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HONEY. HEY, BUDDY, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA CALL THE OCTOBER 5TH CRB MEETING TO ORDER WELCOME, EVERYBODY. UH, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR LOUIS. VICE CHAIR. CAMPENNI REMEMBER JULIE BOARD MEMBER MAY COME SOON. FOR MEMBER SCHROTH. REMEMBER WACHA HERE? BOARD MEMBER WILSON HERE. AT THIS TIME WE ASKED IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAND UP IN THE BUDGET LEGION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
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THEIR MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SOME OF THE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ALRIGHT,[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
ALRIGHT. HOW IS THERE A MOTION APPROVAL THE AGENDA TODAY WE HAVE TWO MATTERS BEFORE THE BOARD. IT'S THE WELLS FARGO ISSUE AS WELL AS APPLICATIONS COMING UP FOR A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ALL RIGHT. RIGHT GETTING RIGHT DOWN TO IT. IS THERE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC UNRELATED BOARD MEMBER BOARD MATTERS TODAY. SAY NONE. NONE FROM ONLINE ANY[COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS]
GENERAL COMMENTARY ON THE BOARD MEMBERS. ALRIGHT APOLOGIZED TO THE BOARD FOR MISSING TRIER MEETING ACTUALLY DIDN'T IT WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF IT. I MISSED THE MEMOS. I APOLOGIZED MY BAD, MR GOODWIN. YEAH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT. I'M LOOKING AT THE MINUTE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE THE TIE VOTE, MAN. OR THAT WAS YOUR NEXT GOD. HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY I GUESS[1. Presentation - Solicit RFP for East Ocean Redevelopment]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM ONE ON THE AGENDA TODAY. THE PRESENTATION FOR THE WELLS FARGO MATTER. THANK YOU. PANEL GANDHI SADA, CRE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RECORD THIS ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES. AH THIS IS THE ART RFP, WHICH IS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE THREE PARCELS ON SOUTH EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. UM, THIS C R A PURCHASE PARCEL NUMBER TWO AND THREE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN UP THERE. AND THE CITY PURCHASE PARCEL NUMBER ONE, UH, TO MOVE THE CITY HALL TO THE EXISTING WELLS FOR BARK WELLS FARGO BUILDING. UM SO WE'LL BE SOLICITING OFFERS TO EITHER PURCHASE OR LONG TERM LEASE OF THESE PARCELS. AND DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PARCELS FOR EITHER INDUSTRIAL OFFICE USED RETAIL, MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. MIXED USE RECREATIONAL. ENTERTAINMENT NEWS OR ANY OTHER YOUTH THAT WILL MAKE THE DOWNTOWN VIBRANT. UM THAT THERAPY IS SCHEDULED TO BE ADVERTISED TOMORROW AND ALL THE PROPOSALS ARE DUE ON NOVEMBER BY NOVEMBER, 5TH AND THEN THE CITIES. A SELECTION COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSALS AND SELECT THE TOP THREE. THOSE TOP THREE FIRMS WILL PRESENT THEIR PROPOSALS TO THE CR ABOARD. THE SIERRA BOARD WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RANKED THOSE PROPOSALS AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER WILL SCORE THOSE, UM AH, EVALUATION FORMS AND THEN THE FINALISTS FIRM WILL BE AWARDED. WHAT. THE PROPOSAL. SO, UM, NO ACTION IS REQUIRED.THIS WAS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON. THINGS LIKE STAFF KNOWS THERE'S OUR BOARD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. ARE WE GOING TO BE SEEN ANY PRESENTATIONS? CRB.
IT'LL GO STRAIGHT TO SCIARRA. QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THIS DONE.
AN ONLINE AS ANY OTHER CLEANING CLIMATE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ONE QUESTION AS I READ THROUGH THE R F T. I KNOW IT WAS BOUGHT WITH THE IDEA OF MOVING CITY HALL, AND THERE'S NO COMMON THAT THERE'S NO. NOTHING THAT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THERE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS BOUGHT AT A GOOD TIME AND RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO LOOK FOR AN RFP, BUT I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. RIGHT? SO THE RFP DOES CALL OUT THAT THAT WEALTH FARGO BUILDING WILL BE USED FOR CITY HALL AND THAT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE PARKING REQUIRED.
OFFER THE CITY HALL PURPOSES AND THEN THE REST OF THE PARTS THAT WILL BE USED FOR ANY REDEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. I GUESS I JUST READ THROUGH THAT SECTION TOO FAST. GOOD BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE LONG DOCUMENT. ALRIGHT WE SAW AT LEAST ON WELLS FARGO'S RIGHT. I MEAN, THEY STILL HAVE, LIKE, FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYBE LIKE THAT. STILL LEAST AND OKAY, WELL, I WITHDRAW THE QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE BEFORE MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. NOT
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SEEING ANY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. THAT'S THE APPLICATIONS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD. THANK YOU. CHAIR CARE FREEMAN, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, BUT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY, UH, STAFF. TO THE SEA ARE[00:05:06]
BEING RELEASED TO GET SOMETHING GENERAL FEEDBACK ON. WHAT THE CLB ARE LOOKING FOR. IN TERMS OF. APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD WITH INFORMATION SHOULD BE SUPPLIED WITH THOSE INFORMATION WITH THOSE APPLICATIONS AND UM GENERAL INSTRUCTION TO STAFF. ARE WE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY, JUST LIKE THE PRP PROGRAM, AND YOU KNOW THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? ANYTHING IN GENERAL JUST PRIMARILY DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SORRY. YEAH. I THOUGHT WHEN WE GET APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT THE BIRTH PROGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.ALL OF YOU IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT. I THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION? YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, IT ALL PROBABLY BEEN BROUGHT ON BY THE. THE HOTEL ONE MORE TIME WITHOUT HAVING THE PARKING THAT THEY NEEDED A SIGN FROM SOME. I JUST THINK IN GENERAL BEFORE THE APPLICATION CONCEPT FOR THIS BOY THAT THERE SHOULD BE ALMOST LIKE A CHECKLIST. THAT SITE PLAN? YEP DOESN'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO AGREE THAT THEY WITH THE CYCLING PERCENT, BUT WE SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO CYCLE. IF THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE 90 PARKING SPACES ACCORDING TO CODE AND THEY WANT TO GET 60. WELL, WHY IS IT. AND IF THEY AGREE THAT THE 71 BUT THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR 60. WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THE OTHER 11 SPACES. SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO US, WE CAN SAY. YES WE'RE NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. ADD IF WE WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. YOU KNOW, LIKE. I KNOW THAT FRANK IS GRATEFUL LANDSCAPING. BUT IT'S HARD TO LANDSCAPE SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SITE IS. THIS KIND OF HARD TO PROVE SOMETHING. IF THE PEOPLE. WE'LL TAKE THAT. I HATE TO KEEP TAKING THAT FOR AN EXAMPLE. BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE PARKING LOT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE 21 SPACES.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE? WE APPROVE IT AND WE SAY YEAH, YOU GUYS GO FIGURE IT OUT. IT'S GOT TO BE WITHIN 100 FT. BUT YET IT'S NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE AND WE'RE HAVING THIS HEARING. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE. AND SO.
I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING UNLESS THE PERSON WHO IT'S GOING TO BE. YOU KNOW AFFECT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AFFECT KNOWS KNOWS ABOUT. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A MORE COMPLETE APPLICATION. NOT ONE THAT STAFF AGREES WITH. BUT ONE THAT CHECKS THE MARKS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS DETERMINATION AND THEN SUDDENLY IT UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION. TRIBUTE EXCHANGE STAFF SHOULD COME UP SOMEWHERE. CATEGORY CATEGORY SYSTEM FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING AND THEN YOU KNOW. OUR ARTWORK, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT SITE PLAN? YES. SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GETTING, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THERE'S NO SENSE OF HAVING A PUBLIC BLEEDING. IF THERE'S THINGS MISSING THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT AND AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING. WHERE. YEAH JUST BECAUSE THE SPENDING $2 MILLION OF $5 MILLION. OH, YEAH, THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY. WELL THEN MAYBE THEY DON'T FIGURE OUT WELL, MAYBE FIGURE OUT AND IT HURTS. SOME HOMEOWNER WHO HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS GOING TO THAT WAS THAT WAS MY CONCERN. THAT'S WHY I VOTED NO. YEP MY FEELING IS THAT AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE LAST ONE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THE SAME ISSUE. BUT APPARENTLY THE ISSUE ALSO CAME THROUGH. IN THE MEETING. I WASN'T HERE WHEN THEY WERE TAUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW THE BUSINESS. PRASAD GRANT THING.
REGARDING LANDSCAPING AND TREES AND STUFF. THEN JUST GENERALLY, I THINK EACH ONE OF THESE APPLICATIONS AND AS I READ THROUGH THE MATERIAL YOU GAVE US. YOU KNOW, IT SAID GENERALLY, WE'RE GOING TO GET THINGS TO LOOK AT AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE VARIOUS ITEMS ON IT. WE NEED ALL OF THE INFORMATION. IN ORDER TO MAKE A COMPLETE AND RATIONAL DECISION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S REALLY BEST FOR THE CITY OR NOT, AND BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US. BUT. IF SOMEBODY IS JUST LOOKING TO PAINT OFFENSE, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, YOU KNOW, BUT. IT'S KIND OF A GENERAL THING IN MY MIND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE FOR EACH APPLICATION THAT COMES THROUGH. AND WHEN YOU GUYS SAY THAT, I'M THINKING IMMEDIATELY OF THE CRP PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE THE SCORE SHEET ISSUE. WE HAD THE POINT SYSTEM AND WE CAN SEE. SO AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO YOU KNOW SOMEBODY PUTTING A
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HOTEL OR CONDOS? WHAT? NOT IN YOU KNOW WHAT NOT, BUT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? BASICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEE. THIS IS OKAY. WELL THEY TOOK CARE OF LANDSCAPING THERE TAKING CARE OF THIS, UM, THAT WE CAN SEE. YOU KNOW, ACCORDING WITH STAFF. LOOKED AT AHEAD OF TIME OF WHAT? WHAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED WHAT WE YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES WE HAVE? WE HAVE REGULATIONS. WE HAVE CODE RIGHT? SO THE COACHES X Y AND Z DO WE HAVE AS X Y AND Z P NET, NOT WHETHER EX WIVES HE HAS BEEN MET. TWO. A BIG BECAUSE STAFF THINKS IT'S THE RIGHT THING THAT WAS. OR THEY DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THERE'S A SLOPED ROOF. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT HAS THIS ALL BEEN MET? AND THEN THEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUDGE.AND WE HAVE A FULL APPLICATION TO EITHER VOTE YES OR NO. ONE AND IF THE SENATE TO THE PROMOTION AND AT THE SAME TIME I THINK PART OF OUR JOB IS TO TAKE WHO NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
AND SORT OF SEE IF WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING BECAUSE HOW OFTEN HAVE WE BEEN HERE? ESPECIALLY WITH THAT E. STEWART PROJECT WITH THE HARTMANS. AND WE SORT OF. YOU KNOW, GOT STUFF INTO THAT PROJECT THAT HELPED THE COMMISSION WHEN IT GOT TO THEM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DIFFUSE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ANGER AND. CONCERNS AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO PART OF OUR JOB IS TO DIFFUSE THE ACTIVE CONCERN AND TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY ANY PLAYING. I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A COMPLETE.
APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT I MEAN. WE KNOW WHAT THE CODES ARE. WE KNOW WHAT'S REQUIRED. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE CODE, AND IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, THEN WHATEVER THEY WHATEVER THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO. BECAUSE HE'S NOT MEETING THE CODE. HE SHOULD COME FORWARD WITH THAT, NOT I'LL GET TO IT LATER. IT'S OKAY. BECAUSE IF. AGAIN. WE GO BACK TO THE HOTEL IF HE HAD THAT LOT SEWN UP. THAT PROJECT WOULD APPROVE SIX OH LAST WEEK.
JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE AND THAT'S WHY IN OUR LAST MEETING. THE PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH THE EU DEAL WAS LOOKING OR NO, IT WAS FOR PARKING REBUILDING. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. ON THEIR SITE TO HANDLE THE REQUIREMENT. WHAT WAS IN THE. AND EVEN WITH ADJUSTMENTS FOR SHARED PARKING, THEY STILL NEEDED PARKING, AND INITIALLY THEY HAD FOUND A SITE. THAT WOULD HAVE PROVIDED ACTUALLY EVEN MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY PROVIDED MORE PARKING. BUT THERE WAS. A TECHNICALITY THAT STOP THEM FROM BRINGING THAT FORWARD DOES. AND THEY WANTED US TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT SEEING WHERE THESE ADDITIONAL SPACES WE'RE GOING TO BE. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT PROMPTED THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE THING WHERE WE NEED TO. MAKE SURE WE SEE ALL THE INFORMATION. THAT EXACTLY SO YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. IS THIS HELPING? WE'VE KIND OF TALKED TO JUST TALK AND WE'RE NOT GOING INTO RIGHT. I THINK SOMEHOW THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A GRAY AREA BECAUSE APPLICANTS AND PROPOSALS THE REASON WHY IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. IS THIS A VARIANCE REQUIRED. OF SOME SORT. THE CHECKLIST THAT WE RUN. WHEN WE GET AN APPLICATION THROUGH IS DO THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN? DO THEY HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN? ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE CODE. WE HAVE THE VARIOUS THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WAS PARKING. STUFF. SUGGESTED THAT WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WAS NOT ENOUGH. AND WE PUT A CONDITION IN THERE TO ADDRESS THAT. IT WAS A. I'M WHAT I'VE TOLD APPLICANTS NOW IS THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CONSIDER VARIANCES. I WANT THEM TO MEET THE CODE. THEY SHOULD BE TO CALL IN MY OPINION, AND IF THEY'RE ASKING. SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEAT. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE PARKING UNDER A BUILDING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING ANYWHERE THEY WANT TO SAY THE CODE. THE CODE REQUIRES A VARIANCE FOR PARKING UNDER A BUILDING. SO. ALWAYS LOOKING AT VARIANCES. ARE WE DISCUSSING THOSE? IT'S A I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WE SHOULD. OF COURSE, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING. THE WHOLE REASON THEY CAME TO US BECAUSE OF THE UNDERGROUND. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CAME TO THE SEA. OBVIOUS CORRECT? YES BUT PART OF WHY THEY CAME TO US.
THE UNDERGROUND PARKING. THEN WE HAD THE OTHER ISSUES AND IF WE WERE APPROVING THE SITE PLAN, PART OF THE CYCLING WAS THE ADDITIONAL 11 OF 20. WHATEVER IT WAS. IN THE OTHER LOT. IT'S NOT ATTACHED. TO THIS PROBLEM, AND THAT WAS YOU KNOW, STAFF RECOMMENDED TO THE APPLICANT
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THAT THEY DID NOT COME FORWARD UNLESS THEY RESOLVED ALL THESE THINGS. THEY'RE FREE TO COME FORWARD AND ASK. AND DEBATE THAT BUT I'M SAYING SHOULD THEY BE FREE TO COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR SOMETHING? THAT WE KNOW IS INCOMPLETE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETE SITE PLANS. YOU DON'T HAVE. INCOMPLETE SITE PLAN. THEY'RE NOT READY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DID YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT CAP TECH WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM THAT? THEY PUT THAT IN? THAT JUST HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT? OPEN ON THE FLIGHT. REMEMBER HE GAVE ME THE PAPER LIKE IT WAS A JORDAN SOMETHING SO STABBING DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT WHAT WE WERE TOLD AFTER THE PRESENTATION WAS THE PRESENTATION WAS NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MADE. OKAY SO THE BIG ONE? YEAH YEAH, FUN, SO I JUST LIKE, I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO GO FORWARD. AND WHAT DO YOU DO IT WITH A CHECKLIST, WHICH IS SOMETHING I PREFER BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO DO WITH THE CHECKLIST. BUT PROJECTS DON'T COME FORWARD IF THEY DON'T HAVE COMPLETE.AND TO ME, THE SITE PLAN IS A COMPLETE PACKAGE AND THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES ARE REQUIRED.
BECAUSE WE HAVE. FRANK WOULD SAY. WELL, WHAT KIND OF BUSHES ARE YOU GOING TO PUT UP? MAYBE, YOU KNOW. MAYBE NEED IT WOULD SAY WHAT ABOUT THE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW? IS IT GOING TO BE PAID? SO YOU KNOW TO ME THAT OBJECTS SIDEWALK, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT. FOR THIS LAST ONE. SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE. THE SITE PLAN. NO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SITE PLAN WITH THE SITE PLAN OF THE HOTEL. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CITE PLATE OF THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. WHICH IS A LITTLE PART OF WHICH IS MORE PART OF THE DEVELOPED.
RIGHT BECAUSE OF THE LAST MOMENT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW. YES AGAIN. WE'RE NOT BLAMING ANYBODY. BUT THEN IT SHOULD SHOULD HAVE BEEN. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE COME BEFORE THE CRB UNLESS YOU NEEDED TO CONTINUE IT, WHICH IS WHAT ACTUALLY. YEAH. MISS CHAN. YEAH. I MEAN, I OBVIOUSLY WAS HERE. DURING THIS THING. I LOOK AT THAT ONE. THAT'S THE ONE OFF, THE APPLICANT DID NOT PAY ATTENTION TO ITS STAFF TO NOT STAFF TOLD HIM. AND INSISTED ON COMING UP.
WITHOUT HAVING THE A PARKING SET. YOUR LAST 40 SPACES OR 20 SPACES FELL THROUGH WITHIN THE LAST MONTH TO THREE WEEKS WITH KEVIN. YEAH, UM NOW. TOM'S BROAD GENERAL STATEMENT DISTURBED ME TO SOME DEGREE. IN THAT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN US AND THE BOARD LOOKING AT VARIANCES. AND THE CITY COMMISSIONER LOOKING AT COMPLETED PROJECTS.
THERE AREN'T ISN'T OFTEN THAT WE COME HERE. WHEN YOU SAY MEET THE CODES. UH HUH. THIS TIME, THEN MEAN THAT HE WANTS TO SEE AN ENTIRE FULL LANDSCAPE CODE. HE WENT SEE ENTIRE FULL.
MEETING OF THE CODE ON SIDEWALKS, MEANING OF THE CODE ON LIGHTING. MEETING OF THE KODAK SCHOLARS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE HERE FOR VARIOUS.
THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE FOR VARIANCE ON THE PARKING BUT THE REST OF IT WHEN YOU SAY THEY WANT TO MEET CODE. THAT INVOLVES PUTTING IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DESIGN. WORK SHEETS. THAT'S THE PROPER FUNCTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION. WITH THE SIERRA. TO GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE ONE AND FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEY DO, SUBMIT. MEETS THE CODE ON THOSE ISSUES IF YOU'RE NOT UP FOR VARIANCE AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. SO WHEN YOU SAY, TOM THAT. YOU WANT EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. I DIDN'T SAY THAT. AND THEN THAT'S WHERE I HEARD IT. WELL, UH, CLARIFY, IS IT IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID WAS IF WE GET A PACKAGE, YOU WENT TO LANDSCAPING CODE EVERY TIME. I IF WE'RE APPROVING A PROJECT IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT A VARIANCE, DO YOU WANT THE LANDSCAPE CARD IF WE HAVE TO APPROVE A PROJECT AND PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS? IS LANDSCAPING. ONLY VARIANTS LIGHTING. ONLY OF US BARBARIANS. NO, NOT NECESSARILY. KEVIN WHAT? IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT. EVERY PROJECT IS DIFFERENT SO YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE CHECKLIST FOR EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE A COMPLETENESS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE BASIC THINGS THAT YEAH. FOR AND IT MAY NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING WHEN EVERY PROJECT. BUT WE SHOULDN'T LET THINGS FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. AS A. CIVILIAN COMMUNITY BOARD. WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE PUBLIC INPUT. IT'S HARD TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT. IF WE'RE MISSING THINGS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE MR. LET ME LET ME
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PUT THIS TO YOU. ISN'T IT IS THAT. THAT WAS, IN MY OPINION. THAT WAS A JOB WELL DONE BY THE CLB. THAT WAS A JOB WELL DONE AND LOOKING AT WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THEM. LOOKING AT THAT APPLICATION AND POINTING OUT THE DEFICIENCIES THAT THE CLB WOULD NEED. TO THE APPLICANT. NO. SORRY. YES. BEFORE THEY WOULD BE MOVED TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT TO ME, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT JOB BY THE CRB. STUFF. CAN ONLY GO SO FAR WITH. PUSHING AN APPLICANT TO A RESOLUTION OF THESE THINGS. AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES AN APPEARANCE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. TO ACTUALLY GET THOSE POINTS ACROSS. NOW, EVERY POINT THAT THE CLB MADE. IN PARTICULAR TO THAT APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT TO THE APPLICANT BY STEP. IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO NOT ADDRESS THOSE. DO WE PERPETUALLY NOT BRING THAT APPLICANT TO THE BOARD, SO I HAVE A LEGAL QUESTION. MIKE. MIKE. WHAT? WHAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU CAN DO THIS. YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU CAN DO THIS. YOU CAN DO THAT YOU CAN GO TO YOU GO TO A EVEN GOING TO BE SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR POSITION AT ALL THAT IF I WAS SITTING ON THE BOARD. I WOULD EXPECT TO COMPLETE APPLICATION BECAUSE. HEARING A PROJECT FOUR TIMES BECAUSE STUFF ISN'T THERE JUST MAKES IT RESENTFUL, AND IT ALSO WORKS AT THE NEIGHBORS. IT'S A LOT OF WORK. HOWEVER. AND WHAT KEVIN'S POINTING OUT, KEVIN SAID. WELL, IF YOU WANT TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION. SO I'M DEVELOPING A HOTEL AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT IS TO HAVE PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING. WELL IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME THE VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING THEN BEFORE STAFF CAN BRING THAT PROJECT FORWARD TO YOU TO REVIEW. THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND DESIGN. WHICH SHOWS THAT PARKING COMPLETE IN THE IN THE LOT NEXT DOOR OR DOWN THE STREET. IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE SALTWATER FISHING OR WHATEVER IT IS. THEY. WHERE THE POSITION THAT THEY SHOULD ADD 20 SPACES. KEVIN WAS IN THIS POSITION OF 34. I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE BECAUSE I WASN'T PAYING THAT CLOSE ATTENTION TO IT, BUT. TO BE COMPLETE, DID THEY HAVE TO MEET KEVIN'S NUMBER? THEY HAVE TO MEET THIRD NUMBER NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO MEET THEIR NUMBER. SO I THINK COMPLETE. IS THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S MY PROJECT. I'D LIKE TO VARIOUS FOR PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING.AND I'D LIKE A CONDITION TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE 21 SPACES OFF SITE. AT MINIMUM, THEY SHOULD HAVE A DESIGN THAT SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF THOSE 21 SPACES OFF SITE. IF THEY'RE CONTRARY TO STAFF. AND KEVIN SAYING THEY SHOULD HAVE 34 SPACES OFF SITE AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY WANT 21. OH I THINK WE KIND OF HAVE TO GIVE THE LENIENCY TO THE APPLICANT. AND SAY KEVIN DOESN'T HAVE THE ARBITRARY ABILITY TO TELL THEM. THE NUMBER. THAT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION. BUT AT A MINIMUM. THE THRESHOLD THEY SHOULD BRING AND SHOW YOU AS A BOARD. IS THE COMPLETED. PROJECT OF WHAT THEY WANT. NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE YOU'RE NOT THE BOARD FOR IT.
BUT WE'VE RUN INTO THIS A LOT, TOO, AND IN LOT SPLITS. AND. I KNOW THIS GUY THAT THREATENED TO SUE US AFTERWARDS WHEN HE GOT TO KNOW MET WITH ME FOR AN HOUR AND I SAID TO HIM, LOOK DON'T GO FOR LOT SPLIT. GOING FROM THAT BOARD AND ASKED FOR AUTHORITY TO BUILD TWO HOUSES AND NOT JUST TWO HOUSES HAVE THEM DRAWN SHOWING THEIR SWIMMING POOLS SHOW WHERE THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS GOING TO BE SHOW WHERE THE CIRCLE PAPERS ARE GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE HOUSES THAT YOU WALK BETWEEN. MAKE THE BOARD BE ABLE TO ADOPT THE EXACT. IMAGE THAT THOSE LOT SPLITS ARE GOING TO GIVE, AND YOU'RE LIKELY TO GET YOUR APPROVAL WALK IN THERE AND JUST SAY I WANT TO LOT SPLITS BECAUSE MAYBE I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, AND THERE'S NO IMAGINATION. THERE'S NO DESCRIPTION. NO, NOTHING SHOWN AND YOU LOSE. AND. LOST WE HAD ULTIMA LITTLE HEARINGS AND IT WASN'T COMPLETE AND IT WAS BUBBA BUBBA BUBBA, SO.
ALONG WITH THE TONGUE COMPANY'S PERSPECTIVE. I DO AGREE THAT. WHEN A PROJECT LIKE LET'S USE THE. SALTWATER FISH SIZE SORT SPORTFISHING HOTEL. LET'S SAY SPORT FISH HOTEL GOT APPROVAL FROM YOU GUYS. AND YOU SAID, BUT YOU CAN'T PULL A PERMIT DAY OF THE 20 SPACES. AND THEN IT WENT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION SAID. COOL ENOUGH, BUT YOU CAN'T GET A PERMIT TO YOU. THOSE 20 SPACES. AND THEN THEY WENT AND BOUGHT THE LOT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE. AND STARTED PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL LIGHTS UP. AND THEY WERE GOING TO
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BUILD THE 20 SPACES NEXT TO MY HOUSE, AND I PISSED OFF ABOUT IT, BUT I DIDN'T COME OBJECT.BECAUSE WHEN THE HEARING TOOK PLACE, IT WASN'T NEXT TO MY HOUSE. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. SO I WAS OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET OR DOWN THE ROAD. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH 24 HOUR LIGHTING AND SECURITY AND TRAFFIC NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE, SO I THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE SOME EXPECTATION WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWING TO HAPPEN, AND I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS INTENTIONALLY. WE'RE PLANNING ON THEM BUILDING NEXT TO A RESIDENT SAUCE. I DON'T THINK THE STAFF WOULD DO THAT EITHER. I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, THOUGH, AS A WAY TO THIS COULD BREAK BAD FAST NOW. IS THAT COMPLETE? IS THE WORD COMPLETE. I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE CITY'S CODE IS DESIGNED TO INTENTIONALLY CREATE AN INCOMPLETENESS SO THAT THE BOARD HAS SOME DISCRETION TO KIND OF DO THIS. LET'S PLAY MAKE A DEAL. UM TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WITH PROJECTS AND GET THINGS OUT OF THEM. AND CAN YOU ADD A STATUE? OR CAN YOU WIDEN YOUR SIDEWALK AND PUT A BIKE RACK OR WHATEVER ELSE IT IS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY, LISTEN.
CODE REQUIRES ME TO BUILD. MY BUILDING ON THE SIDEWALK LEVEL, AND I WANT TO BUILD MY BUILDING 12 FT ABOVE THE GROUND SO THAT I COULD HAVE PARKING UNDERNEATH IT. ONE OF THESE THEY WANT YOU TO DO. BUT ONCE I BUILD THE PARKING UNDERNEATH IT, I STILL NEED 20 OTHER PARKING SPACES. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO SHOW YOU. WHERE THOSE 20 OTHER SPACES ARE BEFORE YOU CAN VOTE ON IT. AND MAYBE MAYBE KEVIN'S RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THAT KEVIN GETS TO BE THE END ALL IT'S NOT HIS AUTHORITY. MAYBE. YOU GUYS IS ABOARD THE FIRST TIME IT COMES BEFORE YOU. YOU'RE JUST VOTE. NO. AND YOU SAY. THERE'S NO PARKING SPACES. I CAN'T VOTE ON THIS. IT'S INCOMPLETE. I'M NOT. WE DON'T NEED THE DEBATE I EMOTIONALLY TABLE OR CONTINUE UNTIL THEY COME BACK WITH PARKING SPACES. AND DON'T TABLE IT TO TWEETED CERTAIN HAMMER HIM ON THE HAMMER HIM ON THE, UH, MAILING. LET HIM SPEND ANOTHER 2500 BUCKS. WHILE THEY THINK ABOUT IT, AND THEN YOU'RE KIND OF YOU CAN MESSAGE THEM. HOWEVER YOU WANT AS FAR AS HOW MUCH DETAIL THEY NEED. NOW I'M NOT SAYING TO BE VINDICTIVE. BUT I'M ALSO SAYING, YOU GUYS ARE VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME FOR US. IT'S YOUR TIME YOU GIVE IT UP FOR FREE. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME, EITHER. AND IF WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR 345 TIMES ON THE SAME APPLICATION WITH THE SAME ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE THROWING SPAGHETTI AT THE WALL TO SEE WHAT STICKS WE'RE WASTING YOUR TIME. AND SO THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. WHAT THE BALANCE IS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WHERE IT'S EXACT. AND WHAT I AGREE WITH TOM THAT IT'S FRUSTRATING TO NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE. BECAUSE.
YOU THEY SAID FLAT OUT. PLEASE DON'T CONDITIONAL EYES THIS ON THE SPOT ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE THAT MIGHT NOT WORK. SO YOU WERE UNABLE TO CONDITIONAL ISAT. OTHER THAN YOU MAY HAVE CONDITIONAL IS DEAD ON THE SPOT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE, AND THEN I WANTED A CHANCE TO OBJECT TO THAT. AND I DIDN'T GET IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS SOLD ME OUT WITHOUT RESTRICTING IT. AND SO THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE, YOU KNOW AGAIN. I'M NOT SURE WHERE MR SHERMAN REMEMBER FOR MEMBERS. I AGREE WITH MIKE. I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE. I THINK TOM HAS GONE TOO FAR. I THINK REQUIRING EVERY JOT TITTLE. TREE. BUSH. WHITE TO COME BEFORE US. IF IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET CODE. IS UNNECESSARY. FOR MANY OF THESE PROJECTS. THIS WAS AN ODDBALL OUT THAT WE'VE HAD. AT THIS LAST TIME STAFF RECOMMENDED THEY NOT DO IT. ONE OF THE THINGS. OKAY I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. THE ONE THING THE CITY OF STEWART HAS ALWAYS DONE. HIS WORK VERY WELL WITH THEIR APPLICANTS. THE STAFF IS EXTREMELY DILIGENT ABOUT GETTING THINGS. THE WAY THEY THINK THEY OUGHT TO BE, EVEN IF THE CODE DOESN'T SAY. THEY WORK WITH AFGHANS ALL THE TIME TO GET THE DETAILS RIGHT AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE CITY IS KNOWN FOR. I SUPPOSE TO THE COUNTY OF MARTIN. WHO IS, YOU KNOW? IF YOUR NOSE IS BLUE, YOU AIN'T GETTING A PERMIT. AND WE HAVE NEVER OPERATED THAT WAY. I WOULD HATE TO GO TO A SYSTEM.
WHAT EVERY JOT AND TITTLE THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE ENGINEER TO BUILD. A PROJECT.
IF IT'S NOT IN QUESTION. YES THEY INTEND TO MEET CODE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM MEET THE CODE. IF WE WANT MORE THAN THE CODE WILL CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO ASK FOR, AND STAFF HAS MANY TIMES BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PIN THEM DOWN. TO PUTTING FORWARD. I'M INTERPRETING YOU WITH. I'M WORKING ON LANDSCAPE IN TIME. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE
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PARKING THING THAT WAS ONE ISSUE ON ONE PROJECT. AND I AGREE WITH IT NOW. OKAY? MIKE'S MIKE'S POINT WHERE THE BEST PARKING LOT WAS VERY WELL. TAKE. BUT TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING MUST BE IN ORDER. AS OPPOSED TO HOW MANY PROJECTS DO YOU HAVE KEVIN THAT COME FORWARD. AND HOW ONLY WANT ONE VARIANCE OR TO VARIOUS IS. AND THE CODE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SATISFIED WITH THE REST. ALMOST ALL ALMOST ALL OF YOU. ALMOST ALL THAT MEANS THAT ALL THOSE PIECES OF PAPER AND PLANS AND JOHNSON TITLES IF THAT'S WHAT COMMAS WANTS TO REQUIRE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MEETING THE CODE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SITTING HERE FOR.THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT WHAT MEANS THAT'S NOT WHAT ONE MEANS IN MINE. THAT'S NOT WHAT ONE MEANS IN MY MIND'S. OH NO, LET'S NOT USE THAT. THAT WAS A REALLY BAD EXAMPLE. BECAUSE I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FRANK. NOW THE APPLICANT DID COME UP AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT. WHICH YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR CHRIS. ON WHY? IT SHOULDN'T BE 90 SOME ODD SPACES. BUT WHY IS YOUR. UM I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF GET ON THEIR END DOWN THERE WHETHER THEY SPOKE TO HIM. THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A COMBINATION MADE AT THE MEETING WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF SPACES. AH! UH HUH. BUT. A COMPLETED APPLICATION IS ONE THAT SATISFY STAFF. AND HIGHLIGHTS EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO SEE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A VARIANCE. IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY EVERY PLOT IN GENERAL ON THE WHOLE THING IF YOU WANT ONE OF THOSE TAKE THE RIGHT TO THE CITY COMMISSION. NO, NO, YOU JUST SAID IT. COMPLETED APPLICATION. IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF ACCEPTS THAT IS NOT COMPLETED APPLICATION BECAUSE STAFF EXCEPT THAT THE APPLICATION. BUT THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT IT HAS MET ALL FEET FEET NECESSARY. PLEASE. THAT WAS NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH COLD TOM. THERE'S ALWAYS THE FEELING DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF EVERY APPLICATION. THAT SAYS STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND THIS.
RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S ALWAYS THAT SENTENCE DOWN TO THE BOTTOM STAFF JUST NOT RECOMMEND. IS. DAVE RECOMMENDS THIS ONLY WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. OKAY? UH I MEAN, IF THEY'VE GOT ANY HESITATION OF ANYTHING STAFF IS ALWAYS FELT ABLE TO DO SO I'M LOOKING FOR I DO NOT WANT TO BECOME THE COUNTY. AND REQUIRE THAT EVERY JOT AND TITTLE COME IN FRONT OF A BOARD. PRO VARIANTS. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME KIND OF ASSUMPTION. THEY'RE COMING FOR A SPECIFIC REASON. AND EVERYTHING ON FOR THAT REASON IS TAKEN CARE OF. NO HOLD ON IT. IF THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE OUT THERE. STAFF. THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THE CODE. THAT THAT'S STILL STILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE US AGAIN BECAUSE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE VARIANTS. FRANK FRIENDS BEEN PATIENT OVER HERE. NUMBER ONE. OKAY WELL, I JUST WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT I SAID. IN THE BEGINNING. WE NEED ALL OF THE INFORMATION. THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE A COMPLETE ASSESSMENT. OF WHETHER THEY CAN JUSTIFY THEIR SPECIAL CONDITION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THAT SHOULD INCLUDE SOME BENEFIT. AS TO WHY IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO DO THAT. AND SO. CONSEQUENTLY I THINK IF THAT'S KIND OF THE. THE WAY THAT YOU THAT THINGS ARE PRESENTED TO US FOR. VARIANTS EVERY SINGLE ONE. BENEFITS. THE.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO SEE WHAT. THE BENEFITS ARE OF GIVING THEM THIS. THIS SPECIAL CONDITIONS SPECIAL USE THINGS, SO THAT'S MY FEELING ON IT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT. WE NEED FOR EVERYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US. JUST THE INFORMATION WE NEED. TWO. BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TO DO THAT. COMMENT. THE WHAT? DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW UP, FRANK. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. AND I WILL
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GO ALONG. I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT. PERFECT I MEAN, IF THEY HAD HAD THE PARKING, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED. YEAH AND THAT WAS MY POINT TO THEM BEFORE THEY APPEARED, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY CHOSE TO PERSON ONE OR U. JUST FOOLISH. THAT'S.I AGREE. IF I AGREE, BUT THERE'S SO DO WE NEED EMOTIONAL ANYTHING? DON'T BELIEVE DIRECTION. I'M JUST TAKING THIS DIRECTION TO STAFF. UM. RIGHT
[OTHER MATTERS BEFORE THE BOARD]
WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO. IS THERE ANY OTHER MATTERS BEFORE THIS BOARD? NOT SEEING ANY WHO. UPSIDE, DID IT AGAIN. OCTOBER SIX. THE UM TOMORROW CITY IS GOING TO RELEASE AN RFP THAT'S TOMORROW. YES, IT IS A MATTER OF FACT. AND THE RFP IS GOING TO BE FOR A PROJECT FOR CITY ON LAND. WHICH IS THE BANK BUILDING OVER THERE. WE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT EARLIER THE BEGINNING BUILDING IN THE MEETING. AND THE C R A IS GOING. TO BE THE DECIDING BOARD ON THAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW THE LAW IN PARTICULAR AS IT RELATES TO THE CRB BEING IN THE CODE OF SILENCE, BUT I'M 100% SURE THAT THE TWO CRB REPRESENTATIVES THAT SIT ON THE SCIARRA. WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE IN THE CONE OF SILENCE. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, HOWEVER, IS THAT. BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SITTING ON A SIMILAR BOARD THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. THAT YOU TO TREAT IT THAT WAY. AND THE CONE OF SILENCE MEANS THAT ANYBODY THAT SUBMITTING A. MM PROPOSAL TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY AS A POTENTIAL APPLICANT TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE. ESSENTIALLY NON SUNSHINE COMMUNICATION WITH ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING THE PROJECT FROM OCTOBER SIX. UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE SIERRA HAS VOTED ON THIS PROJECT, SO I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT WILL BE, BUT I'M HOPING IT'LL BE TOWARD THE END OF NOVEMBER. I ALSO DON'T KNOW. THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW FOR SURE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE APPLICANT YET BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ULTIMATELY WILL BE. BUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO BRING IT UP TO YOU AND WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT IT, THE BEST ANSWER WOULD BE. THERE'S A CODE OF SILENCE. THE BOARD'S NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT. OKAY YEAH. MIKE SENSORS, A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE. IT WOULD BE GOOD, MAYBE SEND OUT A LITTLE MEMO OR SOMETHING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT AND I'LL GIVE REFERENCE TO THE RIGHT LANGUAGE. I THINK I'M PRETTY SURE AFTER ARGUMENTS OVER THE LAST TWO MEETINGS THAT TIME AND I WON'T BE TOUGH. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU TALKING TO TOM. I'M TALKING TO THE APPLICANT WORKING THAT BACK DEAL WHERE YOU GET A CONDO OUT OF IT. YOU KNOW, NOBODY CARES[STAFF UPDATE]
ENOUGH ABOUT ME. IS THERE ANY STAFF UPDATES? A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR THE MLK STREETSCAPE PROJECT ON THURSDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING TO THE MEETING. IF YOU'RE INTERESTING COMING UP, PLEASE JOIN US AGAIN. ESCAPE RIGHT RIGHT. THAT MILK A STREETSCAPE THURSDAY HEAR ME.SORRY. I'M. THINK I'M LOVED, BUT I GUESS JUDGMENT ONLY LIST PUT THE MASK. IS IT THURSDAY THIS THURSDAY AT SIX O'CLOCK AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. JORDAN. DO YOU WANT TO SEND THAT JUST A LITTLE MILK. THE EASIER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S AWESOME. RIGHT THANK YOU. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YES, ERIN GUYS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.