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[CALL TO ORDER]

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ORDER THE LAND PLANNING MEETING THIS EVENING? FIRST I'LL TAKE ROLL CALL OF THE MEMBERS.

MARGARET BRON FELL. I'LL CALL A ROLE FOR YOU. REMEMBER DALE OF IGA. REMEMBER BRUMFIELD.

REMEMBER STRONG? YEAH. REMEMBER MASSING HERE? REMEMBER MOTHERS. REMEMBER. BYE, TALI HERE. CHAIR LOREEN HERE. EVERYBODY WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. NOT THERE. HER ROOM WITH HER HANDS ONE DAY. WHAT A AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THIS EVENING. WE NEED TO APPROVE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES FROM TWO MEETINGS. FIRST, THE FEBRUARY 11TH MEETING. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE APPROVED. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. NEXT. ONE IS THE MARCH 11TH MEETING, WHICH REALLY WASN'T A MEETING. BUT IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TOE MAKE A MOTION SECOND. I WAS LIKE, OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. HIGH. OKAY, GREAT. FANTASTIC IN. WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? I CAN'T. ALL IN FAVOR. UH, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS EVENING? OKAY? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS AND KNOWLEDGE AND ITEMS? OKAY, WONDERFUL. OKAY. FIRST UP THE PALMETTO COVE

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PALMETTO COVE RPUD - REZONING TO RPUD (QUASI-JUDICIAL)(RC):

 

ORDINANCE No: 2463-2021: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, REZONING TWO PARCELS ON EITHER SIDE OF A 11’ PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY (ALLEY) ALONG SW PALM CITY ROAD, ON THE SOUTHWEST INTERSECTION OF SW HALPATIOKEE STREET, TOTALING 0.97 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY/OFFICE (R-3) TO RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (RPUD); ESTABLISHING THE “PALMETTO COVE” RPUD CONSISTING OF THIRTEEN (13) MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WITHIN TWO (2) INDIVIDUAL TWO-STORY TOWNHOME BUILDINGS; WITH SAID LANDS BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS AND A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT; DECLARING THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

 

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REZONING. GOOD AFTERNOON L P A BOARD MADAM CHAIR. NAME'S TOM REACHED IN YOUR PLANNER. BE PRESENTING TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. I WAS A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR YOU. SORRY THINKING THAT? YEAH, I'M GONNA SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. IF I COULD JUST BRING THIS DOWN.

APPLICATION IS A REZONING FROM OUR THREE TOE R P UT. THE PROJECT'S CALLED PALMETTO COVE.

SITES LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF HOW PATIO KEY AVENUE AND WEST OF PALM CITY ROAD ACROSS IN BACK OF THE PUBLIC'S. SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.97 ACRES. IT'S MADE UP OF TWO PARCELS.

SEPARATED BY CITY RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE EXISTING LAND USE HIS OFFICE RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WILL SUPPORT TODAY'S PROPOSAL FOR MULTI FAMILY UNITS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE REZONING IS FROM OUR THREE TO OUR BEAUTY. RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO THE SITE EXIST OF, SIX UNITS ON THE NORTH PARCEL. AND THE REMAINING SEVEN UNITS ON THE SOUTH PARCEL. BIG MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE MULTI FAMILY COMPLEX IS OFF FROM PUMP CITY ROAD. IT WILL USE EXISTING CITY RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED. THERE'S A SECONDARY EXIT FROM HOW PATTY OKIE STREET TO THE NORTH. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO, UM. PROPOSING SIX PARKING SPACES ON HOW PATIO KEY THAT WILL GO TOWARDS THE REQUIRED PARKING. THERE'S AN EXISTING ARE PROPOSED POOL AND CLUBHOUSE. PROPOSED DRAINAGE AT THE SOUTH OF THE SITE. IN AN EIGHT FT. SIDEWALK ALONG PUMP CITY ROAD. SO YOU CAN SEE THE VIEW IN THESE RENDERINGS FROM PALM CITY ROAD FACING WEST. QUITE ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS. THEY MEET THE CITY'S MINIMUM.

ZAIN SANDERS. EGGS ACTUALLY EXCEED THE CITY'S DESIGN STANDARDS. BOND THEN THE BOTTOM IS SOUTHWEST FACING. AND YOU COULD SEE THAT THE TWO PARCELS DIVIDED BY THE CITY, RIGHT? IMPROVED CITY RIGHT AWAY. AFRICANS ASKING FOR TWO VARIANCES TO THE CODE ONE BEING DENSITY AND THE OTHER THE BUFFER. UM LAND USE TRANSITION. AND FOR THE DENSITY, THE LAND

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USE POLICY A 0.72. ALLOWS UP TO 11.62 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IN THE OFFICE. RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY. UP TO 30 DWELLING UNITS BY CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. AND THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING ONLY 13.1 DWELLING UNITS BREAKER. SECOND REQUEST FOR DEPARTURE FROM THE CODE. UM HAS TO DO WITH THE BUFFER. AND THE REQUIRED. BUFFER IN THIS CASE WOULD BE A 0.75 FT. WITH A 35 FT TRANSITIONAL BUFFER WITHOUT ANY STRUCTURE. AFRICAN IS ACTUALLY MEETING PART OF THE BUFFERING CHOIR MINT IN THAT IT'S THE BUILDINGS HELD BACK 55 FT. BUT THEY'RE ONLY PROVIDING A FIVE FT LANDSCAPED AREA ON THE NORTH SECTION AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SECTION THERE, ONLY PROVIDING AN EIGHT FT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. OF THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED. A SIX FT WALL IN THE NORTH PARCEL ON LEE. AND THE SOUTH PARCEL IS SEPARATED BY AN EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE. SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING A WALL ON THE NORTH PARCEL. SAS RECOMMENDATION IS THAT. THEY INCLUDE A WALL IN THE SOUTH PARCEL THAT WRAPS NOT ONLY ON THE WEST BORDER BUT WRAPS AROUND TO THE SOUTH. AND THIS SEPARATES FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO. TWO CONDITIONS THAT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE. IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A FINAL SITE PLAN SHOWING TO BIKE RACKS AND ELECTRICAL VEHICLE PARKING SPACE LOCATION. AND THE LOCATION OF A CENTRALIZED MAILBOX WITH DEDICATED PARKING SPACE. THEN THE SECOND ONE HAS HAVING TO DO WITH THE WALL THAT THEY PROVIDE A FINAL SHOW SITE PLAN SHOWING THE SIX FT WALL LOCATED ON THE ENTIRE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. WRAPPING AROUND ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.

WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 24 63 2021 WITH CONDITIONS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY A BIG PRESENTATION FROM DEVELOPER. GOOD EVENING. TERRY MCCARTHY, REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER. TELL IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO YOUR LOCATION, MAN. THEY SAY IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, IT'S ALL ABOUT LOCATION LOCATION. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU'LL NOTE WITH A SUBJECT PROPERTY IS. IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE REAR OF PUBLICS. WHICH I'VE BEEN BY THERE SEVERAL TIMES IS NOT THE MOST. THE TRAMP INSIDE. TO THE NORTH. UP. IF YOU WILL. THERE'S A RATHER INTENSE OLDER. WEALTHY FAMILY TOE DEVELOPED. TOWN IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE FIRST PICTURE. WHICH WAIT HERE FOR THE FIRST VERY FIRST. IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A NICE PROJECT IS A SCENE, RIGHT? UM IS THERE GOING TO BE FOR SALE? SO THE PEOPLE THAT BUY HERE ARE GOING TO BE INVESTED IN THIS. IS THAT GOING THROUGH THAT AREA SEVERAL TIMES. IT'S IN WITH WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF DON'T. IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. AND THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF DOUGH TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. I HAD TO TELL YOU WHAT THE DEVELOPER FEELS ABOUT THIS. LET ME BRING THAT MIGHT.

CAN GIVE YOU HIS INSIGHT. IT'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. SO IT'S I THINK THEY'D BE REPORTED ANYTHING. GOOD EVENING, MICHEL FAULKNER WAS SUDDENLY AND MARK HOLMES. I'VE BEEN A LOCAL RESIDENT, MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS. I BUILT MANY HOMES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT. WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND THOUGHT INTO THIS PROJECT WE SPENT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF DEVELOPING A SITE PLAN. WE'VE ALSO MOVED SOME OF THE TOWN HOUSES AROUND. TO ACCOMMODATE TWO LARGE OAK TREES THAT WE HAVE WON THE PROJECT. WE DID PUT THE EIGHT FT WIDE SIDEWALKS AND WE AGREED TO THE CONCRETE WALL BETWEEN THE SMALL POOL THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AND JASON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE.

WEST OF THAT, SO AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE M BRAYDEN, BRAYDEN AND BREAKING ARCHITECTS AND LOCAL GUY IN THE CITY OF STUART. HE DOES MOST OF MY PLANS, AND WE

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REALLY WANTED SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT INTO THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PLANS, YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE LAP SIDING UP TOP SMOOTH STUCCO BELOW ALL CONCRETE BLOCK METAL ROOFS. IT LOOKS LIKE OLD STUART. YOU KNOW IT DOES BELONG HERE. YOU KNOW, SO. AND YOU KNOW PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT BUILDING STUART, YOU KNOW IF YOU DRIVE BY, IF YOU SEE ONE OF MY PROPERTIES THERE NOTICEABLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL UNIQUE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT A PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT IT. THEY KNOW THAT WE BUILT IT. WE CARE. I'M ON THE JOB SITE EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW? WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS. REALLY THE HEART OF IT IS INCREASING DENSITY, BUT YOU'LL KNOW FROM THE STAFF REPORT, BUT WHAT'S ALLOWED IS 11.63, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR 13.1. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IN THIS LOCATION THAT IS WANTED TO WE AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT. I MUST NOTE THAT THE ONE CONDITION CONCERNING THE WALL WE HADN'T SEEN THE REPORT TONIGHT. THE BIKE RACK AND EVERYTHING WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH. WE JUST HAVE TO ANALYZE THAT BETWEEN. THIS IN THE NEXT COMMISSION. I'M NOT SAYING NO, IT WAS JUST HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT. I HAVE DAN BRENNER, ARCHITECT HERE TONIGHT. HAPPY ADDRESSING THE ISSUES YOU MIGHT HAVE SUSAN OR WORKERS AIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER SUSAN THIS HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. IS HIS MIND SO. AGAIN. WAY AGREE WITH STAFF REPORT TIME. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU YOU TOLD THE L P A BOARD MEMBERS, BUT WE HAVE GIVEN THE APPROPRIATE NOTICE. ACTUALLY, WE GET IT TWICE. FOR THE FIRST HEARING THAT. SOME OF YOU WERE HERE THAT WAS CONTINUED, AND WE GAVE IT AGAIN THE SECOND TIME SO THAT. NO ONE SO YOU KNOW, DEPRIVED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HEY, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE DEVELOPER AND PRESENTATION PERSPECTIVE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? OKAY. NOW WE WILL ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THESE COMMENTS NEED TO BE THREE MINUTES. UM. PLEASE DON'T CHEER. DO ANYTHING. JUST MAKE THE COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. AND DO I HAVE. I DON'T HAVE THE LIST. WE NEED THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

THANK YOU AND I WILL GO IN ORDER THAT THEY ARE HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. FIRST UP IS MRS MICHELLE CASTAIC. HI. GOOD EVENING. UM, FIRST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 25 YEARS. MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED. I WANT TO CONCUR AND SAY THAT THE. THE PLAN DOES LOOK VERY ATTRACTIVE AND THAT IS, UM YOU KNOW, WE FEEL REALLY PROUD TO BE AN OLD STUART COMMUNITY, AND IT'S REALLY CHARMING. S SO I THINK THE PLAN IS BEAUTIFUL. IT'S NOT REALLY THAT PART ISN'T OUR CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY MOM ALWAYS USED TO SAY IF IS A BIG WORD. AND IN THE ZONE CHAINING CHANGING IS WHAT CONCERNS ME. MOST. THERE'S A LOT OF IFS THAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE ZONE GETS CHANGED, ANDRE FOR SOME REASON, SOMETHING FALLS THROUGH IN THIS DEVELOPER DOESN'T DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

THEN IT OPENS UP TO 30. I BELIEVE. 30 HOMES OR 30 S O. I'M AND I DON'T. THIS ISN'T MY AREA OF EXPERTISE SO, BUT FROM WHAT I READ, IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOES OPEN UP TO A POTENTIAL 30 HOMES ON THAT SMALL PROPERTY BESIDE US. UM SO THE EFSA REALLY PART OF WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I WOULD LOVE. THEY'RE TO BE HARMONY BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES. I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE ANYBODY TO COME AND TALK WITH US. IF THAT EYES SOMETHING YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING. AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE WE HAVE OUR PROPERTIES OWNED. OUR THREE IS WELL, SO WE'RE PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE OUR BUSINESS THERE FACING PALM CITY ROAD. AND OUR HOME FACES. THIS IS THE OTHER STREET ON RIVERVIEW, AND WE OFTEN DO SEE TRAFFIC AT ALL SORTS OF TIMES OF THE DAY. EVEN 10 30 IN THE MORNING THAT BACKS UP FROM US ONE. PAST OUR PROPERTY TO SAY PUBLICAN CREEK BRIDGE AND SO THAT THAT CONCERNS US A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT TRAFFIC SOMETIMES INHIBITS PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO OUR OUR PARKING LOT FOR OUR BUSINESS. ON BY. NO. I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME PEOPLE THAT KNOW IN THE CITY ON THEY SAY

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THAT REALLY ARE OUR LITTLE ROAD. PALM CITY ROAD CAN HANDLE AH LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN IT DOES.

BUT THE REALITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE IS I CAN TELL YOU. IT DEFINITELY HAS BACKUP ISSUES THAT WE SEE ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS AND S O THAT IN ADDITION TO I BEING ON THE SOUTH END WOULD REALLY LIKE THE BUFFER TO BE TO BE HONORED AND BE THE MOST THAT IT COULD BE.

SO THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE IN THE MOST AMOUNT OF HARMONY WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. YEAH. TERRY STILL COCKED. HI. I'M TERRY. SLOW SUMMER RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVE IN THE OLD DYER HOUSE, WHICH IS ON ST LUCIE CRESCENT, SO WE'RE CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY CONCERN IS NOT THAT THE BUILDER IS NOT DOING A GREAT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE PLAN LOOKS REALLY NICE, AND IT IS FITTING WITH THE COMMUNITY. BUT AS MICHELLE SAID, I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY PLANTED FOR 11 UNITS, AND THEY WANT TO PUT TWO MORE IN A ZOO. ALWAYS. I'M CONCERNED IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF IT'S PLANTED FOR 11. I CHANGE IT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN CHANGE. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD CHANGE IT. AND THAT DOES OPEN THE DOOR FOR MANY OTHER THINGS TO HAPPEN. I THINK THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE BUT OUR P UT THAT GIVES THEM A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING A LITTLE CLOSER AT FOR EXAMPLE. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERMEABILITY OF THE PROJECT. I DON'T SEE WHERE THE WATER RUNOFF. IT'S ALL GOING. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LITTLE AREA DESIGNATED TO THE SOUTH. IT IS ALMOST THE SAME SIZE IS THE AREA DESIGNATED. 47 HOUSES IN THE BACK, WHICH IS A MUCH LARGER AREA WITH A GREATER PERMISSIBLE SURFACE. SO MY CONCERN IS IF THEY END UP. THAT WATER RUNS OFF INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THEM. THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOODS RUN OFF AND IT'S JUST A CASCADE. NO, NO PUN INTENDED. IT'S A CASCADE OF WATER THROUGHOUT THAT OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TROUBLE WITH IT, AND WE SEE IT WITH EVERY NEW HOUSE GOING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE ABOVE THE ROAD SURFACE, SO ALL THE OLD HOUSES LIKE MINE ARE VERY LOW, AND ALL THE NEW HOUSE IS COMING IN ARE VERY HIGH. AND WHERE IS THAT WATER GOING? I KNOW EVERYBODY SAYS THE BUILDERS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU ONCE THAT BUILDER LEAVES, THEY DON'T LIKE TO GET THAT PHONE CALL SAYING, I HAVE WATER AND I HAVE STANDING WATER IN MY YARD. AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? THOSE SEVEN HOUSES THAT WENT IN BEHIND THEM. THEY HAD THE SAME ISSUE, AND I KNOW THAT THEY STRUGGLED WITH THAT BUILDERS. WELL. SO I THINK THAT IT IS A NICE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S CERTAINLY VERY PRETTY. I JUST DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A GREATER PERMEABLE SURFACE.

LEAVE. IT IS OUR THREE AND THEN WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THERE. IT CAN NEVER BE ANYTHING DIFFERENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JAMES FLYNN. HI. MY NAME IS JAMES FLYNN AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY BEHIND TO THE. WEST OF THIS PROPOSED PLAN. WHICH IS THE BELL FLORA ESTATES, P O A SEVEN HOUSES ON THAT LITTLE STREET BEHIND. WE HAVE THE RETENTION POND THAT TERRY JUST TALKED ABOUT. I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN. ARE THE SAME CONCERN. HYSTERIA MICHELLE REGARDING THE ZONING AND MY QUESTION, I GUESS WOULD BE. IS THIS REZONING SPECIFIC TO THIS PLAN? OR IS THIS WITH THESE PROPERTIES THAN B R P UT. PERIOD GOING FORWARD, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER. HIS PROPERTY. THIS PLAN GOES THROUGH WHETHER THE CURRENT ORDER DECIDES TO SELL THE PROPERTY. SIX MONTHS. UM. ARGUABLY WITH MORE FLEXIBLE ZONING, PERHAPS A MORE VALUABLE PROPERTY. SO IS THIS SPECIFIC IS THE REZONING SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT? OR DOES IT CARRY THROUGH? AND RELATIVE PERPETUITY, I GUESS. AND THEN ALSO, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR ANY DETAILS ABOUT. AND, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS NOT TONIGHT BUT ANOTHER ONE OVER THE APPROPRIATE TIME. AS TO STORM WATER RUNOFF PLANS. SO WHICH WAY FLOW IS INTENDED TO GO AND SO FORTH. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ROBIN CARTWRIGHT.

EVENING OR AFTERNOON, ROBIN CAR, 87 OH, THREE SOUTHEAST, HIGH BISCUITS AND STUART. I DO NOT

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LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. BUT. LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY. I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT THE L P A. IN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THE CITY COMMISSIONERS DON'T.

CARE THAT HERE, GIVING THE OPINION THAT RESIDENTS DON'T CARE UNTIL IT'S TRULY IN THEIR BACKYARD. 300 FT IS REALLY VERY FEW PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. SO. WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HELP MEETINGS AND IN THE CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS IS A LOT OF ADAM BOYS.

AND THANKS FOR DOING THIS AND MAKING THESE CONCESSIONS, WHICH IS GREAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM, TOO. DEVELOPMENT HOWEVER, WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THAT WE KEEP SAYING THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE, ATTAINABLE HOUSING, AND OBVIOUSLY WE NEED HOUSING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS BEING PRESENTED. HOWEVER, OVER THE VEHEMENT OBJECTIONS TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHO LIVE IN THE COUNTY. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT'S NOT GETTING APPROVED. THIS LP IN THE CITY STATE THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY AND HOUSING COSTS, AND YET THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED LISTED FOR SALE, ACCORDING TO THE SCHOOL REPORT FOR $400,000, A UNIT. WHICH IS WELL IN EXCESS OF ANYTHING THAT'S BEING SOLD IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED THAT NO TRAFFIC STUDIES LOOK AT COMPARISON AND OTHER PROJECTS. I GET IT PROJECTS THERE STARTED THERE STOPPED THEIR TENTATIVE. PROJECTING AND BEER STILL APPROVED. IF PROJECT THEY GET STARTED LATER, THE TRAFFIC IS STILL GOING TO HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. SO. PREVIOUSLY LINDA KAYE HAD PROVIDED A DENSITY MAP WHICH I'M HAPPY TO GIVE TO YOU AGAIN TONIGHT. RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 30 PEOPLE IN PALMETTO COVE AS THEY EXIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT. THEIR KIDS ARE SLATED TO GO TO SCHOOL IN PALM CITY, ACCORDING TO THE REPORT, BECAUSE JD PARKER AND THE OTHER STORY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE TOO FULL AND THEY'RE OVER CAPACITY. SO THOSE WHO DRIVE AND THEY TRIED TO TURN LEFT INTO JENSEN. THEY'RE GONNA END UP DRIVING THROUGH THOSE EXACT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE MENTIONED REPUBLICAN KREKAR DOWN MANOR DRIVE. THEN THEY HAVE TO GO OVER TO CANDOR AND THE REASON THAT THIS MATTERS IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY TURNED RIGHT ONTO CANNER, THEY'RE HEADED INTO CENTRAL PARKWAY LOSS, WHICH WILL YOU PRESENT IT TO THE CITY? ON MONDAY FOR A SECOND READING FOR PROPOSAL. YOU GO A BIT FURTHER, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCESS. I 95 IN THE TURNPIKE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO BRIDGEVIEW. SO THE KIDS FROM CENTRAL PARKWAY LOFTS OR IN THE STORT DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE ALREADY PRESENTED WITH THAT OVERCROWDING. REGIO HAS BEEN APPROVED TO BASICALLY ONE EGRESS AND ANNOUNCE SO ANYONE LEAVING THERE HAS TO MAKE A QUICK EXIT. IN A QUICK YOU TURN ON THE INDIAN, WHICH ALSO AFFECTS THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES INTO THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S THERE. AGAIN BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS IN SILOS AND THESE PROPERTIES IN SILOS. WE DON'T LOOK AT THEM HOLISTICALLY TRAFFIC SCHOOLS, ETCETERA. WHICH LEADS ME TO THE COSTCO PROPOSAL BECAUSE ALL OF THIS MANIFEST ON CANTER HIGHWAY ULTIMATELY IS SOME POINT. AND THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE ELBE. SHOULD THERE BE CORN ON PROJECTED TO BE APRIL 29. SO EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE 80% OF THE AM I FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE COMING UP WITH COSTCO AND YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THAT, AND YOU LOOK AT THE INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE. TWO INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC STUDIES. THEY DO NOT CROSS AND THEY DO NOT GET PRESENTED TOGETHER. YET THERE WILL BE 7000 CARS FOR COSTCO, AND HOWEVER MANY RESIDENTS WILL BE ON THAT PLOT. SO I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ON TC PALM THAT TOOK A LOOK AT THE SPORT FISH MARINA RESORT NORTH OF THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. REMEMBER NICHOLAS ROTH WAS QUOTED AS SAYING THAT A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SHOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AREA'S TRAFFIC TROUBLES AND PARKING AT HARVARD IS HARBORED HIS PROBLEM. HIS COMMENTS ARE BEYOND IRRESPONSIBLE AND BE ON THE ROLE OF ANYONE MAKING A DECISION ON BEHALF OF SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENTING A COMMUNITY. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S THIS BOARD SAID THIS.

I'M JUST POINTING THIS OUT AS A POINT BECAUSE BASED ON THESE COMMENTS IN THIS ATTITUDE, WHICH IS PERVASIVE AMONGST ALL OF THE INDEPENDENT BOARDS, IT'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.

PARKING AND TRAFFIC OR NOT SILENT ISSUES. IT'S NOT ONE PERSON'S PROBLEM. IT'S NOT ONE COMPANY'S PROBLEM. WE ALL LIVE IN THIS BACKYARD. THE CITY STAFF THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD THE REDEVELOPMENT BOARD, THE L P. A. THE CITY COMMISSION AND COUNTY COMMISSION NEED TO START WORKING MORE COHESIVELY AND COLLECTIVELY. BECAUSE IT'S YOUR BACKYARD, TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THESE ARE THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENTS I HAVE ON THIS SUBJECT. IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. HERE IN THE CAR KEY AGAIN IN THE STAFF MADE ONE RESPOND TO SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT. FRANKLY I WANTED APPLAUD THE ADJOINING OWNERS. I DO A LOT OF THIS WORK AND A LOT OF TIMES HE JOINED THE OWNERS. HOW MANY OWNERS WILL COME UP AND IT'S FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, AND IT'S NOT MY NEIGHBOR. COMMENTS WERE TIMELY AND APPROPRIATE. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE P UT AND THE DANGERS IN THE FUTURE. EXAMPLE, I GIVE IS. EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS. I'VE HAD A CALL FROM SOMEONE WHO SAYS WANNA BUY THIS GOLF COURSE. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I WANT TO TURN IT INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS. WHAT ARE MY CHANCES AND I SAY. IF YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW, AND THE SUN IS COMING UP IN THE WEST. YOU GOT A GOOD CHANCE, BUT OTHERWISE YOU GOT ZERO CHANCES. THE PRD THAT GOOD NEWS OF THE P IDEAS. THIS IS WHAT WE GOTTA

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DO. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE. AND IN ORDER TO DO ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS SHOWN UP HERE. WE GOTTA HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. NOTIFY EVERYONE THERE AND COMING BACK IN FRONT OF THESE TWO BOARDS, SO THE PD IS A GUARANTEE THAT WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET. IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE. I'M NOT A DRAINAGE ENGINEER, BUT I KNOW AND STAFF GONNA DRESS THAT BETTER THAN I, BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE RUN INTO IT IN THE COUNTY AND IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. THAT THE STANDARDS IN THE PAST WORK WITH THERE TODAY. THE STANDARDS ARE MORE STRICT, AND I'LL GET STRICTER IN THE FUTURE, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PASS A RATHER STRINGENT TESTS WITH THE CITY STAFF TO GET THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND IT BETTER. NOT AWFUL. THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES BECAUSE OUR ENGINEER DID THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY WITHIN THE DRAINAGE POND PARTIES, OKAY. SO HE'S NOT GONNA WANT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. BUT I SUSPECT THE STAFF HAVE SOME COMMENTS, TOO. STAFF TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND. YEAH IT'S KEPT FREEMAN FROM THE DAWN OF INVOLVEMENT, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. I JUST WANT TO REASSURE THE NEIGHBORS YOUR COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY WE RECEIVED ON UNDERSTOOD. I WANT TO REASSURE YOU THAT THIS PLAN IS THE PLAN THAT IS GOING TO BE APPROVED AND ATTACHED TO THE PLANS UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THAT MEANS THAT WHATEVER COULD BE DONE IN THE R THREE ZONING. WHICH COULD BE BUILDINGS UP TO THREE STORIES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY BY THIS. PLAN, SO WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING TWO STORY BUILDINGS.

YES THE DENSITY IS GOING TO BE INCREASED. AND THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS IT'S YOU KNOW A BALANCE OF WHAT WE GET ON WHAT. WE, YOU KNOW, I WISH YOU KNOW WE SHARE OR WHATEVER. THIS IS, YOU KNOW A VEHICLE. A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS A VEHICLE THAT REALLY SECURES AND LETS THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE.

CHANGE THAT THEY WOULD BE A TEST. THREE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU GET FULL VIEW OF THOSE ON I THINK. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT SOMETHING WOULD CHANGE, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YOU. REGARDING THE STORMWATER.

YES, WE HAVE MUCH MORE STRINGENT, STORMWATER MEASURES NOW WE'VE ADOPTED DIFFERENT RULES AND REGULATIONS IN OUR CODE. THEO LOOK PRECISELY AT THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE SEEING IN TERMS OF OUTFLOW FROM PROJECTS. AND THESE WILL BE VERY CAREFULLY CONSIDERED URING. THE FINAL. ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED YOU'RE ON THE SITE PLAN. HAVE YOU THOUGHT AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE WILL NOW OPEN FOR BOARD COMMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM. VEGETATION WHY IS THERE AS WHERE THEY ASKING FOR AN EXCLUSION FROM REGARDING THE HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING? WE'RE GROWING VEGETATION? OKAY, SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIRED BUFFER WITH AND. TYPICALLY THAT'S 25 FT, PLUS 10 FT FOR EVERY EXTRA STORY IN THIS CASE, 35 FT. AND THE CODE REQUIRES 25% OF THAT TO BE LANDSCAPED, TYPICALLY WITH THE WALL OR FENCE. AND THEY'RE PROVIDING LESS THAN THAT, 25% WHICH IS A 250.75. IN THIS CASE, IT'S EIGHT FT ON THE SOUTH BORDER, AND I THINK. SIX AND CHANGE ON THE WEST SIDE. AND SO THAT'S THE VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. BUT THERE WAS ALSO A VARIANT ON THE HEIGHT OF SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING. COULD HAVE SWORN THAT I READ THAT IT WAS ONLY FIVE FT INSTEAD OF REQUIRED HEIGHT. THAT'S WITH OKAY, BUT IN TERMS OF THE BUFFER STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A SIX FT WALL THAT'S CORRECT ALL BOUNDARIES.

SIX FT. GO ACROSS THE RIGHT AWAY AS WELL. OR THE THAT EASEMENT NOW. ON ALL BOUNDARIES, EXCEPT FOR THE EASEMENT. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO IN REGARDS TO THE BUFFER S O. I KNOW THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY SMALL DIFFERENCES IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING, AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO GET DENSER PLANTING WHERE THERE IS GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING. WAY COULD INCLUDE THAT CONDITION.

THERE. DEVELOPMENT. I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS IN

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REGARDS TO TRAFFIC. UM. I KNOW THAT THAT POPS, HE WROTE, AS IS THE HOT MESS, AND I'M JUST WONDERING. I KNOW THATKNOW, THEY WHAT'S THERE IS WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED. BUT CAN WE NOT? USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIKE. CONSIDER THAT HOT, RIGHT OR OR. YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT IS CLEARLY I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S LIKE MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM, NOT CITY OF STUART RESIDENTS, BUT IT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND. CAN YOU QUESTION FOR THE RECORD? THE PALM CITY ROAD IS ACTUALLY A COUNTY ROAD. THE CITY HAS AGREED TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE ROAD AND PROVIDE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE SPEED BUMPS. WITH MARTIN COUNTY AS THE ATTEMPT TO REGULATE THE TRAFFIC ON IT, BUT MARTIN COUNTY WILL NOT DEED THE ROAD TO THE CITY OF STUART BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE PROBABLY CLOSE THE PALM CITY END OF IT. AND SO THEY WON'T DO IT, AND IT'S A MARTIN COUNTY ROAD, NOT A SCARED ROAD, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE ANY. CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC ON IT WITHOUT MARTIN COUNTY, APPROVING THEM, SO MAYBE THE THING THAT WE COULD DO IS ALL GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING OR CONTACT OUR COMMISSIONERS ABOUT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THAT. MR MORTALITY. TALK TO THE BOARD. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN MAKE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PHONE. ALL RIGHT, TERRY, SLOW COX. MY ONLY COMMENT ON THE PALM CITY ROAD THING IS. TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE ON POLICY ROAD AS YOU ALL KNOW. UM, BUT BY CHANGING THE FLOW OF IT, YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL THEN TURN IN BEFORE THEY GET TO PUMPS, HE WROTE, AND INSTEAD COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY WILL ALL BE FEEDING OUT THROUGH HELL. PATIO KEY ROAD IF WE DO SOMETHING EXTREME. JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE DON'T LET THE TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EAT THERE. UM OKAY, SO YEAH, I GUESS IF THERE'S NOTHING TO BE DONE, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EXPLANATION, TOO. I KNOW THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SORT OF YOU KNOW OUR ONE THROUGH THREE AND PD IS A LITTLE FUZZY FOR ME ALSO, AND I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY TO, LIKE ASSUAGE ANY FEARS. IF YOU ALL COULD CLARIFY FOR ME THAT. YOU KNOW IF THIS WERE TO, YOU KNOW, BECOME REZONED. AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY LEAVES TOWN AND THE PROJECT FALLS APART. SOMEBODY COULDN'T SWOOP IN AND BUILD A, YOU KNOW, 30 UNITS STRUCTURE THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME STRINGENT PROCESSES THAT CORRECT ABSOLUTELY. IT WOULD TAKE THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE TODAY. I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD BE EVEN BE ABLE TO FIT THAT AMOUNT OF UNITS ON THERE AND. THE HOLDING ISSUE WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS A MUCH PARKING. CAN YOU GET WITH THAT? SO THAT'S A CONSTRAINT. YOU THE AGREEMENT THAT'S FORMED THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THIS SITE PLAN IS VERY TIGHT ON ANY CHANGES TO THAT. UM. SUBSTANTIALLY WOULD ALWAYS COME TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND CITY COMMISSION. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS A SMALL MINOR. MY VEST. FROM STRAIGHT ZONE. SPORT IS USED TO SING MAJOR DIVESTS. WHEN YOU ZONE WHEN YOU RE ZONE FROM STRAIGHT ZONING. WHO APPEARED THESE OFF? I MEAN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNIT AND A HALF. THAT BY RIGHT IT WOULD HAVE 11.61. WE'RE ASKING FOR 13, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A SMALL BUFFER MINOR, BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING SIX FT WALLS ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. MY PERSPECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REFRESHING CHANGE. OF WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE. THAT'S. 25 TO 30 UNITS PARADE OR ON A COMPUTER. THAT'S HOW I SEE THIS FRONT. WE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS. UM DEVELOPMENT CONDITION NUMBER 12, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WAS A NEW CONDITION REGARDING THE TWO BIKE RACKS EVEY PARKING SPACE IN THE CENTRALIZED MAILBOX. THAT WAS NOT ON THE SITE PLAN.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT WAY SAW THAT PRODUCT. THIS REASON. OKAY SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ANNOTATED ON THE SITE PLAN, OKAY? REGARDING WALL SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEATRICAL HAS AGREED TO THE WALL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. IT HAS NOT YET AGREED TO THE WALL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. THE HEY, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT. SO OKAY. NOT CERTAIN. WHICH ONE THERE ASKING FOR? WE WILL CERTAINLY. TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AND AN

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ADDRESS. BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE STUDENTS, THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR CIRCUM CIRCUMVENTION OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CROSSING THE RIGHT AWAY AND WHERE CARESSES THE RIGHT AWAY. YOU UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. UM THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS DEVELOPMENT CONDITION NUMBER 21. REGARDING CONDO CONVERSION IT I THOUGHT THIS WAS IN A APARTMENT RENTAL AND YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S NOT IT'S TOWN HOME FOR SALE. BUT I READ THAT WRONG STAFF CORRECT. WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE A FORESAIL PRODUCT.

OKAY? AND STAFF. HE THOUGHT THIS WAS APARTMENT RENTAL. HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THINGS? RIGHT? I AM READING WHERE DID REFER TO RENTAL AND THAT. THAT WAS SCRIPTURES. OR THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT THAT NO. OKAY, SO THAT ZACH WAS WELL, SCRATCH THAT AND OKAY FROM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL THAT THE FOR SALE IS BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS NICELY FIT FOR THE BUILDINGS. BUT I WOULD, UM AND YOU HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE RESIDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT RUN OFF SO. YOU HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SO I WOULD YOU KNOW? AND CAUSE YOU TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH THE RUNOFF, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.

COUPLE THINGS. WELL, I APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD OF LATE AFTER LARRY. THE O. UH HUH. A COUPLE QUICK THINGS ON AGAIN. STAFF I DIDN'T DIDN'T CATCH YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION, BUT.

SIMPLY THE 11 LOTS VERSUS THE BEAUTY. WHAT WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL THAT IS BEING GIVEN BY THE CLIENT VERSUS IF THEY JUST BUILD ON THE 11 LAKHS? UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY, SO, UH, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING WHAT AMENITIES ARE WHAT WHAT IS THE APPLICANT GIVING AND. TRADE FOR THE VARIANCE REQUEST. BASICALLY, YOU KNOW IF WE GIVE HIM TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS, RIGHT? I THINK THEY'RE GIVEN RIGHT AWAY IN MY CORRECT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE PART OF THE RIGHT AWAY. UM, I BELIEVE. YOU CAN SEE HERE. THEY HAVE DR ISLES THROUGH THERE.

YEAH. WE'RE DONATING RIGHT AWAY. GIVE IT TO THE COUNTY. IT'S COUNTY ROAD, SO WE GOT TO DONATE TO THE COUNTY. I'M SAYING, UM, CITY ROAD DON'T RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT? IN A FAR AS THE DRAINAGE. YEAH, THESE SMALL SITES, THEY'RE ALWAYS TOUGH. WHAT MOST OF YOU DON'T SEE IS THE ENGINEERS USED WHAT THEY CALLED UNDER DRAINS, OK? ALL RIGHT. BASICALLY DRAINED FIELDS UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT. IN ADDITION TO THE RETENTION AREA IN THE REAR AND. IF THEY'RE BECOMES AN ISSUE, THE ENGINEER COLLEGE CONSIDER THE PERVIOUS CONCRETE AS ADDITION TO THAT.

DOES REDUCE YOUR TRAINING. SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE. THE ONLY THING IS LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE.

HAD SOME PREVIOUS CONCRETE. CRITICAL AREAS. SURELY WILL DO SOME OF THE OFFSIDE POTENTIAL FROM LEAVING. OUTSIDE THAT I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION. WE ALL RIGHT, YOU MAY MAKE ANOTHER PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT. STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. PETER SILK HONKS. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT WATER RETENTION AREA IS NOT NOT APART. THE AREA BEING DEVELOPED ITS FOR THE IT'S OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS FROM THE SEVEN HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND. YOU HAVE ONE ALSO. THERE'S A RETENTION AREA. THEY'RE ON THEIR FRONT. OKAY.

NO PROBLEM. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I ALSO I AGREE WITH THE INCREASED VEGETATION ARE DENSER VEGETATION I SHOULD SAY, AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT OF THE WALL OF THE OTHER WALL BE ADDED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS WE'D LIKE TO MAKE. ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT DENSER VEGETATION IS ADDED THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDES THE. LOCATION FOR THE TWO BIKE RACKS. EVEY PARKING SPACE, CENTRALIZED MAILBOX SIX FT WALL IS THAT ALONG THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN MOST PORTION AND IS THAT IT? E

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THINK THAT OKAY, OKAY. I THINK SO. ANYBODY LIKE TWO SECONDS? I'LL SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR. NO THANK YOU. I NEED A BOAT I'LL TAKE ABOUT. REMEMBER BROMFIELD? YES. REMEMBER STRONG? YES.

REMEMBER MASSING? YES. REMEMBER MOTHER'S YES. REMEMBER, VITALI? YES. CHAIR. LORENE. YES. ONE.

JUST ONE FOLLOW UP. SORRY, ALSO TO SCRATCH CONDITION, 21. KIND OF CONVERSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT. THAT IS THIS THAT PORTION OF THIS EVENING'S ITEMS NEXT WE WILL MOVE TO THE

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FLAMINGO AVENUE; REZONING (RC):

 

ORDINANCE NO. 2465-2021; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, REZONING FROM (R-1) SINGLE FAMILY TO (R-2) DUPLEX ON THE CITY’S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR 15 (FIFTEEN) FEE SIMPLE OWNED PARCELS, LOCATED BETWEEN S.E. FLAMINGO AVENUE AND S.E. OCEAN AVENUE, NORTH OF S.E. 8TH STREET AND SOUTH OF S.E. OCEAN BOULEVARD; BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; DECLARING THE REZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

 

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REZONING OF FLAMINGO AVENUE. YEAH.

WOULD ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK. EXCUSE ME. WHILE WE ARE WAITING. IF PEOPLE WILL, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, PLEASE PASS THEM FORWARD TO THE WEEKEND COLLECT THEM. OKAY? CAN EVERYONE PLEASE? LOWER YOUR VOICE IS SIT DOWN AND PASS PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE MEETING. THANK YOU. STAFF ARE YOU READY TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION? YOU ALL RIGHT? YES. OKAY, GREAT. AFTERNOON BOARD. TOM REECE AGAIN SENIOR PLANNER. ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FORMING, CALLED FLAMINGO AVENUE PROPERTIES. REZONING FROM OUR WONDER ARE TO THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF STUART. FLAMINGO AVENUE SOUTH OF OCEAN BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF EIGHTH STREET. IT'S 4 15 PROPERTIES REZONING FROM OUR ONE ARE TWO IT'S BASICALLY A HOUSEKEEPING. UM. PROJECT THAT. WAS WAS INITIATED BY, UH, ILLEGAL DUPLEX IS THAT EXISTS ON FOR THE SITE FOR THE PARCELS? SO THE, UM FUTURE LAND USE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WILL REMAIN THE SAME. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS EXISTING ART AND ARE TO BLOCK IN BETWEEN. THE. PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OF SIX STREET AND THEN PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF SEVENTH STREET. SO WHAT? THIS EXERCISE AND HOUSEKEEPING PROJECT IT WILL DO IS IT WILL CREATE A CONTINUOUS BLOCK OF OUR TWO ZONING REPRESENTED BY THE ORANGE. AS WELL AS LEGALIZED THE EXISTING FOR TWO FAMILY UNITS. THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE R ONE ZONING. SO I MENTIONED THE FOUR UNITS. RIGHT? ARE CURRENTLY ILLEGAL AND NON CONFORMING. THEY'RE TWO UNITS TO THE NORTH. NORTH OF SIXTH STREET. AND THEN THE TWO UNITS JUST SOUTH OF SEVENTH STREET. IT'S REPRESENTED BY THE LETTER B. THERE'S ONE FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEGAL AND CONFORMING. THERE'S CURRENTLY 123 AND FOUR EXISTING ONE FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE NON CONFORMING THAT WILL BE BROUGHT INTO CONFORMING STATUS ONCE THE REZONING HAPPENS. THERE'S EXISTING TO FAMILY, MOSTLY IN THE EXISTING ARE TWO ZONING THAT ARE LEGAL AND CONFORMING. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S ONE SINGLE FAMILY. EXIST IN THE ART TO FILL ZONING. THAT IS ALSO LEGAL AND CONFORMING. SO THIS IS OUR ZONE. THIS IS OUR

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SETBACK AND PERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS AND LOT SIZE CHART THAT WE USE EVERY DAY AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR ONE ZONING REQUIRES 7500 SQUARE FEET, MINIMUM AND SIZE. AND A 75 FT FRONTAGE. SO WHEN WE REZONE TOE ARE TWO THAT WILL RE BE REDUCED TO 5000 SQUARE FEET AND 50 FT. MINIMUM FOR THE WIDTH OR FRONTAGE. THEN, OF COURSE THEY ARE, TOO, WHICH REQUIRES THE BIGGER LOTS ARE GOING TO REMAIN. IT'S 7500 AND 75 FT AND WET. SO IS THE CONDITION FOR THIS REZONING STAFF HAD TO COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWED.

FOR TO FAMILY UNITS, SETBACKS CAUSED BY THE REZONING THAT ARE LEGAL, THEY WILL BECOME LEGALIZED, HOWEVER. ANY PROPOSED STRUCTURAL ADDITIONS TO THOSE TWO FAMILY UNITS SHALL ADHERE TO THE R TO ZONING DISTRICT. SO. SO ANY OF THOSE UNITS THAT. NOW IN OUR TWO WOULD HAVE TO HOLD TO THOSE. UM UM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. HERE. YOU CAN SEE AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE SETBACKS ARE, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE R ONE, I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A 75 FT MINIMUM WITH AND A 75 100 SQUARE FEET IN AREA. UM REQUIREMENT. THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE R TO ONE FAMILY THAT DROPS TO 5000 SQUARE FEET. WHICH BY THE WAY, WILL LEGALIZE FOUR OF THIS OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY NON CONFORMING. THEN, FINALLY, THE LARGER ARE TWO TO FAMILY. LOTS ARE THE LARGER 75 FT. 30 FT FRONT STEP BACK 10 ON THE SIDES AND 20 IN THE REAR. WIRE THIS THING. THERE'S FOUR SINGLE FAMILIES UNITS THAT ARE.

THEIR MINIMUM. THEY DON'T MEET THE MINIMUM LOT WITH AND LOT AREA. THEY WERE JUST BUILT. AND THEY WERE. YEAH IT'S HARD TO SAY WHEN IT HAPPENED. SOME OF THE HOUSES WERE BUILT PRIOR TO 1990 WHEN HE CAME IN, AND WE. I CAME UP WITH THESE OVERLAYS AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND, UM. SO AS FAR AS THE TIMING YES, ONE HAPPENED PROBABLY SHORTLY BEFORE THE OVERLAY AND. THUS, THEY'RE NONCONFORMING FOR MANY YEARS, SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO CLEAN IT UP. NOT ONLY FOR THE ILLEGAL TO FAMILY UNITS, BUT ALSO. WHERE SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE NON CONFORMING. ON WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE WITH THE ATTACHED EXHIBITS, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY? AND YOU'RE THE ONLY PART OF THE PRESENTATION FOR THAT SINCE THE CITY MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, OKAY, FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS. WE APPROVED THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA ITEMS AT HAND. SO I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYONE IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE. THREE MINUTES. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. OKAY. FIRST UP IS HELEN MCBRIDE.

HELLO, MCBRIDE. I'M FROM FLAMINGO AVENUE. I'VE BEEN. LIKE A TEACHER. EVERY TIME I GET UP HERE, I'VE LIVED DOWN THAT STREET FOR 40 YEARS NOW. UNFORTUNATELY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS NO HISTORY OF OUR AREA. BACK MAMA AND I BUILT IT. WE HAVE AND I BUILT THE HOUSE. HALF OF THE STREET WAS IN THE COUNTY AND HALF WAS IN THE CITY OF STORY. IN THE EIGHTIES, THE CITY WHEN THEY COULD ANNEX. DECIDED THEY'RE GOING TO ANNEX LIKE THE STREET.

MY BACKYARD WAS THE COUNTY LINE. THEY WERE GONNA AN X RATED TO MIND A GREAT ROAD. AND THEY HAD THE MEETING AT JD PARKER CAFETERIA. AND OUR CONCERN THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND THE PRESENCE OF THE COUNTY. OURS WAS. WE DO PRACTICE WERE THERE WHEN I MOVED IN, AND I MOVED IN A 1972. UM ON THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THAT STREET. UH, AND WE WERE CONCERNED, AND THE CITY'S START BACK THEN TO US, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW IT WAS BACK THEN. WE

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WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DUPLEX IS THEY WERE WE WERE ARE ONE HOUSING THEY WERE ARE TO THE CITY SAID NO. THIS IS AN ARE ONE IN THE CITY AND EXIT INTO THE. THING. IT WILL BE IN OUR ONE AREA. AND BUT THE DUKE PERKINS CAN STAY AND GIVEN IN HAPPENS, THEY CAN. NOT REBUILD, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE LIKE THE 43 WALLS AND THAT. THE HOUSE IS THE REASON OF THE AGAIN. THE HOUSE. IS HE STARTING ABOUT? WE'RE IN THE COUNTY AND WE AND EXCITEMENT TO THE CITY BACK THEN, AND OTHERS ONE HOUSE ON THE CORNER THERE THAT HE WAS POSTED FOR HIM AND HIS MOTHER, AND THEY DIDN'T PUT TWO HOUSES WITH VERY SMALL. YEAH, BUT IT'S AROUND. NOW YOU'RE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF STORY. WHOMEVER WANNA PENALIZE ALL OF US? THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH KEEPING IT ARE ONE THERE'S NO LAND THERE TO BE BUILT DONE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WE'VE LIVED. THIS WAS IN THE EIGHTIES. I COULD REMEMBER THAT MEETING IN THE COMMENTS AND, UH WHAT HAPPENED THEN? LEAVE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYONE TAKES CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY. WHY, JUST BECAUSE THEIR BOOKKEEPING OR THAT CAN'T BE, BUT MAYBE I'LL BE HAPPY TO COME UP AND TELL IN HISTORY OF THAT AREA, AND THERE'S ANOTHER WOMAN SITTING. I KNOW THE AUDIENCE. HER MOTHER HAS A HOUSE. FOR YEARS, AND SHE'S LIVING HERE AND NOW WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF OUR STREET. NOW YOU MIND OF THE CITY WANTS TO PENALIZE US FOR SOMETHING THEY DID. WE HAD NO, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO US, AND THEY ANNEXED AT ALL INTO US. SO I CAN'T SEE. YOU KNOW, I AM. LIKE THAT YOUNG LADY GET BEFORE ME AND ALL THE SUDDEN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS. GOING OUT LIP FIELD WITH THE RUNNING DUE TO THIS LITTLE CITY THAT'S ONLY 6.8 MILES. AND WHEN I THANK YOU FOR THE GREEN ON THAT OTHER PROJECT I'M OFF FROM WORK GREEN. BUT PLEASE. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN R ONE. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PROMISED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES BY THE CITY. AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANNA LOSE IT, BUT IT BECAME BECAME CITY PROPERTY AND WE CANNOT BE PENALIZED. I FEEL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FRANK MCCHRYSTAL WENT. EXCUSE ME. WE HAD STAYED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO CLAPPING AND CHEERING. WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE HER COMMENTS. AND MOVE ON. OKAY, MR FRANK MCCHRYSTAL. WHEN DOES MY TIME START? YEAH. MY DESCRIPTION WAS GOING ON AND BE A LOT MORE LAYMAN'S TERMS AND PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE TO EVERYBODY THAN MR REACHES. IT'S FROM DRIVING AROUND LOOKING.

OKAY, THERE ARE NINE LEGALESE OWN DUPLEX. LOTS OF THE NORTH END OF FLAMINGO IN OCEAN. THERE ARE THREE NON COMPLAINT. DUPLEX IS BUILT ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON FLAMINGO AVENUE. CITY OF STUART IN ORDER TO LEGALIZE EXISTING TO FAMILY UNITS. THERE ARE THREE AND PROVIDE UNIFORMS OWNING IS REQUESTING RESULT. 15 CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOTS IN THE DUPLEX LOT, TURNING AN ENTIRE THREE BLOCK AREA BORDERED BY FLAMINGO, OCEAN, 8TH AND 5TH INTO DUPLEX ZONING.

NINE EXISTING LEGAL DUPLEX LOTS WILL EXPAND THE NUMBER 24. EXISTING 90 DUPLEXES STAND OUT EVIDENCE OF INVESTORS AND RENTALS MAKE THIS SECTION OF THE BROADWAY SECTION OF ST LUCIA'S STATES LOOK WAY DIFFERENT FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. TAKE SEVENTH STREET AS FAR EAST AS YOU CAN PLEASE AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE STARK DISMAL DIFFERENCE. WELCOME TO 2021 AFTER RECEIVING MY NOTICE OF PROPOSED RESULTING FROM THE CITY I GOOGLE SEARCH THE EFFECT OF DUPLEX ZONING AND EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOODS. I WAS EXPECTING AFFIRMATION OF MY BASIC PREMISE OF. MORE DUPLEXES EQUALS MORE INVESTORS AND MORE RENTALS, WHICH EQUALS LESS SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERS WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN HOME VALUES. INSTEAD I FOUND ARTICLE AFTER ARTICLE DESCRIBING THE SINGLE FAMILY LOT ZONING AS THE MAIN SOURCE OF ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL PROBLEMS. THE OVERALL PREMISE IN 2021 ON THE INTERNET. IS THAT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING HAS TO GO. OF COURSE, THE RACE CARD WAS PLAYED. SINGLE FAMILIES ONLY EXCLUDES LOWER INCOME MINORITIES AND COULD NEVER AFFORD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. NOPE. NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL COLOR LIVE. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL CARD. THEY PLAYED THE ZONING OF LARGE PIECES OF LAND. A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LEADS TO SPRAWL, WITH EVERYONE HAVING TO DRIVE EVERYWHERE, OKAY, NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I CAN WALK WHEREVER I NEED TO GO.

AND WHEN UNCLE JOE PUSHES GAS UP TO SEVEN BUCKS, I WILL SURVIVE. SO WHY IS THE CITY STEWART WANT TO REZONE THREE CITY BLOCKS TO DUPLEX ZONING IN AN EXISTING THRIVING SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD? WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL BE THE CRY, BUT IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. THERE A CITY LEADERS HAVE YOU ANYTHING TRADITIONAL AS NEANDERTHAL AND WE NEANDERTHALS NEED TO BE RE EDUCATED. MINNEAPOLIS 2040 PLAN, WHICH PASSED IN 2019 ALLOWS

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DUPLEXES AND TRY PLEXUS ON ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE WHOLE STATE OREGON HOUSE BILL 2001 PASSED IN 2019 LEGAL LEGALIZES DUPLEXES. ALL SINGLE FAMILY LUNCH LAND WITH POPULATION, THE CITY'S POPULATION GREATER THAN 10,000. YEAH, IN MY EARLY CANVASSING ABOUT 17 NEIGHBORS SO FAR. AFTER THE INITIAL LOOK OF DIS POLICE AND DISAPPOINTMENT. THE RESOUNDING UNANIMOUS REACTION HAS BEEN. OH, HELL, NO. OKAY, AND I'LL FINISH WITH ONE QUESTION. WHERE DO YOU SLUMLORD INVESTORS AND RENTALS FIT INTO YOUR LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM WITH THE GOAL OF BECOMING THE GREENEST CITY IN AMERICA. THANK YOU, SIR. MR JIM ROLLINS, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. UM IN ORDER HERE. MY NAME'S JIM ROLLINS AND MY WIFE AND I MARRY LIVE AT 16 45 SOUTHEAST A STREET. FOR THE BOTTOM IN THE MATH RIGHT HERE. ONE OF THE SEAS WERE SUBDIVIDED LOCK. AND WE ARE ZONED R ONE RESIDENTIAL. UH, WE PURCHASED OUR HOUSE OVER 18 YEARS AGO.

ONE OF THE FACTORS OF BUYING OUR HOUSE IS WE WANT TO LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND KNOWING THAT WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOUSE, WE KNEW SOME OF THE SURROUNDING ZONE. ING'S WHICH WERE ARE TOO SO THAT WAS A MAJOR INFLUENCE FOR US TO PURCHASE OUR HOUSE. NOW IT'S COMING ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HOUSEKEEPING END OF IT. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE VALUE MY PROPERTY. AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. CIAO. EVIL WEST. AND THEN I'M GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY WHAT MY NEIGHBORS CONDUCIVE AS ALL KNOW THAT IN OUR TWO ZONING. HAS MINIMAL RESTRICTIONS. OKAY, LESS RESTRICTIONS. IN HAIF IF YOU'VE GOT THE SETBACKS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS YOU CAN DO. AND I DIDN'T BUY MY HOUSE. AND LETTING MY NEIGHBOR DETERMINE MY VALUE MY PROPERTY. RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA FACT MAY IT'S ALL ABOUT VALUE MY PROPERTY. AND KEEPING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY IT IS. I MEAN, I COULD STAND UP HERE AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER BUNCH OF REASONS FOR THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, HOUSEKEEPING IS NOT AN ISSUE. HOW THAT MAP LOOKS. I DON'T REALLY CARE. I INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'VE MANAGED WITH THIS MIXED SO I HAVE A LETTER AND YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO A COPY OF IT. THAT WE REFERENCED. AND IT WAS WITH OUR PAPERWORK WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE THAT 1994 WHEN THIS. SECTION WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY. THE CITY LOOKED OUT AT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE HOMEOWNER. AND THE RESIDENT.

OKAY? LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF LANDLORDS, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY OF STUART. THAT MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OFF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AS LONG AS THEY KEEP IT UP. BUT I'VE JUST REALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MORE TO THIS ZONING CHANGE THAN IS OUT ON THE TABLE. I'VE HEARD RUMOR OF THAT THERE IS A PERMIT ISSUE. WELL, WE HAVE A PROCESS. WE HAVE A PROCESS WHICH WE CALL VARIANCES. AND I'M WELL AWARE OF IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE SHED ON MY PROPERTY. AND I'M I'M GONNA SPLIT LOT, SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM ON MY SIDE SETBACKS. IT'S GONNA COST ME $810 JUST EVEN SUBMIT A PERMIT. SO IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH PERMITTING AND PEOPLE BUYING. HOMES IN THERE WITH CLASSIFICATIONS DIFFERENCES. AND WE NEED THE TABLE. IT IN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE. AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO INVITE ANY OF YOU THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SEE HOW THIS IS GONNA AFFECT OUR HOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR ERIC LINDSTROM. HELLO? MY NAME'S ERIC WECKSTROM. I LIVE IN 6 14 SOUTHEAST FLAMINGO. THE HOUSE WITH A BIG PINK CHIMNEY. I'M SURE IF YOU DRIVE BY YOU SEEN IT. I MOVED THERE 18 MONTHS AGO. $400,000. AND REALLY WAS

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LOOKING FORWARD TO A NICE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM AND THEN I HEAR ABOUT THIS THING AND ALL I COULD ASK MYSELF IS WHY WHY IS JUST GOING ON? THEN I HEAR IT'S ON LEE FOR HOUSEKEEPING MEASURE. THAT TO ME IS RIDICULOUS. SECOND OF ALL. JUST RIGHT HERE. REZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CITIES. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHAT IS THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WHERE IS THAT? SET IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET MORE DUPLEXES IN. IT INCREASED ATTACKS RULES TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING. JUST DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. HUH? YOU KNOW TO ME? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE THREE NON CONFORMING INSTEAD OF FIXING IT, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE NON CONFORMING OR CHANGE IT TO CONFORMING. THAT'S BACKWARDS.

ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU, SIR. CAMERA, LUCY. HI. MY NAME'S TAMBOR. LUCY I LIVE AT FLAMINGO AND EIGHT LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF MARY AND JIMMY. WE LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY. THE MORE WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE ART TO REZONING. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MORE THAN COULD BE DONE THAN JUST. ADDING DUPLEXES. IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE YOU CAN.

BUT IN MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF. SO WHAT IS THE AGENDA FOR THE AREA? THAT'S THE QUESTION HERE. WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS? NOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TRYING TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE. WHAT HE PAID FOR HIS HOUSE COMPARED TO WHAT I PAID FOR MY HOUSE THREE YEARS AGO, IS TWICE THE VALUE. YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS ISN'T GONNA HELP.

IS GONNA SKYROCKET OR PROPERTY TAXES. IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR. I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE ON A SINGLE INCOME. WHEN I DID BY, I COULDN'T AFFORD A $400,000 HOME. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE BOUGHT. THEREFORE, THAT REASON SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MR COLLINS. HOW YOU GUYS DOING, SO I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THOSE, UH, LOWER. TWO A'S OVER THERE. I KNOW KURT. HE'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THOSE TWO UNITS ARE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. IT'S JUST SPLITTING A DUPLEX IN HALF. SO ALL I CAN SEE THAT THE REAL ISSUE IS THOSE TWO A'S UP ON THE TOP. SO BEYOND CONFORMING AND PAPERWORK. I'M SURE YOU LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT MATH AND IT BE BEAUTIFUL AND ORANGE ALL THE WAY ON THAT BLOCK. I HOPE THAT THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF APPRECIATION FROM HUMAN, NOT JUST PAPER. ALREADY, PLUS PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HERE IN THIS ROOM, TELLING YOU PLEASE DON'T MESS WITH OUR AREA. YOU GUYS ARE THE GODS OF LOCAL PLANNING. YOU HAVE POWER TO DO WHATEVER YOU. BUT I HOPE YOU REALIZE YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON FLAMINGO THAT LIVE ON THIS STREET. I MOVED THERE KNOWING ALL THAT THOSE DUPLEXES WERE THERE, AND THAT'S OKAY. I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THOSE DUPLEXES. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT? COOL, BUT I DON'T WANT ANY MORE DUPLEXES THERE, MAN. I REALLY DON'T. I WANT TO HAVE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. HAVE TOO LITTLE TWO AND THREE YEAR OLD GIRLS. MARRIED I OWN MY HOME AND I INVEST IN MY HOME. MY PLAN A TON OF BANANA TREES.

YOU WOULD LOVE ME, JACKIE. I'VE GOT BARBADOS CHERRIES. I'VE GOT MANGOES GALORE. I PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND MONEY INTO MY LOT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY FAMILY FOR THE FUTURE. LOOK AT THOSE DUPLEXES. NOT THE SAME THING. IT'S A COMMODITY. PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE. THEY'RE USING THAT FACILITY. THEY'RE NOT INVESTING IN IT THE SAME. THE COPS. COME, THEY COME TO THAT LITTLE HORSE. PEOPLE ARE SCREAMING AND CURSING AT EACH OTHER OUTSIDE. IT'S ON THAT HORSE. OFFER PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO AFFORD WHERE THEY LIVE. BUT THE REALITY IS I WANT PEOPLE INVESTED IN MY STREET. I WANT PEOPLE THAT WANNA LIVE THERE LONG TERM THEY WANT TO MAKE THEIR HOUSE IS NICE, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. EVERYBODY'S HONEST WITH OUR TWO SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM AND NOT JUST GO WITH THE. BUREAUCRATIC PAPERWORK, YOU KNOW, PUSHING PAPERS AND. ASS AND STUFF. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THIS AND REPRESENTING US, SO THANK YOU. YOU. JENNIFER KADAR. WELL,

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MY NAME'S JENNIFER KADEER. I'M A RESIDENT FLAMINGO 6 12 MINGO AB DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM YOU ARE, TOO, THAT IT'S ALREADY ZONE. AND. SINCE THAT ZONING HAPPENED, WE HAVE DRUG DENS.

NOW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE COPS AND ODIS THERE EVERY DAY. I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY ASKED FOR STING OPERATION OUT OF MY HOUSE. DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS OKAY. I HAVE A LITTLE BABY.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE CORNER. ARES DCF THERE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE NO ONE WATCHES THEIR CHILDREN. PEOPLE GET DRUNK. THERE'S FIGHTS. THE KIDS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET. TORTURING CATS LIKE IT'S NOT OKAY. AND SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE ONES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ZONED IS OUR TO THOSE PEOPLE DON'T KEEP UP THEIR HOUSES. THEY'RE YARDS ARE A MESS WITH JUST LITTER AND TRASH. THE LITTLE CHILDREN WHEN ELDERLY MEN WALKED BY, SAY THAT THEY WANT TO BEAT THEM UP. IT'S NOT OKAY FOR WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. CLEARLY, THE PEOPLE.

THAT ARE OWNING THESE DUPLEXES. DON'T BET THEY'RE RUNNERS AND. THEY DON'T EVEN LEGALLY HAVE DUPLEXES. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. THEY PUT A WALL IN BUT THEY HAVEN'T SUBDIVIDED THE. UTILITIES SO THE PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE STUDIO ON ONE SIDE STILL HAS TO PAY HALF FOR THE PEOPLE THAT. OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT TWO M SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN TO ME. FOLLOWING THE RULES IN GENERAL, SO WHY ARE WE REWARDING? THESE PEOPLE THAT ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDED THEIR HOUSE BY REZONING EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF LEAVING IT SINGLE FAMILY. UM YOU SAID YOU WANT TO CLEAN UP. I'M HOPING YOU MEANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT JUST A MAP BECAUSE THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD ANYTHING ELSE IN. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WAY PRICES ARE SKYROCKETING HOUSING.

THERE IS A HOUSING SHORTAGE, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE RENT DUPLEXES. IT'S TO EMPOWER PEOPLE TO BECOME SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERS. AND THAT IS WHAT WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE. AND SO I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT SHE WOULD. TAKE A LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT A MAP AND HELP US CLEAN UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR DOUG FITZWATER. THE DECK. THAT'S WONDERFUL SEGAN ASSOCIATES. UNFORTUNATELY MICHAEL KATRI CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I'M WAS ASKED TO REPRESENT HIM HERE INTO DUPLEXES 505 FLAMINGO. AND HE ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT IN IMPENDING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO HIS PROPERTY. THAT WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE CITY'S STUART RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S OUR ONE ZONING. IT'S AN EXISTING DUPLEX, AND IT'S NON CONFORMING, SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO ALL THE BUILDING PERMIT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH WHICH IT DOES NEED SO. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE. IF YOU COULD WORK WITH US AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. THEO TO ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS WAS PROPERTY. RIGHT? OKAY? WAS THAT AT THE END OF YOUR COMMENT, OKAY. THANK YOU, MR ALBERT BREW HERE. MY NAME'S ALBERT.

JEWELER. I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF NINTH STREET IN FLAMINGO. AND. BE PERFECTLY FRANK WITH YOU. WE MOVED THERE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE TOOK ON EXISTING. HOME THAT WAS READY TO BE KNOCKED DOWN. GUTTED IT. AND COMPLETELY REDID IT. WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT. LESSON FIVE YEARS AGO. I WAS IN FRONT OF THIS CHAMBER. MR REITS. WE APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE, WHICH, BECAUSE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT SAYING THIS. WERE AGAINST IT. SO INSTEAD OF FIGHTING IT. WE ACQUIESCED TO THEIR WISHES AND ABANDONED THE VARIANCE. SO NOW WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE YEARS. I STILL LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HIS NEIGHBORS ARE GREAT PEOPLE.

AND FRANKLY, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REZONE THESE PIECES. WHY DON'T. YOU HAVE THE COMPLAINTS ABOARD OR HOWEVER, THIS IS HANDLED. TAKE CARE OF THE ARE TWO ZONING. IF THEY WANT TO PUT ON A DUPLEX UP THERE. WHY NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IF YOU WANT THE INVESTMENT. MAKE THAT A PRIORITY FOR THE OTHER NON CONFORMING WISHES. PLEASE NO MORE. NO NO DUPLEXES IN OUR

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NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT HIM. IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME AND EVERYONE HERE. THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT TO SAY. I DIDN'T INVEST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

HAVE DUPLEXES. THAT'S ALL THERE IS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE HE MOVED YES. HELEN MCBRIDE FROM FLAMINGO. I'M WILLING TO SIGN ANYTHING LEGAL DOCUMENT TO SAY. DUPLEX IT AND YOU PAY WITH HUGE IT. THEY JUST BOUGHT. HIS GRANDFATHER IT IN AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY HE CAN'T PULL ANY PERMIT. AND I. I WAS THERE AT THAT MEETING AND DO THE RIPPER AND NOT A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING NOW, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO FIND ANY LEGAL DOCUMENTS SAYING HE'S DUPLEXES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN. MIND ANOTHER THING. I'VE NOTICED THAT WITH DUPLEXES ARE AH LOT OF YOUNG COUPLES ARE BUYING THEM AND SAY, MY SISTER AND I LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID ACROSS THE STREET. THERE. FAMILIES WENT ON ONE SIDE AND THE MOTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT I AM WILLING TO SIGN ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT SAYING. THEY CAN FILL IN A PERMIT ON ANY DUPLEX ON FLAMINGO AND ITS SEVENTH STREET AND OCEAN BECAUSE I WAS THERE. ONTARIO NEAR WAS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AT THE TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY I START. YES, WE CAN NOW MOVE TO BOARD COMMENT. SO, UM, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING A LONG TERM BUREAUCRAT. WITH THE CITY'S STEWART IS, I RECALL EXACTLY WHAT HELEN HAS DESCRIBING ASSURANCES WERE MADE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY ANNEXED THIS AND I CAN ON LEE.

IMAGINE THERE SHOULD BE A RECORD OF THAT. FROM THE ANNEXATION OF THE KRUGER PROPERTY. THAT WAS RIGHT WHERE THE PACKING HOUSES I RECALL. ON THE SURROUNDING DUPLEXES. THEY WERE ANNEXED IN AT THEY WERE DUPLEXES ALREADY AND THEY MATCH THE CITY ZONING. I PERSONALLY CAN'T IMAGINE TURN AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD UPSIDE DOWN TO REZONE AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM OUR ONE TOE ARE TOO UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S PROBABLY A RECORD OF THE COMMISSION ACTION WHEN ALL THIS WAS ANNEXED AND THOSE OH NING'S WERE ANNEXED IN WITH THE CITY ZONING AT THE TIME. I DON'T WANT HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. THIS WAS AN EX PROPERTY AND THOSE OWN. THOSE WERE THE ZONING IS AT THE TIME BECAUSE THEY WERE DUPLEXES WHEN THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. SO AND THERE WAS A CROWD. AT THE TIME. WHEN WHEN IT WAS AN EX, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU REACH WAY BACK INTO THE CITY'S RECORDS, AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND EXACTLY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. SO I AM A PROPONENT OF LEAVING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE. IT BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK, YOU KNOW, BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, AND WITH OUR ONE IS, IT'S REALLY A VERY SMALL PORTION. THAT IS THE ARE TOO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DESIGNATE IT ALL AS OUR TWO IF THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUR ONE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE REASONING THERE YOU WERE GOING TO PROHIBIT SPOT. ZONING? YEAH. SO YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE A SINGLE OR TWO PEOPLE SPECIAL ZONING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THEIR JASON NEIGHBORS. SO THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT MUST MAKE IT A CONTINUOUS OR NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE ZONING TO CONFORM IT. SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHERE THERE WERE THE EXISTING DUPLEX IS THAT AS WE SAID, WE'RE KIND OF GRAND FATHERED IN BACK IN THE DAY, AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. SO THE WHOLE REASON YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IS BASED ON JUST CLEANING UP HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE DUPLEXES, WHICH AUTOMATICALLY IS A DEFAULT IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU THEN HAVE TO DEFAULT TO TRYING AS A HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE TO CHANGE THEM ALL TO OUR TWO.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? SO WHEN WE DID THE ANALYSIS ON THE. THE WHOLE BLOCK THAT YOU SEE SO EVERYTHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE LETTER. A NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE EXISTING ARE. TOO WE FOUND THAT EIGHT OFF THE 15 LOTS DID NOT COME FORM TO THE R ONE USE, SO THAT WAS SO IT'S MORE THAN 50% OF THOSE WHO DID NOT CONFORM. I MUST ADMIT I WASN'T. PRIVILEGED TO THE HISTORY THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS UM. YOU KNOW, I'M MINDED TO SAY, LET'S NOT GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT BETTER WHERE WE GO. I THINK IT'S THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A VERY STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD OPINION HERE. IT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT,

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YOU KNOW, STRIKE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FORCE ON THEM WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. UM. WE DO HAVE ISSUES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE THOSE. THE INTENT OF THIS WAS ENTIRELY JUST TWO FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IS TO CONSOLIDATE THE ZONING IN THAT AREA AS WE. HAVE TO DO UNDER THE LAW. WE CAN'T AS MUCH, THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GO IN AND SPOT ZONE DO DIFFERENT COLORS ALL OVER THE PLACE IS EASIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT. UM. WE DO HAVE TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THAT THEY'RE NONCONFORMING ON. WE WANT TO HELP THE REASON WHY WE WAY MOVE THIS PRIMARILY IS TO HELP.

PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE LEAGUE IN THE NON CONFORMIST LOTS. THAT'S A TO BE CANDID ABOUT IT.

THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE PEOPLE DO CHANGES TO PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMITS. AND THE ONLY PEOPLE BEING PUNISHED CURRENTLY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND COMING INTO THE CITY FOR A PERMIT. THE. OUR CODE AND PARAGRAPH CHAPTER EIGHT POINT OH THREE HAS A VERY DESCRIPTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT EXISTING NON CONFORMING DEVELOPMENT IN LOTS. AND THESE QUALIFY AS THAT, BUT AS A RESULT UNDER PARAGRAPH FOUR LAWFUL USE OF THE LAND EXISTING ON JULY 23RD 1990, ALTHOUGH SUCH USE DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE PROVISION OF THIS CHAPTER, MAYBE CONTINUED. HOWEVER NO SUCH NONCONFORMING YOUTH SHALL BE ENLARGED OR INCREASED, NOR SHALL ANY NON CONFORMING. YOU SPEAK EXTENDED TO OCCUPY A GREATER AREA OF LAND. PEOPLE HAVE TURNED OUT IN THE LAST 2025 YEARS TO WANT PORCHES. BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT SO WE COULD GO IN AND CODING FORCE. EVERYBODY IN THE ARE ONES AND EVERYBODY IN THE R TWO'S IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 15 OF THESE HOUSES. FOR ADDING PORCHES FOR READING BACK PATIOS FOR BEING FOR ADDING CONVERTING GARAGE IS EXPANDING THE SPACE AND THE DUPLEX IS ADDING ENCLOSING PORCHES, EXPANDING THE DO PLACES. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, EITHER, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE ARE POSITIONED ON IT WAS NOTHING'S CHANGING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE VACANT LOT OVER THERE ALL THE DUPLEX IS THERE GOING TO BE DUPLEXES ARE DUPLEXES. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. IN ORDER TO BUILD ANOTHER DUPLEX IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT NOW, YOU'D HAVE TO TEAR DOWN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE $400,000 ERIC WAS TALKING ABOUT IF YOU BOUGHT IT AND TORE IT DOWN. YOU WOULDN'T MAKE MONEY ON A DUPLEX, SO THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. IT WAS LITERALLY TO CONFIRM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE KEVIN SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU VOTE. NO, THAT'S FINE. WE JUST HAD A DUTY TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE. TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE COMING IN WITH APPLICATIONS AND CAUSES TO NOTICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE NOTICED AS HE MENTIONED, EIGHT ARE ONES THAT AIR NON CONFORMING AND. FOUR OF THE DUPLEX IS THAT HAVE MADE EXPANSIONS AND DONE THINGS ILLEGALLY OR WITHOUT PERMITS. AND AS A RESULT. WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS IT ONE BY ONE AND CODE ENFORCERS OR WHATEVER. WE JUST WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS JUST. LEAVE EVERYBODY THE WAY THEY WERE AND GET IT. IF YOU DON'T THINK THE CHANGE DON'T IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT IT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I DO ASK YOU KEEP REFERRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING THOSE TO THE LEFT THAT ARE NOT IN THE RED MARKING. YOU'RE NOT SAYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD THOSE AIR ALREADY THOSE AIR ALREADY ZONE. YEAH BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S PART OF THE LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THOSE ARE OUR TWO HALF OF THE BUT THOSE ARE THAT ZONING. OKAY, THOSE ONES ARE YOUNG WAS OUR ONE RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BUT THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S NOT CHANGING. $15 OKAY? YES, YOU MAY. WELCOME TO THE MIC AND JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. MY NAME IS JENNIFER COULD DERAIL LIVE ON FLAMINGO. IT'S SPOT ZONING WAS ILLEGAL. WHY DID. UGH! SPOTS ON THAT ONE AREA AGAIN. I'M NOT FULLY CONVERSANT WITH THE HISTORY THE CITY DIDN'T IT IS MR MASSING MENTIONED. THEY WERE ANNEXED IN. AND WHEN THE ANNEXATION TAKES TOOK PLACE, THE DUPLEX IS WE'RE ALREADY BUILT. SO THE CITY SAID, THOSE DUPLEXES CONSIDER A AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH HIM BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE BEFORE THEY BECAME PART OF THE CITY. THE DIFFERENCE IS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADD A DRIVEWAY. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADD A PORCH. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADD A FRONT EVE. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADD ANY ADDITION ROOM TO THEIR HOUSE. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CHANGE EXACTLY HOW THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE IN EXTENT UNDER THE CODE. THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FOR ME, I'M PRETTY SURE. WAS CONVERTED TO A DUPLEX AFTERWARDS. AND THEN THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. WELL THAT'S HIS OWN ONE THAT'S

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ALREADY ARE TOO. SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY ARE, TOO.

THEN WHY WON'T THEY GIVE THEM UTILITIES TO HAVE BOTH SIDES SPLIT THEIR UTILITY? I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET A PERMIT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS PEOPLE THERE, THERE'S PROPERTY OWNERS THERE THAT DON'T PULL PERMITS. AND YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT DO PULL PERMITS GET HELD BECAUSE WE CAN'T HELP THEM. SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE FOR THE EXISTING ARE TOO OR THE ONES THAT ARE RUNNING INTO THIS PROBLEM THAT WERE GRANDFATHERED IN. IS THERE ANY MECHANISM TO ALLOW THEM TO MAKE CHANGES? SIDES REZONING ALL OF THEM. THEY COULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, BUT THE ACTUAL. USE OFF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S OUR ONE DOES NOT ALLOW DUPLEX SO THEY WOULD NOT. EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE GRANDFATHER PUT A NEW ROOF ON. THEY CAN PAINT THE WALLS THEY COULD PUT THAILAND THEY CAN DO THAT. THEY JUST CAN'T EXPAND. THEIR HOUSE, AND ANYWAY, THEY CAN'T MAKE IT TO CANADA PORCH. THEY CAN'T HAVE A ROOM. EVEN IF THEY WENT BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, COULD THEY I DON'T KNOW. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING. WHAT WE'RE TALKING TO HERE. IS THIS THIS TWO THERE'S TWO ISSUES ONE. THE EXISTING PROPERTIES IN THE ARE ONES THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY. COULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ON DEFINED, YOU KNOW, VARIANCES FOR SETBACKS OR WHATEVER. THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE HELD IS DUPLEXES IN THE R ONE ARMEL PROBLEMATICAL. IN THAT THE. THEY USE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT, SO THE USE OF A DUPLEX IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE OLD ONE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THEY BUILT THE DUPLEX ILLEGALLY CROWN IN OUR ONE PROPERTY. RIGHT? AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHY.

BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T AN ACCENT OR ONE YOU ANNEX, THEN DUPLEXES, SO MY QUITE NO. IS DID THEY BUILD THE DUPLEX? MARWAN'S ANNEXED INTO OKAY, BUT THE MORE THEY SINGLE FAMILY OR WHERE THEY DUPLEXES AT THE TIME YOU REMEMBER BETTER THAN I DO, LARRY. THE WHOLE FAMILY. LONG AGO. THEY ILLEGALLY CONVERTED IT TO A DUPLEX. NICK DID NOTHING ABOUT WELL, THAT. OKAY.

WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE WITH HANDS UP. WE WILL ALLOW THOSE COMMENTS. BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, I REALLY NEED YOU TO FORMALLY WRITE IT DOWN, OKAY? YOU, SIR.

IS THAT WENT AROUND TALKING TO PEOPLE AND TELL ME WHAT IS GOING ON. I WAS HOPING I WAS THINKING THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH ME. HEY. WHY ARE WE GONNA TURN THREE CITY BLOCKS INTO DO PLAGUE ZONE FOR THE SAKE OF THREE NON CONFORMING DUPLEXES ON FLAMINGO? AND MY GUT WAS EVERYONE WOULD AGREE. YOU KNOW WHAT. LET ME TAKE CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE YOU NEED I DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, LET HIM GRANT. WHATEVER'S GRANDFATHER DIDN'T GO AHEAD. LET IT HAPPEN. WHATEVER YOU GOTTA DO. OKAY, BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS.

PEOPLE THAT LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THESE THREE ILLEGAL DUPLEX IS THAT FOUND OUT THEY WERE ILLEGAL. YOU WERE LIKE, OH, HECK, NO. THIS USE THIS IS A CHANCE TO GET RID OF HIM. SO I'M SAYING OK, WELL, THAT'D BE A GOOD PLACE TO START THE NEGOTIATIONS FROM, BUT I DON'T THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND. I'M NOT SAYING I GOT A LOT OF TIME, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. RIGHT. THERE IS JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF OUR GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT GOES DOLPHIN. MADISON HE'S PARKWAY. AND. I'M GONNA IF THIS GETS PUSHED FORWARD, ALMOST GONNA MAKE IT MY PERSONAL, UH. DEAL TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE SHOWS UP FOR THE NEXT ONE. NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT GOT THEIR NOTICES WITHIN 300 FT AND AGAIN, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, LOOK, TAKE CARE OF THOSE THREE. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SIR, WHO'S ALREADY SPOKEN ONCE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE GENTLEMAN OVER IN THE BACK. WROTE. YOU GIVE YOU ALL A COPY OF THIS. I THOUGHT I RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS IN OUR. HIRES PACKAGE IN 2003, OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE I'M WE'RE ONE OF THE VICTIMS. HEARD EVERYTHING.

RIGHT. HERE'S WHERE I'M GONNA DIVIDE IT LOST. HERE. IF YOU RE ZONE. THOSE THREE LATTES AS ARE

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TOO BRAVO LOCKED RIGHT HERE. HE HAS LESS REQUIREMENTS. I DO TOO. STAY WITH THEN.

REQUIREMENTS TO OUR TWO MEANING I CAN HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILIES. IT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE OF MY. SETBACKS ON THE SIDES OF MY HOUSE. BROTHER COULD BUILD. THREE STORY MULTI FAMILY UNIT THERE. I DIDN'T BUY THAT FOR THAT. DIDN'T BUY AND I DON'T THINK. NEIGHBORS I GOT SEVERAL NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. THEY DIDN'T BUY IT FROM NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBORS ON FLAMINGO RIGHT HERE. I DON'T WANT. AND I THINK THAT GOES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU GO TO RECLASSIFY. IN OUR 1 TO 1 OR TWO THAT YOU HAVE LESS RESTRICTIONS. AND THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE. I MEAN WAY HAVE WORK AND STUART TO CLEANING UP ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OKAY? WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET. I'M I DON'T THINK I NEED TO GO TO A FINANCIAL EXPENSE BECAUSE I NEED A COLOR CODE ON THAT MAP. IT'S 2021. WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH MAPS AND SECOND SO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR KEVIN LOWE. THIS WILL BE OUR FINAL COMMENT FOR THE EVENING. WELL I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I PLAYED TAX PAYERS MONEY AND YOU'VE GOT THE LES MIS. MAP UP THERE IS POSSIBLE. I MEAN, SURVEYORS. HERE THEY ARE MY NEIGHBORS.

THIS IS PATHETIC. REALLY CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THAT. OKAY. I LIVE AT A $15 AND DR IN THERE FOR 25 YEARS. ELLIOT'S HERE, YOU KNOW? ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND HERE. HE.

IN HERE FOREVER. MOST OF HIS LIFE, HE RENTS OUT HOUSES AND ARNE PUT IN THE ALL ROUND THAT AREA. THAT FIRST CAME IN. THE HOUSE NEXT TO ME, IT WAS TRASHED. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GONE. EVERYBODY IN HERE. HAS INCREASED THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. AND I LOVE RAIDED DEATH AND THE RENTERS DON'T TAKE CARE OF PROPERTIES. HE HAS A HOUSE NEXT DOOR. THE DEFENDER JUST LEFT. HE CAME IN THERE. HE'S FIXING IT UP. OKAY, WE'RE FIGHT. NOT ONLY STUPID DUPLEXES WERE FIGHTING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BUY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RAN OUT THE HOUSES. HOW GUY HILL ON THE CORNER OFF. WHERE HE USED ME JUST BUILT THE HOUSE. IT WAS A FORECLOSURE. FIX IT TOTALLY UP AND THEN YOU CAN RENT IT OUT FOR 200. YOU. I DON'T KNOW. $2000 A MONTH. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE WANT OF NICE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE BOUGHT UP THE PROPERTY FOR OR WANT ALL THE WAY. SO THE DUPLEX IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE JUST MUCH TRASH. YOU PULL DOWN HIS HOSE DOWN. CAN YOU READ? RESULT FOR OUR ONE THAT'S ALL THEY'RE STILL IT. OKAY, THERE'S DUPLEXES ON OTHER SIDE NEAR KRUGER CREEK. OKAY AND THEN IF YOU GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THESE OCEAN, THERE'S A DUPLEX IS OVER THERE. THEY'RE ALL NICE PEOPLE ARE FIXING THEM UP. THIS TRASH CRAP. JUST TIRED DOWN. IT'S NOT GOING TO IT. THEY CAN'T FIX ANYTHING. IT'S WOOD FRAME HOUSES. LET'S MAKE IT NICE. WE'RE NOT PAYING OUR PACKS DEVILS FOR YOU TO COME IN AND TELL US THAT YOU NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSES. YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE A PARKING GARAGE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE THE FIGHT TRAFFIC. I GOT IT ESCALATED TO MOVE SO I CAN PARK HERE TO MAKE TO THE MEETING. IT'S GETTING REALLY PATHETIC. AND THIS IS A FOUR TIME THAT I'VE BEEN TO THESE MEETINGS FOR ZONING DON'T CHANCE HIS OWN IN WE DON'T WANT ZERO LOT LINES. YOU KNOW, SO LET'S PLEASE STOP. LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS. LIKE THE MAN SAYS THE 2000 AND 21 YOU CAN'T PRODUCE. PEOPLE CAN READ IS ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE REST OF THE BOARD. WE HAVE OTHER COMMENT. SURE. I AGREE WITH LARRY. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MESS WITH THE ZONING RIGHT NOW. I THINK THERE'S A POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR SOMETHING HE'S NOT PERFORMING USES OUTSIDE OF THIS, WHETHER IT'S GRANDFATHER, RING OR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OR

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COMMISSION. I APPRECIATE THE NON CONFORMING USES THAT WANT TO FIX UP AND UPKEEP. THERE SHOULD BE A WAY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT A REZONING. WOULD AGREE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YEAH, I AGREE THAT WAY SHOULD TRY AND FIND A WAY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO IMPROVE SOME OF. SINCE I DON'T THINK BULLDOZING THEM DOWN, IT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A LEGAL WAY FOR THEM TO APPROVE IT. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS IS THE ONE THAT IT'S LOVE. I AGREED TONTO. THE DUE PROCESS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THE UPKEEP THAT THEY NEED, BUT NOT BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. I WALKED THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME AND THE HOMES THEY'RE VERY NICELY KEPT. I AGREE. LARRY I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU SURE, UNDER THE EXISTING BUILDING CODES THEIR CODES ALLOW YOU TO REPAIR, JUST NOT EXPAND. EXISTING BUILDINGS. WELL THE WHAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS OWNING THE BUILDING CODE WILL ALLOW YOU TO. IF YOU DO IT FOR CODE YOU CAN DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. WHAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING IS. IS THAT ZONING PROVISIONS RIGHT PRECLUDE.

EXPANSION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THE CODE ITSELF THE CITY CODE REGARDING NINE CONFORMING USE BECAUSE ANY OTHER LIKE OUR ONE CAN EXPAND AND IN OUR ONE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T VIOLENCE TO SET BACK, THE NON CONFORMING USE CAN'T EXPERIENCE. RIGHT? AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST WERE INCIDENTS LIKE THIS POPPED UP. I THINK PROBABLY MR MARTEL. MAYBE YOU REMEMBER. WE HAVE SOME GAS STATIONS, NOT CONFORMING USES. AND ALMOST I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CONDITIONAL USED. OR IT WAS THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. BUT WHEN THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE NEIGHBORHOODS OWNERS WANTED TO HIM DO IT. WE HAD SOME PROCESS.

YEAH IT'S A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THE REALITY IS IF. I'M NOT A BETTING MAN. BUT I DOUBT THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE REAL EXCITED IF ONE OF THESE DUPLEXES CAME IN TO EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT. I THINK THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WOULD PROBABLY BE. JUSTICE RESISTANT, BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I AGREE THAT YOU COULD GO THROUGH A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ON A SINGLE PROCESS. IT'S A LOT OF HOUSES WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO VACANT LOTS THAT THE CHANGE. WAS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS JUST GOING TO INVEST IT. THE WAY IT ALREADY IS. AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO A SPOT ZONING, SO WE HAD TO DRAW THE MAP TO INCLUDE ALL THE DUPLEX IS THAT WE SAW WERE THERE. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON FOR IT. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE BOARD'S GONNA HAVE EMOTIONAL A SECOND, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION WASN'T FOR ANY NEFARIOUS EFFECT OR FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS JUST TO REALLY CAPTURE. WHAT'S THERE. EXISTING DUPLEX OWNERS. THEY DO HAVE A PROCESS. GET TO THE CITY INDIVIDUAL LOTS. WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA IMPROVE THE BUILDING. OKAY THERE'S TWO PROCESSES. THERE'S THE ONE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. AND THEN THERE'S THE WEEKEND WARRIOR. IT JUST DOES IT ON THE WEEKEND, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME BEFORE THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS RIGHT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A PRETTY ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO PROBABLY MAKES PHONE CALLS. MM HMM. OKAY? YES, WE'RE JUST ADVISORY. SO OUR CONDITIONS.

WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TONIGHT. SIMPLICITY WILL FOLLOW UP TO THE COMMISSION AND STOP SO. AGAIN. OUR VOTES ARE ADVISORY. AND. THE COMMISSION LISTENS, TOE RECORDS AND STUFF.

SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYING SO EVERYTHING YOU PRICE SAID TONIGHT AND YOUR HANDS ARE GONNA BE E THINK I HEARD KEVIN SAY HE'S NOT GONNA MOVE IT FORWARD, SO ABSENT DIRECTION FROM THIS BOARD TO MOVE IT FORWARD THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF I WAS JUST GONNA WITHDRAW IT.

IT'S GONNA GO AWAY. YEAH, BUT THIS BOY, YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION ALONE. ALWAYS IF WE DON'T TAKE IT UP BECAUSE IT'S A PLAN. USE CHANGE. IT STOPS HERE. OKAY. I'M FROM SPAIN.

OKAY. WHAT IF SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR NON MOTION? GONNA MAKE EMOTION. WITHDRAW THE GYM. YOU COULD MAKE A PROMOTION RECOMMENDING STUFF. DON'T MOVE ANY FURTHER FORWARD WITH THIS? I THINK THAT WOULD ADVISE THAT. I SECOND THAT YEAH. DO THE ROLL CALL.

REMEMBER BRUMFIELD. YEAH. REMEMBER STRONG? YES. REMEMBER MATH THING? REMEMBER VITALI? YES. REMEMBER MOTHER'S CHAIR, LORENE. YES. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH. WE HAVE ANY OTHER STAFF UPDATES THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL THOSE IN

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