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APART. THEY'RE THE SERIOUS SKEWERED. THIS MAY 24TH 2021. WE'RE HERE FOR REGULAR MEETING OFF THE STEWARD CITY COMMISSION. STUART CITY HALL, 1 21 SELF WAS FLAGLER AVENUE. DO YOU WANT FLORIDA? UM. CITY CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? MAYOR CLARKE? YES, I SMEAR MATHESON PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES, DONALD HERE? COMMISSIONER MEYER HERE. SCAM FOR THE PLEASURE OF RELIGIONS. REMEMBER THOSE IN TROUBLE? LET US THINK, ESPECIALLY AS OUR OF OUR TROOPS. AND PRESENT AS WE APPROACHED MEMORIAL DAY. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED TODAY BY OUR VICE MAYOR MERIT MATHESON. LIKE THE LEGIONS YOU SAY SOMETHING? WHICH IS WHAT ALL RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD TEAMS MUST THIS SCROLL. FIRST ITEM IS
[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]
COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. MICHELE BRUNA. I HAVE NONE. SHOULD MCDONALD I HAVE NONE.MISSION OF MYRRH. HAVE DONE THIS EVENING, MADAME MAYOR. MR MATHESON. HMM. I HAVE A FEW.
GOOD BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A PLOT THAT EVERYTHING WAS GONNA BE ALL ME AND I HAVE ENOUGH. THIS IS MY TIME I CAN SPEAK. THAT'S IT. AS WE SIT UP HERE TODAY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING INCREDIBLY TOUGH DECISIONS. THAT IMPACT EVERYONE'S FUTURE. IT MUST BE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT OPINIONS FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND PROFESSIONALS. WE DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING AND WE JUST DISMISS IT. AS A STUDY WAS INCORRECT A WRONG THEN WE AS A SOCIETY MAY NEVER COME TO AGREE ON ANYTHING. COMMISSIONER'S JOB IS TO DEAL IN THAT GRAY AREA.
WAY ALL THE FAX. AS WELL AS INPUT FROM THE TAXPAYERS AS WE WORK. FOR AND DECIDE IF CHANGES ARE JUSTIFIED. AS A COMMISSION. WE MUST REMEMBER WE'RE ON LEE AS STRONG IF WE WORK TOGETHER.
TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I'M BECOMING MORE AND MORE CONCERNED. ABOUT THE INCREASED GROWTH RATE OF OUR CITY AS WELL. AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING COUNTY. WOULD LIKE.
TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER OVER A FUTURE WORKSHOP. AS WELL. IN THIS WORKSHOP. I'M INTERESTED.
DISCUSSING FORM BASED CODE. ALONG SOME CRITICAL AREAS SUCH AS THE U. S ONE CORRIDOR. FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. I ASKED MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE PATIENCE. AND FOR US TO TAKE THE TIME TO PROPERLY ASK QUESTIONS AND DELIBERATE. NO, WE DON'T ALL WANT TO FOLLOW OUR HEARTS TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY. IS A LARGE PROJECT AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE CAN ALL SIT AND DISCUSS THE APPLICATION BEFORE US. WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO EXAMINE ANY PROPOSED CONDITIONS. AND FOR PROPER TIME. WOULD BE ALLOWED TO JUSTIFY THEM. THAT IS ALL MADAME MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR. BRAVERY AND BREVITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. MM.
NOTHING ABOUT THE LEG TONIGHT. WAIT UNTIL THE RAIN STOPS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS PAST WEEK MADE THE 20TH. THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT OR COMMISSION APPROVED A RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE HISTORY OF WHEN. PERSONS WERE ENSLAVED
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IN FLORIDA IN 18 65. WE'RE TOLD THAT SLAVERY HAD ENDED. WE HAD A PROGRAM THIS PAST THURSDAY WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSION THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY TO DO THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT PERSON'S ATTENDED AND WE'RE ENLIGHTENED.AND I APPRECIATE IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY COMMISSION AGAIN AND TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS WHO CAME OUT AND THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY WENT PARTICIPATED. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE. VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR GOING FORWARD IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S ALL ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT.
CULTURE AND HOW WE TRY TOE WORK WITH THE PLACE THAT WE LIVE, AND I THINK WE LIVE IN A SLICE OF PARADISE HERE. AND EACH TIME WE MAKE CHANGES. THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT THEIR CONCERNS WHEN PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIVE HERE 20 YEARS AGO OR EVEN 20 DAYS AGO. THEY'RE ALWAYS CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE THINGS. BUT WE HAVE TO USE OUR TIME AND OUR MINDS WISELY AS WELL AS LOOK AT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND SEE HOW WE CAN BEST MOVE FORWARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANT US ALL TO OBSERVE. WHAT WE CALL THE RULES OF CIVILITY. I'M NOT SURE OF THE RULES ARE ON THE. ON THE BOARD AS YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST SAY THAT. WE WANT THE PLEDGE OF CIVILITIES THAT WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. AND AS ABRAM LINCOLN WOULD SAY. POLITENESS COSTS SO LITTLE SO PLEASE BE POLITE.
ADDRESS YOURSELF TO US. DON'T LOOK BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE. THIS IS OUR FUTURE. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. WE WANT TO GIVE IT OUR ALL OR BEST THOUGHTS OR BEST IDEAS. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST ANSWERS FOR YOU. AS YOU SHOW YOUR CONCERNS TODAY.
THAT IS WHY YOU'RE HERE AND WE'RE OPEN TO HEAR. ALL SIDES. UM THAT IS MY COMMENT. I JUST WANT AGAIN, ESPECIALLY THANK OR CITY MANAGER. FIRE CHIEF OR POLICE CHIEF AND THOSE WHO WERE IN THE BACKGROUND HELPING OUT WITH THAT PROGRAM LAST THURSDAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD TURN OUT. BUT WE'RE GLAD THAT OUR COMMUNITY. WAS PEACEFUL, WAS JOYFUL AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENTS OR JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM. THANK YOU. SPEAKING OF OUR CITY MANAGER. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE STAR OF THE SHOW, AND HE'S GOING TO BE IN TONIGHT. WHY ME? COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER? NOTHING, MAN.
MADAM. NO COMMENTS. NO WAY. HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. COMMISSIONER MEYER VICE MAYOR,
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I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE AGENDA, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COME, BUT THERE'S A SMALL SCRIBNER'S AIR. JUST ON THE SUMMARY BACKGROUND OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. NOT ON THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION ITSELF. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED FOR THAT TO BE POINTED OUT. WHEN I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER THREE. JUST ASK SOME QUESTIONS, WHICH I'VE STUFF, BUT I'LL JUST PUT THEM ON THE RECORD. THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, PULLING ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR.JUST YES, A FEW THINGS. YES. IT'S A PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. DID YOU ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? HOW'S THAT, SIR? JASPER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THERE. THAT WAS THE TROUBLE OF GENUINE SIMON. I'M SORRY, OKAY? SO THE RULE OF THE GARDEN
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PUBLIC COMMENT IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. ON ANY MATTER. I BASICALLY ANYTHING BUT MOSTLY ON ANY MATTER. THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A CAN OF HIGHWAY CPD COSTCO. AND IF YOU WANT. THEY'LL HAVE TO GIVE THEIR COMMENTS NOW WHERE THEY CAN GIVE COMMENTS LATER. ON MR MARTEL HADN'T MADE IT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD. BUT THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS NORMALLY AFTER APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA WOULD BE NON MAN AGENDA ITEMS. YOU GUYS APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA IN THAT MOTION. SO IT APPEARS THAT YOU'VE PULLED THREE AND FOUR FROM THE AGENDA. WELL, I'M SORRY. SO THE FEW THAT I ADDED TO THE BACK HERE, WE'RE NOT AGENDA ITEMS. WELL JUST HIS PUBLIC WILL HOLD THREE AND FOUR FROM THE CONSENT TO JENNA AGENDA WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. YOU'RE APPROVING[00:10:07]
THE AGENDA, INCLUDING CONSENT AGENDA, SO YOU DON'T WANT THREE AND FOUR IN THE IN THAT AREA, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THREE AND FOUR. NORMALLY THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU GET TO CONSENT AGENDA AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YES. WE'LL BRING UP NUMBER THREE AND FOUR, THEN. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I MADE A MISTAKE. JUST FOR THINK YOU SHOULD THE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW WOULD BE A NON AGENDA DIED OF A NUN AGENDA ITEM, SO JUST TO BE SURE. MISS GWENDOLYN HALL, BRINKLEY. MISS LIZ CAUTION ER MISS KAREN HALL. MISS MAZZELLO WILL WILLIAMS, DO YOU JUST KNOW SHE HAS IT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SO I'M GONNA LET THAT STAY ON JULY THE NUMBER FOUR GOALS. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT. YOUR COMMENT ON NONE. AGENDA ITEMS. IF IT IS, THEN I'LL ASK THIS GWENDOLYN HALL BRINGS IT TO COME FORWARD. EVENING, EVERYBODY. GOOD EVENING, MAYBE. GIVEN RESPECT TO THE PODIUM. UM I'M TRYING TO PULL UP MY NOTES BECAUSE I DID MAKE SOME. I STAND HERE TODAY AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMAND. THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. A CITY'S STAFF. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE CITY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE US SPECIAL. THANK YOU. THE MAYOR CLARKE. ON HER LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE.INDIA MASSIVE PATIENT PROGRAM. I THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE STORE IT ON THURSDAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING. ABOUT WAYS TO COMMUNICATE. TO THE CITIZENS OF THE STORE. WAS PLEASED WITH THE TURNOUT. BECAUSE THE WORD GOT OUT. ON WHATEVER AND HOWEVER, YOU GOT THAT WORD OUT? I'M ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT. SO THE CITIZENS WOULD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THAT THEY WILL BE INVOLVED. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY.
GIVEN THE KEY TO THE CITY. MR GARY. TO ME. THAT WAS US. BECAUSE MR GARRETT HAS BEEN A FIGURE IN EAST STEWART AND THE CITY OF STUART. FOR A LONG TIME. HE IS TO GO. SO ONCE AGAIN. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO COME UP AND LET YOU ALL KNOW. HAS BEEN ONE OF YOUR CRITICS THAT I RECOGNIZE. DIFFERENCE IN THE PROGRAM ON SET ON THURSDAY. RECOGNIZED THE DIFFERENCE AND THE ATTENDANCE. AND ABOUT WARHEAD. WOULD TILT IT TO YOU. AMEN THANK YOU FORCEFULLY. WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR MISS LISK ARE SURE TO COME UP. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE THE CHAIRPERSON OF OUR BOARD OF CHRONIC COMMISSIONS WITH US. MISSIONARY STACY HEATHERINGTON. 17 PUT OKAY. SHE'S IN THE BACK THERE IN THE GREEN. THANKS. LIZ KERR SCHNUR.
YES AND I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T ASK THIS OF THE FIRST PERSON. BUT IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS FOR US, AND THEN SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MIC. THANK YOU. LIST KIRSHNER. I LIVE IN 5581 SOUTHEAST GRAFT AND HAVING STUART. BEEN RESIDENT OF THIS COUNTY. PRETTY MUCH MY WHOLE LIFE MOVED HERE BACK IN LIKE THE EARLY EIGHTIES. UM WELL, I WAS LITTLE, BUT. GROWING UP IN LIVING IN THIS AREA. JOBS ARE HARD THING TO COME BY. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY GETTING A JOB THAT'S LIVING WAGES TOE LIVE IN THIS COUNTY IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. THEREFORE COSTCO COMING IN IS GOING TO BRING JOBS. IT'S GOING TO BRING LIVING WAGES FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COUNTY SO THAT YOU DON'T NEED FIVE PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A HOME JUST. PAY THE BILL. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING. THERE'S ALSO HOUSING THAT'S GOING IN. I THINK THAT'S AWESOME AS WELL. SO MY VOTES. YES. I MEAN, JUST. KNOWING AND LIVING IN THIS AREA AND NEEDING LIVING WAGES. I'M THE. PERSON IN OUR HOME THAT DOES THAT, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS STRUGGLING. SO THINK COSTCO IS A GREAT THING. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION.
SO THANK YOU, MISS QUESTIONER. HAVEN'T THANK YOU. WE ALLOWED YOU TO SPEAK BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU'D SPEAK NOT ON AN AGENDA ITEM. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MS KAREN HALL. THIS
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IS A NON AGENDA ITEMS. ENORMOUS HALL IS ON THE LAND IN SOMEWHERE. IT'S KAREN HALL.CHIEF THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT'S KAREN HALL. ON A NUN AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU. MISS HALL IS NOT PRESENT. LET'S MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO TO BE
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APPROVED FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. MOVED BACK. COMMISSIONER MCDONALD SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR MATHESON ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. OKAY. YEAH, WE DO BECAUSE THERE'S A MONEY UNITED NUMBER TWO UM, CLERK BY THEM CLERK. GARDEN ITEMS WANTED TO ROLL CALL. OKAY? YEAH, LET'S HAVE A HOLD ON. IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS. WANTING TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ADAM'S ONE AND TWO.PARK ROLL CALL VICE MAYOR MATHESON YES, COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES COMMISSIONER.
MCDONALD MAYOR CLARKE. YES, MR MEYER? YES. ADAM, NUMBER THREE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICE
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PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT AGREEMENT YEAR TWO (2) (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 53-2021; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE YEAR TWO (2) OF THE THREE (3) YEAR 50% MATCHING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR ACTIVE TRAM MARKETING PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND OTHER PURPOSES.
]DEVELOPMENT GRANT. YEAR, TOO. RESOLUTION NUMBER 53 2021 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE YEAR TWO OF THE THREE YEAR 50% PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR ACTIVE TRAM MARKET IN PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND OTHER PURPOSES. I THINK I PULLED THIS ITEM IS THAT THE ONE YOU PUT ON THIS VICE MAYOR? THE ONE YOU PULLED, MADAM, OKAY, I PULLED THIS BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO HAVE ON THE RECORD THAT I'VE ASKED THESE. THESE THINGS ARE. COMPLICATED AND LONG TO READ SOMETIMES. WHAT THEY DO REFER TO SEVERAL FEDERAL POLICIES, WHICH THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO OBSERVE AND DEAL WITH WITH REGARD TO DISADVANTAGE. BUSINESS ENTERPRISE D B E.
REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. I WANTED TO CHECK WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IF WE DO HAVE ANY DB IS REGISTERED OR IF WE DO HAVE A METHODOLOGY. HAVE THEM REGISTERED WITH THE CITY. WITH REGARD TO THE CONVICTED VENDOR LIST WITH UNDER FLORIDA STATUS TO 87 POINT ALL 17 AND ALSO THE DISCRIMINATION VENDOR LISTS ON THE FLORIDA STATUTES TO 87.134.
UM AND ALSO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER. 20-44 REGARDING SOLE SOURCE FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENTS THAT IF WE DO HAVE ALL OF THESE METHODOLOGIES IN PLACE. ENSURE THAT WELL WILL BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THIS SECTION OF THE TRANSIT GRAND FOR THIS SUM.
SECOND YEAR OUT OF THE THREE YEAR. UM, AREA SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SIGNING. IF WE IF WE FULLY APPROVE IT UNDER ITEM 12 D F. IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING WITH REGARD TO THE ACTUAL, UM RESOLUTION AND AGREEMENT. WITH REGARD TO THE D B E POLICY AGAIN. I ASKED THAT WE HAVE A LIST ON. YOU ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS. WE WENT TO THE CDBG ITEM THAT WAS SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS AND CHECK WITH MS NA NA FLOW. WHO'S OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT, AND WE DO HAVE AND FOLLOW THOSE PROCEDURES. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, THAT THIS IS A RELATION TO IF WE WERE. CONTRACTING OUT OUR SERVICE. WE HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL TRAM SERVICE, SO NONE OF THIS WOULD APPLY TO US. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT ON THE RECORD. YES, MAN WHO FOR APPROVAL. 2ND 2ND. OKAY UM THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ARE THERE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? ADAM KIRK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? COMMISSIONER MYERS. YES, COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER BRUNER? YES? SMEAR MATHESON. YEAH, THERE, CLARK? YES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR CHILDREN
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CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL GRANT AMENDMENT (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 56-2021; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO ACCEPT A GRANT AMENDMENT OF THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF MARTIN COUNTY (CSCMC) IN THE AMOUNT OF $94,954.00 FOR THE EAST STUART YOUTH INITIATIVE PROGRAM; IF APPROVED, AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE AND EXPENDITURE OF THE CSCMC AMENDED GRANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]SERVICES COMES TO GRANT AMENDMENT RESOLUTION NUMBER 56 SESSIONS. 2021 RESOLUTION RESOLUTION. THE CITY COMMISSION THE CITY OF STUART AUTHORIZING, COMING TO SERVICES DEPARTMENT, EXCEPT TO GRANT AMENDMENT OF THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL, MARTIN COUNTY. IN THE AMOUNT OF 94905TH. FOR THE EASTER YOUTH INITIATIVE PROGRAM, IF APPROVED, AND AUTHORIZING
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THE ACCEPTANCE AND EXPENDITURE OF THE. MARTIN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL AMENDED GRANT PROVIDING FOR INEFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, ADVICE. HERE, MADAM.ERIC PULLED THIS JUST TO CORRECT A SMALL SCRIPTURES THERE. I WILL MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 56 TEST 2020 JUST POINTING OUT AND ASKING FOR THE CORRECTION IN THE SUMMARY, NOT ON THE AGENDA. OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT. FROM THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL.
THERE'S TWO NUMBERS. 378,000. AND IN THE SAME REFERENCE TO THE SAME RESOLUTION, 379,008.
THANK YOU IN THE COMMENTS ON THE BOARD. IT'S A PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. WELL, WHICH IS THE CORRECT NUMBER. YES STAFF CAN JUST TELL US 19. SO THE SUMMER HAS TO OUR 3 79 OR DREARY 7 79.
OKAY I'LL SECOND THE MOTION IS YOUR EMOTION. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT CLEARLY LOOKS LIKE A SCRIPTURES. ERIC'S REFERENCE TO DIFFERENT PLACES, THE THINGS THEY'RE CAUGHT BEFORE. THE AGENDA WENT OUT, BUT IT HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH SO WE DIDN'T REVISE IT. BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY I THINK WE WERE GONNA BRING IT UP ANYWAY, WITH JIM TALK TO ME ABOUT IT WAS AWARE OF IT. WELL, I'VE NEVER BEEN TOLD THIS, BUT PERHAPS THAT WAS MY EAGLE EYE THAT CAUGHT IT. UM.
THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT VICE MAYOR LINE SQUIRREL. EVERYONE SMALL GETS LUCKY. I AM. IS THERE EMOTION? YES YOU DON'T PROVE WITH THE CORRECT IN A SECOND. THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. OKAY? WE HAVE A COMMENT. ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY MAZZELLA WILLIAMS. OH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARCELLA WILLIAMS AND I LIVE AT 810, SOUTH EAST 15TH STREET AND STUART AND, UM I JUST WANTED. TO ASKED THAT IF I JUST WANT TO EGGS BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE THAT IF APPROVED THE AUTHORIZED THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT, YOU KNOW. DID. AMENDMENT GRANT IS PROVIDED WITH THE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES, AND I JUST WANT TO ACT IF THE. AMENDMENT CAN BE USED LIKE FOR LANDSCAPING LIKE THE PARK. I THINK IT'S ON EAST 10TH STREET.
IS THAT. IS THAT THE CHILDREN'S COUNSEL'S SAYS THE. CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF MARTIN COUNTY ON EAST STUART. SO WHAT THAT B E. STEWART ON 10TH STREET? THOMAS ACROSS KEY BECAUSE YOU JUST GIVE US SUMMARY AGAIN. OFF. WHAT? THIS. GRAND FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S YES DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. YES, MA'AM, UM, THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS JUST HOUSEKEEPING ADDITION FOR US TO BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE.
BECAUSE THE CHILDREN SERVICES COUNCIL'S BUDGET. HAS CHANGED FROM THERE. CYCLE TO OUR FISCAL YEAR, SO THAT RESIDUAL AMOUNT THAT IS INDICATED IN THIS IS SIMPLY TO LET THE COMMISSION NO AND THE PUBLIC KNOW. THAT AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY COMMISSION. IN THE LAST PAYMENT FOR OUR FIFTH SCHOOL YEAR THAT STARTS ON OCTOBER ONE, SO IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. STARR BUDGET PER SE FOR WHAT IT WAS ADOPTED FOR, BUT IT WAS ADOPTED SPECIFICALLY TO RUN THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. SO FAR, IT COULD BE AMENDED FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, SO IT WOULDN'T COULDN'T BE USED FOR LIKE LANDSCAPING ON A BEAUTIFUL NO MAN, ARIEL. NO, BUT WE DO HAVE A MAJOR PROJECT COMING UP FOR THAT 10TH STREET CENTER. THAT WILL BE GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND DOING PUBLIC INPUT SESSION WITH. OKAY, BECAUSE I JUST HAD THIS IDEA THAT WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER TIME. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME TO THAT MEETING AND SHARE THAT IDEA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU ANY MORE COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
OKAY. WE HAVE EMOTION IN THE SECOND. MADAM CLERK. MICHENER, BRUNER. THIS VICE MAYOR MATHESON? YES COMMISSIONER MACDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER MEYER? YES. MAYOR CLARKE? YES? UM. WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES AND SECOND READING. WE HAVEN'T ORDINANCE AND FIRST REDAN ON
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KANNER HIGHWAY CPUD - COSTCO (RC):
ORDINANCE No. 2466-2021; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEREBY ASSIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF “NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT” TO THE 49+/- ACRE PROPERTY, OWNED BY NEHME HOLDINGS, LLC AND WILLOUGHBY GROUP, LLC LOCATED ALONG SR-76 KANNER HIGHWAY, SOUTH OF MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL AND ABUTTING LYCHEE TREE NURSERY; SAID LAND, ANNEXED BY ORDINANCE No. 2327-2016 AND ORDINANCE No. 2337-2017, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; AND CONCURRENTLY ASSIGNING “CPUD” ZONING TO SAID LAND ON THE CITY’S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP; ESTABLISHING THE KANNER CPUD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF 162,020 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, BULK MERCHANDISE, AND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICES BUILDING FOOTPRINT WITH A STAND ALONE KIOSK AND FUEL FACILITY, 398 RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT PADS PROVIDING FOR APPROVAL OF A MASTER SITE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIMETABLE OF DEVELOPMENT; DECLARING THE PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PROVIDING FOR ACCEPTANCE BY THE APPLICANT AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]BEFORE THE, UM. EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER HE CAN MAKE A CHOICE BEFORE THE CITY ATTORNEY. WHILE
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THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES ITS PART IN PRESENTING THE ACTUAL TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL ALSO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC. THE ROLE OF THE INTERVENER WHEN THEY'LL BE CALLED AND, UM. WHATEVER ELSE THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS ON THIS MATTER. I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO BE SHORT WINDED, SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE MUCH. OKAY YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ THE ORDINANCE FIRST, I'D BE HAPPY TO OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DISCUSS THE INTERVENER FIRST? MM. REED. ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 66-20 TO 1 IN ORDER TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THERE BY ASSIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. THE 49 PLUS ACRE PROPERTY. OWNED BY NIIMI HOLDINGS LLC. AND WILL BE GROUP LOC LOCATED ALONG STATE ROAD 76 CANTOR HIGHWAY SOUTH OF MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL AND A BUDDING LEE CHEE TREE NURSEY.NURSERY SAID LAND ANNEXED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 23272 OH 16 AND ORDINANCE TO 3372 OH 17 BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A ATTACHED. CONCURRENTLY ASSIGNING CPD ZONING TO SET LAND ON THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP. ESTABLISHING THE CANDOR. CPD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 162,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, BOTH MERCHANDISE AND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. THEY STAND ALONE KIOSK AND FUEL FACILITY 398 RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT PADS, PROVIDING FOR APPROVAL OF A MASTER SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIMETABLE OF DEVELOPMENT. PLAYING THE PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CITIES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY. KURT CLERK REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH WRITING SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE RUNNING FOR AN ACCEPTANCE BY THE APPLICANT. AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES AS IT RELATES TO THE PROCEEDING TONIGHT, IT'S CALLED A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. AS SUCH, THE CITY COMMISSION SITS AS A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD. IT IS THEIR JOB TO WEIGH EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE PARTY TO DETERMINE IF THE PARTY HAS MET THE CODE SUFFICIENTLY TO BE ENTITLED TO DEVIATE FROM. LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS HAS SET FORTH IN THE CODE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN A PD APPLICATION OR QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING TAKES PLACE, THE CODE ALSO PROVIDES FOR AND IT'S NOT MANDATORY BUT ALLOWS. AND ANY INTERESTED PARTY TO FILE AND PARTICIPATE AS AN INTERVENER.
INDICATE RICHARDS HAS FILED TO BE AN INTERVENER IN THIS ACTION HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS SUCH AS A RESULT. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TWO. PRESENT HER CASE. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO CROSS EXAMINE WITNESSES PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT AND SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO PRESENT HER OWN WITNESSES AND TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE. RELATED TO HER POSITION ON THE CASE. WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO FOLLOW AN ASSEMBLAGE OF KIND OF THE WAY IT COURT SYSTEM WOULD DO IT LIKE WHEN A WITNESS TALKS THAN THE OTHER SIDE CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS AND GO BACK AND FORTH. HOWEVER, THE RULES OF EVIDENCE DO NOT APPLY TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS STRICT OR A STRINGENT AS YOU MIGHT SEE A COURT DO, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE SAY. HE'S LIKE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE A AZIZ MANDATED. HOWEVER, EACH SIDE DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP THEIR OWN RECORD IN CASE THIS MATTER DOES GET REVIEWED IN THE FUTURE, AND EACH SIDE HAS THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE PRESENTATIONS AS THEY GO FORWARD. I'VE PREPARED OF THE CITY HAS A DIRECT A SHEET OR A SUMMARY SHEET OF THE PROCEDURE. IN WHICH THE MATTER WILL BE CALLED. I PROVIDED THAT TO MISS RICHARDS LAST WEEK. ESSENTIALLY OKAY? CITY STAFF WILL PRESENT THE ITEM. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR CASE IN CHIEF AND THEIR POSITION ON THE CASE AS THEY CALL WITNESSES. THE INTERVENING WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THOSE WITNESSES QUESTIONS. AND THEN WHEN THAT IS FINISHED. THE SAME WILL GO FOR THE INTERVIEW, NOR SHALL BE ALLOWED TO PRESENT HER CASE AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME THE UM. APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS. AND THEN WHEN BOTH CASES ARE FINISHED. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL. MAKE A MOTION MOTION WILL BE EITHER. TO APPROVE OR TO DIE, DENY OR LACK OF EMOTION WILL CAUSE IT TO FAIL IF EMOTION HAPPENS. THEN. WILL BE A BASIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND JUST BEFORE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. AFTER HEARING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THE CITY COMMISSION WILL PUBLICLY DELIBERATE THEIR OPINIONS BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, AND ULTIMATELY THE MATTER. WE CALLED TO A VOTE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HAPPEN ON MAY 24TH. BECAUSE IT'LL BE BEFORE 12. I THINK THAT COVERS IT. THANK
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YOU. CITY CITY ATTORNEY. UM. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN EXPORTED COMMUNICATION TO DISCLOSE COMMISSION BRUNER. RIGHT. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH BOTH SIDES PRO AND. ANTI COSTCO AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE LAWYERS. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE PLANNERS. I'VE SPOKEN. TO ON OUR SIDE, THE LAWYER, OUR MANAGER AND STAFF, AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. THANK YOU. IT'S ABOUT DONALD. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT IN HIS CONSULTANTS ON TWO OR THREE OCCASIONS HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE INTERVENER. I'VE SPOKEN WITH CITY STAFF ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. I'VE SPOKEN WITH NUMEROUS RESIDENTS AND EVERY SEEMED MORE EMAILS THAT I CAN COUNT ON THIS FROM FROM THIS CONSIDERING BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. THANK YOU. AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. MADAM MAYOR OF SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT. THE STAFF INVOLVING THE APPLICATION. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE INTERVENER. MULTIPLE TIMES. AND. MULTIPLE CITY RESIDENTS AND COUNTY RESIDENTS. I'VE LOST A LOT OF SLEEP OVER THE ISSUE. AND I DO HAVE AN OPEN MIND. YOU GONNA SHOOT MAYER? I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT AND THERE. AM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE INTERVENER I'VE SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN WITH STAFF. AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. THANK YOU. I HAVE, UM. SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND WITH ATTORNEYS AND WITH RESIDENTS AND RESPONDED TO SOME OF THE E MAILS DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO EVERYONE. I'VE EVEN RESPONDED ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT THAT THEY'VE BEEN SENT TO ME FOR SOME PEOPLE. AND I JUST, UM. LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATION AND HERE AND MORE INPUT FROM THOSE ARE HERE TODAY, AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. UM. BEFORE WE PUT THE FOUR WE SWEAR WE'LL ACTUALLY. WHEN THE STUFF SO I'LL SAY SOMETHING. GO ON, MR MORTAL, PLEASE SWEAR THE, UM THE POTENTIAL WITNESSES AND PUT THEM UNDER OATH. WELL, ALL OF THOSE WITNESSES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THE APPLICANT AND THE INTERVIEWER, PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN. THE RECORD REFLECT THAT 4564 10 11 12 THAT YOU GOT TWO OUT. 13 14 PEOPLE BEING SWORN DUE TO THE NATURE IN THE VOLUME OF THE PEOPLE BEING SWORN. I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WHEN YOU TESTIFY. THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE SWORN IT'S TAPE RECORDED AND VIDEOTAPED, AND ALSO THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME. AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION WITH WHATEVER THE PURPOSE IS THAT YOU'RE TESTIFYING. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM TESTIFIED AFFIRMATIVELY, AND I'M ASKING THE SERGEANT AT ARMS OF THE TWO OUTSIDE TESTIFIED AND THEY DID AS WELL. THE RIGHT THING HERE IS THAT EVERYONE IS SWORN.THANK YOU WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. PLEASE PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, INCLUDING THE LOCATION THE SIZE OF PROPERTY. CURRENT ZONING IS ONLY REQUESTED AND THE LIST OF THE APPLICANTS REQUESTS. DEVIATE FROM THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STUFF WAS GONNA LET THE APPLICANT COME UP FIRST, BUT. EITHER WAY, I'M STAFF I'D LIKE YOU TO ENSURE THAT YOU SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR AFFIDAVIT OF THEIR NOTICE AND SO ON TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. STAFF YES, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. TOM REED, SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR THEY HAVE ADVERTISED FOR THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 11 AND PROVIDED AFFIDAVITS WITH PICTURES OF THE SIGN POSTING AND AFFIDAVITS UP THE. NOTICE LETTERS BEING SENT. TWO NEIGHBORS WITHIN 300 FT. SO THE AFRICAN TONIGHT'S PROPOSAL IS THEO AFRICAN IS ASKING FOR AN ASSIGNMENT OF COMMERCIAL PLANT UNIT DEVELOPMENT CPD. ZONING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT LAND USE. WITH THE MASTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THE OWNER, JOHN MARINO, EMINEM, REALTOR REALTOR REALTY PARTNERS. THE SITES LOCATED IN BETWEEN CANADA HIGHWAY AND WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD. JUST WEST OF SELFISH BASH PARK SOUTH OF THE MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. EAST OF RIVER LAND COOP MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY. ON APRIL 29 2021, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE CANDOR.
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CPD PROPOSAL RECOMMENDING THAT THE AFRICAN ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING. ASKED THAT THE AFRICAN CONSIDERED THE ARCHITECTURAL URBAN DESIGN LAYOUT IN A VARIETY OF UNIT UNIT STYLES, TYPES AND DESIGN OF THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. IN ORDER TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF COMMUNITY. IT INCLUDED CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE THROUGH AND BETWEEN PARTS OF THE SITE. INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL SIDEWALKS MULTI MOTILE PAST PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ETCETERA.THEY ALSO ASKED TO PROVIDE SHADE TREES IN THE PARKING AREA, POSSIBLY WITH THE REDUCTION OF PARKING SPACES. REVISED THE DESIGN OF THE LAKES TO MAKE THEM LESS RECTANGULAR AND FORMAL PROVIDE EXPLANATION OF THE CALCULATION THAT WOULD BE USED TO DETERMINE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. PROVIDE ENHANCED CROSSING SIGNALS AT THE INTERSECTION FOR WALKERS AND BUS AND THE BUS STOP. PROVIDE FULL CROSSWALK DESIGN AND EACH CURB CUT BOTH THAT CANTOR AND WILL BE. PROVIDE A BUS STOP NEAR THE ROUNDABOUT LOCATED ON THE SITE AND FINALLY PROVIDE AN UPDATED CONCURRENCY REVIEW PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION APPROVAL DOCUMENTS. AFRICAN IS ASKED TO DEPART FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO REFERRING TO PARKING AND THE THIRD A LANDSCAPING CODE. DEPARTURE. FIRST ONE IS FOR MULTI FAMILY DRAWING UNITS STUDIOS OR ONE BEDROOMS. THE L. D. C REQUIRES 1.5 SPACES PREVIOUS UNIT. AND TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS REQUIRE TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT TO THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE BROADSHEET PROJECT IS 722 IN THE AFRICAN IS PROVIDING FOR 700 OF THOSE SPACES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AMBER TO PARKING CODE, ALSO WITHIN A LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH PROVIDES SHOPPING CARTS FOR USE BY THE PATRONS. PATRONS ONE PARKING SPACE. FOR 25 SPACES SHALL BE DEDICATED FOR THE STORAGE OF SHOPPING CARTS. THE STORAGE AREA SHALL INCLUDE FENCE MATERIALS TO KEEP THE SHOPPING CARTS IN THE SPACE. REQUIRED SPACES TO BE DEDICATED FOR STORAGE OF SHOPPING CARTS IS 24. THE AFRICAN IS PROVIDING FOR 14 OF THOSE SPACES. THEN FINALLY LANDSCAPING CODE FOR THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPE ISLAND SHALL BE PROVIDED BETWEEN EVERY 10 PARKING SPACES. WAS INTERIOR ISLANDS SHALL NOT BE LESS THAN SIX FT. AND WITH EACH INTERIOR ISLAND SHALL CONTAIN NOT LESS THAN ONE SHADE TREE AND A COMBINATION OF SHRUBS, GROUND COVER GRASS AND MULCH. COMMERCIAL PARKING AREAS FOR THE COSTCO BUILDINGS. PARKING LOT CONTAINS 14 ROWS WITH MORE THAN 10 SPACES WITHOUT IT, LANDSCAPED ISLAND. DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT? IN BETWEEN L. P, A AND FIRST READING. THE AFRICAN HAS PROVIDED A LANDSCAPE DIAMONDS IN THOSE VACANT SPACES. WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO PROPOSE AND MITIGATE EXISTING WETLANDS ON SITE PERS SECTION 503 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND AS PERMITTED BY POLICY. FIVE A 5.5 D OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. INTERVENER HAS LISTED OBJECTIONS. FIRST AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEREFORE, THEREFORE SIGNING A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT.
TO ASSIGNING CPU DE ZONING OF SAID LAND ON CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, ESTABLISHING THE CANTOR PED. AND FINALLY, THE USE OF C STAFF TO CREATE LOOPHOLES. YOU SEEING THE FUTURE LAND USE WITH THAT. STAFF IS, UH. THE FOURTH RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESIDENT PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT STAFF WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THE PROPOSAL IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S COM PLAN. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE APPLICATION AND EITHER FIND THE APPLICATION AND COMPLIANCE FOR APPROVED. IN COMPLIANCE SUBJECT TO STATED CONDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS OR NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND NOT APPROVED. THAT END STATS, PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT. CORD. IT'S READY, BOB BRAINS.
THANK YOU, UM. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ASKING AND STUFF QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE THE. THE PETITIONER STATE HIS POSITION. MISTER ROBB RAINS, ATTORNEY.
YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CLARKE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS BOB BRAINS AND EMILY,
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ANDY'S ATTORNEY WITH AGAINST HER LAW FIRM, BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. BEFORE I BEGAN MY PRESENTATION. I'D LIKE TO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS POINTS ABOARD HER IF I COULD. I WAS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION, OR AT LEAST TRYING TO AND IF I MISSED SOMETHING, THEN I APOLOGIZES TO WHO THE WITNESSES WERE BEING SWORN IN. I KNOW THAT THE INTERVENER. PROVIDED TO TWO STATEMENTS IN THEIR PACKET. AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT BOTH MR CHI CHO HAN AND AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, SIR, BUT IF I PUT YOUR NAME, IT'S A MISTAKE. AND I'M NOT TRYING SO I APOLOGIZE. AND THEN MR SMET OCCUR IS HE ALSO WASN'T. OKAY, WELL, THEN ON I APPRECIATE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT THAT STATEMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED. UH NOT BEING, UH, PUT INTO INTO THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CROSS EXAMINE HIM. SO I WOULD OBJECT TO THAT STATEMENT BEING PART OF THE RECORD. MR. IT'S A MOTEL. UM. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. CAN I ASK YOU TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE LANDING? IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS WITNESSES. IF YOU COULD JUST COME FORWARD FOR MINUTES, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE PROPER PEOPLE SWORN IN IN THIS PARTICULAR PERSON PERSPECTIVE OF THE INTERVENER HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PERSON I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT'S NOT HEAR THE TRUTH THAT WE'RE THERE ARE GONNA BE TWO OF MY WITNESS. THOSE ARE YOUR LANDSCAPE PEOPLE. LOVE HIM IS WITH COSTCO. OKAY, AND THE OTHER IS ALSO THE ARCHITECT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, OKAY, TIME, MR MARK, MAN FROM COSTUME. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WAS RELATED TO. SO HAS THE ISSUE BEEN RESOLVED? MR RAINES AND MR MR RAINES IS ASKING THE COMMISSION TO STRIKE THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE PACKET THAT'S RENDERING AN OPINION FOR THE COMMISSION TO BASE THEIR DECISION ON BASED UPON THE FACT.BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CROSS EXAMINE THAT PERSON BECAUSE HE'S NOT HERE TO SUPPORT THE OPINION. TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, IF IT WAS A COURT OF LAW, IT WOULD BE HERE SAYING WOULD BE INADMISSIBLE. ALL PUBLIC THAT CITY COMMISSION. IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT. WE'RE NOT ENFORCING HEARSAY, BUT I. YOU SHOULD BE CAUTIONED THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE A LOT OF WEIGHT TO AN EVIDENCE TO EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT ANOTHER PERSON CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OF THEM OR YOU'LL START ENDING UP GETTING EVERYTHING BY. STATEMENT THAT CAN'T BE CONTRADICTED AND YOU WOULD GO AWAY FAR A FIELD. IT'S REALLY THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD IS TO, BE HONESTLY, I HAVEN'T READ THE LETTER, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT SAYS FOR CLARIFICATIONS. MR SNEAD DOCTOR'S LETTER YES. THAT I CAME. SO IT'S LIKELY THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S FRED, THE AGENDA'S PROBABLY READY. READ THE LETTER. SO THE. FRUIT OF THE POISONOUS TREE OR THE EVIDENCE IS SOMEWHAT AFFECTED ALREADY, BUT. I WOULD SAY THE OBJECTION IS NOTED, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A CRITICAL FORM OF EVIDENCE, AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE INTERVENE OR NOT. DEPEND ON IT FOR CROSS EXAMINATION AND DOOR TO PRESENT, YOU KNOW EVIDENCE AGAINST OTHER WITNESSES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD DO AS FAR AS OKAY, SO WE'LL GIVE IT A PROPER PROBATIVE. VALUE OR NOT BASED ON, BUT IT'S NOTED THAT THAT PERSON IS NOT HERE. MY OBJECTION IS NOTED TO ICING FOR THE YES, SIR. OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND I ALSO HAD ONE OTHER QUICK CLARIFICATION. QUESTION. I ALSO KNOWS IN THIS CAR, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT, WAS ALSO SWORN WAS SWORN IN. AND WHAT HER ROLE IS WITH RESPECT TO THIS. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK MISS RICHARDS. NO AGAIN. I'M JUST ASKING. I'M JUST ASKING. I'M JUST ASKING WHAT HER ROLE IS THAT SO? OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST BACK BEHIND HERE. SO UH, ONCE AGAIN GOOD EVENING. AND I JUST SAY THAT, MR RAINES, I'M SORRY. YES WE DON'T WANT IT ACROSS CONVERSATIONS OR ANYTHING DURING THIS TIME. LET'S GIVE EVERYBODY FULL ATTENTION, NO CROSS CONVERSATION. ALMOST PRETEND LIKE YOU'RE IN A COURTROOM. LET'S JUST SHOW RESPECT AND STAY QUIET AND KEEP OUR OPINIONS AND LET EVERYBODY PRESENT. IS CONTINUE, MR GOOD EVENING. ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BOB BRAINS, AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE GUSTER LAW FIRM. AND WITH ME THIS EVENING IS JOE MARINA WITH EMINEM. REALITY WHO WILL BE THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT. AND MR MARK MAN WITH COSTCO. IN OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED AND EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER THREE YEARS. THE APPLICANT HAS SPENT LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF HUNDREDS OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SCRAPPING PLANS AND
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STARTING FROM SCRATCH, AND WE WORKING PLANS. IN ORDER TO ADDRESS COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF MEETINGS WITH COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS FROM THE L P A AND EVEN NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. THE APPLICANT AND OUR TEAM HAVE WORKED HARD TO BRING THE CITY A PROJECT THAT WE BELIEVE WILL PROVIDE QUALITY EMPLOYER. GOOD PAYING JOBS TO THE CITY, ALONG WITH THE QUALITY QUALITY HOUSING PROJECT. I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A PROJECT. IT'S COME ALONG IN RECENT HISTORY WITHIN THE CITY THAT PROVIDES SUCH A COMBINATION OF HOUSING AND QUALITY JOBS. TONIGHT. OUR JOB.MY JOB IN OUR TEAM IS TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. LET ME REPEAT THAT TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND STANDS FOR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF EXPERT TESTIMONY, BUT PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING AND DOING WORK IN STUART IN MARTIN COUNTY FOR YEARS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I TOTALED UP THE COMBINED EXPERIENCE. THE FOLKS IN THE PROFESSIONALS ON OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT DO WORK IN THE CITY, AND IT CAME TO A COMBINED TOTAL OF ABOUT 119 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SO THE EVIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS AN OPINION.
WERE UNSUBSTANTIATED CONJECTURE, CONJECTURE OR STATEMENTS SUCH AS IN TURN, THE INTERNAL ROAD WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE OR TRAFFIC WILL BE BACKED UP. ALL THE WAY TO THE INTERSECTION. ALWAYS.
OUR EVIDENCE WILL BE BASED ON EXPERT TESTIMONY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT. THAT'S TRYING. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINIONS, AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHTTO LIKE OR NOT LIKE THE PROJECT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY MAY HAVE. BUT YOU HAVE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE REAL EVIDENCE AND OPINIONS HERE THIS EVENING. SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR FIRST WITNESS, AND THAT WILL BE MR DUCK FITZWATER. AND LIKE I'M JUST TRYING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANOTHER MIKE HAD. WE HAVE THIS LITTLE. WHAT'S WITH INTERVENER, BUT WILL SURE WE CAN MEAN THERE'S ANOTHER MICHAEL. IT'S PLUGGED IN. YOU WANT TO MOVE IT OVER BY YOU? LET YOU FREE IT ALL THE WAY OVER THERE. WHATEVER MIGHT WORK JUST SO. WON'T NEED IT ANYHOW. RIGHT NOW, I THINK YOU'RE FINE. BENEFIT IF NEED BE. WE COULD HAVE TIME. TAKE A SEAT IN HEAVEN. SIT THERE FOR A MINUTE. IF YOU WANTED TO BE BETTER, WHATEVER WHATEVER WORKS JUST SO THAT MIGHT BE MORE DIRECT. WELL, IT WAS THE PERFECT TO THE BOARD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY I'M JUST THINKING IF MR WOULD YOU LIKE HIM RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU? I THINK IT BE BETTER IF WE COULD HAVE THEM SIT OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU SAID IS THEY COULD SET THEIR BOOKS YOU KNOW, AND SAY, WHAT. YOU WILL SIT DOWN. IN FRONT. OF IT. RIGHT? THERE. THAT'S GOOD STUFF. HERE. PA'S AND THE I FEEL THAT I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. FROM WHAT. YOU'RE FINE. HE'LL HEAR YOU FROM WHERE YOU ARE MR RAIN. OKAY, THAT'S. FOR FITZWATER, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR? DOUG FITZWATER. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES I HAVE YOU. CAN YOU STATE FOR THE RECORD YOUR EDUCATION WORK HISTORY. YES I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND I'VE WORKED WITH ACETONE ASSOCIATES FOR APPROXIMATELY 21 YEARS. AND CAN YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY THE PAPER THAT I'M HANDING YOU, SIR? YES THIS IS MY RESUME, AND IS IT CURRENT AND ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF YOUR EDUCATION? YOUR WORK HISTORY.
YES OKAY. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT MR. ITS WATERS RESUME FOR THE RECORD IS APPLICANTS EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE THE OBJECTION FROM OUR COMMISSION. NO, PLEASE SUBMIT IT, SIR. CLERK WILL ACCEPT YOUR SUBMITTAL. MR FITZ. WHAT CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ROLE IN THIS PROJECT? YES, I WAS A PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLANTS. DEFENSE WATER. COULD YOU SPEAK UP SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR? YES I WAS A PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE CIA AND ASSOCIATES.
AND WE PUT TOGETHER THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN. OKAY, SO YOUR FIRM PREPARED THE SITE PLAN DATED MAY 13TH 2021 FOR THE PROJECT TO STRING PRESENTED TONIGHT. YES, AND ALSO THE LANDSCAPE PLANS? YES DID YOU PREPARE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION? YOU'RE ABOUT SURE THIS EVENING? YES. OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED WITH YOUR. STEP THREE IS A SYSTEM IF HE NEEDS HELP WITH THE MACHINE. YEAH. UP AND DOWN. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU ASKING
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TONTO FOR YOU TO ASSIGN A FUTURE LANDED. USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE'RE REQUESTING A ZONING DESIGNATION OF C T. U D. FOR RETAIL BOAT MERCHANDISE. COSTCO UM, A STAND ALONE FUEL KIOSK AND FUEL FACILITY. 398 RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT UNITS AND A RETAIL AND RESTAURANT PADS. SO THIS IS A AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE USING A CURRENT ARIEL FROM THE MARTIN COUNTY DATABASE. YOU CAN SEE OUR PROPERTY HERE THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED AND ORANGE. IT'S A LONG CANTOR HIGHWAY. WE HAVE INDIAN STREETS. WE HAVE MODERATE ROAD AND WE HAVE WILL OBEY ITS SO. THE, THING IS, THIS PROPERTY WAS SUBJECT TO AN ANNEXATION. UM IN 2016 IN 2017. I HAVE SCANNED COPIES OF THAT ANNEXATION. UM ORDINANCE UP FOR YOU. I'M GONNA FOCUS ON 2016 1ST SO BACK IN 2016 THE KNEE ME. PROPERTY IN THE RICE PROPERTY.WE'RE BOTH ANNEXED INTO THE CITY'S STUART FROM MARTIN COUNTY. AND AS PART OF THE ANNEXATION, THE CITY COMMISSION'S DETERMINED THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAID LANDS UPON ANNEXATION SHOULD BE IN COORDINATES WITH THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OF MARTIN COUNTY.
UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLANNING AN OFFICIAL ZONING THAT BECOME EFFECTIVE SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT IS WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU, TOO. MEND THE CONFERENCE OF LAND USE PLAN AN OFFICIAL ZONING MAP. WHEN THE PROPERTY'S CAME IN, UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS TABLE FROM THE LAND USE SUMMARY. THE LAND USE WAS LOW DENSITY AND MARTIN COUNTY AND IT HAD A ZONING OF A ONE A TWO A ONE. A IS A SMALL AGRICULTURAL DESIGNATION. IF WE WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IN MARTIN COUNTY, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A ZONING CATEGORY THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH LOW DENSITY. UM. THE CITY LAND USE IF YOU COULD SEE FROM THE LAND USE SUMMARY FOR THOSE TWO PARCELS. THEY ANTICIPATED MULTI FAMILY AND LIMITED COMMERCIAL. THEY ALSO ANTICIPATED A LIKELY OUR BEAUTY OR CPD. WE'RE COMING FORWARD WITH THE C P U T. AND AGAIN THE RICE PARCEL, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION. BUT AGAIN, IT SAYS TO BE DETERMINED, LIKELY. MULTI FAMILY LIMITED COMMERCIAL CITY ZONING TO BE DETERMINED LIKELY. RPG OR C P UT. THEN IN 17 2003.
MORE PARCELS WERE ANNEXED INTO THE PROPER AND TO THE CITY. SO AGAIN, THE COUNTY DID THE SAME CITY DID THE SAME THING. THEY BROUGHT THE PARCELS IN, UM, WITH THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS OF MARTIN COUNTY UNTIL SUCH TIME AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S CONFERENCE OF PLAN.
LAND USE PLANNING OFFICIALS ONLY MAP BECOME EFFECTIVE AND AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY IS WE'RE ASKING FOR A LAND USE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A ZONING OF CPD. AND THIS ONE WENT FURTHER AND IN THE STAFF REPORT, I HIGHLIGHTED.
BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY LAND USE AMPUTEES. ONIY DESIGNATIONS WILL BE HAVE TO APPLIED AT A LATER DATE. AND THEN YOU CAN GOES ON FAR FAR. VER THERE. IN THE MEANTIME, MARTIN COUNTY'S LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS REMAIN IN EFFECT. SO WHEN THEY CAME FORWARD, THE PROPERTY IS UNDER PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO A P, U D AND THE LAND USE AMENDMENT. SO IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE. UM THE CITY'S LAND USED FOR THE KNEE.
ME PARCELLS. THEY'RE ANTICIPATING MULTI FAMILY LIMITED COMMERCIAL, UM, CITY ZONING. TO BE DETERMINED LIKELY R P UT UM. MIMI PARCEL TO BE DETERMINED, LIKELY MULTI FAMILY LIMITED COMMERCIAL WILLOUGHBY PARCEL FOR LIKELY MULTI FAMILY LIMITED COMMERCIAL. SO AGAIN.
THE CITY ZONING WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE TO BE DETERMINED. THEY'RE ANTICIPATING LIKELY RPG, HOWEVER, WERE YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT? CPD IN WHICH YOU CAN DO RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS WITHIN SO IN SOME RESPECTS. WE'RE PROVIDING WHAT AN RPG WOULD PROVIDE. SO. THIS IS A DOCUMENT HERE THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS STAFF REPORT, AND I JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS. THIS GRAPHIC BECAUSE THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE INTERVIEW NEWS REPORT. UM. SO THIS IS THE NEW ME, PARCELLS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY WITH THE ANNEXATION AGREE FOR THE NEEDY PARCELS. BUT THIS IS THE OTHER
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PIECE IS THE RIGHT PIECE HERE THAT WAS ANNEXED EARLIER IN 2016. IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THESE COLORS TO SHOW. UM SO I HAD TO TAKE A PHOTO AND TRANSFERRED OVER. BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS COLOR. IT COULD BE INTERPRETED TO BE P S P U T. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A DARKER COLOR OVER HERE FOR P S P UT MY OPINION IS THAT THIS COLOR WAS JUST REALLY A HOLDING COLOR, JUST DESIGNATING THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A ZONING MAP DESIGNATION ON IT. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AT THE TIME. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AGAIN. IT Z KIND OF A LIGHT COLOR. UM IT INCLUDES THE TWO PARCELS AND, UM, IF YOU LOOK, IT'S SIMILAR TO CONSERVATION.BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP ON. ON THE CITY OF STUART'S G. I S SIGHT. THIS PARCEL IS STILL DESIGNATED COUNTY LAND USE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE TO BE DETERMINED. SO AGAIN. IT'S INCORRECT TO CONSIDER THAT CONSERVATION IN MY OPINION. THIS. THIS GRAPHIC HERE IS TO SHOW SOME OF THE CHANGES TO CANTER HIGHWAY OF THE YEARS IN 1966. IT WAS A TWO LANE HIGHWAY 1995. IT WAS A TWO LANE HIGHWAY. SO IN THAT SPAN OF APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS, NOTHING CHANGED. BUT IN 1996. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD AROUND THAT TIME. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE, BUT THEY WANTED TO FOUR LANES AND THEN WE JUST WENT THROUGH A RECENT EXPANSION TO CANADA HIGHWAY AS WELL WHERE IT'S NOW SIX LANES WHO WENT FROM 4 TO 6 LANES. SO OVER TIME, KANTOR HIGHWAY HAS INCREASED CAPACITY. AND IN OUR OPINION, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR C P UT ON OUR PRODUCT ON THIS PROPERTY. SO I WANTED TO BRING UP A MAP SHOWING SOME OF THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. UM WE HAVE WE HAVE AVAILABLE HEYA, WHICH IS ABOUT 303. UNITS. WE CALCULATED THAT OFF THE AREA. UM, WHERE IT'S FROM. FROM THE BAR COUNCIL.
PARCEL MAP. WE'RE ENGAGED IN IT TO BE AROUND 19 YEARS PER ACRE. WE HAVE THE HIDEAWAY, WHICH IS IN THIS AREA HERE. WE HAVE 49 UNITS FROM THE AERIAL AND THOSE AIR ACTUALLY DO COLLECTION.
IT'S AND THERE'S ALSO SOME MULTI FAMILY MIXED IN WITH IN THE DUPLEX. UM. OF THE VACANT PARCEL HERE WE HAVE CABANA POINTS. WE HAVE. AND EVEN WITH COMBAT A POINT THERE'S A QUAD TRIPLEX HERE AND THEN THERE'S MULTI FAMILY LITTLE PORTION OVER HERE, WHICH IS A FOUR PLEX. I BELIEVE ACTUALLY LIVED THERE ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO. UM. SO WE HAVE THEN WE HAVE RIVER LAND MOBILE HOMES. AND BRIDGE VIEW APARTMENTS, WHICH WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED, AND THAT WAS FOR 202 UNITS AT ABOUT 13.36 UNITS PER ACRE. JASON TO US, WE HAVE LEAKY TREE FARMS. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL. YOU HAVE THE CORRECTIONS FACILITY. YOU HAVE LEISURE VILLAGE. UM THE CROSSINGS, WHICH IS AN A MULTI FAMILY PROJECT THAT'S FOR MORE OF AN AFFORDABLE ARE TOO COMPLEX. SO THERE'S SOME OF THE PROJECTS OR OR USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, SO WANT TO DONO. NEXT. I JUST WANNA GET ANY. I DON'T NEED TO GET THROUGH EACH OF THESE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE FLAVOR OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITH DAILY BEHAVIOR AT THE HIDEAWAY WITH THE MULTI FAMILY, THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE DUPLEX UNITS. THAT'S THE CABANA 0.4 PLEX HERE. WE HAVE LEACHED TREE NURSERY ADJACENT RIVER LAND. WE HAVE THE CLEVELAND CLINIC WE WOULD JUST CONSTRUCTED THE GAS STATION.
THERE'S A MEMORY CARE FACILITY ON INDIAN STREET. ALONG WITH BRAND NEW RETAIL, THE CROSSINGS, AND THEN IT'S THE CIRCLE AROUND ON WILLOUGHBY. WE HAVE THE COUNTY SELFISH SPLASH. THE MARTIN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE CORRECTIONS FACILITY. WE'RE THE NEW WALL UAVS WITH WATER'S EDGE AND COVERS THE TAX COLLECTORS, THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES SURROUNDING SO ALL THOSE YOU KNOW THEY TIE AND IN OUR OPINION TO THE APARTMENTS.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. UM. THE HIGH SCHOOL THEY ALL OFFER. YOU KNOW POTENTIAL JOBS THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD. THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS COULD LIVE AT UM. SO AGAIN. THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE LAND USE MAP, AND THIS IS REALLY AN AMALGAM BETWEEN THE MARTIN COUNTY LAND USE MAP AND THE CITY OF STUART LAND USE MAP. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS, UH, BUT I HAVE A HIGHLIGHT IN PURPLE IS BASICALLY THE CITY BOUNDARY. SO IT'S PRETTY COMPLEX IN THIS AREA. SO, UM, THIS WHOLE THIS
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WHOLE SIDE IS ALL MARTIN COUNTY. THEN THESE ARE VILLAGES MARTIN COUNTY, THEN WE HAVE STUART, WHICH IS MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. UM. AND THEN ALSO, WE HAVE LUCCI TREE FARMS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. STUART IT'S ACTUALLY IN MARTIN COUNTY. THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AND AGAIN. WE PICK UP STUART AS WE HAD. SOUTH. SO SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOME OF THESE USES AROUND. WE HAVE MARTIN COUNTY COMMERCIAL GENERAL. WE HAVE MARTIN COUNTY COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT, WHICH IS A BOAT. FACILITY COULD THEY CONSTRUCT? YOU KNOW HOTEL THERE? YEAH. YEAH, THAT KID UNDER MARK COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS THERE, LIBYA THAT'S AH AH, HIGH DENSITY IN MARTIN COUNTY UP TO 15 YEARS PER ACRE. THE HIDEAWAY IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT. I'M IN HERE. WHAT DID YOU DO IN COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT OR WRC? YOU COULD DO THAT TO 10 YEARS PER ACRE. YOU COULD DO HOTEL 20 YEARS BREAKER. WE HAVE MEDIUM DENSITY. WE HAVE HIGH DENSITY RIGHT IN FRONT OF CABANA POINT.AND THEN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AT THE TIP OF CABANA POINT, THERE'S ANOTHER HIGH DENSITY PORTION AS WELL. UM ALL OF IT IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND THIS IS THIS. THIS AREA HERE IS LOW DENSITY, THOUGH, DOESN'T CITY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN ALSO, UM LUCI TREE FARMS IS LOW DENSITY, WHICH IS REALLY THE ONLY LOW DENSITY IN THE AREA. EXCLUDING OUR THIS PARCEL HERE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AND IT CAME IN WITH MARTIN COUNTY LOW DENSITY, BUT AS I ESTABLISH EARLIER, WE'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT TO NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. AGAIN, UM WAY HAVE WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL AGAIN. COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT. YOU HAVE A MOBILE HOME, WHICH IS EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE ON BEN. WE HAVE CITIES, STUART MULTI FAMILY, SO. JUST KNOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPHIC. I WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN HERE. IT'S GOLD. MARTIN COUNTY DOES. THEIR LOW DENSITY IS GOLD CITIES. STEWART DOES THERE. MULTI FAMILY IS GOLD. SO AGAIN WE HAVE MULTI FAMILY HERE. WE HAVE MULTI FAMILY HERE. UM. THEN THIS IS MARTIN COUNTY. AH OVER HERE, WHICH IS GENERAL INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH INCLUDES THE CORRECTIONS FACILITY. SELFISH SPLASH THEIR HEALTH FACILITIES. AND UM SO WE FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AN APARTMENT USED AND, UM IN A COSTCO IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. UM SO. THE NEXT SLIDE SO AGAIN. HERE'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT REQUEST GRAPHIC. AND WE HAVE THE NEXT GRAPHIC FOR WHERE A CPU D AND, UH, DON'T WANT TO GET THROUGH OUR APPLICATION HISTORY. WITH YOU. ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED A COSTCO ONLY BACK IN 2000 AND 18.
IT WAS FOR 29.23 ACRE SITE. THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR CPD AND A COMMERCIAL LAND USE BECAUSE.
APARTMENTS WERE NOT PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT AT THE TIME. THEN IN AUGUST 2020 THE SITE PLAN WAS AMENDED UNDER THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE COST OF FUEL FACILITY.
24,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL 17,000 SQUARE FEET, A RESTAURANT IN 450 APARTMENT UNITS. PROJECT WAS MAINTAINED, PROBABLY MAINTENANCE CPD REQUESTS AND CHANGE THE LAND USE REQUEST NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. THEN IN DECEMBER, 2020 ON BEN. IN THE MEANTIME, BETWEEN AUGUST AND DECEMBER, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. AND UH, DISCUSSING THE SITE PLAN AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THAT WAS WHERE THE CONNECTOR WROTE CAME IN. SO IN DECEMBER, WE WILL REVISE THE SITE PLAN TO PROVIDE THE CONNECTOR ROAD REDUCED THE APARTMENTS FROM 450 DOWN TO 396. THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL IS REDUCED FROM 24,000 SQUARE FEET DOWN THE 19,000 TO 50. THE RESTAURANT WAS REDUCED FROM 17,500 TO 40. THEN IN MARCH, 2021 WE REVISE THE PLAN TOL AFTER MEETING WITH THE DCI TREE FARM TOL. THEO, INCREASE THE BUFFER AND SOME OF THEIR THEIR CONCERNS THAT I'LL GET INTO THAT. WE'RE MORE SITE PLANS SPECIFIC. I HAVE SOME SITE PLANS THAT I WANT TO GET THROUGH AND SHOW YOU AND THEN.
WASTE THOSE PLANS AND THEN THE FIRE MARSHAL HAD SOME CONCERNS. ABOUT ACCESS WITS OF SO WE INCREASED A LOT OF OUR DR ISLES ON THE GATES, TORTO 20 FT. TONTO FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL. AND
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THEN WE ALSO SHOWED HOSE LINKED GRAPHIC TO SHOW THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL. GET ACCESS ALL AROUND THE BUILDING AND DO THAT, I BELIEVE CAN ADDRESS THAT. UM. DAVID DAVID BAGUETTES ARE CIVIL ENGINEER WHO WILL SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES. ON BEN. AND THEN MAY WE SUBMITTED A REVISED PLAN AGAIN, TOMO ADDRESS, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED. THIS IS THE COSTCO. AND FOR SOME CONTACTS WE HAVE LEE. SHE TREAT FARMS OVER HERE ON THE NORTHERN BORDER. THIS DID NOT INCLUDE THE CONNECTOR ROAD ON INCLUDE THE RETAIL. IT'S UM, PADS AND, UM, DENIED IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE RELOCATING THE DEA T BASE AND THE TIME SO WITH THAT WE MET WITH THE CITY OF STUART. AND, UM. IT IS SORRY THAT WAY THAT WAY. COSTCO ASSETS TO, UM. REPORT JOE MARINO BECAUSE THEY WANTED TONTO. BRING HIM INTO IT. AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS THE, UH THE APARTMENTS SURROUNDING WILL BE FROM WILLOUGHBY. SO WILL IT BE? WAS AN ACCESSORY APARTMENTS AND WE HAD NO ACCESS TO DEPARTMENTS APPEARING AROUND COSTCO WAS STILL IN THE SAME LOCATION.THEN, AFTER MEETING WITH THE CITY OF STUART. WE UH, BECAME UP THIS NEXT PLAN. WHICH PROVIDED THE CONNECTOR ROAD. WHICH WAS WHICH TOOK UP QUITE A BIT OF LAND, BUT I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH A BETTER PROJECT. WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS DOWN TO 396 AT THIS TIME. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AND THEN WE ALSO RELOCATED THE COSTCO AWAY FROM THE TREE FARMS. ON BEN ALSO, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE HAVE THE GARAGE IS LOCATED OVER IN THIS AREA HERE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE APARTMENTS UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE HERE. SO, UH, WE MET WITH TH E TREE FARMS, LEAVING ABOUT THEM TWICE. WE ALSO MET WITH THE SECOND MEETING. THEY ALSO BROUGHT THEIR HYDRO GEOLOGIST AND DAVID CAN ADDRESS. UH, HOW YOU ADDRESS THE COMMENTS FROM THE HYDROLOGIST. UM BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE GARAGES THAT WERE LOCATED IN THIS AREA.
HERE. WE LOOK AT HIM TO THE PERIMETER TO CREATE A LARGER BUFFER. WE TOOK OUT THE LANDSCAPE STRIP THAT WAS IN THIS ZONE HERE. AND PLACE IT TO THE PERIMETER AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE SHE TREE FARMS BROUGHT UP. WAS THERE SHADE THERE GROW AREA AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SHADE. WE DID SOME SOME, UM. SHADE ANALYSIS IS ON THIS PLAN AND THE COMPUTER SAID THAT THE SHADE LINE WAS FALLEN RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT ALONG IN HERE, BUT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY THE SITE PLAN. SO WE DID THAT, AND WE PRESS THE BUILDINGS BACK, UM, BACK AWAY FROM THE TREE FARMS AND INCREASE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER SO THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY NO ISSUE. COMPUTER MODEL SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUE WITH SHADE ON THE GROWING AREA OF LEAKY TREE FARMS. SO WE TOOK THIS PLAN, TONTO. THE O P A.
AND SOME OF THE OPA COMMENTS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO ADDRESS WE'RE, UM. MULTIMODAL PATH.
THEY WOULD LIKE US TO WIDEN THIS PATH ALONG HERE FROM EIGHT FT. 10 FT. WE? WE DID THAT. WE HAD. WE WERE CREATING KIND OF LIKE A PALM ALEI ALONG HERE WITH A ROYAL PALMS. THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT SHADE THE ASSETS TO SWITCH THAT TOO. LIVE OAKS. SO WE DID THAT. THE LAKE HERE. THEY WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL INTEREST IN LAKE S. SO WE ADDED A LITERAL PLAN.
PLANTING SO YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. LITERAL PLANTINGS CAME IN HERE. UM, THE OTHER THE OTHER. THE OTHER ASPECT TO THE. YOU KNOW FOR THE FOR YOUR ASKING FOR BETTER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN OUR CLUBHOUSE AND OUR APARTMENTS TO THE RETAIL. WE HAD A DRIVE THRU THE WRAPPED AROUND THIS REACH THIS RETAIL RESTAURANT, UM TRIP CENTER HERE. SO WE WAY MADE BETTER CONNECTIONS. I'LL SHOW THAT TO YOU NOW HERE. UM SO WHAT WE DID IS WE REDESIGN THIS ENTRANCE HERE. WE NOW HAVE AH PAVER PATH THAT CONNECTS TO THE OUTDOOR DINING AREA NEXT TO THE THIS RETAILS OF SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTDOOR DINING. UM AND. ENTER INNER, YOU KNOW,
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WALKING BETWEEN MUCH BETTER WALKING BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND ON THE RETAIL. UM SO AND THEN, UM. THE OTHER ITEM WAS IS THE THEY WERE ASKING FOR MORE SHADE IN THE PARKING AREAS, SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS ADD, UM. LANDSCAPE DIAMONDS IN THE PARKING AREA. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WE'RE PLANNING ON GREEN BUTTON WOODS IN THOSE ISLANDS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE WHAT WE COULD WHAT COULD BE THE BEST TREE AND THOSE THOSE ISLANDS. AND, UM. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO. WELL, THIS PLANS UP. I WANTED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE WITH VEHICULAR. DRIVING DOWN THIS NEW CONNECTOR ROAD. SO SO WE HAVE THIS DEAL T BASE IN HERE. WE'RE EXPANDING IT. UM. WE HAVE HEAVY LANDSCAPING ALL AROUND THE PERIMETER. IT'S GOING TO BE ALL NATIVE LANDSCAPING. WE HAVE A DRIVER. ATTENTION BASE IN HERE. WE'RE PLANTING IT ALL OUT IN ASSAD, SO IT'S GOING TO FEEL LIKE A WET AREA LIKE A WETLAND IS OUR GOAL. WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH A TRAFFIC CIRCLE IS GONNA BE HEAVILY LANDSCAPE. WE HAVE A MULTI MOTILE PATH THAT YOU'LL DRIVE ALONG WITH SHADE TREES ALONG IT. WE'RE HOPING TO, UH WE'LL HAVE THE YOU KNOW THE TAUREL SHELVES IN HERE, UM, PLANTED WHICH WILL HELP TO SOFTEN THE LAKE. WE HAVE A BIO TO TENSION SHELF OVER AND HEAR THAT WE'RE PLANTING OUT AS WELL. IN NATIVE LANDSCAPING. THERE'S ON THEN, ALSO IS YOUR KIND OF LEAVING. ARE YOU CONNECTING THE WILLOUGHBY AGAIN? WE HAVE DRIVER ATTENTION AREAS, DRIVER TENSIONS THAT WERE PLANTING OUT ALL NATIVE. WE'RE MAINTAINING ALL THE TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALONG WILLOUGHBY, THESE LARGE OAK TREES, SO IT'S VERY, VERY THICK. YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE IT'LL BE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO SEE THROUGH IT ONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE BACK PLANTED ALONG THE ALONG THE LAKES. SO, UH, NEXT. NEXT ITEM. I WANT ADDRESSES THE. THIS. THIS THIS WITH THE TREE MITIGATION IN THE PREVIOUS THE MIDDLE. THE CITY REGULATIONS ALLOWS YOU, TONTO. RECEIVE CREDIT FOR PHOSPHATE NITRATE REMOVAL SO ARE IN CIVIL ENGINEER. UM. TOGETHER THIS LETTER THE DOCUMENTED HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING NIGHT TRAIN PHOSPHATE REMOVAL. FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT WAS ABOUT A 500. $13,000 CREDIT TO GO TO THE TREE MEDICATION. WE'VE DECIDED NOT TO UTILIZE THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GOING TO REVISE OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN TO SHOW ADDITIONAL TREES ON SITE. WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE STORM WATER SYSTEM USING A BAFFLE BOX, DAVID BAG. IT HAS INFORMATION ON THAT IN HIS PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT THE BATH FULL BOX. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, BASED ON THESE TWO ITEMS HERE, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IN THE STORM WATER. UM. WE'RE GONNA POSSIBLY HAVE A TREE MITIGATION FEE PAID TO THE CITY OF STUART. ONCE WE GET INTO THE.THE ADDITIONAL TREES, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE WE ARE WITH TREE MITIGATION. S O. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CPD RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS. UM YOU KNOW THE DENSITY CALCULATIONS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT LAND AREA AND THE CPD RESIDENTIAL. MERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS FOR THIS. THE DISTANT CALCULATIONS. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A. THIS IS A TABLE. UM THAT SHOWS THAT FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO ESTABLISH THAT NEIGHBORHOODS IN NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT C PDS ARE ALLOWED. SO YOU GO OVER HERE AND ESPECIALLY DISTRICT. YOU GO OVER TO THE RIGHT UNDER PD COLUMN C BEAUTIES ARE ALLOWED. SO THIS IS FROM THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN. AND ITS POLICY A 7.2. SO I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR MANY REASONS, BUT WE HAVE. BASICALLY IT SAYS GROSS DENSITIES. GROSS INTENSITY PROPORTIONATE USE AMOUNTS FOR EACH LAND USE.
CATEGORY ESTABLISHED IN THE TABLE LAND USE DENSITIES INTENSITIES THAT IS ADOPTED AS PART OF THIS ELEMENT. THAT'S THIS TABLE HERE. IF YOU GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT WERE OUTSIDE OF SIARA. SO WE GO TO THE GENERAL SECTION. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A MAJOR U CE, OR WE'RE NOT AN RPG. SO WE'RE LESS THAN 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND AGAIN POLICY, 87.2 SAYS GROSS DENSITIES. SO GROSS AREA MEANS ALL LAND INCLUDED. THIS IS THE
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DEFINITION FROM CHAPTER 12 GROSS AREA MEANS ALL THE AREA LAND, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS DEFIED BY CERTIFIED LEGAL SURVEY. WE DID THAT PROVIDED THAT. GROSS DENSITY MEANS ALL THE MEANS. THE GROSS DENSITY OF. ANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION SHOW BECAME CALCULATE BY DIVIDING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS EXTRACTED ON PROJECT BY THE GROUP'S AREA. THE PROJECT AND AGAIN INCLUDED A SCREEN CLIP THAT SHOWS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. OUTSIDE OF THE C R. A LESS THAN 15 YEARS PER ACRE, SO WE HAVE 398 UNITS TO FIGHT ABOUT 48.99. THAT'S 8.1 UNITS BREAKER. THAT'S LESS THAN 15 20 YEARS. BREAKER AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT IS NOT CALCULATED USING THAT INTENSITY. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT POLICY, EH, 7.2 GROSS DENSITIES, GROSS INTENSITIES AND PROPORTIONAL SO WE'VE ESTABLISHED WITH THIS TABLE. THAT IT'S NOT NOT DENSITY. SO.AND THEN WE GO TO ANOTHER SECTION SECTION TWO POINT OH, THREE. OH THREE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IN CITY. THIS IS TABLE THREE BE, SO THERE'S SEVERAL TABLES AND WHEN YOU GO TO MUNICH OH, THIS TABLE THREE WHICH TABLE 38 IN THE STABLE THREE DAY. SO PLAN UNIT DENSITY DENSITY FOR A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT SHALL NOT EXCEED THOSE DENSITIES SET FORTH AND TABLE THREE BIG. SO WE GO TO TABLE THREE BIG NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF THE C R A. CPU D 15 YEARS PER ACRE. SO THAT ZEUS ESTABLISH THAT 15 YEARS PER ACRE IS THE MAXIMUM.
WE'RE AT A 150.1 UNITS PER ACRE. NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT LAND AREA SO. WHEN WE LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT WERE OUTSIDE OF C R. A. MINIMUM OF 30% OF THE LAND AREA SHALL BE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. SO THIS BLUE AREA HIGHLIGHTS 14.7 ACRES. UM. OF THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES OUR OPENS FACE AND NATIVE.
VEGETATION AREAS. OKAY SO THAT'S 14.7 ACRES. SO, UM. MY I BELIEVE WE COMPLY. SO THEN THE NEXT CALCULATION IS CE PEUT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES. SO AGAIN USE IS PERMITTED IN THE CPU DISTRICT. RIGHT? AND SO TO SEE. SAYS COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS APARTMENTS, HOTELS AND RESORTS. SO AGAIN WE'RE ESTABLISHING THE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES, SUCH AS APARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED USE IS PERMITTED IN THE SECURE DISTRICT. INVITED SAID USES AGAIN. IT'S USES. DO YOU NOT COMPLIES MORE THAN 30% OF THE DEVELOPMENT SITE, EXCLUDING THE OPEN SPACE AND MADE NATURAL VEGETATION AREA AND WELLENS? SO WE HAVE 48.99 ACRES, SO OUR OPEN SPACE AND NATIVE VEGETATION AREAS 12.25 ACRES. SO REMAINING AFTER THE EXCLUSION. WE HAVE 36.74 ACRES, SO 30% OF THAT IS REMAINING FOR THE CPD AT 11.2 ACRES. I'D LIKE TO ALSO CALL OUT THERE WERE I'M NOTING THAT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT REMOVING THE WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE MITIGATING FOR THE WETLANDS ON. WE'RE WEDDING MITIGATING FOR THE WETLANDS.
UM, SO THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE. TALLY UP THE RESIDENTIAL USES. SO WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTIAL USES ITS THE BUILDING SINCE THE APARTMENT.
THE GARAGE IS THE MAINTENANCE. THE CABANA COME, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE HAVE A COMPACT. WE HAVE THE PAVEMENT. WE HAVE THE CURB. WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK, INCLUDING THE POOL AREA, AND WE TALLY ALL THAT UP, AND THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES. THOSE AIR 10 POINT OF SEVEN ACRES. SO AGAIN.
WE ARE LESS THAN THE 11 REQUIRED FOR THIS CPU DISTRICT. AND NEXT I WANT TO BRING UP THE ARCHITECTURAL OVATIONS FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT. JOE MARINO IS DESIGNED FOR THIS PROJECT, SO.
SO THIS IS THE AIR THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS WERE STILL WORKING ON THE BUILDING COLORS. UM. YOU KNOW THEY'RE RIGHT NOW. THE SHOW IS WHITE AND GRAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT, AND JOE IS GOING BACK AND FORTH ON ON IT. BUT UM, AND THEN THEY ALSO THE EPA ASKED US TO BELLIS. THE ARCHITECTURE'S SO WE'VE ADDED SOME TEXTURES TO THE WALLS THAT DIFFICULT TO SEE IN HERE, BUT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL TEXTURES. AND THEN
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ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE STREET HERE, WE'RE SHOWING OUR OAK TREES IN HERE WERE PREVIOUSLY THEIR PALMS. AGAIN HERE'S A HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHAT? UH ANTICIPATING POOL AREA TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A TROPICAL STYLE POOL. UM. THERE'S THE BUILDING OVERLOOKING THE POOL AREA. UM, HERE'S THE ARCHITECTURE'S WELL. UM. AND HERE'S THE MULTI MOTO PATH WITH THE BENCHES AND THE SHADE TREES. AND THE LAKE AND YOU COULD SEE AGAIN. THIS IS A THIS IS AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT'S GONNA BE ALL NATIVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AH, LITERAL SHELVES PLANTED ALL AROUND THE LAKE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TREES ALONG THE LAKE BANKS S OH, IT'S GONNA BE HEAVILY HEAVILY PLANTED OUT. ON DHERE IS THE PICTURE OF THE SPACE BETWEEN, THE BUILDINGS AS WELL, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE, AND THIS IS ALL WE'RE PLANNING ON PLANTING OUT THIS WHOLE AREA AND NATIVE VEGETATION. AND HERE'S THE PATH WITH THE BICYCLE LIST. I'M SHOWING THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING BEING A MULTI MODAL PATH.HERE'S THE ELEVATION OF THE COSTCO. AND WE HAVE DOUG BURKE BANK HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING OPERATIONS OF THE COSTCO FROM OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT. UM.
AND I'M HERE'S SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE, UM FROM THE PARKING CODE. UM WE'RE.
WE'RE REQUESTING TOL REDUCE THE. APARTMENT COMPLEX DOWN FROM 17 22 2 700 SPACES, PARKING RATES 1.76 YEARS SPACES PER UNIT. THAT WORKS FOR JOE ON HIS EXPERIENCE WITH PROJECTS SIMILAR THAT HE OPERATES. PARKING SECTION 6.114 SEE, UM. CITIES TO IT REGULATES THE NUMBER OF PARKING OF CART CORRAL, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR REDUCTION. UM. DURING OPERATIONS. THEY EXTENSIVELY PICK UP UM CARTS. UM THEN, AH. LANDSCAPE IN SIX POINT OH 4 75, WE'RE REQUESTING WE HAVE ABOUT 30 ROSE. WITH MORE THAN 10 SPACES WITHOUT A LANDSCAPE ISLAND, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING TREE DIAMONDS. SIX POINT OR 77. WE HAVE 14 ROWS WITH OUTLET AND ESCAPED INTO YOUR MEDIANS, AND THAT'S FOR THAT REALLY BEGS TOMO COSTCO'S OPERATIONAL.
TILLY'S WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN A CUSTOMER COMES OUT WITH A CART. AND YOU PICKED THE WRONG ROW.
YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE ROAD NEXT TO IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO ACT LIKE A CAR AND DRIVE ALL GO ALL THE WAY BACK AND AROUND. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE HOME DEPOT VERSUS THE LOWS. HERE IN CITY, STUART. SO. THEY'RE ASKING TO REMOVE THE INTERIOR MEDIAN ISLANDS. UM AND THEN, UH, 6.7, UM, SEE ONE. WE'VE REDUCED THE INTERIOR LANDSCAPED AREA AND RELOCATED LANDSCAPED AREAS TO THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. AND SIX POINT OF FOUR HOURS. 72 WITH ELIMINATED LANDSCAPING AT THE SIDES AND THE REAR OF THE COSTCO BUILDING. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A COSTCO OPERATIONAL OPERATIONAL. ITEM. SO, UM. SO WITH THAT, UM. RING AT THIS GRAPHIC HERE. CURRENT GRAPHIC, SO I JUST WANT TO READ NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOODS. SPECIAL DICTION IS THE MIXTURES CATEGORY ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL LAND USES. SUCH THAT A FUNCTIONAL VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL MIX OF USES IS ACHIEVED. DEVELOPMENT SHALL INCLUDE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. WE'RE OFFICE USES USES MAY BE MIXED WITH A SINGLE BUILDING. AND ON A SINGLE SITE PROVIDED THAT IMPACTS OF DIFFERENT USES OR MITIGATED THROUGH EVER DESIGNED TECHNIQUES. ALSO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ELECTRIC DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATIONS ARE ALLOWED SO. IT'S NOT REALLY APPLICABILITY TO US, BUT I THINK WITH THE SITE PLAN, I THINK THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT WE MEET THE INTENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT LAND USE, AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT FITS IN WITH THE COMMUNITY FABRIC. THAT I POINTED OUT EARLIER WITH THE SURROUNDING USES OF THE APARTMENTS, THE SELFISH SPLASH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM AND FUTURE GROWTH IN THE AREA, SO THAT, UM NEXT. SURRENDERED OF ANY OTHER
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WITNESSES. I HAVEN'T WE, THIS ISN'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR FITZ WATER AND SOME ADDITIONAL WITNESSES. IF YOU CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP THE SITE PLAN UP FIRST. OKAY. SORRY THAT IT'S OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO LIKE. TO IT AREA. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ANY FUTURE CONNECTIONS PROVIDED UH, WITH THIS SITE. OH, YES, JUST THERE ARE THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH, WE DO HAVE A WAY. DO YOU HAVE A FUTURE CONNECTION HERE THAT WE WERE PLANNING AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO IS THAT'S GONNA ALLOW FOR CONNECTIONS TO THIS PROPERTY HERE WHEN IT GETS DEVELOPED. IN THE FUTURE ON I THINK THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF MEDICAL USE ON THAT PROPERTY AND THEN IT ACTUALLY WERE, THE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE CORNER.SO THAT WE CAN ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC OFF OF US. GET OFF CAMERA HIGHWAY. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER ACCESS THAT WAY WILL PROVIDE, TOO, AND THAT'S TO THE RICE PROPERTY. JO JO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THAT INTO THE PLANS AT THIS TIME. SO THEY CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH. IF YOU JUST POINTED OUT, WE'LL GO ALL THE WAY TO INDIAN STREET AND EVENTUALLY, AT SOME POINT, WELL, WE'RE PROVIDING YOU WERE PROVIDING A CONNECTION FROM OUR CONNECTOR ROAD TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS UP TO THE CITY OF STEWART AND FUTURE APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION. ON DOWN. THANK YOU. ARE MR FITZ. WHAT ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT COUSIN. A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES AND SO IS THE SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT LAND USES THAT ALLOWED ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. YES, IT IS. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT LANDINGS DESIGNATION INAPPROPRIATE. LANDES DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING TONIGHT. YES, I BELIEVE IT. AND WHY IS THAT? WELL FROM MY PRESENTATION, BUT SHOWING THE SURROUNDING USES AND THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A HORIZONTALLY MIXED USE PROJECT WITH THE COSTCO RETAIL. RESTAURANTS AND MULTI FAMILY, AND IT GIVES YOU A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE IN THE MULTI FAMILY TO POTENTIALLY WORK AT COSTCO, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT IT'S ONLY A COSTCO. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE JOBS AT MARTIN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE CLEVELAND CLINIC DOWN THE STREET. WE HAVE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE.
MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, SO THERE'S A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES. IN THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. OKAY, AND SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THE CPU THESE IS A APPROPRIATE ZONING. ALSO FOR THE PROPERTY. YES. AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DOES THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN CITIES STUART LANDED ON THE COAT. YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO OUR NEXT WITNESS. WHAT WE COULD DO IT, HOWEVER, YEAH, BUT NOW IT BECOMES A MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS GONNA DECIDE YOU WANT TO CROSS EXAMINE THE WITNESSES. AS WE GO WHERE WE WANT THEM TO CALL THEM BACK AND HAVE HIM COME UP LATER. REALLY PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. THINK IS LOGICAL TO DO IT. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOW JUST NEVER HAPPIER TO BE WRONG. THEY CREATE HAVOC. DISPLEASURE THE BORDER. I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE. IT'S FRESH OR THE BLIND OR THE INTERVENER TO BE ABLE TO, WHATEVER WHATEVER THE PLACE, LET'S DO IT. AS INTERVENER COMES, URSA QUESTION JUST BRIEFLY SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD AND. YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE OF THE INTERVENING TO PRESENT YOUR INSTEAD OF THE PODIUM, PEOPLE THE WHOLE PROGRAM. JUST QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO WHAT HAD BEEN JUST PRESENTED EVERY YES, MA'AM. I AM LINDA KEITH RICHARDS. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU IS CAN YOU PLEASE POINT OUT ON THE SITE PLAN WHERE THE STORMWATER OUTFALLS ARE? CANNOT I'M GONNA HAVE DAVID BAGGAGE OR CIVIL ENGINEER THAT IN THE ENGINEER, OKAY? IT'S TRADITION FOR THE STAFF. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO THANK YOU. OH, GOOD. MY NEXT WITNESS WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR YOU. IT'S SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL MR DAVID BAGUETTE, PLEASE. AND IF WE WANT TO ASK GENERAL QUESTIONS, REALLY? YES. I'M SORRY. I WAS GONNA WAIT. BUT THE BOARD I. I WANT TO DO IT WAS FRESH DECIDED WHILE IT'S FRESH MICE WHAT THIS NIGHT IS LIKE THAT'S FRESH. YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR FITZWATER, MR WEST MARE. BELIEVED. SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE FOR MR FITCH ORDERED. TRIED TO CATEGORIZE THEM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S MORE EFFICIENT. BUT MR FITZ WATER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SITE PLANS, SO I GUESS.
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GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE FREE. BUT HOW MANY. CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW MANY ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS THERE ARE AND. WHERE THEY ARE PROPOSED. SORRY YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND. THIS IS BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONER AND THE APPLICANT, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR ORDER READY? ORGANIZATIONS. SO THE E. V STATIONS WERE WAY THEY ARE BY THE GAS STATION, BUT THEY DON'T TAKE UP ANY GAS STATION SPACE IS, UH, WE HAVE 12345 APPEARS.IS THAT HOW THEY'RE DONE IN OTHER AREAS? I'M NOT A FIRE MARSHAL. OR ANY OF THAT. I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A TV EXPERT, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'D WANT TO HAVE THEM CLOSE BY, TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING A LARGE ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO THOSE, SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT. NOW THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE HALF OF THOSE AND PUT HIM ON THE OTHER SIDE. YOU KNOW, WITH A DUAL CHARGER, SO ONE SIDE'S ON ONE AND THE OTHER I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS TIME SO NOT OVER DO THAT. ARE THERE ANY THAT WILL OUR PROPOSED TO SERVICE THE APARTMENT? UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THIS LOCATED AT THIS TIME. JOE MARINA JUST SAID HE WILL DO IT. COUNTRY SEEMS TO BE TRENDING IN THAT DRESS. IT IS EVERYTHING'S GOING TO ELECTRIC, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED. UM AT THIS POINT, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT FEATURE. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, OR IS THERE ANY SORT OF HIGHLIGHTS IN IT? UM. YEAH, UM. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE WE HAVE BASICALLY ROUNDABOUT, AND WE HAVE SOME LARGE SHADE TREES PLACE IN THE ROUNDABOUT ALONG WITH SOME LARGE PALM TREES. THIS IS PART OF OUR NATIVE VEGETATION. SO IT IS ALL NATIVE. PLANTINGS. UM SO WE DON'T HAVE A DETAILED PLAN AS OF YET, BUT WE WILL PUT ONE TOGETHER AS WE HAVE A STEWART TYPE. ARTWORK. THE ARTWORK, PUBLIC LARGELY MATERIAL. WE DO NOT HAVE OUR PLANNED IN THAT ROUNDABOUT. MAY THAT SEEMS LIKE IF IT IS TO PASS THAT'S A.
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOCAL POINT. IT IS ABSOLUTELY. LET'S SEE ON THE PLANS HERE. ADAM.
SEEMED TO SHOW A FENCE. I'M LOOKING AT LAKE NUMBER TWO, THE BIG CENTER LAKE. YES YEAH, ON OUR SITE RIGHT ALONG THAT LAKE NEAR BETWEEN THE MULTIMODAL PATH AND THE LAKE, THERE SEEMED TO BE A FENCE. THAT IS THAT WAS ON THERE. WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE IT. YEAH, WE WANTED NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. WITH THAT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC USE OF THE PATH AND THE ENJOYMENT AND FUNCTION OF THE LAKE AS IT STANDS. YEAH YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE FENCE COME DOWN RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE. THEN WE'RE GONNA WORK. RIGHT IN HERE, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS WHOLE AREA OPEN.
OKAY, SO THE BENCHES THAT AIR PROPOSED THERE ALONG THAT PATH? WELL, WELL, SOMEONE IF THEY'RE.
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR HOT DOG FROM COSTCO AND GO AND SIT AT ONE OF THOSE BENCHES AND LOOK AT THE LAKE AND ENJOY IT. YEAH YOU KNOW THAT Z INTERESTING. BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT THE BENCHES LIKE LIKE YOU LIKE AN URBAN SETTING, FACING THE WALK OR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND MEMORIAL PARK. WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE BENCHES TOOK HIM BACK OFF THE OFF THE BLOCK AND REVERSE THEM SO THAT WHEN YOU SAID YOU COULD LOOK AT THE LAKE SO. I THINK I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A MIX OF THOSE, YOU KNOW? SO WHEN YOU COME AND YOU COULD SIT AND LOOK AT THE LAKE. SO THE PROPOSED LAKE WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR THE ENTIRE PARTY.
WE COULD DO BOTH. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT? THE BUS STOP. I SEE ON THE PLANS. IS THAT? I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING. YEAH, HE HAS RECOMMENDED. YOU INTEND TO CONTINUE TALKS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT INCLUDE A SHADED BUST UP? LET ME LET ME IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR MISS OF WORK TO TALK ABOUT IS THE ONE THAT HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND HOLDING OFF ON THAT PERFECT GET YOU SOME ANSWERS. AS FAR AS. GENERAL QUESTIONS TRYING TO KEEP HIM CATEGORIES. I THINK THAT IS IT.
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WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH THANK YOU SO MUCH. MIKE DON'T I BELIEVE? OKAY. GREAT. UM. AND DOUG. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR NOT, BUT THE FUEL THAT IS, UH, THAT'S ONLY FOR MEMBERS TRUCKED, CORRECT. OKAY, UM. SO, UH, THE ZONING WHEN THE CITY ANNEXED THE PROPERTY OF THINK IT WAS IN TWO DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS, 16 AND 17. IT WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THAT WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR AH, HEARING SUCH AS THIS FOR A REASON FOR REZONING. PRESS. THAT'S THAT IS CERTAINLY MY OPINION AND WHAT WHAT, MISTER? UH IT'S WATER PUT FORWARD, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN. FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF ALL THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN AN EXTEND TO THE CITY OF STUART THAT THEY THEN ATT'S SOME POINT IN TIME RECEIVED A LANDES DESIGNATION. OKAY ZOE DOESN'T NATION AT THAT TIME THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY AND NOT. THE CONNECTOR ROAD DEATH OF GOING TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD. YES IT WILL BE A PUBLIC ROAD THAT MAINTAINED BY PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, HOWEVER. AND SO MR MARINE OF WILL. TAKE CARE OF MAINTAINING. DO WE CALL? WE GET A POTHOLE? YES YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOURSELF PHONE. IT'LL BE OPEN.IT'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN YOU KNOW, AFTER THE LP, A MEETING YOUR CITY MANAGER WHO'S ALWAYS ON TOP OF THINGS POINTED OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT A CONDITION. AND UH, THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CHIEF AND HIS CREW TO, UH. HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHTS THROUGH THAT ROAD SO THAT THEY CAN. PULL PEOPLE OVER FOR SPEEDING. DO WHATEVER THE THINGS THEY NEED INVESTIGATE TRAFFIC SO BY HIS DIRECTION, WE HAVE ADDED A CONDITION TO THE ORDINANCE SINCE THE L P. A. THAT WILL. ALLOW THE CITY OF STUART TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. RIGHT? SO WE'VE ADDRESSED YOUR CONCERN ON THAT, SIR. SO. I KNOW THAT WE TALKED YOU MENTIONED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE EFFORT. THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD WITH THE OWNERS OF LEAKY TREE S. SO YOU MADE MANY CHANGES. HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER ADD TO THAT WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION OF HERE. THE PODIUM WITH PETITIONER, COULD YOU PLEASE HOLD IT DOWN IN THE AUDIENCE? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR MACDONALD. EXPLAIN YOUR. POINT AGAIN. OH, SO, UH, YOU TALKED EXTENSIVELY DURING YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ABOUT THE CHANGES MADE TO THE SITE PLAN REGARDING CONVERSATIONS WITH. BEACHY THREE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE WERE PRODUCTIVE. AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY I THINK ACTUALLY MADE SOME GREAT CHANGES. WHAT ABOUT DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER PROBLEMS SURROUNDING LANDOWNERS SUCH AS. RIVER LANDED WE DID MEET WITH THERE WERE TWO REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE REACHED OUT TO WITH RIVER LAND. BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEY HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE TRAFFIC IN THEIR ENTRANCE AREA, SO WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM, AND THEY SENT TWO REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE MET WITH. AND THEY SEEM TO BE SATISFIED AND I'M NOT AWARE AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM THAT THEY'VE HAD ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS AND WE TOLD THEM THEY COULD ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US. I KNOW THAT MR MARINO AND HIS FOLKS AND HE MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. MET WITH THE SUM OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ACROSS THE STREET. I'M.
MARRIOTT AND MR MAKE SURE I SAY HIS NAME DIESEL. THESE BASIL OR DIESEL. SO, UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS, UH THINGS ON THE ROAD WITH RESPECT TO THEIR INTERESTS THAT THEY HAD CONCERNS AND WE TALKED. WE SPOKE WITH THEM ALSO. OKAY. THANK YOU. POOR MR MAYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM WHAT WE'D BE HAVING ANY, UM. WITNESS TESTIMONY FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, AND THEN WE TOUCHED ON THE TREE MITIGATION THING. I DON'T HAVE A DON'T HAVE HIM PLANNED AS A PARTICIPANT, BUT HE IS HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK HIM QUESTIONS. OKAY? I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH MY COLLEAGUES APPEAR. SO WE CAN WE CAN ANSWER ANY JAPANESE HERE. THIS IS GREAT. JUST REGARDING THE MITIGATION CREDIT AND MAYBE FOR STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF SWELL. I APPRECIATE YOU WITHDRAWING THAT REQUEST. I JUST NEED TO BE UNDERSTAND. MAYBE MR MARTEL IS JUST TO BE COMPLETELY SAFE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD MAYBE CONDITION ALLIES IN APPROVAL THAT. WORK BY NATURE OF THAT BEING PRESENTED DURING THIS HEARING THAT IF THEY WERE TO COME BACK LATER AND SAY, OH, WELL ON SECOND THOUGHT WE ARE GONNA ASK ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR A CREDIT. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE.
EVEN THOUGH THEY PRESENTED THAT THEY WEREN'T UNLESS THE. BEAUTY SAID THEY CAN'T OKAY. BASED UPON THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY COULD LATER FORGET THAT. THEY SAID THAT HE HAS A GOOD MEMORY.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT NO OFFENSE TAKEN. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE GOING TO COME IN AND ASK FOR MITIGATION TREE MEDICATION CREDITS BASED ON OTHER FACTORS, BUT NOT WHAT WE PRESENTED UP HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS WHAT WE'RE AGREEING NOT TO. IN OTHER WORDS. FILL IN SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES. BUT IF WE PLAN ADDITIONAL TREES ON SIGHT IF WE DO, AND MR. BAG. IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT. DEBATABLE AS TO WHETHER NO MATTER WHAT NO MATTER WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO DETERMINE THE MITIGATION. BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE STAFF LEVEL AT SOME POINT TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT THAT CLARIFY THAT SO. DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE. IT IS A CONDITION THAT THAT LETTER. IS NOT BEING APPLIED. WE HAVE WHAT WAS WITH THE RED X BECAUSE THERE IS THERE IS A STATEMENT ON THERE THAT SAYS. FOR THE REMAINDER.WE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY STREET FUND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MITIGATION AND CREDIT. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL MITIGATE ALL OF THE TREES ON SITE THAT I WOULD RATHER WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY. IF YOU CAN SAVE ALL OF THE TREES, AND WE WOULD PREFER TO DO IT THAT WAY, TOO, IF WE CAN, BUT. SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THIS IS A MATTER OF RECORD IF A BALANCE REMAINS PAYMENT TO THE CITY OF SORT TREE MEDICATION FRONT AND THAT A CREDIT WILL NOT BE REQUESTED. NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF. YOU'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. NO, I WANTED I WANTED TO WRITE. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH E THINK WE SHOULD PRESERVE THE ISSUE. I STILL WANT TO MAKE IT ON THE 24TH. IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE YOU GUYS DELIBERATING OR NEGOTIATING MOTION. I THINK OF THE MOTION.
WE'RE SPENDING AND YOU WERE AGREE RIGHT NOW IS PART OF THE MOTION. BRING THAT UP. WE COULD LOCK IT DOWN AND MOVE ON. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND THEN REGARDING THE SITE PLAN, YOU MENTIONED THE ACCESS TO THE RICE PROPERTY OFF OF THE CENTRAL CONNECTOR ROAD. UM. SO IS THERE. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF EASEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER? OKAY? AND MAYBE TOXIC MIX. O'ROURKE ABOUT THAT MARINO'S GONNA TESTIFY. OKAY? IF YOU WANT, WE CAN. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TOUCH THAT WILL TOUCH THAT AND THEN JUST GOING BACK TO KIND OF TIE UP THE SEA BEAUTY STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES. I THOUGHT THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND. YOU WENT THROUGH THE MATH AND YOU SHOWED, GRAPHICALLY IF WE COULD HAVE THAT BACK UP, IT HAD. A COLOR CODED SECTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES. AND THEN THE LIST OF HOW YOU CALCULATED THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE FIND IT. I THINK IT WAS LIKE IN PINK OR PURPLE. NO, IT WAS YELLOW AND GRAY. YEP OKAY, SO THIS WAS THIS WAS THE THIS WAS FOR THE LAND USE PORTION OF IT. THAT'S A 14.7 ACRES. YES A SLIDE 35.
IF YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT THAT 35 IS BASICALLY HOW WE CALCULATED. CPD USES. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST THIS MAKE SENSE TO ME, AND I KNOW STEPH STAFF HAS ALREADY PRESENTED AT THE BEGINNING THAT DEATH IS GENERALLY UM. IN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS, SO THIS TABULATION OF RESIDENTIAL USES BY SQUARE FEET. STAFF THAT IS THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE WAY THAT WE WOULD. CALCULATE THE TOTAL ACREAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, RIGHT. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ALSO INCLUDE. ANYTHING ELSE? NO WE, UH THIS IS KEVIN FREEMAN DEVELOPMENT. WOMAN DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS IN SOME DETAIL THAT STAFF LEVEL. WE WORK, THEN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TO US AND WE'RE FALLING IN THERE. CONFIRMATION THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING IT. OKAY. AND SO THE GRAY. PAVEMENT AS YOU HAVEN'T LISTED THERE AND THE ORANGE BUILDINGS ARE ALL CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL USE, OKAY? THEN FINALLY SITE PLAN.
AH! GATES YES. CAN YOU JUST SHOW US ON THE SITE PLAN EXACTLY WHERE THESE GATES ARE.
THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. TROUBLE SEEING WHERE THEY WERE WITH THIS NUCLEAR, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE AS YOU COME INTO THE PROJECT, THEY WANTED TO HAVE THE CLUB ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU COULD DO SALES AND OUTSIDE OF SO, SO WE HAVE MORE OF A PUBLIC PARKING AREA HERE. WHEN DID YOU COME IN? YOU HAVE GATES HERE? AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE GATES UP HERE. AND WE HAVE A GATE. OVER. HERE IS WELL. AND THEN AT THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY AS YOU SAID, RIGHT, OKAY. YEAH, OKAY. AND WILL THOSE BE LIKE JUST YOUR STANDARD. KEYPAD OR CAR
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SCAN UP, DOWN DATE, OKAY? I THINK THAT'S IT FOR SITE PLAN. I MEAN, THAT'S MET MET HIM HERE. THANK YOU, MR RAINES. BEFORE YOU GO TO YOUR NEXT WITNESS, I HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING. OKAY I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. THAT AS MR MORTAL SAYS THAT TODAY IS THE 24TH UNTIL MIDNIGHT, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT BUSINESS WE CAN DO ON THE 24TH.IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO STAY FOR HEALTH REASONS, OR YOU WANT TO GO HOME AND HAVE SUPPER AND COME BACK. THE CITY OF STUART HAS A WEBSITE AND I BELIEVE MR PAUL, THEY CAN ZOOM IN AND IF YOU CAN WATCH. AND THEY CALL IN IF THEY ARE APPEAR ON THE WITNESS LIST, AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO STAY. YEAH. NO, NO, JUST PROBABLY. WE'RE NOT PLAYING THAT. OKAY? STAY HERE.
THEY CAN. THEY CAN WATCH FROM HOME ON OUR WEBSITE IS LIVE STREAMED, OKAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK WHEN YOU THINK YOUR NAME IS GONNA BE CALLED, AFTER ALL THE WITNESSES HAVE GONE THROUGH BY THE. ADDITION ER AS WELL AS THE PRESENTATION AND WITNESSES BY THE INTERVENER THAT IS ONE WILL BE CALLING THE GREEN CARDS AND IF YOU'RE HERE ON A GREEN CARD. YOU WANT A PRESENT AND MAKE A COMMENT? THAT'S ONE WILL BE DOING THAT SO. JUST GET YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY AND WE HAVE RESTROOMS UP THE LANDING. AND IF THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE HAVE A RESTROOM OUT THERE. WE HAVE LOTS OF RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN. MISTER, YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, MR IF IT'S WHAT IS STILL BEING QUESTIONED A FEW ALL THROUGH WITH MR FITZWATER. AN INTERVENER IS WE'RE WE'RE DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR TO MARKET, MR BAG. IT, UH. MR BECKETT, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR? YEAH. DAVINA WOULD LIKE. ASKING QUESTIONS. MR THE INNOVATOR HAS A QUESTION OF MISS IF IT'S WATER. YOU HEAR THAT? SORRY. ALL RIGHT, IT DOESN'T OKAY. AGAIN LINDA KING RICHARD? YES, WHEN WAS THIS PRESENTATION SUBMITTED TO THE CITY? IT WAS SUBMITTED WAY. PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE HERE. NOT THE WEBSITE, BUT WE PUT IT ON A SERVER. OR CLIMB. OKAY, UM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A POINT OF ORDER OR NOT. MY PRESENTATION WAS DUE TO THE CITY ON MAY 12TH UM. I WAS NOT GIVEN ACCESS TO THE STEP TO THE APPLICANTS. PRESENTATION ON GWEN. WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OUT OF TODAY. WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHAT I SAID TO JERRY WAS HAND ME THE DIGITAL STICK AND I CAN PUT IT. ON THE COMPUTER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE IT WITH HIM. IT'S THE POLICY OF THE CITY THAT WE WANTED EVERYTHING ON THAT WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE AGENDA FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO GO INTO THE AGENDA. AND THAT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFOREHAND, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY IT COULD GO INTO THE AGENDA. I AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED YOU A COPY OF IT THIS AFTERNOON, SO WE GOT IN AND I DIDN'T GET IT EITHER.
UM BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I SUPPOSE WHAT WE WAY COULD GO THROUGH IS IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY ANYTHING THAT THEY DIDN'T BRING UP WITH THE L P A. THERE WAS LIKE NEW INFORMATION THAT ESSENTIALLY CONSIDERED CONSTITUTES SANDBAGGING OR. OR A NEW ISSUE THAT WASN'T BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT SOMEBODY WAS UNAWARE OF THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THAT AND HAVE THE COMMISSION TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY NEW INFORMATION HE STOLE FROM OUR PRESENTATION AND USED INTO HIS PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT THEY WERE. THEY WERE SAYING PRIOR TO THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WAKEN TELL THE INTERVENER WAS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE APPLICANT. WELL, THE I'LL TELL THE PUBLIC IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY LOOKED AT THE APPLICANT SLIDES AS PART OF THE AGENDA THAT WAS RELEASED LAST WEEK. AND TOOK SOME OF THE INFORMATION OFF THOSE SLIDES AND RESPONDED TO IT IN THEIR PRESENTATION. WE WEREN'T GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEIR PRESENTATION. I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU WEREN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THERE. POWER POINT PRESENTATION, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU DID SEE THEIR ENTIRE SITE PLAN THEIR ENTIRE LP, A PRESENTATION THEIR ENTIRE. APPLICATION THE.
EVERY ENGINEERING THE TRAFFIC REPORT WITH. I THINK THE PACKET THERE PACKET WAS OVER 100 PAGES
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OF DATA AND INFORMATION. SO TO SAY THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING TO BE A LITTLE MISS.MISLEADING I DID YOU AGREE WITH YOU THAT I WISH THAT I HAD HAD THEIR POWER POINT ADVANCE. WE COULD HAVE SHARED IT WITH YOU BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS MORE FAIR, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S DEMONSTRATIVE. IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY EVIDENCE ANYWAY. I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE MY PRESENTATION THAT THEY COULD VALUE IT BEFOREHAND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MIRE THAN COMMISSIONER METH VICE MAYOR MASTERSON. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND BETTER BECAUSE THIS IS. MY FIRST TIME WITH THIS AS WELL. IT COULDN'T FOLLOW THAT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A DEMONSTRATIVE PRESENTATION DISCUSSING SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS ALREADY COULDN'T FOLLOW THAT.
INTERVENER. MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO CREATE A SEPARATE PRISON TASTE. WITH THAT. HEY, THERE'S TODAY. OKAY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. I DIDN'T. BUT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN WHAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PRESENT THEIR CASE, TOO, SO THAT IT COULD BE ADOPTED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM. LET ME FINISH AS AS THE APPLICANT. ALSO HAD TO SUBMIT ALL OF THE SITE PLANS AND ENGINEERING AND ALL THAT. AND THEN BOTH PARTIES COULD HAVE CREATED A SEPARATE. ICING ON THE CAKE PRESENTATION TO PROVIDE TODAY. WELL WHAT. GET EIGHT IN A SITUATION WITH AN INTERVENE WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THERE'S NOT AN INTERVENER, IT'S A REGULAR PRACTICE FOR THE APPLICANT TO SIMPLY COME WITH THE POWER POINT THE NIGHT OF THE THING AND GIVE IT TO STAFF AND STAFF SAVES. IT IS A PUBLIC RECORD. THERE'S AN INTERVENER. CLERK, IT ASKED. EVERYBODY GIVE EVERYTHING BY A CERTAIN DATE, AND THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF AND INFECT. ONE OF THE THINGS WAS A REVISED SITE PLAN FROM THE OPEN MEETING COULDN'T BE DONE BY THAT DAY. AND AS A RESULT, ANY TESTIMONY GIVEN TONIGHT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SURPRISE BECAUSE IT WASN'T PROVIDED BEFORE TONIGHT. SO FROM AN EVIDENCE PERSPECTIVE THE REAL CONCEPT IS. THE APPLICANT HAS TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING BEFORE THEY EVEN GET SET FOR THE L A. P. A MEETING.
HOWEVER. IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE WEEK BEFORE. IT'S UNFAIR TO NOT HAVE THE INTERVENER INCLUDED IN THAT PRESENTATION, SO OUR INTENTION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY IS ACTUALLY PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE WHEN IT'S CLICKED ON THE AGENDA. AS WELL AS TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY READING IN CONTEMPLATING IT OVER THE WEEKEND. THIS WAS NOT PART OF THAT FOR YOU TO CONTEMPLATE OVER THE WEEKEND, EITHER. BUT TO BE ITS AGAIN. I WISH IT WAS EARLIER AND I WISH I COULD GIVE HIM A COPY. BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT'S A DEMONSTRATIVE EVIDENCE. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY PART OF THE WAGON. YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO DO IT, OKAY? IT'S MADAM MAYOR. UM. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. OKAY COMMISSION THAT'S WAS BEFORE ONE COME INTO RANGE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT WAS NOT IN THE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS. YET. YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, THEY MEAN TESTIMONY. YES UM ABOUT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM RUNNING FROM A DOCUMENT POINT OF VIEW. IT WAS IT WAS TESTIMONY. YOUR PRESENTATION WAS ALL TESTIMONY REGARDING THE DOCUMENTS IT WAS BASED ON IT WAS BASED ON BUT THERE WAS NO NEW DOCUMENTS THAT WERE NOT IN THE WAY OF REPORTS OR SITE PLANS OR ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO THAT. I MEAN, WE HAVE. PRESENCE YOU KNOW, MISS MR ROURKE'S GONNA BE PROVIDING A TESTIMONY AND SHE'LL IT'S REGARDING HER TRAFFIC REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S S O AGAIN. I MEAN, WE'RE PROVIDING TESTIMONY. EVIDENCE IS TO WHAT. WE'RE PROPOSING HERE SO AND I THINK THE OTHER THING WITH THE INTERVENER IS AGAIN OUR STUFF HAS BEEN IN FOREVER. SO THE WHOLE POINT IS, THAT IS SO THAT THE INTERVENER DOESN'T POP UP ON THE NIGHT WITH THEIR WHOLE CASE. DIDN'T NEED TO SEE YOUR PRESENTATION.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR HER PRESENTATION. THAT WAS THAT WAS IN THE PACKET AND. NOT MARRIED THAT THE PRESENTATIONS CAN CAN EVOLVE EITHER ONE. YOU KNOW, THE INTERVENER CAN ADJUST. THE PRESENTATION HAS FOR WHAT THEY HEAR. AND I. RECOMMEND THEY DO SO IF IT'S THEIR PLEASURE. TO ADJUST FOR THIS, BUT DID SO RIGHT UPTO. PROCEED FORWARD. THANK YOU. PLEASE QUALIFIED MR BAGGAGE AND LET HIM PROCEED. OKAY UH, MR BAG IT ONCE AGAIN, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? DAVID BAG IT. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, SIR? YES SIR. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE FOR THE RECORD YOUR EDUCATION IN HISTORY? YEAH, I HAVE A BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREE AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING. HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSE AND CIVIL WATER RESOURCE IS MOST OF THAT CONSULTING BUT A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IN THE REGULATORY SIDE.
CAN'T YOU? HE'S IDENTIFIED THE PAPER THAT I JUST HANDED YOU SURE IT'S ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. AND IS THAT AN UP TO DATE AND ACCURATE? REPRESENTATION. IT IS. OKAY.
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UH, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ROLE FOR THE PROJECT? I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER OF RECORD. OKAY.AND DID YOU PREPARE THE ENGINEERING PLANS FOR THE PROJECT IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. YES SIR. OKAY. PLEASE PLEASE PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR. THAT AMERICAN INSURERS THANKS FOR HAVING US TONIGHT AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL. UM. YOU KNOW, THESE OCCASIONS CAN OFTEN BE TENSE AND HEAVY WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GET PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND WE ALL KNOW. WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT, BUT I'M ACTUALLY VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS HERE TONIGHT. I HOPE THE FOLLOWING SLIDES OUR INFORMATIVE TO EVERYBODY. BUT ALSO. HELP YOU HELP YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH HAS GONE INTO THIS PROJECT? I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK IN THE REGULATORY SIDE. AS I NOTED ON THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS FOR A PORTION OF MY CAREER, I WAS REGULATORY ENGINEER FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA REVIEWING DRAINAGE SYSTEMS FROM. SWANEE RIVER DOWN TO THE TREASURE COAST. THAT PERIOD OF TIME IN MY CAREER WAS SPENT LARGELY AROUND THE TIME THAT THE NEW REGULATIONS AND NEW FOCUS ON. LOT OF QUALITY OF STORM WATER IS COMING OUT NITROGEN PHOSPHORUS DISCHARGES TO OUR WATERWAYS. SO AGAIN, A LOT OF VALUABLE EXPERIENCE THAT THAT I TOOK BACK TO CONSULTING WITH ME. ON DEPLOYED THAT HERE? I'VE ALSO BEEN FORTUNE ENOUGH TO WORK ON A LOT OF PROJECTS ALONG THIS STRETCH OF CANDOR HIGHWAY. THE CLARITY POINT OF MEMORY CARE FACILITTRIP NEXT TO IT THE CLEAR AND MOST RECENTLY, THE CLEVELAND CLINIC SITE. I WAS ENGINEERED RECORD ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS. I KNOW THIS AREA VERY, VERY WELL. AND IN SPEAKING TERMS OF THIS PROJECT IN COMPARISON TO THOSE. THIS IS AN ELEVATED PROJECT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT OF ON DEVIATIONS FROM THE CODE. ON GUY COULD ALMOST SAY THE SAME OF MINE. BUT IN THE WAY THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT IS THAT. PRIMARILY AND IN THE WORLD OF DRAINAGE. THIS PROJECT IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NORMALLY SEEN ON PROJECTS IN THE AREA. SO WE'LL START WITH GOING. AN OVERVIEW OF THE EXISTING DRAINAGE ON THE PROPERTY. EVERYTHING GENERALLY GOES FROM EAST TO WEST TOWARDS THE ST LUCIE RIVER, BUT KIND OF MAKES ITS WAY THROUGH. UH A FEW DIFFERENT FORMS OF STORAGE ON SIDE AND DISCHARGE. STARTING AT AT THE WILLOUGHBY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OFFSITE AREA THAT ENTERS OFF OF CONNECTIONS UNDER WILLOUGHBY AND OFF THE ROAD.
THAT GOES INTO A DITCH AND ENTERS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT DITCHES DIRECTED ALL THE WAY ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH CANDOR HIGHWAY AND OUT TO THE SAME LUCY RARER MM. PRIMER THAT PRIMARILY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE IS COLLECTED THROUGH DEPRESSION ALL AREAS AND ROUTED DOWN SOUTH TO THAT DITCHES. WELL, CANTOR HIGHWAY WAS IMPROVED AS WE'VE NOTED EARLIER IN THE EVENING, THE NIGHT AND THE STORM WATER SYSTEM WAS. INSTRUCTED ON THIS PROPERTY TO SERVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT EXISTING LAKE OUT FALLS ON THE WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARY UNDERNEATH CANDOR HIGHWAY TO THE SAME LUCIE RIVER. LOOK. THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE, EYES COLLECTED IN A LOCALIZED DEPRESSION ALL AREAS AND A MAN MADE POND WITH AN OUTFALL TO EXISTING MARTIN COUNTY DITCH THAT THEN ALSO GOES IN THE ST LUCIE RIVER. AND THEN THERE'S A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT COLLECTS AND A LOW MAN MADE A POND AREA ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY THAT IS SHARED WITH BLEACHER TREAT PROPERTY ON DCA LEX THERE AND CONTINUES TO THE NORTH UNDER A POINTER. YOU HAVE WHAT I LIKE TO POINT OF THE CHURCH. THERE IS ONE SOMEWHERE. OH, YEAH, I CAN. I CAN USE THE MOUSE. YES. SO THAT YOU'RE BACK. THIS THIS AS I WAS SAYING HERE THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT OFFSIDE AREA THAT COLLECTS INTO A DITCH AND CONTINUES IN THE SOUTH AND DIRECTLY DISCHARGES HERE. DINNER HIGHWAY IS COLLECTED INTO THIS LAKE AND DISCHARGES UNDER THE ROAD OUT TO THE RIVER. THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS COLLECTED INTO A MARTIN COUNTY DITCH THAT THEN CONTINUES WEST INTO THE SINISTER RIVER. AND THIS KIND OF NORTHERN MIDDLE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY COLLECTS WITH SHARE A POND AT THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE TEA TREE FARM PROBLEM. THIS IS ANOTHER. UH JUST MORE INFORMATION ON THE SAME SUMMARY THAT I JUST GAVE YOU, BUT SO YOU CAN KIND OF VISUALLY SEE THOSE AREAS. THE MAJOR TAKEAWAY FROM THIS SLIDE IS HOW MUCH CONTRIBUTING AREA ACTUALLY IS CURRENTLY NOT TREATED ON THE PROPERTY. I'LL BE IT NOT NOT ENTIRELY DEVELOPED, SOME HISTORICALLY DISTURB SOME NOT DISTURBED. YOU DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AREA UPSTREAM. THE BLUE AREA HERE IS THE IS THE LARGEST DRAINAGE AREA ON THE PROPERTY. AND COLLECTS ITS WAY. OFF OFF SITE FROM UPSTREAM PROPERTIES WILL BE BOULEVARD INTO THE DITCH. MAKES ITS WAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY THIS WAY AND GETS COLLECTED BY THIS MAIN DITCH AND OUTFALLS UNDERNEATH THE ROAD. THIS THE YELLOW AREA HERE
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WAS THERE. I WAS DESCRIBING THAT OUT FALLS DIRECTLY AND YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTION THERE TO THE NORTH MARTIN COUNTY DITCH. THIS IS THE AREA THAT SHOWS THE DEPRESSION OF POND AREA HERE AT THE PROPERTY LINE OF LEECHES TREE. MOST SIGNIFICANT, THOUGH, ON THIS IS THAT. THE ORANGE AREA IS THE ONLY AREA CURRENTLY WITH A CONSTRUCTIVE STROM OUR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE AREAS THAT ACTUALLY RECEIVE STORM WATER TREATMENT. THE REMAINDER.IS UNTREATED, NOT IN A PERMITTED OR CONSTRUCTED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, SO THE TWO ARROWS ON THE. LEFT OF THAT'S F DOT STORM WATER TREATMENT AREA THAT YOU SAID THE ONLY AREAS. RECEIVING TREATMENT. OF THOSE TWO SEPARATE OUTFLOWS ON HER CANDOR HIGHWAY THERE. WEIR'S IN THAT STORM WATER TREATMENT AREA THAT PRIOR TO THE. GOING UNDER CANDOR HIGHWAY OR HOW IS THAT THEY ARE TOO. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE CONNECTIONS. SO WHAT? WHAT IS AN ORANGE HERE? IS DIRECTED INTO THE F D A T LAKE ON OUR PROPERTY AND THEN DISCHARGES THROUGH A CONSTRUCTED STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CONTROL STRUCTURE. THE BLUE AREA IS COLLECTED IN THIS DITCH HERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE.
AND THIS ROUTED AROUND THE D O T LAKE AND 2 TO 24 INCH CULVERTS UNDERNEATH. OF. CANTOR HIGHWAY, SO IT'S DIRECT DISCHARGE OFF SITE. NONE OF THE BLUE GOES INTO THE F D. O T POND. THAT'S CORRECT. IT IS TREATED. OKAY. AND THEN ALL OF THE ORANGE FROM CANADA HIGHWAY GOES INTO THE F D. O T PON, AND THAT IS THROUGH THEM BACK OUT. OKAY? THANK YOU. S OH, THIS IS JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE AND I'M GONNA TOUCH ON ALL THESE VERY SPECIFICALLY, BUT.
WHAT WE RE ENFORCED ON THIS PROJECT WAS THE NATIVE FLORIDA VEGETATION FIELD. AND HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE THAT WITH THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY BENEFITS BUT ALSO MAKE THE PROJECT A BIT MORE AESTHETIC. HAS COMPARED. TO YOUR NORMAL RETENTION DETENTION SYSTEMS S O. THE HEART OF THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE OUR OUR DETENTION LAKES WERE CONSTRUCTING TWO NEW ONES AND EXPANDING AND EGGS. THE EXISTING BOT LAKE. BE IMPROVING THE LATERALS IN THE PLANTINGS AROUND THAT DEA T BASIN AS WELL AS AS GOING ABOVE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR LITTLE SHELVES AROUND THESE OTHER LAKES. WE'VE OPTED TO DISTRIBUTE DRIVER ATTENTION AREAS ACROSS THE PROPERTY TO GIVE SOME PRE TREATMENT BEFORE THEY GO INTO LAKES DRIVE ATTENTION PONDS TEND TO PROVIDE BETTER NUTRIENT NITROGEN FOSTER'S REMOVAL THAN THE LAKES. DO OR OR ELEVATED. UM, AMOUNT OF TREATMENT ABOVE WHAT THE LAKES CAN PROVIDE. WE'VE INTEGRATED THE BIO DETENTION SHELF ON THIS. THIS WILL BE MORE OF AN AREA RATHER THAN STAND ALONE. DRY RETENTION AREA. THIS WOULD BE MORE INTEGRATED INTO THE LAKE AND BE PLANTED WITH EMERGING VEGETATION AND WETLANDS AND PROBABLY SOME OF YOUR CYPRESS TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE ALSO. PROPOSING IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA, YOU KNOW WHERE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THE ASSOCIATED USES UNDERGROUND EX FILTRATION WHICH WILL BE ANOTHER MEANS OF RETAINING WATER AND RETURNING THAT BACK TO THE GROUND WATER. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO NOW PROPOSING A NUTRIENT FILTRATION SYSTEM, SOMETHING CALLED AN UP FLOW FILTER AT THE PROJECT OUT FALL TO CANTER HIGHWAY. I'LL TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MIMIC THE EXISTING DRAINAGE CONDITIONS ACROSS THE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, IN FLOWS COMING IN FROM THE EAST. AND COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO OUR OUTFALL ON THE WEST SIDE AND THEN ALSO UTILIZING THIS. THIS EXISTING OUTFALL HERE AND TRYING. TOLO MAN DRAW OFF AT THAT POINT AS WELL. SO I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH A TYPICAL WHAT DETENTION SYSTEM AND THERE'S PROBABLY NO BETTER EXAMPLE THAN THE LAKE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS. UM. YOU KNOW, I ADDED THE NOTE ON THE LEFT HAND OF THIS SLIDE TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU KNOW THE CITY. STUART'S CODE LARGELY FOLLOW SUIT WITH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CRITERIA. AND IN IN THEIR EUROPEAN MANUAL, THEY SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT THE LITTLE LAWYERS OR DESIRABLE.
AND TYPICALLY THERE A MINIMUM OF 20% OF YOUR WHAT DETENTION LEG. THE END RESULT OF JUST ME OF IT. BEING DESIRABLE IS A HARD LINE CODE IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE. YOU GET STARTED BANKS.
THEY WORK WELL, THEY TREAT STORMWATER. THEY MANAGE FLOOD PROTECTION, BUT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL BENEFIT BEYOND THAT. REALLY. YOU GET YOUR STANDARD STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN ENHANCED WHAT DETENTION SYSTEM. WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS ON LATORRE PLANTINGS. NOT JUST FOR THE AESTHETIC PART OF IT, BUT LIKE I SAID, IN THE BEGINNING MY PRESENTATION MORE FOR THAT FLORIDA FEEL MORE FOR THE WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS. WE WILL GET SOME ADDITIONAL REMOVAL OF. THOSE WATER QUALITY
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CONSTITUENTS THAT WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT IN THAT SYSTEM. SIMILAR WITH THE DRIVER ATTENTION. SOUTH FLORIDA'S MANUAL. THE LANGUAGE IN THAT INDICATES IT'S A BASIN BOTTOM GRATED FLAT TURF ESTABLISHED TO PROMOTE INFILTRATION, STABILIZED FACING SLOPES AND RESULT IS SOMETHING SOMEWHERE DO YOU SEE HERE? GRASSED OPEN SPACE AREA THAT STORE STORM WATER WITH THE CONTROL STRUCTURE IN IT, BUT ONE ON THE RIGHT'S NOT SO BAD GOT SOME LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE GOT SOME CYPRESS TREES AND PLANT IT IN THAT, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO TRY AND ELEVATE THAT. I WANTED TO PROPOSE, AND THIS DOESN'T LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE OUR SITE, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE THAT I'VE HAD PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE ON THAT. I'M I'M GOING TO CARRY OVER INTO THIS PROJECT. THIS IS MANTI ISLES ON MANTI POCKET.IT'S IN MARTIN COUNTY, BUT NOT FAR FROM HERE. THIS WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO INTEGRATE JUST WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. WETLAND PLANTINGS, TRANSITIONAL PLANTINGS. TEAMMATE THAT STORM WATER AREA NOT FEEL LIKE JUST A TYPICAL DR ATTENTION AREA, YOU KNOW, DR DETENTION AREA. ONDO ALSO PROVIDE A BENEFIT. I MEAN, THERE'S HOMES THAT ARE FRONTING THIS THIS AERIALS WHILE IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY A MARKETING MECHANISM TO TOL. HAVE THAT THIS TOE OVER THE WATER WHEN. WE WERE GOING TO THE APPROVALS IN THE CONSTRUCTION ON THIS. THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM MARTIN COUNTY STAFF WAS THIS WAS THE WAY WE WANT. WE WANT TO PUSH STORM WATER SYSTEMS IF WE COULD DO IT, AND SO I DID THAT ACTUALLY SAYS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND INTEGRATE HERE ON OUR PROJECT AS WELL. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH. YOU HAVE FULL SUPPORT FROM MR MARINO FOR ALL THE FUNDING FOR THESE EXCITEMENT'S IS THAT CORRECT? THANKS SO. THIS WAS NOT AS EXCITING BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVER GET TO SEE IT. BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST EXAMPLE OF EX FILTRATION WILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT UNDERNEATH THE PAID THERE IS TO GET SOME 60. RIGHT? UM. THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING PART. SO YOU KNOW, WE AS WE INDICATED IN DOUG'S PRESENTATION, WE HEARD THE CONCERNS. TIED TO TREAT MITIGATION AND TO REALLY TRY AND PUSH THE INTENT OF THE CODE OF INNOVATIVE STORM WATER. AND SO THE OPTION THAT WE'RE EXPLORING NOW AND WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN SINCE. WE'VE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS LIST INCORPORATED NUTRIENT REMOVAL FILTRATION SYSTEM. SO WHAT THIS IS THIS IS A BOX THAT GOES DOWNSTREAM OF OUR LAKE SYSTEM PRIOR TO DISCHARGING FROM THE PROPERTY. THE WATER FROM THE STORM WATER SYSTEM BLEEDS DOWN THROUGH THIS FIRST BAFFLE HERE. COMES UNDERNEATH WHERE ALL THE SOLIDS AND PHOTOS AND EVERYTHING ELSE KIND OF GET TRAPPED SO WE CAN MAINTAIN A CLEAN NOSE OUT. BUT THE PRESSURE OF THE WATER IN THE LAKE PUSHES IT UP THROUGH FILTER MEDIA. FILTER MEDIA REMOVES NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS ON THEN ALLOWS MORE TREATED WATER TO DISTRACT FROM THE SYSTEM. IT'S INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY AND, WE'RE EXCITED THAT I'M EXCITED. I GUESS I SHOULD SAY GOOD. SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTIONS CONCERNS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TOUCH ON L P A.
WITH THEIR MEANS RELEASED A TREE FARM WAS IN THE CONSTRUCTION, THE DEA T LAKE THEY. THEY HAD LIMITED SPACE. YOU GOTTA THINK WHEN THEY CONSTRUCT THOSE LEGS. THEY'RE ONLY WORKING IN THE LIMITATIONS THAT THEY HAVE. THEY ONLY HAVE EASEMENTS OVER THE PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT LAKE. SO WHEN YOU PUMP DOWN THE WATER TO CONSTRUCT, SAID LAKE. YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WAYS TO MANAGE YOUR DE WATERING OTHER THAN TO MOVE IT DOWNSTREAM. BECAUSE WE ARE THE LAND OF UPPER ON THE WHOLE PROPERTY WILL BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT RECHARGE TRENCHES AROUND THE SENSITIVE AREAS ON OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES TO KEEP THAT WATER HYDRATED S SO THEY DON'T SEE ANY ADVERSE WATER LEVEL DROPS WHEN WE GO TO CONSTRUCT OUR LEGS OR NEAR ANY OF OUR UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS AND. THAT PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS JUST A EXAMPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS WHERE IT GETS EMPLOYED. SWITCHING GEARS TO UTILITIES. THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE REALLY WELL SET UP ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IN THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. ALL HAVE WATER AND SEWER. THE NORTHERN DOESN'T HAVE A SEWER, BUT THE. WILLOUGHBY FRONTAGE AND THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY. DO. WE'RE GOING TO BE EXTENDING A WATER MAIN ACROSS THE FRONTAGE PER OUR COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF STUART UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE. GO BACK. SO YOU SEE HERE? WILL ALSO BE CONSTRUCTING A CITY OF STUART LIFT STATION. BEYOND THAT ALL UTILITIES WILL BE PRIVATE CITIES. THERE WAS TO BE THE SERVICE PROVIDER BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH GOOD COVERAGE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN NEW MAINS THAT CITY SAID HE'S GONNA HAVE TO MAINTAIN WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT ON BEN. ON THE NEXT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE WE'LL BE INSTALLING FIRE MAIN LOOP THROUGH THE. SITE ONE OF THE
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COMMENTS AT OPA WAS USING REGARDS TO FIRE PROTECTION. WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE TIME, SO THIS IS THIS LIGHT IS REALLY MEANT TO REINFORCE THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON THAT. WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH CITIES. STUART FIRE MARSHAL AND EVERYONE INVOLVED ON THAT FRONT TO DEMONSTRATE HOW WE CAN NAVIGATE THE SITE SAFELY WITH A FIRE TRUCK. TURNING RADIUS IS FOR THOSE WHO SPECIFICALLY USING THE SIZES OF THEIR TRUCKS TO DO SO. THE FIRE MAIN LOOP THAT WILL BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THROUGH THE PROPERTY WILL ALLOW US TO DISTRIBUTE HYDRANTS ACROSS THE SITE. GET THOSE CLOSE ENOUGH TO FIRE DEPARTMENT CONNECTIONS WHERE THEY GET HOSES. THE RED SPAGHETTI LINES THAT YOU SEE ON HERE DON'T MEAN MUCH ON THIS SLIDE, BUT WHAT THEY DEMONSTRATE ON THE SHEETS THAT WE SUBMITTED IN OUR PACKAGE WAS. THE HOST POOL LENGTHS FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET FROM THE TRUCKS TO THE HYDRANTS AND AROUND THE BUILDINGS. WE DID THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MULTI FAMILY. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FULL ACCESS AROUND HIM WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. BUT THERE ARE BREE'S WAYS WHERE IT WERE ABLE TO ROUTE HOSES THROUGH SPACES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE REMAINING THE MANNER OF THE PROJECT. THERE'S FULL ACCESS AROUND ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND THEY WILL BE SPRINKLED SO. AND WITH THAT, THAT THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION. UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR MR BAGGA. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT I THINK I FORGOT TO MENTION ON THE RECORD THAT I DID HAND TO MISS KENDALL APPLICANTS. EXHIBIT TWO, WHICH IS MR BAGGINS RESUME, SO WOULD LIKE FOR THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT WE GET OUR $7. HEY WHAT ARE YOU TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. OH, HUH? SO, UH, STRABAG. I'D LIKE TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION. WE'RE SECOND. I OBJECTED TO MR SNACKER STATEMENT. BUT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS STILL A PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CROSS EXAMINE HIM TO DETERMINE WHETHER HE'S AN EXPERT OR NOT. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE HAD IN HIS.STATEMENT IS THAT YOU COULD ANSWER SOME OF THOSE WITH RESPECT TO HIS COMMENTS. HE SAYS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SUCH MODELING THE INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE AND STANDARD IS ALWAYS.
IS TO ALWAYS MODEL ON THE BASIS OF IN ONE INCH 100 YEAR EVENT, ANYTHING LESS THAN THIS CAN CREATE A BOGUS RESULT. HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT, SIR? I THINK IT MEANS A ONE IN 100 YEARS, NOT ONE INCH IN. UH WELL, LET'S SAY ONE INCH, OKAY? AND EITHER WAY, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE STATEMENT. WE ACTUALLY MODEL VARIOUS STORMS FOR DIFFERENT FACETS OF DESIGN. 100 YEARS TYPICALLY DESIGNED TYPICALLY MODELS FOR THE 100 YEARS FOR THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURES. TENURE ONE DAY STORM IS MODELED FOR PARKING LOT AND ROAD PROTECTION AND THE 25 YEARS STORM. 3 25 YEAR, THREE DAYS. STORM IS MODELED FOR DETERMINE YOUR LEVEL DISCHARGE RATE FROM THE PROPERTY. OKAY, SO ALL SO ALL MODELING TODAY, HE SAYS CONSIDERS A 100 YEAR EVENT BUT THE DEVELOPER IN ITS APPLICATION. USED A ONE IN 25 YEARS, MAN, IS THAT. RESPONSE TO THAT IS ZIM PARTIAL WE? IT'S ALL THREE OF THOSE STORMS I JUST DESCRIBED ARE THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD BE OKAY? WELL HE SAYS THAT THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM, SINCE IT MEANS THEY'VE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED A RETENTION POND SMALLER THAN THEY SHOULD BE. TONIGHT INACCURATE STATEMENT. UM. HE SAYS THAT IS TO CALCULATE RAINFALL IN THE SIZE OF RETENTION POND. THEY HAVE USED A FACTOR OF 2.5 INCHES OF RAIN PER HOUR FREE ONE IN 25 YEAR EVENT, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE USED. 4.8 INCHES, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF RAIN FOR A ONE IN 100 YEAR EVENT. RESPONSE TO THAT. INACCURATE STATEMENT. THE 25 YEARS IN 11.5 IN STORM THE 100 YEAR STORM IS 14 INCHES, SO THAT WELL EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT THAT HE SAID THAT. SAYS, SINCE THE PONDS OR HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, THE EVENT OF A LARGE RAINSTORM IN THE EVENT OF A LARGE RAINSTORM. THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT OVERFLOW INTO THE ST LUCIE RIVER. YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, SIR. THAT THE SYSTEM BE DESIGNED TO THE STORMS THAT I DESCRIBED ON ALLOW WILL DISCHARGE RATE WILL BE BASED ON THAT. THAT THERE. IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT IT'S REQUIRED TO BE. UM. THE DEVELOPER CONTENDS THAT ANY RUNOFF FROM IMPERVIOUS SURFACES CONTAINING OIL DRIPPINGS TRANSMISSION FLUID AND OTHER POLLUTANTS FROM TRUCKS AND CARS WILL IMMEDIATELY SINK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RETENTION POND. YOUR RESPONSE TODAY. COMMENT, SIR. OILS AND GREASES YOU TYPICALLY COLLECTED IN THE FIRST FLUSH OF RUNOFF. IT'S WHY WE INCLUDE BAFFLES AND SKIMMERS ON THE CONTROL STRUCTURES TO MANAGE THOSE. BUT THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED TO TREAT. ATTAIN THOSE CONSTITUENTS ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED
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THAT YOU SUBMITTED OR THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTED. HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONTENTION? BUT THE NOW FLUTES WILLIAM THAT CONTENDED THAT STATEMENT. UM. THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS HIS STATEMENT, SO GET BACK. STRABAG. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE? YES, SIR. AND ARE YOU ALSO FAMILIAR, SIR, WITH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND SOUTHWARD WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT? YES, SIR. AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DO THE PROPOSED ENGINEERING PLANS YOU SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT NEED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY. STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THERE. IT IS. YOU'RE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THE WATER QUALITY THAT WILL BE LEAVING THE SITE POST DEVELOPMENT. WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE WATER QUALITY THAT IS CURRENTLY LIVING THE SENSOR SYSTEM WE REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE A NET IMPROVEMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR ALTERNATE OVER TO THE INTERVENER. YOU'RE THE COMMISSIONER. RICHARDS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FLAKE OR COMMISSIONERS. MR BAG. IT. ARE YOU AWARE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PERMIT NUMBER 43-1031 NINE FIVE DASH P. YES, MA'AM. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DAY THAT WAS ISSUED? SOMETIME WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.HAVE THE DOCUMENT 2020. HOW MANY ACRES WERE THAT CONCEPTUAL PERMIT FOR? COVERED WHEN COSTCO WAS THE ONLY PROPOSED PORTION OF THE PROJECT. SO IT WAS ROUGHLY AROUND 32 ACRES CRACK.
SO THE CONCEPTUAL PERMITS THAT YOU'RE BASING THIS ON IS A PERMIT THAT WAS REPORTEDLY TOLD SITE PLAN. THAT WAS FOR 32.61 ACRES THAT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. THIS PROJECT WILL REQUIRE MODIFICATION THAT FROM SO YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS PERMIT IS NOT A IS NOT. IT COMES WITH CONSTRUCTION LEVEL PLANS IN AUTHORIZATIONS. OKAY SO THEN WHY WOULD THE CONCEPTUAL PERMIT BEEN ASKED FOR IN AUGUST. AS IT WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN. AND ARE YOU NOT TALKING ABOUT SITE PLAN NOW? IT'S NOT THE SAME SITE PLANS. REMEMBER THIS APPLICATION. RIGHT, SO YOU HAVE TO REQUEST A NEW CONCEPTUAL PERMIT. THAT'S CORRECT. DID THIS CONCEPTUAL PERMIT THAT IS IN YOUR APPLICATION? IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PROJECT IS THE PERMANENT WE WILL HAVE TO MODIFY. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ONE OF MY RIGHT? COLLEAGUES COULD ASK SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL. OR IS IT JUST I WHO HAS TESSA QUESTIONS ALL MR BUGGIT? IT'S A MORTAL. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM IS IT RELATED TO THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE HAVE A FAN? HONESTLY, I FIRST OF ALL. I COULD PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE INTERVENER, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS. OKAY IT'S JERRY, BUT I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO PERSON WITH THIS.
DOES THE SITE PLAN? UM DO YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS ALL THE WETLANDS REGARDLESS OF PLAN IMPACTS ON THE SITE PLAN. I DIDN'T SEE ONE. NONE OF THE EXHIBITS THAT I PREPARED MY OFFICE HAVE THOSE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS TO WHY YOU DIDN'T BECAUSE IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE COM PLANNED TO HAVE A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS ALL THE EXISTING WETLANDS AND SURFACE WATERS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THE APPLICANTS? RESPONSE TO WHY THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT. I'M NOT THE PROFESSIONAL TO PROVIDE THE ANSWER. OKAY SO THE RESPONSE WAS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. WE'RE RESOLVED IN IMPACTS TO ALL WETLANDS. AND ALL OTHER SURFACE WATERS. THE WETLANDS PROPOSED FOR IMPACTS WILL BE PERMITTED. IF WE ASSUME THEY WILL BE PERMITTED TO THE SOUTHWARD, WATERMAN PREDICTED AND PROPOSED TO BE MITIGATED OFF SITE. I AM SO ALL THE WETLANDS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED EVERY SINGLE ONE.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID ARE NO, I'M ASKING. I ASKED HIM WHAT IT WAS, AND I'M TELLING IT WAS ASKING HIM IS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ALL IT DOWN. THANK YOU. NO, I AM. OKAY. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK THE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT IN THE MATERIAL THAT HE'S PRESENTED EXISTING WETLANDS GOING TO BE IMPACTED. SANDERSON. THAT'S CORRECTABLE. ONCE I MUST CLARIFY, I DID NOT PREPARE ANY OF THOSE MATERIALS SPECIFIC TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. THANK YOU. MISS LINDA.
OKAY. COULD YOU PLEASE STAND THERE? PLEASE HOLD ON, MR MARTEL. SO DO WE NEED TO QUALIFY THAT MISS ESCAPE IS USING THIS PERSON AS A WITNESS OR IS AN EXPERT. TO ASK A QUESTION. WITNESSES AND EXPERTS CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS SO THEY CAN'T BE A WITNESS. OR NEXT, MISS ME. SHERLOCK COULD ASK QUESTIONS, BOY, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HE COULD TESTIFY TO IT WHEN HE'S WHEN HE TESTIFIED. YEAH. IT'S YOUR
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TURN. THANK YOU. WELL, QUESTIONS. HOLD ON. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH QUESTIONS FOR MR VEGA ON OUR SIDE ON THE COMMISSION? WE'LL START WITH OUR VICE MADE THEN WELL WITH COMMISSIONER ADMIRE THAN MICHELE MCDONALD. IS MR WEINBERG HERE, MR RAINES, OR WILL HE BE TESTIFYING? HE IS HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE HIM TESTIFY. IT WAS NOT PLANNING ON CALLING HIM AS A WITNESS. AT THIS TIME BECAUSE. WELL, MR WITH RESPECT TO THAT, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING HIM UP AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT WE DO THAT PERSONALLY FINISH OR I'LL GO WITH YOU, MR PRESENTATION. YOU GUYS ASKED. YOU CHOSE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE WITNESSES AS THE ORDER THEY WENT IN. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHO MY DIRECTING SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS CATEGORIES, UM. GOING TO GO TO MR BAGGA. WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, THOUGH MR BECKETT HAS ALREADY REFERRED TO MR WEINBERG'S DESCRIPTION OF WETLANDS, SO I WILL CATER THOSE QUESTIONS LATER. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR MEYER. MATT, THAT'S IT.PULL YOUR YOUR YOUR SON OF WAR. MR I HAVEN'T EVEN ASKED ANYTHING YET. THAT WAS. LOOK, YOU'RE ASKING, UM. WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE OF THE BIO ACTIVATED BATTLE BOX. YES, SIR.
SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, OR THEY'RE BAFFLED BOXES ON THE OUTFLOWS. CURRENTLY INTO THE ST LUCIE RIVER. NOT AT THIS SITE. AND TO THAT POINT, I ACTUALLY ASKED CEM DISTRICT STAFF ITSELF FLORIDA IF THEY HAVE PERMANENT RECENT PROJECTS WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO POINT TO ANY IN THE AREA. THEY POINTED ME TO ONE IN KISSIMMEE. UM ON THEN I GOT A LIST OF PROJECTS AROUND THE AREA FROM MARTY WANNA LIST TO WHO WAS ACTUALLY THE PROFESSOR WHO KIND OF HELPED COME UP WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY FROM UCF, AND HE KEEPS A KNACK OF LOG OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS AND HE WAS UNABLE TO REALLY SHOW FROM THE INCIDENT IN THE TREASURE COAST WHERE THIS HAS BEEN APPLIED. NO. SOME OF THE FOLKS AT THE MARTIN COUNTY ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AS WELL. AND I THINK THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS. UM. HOW MANY BAFFLE BOXES AIR PROPOSED ON THE ENTIRE SITE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THE ONE BUT THERE'S STILL SOME FINAL SIZING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THE MANUFACTURER. THAT GETS FLUSHED OUT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. TRENCHES THAT CONVERT WATER TO THE DIFFERENT LAKES. THEY PROPOSED TO BE 100% PLANTED WITH NATIVE VEGETATION. YES, OKAY. AND. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A PROPER QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR IS MIMICKING A LAKE FIRST IS A STORM WATER TREATMENT AREA. WHAT A NATURAL LAKE. WOULD REMOVE MORE NITROGEN PHOSPHORUS THAN THAT. TYPICAL. OR THE CURRENT F DOT STORM OUR TREATMENT AREA THAT'S THERE.
NOT NECESSARILY IVAN INSTANCE, ST LUCIE COUNTY WHERE WE CONVERTED EXISTING POND TO TREATMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE THAT I TOUCHED ON EARLIER WITH DIRECT DISCHARGES.
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO TREATMENT MECHANISMS. YOU WANT TO HOLD ON TO THAT WATER AND DETAIN IT A LOT OF TIMES LAKES. THEY'RE ISOLATED. THEY'LL HOLD ON TO SOME WATER. THE INTERCONNECTED WATERWAYS TEND TO PUSH THINGS DOWNSTREAM. PERFECT. CAN YOU DESCRIBE. IF THE PROJECT WAS BUILT THE CURRENT THE CONDITIONS THAT WILL PROBABLY SEE IN THE NEAR FUTURE WHERE WE HAVE. WELL, I WALKED THE PROJECT THIS MORNING AND WETLANDS WERE MOSTLY DRY. YOU COULD WALK. RIGHT OVER AND WE'RE IN THE DRIEST TIME OF THE YEAR. PRETTY SOON COMING UP.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE EVENTS LIKE WE DID LAST SUMMER. WE WERE GOING TO GET A FEW INCHES OF RAIN IN THE MATTER OF OUR SO CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT. THE ENTIRE PROJECT AS IT'S BUILT TO YOUR DESIRES. WITH WHAT ANY WATER OF THAT GO INTO THE ST LUCIE RIVER. AS IT AS IT STANDS TODAY. YES WITH THE CURRENT DRY CONDITIONS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'D HAVE NO AS IT STANDS. YOU KNOW HOW I THINK WE KNOW HOW IT WOULD GO NOW, IF THE PROJECT WAS BUILT OUT. TO YOUR SPECIFICATIONS AND IF WE GOT INTO A DRY PERIOD. YEAH, THAT IMAGINE WE ARE NOW AND YOU KNOW, THREE WEEKS FROM NOW. PLUS OR MINUS. THE RAINY SEASON IS GOING TO COME AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING AFTERNOON SHOWERS AND REALLY WHAT YOU WERE WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT IN THE DRY SEASON WITH LAKE SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT YOU GET THE EMBANKMENTS EXPOSED AND. AND THOSE SAUTED LIKE I LIKE I POINTED OUT HERE, THOSE SODDED BANKS THERE ON THAT SLIDE WHEN THOSE GET EXPOSED, CREATE A SCARF. IT'S A DANGER FOR
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SOMEBODY MOMENT, MO IN THE BANKS. THE PLANET SYSTEMS LIKE A LIVING SHORELINE TEND TO HOLD UP TO THAT THERE. THEY CREATE THEIR OWN KIND OF GRADY IN AND IN GRADE ALONG THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE. SO YOU DON'T GET THAT EXPOSED BANK LOOK. UM DURING THE DRY SEASON, YOU KNOW? YOU MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WHEN THE WATER TURNS BACK ON THEIRS MECHANISMS TO RETURN IT BACK TO ITS CONTROL ELEVATION. IT'S A PART OF FOR THE BENEFIT OF ENGINEERING A SYSTEMS. YOU DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER THAT. THAT'S. THIS IS IN THE QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S SLOPED WITH THAT SLOPE IN THE DEEPER PART IN THE MIDDLE'S CORRECT FOR WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING. YES, OKAY. MM. AZIZ THE ENGINEER IF THE CITY. TO REQUIRE A THROUGH STREET. LEAD FROM KANNER COSTCO BOULEVARD. WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER. BUT, UM IF THE CITY MANDATED. ROSCOE BOULEVARD. BE RUNNING ON THIS PROPERTY. KNOWING THE REQUIREMENTS. OF COSTCO. COULD YOU DESIGN THAT? WITHOUT IMPACTING. WELL ON NUMBER SEVEN. COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT HAVING A GO THROUGH AND RECONFIGURE THE SITE PLAN. THERE WOULD BE MORE SPACE, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE A ROAD. BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY MANDATED THE ROAD. OH, OH, COULD WE HAVE? OH, NO. NO. IF THEY SAID, YEAH, IF IT WAS A MANDATE TO CONSTRUCT THAT ROAD, THAT'S. SO IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. IF WE WANT THE ROAD. IS IT FEASIBLE IF WE WANT THE ROAD AND. HOSKO WAS DESIRED AS WELL. IS IT FEASIBLE AT ALL? DO BOTH AND NOT IMPACT THE WETLANDS. NO. I MEAN I LIKE IS THAT I CAN'T SPEAK ON THE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF IT. YOU KNOW THAT THE FIRST STEP THAT YOU'RE HERE TO TAKE HIS TOE. SHOW AVOIDS A MINIMIZATION WITH ALL THE THINGS PROPOSED.THAT WOULDN'T BE. LIKELY CASE. OKAY, UM THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM COURSE YOUR MIND. AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE EXISTING. CANAL DRAINAGE FROM WILLOUGHBY WEST. OKAY, SO IN THE PROPOSED PLAN, UM ARE YOU GOING TO BE ACCEPTING? FLOW THE EXISTING FLOW FROM UPSTREAM PROPERTIES AND WILLOUGHBY INTO THE EXPANDED LATE. NO, THAT CONTINUE TO BE YES. SO WHAT I DID IS I ACTUALLY INQUIRED.
INTO OF WHAT COLLECTS, THROUGH THERE. A LOT OF THAT AREA FROM WILL BE, UH, UPSTREAM IS TREATED RUNOFF ALREADY THROUGH STORM WATER SYSTEMS, PRIMARILY ASSOCIATE WITH PERMITS. THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF DELINEATE THE AREA THAT DRAINS THROUGH THEIRS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ESTABLISHED SYSTEMS UPSTREAM S O RIGHT NOW, AND THE SECOND HALF OF THAT WOULD BE TAKING IN THAT MUCH UPSTREAM FLOW IN OUR SYSTEM. WHAT WOULD CAUSE SOME. SOME SERIOUS FLOOD IMPACTS ON SITE SO WAY ARE GONNA WE'RE GONNA BUY, SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE A COL. BERT UNDERNEATH YOUR YES, AND TAKE THAT AND ROUTED THROUGH. OKAY. AND OF COURSE, YOU MUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. PUBLIC WORKS I WOULD IMAGINE OR THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FOR MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S YES S O THAT WAS ADDRESSING THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTUAL PERMIT FOR THIS ON, SO WHAT WILL BE UP WILL BE OBLIGATED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T IMPACT UPSTREAM PROPERTIES, BUT WE DO HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT THE ONLY AREA WHERE WE'D HAVE TO GET IN WITH MARTIN COUNTY IS THE OUTFALL THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING. ON WHERE. THERE'S AN EXISTING OUT FALLING TO THE DITCH UP HERE. IT'S JUST AH, RIGHT AWAY PERMIT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THROUGH THEM. AND, UM. AS FOR THE FILTER, BAFFLE BOX. VERY COOL. UM HOW IS THAT? HOW IS THAT, UH, CLEANED OUT OR MANAGED. I MEAN, IS THERE E C THERE'S LIKE ACCESS GRATES ON TOP, TOO, I GUESS CLEAN. AND WHAT WOULD YOU IS IT SOME SORT OF LIKE. AN EXCHANGE RESIN THAT NO, NO IT ZACH FACING. THEY CALL IT E. C T. BUT IT'S REALLY IT'S A MIX OF UNEARTHS CLAY'S OLD TIRES. THE NITROGEN ACTUALLY GETS GAS IFIED, INNIT? BUT TURNS TOE GAS, AND THEN THE PHOSPHORUS BINDS TO THE MEDIA AND THEN USUALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS BECAUSE IT MORE BECAUSE OF THE FOSTERS. YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT, SO THERE'S A MAINTENANCE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. HOW DOES THE NITROGEN OFF GASSING? WHAT FORM? IS IT? A. DON'T THEY? YEAH NO, IT'S NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT ANYTHING. UH GLOBAL WORRYING ISSUES WITH THAT. IT'S YEAH, IT'S THE SAME WAY YOU PLAN TO DRESS FOR IT, OKAY? AND
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YOU SAID SO SOLID WOULD COLLECT IN THE BOTTOM, AND I UNDERSTOOD. I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S SOME SORT OF. SERVICE ACCESS SOME SORT OF VACUUM MECHANISM OR SOMETHING TO CLEAN OUT THOSE RIGHT RIGHT SO THAT THIS THING KIND OF COMES IN PIECES AND THAT E. I'M STILL DIGGING INTO THAT THAT PART OF THE ACCESS THEY'VE RECENTLY CHANGED THERE. IRAQ, BASICALLY SO THAT MEDIA THAT YOU SEE THERE SITS ON A RACK. THE REP TOLD ME THIS WEEK. THEY'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THEIR DESIGN ON THAT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO MAINTAIN. BUT THAT IS THAT IS IT YOU ACCESS IT FROM THESE GRATES UP HERE? THESE ARE TO BE ABLE TO PUMP AIR INTO THE MEDIA. BUT ALSO IT'S SUCCESSFUL FROM THIS FRONT BATTLE SIDE AS WELL AND JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE INCLUDED. AND THE EXISTING YET WELL EXPANDED, MODIFIED AFTER BASIN WHICH WILL BE A BLOOD YOU'RE LATE NOW FOR THIS DOWNSTREAM DISCHARGE. UM. I THINK. OH A ZAFAR IS THE LAKE DEPTH GOES. I KNOW THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A POINT IN, UM. SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE POTENTIAL TREATMENT OCCASION FOR THE NUTRIENT REMOVAL. I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION AROUND THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF THE PHIL AND I SAW IN ONE OF YOUR LIKE CROSS SECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE A. 12 TO 25 FT. OKAY, 12 MEN TO 25. FT MAX. IS THERE ANY IN YOUR EXPERT OPINION? IS THERE ANY REASON WHY. YOU WOULDN'T DIG THEM ALL TO 25 FT SO THAT YOU COULD MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PHIL THAT YOU COULD USE ON PROPERTY. GEOMETRY OKAY? YEAH YES. AND IF YOU AND IF YOU WE HIT HIT A LAYER OF UNSUITABLE Z OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU'D WANT TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT THE 12 FT MINIMUM IS. IS MY NUTRIENT CALCULATIONS A SIMILAR ANOXIC DEPTH, WHICH IS NATURAL AREA IN THE LAKE, WHERE YOU GET NUTRIENT REMOVAL. YOU DON'T TEND TO GET IT TOO MUCH LOWER THAN THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE WANT AT LEAST GET THE 12 SO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLEAN HEALTHY LAKES, BUT 25 TO GET ADDITIONAL MATERIALS. SO FOR ME WHAT COMMISSION? MCDONALD OKAY, LET'S SEE, UH.MR MEYER ACTUALLY TOOK CARE OF MY QUESTION FOR ME ON THE MEDIA FOR THE COMMISSIONER MATHESON IS TAKING CARE OF ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. SO CLEARLY, WE'RE IN THE SAME GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE.
AND THAT IS A FASCINATING TECHNOLOGY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING. MORE INFORMATION AND MAYBE SEEING THOSE PROJECTS BEING MORE, UM. THE NEXT THING IS THE CONCEPTUAL PERMIT. AH IT'S AH, UH, YOU HAVE A PERMIT, BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED TO THE SO IF YOU ACTUALLY JUST BEING MODIFYING THE EXISTING FOR ME SO WITH RESPECT TO THE PERMIT, BECAUSE THAT AND I UNDERSTAND HER QUESTION. BUT YOU KNOW? PERMIT AND THOSE THOSE OUTSIDE AGENCY PERMITS ARE NOT REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THIS IS THIS IS THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AS MR BAGGINS STATED. WHEN WE GET TO FILE WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT THOSE MODIFICATIONS. AND WHAT? YOU WERE PROOF. HOPEFULLY, WE HOPE TONIGHT. AM AT SECOND READING. WE CAN'T IF WE CAN'T GET THE PERMITS. IS THAT CORRECT? MR. THEN WE CAN'T CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT. OKAY, SO IT'S. AND ACTUALLY TO GET THE PERMITS. BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR DOWN. THE ROAD IS REALLY GETTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN, OR IF WE WERE HERE TONIGHT, AND WE MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN, THEN IT'S YOU HAVE TO MODIFY IT. YES, YES. SO IT Z. THAT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, SO MY NEXT ONE IS A VERY EXCITING AREA. THE UTILITIES. UM MAYBE I'LL MAKE MR PETERS HAPPY. WHO'S RETIRED, BUT I'M SURE HE'S LISTENING SOMEWHERE. ANYWAYS WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU? IS IT GONNA BE HOOKING UP TO OUR CUE WATER SYSTEM? NO, SIR. NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO FOR IRRIGATION? NO PUNS. YEAH WE WOULD. WE WOULD PROBABLY PULLING FROM OUR FURTHER STOP STREAM LAKE. JUST LIKE A MAN AND GET FURTHER AWAY FROM. RIVER THAT WHICH IS TO THE LAST WE'D WANT TO GO FURTHER EAST.
YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY IMPLEMENT THE SAME PLAN THAT WE DID. CLEVELAND WE DID SOME SAMPLING PROTOCOLS ON THE WATER THERE TO MAKE SURE WE HAD GOOD IRRIGATION QUALITY POTENTIAL THERE. BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE OUR PREFERENCE. YEAH THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND ON DOING ONE OF THE OTHER FACTORS AND THAT DECISION IS. YOU KNOW, WE PUT A LOT OF FOCUS ON THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND THERE IS TWO TRAINS THAT DON'T QUITE SEE EACH OTHER COMING WITH GOOD, INTENSE WITH IRRIGATION QUALITY WATER IS THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WILL. SAY THEY HAS VERY HIGH NUTRIENT NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS ON THAT ENDS UP IN THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND CASCADES DOWN STREAM, SO JUST PART OF THAT CONSIDERATIONS, OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR GROUP. WHY SHOULD BRUNER NO, UM, GOOD JOB. WONDER GOOD
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QUESTIONS. GET SOME ANSWERS. IF THERE'S A NEXT THEM, THAT'S I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MISS SUSANA ROURKE, OR TRAFFICKING. HOLD ON. LET ME JUST CHECK OF MISS MISS. NO QUESTIONS OF YOU.THANK YOU, MR ROURKE, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. TELL ME CRAB. WORK. OH, YOU'RE STILL NOT THERE. I FEEL LIKE A COMMERCIAL LIKE THAT. THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MR ROURKE IS GETTING HER SHOW READY FOR THE ROAD. TRANSPORTATION.
ELSE. SORT WHERE YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SUSAN O'ROURKE. AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES I HAVE. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE FOR THE RECORD YOUR EDUCATION WORK HISTORY. I HAVE A BACHELOR'S AND ENGINEERING FROM VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY AND I REGISTERED CIVIL ENGINEER AND WAS FORMERLY A REGISTERED TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN CIVIL ENGINEERING, CALIFORNIA. AND I HAVE 36 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. YOU'RE HERE.
IT'S JUST 1 25. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE RECORD TO REFER. EXCUSE ME. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY THE PAPER THAT I'M HANDING YOU MY RESUME? AND IS THAT AN ACCURATE CURRENT REPRESENTATION OF YOUR EDUCATION WORK? YES. YES, IT IS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THIS. MR WORKING IN POLICE STATE YOUR ROLE IN THIS PROJECT. I'M THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. AND. OKAY? I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA HAVE ANYTHING AS EXCITING AS DAVID. BUT LET'S SEE HERE. I WANTED TO GO BACK THROUGH BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE REVIEWING AGENCIES BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THIS, ITS ITS INVOLVEMENT WITH PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERS OF ALL THROUGHOUT THE AREA. WE'VE GOT THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND THE FDA, OT. THE FDA T WAS ONE OF OUR EARLIEST APPROVALS. WE GOT A SERIOUS OF DRIVEWAY. PRE APP APPROVALS, WHICH ARE PRELIMINARY APPROVALS. AND WE'VE HAD TO MODIFY THOSE, AND IN FACT, I PUT THE PEA THERE BECAUSE WE ARE PENDING BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE TO ADDRESS. ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT SITE PLANS, SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THAT, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THAT WE'VE HAD THE CITY AND COUNTY REVIEW THE CITY'S THIRD PARTY REVIEWER. THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBERS OF STUDIES, SO WE DO A LAND USE. PLAN AMENDMENT STUDY, WHICH LOOKS AT THE LONG RANGE. IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT. WE LOOKED AT THE 2045 PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG RANGE PLANNING FROM THE MPO CONDUCTS. AND WE DRILL DOWN TONTO. KIND OF SKIP OUT OF ALREADY. HERE WE DO. THE CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND THE SHORT TERM IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS IS THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS. WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE FDA, OT PRIOR TO THEM, APPROVING A SIGNAL AT OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH WHICH THEY HAVE AND THEY HAVE AGREED A CELL P A. WAS ASKING US TO THAT WE CAN PUT THE SIGNAL IN. AS SOON AS THE COSTCO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, SO WE WOULD BE CONSISTENT. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE DELAYED, LIKE MANY OTHER PROJECTS. OKAY, SOMEONE'S GOT TO TELL ME HOW TO CLICK. WANT ON THE KEYBOARD. OKAY? IT'S COME. GET OUT OF THAT UPS. SAY THAT ALL THINGS STILL UP THERE. SARAH. SAY WHEN YOU HAVE 36 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE ALSO BLIND. SO. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY, SO. WHAT I WANTED TO GO
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OVER WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAD COME UP PREVIOUSLY WHERE? THE CIRCULATION ON SITE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUCK LOADING AND THE THROAT LINKS AND QUEUING HAVE TO DO WITH HOW FAR WE ARE FROM FROM THE ROADWAY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER ON SITE CIRCULATION, AND WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE MAJOR STREETS. SO I'M NOT GONNA I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH THESE. THESE THESE AIR PART OF THE SUBMITTAL PACKAGE, AND THEY'VE BEEN PREPARED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TEAM. BUT THEY'RE ALL THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. IT JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE CIRCULATION BECAUSE. THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE TRUCKS GO AND MAKING SURE THAT THE RADIO I ARE CORRECT AND THAT THE WHOLE SITE CAN BE REACHED BY. THE VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE SO THAT THE TRASH TRUCK THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND THE FIRE TRUCK WHICH DAVE WENT OVER WITH YOU. WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATE THAT IT CAN CIRCULATE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SITE. THE DELIVERIES TO THE COSTCO. AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO COME BACK OUT THE WAY THEY CAME BACK IN AND THEN DELIVERIES TO THE FUEL. WHICH WOULD GO OUT AND I WANTED TO SHOW THIS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY HERE ON SOUTH END. THE MOUSE. OKAY, SO. IN THIS AREA HERE. LET'S SEE IF I COULD DO THAT. SO THIS THIS DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN IN QUESTION. WE. SEE THIS AS PRIMARILY EGRESS OF TRUCKS, SO WE HAD REQUESTED. BECAUSE OF SOME LIMITATIONS IN THIS AREA WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT POLES THAT WE NOT PUT A RIGHT TURN LANE IN. WE HEARD WHAT YOU GUYS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING.WE HAVE GONE BACK. AND COME UP WITH A MODIFIED RIGHT TURN LANE AND WERE SEEKING APPROVAL THROUGH THE STATE NOW TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN TO ACCOMMODATE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE LARGER VEHICLES USING THIS RADIUS, SO WE'RE USING THIS DRIVEWAY. SO IF WE DO THAT, IN ORDER TO FIT IT IN I MEAN, 70 FT, RIGHT ARE 70 FT RADIUS WOULD BE MODIFIED TO A 60 FT RADIUS JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ROOM THERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, BUT WE WAY HERE. AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT SO NOW, IF I CAN GET THIS STRAIGHT. OKAY UM, WE JUST HAD A COUPLE VIDEOS. SOMEONE HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO A SIMULATION, BUT WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THESE THINGS JUST TO SHOW YOU. UM YOU KNOW HOW THINGS WORK ON THE SITE. THIS IS A BRAIDING TIN SIGHT. AND LET'S SEE IF WE IT DOES WHAT I WANTED TO DO, JUST SHOWING YOU GENERALLY, THIS WOULD HAPPEN OFF PEAK HOURS AND S SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE TRUCKS INTERFERING WITH THE PEDESTRIANS OR. HIM EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW RESIDENTIAL, SO THAT'S. JUST A BRIEF ON AND WE WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT DESIRE TO SEE SOME REAL WORLD IMAGERY. THIS IS JUST A MORE TECHNICAL THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THE EPA AND. WAS REMISS AND DID NOT HAVE MY SCALE WHICH YOU KNOW TO MEASURE THE SITE PLANS WERE TALKING, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BROUGHT THIS UP THESE THROAT LINKS ALL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE D O T. BECAUSE WE ARE ON A STATE HIGHWAY, AND BASICALLY WE'RE JUST SHOWING THESE LITTLE VEHICLES. THIS IS THE VEHICLE CUTE NOW. I DIDN'T SHOW A SIMULATION, BUT WE USE A SOFTWARE CALLED THE HIGHWAY CAPACITY SOFTWARE. ALL OF THE DRIVEWAYS ARE ANALYZED FOR THE FUTURE CONDITIONS OF THE ROADWAY. WE CALCULATE THE Q. WE ENSURE THAT WE DON'T EXCEED THE THROAT LENGTH. SO THAT WE DON'T. EITHER IMPEDE ON SITE CIRCULATION OR IMPEDE THE BOT IS ROADWAY. BOND I'M GONNA GO BACK. I THINK I'VE GOT THIS DRIVEWAY COVERED IN ANOTHER SLIDE AND INTO THE NORTH. WE HAVE 400 FT. AND WE'VE GOT AMPLE SPACE THERE, SO NO ISSUES THERE. WE DID WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, REQUIRING A LEFT TURN LANE IN AND A RIGHT TURN LANE AND AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO THIS IS OUR MAIN FULL ACCESS. DRIVEWAY. UM. YOU KNOW, I'VE I FEEL FORTUNATE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS ASIDE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK FOR SIGNALS AND CAN'T GET THEM AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A SAFE OPERATION THAT OPENING. WE'RE WORKING. YOU HEARD US TALK ABOUT MR DIESEL. I BELIEVE IT IS AND WE WERE WORKING WITH HIM RIGHT NOW ON THIS DRIVEWAY TO GET A PROPER ALIGNMENT AS BEST WE CAN TO MAKE THIS A FULLY FUNCTIONING. INTERSECTION INTO THE FUTURE, AND WE WILL HAVE ALL PEDESTRIAN. IT'S HARD TO SEE ON HERE, BUT WE WILL HAVE FULL PEDESTRIAN FEATURES HERE. TO ACCOMMODATE THE PEDESTRIANS, INCLUDING THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND THEN THIS IS OUR DIRECTIONAL ACCESS, WHICH WILL HAVE A LEFT TURN IN A RIGHT TURN IN. YOU CANNOT TURN LEFT OUT OF THIS DRIVEWAY YOU CAN ON LEE, TURN RIGHT. AND WE JUST HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE VIDEO. THIS IS DOWN ON SOUTHERN BOULEVARD.
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NOW SOUTHERN BOULEVARD IS MUCH BUSIER THAN THAN CANTOR HIGHWAY TO A FACTOR OF TWO OR THREE.HOWEVER I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE OF COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TURN. NOW THIS PERSON YOU KNOW, IS WAITING A FEW SECONDS, BUT, UM. THE INTERSECTIONS WILL BE ABLE TO FUNCTION PROPERLY WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL DELAY.
THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE THROAT LENGTH ON OUR SITE, SO THAT. THE VEHICLES CAN WAIT SAFELY AND DON'T START FEELING THE NEED TO RUSH OUT INTO A GAP. SO YOU'LL SEE THESE VEHICLES WILL CLEAR AND WAY DON'T GET ANY MORE THAN THE FOUR VEHICLES IN THE QUEUE. SO. THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE. I JUST SHOWED THAT BECAUSE IT IT WAS COMPARABLE TO THE RESULTS OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE WERE GETTING. SEE, UM WAY HAVE ALSO THE SOUTH ENTRY WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND WE ARE SHOWING HERE THE RIGHT TURN LANE WITH THE THREE THROUGH LANES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND WE'RE TAKING THE ADDITIONAL WITH OUT OF THE LANE A LITTLE BIT, SO WE DON'T RESTRICT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND WELL, BUT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. PAUL AND THEN JUST THIS SHOWS A LITTLE BIT AGAIN ON SOUTHERN BOULEVARD WHERE THIS IS THE FUEL ENTRY. THIS IS NOT A MAJOR STREET. THIS IS A MINOR STREET BE SIMILAR TO COMING OFF OF COSTCO BOULEVARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE. EXTENSIVELY MORE STORAGE LENGTHEN THIS PARTICULAR DRIVEWAY, BUT WE JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT THEY'RE ALL OF THESE. ALL OF THESE. COSTCO'S HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE. TO ASSIST SO IF THEY WANT TO RE DIRECT SOMEBODY TO A DIFFERENT PUMP, AND THERE'S PAST WEIGHS BETWEEN THE PUMPS SO THAT YOU DON'T GET THE BACKUP. SO I WANTED TO SHOW THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND AGAIN. YOU KNOW THE STORE'S NOT OPEN IN THE MORNING. THE GAS PUMPS ARE BUT BECAUSE THE STORE IS NOT OPEN THE OVERALL IMPACT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.
SO LET ME JUST LET THAT PLAY OUT. SINCE SOMEBODY TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT. ONE OF MY FABULOUS EMPLOYEES TOOK THESE VIDEOS. AND I THINK THAT'S. BECOME OKAY. SO I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE. THIS IS JUST SHOW. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, WE I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY ON THIS, BUT JUST TO SHOW THE THIS IS THE CAPACITY OF 3000 AND 20 IS THE DIRECTIONAL CAPACITY. OF CANDOR HIGHWAY AND 11 40. IS, ARE THE TOTAL TRAFFIC AT THE TIME OF BUILD OUT? THAT NUMBER GOES UP FOR THE YOU KNOW, 2040 2045 PERIOD, WHICH WAS ALSO ANALYZED CLOSER TO 2000. SO WE'VE ANALYZED. YOU KNOW ALL THE VARIOUS SCENARIOS I WANTED TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ISSUE. WE DID MEET WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU HERE ARE. SOME OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM, AND APOLOGIZE. IT LOOKS A LITTLE BUSY. THESE THESE. SIGNS WILL ALSO BE APPLIED TO WILLOUGHBY AND ONTO WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD. IT'S NOT STANDARD PRACTICE TO HAVE THESE WARNING SIGNS. IN ADVANCE OF A CROSSWALK THAT WOULD BE AT THE ENTRANCES. I'VE TALKED TO LISA WEXLER AT THE COUNTY AND SHE SAID IF THE D O T. APPROVED THEM TO BE ON CANDOR THAT SHE WOULD DISCUSS IT WITH ME RELATIVE TO THE COUNTY, MAINTAINING THEM. BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THEM ON. THE COSTCO BOULEVARD. ARE TO BE NAMED AND THEN ON WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD, SO THE THING IS, AND WE HAD A MEETING BECAUSE THE CALCULATION FOR WALKING. THE THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT DOESN'T QUITE MEET THE TWO MILE BUSSING RADIUS. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE COULD HAVE CHILDREN HERE. AND WALKING TO SCHOOL, BUT THERE WILL BE A BUS STOP. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES NOT WANT TO COME DOWN COSTCO BOULEVARD. THEY WANT TO THEY SAID THEY WOULD PULL OFF ABOUT 150 FT. SOUTH IN THIS AREA HERE THAT I'M SHOWING AND. AS FAR AS THE MARTY TRANSIT. HAVE LEFT MESSAGES WITH THEM RELATIVE TO THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IF THEY WANTED US TO WORK WITH THEM ON A STATION ON THE SITE, BUT TO MINE WE DON'T HAVE THAT LOCATED YET. SO SCHOOL DISTRICT DID NOT WANT TO BE APART. BUT ANYWAY, SO THE LAST THING, BOB, I KNOW JUST, UH THIS IS A ROUGH GRAPHIC, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU. BECAUSE I'VE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THE ADDITION OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT
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OUT TO YOU THAT THE TRAFFIC THIS 7400 ADDITIONAL TRIPS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. GETS BROKEN OUT AND SO MANY DIRECTIONS IN SO MANY WAYS. SO WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY OH, YOU'RE GONNA ADD 7000 OR 10,000 VARIOUS NUMBERS. IT GETS DISTRIBUTED OUT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE WORKED SO HARD ON IS TO MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS. THROUGH THESE ARE THESE ARE BIG IMPROVEMENTS, AND THIS STREET WILL ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH MARTIN MEMORIAL OR CLEVELAND CLINIC. AND SO ANYWAY, I JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. YES THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, MR WARD, SO THAT FUTURE CONNECTION UM. YOU DID YOU DO A DISTRIBUTION. WHAT? YES, AND WHEN WE DID THIS. MAYOR CLARKE, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY ASKED US TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THE DISTRIBUTION AN ASSIGNMENT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BEEN REVIEWED, AND IN FACT IT WAS. THAT'S KIND OF WE STARTED WHEN WE GOT TO THE D O T. THEY WANTED TO PUT THE ROAD AND WE KIND OF SAID. WE WEREN'T SURE ABOUT IT, AND THEY CAME AND TALKED TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE COUNTY STAFF IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY SAID YEAH, WE KIND OF LIKED THAT IDEA, SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INPUT AND YES, FULL DISTRIBUTION. YEAH. SO. MR ROARK. I HAVE JUST A FEW AND THEN I'LL GO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER. THAT'S FINE. SO. SO YOU PREPARED THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS FOR THE CANDOR. CPD LAST REVISED ON APRIL 22ND 2021? YES. AND YOU ALSO PREPARED THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE CPU, THE LAST REVISED ON APRIL 21ST 2021 FOR THE PROJECT. YES AND HE PREPARED THE LAND USE AMENDMENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ALSO LAST REVISED ON APRIL 21ST 2021. YES AND I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON A BIT AGAIN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE THREE TRAFFIC REPORTS? YES THAT THEY ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT NEED. THE LANDES PLAN AMENDMENT IS THE LONG RANGE ANALYSIS THAT GOES WITH THE CHANGE IN LAND USE AND AN ADDRESS IS JUST THE NET CHANGE THAT HAS TO GO UP TO THE STATE IT GETS REVIEWED BY.STAKEHOLDERS THE CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS IS USED TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT FOR CONCURRENCY. IT ALSO PROVIDES THE DRIVEWAY VOLUMES AND ANALYSIS THAT WE USED TO SECURE DUTY PERMITS. AND THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE FDA OT THAT ITS SIGNAL. PRIOR TO PUTTING IN A SIGNAL YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEED AND IT MEETS ALL OF THE THRESHOLDS. AND DID YOU WERE ALSO WORK ON THE DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATION DESIGNS FOR THIS PROJECT? YES I DID, AND WHERE THE TRAFFIC REPORTS IN THE DRIVEWAY COULD CONFIGURATION DESIGNS YOU PREPARED REVIEWED BY THE MARTIN COUNTY ENGINEER? YES AND DID THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REVIEWED YOUR TRAFFIC REPORTS AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT DESIGN? YES AND DID THEY APPROVED THE FINDINGS IN YOUR TRAFFIC REPORTS AND MORE UGLY DESIGNS? THEY ARE IN PROCESS. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LETTER? MR JERRY CAN.
MCLUHAN RIGHT. I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I'M SAYING YEAH. IT MADE 12 2021 THAT HE SENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION IS PART OF THE INTERVENERS APPLICATION. YES. IN THAT LETTER. MAKES THE STATEMENT IT COULD BE FULL. IT COULD BE FULLY. I THINK IT MEANS EXPECTED THAT THE RIGHT LANE OF CANDOR HIGHWAY WILL BE PERPETUALLY BLOCKED. ALWAYS. SPAWNED OF THAT STATEMENT. I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. AND THAT CANTOR HIGHWAY JUST TWO YEARS AGO WAS WIDENED TO MAKE IT A FULLY FUNCTIONING SIX LANE ARTERIAL ROAD TO THE CITY INTO THE COUNTY. THE COSTCO SITE WOULD END ITS FULL USE AND INTERRUPT TRAFFIC. I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. THE INTERNAL ROADWAY IN THE SITE PLAN IS A NIGHTMARE. I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT IT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE SHOWED THE. TEMPLATES THE AUTO PATH UM. THIS ROCK IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DOES THE PROJECT PRESENTED. TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT NEED TO TRAFFIC IN CURRENT CURRENCY REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART IN MARTIN COUNTY, FLORIDA, YES. THANK YOU HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR LORD. ANY OTHER WITNESSES, MR. NO. IN THE VIENNA. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US, ROURKE? MISTER. WHERE WERE YOU THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS PROPOSED FOR PALM CITY WHEN COSTCO WAS PROPOSED TO PALM CITY NOT ORIGINALLY. NOT ORIGINALLY. BUT WERE YOU A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THE PROJECT AND PUMP CITY? I WAS A CONSULTANT. WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS REJECTED IN PALM CITY WAS ONE OF THE REASONS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STUDY COULD NOT BE VALIDATED. CLARIFICATION THIS PROJECT WAS NOT REJECTED.
MARTIN COUNTY. THIS PROJECT NEVER WENT BEFORE THE BOARD. COSTCO WITHDREW THAT
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APPLICATION OF THEIR OWN VOLITION. SO IT WAS NEVER RETRACTED SO INCORRECT. WELL TRUCK'S SPEED LEAVING ON WILLOUGHBY. NO, EXCEPT FOR THE TRASH, TRASH HER FIRE. THEY NEED TO OK, SO THAT ONE DAY HAD LITTLE THE GREEN THAT WAS JUST TRASH TRASH AND FIRE ACT, OKAY? UM. OR THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED DID THAT INCLUDE MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC WHEN IT'S DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR AND NOT DURING COVAD? YES THERE'S THE ACCOUNTS WE USED WERE FROM THE COUNTY AND THEY. HAVE DETERMINED TO USE CONTINUE TO USE 2019 BECAUSE WHEN THEY CONDUCTED THE 2020 COUNTS, THEY FELT THEY WERE NOT TYPICAL. DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FUEL STATION ACCESS DURING A HURRICANE EMERGENCY? NO. DID YOU DO A LINE OF STATE STUDY FOR THE RIGHT TURN OFF OF THE MAIN INTERSECTION WITH THE SIGN AND THE DIESEL RIGHT LANE TURNING IN IN THE MOST SOUTHERN PART? NO, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET.IS THERE CURRENTLY A BIKE LANE IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY? I BELIEVE THERE'S A BIKE LING WILL THERE CONTINUE TO BE A BIKE LANE AND FOR THIS PROPERTY? YES. HOW WOULD THE BIKE LANE BE PROTECTED FROM THE THREE ENTRANCES INTO THE PROPERTY? IT WILL FOLLOW THE STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR A BUFFERED BY PLANE FROM THE D O T.EN.
YEAH I'M COMMISSIONER. MY DOG. UM. IS THE WORK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE TRAFFIC TRIPS THAT. OR AT THE AT THE PROPOSED SITE. WITH THAT. YES. APPARENTLY HE'S SOME OF THOSE TRIPS ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT USED TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO THAT COULD THAT BE REMOVING TRIPS FROM ANOTHER LOCATION? YES SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE, SOMEONE MIGHT GO TO BJ'S OR SAM'S. RIGHT SO WE DO NOT THAT THERE'S TWO TYPES OF. TRIPS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S DIVERTED LINK TRIP AND A NON DIVERTED LINK TRIP. A NON DIVERTED LINK TRIP IS CALLED PASS BY SO THAT THAT WE DO ACCOUNT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ON CANDOR HIGHWAY. YOU ARE GOING TO STOP HERE ON THEIR WAY HOME WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE PATH THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE NOT DISCOUNTED PEOPLE WHO. YOU KNOW, ARE ALREADY DRIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT WEREN'T COMING TO THIS LOCATION. THEY WERE ALREADY GOING SOMEWHERE. THEY JUST WEREN'T COMING HERE. SO. THAT THAT ISN'T TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY GOING TO COSTCO, WHICH. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD SOME NUMBERS. 12% WHATEVER SO. YES, THERE COULD BE LESS TRAFFIC THAN WE'VE SAID, BUT WE'VE ACCOMMODATED. A SIMPLE CROSS TRAFFIC SOME MYSELF. ABSOLUTELY KIND OF GETTING AT IS BEING LESS PUT POTENTIALLY LESS TRIPS OF CARS OVER THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE, WHICH IS EVEN HEAVENLY, OR, I THINK MORE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED THAN CANTOR HIGHWAY. IT'S POSSIBLE. YES OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY? MISTER MISTER MISTER MARCH. IN ADDITION, THAT SO YOU'RE SAYING AS A TRIP, A TRACTOR, THE COSTCO. WOULD BE PULLING YOUR AVERAGING ABOUT 12% OF. MEMBERSHIP IN THE FROM FROM OUR AREA. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT COSTCO HAD SAID LAST TIME THAT THE MEMBERSHIP I'M JUST SAYING, WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT WE DIDN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM OFF OF US ONE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM OFF OF YOU KNOW, AND NOW SEND THEM HERE. WE'RE JUST WE'RE TREATING THEM ALL NEW IN THIS AREA, EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE ALREADY DRIVING. PAST CANTOR HIGHWAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM. NORTH LIKE NOT NORTH, I GUESS EAST ON WILLOUGHBY AND THEN EARLIER SITE PLAN. WHICH HAD KIND OF LIKE AN OVERLAY OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. IT LOOKS LIKE SO AND I MAY HAVE. WAS IN THE BACK FOR A SECOND. IS THERE A PROPOSED CURB? CUT? I KNOW IN THE MEDIAN ON WILLOUGHBY. IS THERE A WAY TO ACCESS. OKAY, SO YES. THIS WILL BE A FULL ACCESS ON WILL BE OKAY. IT'LL BE A LEFT TURN LANE IN. I'VE GOT THAT ON HERE. THAT'S THIS SEAM WHERE TO GO. THERE WE GO. THIS ONE IS SO THERE ISN'T THERE'S AN EXISTING. IS THERE AN EXISTING SO NOW? WE HAD TO MOVE THIS. WE HAVE TO REDESIGN. WE HAD TO REDESIGN THIS BECAUSE THE COUNTY WANTED US TO ALIGN WITH A FUTURE OF FUTURE. PARK SELFISH PARK DRIVEWAY. OKAY, SO OKAY, THAT'S IT. THIS SO RORKE WHAT. WHAT'S THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE ON CAMERA RIGHT NOW BETWEEN MODERATE AND INDIANS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I SHOULD KNOW. SO CLASSY. I
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BELIEVE. YEAH, IT'S A LEVEL OF SERVICE. SEE THE COUNTY TYPICALLY USES A THRESHOLD AND IT'S ABOVE AND BELOW YOU. YOU'RE EITHER ABOVE IT OR BELOW IT, BUT YES, WE'RE CURRENTLY ASKED LEVEL OF SERVICE. SEE? WHICH IS GOOD. I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEERS BELIEVE, YOU KNOW. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT. THAT MEANS SURE IF I WAS DRIVING IN MY. GOING TO ENCOUNTER OTHER CARS OR WE STRIVING FOR A CLASS A OR. NO, IN FACT, A LOT OF THESE, D O. T DOES WHAT'S CALLED A QUALITY LEVEL OF SERVICE AND A LOT OF THE ROAD TYPES THEY NO LONGER EVEN. DRIVER AND BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEVER, EVER BUILD A ROAD TO WASTE THAT MUCH CAPACITY, SO THEY STARTED C, D AND E AND THOSE AIR TYPICALLY. URBAN AREAS ARE GOING TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE S O C IS. PRETTY FREE FLOWING AND YOU'LL KNOW ON CANTOR. IT IS PRETTY FREE FLOWING AND YOU WILL, BUT AT THE INTERSECTIONS, YOU'RE GONNA HIT DELAY, SO THE. THEN YOU MOVE INTO THE NEXT LEVEL SERVICES D D IS PRETTY STANDARD. YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, WAIT FOR A SIGNAL. YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE IT EVERY TIME OUR SIGNALS HERE ARE. BUILT IN WITH A LOT OF DELAYS, SO THEY'RE LIKE BUILT AT LEVEL OF SERVICE, DEANNA, IT'S JUST THE WAY YOU KNOW. 182ND CYCLE 160 SECONDS, YOU'RE GONNA BE DELAYED AND THEN LEVEL SERVICE E. YOU'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE A LITTLE MORE DELAY, BUT THINGS WILL STILL BE MOVING, BUT TYPICALLY, THAT'S ON LEE. IN THE PEAK HOURS THE REST OF THE DAY. THINGS ARE EVEN BETTER THAN THAT. RIGHT? SORRY. I HAVE TO ASK THIS BUT IS A LEVEL OF SERVICE A COMPARED TO LIKE THE LUXURY LANES. THEY HAD THAT EPISODE OF SEINFELD WITH HELL SWERVE BACK BEFORE. WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, IF REPORT CARD, RIGHT, IT'S JUST THE ZOO. SO NOW THAT THAT'S CURRENT TIMING, BUT. HOW DID YOU ESTIMATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN 2024 ON THE BUILD OUT, SO WE HAVE TO APPLY GROWTH RATES THAT ACCOUNT FOR GROWTH FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, AND IT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM A HALF PERCENT TO 66.1. PER YEAR. SO WE'VE ADDED. WANT TO SAY IT WAS ABOUT 1000 VEHICLE TRIPS ON THE LINKS IN THIS AREA, ASSOCIATING WITH THE GROWTH RATES. AND THEN THE 2040 AND 2045 ANALYSIS IS BASED ON COMPUTER MODELING, WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT GROWTH ON ANY PIECE OF LAND. THAT'S. YOU KNOW THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT AND THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF GROWTH ASSOCIATE WITH THAT, AND THAT IS STILL YOU KNOW, WITHIN ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE TWO THIRDS OF CAPACITY SO AND WE USE CAPACITY. HIS LEVEL OF SERVICE. DE SO CAPACITY COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT. BUT LEVEL OF SERVICE D IS THE OPERATING LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO THE CITY.WILL ALLOW D. SOMETIMES HE AND YOUR C R A C. SO, UM IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT. WHAT WE USED TO CALL CAPACITY IS WHEN YOU COULDN'T GET ANY MORE THROUGH AND THEN 90% OF THAT WAS AND 80 70 60 BUT NOW. YOU CAN HAVE VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C AND D THE WAY THE STATE DOES IT, SO IT'S A LITTLE IT'LL DIFFERENT, BUT. BUT BUT THE COUNTY STANDARD IS D IS USED AS CAPACITY. YEAH. SO D IS THE COUNTY STANDARD. CORRECT WHEN I WHEN WE SAY CAPACITY IT'S. IT'S THE SERVICE LEVEL ASSOCIATE ID WITH STILL BEING ABLE TO MOVE AROUND FAIRLY FREELY. AND WE ARE WELL BELOW THAT NUMBER. THE PROJECTIONS ARE, WE WOULD BE BELOW THAT NUMBER. CORRECT. 24 YES. AND 2 2040 SL 2045. SO UM. THAT THAT SHADED BUS STOP. YEAH. STACY GATHERING STILL STILL HERE? E THINKS SHE LEFT. IF THE COUNTY WAS WILLING. SO ADAM MARTY LANE TO THE COSTCO.
THERE IS A LOCATION THAT A SHADED BUST UP COULD BE ADDICT. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK SO, JOE. UH YOU KNOW, A LITTLE A LITTLE, UM. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO SAY I MEAN, WE HAD A DRESS THAT WE JUST HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A COMMITMENT THAT THEY WANTED TO COME THERE. SO ISN'T
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THERE A TRIM MEAN MARTY THERE ON WILLOUGHBY? RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. CLOSE BY. YEAH, THEY DO.GO ALL AROUND HERE, SO WE JUST I CALLED AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO COME ON TO THE SITE, AND DID THEY WANT TO MEET AND WE JUST HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HI THAT DOWN OR MAYBE THEY COULD SWITCH THEM. SO IT WAS OUTSIDE REQUIRE A COMPLETE REWORKING OF THEIR ROUTES. SO AT LEAST THERE'S AN EXISTING STUFF. YOUR BODY. OKAY? THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, MR. WELL, THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THING ELSE FOR MR ROURKE. I'LL CALL MY NEXT WITNESS. MR JOE MARINO. IT'S MARINA. PLEASE. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, SIR. JOE MARINO AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR WORK HISTORY, EDUCATION WORKERS. MY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER BUILDER. UM. DOING THIS FOR 37 GOING ON 38 YEARS. GREW UP IN THE BUSINESS.
MY GRANDFATHER AND FATHER WERE ALL TRADESMEN. SO I GREW UP IN LEARN THE BUSINESS FROM THE BOTTOM UP AS A LABORER, A CARPENTER, A MASON AND IRON WORKER AND AN OPERATING ENGINEER. AND MY PARTNER, JACK MORRIS HAS A VERY SIMILAR BACKGROUND. WE'VE BEEN BUILDING SHOPPING CENTERS IN APARTMENTS. INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL FOR ALL THAT TIME, THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY. WE. THERE STAIRS. TWO BOARD MEMBERS MYSELF, MY PARTNER. WE BUILD AND MAINTAIN AND OPERATE, MANAGE AND OWN. MOST OF ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES WERE REALLY NOT SELLERS. AND THE PAPER. I HANDED YOU CAN YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY THAT, SIR? YES. IS THAT WHAT IS THAT, SIR? RESUME.
YES, YOUR RESUME. YES, AND IT'S A CURRENT AND ACCURATE REPRESENTATION BY ASSUME CITATION. I WOULD LIKE TO. BUT IS THERE FOR THE CLERK? CEREAL. THAT IS APPLICANTS. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I LIVE IN NEW JERSEY AND ALSO HAVE A HOME IN FLORIDA. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, SIR, WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. SO. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO REALLY THANK THE CITY. AND ITS STAFF ON THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC. THIS HAS BEEN. AMAZING JOURNEY FOR IT'S GONE ON ALMOST THREE YEARS. LIKE I SAID, BEFORE WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN OUR DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. SURE I'M SORRY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE DEVELOPMENTS DESIGNED. PROPERLY SO THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL NOT ONLY WHEN WE FINISH HIM BUT INTO THE FUTURE AND THE PROFESSIONALISM, THE COURTESY. THE INTUITIVENESS OF THE COMMISSION. AND THE SAME WITH THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING FOLKS THAT MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT HAVE BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL AND HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATED AN INCREDIBLE IN HIGH LEVEL OF INTEGRITY, SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT. LINDA KAYE HAS BEEN UM, HI. WELL I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME SAYING, BUT I REALLY LIKE IT. AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THE EVEN THOUGH HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY WEARING THE SAME COLOR UNIFORMS TONIGHT, BUT, UM. AND IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO HOW PEOPLE SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER. NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, AND ARE WE WANT TO ENDEAVOR TO BE ALWAYS A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THAT'S JUST WHO WE ARE. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PRIVATE COMPANY AND WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE AND OWNING THESE PROJECTS FOR THE LONG HAUL. WE'VE NEVER GIVEN A PROJECT BACK TO A BANK. WE'VE NEVER DEFAULTED ON A LOAN. UM. AND WE CAME UP FROM FROM FROM FROM THE BOTTOM AND. WAY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN OWNERSHIP AND BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE MAKING THEM VERY LARGE INVESTMENT IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A NEIGHBOR. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF OUR GAME WHEN WE SERVED THE PUBLIC ACROSS THE BOARD FROM RETAIL, TONTO QUALITIES LIVING. AND CONSTANTLY RAISING THE BAR. WHETHER IT'S OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. ARE ARCHITECTS AND. WAY JUST WANNA HANDLE OURSELVES IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL. WAY THAT EVERYBODY COULD BE PROUD OF SOMETHING. THANK YOU. UM. DON'T
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HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR MR MARINO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO OKAY. INTERVENER. MR RENO. HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU VERY WELL. UM. WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING THE RENTAL PRICES FOR YOUR APARTMENTS TO BE. WELL, YOU KNOW BEING THAT THEY WON'T BE COMPLETED FOR COUPLE OF YEARS.I WOULD SAY THE TARGET RENTS, PROBABLY FOR ONE BEDROOM OR SIMILAR TO THE NEW PROJECT THAT WAS BUILT ACROSS THE STREET. AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GETTING ABOUT 1500 FOR ONE BEDROOM ACROSS WHAT STREET? RIGHT ACROSS FROM TOWN HALL. OH HERE. YEAH YEAH. UM BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE A VERY HIGHLY IN MANY TIES PROJECT CLUBHOUSE POOLS, OUTDOOR AMENITIES, ETCETERA. PROBABLY 14 TO 1500 PLUS FOR ONE BEDROOM AND. 1800 OVER 2000 FOR TWO BEDROOMS. WELL ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES BE AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. MM PARTIALLY S O. THE LAKES THAT ARE ON THE POND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC ROADS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THE CLUBHOUSE IS FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND THE POOL IS FOR THE RESIDENTS. ARE YOU LOOKING AT, UM SHORT TERM LEASES IN THESE APARTMENTS. WE PREFER NOT SHORT TERM LEASES. THE LONGER TERM LEASES THE BETTER. THANK YOU. THANKS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE INTERVIEW THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR MARINA? MR RAINES? NONE FOR MAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAD FIRE.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I TAKE IT IS MR MARINO THE YOUR FINAL WITNESS THAT YOU'RE CALLING? OH LOOK, I'VE GOT I'VE ALSO GOT 17 MORE. UH ACTUALLY, 18 THAT'S DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER I WAS JUST GONNA START GOING THROUGH MY WHOLE LIST. NOW YOU HEAR THIS, AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY BE SO, UM, WAY HAD TALKED, UH, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO JUMPED IN MR MARINO. WHEN? WHEN, UH. CARLY VICE MAYOR ASKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AND YES OH, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE CAN JUMP IN. UM, I KNOW THAT. NO. I HAD ASKED FOR THAT. IF WE'RE GONNA APPROVE A GAS STATION, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CHUCKLES IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT HAVING THEM NEAR A GAS STATION. IT MADE SENSE TO ME, BUT ALSO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE. MAYBE THEY MAKE SENSE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, MAYBE THE NEXT SINCE CLOSER TO THE POND.
AMENITY RATHER THAN RIGHT NEAR THE GAS STATION. UM, SO I. JUST WANNA KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND WE CAN HAVE TO SET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WHEN WE GO ALL IN, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE. YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL EVEY SPACES IF THAT'S POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH END AS YOU SAY. UM, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE A GOOD PORTION OF THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE LOOKING TO CHARGE THEIR CARS AS THEIR PARKING THEM. YOU KNOW WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THIS. OBVIOUSLY AS CONSUMERS AND EYES. PROPERTY OWNERS, SO WE WANT TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE PUBLIC. LIKE OUR IPHONES EVERY YEAR, SOMETHING COMES OUT BETTER. SO WE CAN TOW LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY. AS WE GET CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE LATEST AND GREATEST THAT TECHNOLOGY INTO THE PROJECT. WE WILL BE INCLUDING THEM FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. AND THROUGHOUT THE SITE IS DEMAND. REQUIRES IT. WE WANT TO PROVIDE AND MEET THE DEMAND, OKAY? AND HAVE YOU WORKED WITH COSTCO ON ANY OTHER PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTRY? YES, I HAVE. OKAY? MANY RIGHT? THE ASKED MISS MARINA, IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED LISTEN, THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL MM. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION NUMBER OF TIMES AND JUST. FOR SORT OF BLUE GOING DOWN MEMORY LANE A LITTLE BIT. WE HAD ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT WITH ABOUT 450 UNITS. AND MORE RETAIL. AND AS THE PLAN EVOLVED AND COMMENTS AND. CRITICISMS CAME IN THE PLAN WAS REVISED THE PUBLIC ROAD THROUGH THE SITE WAS INTRODUCED. AND WE LOST DENSITY AND WE LOST RETAIL. UM MM. WOULD BE. WOULD BE WILLING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT. TO THE COMMISSIONER'S. INTO THE PUBLIC EYE WOULD BE I WOULD BE WILLING TO REDUCE THEM BY 5. AND AS WELL AS A HOST OF OTHER ITEMS THAT OUR PROJECT ENHANCEMENTS. ONE OF THOSE ON HAND SPENT TRYING TO POSSIBLY. OF MORE UNITS WITH WHICH COULD
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BE RENTED FOR LESSER AMOUNT THAN THIS. AVERAGE HIGH MARKET PRICE FOR ONE BEDROOM. SO TYPICALLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE UNIT IS ON THE SITE. THE PRICES WILL RANGE SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME LOWER PRICE UNITS ON SOME HIGHER PRICE UNITS. DEPENDING ON THEIR LOCATION.OKAY AND, UM, MR RAINES HAD ENOUGH, MISTER, UM. ARENAS RIGHT PERSON TO ASK THIS QUESTION. WELL, MAYBE I DID ASK IT ALREADY. MM HMM. ARRANGE IN THE HOUSE AND UM. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK AND RE INJURY IT AND. A SUPPLANTED OR SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN BUILDING THESE THINGS FOR A LONG TIME. UM. ARE YOU FULLY CONFIDENT THAT THIS MATCHES THE. THE SCHEME OF THINGS THAT WE ENVISION IN MARTIN COUNTY AND THE IDEA THAT, UM. PEOPLE WHO TECHNICALLY WOULD WORK AT COSTCO AS EMPLOYEES WITH A PART TIME OR FULL TIME. WOULD EVEN BE, UM, ABLE TO AFFORD THIS NEXT DOOR HOUSING IN THE SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT SPECIAL DISTRICT. LAND USE, WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY WAS BEING. WOULD BE ADOPTED IN ORDER TO HELP CREATE. ON DEN HANCE. WHAT WE HAVE IN MARTIN COUNTY. UM. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU IF YOU THINK THAT THAT'S THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE DO AND WE THINK IT'S GONNA. I'VE SERVED THE PUBLIC GREATLY. YOU MENTIONED COSTCO EMPLOYEES. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT OUT OF 200 TO 250 EMPLOYEES. WE THINK AT LEAST. 50 TO 60. WOULD QUALIFY WITH A SINGLE INCOME RESIDENTS TO RENT AT OUR PROPERTY. NOT COUNTING TO INCOME. SO, YEAH, I MEAN CLEVELAND CLINIC ABSOLUTELY. AND MANY OF THE OTHER. MANY OF THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT AIR HERE AND BUSINESSES. WE BELIEVE SO. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT BUILDING A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE. WANT TO FIX UP THEIR PROJECT THAT THEY HAVEN'T. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES COMPETITION'S GOOD. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, OKAY? SO. FOR SEVEN UNITS, YOU'RE WILLING TOL KNOCKOFF. UM. JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK. SO THAT'S 20 UNITS BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MAP I'M LOOKING AT, UM IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN. WOULD THAT BE? YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT BE REDUCING KIND OF LIKE THE. GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD OF A BUILDING SO THAT WE COULD HAVE HOPEFULLY MORE TREES AND MORE GREEN SPACE AND NOT MAURA MONETIZED SPACE, POTENTIALLY OR DO YOU NEED TO THEN JACK UP THE AMENITIES TOW COVER YOUR LOSSES ON 20 UNITS. YOU KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON. WHERE WHERE THE REDUCTION MAKES THE MOST SENSE FROM THE UNITS TO THE TO THE PARKING THAT'S THAT ARE RELATED TO THE UNITS. AND. HOPEFULLY FIND A BALANCE OF MEETING EACH OTHER'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MORE THAN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE I COULD SEE REDUCING THE UNITS. WHETHER IT'S. CUTTING DOWN ON ONE OF THOSE STORIES OR JUST ELIMINATING A ROW. YEAH, I THINK IT'S AH, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO REALLY LOOK AT. OKAY? AND I'D BE REALLY UNTIDY. VERY OVER. YEAH I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA REDUCE THE UNIT'S I'D MUCH RATHER SEE THE BUILDING. LIKE. SHRINK A LITTLE BIT NOT NECESSARILY HEIGHT WISE, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT INTO THAT, BUT I'D RATHER SAVE TREES AND GREEN SPACE ON THE GROUND, THEN KNOCK A FULL STORY DOWN SO GOOD, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. GET IN THERE. SO COME I SHARED MY DONALD AND VICE MAYOR MIKE MASTERSON. SO YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME HERE WHEN THAT WITH YOU.
TWICE. I THINK, YES. TELL ME ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH MISSION RIGHT NOW. THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU US TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH BECAUSE ONE OF THINGS THEY FOUND UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS PROJECT WITH HOW YOU PERSONALLY WERE HERE DOING A LOT OF THE OUTREACH AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. SO CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE OUTREACH HE DID WITH WITH THE, FOR EXAMPLE.
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MISS RICHARDS, THE NEIGHBORS OF, DIFFERENT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AFTER DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS. THAT SURPRISED ME IS HOW MANY TIMES THIS PROJECT IS HOW MUCH IT'S EVOLVED FROM TWO YEARS FROM 23 YEARS AGO, SO CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE THAT PROCESS, SO IT'S JUST OUR BUSINESS AND PHILOSOPHY IN LIFE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE BUILDING AND YOU'RE HOLDING IN YOUR OWNING FOR THE LONG HAUL TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE AROUND YOU WAY CERTAINLY ARE NOT PERFECT. WE'RE FAR FROM IT. AND WE MISS THINGS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH WITH OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT TYPE OF OUT OUTREACH. I TAKE VERY PERSONALLY AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE. TAKE MY TIME TO MEET WITH FOLKS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE AND TRY TO ADDRESS THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I YOU HAVE TO EARN PEOPLE'S TRUST AND RESPECT AND THE ONLY WAY YOU DO THAT IS TO START A RELATIONSHIP. AND ONCE YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT TO SOMEBODY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO LIVE UP TO YOUR WORD, SO ONLY TIME WILL TELL. THE FIRST STEP IS YOUR HISTORY AND YOU MAKING THE COMMITMENT TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.LISTEN TO THEM AND TRY TO ADDRESS THEM. SO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT LINDA KAYE AND I COULD GO OUT AND HAVE A DRINK, REGARDLESS OF HOW THIS GOES. I MEAN, WHAT THE POINT IS, YOU WERE PEOPLE. I MEAN, YEAH. COSTCO'S A BIG CORPORATION. UM AND WE'RE FAIRLY LARGE COMPANY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE TO GO TO BED AT NIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU DID THE RIGHT THING AND. WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN AND LOOK, IT'S SIMPLE TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO BE TREATED. JUDGE PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE JUDGED. AND TRY TO LIVE YOUR LIFE. THAT WAY. YOU RUN YOUR BUSINESS THAT WAY, AND I THINK YOU'LL BE FINE. INCENTIVE. MR MARINO? YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE STAND. UM. I LIKE WHERE WE'VE GONE WITH. THE REDUCTION OF UNITS I WAS HOPING OR, YOU KNOW, THINKING. 20% WOULD BE A LOT MORE BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR INTO A NEGOTIATION AND NOT ASK HIM QUESTIONS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONDITIONAL IZED UPON APPROVAL, THEY'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THE INTERVENER TO GIVE HER PRESENTATION. WAS JUST THIS IS A QUESTION. I WAS HOPING.
FOR 20% IS THAT. OF THE REDUCTION OF THE UNITS IS THAT. THAT IN THE SAME BALL FIELD OF THE 5% POSSIBILITY, OR. I NEVER LIKE TO SAY NO, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR. THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE A NO, BECAUSE WE WOULD WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH UNITS. TO PROVIDE THE AMENITIES IN THE SERVICE. AND. WHEN YOU TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE, YOU NEED THE TYPE OF DENSITY TO JUSTIFY IT. OTHERWISE YOU START REMOVING DENSITIES. I'M THE START REMOVING AMENITIES. SO WE WANT TO. WE WANT TO BE PROBABLY THE MOST HIGHLY AMENDED TIES PROJECT. IN THE CITY. CERTAINLY COMPETE WITH THE MOST AND STAY THERE. OKAY? UM WELL. GOING TO MR BAGUETTE. AND HIS WATER QUALITY DESIRES. AND I LIKE HOW YOUR ENGINEERS EXCITED ABOUT I'VE MET HIM. MULTIPLE TIMES. AND AS YOU KNOW WHAT. WATER QUALITY HAS BEEN ONE OF MY BIGGEST PUSHES. RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE A FULL PLAN. BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO ENABLE HIM? TO SATISFY HIS DESIRES. AND THE CITY. YOU KNOW, HE SEEMS TO BE EXCITED. FOR WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS. MORE THAN MOST OTHER ENGINEERS I'VE MET ON DIE LIKE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THIS FULL CONCEPTUAL PLAN. YOU KNOW THAT? NO, HE SAYS HE WANTS TO MIMIC MANATEE ISLAND AND ALL BUT THAT THAT'S NOT OUT THERE YET. SO IS HE GOING TO BE ABLE TO YOU DO THAT? HE? HE HAS. PEOPLE LIKE WHEN THEY HAVE YOUR CHECKBOOK. RIGHT SO HE'S HE'S GOT THE
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GREEN LIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXCEED EVERYBODY'S EXPECTATIONS, AND THAT WAS PART OF NO BUILDING THE TRUST BETWEEN MM. THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK. AND. COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN HERE AND THERE HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR MANY YEARS. SO EXCELLENT. A LOT OF TIMES PROJECTS LIKE THIS. NO STUDY THE OUTPUT AND. NO CAN REPORT BACK ON THOSE NUMBERS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D BE WILLING TO ENABLE HIM TO DO SO THAT THE CITY COULD GET AN ANNUAL REPORT? ON HOW THE SYSTEMS HE'S GOING TO DESIGN ARE FUNCTIONING. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. THANK YOU. MR VICE MAYOR. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH. SO JUST A QUESTION OF NOT NEGOTIATING. UM. IT'S THE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, UM, PLAN TO BE WOOD FRAME OR BLOCK BLOCK A PLANK. HAS A LONG TERM OWNER. WE WOULDN'T BUILD WOOD. WOOD FRAME WE WANT TO BUILD.STATE OF YORK. SOLID BLOCK AND PLAYING STRUCTURES. NOW, IF THIS DOES GET APPROVAL. YOU'VE SEEN THE GENERAL TREND THAT THE COMMISSIONER MYERS BROUGHT UP IF YOU ARE REDUCING 5% OF THE UNITS OR MORE. UM. HOWEVER IT'S WORKED OUT. I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS MORE GREEN SPACE.
WHETHER YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF TRADE OFF OF REDUCING THE APPROPRIATE PARKING SPACES OR.
BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS. DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES. THINK. THE INTERVIEW. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL CALL YOU, JOE TO, UM. WHY DID COSTCO REJECT FORCING LUCY'S OFFER FOR FREE LAND TO DEVELOP OUT IN THEIR COUNTY? YEAH, IT'S NOT FOR ME TO ANSWER. DO YOU REMEMBER MEETING WITH MYSELF AND MY BROTHER AND SISTER IN LAW IN JANUARY OF 2000 WON? YES. DO YOU REMEMBER ME ASKING YOU THE QUESTION OF WHY YOU'RE PUTTING SO MANY APARTMENTS INTO THIS PLACE? YES. REMEMBER WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS? MY KIDDING ANSWER. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS. MY ANSWER IS IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BUILD THESE SITES. AND YOU NEED TO GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DENSITY TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN MEDICAL. NOW I'M GIVING YOU THE LONG ANSWER. THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER THAT YOU PROVIDED. THERE WAS THE LANDS A LOT OF MONEY AND THE DEVELOPMENTS A LOT OF MONEY. I BELIEVE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE ANSWER WAS YOU CONGLOMERATE ON THE CURRENT LAND OWNERS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH MONEY. I SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU SOLD HIM THE LAND. O THAT IS ONE OF THE JEWELRY.
CAN'T WE KID AROUND A LITTLE BIT? THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. HE SOLD THEM THE LAND DIDN'T SELL IN THE LAND. THAT IS THAT IS A FAMILY SOLD IN THE LAND. NO, NO, NO, NO. ALSO. OKAY. MY PRESENTATION, TALKING ABOUT ONE LAST QUESTION. WERE YOU AWARE THAT COSTCO SENT A SPAM EMAIL TO THEIR EMAIL SUBSCRIBERS? REQUESTING THEM TO SEND EMAILS TO OUR SMALL LITTLE CITIES. UM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SPAM EMAILS, SO THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT BY A SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT COSTCO. REQUESTING PEOPLE TO SEND EMAILS TO OUR COMMISSION SUPPORTING THE COSTCO WITHOUT ANY TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THE COSTCO. JUST THE COSTUME. WHAT. I THINK YOU'RE DONE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. UNLESS THEY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MR MARINO? YEAH. I HAVE NONE. MISS MISS MISS BARONA HAS A QUESTION FOR THIS MYSTERY, YOU KNOW? NO. NO.
THESE GUYS HERE. MY COMMISSIONERS. THEY'RE VERY SHARP. THEY'VE ASKED ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. AND, UH, AND I WHAT I WANTED WAS THE ROAD PEOPLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND WHEN I SAW THAT, AND I KNEW WITH THE WORK THIS OUT AND MORE COULD BE DONE, AND WE MIGHT COULD HAVE A COSTCO. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GOING FROM ONE ROAD TO THE OTHER GOING THROUGH THERE. SO ANYWAY, THE OTHER QUESTION IS ALL THESE PEOPLE WE KNOW WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. WE GREW UP TOGETHER. WHETHER YOU GOTTA MOVE TO STUART. I HOPE IT'S SAFE FOR ME
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TO MOVE TO STORK. THINK IT'S SAFE. BUT IF YOU LIKE, MAYBE IT'S AMAZING PLACE WITH AMAZING PEOPLE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE VERY. GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND DEBATES AND COME OUT WITH, YOU KNOW. GOOD OUTCOME. YOU KNOW WHAT? MR MARINO, YOU'RE RIGHT. WHEN PEOPLE WERE UNOPENED BOOK HERE, WALK UP AND DOWN, GO IN AND OUT OF EACH OTHER'S OFFICES AND STUFF, AND YOU WON'T GET THIS IN WEST PALM BEACH. YOU'LL GET THIS IN PORT ST LUCIE. YOU PROBABLY NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH ANY OF THIS. BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING BEFORE AND THESE ENGINEERS AND I WANTED TO THANK MY STAFF ARE STAFF. THE CITY OF STUART STAFF IS JUST. ACTUALLY YOU COULD WRITE AND OTHER OFFICES TO IN THIRD AND ALMOST 38 YEARS. THE STAFF THE PROFESSIONALS, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN. THE MOST INTUITIVE AND YOU ASK WHY THE PROJECT CHANGED SO MUCH BECAUSE. PEOPLE WOULD ASK QUESTIONS AND WE WOULD GO BACK AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO THAT BETTER? THEY HAVE A POINT. WE COULD DO THIS BETTER IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS, AND IT CHANGED AND CHANGED THE CHANGE. SO IT WAS REALLY THE COLLABORATION OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT REPRESENT THE ENVIRONMENT AND OTHER THINGS DO IF THERE'S GONNA BE A DEVELOPMENT. TO DO IT IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WAY WE HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, MR. COMMISSIONER CAMPY. AND I FORGET WHAT WAS THE PROJECT THAT JUST CAME UP? THAT'S THE BIG PROJECT THAT IS IT. THE PUMP CITY ONE AND HE WAS SAYING TO THE DEVELOPERS MAYBE YOU WERE THERE CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT. WE IN MARTIN COUNTY WANT TO BE PROUD OF A PROJECT AND THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'VE EVER DONE AND WITH THE MOST EMPLOYEES AND THAT. WELL THANK YOU, MISS MISS MORELLO, COULD YOU PLEASE ASK MR REALLY YOUR QUESTION NOW? I'M SORRY, OKAY? THEY COLLECT US MR. MARINA QUESTION. BECAUSE, MISTER, UM.WHAT'S THE MATTER? SON CAN SEE WELL, BUT I DON'T HEAR. WELL DID YOU SAY FIVE OR 10% BY DEFICIENT I REALLY LIKE THIS, AND SHE'S LIKE A JETTA IS THAT CONFIRMED THE DEAL. LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE ADDRESSED THE BEATING. OKAY? THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL IT THIS TIME. MARK. MAN WITH COSTCO, PLEASE. MR MAN, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR? YES, MARK, MAN, AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN? I HAVE.
AND CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR WORK? HISTORY AND YOUR EDUCATION, SIR? SURE.
MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, SIR, SO THAT THE CLERK CAN GET EVERYTHING. YES I ACTUALLY STARTED IN RETAIL WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD. I HAVE WORKED FOR FOUR SEPARATE COMPANIES IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. I'M NOW 58 YEARS OLD. BUT THE APPROXIMATE THE LAST 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN UPPER MANAGEMENT. EITHER AS AN OPERATIONS MANAGER OR THE GENERAL MANAGER. AND FOR THE PAST 20. ALMOST 21 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN A COSTCO AS A GENERAL MANAGER. Q AND THE PAPER THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU? CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE THAT PIECE OF PAPER POLICE, SIR. YES. WHAT IS IT, CAN YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT IS? FOR THE RECORD MY RESUME, OKAY. AND IS IT ACCURATE AND CURRENT REPRESENTATION? IT IS. THAT IS EXHIBIT. I THINK IT'S SEVEN.
HAD, SIR, WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. NOT A MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER'S GONNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. OKAY? OUR SCHOOLS COULD BE A GREAT ADDITION. CAN'T HEAR. CAN WE BE QUITE OUTSIDE THOSE DOORS TONIGHT? YOU HAVE TO CAUSE THE DOOR WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO. WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE BE QUIET. IF THE OFFICERS WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ON THE OUTSIDE. ALL OF THE SAME PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE ON THE INSIDE. THANK YOU, MR RAINES, FOR, UM, HOLDING. YES, SIR. PLEASE CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT. OSCAR WHOLESALE WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO MARTIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF STEWART. EVERYBODY IN SERVICES AND WHOLESALE PRICING THE LOCAL BUSINESSES. RESIDENTS WHO BECOME COSTCO MEMBERS. COSTCO WHOLESALE SUPPORTS THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. WE TAKE VERY MUCH PRIDE IN THAT. UM. WHEREVER WE OPERATE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, FOR THAT MATTER. WE SUPPORT THE LOCAL SCHOOL OR LOCAL SCHOOLS, BUT THEY'RE READING PROGRAMS. AND WITH THE DONATION OF FULLY SPOT
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BY FULLY STOCKED BACKPACKS, AND THAT'S ONCE A YEAR. SO LOOK, THE SCHOOLS. TOSCO SUPPORTS THE FEEDING AMERICAN ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS ACROSS THE NIGHT ENTIRE UNITED STATES. EMBODYING WEEKLY FOOD DONATIONS. IN ADDITION, COSTCO WHOLESALE WILL BRIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES BY HIRING 150 TO 175 EMPLOYEES. IN THE GREATER MARTIN COUNTY AREA. THROUGH JOB FAIRS. THIS WILL REPRESENT ABOUT 75% OF THE TOTAL WORKFORCE AT THIS STUART LOCATION. HOSKO OFFERS FANTASTIC WAGES. OR MEDICAL DENTAL VACATION AT THE SAY FOR ONE KATE AND 41 KAY BENNETT THIS FOR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE AFTER JUST SIX MONTHS OF UNEMPLOYMENT. PART TIME EMPLOYEES ALSO ARE GUARANTEED A OF MINIMUM OF 24 HOURS. WEEK, WHICH IS AMAZING. DEPENDING ON THE EXPERIENCE. THESE POSITIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL A SERVICE ASSISTANT. AWAY. JUST START AT $16 PER HOUR UP TO $24.50 PER HOUR. IN THE SECOND POSITION, WE WOULD BE CALLED SERVICE CLERKS OR MEAT CUTTERS. THESE POSITIONS START AT 16 50 PER HOUR. UP TO 27 20 PER HOUR. SO AS AN EXAMPLE. FULL TIME CASHIER. AFTER JUST SIX YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT. WILL MAKE $59,500 ANNUALLY. FOR OUR COSTCO LONG TERM EMPLOYEES ONCE THEY'RE TOPPED OUT IN THEIR PAY SCALE. THEY WILL RECEIVE BONUSES FROM $13,000 PER YEAR.SO COSTCO HAS A VERY STRONG EMPLOYMENT LOYALTY. THE TURNOVER IS THE BEST IN INDUSTRY. 13% THE FIRST YEAR. OF EMPLOYMENT AND JUST 7. THEY'RE AFTER. COSTCO WILL BE A FRIEND OF WARREN COUNTY AND CURRENTLY OVER 9500 COSTCO MEMBERS ALREADY CALLED MOUNT MARTIN COUNTY HOME TODAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR INTERVENER. WHAT DOES COSTCO'S PAY RATE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL OF A LAND USE CHANGE AND AN APPROVAL OF A C P U. D. NOTHING THAT I KNEW OF HIM. ARMS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES, UNEMPLOYMENT. SO, UM SURE YOU HEARD MY QUESTION THERE. UM. YOU KNOW HOW MANY SHAREHOLDERS OF COSTCO LIVING STUART DO NOT.
THANK YOU. MR RAINES. YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR MAINE? HOSPITAL PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY. YES, SIR. SERIOUSLY. NASDAQ. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WAS. MAYBE THAT'S NOT HIS QUESTION COULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER BEFORE WITH ONE OF THESE GUYS WAS GONNA ASK IF THOSE EMPLOYEES WHETHER THEY'RE FULL OR PART TIME THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE CLUB FACILITIES IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. THAT'D BE A SPECIAL BONUS FOR THEM OR SOMETHING. NO. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS. FOR EMPLOYEES, OKAY? AND THOSE COSTCO HAVE ANY PARTICULAR ON HIRING POLICIES WITH REGARD TO MINORITIES. NO, MA'AM. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. INTERVENER. PERHAPS YOU'RE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK. WHY DID COSTCO GIVE UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FREE LAND IN PORT ST LUCIE OR ST LUCIE COUNTY? I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THEY WERE EVER OFFERED FREE LAND AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COSTCO. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS. RUMORS ABOUT THAT. BUT I I'VE BEEN IN ALL THE MEETINGS AND. WAS NEVER PRESENT IN ANY MEETINGS THAT THEY WERE OFFERED FREE LAND FOR WHATEVER THAT.
COUNTRY WITH YOUR WITNESS, MR. JUST INFORMATION. OKAY. I LIKE IT THIS TIME TO CALL. I THINK YOU'RE DONE MORE. THANK YOU. MR TOM REED'S. GOOD EVENING, MR REACH. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN,
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SIR? I HAVE, CAN YOU AGAINST STATE YOUR POSITION WITH THE CITY OF STUART? TOM RATES, SENIOR PLANNER. I THINK ANY BRIEFLY TO SCOTT DESCRIBED WAS SENIOR PLANET DOES A CITY OF STUART. YES. BASICALLY MY DUTIES ARE. TOO RECEIVE PROJECTS REVIEW PROJECTS AGAINST THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND CREATE AGENDA ITEMS. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY? SIR? 15 YEARS. CAN YOU ESTIMATE APPROXIMATELY JUST AGHAST ABOUT HOW MANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS YOU'VE REVIEWED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY DURING THAT TIME? I'D SAY AT LEAST 100 PROBABLY CLOSER TO TWO. OKAY, SO I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODES FOR THE CITY OF STUART. I AM AND YOU REVIEWED THE APPLICATIONS AND MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT BY THE APPLICANT I HAVE AND WITH RESPECT TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS IN THE TRAFFIC REPORTS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT, DID YOU REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS? I. PASSED ON THOSE REVIEWS TO OUR CONSULTANTS, OKAY, AND WHO DID THOSE REVIEWS THEM WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC, SO TRAFFIC WAS SUSAN OR WORK? NO TO THIS. NO, I'M SORRY FOR THE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. RIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. WE PASSED ON THAT TO KIM LEE HORN. AND ALSO THE ENGINEERING. THAT'S TRUE, OKAY? AND, UH, DID KIM LEE HORN? APPROVED THE ENGINEERING PLANTS AND TRAFFIC REPORTS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. THEY REVIEWED THE, UM. THE MIDDLE'S THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH AT LEAST TWICE. AND YES, THEY DID. FINALLY READ PROVED THIS MIDDLE OKAY? IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, SIR.UH. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION MATERIALS BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION THIS EVENING MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES. YES, IN MY OPINION THEY DID, AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT IN LAND USE DOESN'T NATION INAPPROPRIATE? LANDES DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING TONIGHT. IT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE OKAY. AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THE CPU D AND APPROPRIATE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY. YES, IT IS. DID YOU PREPARE THE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTED APPEARS IN THE AGENDA THROUGH THIS MATTER TONIGHT, I DID. AND IN THAT AGENDA ITEM DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THE COMMISSION? YES, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS PART OF MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. IT'S EITHER TOO APPROVE. APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR NOT NOT APPROVED. GOING TO THE IN THE ITEM. I SEE RECOMMENDED ACTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 24662 OH ONE FIRST READING THAT WAS STAFFS WRECK RECOMMENDATION. EMOTION AZAZ.
YES. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR RICHARD ALONE. IS THAT YOU'RE OK. NO, MISTER. MR REID'S BY THE INTERVENER, PLEASE. MISTREATS. IS IT? THE DEVELOPMENT STAFFS? UM. FACE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PROJECTS. IS IT IN YOUR IS IT IN YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION THAT YOU WERE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PROJECTS? TYPICALLY, WE. MAKE A SUGGESTION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. HAS TO EMOTION. AND AS MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT, REPRESENTED IN MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, IT WAS THREE OPTIONS APPROVED, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR NOT APPROVED.
AND, UM DID YOU DID DID I HEAR YOU SAY, UM, THAT THE LAND USE THAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE. WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THE LAND USES MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE SAFE? NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT.
AND DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE APARTMENTS IN THE WAREHOUSE STORE. BIT INTO WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT IS. DOES. IT'S A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT HAS THE. RETAIL IT HAS THE WHOLESALE HAS RESIDENTIAL. IT HAS. URBAN DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE ALL. REQUIRE ALL CALLED OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. EVERYTHING. REDIRECT
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A FOR SHE ASKING THE QUESTIONS FIRST. UH IS IT IS IT THE WAY IT IS THE CITY STAFF POSITION THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE APPLICANT. IN THE APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND ABOUT MAKO. WE COMPLY. AS TO WHETHER YOU COMPLY WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. INTERVENER. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ARE THERE, NOT POLICIES THAT SAY AT B IS A B DISCRETION OR AT THE DETERMINATION OF THE COMMISSION. FOR EXAMPLE, DOES THIS FIT INTO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION? IF THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS THEN THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. SO THERE ARE AREAS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU ARE UNABLE TO SAY THAT THEY MEET IF IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSIONER'S. DETERMINATION. AIKEN. TAKE MY TIME AND PULL IT OUT AND ASK YOU THIS GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC.WE GO. I HAD MY SLIDE SHOW UP, I WOULD HAVE IT. I JUST HAVE TO. WAS. I'LL GET TO IT IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES STATE THAT IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION NOT UP TO THE CITY STAFF FOR A COUPLE POLICIES. WEAKENS. I THINK YOUR POSITION IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IS THAT CORRECT? QUESTION BY THE WAY, IF HE GETS COULD JUST FINISH ASKING QUESTIONS. I DON'T NEED TO DEBATE WITH HIM AT ALL. JUST SO, YES. SO THE QUESTION AGAIN IS IT IS UP TO THE O CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION. BUT YOU ARE TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU THINK. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IT'S APPROPRIATE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. IT'S A QUESTION.
FOR AS FAR AS MUCH AS THE COM PLAIN THAT I KNOW. AND IF THE INTERVENER HAS PLACES WHERE IT ZIFFREN THAN THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ANY OTHER WE'RE FINE. MR MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MR. REITS, UM. I HAD TROUBLE FINDING ANY EXAMPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. AND USED IN THE CITY OF STUART. DO WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE? YES WE DO AND HAPPEN.
LEE OKAY AND HEAVENLY. AND UM, WHEN WERE THOSE ONE WERE THOSE LAND USES APPLIED? DO YOU KNOW.
SAY WAS ABOUT EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, OKAY? SO TOO. IN HEAVENLY, THOSE AIR THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE THIS LAND USE. ON LEE, WHERE I'M AWARE OF. AND THOSE OBVIOUSLY TO QUALIFY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT.
THOSE INCLUDE A MIX OF RETAIL RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL. YES, SOME INDUSTRIAL STARTS. THANK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF HISTORY? IT'S NOT OF MR REEKS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THREE MORE QUESTIONS A MYSTERY. IT'S INTERVENER. THANK YOU, MR FREEMAN, SIR. MR FREEMAN.
YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. HAVE YOU NOT, SIR. YES I HAVE. AND YOU STATE YOUR POSITION FOR THE WITH THE CITY. STUART PLEASE. ON THE CITY OF STUDENT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, CAN YOU DESCRIBE IN YOUR CAPACITIES? THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WHAT YOU DO. I MANAGE THE APARTMENT, WHICH INCLUDES REVIEW OF PLAN APPLICATIONS, FUTURE LAND USE. CODE ENFORCEMENT AND BUILDING AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH THE CITY? COMING UP TO THREE YEARS. CAN YOU ESTIMATE APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS YOU'VE REVIEWED ON BEHALF THE CITY DURING THAT TIME? I'VE PROBABLY MONITORED GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA SYSTEM. MAYBE 80 OR 90.
AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY FAMILIAR, SIR. I ASSUME WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND DEVELOPMENT COAST FOR THE CITY OF STUART. YES AND YOU REVIEWED THE AGENDA ITEM THAT MR REET PREPARED. IS THAT REQUEST THE ATTENDANT REQUEST ITEM? YES. AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL
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OPINION TO THE MATERIALS BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION THIS EVENING MEET THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY COMPANIES HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CODE. YES, AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. LAND USE DOESN'T NATION APPROPRIATE? YES. NAME. YOUR PROFESSIONAL PAIN IS TO SEE YOU. D YES, YOU DO THE APPROPRIATE THANK YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR REMEMBER? INTERVENER. UH WAY WERE JUST SPEAKING WITH MR REITS, HE MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE THREE OPTIONS FOR THE.MISSION TO TAKE TONIGHT? YES. WHEN DID WHICH THE CITY CHANGED THAT. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO MEETINGS BEFORE, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE. SO WHEN WAS THAT CHANGED, HUH? IT'S IN THE CODE. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. FOREVER. UM, WE. WE LOOKED AT THAT WE'VE WE'VE BEEN STARTING TO IMPLEMENT THAT. UM SO I THINK. IT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING THINGS RIGHT. SO IN THE LAST CITY COMMISSION, MEANING THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS CENTRAL PARKWAY LOFTS. IT WAS NOT PRESENTED THAT WAY. BUT TONIGHT IT IS THAT CORRECT. IT WAS PRESENTED THE SAME WAY IN THE AGENDA ITEM. WE RECOMMEND A MOTION THAT COMMISSION COULD MAKE. IN THE POWER POINT TONIGHT. WE REFER TO THE CODE ON THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THE COUNT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AND I'LL CALL MY LIFE MY HEART WANTED. I HAVE ONE OR TWO WELL, I DON'T HAVE TO GO FIRST THIS TIME. OH NO.
OH, NO. IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW. I'M OKAY. MR FREEMAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS WHAT THE INTERVIEW WAS ASKING YOU, BUT, UM. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WHY YOU FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE. I THINK YOU RESPONDED TO MR MISTER. UM REIGNS. IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT? THIS PARTICULAR LAND THIS PARTICULAR? PROJECT ON THIS LAND AND THE LOCATION AND SO ON. AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT DENSITY. HEY. SO THE APPROACH? YES BACK TO YOUR INITIAL PRESENTATION. SO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE. SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT TO THIS SITE IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT CONTAINS MULTIPLE USERS. UM, IT DEALS WITH INHERENT STORM WATER ISSUES IN THIS AREA IN A WAY THAT. MIGHT WANT IT BY VACATES THE PROPERTY INTO A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT CONNECTS THE RESIDENTIAL USES WITH RETAIL AND RESTAURANT. IT PROVIDES POTENTIAL JOBS IN THE AREA. NOT ONLY FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. BUT FOR THE WIDER LOCATION. I THINK THAT IT ENABLES. DESIGN TO BEAM OR INTEGRATED. I THINK PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SAY. MAYBE NOT THE WHOLE IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE IN A BIRD SPECIAL DISTRICT, BUT IT GETS A LOT OF WAY THERE. I THINK IT MOVES ON FROM THE INITIAL. APPLICATION AND I THINK. THE INPUT FROM CONSULTANTS AND STAFF ON. L P A ACTUALLY MOVED IT ALONG WAY FORWARD. OKAY? AND THEN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN ASKING. I UM IT'S ABOUT DENSITY. HOW YOU CALCULATE THE DENSITY ON. UH GROSS DENSITY NET DENSITY BASED ON THE TYPE OF LAND USE. THAT IS BEING SOUGHT. AND THEN OFF COURSE, UNDERLYING ZONE IN WHICH AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THE CPU, D. IF YOU EVER WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT I THINK MR REID STATE OR JUST TO GIVE UP. GENERAL PRIMER AGAIN JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. SO IN GENERAL, WE HAVE, UM, A FUTURE ANGIE'S TABLE SHE SET OUT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK IT'S POLICY A 7.5 ON THE TABLE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IT OUTLINES THE UNITS PER ACRE FOR EACH FUTURE LAND USE. ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE BASELINE FOR WHATEVER WE DO IN THE CITY. THAT IS THE MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT HE'S ALLOWED WITHIN THAT FUTURE LAND USE, SO WE START FROM A BASELINE OFF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT.
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IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN GENERAL AT ALLOWS 15 UNITS BREAKER. P U T. THEN OVERRIDES THAT IT'S A NEW ZONING LAYER. OVER TOP OF THAT. IN TERMS OF IT. COMMERCIAL PLANS, UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IN COMMISSION HAVE SEEN THIS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN DENSITY REQUEST FOR UP TO 30 UNITS. PERICA HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE LIMITS THAT. THE TOP NUMBER 2 15. THAT'S OUR STARTING POINT WITH THIS AS A MAXIMUM. IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE YOU GET THAT MAXIMUM, AND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY MAKES THAT POINT.IT IS NOT THE MAXIMUM YOU COULD GET. IN TERMS OF HOW WE. CALCULATE THE DENSITY. FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES MENTION THAT'S A GROSS. ON BAT'S BEEN IN THE COMPRESSIVE PLANNED FOR A LONG TIME. UM. IN CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THERE'S CERTAIN. APPLICATIONS WHERE YOU WOULD USE IN THAT DENSITY. BUT WHEN WE APPLY THE GROSS DENSITY TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM 396 UNITS.
DIVIDED BY 48.998, WHICH GIVES US JUST OVER EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. HMM. IF YOU HAVE. HAD IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE WORKED OUT AND NET DENSITY WHICH THEN THE CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THE SITE THAT WOULD BE REMOVED FOR THEM FROM THAT CALCULATION IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO. DIRECTION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
YOU USE THAT DENSITY. UM HELP YOU D USES GROSS DENSITY. MIXED USE USES IN THAT TENT CITY SO.
THAT'S A SPECIFIC CALCULATION IN THE MIXED USE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. UM SHE WAS A SPECIAL TABULATION. THANK YOU. MR. I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS MR MATHISON. MR FREEMAN. KIM THE HORNE ALSO EXAMINED THE STORMWATER CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO THEY'VE EXAMINED THE TRAFFIC. THE STORM WATER. HAS THE CITY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH MARTIN COUNTY REGARDING TRAFFIC? YES, AND THE STORM WATER. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE STORM WATER, BUT I'VE NO DEFINITELY THE TRAFFIC, OKAY? THE CURRENT. PRIOR ZONING OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE ANNEXATION WAS A ONE AGRICULTURE OF MARTIN COUNTY. YES. AND IT'S SET FOR THREE YEARS. GUNS OWNED, SO TO SAY, OR WITH THAT, JOANIE? YEAH. WE HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY THAT AIR LIKE THAT WITH ANNEXATION. AND MARTIN COUNTY ZONING. I KNOW WE HAVE AS A CITY WHEN THERE'S BEEN AN ANNEXATION. TAKING PLACE THAT INITIALLY HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD WITH A COVER. IF YOU LIKE OF MAINTAINING THE COUNTY FUTURE, ANGIE'S AND ZONING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY REMAINING BUT THERE IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THE ANNEXATIONS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN CONVERTED INTO PLANS YOU NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
THEY WERE MAJORITY WOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. WITH THAT. STABILIZING MOMENT OF ZONING. AS THE CITY OF HER, ANNEXED ANYTHING AND THEN KEPT THE COUNTY ZONING. WE CAN'T IT'S NOT OUR ZONING. SO TO BUILD ON IT, WE'D HAVE TO EITHER GIVE IT STRAIGHT ZONING OR PLAY BEAUTY. COME HERE, THEY CAN'T ISSUE A PERMIT. THANK YOU. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY MANDATES THAT WE APPLY A CITY. ZONING, A FUTURE LAND USE AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE MOMENT.
THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE MOMENT. YES. SO ANY ANNEXATION, THE ONES THAT I'VE SEEN NOW.
HAVEN'T REQUESTED A ZONING. THE ZONING HAS BEEN KEPT HIS COUNTY AND THEN MOANING HAS BEEN CHANGED. IT'S COME UP, AND I GUESS THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT ANNEXATION. WHAT SOME I THINK WERE. TRYING TO GAUGE WHAT THE INTENT. WAS DURING THAT ANNEXATION. YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD FIND MY ANSWER. I THINK FROM MY POINT OF VIEW NOW ON MY EXPERIENCE AS A PLANNER, I REALLY WOULD NOT RECOMMEND
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THAT THE CITY ADOPT ON X. PROPERTY WITHOUT PUTTING ON A FUTURE AND USE AND A ZONING THAT EARLIEST POSSIBLE MOMENT, WHICH SHOULD BE AT THE. TIME OF ANNEXATION. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS SO MOVING FORWARD, THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER METHODOLOGY WHERE IF WE ARE GOING TO ANNEX PROPERLY. IS THERE A METHODOLOGY THAT MIGHT IMPROVE ON THAT WORTH PROPERTY IS ANNEXED THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE ARE DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT. OTHER OPTIONS FOR A BETTER METHODOLOGY. UM, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMISSION. I THINK WHEN THE APPLICATION CAME THROUGH FOR ANNEXATION, THAT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION TOLO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO APPLY. A FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING UPON THEM. OKAY, IF I CAN PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE HISTORICAL DATA ON IT WHEN THE. ANNEXATIONS TOOK PLACE IN THE NINETIES HIMSELF. US ONE. BUT THEY DETERMINED WAS THAT IF THEY GAVE THEM. THE THREE OR WHATEVER COMMERCIAL ZONING. IT WAS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE ZONING HEARING COMPLETE LAND.YOU SEND IT FOR THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN AS SOON AS THEY BE STARTED DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN FOR A P UT ANYWAY, SO THE ZONING ITSELF. WAS JUST GONNA BE GIVING THEM STRAIGHT RIGHTS TO ZONE WITHOUT HAVING THE NEED FOR A COMMISSION HEARING, SO THEY DECIDED THAT WHENEVER THERE'S AN ANNEXATION, THEY WANT TO FORCE A COMMISSION HEARING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S WHY THEY DID IT. WITHHELD THE ZONING SO THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING TO BUILD. THANK YOU. AH, ATTORNEY MORE.
TELL THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR MR FREEMAN. ADEMIR. OKAY MR. COMMISSIONER MEYER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AS I THAT'S WHERE I MET TWO.
NICE MAYOR. UM, AND TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RESULTING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. FUTURE LANDED RIGHT, BUT FUTURE LAND USE IS VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN REASONING. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES, YOU DID. B ONE B TWO. YOU WOULD COME BACK FOR A C P UT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE UNDERLYING LAND USE IS CRITICAL BECAUSE IT HAS THOSE DENSITY CAPS IN A RESIDENTIAL SCENARIO. AND OTHER ANOTHER LIMITATIONS, SO I JUST IN MY VIEW WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS PARCEL, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS USEFUL. HOW, MR FITZWATER? DESCRIBED THE GENERAL AREA AROUND THIS PARCEL AND HOW IT CONTAINED A MIX OF USES SOME HIGH THERE. COUNTY AND CITY LAND USES AREN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATABLE. THEY CAN FEEL SIMILAR BUT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
RELATIVELY LOOK FEW LOW DENSITY AND IN COMMERCIAL. VARIOUS FLAVORS OF COMMERCIAL AND USE SO. IF I WERE THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT SAY WE WERE ANNEXING. WE HAD JUST ANNEXED THE PROPERTY LAST MEETING. WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORING PARCELS AND SAY WHAT IS COMPATIBLE AS A LAND USE FOR THAT AREA AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF CANDOR AND HOW IT'S BEEN WIDE. AND WHAT IF WE HAD AN EXIT AT ALL? OKAY. WELL, I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH ON. WELL, THIS IS MORE OF A DEBATE AND NOT THE QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT OKAY, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD. MR FREEMAN. CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE REMIND THE PUBLIC AND US HOW ANNEXATION WORKS. DOES THE CITY GO IN AND FIND A PARCEL AND YANK IT OUT OF THE COUNTY? THE CITY DOES NOT TAKE ANY PROACTIVE ROLE IN ANNEXATION REQUESTS, THE ONLY PRO ACTIVE ROLE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN TO MY KNOWLEDGE AN ANNEXATION REQUESTS WAS TOO UM. REMOVE THE LAND AROUND ANY CREEP TO ANNEX N S O. WE WERE ENABLED TO CONVERT THAT TO CONSERVATION. I AM, AND THAT'S MY ONLY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. WE RECEIVE REQUESTS FROM LANDOWNERS. UM, TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY. THEY ARE REVIEWED. T TO SEE IF THEY MEET STATE. LORD, IF THEY DO, THEY'RE PROCESSED AND THEN IT'S DETERMINED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. WHETHER OR NOT WE TAKE THOSE ANNEXATIONS. AND MR FREEMAN IS DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. I LOOK TO YOU AS BEING SORT OF THE YOU SAID THAT YOU HELP US. THINK ABOUT THE VISION FOR THE CITY ON A MUCH BROADER SCALE, LIKE THE INTENT OF LAND USE CATEGORIES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FROM A BROAD PLANNING PERSPECTIVE? SO ONE OF MY ISSUES WITH. ONE OF MY ISSUES WITH THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROJECT WHILE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT MEETS. LIKE YOU SAY IT'S GETTING THERE TO THE INTENSIVE OF SPECIAL DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD. DO YOU FIND? WHAT ARE THE KIND OF URBAN DESIGN PRINCIPLES OF THAT OF THAT PROJECT THAT MAKE IT. ALLOWABLE EXAMPLE OR YOU KNOW,
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BUT IT QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANYWAYS THAT THAT DESIGN CAN BE MODIFIED WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT? REDUCTION IN UNITS OR COMPLETELY CHANGING THE PROJECT. THAT CAN CAN REALLY MAKE IT LIVE UP A LITTLE MORE TO FULLY GET THERE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT FROM FROM THE STAFF POINT OF VIEW, WE'VE YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE. ITERATIONS OF BEING DEVELOPED THE PRIMARY. THINK A PRIMARY FOUNDATION TO THIS FUTILE AND USE IS THE IDEA OF CONNECTIVITY. AN ACTIVITY BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL SO. IF THERE WAS ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING WOULD BE BASED ON HOW DOES THAT? HOW DOES IT CONNECT? BETTER, I THINK. THE YOU KNOW THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A FULL TIME MOTILE PATH. THE OPENING UP TO A PLAZA AREA FROM THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE COMMERCIAL, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND NOT HAVE A CONFLICT WITH VEHICLES BECAUSE OF THE. THE ALTERATION THAT'S BEEN MADE TO THE DRIVE THROUGH. IS THOSE LITTLE PIECES THAT MAKE IT IT MAKES IT A PLACE WHERE IF YOU LIVED. YOU COULD WALK RIGHT AROUND THAT NEIGHBOR. THAT'S THE INTENT MORE OF BEING ABLE TO WALK THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FINALLY, IN OUR ONLY OTHER EXAMPLES OF THIS LAND USE IN THIS CITY AND HEAVENLY. NO, NO, WE'RE NOT. OVER. IT'S STILL IN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION. ALL THAT, UM ARE THE ARE THERE. THEIR GATED COMMUNITIES PROPOSED. FOR AH, THOSE PARTS OF THAT LAND USE.THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. I MEAN, GENERALLY, WOULD YOU SAY A GATED COMMUNITIES A COMBINATION? I THINK THERE'S A COMBINATION OF GATED ANDRE. OPEN, BUT I THINK. ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY PRIMARY OPEN. I HAVE TO JUST LOOK AT THOSE CLOSELY. THE INTENT WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT TO HAVE GATED. IT WAS TO BE A COMMUNITY, A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM. CONDUCTIVITY AND GATES. YEAH YES. DON'T REALLY WRITE JOB. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR FREEMAN, KID. IT'S A RAINES. I THINK THIS MAY BE MY LAST WITNESS. I'M GONNA ASK HIM ONE MORE QUESTION. HIS ANSWER MAY DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S MY LAST NINE IS THE FIRE MARSHAL WHO REVIEWED. THE PLANS. IS HE HERE THIS EVENING? UM I'M NOT SURE HE IS DOING DON'T FEEL OKAY. STUDIO ALREADY. PROBABLY FIRE MARSHAL. HE HAD TO GO TO WORK. OUR FIRE CHIEF IS COMING FORWARD. WHAT'S HE GOT TO A 14 HOUR DAY WE HEY WAS HERE EARLIER. FIRE CHIEF IS HERE. YOU WANT HIM TO COME TO THE WELL? YEAH, HE WAS THERE HE NEEDS TO BE OKAY. HOLD ON INJURY NOW HAS A QUESTION FOR MR FREEMAN BEFORE YOU CALL THE FIRE CHIEF. I'M GONNA MISS FREEMAN. DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH COSTCO DURING THE IN EXCESS IZATION PROCESS OF ANY OF THESE PARCELS? NO, I WASN'T HERE THEN. YOU. YOU'RE IN HERE, OFFICER BABY, THE WRONG PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE A PRIVATE CONSULTATION COMPANY? I DID. MOSTLY TO WORK WITH COMPANIES IN ENGLAND. HEY, UM, DID YOU EVER DO ANY WORK WITH THE CEDAR ASSOCIATES KNOW AS A CONTRACT? A DC ENGINEERING? NO, ROURKE, NO. ANY COMPANIES WHO WORKED WITH A COSTCO. NO. YEAH. MR MOORE TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO SWEAR IN THE FIRE CHIEFS, AND SHE WASN'T LISTED AS A HOPE THAT HE GETS WORN EARLIER. I DIDN'T YES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. WOULD TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. DID OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT GET A ONE ICE ALREADY? YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT, RIGHT? COULD YOU PLEASE? WHAT IS WEARING? COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? YEAH. VINCE FULL ASCIONE. FIRE CHIEF, AND MY LAST NAME IS F E L I C I O N E THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, UH, AND DID YOU REVIEW THIS SITE PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THE FIRE SAFETY AND. YEAH, I DID.
WE NORMALLY ARE. FIRE INSPECTORS. ALSO OUR PLAN. REVIEWER DOES THAT BUT WE DID REVIEW IT IN PREPARATION FOR TONIGHT. OKAY? AND UM SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DOES THIS MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE FOR? WHAT WE RECEIVED AND WHAT WAS REVIEWED BY ONE OF THE ENGINEERS EARLIER WITH RED SQUIGGLE LEASE ON IT. THAT WAS A CONCEPTUAL. WE KNOW
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IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. CONCEPTUALLY, WE HAD NO ISSUE, OKAY? SO, UH, THERE WAS A LETTER FROM MR. KAIKO HAN DATED MAY 12 2021. YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IT. NO, SIR. BUT IN THAT LETTER. STATES IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THE ENTIRE SITE DESIGN, PARTICULARLY THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, DOES NOT MEET IN FDA CRITERIA, MAKING IT A FIRE HAT FIRE. HAZARD DISASTER.WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT? NO, SIR. AND HE SAID, IT'S ALSO IT'S POSSIBLE THOUGH.
NOT CERTAIN THAT THE HOSE EACH REQUIREMENT MAYBE MET EACH HOSES REQUIREMENT MAYBE MET, BUT ONLY MARGINALLY. IF IT ALL. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT? NO, SIR. UH, IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR FIRE RESCUE TO RESPOND TO FIRES DUE TO PARK CARS, RESULTING IN SUBSTANDARD TURNOUT, TURNING RADIO AND ALSO IN THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY ACCESS. HYDRANTS AND A REAL LIFE IN REAL LIFE. AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT? NO, SIR. UH, NO FIRE MARSHAL IN HIS RIGHT MIND.
WOULD APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN, GIVEN THE LIMITED EGRESS AND EGRESS AVAILABLE, FULL RESPONSE AND THE INABILITY TO MANEUVER TO RESPOND TO HIM PARKED VEHICLES. MY QUESTION TO YOU, SIR, ARE YOU IN YOUR RIGHT MIND? YES. YEAH. I USED TO BE. YES, SIR. I AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. ARE YOU RESTING ON YOUR WITNESSES? MR THAT WAS THROUGH.
I'M READY TO CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION ON THAT MISS THE INTERVIEW. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE FIRE MARSHAL OF THE FIGHTING, MAN? I HAVE A OKAY. MR MACDONALD ADVICE MAYOR. IF WHAT IS HER I SO READING? IT IS A CLASS ONE RATING. WHAT IS THE BEST RATING? CLASS ONE RATING, SIR. THANK YOU. SERVE ICE THERE. FOR ANY PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD OF THIS MAGAZINE OR OTHERS. IS IT REQUIRED TO MEET? FIRE CODE. ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT CZAR? NO QUESTIONS. UM HAVE ENOUGH. SO COMMISSIONER THAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE SHOWN THROUGH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT WE COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART. I THINK YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IF THEY OPPOSE OR STOPPING PROJECT THAT NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN ON THE PROJECT. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. IF YOU DENY THIS PROJECT TONIGHT, SOMETHING ELSE WILL HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY AND THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND IT ZZYZX OBJECTIVE QUESTION, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A BETTER PROJECT OR OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO THAT. PROJECT AND I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COULD ARGUE THAT THERE WOULD BE BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S BRINGING GOOD JOBS. IT'S BRINGING QUALITY HOUSING. IT'S BRINGING A CONNECTOR ROAD. IT'S BRINGING STORMWATER QUALITIES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD QUALITIES ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT I THINK. WARRANTS IT BEING APPROVED. SO WE BELIEVE WE BROUGHT A GREAT PROJECT. TO THE CITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. AND THEREFORE WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE, UH, ORDINANCE 24662 0 TO ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANKS. MR RAINES. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS BRIEFLY FOR REGARDING WETLANDS. ME JUST MAKES BRING HIM IN AS AN EXPERT WITNESS. I'M HAPPY TO LET YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS ON HIM. HMM. IT WAS THIS A WEINBERG SWORN IN EARLIER. I THOUGHT I SAW HIM. I'LL BE ASKING THAT QUESTION. E JUST WANT TO TAKE MY MASK. UH ASK ME WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. WELL, LET ME ASK A FEW QUESTIONS FIRST, SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, EDWARD WEINBERG. AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES, I HAD. AND CAN YOU PLEASE STATE? AH, FOR THE RECORD. WHAT? YOUR OCCUPATION? WHAT? YOUR WORK.
HISTORY AND EDUCATION AREN'T POLICE, SIR. I HAVEN'T A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN BIOLOGY AND A MASTERS DEGREE IN OCEANOGRAPHY AND ABOUT 35 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT. I, UH. JUST ABOUT ALL THAT HAS BEEN HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY AND CERTAINLY IN THE TREASURE COAST. ALL RIGHT, AND CAN YOU IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PAPER THAT I HANDED TO YOU? THIS IS MY PROFESSIONAL RESUME AND ITS CURRENT AND ACCURATE.
YES, SIR. PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE. WHATEVER IT IS NOW. SO WITH THAT. FIRE
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WAY, SIR. MR WEINBERG? YOU SURE? DARK HAIRED. MONEY. WETLANDS ARE ON THE PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVEN WHITMAN POLYGONS ON THE PROPERTY. ACTUALLY, THERE'S A SORRY EIGHT. OKAY? AND YOU DID A RAP ANALYSIS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE AND SECRETARY HAVE DONE RAP ANALYSES ON SEVEN OF THEM. WHERE'S THE EIGHTH WETLAND? IT'S UP IN THE NORTH EAST CORNER ALONG WILLOUGHBY. THAT'S PART OF THE AREA THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTUAL PERMIT. AND SO THE SCORING HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN THAT LOCATION. THAT THE. NEW EIGHTH WETLAND DOES NOT HAVE. RAP ANALYSIS. AT THIS POINT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. CAN YOU.DO YOUR BEST TO DESCRIBE. VARIATION BETWEEN. EIGHT WENT FOR 1.44 AND A NUMBER ONE. WHAT ONE SURE. THE 0.41 AND 0.44. I GUESS THAT THIS WAY'S TOE TOL DESCRIBE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS IS PERCENTAGES. SO A PERFECT WETLAND WOULD BE 100. RIGHT. YOU'RE DROPPED FROM A HELICOPTER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EVERGLADES 100 YEARS AGO, THERE'S YOUR ONE. THERE'S A ONE WETLAND, A 100. SCORE. A 5.41 POINT. 44 IS ACHIEVES ABOUT 41% OR 44% OF THE FUNCTIONS YOU WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT IN A PERFECT WETLAND. RIGHT? WE HAVE ANY NUMBER ONE WETLANDS AND MARTIN COUNTY. NO. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST WETLANDS WE DO HAVE IN MARTIN. UH I WOULD GO INTO JONATHAN DICKINSON STATE PARK AS FAR AWAY FROM ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT OR OR ROADWAY OR ANY OTHER FACTORS. I COULD FIND. THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS WOULD BE IN SOMEWHERE IN JONATHAN DICKINSON STATE PART. SO THE WETLANDS IN THE CITY OF STEWART AND HANGING CREEK. HAVE YOU EVER DONE A RAP ANALYSIS ON THEM? NOT SPECIFICALLY. BE DONE ANY AND IN THE CITY? YES.
ORDERED SOME OF THE OTHER WETLANDS SCORE IN THE CITY. OTHER WEAPON SCORES IN THE CITY.
YEAH, PROBABLY RANGE FROM POINT. WHO? THE 0.7. DID YOU VISUALLY SEE MELALEUCA TREES AND EVERY WETLAND ON THE PROPERTY? NOT IN EVERYONE WENT ON THE PROPERTY. WHICH ONES DID THEY NOT EXISTED? UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT LET ME GRAB THE MAP. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERING SYSTEM IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. BUT. WE NEED TO USE THE AREA. OH, MR REED'S IF HELP YOU. ITSELF. FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT. DISTRICT APPROVES MITIGATION.
ALL PAYMENTS HERE PAID TO BLUEFIELD. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S A PRIVATE TRANSACTION BETWEEN WHOEVER THE PERMIT HE IS AND THE MEDICATION BANK. THERE IS NOT MONEY PAID TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. BUT IT. HE DESCRIBED THEM THE MITIGATION PROCESS. IF THIS IS APPROVED ALL THE WETLANDS ALL MEDICATION HAS MADE A BLUE FIELD. PAYMENTS, I GUESS. THAT IS THE WAY THE CONCEPTUAL PERMIT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ISSUED IS WRITTEN AND. BASED ON THE WAY THE CITY CODE READS. THE REQUIREMENT IS TO PROVIDE MITIGATION AT A MITIGATION BANK THAT HAS A SERVICE AREA THAT INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND BLUEFIELD BRANCHES. THE ONLY MITIGATION BANK THAT CURRENTLY INCLUDES THE PROJECT IN ITS SERVICE AREA. HOW DO MY LUKA TREES EFFECTIVE WEAPON? THEY OUT COMPETE NATIVE VEGETATION
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AND REMOVE HABITAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR NATIVE WILDLIFE AND OTHER VEGETATION.THINK THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS, MADAM. ANY QUESTION SOME OF THE WEINBERG FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S. HAVE ONE BUT A MAYOR? YES SIR. THIS MIGHT NOT BE IN YOUR. PURVIEW, BUT I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS WITH WITH LARGE PIECES OF LAND THAT HAVE. NATURALLY OCCURRING WETLANDS.
UM NO, NOT AS THE RESULT OF. DRAINAGE FROM OFF SITE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES IN THE CITY. UM. IS THERE SOME IS THERE SOME STATE STATUTE OR LOCAL REGULATION? THAT WOULD, UM. WOULD INCENTIVIZE OR REQUIRE A PRIVATE LANDOWNER, TOO. MANAGE OR PROTECT. WETLANDS OF ANY PARTICULAR EQUALITY ON THEIR PROPERTY, RATHER THAN PERHAPS LET THEM. IT FILLED WITH EXOTICS. HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT PROCESS TYPICALLY HAPPEN? AND YOUR EXPERIENCE IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER 30? SOME ODD YEARS OF DOING THIS? THE ONLY TIME THAT DISCUSSION BEGINS IS ONE THAT LANDOWNER OF REQUEST PERMISSION TO USE THEIR LAND IN A FASHION DIFFERENT THAN IT'S BEING USED THE DAY THEY BOUGHT IT AROUND IT. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S ALWAYS THE PERMIT APPROVAL. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPROVAL YOU NAME THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S WHEN THEY ASKED TO MAKE A CHANGE. THAT IT MR MEYER? YES, MADAM. HERE. UM. INTERVENE OR DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR WEINBERG? OKAY? MR. BRINGS I'M NOT CONFUSED. OKAY, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE DONE, SO WE JUST CLUB IT'S A WONDER BECAUSE HOW MICHELLE WANTED HIM. OKAY.
THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE DONE. OKAY, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE DONE. SO THE NEXT PERSON WILL HAVE IS THE INTERVENER. I JUST HAVE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING. THINGS TO SAY, NUMBER ONE TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE AND BEEN RESPECTABLE ALL EVEN WE THANK YOU. IF YOU SEE US UP ON THE DICE HERE, LEAVING THE ROOM, WE HAVE FULL ACCESS BY VIEW AND BY. HERE IN WHEN WE'RE OUT OF THE ROOM TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE AND TO HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS, SO IT'S NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT THAT WE LEAVE THE ROOM, AND SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO HAVE AH. NOT TO HAVE A LONG BREAK. WHAT LET EACH OF US TAKE TURNS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU SEE US LEAVE THE DAYS IT'S NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT. ALSO IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE LEFT, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO GIVE COMMENTS. YOU CAN TELL HIM THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THAT NOW THEY CAN EITHER RETURN HERE. THEY CAN TRY TO FOLLOW WHATEVER PROCEDURES WE HAVE ONLINE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TOW US. INTERVENER IS GOING TO BE CALLED AND WE HAVE A CHOICE OF US INTERVENER AND I'LL ASK MY BOARD. IF THE INTERVIEW NO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US ALL. TAKE A BREAK FOR JUST FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THEY PRESENT OR JUST GO FORWARD AND LET PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TAKE THEIR OWN BREAK ON THEIR OWN TIME. AND, UM.
THAT'S IT. SO IN ARENA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK? LIKE FOR ME TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BREAK? THE CLERK HAS TAKEN A BREAK. THE CLERK HAD TO DO SOME THINGS BOTH FOR HER PAPERWORK AS WELL AS JUST HUMAN NATURE. AND SO, UM, CLERK DID HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK, AND WE ALSO DID.
BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. IF WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, THAT'S FINE. OH, MARY. THE BLAME IT ON THE CLERK. IT'S NOT LIKE A COURT REPORTER WHERE SHE HAS TO REDO HER PAPERWORK HER HER MACHINE, BUT. SO WE WILL CALL NOW MR MORTAL IS IN A SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE INTERVENER. DID YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
OKAY? I WAS ASKING YOU DID HERE. FIVE MINUTE BREAK. SEE YOU BACK AT MIDNIGHT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. WR BREAK. AND WE HAD STOPPED AT THE. ADDITIONAL REST IN THEIR CASE AND THE INTERVENE. A WILL BE PRESENTING. AND THE INTERVIEWER HAS ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN. SO MISS LINDA KATE RICHARDS. UM. WOULD YOU PLEASE OFFER YOUR EVIDENCE? US. GOOD
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MORNING YET. OKAY OKAY. SHE'S REPRESENTED BY JENNY SHERLOCK IN A SHALLOW COUNSEL FOR THE INTERVENERS. INDICATE RICHARDS IS GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION. I JUST WANTED TO JUST START OUT BY. REMINDING YOU THAT. WHAT THIS PROCESS IS FOUR. FOR THE PUBLIC. IT'S FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY'S STUART E THINK IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAYS. IT'S AFTER 10 O'CLOCK. YOU HAVE EFFECTIVELY SHUT UP. SHUT OUT. LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO HAD SOMETHING TO SAY EITHER GOOD OR BAD FOR AGAINST. DOESN'T MATTER.THEY'RE GONE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LAST THIS LONG. SO THE PROCESS HAS BEEN QUESTIONABLE. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD AND MORE THAN FOUR HOURS HERE. IS WE'VE HEARD COMMISSIONERS WHO. SEEM TO BE NOT DECIDING WHETHER TO APPROVE THE PROJECT. BUT NEGOTIATING THE TERMS OF APPROVED. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING HERE. THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC ON THIS SIDE OF THE DIOCESE HEARING. MOST OF THEM ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE GONE. THERE WAS AN OVERFLOW CROWD HERE WHEN WE STARTED. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HEARD. YOU HAD A STAFF MEMBER MADE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN SAT FOR FOUR HOURS WITH THE APPLICANT OVER HERE. SAT WITH HIM. ON THEIR SIDE. A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BY THE COMMISSION SEEM DESIGNED TO MEET THE APPLICANTS. BURDEN OF PROOF. SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT IS QUESTIONABLE. THE INTERVENER WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION WILL HAVE SOME TESTIMONY, BUT NOT A LOT OF HOPE. WHAT WE'RE GETTING HERE.
IS A FAIR HEARING. UM IMPARTIAL DECISION MAKERS. THANKS. THANK YOU, MISS. THANK YOU, MR LOCKE.
OKAY, BEFORE YOU START SLIPPING, CAM, SORRY. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS CLAPPING AND DOING THIS AFTER EACH THING. JUST PLEASE. THAT'S JUST HOLD IT BACK. THANK YOU FOR UM. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER STAFF. APPLICANT. I DID EXPECT TO BE APPEAR A LITTLE BIT SOONER. I MUST SAY IT'S NICE TO STAND NPR NOT HAVE TOL PUT ALL MY WORDS AND THOUGHTS AND THE THREE MINUTES AS I USUALLY DO WHEN I'M UP HERE. THERE IS A PRICE OF ADMISSION TO BE STANDING APPEARS INTERVENER. I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM NOT ONE WOMAN REPRESENTING ONE FAMILY OR ONE BUSINESS. I AM BUT ONE VOICE OF A COMMUNITY THAT IS FIGHTING TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
OVER 1100 PEOPLE SIGN THE ONLINE PETITION AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT IN 14 DAYS. OF THAT 823 ARE MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS. NEIGHBORHOODS OF COULD BE IN A POINT AND A LOBBY. HIYA BOTH SUBMITTED THEIR OWN PETITIONS AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND THERE ARE NEARLY 600 MEMBERS OF THE FACEBOOK GROUP AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT. ON THE NARRATIVE WAS PUSHED. THAT HAS ONLY BEEN ONE FAMILIES FIGHT. THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. WHY I FIND IT NOT PERTINENT TO THIS DISCUSSION. AND I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SCRATCH THIS FROM MY OPENING STATEMENT UNTIL MR MARINO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I SOLD HIM OR SOLD THE LAND. I MEAN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. MY GRANDFATHER, STAN SMITH. HE ONCE OWNED A LOT OF LAND AROUND THE WILL OF THE AREA THAT HE WAS A PIONEER IN THE FLOWER FARMING BUSINESS WITH SNS FLOWERS, AND YOU ALSO STARTED THE FIRST TRAVEL AGENCY IN MARTIN COUNTY. OUT THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, HE SOLD OFF MANY PIECES OF LAND, KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, AND HE DID IT FOR THE GROWTH AND THE GOOD OF MARTIN COUNTY AND STUART. AND IN FACT WHEN HE SOLD ONE, HIS LAST BITS OF LAND, WHICH WAS TO THE COUNTY ON WILLOUGHBY, HE INSISTED THAT A PORTION OF LAND BE USED FOR RECREATION. NOW I AM SURE HE DID NOT HAVE A WATER PARK IN MIND WHEN HE HAD THAT STIPULATION PUT INTO THE CONTRACT. BUT WE HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT WAS THE RECREATION THAT GOT PUT THERE. AS FOR THE LAND IN QUESTION TONIGHT TO THE PERSONS WERE OWNED AND SOLD BY MY UNCLE, WHO HAS NO AFFILIATION WITH THE LADY TREE NURSERY. ONE WAS SOLD TO MY BY MY GRANDFATHER IN 1972, THE SOUTH WATER FLORIDA MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FOR FLOOD CONTROL. YES THERE WAS ONE PIECE THAT WAS SOLD OUT OF MY GRANDFATHER'S TEST FOR MY GRANDMOTHER'S CARE.
MY FAMILY, THE FAMILY THAT BUILT THE LATE YOU TREE NURSERY OVER THE PAST 45 YEARS NEVER
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OWNED ANY OF THE LAND AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF WE DID, WE WOULD BE FARMING. IT. AND THE ANSWER, MR CAMPAIGN ASKED IN A NEWS LATER. WHY DIDN'T MY FAMILY DIDN'T DEVELOP THIS LAND INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, LIKE MY FATHER TOLD ME WE'RE FARMERS, NOT DEVELOPERS, NOT LAND SPECULATORS. AND WE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD DO WHAT IT SAID IT WOULD DO AND THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THAT LAND. ALWAYS WAS. ONCE IT LEFT AGRICULTURE, IT WOULD BE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY AT FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. ONCE IT WAS DEVELOPED. IT WAS GONNA BE A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT A CONCRETE JUNGLE. ONLY I'M GOING QUICKLY ADDRESS THE COSTCO'S GOOD NEIGHBORS CLAIMS FIRST AND FOREMOST, THEY DID NOT MOVE THE COSTCO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF ALLEGED TRAINER STRAIGHT THEY DIDN'T EVEN MEET WITH US UNTIL 2021 WITH THE THIRD GENERATION OF THE PROJECT. SAVE THAT THAT IS JUST INCORRECT. THEY. DID NOT DO. THE 2 18 2018 PLAN IS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO MOVE THAT BOT BASIN AND IT WAS EITHER TOO EXPENSIVE OR THEY WERE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT. WE DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY DID MAKE TWO MINOR CHANGES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HUGE PAT ON THE BACK FOR THEM. AND THE REASON WE DID IT IS WE NEEDED TO PROTECT OUR BUSINESS INTERESTS.LAST SLEEP IN THE GOOD GOOD NEIGHBOR ASPECT. THEY FAILED TO REACH OUT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT SITS JUST EAST OF COSTCO. THE COSTCO IS RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD, AND THEY WENT TO THE OPA WITHOUT EVEN MEETING WITH THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT'S NOT VERY NEIGHBORLY. AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE. I CAN'T LEAVE THE COSTCO EXACTS ACTUALLY SPOUT AND THEIR EMAIL SUBSCRIBERS ASKING THEM TO EMAIL ARE SMALL CITY COMMISSION WITH A SUPPORTING OF A BIG BOX STORE WITHOUT ANY OTHER REFERENCE TO WHAT IT COMES WITH. HELEN APPROPRIATE. THE SITE. LOCATION IS SHAME ON COSTCO. THIS HEARING IS NOT ABOUT ME OR MY FAMILY BUSINESS OR WHO USED TO OWN THE LAND, AND IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT COSTCO. IT'S NOT ABOUT JOBS OR ABOUT BUYING GAS CHEAP OR IN BOOK OR A DOLLAR 50 HOT DOG. THIS IS ABOUT A PIECE OF LAND. IT WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S ABOUT 398 APARTMENT UNITS THAT DO NOT FULFILL THE CITY'S HOUSING REQUIREMENTS IS ABOUT ANOTHER STRIP MALL WHEN SO MANY LATE BACON IN THE CITY. THE TWO ARE OUT PARCELS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY MIGHT BE. IT'S ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY, CHANGING THE RULES TO MAKE IT FIT, EVEN IF IT IS A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE. IT'S ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES, SAFETY ISSUES, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS OF MARTIN COUNTY. IT'S ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT BELONG. SADLY MANY OF THE FOLKS I SPOKE TO EARLIER TONIGHT HE WERE HERE THEY WERE THINKING THEY WERE SUPPORTING JUST A COSTCO AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THEIR FACES. WHEN I TOLD HIM IT CAME WITH 390 APARTMENTS AND A STRIP MALL. LASTLY AND OPENING OPENING.
GONNA UM. LOVETT HISTORY OF THE SITE HERE AND, UM. IN 2007 AND IN 2010 EYCK. RIDGES WERE PARTS WERE PURCHASED FOR 359,000. ON BEN IN 214 AND THEN LATER IN 15 2020 ACRES WERE BOUGHT AT A QUARTER OF THE PRICE OF $86,000. SO WHAT? THIS CLEARLY SHOWS TO ME IS THAT THE CURRENT LANDOWNERS. PERHAPS PAID WAY TOO MUCH ON THEIR LAND, AND NOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A HIGHER RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT. SHE WAS THAT. UM, SO WAS I HAD STATED WHEN I TALKED TO MR MARINO. THIS PROJECT IS DESIGNED THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S THE ON LEEWAY IT CAN TO PUT THE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. TODAY. YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THIS CAMERA. C P U T ABOUT THE LOOPHOLES AND INCONSISTENCIES CHANGES IN CONFLICTS THAT BROUGHT YOU THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT IN INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE LOCATION. THEN WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF STUART. THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE DEFINITIONS OF EITHER THE FUTURE LAND USE OR THE CPU DESIGNATION THAT IT'S ASKING FOR. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO ASK ROBIN QUITE RIGHT TO COME UP. AND TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THIS BEAUTY. GOOD EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. SO ALL MY TESTIMONY. I THINK ACCURATE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIRST OF ALL THAT OUR PRESENTATION SLIDES THAT WE PRESENTED ON MAY 12 TO THE CITY FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WERE USED BY THIS EVENING BY THE DEVELOPER. SO I GUESS IMITATION IS THE GREATEST FORM OF FLATTERY. UM, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE CPD. HOW THE CITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED. AND HOW LONG THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN PROCESS. BUT BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING.
IT HAS BEEN SET AGAIN. LIKE LINDA KAYE SAID THAT THIS EFFORT IS ONE FAMILY. IN FACT, MR CAMPENNI AGAIN STATED IN ITS MOST RECENT LOSING NEWSLETTER THAT ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS
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OR FOR ONE FAMILY AND BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR LITERAL BACKYARD. THEY'RE THE ONES FIGHTING THIS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST SAYING NOT IN MY BACKYARD, SO LET ME TELL YOU AND THE PROBABLY ONLY TWO PEOPLE LEFT AT HOME OR WATCHING ON SOON BECAUSE IT'S SO LATE. AND I AM HOW I'M RELATED TO THE SNYDER FAMILY IN THIS PROJECT, AND THE TRUTH IS, I'M NOT RELATED TO THEM. I KNEW THEM WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS IN OUR LITTLE TOWN AND THE COMMONALITY THAT WE HAVE THAT MAKES US FAMILY IS THE FACT THAT WE CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. SO WHOSE BACKYARD IS IT? IN? BUT THE OWNERS OF LIGHTY NURSERY WON'T TELL YOU IS THAT YES, THE OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY IN THEIR BACKYARD AND RIGHTFULLY THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RUMORS OF THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR OF THIS MAGNITUDE GOING IN JUST BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS FOR LOW DENSITY HOUSING. IT HAS THIS PROJECT HAS EVOLVED FROM JUST A COSTCO WITH NO APARTMENTS, WHICH WE WILL SHOW YOU AFFECTING THINGS LIKE THE DAYLIGHT AVAILABLE TO THE PLANTS ON THEIR NURSERY. HE SOON REALIZED THAT THIS PROJECT WILL AFFECT SO MANY MORE THAN JUST THEM AND JUST THEIR BUSINESS. WILL SAY THAT THE DEVELOPER OF COSTCO IS PERSISTENT AND YOU WILL SEE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON CONSIDERABLY LONGER THAN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND DEFINITELY LONGER THAN THE APRIL 29TH LP. A MEETING. AS YOU HEARD ONE OF COSTCO STAFF SENT OUT A SPAM EMAIL ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT A SITE THEY CREATED AND ASKED PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. DON'T YOU THINK IF THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD FIT ON THIS SITE FOR THIS COMMUNITY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT THEY DID. YOUR REASONING THAT THEY'RE A GOOD PARTNER. THEY MET WITH THE OWNERS OF LIGHTING NURSERY AND THEY MADE CONCESSIONS AND THEY HAVE WHAT THEY FEEL. THE MENTION IS THAT THEY HAD TO MOVE SOME ITEMS TO ACCOMMODATE THE PERMANENT EASEMENT OF THE FLORIDA D O T POND. THE REASON THEY'RE GOOD FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. THEY ALLOW SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO PURCHASE IN BULK ONCE THEY BUY A MEMBERSHIP. BUT THAT'S A BIT REDUNDANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. SO WITH CORONAVIRUS FOR YOUR OWN REFERENCE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN STATISTICALLY TO THE NATION AND TO OUR TOWN? BIG BOX STORES. SALES SOARED DURING THE PANDEMIC. IT IS ESTIMATED THAT 40% OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTRY WILL CLOSE JUST DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A BIG BOX STORE BUT TWO MILES FROM DOWNTOWN STORE? FURTHERMORE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES AND START THAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE HEARING AIDS SPECIALISTS AND THE OPTOMETRY. ARE THEY GOING TO BUY WHAT THEY NEED FROM COSTCO? WHAT ABOUT THE AUTO REPAIR PEOPLE? ARE THEY GOING TO GO TO THE AUTO REPAIR SHOP THAT COSTCO HAS PROMISED? NO. THE REASONING FOR THE APARTMENTS ON THEIR WEBSITE.LISTED APARTMENTS ARE NEEDED BECAUSE NONE WERE BUILT BETWEEN 2008 IN 2018. THAT WAS A RESULT OF THE BIG SHORT THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING FINANCIALLY WITH THE LAND THAT THEY PURCHASED.
WHAT THEY FAIL TO MENTION IS THAT THEY'RE ENOUGH APARTMENTS APPROVED BY THIS CITY COMMISSION SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS FOR ALMOST 3500 PEOPLE TO BE IN OUR SIX POINT, WHATEVER SQUARE MILES SMALL LITTLE TOWN. AND TONIGHT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. 1415 $100 FOR ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT. NOT AFFORDABLE, NOT ATTAINABLE. AND AGAIN THERE BUZZ WORDS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE USING THAT TO SAY THAT THEY CAN WORK AT THE SCHOOL BOARD. OR MAYBE A LOCAL BUSINESS NEARBY. BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD SALARY STATISTICALLY IS LOWER THAN WHAT SOMEBODY CAN AFFORD, AND IF THEY HAVE CHILDREN AND NEED TO HAVE A TWO OR THREE BEDROOM, IT IS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE LIKE ME. COME IN. I DON'T LIVE ON CANNER ACTUALLY LIVED BY THE AUDUBON SOCIETY.
BUT THIS PARCEL THIS IS MY BACKYARD AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DEVELOPED THE SAVE OUR STORE WEBSITE ALSO NOT RELATED TO ME OR LYCHEE TREE NURSERY. THEY PROBABLY DON'T LIVE ON CANNER.
BUT THEY SEE STORED IS THEIR BACKYARD TO MOST OF US HERE TONIGHT WHO OPPOSE THIS LOCATION, NOT COSTCO. BUT THIS LOCATION ON CANDOR HIGHWAY DON'T LIVE ON CANNER. THIS PARCEL IS ON THE STRIP OF ROAD IN THIS TOWN IN THIS COUNTY, AND IT BELONGS TO ALL OF US. IT IS ALL OF OUR BACKYARDS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE EVOLUTION OF THE CANDOR CPD THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. FIRST ANNEXATION IS NOTED BY THE DEVELOPER WAS ORIGINALLY DONE IN JULY OF 2016. WHAT'S INTERESTING WAS AT THE L P A MEETING THAT I'M SURE ALL OF YOU WATCHED, OR AT LEAST ALL THE NOTES ON, THE DEVELOPER SAID VERY SPECIFICALLY. THAT HE HAD NO INFORMATION OR WAS AWARE OF ANY DESIGNATED LAND USE PRIOR TO HIS REQUEST. PART OF THE DECEMBER 12 2016 1ST READING AT THE ANNEXATION REQUEST TO THE CITY OF STORIES SAYS VERY SPECIFICALLY MARTIN COUNTY'S LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT. AND THEN FOR THE COUNTY LAND USE THAT TALKED VERY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LOW DENSITY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. PART OF THE DECEMBER 12 2000 AND X 2016 ANNEXATION ALSO, AND THIS IS WHY I KNOW THEY USED OUR SLIDES BECAUSE THIS WASN'T PART OF THEIR LP, A PRESENTATION. CITY, LAND USE AND CITY ZONING TO BE DETERMINED, LIKELY MULTI FAMILY LIMITED COMMERCIAL OR IN OUR PUD AT NO POINT DOES IT TALK ANYTHING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.
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CONCRETE JUNGLE. THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS WHEN THEY ANNEXED THE LAND. SO THE DENSITY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANTS RESPONSE OR NOT ACCEPTABLE, AND THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN REJECTED BY STAFF INITIALLY. GENERAL COLUMN ON THE TABLE THAT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER THIS EVENING.A 7.2 POINT TWO, SAYS THE GENERAL COLUMN OF THE TABLE WAS ORIGINALLY INCLUDED AND REMAINS TO ADDRESS DEVELOPMENTS OUTSIDE OF A BEAUTY. THERE IS STILL LAND IN THE CITY OF STORY THAT IS NOT A BEAUTY, WHICH MAY BE DEVELOPED AS DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH THE QUESTION I BELIEVE FROM COMMISSIONER MEYER. WITHOUT THE PD DESIGNATION THERE ADDRESSED IN THE TABLE BY THE GENERAL COLUMN. I ENLARGE THE DENSITIES IN THE GENERAL COLUMN ARE LESS THAN THE BEAUTY COLUMN BECAUSE UNDER THE PD PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, PUBLIC SERVICE AND INDUSTRIAL LAND AND DEVELOPMENT. AN ALTERNATIVE ZONING. JUST KIDDING. SO TO CONTINUE THIS THIS ONE SLIDE. AS SUCH, THE DENSITIES WERE INCREASED. AND AS SUCH, THE USE OF GENERAL COLUMN IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE C P U T. THE CONDITIONS IN THE TABLE, WHICH MOST CLOSELY MATCHED THE COMBINATION OF THE CPU, D AND NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE THE INTERSECTION OF THE COLUMN, R P U D AND THE MAJOR U C SUB COLUMN, NOT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. AND ROW NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY AT THIS INTERSECTION IS NOT DEFINED. SO THEN WE GET INTO THE DENSITY IN THE LAND.
USE QUESTION HOW WE CAN WE AGREE ON DEFINITIONS WHEN DOCUMENTS ARE NOT UPDATED IN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. IN PARAGRAPH THREE OF 20 TO 32 2017, WHICH THE EARS AND THE MUNICH CODE WERE UPDATED IT REFERENCES NET RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. WE DO NOT SEE GROSS RESIDENTIAL DENSITY UNTIL 2019. SO. 2401-2019 PARAGRAPH THREE FINALLY CHANGES IT TO GROSS RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. HOWEVER, THE YEARS WAS UPDATED, BUT THE MUNICH CODE WAS NOT. SO STILL CONTINUE WITH THE DENSITY AND LAND USE QUESTION. TABLE. 38 TALKS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. WITH THE CAVEAT OF UP TO 30 UNITS, DENSITY UNITS PER ACRE UPON APPROVAL BY CITY COMMISSION THROUGH AN URBAN CODE EXCEPTION, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE HERE. AND THEN ALSO IN TABLE THREE BE THE MAXIMUM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE BEAUTY.
SORRY ABOUT MY LITTLE CUTTING AND PASTING SITUATION THERE, BUT IT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. NO CAVEAT. NO ASTERISK. NOTHING FOR YOU TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE IT. TO WHATEVER THE DENSITY IS, AND LINDA K. WILL ADDRESS THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO GROSS DENSITY RELATED TO THE C P, U D AND 2401-2019. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT DURING FOR COSTCO, SPECIFICALLY THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY OF SHORTENING GRANTED NOT THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STAFF. DEVELOPER IN THE CITY OF SORT OF BEEN WORKING TO SECURE THIS LONG BEFORE THE PRESENTATION CAME BEFORE THE EPA ON APRIL 29. YOU CAN SEE THIS EMAIL FROM HIS KING DAVID OCTOBER. 11 2017 HER CORRESPONDENCE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF COSTCO DEVELOPING IN THE CITY OF STUART. JIM WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING SO WE LISTEN, PEOPLE LET ME KNOW HOW TO PROCEED. THEN THERE'S A RESPONSE. HEY, HERE'S THE BACKGROUND OF THIS WHOLE ENTIRE SITUATION, WHICH IS COMPLETELY FLUSHED OUT. I BUMPED INTO TIM.
WE TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. COSTCO CAME UP. HOSKO IDENTIFIED THE CITY OF SHORT AGAIN BACK IN 2017. IS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR A NEW IS A POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR A NEW LOCATION ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. SO NOW WE'RE BACK INTO 2014 BEFORE THE LAND WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY BY NAMIE AND WILLOUGHBY. IT EVEN SAYS RIGHT THERE. PORT ST LUCIE IS AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO RECRUIT THEM. I'D LIKE TO ASSURE THAT WE'RE AWARE AND THAT WE AS A CITY OR DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SECURE THEIR INTEREST. AND THEN TERRY O'NEILL HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF COMMUNICATING WITH THEM. I SPOKE TO TERRY IN IT LAST MONTH, AND HE'S CERTAINLY AWARE OF THE SITUATION. IN RESPONSE TO THAT, MISS KING SAYS TABLE SET UP SOMETHING WITH YOU THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND IN 2018. MISS GLASS. LEIGHTON RECEIVED A COMMENT FROM A CONSTITUENT, PRESUMABLY OR AN EMAIL ASKING ABOUT HIS COSTCO COMING TO START 2018. FIRST PROJECT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR CONSIDERATION. IT WAS PULLED WHEN IT WAS A SINGLE PROJECT WAS 2019 FOR CONTEXT. SEATING VERY SPECIFICALLY. THANKS FOR REACHING OUT TO ME WITH YOUR CONCERNS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. NO, THE CITY IS NOT RECRUITING COSTCO. TO MY KNOWLEDGE. THEY HAVEN'T MADE AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY. YET CITY STAFF IS INHERENTLY AND INVOLVED WITH THIS DISCUSSION. AS I MENTIONED TO THE TC POEM REPORTER, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE COSTCO OPENING STORES TO THE CITY. THEN SHE TALKS ABOUT WAGES, AND THEN SHE GOES ON TO SAY. THAT SHE WILL ADDRESS IT IN LATER DATE IF THEY DECIDE TO APPLY. THEN MISS HOLTZMAN IN A RESPONSE FROM T C PALM. WHEN LOOKING INTO THIS STORY, THE
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DEVELOPER OVERPAID FOR THE PARCELS, AND IT IS NOT THE JOB OF THE CITY STAFF OR COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A PROFITABLE PROJECT ON ANY LAND, MUCH LESS THIS LAND. AGAIN.THIS IS NOT ABOUT COSTCO. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS PARCEL BEING UTILIZED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. SHE COMMENTED TO MR HOGARTH, WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY THAT THE APPLICATION HAD THE CONTACT INFO. I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR OVER AND I JUST TALKED TO DR NIIMI, WHO IS A MANAGING MEMBER OF MIMI HOLDING AND OWNS 41% OF WILLOUGHBY GROUP. HE'S IN AUSTIN VISITING HIS KIDS. HE TOLD ME HE'S AS DISAPPOINTED AS ANYONE AND ISN'T SURE WHAT THE HOLDUP IS BECAUSE HE HAD ALSO HEARD COSTCO WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP. I TOLD HIM TO TALK TO MAMOUD INDEED. AND ASK HIM IF HE WAS HOLDING OUT SO MORE SHALL BE REVEALED.
HOPEFULLY BY MONDAY, WHEN I WANT TO FINISH THIS STORY SO AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER KNEW THE CITY NEW. SO ON 1 17 2019 TO THE L P A 29.3 ACRES PULLED BY THE DEVELOPER. AT THAT POINT, THE SUBMISSION WAS A COSTCO ONLY. ON JANUARY 20TH 2019 TO THE CITY COMMISSION PULLED BECAUSE IT DID NOT GO IN FRONT OF THE L P A. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT FEES BECAUSE THIS SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE BIG HOT TOPICS WHEN THE L P A WAS MEETING WHAT FEES WILL BE GENERATED AND WHAT MONEY WILL BE GENERATED FOR OUR CITY OF STORE? SO HERE, MR FREEMAN SAYS TO MR REED'S VERY SPECIFICALLY AS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND RETAIL USE, AND CAN WE CONDUCT SOME KIND OF STUDY TO REDUCE THEIR IMPACT FEES? MR FREEMAN SAYS TO MR REED'S HOLD OFF ON THAT THIS MAY BE A HYBRID IMPACT FEE BASED ON A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN RETAIL AND WHOLESALE.
SO HERE WE ARE, WITH THE CITYNGR TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPER THAT MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND MAY NOT BE CONGRATS WITH WHAT THE CITY LAND CODE.
IS DESIGNED. FOR IF HE WOULD BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE APPLICATION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO HERE WE STILL HAVE CITY STAFF WORKING TO FIND A WAY TO FIND A LOOPHOLE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY LOOKING FOR A WAY TO AVOID FEES AGAIN, MR FREEMAN TO MR REED'S.
TOM WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BLEND THE COSTCO AND RESIDENTIAL BEAUTIES. SO A REMINDER THESE WERE TWO INDEPENDENT PROJECTS THAT WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD NEVER PASS. THE DENSITY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WOULD NEVER PASS THIS. COMMISSION BECAUSE IT WAS MORE THAN 28 UNITS PER ACRE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, AND THE COSTCO SIDE WOULD NEVER PASS BECAUSE THAT LAND WOULD NEVER BE CONVERTED TO A C P UT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO HE SAYS, TOM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BLEND THEM. I'M GOING TO WORK UP SOME IDEAS AND WANT YOU TO DO THE SAME. CAN WE MAKE THE LAYOUT BETTER TO ACCOMMODATE CROSS COLLECTIVITY? WHAT DESIGN INTERVENTION OR SOLUTION WOULD CREATE A BENEFIT THAT WE COULD JUSTIFY A REDUCTION IN IMPACT FEES? OR REQUIREMENTS. COULD THIS BE IN OUR POD BECAUSE OF THE FLOOR SPACE INVOLVED. WHAT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BUY FOR KATE, THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ELEMENTS ASSOCIATIONS? DO WE ASK FOR A VEHICLE CONNECTION TO WILLOUGHBY? IF SO, WITH THE COUNTY BE OK WITH THE ACCESSES DOES NOT ALIGN WITH TRAFFIC SIGNAL. HAD RANCOR. IF IT IS A BIKE PET ON LEE. WHAT SHOULD THE DESIGN LOOK LIKE? AND HERE'S MR REESE IS RESPONSE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ON LEE POINT OUT THIS ONE SECTION WHILE ALL OF IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO SOMEBODY WHO IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY. WHAT DESIGN INTERVENTION OR SOLUTIONS? COULD WE CREATE A BENEFIT THAT COULD JUSTIFY A REDUCTION IN THE IMPACT FEES? THERE ARE SEVERAL EXPAND THE PEDESTRIAN AREA IN FRONT OF THE COSTCO AT TABLES. DOESN'T THAT SOUND LOVELY FOR AN OUTDOOR SPACE INCORPORATED TRAFFIC CODE WITH LANDSCAPING FEATURES THAT WOULD FUNCTION AS A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE FOR AN ENTRANCE FOR BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. MOVE THE FUELING STATION TO THE SIDE. OR REAR OF THE COSTCO BUILDING THAT COULD BE DESIGNED AS A TRANSITIONAL BUILDING BETWEEN THE TWO USES SO AGAIN TAX DOLLARS PAYING FOR AN AD HOC STAFF FOR THE DEVELOPER. WAIT, THERE'S MORE. ON APRIL 17TH OF 2021. WHAT IS THE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL LAND AREA SPLIT IF PARKING WAS SHARED? YES WE NEED THE SITE PLAN. THE PUY DE NEEDS TO BE A SINGLE PEUT TOE LIMIT BUFFER REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS A WORK AROUND BEING CREATED BY CITY STAFF IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET THE L P A IN THE CITY COMMISSION. TO APPROVE A PROJECT THAT AGAIN INDEPENDENTLY WOULD NEVER BE APPROVED, AND IT IS A WAY TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WORKS AROUND THE CITY LAND CODE. SO. THE 4 29 LPS AGENDA CITY STAFF PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA THAT WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE TO THE PUBLIC. TO EMAILS OF SUPPORT ONLY. WE WERE BOTH
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IN FAVOR OF COSTCO TO E MAILS. I KNOW I SAID AT LEAST SEVEN SO WE'RE MISSING SOME. MR REESE IS COMMENT TO MR FREEMAN, ANOTHER COMMENT FOR THE FILE. INTERESTINGLY I'VE BEEN RECEIVING EMAIL AND PHONE CALLS, MOSTLY AGAINST THE PROJECT SINCE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE HAS BEEN ADDED. SO IN THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE DID AS THE INTERVENER AND AS CONCERNED CITIZENS, WE LOOK THROUGH EVERY SINGLE EMAIL RELATED TO COSTCO. MISS BRUNER MADE A COMMENT AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING THAT SHE HAS BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF FAVORABLE EMAILS AND MOST OF WHAT SHE SEEN HAS ACTUALLY BEEN FOR COSTCO. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS LAST WEEK, BECAUSE WE DID NOT PULL THOSE REGARDING THE EMAILS TO CITY STAFFING COMMISSION, THE MAJORITY OF APPROVALS FOR COSTCO WERE SUBMITTED BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL BEING INCLUDED. WHY WERE NO EMAILS OF OBJECTION INCLUDED. THE L P A MADE A DECISION BASED ON THAT AGENDA. FURTHERMORE FOR THE RECORD, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MISS BRUNER RECRUITS HERSELF FROM TONIGHT'S VOTE AS WELL AS A FUTURE VOTE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. THERE'S AN APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. HIS BRUNER RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM MR JOHNSON ASKING IF ASKING ABOUT THE COSTCO, AND SHE ASKED HIM VERY SPECIFICALLY. ARE YOU STILL INVOLVED WITH THE PRO COSTCO FACEBOOK PAGE AND ASKED IF HE IS GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED TO WRITE EMAILS? THERE IS NO. BEING PRESENT WITH A CLEAR AND OPEN MIND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. FURTHERMORE, NO E MAILS SENT BY MISS BRUNER TO THOSE SAYING NO TO THE PROJECT, ASKING FOR THEIR FRIENDS TO SEND E MAILS TO HER FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. HERE ARE FOUR INSTANCES WHERE MISS BRUNER SAID VERY SPECIFICALLY. PLEASE HAVE YOUR FRIEND'S EMAIL ME AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE THIS LETTER SO MUCH. NOT ONE EMAIL RESPONSE AGAIN BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THEM. NOT ONE E MAILS, RESPONSE FROM HIS BRUNER SAYING TO ANYBODY WHO WAS SAYING NO TO THE PROJECT. PLEASE ALSO EMAIL THE COMMISSIONERS. FINALLY MR MACDONALD RECEIVED A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER AND SHOULD RECUSE HIMSELF FOR THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. MR. THIS IS MY PRIEST, COULD YOU.EXCUSE ME. THIS IS MY PRESENT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON NEWS PRESENTATION. IT IS FOR THE RECORD. I BELIEVE IT'S INDICATE RICHARDS PRESENTATION. THIS IS MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.
MR GARRETT OF LASI, ITO AND ASSOCIATES IS LISTED. HOLD ON. HOLD ON, MR MR RAINES. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR CHANCE. HE'S LET HER CONTINUE. PULLING THE DONATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY ALL OF THE SITTING CITY COMMISSION. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH RECEIVING A DONATION FROM ANYBODY. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. IF THE DEVELOPERS HAD PAID. CONTRIBUTION TO ALL OF YOUR CAMPAIGNS. HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT. MR MACDONALD WAS THE ONLY ONE TO RECEIVE A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION FROM KLOZA. SHEA DESIGNED AND LUCY DON'T ASSOCIATES. AS STEPHEN GARRETT OF LUCY DON'T ASSOCIATES IS LISTED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT RE ZONING APPLICATION AS THE AGENT IN PETITIONER. IT IS OUR THOUGHT AND REQUEST AND HOPE THAT MR MACDONALD WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE VOTE BECAUSE THERE IS AN APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. FROM MATTEL. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU RECEIVED THE REQUEST, I ASKED YOU TO, FOR AN OPINION, AND YOU PROVIDED IT TO ME. YES. WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVE IT? IS IT? I'M HAPPY TOO. I DON'T KNOW. GONNA WAIT TILL THE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. NOW. OKAY, UM. A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ARISES WHEN A COMMISSIONER HAS EITHER THEMSELVES A FAMILY MEMBER.
DIRECT RELATIVE OR AN EMPLOYER STANDS TO GAIN WHAT'S KNOWN AS A SPECIAL BENEFIT CAN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN DETERMINED HUNDREDS OF TIMES NOT TO CREATE A SPECIAL BENEFIT IN ANY WAY. AND AS A RESULT, IT WOULDN'T BUT SECONDLY. THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE SEA DOESN'T ASSOCIATE IS A HIRED CONSULTANT. AND IT WOULD BE LIKE YOU SUPPORTING LINDA KAYE RICHARDS AND THEREFORE NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THE PRESENTATION. IT SIMPLY ISN'T THE APP ISN'T THE DEVELOPER BUT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL THAT THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS.
REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONERS TO FILE A FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE AND IF, IN FACT ANY OF THE COMMISSIONER'S DOES, IN FACT, ONLY 10% INTEREST OR LARGER AND COSTCO, THEN YES, THEY HAVE A DUTY. TO REFRAIN FROM VOTING. MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT A DREAM COME TRUE. COMMISSIONER WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONFLICT TONIGHT. THIS IS A HARD VOTE. I AM SO ANY REASON TO STOP AND NOT HAVE TO VOTE WOULD BE BETTER. THE REALITY IS I TOLD HIM AND COMMISSIONER BRUNER. THAT THEY'RE OUT OF LUCK. THIS ACCUSATION ISN'T ENOUGH, AND THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE EVER REQUIRED BY LAW TO VOTE. WELL THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU COULD'VE STAIN THAT COULD NO, I CAN'T.
BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NOT HAVE STAIN. IS IT FAIR? MR MARTEL, PLEASE LET ME THINK I'M DEEPLY OFFENDED BY THIS BY THE WAY WELL, WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE IT HOW DO YOU
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THINK IT LOOKS TO US IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY. CREDIBLE MAY I ASK AK QUESTION, PLEASE? MR MARTELL MAY ASK THE QUESTION. PLEASE AM I ALLOWED TO ASK THE CITY COMMISSION IF THEY IF ANY OF THEM OWN STOCK AND COSTCO. I THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IF THEY DO, BUT WE CAN ASK, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE IT FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S ALL. MR MEYER. DO YOU OWN ANY STOCK IN COSTCO? DO NOT MISS CLARK. DO NOT THAT I DON'T THINK MY HUSBAND ON MY FAMILY THERE'S I DON'T HAVE A COSTCO CARD. I DON'T I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A COSTCO. JUST OKAY. MR MATHIS NGO AND HE'S TALKING COSTCO. DO NOT. BUT. I'M KIND OF HOPING MY FATHER STILL DOES. I KNOW HE HAS A TIMES AND. MR MACDONALD, DO YOU AGREE WITH MR MOORE TELL THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO GET ME OUT OF THIS. I'M JUST CURE IT. WE JUST WANT TO DOCUMENTED FOR THE RECORD. I HAVE NO STOCK AND COSTCO. I DO NOT KNOW IF ANY OF THE MUTUAL FUNDS. OKAY I HAVE NOISE. BRENNER, DO YOU WANT ANY STOCK IN COSTCO? THANK YOU TO BE CLEAR, MR MARTEL. THIS SPECIAL INTEREST WOULD BE LARGER OR 10% OR MORE OF THE COMPANY. YEAH, GOOD. YOU KNOW, I DOUBT YOU'D BE HERE. BUT WHATEVER. IF HE DID, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW AGREE. WELL. WHICH I AM FINISHED WITH MY PURSE AGAIN. ACROSS. OKAY. OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA CROSS MS. ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU. MISS CARTWRIGHT S. SO YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN. YES. WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPATION? I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS FOR THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION. MARTIN SEE LUCY. AND WHAT IS YOUR ROLE HERE THIS EVENING? MY ROLE HERE IS TO PRESERVE MY COMMUNITY IN THE TOWN IN WHICH I GREW UP. BUT ARE YOU ARE YOU? ARE YOU CALLING YOURSELF AN EXPERT IN ANY CAPACITY HERE? I'M CALLING MYSELF A CONCERNED CITIZEN. OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT. YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T HOLD A LICENSE IN ANY FIELD OF PLANNING. NO. LICENSE IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. NO ENGINEERING, NO CIVIL ENGINEER. NO. AFRICA. NO HAVE YOU EVER SUBMITTED ANY APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN A PART OF ANY APPLICATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IN CITY OF STUART. NO I HAVE NOT. YOU'VE NEVER DESIGNED ANY PROJECTS. NO. OKAY, SO YOU'RE CONCEDE. YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT. I CONCEDE THAT I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. I ASKED YOU IF YOU CONCEDE THAT YOU'RE NOT. WHAT THE PUBLIC PLEASE WHAT THE PUBLIC. PLEASE BE QUIET UNTIL THANK YOU. PLEASE DO NOT ENGAGE THAT. OFFICER COULD YOU PLEASE ATTEND TO THE PERSON WHO'S DISTURBING THE MEDIAN? I'M JUST GONNA GET ASKED YOU. I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE ASKED. HOWEVER THAT'S NO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DIMINISH MY DIMINISHING, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY.
NO I AM NOT DIMINISHING. DO IT'S YOU ARE MAKING CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS AND YOU'RE PRESENTING EVIDENCE UP. HERE I AM OR YOU'RE TRYING TO PRESENT EVIDENCE? NO I DID PRESENT EVIDENCE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT. OKAY, AND THAT'S WHAT'S SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AT. SO I'M NOT TRYING. LISTEN, I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH ANYTHING. YOU ALL INTERVENE. THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING I REALLY WANT TO DO OR BE HERE PART OF TONIGHT. BUT I HAVE TO GO AND PUT ON THE RECORD WHAT YOUR ROLE IS, SO IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH YOU ON TRYING. NO, I AM TRYING TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS, OKAY? NOW LET'S GO BACK TO SOME SLIDES, PLEASE. IF YOU WOULD, THE REMOTE IS WITH YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO HERE, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT A LITTLE.
TECHNICAL AND WAY BEYOND MY. GO BACK. ONE SLIDE, TOM AND WE COULD STOP RIGHT THERE. LET'S GO BACK TO THAT ONE FOR A SEC. STATED THAT THE DEVELOPER. MADE A CONTRIBUTION. IS THAT CORRECT? I DID. YOU SEE THE DEVELOPERS NAME UP THERE? EMINEM? REALITY I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE RESTATED THAT THAT SOMEBODY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT THIS EVENING MADE A DONATION AND IS H J, A DESIGN INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT. NO, IT WAS JUST TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND THAT THEY DID NOT GIVE TO THE GOVERNORSHIP IS HJ DESIGNER DEVELOPER I'M SORRY. I'M PROUD. I'M NOT AN EXPERT, SO I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT TERM.
OKAY BUT BUT I'M JUST THAT, BUT I'M ASKING YOU THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HEAR. SORRY THEY'RE PART OF THE LAND PLANNING CONSULTATION GROUPS THAT ARE UTILIZED BY DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA TO CREATE PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU STATED IN YOUR TESTIMONY. THAT DEVELOPER MADE A CONTRIBUTION, AND THAT WAS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. CORRECT.
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MR MARINO DID NOT MAKE A CONTRIBUTION THAT IS CORRECT. YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS ONE? THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS THEIR THOSE WHO JUST NEED MALES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO. THESE ARE ALL E MAILS. HE'S ALL HAVE TO DO WITH IT, OKAY? GOOD. BOY. DON'T WORRY HIM ELSE. RIGHT? OKAY? THIS IS THE DENSITY AND LANDES QUESTION THAT YOU PRESENTED. AGAIN IF YOU CAN READ TABLE THREE B. WHAT DOES THAT SAY IT HEADING? EXCELLENT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE FOR BEAUTY. OKAY AND THEN DOWN BELOW. IT'S GOT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOODS. SPECIAL DISTRICT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THEN WHAT DOES IT SAY? UNDER C P D. OUTSIDE THE SIERRA? 15, AND THAT MEANS WHAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY? YOU'RE REFERENCING 23 30 TO 2017 HERE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND PULL THAT UP. YEAH. 24 LITTLE 1 2019. YES. GET. SECTION HERE. OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY CHANGED BROSE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR AN RPG CORRECT CORRECT. SO IF I MAY KNOW RIGHT? I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY, BEFORE HANDED OVER. WE'RE GOOD THERE. THE NEXT SIDE.OKAY? THE SECOND. THIS IS THE COUNTY LANDES. RIGHT, CORRECT, OKAY. UM IS NOT A CITY LADIES.
THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, LOOK, SLIDE, PLEASE. SEE HERE ON THIS ONE. THIS IS YOUR EXERTING FROM THE MAKING AN EXCERPT FROM. ANNEXATION REQUEST. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND I SEE YOU BOXED IN. IN THE MEANTIME, MARTIN COUNTY LAND USE ZONING REMAINS IN EFFECT.
REVIS SYMPTOMS BEFORE THAT, THAT YOU DID NOT BOX HIM. SCHEDULE OF DEVELOPING.
PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF MENUS AND DESIGNATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE APPLIED FOR IT A LATER DATE. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU. NEXT LIFE. MATTERS. MARTIN COUNTY GRANDEST RESIGNATION. CORRECT THAT WAS THE CURRENTLY IN USE WHEN IT WAS THEIR INITIALLY APPLIED FOR BY MIMI AND BY WILLOUGHBY.
CORRECT. BEGINNING OF IT. MISS RICHARDS BEFORE HE HANDED OVER. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE.
THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS IN HERE IS THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF LAYPEOPLE WORKING ARE BEST TO PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE SHE'S SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC TO THINK THE COMMISSION. I'M SORRY. WE ARE A GROUP OF LAYPEOPLE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE STAFF. OR TO CALL EXPERTS ON SOME THINGS. SO WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO LOOK AT THESE ITEMS, AND WE'RE REFERENCING WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US ON THE WEBSITE. WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY. WHAT IS THE MOST CORRECT? GIVE US A VISIT. PART, RIGHT? IS THIS. MISS RICHARDS WAS UP IN MISS CARTWRIGHT WAS HER, UM. WITNESS OF THE CHILD. IS THERE ANY OTHER WITNESS? IT WAS JUST LIKE TO THE RIGHT CROSS. OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE FOR THE RECORD REFLECT, MISS CARTWRIGHT. I'M STILL AGAIN. NOT QUITE SURE WHAT HER ROLE IS IN THIS BECAUSE SHE SHE'S NOT THE INTERVENER. SHE WASN'T AN EXPERT WITNESS IN ANY FORM, AND I WOULD OBJECT TO HER TESTIMONY. DULY NOTED. THANK YOU, MISS MISS, PLEASE CONTINUOUS MISS THAT GUY. RICHARDS. ALREADY. SORRY. MY GLASSES FOGGED UP WITH MY IT'S
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GONE. OKAY, SO I'M GONNA GO QUICKLY THROUGH SOME OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID MILLIONS OF TIME AND WE KNOW THAT THIS INFORMATION IS HERE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE APPLICATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN WITH THIS, UM THIS ITEM. IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. IT IS ASKING FOR A PROPOSED LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL WITH A SITE ACREAGE OF 23.29 POINT THREE ACRES. IT DOES NOT MATCH WHAT IS ACTUALLY HERE. SO THIS IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY. UM PUT IN THE APPLICATION TO THE APPLICATION THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PUT IS NOT EVEN CURRENT. LET'S GO THROUGH THESE. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ALL ABOUT THIS.AGAIN THIS ISN'T ABOUT PARK PROPERTY RIGHTS. THE CURRENT LAND OWNERS KNEW WHEN THEY PURCHASED THIS LAND THAT THE LAND HAD A LOW DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE WHILE IT WAS IN IN THE COUNTY. JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ANNEXED. IT'S STILL THE PIECE OF SAME PIECE OF LAND. STUART IS STILL PART OF MARTIN COUNTY AND TWO TOTALLY NOT GIVE ANY. DO NOT LOOK AT WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF MARTIN COUNTY HAD DESIGNATED THIS LAND FOR YEARS AND DECADES DECADES.
I REMEMBER DECADES I'M 48 YEARS OLD BEFORE MY TIME IT HAS BEEN A FUTURE LAND USE OF LOW. LOW DENSITY FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. IT'S STILL THE SAME PIECE OF LAND. AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAXIMIZE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT JUST BECAUSE THE LANDOWNERS NEED SO MUCH MONEY FOR THEIR LAND TO MAKE UP REPORT. INCISIONS DOES NOT MEAN THE CITY HAS TO GIVE THEM THIS DESIGNATION AS IT HAS BEEN STATED BEFORE. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS DESIGNATION, AND YOU CAN SAY NO. UM. YES, THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT USED TO SAY CONSERVATION, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET OUR APPLET UPDATED SLIDES WHERE WE REALIZED THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS INCORRECT. OKAY, SO NOW I'M GOING TO START TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND THERE IS SOME ROOM FROM AN INTERPRETATION HERE JUST BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER SAYS THIS MEETS WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT IS. AND HONESTLY, JUST BECAUSE THE STAFF SAYS THAT THEY THINK THAT IT DOES. IT'S ACTUALLY UP TO THE FIVE OF YOU TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF IF THIS ACTUALLY FITS INTO WHAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES. SO GOLD STATEMENT. ONE F SAYS THE FUTURE LAND USE GOLD FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT CATEGORY IS TO PROMOTE INFIELD INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT. ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. LESSEN THE NEED FOR VEHICULAR TRIPS, DETER URBAN SPRAWL AND ENCOURAGED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. ON LEE THING.
THIS PROJECT CHECKS OFF. IS IT ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. THIS SITE WAS ANNEXED. YOU CANNOT CALL IT AS IN FILM. IT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED. THIS IS NOT A REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT. DOES NOT CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD. GATED COMMUNITY OF APARTMENTS, RENTAL APARTMENTS AND A BIG BOX WAREHOUSE STORE. DO NOT MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS FOR THE OTHER COMMERCIAL AND RESTAURANTS, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE. IT'S A STRIP MALL, AND IT'S A COUPLE PADS OF CONCRETE. THEY'RE ASKING TO PUT OUT THERE. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS THE APARTMENTS. BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE A BIG BOX STORE AND WE HAVE APARTMENTS. HURT THE TARGET CUSTOMER AT COSTCO IS NOT AN APARTMENT DWELLER. IT IS A HIGH INCOME MEDIUM TO HIGH INCOME, LARGE FAMILY HOME. AND ALSO THIS LANDESMAN ANNEXED, SO IN MY MIND, THAT'S URBAN SPRAWL. SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE ON WITH THE POLICY OF 1.2, AND THIS IS WHERE IT SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THING WHERE DIFFERENT USES ARE EXPECTED TO BENEFIT FROM THE CLOSE IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY OF COMPLIMENTARY USES. SO RIGHT THERE, IT'S ANOTHER POINT. THAT SAYS BIG BACK STORE AND THE APARTMENTS ARE NOT COMPLIMENTARY USES. WE CAN SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN COSTCO, WE'RE GOING TO RENT THESE APARTMENTS. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO SHOP. IT COST GOING AGAIN. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE OTHER. RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OR BASICALLY, PADS OF CONCRETE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING OUT ARE GOING TO BE. AND ALSO POLICY UP ONE AT 1.4
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SAYS LARGE EXPANSES OF PARKING AREA OR DISCOURAGED. THIS IS ONE MASSIVE PARKING LOT. NOW I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DESIGNATION OF WHAT A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS SO PUD IS NOT TYPICAL. IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY, FLEXIBILITY MEANS DEVIATION. ASK THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE. SOMETHING TO US.THEY'RE GONNA BRIDE A VARIETY OF NATURAL FEATURES AND SCENIC AREAS EFFICIENT AND ECONOMIC LAND NEWS. IMPROVED AMENITIES ORDERLY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE PROTECTION OF ADJACENT EXISTING AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. A TYPICAL PUD INCLUDE STRUCTURES THAT ARE RELATED TO THE CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, AND TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF WHICH IT IS PART OF. SO A P A PILOT IS USED IN HANSON'S SITE NOT TO AVOID ZONING REQUIREMENTS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU LOOK WHERE IT IS ON IN THE CITY. IT DOES NOT MEET WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF WHICH IT IS PART. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NO ONE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPERT FOR BECAUSE I AM NOT AN EXPERT. BUT I DR CANTER HIGHWAY EVERY DAY BECAUSE I CAN'T LEAVE MY HOUSE WITHOUT DOING THAT, AND I CAN'T GO TO WORK WITHOUT DOING IT. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT. ANYWHERE NEARER.
BETWEEN INDIAN AND CANNER. OR EVEN IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SLUR NO AND INTO TOWN. HMM.
JUST MEETING ADJOURNED. FINE INTERVENTION. NOW THIS KILLING JOE, WHAT HAPPENED? MR. THERE IT IS. YES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DENSITY AND I GET IT. THERE'S GROSS DENSITY. THERE'S NET DENSITY. THE COP PLAN GOT CHANGED IN 2019 TO CHANGE IT FROM NET TOO GROSS, AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT REALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST PLAYING WITH NUMBERS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THIS CPU D IS THEY'RE ABLE TO AVOID THE RULES FOR DENT DENSITY. YES, THE RULES SAY IN A CPU D THAT THEY COULD HAVE USE GROSS DENSITY. HOWEVER IF IT HAD BEEN AN R P UT LIKE IT WAS BEFORE, IT WOULD ONLY BE USING THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF IT AND THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THIS TYPE OF DENSITY. I THINK IT'S QUITE UNFAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS EIGHT UNITS WHEN YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. AH HUGE CONCRETE PARKING LOT AND A HUGE CONCRETE BUILDING. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS LOOK AT THIS IS 27 UNITS PER ACRE. OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVE. HIS NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY. ESTABLISHED BY THE REGISTER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM THE INTRUSION OF COMPETING INTENSE IS USES TO THE HEARINGS OF THE FUTURE LAND. USE MATH. IN CITIES AND INTENSITIES ESTABLISHED IN THE FUTURE. LAND USE ELEMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN CONTROL OF TRAFFIC AND ACCESS FOR THE PROTECTION OF ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL USES.
ON THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE OF CANNER. FROM THE INTERSECTION OF MONTEREY. TO THE INTERSECTION ON INDIAN. ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. RESIDENTS OF DAILY BAHIA AND THE RESIDENTS OF COMMAND A POINT. HAVE ISSUED A PETITION WHICH HAS BEEN INTERRED IN TOW IN INTERNET WITH MARY. MISS KENDALL, THE CLERK. THESE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE ON THIS PART OF CANADA HIGHWAY THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE IS IN THERE. THAT FUTURE LAND USE OF THAT LAND WAS LOW DENSITY WHEN THEY BOUGHT INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT A MONSTROSITY LIKE THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR U TURN IN FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC AS THEY PULL OUT THEY CAN ON LEE MAKE WRITES OUT OF THEIR OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, GET ACROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC AND DO A U TURN SO THAT WE CAN HEAD BACK INTO SET BACK INTO TOWN. IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FIVE OF YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY BETWEEN MONTERREY AND CANNER. AND THEN WE CAN EVEN EXPAND PAST. I'M SORRY BETWEEN MONTERREY IN INDIAN, EVEN UNIX EXPAND PASSED ON BOTH SIDES OF THEIR IT'S RESIDENTIAL THROUGHOUT THAT AREA. POLICY A 63 BE FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT REDUCES
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VEHICULAR CHIP SHALL BE COMPATIBLE IN SIZE STYLE ARCHITECTURE AND MATERIALS TO SURROUND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THIS IS JUST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO REDUCE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC? UM. A BIG BOX STORE IS NOT GOING TO REDUCE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. PEOPLE DON'T TAKE THE BUS TO SHOP THERE. PEOPLE DON'T RIDE THEIR BIKES TO SHOP THERE, AND PEOPLE DON'T WALK TO SHOP THERE. UM. HERE'S ONE THAT'S DETERMINED BY YOU. THIS ISN'T DETERMINED BY STAFF. IT'S NOT DETERMINED BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY SAY, THEY SAY IT FITS. UM. INVITING SUCH USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH USES ON ADJACENT PROPERTY AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OR HIGH SCHOOL.SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AGRICULTURE THAT ALSO HAS TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON IT THAT PAY SINGLE FAMILY HOME TAXES, SO THERE ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE NURSE SHE PROPERTY. AND THEN LET'S JUMP ACROSS THE STREET AND WE SEE RESIDENTIAL. WE SEE A YACHT BROKER. WE SEE A COTTAGE LITTLE COTTAGE DEVELOPMENT AND WE SEE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL. LOW DENSITY. MOSTLY HOMEOWNERS, RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING THERE'S MY LITTLE POINTER. THE. RESIDENTIAL ALONG HERE. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ALL THIS. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE. UM. HELL LOOK AT ALL THE WETLANDS THAT THEY WORKED AROUND WHEN THEY BUILT THIS LOW INCOME OR I'M SORRY, AFFORDABLE ARE ATTAINABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE. UM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY ONLY DISTURBED ONE SMALL PART OF THEIR WETLANDS TO DEVELOP. DEVELOP TO DEVELOP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IN THIS ONE GOING TO CONCRETE IT OVER ALL OF IT. SO THE CHARACTERISTIC CANDOR BETWEEN MONTERREY AND INDIAN STREET. UM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. BUT I DO JUST WANT TO GIVE A COUPLE NUMBERS BECAUSE I HAD A PROFESSIONAL GEOGRAPHER REACH OUT TO ME. AND HE DID IT. HE DID A ONE MILE SEARCH. MM. I DON'T THINK THAT, SIR, SIR.
OKAY? MR RAINES, MISS. MAY I CONTINUE? YOU CAN CONTINUE. MR MORTAL WOULD. NOTHING JUST THAT THE HERE CEREALS OR NOT. THE RULES OF EVIDENCE AREN'T BINDING, BUT SHE'S GETTING READY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND FAILING TO PROVIDE DUE PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO CROSS EXAMINE THIS WITNESS IN WHICH THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO RELY ON THEIR TESTIMONY.
WOULD YOU ALLOW TO BE? WOULD YOU ALLOW TO BE CROSS COLUMN IS THE WITNESS PROCEDURE? HELEN LOOK, PLEASE WAIT. SIR. LET MISS MET MISS SONG. RICHARDS. CONTINUE THAT IS IT? MISS RICHARDS, MAY I CONTINUE WITH THE STATUS, OKAY. UM SO WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS AND ACTUALLY DID YOU RULE THAT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO CALL THE WITNESS? NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
WHERE SHE CAN I CONTINUE WITH THE DATA DATA IS FROM THE WITNESS. YES. THEN FROM THE WITNESS. YES. WELL, THEN YOU MAY HAVE TO CALL THE WITNESSES OF FIRSTHAND EVIDENCE SPEND THAT'S THE BEST EVIDENCE. SHOULD SHE CALL HIM NOW AND JUST GET THIS? YOU CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS, BECAUSE JUST REVIEW ALTHOUGH WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE TO QUALIFY. THAT PERSON'S AN EXPERT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE RELIABLE EXPERT. ARE YOU WILLING TOL SQUARE IN OFF? IN TIME. I LIKE TO CALL. I'M NOT FINISHED YET, DID YOU THEN I WILL. I WILL CALL ROBBINS FINISHED. MR RAINES GETS TO ASK HER QUESTIONS. THEN SHE CAN CALL HIM IF HER NEXT WITNESS. YES I'M SORRY. YES, WELL INDICATE RICHARD. GUYS NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AT LEAST FOLLOW SOME BASIC PROCEDURES SO WE CAN DO THIS SMOOTHLY WITHOUT YES, MA'AM, AND I WILL TRY NOT TO TAKE UP FOUR HOURS LIKE THE APPLICANT ID. OKAY, OKAY, JUST OKAY, SO I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT WE WILL. SO ANYWAYS, THESE AIR THE CHARACTERISTICS BETWEEN CANADA AND MONTEREY AGAIN. I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE THAT A BIG BOX STORE AND A 400 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH I'M GONNA ROUND UP BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THE NUMBER 3 96 3 98. WHATEVER LET'S JUST SAY WHAT IT IS 400 UNTIL THEY TAKE THE 5% OFF. UM.
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SO HERE WE GO. RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL USES. THIS IS PART OF THAT LAND VELMA CODE FOR THE CPD THAT THE RESIDENTIAL USES SHOULD BE DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL USES. AGAIN AS I STATED THEY DO NOT MASH. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE DIFFERENT MATH. AND YOU GUYS, I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT YOU HERE BECAUSE I KNOW I'M NOT AN EXPERT, SO I'M JUST GONNA SKIP THIS SLIDE. I'M I'M FULLY AWARE THAT MR RAINES IS GOING TO TEAR APART MY ENTIRE TESTIMONY. THE CPU NIKKI STANDARDS OF 2.700. IN THE EVENT THAT LESS THAN 25% OF THE CPD IS COMPRISED OF NATIVE VEGETATION AREA THAN ALL EXISTING NATIVE VEGETARIAN AREAS SHALL BE MAINTAINED AS PART OF THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE. THERE IS NATIVE VEGETATION AREAS OF PINE FOREST. THAT THEY ARE NOT KEEPING. AND I DO BELIEVE THE WORD THERE IS SHELL. TREE MEDICATION CREDIT. THEY SEE. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET TO SEE THEIR PRESENTATION. SO THIS IS STILL IN HERE. THEY OBVIOUSLY PULLED BACK ON THAT ONE. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AGAIN. YOU CAN LOOK AND YOU SEE A MULTIPLE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY WETLANDS THERE ARE. AND AS WE LEARNED TODAY, THERE'S THE WETLAND NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH WAS NEWS TO ME AS WELL. UM IMPACTS TO WETLANDS AND OTHER SURFACE WATERS COULD NOT BE REDUCED OR ELIMINATED IN ANY CEREN SCENARIO DUE TO THE LARGE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE STYLE RETAIL STORE AND FUELING STATION. THAT IS THE REASON THEY CAN'T KEEP ANY WETLANDS. JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD THIS BIG RETAIL FACILITY AND THE WETLANDS ARE GONNA GET IN THE WAY. YEAH. BLAND PINE, FLAT WOODS AND SCRUB PINE FORESTS ARE BEING DESTROYED THIS AIR, NATIVE NATIVE AREAS AND IF YOU READ THE ENVIRONMENT MENTAL REPORT, THEY ARE NOT DEGRADATION. WILDLIFE IS GOING TO BE DISPLACED, AND WE KNOW THIS AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T GOING TO FOLLOW INTO ANY POLICY OR PROCEDURE, BUT GOODS. THERE'S A LIST OF THE BIRDS THAT HAVE BEEN COUNTED. THEY'RE MAMMALS, BOBCAT, SQUIRRELS, RACCOONS, POSSUMS, SNAKES, SOFTSHELL TURTLE, THE ALLIGATORS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THREATENED SPECIES? THE GOFER TURTLES. THEY ARE THERE.THEY'VE BEEN DOCUMENTED. THEY'RE ALL THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE HIM. WE REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. TRAFFIC IMPACT. WE'VE HEARD THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. I'M NOT A TRAFFIC EXPERT. YOU GO AHEAD AND NOT ASK ME THAT QUESTION. I'M NOT TRAFFIC EXPERT. BUT I DO KNOW THAT A DESTINATION WHOLESALE STEP WHOLESALE STORE WILL ATTRACT CUSTOMERS FROM BUREAU TO JUPITER. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN MARTIN COUNTY, AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT WAS 13% COME FROM MARTIN COUNTY. SO THAT WOULD MAKE UM LET ME 12% SO 88% OF THE PEOPLE SHOPPING AT COSTCO WOULD BE COMING FROM OUT OF COUNTY. GONNA BE COMING FROM PORT ST LUCIE. THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING THROUGH CITRUS BOWL OF OUR THEY'RE BECOMING DOWN, BECKER. THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING DOWN. 7 14, THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING OVER OUR TWO BRIDGES AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT. IS GOING TO BE SEVERE. THERE'S 212 UNITS APPROVED AT THE CORNER OF INDIAN IN CANADA. THERE'S 172 UNITS, IT'S CENTRAL PARKWAY. ON AND I DID ASK THIS QUESTION AND I'LL TAKE IT BACK IF THEY DID SAY THAT. THEY LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC IN 2019, WHICH WAS PRE COVERT. UM, THE NEW CONNECTOR ROAD. IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE EXPANSION OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO TO THE INTERSECTION OF WILLOUGHBY IN MONTEREY? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CUT THE CORNER AND THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED GREATLY. YOU KNOW, HIGHWAYS THE NEXT ON EVACUATION ROUND. MARIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IS A HURRICANE SHELTER SHELTER. I ASKED. DID THEY DO ANY STUDIES ON WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN A HURRICANE EMERGENCY? THE FUELING STATION. ON ARCANDOR HIGHWAY. THAT'S AN EVACUATION ROUND. THAT'S NEXT TO HURRICANE SHUTTER SHELTER. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT. BUT I'VE SEEN WHAT COSTCO GAS STATIONS LOOK LIKE WHEN A HURRICANE IS APPROACHING FLORIDA AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO. I'VE GOT STUDENTS WHO WALK BIKE DRIVE TO AND FROM SCHOOL. ON BOTH SIDES CANNOT HIGHWAY AND WILL IT BE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A CONNECTOR ROAD BETWEEN IS GOING TO INCREASE THE. EXPOSURE THESE KIDS GET TO WALK TO WALK INTO SCHOOL AND WRITING THEIR BOAT BIKES TO SCHOOL. I DO APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN ALL THE CROSSINGS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. BUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE FACE IS THAT DRIVERS HERE DO
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NOT LOOK FOR PEDESTRIANS WHEN THEY'RE MAKING. RIGHT HAND TURNS INTO SHOPPING CENTERS, DEVELOPMENTS IN ALL THAT, EVEN IF A CROSSWALK SAYS A KID CAN WALK FORWARD, THEY CAN MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN ON THE RED. WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL PROBLEM WITH OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN WALKING AND RIDING THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL. UM THEY ADDRESS THE NON DECELERATION LANE TO THE SOUTH BOUND ENTRANCES BECAUSE THAT WAS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE ON THAT WAS WHAT WE STATED THAT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT DIESEL LANE THAT WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE LOSING THE ONE OF THE LANES IN ON CAMERA HIGHWAY, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PUT A DIESEL IN THERE IF THEY GET APPROVED. YOU GUYS KNOW THIS FOR ME? DO WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS? HOW MANY APARTMENTS DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? UM WE CAN'T HANG ON TO THE HOPE THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS DON'T HAPPEN. WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING OUR POPULATION ABOVE THE 2035 REPORT. 2035 2035. WE'RE GOING TO BE EXCEEDING THE POPULATION ESTIMATE OF 2035 BY 2025 WITH THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. CAN WE REALLY HAVE 400 MORE APARTMENTS? I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN THIS. I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CONCEPTUAL PERMIT. I STILL NOT QUITE SURE WHY THEY HAD A CONCEPTUAL GOVERNMENT BEFORE AND NOW THEY DON'T NEED A CONCEPTUAL PERMIT. BUT I WILL.I WILL TRUST THAT THAT IS TRUE. HERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE L P A. AT THE OPEN A. THE OPA MEMBERS ASKED FOR A SCHOOL CONCURRENCY REPORT. OF THE DEVELOPER AND THE STAFF SAID. OH, NO, YOU DON'T NEED A SCHOOL CONCERN. CONCURRENCY REPORT FOR A MASTER SITE PLAN. YOU JUST NEED IT FOR THE FINAL SITE PLAN. AND THAT WAS THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION. HOWEVER BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WAS FULLY AWARE THAT WITH THE L PAID BA COULD HAVE ASKED FOR WAS IT GENERAL SCHOOL CAPACITY ANALYSIS. AND THAT WAS DONE, AND IT WAS DATED ON FEBRUARY 12 2021. THAT PIECE OF EVIDENCE WAS NOT OFFERED UP TO THE O P A. AND IN THAT ANALYSIS, IT STATES. THE ANALYSIS TODAY INDICATES THAT CURRENTLY BE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS SHOW AVAILABLE CUP CAPACITY WITHIN THE THREE YEAR TIMEFRAME. AT MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL ON LEE. MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL. ONLY. SO WHERE ARE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS GOING? WHERE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS GOING. THERE'S THE SCHOOL CAPACITY REPORT. HE DIDN'T BELIEVE. SO IN SUMMARY CANNER, COSTCO, PUY DE IS IN VIOLATION OF BOTH SPECIFIC LAWRENCE'S AND VIOLATION OF THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL P U D REQUIREMENTS. CANTOR COST APPEARED. HE SEEMS TO BE TRANSPARENT ATTEMPT NOT TO ENHANCE THE AREA BUT TO TRY TO PUT AS MUCH ONTO THIS 50 ACRES AS THEY POSSIBLY YEAH. AVOID THE NORMAL ZONE. ONE MORE RESTRICTIONS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A P D. UM. SO THIS SUBMITTED HOUSING WILL ON LEI INCREASE THE POPULATION BY HALF A PERCENT. NOT A SINGLE OPPORTUNITY TO THE CITY OF STUART. EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS THE ROAD, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT SEEMS TO BE A GRATUITY. NOT A SINGLE SQUARE FOOT OF RECREATIONAL LAND. UM I GUESS CLAIMING A WALKWAY BY A RETENTION POND IS CONSIDERED AMENITY. BUT THE AMENITIES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE FOR A MEMBERSHIP BASED BOX STORE. MEMBERSHIP BASED AND A GATED APARTMENT COMMUNITY. BUT YOU MUST LIVE IN TOW HAVE THE AMENITIES. BEAUTY IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GIVE TO THE DEVELOPERS AND IT IS UP TO THEM TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING.
THAT MAKES OUR CITY BETTER. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE. UM SO THIS RIGHT HERE. WITH THAT. I'M SURE I CAN TELL YOU. I'M NOT AN EXPERT. WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO BACK TO YOUR SUMMARY SLIDE.
IF YOU WOULD START THERE, PLEASE. SURE. SO. FOR THE RECORD. YOU CONCEDE? YOU'RE NOT
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AN EXPERT. THINNING LAND PLANNING. YES, SIR. TRAFFIC? NO, SIR. ENGINEERING. YES, SIR.YOU ARE IN ENGINEERING. SCHOOLING WHAT SCHOOL YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING. YES, SIR. AND YOU HAVE A LICENSE TO PRACTICE? YES. ENGINEERING, OKAY. YOU.
YOU HAVE A LICENSE IN THE FIELD LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. LITTLE TRAFFIC. DON'T HAVE A LICENSE AND LANCER GUY ARCHITECT NOW. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER TRAFFIC? NEVER TRAFFIC? YES. YEAH, OKAY.
SO IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT MOST OF THE. STUFF THAT YOU PRESENTED IT TO NUTS. TODAY IS YOUR OPINION IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH? NO. WELL, LET'S LET'S RUN THROUGH IT AND THEN SAY OK.
SO. RECIPES LET'S TALK ABOUT NOTE THE THIRD NOTE DOWN. STATE THAT NOTE ALSO THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS MIDDLE HOUSING WILL INCREASE THE POPULATION OF STUART BY HALF A PERCENT, A VERY LARGE NUMBER. IS NOT HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT HALF A PERCENT. IT'S THE FORMULA WELL, WE TWO POINTS FOR UNIT TWO PORK. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A PERCENTAGE THAT MULTIPLIED OUT IN PERCENTAGE BY THE POPULATION OF STUART, WHICH IS CURRENTLY 19,100 PEOPLE. LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SO. I WANT TO BE SURE YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT, ECONOMIST OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M NOT AN EXPERT. I HAVE MY MBA AND I HAVE AN ENGINEERING DEGREE. AND I AM A FARMER. I WANNA EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE. NO, IT'S FINE THAT PEOPLE INTERVENE AND STUFF AND THAT THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO PUT ON TESTIMONY. HOPE. THERE'S NOTHING AGAIN PERSON. MOTHER. DO YOU KNOW WHERE GIVE HER A CHANCE. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE REASON I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AND YOUR UNDERSTAND WHY, WHEN I ASKED THIS QUESTION. SO YOU DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE FORMULA THAT I THINK YOU SENT TO ME. THERE'S JUST SAID TO ME. FOR INSTANCE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF STUART. DOWNSIZING WHO SELLS SELLS THEIR HOUSE AND DECIDES TO MOVE INTO A RENTAL APARTMENT. POSSUM. SO THIS IS THIS IS BUT THIS IS HOLD ON A SECOND. THIS IS NEW HOUSING.
THIS IS NOT REPLACEMENT HEALTHY. THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAY THERE BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUY THEIR HOUSE. WAIT A SECOND WELL, AND SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN STUART MADE BY THEIR HOUSE. THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE ITS USE YOU STATE THAT YOU WILL INCREASE THE POPULATION.
HALF A PERCENT. THAT IS YOUR OPINION, AND IT'S BASED ON A FORMULA THAT THERE'S NO BASIS FOR THE FORMULA. YOU DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF STUART WILL RELOCATE. POSSIBLE OR NOT, THAT IS COMPLETELY POSSIBLE. IS THAT IN YOUR FORMULA FOR DETERMINING A HALF A PERCENT. YES. HOW IS IT IN YOUR FORMULA? HOW DOES THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF STUART INCREASE IF PERSON, EH? GOES FROM ONE HOUSE IN THE CITY OF STUART TO ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE CITY OF STUART. HOW DOES THAT INCREASE THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF STUART? I AM GOING TO SEE OH, HE'S GONNA MISS HER. MR HE WILL BE. HE'S OUR NEXT.
HE'S GONNA HAVE OUR NEXT TESTIMONY AND S, SO I ACTUALLY HUH? YEAH. MR. MR K. UH THAT'S WASHING CALL TO MR KAY. WHO WILL BE MY NEXT WITNESS THAT I COULD ALMOST I KNOW, PRESENTED THE TESTIMONY. I DID, AND I GOT THE INFORMATION AND I FOLLOWED THE INFORMATION. FROM MR K. SO YOU HAVE NO. NO REASON TO BE PRESENTING THIS EVIDENCE. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE FORMULA WAS DONE BECAUSE MR CAME, UH, SURE. OKAY. CARRIE. NEXT. LET'S GO BACK. I THINK I MIGHT BE DEAD VIDEOS ALONG.
OR LET'S GO BACK TO TRAFFICKERS. SO YOU SAID. I THINK DURING THIS PART OF YOUR
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SLIDE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND IF I AM I'M SURE YOU'LL CORRECT ME. SO YOU SAY HERE, DESTINATION HOLD. STILL, TRAFFIC WILL TRACK CUSTOMERS FROM VERO BEACH TO JUPITER AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE. THAT IS INFORMATION THAT I GOT FROM READING A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT COSTCO'S AND COSTCO'S DEVELOPMENTS AND LOOKING AT WHERE OTHER LOCATIONS HAVE COST. THOSE ARE AND THE RADIUS IS BY WHICH THEY. COMFORT AND SO AND I THINK THIS WAS THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SAID 13% OR 12% WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS FOR THE CITY OF STUART OR FOR MARTIN COUNTY, MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS AIR GO 88% OF GOING TO COME FROM OUTSIDE.YES, SIR. OKAY. AND YOU BASE THAT ON WHAT AGAIN? SO IF COSTCO IF COSTCO PICKS UP ANOTHER 5000 MEMBERS IN MARTIN COUNTY. IS THAT NOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE 88% FROM OUTSIDE OF IT THAT GO DOWN? NO ACTUALLY, THE WHOLE NUMBER GOES UP IN THE PERCENTAGES STAY THE SAME. IT'S A PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IF THAT'S IF IT'S A CASE, BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THE DESTINATION WHOLESALE TRACK YOU HAVE NO SPECIFIC EVIDENCE TO PRESENT TO US TONIGHT OF THAT. MY EVIDENCE. I'M SURE THAT WILL BE SOMETHING. BUT THE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. THAT'S WELL. THE PERCENTAGE CAME FROM YOUR TESTIMONY THAT 12% WOULD BECOME FROM MARTIN COUNTY. THAT WAS 12,000 MEMBERS. 12% 12% OF RESIDENTS. I HEARD THAT 12% OF COSTCO. 12% OF RESIDENTS. YES S 0 88% WOULD NOT BE RESIDENTS. IF MY MATH IS CORRECTLY, WHICH I'M ENGINEER OF COURSE. MATHIS BACKER FORWARD YOUR ASSUMPTION BACKER FOR ONE OF YOUR GOING BACK. AND I JUST COULD MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT. CORRECT? NO. NEXT, PLEASE. THE PUBLIC. PLEASE JUST BE QUIET SOMETHING HERE. THE YES, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. YEAH. OKAY, JUST STOP THERE FOR A SECOND.
RESIDENT PRODUCES, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE, TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL. COSTCO TARGET CUSTOMERS HIGH INCOME MOUSE OVER THREE POINT DEPARTMENT TWELVES ARE NOT A TARGET TOSCO CUSTER. WHAT DO YOU BASE THAT ON? ON I WISH I ACTUALLY HAD A WITH THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT WAS DONE ON CROSS CO. THAT REPORT THAT I DID WAS PUT OUT BY THERE ARE NO APARTMENT DWELLERS. NO I SAID IT IS NOT A TARGET COSTCO CUSTOMERS IF YOU READ THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PUT OUT. I ACTUALLY DON'T HIM TO YOU. CLOTHES. NEXT DOOR PUT.
BUT LET'S GO BACK TO THAT WAS QUICK HOSKO. NO, YOU DON'T. ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE THING IN A REAL. YOU JUST REMEMBER SHIP BASED DOOR AND IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT ANYBODY CAN SIGN UP FOR A CONCERT. HE IS WILLING TO PAY THE MONEY FOR IT STARTED. YOUR LABS. ANYBODY FROM PUBLIC SIDE UP ANYBODY WHO WAS WILLING TO PAY THE MONEY BACK. LET'S. NOT IF YOU GOT WHERE THE SO WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP WHAT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL? AND YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA. AND THAT. ALL OF THOSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CABANA POINT OFF HIS FAMILY. SINCE UH, THAT THAT IS CORRECT. AND IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING A MULTI FAMILY PROJECT? WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS A MULTI FIGHT FAMILY PROJECT CONNECTED TOL A 30 ACRE RESIDENTIAL AND YOU'RE PROPOSING. A FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS, WHICH IS OUT OF CHARACTER. THERE ARE NOT ANY OTHER FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALONG THAT CHARACTER, A MULTI FAMILY HOUSING THE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING ALONG THERE. ARE GENERALLY DUPLEXES.
AND THEN THERE'S THE DAY LA BAHIA. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED CONDOS. I BELIEVE THAT OUR DENSITY WAS IN THE 19. RIGHT? EXCELLENT. RIGHT? OKAY, LET'S AGAIN. LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. YOU SAY WE'RE AVOIDING DESTRY RULES WITH CP INDEED. BUT THE NET DENSITY OF A PROJECT AND YOU BRING THIS UP. WE'VE HAD TESTIMONY FROM THE STAFF. FROM OUR EXPERT WITNESS IS THAT THAT'S NOT HOW YOU CALCULATE IT. I KNOW BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE CHANGE
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HOW THEY WERE CALCULATING IT BACK IN 2019. WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT. BUT WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO WORK ON THE RULES TODAY. OH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. SLIDE. PRAY ABOUT IT, AND I THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO COPYRIGHTS. YOU WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S THAT? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? I WAS JUST SLIPPING BACK, AND I SAID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS LIKE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING. WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY. FIRST, YOUR LEAKY TREE FARM NURSERY PROPERTY FIRST. THAT RELEVANT TO THIS, SO I THINK IT IS. WHAT IS THE USE ON YOUR PROPERTY ON THE LEAKY TREE NURSING HERE? I GOT SOMETHING. AGRICULTURE AGRICULTURE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? WE'RE A ONE. OKAY. WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND. LET ME JUST FIND SOMETHING. QUITE SURE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THE POP PUBLIC COMMENTS STUFF. THIS IS OUR PLAN. OKAY FOR WHAT? IT'S WHERE THEY HAVE TO KEEP A RECORD. SO LET'S JUST LET HIM GET THROUGH. IT'S WE CAN ALL GET OUT OF HERE. BUT. FIRST OF ALL THE ZONING THE LANDING IS ON YOUR PROPERTY IS WHAT AGRICULTURE. THEY WANT THE LAND USE. IN THE COUNTY. YES AND I BELIEVE THE LAND USES A ONE NOTE ZOD. LOW DENSITY SHOT CORRECT. SLOW DOWN. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, BUT YES, IT IS LOW DENSITY AND ITS AGRICULTURE. IT'S I'M ALMOST THE ZONING IS A ONE A. I'M SORRY. A WINNING. I SAID THEY WON'T KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE LAND YOU SPOT.LAND USES LOW DENSITY. ZONING IS A ONE A. AND YOU DO YOU KNOW THAT THE A ONE, A ZONING, DESPERATE DISTRICT IS AN OBSOLETE WINNING DISTRICT. IT'S A CATEGORY IT'S A CATEGORY C.
IN THE COUNTY. WELL THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DESIGNATED IT A LONG TIME IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE. I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO READ THIS TO ME. DOCUMENT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO PUT INTO THE EXHIBIT.
IT'S HELEN. DUTY NURSERY HAS SATISFIED REQUIREMENTS TO ENGAGE IN THE BUSINESS, PROFESSION OR OCCUPATION OF. 6 50 RETAIL SALES. HE'S SO AGRICULTURE'S NEXT USE OF IT.
THE LITTLE TREE NURSERY IS A IS A RETAIL NURSERY. WERE MOSTLY A WHOLESALE NURSERY, ACTUALLY, BUT YOU BUT YOUR BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS, AND YOU FILED IT AS A RETAIL BUSINESS WITH COUNT.
HAPPY, OKAY, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT IN YOUR BUSINESSES ASK UNANSWERED. SO. AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT THAT'S CURRENTLY A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE WITH ACCOUNTING. YOU GUYS KNOW THIS IS WHERE ONE PERSON TESTIFYING THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CROWD WERE GONNA BE HERE EVEN LONGER. IF WE KEEP DOING THIS IN THE BORDER, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THIS WITH THIS PROJECT. HAVE TO DO WHAT HE HAS TO PUT A RECORD TOGETHER IN THE EVENT, SOMEONE APPEALS. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS TO IMPEACH HER TESTIMONY AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE STANDING TO OBJECT TO IT IF YOUR LAND ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IT'S CONTINUE, MR RAINES. NEXT SLIDE. SLIDE. FRONT. SEE IF YOU HAVE THE ONE OF THE TINY I KNOW THERE'S.
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HMM.I THINK WE'RE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS RICHARD. LET ME JUST.
OKAY, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA KEEP IT LIKE THAT FOR RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO SAY THAT AS SOON AS MS RICHARDS REST, I'M GONNA TRY TO REVALUATE. PROCEDURE. AS HOW, UM WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING UM. SO COMMISSION GONNA ALLOW THIS BECAUSE WE'RE IN DIRECT AT THIS TIME. ONE, MISS MR COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. MISS RICHARDS, IF YOU COULD IMPROVE THE PROCESS THAT I'VE SEEN HERE TONIGHT. BETTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND INPUT.
HOW WOULD YOU. I WOULD LIMIT THE PRESENTATION FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THE INTERVENER AND GIVE THEM A TIME LIMIT AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO PRESENT. OF IT, MISTER. I BELIEVE FOUR HOURS WAS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE. OH JUST YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET TO JUST SIT THERE. IN FAIRNESS COMMISSION ASKED QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE WAS GETTING READY TO SAY WE SPENT FOUR FOUR HOURS WAS NOT OUR PRESENTATION. HOURS WAS THEM CROSSING AND YOU ALL ASKING QUESTIONS ARE. ALL RIGHT, SO SHOULD WE LIMIT THE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AS WELL? AND WE DID A HYBRID TONIGHT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IS IT MR MARTEL? IS IT LEGAL FOR US TO LIMIT. THE APPLICATIONS TIME LIMIT IT ABSOLUTELY WITH HIS STORY. HISTORY OF THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN A DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR EVERYTHING AND PARTICIPATE. MOST COMMISSIONS. WOULDN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL BELIEVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO THE APPLICANT. HAVE A HARD TIME NOT ASKING QUESTIONS. NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IT'S BECAUSE WHAT THE INFORMATION IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS THAT MAKES IT LONGER. AND NOTED. THIS STRETCHES THERE YOU ARE YOU RESTING OR DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER WEAKNESS? YOU HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS AS THE APPLICANT TOOK. I WOULD LIKE THE HEART. YEARS. IT WAS ARSON. YOU. YOU. YOU. RIGHT? THIS ONE. SWEAR TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH THAT YOU SPARE SO THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD.
SO HARD AND YOU'VE BEEN SWORN. SMELL. ARE YOU GOING TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS? HE JUST WANTED TO GIVE TESTIMONY. HIATT SENT AN EMAIL TO EACH ONE OF YOU. OUTLINING THE SOURCE IS USED. IN THIS SMALL BIT OF ANALYSIS THAT I DID. THAT'S WHAT YOU SPEAK UP TO THE MIKE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU. OK I MY FIRST QUESTION IS, COULD YOU ALL HEAR ME? UM AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND. I KNOW WHO TO HIRE. 51 HAS ZONING CHANGE. UM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME. UM. YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW. I HAD DONE SOME GEOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS BASED ON BEST AVAILABLE SOURCES. I'D SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL WITH A NAP.
SHOWING THOSE SOURCES TO SOURCES I USED FOR THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE DATABASE.
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PARCEL LINE WORK, WHICH I HAD A HAND IN DEVELOPING AND EARLY NINETIES HERE. ALONG WITH THE COUNTY ADDRESS FILE AND USED BY 911. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL BUT COUNTY AND SO ON. USE THOSE SOURCES AND BASIC GEOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE AREA. MM.SO USING THESE SOURCES AND JS SERVICES, I ACTUALLY CONSUMED SERVICES FROM Y'ALL'S G. I S FOLKS. CONGRATULATIONS ON HIRING SOMEONE TO DO G. I S HERE RECENTLY. WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY. ALSO YOUR YOUR VENDORS, YOUR CONSULTANTS. YOU FIRED OVER THE YEARS. I'VE HEARD HIM TOO. I WORKED WITH HIM AND FOR HIM AND SO ON, AND THEY WORK FOR ME. YOU ALL DO GOOD UP HERE. I CONSUMED YOUR SERVICES ALONG WITH THE SERVICE IS PRESENTED BY MARTIN COUNTY.
SEC JACKASS STAFF. AND CONSULTANTS TO PERFORM THE ANALYSIS. I SIMPLY DID IT ONE MILE BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. APPLICANTS AREA. AND SELECTED OUT THE ADDRESS POINTS THAT FELL WITHIN THIS BUFFER. WAS ALSO ABLE TO JOIN THE ADDRESS POINTS BASED ON THEIR UNIQUE IDENTIFY HER TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DATABASE TO GET THE LAND USE OF THAT PARTICULAR POINT ADDRESS GRADUATES POINTS AND SO THAT WHEN YOU ALL KIND OF CALL 911.
I KNOW WHERE TO GO, BUT IT ZZ WITH SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S KIND OF HARD WITH MULTI FAMILY, ESPECIALLY MIXED USE. I USE THOSE SOURCES BUFFERED OUT ONE MILE. I FOUND THAT IT ALSO WENT ACROSS THE RIVER THIS ONE MILE BUFFER FROM THE PARTIAL OUTLINES. DECIDED BASED ON DEFENSE ABILITY. AND MY EXPERIENCE IN FRONT OF BOARDS ASKING YOU ALL FOR MONEY. FOR SERVERS AND SUCH. THEN I SHOULD REMOVE THOSE ADDRESSES FROM FURTHER ANALYSIS. ABOUT 400 OR SO. HOMES OVER IN PALM CITY THAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THE STUDY. UM, SO WITHIN A MILE ON THIS SIDE OF THE RIVER, THERE WERE LIKE 6500 ADDRESSES. I'M ROUNDING A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE DATA, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF, OR HAVE YOUR STAFF THAT UM, OF THAT WAS 5300.
RESIDENTIAL. SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, CONDOS, APARTMENTS AND SUCH. WITH THE COUNTY AVERAGE OF 2.4 PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD. IT'S FROM THE SENSES. THAT GIVES US 12,700 RESIDENTS. AND IN MY ESTIMATION, FROM MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THIS IS PROBABLY AN UNDERESTIMATE. 12,700 RESIDENTS WITHIN ONE MILE THIS PROJECT. OF THESE 5300 UNITS. 1200 UNITS. 2900 PLUS OR MINUS RESIDENTS. WELL, THEN WHAT I'LL CALL THE CORRIDOR. FROM THE RIVER EASTER WILLOUGHBY. FROM MONTERREY, SOUTH INDIAN. IT'S A NICE LITTLE STRETCH. YOU'VE SEEN SOME PHOTOS OF IT UP HERE. CROSSINGS MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT GIVES US 3000 RESIDENTS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT THERE EITHER ADJACENT OR CLOSE ENOUGH FOR A MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL OUTFIELDER INTO OUR BASEBALL TEAM. NONE OF THESE EXISTING LAND USES IN THIS CORRIDOR WOULD ALL CALL THE COURT OR THAT LITTLE STRETCH. GENERATE THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT HIGHLY DANCE, MULTI FAMILY. OR. BIG BOX STORES AND SO ON ATTRACT. HEALTHCARE FACILITY. IT'S NICE, THE BURGER PLACE. COUPLE OF GAS STATIONS, A NICE PLANT NURSERY. THINK THERE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED. BUT I DON'T INCLUDE THAT IN ANALYSIS AT THIS POINT. SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY NOT A GOOD FIT. I AM QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS. TO PROBABLY PASSING SCP EXAM IF YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF ME NOW, BUT I NEVER BOTHERED. I DECIDED YEARS AGO WHEN I TOOK PLANNING LAW. AT THE BANG OF THE GAVEL IS WHAT COUNTS. AND THIS BOARD'S GAVEL BANGING DOES COUNT QUITE A BIT.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER GAVELS GOT PRETTY BANGED. ALSO. MM. AGAIN I'VE DISTRIBUTE THE APP SHOWING THIS DATA. AND, UM. IN THE END THE END OF THOUGHT OF BREVITY. AND BRING UP MORE LATER, BUT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP IN. SURE, OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. POINT OF ORDER. VERIFIED HOW MANY. WELL, I CALL IT THE COURT OR YOU KNOW? DON'T NEED
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TO REPEAT THAT. MY ANALYSIS SHOWED 2900. YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR DON'T QUESTIONS FROM THE.WAS INSIDE AND. I THINK YOU'RE JUST THE MONEY'S FINISHED ON THIS. MISS RICHARDS IS ASKING ME TO PRESENT ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. SIR RICHARD'S NEXT NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE. I'D LIKE TO CALL JERRY. KAHAN COOK A HAN. WHEN YOU WANT. ACTUALLY 24 60 CENTS. I DON'T KNOW. ACTUAL OR DANCE? YEAH. ACTUAL ORDER 24 SISTERS. YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN. MY NAME IS JERRY TICKLE ON? I'VE BEEN A LINE TWICE TONIGHT. SIR, CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST THING? YEAH. YEAH, SURE. GET THE RADIO. YOU COULD. JUST GIVE US YOUR ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT IS. OKAY? WHY SHE K. L H A H N COMMUNE. ALL RIGHT? YEAH I LEARNED THAT WHEN I WAS IN THIRD GRADE, BUT FORGOT BECAUSE I'M SOLD. OKAY, ANYWAY, UH, FIRST OF ALL MY UNDERGRADUATE. THE REASON CIVIL IS HEARING FROM THE CITADEL. THE MASTER'S DEGREE ISN'T MENTAL ECONOMICS FROM THE COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES, WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESENTATION. I'M GIVING TO YOU BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU FACTS. WHEN YOU WHEN THIS GUY WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT EXTRA TESTIMONY, I'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE OF IT. TONIGHT WE'LL TRY TO DISPROVE A WHOLE LOT OF WATCHMAN SAID, BECAUSE IT JUST AIN'T RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT? I HAVE WORKED WITH SOME PEOPLE AROUND HERE. SUSAN O'ROURKE IS ONE OF THE FINEST HE WAS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR PUT ON OUR CHARITY CHOICE LAWN HERE IN TOWN CHASING CATERPILLARS, AND SHE DID THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FORMING. SHE'S GREAT AND THE REASON I SAID THAT WOULD BLOCK ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC. BECAUSE I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET THAT DECELERATION LINE BEFORE THE SOUTH BOUND TRAIN. AND GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GETTING IT. I DON'T WASTE WORDS. IF I SAY SOMETHING, IT'S FOR A REASON. AND WHEN I SAY THAT THERE'S A TRIAL, IT'S GOING TO BE A FIRE NIGHTMARE. SOMEBODY'S GONNA TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK BEFORE YOU GET TO THE. IN HERE TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE BUILDING CODES ON TO EASY I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE HAVE RUN OUT SOMETHING SO I SAY THINGS FOR REASONS NORMAN AND THIS ONE WILL PROBABLY SHOCK. YOU'RE SOME KIND OF GET STARTED. SCHOOL SLOW ON LOVE YOU OKAY? KEEP TELLING ME SLOWING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WILL TRY TO TALK SLOWLY. EVERY TELLS ME THAT I KEEP FORGETTING. MM. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS LIKE THE NINTH INNING BOTTOM OF THE NINTH, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ALL RIGHT NOW. AND MR MATHIS AND YOU. YOU WANTED TO KEEP IT BLACK AND WHITE. I HOPE TO GIVE YOU BLACK. CHOI MCDONALD'S HAVEN'T SEEN YOU SINCE I THINK WE RAN THE BEACH TO BAR RUN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WASN'T IT? YEAH YEAH, IT WAS FUN ON THE BUS. I GOT TO TALK AND FOUND OUT LATER THAT HE WAS AN IMPORTANT KYRA COMMISSIONER, SO THAT WAS KIND OF FUN. UM. THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH. BY THE WAY, I ALSO WORKED WITH GUNTHER ASSOCIATION. THEY HELPED GET THE CEO FOR THE PLANT THAT I BUILT DOWN THE NATIONAL PLAN TO CORNER OF CANADA HIGHWAY AND 95. SO I'VE BEEN DOING THIS STUFF AND I'VE BEEN DOING THE HARDER PART. MUCH HARDER THAN TRYING TO GET CPD AND I PUT HIM BATCH BLANCHE, AND NOBODY WANTS THEM. SO I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS KIND OF FUN. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THAT. MAYBE YOU WEREN'T THERE, OKAY? ALL RIGHT, FIRST OF ALL. NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN MARTIN COUNTY WANTS THIS PLAN WHETHER YOU WANT THIS PLANT OR WHETHER COSTCO WANTS HIS FLAT TONIGHT YOU CANNOT APPROVE IT.
OKAY, IT'S UNLAWFUL. RIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE REASONS I CAN MAKE SUCH A BLANKET STATEMENT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE UP HERE TONIGHT IN THE DEVELOPED THE DEVELOPMENT GUY, THE PLANNER, REFERRING TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ONE PART OF A THREE PART STACK THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. YOU WERE HERE. FOR GOD'S SAKE. NAME ON THE LIST WAS CHANGED WAS MODIFIED IN 2017 WITH ORDINANCE 23 32-2017. THAT ESTABLISHED THAT FOR BASICALLY FOR P U GS THAT NET ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE USED IN THE CALCULATION. 2019 IT WAS RE MODIFIED AND THE 2019 CODE WAS 24 $1.2019 24 1-2019 CHANGED ONE THING, PARAGRAPH
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THREE IS THE ONLY PLACE IT'S REFERRED TO AND IT CHANGED THE CALCULATIONS FOR ON LEE.PRESIDENTIAL PIA DAYS TO BE GROSS. UH GROSS ACREAGE. ALRIGHT. THEY USED GROSS AVERAGE ON THIS CALCULATION THAT CAN'T BUY YOUR ORDNANCE. THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE TO USE THAT DENSITY FOR C P U T. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY. RIGHT IN THEIR CORNER IN A RESIDENTIAL P UT THE MAXIMUM COMMERCIAL AREA. YOU CAN HAVE HIS 30. RIGHT. SO USING THEIR NEWS USING THE GROCER IS NOT A GREAT IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL DESTINY. HOWEVER LET'S GO TO A COMMERCIAL AND A COMMERCIAL. YOUR MATCH FROM RESIDENTIAL WILL BE 30% YOU COULD HAVE 10% RESIDENTIAL. SHOW YOU HAD 100 ACRE PLOT AND YOU WENT 90% OF IT. COMMERCIAL. THAT MEANS ON THE LAST 10 ACRES, YOU COULD HAVE 150 YEARS IT'S PER ACRE DENSITY. OKAY, THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T CHANGE RESIDENTIAL BACK TURD FOR GROSSED ASHLEY FOR A C P. CPU DAYS REMAIN UNDER YOUR OWN ORDINANCE. OK. BASED ON THAT DENSITY, THE PROPER CALCULATION THEREFORE, FOR THIS AS THE 14.7 OR LESS ACREAGE, BECAUSE THERE'S EXEMPTIONS AND THE 398 YEARS COMING TO SOMETHING LIKE 27, YOU HAVE PRAGER. MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE WAS ALSO CHANGED IN 24 OH 1-2019 FROM 10, WHICH IT HAD BEEN 2 15. SHE ALLOWED 15 UNITS PER ACRE. I HAVE 14.7 ACRES. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE. MY CODE. NOW, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT THE IMPACT OF THIS IS CONSISTENCY. WHY DO I SHAKE CONSISTENCY? BECAUSE YOU'RE. I'LL BE SAVED. YOUR LANDED ON THE CODES ARE GOVERNED BY MY BY FLORIDA STATUTE. 1 63 1, 63 SAYS. YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY. IF YOU TONIGHT WILL PROVE THIS WITH POTENTIALLY THAT YOU'RE HAVING YOUR SAY THAT EVERY DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN HERE THAT THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY. BECAUSE THE NEXT GUY YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND SAY I'VE GOT 100 ACRES, I'M GONNA PUT A SHOPPING CENTER AND THE HELP IT OFF. THE LAMB WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. I'M NOT PUT HOUSING BACK THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. IT IS ON LEVEL TO PASS THIS TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS ACCORDING TO JERRY, ARE EVERYBODY TO BACK IT UP? I HAVE COPIES OF THEM. WHAT IS NICE.
ORIGINAL IS GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU YOU CAN'T PUT IN A PHRASE THAT SAYS, I CAN REPEAL ALL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, BUT THE KEY IS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. SO THAT MEANS THAT WENT 24 1 DASH. UH HUH. 2019 WAS PASSED. THAT MEANS BY THE SEVEN BILLION CLOSET DOT DID NOT REPLACE ANYTHING THAT WAS EXISTING AND 23 32 OF 2017. THEREFORE THAT READ THE RESIDENTIAL DENT THE FIRST CPU DEED, THERE'S A POTENTIALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL IS BASED ON NET NATIONALLY PERIOD. NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS. I'M SORRY THAT YOUR PLANNER I'M SORRY THAT YOU DON'T BUT GUYS ON YOUR STAFF. DID NOT GO TO THAT. NOW. IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S FINE. BUT I'M TELLING YOU WHAT MY RESEARCH HAS SHOWN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THAT YOU'RE ON THE POINTS, YOU KNOW? I AM MORE. LIBRARY THAT ALL HEILONG I'M THE BOTTOM OF THE NIGHT. OK ALL RIGHT. YEAH, OKAY. SO THREE LEVELS. THE L D C C PERCENT AT 23 32. YOU GUYS WERE HERE FOR ALL THAT SUPERSEDED BY 24 A LOT OF 2019. OKAY? AND IT'S ALL LATER. I'M NOT GOING TO SING HERE. A LOT OF TIME I'VE GOT IT. I'M ONE OF THE GUYS THAT I HAD STUFF TO STICK IN THE PRESENTATION UP HERE, BUT I GOT REJECTED BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN ON TIME, EVEN THOUGH OTHER GUYS GOT TO SUBMIT IT LATER. SO THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING THROUGH PAPERS HERE. SO WHAT'S NICE IS FOR HAVING TO HAVE IN CLASS AND YOU GUYS GOT A PEN? ALL RIGHT? ALL COMMUNITIES ARE NOT THE SAME. ALL RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, JUST ONE THROUGH THE CALCULATIONS, RESIDENTIAL P UT IS BASED AT THE CORE OF AN R P UT, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT YOU USE. GROSS IS RESIDENTIAL, WHICH. COMMERCIAL COULD NOT EXCEED 30% CPU G AT THE CORE IS THE COMMERCIAL THE RESIDENTIAL CAN EXCEED 30% BUT IF IT'S 10% THAT ALLOWS A HUGE DENSITY. THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T CHANGED.
ALL RIGHT. P UT DESIGNATION IS OVERALL USING CALLING THIS THING A P UT IS JUST INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR OWN STATUES. WHAT IS YOUR OWN STATUTE SAY? SAYS MPUDI SHALL
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CONSIST WITH LAND UNDER UNIFIED CONTROL, AND I HAVE YET TO SEE A DOCUMENT. OKAY, ESTABLISHING UNIFIED CONTROL. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT UNIFIED CONTROL THE GOAL OF THAT IN A MINUTE.OKAY A TYPICAL PG GROWING FOOD PRINCIPAL ACCESSORY. THIS IS INSTRUCTORS SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED TO THE CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. THROUGH THE SURROUNDING AREA OF WHICH IS A PART. NOW TAKE A LOOK. DRIVE DOWN CANTER. AND JUST TELL ME WHEN 444 STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON A COSTCO, WHICH IS A DESTINATION BOX STORE. IT'S NOT JUST A BIG BOX STORE. IT'S A DESTINATION BIG BOX STORE. RIGHT? AND THEN IT SAYS, AS YOU KNOW, AS USED ABOVE UNIFIED CONTROL MEANS THAT ALL LAND TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN A P UT SHALL WE OWNED OR OTHERWISE, UNDER THE LEGAL CONTROL OF A PERSON OR LEGAL ENTITY, WHICH IS FLYING FOR THE BEAUTY. THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THAT'S YOUR ORDERS. BUT WHO ELSE IS ORDINANCES THAT THAT'S STATE LAW? YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO APPROVE THIS FIGURE DEAL WITH. TYPICALLY A P U. J BEFORE YOU GUYS CONSIDER APPROVING A P U D HAS ORDINANCES. IT SAYS ONE OF THE SPEED LIMITS GONNA BE. HE'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE LINES. WHO'S GOING TO DO THIS? WHO'S GONNA DO THAT? AND YET YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO EXPECT. GONNA DEVELOP THE REAL ESTATE AGENT OUT OF NEW JERSEY IS GONNA TELL COSTCO WHAT TO DO. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY, UNIFIED CONTROLS AT THE CORE OF A BEAUTY. WHY WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT COHESIVE, SYNERGISTIC SOMETHING THAT IS SELF SUPPORTING SOMETHING OF HIS LIFE. HE'S ONE WHO WEARS THE TOWN OF ITS OWN.
OKAY IT WAS REALLY KIND OF DEVELOPED FOR THINGS LIKE YOU. YOUR TRADITIONS. THAT'S WHAT KIND OF CAME FROM ONE BECAME SMALLER AND SMALLER. THIS IS A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE.
THIS IS A P U G IS ON LEE. IT'S A GRATUITY BY YOU GUYS. IT IS IF I'M GOING INTO A COMMERCIAL SITE, I'M A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER. I BAR COMMERCIAL LAND, AND I MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL. YOU GUYS REALLY CAN'T JUST APPROVE IT AS LONG AS I MEET YOUR CODES. YOU D IS NOT THE SAME. P U T IS A BEGGING OKAY FROM THE DEVELOPER SAYING. HEY, I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN. OKAY AND WHAT FROM THAT? GUESS WHAT? I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOMETHING. WHAT DOES THIS GIVE YOU? NOTHING. TYPICALLY AN A P U D YOU GET OPEN SPACE. YOU GET PARKS.
YOU'RE INCREASING THE POPULATION. AND IF YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT IF A GUY BUYS AN APARTMENT, HIS HOUSE AND YOU'RE GONNA SELL THE NEXT DAY AND THIS ENVIRONMENT. OKAY, THAT'S HOW YOU INCREASE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE BY A HALF OF A PERCENT AND THE CITY DOES NOT GET ONE SQUARE FOOT OF AMENITIES. NOTHING. EVERYTHING IS IN A GATED COMMUNITY IS GATED. AND THE BIG BOX STORES ALL BY ITSELF, AND THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL. WHAT DOES THE CITY GET FOR GIVING THEM THIS? P UT? THAT'S THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS ASK. ANA PED, GO AND VISIT ANY P UT IN THIS STATE OR IN THIS COUNTRY. AND YOU'LL FIND THAT THEY PUT IN. NO WALKWAYS.
PARKWAYS YOU KNOW SOMETHING TO BENEFIT BECAUSE YOU ARE GIVING THEM A GIFT. RIGHT THERE GIVING YOU'RE GIVING THEM A GIFT AND GETTING NOTHING, YOU KNOW? THAT'S LIKE A ONE WAY CHRISTMAS PRESENT. OKAY SO THIS IS THIS COSTCO PD ESTABLISHES NEITHER UNIFIED CONTROL NOR SINISTER, SYNERGISTIC RELATIONSHIP. EARLIER I WAS GOING TO ASK THE STORM WATER DRY. I WANTED TO CLARIFY. I NEVER HEARD OF SPECIFIC STATEMENT THAT HE WAS BASICALLY ON 100 YEAR 24 HOUR FLOOD EVENT. WHY DO I ASK THAT? BECAUSE. YOU ARE THE CITY OF STUART. BUT YOUR DREAM WATERS GO INTO THE MARTIN COUNTY AND INTO TONTO D O T. SO ANY REQUIRES APPROVAL LETTERS FROM D O T FOR GOING ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO D, O T SOILS AND ANYTHING GOING INTO MARTIN COUNTY INTO US? WELL THAT FEEDS INTO ANY MARTIN COUNTY GETS REQUIRES 100 YEAR 24 HOUR FLOOD CRITERIA. BRINGING THAT UP FOR THE RECORD, ALL RIGHT? THAT IS THEIR MARTIN COUNTY L D. R 4.3.
85 C. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS THEY'RE REQUIRING. THEY MAY BYPASS IT. THEY MAY NOT, BUT THAT'S IN THEIR COURAGE. JUST I WANT TO PASS OUT ON BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO. YOU DON'T WANT TO TURN AROUND TO PROVE THIS THING AND HAD MARTIN COUNTY COME BACK AND SAY. YOU DON'T WANT TO FLOOD YOUR NEIGHBORS, ALL RIGHT? SO. SUMMARY. JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID THERE.
OKAY. PV IS NOT A SITE PLAN TONIGHT. YOU'RE ACTING LIKE YOU'RE PROVING A SITE PLAN.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROVING A P U T. THAT IS NOT A SITE PLAN. IF IT WAS A SIGHT LINE, IT WAS BEING WITHIN A COMMERCIAL ZONE. REASON RESIDENTIAL ZONE. IT'S A BEAUTY, A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO THE BENEFIT THE CITY, ALL RIGHT. I SAY IT'S NOT COMPLIANT
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WITH RESIDENTIAL. I SHOW YOU CAN'T PROVE IT. ALL RIGHT. I SAY THAT IF YOU WERE, YOU'RE PROVING IT WILL BE CHALLENGED WITHIN THE 30 DAY CHALLENGE PERIOD, AND IT WOULD BE ANY WOULD BE OVERTURNED. YOU DON'T WANT THAT. NOBODY WANTS THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.WE WANT TO GET THE BEST THING FOR THE CITY. HUH? IT'S A CLASSIC BEAUTY IS NOT A SIGHT PLANETS, AN INTEGRATED SET OF DOCUMENTS TO DESCRIBE THE BYLAWS AND THE OPERATING POLICIES OF THE PERIOD, NONE OF WHICH EXIST. THERE'S NOT ONLY UNIFIED CONTROL THE PROPERTY IS STILL UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. ALL RIGHT. IF THE PD WANT DOCUMENTATION AS STATED, ONCE YOU ONCE IT IS AN ORDINANCE AND A SET OF LAWS THAT PROTECT YOU TO THE CITY. YOU WHEN YOU APPROVED A P UT YOU'RE APPROVING A CHANGING ZONING. YOU ARE PROVING I SAID A BIOLOGIC. RIGHT? YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN ORDER NOISE ORDINANCE. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY, WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN? ALL RIGHT, ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU'RE PART OF THE BYLAWS OF GOING TO A BEAUTY BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUR SIGNING OFF WITH THOSE OF YOUR LAWS. OKAY? THEY CAN'T DEVIATE FROM THE CITIES. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DO THAT YOU'RE NOT THERE YET. HUH? THAT'S YET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YES YOU CAN CROSS THAT.
YOU GUYS, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON POINT. I'M JUST FACING FACTS. OKAY I'M GONNA ASK YOU FOR IS A COPY OF YOUR BOOK. KARA YEAH, THAT LOOKS PRETTY INTERESTING. THANKS. WROTE A BOOK CALLED CHASING CALIFORNIA. LOOK CHASING CALIFORNIA'S IT'S ABOUT GETTING INTO TRIATHLON. WHEN YOU'RE LIKE 61 YEARS OLD, AND THE NICE THING IS I PUT ON A CHARITY TRIATHLON HERE CALLED CHASING CALIFORNIA TRIATHLON. AT THE POOL. THANK YOU. MR MR RAINES. PLEASE JUST LET'S KEEP THE ANYWAY I'M SURE HIS PAST WAS FAST AND I WAS TRYING TO KEEP YOU. THANK YOU PASSED THE 24. THANK YOU, MR RAINES. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS WITNESS? YES. WHEN YOU SAY FIRST OF ALL AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA LAND IS TRY TO CORRECT MASTER LUCKY. THANK YOU. AND YOU DO HAVE A CIVIL ENGINEER. NO, I DON'T WANT IT. YOU SAY THAT? HAVE TO CALCULATE BY NEXUS. YES, BASED ON WHAT BASED. BASED ON ORDERS 23 32 JUST 2017, OKAY? WAS NOT. SHE PROCEEDED IN THAT FOR NET CURTAIN IN THE IN THE CPD BY TRYING FOR BY 24 OR 1 2022 TRYING ACTUALLY. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE, BUT I WANT TO GET IT UP ON THE SCREEN, OKAY? 23 32 DAYS 2017.
TWO HOURS OF HELP FROM GOVERNMENT.
IS IF SOME WEIGHT AND BLOW IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.
SO ON THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE. AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LANGUAGE. HELP YOURSELF KIDS GOODS, SO NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? IN THAT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR AN ART BEAUTY. CHANCE. YEAH.
THAT THE DENSITY. FURTHER DOWN TO MY FINGERS FROM YOUR OUT THERE KNOW THAT ZIT POPULAR PAGE RIGHT THERE RIGHT THERE. IT SAYS THAT THE DENSITY AND IT TALKS ABOUT THEN THAT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY FOR AN RPG BEAUTY IS THAT CORRECT, NOT A CPD. NOT EXCEED. WENT THROUGH.
GO DOWN THIS ONE FIRST. THEN CHAPTER 12 IS YOU KNOW WHAT CHAPTER 12 IS? IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES. SIMPLY DEFINITIONS. YEAH, OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. TRACK THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY
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PROPEL IRRIGATION. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, CORRECT. YES, SIR. LOOKING SO. RIGHT? CORRECT BUT LET ME LET ME JUST SHOW YOU WHERE I THINK YOU'RE INCORRECT. GO ON. LIKE YOU. I LIKE YOU.TWO OH, THREE. OH, THREE. THIS IS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT AMENDS CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE CODE. OKAY? SO IT'S UM, ENDING UP TOP. IT'S AMENDING SECTION TWO POINT OH, SEVEN. OH AND THEN IT STOPS AND THEN IT IMMENSE. SECTION TWO POINT OH, THREE. PLAYING UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THEN DOWN BELOW IT. ADMITS CHAPTER 12, IT ADDED. IN THERE, THE DENSITY BONUS AND IN IT. IT STRUCK THROUGH AND CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF DENSITY. SO YOU DON'T COMBINE THOSE THOSE DO NOT READ STRAIGHT THROUGH. CHEVRON SHAPED HERE. THAT. THEY APPROVED. YOU KNOW, GENERAL.
YES, THEY WILL BE USED FOR IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. WHERE DOESN'T SAY THAT? SO THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF GET. THAT'S THE DEFINITION. THERE'S OF THIS. RIGHT? WHY DON'T YOU. IT MEANT CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE. WHO'S ASKING THE QUESTIONS? DO IT AGAIN. WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE DOG? I'M NOT WHAT YOU SAID. JUST RESPOND TO THAT. IT'S WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE. THAT DONE. HE SHOULDN'T BE ASKING QUESTIONS. IF HE WANTS TO TELL YOU THE TITLE. HE'S WELCOME TO TELL YOU THE TITLE, BUT HE'S NOT ASKING QUESTIONS. OKAY. SELECTION WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THE DOCUMENT? IT'S AN ORDINANCE. IT'S AN ORDINANCE NUMBER. IT'S ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 1 NUMBER 24. GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL THE 26 ORDINANCE NUMBER EVER. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2332 PURPOSES. THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO AMEND THOSE CODES, WHICH IT DOES FINE DEFINITION IT DOES, AND IT DEFINES THE DEFINITION. OKAY YOU SAY YES. YOU SAY YES, WE WILL CHALLENGE.
YOU SAY? YES. YOU CONVINCED THEM. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S REAL CHALLENGE. OKAY CHECK. THIS JUST IS NOT A DEBATE. IT'S A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD AGAIN. BUT. LIKE I GUESS IT KIND OF CLOSE. YEAH YOUR INTERPRETATION. SENSED THAT WHY. THAT CHAPTER 12 IS DEFINITIONS.
YOU GO OVER TO THE OTHER MIND RESPONSE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU ON THE RECORD NOW, CAN YOU SHOW ME IN CODE TODAY. INTERSECTION ANYWHERE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THAT DENSITY CALCULATING. I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE WAS CHANGED, AND 24 1 2019. YOU SAY THAT THAT APPLIED ARE BEAUTIES? THAT'S RIGHT. ENSURE YOU I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU'RE GONNA JUMP IN ANYWHERE YOU WANT. CONVERSION AND THEY CAN FIGURE IT OUT ON CERTAIN. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I KNOW WE'RE THROUGH, OKAY? I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR. I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION ALL RIGHT. NO COURSE NOT A LAWYER. CORRECT. I DON'T INTEND TO BE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T WANT YOU FIGURE. THANK YOU, MISTER. AND THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S OUR RICHARDS. I HAD A COUPLE SLIDES, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? AT THIS POINT I'M JUST UH, IS MY SLIDE SHOW UP. I JUST NEED TO BE THE LAST THREE SLIDES AND IT'LL BE QUICK BECAUSE I'M IN IN CONCLUSION HERE, AND IT'S RELATE. SO COSTCO. AT WHAT COST? BECAUSE I TOLD YOU THIS ISN'T ABOUT COSTCO THIS ABOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT COSTCO IS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE THAT IS WANTED HERE. TO COSTCO. WHAT COST LOST OPPORTUNITY COST LEGACY COSTS. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT QUALITY OF LIFE OF EXISTING RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY. OKAY, SO WHAT, EACH OF YOU. HAVE TO ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. DOES THIS PROJECT MEET THE
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DEFINITION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT'S? IS THE C P U T COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES. DOES THE CPD ENHANCED THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS? DOES THIS CPU DEEPER RIGHT BENEFITS OR AMENITIES TO THE COMMUNITY AND ARE THE INTEGRATED PARTS OF THIS CPD COMPATIBLE WITH ONE ANOTHER? THOSE ARE THE FOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO ANSWER AND YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR. YOU HAVE TO THINK. IS THIS THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN DO FOR STUART? DO NOT BE AFRAID OF WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN. HAVE A UNIQUE PIECE OF LAND HERE AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO GIVE PERMISSION TO PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IN APPROPRIATE SPOT. YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL YOU GET A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, THEN. IS THAT? DO YOU REST YOUR CASE THIS SONG, MISS RICHARDS. I REST MY CASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR RAINES. YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON HER SUMMARY. OKAY, I'M GONNA LEAN ON MR MARTEL AT THIS TIME. AND, UM, OUR COMMISSION. I THINK OF THIS TIME NORMALLY, WE'D HAVE THE COMMISSION DELIBERATE, EVEN MAKE EMOTION AND HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND EMOTION. BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD JUST GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT. HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR EMOTION? I'M JUST WANTING TO FILE THERE'S NO REASON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WITHOUT EMOTION. WELL, I'LL MAKE IT HAPPENING ON OKAY? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. HAS BEEN EMOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNER. IS THERE A SECOND IF THE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL AS IT STANDS, I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT MOTION. I HAVE A LIST OF CONDITIONS. THAT I ASKED. WE'D HEAR OUT. ARE YOU SECOND IT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE SOME COMMON FOR DISCUSSION, MADISON WE CAN DISCUSS THE. RIGHT, DONALD SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, COMMISSION, MCDONALD SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION. UM MR MATHESON. AS I STATED, IN MY INITIAL PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE EVEN TO CONSIDER THIS, WE SHOULD ALL DELIBERATE EXTENSIVELY BEFORE MAKING JUMPING TO EMOTION. WE DO HAVE TO ASK. IS THIS THE BEST? WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE CITY OF STUART. PART OF THAT IS PREDICTING WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. IF WE TRY TO REJECT THE PROJECT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH LAWSUITS PENDING ON IRE SIDE OF THIS? I CAN TELL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT NO. I'D LIKE TO LAY OUT A LIST OF CONDITIONS. DISCUSS THEM. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE AT THIS TIME. MISSIONER. I DON'T MAKE THIS LIGHTLY COMING UP HERE SINCE YOU GOT HERE AND STARTED LIKE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR. THAT'S OUR JOB. I HAVEN'T MADE MY DAY WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS. YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET ME SAY ANYTHING. NO. IF THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE I'D LIKE OURS, AND I CAN'T SEE A THING WE HAVEN'T HAD THE PUBLIC HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK, AND I THINK WE SHOULD DELIBERATE. AS A COMMISSION UP HERE. THEY HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK AT ALL. AT THIS TIME. WE KNOW WE GOT TO DO THAT. I NEVER GO TO THAT. WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO THAT. BUT I MADE A MOTION AND I DIDN'T MAKE IT SIMPLY TO SIT HERE AND BE CRITICIZED OVER IT.YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS IT IS THAT CORRECT? YES. MOVE IN TONIGHT'S SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM MR MAN. YES. HAVE A LIST OF CONDITIONS IF I'M GOING TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT NUMBER ONE. LIKE THE ENTIRE PEUT TO FOLLOW THE CITY OF STUART'S LANDSCAPE PLAN, INCLUDING THE ELIMINATION THE USE OF LIFE IS SAFE. I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THE DENSITY REDUCED BY 20. LIKE THE TO CONVERT THE OVERFLOW PARKING. IT FACES COSTCO BOULEVARD. PERVIOUS. CONCRETE OR TURF. NUMBER FOUR. I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE AND REQUEST TRUE.
MATURE SHADE TREES BE PLACED IN THE TREE DIAMONDS IN THE PARKING LOT. EITHER OAKS. ROYAL POINT. CNN'S. I'D LIKE FOUNTAINS IN EVERY LAKE. LIKE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT LAKE NUMBER TWO AS THE FENCE OR WALL REMOVED, SO THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I'D LIKE ALL LAKES, INCLUDING THE ONE LUNG CANCER AND THE ONE ALONG WILLOUGHBY. MORE IRREGULAR SHAPED. HAVE
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MORE LITERAL SHELVES. DONE SUCCESSFUL JOB. IT'S LIKE NUMBER TWO NUMBER EIGHT. WOULD LIKE. THE NAME COSTCO BOULEVARD TO BE RENAMED FOR SOMETHING MORE APPROPRIATE FOR STUART.NUMBER NINE. WOULD LIKE. SIGNIFICANT VISUAL FEATURE TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE US. OF WHAT IS IN THE ROUNDABOUT. NUMBER 10 IN THE MOTION OF REMOVED ALL CREDITS APPLIED FOR BY COSTCO FOR THE COST OF PHIL. NO, THEY HAVE STATED THEY WOULD DO THAT. NUMBER 11. PRIOR TO SECOND READING PROVIDE A FULL BREAKDOWN OF TREATMENT. A GATIEN. 13 REPORT ANNUALLY. THE STORM WATER TREATMENT FUNCTIONS. TO THE CITY. SO WE'RE INSURED THAT IS PROPERLY FUNCTIONING AND MAINTAINED. AND I'M OPEN TO LISTENING TO MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS. LITTLE BEAR. YES, COMMISSIONER MCDONALD, OKAY. ADDRESSED THE LIST IN A IN A MOMENT, BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW ISSUES. REGARDING THE TESTIMONY TONIGHT. YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT. BEEN A LONG NIGHT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY WANT TO BE HERE. THIS LATE. I NO, I DON'T. BUT WE'RE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO AND WE AGREED TO IT. UM SO. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK ONE THING IS CERTAIN ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. WE ALL LOVE STUART LOVE IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS WITH HE'S WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ATTACHMENTS. UM MY MYSELF. I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE 26 YEARS MY WIFE WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE BACK WHEN SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL. THERE WAS ONLY ONE MOVIE THEATER, THE LYRIC AND. HEAD. I HAD BEEN OUT SPEAKING WITH MY NEIGHBORS WERE RECEIVED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EMAILS OR READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. UM I WISH I COULD HAVE RESPONDED TO ALL OF THEM. BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, I CAN'T. IT WAS. IT WAS JUST IT WAS A IT WAS A LENGTHY PROCESS READING JUST READING THEM. SO, BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE, UM. LOTS OF FRIENDS, FAMILY NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE OPINIONS ON THIS, AND WE'VE HEARD QUALITY OF LIFE. ONE OF THE THINGS AND I HAVE SPENT. 26 GOOD. 24 THE 26 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, UM. SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH FOLKS THAT GREW UP HERE AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS AND THIS HAS BEEN A BEEN SOMETHING OF GREAT IMPORTANCE. AND WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE THAT GREW UP HERE IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES. I HEAR A LOT THAT. YOU KNOW, FAMILY MEMBERS LEFT MY WIFE'S ENTIRE FAMILY LEFT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE CERTAIN AMENITIES AND. CERTAIN THINGS AND MY WIFE IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT. HER SIBLINGS ARE ALL GOD SO THEY BECAUSE THEY LEFT AND DIDN'T COME BACK. SO WE HAVE LOTS OF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CREATE A QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BALANCED. UM AND DOES, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYONE'S FEELINGS. SO I'M GONNA GO DOWN BEFORE I ADDRESSED COMMISSIONER MATHESON'S LIST. THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS ON THERE I CAN I CAN WORK WITHIN THE CUP BOY. BE HONEST, I CAN'T. BUT THAT'S THE POINT OF SO PRETTY. YES. OH, JUST FROM A PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED. INTO AH, STEWART, A BEAUTY WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED. UM OH, AND THIS THE FIRST THE SITE PLAN ITSELF.
I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY SIGHT PLANETS EVOLVED. IT'S BEEN IN. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT. GET IT RIGHT ON HAVE INPUT FROM THE CITY REGARDING CAN ACTIVITY. WE TALK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY. WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO CUT STORMWATER. WE ASKED. WE ASK OF THOSE THINGS OF THE DEVELOPERS. THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. UM HAS BEEN AMAZING FOR I'VE NEVER
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I'VE NEVER HAD SOME BECOME BEFORE US THAT WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORT ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. NO TO MISS RICHARDS. I ACTUALLY YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS BUT IN 2001, TOO.I INTERVENED AGAINST WAL MART. SO I KNOW YOUR PLIGHT AND. SO I, UH, HAD I FAILED ON THAT INTERVENTION, BUT, UM. AND IT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE SO BAD. I STILL DON'T GO TO WAL MART, BUT THAT'S FOR DIFFERENT REASONS THAN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. THE SO. WE'VE HEARD EXPERT TESTIMONY WE'VE HEARD FROM FROM THE FROM EXPERTS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER. WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR STAFF. UM, I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH. OUR STAFF AND OUR ATTORNEY REGARDING THE LEGAL DUTY, BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM THE INTERVENERS. AND. YOU HAVE BEEN WELL RESEARCHED, AND I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO IT. IT'S IN THE THESE DECISIONS ARE HARD AND WE DON'T TAKE HIM LIGHTLY. I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF US TAKE HIM LIGHTLY. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT. I SEEN, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, OUR STAFF AND OUR THAT OUR STAFF IS CORRECT THAT THIS BEAUTY IS ILLEGAL. NO. TO ADDRESS THE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES OF. COMMISSIONER MATHESON. I TOOK MY NOTES QUICKLY, SO I MAY NEED YOUR HELP WITH THIS, SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH ON THE ROUND ON THE LEO. WHAT IS IT REAL FAST? MAYBE WHATEVER THE ROUNDUP, LIFE ASIDE, LEO FIGHTS THAT'S NAME. HAVE A HARD TIME PRONOUNCING THAT AND I APOLOGIZE. I AM PERFECTLY GOOD.
AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THE APPLICANT REGARDING THAT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THAT YOU'VE SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND WHEN I WANT TO GO ONE BACK TO ONE OTHER THING BACK ON MY LIST. I MISS ONE OF THINGS ON MY LIST IS. I'VE HEARD. SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S NOT ABOUT JOBS. TO ME. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING BETTER, HIGHER PAYING JOBS TO THE CITY OF STEWART AND IT IS ABOUT JOBS. AND. IT'S ABOUT JOBS THAT PAY WELL, IT'S ABOUT JOBS THAT WHEN A WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A JOB THAT EITHER DOESN'T PAY ENOUGH. OR HAS NO JOB AT ALL WHEN THEY GET THAT GOOD JOB, A JOB AT A PLACE LIKE PASCOE, IT IS LIFE CHANGING. AND IT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ISSE WHEN THEY CAN HAVE THE PRIDE TO GO HOME AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGHTO. UH DEUCE NOT ONLY NOT JUST PAY THE RENT, BUT. AND PUT SOME FOOD ON THE TABLE BUT ACTUALLY GO AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LIFE AS WELL. SO. SO I'M FIRED A ROUND UP THE 20% DENSITY REDUCTION. UM, I I'M FINE WITH THE 5% THAT THE APPLICANT IS OFFERED. UM UH, THE OVERFLOW PARKING UM. THAT FIRST. WAS IT PURPOSE YOU'D REQUESTED. WORKER PARDON? YES, COMMISSIONER ON THERE'S A LINE IF. MR REID, SIR, IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE SITE PLAN, I'LL JUSTIFY THIS CONDITION. AND I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE.
WELL, JUSTIFY EACH AND EVERYONE. AND I'M GONNA TRY TO DO THIS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. OKAY SO PERVIOUS PARKING, THERE'S A LINE OF PARKING SPACES RIGHT NOW FROM THE COSTCO SIDE. IF YOU PULL THE CAR AND WOULD FACE COSTCO BOULEVARD. THAT THAT ENTIRE LINE RUNNING EAST TO WEST AT A MINIMUM, BUT I'VE.
HAVE RAISED THIS WITH THE DEVELOPER. I'VE RAISED POTENTIALLY ASTRO TURF. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE COSTCO WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS MUCH. BUT AT MINIMUM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PERVIOUS. CONCRETE. IS THAT SOMETHING? YOU OKAY? SO WE GOT PERVIOUS CONCRETE ON THE OVERFLOW PARKING. SO WE'RE JUST A LITTLE CHECK. MARK. UM. THE SHADE TREES, A COUPLE DIFFERENT
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KINDS OF SHADE TREES. OAKS OR. BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TREES. I KNOW THAT, UH.WILL BURROW POINTY ANNA'S, BUT I THINK THEY COULD BE DIRTY AND WHEN THEY WHEN THE LEAVES FALL OFF, AND OAK TREES I KNOW, OF COURSE, UM, PROBLEMS WITH PARKING LOTS IS. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT? I DON'T RECALL. WHAT KIND OF TREES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LANDSCAPE.
DIAMONDS I'M GUESSING COMMISSIONER MYERS REMEMBERS BECAUSE HE'S A TREE GUY. YEAH I'M NOT. I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE BUTTONWOOD. IT WON'T REALLY PROVIDE SHADE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS, UM. I MEAN, EVERYONE LOVES REAL POINTY ANNA'S BUT THERE. BECOMING AN INVASIVE SOUTH OF US AND SO THEY MIGHT SEE THAT HAPPENED HERE, TOO. BUT MAYBE THE GUMBO LIMBO. THAT'S A REALLY HURRICANE HARDY TREE GROWS VERY FAST. NATIVE AND UM NOT MUCH SHADE. WELL, NO, IT'S IT CAN BE A SHADE TREE. I MEAN IT. ZACH OF CANOPY AS AH, A, UM. HAS A LIVE LOOK, BUT IT'S A DECENT NATIVE TREE. IF WHAT DID YOU CALL THE COMMISSIONER? GUMBO LIMBO. I WOULD. LISTEN TO YOUR EXPERTISE ON THAT ONE. I'M NOT. I KNOW THAT. I WANT TRUE SHADE TREES IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER, OR WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MR FITZ WATER IS. HELP HELP THE CITY OF STUART WITH OUR OWN NATIVE PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPE PLAN DIDN'T COME BACK. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA MOVE ON BECAUSE JUST CAUSE OF TIME SO FOUNTAINS IN THE LAKES. OKAY, SO WE GOT FOUNTAINS IN THE LEGS. OKAY. SO LATE. NUMBER TWO. THE FANTASY YOU'RE, HAVING CONVERSATIONS AMONG OURSELVES AND LISTENED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S AS THEY DELIBERATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH LAKES LIKE NUMBER TWO. UM. WE ALREADY I THINK WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REMOVE THE FEDS. YES, I JUST. CLARINET LAYING THAT OUT, SO THEY WOULD OKAY SO AS A CONDITION TO SEE THAT. OKAY, THE LAKE SHAPES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU GUYS REFORM. OKAY, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL. OKAY, SO. LET'S SEE CASCO BOULEVARD NEED TO COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME. MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A CONTEST WITH THE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. OKAY? UM. VISUAL FEATURES IS THAT FOR THE FOUNTAIN OF THE CIRCLE THAT'S FOR THE CIRCLE, AND I'M SURE THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT, ANYWAYS. OKAY? I DON'T THE KNOW PHIL. CREDIT I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT. FIRST, EXACTLY WHAT WE. THAT WAS THE 360 ANNOUNCED $10,000 THAT THEY WOULD REMOVE. THAT WAS OK. THAT WAS THE TREE CREDIT. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD WANT THE FILM USING IT FELLOW THE FILTER. OKAY THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING CONFUSED ON THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. AND THE FULL TREE MITIGATION. WE'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND READING. OKAY, SO A MEDICATION PLAY. AND THEN THE STORM WATER, I GUESS REPORTING OKAY, SO. I THINK THAT WE. YOU'RE REALLY COMMISSIONER MATHIS AND THE REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FROM FROM US IS THE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE FIVE VERSUS 20% DENSITY. WHAT IF WE GO TO 10? WELL, I DON'T. CAN YOU DO? I DON'T. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS THE COME UP, THEN. WELL. I'M KIND OF THAT'S SORRY TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT, BUT IT ZOE MY DEAR, WE ARE WOULD AGREE TO ASK THAT YOU CAN ASK IT. OPEN TO HEARING FROM OTHERS. IS THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT'S THE LIST. I THINK I WENT DOWN YOUR WHOLE LIST. YEAH, SHE DID. AND, UM. SO I'M WITH COMMISSIONER MCDONALD ON THE 5. IT'S YOUR BUYER. EVERYTHING ELSE. IS OK. YOU'RE GETTING COMMISSIONER
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WHICH IS GREAT. WE SHOULD NAME THIS ROAD AFTER YOU, I THINK BECAUSE YOU REALLY DID WELL PUSHING. YOU WANTED TO KNOW. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. WE HAVE TO PUSH AS HARD AS WE CAN, BECAUSE WE WORKED FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WELL, EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE AND THEN AROUND. WAS THERE. WERE YOU EXPECTING THE RESPONSE? SO YOU JUST PUT IN WELL? WELL, WE HAVE EMOTION. AND THE SECOND IF YOU AGREED ALL THAT, AND IT WOULD BE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW, OR I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER YES ADMIRE HAS SOME SOME COMMENTS.WELL. NO, WE'VE ALL BEEN HERE SO LONG. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE. IS RICHARDS AND THE TEAM FOR COMING OUT AND IT'S NOT EASY STANDING UP THERE NOT BEING AN EXPERT MM. I THINK YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND DOING THE HARD THING AND I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THE HARD THING TO UM. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT BENEFIT TO THE CITY. CONNECTOR ROAD. IN MY OPINION, ISN'T INCREDIBLE BENEFIT THAT IS OKAY, COOL. I THINK I SIT IN THIS CHAIR AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ON MAJOR ROADWAYS, AND IT'S GOING TO INCREASE CONNECTIVITY AND. CHANGE OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TAXPAYERS DON'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE OR BUILD, AND THAT'S IT BENEFIT.
THERE'S ALSO AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT. HOSKO AS A MAJOR EMPLOYER IS A BENEFIT AND ADDITIONAL HOUSING IS A BENEFIT. SO WHERE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INSINUATIONS ABOUT CLOAK AND DAGGER. YEAH. THE APPLICANT IS DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND WE'RE JUST APPROVING IT LEFT AND RIGHT. I KNOW I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. HAVE RAPED YOU ALL OVER THE COALS, AND I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR, AND THE PUBLIC PROBABLY DOESN'T SEE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL HAPPENED IN MEETINGS. LEADING UP TO THIS POINT, BUT I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ASKED FOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. HELPING FIGHT FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT, TOO, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THIS. THIS PLAN. I HOPE YOU CAN SEE BY NOW APPEARED FULLY FORMED. WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM US. ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. YOU MIGHT ROLL YOUR EYES AT THAT. BUT WE ASKED FOR THAT TREE MITIGATION THING. I TOLD THEM I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR IT. ALMOST. YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO CLAIM A CREDIT SO YOU KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON THIS. UM.
THINK TO GO DOWN YOUR LIST. I YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR POTENTIALLY MORE PERVIOUS BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IN SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. MAYBE IT WAS JUST NEW ASPHALT, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE SOME. OBVIOUS CONCRETE AROUND THERE. IF WE CAN HAVE I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY CUTTING IT CLOSE AS IT IS ON THE PERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS FOR THE OVERALL SITE COUCH IF WE CAN HAVE MORE PERVIOUS MORE THE BETTER IF IT'S RED. WELL, AZIZ, WE DELIBERATE HERE AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR POINTS. UM. ONE THING I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS HERE IS IF. IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, AND THERE'S 5% REDUCTION. THERE IS OPENING FOR US TO GIVE DIRECTION. ON WHETHER IT'S I MEAN, I HEARD YOU STATED EARLIER AND AGAIN TO EVERYONE. THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT A PROJECT. APPEAR OPENLY. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO UM NO. MY INITIAL THOUGHTS WAS, IF THAT WAS THAT I'D PUSH FOR BUILDING BEING REDUCED TO A STORY. AND PARKING SPACES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR 5% DENSITY REDUCTION BEING CONVERTED TO GREEN SPACE. NO, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE DECIDED ON THAT NOW AND WE COULD IF WE'RE GOING FORWARD TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE. OF MORE PERVIOUS AREA ON THE PROPERTY THAN LESS. NO, BUT WOULDN'T YOU SAY IF I MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO EVEN WITH A 20% REDUCTION? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE 1/4 STORY OFF OF EVERY BUILDING. ONE BUILDING TO GIVE HEIGHT VARIATION, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS. WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER? I MEAN, WE'D HAVE THE REDUCED PARKING AND US. WRITER BUILT MORE COMPACT BUILDING
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THAT WOULD STILL BE FOUR STORIES. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REDUCED PARKING AND THE SMALLER BUT YOU HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE. IT WORKS. IT'S LIKE DOUBLE. I AGREE. I AGREE. MAYBE THEY COULD EVEN SCROUNGE UP ENOUGH OPEN SPACE FOR A DOG PARK. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE BENEFIT THE PUBLIC OKAY? THANK YOU. SO COMMISSIONER BRUNER COMMISSIONED MCDONALD. YOU HEARD THE COMMENTS THAT THERE WERE TRYING TO ADD THESE CONDITIONS. SO IF I CAN MAKE IF I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION TO COMMISSIONER BURNER, I'M LISTENING. OKAY, SO. THE ITEMS ROUND UP OVERFLOW THE OVERFLOW PARKING. SHADE TREES. THE FOUNTAIN, THE FENCE LIKE FENCE.THE LAKE SHAPES THE NAME OF THE ROAD. UH THE VISUAL FEATURE FEATURE THE PHIL CREDIT IN THE TREE MITIGATION STORMWATER REPORTING. IF YOU INCLUDE DADDY'S CONDITIONS OF YOUR AND THEN A 5% REDUCTION. AND UNITS ARE AND WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THAT 5% IN THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL BE TURNING IT INTO GREEN SPACE. AND IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH ENOUGH GREEN SPACE TO DO AN AMENITY. SO THAT'D BE PERFECT. WELL, EVERYBODY LOVE THEIR DOGS. SO IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO WOULD YOU INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR MOST OF THE WOULD BE A PUBLIC AMENITY OR BEHIND THE GATE? OKAY, WE'LL FIND A PLACE. FOR I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR INTENT WITH THE VISUAL FEATURE IN THE ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT LANDSCAPING PLAN, I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED ROUNDABOUTS IN MARTIN COUNTY. NO, I WON ON. ON SAVANNAH INTO JENSEN IS QUITE NICE. UM. YOU KNOW? ARE YOU IMAGINING LIKE A SCULPTURE LIKE A I'M SOR JUST NICE, MORE IMAGINING SOMETHING MIMICKING.
ROCKS WITH THE WATER. WATER DRIPPING DOWN AND TRYING TO MIMIC A WETLAND WITH SOME ELEVATION THAT YOU COULD SEE BY CARS. NO, THAT SOUNDS ODD. BUT. SOME SORT OF FUNCTIONAL ART PIECE, AND IT'S UNIQUE. HE'S SAYING THAT HE'LL WORK WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS STUART SO.
VIEW OF CORPORATE ENDURE THOSE CONDITIONS IN PROMOTIONS. MARY. CLERK. DO YOU HAVE THAT? DO YOU HAVE THAT? OKAY, THEN MY SECOND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MATTHEW. THANK YOU. MISSION BURNER. YOU LOOK. OKAY MY TEMPER, SO WE HAVE EMOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND, IT'S BEEN AMENDED. WE HAVE ABOUT NINE OR 10 POINTS THAT ARE. ADDED THIS CONDITIONS WITH SOME QUESTIONS.
DOESN'T YES, YES, I JUST SAY SOMETHING BRIEFLY. DON'T WANT THIS T O DRAG ON TONIGHT AND I TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID TO HEART, BOTH SIDES. ESPECIALLY THAT THE PARTS ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT. BEING BEING PUSHED ON LATE INTO THE NIGHT. WE BEAR A HEAVY BURDEN SITTING UP HERE, THESE DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE DOING IT.
UM AND I KNOW I'VE LOST SLEEP OVER IT. FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I KNOW I'VE ALSO HAD. NO, I FEEL BAD. I HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO EMAILS AS I MADE MYSELF A PROFESSOR ORIGINALLY ON, BUT THIS HAS BEEN WAY OVERWHELMING. UM. WHEN I LOOK AT THE E MAILS AND THE COUNT'S I'VE DONE I SEE.
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THE COSTCO. THE DIFFERENCES NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ALL THE FACTS.
OUR JOB IS TO TRY AND LEARN ALL THE FACTS AND WE HAVE TO TRUST. EXPERT WITNESSES AND ART CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THEM.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE PUSHING A HIDDEN AGENDA. PART OF THEIR JOB IS TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS, WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILDER. ON UP TO INSTRUCT THEM ON THE CODE AND NOT WORK THE CODE AROUND THEM. THAT BEING SAID WHEN I'M UP HERE. I HAVE TO MAKE REALISTIC DECISIONS ON WHAT I THINK THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THE CITIES. THAT'S MY JOB. REALISTIC DECISIONS, AND I'VE EXPERIMENTED WITH DIFFERENT ONES IN THE PAST. MY JOB. OUR JOB UP HERE. TO DELIBERATE AMONGST OURSELVES. AND DO WHAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE CITY'S FUTURE. HOWEVER, THAT DECISION MAY GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MARCELLO, GIVEN SOME MORE
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TELL, DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN OUR REASONING. AGAIN THE EXPLANATION, WHICH WAS I THINK WAS GIVEN BY STAFF A ZEALOUS BUT THE DEVELOPER ON EVEN GOING TO THE DENSITY THAT MR THAT HE BROUGHT UP REALISTICALLY, ONCE THIS EMOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR, YOU'RE OPEN TO BEN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN DELIBERATE THE FINAL DRAW OF WHATEVER YOU GET. OKAY? SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO FINAL PHASE THE THING BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, OKAY? THEY'RE FINE. THANK YOU, MR MASTERSON. I'M GONNA GO STRAIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.FIRST. REMEMBER, THESE ARE ALL IN ORDER BY SPEAKER NUMBER ONE. SPEAKER NUMBER ONE, MR JIMMY SMITH. AND WE HAVE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WE HAVE THE ADDRESS, SO JUST STATE YOUR NAME SPEAK. LOUDLY AND CLEARLY YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE HOLD BACK ANY APPLAUSE OR ANY.
YEARS OUR NAMES. LET'S JUST GET THROUGH THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. JIMMY SMITH. MY NAME IS JIMMY SMELL. SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE, MARTIN, CAN YOU SPEAK UP, SIR? RIGHT INTO THE MY NAME IS JIMMY SMELL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE. MARTIN COUNTY. PRESIDENT AND W C P.
LISTEN TO ALL OF THIS TONIGHT BE INSISTS TO 30. AND, UH, VERY INTERESTING. LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT. THEY'RE HARD CHOICES. LET ME TELL YOU THIS MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT. I DO. SHOP IT BLEACH YOUR TREE. SEARCH ME, ARE YOU A BUSINESS DEAL. I'M A LANDSCAPER. AND MY BARBECUE BENDIS. WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. AND I KNOW TRAFFIC IS BAD EVERYWHERE. FOR THAT ASS. 10 YEARS. I HAVE TO GO TO WEST PALM BEACH. YOU'RE ABOUT A LARGE QUANTITY OF FOOD. TO PROVIDE FOR MY BUSINESS. I HAVE TO GO TOE ST LUCIE COUNTY. I'LL DO ALL THAT TRAFFIC TO BUY FOOD. ALL RIGHT. I DO THAT. IF A WEEK SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. AND I JUST FEEL SO TERRIBLE THAT I HAVE TO TAKE MY MONEY. YEAH. CITIZEN OR STEWARD OF MINE, COUNTY. PURCHASE FOOD FOR ME, AND THEN I HAD TO TAKE MY MONEY AND TAKE IT TO ANOTHER COUNTY AND THEY GET TO BENEFIT FROM. I JUST THINK THAT I KNOW ALL THE US AND THAT YOU'VE GOT TO WORK OUT. BUT WE NEED WE NEED THIS. MINE CAN I HATE GOING TO PALM BEACH TO ALL THAT TRAFFIC. WE NEED THIS THIS COMPANY BECAUSE IN MY COMMUNITY WE HAVE BEEN IN WE'VE BEEN HIT HARD. WAS OUR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO GET A JOB. IT HAS BEEN HIT HARD FOR US. 30 YEARS AGO, GETTING A RECORD. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD AN ATTORNEY AND HE HAD TO SET OUT. FOR THE CHARGES THAT THEY WERE INNOCENTS JUST TO GET HOME TO THE FAMILY, AND THEN WE GOT A RECORD. SOME CAME FELONIOUS AND THEY CAN'T GET A JOB. IN COSTCO IS OFTEN. JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT RETURNING CITIZENS. A STONE IN THE VIDEO INTERVIEWS AND I'M HOLDING ACCOUNT FOR THAT. IN FACT, YOU DID. THEY COULD GET A JOB AT $16 OUT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE MIND CARRIAGES MADE $89 MY PEOPLE I WANT ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE, BUT MY PEOPLE DON'T MAKE NO MONEY. CAME OUT BIG 60 10. PEOPLE LIVE IN ONE HOUSE. TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING. HIM. Y'ALL GOT OPPORTUNITY. I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY OFFER WE GAGA ALL DAY LONG. BUT WHEN YOU GOT A FAMILY AND YOU CAN'T FEED YOUR FAMILY.
NOT BEING YOU, SAID 1963. WOULDN'T MIND KIND OF HOT ONE HOUSE SCHOOL. I SEE IT ALL. SO I'M ACTUALLY YOU CITY. YOU SAID THE COMMISSIONER'S TONIGHT TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OR WHAT? BASED ON BEST FOR THE CITY. JUST TO VOTE COSTCO IN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR LAWRENCE CONE. THREE MINUTES, SIR. YES MA'AM. MY NAME IS LAWRENCE CONE. I LIVE IN STUART. GOOD EVENING CITY COMMISSION BOARD MEMBERS, MAYOR CLARKE ADMINISTRATORS STAFF IN MY CITY OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY NEIGHBORS. MY FAMILY VOTES YEA FOR COSTCO WELCOME. I HOPE NO, THIS IS EASIER. KUDOS TO YOUR TEAM. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! YOU ANSWERED SO MANY QUESTIONS, AND WHEN. SO FAR OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT SHOWS IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DID. NEW GUYS CAN SEE. IT ALSO. POSITIVE SUPPORT TAX REVENUE
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JOBS, PRICES NOT ONLY FOR FOOD AND PRODUCTS GUESS TO PROXIMITY TO OTHER COSTCO'S AND BJS. IT'S A WIN WIN TRAFFIC TO ME, MY FAMILY. IT'S A NON ISSUE. YOU'VE GOT. YOU'VE GOT CANCER PARKWAY, WHICH HAS BEEN REPORTED TO ONLY BE USED AT ONE THIRD OF ITS CAPACITY. RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT WAS REPORTED, SUPPOSEDLY FROM THE TRANSPORTATION OF STUART.SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE. JUST LIKE IN PALM CITY. SOMETHING WAS BUILT THERE WHERE THEY WANTED TO BUILD A COSTCO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HOUSING, ETCETERA. COSTCO DESIGNS ARE FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL. ONCE LIVED IN A TRANSIENT COMMUNITY. MARTIN'S CROSSING TOWN HOMES RENTS STARTED THEIR $1400 A MONTH AND THEN WENT UP OVER 1800 ARE STILL INCREASING UP THERE FOR THE TOWN HOMES, VERY TRANSIENT. PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT. I ENDED UP BUYING A HOUSE ELSEWHERE IN STUART AND LOWERED MY COSTS. HOME PRICES ARE HIGH RENTAL PRICES. I WHO CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. HOW CAN A YOUNG AFFORD TO LIVE HERE? THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL JUST NOW. TONIGHT THE BOARD PAST CHANGES TO THE DOWNTOWN STUART TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL OUTDOOR DINING ATMOSPHERE. CRB 0 TO 2021. CRB IS CONCERNED WITH VERSATILITY. THE ABILITY TO ADAPT OR BE ADAPTED TO MANY DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS OR ACTIVITIES. COSTCO'S DESIGN IS PERFECT VERSATILITY. TASTE AND CHANGE HAPPENS, HOUSING AND QUALITY JOBS. PEOPLE ARE COMING TO STUART. ALSO PLEASE CONSIDER. I'VE HEARD THAT YOU SAY THAT THERE'S AH LARGE SUPPORT FOR US FOR COSTCO HERE. MY FAMILY LOVES COSTCO. WE HATE TRAVELING DOWN THE WEST PALM BEACH. WE DON'T CARE THAT THE COMMUNITY BUILDS UP. AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS COSTCO. BUT JUST DON'T LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE OPPOSED AND FOUR ALSO LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, A MAJORITY THAT SUPPORTS THE COSTCO IDEA. UM.
DON'T ALLOW COSTCO TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE. MY FAMILY VOTES. YEA OSCO. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. EVERY GREER IS DEBBIE STILL HERE? IS DEBRA GREER ON THE MONDAY ON THE INTERNET, MR PAUL HAVE SOMEBODY. 772 OH, NUMBER ENDS WITH 11 30. BECAUSE YOU TRY THEM, SIR. EVERY GREAT CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I DO. YES MA'AM. PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR COMMENT THREE MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR AND OUR CITY COMMISSION AND THANK YOU TO THE COSTCO TEEN AND EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN HERE TONIGHT AND I AM A RESIDENT OF MARTIN COUNTY, A NATIVE FLORIDIAN. AND HAS SEEN MUCH GROWTH IN MARTIN COUNTY, AND IT'S HAPPENING. SO WHY SHOULDN'T THE CITY OF STUART BENEFIT? CLASSICO OFFERS QUALITY PRODUCTS, SERVICES AND JOBS AND SUPPORTS OUR LOCAL CHARITIES AND MAKING IT AN IDEAL FIT FOR THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE AN EXTREMELY GIVING COMMUNITY. COSTCO HIRES LOCALLY AND MOSTLY FULL TIME WITH YOUR EMPLOYEES, STARTING AT $16 AN HOUR AND EVEN THEIR PART TIME EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HEALTH CARE BENEFITS AND FOUR OH ONE K AFTER BEING THERE FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY OFFER RETIREMENT PLANS, FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE PAID TIME OFF, SICKLY, EVEN FREE EXECUTIVE MEMBERSHIPS. HE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE EMPLOYEES ROOM GROW, PARTICULARLY IN ITS ORGANIZATION. HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES MORE THAN THAN ENOUGH, IT'S AMONG THE TOP 5% OF CORPORATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL, CULTURAL AND GENDER DIVERSITY AND SUPPORT. DID YOU KNOW SINCE 1988 COSTCO'S RAISED MORE THAN $100 MILLION FOR CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS NATIONWIDE? SUPPORT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE FEEDING AMERICA. AMERICAN RED CROSS THE THURGOOD MARSHALL COLLEGE FUND AND THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUNDS. OVER 20 YEARS, COSTCO IS RAISED MORE THAN $60 MILLION IN SCHOLARSHIPS FOR
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UNREPRESENTATIVE MY ATTORNEYS AND INVESTED $25 MILLION IN THE BLACK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. SO WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT EVERYONE? JOBS THEIR CHARITABLE GIVING. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOP THERE AND KEEP OUR TAX DOLLARS HERE. LOCALLY IN MARTIN COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. IT'S THE WATER LINE. ARE YOU HERE? GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER'S MY NAME IS WALTER LLOYD AND I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF CAPANNA POINT ACROSS CANADA HIGHWAY CLOSE TO THE PROXIMAL PROPOSED SITE.PLEASE REJECT THIS APPLICATION TO ASSIGN CP DO THE ZONING AND NEIGHBORHOODS SPECIAL DISTRICT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO THE PROPERTY BEING CONSIDERED HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE THOUSANDS OF AFFECTED RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN PROXIMITY TO THE AFFECTED AREAS OF CANADA HIGHWAY BETWEEN 95 TO THE SOUTH AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO THE NORTH AND WHO HAVE INVESTED THEMSELVES AND THE RESOURCE IS IN THIS COMMUNITY BASED ON THE CULTURE AND HISTORY, WHICH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FROM THE START. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STILL REFLECTS MUCH OF THIS BEARD OF THIS HISTORY AND CULTURE, AS IS NOTED BY THE VERY FIRST GOLD STATEMENT A, WHICH READS, MAINTAIN AN ENHANCED STUART'S QUALITY OF LIFE. NATURAL BEAUTY AND SMALL TOWN WATERFRONT CHARACTER. IT'S STABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ITS STATUS AS A COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL HAVE FOR GREATER MARKET COUNTY. OBJECTIVE SIX GOES ON TO SAY NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY ESTABLISHED REGISTER RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM INTRUSION OF COMPETING INTENSE USES THROUGH ADHERENTS TO THE FUTURE. LAND USE MAP, DENSITIES AND INTENSITY IS ESTABLISHED. IN THE FUTURE LAND USED ETCETERA.
IN FACT, THERE HAS BEEN A RECENT DELIBERATE EFFORT TO MODIFY THE LONG STANDING PLANS FOR THE BENEFIT OF SPECIAL INTERESTS FROM THE INCEPTION OF THIS PRODUCT TO CIRCUMVENT PROTECTION FROM INTRUSION OF COMPETING INTENSE USES. WHICH FOR THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AFFECTED AREAS, WILL RESULT IN OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS, CERTAINLY LESS NATURAL BEAUTY AND SMALL TOWN WATERFRONT CHARACTER. IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO ITS STABLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. LOCATED IN THE AFFECTED AREA. THE AGENDA REQUEST PRESIDENT BY THE L. P. A. MISSED SEVERAL ISSUES. THEY WERE NOT GIVEN FINAL SITE PLANS WITH SCHOOL CAPACITY ANALYSIS. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS? NO CLARIFICATION IF THE TRAFFIC STUDIES INCLUDED KNOWN EXISTING PROPOSED FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS VERY UNCLEAR, EVEN TONIGHT, NO QUANTIFIABLE TAX BENEFITS OR LIABILITIES WERE PRESENTED. AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES. PLEASE DON'T ALLOW RECENTLY MODIFIED LETTER OF THE LAW TO SUPERSEDE THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW FOR THE WELL BEING OF OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATIONAL POTENTIAL. INSTEAD, POLICE SUPPORT. ARE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL TOWN WATERFRONT CHARACTER. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF COSTCO OR THE BENEFITS. IT'S ABOUT THE LOCATION. LET'S DO A BETTER JOB TO FIND A BETTER PLACE FOR THEM. SIMPLE. WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT HIM IN A BETTER PLACE? THANK YOU, SIR.
BOY, BRADFIELD. EXCUSE ME. AVOID BRADFIELD WITH ANY EYE SOUTH COAST AND HAD A BUNCH OF NOTES. BUT I THINK. JUST LISTEN ALL THIS. I'M THE ONE THAT ANNEXED THIS PROPERTY WAS MY IDEA. MET WITH THE CITY. I DID IT. PRIOR TO THAT, BACK IN THE NINETIES, WHEN OVER 1000 ACRES WAS ANNEXED. THE CURRENT COMMISSION WANTED TO DO IT AS A BEAUTY. SO THERE WERE HOLLOW PD'S WITH NO ZONING. THIS COMMISSION AT THE TIME WANTED TO DO IT TO CONTROL IT. THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DONE. AND LATER ON. I THINK I JUST FIVE ANNEXATIONS.
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE DID THE SAME THING WE BROUGHT HIM IN WITH NO ZONING. JUST A BEAUTY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE WHEN I APPROACHED THE OWNERS AND SAID. THIS IS A GREAT SIGHT FOR ANNEXATION WE LOOKED AT AS AN INFILL SITE. IT'S SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT.
UH YOU KNOW, AND WE FELT THAT SINCE IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, THEY MENTIONED THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT TO THE EAST. SHE WAS PART OF THAT ANNEXATION, SO. BASICALLY WHAT WE LOOKED AT. IT IS WHAT A GREAT PLACE I MENTIONED TO THE CITY OF THE TIME. IF COSTCO WASN'T GOING TO PALM CITY, THERE'S A PERFECT SPOT. YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE. YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IT. SO IN OUR EYES. THIS IS THE PLACE WE WERE WHERE IT
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SHOULD GO. AND BUT ANYWAY THAT YOU CAME UP ABOUT THE ANNEXATION, SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW THE CITY OF THAT INTENTLY. AND CONTROL THE PROCESS. THANK YOU, SIR. MR BRIAN JOHNSON. BRIAN JOHNSON. ARE YOU IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE OUTSIDE. ARE YOU ON THE LINE ON ZOOM BY ZOOM OR BY PHONE. THANK YOU, SIR. THREE MINUTES. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. YOU'RE ON THE RECORD. MY NAME IS BRIAN JOHNSON. I'M 16 YEAR VETERAN AT MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. UM. I FULLY SUPPORT COSTCO 110% I'M NOT AS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT $1500 TO $2000 RENT. NO TEACHER I KNOW CAN AFFORD THAT. NO FIREFIGHTER. NO POLICE OFFICER CAN AFFORD THAT. I AM 110% BEHIND COSTCO. IF. THE PROJECT HAS TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE APARTMENT, SOME IN FAVOR OF IT. I DO THINK THAT THIS IS NEEDED BY MARTIN COUNTY AND STUART. I ALSO LIVE. NOT ONLY DO I WORK RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY, I LIVE AROUND THE CORNER, THE CROSSINGS. AND SO IT'LL AFFECT ME. PROBABLY ALMOST AS MUCH AS ANYBODY. UM, SINCE I LIVE. A ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. SO, UM BUT I DO WANT TO SO. AS AS I'M GONNA END UP WITH THIS. WE AS MARTIN COUNTY AND STUART NEED TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR TEACHERS FOR FIREFIGHTERS. MEDICAL WORKERS AND SO ON, AND SO ON. THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE, BUT TO END UP I DO SUPPORT THIS, AND I HOPE THAT IT'S APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE A ROGER ON SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LAST NAME. IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE US YOUR LAST THING. WE ALREADY HAVE YOUR ADDRESS. ROGER SONNY. WE LIVED IN TEXAS OR 40 YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE FULL TIME IT AS A DANCER, SO I'M NOT THAT HALF PERCENT, I GUESS. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT INCREASE IN MY BUSINESS IN MY INVESTMENT. I HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THE CORPORATIONS. THE COMPANIES OUR SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE TOP. OUR SCHOOL IS THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO THE. CUSTOMER BUT PASSPORTS SUPER BEST WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYEES. I THINK WE ALL NEED. TO GET OUT OFF OVER COMFORTS ON ME. ME ME IS ENOUGH. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE GUY WHO'S GONNA GET THAT JOB. HE'S GOING TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY. HE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO FEW THINGS.IF I HAVE TO SUFFER. AND MORE CARS IN FRONT OF ME. 20 CARS BEHIND ME, SO BE IT. AND FOR MY ENVIRONMENTALIST FRIENDS. HANDS OFF THOUSANDS OFF. GALLONS OFF. GAS WILL BE SAVED BECAUSE WE'LL BE STOPPED GOING DOWN TOE THERE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES WILL NOT BE DRIVEN. SO LET'S NOT JUST LOOK FOR ME. ME ME, OKAY? YES I MAY SUFFER. BUT LET'S LOOK AT FOR THE GREATER GOOD. THIS THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT ELECTED. YOU LOVE THIS IT ZAHARA BILL JOB. OKAY, BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT BUT BUT YOU LOVE AS YOU SAID, YOU LOVE YOU LOVE YOU LOVE THIS PLACE SO. WON'T JUST THINK I'M I'M GONNA BE THE ELECTED OR WHAT? THE REASON IS BECAUSE WHAT IS GOOD FOR MY PEOPLE? PEOPLE COME FIRST. YES I LOVE ANIMALS. YES, THIS THING BUT PEOPLE, PEOPLE COME FIRST. SO I HOPE THAT YOU GIVE COSTCO ABSOLUTELY YES, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A BETTER COMPANY OR THAT THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS THE STEWARD AND THE WHOLE THIS AREA UNLESS YOU ARE MR SONNY'S THAT ESSAY, AND I. WELL, HOW ABOUT WE SAY S A EACH AND I OKAY.
THANK YOU, SIR. BUT IT IS KIND OF SILENT. YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AMY PRITCHARD. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. AMY PRITCHARD. I LIVE IN ROCKY POINT. THE VERY FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT WHO SPOKE WHO WASN'T TALKING ABOUT HOSKO TALKED ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC. SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EMANCIPATION EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE AND WAS
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THANKING YOU. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FEEL IS MISSING FROM ALL OF THIS IS THE COMMUNICATION. EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO, AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING. I LOVE COSTCO. I HAVE A CARD. I'VE BEEN GOING THERE SINCE 2000 AND SEVEN. TO US NOT TO WEST PALM. BUT BEING A MEMBER. UM. THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.JUST COSTCO SO THEY WERE FOR IT. AND I TALKED TO THEM AND I TOLD THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND THEY WANTED MORE INFORMATION. YOU SAID TONIGHT THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE FIVE OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN TOGETHER. YOU NEED MORE TIME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. I WANT COSTCO HERE, TOO. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE LOCATION. AND THE THIRD THING I WANT TO SAY IS THE SLICE OF PARADISE AND HEAVEN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SLOWLY BEING CHIPPED AWAY WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SO I'M ASKING YOU TO JUST WAIT. TAKE SOME TIME AND GET IT RIGHT. PUT IT IN A PLACE WHERE THERE ISN'T SO MUCH GOING ON. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. DINA JAMES. DINE AND JAMES, ARE YOU HERE IN THE ROOM AT CITY HALL OR YOU ONLINE. THIS JAMES MAY HAVE LEFT. WE WILL YIELD HER TIME BY OPERATION OF LAW. IT'S THE R. J. POSEY. IT'S THE R. J. POSEY ARE YOU IN THE ROOM OR ONLINE? YIELDED MR JOSEPH COOPER. IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY. JOSEPH COOPER, BORN RACE HERE'S TO A PHOTO. SMALL BUSINESS ON J CONSTRUCTION GROUP. COMING TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO BRING THE MIXED USE DESTINATIONS SORT OF SIGHT, NOT JUST ABOUT COSTCO, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW COMMUNITY TRENDING NOW. HE HAD A MIXED USE SPACE WHEN YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE CAN LIVE WORK. AND ALSO PLAY AND DEVELOPMENT WILL BECOME COMMUNITY CENTERS. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT LAY OUT THE DESIGN HAS BEEN PUT FORTH. ASSES.
THERE'S THE. RECIPE TALKED ABOUT THE JOB CREATION. WHAT, WHEREAS SOME OF THE RENTS LEVEL'S A LITTLE BIT SPIKY, BUT IT'S STILL A STAR IS TO START IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE JOB CREATION WITH $16 A NOW OUR START AND YOU BUILD UPON THAT YOU HAVE TO, BECAUSE AS A GENTLEMAN JUST JUST BEFORE ME TALKED ABOUT YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT. AZAD GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
I DO WELL. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE THAT'S NOT DOING AS WELL AND TRY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND TRY TO BE INCLUSIVE OF GETTING FOLKS OPPORTUNITIES AND A BETTER BETTER SHOT AT LIFE. GET BEING UP WITH MOBILE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, AND HOPEFULLY THAT. WELL WE'LL GET WE'LL GET A POSSIBLE COMING TO SOME DESTINATION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. DENNIS CURVE A. GOOD UH VICH DENNIS SKIRT A. AT PRESENT, WHEN CALLED WE WILL TAKE THAT TIME. THIS ISN EDGAR SNEED A GIRL. HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WAS NOT HERE AT ALL? OKAY? HE WAS HERE. OKAY? MR SCUSE GARY SCUSE. MISTER GERE SCHOOLS. NOT HERE. NO ONE ONLINE, MR PAUL. CASSIE MARS. CASSIE MARS. NOT ONLINE. KATHERINE MARTINEZ. KATHERINE MARTINEZ. LINDA HEART WEAK. LINDA HEART WEAK. NOT ONLINE. HIM, HUTCH. JIM HATS. DARCY BRAYS. BREATH, DARCY BRAS. ROBERT LANGEVIN. YOU LOVE. B R A Z DARCY. AND THEN MR LANG GIVEN YOU LOVE YEAH, I SAW HER AGAIN. MARY ALICE, ROLLIE. YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. OH MY NAME IS MARY ALICE RALLY AND ON THE SECRETARY OF THE DELLA BAHIA CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION OF 55,
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PLUS DEVELOPMENT OF 303 CONDOS LOCATED ON CANTER HIGHWAY. I'M HERE, REPRESENTING NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS DELLA BAHIA, BUT ALL THOSE WHO LIVE ALONG CANNER. WE AGREE WITH THE INTERVENER THAT THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE ALL LOVE COSTCO AND I BECAME A COSTCO MEMBER, THE 19 NINETIES. WHAT YOU ARE MISSING IS OUR OPPOSITION TO THE LOCATION THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS PROJECT. COSTCO WOULD BE WELCOMED IN THIS AREA JUST IN ANOTHER LOCATION, PREFERABLY ONE IS CLOSER TO THE TURNPIKE. I 95 OR LONG US ONE WHERE THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. TRAFFIC TO THIS PROJECT WILL GENERATE WILL IMPACT EVERYONE LIVING ALONG CANNER WITH 398 NEW APARTMENTS, MOST OF WHICH WILL PROBABLY HOUSE TWO CARS. NOT 1.7. THAT MEANS THAT ALMOST 800 MORE CARS. WE'LL BE USING CANTER HIGHWAY TO ENTER AND EXIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT. ADD TO THAT NUMBER. THE NUMBER OF CARS CAN TRAVELING TO COSTCO AND THE COSTCO GAS PUMPS, AND IT IS THE NIGHTMARE WAITING TO HAPPEN. I'VE SENT ALL OF YOU A PICTURE OF THE TRAFFIC BACKED UP AT MONTEREY IN CANTOR AT FIVE P.M. ON APRIL 28TH 2021. SOMETIMES IT TAKES THREE CYCLES OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, AND THIS IS EVEN AFTER THE SEASONAL RESIDENTS HAVE GONE BACK NORTH. THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BY A ROURKE ENGINEERING. BEEN PLANNING EVEN STATED QUOTE THE EXISTING MAJOR STREET VOLUMES FAR EXCEED THE MAXIMUM VOLUME FOR SEVERAL HOURS OF THE DAY. END. QUOTE FAR EXCEED THE MAXIMUM VOLUME FOR SEVERAL HOURS OF THE DAY. IF YOU THINK A NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM YOU WERE WRONG, SINCE THAT WILL ONLY BACK UP THE TRAFFIC ON CANDOR EVEN MORE. YOUR STUDY ALSO STATED THAT QUOTE THERE SHOULD BE NO RESTRICTIONS ON DELIVERY HOURS FOR THE RETAIL BULK MERCHANDISE, AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SERVICES BUILDING AND FUELING FACILITY AND QUOTE. SO THAT MEANS THE DELIVERY TRUCKS WILL BE COMING DAY AND NIGHT, GENERATING MORE NOISE AND CAUSING A HAZARD FOR THE MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO WALK ALONG CANNER.MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS PROJECT WILL CHANGE THE CITY OF STUART, WHICH NO LONGER BE A QUAINT CITY KNOWN FOR A SMALL TOWN FEEL AND OPEN SPACES. WE WILL BE JUST LIKE THE COUNTIES TO THE SOUTH OF US WERE OVER. DEVELOPMENT IS RUN AMOK. AS CITY COMMISSIONERS. YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHO VOTED YOU IN. FOR WHOM YOU WORK, AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT, AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE LIVING ALONG CANTOR HIGHWAY. PLEASE VOTE NO AND FIND ANOTHER LOCATION MORE SUITABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND BY THE WAY, NO ONE CAME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO SPEAK TO ANYONE AT DELLA BAHIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRAD PAUL UP. GRANDPA LIKE 30 40 SOUTH CANADA HIGHWAY, UM, IRRIGATION CONTRACTOR FOR BEN. I LIVE MOVED ACROSS THE STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET 41 YEARS AGO I PURCHASED 37 YEARS AGO. UM TRAFFIC WAS TERRIBLE.
TELL THE VETERANS MEMORIAL BRIDGE OPEN NOW. IT SEEMS LIKE TWO MINUTES OF NOTHING AND ONE MINUTE OF SOME TRAFFIC. NOT EVEN THE THIRD LINE FALL. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS BECAUSE I'M SELFISH AND THERE IS I'VE HAD SEVERAL MANY, MANY MOSQUITO AUDITS BY MARTIN COUNTY AND.
WHAT LENDS A GREAT FOR A LOT OF THINGS, BUT. HAD MOSQUITOES LIKE THE SIZE OF BIRDS, AND THEY'RE ALL FROM THE FRESH WATER. MM HMM. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN PORN GOBS OF MONEY INTO IT. YOU MENTIONED VERY OUT SALES. UM IN WE'RE HOLDING ONTO OUR SHORELINE WERE ACTUALLY KEEPING WATER. ON THAT SIDE OF CANDOR THAT HAS A WAY OF SUBTERRANEAN CAVERNS THAT COME UNDER OUR PROPERTIES, AND THEY SPEW UP. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A LOT. WAS 14 ACRES OF WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL. THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT IN THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION RESERVED THAT WE ALL VOTED ON. HAD 14 PROPERTIES HERE. NINE COGNACS NUMBER. ONE WHERE YOU GOING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO COME IN HERE AND TAKE THAT HUMONGOUS PARCEL AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT? BECAUSE IN MY 41 YEARS. HAVEN'T SEEN A THING. AND FOR THOSE THE THING ABOUT AGRICULTURAL. HOME DEPOT. MARTIN SQUARE MALL WAS AG THE WHOLE TOWN WAS SAYING. THANK YOU. AND PLEASE APPROVE THIS, AND THESE GUYS HAVE GOTTEN ALL MY MAILINGS. ALL MY LETTERS.
I'VE TALKED TO THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I'M SEE ANYONE ELSE WAITING IN LINE. ESPECIALLY FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR ELLEN RAMIELE. ELLEN LOOSE, ROMMEL. SHE ONLINE, MR PAUL. WE WILL YIELD HER TIME. JOANNE CULLIGAN. THE ONE CULLIGAN. IS SHE ONLINE?
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IT'S A LARRY HALL. LARRY HOLE. SEE ON LIFE. JENNA FIRST SWISH. TRIANGULAR. ARTIST LOOK LATER, OKAY. WRITTEN IN HASTE. BY JENNIFER SCHWEDLER. HI. I LIVE AT THE CROSSING, SO I'LL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED AS WELL. AND I WOULD LOVE A COSTCO. BUT NOT HERE. THERE'S ALREADY THE COSTCO, THE APARTMENT, THE STRIP MALL, THE GAS STATION, A PUBLIC POOL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, COUNTY OFFICES, AND THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THERE'S ALREADY FIVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA TO MOBILE HOMES, VILLAGES, TOWN HOMES, A HUGE SCHOOL HEALTH CLINIC, THREE MEMORY CARE FACILITIES AND ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NEXT TO COSTCO. IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ALL WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE. MY COMPLEX ALONE HAS 350 APARTMENTS. THERE'S 12 AND THREE BEDROOMS. LET'S JUST ROUND AND SAY EVERYBODY'S GOT TWO CARS BECAUSE SOME OF THE THREE BEDROOMS HAVE FOUR CARS WERE GOING AROUND AND SEE, TOO.SO THAT'S 600 CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF ONE COMPLEX, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE OTHER APARTMENTS. UNDER THE YOUNG CALLED BEING APPROVED OR IMPENDING ACROSS THE STREET AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL BRIDGE. CANDOR WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A COMMERCIAL AREA. IT'S SIX LANES, BUT IT'S GOT LIMITED TURN ACCESS AS IT IS AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE STATED ONE.
GRAPHICALLY IS NOT GOING TO HELP AND IT'S DEFINITELY A NIF ECT ON WILLOUGHBY AND INDIAN IN FACT I REQUESTED FROM THE TOWN. ON ADJUSTMENT TO AN AREA NEARBY AND LUCAS LAMBERT REPLIED, SAYING THAT SOUTH EAST INDIAN STREET I'M SORRY, QUOTE SOUTHEAST INDIA STREET AND SOUTHEAST WILL BE BOULEVARD IS ALREADY CONGESTED AND STRAINED. THESE REASONS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING WILL NOT SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OFF YOUR REQUEST AT THE MEDIAN OPENING.
THAT WAS BACK IN NOVEMBER, AND THEY CLOSED IT FIRE CROSSED IN DECEMBER. YOUR PEOPLE SAID THAT IT WAS ALREADY CONGESTED AND STRAINED AT WILLOUGHBY AND INDIAN. THERE'S A PERFECT SPOT DOWN SOUTH. OFF. WITH EXCELLENT ACCESS VIA COVE AND SALERNO FROM THE TURNPIKE FROM THE 95 2 GIANT EMPTY LOT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST 18 YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN THERE EMPTY NEAR GRANT PARK AND US WANT. THERE'S AN EMPTY RESIDENTS, AN EMPTY RESTAURANT THAT'S SITTING THERE THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED WITHIN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
IT'S ALSO MUCH EASIER TRAFFIC, THERE'S ONLY ONE RESIDENTS. RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE ACROSS THE STREET SPRING TREE. IT'S ASKING BETTER ACCESSIBLE FROM HOBE SOUND, PORT SALERNO. IN ALL THE AREAS SOUTH NORTH OF HERE. THERE'S ONLY ONE RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT AND YOU TALK ABOUT WANTING TO BRING BUSINESSES TO STUART. AND YET THERE'S A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES CLOSED AND IN THIS DIRECT AREA ON INDIA STREET ALONE, THERE'S A 22,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SPACE, 25% OF WHICH WAS EMPTY IN THIS BUILDING. 2006 AND IT'S STILL EMPTY.
LIVED IN ENGLAND FOR THREE YEARS, I CAME BACK DIDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE STUART ANYMORE FROM 2000 AND 16 2019. THE CHANGES. THERE'S ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE AREA THAT YOU ARE GONNA BE CLOSING, THANKS TO POTENTIALLY FOR COSTCO THAT WAS DIRECTLY BE IMPACTED. THANK YOU. MECHANICS CABINETRY ALL THOSE OTHER AREAS AND YOU TALK ABOUT WANTING BUSINESSES. BUT. YOU'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SMALLEST. THANK YOU. RON DENNIS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS I'M RISING IN SUPPORT OF COSTCO AND MONITORING MY NEIGHBORS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY YES. FOR COSTCO MORE THAN A 2 TO 1 RATIO AND I'VE BEEN MONITORING SINCE THIS STARTED. BUT. OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE OPPOSITION. I HAVE HEARD THEIR OPPOSITION CONCERNS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. TOO MANY HOMES TO LARGER FOOTPRINT AFFECTING GREEN COSTCO WILL RUIN OUR SMALL TOWN TRANQUILITY. IN MY OPINION, THEY FAILED TO CONSIDER THE POSITIVES. MY THOUGHTS ARE AS FOLLOWS AS TO HEAVY TRAFFIC.
WHY SHOULD MARTIN BE PENALIZED? WHY ARE WE FORCED TO DRIVE? IN MY CASE, IT'S AN HOUR TRIP TO GO HALF ON HOUR TO LEAVE THE COUNTY TO GO EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH TO GET SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTS. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY US WANTED SOME HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BECAUSE WE
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HAVE TO GO UP THERE TO GET EVERYTHING. ASSED, FAR AS. FORCING NOT ONLY JUST THE TRAFFIC BUT ALSO FORCING US TO SPEND OUR DOLLARS OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY. THAT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. LET ME NOT SEE HOW THE HEAVY TRAFFIC WILL BE ALLEVIATED BY PICKING A GOOD CENTRALIZED LOCATION. THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION IN BETWEEN BOTH BOMB CITY AND A STAND AND STUART. AS TOO MUCH HOUSING. LOW INCOME HOUSING IS DESPERATELY NEEDED HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY, ACCORDING TO THE MLS SYSTEM. THIS WAS AS A 3 30 TODAY, THERE'S ONLY 137 HOMES UNDER $250,000. CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN ALL OF MARTIN COUNTY. SO WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT PROBLEM. BUT. WE GOTTA BUILD SOME MORE HOMES. THIS SHORT. THE SHORTAGE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED SERVICE WORKERS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT COMMUTING TRAFFIC, THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. MOST OF THE RESIDENTS, THEY'RE LIVING UP IN PORT ST LUCIE, AND THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN HERE COMMUTING. THAT'S REASON WHY YOU GOT. SO MUCH HEAVY TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF AT DIFFERENT TIMES. PEOPLE BEING REPORTING TO WORK AS TO ITS EFFECTS ON GREEN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT THINKS THAT THIS FOOTPRINT IS TOO LARGE. THEO GOOGLE EARTH. TAKE A LITTLE MARTIN COUNTY WERE ONE OF THE GREENEST COUNTIES I'VE EVER SEEN. ESTHER. TRANQUILITY TRANQUILITY. EVERYBODY WANTS TREND QUALITY. AT WHAT POINT SHOULD WE MANDATE A TIME WORK? I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE THAT CAME HERE 50 YEARS WE'RE HERE 50 YEARS AGO. THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T APPRECIATE US COMING HERE. BUT YOU KNOW IT.PROSPERITY YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME. IT'S A. BENEFIT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, WE REALLY SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORCE OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO LEAVE OUR COUNTY BECAUSE WE DON'T OFFER THE AMENITIES. THAT WE ALL SEEK AND WANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR MICHAEL CRAIG. MICHAEL CRAIG, IF YOU'RE HERE OR ONLINE. LIKE TO HAVE YOUR COMMENT. AT PRESENT. WELL, MOTHER, FERRO. WELL, MOTHER PHARAOH. NOT PRESENT. LINDA PHARAOH. IN THE FAIR. ANOTHER LINE, MR PAUL. LAWS. BRISCOE. LIES, BRISCOE. AT PRESENT, NOT ONLINE. LORD IS A TERRIBLE.
LORD, THIS A TERRIBLE. NOT PRESENT, NOT ONLINE. MARGARET GOLDIE. AND GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MA'AM. MORNING. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR BEING SO DILIGENT AND DOING YOUR HOMEWORK AND ALSO. TO THE BUILDER DEVELOPER FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD. FIRST OF I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT A NIMBY. NOT IN MY BACKYARD WAS NOT MY MANTRA. I MOVED HERE ABOUT A HOME HERE IN THE 19 EIGHTIES, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. THEN IT'S STILL IS BEAUTIFUL WHEN I WANTED TO STAY BEAUTIFUL. WE TALK ABOUT COSTCO. I'M NOT AGAINST COSTCO. I THINK COSTCO'S WONDERFUL IF THEY ARE PAYING EMPLOYEES AND CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE THEY DO A DECENT JOB, BUT HANDLING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND BENEFITING THEIR EMPLOYEES. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE APARTMENT'S SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH DENSITY. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MATHESON FOR YOUR DILIGENCE BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY HAVE SHOWN ME TONIGHT THAT YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOU'VE ASKED A LOT OF VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. BUT AS FAR AS THE DENSITY GOES, YOU KNOW IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MARTIN COUNTY IS REALLY LACKING. AND I HAVE YET TO SEE. ANYTHING REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER MATHESON SUGGESTED, IS TO REDUCE THE DENSITY ON THAT BY NOT 5% BUT SOMEWHERE CLOSER TO THE 20. I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER POSTPONING THIS DECISION UNTIL FURTHER INVESTIGATION AND A MORE DEEPER DIVE INTO THE FAX AND THE INFORMATION IS DONE PROPERLY, SO THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY CAN FEEL THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S. DID THE BEST THAT THEY POSSIBLY COULD DO FOR THE RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ROBERTS EXACTLY. I CAN'T. READ THIS, BUT IT'S AS
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IN. WELL S WHY J. E. GO ON ONLINE, MR PAUL. THANK YOU. ROBERT ON CANADA HIGHWAY 3001 CANNOT HIGH WAVE YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. JENNIFER SNYDER. WAS YOU COME IN. I TRIED. CAN YOU SPEAK? SPELL YOUR LAST THING WHEN YOU COME, SIR. LISTEN, WHY DO YOU HEAR? I AGREE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THERE'S NO ARE THERE? YEAH, THERE IS WHAT RIGHT MY NAME ALL THIS TIME. YEAH. I AGREE WITH THE INTERVENER. THANK Y'ALL TO HARTFIELD. WRONG SPOT. WRONG PLACE THAT'S ON.IT'S LATE. Y'ALL HAVE A NICE NIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR JENNIFER SNYDER. THIS IS PRINTED NICE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE INTERVIEW DID ER DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THE RESEARCH. AND UM I HOPE YOU WILL HAVE DONE YOUR RESEARCH AS WELL. BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THIS WILL DO TO STUART. LOCATION THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. DOWNTOWN BUSINESS IS THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. RIVER ESTUARY. EVACUATION ROUTES. AREAS AH, HOLE AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE. YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO GAIN FROM A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE AT THIS LOCATION. IS A DESTINATION SHOPPING CENTER AND A SARDINE PACKED APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN STUART. WILL IT CREATE MORE PROBLEMS FOR CITY THAN BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY FOR A FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM? KEEPING BIG DEVELOPMENTS OUT OF THE CITY CENTER. WE ACTUALLY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THIS AREA. WE KEEP THIS A SPECIAL PLACE UNLIKE ANY OTHER A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AS IT WAS MEANT TO BE. WHY IS THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT BETTER SUITED CLOSER TO AN INTERSTATE. CLOSER TO WHERE THERE'S ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND GO. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT IT RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF STUART? SO I HOPE YOU WILL THINK ABOUT THIS. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL BOTH KNOW TO THIS LOCATION AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS QUOTE FROM KATE MCCALLISTER CONCERNING LEGACY COST. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED THESE. SO EVERY TIME WE BUILD A NEW BIG BOX STORE AND ANOTHER SMALL BUSINESS CLOSES, WE LOSE A PIECE OF OUR COMMUNITY IDENTITY. WE LOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STORIES FOR ADVENTURES. CREATIVITY FOR ART FOR UNIQUENESS FOR NATURE FOR LEARNING FOR CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT. WE LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH FUTURE GENERATIONS. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL, SUSTAINABLE, VIBRANT, HEALTHY AND SAFE COMMUNITY LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE. AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS. YOU WERE SELECTED. BECAUSE WE TRUST THAT YOU WILL DO THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND RESEARCH, TALKED TO THE NECESSARY PEOPLE AND MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND IMPACTS OF YOUR DECISIONS. AS OFFICIALS, YOU MAKE COMMITMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY TO UPHOLD PRINCIPLES OF SUSTAINABILITY, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, LOCAL ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, SAFETY, HEALTH AND MANY OTHERS. IT IS MY SINCERE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THESE PRINCIPLES BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KEVIN POOLE. KEVIN POOLE. IS HE ONLINE? SIR? SUPPORT PLEASE PRESENT YOUR COMMENTS FOR THREE MINUTES. YEAH HI. MY NAME'S KEVIN POOLE LIVE LIVE IN STUART FOR 20 YEARS. 31 I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW AGAINST IT SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE. I THINK IT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING, I LIKE COSTCO AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. EXCEPT THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO AFFECT ME IN ANY WAY. LIKE THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE THE MOST SELFISH, RIDICULOUS REASON I'VE EVER HEARD. UM IT'LL BRING GOOD JOBS TO THE TOWN $16 AN HOUR IS GREAT TONS OF NEW APARTMENTS, WHICH YOU KNOW. GRANTED $1500
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ISN'T SUPER CHEAP, BUT IT'S MUCH CHEAPER THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CHARGE FOR RENT RIGHT NOW, UM, I LIVE IN WHITE MARSH RESERVE ACROSS FROM THIS TO OUR FIREHOUSE ON CANNER.SO AGAIN, IT WILL AFFECT ME. MORE THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. THE OTHER LADY WHO WAS LIKE I SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE POINT. CANTOR DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME OR MY FAMILY. LOTS OF PEOPLE IN CANADA. I NO WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. UM, I. IT'S JUST COMPLETELY SILLY TO ME THAT ANYONE WOULD BE AGAINST IT JUST BECAUSE WELL, SLIGHTLY INCONVENIENCED THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE CONSERVATIVE LIBERTARIAN BUSINESS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SUCCEED AND MOVINTO WHERE THEY WANT TO MOVE IN, IF OTHER PLACES CAN'T COMPETE WITH THEM, THAT'S CAPITALISM. IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROVIDING LONG, GOOD PAYING JOBS, ONLY PLACES LIKE WALMART IN PUBLIC'S, WHICH COULD KEEP PEOPLE ON PERPETUAL PART TIME WORK PAYING THEM $9 AN HOUR. THIS WILL MAKE PUBLIX AND WAL MART HAVE TO PAY PLACES BETTER. I DON'T WANT TO SHOP FOR THOSE PLACES BECAUSE THEY TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES LIKE GARBAGE. COSTCO DOESN'T LIKE, CAN'T REALLY AFFORD TO LIVE IN A LOT OF PLACES ON 31. I KNOW A LOT OF MY FRIENDS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE AROUND HERE EITHER.
DEPARTMENTS CAN HELP WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. JUST PLEASE APPROVE THE PROJECT, AND E HOPE UGO. THANK YOU, SIR. MR JEFF HARDEN. MESSNER COMMISSION. GOOD MORNING. I KNOW HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORK, AND I KNOW YOU TAKE IT PERSONALLY, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF THESE LATE NIGHT MEETINGS AND I KNOW AREN'T YOU WORK SO. I'D LIKE TO THINK MR MARINO FOR BRINGING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STUART. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IS JOBS. IT'S CONSTRUCTION JOBS IS EMPLOYEES.
IT'S REALLY A GREAT THING, AND I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB WITH HER TEAM. YOUR TEAM PREVENTED THAT ARE PRESENTED A WONDERFUL CASE. AND I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB. I'M IN FAVOR. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO LONG. I THINK TWO GREAT PROJECT. I HOPE YOU VOTE YES TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. MICHELLE SHIN CARO. MICHELSEN CAR, A LITTLE OLD TRAIL. SHOW LITTLE OLD TRAIL. NOT PRESENTLY WITH YIELD YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE. SLOWLY. HUFFMAN. OBAMA POINT CIRCLE. CHLOE HOFFMAN. NOT PRESENT. LAURA HOFFMAN. LAURA HOFFMAN. WHAT WAS THAT? THIS? LAURA HUFFMAN. IS SHE PRESENT ON THE LINE BY PHONE OR MM. JUNE. THANK YOU, SIR.
JACKIE BLAKE. MOBILE LINK WAY. JACKIE BLAKE. JACKET, BLAKE NOT PRESENT. JOE BAXTER. MM. YOU'RE BAXTER, NOT PRISON THAT ONLINE. HARRY. SNYDER. HARRY SNYDER. YES IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN? YOU CAN COME IN AND SIT DOWN. WE HAVE SPACE INSIDE.
SOCIETY. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE MAN HERE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S HARRY SNYDER. UH COSTCO IS A FINE COMPANY. IT HAS A PLACE IN THIS AREA. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS. PLACE IS RIGHT.
IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN. YOU CAN'T PUT UP A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE. INTO SINGLE FAMILY.
HEARING PEOPLE. LOVED HIS PROPERTIES ZONED. FOR SHE RAN FIVE UNITS SEE ACRE YOUR MIGHTY MAC A KID ON A LITTLE BIT. I WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING. BUT FOR THE PURPLE PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN RIGHT? I THINK HURT THE WHOLE AREA. WOULDN'T BOMB SAID COSTCO COME IN AT ALL, BUT NOT IN THIS AREA. BUT IN THIS PLACE. THANK YOU, MR SNYDER. CARRIE COOKE. CARRIE
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COOKE, GREENS POINT WAY. CARRIE COOKE, GREENS POINT WAY. IF YOU'RE PRESIDENT AT CITY HALL, OR IF YOU'RE ONLINE. NOT PRESENT. JOHN CAN TOO. YOU GOOD TERRORISTS. JOHN, COME TO COMING. HI. MY NAME IS JOHN KING, TOO. I'VE BEEN A MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 30, PLUS YEARS. UM SEEN SO MANY CHANGES. GOOD AND BAD. I'M NOT AGAINST CHANGE. I THINK GROWTH IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. JUST THINK THIS LOCATION IS THE WRONG PLACE. UM AS A FUTURE PARENT OF.AS A PARENT OF THE FUTURE CHILD, IT WOULD BE GOING TO MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. I'M I'M REALLY AGAINST IT. I JUST DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE KIDS. SO WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION LET'S TAKE THEM TO CONSIDERATION. WHETHER THEY'RE YOUR KIDS, YOUR GRANDKIDS. NEPHEWS, NIECES. TALK ABOUT THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. SILLY HARDENED WATER, CHRIS WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU YIELDED THIS TIME. DORIS TO PINO. ORESTES TO PINO STERLING CIRCLE. DORIS TO PINO STERLING CIRCLE, NOT ONLINE. JOHN. SOLID SULLIVAN, JOHN SULLIVAN. JOHN SULLIVAN. SO IS BIG POINT. THANK YOU. GO ON FOR AUNTIE. YOU'RE ON FOR ENTERTAIN. NO ADDRESS GIVEN
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