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MATHESON, CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. IT'S 4 32. FEBRUARY, 28. AND I'M GOING TO OPEN UP OUR SIERRA MEETING. WE'RE HERE. AT 1 21. FLAGLER AVENUE. STUART CITY HALL. MS MALIKA, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CHAIRPERSON MATHESON. HERE VICE CHAIRPERSON MCDONALD BOARD MEMBER BRUNER HERE. BOARD MEMBER CLARK HERE. BOARD MEMBER MEYER HERE. BOARD MEMBER CAMPENNI HERE, AND BOARD MEMBER WALTON. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS. WE HAVE A. AGENDA BEFORE US HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW
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IT. MOVE APPROVAL. THE AGENDAS PUBLISHED SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA BY BOARD MEMBER CLARK. AT ALL. AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MEYER. AT THIS TIME WILL ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. SORRY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT MOTION? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR ON APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. NOW MOVING ON. WILL ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT. PAUL. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT VIA ZOOM? CHAIRPERSON. WE HAVE NO COMMENTS. NO COMMENTS. I'D LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE IF THEY COULD HAVE A CHANCE, PLEASE. SILENCE YOUR CELLPHONES AS WELL. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS. HAPPENING. COMMENTS. ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. HEARING NONE. I HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE. I'M OUR RESIDENTIAL TREE PROGRAM. TIMES.[STAFF UPDATE]
AND I'LL ASK MRS GANDHI SOLVED US TO GIVE US A FURTHER UPDATE AFTER MY COMMENTS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ABOUT 18 APPLICATIONS IN THE PROGRAM. ANY HARD TO GET TO GET MORE APPLICATIONS AND I'M FRANKLY, QUITE DISAPPOINTED TO SAY THAT THEY WANTED THE LARGEST PROPERTIES THAT WOULD HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. ON THE CITY OF STEWART. UM ANDY STEWART FOR THIS PROGRAM. WAS ONE OF THE HUD PROPERTIES AND AS YOU GUYS MAY KNOW, THERE'S NUMEROUS PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY. BUTE WALDEN WAS A LARGE ONE THAT I TARGETED AND MADE NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS TO THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND FOLLOWED UP WITH EMAILS EXPLAINING THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM. AND THEY HAD A BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 22ND. AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY CHOSE TO REJECT CITY OF STEWART'S OFFERED TO PLANT TREES. WE WERE LOOKINGS CANDY SORROWS AND PRODUCED A GIS MAP OF THE LOCATIONS AND WE HAD ROUGHLY 10 PROPOSED LOCATIONS. OF TREES, THE SEA OF STEWART WOULD HAVE INSTALLED FOR FREE. MAINTAINED FOR THREE MONTHS AND AGAIN, THESE WERE NATIVE SHADE TREES. THAT WERE RECOMMENDED. BY A BIOLOGIST AND THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED LITTLE TO NO MAINTENANCE. TO. UNFORTUNATELY. THAT PROPERTY DECLINE TO HAVE TO HAVE ANY CHANGE TREES ON IT. UM. MR CHAIRMAN, DID THEY GIVE A REASON FROM THEIR BORDER WAS JUST A YES, UM. THE BASIC REASON WAS. UNFORTUNATELY LONG TERM CARE OF THE TREES COULD PRODUCE ADDITIONAL COST. OKAY TO THE AGENCY AND SO ON. YES AND I DISCUSSED THAT OVER THE PHONE[00:05:07]
WITH HER AND AGAIN, THESE WERE NATIVE SLOW GROWING TREES. OH, AND SOME OF THE BENEFITS I LISTED, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT THE SHADE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVEN REDUCED CLIMATE CONTROL COSTS OR OR EFFICIENCY. THERE, UM YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT SHADE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW SLOW GRASS GROWTH EVEN SO, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A COST TRADE OFF AND THEN YOU KNOW DIRECT BENEFITS FOR THE CITY OF STEWART. FLOOD CONTROL EROSION CONTROL. UM YOU KNOW MORE PEOPLE OUTDOORS, HEALTHIER, IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE. AND NUMEROUS STUDIES. NOW THAT I'VE READ STREETS THAT ARE SHADED REQUIRE, UM LESS RESURFACING LESS OFTEN THAN THOSE THAT HAVE TO ABSORB THE DIRECT SUNLIGHT. MAYOR. MHM A. I ASKED YOU, SAID 18. WHAT'S THE COSTS? ARE WE PAYING 400 TREE OR WHAT'S THE COST OF EACH TREE? I WAS GOING TO HAVE MISS GANDHI SOLVED US. GIVE US AN UPDATE AFTER THOSE COMMENTS AND REALLY? I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE BY THE RESIDENTS THAT I DID TALK TO AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT I EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM, TOO. UM WE'RE THRILLED AND VERY HAPPY.SO AS MUCH AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE A LARGER IMPACT WITH THE LARGE PROPERTY RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE STUART I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAPPY WITH THIS PROGRAM AND TURNOVER. MISS MISS CANDY SOLD US IF YOU COULD. TOUCH ON SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS. PLEASE MOVE. YES UM SO I AM PLANNING TO MEET WITH THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY TO IDENTIFY THE EXACT LOCATIONS SO WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFIED MARKED THE LOCATIONS FOR THESE PROPERTIES. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CONTACT THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAKE SURE THEY AGREE WITH THE LOCATION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS A REQUIRED PART OF THE APPLICATION. THEY JUST HAD TO SELECT THE TREE. THE TREES ARE GOING TO VARY FROM 200 TO $400 A TREATY THAT 30 GALLON TREES. WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL THE SHE'S EVER APPROVED FOR THE PROGRAM FROM BECKER FARM LOCAL NURSERY UM AND ALSO THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING ITS LOCAL TO E. STEWART. I DID HAVE A REQUEST SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY RESIDENTS, UM, COME FORWARD WITH APPLICATION. I DID HAVE A REQUEST TO PLANT FEW TREES IN THE MLK PART. UM SO THAT'S SOMETHING I GUESS I WOULD NEED YOUR APPROVAL IF WE'RE ABLE TO USE SOME TREES FOR THE PARK. AND PUBLIC WORKS WOULD INSTALL IT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY WOULD NEED TO DO. AH THEY WERE JUST INSTALL THE TREES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. CAN I MAKE A MOTION NOW TO DO THAT? YES, BECAUSE I NEED TO DO I'M MOVED THAT WE DO THAT SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. AND I HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU CAN, MR CHAIR. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE EMOTION. FEDERAL REQUEST TO PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES THAT UM, MISS CONNORS OFFICE WAS THAT WITHIN THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE RESIDENTIAL TREE PROGRAM. IN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MY DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
UM SO AS THE IDEA THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO CAPITALIZE ON THE FACT THAT THE LANDSCAPERS ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE OUT DOING ALL THIS WORK AND WE HAVE A DEAL TO GET THESE TREES JUST TO PLANT THEM IN THIS AREA, GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT. FIRST IT'S GOING AHEAD WITH THE NEXT PHASE PHASED AREA THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. I THINK WE'VE YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT WE CHOSE THIS AREA FIRST. USING THE GPS DATA AND THE SHADE CANOPY FOR THAT FOR THIS WHOLE AREA OF THE CITY IS A IS, YOU KNOW IT'S WHY WE DID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND SO , UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING THEM IN PARKS. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT, I THINK YOU KNOW? WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE SOME FOLKS SEEING THE TREES GO IN. WHO MAYBE WERE HESITANT. TO GO GET ONBOARD WITH THE PROGRAM IN THE FIRST PHASE MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, I SURE WOULD LIKE A TREE NOW. UM SO THAT'S MY ONLY. HESITATION HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPERS OUT, WE'RE ALREADY GONNA BE ORDERING THE TREES.
THERE'S AN ECONOMY THERE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. AND IF WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE PARK, THEN I'D RATHER GET HIM WHILE WE CAN. MM HMM. UM THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THAT ABOUT THE BIG TREES AND IN THE SHADE TREES AND THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. MAYBE THIS IS FOR ANOTHER TIME. WHAT WITH REGARD TO MARTIN LUTHER KING JR PARK AND THE POSSIBLY CLOSING OF THE
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PORK AVENUE ROAD NOT POSSIBLE WHEN IT WILL CLOSE BASED SUNDAY. THE RAILROAD. I JUST WANTED TO JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WOULD BE CONSIDERING. PUTTING UP UM.TREES LIKE A TREE LINE OF SOLUTIONS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD KIND OF BLOCKS SOME OF THE IMPACT OF ANY I DON'T KNOW, SUIT OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT COMES FROM THE TRAIN'S COMING BY THAT COMES INTO THE PARK AND EVEN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE SOUND OR JUST AMBIANCE. UM, ALONG THE WORLD WE HAVE TREES ALONG THERE ON SOME PARTS OF THE RAILROAD TRACK, BUT I'M THINKING THAT INSIDE THE PARK ITSELF IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THERE, THAT WOULD, UM I DON'T KNOW, SOMEWHAT BLOCKED THE VIEW OF THE RAILROAD AS WELL AS JUST CREATED AMBIENCE IN THE PARK WHERE YOU YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HEAR THE TRAIN. WHAT YOU DEPENDENT WHOLE HIGH CALLUSES AND STUFF. GET IF YOU GET IT TO SIX SPEED OR WHATEVER IS IT THAT AGREED ON? I'M JUST THINKING THAT MAYBE THAT THAT'S A MILTON THING, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. TO MAKE THE PORK. ARE MORE BETTER COMMONPLACE AND NOT HAVE IT SO STARK UP AGAINST RAILROAD TRACK AS IT IS NOW. SO NOT ONLY THOSE STREETS, BUT I'M THINKING OF OTHER TYPES OF TREES. THERE IS A PLAN THAT I RECENTLY SAW THAT PANEL SENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE BY A CITIZEN FOR THAT ENTIRE WAS INDECENT RICH FOR THAT ENTIRE PLAYGROUND AREA AND HER AND SOME FRIENDS THAT SOME WORK ON THAT AND ACTUALLY LOOKS PRETTY DECENT, THE STUFF THEY'RE PUTTING IN THERE, SO I PLAN TO EVALUATE THAT AND I'LL WORK WITH MISS CONNIE SOLVE THIS ON. YOU KNOW THE TRUTH PLACEMENT VERSUS THE OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY WERE LASTING FOR THE PARK. AND PROBABLY TRYING TO FUND THAT IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AH! AND. SORRY AND SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEN MR MORTAL LEAVE. OKAY I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP UNTIL MR MORE JEALOUS IN THE ROOM, SO MAYBE I'LL I DON'T KNOW . CAN I LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THIS AND YEAH, AND STICK WITH THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THIS CITY PLANTING TREES ON MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK. AND THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY BOARD MEMBER CAMPAIGNING. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MEYER.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT MOTION. I HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. PAUL. THERE'S NO COMMENT VIA ZOOM. HEARING NONE. THE SMELL. YOU GET PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. YES. BOARD MEMBER BRUNER? YES. VICE CHAIRPERSON MCDONALD YES. CHAIRPERSON MATHESON. YES. BOARD MEMBER MEYER YES. BOARD MEMBER CLARK YES. AND BOARD MEMBER COMPANY. YES. SO MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO EVEN THOUGH MR MORTAL IS NOT IN THE ROOM, I JUST MAKE THE COMMENT FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE TREES YOU WERE GIVEN A LITTLE REPORT THAT AN OPEN ALLAH'S STILL GONNA GIVE A REPORT. BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS THAT THAT THE LIKE MAYBE ANOTHER 10 TREES ARE SO WAR WOULD HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AT LEAST A BIG AREA OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. ALONG CHURCH STREET, LAKE STREET, AND SO ON IN THAT AREA YOU MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY IN FRONT OF GERTRUDE WALDON, AND I THINK HAVING THAT KIND OF RESPONSE FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. BOARD WHICH IS UP IN FORT PIERCE. AND THEN US, NOT, UM, BEING ABLE TO AH, PARTICIPATE DIRECTLY WITH THEM. I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A BOARD OF CITIZENS THAT WE APPOINT, WHICH IS WHY I WAS GOING TO ASK ME SOME MORE DOUGH TO SAY SOMETHING AGAIN ABOUT HOW THAT IS. RUN. BECAUSE. WE DON'T RUN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PER SE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INPUT IN IT . AND WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT. IS AFFECTED BY THE MANAGEMENT AND THE WAY THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I THINK THAT THIS JUST KIND OF BRINGS IT OUT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK INTO HER. CONSIDER HAVING MORE, UM ABILITY TO BE IN CONTROL. BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAD NOT HAD THAT CONTROL FOR THE PAST 40 SOMETHING YEARS OR HARBOR ALONG THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS BEEN THERE SINCE, PROBABLY THE MID SIXTIES. AND I JUST THINK THAT JUST JUST BRINGS IT. IT'S IT SEEMS SIMPLE, BUT IT JUST BRINGS IT TO THAT, YOU KNOW. WE'RE HOW WE EVER GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE. THAT'S POSITIVE FOR THE CITY WITH THE
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HOUSING AUTHORITY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A REAL INPUT INTO THEIR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. MR CHAIR. SORRY I AGREE WITH THE THOUGHT. I JUST WANT TO BE SENSITIVE JUST FOR A POINT OF ORDER. WE ALREADY HAD TO PUSH THIS ITEM THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FROM LAST MEETING. SO IF MAYBE.COULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE STATEMENT BECAUSE HE BROUGHT UP THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I AGREE. BUT I CAN ADDRESS THEM. OKAY. WELL, YES. UP TO YOU. YOU WANT TO HEAR IT NOW? SO I MYSELF AND I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WITH MANAGEMENT THERE. I KNOW THAT IT'S AN INTERIM DIRECTOR THERE. I DO. I HAVE REACHED OUT AND GOT ALL OF THE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO REAFFIRM ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENT, AND SO I REACHED OUT AND GOT ALL THE NAMES AND CONTACT EMAILS FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND I CAN PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU GUYS, IF YOU LIKE, IF YOU LIKE TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AS TO THE WAY THINGS MAYBE GOING AND IT MIGHT BE TIME THAT THEY REASSUMED MANAGEMENT LOCALLY. THANK YOU. WE WILL ALL STRIVE TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH STUART HOUSING AUTHORITY. INDIVIDUALLY FOR NOW, AND PERHAPS AS A COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE. MOVING ON. TO OUR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE
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AMENDMENT TO THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ACCELERATOR (REDA) PROGRAM (RC):
RESOLUTION No. 01-2022 CRA; A RESOLUTION TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRPERSON TO APPROVE AMENDMENT TO THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ACCELERATOR (REDA) PROGRAM TO PROMOTE THE REVITALIZATION OF TARGETED PROPERTIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
]AMENDMENT TO THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ACCELERATOR PROGRAM RESOLUTION NUMBER 0 1-2022. MS CANDY SERVICE. THANK YOU. UM THIS PROGRAM REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER ACCELERATOR PILOT PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2000 AND 18 EXCUSE ME, LIKE CAN HARDLY HEAR YOU. SORRY THIS IS BETTER. YES. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2000 AND 18 TO ACTIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES IN THE SCIARRA WHEN THE ACCOUNT ECONOMY WAS DIFFERENT, UM AND IT WAS TO REALLY ACCELERATE THE TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF TIMES OF THE PROJECTS WERE APPROVED AND THEY WERE JUST NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE INCENTIVES WAS TO ACCELERATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. CURRENTLY THE PROJECT THE PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE TO ALL THE PROPERTIES COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. IN THE C. R. A UH AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AMENDING THE PROGRAM AND PROVIDING THE PROGRAM TO TARGETED PROPERTIES THAT IS GETTING LESS INTEREST FROM DEVELOPERS AND CONTINUE THE PROGRAM AND THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD. SINCE THE PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED, YOU KNOW YOU YOU'VE SEEN THROUGH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH CITY COMMISSION. THE DEMAND AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED IN THE SIERRA. WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY PROJECTS AS WE DO TODAY. SO UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST ON PROPERTIES ALONG. UM ARE RIVER WATERFRONT PROPERTIES SOME OF THE PRIME PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE SCIARRA. BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME PROPERTIES IN THE SIERRA THAT WILL NEED THAT INCENTIVE TO MOTIVATE THE DEVELOPERS TO CONSIDER REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. SO SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED OUR HAVE BEEN ABANDONED OR BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME. WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE IMPROVEMENT VALUES ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE PROPERTY VALUES. SO IF WE, UM, THOSE PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED IN THIS , UM, THE AMENDMENT TO THE PROGRAM TO HELP IMPROVE THE OVERALL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW IF THEY IF THEY DO REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ON THOSE THE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED ABOUT 34 PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED FOR THE PROGRAM AND THE ENTIRE USE E. STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE ENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. UM STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE TARGETED PROPERTY SELECTED BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS PROVIDING THE AGENDA ITEM WILL HAVE THE MOST BENEFIT TO THE SIERRA. HOWEVER I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT JUST BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT IDENTIFIED ON THIS MAP DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM. AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE CRITERIA THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR THE PROGRAM. UM THOSE CRITERIAS WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR THE GUIDELINES, THE PROPERTY WILL BE LIMITED TO URBAN GENERAL URBAN CENTER URBAN HIGHWAY. OR THE EASTWARD CO DISTRICT, AND THE PARCEL SHALL BE VACANT OR THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE ON THE PROPERTY IS LESS THAN THE LAND VALUE OR THE PARCEL IS FIVE ACRES OR MORE. SO THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA USED TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE TARGETED PROPERTY MAP. UM STAFF IS ALSO PROPOSING THAT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT FOR THE PROJECT IN THE EAST STEWART BE REDUCED TO $300,000 IN A LOT
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OF THAT DEVELOPERS TO INCLUDE SEVERAL SMALLER PARCELS. FOR DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO MEET THE MINIMUM CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY ARE MINIMUM CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE C R A IS $1 MILLION. SO I STAFF IS PROPOSING A DIFFERENT AMOUNT FOR EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD STAFF IS LOOKING FOR FREED BACK ON THE TARGETED PROPERTIES AND MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 1-2022 AMENDMENT TO THE READER PROGRAM. THANK YOU, MISS GUNNY SERVICE. REMEMBER MAYA. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. OKAY, SO, UM WE APPROVED THE READER. SOON AFTER I JOINED THIS BOARD, AND AT THAT TIME THIS WAS BEFORE THE EXPLOSION OF DEVELOPMENT EVERYWHERE AND IN THE CITY. UM AND AT THAT TIME THE IDEA WAS WE NEEDED. THE IDEA WAS THAT WE NEEDED AN INCENTIVE TO KIND OF OVERCOME SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF GETTING DEVELOPMENT GOING AND GET IT GOING FASTER. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD ALL OF THAT. UM WHERE WE ARE NOW IS. WE COMMISSION AT LEAST AND HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE ADVISORY BOARDS HAVE BEEN. BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO SORT OF SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM AND OUR SCIARRA. I THINK WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED THAT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY GROWTH, ANY DEVELOPMENT IN PHILA REDEVELOPMENT THAT THAT IT OUGHT TO OCCUR IN THE SIERRA AND I STILL FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT HOWEVER. UM, QUESTION NOW. THE. POINT OF THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM WHEN THE MARKET IS THE WAY IT IS. UM AND MAYBE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN TAILOR THIS EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I WILL SAY I'M I AM. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN THAT THAT NOT EVERY SINGLE PARCEL WITHIN THE C R A OUGHT TO BE A TARGET MAY BE ELIGIBLE, BUT NOT OUGHT TO BE A TARGET FOR THIS BECAUSE THE POINT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO OVERCOME THE MARKET CHALLENGES.WE DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WAY WE WANT TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE TO OVERCOME THE MARKET CHALLENGES THAT PREVENT DEVELOPMENT OF SOME OF THESE TARGETED PERSON. PARCELS MAKE TOTAL SENSE TO ME.
THEY'VE BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR A LONG TIME. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME REASON WHY THAT THE MARKET HASN'T OVERCOME THAT CHALLENGE. RITA SEEMS LIKE AN APPROPRIATE THING TO TARGET ON THERE.
HOWEVER, I HAVE MIGHT. I'LL KIND OF CONDENSE MY COMMENTS INTO THREE MAIN GROUPS. ONE IS I DO HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH US BLANKET. BLANKETING THE EAST STEWART. COMMUNITY WITH THIS READER PROGRAM. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT HE STEWART NEEDS HELP, BUT BECAUSE THIS TO ME, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THIS IS GENTRIFICATION. IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WORRIED ABOUT. IT'S WHAT WE'VE ALL WORRIED ABOUT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EVERY SINGLE PARCEL IN THE EASTWARD COMMUNITY AND SLAP A AN INCENTIVE. TO DEVELOP IT WHEN MANY OF THOSE PARCELS ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND HAVE STABLE FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES AND ARE IN SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN ONLY RECENTLY BUILT ON THAT TO ME IS AN INCENTIVE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN , OUT OF OUT OF TOWN. DEVELOPERS COME IN, BUY UP PARCELS AND THAT'S THAT'S TRUE GENTRIFICATION. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE EAST STEWART PARCELS IN THIS I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THEM TO BE. UNDEVELOPED PARCELS OR PARCELS THAT HAVE FALLEN DOWN STRUCTURES WITH LEANS THAT SORT OF THING. THAT IS THE MARKET CHALLENGE WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME. I BELIEVE I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVE BEEN PUSHED OUT. THE SECOND. AH IDEA I HAVE IS NOT NECESSARILY ON THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT RATHER IN THIS POINT SCORING PROCESS. UM WE ASSIGN RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY, AND IT HASN'T BEEN PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED IN THE GUIDELINES AND ALL IF YOU DON'T MIND SCROLLING DOWN JUST A HAIR ELIGIBILITY E. AND THEN IT'S OKAY. SO THE CRITERIA TO GO DOWN EVEN FURTHER YET. UM OKAY, SO WE HAVE. WE'VE STRICKEN REHABILITATION OR RENOVATION OF UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS SET TO, BUT THEN WE SAY, PROVIDING A VARIETY OF QUALITY MARKET RATE HOUSING CHOICES. MARKET LEASE RATES. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED WHEN WE SAY MARKET IT GOES UP. UM SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL NOTICED THIS TOO. FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. ANYWAY WE DON'T THE MARKET DOESN'T NEED ANY INCENTIVES TO BUILD. THEY'RE BUILDING. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL, ESPECIALLY IF THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON THIS MAP FOR TARGETING OUR ANDY STEWART. THIS POINT SCORE, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET A POINT FOR PUTTING MARKET RATE HOUSING IN THERE. SO I WANT
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TO TIGHTEN THAT LANGUAGE UP. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE STRIKE THAT. AND PUT IN SOMETHING LIKE WE'VE GOT A TIE TOO. AM I 80% AMI. SO THAT IT'S. BEHOLDEN TO THE WORKFORCE OF OUR AREA.SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED AN INCENTIVE TO GIVE A DEVELOPER MONEY BACK IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD MARKET RATE HOUSING, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. UM, AND THEN THE THIRD POINT IS WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO INCREASE THE VALUES OF SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, SOME OF WHICH ARE QUITE OLD, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANTS IN TRAON FRANKENSTEIN, WHERE I'D LIKE TO GO HAVE A BEER AND A HOT DOG CHEAP AFTER A LONG DAY AT THE FARM. OR AUTO CLINIC RIGHT NORTH OF IT. THOSE ARE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND SURE THEY'RE NOT GLAMOROUS. BUT THAT'S OLD TIMERS. REMEMBER THEM FOREVER. AND I WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOSE ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES THEY IF THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTIES. THEY MIGHT ALSO BE CAUGHT UP IN THIS SORT OF GENTRIFICATION AND BE PUSHED OUT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING SPARKLY , SHINY AND NEW IS BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY. YES INCREASING THE PROPERTY VALUES, INCREASING THE TAX BASE. GOOD FOR THE BOTTOM LINE. BUT. THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, PUSHING OUT ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES THAT PROVIDE GOOD JOBS. FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE MARKET IS SO HOT RIGHT NOW. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE I'LL START . THANK YOU. I'M IN REAL QUICKLY, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION JUST FOR ANY PUSHBACK. THE REASON THAT THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD WAS INCLUDED IN ITS ENTIRETY WAS BECAUSE THE E STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD IN EVERY ONE OF ITS WORKSHOPS AS RECENTLY AS LAST MONTH. HAS BEEN ADAMANT THAT THEY WANT THE CITY OF STEWART TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES AND BY NO MEANS DID THE DIRECTOR OF THE SIERRA OR ANYBODY IN STAFF INTEND TO GENTRIFY OR TO PUT ANYBODY OUT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T INTEND THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE RECORD THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO EAST STEWART'S REQUEST AS IT PERTAINED TO THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS I WENT TO FRANKENSTEIN'S WHEN IT USED TO BE ABOUT THE PIZZA. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. I KNOW. OKAY SO, YEAH, I'M A LITTLE YOUNGER THAN YOU. SO I'VE REALLY ONLY EVER KNOWN IT THERE, BUT YEAH, LET ME JUST CLARIFY MR CHAIR. YES AND I APOLOGIZE. NO AND NO WAY DID I WANT TO INSINUATE THAT STAFF HAD ANY ULTERIOR MOTIVE. BUT SO THEY THINK THEY THINK THE TRUTH ABOUT GENTRIFICATION. AND IT'S A REAL THING IS NOT THAT ANYBODY IS TRYING TO DO IT. GENTRIFICATION HAPPENS. BECAUSE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. IT HAPPENS SNEAKILY BECAUSE OF PROGRAMS THAT HAVE REALLY GOOD INTENTIONS . AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WANT US TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING VERY CAREFUL. WELL WHAT CAN ONE SAY AFTER MY FRIENDS, FELLOW BOARD MEMBER. AND MY MENTOR ON THIS POINT. HAS SAID ALMOST EVERYTHING I WOULD SAY THE ONLY EXCEPTION. I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS, I THINK EASTWARD. SHOULD HAVE THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LOWER IT TO LIKE $250,000 TO ENCOURAGE THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS OR CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO IT, AND MAYBE WE DO LEAVE IT AT VACANT. AND NOT CURRENT, NOT NOT BUILT PROPERTY AT THIS PRESENT TIME, AND WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT YEAR. BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, EXCEPT A LITTLE TWEAKING ON THAT BOARD MEMBERS. MY POINT MEMBER, CLARK.
YOU CAN GO SOME. OKAY, UM JUST I THINK I AGREE WITH TOM ON THE ON THE STUART ASPECT AND ON THE ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN AND USED FRANKENSTEIN AND THE AUTOCRATIC , FOR EXAMPLE, UM, BY THE WAY, I NEVER BEEN TO FRANKENSTEIN AND WE NEED TO GET MORE. TELL THE TRUE OY. I KNOW, BUT MY WIFE HATES HOT DOGS. YEAH SO BUT ANYWAYS, UM YOU KNOW, FIRST MARKETS ARE REAL ESTATE MARKETS ARE UP AND DOWN AND WE TAKE A PRODUCT PRETTY, UM, AUTO CLINIC OR, FOR EXAMPLE. OF. IT'S AN OWNER. ACTUALLY, I HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO BE THE OWNER OF THE REAL ESTATE OWNS THAT SO WELL. OH WE'RE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE THESE PROPERTIES SOE SAYING CAN WE DON'T WANT CURRENT SMALL BUSINESSES TO BE PUSHED OUT BY THE LANDLORD. THAT SELF PROPERTY BUT A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES. ARE OWNED BY THE BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN I DON'T KNOW WHO WHAT THE SITUATION WAS. FRANKENSTEIN IS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND IT'S POSSIBLE THEY OWN IT. THEY MAYBE NOT. I KNOW AUTO CLINIC DOES. THERE'S OTHER ONES. TO A AND IF THIS HELPS AT
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SOME POINT WHEN THEY DECIDED TO CASH OUT SO TO SPEAK, AND WE CAN GET SOMEBODY COMING IN THAT WILL DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN JUST SLIDE. FACE THEM OR. MAYBE, BUT MAYBE NOT AS GOOD BUSINESS IN THERE. I'M I'M I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH ITSELF. OKAY? SO, UM. HOW CAN I SAY THAT? I SEMI AGREE WITH MR MAYAN. MR. CAMPENNI. I'VE SAID IT. UM SO BUT, YEAH, BUT ONLY AND FOR ANOTHER REASON , IN ADDITION TO THE GENTRIFICATION IT'S HASN'T BEEN VERY LONG. I MEAN, PEOPLE, I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE IN THE STEWART AND I HEAR CITY MANAGER SAYING THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHETHER IT'S LOW INTEREST LOANS OR SOME INCENTIVE OF SOME TYPE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT ALSO HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG SINCE PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET LOANS AND WE'RE LITERALLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST TO GET LOANS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO OWNED PROPERTY NEEDS STEWART AND THEN WHEN THEY OWN PROPERTY. I THINK PEOPLE ARE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AFRAID BECAUSE I REALLY HAVEN'T. UH I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING ANECDOTALLY AND FROM AN ARTICLE THAT I JUST LISTENED TO RECENTLY ON NPR WITH REGARD TO BLACK FARMERS, UM, AND TODAY BEING THE LAST DAY OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND WE THINK OF THE STRUGGLES THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THROUGH. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROGRAM . I THINK THAT THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROGRAM WHERE THEY'VE HAD THEIR PROPERTY FOR 30 40 YEARS. YES SOME OF IT MAY BE UNDEVELOPED, OR SOME OF IT MAY NEED SOME HELP. TO GET INTO, UM ACTIVE. COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL USE.BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE SETTLED . AND THEN THAT PARTICULAR THING COMES AND HURTS THEM. AND THEN THEY END UP WITH THE SCENARIO THAT MR MYERS TALKING ABOUT.
WHERE SOMEBODY NOT WANTS TO SAY HEY, IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE A LONER, IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE GOING THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL BUY OUT YOUR PROPERTY AND TAKE IT FROM YOU. SO IT IS A VERY, VERY FINE LINE. IT'S A VERY, VERY TOUGH THING. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD MEETINGS AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD INPUT FROM PEOPLE AND I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. ESPECIALLY I KNOW THAT BANANAS REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS VERY LARGE AREA, WHICH IS THE EASTWARD AREA, AND THERE ARE OTHER SELECTED PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT UM, THOSE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO THIS AGAIN. I'D SAY THAT IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT THIS WAY, LET'S OPEN IT UP TO MAYBE A SIX MONTH THING. SEE IF ANYBODY COMES IN AND USES THE MONEY. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP PEOPLE EITHER ACCESS FUNDS TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE SUSPICIOUS, OR THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THEIR MONEY INTO SOMETHING TO JOIN IN, AND THEY THINK, WELL, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HELP ME, BUT IT MIGHT BE JUST ENOUGH TO HURT ME. WHEN I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY REGULAR HOME THAT I LIVE IN, PLUS MY INVESTMENT PROPERTY THAT I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH. IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS. UM HAD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS.
THOMAS DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE CAN REVISIT THE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD. I LIKE SOME OF THE COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT PERHAPS CONSTRICTING IT. WITH THE POSSIBILITY TOWARDS TOWARDS UNIMPROVED LAND IN THE STEWART. UH HUH. I'D LIKE TO COMMENTS OF PERHAPS REDUCING IT FROM 300 TO 250. UM AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR IF WE ADJUSTED THE POINTS SYSTEM FROM ENCOURAGING MARKET RATE TO 80% AM I IS THERE ANY CATCH BY THE STATE LEGISLATOR THAT WE'D HAVE. TO NO MAKEUP PROGRAM INCENTIVES. YEAH JUST WANTED MONEY AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE SIERRA PLAN, AND YOU PROVIDE IT TO EVERYONE THAT QUALIFIES FOR A CRIME THAT DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE. YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. YEAH JUST JUST SO THAT WE ARE. THIS IS NOT ALONE, THOUGH, RIGHT? THIS IS A SET OF SO THAT ANYONE WHO TAKES IT WILL NOT OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING. MUCH MONEY, YOU CREDIT BACK ON TOP OF MONEY GENERATED FROM TAXES. YOU INCREASE YOUR
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TAX BILL. YOU PAY YOUR TAXES IN FULL AND THEN YOU GET 30% OF WHAT YOU PAID OR UP TO, WHATEVER THE NUMBER BEING BACK, BUT IT'S NOT UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE PAID YOUR TAXES IN FULL, AND THAT'S WHY I HAD TO PUT THAT WITH OTHER MONEY SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE TO THINK OF THAT HAS TO GO WITHOUT THE MONEY. THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH MONEY FROM OTHER SOURCES IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY DO DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER MEYER WELL SO I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, AND I'D BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION. MAYBE IT'S TOO COMPLICATED TO TRY TO HIT ALL THOSE POINTS AND EMOTION . I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHAIR WOULD PREFER. IF WE NOW WITH THIS GUIDE GUIDANCE IF WE CAN MAKE CLARIFY THE GUIDANCE AND HAVE STAFF BRING IT BACK, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU PROBABLY TO SPEAK SMARTER SO THAT WE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE. OKAY SO I AGREE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO BE ALL RIGHT WITH US, LIMITING IT IN THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD TO UNDEVELOPED PARCELS. AND ALSO TO THOSE WHICH HAVE, LIKE I SAID. STRUCTURAL STRUCTURES ON THEM, WHICH MIGHT HAVE LEANS, WHICH ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE OR CODE THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S THE MARKET CHALLENGE TO OVERCOME.POTENTIALLY UM, IN FAVOR OF DROPPING DOWN THAT NUMBER TO 200 OR 250. WHATEVER. IT MAY BE, UM I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE COMMISSIONERS. THE BOARD MEMBERS IDEA OF ALONE. I WANT TO PUT A PIN IN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING SEPARATE FROM THIS THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT, BUT BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE I MEAN, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM ANYMORE IF THERE IS A PROVISION IN IT THAT THAT ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT THAT. POINTS TO EXTRA TIP SHARING IS MARKET RATE HOUSING. WE EITHER STRIKE THAT COMPLETELY OR IDEALLY, WE REPLACE IT WITH A UM. WITH SOME SORT OF A ME, I WOULD SAY, LET'S SAY I'LL START WITH 80. OR LESS. COMMISSION MCDONALD'S. I WILL SUPPORT THE 80% AM BY INSTRUCTING THE MARKET RATE. UM I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE GOOD AND GETTING OLD IS ABSURD TO LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT OF ODDNESS AND. AND ACTUALLY YOU. DID YOU FIND WITH THE 200? OH, I KNOW IT WAS. WHAT ABOUT REPURPOSE BUILDINGS TO BE REPURPOSED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WINNER GARY PROPERTY ANDY STEWART. THAT'S NOT VACANT. BUT I THINK. WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT BUT MAYBE COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT CAN BE REPURPOSED INTO SOMETHING ELSE. I I'M SORRY. I WAS A LITTLE OVERZEALOUS. MY MAIN ANXIETY WITH THIS WAS THE RESIDENTIAL. PARCELS THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE STORY. YES, CERTAINLY THE GARY PROPERTY ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THESE IN THE EASTWARD DISTRICT THAT I WOULD I WOULD BE FINE WITH HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN OPEN TO COMMERCIAL AND HOW DID THE COMMERCIAL NEEDS ? STUART YOU'RE LEAVING ANY STEWART? IS THIS THIS DISCUSSION AND HOW DID THE BOARD FEEL ABOUT THE COST? COMPARISON OF THE LAND VALUE VERSUS THE IMPROVEMENTS ON IT? TALKING. WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BOARDS OKAY FOR OPEN TO COMMERCIAL. THROUGHOUT EAST STEWART. WELL, THAT WOULD BE A LIMITATION OF THE ZONING FRICTION. RIGHT AND THE LAND USY WHY IT'S BEST THAT WE'RE GIVING DIRECTION RATHER THAN TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION. UM STAFF WILL KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO EACH INDIVIDUAL THE LIMITATION ON EACH PARCEL BY LAND USE AND ZONING. UM I KNOW THAT SOME OF IT REQUIRES SOME EXCUSE OR THERE CAN BE SOME COMMERCIAL. BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME PARCELS IN THESE STEWART THAT DO NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL RIGHT. SO THE BM YOU BUSINESS MIXED UNIT. I BELIEVE THAT HAS TO HAVE SOME COMMERCIALS. CONCURRENT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH WHAT? HOWEVER WE CRAFT US THAT WE DON'T CREATE THE OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF COUPLE UNDEVELOPED PARCELS ON A RESIDENTIAL ONLY STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF EAST STEWART THAT GET BOUGHT UP AND THEN TURNED INTO YOU KNOW. A GAS STATION OR WHATEVER COMMERCIAL THAT THAT EXISTING COMMERCIAL PARCELS. COULD BE EXISTING, JUST SAY EXISTING EXISTING STAFF WILL KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I GUESS THEY JUST MAKING SURE THEY GET THE GIST OF WHAT WE'VE NOW A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION. FAST FEW MINUTES HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED ON THE EAST STEWART AREA, BUT BROADENING IT TO THE ENTIRE SIERRA, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. DO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE? I'M NOT. I'M
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NOT IN LOVE. I'VE NEVER BEEN IN LOVE WITH THIS PROGRAM. YEAH, AND I THINK. MEYER HAS SAID IT VERY WELL. IN THAT GIVING PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING PROPERTY AT MARKET RATES. ESPECIALLY NORTH OF THE BRIDGE NOW, WHICH IS SO HOT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE QUITE. THERE AND WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS INTENDED TO DO A RITUAL. FOR ME . I TEND TO AGREE WITH THOSE COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. THE MARKET SEEMS TO BE EXTREMELY HOT. THERE ISN'T MUCH. NEEDED ROOM FOR INCENTIVIZING, ALTHOUGH I DO HEAR AND I'M HAPPY WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON A STEWART FOR THREE YEARS.I'VE BEEN SAYING COMMENTS LIKE THERE'S 60 UNDEVELOPED LOTS OF STEWART, AND THAT'S THE AREA WHERE WE CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT THE NEED. OVERALL FOR HOUSING. NO. TIGHTENING THIS DOWN TO TRYING TO FOCUS YOU KNOW, ON UNDEVELOPED LOTS AND HE STEWART. UM THAT CLEARLY SEEMS LIKE IT'S STILL NEEDS AND INCENTIVE. BUT FOR NOW, AND WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WE CAN BRING THIS UP AND TWEAK IT. AS NEEDED. SO KNOW THAT WE NEED A MOTION. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED IN 2000 AND 18, WE DID HAVE A NEED FOR HOUSING. WE ONLY HAD ONE MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND TRIANGLE DISTRICT IN OVER 20 YEARS, SO THERE WAS A NEED FOR AN OBVIOUSLY WE REVISITING IT AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CRITERIA. SO I DO AGREE WITH THAT. AND HAS PUT A CLARIFICATION. YOU. MR MEYER WAS CORRECT. YOU DID ADOPT THE READER PROGRAM. READ. THE PROGRAM IS IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT. THEREFORE IF TODAY SOMEBODY WERE TO APPLY FOR RITA THEY QUALIFY UNDER THE CURRENT PROGRAM UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS BOARD. ALTERS THE PROGRAM. SO IF YOU WERE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM, ANY APPLICATIONS YOU'VE GOT IN FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WE'D GO TO THE CRITERIA UNDER THE OLD PROGRAM. NOT UNDER THE NEW PROGRAM. SO THE QUESTION OF WHEN YOU WANT TO TRIGGER THAT.
STARTING DATE. PROBABLY WOULD BE SOONER THAN LATER. UNDERSTOOD, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THIS DIRECTION INCORPORATED INTO THE NEXT YEAR, ALL RIGHT? AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT'S CORRECT CURRENTLY HAVE THIS, BUT THE SIERRA APPROVES THE READER PROGRAM. IT HAS TO COME BEFORE US FOR APPROVAL, SO YOU KNOW NOW THAT WE'VE MADE IT REMINDED THAT EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT THIS HAPPENS. UM, WE I MEAN, IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE PROJECTS CONSIDERED A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND IT'S CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL BY CRB IN SIERRA SO YOU KNOW, MIKE THERE'S NO ZIP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, RIGHT? NO, LIKE A ZONE. WE DON'T NEED A ZIP. AH. OKAY, OKAY. RIGHT? UM, THE OKAY? MR CHAIR BOARD MEMBER. BRUNER HAS A IF I HAVE A LITTLE HOUSE AND, UH ANDY STEWART. IT'S ONLY ON MY PROPERTY, AND IT'S ONLY WORTH OF. MAYBE $75,000. HOW DO I BORROW? IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED MORE. WHO CAN AND CAN'T MONEY. SO THE CITY OF STEWART DOESN'T ISSUE CREDIT.
BUT THANKS TO COME ON. AND THERE'S LOTS OF PRIVATE LENDERS. UM. BUT THE WAY THIS PROGRAM WOULD WORK IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $250,000 OR MORE IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM, OKAY? THING. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ASKING, OKAY? SO MR. EXPLAIN MYSELF. YEAH. MRS GANDHI SAMPLES. WE HAVE SOME DIRECTION.
UM WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU DON'T NEED OFFERING ONE, BUT PERHAPS IT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK. YES. HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL? MR CHAIR. IF I CAN MAKE ONE MORE SUGGESTION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA WITH THE HOUSING IS IT WORTH US? PONDERING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. AS AN ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA IN HERE. WELL, YOU'RE GONNA IS THAT GOING TO BE. AND THAT UNIT WOULD HAVE TO BE OVER 200. 1,000,000. WELL, THAT'S A
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LONG YEAH, THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT I'M WORKING ON. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD THAT DISCUSSION. SURE, WE CAN HAVE THAT LATER. LET'S LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ESTABLISH THE FREEDOM WEEKEND ADJUSTED AS COMING FORWARD. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHEN YOU USE THAT WORD, GENTRIFICATION. I IT MAKES ME JUST WANT NO PART OF IT. IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH THING. IT'S HARD. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THANK YOU, MIKE. FOR ALL YOU SAID. ANOTHER. THAT IS. AS AS YOU SAID, AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE, AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO DO IS TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT. IN AREAS OF BLIGHT, AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS THAT SPEAR POINT. TO CERTAINLY NEEDED AREAS IN OUR CRM. SPECIFICALLY IN USED. TO MM. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NONE. DO NOT HAVE EMOTION. I'LL OPEN UP IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE DIRECTION HEARING NONE. I WILL ADJOURN. THE SIERRA MEETING.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.