[4. AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS AT SAILFISH PARKING LOT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 104-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY FOR THE INSTALLATION, OPERATION, AND MAINTENANCE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING EQUIPMENT AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE SAILFISH PARKING LOT LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN STUART; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

YES. OKAY MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR COMMISSION ACTION AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FOR EVIE. CHARGING STATIONS ARE SELFISH PARKING LOT . MIKE, WOULD YOU READ THE RESOLUTION TITLE? THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 104-20 TO 2 RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY FOR THE INSTALLATION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING EQUIPMENT AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE SAILFISH PARKING LOT LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN STUART. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY THANK YOU. JIM.

ARE YOU HANDLING THIS ONE SKI COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. AND I ALSO HAVE STAFF WITH ME. BEN HOGARTH, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RIVETER INITIATIVE, AS WELL AS SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT THE CITY OF REPRESENTS UM, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT HERE.

AND I'D LIKE TO BRING UP TO THE PODIUM. MARSHALL CRITCHFIELD, WHO WAS THE EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MANAGER, AS WELL AS PETER MEN, UM MARTINEZ, WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE EVOLUTION OF ELECTRIC CHARGING PROGRAM. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THE COMMISSION HAS REVIEWED A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE AND I HAVE FTL REPRESENTATIVES HERE TO BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROGRAM IS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS PETER MARTINEZ ARE WALKING THE APPEAL DEVELOPMENT. MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS PETER MARTINEZ. I WORK ON THE FIELD DEVELOPMENT TEAM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THE F D L E. V CHARGING PROGRAM, SO JUST A QUICK RECAP OF THE PROGRAM. SO AS YOU KNOW WHERE THE BEGINNING OF A BIG SHIFT TOWARDS ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN INSTALLING EVIE CHARGING STATIONS IN PUBLIC SINCE 2019. WE HAVE OVER 800 CHARGING STATIONS OUT THERE WITH REGARDS TO FAST CHARGING STATIONS. WE HAVE EXACTLY 100, ANOTHER 100 CHANGE IN DEVELOPMENT. UH WE HAVE RETURNED CASE SOLUTION NO COST TO YOU.

DRIVERS PAY 30 CENTS A KILOWATT HOUR TO USE THE CHARGING STATIONS, UM BY PARTNER WITH FTL, YOUR PARTNER WITH A STRONG COMPANY. WE TREAT OUR EVIE CHARGING STATIONS AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR GRID. UM AROUND 8 TO 10 MONTHS TOTAL TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT. UM. WHEN WE'RE DONE, YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW AMENITY. THAT'S GREAT FOR THE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. OKAY THANK YOU ANY ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR MOTIONS? QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER COLLINS SO. WITH THIS PROGRAM, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL VERSION AS WELL. YEAH, THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. WITH THE RESIDENTIAL VERSION. I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT THE PRESIDENT GETS TO KEEP THE CHARGER AFTER 10 YEARS. IT'S MICHAEL WORKERS PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS. UM, BUT NOT ON THE NOT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AGAIN AFTER THE 10 YEAR TERM, WE CAN GIVE IT TO YOU. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS ARRANGEMENT, OKAY? UM SO THE.

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FUNDING FOR THESE STATIONS. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF PER STATION ? WHAT IT COSTS TO PUT ONE OF THESE IN TO INSTALL THEM FOR THE FOUR CHARGES THAT WILL BE OVER $500,000 IS THAT FUNDING COMPLETELY COVERED BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS? GO TO F B L NO. SO THIS WILL BE PAID BY RATEPAYERS. EXACTLY. THIS WAS MY QUESTION. SO THAT THE. THE WAY THAT THIS WORKS IS WE ARE INCREASING. THE UTILITY FEES THE ELECTRICAL BILL OF ALL F PL. AS A MONOPOLY. YOU'RE ABLE TO INCREASE THE RATE THAT EVERYBODY PAYS. TO OFFSET THE COST OF PUTTING THESE ON THOSE PARKING LOT SPACES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AT THAT RATE. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING FRACTIONS OF A PENNY. FRACTIONS OF A PENNY WELL WITH THESE FOR, BUT THE IDEA IS MUNICIPALITIES EVERYWHERE, ADOPTING MORE AND MORE OF THIS, SO WITH EACH ONE OF THESE THAT'S INSTALLED THE BASE RATE FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERSON WHO HAS AN FBL BILL IS GOING TO GO UP. EVERYTHING WE DO IS CAPITALIZED ON HIS PAID FOR BY OUR CUSTOMER. ADOPTION MEANS HIGHER BILLS FOR THE AVERAGE WORKING PERSON FOR FBI. NOT NECESSARILY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE MORE AND MORE CHARGING STATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GENERATE MORE POWER. HOW THAT HOW ABOUT YOU KNOW BILL AFFECTS A PERSON ACTUALLY. IT'S A THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION. THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION. OKAY, UM WITH WITH THIS DEAL AS I'M LOOKING AT IT. IT SEEMS LIKE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND F PL CAN WALK AWAY WITH 30 DAYS NOTICE CORRECT. YEAH, THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE THAT IN THERE. BUT THE CITY IS ON THE HOOK FOR THOSE FOUR SPOTS FOR 10 YEARS, THEY CAN'T MOVE THEM. CORRECT YEAH, IF YOU WANTED TO, WE WOULD WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE COULD. UM. IF YOU WANTED TO RELOCATE THEM, WE WOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT COST IS FAIR, BASED ON UM, BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PARKING LOT? FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, RIGHT? SOME REDEVELOPMENT. WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR 10 YEARS AND IF WE NEED TO MOVE THESE TO SOME OTHER PLACE, THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO FORK OUT THE MONEY TO MOVE THAT. AND WHAT DOES IT COST TO INSTALL THAT? RIGHT SO TOTO FOR THE FOR THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, RIGHT? THE LABORERS, PROBABLY HALF THAT. YEAH SO IF THAT'S IF THAT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PUT IN A PRO RATED KIND OF LIKE A PENALTY. SO LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE IT YEAR ONE, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE MOST OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT. YOU WANT TO MOVE AT YEAR, 10 THEN I WAS JUST GONNA BE MUCH LONGER. I'M NOT TRYING TO GRILL YET. BUT THE MORE I GOT INTO THE WEEDS OF THIS, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A TERRIBLE DEAL FOR THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRO RATED PENALTY. WHAT IS OUR BENEFIT? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO TAXPAYERS THAT DON'T DRIVE IN TV? TO LOSE FOUR SPOTS AND SOME OF OUR BUSIEST AREA. RIGHT THAT FPL'S CAN SELL ELECTRIC. I MEAN, EVEN OUR A T. M DOWNTOWN. WE FIGURED OUT FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT ATM SITS ON FOR SEACOAST WHAT TO RENT IT TO SEA COAST FOUR YET WE GET NO RENT. NO. BENEFIT BEYOND THE. PERCEIVED BENEFITS FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHARGE HERE AND PAY YOU FOR THAT RIGHT. THERE IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT TO HAVING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS IN A CITY. UM WE'VE GOT DATA TO SHOW AND I THINK IT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE BEFORE. WE'VE GOT DATA TO SHOW THAT UM CUSTOMERS WHO ARE CHARGING THEIR ELECTRIC VEHICLES TEND TO GO SHOPPING DURING THAT TIME, WHICH IS THE EXPECTATION HERE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM. DRAW POINTS . SO IF SOMEONE HAS AN F P L E V APP. WE CAN PROMOTE STEWART CAN PROMOTE THE CITY OF STEWART. THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN FLORIDA. LET'S GO CHECK OUT DOWNTOWN STUART. LET'S STICK AROUND. LET'S GO SHOPPING. LET'S GET A CUP OF COFFEE. LET'S GET LUNCH. THAT KIND OF THING. SO THERE IS A DRAW FOR THE CITY OF STEWART TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS IN THE CITY OF STEWART. IS THERE SOME SORT OF PENALTY TO SOMEONE WHO PARKS IN THAT SPACE, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE POLICE. BUT IS THERE SOME SORT OF PENALTY FOR SOMEONE WHO PARKS IN THAT SPACE, AND IT'S NOT HOOKED UP TO A CHARGER? THE B A TICKET THROUGH YOUR YEAH, WE WOULDN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING RIGHT? DO WE HAVE ANY INTENTIONS ON ENFORCING THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR EXACTLY. BUT THE CITY HAS THE THREE HOUR PARKING. I THOUGHT AT THE LAST MEETING. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION FROM, UH FROM MR HOGARTH THAT THE METER WAS ACTUALLY GONNA LIKE THERE WAS A FEE THAT THE METER CHARGED IF THE CHARGE WAS FINISHED.

MAYBE AT MARYLAND, BUT HE'S ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION. SO LET'S SAY I PARK MY GAS GUZZLING

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LAND CRUISER FROM 1968, AND THAT SPOT BECAUSE I WANT TO GO TO DINNER DOWNTOWN, AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE ELSE TO PARK AND I'M BITTER RIGHT THAT THESE SPOTS ARE HERE, AND THEY'RE EMPTY. IF I PARK IN THAT SPOT WHAT HAPPENS TO ME? I'LL ANSWER THAT. IT'S A STATE LAW OFFICERS HAVE DISCRETION, SO IT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS. SO YOU GOTTA ASK ALL 47 OFFICERS THAT QUESTION. GOT IT. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY GETS NO PROFIT SHARE OUT OF THIS.

EVERYBODY'S UTILITY BILL GOES UP. UM IF I'M A LOCAL AND I WANT TO GO TO DINNER, AND I PARKED IN THAT SPACE, I'M GONNA GET A TICKET. AND THE CITY IS ON THE HOOK FOR 10 YEARS FOR THIS, THEY CAN'T MOVE IT WITHOUT PAYING OUT THE NOSE TO MOVE THIS. THESE FOUR SPACES IN THE I DON'T SEE WHAT THE BENEFIT IS FOR TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY TO BE HONEST. THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER RICH WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF REGULATED PUBLIC UTILITIES, COMMISSION COMPARTMENTS. UM, REMEMBER. THE PEOPLE WHO CHARGE WILL BE PAYING F P L AND THAT GOES INTO THEIR COFFERS AND THAT OFFSETS THEIR COST. SO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT. IT'S THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF A PENNY THAT THAT WOULD INCREASE RATEPAYERS. THIS UH, IS OFFSET TO THAT DEGREE AND I DO SEE IT AS A VALUE TO DOWNTOWN. BUT YOU BRING UP A VERY GOOD POINT COMMISSIONER COUNCIL. IT'S A VERY UNILATERAL DEAL AT THIS POINT. AND ACTUALLY IN SECTION NINE, IT SAYS. DURING THE TERM HOST MAY REQUEST IN WRITING THE COMPANY MOVED EQUIPMENT TO ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY. CAN WE JUST AMEND THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY? I MEAN, WE MAY WANT TO MOVE IT? ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. SO IT SEEMS YOU ANTICIPATE THAT NEED AND IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PRORATE IT LET'S DO THAT. SO LET'S PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THAT ALLOWS US BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE YEARS? WE WANT. WE MAY WANT TO MOVE IT TO CITY HALL OR SO CAN WE PUT THAT FLEXIBILITY AND THE LANGUAGE, MR MARTEL? MM. YOU GUYS CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT BEEN ABSOLUTELY AND UM, WE CAN INCLUDE IT FOLLOWING. I GUESS MARSHALL WOULD HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT MORE THAN WE CAN CHECK. YEAH, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT. OKAY EXPLORED ALREADY. SEVERAL LOCATIONS. I'VE THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE. SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT THAT IS IN THERE CURRENTLY WAS FOR ANTICIPATION OF THAT LOT, POSSIBLY BEING A PARKING GARAGE, SO WE HAD TO MOVE IT AND THEN REPLACE IT IN THE SAME SAME PROPERTY AREA. I MEAN, I DON'T PARKING SITUATION. I'LL SEE US DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PARKING GARAGE AT THAT LOCATION. CS REDEVELOPING THAT INTO A I MEAN, I DON'T YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. YEAH OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL BE INCENTIVIZED TO KEEP IT THERE BECAUSE THAT THE POWER INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY IN PLACE. COMMISSIONER RICH ALSO SAYS THE NEXT SENTENCE IS IF THE COMPANY APPROVES THE RELOCATION, THOUGH, SO WE TAKE THAT FRASER. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN . IF YOU BUILD A PARKING GARAGE AT THE SELFISH LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE CHARGES IN THERE. I ASSUME SO WE I MEAN, I'M SURE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT. YES SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE SO WE CAN. MR MARTEL KNOWS WHAT TO PUT INTO THE UH, MAKE CHANGES. FPL'S EXPENSIVE HE GETS MOVED. THERE'S NO BENEFIT FOR US. SO WHAT IS YOUR LANGUAGE COMMISSION? RICH THAT YOU WANT. I WE CAN WORK IT OUT IS NOT SAYS HE WANTS TO WORK AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO. RIGHT YOU KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT? YEAH I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE IT ELSEWHERE. THE RELOCATION OF THE EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, AND PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME COMING UP WITH THE LANGUAGE. OKAY AND DO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THEIR ABILITY TO SAY NO. TO MAKE A MOTION. NO.

IF YOU WANT TO. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MOTION THIS IS GOING TO BE APPROVED. IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE. OKAY, SO THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS. WHAT IS YOUR? WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? THE MOTION WILL BE TOO ALLOW US TO MOVE THE EQUIPMENT. ANYWHERE. WE FEEL AS MOST ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. AND THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE AMENDING THE AGREEMENT. THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER RICHEST MOTION BUT SO JUST TO HELP YOU OUT, COMMISSIONER, SO YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE. WITH THE ACCEPTANCE BY FP AND L. OF THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU'RE ALRIGHT. OKAY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT YOUR MOTION IS

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SO OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RICH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRUDER. MIKE DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS THAT OKAY? COMMISSIONER RICHES PUT INTO HIS MOTION. I DO. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROGRAM TO AND THAT WAS IN PARAGRAPH TWO, NOT PARAGRAPH NINE, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE INCLUDED THAT OR NOT, INCLUDING THAT. I DON'T SEE ANY. CORRECT PARAGRAPH TWO TERM, THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT SHALL TERMINATE AFTER THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY FOR THE CITY AND 30 DAYS BROUGHT UP. IT'S NOT RELATED. BELIEVE IT WELL, SHOULDN'T ALL OF THE COMMISSION THAT WORK TO OUR ADVANTAGE? TABLET PRO RIDER BEFORE WE'RE MOTION TO PRODUCE MENTIONED. EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. WE CAN KNOW YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION BEFORE EVERYBODY COMMENTS. SO AND THEN WE CAN COMMENT ON THE MOTION. SO UM. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR. ON THE MOTION. MIKE, AND YOU'RE CLEAR WHAT IS EMOTIONAL, BUT I THINK SO. OKAY YOU'RE NOT CLEAR . DID YOU PROVIDE THE MOTION I HEARD IS THAT A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT FOR THE UP TO FOUR PARKING SPACES IN THE SAILFISH PARKING LOT WITH AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION NINE, WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY OF STEWART TO RELOCATE. THE FOUR UM CHARGING STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY AT ITS OWN EXPENSE. IF IT'S DURING THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD. UM OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY DELIBERATION? YES, MR CLARK REGARD TO, UM RESOLUTION NUMBER ONE. OH, 4 2022. MR. MARTEL IF YOU WERE TO READ THE ENTIRE UM RESOLUTION. UH TITLE AS STATED NOW WITH ANYTHING THAT HE HAS ASKED. MR COMMISSIONER REACHES US BE ADDED TO THAT TITLE, OR IS IT JUST APPROVING THE EXACT TITLE? AND UM, THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE SAYING OR DO WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS TITLE TITLES? FINE BECAUSE IT'S JUST AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. IT'S THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE MODIFYING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OTHER DELIBERATION. WE HAD ALSO DISCUSSED THE CHARGERS BEING GIFTED TO THE CITY. OKAY 10 YEARS AS A PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, COMMISSIONER RICH CAN YOU AMEND YOUR EMOTION TO THAT AFTER 10 YEARS THAT THE THAT THE CHARGERS BECOME THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY OF STEWART? IF YOU'RE IN A GOOD ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY ALREADY IN THERE. OKAY SO I DON'T THINK IT IS. OKAY SO LET ME SEE IF IT'S NOT REMOVAL CHARGES GOING IN TODAY WILL BE PRETTY OUTDATED IN 10 YEARS JUST TO GUESS FOR SALE FOR GIFT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO SELL. BUT THE WAY THEY'RE COUNTING WORKS, IT'S AGAIN BECAUSE THEY DEPRECIATE THEM OVER 10 YEARS. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE READ. THE MARKET VALUE IS ZERO BECAUSE THEY'RE DEPRECIATED OVER 10 YEARS. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS. CAN WE? JUST DOWN TO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE AGREEMENT, WOULD YOU ADD THAT TO THE AGREEMENT COMMISSIONER RICH ARE YOU MAY GO AHEAD. WHAT'S THAT? DO I HAVE TO OR YOU HAVE TO HEAR THE MOTION MAKER? OKAY? OKAY? WHAT WHAT LANGUAGE ARE YOU SAYING, SAYING ? THAT DOES NOT SAY THAT MR MARTEL. WELL I'M I'M NOT SEEING ANY LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT IT SAYS AT THE END OF THE 10 YEARS, THEY CAN SELL THE EQUIPMENT TO US. HMM SO I'M SORRY, SIR. $1.17 LET'S PUT IN THERE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF THE TERM. UH THE CHARGES WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR SALE TO THE CITY FOR $1. YES SO YOU ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION PREVENTER SECOND, OKAY, WE HAVE AMENDED SECOND. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RICH WITH A WITH A RISK ONE AMENDMENT WITH SOME CONDITIONS IN AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY, UH UH, COMMISSIONER BRUDER, OR DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? CAN YOU? AH FRANK. IF YOU FILL OUT IT, COME ON UP AND THEN FILL OUT A GREEN CARD. AND AS ALWAYS BE, SPEAK YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GREG MCCHRYSTAL 8 12, SOUTH EAST FLAMINGO AVENUE, STUART, FLORIDA. I WAS I WAS PREPARING FOR THIS, BUT I DIDN'T SO I'LL JUST WING THE TOP OF MY

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HEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COMMISSION THAT LOOKS OVER THE HILL. REALLY RESEARCHES THINGS BETTER THAN IT IS. IT APPEARS THAT YOU DO THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION OUT THERE COMING OUT NOW, IF YOU LOOK FOR IT THAT KIND OF PUTS THE SQUASH ON THE WHOLE E V. CONCEPT AS FAR AS IT BEING BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. BETTER FOR ANYBODY. AND UH, IT'S OUT THERE, SO I WISH I WISH EVERYONE ON EVERYTHING, SUCH AS THE NOW TWO YEARS LATER, THE INFORMATION ON THE BACK SCENES IS SLOWLY COMING TO THE SURFACE. SO JUST ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD. UH, TASTES LIKE 500,000 TONS OF MINING OF MATERIALS. TO PRODUCE ONE CAR BATTERY. THIS MINING IS DONE IN COUNTRIES THAT USE CHILD SLAVE LABOR. AND POLLUTE THE HELL OUT OF THOSE COUNTRIES AND NOTE NONE OF THAT MINING WOULD EVER BE ALLOWED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES, SO THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. UH VOLKSWAGEN DID A STUDY. SO WHEN YOU BUY THAT NEW E V VEHICLE OKAY? AND YOU PARK IT. THE DAY YOU PARK IT. YOU'RE ALREADY 60,000 MILES IN THE HALL. IN OTHER WORDS, THE AMOUNT OF CARBON AMOUNT OF MISSIONS THAT TOOK TO MAKE THAT E V VEHICLE IN K. IS THE EQUIVALENT OF US NEANDERTHALS IN OUR GAS GUZZLERS. RIGHT GOING 60,000 MILES, OKAY? AND THE EMISSIONS MATH DOESN'T EVEN OUT FOR THE BOTH TYPES OF VEHICLES TO ABOUT 100,000 MILES. OKAY AND EVEN THEN YOU DON'T. THE E V VEHICLE IS NOT A MISSION FREE VEHICLE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS GETTING YOUR POWER FROM ELECTRICITY. ELECTRICITY IS NOT A CLEAN ENERGY. WE GET 88% OF OUR ENERGY FROM FOSSIL FUELS. ONLY 12% COMES FROM WIND AND SOLAR, SO IT'S JUST A BIG YOU KNOW, I WAS A GREEN BEFORE IT WAS COOL WAY BACK IN 73 74 WHEN IT STARTED, BUT YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF EVERY COIN. IT'S YOUR JOBS TO DO THE RESEARCH AND NOT JUST GO AFTER NEW, SHINY TOYS. BECAUSE THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE OUR DECISIONS THAT LAST DECADES EVEN MORE. SO DO YOUR RESEARCH. THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN WHAT THEY'RE WITHIN THE SHINY TOYS YOU'RE BEING TOLD ABOUT TV. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO FILL OUT A GREEN CARD. OKAY, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? HEARING NUNS WHO SAY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? PLEASE? COMMISSIONER COLLINS? NO COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES MCDONALD. YES COMMISSIONER

[5. ADOPTING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2023 FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE SESSION (RC): RESOLUTION No. 113-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE ADOPTION OF LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

RICH? YES COMMISSIONER BRUNER? YES? OKAY MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ADOPTING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR 2023 . GENTLEMEN BEN, I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE HANDLING THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR HERE AGAIN. UM WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU, THE 2023 SUGGESTED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. MR HOGARTH WILL BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THOSE POINTS AND WE CAN DISCUSS ANY LANGUAGE CHANGES YOU MAY HAVE AND THIS WILL BE RESOLUTION NUMBER 113 DISH 2022 RESOLUTION. THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY'S STEWART FOR AUTHORIZING THE ADOPTION OF LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS BEN HOGARTH COMMITTEE SERVICES FOR THE RECORD. UM I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND GOING INTO AT LEAST A DRAFT FORM FOR 2023. I DID OVER HERE BELIEVE DURING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER RICHES POINT ABOUT WHAT THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IS KIND OF FORECASTING FOR THE COMING AT LEAST AT LEAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S THE UM, KIND OF LEADERSHIP TENURE FOR HOUSE SPEAKER AND SENATE PRESIDENT, BUT, UM THERE'S A THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG FOCUS ON HOME RULE PROTECTION. UM I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I KNOW MARTIN COUNTY IS ALSO FOCUSED ON HOME RULE PROTECTION, SO NORMALLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT AS KIND OF A STANDALONE PRIORITY, BUT WE'RE PRESENTING IT IN THIS FASHION.

UM AND APPRECIATE MAYOR MCDONALD BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE GOING INTO THIS YEAR. IN THE SAME THING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE CRISIS. UM WHEN WE START LOOKING AT ALL OF THE POLICY PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS YEAR, UH, THEY'RE REALLY ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT A STATE LEVEL. UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE AFFECTING EVERYONE. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOME RULE PROTECTION, THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES AND IN COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS

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KIND OF THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE IN. BUT ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES ARE SO LARGE AND ENCOMPASSING, ESPECIALLY THE TWO BETWEEN HOMEOWNERS AND THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE CRISIS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. UH NO LOCAL GOVERNMENT REALLY CAN JUST ADDRESS THIS ON ITS OWN. UM SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO SEE AT THE STATE LEVEL , BUT WITHOUT GOING INTO EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL ITEM BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE CARRY OVERS FROM FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, JUST WITH SOME, UM DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE DRAFT FORM. I JUST WANT TO ALSO BRING ATTENTION TO THE NEW APPROPRIATIONS REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH WE'VE BEEN REMARKABLY SUCCESSFUL GETTING MONEY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. CERTAINLY. WITH THE CITY CITIES, UH, STAFF ASSISTING WITH THAT FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, AND CERTAINLY OUR REPRESENTATIVE DELEGATION THAT HAS REALLY HELPED US GET TO YOU KNOW THE OFFICES OF THE SENATE PRESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS INSTEAD OF THE ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY PROJECT, WHICH WE'VE RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE STATE AND TOTAL OF, I BELIEVE $2.25 MILLION OVER FOUR DIFFERENT YEARS OF REQUESTS. THIS YEAR. WE'RE STARTING A KIND OF A NEW APPROACH. UM AND THAT'S OF COURSE, IF THE COMMISSION AGREES AND WANTS TO GO THIS DIRECTION, AND THAT'S TO FOCUS ON ALL THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR REALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST EFFORTS THE CITY HAS UNDERTAKEN. UH AND SO WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO SCALE THIS SO THAT EVERY YEAR WE COULD MAKE A NEW REQUEST. WE REALIZE THAT THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROJECTS PER BASIN IN THE NEW STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR US TO AT LEAST GO TO THE TABLE TO REQUEST MONEY EACH YEAR AND IT'S STILL BE KIND OF AN EARNEST TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A NEW PROJECT . THIS ISN'T JUST A RECURRING REQUEST TO THE STATE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATORS THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T LIKE APPROVING SO THIS YEAR. IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES, WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THE STORM WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE WOODS POINT BASE, AND, UM, THAT'S I GUESS VERY CLOSE TO KRUGER CREEK . I'M NOT EXACTLY FAMILIAR WITH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD SHIRTS GO. YES OKAY, SO STATES, KRUGER CREEK AND THE ST LUCIE RIVER AS WELL. ALSO THANK YOU. EXACTLY AND SO, SO THAT'S JUST ONE OF TWO PROJECTS IN THAT BASIN. I APPRECIATE THAT MAYOR, BUT EACH BASIN AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION I BELIEVE IS APPROVED. UM EACH BASIN HAS A SERIES OF PROJECTS. I THINK 34 IN SOME CASES, SO IF THIS ALLOWS US TO AT LEAST GO TO THE TABLE AGAIN FOR MORE MONEY EACH YEAR IF WE JUST IDENTIFY THE BASIN EACH YEAR, THAT'S THAT'S IT'S JUST TRYING TO WORD IT IN A FASHION THAT WITH WATER PROJECTS . THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS USED TO, SO WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO KIND OF LOOK AT OUR NEEDS BUT ALSO TO SPEAK TO WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS USED TO HEARING IN THE REQUEST THEY'RE USED TO RECEIVING EACH YEAR. UM BUT WITHOUT GOING INTO MORE DETAIL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WERE OPEN TO REVISION . CERTAINLY FOR ANY OF THE ISSUES HERE, BUT I HOPE THIS IS A GOOD AT LEAST FIRST DRAFT FOR THE COMMISSION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE REST, BEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THESE, UM THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE IS OBVIOUSLY THE HOME RULE PROTECTION IS OUR I THINK OUR YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN FROM A WOOD. BESIDES YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO A FROM A STATEWIDE POLICY PERSPECTIVE, UM AND I WOULD URGE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MEMBERS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. UM AND THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE CRISIS, UH, IS GOING TO BE DISASTROUS. UH I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM THE INSURANCE AGENTS. I'VE SPOKE TO A 40% INCREASE ON AVERAGE NEXT YEAR FOR THE HOMEOWNER. AND I KNOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS PLANNED A SPECIAL SESSION IN DECEMBER. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'VE SAID THAT? I THINK THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF DECEMBER MAYBE. YEAH, I BELIEVE I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK JUST ON THE INSURANCE CRISIS, AND THAT'S THAT'S BEEN CREATED. THERE'S AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ON CITIZENS. UM ARE YOU KNOW OH, I'M ON CITIZENS, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREETS ON CITIZEN, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS. YEAH, EVERYBODY IS AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, AND CITIZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE INSURANCE OF LAST RESORT, NOT THE NORM FOR EVERYBODY AND HE'S THESE ARE GOOD, SOLID HOUSES. UM UH, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RENTERS ASSISTANCE THAT THE STARSKY FUNDS THE SKI, I ALWAYS MISPRONOUNCE THAT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CLARK. YEAH THEY WHAT WE FOUND ALSO AT SOME OF THE STATES HAVE BEEN DONE IS THAT SHIP FUNDING GENERALLY OVER OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS OR SO EACH YEAR? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NEED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET IN THE STATE. BUT WHEN THEY ADDED UP ALL THE FUNDS AND THE THESE ANALYSES THEY REALIZED THAT IN THE IN THAT 30 OR SOMETHING ODD YEARS THAT THEY DID THE STUDY.

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IT WAS MORE THAN I THINK TWO WAS A $2 BILLION THEY HAD BEEN SIPHONED FROM THAT PROGRAM OVER TIME SKI FUNDS IN I MEAN, OF COURSE YOU COULD. YOU KNOW, ONE COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT. WELL, IF THAT MONEY HAD BEEN THERE HAD BEEN USED. MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE. YOU KNOW, AS BAD AS IT IS, REGARDLESS, I THINK TO TRY AND KEEP THE LANGUAGES VANILLA. WHAT STAFF WAS DOING WAS BASICALLY JUST SAYING, HEY, AT LEAST FUND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. UM YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF WE SHOULDN'T MENTION SADOWSKI FUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S A SPECIFIC SEGMENT OF MONEY. THAT IS A TRUST. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A TRUST STATE TRUST FUND. UM THAT IS, I THINK IT COMES FROM WHAT TAX STAMPS. I THINK. YEAH I THINK SO. SO AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PAY EVERY TIME WE TRANSFER, YOU KNOW, HOUSE OR MORE, YOU GET A MORTGAGE. YOUR STOCK STAMPS PAID AND THAT IS MONEY THAT SET ASIDE FOR A SPECIFIC REASON IN THE STATE TENDS TO GO WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT, AND THEY JUST TAKE IT FOR OTHER THINGS. AND WHEN WE HAVE BUDGET SURPLUSES AND BALANCED BUDGETS THE WAY WE'VE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEY'RE STILL TAKING THE MONEY. THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S IT'S UNNECESSARY. UM. SEE AND THEN OF COURSE, I THINK, UH AND I THINK RESILIENCY AND LAND ACQUISITION. FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICE. E IS GREAT, ESPECIALLY THE RESILIENCY AFTER SEEING THE WATER IN, UM SHEPHERD'S PARK JUST FROM THE FROM THE HIGH TIDE AT THE SAME TIME, AS THAT STORM WAS COMING IN. I'VE BEEN HERE 28 YEARS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE WATER GO OVER THE SEA WHILE OR LIKE THAT. I'VE SEEN IT GET CLOSE. I'M SURE PROBABLY HAS, UH BUT BUT, UH, IT GOT IT GOT WAY UP THERE AND WE AND THANKFULLY WE DID A LOT OF, UH, WE DID THAT PROJECT WITH MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL AND THAT REALLY HELPED FOR US IS HELP, YOU KNOW, DRAINING THE WATER OUT AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UM, AT THE SAME TIME. UM WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO NEED TO WHO WILL BE LOOKING AT RESILIENCY EFFORTS IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COURSE I ALSO THINK THAT THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH OUR STORM WATER PROGRAM. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ARE I THINK YOU GUYS DID GREAT WORK ON THIS, UH I KNOW JUST ONE LAST THING. I THINK THE P FOCUSED REMEDIATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. MORE AND MORE OF. I THINK THE STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT THE PHOTOS CRISIS IS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME HERE IS SOMETHING THAT MOST PLACES ARE BEHIND. UM AND, UH, SO FAST. I SAID PEOPLE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LINK. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. UM SO UH, BUT ANYWAYS, THANK YOU AND THIS I NO, NO, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY BE TALKING TO REPRESENTATIVES. SNYDER AND SENATOR HAROLD REGARDING THESE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. GO ON. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD POINT BASED ON THE 500,000. I KNOW THAT. I JUST WANT TO THANK NOT JUST, UM REPRESENTATIVE OBERDORF WITH OLIVE OR REPRESENTATIVE, INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES SENT, UM SNYDER HAROLYN SNYDER FOR THEIR WORK AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, A HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BRING THIS UP AGAIN. BUT, UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS, I JUST WANT WONDERED IF MAYBE IF WHENEVER CITY MANAGER HAS TIME, MAYBE NOW OR LATER AT SOME OF THE MEETING.

JUST TO BRING US UP TO DATE. GIVE US A LITTLE BLURB ON HOW WE'RE DOING ON OUR REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT AND THE MONEY IS THAT WE'VE PLUGGED INTO THAT AND HOW WE'RE DOING ON THAT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO CONTINUE. EVEN IF IT'S NOT. THIS IS A DIFFERENT AREA TO WORK IN THIS BASIN. BUT AT LEAST THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF THE MONIES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE. AND THE LAST TWO, NOT THE LAST TWO, BUT THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE IN ITEM NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE WITH REGARD TO THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND HOW THAT'S ALSO TIED INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WITH THE SADOWSKI FUNDS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW THE DARK STAMP FUNDS THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE BEEN RAIDED BY OUR LEGISLATURES FOR OTHER THINGS. AND HAS MADE IT SO IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS IN PLACE WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, MR WHOLE GUARD IF YOU CAN FIND JUST LITTLE PIECES THAT WE CAN BRING SPECIFICALLY TO OUR LEGISLATURE, TO SAY, NOT JUST ONLY SUPPORT THESE THINGS IN LARGE, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, WHATEVER IS THERE IN THE SADOWSKI FUNDS THAT WERE TRYING

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TO GET AND WORK TOGETHER TO SEE SOMETHING ADDED TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLANS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE CITY OF STEWART? UM I JUST THINK THE LEGISLATURE HAS BUTCHERED THESE WHOLE FUNDING THING. THIS WAS A, UH, DEPART BEFORE IT USED TO BE THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY OF FEARS AND HE DIED IN A PLANE CRASH AND THEY DECIDED TO NAME THE FUNDS AFTER HIM, AND IT'S JUST BEEN TRAVESTY AFTER TRAVESTY WHERE THIS MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING FOR SPECIFIC PROJECT. AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH FROM THE STATE AND IF WE COULD. I'M GLAD THAT IT'S AT NUMBER TWO AND THREE WITH REGARD TO THE THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE HOUSING CRISIS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IF WE CAN GET OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR SENATORS BEHIND THIS AND PUSHED THEM, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND HOPEFULLY WHEN THEY SET THEIR DATE FOR THEIR LEGISLATIVE MEETING OUT AT UM I R S C OR EVEN HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS OR WHEREVER THEY DECIDE TO HAVE IT IN 2023 THAT WILL BE THERE WITH SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE WANT THEM TO BRING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY OR EVEN LOST, IMPLEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FUND IS USED APPROPRIATELY. TO HELP TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE CRISES AS YOU ACTUALLY ACCURATELY PUT IT THERE. THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE CRISIS AND THE RENTAL CRISIS, SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM THE OTHER THING IS THAT OKAY? I DID.

OK SO ONE MORE THING. SPEAKING OF WATER AND CLEARING UP BASINS AND DOING SOME WORK. NORMALLY WE PUT OUT INFORMATION ON THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE FAST AND I THINK THE CITY DID PUT OUT INFORMATION AND I SEE ALL KINDS OF STUFF GOING ON AROUND FACEBOOK ABOUT THAT, AS IF THE CITY IS DOING SOMETHING AS IF THINGS ARE SO BAD IN THE CITY INSTEAD OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE WORKING TO GET THINGS DONE, AND I THINK I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO IF WE NEED TO. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE PUBLIC SERVICE CAMPAIGN THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE. THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS PUT OUT THAT SAYS WHAT THE STATUS OF THINGS ARE. AND I JUST THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER COMMUNICATION IF MISTY OR IF THOMAS BERGER OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT'S WORKING ON OUR COMMUNICATION CAN MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WHEN WE PUT OUT THINGS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH PEOPLE AND PEOPLE FAST IS THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE. TO CORRECT SITUATIONS. OKAY CAN I SPEAK TO THAT DURING DURING THE WATER? SORRY SECOND. YOU DON'T OKAY? YES JUST JUST TO THAT POINT, HE MIGHT WANT TO RESPOND. JUST AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE LETTER THAT WENT OUT DUE TO OUR, UM HOW? WHAT ARE OUR NOTIFICATION LETTER TO THE CITIZENS? SO IT WAS VERY LEGALESE. UM IT WAS DONE THAT WAY AND CONJUNCTION WITH MR MARTEL AND OUR ATTORNEYS THAT ARE REPRESENTING US. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS NOT THE EASIEST OF REEDS AND I'VE BEEN ASKED BY SOME CITIZENS TO DO A FOLLOW UP TO THAT. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MISTY ABOUT SOME COMMUNICATIONS ON THAT AND ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY THAT OCCURRED. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE NOTIFICATION REALLY NECESSARILY NEED TO BE SENT. BUT RATHER THAN HAVING THIS BIG DEBATE OR FIGHT WITH THE EP OVER IT, WE SENT THE NOTIFICATION OUT ANYWAYS. WE'VE NOW SINCE BEEN SENDING OUR WATER TESTING TO FOUR DIFFERENT IS THAT CORRECT? FOUR DIFFERENT, UM, TESTING SITES AND GETTING NUMBER READINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO IT'S NOT NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE AS YOU WOULD AND EVEN ON THE ONE THAT WE HAD TO GIVE THE NOTIFICATION ON. AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN OUR SYSTEM. THE READINGS WERE DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, AND IN SOME LOCATION, RIGHT COMING OUT OF THE FILTER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BELOW THE NOTIFICATION LETTER UNDETECTED. SO WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL BUT THE FIGHT WITH THE EP JUST WASN'T WORTH IT. IT WAS JUST EASIER TO SEND THE NOTIFICATION LETTER OUT TO THE CITIZENS. MR COLLINS SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY INTERESTING IN REGARDS TO THAT THAT GAVE ME PEACE OF MIND WAS TALKING TO THOSE GENTLEMEN AT THE WATER'S WORTH IT BOOT CAMP AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE OFFENDING WELLS HAD BEEN SHUT OFF. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T REALLY TAKE AWAY FROM THAT LETTER IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TURNED THAT OFF, AND THE TRACE AMOUNTS THAT ARE LEFT ARE EASILY HANDLED BY THE FILTERS THAT WE HAVE. SO YOU'RE GETTING NONE. WHERE OTHERWISE, IT FELT LIKE, WOW, WE'RE JUST TAKING IN THIS CHEMICAL. HERE YOU WENT TO THE WATER IS WORTH IT WAS AMAZING. ISN'T IT? UNBELIEVABLE IT WAS IT IS IT IS IT THIS TIME, UNBELIEVABLE PROGRAM, AND I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD DO IT AGAIN. IT'S BEEN PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS SINCE I DID. IT SOUNDS GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER CLARK? AH, NO, BUT, UM. I DON'T KNOW SINCE HE BROUGHT UP THE WATER'S WORTH IT

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THING, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AGAIN THE SAME THING WITH THE QUALITY OF THE WATER AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING. I THINK IF YOU COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH MISTY OR TRY TO TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. YES. SO MY I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT AS THE APPROPRIATIONS REQUESTS. I FEEL LIKE, UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED TO COME ONLINE, AND WE ARE MAKING IT HARDER AND HARDER FOR, YOU KNOW LAND TO DRAIN DUE TO MORE CONCRETE AND LESS TREES. AND YOU KNOW ALL THE WAYS THAT TRAIN. IT NORMALLY HAPPENS TO REALLY PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND RETAINING THAT WATER AND HOW YOU KNOW ARE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. MANAGE THAT WATER THAT ARE GONNA SEE, UM. THE IMPACT FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES ONLINE. THAT LOT THAT AT ONE POINT WAS DRAINING IS NO LONGER FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND NOW THEY MIGHT HAVE THAT SHED HITTING THEM SO AH, THAT I LOVE SEEING THAT. MY DESIRE MY GOAL HERE IS TO SEE WATER QUALITY MOVE UP THAT LIST AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT HOME RULE AND HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE CRISIS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT FOR ME ARE RIVER IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF THIS CITY AND RECENTLY, I ACTUALLY PRINTED UP THE ARTICLE FROM TC PALM FROM CHERYL SMITH. THE. WATER ADVISORY BECAUSE THERE WAS FECAL BACTERIA IN OUR RIVER. FROM ON THE 22ND. I SERVE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO SURFING. WHEN THE WAVES WERE GOOD BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND I KNOW IT'S SELFISH, BUT I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S NOT ENJOYING OUR OUR RIVER AND OUR WATER. BECAUSE THERE'S FECAL BACTERIA. AND I'LL QUOTE HER HERE. A SIGN OF FECAL POLLUTION.

UH IT INHABITS THE INTESTINAL TRACK OF PEOPLE AND ANIMALS. THE BACTERIA'S PRESENCE IN THE WATER TYPICALLY COMES FROM PETS. WILDLIFE LIVESTOCK, HUMAN, SEWAGE AND STORMWATER RUNOFF, ESPECIALLY AFTER HEAVY RAINS, WHICH WE HAD JUST LEADING UP TO THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON LOCALLY AND HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. AND THIS IS SORT OF DOVETAILING WITH WATER IS WORTH IT. I WAS GETTING SOME OF THE INFORMATION AROUND THE SEPTIC TO SEWER RIGHT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WITH MR VOLCKER. WE'RE AT ABOUT 35. COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR THAT PROGRAM. AND IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF COME TO A HALT. SO WE HAD OUR INITIAL PERIOD WHERE, UM I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDING, BUT IT WAS DISCOUNTED, UM FORGIVE ME. SIGN UP AND SAVE OKAY, SO WE HAD OUR SIGN UP AND SAVE PROGRAM THAT HAS SINCE EXPIRED. AND WE'RE SITTING AT THIS POINT NOW WHERE THE ONLY REAL MOTIVATION TO MOVE ON TO SEWER IS YOU HAVE A FAILING SEPTIC THAT YOU CAN'T GET PERMITTED, AND SO YOU'RE SORT OF FORCED TO DO IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD.

THAT AS THE CITY YOU KNOW, WITHE IS NOT THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY. UM. ON 22 SIDES. ONE IS, UM FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL. I THINK WE SHOULD ANOTHER IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT OFF TRACK. HERE BUT FORGIVE ME. IT. THIS IS GONNA SOUND A LITTLE BIT ODD, BUT WE HAVEN'T INCREASED THAT. PFIEFFER THAT HOOK UP IN 10 YEARS. IT'S NEVER INCREASED ITS THE SAME $8000 THAT IT WAS, AND WITH THE EXPIRATION OF SIGN UP AND SAVE THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FINANCIALLY OTHERWISE TO DO IT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HANDLED INTERNALLY, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. INCREASING THAT FEE. ANT KNOW. IT'S A SIX MONTH WINDOW.

WHERE YOU'RE NOTIFIED AD NAUSEAM. THAT YOU CAN MAINTAIN THE CURRENT RATE. IF YOU SIGN UP , BUT IF YOU WAIT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE MORE. BUT AS A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY SIDE IS LOOKING FOR HOW TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS DO THAT. YEAH, COMMISSIONER, UM, THE RIGHT NOW OR THE WAY THAT IT'S DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE I SHOULD SAY, UM, THE STATE HAS TWO TYPES OF COMMUNITIES OUT THERE. THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE LIKE THE CITY OF STEWART, WHICH WE'VE AS OF 2020, I THINK COMPLETED THE CITY SIDE OF THE

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INFRASTRUCTURE INSULATION. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE THAT ADDITIONAL 65% THAT'S GETTING PEOPLE TO FINALLY MAKE THAT CONNECTION THAT HOOK UP. BETWEEN THE LINE AND THEIR HOME, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT, OF COURSE, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE STATE FUNDS. EVEN THOSE CONNECTIONS IN SOME WAY. HELP BRING DOWN THE COST. WHERE MAYBE EVEN SMALL, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN'T PERHAPS HELP THEM THAT MUCH? MAYBE THE STATE CAN HELP MORE. THAT'S THE INTENSE SORT OF WITH THIS LANGUAGE IS SAY, HEY, NOT JUST COMMUNITIES THAT ARE JUST LAYING INFRASTRUCTURE HELPING WITH THAT MONEY. BUT WHAT ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE ACTUALLY MAKE THE CONNECTIONS BECAUSE WE'VE COME SO FAR. HOW DO YOU KNOW? WHY DO WE STOP HERE? OF COURSE. THE COUNTER TO THAT IS ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID FULL PRICE . UM AND THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO SORT OF REVISITING. SIGN UP AND SAVE. IT WOULD BE UNFAIR TO EVERYBODY WHO DID IT. IN THE INTERIM. I THINK YOUR ONLY REAL OPTION WHICH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR ON THE FRONT END WITHOUT ANY LEGISLATIVE HELP. BUT IT'S LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY INCREASING THAT SINCE WE HAVE IN 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN DOING THAT INCREMENTALLY AND GIVING SOME SENSE OF WHAT THAT TIMEFRAME IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO THERE'S THAT PRESSURE BUT NOTIFYING PEOPLE RELENTLESSLY, YOU KNOW. ALL BECAUSE. OUR WATER AND KEEPING THAT WATER CLEAN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO. SO THAT THERE'S NOT FECAL BACTERIA FLOATING AROUND IN A RIVER. POTENTIALLY HURTING OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW? AND FURTHER EDIFICATION OF CERTAINLY FOR THE PUBLIC TO THE REASON WHY THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY, AND NOT JUST A LOCAL PRIORITY IS BECAUSE IF THE CITY OF STEWART DOES EVERYTHING IT'S SUPPOSED TO CLEAN UP 100% OF THE WATER, THE ST LUCIE RIVER, IT'S STILL GETTING STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM OTHER PLACES. EXACTLY THERE'S NOT LIKE YOU KNOW, EQUITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. IT WON'T SAY IT'S ALL FOR NOT BUT UM, IT REALLY DIMINISHES THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE IN THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE, SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE MAINTAINED WATER QUALITY IS AS A I THINK, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS, EVERY SINGLE YEAR WORK WHILE HE'S BEEN UP THERE. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO ASSUME THAT THE ORDER OF PRIORITIES UP HERE IS IT DOESN'T REFLECT ANY. IT DOESN'T. PERHAPS NOT NOW IT'S WE PUT HOME ROLL UP FRONT NUMBER ONE UNDERSTAND THAT WAS TAKEN FIRST POINT NUMBER ONE JUST WENT ON LIKE THERE WAS I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT HOME RULE WE PUT HIS NUMBER ONE JUST SO WE CAN STATE THAT UPFRONT TO THE LEGISLATURE. HEY, THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN BAD ENOUGH OVER THEY SEVEN PRIORITIES ARE JUST PRIORITIES AND THAT THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE JUST PRIORITIES. THE NUMBER IS JUST TO IDENTIFY ONE FROM ANOTHER BISHOP. RISK ARE YOU DOING, COACH COMMISSIONER RICH? YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS ? I GOT A LITTLE OKAY. I'M NOT SURE THAT SPECIFIC DISCUSSION DISCUSSION COMES UNDER LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. I AGREE WITH YOU 100, AND WE SHOULD WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT RE INCENTIVIZING. AH! YOU KNOW WATER USERS, TOO. SIGN UP. AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THIS GENTLEMAN HERE. UM BUT I LIKE YOUR FIRST IDEA OF CHANGING THE PRIORITIES BECAUSE. AS YOU SAID, MR HOGARTH, HOME RULE PROTECTION AND HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE CRISIS. CERTAINLY HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE THAT DESPERATE CONCERN IS SHARED BY EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN FLORIDA AND OUR MARTIN COUNTY'S PRIORITY ON THAT IS NOT ESSENTIAL, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RENTERS. I THINK CLEAR OUR COMMITMENT TO THAT SO FAR. BUT AS MR COLLINS POINTS OUT, COMMISSIONER COLLINS THE ONE AREA WE CAN IMPACT WHERE WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IRON, WATER QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

ESPECIALLY WITH LOS, UM COMING OUT, WHICH IS IN THE SPRING. RIGHT? SO THAT'S LIKE OKEECHOBEE SYSTEMS OPERATING, WHICH IS THEIR DESCRIPTION OF THE NEW RELEASE SCHEDULE, RIGHT AT THAT POINT WILL BE ASKED TO RESPOND TO IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WILL BE AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC'S ADVOCATION, ESPECIALLY THAT WILL BE KIND OF THE FINAL COMMENT PERIOD. BUT BUT, UM THE ARMY CORPS BY LAW HAS TO WRAP EVERYTHING UP AND HAVE IT. READY TO GO FOR CONGRESS TO APPROVE NEXT YEAR SO THAT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PRETTY MUCH START. THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING SORT OF THE TRANSITION TO THAT OPERATIONAL STRUCTURE WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, SO I THINK OUR INPUT ON THOSE ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. SO IT MAY SEEM INCONSEQUENTIAL, MR MAYOR, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO ONE I'M FINE WITH THAT. EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

COMMISSIONER CLARK. OKAY HAVE WE MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE REVOLUTION NUMBER? 113 NO, THAT'S 2022 MOVING ITEM NUMBER 4 TO 2. ABOVE HOME RULER UNDER HOME RULE ONE MADAM. HEY WE AGREE WITH THE ABOVE HOME RULE. BUT YEAH, OKAY, MOTIONING MOTION . OKAY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

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CLARK, WHERE WE CHANGE THE ORDER WHERE I DON'T WAS IT FOUR MINUTES UP TO NUMBER ONE, AND EVERYTHING JUST DROPS DOWN. CORRECT AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY IT WAS COMMISSIONER COLLINS.

OKAY COMMENT, OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE A CARBON, OKAY? SO MR HOGARTH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING SPECIFIC AS THE CLIMATE CHANGE, EXCEPT THAT NUMBER ONE, THE NEW NUMBER ONE WITH WATER AND SUSTAINABILITY IS THERE AND THEN WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, UM, THAT INVESTMENT IN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AND TRANSPORTATION. I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE IT MENTIONS ABOUT E V AND, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. WHAT IS THE CLIMATE FROM OTHER PEOPLE? WHY WE HAVE THIS UP ON THIS LIST RIGHT NOW. IN TERMS OF OTHER PEOPLE IN FLORIDA, YOU HEARD OUR DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE E V . CHARGING FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA . UM IS THERE THERE'S PRETTY STRONG THING. AND THE D O. T S ALSO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH TAIL IS WAGGING THE DOG HERE, BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU'VE GOT THE STATE GOVERNMENT. THERE'S CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, WORLD GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE PUSHING FOR THIS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS IN ECONOMICS IS ONE OF THEM. UM BUT WE EVEN THE ARMY CORPS IS TALKING A LOT ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WITH DUNE RESTORATION, AND THEY'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING SEAWALLS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY. PUBLIC FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE POURED INTO THESE PROJECTS OVER TIME. WHAT WE'RE HEARING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES IS LISTEN, ALL THE GRANTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR OUR YOU KNOW, THERE'S WIND INTEGRATION GRANTS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. BUT NOW IT'S ALL YOU KNOW. SEE THE OCEAN GRANTS LIKE WE JUST SAW WITH THE RECENT STORM THAT CAME THROUGH AND HITS OF THE SEA WALLS IN THE DUNES, ESPECIALLY UP IN NORTH AND CENTRAL FLORIDA. THAT'S THE EXACT SORT OF THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO MITIGATE IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE COAST. THERE'S INLAND, FLOODING ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD AS WE'VE DEVELOPED. WE'VE DISPLACED MORE WATER AND, YOU KNOW, CAUSING THE EFFECT. UH NOW WE HAVE MORE WATER TO ACTUALLY MANAGE AND LESS SPACE AND LAND TO DO IT ON. SO EVERYTHING EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM ALL THE STATE AGENCIES IS START GETTING YOUR GRANT WRITER. START FOCUSING ON GRANTS FOR THIS KIND OF MITIGATION. ASK YOUR LEGISLATURE FOR FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU KNOW, AS AS WATER GOES UP, NOT ONLY IS IT AFFECTING, YOU KNOW PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, YOU KNOW AS FAR AS DAMAGE, BUT IT ALSO REDUCES WATER QUALITY BECAUSE NOW THERE'S MORE RUNOFF, MORE HUMAN BASED POLLUTION THAT IS SEEPING INTO THE WATER LIKE WE'RE SEEING IN INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IN THE ST LUCIE RIVER, SO UM, THAT'S IT'S A REQUALIFY. IT'S WATER QUALITY, AND CERTAINLY IT'S PROTECTION OF PROPERTY. SO IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF TAKING OUR LEAVE FROM THAT. SO NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC CAMERA ON THIS ITEM. MR COMPANY, AND IT IS. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU PLEASE FILL OUT A GREEN CARD. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PENNY ST LUCIE CRESCENT. THERE IS ON THE SADOWSKI FUNDS IN 2021 TO LEGISLATURE. GUARANTEED AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 50% WOULD STAIN SADOWSKI. FUND SO THEY CAN'T TOUCH THAT MONEY ANY LONGER, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT INCREASE IN CERTAIN THINGS. UM AND AS AS TO RESILIENCY AND AS TO THE WATER. AS YOU KNOW, THIS GOVERNOR HAS BEEN IMPRESSIVE IN WHAT HE HAS DONE. WITH AH WATER AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY HERE IS RELEASED FOR IT. SO I THINK IF YOU DO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING MONEY. I THINK YOU'VE DONE IT EXCELLENT JOB SO FAR, BUT AS FAR AS THE SADOWSKI FUNDS ARE CONCERNED, THERE IS A THINK IT'S 50% THEY WILL NOT TOUCH EVERYTHING ELSE. THEY CAN STILL TOUCH. AND THEY STILL DO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S LEGISLATION THAT, SAYS 100% IS SUPPOSED TO BE INCIDENT, BUT THEY HAVE GUARANTEED 50% THEY HAVE DONE IT SINCE 2021. I THINK THAT I RECALL THE REALTORS PUSHING FOR THAT AND GETTING IT LAST IN BOTH TRUST FUNDS. OKAY SO WE HAVE, UH AND MR SMITH, COME ON UP. YEP AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE FILL A GREEN CARD OUT WHEN YOU'RE DONE AND YOU GOT THREE MINUTES TO MAKE IT ONE. UH I JUST GOT A QUESTION ON THAT CLEAN WATER. AND I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME TO MARTIN COUNTY ABOUT CLEAN WATER.

REMEMBER BACK 30 YEARS AGO, 35 YEARS AGO. MAYBE 40. WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD CLEAN WATER HERE, BUT WE HAVE SOME BAD SPOTS OR BAD WATER. BECAUSE ANY RIVER DRIVE BACK IN THOSE DAYS THEY HAD TO. SHE WAS RUNNING INTO THE RIVER. OKAY? DOWN THE COAST OF PORCELAIN TO WORK PRETTY CLEAN AND CLEAR. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE RUNOFF OF WATER COMING OUT OF INDIA. INDIAN TALENT THROUGH C 23 TO HEAR THE IMPACT THIS COMMUNITY THIS WATER HERE CLEAN WATER. I JUST WANT TO ASK

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THIS QUESTION. I HEAR ALL ABOUT ALL OF THAT STUFF. FOR LIVES AND ALL THAT GET INTO THE WATERWAYS AND EVERYTHING TO RUN OFF, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? THAT REGULATES. ALL THESE BOATS. WE GOT OVER 100,000 VOTES, PROBABLY IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND THE SEWAGE. THAT'S ALL NO BOATS. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. I DEAL WITH THE PORTAL AND A BOAT SOMEWHERE SEWER, JOHNNY U BOATS AND I'M QUITE SURE YOU GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BOAT THAT THE COUNTY OWNS CALLED MISS POOP , AND, UH AND MS POOP IS OUT THERE PUMPING OUT ALL THOSE BOATS AND THE F W C DOES TO, UH , REGULATION ON THAT? YEAH GO MEET THIS POOP TOUR. WE ALSO PUT A BECAUSE I KNOW ALL ALL THE TIME THAT I DO. I HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WATCHING, TOO. AND, UH AND I HEAR I HAVE FRIENDS THAT THIS TALKS ABOUT HOW DO YOU LET THE SOLE JOB ON THE WATERWAY.

AND UH, I THINK RIGHT DOWN THE IMPORTANCE OF LEARNING THERE WERE USED TO BE EFFICIENT MARKET. I WORKED THERE AS A KID. AND THE SAME THING HERE. THERE'S ALWAYS DUMPED IN THE WATER. AND I KNOW I KNOW THAT BOTH THAT'S ALL. BIG THING HERE FOR BOATING . THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. NO, JUST DISRESPECT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BOATS. I JUST THINK THAT THAT IS THE ONE PART OF OUR POLLUTION OF OUR WATER IF PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE WATERWAYS, WE DUMP A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I LIKE TO SEE CLEAN WATER. I'VE BEEN HERE OWNERS, SOME OF YOU AND WE HAD WE HAD PLENTY CLEAN WATER. WE CAMP OUT THERE. THAT'S WHEN I WAS A LOT OF BUT UNTIL WE STARTED OVERRUN WITH A LOT OF BOATS. AND THIS POOP. I DON'T THINK MISS POOH GETTING AROUND THAT MUCH TO GET ALL THESE BOATS. OKAY SO WE NEED TO PAY A LITTLE ATTENTION MORE CLOSELY TO THOSE THINGS ALSO, BESIDES SEEING THE WATER RUNNING OFF OF C 23 OVER HERE, IMPROVING WATER , SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S VERY NASTY. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A LOT OF CATFISH RIGHT TOO CLOSE TO THE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE BOTTOM FISH AND THEY LOVE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP. BECAUSE YOU HAVE BOTHERED. THANK YOU, JIMMY. AND JUST PEOPLE KNOW THE COUNTY DOES HAVE MS POOP. I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO OF THEM NOW, AND, UH, WHEN WE DID THE HARBOR BRIDGE AND MAYBE SUNSET BAY MARINA, I KNOW THAT WE INCORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. MIKE PROBABLY KNOWS BETTER THAN I DO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE. UH HOOKUPS SEWER HOOKUP FOR MISS POOP, TOO. EMPTY HER LEGS, NO CHARGE TO THE BOAT, AND THERE'S NO CHARGE TO THE VOTERS. FIVE MS POOP ONE OF THE HARD WORK RUNNING AROUND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOAT IS. IF YOU WANT.

YOU CAN ASK THE COUNTY BUT THEY GO TO THE COUNTY MEETING TO FIND THAT QUESTION OUT AS A POINT OF REFERENCE ALL OF THE BOATS THAT ARE MOORED BEHIND SUNSET BAY MARINA. THEY HAVE A LOG TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL PUMP OUT REGULARLY AS WELL AS ANY LIVE ABOARDS. IT SENDS UP A MARINA, MISS POOP LOGS EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEBODY GETS PUMPED OUT AND LOGS EVERY SINGLE TIME IT PUMPS ITSELF OUT AND KEEPS RECORDS TO BE ABLE TO VERIFY AND IDENTIFY BOATS THAT DON'T REGULARLY GET PUMPED OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING ON THEM, ETCETERA, AND THEY ACTUALLY KEEP PRETTY GOOD RECORDS AT THE MARINA'S BOTH HARBOR RIDGE AND SUNSET DAY OF EVERY SINGLE BOAT AND OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE BEING PUMPED OUT, PLUS, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION HAS A DYE THAT IF THEY PULL YOU OVER FOR THE STANDARD LIFEGUARD OR LIFE, INVEST CHECKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IN YOUR BOAT HAS A TOILET IN IT. THEY WILL DROP THE DYE IN YOUR TOILET AND FLUSH THE TOILET BECAUSE IT CAUSES THE WATER TO COME OUT NEAR THE BOAT BLUE, AND IT'S ILLEGAL FOR YOUR BOAT TO HAVE IT. SCHEDULED TO GO INTO THE WATER AND NOT GO INTO YOUR HOLDING TANK. AND THEY GET A, YOU KNOW, BIG CITATIONS AND POLLUTIONS CITATIONS, IF, IN FACT THAT DIE SHOWS UP IN THE WATER. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SHE SAID YOU GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. UM. YES COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES BRUNER HERE, COMMISSIONER RICH? YES, MCDONALD. OKAY MOVING ON TO ITEM

[6. IMPACT FEE UPDATES (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2508-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, AMENDING CHAPTER 32 ARTICLE III IMPACE FEES, ADJUSTING FEES AND LANGUAGE FOR COLLECTION AND NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND A CONFLICT CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES]

NUMBER SIX. IMPACT THE UPDATES. MICHAEL YOU READ THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 2508 TO 0 TO TWO IN ORDER TO THE CITY OF STEWART AMENDING CHAPTER 32.

ARTICLE THREE. IMPACT FEES. ADJUSTING FEES AND LANGUAGE FOR COLLECTION AND NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES PROVIDING FOR SURVIVAL SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND THE CONFLICT CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY AND DAVE? YES SIR. I'VE GOT THIS ITEM ON THE NEXT ITEM, SO THIS IS EARLIER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU HAD A REVISION TO THE STUDY THAT YOU GOT DURING THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. YOU ADOPTED THAT STUDY. AND SO THIS IS THE REVISION, READING ONE OF THE ORDINANCE REVISING OUR IMPACT FEES. THERE'S ALSO AN EXHIBIT ON

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THIS AGENDA ITEM OF THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'LL HEAR DURING SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM. THAT ELIMINATES THE IMPACT THESE FROM OUR, UM, SCHEDULE A AND IS PUTTING ALL OF THE IMPACT FEES INTO THIS ORDINANCE. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO CONTAINS A COUPLE OF MINOR LANGUAGE CHANGES TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT STATE LAW CHANGES. UM FOR INSTANCE, 90 DAY NOTIFICATION IF YOU'LL NOTICE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ORDINANCE, THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS IS 90 DAYS AFTER YOU ADOPTED THAT'S A NEW LAW REQUIREMENT. UM THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT ABOUT WINNING. THE FEES CAN BE COLLECTED THAT CHANGES THINGS, ORDINANCE AS WELL. AND BECAUSE OF US HAVING TO DO THE INCREASES IN INCREMENTS. DO THE STATE LAWS , DICTATION OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE OUTLINED EACH OF THE INCREASES FOR EACH OF THE IMPACT FEES. AND THE ORDINANCE FROM 2023 2024 2025 2026 BEYOND SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO RE ADOPTED EVERY SINGLE YEAR IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE. FOR ALL FOR ALL FOUR YEARS. I WANT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE EMOTION. COMMISSIONER COLLINS SO MY MORE OF A CONCERN.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UM I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT I REALLY TRIED TO HONE IN SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ONE. I GUESS THE QUESTION WHEN P I SHOULD LEAD OFF WITH THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT. THIS FEE SCHEDULE AS GOSPEL RIGHT? WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUGMENT THIS. YES SO THE STUDY IS, YOU KNOW, USES THE DATA, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONSULTANT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY USE THE FEES THAT HE RECOMMENDS. NOW, IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT A FEW. THAT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN WHEN HE COMES BACK. I THINK YOU'LL BE CHALLENGED BY DEVELOPERS. BUT IF YOU KEPT IT THE SAME OR LOWER THAT'S COMPLETELY LEGIT. AND SO FOR ME, I'M NOT NECESSARILY WORRIED ABOUT NONRESIDENTIAL. BUT IN THE REALM OF RESIDENTIAL SO SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTI FAMILY. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WITH HOW MUCH MULTI FAMILY WE'VE APPROVED. AND MAYBE YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THIS. AFTER TOP OF YOUR HEAD YOU ON SO I AM ON PAGE 25 OF THE AGENDA PACKET. OF 1 69. I'M ACTUALLY BACK WHERE IT WAS INITIALLY AT THE STUDY. YES, SIR. SO. WITH HOW MUCH MULTI FAMILY WE'VE APPROVED. MY CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY MY WHOLE THING IS HOMEOWNERSHIP. YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF MY BUT I'M PITCHING FOR DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD. BUT. IT'S NEARLY WITH WITH THE FOUR YEAR MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE IMPACT FEE SORT OF TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH CURRENT FEES VERSUS MAX ALLOWABLE. IT'S NEARLY TWICE AS EXPENSIVE TO BUILD FROM AN IMPACT FEE STANDPOINT. A NEW SINGLE FAMILY UNIT VERSUS MULTI FAMILY UNIT. AND, UM OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY OF STEWART DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM LEFT FOR THESE LARGE GATED COMMUNITIES OR ANYTHING. SO MY THOUGHT PROCESSES. FOR LIKE LET'S SAY ANY STEWART, RIGHT? YOU HAVE. THERE IS ACTUALLY A DECENT NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOT. ANDY STEWART. I WANT TO SEE IT AS AFFORDABLE AS POSSIBLE.

FOR SOMEBODY TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WITH HOW EXPENSIVE EVERYTHING IS, MAN. QUICK QUESTION. SURE. THERE WAS ALREADY A HOME THERE, AND IT WAS TORN DOWN THE MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE AN THERE WOULD NOT BE AN IMPACTED CORRECT THE IMPACTS ALREADY THERE. CORRECT THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION. SO JUST SO I CAN T STEWART WHERE A LOT OF HOMES HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN. IF YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE THROUGH THE HOME THERE BEFORE THEN THERE IS NO IMPACT THE BECAUSE THE IMPACT IS ALREADY BEEN REALIZED. YOU WILL GET AN IMPACT CREDIT EQUAL TO THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE BEFORE SO IF THERE WAS A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOME THERE BEFORE OR AT 1800 SQUARE FOOT UNDER 2300 SQUARE FOOT HOME BEFORE THE CREDIT WOULD BE FOR AN UNDER 2300. AND THEN IF THE NEW HOUSE WERE 4000 SQUARE FEET, THEY WOULD STILL OWE THE DIFFERENCE. IDEA HOW WHAT WHAT PERCENTAGE LIKE I KNOW THIS IS A CRAZY THING TO ASK TO THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE LOT TO PRESENT IT. I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BE BUILD THE SIZE OF THE LOTS ARE SO SMALL. OKAY THERE, 50 FT WATCH SHOULD BE HARD TO PUT LIKE A 3000 SQUARE FOOT THAT HAVEN'T HAD THAT THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. CONSTRUCTION. THAT WOULD BE THERE. THEY'RE PROBABLY OLD PHOTOS. I MEAN,

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THERE'S PROBABLY WAYS TO DETERMINE THAT, BUT BASICALLY SO WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS IS WE ALREADY HAVE PROVISIONS FOR WITHIN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MULTI FAMILY TO GET BACK.

CREDIT. FOR THE IMPACT FEES RIGHT THERE BASICALLY WAVED OR CLOSE TO THAT IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE AN AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY IF IT'S TRUE, OUR ORDINANCE CONTEMPLATES IF THERE IS A TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD THAT THE COMMISSION MAYBE BE THE MANAGER CAN WEIGH THE IMPACT THESE SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY STIFLING, AFFORDABLE, MULTI FAMILY. IT'S JUST, UM BRINGING THESE NUMBERS CLOSER TOGETHER WHERE SINGLE FAMILY LOOKS MORE LIKE MULTI FAMILY WOULD AFFECT MORE OF LIKE THE HIGHER END, MULTI FAMILY BASIC. BASICALLY, I GUESS IT'S THE SUMMARY IS THE HIGHER THESE IMPACT FEES ARE THE MORE OF, UH, AN IMPEDIMENT THERE IS TO DEVELOP THAT TYPE OF THING, AND SO WHEN IT COSTS TWICE AS MUCH TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT IS A MULTI FAMILY. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING WITH OUR IMPACT FEES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I GUESS JUST TO GET TO CUT TO IT. IT IS. BRINGING THAT NUMBER CLOSER, BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP AT THE YEAR FOR MAX ALLOWABLE SINGLE FAMILIES, 2100. 2112 MULTI FAMILIES 1185. HOW MUCH ROOM DO WE HAVE? WE CAN'T KICK UP. WE DON'T NECESSARILY KICK UP MULTI FAMILY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THE STATE WON'T LET YOU DO THAT. CAN WE BRING SINGLE FAMILY DOWN OR KIND OF OFFSET THE TO BRING THEM CLOSER TOGETHER, SO THERE'S NOT SO MUCH DISPARITY BETWEEN HERE. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF ORDERING THE SINGLE FAMILY IMPACT FEE, BUT IT'S I AND UNFORTUNATELY CONSULTANT ISN'T HERE. BUT MAYBE MIKE OR DAVE CAN SAY IS, I THINK THAT IT'S YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT AND IT'S ACTUALLY A MULTITUDE OF FEES. UNDERSTAND I ALSO THINK FROM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY IS THE MULTI FAMILY IF YOU HAVE A COMPLEX WITH 50 UNITS THE IMPACT IS SPREAD OUT OVER THOSE FOR THAT SIZE PROPERTY OVER, UH, LARGER. I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION. I'M TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A HOST OF INFORMATION THAT CAME TO THAT ASSESSMENT, RIGHT. BUT MY BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF IT'S THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH DISPARITY WERE REALLY TELLING DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF LARGER PROJECT THAT WE END UP BEING XING INN OR SOMETHING. YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD MULTI FAMILY. IT'S GOING TO COST YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 11 MILLION OR TWO MILLION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY AND IMPACT THESE YOU'RE GONNA BUILD MULTI FAMILY SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A LARGER PROJECT THAT WE ANNEX IN. MAYBE SOMETHING IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT IF IT'S A LARGER PROJECT THAT THE DIFFERENCE AND IMPACT FEES CAN BE DRAMATIC FOR A DEVELOPER, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. HOW WE PARSE THAT OUT OF ALL OF THOSE OTHER FEES AND WHAT THE NEXUS IS, TOO. EACH ONE OF THOSE FEES BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THOSE FEES HAS A THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON INTERNALLY PRESIDENTIAL IMPACT. TERRIBLE IDEA. YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THERE IS THE RESIDENTIAL EFFECT IS GOING DOWN. ALL FOUR YEARS FOR BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY. SO THERE IS A REDUCTION OVERALL . UM IN THOSE CATEGORIES, THE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL IS THERE'S NOT THERE'S GOING UP. BUT THE DIFFERENCE THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE AND MULTI, IS THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY ARE LOTS ARE SPREAD OUT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT GIVEN JANUARY THAT WE HAVE PRIMARY. THE MOST OF OUR VACANT LOTS ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS SCATTERED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A DEVELOPER . IT'S GOING TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO BUYS A LOT WANTS TO BUILD A HOME ON IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY A $2000 IMPACT FEE ON THERE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DEVELOPER WHO'S GOING TO COME AND SAY, I'M GOING TO BUY THESE 70 LOTS THAT ARE SCATTERED OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE AND DEVELOP HOME. POTENTIALLY IF WE ANNEX IN ALONDRA PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE ISN'T MUCH TO ANNEX BECAUSE OF THE WAY ANNEXATION. THE SHORT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS THAT IT'S A TWO READING MANNER. UM I KNOW THAT MICHELLE BURGER WAS WORKING WITH EXTRA BASE AND I KNOW SHE REACHED OUT AND SENT HIM AN EMAIL TONIGHT. UM WE CAN CONSULT WITH HIM ON IT AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT INTERNALLY A LITTLE BIT AND THEN COME BACK FROM THAT. WE APPROVE IT FOR FIRST READING. OKAY THEY CAN, UH AND YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF AND COME BACK, MAYBE COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND EXPLANATION TO IT.

ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY, MICHELLE. MR MAYOR. DAVID. MICHELLE BURGER, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. JUST A REMINDER THAT BY POLICY IF YOU HAD A PROJECT BECOME ANNEXED INTO THE AREA,

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AND YOU WANTED TO OFFER REDUCED FEES, YOU COULD LOWER IT BY POLICY AND BY VOTE MAJORITY. BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO RAISE IT. BUT YOU HAVE THAT POWER. OKAY, COMMISSIONER RICH. HOW MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE BUILT? IN THE CITY LAST YEAR THAT PAID THE IMPACT FEE. BECAUSE I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THE NEW HOMES THAT WERE BUILT WERE BUILT HOME EXISTED BEFORE. I THINK WE'RE TALKING 10 20. MAYBE IT'S NOMINAL. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL 10 OR 20 AND ENTIRE CITY FOR THE GIFT. SO WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS NOT NECESSARILY , UM AND I REFERENCED THE STUART. THAT'S ONE CONSIDERATION JUST TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO PUT A HOME THERE. BUT I'M THINKING MORE LONG TERM WITH ANNEXATION AND, UH, FOR A PROJECT TO POTENTIALLY BE SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS UM MULTI FAMILY. I MEAN, THIS IS THE PRICE OF THE REFRIGERATOR. THIS FEEZER. PER STRIKE PER UNIT. SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT THERE, THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT, LIKE I SAID THAT COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MILLION DOLLARS AND THEIR IMPACT FEES. IF YOU I'M NOT SEEING HOW YOU GET TO A MILLION DOLLARS IN IMPACTED WHAT? LET'S LET'S GO WITH THE MULTI FAMILY PROJECT RECENTLY THAT WAS LARGE. COSTCO.

JUST FOR FUN. WHAT IMPACT FEES AT COSTCO PAY? THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET A PERMIT. BRIDGEVIEW ANY IDEA ABOUT SPRING TREES ENTRY DID SPRING TROOPS. I HAVE NO IDEA TO 88. I MEAN, EIGHT UNITS TIMES, BUT ABSOLUTELY THERE'S ALSO THE SCHOOL, BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THAT IS, MISS BERGER SAID THAT IF WE WERE TO ANNEX A LARGE PARCEL IN WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY LARGE PARCELS, ACTUALLY CONTINUOUS, THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED TO US THAT WE COULD ANNEX IN AT THIS POINT AND THEY WERE TO COME FORWARD WITH THE ARTIST, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING BY POLICY. WE COULD UH, ABOUT TO DECREASE THOSE IMPACT FEES. AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR THE EU, DEAR, WHATEVER THEY CAME IN FOR WHATEVER WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT IS THAT. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND NORMALLY THE WAY THAT I'VE OBSERVED US OPERATING IS THE DEVELOPER SORT OF COMES IN WITH A PLAN. SO IF THEY'RE THINKING ON THE FRONT END THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE MULTI FAMILY KIDS, THERE'S LESS IMPACT FEES, POTENTIALLY WE'RE NOT GONNA FLIP THEM ON MAKING IT SINGLE FAMILY. BY DECREASING THEIR IMPACT FEES OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE ANYWAY. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THEIR DECISION BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO THINK THE IMPACT FEES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT ALL UP TO A DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY, OKAY? OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? MOTION. OKAY ALRIGHT. ARE YOU DOING COMMISSIONER COLLINS OR MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER ORDINANCE? SORRY ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OR 8 2022 AS PUBLISHED. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? 2ND 2ND BY COMMISSIONER RICH. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? SUSAN.

COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES MACDONALD COMMISSIONER COLLINS. COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES

[7. ADDING INVOCATIONS TO THE AGENDA (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2509-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING THE STUART CITY CODE, CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION AMENDING ARTICLE II DIVISION 2; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY OF THE PARTS HEREOF; PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE ONLY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]