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I THINK WE HAVE A QUORUM CALL TO ORDER LET'S SHALL WE STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE. PLEASURE RELATIONS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND SHE WAS THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD , INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. AW CHERIF. WE MAY DO ROLL CALL AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. CHAIRPERSON LAUREN HERE, MY STRAIGHT PERSON, BROWNFIELD.
BOARD MEMBER MATHERS HERE, REMEMBER STRONG HERE, VITALITY HERE. PRETTY. I APOLOGIZE. I DID
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THAT OUT OF ORDER. OKAY, SO THE AGENDA HAS HAD SOME CHANGES. UM I'M GOING. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE COMPLICATED OR I CAN EXPLAIN THEM. SO UM, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE EAST STEWART AMENDMENTS TOGETHER SO THE ORDINANCES WILL BE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2500 STASHED 2023 EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD, SMALL SCALE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT THAT WILL REMAIN AS ITEM NUMBER TWO ITEM NUMBER THREE WILL BE THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 99-2023. ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL BE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 7-2023. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CREEK DISTRICT. UM ITEM NUMBER FIVE WILL BE THE CREEK DISTRICT, SMALL SCALE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OH 2-2023 ITEM NUMBER SIX WILL REMAIN, WHICH IS THE CREEK DISTRICT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OH 1-2023 ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WILL BE THE CREEK DISTRICT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 24 98-2023. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY? ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW AGENDA. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED ALRIGHT? UM WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE LAST[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
MEETING OF OCTOBER 13TH. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TOOK SECOND IN FAVOR OPPOSED. OKAY. GREAT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. GENERAL COMMENTS. KEVIN COMMENTS[COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)]
BY BOARD MEMBERS. ACTUALLY BEFORE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. I DID WANT TO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND BE ON BEHALF OF THE L P. A MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY LOST. LARRY MASSING BETWEEN OUR LAST MEETING , AND THIS ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN AS FINAL MEETING BECAUSE HE WAS AT A AT LARGE MEMBER, LARRY WAS A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THE CITY OF STEWART.HE ACTUALLY GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND JOINED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN HE WAS 18 YEARS OLD, ROSE THROUGH THE RANKS AS A FIREFIGHTER AND THEN ULTIMATELY BECAME THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND SERVED BOTH OF THOSE ROLES FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE LITERALLY RETIRING. AT AGE 48. AND WHEN HE RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF STEWART. HE THEN TOOK A JOB AT MARTIN COUNTY AND BECAME THE BUILDING INSPECTOR OF MARTIN COUNTY. BUT EVEN AFTER HE LEFT THE CITY THAT'S WHEN HE STARTED SERVING IN THE L P A ROLE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, AND HE WAS REALLY A NICE ADDITION TO THE BOARD BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LET THE ROLE HE HAD OF THE COUNTY REALLY INTERFERE WITH THIS POSITION AND DIDN'T INFLUENCE THE BOARD AND SITUATIONS EVEN WHEN THERE WERE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AT ODDS, SO TO SPEAK WITH THE COUNTY, THERE WERE TIMES THAT HE HAD TO AH! WITH OR NOT PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF VOTING CONFLICTS, BUT HE NEVER EXPRESSED OPINIONS OR PUSHED ANY AGENDA TO TRY AND INFLUENCE BOARD MEMBERS DURING THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH IS REALLY APPRECIATED. AND HE WAS REALLY A NICE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF OUR BOARD. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT HE REALLY WILL BE MISSED, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO LOSE HIM IN THE WAY WE DID. AND IT WILL BE HARD TO REPLACE. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO MAKE A COMMENT.
ABSOLUTELY WANTED TO THANK JACKIE. UM SHE IS SERVING AT HER FINAL MEETING. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH JACKIE FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH . ALRIGHTY SO LET'S GET TO THE
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FIRST ACTION ITEM. THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU . PANEL. GHANDI SERVED A C R A DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. UH THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FORM BASED CODE WORK PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. TODAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ORDINANCES FOR[00:05:05]
SMALL SCALE FUTURE LAND USE, NOT AMENDMENT, ZONING, MAP AMENDMENT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR BOTH AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WHICH IS THE EAST. STUART NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CREEK DISTRICT. UH THE DRAFTS WERE PRESENTED TO ALL THE BOARDS CRB LP AND CITY COMMISSION BACK IN SEPTEMBER. WE RECEIVED YOUR INPUT AND WE WENT BACK AND MADE SOME CHANGES. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT SOME OF THOSE CHANGES FROM FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE FROM THE BOARDS AT THAT TIME. UM THE BOARD DID RECOMMEND TO BRING THE ITEMS BACK FOR ADOPTION HEARINGS . SO HERE WE ARE. TODAY THE MEETINGS WERE PROPERLY NOTICED, WERE REQUIRED TO MEET THE FLORIDA STATUTE REQUIREMENTS. UM NOTICES WERE POSTED AROUND THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT AREA. WE ALSO MAILED NOTICES TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA AND ALSO WITHIN 300 FT OF THE PROJECT OVER 1700 NOTICES WENT OUT TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARING DATE. AND WE ALSO PUBLISHED THE NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, AS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTE. WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF PUBLIC OUTREACH THE MEAT THE PROJECT ACTUALLY KICKED OFF BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2021. WE INTRODUCED THE FORM BASED CODE TO CRB AND CITY COMMISSION IN NOVEMBER. 2021 WE STARTED MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND BOARD MEMBERS TO GATHER INPUT TO START THE WORK. AND THEN WE HAD OUR FIRST WORKSHOP IN ON JANUARY. 11TH ANDY STEWART . WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETING TOGETHER INFORMATION TO UPDATE THE E. STEWART MASTER PLAN THAT IS STILL A WORKING PROGRESS, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THAT WORK ON THAT AND PRESENT THAT AT A LATER DATE. AFTER THAT, WE HAD A WALKING TOUR OF BOTH AREAS. WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE KEY PROPERTIES WITHIN BOTH AREAS. UM THE EXISTING STREETSCAPE AND HOW THE BUILDING DESIGN UM CORRELATES WITH THE STREETSCAPE. WE HAD. THAT'S A NEAT THEN WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOP ON MARCH 7TH. AH THIS ALSO WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH LEARNING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF EAST STEWART. AND WE HAD A WORKING IN PROGRESS MEETING IN JUNE, WE PRESENTED A DRAFT CODE TO BOTH THE CREEK DISTRICT AND THE E. STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS ON THE SAME DATE AND WE RECEIVE SOME INPUT AT THAT TIME ALSO, AND THEN SINCE L P A MEETING THIS YEAR BE RECOMMENDED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETING IN OCTOBER. SO WE HAD THAT MEETING AT 10TH STREET, AND UM AND THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT CODE. WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH CONCERNED CITIZENS OF EAST STUART. WE'VE INTERVIEWED AND ENGAGED OVER 110 RESIDENTS. PROPERTY OWNERS, STAKEHOLDERS. CRB MEMBERS REVIEW OF THE DRAFT CODE WE'VE HAD. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD. WE'VE HAD LOCAL PROFESSIONALS REVIEW THE CODE AND PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE CODE. AND WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES. BASED ON THE COMMENTS RECEIVED, WE NAILED OVER 3500 POSTCARDS, 1500 FLYERS AND 500 DOOR HANGERS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. UM AND WE'VE COMMUNICATED ALL OF OUR PROPOSED CHANGES AND ANY UPDATES AND MEETINGS THROUGH OUR CITY'S WEBSITE NEWSLETTERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. UM THIS THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM AND THEY'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT SO FAR. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE ORDINANCES OF THREE ORDINANCES ARE FOR THE EASTER NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE PRESENTING THE. THE AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS FIRST AND REQUESTS THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT. COULD AMENDMENT TOGETHER, BUT THEN ASKED FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION SEPARATELY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR THE CREEK DISTRICT WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE SNAP AMENDMENT ASKED THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND, UM , AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT RECORDING IN PROGRESS FOR THE CREEK DISTRICT, AND I SUPPORT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT SEPARATELY. SO WE HAVE JESSICA SEYMOUR HERE FROM THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. SHE'S GOING TO GO MORE IN DEPTH ON THE LAND ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR BOTH AREAS. HI UM JESSICA SEYMOUR FROM TREASURE COAST.REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILORS PANEL, GANDHI, SANDERS STATED, UM WE WERE BROUGHT IN BY THE CITY TO TAKE ON THIS SPECIAL TASK AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT BACK THE RESULTS AND
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PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE, UM SO JUST A LITTLE BIT AGAIN ABOUT ME IF YOU IF YOU DON'T RECALL, I WORKED WITH TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL WHERE ONE OF 10 PUBLIC UM REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS IN THE STATE. WE ONLY WORK FOR MUNICIPALITIES . WE DON'T WORK FOR DEVELOPERS.UM AND WE GET TO PROVIDE THIS KIND OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO MUNICIPALITIES WHENEVER, UM, IT'S REQUESTED. THIS IS THAT TIMELINE IN A LINEAR FASHION THAT PUT ALL WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT. UM AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR LAST PUBLIC WORKSHOP WAS ON 10TH STREET AT ON OCTOBER 11TH. AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. THE NEXT MEETING. THIS IS THE FIRST IN THE THREE ADOPTION HEARING, SO WE'LL COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON JANUARY 17TH. UM AND WE'RE SCHEDULED TO COME BACK FOR THE FINAL READING ON FEBRUARY 13TH. OKAY SO THE FIRST PIECE OF THIS IS THE PIECE? THAT'S OUR FUTURE. LAND USE MAPS CHANGE. UM AND THESE ARE MAPPED . THIS IS OUR EXISTING FUTURE LAND. USE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS FOR E. STEWART AND AS YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS REALLY? THE PLATE THAT YOUR MEAL WILL REST ON. RIGHT SO WE'RE PREPARING FOR, UM, WHETHER OR NOT PREPARING FOR DINNER OR PREPARING FOR DESSERT. THIS IS THE PLATE THAT ESTABLISHES THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ALL OF THE NUANCED DETAIL. UM THIS IS THE BIG PICTURE OF THE CITY PLANNING. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS, UM , FOR THE MOST PART, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ISN'T CHANGING, SO I'M JUST GONNA HIGHLIGHT AREAS WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING A CHANGE. SO ONE OF THEM IS AN AREA WITH AN EXISTING HOMES ON IT THAT'S DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC. WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THAT INTO EAST STEWART, WHICH IS A MIXED USE DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S THERE TODAY. SO THIS IS CORRECTING SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S IN OFFICE. RESIDENTIAL UM, WE WANT TO BRING THAT INTO THE EAST STEWART DESIGNATION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DENSITY PROVISIONS BETWEEN THE TWO FUTURE LAND USES THERE IS IDENTICAL. UM ALSO ON MLK IS THE MULTI FAMILY DESIGNATION. WANT TO BRING THAT INTO THE EAST STEWART DESIGNATION SO THAT WE HAVE LIKE PLANNING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. UM AND THEN THAT'S THE SAME APPROACH THAT WE'RE USING FOR THESE DESIGNATIONS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A VACANT LOT ON MLK. THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON MLK. AND THEN THIS IS A STRING OF PROPERTIES ON 10TH STREET. UM THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY COME INTO THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. WE'LL TOUCH UPON THE ZONING THAT WE RECOMMEND BEING APPLIED, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE. UM THIS SITE FOR REFERENCE ALREADY HAS AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR A DAYCARE. AND IT ALREADY HAS THAT EAST STEWART SPECIFIC ZONING DESIGNATION. SO AGAIN, WE'RE ALIGNING THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS SO THAT THEY SPEAK TO EACH OTHER APPROPRIATELY. UM THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING THAT WE INTEND TO APPLY TO THIS AREA AGAIN FOR REFERENCE IS S F D, WHICH STANDS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, AND THAT HAS A DENSITY PROVISION OF 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. SO THEN THE END RESULT IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAPS THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS THE DELTA BETWEEN ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE RECONNECTED RECOMMENDED RESULTS IN AGAIN FROM A HIGH LEVEL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, UM , A PROPOSED DIFFERENCE OF 20 DWELLING UNITS. UM SO NOT A BIG CHANGE. IT'S NOT CHANGING SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE DENSITY. IT'S SO THAT WE CAN ASSIGN A SIMILAR FUTURE SIMMER ZONING DISTRICTS, ALL ALONG MLK AND ALL ALONG 10TH STREET. WHERE TODAY THEY DON'T, UM, THEY DON'T ALIGN THE SAME WAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME DESIGNATIONS. UM AND AGAIN IT IT CLEANS UP SOME OF THE ONE OF THESE PARCELS THAT NEEDED TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON IT, WHICH IT DIDN'T ALREADY. UMT THROUGH THAT FAST. BUT THIS ONE THIS IS PRETTY UM BIG, STRAIGHTFORWARD AND A LOT OF MORE OF THE DETAILS ARE IN THOSE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, NOT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE.
SHOULD WE ASK THE QUESTIONS NOW, MIKE? HOTEL OR SHOULD WE WAIT AND HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN BOARD MEMBERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS . IF YOUR DISCRETION, OKAY? YOU'RE GONNA GET. OKAY? SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU WANNA ASK NOW, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT ON THIS ACTUALLY IN USE?
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OKAY ALRIGHT. UM, CAN YOU FILL OUT A CARD? IS THIS THE WAY YOU WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT ON? SECTION. THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT ONES OF THESE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT NOW OR LATER, JESSICA. OKAY, BECAUSE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. ALRIGHTY. SIR. WE'RE READY. STATE. YOUR NAME, PLEASE. BROOKS YOUR BOYS I LIVE AT 908, SOUTH EAST SIXTH STREET. OKAY RIGHT BEHIND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PROPOSED CHANGES WHERE THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. OKAY CLOSER TO PALM BEACH TRUCK. THE PURPLE ALL THE WAY OVER THAT WAY, OKAY, RIGHT THERE. SO WE MET A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THAT ONE LARGER PARCEL THAT ACTUALLY EXTENDS TO SIXTH STREET. UP TO THE RIGHT AGAINST BOMBINGS. SO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WE DID NOT WANT DUPLEXES MHM, FOR SOME REASON, THE DEFINITION OF A DUPLEX IS SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT SO THE PROPOSAL, AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I MET WITH JESSICA. EXTENSIVELY YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE HOURS THE OTHER DAY. I KNOW THE IDEA OF WHAT THE CONCEPT IS. BUT WE'RE KIND OF ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UM THE THEY CAN'T LAND. I THINK IT'S A PROPOSED DAYCARE RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE IT GOT PASSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. BUT IF. THE DEVELOPER. THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD THAT. THEN THEY COULD PUT DUPLEXES. SO I'VE LIVED. FINNMARK COUNTY 52 YEARS, UM I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL. BY NAME.NOT BY PERSON, BUT I KNOW YOU. YOU LIVE ACROSS FROM DUPLEXES RIGHT NOW. THEY USED TO BE BEAUTIFUL DUPLEXES. ELDERLY RESIDENTS USED TO COME DOWN. THE REBUILDING THEIR LOOKING NICER NOW, BUT WHEN YOU INTRODUCED DUPLEXES INTO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DRAWS A VALUE DOWN. I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK. YOU BUILD A DUPLEX THAT'S REALLY NOT AFFORDABLE. PLACE THE RENTS HIGH. YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT. I THINK THE ONLY THING YOU CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW IS HABITAT FOR YOU, MAN ITTY BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRICE HIKE CENTER. SO MY AND I TALKED TO JESSICA. OH I'M SORRY BEHIND THE SCREEN. YEAH BUT YOU KNOW TO ME ALL THAT AREA SHOULD BE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER HOUSE AROUND THERE. WE'RE KIND OF BROKE OFF. THE STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT KIND OF SEPARATES US.
FROM THE STORE SECTION, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE USED TO, OR ANY SALVATION ARMY. RIGHT THERE.
THEY'RE BUILDING THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDING RIGHT THERE. NO, NO, NO. TO ME. WE'RE KIND OF SEPARATE. FROM THE STORE DISTRICT. AND MY MIND. WHICH. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT BEHIND MARTIN LUTHER KING. SO ALL MY NEIGHBORS AND WE'VE TALKED BEFORE BECAUSE WE WERE HERE. ON THAT ONE OF THE PARCEL OF LAND RIGHT THERE THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT TWO DUPLEXES ON MARTIN LUTHER KING BECAUSE THEY'RE 75 FT WIDE LOTS, WHICH SOME OF THE HOUSES ARE 75 FT. SO IF SOMEONE FORECLOSES DEVELOPER INVESTOR COMES IN. WITH THIS LAW OR THIS PASSING, THEY CAN KNOCK DOWN THEIR HOUSE AND PUT A DUPLEX THERE. SO THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT? OKAY. DID I TALK TOO SLOW? YEAH COMMENTS. OKAY SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN, AND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN BUSY WITH HURRICANE RESTORATION AND ALL THAT, SO I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO COME TO ALL THE MEETINGS, BUT I TALKED TO SOME NEIGHBORS AND YOU KNOW OKAY. WANT IT EITHER. OKAY, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. I APPRECIATE IT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? COMMENTS. MORE QUESTIONS. CAN WE GET A RESPONSE? YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE. ABSOLUTELY SO , UM MR BROOKS WAS, YOU KNOW FANTASTIC FOR COMING IN TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, SO WE WENT THROUGH A FEW OF THE DECISIONS BEHIND WHY WE INCLUDED BOTH SIDES OF MLK. UM ONE OF WHICH IS THAT ONE OF THESE AREAS RIGHT HERE MENTIONED IS ALREADY WITHIN THE EAST STEWART FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. UM AND HE HAD CORRECTLY ARTICULATED WHAT WAS PROPOSED. UM AND THEN WHAT WAS BUILT, UM, WHAT WAS BUILT IS
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THAT THEY DID, IN FACT, CHANGE IT TO THE EAST STEWART FUTURE LAND USE. UM AND THEN THEY USED THE DENSITY PROVISIONS ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX. UM AND THAT WAS A LARGER SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ONE SITE, SO THAT'S HOW THEY CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION NOW. SOME OF THESE SMALLER SITES. THOSE SITES WERE TO REDEVELOP NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE SO SMALL, THEY DON'T HAVE THE DENSITY TO DO A DUPLEX. NOW IT IS FEASIBLE THAT SOME OF THESE THESE LARGER PARCEL RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW YOU TAKE IT. MULTIPLY IT BY, UM 17 DWELLING UNITS BREAK OR 15 UNITS. YOUR UH, BREAKER YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE DWELLING ON THAT. THAT LARGE SITE. UM SO THIS FUTURE LAND USE, UM DOESN'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON WHAT IS PERMITTED. RIGHT SO THE E. STEWART FUTURE LAND USE ESTABLISHES THAT IT IS A FUTURE LAND USE THAT'S WITHIN THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S WITHIN, UM, A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THE L. D. R S GET MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO. UM SO IN THIS DESIGNATION UP HERE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'VE OUTLINED IS THAT IT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR SAME MULTI FAMILY WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED FOR THE SMALL CASE OF A DUPLEX, UM, IN THAT AREA OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. NOW UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIQUE CONDITION WITH THE, UM WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S BUILT OUT. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THOSE PROPERTIES VULNERABLE TO SAY KNOCKING DOWN AND REBUILDING. WE COULD LOOK IN THE L. D. R S, FOR EXAMPLE OF PROVIDING A PROVISION FOR THE BOTH SIDES OF THAT STREET. UM WEST OF THE, UM, THE POLICE STATION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THOSE HOUSES ARE LESS VULNERABLE TO KNOCK DOWN. AND SAY A LOT SPLIT FOR A DUPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE ALONG THOSE LINES AND UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. UNDERSTOOD THAT LAST POINT, WOULD YOU YOU COULD PROVIDE WHAT KIND OF PROVISIONS IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE SO THAT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW. JUST A FUTURE LAND USE RIGHT. SO THIS JUST SETS UP THE BIG FRAMEWORK RIGHT BETWEEN, UM WHAT'S PROVIDED WHAT'S ALLOWED FOR AND WHAT ZONING CATEGORIES CAN BE APPLIED TO THAT LAND, RIGHT? BUT WITHIN THE ZONING.BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE STILL HERE TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS WITHIN THE L D. R S OR THE I'M SORRY. THE LDCS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THERE COULD BE A PROVISION FOOTNOTE FOR THIS SMALL SECTION OF 10TH STREET. SORRY. UM MLK THAT RESPECTS THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND MAINTAINS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME CHARACTER ON THAT PORTION OF THE STREET. AND I THINK THAT WOULD SATISFY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT MR BROOKS HAS WAS STILL ALLOWING US THE AREA TO HAVE THE E. STEWART DESIGNATION THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A CONSISTENT, UM, ZONING CATEGORY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. CONSISTENT UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE L D, R S WHAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THEM OR THE LDCS? IS THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME RULES. YOU WANT TO HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF ZONING FACING THE OTHER TYPE OF ZONING , AND THAT WAY YOU CAN HAVE THE MAXIMUM THE BEST RESULTS FOR THOSE THOROUGHFARES. STREET FRONTAGE IS AS THEY DEVELOPED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. JUST A QUICK ONE. BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE LOTS OVER THERE DON'T SUPPORT A DUPLEX. CORRECT LITTLE LOTS. THESE NOW HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED. AND SO THEY WOULDN'T SUPPORT A DUPLEX. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE DENSITY FOR THEM. A FEW OF THESE HAVE JUST ENOUGH, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT THAT THEY WOULD WHEN YOU APPLY THE DENSITY ALLOWED THAT YOU COULD THEORETICALLY LOT SPIT. TEAR DOWN, PULL A DUPLEX UP AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THOSE HOMES VULNERABLE TO THAT SO WE COULD PROVIDE A RESTRICTION TO DUPLEXES. FOR THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE LDCS NOT WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE. CORRECT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE FUTURE LAND USE. NO NO. WHAT IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT SUPPLIED YES, SUBJECT TO THE L D R C TRUCK, RIGHT? EXACTLY THE 1ST 1ST LAYER IS YOUR FUTURE LAND USE, THEN COMES IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE. WE WANT TO CREATE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN WHAT IS NOW IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING, SO THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN EAST STEWART SPECIFIC DESIGNATION, RIGHT. IT'S UM WHAT'S CALLED GENERAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL BUT RIGHT NOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE DOESN'T REFLECT THAT. SO THAT SITE WE WANT TO CORRECT THAT. AND THEN AGAIN IT WITH MR BROOKS COMMENTS. UM WE WANT TO RESPECT AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THOSE COUPLE OF HOUSES VULNERABLE TO KNOCK DOWN HERE OR READ ON UNINTENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT. UM SO WE CAN PROVIDE A RESTRICTION
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WITHIN THE LDCS SO THAT DUPLEXES AREN'T THERE? THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN. SO I HAVE A QUESTION.SO WITH THAT BE THAT DISCUSSION OF WITHIN THE LDCS THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER. WHAT'S SEVEN NOW? FOUR CORRECT, OKAY? YES. SO FIRST WE NEED TO THIS WOULD BE JUST THE LAND USE, BUT THEN, ADDING THAT LANGUAGE WOULD COME LATER. YES EXACTLY IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT US TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE IN ITEM. THANK YOU. 744 SO DOES ANYBODY E ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC FUTURE LAND USE MATH AMENDMENT. YEAH OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL. ONE SECOND. MA'AM YOU HAVE. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO COME HERE AND DO A COMMENT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. MY NAME IS LAURA JOBE AND I LIVE IN KINGSWOOD IN STUART. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING ALL OF THIS. MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL HOMES? THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN PARKING. BUT IF YOU START HAVING MULTIPLE DWELLINGS, I DON'T SEE THERE'S ANYWHERE FOR PARKING. SO THAT WOULD COME IN A SITE PLAN LATER ON, CORRECT MY CORRECT WITH THAT? YEAH. SO THAT WOULD COME. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE , THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN SUBMIT A SITE PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE PARKING PLAN ON THE SITE PLAN. OKAY, SO IT WOULD BE ON THE SITE. IT WOULDN'T BE TAKING ANY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT LIKE THIS IS. THIS IS JUST APPROVING THE USE OF THE LAND. SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY WITH A LIKE A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE PARKING BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE L D R. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE MOTION. REMEMBER MOTHER'S PERSON MARINE? YES. CHAIR BOARD MEMBER STRONG YES, KELLY? YES, ALRIGHT. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE SECOND.
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AND THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR TWO PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT. BOARD COMMENT AFTER WE HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS ON THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IN THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT. YES OKAY. SO THE AGAIN JESSICA SEYMOUR FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. UM THESE ARE THE FAMOUS LDCS THAT I ALLUDED TO A MINUTE AGO. UM AND THIS IS WHERE IF YOU LOOK THROUGH YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE EXISTING STANDARDS FOR THE EAST STEWART URBAN CODE HAVE BEEN STRUCK OUT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING OUR THE UPDATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE GOAL OF THE CODE IS TO CREATE BETTER PREDICTABILITY ON WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS CAN BUILD. WHAT UM, YOU CAN BUILD AND BETTER PREDICTABILITY FOR THOSE, UM TO THE APPLICANTS SO THAT, UM, THERE IS A CLEAR VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. THIS IS WHERE THEY LIVE, SO THEY'LL LIVE IN THE SAME LOCATION AS THE EXISTING CODES WITHIN THE SPECIAL ZONING CODES, DISTRICT. UM AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF PLAY OFF OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY HURT, UM, WHEN THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT READ CODES THEY PROVIDE SPECIAL, UM PROVISIONS AND SPECIAL ILLUSTRATED STAND STANDARDS SO THAT THERE'S MORE DETAIL. UM ON WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT OR COULD BE BUILT ON NEW REDEVELOPMENT OR INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UM I WANT TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED SINCE WE STARTED THIS. THESE PRESENTATIONS TO THE BOARDS, SO WE GOT SOME COMMENTS FROM THE CRV, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD. THEY WANTED US TO ADD SOME FIGURES ILLUSTRATING THE LANDSCAPE INSIGHT STANDARDS IN REFERENCE TO, UH, BUFFERS. UM THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT CHANGING THE FIGURE TEXT, WHICH WAS AN EASY ONE TO RESOLVE. UM ADDITIONAL MEETINGS BECAUSE WE MENTIONED SO WE'VE CONTINUED MEETING WITH INDIVIDUALS WHENEVER ASKED, UM AND WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE PURE REVIEW REQUEST AS WELL. WE'VE ALSO WORKSHOP WITH THE LOCAL AIE, WHICH IS THE UM AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD. THE L P A. THEY YOU GUYS WERE CAUGHT ME HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CIVIC OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THE CITY COMMISSION, UM ECHOED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM WHY THE 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE VERSUS 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS PROVIDED FOR, UM ANY STEWART WITH A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE CITY. SO WELL AGAIN, WE'LL TOUCH ON THOSE IS GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. UM ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THIS CODE[00:30:01]
THAT, UM, WE WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO IS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE ATTENTION TO COMMUNICATING THE PROCESS TO AN APPLICANT AND TO THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'VE SHOWN THAT THE CRB IS NOW REQUIRED BORDER PROOF APPEARANCE WHEN THERE'S A VARIANCE AND VARIANCE IS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO WHEN AN APPLICANT WANTS TO MAKE THE CASE FOR WHY THERE'S A CHANGE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE SETBACKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM AND THAT WOULD BE SEEN BY THE CRB, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD WHO IS HOUSED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO SEE IT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE GOALS OF THE CRB L C R I WE ALSO, UM WE'RE HEADED THE SAME RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES. UM AND THEN, UM, CONSISTENCY WITH THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WITH ZONING CHANGES RIGHT NOW, ZONING CHANGES ARE ONLY SEEN BY THE CRB , UM, TYPICALLY IN THE REST OF THE CITY. UM THE CR THE ZONING CHANGES WOULD BE SEEN BY YOU ALL, UM, WANTED CONSISTENCY IN THAT EVEN WITHIN THE C R. A UM, WE ALSO ADDED A PROVISION FOR WHEN PROJECTS ARE OF A CERTAIN SCALE ON THAT SCALE IS LARGER THAN WHAT WAS BUILT IN THAT COMMUNITY. TODAY THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAY REQUEST THAT A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP BE HELD BY THAT DEVELOPER OR APPLICANT.THIS IS THAT EXISTING ZONING MAP WE MENTIONED, SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA AND THIS AREA. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM THIS BRIGHT PINK THIS SON OF PRETTY SEAFOAM GREEN AND THIS THIS LIGHT GOLDEN ROD ARE THE UM ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO E. STEWART THEY ALREADY EXIST. AND WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE BRING IN THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INTENSE . I'M SORRY. 10TH STREET AND ON MLK, UM SO THAT THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT STANDARDS AS YOU COME THROUGH OR ENTER INTO THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THIS IS THAT PROPOSED REGULATING PLAN OR ZONING MAP THAT WOULD REPLACE IT. UM YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ALSO CITES CIVIC SITES, SO THERE'S ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT MEMORY FOR ANY APPLICANT, OR, UM, UM. PLANNING TOOL TO SHOW WHERE THOSE CIVIC SITES ARE AS WELL AS WERE IMPORTANT STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS LOCATED. WE HAVE ALSO, UM AGAIN, CREATING THAT CONSISTENCY. WE ALSO RESPONDED TO THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WANTED TO RESTRICT WHERE THIS GREEN COLOR IS. THIS IS THE GENERAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL THEY ARE PROPERTIES ON TAR POND SOUTH OF CHURCH STREET. THERE WAS A STRONG FEELING THAT THOSE PROPERTIES DIDN'T BELONG IN THAT DESIGNATION. SO UM, BEING THAT THERE WERE NO INVESTMENT BACKED . UM UM, EXPECTATIONS IN THAT AREA OF AN OFFICE COMING IN. WE FELT COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT CHANGE. AND THEN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS NOT SO MUCH IN THE COLORS BUT IN THE PERMITTED USES. SO IN EAST STEWART, BUSINESS MIXED USE OR B M U FOR SHORT, UM, THIS AREA, UM, DIDN'T ALLOW FOR DUPLEXES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES , AND IN FACT, IT DIDN'T ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL UNLESS IT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT. UM I THINK THIS WAS A WELL INTENDED POLICY TO HELP. UM BRING BACK SOME OF THE COMMERCE THAT WAS IN THIS AREA AT ONE TIME, BUT IT'S NOT MARKET SUPPORTED, AND IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. TODAY UM, RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE WANT, AND IT'S JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT VERY CLEARLY EXPRESSED THAT THEY SEE THEMSELVES AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEREFORE WE WANT TO REFLECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IN THE PERMITTED USES. SO NOW WE WILL THEN L. THESE ARE UPDATED LDCS ALL THIS AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USE OF SOMEONE TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THERE TODAY. UM WE ALSO INTRODUCE A THOROUGHFARE PLAN WHICH OUTLINES THE IMPORTANCE THE STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GIVES AN INDICATION OF THE EXPECTATIONS ON THOSE STREETS AS FAR AS SERVICES AND CIRCULATION. THE LIGHT BLUE OR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT, UM, HAVE VERY SLOW SPEEDS. THEY'RE VERY NARROW. THEY'RE ONLY 40 FT RIGHT OF WAYS TYPICALLY. UM AND LATER ON IN THE LDCS, THERE'S EXAMPLES OF THOSE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS THAT CAN BE TO BE USED AS A TOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR APPLICANTS AND FOR THE C R A AS A WAY OF LOOKING AT HOW IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE. THERE IS ALSO IMPORTANT RECOMMENDED CONNECTIONS THAT ARE INDICATED ON THIS MAP, AND THEY HELPED TO AGAIN ALIGN EXPECTATIONS OF WHERE, UM IMPORTANT CONNECTIONS CAN BE MADE. THOSE CONNECTIONS CAN BE ALLEYS. THEY CAN BE SHARED USE PATHS THEY COULD BE BROADWAY'S. UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT CONNECTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S DESIRED. IT'S COMMUNICATED IN THIS THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WILL HELP TO OVERTIME ADDRESS THE LONG BLOCK CONDITIONS WE HAVE,
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UH TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH OF E. STEWART. UM WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN DEVELOPING THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THE CODE , UM TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SETBACKS AND PARKING STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE RATIONAL TO WHAT THE CONTEXT IS IN THE SITE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, UM OR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COTTAGES IN DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS ON A TYPICAL LOT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR WHAT PUBLIC WORKSHOPS IS THAT 80 US OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE UNIT TYPE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME FABRIC THAT IS THERE AND ALLOWS FOR THAT, UM, EXTRA UNIT THAT YOU KNOW, A COLLEGE STUDENT CAN BE LIVING IN A ELDERLY PARENT COULD BE LIVING IN OR IT COULD BE A SMALL UM, YOU KNOW, RENTAL UNIT IS PART OF A, UM INCOME GENERATOR FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER. UM WE'RE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE AID EU PROVISIONS. AND THAT WE WANT IT TO BE SEAMLESS WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE FOOTPRINT SIZE OF AN A D. YOU THERE'S A LIMITATION THAT THERE MUST BE A PRIMARY OWNER ON THE ON THE SITE IN ORDER FOR IT TO, UM BA LEASED OUT IF THERE IF THERE'S A RENTAL UNITS, THERE HAS TO BE A PRIMARY OWNER ON THAT SITE. UM AND THEN WE ALSO WITH MRS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE TODAY. IN THE WORLD OF TRYING TO, UM ON MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERY CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS ON HOW THESE 80 US COME INTO COMMUNITIES. WE WANT TO, UM, JUST ATTACH THEM TO THE OR PROVIDE THAT THEY'RE AN OPTION FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ONLY, UM, WITHIN YOUR PACKET. I BELIEVE IT IS TEMP TOWNHOUSES AS WELL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CARRY FORWARD WITH JUST SINGLE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM AROUND THROUGH THESE NUMBERS QUICKLY. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND SLOW ME DOWN. UM AGAIN, THE SETBACKS WERE ADJUSTED SO THAT WE CAN ALLOW FOR THE 80 US AND THE REAR. UM AND THEN ALSO REFLECT THE HISTORIC FABRIC. I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO EAST STEWART AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLDER COTTAGES, AND THIS IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT'S OLDER THAN MOST PARTS OF THE CITY. IN FACT, IT PREDATES THE CITY AND ITS ITS CREATION. UM THE HOUSE IS A TIME ARE MUCH CLOSER TO THE STREET, 20 FT. SETBACKS ON A 40 FT WIDE LOT ARE REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE TO USING THE SITE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. SO WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WE TOOK A LOOK AT THOSE SETBACKS AND ARE RECOMMENDING A BILL TO ZONE OF 10 TO 20 FT. IN THE FRONT. UM AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, SIMPLIFYING SOME OF THOSE SETBACKS SO THAT THEY'RE EASIER, UM, TO IMPLEMENT AND ACHIEVE WITH, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THE 80 YOU OPTIONS? UM IN THE G R O SIMILAR PROCESS AND SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE G R O. SO IF I GO BACK THIS, THE SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX HAD A DENSITY OF 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE EAST STEWART FUTURE LAND USE OF ALLOWS FOR 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. WHEN YOU GO INTO THE G R O, WHICH IS GENERAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL SO IT ALLOWS FOR LOW IMPACT COMMERCIAL AGAIN SMALL OFFICES IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANY HIGH VOLUME COMMERCIAL USES, UM AND IT ALLOWS FOR MULTI FAMILY THAT'S 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS REFLECTING WHAT'S IN THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO WE BROUGHT THAT FROM 15 TO 17 SO HARD TO FOCUS WHEN THERE'S LIKE, LOTS GOING ON . IF THAT, YEAH, IT'S JUST A LOT OF DENSE INFORMATION. OKAY UM AND THEN THE SAME IS TRUE OF THE B M U, WHICH IS REALLY YOUR MAIN STREET OR THE CLOSEST THING THAT YOU HAVE TWO MAIN STREET WITHIN EAST STEWART. AND THAT IS WHERE AGAIN YOU HAVE SOME EXISTING BUSINESSES TODAY, AND THOSE ARE ALLOWED TO PERMIT GOING FORWARD . UM WE BROUGHT THE 15 DWELLING UNITS TO THE 17 DWELLING UNITS THERE, WHICH IS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION THERE. UM WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE NOTE AND THIS IS TRUE OF THE G R O. AND THE B M YOU RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT ALLOW FOR THESE, UM, DISTRICTS TO GO UP TO FOUR STORIES. UM THAT'S A PRETTY INTENSE BUILDING SCALE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM SO BEING CAREFUL OF NOT CREATING A, UM, ANYTHING THAT REMOVES ANYONE'S DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, BUT ALSO WANTING TO BE SURE THAT ANY PROPOSALS COME FORWARD ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.UM WE PUT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE FOURTH STORY HIKE CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED THROUGH A P U D AND IT REQUIRES THAT COMMUNITY WORKSHOP AND OUTREACH THAT WAS DESCRIBED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
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PRESENTATION. SO THERE'S A UM, AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF OUTREACH FOR THAT, UM THAT SCALE OF THE PROJECT. UM TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT 15 DWELLING UNITS . TAKE CARE VERSUS 17 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF LOTS. THIS IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS ON THE DENSITY OF THE OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THOSE EXISTING PLANTED LOTS OF RECORD. UM THERE'S NO DENSITY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 15 AND 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. WHERE DOES MAKE SOME IMPACTS IS WHEN YOU GET TO SOME OF THE LARGER SITES, SO THE LARGEST SITE WITHIN E. STEWART IS 4.7 ACRES. UM AND SO YOU CAN SEE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF NINE UNITS. UM AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE LESS AS FAR BUT HE IS A IMPACTFUL NUMBER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEGREE OF AFFORDABILITY, SO, UM, THAT MIGHT BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAKING A DEVELOPER PULLED THE TRIGGER ON, INCLUDING A LITTLE MORE, UM, AFFORDABILITY OR A FEW SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS WITHIN A PROJECT. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT 17 WHILE UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR. IN THOSE DISTRICTS. THE FRONTAGE TYPES.THIS IS KEY TO THE LDC RECOMMENDATIONS. UM YOU'LL SEE ILLUSTRATED THE TYPES OF FRONTAGE TYPES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO AGAIN, THESE ARE TRIGGERED BY SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT. NEW DEVELOPMENTS. SUBSTANTIAL UM, REDEVELOPMENT. I'M SORRY. WE'RE RENOVATION. SO THESE ARE SHOULD SOME OF THEM CAN BE PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY. RIGHT? WE KNOW WHAT A PORCHES WE HAVE SOME SOME CONCEPTS OF WHAT A SHOW UP FRONT IS, UM AND THESE WOULD BE REQUIRED ON THE FRONT OF EACH BUILDING. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT HELPS TO ELEVATE THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE STILL REFLECTING THAT HISTORIC CHARACTER. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT THE IN THE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX DISTRICT, UM YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE EITHER APPROACH OR A STOOP AND THESE ARE DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA THAT ARE APPLIED. UM AND DETAILS WITHIN THEM. I'M HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM THERE WITH THE AI A.
THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF BEING 18 INCHES ABOVE NATURAL GRADE. UM, SO WE HAVE REVISED THOSE STANDARDS SO THAT IT REFLECTS CROWN OF ROAD, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING STANDARDS ARE WE DO RECOMMEND STRUCTURES CONSIDERING GOING A LITTLE HIGHER BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF, UM COMMUNITY BENEFIT, RESILIENCY AND A DEGREE OF PRIVACY FOR THOSE INHABITANTS . WHEN YOU'RE UP OFF THE GROUND A LITTLE BIT. YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLES OF THIS IN OUR OWN DOWNTOWN. WHERE IF YOU'RE JUST A COUPLE OF YOU, YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF STEPS OFF OF THE SIDEWALK LEVEL. AND YOU HAVE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR SIGN LINE OF SIGHT TO SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, SITTING AT THEIR DINING ROOM TABLE. UM IT GIVES YOU LIKE A DEGREE OF PRIVACY AND AN ABILITY TO HAVE EYES ON THE STREET. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLEAR THERE . UM, BUT IT'S THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION. LET'S GO ABOVE THE CROWN OF ROAD FOR THAT. UM WE ALSO ILLUSTRATE BUILDING TYPES AGAIN. THIS IS A TOOL FOR STAFF AND FOR APPLICANTS TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT'S COMING FORWARD. UM AND THEY PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF HOW PARKING CAN BE MANAGED, UM, HOW FOOTPRINT SIZE CAN BE MANAGED AND HOW THOSE FRONTAGE TYPES CAN BE INCORPORATED. HERE IS THE GRAPHIC THAT WE HONORED TO AGAIN ILLUSTRATE LANDSCAPE AND PRIVACY BUFFERS AND WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRED. THERE ARE, YOU KNOW OPTIONS WITHIN 10 FT AND FIVE FT. FOUR UM, PRIVACY BUFFERS BETWEEN DIFFERENT, UM, USES PARTICULARLY, UH, VEHICULAR USES RIGHT IF YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT HOW THOSE ARE SCREENED. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT IT WAS CIVIC OPEN SPACE, THEN, RIGHT. IT'S CALLED NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE THEN AND NOW AND IT IS NOT REQUIRED OF ANY PROJECTS BASED OFF OF THEIR SIZE. IT IS AN OPTION. IT'S STILL THERE WITHIN THE CODE, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE, UM YOU WHEN MEETING OF THE CORNER OF A BUILDING, YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DO A CIVIC AND I'M SORRY TO OPEN NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE IN LIEU OF BRINGING YOUR BUILDING TO THE CORNER. UM WHICH IS REQUIRED WHEN YOU'RE AT IT, AND IT MADE THEIR UNFAIR, RIGHT. UM AND AGAIN, IT'S HERE AS A TOOL FOR STAFF FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH APPLICANTS WHO MAY BE DOING SOMETHING OF A LARGER SIZE SO THAT THEY HAVE THIS KIND OF, UM , ILLUSTRATION SO THEY CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ONE. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST I CAN'T SEE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER BUILDING A PLAYGROUND. AND ACCEPTING THAT LIABILITY. SO ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, SO I'LL GO BACK TO THIS NEXT STEP, YOU
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KNOW. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF THE REALM OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THE, UM THE DIXIE LANE, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS IT IS NOT ACTUALLY, UM, CITY PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S A PART OF THE THAT PROPERTY OWNER IS PART OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THERE. UM AND THEY MANAGED THAT LIABILITY. THE VERY SIMPLE WAY OF MANAGING THAT LIABILITY IS IF YOU DEDICATE THE LAND AND YOU CAN STILL USE THAT DENSITY PROVISIONS AS PART OF YOUR PROJECT AGAIN, IT'S NOT BEING REQUIRED OF ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THESE LDCS FOR EAST STEWART. IT'S THERE AS A AS AN OPTION. UM AND A TOOL FOR EVERYONE FOR DISCUSSION. UM THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHERE THIS HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, UM WITHIN OUR OWN DOWNTOWN, AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION FOR THE CREEK AS WELL. HAS THE CORNER PROPERTY THERE. THE CORNER OF THAT PROPERTY IS CIVIC OPEN SPACES ABOUT 5% YOU'LL SEE IT IN COLORADO. WE'RE BUILDING STEP BACK MORE THAN THE PROPERTY LINE. AND NOW THAT SIDEWALK THAT LEADS TO THAT BUSINESS, SO IT'S OPEN SPACE THAT LEADING TO THEIR BUSINESS, SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND.I APPRECIATE THAT ONE THING THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE, THERE'S A DISCUSSION OF THAT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, OPEN SPACE, IT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS YOUR IF IT'S PERVIOUS, IT DOESN'T COUNT IN YOUR IMPERVIOUS CALCULATION. WHY WOULD THAT NOT? COUNT AS PART OF YEAH, IF IT'S PERVIOUS. IF IT'S IF IT'S PERVIOUS. IT CAN COUNT TOWARDS YOUR PERVIOUS.
OKAY THEN MAYBE IT'S JUST THE LANGUAGE. OKAY, SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT THAT LANGUAGE. NO, ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU UTILIZE IF IT'S UTILIZES THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT OR PERVIOUS SURFACES THAN IT WOULD COUNT TOWARDS YOUR PREVIOUS COVERAGE. ABSOLUTELY. UH SO AS I WAS JUST SAYING, IT'S BEEN REMOVED. IT'S THERE FOR RECOMMENDATION. UM AND IT CAN BE REFERRED TO AS A DESIGN OBJECTIVE FOR CONDITIONAL USES. UM SO IT'S A TOOL FOR APPLICANTS AND STAFF. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THIS CODE, UM IT'S THERE. UM WE MENTIONED BRIEFLY THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO BAKED INTO THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS , WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, STREETS AND SHARED WALKWAYS. CIVIC OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS NOW KNOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, OPEN SPACE, THE PARKING LOT STANDARDS AND LAKE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS ARE STANDARDS THAT CALLBACK TO IMPLEMENT LOW IMPACT STRATEGIES , INCLUDING THREE BOXES AND PERMEABLE SURFACES, UM, WHEREVER THERE'S CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN THEIR APPLICABLE TO THAT KIND OF A PROJECT ABOUT THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, YES. THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO COMES IN. WITH A NEW DEVELOPMENT HE HAS HAS TO CONFORM TO THE THOROUGHFARE CENTERS. THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND HIM. DON'T BECAUSE THEIR EXISTING SO IT'S FEEL LIKE FOR A PROPERTY OWNER TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. MAYBE A LITTLE OVER THEIR HEAD VERSUS THE CITY. RIGHT SO THERE'S ESPECIALLY IN EAST STEWART. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SO ONE IS A WHOLESALE REDEVELOPMENT AND THERE OF ONE OF THESE LARGER SITES, LET'S SAY, AND THEY CREATE A NEW ROAD OR A THOROUGHFARE OR SHARED USE PATH . IN THAT CASE, ABSOLUTELY. THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THESE THOROUGHFARES STANDARDS AND BRINGING UP THAT TO THIS THIS LEVEL OF STANDARD RIGHT? UM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREMENTAL INFILL, UM THERE'S GOT TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING IT . RIGHT SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH STAFF ON HOW TO FINE TUNE THAT SHARP PEN. UM ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO SEE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A 40 FT LOT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT. IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT A SIDEWALK WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED JUST IN THAT ONE SPACE, RIGHT? AND IF YOU ARE, UM LET'S SAY YOU'RE DOING A SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION AND IN THE SENSE THAT YOU'RE ADDING A PORCH TO YOUR FRONT BUILDING IN THE FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING. ABSOLUTELY WE WANT YOU TO IMPLEMENT AS MUCH OF THIS POLICY YOU CAN WITHIN THAT PORCH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK. YOU KNOW, CONTRACTOR COMING OUT TO DO THAT ASPECT OF THE CODES THAT MAY NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE APPLICATION OF THE THOROUGHFARE STANDARDS, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SHARPENING OF THE LANGUAGE, SO THAT COMES ACROSS A LITTLE CLEARER. UH THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT THAT I ATTENDED. AND AS IN MANY OF THE CITY STAFF, AND I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE THERE. UM, I LEARNED A LOT OF REALLY GREAT THINGS. AND SO IT WAS. EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO ADD SOME OF THAT KNOWLEDGE INTO THE CODE. UM AS PANA MENTIONED, WE ARE COMING BACK WITH A VISION UPDATE. SO ANY STEWART THERE WAS A 2000 TO SHARE IT DONE WITH A MASTER PLAN. UM THIS WORK HAS ALL BEEN GOING INTO BOTH THE LDC UPDATE AND AN UPDATE OF THAT.
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THAT VISION PLAN THE LAST 20 YEARS. THINGS HAVE CHANGED, SO THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU GUYS AT A LATER DATE. UM TOP THREE TAKEAWAYS, UM, FOR THE LDC IN EAST STEWART, UM, ALLOWING THE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE BM YOU THE BIG BUSINESS. MIXED USE, UM , DISTRICT. I THINK THAT'S A AN IMPORTANT VERY IMPORTANT CHANGE WITHIN THE LDCS, REFLECTING THE LOT SIZES AND THE HISTORIC BUILDING SETBACKS. UM AND THEN ALSO THOSE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OF A MUCH LARGER SCALE. UM, THAN ANYTHING THAT'S YOU KNOW, IN THOSE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SMALL MISSING LITTLE PROJECTS THAT EXIST THERE TODAY.HERE AGAIN IS THE REMINDER ON WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THAT TIMELINE AND I HOPE THAT TODAY WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR BOTH OF THESE MOTIONS FOR THE ZONING MATH, AS WELL AS THE FORM BASED LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU MENTIONED A DUS, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA. THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR GONNA APPRECIATE THE PARKING OKAY, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO START PARKING ON THE EDGE OF THE STREET. WHAT'S SO I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THAT. SO YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. SO, UM 11 ASPECT OF THAT IS THE 80 YOU IF YOU WERE BUILDING AN A D YOU WANT YOU COME IN. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I WANT TO BUILD AN A D U UM THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THAT. SO RIGHT NOW IN EAST STEWART TODAY, THEY ONLY REQUIRE THAT THE CODE ONLY RELY REQUIRES ONE PARKING SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT. SO AGAIN, ADDING THAT 2ND 80, YOU WOULD MEAN THAT YOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BECOME TOO SO THAT'S ONE ASPECT YOU'D HAVE TO SHOW ON YOUR SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING FOR THAT PARKING UM AND THEN IN THE MASTER PLAN, AND THIS THIS GOES MORE TO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL COME FROM THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE FOR MORE ON STREET PARKING, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CHURCHES AND COMMUNITY PARKS WITHIN THE AREA . YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PEAK DEMANDS THAT NEED TO BE MET WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT COULD BE A WAY OF MITIGATING THAT. IT'S NOT FULLY ADDRESSED WITHIN. YOU KNOW HOW THAT'S IMPLEMENTED IN THIS CODE, BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT WHAT INDIVIDUAL APPLICANTS CAN DO. BUT AS A CITY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A GOAL. YEAH, THAT'S THE I JUST KNOW I SOMETHING THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IT. IT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT'S JUST AND SMALL LOTS. THAT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO ONE SO MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS, ARE THE 80 YOU IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON THAT ZONING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THE DUPLEX. IT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX. YES. BUT ITS OWNER WOULD HAVE TO BE LIVING IN ONE OF THE ABSOLUTELY YES. SO YOU COULD HAVE A DUPLEX AND HAVE NO NO, NO . NO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME DETACHED RIGHT. SO THAT WAS DETACHED. AND UM AND, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED NOW THE OWNER COULD OCCUPY THE 80 YOU, UM AND THEN THEY COULD RENT OUT THE HOME. YOU KNOW THAT THAT COULD SEE AN S SCENARIO WHERE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK OUT AS SOME OF THE AGES IN PLACE. UM AND THEIR THEIR FAMILY, THEIR KIDS AND THEIR GRANDKIDS END UP LIVING IN THE MAIN HOUSE. UM BUT IT HAS TO BE OWNER ROCKY, ONE OF THOSE STRUCTURES ET OWNER OCCUPIED IF THEY'RE NOT FAMILY. IF THEY'RE NOT RELATED. BUT IT BECOMES VIRTUALLY LIKE A DUPLEX. THEY WOULD COULD RENT THEM SEPARATELY WITH TWO M AND ONE COULD BE RENTED. YES THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE AS THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP AND STUFF AROUND THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, UH, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT FURTHER RESTRICTIONS. REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, NOT JUST THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT AND ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A DUPLEX AND AN 80 US THAT LIMITATION ON THE SIZE, RIGHT SO YOU CAN ONLY HAVE YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY BASED OFF OF A TWO CAR GARAGE APARTMENT ABOVE A TWO CAR GARAGE. UM AND AGAIN, IT'S A THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT. UNLIKE GOING WHERE FOLKS MAY BE UNRELATED. THAT DOESN'T YOU KNOW IN THE REST OF THE CITY? THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD. UM BUT BECAUSE THESE COULD BE RENTED. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE STANDARDS THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY. THAT'S MY CONCERN. THERE IS THAT. IN CERTAIN AREAS. WE GOT TALKING TO THE MICROBE NUMBER MATTERS. COULD YOU TALK INTO THE MIKE WORKING? OH, YOU GOTTA PUT IT ON THE RECORD. YEAH, LOOK. TRY TO AVOID THAT, BUT THAT THAT'S UH, THAT WAS MY CONCERN ON THAT. OKAY SO THIS IS RELATED TO THE CREEK? UM LDC, BUT IT COULD APPLY HERE, SO I JUST SAW A BUSINESS OWNER EXISTING BUSINESS. THEY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT EXISTING BUSINESS. THE UNDER THE SECTION , 3401 PROCEDURE AND PROCESS INTENT. IT DISCUSSES SUBSTANTIAT
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WOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THERE ARE THERE ARE I KNOW OF ONE INSTANCE WHERE, IF THIS GUY DOESN'T ADDITION AND THEN HE HAS TO REDO HIS FACADE.HE WON'T HAVE THE SETBACKS BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESS HE HAS RIGHT. SO UM, SUBSTANCE, THOSE TERMS? UM THOSE TERMS THAT ARE ITALICIZED AND BOLDER, DEFINED TERMS ALREADY WITHIN THE CODE, SO THERE'S A DEFINITION SECTION. YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CODE, AND WE ARE USING THOSE DEFINITIONS. SO THOSE ARE NOT, UM THERE. THERE'S METRICS TIED TO THOSE DEFINITIONS, SO IT'S NOT 50% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE, RIGHT? RIGHT AND IT DOES. YOU KNOW THERE'S THAT YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW THE PULLING OUT OF MANY THE CUMULATIVE NATURE TOO. SO YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW? 50 YOU KNOW 2 49 AND THEN TO 49.9, RIGHT? BUT FOR INSTANCE, THIS GENTLEMAN IF HE DOES THIS, AND IT TRIGGERS THAT HE WOULD. THEN HE COULDN'T HE COULD STILL GET APPROVAL FOR IT. BUT IN THIS CASE WHERE HE NOW HAS TO CHANGE THE FACADE OF HIS BUILDING IT WOULD NOT ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT ADDITION. SO I'M NOT SURE I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF REALLY WHAT THE WORK IS. THAT'S BEING ENTAILED. YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU AGAIN TALKING ABOUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EXAMPLE AND I WANT TO ADD A PORCH AND IN ADDITION TO THE REAR, RIGHT, UM, YOU'VE GOT AN EXISTING BUILDING. THAT'S 25 FT. BACK FROM WHAT IS TODAY WE'RE CALLING THE BILL TO ZONE. NO ONE'S EXPECTING THAT APPLICANT TO MOVE THEIR BUILDING. AND FORWARD, BUT WHEN YOU ADD THE PORCH, IT'S GONNA YOU KNOW. THERE WOULD BE REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT THAT NEW PORCH WOULD HAVE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE PORCH FRONTAGE TYPE, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THE FRENCH PORCHES TYPE HAS A MINIMUM DEPTH SO THAT THAT PORCHES HABITABLE SO THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A TEENY TINY PHOTO PORCH, RIGHT? UM THE ADDITION YOU KNOW AGAIN IF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY WITHIN THAT, UM, SAVE FIVE FT SETBACK. UM YOU KNOW AGAIN, NO ONE CAN EXPECT THAT PERSON TO PICK UP THE BUILDING AND MOVE IT. SO THE ADDITION YOU KNOW, MAY NEED TO ALIGN WITH THAT EXISTING BUILDING I SO IT'S TRICKY WITH ADDITIONAL EXISTING BUILDINGS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND VERY SPECIFIC CITY THAT'S REQUIRED RIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK HE WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. YVETTE E. IN THAT CASE, WHERE I MEAN THAT THAT'S TRUE OF EVERY CODE RIGHT CODES CAN'T PREDICT EVERY EXAMPLE AND EVERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT. UM AGAIN. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO ADDRESS WITH THE CODE BY SHOWING PICTURES AND CHARTS AND ILLUSTRATIONS IN THIS WHICH ARE NOT CONVENTIONAL, TOO. YOU KNOW THE CODE TODAY. UM RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS THINGS LIKE PORCHES ARE, YOU KNOW OUT OF PORCH, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE, AND YOU KNOW, NATURALLY IF THE BUILDING IS ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA RAISE IT UP, YOU KNOW, TO MEET SOME SOME STANDARD ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING OFF OF THE CROWN OF ROAD IF ITS EXISTING RIGHT DISCUSSION ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE THAT'S FACADE RIGHT VARIANTS. PROCESS WHICH ALREADY EXISTS TODAY WOULD BE PART OF THAT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO IF YOU COULD YOU CLICK BACK BECAUSE IN REGARDS TO THE FACADES, IT SEEMED LIKE IF YOU WERE DOING THERE WAS A OPTIONS FOR COMMERCIAL BUT THEN THE RESIDENTIAL. WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? BESIDES THE PORCH RIGHT WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL? IT'S A PORTRAIT STOOP. OKAY AND SO YOU KNOW, THE SMALLEST STRUCTURE ASTUTE, MAYBE, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE. A STOOP IS A SMALLER FRONTAGE TYPE THAN A PORCH. SO YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE MORE ECONOMICAL TO IN SOME CASES . UM PORCHES ARE DESIRABLE, USABLE SPACE, THOUGH, AND THEY BENEFIT COMMUNITIES, SO THAT'S INCLUDED AS WELL. UM WITHIN THE ENTIRE, UM, DISTRICT PORCHES AND STOOPS ARE ACCEPTABLE FRONTAGE TYPES AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE AREAS THAT ARE MORE COMMERCIAL. UM AS YOU SEE, THE STOREFRONT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE. UM BUT THE STOREFRONT , FOR EXAMPLE, IS NOT APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE GR. OH RIGHT. THAT'S THE GENERAL OFFICE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH COMPRISES MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND HIS STOREFRONT IS JUST TOO COMMERCIAL FOR A DISTRICT THAT REALLY IS MORE OF A OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT UM, AND BUT IN THAT CASE YOU COULD PROVIDE, UM YOU KNOW A FORECOURT OR BRACKETED BALCONY OR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE, UM, GIVES THE INDICATION OF SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE COMMERCIAL, OR MAYBE A SMALL SCALE, MULTI FAMILY. THE QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION
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ABOUT THE. PAPER REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE KIND OF MINIMIZED A LITTLE BIT. UM HOW MUCH OF THE STEWART IS IN WHAT FLOOD ZONE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT RIGHT PROPERTY, RIGHT? UM MOST EASTWARD IS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE. SO THAT'S SOME SUMMARY ASSURANCE THERE. UM, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, AS. AS THINGS GET BUILT OUT, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT THIS CONDITION RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE A RETAINING WALL BUILDING UP, UM, A STRUCTURE AND THEN AS EVEN INSIGNIFICANT RAIN COMES, IT WASHES AWAY ONTO YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S BESIDES THE FACT THAT ELEVATING YOUR BUILDING GIVES YOU A DEGREE OF, UM YOU KNOW, PRIVACY KNIVES ON THE STREET, AND IT CREATES A NICE URBAN FORM. IT HAS THESE, UM, WATER IMPACTS AS WELL. UM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EXAMPLES IN STUART WHERE YOU KNOW THE COLD UPDATED TO SAY YOU NEEDED TO BE AN 18 INCHES ABOVE THE CROWN OF ROAD. BUT THEN YOUR NEIGHBORING STRUCTURES ARE STILL BELOW THAT CROWN OF ROAD. UM THIS CONDITION DOES HAPPEN IN EAST STEWART, WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, PROPERTIES WHERE THEIR GROUND RIGHT NOW IS LOWER THAN THE CROWN OF ROAD. SO WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES COME IF THEY EVER REDEVELOPED, UM, WHERE THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY WILL NEED TO BE UP A LITTLE BIT FROM THE STREET. RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING AGAIN. ROUNDABOUT, MAYBE 18 TO 24 INCHES. SO THAT THEY CAN BE ABOVE THAT CROWN OF ROW WHICH PROTECTS THEM FROM LOCAL LAND. YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY STORMS THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? UM THE CITY ALREADY PROVIDED FOR WITHIN THEIR THEIR STORMWATER SECTION THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT CONDITION THAT I SHOWED HERE WHERE THEY'VE RAISED THE ENTIRE SITE TO MEET THAT 18 INCHES AND THAT THEY MUST DO IT WITH STEM WALLS, EXTENDED FOOTERS OR OTHER FOUNDATION TYPES APPROVED WITH THE BUILDING. MOMENT. SO AGAIN FOR E. STEWART UM, WE FELT REALLY COMFORTABLE TAKING A LOOK AT OKAY. FINE MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT'S NOT ABOVE NATURAL GRADE. MAYBE IT'S ABOVE CROWN OF ROAD AND, FRANKLY, FOR MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM IT'S THE SAME RESULT. THERE'S A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES. UM, ACTUALLY ON AND OKAY THAT ARE ALREADY 18 INCHES ABOVE THE CROWN OF ROAD THERE, YOU KNOW, 19 FIFTIES 19 SIXTIES CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY BROUGHT IN ALL THE FILM, AND THEY BROUGHT HIM UP HIGH AND SO THOSE WOULD ALREADY BE MEETING THAT STANDARD, BUT AGAIN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY REALLY IS JUST IT'S AND RESULTS IN THE SAME STANDARD, YOU HAVE TO COME UP OFF THE GROUND. AND PART OF IT, AND THIS KIND OF DRIVES ME NUTS IN THE CITY. I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE BUILDERS WHO WILL BUILD THEIR PROJECT AND THEN DRAIN OFF JUST LIKE THAT PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT HOUSE SHOULD SHOW THE DRAINAGE PLAN THAT SHOWS ARE KEEPING THE WATER ON THEIR PROPERTY, RIGHT. THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB ABOUT IT, BUT I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE INSTANCES WHERE IT'S NOT HAPPENING. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU REMEMBER IT'S PROBABLY NOT A SITE PLAN ISSUE. IT'S A BUILDING ISSUE, SO THEY NEED TO COME IN WITH PROBABLY LAYOUT FOR THE BUILDING. UM, PRELIMINARY ALONG WITH THE SITE PLAN. AND THEN, THEREFORE THE BUILDING'S GOT AN ELEVATION PLAN. SITE PLANS GOT AN ELEVATION AND THEN IT COMES VERY EASILY. THEY MAY HAVE COME UPON A STEM WALL OR SOMETHING. BUT IF YOU BRING THE CYCLONE IN WITH THE BUILDING PRELIMINARY PLANS YEAH, AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE A REASONABLE ESTIMATE, AND IT'S EASY FOR STAFF AND SAY EITHER YOU GOT TO DO SOMETHING, OR YOU BUILDING UP THE BUILDING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FINE. SO WITHIN THESE LDCS AGAIN BECAUSE OF THOSE ILLUSTRATIONS SHOWING STEPS AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S SOME. THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT HARKENS BACK TO THAT PROVISION WITHIN THE SECTION SIX, UM, POINT OH, THREE. I HEADED UP A MINUTE AGO. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT RIGHT NOW IS NOT IN THE E STEWART CODE. WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT AS A BUILDER, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY MOST BUILDERS. MOST ARCHITECTS, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ZONING CODE.RIGHT THEY DON'T WANT TO DIG INTO THESE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CODE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PROVISION LIKE THAT THAT ALREADY EXIST. UM THAT HAVE STANDARDS TO THEM. WE REFERENCE THOSE, AND SO THAT AGAIN, IT GETS MORE OF THAT INFORMATION GETS TO THE APPLICANT FASTER SO THAT THERE'S NOT THIS SURPRISED AT THE END OF THEIR PROCESS. BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY TO YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE AT THE END OF THEIR AT THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. THEY THINK THEY'RE DONE TO FIND OUT. MY ENTIRE FOUNDATION IS NOT DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY FOR THE SITE, SO UM, WE WANT TO AVOID THAT. AND THEN I HAD ONE OTHER THING ON THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES . I NOTICED THEY ARE DIFFERENT
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THAN THE CITY STANDARD. YES IS FINE WITH THAT. WE HAVE MET WITH UTILITIES. YES, AND FOUND AGAIN . THESE ARE SMALL AREAS. THESE ARE GREAT PLACES SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE STANDARDS ARE BEING APPLIED AND SEE. UM WHAT MODIFICATIONS AGAIN? THIS IS AN URBAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S URBAN ADJACENT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S AT A DIFFERENT SCALE THAN THINGS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO WE WANT TO REFLECT THAT. ARE THEY STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL WISE STEEL. REDESIGNED IN THE COMMERCIAL. THEY HAVE THAT SPECIFICATION YET? THERE'S A THERE'S A, UM THERE'S A 10 BY 10 THAT MINIMUM SIZE FOR AN ENCLOSURE. UM, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING IS NOT REQUIRED AROUND THE EDGE. UM WITHIN THIS STANDARD, AND THEN THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION IS JUST THE BOLLARDS ARE AT THE REAR ONLY RATHER THAN AT THE SIDE AND THE REAR. UM AND AGAIN, IT'S REFLECTING THE SMALLER SCALE.COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR SMALLER SCALE, MULTI LIMITED TO THIS STRICTLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN IT'S SIMILAR WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT AS WELL. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT THEN, OKAY, BUT IT'S LIMITED TO THAT. IT'S NOT CHANGING. NOT CHANGING CITYWIDE. NO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. NOPE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO THIS? OKAY. ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? SO MOVEDE FAMILY ACTUALLY NOTE AND DO WE WANT THE FOOTAGE? THAT WAS THE ONE THING I WAS TELLING STREET RIGHT ST. IT'S THE SAME CONDITION AS MLK WITH THAT ARE ONE. FOR THOSE ARE HOUSING AUTHORITY. SOME OF THEM ARE SO YEAH. SO THIS THIS RIGHT HERE, MHM AND THEN HERE AND HERE. I WOULD HAVE THAT FOOTNOTE WITHIN THE MOTION. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHEN WE NEED THAT MORE DETAILED? IS THAT FOR JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THOSE LOTS. AND WHAT ABOUT THE 80? YOU? NO A, D U. S OR FOR THOSE SPECIFIC LOTS. YEAH I THINK THAT THAT THAT WAS MY OPINION THAT THE 80 YOU IF IT'S A DUPLEX ISSUE SHOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM THOSE LOTS AS WELL. I DO FEEL I'M I THINK THAT, UM, JUST FROM THE MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, UM IN E. STEWART IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WERE QUITE EXCITED ABOUT A D. U. S. UM PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF, YOU KNOW, EARNING A LITTLE BIT OF INCOME WITHOUT IMPACTING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING. THERE'S SUCH A HOUSING CRISIS, PARTICULARLY FOR THE E. STEWART COMMUNITY AT THAT, YOU KNOW THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THERE. IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD RESTRICT. I THINK IT WASN'T WASN'T IT EVEN DIDN'T COME FROM THE COMMUNITY. THIS IDEA OF A DUS CANNOT EXCUSE ME. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS THERE A WAY TO DO IT THAT PERHAPS YOU CAN HAVE AN ¥80 AN EXISTING HOUSE, BUT IF IT WAS TO BE TORN DOWN, YOU COULDN'T PUT A DUPLEX THERE.
COULD YOU DO THAT? WHAT ALREADY? IS THAT? RIGHT LIKE YOU CAN'T PUT AN IDEA ON A DUPE. YOU CAN'T PUT AN A TO YOU ON A DUPLEX. I THINK. WHAT UM, MEMBER MATTERS IS JUST POINTING OUT THAT MATTERS IS POINTING OUT THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE QUESTION OF HAVING TO DWELLING UNITS ON A SINGLE SITE AND, YEAH, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S 80 YOU IF IT'S A FAMILY YES, A MOTHER IN LAW, SO THE OWNER AND FAMILY RELATED THAT'S NOT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. OKAY, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA SET IT UP WHERE THE OWNER CAN RENT ONE AND EVEN RENT THE OTHER ONE. YOU'RE VIRTUALLY LOOKING AT A DUPLICATE RENTING ONE CAN ONLY RENT ONE. IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE HAD TO BE DWELL.
LETTER LIKE OWNER HAD TO LIVE IN THE DWELLING, RIGHT AND AT THE OTHER ONES ARE FAMILY. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE NEAR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN, BUT THEY CAN ADD A UH, EXTENSION TO THEIR EXISTING HOME. TO COMPLY WITH THE A. D U. I THINK THERE'S I KNOW AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UM THAT ARE SIMILAR TO E. STEWART AND WEST PALM. YOU KNOW THOSE A. D U. S ARE RENTED OUT AND IT'S IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEBODY HAS. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE LIKE YEAH, AND I'M NOT SAYING ABOUT ALL OF THESE STEWART. IT'S JUST A FEW OF THAT A FEW OF THOSE LOTS BACK UP TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. OKAY? NOT ALL OF EAST STEWART. RIGHT BUT IT'S MERELY A RECOMMENDATION. WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE CITY OF STEWART, RIGHT?
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WELL TODAY WOULD BE A MOTION GOING FORWARD. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE GOING TO THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IF THE FORD DOESN'T WANT TO SEND THAT WITH EMOTIONS AND WE NEED TO REDO THE MOTION AND TAKE IT OUT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. I THINK SO. I FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT MAKING THAT PROVISION FOR, UM EXCLUDING THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREAS WHERE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY DON'T WANT THAT, BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SETTLE WITH THE 80 YEARS PERSONALLY. NO I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE. I THINK EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? THEY GOT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEXT TO THEM, RIGHT? AND IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ONE TO DO IT, WE SHOULD ALLOW THE OTHER ONE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT SAME OPTION, TOO. YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? THE EXISTING ONES. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU. OKAY SO I FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND WHAT YOU HAD SUGGESTED, WAS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILIES AND ONLY THAT AREA PUT LANGUAGE TO RESTRICT. IS THAT WHAT WE HAD SUGGESTED IN THE LDC? RIGHT OKAY. DUPLEX RESTRICT FROM DUPLEX. BUT THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR AN ABC TO BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY. 80 EXCUSE ME, IDIOT. YOU ARE SUGGESTING WE PERHAPS DO NOT ALLOW THAT IN THAT AREA. OR UNLESS IT'S FULLY RESTRICTED. YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, YOU KNOW THE GOT MOTHER IN LAW DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT. A WITHIN THE CITY. YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD 80 US THAT ARE, I THINK IN MOST MOST DISTRICTS, YOU CAN BUILD AN 80 YOU THAT, UM IS FOR FAMILY OR RELATED, RIGHT? UM I'LL TELL YOU AN ADULT ITALY THEY GET RENTED OUT. YEAH OKAY. UM BUT, UM, YEAH , AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SPEAKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UM IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EXPLICIT, EXPRESSLY ALLOWED IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN THEN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE. UM CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING CAUGHT DOING THAT, WHEREAS IN SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOODS IT'S NOT LIKE I SAY, THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE WHERE YOU HAVE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW A REMODELING OF THE OTHER SIDE IN A WAY, OKAY. UH SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. IF WE WANT TO LET IT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILIES. ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE A USE THE ONES RIGHT NOW POCKET WITHIN OUR ONE? YES, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT JUST HAS TO BE OCCUPIED BY A FAMILY MEMBER RIGHT FAMILY MEMBER. THEY CAN BE RENTED OUT. TECHNICALLY, THEY CAN'T BE CHECKED IT OUT. RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WOULD CHANGE IT SO THEY COULD BE ABSOLUTELY YES, OK. BUT. SO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP SO MY PROPERTF YOU WOULD COME, AND WE WILL MAKE IT A OFFERING. PUBLIC COMMENT SORRY. BROOKS DU BOIS 19 WEEKS SOUTH EAST SIXTH STREET, SO I LIVE RIGHT WHERE THAT LITTLE KIND OF ANGLE IS RIGHT THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THOSE. MY 1951 HOUSE HAS A DETACHED TWO CAR GARAGE. MY MOTHER IN LAW LIVES AND SO YOU WERE SAYING IS THE PERSON WHO BROUGHT FORTH THE CONCERNS IN THE BEGINNING YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE 80 USE BEING ALLOWED. BUT JUST NOT THE DUPLEXES. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT I THINK IF WE JUST STICK WITH ONLY THE DUPLEX CONDITION WE CAN ELIMINATE THE 80 YOU ONE WAY YOU CAN REQUEST THE SINGLE METER ON THE HOME ONLY NOT PUT A METER ON THE APARTMENT. THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU CAN DO IN THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. ONE M PER PER PER UNIT OR UNITS. SO THEN YOU'RE NOT KIND OF SEPARATE BUILDINGS HERE GETTING ONE ELECTRIC SERVICE ONE ADDRESS, OKAY? THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.OKAY THANK YOU. SO WHAT MOTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE? WHAT WOULD THE BOARD LIKE FOR ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THE RESTRICTION OF THE DUPLEX, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RESTRICT THE IDEAS. AND FOR ME ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, PULL THAT OUT OF MY MOTION. ARE WE GOOD WITH THE MOTION NOW? YES AND UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SECOND I WILL. SECOND THAT MOTION TASTIC. WELL THERE'S TWO ORDINANCES, SO MAKE SURE WE GET A OKAY SO WELL ON THIS MOTION. INCLUDES ORDINANCE. 2499-20 TO 3 AND TO 507-20 TO 3 CORRECT. PRIVATELY. MY BOOK. 7 TO 7. YOU WANT TO CONFIRM THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT? THAT MOTION ACTUALLY SHOULD BE WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER TWO FIVE 7-2023 , WHICH IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT
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CODE AMENDMENT. OKAY, SO IT ONLY SHOULD BE WITH THAT ONE. EXACTLY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. BUT DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THESE TWO SEPARATELY? THAT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY THEN. NEXT YOU WOULD MAKE A CONNECTION FOR 24 99-2023 . OKAY SO RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP ORDINANCE NUMBER 2499-20 TO 3 AS IT EXISTS. IS THAT THE MIGRANT UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, OKAY, SO MOVED OKAY, SECOND. SECOND UH OR NO, YOU HAVE TO DO THE CALL. BY BOARD MEMBER MATHERS. YES REMEMBER STRONG? YES, VITALY? YES, PERSONALLY? YES. OKAY THAT'S THE FIRST MOTION THE SECOND MOTION YES, WHAT BOARD MEMBER MATHERS MADE AND IT'S REGARDING, UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER 257-20 TO 3. YES. HE MADE THE MOTION OF THE SECOND. SORRY IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN ADD SOMETHING THAT JUST TO VERIFY THAT WE CLARIFY THE NON PERVIOUS DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE IMPERVIOUS COMPANY ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OPEN SPACE THAT TO MY MOTION. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR PANEL IF YOU 25 0 7-2023, WHICH WAS FROM BOARD MEMBER MATTERS, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BY TALLY. I SECONDED THE FIRST ONE STRONG 99, OKAY? OKAY AND NOW WE CAN DO THE ROLL CALL. REMEMBER RIGHT, ALI? YES BOARD MEMBER MATTERS? YES, CHAIRPERSON LAUREN? YES, MEMBERS STRONG? YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT ONE'S DONE. NOW WE WILL GO TO NUMBER FIVE WAS ORIGINALLY NUMBER[3. THE CREEK DISTRICT - SMALL-SCALE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT]
THREE. THE CREASE DISTRICT. SMALL SCALE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OH, 2.20 TO 3 AND THIS ONE WILL BE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG DONE BY ITSELF CORRECT AND THE OTHER TWO WILL BE COMBINED. CORRECT, CORRECT? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M STILL JESSICA SEYMOUR FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. UM SO HERE THE CREEK DISTRICT WAS FOR A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND WAS A DISTRICT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY OF WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT TO ESTABLISH AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. SO WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE WAS LIKE IN THAT AREA. UM, AND THE LDCS TO HELP PROMOTE. UM UH, THAT VISION. UM THE EXISTING DISTRICT COMPRISED OF THE DOWNTOWN FUTURE LAND, USE THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND THE RECREATION FUTURE LAND USE. UH DOWNTOWN IS YOUR YOUR MIXED USE, UM, DISTRICT AS YOU CAN, BECAUSE IT'S SELF EXPLANATORY. UM WE ALSO, UM AND THEN THE COMMERCIALS COMMERCIAL AGAIN, PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY, BUT IT DOES LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF USES. UM AND SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT BE WHAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE WITHIN THE DISTRICT. UM AND THEN SOME OF THEM WE WANT TO MAINTAIN, SO WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT. IN THE LDCS YOU'LL NOTICE UP AT THE TOP. THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER OF DOWNTOWN WITHIN QANTAS PARK. UM, WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO RECREATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. UH UM, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. UM WANNA BRING THAT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN FUTURE LAND USE? UM PARTICULARLY, UM, THESE PARCELS OVER HERE. UM THEY HAVE SOME UNIFIED THE OWNERSHIP AREAS . UM AND AGAIN THAT COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DOESN'T REFLECT THE FLEXIBILITY. UM THAT'S ALLOWED FOR WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AS FAR AS, UM DEVELOPING A HIGH STANDARD OF LDCS. UM THAT REFLECTS THE WALKABLE AND DOWNTOWN ADJACENT NATURE OF THIS AREA, AND THEN THE VISION THAT WAS EXPRESSED WITH, UM, THE CREATION OF THE CREEK DISTRACT THE DENSITY PROVISIONS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL TO DOWNTOWN IS DIFFERENT FROM THEM. ACCESS CITY WITHIN COMMERCIALS. 15 DWELLING UNITS BURGER WAS DOWNTOWN HAS SOME CONDITIONAL USE. UM UM, PROVISIONS THAT COULD ALLOW YOU TO GET UP TO 30 AGAIN. THAT UP TO 30 IS PROVIDED FOR WITHIN THE LDCS. SO UM, ALTHOUGH IT MAY SAY 602 DWELLING UNITS, WHICH WOULD BE AS AN INCREASE OF 301 WITHIN THE LDCS THAT'S RESTRICTED BACK DOWN. UM AND THEN, FOR SOME REFERENCE ON THIS AREA, I THINK MANY OF US MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH MAYFAIR PLAZA. THAT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS HERE. UM THE BACK OF THE SEA COAST PROPERTY AND THEN THE PROPERTIES OVER HERE, WHICH , UM, YOU KNOW, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UM SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE IN THERE NOW DON'T QUITE ALIGN WITH THAT COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE SO UM AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CONTEXT OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY. UM, MUCH OF IT IS OLDER, HISTORIC FABRIC THAT IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO[01:20:06]
REDEVELOP UNDERSEA COMMERCIAL AND BE TO, UM THERE IS VERY LITTLE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN HOW YOU WOULD MEET THOSE STANDARDS. UM THE FUTURE LAND USE ISN'T JUST ABOUT DENSITY PROVISIONS THAT I GOT. THIS IS WHERE AGAIN I'M TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE THE EXAMPLE OF HOW THE FUTURE LAND USE SETS UP THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE, SO WE DIDN'T COMMERCIAL.YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S UM, A LIMITED AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL INDOOR INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, OFFICES, SHOPPING FINANCIAL CENTERS IT CAN ALLOW FOR THE HOTELS AND MOTELS. UM STORAGE CENTERS. THINGS LIKE THAT DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT, ALTHOUGH, UM, ALLOWS FOR THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MULTI FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL RECREATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES, LODGING.
UM A LOT OF THE SAME COMMERCIAL . HOWEVER A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL NON ISSUES SHOULD BE USED FOR IT IS NOT REQUIRED WITHIN THE DESERT IS MOVING. I'M SORRY. HOWEVER A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL USES AND NONRESIDENTIAL SHALL BE REQUIRED WITHIN THE DESIGNATION AS A WHOLE. SO IT'S NOT APPLIED, UM, PROJECT BY PROJECT. UM. AND THE OTHER IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE POLICY WITHIN THE URBAN DISTRICT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN IS IT PROVIDES FOR ARCHITECTURAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND THE ABILITY TO REGULATE THE BUILDING SIZE, ORIENTATION AND LANDSCAPING. UM SO AGAIN, WE'RE PROPOSING BRINGING THOSE AREAS WITHIN THE FUTURE LAND USE. THAT'S THE DENSITY DIFFERENCE AGAIN.
THERE'S PROVISIONS WITHIN THE LDC THAT ACTUALLY BRING THAT DOWN. UM FOR EXAMPLE, THE THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WE BRING BACK INTO THE 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. UM AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OWNERSHIP. THE C R A VISION. THE FACT THAT IT IS WITHIN THE C, R A AND THE COMMUNITY VISION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM SO WE'RE HOPING TO RECEIVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL TO DOWNTOWN AND DOWNTOWN TO RECREATION WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? COME TO THE MIC AND FILL OUT A CARD AFTER YOU'RE DONE. MARK BREAKFAST TWO. OH, EIGHT, SOUTHEAST ASEAN, THE STREET AND STEWART. UM I JUST HAVE A QUESTION RELATIVE TO, UME CURRENTLY SOME USES IN THERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A GYM IN THERE, AND THAT NOW IS RESTRICTED SO WELL THAT PROPERTY BE GRANDFATHER DINNER AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY IF HE WANTS TO EXPAND THAT, JIM WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PROPERTY? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS? HOW WILL THIS APPLY TO THE ZONE TO THE SOUND ORDINANCE? UM BECAUSE WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL WHICH OF COURSE, IS WAY ABOVE THE DECIBEL LEVELS TYPICALLY HAVE BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAD. IT'S AN ARTS DISTRICT. AND SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT THAT THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE ARK DISTRICT WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THAN IN A TYPICAL COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
MA'AM, CAN YOU ANSWER THIS? SO THE EXISTING JIM SO WITHIN THE CREASE CREEK DISTRICT, UM PERMITTED USES IS A IS A HEALTH FACILITY OR GYM, SO THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED WITH GOING FORWARD . UM SO THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE . LET ME EXACTLY IT WAS IT WAS. THAT'S VERIFYING MY GIANT TRIBE.
UM YES, HEALTH CLUBS AND HEALTH SPAS PERMITTED IN IN ALL THREE DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CREEK. SO THAT OKAY, OKAY. OKAY THERE'S GYMS SPRINKLED ALL AROUND THE CREEK DISTRICT. YEAH WHICH IS AN INTERESTING THING. UM IN FACT, SO SOME OF THOSE GYMS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CHECK MARK. IN THE URBAN DISTRICT BEFORE. UM SO WE'RE ACTUALLY CORRECTING FOR THAT FOR THE CREEK DISTRICT. UM WHERE THOSE HEALTH CLUBS HAVE PROSPERED AND ARE DOING WELL, UM , THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE SOUND ORANGES. THOSE LIKE, UM, UM, ALCOHOL SALES AND, UM, SOUND ORDINANCES. UM AND SOME OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT'S WITHIN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND IT'S NOT WITHIN THE LDCS. SO IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS. UM THIS EFFORT. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT BUILDING FORM, SO THAT HAND THAT'S HANDLED SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT BASES, OKAY? PORT TO SOMETIMES I RIGHT BACK INTO THE GOOD STUFF GETTING HERE. YEAH. OKAY? FOOD DOES SOUND ORDINANCES . WE WILL HAVE TO BRING IT TO
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THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY, SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THIS COMMENT BACK TO APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT. OKAY YEAH, QUITE A FEW ONCE IN A WHILE WITH NOISE AND STUFF, BUT THE CITY AND FORCES SO THEY HAVE A DECIBEL LIMIT. OKAY WE HAD WE HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION WITHIN OUR WORK IN PROGRESS, AND THAT WAS, UM TO BE CONSISTENT THAT THAT'S IT'S A SEPARATE PLACE WHERE THOSE LIVE. THEY DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE EFFORT TO CHANGE THOSE CODES, OKAY? OKAY? BUT I THINK. ONE OF THE CONCERNS LIKE THAT TYPE AH, IT'S WHEN WE TALKED BEFORE IS THAT IF YOU GOT TO EXISTING BUSINESS, RIGHT AND SUDDENLY THAT BUSINESS WANTS TO EXPAND, RIGHT? AH, OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO HIS BUILDING. EVEN RIGHT, RIGHT? HE CALLED. HE FALLS UNDER A NONCONFORMING USE. OKAY IN THE 19 HORN USED, THEN HAS TO BE HANDLED THROUGH. I THINK ZONING CHANGES OR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. AH IN ORDER FOR THAT BUSINESS TO GET BE ABLE TO MODIFY OKAY? SO HE'S EITHER STUCK WITH WHAT HE'S DOING, RIGHT USES IT USAGE EVERYTHING ELSE SO UH, THAT'S WHAT IF WE PREVENT NONCONFORMING USES OKAY IN THAT DISTRICT, AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. UM I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. AND YOU MADE THAT SIMILAR COMMENT. WHEN WE WERE AT THE L P A. SO I CAN ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS MORE FULLY WITHIN THE LDC PRESENTATION SINCE WE DID THE PRESENTATIONS, UM TO ALL THE BOARDS AND THE ADDITIONAL OUTREACH, UM WE WENT THROUGH AND FINE TOOTH COMBED AGAIN. WHAT USES ARE THERE? WE DID MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, PARTICULARLY FOR AUTOMOTIVE USES, WHERE THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THOSE WITHIN THE DISTRICT. UM, SO THAT THOSE USES CAN BE ALLOWED WHETHER THEY ARE AND BUT THEN YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SPILL INTO WHAT WE CALL YOU KNOW THE CREEK, NORTH AND SOUTH AREAS, SO THERE'S UM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES TO THAT PERMITTED USE TABLE THAT REFLECTS THAT. THAT COMMENT, UM UM THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THAT , UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT TRADE INDUSTRIES WERE ACTUALLY CLEARLY COMMUNICATED AS PERMITTED USES IN HERE, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY FILLING SOME GAPS WITHIN THAT, UM, ALSO, AS FAR AS REDEVELOPMENT ON THE SITES, UM YOU KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PROBLEM TODAY WITHIN B TWO, UM AND IT'S EVEN HARDER UNDER BEAT, TOO, BECAUSE B TWO HAS IT MORE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, AND, UM, I LOVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT, AND I LOVE THEM ON LARGER SITES, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY SMALL, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKER SPACES, INDUSTRIAL SPACES , SO I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT IF AN APPLICANT OR COULD COME IN AND TRY TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY NOW I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU'VE NEVER SEEN AND I INCLUDED A SLIDE ON SOME OF THE CONTEXT. I MEAN, THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AND NO ONE'S TOUCHED THEM BECAUSE IF THEY DO, IT'S GOING TO PROMPT SO MANY NONCONFORMING , AND HE'S RIGHT NOW. UM SO THESE LDCS THEY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE SCALE OF THE LOTS. UM UM AND YOU KNOW HOW INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT COULD CHANGE OR REDEVELOPMENT COULD CHANGE THE FABRIC OF THIS AREA SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE WALKABLE. IT'S GOT MORE OF THOSE FRONTAGE TYPES. BUT THAT WORKING WITHIN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY, UM AGAIN ACKNOWLEDGING THAT SIMILAR PROCESS WE TALKED ABOUT. WE'RE LOOKING AT HISTORIC COTTAGES, BUT THIS CASE SMALL SCALE INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS HAPPEN. DISPUTE DO REQUIRE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPING, RIGHT? RIGHT PARKING SPACE, RIGHT? WELL. IF YOU LOSE A PARKING SPACE, YOU MAY NOT COMPLY WITH YOUR MINIMUM PARKING SPACES, RIGHT? SO I THINK AS LONG AS THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT IF THEY'RE UPGRADING THEN THEY CAN LOSE A PARKING SPACE AND THEY'RE NOT PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW NONCONFORMING YOUTH WITHOUT ENOUGH PARKING. OKAY RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS OFF THE BAT. IS THAT THE STANDARDS FOR? UM AND AGAIN? THIS IS JUMPING TO THE LDCS. BUT ONE OF THE STANDARDS THAT'S DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE TWO IS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. RIGHT NOW, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY HIGH FOR THESE STRUCTURES. UM SOME OF THEM USE THEM ALL LIKE THE ONES WHO HAVE AUTOMOTIVE USES. THEY NEED EVERY SPOT THEY CAN GET. IN FACT, THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT? UM SOME OF THESE USES. I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE LIKE NOBODY'S PARKING BACK HERE. NOBODY'S OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THEM AREN'T USING IT SO IF THEY WERE TO SAY, DO AN ADDITION AND DO SOME RENOVATIONS , THE PARKING STANDARD COULD ALLOW FOR THEM TO DO THAT EDITION. OKAY OUT OF SIDEWALK.[01:30:01]
WE NEED SOME SHADE TREES ALONG HERE BUT DO YOUR EDITION IN THE REAR. YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT.THERE'S AN IT'S MUCH I FEEL VERY STRONGLY IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER TO COMPLY WITH THE PROPOSED STANDARDS AND THE STANDARDS ARE TODAY. SO THE STANDARD TODAY RIGHT NOW REQUIRES A 30 FT SETBACK. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE STRUCTURE IN THIS AREA THAT HAS A 30 FT SETBACK THEY REQUIRE, UM 20% LANDSCAPING. NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE 20% LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, SO UM SO WE'RE WE'RE MEETING THESE PROPERTIES IN THE MIDDLE WHERE WE COULD IF THEY REDEVELOPED AND THEY WANT TO ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE, OR THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEIR USE THAT THERE'S AN AVENUE FOR IMPROVING THOSE PROPERTIES WILL STILL ALLOWING FOR THOSE BUSINESS USES. AND THAT'S WHY I SAY YEAH, YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T CONFIRM CONFORMED ANYMORE AS WE JUST PASSED THINGS. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS IT UNTIL THEY GO TO GET A MODIFICATION UNDER BUILDING OR YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE, OH, RIGHT. DON'T DO NOTHING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING YOURSELF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OH, 2-20 TO 3. CORRECT CORRECT. OUR SECOND YOU BEAT ME. STRONG. REMEMBER MATTERS. YES, YES. BORN MEMBER, STROM. YES
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REMEMBER BY TALLY? YES, OKAY. NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO NUMBERS SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 25. OH, ONE. DASH 20 TO 3 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 2498-20 TO 3. DO WE HAVE TO ANNOUNCE MYSELF AGAIN? SEYMOUR RECORD. UM YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE ALREADY. OKAY SO THE , UM SPECIFIC LDCS FOR THE CREEK DISTRICT ARE ALSO GOING TO LIVE WITHIN THE SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT ACT ZONING CATEGORY OF CHAPTER WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, SO IT'S AFTER ALL THE OTHER SPECIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE C R A. AND THIS IS A SPECIAL CHAPTER WITHIN THE LDCS THAT SPECIFIC FOR AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE, UM, THE C R. A. UM AGAIN, UM, SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS THAT WE HAD BEFORE AND SOME OF THEM THAT WE ALREADY WENT OVER ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUTREACH PROPERTY OWNERS, UM AND WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO AGAIN. THE NONCONFORMITY IS THAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WITH B TWO WITHIN THE CREEK INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. UM ALSO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH. WE WENT INTO THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE. THAT WAS SOME COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE L P A. AND THEN WE HAD THE SAME OR SIMILAR AT CIVIC OPEN SPACE CONCERNS AT THE CITY COMMISSION. WE WENT THROUGH THIS ALREADY. SO THE SAME POLICY APPLIES WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT. ALTHOUGH THE SCALE OF THAT MAJOR DEVELOPMENT DEFINITION IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF A DISTRICT, UM AND MORE INTENSE USES THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING MAPS, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AREA WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE THAT, FOR THE MOST PART WITH IT OR IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE B TWO BUSINESS GENERAL. UM AND THEN THE URBAN GENERAL HAS A LITTLE SLIVER. OVER HERE. UM AND THIS DESIGNATION OF THIS AREA BEING DIFFERENT THAN THE REST. REALLY DIDN'T HOLD A LOT OF PLANNING, UM, MARRIED, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THEY DELINEATION BASED OFF OF THE CREEK, WHICH THE CREEK IS NAMED FOR WHICH CONVENIENTLY ALSO SEPARATES THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. SO TO THE NORTH, YOU'VE GOT THE CREEK NORTH. UM AND THAT HAS SMALLER PARCELS, MORE HISTORIC FABRIC, AND WE WANT TO PROTECT THAT HISTORIC FABRIC. UM AND THEN TO THE SOUTH. UM THE DESIRE IS TO CREATE MORE OF A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM AND EXTEND SOME OF THE GOOD POLICIES THAT AND BUILD ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE TO THE CREEK TO THE NORTH. BUT WE DO HAVE LARGER POP PARCELS TO WORK WITH, UM, SO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT ALONG THOSE LINES. UM AND THEN THE CREEK INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WE JUST SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT, UM , VERY SMALL LOTS, ALSO AN OLDER , HISTORIC PART OF THE CITY ORIGINALLY WAS PART OF REALLY EAST STEWART, AND IT'S PLANNING UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE REALLY SMALL. UM SITES. UM WITHIN THAT AREA. UM WE HAVE THE CIVIC SITES CALLED OUT. WE HAVE THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE CALLED OUT FRASURE CREEK AND ALSO ALONG COLORADO. UM THERE IS A REQUIRED COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE CALLED OUT FOR AND THERE'S A FEW WAYS TO COMPLY WITH THAT, ONE OF WHICH IS TO MAINTAIN THE[01:35:03]
COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE THAT YOU HAVE THERE TODAY, RIGHT? THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE THAT IS THERE. UM IF A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT CAME IN ALONG THAT SITE , UM AND THEY, THEREFORE IT'S HABITABLE SPACE. THEY CAN COME BACK AND MEET THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE, SO THAT'S ONE PLACE WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE COMES INTO PLAY AGAIN. UM UM, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BETWEEN THE URBAN GENERAL AND THE URBAN CENTER WERE VERY SIMILAR. UM WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN THE CREEK NORTH, UM, MAINTAINS THE THREE STORY HEIGHT, ALTHOUGH WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IT'S A 40 STORY HEIGHT BECAUSE IT TO ACHIEVE A THREE STORY BUILDING, UM, WITHIN 35 FT. IT'S MODERN BUILDING PRACTICES IS NOT, UM FEASIBLE. REALLY UM, AND THEN IT'S SIMILAR PROVISIONS HERE IN THE CREEK NORTH. WHERE THE UM THE FOUR STORY AND UP TO 45 FT CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THE P U D PROCESS WHERE THERE'S A NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AN EXCEPTION TO THE STANDARDS THAT GO ALONG WITH PRODUCING A PUY DE BECAUSE AGAIN . THOSE NORTH CREEK NORTH PROPERTIES ARE VERY SMALL, UM, AND CONSIDERING ALL THE FORM REQUIREMENTS, LIKE THE FRONTAGE STAVES, THE SHIELDING OF ON STREET PARKING THE SHIELDING OF I MEAN, TRY SHIELD UP IN CLOSED PARKING, UM, FOUR STORIES IS A VERY TALL ORDER TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE AND SO THERE IS A THRESHOLD WHERE YOU CAN ACHIEVE IT, UM, AN AVENUE WHERE YOU COULD ACHIEVE THAT. UM, BUT IT IT'S UM IT'S A HARD PART TO REACH WITH MODERN BUILDING STANDARDS AND THE FORM THAT WE HAVE. UM THAT THAT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT. UM WE GO AHEAD AND WE CALL OUT THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE, WHICH AGAIN IS NOT A NEW STANDARD, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN WITHIN THE ZONING CODE BEFORE. IT'S ALREADY THERE. UM BUT AGAIN, IT WASN'T IN THE ZONING CODE. SO MANY PEOPLE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT WHEN THEY STARTED LOOKING AT THE STANDARDS. UM THE CREEK SOUTH ALLOWS FOR FOUR STORIES. TODAY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO A FOUR STORY WITHIN THE CREEK SOUTH IF YOU ARE, UM HOTEL OR RESIDENTIAL , AND THAT'S A FUNNY THING ABOUT HISTORY BEING ENCAPSULATED WITHIN THE, UM WITHIN ZONING CODES IS THAT AT THE TIME WHEN THOSE CODES WERE WRITTEN HOTEL AND RESIDENTIAL WITH SOMETHING PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO PULL TO DOWNTOWN. NOW THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET WANTS TO DELIVER. SO UM, THAT INCENTIVE IS NOT TIED, UM REALLY, TO AN INCENTIVE ANYMORE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS COMING IN AS FAR AS THE MARKET DEMAND, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FORM BASED CODE, THE IMPORTANCE IS CREATING THE FORM OF THE BUILDING WITH THOSE FRONTAGE TYPES WITH THE ROVER STANDARDS. UM AND WHETHER OR NOT IT HOUSES, RESIDENTIAL OR OFFICE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR. BUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU GET THE FORM OF THE BUILDING RIGHT SO THAT IT CAN BE ADAPTIVE. LEE REUSED OVER TIME, IF NECESSARY AND RESPOND TO MARKET DEMANDS. AND THE, UM THE DENSITY IS CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE URBAN CENTER THERE. UM CREEK INDUSTRIAL. WE MENTIONED THIS AND I MENTIONED THIS IN THE FLUME PRESENTATION. UM WE RELAXED OR REDUCED THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT TO BUILD TWO ZONE OF 10 TO 30 FT. RIGHT NOW IT'S 30 FT. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE BUILDING THAT THEY GOT COMPLIES WITH THAT. PRACTICALLY SO, UM AGAIN. THIS ALLOWS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THAT SITE A LOT BETTER. UM IT MAINTAINS THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE REQUIREMENT THAT'S THERE TODAY. UM AND THEN THE DENSITY IS AGAIN, UH, 15 DWELLING YEARS PER ACRE, SO WE'VE MAINTAINED THE DENSITY THAT'S THERE TODAY. UM THE USES . WE WENT BACK AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT THOSE USES WITHOUT ARE IN WITHIN B TWO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT, SO WE ADDED BACK IN THE MAKE SURE THAT BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WERE INCLUDED AUTUMN OF HARRIS SERVICES WITHIN ENCLOSED BUILDINGS ALONG FLORIDA STREET. UM AND US ONE AND CREEK SOUTH HEALTH CLUBS. UM WAS ADDED AND KENNELS TO THE CREEK INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS REPAIR SERVICES. UM THE DENSITY. WE ALREADY MENTIONED THIS ONE. UM, THE FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAY ALLOW FOR A CONDITIONAL USE UP TO DWELLING UNITS BURGER, BUT NOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE ZONING CAP IT AT 15 MILLION UNITS PER ACRE. IT'S JUST THE FOCUS. THERE IS NOT RESIDENTIAL . IT'S REALLY ON THOSE MAKER SPACES AND THOSE JOB CENTERS THAT ARE THERE TODAY. WE HAVE FRONTAGE TYPES LIKE THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. UM, SIMILAR STANDARDS WE OUTLINED WHERE THEY'RE PERMITTED. WE DID ADD ANOTHER ONE, WHICH IS A GARAGE SHORE FRONT STOREFRONT. UM AND HOW THOSE CAN ADAPT TO BEING IN A DISTRICT THAT HAS AN ART WALK , BUT MAY ALSO BE YOU KNOW, YOUR[01:40:01]
A C REPAIR GUY AND YOUR, UM, ELECTRICIAN. WE DON'T WANT THOSE USES TO BE UNWELCOME, SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FRONTAGE TYPE THAT CAN BE APPLIED WITHIN THERE, TOO. AND THEN WE MENTIONED THE PARKING STANDARDS . THE EXISTING PARKING STANDARDS , UM PARTICULARLY FOR B TWO, BUT ALSO FOR THE URBAN GENERAL AND THE URBAN CENTER, UM, ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT WITH A CHANGE OF USE. THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC, AND THEY ARE OFTEN TIED TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT AND SEATS, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO REVIEW AND REGULATE AND FOR APPLICANTS TO PREDICT. UM SO WE WANTED TO REFLECT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND HOW AND SOME OF THE, UM SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS REMOVED ANYTHING THAT HAD A STANDARD TIED TO EMPLOYEES OR TO THE SEATS? UM AND THEN WE PROVIDED A STRAIGHTFORWARD UM. ONE PER 300 FOR ANY COMMERCIAL USES SO THAT ALLOWS FOR THE ADAPTIVE RE USE OF SPACES OVER TIME. UM WE HAVE A AERIAL PICTURE OF ROASTED RECORD HERE AS AN EXAMPLE. UM THEIR EXISTING THE CODE TODAY IN THIS AREA WOULD HAVE REQUIRED 12 PARKING SPACES. UM, IF YOU LAY OUT 12 12 PARKING SPACES AND THIS SITE, YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING ANYMORE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS ANYMORE, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN OUR WALKABLE DOWNTOWNS. SO UM, THEY RECOMMENDED A VARIANCE ON THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY REFLECTING THAT VARIANCE. UM, AND THAT'S SIMILAR STANDARD WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT. WE SHOW THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AGAIN. UM THERE'S A FEW RECOMMENDED CONNECTIONS SIMILAR TO E. STEWART THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY ON HOW IT APPLICANT IN A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT OR INFIELD PROJECT COULD APPLY WITH FOR ONE OF THOSE, UM WE ALSO CALLED THE CIVIC SITES AGAIN AND A AND B STREET NETWORK, SO IN A STREET IS IN ST THAT HAS BROUGHT TO A HIGHER PRESIDENTIAL. I MEAN, I'M PEDESTRIAN STANDARD.UM SO YOU MORE EMPHASIS ON THE SIZE OF THE SIDEWALKS AND PARTICULARLY FOR GARAGE STANDARDS, SO IF AN ENCLOSED GARAGE IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE OF THE PROJECT, THESE PARCELS UM THEIR ENTRANCES NEED TO BE ALONG THE B STREETS, RATHER THAN THE A STREET AND AGAIN IS TO CREATE A HIERARCHY OF STREETS SO THAT UM , THE SPINE OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS COLORADO IS HELD TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD AND UM, AS WELL AS EXISTING ROADWAYS. UM AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? LET YOU KNOW AND THEN AGAIN, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS. THESE SIMILAR STANDARDS ARE BROUGHT THROUGH IN THE CREEK SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE. WE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES AGAIN TO UM WHAT'S PERMITTED WITHIN THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE, THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE IN THIS AREA, AND THIS IS AN EXISTING STANDARD IS ONLY 10. FT UM, WHAT IT ALLOWED FOR BEFORE, THOUGH, WAS EVEN WITHIN THAT 10 FT. IT ALLOWED FOR PARKING. UM WHICH IS TERRIBLE FOR OUR RIGHT OF WAYS. WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE BEFORE WE LET A CAR PARKED NEXT TO FRASURE CREEK. UM AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS ELIMINATE THAT STANDARD AS WELL AS THE LAB FOR A PROVISION THAT COULD ALLOW FOR ACCESS TO THAT WATERWAY. UM KAYAKS AND DOCKS AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACES THAT DON'T EXCEED 50% OF THE SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE. UM WE ALSO ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU WITH A COMMENT ABOUT NO SEAWALLS. BULKHEADS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED . WE MODIFIED THAT LANGUAGE. UM WE CONDUCTED ANOTHER SITE VISIT AND WALKED ALONG THOSE MANGROVES AND SAW THAT THERE WERE IN FACT TWO BULKHEADS, UM SO WE MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE SO THAT BULKHEADS AND SEAWALLS SHALL BE PERMITTED IF ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE , SO THOSE, UM EXISTING SEAWALLS CAN BE REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED AS THEY NEED TO BE SO THAT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE AND PROTECTING THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT NO ADDITIONAL SEAWALLS ALONG THE CREEK DISTRICT. YES YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET STORMS. AND THIS LOSS OF YOU KNOW, SHORELINE. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T ALLOW SOMEBODY TO BALK HEAD THE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION ABOUT HOW TO SAVE THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE. IF IT DOESN'T UNDERMINE IT, RIGHT, UM SO THE TWO STRUCTURES THAT ARE THAT THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THAT CLOSE, UM THEY HAVE THAT, UM THEY HAVE THAT BULKHEAD TODAY.
AND SO THIS WE'VE MODIFIED IT SO THAT THAT IS A PERMITTED USE OR PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT THERE. UM YOU KNOW THE STUDIES ON UM THE MORE BULKHEADS YOU HAVE, THE MORE SEAWALLS. YOU HAVE MORE YOU INCREASE THE, UM THE EROSION. ACTUALLY YOU KNOW THAT SO YOU'RE YOU'RE AT THE DETRIMENT OF CREATING PROBLEMS FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS. WHEN YOU ADD THE SEAWALLS, UM SO INSTEAD WHAT
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WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT THAT SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE ACTUALLY BE A SHORELINE PROTECTION ZONE WITH A LITTLE MORE TEA, SO THAT AGAIN PEOPLE AREN'T PARKING SO CLOSE TO THOSE , UM, PROTECTED MANGROVES. YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE WHEN THERE'S CAR MOVEMENT ALONG THAT FOUNDATION, YOU'RE ONLY WEAKENING. UM YOU KNOW THAT NATURAL STABILITY THAT THE MANGROVES ARE GIVING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF MANGROVES IN THERE AND THEY'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THE SOIL THERE. WE JUST NEED TO LET THEM DO THEIR JOB. GIVE HIM A LITTLE MORE SPACE. UM THAT'S THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. UM. AND AGAIN. THIS IS A LOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT RIGHT? SO IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN IF THERE'S INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE, UM ALONG THE CREEK, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS LIVE APPLICATIONS COMING IN THIS, THAT'S WHERE THIS REALLY IS GOING TO APPLY. IF YOU'RE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. UM BUT IT'S THOSE INFILL LOTS WHERE YOU'VE GOT NEW STUFF COMING IN. THEY DON'T NEED THEY CAN. THEY CAN SET BACK SO THAT THEY DON'T YEAH, STUFF IS A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S HOMES AND STUFF ALONG THAT CREEK, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT, THOUGH. THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG. SO THAT'S THAT'S FURTHER WEST, WHERE THERE'S THE HOMES.THESE ARE ALL ALONG THIS FRONTAGE. THEY'RE ALL BUSINESSES. UM WELL, YOU GOT YOU GOT ONE WHERE WE IN THE CREEK DISTANCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COLORADO ON THE OTHER, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE CREEK DISTRICT. OKAY, LOOK LIKE LIKE THOSE HOME. YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CREEK. YOU SEE WHERE THE CREEK GOES THROUGH, RIGHT? MY LITTLE CROSSES COLORADO, RIGHT? RIGHT HERE, RIGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ? YEAH THEY'RE RIGHT THERE ON IT . YEAH, BUT THAT'S OUT OF IT, RIGHT? CHANNEL AVENUE, SEVENTH STREET OR NOT SIGN AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THEY GET A LOT OF EROSION, AND IT COMES OFF THE CITY STREET. NONE OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT, RIGHT SO WELL AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ISSUE. I CAN'T I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEM.
BUT THIS PROVISION DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM AS WE'RE NOT DENYING HIM THAT OPTION. BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER THERE, RIGHT? UM WE WHAT WE WOULD BE, IF JUST BE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THIS MAP AND AGAIN. HOPEFULLY, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF THEY YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE WERE TO BULKHEAD ONE OF THESE INFILL SITES ALONG HERE THEY WOULD EXACERBATE RIGHT THOSE RUNOFF PROBLEMS FOR THE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. RIGHT? SO THE MORE WE CAN, WE CAN HELP THEM OUT ABOUT THAT. IF WE GET A MAJOR HURRICANE BOT GOES DOWN THE DITCHES OR US ONE IS GOING RIGHT DOWN THAT CREEK.
OKAY PLUS COLORADO? YEAH THERE ARE WHERE WE'VE HAD EROSIONS IN THE PAST. EVER GETS WIDENING ANYMORE. SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS UP THERE OH, BEHIND WA WA'S ON FLORIDA STREET RIGHT BEGINNING THAT CANAL YEAH, THEY NOT TOO FAR FROM IT. SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS YEAH. ANYMORE STORMS OR SOMETHING OVER THE YEARS HEAVY RANGE COMING OFF THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS. THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE FOUNDATION. OKAY SO MY CONCERN IS NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT EXISTING CONSTRUCTION TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY FROM, YOU KNOW, LOSS OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING ETCETERA. THAT MAY BE THEIR ONLY OPTION. YOU CAN'T FEEL YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. BUT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN PUT EMERGENCY BULKHEADS IN TO PROTECT IT. IT'S A SPECIAL CASE, BUT I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE ANOTHER AREAS AND STUFF AND YOU HAVE TO GO PRETTY FAST AND PART OF THE BUILDINGS UNDERMINED SO BALL KIDS, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO OKAY? SO I'M JUST SAYING EMERGENCY CONDITIONS, HURRICANE OR SOMETHING EROSION. THAT SHOULD BE LEASED AN OPTION FOR PROTECTION OF PROPERTY. OKAY? I MEAN, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PROVISIONS. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY, I THINK AGAIN, LIKE, IF STRUCTURES ABOUT THERE MAY BE SOME PROVISIONS FOR EMERGENCIES AND IN FEMA RESPONSE IS STRICTLY HERE, RIGHT IF IT'S REFERENCED, EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCY CONDITIONS UNDER SUCH AND SUCH, I MEAN, THEN IT ALLOWS YOU TO DO SOMETHING ON EMERGENCIES ALL MHM. BUT JUST A SUGGESTION. OKAY? UM WE'RE GETTING TO THE END OF THE COMES OKAY. PROPOSED OPEN SPACE. SIMILAR LANGUAGE HERE. WE'LL CORRECT THAT. UM AND CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE REGARDING PERVIOUS COUNTING ANYTHING THAT'S PERVIOUS COUNTING TOWARDS YOUR PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT AND AGAIN. THIS IS NOT TIED TO ANY LOT SIZE. IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR SITES AND CAN BE REFERENCED AS
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PART OF THE DESIGN OBJECTIVES FOR CONDITIONAL USES. AHMED IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO SINGLE FAMILIES, AND, UM AGAIN. IT'S NOT REQUIRED ON ANY SITES TODAY . UM IT JUST IS A TOOL WITHIN THE UM LDCS FOR THOSE CONDITIONAL USES AND ALSO FOR DISCUSSIONS ALONG THE LINES OF P U. D S AND IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE WAY OF COMPLYING WITH THAT REQUIRED COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE. IF A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT WANTED TO COME IN THERE UM AND I BROUGHT IN A FEW STANDARDS AGAIN. I MENTIONED THAT AZUL HAS THIS. IT COMPLIES WITH IT. IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE ALREADY WITHIN THE URBAN DISTRICT THAT REQUIRE COURTYARDS. UM, SHADED SEATING AREAS. UM SO IT IS NOT FOREIGN DNA TO THE URBAN CENTER . UM AND THEN THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT I WANTED TO SHOW FOR THAT, UM, SIDE TO SIDE COMPARISON OF WHAT THE B TWO REQUIRES AND WHAT THE PROPOSED CREEK INDUSTRY. REAL WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR TODAY, SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT THAT AREA IS NOT ACTUALLY AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TODAY, IT'S GOT STANDARDS THAT ARE REALLY MUCH MORE CONSISTENT WITH, YOU KNOW, RETAIL THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ALONG US ONE. UM IT REQUIRES 20% LANDSCAPING. UM UM, THREE PLANTINGS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY REASONABLE, BUT IT REQUIRES EIGHT FT SIDEWALKS, UM , A THREAT, 30 FT SETBACK AND A 20 FT REAR SETBACK. SO THIS IS A REALLY SMALL SITE, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW, UM THE BUILDABLE AREAS GREATLY DIMINISHED ACTUALLY IN THE EXISTING STANDARDS. WHEREAS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM THERE'S NOT A LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT. JUST THE NEED TREE FRONTAGE, WHICH BRINGS IN LANDSCAPING, THE SEED, SIX FT SIDEWALK AND A MORE FLEXIBLE BILL TO ZONE AND REAR SETBACK. THAT'S A LITTLE SIDE BY SIDE OF HOW THE STANDARDS AGAIN. REALLY REFLECT BETTER THE SCALE OF THE SITE. UM AND WE DON'T CHANGE THE MAX IMPERVIOUS AREA. THIS IS ASSUMING, UM YOU KNOW, PERVIOUS. AH. PARKING SPACES, RIGHT, DR BELL? AGAIN THE CONTEXT FOR REFERENCE. UM AND THEN AGAIN, WE HOPE TO AGAIN HAVE THE MOTION OF TO APPROVE THE ZONING MAP CHANGES AS WELL AS THE LDC, UM, CORE BASED CODE REGULATIONS. UM I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION WITHIN YOUR PACKET. THERE'S A COUPLE OF SECTIONS WITHIN CHAPTER TWO AND CHAPTER THREE THAT ALSO INCLUDE CHANGES. UM THOSE ARE REALLY TO CLEAN UP . UM IF THE LDCS ARE APPROVED THAT THE REFERENCES TO THE CREEK DISTRICT ARE THERE, UM, AND THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY WITHIN THE REST OF THE CODE, SO THAT AVOID CONFUSION. SO THAT'S WHAT, UM SOME CONTEXT ON WHY THOSE CHAPTER TWO ELEMENTS AND URBAN GENERAL, UM URBAN CODE REFERENCES ARE THERE AS WELL. OKAY, ONE OF THE THINGS IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE WHERE WE'RE TALKING, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE CHARGE FOR MAXIMUM SPORTS STORIES, HEIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IN THE CITY ORDINANCE. I THINK IT'S STILL THERE IN THE L. D, R OR L. D. C. UM WE HAVE AN AREA. STATEMENT AS WEIRD AS A FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION START. OKAY? SO IF YOU CAN FIND THAT THEY HELP, MAKE SURE IT'S THE ONE WE ESTABLISHED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CHANGED IT ANY BUT YOU NEED TO PUT A REFERENCE TO THAT SECTION. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SECTION IS WHAT WE WANT. BECAUSE YOU GOTTA START SOMEPLACE OKAY? AND THAT START IS IMPORTANT TO WHERE YOU START 30 FT. 45 FT, YOU KNOW, SO RIGHT, SO WE DON'T WE MAKE REFERENCE TO WHAT'S WITHIN THE EXISTING CODE LANGUAGE TODAY. WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE WAY HEIGHT IS MEASURED FOR JUST THIS DISTRICT , AND WHAT WE DID WAS, WE ILLUSTRATED IT, SO THERE'S A GRAPHIC, UM, NEXT TO THE HEIGHT. YOU KNOW, REFERENCING. THIS IS HOW YOU MEASURE HOW IT GOES BACK TO THE BIG CODE. AND THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW YOU DO THAT. SO YOUR YOUR ZERO WOULD START AT EITHER YOUR FLOODPLAIN, YOU KNOW , BUT IF YOU WERE A FLOOD POINT PLAIN X, IT WOULD BE THAT 18 INCHES ABOVE THE CROWN OF ROAD. YEAH YEAH. WE ALSO ADDED SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE CUTTING DOWN THEIR LAW EITHER RIGHT? ADDED OTHER THINGS IN THAT CODE, AND I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN QUITE A WHILE. SO THAT'S UP TO SPEED. IT'S ALL THERE IN CHAPTER SIX, AND THAT'S WHAT WE MAKE REFERENCE TO STILL PRETTY WELL UP TO CODE. YES YES, IT'S CONFUSING RIGHT AND IT'S REFERENCED. AND THREE DIFFERENT THERE'S IT'S REINFORCED IN THREE DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN THE CODE , BUT IT'S WE MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT AND THEN APPLIES WITHIN THIS DISTRICT. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVEN'T CHANGED IT, SO IT'S STILL PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE. I THINK. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE[01:55:09]
A MOTION? MOVE APPROVAL, BUT I WOULD ADD BILL'S COMMENT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS FOR BULKHEADS. COULD WE CLARIFY THE ORDINANCE NUMBER FOR THE MOTION? SO THIS IS MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE BULKHEAD. UM, COMMENT. I BELIEVE IT WOULD FIT ON THE SECOND IS THAT WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE FIRST? OKAY, SO FIRST, IT'S TO MAKE KEEP THE EXISTING APPROVED MOTION NUMBER. UM ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 OH ONE DASH. 20 TO 3. SO LET'S VOTE ON THAT. THE 2ND 2ND. AND THEN YOU WANT TO DO THS STRONG. YES PERSONAL MARINE. YES. REMEMBER MY TALLY? YES, OKAY. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPROVE MOTION NUMBER ORDINANCE NUMBER 2498-20 TO 3 WITH INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE ON BULKHEAD IN EMERGENCIES. MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND. CHAIRPERSON MARINE. YES REMEMBER MOTHER'S YES. VITALI. YES, MEMBERS FROM DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF UPDATES? NO[STAFF UPDATE]
NOT AT THIS TIME. I APPRECIATE IT, AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST CALL OUT ATTENTION TO THE CITY STAFF. UM MONOGAMY SERVICE HAS BEEN AMAZING AT COORDINATING ALL THE OUTREACH AND, UM AS WELL AS JORDAN PINKSTON, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SOME APPLAUSE GOES THROUGH JUST PUTTING UP WITH US. THEY CATCH UM OKAY. ARE THERE ANY STAFF UPDATES? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.OKAY ALRIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE SPOKEN TO YOU GUYS PREVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, THE CITY CLERK DEPARTMENT WILL BE TAKING OVER THE ADVISORY BORN. OKAY IT WILL.
JORDAN'S GOT A PROMOTION AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, TO WORK WITH PANEL. UM SO MARY AND I WILL BE TAKING OVER THE BOARD. SHE'LL BE SEEING US OKAY. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU WERE AT THE BOAT YESTERDAY. YOU FOUND THAT OUT. SORRY YEAR JOBS. SOME OF US HAVE CHILDREN'S PLACE. OH ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES SECOND IN FAVOR.
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