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EXACTLY. WE'RE READY TO DO THIS. OKAY EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY READY ? MHM OKAY, GO AHEAD. I'LL CALL

[CALL TO ORDER]

HER. GO AHEAD AND CALL THE C. R A MEETING TO ORDER. UM YOU SAY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MCDONALD HERE? BRUNER HERE, REMEMBER CLARK HERE, REMEMBER COLIN MEMBER RICH? FOREIGN MEMBER CAMPENNI HOTELS KEY HERE IF YOU PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I BELIEVE THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OKAY? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SECOND,

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, MEMBER CAMPENNI, SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER, CLARK ALL IN FAVOR. SAY

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AYE AYE. OK ANY OPPOSED? NOTHING KILLS THE MINUTES, OKAY? WE HAVE A MOTION. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMPANY SECOND BY CLARK ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM

[COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)]

THE PUBLIC? SAYING NONE ANY COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? YES COMMISSIONER. GOOD AFTERNOON.

NEVER WON. I DIDN'T SUPPORT THIS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, BUT MAYBE IT ASKED FOR STAFF TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND COME BACK WITH US IF OR IF IT'S WAR, DECIDES TO LOOK INTO WHAT I'M GOING TO BE ASKING, UM, I KNOW THAT I HAD ASKED BEFORE ABOUT RAP IN THE UTILITY BOXES AND AS AN EXAMPLE THEY HAVE THEM WRAPPED ALL AROUND THE LARGE CITY OF PORT ST LUCIE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FUNDING SOURCES ANOTHER LAST TIME IT CAME UP. IT WAS ABOUT $38,000. AND IT WAS FOR THE SERIOUS STEWART WHEN I WAS WONDERING IF AS A DEMARCATION AND A HIGHLIGHT FOR THE C R A IF JUST IN THE C R A AREA HOW MUCH A DIFFERENCE WOULD BE OR IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO SOMEHOW, UM , DO THAT IN THE C R A. AND THEN THAT WAY, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE TERM TODAY AND LOOKING AT OUR RAPPING THING. AH WHAT IF WE DID AGREED TO DO THE UTILITY BOXES? HOW WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD DEFINITELY DISTINGUISH THE C R A. AND SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP AS A IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ADD IT AS A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION OR AT LEAST OF STAFF WOULD JUST THINK ABOUT IT AND BRING US BACK SOME IDEAS DISCUSSED WITH THE DIRECTOR PUT IT THROUGH THE LEAST FOR REVIEW AND BRING IT BACK. OH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE DO. AT THE LAST CRB MEETING . WE DIDN'T HAVE QUORUM. SO THIS DID NOT GO THROUGH THE CRB AT ALL. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE IN THAT BE DELAYED.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE IS SOMETHING FUNCTIONALLY WRONG WITH OUR BOARDS. HMM. I AGREE.

I'M GOING TO SAY THAT OF THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS THAT A POINT COMMIT COMMISSIONER COLLINS REPRESENTATIVE FRANK CRYSTAL. HE'S BEEN TO EVERY MEETING. HE'S READ HIS PACKET. HE'S A BIT OF HE'S BEEN THERE TO DISCUSS ITEMS. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT FOR MOST OF THE OTHERS, MICAH AND I, AS AS THE CITY MANAGERS, REPRESENTATIVES. WE'VE BEEN THERE CONSISTENTLY. BUT. IT DOESN'T THE BOOKS. THE CRB CANNOT FUNCTION IF THE MEMBERS DON'T SHOW UP. AND I'M ALSO GOING TO SAY FOR HALF THE MEETINGS, THE CITY DIDN'T SHOW UP. THEY WERE CANCELED. THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHATSOEVER FOR THE CITY TO CANCEL THE CRB MEETING. WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT CODE WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAMS. WHY DO WE HAVE TRAINS? AT THIS POINT? WE HAVEN'T EVEN DISCUSSED TRENDS AND SO LONG AND YET THAT'S A BIG THAT'S A THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BIG IN OUR IN OUR CITY. WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO TRAMPS TO BE? THOSE ARE THE PLACES WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THESE THINGS SO WE SHOULD THE CRB OR THE L P A. SHOULD NOT BE LOOKED AT AS A CHECK THE BOX. BOTH STAFF. AND THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO TAKE WHAT YOUR BOARDS DO SERIOUSLY.

AND USE THEM. AND I HOPE THIS WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD AND I WAS MIKE MYERS REPRESENTED. I WOULD SPEAK TO MIKE. BEFORE A MEETING. AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AFTER A MEETING, AND I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD BE DOING THAT WITH YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, I STILL SPEAK TO THE CITY

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MANAGER BEFORE MEETING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE NOT GETTING EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GET. SO AND I'M GOING TO ALSO SAY TO MR MARTEL HE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE MEET AND WE'RE DISCUSSING SUBSTANTIVE. ITEMS AT THE CRB NOT JUST WAIT FOR A PROJECT TO COME. BUT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT CODE. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO SEE OUR B TWO? B WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR BUDGET NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE. I MEAN, THIS IS A TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO THE C R A BUT THE BUDGET AND EVERYTHING ELSE. ORIGINATES AT THE CRB, AND YOU SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH L P A. THANK YOU. MR MCDONALD. CHANGES THE CHAIR. OKAY ANYBODY ELSE NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED IT? WHAT WAS THE COMMENT YOU MADE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE CRB, AND THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THAT WE WEREN'T GIVING THEM ENOUGH OR OR MORE AND I THINK THAT MIKE AND I HAD DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AGAIN. THIS IS ALL MY OPINION. THIS IS NOTHING ELSE BUT IT'S THE IF THE COMMISSIONERS DON'T TAKE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES IT MAKES THEM FEEL AS IF THEY'RE DOING A JOB FOR A REASON THAN THE REPRESENTATIVE TO SAY. WELL, IF I COULD MAKE IT, I WILL. IT'S LIKE GOING OUT TO LUNCH AT THE AT THE QANTAS. YEAH IF I CAN GET TO THE COLONIES TO HAVE LUNCH, I WILL. THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD. THIS IS A TO ME A BOARD IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING, AND NOT ONLY AND WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT THE BOARD HAS TO LOOK AT. WE SHOULD BE LIKE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE OF THE COMMISSION TO GET ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A FEW LITTLE CHANGES BEFORE IT GETS TO THE COMMISSION. MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE AND WE'VE DONE THAT. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD WHEN WE'VE CHANGED LITTLE THINGS WHEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TO SATISFY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLAINTS AND MAYBE GET THE PROJECT THROUGH WITHOUT ALL THE ACRIMONY, SO I REALLY BELIEVE IT IN OUR BOARDS, BUT IT TAKES ALL OF US TO MAKE THEM WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? GO AHEAD AND GET A SECOND CHANCE. YES I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THE POINT THAT WAS JUST MADE SERVING ON THE OPIE A, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CITY CANCELED MEETINGS. UM THAT WAS NOT A GOOD SITUATION, AND THAT WAS NOT PERCEIVED WELL. THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON OUR BOARDS.

MAKE A COMMITMENT. AH CARE A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THE CITY AND THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING AND TO NOT TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT. IS A WASTE. SO. I AGREE, RATHER THAN WAITING FOR ISSUES TO ALWAYS BE BROUGHT BEFORE US. THERE ARE MANY ISSUES OF CONCERN THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED BY THESE COMMITTEES. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF US WOULD MAKE THE EFFORT TO HAVE A LIST OF ISSUES THAT IN CASE NOTHING IS ON THE AGENDA THAT THEY CAN TAKE UNDER CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE SO I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING BUT I WAS THINKING OF DOING THIS AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I GUESS WE CAN DO IT RIGHT HERE. THIS. THE ACTIONS OF THE C R A SO YESTERDAY I WAS INVOLVED WITH , UM CR A PROJECT TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. UH HUH. AND OTHER UM AGENTS, ESPECIALLY PRIVATE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY , NAMELY ON MOUNT CALVARY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THAT WAS TO HAVE A HISTORIC DEDICATION. PLAQUE PUT ON THAT CHURCH IN THE ISSUE AREA. I THINK WE'VE HAD THREE SO FAR IN THAT AREA, AND THIS WAS 1/4 1, AND I THINK THAT IT HELPS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HELPS WITH THE JUST THE. THE FEEL OF THE AREA, AND, UM MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE RECOGNIZED AND THAT PEOPLE WILL KEEP THEIR PROPERTY IN GOOD STANDING AND SO ON, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND PANEL AND JORDAN'S AND THE JACKIE MAN THE REST OF THE STAFF. UM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO GET THAT, UM, THAT PLAQUE TOGETHER FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH AND TO HAVE IT DEDICATED AT MOUNT CALVARY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH YESTERDAY. OKAY? ANYTHING ELSE, OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. LET'S SEE GOING ON TO OUR NEXT WOULD BE, UH, I DON'T

[1. DOWNTOWN TRAM WRAP PROGRAM (RC): RESOLUTION No. 07-2023 CRA; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE BOARD TO APPROVE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DOWNTOWN TRAM WRAP PROGRAM TO INCREASE VISIBILITY, ATTRACT RIDERS, AND PROMOTE MICROTRANSIT SERVICE; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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NUMBER ONE DOWNTOWN TRAP RAP PROGRAM. THANK YOU, AFGHANISTAN LAST YEAR DIRECT DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD ON THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY COMING BEFORE YOU BECAUSE CITY COMMISSION HAD DIRECTED STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOME CONCEPTS FOR OUR EXISTING TRAMS TO MAKE THEM STAND OUT. AH THEY'RE GREAT ASSETS TO OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES THEM MORE ENJOYABLE. MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR WRITERS. UM SO STAFF MISTY. CURTAIN WHO'S OUR MARKETING MANAGER CAME UP WITH THESE CONCEPTS. UM THEY'RE BRIGHT COLORED VINYL WRAPS WITH SOME DIFFERENT ART ELEMENTS, INCLUDING SELFISH PALM TREES, FLOWERS THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE RAP. UM SO TODAY'S STAFF IS JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON THE STYLE. DOES THIS MEET THE THEME OF OUR DOWNTOWN? UM DOES THIS MEET THE CITY BRANDING JUST WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS SO WE CAN WHO FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN AND WRAPPING THE TRANS. THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 7-2023 TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM. AND THEY'RE THE PACKAGE INCLUDES DIFFERENT COLORS. UM SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME SOME COMMENTS ON THE COLORS, FONT TYPE. UM ANYTHING YOU CAN COME UP WITH.

AS A AS A AS I'VE LEARNED IN MY HOUSEHOLD. I DON'T PICK COLORS. IT'S JUST BETTER THAT WAY. I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT HAVING ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU WON'T SEE THE SAME GREEN. YOU'LL SEE WHERE THERE'S 10. I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PICK ONE COLOR. ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH? STYLE YES, JUST CHANGED IT TO WOULD YOU RATHER BE PALM TREES? JUDGES FISH, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IT BE SOME OF SOME OTHER STYLE YOU WANTED TO FLORIDA FRUIT TREES. DO YOU WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE WHAT'S IT RELATES TO THE STYLE OF THE RAP NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT COLORS AND ONE HAS HIBISCUS AND, UH, COUNTRIES. BUT I LIKE I DO LIKE IT AND I TO ME. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S HIBISCUS OR MIX IT UP. WE CAN MIX OF THE PALM TREES AND THE HIBISCUS AND THE DIFFERENT COLORS. I WISH THE CRB COULD PUT ON THIS, MR CHAIR. WE SPENT A YEAR COMING UP. WITH A WITH WITH THE DESIGN. TO PUT ON OUR SIGNS. REMEMBER THAT? OH YEAH. I DON'T SEE THEM ANYWHERE YET. BUT HERE. WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO. WITH HOW WE DESIGNED. ARE SIGNS SO THAT EVERYTHING IS INTEGRATED. WE DON'T HAVE AN INTEGRATED POLICY IF I COULD CHANGE INTO AS THE VERY BORED YOU AS MEMBER COMPANIES POINTING OUT THAT WAS TRUE THAT THERE WAS A GATEWAY SIGN DEBATE, AND YOU ACTUALLY DID A, UM SURVEYS ON THE INTERNET AND THROUGH EMAIL. I THINK THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE SURVEYS. UM THE ER A TODAY. COULD PASSED THE RESOLUTION AND AGREE THAT IT WANTS TO SPEND APPROXIMATELY THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU GUYS ARE IN THE RANGE AND YOU COULD DIRECT THAT IT BE RETURNED TO THE CRB. TO ADDRESS THE MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF STYLE, ETCETERA. IF IN FACT YOU'RE INCLINED TO DO THAT, OR YOU CAN ADOPT THIS. SAY YES AND GO WITH THIS PROJECT OR ANY ANY OPTIONS THERE OF BUT IF THE BOARD IS REACHING A CONSENSUS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE CRB, OR YOU WANT MORE. INPUT AS IT RELATES TO THE ART. YOU CAN ALWAYS AGREE THAT THE FUNDING AMOUNT IS IN THE RIGHT AREA. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT TO THE PENNY . IT'LL STILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL FUNDING, BUT THAT ALSO GIVES DIRECTION TO WHAT'S PRESENTED TO THE CRB BECAUSE COST PLAYS A ROLE. AND IF YOU COULD SPEND $50,000 A TRAM, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A LOT OF CRAZY IDEAS. BUT IF THIS IS IN THE REALM OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU COULD JUST TO PROVE THAT AND FECKLESS CRB OR COULD EXCHANGE THE IDEAS OF THE SIDE TODAY TO DO WHATEVER YOU THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATION. CONTINUE AND PLEASE. BESIDES NOT HAVING A BRANDING TOOL THAT THAT WE EMBRACE FOR THE ENTIRE CR A ACTUALLY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING, IT'S STUART. AND I THINK IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRAP BOXES. THAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE FRENCH NG OUT. I ALL I ALSO I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT NOW, UNTIL I THINK THE CRB SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THE FUTURE OF THE TRANS I

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THINK THAT'S A THAT'S I KNOW WE GET SOME FUNDING. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S A BIG COST.

AND WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THE TRAMS? I ALWAYS WANTED THEM TO BE MICRO TRANSIT. WELL, THEY DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY. IT'S SORT OF LIKE A GAME. I MEAN, THE OTHER DAY I WAS HERE AND THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT HAD RESERVED THE TREMOR WHOLE TRAM TO GO ON A HISTORIC TOUR. AND SO. I'M NOT SO SURE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR MONEY RIGHT NOW. THIS MAY BE A GREAT IDEA ONCE IT'S VETTED MORE BUT SPENDING EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY $10,000 SPENDING THAT ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE A GAME PLAN UNTIL WE KNOW WE WANT BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF A TOURIST THING. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO? KEEP THE TRAILERS A TOURIST THING? ARE WE GOING TO USE THEM FOR MORE THAN JUST PARKING? ARE WE GOING TO USE THEM FOR PARKING? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH? FOUND OCEAN? WHAT WHERE ARE THEY GOING? WE'VE NEVER REALLY WE HAVEN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, DONE THAT. SO I'M JUST GOING. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AT THIS POINT ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE SPEND $10,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY ACTUALLY AGREE, MY QUESTION WOULD BE QUESTIONS WILL BE HOW MANY TRAMS TOTAL DO WE HAVE NOW? AND HOW MANY ARE WE GOING TO BE? BRINGING IN. I KNOW THERE WAS GRANT MONEY FOR NEW ONES OR RIGHT. WE DO HAVE PAULA HERE CURRENTLY. AND THE GOAL. WE WERE JUST GONNA WRAP THREE AS INITIAL PHASE. UM AGAIN, THE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE TRAM WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TO PUT ON THE TRAM, SO COLOR JUST SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY POPS OUT. UM ALSO LIKE WE'RE JUST UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY IN POOR CONDITIONS, SO THEY ALREADY NEED WRAPPING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND . SO REGARDLESS WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST WHITE WRAPPING, THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO REDO THAT PRETTY SOON, RIGHT? THEY DO NEED TO BE CURRENTLY. I WANTED TO ALSO ADD THAT. WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO GET TO OUR CITIES , UH, AT OUR CITY SIGNS THAT THAT MEAN THAT'S STILL IN PROGRESS. THAT IS, IT'S IN FINAL DESIGN PHASE, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT CONSTRUCTED THIS.

YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT MATTERS OF WHAT COLOR WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED AND COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF WHAT THOSE COLORS ARE. BUT THIS THIS IS TOURISTS. THIS IS DOWNTOWN. THIS IS THEY'LL POP OUT, EVERYONE WILL SEE THEM AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN OR READ IT. I READ THE LETTERS, NOT ALL THE BUSINESSES, BUT THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT TRIM AND NO, THERE'S A TRAM AND THEY CAN GET ON THE TRIM AND IT CAN GET IT UP THERE.

WELLS FARGO, IT'S GOING TO BE EVERYWHERE. UH WE ATE THE MONEY BE NICE TO WHERE THEY STOPPED AT THE BENCHES AND STUFF. THESE ARE THOSE KIND OF COLORS THAT POP AND THE PEOPLE SEE IT. AND WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORS, THEY SEE IT, UM THEY REALIZED THAT THERE'S JUST NOT ONE TRAMP.

THERE'S NOT TOO. WOW, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX THERE'S PLENTY OF TRAMS AND I KNOW THAT TOM. UM.

BELIEVES AND I THINK A LOT OF US DO THAT WE DON'T NEED WE DON'T HAVE A BIG PARKING ISSUE RIGHT NOW. SOME PEOPLE DO BELIEVE THAT AND THIS THIS IS GONNA HELP WITH THAT ALSO THAT THEY CAN GET ON IT AND COME DOWNTOWN AND WAITING AND GO BACK. THESE TRIMS ARE USED A LOT RATHER THERE. UH RATHER PEOPLE COME AND FILL THEM UP AND GO FOR A TOUR. UM ALL THE LETTERS THAT WE READ FROM THOSE TOURS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OR AMAZING. I JUST LOVE READING THOSE LETTERS AND TELLING US HOW WONDERFUL A LITTLE TOWN IS. AND IT IS A WONDERFUL LITTLE TOWN. THOSE REGULAR TRENDS ARE DULL LOOKING. THEY DO NOTHING FOR US, AND THESE WILL DO A LOT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? JUST IN GENERAL. DOES THE CITY HAVE A BRAND PACKAGE? OR DOES THE CRE HAVE A BRAND PACKAGE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SELFISH IS SEEMS TO BE THE BRANDY PARTICULAR STYLE OF SALES? BECAUSE I MEAN, I. I HAVE MY OWN PERSONAL DESIGN, OPINIONS AND AESTHETICS. BUT I AM WARY ABOUT TASKING, A HODGEPODGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A BACKGROUND IN DESIGN TO WEIGH IN ON FONT. UM. AND I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN SOME, LIKE PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS ON THAT RATHER THAN US HERE, BUT I DO HAVE FUN TYPE FOR STEWART SO WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT. YEAH I KNOW THAT'S A BOND RIGHT? ASK BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AS A RUBRIC TO FALL BACK ON. SO I ACTUALLY LIKE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM I THINK THE I THINK THE

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TRAMS SHOULD STATE BE HERE TO STAY, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE REP. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER COMPANY THAT AND I THINK MAYBE, UH, COMMENT AS WELL THAT WE SHOULD, UH, SEND THIS BACK TO THE CRB. AND AT LEAST HAVE THEM, UH YOU KNOW, HAVE A REAL REVIEW OF IT AND THEN BRING HIM BACK TO THE C R. A I DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT WE DID WITH THE SIGNS AND GO BACK AND DO A SURVEY CHIP HAVE THE PUBLIC PICK ASSIGN? WE DON'T LIKE TO SIGN THE PUBLIC PICK TO ANOTHER SURVEY. YOU KNOW, I JUST , YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO RELY THAT UH, ON THE INPUT FROM THE CRB AND THAT OUR STAFF WILL PICK SOMETHING BECAUSE IF WE TRY TO GET SEVEN PEOPLE THAT COME UP WITH AN EXACT DESIGN THAT EACH ONE IS WILL BE JUST LIKE THE WHOLE SIGN ISSUE. AND SO, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS. SO I THINK THE BEST THING IS REFERRING BACK TO C R B, BUT COMMISSIONER CLARK WAS NEXT. SO MR CLARK, DID YOU WANTED TO GO? AH I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO FUND OR ANYTHING, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK, I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING, BUT JUST TO SIT BEFORE IT GOES BACK TO THE CRB. THAT UM, THE WORD TRAM IS FINE WITH ME, AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE CERTAIN THINGS. BUT WHERE IT SAYS DOWNTOWN COURTESY. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT WHAT COURTESIES AND THAT'S BECAUSE I DON'T SEE WELL, BUT ON THE ONE THAT'S A CITY TRAM. NOW I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE WORD COURTESY THERE SO THAT I ITALICIZED TYPE. PRINT FOR THAT . I DON'T IT LOOKS LIKE COUNTRY . I THOUGHT IT WAS DOWNTOWN COUNTRY AT FIRST, SO I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. BUT SO IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR FOR THAT. WHATEVER FRONT WE USE, AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT TRIM THAT WE HAVE. I'M THINKING THAT THE BLUE AND THE GOLD IN SOME WAY AND THEN MAKE THE REST OF THE TRAM GOLD OR SOMETHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GOLD ONE. THAT PARTICULAR COLOR GOLD THAT OR CITY GOAL, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE GREEN LIME GREEN AND THE BLUE AND THE PINK, WHICH ARE CALLED THEM NEON TYPE COLORS, BUT I THINK THAT OUR CITY UM, GOLD IS A GOOD COLOR, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH. BUT I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO THE CRB WITH ALL OF OUR PARTICULAR INSTRUCTIONS FOR THEM TO LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM BY HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS WEEK OR SOMETHING, WHETHER BY EMAIL OR SOMETHING FROM MR MARTEL. THAT HE HAS CONTACTED THE CRB MEMBERS THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS AND ASKING THEM TO TAKE THEIR JOBS. SERIOUSLY I KNOW THAT THE LAST TIME I WAS A LITTLE BIT MIFFED, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY REPRESENTATIVE, I THINK, IS THE CRB CHAIRPERSON, AND THEN I HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THEY DID CALL AND SAY THAT THEY COULDN'T COME. THERE WAS AN EXCUSE ABSENCE, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE THE CHAIRPERSON. BUT I THINK STAFF NEEDS TO DEVELOP THAT RELATIONSHIP WHERE PEOPLE NO ONE HAS AN EXPECTATION THAT A MEETING IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND SO THAT THEY CONTINUOUSLY HAVE THEIR SCHEDULE. UPDATED AND HAVE THE CITY'S CRB SCHEDULED AS A PRIORITY ON THEIR SCHEDULE, AS LONG AS WE'RE ASKING THEM TO SERVE. WHAT IS IT? YOU WANT ME TO TELL THE C R A MEMBERS JUST TO REMIND THEM THAT YOU KNOW WE THEY'RE THERE AND WHAT THEIR SKIN WHAT THE SCHEDULES ARE. WHAT? HOW MANY MEETINGS DO WE HAVE, UM, UPCOMING AND THAT WE'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL TALK TO MY PERSON AND I'M SURE THAT EVERYBODY WILL TALK TO THIS . YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED ME TO CONTACT THEM. AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME TO TELL THEM JUST THAT TO COME TO THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH. OKAY? I'M SORRY.

THE CHAIR OF THE CRV, WHICH IS SISTER CHAIRPERSON, MAYBE IT WAS LAST YEAR. SORRY OKAY. OKAY SORRY. THANK YOU. MR CAMPAIGNING WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE AND I AGREE IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE CRB. AND INCLUDE IN THE DISCUSSION. JUST A BRUISE IN BROAD OUTLINE. WE KNOW WHAT THEY SAY. WE WANT TO ROUTE TO GO FROM HERE TO HERE. BUT IN A BROAD OUTLINE WHAT WE EXPECT THE TRAMS TO DO WHAT WE EXPECT THEM TO BE AND IT MAYBE WE EXPECT THEM TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CRB WILL RECOMMEND. SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THE CIA DIRECTOR ADDRESS A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM. THE TRAMS WERE BUDGETED FOR THIS FISCAL

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YEAR AND ARE IN PLACE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAM PROGRAM ITSELF. THAT REALLY ISN'T PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THEM ADDRESS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OR NOT BE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE WEEDS OF THE STUDY ENTIRE TRAM PROGRAM OVER THREE WRAPS AT THE SAME TIME, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A SEPARATE TRAM AGENDA. THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO ADD JUST ONE SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR SECOND? THAT MOTION? OKAY.

THANK YOU, UM THE COLORS ARE TROPICAL AND WE ARE A TROPICAL LITTLE TOWN. WE HAVE TO BEACH AND THE RIVERS AND THE PLAY AND A LOT OF FLORIDA STYLE CLOTHING AND ALL THAT. SOLD HERE. UM I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT GOLD, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE GOING SUNSHINE. AGAIN I THINK IF YOU'RE SENDING IT BACK TO THE CRB HAVE DISCUSSED THIS. LET THEM DISCUSS IT. AND SO WOULD YOU FINISHED WITH THAT MOTION? I'LL HAVE EMOTION ABOUT THE JUST TRAINED DISCUSSION IN GENERAL. OKAY SO DO WE. HAVE WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ? OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLARK, SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER COMPANY. DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION? IT ALL HAD SOMETHING.

OH, THIS IS WHAT WE GOT. MARK BREAKFAST AT 208 SOUTHEAST AS EOLA STREET. UM THIS WHOLE CONCEPT HAS BEEN A BIG THING FOR ME AND, UM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS BEING RECORDED BECAUSE I AGREE WITH TOM SO I WANT I WANT IT ON THE RECORD, BUT BUT I AND IT AFFECTS THIS RAP PROGRAM. I THINK IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. TOM MENTIONED SITUATION YOU GOT WITH SOMEBODY COMING TO DO A HISTORICAL TOUR RIGHT? AND THAT'S A NEED. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A NEED. THAT'S FREE. THAT'S A NEED THAT COULD BE PAID FOR. UM WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT NEED RIDES TO GET TO HERE TO THERE. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FREE, BUT THAT'S A NEED. IT COULD BE PAID FOR, AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT NEED YOU TO GET FROM PARKING TO THEIR JOBS, RIGHT AND WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT NEEDS. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE. MAYBE THEY NEED TO GET OVER FROM THE ISLAND. WHATEVER. IT WOULD HELP IF THE RAP PROGRAM SOMEWHAT TIED TO THOSE NEEDS SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD LOOK AND SEE. OH I SEE THAT ONE AND I'M GOING TO WORK. THAT'S THE ONE I WANT OR I SEE THAT ONE THAT'S JUST GOING TO GO AROUND AND I SEE THAT ONE. THAT'S A HISTORICAL TOUR. I'M GOING TO PAY AND IT MAY TAKE ME TWO HOURS TO GET TO WHERE I WANT TO GO. BUT I JUST THINK THAT THE RAP PROGRAM WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF YOU COULD BE MATCHED UP TO SOME DEGREE WITH NEEDS. OKAY THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. MARKET. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THE THIS WAS PRESENTED TO DB, A MAIN STREET AND THE CREEK DISTRICT, THE ARTS DISTRICT AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE CONCEPTS AND THE COLORS. SO I DO WANT TO MAKE A RECORD, SO WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO THE CRB. I THINK IN ALL IN FAVOR IS OKAY FOR THAT. SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE AYE OPPOSED. OKAY MOTION CARRIES WANT TO MAKE A MOTION REAL QUICK. THAT UH, WE BRING TO THE DESCEND TO THE CRB. A MOTION THAT THEY HAVE A BROAD DISCUSSION. ON WHAT WE EXPECT TO TRAIN TRAM SYSTEM TO BEAT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. OKAY? WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT . OKAY SO THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COMPANY SECOND BY, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER BOARD MEMBER CAMP EVERY SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER RICH AND HE DISCUSSION YES. UM. SO JUST THE OTHER NIGHT. THREE COUPLES WHO LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD CAME DOWNTOWN AND WE ALL SAID, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF THE TRAM ON THE WEEKENDS TOOK AN EXTENDED ROUTE DOWN EAST OCEAN AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO HOP ON. HOP ONTO THAT AND GO BACK TO OUR HOUSES AND THAT AND THEN THINK IT GOES TO THE BOARD MEMBER CAMPAIGNS. COMMENT IS CAN WE EXPAND IT BEYOND THE TOURIST TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO A GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE? SO THAT'S THIS IS A VERY WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION TO HEAVEN. I'M GLAD HE'S WILLING TO TAKE IT ON WITH HIS BOARD. ANYBODY ELSE PUBLIC COMMENT. IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES, SO I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, SO I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. SO I'LL GO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.