANY KIND. NO. IT'S CURIOUS WELL, SO WE WOULD MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. I'M ALSO GOING TO BE HANDING EACH ONE OF THE YEAR. GOOD. S O. THE NEXT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE MEMBER MINUTES FROM THE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

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DECEMBER 10TH MEETING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTE THAT WERE PROVIDED BEFORE? YOU WANNA MAKE ME MOTION TO APPROVE MAKING MOST OF YOUR PROOF? WE HAVE A SECOND 2ND EVERYONE IN FAVOR. NO COMMENT. ONE IN FAVOR. AYE. THE NEXT THING BEFORE WE APPROVE

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

THE AGENDA, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT MOVING THE AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH AND ADOPT NUMBER TWO TO COME FIRST AND NUMBER ONE TO GO SECOND, SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. WE NEED A PROOF UP. YOU WOULD NORMALLY APPROVE THE AGENDA BASED OF THAT, OR YOU NEED EMOTION FROM SOMEBODY TO SWITCH HIM BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO SWITCH THE AGENDA? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SWITCHED THE AGENDA ITEMS SO THAT WE CAN GET TO NUMBER TWO FENCE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT? RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR. HURRY. IT'S ALSO YOUR FIRST MEETING NORMALLY AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEM, SO IT'S NOT ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE US TONIGHT. IT COULD BE. SOMEBODY WANTS. TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD THAT WE GET. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT? FANTASTIC WAY. DON'T

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS (3 Minutes Max.)]

HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. RIGHT NOW. JUST MOVE ON WONDERFUL. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ON

[COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS]

AN URGENT HI AGENDA ITEMS ANYONE NO, NO. THAT'S IT. OKAY. NOW DO WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHERS

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ORDINANCE No. 2460-2021; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, REZONING FROM (R-1) SINGLE FAMILY TO (R-2) DUPLEX ON THE CITY’S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR PROPERTY TOTALING 0.75 ACRES, OWNED BY 245 ST LUCIE, LLC AND 257 4WINDS, LLC, LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ST LUCIE BOULEVARD AND SE FOURWINDS DRIVE; BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; DECLARING THE PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PROVIDING FOR ACCEPTANCE BY THE APPLICANT AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

 

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BEFORE US? FANTASTIC. YES. GOOD EVENING. L P A TOM REED, SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. HIS FIRST ITEM IS CALLED FOUR WINDS AT ST LUCIE. IT IS A REZONING FROM OUR ONE ZONING TOE ARE TWO ZONING. APPLICANT IS DUET PRICE. THE COMPANY NAME IS TO 45 ST LUCIE ALL SEE AND 2 57 4 WINDS LLC. SO THE SUBJECT SIDE IS ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S ON STATE LOOSE OFF FROM ST LUCIE BOULEVARD. IN BETWEEN FOUR WINDS DRIVE AND MONTEREY AVENUE. IT'S CONSISTENT TO EXISTING PARCELS EQUALING 0.75 ACRES. THEY? BOTH PARCELS HAVE AN EXISTING HOME ON THEM NOW. THAT ARE BEING INHABITED. UM AND MR PRICE, I BELIEVE IS RENTING BOTH OF THEM AT THIS POINT. SO IF WE STARTED THE FUTURE LAND USE, IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THIS SUPPORTS, UH THE ACTUAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THAT EXIST ON THIS ON THE SITE NOW. EXISTING ZONING IS OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY. THE SURPRISE PROPOSES TONIGHT TO CHANGE THIS OWNING TWO ARE. TOO THE POSSIBILITIES WITH THE R TWO ZONING, UM, START WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY OPTION. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OR SITE LAYOUT OF FIVE LOTS. OF WHICH COULD BE DEVELOPED. IF APPROVED ARE SO IF THE ZONING HAS CHANGED TONIGHT, MR PRICE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. APPLY FIRST CONSTRUCTION PERMITS. THE APPLICATION WOULD BE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT TONIGHT'S REZONING IS NOT APPROVING ANY DWELLING OR ANY STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST SIMPLY A REZONING.

ONCE IT'S REZONED THE APPLICANT MR PRICE CAN APPLY FOR A. FOR INSTANCE, A TWO STORY COTTAGE HOME THAT WOULD MEET THE ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY SETBACKS OF 25 IN THE FRONT. SEVEN HALF FEET ON THE SIDE AND 15 IN THE REAR IS YOU CAN SEE. THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ROOM IN THE FRONT AND BACK ON A TWO STORY OPTION. YOU COULD APPLY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ARE SINGLE FAMILY, ONE STORY STRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO HOLD THOSE SAME SETBACKS. HOWEVER HE COULD ALSO

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APPLY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE. WITH ONLY 15 FT FRONT. STEP BACK IF HIS DESIGN INCLUDED A FRENCH PORCH ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONT FACADE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SUBJECT. PRODUCT PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY CLOUDED AS 50 FT WIDE LOTS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AND READ. THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL LOTS OF RECORD THAT WERE PLANTED IN 1925. ALSO.

STAFF HAS, UM CREATED AND THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED AN ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES OR ALLOWS FOR A MINIMUM WIDTH OF OUR TWO LOTS OF 50 FT. AND THIS IS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY OPTION ON LEE. AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD MATCH THE UNDERLYING EXISTING QUITE A LOT OF RECORD. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO ITS ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 54 2020. IT WAS DESIGNED OR CREATED FOR OUR TWO AND OUR 3 50 FT WIDE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. YOU CAN SEE THAT MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 5000. THE MINIMUM LOT WITS AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER AND ACTUALLY WHAT THE EXISTING LOT OF RECORDS ARE THEY ARE, IN FACT, 50 FT WIDE. MAXIMUM PERVIOUS SURFACE REMAINS THE SAME AT 50 50. UM. AND THEN AGAIN, THE SETBACKS THAT I WENT OVER EARLIER ARE 25 IN THE FRONT. 5 FT ON THE SIDE FOR A ONE AND TWO STORY. ACTUALLY COULD DO THREE STORIES THAT WOULD HOLD 7.5 FT. MINIMUM REAR SETBACK IS 15 FT. MAXIMUM BUILDING HIGH 35. 35 FT. AND THAT AGAIN IS FOR THE ART TO ON OUR THREE, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND HAS BEEN CODIFIED AND IT EXIST IN OUR CODE. WITH THAT. I'M GONNA HOLD OFF RECOMMENDATION. AND MR FREEMAN. CHAIR KEVIN FREEMAN PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD. I JUST LIKE TO ADD A BIT OF CLARIFICATION TO THE PROCEEDINGS TONIGHT. TONIGHT IS A HEARING BEFORE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD. IS WHATEVER APPROVAL OR DENIAL WILL GO THROUGH TO THESE CITY COMMISSION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AFTER TONIGHT'S HEARING, SO THE REZONING DOES NOT OCCUR. TONIGHT'S HEARING. IT'S MADE A RECOMMENDATION MADE ON THAT. IF YOU COULD ALSO CLARIFY. THAT THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED AGAINST THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LOW DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE. IS APPROPRIATE.

THE DENSE THAT PARTICULAR LAND USE ALLOWS ALL ONE A ONE OR TWO ZONING TO BE APPLIED TO THAT.

CONTROLLING DIMENSION TO THAT FUTURE AND USE IS THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WHICH IS ALLOWED ON THAT BY RIGHT SO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS A LOT IN THE CITY HAS A FUTURE AND USE. UNDER THAT LAND USE THEY HAVE AH, RIGHT. TO DEVELOP A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THERE, AND IN THIS CASE RIGHT OFF THE LOW DENSITY FUTURE. ANGIE'S ALLOWS THE RIGHT OF SIX UNITS.

ON THAT. PARTICULAR AREA. NOW WHAT? WE ARE LOOKING WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS A MOVE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS ENCOURAGED. AMENDING THEIR LOCAL CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. TO ALLOW PROPERTY OWNERS. TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OR TO UTILIZE THE UNDERLYING LOTS OFF RECORD, WHICH THEY WHICH ARE UNDERLYING EVERY SINGLE MOST LOTS WITHIN THE CITY. ON THE HISTORIC LOTS IN THIS CASE IN THIS PARTICULAR STREET, THERE ARE 50 FT WIDE LOTS. THOSE COMPLY WITH THE CITY COMMISSIONS. MOVEMENT TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OFF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ON TO ENCOURAGE THAT. THEATRICAL HAS COME FORWARD TONIGHT ON WANTS TO USE THE EXISTING UNDERLYING LOTS TO DO THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE OFF TO ZONING. IT WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE OTHERS. OH NING'S AVAILABLE IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE YEAH. WITH

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THAT THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION. THE AFRICAN IS HERE TO GIVE HIS PRESENTATION IF WE CAN RE ASKING QUESTIONS NOW WE CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM. WORK. OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD NOW, THAT'S FINE. OKAY, SO. THE NEXT STREET OVER THOSE AIR ALREADY, ZONE ZONE GUARD, TOO. THAT CRAFT ON SAILFISH. JUST PULL UP THE ZONING MAPS SO THAT WE CANNOT SEE THEIR FACES DOWN DARK, TOO, AND IT'S DUE PLACE. RIGHT. SO THE PROPOSED THE PROPOSED CHANGES CIRCLED IN R SQUARED IN RED. AND IT CURRENTLY EXISTS IS OUR ONE.

THE PROPOSALS TO CHANGE OUR TO OUR THREE EXIST IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST. AND THEN THERE'S AN ART TO BLOT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MONTEREY. AND THEN WHERE? THE WHERE THE DUPLEXES ISN'T THAT SELFISH? DUPLEXES ALL RIGHT HERE THERE AND THEN THE BIG APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE NEXT TO THOSE ARE RIGHT. THERE ARE HERE AND THEN ALL OF THE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE ON THIS STREET ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND THEY'RE ALL ON 50 FT LOTS OR 100. LET THE APPLICANT IN THE AFRICANS PRESENTATION. HE GOES OVER THAT VERY THOROUGHLY. HE'S VERY THERE ANY INTEREST IN TURNING THE WHOLE STREET ARE TOO. THINK THAT A NOP SHIN THAT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PROPERTY OWNERS. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ARE TWO, THEN YOU CAN DO IT OR NOT DO IT. CORRECT? YES YOU EITHER STAY AND 100 FT LOT. IT DOESN'T USE BIG DOESN'T MANDATE THAT YOU GO AND DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNDER 50 FT WIDE LOT. IT JUST GIVES YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOTHING. OKAY? WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M FEELING BORED. AND DO WHAT PRICE AS YOU MENTIONED ON THE MANAGING MEMBER FOR THE TOOELE SEES HIMSELF ON MY WIFE ON HIS PROPERTY. HE'S A PROPERTY. I WILL TELL YOU. EIGHT YEARS AGO. BACK COMMUNITY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. OUT AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE I LIVED THERE, I'VE ALWAYS HAD A PLAN OF WHAT I ENVISIONED THIS COMMUNITY TO BE. AND I SEE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT IS CALLED THE MIDDLE OF THE MISSING MIDDLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WEARS. YOU GOT THE HOMES THAT ARE. BACK IN THE FIFTIES AND LOOK DATED THERE.

YOU KNOW THERE'S JUST MISSING. PIECE OFF THAT WINDOW AND THIS IS A SIZABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE AND I'M KIND OF MAINTAINED OVER TIME. TRY THIS WAY TO DO THIS, AND. I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF STAFF MANY TIMES IS TRYING TO GO THROUGH. WHAT I CAN'T CAN'T DO AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE TIME HAS GONE BY. I FEEL THIS IS WHAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE SO UH, UNDERSTANDING. SOME CITY HALL IS THERE A POINTER? WE ALL RIGHT HERE. CITY HALL. RIGHT? DIRECTLY EAST LAUNDRY. OFF IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR SNOW GARDNER, IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT OUT THE GATE WENT INTO SNOWBALL. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN I FOUND IS THAT THIS IS COUNTY, THIS IS COUNTY IN THE CITY JUST HAS SOME SLIVER. IT, Z THANKS FOR AN INTERESTING TAYLOR'S HOW DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRED OR. BESIDE ITSELF IS LOCATED OFF OFF. TAKE LUCY BOULEVARD. THIS IS FACE POSSIBLE TO THE SOUTH, FOUR WINDS DRIVE THAT RUNS. YOURSELF THINK LOSING EAST WEST.

SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE SIDE PROPER. EARLIER YOU WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE.

HERE THIS IS MULTI FAMILY ARE THREE. SINGLE FAMILY. OH, ANYTHING BACK HERE, MULTIFAMILY. IT'S JUST LIKE A QUICK OVERVIEW AND WE'LL GO INTO THE OTHER PROGRAMS. ON THE

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PROPERTY FOR THIS MEETING, I HAD TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS. RADIUS. GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.

MOST OF THE TIMES I FLY FOR YOU KNOW IT. APPLICATION TO SEE WHO I'M SAYING NOWT RESIDENTS YOU HAVE MAYBE 10 15. OVER 80 LETTERS I HAD TO SEND OUT WITHIN 300 FT OF THE SITE, SO THAT JUST GOES TO SELL THE DENSITY. HAS INSIDE CONDITIONS. THIS IS JUST GIVING IDEA WHAT THE PROPERTY IS TODAY. GOD HE MENTIONED EARLIER. SINGLE FAMILY HOME JUST SITS ON THE CORNER OF ST LUCIE LAST. THIS IS A NORTHEAST YOU NORTH. YOU FROM THE SOUTH. I'M FROM THE NORTH LOOKING SOUTH EAST OF THE SITE. EUROPE AGAIN SEEING THINGS ALL RIGHT. ARE NOT MY PROPERTY. THEY'RE THE PROFIT. INTRIGUE IN FACT, ABOUT THIS SITE TO IS THAT IT IS BORDERED ON THE REAR BY A 10 FT RIGHT AWAY. HE'S BEEN THAT RUNS THE LENGTH. SOMETHING WILL GO TO LATER.

YEAH. ON THOSE PROPERTIES. SO THESE THIS IS THE HOME THAT I LIVED IN.

ANYONE I LIVE HERE. HAVE THAT WHOLE AND LIKE YOU SAID. OVERTIME ON BREXIT IT ONE OF THE THINGS. RON IS THIS YOU KNOW, IT WAS BASICALLY IN THE HOPES OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I WOULD READ ABOUT THE SITE. ISN'T ANY BAD GOING BACK AGAIN, THIS TIME, LIKE AN OVERVIEW OFF OUR SURROUNDING USES. BEFORE MULTI FAMILY MULTI FAMILY EVERYTHING IN BLUE IS MULTI FAMILY. WHAT I DID HAVING CORRECT. I HAVE THIS A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY MULTI FAMILIES. ALL OF THIS IS SHOULD BE. MOVE TO THE NORTH BLUE TO THE DIRECT EAST OF THIS. HE'S IN RED, SO THAT'S ALL MULTI FAMILIES. THE UNDERLYING ZONING THERE TODAY. LITTLE STUFF, ALL OF IT ONCE AGAIN. YEAH. THERE ARE THREE ARE THREE THE ARE THREE. THIS IS MY SITE HERE, WHICH IS OUR ONE, SO IT'S KIND OF OVER TIME WITH HIS OWN KIND OF CREATED AN ISLAND FOR THIS OR YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY TWO VERY DENSE USES. AND THIS IS KNOWN AS AN ARM. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP, WHICH WAS ALSO SHOWN EARLY BY CAPT. YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU. NATIONAL CITY'S SUIT WAS ONLY MAP, WHICH SHOWS JUST KIND OF. IN THAT NAME. SITE HERE, BASED ON THE BAPTISTS ARE ONE ARE ONE AND THESE ARE OUR 1 50 FT LOPS. WHAT WAS INTERESTING, SO THIS IS ALSO IN OUR THREE ZONING MAP. THAT WAS NOT BY THE CITY'S STEWART KIND OF GIVEN IDEA ALL THE MOTIVE. HOW MANY SITES YOU HAVE TO TEND TO COMMUTE? THIS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVES YOU ALL THE JOURNAL JUST PERSON'S FAULT, DARFURIS. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THAT SIDE. THREE ARE THREE. ARE THREE AND THEN HERE'S THE SITE SITTING RIGHT HERE, SURROUNDED AND VOTES ON ALL THREE SIDES. FOUR SIZE BY ARTHUR. EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD FABRIC AS I MENTIONED BEFORE GOING BACK, THIS IS JUST GIVE ME A GENERAL IDEA. NO ONE IS THERE HAS NOT BEEN TO THE SIGHT.

YOU CANNOT HEAR. THIS IS A MULTI FAMILY HOME RESIDENTIAL. COMMUNITY THAT'S IT FOR THE SOUTH BESIDE DOMINION PROJECT AS JUST. SITE THIS IS THE MULTI FAMILY SIX UNIT APARTMENT PROPERTY THAT SISTER DIRECTLY NORTH BUTTING THE PROPERTY. SO NOT A PICTURE OF THE CORNER, SO THIS IS ALSO FOUR WINS THE SAME LUCY. UNIT MULTI FAMILY ARE THREE THAT. HE'S HARD TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. EAT INTO WHAT IT'S NOT ARBOR WEST AND FORMING. SO THIS IS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE BASICALLY THE SITE IS BUFFERED BY A MULTI FAMILY, BUT THEN OPERATION IS GONE. SO WHAT I REALLY SHOULD. NOW, ONCE AGAIN LOOKING AT EXISTING PROPERTY. REALLY? SIGHT AS YOU LOOK. WHAT'S THAT SOUND? YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS INSIDE AT THE END OF THE STREET. THIS IS TOWARDS THE VERY. NORTH OF THE PRODUCT OF DEAD ENDS BEFORE WAVES AND IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE NEW PRODUCTS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. EVEN THOUGH SO, MULTI FAMILY THERE A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH MORE ZERO UP YEAH.

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THIS JUST IN. THINGS I LOOK AT THIS. I WAS KEEPING I KIND OF LOOK AND SEE JUST THE VERNACULAR. LET'S NOT. I'M NOW GOING ON AS WE GO IF WE TALK ABOUT REDUCING NEIGHBORHOOD HERE WE HAVE DIRECT TO BE. ON THE CORNER OF FOUR WINS, AND THIS IS ALL SO LONG. YOU DON'T WANT AND THIS IS A BASICALLY IF YOUR FAMILY DO BLACKS FROM THAT SITE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A TRANSIENT USE THAT'S BEING UTILIZED. IT ALLOWS FOR THE RBL, WHICH TIMES STEPS UP TO EIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE REALLY DENSE USED REALLY? STUDIES PROPERTIES THAT'S AROUND ZONE ARE ONE TODAY. THIS IS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS PROPERTIES THAT SYSTEM A RARE 54 LOT. 50 IN THE4 BLOCKS IN THE FAMILY. YEAH. YOUR FAMILY AND A DUPLEX UNIT THAT ALSO SIX ON OPPOSITE SIDE OF MONTEREY HAVE PLOTS ALONG. THIS ONE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A COOL DEAL WHERE THEY HAVE A MAIN HOUSE AND THE COTTAGE. SITUATED ON THAT SITE, SO EVERYTHING IS FINE. HAVE ONE FOR ONE AS IT RELATES TO UNIT FOR COUNT FOR. YOUR PLAN USES WAS POINTED OUT BY STAFF. HE IS LITTLE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SITE HERE. IT'S KNOWN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. PROUD OF YOU TODAY TO GO FROM OUR ONES ARE TOO BUT THERE ARE ONE ARE TWO ZONE IN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEVIN EVERYONE HAS EXPLAINED. OLD IS NOT TO CHANGE AND GO OUTSIDE OFF YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLANT BECAUSE TO YOUR POINTS LIKE YOU. HIS NAME IS WHEN YOU WANT TO KEEP IT.

ANSWERED WITH OUR THREES AROUND. YOU'D BE LIKE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU GO TO OUR THREE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE MORE POLICE AND MORE COMPATIBLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IT'S STICKING WHAT I ENVISIONED. KEEPING IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE THAN USE PLAN UP TO LOOK AT OUR TWO ZONING, WHICH WORKS PERFECTLY FINE FOR ME FOR WHAT? I THINK IT WORKED. IT WAS ALSO POINTED OUT. THIS IS THE PLAN. ON IN 1925 26. SO BASICALLY, THIS IS. STORE PRESERVATION BOARD FROM ORANGE COUNTY AND WILLFUL FOR ME, I LOOK AT YOU START VALUE OF WHAT THESE COMMUNITIES ARE, AND THIS, I THINK WAS. OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO BASICALLY HERE YOU HAVE. EXISTING LOTS OF RECORD PLAT MAP, WHICH AT THIS TIME 50 FT LIFE, SO BASICALLY THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY OF ONE TIME WERE 50 FT. LOTS OF RECORD BUT OVER TIME AND DEVELOPMENT, THINGS HAVE CHANGED. HOWEVER, EVEN EXISTING TODAY WE HAVE YOU STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE HOMES WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY THAT ARE ON 54 LOTS. THIS IS LIKE HEAVEN OR WHEN EXPLAINED, IS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL IDEA TO LET SOMEONE UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD OCCUR ON THIS SITE. AS I LOOK AT THIS ONCE YOU GET A RESULT. BASED ON THE 15 FT LOT REQUIREMENTS AND HIS OWN IN DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND JUST LOOKED AT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE ON THE SITE. AS WITH EVERYTHING. THIS IS COMPLETELY CONSENSUAL, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE LIMITS OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THOSE SITES AND SETBACKS? THIS IS ALSO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY. SO WE TALK ABOUT A 50 FT LOT. LET'S UM ONCE AGAIN WE GO DOWN. WE'VE GOT IN TOTAL ABOUT. UM 17 HOME SITES. EIGHT OF THEM 50. FT BY 1 33 OVARIAN WITS OVERALL, THERE'S 23 PRIVATE LOTS JUST IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IMMEDIATE VICINITY WITH AT LEAST 19 OF THEM PLANTED AS 50 FT. LOTS TO YOUR POINT, MS CHRISTINA, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY. CONCEPTUAL VISION THAT I SEE. AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN YOU LOOKED THAT'S NOT A BARBER WEST IS, YOU KNOW THE VERNACULAR IS KIND OF MY VINTAGE IS SEEN. TAKING A LITTLE BIT ALWAYS HAPPENED IN STONE GARBER WEST ON A SMALLER SCALE AND CREATING THAT HERE ON THIS CORNER, BECAUSE AS PEOPLE ARE GOING AND MY GOAL IS TO CREATE AN ENTRY THAT AS YOU COME DOWN, GOING TOWARDS SNUG HARBOR, OR YOU'RE GOING TO INSIST, NOT OVER WEST AND GOING INTO THAT COMMUNITY, IT HELPS TO CHANGE AND CREATE MORE OF A MORE WELCOMING NEIGHBORHOOD FACTOR VERSUS WHAT IS THERE TODAY. I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS REALLY DANCE WITH THE HIGH CONDOMINIUMS AND ALL THAT. SO THIS IS MAURA, HOPEFULLY BRINGING IT DOWN TO THE MORE WALKABLE AND COMMUNITY FEEL THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS THIS IS THIS CONSENSUALLY WHAT I ENVISIONED THAT COULD HAPPEN THERE ON SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITE. IT'S ACTUALLY THIS IS TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OFF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SO HERE YOU HAVE, LIKE A SAD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES GOT CORNER

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AND AS YOU GO IN, YOU GOT FIVE UNITS OF THESE COULD BE WHAT COULD BE THAT SITE THERE? OR THEY'RE SO THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT HERE AND IN A SINGLE FAMILY CONCEPT, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUALLY WHAT AIKEN VISION THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE ON THIS SUN. THIS ISN'T LOOKING FROM NOT THE NORTH. LOOKING SOUTH. THE OTHER ONE WAS LOOKING ON THE VERY CORNER OF FOUR WINS AND SEEING LUCY JUST HAVING THAT DIRECT NORTH. EASTVIEW. AND YOU KNOW, SO I COULDN'T GO ON. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE HAPPY TO HAVE HANDS. AND. YEAH. RIGHT? ASKING IT. OKAY? YEAH.

ARE WE VOTING BEFORE COMMENT? NOW WE'RE IN JUST LIKE YOU GUYS COULD DISCUSS DELIVERY. HERE IN THE PODCAST, RIGHT? SEE ME, AND I COULD GET. AND THESE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE'S A TIME LIMIT. REGAN. IT'S MM. FIRST I WOULD HAVE US ASK QUESTIONS FIRST. SO MY QUESTION IS UNDER THE R ONE CURRENT DESIGNATION. IF YOU HAD THAT, FOLLOWING THE MODEL OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD, HOW MANY HOMES COULD BE FIT THERE WITH THE CURRENT 44. AND SO UNDER THE ARE, TOO THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE FIVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. CORRECT BECAUSE THIS PLANET AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A TWO STEP PROCESS HAVE HAD TO GO TO THE 400 REAP LAVAGE IS NOT A PROCESS COST DOCTORS IS IN QUESTION. YES, BASICALLY. YES. GOING TO WHAT HIS UNDERLYING TODAY ARE TWO WOULD ALLOW ME TO DO THE FIGHTING THE BATTLES AND THEN THE R ONE ON LEE ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILIES, WHEREAS THE ARE TWO ALLOWS FOR BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND DO A DUPLEX. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S IS MY UNDERSTANDING, OKAY? NOBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IT IS. ARE ONE ALLOWANCE FOR SINGLE FAMILY WITH A DETECTIVE. THAT IS CORRECT, TO HONEST ON A 50 FT LAW ALLOWS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. WITH A YOU KNOW THE DUPLEX SANTA. NO, YOU CAN'T BUILD A DUPLEX ON THE 50. YOU'D HAVE TO BE A 75 FT. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE 200 FT. 250 FT RUN BASICALLY SO THAT IT. TO IT YOU COULD BUILD ONE MORE HOUSE IF YOU GO TO ARGUE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S CORRECT IF I WENT TO OUR TWO, I WOULD BASICALLY BE ABLE TO GO TO WRITER DEVISING A FAMILY OR 66 AND FIVE SINGLE FAMILY, OR I COULD DO BASIN DENSITY EIGHT, BUT BECAUSE OFF THE LOT WITH REQUIREMENTS OF 75, YOU WOULD PROBABLY ONLY BE ABLE TO FIT ABOUT 66 UNITS SO BASICALLY FOR THE DUPLEX AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LIKE THIS.

THAT IS OUR TWO WITH 50 FT, UM, LOTS AND I HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST. WEEK, SO I UNDERSTAND LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON. YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY MULTI FAMILY, SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM. WHAT I DO SEE IT. THE PROBLEM IS WE BUILD ME WAREHOUSES AND THE SMALL BLOCK IS THAT WE'RE BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE SETBACK, SO THERE'S NO GREEN. SEE, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAW. THERE WAS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THE SITE. BASED ON YOUR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IT ALWAYS GOING TO COME DOWN TO THE DESIGN OF THE END OF THE DAY. WHERE YES, YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO MAXIMIZE IT PER CODE. YES, YOU COULD DO IF THE 5 FT YOU DO GET RID OF GREEN SPACE. HE ALSO HAVE A LAND COVERAGE RATIO, RIGHT I THINK IS LIKE A 50% SO THAT'S GONNA ALSO DICTATE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THIS SITE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE CURRENT CITY OF STUART CODES. AND DEVELOPING SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO STICK WITHIN THE FABRIC OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE ONES. THAT ARE SELLING UP. YES, YES, I'M NOT A FAN. SO HERE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO THAT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. CURRENTLY WE CAN HAVE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE LOT. WITH THIS PROPOSED REZONING. WE COULD SWITCH THAT TO FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR THREE DUPLEX IS CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. READY TO PUT. BECAUSE DUPLEX TAKE 75 FT. YEAH. OKAY SO THE DUPLEXES WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HOLD 75 FT WITS IF HE HAS TO IT 250 TOTAL THAT WOULD BE 2 25 OF THE 2 50 FOR THREE.

DUPLEX UNITS. RE DUPLEXES OR FIVE OR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU.

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SO I HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE I CARED BOTH THE NUMBER FIVE OR POTENTIALLY SIX SINGLE FAMILY. SO WHICH IS IT? SO LET ME CLARIFY THAT A BIT FURTHER, SO. FUTURE LAND USE PROVIDES A DENSITY OF EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. WITH THE 0.75 ACRES WE HAVE THAT EQUATES TO SIX UNITS ITAVAILABLE FOR THAT FUTURE, LANDES. HOWEVER THAT COULD ONLY BE ACHIEVED IF THE APPLICANT WENT TO A PUDU PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT SOME SPECIAL AGREEMENT BOTH OF THE OPA AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION. DO THAT. IT'S AH, IT'S MORE COMPLEX, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS ON THAT. SO WHAT? WE REALLY WHEN WE NEGOTIATED THIS MOVE WITH THE APPLICANT. WE WENT THROUGH THE ALLOWANCES OR. WHAT HE HAS IN PLACE. SO HE HAS THAT UNDERLYING AVAILABILITY FOR SIX UNITS ON THIS LAND AREA, AND THAT'S THE SAME DENSITY AS EVERYBODY ELSE IN THAT AREA. SO COMMISSION. WE IDENTIFIED A BIT OF A BACK STORY, THE WE IDENTIFIED THE STAFF THAT THERE WAS A. SORT OF BARRIER IN THE CITY. TO ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON HISTORICAL LOTS OF RECORD. AND WE LOOKED THROUGH THE CITY IN PARTICULAR SPECIFICALLY IN THE ART TO ZONING DISTRICTS. PRIMARILY AND THE FUTURE LOW DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF 50 FT LOT. ON WE HAVE, REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREETS THAT YOU MIGHT BE MORE ATTRACTIVE. ATTRACTED TO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THEM WHEN YOU WALK DOWN THEM. MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ON THOSE LOTS OF BASED ON 50 FT LOT, AND BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT OF BEING SMALLER. THERE'S MORE POTENTIAL FOR MORE ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENTS. THERE'S MORE AVAILABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND PURCHASE SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY LESS COSTLY TO BUY A SMALLER HOME. AND THE COMMISSION REALLY WANTED TO MOVE TOWARDS MAKING. MORE AVAILABILITY OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN THE CITY. THE WAY DID RECOMMEND TO THE APPLICANT THAT HE DID. HE WENT THIS WAY THAT HE LOOKED AT THE ART TOO. PRECISELY BECAUSE OF THE UNDERLYING. LOTS OF RECORD, WHICH IS 50 FT. SO WHICH THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIED THROUGH THEIR ZONING CHANGE TO BE THE ONES THAT WE WOULD A STAFF AND THE COMMISSION SUPPORT MOVE TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND. CONTROLLING ASPECT OF THIS IS ALWAYS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. IT'S ACTUALLY UM NO. REALLY FEASIBLE TO UTILIZE THE WHOLE DENSITY THAT'S ALLOWED ON THE ZONING. BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE ZONING THAT PLACED OVER THERE. ABOUT HOPE THAT RAMBLES SORT OF ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SIX. BUT THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SPECIAL PERMISSION OR WOULD JUST THE RESULTING THAN SAY, YOU COULD DO THE SAME. WELL, THIS THIS COULD. IF THE APPLICANT CHOSE MOVED TO THREE DUPLEX. THAT WOULD BE SOME. YES, YES, LIKE YEAH, I'M THINKING FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY FIRST. YES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SINGLE FAMILY IF YOU WENT SIX, SINGLE FAMILY. IT WOULD BE A BEAUTY. YES YES, SO BASICALLY TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THE REASON WHY I AM GOING TO THE UNDERLYING USE OF THE PLATT IS TO GO THROUGH. IT IS A TOUGH PROCESS TO GO THROUGH HERE, RIGHT? AND IT'S ALSO COST WHICH BASICALLY ADDS TO YOUR COSTS, WHICH ACTUALLY, CUSTOM HOMES MAKES THEM NOT AS ATTAINABLE AS YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. SO THEN, IF YOU IF I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO THE SIX I HAVE TO GO TO REPLANT, WHICH MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS FOR THE REPLANTING PROCESSORS INCLUDES COMING UP AND SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND ARCHITECTURAL FEES AND DESIGNED JUST TO SEE HOW I WOULD PUT ONE EXTRA UNIT WHICH PROBABLY WILL NOT BE FOR IT'S NOT WORTH THE COST. SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WHICH IS I FLATTERED LOTS OR YEAH, NO, NOT A 30 DUPLEXES. YEAH BUT EVEN TO GO TO THAT OPTION, TOO. I'M STILL REPORTING, YOU KNOW? SO THIS IS I'VE GOT A LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS. BUT I GOTTA DO IT ONE OF THE TIME. MY FIRST ONE IS GETTING TO REZONE. KING ON WHAT WE CAN DO, AND I ALREADY LIKE YOU SAID THE LIMITS OF WHAT IS SET WITHIN THE CODE BETWEEN 50 FT. OUR 75 DUPLEX. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO WITHIN THAT SPACE. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE A WAY THAT HE THAT IT COULD BE OUR TOO BUT NOT HAVE DEPRESSANTS? YES, ARE TOO WITH THE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE PLANTED LOTS OF RECORD, JESSE, BUT WAS THERE A CONDITION? NO. CAN WE SAID IT? SEE WELL AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHY I'M DOING A REASON

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VERSUS A BEAUTY BECAUSE THERE IS THIS IS BASICALLY A SIMPLEST WAY. WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING RIGHT NOW, BUT SITTING A CONDITION WHICH I THINK I GUESS YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER BETTER THAN ME. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN OCCUR WITH THE STRAIGHT REASON IF I'M COMING IN FOR A PEABODY RIGHT, UM. CODE ALLOWS FOR THE OPTION OF THE SINGLE FAMILY OR TO FAMILY. I DON'T. I HAVEN'T EVER. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF FOR MAKING ANY KIND OF CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ON PRIVATE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER FOR SOMETHING THAT THE CODE ALLOWS, LIKE IN CHINA, AND THERE IS NOT A CODE IN THE CITY OF STUART. IT'S CALLED OUR TWO WITHOUT DUPLEX.

SO IF IT'S OUR WANT, IT'S OUR ONE GUITAR TO ITS ARE, TOO AND IF IT'S OUR THREE, IT'S OUR THREE SO AND THEN WHATEVER THE CODE ALLOWS IN THOSE USES IS WHAT THE APPLICATION IS TONIGHT.

IF THIS WAS A P U D YOU GET BROTHERS RESTRICTIONS IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YOUR PROBLEM IS. THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS THEY'RE SCARED THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD DO PLAY. WELL, YOU SEE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK INTO SIGHT, LET'S GO BACK, OKAY? THE NEIGHBORS ARE SCARED, BUT I'M ALSO. MORE FEARFUL OF WHAT OCCURS BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS MULTI FAMILIES AND THIS IS OUR THREE. THIS IS A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY, RIGHT? AND I'VE GOT THESE PROPERTIES HERE THAT ARE ALSO OUR THREE. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT WILL OCCUR HERE, THIS IS THE ONLY DUPLEX THAT SITS ON THIS WHOLE ROAD. AND THEN I HAVE THIS DUPLEX.

THAT'S A TRANSIENT USE WHERE I'M SAYING EIGHT PEOPLE A NIGHT IN A TWO BEDROOM TO THAT, THAT'S THE TYPE OF STUFF HER IN AN R THREE ZONE THAT I'M TRYING NOT TO. SO THAT'S WHAT OCCURS HERE TODAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT DOING HERE IN KEEPING THE BEND A LITTLE LOAD ZONE IS KEEPING IT. YOU KNOW? COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE USES THAT ARE DUE TODAY. WHICH ARE. IF THEY PUT LOTS OF RECORD AND THEN IF I DID WANT TO DO A DUPLEX IS BASICALLY KEEPING IN KIND. WHAT'S THERE? THERE'S ALREADY A DUPLEX THERE. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SETTING THE RECORD. I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S NOT HERE TODAY. NO OTHER COMMENTS. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC REQUEST TO SPEAK. I'LL JUST GO IN ORDER THAT THEY'RE LISTED HERE. WHICH IS FIRST MARCELLA KIMBLER. UH THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MYRCELLA CAM BLOWER. UM, MY OFFICES HERE AND 47, WESTERN TO ILLUSTRATE I JUST WANT TOMO SAY THAT. NO, I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT ZONING SHOULD STAND ON ITSELF. I MEAN, OUR ENTIRE CODE. THE RULES OF OUR CITY, OUR ZONING AND THEIR EQUAL FOR EVERYONE. AND IF SOMEONE HAS. UM YOU KNOW, ARE ONE OR TWO OR THREE EVERYONE THAT HAS THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME. WHICH WHICH IS WHY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROCESS. THAT STAFF DID. I THINK, MR PRICE PROVED. YOU KNOW, BEYOND ANY DOUBT THAT THERE'S A PATTERN AROUND HIM OF ZONING THAT CREATED AN ISLAND OF OUR ONE FOR HIS PIECE. I HONESTLY THOUGHT HE WAS SHOOTING FOR OUR THREE BECAUSE HE'S SURROUNDED BY OUR THREE. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT HE WAS GOING FOR ARE TWO, WHICH ALLOWS MORE COMPATIBLE HUGHES. I WAS HERE IN FRONT OF MR VEGA WITH THE PREVIOUS BOARD. CONGRATULATIONS BY THE WAY, JUST IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER WHEN THIS BOARD SPEARHEADED, ENCOURAGING THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MR PRICE DID AND HOPING THAT THAT'S SIMPLE CHANGE WOULD START TO BRING FORWARD PEOPLE DOING THIS. AND SO I COMMEND YOU. I THINK IT IS. AH, GREAT THING FOR THE CITY. HE MENTIONED THE MISSING MIDDLE. THIS WILL CREATE I KNOW THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT IS NOT PART OF A GATED SUBDIVISION IN SUBURBIA, OR, YOU KNOW, OR CONDOS THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING AROUND THE CITY SO IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING, THANK YOU.

VERY MUCH NEXT. WE HAVE ROGER BUT NOW. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. MY NAME IS ROGER OR NOT, AND I LIVE IN SNUG HARBOR. THERE'S A FEW THINGS I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT ONE IS THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF. I NOTICED THAT IF I WAS WONDERING IF HE HAD GOTTEN A PERMIT TO DESTROY THE SIDEWALK THAT'S IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE. IN THAT RUNS ALONG THAT STREET. WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS AS PEOPLE HAVE HAD GROWTH. GOING OVER THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALKS. ISN'T THAT RIGHT, MIKE? ALL RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT, SO

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RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE. IF YOU LOOKED AT ONE OF THOSE PICTURES TO SEE HIS SIDEWALKS, ALL TORN UP, AND SOMEONE HAD COME ALONG WITH THE SLEDGEHAMMER, BUSTED UP THAT SIDEWALK AND PUT IN SOME PLANES. OKAY. AND SO NOW, IT MAKES NOW A PROBLEM WELL, SO NOW IT MAKES A PROBLEM FOR KIDS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE BUS. THERE. WE HAVE A BIG ENOUGH PROBLEM WITH. NO CROSSWALK THERE FOR KIDS AND FOR PEOPLE CROSSING OVER TO GO OVER TO FRESH MARKET. BUT THAT IN ITSELF IS ONE THING. THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS THERE IS A REASON FOR ZONING AND ZONING SHOULD BE STUCK TWO. AND THE FOREFATHERS OF OUR GREAT CITY.

I HAD A PLAN AND THAT PLAN, I THINK SHOULD STAY, YOU KNOW, AND. IF EVERYTHING HE HAS SHOWED US TODAY'S OFF CONCEPTION. WELL. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A DREAM.

SOMETIMES THAT DREAM BECOMES A PERSON'S NIGHTMARE. AND I BELIEVE THAT ZONING SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NO REASON FOR HIM. TO GOLD, MORE HOMES, THEN HE NEEDS TO AND WHAT I THINK IT'S WHAT FOUR HOMES HE CAN PUT THERE NOW. AND SO IF HE'S BUILDING FOUR HOMES HE COULD MAKE JUST AS MUCH MONEY WITH THOSE FOUR HOMES AS HE COULD WITH FIVE BECAUSE HE COULD MAKE A BIGGER HOME A NICER HOME AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEING AFFORDABLE. WELL THAT AREA THAT HAD THE PRICES HAVE SKYROCKETED. AND SO. I THINK THE GUY IS GOING TO LOOK TOO FAR AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ANY REASON FOR HIM TO GIVE HIS OWN. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER THING, TOO, IS BY EXPANDING HIS PROPERTY LINE. WHICH HELL HE'S TRYING TO DO, TOO. IT'S ALSO GOOD TO CAUSE A PROBLEM OF SAFETY BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT OF FOUR WINS, IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE NOW, BUT BY HIM PUTTING UP A HOME CLOSER TO THE STREET, AND IN THAT RIGHT AWAY, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC. SO PLEASE DENY HIM OF THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMISE. MIKE'S TUX AND PLEASE. EVENING MEMBERS ABOARD MY EXTENSION. THIRD GENERATION FLORIDIAN AND LIVE AROUND THE CORNER FROM THIS HOUSE. UH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I ASKED THE IN HER HAIR. HMM. THESE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS. GET UP AND THEN THE BOARD THAT VESSEL DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC. GOT YOU. OKAY. SORRY. NO. E WILL SAY THAT THAT IS WHAT HE SAID IN HIS PRESENTATION, BUT BE CONCEPTUAL. RIGHT? SO THOSE AIR. YOU KNOW, TWO STORIES HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE TWO STORY.

IT'S TRUE THAT THERE ARE APARTMENTS AND CONDOS IN THAT AREA. BUT THIS IS THE POINT WHERE IT TRANSITIONS TO SINGLE FAMILY ALL THE WAY EAST THROUGH SNUG HARBOR. IT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY. ACROSS THE STREET. THERE. IS THERE TWO UNITS OR TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS, CONDOS? BUT THEY'RE SET. AND THEY'RE VERY WELL SCREENED BY VEGETATION, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO STICK OUT THERE LIKE THIS. UH, I THINK IT'S A DENSITY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY'RE THE PARKING. AND IF IT GOES TO DUPLEXES IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING SO I THINK IT'S JUST IT DOESN'T GO WITH WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DOES FARTHER TO THE WEST. BUT THOSE AIR JUST SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T SEE FROM THE STREET SO MUCH. ANYWAY. THAT'S MY COMMENTS AND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING BY WHEN I MAKE A REQUEST THAT SPEAKERS STATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART OR WHETHER THEY LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED MARTIN COUNTY. RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ROBIN CARTWRIGHT. OKAY SO WE'LL TABLE YOU HERE. OKAY? LINDA CAVE RICHARDS, PLEASE. FANTASTIC THANK YOU. OKAY DEAL FOREIGN, VERY PLANES. ALSO KIND OF SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I BROUGHT FOR YOU ALL. YOU COULD CHANGE.

WELL, IT'S I'VE GOT A PETITION SIGNED BY 66 PEOPLE OPPOSING THIS. TONY ON AND I'VE GOT ONE COPY OF THAT FOR YOU AS WELL. APOLOGIES COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE? I'M

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SORRY. DALE DALE FORM VERY FINE WIFE, JULIE, WE LIVE IN TO 65, SOUTH EAST ST LUCIE BOULEVARD.

WE ARE. YOU COULD BE CONDUCT PUT IT RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO, UM MAKE REFERENCES TO THIS IS WELL. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND JUST COLORS ON HIS ZONING MAP. REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS. SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP SOME OF THE UNDERLYING DEVELOPMENT. UM, PATTERNS. AND TRY AND REALLY ADD SOME COLOR TO WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WHY THIS IS NOT GOOD. SO IF YOU IF WE GO THROUGH, WE LOOK AT I'VE LABELED ONE HOUSE EVE. ON THAT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. OKAY.

THIS WAS NOT CITY OF STUART'S FINEST HOUR, HAVING A FIVE PLEX, MULTI FAMILY STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK WE WANT A MODEL. ANYTHING GOING FORWARD OFF OF THAT. THEN I'VE LABELED NUMBER 12 AND THREE ARE THE HOUSES THAT ARE ON LOTS THAT ARE GREATER THAN 100 FT. IN WITH HAVE TWO CAR DRIVEWAYS AND TWO CAR GARAGE. WE'LL GET TO WHY THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IN A MINUTE. THEN THERE IS A SERIOUS OF EIGHT LOTS THAT AIR 50 FT WIDE ON MONTEREY. UM AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE CONDOS. NO CARVER WEB THERE'S ABOUT, I THINK, 60 HOMES RESIDENTS THAT USED THIS FOUR WINDS. BOULEVARD TO ACCESS THEIR PROPERTY IN BEHIND. YOU GO TO PAGE TWO. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. ONE OF THE FIRST INTERESTING THINGS IS THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE RIGHT. WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WA SO OF COURSE I DID. EVERYBODY DOES. I GOOGLED IT. IT TURNS OUT, THERE'S A MISSING MIDDLE CALM. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FOUR, THERE'S MISSING MIDDLE .COM.

AND IT DOES CALL FOR HIGHER DENSITY. FOR HOMES, BUT THERE'S ONE THAT NUMBER ONE FEATURE OF TRULY MISSING MIDDLE IS WALK ABILITY. JUST SOMETHING FOR BIG CITIES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO IN NEW YORK. THEY DO THAT SO I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY WALKING TO DINNER. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY GET A WALK INTO THE GROCERY STORE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE ON A CAR, SO I WONDERED.

HEY, HOW CAN I KNOW IF THIS IS A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, TURNS OUT THERE'S A WALK SCORE .COM. RIGHT. AND SO I PUT IN OUR ADDRESS. NOT WALKABLE WERE CAR DEPENDENT. WE GOTTA SCORE OF A 36. SO, SO WE'RE NOT A MISSING WE'RE NOT A CANDIDATE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR MISSING MIDDLE OKAY. I THINK IT'S A MISNOMER. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE'S JUST PRESENTED IN ORDER OVER DEVELOP THIS LOT AND GIVE HIM SOME JUSTIFICATION. SECOND ITEM IS THE CURRENT ZONING IN AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I THOUGHT OUR ONE WAS 75 FT LOT WITS. CORRECT OKAY. HE'S GOT 250 FT. HOW IS HE PUTTING IN FOR PROPERTY SO. 250 FT WILL ALLOW FOR THREE SINGLE FAMILY ARE ONE RESIDENCES. OKAY, SO NOT FOR THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT SO. WHAT WE'RE REALLY LIKE. THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS FOR A 50% INCREASE IN DENSITY. RIGHT. AND SO YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING 51 50% GROWTH AND DENSITY HE DOESN'T NEED, YOU KNOW WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DENSITY THAN THAT? AVERAGE SETBACK.

THIS IS ANOTHER CHALLENGE THE EVERY SETBACK ON HIS PLOT. HE'S GOT A 10 FT OFF OF. OKAY, WELL IN I ALSO ON THE 66 PAGE 66 PEOPLE SIGNED 50 OF THEM BECAUSE OF COVERT. I MIGHT ASK THE BOARD TO BE A LET ME FINISH MY PRESENTATION. 50 OF THEM SAID THEY WOULD ALLOW ME TO SPEAK FOR THEM. SO I'LL BE DONE AND GIVE ME ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX MINUTES. IF YOU DON'T MIND. I A LICENSED BUILDING CONTRACTOR AND I'VE GOT I'VE GOT QUITE A BIT OF IN FROM I MEAN, I HAVE DONE A PRETTY DEEP ANALYSIS OF THIS IF HE WOULDN'T MIND UNDER UNDER THE COVERT CONDITIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THE 66 PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD. THEY ASKED ME TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

COULD COULD WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ATTORNEY? MM HMM. RIGHT? YEAH, MAYBE AN EXTRA MINUTE TO FINISH UP. YEAH. OKAY? SO I DID ANALYSIS. I WENT AND MEASURED AND I LOOKED AT EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHERE THE AVERAGE WITH OF THE FRONT LOT OF 74 FT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 75 IS OUR ONE. IT IS NOT CUTTING. IT IS NOT A BIG BURDEN ON HIM TO MAINTAIN 75 FT FRONT LINE. SECONDARILY PLEASE LOOK AT Y 50 50 FT. WATTS WILL NOT WORK. WE HAVE TO GO VERY FAR TO SEE THAT GO TO MONTEREY AVENUE. THERE WAS STREET PARKING ALL OVER MONTEREY AVENUE. YOU CANNOT STREET PARK ON FOUR WINS. THERE'S A DITCH ON BOTH

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SIDES. AND IT'S ONLY 14 FT WIDE BECAUSE GOT A MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMEBODY KILLED BECAUSE AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD. IF, IN FACT THERE STREET PARKING AND TAKE A LOOK AT HIS SIDE, HIS LOT HE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PARKING. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO COME. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR DELIVERY TRUCKS. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR A FOR A SERVICE VEHICLE TO BE THERE. YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMEBODY KILLED DOWN IN SNUG HARBOR WEST BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A CAR SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY AND A FIRE TRUCK. INTO NAMGYAL TO NOT BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH. I REALLY WOULD. LIKE YOU TO WALK THROUGH THIS. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESPONSIBILITY. I UNDERSTAND HE WANTS TO PROFIT. HE REALLY WANTS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT HIS MANY HOMES ON THERE IS POSSIBLE TO MAX. IT'S UP TO YOU TO PROTECT US FROM THAT OVERDEVELOPED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THEN JUST ONE QUESTION, AND SHE HAD ASKED, UM, ARE YOU IS YOUR PROPERTY WHERE THE LOCATION IS YOURS? CONSIDERED STILL IN THE CITY.

CORRECT YOUR OH, YEAH. NO I'M RIGHT NEXT TO HIM DAILY JULIE RIGHT PICTURE BECAUSE YOU HAD WANTED THAT AND WE'RE NOT A TRANSIENT. IT IS A DOUBLE MY FRIENDS AND MY RELATIVES STAY THERE. IT IS ON THE RBL. WE'VE RUN IT. EIGHT TIMES, I THINK IN THREE YEARS, SO IT'S NOT. YEAH I HAVE NO IDEA. WHY SAYS MULTI FAMILY AND YOUR 66 PEOPLE ARE THEY RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THEIR ADDRESSES ARE ALL ON THIS PETITION. HAPPY TO CIRCULATE. THEY GAVE I DID.

SHE'S GOT THE COPY ENOUGH HARBOR RESIDENTS ARE THERE'S A FUSION HARDER. WE WALKED THE CONDOS FOR WINS. CONDOS WE ALSO WALKED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FOUR WINDS CONDOS, WHICH ARE THREE WINDOWS ARE ALSO WE'RE GOOD. YOUR PARK. I THINK IT IS. GET KRUGER PARK. WE WALKED THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WE EXPLAIN THIS TO SIGN THIS PETITION OR AGREED WITH ONE PERSON DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN IT BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID TO BE ON THE RECORD, BUT THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE PERSON. IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AGREED TO THIS, REED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT DEAL. THORNBERRY. SORRY. THANK YOU. RED RISKY. RED RED SKI 3 TO 5, SOUTH US STUFF. WEST ST LUCIE, I'M JUST OUT. I'M IN THE MARTIN COUNTY LINE RUNNING A LINE BUT, UM, A HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS GENTLEMAN THAT WANTS TO REZONE. HIS REZONING SHOULD STAY THE SAME. IF NOBODY'S REALLY LOOKED AT SETBACK WHAT HE WANTS TO BUILD. HE WANTS TO BUILD ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SIDEWALK. IF YOU GO DOWN ST LUCIE BOULEVARD. EVERY HOUSE HAS SET BACK 25. 35 FT. WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN ST LUCIE. HE'S GOING TO BE A SWORD DOWN IS GONNA BE STICKING OUT RIGHT ON THE ROAD. FOUR WINS PROPERTY OWNERS. FOR ONCE. IT'S NOT HARBOR WEST PROPERTY OWNERS. I HAD TO PULL OUT WHEN THEY COME OUT TO THAT ROADWAY ON ST LUCIE.

THEY WON'T HAVE TO PULL ALL THE WAY OUT. I NEED TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT. THAT'S GONNA BE A DISASTER. THE APARTMENTS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET. TO THE NORTH. IS A HIGH DENSITY. ALL THOSE KIDS COME OUT AND GET ON THE SCHOOL BUS RIGHT THERE EVERY MORNING.

EVERYBODY HAS TO SLOW DOWN. IT'S A 25 MPH. HAS ANYBODY DO 25? NO, EVERYBODY DOES. 35 45.

SO MM. HOPEFULLY CAN DENY THIS IT'S AH. IT WON'T LOOK GOOD AT ALL ON THAT. ST LUCIE BOULEVARD.

IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND TO SNUG HARBOR IS COULD BE A SORE THUMB. I AGREE WITH. HE NEEDS TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. DO THE THREE HOUSES OR THE FOUR HOUSES DO THE SETBACK TO 25 FT.

HE'S GOOD TO GO RIGHT THERE. I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE ART TO THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE. HAVE A QUESTION TO JUST A CLARIFICATION. NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD THE TRAFFIC ISSUE INTRODUCED OR THE TRAFFIC POTENTIAL DANGER, SO WHEN YOU CHANGE THE ART TO DESIGNATION I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU. NOW YOUR SETBACK IS DIFFERENT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SET. BACCHUS FAR IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING. NO THAT'S NOT. THE CASE, ARE ONE I'LL TO COME BOTH BE SET BACK. THERE IS A PROVISION SET THEM BACK 25 FT, BUT THEY COULDN'T BOTH ALSO BE SET BACK. 15 FT WITH A PORCH. THAT IS COMMON IN THE CITY. WHAT ABOUT THE CORNER LOT? WHICH ONE THAT WOULD BE FAIR WINDS AND PEOPLE DOES THAT HAVE A CORNER SETBACK OF 25? YES CLASSES A DOUBLE FRONTAGE. SO. CAN I CAN I JUST I'LL JUST FINISH WHAT I'M GOING SAY. SO THE CORNER? YEAH, THE CORNER LOT. IS CLASSED AS A DOUBLE FRONT. LOT SO THE SIDE SET BACK ON LUCY WOULD BE 10 FT. BOND ON COMPARISON TO 67.5 THAT IT WOULD NORMALLY BE FOR

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ASIDE SETBACK. I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO BE, BUT IT'S I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY? RIGHT NEXT UP THIS SHEILA KURTZ. RIGHT? I AM STUART RESIDENT. AND I'M RIGHT HERE IN THE FOUR WINDS DRIVE AREA. DO YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? YES, SORRY. UM. MY CONCERN WITH THIS PROJECT SO FAR. UM YES, I HAVE SEEN THE SIDEWALK ALL BUSTED UP. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT. BUT, UM IT'S BEEN A LITTLE INTRUSION THERE. IT'S NOT SAFE. DEFINITELY NOT SAFE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS AROUND THERE.

IF WE. APPROVED A PROJECT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE DUPLEX IS WE HAVE A HAVE A HUGE PARKING PROBLEM. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE BUT. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE JUST ONE PERSON, PROBABLY AND. INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. YOU COULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK ON THE STREET, AND THAT'S GONNA BE FOUR WINDS DRIVE. AND THE VISIBILITY OF THAT SETBACK IS ALLOWED. WHICH IT WOULD BE, OF COURSE. WOULD BE JUST TERRIBLE.

SO I THINK IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE. NOT EVEN GETTING INTO THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT ISSUE THE WAY IT'S GONNA LOOK BUT THAT SETBACK ALSO IS GONNA REALLY BE NEGATIVE FORCE ST LUCIE. BOULEVARD THERE. I MEAN, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STREET IS IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE IT A LOT. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT KIND OF VISIBILITY. WE HAVE TO COME OUT AND FORWARDS DR T O TRY AND SEE WHAT'S COMING. IT'S GONNA BE DANGEROUS. SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROPHET ISSUE.

BUT. A QUALITY PRODUCT QUALITY PROJECT IS PUT THERE. YOU'LL STILL GET REALLY GOOD MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY IS TIME GOES BY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SYMPATHY THERE. UM. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S ALREADY WITH THE WAY THE SIDE WORK IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION.

SO, BUT THE PARKING ISSUE IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLE. AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE GONNA PARK GONE ON FOUR ONES DRIVE AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER. IT SAID, YES, IT'S DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES IN THE DRAINAGE. IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THERE, AND. DURING A STORM OF WHATEVER. AFTER THE STORM, YOU'LL SEE. I MEAN, THE WHOLE AREA, YOU KNOW IS THAT A LOT OF THAT AREAS IS THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES SO YOU COULD HAVE A LOT OF A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BARBARA OF INGRESS PROGRESS. CONDITION THREE. OKAY AND MR DONALD DOSHA. THANK YOU. I'M A 30 YEAR, RESIDENT OF MONTEREY AVENUE OF LOVE. CATTY CORNER RIGHT FROM THIS PROJECT. MY ARGUMENTS OR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES, OR WE ARE ALONG THE LINES OF HISTORICAL I MEAN, I ASSUME WHEN. THESE ARE ONE OR TWO OR THREE WERE FIRST DESIGNATED THAT SOME THOUGHT WAS PUT INTO WHAT A COMMUNITY SHOULD LOOK LIKE. AND WHAT SHOULD BE OUR ONE ON WHAT SHOULD BE OR TWO. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT IF THIS CHANGES. WHAT IS TO KEEP THE OTHER HOUSES. I'M IN ONE OF THOSE LITTLE 50 FT. LOTS OF THE TEACHER FOR 28 YEARS, THAT'S ALL I CAN AFFORD. AND YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW DOWN THE ROAD. IF PEOPLE JUST BY 34 HOUSES, AND THEN THEY WANT TO HAVE THOSE ALL CHANGED OVER TO OUR TWO OR THREE AND EXPAND.

THIS WHOLE AREA THAT ONE BLOCK OF JUST ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IS JUST A WONDERFUL AREA. AND I JUST OPPOSED TO MESSING WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S ZONING THAT IT WAS HAS NOW IS HIS OWN AND THAT SHOULD CHANGE. STAY THAT WAY. THANK YOU. YOU LOOK QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A CUTE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON S O THE NEW OR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON EAST OCEAN AT HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UM, HI, VISCOUS. WHAT'S THAT ZONED? TALK ABOUT JOHN LAYTON'S YEAH, OKAY. THAT WAS OUR PD. SO IT ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL IN FRONT AND RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK. UM. NO, THEY'RE LIKE FOUR WHITE HOUSE'S THROUGH HARTMAN TOWN.

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YEAH. IT'S JOHN LEYTON. I DON'T LIKE THAT. THAT'S MENTIONED. THAT PROJECT CAME IN AS A PD.

AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE COMMERCIAL, THE PARCEL ACTUALLY GOES OUT TO EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. SO THE JOHN GONZALEZ IS REAL ESTATE OFFICE IS PART OF THAT APPROVAL, SO IT WAS COMMERCIAL OUT FRONT. AND THEN THE FIVE STORY TOWN HOUSES WITH GARAGES WITH COMMON WALL THERE, FIVE IN A ROW WAS PART OF THE P U. D APPROVAL, SO IT'S NOT OUR ONE. IT'S NOT ARE TOO IT'S NOT OUR THREE. IT IS A SEPARATE PD PROCESS. SO THE COMMISSIONER SENSELESSLY ASSIGNED IT ITS.

OWN ZONING. OKAY, THANK BEAUTY IS ESSENTIALLY CONDITIONAL ZONING. YEAH, OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS JUST FROM STAFFS PERSPECTIVE. AS THE PLANNING EXPERTS. DO YOU HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THE SETBACKS HERE? NOT ANY MORE THAN WE WOULD HAVE ON ANY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE VISIBILITY'S PLAYS ENFORCED DURING SITE PLAN REVIEW. SETBACKS IN LINE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED TO BE DE MINIMUS IN TERMS OF THERE IS NOT USUALLY ANY COMMENT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS REGARDING THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM. IT WILL BE E THINK THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DO GARAGES AND DRIVEWAYS TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING ON SITE. THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOW PARKING ON STREET ON DEF THAT DID OCCUR THEN THEY WOULD BE CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO QUOTE ENFORCEMENT WOULD TAKE CARE OF ANY PARKING VIOLATIONS ON THE STREET. YEAH. MM. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALK.

YES. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SIDEWALK. OKAY, SO THE SIDEWALK THAT EVERYONE IS IN QUESTION OFF IS ON THE CORNER HERE. I'M SORRY. THIS LOCATION HERE. THERE'S A SIDEWALK HERE. OVER TWO YEARS. THE YOUNG LADY WILL THIS PROPERTY ALSO ON THIS, AND THEY HAD LIKE A PRIVATE SIDEWALK WITHIN MY PROPERTY LINE. SO THE CITY. SPIRIT CAME OUT THERE BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS A CALL SAYING THAT THIS THING WAS FALLING APART BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY LIKE A TWO INCH CONCRETE PAD THAT WAS POURED THEIR THIS IS NOT TO CODE. THEY CAME OUT THERE AND WHEN WE PUT A SURVEY LINE ON IT IS ON. MY PROPERTY. SO THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC SIDEWALK. WHAT HAS OCCURRED IS THAT THIS THING NOW BECOMES A LIABILITY ISSUE FOR WHO. MYSELF AND SO THE CITY GOES WELL, YOU OUGHT TO REPAIR IT OR YOU GET RID OF IT. I'M THEY ALREADY STARTED. THEY WERE TOE ONCE AND BASICALLY TOOK OUT THAT SEGMENT. AND WHAT I DID WAS LIKE, LEAVE ME ENOUGH SO I COULD MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, AND I PUT PLANTS AND FLOWERS AND DARE TO MAKE IT WHERE YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A AREA TO WALK THROUGH BECAUSE THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHY I HEAR SOMEONE SAY SO CALLED ENFORCEMENT DIDN'T ENFORCE IT. THEY CAN'T. THIS IS MY PROPERTY.

THIS IS ALL MY PROPERTY, AND I HAD TO MAINTAIN IT BY KEEPING FOLKS OFF. WHICH IS WHAT OCCURRED HERE. OKAY. BUT DID TARA THAT OCCURRED WAS NOT BY ME. THAT WAS. WHY DID THE CITY WENT OUT THERE NOT KNOWING STARTED TEARING IT APART. AND THEN WHEN I WENT OUT TO EVERY PULLED OUT THE SERVE WAYS TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE LIKE WELL, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS, AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. NOW AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SETBACKS, I KEEP HEARING SETBACK. SETBACK I'M GONNA BE 7.5 FT OFF THE SIDEWALK, AND I WANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. SO HERE IS THE CITY'S SIDEWALK. THERE IS A 10 FT, I THINK SETBACK THAT'S RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S NOT A PART OF ANYONE'S PROPERTY THAT RUNS ALONG SNUG HARBOR. SO YOU HAVE 10 FT. THERE. THEN FOR CODE EVEN IF I WANTED TO DO IN OUR ONE TODAY. I CAN DO 7.5 FT. THEY'RE SO IF EVERYONE'S WORRIED ABOUT A SETBACK, WHETHER I DO 23 UNITS. WE'RE CODE I COULD DO 75 7.5 FT THERE. THERE'S ALSO AN ALLEYWAY HERE. THAT'S RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S YOU KNOW, ENCUMBERED BY OTHER USES AND PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT TO ALLOW PEOPLE IF I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO GET ACCESS INTO MY PROPERTY BY USING THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, ALLIE SITS RIGHT HERE. I'M LOOKING AT TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE I SAID.

SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. DUPLEX YES, IT'S AN ART TO ZONING DUPLEX, WHICH ALLOWS THE FLEXIBILITY GO TO BOTH. I'M NOT LOOKING AT DUPLEX. I HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO CONCEPT THAT WHAT I SEE HERE.

NOW I KEEP HEARING SAFETY CONCERNS AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS. THERE. THREE HOMES THERE TODAY ARE TWO HOMES THERE TODAY. IT'S PLANTED FOR FIVE. I HEARD SOMEONE MENTIONED A FOUR FACTORS MUST HAVE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AND FOREFATHERS DID. AND THEY HAD

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50 FT. LOTS OF IT. WHICH IS WHAT I HAD THERE TODAY, WHICH IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M GONNA GO TO THE HISTORIAN OF WHAT BEFORE FLORIDA'S THOUGHT ABOUT OVERTIME. YES DEVELOPMENTS OCCURRED, AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING THAT IS HAPPENING IS AND KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CORRECTLY FROM WRONG WHAT PROBABLY OCCURRED WHEN HE STARTED ZONING THIS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE CHANGES. THIS IS AN EXISTING USE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO PLOT THAT ZONING THERE. AND THAT'S HOW THAT OCCURRED. WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY IS NOW TRYING TO CORRECT AS THEY MOVE FORWARD IN THIS WHOLE PLAN. THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW? YEAH I'VE WON.

LOOKS ALWAYS THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO MAKE MONEY. I MEAN, MY ROOM GOT UNIS AT OUR RENT. I RENTED THEM TWO FOLKS THAT WERE FOLKS THAT WERE WORKING IN HAIRDRESSING SALONS WHO CAN'T AFFORD ANYWHERE ELSE. RENT TO THESE THINGS AT A LOSS. I GET LIKE CONVENTION EARLIER. HERE YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT ONCE AGAIN I'VE GOT OH, YEAH, WE HAVE TRANSIT USES. IT'S YOU. CAN YOU GO ONLINE AND YOU HEAR THIS? EIGHT PEOPLE THAT CAN COME IN A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH? THAT'S A DENSE USE. THAT'S MORE OF A USE AND TRAFFIC USED IN MY VIEW. AS FAR AS MY VIEW CORRIDORS, I THINK DICTATED BY CODE BECAUSE OF MY SETBACKS. I'VE GOT ANOTHER 10 FT HERE AND ANOTHER 10 FOR HERE THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT CLEARANCE. MY WHOLE THING IS, I THINK THAT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND KEPT YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT THIS IS OWNING REQUIREMENT I'M LASTING FOR THIS IS NOT A SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. THIS IS AGREE ZONE OF THE ZONING AND I WANTED TO STAND ON THAT ZONING BY VIRTUE OFF, I'M SURROUNDED BY OUR THREES. ENTIRELY AROUND MY SIGHT. I'M TRYING TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES THAT AIR THERE AND I'M LOOKING TO DO ARE TWO WHICH KEEPS ME WITHIN THE FABRIC OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY, NOT A GENTLEMAN SAYS I LIVE IN MONTEREY, AND I LOVE MY LITTLE 50 FT LOT. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S I DON'T SEE HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS KEEPING IN LINE WITH WHAT'S THERE. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH.

WHAT'S THERE? THIS IS WHAT'S THERE TODAY. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT'S THERE TODAY. AND YOU HAVE YOU KNOW EVERYONE'S WHERE'D ALL DUPLEX DUPLEX PARKING? I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE HERE WITH PARKING THEN THE SAME ISSUE. LOOK HER HERE.

WELL, IF THERE'S NONE HERE THAN HOW CAN THERE BE SOMETHING HERE? THAT WILL BE DATE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS THERE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE POINTED OUT. NOW, AS FAR AS EVERYONE SAYING THAT EVERYONE SETBACK IS AROUND 25 FT. IF THAT HOME IF I WAS TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TODAY, AND I GO BY. THE MAP IN THE SURVEY. GOT THE SIDEWALK. I'VE GOT THE ROADWAY HERE. THAT'S MY RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S WHERE YOUR WORLDLY STARTS. YOU HAVE TO SIDEWALK THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 FT. HERE ON A CORNER LOT YOU HAVE ABOUT 10 FT. THAT'S 20 FT. OKAY, THEN GOING ALL THE WAY OUT. YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT ABOUT 30 FT. THAT STAYS IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I KEEP HEARING ARGUMENT OF THIS BEING MORE CLUSTERED OR KNOW BY TODAY. THIS CAN BE DONE. REGARDLESS AS FAR AS THAT SET BACK THERE. AND YOU TURNED THOSE FRONT TWO HOUSES. THOSE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE CORNER. CAN YOU TURN HIM SO THEY HAVE FRIENDED JOHN TAYLOR HAVE LIBERTIES, NOT A LOT OF THE THING IS NOW I'M REPLANTING. YEAH BUT NOW I'M REPLANTING AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, AND I'M GOING TO THINK ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO KEEP DOWN AND WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY TRYING TO BE OH, WON'T REALLY BE ANY MORE COSTS, BUT IS THAT? WHAT DID THAT BE MORE COST? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR GONNA HAVE TO REPLANT ANYWAY. NO, I DON'T. NOT AT THIS POINT. I AM I'M PLANTED AS LIFE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROPERTIES WERE PUT TOGETHER IN 1977. THEN YOU NOW HAVE ONE LOT. AND YOU HAVE TO REPLANT IT TO THE 55. I GUESS I'M NOT GONNA ANSWER THAT. I'M JUST JUST DON'T WE JUST CONSIDERING THAT QUESTION HERE, WHETHER OR NOT TAKING THOSE TWO LATTES ON REDEFINING THE LOT LINE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT ONCE ONE TIME, SO DEPENDING ON THE AREA, AND AH, YOU KNOW THE LAYOUT. IT MAY BE POTENTIAL WITHOUT HAVING A REPLAY THAT THAT COULD OCCUR. BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE 25 FT STEP BACK FROM FAMOUS SEA BOULEVARD, WHICH SEEMS TO BE VERY BOTHERSOME. WELL IT'LL BE VERY OKAY, SO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 25 FT LOT, RIGHT. YOU'RE SO THEN, BASICALLY THAT MY SIGHTS SET BACK WOULD BE 5 FT. UP ALONG THIS WALK THIS ALLEYWAY RALLY AND THEN PLUS, YOU WOULD HAVE 60. FT LOTS. RIGHT. 65 FT LOGS AND THE FRONT OF FAMILIES PEOPLE OF ART SIDE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 130 NOW, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT A DEPTH OF 130. YES.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE 65 BY 100 FT LINE. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND NO. OKAY, BUT WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE LOOKING, YEAH, GIVEN THE GIVEN THE CHANGE, RIGHT? HE GOES TO OUR TWO.

THEY'RE GIVING THE CHANGE. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? THERE'S PROBABLY NO DOUBT. IF, IN FACT

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IF IN FACT THE BOARD IT'S OUR ONE RIGHT NOW. 75 FT LOT WITH WOULD BE REQUIRED. SO IF YOU'RE INFERRING THAT HE COULD TURN THE LOTS NOW AND DO THAT THE ANSWER IS NO. IF IT'S OUR TWO ZONING IN THE LANDOWNER UNDER OUR TWO ZONING HAS THE DISCRETION TO FOLLOW THAT CODE.

WITH WHATEVER THE CODE IS, SO PROBABLY IF HE WANTED TO TURN IT, HE COULD, BUT HE WOULDN'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING TO PLAN IT AND COME BACK AND TURN IT. IT ALSO CAN'T BE CONDITIONAL IZED ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S STRAIGHT ZONING. IT WAS A P U D BUT THE BOARD MIGHT SUGGEST WE WANT TO SWITCH THIS WAY OR THAT WAY AND YOU WILL SEE SITE PLANS AND YOU'D SEE, YOU KNOW VISUALIZATIONS OF IT, BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THE MATH IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN AN R TWO'S OWNING A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CERTAIN LOT WITHIN CERTAIN AND SO AS A RESULT, IF YOU WANTED TO DO HIM DIAGONALLY, AND YOU MET THOSE LOT, WHICH YOU COULD DO THAT AS WELL, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE A WAY FOR YOU TO GET ALONG WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. REALLY WELL, THAT WOULDN'T COST YOU WELL AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A MATTER OFF AT THIS POINT. IT'S A FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS. OKAY SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH SITE PLAN, WHICH IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE ZONING FOR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'M DEALING WITH HERE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M HERE TO DO THIS. THE SITE AND THE REASON SHOULD STAND ON ITS OWN. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. OKAY YEAH, I JUST IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT. WELL, PERSONALLY, I FIND THOSE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS VERY ATTRACTIVE. HE COULD GET THIS REZONED AND FLIP THE PROPERTY AND SOUTH SOMEONE ELSE WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VISION. SO I THINK WE SHOULD NOT CONSIDER THE DEVELOPER DON'T CLAP YET. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE DEVELOPER AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE PLANS WE SHOULD JUST CONSIDER. DO WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REZONE THESE LOTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? YES. YES. AND SO DO YOU. DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? YES I HAVE ALL THE CARDS THAT ARE ON THIS ISSUE, THE OTHERS OF THE OTHERS.

PUBLISHED THESE MEETINGS ON ZOOM AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW. YES, THEY ARE ALL HUH? SO I HAVE A COULD COMING. SO UM, AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED, TONIGHT IS JUST A MATTER OF ZONE IN AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT STEP TO CONSIDER WHAT IS APPROVED SO. WHERE IS BOB? HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE YELLING OUT OR WE COULD TAKE MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE GET THE YELLING COMMENTS. IT'S HARD TO GET THE RECORD AND TONIGHT IS THE LP A MEETING NO MATTER WHAT IF IT'S DENIED OR GRANTED, IT WILL STILL MOVE FORWARD AND GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND WOULD BE A CITY COMMISSION ITEM. THE CITY COMMISSION VOTE IS THE BINDING VOTE. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION OR AN ADVISORY BOARD. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR VOTE IS, WHETHER IT'S UP OR DOWN, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S UP OR DOWN. IT MEANS THAT'S WHAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION. ONE STREET. WE NEED TO DO A FORMAL PART, SIR. COMMENT ABOUT YOUR NAME, OKAY? I'M LOOKING TO I BEFORE WINDS AT THE END OF THE STREET IN A CONDOMINIUM. FIRST ONE MY ONLY QUESTION I GOT YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH. FIRST QUESTION, AND THERE'S NO PART OF IT ANYMORE AT ALL. THERE'S NO PART OF IT. I WAS SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS, THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING SHOWS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF PARKING IN THE FRONT. WAS ALL THE SETBACKS AND THE HOUSING BEING TIGHT. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR PARKING OR A DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THE PLACES THAT MEANS THEY'RE GONNA PARK IN THE FRONT. I COULDN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. SIDEWALK ISSUE. I'LL TALK BEFORE I'M DONE, BUT KIDS WALK DOWN THROUGH THERE. YOU GOT NOWHERE TO GO. AND LONG. AMAZON THE MAILMAN. ANYBODY TO STOP YOU CAN'T GET BY. WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY GO AROUND AND GO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, WHICH IS IN THE WRONG WAY AND THE WRONG DIRECTION EVERY DAY. I'LL TELL YOU IN THE MORNING.

SIDEWALK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I CALLED ZONING. I WAS THERE, THE DAILY AUTHORITY FOR, SIR.

PLEASE ADDRESS IT TO THE BOARD. ALL HE DID WAS PUT BY PLANTS IN THE CORNER. NONE OF THE OTHER END. HE TOOK THE DEBRIS AND PILE IT UP ON THE SIDEWALK SO NOBODY COULD WALK THROUGH. WAS UNSAFE IN MY OPINION. IT'S ON HIS PROPERTY. THAT ATTITUDE TELLS ME HE HAS NO CONCERN.

SIR. MR WHITE. I'LL JUST NEED YOU TO FILL OUT A BLUE CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE. SORRY. THAT'S ME TALKING OVER HERE, DECLARE JUST A BLUE CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. SO JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE ZONE NAME DOES CHANGE FROM OUR WONDER ARE

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TWO GENTLEMEN STILL HAS TO COME BACK WITH THE SITE PLAN AND SO ANYTHING? IT WAS THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE P U D THAT WE WOULD THEN OR NO, HE COULD JUST BUILD WHATEVER HE WANTS, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE PARKING. LIKE HOW HONEY? I'LL EXPLAIN THAT SO THE ZONING WOULD BE THAT WHATEVER THE ZONING IS, SO WHATEVER THE ZONING ANYBODY HAS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY COME IN AND THEY PULL A PERMIT A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. WITH THAT IT'S REVIEWED AGAINST THE CITY'S CODE AND THOSE THAT CODE AS A PROVISION FOR SETBACKS BUILDING HEIGHT. UM. DRIVEWAYS PARKING GARAGES, EVERYTHING THAT A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WOULD BE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE LOT COVERAGE IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. THAT IS THE. OUTLINES THAT YOU SEE ON THE CONCEPTUAL OR THE ALLOWABLE SETBACKS. VERY CONFUSING IN THAT'S THAT'S THE MAXIMUM PARAMETERS. THE ZONING CODE ONLY ALLOWS 50% OF THAT LOT TO BE COVERED BY BUILDING OR PERVIOUS. IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. SO THERE'S IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, IN FACT, IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD ENTIRELY OUT TO YOUR WHOLE SET BACKS. THAT IS NOT ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED DURING NORMAL ZONING. MM. ACTIVITIES. SO CAN I. MY THINGS. I THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE WATER AND THE SWALES ON FAIR ONE. AND MAYBE I TOOK. WE HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE IN THE CITY THAT YOUR WATER HAS TO BE KEPT ON YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THAT IF YOU PUT OUT MORE WATER THEN YOU CAN HOLD. YOU HAVE TO BUILD A RETENTION AREA. YOU HAVE TO GO A WATER GARDEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR OWN WATER AND I AM CERTAIN THAT IF HIS WATER WENT INTO ANYONE ELSE'S YARD THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE THERE QUICKLY. YOU FIND HIM? BECAUSE THEN SURELY THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. SO I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP YOU FEEL MORE. BUT. ARE WE READY TO THE VOTE? NEEDED MOST. HE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE. I COULD MAKE HIM EMOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS VILLAIN IN CHANGE FROM OUR ONE JAR, TOO. I LIVE IN AN AREA VERY MUCH LIKE THIS, AND PARKING IS SOMETIMES THE PROBLEM. BUT I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS AND WE MOVE OUR CARS FOR EACH OTHER. THERE ARE MANY. SO I EMOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS TICKING FORWARD FROM OUR WONDER ARE. TOO ANYTHING, I BEEN THINKING, BRINGING SECOND. DID SOMEBODY JUST SAY ONE SEX THAT I MISS? I THINK IT WAS A PHONE. OH, SORRY, LINCOLN. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY OKAY? GOODBYE. OKAY? DO YOU DO THAT? YOU'RE THE CHAIRMAN. TAKE PLEASE TAKE ROLL PART. BOARD MEMBER BROMFIELD. I'VE PROVED. VICE CHAIR DE LA VEGA. CHARLIE GREEN.

I DO NOT APPROVE. REMEMBER VITALY? I APPROVE. THE MOTION PASSES. TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE IT IS BEST MAJORITY OF VOTES. OKAY. WE WILL TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK TO SWITCH. YEAH. MG AGAIN. HELLO IF EVERYBODY COULD TAKE A SEAT TO ME GET STARTED AGAIN. ARE WE BACK ON THE RECORD? WE'RE ALREADY BACK ON THE RECORD, SO YOU'RE BEING TAPE RECORDED. ALSO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. I FORGOT, BUT THE CITY MANAGER ASKED ME IF I COULD GIVE THE BOARD MEMBERS CITY OF STUART MASKS. ALL RIGHT, DON'T HAVE TO WEAR THEM, BUT HE WANTED TO GIVE YOU I COULD THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, BUT IT WAS THIS. I'LL TELL YOU WITH THE FILTERS HAPPY. OH, UH, ALL RIGHT. SO WHERE WE GONNA GO BACK TO HAVE THE WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE FIRST PRESENTATION. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE MR MAYOR.

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CENTRAL PARKWAY LOFTS - MAJOR AMENDMENT TO RPUD (QUASI-JUDICIAL)(RC):

 

ORDINANCE No: 2461-2021: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING A 6.65 ACRE PROPERTY CONSISTING OF TWO PARCELS OPPOSITE ONE ANOTHER ON S.E. CENTRAL PARKWAY APPROXIMATELY MIDWAY BETWEEN ITS INTERSECTIONS WITH S. KANNER HIGHWAY TO THE WEST AND U.S. HIGHWAY ONE TO THE EAST TO APPROVE A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE “CENTRAL PARKWAY LOFTS (NORTH)” AND THE CENTRAL PARK LOFTS (SOUTH) RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (RPUD) CONSISTING OF ONE HUNDRED NINETY SIX (196) MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WITHIN FIVE (5) INDIVIDUAL FOUR-STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS; WITH SAID LANDS BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS AND A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT; DECLARING THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

 

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MR RITZ. OK AND HERE, IT SAYS MAYOR. OKAY. THEY GAVE IT AWAY. HE STARTED GOING ON. FANTASTIC.

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THANK YOU. OKAY? WAS PRESENTING COMRADE SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD, OKAY. GOOD EVENING. L P A, UM. YES, THIS IS THE 2ND 1ST ITEM. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR THE FIRST AND NOW IT'S THE SECOND IT'S CENTRAL PARKWAY LOFTS, RPG. IT'S A MAJOR AMENDMENT. ON THE APPLICANT IS THE FEDERAL BUILDING COMPANY INCORPORATED. SO THE SITE CENTRAL PARK NORTH AND CENTRAL PARK SOUTH STRADDLE CENTRAL PARKWAY. ABOUT MIDPOINT BETWEEN CANADA HIGHWAY AND US ONE. IT'S THE SITE TO PARCELLS EQUALS 6.65 ACRES IN TOTAL. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY UM. REZONED TOE RPG, RPG IN 2000 AND FIVE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR A MIXED USE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN FACT, MR FREEMAN. WORKED HERE AND WAS THE PLANNER AT THAT TIME, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER HIM TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY OF HOW HE AND THIS YEAH, THIS IS ORIGINAL APPLICATION CAME INTO THE CITY AROUND 2000. AND SIX HE'S BEEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE TIME LINE'S BEEN EXTENDED ON A TEST ONE OCCASION TO AROUND 2008, BUT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR FOUR STORIES.

RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THERE WERE 84 PROPOSED AT THAT TIME. THE UNITS WERE FAIRLY LARGE MOST, IF NOT ALL, BEING LARGER THAN 2100 SQUARE FEET. S SO THEY WERE QUITE LARGE UNITS. UM.

THAT THE U D AS REALLY BECOME DEFUNCT. NOBODY. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THAT, AND IT'S IT LIES THERE. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL OVERRIDE THAT. P UT. THANK YOU, MR FREEMAN. OKAY, SO THE LAND USES OFFICE RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WILL REMAIN THE SAME. IT WILL SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE 196 APARTMENT UNITS. THE ZONING WILL REMAIN RPG AND IT WILL BE A MAJOR AMENDMENT. SO WE CAN SEE THE SITE EXIST MAINLY NORTH TO SOUTH. THE APPLICANT HAS REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB IN LAYING THE BUILDING'S OUT AROUND IT. TWO WAY I'LL UH, TO A I'LL. BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE FROM ONE END OF THE PROJECT TO THE OTHER. UM INSIST OF PARALLEL PARKING. GENEROUS GREEN STRIP. NATIVE PLANNING'S AND TREES TO CREATE A SHADED PAY, STREETSCAPE. THERE'S ALSO GENEROUS SIDEWALK, AND THEN THEY ESCAPING UP AGAINST THE BUILDING. PART OF THE RPG REQUIRES OPEN SPACE AND THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE INCLUDES RETENTION AND BUFFER AREAS. AND THE AFRICAN HAS PROVIDED THAT. AT 27% OF THE SITE. OPEN SPACE FOR RPGS IS 30% SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE VARIANCES THAT THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR, AND I'LL GO OVER THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. ALSO, THERE'S AN EXISTING. THAT WILL REMAIN AND BE. DECIDE REDESIGNED AND MAY BE RECONFIGURED AS PART OF THE FUTURE WILL BE EXTENSION. WHEN SHOULD THAT COME IN AT A FUTURE DATE, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS PREVIOUS OWNER HAS. DONATE ARE NOT DONATED, BUT DESIGNATED. PROPERTY 30 FT. TOWARDS THIS RIGHT OF WAY. AND, UM, SO THAT EXIST IN PERPETUITY AS RIGHT AWAY AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. WITH THE WILL BE EXTENSION. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ON OTHER PROJECTS WAS ATTAINABLE HOUSING. AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED. TO DESIGNATE 20 OF THOSE UNITS THAT'S 10% ROUNDED UP OF THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS RENTED AT NO GREATER THAN 80% OF THE AM I AND MARTIN COUNTY. UM MR FREEMAN HAS SOME NUMBERS

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AS FAR AS HOW MUCH THOSE WOULD ONE BEDROOMS WOULD GO FOR. SO THE 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME IS BASED ON THE MARTIN COUNTY. PAULSON LUCY AND ESSAY, WHICH FOR A ONE BEDROOM UNIT IS 1000 ON 41. DOLLARS PER MONTH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM RENTAL. LIMIT. FOR THOSE TYPE OF UNITS, SO THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO HAVE 20 UNITS LIMITED TO AROUND THAT RENTAL LEVEL. AND THAT WOULD BE IN PERPETUITY FOR THE PROJECT. THERE'S NO TIME SAID OUR SUNSET ON THAT. ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT OR BETTER TO SAVE IT. SURE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, SO I SEE IT'S THE 2010% OF THE ONE BEDROOM UNITS OR IS IT ALL OF THE UNITS? ALL THE UNITS TWIST 20 TOTAL UNITS OF THE WONDER I HAVE. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION RIGHT NOW TO GO AHEAD AND ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVED? THEY PROMISED HIS FIST AND THEN IT WAS SO OLD AND THE NEW OWNER CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT AND WE HAD RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? SO DIFFICULT TIME. THIS IS THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AMENDED BEAUTY AND BEFORE THAT IS BECAUSE IN 2004 BOARD WENT THROUGH. THE FDA APPROVED IT AND THEN CITY COMMISSION APPROVED IT. AND THEN THE OWNERS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER CHOSE NOT TO DEVELOP IT, WHETHER IT WAS ECONOMIC OR SIMPLY LOSS OF INTEREST OR THE RECESSION OR THEY DECIDED THE MARKET DIDN'T SUPPORT THE LOFTS PROJECT THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED AS BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE 3000 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. THEN, AS A RESULT, IT FADES AWAY. IT DOESN'T GET BUILT WHEN THIS COMES FORWARD INSTEAD OF RESCINDING THAT PD AND HAVING A SPECIAL ITEM JUST TO RESCIND THAT BEAUTY WE BRING THIS FORWARD IS AN AMENDED BEAUTY. IF THIS GETS DENIED. THERE'S ESSENTIALLY NO ZONING BECAUSE THAT PD IS EXPIRED ANYWAY. BUT IF THIS GETS GRANTED. THE AMENDMENT ITSELF IN THE TITLE SEARCH. REASONS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS A PROJECT THAT WE RECENTLY APPEARED WITH THIS SAME SITUATION, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOLD AND IT'S GONE. SO WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED THERE? WAS WE? I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAVANNAH PLACE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THEY DID COMMIT TO A NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE ATTAINABLE HOUSING UNITS. THAT PROJECT CHANGED HANDS. THE NEW OWNER CAME IN ON NEGOTIATED RATHER THAN APPLYING THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS TO THE DEVELOPMENT TO PUT A CONTRIBUTION OF TIME OF CEO INTO A FUND A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS. WILL BE PROVIDED TO A CITY HOUSING FUND IN LIEU OFF THE HOUSING, ON GUY SHOULD KNOW. THE GUY THAT BOUGHT THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS BOUND TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE PD. HE ACTUALLY AMENDED THAT BY COMING TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND PROVIDED NOTICED EVERYBODY WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS AND HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND PRESENTED THAT AMENDMENT. FROM THAT CONDITION TO THE FINANCIAL CONDITION AND THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THAT. SO IF THIS WERE TO BE GRANTED AND THEN SOLD, IT'S STILL A RECORDED BOUND DEED RESTRICTION UNTIL THE COMMISSION CHANGES IT. THANK YOU. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCES IN YOUR PACKET. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS AND READ THIS AND WONDERED EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR 44 VARIANCES ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE CODE. WHICH WILL AND MAY BE OFFSET BY AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THOSE AMENITIES DURING HER PRESENTATION. JUST TO GO OVER THESE REQUESTED VARIANCES AND DETAIL, DENSITY. THE CODE ALLOWS BETWEEN ARE UP TO 15 DWELLING UNITS BY RIGHT AND UP TO 30 BY THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. IN THE AFRICAN IS ASKING FOR 29.47 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. OPEN SPACES. I ALLUDED TO EARLIER IS BEING PROPOSED AT 27. OR 30% IS REQUIRED. THERE'S ALSO A SECTION IN CHAPTER FIVE THAT TALKS ABOUT NATIVE VEGETATION SINCE THE SITE IS BASICALLY BARE AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY NATIVE VEGETATION THE AFRICANS REQUIRED. TO PROVIDE 25 25 FT STRIP OF VEGETATION NATIVE ON THE SIDE IN THE REAR. IN FACT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 15 FT. NATIVE PRESERVE ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. IN

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BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ON THE PROPOSED MOST MULTI FAMILY. THEN, FINALLY, THE PARKING THREE CODE REQUIRES 1.5 PARKING SPACES FROM ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS AND TWO PARKING SPACES FOR TWO BEDROOM AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. AND THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING AN AVERAGE OF 1.31 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT AND. AND AGAIN THESE CONGEE THESE VARIANCES COULD BE OFFSET BY AMENITIES AND OR THE APPLICANT SAYING THAT THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE NEED IN MIND OF PARKING AND WHAT HAS WORKED AND. AT THAT POINT, I'LL JUST HAND IT OFF TO THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. EVENING AGAIN. MARCELLA CAM BLORE PLANNER. OR WITH FARROW DEVELOPMENT GROUP. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER CONSULTANTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS. I BELIEVE MOST OF THEM ARE ON ZOOM EXCEPT FOR MR DON QUADS. OH, WHO'S I'M ALSO PLANNER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT. AND HIS FIRM, ACTUALLY NOT JUST HIM. SO THANK YOU. UM.

WHICH ONE IS FORWARD. SORRY, I SHOULD KNOW WHAT. OKAY SO, UM. THIS IS AN INTERESTING MEETING FOR ALL OF YOU TO HAVE IT AS YOUR FIRST MEETING. WHAT IS IT FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE OR SOMETHING? UH STAFF EXPLAINED WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. AND YES, IT IS A NEW EXISTING RPG ZONING THAT WE ARE AMENDING TO, OPEN OUR P O D. ZONING. IT IS. ARRANGED DIFFERENTLY AND YES, HAS A DIFFERENT DENSITY PROPOSED, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNIT TYPE PROPOSED WHAT WAS PROPOSED THERE AT THE TIME, REALLY LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE PLANS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT MARKET CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT NOW AND THE NEEDS FOR HOUSING IN THE CITY AND THEREFORE RECONFIGURED. PARTLY BASED ON THAT THING, THE SITE TO THE NORTH HAS INTO THE WEST IS SURROUNDED BY PRETTY UNIQUE.

OPEN STAYS ON. I'LL GET INTO THAT DETAIL IN THE SECOND. UM TO THE EAST. THERE'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES WITHIN THE CITY OF STUART. AND COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THESE AIR COMMERCIAL UNITS AND FLEX SPACE. OFFICE SPACE RIGHT HERE. THERE'S A CANAL AND A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THE DIVIDE THE PROJECT FROM UNINCORPORATED MARTIN COUNTY DOWN HERE. THIS IN THE COUNTIES IS ARTIE ZONING, WHICH IS OUR MOBILE HOME ZONING. SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO A RECENTLY APPROVED TOWN HOME, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME DETACHED. I'M NOT SURE I THINK IT'S CALLED SEASIDE DEVELOPMENT GATED SUBDIVISION HERE AND THEN RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL, MORE RESIDENTIAL. AS WE GO EAST. SO THIS THIS QUARTER THAT WAS ONCE ENVISION TO THE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL QUARTER IN THE CITY HAS BEEN SLOWLY CONVERTING INTO A RESIDENTIAL STAFF MENTIONED. UM. BETWEEN THE LAST RPG AND THIS ONE. THERE HAS BEEN THAT DEDICATION OF RIGHT OF WAY. UM TO THE COUNTY. IT WAS A PURCHASE, BUT IT WAS AN AGREED UPON PURCHASE.

NO TAKING. THERE'S ALSO A KNEES MEANT AND THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO THE SOUTH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF RIGHT OF WAY SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAYS TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH. NOW, THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID WHEN APPROACHING THIS NEW PROJECT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST GO.

10,000 FT UP. AND LOOK AT HOW THIS IS WORKING WITHIN THE REST OF THE CITY. ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE THINGS IS THAT THIS VERY UNIQUE PIECE THAT STRADDLES BOTH SIDES OF CENTRAL PARKWAY IS ALMOST THE HEAD START OF THE MOST AMAZING NATURAL FEATURE. IN THE CITY, THE PUBLICAN CREEK AND THE SORT OF SORT OF THE GREENWAY AND BLEW AWAY THAT TRAVERSE IS THE ENTIRE CITY. HAD THE CITY PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE, AND CITY PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS ALL I BELIEVE IT'S ALL CITY OWNED. THE LIGHT GREEN IS PRIVATELY OWNED. BUT THERE'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ALL THE WAY. TO THEO END OF THE CREEK RIGHT HERE. AND IT JUST CREATES A VERY UNIQUE ABILITY. IF WE SET THIS PROJECT OF CORRECTLY TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE TO EXPERIENCE CITY LIVING AND NATURE LIVING. NOT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS PROJECT AGAIN, BUT FOR THE CITY IS THE HOLE, SO THAT WAS SORT OF THE FUNDAMENTAL GUIDING PRINCIPLE AND WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, IMAGINING IN OUR OFFICES. WHAT IF YOU COULD GET YOUR BICYCLE WRITE IT AND NO, YOU'D ESSENTIALLY ALMOST BE DOWNTOWN

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WITHOUT EVER HITTING ROAD AND WE TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THAT POSSIBILITY. THE SECOND INTERESTING THING IS THAT THIS SITE. AGAIN ONCE ENVISIONED AS PURELY COMMERCIAL. IS NOW REALLY AT THE HEART OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF STUART WITHIN A THREE MINUTE BIKE RIDE, THERE'S THE LARGEST SECOND LARGEST EMPLOYER IN MARTIN COUNTY, WHICH IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WITHIN JUST A TWO MINUTE BIKE, RIGHT? YOU GET TO THE NODE OF THE INTERSECTION OF MONORAIL ROAD AND US ONE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST RETAIL NODES AND RESTAURANT NODES IN THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY. AND SO PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION OF INCREASING DENSITY IS LET'S PUT PEOPLE WHERE THE JOBS AND WHERE THE RETAIL ARE SO THAT NOW WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT EVERYBODY GONNA LEAVE THEIR CARS FOREVER. BUT AT LEAST IF WE CAN PROVIDE SOME THINGS NEARBY. WHEREAS SOME OF THEIR TRIPS BY CHOICE COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. IT'S AGAIN WITH THAT. THEN WE SAW WHAT CAN WE DO TO THE PROJECT? UM TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE THINGS AND SUPPORT THE CITY IN THOSE EFFORTS TO THERE'S ALSO TWO BUS LINES THAT GO THROUGH THE CITY, THE ONE THAT GOES ALL ALONG US ONE, AND THEN THE LOOP AND THIS IS AGAIN STRATEGICALLY LOCATED. TOW ACCESS EITHER OF THOSE MM. YOU KNOW, AND WE WAIT TRULY BELIEVE AND JUST ME PERSONALLY BY WORKING A LOT WITH THE CITY THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS A MORE BALANCED MOBILITY HERE. THIS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A COMMERCIAL. I WAS LAST WEEK, VISITING LAKE KNOWN A FOR A DIFFERENT LOCAL PROJECT. THESE ARE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES. HE'S THEIR CUTE LITTLE BUSTED. THIS ONE'S CALLED ALI. THEY ARE. THEY'RE MADE WITH A THREE D PRINTER. WHICH MAKES THEM VERY, VERY QUICKLY MADE AND VERY INEXPENSIVELY MADE. THEY'RE MADE IN THE U. S. UM. IN LAKE KNOWN A. THESE HAVE A VERY INTENSE ROUTE THEY GO EVERY 15 MINUTES. THERE'S NO DRIVER. AND SCARY AT FIRST, AND IT'S VERY EXCITING. THEY GO VERY SLOWLY. BUT EVERY 15 MINUTES YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE AND THE REASON I'M SHOWING YOU THIS IS TRADITION ALREADY HAS THEM. TRADITION HAS THE SAME COMPANY WORKING IN THEM, AND BY THE WAY, THE PERSON THAT MET US IN ORLANDO TO SHOW US THIS AMAZING THING THEIR VICE THEIR PRESIDENT LIVES IN STUART WE NEED AN OLLIE AND STUART BUT PART OF THIS IS AGAIN THINKING THAT WHEN WE'RE BRINGING A PROJECT FORWARD, WE'RE BRINGING IT NOT JUST FOR TODAY. BUT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AS WELL. AND A LOT OF THINGS AIR CHANGING WHEN IT COMES TO TOO, PARTICULARLY TO PLANNING INTO TECHNOLOGY. THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED APPROVED PLAN WHERE THESE TWO U SHAPED PROJECTS I COVERED DOWN HERE INADVERTENTLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE TWO PROJECTS THIS PROJECT WAS LARGER THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY, BUT NOT BY MUCH, JUST BY 5% BUT IT HAD PRETTY MUCH HALF THE UNITS. TWICE IN 5% MORE. THE DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS A FOUR STORY BUILDING. AND AS MR MARTEL EXPLAINED, THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK THEN WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS? IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED ALONG CENTRAL PARKWAY, WHICH IS GATED. WHICH HAS A GREAT AMOUNT OF AMENITIES, BUT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THERE. THE FERAL GROUP DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN. THEY BELIEVE IN THE CITY THEY BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY AND SO HE SAID. WELL YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? CAN WE FRONT CENTRAL PARKWAY? IT'S A HARD STREET TO MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND SO THEY DECIDED TO CREATE. AN INTERNAL NEW STREET. IT'S INTERNAL NEW STREET ESSENTIALLY CREATES A SIGNATURE ADDRESS. IT'S NOT GATED SO ANYONE CAN COME IN HERE OR GO OUT THERE. IT'S TWO WAYS. BUT ONCE YOU COME IN, YOU CAN ALSO LOOP AROUND AND COME BACK OUT. OR LOOP AROUND AND COME BACK OUT, AND SAME THING. TWO LOOPS ON BOTH SIDES AGAIN. KEEP IN MIND THIS RIGHT HERE WILL EVENTUALLY BE THE WILLOUGHBY. EXTENSION THEY PERVS IT WILL GO. AROUND THIS WAY. THE POINT WAS NOT JUST TO CREATE THIS THING THAT YOUR ADDRESS, BUT TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE GREEN AND THAT POTENTIAL TRAILHEAD SHOULD THE CITY DECIDE. IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO WORK ON HAVING ACCESS TO THIS. GREENWAY AND PATHS THROUGH THE NATURE AREA INTO THE MORE URBAN PARTS OF THE CITY. HAS PROPOSED A STAFF,

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SAID 196 RESIDENTIAL UNITS 10 OF THEM ATTAINABLE WORK FORCE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY THAT IS USED IN PROPOSAL 25% OF THOSE. ARE GOING TO BE AGED, TARGETED OR AGE RESTRICTED AGAIN. IT WAS A WAY TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOZ MIXED INCOME AND MIXED AGE A LITTLE BIT BY DESIGN TO REALLY CREATE SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S PEOPLE THERE EVERY DAY THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE RETIRED, AND THEY'RE NOT. LIMITED TO LIVING IN, YOU KNOW, ANADE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY. THAT IS JUST THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO, YOU KNOW GRAND PARENTS WHEN THE BABY SAID SOMEBODY ELSE'S KIDS WHEN THEY'RE AROUND. I WISH I HAD THAT RIGHT NOW, ON. SORRY PROPOSED CLUBHOUSE RIGHT WHERE THE PREVIOUS PROJECT HAD A BIG A COMMERCIAL USE AGAIN A COMMERCIAL USE THAT NOWADAYS WOULD PROBABLY BE ISOLATED. AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT RETAIL IS THAT RETAILERS WE KNOW IT HAS DISAPPEARED, AND UNLESS IT'S REALLY TIED AND ANCHORED MY OTHER LARGER USES. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT WORK. UM. THE VARON SAYS, AND IT'S TRUE STAFF SPOKE ABOUT THREE VERY FOUR VARIANCES. THESE AIR VARIANCES RELATIVE. TO EXISTING ZONING. THE ARE THREE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, RIGHT? A PD IS NEW ZONING THAT YOU CREATE, SO I'M OKAY. I ALWAYS A LITTLE PET PEEVE. I AGREE THAT IT'S PART OF THE CREATION OF NEW ZONING.

AND SO YOU COMPARE TO THE CLOSEST ZONING THAT YOU HAVE. AND YES, IN EXCHANGE FOR THESE THAT STAFF MENTIONED THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NUMBER OF BENEFITS. SO THIS IS THE FIRST VIEW OF THE FOUR STORY AH! RESIDENTIAL. BUILDINGS THAT STEP DOWN ONTO THREE STORY TERRACES ON BOTH ENDS. AND CREATE AT CENTRAL SPINE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE RELATION TO THE TO THE UNITS IN THE BACK IS AFTER OUR. LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A CANAL AND A STREET AND THEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND THERE WILL BE, I THINK, AN 80 FT WIDE.

ROAD ON THIS SIDE AS WELL. THAT'S FINE THAT ALLOWS THE ACCESS ONTO THIS GREEN NETWORK, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE. UM AND. IN THAT STREET. I MEAN ON THIS, THEN WE'RE LOOKING SOUTH.

CENTRAL PARKWAY IS BACK HERE. TRYING TO RECREATE ONE OF THE MOST WALKABLE PEDESTRIAN OR E ANTED ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IN A ROAD LIKE CENTRAL PARKWAY. THAT IS ANYTHING BUT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. IT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE WAY THE ROAD IS DESIGNED TO IS THAT IT'S DESIGNED AT GRADE. SO THE PAPERS ROAD AND THE ON STREET PARKING AND THE GROUNDS. AND THE SIDEWALK BY THE WAY, IS SIX WITH SIDEWALK ALL ALONG. EVERY ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS AT THE SAME LEVEL. THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT CREATES A VERY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT. BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO INCORPORATE INNOVATIVE URBAN LIGHT IMPRINT STORM WATER. I MEAN, IT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO ENTEBBE OF THE STORM WATER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY. AND BY THE CODE, WE'RE PROVIDING THESE GREENS WHERE OTHERWISE, IF YOU HAD THESE CURBS AND GUTTERS AND THE TYPICAL THING THAT TAKES IT ONTO YOUR STORM WATER, WE'RE PROVIDING THESE SYSTEM OF GREENS THAT ALLOW FOR WATER TO BE CLEANED AND PLACE, WHICH IS HOW IT'S DONE NOW IN MORE URBAN PLACES, AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND THIS ENTIRE SPINE. IS A LITTLE STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT IS NOT BEING COUNTED TOWARDS THE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY PROVIDING.

HAVE YOU FROM THE FROM THE STREET AND. I WOULD SAY WHAT'S INTERESTING OF THIS.

DEVELOPMENT TO IS IT IS MASONRY, MODERN ARCHITECTURE. ER, UM IT'S YOUR FIRST MEETING, SO YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT NOT YOURS. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT USED TO SEEING ONE AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER BUILDING COME THROUGH OF MORE TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL, MORE FLORIDA VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE. HOWEVER THE MASONRY MODERN IS AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT IS EMBEDDED IN OUR FLORIDA, SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. UM HISTORY. I MEAN, IT STARTED WITH THE ART

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DECO, AND FROM THAT IT PROGRESSED TO THE MASONRY MODERN. THIS DOES SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S NOT JUST A CAPRICIOUS STYLE CHOICE. STUDIES THERE ALSO SHOWING US THAT IT WILL BE A RENTAL COMMUNITY. THAT MY 2030. 70% OF THE GLOBAL WORKFORCE, NOT JUST THE U. S BUT THE GLOBAL WORKFORCE WILL BE MILLENNIALS AND GENERATION SEE, AND A LOT OF WHAT THEY ARE FAVORING IN THE MARKETS RIGHT NOW IS SIMPLER, CLEANER, MORE SUSTAINABLE, LESS ORNATE POSSIBILITY OF USING ROOFS FOR SOLAR PANELS TRYING TO DO OTHER, MORE INNOVATIVE THINGS. I TRIED TO SHOW SOME EXAMPLES, AND I PICKED IN PARTICULAR A COUPLE OF PHOTOGRAPHS AND SEASIDE FLORIDA EVERYBODY THINKS THAT SEASIDE FLORIDA IS THE QUINTESSENTIAL NO CRACKER, LITTLE FLORIDA VERNACULAR TOWN, AND IT'S SCATTERED WITH TONS OF EXAMPLES OF MASONRY, MODERN ARCHITECTURE. THE THING IS, THEY'RE VERY WELL PLACED. AND SO IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE PROPERLY LOCATED, THE ARCHITECTURE'S DOES NOT STAND OUT A ZONE EYESORE. THE COMMUNITY CLUBHOUSE WILL HAVE GENERATOR.

IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE SHELTER IN PLACE IF THERE'S A HURRICANE, AND THERE'S THIS IS A GENERATOR THAT KICKS IN, AND IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO EVACUATE AND YOU STAY IN YOUR VERY SOLID MASONRY BUILDING, I MEAN AND THEN RUN OUT OF POWER. YOU DO HAVE A PLACE TO GO. AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY HAS BEEN REQUIRING IN THEIR PD'S AS PART OF THE BENEFITS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ASKED THIS IS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AGAIN IN ORDER TO ENSURE A MIX MIX OF INCOMES AND A MIX OF AGES. SOME OF THE UNITS WILL BE MORE CONVENTIONAL RENTAL UNITS AND OTHERS WILL BE THREE BEDROOMS WITH TWO CAR GARAGES THAT YOU CAN RENT VERY COMPETITIVE TO HAVING. A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH TWO CAR GARAGES. EXCEPT YOU'RE IN A VERY URBAN AREA. YOU HAVE YOUR AMENITIES. YOU REALLY DON'T WORRY ABOUT MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT CAN THESE TWO GENERATIONS WE SEE ARE DOING JOB CREATION IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT ABOUT WHEN CONSIDERING PDS. THIS DEVELOPMENT GROUP IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON TWO OTHER PARCELS IN THE CITY AS WELL. JUST FOR THIS. IT IS ANTICIPATED. THIS PROJECT. IT IS ANTICIPATED. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE FIVE. PERMANENT NEW POSITIONS.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FIVE LOCAL CONSULTANT FIRMS, OF COURSE, CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO CREATE HUNDREDS OF TEMPORARY JOBS, BUT THERE'S DOZENS OF PERMANENT CONTRACTS FOR MAINTENANCE THAT THIS WILL GENERATE AND ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE THEY HAVE SELECTED A LOCAL BUILDER TO WORK WITH THEM. AS I MENTIONED THE BREAK BETWEEN 10% WORKFORCE 25. AGE TARGETED AND THE REMAINDER CONVENTIONAL UNITS. THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS INCREDIBLE FACILITY THAT I KNOW IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, STAFF WILL BE CALLING ME TO SEE WHEN WE CAN GET STARTED. UM. LONGEST, ARE OUR THE MIDDLE PROPOSES THAT IF THE CITY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, A CONDITION WHERE MAYBE THERE'S EDUCATION ABOUT THE TYPE OF LANDSCAPING THAT IS IN THERE, OR SOME SORT OF AH THE TRAILHEAD WITH ECO ART. AGAIN WHAT WOULD THAT PATH AND TRAIL COULD LOOK LIKE INTO THE CITY? AH CONDITION OF PEW DS AND THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE OF POINTS THAT ARE AWARDED. UM, YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T REALLY GET COUNTED IS HAVING RECYCLING FACILITIES. THAT APPLICANT IS NOT ONLY COMMITTED TO OBVIOUSLY HAVING THE RECYCLING FACILITIES THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PERMANENT. STAFF THERE TO SUPERVISE IT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO. THEY'RE COMMITTING TO EDUCATING THEIR TENANTS. EVERY TIME THEY COME IN, YOU KNOW, I MYSELF EVEN MY NEIGHBORS SOMETIMES DON'T KNOW IF THIS YOU RECYCLE OR THIS, YOU DON'T BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT AS AS YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT OCCUPY THE BUILDING BECAUSE. BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT BEING RENTALS THERE WILL BE MORE EDUCATION ABOUT UH, BUT YOU KNOW THE RECYCLING. I DON'T KNOW WHY ALL THE IMAGES ARE JUST GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND COVERING THE WORDS. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. AS I MENTIONED, UM. THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. THIS IS NOT A CODE REQUIREMENT, BUT THEIR SIDEWALKS FRONTING EVERY BUILDING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THIS STREET. THIS IS COMPLETELY I MENTIONED THE LAND FOR THE RIGHT AWAY, THE THOUGHT IS

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AGAIN WITH MULTI MODAL FACILITIES. UM. INCREASING IN THE CITY AND EVEN THE CITY HAVING THERE. PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT YOU CAN MANAGE WITH YOUR PHONE OR WITH AN APP. THE CLUBHOUSE IS BEING DESIGNED AND PUT ON THE STREET SO THAT IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR TRANSIT, YOU'RE WAITING, EITHER INITIATED AREA IN THE CLUBHOUSE OR EVEN INSIDE UNTIL YOU KNOW THE BUS IS COMING, SO IT IS BEING DESIGNED AS THE WAITING AREA. OR ANY FUTURE PUBLIC.

TRANSIT OR EVEN IF KIDS HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR SCHOOL BUS, THE LIGHT IMPRINT STORM WATER. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A BIKE SHARE PROGRAM. THEY'RE GOING TO GET BICYCLES AND PAINT THEM A SPECIAL COLOR AND LEAVE THEM THERE FOR ANYONE TO USE AGAIN, TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE ALTERNATE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, PARTICULARLY SINCE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS YOU CAN ACCESS. AND THIS. THIS COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT. PEOPLE UM, USUALLY AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES ARE TRYING TO CUT DOWN COSTS. I MEAN, UM LITERATURE SHOWS US THAT IT'S MORE OF A ONE CAR HOUSEHOLDS THAN A TWO CAR HOUSEHOLD. WHEN YOU'RE RETIRED AND SO BETWEEN THE PROXIMITY TO THESE AREAS, THE BIKE SHARE LOWER REQUIREMENT OF CAR USAGE FROM FROM THE 25. APARTMENTS WE BELIEVE THAT THE RATIO OF PARKING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE, AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN IN ONE MORE SECOND. THEA CLICK AND IS ALSO PROPOSING FOR VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, TWO ON THE NORTH SIDE AND TWO ON THE SOUTH SIDE. I BELIEVE THAT MOST BEAUTIES ARE COMMITTING TO HAVING THE WIRING PREPARED FOR THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN THERE AGAIN BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THEY'RE BRINGING DENSITY. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ON THERE AND ALL THE MEANS TO TRULY HAVE UM YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE OTHER MEANS OF MOBILITY. ON ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE LIST IS UNIVERSAL DESIGN ELEMENTS BECAUSE THIS IS RENTAL. YOU'RE MANDATED. YOU FOLLOW THE FAIR HOUSING ACT DESIGNED MANUAL WHICH REQUIRES THAT EVERY UNIT IS ESSENTIALLY PREPARED IN THE CASE THAT YOU HAD TO CONVERT THOSE FOR ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES. NOT EVERY BATHROOM NEEDS TO BE 88. BUT EVERY BATHROOM IS DIMENSION FOR 88. IT'S A LOT HARDER TO DESIGN IN THAT MANNER. EVERY SINGLE UNIT IS PREPARED AND AGAIN. THE AT GRADE ROAD MAKES THE ENTIRE PROJECT. 88 ACCESSIBLE. THEA ARCHITECTURAL AND THE POSITIONING LENDS ITSELF SO THAT THERE'S ALWAYS ONE SIDE OF SHADE. THIS IS ORIENTED NORTH SOUTH, WHICH IS THE SUSTAINABLE WAY SO THAT YOU HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT OF DIRECT SON. BUT YOU KNOW, BUT ENOUGH LIGHTING AND ENOUGH SHADE, WHICH AGAIN IS AN ENCOURAGEMENT OF BEAUTIES. FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. AND SO WITH THAT, I MEAN, I DO HAVE ALL SORTS OF IMAGES OF PLANS AND FLOOR PLANS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ASK TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. YEAH I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. UM, I THINK THAT THE SORT OF TRADE OFFS MAKES SENSE TO ME. BUT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR QUITE A FEW EXCEPTIONS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE. OUT OF IT, SO I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING, BUT THAT'S ALREADY DONE. THAT'S WONDERFUL. MY OTHER MAIN CONCERN IS THAT A LOT OF THE OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE WHILE INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED IS PARKING LOTS AND THE ROAD. AND WHILE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, I THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT ASK FOR IS PARTICULARLY ON CENTRAL TOE HAVE THE PLANTINGS BE MORE MATURE TREES SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING MANY YEARS TO HAVE THAT I'LL BE FILLED OUT. ON BY THINK THAT THAT'LL ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE MOVING BY. UM AND THEN THE OTHER, UM. WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD TO SAY? WHILE YOU THINK CENTRAL IS A CITY STREET SO WE COULD PLANT THE MEDIAN TOO, RIGHT? YEAH, SO WELL, THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY MY OTHER. IF IT IS COUNTY, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO FOLLOW OTHER DISTANCE RULES. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF A STRAIGHT IS. IT SEEMS TO ME. HUH? SO HE MAINTAINED COUNTY OWNED, OKAY. OH OKAY. AREA RIGHT HERE. YOU HAVE TO GET BACK IN THERE.

THANK YOU DID THE RIGHT AWAY TO THE CITY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, WELL, GOOD. YES I THINK TOTALLY

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FEASIBLE THAT YOUR SHADE TREES ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS A CROSSWALK IS THERE IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF LIGHT ACROSS ONE BECAUSE ESPECIALLY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THAT POOL AND THERE'S KIDS AND IN A THREE WAY THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY DANGEROUS SECTION. SO IT IS E IN. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AND I THINK THAT AT ONE POINT WE DISCUSSED. NOT JUST A CROSSWALK, BUT AN ENTIRE TREATMENT OF THE SECTION OF ROAD BUT FROM HERE TO HERE, WHETHER IT'S JUST COLORED CONCRETE OR SOMETHING AND A CROSSING WHAT? WE'RE HAPPY TO SIT WITH STAFF AND DISCUSS. IMPROVEMENT TO DO TO TRANSITION FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER INTO, YOU KNOW, JUST I MEAN, IMPROVED THAT ADDRESS THAT PIECE OF CENTRAL ABSOLUTELY AT THIS POINT, WE DIDN'T TARGET THE CITY OWNED RIGHT AWAY. BUT YES, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY DOABLE. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. A FREE RIDE LIKE THAT. HAVE A LOT.

WELL YOU'RE ASKING FOR DOUBLING THE DENSITY, SO WE'RE GOING FROM 15 VERY MM. OKAY. AH, LOT.

MM. IS THAT BETTER PAIN THAT WORK? OKAY, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR DOUBLING THE DENSITY. THAT'S A LOT, RIGHT. SO. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT ONE. MY NEXT, SAYS THE PROMISE OF ACCESSING THE TRAIL. YOU'RE ONLY HAVE 1.3 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. WHERE WILL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO TAKE THAT? GO THROUGH THAT TRAIL PARK. SO I CAN GO BACK TO THE DENSITY FIRST TO, UM AND I MEAN, SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE. UM I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR DENSITY IN THE RIGHT PLACE. MY MOON ADVOCATE FOR ONCE WE DISTURBED THE LAND WE DISTURB IT CORRECTLY IN THAT PLACE, LEAD IS A VERY IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE LEADER IN OUR NATION ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND LEAD AND DELETE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT. THE MINIMUM SUSTAINABLE DENSITY TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT ANY TYPE OF FUTURE TRANSIT IS 32 UNITS TO THE ACRE AND IT'S NOT 32 JUST ON THIS PARCEL. IT WOULD BE 3200 AREA WIDE. IF IN THE FUTURE, WE LOOKING NOW I GET IT. LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO GET LYNCHED. LEAVING THE CITY INTENDS MARCEL IS THAT THE WHOLE CITY HAS TO GO TO 32 UNITS TO THE ACRE. HOWEVER I MEAN AGAIN. WHERE WHAT? WHAT ARE THOSE PLACES IN THE CITY THAT WE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO LOOK 10 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I'M A PLANNER SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE. DOING CALM PLANS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. WE'RE BETWEEN. TWO BUS LINES THAT WERE STRUGGLING AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE RIDERSHIP ON AND THIS COULD BE BY ADDING VERY SIMPLE FACILITIES BEGIN TO SUPPORT THE WRITER SHIP AND THOSE IN THOSE BUSSES THAT WE'RE OPENING IT. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I MEAN INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS JUST IN OUR BACKYARD JUST IN THE POTSDAM AREA ARE 35 38 40 42. SO, AZIZ, YOU KNOW IT'S ABOUT DESIGN. YES. MORE DENSITY BRINGS MORE CARS BRINGS MORE PEOPLE. LESS DENSITY DOESN'T GUARANTEE A SMALLER BUILDING AS WE SAW IT WAS. IT WAS A BIGGER BUILDING THAT WAS ALL AUTO ORIENTED AND AUTO DRIVEN WITH ABSOLUTELY NO POSSIBILITY TO LOOK AT THE AT A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE ON THE SECOND ISSUE, WE ARE DEDICATING SOME PARKING SPACES, BUT THIS IS A CITY OWNED PARK IN THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY, AND I I'M ASSUMING THAT IF THE CITY CONSIDERED THIS TRAIL IMPORTANT ENOUGH, WE COULD AUGMENT THE PARKING THAT IS THERE FOR THE DOG RUN IN THE DOG PARK AND CONNECT THOSE A LITTLE BETTER SO YOU COULD COME AND PARK BY THERE IN OUR PROPERTY OR THE CITY PARK. TAKE THE TRIP. YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING AS AN ASSET FOR THE CITY BECAUSE I JUST SEE A ROAD THAT DEAD ENDS INTO A BUILDING. THIS IS ALL I KNOW.

THIS IS ALL GREEN. IT WOULD BE THE BEGINNING. ALL THIS, DRIVING DOWN CENTRAL PARKWAY AND I'M GONNA BE GOING TO THE END OF THAT ROAD, AND THEN WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? SO YOU WOULD BE GOING AND WE WOULD BE APPLYING WHAT JACKIE SAID. AND WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO TURN HERE AS IT WAS GOING TO. THERE'S PARKING SPACES ALL ALONG HERE. THESE ARE NOT DEDICATED FACES. YOU COULD PARK HERE. ON A TRAIL HEAD. THIS IS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE, THE AREA WITH NATIVE VEGETATION THAT WE'RE REPLANTING THAT THAT MR REED'S TALKED ABOUT, AND THIS IS CITY OWNED, AND IF THERE WERE A TRAILHEAD RIGHT HERE, YOU COULD PARK GET YOUR BIKE.

POSSIBLY ENJOY THAT GREEN IF YOU WANTED TO COME HERE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT FORCING ANYONE TO COME. BUT IT THE PROJECT WAS ALLOWING OTHERS, RIGHT? I MEAN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING.

THIS YEAH, THERE'S A PRETTY. PRETTY HARD CUT HERE WITH THE COUNTY OWNED WITH WITH THE

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UNINCORPORATED COUNTY LAND HERE. ALL THESE PEOPLE COULD COME AND WRITE. AND ESSENTIALLY IF WE GAVE THIS ONE, AND THIS ONE IS GETTING EVERYTHING IS. ESSENTIALLY CUT OFF FROM THAT AMAZING FEATURE. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE THIS THIS DONUT. THE DESIGN. WE CAN'T GUARANTEE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE IT. BUT THE DESIGN IS THINKING ABOUT THEON PERTUAN ITTY TO CREATE A NATURE, URBAN CONNECTION THAT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T NEGATE BUT KICK START AND SO ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN SOME OF THE TRAIL INTO REPUBLICAN CREEK AREA? I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY EVEN HAS RIGHT. THEY HAVE NOTHING RIGHT NOW. EXCEPT THAT. IT'S A CONSERVATION AREA. IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT THE THING THAT COULD BE DONE HERE IS IF YOU PUT A TRAIL HEAD AND PUT A WATER FOUNTAIN ON THE LITTLE MAP AND THINGS THAT YOU COULDN'T DO FURTHER IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE UTILITIES. WOULD WE'RE DOUBLING THE DENSITY LOWERING THE PARKING, BUT ALSO WE'RE GOING. WE'RE GOING FOR IT. YOU'RE GETTING INSTEAD OF A 25. FT BUFFER. YOU'RE GETTING A 15 FT BUFFER. AND THERE'S ONE MORE. WELL AND THAT SUFFERED. LET ME JUST REPHRASE THAT HAD WE HAD ANY NATIVE VEGETATION, EVEN A LITTLE SPECKLE OF NATIVE VEGETATION. THE SETBACK WOULD HAVE BEEN 15 FT. SUPPOSED TO 25 OF NATIVE LANDSCAPING. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE OUT THERE. THERE'S. HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT THERE'S ZERO NATIVE VEGETATION THERE, SO THAT DOUBLES THE REQUIREMENT, NOT DOUBLES. ADDS 10. FT. OF REQUIREMENT OF RECREATING THIS.

NATIVE ENVIRONMENT MANMADE ESSO HAD AGAIN HAD WE HAD ANY WE WOULD HAVE RESPECTED THAT AND MAINTAINED THE 15TH. IT'S UM IT'S UNUSUAL THAT THIS KICKS IN UM OKAY, WELL, A LOT OF GOOD.

YES UM, I AGREE. THE DENSITY IS VERY SEVERE, AND I REALLY STUDIED THE PARKING AND I CAN'T MAKE SENSE OF IT BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU HAVE 32 BEDROOMS AND STILL IT'S JUST ONE PARK IN SPACE AND TO MY CALCULATION, I WOULD SEE THAT YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST 314 CAR PARKING SPACES. IF YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE IT LEAST 2, 43 BEDROOMS AND MAYBE 1.6 AS YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS AND I WOULD SAY, MAYBE 1.5 FOR THE ONE BEDROOMS AND YOUR GUESTS. PARKING CURRENTLY. YOU'RE OFFERING ONE PARKING GUEST SPACE FOR 40 RESIDENTS FOR THE CALCULATION HERE, AND THAT IS NOT. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT COULD BE REASONABLE. SO WHAT WERE THE QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING PEOPLE COULD PARK AND UTILIZE THAT THE AREA BUT WERE THEY GONNA PART? IF THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO USE IT? I REALLY DON'T SEE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SPACE AND I MEAN, I AGREE. I THE 1.6. UM RATIO THAT WAS MENTIONED BY STAFF. I THINK REALLY STEMS FROM DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN LOCATIONS THAT ARE REALLY HOT. OH ORIENTED LOCATIONS. I BELIEVE THAT WAS OVER BY WAL MART ON US ONE AND ON INDIAN STREET AND CAN. THIS IS THIS IS NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS HAD THE COMPOSITION OF 25 A QUARTER OF THOSE UNITS. DEDICATED TO AN AGE GROUP THAT AGAIN THE LITERATURE IS SHOWING US REALLY HAVE USED LESS CARS. TRY TOE, YOU KNOW, CUT DOWN COSTS. THEY'RE MOSTLY ON FIXED INCOME AND SO USUALLY CUTTING DOWN TO ONE CAR. IS THERE. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT CANNOT SPILL OUT ONTO NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORING STREETS. SO IF IT YOU KNOW, USUALLY THE PROBLEM OF APPROVING A PROJECT WITH VERY LITTLE PARKING IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE START BOTHERING THE NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO PARKING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PARKING ON PROPERTIES NEXT DOOR. WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW. WE ALL MISS READ THE TECHNOLOGY AND WE CAN'T GET BALANCE MY ABILITY TO WORK.

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THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED. BYE. THEY JUST BACK TO AN AERIAL. CLEAN. UM I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I CAN GET TO AN AERIAL. YEAH. SO EVERYTHING AROUND THIS PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IS BUILDINGS IN THE SEA OF ASPHALT. HOWEVER THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT ALL THOSE OFFICE USES ARE USED FROM 9 TO 5 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SHOULD THIS IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, FAIL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND DO THE SAME THING THE CITY DOES WITH PARKING LOTS IN TOWN. FOR THE SHARED PARKING RATIO AND LEASE PARKING SPACES FROM THEM. I MEAN, THOSE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NOT GOING TO BE GOING ANYWHERE. SO, UM I AM. BUT I CAN'T SEE HOW WE CAN APPROVE SOMETHING ON THE IDEA THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A LEAST WITH THE NEIGHBORING. NO, YOU'RE NOT. I THINK IT ZIT EITHER COULD BE A CONDITION IN THE BEAUTY. THAT IF YOU KNOW IF PARKING FAILS AND THE PROBLEM WITH A RENTAL COMMUNITY OR WITH ANY COMMUNITY WHEN PARKING FAILS, PEOPLE PEOPLE LEAVE. IF YOU CAN'T PARK YOU DON'T RENT THERE. IT'S NOT AGAIN SOMETHING THAT IS IMPACTING CITY STREETS.

NOBODY CAN PARK ON THE STREET HERE, AND IT'S ALSO IT USED TO BE THAT THE HIGH PARKING STANDARDS WERE DRIVEN YES, BY SUBURBAN ZONING REGULATIONS, BUT THEY WERE ALSO DRIVEN BY, UM, FINANCING. IT USED TO BE THAT IF BANKS DIDN'T SEE A 1.5 RATIO OF PARKING PER UNIT, NOT 1.6. NOT 2.5 IF THEY DIDN'T SEE THAT THEY WOULDN'T PROVIDE UM, FINANCING THAT HAS CHANGED COMPLETELY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE WHOLE NOTION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, NOT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD TO THINK FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. WELL UM, I MEAN, I LOVE TO LOOK FUTURISTIC LEE MYSELF, BUT AESTHETICALLY, I. I AM HAVING A PROBLEM AT THE FOUR LEVEL IN THAT LOCATION AND BEING THAT IT'S RIGHT TO THE TO THE DRIVE ON ON CENTRAL PARK. UM IT JUST I DON'T KNOW. IT IS JUST SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IT'S IS AESTHETICALLY I DON'T THINK IT WORKS THAT THE FOUR LEVEL IN THAT AREA IT WAS APPROVED FOR FOUR STORIES. YEAH. CURRENT APPROVAL IS A FOUR STORY. IT'S VERY DENSE. I MEAN, THAT CREATED ADDITIONAL DENSITY ALSO, YOU KNOW FOR THE PARKING AND I DON'T SEE WHAT'S. WE GOT A PUBLIC PROMISE. I'M GONNA NEED TO KNOW A COUPLE OF COMMENTS NUMBER ONE. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THOSE ALI'S MISS CAMPBELL IS GOING TO DONATE, BUT THAT COULD PROBABLY START THE PARKING TOO. MM. ALI'S FROM ORLANDO THAT YOU POINTED OUT THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT, AND SECONDLY, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION DURING HER PRESENTATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT CENTRAL PARKWAY WAS ORIGINALLY COMMERCIAL. PERSON SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT WAS COMMERCIAL AND BE CONTEMPLATED FOR MULTI FAMILY, MULTI FAMILY. IS COMPATIBLE WITH COMMERCIAL.

IT'S NOT LIKE PUTTING A HIPPOPOTAMUS IN A DUCK, CONDIT'S ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATED THAT THE TWO ARE COMPATIBLE USES. SO WHEN YOU HEAR IT, SAYING COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL IN THIS MULTI FAMILY YOUR EGGS. MORE THAN FIVE UNITS ARE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL SO THAT FALLS IN THE SAME COMPATIBILITY AND STAFF DIDN'T COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR OPINION THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE. YOUR COMMENTS ARE ALL WELL TAKEN OR WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE MULTI FAMILY USE RATHER THAN A TRUE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IS REALLY NOT ANY DIFFERENT. YEAH. YEAH.

IF I COULD ADD TO THAT. UM THE UNDERLYING. UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE. WE ALWAYS LOOK AT HOW THE PROPOSAL INTERACTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM. AND WE GET CAUGHT UP IN SAYING THAT'S AH DOUBLING OF THE DENSITY OR IT'S AN INCREASE IN DENSITY. IF WE GO BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FORESEES AND PERMITS UP TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE. SAFEGUARD TO THAT IS THAT THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A DOUBLING OF DENSITY. IT'S AN APPROVAL OFF IDENTITY, WHICH IS ALLOWED AND THAT'S REALLY THE COMPLEXITY OFF THE SYSTEM THAT WE RUN IN THE CITY WHEN WE MOVE INTO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO, SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM ABOUT THIS A MAXIMUM ALLOWED NECESSARILY

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WHAT WHAT SHOULD GO ON A SITE, BUT IT'S WHAT IS YEAH, AND THAT YOU YOU'RE CORRECT, BUT THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR SEES THAT IT WOULD BE THAT WAY ON THE CITY'S SERVICES IN THE CITY'S PLANNING IS BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS. THANK YOU. COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE DENSITY? I THINK IT'S A DIRTY WORD IN MARTIN COUNTY, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T OFTEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A TOTAL HOUSING CRISIS HERE. WHICH IS MAKING THIS INTO A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A FUTURE UNLESS WE FIND A WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, AND I THINK THAT'S SMART DENSITY. IS FOR ME THE WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

NOW, THIS IS CERTAINLY A MORE EXTREME VERSION OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S WE NEED TO PUT THESE HOUSES SOMEWHERE. WE NEED TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF STEWART, AND CLEARLY THEY DON'T WANT IT ON STAGE STABLE, OVERHEARD, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS DANCING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IF WE DEVELOP OUR CITY BASED ON NIMBYISM, THEN WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE A FUTURE. UM. ROBIN PART RIGHT? EVENING ROBIN CAR 8703 SOUTHEAST HIBISCUS. YES I AM A CITY OF STUART RESIDENT MOVED OVER FROM THE COUNTY JUST SO I COULD ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. I'D LIKE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION OF BEFORE I GET MY THREE MINUTES TO START, PLEASE, IS, IS IT THE 80% OF THE. IS IT ONLY ONE BEDROOMS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR HELPING THAT'S THE WAY THE CONDITION IS WORD IN THE MOMENT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT.

THAT APPLYING TO ANY TYPE OF UNIT I UNDERSTAND. SO THE I AM I WOULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE BEDROOM NUMBERS OF THOSE UNITS, AND THAT IS A YOU KNOW, A SUGGESTION FROM THE L P A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT SHOULD APPLY TO A VARIETY OF UNITS. THEN WE WOULD WRITE INSERTED CONDITION THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THINGS. I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO THE DENSITY. GET THE BUILDING UP. TAKES LESS WATER. IT TAKES LESS LAND SPACE. I GET THAT. I AGREE THAT WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE TYPE OF HELL THING THAT WE NEED IN MARTIN COUNTY. AS A RESULT OF LIVING IN WHITE MARSH. I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON WITH COSTCO BEING BUILT ON CANDOR HIGHWAY RUNNING THROUGH TO WILLOUGHBY. AND AS A RESULT, IT CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND SOME OTHERS TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ABOUT WHAT HOUSING LOOKS LIKE IN MARTIN COUNTY. SO USING THE NUMBER THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION OF 1041 A MONTH FOR RENT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE UTILITIES. IF YOU TAKE THE ANNUAL SALARY OF A PERSON IN MARTIN COUNTY WHO NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN THE CITY OF STORY, AND IN MARTIN COUNTY IS A HOLE. USING THE PORT ST LUCIE NUMBERS THAT ALSO COME INTO THAT MATRIX. ONE PERSON USED TO MAKE $19.85 AN HOUR WORKING A FULL 40 HOURS A WEEK. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE RENT UTILITIES. THEREFORE THEIR RENT AND UTILITIES WOULD BE $1032. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING THAT ARE ON THE WAITING LIST CURRENTLY FOR THE CITY OF STORES AND FOR MARTIN COUNTY IS RIDICULOUS. WE HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THEM. I AGREE COMPLETELY. WE HAVE A SEVERE HOUSING SHORTAGE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO I APPRECIATE THAT PROJECTS AIR COMING IN. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD CURRENTLY, 10 PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT IN A SILO WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFIC STUDIES WITH REGARDS TO WHAT RENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. IF YOU TAKE THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE OF THE VETERAN'S BRIDGE. WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY UNITS IN A MIXED USE PROPERTY, SAYING THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE DON'T WE HAVE HOUSING THAT IS ATTRACTING PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH. FROM THE NORTH TO MOVE HERE BECAUSE WE'VE A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE. HOWEVER WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO LIVE WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. THERE SHOULD BE A FOCUS ON EMERGENCY SHORT TERM HOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WORKFORCE, HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS WE'RE NOT ACCOMMODATING THE VOLUME OF LOWER INCOME EARNERS WHO NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. AND I THINK, AS WE'VE ALL SEEN AS A RESULT OF THE COVERT CRISIS, WE HAVE A LARGE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN A RESTAURANT INDUSTRIES WHO WORK IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. WHO ARE NOT MAKING $19 AN HOUR AND THAT IS THE MARTIN COUNTY NUMBER THAT IS HIGHER THAN MOST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THE CITY NEEDS TO GROW AT GET THAT, BUT IT'S NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT IS NEEDED. CITY'S WEBSITE.

SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OR ITS SHAREHOLDERS, AND THE CITY IS BASICALLY SELLING ITS STOCK SHORT. BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE BUILDERS WHO WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT. AND IN ORDER TO MAKE A PROFIT, THEY NEED TO SELL THE LAND. THEY NEED TO HAVE RENTAL

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OPPORTUNITIES THAT PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INCOME. I GET THAT IT CREATES A TAX BASE FOR THE CITY. I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT. IT DOESN'T SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE. COME ON, THANK YOU, UM. LIN OKAY. RICHARD. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO YOUR 1ST 1ST PORT MEDIUM, IT APPEARS TO BE AN INTERESTING ONE. MY NAME IS LINDA KING RICHARD'S. I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, STUART. MY ZIP CODE IS 34 DAY, 94. I LIVE RIGHT ON THE BORDER WHERE THE CITY HAS AN EXTENDS SO MUCH LAND. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING AND EXPLOSION THAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF STORY. YOU GUYS THINK THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH HOUSING AS YOU SEE FROM THE HANDOUT? THERE'S NINE APPROVE PROJECTS INTO PENDING HEY, AND I DON'T LEAVE. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, SO NOT INCLUDING WATER MARK MARK, WHICH IS IN NORTH STUART. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS. HIDDEN KEY CENTRAL PARK LOS SCANNER. SEE YOU PEOPIE IN BRIDGEVIEW ARE ALL ONE CAN OR HIGHWAY WITHIN AND, LOT LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF OF EACH OTHER. HARBOR GROVE TRILLIUM SPRING TREE ARE ALL ON US ONE ABOUT JUST OVER A MILE FROM EACH OTHER. HEY, IN THE PIPELINE THERE, 1002 UNITS ALREADY APPROVED TO BE BUILT.

396 PROPOSED WHICH YOU GUYS WILL SEE SOON IS WHAT THE CANDOR SEE YOU P D IS ASKING, AND THAT INCLUDES TWO RESTAURANTS RETAIL DRIVE THROUGH AND A COSTCO. ON BEN, THERE'S THESE 196 UNITS THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. ROMANY POPULATIONS STANDPOINT, BASED ON USING THE 2.6 PERSONS PER UNIT, WHICH IS WHAT THE HOUSING USES. THAT'S NEARLY 5000 NEW PEOPLE. BEING HERE. THAT'S 30% OF TODAY'S POPULATION. HOW CAN WE HANDLE THIS TYPE OF GROWTH? OUR SCHOOLS THERE ALREADY A CAPACITY IS THE CITY GONNA BUILD NEW SCHOOLS OR THEY GET EXPANDED. WE HAVE. ARE WE JUST GOING TO SEE A DEGRADATION OF OUR GOOD? UM, EDUCATION SYSTEM. ROADS THEY'RE ALREADY CROWDED. HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE 4000 MORE CARS LIVING IN THE CITY? THAT'S 4000 NEW PARKING SPOTS IN THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THAT'S 4000 NEW CARS. LIVING IN OUR CITY. HEY, WHAT'S THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT? IMPACT OF ALL OF THESE CUMIN OF EFFECTIVE THESE PROJECTS? RELOCATION WILDLIFE RUNOFF POLLUTION INTO OUR ARMORED. YOU ALREADY FRAGILE, VERY LIGHT POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. FINALLY, WHAT ABOUT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE? ALREADY. WHAT? EVERYTHING I MENTIONED DIRECTLY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO EVERY RESIDENT OF STEWART AND THE MARTIN COUNTY AREAS THAT ARE AROUND, STUART.

SCHOOLS, TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENT NOISE, LATE SAFETY. WE'RE NOT PRESERVING OUR QUAINT SEASIDE TOWN BY CRAMMING MULTI FAMILY FOUR STORY BUILDINGS AT EVERY TURN. JUST PICK IT BECAUSE 1000 PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. EVERY DAY. DOES NOT MEAN IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE UP OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. OR ENVIRONMENT ARE SMALL TOWN. CITY OF STUART NEEDS GROWTH. IT NEEDS SMART GROWTH. DO WE WANT TO BE MORE URBAN? DO WE WANT TO HAVE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, FIVE STORY BUILDINGS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO COME NEXT. I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN SUSTAIN THESE PROJECTS. I AM ASKING YOU AS THE OPA TOE. LOOK AT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

CUMULATIVELY. AND THEN. BEFORE WITH YOUR DECISIONS ON THE DENSITY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ABOUT WORD IN YOUR VOCABULARY THAT THE CITY IS DOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BROWN GRASS.

HELLO AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE. UM I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH BOTH THE GIRLS SAID.

I LIVE IN THE COUNTY OF STUART MARTIN COUNTY OUTLETS, BUT I AM A BUSINESS OWNER IN DOWNTOWN STEWART HERE. HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN CANTOR HIGHWAY EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK IN THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA, AND THE TRAFFIC IS CAUSED THE TRAFFIC TO BE EVEN WITH THE FOUR LANES NOW. UM, THIS YOUNG LADY BACK HERE WAS TALKING ABOUT BICYCLE PATHS AND RIDING DOWNTOWN. I DON'T SEE IF IT'S THAT IT'S EVEN SAFE ENOUGH TO RIDE BIKES WITH ALL THESE VEHICLES. SO, UM. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I'M OUT OF MY ELEMENT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SPOKEN FRONT OF PEOPLE BEFORE AND IN THIS TYPE OF THAT CITY, BUT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I

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LOVE MY COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE. AND I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION MORE OF A SLOWER TYPE GROWTH AND LET THINGS. CONSIDERATE OF THOSE OF US THAT DO LIVE HERE.

THANK YOU. OKAY WAY HAVE LUKE LATHE. GOOD EVENING. I'M LOOK LEITH. UM I'VE LIVED IN THE STATES THAT STUART FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS AND RECENTLY MOVED INTO SEASIDE BY MERITAGE THAT BUILDING THAT WAS GONNA BE BUTTING UP AGAINST THAT. FIRST OF ALL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THERE'S THIS CENTRAL PARK WHITE DOG PARK, WHICH IS A GREAT PLACE, AND THERE'S ALSO A BEAUTIFUL WALKING PATH AROUND THAT POND. YOU COULD MAKE A WHOLE LOOP. ON THAT AREA, WHICH A LOT OF FAMILIES LIKE TO USE. AND IT'S AH, A NICE COOL. PLAYING QUIET AREA FOR PEOPLE, YOU LARRY AND GET AWAY AND STUART UM, BUT HODGEPODGE OF COMMENTS ON THE SITE CURRENTLY IS NOT, BARON. I'M NOT BIOLOGIST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXOTIC SPECIES VERSUS INDIGENOUS SPECIES AIR THERE. THERE ARE SOME BEAUTIFUL TREES. THEY'RE CURRENTLY UM. THIS COMMENT PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER MUCH, BUT THERE'S NO DETACHED HOMES IN MARRIAGE. SEASIDE.

THEY'RE ALL TOWN HOMES. A STAR IS CENTRAL PARKWAY. THERE'S NEED REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY BUILD ENOUGH FOR PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SIDEWALKS. CURRENTLY IT'S NOT SAFE TO WALK DOWN THERE. THERE'S A SIDEWALK FREE AREAS GOING EAST TOWARDS THE BUSINESSES. AND YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO GO DOWN THERE AT NIGHT WITHOUT A SIDEWALK. UM WELL, ACTUALLY, I THINK THE COMMENT THE LADY BROUGHT UP ABOUT A PUBLIC SCENE CREEK PATH IS EXCELLENT. I KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOG PARK, THEIR SOCIETY SUCH A FADED SIGNS TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING THAT AREA.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA. AND SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UTILIZED SMARTLY, PERHAPS A SAFE TRAIL.

UM AND LASTLY, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT POSSIBLY INCREASING PARKING AROUND BY THE DOG PARK OR. SOMETHING ELSE TO ACCOMMODATE A TRAILHEAD. THAT DOG PARK PARKING LOT IS.

FOR ALL TIMES OF THE DAY. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT. MM. AND JUST WHAT WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER JUST THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE, AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL, QUIET AREA. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL. UM. BIRDS AND ANIMALS IN THAT AREA, AND, UM, I HOPE WE CAN KEEP THOSE. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE SHOW. I USED TO SAY. I LIVE ON IN THE NEW SEASIDE TOWN HOMES, AND IF YOU WOULD, WHAT IS YOUR NAME? MICHAEL STRAP. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. 356 SOUTH EAST SEA HUNT WAY. UM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE WEST OF WHERE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENTS AT ALL OF TOWN HOMES IN THAT AREA ARE ALL TWO STORIES. THERE'S NO FOUR STORY AND ACTUALLY, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE ME. THERE COULD BE IN THE FIFTH STORY ON THAT BUILDING. AND SOME OF THE STAIRWELLS. SO THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING IS NOT IN OF I WOULD SAY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE'S THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN THAT AREA. MY ONLY COMMENT THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S AN EXPECTATION OF ME WALKING. I WAS HERE IF THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT WHILE I'M HERE, AND I GENERATED THE EXPECTATION I CAN ADD. THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD TO COMMISSION AND IT IS A BEAUTY AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND TO IMPROVE THE PROJECT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE LIKE WAS SAD. WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN. YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE COULD BE? SO TODAY WE WOULD BE APPROVING THE CHANGES TO THE BEAUTY. AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE THERAPY. YOU D ITSELF. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A IT'S A BEAUTY. IT'S CONFUSING TO SAY IT'S CHANGES TO A BEAUTY. IT IS NOT COMING IN. SO THIS IS REALLY A BRAND NEW P D. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 15 NOTHING. STILL IN IT. RIGHT. OKAY SO THE BEAUTY CONSISTENT WITH A CALM BECAUSE LEE ROBERTS ISN'T HERE ANYMORE. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF TAKE YOU TO TASK. AND I DO REALLY DO NOT SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING ACROSS CENTRAL PARK LEE TO GO TO THAT POOL. RIGHT

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AND I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION OF ADDRESSING THAT CENTER DOING CROSSWALKS MAYBE DOING CUTS. UM OKAY. GO ON CENTRAL PARKWAY A LOT, AND YOU KNOW IT'S 40 MILES AN HOUR. I MEAN, IT'S A WONDERFUL ROAD TO DRIVE ON FAST. IT'S NOT POSTED. 40 MILES. ABSOLUTELY BUT I AM ONE OF THE ONES WHO DON'T FOLLOW IT AS WELL AS WELL. MOST PEOPLE RIGHT? HEY, LOOK AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE IT, AND MY HUSBAND GOT TWO TICKETS IN TWO WEEKS, IT'S NOT A VALID I MEAN, I AM.

I'M A BELIEVER THAT WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED OUR STREETS CORRECTLY AND THAT WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRAFFIC CALM AND TO DO THINGS BETTER. WELL WE JUST I MEAN, THE CURVILINEAR NATURE OF CENTRAL PARKWAY I BELIEVE WAS INTENDED TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN AND THE FACT THAT.

RIGHT? AND SO WE WAKEN RISE. AT LEAST OCEAN USED TO BE SPEEDWAY, RIGHT, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE LINES AND SO WAS COLORADO. WE DID NOT DESIGN THIS ROAD TO BE CROSSED. GO TO A YOU KNOW THIS SPLIT DEVELOPMENT IN HALF WITH A POOL ON ONE SIDE AND HOUSES ON THE OTHER. YOU OKAY? SO. I THINK, UM, DENSITY IS STILL MY PROBLEM. I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT MORE DENSITY THAN WHAT'S THE DENSITY ITS SEASIDE. SEASIDE TOWN HOMES IS MUCH LOWER BECAUSE IT Z TOWN HOMES AND ITS FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES THAT SIXTIES. THINK IT'S 80 UNITS ON SEVEN ACRES OR YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES. I AGREE. I'M ALL I'M SAYING IS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE IT? AND WE COULD WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY 28 24 26. I'M JUST. I AM NOT PLAYING HAPPY, I WOULD SAY 24 UNITS PER ACRE. I WOULD SAY 1.6 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. I WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT ROAD. GOING TO THE TOC ACROSS UM. AND THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST PROBLEMS. OKAY, SO I MEAN, SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IF IT IS AN ISSUE, I ASSUME, YOU KNOW, AS A PLANNER, I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING A NUMBER OF DENSITY RIGHT THERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CONCERN IS SOMEWHAT LOWERING THE DENSITY, RIGHT AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OKAY? AND FOR ME. IN ADDITION TO THE PARK IN I LIKE THE FIRST PRESENTERS STATEMENT THAT TRULY IS NOT OFFERING ENOUGHTO AFFORDABLE HOUSE AND REALLY IT BECAUSE IN THE END IN THE PAPER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I REVIEWED ONLINE. IT, SAID 20, AND THEN I SUBSEQUENTLY HEARD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MISSPOKE WHAT YOU SAID 10 10% OF THE UNITS, WHICH IS 20 UNITS, IF I COULD JUST TRY, MAN, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT IF YOU DO CONSIDER DOING MOTIONS, THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT PROHIBITS US. FROM CONDITIONAL IZING AND APPROVAL ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WAS PASSED AND I THINK 2000 AND LATE 2019 BUT THEY'VE OFFERED THIS AND WE CAN NEGOTIATE IT AND DISCUSS AND DISCUSS THE NEED, BUT IT CAN'T BE. I MOVE APPROVAL CONDITIONED UPON X NUMBER OF UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT COULD BE. I MOVE APPROVAL ON 1.6 PARKING SPACES AND SINCE YOU'RE THROWING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S GREAT, TOO. YOU CAN'T JUST BE CONDITIONED ON THAT. WE SAY, THOUGH, FOR EXAMPLE. WELL I DON'T APPROVE NOW, BUT IF YOU CAME BACK WITH 15, THEN I WOULD APPROVE. THAT IS THAT POSSIBLE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT REQUESTED YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DEVELOPER HOLE FOR THE DIFFERENCE THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING IN THAT STATE STATUTE. THAT'S NOT US, SO IT'S SO DEVELOPER WILL COME AND SAY SURE YOU WANT 45 THE DIFFERENCE OF RENT? YOU HAVE TO PAY ME WHICH IS HAS PUT EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I STRADDLE THE LINE AND I DO A LOT OF WORK FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. SO 10% IS PRETTY UNUSUAL. 5% IS WHAT MOST DEVELOPMENT OFFER WE'VE GONE TO 10% AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF TEACHERS. A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT AREA. WE BELIEVE IN QUICK ABSORPTION AND.

HONESTLY A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON. IN THE MANY THE LIST OF MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. IF YOU RECALL, MR VEGA AND THEY'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HIGH QUALITY, HIGH END RENTAL APARTMENTS. THAT'S THIS IS HIGH QUALITY, AND IT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT IS COMMITTING TO MIXED INCOME MIXED AGE, YOU KNOW, AND IN A TRUE COMMUNITY AND DOUBLE THE PERCENTAGE THAT IS NORMALLY I REALLY LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION. THAT IT MATTERS ONE

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WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT RELATED TO MARTIN COUNTY RATE AND WHAT THE CALCULATION IS FOR THAT. OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, MR FREEMAN AND MR REED'S BROUGHT FORWARD. HOT PLAN AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY COMMISSION INSTRUCTED THEM TO AMEND THE DEFINITIONS, TOMB OR SUIT THE CITY AS IT RELATED TO WHAT'S WORKFORCE HOUSING? WHAT'S WHAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ETCETERA. AND WHEN WE SENT THOSE COMPETENT AMENDMENTS TO TALLAHASSEE THEY REJECTED THEM AND SAID WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT AND SENT THEM BACK. SO. THOSE NUMBERS WERE WE TRIED TO MODIFY THAT AND IT GOT, DON'T WE? NO, I DIDN'T. THE CITY COMMISSION DID SO THE CITY TRIED TO MODIFY THAT JUST LITERALLY LAST NOVEMBER. IT GOT REJECTED. MM. MY DAD, CAN WE ARE YOU AND THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE IS THAT IT WASN'T JUST 11 BEDROOM APARTMENTS BUT THAT THERE WERE TWO BEDROOM THAT WAS AH, CONDITION SUGGESTED BY THE CITY. WAY YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SURE, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER BECAUSE THE RENT FOR TWO BEDROOM IS MORE THAN THE RENT FOR. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A FIXED PRICE, WHETHER YOU TAKE A THREE BEDROOM OR ONE BEDROOM. LIKE I SAID, WITH DENSITY. I MEAN, WERE YOU I AM NOT COMFORTABLE THROWING A NUMBER AND SAYING THE NUMBER, YOU SAID IS IN THE WORKS, BUT BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT WE COULD BE. I AGREE. TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING. WE SEE WHAT CHANGES YOU BRING AND THEN? YOU. CAN YOU CONCERT CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO THE NEXT EATING. HOWEVER YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOU HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

YOU CAN CONTINUE TO THE NEXT MEETING, MEANING THAT IF THIS WERE TO COME TO A VOTE, IT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED. OR YOU COULD APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS AND THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD BE. 1.6 PARKING SPACE CONSIDERED LESS DENSITY PUT IN CROSSWALKS. IT'S HOW OUR COMFORTABLE YOU FEEL, UM, DOING THAT. RENATE EMOTION IS WHAT WE MAY BE THE NUMBER YOU DEVOTE ON IT, AND THEN WE WOULD SAID. THIS CITY WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION. MAKE THE MOST. MOTION THAT WE, UM. THAT THAT YOU COME BACK, AND SHE WOULD SEE WHAT THE CHANGES TO 24 UNITS PER ACRE UM, THE PARKING, UM. NO, I'M KEEPING UP WITH ME, CROSS. WELL, THE CROSSWALK. OKAY? THINK CONDITIONS. UNITS IN A CAR ACROSS FLORIDA. THE LANDSCAPING.

TRIFLE. WOULD YOU LIKE MM. ANYONE ELSE WOULD'VE TAKEN AWAY. UM. EMOTION THAT WE APPROVE. TELL ME HAS GOT TO SAY MIKE. HELP ME HERE IF YOU HAVE CONDITIONS. THEN YOU HAVE TO MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY. AT THE MOST. OKAY, I MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU BRING IT TO 24 UNITS PER ACRE. UM, THE. DEAL WITH A CROSSWALK GOING ACROSS THERE AND DEAL WITH THE PARKING OF 1.6 PARTS PER UNIT. AND LANDSCAPING AND WHAT. AND MATURE LANDSCAPING AND MATURE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, UM. ALONG CENTRAL PARK CENTRAL PARKWAY. DO YOU WANT A SECOND? ONE SECOND TO RECORD INDIVIDUALLY. RIGHT? REMEMBER,

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VITALY, I PROVED. SURE THE RAIN I APPROVED VICE CHAIR DE LA VEGA. REMEMBER BROMFIELD. I DO NOT APPROVE. THANK YOU. OKAY? TWO WEEKS. THERE ANY FURTHER FOR REPUBLIC CARMEN? IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE EVENING? PLEASE MAKE A COMMENT. OH, MY GOOD NEWS STORY THERE. OKAY IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH STATE HE'S GONNA GIVE US OH, YOU DO HAVE YOU INDIVIDUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC. TASK BUT WHEN WE ASK THE PUBLIC DOMINATE, YOU DIDN'T READ THIS HAND. THAT'S YEAH, I GOT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M CAN AND CAN'T DO SO, UM, MY NAME'S PAUL SANDSTROM. I DON'T LIVE IN STUART. BUT I PRETTY MUCH GREW UP HERE. I WORK HERE.

I JUST LIVE IN JENSEN, 31 60, NORTHWEST AIR WOOD LANE. AS A 23 YEAR OLD WHO LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS. STILL AND YOU KNOW, IT'S I FALL INTO THAT BRACKET OF PEOPLE WHO ARE. LOOKING TO LIVE IN THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OLDER PEOPLE WORK FORCE AND THEN YOUNG PEOPLE. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THERE'S NO WAY I'M GONNA AFFORD TO, UH. TO LIVE ANYWHERE AND STUART OR JENSEN REALLY? UM, AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE. DEVELOPERS AREN'T REALLY DOING THEIR JOBS. I DON'T MEAN IN THAT WAY. IT'S JUST IT'S JENSEN BEACH, AND IT'S STUART. ALL OF MY HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS LIVE IN PORT ST LUCIE OR NOT ME NEAR HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND LIKE WHAT? MISS VITALITY YOU BROUGHT UP AND SAYING WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS. IT'S HOUSING CRISIS ON THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSES. IT'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE HOUSES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GROWING UP HERE TO LIVE. DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DO I T S O. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. BUT I DO KNOW I USED TO DELIVER FLOWERS FOR MY MOM AND AH, HUGE PORTION OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN STUART AND THE UNINCORPORATED MARIN COUNTY AREA AROUND STUART.

DON'T LIVE HERE. THEY ARE SNOWBIRDS OR THEY ARE RETIREES, WHICH IS FINE. WHAT WE KEEP LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP WE KEEP ON HIM OR MORE HOUSES MORE AND WAREHOUSES. BUT AT WHAT POINT ARE WE JUST BUILDING HOUSES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE TO JUST BUY THEM TO MOVE IN? RATHER THAN PEOPLE, TOO? GREW UP HERE LIKE ME. I GREW UP HERE I WANT I NEVER WANT TO LEAVE.

PEOPLE KEEP TELLING, YOU KNOW, I WANNA GO TO LIVE IN ORLANDO. NO, THANK YOU. I WANT TO STAY HERE. BUT WHERE CAN I STAY? YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN STAYING WITH MY PARENTS UNTIL THEY. LIGHTLY ASKED ME TO LEAVE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT. YOU HAVE TO BUILD A COTTAGE IN THE BACK YARD.

WELL, YEAH, WELL, I JOKE ABOUT THAT, THAT THAT'S KIND OF WANT. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS MULTIGENERATIONAL HOUSING. YEAH, BUT FAR FROM BEING BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO, UM YOU STAY WITH YOUR PARENTS AS LONG AS YOU CAN, WITH THE MINIMAL RENT AND THEO SECURE A WELL PAYING JOB QUICKLY TO SAVE UP TO BE ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW TO ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T I DON'T EVER WANT TO RUN. I WANT TO OWN A HOME. BUT IF I HAVE TO RUN A HAVE TO RENT, BUT. SOME CASES RUNS $1400, EVEN IF I SPLIT THAT WITH SOMEONE AT $700 FOR BOTH OF US, AND IT'S A ONE BEDROOM PLACE. BUT THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS ABOUT IT. I'M YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT WE ALWAYS VERY MUCH THANK YOU. E CONTAMINANTS SAY TO YOU THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HAD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS AND KEVIN'S DONE PRESENTATIONS AND THE SOME IN SUMMARY OF IT IS, IS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION DID NOT APPROVE ANY MULTI FAMILY. APARTMENT FOR IN EXCESS OF A DECADE, AND AS A RESULT, THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS. BUT THERE'S ALSO STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT IF YOU BUILD. 400 UNITS, AND THEIR $1500 A MONTH, BUT THEY'RE BRAND SPANKING NEW AND THEY'RE PERFECT. PEOPLE THAT AIR RIGHT NOW LIVING IN THE 1978 APARTMENT WITH NO POOL FOR 13, 50 OR 1400 BUCKS A MONTH, WE'LL MOVE TO THOSE 15 HUNDREDS, BUT NOW THE GUY THAT ONTO THE 78 APARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE POOL CAN ONLY GET 1100. HIS RENT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN OVER TIME JUST ON STRAIGHT MARKET FORCE AND CAPITAL PRINCIPLES.

AND YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S EVERYTHING IS A SOME KIND OF LITMUS TEST AND YOU DON'T GET TO KNOW UP FRONT. SO IT Z COMPLICATED TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS. JUST JUST TO ADD YES.

SPOKEN FIND SOMEBODY TO SHARE WITH YOU COULD GET A TWO BEDROOM. THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT 1200 A MONTH. AND I'M SURE $600 EACH YEAR IN CHARGE AT THE. ONE THIS ONE WAS JUST APPROVED.

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YEAH, FOR THE ONE TONIGHT IS 1200 A MONTH. THAT WOULD BE A TWO BETTER. YES. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING IS FURTHER WORTHY AS THEY WORK FORCE, BUT TWO BEDROOM IS JUST OVER 1200 A MONTH. SO TWO PEOPLE THAT'S AMAZING. GOOD QUITE USUALLY SHARE ONE OF THOSE, BUT THERE'S ONLY 600. MANY 16. YEAH. AND YOU DON'T HAVE RIGHT? NO. ONLY A LITTLE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS IS WHY I MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. YES. IT'S ALL IN FAVOR FOR THAT. SO YOU JUST MAKE YOUR MOTION AND THEN ALL IN FAVOR? AYE MAJOR. JIM. THANK YOU.

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