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KNEW YOU WERE PARKING SWEET SONG. YEAH. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE CALLED TO ORDER. UM STAND UP FOR THE PLEDGE. PLEASURE, OKAY? FOR THE PLEDGE, PLEASE. GREAT. WHEN THE. UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I'LL NOW CALL ROLL CHAIR, LORENE. VICE CHAIR.
BROWNFIELD REMEMBER RICH REMEMBER STRAHM HERE? REMEMBER, MASSING, REMEMBER MATTERS.
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REMEMBER BY TALI. ALRIGHT FANTASTIC. WE HAVE TWO MINUTES TO APPROVE. FIRST DAY OF THE MEMBER MINUTES ON NOVEMBER 4TH 2021. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? HIGH OPPOSED? FANTASTIC ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE DECEMBER 9TH 2021. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? SOME MOVED SECOND. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, FANTASTIC. DO WE DO THE COMMENTS IN PUBLIC NOW OR WE GO IMMEDIATELY TO THE OTHER ONE.THE ORDER, SAYS THE COMMENTS FIRST. YES YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? THAT'S OKAY. IT'S HIS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY? AND THEN ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON AN AGENDA ITEMS ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON AN
[3. Annual Local Planning Agency Board Reorganization]
AGENDA ITEMS ALRIGHT, GREAT. OKAY WE ARE NOW GOING TO DO THE REORGANIZATION. THE ANNUAL BOARD REORGANIZATION. YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION FOR A CHAIR. ANYBODY HAVE EMOTION FOR CHAIR? STAYS WITH YOU. TURKEY CALORIES AS THE CHAIR ALSO GOING THERE. ALL IN FAVOR. I DON'T THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO CALL IT. HI HI. HI OPPOSED. THANKS A LOT. OKAY NOW VICE CHAIR. ANYBODY HAVE EMOTION FOR VICE CHAIR. I MOVED TO KEEP VICE CHAIR BROWNFIELD DOES THE VICE CHAIR SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED. FANTASTIC CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHTY SO WE'RE GONNA[4. INDIAN STREET STORAGE DEVELOPMENT: ORDINANCE 2482-2022 ; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD) FOR A 6.59-ACRE PROPERTY AT 1053 SOUTHEAST INDIAN STREET; LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE-HALF MILE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION AT WILLOUGHBY ROAD AND SE INDIAN STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, SAID LAND BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; ESTABLISHING THE BEE SAFE STORAGE CPUD CONSISTING OF ONE, THREE-STORY, 135,000-SQUARE-FOOT SELF STORAGE BUILDING AND EIGHT, ONE-STORY STORAGE BUILDINGS; PROVIDING FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS AND CONDITIONS; DECLARING THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU. CHAIR. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. UM SO WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. TODAY IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE C P U D FOR A 6.59 ACRE PROPERTY AT 1053 SOUTHEAST INDIAN STREET FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITY. IT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME EARLIER THAT THERE ARE REFERENCES TO INDUSTRIAL USE IN THE STAFF REPORT. THERE IS A CROSSOVER BETWEEN THIS DESCRIPTIVE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH SOMETIMES REFERRED TO STORAGES INDUSTRIAL USE IN THIS APPLICATION. THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY ONLY AND THAT WOULD BE THE USE THAT WOULD BE APPROVED DURING THIS APPLICATION. I HAVE MORE DETAILS ON THAT, AS WE MOVE THROUGH. SO THERE'S A SITE A ABANDONED COMMERCIAL NURSERY MEET WAS BROUGHT INTO THE CITY SOMETIME AGO. THE EXISTING ZONING IS A P U. D IT HAS A SPLIT COMMERCIAL AND PUBLIC. FUTURE LAND USE UNDERLYING THAT AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE NORTHERN EDGE. A AN AREA IN GREEN, WHICH IS DESIGNATED UNDER THE FUTURE, AND YOU SAYS PUBLIC IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PUBLIC UM, FUTURE LAND USE CAN BE USED FOR STORM WATER AND FLOOD CONTROL MEASURES, AND IN THIS INSTANCE WE HAVE A LARGE RETENTION DETENTION POND IN THE BACK. OF THE PROPERTY. SO HISTORY IT WAS. THIS SITE WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1998.IN ALSO AT THE SAME YEAR, IT WAS GRANTED A FUTURE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL AND A ZONING OF COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. NOW WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US APPLICATION FOR SELF STORAGE UNITS. SO THE REQUEST IS TO, UH FOR A MAJOR. P U D AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE
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CONSTRUCTION OF A 1000. SORRY 135,000 SQUARE FOOT ENCLOSED SELF STORAGE BUILDING AND THEN AT THE REAR OF THAT 81 STORY SELF STORAGE BUILDINGS. SO THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE BEING APPLIED UNDER THIS APPLICATION. SELF STORAGE FACILITY ONLY ISN'T GOING TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED SITE PLANS SHOULD SHOULD THEY BE REPROVED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS. WE HAVE A RULES AND REGULATIONS WHICH WILL BE ADOPTED AND IN THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UM I THINK PROBABLY MORE THAN 20 LINES OF THINGS THAT CANNOT BE DONE IN THOSE THINGS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK THAT THERE IS NO MODIFICATION OF THE CUBE UNITS THEMSELVES, AND THERE'S NO ALLOWANCE TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS OR HOBBY OR MANUFACTURER EXHIBIT OR SELL ITEMS FROM THE CUBE UNITS SO ENTIRELY SELF STORAGE.NO OTHER USERS PERMITTED IN THOSE SO HERE WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN. THERE'S A BUILDING FOOTPRINTS. THE PAVEMENT. PARKING AREAS. NOTE THAT PARKING IS NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO THE RARE OF THE MAIN BUILDING. PRIMARILY THEIR SELF STORAGE UNITS, AND PEOPLE WILL PARK AS THEY LOAD AND UNLOAD DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THOSE UNITS. YOU SEE THE RETENTION AND ATTENTION AND OTHER STORMWATER TREATMENT AREAS, THE LARGE AREA AGAIN TO THE NORTH OR AS YOU SEE IT HERE TO THE LEFT. OF THE SITE PLAN DEALS WITH SOME SUBSTANTIAL STORM WATER RETENTION. SORT OF NEW INGRESS E GRACE IS PROVIDED VIA INDIAN STREET, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME NEGOTIATION ON THAT WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY THE REAR BUILDINGS ARE RESTRICTED BY GATES AND SECURITY FENCE. ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CONCURRENCY REQUIREMENTS HAVING A MINIMAL TRIP GENERATION BECAUSE OF THE SELF STORAGE NATURE OF THE USE. IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND INTERESTING PORTION OF THE LANDSCAPING IS THE A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE EXISTING ON SITE WILL BE RETAINED ON SITE AND REPOSITIONED DURING THE PROCESS.
YOU SEE ALL THE, UM HIGHLIGHTED TREES. ROOMS. WILL BE REPLANTED AND REMOVE REPOSITIONED ON SITE.
THE ARCHITECTURE. WE REALLY DID NEGOTIATE HARD ON THE ARCHITECTURE TO GET SOME ARTICULATION ONTO THE FRONT BUILDING. UM AND TO MAKE IT TO BE LESS HAVE LESS MASS THAN I WOULD I WOULD NORMALLY ON A BIG LARGE FACADE OF THIS LENGTH. THE BUILDING IS 37 FT. TALL. 44 FT.
TALL TO THE TOP OF THE TOWER ELEMENT. LOTS OF ELEMENTS IN THE FACADE THEMSELVES. DUMMY DOORS.
GLASS, UM. CANOPIES LOTS OF JOINTS IN THE ELEVATION THEMSELVES TO HELP BREAK THEM UP. AH IN SOME SORT OF CONTRAST IN THE BUILDINGS TO THE REAR, WHICH ARE LESS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. THEY'RE FAIRLY PLAIN WE HAVE. WE DID HAVE A PICTURE OF ADDED TO THOSE. ESSENTIALLY THOSE ARE ALL YOUR TYPICAL SELF STORAGE UNITS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD STORE, UM PRIMARILY HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND RETRIEVE THEM WHEN THEY NEEDED TO. VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE IS THE STORM WATER.
DESIGNED AS EXCEED THE CITY AND SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS. ALL ON US WILL BE COLLECTED BY THE NEW DRAINAGE BASINS AND PIPES BEFORE BEING DIRECTED INTO THE TO TRY RETENTION BASINS ON SITE. ALL RUNOFF STORED WITHIN THE ON SITE RETENTION BASIN BASINS AND WILL THEN BE INFILTRATED BACK INTO THE GROUNDWATER TABLE. NO DISCHARGE STRUCTURES ARE PROPOSED. THE PERIMETER BERMS WILL BE SET AT 100. YEAH. THREE DAY STORM EVENT. THERE'S A STORM WATER MAINTENANCE PLAN, PART OF THE APPROVED DOCUMENTS AND VARIOUS PLANT MATERIALS
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PROPOSED. AH GOING TO BE LOCATED INTO THE AREAS TO HELP REMOVE POLLUTANTS. WE DID HAVE. THREE REQUESTED CALLED HIM WAVE IS OLD VARIANCES IF YOU LIKE. TWO STANDARD CODE OR IS A SETBACK, PARKING SPACE AND SIDEWALK AND OF THOSE THE ONES THAT, UM I'LL EXPLAIN IN A MOMENT THAT WE SUPPORT AND THE ONE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE AN INCREASE OF THE SIDEWALK WITH SO THEY. THE FIRST WAVE OF DEALS WITH THE REDUCED OUTSIDE YARD SETBACK. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THE APPLICANT AS REQUESTED A REDUCTION IN THAT. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE ENHANCE THAT. OFFER TO THE MAXIMUM BY ENCOURAGING AND ACTUALLY REQUIRING IN.UNDERSTORY PLANTING, UM, TO A LARGE EXTENT TO HELP BUFFER THAT SIDE ELEVATION. IT IS A COMMERCIAL USE TO THE EAST OF THAT. THE OFFSITE PART ON OFF STREET PARKING SCHEDULE AGAIN IS CALCULATED BASED ON ESSENTIALLY USERS OF THE BUILDING. USING BEING ABLE TO PARK IN FRONT OF THEIR STORAGE UNITS AS THEY USE THEM BEHIND AND WITHIN THE SITE. UM AND THERE'S A. A REDUCTION OF TWO PARKING SPACES IN RELATION TO THE EXCITED. FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING. UM, RECENT CITY.
INITIATIVES REALLY ARE IN. WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY CITY COMMISSION IN LOOKING FOR SIDEWALKS WITHIN AN X SIDE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO AT LEAST BE EIGHT. FT. UM THAT. WE THINK THAT IS FEASIBLE IN HERE. BUT THEN THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN WHETHER OR NOT WE ASK THAT EIGHT FT WITH REDUCED REDUCTION OF THE 15 FT PLANTING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY AND INCREASING THE SIDEWALK WITH REDUCES THE PLANTING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S THE BALANCE, DO WE? WE DO WE WANT MORE HARD SURFACE OR DO WE WANT MORE PLANTING IN THE SITE? SO THAT IS A ONE ISSUE THAT WE LIKE. THE L P A TO CHIME IN ON SO. OVERALL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE. SPECIFICALLY CONDITIONED TO THE USE AS A SELF STORAGE. AS PROVIDED IN THE ATTACHED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SET FORTH WITHIN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM NOW OR WE CAN RECEIVE THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION. BODY. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? BEFORE WE RECEIVED THE APPLICANTS PRESENTATION OKAY. PLEASE GO FORWARD. FIRST GRADE.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT COMPLETE? HAS ANYBODY FROM THE STORE JUNIOR? ANYBODY THAT WAS THE ONLY PRESENTATION DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE. OKAY.THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HAVE ANY BOARD QUESTIONS. THOMAS. I HAD ONE DOES THE CPU D. WHAT ABOUT THE SIGNAGE ON THAT BUILDING? AH! WE WOULD. NORMALLY I'LL HAVE TO CHECK THE CPU THE REGULATIONS HERE, BUT WE WOULD NORMALLY ASK FOR A UNIFIED SIGNAGE PLAN AND THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED LATER FOR APPROVAL. I DON'T THINK WE'VE RECEIVED ANY SIGN. AT THE MOMENT, BUT YES, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN WE WOULD RELY ON STANDARD CODE FOR THE SIGNAGE SIZES. OKAY. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL AID MY FEARS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE WORD INDUSTRIAL AND THE STAFF REPORT KIND OF PUT ME OFF BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THESE THINGS EVOLVED INTO EVERYTHING BUT STORAGE. THAT CONCERNED ME, SO THE FACT THAT IT IS EXCLUSIVELY HOUSEHOLD STORAGE. AND YOU HAVE AND IN THE EU DE DOCUMENTS. THAT THE CHRISTIAN SPELLED OUT CORRECT. THERE IS A SPECIFIC RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE ADOPTED INTO THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS IF THAT, IF ANYTHING, CHANGES ON SITE IT WOULD BE IN DEFAULT OF THE APPROVAL AND ANY CHANGE WILL NEED TO COME FORWARD. AS A MAJOR AMENDMENT. I'D LIKE TO ECHO THAT POINT YOU MAKE. I JUST HAPPENED TO BE AND FRIENDS STORAGE, THE ONE OFF BAKER STREET. AND THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. SHE WAS CLEANING OUT AND CLEARLY QUITE A FEW BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN SORRY. COULD THE OWNER COULD THE OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY? GET UP? TO ADDRESS THIS. SO HOW MANY OTHER FACILITIES. 25 PLUS 10 MORE.
SO YOU MUST HAVE RUN INTO THIS ISSUE WITH SOME OF YOUR WHO UH HUH. AND GET. OKAY? OKAY. WE
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REALLY ARE. OUR FACILITIES ARE.PEOPLE CAN'T ACCESS THEIR WINE ON THE WEEKEND. LINE IS STORE. AND I ACTUALLY 40.
HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT A MINOR DOESN'T PICK UP THEIR DAD'S WINE. WE'RE NOT. NO, NO, NO BUT STORAGE RIGHT? BUT. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU SOMEBODY YOUNG KID COMES IN AND SAYS I'M GETTING THE WINE FROM LOCKER. HERE'S THE KEY. LET ME YOU KNOW. OKAY? NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND.
REMEMBRANCES. THANK YOU. IN THE CITY.
YES SO I THINK THIS IS A LOVELY PLAN FOR STORAGE FACILITY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THE TREES AND THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE. YOU'RE LIKE A VILLAIN. BUT MY WHY WHY NOT DO THIS SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN BUILD IT BY, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW DEVELOPMENT IS SO RAMPANT IN THE CITY AND FOR ME THE IDEA OF APPROVING AN AMENDMENT UM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER STORAGE FACILITY FEELS LIKE A BIG ASK, AND I'M WONDERING LIKE WHAT ABOUT THE SITE MAKES IT APPROPRIATE NEED? LET ME HELP HELP ME WITH THAT THE ORIGINAL P U D ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF USES ON THERE AND I'LL ONE OF THE USERS IS ACTUALLY MANY WAREHOUSE FACILITIES SO IT WASN'T ANTICIPATED AT SOME POINT. TO HAVE WAREHOUSING ON THE SITE.
THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR RETAIL. BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL. RESTAURANTS THEATERS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, HOTELS, MOTELS, GAS STATION AUTO SALES. BARBARA BEAUTY SHOPS AND RETAIL WAREHOUSE SALES AND SERVICE. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. SO THIS IN ESSENCE IS A COMPRESSION OF SOME OF THOSE ONE OF THOSE USERS. SO IN THE CASE OF THE CITY'S AN UNUSUAL THING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT IS QUITE LIMITED ANY MOST PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY HAVE RECEIVED A P UT OF SOME SORT EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL. AS SOON AS THAT HAPPENS, REALLY? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BY RIGHT, SO EVERYTHING IS ASSESSED AS A MAJOR AMENDMENT.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CITY. MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LEFT FOR DEVELOPMENT NOW. WILL BE A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO SOME FORM OF P U D THAT WAS ESTABLISHED. MAYBE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 10 20 YEARS AGO AS THIS ONE, YOU KNOW WAS THIS NEVER HAD PREVIOUS. DIDN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN. IT WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE ALMOST LIKE A BOILERPLATE. AH! CPD THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE IS THAT WE'RE IN ENVISIONS THAT TIME. UM SO THERE'S. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF MAJOR AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THE SITUATION THAT CITY YOU'RE IN IT'S JUST. TRICKY THING FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE A STORAGE FACILITY WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME KIND OF BENEFIT AS OTHER OF COURSE. YEAH, YES. IT'S NOT A BIG EMPLOYMENT GENERATOR.
UM OKAY? LOOKING AT THE THREE WAIVERS. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH LANDSCAPER SIDEWALK. I'M
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OKAY WITH A SMALLER SIX FT SIDEWALK AND MORE LANDSCAPING. MY QUESTION IS THE WHAT WAS STAFF STOP PROCESS ON THE REDUCTION OF THIS SETBACK ON THE EAST FROM 30 FT. 20 FT. IT WAS A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT WHEN WE DID INITIALLY PUSHED BACK ON THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE NEGOTIATION WAS WELL, IF WE ALL GOING TO SUPPORT ANY REDUCTION IN THAT WE WANT TO SEE SOME SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING ON THERE ON THAT BUFFER. IN ADDITION, WE YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL SEE, IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE ADJACENT TO THAT. I THINK THAT IT BECOMES LESS CONTENTIOUS IN REDUCTION OF THAT BUFFER. UM IF IT'S DONE CORRECTLY, IF IT IS AGAINST COMMERCIAL RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, SO THE NEGOTIATION , IF YOU LIKE WAS STUFF. REALLY PUSHING FOR MORE LANDSCAPING AND MORE DENSITY IN THAT LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT BUFFER. AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GRANT THAT WE WANT 30 FT. WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE SIZE OF THAT FRONT BUILDING? OBVIOUSLY HE WOULD IT REDUCED THAT BY 10 BY SO THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING THE SAME? YEAH. IT JUST PUSHED THE BUILDING A WHITE MAN. AND IN DOING THAT, I MEAN, YOU COULD WE COULD STILL ASK FOR MORE LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THE P U D AGREEMENT. BUT WE YOU KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT COULD QUITE EASILY SAY WELL, WELL NOW MEETING CODE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AS MUCH AS YOU ASK FOR IN DIVERSE PLACES. IT'S A BALANCE. SO I'M KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE AS JACKIE IN THAT YOU KNOW WHAT? I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A BUSINESS COMING INTO THE CITY UM, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY MAXED OUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, THERE'S 15 SQUARE FEET. UNDER THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, SO YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE. ALL RIGHT. WE GET A COUPLE BENCHES IN A LITTLE PAVER WALK ON INDIAN STREET. YET WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS 10. FT. SETBACK. WE'RE GIVING YOU I DON'T KNOW 1000 UNITS OR OR WHATEVER IT IS. I FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS BEING EXTREMELY GENEROUS IN IN WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING ON THIS SITE AND I AGREE. YEAH COMMERCIAL ON EITHER SIDE. YOU HAVE A THREE STORY BUILDING RIGHT ON INDIAN STREET RIGHT ON THE FRONT EDGE.OVERLOOKING ON THAT THIRD FLOOR YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE WILLOUGHBY I JUST IT'S TO ME.
IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF PLACE THAT THAT BIG IN THAT AREA ON THE SITE. I WOULD TEND TO CONCUR WITH THAT. I ALSO I'M CURIOUS YOU SAY WITH THE LANDSCAPING, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSPLANT SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE THERE. IS THAT, LIKE, HAVE A TYPICAL SUCCESS RATE. AND WHAT IF THAT ISN'T SUCCESSFUL, THEN ARE YOU GOING TO BRING NEW TREES IN I MEAN, RIGHT? OKAY? CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? WITH THE SAME TYPE. AND I CONCUR WITH RYAN. I'M A LITTLE TROUBLED WITH THIS. SIZE AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S YOU KNOW. I THINK THAT A UNIT OF THAT SIZE AND THAT STORY IS A LITTLE CAN WE? MAYBE? CAN WE ASK YOU APPLICANT? IF YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THAT PROCESS, LIKE THE LOCATION OF THAT THREE STORY BUILDING, DID IT MAKE MORE SENSE OF WELL.
NO WILLIAMS. CONCERN IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. LIKE WHAT? THE STORAGE FACILITY ON US ONE. COME A NICE OR FOR THAT. YES.
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OTHER QUESTIONS. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR JET CONCERNS. SO YOU JUST YOU THINK IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER? YES. YEAH BOTH YOU AND JACKIE. I THINK KIND OF THE MASSING AGAIN RIGHT NEXT TO THE PALM VASCULAR TO THE EAST. AND THEN THE, UM THAT AT THE V, A IN THE DENTIST'S OFFICE TO THE WEST. AND THEN JUST THE CONCENTRATION OF IMPERVIOUS ON THE SITE AGAIN. IT'S WHAT 65% IS ALLOWED, AND IT'S RIGHT AT 65. BUT TYPICALLY IN A BEAUTY. IF YOU'RE GONNA JUST MAX EVERYTHING OUT THEN THEN OTHER THAN THE TAX REVENUE THAT THE CITY GETS FROM A STORAGE UNIT. IS THERE MORE NEGOTIATION OF THE CITY CAN HAVE WITH THE APPLICANT.FROM STAFF JUST AS A INFORMATION OR FROM STAFFS. COMMUNICATION WITH MARTIN COUNTY. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EXISTING DRAINAGE ISSUE IN THAT LOCATION, WHICH, UM THE COUNTY ARE MORE SATISFIED WITH WHAT WHAT THIS OFFERS NOW. KEVIN IS THAT FAIRLY UNUSUAL? THEY'RE STORMWATER TREATMENT. YES. YEAH. FOR THE WE KNOW. I THINK WE'RE WE'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED BY THE COMMISSION TO MOVE TOWARDS MORE OF THIS TYPE OF STANDARD. WE DON'T NORMALLY GET TO SEE THIS.
UM, SUPPLIED BY THE APPLICANT. UM. YOU WILL SEE AS AN L P TO ONE OF MY UPDATES TO THE L P A IS, YOU KNOW TO MAKE USE A BORDER WHERE THAT THE STAFF ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH LATER ON THIS YEAR, SOME SERIOUS AMENDMENTS TO THE STORMWATER CODE. AND I THINK. BEARING THAT IN MIND THAT I THINK THIS WOULD MEET THOSE NEW STANDARDS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO THE CODE IS STANDARD. DID THE APPLICANT MAKE THAT SUGGESTION OR AS PART OF THIS STEP, IT'S ALWAYS A LOT OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MOSTLY COME FROM STAFF IN EXCHANGE FOR YOU KNOW THE REDUCTION IN THE BUFFER, SO WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ON SITE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO AND REMOVE ALL THE EXISTING NATIVE TREES AND EXPECT PAINTED THE TREE FUND. LET CAN WE RE REPLACE THOSE ON SITE OR REPOSITION THOSE ON SITE AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN EXPENSE. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT STUFF WANTED TO SEE. THE IMPROVEMENT IN STORMWATER IS ANOTHER THING THAT THE STAFF WANTED TO SEE. THE. THE GREATER PROVISION OF LANDSCAPING, KNOWING THAT BUFFER WAS GOING TO BE REDUCED DOWN THE SIDE. WAS SOMETHING THAT STUFF AGAIN WANTED TO SEE THERE. UM I THINK OVERALL NEGOTIATIONS THIS HAS BEEN IN FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS. MORE AND MORE. YEAH YEAH . UM AND SO DURING THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND STAFF TO GET WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU UM. SO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU KNOW, OPEN TO DIRECTION FROM THE FROM THE BOARD AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
ANY OTHER. BUT I MEAN. I TOTALLY CHEER YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THIS MONSTROUS THREE STORY. UM. YOU KNOW? AND I THOUGHT STAFF DID A GOOD JOB TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT. KEVIN UM YOU KNOW THIS POLICY ONE B 3 10. THIS IS SUCH A VAGUE SUBJECTIVE. YEAH, ELEMENTS. ALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SHALL BE DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE STREETSCAPE AND PROMOTE THE ARCHITECT ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE OF THE CITY. THAT'S JUST THE FIRST SENTENCE AND BECOMES MORE VAGUE FROM THERE. JESUS. BUT I MEAN, I THIS IS WHAT WE'LL SEE ON INDIAN STREET. WITH THE ONE WHICH 11 ON THE BOTTOM. SAY. ONE ON THE TOP. YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE FOR
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STAFF AND SO THIS WAS NOT THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN. KEVIN WHEN THEY CAME IN, YOU ACTUALLY SAID NO. I THINK THERE WAS A NUMBER OF NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE ARTICULATION, BOTH OF THE ROOF LINE AND THE PLANE OF THE WALLS. THE ADDITION OF ELEMENTS TO HELP BREAK UP THE MESSING OF THIS.GETTING THE ARCHITECTURE TO ACTUALLY WRAP AROUND THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. WE THOUGHT WAS QUITE IMPORTANT. UM JUST HELP BREAK THAT THING UP, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, JACKIE'S REMEMBER, VITALITY? ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE ON U. S. ONE IS JUST INFAMOUS ICE OR IN THE CITY. NOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THAT. I WILL SAY CAMPBELL ON THAT ONE. I'M US ONE THE RESIDENTS BEHIND THAT SUPPORTED THAT PROJECT RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A BUFFER FOR THEM, RIGHT? THAT MAKES SENSE. AND WE DO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND WHEN THEY FIRST OBJECTED TO IT. UM AND COMPLEMENT THE CITY FOR WHAT THEY DID THERE. IT ALSO ACTS AS A BARRIER NOISE BARRIER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THEM. THAT IS TRUE. SO FOR NOTIFICATION OF THIS, SO I GUESS YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP. BUT THEN THIS DIDN'T REQUIRE ANY NOTIFICATION THAN THE RESIDENTS OR ANYTHING IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT WASN'T I THINK I SCARED 3 70. OOPS.
ACCORDING THIS SIDEWALK ISSUE. UM DOES THAT SIX FT DOES THAT MARRY? WOULDN'T MARRY UP WITH AN EXISTING EIGHT FT. OR LIKE WE'RE THIS TELL ME A LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT JOINS. I THINK THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ON INDIAN STREET IS SIX. UM EXISTING ONE? YES, EXISTING WHEN HE'S SIX, AND THAT'S A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADWAY I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW. OKAY? IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE. THE SITUATION IN THE COUNTY ROADWAY. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE NOT DOING IT. BUT HOW DO YOU DO THIS? THIS HAS AN UNDERLYING LAND USE OF PUBLIC. AND TOMORROW. YES, YES. HOW DOES HOW DOES. COULDN'T THAT BE CHALLENGED? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT I THINK THAT YOU WILL. THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY BROUGHT INTO THE CITY AS THAT IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND THEN THOSE WITH WELL, I THINK THOSE LAND USES WITHIN APPLIED SOMEHOW TO THAT. WHEN THAT WAS AT 1998 OR SOMETHING. SO WE'RE LEFT WITH THAT, UM THE SITE PLAN ADDRESSES THAT IN IN THE USE OF THOSE AREAS THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T HAVE A BUILDING IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE SOME ELEMENTS THAT DEAL WITH STORMWATER TREATMENT AND STORMWATER RETENTION ON SITE.
AND THAT'S THE AD THAT'S EASY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIMILAR. I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING. LARRY OFF TOP OF MY HEAD IS WITH THE PUBLIC OR INTERVIEWS. AH THEY MAYBE THEY MAYBE DEALT WITH. I'M JUST CURIOUS. RIGHT? MHM. SEEMS LIKE A VULNERABILITY. REALLY? PRIVATE PIECE STICK. IT RESTRICTS THE USE OF THAT. PART OF THE SITE. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING. IT'S A THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE RESTRICTS WHAT CAN BE DONE ON TOP OF THAT. NOTWITHSTANDING THE ZONING ON TOP OF THAT, SO IT DOES RESTRICT THAT TO THE USE THAT THEY HAVE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. JUST DOWN THE SIDEWALK, KEV AGAIN. STAFF DOES NOT WANT TO NARROW IT. JUST SIX. CORRECT WELL, I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO EITHER THERE'S A BALANCE ISN'T THERE? YOU KNOW IF WE'RE
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WANTING TO SEE MORE LANDSCAPING AND MARK MORE GREEN SPACE ON PROPERTIES, THEN WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE VARYING THAT. WHEN IT'S NOT REALLY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED SIDEWALK. I MEAN, IT LEADS TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OR SIDE ENTRANCE TO A STORAGE FACILITY. IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MULTI MODAL PATH. THERE IS. PERHAPS ANOTHER OPTION, THOUGH WE'RE LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO RIGHT WHERE WE COULD HAVE LANDSCAPING AND EIGHT MULTIMODAL PATH AND PERHAPS A SLIGHTLY, YOU KNOW? 999 STORAGE SPACES INSTEAD OF 1000. OR YOU COULD YOU COULD HAVE A BOTH NO, I JUST THINK I THINK WE'RE SEEING MORE PEOPLE AS A SIDEWALK, SAYS. THE FATHER OF ADULT CHILD. WHO ONLY RIDES A BIKE AND ALWAYS RIDES ON THE SIDEWALK. I JUST I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE THIS IS A YEAH, YEAH, THIS IS AN INTERIOR, SIDEWALK INTERIORS INTERIOR. IT LEADS TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE. I THINK IT'S E. IT RUNS ACROSS THE THAT THAT'S THE SIDEWALK THERE. OKAY? SO IT'S NOT REALLY CONNECTING WITH AND THEN TO THE BUILDING. MY OPINION IS THAT I WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE LANDSCAPING THAN MORE INTERIOR SIDEWALKS. ALSO RATHER NOT HOUSE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. REFERENCE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? HEY, JORDAN. WHAT DO WE DO, AND NO ONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. HE JUST DIES, YOU KNOW? CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD TO COMMISSION. CORRECT CAP. UM NOT SURE. YEAH WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION JUST BECAUSE I THINK THE OPINION OF THE OPIO SHOULD BE EXPRESSED ONE WHERE THE OTHER SO KIM CAMPBELL MAKE MOST. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. EXCEPT FOR WAIVER THREE. AND IN LIGHT OF REJECTING WHATEVER THREE THAT STAFF SEEK TO PROVIDE REQUIRE MORE LANDSCAPING. ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND. WOULD YOU? VICE CHAIR, BROWNFIELD. ARE YOU TAKING THE VOTES? YEAH. NO. I'M SORRY. I SAID NO. BOARD MEMBER RICH. YES BOARD MEMBER STRONG NO. BOARD MEMBER MASSING. NO. BOARD MEMBER OF ITALY. CHARLIE GREEN. NO.
SO THAT WAS A DENIAL. IT WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. RACE. WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN REASONS. I SECOND THE MOTION BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO GO ON THE RECORD AND HAVE A VOTE. I THINK MY CONCERN WAS THE SETBACK AND SIZE OF THAT BUILDING ON THE FRONT. THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT JUST MINE I WOULD CONCUR WITH WHAT RYAN SAID. I DO, TOO. I JUST THINK THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS IT'S NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE. OF A DIFFERENT CONCERN. DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MATTER. THANK YOU MUCH DO WE HAVE A STAFF UPDATE. YES I DO
[STAFF UPDATE]
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HAVE SOME THINGS JUST TO KEEP YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT. SO THE ON THE SUBJECT OF ANNEXING PROPERTIES INTO THE CITY. SOME TIME AGO, THE CITY DID ACTUALLY ANNEX IN THREE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTIES INTO THE CITY. THEY WERE LEFT WITH A COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING, SO THE CITY ARE INITIATING THEIR OWN. PROCESS TO REDEFINE THOSE AS PUBLIC OR INSTITUTIONAL, PROBABLY PUBLIC FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING. WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE DISTRICT AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT. THERE IS ADDITIONAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALL FOOD. WILLOUGHBY. UM ACTUALLY ACROSS FROM SELFISH SPLASH, WHICH IS THE REAR OF THE CANOPY. YOU D PART OF THE WASN'T NAME ME NIEMI RICE ANNEXATION THAT CAME IN DID NOT HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE OR ZONING ATTACHED TO THAT. WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE OWNER OF THAT AND THAT WILL BE WRAPPED UP IN THE SAME MOVEMENT FORWARD. SO THE LPGA WILL BE GETTING THOSE THINGS COMING FORWARD TO THAT. TO DO THE OPA. I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER THAT STAFF ARE WORKING ON THE STORM, WATER AND OTHER LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.INITIATIVES TO PUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO YOU WILL HOPEFULLY BE SEEING SOME OF THAT LATER IN THE YEAR. UM JUST FOR INFORMATION THE IF YOU RECALL THE SILVERTHORNE P U D THAT THE L P A DENIED AND DID. ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE CITY COMMISSION, THE LAST MEETING WHETHER HE GREEK RECOMMENDATION. FOR DENIAL BY STAFF. THE APPLICANT DID ASK TO DEFER THAT TO MARCH 28TH. THEY'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS. SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE EPA RAISED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE WAITING TO SEE HOW THAT FORMS OUT. AND THEN THAT WILL HOPEFULLY OR WHATEVER BE BROUGHT TO THE AH CITY COMMISSION. THE LP RECOMMENDATION STILL STANDS ON THAT AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A LOOK AT THAT WHEN IT COMES IN. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YES SIR. KEVIN, IS THERE ANY MORE UPDATE ON THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT A RESIDENTIAL MORATORIUM RPG. OH YES, YES, YES. YES THERE WAS NO MOVEMENT TAKEN ON A MORATORIUM. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS RAISED ABOUT THE CONCERN OF THE LOSS OF COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USED TO RESIDENTIAL UM, AT THE SAME TIME BEHIND THE SCENES ON THIS THE WELL IN PUBLIC, THE COUNTY INITIATED A INNOVATION DISTRICTS IDEA FOR THE COMMERCE AVENUE. FREE MARKET AIRPORT AREA. AND THERE'S A WHOLE THAT IS. AND MOVEMENT TOWARDS MORE OF A HORIZONTALLY MIXED USE AREA, WHICH WOULD INCORPORATE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL RETAIL. IN THAT SORT OF PATTERN. SO THE CITY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT TOGETHER SOME MEETINGS LATER THIS MONTH, ACTUALLY. UM TO TALK ABOUT THAT CONCEPT, AND HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THAT? WE'VE HEARD ANECDOTALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING INTO THAT AREA ACTUALLY LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY. THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONTINGENT IN THAT AREA THAT ACTUALLY WORK AT INDIAN RIVER COLLEGE. UM SO THERE'S SOME SYNERGY GOING ON THERE THAT WE NEED TO GET A BETTER GRIP OF, UM AND SO YEAH, WELL, I WILL UPDATE YOU ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I THINK IT'S THE START TO SEE. UM MUCH MORE ON THAT. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THE CITY CAN BE A LEADER IN HELPING THE COUNTY INITIALIZE THAT THAT CONCEPT AND QUITE EXCITING. FANTASTIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STUFF? RIGHT, BUT ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SUMMER. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR HIGH. YOUR ADDRESS.
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