WRITING. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE A MERIT. MATHESON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STEWART,
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AND I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. IT'S MONDAY, JUNE 13TH. 2022 AT FOUR PM AT THE CLOCK. I'M LOOKING MHM. BRETT 1 21, SOUTH WEST FLAGLER AVENUE, STUART CITY HALL. IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. MADAM CLERK. WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYOR MATHESON HERE, MCDONALD! COMMISSIONER BRUNER, YOU COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE, MR MEYER. BEFORE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE RISE WITH ME AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. UP FIRST TONIGHT. WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF AN ARTS MOMENT. I MISS ALESSANDRO. ENDS ALONE. AND WHEN YOU COME UP, WILL YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. MR. I'M SORRY, DOCTOR. DR. ALEX IS MUCH EASIER. I A THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M ALEX AND SALONEN, THE PRESIDENT OF THE JUSTIN CAMPUS, INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE, AND I'LL BE SEEING IN THE AREA CALLED ROTARY TOAST. IF I SAY THAT MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. BUT IF I SAY THE TOREADOR SONG YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE AT THE MOMENT I STARTED SEEING IT, SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME YOU CAN STAND. NEGLECTED. TAKE THE MICROPHONE.OKAY? LOVELY MICRO. YEAH, RIGHT.
YEAH. MHM. MM HMM . OH YES, YES. YEAH.
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YES. OKAY.HMM. HMM. MHM. OH, OKAY. YOU. SO IF YOU BROUGHT UP HERE NOW, ARE YOU TEACHING OPERA OF THE COLLEGE NOW? YEAH I AM NOT QUALIFIED BECAUSE I NEVER TOOK COLLEGE LIKE WOW. MICHAEL.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD MIKE MARTEL SING ALONG WITH OTHER EVER NOT ONCE, BUT IT'S WORTH. IT'S LIKE WHEN WE WERE KIDS. THE CARTOONS ALWAYS USED BACKGROUND MUSIC. OH, OH, NO. OH, GOD. OKAY.
SIX MONTHS TO GET A BETTER PERSON. WE'LL ALL RECAP AFTER THAT AMAZING ARTS MOMENT. AH! UP
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NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION. FOR JUNETEENTH FREEDOM DAY. AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO ACES OF EAST STEWART. IN ALASKA. MR MARTEL WILL PLEASE READ THE PROCLAMATION. PROCLAMATION JUNETEENTH FREEDOM DAY, JUNE 19TH 2022. WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS THE OLDEST KNOWN CELEBRATION COMMEMORATING THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE EMANCIPATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN SLAVES AND CELEBRATES THE SUCCESSES GAINED THROUGH EDUCATION AND GREATER OPPORTUNITY. AND WHEREAS UNION SOLDIERS LANDED AT GALVESTON'S, TEXAS ON JUNE 19TH 18 65 WITH NEWS THAT THE WAR HAD ENDED AND THE ENSLAVED WERE NOW FREE. ON THAT FIRST JUNETEENTH. THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS WERE READ GENERAL ORDER NUMBER THREE, WHICH STATED THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PROCLAMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES, ALL SLAVES ARE FREE. AND WE'RE AS THE FIRST JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WAS A TIME FOR REASSURANCE, PRAYER AND THE GATHERING OF FAMILY MEMBERS TODAY, JUNETEENTH CONTINUES TO GROW WITHIN COMMUNITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. NUMEROUS LOCAL AND NATIONAL JUNETEENTH ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ARISEN ALONGSIDE OLDER ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE COMMON MISSION OF PROMOTING AND CULTIVATING KNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE. WHILE ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS SELF DEVELOPMENT AND RESPECT FOR ALL PEOPLE AND CULTURES. AND WHEREAS OUR LARGER SCALE CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH REMINDS EACH OF US OF THE PRECIOUS PROMISES OF FREEDOM, THE QUALITY AND OPPORTUNITY, WHICH ARE THE CORE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. AND WHEREAS ON SUNDAY JUNE 19TH 2022 FROM THREE PM TO SEVEN PM THE AFRO AMERICAN CITIZENS OF EAST STEWART, OR ACES WILL HOST A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AT THE GUY DAVIS BASKETBALL COURTS IN STUART, FLORIDA AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE IT AS A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE AND CELEBRATION. WITH FAMILY, FUN, FOOD AND MUSIC. NOW, THEREFORE, I MERIT MATHESON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH 2022 AS JUNETEENTH FREEDOM DAY IN THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. THANK YOU, MR MARTEL. AND ACCEPTING ON BEHALF OF ACES PRESIDENT MS NINA DOOLEY. YEAH.[00:10:25]
ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON JUNE 18TH. GUY DAVIS DUE TO CONFLICT WITH FATHER'S DAY. SCHEDULING ISSUES, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE JUNE 18TH AT THE GUY DAVIS PARK SET OF 3 TO 7. WE'RE GONNA BE 11 TO 6. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH MY NEIGHBOR. ONE TO COME OUT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE FUN. KIDS GAMES, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, MUSIC, FREE FOOD FOR THE KIDS, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA ENJOY AND CELEBRATE OUR FREEDOM DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE OUR SERVICE AWARDS. FIRST AWARD. WOULD GO TO MICHAEL. JACOBSON, MICK JACOBSON. FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE I T DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT HERE TODAY. THAT'S THE ONE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SKIP. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, I'M GONNA ANNOUNCE IT 20 YEARS. I KNOW MILTON'S IN THE ROOM, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO ANNOUNCE IT. HE'S NOT HERE TODAY. ENJOYING ECUADOR. NEXT. WE HAVE JANINE WILDY. OF UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING. WILD. FOR 15 YEARS. OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF STEWART.I DIDN'T STAND BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE BECAUSE IT WAS YOU.
10 MINUTES. 18 YEARS. TIME HAS GONE BY SO I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I AM TRULY BLESSED TO WORK WITH SOME FABULOUS FABULOUS PEOPLE. IT MAKES IT VERY EASY. WE HAVE OUR UPS AND DOWNS. TELL YOU WHAT EVERY BIT OF IT IS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MHM. UP NEXT. AS OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM LEADER. DOMINIQUE BUTLER FOR 10 YEARS OF SERVICE.
DON'T HAVE. ON BEHALF OF EMPLOYEE FOR THE CITY OF STORY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THESE WONDERFUL 10 YEARS AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. POLICE DISPATCHER JANET KEMP. FOR FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE. YES. COMEBACKS MY GOD! OH, COME ON UP. MHM.
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AND LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE AND OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BUILDING INSPECTOR BRUCE DUNCAN. YEAH. YEAH.JOB. YEAH, THE LAST PERSON GIVES A SPEECH. WELL THIS IS TRULY AMAZING THAT I MADE IT THIS FAR.
AND I PROPOSE TO DAVE EARLIER TODAY THAT PERHAPS THEY SHOULD CHANGE THIS AWARD A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TO PUT UP WITH ME. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND NOW. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY. BY THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. MISS JOAN GOODRICH. GOOD AFTERNOON. YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, ATTORNEY AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, JOHN GOODRICH. YOUR DIRECTOR OF THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY IN A PROUD PARTNER OF THE CITY OF STEWART HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH OUR NEXT BRIEFING TO YOU. ON OUR WORK TOGETHER. JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHAT THE WHO THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY IS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ONCE AGAIN. WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE AND CHAMPION MARTIN COUNTY'S ECONOMY . STEWART'S ECONOMY EVERY DAY. WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH OWNERS AND EXECUTIVES, ENTREPRENEURS WHO ARE LOOKING TO START GROSS STAY AND COME TO THE CITY OF STUART IN MARTIN COUNTY. OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM IS HERE AND WE'RE SO PLEASED THAT VICE MAYOR TROY MCDONALD IS YOUR LIAISON, AN APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE A 15 MEMBER BOARD. ALONG WITH EX OFFICIO LIAISON FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER HAROLD JENKINS AND WE HAVE FOUR PROFESSIONAL TEAM MEMBERS OR WERE PROFESSIONAL MOST MOST DAYS ANYWAYS. AND IN PARTICULAR, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OUR LATEST TEAM MEMBER PIERRE TASHIRO, WHO IS OUR NEW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE PIER. PLEASE STAND. OKAY AGAIN.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HERE. COMING ON BOARD TO HELP LEAD SOME OF OUR BUSINESS RECRUITMENT EFFORTS, WHICH I'LL GO OVER AND JUST A FEW MINUTES. AGAIN WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT WE HAVE ASSEMBLED THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST MINDS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, TOURISM, MARKETING AND OTHERS, AND WE CALL IT OUR MARTIN COUNTY BIZ TEAM WERE UP TO 35 PARTNERS THAT SIT AT THE TABLE. WE SIT QUARTERLY. AND WE LOOKED TO WORK ON OUR BUSINESS FRIENDLINESS, COMPETITIVENESS, SHARING INFORMATION AND INTELLIGENCE. AND IT'S SOMETHING AGAIN THAT MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE THAT WE'VE CREATED THIS TAPE TABLE IN ORDER TO UNIFY OUR ECONOMIC LEADERSHIP. DURING THE PAST FISCAL YEAR. WE WERE REALLY VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF EIGHT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT GENERATED ALMOST 300 NEW JOBS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WITH AN IMPACT ON COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL SPACE OF OVER 133,000 SQUARE FEET. THING WITH A DIRECT BUSINESS CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF 35 MILLION, UM, THE ONE THAT WE'RE MOST PROUD OF, AND CERTAINLY WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF STEWART WAS THE RELOCATION OF GRIND HARD AMMO INTO THE CITY OF STEWART. DURING THAT PAST FISCAL YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY IN IN ADDITION TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ANNOUNCED NEW CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROJECTS AND CREATED JOBS WITH THOSE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, WE ALSO ASSISTED 624 BUSINESSES. DURING
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THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WE WORKED WITH YOU ALL WITH THE CITY OF STEWART JOB FAIR AND YOU MAY RECALL MAYOR WAY BACK WHEN THAT WAS JUST AS WE WERE COMING OUT OF COVID. THE CITY COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED ABOUT LINKING EMPLOYERS WITH LOCAL JOB SEEKERS AND THAT WAS THE FIRST IN PERSON JOB FAIR THAT THE REGION HAD. SO WE WERE PLEASED TO PARTNER WITH YOU ON THAT. ADDITIONALLY WE TOOK STEPS FURTHER TO ACTUALLY CREATE A TALENT ADVANCEMENT TEAMS SO SIMILAR TO THE PARTNER COUNCIL IN WHICH WE BROUGHT TOGETHER PARTNERS. WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING ON THE TALENT WORKFORCE, SON, SO WE NOW HAVE ON TOP EMPLOYERS, EDUCATION OFFICIALS, UH NONPROFIT LEADERS THAT ARE WORKING ON OUR ISSUE OF TALENT AND WORKFORCE. THIS NEW TALENT ADVANCEMENT TEAM IS ACTUALLY BEING SHARED BY TIMMY MATTHEW, ONE OF OUR SENIOR EXECUTIVES FROM BANK OF AMERICA , AND WE'RE MEETING MONTHLY TO WORK ON, UM, THOSE ISSUES TOGETHER. NOW, WHAT HAVE WE DONE LATELY? AND SINCE YOU'VE LAST SEEN US LAST FALL, WE HAVE ANNOUNCED MAY THREE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENTS, PRIMARILY IN ENCOURAGING NEW SPECULATIVE. INDUSTRIAL SPACE HERE IN IN MARTIN COUNTY, SO THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ALMOST 2 955,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW SPACE COMING ONLINE FOR US TO PUT NEW JOB CREATORS AND AN EXTRAORDINARY CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $125 MILLION ADDITIONALLY, WE , UM WE'RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE HOPE SOUND AREA THAT ALSO ENTERED THE MARKET. FROM A BUSINESS ASSISTANCE POINT OF VIEW. WE ARE TRENDING AHEAD OF LAST YEAR'S RESULTS. CURRENTLY WE'VE ASSISTED 600 BUSINESSES. UM AT THIS TIME DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR. OUR PIPELINE REMAINS VERY ROBUST. WE ARE WE HAVE 38 COMPETITIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECTS IN OUR PIPELINE. IF ALL OF THEM WERE TO LAND, WE WOULD WELCOME MORE THAN 700 NEW JOBS TO OUR COMMUNITY. CAPITAL INVESTMENT WOULD BE ABOUT $472 MILLION. PRIMARILY WE'RE HELPING MANUFACTURERS AT THIS TIME. UM IN ADDITION ABOUT 18% OF OUR PROPERTY PROSPECT ACTIVITY IS LOOKING AT, UM, SPACES AND PLACES INSIDE THE CITY OF STEWART MUNICIPAL LIMITS AT THIS TIME. WE ACTUALLY GET MOST OF OUR REFERRALS DIRECTLY FROM COMPANIES WHO ARE LOOKING TO GROW AND EXPAND IN OUR COMMUNITY , BUT THE NEXT CATEGORY OF REFERRAL SO WE GET FOR PROSPECTS ACTUALLY COME FROM YOUR TEAM, SO AS THEY TALK TO BUSINESSES AS THEY TALKED TO INVESTORS THAT MAY BE LOOKING AT THE CITY OF STEWART. THEY ARE NOW BRINGING US IN. UM MANY MORE TIMES IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE PROSPECTS AS THEY GO THROUGH, UM THE SYSTEM AND MAKING THAT DETERMINATION OF WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT STEP AND MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. SOME OF OUR RECENT ECONOMIC HEADLINES. I JUST WANT TO GO OVER A FEW. WE ARE SO PLEASED THAT THE WORLD'S OLDEST AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURER IS GOING TO ACQUIRE AND FASTER. THE TRIUMPH STEWART FACILITY AND THAT IS DIRE, SO WE WILL BE WELCOMING THEM NEXT MONTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AS THEY FINALIZE THAT ACQUISITION AND QUITE AN EXTRAORDINARY INVESTMENT. THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE. ADDITIONALLY. AND WE ALSO WELCOMED A GROUP FROM SPAIN WITH THEIR NEW JOINT VENTURE PARTNER FROM LAS VEGAS AND MULTI METAL.THREE D PRINTER PRINTING DISRUPTOR WHO SELECTED PALM CITY FOR THEIR NEW U. S SALES AND SHOWROOM, AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A NEW OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH. UM UH, COMPANIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE LOOKING TO LOOK LOOKING TO ENTER THE US THEY'RE LOOKING AT FLORIDA. AND THEY'RE FINDING STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY TO DO THAT. WE WILL SOON ANNOUNCE YOU'LL SEE IN OUR NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE HAVE A NEW NEON LED CUSTOMIZED SIGN COMPANY WHO SELECTED OUR COMMUNITY FOR NEW FACILITY. BUT OF COURSE WE WERE SO PLEASED WITH YOUR DECISION TO WELCOME STRATEGY CON IN MIDDLE ISLAND MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT WITH THE RECENT APPROVAL APPROVALS THAT YOU GAVE THEM FOR THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE STEWART SCIARRA. WE'VE GOT GREEN CARBON SOLUTIONS. FIRST FLORIDA BIO CARBON MANUFACTURING FACILITY ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. SOME OF OUR NUMBERS AGAIN. OUR LABOR FORCE OUR EMPLOYMENT. UM UH, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ON THE RISE.
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THOSE LOOKING FOR WORK IS FALLING AS NOW OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS AT TWO. 2.0% CONSUMER SPENDING AS RELATIVE TO OUR NUMBERS BACK IN JANUARY HAVE JUST FALLEN A BIT, UM, AND FROM A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. PERSPECTIVE AGAIN. OUR VACANCY RATES ARE VERY LOW, SO IN PARTICULAR FOR OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 3.1% VACANCY. ANYTHING USUALLY IN, UM HIGH.SINGLE DIGITS. WOULD WE WOULD SEE THAT DEVELOPERS OR INVESTORS MIGHT COME INTO OUR MARKET TO BUILD NEW OFFICE SPACE AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE, WE'RE DOWN TO 1.3% VACANT AND THAT PARTICULAR COMMERCIALS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE CATEGORY AND IN RETAIL WERE AT 3.9% VACANT SO AGAIN. IT IS HARD FOR BUSINESSES TO FIND PLACES IN SPACES TO STAY GROW AND COME IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM ARE AVERAGE WAGE AT THIS POINT, SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT AND CERTAINLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING AROUND HOUSING RIGHT NOW. OUR AVERAGE WAGE IN MARTIN COUNTY IS $27.73. AN HOUR OR ABOUT 20 $57,000 A YEAR. SOME OF THE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE AGAIN. THE FOUNDRY COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT, UM, THAT WE HAD ANNOUNCED THIS PAST TWO QUARTERS. THE SOUTH FLORIDA GATEWAY PROJECT AGAIN IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST UM, OPPORTUNITIES NOW TO WELCOME LARGE USERS AND LARGE USERS TO FIND OUT ANYTHING FROM NORTH OF 300,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE. OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT SOME NEW PROPERTY OR NEW PROPERTIES THAT HAVE JUST COMPLETED OFF OF CANNER. AND, UM, I 90 SKINNER AND I 90 NO CANTOR AND THE TURNPIKE. I ALWAYS GET MY ROADS NEXT UP. SO THOSE ARE ALL CONDOS, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NEARLY SOLD OUT . THE CANCER SANDS COMMERCE CENTER CONTINUES TO GIVE US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE USERS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR LONG , LONG LEASES THE SUNRISE GROVE OFF OF MARTIN HIGHWAY, AND I 95 BEING DEVELOPED BY ASHLEY CAPITAL IS ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY. SEVEN JAY'S INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE COUNTY IS NOW BRINGING WATER IN STORE. DOWN INTO THAT COMMERCIAL AREA. THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN IS HOT. AND OF COURSE YOU SEE IT AROUND YOU. THE CITY OF STEWART IS ALSO VERY VERY HOT AS IT RELATES TO COMMERCIAL AND NEW NEW JOB CREATORS COMING IN. WE ARE STILL TARGETING, THOUGH THIS ONE LARGE UM, SPACE ON EAST OCEAN THAT'S ABOUT 43,000 SQUARE FEET. WE STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THAT RIGHT MEDICAL VIEWS ER FOR THAT SPACE, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE.
REALLY RAISING, UM, THE MESSAGING AROUND THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WE CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND CERTAINLY OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
FOR THE FOR THE RIGHT. UM, HELPS OF EXCELLENCE AS WE CALL IT, SO THE BUSINESS. THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY AGAIN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO TOUT THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS TO CREATE TO INC TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM WE SCALE AND GROW OUR OWN, TOO. SO I JUST QUICKLY WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT. SINCE YOU'VE SEEN US LAST WE HAVE ANNOUNCED A NEW BUSINESS RECRUITMENT CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE CALLING NOW, THE TIME WE ARE GOING TO PROMOTE THE KEY SALES ATTRIBUTES OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY THROUGH THAT CAMPAIGN.
AND WITH A FOCUS AROUND OUR HUBS OF EXCELLENCE, WHICH I'LL GO OVER AND JUST A FEW MINUTES AGAIN. WE'RE SEEING THAT NATURAL NORTHERN MIGRATION FROM SOUTH FLORIDA COMPANIES WHO CAN'T GROW ANYMORE. IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA MARKETS, SO WE'LL BE TALKING TO THEM FOR OPPORTUNITIES HERE LOCALLY, WILL ALSO BE TALKING TO BUSINESSES THAT ARE GROWING IN THE GREATER ORLANDO AND SPACE COAST AREA BECAUSE WE SEE A REAL NATURAL ALIGNMENT AND CONNECTION WITH THAT REGION AND OUR REGION AND LASTLY, WE'LL BE TAKING OUR MESSAGE TO TELL A HASSI SINCE RIGHT NOW THEY MAY NOT KNOW HOW OPEN WE ARE FOR THE RIGHT TYPES OF BUSINESS. UM WE ARE CREATING OUR NEW CREATIVE ASSETS SO YOU'LL SEE. SOME OF THAT COME THROUGH YOUR INBOX IS AGAIN THE HUBS OF EXCELLENCE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND AVIATION,
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AEROSPACE, MARINE, CLEAN AND GREEN TECH AGRIBUSINESS EQUESTRIAN. MEDICAL HEALTHCARE, AND I T AND WHY THOSE INDUSTRIES AGAIN BECAUSE THOSE ARE PRIMARY INDUSTRIES THAT BRING IN GREAT PAIN JOBS. ALSO THEY BRING IN MONEY FROM THE FROM THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE SELLING NATIONALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE SELLING GLOBALLY AND THAT GIVES US NEW MONIES THAT WE GET TO SEE SPENT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. ALSO DURING THIS PAST YEAR, WE'VE SEEN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAKE AN INVESTMENT USE SOME OF THE WASHINGTON DOLLARS TO COMPLETE A COVID 19 ECONOMIC STUDIES, SO THAT IS ALSO GIVING US SOME REAL FOCUS ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WE BUILD A STRONGER, MORE RESILIENT ECONOMY. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE INNOVATION HUB THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM AND WITH THE TEAM AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH OUR ECONOMIC PARTNERS OF THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL ENERGY CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND THAT REALLY PROVIDES US SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DREAM. AND VISION IN A BIG WAY. AND MAYBE EVEN IN A NEWER WAY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST WHERE WE PROVIDE 21ST CENTURY OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS MOVING FORWARD. THE REACH CENTER IS A NEW EDUCATIONAL ASSET THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS WORKING ON FOR WITHAM FIELD THAT WILL ALSO HELP WITH GROWING OUR OWN TALENT PIPELINE MOVING FORWARD. SPEAKING OF GROWING OUR OWN IN OUR AREA OF BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION, WE HAVE REFINED A LOT OF OUR WORK. THIS IS SOME OF THE WORK THAT WILL DO ONE ON ONE WITH BUSINESSES. WE NOW CALL THEM PULSE VISITS IN WHICH WILL GO INTO A BUSINESS.UM TAKE A PULSE AND HOW BUSINESSES GOING, THAT'S THE NAME PULSE AND DO ANY PROBLEM SOLVING OR HELP THEM WITH ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY SEE MOVING FORWARD IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CONTINUE. TO GROW AND CREATE JOBS. NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THAT DATA AND INFORMATION AND ACTUALLY PRODUCE A PULSE REPORT. YOU WILL SEE THAT. BE PRODUCED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER EARLY OCTOBER, AND WE HOPE TO ALSO BRING FORWARD MAYBE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN BETTER THE WORK AROUND THE ECONOMY BASED ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE HEARING IN THESE ONE ON ONE VISIT. IN THE AREA OF GROW OUR OWN ENTREPRENEURS, ONE OF THE NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE MOST PROUD THAT WE COLLABORATED ON.
UM LAST SUMMER, WE PUT TOGETHER A NEW, UM ENTREPRENEURIAL ENTREPRENEUR SHOULD BE PROGRAM CALLED SIDE HUSTLE TO MAIN GIG. YOU ALL WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT PROGRAM. WE ACTUALLY DID THAT IN PERSON AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN EAST STEWART. AND WE APPRECIATED. UM SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL TALENT, MISS MISS CLARK COMING IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT SIDE HUSTLE TO MAIN GIG.
NOW THIS YEAR, WE ACTUALLY DID IT VIRTUALLY, AND THAT WAS BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD GOTTEN FROM SOME THAT FOUND IT HARD TO ACTUALLY GO IN TO AN IN PERSON SETTINGS, SO WE WANTED TO TEST THAT. SO WE DID PILOT OUR SECOND COHORT. VIRTUALLY WE HAD 13 PARTICIPANTS AND, UM, HAD AWARDED A BUSINESS LAPTOP LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. DURING SIDE HUSTLE TO MAIN GIG AND WE WILL ALSO REIMBURSE ANY ENTREPRENEURS TO BE THAT ARE READY TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP TO FORM THEIR BUSINESSES. LAST IN OUR INAUGURAL COHORT, WE HAD ONE BUSINESS ACTUALLY FORM. AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT TRAINING EXPERIENCE, AND WE HAVE YET TO SEE YOU KNOW HOW MANY. NEW BUSINESSES, WE MIGHT FORM SO SIDE HUSTLE TO MAIN GIG IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T STARTED YET AND AS WE STAND UP OUR NEW ENTREPRENEUR COUNCIL, WE WILL REVISIT AND REBUILD OUR BUSINESS ACCELERATOR PROGRAM FOR EXISTING BUSINESS OWNERS, WITH MORE INFORMATION TO FOLLOW IN THE COMING QUARTERS ON THE AREA OF GROW OUR OWN. IN THE TALENT AREA. I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE HAD STOOD UP OUR TALENT ADVANCEMENT TEAM, WE HELD OUR FUTURE OF WORK AND LEARNING EVENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STUART MARTIN COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WITH PUBLISHED TALENT INDICATORS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR MOVING FORWARD AND LATER , UM AND DURING THE NEXT QUARTER , WE HOPE TO BRING FORWARD AND ACTION PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER. AROUND TALENT AND WORKFORCE. NOW THERE WAS ALSO A SIZABLE INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE IN A NEW REGIONAL TALENT WORKFORCE CAMPAIGN. IT'S
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CALLED TC MAKERS. UM AND THAT CAMPAIGN WAS DESIGNED TO TRY AND PUT A BETTER FACE AND STORIES AROUND COMPANIES WHO WERE HIRING LOCALLY AND IN PARTICULAR FOR SOME OF OUR GRADUATES COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL OR GRADUATES COMING OUT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE. AROUND THOSE SKILLED TRADES MANUFACTURING CAREERS, UM, ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAKING WITH YOUR HANDS AND SO TC MAKERS IS THAT NEW CAMPAIGN AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO WELL ANYWAYS, THERE'S A VIDEO.THERE'S SEVERAL VIDEOS WE'VE GOT VICTORIA'S FOR OUR MALINI. AND WE'VE GOT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOT TECHNOLOGIES IN THIS REGIONAL CAMPAIGN THAT HAS BEEN PLYING. I KNOW I KEEP GOING AGAIN. SO WE'VE GOT OUR PRIORITIES MOVING FORWARD, WHICH WILL BUILD UPON WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE TOGETHER DURING THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TELL FOLKS THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, AND THAT'S OUR NOW'S THE TIME CAMPAIGN. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOSTER ARE LEADING INDUSTRIES AND CREATE GOOD JOB CREATION. AND THAT'S AROUND OUR HUBS OF EXCELLENCE. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR OWN ENTREPRENEURS. KEEP OUR BUSINESSES HERE. KEEP THAT BACK , DOOR CLOSED AND, UM, WORK ON TALENT WORKFORCE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE STRATEGIC AREAS. I'M OFTEN ASKED. WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP THEM? AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE WAYS PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD THAT STEWART IS A GREAT PLACE TO MAKE BUSINESS INVESTMENT AND CREATE JOBS PROVIDED TESTIMONIAL REACH OUT TO THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD WILL PUT YOU ON CAMERA OR WILL PUT YOU IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR AUDIO TESTIMONIAL AGAIN. IF YOU'RE ON SOCIAL MEDIA CACHE, WE'D LOVE TO CONNECT WITH YOU THAT WAY, OR IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS AND WE HAVEN'T MET WITH YOU YET, WE'D LOVE TO DO A PULSE SURVEY. SO AGAIN. WE JUST THANK YOU TREMENDOUSLY FOR THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER. IT'S BEARING FRUITS AND, UM WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHERE THE NEXT STOP PERIOD OF TIME IS GOING TO TAKE US. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MS GOODRICH. I. SO HARD TO EVEN COMPREHEND HOW MUCH THE ECONOMIC AND THE WORKFORCE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED SINCE WE WORKED TOGETHER A YEAR AGO ON ON, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST IMPERSONAL LOCAL JOB FAIR COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. AND WHAT A DIFFERENT PLACE WE'RE IN NOW. CAKE. BUT THERE'S I JUST LOVE HERE AND THERE'S NOTHING. I LIKE HEARING MORE THAN MADE IN THE US BESIDES MADE LOCALLY HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY'S AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF. WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. YOU'RE SPEAKING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS GOODRICH? ABOUT AND SHE'S ANSWERED MOST OF YOURS AND YOU THINK THANK YOU TO JOAN AND ALL OF THE STAFF AT THE BDB. THEY DO A GREAT JOB, UM, WORKING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, JOAN. YES, THANK YOU. GREAT AND EVERYTHING YOU DO REMEMBER WHEN YOU GOT HERE? I THINK BUSINESS DEPARTMENT. THEY MADE BEST. I'M SORRY. I FORGOT. WHAT I WANT TO SAY. WHEN YOU GOT HERE, THEY MADE THE BEST DECISION. AND THEY HIRED YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. UM, THAT WAS WANTED TO ASK. JUST A NOTE. WHEN YOU GET YOUR WORK ACTION PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE UP ONLINE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET LINKS AND WHAT DO IT AND CHECK IT OUT. YES YES. UM YES, MA'AM, SO EVERYTHING IS NOW ONLINE, INCLUDING OUR MEETING AGENDAS AND PACKAGES. UM AND I DO WANT TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS THAT ARE NORMALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, BOTH OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT GENERALLY AT OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING WE GET OUR LARGEST REPRESENT, YOU KNOW INTEREST FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT WILL BE SECOND WEDNESDAYS OF THE MONTH. 8 30 AT INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. IN THE CHEST TANK CAMPUS AND THE TECHNOLOGY BUILDING AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THAT'S NOT OPEN TO ZOOM . YOU JUST HAVE TO COME IN PERSON WORKING WITH TECHNOLOGY CENTER. YES SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING HYBRID UP UNTIL ACTUALLY THE LAST MONTH. SO IT IS IN PERSON NOW. SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT AND FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE COMING UP TO PLANNING FOR OUR BUDGET, AND I THINK WE'VE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT. PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS OR SO. GIVE THEM THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY SO WITH VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND YOUR BOARD TO PRESENT SOME KIND OF A DRAFT OR CITY MANAGER SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER KEENLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE. FOR THAT RENEWAL IS ACTUALLY ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE RENEWAL OF THAT OF THAT PROGRAM. UM AND
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WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT. IT'S CHANGED BACK AND FORTH OVER THE YEARS. I THINK CURRENTLY IT IS A CERTAIN SET AMOUNT AND THEN A KIND OF A PAY TO PLAY OR OR INVOICED FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF IT ERUPTED, CHANGE ANYTHING. WE DEFINITELY WANT HERE THAT OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR NORMAL YEAH. WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THIS STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE. AND WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING THE AID AGREEMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. I JUST WANT TO SAY LIKE THE OPENNESS THAT MS GRUNER SAID THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD.IT'S NOT A SECRET SOCIETY OF CERTAIN PEOPLE OR WHATEVER PEOPLE WOULD THINK OF THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BORDERS. AND YOU'VE REALLY KIND OF BROUGHT IT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY BROUGHT IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT. IN ORDER TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE USING THE MONEY THAT THE CITY GAVE YOU EVEN START MUCH TO DO SOME THINGS IN THE CITY. BUT IF THAT'S JUST IN THE CITY I CAN IMAGINE. OF COURSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALSO PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. BUT JUST REALLY YOUR ACCOUNTING TO US. IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS OPEN TO THE COMMON MAN AND WOMAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR GOODRIDGE. THANK YOU, JOHN. UP. NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE STEWARD HOUSING AUTHORITY. LIKE TO WELCOME MR ROSETTA BAR. BARTELL. INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. OF THE STEWARD HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND WITH HER BELIEVE MR. RHONDA. KURODA'S DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. GOOD AFTERNOON. LIKE. TO WE CAN'T HEAR SOMETHING FROM THE MIC. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MIC. JUST HAVE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THEM. I MEAN, NORMALLY WE HAVE IN THE CENTER OF GOOGLE. THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN PULL THE MIC IF YOU'D LIKE TO HOLD IT OR WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU. REMIND. THANK YOU. I BROUGHT ALONG WITH ME. SOME OF OUR PERSONNEL FROM. FOUR CHEERS. AND FOR STEWART, UM , I BELIEVE IT CAME TO QUESTION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT OR WHAT WAS, UM, THE EMPLOYEE STATUS OF THE STEWARD HOUSING AUTHORITY. SINCE 2018 WHEN HEARD ASKED US TO TAKE OVER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WE HAVE HAD SUFFICIENT HEALTH THERE. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ALL ABOUT 46 EMPLOYEES AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE, UM HEIDI. LOOK, BOY SHE STATIONED THERE. 40 HOURS A WEEK . WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE SECRETARY LINDA SORRY, NANCY JOHNSON. SHE IS A PART OF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM. AS MYSELF AND RHONDA. UM, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR DOING IT THIS WAY IS THAT WE REALIZED THAT IN ALL THE YEARS PRIOR TO 2018, ALL THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR ADMINISTRATION.
THEREFORE THERE WAS LITTLE OR NO FUNDS FOR UM FOR REPAIRS OR FOR WE HAVE CALL US CAPITAL FUNDS PROGRAM BECAUSE ALL THOSE FUNDS WERE GOING INTO ADMINISTRATION SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE DEVELOPED A MANAGEMENT FEE. WHAT WE MANAGED OUT OUR POSITION THERE AND FOR AND STEWART AND WE USE THESE FUNDS TO HOPEFULLY NOT CHARGE THEM AS MUCH BUT JUST CHARGED HIM A MANAGEMENT THE SO THAT WE COULD BUILD ON THE CAPITAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM HUD. SO I HAVE BEEN WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR 28 YEARS. I STARTED OFF AS ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AND I WORKED MY WAY UP FROM 17 YEARS AS FINANCE DIRECTOR. SO I'M I'M ALL INTO THE DOLLARS. AND SINCE SO, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM AND GRANDADS WITH. UM SHE'S ALWAYS DONE PROCUREMENT . SO I ASKED HER TO COME ALONG, SO SHE COULD TELL YOU WHAT OUR PLANS ARE. PLANS HOPE TO BE.
BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING AND HOUSING, YOU KNOW IT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW.
CHILLED. EXPLAIN THAT SO I WANTED TO EXPLAIN HOW HOW WILL RECEIVE FUNDING BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ASKING ME. STEWART HAS 70 UNITS SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WE DON'T GET THAT MUCH FROM HER FOR SUBSIDY OPERATING SUBSIDY FOR THIS YEAR IS 258,000. FROM THE FROM OUR RENTAL INCOME. WE RECEIVED 260,000. OH ANNUAL REVENUE AND EXPENSES. UH, REVENUE. IT IS
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ABOUT $518 THAT WE RECEIVED. 518,000 I'M SORRY. AND THEN OUR EXPENSES COME TO 550,000. SO GUESS WHAT. SOME OF THE MONEY TO RUN HAS TO COME FROM OUR CF P PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL FUNDS PROGRAM IN 2019. WE RECEIVED 100 AND $19,000 AND MONIES FOR OUR CAPITAL FUND. 20 2100 AND 41,020 21. WE SEE THE 150,000. SO WITH THOSE NUMBERS, IT TAKES SOME OF THE, UM PUBLIC HOUSING. FUNDS THAT WE NEED COMES FROM OUR CF P PROGRAM, AND THAT'S ABOUT $30,000. SO INADVERTENTLY, WE WOULD WE STILL HAVE TO USE SOME, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. BUT BY ALLOCATING JUST A FEW EMPLOYEES THERE. BUT IF SOMEONE IF THERE'S A REPAIR THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE THE WHOLE MAINTENANCE COMES TO THE AID OF WHATEVER THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW WE HAVE REACT GOING ON. OUR UNITS HAVEN'T BEEN, UM, INSPECTED SINCE BEFORE COVID. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT WE'RE FINDING WHEN WE GO IN AND, UM NO HOUSEKEEPING. UM YOU KNOW, THE UNITS HAVEN'T BEEN GONE IN DOING THE WHOLE TIME OF COVID, AND WE'RE HAVING SOMEONE TO REPAIR THOSE UNITS NOW, SO WE HAVE A LONG WE HAD. WE SENT SOMEONE IN TO JUST GO IN AND TELL US WHAT THE UNITS NEED. HE WENT IN EVERY 70 UNITS, AND WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE RECTIFIED BEFORE BEFORE JUNE 1ST WHEN HUG COMES IN, AND SENDS A REACT INSPECTOR TO INSPECT OUR UNITS, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING NOW. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING BOTH AGENCIES WORK. STUART AND FOR APPEARS IS THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE WHERE WHO NEEDS WHEREVER WE NEED SOMEONE TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, BECAUSE IT WAS A PROBLEM. WE WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE FROM FORT PIERCE TO STEWART. I THINK, UM, I FINANCE ASSISTANT. SHE WOULD DRIVE TO HANDLE THEIR BOOKS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE MOVED CHANGED THE COMPUTER. SO THAT SHE COULD WORK FROM THE COMPUTER AND FORT PIERCE AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE STEWARD INFORMATION SO THAT CUT DOWN TWO HOURS OF DRIVING TIME EACH DAY BY GOING THERE, SO WE ARE, AS WE FIND WAYS TO BETTER THE RELATIONSHIP TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. THIS IS HOW WE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO RHONDA'S GOING TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. HOWEVER LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE TO EDGE OFF A LITTLE MONEY JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING AFLOAT BECAUSE WE HAVE UTILITIES TO PAY. WE HAVE, UM YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER BUILDING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. LIKE I SAID BUDGET FOR JUST ONE YEAR FIVE CAN RUN UP TO BE $550,000 JUST TO RUN THE AGENCY. A NORMAL EVERYDAY WITH NO, UM, WITH NO HICCUPS AND JUST NORMAL RUNNING IT RUNNING THE AGENCY. IT'S 558,000. AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT ROSETTA HAS SAID IN THE IN THE SPIRIT OF FULL TRANSPARENCY.WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE AGENCY NOW IS WHENEVER A CHECK IS WRITTEN. THERE'S NEVER ONE SIGNATURE ON ANY CHECK, NO MATTER WHAT THE AMOUNT IS, EVEN IF IT'S A $15 CHECK IT REQUIRES TO LIVE SIGNATURES. THAT SIGNATURE IS THE INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS ROSETTA BARTEL AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD. BOTH OF THEM HAVE TO SIGN ON EVERY SINGLE UM, CHECK. WHEN THE BOARD IS PRESENTED THEIR THEIR, UM, BI MONTHLY MEETINGS. EVERY CHECK THAT WAS EVER WRITTEN, IS THEN AGAIN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD SO THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE EVERY SINGLE CHECK. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, SHE SAYS. STEWART HAS 70 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS. WE ARE AT 100% CAPACITY. EVERY SINGLE UNIT IS FILLED AT THIS TIME WITH THE WAITING LIST OF 1003 PEOPLE. THE SECTION EIGHT. WE HAVE 89 VOUCHERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING OCCUPIED.
STEWART IS ALLOWED 77 REGULAR VOUCHERS. 35 ASH, WHICH IS FOR THE VETERANS, AND WE HAVE FIVE HP, WHICH EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS NOW, EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS. EVERYBODY THOUGHT WAS A WONDERFUL THING UNTIL THERE'S A PRESENTATION YOU HEARD BEFORE HOURS, THERE'S NO HOUSING AVAILABLE. SO THEREFORE, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED TO MOVE INTO HOMES, WE CAN'T FIND ANY PLACE FOR THEM TO GO. HUD HAS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PAY. AND AS YOU SEE, THE RENT HAS SOARED OVER 40 30 TO 40% IN MOST AREAS, SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ALLOW THEM TO LISA. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FUNDS THAT ARE RECEIVED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE CAPITAL FUNDS, WHICH ARE TO BE USED TO TAKE CARE OF MAINTENANCE AND SERVICES, AS SHE SAID, THE AMOUNTS THAT WE GET ONE OF THE MAIN PROJECT, THEIR THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST ONE IS NEW PIPING. THEY STILL ALL OF THESE UNITS STILL HAPPY OLD COPPER CAST IRON PIPING. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THINGS LIKE THAT? THEY NEED TO BE CONVERTED TO THIS PVC IN ORDER TO DO THAT IS
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GOING TO BE AN AVERAGE OF $7000 PER $9000 PER UNIT. SORRY. THAT'S $630,000. NOW YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE, AS FAR AS HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED IS GOING TO TAKE US ANOTHER THREE YEARS BEFORE WE CAN DO ALL OF THE UNITS. QUESTION IS, WHY NOT START WITH A LITTLE AT A TIME? THEN PEOPLE ASK. WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU DO MY APARTMENT? WHY DID YOU DO THE OTHER PERSON'S APARTMENT? WHY DID THEY GIVE YOU SOME TORRENTIAL TREATMENT SO THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL ABILITIES, WE WERE WAITING UNTIL WE CAN GET THOSE FUNDS. ANYTIME A GRANT COMES AVAILABLE, WE DEFINITELY WOULD DO WHATEVER WHATEVER IS ABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THAT. BUT DEALING WAS LABELED AS A SMALL HOUSING AUTHORITY. ANYTHING UNDER 250 IS LABELED SMALL. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT JUST TO GET THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PARAMETERS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET. THE SECOND THING IS ALL OF THESE UNITS HAVE WINDOW UNITS AS FAR AS A C IS CONCERNED. NONE OF THEM EXCEPT FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAVE CENTRAL HEAT AND AIR. THAT'S THE NEXT THING THAT WE LIKE TO DO IN ORDER TO DO THAT. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S PROJECTED RIGHT NOW. AND AS YOU KNOW, RATES ARE GOING UP WITH SUPPLIES, BUT THE PROJECTION RIGHT NOW IS 525,000. TO TAKE CARE OF ALL 70 UNITS. ROOFING IS OUR THIRD AND THEY'RE NOT IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER IS AN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE. BUT ROOFING IN ORDER TO DO IT IS PROJECTED IT WILL COST $12,000 MINIMUM PER UNIT IN ORDER TO DO THE ROOFING, WHICH COMES UP TO 980,000. SO YES, WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES, BUT WE'RE UP FOR THE TASK, AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT WAYS TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. WHAT WE STARTED DOING IS ANY TIME THERE'S A MOVE OUT. WE'VE DONE WHAT'S CALLED A MODERNIZATION. SO IF A VACANCY COMES ABOUT, WE WOULD TAKE IT WE GO IN. WE ASSESS THE BATHROOM. WE MODERNIZE THE BATHROOM AT THE CABINETS NEED TO BE REPLACED. WE REPLACE THE CABINETS AT THE FOURTH FLOORS NEED TO BE REDONE. WE DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IN ORDER NOT TO UPROOT THE TENANTS. WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE PLUMBING PROBLEM IN ONE OF THE UNITS WHERE WE HAD TO ACTUALLY DIG DOWN. ABOUT THREE FT DOWN INTO THE SLAB IN ORDER TO GET THE PLUMBING PROBLEM TAKEN CARE OF WE NEEDED TO MOVE THE TENANT OUT. WE LOOKED AT A SITUATION. HOW COULD WE TAKE CARE OF THIS TENANT? WELL SHE HAD HER FURNITURE THERE. STEWART DOESN'T ALLOW A POD TO SIT IN THE DRIVEWAY, SO WE COULDN'T DO THAT. SO WE HAD TO FIND A WAY, SO WE ENDED UP GIVING HIM GETTING A MOVING COMPANY TO WORK WITH US AS A LIAISON TO TAKE HER FURNITURE OUT, STORE IT FOR US IN FOR PIERS, AND THEN AFTER IT WAS DONE, BRING IT BACK TO THE UNIT. AND WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A COMPANY WHO WAS ABLE TO GO IN AND FIX THE TILE AND RECENT LAB, THE UNIT AND A RECORD NUMBER OF DAYS. THEY ONLY TOOK THREE DAYS TO DO THAT. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT WE DO FACE. AS ROSETTA SAID. I AM AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES TO WORK WITH HEIDI AND IT IN THE PAST, THEY HAD ONE MAINTENANCE PERSON.WHO WAS TAKING CARE OF ALL 70 UNITS. NOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO 16 MAINTENANCE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN AT ANY GIVEN TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR UNITS. IN THE PAST, THEY DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO AN HR PERSON WHO COULD COME IN AND LOOK AT THE INSURANCE DOING EQUATIONS AND ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENTS OF THEIR INSURANCE. NOW THEY HAVE AN HR PERSON WHO WAS ABLE TO COME IN. THEY HAVE A DEDICATED FINANCIAL PERSON WHO WAS THERE AT ALL TIMES WHO COULD COME IN BECAUSE SHE'S ABLE TO REMOTELY DO EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO WHILE STUART, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WHEN WE GOT STEWART IN 2018. IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR US BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THINGS HAD NOT BEEN DONE. ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HUD LAYS OUT. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT NOW THAT WE HAVE MOVED FROM HAVING A VERY TROUBLESOME AUDIT IN 2019 TO A POINT THAT WE ARE ALMOST AT A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE NO FINDINGS WHATSOEVER. NOT NOT THAT MATERIAL. WELL, THANK YOU, UM. I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THAT INVITED YOU ALL HERE TODAY BECAUSE WELL SINCE ABOUT 2018. WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU AND WHEN WE WELCOME YOU TO COME TO THE CITY OF STEWART WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF YOU. AT ONE OF OUR RECENT JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE CITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AND INDIAN TOWN. AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN TOPICS OF DISCUSSION AS IT IS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. SO ONE OF THE WAYS PETIT JIK LEE AND LOGICALLY, THAT WE COULD MAYBE ATTACK THAT IS WORK WITH OUR LOCAL WHETHER IT'S STUART PASTE INTO REM OR LOCAL ENCOMPASSING FORT PIERCE OR HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND WE KNOW THERE'S CERTAINLY AN ISSUE.
ON THE AVAILABLE UNITS, AND THERE'S ALWAYS FUNDING ISSUES. BUT. WE'RE GLAD TO START THE DIALOGUE AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES, SO AND THIS IS JUST FOR THAT APPLICATION OF THE OF THE PUBLIC. SO IN MARTIN COUNTY,
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STEWART IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A HUD. THERE'S NOT ONE IN INDIAN TOWN OR ANY OTHER AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE IN THEIR TALENT DOES HAVE AN INDIAN TOWN NONPROFIT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT FALLS UNDER UNDER GUIDELINES. AND SO IS FOUR. PIERCE THE SAME AS STEWART TO WHERE YOU FALL INTO THE GOVERNANCE OF HUD AND NOT THE CITY OF STEWART, SO FORT PIERCE DOESN'T OWN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. THAT'S CORRECT. OK SO IT'S THE SAME WAY AS OURS IS WHERE WE JUST APPROVED THEIR BOARD MEMBERS KIND OF A DEAL, OKAY? THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON I JUST HAD A QUESTION. THANK YOU. I'VE MET YOU BEFORE. I KNOW THAT IT'S HURRICANE SEASON. PHYSICS ASTRA FEE AT ANY OF THE HOUSING BUILDINGS, PROBABLY THE SAME AS ALL OF US WOULD SUFFER. WHAT DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PRODUCT JUST HOT? HAVE SPECIAL PLANS WHERE MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED TO GO TO WAR? CERTAIN PLACE OR TENT CITY OR SOMEWHERE IN TERMS OF YOUR EMERGENCY PLANS AND HOW YOU INTERFACE WITH US. IF THERE'S A TRUE YOU'RE TELLING US THAT SOME OF YOUR BUILDINGS HAVE ISSUES SO WE DO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT WOULD HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY HOMELESS, BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN? WE DO HAVE A HURRICANE PLAN. HOWEVER, WE DO NOT. IT ACTS AFTER THE FACT THEY WILL, THEY WILL GIVE MONEY'S.FOR REMEMBER FEMA AND. THEY WOULD MAKE DISASTER GRANT TO COVER THAT. HOWEVER WHAT WE DO IS WE GIVE THEM ALL THE INFORMATION. WELL, IF THERE WAS NO HURRICANE WOULD TELL THEM OF ALL THE SHELTERS AND OR WAS THAT INFORMATION BUT AND WE WOULD HAVE MAINTENANCE ON CALL, SO THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME ALREADY PURCHASED TARPS IN CASE THE ROOFS GO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE DONE DUE DILIGENCE ON OUR PART AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT AFTER THE STORM, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT PRIOR. OR YOU KNOW, WE WERE SENT OUT THE INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE NOTICES FOR ANY SHELTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SO UNITS. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. AND THE UNITS THERE ALREADY. UM THEY'VE BEEN FREE CONSTRUCTED, CONSTRUCTED WITH THE POINT THAT EVERY WINDOW HAS A FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD HEAVY DUTY SCREENING. THAT IS AN IMPACT RESISTANCE SCREENING SO THAT WILL PREEMPT ANY KIND OF THINGS ANY KIND OF MISSILES FROM SHOOTING INTO THE HOME. THE DOORS ARE METAL AS WELL, WHICH IS CONSIDERED HURRICANE RATING.
SO THOSE MEASURES ARE IN PLACE AND ROSETTA SAID. WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED THE TARPS. WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD WORK ON 12 HOUR SHIFTS IN CASE RIGHT RIGHT AT THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD SAY THAT A HURRICANE IS IMMINENT. WHEN THERE'S A WATCH. WE HAVE ONE THING THAT HAS DONE THEIR YELLOW NOTICES THAT HAS GIVEN OUT TO THE TENANTS STATING TO THEM. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE ON HAND. HERE'S YOU, YOU NEED TO CONTACT IT MOVES TO THE WARNING STATUS. WE PUT OUT RED NOTICES TO EVERYONE SO THAT THEY KNOW THIS IS AN ALERT AND IT TELLS THEM AGAIN. IT REITERATES THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT ALSO SAYS TO THEM, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE LEAVING YOU NOTIFY US AND LET US KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU. AND IF WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPDATE OUR LIST OF WHOEVER WE YES. SO WE DO. WE BOTH HAVE THE MEASURES THAT WE DO HAVE IN PLACE. OKAY? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. HE SAID . YOUR BOARD IS ACTIVE AND FULLY ENGAGED RIGHT NOW. YOUR BOARD FOR CITY FOR STEWART, THE ONES THAT WERE PROVEN AT UPDATE EVERY YEAR VERY MUCH, SO, OKAY, SO AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION. WE KNOW THE HOUSING IS A CRISIS AND PROBABLY, I THINK MAYBE WHAT PEOPLE PAY MAY SEND THEIR INCOME AT PUBLIC HOUSING. IS PROBABLY MAYBE SHOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE. I'M NOT SURE. WHAT IS THERE A POINT WHEN PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LIVING IN PUBLIC HOUSING EITHER REFUSE. TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME BECAUSE THEY MAY BE PRICED OUT OR DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE? MORE PRICE STARTED AN INCOME LEVEL AND YOU ASK THEM TO LEAVE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED FLAT RANCH RATES. FLAT RENT MEANS THAT YOU'VE GONE TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT CAN CHARGE YOU. AND WHAT DOES THAT PLEASE 11 16, 11 69, 11, 69 OR THREE BEDROOM OR ANYTHING? JUST 11 65. NOW HUTCH IS. AS YOU SAY IT IS INCOME BASED, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S NEVER SHOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE A PERSON SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR RENT.
BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A JOB, THEN IT IS BASED ON THAT AMOUNT OF INCOME. IF THEY LOSE THEIR JOB, THEY'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND IMMEDIATELY AND DO A CHANGE OF INCOME STATUS, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WOULD IMMEDIATELY LOWER THEY'RE IN THERE. THEIR RENT RATE, SO THERE NEVER SHOULD BE A TIME WHEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE HUD HAS MADE SURE WITH PUBLIC
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HOUSING THAT THAT DOES NOT OCCUR. NOW. ALSO WITH PUBLIC HOUSING, THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE PARAMETERS AND THE PURVIEW TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OH, THERE'S A PERSON WHO IS HOMELESS. WE WANT TO PUT THEM IN A UNIT WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. THERE IS A SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS THAT THAT GARNER HOW PEOPLE MOVE IN RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON DATE AND TIME WHEN YOU SIGN UP AND YOU'RE ON THE WAITING LIST. IT IS A DATE AND TIME. I DO NOT BELIEVE OKAY. IT IS STRICTLY DATE AND TIME. WHICH MEANS THE TIME THAT YOU PUT IN YOUR APPLICATION AS YOUR NAME COMES UP IN THAT DATE. YOU ARE THE NEXT PERSON. THEY DON'T WANT THIS. CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR HANDICAP OR A PREFERENCE FOR WORKING FAMILY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS STRICTLY BY DATE AND TIME, WHICH MEANS THE TIME YOU CAME ON THE LIST WILL BE THE TIME THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET IN. IF THERE'S AN OPENING, WE ONLY AVERAGED FIVE VACANCIES A YEAR.AND IT'S MY LAST ONE LITTLE QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW. THE LAST ONE I KNOW IT'S UM, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME MAKE ME FORGET WHAT I WAS. I WAS GONNA SAY. IN IT. HE DID IT. NO BASICALLY IF THEY IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE IN PUBLIC HOUSING, WHAT'S ABOUT HER SITUATION LIKE LIKE AVAILABLE VULTURES FOR PEOPLE TO GET SOMETHING ELSE SOME OTHER SECTION EIGHT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. VERY SAD AND DIFFICULT SITUATION RIGHT NOW, WITH THE HOUSING MARKET THE WAY IT IS, AS WE SAID, WE HAVE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS. WE CURRENTLY UM STUART HOUSING AUTHORITY IS A LOT OF 77 VOUCHERS. WE HAVE FILLED THOSE 77 VOUCHERS, BUT WE ALSO ARE ALLOTTED 35 VASH, WHICH VETERANS VOUCHERS WE ONLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FILL 22 OF THOSE. SO WE'VE OVER LEAST ARE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS TO MAKE A TOTAL OF 89 TO COMPENSATE FOR IT BECAUSE HUD WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE VOUCHERS ARE UTILIZED. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS HERE IN STUART. WE'VE HAD MORE PROBLEMS IMPORTING IMPORTANT YEARS FOR ST LUCIE, AND THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY WOULD BEING ABLE TO FIND PEOPLE WHO WILL ALLOW US TO ZONE SECTION EIGHT. AND WHEN TIMES WERE HARD WHEN RICK WAS HARD TO FIND EVERYBODY WANTED THEIR HOMOSEXUAL EIGHT AS SOON AS PEOPLE STARTED CALLING AND SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SELL YOUR HOUSE? AND IT WAS MORE THAN UP TO MAYBE 40 50% MORE OF WHAT THEY BOUGHT IT FOR? EVERYBODY STARTED SELLING OUT THEIR HOUSES AND SO AND THEN. WHY SHOULD I PUT MY HOUSE ON SECTION EIGHT IS THE THOUGHT WHEN I CAN GET MUCH MORE ON THE OPEN MARKET FOR THIS, AND YOU CAN ONLY PAY X AMOUNT, SO THAT IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ARE. UNFORTUNATELY EVEN WITH EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS WHERE WE HAVE 35 THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO STEWART. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE WITH FINDING OUT OF THE HOUSE AND WE STILL HAVE ONE PENDING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE ON THE WAITING LIST AND STEWART WHICH WAITING LIST BOTH OF THEM PEOPLE DO LIVE PHYSICALLY VULTURE 1003 FOR THE PUBLIC HOUSING AND 21 PER SECTION EIGHT. SECTION EIGHT WAITING LIST IS CLOSED. THE PUBLIC HOUSING WAITING LIST IS STILL THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION WILL HAVE TO WORK HARDER WITH YOU HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS AND MINOR THING.
HOW DOES NOT EXPANDING THEIR PROGRAMS AT THIS TIME YOU WERE AT YOUR MAXIMUM FEAR. YEAH. THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. UM SO HOW MANY UNITS DOES THIS FORT PIERCE HAS PHYSICAL UNITS. 826 PUBLIC HOUSING. AND IT LEFT. 18 AFFORDABLE UNITS AND 11 1100 SECTION EIGHT. 826 PHYSICAL, PUBLIC HOUSING AND WE HAVE 70 CORRECT SOME OF THE BENEFIT. I'M TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM, BUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS YOU DESCRIBED OF US COMBINING WITH FOUR PIERS. WAS THAT WE WOULD SAVE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. LET SOME YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE FULL SALARY OF FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE SO AND THAT HAPPENED ABOUT 2018 OR SO FEBRUARY 28 TODAY, OKAY? UM. SO SINCE THEN, OUR STEWART HUD HAS BEEN SAVING THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. ARE WE SAID ANOTHER NUMBER THAT ANYTHING OVER TO FOR US TO BE CONSIDERED A LARGE UM. HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE OVER 250 UNITS, AND THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO THE MEDIUM MEDIUM RIGHT NOW. STUART SPECIFICALLY IS SMALL. BUT. OVER 250 WOULD BE A MEDIUM THAT WOULD MAKE US ELIGIBLE FOR MORE TEARS OF GRANTS. IS THAT IT? FAIRCLOTH WHAT HUD HAS ESTABLISHED HOW MANY PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS AND AREA CAN HAVE HEARD AS ESTABLISHED THAT STEWART CAN HAVE 70. STEWART DOES HAVE 70 SO RIGHT NOW, UNLESS THEY CHANGE REGULATIONS, ORDINANCES, STEWART CAN NEVER HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, SO CAN'T INCREASE WHEN WERE COMBINED WITH FORT
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PIERCE, DO WE GET TO PIGGYBACK ON THOSE EXTRA 800? PLUS UNITS? SEPARATE BODY. SEPARATE FINANCES ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE. THE ONLY COMBINATION IS ADMINISTRATIVE. RIOTS OPERATE TOTALLY SEPARATE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF OUR AGENCY. SO WE HAVE, UM FINANCE PERSON WHO WHO HAS BEEN WHO WAS WORKING WITH PRIOR. MINISTRATIONS SHE'S STILL ON BOARD BECAUSE SHE UNDERSTANDS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE SMALLER. YEAH. SO WITH THAT. SO ALL THE FINANCES ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE SINCE 2018 HAVE THE SAVINGS THAT WE'VE HAD IN IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. HAS THAT BUILT UP A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BALANCE BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE WE HAVE SOME LOOMING PROBLEMS WITH THOSE UNITS IN THE FUTURE. UM YES, IN 2019. WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE 119,000. WHICH IN TIME PAST, ALL THE FUNDS WERE GOING TO ADMINISTRATION TO THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND TRAVEL AND YOU KNOW WHATEVER EXPENSES THAT STEWART HAD. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE IN 20, 1819 AND 20 1,919,000, AND WE PROJECT. THAT IN 2020 CF PE FUNDS WILL HAVE 141,000. SO IT'S STILL IT'S STILL A LONG WAY, YOU KNOW TO GET ENOUGH FUNDING TO AND THEN LIKE WE HAVE LIKE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PLUMBING ISSUE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING THROUGH INSPECTIONS. SO THESE ARE THESE OUR EXPENSES THAT ARE NORMAL.ABOVE AND BEYOND. THESE ARE MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING COLD AND BUILDING 70 UNITS PLACING ROOTS. BUT WE'VE RACKED UP SAY WE AS AN HUD RACKED UP. UP ABOVE 100,020 , 19 AND 2020 TO PUT TOWARDS THESE FOR THE 70 UNITS. ARE YOU WORKING WITH ANY OF OUR LOCAL NONPROFITS? BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. IN THE CITY OF STEWART, MARTIN COUNTY AS WELL, WE HAVE YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS LIKE PROJECT LIFT WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRAINING. PLUMBERS ON HAND TO DO WORK, UM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO GET IN THERE AND APPRENTICE UNDER A PLUMBER TO DO THESE TYPE OF LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE I GUESS MY GOAL IS AS PERHAPS CURRENT MAYOR. WOULD BE TO SEE. YOU KNOW ALL THOSE CAPITAL PRUDENT PLAN FOR ALL THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE COMPLETED? IN THE FUTURE, OR MAYBE AS MANY AS COULD BE COMPLETED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE COULD OUT START ALLOCATING THAT MONEY. TOWARDS MORE HOUSING. ONE THING WOULD SEE FP IS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT. IT HAS TO BE OBLIGATED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS. SO WE RIGHT NOW, AS SHE WAS CALLING OUT THE AMOUNTS AND FIGURES FOR THOSE PROJECTS IT WOULD TAKE. IF WE DIDN'T USE ANY OF THESE YEARS, IT WOULD THE THREE YEARS TOTAL UP TO LESS THAN FOUR. $1000 AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. LET ME PUT ON MY PROCUREMENT PRACTICES, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE DONE FOR SO MANY YEARS IN ORDER TO HAVE ANYTHING DONE. OF COURSE, THIS WOULD BUREAUCRACY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS REQUIRES US TO DO ANYTHING OVER 150,000 WELL FOR STEWART RIGHT NOW. THE SMALL PROJECT THRESHOLD IS 35,000, BECAUSE WHAT HUD SAYS IS THE FEDERAL THRESHOLD IS 250,000.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA THRESHOLD IS 35,000. HUD SAYS, WHICHEVER IS THE MORE STRINGENT YOU SHOULD GO WITH. NOW THERE ARE MANY HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT DON'T GO WITH THAT. BUT FOR STEWART RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 35,000. ANYTHING OVER 35,000 REQUIRES US TO GO OUT FOR BID. BIT MEANS IT IS A CONSTRUCTION. IT IS THE SHARPEST PENCIL GETS THE WORK. IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE IT IS HARD CAPITAL FUNDS THAT ARE BEING INVOLVED UNLESS IT WAS 100% BEING DONE AS A DONATION.
WE CANNOT JUST PARTNERED WITH SOMEONE AND SAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WORK. IT IS A WONDERFUL IDEA. OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY, BUT ONLY THING THAT ALLOWS THOSE THINGS ARE WITH YOUTH BUILD SITUATIONS, AND THOSE ARE GRANTS THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR TO EVEN BE ABLE TO USE THEM. SO AT THIS TIME, THE ONLY AVENUE THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IS THROUGH THE HUT CFT, WHICH REQUIRES YOU TO GO OUT. A FORMAL BID AND CONTRACTORS HAVE TO BID THE LOWEST PRICE DOES GET WORK. OKAY. JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS IS SO IT DOES. IT'S HARD. THE ONE THAT REQUIRES. YOU KNOW ANY LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO BE DONE ALL 70 UNITS AT ONCE, DO THEY NOT ALLOW IT TO BE SPLIT UP? THAT IS WHAT'S CALLED BIT SPLITTING. THAT IS AGAINST RULES AND REGULATIONS. IF YOU KNOW A PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND ALL OF THE UNITS, YOU CANNOT SAY WE'LL DO A LITTLE BIT NOW. WE'LL DO A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE THAT IS CALLED BIT SPLITTING IN . IN THE PAST, PEOPLE HAVE DONE
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THAT TO AWARD TO COMPANIES WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GET BONDING OR WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE MEASURE OF HUD'S REQUIREMENTS OF REGULATIONS. SO NO. UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT SO HARD REQUIRES, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THE ROOFS TO BE REPLACED AT ONCE FOR ALL 70 UNITS. YOU CAN'T EMERGENCY SITUATION BUILDING. RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS IF A ROOF IS LEAKING. WE REPAIR THAT, BUT ANYTIME YOU SIT DOWN AND DO A PHYSICAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND SAY THAT 40% OF THE ROOTS NEED TO BE REPLACED, AND ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THAT TIME. OKAY? AND YOU SAID THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPLYING FOR SOME GRANTS. HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR ANY AT THIS TIME SEARCHING THERE? THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT COME UP THAT STEWART FEES THAT FITS THE PARAMETERS BECAUSE OF THE SMALL DIRECT THE SMALL NUMBER THAT IT IS. YES WE PUT IN FOR ONE FOR FORT PIERCE AND, UM BYE. FOR AND IT WAS FOR PEST CONTROL RODENTS AND TERMITES.AND YOU KNOW WE DID HAVE ISSUES. THAT'S ONE QUESTION. CAN I TRY? I WAS GONNA ASK IF I COULD HEAR FROM OUR STEWART PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO SEE YOU. AND IF YOU COULD COME UP HERE IS IT TO PEOPLE FROM STUART? HAVING EXCELLENT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE. YEAH I FIND THERE SO I DON'T WANT TO PAY ALL THAT OVER. THAT'S WHY OUR MEETINGS RUN SO LATE HERE, AND I KNOW THAT VICE MAYOR HAS QUESTIONS AND I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS BEFORE, BUT I JUST HAVE TO THINGS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THEM. I'M JUST PUTTING THEM OUT THERE. FOR THE RECORD THAT, UM, DELAWARE COMMONS AND SOME OTHER BUILDINGS OF BLUE BUILDINGS OR IN OUR WOODLAND AREA AND IN OUR CREEK SIDE DISTRICT AREA. AND WE'RE DOING A STUDY OVER THEIR WHOLE COURT OF STUDY. LAND YOU STUDY ZONING JUST JUST LOOKING AT THE AREA AND WE WERE WONDERING HOW WE CAN GET INVOLVEMENT, ESPECIALLY FROM THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES THAT LIVE THERE AS WELL AS YOU GUYS FOR YOUR FUTURE PLANNING. THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. AND THEN THE BIGGER QUESTION TO THAT IS WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES IN THE CITY OF STEWART. THAT WE WANT TO GET OUT AND TO GET THE APPEARANCE INVOLVED IN THE STUDENTS INVOLVED. THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT BECAUSE OF BASICALLY WE CAN'T EVEN POST ANYTHING ON YOUR PROPERTIES LIKE TO GO TO YOUR DOOR AND KNOCK ON YOUR DOORS OR DO CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR THING, AND OF COURSE, WE COULD PROBABLY GIVE INFORMATION TO THE OFFICE OF BEEN BY THE OFFICE. PROBABLY ON THE CHURCH STREET SIDE. MAYBE NOT ON THAT BAHAMA WHEN I'M GONE THROUGH THERE. IT HAS BEEN CLOSED, BUT MAYBE IT WAS COVID AND THINGS WERE DIFFERENT. THEN I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE SCHEDULE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMUNITY FLYERS WHEN YOU NORMALLY NOT GONNA SINGLE FAMILY DOOR AND HAND OUT SOMETHING, NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING POLITICAL, BUT JUST COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.
HOW WE CAN TRULY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A NETWORK IF WE GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT YOU WILL GET IT OUT TO YOUR PEOPLE WHO LIVE, UH , IN YOUR UNITS AND AGAIN. ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING ARE PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY THE ONES. WHO WOULD WANT THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THINGS LIKE THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BORDERS TALKED ABOUT. WE WANT THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HOUSING. UM WORKSHOPS AND INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. FOR THEM TO POSSIBLY MOVE UP AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND WOULD REALLY WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH YOU. I'M PERSONALLY GOING TO COME AND MEET WITH YOU TWO GUYS AGAIN. BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE IT. I'VE BEEN THERE LIKE I SAID, BUT I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IN. I USED TO BE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WAY BACK WHEN WITH BERNIE MALONE AND OTHER PEOPLE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO RESIDE THERE. AND THAT WERE, UM NOT JUST FOLLOWING THE HUG GUIDELINES BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING INFORMATION AND TRYING TO GET TO MOVE ON UPWARDS. MR. MCDONALD, I'M SORRY. UH WELCOME . THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. IT WAS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER MET ANY OF YOU. SO UM, IT WAS A PLEASURE KIND OF LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS DO YOU AND I THINK MORE INTERESTINGLY, THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU GUYS FACE WHEN YOU TOOK OVER THE STEWARD HOUSING AUTHORITY. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEEN A REAL UM, UM, YEAH. YEAH IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE FOR Y'ALL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE STEPPING UP AND IT'S BEEN A TOUGH COUPLE OF YEARS ANYWAYS TO DEAL WITH THE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS FOR YEARS, SO DID I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
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ONE IS WE HAVE 70 UNITS, UM, AND YOUR ANNUAL COST IS I HEARD YOU SAY IT WAS LIKE ABOUT $550,000.BUT YOU ONLY HAVE 518,000 AND INCOME. OPERATING FOR OPERATING COSTS. RIGHT SO THAT LEAVES A DEFICIT WHICH YOU GUYS TAKE FROM THE CAP HAVE TO TAKE FROM THE CAPITAL FUNDS. SO THAT IS A ED THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE CHALLENGE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. AND I DID A LITTLE BIT OF MATH AND IT CAME OUT TO LIKE $7800 PER UNIT IN COST. AND OH, SO. AND I DON'T AND BE HONEST WITH ALL OF THE RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO THE HOOD RULES AND THE PROCUREMENT RULES OF AS A BUSINESS PERSON. I ALWAYS TRY TO THINK. HOW CAN I CUT COSTS, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO FEDERAL STATE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT RULES. ALL IT DOES IS DRIVE UP THE COST. AND SO IT IS. I KNOW WHAT A CHALLENGE THAT IT IS FOR YOU GUYS. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU GUYS HAD SO MANY UNITS IN YOUR FORT PIERCE HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT WAS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE BUT IT BUT IT DOES. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING . YOU ALL DO APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU GUYS FACE EACH AND EVERY DAY. UM AND I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS RIGHT NOW. UM AND I'M YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND IT DOES SURPRISE ME. NOT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE MARKET IS, BUT THAT MORE PEOPLE WE HAD A HOME AT ONE TIME THAT WE HAD ON SECTION EIGHT, AND IT WAS GREAT. WE GOT TO CHECK EVERY MONTH. AND AS A LANDLORD, THAT'S WHAT I CARE ABOUT AND THEY HAD TO DO A FEW THINGS, WHICH WAS TO GET IT READY TO BE HOW TO PROVE SECTION EIGHT APPROVED, BUT THEY WEREN'T THERE WAS MAKING SURE LOCKS AND WINDOWS WORKED IN SOME REALLY MINOR STUFF. AND, UM SO WE WERE WE WERE PRETTY SATISFIED WITH WITH THAT, AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF I HAD APPROPRIATE HOME . SO IT WAS. IT'S NOT A NOT A PROBLEM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE SEE IT. THEY SEE AS A STIGMA, I THINK AS A LANDLORD, BUT. WIRED. RIGHT? NO. YOU KNOW? IF YOU MAINTAIN YOUR HOME, YOU KNOW THE HOMES I'VE OWNED FOR RENTALS. WE'VE ALWAYS MAINTAINED AT A HIGH LEVEL ANYWAY, SO BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE LONG TERM INVESTMENT, I DON'T WANT THEM FALLING APART AND SO OH, AND, UM , AND WHEN THE ECONOMY IS REALLY BAD. THAT HAVING PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD YEAH, EXACTLY. SO, UM AH , BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS, I GUESS, BUT THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE AGAIN EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO. BYE. YEAH.
EXCELLENT MR BARTELL. YES, DEFINITELY. WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT TO STUART HOUSING AUTHORITY. I DIDN'T HAVE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DIDN'T HAVE A WEBSITE AND WE'D MAKE SURE BASED ON THE SPECIAL DISTRICT ACCOUNTABILITY PROGRAM, WHICH ARE FROM NOW YOU'RE WITH, BUT TO REQUIREMENT WE MADE UP TO THE MIC SHIRT. WE MADE SURE STRAIGHT HOUSING AUTHORITY WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT WEBSITE. SO DUELING UTILIZED THE WEBSITE. THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND OBVIOUSLY, ONCE AGAIN TO EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY REACH OUT TO US WERE AVAILABLE FOR EVERY NEED. YOU HAVE OR JUST WANT TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE RESIDENTS WERE THERE. JUST WE HAND THEM OUT PERSONALLY TO THE RESIDENTS . WHEN ARE YOUR EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETINGS OR YOUR BOARD MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? WE ARE SUNSHINE. CORRECT OK, WHEN IS THAT WE HAVEN'T AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO IT'S EVERY OTHER MONTH. THAT YOU'LL SEE IN EVERY BOARD PACKET IS ON. MHM AND IT'S AT 10 30. EVERY BOARD PACKET IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. YOU CAN CALL IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, SO YOU CAN COME IN PERSON OR YOU CAN ZOOM IN. WE STILL HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY BECAUSE WE DO WANT THE TRANSPARENCY AND AVAILABILITY TO COME IN AND ZOOM IN CALL. SO FEEL FREE TO JOIN US AT ANY TIME AND THOSE MEETINGS ARE ON YOUR ON YOUR WEBSITE. CORRECT. MHM YES, THE NOTICES ON THERE. SO IT'S THE SAME COLIN INFORMATION. LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN CALL IN ZOOM IN OR COME IN PERSON. AND JOIN US. WHAT IS YOUR NAME? MA'AM NANCY JOHNSON, NANCY JOHNSON. AND YOU'RE HEIDI LAVOY. THANK YOU. WELL, WE THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WE WELCOME YOU TO COME MORE OFTEN, AND WE
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WORK. LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US. MOVING ON NOW. WE HAVE COMMENTS
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BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. MR BRUNER HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR COMMISSIONER CLARK. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND OLIVER COMMISSIONERS FOR COMING OUT ON SATURDAY TO THE UNITY RALLY THAT WAS SPONSORED BY THE CPI. AND. ALSO FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, WHO COMMENTED. AT THE JOINT CITY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. I THINK IT WAS JUNE 2ND. THINK A LOT OF COMMENTS CAME FROM THE CITY OF STEWART WITH REGARD TO HOUSING, AND I WANT US TO SEE WITH THE SERIOUS STEWART THAT WE FIND A WAY TO GET BACK WITH COMMISSIONER CAMPY AND WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTY, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN BE THE FORCE THAT PUSHES ALONG SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO AFFORDABLE HALLS IN ATTAINABLE HOUSING, MAYBE UP FINDING A WAY TO UPDATE AND TO PUT SOME SPECIFIC THINGS IN OUR HOUSING POLICIES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S LIKE 50 OTHER THINGS THAT I DISCUSSED WITH CITY MANAGER BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THEM RIGHT NOW, AND I LEFT MY PAPER. BUT WHENEVER HE MAKES HIS COMMENTS, HE'LL BRING UP SOMETHING. NOT THE 50 THINGS. WELL, VICE MAYOR. YEAH NOT MUCH. TODAY. JUST, UM LAST WEEK. WE HAD A HECK OF A RAINSTORM, AND I'VE GOT NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS ABOUT FLOODING AROUND THE CITY.I I'VE TALKED TO HAVE TALKED TO CITY STAFF ABOUT IT, BUT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM FOR THE WHOLE CITY, AND, UM AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HERE HOPEFULLY SOON PRIORITIZING SOME PROJECTS. UM, BUT AS OUR AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AGES, AND, UH AND I WOULD GUESS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF SEA LEVEL RISE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE MAYBE SOME OTHER CLIMATE ISSUES GOING TO SEE MORE OF THIS, UM THIS IS THE MOST FLOODING I'VE SEEN ON A REGULAR BASIS IN THE REST 20 YEARS OF LIVING HERE IN STUART, SO, UH, WE DO ARE SEEING SOME OF THAT AND ISOLATED AREAS. NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS UM IT TAKES A PRETTY EXTREME EVENT. I THINK WE HAD, LIKE, SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN AND LIKE AN HOUR AND IT DRAINS STILL DRAINS PRETTY FAST. BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE I HAD. I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW FAST MY POOL OVERFLOWED. IT RAINED SO HARD. AND UH IN A AND THEY'RE ALSO NEVER SEEN SO MUCH LIGHTNING OR HAIL AS I SAW THE OTHER DAY, SO THIS STORM WAS PRETTY PRETTY INTENSE. SO BUT BESIDES THAT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS. I THINK WE MAY HAVE HEARD THERE WAS AN F WC OFFICER KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT. YEAH. UP IN FORT PIERCE RECENTLY AND, UH. KEEP HIM IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AS FAMILY. BUT THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE EVERYDAY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. FIREFIGHTERS ALL FACE DANGER EVERY DAY AND SOME OF IT IS JUSTICE COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT, BUT WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WATCHING OUT FOR ALL OF THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO JUST TOUCH BASE ON WITH ALL MY COMMISSIONER. WE HAD COUPLE OF FAIRLY IMPORTANT MEETINGS OR TOURS OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS. AND AS YOU TOUCHED ON VICE MAYOR JUNE 1ST CAME AND WENT AND RIGHT TO COINCIDE WITH THE OFFICIAL START OF HURRICANE SEASON IN THE WET SEASON HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA, SO DID THE RAINS. UM TALK ABOUT LAKE OKEECHOBEE. IT'S NOW AT A LITTLE OVER 13 FT.
PRIOR TO THE START OF THE WET SEASON, WE GOT DOWN TO ABOUT 12.6 FT. WE WERE BEFORE ALL THE RAINS ABOUT A QUARTER FOOT AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. NOW WE'RE. NOT QUITE WELL, ABOUT A HALF A FOOT THIS DAY OF WHERE WE ARE WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR, THE RAINS DIDN'T COME AS ON TIME AS THEY DID THIS YEAR. BUT AS INTERESTED AS I AM AND TALKING ABOUT THE LAKE, I GOT THE PLEASURE TO DO SO WITH SOME HIGHER UPS OF THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. LAST THURSDAY, THE CITY OF STEWART HOSTED BRIGADIER GENERAL JASON KELLY. IS THAT COMMANDER. THE
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ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS SOUTH ATLANTIC DISTRICT. THIS IS ABOUT EIGHT STATES IN THE U. S INCLUDING THE CARIBBEAN, PUERTO RICO AND PARTS OF CENTRAL AMERICA. UM. WE HOSTED HIM AND ONE OF HIS SUBORDINATES COLONEL JAMES BOOTH. WHO IS THE COMMANDER OF THE JACKSONVILLE DISTRICT HERE? WHO'S INTEGRALLY? UM. INVOLVED IN AND RUNNING. THE NEW LOW SOME LAKE OKEECHOBEE MANAGEMENT PLAN. HOW HE TOOK THEM FOR A BOAT RIDE. AFTER A BRIEF LUNCH HERE, UM THREE BOATS, AND WE DISCUSSED YOU KNOW? THE PERSPECTIVE OF RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF STEWART AND FLOODING OVERALL CLIMATE CHANGE FLOWS FROM LAKE OKEECHOBEE, THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEY'RE DOING. AND YOU KNOW NEITHER. GENERAL KELLY NORTH COLONEL BOOTH HAD SEEN OUR SOUTHFORK. OR YOU KNOW, CITY OF STEWART DOCKS BY BOAT. AND I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT JUST TO SHOW THAT THE TOP LEADERS AND DECISION MAKERS THE PERSPECTIVE OF CITY RESIDENTS AND HOW WE FEEL EACH SUMMER, AND IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO DO THAT AND NON CRISIS SITUATION AND TO TRY AND BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. SO I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO HELPED OFFICER JOE HOGAN WAS THERE RUNNING THE STUART PD BOAT. WE HAD CAPTAIN MIKE HOLIDAY, REPRESENTING CAPTAINS FOR CLEAN WATER RUNNING HIS BOAT. AND JIM MOYER, OUR LOCAL INDIAN RIVER KEEPER, CAPTAIN. ABOUT ONE OF HIS BOOKS. UM YEAH. YES, YOU DID. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.BRING THAT UP. THAT WAS IN MY NOTES TO JUST MENTIONED, BUT GOVERNOR DE SANTIS HAD A MEETING DOWN IN MIAMI, AND HE VETOED SENATE BILL 25. OH, EIGHT, WHICH WHICH WE AS A COMMISSION.
SUPPORTED HIS LET ME CALL IT A THREAT TO VETO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OF SENATE BILL 25. OH EIGHT, AND EVEN AS IT WAS REWRITTEN, IT STILL WOULD HAVE HARMED. FRANKLY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FLEXIBILITY TO DO AND USE THEIR VENTURE BEST INTEREST IN MANAGING THE LAKE FOR PERFORMERS ENVIRONMENT. SO I WANT. TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRUNER AND THANK GOVERNOR FOR SAYING IT'S FOR HIS DECISION. UM, TO PRIORITIZE OUR ENVIRONMENT. MHM. SO BESIDES. FRESHWATER DISCHARGES AND TOO MUCH WATER IN OUR ESTUARY. UM ANOTHER HOT TOPIC ON A RIVER IS BRIGHT LINE IN THE RAILROAD BRIDGE. AND RECENTLY CONGRESSMAN MAST ORGANIZED MEETING HERE IN THE CITY CHAMBERS WITH A LOT OF, UM LEADERS OF THE MARINE INDUSTRY. UM AS WELL AS SOME CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND BRIGHT LINE. AND AS WE'VE BEEN URGING BRIGHT LINE TO COME UP WITH PLANS FOR A NEW RAISED RAILROAD BRIDGE THAT WAS. ONE OF THE MEANS WERE BRIGHT LINE, TALKED ABOUT THAT BRIDGE AS IT COMPARES TO OUR AGED SINGLE TRACK BRIDGE , AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT BRIDGE IS THE ONLY SINGLE TRACK SPAN.
BETWEEN THEIR PALM BEACH TO ORLANDO ROUTE, WHICH THEY PLAN TO BE RUNNING. PASSENGER TRAINS IN 2023. THEIR PLAN PROPOSED. A NEW BRIDGE DOUBLE TRACK, THEY'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF STEWART AS WELL AS ALL STATE AGENCIES AND FEDERAL AGENCIES TO SUCCEED IN THAT AND IF EVERYTHING GOES PERFECTLY SMOOTHLY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH GOVERNMENT.
IF EVERYTHING DOES GO PERFECTLY SMOOTHLY, WE'D HAVE AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE OF ABOUT FIVE YEARS. SO THAT'S A FOUR YEAR GAP. WITH BRIGHT LINE MOVING ACROSS THE EXISTING SINGLE TRACK BRIDGE. AND THE PROPOSED NEW BRIDGE. THE BENEFIT, THOUGH OF THAT NEW BRIDGES IT WOULD BE 16 FT ABOVE HIGH WATER. THAT WOULD ALLOW ANY BOAT THAT CAN GO UNDER THE EXISTING ROOSEVELT DRAWBRIDGE, WHICH HAS A CLEARANCE OF 14 FT. TO BE ABLE TO GO UNDER THE WRITTEN NEW RAIL BRIDGE WHEN IT'S IN THE DOWNWARD POSITION. THE OTHER BENEFIT IS THE INCREASED SPAN. OPENING OF THAT THE PROPOSED RAIL BRIDGE, WHICH IS 90 FT, SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER THAN THE CURRENT SPAN, SO IT ALLOWS MORE BOATS TO SAFELY PASSED SIDE BY SIDE. I BRING ALL THIS UP
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BECAUSE THE CITY OF STEWART HAS UNANIMOUSLY WITH ALL OUR COMMISSIONERS SUPPORTED A NEW IMPROVED RAIL BRIDGE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OPEN COMMENT PERIOD. THAT THE U. S. COAST GUARD IS UNDERTAKING ON THE OPERATIONS OF THE RAIL BRIDGE CURRENT RAIL BRIDGE AS IT STANDS. THAT OPEN COMMENT PERIOD RIGHT NOW, COZ TILL JULY, 5TH IT'S A FEDERALLY REQUIRED OPEN COMMENT PERIOD IN WHICH THE COAST GUARD IT'S GOING TO TAKE COMMENTS FROM ALL RESIDENTS. IN THEIR THOUGHTS AND HOW IT IMPACTS THEM. HOW THAT BRIDGES OPERATED. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A MORE EQUITABLE OPERATION AND BALANCE BETWEEN MARITIME VESSELS AND RAIL. AND EQUITABLE TO ME. AND TOO MANY OTHERS WOULD MEAN FOR EXAMPLE. 30 MINUTES. OPEN 30 MINUTES, CLOSED BALANCE , OR PERHAPS 60 MINUTES OPEN AND EVERY TWO HOURS. THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ST LUCIE WATERWAY. CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED. AND THE FEAR OF THAT SINGLE TRACK BRIDGE THAT CURRENTLY ONLY HAS A HEIGHT OF SIX FT. ABOVE THE WATER RIGHT NOW, PROHIBITING ALMOST 95% OF ALL VOTES TO GO UNDER IT WHEN IT'S IN THE DOWN POSITION. IS ASTRONOMICAL, REALLY? NO. OUR WATERWAY IS THE ONLY CROSS FLORIDA WATERWAY IN THE STATE. MEANING ANY BOAT COMING FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO THAT WANTS TO GET TO THE ATLANTIC HAS THE OPTION OF OUR WATERWAY. OR TO GO AROUND THE KEYS. THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT DURING EMERGENCY TIMES WHEN A HURRICANE IS COMING UPON US. SO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WE ALL HAVE BEFORE US. I ASKED AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY MANAGER DAVID DIES AND THEN HOGARTH. TO DRAFT CITY OF STEWART'S COMMENTS TO THE COAST GUARD PERTAINING. NOT ONLY TO THE NEW BRIDGE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO THE OPERATIONS AND OUR GOAL FOR EQUITABLE OPERATION. I THINK IT'S MOST IMPACTFUL IF WE ALL AS A UNITED COMMISSION. SUBMIT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE COAST GUARD. UH HUH. AND ALSO IF. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES OR OBJECTIONS, WE MAKE OUR COMMENTS AND STANCE PUBLIC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, PUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND ENCOURAGE ALL THOSE IMPACTED. TO COMMENT. AND SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THE COAST GUARD BEFORE JULY. 5TH. THE OPEN, FRANK DISCUSSION, AND I JUST WANT TO ASK. I MEAN THAT THAT BRIDGES OLD FRIDAY. TRAIN WAS BLOCKING. YEAH AFRAID CHAIN BLOCKED. I THINK ALMOST EVERY INTERSECTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. WOW. MHM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT. I THINK THAT WHAT I DO THINK IS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY SINCE WE HAVE UNTIL THE FIFTH OF JULY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING. I SUPPORT DOING THE COMMENTS AND I THINK WE SHOULD, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. JUST BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN. EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO READ AND DIGEST. FIRST AND OFFER THE COMMENTS. THE STAFF SO THAT. YEAH COMMISSIONER MEYER AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN, UH , MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS THEY'RE ALL OF THE DOCUMENT AS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN, AND THAT'S STILL WILL GIVE US ABOUT TWO WEEKS, ALMOST TWO FULL WEEKS PRIOR TO THE WEEK AND A HALF ANYWAYS, PRIOR TO THE DUE DATE. I HAVE FULLY SUPPORT THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF EVOLVING LATELY. THAT'S HOW I KNOW. UM CITY MANAGER HAS EMAILED. ALL OF US. TO DO THEIR WORKING DRAFTS.UM WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE US TO DO IS BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME. SPREAD THE WORD ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THE OMEN, OPEN COMMENT PERIOD. AND STRESS. THE TWO POINTS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO STRESS WAS JUST WE WANT A BALANCE OF EQUITABLE OPERATIONS BETWEEN AH MARITIME AND RAILROAD. AND. YOU KNOW THAT BALANCE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE EXAMPLES I GAVE, YOU KNOW, OPEN AND CLOSED 30 MINUTES AN HOUR OR YOU KNOW, 60 MINUTES FOR EVERY TWO HOURS TO STRIKE THAT EQUAL BALANCE AND THEN TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY. AS FAR AS THE ONLY
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CROSS FLORIDA WATERWAY AND REALLY JUST JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GET ALL OUR RESIDENTS AND BEYOND. TO MAKE THEIR OWN COMMENTS TO THE COAST GUARD. AND THEN ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME. TO SUBMIT ARE WRITTEN COMMENTS UNTIL IT CAN BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS WITH DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS ADJUSTING. SO THERE'S NO NO ONE HAS ANY ISSUE WITH US PUTTING IT OUT THERE. JUST JUST BRING THIS BACK AS AN AGENDA. ITEM THE LETTER ITSELF, OKAY? PERFECT. AND. THAT I THINK WE HAVE[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]
COMMENTS BY OUR CITY MANAGER. OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. VICE MAYOR MCDONALD'S STOLE HALF MY THUNDER ON THE STORMWATER STUFF. UM OKAY, SO JUST I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER CLARK DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY THIS, BUT THE AIRPORT ADVISORY WILL BE HERE THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY TO TALK ABOUT THE 60 D N L. MM DURING THAT TIME WE DISCUSSED ABOUT BRINGING THAT COMMISSIONER MCDONALD ASKED THAT I PUT OUT TO THE COMMISSION THE PREVIOUS TIME THAT THIS CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, WHICH I HAVE DONE, SO YOU GUYS SHOULD HOLD OFF. PERHAPS YOU CAN GET THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. WHEN IT CAME OUT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION THE FIRST TIME AROUND. BRIGHT LINE WILL ALSO BE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAIN BRIDGE ISSUES. SO IF ANYONE FROM THE COMMUNITIES INTERESTED, THAT WOULD BE A TIME TO TUNE IN. UM AND THEN HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP COMING UP ON THE 20TH OF THIS MONTH AT FOUR O'CLOCK HERE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. AND JUST AS THE STORM WATER. I THINK COMMISSIONER MCDONALD STATED THAT IT WAS 4.5 INCHES WITHIN A 60 MINUTE TIME PERIOD, WHICH PUTS IT AT THE 100 YEAR REIGN COUNT. BUT THE ONE OR TWO OF THE THINGS THAT WE PRIMARY LOOK AT DURING THESE STORMS IS WHAT STRUCTURES THAT ENCROACHES ON AND HOW FAST DOES IT DRAIN? OR IS IT DRAINING? OR IS IT STANDING STAGNANT AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT OUR MASTER STORMWATER PLAN. WE'RE MASSAGING A LITTLE BIT BASED ON MILTON AND HIS CREWS OBSERVATIONS IN THE FIELD. I HAD TO RE PRIORITIZE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS BASED ON THAT RECENT RAIN. WE HAVE TWO OF THEM THAT HAVE ALREADY PRE DESIGNED AND WE ARE PLACING FUNDING THROUGH, UM AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, FUNDING AND OUR NEXT FISCAL CYCLE, AND WE PLAN TO DO SOME MORE DESIGN WORK AND REQUEST FUNDING BOTH FROM GRANTS AND FROM APPROPRIATION REQUESTS FROM THE STATE THROUGH NEXT YEAR FOR TO RESOLVE SOME OF OUR STORM WATER ISSUES. THAT WE'RE SEEING. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. UM COMMISSIONER BEFORE US. WE HAVE[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
AN AGENDA OF EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. TONIGHT'S BUSINESS AGENDA. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ON THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. HEARING NONE. HAVE IT ALL IN FAVOR. I MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW WE HAVE[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (3 Minutes Max.)]
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM. YES, WE DO. HAVE BRIAN, GO SELL.GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU GUYS? MY NAME IS RYAN GASOL. I'M A RESIDENT OF STEWART IN A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN THE CITY. LAST WEEK, MARTIN COUNTY VOTED ON ORDINANCE TO BAN THE RETAIL SALE OF DOGS, CATS AND RABBITS. THIS DECISION WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT MY BUSINESS FLAGS ABOUT YOU AND HOW I MAKE A LIVING. I BELIEVE THIS ISN'T WHAT DECISION WAS MADE BY THE COUNTY. WITHOUT THEM DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. I RECEIVED NO NOTICE ABOUT THIS DECISION. NOR WAS I GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MY BUSINESS PRACTICES AND ALL THE STEPS I HAVE IN PLACE TO GUARANTEE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF MY PETS. I HAVE A LOCAL STEWART VETERINARIAN WHO HAS BEEN IN PRACTICE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. DR DIAMOND FROM BOULEVARD ANIMAL HOSPITAL WHO DOES HEALTH EXAMS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF MY PETS ON A WEEKLY BASIS. I SENT EACH PET HOME WITH A CONTAGIOUS AND GENETIC HEALTH GUARANTEE. DR DIAMOND WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TO THESE MEANING, BUT I HAVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION ON HIS BEHALF. IT HAD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. MANY STORIES OF PEOPLE BEING SCANNED ON THE INTERNET AND FAMILIES LOOKING FOR CERTAIN BREEDS THAT WERE HYPOALLERGENIC AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND WHAT THEY WANTED FOR THEIR FAMILY'S NEEDS. I TRULY CARE ABOUT EACH OF THE PETS THAT I COME TO MY STORE, AND I AM PROUD THAT I CAN BRING MY EXPERIENCE WITH PETS AND KNOWLEDGE OF BREEDS HELP FAMILIES DECIDE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM. THIS DECISION AFFECTS ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE PERSONALLY GUARANTEED FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH MY LANDLORD. I HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO ACHIEVE THIS GENE AND CHANGE THE PERCEPTION OF PET STORES. I ASKED. YOU TAKE ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND COME TO MY STORE RAGS ABOUT YOU AND SEE HOW I CONDUCT MY BUSINESS.
TALK TO THE PEOPLE OF CITY. THE PEOPLE OF STEWART, WHO HAD FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH ME BEFORE YOU ACCEPT THIS BAN. THANK YOU, FOR YOUR TIME PUTS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS IS ABOUT YOU. LOOKING. THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIX. POSITIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OF
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ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YES, NEXT. WE HAVE ALETHEA WILEY. GOOD EVENING, MR WYLER. YEAH. WELL AH! GOOD AT ME. I'M TIRED. UM. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK MUCH. I REALLY, REALLY DON'T. I MEAN, DON'T ACTIVELY GET INVOLVED AND TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, BUT FOR SOME REASON. FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, MY HEART HAS BEEN HEAVY. AND THIS MORNING GETTING UP. COULDN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP AT THREE O'CLOCK BECAUSE MY HEART WAS HEAVY BECAUSE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. SO I GOT UP EARLY GOT DRESSED. AND WANTED TO JUST REALLY BRING AWARENESS TO THAT FLORIDA STREET. AND DIXIE HIGHWAY. THAT IS TRAGEDY. WAITING TO HAPPEN. SERIOUSLY. AND FOR SOME REASON. I'M GOING TO SAY THE LORD JUST WOULD NOT LET ME REST UNTIL I ACTUALLY GOT UP AND FILMED. IT WENT OUT THERE STOOD UP, STOOD THERE AND WATCHED FOR MYSELF. I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO REALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME THIS REALLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU GO OUT THERE IF YOU MAKE IT IF YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO GO OUT THERE YOURSELF AND JUST STAND THERE.UM AND SEE THE DANGER BECAUSE OF THE NARROWING OF THAT ROAD AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT IS REALLY NISOUR. I MEAN, WHOEVER JUST DECIDED DESTROY THOSE. THOSE POLLS UP THERE. IT'S AN EYESORE.
I MADE IT MY BUSINESS TO TODAY. TO GO AND DRIVE THROUGH MARTIN COUNTY TO EACH RAILROAD INTERSECTION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ALL THE WAY UP TO ST LUCIE COUNTY. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. THAT IS RIDICULOUS SKYLINE. THERE'S NO JENSEN, WHERE I GREW UP IN THERE IS NO I MEAN, THEY DID TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY FROM JOHNSON. BUT STILL YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT INTERSECTION. BECAUSE YOU. ARE GOING TO HAVE. I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER RACE. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF A LIFE OR SEVERAL LIVES HAS TAKEN THEN WHAT PLEASE DO SOMETHING. PLEASE DO SOMETHING. HAVE BRIGHT LINE COMEBACK, REDO IT OR WHATEVER, WITHOUT $71.75 BILLION, BUT WE CAN'T LET THE CITY WE CANNOT LET THE RESIDENTS OF STIRRUP UM YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T LEAVE THEM HANGING LIKE THAT. PLEASE DO SOMETHING. YOUR YOUR YOUR OWN VEHICLES. THE CITY DUMPSTER COULD NOT EVEN GET THROUGH IT. HE HAD TO WAIT. 10 MINUTES. FOR CLEARANCE TO CROSS OVER AND THEN ANOTHER DUMP TRUCK WAS COMING AFTER AFTER THAT, AND ANOTHER CAR WAS COMING OPPOSITE WAY THAT CAR HAD TO BACK UP. THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ROOM FOR ERROR. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR AT THAT AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING, NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT GREAT TRAGEDY ON YOUR HAND. DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO THE RESIDENT. YEAH. I GOT PICTURES. I WAS OUT THERE. I'M TIRED. I'M REALLY AM, BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS. WHEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING FOR IT. I WAS IN A TREE. SET WAY BACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO OVER THE TRACK AND YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU. YOU IT DOESN'T CHANGE. UNDER. MAYBE WE CAN SIT. MILTON WHATEVER, JUST WATCH IT AND JUST LOOK AT IT. HOLD ON WHAT'S GOING ON? OKAY, OKAY. I HAVE A RESPONSE.
SO MILTON HAVE ALREADY SPOKE. I SPOKE WITH MISS WILEY ABOUT THIS. ON SATURDAY. I WENT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION MYSELF. IT'S HORRIBLE. UM, SO MILTON AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE ARRANGING A MEETING ON SITE WITH BRIGHT LINE UM AND FCC , AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTACT THE COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AS WELL TO BE ON SITE. UM PRIMARILY, WE FEEL PROBABLY THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY ADDED THE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH WAS NEVER THERE BEFORE, WHICH TOOK AWAY FROM SOME OF THE ROADWAY ACCESS IN THERE. AND THEN BY CREATING THE CURB ON THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT CREATES A HAZARD OF DRIVING OVER TOP OF THE CURVE AND HAVING THE CURVE UNDERNEATH THE CAR. AND SO THERE'S GOT TO BE. THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY. EVEN IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THE SIDEWALK AWAY FROM ONE OF THE TWO SIDES IN ORDER TO GIVE THE WIDTH BACK TO THE ROAD. AND THEY CREATED THAT BECAUSE THEY CREATED THAT DEAD END ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD AND THOUGHT THAT THEY NEEDED A SIDEWALK CONNECTION THERE, BUT
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THEY DON'T NECESSARILY THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEY COULD JUST DO WITH A CURVE ALONG THE CIRCLE AND THE REASON THAT THAT HAPPENED WAS WE WERE. IT WAS EITHER THAT INTERSECTION GETS CLOSED BY FCC OR WE CREATE THAT THAT ROUNDABOUT IN THE IN THE INTERSECTION GETS TO STAY OPEN ONLY TWO CHOICES. AND SO WE FELT THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY GET BEAT UP EVEN MORE BY THE COMMUNITY. IF WE CLOSE THE INTERSECTION COMPLETELY, SO WE ACTED THIS WAY . BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEY WERE TAKING ACTUALLY PART OF THE ROADWAY TO CREATE THE SIDEWALK PIECE OF IT, SO WE ARE GOING TO MEETING OUT INSIGHT ON SITE THERE SHORTLY TO REVISIT AND TRY TO GET THAT FIXED. HERE. GOOD CITIZEN. I DON'T I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE STUDIO. WE'VE NEVER YOU'RE THERE ALL THE TIME. I'M JUST THERE ALL THE TIME, BUT YOU KNOW YOU GOT THAT'S A BUSY PEDESTRIAN WAY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN LET ALONE THE PEOPLE THE YOUNG MAN THAT CAME IN A WHEELCHAIR AND WHEELCHAIR, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR ERROR. WE UNDERSTAND AHEAD, VICE MAN, YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT THAT INTERCESSION BECAUSE I WAS TALKING WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE ABOUT IT JUST FRIDAY. I THINK, UM, IS THERE IS A SIGN THEY PUT UP TRADES IN EXCESS OF 80 MPH. AND I AM. TERRIFIED AND I'VE BEEN TERRIFIED SINCE 2014 WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT RIGHT LINE , WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN WE HAVE TRAINS GOING THROUGH MARTIN COUNTY IN PARTS OF THE COUNTY AT 100 AND 10 MILES AN HOUR? THROUGH PARTS OF STEWART, UH, AT 80 TO 110 MILES AN HOUR AND YEAH, THEY DO. SLOW DOWN. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SLOW DOWN WHEN THEY GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN STUART. SOME BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE BECAUSE OF THE TURNS IN RIAU. BUT BUT THE CLOSURE RATE ON A TRAIN DOING 110. MILES AN HOUR IS JUST OVER EIGHT SECONDS FOR A QUARTER OF A MILE. AND CHILDREN CAN WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. IN FACT, I TALKED TO THE CHIEF ABOUT, UM, MAYBE WHAT? WE COULD LOOK AT US FOR OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS AT THE REC CENTER IS DOING SOME EDUCATION REGARDING TRAINS TO KEEP. KIDS OFF THE TRACKS BECAUSE A YOUNG KID IS NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY SEE THAT LIGHT WAY DOWN THERE THAT IN LESS THAN 10 SECONDS, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE AND BEING OUT THERE. HOW MANY OF YOUR RESIDENTS WALK OVER TO WA WA'S? EXACTLY WELL, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. IT'S A IT'S A SERIOUS IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM , AND WE ALL WE ALL KNOW IT AND WE ALL ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE ALL WORKING ON IT. UM IT'S BEEN A UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SAY, WE HAVE SOME BUT THE YOU KNOW THE RAILROAD. IT'S THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING THEY WANT. WE'RE AND WE WORK ON IT, AND WE WORK ON IT AND WE WORK ON IT. WORLD KEEP AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON IT. SO TELL US WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, THEN TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION.WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE THE CITY OF STEWART'S LIMITS DUET. ON ON BRIGHT LINE. LET ME BE CLEAR. THE CITY OF STEWART IS NOT THRILLED AT ALL.
THAT BRIGHT LINE IS GOING TO BE RUNNING THROUGH OUR TOWN. BUT IT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAID. SOME OF THE OPTIONS. WE WERE FORCED TO DECIDE BETWEEN OUR A CROSSING CLOSURE OR WORKING WITH THEM TO KEEP THE CROSSING OPEN. AND THAT'S NOT JUST FLORIDA STREET.
THAT IS EVERY SINGLE CROSSING THAT THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY OWNS THROUGHOUT MARTIN COUNTY, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KEY WEST. IT IS THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S THE ROCK AND HARD PLACE THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITIES PINCHED BETWEEN SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE MISCONSTRUED OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE WORKING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WITH BRIGHT LINE. IN OUR TOP PRIORITIES, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY OF EVERY INTERSECTION. INCLUDING THE BRIDGE, BUT EVERY SINGLE INTERSECTION AND OUR STAFF. IS WELL AWARE. THAT THAT FLORIDA STREET IS NOT. CURRENTLY UP TO THE CITY OF STEWART STANDARDS. BUT WE HAVE SENT OUT. CALLS FOR HELP TO HIRE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE NUMEROUS OTHER THINGS. WE ARE NOT THRILLED THAT BRIGHT LINE IS COMING THROUGH OUR TOWN. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. TO STOP IT. IN MIRROR. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M I'M JUST PLEADING THAT YOU JUST DO. THE BEST THAT YOU CAN FOR THE RESIDENTS. BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING TO YOU FOR THEIR SAFETY, THE UNDERSTAND, UM, BRIGHT LINE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND AT NIGHT, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, THE CITY IN THE CITY IN THE CITY, AND THEY LET IT HAPPEN. SO PLEASE, PLEASE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THESE REFS. BACK
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IN 2000 AND 14 BRIGHT LINE CAME IN WITH ITS INITIAL PLAN, AND THAT WAS TOO CLOSE FORWARD TO ALTOGETHER. AND I KNOW THAT SAM AMERSON SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THEM. NEGOTIATING AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO OPEN FLORIDA BECAUSE THEIR INITIAL PLAN AND THEIR INITIAL DESIGN WAS TO SIMPLY CLOSE THAT INTERSECTION ALTOGETHER. SO WHEN WE GIVE THEM PUSH BACK THINK THEY FALL BACK ON. OKAY. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE SHOULD JUST CLOSE THAT CROSSING. AND SO IT'S A IT'S A BALANCE THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN WORKING ON AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH TIM. UM TO GET IT, OR I THINK MILTON TO GET IT. STRAIGHTENED OUT AND I'M SURE THEY'LL WORK IT OUT AND FIGURE IT OUT. BUT IT IS IT'S THEY DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE IT. SO WE'RE WORKING TO TRY AND KEEP IT OPEN FOR AND I NORMALLY WE DON'T HAVE THIS DISCOURSE WITH YOU OR THE PUBLIC DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR MILTON LEG HAS BEEN SO GOOD IN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WORKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE IT BUT YOU ARE BRINGING UP SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT THAT 10 SECONDS RULE THING. 10 5 ANY AMOUNT OF SECONDS WE'VE SEEN WHERE BRIGHT LINE IS ACTIVE DOWN SOUTH, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY'RE COMING THROUGH HERE TWO TIMES A DAY OR WEEK OR SOMETHING, AND THEY'RE TESTERS THE TEST SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE BUT I LAST SAW ONE ON SATURDAY COMING THROUGH ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY ACCIDENTS AND INCIDENTS IS DOWN SOUTH BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT REALIZATION, AND PROBABLY WHEN THEY COME TO US. WE NEED TO ASK THEM WHATEVER PUBLIC SERVICING THAT THEY HAVE. THAT THEY DOUBLET TRIPLET. WHATEVER IT IS FOR US, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STOP WHERE THEY'RE SLOWING DOWN . THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WORK WITH US AND FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR WHAT? BEFORE THEY START RUNNING IN FULL GET THAT PUBLIC SERVICE OUT THERE AND GET IT OUT TO COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY TRAVERSE THE RAILROAD TRACK ALL THE TIME, AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THOSE DEATHS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT EVERY DAY DOWN SOUTH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU, MISS WILEY FOR BRINGING TO OUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. UH THANK YOU, MR LEGGETT. OTHER PROBLEMS. PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE SOMEONE ZOOM. GWENDOLYN HALL, BRINKLEY. MISS BRINKLEY. CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN THERE. AND GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. I'VE BASICALLY GOT ON COMMENT. UM ON WHAT FIELD WAS TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE RAILROAD CROSSING. UM AND THE. DANGER HAZARD THAT IT PRESENTS.BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT SHE HAS SAID THAT YOU'VE TAKEN IT INTO CONSIDERATION. UM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF BRIGHTON ONE COULDN'T MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY . MAYBE THEY NEED AND HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE. SOME OF OUR CONCERNS . NO WE DON'T WANT THE RURAL PROCESS CLOSE BECAUSE TEST IMPRINTS INTO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IN THE SAME TIME WE DO WANT IT TO BE SAFE. UM AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. SO I'M HOPING THAT SOME KIND OF A WAY THAT THAT CAN BE RECTIFIED BECAUSE, UM, LIKE, SHE SAYS. I LOOKED AT IT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I SAID THE FIRST PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE AN AFFECT THAT MAY BE AFFECTED WOULD BE THE CITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GUYS ARE COMING FROM CROSSTOWN INTO E STEWART, FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. WHEN THEY HIT THOSE COME ACROSS FLORIDA STREET, THEY COME ACROSS WIDE OPEN. AND THE CAR IS SITTING THERE. OKAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE. IT'S GONNA BE THE CITY OF STEWART RAN INTO THIS CAR. THAT WAS WAITING TO GO ACROSS A ONE A. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THAT CHILDREN AND EVERYTHING. UM, SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO A HAPPY MEDIUM. ALONG WITH BRIGHT LINE AND LET'S GET THAT SITUATION FIGURED OUT. I ALSO HEARD MS GOODRICH PRESENT. UH DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE GROIN OF THE BUSINESS INDUSTRY HERE IN STUART AND I THOUGHT THAT WHILE WE'RE EXPLORING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DROP BUSINESSES TO THE AREA WHICH, UM WHAT BRAIN I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN CONCENTRATE ENERGY ON BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THE COMMUNITY. NOW, I ALSO HEARD THE LADIES FROM THE CITY OF STEWART MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION. UNDER THE SAME TOKEN, MORE BUSINESS MEANS MORE HOUSING. IT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN PROBABLY AFFORD THE HIGHER
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HOUSING. BUT YOU'VE ALSO GOT THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE COMING TO WORK THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FORWARD THAT. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY OF STEWART WORKING, MAKING THEIR DOLLARS IN THE CITY OF STEWART. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK TO OTHER PLACES TO LIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE HOUSING. HERE IN THE CITY OF STEWART. SO THOSE THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, JOB OPPORTUNITIES ARE GREAT. THE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN WORK WHERE YOU LIVE AT, THEN YOUR MONEY IS NOT LEAVING YOUR CITY OR YOUR ACCOUNTING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND THAT WAS MY POINT OF VIEW. THAT'S JUST COULDN'T SHORT BECAUSE I KNOW HIM TO GET THREE MINUTES. AND I'M GONNA START RIGHT THERE. BUT I HOPE YOU GUYS TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MR FRANKLY. AS OUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED. THINK YOU SAID JULY 11TH. WE HAVE BRIGHT LINE. COMING TO OUR COMMISSION MEETING AND WE THANK THEM FOR COMING. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU. RIGHT? AND FLAMINGO BY AVENUE AT 10TH STREET, BAIL FLORIDA STREET 49 YEARS THAT'S MY ROUTE TO GET TO THE BANK PUBLICS. WHAT BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. IT'S A VERY POOR DESIGN ON THAT CORNER. ANOTHER THING BEING THAT. I'M I LIVE IN EAST. STEWART IS THE FACT WHEN THE HIGH MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS GET OUT THERE COME DOWN THAT AND OVER, SO YEAH, IT IT'S A VERY IT'S A BAD DESIGN CURVE AND YOU TWO CARS REALLY CAN'T MAKE IT THROUGH AT THE SAME TIME , AND I'M THERE IS THREE OR FOUR TIMES TODAY THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY ROAD. ALL OF US. GET THE SCHOOLS ST JOSEPH'S AND PARK AND THAT THE PARENTS, WE ALL USE IT BASEBALL FIELD UNDER SACRAL TEAM, BUT THANK YOU, AND I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER AND MR LEGGETT ARE LOVELY. MR ARE GOING TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN. FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OF US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR MCBRIDE. HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. COMMISSIONERS WE HAVE OUR[CONSENT CALENDAR]
CONSENT CALENDAR AGENDA. OF EMOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OR CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING NONE. MS KINDER WAY.PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER CLERK YES, MAYOR MCDONALD'S MATHESON. YES, COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND NOW WE
[8. STUART COURTHOUSE (ELIZABETH) UPUD (QUASI-JUDICIAL) (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2489-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A REZONING FROM URBAN CENTER (UC) TO URBAN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (UPUD), PROPERTY LOCATED AT 151 & 191 S.E. OCEAN BLVD, SAID LAND BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; ESTABLISHING THE STUART COURTHOUSE (ELIZABETH) UPUD CONSISTING OF FIFTY-SEVEN (57) RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 15,521 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE/COMMERCIAL USE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.07.00 OF THE STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; ALLOWING A DENSITY OF 29.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON A 1.06 ACRE SITE; APPROVING A FINAL SITE PLAN; PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS INCLUDING A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, DECLARING THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTANT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
HAVE ORDINANCE SECOND READING. STUART COURTHOUSE. ELIZABETH. U P U D THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL.THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER. 2489. DASH 2022. I WOULD ASK IF MR MARTEL COULD PLEASE READ THE ORDINANCE. IS ORDINANCE 2489-20 TO 2 IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART , FLORIDA, APPROVING A REZONING FROM URBAN CENTER TO URBAN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. OR U P U D. FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 151 AND 191 SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, SUDDEN LAND BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A ATTACHED ESTABLISHING THE STUART COURTHOUSE, ELIZABETH U P U D CONSISTING OF 57 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND 15,521 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE COMMERCIAL USE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO POINT OH 7.0 OF THE STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. ALLOWING THE DENSITY OF 29.7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON A ONE POINT OH SIX ACRE SITE APPROVING THE FINAL SITE PLAN PROVIDING FOR DEVELOPMENT OF CONDITIONS PREVENTING FOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, DECLARING THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERIC.
THE WRITING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU. AND BEFORE MR FREEMAN GIVES US AN UPDATE DO ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY EXPERT I COMMUNICATION? UM I HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANYONE REGARDING THIS PROJECT SINCE THE LAST MEETING, AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. I HAVE, AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. MIND. I HAVE SPOKEN TO STAFF SINCE THE LAST READING AND RESIDENTS AND I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. MR MARTEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE PLACE ANY POTENTIAL WITNESSES UNDER OATH? I SEE. THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE BEING SWORN. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH OF GOD? LET THE RECORD REFLECT THEY BOTH TESTIFIED AFFIRMATIVELY. THANK YOU. MR FREEMAN. WILL YOU PLEASE
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PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH A BRIEF SUMMARY SPECIFICALLY ANY CHANGES? THANK YOU. FIRST READING THANK YOU. MAYOR CHANGES IF THE COMMISSION RECALL THE FIRST READING THE COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER THE USE OF PERVIOUS PAVERS IN THE PARKING AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE RECEIVED AMENDED PLANS WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED OVER 13,000 SQUARE FEET OF PURPOSE PERVIOUS, PAVING TO THE PARKING LOT AREAS IN THE FORM OF FAVORS. AND THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE THANK YOU. DO ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THE MOMENT? NOW. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR TO THE AFRICA MR. HERNANDEZ, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TOUCHED. FOCUS ON THE CHANGES AND OTHER THAN THAT OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SURE FOR THE REQUEST THAT THE PREVIOUS FIRST READING. EXCUSE ME. UM WE. PUT ME ALL THE SURFACE PARKING AREA. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME. WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND MADE IT ALL BECAUSE I FIGURED IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE ALL ONE SURFACE IN THERE. AND AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SOME PAPERS AND SOME ASPHALT, SO BASICALLY EVERYTHING UNDER THE BUILDINGS THE PARKING BENEATH THE BUILDING'S LOBBY CONCRETE, BUT THEN ALL THE SERVICE PARKING ON THE SITE WILL BE PERFECT USERS. SO I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW. ASKING US TO DO AND I THINK MAYBE THEN SOME, SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD CHANGE. I THINK IT'LL BE AESTHETICALLY IT'LL BE PRETTY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AS WELL. WAS IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES OF IT, MAN. EXCELLENT. MINUTE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR HERNANDEZ. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION? WITH THE QUESTION. OH WELL, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE HEARING. AH OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPENED UP FOR A MOTION. PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE OUTLINED TODAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? MARK BREAKFAST TWO OH, EIGHT SOUTHEAST ASIA LEOLA STREET, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. AGAIN I'M GOING TO MENTION THAT I THINK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED ON. THIS ONE IS THAT WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 60 PARKING PLACES SHORT. OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR THIS AREA. UM I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED FOR ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL RETAIL SPACE, WHICH IS WHAT THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MIXED USE WITH RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL . WE'VE PROVIDED RESIDENTIAL. NO RETAIL. I DON'T THINK WE'VE PROVIDED ANY TYPES OF HOUSING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE. AND WE'VE ALSO GIVEN THEM A READER PAYMENT OF WHICH WAS ESTIMATED A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH PROBABLY CLOSER TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, WHEN THE ASSESSED VALUE IS ACTUALLY DETERMINED ON THAT PROPERTY, AND I THINK WE'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOME IN TOWN DENSITY. AND TO AVOID SOME PARKING ISSUES. WE'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS PARKING ON THAT PROPERTY , AND I UNLESS THE CITY IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WE CAN'T MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS WORK. LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. BUT IT COULD BE BETTER AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER. FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MR FREEMAN HAS ANYTHING WITH THE AH! RITA BENEFIT COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME . I THINK IT WENT TO THE ER ER RIGHT, ER I DID APPROVE IT. UM IT'S THERE IS NO SPECIFIC MATH. IT'S THE SIERRA DID. I THOUGHT IT WENT TO THE CRP ON THE ON THE NEXT? OKAY JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WHERE WE'RE STANDING THAT I WOULD BEEN AT ONE OF THE C R A MEETINGS. I'D HAVE REMEMBERED IT . THANK YOU. UM OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. MR. KENDALL, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR MATHESON. YES, COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES CLARK? YES, MCDONALD'S. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS, TIM. AND WE HAVE. ORDINANCE
[9. REPEAL & REESTABLISH CHAPTER 36, ARTICLE V, CODE OF ORDINANCES (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2488-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, REPEALING AND REESTABLISHING CHAPTER 36, ARTICLE V, COMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, OF THE CITY OF STUART CODE OF ORDINANCES; PROVIDING INTENT AND PURPOSE, APPLICABILITY AND AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT; PROVIDING DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR NOTICE OF TRANSFER, SALE, OR ASSIGNMENT ]
FIRST READING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. UH SORRY. REPEAL AND RE ESTABLISH CHAPTER 36 ARTICLE FIVE OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. THIS PERTAINS TO COMMUNICATION FACILITIES AND[02:05:03]
PUBLIC RIGHT AWAYS. WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO FOUR 8 8-2022. MR MARTEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE MOTION OF THE ORDINANCE? THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2488-20 TO 2 IN ORDER TO THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. REPEALING AND REESTABLISHING CHAPTER 36 ARTICLE FIVE COMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES AND PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY OF THE CITY OF STEWART CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING INTENT AND PURPOSE APPLICABILITY AND AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT PROVIDING DEFINITIONS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE OF TRANSFER, SALE OR ASSIGNMENT OF ASSETS, PROVIDING FOR REGISTRATION FOR PLACING OR MAINTAINING COMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES OF THE PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY. PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF A PERMIT PROVIDING FOR APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS AND REVIEW PROCEDURES, PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION METHODS AND PLACING OR MAINTAINING FACILITIES IN PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY PROVIDING DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVE. DESIGN STANDARDS, PROVIDING FOR INSURANCE AND INDEMNIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR FEES AND TAXES, PROVIDING FOR RESERVATION OF RIGHTS ENTITIES PROVIDING ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL ABILITIES PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.THERE WAS A LOT. UM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT AS A BRIEF BACKGROUND. IN 2000 AND 19, THE STATE OF FLORIDA ADOPTED LEGISLATION AUTHORIZING. THE EXPANSION OF WHAT IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE FIVE G, UM PHONE SYSTEMS. AND ESSENTIALLY THAT STATE'S STATUTE PERVASIVE PLACED RESTRICTIONS ON MUNICIPALITIES AS IT RELATED TO REGULATING AND CHARGING UM, FEES FOR THESE TYPES OF ANTENNA. AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, THE ANTENNA ARE VERY SMALL, AND THEY TAKE A LOT OF THEM RATHER THAN A LARGER SITE TO SITE MICROWAVE ANTENNAS LIKE WE HAVE HISTORICALLY SEEN. ERIN AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON THE MATTER, AND WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT. KEVIN DID ORIGINALLY IT'S BEEN PENDING ABOUT A YEAR GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE GET CLOSE TO COMING TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING, WE GET INUNDATED WITH OBJECTIONS FROM THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE REGULATIONS. UM, I DID RECEIVE FOUR EMAILS IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF THEM.
UM PRIMARILY THE GENERAL GIST OF THOSE LETTERS IS THAT THEY SAY THAT WE, UM UH, ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE STATE STATUTES BECAUSE WE DON'T INCLUDE ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE STATUTE.
BUT THAT WAS MY INTENTION. WHEN WE WENT OVER WHEN AARON AND KEVIN AND I WENT OVER IT IF IT WAS ALREADY MANDATED BY THE STATE STATUTE. THE CITY DIDN'T JUST REPEAT IT FOR THE SAKE OF WRITING THE FLORIDA STATUTES BACK DOWN IN OUR, UM, CODE. HOWEVER THEY THERE THERE MAY ACTUALLY BE SOME, UM, LEGITIMATE OBJECTIONS OR OR CLARIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN. AND MY THOUGHT IS THAT THESE LETTERS ALL CAME IN LITERALLY AT THE LAST MINUTE. SOME OF THEM ARE BASED ON A PRIOR RENDITION OF THE DRAFT THAT WE HAD PROVIDED TO A T AND T. AND, UM. WHAT MY PLAN WAS TO GO OVER LINE BY LINE . WHATEVER THEIR LETTERS ARE, WHATEVER THEIR AD, WHERE THEIR ISSUES ARE, AND THEN PRESENT TO THE TO THE COMMISSION. KIND OF A RESPONSE. YOU KNOW, IN EXCEL SPREADSHEET FORM, KIND OF LIKE HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING WAS , AND HERE'S THE RESPONSE AND HERE'S HOW WE REACTED BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING. THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME IS UM THERE IS A CONSISTENCY THAT THEY OBJECT AND SAY THAT WE FOR PERMIT OR YOU CAN'T HAVE A PERMIT. BUT IF YOU READ THE STATE'S STATUTE, THE STATUTE SAYS, YOU CAN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT UNLESS IT'S GOING TO BLOCK THE STREET, THE SIDEWALK OR OR USE OR BE INVOLVED IN EXCAVATION. SO REALISTICALLY, IF THEY WERE JUST GOING TO GO AND TURN A SCREW. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT, LET ALONE ASK FOR A PERMIT, BUT WE CAN ASK FOR A PERMIT IF THEY'RE GOING TO DIG UP THE SIDEWALK OR THEY'RE GOING TO BLOCK THE ROAD OR THE SIDEWALK. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE OTHER ONE WAS THAT WE CAN'T CHARGE ANY KIND OF BOND. AND MY READING OF THE STATUTE SO FAR DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CANNOT CHARGE FOR OR NOT CANNOT REQUIRE BAND. IT SAYS THAT WE CANNOT CHARGE FOR EACH ONE OF THE POLLS OR CHARGE FEES ON IT. THE BAND IS NOT INTENDED TO CHARGE IT TO MAKE A PROFIT OR CHARGE A FEE. IT IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DIG UP OUR SIDEWALK OR OUR ROAD, WE WANT SOME TYPE OF ASSURANCE. THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT IN THE CONDITION THAT YOU FOUND IT, AND I NEED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S CONSISTENT BUT OVERALL AND WE'RE OPEN TO MAKING THOSE CHANGES IF WE NEED TO. UM ACCORDINGLY. I ALSO HAD SOME
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COMMENTS. I KNOW THE MAYOR COMMENTED AND ASKED US TO ADD SIDEWALK AND MULTIMODAL PATH ORG THAT TO THE SECTION OF IT AND LASTLY HAVE SEEN SOMEBODY RENDITIONS OF IT. I DIDN'T REMEMBER. ONE OF OUR RENDITIONS DID INCLUDE A RESTRICTION OR RESTRICTIONS ON THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREA, AND I HAVE NOTES TO MYSELF TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE, AND IF IT'S NOT, WE'LL BE ADDING IT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GREATER. GO ON, MIKE, THE FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO MAKE IT. I THINK THE GOOD WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IS REALLY GOOD. THEY STATE YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THE CELL PHONE COMPANIES RAMMED THIS DOWN OUR THROATS THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE BACK IN 2018 IN A AND I THINK THEY HAD EVERY LOBBYIST AND TALLAHASSEE HIRED WORKING ON IT. UM IT WAS IT WAS, OF COURSE. I ALWAYS LIKED THAT. THE YEAR BEFORE THEY PASSED THIS. THEY PASSED THE THEY GOT THE STATUTE PASSED THAT. ANY ANY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RIGHT OF ANY THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR RIGHT AWAY ARE IF WE DO ANY CHANGES TO THE ROAD THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO MOVE IT, SO THEY GET THAT DONE FIRST, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND GET A WHERE THEY CAN JUST PUT UNLIMITED INFRASTRUCTURE. IN SOME CASES, ALMOST WITHOUT EVEN SPEAKING WITH US TO YES, BUT I THINK ANY PLACE THAT THAT THEY'RE GONNA TEAR SOMETHING UP. I KNOW THEY PUT LIKE A CONCRETE POLE. OVER ON SOUTHFIELD CRESCENT WITH THAT , UM, RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF MARY HUTCHINSON'S HOUSE. WOULD THAT REQUIRE A PERMIT UNDER ARE GOING AND PUT A POLL LIKE THAT IN UNDER R V. OUR CURRENT. DRAFT REQUIRES THEM FOR ANY WORK TO BE DONE TO BE A PERMIT. THE LANGUAGE AS IT RELATES TO THE PERMITS IS ALSO A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS. THE QUESTION IS NOT TO US THE PERMIT. IT'S THE COST OF THE PERMIT, SO IT HAS TO BE LIKE 15 BUCKS. WE WOULD HAVE IT BE A NON A NON COST PERMIT. WE YES, IT WOULD. TO US. IT WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE OUR G. I J. I S NOWHERE. THEIR STRUCTURES ARE LOCATED. NO. YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE IMPACTING OTHER ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF PERMANENT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO SUBMIT ANYTHING TO US. WE'D NEVER BE ABLE TO TRACK IT. YEAH I THINK SO. I PERSONALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS A STRICT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN UNDER THE STATE'S STATUTE. UM. BUT OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO BREAK THE STATUE.I MEAN, WE AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. WE WERE LIKE WE'VE GONE AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND SO MANY TIMES THAT OUR ATTITUDE IS NOW LOOK, LET'S GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS . ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS IF SOMEONE COMES FORWARD AND CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THAT WE'VE MADE A MISTAKE, AND THAT THIS ISN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE STATUTE, I'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE BEFORE YOU AMENDING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET IN TROUBLE OVER IT, BUT SO FAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BEEN OUR INTENT TO VIOLATE THE STATUTE. AND IF I WERE TO GO WITH YOU LINE BY LINE, I'M ALL THEIR COMMENTS. AND I CAN TAKE THE REST OF THE EVENING. BUT I WOULD BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THAT MOST OF THEIR COMMENTS ARE RELATED TO THE FACT THAT WELL, THE STATUTE SAYS THIS AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN YOUR ORDINANCE. WELL, TRUE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE STATUTE. WHAT ARE YOU FOR? EMOTION TONIGHT? WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU REQUESTING AND TO BE IN THE MOTION? JUST MOVE APPROVAL AND TO COME BACK WITH THE RESPONSES TO THE PROFESSIONALS. COMMENTS OKAY, I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. LITTLE ARE BRING IT BACK FOR A SECOND READING, ALONG WITH RESPONSE TO COMMENTS BY THE BY THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY, ALONG WITH ADDING ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. OH ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS, COMMENTS COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND VICE MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS KIND OF TELL HASSETT IS 51 MORE WAY TO LIMIT HOME RULE AND OUR RIGHT OF WAY IS THAT WE WORK WITH, UM BUT BUT BUT THE FACT MATTERS WE HAVE TO GET SOMETHING PASSED BECAUSE THE CLOCK IS TICKING, AND THESE THINGS ARE STARTING TO POP UP. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT. THE WORKING DRAFT DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. MISS CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? MATHESON YES. BRUNER YES, CLARK? YES. MCDONALD'S OCEAN PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 TREE REMOVAL
[10. TREE REMOVAL PENALTIES TEXT AMENDMENT (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2491-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER V, RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS OF THE CITY’S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; AMENDING SECTION 5.05.08 PENALTIES FOR THE WRONGFUL REMOVAL OF TREES; REPLACING ORDINANCE 2478-2022; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF CONFLICTING ORDINANCES; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
PENALTIES TEXT AMENDMENT THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER. TWO FOUR 9 1-2022. MR MARTEL. THIS IS NORTH. IT'S NUMBER 2491-20 TO 2 IN ORDER TO THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE RESOURCE PROTECTION STANDARDS FOR THE OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AMENDING SECTION FIVE POINT OH, FIVE POINT. OH, EIGHT. PENALTIES FOR THE WRONGFUL REMOVAL OF TREES REPLACING ORDINANCE 2478 DISH 20 TO 2 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF[02:15:06]
CONFLICTING ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR QUALIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I SAW AN AD IN THE INTERNET THAT WAS SAID THE CITY WAS HIRING A PLANNER AND I SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION IN THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED ME TO DEMONSTRATE THIS TONIGHT BY COMING IN TO DO TWO ITEMS. I MEAN IS I AM HANDLING THIS ONE AS WELL. IT'S UNRELATED. IT WAS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IS YOU GUYS PASSED THIS ORDINANCE BACK? IN THE BEGINNING OF MARCH. THERE WAS SOME CONFLICTS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DUPLICATIVE LANGUAGE AND, UM UNICODE HAD ALL SORTS OF QUESTIONS WITH IT. AND WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH THE CLERK AND TOM READS IN LOOKING AT IT. IT JUST SEEMED EASIER TO SIT DOWN AND REMOVE AND CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE . IF YOU RECALL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AS YOU HAD A MINIMUM OF FIVE TREES WAS NEEDED TO BE A VIOLATION, OR WAS IT A VIOLATION AND READING IT? IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW. UM AND THERE WAS LITERALLY ADOPTED THE SECTION TWICE. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE SAID YEAH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT TO CUT DOWN A TREE RIGHT NOW.PERMITS DON'T COST ANYTHING SO HOMEOWNER CAN GET A PERMIT FOR FREE IF THEY WANT TO CUT DOWN A, UH, TREE GROWING IN THEIR FRONT YARD. IF YOU CAME IN TO CUT DOWN A TREE THAT WAS NOT A HISTORIC TREE OR A SPECIES TREE. THERE WOULD BE NO UNDER OUR CODE. THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT. YOU COULD CUT EVERY TREE DROWN IN YOUR WHOLE YARD. AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR YOU TO HAVE ANY REPLACEMENT OR ANY INCHES, HOWEVER, IF IT WAS 100 AND 75 YEAR OLD OAKTREE, THAT WAS 95 INCHES AROUND. IT WOULD BE HISTORIC TREE, AND THERE MAY BE SOME REQUIREMENT FOR.
NEGOTIATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AS IT RELATED TO THAT, BUT AGAIN UNDER AN INDIVIDUAL HOME IN YOUR FRONT YARD, THERE WOULD BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR REPLACEMENT INCHES. IF YOU WERE TO CUT THAT DOWN WITHOUT A PERMIT. A NEW GOTTEN EXCITED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT OR A NEIGHBOR REPORTED IT. THE PERSON THAT CUT IT DOWN WOULD HAVE TO COME. AND THIS IS ALSO THOSE TWO DEVELOPERS BEFORE IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE AND OR CITY COMMISSION. IT HAS TO GO TO THE UM. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO'S REQUIRED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE PERSON IN VIOLATION TO ENTER INTO ESSENTIALLY A RESOLUTION AGREEMENT. RESOLVING IT. IF IT WAS A SINGLE HOMEOWNER THAT HAD CUT DOWN A TREE. THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COULD ISSUE A AFTER THE FACT PERMIT. AND IF IT WAS A PERMIT THAT HAD NO IMPACT, LIKE CUTTING A TREE DOWN NOW, THEN THAT WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD BE OVER IN A MATTER OF THE RESOLVED. IF IT WAS A DEVELOPER THAT WAS REQUIRED TO DO REPLACEMENT INCHES, THEN PURSUANT TO THE CITY'S INTENT OR THE CITY COMMISSION'S INTENTION BEFORE IT SHOWS THE MATH, SO YOUR REPLACEMENT INCHES WOULD NORMALLY BE 1.5. SO IF YOU CUT DOWN A 10 INCH TREE YOUR REPLACEMENT ISSUES WOULD BE 1.5 . SO YOU 15 INCHES WOULD BE OWED BACK TO THE LAND AND THEN BECAUSE YOU DID IT WITHOUT A PERMIT THAT WOULD BE MULTIPLIED BY THREE, WHICH IS 45 INCHES. PROBLEM IS AND I'LL USE THE ONE BY JENSEN BEACH AS AN EXAMPLE BEFORE NORMALLY WHEN THEY COME INTO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH THEIR SITE PLAN, THEY'VE ALREADY PUT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF INCHES THAT THEY CAN SQUEEZE BACK ON THE SITE PLAN AS POSSIBLE. BASED UPON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE CLEARING, AND AS A RESULT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO PUT THREE TIMES THE REPLACEMENT INCHES. ON THAT THEY COULDN'T FIT ALREADY. SO THERE'S AN OPTION IN THAT TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO LOOK AT THEIR PROPOSED MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH IS TO REPLANT IT ON SITE AND IF THEY CAN'T REPLANTED ON SITE. THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR CAN SIT WITH THEM AND ACCEPT PAYMENT IN LIEU TO THE TREE REPLACEMENT FUND. IF THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE VIOLATOR CANNOT COME TO A RESOLUTION AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, RESOLVING IT. THEN THE MATTER WOULD GO FORWARD TO EITHER THE CITY COMMISSION AND OR THE MAGISTRATE BASED UPON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THE CITY COMMISSION COULD. DO YOU KNOW A FIND THE PDS IN BREACH AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE ANY PERMITS UNTIL ALL THE TREES HAVE GROWN BACK TO THE LEVEL THEY WERE AT SO 15 TO 20 YEARS. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION. UM I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE INTENTION OR HERE WOULD BE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WILL BE IN A POSITION TO ACTUALLY MAKE A AH! PROPOSAL TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE VIOLATION , BUT BY SHOWING THAT IT'S THREE TIMES AND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS HANDS ARE TIED THAT THE DEVELOPER THAT OR THE VIOLATOR WILL ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT TO AVOID HAVING THAT CONFLICT WITH THE COMMISSION. BUT AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM WE'RE A SINGLE PERSON LIVING IN A HOUSE CUTS DOWN A TREE IN THEIR FRONT YARD. THAT'S THE TREE IN THEIR FRONT YARD,
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AND THE NEIGHBOR DOESN'T LIKE THEM, SO THEY CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ON HIM. THE REALITY IS THAT THE SAME TIME THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WILL HAVE THE DISCRETION BASED UPON THE CODE TO JUST ISSUE THE AFTER THE FACT PERMIT THAT HAD NO COST DOCUMENT THAT IT WAS CUT AND MOVE ON, MR MARTEL. THANK YOU AS SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE INTERVIEWING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.IT'S YOUR SECOND PRESENTATION, BUT THANK YOU, UM I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AMENDED LANGUAGE AND THIS DOES GIVE A LOT OF AUTHORITY. TO A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHETHER THAT'S A YEAR FROM NOW OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. SO YOU ALREADY STATED A LITTLE BIT, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I THINK WE ARE ALL IN A AGREEMENT. ON THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND IT IS. AS WE'VE SEEN HARD TO DRAFT LANGUAGE FOR THE INTENT. AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
I DIDN'T PUT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR STUFF WAS IN THERE ALREADY. THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE YOU GUYS PASSED HAD THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR DOING THAT, BUT I WANT TO PUT FOR THE RECORD THAT THE INTENT OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO PROHIBIT THE UNAUTHORIZED CLEARING OF VEGETATION ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, ALONG WITH THE REMOVAL OF HISTORIC SPECIMEN TREES THAT IS UNAUTHORIZED. THE INTENT IS NOT TO BURDEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS. SO ANYONE IN THE FUTURE COULD REFERENCE THIS MEETING IF THEY QUESTIONED THE INTENT. OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS GONE OVER. AS HAS THE MAYOR, AND IF ANY OTHER COMMISSION WANTS TO TOUCH ON THE INTENT. OF WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO DRAFT HERE TO PREVENT THE UNAUTHORIZED LARGE SCALE CLEARING OR REMOVAL. OF HISTORICAL SPECIMEN TREES AND MARRIED MAYOR IS IT RELATES TO THIS BEING FIRST READING? IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE ME THAT LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST SAID, RELATED TO THE INTENT, I CAN ACTUALLY ADD A WHEREAS CLAUSE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS THAT EXACT BURBAGE IN IT BETWEEN 1ST AND 2ND. I CAN GET YOU THAT. ABSOLUTELY YOU MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE LANGUAGE REQUESTED BY MR MATHESON. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. WITH THE ADDED LANGUAGE INTO A WHEREAS CLAUSE, UM FOR ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO FOUR. 9 1-2022. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL? HEARING NONE. UH, THIS CAN BE A. I DON'T KENDALL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SURE. COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES. MCDONALD'S YES, YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND NOW IT'S
[11. ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS IN DOWNTOWN STUART DISCUSSION]
TIME FOR OUR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ON ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. IN DOWNTOWN STUART. THIS WILL BE PREPARED AND PRESENTED BY MR BEN HOGARTH. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. BEN HOGARTH. FOR THE RECORD, UM THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED, UH, TO BE BROUGHT FORTH BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. ONE AS YOU'RE AWARE. A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE ADOPTED THE COMMISSION'S SPECIFICALLY ADOPTED AFTER A YEAR LONG EFFORT , A SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, WHICH I'LL BRIEFLY MENTION THE PRESENTATION. AND SO SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT GO TOWARDS THAT PLAN INCLUDE IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE DOWNTOWN TO SUPPORT ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE GO THROUGH. AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS A SEGUE SO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, WE CAN TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY F P L TO PROTECT POTENTIALLY ENGAGE IN AND ALSO JUST THE FUTURE OUTLOOK FOR WHAT THE DOWNTOWN CAN BE, UM, WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING AND PERHAPS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES WITH IT. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE AP SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN. THE CURRENT VEHICLE MARKET FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND GAS POWERED VEHICLES, OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE. LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXAMPLES IN FLORIDA SPECIFIC BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT OTHER STATES LOCATIONS AND ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM ESPECIALLY ONE PLACING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE. IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED AND FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. UM AND THEN ALSO SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THAT'S SO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN WAS FIRST KIND OF CONVENED AND DEVELOPED AROUND OCTOBER. 2019 THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER. UM WAS CONVENED IN FOR ABOUT A YEAR MET AND DISCUSSED AND DELIBERATED WHAT STAFF JUST ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT. SEA LEVEL RISE ALL THAT AND BY JANUARY, 2020. THE COMMISSION ALSO PROCLAIMED 2020 AS THE YEAR OF CLIMATE ACTION IN THE CITY OF STEWART, SO THAT PRECIPITATED EVERYTHING THAT THAT HAPPENED THROUGH NOVEMBER OF 2020 WHERE WE FINALLY ADOPTED , UM, THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN. AND THEN FROM THERE, THE STAFF WAS TASKED WITH TAKING[02:25:03]
THAT PLAN AND THEN PUTTING IT INTO ACTION. AND SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE FACT THAT WE GET THE YOU KNOW, SOLAR NOW. ACTUALLY SMART CITY SOLSMAN SMART CITY DESIGNATION. THAT WAS A BRONZE LEVEL DESIGNATION. WE DID THE SOLAR NOW PROJECT WITH FTL PRIOR TO ALL THAT, UM, SO WE'VE STARTED TO KIND OF GET INTO THESE NEW RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS, BUT WE'VE BEEN MORE FLIRTING WITH IT. NOW THIS IS REALLY GETTING INTO HARD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE YOU'VE SEEN IN CALIFORNIA IN YEARS PAST, AND IT IS NOW STARTING TO EXPAND TO OTHER MARKETS, INCLUDING FLORIDA. SO BY 2021 STAFF WAS DOING THAT. AND THEN IN THIS YEAR GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS WE CAN PRIORITIZE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THIS AS WE GO THROUGH EACH BUDGET YEAR FROM NOW ON. UM SO THERE IT IS. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK MUCH ABOUT THIS, BUT JUST TO JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO THE S A P PLAN. UM REALLY HERE WITH THE ONE GOAL, IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ADAPT TO GROWING INNOVATION AND NEED RELATING TO TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN ADDING E V CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE BOTTOM HERE BY 2025. SO THIS IS KIND OF DIRECTLY IN RELATION TO A SPECIFIC GOAL SPECIFIC CHAPTER IN R S A P TO KIND OF SHOW HOW IT ALL WRAPS TOGETHER. WHY IT MATTERS. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE COUNTLESS, I THINK CLIMATE ACTION ARTICLES GOING FORWARD AS WE START TO EXPERIENCE THE KIND OF RAINFALL THAT WE'VE SEEN LAST FEW DAYS. UM OTHER PARTS OF THE NATION HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO EXPERIENCE THIS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. YES IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. BUT REALLY WHEN IT TAUGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TV INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THIS HALF OF THE PIE CHART HERE. UH THIS IS AN EMISSIONS BY SECTOR BETWEEN 2005 AND 15. WE'RE TARGETING TRANSPORTATION RIGHT NOW. UM AND OBVIOUSLY MARTIN MPO AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL CLIMATE COMPACT FOR CLIMATE CHANGE. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO BIG ORGANIZATIONS THAT PLAYED A HUGE PART IN SOUTH FLORIDA. UM IN SOUTH OF US, AND SO WE'RE KIND OF MATE. WHILE WE'RE NOT PART OF THAT COMPACT, SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE, UM CAN CAN BE A GOOD COMPLEMENT AND TO THAT IN THE FUTURE, SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, AND ALSO SO THAT WE'RE KIND OF TALKING THE SAME LANGUAGE APOLOGIZE FOR ANYONE WHO ALREADY IS WELL AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CHARGING WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS. BUT THIS IS JUST A QUICK RECAP. AND THESE ARE VERY BROAD GENERALIZATIONS. BECAUSE THE MARKET UM THERE'S A LOT OF HYBRID STATIONS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS AND INNOVATIONS ARE GOING ON. BUT GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LEVEL ONE CHARGER THAT'S BARE MINIMUM, TAKES MANY, MANY HOURS TO CHARGE. IT'S LIKE THE BASIC THAT THE CARS COME WITH.WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT IS A CITY GOVERNMENT AND ALSO WHAT THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIES ARE LOOKING AT ARE BOTH LEVELS TWO AND THREE CHARGERS. LEVEL TWO CHARGERS ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT ON LIKE A WASHER DRYER APPLIANCE CONNECTION AT HOME. SIMPLE 40 VOLT. AND YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR VEHICLE AND AS LITTLE AS THREE OR FOUR HOURS MIGHT TAKE SEVEN OR EIGHT, DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE, DEPENDING ON THE DEVICE THAT YOU BUY, BUT GENERALLY LEVEL TWO CHARGERS ARE THOUGHT OF AS LIKE THIS OVERNIGHT, CHARGING UM, SO IT GIVES FAMILIES WHO BY ELECTRIC VEHICLE CARS KIND OF THIS PEACE OF MIND, UH, THAT BY MORNING BAKING CHARGE FROM ALMOST EMPTY TO ALMOST COMPLETELY FULL, SO THAT'S LEVEL TWO. CHARGING LEVEL THREE. CHARGING IS WHAT MORE SPECIFICALLY HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS KIND OF THE SUPERCHARGERS THAT YOU SEE ALONG HIGHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE. UM NOT ALL LEVEL THREES ARE NECESSARILY SUPERCHARGERS. BUT YOU'RE TALKING 20 TO 30 MINUTES OF FROM A NEAR EMPTY TO A NEAR FULL CHARGE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND WHILE THAT'S NOT NEARLY AS FAST AS PERHAPS A FIVE MINUTE FILL UP AT THE GAS PUMP, UM THE PRICE DIFFERENCE WILL BE, UM ESPECIALLY DIFFERENT ANYWHERE FROM TOTALLY FREE TO MOST OF THE SUPER CHARGES AREN'T AREN'T FREE, BUT AN AVERAGE OF 15 MAYBE $25 TO FILL UP. WITHIN THE VEHICLE AS COMPARED TO WELL , SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE CURRENT PRICES OF GASOLINE POWERED VEHICLES, SO THE PRICE IS STILL VERY, VERY MUCH CHEAPER THAN GASOLINE. EVEN WHEN THERE IS A CHARGE, AND IN MANY INSTANCES, WE'RE SEEING COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES NOT CHARGE , AND I'LL GET INTO THAT AT THE MOMENT. THE MARKET WHY THAT IS SO CONDITIONS AGAIN FUEL COSTS OF MORE THAN DOUBLE FOR GASOLINE AND DIESEL POWERED VEHICLES, AND IT'S NOT SLOWING DOWN NECESSARILY. MOST AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURERS ARE GEARING UP, ESPECIALLY FOR 2023 TO START MASS PRODUCING LINES OF EVIE MOTIVE, AUTOMOBILES AS BEST AS THEY CAN. I KNOW THEY'RE STILL CHIP SHORTAGES AND OTHER OTHER ISSUES WORLDWIDE. UM BUT MORE THAN 600,000 TVS WERE PURCHASED IN THE U. S AND 2021. THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS IS EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 3 TO 5 YEARS THAT NUMBER HAS DOUBLED. AND SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT BY 2030, THEY SAY OVER 40 MILLION, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL FLEET
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VEHICLES WILL BE ELECTRIC. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE OUT OF EVERY SIX CARS IN THE UNITED STATES SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE BEING ELECTRIC BY 2030, AND THAT'S NOT THAT FAR OFF. UM SO 2020 23, THE MARKET IS GEARING UP TO HAVE HUGE CHANGE, UM, AND WITH GASOLINA ITS HIGHEST EVER IN THE IN THIS COUNTRY, I EXPECT PROBABLY MOST OF THE METRICS WERE USING TO BE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE RIGHT NOW, SO LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SWITCHING, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN MORE CARS ON THE ROAD. THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, UM STILL, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE TO SATURATE ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE COMFORTABLE TO SWITCH AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE STILL SORT OF THIS.UM NOT EVERYBODY IS IN A POSITION TO DO SO, UM IN THAT INCLUDES ALSO HAVING HAVING A HOME WHERE YOU CAN CHARGE YOU KNOW, MULTI FAMILY RENTERS MIGHT HAVE MORE CHALLENGES THERE, AND SO THEY MIGHT BE LESS INCLINED TO PURCHASE UM AND EVEN AT THIS MOMENT. SO TIME TO CHARGE IT.
MOST LOCATIONS IS ALSO LESS CONVENIENT. SO UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT R AND D RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT THE U. S IS WORKING ON AND WE'RE STILL NOT THERE. BUT IN A FEW YEARS THAT WILL PROBABLY DRAMATICALLY CHANGED, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CAN DO SOLID STATE BATTERIES VS LITHIUM ION, SO THAT'S ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN COMING. UM BUT AGAIN, MOST IMPORTANT, REMEMBER MOST E V CHARGING IN THE COUNTRY STILL REMAINS FREE TO CHARGE. AND SO WHEN YOU THINK OF TESLA, TESLA WAS FREE TO CHARGE AND YOU KNOW, BEING KIND OF A MAINSTAY IN THE US NOW IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES. NOT THEIR PUMPS ARE NO LONGER FREE TO CHARGE AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO LOSE MONEY. SO THEY'RE CHARGING A BASIC MINIMUM TO COVER THE COST OF KIND OF ADMINISTERING. THE ELECTRIC FOR THEIR CONSUMERS, SO IT'S A IT'S A FAIR RATE, BUT THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY OFF OF IT. THERE'S STILL SELLING CARS AND YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF MANUFACTURERS GO THAT ROUTE. IT USED TO BE A BENEFIT TO TRY AND GET PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH TESLA. IT WAS IT WAS AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM, BUT, UM, I MEAN, THEY'RE TESLA CYBERTRUCK. WE ALSO WHEN THEY RELEASED THAT THEY'RE SOLD OUT THROUGH 2026.
SO THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH SELLING VEHICLES. IT'S MORE OF A PROBLEM FULFILLMENT AT THIS POINT, UM, WITH SOME COMPANIES, SO THE BUSINESS MODEL THAT MY POINT ABOUT THIS SLIDE IS THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR EVIE. CHARGING STATIONS REALLY REVOLVES AROUND CUSTOMERS PURCHASING OTHER PRODUCTS. SO BUSINESSES ARE DRAWING. UM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO OWN EVEY CARS TO THEIR BUSINESS, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND 20 OR 30 MINUTES DOING SOMETHING. SO COME ON INTO MY COFFEE SHOP BY SOMETHING. SIT DOWN FOR 20 WHILE WHILE YOUR CAR CHARGES AND THAT'S BEEN THAT'S NEW BUSINESS, I MIGHT NOT HAVE GOTTEN OTHERWISE. WITHOUT THIS INCENTIVE, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING COMPANIES LIKE ELECTRIFY AMERICA. A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY WHO ARE WORKING WITH SMALL COMMERCIAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS TO INSTALL, YOU KNOW 234 OF THESE. WE HAVE WAWA DOWNTOWN IS A IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. UM PRIVATE, ALL PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. UM SO AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS FOR STAFF TO GET A DIRECTION FOR THE COMMISSION OF SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE IN IN WHAT WOULD LOOK GOOD FOR OUR CITY AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, AS WE TRANSITION. SO SOME OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE INCLUDE UNILATERAL DECISIONS WHICH WOULD BE CITY OWNED. SO WE PURCHASE UM , CHARGING STATIONS, THE ONLY CHARGING STATIONS WE CURRENTLY HAVE DOWNTOWN. ARE THE TWO TESLA STATIONS AND THE UNIVERSAL STATION. BUT ALL THREE ARE WERE DONATED BY BY TESLA. UM BACK IN . I WANT TO SEE THAT WAS 2019.
18 2018 7 17 17. OKAY SO 2017 SO THAT WAS RIGHT WHEN WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE KIWANIS PARK PROJECT WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE SOLAR PANELS, THAT'S WHEN THAT OCCURRED. SO WE INSTALLED THOSE CHARGING STATIONS. THAT WAS A FOUR YEAR KIND OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. WE'RE NOW BEYOND THAT. SO UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE JUST DONATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT LONG TERM. SOME OF THEM ARE MORE OR LESS. US SEEDING. YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, OR LEASING PROPERTY FOR BUSINESS TO CONDUCT THEIR, BUT IT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS CATEGORY. THIS IS ALL MOSTLY CITY OWNED, SO ANYTHING THAT WE DO UNILATERALLY. THAT'S AN OPTION. WE CAN GO DOWN. AND THAT COULD REDUCE FLEET COST, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WITH OUR VEHICLES GOES ALL ELECTRIC IN THE FUTURE. OBVIOUSLY AS YOU'LL TALK TO TIM AND MILTON. THERE'S LIMITATIONS TO THAT RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY COMMERCIALLY. SO UM, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S WHAT'S PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE TODAY AND THEN PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. UM THE SECOND CATEGORY, WHICH IS A MORE COMPLICATED RISK TO US, UM, WOULD INVOLVE PARTNERSHIPS. SO LIKE THE FTL PROJECT, I'M GOING TO GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY THAT WERE APPROACHED BY F P L. FOR THE FOR THE NEAR TERM IN THE NEXT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
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PERHAPS UH, THIS WOULD HAVE A LIMITED CONTROL ON OUR PART. WE WOULD BE LEASING PROPERTY TO THEM, BUT BUT THAT LEASE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 10 15 YEARS, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING SIMILAR TO HOW WE LEASED THE PARKING AREA AND QANTAS TO F P L FOR THE SOLAR PANEL PROJECT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW A SIMILAR OR LESS TERM OF LEASE THERE, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIMITED COSTS AND LIABILITY BUT ALSO LIMITED CONTROL. UM AND THEN THE LAST OPTION IS WHEN WE START LOOKING LONG TERM AT POLICY AND PLANNING FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO PUT WHENEVER THEY A NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES UP OR WHENEVER A MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT COMPLEX OR TOWN HOMES ARE BUILT FOR INCENTIVE IZATION FOR THOSE DEVELOPERS TO INSTALL BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH CHEAPER WHEN YOU ALREADY BREAKING GROUND TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT THEN AND THERE. UM THEN TO COME IN AFTER THE FACT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT. AND STAFF CAN GET DIRECTION ON FOR THE FUTURE.SOME A COUPLE OF BRIEF LOCAL GOVERNMENT EXAMPLES JUST TO SHOW YOU KIND OF THE BROAD SPECTRUM.
SARASOTA'S COUNTY DID THE REBATE PROGRAM. YOU SEE A LOT OF THAT CALIFORNIA NONPROFITS CAN GET UP TO 50% OF THE COST UP TO 4000 FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE ZB CHARGERS AT THAT COST. YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH INCENTIVIZING LEVEL TWO CHARGERS BECAUSE LEVEL THREE IS QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM AND THEN BUSINESSES COULD GET A 25% OF COST UP TO 2000. SO A LITTLE BIT LESS. DELRAY BEACH HAS A LARGE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT ARE EVEY OWNERS. UM BUT MOST OF THEM, UH, CHARGE AT HOME, AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE A HUGE NEED LOCALLY DOWNTOWN TO NECESSARILY CHARGE THEIR CAR. SO INSTEAD, DELRAY PARTNERED WITH PLUG IN FLORIDA. THEY INSTALLED TV CHARGERS. THEY MADE IT CONVENIENT AND THEY TARGETED VISIT VISITATION REGIONAL UM LOCAL AND JUST PEOPLE THAT COME DOWNTOWN. SO IT WAS MORE OF AN ECONOMIC UH, YOU KNOW, STIMULUS , OR AT LEAST THAT WAS THE HOPE BEHIND IT, AND THAT WAS DONATED THROUGH THROUGH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN AN ORANGE COUNTY , WHICH THE SHOW MASS AND SCALE ORANGE COUNTY DID A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ORLANDO UTILITIES COMMISSION. THEY GOT HALF A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT TO CONSTRUCT 22 UNIT HUB E V, CHARGING HUB LEVEL THREE CHARGERS ALL 22 OF THEM, UM AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PICTURE RIGHT THERE OF WHAT THEY DID. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ON THE PRICIER SIDE. BUT IT SHOWS YOU, UM IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, ORANGE COUNTY WAS PUTTING IN WITH THE CHARGES WITH THEIR PRIVATE SECTOR AND ALL THAT. THEY ALSO ENGAGED IN THIS PARTNERSHIP SO AGAIN A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. JOB TO CHOOSE FROM AN EXAMPLE TO LOOK AT. SO YOU KNOW FOR US. I SPECIFICALLY PUT THIS FIRST NEED ON THERE TO KIND OF SPEAK MORE TO WHAT FTL APPROACHED US ABOUT.
UM, BUT YOU YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT MORE COST EFFICIENT TO FIND AT LEAST A FEW PARKING SPACES IN ONE AREA, RATHER THAN TO DO ONE OFFS BECAUSE IN THE CASE OF LEVEL THREE CHARGERS, THEY NEED A TRANSFORMER. UM THEY NEED OTHER SERVICE EQUIPMENT, WHICH TAKES UP A LOT MORE SPACE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE AND GENERATE ELECTRICITY. SO WE ALSO GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RAILROAD CROSSING AND THE RAILROAD PARKING OVER HERE WE HAVE AN FCC. UM WELL, THAT'S BASICALLY FCC PROPERTY THAT THAT THAT WE UM, THAT WE UTILIZE, AT LEAST FROM THEM. AND SO WE WANT TO KIND OF CONSIDER ANY CONFLICTS THAT MIGHT MIGHT COME UP IN THE FUTURE. UM OR ISSUES OR CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE WE PLACE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES DOWNTOWN ARE ALSO ALONG US ONE THAT THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR WHERE TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE. UM CLOSE PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL SHOPS IS IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY, FOR THE FOR THE EXPLANATION THAT WE GAVE EARLIER ABOUT HOW BUSINESSES USE THAT AS A AS A WAY TO DRAW A NEW BUSINESS TO THEM. THEN MOST IMPORTANT, PROBABLY APPROPRIATING IT SOME WAY SPACE FOR SIGNAGE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. UM AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO FIND IT INTO HAVE SPACE ALLOCATED. SO AGAIN, THE AREA LARGE ENOUGH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ACCESS TO E V CHARGING STATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN WORKERS MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION. EVEN CITY EMPLOYEES AND IN CO LOCATING MANY CHARGING STATIONS, ONE AREA DOWNTOWN TO INCREASE AWARENESS, EFFICACY AND COMPLIANCE. UM. SO AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS. I PUT THIS ON HERE JUST AS REFERENCE INSTALLATION COSTS THEMSELVES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THAN SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S A LEVEL TWO OR THREE. CHARGING STATION. UM AND THE ELECTRICAL WORK ALSO WILL BE EITHER. MORE EXPENSIVE OR LESS EXPENSIVE, DEPENDING ON IF THERE'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE WE DECIDE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UM BUT THERE'S GRANTS AND THERE'S PARTNERSHIPS OUT THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AND IT'S PART OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN. SO STAFF'S ALREADY CONSIDERING THAT, UH AND THOSE ARE WAYS FORWARD WHERE IF WE
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WANT TO ACT UNILATERALLY IF THE CITY WANTS TO INSTALL CHARGING STATIONS ON ITS OWN ITS OWN PROPERTY. THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT IS WHAT GRANTS AND PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL. SO LONG TERM COSTS. WE'VE GOT JUST SOME AVERAGE JUST PUT ON THERE TO REFERENCE. UH YOU KNOW, PAID A CHARGE STATIONS THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT AGAIN THAT EVEN THE MARKET ITSELF, THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW ARE ARE SOMETIMES UNABLE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO EVEN GO INTO STATIONS FOR FREE. UM AND SO CHARGING FOR A STATION IS EVEN LESS INCENTIVE . AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CHALLENGING TO FIND ANY KIND OF PARTNERSHIP OUT THERE THAT WOULD RESULT IN COST SHARING WITH WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND THE USE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE WHOLE INCENTIVE FOR SWITCHING TO TVS TO FURTHER CONSUMER TO SAVE MONEY AND GASOLINE, SO UM, YOU KNOW, FUTURE TECHNOLOGY COULD CHANGE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, UM, ISN'T GIVING A LOT OF A LOT OF HELP FOR EVEN COMPANIES LIKE TESLA. IT'S ALL PRETTY MUCH BREAK EVEN AT THE MOMENT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING BACK TO STAFF JUST TRYING TO GET SOME INPUT ON WHERE TO GO IN THE FUTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PURSUE ALL THESE OPTIONS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONCURRENT LOCATION IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF THIS ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE THEY VISIBILITY IS A IS A KEY FOCUS FOR COMPANIES LIKE F PL. UM AND THEN WE WANT TO CONSIDER MAYBE EVEN CITY OWNED TV, CHARGERS AND CITY OWNED ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR STAFF AS WELL, UM, TO KIND OF FORWARD ALL THAT. AND BEFORE I LEAVE IT FOR QUESTIONS. I'M JUST GOING TO REFER OVER TO F P L GAVE US I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. BUT IN SHORT, SOMET PUTTING FOUR WITH WITH A MAX BUILD OUT OF UP TO SIX, CHARGING STATIONS LEVEL THREE. DOWNTOWN SOMEWHERE. UM. AND IT COULD BE A LONG US ONE. BUT THEY SAY THEY'RE TARGETING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF TWO LOCATIONS ALONG A HIGHWAY LIKE US ONE, THE MAIN ROUTE OR IN A IN AN URBAN DOWNTOWN AREA.UM AND SO F P L I LEFT THIS HURRICANE FOR THE RECORD, BUT F P L IS LOOKING. UM TO DO AN INSTALLATION OF LEVEL THREE CHARGERS. THESE ARE FAST CHARGERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING 20 TO 30 MINUTES TO CHARGE A VEHICLE. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE YET IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THIS WOULD BE A HUGE CHANGE FOR US, UM, AND IT COULD DEFINITELY ATTRACT NEW CUSTOMERS. SO IT'S THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LOSS HERE FOR THE CITY. IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST A LEASE OF PROPERTY. UM THE FOUR STATIONS WOULD GO AND THIS IS A GOOD PICTURE FOR IT.
THERE'S A TRANSFORMER BEHIND THE FOUR CHARGING STATIONS. IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ALLOCATION OF FOUR SPOTS WITH WITH UP TO TWO MORE IN ADDITION IN THE FUTURE 10 YEAR COMMITMENT, UM IN F PL, UH , HAS HAS DONE YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF 100 OF THESE CHARGING LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE ALREADY, BUT WE GET THE BENEFIT OF KIND OF THE LATEST AND GREATEST TECHNOLOGY NOW, WHICH IS WHY THOSE CHARGERS ARE SO FAST. SO IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF A PARTNERSHIP AND STAFF IS GOING TO BE LOOKING TO GET, UM, DIRECTION ON THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS IN THE FUTURE. BUT I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND HAPPY TO HELP WITH THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, MR HOGARTH. SO COMMISSIONERS THIS ITEM WAS ASKED FOR BY COMMISSIONER MACDONALD. HE WAS ENQUIRING ABOUT THE HOW TO HAVE A DISCUSSION DELIBERATION ON THE COMMISSION. DESIRE TO GO OUT ON RFP FOR A POSSIBLE REVENUE GENERATING SOURCE FOR ELECTRIC CHARGERS. AND SO OPENING UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. HOW COME I GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO GO OVER HERE? HOW COME YOU KNOW WHEN I THINK I WANTED BROUGHT FORWARD THE CITYWIDE DISCUSSION, AND WHY DID YOU FOCUS ONLY ON THE DOWNTOWN? I MEAN, THERE'S A REASON NO, NOT AT ALL AT ALL. IN FACT, OUR DISCUSSION WITH THEFT PL UM THEY HAD THEY HAD NOTED THE POSSIBILITY OF GOING US ONE OR THE DOWNTOWN AREA OUT TO ANY OTHER COMPANIES LIKE ELECTRIFIED YOU MENTIONED ELECTRIFIED AMERICA. YEAH, WE'VE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN APPROACHED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THERE'S SO SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY BY WORKING WITH BUSINESSES LIKE HUAHUA, UM WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE BASICALLY INSTALLING AT YOUR STOREFRONT, AND SO THEY GET THEIR MONEY. OBVIOUSLY ON THE CAPITAL COST THAT KIND OF ENGINEERING ALL THAT STUFF UP FRONT, THE BUSINESSES THE IDEA OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT FOR THAT BUSINESSES. OVER TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR INVESTMENT BACKED BY PEOPLE COMING IN AND PURCHASING GOODS IN THEIR STORE. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FROM THE SALE OF ELECTRIC THAT THEY'RE MAKING MONEY, IN FACT, IN MANY CASES, CHARGING STATIONS ARE FREE IN MANY AREAS. IT'S ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO GENERATE NEW BUSINESS FOR THEM. SO THERE'S THAT MODEL, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO FROM THERE'S PROPERTY MANAGEMENT MODELS WHERE AH, AT MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. THEY'RE TRYING TO INSTALL LEVEL
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TWO CHARGERS FOR THERE AS A THAT AN INCENTIVE BUT ALMOST AS LIKE A DRAWING IN TRACTION FOR SOME CHARGERS AND SOME OF OUR COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY TO YOU, STUART OWN CHARGERS. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT'S JUST GETTING INTO A LONG TERM COSTS AND MAINTENANCE AND HEADACHE. UM I ALSO THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO PAY FOR THEIR ELECTRICITY. IN FACT, I SAW NORTH CAROLINA HAS A BILL GOING THROUGH THEIR LEGISLATURE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW FREE CHARGING ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE STATE. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A GOOD THING THAT ACTUALLY I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT FIRST, BUT THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SUCCESSFULLY MAKE THE SWITCH OVER TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, IT HAS TO, YOU KNOW. JUST BECAUSE YOU SWITCHED TO ELECTRIC CAN AFFORD TO BUY ELECTRIC VEHICLE WHICH COST MORE THAN A GAS POWERED VEHICLE DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD THEN GET SUBSIDIZED BY EVERYBODY ELSE. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANTS TO SUBSIDIZE EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER OF THAT BUYS AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE. UM SO REALLY, WHAT I ENVISION IS COMING OUT OF TONIGHT IS THAT WE GET STAFF TO DRAFT UP AN RFP THAT CAN. AH THAT CAN LOOK AT, UM DIFFERENT CHARGING COMPANIES WHERE THEY WANT TO COME IN AND SEE WHETHER IT'S F PIANO OR ELECTRIFY. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS, BUT THAT WORKS WE CAN FIND OUT, UM, WHERE WE COULD PUT ELECTRIC CHARGERS ON PRETTY MUCH ANY CITY PROPERTY, SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES. POPPLETON CREEK. UH, HANDY CREEK. UM SELFISH PARK GUY DAVIS PARK. AH! OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF DOWNTOWN AS WELL AND YOU KNOW NOW, WHETHER WE HOW MUCH REVENUE WE GENERATE. MAYBE THERE IS MAYBE THERE IS NOT A LOVE ROME LEVEL OF REVENUE TO GENERATE EACH INITIALLY ON THESE, BUT AS YOU SAID, AS. IF IT DOUBLES FROM 600,000 E V S THIS YEAR TO 1.2 NEXT YEAR AND 2.4 NEXT YEAR, THAT'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF CARS THAT ARE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PLUG IN. AND ADD, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET ELECTRICITY IN ORDER TO, UM DO THAT AND IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE SUSTAINABILITY MODEL THAT UNTIL THAT NETWORK IS OUT THERE OR ADD GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AND I WOULD GUESS THAT AH! I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE UP THE NAME ACME ACME WIDGET ELECTRIC CHARGING COMPANY. ARE WE COME IN, AND WE DO A, UH, AN RPG AND OFFER, SAY 30 SITES AROUND THE CITY AND SOMEONE MIGHT COME AND SAY, HEY, GREAT. WHILE WE'RE THERE. LET'S SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES WE CAN PUT IN AND THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT PROBABLY PUT A RANGE OF LEVEL TWO AND THREE CHARGERS AROUND AT RESTAURANTS, HOTELS. OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES. UM. AND THAT WAY WE WOULD EVENTUALLY GET THAT ELECTRIC CHARGING NETWORK. AND IF THE CITY IS STUART BECOMES A CHARGING HUB, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OF THE YOU PULL UP THE DIFFERENT CHARGING, AND I DID PULL, FOR EXAMPLE, ELECTRIFY AMERICAN THIRD MAP. I PULLED UP TESLA'S MAP OF, UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE THERE'S A THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA ACTUALLY IS PRETTY WIDE OPEN SPACE EXCEPT FOR DOWN IN SOME BOUND IN MIAMI AND MAYBE CAMPING ORLANDO AREA SO TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT JUST DOING SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE TO SEE WHAT COMES IN I THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE SURPRISED. UM WE MIGHT FIND OUT THAT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T INTERESTED RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE OPEN MARKET. WE TESTED OUT IN THE OPEN MARKET. AND IN, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE PROVIDE IF WE PUT OUT AN RFP WITH SAY 30 LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY, AND WE GOT AN R P WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT SOME SORT OF LEVEL CHARGER, WHETHER TWO OR THREE UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN A IN A NETWORK THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BLEED OVER INTO THE COUNTY AND WOULD PROBABLY BLEED OVER INTO THE COUNTING NORTH, EVENTUALLY TO THE COUNTIES NORTH AND SOUTH OF US. I COULD SAY. JUST JUST CLARIFY, FORGOTTEN MY COMMENT THAT THE F PL PROJECT THAT THEY APPROACHED US WITH WOULDN'T BE FREE, CHARGING THAT AT LEAST IN THAT CASE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS IN THAT SITUATION IF THEY IF IT'S LIKE A BREAK, EVEN FOR THEM, BUT THEY WOULD BE CHARGING. FOUR CHARGING AND THEY SAID THE AVERAGE COST FOR A FULL CHARGE ON THEIR SUPERCHARGERS MIGHT BE BETWEEN 15 AND $25. BY THE WAY, THAT'S DIRT CHEAP COMPARED TO YOU KNOW , FILLING UP YOUR CAR RIGHT NOW AND IT'S GONNA AND GAS PRICES GOING TO FLUCTUATE AND EVENTUALLY GO DOWN AND WE'RE[02:50:03]
GOING TO FORGET. AND THEN IT'S GONNA GO BACK UP AGAIN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN. WHERE ELECTRICITY PRICES J IS PRETTY MUCH GENERALLY RELATIVELY CONSISTENT. I WANTED TO, MR BRUNER, UM. LIKE TO KNOW FIRST IS HOW MANY HOW MANY OF THESE ELECTRIC CARS WE HAVE IN OUR TOWN. PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AND OUR VISITORS IF IT'S IF YOU KNOW IF IT'S WORTH IT, BECAUSE YOU SAID DELRAY BEACH, MOST OF THEM ARE JEWELRY BEACHES. OLD MONEY AND I COULD SEE THEM HAVING MORE MORE ELECTRIC CARS. SO WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT THE GIVEN THE INCENTIVE AND I WENT DOWNTOWN.DO YOU MEAN THEY DEL RAID. SPECIFICALLY MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROGRAM IS THEY TARGETED IN BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEIR RESIDENTS THEY WHEN THEY PULLED THEIR RESIDENTS. THEY KNEW THEY CHARGED AT HOME. SO REALLY, THEY WERE TARGETING ALMOST LIKE HOW WE DO ALL THE TIME DOWNTOWN HERE IS VISITORS AND TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN TO THE TO OUR BUSINESSES. SO THEY DID THAT, AND THEY'VE SO FAR BEEN LARGELY SUCCESSFUL AND, THANKFULLY FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE ABLE TO GET PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH THE NONPROFIT AND MOST OF IT WAS DONATED. I BET WE GET A LOT OF THEM HERE VISITORS AND THERE'S ONE MORE THING. THE CHARGES. WE HAVE IT AT PIANO THERE. DO HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY VANDALISM? COHEN IS PART. UM NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I I'LL BE HONEST AT SAYING THAT THE TESLA CHARGERS WE HAD TO REPLACE MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE PAIN OF NEW TECHNOLOGY . THE IRONICALLY, THE UNIVERSAL CHARGING STATION DIDN'T AND ALL THREE OF THEM WERE PROVIDED BY TESLA. IT WAS MORE THAT WAS MORE OF A PROPRIETARY ISSUE. UM BUT OTHERWISE I'VE NOT HEARD OF. IF ANYTHING, IT'S MORE OF AN EDUCATION AND HOW TO PROPERLY CHARGED. I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE THERE.
GREAT GREAT. THANKS. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, TRY TO JUST GET BACK WITH STAFF AND TRY TO FIND OUT MORE WHETHER THE COMMUNITIES ARE DOING WE DON'T HAVE A BIG DOWNTOWN IN FOUR. FORTUNATE LUCY ABOUT FORT PIERCE. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING? AS F PL WORKING WITH THEM FOR FOUR PERIODS. A GREAT QUESTION. COMMISSIONER FORT PIERCE APPARENTLY DID ENGAGE WITH IT.
THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT FPL'S REPRESENTATIVE TOLD US THERE. I BELIEVE IT WAS PALM BEACH GARDENS WAS THE OTHER ONE. THERE WERE TWO COMMUNITIES KIND OF WITHIN OUR GENERAL AREA. BUT FOR PIERCE WAS ONE WHERE THEY'VE HAD THESE INSTALLED AND I KNOW ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND THE TURNPIKE THE STATE HAS ALSO HAVE BOT HAS BEEN WORKING TO INSTALL THESE BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IS PEOPLE TO GO OFF THE HIGHWAYS AND REALLY GET BACK INTO THAT TOURISM MODE. YOU KNOW TO SHOW PEOPLE HEY, IT'S OKAY TO GO OFF THE HIGHWAY WITH YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE. THERE ARE CHARGERS THERE. WHETHER THEY COST OR NOT, AND THE IRONY OF THIS IN THIS GOES TO YOUR POINT.
COMMISSIONER MCDONALD'S THAT RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST IN THE CURRENT MARKET, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING ELECTRIC VEHICLES. IT'S NOT REALLY A MONEY THING FOR THEM NECESSARILY FOR THE CHART LIKE USING THE CHARGERS, IT'S MORE OF THIS AGAIN. THIS FEAR OF ACCESS SO ABSOLUTELY, WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS DOWNTOWN. THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE ON WHAT COMPANIES ARE WILLING TO DO, AND IF THERE IS AN RFP PROCESS THAT'S ONE WAY TO GO. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS AT LEAST WITH THIS F PL PROJECT IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST THAT IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PARTNERSHIP IN REALLY, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO TEST THE MARKET THAN TO PUT REALLY CONVENIENT CHARGING STATION SOMEWHERE AND STEWART TAKE MULTIPLE PATHS ON THIS TOO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE GO OUT WITH AN R P DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY HAVE TO LIMIT TO IT COULD BE MULTIPLE. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, WE PUT OUT AN R P ECONOMIC COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT THIS AREA BUT IN ANOTHER COMPANY MAY NOT EVEN WANT A CERTAIN AREA. WE WANT CERTAIN LOCATIONS. UM AND IF THE GOAL IS TO GET AS MANY CHARGERS OUT THERE AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT IN R P CERTAINLY WILL GIVE US WHAT THE WILL MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE MARKET. WITH IT, SO I THINK THEY'RE GONNA WANT A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA. I THINK SO. BUT WE CAN, CERTAINLY INSTEAD OF KIND OF THE COMMISSION IS IT TO PROVIDE LOCATIONS FOR CHARGERS, OR IS IT TOO? JANUARY. REVENUE FOR THE CITY BECAUSE DON'T FORGET. IF I USE FLAGLER PARK AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M JUST FAMILIAR WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A CARVE OUT OF HUDSON'S AND IT WAS NOT IN THE AREA DESIGNATED FOR THE SEE FOR THE GRANT MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED. UM AND A LOT OF OUR PARKS. HAVE GRANT MONEY THAT HAS RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. THAT WILL PREVENT US SO THE STAFF TIME IS GOING TO IDENTIFY THE SITES.
SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY ALL THE TITLE SEARCHES AND RESTRICTIONS ON ALL THE SITES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT AH! RESTRICTED IN SOME WAY BEFORE WE DO THE
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RFP. IT MAKES SENSE. THE LENGTH OF TIME IS GONNA MATTER. BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO WANT A LONG TERM LEASE. WHICH. COULD AFFECT ANYTHING RELATED TO WATER AND OTHER PARKS. I'LL BRING UP ANOTHER ISSUE AS IT RELATES TO THAT, AND DOING THESE, LIKE IN THE PARK AREAS IS I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL YOU SHOW THE PICTURE UP THERE. MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO WANT THEM IN SEQUENCE. THEY'RE GONNA PUT FOUR IN A ROW BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING THE TRANSFORMER IN. AND THEY WANT THEM TO BE DEDICATED FOR THE ELECTRIC CARS. AND SO I GOT MY REAR HANDED TO ME WHEN I GAVE THE TWO PARKING SPOTS UP ATTENDEES CREEK FOR PARAMEDICS TO PARK THERE. SO NOW IF I GIVE THREE OR FOUR ELECTRIC SPOTS UP THERE RIGHT THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S THE CHALLENGES ARE ARE NOT EASY. AND I THINK THE MIC TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK FIRST ONE AND THE OTHER AND THE FIRST ONE IS GET CHARGING STATIONS. AS MANY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. SECOND IS, AH, IS A, UM OVER LONG TERM REVENUE, MAINLY TO COVER OUR COSTS OF MAINTAINING PARKING LOTS AND UM , IN THE SPACES BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY MAY BE MAINTAINING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE , WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKING LOT AND THE STRIPING AND KIND OF POLICING IT SO TO SPEAK. UM. I JUST DON'T SEE US. ITSELF. CAUSTIC. IT WOULDN'T COST US IT WOULD COST US ANY MONEY. AND IF SOMEBODY IF WE DID IN OUR FEE, AND THEY COME IN, AND THEY AGREE TO DO IT AT THEIR COST THAT'S THAT'S WORKING. OH, YEAH. SO I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. ONE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE STRIVING. AS A PLANET OVERALL. FOR FREE CHARGING. EVENTUALLY ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS CREATED, IF WE CAN GET TO THAT GOAL UM, I DID. LOOK AT THIS AS TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. WHEN I SAW MR HOGARTH'S PRESENTATION AND FPL'S ON FOCUSING FOR DOWNTOWN HAS COMPARED TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY. AND WHEN I LOOK AT DOWNTOWN KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO PIN FOUR SPACES TOGETHER. I LOOK AT THAT A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS. UM BUT ONE IS OUR DOWNTOWN PARKING SPACES ARE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE AS THEY ARE NOW FOR TOURISM. ANF RFP WITH OUR DOWNTOWN PARKING SPACES, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE.LOSING OUR AUTHORITY OVER THOSE SPACES. AND I WOULD IF I PUT MY SHOES AND ACT CHARGING STATION INVESTMENTS OR WHATEVER THAT COMPANY WAS. I WOULD IMAGINE, AND WE COULD FIND THAT OUT, BUT THEY MIGHT BE RELUCTANT TO COME AND PUT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IF WE HAD LANGUAGE THAT I WOULD WANT IN THERE, WHICH WOULD SAY THAT A RESIDENT. WHO DOESN'T OWN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CAN STILL PARK IN OUR LIMITED NUMBER OF SPACES DOWNTOWN. UM BUT WE COULD PUT THAT OUT THERE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CERTAIN DEFICIT OF DOWNTOWN PARKING SPACES. OTHER AREAS. THAT. THE CITY CONTROLS THAT ARE MAYBE JUST SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE OF OUR PRIME DOWNTOWN LIKE THE SAILFISH PARKING RIDE. I COULD SEE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND WORKING WITH FP AND L ON THAT, OR, FOR EXAMPLE. THE WELLS FARGO PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF SPACES. I DON'T THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO INTENT AT THE MOMENT ON MAKING MONEY, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE WARY OF WANTING TO GO OUT AND TAP INTO, YOU KNOW, ARE ALREADY LIMITED SUPPLY OF SPACES. JUST TRY AND GET EVIE CHARGING STATIONS IN EVERY SINGLE LOCATION. I CERTAINLY SEE A NEED IN A BENEFIT TO GET PAST THE POINT. WHERE. THE COUNTRY IS NOW WHERE WE DON'T HAVE. YOU KNOW ENOUGH CHARGING STATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND BUY CARS BECAUSE THEY'RE SKEPTICAL AND ALL THAT WORKING WITH THAT.
BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON IT. I SEE THE VALUE IN OUR EXISTING SPACES. AND I'M HESITANT, AT LEAST IN THE CITY. THE DOWNTOWN AREA TWO OF THE HYPE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S OUT LONG TERM FOUR AND FIVE. SPACES CLUMPED TOGETHER IN A CERTAIN AREA. I DO SEE THAT AS A MAJOR BENEFIT TO CITY EMPLOYEES AND OFF HOURS IF WE CAN WORK OUT A DEAL LIKE THAT, IN OUR CITY HALL, PARKING SPACES OR SOMETHING LIKE EXPANDING OUT BEYOND THE DOWNTOWN. I SEE THAT
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BENEFIT, BUT I DIDN'T ATTACK THIS AND LOOK AT THAT AS THIS BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED DOWNTOWN AND I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS DISCUSSION TO HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS. AND THAT INPUT ON THAT. BUT EVEN JUST. GOING OUT TO THE 2000 FT LEVEL OF WHAT IS OUR INTENT AS FAR AS CHARGING STATIONS. YOU KNOW IF WE WANT IT TO TAP INTO PEOPLE GOING TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. THEY NEED TO BE REALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE LEVEL THREE OR ELSE THEY'RE EMPLOYEES OF REALLY THE CITY THAT WOULD BE CATERING TO FOR LEVEL TWO. UM AND. NO, I JUST WANT US TO ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND. THAT OUR PARKING SPACES AS THEY ARE VERY VALUABLE. AND SO I'D BE VERY RELUCTANT. TO SIGN ANYTHING WHERE IT GIVES UP GIVES US AH, WE LOSE OUR AUTHORITY. TO OFFER THOSE SPACES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. IF NEEDED. I WOULD SAY. JUST JUST THIS ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT. UNFORTUNATELY THE STATE HAS ALREADY PREEMPTED US ON PART OF THAT ISSUE. UM I DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO TOO MUCH TONIGHT. THERE'S ONE LAW THAT WAS PASSED.I FORGET WHAT IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. UM THE STATE OF FLORIDA PREEMPTED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM AND ACTUALLY, GENERALLY ANYONE I SHOULD SAY FROM PARKING IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE PARKING SPACE THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT SORT OF WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US. BUT THE POINT THE POINT IS STILL THERE FOR STAFF AND I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON WHERE WE CHOOSE AS A LOCATION. UM YOU KNOW, AND SO MY, I GUESS MY QUESTION WITH THE F PL TO KIND OF BRING IT BACK TO THE AT LEAST THE PROPOSITION WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US SO FAR, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S AN URGENCY OF TIME. THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS. THESE USUALLY THESE PROJECTS USUALLY GO PRETTY QUICKLY IN FTL, I'M SURE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM A SOONER THAN LATER THEY WERE TALKING 7 TO 12 MONTHS TO COMPLETE, UH, IN THE FUTURE, IF APPROVED, OR BY THE COMMISSION, BUT, UM, ALSO A GENERAL LOCATION OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING. AND JUST ONE SITE THAT CAME UP WITH SAILFISH PARKING LOT, OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT THAT AREA HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. I THINK IN THE PAST ABOUT A NUMBER OF OTHER USES, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. AND SO STAFF AT LEAST IN THE IN THE NEAR TERM OF WOULD NEED SOME DIRECTION, AT LEAST ON THAT PROJECT, AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE REST FOR THAT NEAR TERM, I'D CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED. SELFISH PARKING LOT WITH THE NL PROPOSAL BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN IS ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO PART YEAH, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. AND I THINK THAT OH, I'D BE OKAY WITH EXPLORING THE LOCATION LOCATION, WHEREVER IT IS, UM, BUT I ALSO LIKE I SAID, MY MAIN GOAL HERE IS TO LOOK AT THE IDEAS OF BRINGING MORE AND MORE OR CHARGERS AND I THINK THAT IF GETTING PEOPLE OFF THE HIGHWAY, NOT EVERYBODY COMES TO SEWARD JUST TO GO TO DOWNTOWN.
AND WHEN AND I'LL USE THE POPPLETON CREEK DOG PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, UM IS THAT IF WE HAD, UH. IT'S AMAZING AS SOON AS THAT FENCE OPENS UP IN THE MORNING. THE HALF DOZEN CARS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AND THEY COME AND THEY SPEND HOURS THERE WITH THEIR DOGS. AGAIN YOU'RE DEDICATING NOW. THREE OR FOUR SPACES? NO WELL, AND I HAVE SOME IDEAS ON THAT FOR THE DOG PARK FOR HIS PARKING BECAUSE AS WE'RE STARTING TO PUT PARKING ON THE ROAD ON CENTRAL PARKWAY, THERE'S SOME IDEAS, BUT THAT'S THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD. UM AND THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS AND AGAIN. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HE AS A AS A , EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO BE PUTTING MONEY OUT FOR EQUIPMENT. AND PAYING FOR ELECTRICITY, BUT ANY REVENUE WE GET FROM AH, THESE CAN BE USED ADDRESS ISSUES OF PARKING ISSUES. IF WE HAVE TO CREATE A COUPLE OF NEW PARKING SPACES IF WE HAVE TO MAINTAINED . SO THIS IS AND I THINK THESE THINGS ARE A IT'S QUITE ACTUALLY , THE ELECTRIC CHARGING NETWORK IS GOING TO BE THROUGH. NOT JUST HERE. BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. PROBABLY THE WORLD IS A WORK IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW GAS STATIONS PROBABLY STARTED WHEN THEY FIRST GOT AUTOMOBILES. THERE WAS VERY FEW GAS STATIONS AND THEN BY THE FIFTIES OR SIXTIES, THERE WAS ONE ON EVERY CORNER. NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING GAS STATIONS BUT WITH A GAZILLION PUMPS. JUST SO THERE'S THIS CONSTANT EVOLUTION OF HOW. WE WILL OPERATE AND THAT
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WILL CHANGE BE WITH ELECTRIC CHARGING AS WELL. MR CLARK CLARK ? YES SO I HAD LIKE SEVERAL THINGS, BUT EVERYBODY HAS SAID EVERYTHING ALREADY, BUT GOING JUST STARTING WITH WHERE YOU LEFT OFF. COMMISSIONER MAKE BASE. MAYOR MCDONALD'S DO WE EVER KNOW? OR DO WE ENVISION? THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE. IT'S A CALIFORNIA SINCE THEY TEND TO BE A WANT GALLARDO AND EVERYTHING AND LEAD THE WAY OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVING PRIVATE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COME AND PARK AND CHANGE OF IT. I MEAN, CHARGE YOUR VEHICLES SO WE COULD POSSIBLY GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF PRIVATE PEOPLE. WHETHER IT'S A DOWNTOWN AREA CLOSE TO THE TURNPIKE OR CLOSE TO THE DOG PARK OR WHATEVER THEY DO, BUT IN OTHER PLACES, THEY DO HAVE THAT. SOMEBODY PRIVATELY DOESN'T HERE. WELL YEAH, WELL, WHAT'S ANOTHER GESTATION? YEAH YEAH, I KNOW. WELL I GUESS SO.BUT I'M JUST I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF, OF COURSE, WE YOU KNOW THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING MAYBE THAT COULD BE AN INDUSTRY THAT'S COMING IF WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THOSE SPACES AND HABIT ON, IT MIGHT TAKE SOMETHING AWAY. BUT IT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THE OTHER THING IS JUST GOING BACK TO AN OLD MAXIM. I THINK COMMISSIONER BRUNO BROUGHT THAT UP. ALL WE SPENDING OUR WHEELS, AND ARE WE PUT IN THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH VISIBILITY FOR SETTING ASIDE THOSE SPACES SO THAT YOU KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED ON A GOOD ROTATING BASIS FOR US TO SAY, LET'S EXPAND OR LESS DEDICATE FOR THIS OR THAT, OR DO WE NEED MORE? INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ELECTRIC CAR BUSINESS. WE KNOW THAT THE FUEL CRISIS IS BURGEONING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THOSE THINGS LAST. AND IF WE WILL COME BACK, AND I THINK COMMISSION MCDONALD YOU DID TALK ABOUT THIS CYCLES THAT WE HAVE. SO YEAH.
GENERAL MOTORS PLANS ON BEING ALL ELECTRIC BY 2033. EVERY CAR THEY MANUFACTURED CADILLAC ALREADY SWITCHED. CADILLAC IS ALREADY IS IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW. SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE MIKE MORTELL COMES UP WITH A GREAT IDEA AGAIN. WELL SO HE JUST SUGGESTED. IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA THAT WE LOOK AT ANOTHER PROGRAM WITHIN THE C R A. WHATEVER THAT DOLLAR FIGURE IS X DOLLARS. KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE WILL GIVE YOU X NUMBER OF DOLLARS IF YOU PUT A CHARGING STATION WITHIN YOUR ON YOUR PRIVATE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, SO IT'LL BE A COMMERCIAL INCENTIVE PROGRAM. TO ADD THOSE WITHIN THE C R A. THAT'S AN IDEA. I THOUGHT ABOUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OF THE SLIDE, MR HOGARTH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ABOUT THAT, UM, YEAH, THERE'S SODA COUNTY. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A VERY COMMON CALIFORNIA MODEL. THESE LIKE THEY CALL HIM A REBATE PROGRAMS , BUT SARASOTA DID SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. IT WAS YOUR IDEA. I DIDN'T KNOW HE HEARD FROM MIKE. BUT, YOU KNOW FIRST ENOUGH AMAZING HOW FAST YOU GOT IT ON THE SLIDE SHOW TO WHAT IS OUR COUNTY DOING THAT SARASOTA'S COUNTY? THAT'S THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE THERE WAS. THERE ARE MANY, MANY EXAMPLES IN THE STATE BUT JUST WANTED TO THROW A COUPLE OF ADJOURNED. DO WE HAVE YOU KNOW? CONSENT ON HAVING STAFF GO FORWARD WITH THE FP AND L PROPOSAL, OR AT LEAST FURTHER INVESTIGATING HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE FBL PROPOSAL . WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SELFISH PART OUR PARKING DRIVE WHATEVER IT IS OVER THERE. BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS A 10 YEAR COMMITMENT AND YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT A PARKING GARAGE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, SO ALLOCATING A LOCATION WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS PARKING GARAGE IS ANOTHER ISSUE. WELL. CAN THAT BE CONSIDERED? OR WOULD WE WANT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING LIKE POPPLETON CREEK DOG PARK, ALTHOUGH WITH A LEVEL ALL LEVEL THREE. YOU'RE ONLY TALKING AN HOUR. RIGHT. BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE DEDICATING GOVERNMENT AT LEAST THREE SPOTS . I WOULD ALSO ADD NOT NOT TO NOT TO INTERRUPT IN THIS SENSE ONLY BECAUSE IT'S F PL REALLY CALLS THE THOSE SHOTS. THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING AT ONE OF TWO LOCATIONS, AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE PARKS WOULD BE PRIME LOCATIONS IN THE FUTURE TO KIND OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE IT. BUT AS FAR AS F PL THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ANYWHERE ON US ONE, SO THAT'S KIND OF A CONVENIENCE FACTOR FOR MOTORISTS. OR THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH IS BOTH A CONVENIENCE BUT ALSO A DRAW FOR BUSINESS AND IT'S HIGHER VISIBILITY. SO TOO CONCERNED. I MEAN, ONE WOULD BE IF WE COULD EXAMINE SELFISH PARK AND RIDE. IF IT COULD BE DONE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITING. POTENTIAL OF A PARKING GARAGE. SO SAY THOSE FOUR SPACES ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR AND THEY'RE JUST OUTSIDE OF A PATHWAY. THE TRANSFORMER IS OUTSIDE THE PATHWAY OF THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE OR THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES IF THE SAME CONSIDERATION COULD BE GIVEN TO THE WELLS FARGO PROPERTY. ON. CITY EMPLOYEE SPACES THAT WOULD WHERE WE KNOW WITH SOME DEGREE OF CERTAINTY. WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY ANY FUTURE PLANS. AT
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THAT LOCATION. BECAUSE I DO CERTAINLY AGREE THAT. IT MIGHT BEHOOVE US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OR AT LEAST FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH FP AND L AND GETTING SOME LEVEL THREE CHARGING STATIONS.YEAH, THESE THESE THROUGH A LEVEL THREE. IT SHOULD ALSO PROBABLY BE NOTED THERE. THERE'S NOT REALLY AN HONOR SYSTEM THERE . UM LIKE WE HAVE AT QANTAS. RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A PREMIUM RATE AFTER YOUR CAR IS DONE CHARGING EVERY MINUTE THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT PUMP THAT YOU LEAVE IT THERE. FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU'RE CHARGED HEFTY FEE COMPARED TO THE FLAT RATE, SO THERE'S AN INCENTIVE TO NOT GOOD . JUST KEEP YOUR AND SO FTL. THEY'VE ALL FOUGHT THROUGH THAT SO THOSE THOSE SPOTS WOULD HAVE HIGH TURN AROUND. I THINK THAT WAS THAT WAS TIED TO THE STATE.
LANGUAGE WHEN THE STATE OUTLAWED THE PARKING BECAUSE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THEY WERE PRANKSTERS PARKING CARS ACROSS ELECTRONIC PARKING, YOU KNOW THE TVS, PARKING SPACES AND THEN WHEN THE STATE ADOPTED THE LAW THAT SAID ONLY ELECTRIC VEHICLES COULD PARK IN THOSE SPACES. THE BALANCE TO THAT WAS OKAY. WELL NOW MAKE THEM AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST SO THAT SOMEONE HAS A RESERVED PARKING SPACE FOR ALL DAY. EVERY TIME THEY COME ANYWHERE, AND SO YOU CAN'T JUST PARK IN IT AND HAVE YOUR CAR SITTING THERE AS A PARKING SPACE. IT'S INTENDED TO BE A CHARGING SPACE. NOT A PARKING CLOCK IS TICKING. ONCE YOU'RE DONE, CHARGED, YOU GET A NOTICE ON YOUR PHONE. IF IT'S A LEVEL THREE DONE. PULL YOUR CAR OUT OR YOU'RE PAYING. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT? TESLA SUPERCHARGER. YOU PAY MORE WHEN IT'S DONE CHARGING THEN WHEN IT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A CHARGING SPACE AND OUT OF PARKING. SO IS THERE A WAY TO GO FURTHER WITH, SAY THOSE TWO OCCASIONS PIANOS INTERESTED, BUT BUT 100% KEEPING IN MIND? AND STATING THE F B NL THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FUTURE PLANS, OR AT LEAST WE WANT TO KEEP THAT OPEN AND SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING A PARKING GARAGE ON SAILFISH PARKING LOT. I WAS. WELL FARGO. THE ISSUE IS THAT REALLY A TIME SENSITIVE THE WAY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE BUCKETS OF MONEY WORK AROUND. IT'S A HIGH TURN AROUND AND NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULDN'T CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
BUT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE PLACE THOSE CHARGERS. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WOULD CONCERN THE FUTURE IS THE EXPANSION TO TWO MORE SPOTS FOR SIX SPOTS. I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE FTL WAIT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, SAYING WAIT, I'M JUST SAYING, CONSULT THAT A LOOK, IT'S SELFISH PARKING ROD RIDE. IF WE WERE GOING TO CONVERT THIS TO A PARKING GARAGE. COULD WE HAVE A TRANSFORMER AND FOR EVIE, CHARGING STATIONS ON THE GROUND FLOOR HERE AND STILL DIRECT THE PARKING GARAGE AROUND IT? I DON'T THINK SO. THEY'RE GOING TO BULLDOZE THE ENTIRE AREA. IF THEY'RE GONNA BUILD, WE'RE GONNA BUILD A PARKING GARAGE. THERE IS NOT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN BUILD A PARKING GARAGE AROUND IT. UM BUT THE WELLS FARGO SIDE OF A LOT, UM, IT'S 10 YEARS. AT LEAST THEY WILL GO. IN THEIR TERMS. YEAH I BELIEVE SO.
WE NEGOTIATED THE QANTAS PARK ONE DOWN FROM 20 TO 15. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ROOM HERE ON THIS ONE. UM SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE WELLS FARGO THING. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THE WELLS FARGO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH SOME NEW PLANS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE STEWART MUSE LOCATION. SO WE'LL EVALUATE THAT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THAT'S FEASIBLE LOCATION, AND IF IT IS, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK A AGREEMENT WITH FBL THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ALL. UM OKAY WITH AND THEN IF YOU ALSO WOULD LIKE WE CAN BRING YOU BACK AN INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THE AREA INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, THE THAT AND THEN THE IF YOU'RE STILL WANT TO PURSUE AN RFP, WE CAN PUT AN RFP OUT THERE THAT IS THAT THAT HAS A REVENUE GENERATOR COMPONENT AND TO SEE IF WE GET ANY BITES. I'M CERTAINLY FINE WITH THAT, OUTSIDE OF WHERE WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF PARKING SPACE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN , WHAT ELSE DO WE OWN, BUT, YEAH , PART PART, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE ON THE PARK SITUATION. I HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT ANY HOW IT MAY AFFECT GRANTS, RIGHT? BUT THAT IS A UM BUT THAT IS THAT IS A DEFINITELY A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
BUT UM BUT AS WE'RE, BUT WE COULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT PARTS. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT PARKS IS A GREAT LOCATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN GO CHARGE WHILE YOU'RE GOING THERE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO GO AND SPEND A FEW HOURS AT A PARK OR AND I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY AT LEVEL TWO CHARGERS, WHICH TAKE LONGER IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY GRANTS THAT IT WOULD AFFECT THE PARKING LOT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM SHEPHERDS PARK, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A LOCATION FOR SOME BUT. THERE WOULD BE THERE ALSO WOULD HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT POPPLETON CREEK DOG PARK. THERE WOULD OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE TO HAVE FOUR SPACES.
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LEVEL TWO. SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT A LEVEL TWO. EXCUSE ME. WE MIGHT ONLY NEED TO DO ONE OR TWO SPACES. BUT I DON'T KNOW IT DEPENDS ON AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW. BE LIKE I SAID, RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING . I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES ARE LOOKING FOR AND THE ONE OF THE I GUESS, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF DOING IN OUR API, UM, IS TO TEST THAT WATER AND FIND OUT WE DO AN R P AND WE GET BACK ZERO RESPONSE. WE KNOW THAT THE TIMING IS NOT RIGHT AND BUT AS I THINK HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN AS THE FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN READING IN THE IN THE E V WORLD IS THE WORLD IS RAPIDLY. HEADING TO THAT. I THINK THAT THE TESLA TRUCK IS SOLD OUT TO 2026. THE FORD LIGHTNING TRUCK IS SOLD OUT. LIKE 270,000 UNITS. UH FOR IN, LIKE, THREE YEARS WORTH OF PRODUCTION. UM TESLA, TESLA REGULAR CARS ARE SOLD OUT THROUGH 2024 2024. NOBODY'S THERE, NOT EVEN TAKING ORDERS ON THEM RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE STILL THEY'RE SOLD OUT SO FAR IN ADVANCE, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE TVS AND IF AND ANYTHING THAT HELPS. THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IT'S PART OF OUR PART OF OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF REQUIRES US TO LOOK AT THIS SO RIGHT. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO SELL ANYBODY ON IT. I THINK I JUST THINK THAT IS THE RFP. YOU WANT IT? TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT OF REVENUE GENERATION. I THINK IT CAN MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD. I MEAN, BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WRITE TO. YOU DON'T NEED IT. I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE A COST TO THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT STRUCTURE. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT US LOSING THOSE SPACES.THEN YOU DO ABOUT THAT. SO. I DON'T NEED A COST. I MEAN REVENUE GENERATION CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE REVENUE GENERATION. I HAVE HAD MY MARCHING ORDERS. IT'S 7 19 PM MONDAY, JUNE 13TH AND I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MEETING TODAY.
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