Apr 29, 2021 Local Planning Agency

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GOOD EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE MEETING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE WILL FIRST DO THE CALL TO ORDER FOR THE ROLL CALL. SHARE LOREEN HERE. VICE CHAIR DE LA VEGA.

REMEMBER BRUMFIELD. REMEMBER STRONG. YOU'RE REMEMBER MASSING. REMEMBER MOTHERS.

REMEMBER. BYE, TALI HERE. OKAY, WE WILL NOT NOW ALL STAND AND FACE THE FLAG FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. CAN STATES OF AMERICA, PROBABLY ONE NATION UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY. WE HAVE A MOTION OF THE AGENDA BEFORE US TONIGHT. I'M DOES

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FANTASTIC. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO OUR OFFICIAL AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE START THIS EVENING. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF OPINIONS BOTH FOR AND AGAINST. WHAT IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED WHAT I ASKED AT THE START OF THIS MEETING IS THAT EVERYONE FOLLOWED THE PLEDGE OF CIVILITY, WHICH IS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL NOT HAVE SHOUTING, CLAPPING EITHER WAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY DESERVES THEIR SAY. AND BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE HAVE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS. THE FOREIGN AGAINST AND AS WE DELIBERATE THIS EVENING, THOSE ITEMS WILL ALSO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO I ASKED THAT EVERYBODY IS RESPECTFUL. THE OTHER THING I ASK, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS THAT THIS BOARD HERE IS NOT ELECTED. IT IS NOT PAID. IT IS VOLUNTEERS AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY JUST LIKE YOU. WE'RE HERE OF OUR THROW FREE WILL BECAUSE WE WANT TO SERVE, SO PLEASE REMEMBER THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH YOUR COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, SO

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ORDINANCE NO: 2466-2020 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEREBY ASSIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF “NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT” TO THE 49+/- ACRE PROPERTY, OWNED BY NEHME HOLDINGS, LLC AND WILLOUGHBY GROUP, LLC LOCATED ALONG SR-76 KANNER HIGHWAY, SOUTH OF MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL AND ABUTTING LYCHEE TREE NURSERY; SAID LAND, ANNEXED BY ORDINANCE No. 2327-2016 AND ORDINANCE No. 2337-2017, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; AND CONCURRENTLY ASSIGNING “CPUD” ZONING TO SAID LAND ON THE CITY’S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP; ESTABLISHING THE KANNER CPUD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF 162,020 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, BULK MERCHANDISE, AND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICES BUILDING FOOTPRINT WITH A STAND ALONE KIOSK AND FUEL FACILITY, 398 RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT PADS PROVIDING FOR APPROVAL OF A MASTER SITE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIMETABLE OF DEVELOPMENT; DECLARING THE PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PROVIDING FOR ACCEPTANCE BY THE APPLICANT AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

BRINGING THE TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT TO 7 22 AND THE AFRICAN IS PROVIDING 700 SPACES FOR RESIDENTIAL. SECOND REQUEST IS FROM THE PARKING CODE ALSO. WITHIN A LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PROVIDES FOR SHOPPING CARTS BY THE PATRONS. TYPICALLY ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 25 SPACES IS DEDICATED FOR THE STORAGE OF THOSE PARK SHOPPING CARTS. THE SWORD AREA INCLUDES OFFENSIVE MATERIAL TO KEEP THE SHOPPING CARTS IN SPACE. IN THE SPACE. REQUIRED SPACES TO BE DEDICATED FOR STORAGE OF THE SHOPPING CARDS IS 24. THE AFRICAN IS PROVIDING 14 SPACES FOR STORAGE. AND THEN THIRD FINALLY, FROM THE LANDSCAPING CODE. THE CODE REQUIRES THAT CONTINUED LANDSCAPED ISLANDS PEOPLE FRIDAY FOR EVERY 10 PARKING SPACES AND THAT EACH

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PROJECT SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN BE PROUD OF, AND IT WILL BE AN ASSET IN A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE CASE. BUT I'M GONNA HAVE DUG THIS WATER COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN, AND HE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE ORATIONS AND WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. YOU GET TO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, SO THAT WHEN WE TURN IT OVER TO DOUG. THE DEAD FITZWATER WITH ACETONE ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. SO, UM. WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT LARGER CONTEXT. MATH OF THE AREA. JUST THAT EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR. THIS IS THE 49 ACRES THAT WERE WE'RE IN. FOR SHOULD UNDER RIGHT NOW, WITH SKANDER. SEE FOR YOU, D SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED RECENTLY IN THE LAST TWO SAY, 10 YEARS WE'VE HAD THE VETERANS MEMORIAL BRIDGE, AND NOW WE HAVE TWO BRIDGES INTO PALM CITY WITH HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO CANTER HIGHWAY. SPENT TOGETHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SIX RIGHT OF WAY. THAT WILL BE WELL SOON. UM EXTEND OVER TORUS ONE. WE HAVE SELFISH SPLASH, UM IN THE COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT OVER IN THIS SIDE. WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY BE A. ENTITY FOR THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS. WE HAVE TO CROSS IN HERE. WHICH IS A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

THEREFORE FOUND OUT ABOUT 15 YEARS. SO, SO WITH THAT I WANT TO GO TO OUR NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS CANTOR HIGHWAY. I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING. MARTIN COUNTY FOR MARTIN COUNTIES WEBSITE. WE HAVE CANTOR HIGHWAY IN 1966. TWO LANE HIGHWAY. CANTOR HIGHWAY 90 95 2 LANE HIGHWAY. SO IN THIS 30 YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN PHOTOS, THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH CHANGE. AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE REMEMBER CANTOR HIGHWAY THE WAY THE WAY IT WAS. NOW IN 1996, I THINK WAS AROUND 99 6. WE HAD SOME IMPROVEMENTS. WHERE THE FOUR LANE HI. CANTOR HIGHWAY AND FOR THE NEXT 13 OR SO YEARS. THAT'S THE WAY THAT CANTOR HIGHLANDS OPERATING. THEN RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD THE EXPANSION FOR CANTOR HIGHWAY TO, UM, SIX LENGTHS, SO THEY'VE BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO CANTER HIGHWAY. UM. OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS. YOU COULD YOU KNOW THAT YOU NOW SUPPORT OF PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS? SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPHIC AS WELL. THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE TWO ORDINANCES NUMBER 23 27

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ON BEN. WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL ANY CHANGE TO THE COMMERCIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOP? SO THE LAND USE AT THE TIME WITH MARTIN COUNTY WAS LOADED. SEE PRESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. SO THE LAND USE. UM WELL, THIS IS A REQUEST TO ASSIGN A FUTURE LAND USE DESTINATION NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT ZONING REQUEST THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF CPU, D. HEAT TO ALLOW RETAIL BULK MOTION EYES FOR COSTCO 162,000 SQUARE FEET. STAND ALONE FUEL KIOSK AND FUEL FACILITY 398 RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS.

AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT, PAT. NO ONE INTENDED TO WALK YOU ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO DATE. S BACK IN 2000 AND 18. WE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN FOR SOLELY THE TOSCO.

WE HAD ACCESS OFF A CANTOR HIGHWAY. WAY WERE RELOCATING THE DEITY BASIN TO THE REAR.

PROPERTY UM, COSTUME LOOKED AT IT. UM, THEY JUST WEREN'T ABLE MM. THEY WANTED TO BRING JOE MARINO INTO THE INTO THE PROJECT, SO. WHAT WAY DID IS OUR NEXT GENERATION AND SUBMITTED THIS BACK IN. BACK IN 2000 AND 20. THIS IS THE COSTCO THERE WAS UP AGAINST THE TREE FARMS. WE HAD THE FUEL FACILITY DOWN IN THIS REGION. WE HAD RETAIL. WE HAD RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS WRAPPING THE PROPERTY. AND WE HAD A RESTAURANT PAD OVER IN THIS SECTION. SO WHEN WE MADE THE APPLICATION AND YOU KNOW, IN UNDER REVIEW WITH THE CITY. THE ASSIST, AND I BELIEVE RIGHTLY SO TO PROVIDE A CONNECTOR ROAD BETWEEN AND OUR HIGHWAY. WELL, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE. WE LOOKED AT THE DESIGN. WE COULDN'T MAKE IT. WORK WITH. THIS IS DESIGNED THE WAY IT WAS SET UP WITH THE APARTMENTS HERE. WE'RE TAKING OUT THE COSTCO. WORKING. WE WENT BACK TO THE TABLE AND DESIGNED IT. WE DESIGNED THE PROJECT BACK IN TO THAT, UM LATE 2020. NO. WE, UH I'M OVER THIS PLAN. SO, SO I THINK THIS MEETS A LOT OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY WAS LOOKING FOR. WE HAVE THE CONNECTOR ROAD BETWEEN CANADA HIGHWAY NOW WE HAVE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE. WE HAVE THEY. ACTOR ROAD CONTINUES, UPTO WILL ABATE. THIS WILL BE A SIGNAL IZED INTERSECTION. WE MAINTAINED AND EXPANDED THE FUT POND HERE, SO WE HAVE RETAIL.

WE HAVE SOME. RESTAURANT PADS HERE THAT FUEL FACILITIES PUSH BACK OFF OF CANDOR HIGHWAY HE PUSHED THE COSTCO BACK. IT'S NO LONGER OVER IN THIS SECTION. WAY PUT THE RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS ALONG ALONG THE NORTH KOREA PROPERTY, SO IT'S MORE CONSOLIDATED. I THINK IT WORKS BETTER. WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. WE HAVE THE COSTAS SIDE. WE HAVE THE CONNECTOR ROAD. AND SO WITH THAT, THEN WE MET WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. AND I WANTED TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS WITH THIS SITE PLAN SO BOOKS.

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AND THERE WAS NO SHADE THROWN ONTO THIS PROPERTY. THE OTHER ITEM. WE DID THAT. IT HELPS IS THIS IS THE PREVIOUS PLAN. HE TOOK THESE GARAGES AND THIS LANDSCAPE ISLAND. WE PLACE IT ALONG THE PROPERTY. NOW WE HAVE GARAGES AND WE WIDENED THE BUFFER. IN SOME AREAS, ALMOST 40 FT WIDE. WE HAVE. AH, WE HAVE A WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND RAJ IS HERE. SO AS WE CONTINUED THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING WITH THE D O T. AND THE CONNECTION HERE IN THE SIGNAL IZATION. SO OUR NEXT GENERATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN 2021 APRIL 2021.

JUST THIS, UM. THIS SIGNAL IZATION HERE. ALIGN THE DRIVEWAYS. OUR NATION WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. AND. WITH WITH THIS NOW WE HAVE WE HAVE A MORE POSITIVE ALIGNMENT. WE HAVE. DRIVE WHILE AT THE CONNECTOR ROAD. WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE YOU'RE TOO LATE. WE HAVE THE DRY DETENTION, WHICH IT WILL BE PLANTED OUT IN NATIVE PLANTS. WE HAVE A LAKE.

WE HAVE LITERAL. WE HAVE NATIVE PLENTY FRIENDS IT AROUND THE PERIMETER. HAVE WORLD IN THIS AREA AS WELL. AS YOU CONTINUE UP, WE HAVE DR ATTENTION. THIS AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE PLANTED OUT, THEN ALONG WILLOUGHBY. HAVE A LAKE, AND THERE'S SEVERAL LARGE OAK TREES ALONG THIS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO PRESERVE THOSE OAK TREES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DENSITY TO WE'RE ASKING FOR 398 UNITS. BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF THE C R. A WERE LOUDER FOR 15 YEARS PER ACRE. WE'RE PROVIDING 8.1 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS CALCULATED PROJECT WIDE. WANT TO SHOW SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS MORE OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW. WORTH OVER THE PROPOSED LAKE TO THE FOUR STORY APARTMENTS. YOU CAN SEE THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE ROYAL PALMS THAT WE'RE GONNA PLANT ALONG THE YEAH. A CONNECTED ROAD. HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE ELEVATIONS. THERE'S A RENDERING ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED COSTCO. AND THIS IS FOR THE OUT PARCELS. THESE AIR THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS OF THE. TWO OUT PARCELS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THEN AS WELL AS HE RETAIL STRIP CENTER. SO IT'S TOM ALLUDED TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS. THESE ARE THE WAIVER REQUESTS WERE REQUESTED A WAIVER OF ABOUT 22 PARKING SPACES FOR THE MULTI FAMILY. JOE OPERATES SEVERAL. MY FAMILY PROJECTS ON DID HE FEELS AT 1.76 PACES PER UNIT IS ADEQUATE. COSTCO IS REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF PART OF CAR CORRALS. BECAUSE OPERATIONALLY THEY JUST DON'T NEED 24. THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSTANTLY OUT THERE COLLECTING THE CARDS. PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS. AND WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR 14 ROSE TO HAVE MORE THAN 10 PARKING SPACES WITHOUT AN ISLAND. SO I WANT TO ALSO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT. HOSKO AND SOME OF THEIR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY. THEIR EMPLOYMENT FAX HERE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY PAY SERVICE

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AFTER SIX YEARS OF THE 59,000. THEY ALSO DO BONUS CHECKS EVERY YOU KNOW AT TIMES FOR $13,000.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS JUST KIND OF GOES TO SHOW HOW GIVEN EMPLOYER COSTCO IS IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW WHEN THEY WHEN THEY OPEN, THEY EXPECT TO TURN OVER ABOUT 13. AFTER ONE YEAR. THEIR TURNOVER DROPS DOWN TO ABOUT 7% FOR THE OR THE KOSTKA. AND THEY ALSO LOOK TO HIRE PART TIME. SO YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK TO HAVE A 50. BETWEEN FULL TIME PART TIME. MM. AND THEN AFTER SIX MONTHS, YOU'RE YOU RECEIVE CORE MEDICAL, DENTAL ON VACATION BENEFITS, AND YOU HAVE TO WORK 23 HOURS PER WEEK, BUT COSTCO OR GUARANTEES 24 HOURS A WEEK TO PART TIME EMPLOYEES. THAT'S A POSITIVE. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO JOE MARINA. BEFORE BEFORE I TURNED BACK OVER THE JOB. I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST MENTION A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS WE DID HAVE AND DON'T TOUCH THAT WE MET WITH THE LEACHING FARMS, FOLKS.

NURSERY FOLKS, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH HIM TWICE. WE PRESENTED THE PLAN THEY GAVE US.

IMPORTANT AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE DUG, SHADED. WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES, AND JOE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT WE ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH THE RIVER LAND. FOLKS. THEY HAD REPRESENTATIVES. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR PROJECT AND THEY SENT REPRESENTATIVES. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HERE THIS EVENING FROM RIVER LAND WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, BUT WE DID ALSO MEET WITH THEM. SO WE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE.

CONCERNS WERE WHAT THE ISSUES WERE IN AGAIN. WE WORKED THROUGH STAFF SO THAT WHEN THEY TURNED IT OVER TO BOB, CAN I HAVE? DID YOU MEET WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY? HOMEOWNERS ON WILLOUGHBY. SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERS ON WELL, YOU KNOW THAT PARCEL THAT'S RIGHT ABOVE YOU THAT SINGLE THE R ONE PARTIAL. OH I'M SORRY. THE FIVE ACRE TRY. I DON'T BELIEVE WE DID. WE DID NOT MEET WITH HER NOW. LEAVING MY NAME'S JOE MARINO PRINCIPLE OF EMINEM REALTY PARTNERS. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF IN THE COMPANY. I STARTED OUT AS A AS A TRADESMAN GRANDFATHER WAS A TRACE WHEN MY FATHER WAS A TRADESMAN WHO STARTED OFF HIS LABORERS, CARPENTERS, MASONS, IRONWORKERS AND OPERATING ENGINEERS IN THE BUILDING BUSINESS. AND WHEN IS ABOUT 19, I DECIDED I WANT TO GO OUT NOT ONLY BUILD FOR OTHER PEOPLE, BUT ALSO BUILD FOR MYSELF. AND SO WE STARTED BUILDING. APARTMENTS SHOPPING CENTERS AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND WE STILL REMAIN PRIVATE COMPANY 30, PLUS YEARS LATER. IN ABOUT 20. YEARS AGO, I JOINED FORCES WITH ANOTHER GENTLEMAN NAMED JACK MORRIS, WHO HAD A SIMILAR BACKGROUND. AND. WE'RE PARTNERS. THAT'S WHAT'S EMINEM, MORRISON, MARINO. THEN WE STILL BUILDING ON OUR OWN PROPERTIES IN MULTIPLE STATES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INSTITUTIONAL PARTNERS.

IT'S SORT OF OLD SCHOOL. LANDLORD. FAMILY OWNERSHIP. TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT WE DO. WE TRY TO BUILD IT FOR THE LONG HAUL AND. DON'T LIKE TO SELL ANYTHING LIKE TO KEEP IT MANAGES TO BECOME PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COMMUNITY. UM. BACK AROUND 20 YEARS AGO, THE SAME TIME WE STARTED BUILDING RELATIONSHIP WITH COSTCO AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE FOUNDER AND CHAIRMAN. UM. AND HE GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP SOME PROPERTIES FORM. HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND WE CAME THROUGH AND. THAT DAY, WE BECAME A TRUSTED PARTNER WITH COSTCO TO DEVELOP SITES FOR THEM, AND CALIFORNIA AND FLORIDA IN NEW JERSEY. AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WAY LEARNED OVER THE YEARS. AND THAT'S WHAT SORT OF BROUGHT US HERE TONIGHT. AND AS BOB AND DOUG SAID, WE'VE. YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO BUILD THIS RIGHT, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS OF. NEIGHBORS AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, D O T AND THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THIS. BECAUSE IT COULD. IT'S A BIG INVESTMENT ON YOUR PART WAY WANTED TO WORK AND WHAT WE WANTED TO WORK FOR THE LONG HAUL. REFERRED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE LONG LONG

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SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MIGHT HAVE SO GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE CAN LEAVE THE SITE PLAN OUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING AS I WILL REMIND YOU, YOU MUST TO MAKE A COMMENT. YOU MUST HAVE FILLED OUT ONE OF THESE ITEMS. YOU HAVE NOT. YOU CANNOT MAKE A COMMENT. YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE THREE MINUTES. NO MORE. IT WILL NOT BE CLAPPING, CHEERING OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE I SAID WITH A LOT OF OPINIONS THAT WE WANT TO GET THROUGH. YOU ARE WELCOME THAT IF THE PERSON BEFORE YOU SAYS ALMOST THE SAME THING YOU CAN SAY SUPPORT THE PERSON BEFORE ME. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE, EH? SO WE CAN GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION HEARD. ALL RIGHT, FIRST UP, MRS DEBBIE, SHE'LL IMAGE SLIM A TREE. YEAH. REALLY DIDN'T PLAN TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT. I'M PALM CITY. I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 38 YEARS. AND WE REALIZE THAT. IT'S BEEN APPROVED TO BUILD LARGE STORAGE FACILITIES IN MARTIN COUNTY, WHICH LIMITS HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN STORE WHATEVER THEY STORE IN THE LARGE FACILITIES. SO WHY NOT A COSTCO BE BUILT FOR EVERYONE IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA? THEY ALSO BRING TAXES TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS WOULD LOVE. IT WAS A SHAME THAT IT WAS DENIED IN PALM CITY. WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT THE SITE WAS PERFECT.NED DS SECOND OPTION, I THINK IS ALSO PERFECT. OTHERWISE HERE WE GO AGAIN. IT GOES TO PORT ST LUCIE. THEY ALREADY HAVE A BJ'S UNDERSTANDS. SO WE DESERVE A COSTCO. I'M PRETTY SURE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT AT THIS TIME WE'LL SHOP THERE. IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL SHOP. PLEASE APPROVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR MICHAEL CRAG. MR MICHAEL CRAIG.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, IT MIGHT GIVE THANKS. MM. OKAY? FIRST OFF. I'D LIKE TO SAY, I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL LIKE A COSTCO JUST NOT IN THEIR BACKYARD. BUT. WHAT? I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THIS. I'M A WILL BE RESIDENT BASICALLY WALKING DISTANCE FROM WHERE THIS IS PROPOSED. MY BACKGROUND IS IN SEVERAL ENGINEERING AND SIGHT DEVELOPED. SO I'M A RETIRED ROAD BUILDING CONTRACTOR. AND HERE FOR HALF MY LIFE 30 SOMETHING YEARS. WHAT? WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IS THIS THIS PROPOSED LOCATION IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST CONGESTED AREAS IN THE CITY. MOM SAID HE SAID NO TO COSTCO. AND THEY WERE EVEN WITH THE PROXIMITY. OF NEXT TO MY NIGHT NEXT TO THE TURNPIKE. NOW THE CITY IS PROPOSING THIS LOCATION NEXT DOOR TO A HIGH SCHOOL. AT LAST COUNT, THERE WAS MORE THAN A DOZEN PROJECTS WITHIN THE PIPELINE OF THE CITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME, NOT TO MENTION WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT RECENTLY. BEFORE I GO ON TOUR OUR ROAD SITUATION I'D LIKE TO SAY I'VE BECOME A FAMILIAR WITH THE LEAKY TREE NURSERY. AND THEY HAVE A POND THAT SERVICES THEIR TREES. THAT POND AND A DROUGHT SEASON IS BASICALLY AT THERE'S NO WATER. YOU TURN AROUND AND TAKE 49 ACRES AND DEVELOP IT AND PUT DRY OR WET RETENTION AREA. AS I WORKED WITH ENGINEERS IN MY OWN PHYSICAL PROJECTS. THERE WILL BE NO WATER IN THAT POND. SO YOU BASICALLY DROVE HIM OUT OF BUSINESS. THAT'S THAT'S FIRST OFF SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR THAT LONG. GETTING ONTO THE GROWTH PROBLEM. RESPONSIBLE GROWTH IS ONE THING. GROWTH ON STEROIDS IS IRRESPONSIBLE. OUR ROADS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC AT PEAK TIMES OF THE DAY RIGHT NOW. EVEN WITH CODED WHEN YOU

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YOU GO INTO THE HOME DEPOT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE IS COSTCO. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET IN THE TURN LIGHT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, YOU'RE STUCK IN A TWO LANE ROAD BEHIND YOU HOPING NO ONE REAR END YOU AS IT IS NOW. AND THAT ROAD WAS REBUILT. NOT THAT MANY YEARS AGO AND IT BE AWFUL EXPENSIVE TO REBUILD IT. UM. AFTER YOUR TEA, ADDING TIME TO TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON MAIN ARTERIES WHILE YOU CAN SIT AT WILLOUGHBY POMEROY, ETCETERA AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TO GET INTO A TURN LANE IS JUST RIDICULOUS. AND TO MAKE THINGS WORSE. YOU WANT TO BUILD A ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF COSTCO PROJECT CONNECTING CANDOR, TOE WILL BE BOULEVARD SO ALL THE TRACTOR AND TRAILERS CAN EXIT AFTER MAKING THEIR DELIVERIES ON THE WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD. BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT I HEARD EARLIER. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A FAVOR TO US WHO WERE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER LIGHT AND A WAY TO GET FROM WILLOUGHBY TO CANDOR. YOUR TIME'S UP, SIR. THAT'S THREE MINUTES. THAT WAS THREE MINUTES. OKAY LISA MILLER, PLEASE.

BOTTOM LINE. PUT IT OUT. SIR YOUR TIME IS UP. YEAH. LISA MILLER. NO, I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME THIS EVENING. THERE ARE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE. THEIR COMMENTS WILL ALL BE HEARD. WE WILL GO FOR THREE MINUTES AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON WILL COME UP. LISA MILLER. THAT'S ME. I HADN'T REALLY PLANNED AND TALKING, BUT I'M A MARTIN COUNTY NATIVE. MY HUSBAND IS MARTIN SECOND GENERATION MARTIN COUNTY NATIVE. I RAISED MY KIDS HERE. I'M NOT AGAINST CHANGE.

I'VE LIVED. I'VE LIVED HERE SINCE THE SEVENTIES. I'VE SEEN CHANGE. I USED MY MOM USED TO HAVE TO DRIVE ME DOWN TO THE PALM BEACH MALL TO GO SHOPPING FOR CLOTHES. YOU KNOW, THEN WE GOT HIM. ALSO THAT'S NICE. I MEAN, I DO LIKE CHANGE, HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE HORRIBLE. IF YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VISIT THIS COSTCO FROM PORT ST LUCIE YOU'RE WRONG. HAS ANYBODY BEEN OUT TO, UM. 7 14 AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THAT FOUR LANE ROAD TURNS INTO TWO AS YOU CROSS OVER THE TERM PIPE. THAT'S A NIGHTMARE. AND THAT IS THAT TRAFFIC. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME ON 95 ON THE TURNPIKE. THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THE COSTCO. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER LOCATION FOR THIS SOMETHING CLOSER, SOUTH COUNTY.

CLOSER TO 95 CLOSER TO A CLOSER TO A HIGHWAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME FROM ALL OVER AND THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE. I DON'T LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH, BUT LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME, SAID I'M AGAINST GROWTH ON STEROIDS. WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THIS COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT. IT USED TO BE SLOW GROWTH. UM IT'S YOU KNOW, AS A NATIVE FLORIDA AS A NATIVE MARTIN COUNTY PERSON. IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR NICE LITTLE BEAUTIFUL TOWN. WE, YOU KNOW, WE ENJOY A LOT OF THINGS HERE AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY FOR OUR KIDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINDA K. RICHARDS. HAVE A LOT TO SAY. BUT I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY OUTBREAK. I'M VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS. I'M GONNA LET MY BROTHER ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. BUT I WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING. OKAY MORE MEMBERS. I'M LINDA. KATE RICHARDS AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE CPU. D. WANT TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT ANTI COSTCO AND I'M NOT AGAINST PROPERTY RIGHTS. HOWEVER AS I DETAILED IN MY EMAIL TO YOU GUYS YESTERDAY, THE REQUEST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF WHY A P U. D IS USED FOR A ZONING TOOL. IN REFERENCE TO THE STORE. FLORIDA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SUCH SECTION 2.700 DESIGNATION OF PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE FOLLOWING. THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT PROVIDE A VARIETY OF NATURAL FEATURES AND SCENIC AREAS, IMPROVED AMENITIES AND DOES NOT PROTECT JASON EXISTING IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURES TO STAMPS RELATED TO THE CHARACTER, THE DEVELOPMENT CELLS AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WHICH IS PART THIS DEVELOPED IS NOT SUITABLE CHARACTER AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES. RESIDENTIAL USES COMPRISES 40% OF THE LAND, NOT 30% WHEN YOU TAKE OUT OPEN SPACE, NATURAL EDUCATION AND WETLANDS AS PER THE CODE THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH YOU. JASON COMMERCIAL USES THE TARGET COST CUSCO CUSTOMERS SMALL BUSINESSES IN HIGH INCOME HOUSEHOLDS OF THREE OR MORE PEOPLE. IN FACT, SMALL APARTMENT DWELLERS ARE FAR FROM COSTCO'S TARGET CUSTOMER.

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THIS IS NOT WHAT A P U. D IS ATTENDED. FOR. IT IS A 23 ACRE COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

ANY 14.7 ACRE RENTAL APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND IT'S BEING WRAPPED UP AS A CPU D TO SKIRT AROUND THEIR ZONING LAWS. THE RESIDENTIAL PERSONAL NOTE IS 27 UNITS BREAKER, NOT 8.1. YOU CANNOT USE THE WHOLE SITE. I CAN. IT'S IN CHAPTER 12, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT THAT SAYS YOU CAN ON LEE USE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AS YOUR FOR UNITS BREAKER. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 27 UNITS BREAKER ON THAT 14 ACRE SITES FOR THAT APARTMENT'S GONNA BE. NOT A PLAIN ONE. WHERE'S THE VARIANTS ON A FINAL NOTE ON GROWTH? THE CITY HAS OVER 2200 HOUSING UNITS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH OVER 600 REVIEW, INCLUDING THIS ONE, USING THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD OF 2.5 PERSONS HOUSEHOLDS PER YEAR. 7100 NEW RESIDENTS IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. CURRENT POPULATION 16,100. I'VE DONE THE MATH. THAT'S A 44% INCREASE. ADDITIONALLY ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE 2020 EVALUATION APPRAISAL REPORT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF STEWART AND TABLE 1-2 POPULATION PROJECTIONS, STATES THAT IN 2035. 2035 WILL HAVE A POPULATION OF 19,064. WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS APPROVED, OUR POPULATION IS GOING TO BE WELL OVER 23,000 IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THINK ABOUT THAT, BY 2026. WE WILL HAVE EXCEEDED OUR POPULATION PROTECTION OF 2035. 4000 SO YOU HAVE TO WONDER. CAN WE HANDLE THIS? MASSIVE GROWTH IN POPULATION CANNOT OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS HAND IT CAN OUR WATER SUPPLY HANDED RIVER HANDLE IT. CAN I ROSE? HAND IT RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A PARKING SPOT AT THE BEACH ON A WEEKEND. IN CLOSING THIS LAND WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE FUTURE USE. PERHAPS IT WAS DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY HOUSING. THAT IS WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. THE LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO BUILD THIS DEVELOPMENT AND IT IS NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PROFIT IN THE LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS POCKETS. THE LANDOWNERS WERE WELL AWARE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WHEN THEY PURCHASED THIS LAND. AND JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CHANGE JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT A MASSIVE BETWEEN YOUR TIME AS A HAPPY VERY OVER PAGING. EXCUSE ME. YOUR TIME IS UP. JERRY. CATCH LYNN, PLEASE SHUT THE DOOR. NO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. STOP SIR. EUROPE. WE? WE HAVE ONE. THANK YOU. LINDA. NICE BROKE OFF, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM. THE BASIC THING IS KINDA RECOVER MY TIME HERE. YES, SIR. WE WILL RESTART YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM A P U G IS NOT AS AN ALMOST ALL THEIR P UT HAS DONE FOR A REASON IS TO TAKE A PIECE OF LAND TO MAKE IT BETTER. ALONG WITH THAT THE CITY APPROVES.

IT'S VERY STRICT, ALL RIGHT ON THE REASON FOR IT IS JUST TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. IT IS NOT A MEANS OF AVOIDING NORMAL ZONING. THIS PROJECT IS TOTALLY A MEANS OF AVOIDING NORMAL ZONING.

REQUIRES COMPATIBILITY AMONG THE SITE. TYPICAL THINGS WOULD BE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SHE LIKE SOME OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND HERE. PUTTING 398 UNITS WITH A DESTINATION BIG BOX STORE. OKAY, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE. IT IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE USE YOUR OWN CODES SAY. COMPATIBILITY YOUR OWN COURAGE GOING ON FROM THERE. THERE'S SOMETHING I'M GOING THROUGH SOME MARRIAGE. RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS IN TWO PLACES THAT'S IN CHAPTER 12 OF THOSE ARE ENCOURAGED. IT'S ALSO IN THE LETTER. UM. THE CODE JOB TO 337-2017. THAT WAS THE BOARD MEETING THAT SAID THAT S AND P UT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY SHOVING CALCULATED ON THE NET RESIDENTIAL AREA, NOT THE TOTAL. SHE'S RIGHT. IT'S 27 UNITS PER ACRE. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS CORRECT. I'LL GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. RESIDENTIAL EVENTUALLY COMES OUT TO WHAT SHE SAID. 26 27 YEARS BREAKER. IT IS WRONG. IT'S JUST FLAT WRONG. IT'S JUST AGAINST YOUR OWN LAWS. HUH? UNIFIED CONTROL. WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING THIS MEETING. THE BASIC PREMISE OF A PD AT THE STATE REGULATION LEVEL AS A PERIOD HE HAS UNIFIED CONTROL THAT IS ONE PERSON, ONE ENTITY, THE SESSION RULES AND VERIFIES THAT EVERY PERSON ON THAT SIDE IS GOING. YOU DON'T HAVE IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN A LETTER AND ON A UNIFIED CONTROL? WHO'S IN CHARGE? IF NO ONE'S IN CHARGE, IT IS NOT A P UT. OKAY. IT IS ILLEGAL BY STATE LAW FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. LOOK AT THAT. IT'S REAL ISSUES RIGHT IN YOUR OWN COACH. BEAUTY FOR PLAYING IN DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES UNIFIED CONTROL. THOSE ARE SPECIFIC REJECTION ISSUES. CONGRESSIONAL EGRESS. THERE'S THREE ENDLESS IN THERE. TWO OF THEM HAVE DE SHELL LANES TO ENTER THE NORTHERN TO ENTRANCE OF DECELERATION LANES. LAVAGE CARS TO GET OFF OF CANTOR, SLOW DOWN. THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE DOES NOT HAVE A DECELERATION LANE. THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE IS WHERE THE BIG BOOK TRUCKS, THE MORE COLORS, THE TANKERS AND

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GENERALLY WE ALL KNOW THAT AND WE ALL CHEERED WHEN IT WAS DONE. OTHER ISSUES. REVIEWED THE N F P A COACH THAT'S NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION COACH. IF I WAS A FIRE MARSHAL, AND YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE YOU REJECTED BEFORE YOU APPROVE IT, IF A FAR MARSHALL LOOKED AT THAT SITE, HE WOULD GASP AND SAY HELL, NO, NOT ONLY NO, BUT HELL, NO. OKAY THAT DOES NOT MEET THE COACH. IT DOESN'T NEED TO TURN THE REGULARS. AND A MARGINALLY MARGINALLY MITCH. THE WHOLE LAYOUT. THINK OF THAT. LOOK AT IT. MOST THINGS HAVE DONE DEVELOPING PLAN FOR WE HAVE TO HAVE FALSE OR COMFORTS TURNING. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GO IN THE DOOR. BUT YOU'RE APPROACHING THAT 450 FT OF HOSE TURN OUT. THOSE BUILDINGS. IF THEY GO UP IN FLAMES WILL GO UP IN FLAMES TOTALLY BEFORE FIRE TRUCK AND GET YOU ALL RIGHT, AND THEY CAN'T TURN THE TURNING LANE. JOHN, RIGHT. ANDREW PARK CARDS SO HOST OR THAT SO IT IS A PERPETUAL FIRE DISASTER AND ANY FIRE MARSHAL THAT WOULD APPROVE THAT PLAN DOESN'T WORK BEING A FIRE MARSHAL. FINALLY I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BUT ONE THAT REALLY WEIRD THINGS OF DOING PLANTING THAT IDEA, AND I DO INDUSTRIAL SITES IS EVERY SITE PLAN THE CITIES AND COUNTIES YOUR CONCERN, NUMBER ONE WITH. DUMPSTERS THERE'S NOT A DUMPSTER PLAN ON THAT. THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT IN EXTRA CENTURY. THANK YOU, ROBERT SNYDER. RIGHT? MR ROBERT SNYDER. GOOD EVENING, KITTY. LPGA MEMBERS. MY NAME'S ROBERT SNYDER AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LATE STREET NURSERY. YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE DOOR OVER TONIGHT IN THE NURSERY DIDN'T MEET WITH HIM BECAUSE WE HAVE A. BUSINESS INTEREST TO PROTECT. WE ALSO HIRED OUR OWN HYDROLOGISTS, AND WE'VE SOUGHT LEGAL COUNSEL.

WOULD HAVE BEEN SHORTSIGHTED OF US AS A BUSINESS NOT TO DO THESE THINGS. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT AT NO TIME DID WE EVER TELL THE DEVELOPER OR LEAD THE DEVELOPER TO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS PROJECT? IN FACT, WE DID THE OPPOSITE. MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE WOULD NOT. HIS OPPONENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE WERE AWARE THAT MEETINGS WITH THE DEVELOPER COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A QUOTE USED WERE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, PART OF THE PAT ON THE BACK. HAVE WE DONE? AT THE RISK OF THIS PROJECT BEING APPROVED WAS TOO THERE IS A GREAT BUSINESS NOT TO VOICE ITS CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHT LIGHT POLLUTION, WATER USAGE AND SIGNAGE. IS A SMALL BUSINESSES COMMUNITY. HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL AGREE UNBEARABLE TRAFFIC ON CANADA HIGHWAY POSE A RISK TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS BOTH WALKING AND DRIVING TO SCHOOL WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT MANY SMALL BUSINESSES AND STUART. MARTIN COUNTY, SUCH AS OPTOMETRY, BUTCHER SHOPS, JEWELRY STORES, MECHANICS, BAKERIES, LIQUOR STORES, GROCERY STORES AND MORE. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT ON THE LAND AND WE'RE NOT ANTI COSTCO. WE ARE OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ZONING.

THIS LAND WAS DESIGNATED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. BUT HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS IN A MASSIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PLACE IS WRONG. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DORIS TO PINO, PLEASE. I'VE LIVED IN STUART FOR 34 YEARS. I FEEL LIKE CUSCO WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET FOR US. FOR ME. PERSONALLY WE GO TO SAM'S CLUB UP IN PORT ST LUCIE. EVERY WEEK. OTHER WEEK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT I WOULD GO TO COSTCO, BUT IT'S TOO FAR AWAY. I'M IN FAVOR OF CASCO. THEIR WAGES ARE VERY GOOD. I KNOW A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE. ONE LOOK, WORKS AND CASCO IN ARIZONA ONE WORKS IN PALM BEACH. AND THEY RAVE ABOUT PASCOE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT. COME HERE. WE HAVE A WALMART SUPERSTAR CENTER AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S WELCOME, CARRASCO. IT'S A THANK YOU, MRS ROBIN CARTWRIGHT, PLEASE.

EVENING IT'S A LONG WALK. I HOPE THAT DIDN'T START MY THREE MINUTES BACK THERE. NO, YOU CAN START YOUR THIRD BUSINESS. GOOD AFTERNOON. NO. YOUR JOB BEFORE YOU IS NOT EASY, BUT I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PARCELS OVER DEVELOPMENT IN IN CONGRUENCE WITH THE CITY'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS, THE DISCUSSION BEGINNING TONIGHT SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT COSTCO. NO ONE IS SAYING COSTCO IS THERE ISN'T A GOOD COMPANY. AND ABOUT SUPPOSING THIS PROJECT HAVE SAID COSTCO IS BAD, BUT THE LOCATION IS LIKE TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE. THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH OF A PUSH BY SO MANY THAT THE RUMOR IS THAT THIS

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IF THIS DEVELOPER TRULY WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING OF VALUE, THEY WOULDN'T BE SELECTIVELY ALLOWING FOR CALCULATIONS BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF A PROJECT WHEN CONVENIENT, LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING DENSITY, AS WE HEARD EARLIER AND USING THE TOTAL PARCEL VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. BUT IT'S TWO TRAFFIC STUDIES WHEN CONVENIENT, BUT IT'S ONE SUBMISSION IN ONE HUGE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. IT'S ONE OVER DEVELOPMENT OF A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS APPROVED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT'S A PARCEL THAT WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE WORD IS OUT THAT IT'S EASIER NOT JUST TO GET APPROVED, BUT TO GET MORE WHILE PROVIDING LESS. YOU SHOULD BE ASKING IF THIS PLAN AND ITS TOTALITY FITS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT VIOLATING AND IGNORING THE DEFINITION OF A C P UT FOR THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE STATE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION BY EITHER NOT MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD OR MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF NOTE THE CITY COMMISSION. THANK YOU. IT'S JENNIFER SNYDER. IN THE FIRST NIGHTER. SHE OUTSIDE? YES. OKAY, OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS JENNIFER SNYDER AND I LIVE AT 3001 SOUTH CANTOR HIGHWAY. PLEASE. I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU TO DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THIS WILL DO TO STUART. LOCATION. SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS IS THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. THE RIVER ESTUARY. EVACUATION ROUTES. THE AREA AS A WHOLE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE. ASK YOURSELF WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO GAIN. FROM A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE. NOTHING OF REAL VALUE. I ASSURE YOU. IS A DESTINATION SHOPPING CENTER AND AUTHORITY IMPACT APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE AND STUART? NO, AND ABSOLUTELY NOT. IT WILL CREATE MORE PROBLEMS FOR OUR CITY THAN BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS. I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS QUOTE BY KATE MCCALLISTER CONCERNING LEGACY COST SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HAVE CONSIDERED. EVERY TIME WE BUILD A NEW BIG BOX STORE AND ANOTHER SMALL BUSINESS CLOSES. WE LOSE A PIECE OF OUR COMMUNITY IDENTITY. WE LOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STORIES FOR ADVENTURES FOR CREATIVITY FOR ART FOR UNIQUENESS FOR NATURE FOR LEARNING AND FOR CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT. WE LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH FUTURE GENERATIONS. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL, SUSTAINABLE, VIBRANT, HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITY LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR TOM LLOYD. TOM LLOYD. THANKS FOR HEARING THIS AND THANKS FOR REPRESENTING US. YEAH. I JUST CAME UP TO SAY THAT COSTCO BEEN A MEMBER SINCE 1991. I HAVE ULTIMATE RESPECT FOR THEM, AND I THINK THEY'RE GREAT ORGANS NATION. I THINK THAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO AND I. GOD, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN SO ELOQUENT IN THEIR STUDIES AND PRESENTATIONS AS TO WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WE'VE DONE COSTCO A DISSERVICE BY ALLOWING THEM TO GO TO ALL THE EXPENSE AND TROUBLE. DO THE EVALUATION OF THIS SITE. THIS IS THE WRONG SITE. WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF SITES, THE WAL MART OUT THERE WHERE THERE'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IS THE RIGHT SITE. MAYBE PORT ST LUCIE, WHERE THOSE BIG BOX STORES ARE ARE THE RIGHT SITE. THIS IS THE WRONG SITE. NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CANADA. NOBODY'S MENTIONED THEM. BUDDY'S ADDRESS THEM. BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT'S NEGATIVELY AFFECTED

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HELLO. MY NAME IS LYDIA SNYDER AND MY FAMILY OWNS THE LIGHT. YOU TREANOR SHIRAN CANTOR HIGHWAY. I'VE GROWN UP IN THE SAME HOUSE MY WHOLE LIFE, BUT RECENTLY I HAVEN'T GROWN UP IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT ARE SMALL, SIMPLE TOWN IS CHANGING SO QUICKLY.

REMEMBER WHEN I WAS LITTLE I WOULD RUN AROUND THE WOODS THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DEVELOPING. HALF OF THOSE MEMORABLE TRAILS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED WITH THE CLEVELAND CLINIC. I'M NOT COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT A PERFECT WORLD AND IT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN EVENTUALLY. WHEN IT DOES, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED WITH THE COMMUNITY IN MIND. THEY SAY, MY GENERATION IS DOOMED THAT WE'RE ADDICTED TO THE INTERNET. BUT THESE WERE THE SAME ONES THAT ARE TAKING AWAY THE ADVENTURE.

THE NEXT GENERATION WILL HAVE NO TREES TO CLIMB. NO RIVER TO WAIT. BORDEN. NO SPACE TO RUN AND PLAY. IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE'S GOING TO BE AN 18 PUMP GAS STATION AND A MASSIVE PARKING LOT. GAS AND OIL WILL COAT THE GROUND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR RIVER WHILE WAS BAD ENOUGH AND IF WE WANT OUR RIVER TO EVER RECOVER FROM THE LAKE OKEECHOBEE DUMB THINGS. WE NEED TO THINK AHEAD AND NOT IMPLEMENT EVEN MORE TOXINS INTO OUR WATERWAYS. WE CANNOT KEEP PUSHING TOWARDS BECOMING WEST PALM AND MIAMI. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT, AND THE LOCALS WOULD BE HAPPY TO MOVE YOU DOWN THERE. THIS IS A TOWN FOR TRUE FLORIDIANS THAT WANT TO KEEP LIFE THE WAY IT WAS CREATED. WE DO NOT NEED THE REVENUE. WE DO NOT NEED THE JOBS AND WE DO DEF DEFINITELY DO NOT NEED THE TRAFFIC. DID ANYONE CONSIDER THE KIDS WHO WALKED TO SCHOOL OR THE ONES THAT TAKE CANTOR TO WORK? IT IS GOING TO TURN CANTER IN THE 95 AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY, THE ONLY ESCAPE FROM THAT MESS WOULD BE TO BE TO BE TO TAKE WILLOUGHBY. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT INTO THE MESAS WELL, STEWART IS THE TOWN TO RETIRE IN THE TOWN TO RAISE A FAMILY, THE TOWN TO CARRY GENERATIONS AND PASSED DOWN SMALL BUSINESSES. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, DON'T YOU THINK? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP LOOKING AT THE WORLD THROUGH DOLLAR SIGNS? IS IT WORTH DESTROYING OUR COMMUNITY? PLEASE TAKE THIS ELSEWHERE BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT YOUR COSTCO. WE DO NOT WANT YOUR HIGH RISE HOUSING COMPLEX AND WE SURE AS HECK DO NOT WANT THE MONEY HERE. THANK YOU. MISS NECK, NANCY BATES. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE BOARD AND FOR LISTENING TO US. MY NAME IS NANCY BATES. I RESIDED 195 CABANA POINT CIRCLE. ONE CAME TO OUR LITTLE 47 HOUSES AND TALK TO US. I AM NOT AGAINST COSTCO. I DO NOT DRIVE TO PORT ST LUCIE, TOO BIG BOX STORES. I USE LOCAL RETAILERS AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY CAN. I WAS BORN IN SOUTH FLORIDA. MY MOTHER WAS BORN IN SOUTH FLORIDA. MY UNCLE HAS LIVED HERE SINCE 1958. REMEMBER COMING HERE IS A SMALL CHILD. I DON'T LIKE SEEING THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED HERE. I KNOW.

CHANGES HAPPEN IN TOWNS, BUT I HAVE STRONGLY AGREE WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ME AND HOW WELL THEY HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK WITH THE NUMBERS, ETCETERA. WONDER SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS WHERE'S THE GARBAGE GOING TO GO? WHAT ABOUT LANDFILLS NEED MORE AND MORE THAT WE'RE DOING TO THIS WONDERFUL LITTLE TOWN THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR SO MANY YEARS. I AGREE ABOUT THE STUDENTS THAT WALK ALONG CANTOR HIGHWAY. I PASSED THEM IN THE MORNINGS.

I'M IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT I'VE WITNESSED CONSTANTLY AND HAD TO CALL 911 FOR THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN HAPPENED. CAR POLLUTION, THE LIGHT POLLUTION, THE NOISE POLLUTION, THE RUINING OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. I JUST DON'T BACK IT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU, CARY SEES PLEASE. HARRY SEES, SHE ANSWERED. IS CARY SEES HERE. OKAY? KELLY MIDDLETON. YOU CARRY YOUR KELLY? I'M KILLING, OKAY. WHO ARE YOU? EXCUSE. MR. MY NAME IS KELLY MIDDLETON AND I HAVE BEEN A MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT AND TEACHER SINCE 1993. I AM A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE STOP COSTCO AT 7 14 AND HIGH MEADOWS GROUP. SPENT THREE YEARS OF MY LIFE GOING TO EVERY LP A MEETING. EVERY COUNTY

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IRONICALLY ENOUGH, WE'RE HERE AGAIN DOING THIS AGAIN. IT'S GROUND HOG DAY. SO WHEN CAN WE HAVE CHOSE THIS SITE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL THAT IS FULL OF INEXPERIENCED DRIVERS TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING, EARLY MORNING HOURS, RIGHT WHEN COSTCO'S 25 SEMI TRUCKS AND OTHER VENDOR VENDORS, SEMI TRUCKS WILL BE DROPPING OFF THEIR PRODUCTS AND THEN HEADING BACK OUT ONTO CANADA HIGHWAY. RIGHT INTO THE PATH OF OUR TEENAGE DRIVERS. THEY HAVE CHOSEN SITE THAT IS ON A HURRICANE EVACUATION ROUTE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE CARS LINING COMING OUT OF CANADA AND BLOCKING VERY BUSY INTERSECTION. THEY TOLD US THE HI MEADOWS SITE WOULD ONLY HAVE 3500 VISITORS A DAY, MAINLY PALM CITY RESIDENTS, YET THEIR PLANS HEAD OVER 7000 PARKING SPOTS. OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE TELLING STORIES, I SUGGEST YOU COUNT THE PARKING SPOTS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED. ENTIRE PROJECT HAS ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD. NOT ONLY BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE GROUND HOG DAY, SAME ISSUES, SAME COMPANY, BUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS OUTLANDISH OVER 300 APARTMENTS ARE THESE HOMES FOR COSTCO EMPLOYEES RIGHT NEXT TO A COSTCO IS USUALLY NOT A SELLING FEATURE. CLOSE TO THE CLOTHES.

WALK TO THE BEACH. YES NEAR PARK. YES, BUT RIGHT NEXT TO COSTCO NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE AND IN 18 PUMP GAS STATION RIGHT NEXT TO AN £18 BALL ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN 18 PUMP SPEEDWAY DOWN THE STREET FROM AN 18 PUMP RACETRACK. REALLY? HOW MANY GAS STATIONS DO WE NEED IN ONE BLOCK AREA? IRISH COSTCO AGAIN TO GO OUT TO US ONE. I URGE THIS L P A TO START LOOKING AROUND AT THE OUT OF CONTROL DEVELOPMENT IN MARTIN COUNTY AND STOP THINKING ABOUT THE TAX REVENUES AND START FOCUSING ON WHAT WE ENVISIONED MARTIN COUNTY TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT IT IS HEADING. THANK YOU, BRIAN D VENTURA.

BY EVENING. THEY JUST WANT TO SAY. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SOMEWHERE IN THE LAND, COMPREHENSIVE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN. THERE'S JUST THERE'S A POLICY THAT SAYS NO NEW DEVELOPMENT SHALL OCCUR INSIDE OF WETLANDS. YEAH. UM THIS PROJECT IS IMPACTING. 4.5 ACRES OF WEAPONS, DESTROYING THEM GONE. IT'S BASED ON THAT'S BEING BASED ON A POLICY DELTA.

IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SAYS WE'VE SUPPORT MITIGATION SO. WE HAVE HERE IS A QUAGMIRE IS ORIGINALLY THE CITY OF STUART HAD HAD VALUED WETLANDS. TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY SAID NO NEW DEVELOPMENT, SHALLOW CURVES. HOWEVER. DEVELOPER HAS A BIG ENOUGH CHECKBOOK.

GOODBYE. MITIGATION CREDITS AND IMPACT AS WELL. HIS FILM AND FOUR WE COMPLETELY AND WE CAN'T DO IT DARN THING ABOUT IT. SO. ONCE AGAIN THE CHECKBOOK WINS. IF THE CITY OF STUART HAD ANY INTENTION. HAVE ABOUT TO THINK THAT WETLANDS HAD ANY VALUE FOR STEADY X. AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE ENVIRONMENT. WE WOULDN'T. BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM WHERE THE DEVELOPER JUST WRITES A CHECK FOR MITIGATION CREDITS. INSIDE AND SELL FOR WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT APPROVES THE PERMIT. HERE WE GO. WE LOSE WETLANDS. SOME MITIGATION BANK ITS CREDIT. THERE YOU GO. TRY TO SAVE HER WEAPONS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. IT CAN'T BE DONE. THANK YOU. I SAID THE PARAGRAPH IN THE ORDINANCE. COMPARED IT TO THE SELF FOR WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. SUCH WILL PERMIT. GRAFTED DISCUSSES THIS. AND THAT PARAGRAPH IS NOT CONSISTENT. WITH THE. WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT PERMIT, SAID. AS FOR DISTRICT PERMITS, SAID THE ISOLATED SMALL, ISOLATED WETLANDS AMOUNTS TO 1.5 ACRES. WHEREAS. AND THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA

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THANK YOU, MISS SHARON STORMS AND NEXT WILL BE MR MARSH MICHELE RILEY. SHARON STORMS AND THEN MICHELLE RILEY.

SHARON STORMS AND MICHELLE RILEY. YEAH. NO TAKE SHOES. GREAT FANTASTIC WITH THE LINE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MICHELLE RILEY. I'M GENERAL MANAGER OF WILL BE GOLF CLUB 375 SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF INDIAN STREET OFF OF WILL BE BOULEVARD. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY FOR HERITAGE COVE 302 APARTMENTS ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE WILL BE BOULEVARD AND WILL BE GLENN, ANOTHER 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO TOTAL OF ABOUT 800 UNITS, MANY OF WHICH ARE TWO OR THREE PERSON UNITS. WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON. OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS ACTUALLY CHOSEN NOT TO TAKE A POSITION ON COSTCO. SO ISN'T THAT REFRESHING FOR ALL OF YOU THIS EVENING? WE DO HAVE ONE THING THAT WE CAN AGREE ON, AND WE DO HAVE SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS. ALL OF THOSE UNITS AND TORONTO WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD IN ONE LOCATION IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM ONE ANOTHER. YOU CAN SEE IT PRETTY CLEARLY IF YOU PULL A PAWN OF THE EARLIER SLIDES. THE SPEED LIMIT. I WILL BE BOULEVARD IS 45. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, NICE, LONG, CURVY ROAD, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE DOING 55 EASY. SO WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY PULLING OUT ON THE WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD. MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE. DON'T TELL YOU DON'T TELL THEM I SAID THIS. THEY'RE OLDER. UM SO THAT IS THAT THAT IS OUR PRIMARY CONCERN WITH WITH THE ADDITION OF COSTCO, WE DO THINK THE TRAFFIC AND COUNTER WILL CAUSE SOME PEOPLE TO BUMP AND RUN ON THE PARALLEL ROAD. WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT, MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN OUT OF WILLOUGHBY IS JUST ABOUT IMPOSSIBLE, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING. SO THAT WOULD BE ON OUR SHORT WISH LISTS. WE THINK WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. WE THINK YOU CAN MITIGATE THEM FOR US S O. I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR RAINES.

SO, SO WE ARE IN CONVERSATION, BUT THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. IT WOULD GIVE US A DEGREE OF COMFORT. SHOULD THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS KIMBERLY EVER MEN AND MISS HELEN MCBRIDE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING L P A MEMBERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. I'M KIMBERLY EVER MEN ON THE CAPITOL PLANET WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOICES HEARD ON THIS PROJECT. BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS ARE ARE SAFE AND CAN ACCESS THE SCHOOL ALONG THE ROUTE BECAUSE COSTCO WILL BE OUR NEIGHBOR, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. ALL OF ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS ON CAMERA AND WILL APPEAR LOOKED AT, SO WE HAVE A FEW REQUESTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE GET ENTERED INTO THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE. AND FIRST ONE IS. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE A CANST CROSSING SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTIONS FOR STUDENTS. WALKER'S BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE WALKERS WERE GONNA HAVE BIKE WRITERS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENHANCED CROSSING SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTIONS FOR THOSE AND ALSO A POTENTIAL BUS STOP. TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT AND WE WE'VE GOT TWO LOCATIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS POSSIBLE BUST UP ON RIGHT ON CANDOR, BUT ALSO WE WANT TO LOOK WHICH IS OUR ANOTHER FEATURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE IS TO LOOK AT. A BUS STOP NEAR THE ROUNDABOUT LOCATED AT THE CENTER. SO ARE OUR BUS IS WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT ROUNDABOUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH FROM CANADA, WILLOUGHBY, OR VICE VERSA. SO I KNOW THAT. THE FOLKS ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE. AND THEN THE LAST. WELL, I'VE GOT TWO OTHERS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT EACH OF THE

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JUST ASK REAL QUICK. HAVE THEY MET WITH YOU HAVE HAS THE DEVELOPER MET WITH THE SCHOOLS? NO. OKAY? THANK YOU, MISS HELEN MCBRIDE. HELL MCBRIDE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY STUART FOR 48 YEARS. HAVE SAYING, LIKE A LOT OF YOU UP THERE. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BROOKE. I'M ALL FOR CASTRO AND PEOPLE LIKE DOCTOR. WE'RE ALL ACROSS CUP. HADN'T SEEN THIS PAM BEFORE. THIS IS MY FIRST UM. ONE THING AND I KNOW I'M TALKING TO FRIENDS UP THERE THAT AGREE WITH RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART GREEN SPACE. IF YOU LOOK AT CASTRO'S.

THERE'S NO TREES ON THAT MAP DRAWING THERE. THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE, THEY SAID. THAT'S 20% LESS SPACE. THAT'S ONE THING WE THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF STORY AND I KNOW OUR COMMISSIONERS PUSH THOSE. IF YOU KNOW ME, I GO TO EVERY CITY COMMISSIONER MEETING. WE WANT TREES, AND THERE'S NO REASON THEY CAN'T HAVE TREES IN THAT PARKING LOT. SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT.

MAKE WITH THE SCHOOL, BUT I AGREE WITH THE WOMAN THAT JUST SPOKE TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM. THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN. BOTH OF MY CHILDREN WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IS FAR IS TRAFFIC. WHEN I MOVED HERE, I CAN REMEMBER JOHN WAS JOHN AND THEY WERE YOUNGER. BUT WHEN THERE WERE SEVEN AND 10 WEEKS TO RIDE OUR BIKES OVER TO THE BEACH IN THE ROAD. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC, BUT THERE'S GROWTH. I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE I MOVED HERE, BOB AND I MOVED DURATION THERE WITH THE CHILDREN. YOU CAN'T PUT UP A WAR. YOU HAVE TO HAVE GROW THREE BECOME STAGNANT. IT HAS TO BE PROPER GROUP, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BLOODY SPORT TO MAKE SURE YOU LISTEN TO US. THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY IS STUART AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE FEEL. AND ONE THING I KNOW WE FEEL GREEN. WE LOVE GREEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CARRY SEES OR SHANNON STORMS. HAS NOT HERE TO SPEAK SINCE THEY PUT IN A REQUEST. ARE THEY OUTSIDE? OKAY. CAN I JUST ADD ONE MORE COMMENT? YES. THE SCHOOL? YES, YOU CAN. I DID NOT MEET DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER BRIGID. WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO MR RAINES AND FROM DOUG? THEY DID REACH OUT TO ME TO LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE SITE PLAN, AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT TO CONCURRENCY. BUT THE DEVELOPER DIRECTLY, SO JUST A SLIGHT CONVERSATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL COME BACK AT SEVEN OR EXCUSE ME, 6 54 BOARD COMMENT. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO THAT AS SOO RIGHT? OH, ABSOLUTELY, UH, THE WHOLE THING OR JUST OKAY? BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE NEXT PHASE. WE DO NEED TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS VI ASSUMED THIS EVENING. IS THAT A NO? ALL RIGHT, AND THEY DON'T THEY? THERE'S NONE LIKE TYPED IN THE CHATTER ANYTHING. OKAY? OH, MY GOD. MM. BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT COMETS HAVE BEEN SHARED VIA ZOOM. DO THEY GET READ TO US? HOW DO HOW DO WE SHARE THOSE NORMALLY ON? OH, THEY'LL SPEAK. OKAY, GREAT. FOR ANYBODY ON ZOOM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT. ANYBODY. OH, GOOD. CAN YOU SHARE HER NAME ONE MORE TIME.

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THE TIME'S RUNNING, AND, UH, MS SNYDER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE ON YOUR MICROPHONE. IF SHE'S HAVING TECHNICAL DID DIFFICULTY WANTS TO TYPE SOMETHING IN THE CHAT. WE COULD ALSO DO THAT. WHAT SURE. SEE IF YOU PUT THAT UP TO THAT. MICROPHONE. IF THAT WORKS, GO AHEAD AND SEE IF IT WORKS. DOES IT WORK? IT DOES ACTUALLY. THANK YOU. VALIANT OUT. SHE NEEDS TO TURN HER VALIUM DOWN ON HER COMPUTER AND YOUR VOLUME DOWN ON YOUR COMPUTER. MOM JUST TALKED TO THE BONE. THIS IS TECHNOLOGY AT ITS FINEST. YEAH, TECHNOLOGY.

OKAY. HOUSE NOT WORKING. IS THAT THAT'S GOOD GO, MOM. OKAY, I'M CAROL IAN SNYDER AND I HAVE THE MOTHER OF THE DECAY AND ROBBERY AND THAT IS MY GRANDDAUGHTER. ALL RIGHT, VERY PROUD. THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH, SAY, FEELS SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND WE DON'T THINK IT OUGHT TO GO THROUGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WILL NOW CLOSE. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE EVENING. OH YOU DO HAVE ONE MORE. OKAY? WE WILL OPEN IT BACK UP FOR ONE MORE. MM. OKAY M M. PLEASE GO FORWARD WITH YOUR COMMENT. NO, I DON'T. DON'T DON'T HAVE A GUN. I WAS TRYING TO CHAT LEFT. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE I'M DO. BUT HERE, THE FIRST SPEAKER RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, OKAY, WAS ONLY THE VIBE BODY AND SEPARATE HERE, OKAY? WONDERFUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO WE HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT VIA ZOOM. OKAY. WE WILL NOW CLOSE. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE EVENING, MR RAINES, YOU MAY SPEAK AGAIN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS. YES. THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, BOB BRAINS BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND CORRECTIONS. I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED THE PALM ON THE LIBERTY TREE NURSERY AND YOU KNOW WE WOULD DRAIN THAT DOWN.

WE HAD IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH UH, LEECHES. WE ACTUALLY BOTH MEETINGS. THEY RAISED THAT CONCERN IN QUESTION AND WE TOOK. WE CAME BACK AND WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND TOLD HIM HOW WE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THEY HAD A HYDROLOGIST. AVAILABLE.

ALSO AT THAT MEETING WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, SO. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD. THAT WASN'T OUR RADAR. IT WASN'T CONCERNED THAT THE LEECHES RAISED AND WE BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT CONCERN. THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM AND THEY'RE THEY'RE HYDROLOGIST. THE OTHER THING. I JUST ALSO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS WE WAY NEVER REPRESENTED, NOR DID WE EVER BELIEVED WE WERE GOING TO GET THE LEECH. PRE NURSERY PEOPLE TO APPROVE OUR PROJECT. WE UNDERSTOOD BASICALLY RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING WHERE WE STOOD WITH THEM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE STILL DID LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. AND WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THEIR LEGITIMATE CONCERNS NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT. WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET IT BECAUSE JOE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR. WE STILL WANT TO TRY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T WANT US FOR A NEIGHBOR. WE'RE GOING TO TRY THE BEST WE CAN. SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WE WENT THROUGH THERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE INDICATED. HEARD MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THIS WAS DESIGNATED FOR LOW DENSITY, FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MARTIN ARE THE EXCUSE ME, THE CITY OF STUART FUTURE LAND, USE MATH AND HIS OWN AND YOU WILL FIND AND I'M SURE STAFF CAN CONFIRM THERE IS NO. DESIGNATION LAND USE OR ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. SO WHERE THE CONCEPT CAME THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LOW DENSITY OR THAT'S WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WHEN IT WAS AN ACCIDENT TO THE CITY.

IT WAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WOULD COME FORWARD WITH THE LANDES AND THE ZONING. THAT POINT IN TIME, AND IT WOULD BE A P UT. THE COMMENT THAT WE THINK THIS IS A DONE DEAL WITH

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BENEFIT TO THE CITY. AND SO I JUST RAISED THAT POINT SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. THAT AH THINGS DO STILL HAPPEN. WITH RESPECT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BAD, MR. EVERYONE CAME BACK UP. WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS. I THINK WE MAY BE INNOCENT. ONE SITE PLAN OVER NOW. THAT'S BEEN EVOLVING AND STUFF, BUT WE CERTAINLY. WILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND GET WITH THEM ON THE REQUEST THAT THEY HAD, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH HER IN THE PAST. I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. SO I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. SHE. ONLY BEAT ME TO THAT, SO I DONNY OTHER COH RESPECT TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DISCLOSE AS IF THERE ARE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. THE DEVELOPER DID PRESENT THE PROJECT TO ME AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT I WOULD HAVE KNOWLEDGE TO HELP MANAGE THIS MEETING, BUT I GAVE HIM NO. YES OR NO OR ANYTHING, IT WAS PURELY INFORMATIONAL WAS ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD BRIEFED AHEAD OF TIME. WAS.

WAS. I TALK. TOMO MR RAINES. NEVER MONTHS AGO BEFORE WE GOT ANY PACKAGES. I WAS DEALING WITH HIM ON ANOTHER PROJECT AND. SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PACKAGES. SO MY CONCERN BASICALLY A MERELY ASKING WHAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THE. PEOPLE IN THE RIVER PARK ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC ON. I TOLD HIM THAT I'D SEE HIM HERE IN THE MEETING AND I'D GO OVER WHATEVER ELSE I HAD HERE WITH PUBLIC. OKAY? THINK I PRAYED FRONT. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT NOW. WE WILL MOVE INTO THE BOARD COMMENT. PORTION OF THE EVENING. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HAVE ADDRESSED, UM, NUMBER ONE. SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE FIRE MARSHAL PIECE. IS THAT PART OF YOUR PACKAGE? FORGIVE ME IF I HAVEN'T REVIEWED IT CLOSE ENOUGH. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? AN ASSESSMENT AT SPEAKING TO THE FIRE SAFETY PEACE. YES, THAT'S BEEN PART OF ADDRESSED IS PART OF OUR APPLICATION PROCESS, OKAY, AND EVERYTHING WAS MET THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED. YES, WAY DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT CAME BACK FROM THE FIRE THAT WE DID ADDRESS AND THAT'S ON. THERE'S A REFLECTED ON OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN. OKAY, SO WE DID MEET WITH HIM. OKAY REGARDING THE, UM. UNITS PER ACRE OF THE DENSITY ISSUE. SOMEBODY MORE THAN ONE HAS BROUGHT UP. SHOULD THAT BE CALCULATED PROJECT WIDE, OR SHOULD IT BE CALCULATED FOR ON LEE? THE AREA THAT IS THE ACTUAL APARTMENT AND WILL BE RESIDENTIAL. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US WHAT THE CITY YOU KNOW? RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE RECORD REGARDING THAT. SO IN THIS RESPECT, WE'D REFER TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PARTICULAR POLICY IN ELEMENT ONE A SEVEN, WHICH IS THE TABLE OFF GROSS DENSITIES. WHICH ARE APPLIED TO FUTURE LAND USES. IN THIS CASE, THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT THING APPLICANT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SPECIAL DISTRICT NEIGHBOR DISTRICT.

WHICH ALLOWS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 15 GROSS. SO WHEN WE CALCULATE THAT. IT'S BASED ON THE WHOLE SITE TO GROSS AREA OF THE SITE, NOT WITHSTANDING THE USES ON THAT SITE. SO IN THIS RESPECT, WE USE THE 40. 8.99 ACRES ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND IT EQUATES TO 8.1 UNIT PER

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THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SCHOOL ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATORS ON THERE. I KNOW, MR COCO, I BELIEVE WAS HIS NAME WAS ON THERE. HE ALSO HE BROUGHT UP SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS TO WE.

SO WE HEARD. WE ALSO HAVE ALREADY HEARD SOME OF THAT FROM THEM. IT JUST ARE. MEETING WITH SOME OF THE COMMUNITY LEADERS. OKAY BUT I WOULD LIKE AN ASSURANCE FROM YOU GUYS THAT YOU WILL TAKE AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD LIKE, WHEN WITH REGARDS TO SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR STUDENTS. WELL, I THINK WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO TAKE THAT IN THE PAST. OKAY, FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT, AND I MAY HAVE SOME MORE AS WE GO ALONG, BUT I WILL OPEN IT NOW TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT. OKAY, I'LL GO. UM. CAN CAN YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER COME UP AND JUST TALK A LITTLE. IN LAYMAN'S TERMS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. ABOUT THE ACTUAL IMPACTS AND WHAT THE CONNECTOR DOES TO THE SITE. WHAT TRAFFIC'S GONNA LOOK LIKE PEAK HOURS. AND I'VE I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT. HOW TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE CALCULATED. AND DO THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED OR APPROVED, BUT NOT. COMPLETED OR THEY TAKE ACTUAL TRAFFIC COUNTS. SO KIND OF ALL THAT IF YOU COULD, OKAY, ALL OF THAT. SUSAN O'ROURKE FOR THE RECORD TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH O'ROURKE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING. SO, YES, FOR THIS STUDY. WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS SITE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PLACES IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED. HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE FDA. OT IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED FOR LAND USE AND HAS TO BE REVIEWED FOR THE SPECIFIC SITE PLAN. SO THERE'S WE'RE TASKED WITH. ADDRESSING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE NEXT TO A SCHOOL AND THE ISSUES WITH PEDESTRIANS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND OUR ON SITE CIRCULATION. WE ACTUALLY DO GO OUT AND COUNT THE CARS. THE COUNTY COUNTS. ROADWAY SEGMENTS AND THE D O T COUNTS THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS WE COUNT THE INTERSECTIONS. AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT TRAFFIC AND YOU ADD IN A GROWTH AND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA. WE HAPPEN TO BE ALONG A CORRIDOR THAT HAS A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE HAPPEN TO WORK ON A NUMBER OF THOSE. WE COMPILE ALL THAT TRAFFIC TOGETHER, ALONG WITH THE BACKGROUND GROWTH AND TRAFFIC FOR PROJECTS WERE NOT AWARE OTHER THAT COULD COME ON AND COMING YEARS WE LOOK AT. FORECAST OUT FOR THE LONG RANGE PLAN. THAT'S YOU KNOW, OUT INTO THE 2045 FOR THE LOCAL SITE PLANNING, IT'S FOR FIVE YEARS. THE D O T. WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT. ASSESSMENT FOR THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC USE, WHERE THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL THE RETAIL THEY WANT TO LOOK AT. IN FACT, WAS THE D O T, WHO REALLY ENCOURAGED US. WE HAD KIND OF A DRIVEWAY THROUGH THE SITE ORIGINALLY. THE RESIDENTIAL. THERE WERE SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHO COULD GO WHERE, AND THEY REALLY WANTED A MORE FULLY INTEGRATED SITE. THAT WAS A BIG TASK FOR US, NOT JUST BECAUSE.

YOU KNOW THE SITE LAY ON THE RESTRICTIONS TO GET GET A ROAD. WE FELT THE ROAD HAD A LOT OF VALUE BECAUSE AS WE WEIGH ALL KNOW THAT THE INTERSECTIONS YOU KNOW, ARE ARE BUSY. CANNER AND MONTEREY AND CAMERON INDIAN ARE ARE BOTH VERY BUSY AND THEY ARE TIMED. WITH THE D O. T IN THE COUNTY. SO THE CYCLE LINKS AND ALL THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF THEIR SAID IT LIKE 161 180 SECONDS. THAT'S A LONG TIME IF YOU DON'T GET THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME, BUT THE CAPACITY ON THESE ROADS. THEY'RE BUILT WITH WITH OUR INVESTMENT TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF TRAFFIC ON CANTER HIGHWAY. IT'S 3000 AND 20 IN AN HOUR. WHERE ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT CURRENTLY, SO THERE'S AMPLE CAPACITY ON CANDOR HIGHWAY WE ALL KNOW MONTEREY'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STRUGGLE. WE THINK THAT THIS CONNECTION BETWEEN WILLOUGHBY AND CANDOR HIGHWAY. WAY IT'S DESIGNED. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FREEWAY THROUGH THERE. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE, BUT WE WANTED TO BE WHERE WE CAN KEEP OUR TRAFFIC OUT OF THE INTERSECTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE AN INTERCONNECTION. IT WON'T HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US IS NOT CONSTRUCTED YET, BUT WE WILL HAVE A CROSS ACCESS ALL THE WAY TO INDIAN STREET.

SO AS MICHELLE RIGHT, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS TO WILLOUGHBY. WE HAVE A LOT OF

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YOU KNOW, SAFE PATHS TO SCHOOL THAT THE HIGH VISIBILITY PAINTED SIGNS THE CROSSWALKS.

THEY'LL ALL BE INCORPORATED AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT IF WE ARE IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. COMING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAYS. ALL THE SIGN IS THAT WOULD APPEAR ON CAMERA. WILLOUGHBY WOULD ALSO BE ON THE DRIVEWAY, SO PEOPLE COMING OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ARE FULLY AWARE THAT THEY ARE ENTERING INTO A SCHOOL ZONE. AND THEN ALL THE CROSS WALKS WITH A LITTLE ARROWS POINTING DOWN. THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ASKED ABOUT THE FLASHING BEACONS. THEY ARE HAVE A REQUIREMENT WITH THE STATE SO WE WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO WHATEVER STATE REGULATIONS ARE IN THAT REGARD, BUT CERTAINLY AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ITSELF. THERE WILL BE LIGHTED CROSS WALK AND. YOU KNOW, PET FEATURES THERE, SO I THINK, DID I DO ALL OF THE PEACE ONE FOLLOW UP. IT APPEARS THERE'S A DIESEL LANE ON CANDOR INTO THIS PROPERTY. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. SO WE HAVE THREE DRIVEWAYS AND THE ISSUE. WITH THIS SOUTH DRIVEWAY. IS THERE A NUMBER OF VERY LARGE POWER POLES THAT MAKE IT COST PROHIBITIVE TO PUT ETERNALLY WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO ROUTE OUR TRUCKS BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT ABILITY, AND THEY COME AROUND FOUR IN THE MORNING, SO THEY WON'T BE THERE. THE SCHOOL TRIP, THEY'LL BE GONE BEFORE THE SCRIPT A LITTLE TRAFFIC. ARRIVES SO WE'VE GOT THEM ROUNDED TO COME IN THE MAIN DRIVEWAY AND COME UP IN AROUND. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE GAS PUMPS ARE YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD FUNCTION.

THEY WILL COME OUT THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY. SO THAT'S HOW THE CIRCULATION WILL BE. THE STATE ASKED US TO PUT A 70 FT RADIUS, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE RADIUS TO FACILITATE VEHICLES, TURNING QUICKLY INTO THAT AND NOT CAUSING A BACKUP. ONTO CANTOR HIGHWAY. OKAY, SO. THE SITE PLAN. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A DSL LINE. IS THAT NOT A D CELL LANE? THERE'S A D SELLING ON THE MIDDLE DRIVEWAY AND THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY BUT NOT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY. NORTH. ALL RIGHT. CAN I JUMP IN? YEAH, RIGHT. OKAY. UM. WHEN YOU GO ALONG WHEN THE TRUCKS I SUPPOSE THEY'RE COMING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE. AND THEY'RE COMING UP AND THEY'RE UNLOADING AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. LIKE HOW HOW IS THAT WHERE THE LOADING DOCKS HERE AND HMM. I'M GONNA LET DOUG OR. I BELIEVE WE HAVE IT. WE HAVE A WHOLE TRUCK WAY. HAVE A WHOLE SYRIZA OF TRUCK. TURNING TEMPLATE ARE GOOD FIGURES. DOUG BROOKE BANK WITH MG TO WORK, COSTCO'S ARCHITECT. AND I THINK THE QUESTION WAS JUST AROUND THE LOADING ON HOW THE TRUCKS WHERE THEY DO IT SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THE BUILDING. SO. WHERE I'M POINTING RIGHT NOW IS WHERE THE LOADING DOCK AREA IS OKAY TRUCK, AND THAT CIRCLE REPRESENTS A TURNING RADIUS SO THEY WOULD BE WITH THE YEAH. TAKE THEIR MOVEMENTS IN THAT CIRCLE BACK INTO THE BUILDING THERE AND THEN PULL STRAIGHT FORWARD AND LEAVE. SO ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE THEM LEAVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AGAIN? I LOVE THE DRESS. ALL OF THE DRIVEWAYS ARE DESIGN AND BECAUSE THE DELIVERIES AIR COMING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. WE HAVE ENSURED THAT WAS A TRUCK. ABILITY THROUGHOUT THE SITE, BUT THE INTENTION IS THEY EXIT BACK TO CANADA HIGHWAY, OKAY, SO NOT TO WILLOUGHBY. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS THE COMP ACTORS I SAW BACK THERE.

OKAY SO THE CONTRACTORS ARE GIANT TRASH COMPACTORS. IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE? RIGHT. SO ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH SHOULD BE I'M POINTING TO THE EAST. RIGHT HERE OR THERE WILL BE TWO OF THEM. AND THE GARBAGE IS COLLECTED INSIDE THE BUILDING. OKAY THEY PUSH IT THROUGH. AH SHOOT THAT FROM INSIDE INTO THESE. THESE ARE SELF CONTAINED. THESE ARE NOT TRADITIONAL DUMPSTERS, BUT THEIR SELF CONTAINED ARE ENCLOSED UNITS. AND THEN THE SAME THING LIKE WITH THE DELIVERY TRUCK. A TRUCK WILL PULL DOWN BACK IN. THERE'S TWO OF THEM SO THEY CAN GRAB ONE AT A TIME. THEY'LL GRAB ONE THAT'S FULL. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE THERE. AND THEN THEY'LL CAN'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND DROP ANOTHER ONE. SO THOSE DROPS

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SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THEY'RE GREAT QUESTION, UNLIKE SOME SORT OF CENTERS THAT WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE TENANTS. THIS IS ONE TENANT AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE WERE WHERE EVERYBODY GOES IN AND OUT OF THIS IS NOT A BUILDING THAT'S ACCESS FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, SO THERE'S ONE POINT OF ENTRY HERE. SO THE IDEA IS TO REALLY EQUALIZE THAT PARKING TO THAT FRONT DOOR.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO GRAB A GOOD PARKING SPACE, SO THE DESIGN IS ACTUALLY ENGINEERED THAT WAY TO CAPITALIZE ON EVERYBODY SORT OF GETTING, YOU KNOW AS GOOD A SPACE AS POSSIBLE SO WE REALLY DO AVOID. IN THE PARKING OVER THERE AS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING PAST THE LOADING DOCK AND ON SORT OF THOSE THAT MORE QUIET SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS IT'S NOT ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC. HOW OFTEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT PARKING LOT TO BE FULL LIKES TO CAPACITY? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT REGULARLY HAPPENED THAT THE COSTUMES WELL, I THINK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COULD PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT. OR DID THAT THOSE TRIPS? OBVIOUSLY PIQUED CHRISTMAS AND HOLIDAYS? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MORE FULL THAN OTHER TIMES? UM SO THAT MIGHT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TOO. I THINK THOSE WERE ALL MY TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A TRAFFIC QUESTION. AND SO YES, THERE SO IN LOOKING AT THE ROUNDABOUT. DISTANCE OFF THE ROUNDABOUT FROM KENNA HIGHWAY. WAS AN EVALUATION DONE TO DETERMINE. BECAUSE AROUND ABOUT THIS SO EARLY DOES IT CAUSE A BACKUP WHILE PEOPLE TRYING TO MANEUVER IT AROUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND WE HAVE EVALUATED THAT WITH THE D.

O. T. AND THAT'S WHY. THE FIRST ENTRANCES AS PULLED BACK. WE HAVE A MINIMUM WE EVALUATE. THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION AS WELL AS. TRAFFIC GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT NEITHER OF THEM WILL CONFLICT, BUT WE THINK THEY ROUNDABOUT IS IMPORTANT. IT SHOULD BE FREE FLOWING. WE'VE DESIGNED IT. SO WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN THE TEAM HAS DESIGNED IT. SO THAT IT IS FREE FLOWING BUT CONTROLLING AND WE DON'T CREATE CONFLICTS THAT WOULD CAUSE A BACK UP INTO THE INTERSECTION. YES SO I AND I LOVE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT IT. IF IT WAS FURTHER IN ON THE ROAD, SO THE TRAFFIC WILL HAVE MORE SPACE BEFORE THEY START TO MANEUVER JUST SO THAT MORE COULD GET OFF OF CANADA HIGHWAY SOONER. BECAUSE I NOTICED WHAT CONCERT DISTANCE WERE PRETTY PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE. 45 600 FT FROM THE. YEAH, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WITH PRIMARY PURPOSE ON THIS ROAD IS TO PROVIDE ACCESS WITHOUT HAVING A SERIOUS OF INTERSECTIONS THAT WOULD CAUSE BACKUPS. SO IT. WE WANT TO HAVE IT A LOCATION THAT'S FACILITATING AS MUCH OF THE PARKING IS POSSIBLE, SO, BUT WE HAVE. AND REGARD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S WHY IT IS IN THE LOCATION'S NOT IT'S NOT AT THE FIRST INTERSECTION. IT'S AT THE SECOND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU HAD STATED THAT THE CANTOR HIGHWAY IS CURRENTLY AT ONE THIRD OF THE POTENTIAL USAGE. BELIEVE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAID YES. SAY. LET ME JUST GIVE

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IT MIGHT BE LESS SO. THESE AIR THIS IS THE PEAK HOUR AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY. AND IT'S A CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. SEE. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE ANY, LIKE ESTIMATE THAT WHEN YOU ADD NOW, THE NEW TRAFFIC FROM THIS ISN'T GONNA. LIKE HOW MUCH WOULD THAT ONE THIRD GO UP SEEING THE ACTUAL NUMBER? JUST GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU? SO I DON'T. SO THAT SAME NUMBER IN THE FUTURE. IS, UM. GO UP. TO WE HAD SEVERAL 100, BUT THE GROWTH WE ARE AT. 84 11 11 40. SO. WAR WERE TOTAL. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE TOTAL. OKAY, WHAT IS IT NOW? RIGHT NOW.

IT'S 9 93. RIGHT? RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER? I HAVE. CONNECTIVITY QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT CAR RELATED. ARE THEY STILL DIRECTED TO YOU OR. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY ARE NOT CORRELATED. I'M NOT SURE OKAY? DID YOU LIKE? OK? YEAH. SO. HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. APOLOGIES BUT NOW'S THE TIME TO GET INTO THE WEEDS. OK S O. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY FOR EVERYBODY THAT THINKS THAT THIS IS A NO BRAINER IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER. I ENVY YOU. IT IS LIKE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A DONE DEAL IN MY HEAD. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY S OH, YEAH, I DO HAVE SOME SORT OF A BIGGER PICTURE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AND THEN I ALSO HAVE SOME VERY SMALL THINGS THAT I WANT TO GET THROUGH. SO. TRY TO GET I'VE TRIED TOE, DO IT BY CATEGORY. SO LET'S START WITH HOUSING. UM. I THINK WE COULD MAYBE START WITH. NOT HAVING A GATE. THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE COULD ALL AGREE ON THAT. WHILE THERE WAS A HOUSING HOUSING SHORTAGE IN THE CITY OF STUART, WE ARE IMPROVING OUR STOCKS. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF LUXURY APARTMENTS. THAT TO ME IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED MORE OF, SO I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE FIRST THING SHOULD BE TO GET RID OF THAT GATE. NUMBER TWO IS AFFORDABILITY. MY I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE UNINSPIRED, FOUR STORY APARTMENTS. LET'S AT LEAST SET 10% ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. DON'T NEED MORE LUXURY HOUSING. WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, I'M GATHERING THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. SO IF WE CAN'T AGREE TO THAT, CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE VARIED HOUSING STOCK? THIS COULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY COOL, INNOVATIVE PROJECTS COME BEFORE US IN REGARDS TO CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL.

MY OPINION. THIS DOES NOT CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD FIELD. BUT IF WE HAD A MIXED STOCK, MAYBE SOME SINGLE FAMILY COTTAGE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, CONDOS TOWNHOUSES THAT TO ME WHILE WE MIGHT NOT BE SOLVING THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE, AT LEAST WE ARE LIKE, ACTUALLY CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BECAUSE. IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL TO ME LIKE A VIABLE PLACE TO HAVE 400 LUXURY APARTMENTS ACROSS FROM A COSTCO. BUT ALSO I THINK, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IT DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER OF OUR TOWN. UM, SO CAN I JUMP IN THERE WITH YOU ON THAT I WAS IN? YES, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PEPPY FOR ME. ALSO AND WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVERYONE'S THINKING LOW QUALITY. WELL WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE BEST EDUCATION HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US HAVE SUCH CREATIVITY. IN OUR HOUSING THAT MY SON WHO WAS EDUCATED HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY WOULD WANT TO MOVE BACK HOME. MY SON WAS BORN IN MARTIN HOSPITAL WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL AND. WENT TO UNIVERSITY IN JACKSONVILLE. AND HE'S TELLING ME WHAT WOULD I COME BACK TO STUART FOR? SO GUYS AS WE. YOU KNOW, WE ARE POST COVE IT AND WE NEED TO

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THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE PASSED. AND INCLUSIVE HOUSING ORDINANCE THAT SAID IN THE EVENT THAT A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY WHERE TO MANDATE. INCLUSIVE HOUSING IS PARTISAN OF ADULT BUT CONDITION THAT THE MUNICIPALITY IS RESPONSIBLE. TWO. ESSENTIALLY COMPENSATE. FOR THE, UH, PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO FULLY OFFSET ALL COSTS TO THE DEVELOPER OF THE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION. SO IF WE SAY THAT, THEN THE CALCULATION WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE CITY TO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT. HOW MUCH LESS RENT THAT DEVELOPER IS GOING TO RECEIVE AND THEN PAY HIM FOR IT. LIKE THAT. USE ME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE UNDER NO. UNDER NO RESPONSIBILITY TO ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT'S ZONING. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THE EXTENSION SAYS THAT IF YOU CONDITIONAL EYES IT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BE INCENTIVE STATUTE APPLIES. I AGREE. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO MANDATE TO YOUR PROVE ANYTHING. I DON'T DISAGREE. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE'S KIND OF A DANCE THERE. THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE, SO I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO CONDITION ALLIES. ANYTHING WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE AN APPLICANT COME FORWARD WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN. OR AT LEAST BURIED HOUSING STOCK.

OKAY SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE IS THE HOUSING NUMBER TWO. IS THIS TREE MITIGATION SITUATION? SO I SEE THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR A $500,000 REDUCTION AND THE FEES BECAUSE OF. DRY RETENTION PONDS THAT YOU WILL BE PUTTING IN S O. A LOT OF QUESTIONS NUMBER ONE. I FEEL LIKE, UM, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS REQUIRING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DRY RETENTION PONDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, LET ME LET ME JUST BACK UP BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE. I KIND OF SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS. SO WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING AS PART OF OUR PLAN THAT WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO A TREE MEDICATION THROUGH THAT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN THERE RIGHT NOW. THE CONDITIONS IN THE ORDERS WERE ONLY PROPOSING THAT. AS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR TREE MITIGATION THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AT THAT CONSTRUCTION LEVEL PLAYING WHERE IT MASTER SITE PLAN, SO THE ORDNANCE IS VERY CLEAR. IT SAYS. WE'RE PROPOSING. DO THAT, AND THEN SO AT THAT POINT TIME WILL DETERMINE WHETHER WE QUALIFY FOR THOSE. WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE NOT AT THAT LEVEL HERE, OKAY? ALL RIGHT, BUT BUT CURRENTLY YOUR PLAN FOR WATER MANAGEMENT IS DRY RETENTION PONDS, WHICH ARE SORT OF LIKE DEPRESSED GRASS, SWALES. YEAH.

EVEN I'M DAVID BAG WITH THE D. C IN PORT ST LUCIE. YOU'RE YOU'RE ON TRACK. IT'S A MICK.

WE'VE GOT A MIX OF WHAT ATTENTION, LAKES. WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE DRIVER ATTENTION. THE DISTRICT REAL CHOIR HAPPENED TO DR FREE TREATMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL AREAS. SO THE COMMERCIAL WHAT? YOU DON'T SEE THERE ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE PLANE, THERE'S GONNA LIKELY BE EXPLORATION UNDERNEATH THAT. ALL MIXES OF STORM WATER. UM. TREATMENT TYPES THAT WE'VE PRIORITIZED TO GET HIGH LEVEL OF NATURE. OKAY. COOL UM, GREAT, SO THAT WELL, I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A GOOD STEP. THERE ARE MORE INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS LIKE RAIN GARDENS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD. ACTUALLY PUT MORE TREES BACK ON THE PROPERTY. I THINK MY GENERAL CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE ARE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE OLDEST AND CLOSEST. FOREST YOU KNOW, OLD FLORIDA FORESTS AND WETLANDS THAT WE HAVE, AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.

THAT CAN'T BE AN EASY THING THAT WE JUST SAY, WELL, WE LOST A BUNCH OF WETLANDS LIKE. WE NEED TO THEN REALLY MAKE UP FOR THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT MEANS YOU KNOW, EITHER FINDING A WAY TO GET MORE NATIVE TREES ON THIS PROPERTY OR PAYING THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN PUT. TREES ELSEWHERE AROUND THE CITY TOW MAKE UP FOR IT. UM SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. THE NEXT THING THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HIS CONNECTIVITY S O. I WANT TO START WITH THIS CONNECTOR ROAD.

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I COULDN'T QUITE TELL ON THE BACK OF THE SITE PLAN, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE SIDEWALK JUST.

KIND OF DEAD ENDS INTO THAT TRANSITION LANDSCAPE BUFFER ZONE. IS IT CONNECTING TO THE SIDEWALK ON WILLOUGHBY? I WAS LOOKING AT THE E THINK THE ENGINEERING PLAN. NOT NOT THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S A DETAILED HERE, BUT WELL, LOOK AT THAT. MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY. GET THE RESTAURANT'S TOO WILL BE I WOULD LIKE THAT TO CLARIFY THIS. WE DO HAVE. SIDEWALK RUNNING ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IDENTIFIED BUT IT IS A FEET WIDE. HOW COME WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH JOE AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN WIDEN IT? 10 FT. T TO BE A MORE OF A MULTI MOTILE PATH. THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR BICYCLE, SAM PEDESTRIANS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD GET THE SIDE SLOPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY? OKAY? OKAY, WELL, I HOPE THAT YOU TRY REAL HARD S O THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN THE BACK WE DO HAVE A PRETTY LOVELY SIDEWALK THAT THE COUNTY MAINTAINS THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE ROAD BY A LARGE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE CANTOR HIGHWAY SIDE. THE SIDEWALK IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD QUITE DANGEROUS AS SOMEBODY WHO'S CYCLES ON THAT STREET, AND I THINK NOW WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RIGHT THAT WRONG AND PUT IN A SIDEWALK THAT IS ACTUALLY USABLE THAT SEPARATED FROM THE ROAD BY LANDSCAPE. S O. I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER BEING ABLE TO DO IS IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. UM ALONG THOSE LINES OF CONNECTIVITY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MARTY SHELTERS ON THIS PLAN. BUT ISN'T IT WHEN YOU HAVE A BUSINESS REQUIRED THAT BASED ON A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SHELTERS FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT? WHERE THAT IS THAT A COUNTY REQUIREMENT? PERHAPS I'M YEAH. I THOUGHT IT WAS IN CITY, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY BE WRONG, BUT JACKIE PEOPLE REACH OUT. UM THE COUNTY TRANSIT TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. TO US AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND WE AGREED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE THAT AS WELL AS YEAH. THE BUS STOP FOR THE YEAH SCHOOL. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I JUST FEEL REALLY STRONGLY. I THINK THE TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN, BUT I THINK THE WAY TO SOLVE THAT IS TO PROMOTE CYCLING AND WALKING AND USE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT. SO THINK YOU COULD HOPEFULLY DO THAT WITH THIS. UM AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS MOSTLY JUST FOR STAFF. I AM HOPING SO. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M A. MEMBER OF COSTCO. I GO TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH. I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND MY SMALL BUSINESS. LIKE MANY PEOPLE, MY SMALL BUSINESS IS POWERED BY COSTCO. SO SELFISHLY I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COST OF CLOSER, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE THOSE TAX DOLLARS. TO COME HERE TO MY HOME BECAUSE TAX DOLLARS ARE JUST MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS THERE, POLICE AND FIRE AND AMENITIES. AND SO I SEE THE POTENTIAL. FOR LOT OF ADVIL OR IN TAXES AND SALES TAXES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR CITY A LOT MORE LIVABLE AS LONG AS THE BOOKS BALANCE, SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL REDUCTION AND IMPACT FEES? YOU KNOW, THIS TREE MITIGATION SCHEME. IS IT GOING TO BALANCE OUT SO THAT. TAXES THAT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ARE REALLY WORTH THIS EXTREMELY HIGH IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU GO TO LEVELS OF TAXATION THAT WILL BE GENERATED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. YOU GOT THE. TAXES THAT ARE PAID TO PAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ACTUALLY, ITS INFRASTRUCTURE AND ITS IMPACT AT THAT MOMENT. ON LOOKING AT THAT. YES, WE HAVE THE PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT VARIOUS WAYS TO IMPROVE THE STORM WATER QUALITY, WHICH WOULD GIVE THEM SOME CREDITS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT. THE INTER MOTILE THE INTERVIEW THE CONNECTIVITY, WHETHER ANOTHER'S DEFRAY MINT OF SOME IMPACT FEES TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT INSIDE WALKS OF CONNECTIVITY. STATE STATUTE ALLOWS. THAT S O. YOU GOT THAT PRIMARY LEVEL OF

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WE SHOULD HAVE THAT MOTHER AT THAT POINT TIME NOW EVEN SPOKE WITH HIM AS EARLY AS TODAY.

RECENTLY IS TODAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I HOPE THAT AS A BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOUSING AND ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND WATER, WATER. ATTENTION, TREE MITIGATION. RIGHT? RIGHT? OKAY. THERE WAS A COMMENT. THIS WOULD BE A BOB QUESTIONS. UM, LET HIM IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT UNIFIED CONTROL. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? UM. WELL WE HAVE ALL THE PRODUCT PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT AND THE UNIFIED CONTROL WILL BE A PART OF. THE PROJECT WHEN WE COME FORWARD, I MEAN SO AND THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED REALLY UNDER MR MR MARINO IS GONNA OWN ALL THE PROPERTIES AND HE'S GONNA CONTINUE TO OWN HIM. AND MANAGEMENT AND SO THAT ROADWAY WILL BE OWNED AND THEN MAINTAINED BY THE PROJECT. THE ROADWAY WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IT WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, OKAY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A UNIFIED PROJECT. HE'S GONNA WIN THE APARTMENTS HE'S GOING ON THE COSTCO BUILDING. HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. ANYWAY COMANCHES EXERT A FAIR STATEMENT. JOE OKAY? AND I ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THE TRAFFIC TO ONE THING THAT COSTCO WITH RESPECT TO THE SCHOOLS, AND THIS WAS AN INTERESTING THING WITH PALM CITY THIS I THINK HE OPENED AT 10 O'CLOCK, MARTIN. THERE'S 10 O'CLOCK IS THAT IN THE MORNING? SO THE WALL WALLS AND PALM CITY'S GONNA BE 24 HOURS. INTERESTING TIDBIT. SO AND THIS IS A UNIQUE CPD FOR US IN THAT THERE IS THIS MIX OF USES SO. IN THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE AND IT IS A. CONCERN WHERE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS, BUT. TAKE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA 14 WHATEVER ACRES. BUT THEN YOU TAKE THE DENSITY BASED ON THE OVERALL SITE IF I WAS GONNA LOOK AT THAT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, I COULD NEVER GET THAT DENSITY IN THAT AREA. SAME FOR THE COSTCO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO ON HERE, IT'S 0.9. IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT COSTCO SITE AREA, IT'S 0.21. SO I FEEL LIKE. THERE'S A DENSITY BENEFIT MASSIVELY BY COUNTING THE WHOLE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION. THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE. DON'T NECESSARILY MIND THE FACT THAT IT'S FOUR STORIES IN THIS LOCATION. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LOCATIONS WHERE THEREFORE STORIES WHERE IT'S NOT A GOOD LOCATION. I DON'T MIND THE HEIGHT. FOUR STORIES. I'M JUST NOT TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THIS DENSITY ANALYSIS IS CALCULATED. SO CAN YOU JUST YEAH. I THINK I MADE A STATEMENT EARLIER BUT JUST DO YOU CONSOLIDATE THAT? WHEN WE CHANGED THE FUTURE LAND USED TO A USE ON THE SITE IS IN UNIFIED CONTROL, SO IT IS ONE SINGLE SITE. A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WE USE THE GROSS AREA OF THAT SITE. WE'VE USED RECOMMENDED ACTUALLY, WITH DISCUSSION FROM THE APPLICANT, A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT YOU TILL AND USE, WHICH ONE RESTRICTS THE DENSITY ON THAT TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE, BECAUSE WE'RE CALCULATING IT AS A WHOLE. SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO GO TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE ON THIS PROPERTY.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN MAKES CLEAR THAT THE CALCULATION IS BASED ON THE GROSS OF THAT FUTURE. LAND USE. OKAY, SO. DEFECATING IT INTO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. YOU'RE STARTING TO USE THE NET. CALCULATIONS WHICH IS IT DOESN'T COMPARE. IT'S NOT A COMPARABLE WAY A METHODOLOGY OR MATHEMATICAL CALCULATION TO DEAL WITH IT. IN SEPARATION I CAN UNDERSTAND.

THE CONFUSION BETWEEN THAT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESCRIPTION OF GROWTH. DENSITY OAKS AREA, OKAY? UM REGARDING LANDSCAPING. CONDITION NUMBER 30. IT

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PARKING COWPOKES I THOUGHT WAS ONE OF 200 SQUARE FEET IS THAT WANTED TO 50? MEDICAL IS 1 TO 200 THAT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE. WANTED TO 50 IS RETAIL STRIP IS ONE INCH CLOSER TO RETAIL, OKAY? I'M I'M PERSONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE COSTCO. UM. I'M NOT OVER ALL SOLD ON THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE COSTCO. I THINK AGAIN, THERE ARE BENEFITS AND CERTAINLY THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT THIS AREA GREATLY. IT'S MORE THE REST OF THE PROJECT THAT HAS ME A LITTLE CONCERNED. YOU ACTUALLY SPEAKING OF WHICH CAN YOU REVIEW THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT ONCE AGAIN, LIKE HOW MANY JOBS WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE AREA? WE BROUGHT UP THE TAX ISSUE. MM HMM. OKAY, SO THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT I'M ASKING. EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM MARK MAN THAT WHERE ELSE MANAGER FOR COSTCO IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, OKAY. ASSED, FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF THEM. NEW EMPLOYEES WE WOULD HIRE FROM MARTIN COUNTY. IT WOULD BE ABOUT 75% OF THE TOTAL. FULLY BASE. SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 150. JOBS FOR MARTIN COUNT. ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. HOW DO YOU GET THAT 75% CALCULATION. WELL WE WOULD WEIGH WOULDN'T NORMALLY.

SUPPORTS TRANSFERRED WITH BENNETT COMPANY WOULD BE AROUND 40 TO 60. INDIVIDUALS COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE, OKAY, AND THEN THE REST WILL COME FROM THE COMMUNITY. HOW DO YOU ASCERTAIN THOSE INDIVIDUALS? DUAL JOB FAIRS. WHAT DO YOU WE WOULD DO JOB FAIRS, ESPECIALLY RIGHT? OKAY. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD SEVERAL RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP WAS. DO WE NEED MORE GAS STATIONS? I MEAN, THE COSTCO STORE IS ONE THING. BUT, UM CAN YOU. SAY, UM, WASN'T ANALYSIS DONE AND DETERMINED THAT WE DID. WE NEED MORE GAS STATIONS BECAUSE I KNOW I'M A COSTCO SHOPPER MYSELF AND THERE SEVERAL COST SCHOOLS THAT HAVE SHOPPED AT THAT DOES NOT HAVE

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FOR THAT REASON IN THAT IT IS A SCENE IS AN ANCILLARY SERVICE OR BUSINESS TO THAT MEMBER, PROVIDING HIM THAT YOU KNOW THAT GOOD PRICE ON THE GASOLINE? YES AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IN TERMS OFF THE NEED FOR IT IN TERMS OFF. UM, WHATEVER HAZARD IT BRING TO THE AREA. IS IT JUSTIFIABLE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK. IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE AT MOST OF THEIR LOCATIONS. THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY A FEW THAT DON'T HAVE IT NOW. UM. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THE MEMBERS HAVE SEEN AS A VALUE ADDED FOR THAT MEMBERSHIP, UM. COULD TELL YOU FROM HAVING DONE COSTCO'S FOR OVER 20 YEARS THAT THEIR FUEL FACILITY PROGRAM THE DESIGN OF IT, THE CARE OF IT IS TOP NOTCH. I MEAN, EVEN THE FUEL THAT YOU BUY AT THE FACILITY. IS OVER THE HIGHEST GRADE. SO IF YOU KNOW, COSTCO, THEY DO THINGS YOU KNOW REALLY WELL. THEY WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE INDUSTRY LEADER AND WITH THEIR FUEL FACILITIES. THEY DO THAT THEY ALSO DON'T. TO THE POINT. THEY DON'T HAVE A MINI MART OUT THERE. THEY DON'T SELL ANY PRODUCT AT THE AT THE FUEL FACILITY. IT IS JUST JUST THE GASOLINE AGAIN, AS SORT OF THAT EXTENDED VALUE TO THE MEMBER. THANK YOU AND HIS 18. THE TYPICAL SET NUMBER IT IS. AND. HEY, I HAVE THEM LANDSCAPING QUESTION. DOUG. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 25% ALSO AND THE NEED TO MAINTAIN IT AT 25% OF NATIVES. GINA CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIKE, PLEASE? CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIKE? SORRY. CAN'T HEAR YOU, DOUG. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 25% BEING NATIVE LIKE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'D WANT MUCH MORE LIKE 50% ON THEIR SITE PROBLEM. WE'RE TRYING TO REACH 75 100% NATIVE ON THIS SIDE OR. I'M JUST SAYING IN THAT THAT NEED OF VEGETATION REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE 100% NATIVE IN THAT CASE, OKAY, SO THEN THE REST WILL BE LIKE WAY MORE BECAUSE I WAS DOWNSTAIRS NATIVE IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S PAUL SAVINGS FOR IRRIGATION. IT'S PAST. IT'S A GOOD THING WAY. TRY TO PROMOTE THAT. DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE. I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH THAT PARKING LOT. IT. THERE IS NO SHADE AND THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET HOTTER.

WE'RE NOT GETTING COOLER. BUT WE NEED SHADE TREES, AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY THAT YOU CAN PUT THEM ALL ALONG THERE IN BETWEEN THE TWO STRIPS. WE HAVE LOTS OF GOOD PARKING LOTS AND WAYS TO DESIGN THEM. IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE LESS PARKING, YOU KNOW WHAT WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT JOE. TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE MEETING, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT POSSIBLY ADDING TREE DIAMONDS THROUGHOUT THE PARKING AREA. TOL ADD ADDITIONAL PALM TREES AND TREES.

WE NEED SHANE CASEY, NO PALM TREES. NO MORE PALM TREE. OKAY. YOU NEED SHADE TREES, OAK TREES THAT ARE GONNA BUG YOU IN A 50 YEARS. I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA CRAP THIS EVENT. IT'S GONNA BE OKAY. WE'LL GO WITH THE CRACKS, AND IT'S SO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, RIGHT? WE CANNOT PRETEND. THAT PALM TREES OR SHADE TREES, OKAY? SO THEN THE NEXT THING, OKAY? I'M STILL WITH YOU HERE. GET WHEN YOU HAVE THAT VERY BIG THING OVER THERE ON THE END, AND THEN ALL OF THIS PARKING DOWN HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS BIG, LONG LAKE. THAT IS LIKE A RECTANGLE.

THIS ONE? YES, THAT ONE, AND IT IS. 25 FT THERE. WE FIGHT. YOU CAN'T PUT A BRIDGE ACROSS THAT

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THERE WAS TALK IN THE PEOPLE WORK ABOUT. PUTTING A BRIDGE ACROSS IT, BUT IT WAS TOO DEEP.

YEAH, THAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH OUR ENGINEERS THAT YOU KNOW. STAT. YEAH. THE DEPTH WAY WANT TO MAXIMIZE THAT DEPTH BECAUSE THE ACTUAL. NIGERIAN POSTURES REMOVAL IN A WET DETENTION, LIKE LIKE THAT HAPPENS IN THE PERMANENT FULL VOLUME THE VOLUME OF WATER BELOW THE NORMAL WATER LEVEL IN THE LAKE. SO MAXIMIZING THAT IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO THE STORM. SO DOESN'T THAT SHAPE OF THAT LEG. NOT HELP YOU MAXIMIZE THAT. I MEAN, THAT IS A RECTANGLE. SO AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND ABOUT WATER AND THE USE OF. LANCE AND CLEANING UP THAT WATER. HAVING THAT RECTANGLE IS GONNA BE YOUR WORST ENEMY, RIGHT? RIGHT, WOLF. NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE DISTRICT AND ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE DISTRICT STRANGE AND SHARING IN GENERAL. YOU DON'T WANT TO PROMOTE SHORT CIRCUITING. YOU WANTED THAT THAT STORM WATER TO FLOW THROUGH THE SYSTEM SO LONGER, FINGER LAKES AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA, THE DISTRICT ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT BENNETT. WE WERE PLANNING A LITERAL STUFF AROUND ALL OF THE LEGS. OKAY I'M ABOVE AND BEYOND COVERED, SO AS FAR AS I THOUGHT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THOSE RECTANGLES RIGHT AND TRYING TO PROVIDE. AREAS IF THIS IS ALL WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN WETLANDS, I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROVIDE THINGS THAT ARE VISUALLY BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK AT RIGHT SO, OR AT LEAST. IN A NATURAL WAY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU'RE MAKING A RECTANGLE THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET THAT IS MAYBE 400 FT LONG UM.

ALONG THE ROAD THERE ALONG THE MAIN ENGINES. AT ONE LONG BAKE ON THE LEFT THERE, SORT OF TO THE NORTH OF THE OF THE ENTRY OF THE ROADWAY. HOW LONG IS THAT WEEK? I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LINCOLN AND. IT HAS TO BE WHAT 300 FT THAT SONG. LONGER THAN THAT, SO IT'S ONE FINE. OF ITS ONE RECTANGLE OF LAKE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE'VE SEEN THIS ALL OUR LIVES. WE NEED SOMETHING. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA WHEN PEOPLE GET THERE'S ABOUT A DETENTION. AREA IN THE NORTH END OF IT THAT LOAD UP ON THE HEAD. SORRY, LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S ABOUT 30 FT. NO, NO, NO. SO THE LEG BANKS ALONE OR 20 FT, SO SEE IT, BUT IT'S MOVING. NOW IT'S OVER. IF YOU HOLD THE POINTER TO GET A GREEN BUTTON UP, OKAY? SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE? YES IS A DEDICATED BY THIS CENTURY THAT IS GONNA BE PLANTED WITH NATIVE VEGETATION. WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE MORE AKIN TO A NATURAL WEALTH. SO THAT WILL BE ALL PLANNED IT OUT. JUST JUST FOR SCALE. THIS BANK RIGHT HERE WHERE MY ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE LASER IS 20 FT, SO THIS AREA WELL. OKAY AND THEN, SO THAT'S 20 FT, AND THE LENGTH OF THE LAKE MUST BE 500 FT. AUSTRALIA. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BIG, OKAY? I THINK THAT THOSE LAKES AND THE RETENTION POND AT THE BOTTOM AND ATLANTA BUT THE TOP I THINK THEY COULD USE A LOT OF HELP. YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY REALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND SO THAT ONE WE ARE DRIVING BY IT AND LOOKING AT IT THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL WORTH HAVING INSTEAD OF JUST ANOTHER RETENTION POND. THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BEYOND. OKAY. MY NEXT ONE IS THAT HUGE, LONG? MANY MANY, MANY FEET OF BUILDING. THAT IS GOING TO ACT AS A FENCE. RIGHT THERE ALL OF IT TO THE LEFT ALL THOSE BUILDINGS, ALL OF THE APARTMENT OR ONE LONG LINE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE A RACCOON THAT GETS ACROSS THERE. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LIZARD THAT GETS ACROSS THERE. SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN TO THAT TO THAT. THOSE BUILDINGS RIGHT THAT THAT IT ISN'T JUST ONE STRAIGHT LINE OF CONCRETE WERE NOT NOTHING CAN GET THROUGH. YOU'VE GOT IT.

SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU NEED TO CREATE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK OR. ANIMALS TO GET THROUGH INSTEAD OF JUST ONE. I MEAN, HOW MANY FEET IS THAT BUILDING? ANYONE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE. LIKE HOW LONG IS THE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE? 4 28 IS THE ONE ON THE. NORTHWEST IT'S 428 FT FOR 28 THAT WAY. SO THERE'S 428 RUNNING FEET OF CONCRETE BLOCK. FROM THE IF

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WE HAVE OUR EYES. WORLD PLANTED HERE THAT DAVID HAD JUST MENTIONED. THERE'S THIS. THIS IS WHAT BUILDING SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS IS JUST THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT. WE'RE BUILDING. YES. 1234. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. PROBABLY BOB COULD ANSWER HIM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC ROAD WAY USE. BUT PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, CORRECT. YES. ARE YOU GONNA PLANET OR EVEN MINUTE OR HOW YOU GONNA. I THINK I THINK IT'S SOME POINT. THERE MAY BE A DESIRE TO PLANET THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE WILL AT SOME POINT THAT BECAUSE. THINK SAID, HE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT WITH YOU REALLY SURE WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON IT. IN THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PLAN IT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE UNDER YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU'RE MAY BE, IT MAY BE DESIRABLE TO PLANET FOR CERTAIN REASONS. CLASS OR EASEMENT. THERE'LL BE SOMETHING THERE THAT YOU USE IS THE TRADE. RIGHT? RIGHT? YES, SIR. THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS. YOU NEED YOU NEED. AH, HAVE THE ENGINEERS AND STUFF EARLIEST POSSIBLE TO START LOOKING AT WHERE THEIR MAIN LINE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE. UTILITY FROM THE CITY OF STUART, BECAUSE. THERE'S A BREAK WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE CITY OWNED, RIGHT? THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE EASEMENT IT OUT. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA BE PRIVATE. SO. YOU GOTTA DO THAT. WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW YOU'RE GONNA TRANSFER. THE ROADWAY AND STUFF BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CATCH YOU DOWN THE LINE. OKAY? YEAH. IT'S BILL. UM YES. SO WE'VE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COORDINATION WITH MARCO GALINO AND THE GUYS OVER AND YOU TELL YOUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH. GOOD COVERAGE WITH WATER MAINS AROUND THE PROPERTY. THERE'S ONE ON THE EAST FRONT THAT SOUTH AND NORTH AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING. IT'S AN EXTENSION ALONG CANADA WILL BE COVERED THERE. IT'S THERE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE PRIVATE SERVICES TO ALL THOSE SO THEY HAVE TO. THEY DON'T HAVE WE HAVE TWO DON'T HAVE TO TURN OVER HIS MANY PUBLIC MEANS. YOU GOT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN A PUBLIC MAINE. GONNA MEET HER. EACH BUILDING WERE YES. SO THE RESIDENTIAL PROBABLY MASTER METERED OFF OF WILLOUGHBY. THERE'S A MAIN ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY THERE, COSTCO, WE'LL TIE OFF THE MAIN ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. THE RETAIL USES. WE'LL HAVE THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA STALL LONG ABOUT THE FIRE. IS THAT GONNA BE COMIN WITH THE UTILITY? NO. SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT THEY DIDN'T NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THAT LINE, EITHER. SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS RUNNING A FIRE LOOP THROUGH THE PROPERTY. FOULS BETWEEN WILL BE IN CAMP. YOU'RE RUNNING TO SUPPER SYSTEM. ALL RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET IT WITH THE EASEMENTS AND STUFF. TRYING TO REDUCE AS MUCH POSSIBLE THE ONLY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES THAT WE'RE TURNING OVER IS IN THE NEXT TO THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY. WE'RE BUILDING THE CITY OF LIP STATION. ALL THE GRAVITY MAIN UPTO LIFT STATION WILL BE OURS UNDER OWNERSHIP OF THE DEVELOPER. THE STATION, HOWEVER, WILL BE TURNED OVER AND A CONDITION THAT ON PUTTING IT NEXT TO CANDOR HIGHLAND RIGHT NOW, I SHOULD SAY THAT'S ALL THE DEED. AND. YOU WORK WITH MATT BEFORE RIGHT, SO FIRE INSPECTOR. HE DOESN'T CARE HOW BIG COST. OH, IS. NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MAKING SURE THERE'S FIRE PROTECTION. HE DOES HIS JOB VERY WELL. SO HE'S REVIEWED IT. WE HE GAVE US A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS REGARDING HYDRANT, SPACING HOSE RUNS AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. IT'S BASIC 170 SEASON WE INCORPORATED. THAT'S WHY I SAY ABOUT MY MAIN CONCERN

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UM. THE OTHER THING. BOB IS THE. THE LIGHT IS THE LIGHT PART OF THAT ROADWAY FATE. THE SIGNAL.

YEAH I'LL HAVE TO PREFER THE SHOES ON THAT. LEAVE IT IS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA BE THE ONE ANSWER. WE HAVE AH, GOING TO GET THE SIGNAL IN HIS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE MERCY OF THE D O T. BUT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY PLANS WITH THEM THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW ON BEN AS SOON AS WE CAN. GET IT APPROVED. THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED. THE LIGHT WILL MORE GOLD. WE'LL BE. I THINK WE'LL HAVE THE LIGHT IN AT THE SAME TIME. IF NOT, UM BUT THEN. THINK, KEVIN IN THEM. WHAT WE GONNA DO THIS? YOU CAN CONDITION THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY. YEAH, CEO, RIGHT? WITH THE LIGHT BEING IN AT THE TIME YOU ISSUE THE FIRST CEO RIGHT? WITH ROAD CAN BE CONSTRUCTED. YOU DON'T NEED THE LIGHT WITH NOTHING DOWN THERE, RIGHT? OH, OKAY. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING YOU KNOW? YOU ALWAYS BRING UP SOMETHING ABOUT MARTA THAT KEEPS STOPPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WAYS YOU CAN FLOG IN TRAFFIC, RIGHT? AND WE KEEP WANTING TO HAVE A BUS STOP OR SOMETHING TO GET HIM OFF THE ROAD. I'M NOT SURE. I THINK WE'RE EXPLAINED THAT THERE'S CONDITIONS THAT THEY WILL GO INSIDE OF A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THERE'S CONDITIONS THEY WON'T. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD PLEASE IF YOU GET THAT THING OFF OF 76 TALKING ABOUT A TRAFFIC JAM, SO THEY GET IN AND.

THEY'RE HAPPY AND ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE THAT WOULD BE I WOULD THINK WOULD BE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT. WELL I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE BENEFITS WAS GONNA COME WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DON'T GO IN GATED COMMUNITIES AND THEY DO IT. BUT THIS THIS ROAD WILL, I THINK. GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE.

BUT WE HEARD FROM KIMBERLY. YEAH, AND FOR MR COCA, I THINK HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT. YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BOARD ISSUE, AND WE'VE ALWAYS NOT BEEN I WOULD DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY, OKAY? I THINK I HEARD. HAD OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED. CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE. I DID WRITE NOTES FOR ONCE. THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, AND I THINK JUST THE LAST ONE IS WILLOUGHBY'S INTERSECTION THAT'S NON LIGHTED, CORRECT, CORRECT. OUTSIDE THAT. I THINK I'M DONE. NO. THERE WAS A COMMENT BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MEMBER THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AT CONCURRENCY UNTIL FINAL SITE PLAN. CORRECT. SO THIS IS CPD, ZONING, LAND USE AND MASTER. SO THEY'LL NEED TO COME BACK FOR FINAL SITE PLAN. TO THIS BOARD. SHOULD PLAN. OKAY SO NOT FINAL SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE TYPICALLY REVIEW FINAL SITE WHEN WE REVIEW MASTER, BUT WE ALSO REVIEW FINAL. SO IS THERE JUST A DIFFERENCE IN. WORDING YEAH, WELL, THAT THIS PROCESS IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS YOU WILL NORMALLY PROVIDE MOVED TO COMMISSION BASED ON THE SEA

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PROJECT AUTO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE VOLUNTEERING A FEW UNITS WHERE YOU'RE UNDER 100% RATIO FOR OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND STUFF. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT IT IS, BUT I KNOW THAT IS A RATIO THAT NO. OTHERS ARE AWARE OF WHEN YOU RIP RIGHT. OH, I, YOU KNOW.

IT'S PROBABLY WORTH YOU CONSIDERING TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT TO HELP THE LOCAL MORE OR LESS OF A WORKFORCE HOUSING, READ A PORTION OF IT THE BILL. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WHAT MIGHT MENTION IF THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT CONDITION. IN THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING UP THAT DELTA WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT. NOW IT'S THE VOLUNTEER. BY THE WAY, THERE'S A DISTINCTION, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS WAY EVER GOTTEN SUIT FOR YET SOMEONE I THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. WHAT IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT ON THAT? MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THE MANDATING AND I KNOW, HE SAID, VOLUNTEERING. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ONCE GOVERNMENT STARTS GETTING INTO.

THIS IDEA OF THIS MANY IS GOING TO BE FOR WORK. FOR THEN GOVERNMENT IS IN DICTATING MARKET DEMAND. IF TOO MANY DEVELOPERS BUILD APARTMENTS, AND THERE'S A SUPER CAPACITY OF APARTMENTS AND THE PRICES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN. THAT'S THE DEVELOPERS RISK. HE NEEDS TO TAKE THAT RISK ON HE'S AWARE THAT RISK BUT IF WE START TELLING DEVELOPERS. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED. THEN YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE AN EFFICIENT MARKET. SO I JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT. DICTATING AM WELL, NOT NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT'S. YOU'RE ATTACKING IT FROM THE WRONG END, AND THE PROBLEM IS IN THIS AREA. IT'S A TOUGH IT'S A TOUGH CALL, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT DENSITY.

WE TALKED. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING IT TONIGHT, RIGHT? BUT GUESS WHAT CREATES CREATES AFFORDABLE HOUSING DANCING DENSITY, SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND WHAT YOU'RE ARGUING. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT CREATE. IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND. IT'S NOT PRICING. ONE THING. THE PRICING IS DETERMINED BY SUPPLY AND DEMAND. SO YOU'RE TRYING TO REGULATE IT THROUGH THESE MECHANISMS AND. PROBLEMS IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. IF YOU REALLY IF YOU REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THE ISSUE MORE DENSITY. I MEAN THROUGHOUT. I'M NOT TALKING TO HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE. THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, AND I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DON'T LIKE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THAT'S A DIRTY WORD, AND YOU HAVEN'T SEEN WAY HAVEN'T SEEN ANOTHER PLACES THAT THEN SAID THAT HAVING TROUBLE BECAUSE WEI HAVEN'T SORRY, I JUST THINK IT'S WAY HAVEN'T SEEN ANOTHER PLACES THAT HIGHER DENSITY HAS LOWERED PRICES. HAVE NOT SEEN THAT WHERE ANOTHER PLACES SOUTH FLORIDA, SO DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? LIKE IN OTHER PLACES. HIGHER DENSITY HASN'T BROUGHT RENTS DOWN HASN'T BROAD I'M NOT TRUE. THAT IS TRUE, OF COURSE. IT IS. NOT. I MEAN, AGAIN. OF COURSE, YOU GET TO THE POINT.

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WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND. THIS MARKET AND WITH THIS AREA SO, UM YOU KNOW, WE. WE HAVE CERTAIN VISIONS. HOW ON HOW WE WANT THINGS. THE OTHER THINGS THAT RUN AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND STUFF THAT WE DO, AND I DEAL WITH THIS ONE PRODUCT, THEN IMPACT FEES JACK UP ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE THROW ON TOP. HAS AN IMPACT ON THE IN THE BOTTOM LINE. END OF THE DAY. OH, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IT'S BIGGER THAN. YOU CAN DO TONIGHT. WELL, BUT ALSO I MEAN, IF WE DON'T DO IT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CONVERSATION, IF WE JUST SAY LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT OUR JOB IN THE DEVELOPER SAYS WELL, IT'S NOT MY JOB. I MEAN, IT'S NOT A JOB. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHICAL POSITION WITH RESPECT TO HOUSING. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IN THIS CITY OF STUDENT WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT THEN THEN WHAT YOU MIGHT BELIEVE. OKAY, I THINK THAT THAT LET'S TAKE AFFORDABILITY OUT OF THE ISSUE AND JUST THINK ABOUT LIVABILITY. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE. RESPONSIBILITY TO APPROVE PROJECTS THAT FIT THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY AND CREATE A LIVABLE ENVIRONMENT LIKE DO WE BUY THIS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER? IS THIS THE FUTURE? THIS IS GONNA BE HERE FOREVER. IS THIS THE FUTURE THAT WE WANT? ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? QUESTION. I GUESS I UM. IT IS NOT THE FUTURE THAT I WANT, REALLY? I MEAN, I WANT COSTCO. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AND AT THE SAME TIME I SEE THIS PROJECT. I SEE THIS PROJECT AS BEING INCREDIBLY DENSE FOR THAT. I DON'T SEE IT. SEE THE RETENTION PONDS IS BEING UNIMAGINATIVE AND SAD. I THINK THAT YOU COULD DO A LOT BETTER. I SEE THE PARKING LOT AS A TOTAL MESS AND AS IT GETS HOTTER. IT'S. GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR US, AND IF WE CAN ALL CHANGE IT IF WE COULD ALL MAKE IT BETTER. WHY NOT? I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE. THAT THAT THAT THAT'S THE BEST DESIGN FOR A PARKING LOT THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. UM AND. I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF UNITS OF HOUSING FOR THAT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT'S DEVOTED TO HOUSING AND I KNOW THAT ARE THE WAY THAT WE. WAY THAT WE COUNT. THE NUMBERS IS BY THE WHOLE PROJECT, BUT. REALITY OF IT IS THAT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA LIVE IN ONE SPOT. I HAVE A HARD TIME. NO. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S THE PLAN IS THE PLAN.

AH THE ONLY THING IS, I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE PRETTY GOOD STUDIES, TOO. YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHETHER WHERE THEY'RE GOING THERE. AND PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW? CITY. YOU KNOW, WE DICTATE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED. I THINK THEY HAVE AN OPTION IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO REDUCE IT, BUT THEY AND STAFF HAVE ALREADY BEEN, YOU KNOW, DETERMINING. WE HAD THE SAME THING WITH WAL MARKET WALL MARKING THROUGH, BUT MAMA, WE MADE THEM DO. WE MADE HIM CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL NOT BE MADE THEM. GIVE US. ESCAPING IN THE PARKING LOT. WE WOULD THEN GIVE US ACCESS ROAD WE THEY WORKED FOR. THEY DID A LOT OF THINGS FOR THEM. YEAH, THEY PRESERVED A BUNCH AROUND THE HIGHWAY. THEY GO. STATION SO AND HERE WE HAVE SQUARE RETENTION. IT'S TRUE, BUT. I'M NOT JUSTIFYING BECAUSE I AM NOT A GOOD PLAN. WHAT. THE SIZE OF THOSE ARE REALLY. SO FROM A GROUND VIEW, YOU KNOW? MUCH BIGGER THAN THEY LOOK ON THE

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SO ENGINEERS CORRECT. THEY NEED THE LARGE VOLUME, BUT. I, YOU KNOW, PLANNERS. IT'S OUT OF MY SCOPE. AGAIN IS LIKE THE WAL MART, RIGHT? BIG STORE. TRAFFIC. AND ONE THING I SAY IS TYPICALLY WAL MART. NO. UNLESS IT'S CHRISTMAS OR SOMETHING. I'VE GOT LIKE HALF THE SPACE IS HIM. OKAY, BUT THEY YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SPACE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A MINIMUM. THAT WE REQUIRE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. I REQUEST THAT THE CITY REDUCE IT. THERE ARE PARKING MINIMUMS THAT THEY USED SO. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE UP SOME SPACES WHERE YOU GET THE BIGGER TREES. SYLLABLE FOR US, TOO. DO YOU KNOW, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF HAS THAT AUTHORITY TO ALLOW IT. SAID. IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT? UH, YOU WERE SAYING THAT MAYBE YOU COULD, UM. CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING. WELL, YES. KEVIN FREEMAN DEVELOPMENT ALREADY WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH BEAUTIES IN THE CITY IS A REDUCTION OF REQUIRED. PARKING SPACES ON WE'VE SEEN AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 1.6 RESIDENTIAL UNIT. REALLY WHAT WE ALLOW. TO BE DISCUSSED ON NEGOTIATED WITH PLANNED YOU NEW DEVELOPMENTS IS WHAT WORKS. FOR THE MARKET WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER. REQUIRES HAVING SAID THAT WE WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE A REDUCTION IN PARKING ON AN INCREASE IN LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PARKING AREAS. WE HAVE MADE THESE SUGGESTIONS WE'VE MADE MAURA SUGGESTIONS AND A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TONIGHT. IT'S THE DEVELOPERS PREROGATIVE TO BRING FORWARD A PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE TONIGHT. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. SO LIKE I MENTIONED THAT. I APPRECIATE THE COSTCO AND WHAT IT WHAT IT BRINGS TO THE MARKET. I. AND I KNOW TIME IS MONEY AND YOU GUYS SPENT YEARS ON THIS IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. I JUST THINK IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA YOU KNOW, UH. I'M NOT SAYING NECESSARILY LESS DENSITY. WHAT. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SAID MAYBE MORE CREATIVITY, MAYBE MORE INTERCONNECTIVITY. SOMETHING IN THAT. HOCKETT. I THINK THE COMMERCIAL UP FRONT. I'M I'M OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH COSTCO. IT'S THAT RESIDENTIAL PIECE. TO ME. IT'S JUST NOT FITTING THE WAY IT IS. AND I DON'T HAVE MORE TO GIVE YOU THEN TO SAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THERE THEN I THINK I'M. GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE. BUT RIGHT NOW WITH HOW IT LOOKS AND WHERE IT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THERE. SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. IS THERE ANY CHANCE WAS FLOODING THIS P UT UP AND THEN THE CASCO PORTION OF IT APPROVED AND LEAVING THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. YOU KNOW WHAT? TO THAT TO THAT POINT I'D LIKE TO MAYBE HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER ON. LISTEN HERE. HERE'S OUR BUSINESS MODEL. IF YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE COULD GET RID OF 30 UNITS. THEN WE'RE NO GO. WE'RE OUT OF HERE. STUART AND I LIKED THEO SOMETHING. I AM NOT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU. I JUST WANT TO KNOW. THEY'RE YOU KNOW, JUST YEAH. GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. SO FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS RENDERING DOES THE PROJECT JUSTICE BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING IT FROM THE WRONG VIEW. IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE STREET VIEW, YOU'D BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT PROBABLY BLOCK.

GOOD PORTION OF YOUR VIEW TO THE PONDS. THEY ARE. I CALL IN PONDS BECAUSE THEY ARE LARGE.

YOUR POINT. AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTIAL. OUR MODEL IS WE WANTED TO BUILD A VERY UPSCALE RENTAL PROJECT. 10 TO 15,000 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE. SO WHEN SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE

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BUT ON THE OTHER ELEVATION IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN FOR A MOMENT NEVER. SO HOW DO YOU PUT. SO THIS ELEVATION RIGHT HERE. IS. COMBINATION OF ONE, THE TWO STORY GLASS WRAPS AROUND. THIS WHOLE SITE. SO WHEN YOU COME THROUGH HERE. THIS WILL BE THE ENTRANCE. THIS IS ALL CLUBHOUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THROUGH THE BUILDING TO THE LATE. WHO A LIAM ENTITIES OUT THERE. OKAY? SAFE FROM THAT POINT TO THE END OF THE BUILDING IS ALL CLUBHOUSE IN A MAN. WITH A BEAUTIFUL VIEW THROUGH THE BUILDING, SO YOU COULDN'T PULL SORT OF WHAT'S IN THIS WHOLE COURTYARD AREA RIGHT THROUGH VERY VISIBLE. ALSO HAS A VISIBILITY LINE THROUGH THE RETAIL WHERE WE HOPE TO GET SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS WITH OUTDOOR EATING AREAS, UMBRELLAS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. AND SO THIS WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER. REST OF THE BUILDING. IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THIS ELEVATION IS LONG, BUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING. ON THE BUILDING. ELEVATION IS THERE ARE TOO WIDE OPENINGS HERE AND HERE THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO PASS THROUGH ONTO THIS GREEN AREA AND THE ELDER TRAVERSE AROUND. YEAH. PLANET LANDSCAPE IN LAKE AREA, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THEIRS BREAKS IN THE BUILDING. THERE'S BREAKS IN THE ELEVATION. LEADS HER IN AND OUT IN AND OUT SO THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE. AND UM, THIS IS ALL GREEN. BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDING. SO IT'S TOUGH TO APPRECIATE THAT FROM THIS PLAN. UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY WALK THROUGH THE FLOOR PLANS AND WE DROPPED YOU DOWN FOR THIS SORT OF STREET LEVEL TOE. LOOK IN. ONE THING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS. TREAT THE MATTER IS WHETHER IT'S 3 98 OR 3 50. NO ONE'S GOING TO KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THERE ARE THERE FROM THE ROAD. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. PEOPLE GET HUNG UP ON. WHAT HELPS US MAKE THE PROJECT AFFORDABLE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO HIGHLY AMENDED TIES IT CONCIERGE STAFF SUPPORT SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS IS THE MORE UNITS WE COULD GET.

CHEAPER IT IS FOR US TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES PER HEAD. SO. WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A HIGHLY INVENTIVE TIES PROJECT, YOU DO NEED THE NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL PAYING FOR YOUR GENERAL STAFF. WHETHER YOU HAVE 50 UNITS OR 350. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU GET FORCED DOWN AND DENSITY. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ONLY GONNA PAY SO MUCH. EVEN IF YOUR GOLD PLATED SO. WE WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE AS MANY AMENITIES. AS WE CAN.

BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE THE BAR. FOR WHAT? FIRST FOR WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID BEFORE US. SO WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO PROJECT FOR PEOPLE SAY THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO LIVE, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT WELL, WHO'S GONNA WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A COSTCO? I COULD TELL YOU THAT. MY DIRECTIVE TO MY DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS WE NEED THE LANDSCAPE. THIS TO BE HELPED.

UM BECAUSE. WANT TO BLOCK THE APARTMENT SECTION OUT FROM THE COSTCO. I MEAN, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE A BIG INVESTMENT THERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED A HEAVILY LANDSCAPE. THIS AREA. CREATE THIS DISTANCE. FROM THE ROAD TO THE BUILDINGS. AND. EIGHT SEPARATE ENVIRONMENT. FOR THE APARTMENT. JACKIE, CAN I ASK WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT? WELL, YOU TWO CREATED. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHEN YOU MEAN THAT TERM? LIKE THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLING. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE VERY TYPE OF PROPERTY? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I THINK A NATE TRUE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL REQUIRES. VARIETY I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY COMPLETELY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY TO KEEP COSTS DOWN IS TO BUILD IT ALL THE SAME. BUT AS A NEIGHBOR THAT'S I THINK NOT. NOT THE. NOT WHAT MAKES OUR TOWN VIBRANT AND SPECIAL. AND I THINK THAT WHILE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PREROGATIVES TO MAKE HIS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE ON THIS PROJECT, WE COULD HAVE A BETTER. NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THESE PEOPLE IF WE SAW YOU, NOT JUST A BLOCK, A GIANT BLOCK OF CONCRETE AND PERSONALLY DENSE MEGA DEBTS.

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AND TO ME, IT'S UNINSPIRED. WE COULD. WE COULD BE DOING MORE WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW.

VARIETY OF HOUSES, SIZE SHAPE, YOU KNOW PRICE, PERHAPS THAT AREN'T ALL JUST ONE GIANT CONCRETE BLOCK. THIS FEELS SUBURBAN. IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN LIKE A NAMELESS TOWN. IT DOESN'T FEEL TO ME. LIKE SOMETHING THAT I COULD SAY I'M PROUD THAT I VOTED FOR THAT PROJECT, AND IT'S BEEN BUILT NOW AND I DESPERATELY WANT TO VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME SOMETHING, BUT. IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU KNOW FOR THE LONG TERM, WE WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE. AND THAT STAYS RENTED. BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB. WE'VE CREATED PHENOMENAL ENVIRON. SO I'M WITH YOU. AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH SAM. ARCHITECTURE AND, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING. YOU'VE BEEN THAT WAY IN HIS ENTIRE TIME. THESE ARE QUICK. IT WAS A STAFF OF RECORD, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. EVERY GOOD IDEA THAT COMES OUT THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.

I'M ALL FOR IT. I'M NOT STUCK IN ANYTHING. BELIEVE ME. IF THIS THING TURNED OUT TO BE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO OWN A CONCRETE JUNK. NO, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT WAY, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T NOT WHAT WE DO. PRIVATE OWNERS. IT'S LIKE YOU WERE ALL UP HERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN IT. IT'S OUR NAME. AND. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS A LONG TIME. WE'VE GONE THROUGH RECESSIONS. WE'VE NEVER FAILED WITH A BANK. WE NEVER GAVE HIS PROPERTY BACK. AND SO. RELISH.

DON'T WARN THEM. BY THE WAY, THERE'S TOWNS WHERE WHERE WE SAID LOOK, A FEW UNITS ASIDE, AND WE MANDATED HIM TWO VETERAN HOUSING. YEAH, WE WERE OFFERING THE VETERANS FIRST. WITH THAT IF YOU LOOK IT UP WHO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES. YOU'RE DEALING WITH GOOD PEOPLE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK MUCH BECAUSE THEY DO THE RIGHT THING ANYWAY. SO. I UNDERSTAND YOUR BOARD HAS AN OBLIGATION. WISH WE KNEW EACH OTHER BETTER BE LESSENED. CHALLENGE BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS ON BOTH SIDES. SO. FORWARD WHERE JACKIE, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK. IS THAT YOU HAVE. MAKE IT WORK, AND I DO THINK THAT. CONTRACT IT IS THAT THE PLAN FOR THE WATER RETENTION AREAS IT'S REALLY SAD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT A STRAIGHT EDGE OF WATER THERE ALONG AND RODE THAT MAYBE THERE'S A 30 FT. BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE. AND THAT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 FT. OF A STRAIGHT THING OF WHAT I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING NATURAL ABOUT IT. DO YOU NEVER MEAN THERE IS NOTHING LIKE. THERE'S NO REASON THAT THIS CANNOT HAVE AREAS THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF THE WORLD THAT IT'S SET IN, YOU KNOW, AND. RECTANGULAR PAWNS DON'T REALLY EXIST IN NATURE. YOU KNOW THEY LIKE A MAN MADE OBJECT. AND THEY WILL. YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE THESE THINGS. THAT ARE LOOK MAN MADE INSTEAD OF A BEAUTIFUL THING THAT YOU COULD HAVE. I'M HAPPY, TOO. HEARD THINGS. LOOK, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET THE GUYS TO DO IT STRAIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO IF I MAKE YOU KURT, MAKING HER ROOM FOR A MISTAKE, JUST LIKE PERFECT THREE LITTLE MARGIN OF ERROR. I ALSO KNOW THAT THE ENGINEERS ARE ALSO TRYING TO CAPACITY. AND THEY HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. I'M ALL FOR IT. AND THEN THERE'S THE PARKING LOT OVER. THERE S O THE PARKING LOT. SO THE PARKING LOT ONE THING WE COULD DO WITH THE PARKING LOT. THE BIGGEST THING WITH COSTCO IS THEY WANT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. WORK. NO. HAPPEN TO GO DOWN THE WRONG I'LL. THAT'S THAT'S A BIG PARKING LOT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE WAY AROUND BECAUSE YOU WENT DOWN THE WRONG I'LL BECAUSE THERE'S CURVES IN THE WAY, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY HAD TREE DIAMONDS WHERE WE COULD ADD SHADE TREES AND. OH, HE'S LOOKING AROUND, YOU KNOW? SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT ON. AND WE CAN'T COUNT COUNTRIES THAT SHADE TREE. WE CAN'T COUNT FROM

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PLEASE. WAS A LOT OF ITS ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPE. BECAUSE I WOULD ACTUALLY TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE WHEN THEY HAVE THE RENDERINGS OF THE POSSIBLE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IT DOESN'T FIT WITH. WHAT. IS KIND OF THE CHARMING PART OF STUART LIKE THE CURRENT. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FLIP TO THE PICTURE OF WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE IT DOES LOOK LIKE.

HUNGRY. SO IS THERE AN ARCHITECT THAT LIKE. WELL, I WILL SAY THAT WHEN THEY LAST AND THEY WERE THERE DIFFERENT PROJECT THEY WERE. I BELIEVE TOWN HOUSES THAT JUST CAME BEFORE US LAST TIME, BUT THEY HAD MORE OF A KEY WEST STYLE TO HIM, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A STYLE.

BUT. IS MORE APPEALING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, WORKING. WOULD HAVE PUT THE PEOPLE WANT. FOR ME, IT'S MORE ABOUT SPACE AND STYLE, RIGHT? LIKE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING BEAUTIFULLY. YOU COULD HAVE THE MOST MODERN PLACE EVER. AND IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT I THINK WHAT'S AROUND IT, IT'S THAT AND USED THEIR SO MUCH PARKING AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PARKING, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH LONG. LONG LONG LINES OF PARKING RIGHT IF YOU HAVE THIS LONG LINE OF BUILDING AND THIS LONG LINE OF PARKING. WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE DO? YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY FROM THE S O YOU'RE LOOKING AND SAYING THAT FROM THE COSTCO SIDE RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT A STRAIGHT LINE OF DRIVEWAY. RIGHT EVER. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WEDDING RIGHT UP AT THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT. AT A STRAIGHT LONG LINE WITH A WALKWAY. I THINK THROUGH IT. THAT'S NOT A THAT'S ALL GREEN. THAT'S ALL GREEN.

BUT IT'S WHAT ABOUT 50 FT. NO, THAT'S ABOUT. BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THE YOU KNOW THE TREE, THE TREE AREA BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. WHAT'S THE WITH THEIR 50 FT, RIGHT. THOSE OF OTHER WIT. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 300 FT, BUT IT'S 50 FT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THIS LONG HAUL OF POORER, YOU KNOW, JUST MEAN. I'D LIKE TO JUST ECHO THAT. I THINK IT'S ABOUT PRACTICALITY MORE THAN STYLE, ALTHOUGH I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY DO BETTER ON STYLE.

BUT IF YOU LIVE IN THE. LIKE, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS FEEL SO THAT IT'S THAT IT'S NOT APARTMENTS SURROUNDED BY AN ISLAND OF PARKING LOT THAT THEY HAVE TOE DANGEROUSLY WALK THROUGH IN ORDER TO YOU KNOW, GET THROUGH THEIR GATE AND THEN GET ONTO A ROAD THAT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, MAYBE LET'S SAY THEY WANT TO GO TO THESE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE UP HERE. YOU KNOW, LIKE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT IT FEELS LIKE. LET'S LET'S MAKE IT ONE THAT FEELS LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT LIKE A STRIP MALL. WE WOULD HAVE. AND ACTIVITY FAVORS, ETCETERA. SO THE CHALLENGE IS, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET PEOPLE PARK. AND SO WE LIKE TO PUT IT ON ONE SIDE SO WE COULD GIVE CREATE THE OTHER SIDE ALL GREEN. SEE THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND IT'S LIKE BUILDING WITH PARKING. SORRY. DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT. I MEAN, EAST. THESE FOLKS ARE ALL ON A BIG. GREEN AREA. JUST BUILDING HAS A LOT OF GREEN ON THREE SIDES. THIS BUILDING HAS GREEN. SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF CONSOLIDATE THE PARKING. ONE SIDE INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ALL AWAY. EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE THINNER. IT'S. LIKE THERE WAS A PLAN ONCE WHERE WE HAD PARKING UP HERE. WANTED TO REDUCE THIS A BIT. I WAS LIKE. DON'T LIKE

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WONDERFUL OKAY, SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE EMOTION WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. TAKE A CRACK IT. I GOT A QUICK QUESTION. KEVIN. YOU GOT ONE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE ON OUR PROVED CORRECT THAT COVERS BOTH LAND USE AND. SAFETY YOU DID? YES, REFERENCE TO THAT MOTION ALONE IS ENCOMPASSING THAT, RIGHT? YES, WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE BOARD THAT GAVE ANY SPECIFIC REQUEST OUTSIDE OF JUST GENERAL. COULD I MAKE A SUGGESTION HOW THIS MAY BE FRAMED? YES, SIR. I'M HEARING THE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT. CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THE FIRST BEING MORE OF A CONNECTED. COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY URBAN DESIGNED. LAYOUT WITH A VARIATION OF ARCHITECTURAL, MAYBE BUILDING STYLES. BETTER CONNECTED TO BOTH CAN IT ON AND WILL BE UM. INCORPORATING FULL TIME MODEL CONNECTIONS. FOR THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT. INCREASING SHADE TREE PLANTING IN THE PARKING AREAS. UM. ON THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LAKES ON THE. FORM OF THOSE LEGS. THERE'S WITH THEM.

THREE MAJOR AREAS THAT I YEAH. TAKE AWAY FROM THIS. THAT ONE'S GOOD. AND IN TERMS OF WETLANDS MITIGATION. OH JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR WETLANDS. WELL, THAT WOULD BE YES. ON BY THE AFRICAN THING, OBVIOUSLY IS AWARE THERE'S A CONDITION IN THE BEAUTY THAT THEY WILL NEED TO MAKE. REPRESENTATION OF HOW THEY CALCULATED THIS TO ENSURE THAT. WHEN IT MOVES FORWARD THAT WAY, HAVE MORE DETAIL ON THAT. THEY DO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY CALCULATIONS, AND WE COULD ASK THAT TO BE. MORE FORMAL. FULL COMMISSION. ISRAELI FULL FOUR POINTS IS ONE TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN, ARCHITECTURE AND LAYOUT. TO LOOK AT THE CONNECTIVITY. THREE TO LOOK AT THE PARKING AND THE ARRANGEMENT OF PARKING AND THE SHADE TREES WITHIN THAT PARKING.

AND FOUR TO LOOK AT THE CALCULATIONS FOR MITIGATION. NO. WHAT I INTEND TO DO IS IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS. BARS. THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE SURE YOU GET SOMETHING IN MERELY GOING TO REFERENCE. BOTH BOARD COMMENTS, WHICH ARE OF RECORD AND KEVIN'S COMMENTS AT THE END, SO ALL RIGHT, BUT, UH. IS THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER. 4662 0 TO ZERO BEFORE THE BOARD. ALONG WITH THE STAFF COMMENT, AS WELL AS THE BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS. OF RECORD. ANYBODY. 2ND 2ND. OKAY? COMING. PUBLIC TALENT ON THE MOST COMMON ON THE MOTION. EMOTION, WOZ. BASICALLY TAKE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE STATED PARTICULARLY THEY FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS. THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WHILE MOVING FORWARD. SINCE IT'S GOING TO GO STRAIGHT INTO PERMANENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN. SOME METAL ABSOLUTELY SCHOOL DISTRICT. YES, FOR SURE. PLEASE ADD THAT. YES. AS A

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TONIGHT YOU'RE VOTING TO BASICALLY MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH YOUR LP APPROVAL, ASSUMING EVERYBODY VOTES AND MAJORITY HERE, BASED ON THE CORN THAT YOU HAVE SO THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CAN REVIEW WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A FINAL SITE PLAN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAY AND MAY NOT ACTUALLY HOLD THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE ALL PROVIDED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THIS TO YOU, MR STRAHM. WHERE IT ACTUALLY STATES THAT IT'S A LOW DENSITY THAT WAS APPROVED. IT'S FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE, SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT THEY PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH THE CONVOLUTION OF TWO SEPARATE PARCELS THAT THEY HAVE COMBINED FOR THE PURPOSES OF GETTING THIS APPROVED FOR DENSITY ALONE WITH MATH. BUT THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING THIS EVENING AND MY UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. I THINK IT'S A VERY CONDITIONAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I EVERYBODY HERE UNDERSTANDS THAT WHAT IS BEING APPROVED IS THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE BEING PUT TOGETHER FOR THE PURPOSES OF GETTING AROUND A DENSITY ISSUE. AND GETTING AROUND THE PURPOSES OF THE MITIGATION FOR THE WATER IN THE BUFFERS SO THAT ONE SITE PLAN CAN BE SUBMITTED IN MY UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. THE COMMISSION IS WELL. THE BOARD IS WELCOME TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T GET INTO A DEBATE DURING I DON'T NEED A DEBATE ABOUT IT. I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.

MAYBE WE SHOULD REPEAT THE MOTION. I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I THINK WHAT MR MARTEL IS SAYING IS THAT WE CANNOT DO A BACK AND FORTH. I UNDERSTAND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM UNDERSTANDING IT. SO THE TWO PARCELS THAT WERE COMBINED FOR THE PURPOSES WHO WERE BEFORE THERE WAS A CANOPY YOU D THAT WAS FOR COSTCO AND A P UT THAT WAS FOR THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT ARE NOW COMBINED FOR ONE APPROVAL, WHICH MINIMIZES THE DENSITY AS WELL AS THE BUFFERS IN MY UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY.

YOU. WE CANNOT ANSWER THAT. THAT IS NOT FOR MY UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I THINK I'M RIGHT. THANK YOU. TO THEM ABOUT CONFLICT. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO GO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. OKAY? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND PHILIP GREEN CARD WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED. I'LL GET IT FOR, YOU. JUST YEAH. IT WAS VERY LEE'S ART. AND ON THAT FIVE ACRES AND QUESTION MY DAUGHTER AND HER HUSBAND AND GRANDCHILDREN LIVE. AND I, UH.

WATCH THIS AND I'VE SEEN EVERYBODY KIND OF IGNORED. WHEN THEY PUT THAT MEDIUM IN POOR SPLASH PARK. AND YOU COULD SEE THE DIRT DRIVE GOING INTO MY DAUGHTER'S PLACE. PUT THE MEDIUM IN THERE. NO REGARDS TO THEIR DRIVE. THEY PUT THE PLAN WE ADDRESSING THIS EXISTING PROJECT BECAUSE THAT HAD HAS TO RETIRE BACK INTO THIS EXISTING PROJECT THIS PROJECT AFTER DR.

THAT I YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THING. IT'S SELFISH, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA IT'S GONNA BE REFERENCED THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE IT. RIGHT WHERE MY DAUGHTER, HER HUSBAND AND MY GRANDSON HAS GOT TO DO A U TURN. COME BACK TO THEIR DRIVER. EVERY DAY. RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAP. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR WELL BEING AND MAKING A U TURN WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA PUT A LIGHT THERE. I DON'T KNOW. OF YOUR LIGHT AT SPLASH PART AND THERE. I'M NOT SURE. THE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND HAD DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE. CONTRADICT OF INTEREST. YOU'RE IN BUSINESS WITH COSTCO. A FEW OF YOUR MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. HOSKO HERE CLOSER FOR YOUR SHOPPING. CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS CARS ON THE CHEST. THANK YOU. MR MARTEL, CAN YOU SPEAK TO IF THAT, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IS CONSIDERED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? I REVIEWED? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ALL OVER THERE GOES, I REVIEWED. SOME ETHICS OPINIONS PRIOR TO THE COSTCO MATTER COMING FORWARD, BECAUSE I ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE THAT WERE MEMBERS OF COSTCO, AND THERE'S SEVERAL ATTORNEY ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS AS IT RELATES. TO COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE MEMBERS OF CLUBS AND COUNTRY CLUBS AND OTHER TYPES OF FORMS. THEY DIDN'T FIND COSTCO IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT SAID THE MEMBERSHIP IN A CLUB IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. EVEN WHERE. IT WAS A COMMISSIONER THAT WAS AN EQUITY MEMBER OF A COUNTRY CLUB WITH THE

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