Oct 24, 2022 Joint CRA/CRB/CCM

[ROLL CALL]

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THEIR MEMBER COLLINS MEMBER RICH MEMBER CAMPENNI. VICE CHAIRPERSON DOOLEY. REMEMBER LEWIS. MEMBER MAKINSON. ONE MEMBER SHROFF. MEMBER WHO WELCOME. OKAY IF YOU PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PUNCH, BELIEVING IT. WEAKNESS STATES OF AMERICA. WHICH IS. ONE QUARTER TEETH.

OKAY SO BEFORE WE JUST WANTED TO EDUCATION THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP WAS THE FACT THAT NONE OF OUR C R B ONE REPLY. MR CAMPAIGNING ADVICES. OKAY SO APPRECIATE MR CAMPAIGN INVITING US NOW I THINK THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, UH SHOULD CONTACT OUR APPOINTEES AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM BECAUSE I THINK THE LAST JOINT MEETING. WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE NOT BEING HERE. UM I KNOW IT'S A VOLUNTEER BOARD, BUT UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE SHOW UP, SO OKAY, SO I HAD A REQUEST PRIOR TO THE MEETING. IF WE COULD TAKE ITEM THREE FIRST AND SKIP THE PRESENTATION, SO IF WE COULD HAVE AN APPROVED AND THEN GO BACK TO THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, MOVING THE ITEM NUMBER THREE TO WHOM THE FIRST POSITION MM HMM.

PROBLEM. 2ND 2ND. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUNER ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE

[3. LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR DOWNTOWN VALET PARKING SERVICES PROGRAM (RC): RESOLUTION No. 77-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA TO AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND THE PARKING SOLUTION TO UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE STUART HERITAGE MUSEUM AND CITY HALL PARKING LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPERATING A DOWNTOWN VALET PARKING SERVICES PROGRAM.]

THAT'S THE ONE BEHIND THE FEED STORE, AND THE BOARD DIRECTED THAT PARKING LOT BE INCLUDED, AND THEN, UM, STAFF ALSO INCLUDED PARKING ZONE TWO BASED ON DEMANDS FOR THE WEEKEND. SO IT WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE VALLEY OPERATOR TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THE LYRIC THEATER.

FLAGLER PLAYS COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR ANY SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING OVER THE WEEKEND TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL PARKING DEMAND FOR THE WEEKEND. UM AND BASED ON THAT DEMAND, THE OPERATOR COULD REQUESTS THE CITY TO, UH, USE THE PARKING ZONE TWO AND THEY WOULD NEED A WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. DOWNTOWN VALLEY PARKING PROGRAM WILL BE PROMOTED DURING THE SEASON SO IT WOULD BE FROM DECEMBER THROUGH MAY FROM THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY FROM 5 TO 10 PM, WHICH IS SIMILAR PROGRAM THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST , THE OPERATOR WILL CHARGE $5 FEES FOR THE VALLEY SERVICE TO OUR DOWNTOWN VISITORS LOOKING FOR CONVENIENT PARKING SPACES.

UM WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS. THE VALLEY OPERATOR HAS EXPRESSED THAT THE INSURANCE COST HAS GONE UP. UM SO TO UTILIZE BOTH PARKING LOT, THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR BOTH LOTS AND, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE. UM THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE FEED STORE CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO 40 CARS WHEN STACKED. AND THEN THE VALLEY PARKING ZONE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE MORE CARS UP TO 60 CARS. UM AND THAT WOULD REALLY HELP TO MAXIMIZE THE PARKING SPACES AND BETTER MANAGE THE PARKING IN OUR DOWNTOWN. WE DO HAVE THE VALLEY OPERATOR ON ZOOM TODAY. HIS NAME IS SCOTT JACKSON. AND HE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE AND JUST PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON THE INCREASE IN COST WITH INSURANCE.

OKAY SO IS THE BALLET PARKING OPERATOR FOR DUTY? HE IS ONLINE. OKAY? RESOLUTION 77 TO 0 TO FUSE. OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. AUTHORIZED

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OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM AS PROBABLY JUST DISCUSSED, UM, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY FILLED OUT THE RFP FOR THIS OUR COSTS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT. UM MUCH LIKE MOST OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA. NOW OUR INSURANCE HAS TRIPLED. UM WHEN WE WENT TO RENEW LAST MONTH UM, DUE TO THAT. UM THE ONLY WAY WE FEEL THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS WORK. IS TO UTILIZE THE CITY HALL AND MAYBE SOME OF THE ANNEX LOT NEXT DOOR. UM THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR NUMBERS, AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE DOING PREVIOUSLY, UM, BEFORE COVID HAD UM, AND THAT PARTICULAR LAW WE WERE AVERAGING PARKING RIGHT AROUND 42 CARS A NIGHT. UM. RIGHT NOW.

MY BREAK EVEN COSTS WOULD BE 40 CARS TONIGHT. UM SO IT IS. IT IS OUR FEELING THAT PUTTING US FURTHER AWAY AND PUTTING US DOWN BEHIND THE FEED STORE, UM, WOULD NOT WORK. OKAY, THAT THAT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. UM I MEAN, I YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT, AND I CAN PROVIDE IT FOR YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T WANT TO. I WANTED TO VALUE TO FINISH HIS HARD TO TALK. WE CAN'T SEE YOU. SO UM SORRY. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO STAFFORD'S LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. UM BASED ON THE COMMENTS PROVIDED BY THE OPERATOR. OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS FROM THE OPERATOR SAYING THAT THE $150 A MONTH IS OUTSIDE OF HIS BREAK EVEN HMM.

NO SO HE'S AGREEING WITH WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL, RIGHT? THE $150 . I'M NOT OKAY. NEVER MIND. THAT CHANGED MY PROPOSAL. I STATED THAT I COULD PAY ZERO UM, THAT I BROKE EVEN LAST YEAR. UM AND I, YOU KNOW, BY MOVING IT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO WE WOULD PARK EVEN LESS, WHICH YOU KNOW, I STILL FEEL AND NOW MY COST OF TRIPLE OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CLARK? WELL YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE CRUX OF IT NOW WAS ONLY RESPONDING TO THE ART. HE WAS ONLY RESPONDER. ANYONE ELSE? EVERYTHING ELSE, SO HE'S SAYING THAT HE CAN'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY UNLESS HE BRINGS IT JUST TO THE ZONE TWO AND THEN EXTENDED INTO THAT ANNEX NEXT DOOR. CORRECT.

THE TWO LOTS MAKES IT. BECAUSE OF THE INSURANCE BEHIND THE FEED STORES. THE WHOLE POINT YOU'RE TALKING IT BACK IN THERE AND THEN STILL HAVING AVAILABLE ACTUALLY SOME OF THAT PARKING WHERE IT'S IN THE MOST DEMAND. SO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE TO RFP? WHAT DID YOU SAY? INITIALLY THEY HAD AGREED TO DO BOTH. UH BUT THEN, WITH THE COST OF INSURANCE, THEY CAN'T DOUBLE TRIPLE THE COST SO THEY CAN'T DO BOTH. THEY HAVE TO PICK ONE AND TO MAKE THEIR NUMBERS WORK AND ACCOMMODATE MOST NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ZONED TO AND THEN AND ANNEX WAS THAT IN THE. NO IT WAS NOT FOR BOTH. SO IT'S A MODIFICATION OF THE RESPONSE.

YEAH YEAH. SO BASICALLY, I HAD TO RENEW MY INSURANCE THREE WEEKS AGO. AND SO THAT'S ON THESE COSTS JUMPED. SO A NORMAL LOT USED TO COST ME ABOUT $2000 TO ENSURE NOW COSTS ME SEVEN. SO IF I WAS DOING TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, BOTH LOCKS, THE LOOKING AT $14,000. AND THAT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT. OKAY I THINK WE I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER BRUDER. I JUST WANTED TO SAY OR ASK. WE NEED THEM, DON'T WE? YES IT HELPS DOUBLE OUR PARKING TOWN AND DOWNTOWN INSURANCE HAS TRIPLED ITS TRIPLED ON. YEAH, IT'S RIDICULOUS WITH PEOPLE ARE PAYING. SO, UM, I'M OKAY WITH THE 0 50. WELL, WHAT ABOUT USING A LOT, TOO, AS THE PRIMARY LIFE MUSIC SO AND UM SO BOTH OF THEM , OKAY? WELL HE DOESN'T WANT TO USE HIS OWN OZONE ONE PARKING BECAUSE OKAY, SO HE ONLY WANTS THAT AND HE WANTS THE ABILITY THE TIMES TO GO INTO THE ANNEX PARKING LOT. IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? YEAH THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

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YEAH, THAT'S THE ISSUE. WELL, I THINK THAT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE. DON'T DOING IT AS ZONE ONE.

AND THEN UH UM. A AND MAYBE WITH AND IF THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT OR SOMETHING THAT HE COULD JUST LIKE HE COULD USE DON'T WANT AND HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO USE ZONE TO MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE ANNEX PARKING SPOT PLACE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE ANNEX SHOULD BE JUST CONTINUOUSLY USED FOR THE BALLET UNLESS IT INVEST THURSDAY. BIG SHOW OR SOMETHING GOING ON THAT WOULD DICTATED ONE'S TWO ELIMINATION. YEAH DON'T DO. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. I'M SORRY.

DON'T YOU ELIMINATE ZONE ONE I'M SORRY. THAT WAS MY FAULT. I WITH THE ANNEX IF THERE'S AN OVERFLOW NEED AND THEN AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED, AND OPEN ENDED ZERO TO WHATEVER RIGHT, SAYING, THOUGH, IS HE WANTS THAT BLOCKED OFF. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE TO SECURE IT FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO USE THEM. WHAT WELL, HISTORICALLY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT IN PARTICULAR.

WHAT WE DID HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AS WE HAD AGREED, MAYBE INFORMALLY WITH THE PARKING SOLUTIONS BEGINNING OF MY FOUR O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AFTERNOONS, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KIND OF HANG OUT ON THE FRONT PORCH OF CITY HALL AND AS PEOPLE LEFT THE BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN

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SO. IT'S WORTH SAYING, IF SOMETHING COULD COME BACK. AND IF IT'S STILL JUST NOT FEASIBLE, THEN TOUGHIES. YEAH I AGREE. I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GO OUT FOR RP AND GIVE GIVE THIS GENTLEMAN AND. ANYONE ELSE A FAIR SHAKE AND ALSO LET THEM COME BACK AND SEE HOW THEY WHAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT THEY CAN DO IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS POPULAR IN HONESTLY. YOU GUYS COULD YOU GUYS COULD DIRECT THE. THE C R A REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO ANYBODY THAT RESPONDED TO THE INITIAL RFP. EPISODE THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE. BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER INQUIRIES THAT RESPONSES, BUT I MEAN, LIKE ANYBODY ELSE REQUESTED, PACKAGE ANYONE ELSE DO ANYTHING AND THEN REALLY SHORTEN. RESPONSE TIME, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS BE A 30 DAY RESPONSE TIME, DO IT AS A 10 OR 14 DAYS. RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE CAN LITERALLY GET A CONTRACT BACK BEFORE ER, A IN THE NOVEMBER CR A MEETING AND BE DONE CHARGING. THAT'S $5. TO THE TOP TO GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM TO POTENTIALLY CHARGING MORE. I DON'T GET IT UP POLICY IS CONCERNED THEY CAN CHARGE WITH THE WHATEVER THEY FEEL. IS THE OKAY WHATEVER THE MARKET RATE IS THAT THEY WANT TO CHARGE. UM SO DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DIRECT STEP TO GO BACK OUT TO RP PERKY? HE SAID, AN AVERAGE ACCORDED ALRIGHT FOR THE EVENING. WELL BE 41 PART. SO IN PREVIOUS YEARS BEFORE COVID THEY USED TO PARK 70 TO 80 CARS, BOTH LOTS BOTH LIKE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL AND THE ANNEX THE NOT THE ONE BEHIND THE STEWARD, PETG THIS OTHER PARKING SPACE. SO THERE'S A THERE'S TWO CONCEPTS OF PLAY HERE. THE BOARD WAS ADDRESSING IT. DOWNTOWN PARKING NEEDS SHOULD WE CHARGE FOR PARKING IN DOWNTOWN STUART AND THINGS LIKE THAT? THE VALET SYSTEM WAS SET UP TO SEE IF, IN FACT, CONSUMERS HAVE THE TOLERANCE FOR THE APTITUDE TO PAY FOR PARKING. CLEARLY THE ANSWER. THAT QUESTION WAS, YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE CREATED THAT DEMAND WAS THE FACT THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM REMOVED ALL OF THE PARKING SPACES AROUND CITY HALL FROM BEING AVAILABLE PARKING QUESTION, I GUESS FOR THIS BOARD IS DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN? THAT WAS THAT WAS THE COMPLAINT I HEARD FROM THE RESTAURANTS IS THAT THEY WERE HEARING COMPLAINTS FROM THEIR PATRIOTS THAT THE ANNEX PARKING LOT WAS EMPTY. AND THE ONLY AND THAT WILL END SO THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAD TO PARK AVAILABLE TO WAS THE BALLET. AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAD A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT GIVING THEM TOO MUCH EXCEPT FOR A NIGHT OF A SPECIAL EVENT. AND I MENTIONED IT BECAUSE IT WAS ALSO INTENDED TO MEASURE THE TOLERANCE FOR THE CONCEPT OF HATE, RIGHT? IMAGINE THE SAME. PEOPLE WENT DOWNTOWN STUART WOULD BE THE ONES COMPLAINING. CHARGED THROUGH PARKING. YEAH, I'M SURE. SO UM, TWO VERY WELL STAYED. SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION TO GO BACK UP FOR R P CORRECT. YES, BUT MANY I THINK

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RFP AND I DON'T THINK WE WERE DOING THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THAT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO DO AN RFP PROPOSAL TO AND BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING, AND YOU CAN ACCEPT IT. YEAH WHY DON'T WE DO THAT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD? OKAY? OKAY DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO CANCEL? OKAY CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE RP MOTION? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLEGE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK CANCEL THE RFP ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION. CARING DONE, SHE SAID.

WHAT YOU CALL THE ROLL. MEMBER BRUNER YES, BOARD MEMBER CLARK? YES CHAIRPERSON MCDONALD.

REMEMBER COLLINS, ONE MEMBER RICH. OKAY SO THAT'S DONE. SO THEN DO WE NEED A MOTION TO HAVE HIM BRING BACK OR DID HE JUST DO IT? IT'S ACTUALLY JUST HE JUST BRINGS IT BACK. YES SO, SIR, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO? YOU JUST HAVE OKAY? IS HE BACK ON? CAN YOU HEAR ME? DO YOU UNDERSTAND? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY GREAT. YEAH SO IF YOU JUST SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO PANEL AND THEN WE'LL GET IT REVIEWED AND THAT BY THE SIERRA AS SOON AS WE CAN OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. YES SIR.

THANK YOU. OKAY SO LET'S MOVE ON. UH, PARDON? SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE THREE. I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO TO GO BACKWARDS AND JUST KIND OF DO IT BACKWARDS THAT WE STARTED AT THE

[COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)]

BEFORE YOU IN THE SUMMER. COME BEFORE US IN DECEMBER. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, MR COMPANY WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT RESPONDED. TO THIS MEETING AND SAID HE'S OUT OF TOWN AND WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND. THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CRB DID NOT RESPOND TO THE NOTIFICATION OF THE MEETING.

PART OF IT. THE AGENDA COULD BE THAT THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT REQUIRED THEM TO MISS WORK AND COME ATTEND BECAUSE THE VOTING ON THE LICENSE AGREEMENT IS A CR ANYTHING SO THAT WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN IF YOU. OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEN ONE OF THEM WAS SEIZED. AND

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[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[1. UPDATE ON DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS]

AND MAKING CHANGES AS NEEDED. WE REPURPOSED THE PARKING SPACE NEAR DUFFY'S FOR RIDE, HAILING SERVICE LOCATIONS NEAR RESTAURANTS AND OUR TRAM HUB FOR PICK UP AND DROP OFF IN DOWNTOWN CORE WE DOESN'T NEEDED, UM, UH, AREA FOR UBER AND LYFT. UH FOR THAT WAY THEY HAVE A LOCATION AND PROVIDE A SAFE LOCATION FOR PASSENGERS TO GET IN AND OUT. STAFF ALSO COORDINATED WITH UBER AND LYFT TO CREATE A GEO FENCE AREA SO THAT DOWNTOWN VISITORS CAN BE PICKED UP AT THIS LOCATION AND, UM AND I HAVE FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM TO GET SOME DATA ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY BEING DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP THIS LOCATION. THE STUDY ALSO RECOMMENDED ANOTHER LOCATION ON ST LUCIE AVENUE. BUT FIRST WE WANTED TO TEST THE LOCATION ON THE EAST END AND THEN, UM, COME BACK IN THE FUTURE TO MAYBE ALLOCATED SPACE FOR RIGHT HEALING SERVICES ON ON ST LUCIE AVENUE. AS FAR AS CURB SIDE MANAGEMENT FOR DELIVERY TRUCKS OF WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS AS PART OF THE NEW DUMPSTER IN CLOSURE REVITALIZATION PROJECT. THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT WE MIGHT BE REMOVING ONE OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WHEN WE DO THE REVITALIZATION PROJECT SO THAT MIGHT CREATE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR LOADING ZONE SO UNTIL THAT PROJECT IS IMPLEMENTED, STAFF WILL BE LOOKING TO COORDINATE WITH MAIN STREET. TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO DO EARLY DELIVERIES AND USING SEMINAL STREET FOR, UM, FOR LOADING ZONE. IS IT TOO LATE TO GET THAT

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SO WE'RE GONNA TRY IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE HAD THREE HOUR PARKING UNTIL SIX PM ABOUT THE STUDY FOUND THAT THE DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEES WOULD COME IN AT THREE O'CLOCK THREE PM AND OCCUPY SOME OF THEIR PRIME SPACES AND LIMITING PARKING SPACES OF OUR DOWNTOWN VISITORS. SO WE EXTENDED THE THREE HOUR PARKING TO EIGHT P.M. TO ALLOW HIGHER TURNOVER AND MAKING MORE PARKING AVAILABLE ON THE STREET AND PUSHING THE DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEES TO PARK OUTSIDE THE CORE AREA.

SINCE THE STUDY WAS IMPLEMENTED. WE'VE PURCHASED THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING, SO WE STARTED THE PARK AND RIDE PROGRAM AT THIS LOCATION AFTER FIVE PM ON WEEKDAYS AND ALL DAY ON WEEKENDS , SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON PROMOTING THIS PARKING OPTION, ESPECIALLY DURING OUR UPCOMING PEAK SEASON. SOME ARE. SOME OF OUR MIDTERM RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO IMPROVE THE ON STREET PARKING ON DIXIE HIGHWAY FROM JOAN JEFFERSON TO COLORADO TO CONVERT THOSE INTO THREE HOUR PARKING.

SO WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT AS PART OF PART OF OUR DIXIE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PHASE. AH THE STUDY RECOMMENDED THAT WE EXPANDED THREE OUR VISITOR PARKING BOUNDARIES. UM SO WE DID EXPAND IT BACK IN NOVEMBER. 2021 WE AMENDED THE THREE HOUR DOWNTOWN PARKING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES TO INCLUDE THE PARKING SPACES AT THE NORTH OF THE FLAGLER STREET. WE WILL ADDRESS FURTHER MODIFICATION TO THE THREE HOUR PARKING UNDERSTANDING HALL RELOCATES. GOLF CART PARKING WELL AS WAS RECOMMENDED, AND WE'LL BE IMPLEMENTING THAT AS PART OF THE SEMINAL STREETSCAPE PROJECT. SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE OPERATED DISCUSSION TODAY ARE PAID PARKING ON SOUTHWEST OSCEOLA STREET, FINDING SOLUTIONS AND SOME OPTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEES. UM SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME, UM, SOME PLACES TO PART. SO FOR THE ON STREET FOR THE ON STREET PARKING, UM, ON OSCEOLA STREET TO INSTALL THE PAID PARKING SYSTEM STUDY RECOMMENDED THAT IF WE CHARGE A DOLLAR PER HOUR MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, THERE ABOUT SUCCEEDED PARKING SPACES THERE IT COULD GENERATE ABOUT $200,000 IN REVENUE THAT WE COULD USE TOWARDS DOWN THERE WE COULD USE TOWARDS PARKING GARAGE. ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS DOING INSTALLED DYNAMIC PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM THAT INFORMS THE DRIVER. THE REAL PARKING REAL TIME PARKING AVAILABILITY IN DOWNTOWN TO REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, BUT THIS IS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 300 TO $500,000. AT THE END OF THE STUDY, THE CONSULTANT DID PREPARE GARAGE CONCEPTUAL FOR TWO POTENTIAL SITES. THE SAILFISH SURFACE LOT IN THE MARTIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE SURFACE PARKING LOT. THE SALE FIST LOT COULD GENERATE A NET PARKING SPACES OF 134. A TOTAL OF 212 PARKING SPACES, AND THE CURRENT PRICE WOULD BE ABOUT $30,000 PER SPACE. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $6.4 MILLION FOR PARKING GARAGE AT SAILFISH LOT. MARK MARTIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE PARKING LOT. THIS WOULD REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP WITH MARTIN COUNTY. IT WOULD GENERATE A TOTAL OF 595 195 PARKING SPACES, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT COSTS ABOUT $18 MILLION AGAIN. THAT'S $30,000 PER PARKING SPACE. WE ALSO HAD OUR, UH WE ALSO HAD SOME DATA COLLECTION OF FOR THE SAILFISH PARKING LOT IN COLINAS LIGHT. AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD THAT THE EXTENSION OF THE THREE HOUR PARKING RESTRICTION TO EIGHT O'CLOCK AND ADDING MORE PARKING SPACES TO THE RESTRICTED THREE HOUR PARKING AT THE NORTH END OF FLAGLER AVENUE WAS CAUSING THE SAILFISH LOT TO GET FULL. SO WE HAD OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT

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SO. YOU KNOW, JUST EXTENDING THE PARKING HOURS AND ALSO THE AREA DID NOT AFFECT THE AVAILABILITY.

JUST TODAY. STAFF IS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON NEXT STEPS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDED ACTION ITEMS. UH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT HIS BABY CREATING OR A COMMITTEE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS PAID PARKING ON SOUTHWEST OSTEO STREET, FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR PARKING COUNT DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEE PARKING SOLUTIONS AND POTENTIAL PARKING STRUCTURE SITES. COMMISSIONER CAR. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE MANAGER AND I DON'T SEE MISS CALLAHAN HERE. WHAT DOES IT D BE A IS THE TVS STILL ACTIVE? DO THEY DO ANYTHING, GIVE US SUGGESTIONS. SHE'S THE MAIN STREET. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IS THE DBS SELECTIVE, OKAY, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM AND FROM THE STREET IF WE DIDN'T GO WITH THIS IDEA SELECTED. AH! UH YOU KNOW, LIKE A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO HELP PEOPLE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM THE DB A USED TO BE VERY OVERACTIVE. AND THEN YOU KNOW, SINCE MAIN STREET HAS BEEN DOING QUITE A BIT, I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD IT AGAIN. IT'S ALSO DURING THE TIME PERIOD THAT THEY'VE PAID ESPECIAL ASSESSMENT. THE THING THAT ANNUAL DID OR WHERE DOES THE DOWNTOWN ASSESSMENT THEY. THOSE ONES WHEN TERMINATED. THEY'RE INTERESTED. AND WE STILL NEED TO START MONTHLY MEETINGS EITHER IN HERE OR AT THE GUY FIRST.

USUALLY ABOUT 3 TO 5 IN THE MORNING IS THAT FOR OVER A COCKTAIL IN THE MORNING AND YOU KNOW THEY THEY'RE PRIMARY FUNCTION BECAUSE THEY PARTNER WITH MAIN STREET, AND THEY HAVE A PARTNER EVENT COMMITTEE THAT WORKS TOGETHER ON THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT OCCUR IN DOWNTOWN.

BUT IF YOU GUYS DO GO WITH THIS COMMITTEE FORMATION IF WE WOULD TAKE YEAH. PEOPLE FROM MAIN STREET PEOPLE STAFF. DRESS WHATEVER THOSE THINGS YOU GUYS WANT MR BRETT GRILL MORE INVOLVED WITH THE D P. I THINK HE DIDN'T FALL MADE FREE. STREET, OKAY? AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU THE REASON THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA IS BECAUSE OF THE TOWARDS THE END OF LAST SEASON. YOU GUYS ARE GETTING HUMOR. I WAS AFRAID AND WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW. LIKE TO HAVE THEIR INPUT AND SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN TO GET THIS MONEY, RIGHT? I INVITED. I INVITED CANDACE REMINDED MAIN STREET MULTIPLE TIMES OF THIS MEETING, SO THEY ARE AWARE SO I WANT TO MAKE THE COMMITTEE MOTION THAT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE JUST A VERY SHORT. CAN YOU HOLD THAT? OKAY. JUST ONE SECOND. JUST ONE MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THERE THAT IN A PARKING GARAGE. I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR A PARKING GARAGE FOR MANY YEARS AND A AS PART OF A PARKING GARAGE. A UH, WALK BRIDGE ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, AND IF YOU DID IT FROM SAILFISH ALIVE, YOU COULD BUILD A HAVE THE WALK VILLAGE COME OUT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LYRIC THEATER. UM, WHICH WOULD SOLVE TWO PROBLEMS. ONE IS THE SAFE HELP REQUIRED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FOR THE ESPECIALLY WITH THE UPCOMING BRIGHT LINE. UM BUT ALSO THERE IS. I BELIEVE THE SETTLEMENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY IS THAT BRIGHT LINE HERE IS THE PAPER HAPPENED. WALK BRIDGE ACROSS THE TRACKS. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECTLY, BUT UM, BUT I THINK UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, WITH INTEREST RATES AND SUCH, YOU KNOW, THE COST MAY BE $6 MILLION TO BUILD A GARAGE.

BUT THE DEBT SERVICE IS GOING TO BE QUITE LARGE AT THIS POINT, BUT FIRST THE PAID PARKING.

WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS. THERE WAS PAID PARKING IN DOWNTOWN AT ONE TIME. I THINK ROZ HAS ONE OF THE PARKING METERS IN HER OFFICE. AS A AS A DECORATION. BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BRING IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OF HEARD PROS AND CONS FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS. SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS FEEL THAT IT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT TURNS OVER, THE MORE IT TURNS OVER THE PARKING SPACES, SO PEOPLE ARE IT HELPS THEIR BUSINESS AND I, THERE'S BUSINESS OWNERS, I BELIEVE FEELS DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO COMMIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNTIL WE, UH HEAD AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CLARK'S IDEA OF A

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GOOD IDEA. BAD IDEA WHAT SECTION FOUR TIMES THAT KIND OF STUFF. PRICING. UNLIKELY BUSINESS OWNERS ON THAT GROUP. WE'RE GOING TO SAY NO. A SIGHTING OF A STRUCTURE WHERE EXAGGERATION LOCATED IN THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION WILL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS WANT TO GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT AND SIGN A SINGULAR COMMISSIONER TO THIS COMMITTEE.

FOR WHAT IS POTENTIALLY A VERY BIG DEAL AND VERY EXPENSIVE. I THINK IT'S OKAY THAT WE SHOULD HASH OUT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE IN THE WEEDS. WELL GENERAL GENERALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE COMMISSION COMBINATIONS WOULD NOT BE BINDING. ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA GO OUT AND COME BACK WITH THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM, YOU KNOW, BY BRINGING THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS. WHAT THEY THINK AND THEN WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THAT'S WHERE WE THEN HASH IT OUT. SO YEAH, IT'S A IT'S VERY MUCH A FACT. FINDING IT IS NOT A BINDING, UM THAT WE'VE DONE COMMITTEES IN THE PAST. STAKEHOLDERS HAVE GIVEN THERE. OPINIONS AND EXPRESSIONS TO THE A COUPLE OF WEEKS HIRED TO DO THE REPORT THAT SMELLS PRESENTED THE NEXT STEP BEYOND JUST FACT FINDING AND LITERALLY BE THIS COMMITTEE. WE COME BACK AND ALMOST PRIORITIZING BULLET POINTS AND SAVE THE COMMISSION LOVED YEAH, HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN ALMOST LIKE WHEN WE DID THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. THEY MADE SEVERAL ADAPT OR DENY EACH TAKING BACK WITH. THAT WAS ULTIMATELY A POLICY THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CONSENSUS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE OUT. DYNAMIC PARKING SYSTEM. IT WAS DISCUSSED. MAYBE GETTING THAT OUT OF ADOPTION.

ACTUALLY THE WAY FINDING SOLUTION OR SO I ACTUALLY DID A LOT OF REVIEW INTO THOSE SYSTEMS A FEW YEARS AGO AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT SYSTEM WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT. ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S NASCAR. TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. WELL THEY ALSO HAVE THERE'S DIFFERENT SYSTEMS OUT THERE. I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY THEY WORK REALLY WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY SYSTEMS HAVE USED ONE OF THE SYSTEMS DOWN SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOG ONTO YOUR PHONE AND TELL YOU WHERE THE SPACES ARE. TRANSPORT AND IT'S ACTUALLY GREAT BECAUSE YOU YEAH THERE AND IT AND IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, I WOULD READ TO A PARKING SPACE AND I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH IT DOING THAT SHOW PEOPLE. THEY MAY NOT. RIGHT DON'T KNOW. KNOW THAT USED. AT THE AIRPORT IN MIAMI FOR A LONG TIME TO PLAN ESSENTIAL. YEAH. VERY IMPORTANT IN THE NEW TECH AND IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE PREMIUM PAY SYSTEM TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE PARKING SPACE. YOU GET OUT. YOU COULD PAY. AND YOU'RE DONE. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE APP, YOU ARE TO THE WALKED THERE WITH KIOSK LIKE EVERY FIVE SPACES WAS THE TICKET PRICE ON THAT ONE. ROUGHLY $1,000,000. YOU CERTAINLY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT SYSTEM UNLESS WE ARE PUSHING. THE GARAGE IS THAT WAY OUT, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY SO THE PROCESS CAN I MAKE THE AGREE WITH. PEOPLE ARE WE'LL NEED A BIG HAMMER. LET'S GIVE THEM A VOICE. OKAY, MOTION. ALRIGHT MY MOTION THAT RIDGE SAID THAT I SHOULD BREAK OKAY, SO THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE RIGHT TO DISCUSS THE FOUR ITEMS RIGHT HERE. COMING UP. WORKING SYSTEM TO GET THE BUY IN FROM THE LOCAL FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS. RIGHT WE'RE FINDING

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THEY'RE CONSUMING A LOT OF THEM SO I WOULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THE LYRIC. UM, I THINK IT WOULD WITH THAT ONE. A TWO FROM MAIN STREET. JUST ONE FOR ONLY NEED ONE FROM EACH FROM A TREE WENT FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. UM YOU MIGHT WANT. YEAH I THINK I'D GET THE STUART MARKED DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE A TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNTY. AT LEAST THAT PERSON FROM THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE SHARED OFFICE HERE. I THINK ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE AND THEY CAN ALWAYS PULL INPUT FROM THEIR PEOPLE. YEAH THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT AND THEN STEP RIGHT. THE TRANSFER. EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THINK. YEAH, I AGREE TO BE OUT OF HELEN. WOW WE WANT TO HAVE TO. WE HAVE ASSUMED NONE BUSINESS PEOPLE TO NONE DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU CUSTOMERS.

OH, YEAH. POTENTIAL CUSTOMER. PRETTY CLOSE TO YOUR SEVEN. YEAH OKAY. SO YOU WOULD YOU HAVE A MOTION TO FORM A COMMITTEE WITH THE PARAMETERS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED? WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND.

OKAY SO WE HAD A RACE TO SECOND , BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER COLLEGE THE WINNER ON THAT SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY CABINETS FROM THE PUBLIC? HELLO ALREADY, BABE. OKAY SEEING NINE. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MEMBER RICH. YES REMEMBER COLLINS? REMEMBER CLARK? REMEMBER BURNER? YES, PERSON, MCDONALD. OKAY I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FOR THIS MEETING. SO THE HEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.