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          WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. DO THE ROLL CALL. CHAIR LAUREN HERE, VICE CHAIR. BROWNFIELDS REMEMBER RICH? HERE REMEMBER, STROM? REMEMBER MASSING? REMEMBER MATHERS. BOARD MEMBER OF ITALY. IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS . ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. RIGHT EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF OUR LAST MINUTES. WOULD 
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ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. ALRIGHT, ANY OPPOSED? FANTASTIC. DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC CHAIR? I'M SORRY. DO YOU MIND 
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DOING APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS WELL? A MOTION TO PRODIGIOUS OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA? ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. COMING. NONE. OKAY GREAT COMMENTS BY THE BOARD MEMBERS ON 
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NON AGENDA ITEMS ANYONE? CAMPBELL. UM. I'D LIKE TO ASK MR MARTEL. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE COSTCO RULING. AND IF WE LOOK SIMPLY AT THE MOST RECENT AGENDA WE RECEIVED, OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY HAS REACTED. IN A FAIRLY DRAMATIC FASHION IN TERMS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE IN THIS LATEST PACKAGE. BUT BEFORE I ASK YOU TO COMMENT BRIEFLY ON YOUR OPINION, WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT'S WHAT STEPS WE'RE GONNA TAKE GOING FORWARD AND KEVIN FEEL FREE TO ADD ANYTHING IF YOU LIKE. UH, HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN WITH ANY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT YOU HAD REVERSAL HAS BEEN DENIED. THOUSANDS THOUSANDS. I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY I DON'T VERY PROBABLY KNOW AS MUCH AS I DO LIKE IN THE HISTORY SINCE 1985. THERE'S 465 YEARS, POLITIES AND 67 COUNTIES AND MULTIPLE LAND USES PER YEAR. IT'S SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. HAS IT EVER HAPPENED TO THE CITY BEFORE? UM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY LITIGATED OVER LAND USES IN 1998. I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WAS GRANTED OR DENIED AND WITH THE CEO DID OR DIDN'T DO I KNOW THAT. THREE OF THE CASES THAT I'M CITING RIGHT NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT OUR MARTIN COUNTY CASES. I'M LOOKING AT A CASE WHERE IN MIAMI IN 2019. THEY BOUGHT ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY NECESSARY TO BUILD A ROAD. AND THEY CHANGED THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO ROAD, AND SOME OF IT WAS IN A CONSERVATION AREA. WE'RE NOT CONSERVATION PRESERVATION AREA AND IT'S. THE SAME. IT'S STILL PENDING BECAUSE OF EXCEPTIONS AND DISPUTES BACK AND FORTH. AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THERE WAS A FINDING AS TO THE NATURE OF THE LAND BASED UPON RULINGS AND THINGS THAT AGAIN I WAS INVOLVED IN THE CASE, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THE GREAT DETAILS, BUT AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, WHENEVER THERE'S LAND USE ISSUES ADDRESSED. THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONAL AND REAL ISSUES THAT COME UP. IN THE INSTANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE. HEARD A LOT OF STUFF. AMOUNT OF ADVICE I'VE GOTTEN SINCE WE GOT THE RULING BACK IF I COULD HAVE JUST HEARD IT ALL BEFORE. BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. LAND USE AND ZONING ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THE RULING. BY THE COURT DURING THE TRIAL. WAS THAT WE WERE LIMITED TO THE ISSUE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT AND NOT THE ISSUE. OF ZONING OR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ZONING AND TYPE APPROVAL FOR THOSE OF YOU WANT TO HEAR. THE DISTINCTION IS IN THAT MATTER, THE COSTCO MATTER LIKE THE ROAD , THE APARTMENTS, FOUR STORIES, SETBACKS, STORMWATER. MITIGATION OF WETLANDS. COSTCOS GAS STATIONS. RESTAURANTS CURB CUTS STREETS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, TRAFFIC COUNTS. THOSE ARE THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT THAT TOOK PLACE. AND THE JUDGE RULED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL STUFF WAS NOT ADMISSIBLE. AND AGAIN. IT 
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DOESN'T MATTER WHAT GOING THROUGH EXCEPTIONS AND TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM IT UNTIL IT'S OVER WITH, BUT IF YOU READ THE JUDGE'S RULING. AND THE TRANSCRIPTS AND THE PROPOSED ORDERS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RULING IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR PETITIONS. PROPOSED ORDER WAS RELATED TO TESTIMONY THAT WAS ELICITED DURING WHAT'S CALLED A PROFFER. IF I SAID TO THE ECOLOGIST, WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? AND THE ECOLOGIST AND WELFARE ADJUSTED THE SITE PLAN AND GOT AWAY FROM THE WETLAND. AND THEN MIKE MORTELL OBJECTIONS SAYS THAT'S A SITE PLAN ISSUE. YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT. JUDGE RULES. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SITE PLAN. AND THE ROYAL LAWYER SAYS OKAY, BUT I WANT TO PROFFER IT. AND THEN THE ECOLOGIST HAS THE SITE PLAN HAS THE ROAD DOING BAD STORM WATER GOING INTO WETLAND WHERE IT SHOULDN'T GO AND DATA THAT GOES ON. FOR THE PROPER IS FOR AN APPELLATE REVIEW FOR SOME LATER TIME. IT'S NOT FOR THE TRIAL OR THE TRIAL ORDER. WHEN THE PROPOSED ORDERS GOT SUBMITTED. IT GOT SUBMITTED, AS IF THAT WAS TESTIMONY LISTED DURING THE TRIAL AND THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. STARTING FROM PARAGRAPH NINE THROUGH PARAGRAPH 95. ALL HAS SITE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT FINDINGS IN IT. 
          PARAGRAPH, 64 SAYS. IF THE CITY HAD DONE THE SITE PLAN AND REVIEW THE SAME AS THE BRIDGEVIEW PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE. NO. YOU CAN'T. DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SITE AND IRONICALLY BECAUSE THE JUDGE RULED THAT THE SITE PLAN STUFF WASN'T ADMISSIBLE WEEK, THE CITY DIDN'T PUT ANY OF IT ON. WE DIDN'T HAVE KIND OF A TESTIFIED ANY OF THE FACT THAT WE DID THE 25% OF ADMITTED PRESERVATION, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THE JUDGE HAD WAS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY UPLOAD PRESERVATION ON THE SITE, BUT OF COURSE IT WAS ON THE SITE PLAN. 
          AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT JUDGE HAD IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WETLAND MITIGATION. BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S 12 ACRES OF WETLAND MITIGATION, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE SITE PLAN, SO NONE OF THAT EVIDENCE HAPPENED. AND THE JUDGE'S RULING SAID. WE NEED TO DO ALL THAT FIRST. BUT IF YOU READ THE CITY'S COM PLAN, ELEMENT FIVE IN PARTICULAR ELEMENT FIVE, SECTION FIVE A 3585 AND FIVE A SEVEN ALL HAVE RESERVATIONS IN THEM, THAT SAID. FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE ISSUE RELATED TO THE MITIGATION , PRESERVATION AND DEALING WITH NATURAL HABITAT SHALL BE PRESERVED UNTIL DEVELOPMENT AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THE JUDGE'S ORDER SAYS IT HAD TO BE DONE IN ADVANCE AND PART OF THE FUTURE LAND USE. COM PLAN ELEMENT. A 8.1 SAYS THAT WHEN DEALING WITH THE CAR PLAN THE CITY WILL RESERVE. THE MITIGATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE. EXCEPT FOR THE RECOMMENDED ORDER SAYS THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT. NOW. THE IRONY OF ALL THAT IS THAT IF WE WERE TO FILE THIS AND FOLLOW THIS RECOMMENDED ORDER YOU COULDN'T PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS SITE. BECAUSE WE IN OUR COME PLAN. ALL FUTURE LAND USES ARE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT RELATES TO MITIGATION OF WETLANDS MITIGATION OF NATURAL, CERTAIN NATURAL RESOURCES, UPLANDS, TREES, PLANTS, ANIMALS , WHATEVER IT IS, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. IT HAS THE EQUAL PROTECTIONS. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT COMMERCIAL MIXED USE MULTI FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S ALL THE SAME AS IT RELATES TO HOW YOU ADDRESS THE NATURAL RESOURCES. IN THE CURRENT RULING . THE ORDER SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM FIRST. BUT IF BY CHANCE YOU WERE A LANDOWNER AND WE SAID TO YOU WE ARE GOING TO DEDICATE 25% OF YOUR LAND AND WE'RE GOING TO PICK THE 25% IS UPLAND PRESERVATION AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL OF YOUR WETLANDS INTO CONSERVATION BEFORE WE GIVE YOU A FUTURE LAND USE. THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD SAY TO US IS YOUR COM PLAN SAYS THAT I HAVE DO PROCESS RIGHTS AND THEN I HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRESENT THE EVIDENCE AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE AND WHAT SHOULDN'T BE PUT INTO PRESERVATION AND WHAT SHOULD BE AND SHOULDN'T BE MITIGATED AND WHAT SHOULD BE. AND SHOULDN'T BE DEDICATED AS THOSE AREAS AND IF YOU DO IT WITHOUT ME GETTING A CHANCE TO COME PRESENTED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE. YOU'RE VIOLATING YOUR COM PLAN. SO WERE FORCED TO FILE THESE EXCEPTIONS, NOT SO MUCH AS WE GET MATTERS TO ME PERSONALLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT COSTCO BECAUSE I MEAN THE COSTCO SITE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PERSONAL INTEREST IN IT AT ALL. IT'S MORE OF A PROTECTION OF THE CAR PLANT. BECAUSE AGAIN IF YOU TOOK THAT RECOMMENDED ORDER AND YOU JUST WHERE IT'S HIS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT. JUST TAKE. SECTION ONE OF OUR COMPLAINT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND 
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USES. AND PICK WHATEVER FUTURE LAND USE YOU WANT. AND CHANGE IT TO WHERE THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT IS, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE CITY CAN'T ASSIGN. ANY LAND USED TO IT AS THE IRONY BEING THAT WE HAVE A LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE SOMEONE LAND USED TO THE LAND ONCE IT'S ANNEX, SO WE HAVE TO GIVE IT A LAND USE. BUT UNDER THE CURRENT ORDER, WE CAN'T GIVE IT A LAND USE BECAUSE WE CAN'T FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GIVE IT THE UPLAND AND WETLAND PRESERVATION STUFF FIRST , BUT UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. SO WHAT IS THE RESOLUTION AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEPS? IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I'D SAY LET'S WASH YOUR HANDS OF IT AND WALKING. I'M JUST KIDDING. IT WOULD BE. THERE'S A COUPLE OPTIONS NUMBER ONE. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, THE DEVELOPER COULD SAY. OKAY. I WANT YOU GUYS TO GIVE ME A THE LAND USE AND JUST COMING BACK IN AND WANT LAND. JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE A HEARING NEXT MONDAY NIGHT MODEL CARE PICK ONE. AND MAKE THE CITY PICK A LAND USE RIGHT AND DO THAT AND START OVER AGAIN IF THEY WANTED THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. OR AND THIS IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. THERE'S A METHOD TO FILE EXCEPTIONS AND I WAS WORKING ON IT BEFORE I CAME IN HERE IN THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU REMOVE THE ISSUE OF DEVELOPMENT AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. YOU CAN NARROW IT BACK DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TWO EXPERTS TESTIFY. GREG BRIAN AS A LOCAL ECOLOGIST, AND I WAS JUST READING FROM HIS TRANSCRIPT. AND HIS TRANSCRIPTS SPECIFICALLY SAID, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT AS LONG AS WHEN THEY DID THE SITE PLAN. THEY ORIENTED IT DIFFERENTLY. SO AGAIN GOING TO SITE PLAN AND THEY COULD CHALLENGE AND SAVE PLANET THAT MR CARTIER ER, WHO WAS THEIR PERSONAL TALLAHASSEE WAS THERE. OTHER EXPERT IRONICALLY, JUST READING HIS AS WELL. AND IN HIS TESTIMONY SAID I DIDN'T TESTIFY AS TO COMPATIBILITY OF SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT. SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILIES . SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT TO MARTIN COUNTY ESPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE. NEXT TO A PARK SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE NEXT TO MARTIN COUNTY UTILITIES. AND THE REASON MR CARTY ERIC TESTIFIED TO THAT IS BECAUSE IN 1998 MR CHARTIER WORKED FOR WHAT'S NOW THE D E O. AND HE APPROVED PROJECT NORTH OF THE BRIDGE THAT HAD BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF STEWART THAT GOT SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT THAT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO PINEAPPLE PARK UP IN MARTIN COUNTY. AS WELL AS THE MARTIN COUNTY UTILITIES, AS WELL AS THE WINDERMERE AND PINE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND SO HE SAID THAT THE ISSUE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL DISTRICT REALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, AND THAT THE REASON HE WAS TESTIFYING WAS AS IT PERTAINED TO THE WAY THAT THEY DID THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL RELATED TO THOSE WETLANDS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ALL FINE AND DANDY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE FORUM FOR IT IF THEY WANTED TO CHALLENGE THAT ISSUE. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CIRCUIT COURT, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BURDEN OF PROOF AND A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT DOES WETLANDS AND EVIDENCE WERE? STAY TUNED. THE. EXCEPTIONS PUBLIC AND WHEN I SAY PUBLIC, THEY'RE NOT SECRET. IT'S JUST THEY'RE NOT FINISHED. ON TUESDAY . THEY'LL BE FILED AND THEY WILL BE MUCH MORE CLEARLY ARTICULATE THIS SUMMARY THAT I'M GIVING AND IT'LL AND IT'S NOT BRAZILIANS AND BRAZILIANS AND BRAZILIANS. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE TWO OR THREE PRIMARY ISSUES THAT JUST NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. BUT LET'S ASSUME NOW AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. FAST FORWARD. THE ADMINISTRATION DENIES THE EXCEPTIONS. IT HAS TOO BAD, SO SAD IT IS WHAT IT IS. OKAY? STILL HAVE TO GIVE IT A LAND USE. SO IN THEORY YOU COULD COME BACK, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS A FAR RATE, A MAXIMUM BUILD OUT ANALYSIS AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SEE THIS IN THE L P A MORE NOW. WE ARE A TENDENCY TO CONSOLIDATE THE TWO TOGETHER AND DO THE MET THESE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THE FUTURE LAND USE TOGETHER BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, THE COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T WANT TO JUST DO THE LAND USE WITHOUT THE, UM FUTURE LAND USE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T OR WITHOUT THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO GO THERE. NOW LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A 10 ACRE COMMERCIAL SITE. WELL THE MAXIMUM BUILD OUT IN A 10 ACRE COMMERCIAL SITE. OF A FAR OF TWO POINT OH 10 ACRES EACH ACRES 43,560 SQUARE FEET. SO 43,560 TIMES, 10. IS 433. 4400 AND 35,000 SQUARE FEET, THEN 45 435,000 SQUARE FEET TIMES TWO. IS 970,000 SQUARE FEET, SO. A 970,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING 
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COULD BE BUILT. AND IF A 970,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS BUILT, CAN WE SUPPORT IT WITH THE WATER AND THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THE STUFF NOW WE CAN'T TAKE ANY CONSIDERATION. WE CAN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IT CAN'T BE BUILT IN 100% OF THE LAND THAT IT CAN'T BE. WE DON'T ALLOW BUILDINGS MORE THAN A CERTAIN WIDTH WE DON'T ALLOW HAVE SETBACKS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ROADS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARKING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF. SO THESE MAXIMUM BUILDUPS COME OUT AS THIS GIGANTIC, OUTRAGEOUS NUMBER AND IT JUST SCARES PEOPLE AND IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THE BOARD MUCH INFORMATION. ON TOP OF THAT THIS SECONDARY PHASES. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST QUESTION ON YOUR MOUTH IS GOING TO BE WELL. WHAT ARE THEY BUILDING? WE'RE GONNA SAY. I'M SORRY THAT'S NOT RELEVANT FOR TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT. 
          AND SO THEN THE BOARD IS GOING TO DELIBERATE INTO THIS FANTASY . AND SO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE GOING TO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S BEING BUILT. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, THE BOARD WILL KNOW BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS WILL HAVE ALL MET WITH YOU THE WEEK BEFORE. SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WON'T KNOW WHERE THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO THEN ACCUSED THE BOARD MEMBERS OF HAVING A BACKROOM DEAL AND THE HIDING THE BALL AND IF NOT DISCLOSING WHAT'S BEING BUILT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS BIG PUSH AND TAKE AND HONESTLY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. BUT SOMETIMES THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TAKES PLACE. AND HERE WE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WELL, MIKE. THANK YOU WHEN YOU'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS YOU QUOTING ALL THOSE ORDINANCES. ANY ORIENTED BY HEART. BUT IMMEDIATE FACT IS, IN FACT, THIS EVENING. 
          THE MARINA IS SEPARATED. AND IN FACT, THE ONLY ELEMENT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IS THE FUTURE LAND USE. WELL NOT THE ALTHOUGH IT'S INCLUDED, IRONICALLY, THAT'S NOT EVEN WHY. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE MARINA IS ACTUALLY IN THE C R A AND THE CRB WOULD NORMALLY BE HEARING THE MARINA SITE. EXCEPT FOR OUR CODE SAYS THE HELP. AH HERE IS ALL FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES. SO YOUR JURISDICTION IN THE IS LIMITED. TO THE MARINA ALONE, SO BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THE COMMISSIONERS FOLLOWING THE. LENGTHY UM CANTOR HIGHWAY HEARINGS HAD ASKED THAT THE BOARD START MOVING AWAY FROM AND DOING THIS SEPARATE HEARINGS AND THE COUNTY DOES IT. KIND OF CONCURRENTLY. AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS LIKE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO MIGHT BE THE ZONING SIDE OF IT, WHICH, IRONICALLY, IN AN L P A SITUATION YOU COULD ACTUALLY FIND YOURSELF DENYING THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AND YOU START OUT WITH WILL PRESUME THAT YOU GRANTED THE LAND USE CHANGE AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS NUMBER TWO IS A ZONING ISSUE NOW. AND DO IT ALL AGAIN AND HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND DO AND DO IT. SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE GETTING USED TO, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A BALANCE IN THERE SOMEWHERE. THAT WILL BE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH THAT KEEPS THEM VERY SEPARATE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KIND OF TRANSPARENT AND TELLS EVERYBODY WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON THE PROBLEM WITH CONSOLIDATING HIM AS YOU RUN INTO THIS SITUATION WHERE PETITIONERS FELT THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSOLIDATED THEY WERE ENTITLED TO INCLUDE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND. LANGUAGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND IF YOU JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR ONE SECOND D THE JUDGE HAD ACTUALLY RULED. DURING THE HEARING MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT, UM WHEN THE. WHEN THE JUDGE RULED TO IT TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FIND IT REAL FAST. BUT WHEN THE JUDGE RULED ON IT, THE JUDGE SAID, I CANNOT. MIX. THE TWO ISSUES. I THINK YOU CAN'T FIND IT REAL FAST. I CAN'T MIX THE TWO ISSUES. I DON'T WANT TO COME TO COMBINE THEM IN THE RULING, AND SO THAT WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE? THE CITY BELIEVED THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MIX THE ISSUES AND COMBINE THEM AND AS A RESULT WE DIDN'T AND. THE ORDER THAT CAME OUT ULTIMATELY DID IN FACT, MIX THEM AND FOR SOME REASON, MY PEWTER DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE THE HERE IT IS. SO IN THE JUDGE'S RULING. I'M JUST GOING TO READ VERBATIM. AFTER LOTS OF DISCUSSION, THE JUDGE SAID. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR MARTEL. AND I'VE DONE A FEW OF THESE. NOW WE'RE CHANGING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN OR A MASTER PLAN WAS PART OF THE SAME ORDINANCE AS A 
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FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE. AND I AM NOT AUTHORIZED TO OPINE OR MAKE ANY FINDINGS OF FACT ON WHETHER A CHANGE IN ZONING OR WHETHER THE SITE PLAN MAP THAT WAS APPROVED. IS AUTHORIZED OR APPROVED OR CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCEEDING THAT, AS MR MARTEL POINTED OUT, CAN BE BROUGHT IN CIRCUIT COURT OR IF BROUGHT BEFORE ME. THERE'S A PROCESS IN 1 63, WHICH IS NOT THE PROCEEDING WE'RE IN TODAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT OR AN APPROVED SITE PLAN. AND THAT IS WHAT MIGHT BE EXPECTED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. BUT I HAVE TO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT. OR LOOK AT THAT. AND OF COURSE WE READ THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE GOT INFUSED. HAPPENS. I MEAN, I. CAN'T. IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. THANK YOU, MIKE. 
          [2. Resolution 44-2022: The Oaks Classical Christian Academy requests approval of a
Major Conditional Use Permit to increase the number of students permitted at their
campus located at St. Mary's Episcopal Church. St. Mary's Episcopal Church is located
at 623 SE Ocean Boulevard. (RC)
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THANK YOU, CAMPBELL. ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO THE FIRST ACTION ITEM OF THE OAKS CLASSICAL CHRISTIAN ACADEMY REQUEST. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. ERIN WILLETT, CA FOR THE RECORD SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A REQUEST TO GRANT CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS PERMITTED TO BE ENROLLED AT THE OAKS CLASSICAL CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, WHICH IS A PAROCHIAL SCHOOL IN THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT. THE LOCATION OF THIS SCHOOL IS AT ST MARY'S CHURCH AT 701 SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. THE EXISTING APPROVAL ALLOWS 25 STUDENTS. THEY ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING OUT OF ST MARY'S. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, UM INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS TO 90. HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY . UH THE ST MARY'S CHURCH PROPERTY IS 2.46 ACRES AND CONSISTS OF TWO PARCELS OPPOSITE ONE ANOTHER, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION AT SOUTHEAST OCEAN AND SOUTHEAST AMERICA AVENUE. THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS R THREE. AND THE FUTURE LAND USES OFFICE RESIDENTIAL I'M GOING TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND PRESENT. THEIR PROJECT. YEAH. 
          UM, ICON. GOT IT, OKAY. COMING UP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATE DEWITT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OAKS ACADEMY. AND TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING BASICALLY CHANGED THE EXISTING MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ALLOWED WITHIN THE SCHOOL THAT'S ALREADY IN OPERATION AND ST MARY'S PROPERTY. SO YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED NORTH SIDE OF EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, SOUTH SIDE OF IS IT? NOT ON. MOVE IT MORE, UM, NORTH SIDE OF EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. DEBATE. WE HOPE THE WORK. CAN I GO BACK? ONE MORE? OOPS. OKAY SORRY. I DIDN'T WANT TO SKIP THIS ONE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE TO THE THINGS THAT ARE SET UP HERE. MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYTHING UP. SO I HAVE MISS KATIE CRUZ, WHO'S HEAD OF SCHOOL. MR CORLEY. O MALIA, ALSO VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND THIS SUSAN O'ROURKE, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. SO WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE SURROUNDED ON THE NORTH SIDE BY MARK MEMORIAL HOSPITAL RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH BUT PRIMARILY SURROUNDED BY DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THEN STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE SOUTHWEST. AND THIS IS THE SITE. BISECTED BY AMERIGO AVENUE. IT HAS AN EXISTING ZONING AS AARON HAD MENTIONED IN LAND USE OF OFFICE RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE ZONING OR THE LAND USED TONIGHT. ON THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE THE EXISTING CHURCH SANCTUARY. THESE ARE THE ANCILLARY CHURCH OFFICES. AND LUCY, LUCY EDO AND ASSOCIATES, WHICH CONTINUES TO OPERATE ON SITE. THIS IS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE OAKS ACADEMY, UTILIZING CLASSROOMS IN THIS BUILDING HERE. AND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND FROM WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER FOR ST MARY'S. SOME OF THE RECORDS ARE, UM, TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE TO PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT WAS INITIALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1947 AROUND 1960 FOR A PRESCHOOL IS ESTABLISHED, AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          COMMEMORATING THE 25 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE PRESCHOOL, SO BACKING THAT OUT, GETS US TO 1964. SO IT'S AT LEAST IN OPERATION FOR OVER 25 YEARS OF PRESCHOOL AT THIS LOCATION AND PROBABLY EXTENDED FOR YEARS BEYOND THAT, IN 2000 AND FIVE A PARKING LOT RE STRIPING PERMIT WAS APPROVED. AND THAT IS THE PARKING THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY. WE'RE NOT AGAIN NOT PROPOSING 
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ANY CHANGES TO THOSE EXISTING SPACES OR CONFIGURATION. AND THEN LAST YEAR, THE CITY COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE OAKS ACADEMY TO HAVE 25 STUDENTS FOR THEIR INITIAL OPENING. SO THE OAKS ACADEMY IS A UNIVERSITY MODEL SCHOOL, SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF IN SCHOOL INSTRUCTION WITH A PROFESSIONAL CERTIFIED TEACHER AND THEN A HOME BASED UM, INSTRUCTION AND LEARNING WITH A PARENT. SO IT'S A HYBRID OF TRADITIONAL AND HOME SCHOOLING. 
          THERE'S ACTIVITIES, FIELD TRIPS , ANYTHING THAT WOULD CARRY ON WITH THE TRADITIONAL MODEL SCHOOL IS ALSO CONTINUED WITH THIS ON THE IN SCHOOL DAYS. SO IT'S A GREAT IT'S A GREAT BALANCE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES, WANT TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES OR WANT TO JUST BE MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILD'S EDUCATION? THERE IS K THROUGH EIGHT IN THE GRADES THAT ARE OFFERED RIGHT NOW THE SCHOOL IS GOES UP TO SIXTH GRADE . BUT AS THOSE CHILDREN PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE GRADES, THE MAXIMUM WILL BE THE EIGHTH GRADE BEFORE THEY WOULD GO OFF TO HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S A CLASSICAL STYLE CURRICULUM, AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE UTILIZING THREE CLASSROOMS WITHIN THE CHURCH BUILDINGS, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE IN A MINUTE. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. IT'S FROM MODIFICATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS FROM THE 25 TO THE NINETIES STUDENTS AND THIS WOULD BE ACHIEVED OVER SEVERAL YEARS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU. TO COVER THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD BE IN OPERATION. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. RIGHT NOW, WITH THE 25 STUDENTS THEY'RE APPROVED FOR THE INITIAL ENROLLMENT WAS ABOUT 22 SO THEN INCREASING FOR THIS NEXT YEAR AS YOU HAVE SIBLINGS THAT ARE COMING UP THROUGH THE GRAINS. AND JOINING THEIR OLDER BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE SCHOOL. THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE PHYSICAL BUILDINGS OR PARKING LOT AREAS AND WE'RE WORKING COMPLETELY WITHOUT AN EXISTING SURPLUS OF PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE, AND FOR ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS. THE MAIN SANCTUARY AREA FOR THE CHURCH REQUIRES THE 51 SPACES. THE OFFICE BUILDING. LUCIDO WITH ASSOCIATES IS ALLOCATED THE 22. REMAINING IS 13 SURPLUS SPACES, AND THOSE ARE SOLELY THE SPACES THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE SCHOOL . OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE A CHURCH IN OPERATION THERE. HI UM, PEAK HOURS OF OPERATION ARE GOING TO BE THE SATURDAY SUNDAY THE WEEKEND SO A SCHOOL WITH THE CHURCH, THERE'S SUCH A SUCH A WONDERFUL SHARED. 
          RELATIONSHIP THERE. SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ONLY TAKING THOSE 13 SPACES THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY MORE SPACES ON SITE BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS NOT AN OPERATION DURING THE WEEK. WE DID COMPLETE A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY ANALYZING THE AM AND PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS, AND THAT STUDIES DETERMINED THE IMPACT OF THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF THE STUDENTS AT THE FULL BUILD OUT OF 90. OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS THAT WOULD BE BUILT OUT IS COMPLETELY DIMINISH EMUS, AND SO THERE'S NO EXTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD BE WARRANTED. WHEN WE LOOK AT SCHOOLS, PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING WE WANT TO LOOK AT. BESIDES A VEHICULAR TRAFFIC INPUT IT IMPACT IS THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION SO JUST TO KIND OF BRING YOU THROUGH. WHAT THE PATH IS FOR THIS SO THE BUILDING ON THE BOTTOM IS WHERE THE EXISTING CLASSROOMS ARE THAT THE OAKS UTILIZES TODAY. THIS AREA IS THE FUTURE CLASSROOMS SO AGAIN AS THE SCHOOL CONTINUES TO GROW, THESE WOULD BE THE CLASSROOMS THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED IN THE YEARS TO COME. MORNING DROP OFF GOES FROM 805 TO 8:15 A.M. AND THE PICKUP GOING FROM THREE O'CLOCK TO 3:10 P.M. SO IT GIVES THE PARENTS A WINDOW IN WHICH TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF. WHICH WORKS EFFECTIVELY TODAY. THIS IS THE PATH THAT WILL THE PARENTS WILL TAKE COMING IN OF OSCEOLA DOWN AMERICA CIRCULATING THROUGH THE ST MARY'S PARKING LOT AND THEN DOING A RIGHT TURN OUT ONLY ONTO EAST OCEAN. THERE WILL BE NO LEFT TURN ALLOWED WILL HAVE AN A FRAME SIGN THERE. THAT'S DIRECTING PARENTS SO THAT THEY KNOW IT'S ONLY A RIGHT TURN OUT AND THAT JUST HELPS CLEAR THE QUEUE. SO WE DON'T HAVE CARS WAITING TO MAKE THAT LEFT HAND TURN. WHICH WOULD WHICH WOULD CAUSE A DELAY AND WITH ANYTHING WITH THE SCHOOL. WHETHER IT'S UNIFORMS. BEHAVIORAL CODES, UM, ATTENDANCE AND TARDIS, CLASSROOM EXPECTATIONS AND ALSO WITH TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AND PICK UP AND DROP UP DROP OFF PROCESSES. 
          THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT THE SCHOOL PUTS IN THEIR HANDBOOK, AND THAT'S ALL SIGNED BY EVERY SINGLE FAMILY THAT IS ADMITTED TO THE SCHOOL. SO AT FIRST THEY GO THROUGH A FAMILY INTERVIEW AND THEN THAT FAMILY THEN SIGNS THE HANDBOOK ONCE THEY ARE ADMITTED TO THE SCHOOL, AND THAT'S JUST THE CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR JUST FOR YOU TO KNOW. THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY, AND THEN IT GETS FORGOTTEN, AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING ALL SORTS OF TURNS AND MANEUVERS IN THE SITE THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING SO THAT 
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ACCOUNTABILITY IS ON BOTH SIDES, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE AND THEY'RE ALSO BE STAFF MEMBERS ON SITE. HERE. THAT WILL BE EATING THE CHILDREN IN THE LOADING AND UNLOADING OF THE VEHICLES. SO AS PART OF THE QUEUING ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY AGAIN AT THE 90 STUDENTS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRING 75 FT OF QUEUING OR THE ABILITY TO Q THREE CARS AT ONE GIVEN TIME. ON SITE. TODAY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CUTE 200 FT OF CARS AND BUT WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT SIX CARS TO BE ABLE TO QUEUE AT ONE TIME AGAIN, MAKING THAT RIGHT TURN OUT. SO WE HAVE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF QUEUING AND CAR CAPACITY THAT WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUY THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO THERE WOULD BE AN IMMENSE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR THAT Q AND AVOID ANY BACKUP ON THE EXTERNAL ROADWAYS. AND AGAIN WE'VE HAD, UM, WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF. WHICH YOU HAVE ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. UM AND SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I AM JUST GOING TO FINISH UP HERE WITH STAFFS PRESENTATION. I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT ONE FROM THE ST MARY'S CHURCH, ONE FROM LUCY DOES AND ASSOCIATES AND ONE FROM A GENTLEMAN NAMED EDWARD JUSTICE , WHO IS A PART OWNER OF PARK PHARMACY. ACROSS THE STREET. UM SPECIFICALLY THE PARK PHARMACY. YOU WANTED THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NOT SEEN A PERCEPTIBLE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WITH REGARD TO THE OAKS AND THEY THE INCREASE. IN BUSINESS TO CAUSE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM. WE DID NOT GET ANY OBJECTIONS. THE APPLICANT HAS POSTED PUBLIC NOTICE. AND WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THE FIRST ARE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THE CIRCULATION PLAN, AND THEIR JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT WOULD BE THE APPROVED DOCUMENTS. AND THEN THE SECOND WITH IT'S A STANDARD CONDITION, BUT WE DID ADD IN THAT THE MAXIMUM OF STUDENTS WOULD BE 90, WHICH IS THE FULL BUILD OUT. AND THEN ANY PERMITS THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRING IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STANDARD CONDITION, BUT THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WITH THIS PROJECT, AND I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND THEN AT NO TIME SHALL VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THIS USE, UTILIZE ANY RIGHT OF WAY FOR SPILLOVER PURPOSES. STAFF RECOMMEND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 44 2022 WITH THE AFFIRMATION AFTER MENTIONED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO CITY COMMISSION. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THIS APPROVAL GO TO THE SCHOOL? OR DOES IT GO TO ST MARY'S? BECAUSE THE SCHOOL AS THEY GROW, THEY MAY DECIDE THEY WANT TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT FACILITIES. SO THEN HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM THE APPLICANT IS TECHNICALLY THE SCHOOL. SO EVEN THOUGH THE LOCATION IS ST MARY'S, THE APPROVAL WOULD BE FOR THE SCHOOL AND AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION WE DO HAVE BOTH HAVE TO SIGN OFF THE SCHOOL AND ST MARY'S SO IT WOULD NOT RUN WITH THE LAND. OKAY, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS LIKE SHE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SHARED THAT YOU PLAN TO GROW TO 90. YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY NINETIES STUDENTS. SO DOES THAT APPROVAL JUST LIKE IF THEY SAY WE FIND ST MARY'S TOO SMALL. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY. SO DOES THIS. GO WITH THEM? OR DO THEY THEN COME BACK LIKE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF THEY WANT TO A SITE THAT ALLOWED A SCHOOL OUTRIGHT, THEY COULD GO AHEAD. IF IT REQUIRED ANOTHER CONDITIONAL USE. THEY'D BE BACK BEFORE YOU, UM THIS CONDITIONAL USES SITE SPECIFIC, OKAY? SO THERE WAS MY RECOLLECTION. THERE WAS A PRESCHOOL IN THIS PROPERTY, WHICH THEY MADE A PRESENTATION. THEY'RE WHAT ANY RECORDS OF THAT PRESCHOOL APPROVAL OR THE ONLY RECORD WE COULD ACTUALLY FIND WAS THAT RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS THE COMMENDATION OF, I THINK THE STUDENT WALKING PROGRAM UM I DO HAVE THAT BACKUP REMEMBER? YEAH UM, NO, WE DO. JUST HAVE THAT ONE RESOLUTION. WE COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE IN THE RECORDS. IT DID START SO LONG AGO THAT OH, MY RECOLLECTION IS THERE WAS THERE WAS A PRESCHOOL ON THIS PROFIT. PERSONALLY INSPECTED IT. THERE WAS AT LEAST LEAST 75. SOL 
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KNOWLEDGE, I MOVE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER FOUR. SECOND I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. FOR THE APPLICANT. SO YOU WERE ORIGINALLY. RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR THE 25 KIDS ON THE 23RD OF AUGUST LAST YEAR, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER AT THAT TIME? DID YOU PULL YOUR MEMBER? YOU'RE NOT MEMBERS. THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ENROLLMENT EXPECTED AT THAT TIME , AND JUST IN WORKING WITH STAFF . IT WAS A QUICKER TURNAROUND BECAUSE IT WAS REALIZED LATER IN THE PROCESS THAT ALL OF THESE APPROVALS WERE WOULD BE NECESSARY. SO THAT WAS REALLY A NUMBER THAT WAS ARRIVED BASED ON WHAT STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE WITH AT THE TIME, JUST KIND OF OPENING THAT DOOR AND BUT IT WASN'T BASED ON PARKING OR REALLY ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO AND THEN THIS CAME IN THIS REQUEST TO GO TO 90 CAME IN ALMOST EXACTLY SIX MONTHS LATER. 
          YES. BUT I ASSUME YOU MADE THAT DECISION THAT NOVEMBER DECEMBER, RIGHT? SO SHORTLY AFTER YOU BEGAN WITH THE 25 CHILDREN. REALIZED. I MEAN, YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE YOU NEEDED TO INCREASE THAT BY 360% WITHIN MONTHS OF BEGINNING WELL, LIKE I SAID, SO, WHEN THIS WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS CONCEPTUALIZED AND CAME TO BE. THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY LOTS OF STEPS THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH LICENSING FROM THE STATE, UM IN TERMS OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WERE NEEDED AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. AND AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS WITH SAINT MARY'S. THERE WAS A PERCEPTION THAT THERE HAD BEEN A SCHOOL THERE BEFORE, SO THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THIS WOULD FALL UNDER. BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL THE CITY GOT INVOLVED AND REALIZE HEY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO PERMIT THE SCHOOL IN THE CORRECT MANNER. THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS DETERMINED SO THEN AT THAT TIME THE 25 WAS WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED, JUST FOR IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE SCHOOL OPENING. SO WE SAID, LET'S KEEP IT SIMPLE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR. 
          BUT, YES, RIGHT AWAY, AND STAFF WAS AWARE OF THAT, TOO. RIGHT AWAY. WE SAID OKAY, LET'S GET IT OPEN. LET'S GET IN THE DOOR FOR THESE STUDENTS, AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS ARE AND THEN LOOK AT ALL THE PARKING AND SEE WHAT IS ABLE TO BE SUPPORTED. AND THAT IT WAS AGAIN IN WORKING WITH STAFF AND EVEN THE DIRECTION FROM THE FROM THE CITY COMMISSION LAST YEAR. HEY, LOOK AT ALL OF THIS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO TAKE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE AND GIVE US A MORE 5 TO 7 YEAR PLAN. ONCE EVERYTHING IS IN A ROW. SO WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, IT COULD BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE FULL CAPACITY IS REACHED. THAT'S PROBABLY PROBABLY IS REALISTIC. IT'S NOT THAT SUDDENLY NEXT FALL, YOU'RE GONNA FIND NO HOPE NOT NO. OKAY. I FOUND AN INTERESTING LINE IN ALL AREAS. PAGE 24 OF OUR AGENDA IT'S UNDER PARKING OF ALL PLACES. AND IT'S UH. WHILE THE SUBJECT SCHOOL FUNCTIONS QUITE DIFFERENTLY THAN A TRADITIONAL FIVE DAY WEEK SCHOOL SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN? HOW DO YOU DO FUNCTION? ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THAT STRUCK ME. I DON'T SURE HYBRID TRADITIONAL AND MHM, SO IT'S A BLENDING OF THERE'S A BLENDING OF THE TWO. SO IT'S A UNIVERSITY MODEL SCHOOL, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM SOME SCHOOLS OPERATE ON A TWO DAY WEEK PROGRAM. SOME SCHOOLS OPERATE ON A THREE DAY WEEK PROGRAM. THE SCHOOL AND LAST YEAR WAS OPERATED ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. SO ON THOSE DAYS, YOU GET A FULL INSTRUCTIONAL DAY WITH THE TEACHER. AND THEY'RE OUTLINING AND INTRODUCING ALL THE MATERIAL FOR THAT GIVEN WEEK . ALL THE SUBJECT MATTERS ARE COVERED FROM ENGLISH TO MATH, ARTS SCIENCE, AND THEN THE STUDENTS GO HOME ON THE OTHER. TWO OR THREE DAYS OF THE WEEK THAT THEIR HOME AND THEY TAKE THEIR ASSIGNMENT SHEETS THAT OUTLINE THESE ARE THE PAGES THAT NEED TO BE READ THE WORKSHEETS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED. AND THEN THEY'RE DOING THAT AT HOME WITH A PARENT. SO THEY'RE STILL COMPLETING. YES DOING. DO YOU ZOOM WITH THE KIDS AT HOME? HOW DO YOU MEAN? YES SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT ZOOMING SO WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THEIR IN PERSON INSTRUCTION THEIR THEIR ONE ON ONE OF THE TEACHER. RIGHT OR NOT ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE THERE IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THE TEACHER, AS YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL SCHOOL MIGHT BE BUT SMALLER CLASSROOM SIZES AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE AT HOME, YOUR ONE ON ONE WITH A PARENT GOING THROUGH YOUR LIST OF ACTIVITIES. 
          THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED FOR YOUR ASSIGNMENT SHEET AND YOU'RE COMPLETING THOSE THROUGHOUT THE 
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REST OF THE WEEK, THE BULK OF THEIR SCHOOLING THIS WITH THEIR PARENTS OR WHOMEVER, RIGHT? YES. 
          THE BULK OF INSTRUCTION TO THE PARENTS AND HOW TO EFFECTIVELY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN. YEAH, YEAH. I'M GONNA LET KATIE CREWS COME UP HERE. CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. HI. I'M THE HEAD OF SCHOOL. SO WE ARE A FIVE DAY WEEK SCHOOL, BUT WE BLEND. WE HAVE TWO CAMPUSES, SO WE HAVE THE CENTRAL CAMPUS. IS THE MARYS. AND THEN WE HAVE THAT THE SATELLITE CAMPUS WHICH IS THE STUDENTS HOME. WE DO PARENTING, EQUIPPING CO TEACHING EVENTS WITH THE PARENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SO THAT THEY ARE EQUIPPED. WE HAVE A FULL DAY IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, GOING THROUGHOUT THE CURRICULUM SO THAT THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED. BUT IT IS A TRUE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR PROFESSIONAL TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOM IN THE PARENTS, BUT THE TEACHERS ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND THEY ARE INSTRUCTING THAT AND LEADING IT IT'S INTERESTING. IT IS DEFINITELY WE ARE SO UNIVERSITY MODEL SCHOOLS ABOUT 85 IN THE COUNTRY. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT YOU HAVE JUST WE ARE A GROUP OF HYBRID SCHOOLS, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL 100 HYBRID SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY AND EXPANDING GROUP OF WHAT SCHOOLS I'M SORRY HYBRID SCHOOL, SO USING THIS TYPE OF HYBRID MODEL AND THEN UNIVERSITY IN A GROUP. THIS ISN'T A GROUP OF SCHOOLS. WE ARE, SO IT'S NOT A FRANCHISE WERE INDEPENDENT, BUT JUST EVERY EVERY PRIVATE SCHOOL. PRETTY MUCH IS PART. MOST PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE PART OF SOME GROUP OF SCHOOLS THAT KIND OF GET TOGETHER AND SHARE KNOWLEDGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE IN ONE CALLED UNIVERSITY MODEL SCHOOLS. I FIND IT INTERESTING. YOU CALL THE UNIVERSITY MODEL BECAUSE AT UNIVERSITY WELL NOSE TO A GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE, HOW MUCH PARENTS HELP THEIR CHILDREN IN COLLEGE, BUT YOU KNOW IT'S ON THE CHILDREN. COLLEGE CHILDREN, PRIMARILY, BUT THIS YOU REALLY RELY ON THE PARENTS. IT'S A IT'S A PARTNERSHIP FOR SURE. BUT IT'S ARE OUR PARENTS WANT TO BE MUCH MORE INVOLVED WITH THEIR STUDENTS, EDUCATION, OBVIOUSLY AND YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS WAY, BUT IT PROVIDES A LOT MORE. ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT TEACHER LED INSTRUCTION. THEN THEY WERE ON THEIR OWN. SO THANK YOU. AND THERE'S NO PLAN TO CHANGE THE HOURS OF THE SCHOOL, SO MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE IF IT EVER WERE TO RUN IN WITH THE STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS ARE SO CLOSE THAT IF YOU DID GROW IN LARGE NUMBER THAN THAT COULD INTERFERE WITH THEIR THAT WOULD BLOCK UP TWO LANES OF DOWNTOWN BASICALLY, AND THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. ON THE RED. ALL RIGHT, SO WE WANT TO HOW DO WE DO THAT? SINCE IT'S SOME ART EMOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND ALREADY? SECOND, OKAY ALL IN FAVOR. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. BOARD MEMBER RICH BOARD MEMBER STRONG YES. BOARD MEMBER MASSING, REMEMBER VITALI VICE CHAIR? BROWNFIELD YES, CHARLIE RINNE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES. 
          [3. Ordinance 2487-2022: Request to consider a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment from Commercial to Multi-Family Residential, a rezoning from Commercial Planned Unit Development (CPUD) to Residential Planned Unit Development (RPUD), and site plan approval to allow 60 townhouse units on 4.88 acres of land for the Sailfish Cay RPUD. The subject property is located at 751 SE Central Parkway.]
ALREADY AND SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT RIGHT? CONTINUE SO THIS IS THE SELFISH K. AGENDA ITEM. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO A DATE. 
          NOT SET NOT CERTAIN. SO WE JUST NEED A, UM EMOTION AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ALPA TO DO THAT. PLEASE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOTION POSTPONING CONTINUE CONTINUE. SORRY. ELSE LIKE THAT. DO YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL OR DO WE DO IT ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY? BOARD MEMBER STRONG YES. REMEMBER VITALY? BOARD MEMBER MASSING. VICE CHAIR. BROWNFIELD YES. REMEMBER RICH 
          [4. ATLANTIC POINT MARINA - FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE - MIDDLE ISLANDMANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT, LLC]
CHAIR, LAUREN. ALRIGHT WONDERFUL NEXT. OUR NEXT ITEM, THE ATLANTIC POINT MORITA FUTURE LAND USE AND CHAIR JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD. THIS IS IN RESPECT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THIS ONLY, UM AND SO ANY DISCUSSION SHOULD BE CENTERED AROUND THAT. THANK YOU. 
          MHM. GOOD EVENING L P A BOARD TOM REED, SENIOR PLANNER. FOR THE RECORD, I WILL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT'S, UM, PRESENTATION. THIS AS MENTIONED. THIS IS A LAND USE CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MARINA INDUSTRIAL. AND IT IS BY SEPARATE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE. 24 85 2022. SO THE OWNER JEFF HARDEN, IS THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF MIDDLE ISLAND MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT LLC. 
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AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AREA OF THE SITE IS LOCATED EAST OF DIXIE HIGHWAY. AND FLAGLER AVENUE. IT'S WEST OF THE ST LUCIE, REV. RIVER AND WEST OF THE NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY THAT TOM ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. AND EAST OF THE FCC RAILWAY LINE. THE SITE CAN IS MADE UP OF 10.81 ACRES, OF WHICH ONLY 7.86 ACRES ARE DRY LAND. SO IF WE LOOK AT POLICY A 7.1. FOR INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. WE SEE THAT IT ALLOWS THE FOLLOWING STARTING WITH MANUFACTURING ASSEMBLY PROCESSING PACKAGING RESEARCH. STORAGE OF PRODUCTS. WAREHOUSING WHOLESALE ACTIVITY MACHINE REPAIRED LIMITED INTO A RETAIL SALES. PROFESSIONAL AND OTHER OFFICES. NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT POLICY, A 7.1, UM FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL, THE PROPOSED MOVEMENT TO THIS LAND USE WE SEE THAT IT ALLOWS FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE INDUSTRIAL MARINE USES WHILE IT ALSO ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL. OFFICE LODGING MARINAS. AND CIVIC USES. SO IF WE LOOK AT SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF WHAT EXISTS THE USES THAT POLICY 7.1 E FOR THE INDUSTRIAL AND USE ALLOWS. YOU CAN SEE THESE THAT I JUST MENTIONED MOVING TO THE PROPOSED LAND USE. WE SEE THAT IT INCLUDES THE COMMERCIAL THE OFFICE SLIDING MARINAS AND CIVIC USES. NOW WHEN WE GO AND LOOK AT THE TAPE OF LAND DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND MARINE INDUSTRIAL FOR THE FLOOR AREA RATIO. UH IRONICALLY, THEY'RE BOTH THREE. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE FOR A AH RATIO THAT YOU WOULD APPLY TO A MAXIMUM BUILD OUT ANALYSIS. POLICY 183.2. MM OTHER CITIES, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. DIRECT DEVELOPMENT TO AREAS WHERE THERE'S ALREADY ADEQUATE SERVICES AND UTILITIES. AND WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS DRAFT LETTERS FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENT STATING THAT THERE ARE ADEQUATE CAPACITY CURRENTLY TO SERVE THE SUBJECT SITE AS WELL AS I LETTER FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SIMILARLY STATING THAT THE STEWARD FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN SERVICE THE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THE COM PLAN . OBJECTIVE ONE POINT B ONE STATES. OR ASKED FOR A COMPACT URBAN FORM. IT DISCOURAGES URBAN STRAW. UM AND WE CAN SEE THAT. 
          IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. THE CITY HAS MET WITH A AN APPLICANT WHO WILL APPLY FOR A MARINE INDUSTRIAL USE. UM THIS PROPOSAL THAT IS GOING TO BE APPLIED FOR WILL ENHANCE THE PATTERN AND DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE. AND CONVENIENT TO CITY RESIDENTS IS CITY RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND VISITORS AND AVOIDS INAPPROPRIATE AND WASTEFUL USE OF WATERFRONT LAND. SIMILARLY IN POLICY ONE POINT B. 3.2. ALL DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE COMPATIBLE WITH AND IT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO SURROUNDING LAND USES AND SHALL NOT UNDULY AFFECT EXISTING APPROVED ACTIVITIES. SO I MENTIONED EARLIER. THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING ESTABLISHED MARINE INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT LAND USE PATTERNS TO THE NORTH. AND REUSE THE PROPERTY WITH A MORE EFFECTIVE SITE LAYOUT AND MIX OF USES WILL ADD SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE TERMS OF DESIGN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES. WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED LETTER A LETTER FROM MARTIN COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT STATING THAT THIS ADDRESS IS IN A PREFERRED LOCATION UNDER THE BOAT FACILITIES, CITING PLAN IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION. FOR THE BOAT. FACILITIES. 
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MARINA. THIS CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION, AND NOW THE APPLICANT WILL GET THEIR PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF RECOMMENDATION. FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS DON QUASARS. OH REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT TONIGHT, AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH LARRY. MY SON WAS BORN 1989 . HE WENT TO THAT PRESCHOOL. SO I KNOW IS THERE AFTER 1980? THE FIVE. SO AGAIN. MY NAME IS DON QUASARS. OH AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING MIDDLE OF MANAGEMENT AND AFTER YOU RECEIVED A PRIMER AND PLANNING ONE OH, ONE FROM MR MARTEL. UH WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO TELL DISCUSS THE LAND USE THE LAND USE APPROPRIATE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM AND NORMALLY, IN MY WAY, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 45 YEARS THAT WE ALWAYS HAD A SEPARATION BETWEEN LAND USE ZONING PLAN, BUT WE DID THEM IN A ROW. IN COSTCO'S CASE, IT APPEARS YOU DID THEM TOGETHER. 
          SO BUT IN THIS CASE WE'RE IN THE C R A. SO UNFORTUNATELY YOU WON'T GET TO SEE THE WONDERFUL, AMAZING PROJECT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM AND IT IS EXCITING FOR ME TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. BEEN DOING THIS. LIKE I SAID FOR 45 YEARS AND I REMEMBER EVEN BEFORE THAT WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL THAT FIGHT E . THIS WAS LIKE THE MOST MYSTERIOUS SITE IN ALL OF MARTIN COUNTY. I MEAN, EVERY WORD WAS OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW YOU WERE LIKE, REALLY LUCKY IF YOU GOT TO WORK THERE. AND YOU WERE AND THEY WERE DID A GREAT SERVICE TO MARTIN COUNTY. FOR THOSE OF US WHO BETTER A LONG TIME BECAUSE BEFORE SITO AND TOWBOAT YOU ASKED, THEY HAD GUYS TESTING OUTBOARD MOTORS AND BOATS. THEIR THEIR JOB WAS TO BREAK THE STUFF, BUT IF YOU BROKE DOWN OUT THERE, THEY WOULD TELL YOU BACK AND THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT THEY DID FOR THAT. FOR THOSE THINGS, AND IF YOU KNEW SOMEBODY, YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET A MOTOR AT DISCOUNT. OVER THE YEARS, UM, SO AS AS WAS SHOWN BY STAFF. THIS IS THE SIDE. UM AND YOU CAN SEE THERE. UM, THE PROJECT THERE. THAT WAS THE STUFF THAT EVAN RUUD AND LATER BOMBARDIER HAD USED AND THEY REALLY DID DO WHAT WAS LISTED AS YOU SAW IN THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND I'LL GO TO THAT, AND THEY THEY ASSEMBLED. THEY BUILT THEIR RESEARCH. THEY TESTED MATERIALS. THEY DID ALL KINDS OF INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES. THE PROPERTIES EVOLVED, BUT IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE , UM ER WANT TO BE A MARINA AND WE AND WITH THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE WERE IT CHANGES THE LITTLE BIT OF ACTIVITIES? I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU'VE SEEN RECENTLY SOME OF YOU. HAVE YOU BEEN ON THE SIDE THAT THEY'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEMOING. A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WAS THERE. ALL OF IT ACTUALLY IS GOING EXCEPT FOR ONE BUILDING. 
          UM AND SAY AGAIN. THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T GET TO SEE US IN THE FUTURE WITH REGARD TO THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCH AN ASSET FOR THE CITY OF STEWART. UH BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE C R A AND THE CRB GETS TO REVIEW HAVE FUN WITH US ON THAT , UM, AGAIN, THE LAND USE MAP GOES THERE. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS INDUSTRIAL. UM AND WE DO HAVE THAT PIECE NEXT TO US. AND FROM WHAT? I'VE BEEN TOLD, AND NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM, BUT THEY ARE MORE OF THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE OF A RIGGER. THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THINGS THAT HAVE MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY WHERE THEY'LL TAKE A NEW BOAT IS BEING BUILT. AND THEN I'LL FINISH IT OFF THERE WITH RADIOS AND ANTENNAS AND OUTRIGGERS AND WHATEVER ELSE GOES ON NEW BOATS TODAY. SO THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL POLICY AS WE'VE SAID, AND UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S MARINE REPAIR. 
          WE ARE PROPOSING IN OUR LAND USE WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS LAND USE THAT WE ARE DOING ANY KIND OF MARINE REPAIR RETAIL SALES. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WERE GOING TO BE THERE. BUT MORE. 
          THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE A MARINA. IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE. AGAIN THERE'S THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE LUCKY AND GOOD FOR US TO THE ANALYSIS FOR TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THE OTHER. ABOUT OUR SERVICES NEEDED ARE THE SAME. AND FOR THE BOTH OF THE LAND USES. UM THERE'S OUR LAND USE AGAIN. IT DOES ALLOW SOME OTHER USES THAT WEREN'T IN THE INDUSTRIAL IN PARTICULARLY MULTI FAMILY, I, YOU KNOW IRRELEVANT WHAT I SAY HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T RELY ON IT. WE AREN'T DOING RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE NO RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION IS WITH SOUTH AND THIS BEING REVIEWS THAT THAT AND THERE IS A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS THAT WILL OCCUR ON OUR SITE BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF LAND USE. AS OPPOSED TO THE INDUSTRIAL SITE, WHICH YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO WANDER AROUND YOUR PROPERTY AND AN INDUSTRIAL LAND YOURS. 
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EXISTING ZONING NOT DOING ANYTHING. ANY CHANGES TO THAT. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY IT. SO YOUR CHARGE REALLY IS. IS THIS INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE IN THIS LOCATION? AND I SUBMIT THAT THEY THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE, AND IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MARINE INDUSTRY IS ONE OF MARTIN COUNTIES IN THE CITY OF STUDENTS. NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC DRIVERS. IT HAS BEEN AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND I THINK IT WILL BE FOR A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE. I'D BE GLAD THAT WE ALSO HAVE OUR TEAM OWNER, LAWYER ENGINEER CONTRACTOR REAL MALL HERE TONIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAND USE I CAN ANSWER IT, BUT YOU CAN GO HARD. AND WITH THAT STAFF BASED ON STAFF ANALYSIS, AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SAS RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE BOARD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE. 24 85 2022, MOVING THE ITEM FORWARD TO THE CRB AND CITY COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ONE. WHERE ELSE DOES THIS LAND USE EXISTENCE? THE PRIMARY ALONG THIS STRETCH. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 14.5 ACRES OF THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE IN THE CITY. UM SO FROM WHERE THIS HAS BEING THIS GOES RIGHT UP RIGHT UP. IT DOESN'T GO THE RIGHT THE WAY UP. IT ENCOMPASSES A FEW MORE PROPERTIES ON THAT STRETCH OF THE WATERFRONT. SO. 14.5 ACRES IN TOTAL. I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS PALM CITY. A BIT FURTHER NORTH. NORTH OF THAT, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THERE ARE SOME UNDERLYING LAND USES, WHICH ARE STILL MARINE INDUSTRIAL. YES. YOUR FUTURE LAND USE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. DIDN'T MEAN TO YOUR CURRENT THE DIFFERENT THAN PRIMARY DIFFERENTIAL WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING MARINE INDUSTRIAL AGAINST INDUSTRIAL IS THAT INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW MARINAS AND ASSOCIATED ACTIVITIES WITH THAT USE, UM. THE APPLICANT AND WE DID MENTION THAT IT COULD THIS FUTURE LAND USE CAN ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS LIMITED TO 25% OF THE SITE. UM AS A WHOLE. AS A WHOLE IN THE CITY. I THINK WE HAVE AROUND 140 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE. IN ESSENCE. ON A WATERFRONT. IS AN INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE THE BED HIGHEST AND BEST, MOST APPROPRIATE USE. 
          FOR THAT PROPERTY. UM TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS AREA HAS ALSO BEEN IDENTIFIED. AS A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR A MARINA AND BOAT FACILITY CITING AND WE RELY, THE CITY RELIES ON THE COUNTY'S, UM, PREFERRED LOCATION MAP. TO ENCOURAGE MARINA USE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. WHAT'S THE FUTURE LAND USE ACROSS THE STREET OF DEAL? RIGHT POINT. THAT'S DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S A AN ESSENCE OF FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS INHERENT TO THE SIERRA. UM THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE INITIAL. URBAN DISTRICT ZONING AND MAINTAINED AS INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE OF THAT EXISTING USE ON THAT PROPERTY, SO IN ESSENCE, IT WAS GRANDFATHERED IN THROUGH ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE NOT BEING CHANGED WHEN THE URBAN DISTRICT WAS PUT IN PLACE. SO THERE WAS A RECOGNITION THAT THIS LOCATION SHOULD BE INDUSTRIAL OR MARINE INDUSTRIAL . UM AND AS WE MOVED ON, OBVIOUSLY, THEN THE GRAND FATHERED USE AND ACTIVITY ON SITE AS GONE AWAY. AND SO WE NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. TO ENCOURAGE MARINE USE ON THIS OCCASION. SO THOSE THREE PARCELS THAT I SEE WHICH IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND THE OTHER TWO PARCELS. THOSE ARE THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL. THAT'D BE THE OLD LYDIA YACHTS OR PUMP CITY. 
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HARVARD OR SOME OF OUR VIRGIN AS FOR THE DAY. THE AVERAGE IS MARINE INDUSTRIAL. IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS. SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE. YES. KEVIN. FOR THE APPLICANT DOES NOT OWN THE VACANT LOT JUST DIRECTLY ABOVE THE NO, THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY IN PROCESS AT THE MOMENT, I BELIEVE AS A SEPARATE APPLICATION, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WELL, YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE ON THAT. I'M SURE IN THE FUTURE SO WOULD THIS CHANGE ALLOWED THEM TO DEVELOP FACILITIES ON THE SITE? BESIDES THE IN AND OUT SIDES OF PEOPLE, DOCTOR THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HAVE GREATER ACCESS TO THE SAME. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY, FOR, UM, CREATING MORE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN A SORT OF HYBRID PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO GETTING PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE WATER. UM AGAIN, I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO ONCE THIS GETS THROUGH THE CLB IS BRING BACK A PRESENTATION OF THE SITE PLAN TO THE L P A. TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO GO ON HERE. UM AND THEN JUST AS A PRESENTATION, AND THAT CAN BE DONE ANY TIME. UM BUT IT DOES GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIREMENTS DOING, YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP A ACCESS ON THE WATERFRONT IN THIS LOCATION, UM , AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE STORMWATER. UM, TO OUR CURRENT STANDARDS. AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FACILITIES THAT THIS THE CITY DON'T DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO AT THE MOMENT. THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WITH SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. SO MOVED TAKE IT. COURT MEMBER RICH YES. BOARD MEMBER MASSING? YES. BOARD MEMBER OF VITALI, BOARD MEMBER STRONG YES. CHAIR. BROWNFIELD YES, CHARLIE GREEN. UNDER FEL STUFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES? THANK YOU CHAIR NOW. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE ARE
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