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GOOD. OKAY THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. MARINE VICE CHAIR, BROWNFIELD. BOARD MEMBER RICH
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YOU'RE REMEMBER STRONG. REMEMBER MASSING. REMEMBER MATHERS. REMEMBER BY TALI. GREAT IF EVERYBODY WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. MY PLEASURE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.REPUBLICAN WHICH IS ONE NATION. UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
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FANTASTIC UM, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO IMPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? SOBER.SECOND ON ALL IN FAVOR. WE DO NEED TO GENERAL OR YOU NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ALL IN FAVOR
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OPPOSED. OKAY GREAT. UM WE HAVE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? YOU HAVE A SECOND I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR. BY ANY OPPOSED. OKAY GREAT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY FANTASTIC.[2. WATERBLASTING - MAJOR AMENDMENT TO IPUD (QUASI-JUDICIAL) (RC) ORDINANCE NUMBER 2497-2022: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE WATERBLASTING INDUSTRIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (IPUD) LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARKET STREET AND WEST SIDE OF COMMERCE AVE TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF 28,327 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL/WAREHOUSE BUILDING; APPROVING A FINAL SITE PLAN; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS AND CONDITIONS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]
OKAY. FIRST ITEM UP. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR KEVIN FREEMAN PRESENTING TODAY UH, THIS ITEM, I'LL READ THE TITLE OUT ITS ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO FOUR NINE SEVEN DASH. 2022 ON ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE WATER BLASTING INDUSTRIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT UD LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARKET STREET AND WEST SIDE OF COMMERCE AVENUE TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF 28,936 FEET. OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING.APPROVING A FINAL SITE PLAN PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK. PROVIDING FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS AND CONDITIONS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT HAVING JUST CONSULTED WITH THE APPLICANT THERE. IN THE ORDINANCE TERRORISM DIFFERENT SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING. PROPOSED UM , THIS IS THE CORRECT SQUARE FOOTAGE APPEARS ON THE SITE PLAN. MAYBE THE DOCUMENTS IN THE APPLICATION THAT MAY NEED AMENDING ONCE WE GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN TO CLARIFY THE CORRECT NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET. SO THE SITE IS AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING OPERATION, LOCATED OFF THE SOUTH OF. MARKET STREET AND WEST OF COMMERCE AVENUE.
SAID THE REQUEST IS TOO. ASK FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING OPERATION. THE SITE CONCURRENTLY CONSISTS OF 32,250 SQUARE FEET OF ONE STORY WAREHOUSE BUILDING AND 61,644 SQUARE FEET. TWO STORY BUILDING. AND ITS ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WERE APPROVED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL INDUSTRIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 23 68 IN 2018. TODAY THE PETITIONER IS PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL 28,936 SQUARE FEET. ONE STORY WAREHOUSE EXPANSION. UM, THEY. APPLICATION IS THEREFORE CONSIDERED TO BE A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PREVIOUS UM, HE YOU D ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 23 68 2018. AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THAT. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. CONSISTS OF THE BUILDINGS, LANDSCAPING AND STORMWATER TREATMENT POND. FUTURE LAND USES INDUSTRIAL.
STUFF LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE USES A CONSISTENT WITH THE INDUSTRY OR FUTURE LAND USE. AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
GOLD STATEMENT A. AND ALSO POLICY 11 8 POINT A 1.4. THE CITY WILL ENCOURAGE THE DESIGNATION AND PRESERVATION OF INDUSTRIAL LAND FOR INDUSTRIAL USES AND POLICY. 11.82 POINT ONE
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THE CITY WILL ENCOURAGE THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY AND OR DEVELOPMENT OF NEW BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS AS FEASIBLE AND APPLICABLE IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF EXISTING PUBLIC SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF. CITY COMMISSIONS DIRECTION TO STAFF TO ENCOURAGE INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IN THIS PART OF THE CITY. UM I DON'T. I'M NOT JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON RECORD. THE SITE PLAN PROPOSALS. THE NEXT SESSION TO AN EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING. WHICH WILL OCCUPY A. EXISTING IMPERVIOUS LOCATION. TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING OPERATION. AND THAT THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY, AND I THINK THERE'S AN EXPLANATION OF THE REQUIREMENT AND NEED FOR THIS ADDITIONAL SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL FACILITIES AND WORKFORCE ON ON SITE. AS PART OF THAT, UM, LOCATION. THERE WILL BE THERE. REMOVAL OF A NUMBER OF THEM. IRELAND'S WITHIN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT. AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A RELOCATION OF SOME TREES. TOGETHER WITH THE PLACEMENT OF 17 TREES WITHIN THE LITTORAL ZONE. OF THE EXISTING STORMWATER TREATMENT POND, AND THIS IS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF OPEN SPACE DUE TO THE REMOVAL OF PARKING BAY LANDSCAPE ISLANDS. THEY THAT'S THE ARCHITECTURE AS YOU WOULD SEE IT FROM MARKET STREET. YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE EXTENSION ESSENTIALLY FROM COMMERCE AVENUE. IN RESPECT OF STORMWATER. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED DETAILS, WHICH CONFIRMS STORM WATER QUALITY TREATMENT WILL BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO DISCHARGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY AND SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT STANDARDS AND PERMITS. ALLOWABLE DISCHARGE RATE WILL BECOME SYSTEM WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE PERMIT, WHICH ALREADY USES SOME INSIGHT. UM FULL STORMWATER REVIEW AND FINAL ENGINEERING PLANS WILL BE REQUIRED AT SITE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS STAGE AND THAT'S WHEN THE ENGINEERING AND. ENGINEERING PLANS WILL BE FULLY CONSIDERED AND EXAMINE. TONIGHT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE L PA NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE VERY QUICKLY. THEY CONSIDERATION OF THE EXISTING LAND USE PATTERNS. UM STUFFS ANALYSIS LOOKS AT THE ADJACENT USES, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL AND CONSIST OF WAREHOUSE AND SMALL MANUFACTURING USES, EVEN TO THE SOUTH IN THE COUNTY. IT'S PRIMARILY SMALL MANUFACTURING AND STORAGE USES. THE POSSIBLE CREATION OF AN ISOLATED LAND USE CLASSIFICATION UNRELATED TO ADJACENT AND NEARBY CLASSIFICATIONS. SIMILARLY THE LAND USES ALREADY APPROVED AND FORMS PART OF A WIDER COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHICH HAS BEEN IN THAT LOCATION IN THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THE POPULATION. THAT PATTERN DENSITY PATTERN OF THE AREA AND POSSIBLE INCREASE IN OVER TWO OVERTAXING OF THE LOAD ON PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, UTILITIES AND STREETS. IT'S REALLY NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR EXTENSION AND NO RESIDENTIAL ADDITIONS ARE PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. POSSIBLE OVERLOADING OF THE CITY'S SEWAGE COLLECTION, TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL FACILITIES. PUBLIC WORKS CONFIRMED THAT ADEQUATE FACILITIES EXIST. POSSIBLE OVERLOADING OF THE CITY'S DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE STORM WATCH SYSTEM IS ALREADY DESIGNED AND FUNCTIONING TO CITY AND SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT STANDARDS. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THE AND THEN I WILL SIS OF THAT, UM, STORMWATER SYSTEM WILL BE FULLY EXAMINED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT. THE EXISTING CLASSIFICATION BOUNDARIES IN RELATION TO EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UM, STUFF ANDN OF AN APPROPRIATE EXISTING USE. SO THE EXISTENCE OF CHANGED OR CHANGING CONDITIONS WHICH MAKE THE PASSAGE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT NECESSARY OR APPROPRIATE. UM THE SITUATION THAT WE SEE THE LPC. THIS APPLICATION BEFORE THEM TONIGHT IS RELATED TO THE APPLICANTS REQUIREMENT AND NEED TO RETAIN JOBS FROM OTHER LOCATIONS AGAIN. THE APPLICANTS AGENT WILL BE[00:10:01]
ABLE TO EXPAND ON THAT. I HOPE THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT UPON LIVING CONDITIONS IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE SITE BEING LOCATED IN THE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AREA, IT SHOULD NOT AFFECT EXISTING LIVING CONDITIONS CLOSE BY THE IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOW OF LIGHT AND AIR TO ADJACENT AREAS AGAIN. SINGLE STORY. USE THE LIMITED IMPACTS ON THAT. THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROPERTY VALUES IN THE ADJACENT AREA STUFF. CONSIDER IT'S UNLIKELY TO HAVE ADVERSE EFFECT UPON PROPERTY VALUES. THE IMPACT HAS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS UPON IMPROVEMENT OR DEVELOPMENT OF ADJACENT PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING REGULATIONS. WE DON'T SEE ANY IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE EXISTENCE OF THE ADEQUATE SITES IN THE CITY FOR THE PROPOSED LAND USE CLASSIFICATION ALREADY PERMITTING SUCH USE. THE PROPOSED EXPANSION IS OF AN EXISTING BUSINESS OPERATION. AND SO. IMPLEMENTS AN EFFICIENT USE OF LAND AND RESOURCES IN THAT LOCATION. SO HAVING SAID ALL THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE AS CONDITIONED. AND FOR THE L P A TO MOVE TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENTATION FROM THE PETITIONER. HI MY NAME IS DANA WITH CDC REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. SO THE PROPOSED EXPANSION IS LIKE KEVIN SAID. IT'S GOING OVER AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. UM, AND IT'S JUST HELPING EXPAND. COMPANY WHICH WOULD BRING JOBS TO THE AREA. AND IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE CURRENT SYSTEM WITH SOUTH FLORIDA ALSO PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE, SO THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS FROM THE REMOVAL OF THE PARKING ISLANDS WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN THAT EXTRA STORAGE AREA. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL GET TO THAT. JUST A MINUTE, OKAY? THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY? CAN I HAVE MS JOAN GOODRICH FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. GOOD EVENING, JOAN GOODRICH WITH THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY HERE TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANTS REQUEST TONIGHT, UH, ASKING YOU TO ALSO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR HOT TECHNOLOGIES. IT'S BEEN THE PDBS PRIVILEGE TO ASSIST HAWK TECHNOLOGIES AND THEIR CONTINUED GROWTH HERE IN THE CITY OF STEWART WITHIN MARTIN COUNTY. UM AS BEING ONE OF OUR TOP MANUFACTURING HEADQUARTER COMPANIES. IT'S JUST QUITE EXCITING TO SEE THEIR POTENTIAL CONTINUED GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE THANK THEM FOR THE DIRECT BUSINESS CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ONLINE? OKAY. BOARD COMMENT. OKAY QUESTIONS. OKAY YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR.UM. SO I DROVE ACTUALLY DROVE THROUGH THE SITE YESTERDAY, WHICH WAS OPEN, SO THAT WAS NICE. I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH IT. SO ALL THAT MATERIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY JUST LYING THERE AND THAT BASICALLY IN THAT PAVED AREA, THAT'S ALL JUST GOING TO GO INSIDE OR IS YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STAND UP HERE. YES FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING. UM IT WOULD BE USED FOR JUST WHERE HOT LIKE STORAGE WAREHOUSE FACILITY TO HELP. WITH JUST SOME OF THAT. SO STORMWATER DRAINAGE . THIS IS IT'S COMPLICATED WHERE HARD IS RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF AND OVERALL OVERALL, WHAT'S IT CALLED CABS? STEWART MASTER STORMWATER PLAN? YEAH. SO YOU HUG WORKS WITH ALL THE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THERE, TOO. ENSURE THAT OKAY? YES YOU SAID THE ONLY STORM WATER THE ONLY DRAINAGE INFORMATION WE HAVE WAS CREATED IN 2018 2018 OF MY CORRECT SO ATTACHED TO THE SF
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WMD? YES SO THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT AIR P PERMIT, WHICH WAS DONE WHEN THE ORIGINAL EXPANSION WAS CREATED FOR THAT SITE, UM, ANALYZED THE DRAINAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH DRY RETENTION AND STORAGE BEFORE RELEASING INTO THAT OVERALL MASTER. STORM WATER SYSTEM. UM AND KNOWING MOVEMENTS HAVE NECESSARILY BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN, SO THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE THE SAME. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE EXPANSION. IT'S ALREADY ON THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA, WHICH IS WHERE THAT STORMWATER CALCULATIONS COME FROM, SO IT'S REALLY A NEGLIGIBLE INCREASE. UM ONCE WE MOVED TO CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WOULD BE LOOKED FURTHER AND WE WOULD GO IN FOR AN AARP MODIFICATION. MODIFICATION SO THAT'S PART OF KELVIN IS WHAT'S YOU WOULD REQUIRE THAT TO BE UPDATED? YES, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. OKAY SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT 2018 REPORTS SOMETHING STRUCK OUT TO ME IS STUCK OUT TO ME BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE. AND IT'S ON PAGE 31. IT SAYS THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PERMITTED CALCULATIONS DID NOT CONSIDER THE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED PORTION OF OUR PROJECT. F K A FLY BOB WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF NOTE 14. IT WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE MASTERS SYSTEM UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT 100% ON SITE RETENTION HAD BEEN PROVIDED UPON FURTHER SURVEY WORK AND FEEL TO GET INVESTIGATION BY NBC. IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT THERE IS NO ON SITE RETENTION PROVIDED DRAINAGE FROM THE DEVELOPED PROPERTY DRENCHED WITH DITCH AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE RUNOFF IS CONVEYED VIA THE DITCH INTO THE NODE 14 LIKE FREELY AND ON TREATED. YOU. GOOD MORNING TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED HERE. WE THOUGHT YOU DID THIS AND YOU DID NOTHING LIKE IT OR WHAT HAPPENED. THAT IS A THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. UM SO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PROBABLY RUN A NEW MODEL ON JUST TO VERIFY THAT IT DOES. PROVIDE THE RETENTION FOR THAT, UM, I THINK MOST LIKELY THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. IT'S PART OF THAT OVERALL MASTERS STORMWATER.TREATMENT CENTER, SO THAT'S KIND OF THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THAT WAS BEING TREATED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE ANY EXPANSION WAS CREATED, UM BUT I THINK WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET AND ACCOUNT FOR ANYTHING THAT WAS. OKAY, SO WHEN I'M LOOKING SO WE HAVE INFORMATION FROM 2018 . WE HAD INFORMATION FROM 2012. AND THIS IS FROM SF WMD AND THEY TALK ABOUT SPECIAL CONDITIONS. WHICH ARE OBLIGATIONS OF NOT JUST YOU. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT THIS OVER GIGANTIC. DISTRICT BUSINESS DRAINAGE DISTRICT. UM. SO WHEN IT SAYS WHEN THE PERMITTED THIS IS ITEM 10 ON PAGE 67 UNDER SPECIAL CONDITIONS SHALL PROVIDE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN ORDER TO REMOVE ALL TRAP SEDIMENTS, DEBRIS AND VEGETATION. AND I READ FURTHER THAT THIS IS THIS IS WHAT FOULS THE SYSTEM UP LITERALLY THAT UNLESS ALL THESE ELEMENTS ARE PROPERLY MAINTAINED. IT DOESN'T WORK. HMM NOT THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE CURRENTLY WHAT THE FACT WE HAVE NO RAIN, BUT DOES. HOG. ACTIVELY INSPECT AND MAINTAIN THE GIANT RETENTION THEY HAVE ON SITE. I MEAN, IS THERE A SYSTEM FOR ACCOMPLISHING THAT? EXCUSE ME FOR THE RECORD. BRAD CURRY WITH THE D. C UM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A MASTER ASSOCIATION THAT MAINTAINS THAT RETENTION AREA WAS WONDERING NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT. IT'S A SOUTH FLORIDA REQUIREMENT THAT ENFORCES THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY, OKAY? AND THIS IS JUST MY OWN CURIOSITY, IT SAYS IT'S PREHISTORIC OR HISTORIC OUTER FACTS SUCH AS POTTERY OR CERAMICS, STONE TOOLS OR DUGOUT CANOES OR FIND YOU HAVE TO STOP CONSTRUCTION DID THAT HAPPEN? STANDARD WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL.
YEAH UM. SO I GUESS MY OTHER WOULD JUST GO BACK TO THAT. APPARENTLY IT'S THOUGHT YOU HAD TO HAVE THAT RETENTION AND I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. OKAY GOOD ENGINEER LIKE DANA IS I WAS HAVE THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TWO SEPARATE PARCELS. WHEN HAWK TECHNOLOGIES BOUGHT THE PARCEL. IT HAD AN EXISTING BUILDING ON IT, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE MASTER PERMIT. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT THAT EXISTING BUILDING DID NOT SAID IT HAD NO OVER DRAINAGE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T AND THEN WE COMBINE THE PIECES
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AND WE CAN WE CREATED THE DRAINAGE THAT WAS REQUIRED. SO THE ORIGINAL PIECE THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL BUILDING RIGHT ON THE CORNER. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT, OR NOT. THAT UM, THAT MR CRACKER PURCHASED, HE EXPANDED THAT BUILDING AND INCLUDED A SEPARATE PARCEL AND THEN COMBINE THE TWO PARCELS. SO THAT WAS THE REASON IT SAID THAT THE ORIGINAL BUILDING HAD NO DRAINAGE, BUT THEN WHEN WE EXPANDED IT AND COMBINED IT WITH THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST, AND TO THE SOUTH, UM WE WERE ABLE TO ADD TO ACCOMPANY THE DRAINAGE, SO I THINK THAT'S THE REASON THAT REPORT SAYS THAT I MEAN THAT GIANT? YES SIR. CORRECT. THAT IS A LARGER ATTENTION.CORRECT? YES SIR. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS. OKAY.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL. I LIKE SECONDS SECOND. BOARD MEMBER STRONG YES. VICE CHAIR. BROWNFIELD YES, LAUREN? YES. REMEMBER RICH? YES. REMEMBER MATTERS REMEMBER, VITALI? YES. RIGHT FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE A STAFF UPDATE?
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YEAH. THANK YOU. HI MARY KENDALL CITY CLERK FOR THE RECORD. I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY, UM I'LL TAKE ONLY TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. IF I CLOSE OUT THIS AND OPEN UP SOMETHING REAL QUICK.THERE WE GO. OKAY I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU. JUST FOR A MOMENT. UM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE THE EXACT TIME FRAME BUT THE L P A AS WELL AS OUR CRB FORD WERE ALL PROVIDED CITY ASSIGNED EMAIL ADDRESSES, AND I KNOW THAT SOME BOARD MEMBERS, UM, HAVE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH THEM OR NOT USING THEM, SO WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEND OUT A REMINDER.
TO, UM YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE EVERYBODY START UP, AND IF WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WE WANTED TO HELP EVERYBODY OUT WITH THEM. THESE EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE PROVIDED FOR YOUR PROTECTION AS WELL AS THE CITY'S PROTECTION. SO AS MEMBERS OF THE L PA, YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW. THIS BASICALLY MEANS THAT ANY COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT ANY MATTER THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE BOARD IN THE FUTURE OR ANY CITY RELATED BUSINESSES CONSIDERED PUBLIC RECORD AND PUBLIC RECORD LAW APPLIES. SO UM, I DO HAVE THE FLORIDA STATUTE OF WHAT A PUBLIC RECORD IS, BUT I BELIEVE YOU ALL ARE FULLY AWARE OF THAT. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ IT, I CAN, BUT UM OKAY, BUT BASICALLY THE PUBLIC RECORD LAW APPLIES TO RECORDS DEVELOPED BY THE APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS, ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS EMPLOYEES. UM ALL TYPES OF RECORDS, INCLUDING WRITTEN COMMUNICATION LETTERS, NOTES AND EMAILS, SO WE'RE KIND OF CONCENTRATING ON THE EMAILS TODAY. UM, THE. BASICALLY UM, THE L P A AS WELL AS LIKE I SAID, THE CRB TYPICALLY HAVE THE PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE THE BOARD THAT ALSO THEN GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION. AND THOSE ARE THE MOST COMMONLY REQUESTED, UM , PROJECTS THAT WE GET FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS THIS BOARD AND PARTICULARLY KNOWS BEST WITH THE COSTCO PROJECT WAS UM, VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU. THERE WAS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT CAME IN FOR ALL COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING COSTCO , AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD HAD TO PRODUCE THEIR RECORDS. UM WE HAD TO RELY ON YOU TO SEARCH AND SEND US EVERYTHING TO COMPLY WITH THAT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND WE I FELT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT WE WERE RELYING ON EACH ONE OF YOU, AND THAT PUTS YOU IN KIND OF A DIFFICULT POSITION AS WELL AS US SO WITH HAVING THE SCENE CITY EMAIL ADDRESS ALREADY ASSIGNED. WE DON'T HAVE TO INVOLVE YOU AT ALL. WE GO TO OUR SEARCH ENGINE, AND WE LOOK UP THAT CITY EMAIL ADDRESS AND WE PULL ALL OF THOSE RECORDS OURSELVES. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BOTHER YOU. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HELPFUL. UM SO, BASICALLY, UM, UP THERE ON THE UM, SCREEN. I JUST KIND OF HAVE BASICALLY WHAT THE CITY EMAIL ADDRESS IS. IT'S YOUR FIRST INITIAL LAST NAME AND THEN AT CI DOT STUART FL DOT US THE SAME EMAIL ADDRESS THAT'S ASSIGNED TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, SO IT'S PRETTY COMMON. IT'S THE SAME THING IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL ANY CITY EMPLOYEE, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF USE THAT SAME THING. SANDSTROM IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. HE'S OUR WONDERFUL I T PERSON WHO RECORDS ALL OF OUR MEETINGS. HE IS HAPPY TO HELP ANYONE IF THEY'RE HAVING ANY TROUBLE, UM, SETTING UP THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS. HE'S. AVAILABLE EVEN TO HELP RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING, OR I CAN SEND HIS EMAIL ADDRESS, AND YOU CAN CONNECT WITH HIM AFTER YOU KNOW THIS
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DURING THIS WEEK OR WHATEVER. WE'RE ASKING THAT EVERYBODY COMPLIED BY AUGUST 15TH. BECAUSE ALL COMMUNICATIONS FOR AGENDAS FOR THESE MEETINGS AND CITY COMMUNICATIONS WE'D LIKE TO BE SENDING STRICTLY THROUGH YOUR CITY EMAIL ADDRESS. COME AUGUST 15TH. SO, UM. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I HAVE ONE IF WE GET AN EMAIL FORWARDED TO OUR PERSONAL OR WORK EMAIL DO WITHIN AFFORDED TO OUR CITY STEWART AND THEN FORWARDED TO YOU. YOU COULD LITERALLY JUST FORWARD IT TO THE CITY OF STEWART. UNLESS IT NEEDS TO COME TO ME, THEN STORING IT RIGHT THERE IN YOUR CITY. EMAIL SERIOUS STORY. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. UM JORDAN'S WILL BE EMAILING. I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES SHE DOES REMINDERS TO THE BOARD AND THINGS LIKE THAT REMINDER CALLS SOMETIMES THINGS LIKE THAT. I DO REMINDERS AS WELL. IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO HER IF SHE WANTS TO SEND HER OCCASIONAL REMINDER, BUT AS FAR AS SENDING AGENDAS AND REMINDER , EMAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO THROUGH YOUR CITY EMAIL ADDRESS.SO, UM PERCENT. OR TIME. I DON'T HAVE THIS. DIFFERENT. YOU SEE DIFFERENT STUFF AND NONSENSE. THANK YOU AGAIN. I FORGOT THAT THE LAST TIME SO THANK YOU. UM I DID WANT TO MENTION ALSO, I HAVE, UM WHAT'S UP? OKAY. I'M SORRY, JACK. JUST QUICKLY. I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS NOT COMPLIED WITH THIS. YEAH. AND I HAVEN'T EVEN LIKE LOGGED IN OR ATTEMPTED TO LOG IN. WILL YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO OUR PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT I? YEAH I SET UP YOUR PASSWORD. YOU CAN SET PASSWORD OUT FOR ATTENTION. BEAUTY BOX. AND WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL ACTUALLY DOES EXIST JUST YES. YOU'RE NOT AND ALSO, I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO SEND THIS BECAUSE I KNOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOT USED THEIR CITY EMAIL ADDRESS, AND I'M GONNA BE SENDING YOU INFORMATION. UM, A FOLLOW UP EMAIL TOMORROW MORNING, AND I'M GOING TO SEND IT TO BOTH EMAIL ADDRESSES. SO IN CASE YOU'RE ONE OF THE ONES WHO DOES USE THE CITY EMAIL, YOU'LL GET THAT AND YOU'LL GET IT ON YOUR OLD EMAIL. BUT STRICTLY AS A AUGUST 15TH.
WE'RE GOING TO CUT OFF THE I DON'T MEAN IT LIKE IT'S IN A BETTER BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, STOP USING THAT, AND OFFICIALLY WE WANT PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE WATCHING FOR THEIR CITY EMAIL ADDRESS. DOES THE PASSWORD CHANGE EVERY 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING? BECAUSE MINE WAS WORKING AND THEN JUST STOP WORKING FIRE LIKE BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 60 OR 90 DAYS. THEY WILL INSPIRE. OKAY HOW DO I GET NOTIFICATIONS BECAUSE IT JUST STOPPED WORKING LITTLE WE CAN TRY. OKAY? YEAH THAT'S WHAT I NEED CAN NOT ONLY SET THE PASSWORD YOURSELF. FOR SQUIRING. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY TO DO IT WITH ONE OF WORDS. OKAY? OKAY? FROM THE STATION. YEAH IT'S UP TO LIKE 26 OR 27. 3 90 DAYS. RICH. WHEN I CANCEL. YEAH HAVE HIS OWN BUT I DO ASK, UM, BACK WITH ORIENTATION TIME WE HAD PROVIDED , UH KIND OF A PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAID HELPFUL TOOLS FOR ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND IT KIND OF PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT MEETINGS AND GENERAL RESOURCES AND LINKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M GOING TO BE SENDING THAT OUT TO YOU AGAIN WILL PROVIDE YOU A PAPER COPY TONIGHT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SIGN OFF ON IT TONIGHT, IT DOES LIST ALL OF THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR YOUR BOARD. SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN PRINT. SEND IT TO ME AT A LATER DATE OR YOU CAN SIGN IT AND GIVE IT BACK TO ME TONIGHT, BUT IT JUST CONFIRMS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED IT. AND YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, RECEIVED THE INFORMATION AND THE MESSAGE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD INFORMATION. CAN I JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND
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THE SUNSHINE LAW? NOT THAT I HAVE DONE THIS. BUT ARE WE ALLOWED TO SEND? EACH OTHER? THIS OR THAT LIKE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED? TO TALK TO EACH OTHER UNLESS YOU IN THE IT? THAT WOULD COME TO THE. ALLOWED TO REPLY TO THAT EMAIL. NOT ALLOWED TO APPLY TO.RESPONDING TO THE NUMBER OF THE PUBLIC WITH YOUR OWN RESPONSE IN YOUR HOME PERSONAL THOUGHTS.
PERSON. IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE UNTIL THE FIVE YOU'RE EXPRESSING THOSE THOUGHTS, FIVE REQUESTS ALL IT GOES TO THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS NOW. YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING, TELLING THEM HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT YOUR POTENTIAL OKAY? YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND STAFFS IN THE GROUP EMAIL. WE ALWAYS AT THE BOTTOM STATE REMIND Y'ALL OKAY? THAT'S THE WHOLE TIME WE EVER REALLY GET PICKED ON THIS ONE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO ALL RIGHT? NEEDS ANYTHING ELSE.
JUST LET US SAY BEING TASTIC. ARE THERE ANY OTHER STAFF UPDATES WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, UM, JUST ONE MINOR UPDATE. WE I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME VACANCIES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ACTIVELY PER HIGHER. TOO. PLANNING POSITION.
THIS. TIME. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE MORE. TO BRING SOME MORE. PROJECTS. FOR YOU. IN THE MEAN, HAVE. IT OUT. WITH. TWO. THAT WILL BE HELPING US. DOING. THANK YOU. SO WHEN ONE LAST THING TO, SINCE YOU GUYS WERE THE THAT ACTUALLY THE COSTCO STUFF. HE SAID. BY THE WAY I LOOK FORWARD TO ABOUT 12 DAYS AGO, AND HE SAID THERE WAS NOT A CHANCE THAT THE CITY'S CASE WAS GOING TO MEET THE AUGUST 23 BOARD CRITERIA. AND HE SAID TODAY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE AUGUST 23RD MEETING, BUT IT WON'T BE SET IN STONE. UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK, SO HOW KNOW SOMETIME THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, WHICH BY THE JOB TIME IN THE WORLD CUP TALLAHASSEE UM, BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT DOES LOOK RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE FINAL HERE IS GONNA HURT ME HEARD AUGUST 23RD. INTEL. OKAY I DON'T KNOW. WHERE THAT GOES FROM THERE. THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES ARE IF CARTWRIGHT PREVAILS, IT WOULD GET REMANDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY. WHAT ISSUE WAS, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMANDED TO BE ADDRESSED. IF THE CITY PREVAILS. IT COULD BE ONE OF TWO OPTIONS. IT CAN BE EITHER THAT THE CABINET ENTERS A RULING AND SAYS WITH THE RULING IS OR THE THEY CABINET COULD REMANDED BACK TO THE L A. OR THE L. J JUDGE, WHICH IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE FOR ADDITIONAL OR FURTHER HEARING ON THE MATTER WITH X Y Z DIRECTION. THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME. JUST BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY LIKE STARTING OVER AND HAVING THE TRIAL OVER YET FULL APPEAL OF FULL EVERYTHING AGAIN. BOTH SIDES END UP UNHAPPY. IT'S EITHER YOU KNOW REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME WOULD BE BETTER JUST TO GET AN OUTCOME. NEVER BE OVER, BUT THAT'S NOT. YOU KNOW MY CHOICE. THAT'S THERE IS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND AN HONESTLY I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY WANTS TO GET REMANDED JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE ANYWAY. BECAUSE THEY ARE YOU REQUIRED TO ATTEND THE HEARING. I AM REQUIRED TO PRESENT THE CITY'S CASE. OKAY SO YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY DRIVE THE SAME PRESENTATION. UM IT'S A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION BECAUSE I'M ADDRESSING ESSENTIALLY. WHAT I BELIEVE WAS SUFFICIENT FOR THE FOR THE CITIES. DUE PROCESS AND BURDEN OF PROOF TO SHOW THAT THE CITY PROVED AND THEN WHAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT THE JUDGE'S RULING TO THE EXTENT THAT IT HAD A BUNCH OF REFERENCES TO PROFFER TESTIMONY THAT WAS NOT ADMISSIBLE. IT WENT TO ZONING
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STUFF LIKE. YOU'RE GOING TO GET 10 OR 15 MINUTES. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE AND MY THEY TOLD US TO GIVE PROPOSED FINAL JUDGMENTS. MY MOTION WAS 74 PAGES LONG. AND THEY TOLD US TO LIMIT THE FINAL JUDGMENT TO 30 PAGES. BUT THE WAY THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW WORKS IS EVERY SINGLE EXCEPTION OR THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED MUST BE LISTED. WHAT DID WHAT THE RULING SAID, WHERE IT WAS IN THE ORDER. WHY IT SHOULD BE CHANGED. AND THEN WHAT? THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND THERE'S I THINK 54 EXCEPTIONS AND YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD DO HALF A PAGE FOR EXCEPTION, YOU'RE ALREADY AT YOU KNOW, 25 OR 30 PAGES LIKE THAT, AND SO WITHOUT DOING ANY OF THE POLICY REASONS OR CASE LAW OR ANY OF THE STUFF, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO 30 PAGE. BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT AS WELL AS I DO, SO IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THEM IS, BUT I KNOW THAT THE STAFF MEMBERS HAVE STAFF MEETINGS ON ALL THE MATTERS BEFORE THE BOARD ON THE 17TH. AND ON THOSE DAYS THEY WILL BE CONSULTING AND PREPARING THEIR PRESENTATIONS AS WELL. AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT THEIR PRESENTATION IS SIMILAR TO MINE . DID DID YOU CONSULT WITH OUTSIDE CONSOLE ON THIS NEXT STEP? I DID. I AM ACTUALLY HAD A MEMBER OF STEARNS WEAVER LAW FIRM, AS WELL AS ANOTHER MEMBER OF ANOTHER LAW FIRM, AS WELL, UM THAT BOTH ARE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW SPECIALISTS THAT ONLY DO FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS. IN FRONT OF THE FLORIDA CABINET. THAT'S ALL THEY DO. WHICH TO ME IS I MEAN FOR A CABINET HEARD FOUR OF THEM LAST YEAR. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT BUT MANY WERE THERE LAST YEAR. THEY WERE THEY HEARD FOUR BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WERE FILED, BUT THEY HEARD FOR AND SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOUR MEETINGS, SO THERE WAS ONE AT EACH MEETING. UM IN FACT, THERE'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE TOO AT THIS MEETING, AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS UNUSUAL. UM JUST BECAUSE I THINK THEY ONLY DO ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THE FUTURE LAND USE AGENDAS OR HEARINGS HAVE GIGANTIC RECORDS AND DOCKETS AND PAPERWORK ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, WHEREAS OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE ON THAT SAME HEARING DATE. THAT'S GOING TO BE SCHEDULED AS THERE'S BELIEVE I TALKED TO THE DEPUTY YESTERDAY AND COMPLETELY AND REALLY MATTER, BUT THEY SAID THEY HAD THE GUY SAID TO ME, THERE'S 13 OR 14 SUBMERGED LAND LEASE APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ARE ALSO SCHEDULED FOR THE CABINET TO HEAR THOSE ON THE APRIL 20 AUGUST 23RD AGENDA. SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT GO ON DURING THE DAY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE ATTORNEY ON THE OTHER SIDE ON ROBINSON? I'M ASSUMING THAT IT'S JENNY. ASSUMING IT'S MR GRASSO. UM HE IS THE ONE THAT ARGUED THE UNDERLYING CASE. UM, I WOULDN'T BELIEVE ANY REASON THAT HE WOULDN'T BE THERE FOR THE HEARING. OKAY? THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION. ANYBODY WANT A SECOND? SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.