Dec 12, 2022 Regular City Commission Meeting

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COLOR IS SOMEONE WANTING TO SEE? OKAY HE SAID HE'S GOT SOMEONE IN THERE ALREADY. BUT JUST WHAT? NOT.

YEAH, MY BELLY SLIDER. WELL GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

[Call to Order]

COMMISSIONER BRUNER HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE, MR COLLINS, COMMISSIONER RICH HERE.

OKAY SO ANYWAY, UH, SO BEFORE WE BEFORE WE DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A QUICK MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALICE LOCKHART. AH VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PERSON OR CITY THAT, UH, HISTORIAN AND WAS SO HELPFUL ON SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE LOST HER RECENTLY TO CANCER, SO PLEASE KEEP HER AND HER FAMILY AND YOUR OUR PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS AND BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL, LOVELY WOMAN THAT CARED SO MUCH ABOUT STUART. SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE ABOUT BY THE BUDGE. THANK YOU. REGION. OF THE UNITED STATES. WHICH IS ONE NATION. JUSTICE. SHE'S CHRISTMAS, OKAY? WE HAVE THE ARTS MOMENT. YES. ALRIGHT. OH I KNOW WHO SHE IS. SHE'S YEAH, SHE'S HAD EXCELLENT HERE SIX TIMES. YEAH SO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS DAYS THE ARTS MOMENT. AND OUR. ARE. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A HOLIDAY SONG BY

[1. ARTS MOMENT - HOLIDAY SONG BY SAMARA LEWIS]

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IT ADDS. PRETTY SOON.

HAVE YOURSELF FROM EVERY LITTLE CHRISTMAS. LET YOUR HEART BE. DIED. FROM NOW. TROUBLES WILL BE OUT OF SIGHT. BY. HAVE YOURSELF TELL FROM EVERY LITTLE CHRISTMAS. US. MAKE THE YULETIDL BE MILES AWAY. HERE WE ARE. FRAGILE ORGAN DAY. HE'S HAPPY GOLDEN DAY, HE HOPE OH, FAITHFUL FOREVER WHO ARE DEAR TO US. US GATHERING NEAR TO US. YES. WANT SOME MORE? OH, THE YEARS WE ARE WILL BE TOGETHER. IF THE FATES LIVE. WOW. HEY. SHINING STAR. TERRIBLE OF THE HEART. YEAH.

YES. YOURSELF. FOR MAN. EVERY LITTLE CHRISTMAS. NO. WELL. OKAY THANK YOU. YEAH.

FATHER ON BOARD. GOOD JOB. I CAN SAY. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE A SERVICE AWARD. I DON'T HAVE TO SUGGEST TICKET. I DON'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE. TODAY WE'LL GET. YOU CAN HOLD THIS THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO MARA, THANK YOU FOR THIS. THANK YOU FAMILY. THANK YOU, DEXTER AND SHARON. OKAY THE NEXT ONE IS SELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. WE HAVE JUST MARRIED. DO

[2. SELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR]

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AND AGAIN IF YOU FILL OUT A GREEN CARD FOR YOUR OKAY, SO I NEED FOR EACH TIME. YES I DO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER BRUNER AND I THINK SHE DOES AS WELL AS SHE CAN, BUT NO, I I'M NOT SURE THAT IS OUR BEST FOR ADVICE. MAYOR. I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH, UM. I DON'T THINK THAT, UH SHE HAS ALL THE RESIDENTS AT HEART. I THINK SHE HAS A LOT OF THEM, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING ANY OF THE TWO NEW ONES. I MEAN, WE'D THEIR NEW AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRACK RECORD, SO I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A CHANCE. BUT YES, I APPRECIATE YOU, BECKY. BUT NO, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE A GOOD VICE MAYOR. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. I WOULD ECHO THE SAME THING. I THINK AGAIN BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US IN THE PAST THAT YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR ESTABLISHMENT'S ESSENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR CONSERVATION OF OUR LANDS, AND YOU'RE OVER OVERLY EMPHASIZING GROWTH. IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WANT, SO I THINK YOU'RE

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AND AGAIN, UH. I DO HOPE WE HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR. WE'VE HAD A REALLY HARD TRYING YEAR. BUT MOSTLY THAT GOES TO THE STAFF. THEY HAVE WORKED AND WORKED. AND UH, WE'VE GOT THROUGH SOME PRETTY TOUGH THINGS AND VERY STRONG AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO HELP US TO LEAD ON AND DO THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN. THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD YOU ARE, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO SERVICE AWARDS. WE ONLY HAVE

[3. SERVICE AWARDS - DECEMBER 2022]

CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S SO NICE. APARTMENT YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF THEIR TEAMS THAT ARE GETTING THEIR SERVICES AND SO MANY PEOPLE COME OUT AND SUPPORT. YES, THEY TRAVEL IN PACKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. WELCOME TO IS GOING ON. OKAY SO I HAD TO REQUEST THE MOVE THE

[5. 2023 CALENDAR PHOTO CONTEST WINNERS]

BUT, UM, FIRST MAYOR COMMISSIONER I'M LEANNE JONES ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. AND I'M HERE WITH AN L NG OUR PROGRAM MANAGER OR THE UM UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. AND I HAVE WORKED SEVERAL YEARS ON THE PUBLICATION OF THE STORMWATER CALENDAR. AND IT'S A STORMWATER BIENNIAL CALENDAR, SO WE ONLY DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED FOR OVER 16 YEARS. THE FIRST ONE WAS IN 2007. AND IT'S CREATING A HEALTHY RIVER DAY BY DAY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON STORM WATER. YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT CLEAN THE WATER BEFORE IT GOES OUT TO THE OCEAN. AND IN DOING THIS, WE HAVE PHOTO CONTEST TO BRING THE PUBLIC AND OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. SO THIS YEAR WE HAD 68 PHOTOS SUBMITTED. AND THEY'RE JUST INCREDIBLY TALENTED PHOTOGRAPHERS OUT THERE THAT WHO PARTICIPATED THIS YEAR. AND IT'S REALLY FANTASTIC. YOU SEE HOW EVERYBODY CAPTURES THE, UM, THE IMAGES OF OUR CITY, THE CREATURES THAT ARE SO HEALTHY IN THE STORM WATER ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE CREATE NOW DOWN, OKAY,

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THE ANIMALS. AREN'T THERE ANY CRETE? HARDLY ANY ANIMALS NOW WE HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL WATER OUT THERE. EAGLES ARE OUT THERE. SO THAT REALLY HELPS AND GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED REALLY HELPS, TOO. SO OUT OF THE 13 COVER 13 PHOTOS THAT NOW COVERED THE PAGES OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CALENDAR. IT'S NOT JUST DECORATIVE. IT'S ALSO HIGHLY USEFUL TOOL. IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE. THAT ALSO HELPS US WITH GRANTS FOR THIS STORM WATER. UME TEACH EVERYBODY ABOUT THE WATERSHED. WHERE TO PARTICIPATE IN NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS FOR OUR SANITATION SCHEDULES DURING ALL THE HOLIDAYS. AND WHAT NOT TO PUT DOWN THE DRAIN. SO WITH THOSE SPECIAL DATES, WE ALSO SHOW THAT WE HAVE WATER FEST COMING UP IN MARCH, WHICH WILL BE HERE MARCH 25TH AND 2023 MARKET CALENDARS. SO, UM, IT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT THAT WE TRY TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND EDUCATE THE CALENDARS WERE MAILED LAST WEEK. I ACTUALLY GOT ONE TODAY IN THE MAIL, SO THAT'S THEY? THEY'RE OUT THERE AND WE HAVE EXTRA FOR STAFF AND THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ONE UM, LIKE I SAID THE INJURIES WERE WONDERFUL EXAMPLES OF THE STRONG CONNECTION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY AND BECAUSE OF THE VERY, UM TALENTED PHOTOGRAPHERS, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL EDUCATIONAL STORMWATER CALENDAR. AND I JUST WANT TO REALLY SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL CALENDAR WITHOUT THEM. SO AS UM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EACH ONE OF THEM COME UP HERE AND GIVE THEM A CERTIFICATE AND SOME OF THEIR CALENDARS AND THEN WHEN WE'RE ALL DONE, I'D LIKE TO DO A GROUP SHOT WITH EVERYBODY. SO OUR BEAUTIFUL COVER. I'M HOPING SOME OF YOU GOT TO SEE IT SO YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE COVER WAS DONE BY MIA GIFFORD AND SHE'S HERE WITH HER PARENTS AND HER GRANDPARENTS. SO MIA. PERFECT GIFT. DO YOU WANT TO SHAKE HANDS SHAKE DOWN HERE? ME? WELL, THIS IS A TOAD. IT IS A TURTLE, THE TURTLE SERVICE AT MEMORIAL FABULOUS, OKAY. MY AND ME IF YOU WANT TO, JUST MAYBE STAND OVER THERE AND WE'LL GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. OKAY SO FEB FOR JANUARY. WE HAVE JIM PHARAOH, AND I'M SORRY HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT. YES YES. NO, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO WATCH WHEREVER THE CAMERA IS. UM, ALSO , FEBRUARY WAS SAL DELFINI. HE COULDN'T ATTEND TONIGHT, EITHER . THANK YOU, SIR. UM. SO FOR MARCH WE HAVE PAT HOUSTON AND SHE'S HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO GO OVER THERE. YOU ADD THE RAINBOW IN YOUR RIGHT THAT YES, A BEAUTIFUL NICELY. THANK YOU. AND FOR APRIL WE HAVE GREG GARDNER. NOT SURE. OKAY. BRINGING A LITTLE LITTLE YEAH. TRICK. YEAH. PICTURES INFORMATION E. WE HAVE, UM WAYNE KING. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY, EITHER. I STILL HAVEN'T PAPER. I'M HOPING FRED PETERSON . HE WAS OUR JUNE PHOTO. OKAY THIS GUY'S OH, WOW. BE CAREFUL THIS STUFF. FOR IT. I KNOW. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY THAT WAS SO NOW I NEED THAT WAS JUNE, RIGHT? UM ANESTHESIA. I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WAS YOUR IN. BEAUTIFUL SHEPHERD. THESE PICTURES REALLY ARE BEAUTIFUL, AND WE JUST CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH FOR AUGUST. WE HAD CARL

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YOU'RE JUMPING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANKS. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. OKAY WELL, THANK YOU. EVERYONE LET EVERYBODY LET THEM CLEAR OUT.

THANK YOU. BY MOVING FORWARD TO THIS PLACE THAT YES, THE PREVIEWS. I'VE GOT IT. DID YOU START READING THIS, OKAY? YEAH EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE IT. SO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS

[4. COMMERCIAL & INDUSTRIAL ZONING BY KEVIN CROWDER WITH BUSINESSFLARE]

BRING IN THAT AREA ARE REALLY SPECIAL TO US, SOUTH ARCADIA, AND SO WE ACTUALLY RECENTLY OPENED AN OFFICE HERE IN STUART AS WELL. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES. UM, THIS IN THIS AREA AND OUT TO THE WEST. UM, BUT WE DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

REAL ESTATE ANALYSIS. URBAN DESIGN PLACE MAKING, REALLY WORKED, WORKED TO TRY AND HELP PLACES BECOME PLACES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE YOUR OR STAY PLACES THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE. UM AND SO AS IT WAS MENTIONED, WE LOOK TO SEE YOU KNOW, JUST AN ASSESSMENT OF YOUR INDUSTRIAL SPACE, YOUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL MANUFACTURING FOR THAT TYPE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP. UM THAT TOP TYPE OF JOB SUPPORT. UM AND AS PART OF OUR FIRMS ALSO ENGAGED, WORKING WITH MARTIN COUNTY ON THE INNOVATION HUB, WHICH WHICH YOU'LL SEEMAP OF TOF THE PRESENTATION. JUST A FEW OF THE KEY POINTS ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL MARKET IN STUART. UM ABOUT 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET.

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LET'S JUST GO FORWARD. I THINK THERE WERE CASES OF THAT WE SAW THAT A LOT IN OFFICE MARKETS. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE SAW IN SOME CASES WAS PEOPLE. SPACE MAY BECOMING AVAILABLE EVEN THROUGH SUBLEASING, BUT PEOPLE NOT GIVING UP THEIR MASTER LEASE ON SPACE. BECAUSE OF UNCERTAINTY FOR THE FUTURE. THAT WAS THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE WITH OFFICE SPACE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF OFFICE SPACE THAT'S OCCUPIED TECHNICALLY UNDER RELEASE, BUT THE JOBS AND THE EMPLOYEES HAVEN'T NECESSARILY COME BACK TO THAT SPACE. JUST A SNAPSHOT OF THE OVERALL OVERALL METHODS. AS I MENTIONED ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN MARTIN COUNTY IS IN THE CITY OF STEWART. BUT IT IS OLDER, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OF NEW, ESPECIALLY LOGISTICS AND DISTRIBUTION, AND THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES ARE HAPPENING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A HIGHER RENTAL RATES NOW YOUR RENTAL RATES EVEN HERE FOR THE OLDER STOCK $14. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE HEALTHY IF YOU COME DOWN IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA, WHERE IN THE TENS AND $11 SQUARE FOOT BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENCES WERE IN CAPITAL CAPITALIZATION RATES THAT ARE IN THE FIVES. WHEREAS HERE YOU'RE IN THE HIGH SIXES. YOU ARE LOWER THAN THE BALANCE OF THE COUNTY. UM SO ALL OF THAT TELLS US THAT THAT THERE THERE IS DEMAND THERE AND THERE'S A STRONG, YOU KNOW, INVESTOR VIEW OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN STUART. IT'S JUST THE OPPORTUNITY IS REALLY LIMITED. UM, FOR NEW INVENTORY FOR THAT FOR THAT TURNOVER. UM ONE THING THAT IS OUT THERE THAT'S PLANNED THAT HAS TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH. THE PROCESS IS OFF OF WILLOUGHBY IS BUT AGAIN BEING POSITIONED MORE AS A SORT OF LOGISTICS AND WAREHOUSING AND THAT TYPE OF SPACE, BUT BUT IT IS OF PLAN TO BE OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND VERY CUSTOMIZABLE. SO YOU COULD HAVE A SMALL USER. IT COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR A SMALL USER, BUT THAT THINGS THAT IT'S NOT AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET.

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I'M SORRY. YOU SAY THERE'S VERY LITTLE INDUSTRIAL SPACE FOR SALE. IF WE LOOK AT THE MARKET RANGE IN THE CITY VERSUS THE COUNTY, I MEAN, WE ARE DRAMATICALLY LOWER. BOTH IN RENT AND IN SALE PRICE SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE COUNTY APPARENTLY. THERE'S VERY LITTLE SUPPLY BECAUSE THOSE PRICES ARE INDICATING THERE. IT'S JUST NEWER. WHAT PART OF THE PART THAT'S RIGHT. PART OF IT IS YOU SEE, THE VACANCY IN THE COUNTY IS ONLY 5% AS WELL. IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN HERE IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY LOW, AND THAT'S THAT'S ALMOST A MARGIN OF ERROR. I MEAN, THAT'S YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT SORT OF TURNOVER AND JUST IN GENERAL OPERATION OF SPACE. YOU KNOW, 5% AND LOWER IS YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER FULL ARC EFFECTIVELY FULL, CORRECT, CORRECT AND THEY'RE RENTING IN THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO BE NEWER SPACE SPACE. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE USERS THAT ARE THERE ARE LOOKING FOR, AND SO THAT'S GONNA THAT'S GONNA BRING THOSE REDS HIGHER. THERE ARE WHAT WE WOULD CALL SOME OPPORTUNITIES SITES IN YOUR AREAS THAT ARE ZONED BEFORE WHICH HAS MANUFACTURING AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL, UM, THE ONES THAT THAT MIGHT BE MORE REALISTIC ARE ONES THAT ARE ALONG COMMERCE IN IN THE INNOVATION HUB. UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER SOME OTHER AREAS , BUT THEY'RE OCCUPIED. THEY'RE NOT THINGS THAT WOULD BE NEAR TERM THINGS. I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE THE RINKER SITE, UM, WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD FIT THAT. BUT IT'S NOT A SITE THAT'S GOING TO TURN OVER WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT MARKET SHIFTS THAT MAKE IT MAKE IT WORTH TURNING OVER THAT SORT OF OPERATION. AND SO WHAT THAT DOES DO IS BRING US TO THE INNOVATION HUB AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE YELLOW OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS THE OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT COULD BE OPPORTUNITY SITES. THERE'S A LOT OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE INNOVATION HUB THIS SO OKAY. YOU DO THE INNOVATION HUB IF YOU COULD JUST FILL, UH ARE YOU COMMISSIONERS AND ON THE INNOVATION HUB? SURE, CERTAINLY.

UM SO THE COUNTY DURING COVID LOOKED IN AND ENGAGED US TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF CODE AND ONE OF THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF INNOVATION HAPPENING IN MARTIN COUNTY. IT'S KIND OF SCATTERED. IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THAT IS HAPPENING. ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS ASKED ME AND WE STARTED LOOKING. YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS AN INNOVATION DISTRICT. WHERE WOULD IT BE? WE DID A PATENT SEARCH AND WE FOUND, UH, THE BULK OF THE CLUSTER OF PATENTS WERE HAPPENING DOWN HERE IN THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA JUST SOUTH OF THE CITY. THAT OLDER INDUSTRIAL AREA OFF OF COMMERCE SORT OF, UH, I GUESS SOUTH OF MONROE. IN THAT AREA. AND SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT WE SAID OKAY, WELL, THAT AREA FROM THE AIRPORT DOWN TO THE WORKING WATERFRONT SEEMS TO BE WHERE A LOT OF THIS INNOVATION THAT'S HAPPENING EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE IT HAPPENING IN NORTH STEWART, YOU HAVE TO HAVE HAPPENING IN JENSEN BEACH. YOU HAVE AN AG TECH INNOVATION HAPPENING NOW IN THE WESTERN MARTIN COUNTY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE NOW WORKING ON IS THE PROGRAM FOR THE INNOVATION HUB, WHICH IS THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU SEE, WHICH INCLUDES. PART OF THE CITY OF STEWART INCLUDES PART OF THE GLOBE ENGAGED CRE INCLUDES PART OF THE PORCELAIN OCR A AS WELL AS OTHER UNINCORPORATED PARTS. IT REALLY IS WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE THERE AT THE TOP. IT'S A PLACE THAT'S A GATHERING SPACE FOR ENTREPRENEURS FOR BUSINESSES FOR INNOVATORS PLACE TO CREATE WHAT WE CALL THIRD PLACES. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT AT WORK, YOU'RE NOT AT YOUR HOME. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE? IN HIS PLACES WHERE YOU CREATE COLLISIONS AND ENGAGEMENTS BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT OTHERWISE MEET, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT INNOVATION HAPPENS. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PLACE MAKING TO IT. UM SOME OF OUR JUST SORT OF OUR INSPIRATIONAL IMAGES OF FOUR IT IS AGAIN. THOSE THOSE COWORKING SPACES. UM INNOVATIVE, YOU KNOW, WET LABS OR PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN MAKE HER SPACE THAT TYPE OF THING. PUBLIC AREAS, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN CAN AGAIN ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER. PLACE THAT INNOVATORS ENTREPRENEURS WANT TO COME AND CLUSTER AROUND EACH OTHER. AND ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT WE IDENTIFIED. THIS AREA IS AS WE STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THIS DISTRICT. THAT'S WHAT WAS ALREADY HAPPENING. YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN ONE INDUSTRY COULD BE AVIATION. IT COULD EVEN BE AUTOMOTIVE THAT FINDS A PROPELLER MANUFACTURER IN THIS DISTRICT THAT CAN CREATE A COOLING SYSTEM ESSENTIALLY FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON OUTSIDE OF THEIR TRADITIONAL INDUSTRY. AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING TO FOSTER HERE. AND SO AS YOU CAN. SORRY, I'M HITTING THE WRONG BUTTON. THE ON

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INVESTMENT AND ACTIVITY INTO THE CITY AND INNOVATION HUB. OKAY? COMMISSIONER PARK. YEAH SO I THINK WE ALL SAW YOUR SUMMARY AND, UH BUT AND THIS WAS MOSTLY JUST PROPERTY, THE USE OF PROPERTY AND THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO INDUSTRIAL UM. DO YOU KNOW IF WHEN YOU GOT GATHERED YOUR DATA DID YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF WORKERS OR ANYTHING WITHIN THAT ZONE? AND DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE REPORT PER SE, UNLESS I MISSED IT, BUT IF WE COULD KNOW THE NUMBER OF WORKERS, OF COURSE BETWEEN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE WHAT THE BDB STILL GIVING US SOME WORK. WE GIVE THEM $25,000, RIGHT? YEAH SO, YEAH. MAYBE WE CAN GET A LITTLE SOMETHING WITH THE BDB BETWEEN THE BDB AND YOURSELF TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF HOW MANY KINDS TYPES OF WORKERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY WORK, EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE HERE, THE TYPE OF SKILLED WORKERS OR ON SCALE, WHATEVER IN SOME OF THAT INNOVATION ZONE THAT'S IN OUR AREA, AS WELL AS EVEN FURTHER FOR THE SOUTH. BUT OF COURSE WE'RE INTERESTED IN IN THE AREA THAT PROBABLY ENDS AT DOMINICAN TERRORISTS WERE WHERE DO WE END DOWN THERE IN INDUSTRIAL PARKER IN THE LETTER, SLATER OKAY, THAT'S LATER. YES SO I'D LOVE TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF WORKERS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT INDUSTRIAL FRAMEWORK. I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE UM, I'D CALL IT PRISON PRECISION DESIGN. THERE'S A LOT OF ALLOY TYPE MANUFACTURERS ALONG THAT AREA. AND, OF COURSE, GOING BACK TO THE OLD DAYS WHEN WE HAVE, UM GRANDMA, WHICH HAS CHANGED NAMES, TOO. WHAT TRIUMPH NOW IT'S DARE OR DIRE PRODUCTION.

HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE IT DOT? YEAH YEAH, TH E R SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOWEVER YOU PRONOUNCE IT BUT JUST TO GET AN IDEA THAT WE COULD SAY AND EVEN WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON OUR VISION IN AND OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA THAT THESE ARE OUR

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YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. SO DAVID, ESPECIALLY MICHELLE HAS JUST BEEN GREAT AND GETTING THIS THROUGH AND HELPING SHEPHERD IT AND HELPING US A LOT, ESPECIALLY , YOU KNOW, AS WE YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND IT'S EVEN BETTER. YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET HERE, AND WE'RE WHERE IMMERSING OURSELVES BUT THEN TOOK TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US THAT SPECIFIC LOCAL KNOWLEDGE IS VALUABLE AND ESSENTIAL. PART OF DOING THIS SORT OF ANALYSIS IS THAT MICHELLE BURGER, WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING THANK YOU, MISS. THANK YOU, MR BERGER. SO THIS IS A INFORMATIONAL ITEM. UNLESS WE HAVE ANYTHING OTHER COMMENTS.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE SOME SO I WANTED TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS. FOR ME. SOME OF THE MORE RECENT LAND USE CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL WAS EGREGIOUS. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU WOULD.

OH, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. YOUR REPORT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BUT THAT THERE ARE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO WORK AND THAT WE'RE NOT. THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON HOUSING A LOT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. FOR KEEPING THAT BALANCE WHERE WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO WORK. DO YOU HAVE SOME SENSE OF I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT WHAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TYPE SPACES WHERE IN THE HIGHEST DEMAND GO BACK AND LOOK, IT'S THE HIGHEST DEMAND AGAIN THAT WE THAT WE SAW IN THOSE VERY LARGE USERS. ONCE WE GET OUT OF THAT. IT'S REALLY A THREE AND SAY AROUND 3 TO 6000 SQUARE FEET FOR SOME OF THE NEW USERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO COME IN EXPANSIONS OF EXISTING USES ANOTHER CHALLENGE, AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA JUST SOUTH OF YOU. THAT HAVE LOOKED FOR EXPANDED HAD TO EXPAND FIVE BLOCKS AWAY AND JUST GRABBED 10,000 SQUARE FEET IF IT CAME AVAILABLE, AND SO IT'S CLOSER TO THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT ON THE EXPANSION SIDE, OR AT LEAST THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN BEEN HEARING AND BEING TOLD FOR ME. AH! SO I'LL GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN 39 MY AGE WENT TO SCHOOL FOR SERVICE AND COMPUTER RELATED JOBS, BUT I REALLY SEE THE FUTURE AS TRADES. THERE ARE. COUNTLESS PEOPLE MY AGE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN A RANCH.

THEY CAN'T FIX ANYTHING. YOU CAN'T FIX A CAR. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE ECONOMICALLY. THE COST OF HAVING SOMEBODY COME POLISHED TERRAZZO IS MORE THAN GOING TO THE DOCTOR, SO THEY'RE STARTING TO BE THE SHIFT AND I WANT TO SEE STUART. BE AS PREPARED FOR THAT AS POSSIBLE BY PROTECTING YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THOSE LARGER SPACES BUT MAKING OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALLER INDUSTRIAL SPACE FOR ENTREPRENEURIAL TYPES WHO WANT TO OPEN A TERRORISM POLISHING PLACE OR DO WORK ON BOATS. HIGHLY SKILLED, YOU KNOW, TECHNICAL TYPE WORK. IT'S PROFITABLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, GOING FORWARD. LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU WHAT YOU PUT TOGETHER HERE. THANK YOU. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO TRADES, AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TRADES, AND WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE AGREE. WE SEE TRADES AS AS A KEY JOBS OF THE FUTURE AND NOT JUST NOT JOBS. BUT I THINK YOU REFERENCED THIS TRADES ARE SOME OF THE STRONGEST ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES OF THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S PLACES THAT YOU DON'T JUST COME IN AND HAVE TO DO JUST THE TRADE. YOU CAN REALLY INNOVATE AND BRING NEW IDEAS TO THAT. AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU ALREADY SEE HERE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE HERE. ONE THING THAT WE DID SEE IS WHEN WE WERE DOING THE FIRST PROJECT WITH THE COUNTY AND WE RAN THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS FOR THE TRADES BASED TYPES OF BUSINESSES. EVEN IF THEY WERE OPERATING MARTIN COUNTY. THEY HAD TO HAVE A BTR THAT WAS WHEREVER THEY WERE, AND WE SAW A LOT OF CROSS COUNTY MOVEMENT A LOT OF TRADES COMING FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY. AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT SORT OF ENTREPRENEURIAL GROWTH HERE IN EXACTLY AND I THINK THAT THE, UH, WITH WITHIN THE TRADES AS

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BUILD THE BUILDINGS. THAT THEY'RE RESPONDING TO THE DEMAND FOR. OUR JOB UP HERE REALLY IS TO CREATE POLICY. SO IN LIGHT AND THE MAYOR MCDONALD YOU SORT OF HINTED AT THIS WITH YOUR REMARKS, WHICH I THOUGHT WERE SENSIBLE. SO IN LIGHT OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AND LIMITATIONS YOU SAW, AND YOU DESCRIBED HERE . WHAT POLICIES CAN WE PUT IN PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS EVALUATE THE OPPORTUNITY SITES AND IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS TO HAVING THAT SORT OF PRIVATE SECTOR DEPLOYMENT OF CAPITAL TO DEVELOPING THOSE SITES, AND THERE ARE THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE BALANCED IN ORDER TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, A SUCCESSFUL BRAND OF SUCCESSFUL CITY. WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE REGULATORY EFFICIENCY. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT BOTH MAKE THE PROJECT WORK AND PROTECT YOUR COMMUNITIES CHARACTER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE MARKET AND FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OR NO ONE'S GOING TO INVEST IN IT, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IDENTITY AND BRAND THAT MAKES IT WORK IN THE MARKETPLACE. AND SO THAT'S AS YOU LOOK AT THESE OPPORTUNITY SITES AND WE DO A LOT OF THIS IN LOOKING AT THAT WHERE WE DO WE CALL IT FIT MEN AND FEASIBILITY. WHAT YOU SEE, A LOT OF THE TIMES HAPPENS, PEOPLE WILL GO DO ZONING OR PEOPLE WILL GO DO A FEASIBILITY FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY STUDY. OR THEY'LL DO A MARKETING STUDY AND IT JUST KIND OF SITS THERE. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE BRING THEM TOGETHER. UM, AND MY ARCHITECT AND SITE PLANNER AND DESIGNERS WILL BE PLANNING LOOKING AT THE CODE WAS THE CODE SAYING THEY'LL BE PLANNING AS WE'RE DOING DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATING PRO FORM AS WITH IT, AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. THOSE THREE PIECES AS THEY RELATE TO THESE OPPORTUNITIES SITES TO THE REGS WORK DOES THE MARKET WORK? I THINK WE SEE THAT THE MARKET WORKS, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO TEST IT FOR EACH SITE. DOES IT PENCIL OUT FOR A DEVELOPER TO BE WILLING TO DEPLOY THEIR CAPITAL? AND THEN HOW DO WE MARKET IN BRANDED SO THAT THAT WHOEVER BUILDS IT CAN POPULATE IT WITH THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WERE TARGETING? SO MR DICE YOU INDICATED THAT YOU HE ACTUALLY HAS A FAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. SO ARE THOSE ELEMENTS INCLUDED IN THAT ONE. OR IT ARE YOU SAYING WE HAVE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP HERE? HE HE HAS SOME INTERESTING SITE PLANS DOWN THE INNOVATION DISTRICT THAT I'VE SEEN, UM, THAT COULD WORK. IT'D BE REQUIRE SOME SOME ACTION BY THE COMMISSION TO MAKE IT WORK BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE PROPERTY AND SOME OF ITS OTHER PROPERTIES, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY LIKE THE BACK SIDE OF A CAR DEALERSHIP AND THAT SORT OF THING, SO IT WOULD TAKE A COOPERATIVE EFFORT, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY AN INTERESTING SITE PLAN TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE OR INDUSTRIAL SPACE AND THE INNOVATION DISTRICT DOWN THERE. RIGHT SO THERE'S SITE PLANNING THAT FITS. WHAT'S WHAT CAN BE BUILT UNDER YOUR CURRENT CODE RIGHT? FINANCIAL MODELING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH IT.

THERE'S ONE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY. UM, WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO REAL ESTATE. UM CITIES IN GENERAL, AND IT'S A POLICY THAT YOUR POLICY DECISION IS HOW

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CITIES CAN BE FACILITATORS OF REAL ESTATE, AND THAT'S USUALLY IF YOU HAVE A C R A OR YOU HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE AGAIN TRYING TO FACILITATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED THOSE THOSE MEET UPS WITH THOSE THOSE THAT MATCHMAKING BETWEEN OPPORTUNITIES AND INVESTORS AND BUSINESSES. BUT THEN YOU DO HAVE A THIRD WHERE CITIES OPERATE AS PARTICIPANTS IN REAL ESTATE, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS COME IN. COME IN. WHERE YOU'RE TARGETING. A SPECIFIC PUBLIC PURPOSE TO PARTICIPATE DIRECTLY IN REAL ESTATE. SO THE INNOVATION HUB IS NOT IN THE SIERRA. CORRECT NO, RIGHT. OKAY, THAT, OKAY? OKAY, SO, UM. ACTUALLY SORT OF THE LIMITATION IN A WAY BECOMES THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY SITES WHERE WE CAN BE PROACTIVE, CORRECT. SO FOR US TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY TAKE A MORE ACTIVE VIEW OF WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WILL NOT BE THAT OVERWHELMING. NO. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PROCEED THERE, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY ALL IN AGREEMENT. WOULD YOU DO? WE NEED TO EXTEND ONE MORE. ONE MORE THOUGHT IS ALL RIGHT. LINDSEY BEING CAREFUL NOT TO DRIVE UP THE COST OF LAND. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS EASY TO LOSE SIGHT OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIAL SPACE. YOU KNOW , ONE OF THOSE PUSH BACKS IS GOING TO BE THE LAND IS TOO EXPENSIVE, RIGHT IF YOU CAN PUT HUNDREDS OF RENTAL APARTMENTS ON THAT SAME SPACE, WHY WOULD YOU BUILD INDUSTRIAL SO MAKING SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR LAND USE AND ZONING? OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SPACE, BUT ALSO TO SOME EXTENT COMMERCIAL, NOT JUST CHANGING LAND USE. WOULD YOU AGREE? BECAUSE IF YOU CHASE WHATEVER IS THE HIGHEST, YOU KNOW. SQUARE FOOT OF DIRT. CARRY OUT PRICE. ULTIMATELY YOU END UP DRIVING UP ALL THE COST OF YOUR INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL SPACE. IF IT CAN BE FLIPPED, RIGHT AND WE'RE NOT WE DON'T LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN, WHEN, SO A LOT OF TIMES, AND SOMETIMES I THINK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GETS CONFUSED WITH MAYBE SOME OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OR OUR HIGHEST AND BEST USE BEST USE JUST AS A CONCEPT OF YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF A REGULATORY STRUCTURE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PURSUE. LIKE I SAID, WE SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS CREATED A PLACE . PEOPLE WANT TO BE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO INVEST WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO ENJOY. YOU KNOW THEIR TIME IN ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EITHER WHERE THEY WORK OR OR WERE THEY WERE THEY PLAY OR AND SUCH, AND SO WE DON'T LOOK AT A SITE AND SAY, WELL, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT RESIDENTIAL SITE. LET'S GO REZONING. YOU COULD DO THAT WITH EVERY PROPERTY ALONG ALONG THE WATERFRONT THROUGHOUT FLORIDA. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WHAT? WHAT HOW AGAIN? WHAT'S THAT BALANCE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED TO STRIKE? AND HOW DO WE TELL THE STORY OF INNOVATION? AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT OPPORTUNITY AND BECAUSE BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE AND TRYING TO JUST GO AFTER CHASING JUST RESIDENTIAL IS YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE CRITICAL MASS THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE AND YOU HAVE SO MANY AND THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WE SIT WHEN WE START THESE PROJECTS, AND WE LITERALLY GO ONTO GOOGLE MAPS AND WE CLICK ON THE WEBSITE OF EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IN THAT DISTRICT. AND YOU'D BE AMAZED AT WHAT YOU FIND THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE THAT ALREADY HAPPENING. AND SO YOU KNOW, GROWTH FOR GROWTH'S SAKE IS NOT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH. COULDN'T AND THAT'S WHAT JUST CHASING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST RETURN IS THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IN AN ENVIRONMENT AGAIN THAT BALANCE OF THE FEASIBILITY AND THE REGULATORY EFFICIENCY IN THE BRAND. THAT ATTRACTS. YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO GET IT THE WAY YOU GET IT AND CAN MAKE IT WORK THE WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE RECENTLY WE WERE AND IT MAY COME BEFORE US AGAIN. BUT SELFISH K OVER ON CENTRAL PARKWAY THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS IS CHANGING THAT LAND USE FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND THAT WAS PART OF MY THOUGHT. PROCESSES WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SOME COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT WE HAVE LEFT. BECAUSE PART OF THE BRAND STEWART IS THE SMALL TOWN RIGHT IF WE SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT BY OVER, DEVELOPING, WE KIND OF KILL OUR BRAND ON SOME LEVEL. WOULD YOU ECHO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU KILL YOUR BRAND. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ARE THE THINGS THAT IMPACT YOUR PLACE GROUND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST. HIGHEST DOLLAR AMOUNT PER PROPERTY VERSUS TRULY HIGHEST AND BEST USE ON ANOTHER METRIC WE'RE ON, INCLUDING MORE METRICS, AND JUST SO IN THAT I NATURAL YES, BUT WHAT I WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I COULDN'T SAY BLANKET ACROSS THE GUARDIANS OF THE LAND USE CHANGE, RIGHT, SO RIGHT, AND I COULDN'T SAY ACROSS THE BOARD. I THINK IT'S I THINK THE SITE SPECIFIC YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT STRATEGIC PLANNING.

YOU'VE GOT PRIORITIZATION YOU'VE GOT TO DO. AND SO WHAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN THE INNOVATION HUB THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP? THIS LAND CAN'T APPLY THAT. TO ANY OTHER SIDE AND STUART THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH FROM THAT MORE OF A BIG PICTURE . I CAN JUST JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. I THINK LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE OVER AT THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT

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ACTUALLY I'M SORRY FROM THEM PUTTING THEIR APPLICATION AND WE ANNEXED THE LITTLE PIECE OF THE PROPERTY. IT WASN'T IN THE CITY . WE DID THE LAND USE CHANGE TO INDUSTRIAL. WE DID THE P U. D.

AND AT THE SAME TIME WE ALLOWED THEM COMMERCIAL. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? IT WAS IT WAS. I DON'T THINK THAT SOME OF IT DIDN'T HAVE THAT WITH SOME OLD LAND USES FROM THE COUNTY. UM BUT WE HAD TO BE INDUSTRIAL. THAT WAS DEFINITELY AN INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT THAT THEY WERE CREATING. BUT SO WE HAD TO DO A LAND USE CHANGE. WE HAVE TO DO A P U D. WE HAD TO DO AN ANNEXATION AND WE ALLOWED THEM TO DO THEIR BUILDING PERMITS. WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WAS NOW THAT WAS AT THEIR OWN RISK IN CASE BECAUSE THEY WERE SPENDING MONEY ON BUILDING PERMITS THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO USE, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION 135 DAYS AFTER THEY E DID THEIR, UM INITIAL APPLICATION, AND THAT'S WHAT UM INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS THERE IN THIS DIFFERENT LONG TERM KIND OF PLANNING WITH HOW POPULATION IS GOING TO HAVE WHATEVER THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO JUST KIND OF TRICKLE INTO THEIR PRODUCT, WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE LIKE WE HAVE. WE NEED TO MOVE. WE NEED TO. WE HAVE AN EXPANSION FOR OUR BUSINESS AND THIS STATE AND WE NEED TO BE HERE NOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR CUSTOMERS ARE. SO DOES THAT HELP ? OKAY, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. OH IT'S BEEN SO LONG. I THINK I DID TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE BDB AND THE YES. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT, OR ARE WE GOING TO JUST LEAVE THE INFORMATION INCORPORATED WHEN WE DO OUR ZIP ZONE IN ANOTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA . AND IF HE DOES HAVE A CONTRACT TO CONTINUE ANYTHING ELSE I JUST WANTED TO, UM MAKE SURE THAT, UH WE, UM. WE DO IF I DON'T THINK WE CAN'T DO ANY BLANKET POLICIES ABOUT CHANGING LAND USE, BUT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING US A GUIDANCE AND THEN INFORMATION THAT'S THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT WE'RE WE CAN NEVER CHANGE RESIDENTIAL TO INDUSTRIAL OR WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA KEEP INDUSTRIAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR SAME THING WITH COMMERCIAL. BUT, UM UH, TROY SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN DOWN MY QUESTION. THE OTHER TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ABOUT THE BDB AND THE NUMBER OF WORKERS ALREADY ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS.

BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE SAYING WHILE YOU WERE, UM, PRESENTED AGAIN, BUT WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE ENJOYED THIS. THIS IS OUT OF ALL THE TYPES OF WORK WE DO. THIS IS WHAT WE ENJOY THE MOST. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

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GIVE SO. OLD. IT'S ANYWAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK EVERYBODY FOR A GOOD YEAR, I LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER PROSPEROUS YEAR FOR EVERYONE, UM , COUPLE OF THINGS. I JUST WANT THE TOUCH BASE ON AND I'LL GO QUICK AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO MENTION ALICE LOCKHART. I BELIEVE THAT HER, UH MEMORIAL SERVICE IS GOING TO BE JANUARY. 7TH. YES? AND UH AND I WILL BE THERE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. SHE WAS A JUST IMPORTANT PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF US THAT NEWER UM, ALSO, WE HAD A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS PARADE THIS YEAR. I THINK THAT BY FAR THE BIGGEST PRODUCT THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THERE IT WAS ABSOLUTELY HUGE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAD SHOP WITH A COP AND ENDS UP WITH THE FIRE. THE FIREMEN AS WELL, I KNOW SATURDAY AT WALMART AND I WENT OVER AND GOT TO SEE SOME OF THESE CHILDREN AND THEY EACH GOT $200 TO SPEND ON CHRISTMAS GIFTS AND THAT WAS TAX EXEMPT. SO THEY REALLY GOT SO THEY YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S REALLY AMAZING. AND THIS IS THESE ARE KIDS THAT ARE THAT DON'T HAVE MUCH. AND OVER AND OVER. I HEARD FROM THAT THEIR PURCHASES WERE FURTHER BROTHERS OR SISTERS OR THEIR PARENTS MORE FURTHER OTHERS THAN NOT FROM THEMSELVES. SO I THINK THAT'S A LESSON THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE KIDS, I THINK, REALLY GET IT RIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY NICE. UM AND SO I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT ON.

THAT IS THAT'S A HAPPY NOTE, AND, UH AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A FABULOUS, FABULOUS CHRISTMAS SO FAR AND NEW YEAR AND I WISH EVERYBODY MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY HANUKKAH. HAPPY NEW YEAR ARE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR US. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YOU CAN GO NEXT. YOU ALREADY WANTING TO EITHER ONE OF YOU GO. YOU'RE I KNOW YOU'RE I'LL JUST I'LL START WITH YOUR WITH YOUR HAPPY STUFF. THEN I JUST NOTICED THAT WITH JUST INVITATIONS AND EVEN THE CHILDREN AND EVEN COMING UP PREPARING FOR THE MIRACLE ON 10TH STREET ON THE 17TH OF DECEMBER, UM, THAT THERE WERE KIND OF GAINING THE CHRISTMAS BIRD A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE ECONOMY OR IF IT'S JUST OUR COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SAD THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I CAN JUST SEE THAT SOME, I'M JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I DIDN'T MENTION IN THAT AND ENLIST INTO THE, UM INDUSTRIAL REPORT. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE ALONG WITH THE CHRISTMAS PARADE AND THE LIGHTING OF THE TREES IN MEMORIAL PARK AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAD THEIR ANNUAL UM, MEET IN AND I'M JUST GOING TO EXAGGERATE RIGHT NOW, BUT I PROBABLY DID NOT KNOW NOT ONE PERSON IN THAT ROOM. THAT'S JUST TO TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE NEW BUSINESSES COMING INTO MARTIN COUNTY IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY ON THE AVERAGE, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL THERE. WE ALL HAD TABLES. WE KNEW A LOT OF FRIENDS. WE KNOW THAT WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, BUT THERE WERE SO MANY NEW AND UNIQUE TYPE OF BUSINESSES COMING INTO MARTIN COUNTY. AND YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS AND JUST PEOPLE, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE INTERESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE INCLUDED. AND THIS IS NOT JUST STEWART. IT'S ALL OF MARTIN

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THAT WAS FOR YOU, CHIEF AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WORKING HARD. UM AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT ALICE LOCKHART. ALICE WAS JUST NOT A HISTORIC FIGURE IN TERMS OF THE VINEYARDS AND THE HISTORY PART THAT SHE PLAYED THAT THE STEWART MUSEUM AND WITH OUR TROLLEY GOING AROUND TOWN, HELPING WITH VARIOUS WALKS AND TALKS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEPING THAT SPIRIT OF OUR COMMUNITY, SHE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN RESEARCH IN PEOPLE WHO WE'VE GIVEN AWARDS TWO, MEANING THAT WE'VE PUT PLAQUES AT OUR MEMORIAL PARK AND ALSO IN OUR GAZEBO PARK TO HONOR PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY, AND ALICE HAS BEEN THE BACKBONE OF THAT, AND I LIKE WHETHER IT'S MR BERGER. WHOEVER, UM MAYOR IF OR IF WE HAVE TO AGREE TO IT AS A COMMISSION, BUT I'D REALLY ASKED IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION, MR MORTAL. YOU CAN TELL ME. UM I ASKED THAT OUR CITY WORKS HARD WITH THIS, STUART, UM, SUPPLY AND ANY OTHER HISTORIC ORGANIZATION OR INTERESTED PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THE YEAR. AND AT LEAST BY JANUARY, WHEN WE HAVE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR ALICE TO SEE IF THE CITY OF STEWART CAN DO SOMETHING TO HONOR HER PUBLICLY, UM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT AND TREE FOR OKAY, SOMETHING, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO IDEAS OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. OKAY, SO TREATMENT CAN WE DO A TRADE FOR OKAY, OKAY TO PLANT A TREE IN HONOR OF ALL ALLISON TREE FOR ALICE. WHAT HEART EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT YOU'RE SAYING IN MAYOR'S PARK IN THE IN THE LITTLE MAYORS PARKER SOMEPLACE WE'LL FIND A PLACE MAYBE VINEGAR PARK OR THERE MIGHT BE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SHE WAS KIND OF INSTRUMENTAL WITH US YEARLY ON SELECTING THE VETERAN THAT WENT ON OUR PLATFORM.

THERE'S SOMETHING IN THAT VICINITY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND UM, SO I'D LOVE I'D LOVE LOVE US TO DO THAT. THE OTHER THING I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ISSUES HERE WITH REGARD OR OR OR ZONING AND LAND USE AND THE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT WERE COMING UP WITH FOR THE IS STUART NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THOSE ARE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. WHAT I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO ME AND ASKED ME ESPECIALLY ABOUT ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH AH, THE ACTUAL I'M NOT. I'M GONNA MESS THIS UP GIARDINA THE PLAN THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR EXPANSION, THE ACTUAL PARK IN IN A 10 STREETS THAT SOMEHOW WE COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE BUILDING THAT YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO WHERE YOU CAN RENT IT FOR AN EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND OR EVEN IN THE EVENING. AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BUILDING. YOU GET A KEY TO IT. YOU HAVE A SEPARATE BATHROOM OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO SO IF WE HAVE TO EXPAND OR GO UPSTAIRS AND WHATEVER PLANS THAT ARE THERE NOW, BUT I'VE JUST BEEN I'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE TALK TO ME, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE

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IT WAS GOING WESTBOUND BECAUSE IT WAS SO NARROW. SO THAT'S BEEN OPENED UP. I THINK CLOSE TO FIVE FT, BUT IT DOES. IT DOES GO BACK TO NORMAL VEHICLE LANE SIZE. AS SOON AS YOU COME AROUND THAT CURVE, IT WAS THE CURVE THAT WAS MISLEADING PEOPLE INTO THEIR VISUALS. AND THEN, UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S CROSSWALKS NOW ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TRACKS BRICK PAVER CROSSWALKS THERE THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY I DON'T THINK WE INTENDED DID IT? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THOSE. UM SO THAT WAS ON IT. YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF SO THAT THAT'S GONNA BELIEVE A FULL INTERSECTION IS COMPLETE. MILTON IS THAT CORRECT IS YOU KNOW IF THE PARKING AREA ON THE PARKSIDE IS COMPLETE TO ARE THEY STILL OKAY, SO THAT'S COMPLETE TO YESTERDAY? YEAH IT TURNED OUT VERY NICE. AND THE LIGHTS THAT ARE ALL BEING PUT IN DOWNTOWN. GET OUT AND DRIVE AT NIGHT IF YOU GET A CHANCE. UP AND DOWN COLORADO AND EAST OCEAN AND THEN IN FRONT OF THE MEMORIAL PARK. THERE'S SOME NEW OF CHRISTMAS ORNAMENTS, GIANT ORNAMENTS THAT HAVE PUT OUT THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION IN OUR CITY. THIS TIME OF YEAR. WE GET SO MANY THAT COME FROM ALL OVER EVEN YOU KNOW ALL AROUND THE WORLD TO OUR BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CITY AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT PRESENTATION. UM LET'S SEE WHAT OH, AND MOSTLY STAFF, I'D SAID SOMETHING EARLIER, BUT, UM, THE WAY THEY'VE YOU KNOW, JUST JUST , UM THEY'VE REMAINED STRONG AND FOCUSED TO THIS WHOLE YEAR AND FORGOTTEN US THROUGH SOME TOUGH TIMES. AND I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THAT, AND I'M HONORED TO BE THE CITY OF STEWART'S VICE MAYOR. IT'S UM IT'S REALLY A REAL TRUE HONOR. AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN I WANTED TO, UM THANK GOD POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE HAD A PRETTY TOUGH HERE ALSO, UM AND ALL YOUR MEN AND WOMEN CHIEF AND, UH, CHIEF FELICIAN, ALL YOUR MEN AND WOMEN. REALLY APPRECIATE THEM. UM WE GET SO MANY WONDERFUL EMAILS ABOUT CERTAIN PLACES IN OUR DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF THOSE COME FROM OUR TRAM SYSTEM. AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON DOWN HERE AND DOWNTOWN. STERLING PEOPLE TAKE A RIDE AND LEARN THE HISTORY. BUT I. YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO THE LAST TWO COMMISSIONERS.

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OKAY UM, BUT. AND ALSO OUR PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE US. I SHAKE UP. YOU'RE STILL BUT THE PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE US TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF PATIENCE AND NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, WE GET THROUGH IT AND WORK THROUGH OUR PROBLEMS CAUSED, UH MORE PROBLEMS, SO I HOPE THAT 2023 TO BE ONE OF THE GREATEST YEARS, BUT THE CITY OF STEWART AND I THANK YOU ALL AND THE AUDIENCE FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, VICKY COMMISSIONER CALLENS NEXT, SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO UM LAST WEEK WAS A. THE LAST WEEK OR SO. IT'S A TOUGH WEEK FOR POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS SO AND VICTIMS , SO I HOPE WE'RE ALL KEEPING THEM IN OUR PRAYERS. I KNOW MY FAMILY WAS PRAYING FOR THAT SWAT TRUCK WHEN THEY DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

BUT ALONG WITH ALICE LOCKHART. I HOPE YOU KNOW, AND HER FAMILY WERE ALL PRAYING FOR THE POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE VICTIMS. SO TONIGHT. BEYOND THAT , I WANTED TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT CLEAN WATER. I'VE GOT MY TURTLES , SEA TURTLE SOCKS ON THAT MY DAUGHTER'S GAVE ME SO IT'S TIME TO TALK CLEAN WATER. UM I KNOW FOR ALL OF US, IT'S TOP PRIORITY, AND I TAKE THIS. BEING UP HERE IS A SIGN THAT I SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS RIGHT? BUT I KNOW FOR ALL OF US. IT'S A TOP PRIORITY CITY OF STEWART IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED. BEING A PENINSULA TOUCHED ON THREE SIDES BY WATER. IT'S OUR IT IS OUR BRAND. WE TALKED ABOUT BRAND. IT'S OUR ECONOMY. AND I KNOW FOR ALL OF YOU WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY WE BUMPED IT UP TO NUMBER ONE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY LAST TIME. I SEE. I'VE REALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS A LOT. I SEE IT AS A TWO STEP PROCESS. STEP ONE. WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO DIG INTO WHICH IS DOING OUR PART WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SEPTIC TO SEWER IT'S HARD TO LOOK UPSTREAM. WHEN, UM WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY CLEANING UP OUR OWN BACKYARD. SO OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. WE HAVE GROWN TO 35% COMPLIANCE IN TERMS OF THE HOMES. IT COULD BE HOOKED UP SEPTIC TO SEWER THAT ARE AND THAT MEANS 65% OR NOT HOOKED UP , IT COULD BE PRIMARILY DUE TO COST MY GOAL, ALONG WITH STAFF HAS TO TRY TO CHAMPION A NEW CAMPAIGN. FOR THAT HOOK UP, AND A BIG PART OF THAT COMES FROM GRANTS AND MAKING IT MORE DOABLE FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON TO GET ON THE SUBJECT. THE SEWER SO AFTER LAST MEETING I REACHED OUT TO MISS THURLOW LIPID SH OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT BOARD. TO SEE IF THEY WERE BE WILLING TO MATCH SOME OF THE FUNDS LIKE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA. I GOT POINTED TO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE ALL KEEP UP WITH THIS, BUT IN THOSE SPRINGS LIKE CRYSTAL RIVER, THERE WAS GRANT MONEY SET ASIDE, SUBJECT TO SOURCE VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU LIVE ON SPRINGS. BUT, UM CHEAP, POINTED ME TO MISS ANGELA. NET OF THE DP FOR THE EP. AND THE 481 MILLION THAT WAS SET ASIDE BY GOVERNOR AROUND THE SANTIS. SPECIFICALLY THE WASTEWATER GRANTS PROGRAM AND, ACCORDING TO HER AND THIS IS ME SORT OF COMMUNICATING TO THE RESIDENCE BECAUSE OUR STAFFS ON IT SO JUST, YOU KNOW. NOT TRYING TO PUSH STAFF BECAUSE I ALREADY GOT IT UNDER CONTROL, BUT THEY'LL BE SOLICITING PROPOSALS AFTER NEXT AFTER SESSION NEXT YEAR, AND THAT SHOULD HAVE 115 MILLION AVAILABLE. FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER AND BE MAPS. ALSO SHE POINTED TO STATE REVOLVING FUNDS THAT OFFER LOW INTEREST LOANS, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF, AS WELL.

SO AH! THANKFULLY MISS JACKIE MAY WHO IS THE GRANTS GURU? ONCE I GOT SOME OF THE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE DP. I JUST CHECKED IN WITH HER, AND SHE SAID WE'RE ON IT. WE GOT THIS UNDER CONTROL. THANK YOU FOR CHECKING IN. I HOPE THAT WHEN SHE PREPARES HER SUMMARY FOR YOU WOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT TO US AS WELL. SOME VERSION OF THAT

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PEOPLE CANNOT FISH THEY CANNOT ENJOY EATING OUT OF THIS RIVER. THEY CANNOT RECREATE IT PROPERLY. AND IT IS A HUGE BLIGHT ON OUR CITY. I WILL GET TOO DEEP INTO A SOAPBOX THERE, BUT I SEE THAT. WE DESERVE A CONSENT DEGREE DECREE JUST LIKE THE EVERGLADES BECAUSE WE ARE OUR ESTUARY AND OUR ECOSYSTEM IS NO LESS VALUABLE. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND A WRAPPED AROUND BY THAT RIVER ARE NO LESS IMPORTANT. AND WE DESERVE THE SAME LEVEL OF PROTECTION UNDER

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WITH THAT. I'LL LET EVERYBODY FINISH YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WHETHER IT'S AT THE END OF COMMENTS OR FINAL COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT HIGHER UM GO ON FOR EARLY NEXT YEAR. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. MR RICH. WELL APPARENTLY, WATER IS ON THE MINDS OF THE TWO ON THIS SIDE OF THE DIETS HERE. FIRST OF ALL CONGRATULATIONS. MAYOR MCDONALD AND VICE MAYOR BRUNER. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE AND COMMITMENT GUIDING US. THROUGH NEXT YEAR. UM. I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD NEWS FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, WE DID CHANGE THAT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY AT OUR LAST MEETING TO MAKE WATER QUALITY AND SUSTAINABLE STANDARDS ARE TOP PRIORITY. BUT PERHAPS THAT. WHAT MANY SAID SYMBOLIC COMMITMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, AND I'M REFERRING TO THIS ARTICLE THAT I SAW IN THE TALLAHASSEE DEMOCRAT. FLORIDA MUST CHANGE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS TO PROTECT CITIZENS HEALTH AND THE U. S. EPA STATED THAT FLORIDA'S ANTIQUATED WATER CALL QUALITY STANDARDS DO NOT GO FAR ENOUGH IN PROTECTING ITS CITIZENS. FROM POLLUTANTS AND ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS. THEY ALSO STATE THAT FLORIDA HAS NO HUMAN HEALTH CRITERIA REGULATING 37 OF THE MOST COMMON TOXIC POLLUTANTS.

THE FLORIDA LAST UPDATED ITS HUMAN HEALTH CRITERIA FOR SURFACE WATER IN 1992. WE HAD 13 MILLION PEOPLE. WE HAVE 22 MILLION TODAY INCREASE OF 70. AND. COMMISSIONER COLLINS HAS BEGUN. THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ARTICULATING THIS IS CLEARLY A POLICY. WE CAN ADAPT. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP SPEAKING ABOUT HOW HOME RULE AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO US, BUT WITH WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE IN PARTICULAR, WE DO NEED TO TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE. LET'S NOT JUST TELL THE STATE WHAT WE DON'T WANT. HEY, LET'S SHOW THEM WHAT WE CAN DO. AND WITH REGARD TO WATER QUALITY.

LET'S LEAD BY EXAMPLE. AND LET'S TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, OKAY. UH LET'S SEE WHAT'S NEXT BY THE CITY MANAGER . THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST WANTED

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

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[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (3 Minutes Max.)]

THANK YOU, BARBARA. OKAY. KAREN YOST RUDGE. GREAT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. UM I'VE BEEN MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN THE CITY OF STEWART FOR 17. I WANTED TO BRING YOU TONIGHT. THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S JUST ACROSS CLAIM, AND IT'S OUR ISSUES AND I KNOW SOMETIMES MR MARTEL ISN'T DOESN'T REALLY QUITE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OR BUT THESE NEED TO GO. I DON'T KNOW WHO TAKES THOSE. IS THAT FOR YOU? CHIEF. MY CHIEF AND THEN IT ISN'T APPEALS. THE CASE IS OPEN. AND OF COURSE, MIKE'S A WITNESS, SO HE SHOULDN'T BE YOUR COUNSEL. BUT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT SINCE 2019 ALSO ANYTHING LIKE YOU KNOW IF WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE MAYORS, I MEAN, NOTHING IS PERSONAL. MY THING IS, YOU KNOW, OUR MAYOR WAS ON THE DIETS WHEN HE WAS IN 2017 TAKING A CALL A TEXT FROM MARTIN COUNTY. REALTORS WE DON'T LIKE THAT. WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE WORKING, YOU DON'T BE TAKING LITTLE CALLS WITH MARTIN COUNTY REALTORS. THAT'S NOT GOOD. OKAY SO THERE'S NOTHING PERSONAL TROY . IT'S THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE. AND RIGHT HERE. I THINK WHAT HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD. BUT HERE, ISN'T YOU IN THE SHADE MEETING ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UM THEY'RE CALLING IT THE BUILDING THE STRUCTURE AND YOU SAY THE HOME BECAUSE YOU'RE MY NEIGHBOR. SO YOU KNEW IT WAS OUR HOME AND THEN DOWN HERE, YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, WE CAN TEAR IT DOWN. AND THEN IF WE GET SUED, IT'LL BE OKAY. I MEAN, THAT IS NOT HOW A PUBLIC OFFICIAL TALKS ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY. OKAY SO I DON'T AND I DID WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO MARY KINDLE AS WELL IN 2017. I ASKED FOR ALL RECORDS, ALL SHADE MEETINGS AND SHE ONLY GAVE ME THREE AND THEN I HAD TO FIGHT AND I FINALLY HAD TO PAY FOR THEM. I FINALLY GOT THEM ALL IN 2019. WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR COMMISSION LAST YEAR. SHE HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN HELPFUL. BUT ONE DAY I SAID TO HER DON'T PISS ON ME AND TELL ME IT'S RAINING AND THAT WAS NOT NICE. AND I WAS WRONG. AND I WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC APOLOGY THAT I SAID THAT TO YOU, MARY.

OKAY. MARY HAS BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME. SHE STARTED IN WATER IN 2010, AND SHE'S WORKED HER WAY UP TO CLERK. SO I'M SORRY. I SAID THAT TO YOU, BUT, YES, IT GETS VERY FRUSTRATING TO DO THIS, BUT I THINK THAT, UH I WISH WISDOM AND PEACE AND LOVE FOR ALL OF US AND UNITY. AND SETTLEMENT. THANK YOU, WILLIAM BRIDGE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LIAM RUN OF 17. OH, ONE SOUTH WEST PALM CITY ROAD IN STUART. I HAVE BEEN A PERMANENT RESIDENT OF STEWART FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

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WHERE IS THE REDRESS? OKAY YOU'RE JUST GONNA SIT UP THERE ALL STONE FACED AND TOTALLY IGNORE MY ISSUES. COME ON, REALLY? IS THIS WHY WE PUT YOU IN OFFICE SO THAT YOU CAN IGNORE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND TRY TO REMOVE THEIR RIGHTS? THE RIGHTS THAT YOU TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND. NOT AN ANSWER. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS I'M PRETTY WELL DONE. BUT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS UNTIL I DO GET AN ANSWER SOMEHOW FROM SOMEONE SOMEWHERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. WALTER LLOYD. GOOD EVENING, WALTER LLOYD. I'M KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE HEARD AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT A LOT OF HOURS HAVE BEEN PUT INTO IT. IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT ON CANADA INVOLVING THE COSTCO. AND SO I WENT BACK OVER THE COMMISSION MEETING THAT WE HAD 11 14, REFLECTING ON MR MARTEL'S REPEATEDLY STATED THAT THE L. J MADE THE WRONG DECISION BECAUSE SHE WAS CONSIDERING A PROFIT INFORMATION WHICH PERTAIN TO THE ZONING INSTEAD OF THE PROPER PROCESS AND CONSIDERATION OF DATA BY THE CITY STAFF AND COMMISSION. AND IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT I'M NOT A LAWYER, HOWEVER, IN THE PROCESS, I RECALL THAT THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT THEIR EXPERTS THAT'S MAKES SENSE. YOU FOLKS AREN'T EXPERTS. SO YOU NEED TO HEAR FROM EXPERTS LATER IN THE PROCESS AT OUR EXPENSE. AND AT THE 11TH HOUR WE BROUGHT EXPERTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. YOU HEARD THAT? NOW WE HAVE A CONFLICT IN THE DATA BETWEEN THE EXPERTS. YET WE MADE A DECISION MOMENTS. AFTER OUR EXPERTS FINISHED.

SEEMS TO ME LIKE I SAID ON THE 14TH. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO TO STOP AND DISCUSS AND EVALUATE THE EXPERTS DATA BEFORE WE MADE THE DECISION. THEREFORE I SAY THE PROCESS WAS FLAWED AND WAS WRONG. WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED IT FURTHER. WE ASKED LAST WEEK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WE WOULD OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION. THESE ARE FRESH PERSPECTIVES.

AND I'M ASKING YOU AGAIN. THIS THING HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED AT THE STATE LEVEL. LET'S TAKE SOME TIME AND DISCUSS WHAT WE DID. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF US OUT HERE THAT INVESTED OUR LIVES AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITIES THEY'RE GOING TO SUFFER. FOR THAT DECISION. AND WE NEED YOU GUYS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE TRUTH AND THE REALITIES AND MAKE A DECISION THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR US. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I A HEY, BILL SMITHSON. WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT HERE. MAYOR MCDONALD AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HERE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PRESSURE, OF COURSE. THIS ORGANIZATION WHERE NONRELIGIOUS 503 SENIOR. ORGANIZATION AND WE WERE GOING

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ORGANIZATION WE DO HAVE CHAPLAINS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT WE HAVE CHAPLAINS. I'M A LAY LEADER. WITH THE ORGANIZATION. I'M ALSO A. A CELEBRANT. I PERFORMED WEDDINGS. I ATTENDED FUNERALS. I'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND GIVING THEM LOCATIONS ALL SET. AND I'M ALSO PROUD TO SAY I GIVE INDICATIONS THAT THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT MEETINGS WE HAVE A CHAPLAIN THAT DOES THE INVOCATIONS OF THE MARTIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING, SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE INCLUSIVE, YOU KNOW, AND IN THE CITY OF STEWART. SO ONE OF THE CASES CITED IN RESOLUTION 25 OH, 9, 22 NOTES. THE TOWN OF GREECE, VS GALLOWAY BUT FAILS TO MENTION REGARDING THAT CASE THAT IN THE RECENT SUPREME COURT DECISION, THE COURT EMPHASIZED THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S PRAYER PRACTICE MUST BE NON DISCRIMINATORY. AND IT MUST MAKE REASONABLE EFFORTS TO INCLUDE INVOCATIONS FROM ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF THEIR BELIEFS. YOU'LL FIND THAT OUR BELIEFS ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH ANY RELIGIOUS RELIEF. WE JUST DON'T VOTE. THEY GOD SUPERNATURAL BEING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO YOU KNOW, MORAL AND ETHICAL BEHAVIOR. SO ALSO IN THE. WILLIAMSON CASE AT AL VERSUS BREVARD COUNTY, THE 11TH U. S COURT OF APPEALS NUMBER 17-1 57 69. STATED THAT BREVARD COUNTY VIOLATED THE FIRST AMENDMENT ESTABLISHMENT CAUSED BY ALLOWING CLERICS FROM CHRISTIAN, JEWISH, MUSLIM AND OTHER NON MONOTHEISTIC RELIGIONS AND DENOMINATIONS TO DELIVER INVOCATIONS AT COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETINGS WHILE EXCLUDING ATHEIST, SECULAR HUMANISTS AND OTHERS DEEMED OUTSIDE THE MAINSTREAM. TIME'S UP, PLEASE. SO YOU ONLY GET THREE MINUTES. OH CAN I JUST JUST JUST JUST WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHT? REAL QUICK RELATED TO THAT MAYBE YOU CAN COME BACK REAL QUICK, RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THAT I KNOW THAT THE RESOLUTION BE MOVED, IF YOU KNOW MODIFIED TO INCLUDE NON RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS HUMANIST ER, THE TREASURE COAST AS WELL AS INCLUSIVE, NON DISCRIMINATORY AND TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM POTENTIAL LEGAL AND NECESSARY, UNNECESSARY EXPENSES AND TO BE COMPLIANT WITH LEGAL RULINGS ALREADY. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY THAT WAS THE LAST GREEN CARD PILE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE HERE. HMM YOU HAVE.

SO IF YOU GIVE THE CHIEF YOUR GREEN CARD, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB YOU'RE DOING AND I HOPE THAT EVERYTHING YOU ALL STAY HEALTHY AND DO WELL IN THE 2023. FIRST LET ME SAY THAT I'M SADDENED BY THE THOUGHT OF A GODLESS SOCIETY. EVEN MORE SO BY THOSE WHO BELIEVE BUT HIDE. THEIR BELIEF OUT OF FEAR. THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT PREPARE THAT PRAYER THAT OPEN THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT PRAYERS THAT OPEN TOWNS COUNCIL MEETINGS DO NOT VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION EVEN IF THEY ROUTINELY STRESS CHRISTIANITY.

THIS WAS IN MAY OF 2014, THE COURT SAID IN A 54 DECISION THAT THE CONTENT OF THE PRAYER IS NOT SIGNIFICANT AS LONG AS OFFICIALS MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT IN AT INCLUSION. 18 1983 AND 18 AND 1983. THE COURT UPHELD AN OPENING PRAYER IN THE NEBRASKA LEGISLATURE AND SAID THAT PRAYER IS PART OF THE NATION'S FABRIC, NOT A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. CONSISTENT WITH EARLIER RULINGS. JUSTICE ANTHONY KENNEDY WROTE. YEAH, THAT THE MAJORITY SAID THAT THE PRAYERS ARE CEREMONIAL AND IN KEEPING WITH THE NATION'S TRADITIONS. THE INCLUSION OF A BRIEF

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AMEN. AND WE'LL BE OUT OF THERE BY 11 O'CLOCK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU'VE ALREADY SMOKING, UH AND WHERE WE'RE ON JUST GENERAL PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. YEAH. YEAH. SO BUT IF YOU IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC AGENDA , I WANT TO SPEAK. YOU KNOW YOU

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

COLLINS? YES. COMMISSIONER BRUNER. YES OR I'M SORRY, VICE MAYOR BURNER COMMISSIONER. OH, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES MCDONALD'S YES, OKAY. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO COMMISSION

[10. CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH ST. JOSEPH'S SCHOOL FOR A STUART POLICE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER (RC): RESOLUTION No. 116-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING A THREE-YEAR CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT BOTH OPERATIONALLY AND FINANCIALLY WITH ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH/ST. JOSEPHS SCHOOL AUTHORIZING A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT THE ST. JOSEPHS SCHOOL; AND BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 TO THE 2023 OPERATING BUDGET; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

[02:00:01]

CONCERNED TIRED, THOUGH. YEAH DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM ARE YOU MAKING THE MOTION? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK HIM. WE WERE. WE ARE, IN FACT, HIRING POLICEMEN TO CURRENTLY UNDERSTAFFED. WE JUST GOT TO PROVE THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR FOUR NEW POLICE OFFICERS. I HAVE TO AND I PLAN FOR THE TWO THAT ARE RETIRING. SO I HAVE I HAVE 11.

BETTER IN THE HIRING PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR ABOUT FOUR POSITIONS IN ANTICIPATION OF TWO OFFICERS LEAVING ONE IN APRIL ONE IN JUNE. 23. I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT DOES THIS REQUEST FROM SAINT JOSEPH COME AND RESPONSE TO ANY INCIDENTS THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO THEM. OR THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO JUST SCHOOL SAFETY. OKAY SECURITY. UM YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE IT? AND THE SHERIFF DOES NOT. PROVIDE A FULL TIME. FOR THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

SO SAINT JOSEPH APPROACHED US AND I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATION AS PART OF THE ANNUAL EVALUATIONS.

IN THAT REGARD. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 116 2020 TO, UM TO BE A APPROVAL. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? THEREFORE, FATHER MCGRATH AND THE PRINCIPAL MINNIE MILLER, THAT'S VERY NICE.

WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT . UM WE ARE A CATHOLIC SCHOOL OF ABOUT 320 STUDENTS. WE'VE GROWN ABOUT 30% IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

AND UH, PRE COVID. WE DID HAVE WE SHARED A SHERIFF'S OFFICER WITH THE OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

BUT SINCE COVID THE FUNDING FOR THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY, AND WE DON'T SEE UM, THAT COMING BACK ANYTIME SOON. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHIEF TO MANALI, WHO HAS BEEN, UM, CREATIVE AND WILLING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX TO HELP US TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR OUR SCHOOL. OUR FAMILIES ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE'VE BEEN FUNDRAISING AND ARE COMMITTED TO THIS EFFORT, SO THANK YOU VERY

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OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECULAR HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE SAME NUMBER. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? COMMISSIONER COLLINS YES, MAYOR BRUNER. YES MR MCDONALD.

CLARK? YES, YES. OKAY THANK YOU . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM MIKE, IF YOU WERE GOING TO ITEM 11 MY,

[11. SE ILLINOIS AVENUE LIVING SHORELINE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 122-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE UTILITIES & ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT AN INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE SE ILLINOIS AVENUE LIVING SHORELINE DEMONSTRATION PROJECT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

THE PROJECTOR RIGHT NOW IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING CONDITION. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A UNIMPROVED SHORE LINE WITH CONCRETE RUBBLE. VEGETATION, OVERGROUND EXOTIC. UM SO REALLY, THE MAIN PURPOSE ON CHOOSING THIS LOCATION IS ONE. IT'S UNIMPROVED SO WE CAN GO IN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. AND ALSO, THERE'S A STORM WATER OUTFALL AT THIS LOCATION. SO HERE'S JUST A LANDSCAPE PLAN OF KIND OF THE PRO POSED IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING ONE. THERE'S AN EXISTING BAFFLE BOX. TWO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING A BUFFERED SHORE LINE. THREE WE'RE LOOKING AT REMOVING THE CONCRETE RUBBLE AND INSTALLING RIPRAP AND FOUR WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING A 10 FT, UM, LIVING SHORELINE AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL. UM ON EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS HERE IS KIND OF A ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THE PROPOSED PLAN. SO THE EXISTING BAFFLE BOX IS HERE, AND IT'S A OUTDATED BOX, SO THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE , AND WHAT WOULD LOOK AT DOING IS JUST UPGRADING THE INTERNAL COMPONENTS. LIKE THE ACTUAL BALL, BAFFLE AND LOOKING TO REPLACE IT WITH BASICALLY MODERNIZED THE INTERNAL COMPONENTS SINCE NEWER TECHNOLOGY HAS COME OUT SINCE THIS WAS INSTALLED. HOW THE SECOND COMPONENT I MENTIONED THE FIVE FT BUFFERED SHORE LINE, SO THE FIVE FT OF UPLAND RIGHT BEFORE IT. BEFORE THE SHORE LINE WOULD BE PLANTED WITH VEGETATION AND REALLY THAT VEGETATION PROVIDES FILTRATION FOR ANY STORM WATER DRAINING FROM ILLINOIS AVENUE INTO THE RIVER. THE THIRD COMPONENT WOULD BE REMOVING THE CONCRETE REBEL THAT EXISTS ON THE SHORE LINE TODAY AND WOULD REPLACE THAT WITH RIP RAP. WHICH WOULD PROVIDE ARMOR.

THE SHORE LINE AND PROTECTED FROM EROSION. AND THEN LASTLY, WE LOOK TO CONSTRUCT A 10 FT.

LIVING SHORELINE. THE LIVING SHORELINES WOULD CONSIST OF GABY AND BASKETS. WHICH IS THIS THESE WHITE LINES HERE AND BASICALLY A GAMEY IN BASKETS OF WIRE MESH WITH RON. IT'S VERY NATURAL LOOKING AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO THEN PLANT THE LIVING SHORE LINE WITH UM, MANGROVES HERE AND SOME

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IF THERE'S SHORELINES, WORKS, AND IF IT DOES IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY CAN LOOK TO GET IT PERMITTED TO GO FARTHER OUT INTO THE RIVER AND ALSO EXTENDED ALONG THE SHORELINE. SO BACK IN 2021 MILLION I WERE APPROACHED IN JANUARY OF 2022. WE APPLY FOR AN INDIAN RIVER LAGOON GRANT AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING $85,000 SINCE JANUARY, 2022. WE COMPLETED THE DESIGN, HOWEVER, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE INCREASED. UM SO A NEW APPLICATION CYCLE HAS OPENED WITH THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL, AND WE CHECKED WITH OUR GRANT. PROJECT MANAGER AND IT IS WE ARE ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE INCREASED CONSTRUCTION COSTS. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GO BACK TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL FOR THIS NEW GRANT CYCLE, WHICH I BELIEVE ENDS IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP COVER THE INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THIS PROJECT. I GUESS WITH THAT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT? PRESSURE CALENDAR GRANTS COVER THE PROJECT ENTIRELY, OR THERE'S THE CITY ON THE HOOK FOR SOME OF IT. INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL. IT'S A 50 50 COST SHARE SO THEY WOULD COVER RIGHT NOW. THE COST ESTIMATE. AND WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT PRIOR TO THE APPLICATIONS ABOUT $250,000. SO WE RECEIVED $85,000 FROM THE LAST APPLICATION CYCLE. WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ANOTHER 40,000 TO HELP.

THEN PROVIDE 100 AND 25,000 IN THE CITY WOULD UTILIZE THE STORM WATER. ENTERPRISE TO HELP FUND THE CITY SIDE OF IT, WHICH THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY IN THERE, HOPEFULLY MY QUESTION. IS IN TERMS OF THE MANGROVES AND THE WILD COFFEE. SO THIS IS RIGHT OVER BY MY OFFICE, SO PERIODICALLY SIT THERE AND HOW HOW TALL DO YOU THINK THAT'S GONNA BLOCK VISIBILITY? BECAUSE REALLY, YOU WANT TO LOOK KIND OF TO YOUR LEFT BRIDGES OVER THERE. YEAH HOSPITALS OVER TO YOUR RIGHT. SO YOU END UP KIND OF LOOKING LEFT. IT SEEMS LIKE IF I DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN MANGROVES OF THE WILD COFFEE, BUT SO THE MEDIA DOESN'T MESS IT UP TO SWITCH THOSE TWO. YEAH AND THE REASON WE LAID LAID IT OUT LIKE THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE STORM WATER OUTFALL, AND WE'VE RECEIVED. YOU KNOW, WE WENT OUT TO THREE DIFFERENT EXPERTS TO RECOMMEND WHAT TO PLANT. UM YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THE EAST SIDE. HERE'S THE GRASSES AND THEN THE MANGROVE. THEY'RE HERE. FROM THE MEAN HIGH WATER ELEVATION. IT'S ABOUT A NEGATIVE FIVE AND THEN THE ELEVATION WHEN YOU'RE SITTING UP HERE IS ABOUT IT OVER A 10. SO THERE'S A 10 FT DIFFERENCE SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT LOOK. EVEN WITH THESE MANGROVES GROWING, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THEM SO THEY DON'T GET TOO TALL TO RUIN THAT VIEW SHED, BUT THAT'S YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A LAUNCH. GO AHEAD, CONDITIONER RICH CURRENTLY HAVE A LIVING YOUR LIFE PARTNER. UH WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LIVING SHORELINE IN SHEPHERD'S PARK BUFFERED SHORELINE SO THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY WE BOTH WOULD HAVE THE BUFFERED SHORELINE IN ADDITION TO THE LIVING SHORELINES, SO AT SHEPHERD IT'S THE BUFFERED SHORE LINE, WHICH IS APPLE IN AND THEN WHICH IS UP A LINE OF THE SEA WALL. WE HAVEN'T PLANTED ANYTHING YET IN IN FRASER FOR THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY COULD LOOK TO DO IN THE FUTURE AND LOOK TO OBTAIN GRANTS FOR THAT.

HOW DID THAT SURVIVE? IAN I. MILTON HAD. LOOKS LIKE A DAD. BUFFERED SHORELINE? YEAH LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE, IT'S GOOD. IT WAS GOOD. GOOD ALRIGHT, SO, SO THESE ARE DURABLE. AND SO I MEAN, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING WE SHOULD BE DOING. EXACTLY. THIS IS TERRIFIC. THIS IS JUST UNDER BUFFERED SHORELINE AT SHEPHERD'S PARK. I WENT OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE AND YET WALKED WAS FLOODING AND LEAVING. I THINK IT DID EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO FOR,

[02:15:04]

UH, TO OUR CITY COMMISSION. OR BY OUR CITY COMMISSION. EXACTLY. OKAY SO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARD FOR APPROVAL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SAYING NONE. MARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES. I'M SORRY. MAYOR MCDONALD YES, COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES COMMISSIONER COLLINS? YES, COMMISSIONER RICH? YES. HEY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY NEXT

[12. APPOINTMENTS OF CITY COMMISSIONERS TO COMMUNITY BOARDS]

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WE'RE HERE THROUGH NEXT YEAR, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT BECOMES. I THINK WE'VE GOT A SOURCE POINT. I THINK SO. UM SO I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. EMOTIONAL BREW. OKAY SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND MARRY AND DANIEL HAVE ALL THE BOARDS EMBRACING EVERYBODY JUST STAYING WHERE THEY ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. HEARING NONE MARRIED. YOU CALL THE ROLL MAYOR MCDONALD . YES BRUNER. YES CLARK? YES, RICH? YES COLLINS? YES, OKAY. OKAY NOW I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM 13, THAT'S COMMISSIONER. LIAISON

[13. COMMISSION LIAISON AND AT LARGE APPOINTMENTS / RATIFICATION TO ADVISORY BOARDS OF THE CITY]

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOTION APPROVED? SECOND OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION TO APPOINTMENT TO ADVISORY BOARDS. SAYING NONE. MARY, CALL THE ROLL. OH OKAY. I WAS GONNA SAY IF WELL, MAYBE WE'LL WAIT UNTIL IF WE IF THEY'RE ALL APPROVED, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES AND A LOT OF CHANGES. AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK IT REFLECTS OUR CITY AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN APPOINTED OR SUGGESTED FOR BOARD. THEY'RE ALL APPROVED TODAY THAT I THINK IT WILL BE, UM GOOD CREW. JUST MAKE A COMMENT. MR ABSOLUTELY, HAVING SAT ON THE OPEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND UH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK. IT'S A GOOD GROUP. THESE ARE AND I APPRECIATE PEOPLE. TAKING THE TIME AND SHARING THEIR CONCERNS TO MAKE THE CITY A BETTER PLACE. MY IMPRESSION WHEN I WAS ON THE OPA IS I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE USED AS WELL AS WE COULD BE. AND I THINK TONIGHT WE HAD A PERFECT EXAMPLE. AH! A LOT OF MEETINGS. I GET CANCELED AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THEM. SO MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT POLICIES CAN WE PUT IN PLACE TO INCREASE? UH YOU KNOW, UH, INCREASE OUR ODDS OF SUCCESS IN THE AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ZONE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE COULD ASK THE LP A LISTEN TO THE FULL PRESENTATION BY THAT CHANNEL, MAN. AND BEGIN TO ADDRESS WHAT POLICIES WE CAN. LISTEN TO AND POSSIBLY IMPLEMENT , SO I JUST THINK RATHER THAN THE LP, WE WERE JUST KIND OF SAT THERE AND WAITED FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO BRING THEIR PROJECTS TO THEM. WHY DON'T WE ASK THEM SOMETIMES TO HELP US TAKE AN INITIAL LOOK AT SOME DECISIONS WE MADE THINK ABOUT MAKING SO I WOULD. I WOULD JUST ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THE COMMISSION DOES LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE FORM BASED CODE CAME FORWARD. IT WAS PRESENTED TO BE VOLUNTEER BOARDS IN ADVANCE. AND IF YOU GUYS DO ADVOCATE ANY TEXT AMENDMENTS THEY DO, IN FACT, GO TO THE TO THOSE BOARDS. YEAH, I SAT THROUGH MANY OF THE BASICALLY THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WOULD WOULD

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THERE ARE SEVERAL NEW APPOINTEES HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM.

IT'S UH IT'S A COMMITMENT BY THEM AND THEIR TIME TO THE CITY. MARRIAGE COLORADO. SURE, COMMISSIONER RICH. WOW, I'M FIRST. YES COMMISSIONER COLLINS ? YES COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES.

MCDONALD'S VICE MAYOR BRUNER. YES. CAN YOU REMEMBER? PEOPLE ARE IN THERE? CAN YOU RECOGNIZE THE ONES IN THE AUDIENCE SORT HERE, OKAY, EVERYBODY, THAT'S UH , HERE AT A VOLUNTARY BOARD APPOINTMENT. COULD YOU PLEASE JUST STAND UP AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A WAVE? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LIST THE NEW APPOINTEES THAT I KNOW? OKAY. MM HMM. YOU'RE GONNA TELL IS NOT GOING TO CALL THEM. I DON'T CARE. I MEAN, IT'S IN THE AGENDA ITEM. IT'S JUST NOT JUST CALL THE ONES THAT ARE HERE SO WE CAN SEE. I DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY'S NAME AND I DON'T KNOW SEAN REED'S NOT HERE. HE'S THE FIRST ONE ON THE LIST IS HERE. JOBE IS HERE. AND MAX STUCKEY IS HERE. DON QUASI IS NOT HERE. I DON'T BELIEVE I DON'T SEE HIM UP THERE. SEAN PAPA IS HERE. I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE YOU WERE HIDING BEHIND THE WALL. UM MYKA, I DIDN'T SEE HER OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT.

SORRY IT WAS TURNED THE OTHER WAY. TALLY IS NOT HERE. I DIDN'T SEE HER. FRANK MCCHRYSTAL'S BACK HERE. I SEE HIM AND SETH OWENS, NOT HERE IS NOT HERE. SO THAT WAS EVERYBODY ON THE LIST. I DID

[14. IMPACT FEE UPDATES (RC): 12/12/2022 CCM ORDINANCE No. 2508-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, AMENDING CHAPTER 32 ARTICLE III IMPACT FEES, ADJUSTING FEES AND LANGUAGE FOR COLLECTION AND NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND A CONFLICT CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES RESOLUTION No. 120-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA ADOPTING APPENDIX “A” BY AMENDING CHAPTER 32 AND CHAPTER 34 OF THE CITY’S CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]

COMMISSIONER. THIS ITEM HAS TO ACTION ITEMS ON IT FOR YOU. ONE IS THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEN THE RESOLUTION ADOPTION TO CHANGE THE REMOVE THE FEES FROM APPENDIX A. I KNOW DURING THE FIRST READING, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT ON ZOOM IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR HIM. AND THE CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE THAT YES, OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANT? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DO WE NEED SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTIONS MOTION FOR THE ORDINANCE? FIRST MOTION IMPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2508-2 TO 2. SECOND. THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RICH ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE OF MARRIAGE. YOU CALL THE ROLL. VICE MAYOR BRUNER YES, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES YES.

COLLINS YES. MCDONALD YES. OKAY. NOW IF WE CAN GET A MOTION FOR THE PAST OF THE RESOLUTION MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 120-20 TO 2. SECOND OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RICH YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO GET THIS MOTION THING DOWN. GET IT TRAINABLE. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE FILL UP THE GREEN CARD AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE MAKING THIS RESOLUTION. I PERSONALLY AM A BELIEVER. AND YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD . THIS IS THE IMPACT FEE. YOU'RE ON THE WRONG 15. NO NEXT ONE CLUSTER ALMOST THERE. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. YEAH. I ASK YOU SECOND? NOT YET. ALAN UH, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. COMMISSIONER

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[15. ADDING INVOCATIONS TO THE AGENDA (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2509-2022; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING THE STUART CITY CODE, CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION AMENDING ARTICLE II DIVISION 2; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY OF THE PARTS HEREOF; PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE ONLY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. RESOLUTION No. 119-2022; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA ADOPTING A POLICY REGARDING INVOCATIONS AT THE OPENING OF ITS MEETINGS; MAKING FINDINGS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION AMENDING ARTICLE TWO DIVISION TO PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY OF THE PARTS HERE OF PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE ONLY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AS WELL AS RESOLUTION 119-20 TO 2 OF RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A POLICY REGARDING INVOCATIONS AT THE OPENING OF ITS MEETINGS, MAKING FINDINGS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS MOTIONS QUESTION TO PROVE CAN I MAKE A ABSOLUTELY NO , THERE'S A MOTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN SECONDED. SO SHE CAN, BUT SHE CAN MAKE A COPY. UM ON THE IMPLICATION. I JUST WROTE A FEW THINGS DOWN. ANYWAY SINCE THE LAST MEETING I'VE HEARD FROM MANY OF THE CITIZENS MANY MORE ON WHY NOT TO MOVE FORWARD ON APPROVING THEM VACATION? FOR YEARS. THE ARRANGEMENT HERE HAS DONE WELL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE. AND IT'S NOT BROKEN, THEY SAY, AND THEY'RE ASKING TO PLEASE LEAVE IT BE MEMORY, DONALD. I AGREE WITH YOU ON WHAT? YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE MEETING. OUR LAST MEETING, HAVE SILENTLY PRAYED AT EVERY MEETING. UM, NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME OR ANYONE THAT THAT PRAYS BEFORE A MEETING. THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. THAT WE LIVE IN. THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT TO A SHOW ON GOD AND PRAYER. UM BACK TO CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD BALANCE, AND I WILL CONTINUE MY PRAYERS LIKE SO MANY OTHER ONES HERE SO I CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT THE INVOCATION. OKAY SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. AND SO I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE RESOLUTION. CORRECT WITHOUT THE CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE THAN THE RESOLUTION. OKAY WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS SO WE'LL HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, FIRST ONE IS ROBERT SEYMOUR. ROBERT SEYMOUR LUMEN OSCEOLA STREET. I APPRECIATE THIS COMMISSION AND ALL OF THE OFTEN THANKLESS WORK YOU ALL DO. THESE MEETINGS ARE A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL WELCOME TO OBSERVE AND ENGAGE WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, OR LACK THEREOF. AND NOT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF STEWART SUBSCRIBES TO A RELIGION. UM RELIGION IS PERHAPS THE MOST DIVISIVE TOPIC AND INCLUDING RELIGION AND PUBLIC MEETINGS IS NOT NECESSARY. THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE DOES A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE LEGALITY OF IMPLICATIONS, BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS LEGAL DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS THAT ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL TO BE COULD INCLUDE THAT WE DON'T UM, FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD PRIORITIZE CERTAIN ITEMS FOR WHEN SATURN AND MARS ARE IN ALIGNMENT AND MERCURY IS OUT OF RETROGRADE. BUT WHY DO THAT? UM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN STUART, WHO BELIEVE IN ASTROLOGY AND READ THEIR HOROSCOPES EVERY DAY. BUT THAT SORT OF THING HAS NO PLACE IN THE COMMISSION MEETING. IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE A MESSAGE ON RELIGION OR SPIRITUALITY, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR CHURCH OR THEIR SYNAGOGUE OR MOSQUE. BUT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW THIS COMMISSION IS MOVING THE CITY FORWARD, THEY'LL COME HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR NOT APPROVING. THANK YOU, WALTER LLOYD. SO. WE ARE A NATION UNDER GOD. ACCORDING TO OUR CREEDS, BUT. HE IS THE DESIGNER AND HE IS THE ONE WHO ALLOWS FOR DECISION. HE DOESN'T FORCE ANYBODY TO PRAY, NOT PRAY, BELIEVE IN HIM OR NOT BELIEVING HE GAVE HIS SON FOR EVERYONE, EVEN THOSE THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM. UM I THINK OF YOUR DECISION IS NOT TO INCLUDE IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM, THEN SO BE IT. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US

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THANK YOU. I'M A PROBABLY MISPRONOUNCES MICAH HART KOWSKI GETTING BETTER GOOD. ER, A BE SARABI. JEREMY UM MY NAME IS MICHAEL HOTEL SCHEME. 6 20, SOUTH EAST FIFTH STREET. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. UM, FATHER, NOEL'S, ACTUALLY. WELL, I KNOW HE'S GONE OUT, BUT HE'S LIKE MY PRIEST, UM, AS A PRACTICING CATHOLIC WHEN I GRADUATED FROM ST JOE'S IS THERE FOR 10 YEARS? UM MY FAITH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME INDIVIDUALLY. UM, BUT IT HAS NO PLACE HERE. AND SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR RECOGNIZING THAT, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY SHAPES WHO I AM AS A PERSON, HOW I INTERACT WITH PEOPLE. I HOPE THAT THAT SHOWS AND I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE IT, UH, INTERRUPT OR NOT INTERRUPTED. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. BUT I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. SO THANK YOU, BECKY. FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU ALL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU, FRANK MCCHRYSTAL. EXPRESSED LAST TIME MY FEELINGS ON THIS SUBJECT? YES. JUST STAY OUT OF THE LEGAL WEEDS. I SUGGEST THAT YOU DEFINITELY FOLLOW THE PATH OF THE COUNTY.

AND I GUESS IT'S SCHOOL BOARD WAS. TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE INVOCATION, INCLUDING THE HUMANISTS AND THE ATHEIST, AND THOSE WHO PRAY HAVE SATURN MARS.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHO WE ARE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ONE NATION UNDER GOD. THEY REALLY INJUSTICE FOR ALL SO IF THEY HAVE THEIR OPINIONS AND GREAT AGAIN. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE, UH. AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOESN'T CROWD, TOO. AN ATHEIST WOULD CALL IT A HIGHER POWER.

QUESTIONS OF CALL IT GOD. LIKE I SAY THE COUNTY DOES IT THE SCHOOL BIRD, DOES IT MEAN WHY NOT? AGAIN, JUST STAY AT THE LEGAL WEEDS. ONCE IN A WHILE, THE HUMANISTS GET TO COME AND OPEN THE MEETING AND THE CATHOLICS, THE LUTHERANS, BAPTISTS, THE. WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY SO THAT'S ALL THE GREEN CARDS I HAVE. OH, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, JUST STATE. YOUR NAME GAVE THE CHIEF YOUR GREEN CARD. SO HI. I'M LAURA JOBE AND I LIVE ON SOUTH EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD AND STEWART. I WASN'T PREPARED. I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. I CERTAINLY WASN'T PREPARED TO COME UP HERE AND DEFEND, UM, ARE HONORING THE HIGHER BEING, WHETHER IT BE GOD OR WHATEVER YOU NAME IT, BUT I REALLY HAVE TO SAY IN AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT LOOK HOW THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WE HAVE MOVED PRAYER OUT OF SCHOOL. WE'VE TAUGHT OUR CHILDREN NOT TO SAY I MEAN, I THINK WE ARE ADULT ENOUGH AND I THINK WE'RE CIVILIZED ENOUGH TO SAY TO A HIGHER POWER AND START MEETINGS WHERE THEY STARTED ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DEMAND. WE DO NOT PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I MEAN, I SEE NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T INVOKE. WE'RE CERTAINLY DOING IT FOR ANY NOMINATION THAT LIKE TO DO IT.

ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE INCLUDED. THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING. IT'S NOT OFFENDING ANYONE, BUT I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DO BELIEVE IN GOD OR HIGHER POWER.

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AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE NEED FOR GUIDANCE. I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS NO GREATER NEED. GUIDANCE BEEN HERE. AND PEOPLE SAY THAT THERE'S NO PLACE FOR IT. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PLACE FOREVER. THANK YOU. UH, NATHAN JOINER. WELCOME, NATHAN. UM I'M JUST. THAT WAS WONDERFUL. WHAT HE SAID. AND I REALLY ENJOYED MY RIDE OVER HERE. I LOVE THE CHRISTMAS. UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, AND I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW. I YOU KNOW, YOU EVEN JUST SOMETHING LIKE CHRISTMAS, YOU KNOW? CHRIST IS IN THE NAME AND WE HAVE TREES AND WE SING AND WE DO ALL THIS STUFF AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO SAY THAT IT IT DOES THAT GOD IS, YOU KNOW IT IS BELONG HERE OR OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT HIM OR THAT HE HAS NO PLACE. I JUST I JUST THINK YOU'RE YOU KNOW WE'RE KIDDING OURSELVES, YOU KNOW? IT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY HOLD DEAR TO THEM. AND IT'S UM YOU COULD YOU COULD. YOU COULD TRY TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IT'S DIVISIVE. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL ADULTS, AND WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE GET. WE COULD COME TOGETHER AND REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. YEAH YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS? BUT WHAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IS, YOU KNOW, I HEARD, UM A PASTOR COME IN HERE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING TO AH! TO LISTEN TO THE YOU KNOW HE WANTS TO HAVE HIS COMMUNITY INVOLVED. HE WANTS TO BRING ANOTHER A PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND INTO THE CITY MEETING, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. IT'S A CALL, UH, TO THE TO THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW. UM DOESN'T DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE. BUT IT IT'S INVOCATION. IT'S SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER FOR A SINGLE PURPOSE, AND WE ALL DO HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS. BUT WE ARE. WE'RE HERE. UM, AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST ALL WANTING TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. AND I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF WHY IT'S DIVISIVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING DIVISIVE ISSUES YOU AS UNIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY SO BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU CLOSE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP WITH ABOUT THE HUMANIST ER ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PRAY AT THE COUNTY. THE LANGUAGE OF OUR RESOLUTION IS IDENTICAL TO THE COUNTIES. SO IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PRAY THERE, YOU'D BE ALLOWED TO DO IT HERE. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND COMMENT. SORRY. GO AHEAD , SO OBVIOUSLY I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING I CHAMPION. UM. TO THE POINT THAT IT WOULD NOT BE INCLUSIVE. I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT WOULD BE MORE INCLUSIVE THAN TRYING TO INVITE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO ARE TRULY LEADERS IN THIS COMMUNITY INTO THIS PLACE TO START OFF AND LEAD OUR PROCEEDINGS. JUST BECAUSE WE'VE NOT DONE SOMETHING FOR A LONG TIME. DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'VE BEEN NECESSARILY DOING THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD WE ARE OUT OF LINE WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE OUT OF LINE WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. WE ARE OUT OF LINE WITH MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. THINGS BEING OFFENSIVE. TO A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. MINORITY IN A SITUATION SHOULD

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IT'S NOT A CHRISTIAN ONLY THING. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IN MY OPINION. COWERING TO ATHEISM.

WE'RE SAYING THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRAY IN THIS CHAMBER BECAUSE IT OFFENDS ATHEISTS.

WELL, HOW INCLUSIVE IS THAT? POINT OF ORDER, MR MAYOR. I'M NOT DONE. NO, HE CAN. HE CAN DO HIS COMMENTS SO AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. THERE ARE A LOT OF SYMBOLS AND THINGS THAT OFFEND A LOT OF PEOPLE. THAT FLAG OFFENDS A LOT OF PEOPLE. SHOULD WE STOP HAVING FLAGS UP BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS SOME SOMETHING TO SOME PEOPLE. THAT'S OFFENSIVE. WHATEVER THAT IS ABOUT THAT TREE. IS THAT TRUE OFFENSIVE TO YOU? THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE OFFENSIVE TO SOMEBODY.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A MINUTE. AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETINGS. AND ALL APPEAL TO SOMETHING HIGHER THAN OURSELVES SEEMS SO OBVIOUS, AND THAT'S WHY SO MANY OTHER PLACES, DO IT. I'M DISAPPOINTED. THAT WE ARE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BURN BRIDGES WITH EVERYBODY, BUT IT FEELS LIKE COWARDICE MASQUERADING AS UM INCLUSIVITY. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT MANY, MANY PEOPLE.

BELIEVE IN A HIGHER POWER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MAJORITY. BUT THIS COUNTRY THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE OATH WE MAKE AND WE TAKE OFFICE AND I'LL REFERENCE GOD THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW GOD SHOULD BE SANITIZED FROM THIS CHAMBERS. IT'S NOT REALITY. SO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. FINALLY ABLE TO MOTION THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, BUT I HOPE ALL OF US WILL REALIZE THAT WHERE THE LEADERS WHO SET THE TONE FOR WHAT THIS CITY IS AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR. OKAY I KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T SPOKEN. I HAD SECONDED THE MOTION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING GOING AND I, TOO HAVE LISTENED TO SO MANY PEOPLE, AND I DON'T WANT TO START OUT SOMETHING FOR THE REST OF THE CITY. THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO LIVE UP TO, UM, WITH. I WOULDN'T SAY DIVISIVENESS ON OUR COMMISSION.

BUT I THINK YOU HAD SAID THAT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T DIG, UM DICTATED, BUT YOUR FEELINGS WERE, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING WITH IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S TRY TO DO IT IN UNISON AND SEE IF WE CAN ALL DO IT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENING. AND I DIDN'T EVEN SAY A WORD BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER BRUNER KIND OF SPOKE. I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T TELL COMMISSIONED ME TO SPEAK UP FOR ME, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE WORDS THAT SHE SAID, AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW. YEAH IT'S RESONATED, AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT, UM AND I, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. I THINK COMMISSIONER MCDONALD AND I WERE THE PRAYER WALK YESTERDAY FOR THE FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WALKED AND WE PRAYING. I THINK THERE'S MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS US UP HERE WHO SAID THAT? WE ALL PRAY INDIVIDUALLY, BUT FOR THIS POINT IN TIME, AND FOR WHAT WE'RE HEARING ON OUR COMMISSION, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF THING. WE'RE AT IT. WE HAVE THIS UH, SO I I'D RATHER SNAP AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T EVEN SAY A WORD EVEN BECAUSE I THINK BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A MOTION OR SOMETHING.

COMMISSIONER BRUNER SAID SOMETHING THAT RESONATED WITH ME AND I JUST SAID THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE SONG THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S SO I AGREE WITH THAT, AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. IF THERE'S A TIME IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR SOMETHING HAPPENS OR THE FEELINGS OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY OR THE COMMISSION. I KNOW THAT THEY DID VERY GOOD WORK IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT FORWARD AND IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY THAT EVERY YEAR THE MAYOR CAN ASK IF THEY WANT THAT MAYOR WANTS TO START WITH PRAYER OR THAT MAYOR WANTS TO START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE INCLUDING THE AUDIENCE. A LOT OF LOT OF THINGS WENT INTO IT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO MAKE

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SECOND OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JANUARY 17TH 2023 JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT WOULD BE ORDINANCE 24 99 COORDINATES 24 98 ORDINANCE 25 OH ONE ORDINANCE 25 07 OKAY. AND THOSE ARE THAT WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR UM BRUDER OR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE. MARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR MCDONALD. YES COMMISSIONER RICH YES.

COLLINS CLARKE? YES MCDONALD'S I'M SORRY. VICE MAYOR BRUNER. YES OKAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA, UH, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY HANUKKAH DEFENSIVE. DON'T SAY IT. DON'T SAY IT. THANK YOU. ME

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