May 03, 2022 Community Redevelopment Board

[CALL TO ORDER]

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AFTERNOON. IF WE COULD DO THE ROAD HOLD, PLEASE CHILDREN. CHAIR CAMPENNI VICE CHAIR. DULY MEMBER LUIS BOARD MEMBER MAKE HAMSON REMEMBER SCHROTH REMEMBER WAKA? REMEMBER WILSON. WE COULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. BUDGET LESIONS. STATES. THE MOTION FOR THE APPROVED THE

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[2. PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR FY 2022.]

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OKAY? SURE YEAH, THE APPLICANT THERE. THAT THE APPLICANT. I INVITED ALL THE APPLICANTS.

BOARD WANT TO DISCUSS THAT? I HAVE A COUPLE OF GENERAL THOUGHTS ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS AND ALSO I. I WANT TO BRING THEM UP TO MAKE A MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO PASS. THIS IS A POTENTIAL LOOKS FINE ART PHOTOGRAPHY SO WE CAN SORRY. THE PERSON COSMETIC PLASTIC SURGERY SO WE CAN DISCOVER DISCUSSION. AND THE WAY OF A SECOND. THANKS. GO AHEAD, OKAY? DO DO WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WHEN WE GIVE THEM THIS MONEY THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ANY KIND OF A HAMMER TO GO WITH THIS CARROT OR A STICK OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT THAT GOES WITH THIS. TO MAKE SURE THE LANDSCAPE ACTUALLY STAYS. WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE AGREEMENT, AND ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD DO THAT FOR ALL OF THEM THAT INCLUDE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE YOU CAN PLANT THINGS AND , YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE LIVING THINGS IF THEY AREN'T TAKEN CARE OF, AND THEY'LL GO AWAY, AND SUDDENLY THE STREET LOOKS THE SAME. SO THAT'S 11.

GENERAL THING. AND THE OTHER THING IS, I NOTICED THAT. THERE'S BASICALLY 80 POINTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SO IT'S NOT 100 IN THAT MOST OF THEM DIDN'T HIT THE 100. NO, IT'S TOTAL 80 POINT GENERAL THINKING IS THAT IF THEY HIT 70 THAN THEY WERE AT 88. OF THE THING IN MY GENERAL THINKING IS, IS THAT IF SOMEBODY HITS 100% THEY OUGHT TO GET 100% OF THE MONEY. IF THEY DON'T. MAYBE IT SHOULD BE ADJUSTED, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THOSE GENERAL THINGS AS WE WENT THROUGH. THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. HERE'S ANYBODY ELSE? FRANK'S COMING ANYWAY. WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPING. I AGREE WITH FRANK. WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER ONE ABOUT PERCENTAGE NG OUT MONEY.

BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE POINTS THEY GET. I GUESS. I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT IF THEY GET 70 POINTS, THEY'VE GOT 88% OF IT. THAT THERE ARE MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE ONLY SPECIFICALLY GEARED TO LIKE FIXING A FRONT PORCH OR AN AWNING. OR SOME LANDSCAPING.

THAT IF THEY DON'T TOUCH ON ONE OF THE ISSUES THEN THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY GET 100. AND THEY CAN'T GET 100% OF THE MONEY. AND YET WHAT THEY ARE TOUCHING ON MAY BE IMPORTANT ENOUGH. THAT THEY SHOULD GET THE MONEY REGARDING MY GOD, EVERYBODY ELSE. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S THESE ARE VALID POINTS, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN. WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO STAY WITH THIS. AND IF YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE A AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FUTURE ABOUT YES, WE COULD DO THAT. OKAY? SELF UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE CAN I GET? CAN WE TAKE HIM HOME? PUBLIC COMMENT. VICE CHAIR, DOOLEY. BORN MEMBER, LUIS BOARD MEMBER SCHROTH. BOARD MEMBER MAKE HAMSON. REMEMBER, WAKA, REMEMBER WILSON. CHAIR CAMPENNI.

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I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT THAT GENERAL COMMON POINTS SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO SINCE WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA IS TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG, SO EVERYBODY THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP ONCE DINNER. OKAY LOOKS FINE ART AND PHOTOGRAPHY. OKAY, SO LET'S FIND OUR IS LOCATED IN OUR TRIANGLE DISTRICTS. IT'S BY THE CHURCH SITE. UM IT'S A LONG ALBANY AVENUE AND ON THE BACK IS THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FUNDING FOR REPAVING THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND THE DRIVEWAY, PAPER BLOCK WALKWAY AND SEATING AREA LANDSCAPING, EXTERIOR PAINTING AND REPAIR THE FRONTS, TOO. THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS $25,000. AH HERE'S EXISTING CONDITIONS ALONG ALBANY AVENUE. THE APPLICANT HAS INVESTED A LOT OF FUNDING TO IMPROVE THE EXTERIOR ALONG ALBANY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FUNDING TO IMPROVE ALONG THE ALLEYWAY. UH THERE IS AN EXISTING CRACK IN THE PARKING LOT THAT'S IMPACTING THE STRUCTURE. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO IMPROVE THOSE, UH THOSE ELEMENTS AND ALSO PLANT SOME TREES ALONG THE BLANK WALL . THERE'S ALSO AN ISLAND SO THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO PUT SOME SHADE TREE IN THAT ISLAND. STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT. IDENTIFY THE RIGHT TREE. UM, THAT TAKING PLACE IN THAT ISLAND. MOVE APPROVAL SECOND. DISCUSSION. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THE APPLICANT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? IF I WERE YOU, I WOULDN'T BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, PLEASE. WHEN I WANT TO THANK ROLL, PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER, LOUIS, REMEMBER SCHROTH. REMEMBER MAKE HAMSON SORDELLII.

REMEMBER WAKA REMEMBER? WILSON? YES, CAMPENNI. THE THIRD APPLICANT IS DIVE TRAINING AND EDUCATION CENTER. IT'S ON DEKKER AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS VISIBLE FROM THE TRACKS WHERE THE BRIGHT LINE WILL GO BY. AND ALSO LONG DECKER. UH, THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO CLEAR THE SHRUBS AND ADD SOME NEW LANDSCAPING. THE TROLL COST OF THE PROJECT IS $4000. THIS IS FAIRLY SMALL PROJECT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PLAN JAPANESE BLUEBERRY TREE ALONG THE FRONT AND SIDE OF DEKKER AVENUE AND CLEARING THE SHRUBS IN THE BACK AND PLANTING SOME FISHTAIL PALMS. UM TO IMPROVE THE AESTHETIC, UM, WHEN THE TRAIN GOES BY, AND VISIBILITY WILL BE APPARENT FROM THE TRACK SO THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SOME FUNDING FOR LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. ADDED. APPLICANTS SCORED A TOTAL OF 60 POINTS, UM , SO THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO RECEIVE GRANTS. THE APPLICANT HERE. YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING? LET'S DO IF YOU WANT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP EVEN TO SAY THAT. OKAY YEAH. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? SEE NONE. JORDANS. VICE CHAIR. DULY REMEMBER LOUIS? REMEMBER SCHROTH? REMEMBER WAKA. REMEMBER, WILSON? YES. REMEMBER MAKE HAMSON CAMPENNI CHAIR CAMPENNI. OKAY? ARE FOUR APPLICATION IS STUART CERAMIC ART STUDIO. THIS IS IN OUR ARTS

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EMOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE FROM THE BOARD? JUST ONE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BENCH. PETE IF THERE'S A BENCH TIME BENCHES WORTH 50 POINTS JUST TO START IT'S GOTTA TREAT SHADE TREE TREE TREE, THE APPLICANT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? MHM. BOARD MEMBER LOUIS YES. VICE CHAIR, DOOLEY. BOARD MEMBER MAKE HAMSON REMEMBER SHROUD. REMEMBER WILSON, REMEMBER WAKA CAMPENNI? OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS CARE PLUS ASSOCIATES. THIS IS IN THE FRASER CRESCENT NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE SIERRA RECENTLY DID THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT APPLICANTS REQUESTING FUNDING FOR PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPING AND BENCH. TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS ABOUT $8000. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY SINCE THE CRE MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. UM HERE ARE SOME CONCEPTS WHERE THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PUT SHADE TREES ALONG THE ALONG THE CORNER OF MCPHERSON AND CHANNEL AVENUE. AND ALSO SOME PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS AND BENCH CLOSER TO US ONE. AND THERE WAS SOME CONCEPTS PROVIDED WITH YOUR AGENDA. PACKAGE OF LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDES TREES AND SOME GROUND COVERS. AND APPLICANT DID SCORE 70 POINTS AND QUALIFIES FOR THE GRANT. MILLER APPROVAL. WHEN YOU DISCUSS YOUR FROM THE BOARD. THE APPLICANT HERE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SAYING NONE.

JORDANS. BOARD MEMBER LOUIS YES. BOARD MEMBER SCHROTH. BOARD MEMBER MAKE HAMSON VICE CHAIR DUELING. REMEMBER WAKA REMEMBER WILSON CAMPENNI. THE LAST APPLICANT IS GREEN BUILDING, WHICH IS LOCATED IN OUR DOWNTOWN . IT'S BETWEEN LUNA'S AND LYRICS THEATER THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ALUMINUM AWNING. THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY $27,000. THE APPLICANT QUALIFIES TO RECEIVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF $10,000 FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF EXISTING AWNING IS IN POOR CONDITION AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. AH! STAFF BELIEVES THAT RESTORING THIS ALUMINUM AWNING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR DOWNTOWN AND PROVIDES SHADE. UM IT ALSO COVERS FROM THE RAIN. YEAH AND IT'S IT SERVES AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT IN OUR DOWNTOWN. UM AND IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL AWNING, UH, WITH FABRIC MATERIAL, SO IT HAS A LONG LIFE AND DURABILITY STAFF FEELS THAT THIS IS QUALIFIES AS A SHADE STRUCTURE REQUIREMENT. AND UM, THE APPLICANT SCORED 70 POINTS AND QUALIFIES FOR THE GRANT. MOVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. THINKING. MAKING THE SECOND I DID OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BOOK BY THE WARD. QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THIS RELATED TO ANY KIND OF STREET DINING OR OR PARKING LOT? OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. THE APPLICANT HERE YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? YEAH. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. ARE WE GOING TO REPLACE IT? IN KEEPING WITH THE DECO MODERN WHATEVER. REPLACE IT, AS IS. WHERE ARE WE GONNA DO? COME UP, SIR CORNING'S OR SOMETHING. AND STATE YOUR NAME.

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BORN MEMBER MAKE HAMSON BOARD MEMBER WAKA REMEMBER WILSON. REMEMBER LEWIS, VICE CHAIR, DULY CHAIR, CAMPENNI. IN BOARD MEMBER SCHROTH. YES. UM I JUST THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND THE FUNDING ALLOCATION IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $43,000, AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE C R A ON MAY 23RD FOR FINAL HOW MUCH DO WE STILL HAVING THAT PROBLEM? $50,000 100,000 TOTAL WE'RE GONNA BE ALLOCATING ABOUT $43,000 14,000 REMAINING, OKAY?

[3. STUART COURTHOUSE UPUD:]

DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN BACK TO THE BOARD. OKAY? MR CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE ONE THING I NEED TO SAY RIGHT IN ADVANCE. AND THAT IS THAT I SPOKE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AS TO WHETHER I WOULD HAVE A CONFLICT ON THIS. AND IT WAS UNDETERMINED. HE HAS SUBSEQUENTLY SO I SENT FORM VIA AND HERE'S SUBSEQUENTLY TOLD ME THAT I DO NOT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. AND SO CONSEQUENTLY I WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE AND I WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AND DO JUST THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH THIS ITEM, OKAY? AND JUST AS A POINT OF CARE FOR APPLICATION. THE REASON I HAD SAID THAT TO MR WALKER WAS BECAUSE HE INVOLVED IN A RELATIONSHIP. PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. IN THE HEAVENLY, A PROJECT WITH THE ENTITY AND WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE READ IT COMING UP. I THOUGHT HE WAS REFERENCING. NEW URBAN APPLYING FOR RITA. AT 11, LEAH AND I'M THAT CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE HE WAS A PRINCIPLE OF HAVING LEAH I FELT THAT THERE WAS IN FACT. THE POTENTIAL TO IGNORE TO HIS FINANCIAL BENEFIT OR DETRIMENT AND, AS A RESULT WOULD HAVE A CONFLICT. BUT MR WAKA, I'M ASSUMING HE WOULD HAVE TO TELL US OTHERWISE HAS NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE COURTHOUSE COMMONS PROJECT, AND AS A RESULT, I DON'T BELIEVE A CONFLICT EXISTS UNLESS NO, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THAT CHAIR JUST TO DISCLOSE FULLY THAT. THE SAME THING THAT APPLIES TO FRANK APPLIES TO ME. THANK YOU. IS THIS? WHAT? WE JUST CLOSE IT WITH MY WELL, THIS IS NOT. THIS IS NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL. SO DO WE HAVE TO DO IT? WE'RE ON THE COURTHOUSE, UPU D. CITY COMMISSIONER. IF YOU FEEL IF YOU IF YOU FEEL YOU WANT TO DO IT PLEASE GO AHEAD. OK YEAH. NICK YES. I'VE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I DID ALSO AND NEXT TO THE ATTORNEY TOLD ME I COULD I SPOKE TO HIM ON THE PHONE. OH, ZOOM. NO. I HAVE NOT MET. I HAVE NOT. HE WORKS. I HAVE MET WITH THE APPLICANT. SO NOW IT'S ALL OUT THERE. OH, MY GOD. OKAY, GO RIGHT AHEAD, TOM. GOOD AFTERNOON CRB BOARD TOM REED, SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. UM AS AS YOU MENTIONED CHAIR. THIS IS A

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VEHICLES THAT OVERHANG INTO THE LANDSCAPE THEORY THAT IS LESS THAN TWO FT. PARKING WITHIN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WITHIN THE CITY OF STEWART COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 55 SHARED PARKING SPACES. WHERE 56 SHARED PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED. AND JUST TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT. THE BUFFER AND IN THE URBAN AREA IS FIVE FT. THIS BUFFER THAT SEPARATES THE PARKING FROM THE PROPERTY FURTHER TO THE EAST IS RANGES FROM ONE FT, AND IT GETS WIDER TO ABOUT FOUR FT AT THE NORTH END. AND ALSO THESE PARKING SPACES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL, BUT THEY'RE SHORTER THAN THE 18 FT REQUIRED. AND WHEN THEY'RE 16 FT IN THIS CASE THERE IS A REQUIRED TO FOOT OVERHANG INTO A LANDSCAPED AREA. SO THIS LANDSCAPED AREAS, NOT QUITE TWO FT. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE VARIOUS REQUESTS IN THAT REGARD. THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION AND I WERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS HIS PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? STEP. YEAH I DO. COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO, UM. OBVIOUSLY THIS PARCEL HAS GOT A PRETTY CHECKERED PAST. UM WHAT ARE THE ASSUMING THE PARKING CALCULATIONS? I READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT OVER AT THE SITE. PLANES ARE READ THROUGH EVERYTHING OR ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PARKING ALLOCATED TO THE EXISTING CIVITAS? BUILDING.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE SUBJECTS OF THIS APPLICATION. SO YOU RIGHTLY BRING UP THAT. THIS APPLICATION HAS A LONG HISTORY BEHIND IT. IT'S A IT'S A TYPICAL SITE IN THE CITY CR A. THAT IT BRINGS TO THE BOARD A LOT OF BAGGAGE WITH IT. THAT ORIGINALLY , I THINK IN 2000 AND TWO IN THE INFANCY OF THE ER, A AND THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND THE NEW CONCEPT OF UM, APPROVING OR

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ACCEPTED ON STREET PARKING THAT'S ADJACENT TO DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE COUNTED AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. UME DEVELOPER PUTS THAT IN AND PAYS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THOSE, UH, STALLS. IN OTHER CASES, THE CONTRIBUTION IS TAKEN FROM THE DEVELOPER AND PUT INTO A FUND IN THE C R A FOR PARKING. THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY IS APPLIED WHEN IT COMES TO ALLOCATING OR ACCEPTING THAT WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN WITH USES THAT TRANSFER OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY. AND ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TO USE IS WE WON'T DO THAT. BUT I HAVE I DO KNOW AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST. COUNTED SOME OF THOSE ON STREET PARKING SPECIFICALLY IN AREAS AROUND DOWNTOWN. THERE ARE IN PROXIMITY TO DEVELOPMENT AS BEING ABLE TO BE COUNTED HAS BEEN USEFUL AT THE CASE BY CASE BASIS. EXACTLY THAT'S UM AGAIN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL . THAT'S THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD. TO COME TO A DECISION ABOUT OR RECOMMENDATION WELL AND HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND NOT TO GET OFF POINT ON SOMETHING HERE. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN PROBABLY NEEDS A BIGGER CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T. I THINK THE PROJECT HAS PLANNED IS FINE. TIM'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT AZUL AND HOW THAT OPERATES AND THAT DRAWS A DIRECT PARALLEL. AND SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THINK THAT THAT WILL RESOLVE THIS PROPERTY SPECIFIC. PAID HIM BUT YOU KNOW , PARKING IN DOWNTOWN IS ALWAYS A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE, AND IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING TO JUST GET OUT IN FRONT OF AS MORE AND MORE

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BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO STUDY BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON IT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS WHAT WAS OUR RATIONALE FOR NOT ALLOWING BUILDINGS. ENCLOSED PARKING. I MEAN, I'M OLDER THAN DIRT. I WAS PROBABLY HERE WHEN WE PASSED IT, BUT I MEAN, YEAH, WELL, IT PREDATES ME PREDATES, YOU KNOW, STAFF HERE. THE ORIGINAL. UH URBAN CODE, I THINK. I THINK THE INTENTION IS TO NOT HAVE BLANK SPACE WALL SPACES ON GROUND FLOOR FIRST FLOOR AROUND THE TOWN. SO IF YOU HAVE PARKING UNDERNEATH EVERY BUILDING AND IT HAS OFFERS NO ACTIVITY TO THE PEDESTRIAN. THEN REALLY, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORST FORM OF DEVELOPMENT OR A DOWNTOWN THAT YOU COULD GET. THE INTENT OF THE CODE IS TO ENCOURAGE SHOP FRONTS. ENTRANCES TO RESIDENCES OR OFFICERS AT FIRST FLOOR, DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY FOR SATURDAY NIGHT, UM, TO LOOK AT WITHIN YOUR CODE. IN THAT IN THAT NOW IT SEEMS TO ME WE WERE HEADED TOWARD ALLEYWAYS WITH PARKING BEHIND. YEAH AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THE SHOP FRONTS AND YOU DO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN FIELD. BUT YOU'VE GOT THE PARKING HIDDEN AWAY BEHIND THE BUILDINGS BEFORE YOU DO THAT . YOUR CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN DON'T GET TO TALK. NO, BUT I DON'T LIKE IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING I DON'T NEED TO IF YOU DON'T NEED TO DECODE, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BRING BACK A ITEM. ABOUT PARKING, AND ABOUT THAT

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THANK YOU. KIMBERLY AND SAYS FOR THE PETITIONER URBAN AND WE ARE MY ADDRESS IS 200 CONGRESS PARK DRIVES TO A ONE DELRAY BEACH FOR SO THIS IS A PROJECT AS YOU WELL KNOW, THAT HAS A LONG AND CHECKERED, I THINK WAS THE ADJECTIVE THAT WAS USED HISTORY AND SO, UM, WE'RE HOPEFULLY HERE TO FOR THE LAST TIME THERE'S BEEN A FEW PROPOSALS ON THIS PROJECT SINCE IT WAS INITIALLY INTRODUCED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. IN THE FIRST PHASE, CIVITAS WAS ACTUALLY BUILT. AND SO NOW WE'RE HERE TO HOPEFULLY FINISH FINISH IT OFF. SO. JUST A LITTLE QUICK BACKGROUND HERE. I THINK A LOT OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS. BUT THIS IS US CENSUS DATA PROGRAM THAT THEY PUT OUT CALLED ON THE MAP, AND IT BASICALLY SHOWS. ZERO TO THE LEFT THE DARK GREEN ARROW. GETS UPDATED EVERY TIME THEY EITHER UPDATE THE CENSUS OR THEY DO IN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES SURVEY WHICH IS A BATTERY FIVE YEARS OR SO. AND UM , CENSUS. OBVIOUSLY EVERY 10 YEARS. THIS SHOWS THE DARK GREEN. THIS IS NOT POPULATION. THIS IS WORKERS. THIS SHOWS THAT THE BAR TO THE LEFT. THE DARK GREEN BAR SHOWS THAT 27,645 UM, PEOPLE COME IN. DOWNTOWN STUART

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ONLY 3500. PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS AREA, LEAVE TO GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND 900 PEOPLE STAY. WORK, LIVE AND WORK BALK IN THE AREA. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE A PLACE.

KIND OF ENVIABLE IN SOME RESPECTS, AND THAT'S WHAT ENVIABLE AND OTHERS WHAT AMIABLE IS THAT YOU HAVE A PLACE WITH JOBS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO WAS NOT SO ENVIABLE. DON'T HAVE HOUSING. FOR OPTIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ELSEWHERE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN. THAT'S WHAT CAUSES TRAFFIC. AMONG OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S A BIG IT'S A BIG REASON FOR TRAFFIC. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM WELL , I THINK IT'S BEEN A POLICY OF THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S REFLECTED IN YOUR COMP PLAN IN YOUR ZONE CODE IS TO TRY TO DO THINGS THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING TO BE BUILT IN THE DOWN. DOWNTOWN AREA. BRINGS US TO THE ACTUAL PROJECT. SO THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED OBVIOUSLY. I'M EITHER SIDE OF DETROIT. BETWEEN. UM AS VIOLA AND OCEAN SOUTH. OCEAN IN SOUTHEAST AUSTRALIA. EAST END OF THE DAY. THIS IS GOING BACK IN HISTORY A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS THE 2000 AND SIX PLAN. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR THE PROJECT. MASSING. TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEFT WITH FOUR STORY BUILDINGS WITH IT WAS GOING OVER THE TOP. UM THE SHOWS VARY, SALVATION. OCEAN ELEVATION. RIGHT? MEANWHILE, WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. I'M NOT THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU SHOWED THIS TO ME. WEIRD ANYWAY. SO THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT CAME IN 2013, AND THEN HE HAD LIKE PARKING STRUCTURE ON THE INSIDE WITH A RAMP AND EVERYTHING. THAT PROJECT NEVER HAPPEN. NO IDEA WHY. WASN'T ON MINE LIKE THAT. SO ANYWAY, JUST USE YOUR IMAGINATION. TILT YOUR HEAD, BUT THAT'S A AGAIN. IT WAS A FOUR STORY TYPE BUILDING. THERE WAS VARIOUS IDEAS ABOUT USERS. I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN COMMERCIAL OF HIGHER THAN THIS.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHERE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. AND SO. THE PINK BUILDING ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING CIVIL TASKS. THEN NEXT TO THE CIVIL TASK BUILDING IS A MIXED USE BUILDING. ADJACENT. TO THE CIVIL TASK BUILDING AND ATTACHED TO IT. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD RIGHT NOW, 10 MINUTES AGO WAS THAT THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. NONE. NEWS TO ME. THE ON THE EAST SIDE OF UM, SOUTHEAST DETROIT. THERE IS A. OTHER MIXED USE BUILDING. IT'S KIND OF MORE OF AN L SHAPED TYPE BUILDING AND YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE. HOW IT RIGHT WORKS. I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF ELEVATOR. SO IN THIS BUILDING. THEIR 52 RESIDENTIAL

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NOBODY WANTED TO SHARE. PART OF IT WAS THAT THE PANDEMIC CAME OKAY, AND NOBODY WANTED TO SHARE . BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO LINGER ON THAT. PEOPLE ARE WARY OF THAT , AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE HOUSEHOLDS WITH UNRELATED PEOPLE. THEY WANT TO BE. NOW THEIR FAMILIES AND SO AS A AND THAT IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE FELT THAT WAS DRIVING THE DEMAND FOR THE ONE BEDROOMS. SO THE ONE BEDROOM YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, CHANGE YOUR CODE TO ENCOURAGE SMALLER UNITS AS WELL . UM THAT PUSHED US HERE TO MAKE THE MIX. FLIPPED FROM AZUL. SO IT IS ALL WHERE WE ARE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. IN A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE UNITS BEING ONE BEDROOMS HERE. WE HAVE MOST OF THE UNITS BEING MORE BEDROOMS , AND THAT'S INTENTIONAL, AND WE THINK IT'S GOING TO FILL A NICHE IN THE MARKET THAT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR. UM WE HAVE 5800 AND 85 SQUARE FOOT OF OFFICE SPACE. THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH OF COURSE, IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE COURTHOUSE. WE THINK THERE'S SOME OBVIOUS RATIONALE FOR THAT. TURN OF THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS JUST THE LANDSCAPE PLANNING CONTEXT. I PUT IT UP HERE. I JUST FELT IT WAS A GOOD THING TO PUT UP. HERE SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SURROUNDINGS BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SLIDE. UM WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LANDSCAPING GOING INTO THIS LITTLE SITE. AND WORD, ESSENTIALLY LANDSCAPING.

THE LANDS, PUTTING IN THE LANDSCAPING BEHIND CIVITAS AND NEVER GOT PUT IN WHEN THE PARKING PARKING LOT NEVER GOT PLAYED. BUT WE'RE ALSO PUTTING IN THE REST OF THE LANDSCAPING ALL AROUND AND INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF OCEAN AND DETROIT. DETROIT IS INTERESTING. DETROIT IS A 33 FT WIDE RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S TINY. THAT'S A VERY SMALL RIGHT AWAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE CAN ONLY HAVE PARKING ON ONE SIDE WE ORIGINALLY UM, HAD SOME IDEAS WITH PUTTING, YOU KNOW, DOING A CHICANE TYPE OF APPROACH DOWN THERE, BUT WE ENDED UP JUST GOING WITH ONE SIDE AND TRYING TO MAKE THE SIDEWALKS AS WIDE AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. STILL PROVIDE PARALLEL PARKING AND STILL PROVIDE, UM, A ONE WAY TRAVEL LINK. SO YOU HAVE WITHIN THAT 33 FT. YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF THINGS. SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES ONE WAY TRAVEL AND PARALLEL PARKING AS WELL. AND UH , ABILITY FOR YOUR GARBAGE TRUCKS TO GET IN AND OUT. SERVICE. JUST FYI. AND THE SMALL SITE. WE'VE GOT 14 SHADE TREES, INCLUDING OLIMBOS POINT. CIENA'S SILVER BUTTONWOOD, JAPANESE BLUEBERRIES. LONGLEY YELLOW WOOD. WE'VE GOT 21 ACCENT TREES AND PALM TREES. BIG SIZE ONES. OKAY I SPELLED YOUR TROPHY ON THERE'S NO ORANGE TROPHY. AND 30 BIGGER, SORRY. ACCENT TREES IN THE PUMP TREES. THOSE ARE SMALLER PALM TREE. ORNAMENTALS BASICALLY 30 PALM TREES ON THE SITE. 299 SHRUBS AND 759. F Y I, TOO. YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE THOSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. UM WAIVER VARIANTS ON THE EAST SIDE. UM WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED THEIR, UM AS CONFEDERATE JASMINE, WHICH IS LIKE GRADS, BASICALLY, GROUNDCOVER THAT GROWS UP THE FENCE. SO YOU GET A GREEN FULL GREEN WALL, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE UP ANY SPACE. SO THAT'S WHY THE CAR OVER. THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN PLAN. HERE'S THE I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH NOW. THE FLOOR PLANS OF EACH BUILDING AND THE UM ELEVATIONS. BUT HERE'S THE GROUND FLOOR. YOU CAN SEE. THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL LOBBY THAT COMES IN THE MIDDLE. UM AND THEN YOU HAVE OFFICE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. 9 1,100,000

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THE ELEVATION BASICALLY FACING CIVITAS. THAT BLANK SECTION IS WHERE, BUT THIS IS THE WEST.

BUILDING. OCEAN AND DETROIT. HERE'S THE ELEVATION FACING TO THE NORTH. BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE PARKING UNDER. THEN YOU GO TO EAST BUILDING ACROSS TRADE AVENUE, AND THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO WHAT WE DID HERE? WE HAD THE FRONT IS BASICALLY THE SAME. IT'S JUST A MIRROR IMAGE, WHICH WE WANTED TO DO. WE THOUGHT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SYMMETRICAL BALANCE THAT WILL LOOK LOOK RIGHT LOOK LIKE IT WAS INTENDED TO BE TO BE LIKE THIS ALL ALONG. AND WE PICKED AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AS YOU CAN SEE THAT. COMPLIMENTARY. TO CIVITAS. IT IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME KIND OF A NEOCLASSICAL, YOU KNOW, VERNACULAR, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA HERE WAS YEAH. UM IT WOULD FIT IN WITHIN A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS PART OF THE TOWN BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE COURTHOUSE. THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE A CHANCE WITH THE NEW CITY HALL. AND THIS IS WHERE WOW. SO WE WANTED TO KIND AND YOU HAVE SEVEN. A SERIOUS LOOKING BUILDING TO BEGIN WITH, BUT WE TRY TO FIT IN WITH THAT. BALLISTIC STAND PLAY ARCHITECT DOMINIQUE GARNIER, WHO DESIGNED IT ALL WHO DESIGNED AS WELL AS WELL AS UH, THIS PROJECT. IS HERE WITH ME IN THE FRONT ROW.

WELL SO THAT'S UM SO IN THIS BUILDING. WE HAVE MORE OFFICE SPACE. NOW WE ACTUALLY NOT SO SURE ABOUT THE ONE IN THE BACK OF DETROIT. OKAY, WE HAVE THE TWO IN, UM IN THE FRONT FACING OCEAN. THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE OFFICE SPACE, BUT I'VE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT THE ONE IN THE BACK. POTENTIALLY COULD BE COULD BE LIKE A FITNESS ROOM EXERCISE CENTER, SOMETHING ACTIVE. WELL FOR THE RESIDENTS, SO RIGHT NOW. PROGRAMMED IT IS OFFICE SPACE. SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO COME ALONG AND RUN. WE'LL SEE. YOU KNOW THAT MAY MAY TURN OUT TO BE YOU KNOW SOMETHING JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO HERE'S THE MIX OF THESE UNITS HERE IN THIS BILL. THAT LOOKS LIKE SO WHAT HAPPENS ON THE SECOND FLOOR? CAN SEE IN THE FIRST FLOOR. THERE'S A DRIVE, I'LL AND PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING THAT COMES OFF OF DETROIT. BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WE BRIDGE OVER THAT, AND THERE'S PRETTY CLEVER DESIGN. THERE'S ONLY MODEL NUMBER. HERE.

IN THE UPPER. FLOOR AND THEN UP ON THE TOP FLOOR. WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT STEPS DOWN THE ROOF OF THE THIRD FLOOR BECOMES AN AMENITY FOR THE RESIDENTS, SO THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE SPOT. AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN. THERE'S A ROOF TERRACE SO PEOPLE CAN GET SOCIALIZED UP THERE AND GET A GLIMPSE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH OF US OF THE THINGS HE RIVER. THERE'S THE EAST BUILDING ELEVATION. OR THE EAST BUILDING. THIS IS THE. TROY OUR ELEVATION YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CARS DRIVE THROUGH. LOTS OF BALCONIES. EVERYBODY HAS A BALCONY. UM HERE'S THE NORTH ELEVATION. SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM DETROIT. KILLING. WINGS THAT YOU SEE THE SIDE OF THE WIND. YOUR AND THEN HERE'S THE EAST ELEVATION. THE PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING. HERE'S ELEVATION OF BUILDING THIS IS IT DOESN'T SHOW

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WE WILL REQUIRE 17. PARKING SPACES THAT TIME AND YOU DO THAT FOR EACH ONE OF THESE AND YOU COME OUT AND YOU TAKE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE. AND THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY SPACE HAVE TO PROVIDE, SO WE'RE PROVIDING 89. AND. TECHNICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ONE R 90. BUT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 90 AS A TIME WHEN THERE'S REALLY NO NO BIG ISSUE. SO HAVE TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THERE WAS ALSO A STUDY AND I THINK YOU REFERENCED IT AND I'LL MENTION THIS TO ITS IN YOUR BACKUP. THAT WE DID IT AS USUAL. AND IT IS DUAL. WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND COUNTED. BECAUSE THIS IS I THINK IT'S LIKE IT'S SO MANY RESPECTS. I MEAN, IT'S THE BEST COP FOR THIS HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE MARKET. IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHO LIVES THERE HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE LIVE THEIR HOW THEY HOW THEY THEY PARK AND SO WE DID A STUDY AND WE WENT OUT TO AZUL AND FOR LIKE, WEEKS WE COUNTED LIKE PARLIAMENT. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR EYESIGHT SPACES WERE FILLED UP? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE COVER SPACES WERE, UM, COVERED WERE TAKEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE LOT THAT WE BUILT ON THE OLD RIGHT AWAY AT FIRST. THAT WAS ON THE WEST SIDE OF ALBANY. WE COUNTED HOW MANY WERE ON DIXIE ON STREET . HOW MANY ON ALBANY ANSARI AND HOW MANY AND JOHN JEFFERSON AND ST AND IT TURNS OUT. THAT THE

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IT'S A GOOD THING AND WE'RE PROVIDING. WE'RE SOLVING THE 20 SOME YEAR. PROBLEM OF NO NO PAY PARKING FOR SEVEN. SO WE DID WE NEGOTIATED AND AGREED AGREEMENTS WITH CIVITAS. OKAY UM, THEIR

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THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IT'S NEVER AT NIGHT, RIGHT? NEVER NIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT, SO THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE THE TIGHTEST AMOUNT OF PARKING. IN THEORY, ACCORDING TO THE MODEL WANTS EVERYBODY IS IN TOWN, AND WE WERE FIGHTING FOR SPOTS FOR GREAT. IT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE 73 PARKING SPACES ON THE STREET JUST IN THESE TWO BLOCKS THAT I MEAN THAT'S LIKE EXCESS OVERFLOW PARKING. YEAH I HEAR YOU. I JUST I JUST IT'S GOOD. IT'S A GOOD COUNSEL PROBLEM THERE. AND YOU KNOW I LOVE IT. I LOVE THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE THERE. JUST WE JUST HAD THIS PROBLEM KEEPS COMING UP, AND THEY'RE JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW SOLUTION AND WE JUST KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE THINGS. THAT'S MY LITTLE APPRECIATE. NO. I GOT SOMETHING. NEXT TO ME YOUR LAST. NEW EURO IS FIRST IN YOUR MIND COME ANYWAY. HI I WAS LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING AND I'M LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS THAT I HAD INCLUDED IN MY PACKET. AND I JUST NEEDED ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS NEEDED TO INTERPRET. YEAH, I THINK I GOT THE LITTLE DOTTED THINGS ARE AND ACROSS ATTACHED THINGS AND THE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN SEE IT. NO, HE CAN BLOW IT UP. THAT'S ACTUALLY I CAN BLOW IT UP IN MIND. AND YOU ARE INCREASING THE WIDTH OF SIDEWALK. IS THAT CORRECT? I AM YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH. NOTION.

YEAH, BUT BUT I'M UM WE'RE JUST DOING THE BEST WE CAN. I THINK IT RANGE LIKE 4 TO 6. ON WE'RE PUTTING ON BOTH SIDES. WE COULD HAVE MADE IT A WIDER SIDEWALK AND PUT IT ONLY ON ONE SIDE. BUT WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT. THAT'S THE ONE AND I'VE GOT ALL THESE BLUE MINE UP AND I HAVE ALL THESE LITTLE NOW, DIRECTLY OUTSIDE THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS THAT GROUND COVER.

THAT THAT PART. SIDEWALK SIDEWALK, AND THEN THERE'S GREEN IN BETWEEN. SIDEWALK IN THE PARKING PLACES. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS EXISTING ALL THE WAY. AND THEN THAT'S CIRCULAR THING.

YEAH. GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK. OKAY SEE YOU OUTSIDE WALK RIGHT? BLOW IT UP. ALRIGHT, SO. THE D R . THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ROYAL POINT SIENNA, THE P D MOTORCAR PUS, OKAY? THE LET'S SEE HERE.

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WITH THE INITIALS THAT'S ALL. YEAH WE HAVE WHAT THEY CALL OLD MAN PALMS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. THEY'RE LIKE, REALLY FAT TRUNK THINGS WITH LIKE LITTLE, NOT THAT BIG OF FRONDS ON THEM THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY TO BOTH OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY MARKET INSISTS IT'S GOING TO BE THE COOLEST THING EVER. SO I TOOK HIS WORD. YOU ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT IT, OKAY? I WAS IN MY CHOICE, BUT HE HE SAID, DON'T DO IT. YOU'RE GONNA LOVE IT. I GOT YOU. OKAY. THE LANDSCAPING IN FRONT WAS ONE THING. UM I SUPPOSE. GIVEN THE EMPHASIS ON THE PARKING. I SHOULD GIVE YOU A COMMENT ON THE PARKING UM WE EAT DOWNTOWN QUITE A BIT. WE DO NOT LIVE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO FIND A SPACE SOMEWHERE. DOWNTOWN. AH! THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING SOMEWHERE. AH! AND SO THE 73 SPACES THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND AT NIGHT. I ALWAYS MANAGED TO FIND ONE. SOMEWHERE. THE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE WITH REGRET TO PARKING IS SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT WE'VE GOT I WAS GOING OVER THE OLD ROAST. THIS IS WAY OFF THE TOPIC. GONE OVER THE OLD ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. AND I NOTICED THAT IT WAS MORNING. WHERE SAILORS RETURN IS NOT OPEN. AH! AND ON MY RIGHT HAND SIDE NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THERE WAS A BETTY, OF COURSE, JUST PARKED ONE RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER. WITH SAILORS RETURNED NOT BEING OPEN. NO EXCUSE. WHY ARE THEY? WHAT? WHAT? PEOPLE ARE PARKING THINGS SOMEWHERE IN TOWN JUST FOR A FUTURE PARKING REFERENCE. THEY'RE USING ALL THE SPACES. WHAT PARKING VANDALS. YEAH, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. I ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M DRIVING BY ANYONE OF MYSELF. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? THEY'RE NOT DRINKING IT. THEY THEN NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, SO. JOE DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T GET PERSONAL HERE. WHY YOU DO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF STAFF FOR SAILORS RETURN PARKS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO THAT'S THE OFFICE STAFF PARKING. THEY'RE GETTING. YEAH SO SOME OF THE SERVICES FOR THE BOATS OUT THERE LIKE I'LL SEE SOME OF THE DIVERS THAT CLEAN THE BOTTOMS AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO HIS SOUL, AND LIKE I DRIVE A 25 104 BECAUSE THAT THAT DOES IMPACT AZUL AND THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST SEEM TO FILL UP THESE ODD LITTLE SPACES AND I WOULDN'T EVEN THOUGHT WHATEVER BEEN FILLED AT THAT TIME OF DAY. THINGS A LOT COMMENTS. I, THE PARKING UM. I THINK WE OVERBUILD PARKING GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I LIVE NEXT TO THE PUBLIC. AH! I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SPACES THEY HAVE. BUT IF THEY ACTUALLY FILL. 35% OF THE SPACES THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED TO BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER. I WOULD BE ASTOUNDED WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE TO SOMEBODY. UM I THINK WE REALLY OVERBUILT. TIMES OF WORKING.

OKAY? IS ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? THANK YOU CHERRIES TO CLEAR UP THE VIA ISSUE. THERE IS A PROVISION THAT VIA SHOULD BE PROVIDED IN AT CERTAIN INSTANCES. AND THE CODE PROVISIONS AT 3.1038 E. DOES REQUIRE A VALUE OF SIX BY 10 FT . SIX FT WIDE 10 FT HIGH IN INSTANCES WHERE THE PROPERTY OR THE BUILDING FRONTS BOTH A RIDE OF WAY IN THE FRONT AND THE REAR . AND IN THIS CASE, OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T FRONT A RIGHT AWAY IN THE REAR. SO UH, VIA IS NOT REQUIRED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO STAFF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. SEEN THEM. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. FOR DISCUSSIONS SO THAT YOU CAN GET PUBLIC COMMENT TO ALL THAT. SECOND, ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT. ROBIN COTTON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO PARKING, BUT THERE'S A

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THIS HAS BEEN BUILT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT IT WOULD BE 80 TO 120% OF THE M E. FOR MARTIN COUNTY IF WE ACCEPT THAT THE M E IS $61,133 THE MEETING INCOME THAT'S ACCEPTED AT 80% IS $48,906.40. THERE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO DISCUSSION AS TO HOW THAT WILL BE MANAGED, AND IF THAT'S BEING BUILT AS A SELLING FEATURE FOR THIS PROJECT, I FEEL THAT'S PART OF YOUR DELIBERATION AND DISCUSSION. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THAT, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING, THERE'S A DENSITY QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CHANGES FROM C P U D R P U D AND U P U D HOWEVER, YOU HAVE 44 UNITS BEING COUNTED AT 440.5, SO A TOTAL OF 22 UNITS AND EIGHT UNITS OF THE TWO BEDROOMS AT 20.75 FOR SIX UNITS , SO THERE'S 52 UNITS ON 1.6 ACRES, NOT 28 THAT ARE PART OF THE CALCULATION. SO FULL DISCLOSURE TO THOSE IN THE PUBLIC. I THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. THAT WHILE THERE ARE UNITS, YOUR CALCULATION IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS NORMALLY BEING ACCEPTED.

AND THEN FINALLY, WITH REGARDS TO THE. THE PARKING SITUATION. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE MONTEREY MEDICAL CLINIC AND WHAT WAS ALLOWED TO BE MANDATED TO BE OFFSITE AND MONETARY MEDICAL CLINIC CAME BACK AND SAID THAT WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE IT. SO I CAUTION YOU WITH FULL OF CAUTION AND ABUNDANCE, SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION. WHERE AN ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, AND THE APPLICANT COMES BACK TO BASICALLY REQUEST THAT PARKING BE MITIGATED. THANK YOU. YOU SEE THAT? I'VE GOT A QUESTION. FOR ONE MINUTE. OR PUBLIC CLIMATE. AH! CHIP HAZARD.

CHIP HAZARD. I LIVE OVER 57 SOUTHEAST, SEMINAL. THIS IS A RENTAL BUILDING CORRECT. OUR PETS PERMITTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. OUR PETS PERMITTED IN THIS BUILDING . WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE TAKE YOUR COMMENT. OKAY WELL, I JUST ASK THE QUESTION. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT IF PETS ARE PERMITTED IN THIS BUILDING, I WONDER IF THERE'S A DESIGNATED PET WALKING AREA BECAUSE HONESTLY LIVING IN THIS TOWN, THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT I SEE IN MY OPINION WITH PEOPLE AND DOG WASTE. WASTE AND A LOT OF AREAS DOWNTOWN. IT'S KIND OF DISGUSTING. AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU GONNA HANDLE ANOTHER. 50 OR 100 PEOPLE. POSSIBLY WORKING DOGS DOWN THERE AND ANOTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT . IS THAT A DUMPSTER AREA THAT I RECALL SEEING IN THE WOULD BE THE NORTH? WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. IF SO, I WAS WONDERING HOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED THAT GOING TO BE OPEN DUMPSTERS GATED COVERED. JUST THINK. TURNED ABOUT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. BRUCE LETTER AWAY. I AM NOT BRUCE LARAWAY LIVING 57 SEMINAR. AND. I DON'T LIKE THE BUILDING AT ALL. TOO BIG. AND THERE WAS A BIG THING ABOUT TEACHER DETROIT. AND PARK IN DETROIT CARS GOING TO PARK UNDER YOUR YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN. THERE IS TWO PARKING PLACES ON DETROIT. NOT LIKE YOU GOT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER THING IS YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL. SPACE. ON THE LOWER FLOOR THERE. IS THERE GOING TO BE RESTAURANT? I THINK RESTAURANTS SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE BUILDING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE NEXT DOOR. THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE TO GO. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO EAT OUT THERE. YOU HAVE TO PARK OUT THERE. YOU HAVE TO FIND A PLACE OF AND IT'S ALREADY BECOMING A MESS THERE. IN THAT AREA. AND THIS WILL JUST HAD. TO THANK YOU. MARK CORRECTO. MARK BREAKFAST, CHECKERED PAST UH, TWO. OH, EIGHT. SOUTHEAST OSCEOLA. THANKS. I APPRECIATE THAT. OH, PART OF IT TO NORTH. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ONE

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TO WHAT YOU KNOW. I DISAGREE WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT. I MAKE $2000 A MONTH BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING NARROWS AZUL AND I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS. SO YOU KNOW I'M ALL FOR IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU AND I LIVE. ON OSCEOLA, SO I LIVE RIGHT IN WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY'RE THAT PARKING IS A PROBLEM. YES. SOME SOMETIMES WIDE OPEN ANYTHING GOING ON IN THE WEEKEND? THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BOOKED AND THESE ARE APARTMENTS. THESE ARE APARTMENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE IN AS THEIR HOME RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WANT THEM TO WORK DOWNTOWN, WHERE IS THEIR CAR GOING TO GO? WE KEEP SAYING, EVERYBODY UBER'S THEY DO NOT UBER AND WE KEEP SAYING NOBODY'S GONNA NEED A CAR. WELL, THEY MIGHT NOT NEED TO. BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS A CAR IN MARTIN COUNTY. YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE. IF YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ONE. YOU MAY NOT USE IT. I WALK ALL THE TIME, BUT I STILL HAVE ONE. SO WHERE ARE THOSE CARS GOING TO GO ON THE MIXED PARKING SCENARIO? I'M JUST SAYING THAT ISN'T GOING TO WORK THERE. THAT PROJECT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO FAIL BECAUSE OF PARKING, AND THAT'S REALLY I THINK THE COMMISSION'S FAULT AND IT'S THE FAULT OF THE CITY FOR NOT PROVIDING FOR PARKING AND WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT. BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD PROJECT, BUT IT ISN'T GONNA WORK AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE UNHAPPY BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE PARKED. THE OTHER THING. I MENTIONED JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. DETROIT IS HEADING WHATEVER THAT IS SOUTH THAT'S DANGEROUS. COMING OUT ON EAST OCEAN THAT NEEDS TO GO THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS COMING OUT. AND FURTHERMORE, YOU'RE DIRECTING TRAFFIC AROUND ON US YOLA, WHICH IS A MORE RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THEN BRINGING IT UP DETROIT, WHICH IS A PROBLEM SO THAT TRAFFIC NEEDS TO BE REDIRECTED.

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GET OUT ON EAST OCEAN. WHEN YOU PUT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THAT MANY BUILDINGS, YOU CAN'T GET OUT THERE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IS THE REROUTING OF THE TRAFFIC ON DETROIT, AND I'M DONE. JOE FORD. JOE FORD. I OWN THE UNIT 305 AT 11 CIVITAS. MY UNIT. SORRY CAN YOU SPEAK FURTHER INTO THE MARKET? I OWN THE UNIT AT 305, WHICH IS ON THE THIRD FLOOR. ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IT'S FACES THE COURTHOUSE HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS ORIGINALLY WHEN I BOUGHT INTO THE CONCEPT THAT WAS GONNA BE THREE SEPARATE BUILDINGS, AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SPACE BETWEEN THEM. AND SO NOW THE NEW PLAN IS THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US TO REMOVE THE OVERHANG ATTACHED TO AN OLD 16 YEAR OLD GROUP CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT RIGHTS I HAVE SECOND CONCERN I HAVE IS ORIGINALLY THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PARKING GARAGE IN THE BACK. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THEY HAD SAID THAT THE FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAD TO HAVE DEDICATED PARKING. IT'S NO LONGER DEDICATED. AND LASTLY , WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE PARK, AND THEY HAVE IT'S A LOT OF TANDEM PARKING. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TANDEM PARKING WORKS IN SITUATION LIKE THAT.

YOU HAVE ALL THESE ONE BEDROOM UNITS. I MEAN, HOW IS IT GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING ANYWAY, THAT'S MY CONCERN. I AM ON THE BOARD TO BUT I'M REPRESENTING MY OPINIONS. AH! JACKIE MCNEIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I OWN THE ON THE SECOND FLOOR SUITE 202 IN THIS EVITA'S BUILDING SORRY FOR THE MISPRONUNCIATION ALL THESE YEARS SINCE 2000 AND SEVEN AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MR GLEN WEBBER, WHO ALSO OWNS SUITE 201 . THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE ROOF. WE HAVE 11 UNIT OWNERS AND ONE ROOF. THE COST OF ROOF REPLACEMENT, ESPECIALLY A PREMIUM, PREMATURE ONE IS A MAJOR CONCERN. WE RECENTLY REDID OUR FLAT ROOF AND ASSESSED OUR OWNERS FOR IT. WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING WILL BE CONSTRUCTED DIRECTLY ALONGSIDE OUR BUILDING. THE CONSTRUCTION WILL REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF THE FACADE THAT OVERHANGS THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE DEVELOPER UNDERSTANDABLY HAS YET TO INCUR THE COST TO PREPARE THE ACTUAL BUILDING PLANS. HE HAS AGREED TO PAY THE COST OF THE ROOF REMOVAL FROM OUR BUILDING AND TO PAY FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN ENGINEERING REVIEW. HIS

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PARKING REMAINS A CONCERN. WE ARE GETTING 23 SPOTS. SIX OF THOSE ARE DESIGNATED FOR THE RESIDENCES ON THE THIRD FLOOR. THE REMAINING TWO FLOORS HAVE 17 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK. CHAIRMAN YES, DISTRICT CLARIFICATION ARE WE HERE TODAY IS THE BOARD'S JOB TO PASS IT OR IS IT A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS YEAR? WE ARE RECOMMENDING HERE. THE CITY COMMISSION COMMISSION. THANK YOU. YES. UM YOU KNOW? I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, COULD YOU COULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE THAT WE HEARD? CAN YOU ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUE ONE MORE TIME. COULD YOU ADDRESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A P YOU THAT THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. ASSERT TRAFFIC PATH.

I'LL START WITH AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THEM. SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS WHAT IF THE COMMERCIAL SPACES RESTAURANT AND NOW IT'S SMART THIS COMMERCIAL AND WE COULD CONDITION THE PEUT WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE P U D IF A RESTAURANT WHERE TO LOCATE THE COMMERCIAL SPACES AND SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW A USE, SUCH AS A RESTAURANT. UM THE CONDITION THAT. THE 23 PARKING SPACES GETS BUILT. UM AS WITH THE ORIGINAL CIVITAS PROPOSAL IS PART OF IT IS ALREADY A CONDITION OF THE EU DE I CAN'T RECALL. AH SITUATION WITH THE ROOF. I THINK THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDED SOME INITIAL CONCEPT DRAWINGS FOR THAT, UM THE. THE OTHER PARTY TO THE ROOF CONSTRUCTION WILL I THINK HAS BEEN ALREADY NOTED, HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ENGINEER , THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT ENGINEER. LOOK AT THAT. UM, IT WOULD ALSO ANY CONSTRUCTION ON THERE WOULD NEED TO MEET FLORIDA BUILDING CODE WHEN IT CAME INTO THE CITY, SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE ALSO SOME OVERSIGHT TO THAT, AS IT WAS BUILT AND PLANNED. UM. THE PARKING. UM AS I SAID, I THINK BEFORE IT'S A FLEXIBLE ARRANGEMENT DOWNTOWN. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ALLOCATE, UM PARKING STALLS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TOO. MANY PARTICULARLY USE WE DO OVERHAUL OVERALL IN IN THE CITY. HAVE. TO SUBSCRIBE TO A SHARED PUBLIC AREA PARKING SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT UNTIL THE CITY GETS, UM, MAYBE A DEDICATED PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE. THEN THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE CASE. WE ALREADY DO THAT. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU COME DOWNTOWN WHEN YOU VISIT DOWNTOWN YOU MIGHT PARK WANTS, BUT HE MAY VISIT MORE THAN ONE OR TWO OR THREE LOCATIONS, PARKING WANTS. AND THAT'S THE IDEA. UM. TRAFFIC FLOW AROUND, UM, AND WHERE IT ENTERS AN EXIT . IF DETROIT AND DENVER ARE SPECIFICALLY PLANNED TO CREATE A ALMOST LIKE A ONE WHITE PAIR AS THEY CALL IT, SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO GET EITHER WAY FROM OCEAN. TO THE BACK HOLE, DIFFERENT UM WHAT ELSE DID WE HAVE? HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT UNDERSTAND OR REALIZE THAT THE STATE RESTRICTS US FROM MANDATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE APPLICANT MAY MAKE SUGGESTIONS TO DO THAT. AND. SO HAVE YOU MADE THAT SUGGESTION ANYWHERE IN YOUR MATERIAL? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING OKAY? WAS IT ANYWHERE IN STAFFS MATERIAL? NO I DON'T RECALL THAT. I DIDN'T SEE IT EITHER.

INSURERS THAT THE MICROPHONE. PORTABILITY IS A RELATIVE THING. THE REALITY HERE IS THAT BECAUSE

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ISN'T THAT OVERHANG ROOF? ON THE OTHER PROPERTY IN EFFECT. WELL. THE. P U D AGREEMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN CITY TO ONE. INCLUDED A PARKING LOT THAT WOULD BE ON THE GRASS AREA. NEXT DOOR TATTOO CAME IN AND 2000 AND FIVE AND SAID BEFORE THEY BUILD THAT GRASS UNIT. CAN WE BUILD A SECOND BUILDING HERE? WE WANT TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE BEHIND IT. AND SO THAT P U D WAS AMENDED TO CREATE A SECOND ONE THAT HAD A PARKING GARAGE SHARED, BUT IT BECAUSE OF 2000 AND SEVEN ECONOMY AND THE THINGS IT IT FELL APART. THE BANK. WHO ENDED UP OWNING THAT PROPERTY. UM. HEADED FOR SALE AND PART OF THE HISTORY THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED, BUT NOBODY CAME INTO THE CITY AND AMENDED THE UNDERLYING P U. D WHICH REQUIRED A UNITY OF TITLE WHICH REQUIRED THE PROPERTIES TO BE TIED TO EACH OTHER, WHICH WHEN THEY WENT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND DREW THE LINE NEXT TO THE BUILDING ON THE THREE STORY BUILDING. THEY CREATED THE OVERHANG. AND CREATED THE PARCEL . IT WOULD BE LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WALKED INTO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S HOUSE OR PROPERTY, FACES, OFFICE AND SUBDIVIDED. YOU'RE YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY AND CUT YOUR FRONT PORCH OFF. MADE THAT PARCEL NUMBER TWO. WELL YOUR HOUSE WAS ALREADY BUILT. THE CITY OF STEWART ALREADY CEO DID IT AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE. AS A SECONDARY PARCELS THAT THAT SECONDARY NATURE OF THAT PARCEL. IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE ANYWHERE WITH ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDERS, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT MR HERNANDEZ IS INCORPORATING THEM TOGETHER AND HAVING AT ONE P U D TO RESOLVE THAT SO THERE REALLY ISN'T AN OVERHANG ANYMORE, AND IT DOESN'T VIOLATE THAT SETBACK ISSUE. THANK YOU, MIKE. I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. DISCUSSION MR CHAIR. I HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION ON A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ON DENSITY. SO THE STUDY. UH HAS A DENSITY BONUS, SO TO SPEAK. I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY CALL IT THAT, BUT WITH WE'RE ENCOURAGING SMALLER UNITS WITH THE U, P U D ANYTHING UNDER 900 SQUARE FEET. FOR ONE BEDROOM

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IT WAS A GOOD RESTAURANT. IT WAS THERE. THERE WAS FISH AND PIG BEFORE THAT, WHICH I LIKED AS WELL. SO, UM WE'RE COOL WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE FOR US, IT CREATES A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER ISSUES. IT'S NOISE. VENTILATION YOU KNOW , I DON'T WANT IT. WE JUST WANT WE ONLY WANT TRASH ONLY ONE OFFICE IN OUR BUILDING AND I'M FINE. THAT IT CAN ONLY BE OFFICE AND I THINK I THINK THE PARKING WILL PROGRESSION ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, LIMITS YOU TO THAT. SO IF IT NEEDS FURTHER TWEAKING THAN THEN THAT'S FINE CHANGE. I HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND YOU KNOW, DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ANYTHING ELSE. WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE WITH MIXED USE OVER THE YEARS THAT I KNOW WHAT'S COMPATIBLE THE SINGLE MOST COMPATIBLE UM LAND USES ARE RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE. THEY'RE PERFECT BECAUSE THE PARKING IS OPPOSITE AND THERE'S NO IT'S QUITE QUIET, AND IT'S MM. NO SMELL NO NOISE. AND AS FAR AS THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING GOES, I MEAN, I IT'S NOT THERE, SO NO IT AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THERE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED LIKE I'M LIKE I THINK THAT WHEN WE BUILD ALL THESE UNITS THAT ARE APPROVED, THE AFFORDABILITY WILL FIX ITSELF. OKAY? KATIE ANYTHINU TALKED ABOUT THAT THIRD OFFICE SPACE IN THE BACK AND POSSIBLY CONVERTING IT TO RECREATIONAL AREA. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED CONVERTING IT TO MORE PARKING SPOTS? WELL I COULDN'T REALLY BECAUSE IT FACES THE STREET. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT YOU WANT WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE PARKING FACING THE STREET, OTHER THAN TWO PARKING IN THE STREET.

WE WANT TO HAVE THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING AND YOU WANT TO HAVE BUILDING ACTIVE USE OF SOME SORT. FACING THE STREET. THAT'S IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT IT IF YOU WANT ME TO PUT MORE PARKING SPACES IN THERE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF DUMPSTER SPACE THAT HAS BEEN REQUIRED ON THIS SITE. I DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO IT. DISCUSSION IT TOOK A SIX MONTH DISCUSSION.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS AGO. IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT ONE SUBJECT. IT'S AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF DUMPSTER SPACE THAT'S BEING REQUIRED BASED ON EPA DATA BASED ON. TONS OF OTHER RESEARCH IN OTHER COMMUNITIES BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE, AND AS WELL, YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH DUMPSTER SPACE HERE. IT'S COST US FOUR PARKING SPACES ALONE. SO IF YOU WANT MORE PARKING SPACES SCALE THAT BACK. NO, IT'S OVER. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK

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WE'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THE WEIGHT. I MEAN, ALL OF THIS.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? BE OBJECTIVE 82. YES THERE IS A COMMENT IN THE STAFF REPORT TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE EAST STEWART PLANNING DISTRICT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO. THERE'S A COMMENT THAT SAYS THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS ADDING HOUSING TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE THAT WILL HAVE WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO THOSE WHOSE INCOME IS IN THE MODERATE TO WORKFORCE HOUSING RANGE 80 TO 140% OF THE AM I BUT DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION. YEAH THAT THAT CAME FROM, UM THE AFRICAN ACTUALLY GAVE US INFORMATION THAT HE WOULD PROVIDE HOUSING BETWEEN THAT RANGE 80 TO 1 FORTIES. THAT'S OUR GENERAL ESTIMATE, BUT THE REALITY IS IT PROBABLY IS GOING TO FALL WITHIN THAT RANGE 140. WHAT'S THE MEDIAN INCOME IN MARTIN COUNTY TODAY? IT'S LIKE 61,000 SO 140% OF 61,000. WOULD BE, UH, DOING THE MATH. THE QUICK MATH BE LIKE 80 SOME $1000. YEAH, I WOULD THINK YOU COULD SAFELY SAY THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING LESS THAN 81,000. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO TAKE A VOTE. WHAT. BOARD MEMBER, LUIS

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[4. REDA AGREEMENT WITH NEW URBAN COMMUNITIES:]

PERMISSION BOTH CAMPENNI. COURT MEMBER MAKE HAMSON. BOARD MEMBER. WELCOME TO REMEMBER WILSON. THANK YOU. ATLANTIC POINT. MARINA MAJOR MAJOR URBAN CO. CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL

[5. ATLANTIC POINT MARINA - MAJOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL:]

GOOD EVENING BOARD CHAIRMAN TOM REED'S SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS A MAJOR URBAN CODE. CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL REQUEST IS, UM, PROPERTY OWNED BY JEFF HARDEN. MIDDLE ISLAND MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT LLC. OF THE START WITH THE RESOLUTION. UM AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS, AND THAT STAFF REALIZED THAT THE REVIEW SHOULD ONLY APPLY TO, UM. SPECIFIC POLICIES TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE URBAN CODE, AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE AS I CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION. SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH DIXIE HIGHWAY. NORTH WEST FLAGLER AVENUE WEST OF THE ST LUCIE RIVER. AND NORTHWEST NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND EAST OF THE FCC RAILWAY LINES. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 10.81 ACRES OF WHICH 7.86 ACRES ARE DRY LAND. THE EXISTING LAND USES INDUSTRIAL. POST LAND USE IS MARINE INDUSTRIAL. EXISTING ZONING REMAINS INDUSTRIAL. SO IF

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BUT WHEN WE'RE DONE, IT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED IN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. FATHER'S FRANCES LANGFORD AND RALPH EVAN RUUD. THEY WERE LOCAL HERE. RALPH'S FATHER, OLE INVENTED THE SINGLE CYLINDER OUTBOARD MOTOR IN 19. OH, SEVEN. SO THAT'S A REALLY NEAT PIECE OF HISTORY THAT TIES BACK TO MARTIN COUNTY AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO REALLY DISPLAY WITH OUR PROJECT IN AND SHOW THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. BUT THEY WERE THEY LIVED HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY AND SPENT A LOT OF YEARS HERE, AND RALPH MOVED HIS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. PORTION OF HIS BUSINESS TO MARTIN COUNTY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPERTY WAS COMPOSED OF. AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY DID. AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE LIVED IN MARTIN COUNTY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THEY BASICALLY TOOK OUTBOARD MOTORS, AND THEY TESTED HIM INTO ST LUCIE, AND THEY CONNECTED HIM TO BOATS AND THEY HIRED BOAT PILOTS TO TRY AND DESTROY ALBERT MOTORS. AND THAT'S HOW THEY INVENTED A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ALL THE R AND D WAS DONE HERE IN STUART, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE YEARS, CREATING OUTBOARD MOTORS, WHICH ARE THE STANDARD ON A LOT OF THE BOATS THAT ARE USED HERE IN MARTIN TOWN. AND SO THEY WERE THERE IN 1966. THEY HAD A LOT OF ENGINEERS THERE AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME TESTING ALL OUTBOARD MOTORS SO THEY COULD IMPROVE THEIR TECHNOLOGY. STRATACOM MAIDEN, MARTIN COUNTY WERE BASED HERE. I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 32 YEARS NOW. WE'VE DONE 280 PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OVER $2 BILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION, MOST OF WHICH HAS BEEN DONE SOUTH OF HERE, UM, VERY SUCCESSFUL CLIENT BASE. THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF OUR LOCAL PROJECTS. WE DID GRAND OAKS FOR THE VIENNA IN PALM CITY A FEW YEARS AGO. AH I'VE WORKED AT THE FLORIDIAN SINCE MR CRANE BOUGHT IT FROM THE HIGH ZYNGA FAMILY MANY YEARS AGO BUILT THE GOLF TEACHING CENTER RENOVATED A LOT OF THE FACILITIES, SPA, FITNESS CENTER, CLUBHOUSES AND SEVERAL HOMES. DISTRICT TABLE, WHICH WAS AN OLD SEA COAST BANK BUILDING DOWN IMPORT SALERNO, OWNED BY A LOCAL GENTLEMAN. WE

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LOCATED FROM MIAMI BEACH UP TO CAPE CANAVERAL AND WHAT WE FOUND IS SOME INCREDIBLE STATISTICS.

THE BOAT INDUSTRY IS ABSOLUTELY FLOURISHING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AVERAGE OCCUPANCY AT MARINAS IS OVER 97% DRY RACK BUILDINGS TO STORE CENTER CONSOLE BOATS ARE NON EXISTENT.

THE CAPACITIES ARE FAR. OUTSTRIPPED BY THE DEMAND, AND SO WE SEE A VERY GOOD USE AND A NEED FOR MARTIN COUNTY. THE COUNTY IS IDENTIFIED THIS AS A SITE THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MARINA HERE. UM AND IT JUST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO DEVELOP IT. IN IN CREATE A LARGER MARINA THAN IT CURRENTLY IS TODAY. BUT OVER 1000 JOBS THROUGH CONSTRUCTION. IT'S A VERY BIG PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO CREATE JOBS FOR, UM MARINE TRADES, WHICH WOULD BE DOCK BUILDERS SEAWALL DREDGING. THEN ALL THE UPLAND TRADES WITH THE SITE WORK AND THEN ALL THE EMPLOYMENT AFTER WE'RE OPEN. IT ALIGNS ITSELF WITH THE TRAFFIC ALONG THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DP WE'VE HAD IN PERSON MEETINGS FOR THEM. THE DREDGING ALONG THE OPEN. OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL FOR THIS COMMUNITY. UM ALL SORTS OF TAX REVENUE WHICH ARE PRESENTATION WILL SHARE WITH YOU, UM AND IT REALLY CREATES A UNIQUE OPTION FOR THE CITY OF STEWART. YOU COULD HOST FISHING TOURNAMENTS VENUES. WEDDINGS ALL SORTS OF THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AND IT'S MORE ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT IN IN THE AREA. LOCAL LEGACY.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF TIES BACK TO THE AVENUE ROUTE, FAMILY AND THE LEGACY. AND AGAIN, IT'S THE DRAINAGE AND THE CLEAN MARINA PRINCIPLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO EMPLOY OR STATE OF THE ART. UM FAR, UM, BETTER THAN ANYTHING IN THIS COMMUNITY OR IN THIS TREASURE COAST REGION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FLOATING DOCKS LIKE I MENTIONED THE WHOLE ENTIRE SITE IS GOING TO BE RAISED THREE FT WITH A NEW SEAWALL. IT'S NON GATED OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE OVERNIGHT BOATS HERE AND THAT HAS BEEN ASKED AT THE LPGA MEETING. SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT THERE ARE NO LIVE ABOARDS IS WHAT WE CALL THEM IN. ER. UM PRESENTATION, BUT WE WILL HAVE TRANSIENT DOCKAGE. SO AT THE RESTAURANT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR A WATER TAXI STOP. AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN IN, ENJOY A MEAL OR ENJOY THE MARINA BY BOAT AND THEN BE ABLE TO RETURN BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM IN THEIR VOTES. AND MARINE INDUSTRY HAS ENDORSED US. THIS IS JUST AN EXCERPT FROM THEIR LETTER.

THEY'RE ENCOURAGED BY OUR NUMEROUS ELEMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY WATER TAXI TO ACCOMMODATE FOOT TRAFFIC FROM DOWNTOWN PUBLIC ART ELEMENTS SUCH AS THE LIGHTHOUSE. WHICH WE THINK WILL BECOME A LANDMARK IN THE LOCAL DRAWING AMPLE EVENT SPACE. OUR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE . AS WE STARTED DEMO, WE HAVE A PERMIT WITH THE CITY OF STEWART, WHERE ALMOST COMPLETED WITH THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN FOR A SEAWALL PERMIT. NOW ALL THE SEAWALL WOULD BE THE NEXT ACTIVITY. AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE DREDGING GENERALLY SPEAKING, THIS IS A 2023 PROJECT. IF WE'RE FORTUNATE , AND WE GET THROUGH ALL OF OUR ENTITLEMENTS WILL BE OPEN AT THE END OF 23. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. LIKE TO JUST SIT DOWN NOW AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BUT YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE, UM, SO WE ARE HERE AND WE HAVE TWO THINGS ON THE AGENDA. OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE MINOR FOR THE ART, BUT WE'RE GOING TO JUST THE MAJOR CODE FIRST. AGAIN JUST A LOCATION IN THE CITY OF STORED. I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE IT IS. IS WE ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF MAKES THIS KIND OF UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THIS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, BUT WE'RE IN THE CRS. AND WHY WE HAVE SOME OF

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AND I COULDN'T GET IN THERE AND I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE ONE OF THOSE GUYS DRIVING ONE OF THOSE BOATS BUT COULDN'T GET THAT JOB. LOW. THERE YOU CAN SEE IN THIS OLD MAP WHERE MOST OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE GONE NOW THAT THERE WAS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE HERE. I MEAN, THEY BUILD THINGS THEY TESTED THINGS THEY WOULD LITERALLY TIE BOATS TO THE DOCKS. AND PUT THEM AT FULL THROTTLE AND LEAVE HIM RUNNING UNTIL THEY RAN OUT OF FUEL. SO THERE WAS ALWAYS AN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY SINCE IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED. OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS PROJECT . WE HAVE 105 WET SLIPS. 455 SLIPS INSIDE THE BUILDING UP TO 50 FT. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS OF OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY OF THE AND THE V I P CENTER IN THE POOL FACILITY AND THE PUBLIC ART, WHICH WELL, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE URBAN SERVICE. ARE THEY EVER CODE EXCEPTIONS WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. WE CAN'T DO THE PROJECT THE WAY THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WITHOUT THESE. THESE EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE REQUESTING AND THIS IS THE CODE SECTION. IT GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY. THE GRANDEST THOSE EXCEPTIONS AS WERE NEEDED. AH! SO HERE THEY ARE. THE FIRST ONE. THE USE OF THE MARINA RESTAURANT IN HER BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT USES NOT PERMITTED JEWS IN THE LAND YEARS, MARINA AND YOU CAN HAVE A BOAT BUILDING. WE CAN'T HAVE A MARINA. AS THERE WAS AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A RESTAURANT. UM THE PARKING PROVISION IS KIND OF A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE URBAN C. R A IN THE URBAN CODE BECAUSE IN THE C R A. THERE'S A PROVISION OF ONE SPACE FOR FOUR WE WON SERIES BEFORE PARK ONE SPACE PER VOTE SLEPT IN THE C R A MORE SHOW BECAUSE IT'S FOR LIVER BOARDS, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE LIVE ABOARD. AND SUNSET BAY MARINA HAS LIVER BOARD. ALTHOUGH MANY PART WHAT WOULD THOMAS ALREADY TALKED TO WITH REGARD TO THE LANDSCAPE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ARE ALL THERE ALMOST 100% NATIVE VEGETATION, EXCEPT FOR SOME SPECIMEN. AGAIN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS BECAUSE WE ARE AN INDUSTRIAL MARINA ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE URBAN CODE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT KIND OF BUILDING PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE ELSE IN DOWNTOWN STUART ANYWHERE UNDER THEIR CODE. IT'S A BIG BUILDING. NO DOUBT, UM, GOVERNMENT ANSWERED. ROOF IS, UH , AGAIN AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT GABLES, AND IT DOESN'T WORK ON THAT BUILDING. YOU SEE OUR ARCHITECTURE, THOUGH YOU'LL SEE UNDER WE HAVE VERY INTERESTING ROOF PLANS ON OUR OTHER BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE TRIED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT OLD QUANTITIES STYLE ROOFING THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY. DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT ON THERE ON OUR PROPERTY? UM AGAIN, ARCADIAN PORTION IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL MARINE FACILITY. THE OUTBUILDING PROVISIONS ONLY LOST ONE. SO WE HAVE ONE BUILDING THAT'S ALMOST HISTORICAL. IT'S A VERY COOL OLD BUILDINGS. IT'S GOT DAVE COUNTY PINE. THE ARCHED KIND OF TRUST IS IN IT, AND WE ARE PRESERVING THAT BUILDING UP 100 NORTH PART BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OUTBUILDING. THAT'S RESTAURANT. WE HAVE AN OUTBUILDING THAT IS ART. OUR SHIP'S STORE IN OUR REGARD SALES BUILDING. WE DO HAVE BALCONIES ON ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS. THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE PROVISIONS, EXCEPT FOR THE BIG GIANT BUILDING, WHICH REALLY? AGAIN. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. ARM ANSWERED ROOF. A HIGH BUILDING HEIGHT. WE HAVE A 15 FT MANAGERS. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE AT 60, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE FAR BRIDGE BUILDINGS NEXT DOOR IN UNDER THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE. WE HAVE ALMOST 30. AND WE'RE BASICALLY OVER PARK. ON

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WHERE THE RESTAURANT IS AND DROP OFF AREA. THAT WHICH IS BEEN YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE THERE. HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY THERE'LL BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN HERE AND DOWNTOWN. STUART THAT WE CAN GO BY FOOT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS ONE OF THE BRIDGES, BUT AT THIS POINT WHERE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, IT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT WE ARE HAVING THE WATER TAXI STOPS SO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO LEAVE YOUR DOC RIGHT OUT HERE AND GO ARE LOCKED RIGHT OVER THERE. COUPLE OF OTHER NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ALONG THE WATERWAY. THIS IS A OVERALL VIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COLOR BUT REALLY THE DARK AREAS YOU CAN SEE. THERE IS A LOT OF LANDSCAPE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY A LOT OF LANDSCAPE. ISN'T SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STUFF I WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARTS BUILDINGS. UM THESE THOSE ROOFS REALLY REFLECT THE HISTORY OF THIS. WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY THERE IS SOME OF OUR BALCONIES. AGAIN. DEVELOPER HAS BEEN REALLY VERY COOPERATE. PUSHING AND PUSHING AND PUSHING FOR ARCHITECTURE. I HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF BOAT BUILDINGS ALL OVER FLORIDA AND I HAVE NEVER OPPORTUNITY TO DO ONE LIKE THIS.

IT ALSO SPEAKS LARGE. CITY GOT REQUIRES THIS. ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE ART AND I THINK THE ART IN THIS WORLD OKAY? VERY EXCITED ABOUT. AGAIN JUST FOR THE RECORD. THESE ARE ALL OF THE ALL THE CRB REQUIREMENTS. CHARMING. REQUEST WE FEEL WE'VE MET ALL OF THE, UM I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE GET HERE. MORE ARCHITECTURAL AROUND. THE LEFT IS REALLY TO SHOW YOU THAT WE HAVE OUTDOOR SPACE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIGITAL LORD ON THIS BUILDING, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT UP DIGITAL ART AND MONTHLY BASE BOOK THAT PLAZA THERE. WE HOPE TO HAVE MOVIE NIGHTS. IT'S OUR INSPIRATION FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LATER ON.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BREAK UP THIS BORING PLANNING STOP. WE LISTENED THAT. YEAH, I DO. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE. I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE LIVING FOR. HE MARINE INDUSTRIAL. ORIGINAL MARINE INDUSTRIAL IN THE CODE. I'M SO HAPPY. I'M HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF PROJECT AND NOT RESIDENTIAL. I ALWAYS SEEM TO GET TO DO LATER. IN THE ORIGINAL MARINE INDUSTRIAL. WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT. THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT IN THERE THAT HAD 20% OF THE PROJECT AND RESIDENTIAL WHEN WE TALKED TO STAFF WE THOUGHT THIS IS NOT A YOU KNOW, A REQUIREMENT IS MEANS THAT I HAD TO BRING 20% IN WELL, THE LPGA LOOKED AT A AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE ITSELF THAT REMOVED THE WORDING THAT REQUIRED IT, YOU KNOW, AND JUST PUT INTO A LOUD SO WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY RESIDENTIAL IN HERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN SHOW THAT THIS IS A GREAT LAND. AGAIN SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS AGAIN. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT I ASKED THE CLIENT TODAY ABOUT THAT STORE FLORIDA SIGN ON THERE. THAT IS DEFINITELY GOING ON THE BUILDING. JUDGMENT AND YOU'LL SEE THE VERTICAL ARTISTIC LANDMARK. IN THE UPCOMING ARE UH, MINOR. BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY I DON'T KNOW. HOW MANY HAVE YOU BEEN TO HOPE TOWN AND THIS IS THE LIGHTHOUSE THAT ELBOW CAY WAS OUR INSPIRATION FOR THIS. WE DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY STRONG LANDMARK. I HAVE HAD BOTH LOVE IT OR HATE IT KIND OF COMMENT. WE CERTAINLY HEAR FINE WITH INDUSTRY WITH OUR TRAFFIC. WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL NOW AND INDUSTRIAL FUTURE. AH! DRAINAGE INFORMATION IN THERE BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY GOING UP ON WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, WITH DRAINAGE, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW THAT YEARS AGO DEVELOPMENT THERE WAS NO DRAINAGE. IT WAS GOING FROM THAT SIDE, RIGHT? RIVER RIGHT OVER THERE. AND WITH THIS PROJECT WITH THE CLIENT HAS GONE WELL BEYOND THE ENGINEERS HERE TO

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UM THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND. UH HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION TO SUNSET BAG AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO THAT MARINA. MARINE INDUSTRIES IN THE CITY OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY, HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT INDUSTRIES LIKE AND REMEMBER HERE. WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO MAINTAIN NOW. AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRANSIENT DOCKAGE. YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL I MEAN, FLORIDA NAVIGATION DISTRICT. WE MAINTAIN THIS WATERWAY. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CROSS CANAL TRAFFIC. WILL WILL CAPTURE. I THINK THAT IT WILL HELP TO SOME OF THE LOCAL SPORT FISHERMEN THAT ARE STUCK ON THEIR SIDE OF THE BRIDGE AT SUNSET BAY NOW CAN BE ON OUR SIDE AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A BRIDGE. BUT A LOT OF THE SUNSET BAY MARINA PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY SEASON WITH A STAKE IN THERE. SIX MONTHS, AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING READY TO LEAVE. YOU'LL SEE NOW. A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEGINS. WITH ALLAH BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE MY WHOLE TEAM HERE. I HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE. SKATEPARK ATTACK. OF OUR LAWYER HERE, TOM. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DON'T START WITH ME TRUCK DOWN

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THE KNOWING THAT THE HISTORY THERE, I THINK CREATING A LANDMARK THERE ON THE WATERWAY IS GOING TO BE KIND OF REALLY INTERESTING. ALSO, ALL THE ART ON THE PROPERTY. IS REALLY KIND OF REMARKABLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT. AS WELL AS THE SUSTAINABLE. ELEMENTS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING INTO IT SO. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON STEPPING UP AND REALLY TRYING TO DO A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THESE GUYS. THEY HAVE EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED. TO GO BEYOND THEY HAVE NOT. BACKED OFF OF US. I WANT CONVENIENT AS WELL ON THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I'M A QUESTION ABOUT THE WATER TAX. NOW IS THAT JUST PEOPLE ON THE BOATS CAN USE THE WATER TAXI OR CAN THEY HAVE THE WATER? TAXI THING? WAS IT TIKI? WHATEVER RIGHT NOW THAT YOU CAN GET ON AND YOU CAN GO TO A DIFFERENT PLACES, JUST TALK AND RUN A TAXI AND SO FORTH HOUSE. TIGHT HOUSE TIED HOUSE. IT'S TOUGH TO GET BUT TIED HOUSE USED TO GET OUT ACTUALLY GO DOWN. I THINK THE PIRATE'S COVE IN BACK BUT THERE'S GOTTEN RID OF THAT.

OF IT. HOPEFULLY IT'LL COME TO US. IT'LL GO TOO TIGHT HOUSE AND THEN THE RIAU PROJECT IS COMING . YOU KNOW IN MARTIN COUNTY, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE GOING OVER THERE ALSO. SO YOU CAN BE ABLE HUBBLE YOU CAN GET ON IT RIGHT? YOU CAN GET ON IT RIGHT OUT HERE AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE IT. SOME PEOPLE STAY ON IT LIKE ME, AND THEY NEVER GET OFF. YEAH, IT'S GOT A BAR ON IT. THE SAME ONE? YES THE SAME ONE. IMAGINE THAT I WOULD BE ON HERE. IT'S GOT TO BE ON THAT GUY'S CHRIS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I LIKE THE HISTORICAL ASPECT OF IT. I WASN'T REALLY I DIDN'T KNOW EVAN RUUD WAS FROM THIS AREA. YEAH, JOHNSON. OH YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID? HE TOLD ME MR RAVAN, WHO TOLD ME DIRECTLY THAT IF YOU TURNED THE ENGINE ON AND IT DIDN'T FIRE UP ON THE FIRST TURN, IT WAS A JOHNSON JOHNSON. GOTCHA. THE REVENUE TOLD ME THAO BRING UP THE ISSUE OF THE LIGHTHOUSE. DID YOU SPEAK TO YOU, MICHAEL? WHAT? I'M SHORT, UM THE. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE TOURING THE WHITE HOUSE? WHAT I'M ONLY AN ART PIECE IN OUR PIECE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET UP IN THE TOP OF IT. DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT HIGH? WELL IT HAS TO BE THAT HIGH TO BE IN RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE REST OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW THE TOP OF THAT MANSOUR IS 60 FT. SO WE'RE ONLY 23 FT. ABOVE THAT. IT WILL BE, UH THIS BILL, IT WILL NOT BE AS EFFECTIVE IF IT'S LESS. IT WAS 90. SO IT DID COME DOWN SEVEN FT

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AND YOU KNOW IT REALLY? DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO BEING CONDOS. IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AS CONDOS IT CREATES. YOU KNOW ANOTHER HARD BRIDGE, AND WE'VE GOT ONE OF THOSE, UM YOU KNOW, AS A HOTEL, YOU HAVE THE RAILROAD TRACKS. IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY WELL POSITIONED FOR THAT. THAT KIND OF USE SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE JEFF'S TEAM FINDING THE USE THAT FITS AND PROPOSING A PROJECT.

THAT I THINK HAS, YOU KNOW A PRETTY STRONG, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL VIABILITY TO IT. YOU KNOW, UM THE. THE THOUGHT THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS IS ALSO NICE TO SEE. I THINK, FRANK, YOU KNOW, TOUCHED ON IT, BUT OFTENTIMES YOU SEE, YOU KNOW THE SAME THE SAME APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT IN SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND 6 17 DIFFERENT STATES AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE SAME TOWN HOME PRODUCT THAT WAS BUILT IN SEVEN DIFFERENT CITIES, AND SO YOU KNOW? THE BUILDING WORLD HAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN TO BE SO EFFICIENT THAT IT'S LOST A LOT OF CREATIVITY, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT CREATIVITY COME BACK IN THIS PROJECT. UM YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE LIGHTHOUSE. IT'S I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, WITH THE RELATIVITY TO THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS AND HAVING SOMETHING BREAK IT UP. IF THERE'S ANYWHERE IN STUART, THAT IT FITS. IT'S HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 75 FT BRIDGE. YOU HAVE 120 FT. CELL TOWER DOWN THE ROAD. YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, TALL PRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS YOU'VE GOT A TRAIN BRIDGE THAT'S UP. FOR NOW, MORE OFTEN THAN ITS DOWN. YOU'VE GOT 90 FT TRANSMISSION TOWER LINES COMING ACROSS THE RIVER. SO I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A PLACE. THIS IS THE PLACE FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW THE FOUR STORY HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE CITY OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY'S GOSPEL. I GET THREE CALLS A WEEK FROM PEOPLE SAYING NO, NO, NO. WE CAN TALK TO SOMEONE. GET RID OF THAT RIGHT? I JUST SAY NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH MY TIME. IT'S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE, AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN SO I DON'T SEE THIS, AS YOU KNOW, TRASHING THAT AND I'LL RELY ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS YOU KNOW, TURNS INTO A TROJAN HORSE FOR THAT KIND OF THING. UM. THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW 650 45 FT. LONG BUILDING FACING DIXIE HIGHWAY, AND SO, UM, I HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS REALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, AND SO WHILE I'LL OFFER THE PROJECT, MY FULL SUPPORT. UM I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DONE WITH THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE REALITY IS.

EVERYTHING THAT I'M LOOKING AT THAT I LOVE ABOUT THE PROJECT. FACES THE WATER AND I UNDERSTAND RIGHTFULLY SO. UM. SO YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO SEE AND I GET THE ROOF LINE AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY COOL ELEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO THAT AND AGAIN. I'LL SUPPORT THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE BEFORE THIS GETS TO THE COMMISSION SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT PUT INTO THAT DIXIE HIGHWAY SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I DRIVE PAST THAT PROPERTY EVERY SINGLE DAY, SOMETIMES FIVE OR SIX TIMES A DAY. SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT DIXIE HIGHWAY FRONTAGE IS, YOU KNOW PERSONAL TO ME? UM EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE PROJECT. I MEAN, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN KIND OF PUNCHING AWAY IS THE POOL IN OR OUT IS THAT BULL IS CURRENTLY ON THERE. I WOULD. IF I WAS A BETTING MAN. TELL YOU YOU'LL NEVER SEE THE POOL. YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO LEAVE SOMETHING TO TAKE IT OFF. UM THE GREEN WALLS . I UNDERSTAND. LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE GREEN WALLS ON ON CERTAIN PARTS OF THE BUILDING IS KIND OF TOUCHES ON SOMETHING THAT FRANK HAD MENTIONED EARLIER. I'M ASSUMING THAT WITH THIS APPROVAL COMES THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO STAY IN PLACE. AND SO IF THOSE GREEN WALLS ARE, IN ESSENCE, A CONDITION OF THE

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UM THE WET SPACES, OBVIOUSLY. UNLESS WE HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIVING IN THE DRY SPACES. THE BOAT PEOPLE? YES. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONTROL? YOU KNOW? THAT WAS MEANT TO BE A JOKE. BY THE WAY. THANK YOU, DOC. SOMEBODY SOMEBODY TOOK IT UP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? THE WET SPACES. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU PLAN TO CONTROL THE LIVER BOARD SITUATION? IF THERE ISN'T A CONTRACT, YOU KNOW WHEN THEY COME IN THEIR RENT SPACES, AND THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO LIVE ON THEIR BOATS. THEY DO SUNSET. AND I MIGHT. I'M NOT PRETTY MUCH SURE THAT EVEN OUR BOTTOMLAND OUR BOTTOM GREECE WILL REQUIRE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT. SO WHEN I TAKE MY BOAT AND I DRIVE UP THE RIVER AND I PULL INTO YOUR SWEAT SPACE, AND I STARTED TO GET A BEER IF YOUR BEER WALL AND A HOT DOG UM I CAN'T BELIEVE IT THERE AND I CAN'T GO TO SLEEP ON MY BOAT. I KNOW THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION FOR MY VOTER PEOPLE HERE. YES, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BOOK THERE AND YOU CAN SPEND THE NIGHT ON IT WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT FISHING. FIVE OCLOCK THE NEXT ONE. YOU CAN'T SPEND SIX MONTHS ON YOUR BOAT LIVING THERE AS A TOURIST AND YOUR THIS IS PART OF THE PART OF OUR RENTAL AGREEMENT.

DISAGREEMENT. THAT EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO SIGN. WHEN THEY KEEP ABOUT THEIR THEY SEND AN ANNUAL WAYS. THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE ON THEIR BOATS. BAD THING FOR SCHOOLS, TOO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVING ON BOATS AND HAVE KIDS, THEY DON'T PAY ANY SCHOOL TIME. AND ALL AROUND, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER POOR KID. NIGHT OUT. THE MORNINGS OVER HERE I LIVE IN. I LIVE RIGHT THERE. WHEN THAT HAPPENED. IT WAS TERRIBLE. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. FIVE YEARS AGO, SO I'M STILL WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND IT. A CELL PHONE TOWER THAT LOOKS LIKE A LIGHTHOUSE. I CAN SHOW YOU ONE. IT'S OKAY QUESTIONS FOR MR CLOSET. WHAT I DID HAVE ONE MORE, UM SO WE GOT.

WE'VE GOT THE WEDDING. YEAH ALONG WITH. MY FRIEND DOWN THE END. WHICH SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE ON THE SIGNAGE SIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM DIXIE HIGHWAY WHEN YOU COME INTO TOWN? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THE STUART FLORIDA SIDE STEWART'S ON THE WATERFRONT SIDE. A MARINE ON THE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY ATLANTIC POINT MARINA, OR AT LEAST THAT'S RENDERING SHOW. OKAY THAT'S THE ONE THING WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME. BUT MORE TIME THAN WE PROBABLY NEED TO. ON SIGNAGE FOR THE CITY. I WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO SEE THE WORD STUART, FLORIDA ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. ON THE ON THE DIXIE HIGHWAY SIDE DRIVE INTO TOWN. THEY KNOW WELL WHERE THEY ARE. SPEAK, THAT'S IT. YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STACK STAFF. OH, AND I FORGOT. IT DID TAKE NOTES. SO, UM DOES THE THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE CODE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS. SOMETHING FROM BEING HIGHER THAN 60 FT OR OR LIKE WHAT? WHAT IS THE SO THE COM COM PLAN RELATES TO ESSENTIALLY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND IT SETS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE HIGHER OF FOUR STORIES OR 45 FT. SO IN ESSENCE , YOU COULD HAVE A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. DON'T LET THIS GET OUT TOO FAR. OF 15 STORIES PER 15 FT PER STORY, AND IT WOULD STILL MEET THE COMPLEX. HABITABLE. YES. MM. WHAT WE HAVE IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH CONTROLS THAT AT 45 FT TO THE EVE OF THE RAID. AND A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THEN ALLOWS 15 FT. ABOVE THAT FOR THE REEF STRUCTURE, OR IF IT'S A FLAT ROOF, YOU KNOW. LEFT. BOXES OR THE A C STUFF FOR THE EQUIPMENT ON TOP IN TERMS OF NON HABITABLE SPACE. THERE IS NO SPECIFIC RESTRICTION ON THE HEIGHT OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT TELECOM TOWER AS YOU LOOK AT THE SPIRE ON THE CHURCH. IN TOWN. UR TOWER, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MORE THAN 45.

FT. THE QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO SEE A MOTION. LIKE TO CHECK ALREADY. COMMENTS YEAH, BUT FIRST I WANT TO DO EMOTION AND THEY WILL BRING THEM PROCEDURES , QUESTIONS MOTIONS TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS IT IS, AND WE SAY NO . CAN SOMEBODY COME BACK AND SAY TO ACCEPT THE PLAN WITH WE CAN

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GOTCHA OKAY, SO PETE MADE THE MOTION SECOND. A SECONDARY. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS THEN. OKAY? ROBYN CARTWRIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS. YOU'VE ANSWERED A LOT OF WHAT I HAVE, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'D ASKED THAT YOU DELIBERATE ON OR PASSES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION WHEN THEY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS. LIKE ONE OF YOU HAD MENTIONED. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT LIMIT. IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT HAPPENS, GOING FORWARD IN THE REST OF THE CITY. THE TWO FT SETBACKS ARE CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY, THE SMALLER SIDEWALKS WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PEDESTRIAN BIKE FRIENDLY AS THE SUGGESTION MADE BY THE DEVELOPER WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND. THE ANSWER TO IS HOW MANY SPACES ARE LEAST FOR PEOPLE TO STORE THEIR BOATS THERE VERSUS HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF IT'S NOT A LIVE ABOARD SITUATION. IN THEORY, ALL OF THOSE WET SPACES WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN DAY, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S THE CASE. UM IF IT'S NOT AN EXTENDED, STAY OR LIVE ABOARD ON A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THERE IS A TWO STORY FITNESS STUDIO SOMEWHERE ON THAT PROPERTY. I DO UNDERSTAND THE MOORING ROLLS WITH REGARDS TO VOTING, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. WHAT I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT AND I DID READ THE TRAFFIC REPORT IS ABOUT THE ACCESS BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THAT MARINA IF EVERYTHING IS IN DRY STORAGE, AND YOU HAVE TO GO TO GET YOUR BOAT YOU HAVE TO GO BY HARBOR RIDGE OR THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS OR ANYTHING BEING DONE FOR THAT ROAD WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO BASICALLY EXIT AND GO OUT TO UM I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ROAD STREET. THANK YOU AT THE LIGHT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF YOUR DELIBERATIONS. MARCELA CANDLELIGHT. THANK YOU. FORD MEMBERS MARCELA CAMPBELL, OR, UH , WITH MARCELA GAMBLER AND ASSOCIATES, REPRESENTING THE HARBOR RIDGE. YEAH MASTER ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT DOOR. NEIGHBORS, ROUGHLY ABOUT 133 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. UM AND I MURDERED REPRESENTING THEM. TO SORT OF BE COMMUNICATOR BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING IN THE AREA. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT UM, ATLANTIC POINT HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. OUTREACH THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ASSOCIATION. AS A RESULT OF THE WORK AND THE COMMUNICATION. THIS PROJECT HAS THAT CONTINUOUS BOARDWALK. IT HAS PUBLIC ACCESS AND A HUGE PLAZA, INCREASING THE RESIDENTS, ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE WATERFRONT, NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS OF HEART BRIDGE, BUT EVERYONE IN TOWN. SO, IN ESSENCE, THE H O A BELIEVES THAT THIS IS A GREAT USE AND A GREAT PROJECT. THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON WITH. ATLANTIC POINT BETWEEN NOW AND HOPEFULLY, APPROVAL. UM THERE ARE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ELEMENTS SO IN GENERAL THERE ARE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. AND SO SINCE TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT OF PROJECTS THAT COME WITH BAGGAGE. HAR BRIDGE IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT COME WITH BAGGAGE PROJECTS THAT GET APPROVED WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT DOESN'T GET BUILT THAT THEN AND RESULTING IN ORDINANCES AND AGREEMENT AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND AS A RESULT OF THE MANY ITERATIONS AND AGREEMENT THAT RESULTED WITH HAR BRIDGE THE ENTIRETY OF NORTHWEST FLAGLER AVENUE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND A PUBLIC STREET THROUGH AN ORDINANCE WAS DEEMED TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY. MAINTENANCE OF THE STORM WATER. AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE ROAD ITSELF. EVERYTHING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY WAS DEEMED TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HAR BRIDGE.

AND THE AND THE YACHT CLUB NORTH. ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS NOW OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND THIS IS NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DESIGN ITSELF. UM BUT ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS, HMM. USERS OF THE RESTAURANT AND THE MARINA ARE NOW GOING TO BE USING THIS ROAD THAT ANOTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER OR OWNERS. ARE MANDATED TO MAINTAIN ITS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL VERY QUICKLY. I THINK AS OF TOMORROW REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE CITY TO SEE THAT EITHER THIS ROAD BE TURNED BACK TO THE CITY, AS SHOULD BE WITH PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT MR MARTEL HERE. UM THANK YOU, MARCELLA. OKAY, SO JUST FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE THERE'S A ONE

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OKAY. THANK YOU. CHOW. YOU DIDN'T KNOW FLANAGAN. I'M HERE AS THE PRESIDENT OF STEWART MAIN STREET, AND WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING THIS PRESENTATION A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO, AND WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND MUCH LIKE YOUR BOARD HAS SOME QUESTIONS. WE ASKED A LOT OF THOSE SAME KIND OF QUESTIONS. LIKE WHAT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO HELP. VERY VERY SATISFIED. SO WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. NUMBER OF THINGS IN THERE NOW IF I COULD SWITCH HATS TO THE FISHERMEN SIDE I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE, AND I WOULD ASK STAFF THAT WHAT IS THE IS THERE ANYWHERE ANY OTHER ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW AND 83 FT THING BECAUSE ON INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE THE CHAIR HAD MENTIONED THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ON A BOAT AND COMING UNDER THE 10 CENT BRIDGE AND COMING THERE AND SEEING THE LIGHTHOUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ICONIC, ALSO WITH THE STEWARD I'M ALSO THINKING THIS PICTURE. YOU TAKE THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE. A LOT OF TIMES WE SEE THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS AND WHEN IT GETS IN REALITY, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE IT'S GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THAT. I SAY, STUART, FLORIDA PEOPLE COMING DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO PUT US ON THE MAP EVEN MORE, WHICH MEANS WE CAN FILL A LOT OF THE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON AROUND IN THE AREA, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT PART OF IT. ONLY ONE THING I'LL BE OPPOSED TO. I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE A BRIGHT LINE REPAIR. YEAH I HAVEN'T DONE IT ANYWAY. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS WITH THE STUART MAJOR. THANK YOU, JOE. PUBLIC COMMENT. CHAIR I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE EMOTION FOR THIS ON RECORD, SO YEAH, I THINK IT WAS MADE BY JUST WALKER. BY NICE SECOND. I THINK THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAST ITEM. I BELIEVE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE LAST ITEM FOR THAT. I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO REITERATE IT FOR THE RECORD. GENERATE YOUR MOTION, PLEASE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AND I SECOND MAJOR URBAN CODE. I JUST POINT NUMBER.

WHAT IS IT? 49 TO 00 TO 9 TO 0 TO 0 TO 0 23. 33 2ND IT FOR DISCUSSION. WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING. YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. KATIE. THAT YOU WANT TO SAY. I STILL DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE ON THIS. IF I LOVE THE PROJECTS. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I WANT AND YOU CAN HELP ME GET THERE. OKAY I LOVE THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, EXCEPT FOR THE HEIGHT OF BE, UM SO I WOULD APPROVE THE PROJECT. WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE AT THE 60 FT. OKAY.

DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? CHANGE TO THE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO THE BOARD. YOU COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE BASICALLY, I'LL I'M NOT. I WON'T CHANGE MY MOTION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE WHITE HOUSE JUST LIKE COMIC GOING TO BE INDIVIDUAL THINK IN THE WATER. REALLY DOES STAND AS A PIECE OF ARTWORK. WORTHWHILE SO KAYLEIGH CONVINCED PEOPLE ME NO. IF THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS IS TOO HIGH. I COULD ALREADY SAID MY YOU DON'T CARE. I. IN YOUR ACCOUNT. THAT'S VERY RUDE. MEAN TO RUB ME ALL THE TIME. ANYWAYS, GO AHEAD. IF I HAVE TO CONVINCE MY BELIEF IS IT IS THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE I KNOW ABOUT A FEW YEARS AGO, UM THE FLORIDA OCEANOGRAPHIC CAME IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY, WHICH SHARES THE SAME FOUR STORY HEIGHT LIMIT. AND THAT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL PLATFORM. THAT WAS A VIEWING POINT AND THAT DIDN'T GET PAST SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE DOING THIS FOR ART. IS LESS THAN EDUCATIONAL, SO THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT BEING HIGHER

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BRINGS UP TO 59.5. MAKES ME FEEL WE REALLY DON'T HAVE IF WE THAT ARE HIGHLY LIMITED 60 BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY WANT TO DO YOU JUST THROW IT UP ON TOP OF THE ROOF. AND THEY GET THEMSELVES ANOTHER 15 FT. SO THAT'S KIND OF DISAPPOINTING TO ME. I LIKE THE 60. I MEAN, I SEE IT. I SEE IT AS OUR WORK AND I SEE IT AS A LIGHTHOUSE, AND IT HAS TO BE SEEMS TO LIKE THE PLUS. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN DOT ISN'T THAT WE PLANTED THROWS THROW WITH THEM. VISUAL. PICTURES FROM ONTO THE WALL. THAT'S NOT PAINTED. YOUR ARTWORK IS OKAY? PREDICTED LAUREN TO GO ONTO THE WALL. SO IT SITS THERE. NICK. HOW MANY PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT? AND THAT THAT TOWER THAT THE COUNTY SHOT DOWN FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES LIKE IS THAT A GREAT DECISION BY THE COUNTY OR WAS IT JUST A DECISION MADE OUT OF FEAR BY BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT FEAR BROWER TURNING ITS YOU KNOW ISAAN STEWART LIKE IT HAS FOR DECADES. YOU KNOW? THIS DID ANYTHING TO POKE A HOLE AND SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO BUILD A UNIT ABOVE FOUR STORIES. THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO LIVE IN OR SOMEBODY'S GONNA RUN THEIR OFFICE OUT OF THE TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MEET IN PERSON PERFORM SOME SORT OF COMMERCE. I'LL BE VEHEMENTLY AGAINST IT. LIKE I SAID, THREE PEOPLE, WE CALL MY OFFICE AND THEY SAY, HEY, YOU WANT TO COME UP THERE AND BUILD MID RISE CONDOS. MID RISE APARTMENTS WILL GO TO ST LUCIE COUNTY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.

YOU CAN BE ABLE TO DO IT. BUT THIS THIS FITS. IT'S A LIGHTHOUSE. IT'S NEXT TO A 60 FT BUILDINGS. SO IF YOU MAKE IT, 60 FT. I'M NOT GOING TO SEE IT FROM DIXIE. NOBODY'S GONNA SEE IT FROM DIXON. IT'S NEXT TO A 75 FT TALL BRIDGE. IT'S DOWN THE ROAD. WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF 120 FT CELL. I DON'T THINK IT FITS IN TOM'S NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROJECT IN TOM'S NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROPOSING AN 80 FT. OUT OF PROJECT. VERY, VERY UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT'S BETWEEN. 75 FT BRIDGE RAILROAD TRACK. TRAIN DRAWBRIDGE. AND I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO EVEN BUILD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT'S AN AMENITY. THEY WANT TO DO IT TO MAKE IT A COOL PROJECT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, I COMPLIMENT HIM FOR THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND, JUST LOOK LIKE THE SAME OTHER PROJECT DOWN THE ROAD, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE IT DIFFERENCE IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD IT FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN MAKE THEIR PROJECT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN 10. OTHER MARINAS IN MARTIN COUNTY, THEN PROPS TO WITH HUGE INVESTMENT. KATIE BENEFITS INCLUDE A POSITION IN THE MOTION. IT SHALL NEVER BE AN OCCUPIED STATE. I STAND UP. THINK I CAN SAY I DON'T THINK I CAN STILL SUPPORT IT. I'M NOT WITHDRAWING MY MOTION, BUT I WOULD INCLUDE THAT IF IT MADE YOU FEEL OKAY? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL THE ROADS. BOARD MEMBER LUIS VICE CHAIR, DOOLEY. YES.

REMEMBER, MAKE HAMSON NO. BOARD MEMBER SCHROTH. CHEROKEE AND PENNY. BOARD MEMBER WAKA REMEMBER WILSON. THE MOTION PASSES FIVE TO WITH MAKING SEVEN CAMPENNI VOTE. MOVING ON CHAIRMAN. I'M ALREADY LATE FOR A FAMILY THING THAT I HAVE TO GO TO. SO I'M YOU HAVE A QUORUM. SO BY FRANK TAKING MY LEAVE HERE OKAY? OH, I HAVE NO. YO IT'S MORE OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF DON'T LOTUS UP LIKE THIS, PLEASE, BECAUSE SHE CAN'T PLAN. NO, THAT'S WHAT I

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STAFF. I ALWAYS GOT TO BE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.

HOW ABOUT A VERBAL? BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR MURALS ON THE BUILDINGS AND MENTOR ROOF. AND THE AND THE LIGHTHOUSE. DOES THOSE. OR THE THREE RIGHT, NICK. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR THE DOLLARS COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT'S THE GUYS. SORRY ABOUT THAT BOARD. I THOUGHT I HAD IT A LOADED ON THE STOP ALREADY. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC ART PROPOSAL FOR THE ATLANTIC POINT. MARINA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD, MAY 3RD. SO BASICALLY, THE AFRICAN IS SUBMITTING FOR PARTS TO THEIR PUBLIC ART, AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN. AND THE FIRST PART IS THE RALPH EVINRUDE MEMORIAL.

IT'S LOCATED AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE. UM. AND YOU CAN SEE AS PART OF A PEDESTAL IS BEING IT'S ACTUALLY ON SITE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S BEING WROTE RELOCATED TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE. AND THE TOTAL COST, INCLUDING THE PEDESTAL TO PUT THE AH, MEMORIAL ON IS 75,000. SECOND PART OF THE ART SUBMITTAL IS AN ORIGINAL MEDICAL THEMED ARTWORK. ITS IMAGES OF A SELFISH DOLPHIN AND SNOOK. THESE ARE LARGE AND VERY ENLARGED IMAGES THAT WILL BE ON THE BOAT BARN. VALUED AT 97,500.

HER THIRD. PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS THE ILLUMINATED MANSARD ROOF. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS, UH, MANSARD ROOF. IS. NO TALLER THAN 60. FT BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ART PROPONENT OF IT, AND IT WILL BE LIGHTED. UM AND IN DIFFERENT WAYS. IN THAT VALUE OF THE ROOF WITH LIGHTING IS $250,000. AND THEN FINALLY, THE VERTICAL ARTISTIC LANDMARK AND CREATIVE SHOWCASE. I EITHER LIGHTHOUSE. UM. IS VALUED AT $321,000. THERE'S A PROJECTION COMPONENT THAT WILL BE IN THE LIGHTHOUSE THAT'S VALUED AT $60,000. SO FOR A TOTAL COST BREAKDOWN. THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT IS JUST OVER 22 MILLION. REQUIRED OUR BUDGET WOULD BE 1% OF THAT ARE 223,000 AND CHANGE. AND. THE TOTAL ART COST IS $803,500. THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS

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AND IT WAS DONE QUASIMODO ONCE AGAIN. I'M REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT TONIGHT. PUBLIC ART.

WOULD YOU HAVE TO COME IN THIS CITY STORE FOR HAVING THIS IS A CONDITION. A LOT OF PLACES DO NOT HAVE IT. SO THEY ARE PROPOSALS. THE RELOCATION, SO THE MONUMENT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE BEEN GOING PAST THAT DATE FOREVER. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE. I ACTUALLY GOT ON HERE. THE PLACEMENT OF THE SELFISH DOLPHIN AND SNUG THAT ARE DESIGNED BY THE ARTIST AND THEN THEY'RE BEING PUT ON THREE M FILM TO BE PUT ONTO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, ELIMINATED MANSOUR BRIEFLY ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE MANTA ROOF BECAUSE THESE GUYS JUST WANTED TO MANSON ROOF AND. AND TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE PUBLIC ART OF TALK TO NANCY TERRELL ABOUT THIS WHERE THERE'S A BIG PARKING GARAGE UP IN ORLANDO, AND THEY LITERALLY SHOWCASE DIGITAL ARTIST ONCE A MONTH, DIFFERENT TIMES OF YEAR THERE. THINGS. A GREAT PLACE FOR IT.

AND SO AND OUR PUBLIC ART COST IS ABOUT $800,000 WERE ONLY REQUIRED $223,000. ALL THESE THINGS COMBINED AGAIN, IT'S JUST ALL THINGS. THERE'S THE MONUMENT . IT'S A VERY COOL MONUMENT NEEDS SOME REFURBISHING. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE LANGUISHING FOR THE LONGEST TIME. MR REVENUE DESERVES IT. LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE IMAGES THERE AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT. 45 BY 25 75 BY 30 BY 30 I MEAN, THESE ARE BIG MURALS THAT ARE GONE THERE. THE COLORS YOU SEE, ARE THE PALLETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THERE. LOOK AT THESE CLOSELY COMPUTER, THE DETAILS. ARE JUST IT'S JUST AMAZING AND SO REALISTIC. THEN I DON'T LIKE. RAINBOW MANSOUR, BUT WE DO HAVE THE LIGHTING ON THERE, ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS. VERY EXPENSIVE OUTWARD. THERE'S OUR INSPIRATION FOR THE LIGHTHOUSE. THAT'S THE LIGHTHOUSE. HOPE TOWN , WHICH IS BY THE WAY, OUR SISTER CITY AND IT'S ON ELBOW CAY. UM HERE'S WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE WITH THAT.

VERTICAL MAN MARKETS, A LIGHTHOUSE. VERY COOL. WATER TOWER HAS BECOME A REALLY COOL PEOPLE WANTED TO TEAR DOWN THE WATER TOWER AT ONE TIME. IN A VERY COOL AND I THINK THAT THIS EVENTUALLY WHEN I'M LONG GONE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GREAT. THE LIGHTHOUSE. IN ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED BUILDINGS WITH THE QUANTITY RULES AND ALL OF THAT BECOME PUBLIC ART, AND IT'S REALLY THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE ON THIS SIDE, THEY CAN'T GET ON NOW AND BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROJECT YOUR PLACE. GORRITI. TO THEM. YOU KNOW YOU YOU CONTRACT WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING SMOKING MIRRORS. THEY'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS STUFF. WE HAVE A LOCAL ARTIST THAT'S DOING THIS. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED THAT WE'RE USING A LOCAL ARTISTS ARE DOING SMITH'S OFFICE. WE'RE NOT PUTTING A BUNCH OF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMMENT BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION. MIKE, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DIVIDE THE TWO VOTES BECAUSE I LIKE TO VOTE FOR ALL THE PUBLIC WORK EXCEPT FOR THE LIGHTHOUSE. WHAT A NIGHT OR TWO WOULD BE ENOUGH. I THINK SO IF YOU HAVE THE BOARD DOESN'T MIND. I'LL JUST CUT OUT THE LIGHTHOUSE ON THE FIRST MOTION, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON IT LIKE THAT. WE NEED HAVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER AND STUFF. I THINK THEY WILL.

WHAT'S THE POINT OF EVEN DOING THAT? THE VALUE WITHOUT THE LIGHTHOUSE MEETS THEIR MINIMUM, RIGHT? EVEN WITH IT WITH WITHOUT THE LIGHTHOUSE. IT MEETS THE MINIMUM, BUT WE HAVE TO BOTH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE HIKE. SO I OBJECT TO THE HEIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE. SO IF

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THEY'RE NOT PART OF LIKE THE DIGITAL ART THAT WILL BE PROJECTED. ARE WE ON THE BUILDING? AND YOU SAID IT'S WITH LIKE A THREE M MATERIAL THAT OKAY? MUSEUM IT KIND OF IN ANSWER TO MARCELA, WHICH WERE NOT THE FIRST TO DO. I'M GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. DISREGARD THE SIERRA AND THEN THEN. THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO WORK OUT THAT KIND OF CONCEPTUAL. THAT'S THAT'S NOT CORRECT. IT'S I SEE MANSLAUGHTER CORRECTION ON SO YEAH, BOARD MEMBER OF AUSTIN.

STAFF. SO THE PUBLIC ART IS YOUR DECISION SOLELY THE BOARD'S DECISION. SO YOUR DECISION ON THE PUBLIC ART ITSELF, WHETHER IT'S THREE ITEMS OR INCLUSIVE OF THE LIGHTHOUSE. IS THIS SPORTS DECISION TOLD ME IS THE CITY KIDS CAN PUT THROUGH A NOT APPROVED. LIGHTHOUSE ON THE CYCLONE. CAN'T THEY? THEREFORE IS IT REALLY FINALLY UP TO US ANYWAY? NO. YEAH. RIGHT I MEAN, I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF WIGGLE ROOM THERE ON THE COST OF THIS PROJECT. SO THAT EITHER WAY THERE ARE PEOPLE ABOVE US THAT CAN SETTLE THAT KIND OF ISSUE. SO NOTHING ELSE. VICE CHAIR, DOOLEY. YES. CHAIR CAMPENNI. BOARD MEMBER LUIS.

REMEMBER MAKE HAMSON CLARIFYING . WE'RE JUST VOTING FOR THE ART PIECE EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING WAS LIKE, YES. BOARD MEMBER PAULSON. FOR MEMBERSHIP. AND THE SECOND MOTION I'D LIKE TO BE MADE WAS WOULD BE THE LIGHTHOUSE BY ITSELF. IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THE RULES. REMEMBER LEWIS. BOARD MEMBER SCHROTH. BOARD MEMBER WILSON CHAIR CAMPENNI. VICE CHAIR, DOOLEY. ANY HOPE REMEMBER, MAKE THEM SEN. PASSES FIVE TO CAMPENNI AND MAKE THEM SINCE VOTING. NO. THANK YOU. AND NOW WE HAVE THE READER PROGRAM. I

[7. REDA AGREEMENT WITH MIDDLE ISLAND MANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT, LLC:]

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THIS APPLICANT IS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE PREVIOUS GUIDELINES BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE AMENDMENTS. UM THE PROJECT AS YOU HEARD WILL REPURPOSE EXISTING HISTORIC BUILDING IMPROVED, THE UNDERUTILIZED SITE REMOVED, BLIGHTED CONDITION NOT FROM NOT JUST FROM THE STREET FRONTAGE GROSSO FROM OUR WATERWAY. EXPANDING MARINE INDUSTRY AND CREATE NEW JOBS AND BRING NEW TAXES TO THE C R. A UM THE TAXES CAN BE REINVESTED, REINVESTED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC. SO THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO RECEIVE ITS FIRST CEO IN 2023 NEXT YEAR . UH SO THE RECAPTURED YEARS ARE FROM 2024 2028. UM THE PROJECTION IS THAT THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE TIFF REVENUE OF $1.3 MILLION, BUT WE ONLY HAVE TO SHARE SORRY ABOUT $700,000. BUT WE ONLY HAVE TO SHARE 50% OF THAT. SO UM THE COST SHARING WOULD BE ABOUT $500,000 AND THEN THE CITY. THE CRE WOULD RECEIVE 100% AFTER YEAR. 2028 SO THE TIFF REVENUE WILL CONTINUE TO GO TO THE SIERRA TRUST FUND AFTER 2029. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER OF 4-2022. DISCUSSION MOTION FOR DISCUSSION APPROVAL TO SECOND SECOND. YEAH SO MANY DISCUSSIONS. DISCUSSION ON ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. SAYING NONE. FOR THE ROAD. BOARD MEMBER MAKE HAMSON YES. BOARD MEMBER TRUTH? YES. REMEMBER WILSON. VICE CHAIR . DULY REMEMBER LOUIS CAMPENNI. NEXT AND LAST SPIRITUAL OF OUTDOOR DINING. SO THIS IS AN

[8. EXPANSION OF OUTDOOR DINING]

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THE PLATFORM. YOU NOW UNDER THE SHOOTING OUT IN THE PARKING SPACE. NO WAY. WOULD THAT BE AN ITEM THAT COMES BACK BEFORE THE BOARD WHEN THEY PLAN TO CONSTRUCT YOU KNOW? NO BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THE NEW GUIDELINES ALLOWS THEM WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO PLATFORM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT FOR SPECIFIC UNLESS THEY'RE DOING LIKE CANOPY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT NEEDS TO COME TO THE BOARD. IT'S SIMILAR TO DOWNTOWN WHEN THEY WHEN WE DO DECK DINING, THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES DON'T COME BEFORE THE BOARD. SO I MEAN, I GUESS TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID. I THINK CHRIS SAID IT THAT IN THEORY, THE CODE ALLOWS THEM TO JUST TAKE A PARKING SPOT AND USE IT FOR NO, NO. ONLY IN THE CORE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE LIMITED AMOUNT ONLY 8% 8% AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 18 PARKING SPACES ALLOCATED FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING PROGRAM, THE CORE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE CAN GO UP TO 21 PARKING SPACES. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S LIMITED, BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT OUT HERE, NOT OUTSIDE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE. OUR MOTION OF A 2ND 2ND. I'M SORRY WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT BACKING OFF . NINA MADE THE MOTION AND NICK SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD, PLEASE MARK. MY ONLY COMMENT ON THIS IS THAT IS THAT THEN GOING TO CHANGE THEIR PARKING WORK? YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW? NO NO, I'M JUST SAYING IS IT GOING TO CHANGE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE DOWNTOWN. THAT'S NOT A FACTOR BECAUSE THERE IS NO REQUIRED PARKING, BUT NOW WE TAKE AN INCREASE THEIR SEATING CAPACITY BY THREE TIMES. AND THEY'RE WELL ABOVE WHAT THEIR ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR PARKING , SO I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO THIS AND MAINTAIN AND MAINTAIN THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY BASED ON A SPECIFIC USE WITH A SPECIFIC OCCUPANCY, AND NOW YOU'RE ADDING, YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL SEATS. BUT HERE'S THE THING THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE THERE. THEY'VE ALREADY MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. ANOTHER RESTAURANT OPENED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THIS ZONE, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. CORRECT BUT THEY HAVEN'T. THEY HAVEN'T MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT MANY SEATS. SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANTS IN DOWNTOWN STUART DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE PARKING CORRECT SO I MEAN, SO THE SO THOUGH WE'RE EXPANDING THE DINING WHEN THAT EXPANDING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TWO RESTAURANTS. HOWARD COULD LIMIT THIS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I'M GONNA USE PEPE AND SALLY. LET'S SEE THE PEPPY AND TALLIES CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. YOUR OCCUPANCY WAS BROTHER TERRY'S. LET'S SAY THAT THERE MET THEIR PARKING FOR. 80 SEATS. I'M JUST MAKING IT UP, AND THEN WE SAY TO THEM MAKING AN OUTDOOR DINING AND THEY WANT TO HAVE 20 SEATS OUTSIDE. YOU COULD SAY THAT THEY CAN'T EXPAND THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT THEY HAD. AND AS A RESULT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE 20 OF THE INDOOR SEATS, OUTDOOR SEATS. NOW IT'S A CAT MOUSE GAME. AND

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