Aug 01, 2023 Community Redevelopment Board

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OKAY. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

CHAIR CAMPENNI HERE.

VICE MEMBER SCHROTH.

HERE. BOARD MEMBER LEWIS.

BOARD MEMBER MCCHRYSTAL.

HERE. AND BOARD MEMBER OWENS HERE.

OKAY. CAN I GET.

LET'S RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

WELL, I'M SORRY. NUMBER SIX TO NUMBER THREE.

IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS CHANGED.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

OKAY. THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AS CHANGED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

AYE, AYE. OKAY.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SECOND. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ALL RIGHT. A REQUEST FROM 151 NORTHWEST FLAGLER TO CONSIDER A PETITION FOR A MINOR URBAN CODE.

[2. A REQUEST FROM 151 NW FLAGLER, LLC, TO CONSIDER A PETITION FOR A MINOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE FOR PUBLIC ART (QUASI-JUDICIAL)]

SO GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CHRIS MCCRANE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR A MINOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF REQUIRED PUBLIC ART AT THE WILLOWS CUSTOM YACHTS SITE.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN SECTION 1102 .00 OF THE CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ON JULY 17TH, 2023, 51 MAIL NOTICES WERE SENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN 300FT OF THE PARCEL, AND A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY INFORMING OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

THE 1.79 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTHWEST FLAGLER AVENUE, WEST OF THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER, NORTH OF THE RECENTLY APPROVED ATLANTIC MARINA.

ATLANTIC POINT MARINA AND SOUTH OF THE HARBRIDGE CONDOMINIUMS. THIS PARCEL IS ZONED URBAN WATERFRONT WITH A MARINE INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND IS SITUATED WITHIN THE CRA.

ON JUNE 26TH, 2023, THE CITY COMMISSION GRANTED A MAJOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE VIA RESOLUTION 42 DASH 2023 TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN APPROXIMATE 18,000 SQUARE FOOT BOAT BOAT SALES AND SERVICE FACILITY FOR WILLIS CUSTOM YACHTS.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 301.03, THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A MINOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PERMITTING AND INSTALLATION OF THE PUBLIC ART.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS COMMISSIONED A LOCAL ARTIST BY THE NAME OF CASEY SCOTT TO CREATE AN ORIGINAL 36 BY 48 INCH OIL PAINTING OF A BLUE MARLIN, BREACHING THE WATER, WHICH WOULD BE DISPLAYED ON SITE WITHIN THE SALES OFFICE AND THEN REPRODUCED FOR LARGER SCALE INSTALLATION.

THE PIECE WILL BE PRINTED ON A HIGH RESOLUTION THREE M OUTDOOR WRAP MATERIAL WHICH HAS A 5 TO 7 LIFE, 5 TO 7 YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY AND REQUIRES MINIMAL MAINTENANCE ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT.

THE THREE METER WRAP WILL BE MUCH MORE DURABLE AND CAN BE EASILY BE REPLACED DUE TO NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR.

AS A CONDITION OF THIS MINOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT, PROPERTY OWNER OR SUCCESSOR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND CARE OF THE WORK OF ART, WHICH SHALL BE RETAINED ON SITE IN THE APPROVED LOCATION AND MAY NOT BE REMOVED, REPLACED OR ALTERED WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS OF REVIEW OUTLINED FOR PUBLIC ART, THE PROPOSED ART WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

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COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT CREATE A SAFETY HAZARD AND DOESN'T REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY MAINTENANCE.

PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 300 AND 108, THE REQUIRED MINIMUM COST FOR PUBLIC ART MUST BE EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN 1% OF THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.

THE PROPOSED ART, WHICH INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL COMMISSIONED PIECE AND MATERIALS AND INSTALLATION OF THE OUTDOOR MURAL, IS APPROXIMATELY $55,000, WHICH IS 1% OF THE EXPECTED VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION COST OF $5.5 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING.

SO THE PETITION CONFORMS TO THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 11 01.1, ONE OF THE CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ADDITIONALLY, THE PETITION WAS REVIEWED BY NANCY TURELL FROM THE MARTIN COUNTY ARTS COUNCIL AND DETERMINED TO CONFORM TO THE REVIEW STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC ART.

THEREFORE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT APPROVAL FOR THIS MINOR URBAN CODE CONDITIONAL USE VIA CRB RESOLUTION ZERO TWO DASH 2023 TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED ART TO BE INSTALLED AT 151 NORTHWEST FLAGLER AVENUE.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION AS WELL, AND THEN WE CAN BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

PLEASE. IT'S.

THINGS. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MATTHEW BARNES, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH WGI.

ALSO HERE WITH ME IS CASEY SCOTT, THE THE COMMISSIONED ARTIST HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PIECE OR THE MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CASEY, HE'S HERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO SHARE THAN WHAT CHRIS ALREADY WENT THROUGH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHERE IT IS.

CHRIS EXPLAINED THAT IT'S BETWEEN THE HARBORAGE TO THE NORTH AND THE ATLANTIC PORT MARINA PROJECT TO THE SOUTH.

BY THE WAY, CASEY IS ACTUALLY DOING ONE OF THE MURALS AT THE ATLANTIC POINT MARINA PROJECT, TOO.

SO THAT'LL BE. YOU KNOW, A CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT ELEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN CASE WE CAN EXPAND UPON THIS, IF YOU LIKE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WAS ORIGINALLY FROM MICHIGAN BUT HAS BEEN IN SOUTH FLORIDA FOR A WHILE.

ALSO IS WAS A GOLFER FOR A WHILE AND AND HAS SOME SOME PRODUCTS THAT ARE INSPIRED YOU KNOW MARINE INSPIRED PRODUCTS RELATED TO GOLF AS WELL.

BUT DOES HAS DONE A LOT OF THESE KIND OF LARGE SCALE MURALS WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

SO THIS IS SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL IT RESIDENTIAL SIZED AND TYPE WORK THAT CASEY HAS DONE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS OUTSIDE OF OTHER BUILDINGS.

I KNOW HE DID A BUILDING RECENTLY FOR FOR GREG NORMAN.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.

THE THE MURAL HE'S DOING AT ATLANTIC POINT IS AN OUTDOOR MURAL AS WELL.

IT IS ON THAT CENTER PANEL OF THE WESTERN FACING WALL, WHICH IS, WE THINK, THE PERFECT LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, FACES OUT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY.

IT'LL BE VISIBLE BY TO EVERYONE GOING ON ON DIXIE HIGHWAY.

AND THEN WE TOOK CASEY DID A2D CONCEPT SKETCH OF THAT AND WE TOOK THAT ONTO OUR THREE DIMENSIONAL RENDERING, ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING AND APPLIED WHAT WE THOUGHT.

THE COLOR SCHEME WOULD PROBABLY BE.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE PROJECT, WHAT YOU WOULD WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, AND THEN THE ORIGINAL, AS MIGHT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, WILL BE HOUSED IN THE SALES OFFICE THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING WHILE THE MURALS ON THE OUTSIDE.

AND THEN I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE CRITERIA.

OF COURSE, CHRIS TOUCHED UPON SOME OF THESE AND IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT WE BELIEVE IT MEETS ALL THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR THE PUBLIC ART.

SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS ON JUST THE MAINTENANCE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES WHAT STAFF'S PRESENTING AS A CONDITION, YOU KNOW, CREATE ANY HEARTBURN FOR YOU GUYS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT YOU CAN PERFORM? YES, IT IS.

THAT'S FINE. ANYONE ELSE HAS?

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YES, PLEASE. FRANK, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. SO YOU GET A $5.5 MILLION BUILDING AND YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND $55,000 FOR.

A WRAP. WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS LIKE A PLASTIC WRAP? THE SAME THING WE'RE GOING TO USE ON THESE GOLF CARTS.

I'M NOT RIGHT. DESCRIBE IT TO ME AGAIN.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE THE PUNISHMENT DOESN'T FIT THE CRIME HERE.

WELL, LET ME DEFER.

GOT A GREAT $5.5 MILLION BUILDING AND.

YOU GOT YOU GOT TO WRAP.

ALL RIGHT. I'M LISTENING. HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M CASEY SCOTT.

WHAT THEY'RE PURCHASING AS THE PUBLIC ART IS, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE A LARGE SCALE OIL PAINTING.

AND WE FOUND IN THE PAST THAT WHEN I DO MURALS OVER ABOUT 3 OR 4 YEARS, I HAVE TO DO A LOT OF UPKEEP ON THEM WHERE THESE NEW WRAPS.

SO WE'LL DO THE PAINTING THAT'LL LIVE INSIDE AN ETERNITY, HOPEFULLY, AND THE OUTSIDE WE CAN REPRODUCE IN THIS WRAPS AND THE WRAPS AND THEY LASTS A LONG TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK A FEW SLIDES IS A CAPITANA HOTEL DOWN IN KEY WEST.

SO THE WRAPS HOLD UP LONGER TO THE SUN.

YEAH. YEAH. AND IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE A WRAP? IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF SARAN WRAP ON THAT BUILDING? NO, NO.

DO YOU EVER GET DOWN TO KEY WEST? I TRY NOT TO.

TRY NOT TO. WELL, ONE OF THEM'S DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S AMAZING. OKAY.

AND I'M A LITTLE BIASED, AND THE SHEEN IS NOT GOING TO BE LIKE SOME.

NO, IT'LL BE GLOSSY SHEEN.

NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK. SO TELL ME.

IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF PLASTIC ON THAT BUILDING.

IT'S NOT. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO HEAR.

NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE PLASTIC.

OKAY, GOOD. NEXT, HOW DO YOU PASS THE CULTURAL, CULTURALLY DIVERSE ELEMENT OF THIS CODE, THE CULTURALLY DIVERSE ELEMENT OF THIS CODE? DID YOU SEE THAT IN THERE? NO, I DID NOT SEE THAT.

IS THAT MARLIN A CULTURALLY DIVERSE FISH? OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A CONTRACT, I BELIEVE, WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL, AND THEY APPROVE THAT IT'S REAL ART.

AND SO THAT TAKES IT OFF THIS BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY WHAT WHAT IS ART AND WHAT ISN'T.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY, SINCE WE GIVE IT OUT TO THE EXPERTS, WE'LL LET THE EXPERTS DECIDE THAT IT'S REAL ART.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. SO THE CONDITION IS THAT THEY MUST REPRODUCE THIS AND KEEP IT THROUGH THE YEARS SO THAT IT DOESN'T FADE AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.

AND SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN IT DOESN'T LOOK QUITE LIKE THE NEW ONE, THEY WILL REPRODUCE IT.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITION, CORRECT? SO THAT IS CORRECT.

IT IS IN OUR CODE AND IT IS BEING REITERATED IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN THIS ARTWORK IN PERPETUITY.

THEY CAN'T REPLACE IT OR THEY CAN REPLACE IT AS THE SAME EXACT MURAL.

BUT IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT, ALTER IT, THE LOCATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.

WHAT AFFECTS THAT LIKE? IS IT A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION? IS IT. IT'S YES, IT'S MORE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO CITE THE PROPERTY OWNER IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN OUTLINED IN AN APPROVAL ORDER.

SO SO BUT AT SOME LEVEL, IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL BY A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR A COMPLAINT OR OTHERWISE.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, IT WOULD IT WOULD START AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LEVEL AND HOPEFULLY BE REPAIRED BY THE RESOLVED AT THAT POINT OR EITHER COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

AND WE WON'T ASK THE MAGISTRATE HOW HE'LL RULE ON THAT.

WELL, I'M JUST IF STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND THE APPLICANT IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I TRUST THAT WE FOUND OURSELVES AT A LEVEL THAT I THINK THAT GIVES ENOUGH POWER, NOT POWER, BUT ABILITY FOR THE STAFF TO ACTUALLY PURSUE.

YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? PUBLIC COMMENT. WELL, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY NICK.

SECONDED BY SETH.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER OWENS.

YES. BOARD MEMBER.

MCCHRYSTAL. YES.

VICE CHAIR. SCHROTH.

YES. AND CHAIR COMPANY.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THE YOU WANTED TO DO THE TRAM NEXT.

[6. TRAM PROGRAM ACTION PLAN]

SO TRAM IS UP.

DID WE DID YOU WANT TO OPEN IT? THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKAGE ARE BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE LAST CRB MEETING.

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OKAY. DO WE WANT TO THESE ARE ALL OF THEM DO.

AND THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

IF YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE FOR THE ORDER, ADDITIONAL ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ADD, WE CAN DO THAT AT THIS MEETING.

OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MOVE THE ORDER UP? BECAUSE IF WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO THE CRA, THEY MAY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THIS BOARD.

DO YOU SEE THAT? OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TURN THE LIGHTS OFF BOARD? YEAH. LIGHTS OFF. YES, PLEASE.

AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE, TOO, IF YOU WANT TO PULL.

YEAH, I HAVE IT HERE. PAGE 168.

THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT IT RED, OR CAN WE ALL SEE IT? I CAN SEE IT. YEAH. OKAY.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDER SO THAT WE CAN SAY THESE THREE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT OR THESE FIVE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT? I THINK YOU START TO GET INTO.

I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST OPEN FOR.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. SO I THINK YOU START TO GET INTO THINGS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF DO WITH CURRENT STAFF OR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, ONE, TWO AND THREE.

ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

KIND OF JUMP OUT AT ME AS LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND ASSUME THAT WE HAVE STAFF TO DO THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THOSE IN THE SHORT TERM WITHOUT ANY COST.

AND THEN YOU GET INTO KIOSKS AND SHELTERS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.

MORE STICKS AND BRICKS KIND OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A COST KIND OF TAG TO THAT ITEM.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE ADVERTISING AND SPONSORSHIPS MIGHT FALL LIKE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, ITEM NINE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT FALL INTO THAT FIRST ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR CATEGORY, RIGHT? LIKE ONE 1 IN 4 ITS MARKETING IN THEM.

ADDITIONAL MARKETING. SO MARKETING AND THEN ADDITIONAL MARKETING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 8 OR 9 OR ADVERTISING AND ADVERTISING.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE AND FOUR ARE THE SAME.

SO ONE, TWO AND THREE.

I LIKE WHERE THEY ARE.

WELL, FRANK.

YEAH. SO LOOKING AT THIS, I SEE THE FIRST FOUR ARE MARKETING, ADVERTISING, TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO USE THIS, SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL MOVE UP. THE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THAT, LIKE THE TRAM WRAP FOR ADVERTISING AND MORE ADVERTISING.

THAT'LL GET THE FIRST SIX ALL ON ADVERTISING TO, TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO USE THIS.

AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS ABOUT MAKING IT WHAT'S EXISTING NOW BETTER.

SO IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE THAT'S THE GOAL, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY JUST DO IT THAT WAY.

OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S I THINK ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS ARE GREAT.

I WOULD JUST SINCE IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING BUT IT DOES REQUIRE STAFF TIME TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY. I PUT 13 RIGHT BELOW THE MARKETING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN COORDINATE OUR TRAM WITH THE MARTY AND MAKE MAKE IT SO THAT THE TRAM ACTUALLY CAN FEED PEOPLE TO MARTY AND MAYBE MAKE IT A MUCH BETTER SYSTEM OR AT LEAST SOME BETTER. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY, I WOULD LEAVE THE MONEY ITEMS BELOW THE OTHERS FOR NOW, AND THAT'S THE WAY I'D LIKE TO PRESENT IT TO THE CRA IF EVERYONE AGREED IS IN AGREEMENT.

YEAH. AND I THINK.

DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS I MEAN, ITEM NUMBER ONE COULD IN THEORY HAVE MONEY TIED TO IT BECAUSE I MEAN, ADVERTISING MAY IN FACT COST MONEY, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE DIFFERENT LIKE ONES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, ONES MORE, YOU KNOW, MARKETING DOLLARS.

SO LIKE MAYBE THIS BREAKS INTO 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT GROUPS AND EACH ONE KIND OF HAS LIKE A BUDGET FROM THE, FROM PUBLIC WORKS SAYING LIKE, LISTEN, YOU KNOW, THESE FIVE ITEMS WE CAN DO AND THIS IS THE COST AND IT'S A RELATIVELY NOMINAL COST.

YOU KNOW, THESE COUPLE OF ITEMS, TRAM STATIONS AND SUCH LIKE NOW WE'RE TALKING BIG DOLLARS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COST NEEDS TO INCLUDE STAFF TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT IT MAY BE WORTH HAVING, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO LIKE WHAT STAFF HAS THE TIME TO DO UNDER THESE PROGRAMS AND

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WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WE LEAVE STAFF TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PUT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2025 OR 2024, AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO THIS BOARD AND IT'LL EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO THE CRA.

BUT I THINK IF WE JUST REARRANGE IT THE WAY WE HAD SAID, I THINK WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GIVEN THE CRA SOMETHING TO PONDER.

SHORT TERM. LONG TERM AND.

EXACTLY. SO YEAH, PLUS THE THE IF WE IF WE DO IT THAT WAY, THE MARKETING ITSELF FIRST WILL IDENTIFY OR EVEN WILL TELL US, HEY, YES OR NO, ARE WE GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO MAKE THE THING BETTER? YEAH, EXACTLY.

YEAH. IS IT WORTH IT? EXACTLY.

OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT A MOTION OR.

THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH? IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT TO CRA AND GET APPROVAL.

OKAY, SO MOVING ON.

PRESENTATION OF THE BURP, JORDAN.

[3. PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR FY 2023 CYCLE #2]

ALL RIGHTY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

CRB BOARD MEMBERS JORDAN PINKSTON SIERRA, PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM IS AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE VISIBLE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE CRA.

THE PROGRAM PROVIDES A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT UP TO $10,000 OF PUBLIC FUNDS PER PROPERTY TO MATCH PRIVATE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE DESIGN AND COMPLETION OF PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATED ANNUALLY BY THE CRA.

THE PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED BASED ON FOUR CATEGORIES, INCLUDING OVERALL VISUAL IMPACT OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

HOW THE PROJECT RELATES TO THE URBAN STREET AND IMPROVES PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY.

PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO GRANT REQUEST RATIO AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT HELP PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILDING.

THE PROGRAM AIMS TO ENCOURAGE SHADE OVER PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, IMPROVE CONDITIONS FOR WALKING AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES.

AND WE RECENTLY AMENDED THE PROGRAM TO INCLUDE GUIDELINES THAT ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO VOLUNTARILY UPGRADE LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENTS.

THE CRA DID PUBLIC OUTREACH TO ENCOURAGE THE BUSINESSES TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM, AND OUTREACH EFFORTS INCLUDED ELECTRONIC NEWSLETTER DISTRIBUTING FLIERS, MAILING POSTCARDS TO LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE ALLOCATED $50,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 30,000 OF WHICH WAS AWARDED TO THREE APPLICANTS DURING THE PREVIOUS CYCLE.

THE BOARD REQUESTED TO HAVE A SECOND APPLICATION CYCLE THIS FISCAL YEAR IN HOPES TO AWARD THE REMAINING 20,000 ALLOCATED FOR THE PROGRAM.

THE CRA RECEIVED SEVEN APPLICATIONS FOR THE SECOND FISCAL 23 YEAR, WHICH EXCEEDS THE TOTAL REMAINING FUNDS BASED ON THE EVALUATION MATRIX ADOPTED BY THE BOARD.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED EACH APPLICATION AND WILL PRESENT THE ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EACH.

IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD REVIEW ALL APPLICATIONS PRIOR TO ALLOCATING FUNDING.

AND IF BOARD IS OKAY WITH THAT, I'LL PROCEED.

OKAY. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING BEFORE WE.

DISCUSS ANYTHING. EVERYONE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT? YEAH, SURE.

OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD.

OKAY. SO AMERICAN SPRINKLER AND PUMP LOCATED ON 834 SOUTHEAST LINCOLN AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE CURB APPEAL ON A HIGH TRAVELED ROAD BY REFRESHING THE LANDSCAPING AND ADDING LIGHTING.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $16,524.

EXISTING LANDSCAPING IS MINIMAL AND NEEDS TO BE REFRESHED.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY A FEW PALM TREES AND BUSHES THAT REMAIN AS PART OF THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE.

PROPOSED LANDSCAPING WILL INCLUDE LANDSCAPE BEDS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING ENTRANCE AND IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING FENCING THAT HIDES PARKING AND SUPPLY STORAGE, AS WELL AS NEW SOD AND SHADE TREES ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY.

PLANTS WILL INCLUDE COCO PALMS AND OAK, CHRISTMAS PALMS, PODOCARPUS AND PLUMBAGO.

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IMPROVEMENTS. A NEW TRANSFORMER HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR UPLIGHTING THE TREES AND POSSIBLE PATH LIGHTING ALONG THE ENTRY SIDEWALK, AS WELL AS A RAISED FLOWER BED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE DOOR.

THE IMAGES YOU SEE ON THE SIDE ARE ONLY FOR INSPIRATION.

ALL PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS QUALIFY FOR FUNDING UNDER OUR CURRENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

IRRIGATION SHALL BE INSTALLED TO PRESERVE THE LANDSCAPING AND COST WILL BE INCURRED BY THE APPLICANT.

ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE VISUAL, URBAN STREET AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CREEK INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND A HIGH PRIORITY AREA FOR THIS PROGRAM.

THE PROPERTY IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE CRA SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS DONE ON DIXIE HIGHWAY AND FLORIDA STREET.

THE SECOND APPLICATION WAS EDWARD JONES OFFICE, LOCATED ON 522 COLORADO AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE CURB APPEAL ON A HIGH TRAVELED ROAD BY REFRESHING THE LANDSCAPING, UPDATING BENCHES, ADDING NEW PARKING STOPS AND EXTERIOR PAINT.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COST WILL BE $7,525.

LANDSCAPING ON THE SIDE BUILDING WILL BE ENHANCED BY REMOVING ALL DEAD FOLIAGE, MULCH AND WEEDS.

MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT CHOICES WILL BE PLANTED AS SUCH AS BROMELIADS, HIBISCUS, CACTI, FLOWERING BUSHES AND RIVERWALK WILL BE LAID.

A SMALL BORDER LIP WILL BE ADDED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE LANDSCAPE TO KEEP ROCK AND SOIL FROM ERODING.

THE APPLICANT PLANS ON ADDING TWO NEW PLANTER BENCHES FOR CURB APPEAL AND FUNCTIONALITY FOR CUSTOMERS.

EXISTING PARKING STOPS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED DUE TO CRACKING.

THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CAULK ALL WINDOWS, DOORS AND CRACKS IN STUCCO.

THEN PRESSURE WASH THE EXISTING BUILDING TO PREP FOR PAINT.

THE EXTERIOR OF THE SIDE BUILDING AND MAIN BUILDING WILL BE PAINTED AND SEALED WITH PURE WHITE.

THE EXISTING GROUND PAVERS WILL ALSO BE PRESSURE WASHED AND SEALED.

IMPROVEMENTS QUALIFY FOR FUNDING AND STAFF RECOMMENDS.

PROS INC LOCATED AT.

OH, I'M SORRY. IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A VISUAL URBAN STREET AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CREEK ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WHERE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED DUE TO HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.

OK CYPRUS, INC.

LOCATED AT 808 SOUTHEAST DIXIE HIGHWAY.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE CURB APPEAL ON A HIGH TRAVELED ROAD.

BY REFRESHING THE LANDSCAPING AND ADDING NEW PAVERS TO THEIR ENTRYWAY, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $13,685.

EXISTING LANDSCAPE AND THE ISLAND BUFFER BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE PARKING LOT IS MINIMAL AND INCLUDES MULCH GRASS AND TWO PALM TREES.

THERE IS CURRENTLY NO IRRIGATION.

THE APPLICANT PLANS ON ADDING LOW MAINTENANCE AND DROUGHT TOLERANT CORAL ROCK, ESTHETIC BOULDERS, LITERARY FLOWERING.

THE PALM TREES WILL STAY AND NEW LANDSCAPING SELECTIONS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE ENTRYWAY UPGRADES AS WELL.

THE EXISTING ENTRYWAY CONSISTS OF PAVERS THAT ARE CAUSING ISSUES FOR THE APPLICANT.

THE NATURE OF THEIR BUSINESS IS PROVIDING MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES WALKERS AND WHEELCHAIRS THAT NEED A SMOOTH TRANSITIONAL SURFACE.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO EXPRESSED ISSUES WITH FLOODING.

THE APPLICANT PLANS TO PREP AND REPAVE THE EXISTING ENTRANCE SPACE WITH JOINTLESS LAID TRAVERTINE.

PREPARATION WORK INCLUDES REMOVAL OF EXISTING PAVERS, ADDING ROCK BASE TO MINIMIZE SINKING, ADDING AN EIGHTH INCH PITCH FOR PROPER DRAINAGE, AND THE LANDSCAPING WILL FRAME THE ENTRYWAY AND REMAIN COHESIVE WITH THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING.

ISLAND IMPROVEMENTS.

ALL IMPROVEMENTS QUALIFY FOR FUNDING UNDER OUR PROGRAM, GUIDELINES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

EXTEND LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY TO THE CORNER OF DIXIE HIGHWAY AND LINCOLN AVENUE.

THE CORNER ISLAND SHOULD INCLUDE DROUGHT TOLERANT, LOW LYING PLANTS TO ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC VISIBILITY, WHILE LINCOLN AVENUE HAS LIMITED GREEN SPACE AND MAY BENEFIT FROM EXTREME DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS OR HARDSCAPE.

IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A VISUAL URBAN STREET AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CREEK DISTRICT, WHICH IS NOW ZONED CREEK INDUSTRIAL.

THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP LOCATED ON 622 SOUTH COLORADO AVENUE.

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IF INCLUDE UPDATING THE LANDSCAPING, RESURFACING THE PARKING LOT AND MURAL PRESERVATION.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COST WILL BE $15,606.

REFRESH LANDSCAPING IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ALONG THE PARKING SPACES ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT PLANS ON ADDING LOW MAINTENANCE AND DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS THAT ARE COHESIVE WITH THE CREEK DISTRICT TO ADD GROUND COVER AND ESTHETIC APPEAL.

PLANTS INCLUDE SHRUBS, JUNIPER, CROWN OF THORNS, CROTONS AND FOUR FOXTAIL PALMS IN THE PARKING LOT.

BED. THE EXISTING PARKING LOT WAS RESURFACED FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT NEEDS REPAVING ONCE AGAIN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXISTING PAVEMENT IS CRACKING AND WORN.

NEW ROCK WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL PARKING.

THE MARTIN COUNTY HISTORICAL MURAL ON THE NORTH WALL OF THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP BUILDING WAS DESIGNED AND PAINTED BY STUDENTS, FACULTY, ALUMNI AND FRIENDS OF MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL IN THE FALL OF 2018.

HOWEVER, THE MURAL DID NOT RECEIVE A CLEAR COAT FINISH FOR PRESERVATION AND NEEDS LIGHT CLEANING AND CLEAR COAT APPLICATION TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROJECT.

ALL PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS QUALIFY FOR FUNDING UNDER OUR PROGRAM GUIDELINES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT HAVE A VISUAL URBAN AND STREET.

URBAN STREET AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WHERE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED DUE TO HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.

OKAY. AND THEN AVONLEA COMMERCE CENTER, LOCATED ON 435 NORTHEAST BAKER ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE CURB APPEAL FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CUSTOMERS IN THEIR BUSINESS COMPLEX.

IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE UPDATING THE PAVER ENTRYWAY FROM BAKER ROAD, REFRESHING POTTED PLANTS, REPLACING FADED AWNINGS, ADDING BENCHES, A BIKE RACK AND A KIOSK.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $34,602.

WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

BAKER ROAD HAS INCREASED VEHICULAR AND FOOT TRAFFIC.

THE APPLICANT PLANS TO RELAY RELAY THE EXISTING PAVERS THAT ARE IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THEIR COMPLEX FROM BAKER ROAD.

CURRENTLY, THE PAVERS ARE UNEVEN, CAUSING POTENTIAL TRIPPING HAZARDS.

THE COMPLEX IS MINIMAL GREEN SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUSINESS CORRIDOR.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD ADDITIONAL POTTED PLANTS THROUGHOUT THE WALKWAY.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING FUNDING TO CHEMICALLY TREAT AND PRESSURE CLEAN THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL SIX OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE COMPLEX.

THE EXISTING AWNINGS THAT COVER THE BUSINESS.

STOREFRONTS ARE WORN AND FADED.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REPLACE THE FABRIC ON 30 AWNINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONE BUILDING WITH BURGUNDY AWNINGS AND ANOTHER WITH GREEN.

THE NEW AWNINGS WILL BE A MIXTURE OF BOTH THE GREEN AND BURGUNDY STRIPES.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING FUNDING TO INSTALL THREE STOREFRONT BENCHES, A BIKE RACK THAT WILL HOLD 3 TO 4 BIKES AND A TWO SIDED KIOSK.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS QUALIFY FOR FUNDING UNDER THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

RESETTING THE ENTRYWAY PAVERS.

STOREFRONT BENCHES AND BIKE RACKS.

IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A VISUAL URBAN STREET AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING TWO APPLICATIONS DID NOT HAVE ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THEIR APPLICATION.

ONE OF THEM IS NANCY ALBERT, DESIGN AND CONSULTING GROUP, LOCATED ON 435 NORTHEAST BAKER ROAD UNIT 503.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO IMPROVE THE BUILDING'S STOREFRONT TO HURRICANE GRADE AND ENHANCED CURB APPEAL BY INSTALLING AWNINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE COMPLEX.

THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $18,205.

THE APPLICANT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AWNINGS ON THEIR BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES ATTACHED TO HER COMPLEX.

THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD TWO AWNINGS TO THE UPSTAIRS BALCONY WITH GREEN AND BURGUNDY STRIPED FABRIC PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN THE COMMERCE CENTER APPLICATION.

THE EXISTING STOREFRONT IS NOT HURRICANE GRADE GLASS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL HURRICANE RATED GLASS ON ALL HER DOORS AND WINDOWS.

STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT PART OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

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TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $2,111.

THE EXISTING SIGN IS FADED AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED TO ENHANCE CURB APPEAL.

STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS THE IMPROVEMENT IS NOT A PERMANENT FIXTURE, THEREFORE NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOTAL GRANT MATCH AMOUNT THAT QUALIFIES FUNDING IS $29,831. THAT IS CURRENTLY OVER THE REMAINING FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS $20,000.

IF THE FULL MATCH OF EACH APPLICATION IS RECOMMENDED, STAFF CAN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE $9,831.

BUT IF THE BOARD DECIDES THEY DO NOT WANT TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE CRA FUND BALANCE, THEN AN OPTION COULD BE TO REDUCE THE ELIGIBLE MATCH BY 33% FOR EACH APPLICATION, MAKING THE TOTAL FUNDING NEEDED ONLY $19,987.

SO STAFF IS SEEKING BOARD RECOMMENDATION AND A MOTION TO BE MADE FOR THE SUGGESTED FUNDING AMOUNT AND CONDITIONS FOR EACH APPLICATION.

OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NICK? YEAH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO I NOTICED AMERICAN SPRINKLER AND PUMP HAS THE CONDITION THAT.

IRRIGATION BE INSTALLED.

AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE LANDSCAPE RELATED WITHOUT THAT REQUIREMENT, I UNDERSTAND. DROUGHT TOLERANT HELPS, BUT I DO STILL THINK THAT WITHOUT IRRIGATION, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING CAN.

YOU KNOW, TEND TO LOOK THE TEMPERATURE, IF YOU WILL.

SO IS THERE A I DON'T KNOW.

IS THERE A REASON THERE? IS THERE SOME THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THE APPLICANT IS HERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS ITSELF BEING A SPRINKLER BUSINESS, THEY HAD MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE ALREADY.

WELL, AND I'M MORE LIKE, I THINK WE GOT IT RIGHT ON AMERICAN SPRINKLER AND PUMP.

I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT EDWARD JONES OXY AND OXY PROS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP ALSO HAD LANDSCAPING WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING IRRIGATION AND.

YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME SITE CONSTRAINT CHALLENGES ON THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY'RE ON COLORADO AND IT GETS A LITTLE TIGHT, BUT.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF IRRIGATION ON THOSE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.

ONE MINUTE. NICK, YOU ARE THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP, CORRECT? YOU ARE 1:00 TO THE MIC, PLEASE.

DO YOU? DON'T YOU HAVE IRRIGATION? THERE IS IRRIGATION IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT WOULD BE FOR ANYTHING RIGHT ON COLORADO WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS.

AND REGARDING THE 102 FOOT STRIP WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE FOXTAIL PALMS AND SOME OF THE OTHER LANDSCAPE THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HOSE BACK THERE THAT WILL COME OUT AND WE'LL WATER IT UNTIL THE LANDSCAPER SAID WHEN WE APPROACHED THE LANDSCAPER, THEY SAID THAT IT HAS TO BE WATERED IN THE BEGINNING FOR CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

AND THEN UNDER THE DROUGHT, DROUGHT RESISTANT, IT SHOULD BE FINE.

OKAY. AND YOU? DO WE ACTUALLY POSE? YEAH. YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM? COME ON UP THEN. YES.

JUST CURIOUS, YOUR TAKE ON THE IRRIGATION IN THE FRONT OF OURS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OUR TWO PALMS THAT WERE REQUESTING TO TO HAVE THE DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS.

WE DO NOT HAVE IRRIGATION UP THERE.

SAME THING, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR REQUESTING THAT IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE AREA WHERE WE ARE, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE AN IRRIGATION, BUT WE WOULD BE WATERING THOSE OURSELVES.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE? YEAH, A COUPLE ON AVONLEIGH.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING I'M INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE.

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THIS GETS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL BECAUSE IT IS PART OF A POD OR THERE WAS A IT'S A CONDO ASSOCIATION.

THERE'S, I BELIEVE SOME.

GENERAL MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS OF OF THAT APPROVAL.

AND THE COMMERCE CENTER WAS APPROVED WAY BACK WHEN, PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO OR SO.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HERE, LIKE WHAT WHAT ARE OBLIGATIONS OF THAT APPROVAL OR OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT LIKE HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THAT AND ARE WE SUBSIDIZING ANYTHING HERE THAT IS KIND OF REQUIRED BY THAT DEVELOPMENT ORDER REQUIRED BY THAT PROJECT? AND WHAT KIND OF JUMPS OUT AT ME IS LIKE BIKE BIKES AND BENT BENCHES AND BIKE RACKS, YOU KNOW, ARE TYPICALLY SOMETHING REQUIRED OF, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT.

LIKE WHEN WE DEVELOP THE TOWNHOME SITES, YOU KNOW, BIKE RACKS WERE A REQUIREMENT.

WE INSTALLED THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEY JUST GONE MISSING OVER TIME, THE AWNINGS NOT BEING ON THAT PARTICULAR UNIT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GOT TAKEN DOWN OVER TIME? LIKE I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL AND WE LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, WHAT WAS WHAT WERE THE MAINTENANCE CONDITIONS APPROVED OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE PART OF THAT APPROVAL? AND WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW IN LIKE, HOW DOES THIS INTERACT WITH THE POTENTIAL PROJECT? YEAH, COME ON UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

SURE. AND I DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME.

JUST SAY YOUR NAME. NANCY ALBERT.

I HAVE THE ONE THAT WAS DENIED AND I AM ALSO A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE AVONLEIGH ONE.

SO AWNINGS ARE A HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBLE, A UNIT OWNER RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE ASSOCIATION.

WHEN I WAS NOT HERE, WHEN THE UNIT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WAS NO BIKE RACKS OR PUBLIC SEATING, SO THAT IS NOWHERE IN THE EXISTING DOCUMENTS.

SO IN ORDER TO ADD ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULD FALL ON THE UNIT OWNERS TO PAY FOR.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN UNDER THE ASSOCIATION.

THE ASSOCIATION WOULD TAKE THE LEAD IN PROCURING EVERYTHING AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE ACCORDING TO THE CONDITIONS AND ACCORDING TO OUR APPLICATION.

AND BUT IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK THAT'S.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. FRANK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YES. FOR STAFF.

THERE'S TWO THINGS AT THE OXY PROS.

THE OXY PROS, THE ENTRY ENTRYWAY REPAVING FOR 10,000.

AND THEN AVON LEE ALSO HAS RESETTING ENTRYWAY PAVERS.

SO HOW DOES THIS ENTRYWAY IMPROVEMENTS FIT THE WHOLE GRAND SCHEME OF THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AS FAR AS THE GUIDELINES? I MEAN, IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM WHEN I DRIVE BY FROM THE STREET.

I DON'T IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SHADE OR LANDSCAPING.

HOW DOES IT FIT INTO THE GUIDELINES FOR THE PROGRAM? THE ENTRYWAYS IMPROVEMENTS? SURE. SOMETHING LIKE REPAVING.

IT WOULD BE MORE MORE PART OF LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT JUST THE REPAVING, IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE QUALIFICATIONS.

AND AS FAR AS OXY PROS, THEY HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY ARE.

IT'S KIND OF CAUSING HARDSHIP WITH IT'S KIND OF CAUSING A HARDSHIP WITH THEIR ADA COMPLIANCE AND AND AND THE WHEELCHAIRS THAT THEY HAVE TO USE TO GET IN AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USE FOR THEIR BUILDING.

THEY ALSO HAVE SOME FLOODING ISSUES AS FAR AS THE AVONLEIGH.

IT IS VISIBLE FROM BAKER.

SO, OKAY, SO I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.

SO IT REALLY DOESN'T IN THE GRAND SCHEME.

IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT IN MY MIND, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING AND AND IRRIGATION.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE LANDSCAPING BUSINESS WORKS.

NURSERIES GROW PLANTS AND THEY AND THEY FIND PLANTS AND IT'S KIND OF TRENDY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FURNACES, THE FOXTAIL PALMS. THEY'RE NOT REALLY DROUGHT TOLERANT.

THEY REQUIRE A LOT OF FOOD, BUT APPARENTLY THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

SO AND YOUR AND YOUR LANDSCAPING EXPERTS THAT WILL APPROACH THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS WHAT SHOULD WE DO HERE? THEY HAVE THAT IN MIND.

WHAT WHAT CAN I PUT IN THAT MAKES ME THE MOST MONEY AND WE'LL GET THE JOB DONE.

AND LONG TERM, THE CITIES LEFT WITH HIGH MAINTENANCE, LESS THAN HEALTHY LOOKING TREES.

SO THE IS IT THE IS IT THE OXYPORUS? OR TO HAVE TWO PALMS EXISTING? I MEAN, YOUR MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT TAKING OUT THOSE WHATEVER THEY ARE THAT AREN'T DOING WELL AND JUST PUT IN A COUPLE OF SABLES RIGHT THERE.

BECAUSE SABLES, ONCE THEY'RE.

ONCE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED.

AND THE PROBLEM WITH SABLES IS EVERYONE HAS THIS EVIL IDEA ABOUT THE SABLE AND YOU END UP PEOPLE END UP BUZZING THEM AND MAKING THEM LOOK REALLY STUPID AND

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AND SO THAT'S JUST A BIG GAME THEY PLAY THERE.

WHEREAS AND THAT'S WHY THE SABLE IS THE FLORIDA STATE TREE IS KIND OF LOSING ITS LUSTER BECAUSE WE BUTCHER THEM, MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE SOMETHING REALLY STUPID.

BUT YOU'LL FIND IF YOU LOOK AROUND AND YOU JUST LET THE SABLE LEAVE THE SABLES ALONE.

YEAH. THE BROWN ONES IN THE BOTTOM ARE GOING TO DROP ONCE A WHILE IN A WINDSTORM.

ANOTHER REASON THEY DON'T LIKE THEM.

THE LANDSCAPERS MIGHT HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND GET OFF THEIR MOWER AND TAKE 35 SECONDS.

SO ANYWAYS, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU'VE GOT NO IRRIGATION.

THINK ABOUT THE PLANTS THAT GROW WITHOUT IRRIGATION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

YES, SIR. NO, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF REDUCING THE ELIGIBLE MATCH BY 33%.

WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS HERE FIRST, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE MATH.

NO, NONE. DOES ANY OF THE APPLICANTS WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION OR THE BOARD? SEEING NONE. I JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHICH OF THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.

SO WE DO HAVE OK PRO YOUR YOURS DIDN'T MAKE IT AND EVAN LAMBERT PRESCRIPTION.

DAVID JONES. EDWARD JONES AMERICAN SPRINKLER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL THROW IT OPEN TO HOW DO WE WANT TO DIVIDE THE MONEY? DO WE WANT TO USE STAFF? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SET A BUDGET.

THE PROGRAM IS INEVITABLY GOING TO RUN OVER IF IF WE JUST CONTINUE TO FUND OVERAGES.

IT'S NOT A NOT A GOOD SIGNAL, IF YOU WILL.

I'D VOTE TO REDUCE BY 33%.

BUT AS WE GET INTO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, IF SOMETHING FALLS OUT OR DOESN'T PERFORM, OR MAYBE WE PUT A TIMELINE ON PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, TIMETABLE TO COMPLETE THESE ITEMS. AND IF.

IF THE IF THE PROJECT.

SO LET'S SAY TONIGHT WE REDUCE EVERYTHING BY 33% BUT ONE PROJECT DROPS OUT AND DOESN'T GET COMPLETED WITHIN THREE MONTHS, THEN THAT MONEY WOULD GET REDISTRIBUTED AMONGST THE PROJECTS THAT DID GET COMPLETED UP TO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IN.

DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE? DO WE HAVE A DROP DEAD DATE WITH ANY OF THESE? IT'S A YEAR.

IT'S A YEAR. BUT SOME APPLICANTS DO REQUEST EXTENSIONS.

THEY'RE NOT CRAZY EXTENSIONS, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH HOW TO ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS? I'M FOR REDUCING EACH MATCH BY 33%.

SO I LIKE THE 33%.

JUST THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF SOMEBODY DROPS OUT AND WE CAN REDISTRIBUTE OR REIMBURSE, I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION.

I LIKE THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO RE DISPERSE BECAUSE THE YEAR IS OVER.

RIGHT. BUT OKAY.

I MEAN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT CONFUSED HERE, LIKE, WOULD THAT STAFF WOULD THAT BE, YOU KNOW, JORDAN, WOULD THAT BE VIABLE? LIKE IF WE APPROVE THIS WITH A 33% REDUCTION AND A YEAR GOES BY AND X, Y, Z DOESN'T SORRY, DOESN'T, DOESN'T GET COMPLETED, THAT WOULD LEAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN THE KITTY.

WOULD WOULD IT NOT BE A VIABLE APPROACH TO JUST SAY THAT WOULD GET DISTRIBUTED LIKE PAID OUT TO THE PROJECTS THAT DID GET COMPLETED AND DID QUALIFY OR WE CAN'T GOES BACK TO THE CRB, CORRECT. THE CRA FUNDS EITHER DO IT ADMINISTRATIVELY BECAUSE WE DO ASK FOR QUOTES.

EACH ITEM THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE TWO QUOTES AND WE GO WITH THE LOWEST QUOTE.

SO WE, WE DO SOME, YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE WE ALLOCATE FUNDS OR REIMBURSEMENT.

SO WE COULD DO IT ADMINISTRATIVELY AND OR BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

I JUST THINK IT'S BETTER THAT WE ALLOCATE THE MONEY AND THEN ALLOW STAFF TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO BEHIND THE SCENES.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SCENARIO WHERE LIKE THERE'S A THERE'S REMAINING FUNDS IN THIS KITTY AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK OUT THERE HAVING ALREADY SHORTED SOMEBODY'S DOLLARS. LIKE IF THESE PROJECTS QUALIFY AND WE'RE TAKING 33% OFF OF WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR, LIKE THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE AND A PROJECT DOESN'T GET DONE AND THAT LEAVES MONEY IN THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT OPEN PANDORA'S BOX TO THIS BEING MORE PROJECTS.

LET'S REWARD THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DONE WHAT THEY'VE STEPPED UP AND SAID, WOULD YOU DO THAT BECAUSE THE BECAUSE THE BUDGET YEAR WILL BE OVER? WELL, I KIND OF HAVE A SLIGHT CONCERN WITH THAT.

THE ONLY REASON WHY IS PEOPLE COME IN WITH COMPLETING THEIR PROJECTS AT DIFFERENT TIMELINES.

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AND THEN I CAN ONLY UNLESS I'M CUTTING LIKE A WHOLE SEPARATE CHECK AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT, BUT THEN IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY A REIMBURSEMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY THEY KNOW WHAT MONEY THEY'RE GETTING.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT OVER WHICH WILL BE MINUTE, I WOULD IMAGINE IT JUST GOES BACK INTO THE CRA AND WE CAN PLAY WITH IT NEXT YEAR.

IT'S JUST EASIER FOR STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE.

OKAY. AND IF IT GETS COMPLICATED, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE, AND STATE YOUR NAME.

JIM FROM AMERICA. NO, NO, NO.

COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND SAY JIM SMITH OR WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS.

JIM JOHNSTON. AMERICAN SPRINKLER AND PUMP.

I JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.

IF IF BY THE TIME I THROW THE IRRIGATION INTO MY PROJECT, I'M UP TO 20 GRAND, BUT WE'RE REDUCING THE MATCH DOWN TO FIVE GRAND.

SO DO I STILL HAVE TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE PROJECT AT THE 20,000 NOW? BECAUSE YOU'VE PUT THE STIPULATION THAT I THAT I HAVE TO DO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? ON TOP OF THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO IF IF THE PROJECT GOT SMALLER.

OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THAT MOTION HAS YET TO BE MADE.

IF IF YOU IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION ON APPROVAL AS FAR AS THE SPRINKLERS GO.

SO THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN VOTED ON YET.

WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE USUAL WHEN THEY DON'T GET ALL THE MONEY THEY REQUESTED, DOES THE WHOLE PROJECT USUALLY HAVE TO BE COMPLETED IN ORDER TO GET ANY OF THE MONEY? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

CAN THE PROJECT GET SMALLER OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE AS PROPOSED? YES, IT WOULD BE AS PROPOSED.

AS PROPOSED. OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY MOTION, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, COME ON UP.

YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO GET.

WANT US TO GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FIRST.

MY QUESTION IS.

THERE WILL PROBABLY BE THIS PROGRAM AGAIN NEXT YEAR IF I CAN HELP IT.

WELL, ANYWAY, MY QUESTION IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING THIS YEAR.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY APPLY NEXT YEAR FOR SOMETHING THAT SUPPOSE THEY DROP OUT HERE OR THEY DON'T GET EVERYTHING COMPLETED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING.

YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO REAPPLY.

AND YEAH, AS LONG AS THE FUNDING IS ALLOCATED AND APPROVED FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

YES. AS LONG AS IT'S STILL A PROGRAM.

AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS LET'S JUST TAKE IT THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP, THE MURAL THAT'S THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE COLOR CODED IN ORDER TO PRESERVE IT OR ELSE IT'S JUST GOING TO IT'S STARTING TO GET CHALKY.

SO IF THE FUNDING IS CUT AND THEY DECIDE TO JUST BE SATISFIED WITH THE CLEAR COAT ON THAT AND SOME LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THEY WILL NOT GET ANY MONEY IF THEY DON'T DO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY SAID THEY HAD APPLIED FOR. IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

CAN WE GET A MOTION TO JUST HAVE A COMMENT? THIS IS GETTING COMPLICATED.

MY MY ORIGINAL THOUGHTS ON THE 33% ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT WAS JUST ABOUT ME NOT WANTING TO PICK WINNERS AND LOSERS HERE.

THAT'S ALL THAT WAS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. STILL, AND AND JUST SO THAT FRANK'S CLEAR, WE'RE STILL PICKING LIKE THE PROJECTS THAT DON'T QUALIFY HAVEN'T BEEN FACTORED INTO THAT. SO IF WE SAY THAT THESE PROJECTS THAT IF THE 33% REDUCTION WAS BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT QUALIFIES AND WHAT DOESN'T QUALIFY.

SO LIKE IF WE APPROVE STUFF THAT STAFF SAYING DOESN'T QUALIFY, IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT BY PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS? I MEANT. TAKING 33% AWAY FROM EVERYBODY WAS SEEMED EQUITABLE.

YEAH. NO, I WOULD AGREE. I THINK WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE.

I MEAN, I JUST HAVE.

I JUST HAVE A GENERAL PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR LANDSCAPING THAT DOESN'T HAVE IRRIGATION, AND WE CAN ALL SAY THAT OUR LANDSCAPERS ARE GOING TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, WATER THE PLANTS.

BUT LIKE THERE'S A THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT MY HOUSE THAT NEVER HAPPEN.

AND I HAVE TO CALL. AND LIKE, IT'S NOT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, VINES ARE GROWING THROUGH MY SOFFITS AND, YOU KNOW, HALF THE PLANTS HAVEN'T BEEN FERTILIZED AND HALF THE PLANTS HAVE.

SO I'VE GOT ELEPHANT EARS THAT ARE THREE FEET TALL.

I'VE GOT ELEPHANT EARS THAT ARE SIX INCHES TALL.

LIKE IT'S I'M ONLY LAUGHING BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE WE ALL SUFFER THIS.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WITHOUT IRRIGATION LIKE THROWING MONEY AT LANDSCAPING IS, IS NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FRUGAL.

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BUT THE REALITY IS LIKE, LIKE NOT TO PICK ON OXYPORUS BUT LIKE YOUR HARD CORNER THAT'S PAVED ON BOTH SIDES.

I MEAN, THAT ASPHALT GETS TO BE, WHAT, 120 DEGREES DURING THE DAY THIS TIME OF YEAR.

AND IF YOU PUT A PLANT WITHIN TEN FEET OF IT, IT'S GOING TO FEEL THAT.

AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONDITION ADDED TO EVERYTHING THAT INVOLVES LANDSCAPING.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT THIS BOARD LEVEL BACK WITH FRANK WALKER WAS HERE AND PETE WAS HERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC OUTCOME OF THAT, BUT.

WELL, IT ISN'T ONE NOW.

AND SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED UNDER THE PROGRAM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT POSITION HERE WHERE WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S MAXING OUT ON DOLLARS AND WE HAVE ONE APPLICANT THAT'S OFFERING TO PUT OR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRAPPING WITH THE CONDITION OF IRRIGATION AND THEN THREE OTHERS THAT WERE NOT.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE THE MONEY TO THE OTHER THREE? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE PUT THE CONDITION ACROSS ALL APPLICATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE IRRIGATION AND THEN THE 33% REDUCTION COMES IN.

BUT THE 33% REDUCTION GETS TREATED AS IF THERE'S A REIMBURSEMENT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

IF THERE ISN'T A IF IF, YOU KNOW, TO PUT SOME DETAIL TO IT.

SO, YOU KNOW.

AVONLEIGH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REIMBURSEMENT OF 31 60 IF THAT DOESN'T GET DONE, THEN THAT GOES BACK INTO THE KITTY AND GETS SPREAD ACROSS THE FOUR OTHER PROJECTS THAT DID GET DONE. OR IF EDWARD JONES DOESN'T DO THEIR PROJECT, YOU KNOW, OR IF OXYPORUS DOESN'T DO THEIR PROJECT, THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM WOULD GET DISPERSED TO THE OTHER PROJECTS.

WHO DID ACCEPT THE CONDITION OF THAT? THAT'S PART OF YOUR IS THAT PART OF YOUR WOULD BE PART OF YOUR MOTION? IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE, MR. CHAIR, I CAN DO THAT.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING WITH SOME MEAT TO DISCUSS.

SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDING THESE WITH THE OPTION OF REDUCING EACH ELIGIBLE MATCH BY 33% AND ADDING THE CONDITIONS TO THE EDWARD JONES OFFICE, THE OXY PRO INC AND THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP.

ADDING TO THOSE THREE APPLICATIONS, THE SAME CONDITION THAT IS A PART OF THE AMERICAN SPRINKLER AND PUMP APPLICATION AND ADDING A CONDITION THAT IF AT THE EXPIRATION OF THIS ROUND, THERE ARE FUNDS, THERE ARE UNUSED FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THIS ROUND.

THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE PERFORMED.

UNDER THIS ROUND. BEFORE WE GET A SECOND, I'D JUST LIKE TO GET A LEGAL OPINION.

CAN CAN THAT BE A CONDITION FOR TAKING THE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

TURKEY. JUST NO, BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE KNOW IT'LL BE NEXT YEAR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

PAUL NICOLETTI, INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY.

I THINK IT CAN BE A CONDITION BECAUSE, I MEAN, AFTER ALL, IT'S THE PUBLIC TRUST MONEY THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO THE PUBLIC UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

IF IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT IS REASONABLE TO HAVE LANDSCAPE NOT IRRIGATED.

BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FAILURE OF THAT LANDSCAPE.

THEN I THINK IT'S REASONABLE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO MAKE THAT AS A REQUIREMENT, I THINK.

MY QUESTION, TOM'S QUESTION IS MORE RELATED TO THE TO THE CONDITION RELATED TO FUNDING.

LIKE REIMBURSING AFTER THE FACT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE REIMBURSED, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN IN 24.

SO IT WOULD BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND YOU CAN ONLY EXPEND UP TO THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN.

IT CAN BE SPENT NEXT YEAR.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OH, SURE.

OKAY. YEAH. NO, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THE THE ANY MONIES THAT WILL CARRY OVER AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS PARTICULAR FUND, THE CRA FUND DOES CARRY IT.

NO PROBLEM. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION IF ANYONE'S BEEN SECONDED? NO, NOT YET.

BUT YOU WILL IN A MINUTE. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY. FOR DISCUSSION.

CORRECT. SECONDED.

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CORRECT. OKAY. NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOW YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT ON THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. MY COMMENT IS I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU WANT TO STICK TO THE BUDGET.

AND I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GO OVER THAT.

THAT'S A BUDGET.

THAT'S HOW YOU WORK IT.

YOU STAY WITHIN YOUR BUDGET.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS IT FAIR TO THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE ALREADY APPLIED AND LANDSCAPING WAS PART OF THEIR BUDGET? THAT THEY BE PENALIZED OR SOME WAY THAT THEY THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT OUT AND STILL GO ON WITH THEIR PROJECT AND STILL HAVE TO PAY THAT HAVE TO PUT IN THE FULL AMOUNT.

THE LANDSCAPING, I WOULD THINK, SHOULD BE REDUCED FROM THEIR APPLICATION SO THAT IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP, IF THEY'RE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IF IT'S $26,000 OR WHATEVER, AND LANDSCAPING WAS 5000, WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT THAT LANDSCAPING BECAUSE THAT 5000 PIECE OF LANDSCAPING NEEDED IRRIGATION, IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE PART OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO IT WASN'T IN THEIR PLAN TO PAY FOR IRRIGATION.

SO SINCE THAT ISN'T PART OF IT YET, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO KIND OF PENALIZE THEM.

SO THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THEIR APPLICATION AND TAKE THE LANDSCAPING OUT SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROGRAM AND NOT HAVE TO PAY $25,000.

AND IF LANDSCAPING WAS 5000 SO THERE WOULD THEIR BUDGET WOULD THEN GO DOWN TO 20,000, THAT'S ALL.

LET'S TAKE A LITTLE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT SHE THINKS.

FAIR ENOUGH. CHIEF, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? AND ARE WE FILLING OUR CARDS TODAY? I DO NEED THE BLUE COMMENT CARD FOR MISS GAIL GOLDIE.

OKAY. ANYONE WHO SPOKE TODAY, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CARD FILLED OUT.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALL MY FAULT.

I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT.

YES. COME ON UP AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD.

YOU CAN ONLY DO IT ONCE.

FILL OUT A CARD AFTER.

MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, NO QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE MAKING A STATEMENT NOW.

OH, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO PIGGYBACK WHAT SHE SAID.

I AGREE THAT IF IF WE'RE ONLY APPROVING A PORTION OF WHAT WAS REQUESTED, THAT ALL THE WORK SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO BE DONE TO GET THAT PORTION, IT SHOULD ONLY BE WHATEVER THE GROUPING OF THAT ALLOTTED WORK WAS, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT TO RECEIVE THE SMALLER AMOUNT THAN IT WOULD BE TO RECEIVE THE ENTIRE MATCH. SO KIND OF PIGGYBACKS WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.

PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. SEEING NONE.

BACK TO THE BOARD NEXT.

SO. WE'RE IN KIND OF A UNIQUE SPOT FOR THIS PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE WE'RE OVER BUDGET, RIGHT? WITH ALL THE APPLICATIONS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING TO THE ROOM IS THOSE WHO WILL STEP UP AND PUT IN IRRIGATION WILL GET DOLLARS.

AND THIS IS THIS IS FREE MONEY, FOLKS.

SO I THINK IN MAKING THE MOTION, I'M SIMPLY LOOKING OUT FOR THE PUBLIC DOLLAR AND ITS EXPENDITURE.

AND TO ME, IN MY EXPERIENCE, LANDSCAPE WITHOUT IRRIGATION IS NOT MONEY WELL SPENT.

AND SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE TAXPAYERS MONEY SPENT, IT SHOULD GO TO THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO STEP UP.

AND THAT'S MISS MISS.

BUT IT'S NOT I'M MAKING IT A CONDITION HERE THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU.

SETH, YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? WELL, I CAN. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE'S COMING FROM, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT HER, HER OVERALL, THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP THEY WERE QUALIFYING, IT WAS $26,600, 12,000 FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THEN 1000 FOR THE MURAL.

AND WE CAME IN AFTER THEY PUT IN THEIR THEIR OFFER, WE CAME IN AND TOLD THEM, WELL, IF YOU DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO SPEND X AMOUNT MORE DOLLARS ON YOUR ON YOUR LANDSCAPING AND I'M TOTALLY WITH YOU. BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU KIND OF GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO, ALL RIGHT, WELL, LANDSCAPING ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT TO US.

WE'LL JUST NIX THAT. SO THEN LET'S JUST SAY YOU TAKE $26,000 OUT OF IT AND THEN THEY'RE DOWN TO ONLY 13,000.

SO THEN WE COULD KNOCK DOWN THE POTENTIAL GRANT MATCH OF THAT.

SO WE'D BE SAVING SOME OF THE DOLLARS FOR THEM IF THEY WANT TO.

WELL, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE.

CORRECT. I'M JUST. AND AND THEY CAN AMEND THE GRANT WITHOUT IT COMING BACK TO US OR NO.

WELL, WHEN WE AMENDED THE PROGRAM, LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING BECAME A PRIORITY.

SO LANDSCAPING IS A PRIORITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY CAN APPLY FOR.

BUT WITHOUT LANDSCAPING, THEY WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

FRANK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING MORE? NO, SIR. I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH NICK.

THIS IS FREE MONEY TO THE THE APPLICANTS.

AND IF THIS BOARD AND THEN THE CRA DECIDE THAT IT IS PRUDENT TO SPEND MONEY ON IRRIGATION IN ORDER TO

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I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF THIS PROGRAM CONTINUES, WE SHOULD WE SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY HAVE IN THE POCKET IRRIGATION WHEN IT COMES TO BECAUSE THEY NEED IT.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY GET AROUND IRRIGATION.

NO, I AGREE. AND I THINK THAT THE PROGRAM IS IS GROWING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE KNOWN, IT'S MORE APPLIED FOR.

IN THE PAST, WE HAVEN'T BEEN I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE ENDED THE YEAR WITH MONEY GOING JUST BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IT'S BEEN UNUSED.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET TO BE MORE SELECTIVE ON PROJECTS BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS EXCEEDS THE BUDGET, THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO DO IS IS GOING TO PICK THE PROJECTS THAT ARE THE MOST BENEFICIAL AND OFFER THE MOST BENEFIT TO THE CRA.

AND SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT? DOES THE BOARD WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, JUST ONE MORE THING.

SO LIKE THAT UNIQUE.

IT'S NOT REALLY A UNIQUE SITUATION.

I REMEMBER HEARING ANOTHER ONE LIKE THIS THAT WE APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO WHERE TO GET IRRIGATION TO A LITTLE SPOT OUT BY THE STREET AND GET THROUGH ALL THE CONCRETE BETWEEN HERE AND THERE.

IT'S AN EXPENSIVE, EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION.

AND JUST WANT TO LET ME KNOW ONE MORE TIME.

THERE ARE TREES THAT WILL THRIVE, NOT JUST SURVIVE IN THOSE SCENARIOS.

AND THEY'RE CALLED SABLES.

THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE FOR THE MOTION.

BUT I THINK THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IS A BIG WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

ANYTIME WE'RE PAYING MONEY TO BUSINESSES SO THAT THEY CAN PUT A TREE IN OR PAVE THEIR PARKING LOT. I THINK IT'S CRAZY IF YOU SAID TO ME, LET'S HELP A PERSON STAY IN THEIR HOME.

I THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

I JUST THINK THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IS CRAZY AND I'VE NEVER BEEN FOR IT AND I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN FOR IT NOT TO SUCCEED, NOT TO BE THERE HERE NEXT YEAR. AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT A LATER MEETING.

BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON A PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE WHO OWN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REAL ESTATE.

SO, OKAY, SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

WE'LL TAKE THE ROLE.

YOU WANT TO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? BOARD MEMBER OWENS.

HERE. NO, NOT.

OH, YOU SAID ROLL CALL.

WELL, IT'S MONEY. WE GOT TO TAKE A ROLL.

YES. VICE.

VICE CHAIR SCHROTH. YES.

CHAIR CAMPINI. YES.

AND BOARD MEMBER MCCHRYSTAL.

I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THE MOTION AGAIN? I'M VOTING ON. DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT IT, PLEASE? THANK YOU. SO IT WAS TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE OPTION OF REDUCING EACH ELIGIBLE APPLICATION MATCH BY 33%, ADDING THE CONDITION FOR EDWARDS JONES PRESCRIPTION AND OXYPORUS THE IRRIGATION.

AND IF THERE'S EXTRA FUNDS AFTER IT EXPIRES TO BE SPREAD AMONGST THOSE WHO HAVE FINISHED THE APPLICATION OR THEIR PROJECT.

SORRY, I DON'T.

I THINK IT WAS EDWARD JONES OXY PROCESS AND THE PRESCRIPTION SHOP.

YES. OKAY.

OKAY. FRANK.

HOW DO YOU VOTE? NO.

THREE ONE FRANK MCCHRYSTAL.

VOTING NO. THANK YOU.

WHAT I DIDN'T DO, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NOW.

WHAT I DIDN'T DO, I SKIPPED OVER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO COME BACK UP FOR THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU WANT TO BERATE US OR BERATE ME OR BERATE ANYONE HERE.

NO, NO. I THINK I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU ABOUT THIS.

HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THIS.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A GRANT ONE MORE TIME.

GOLDIE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU APPLY FOR GRANTS.

IT'S A GRANT PROGRAM, AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT I DON'T THINK THAT BUSINESS IS NECESSARILY SHOULD GET THIS THIS PROGRAM, HAVE THIS PROGRAM. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS FAR AS THE APPLICATION GOES AND FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION, IT REALLY WAS NOT CLEAR TO THE APPLICANT WHEN FILLING THIS OUT THAT AT LEAST I DON'T FEEL THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T COMPLETE THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY ANYTHING.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET WHAT WAS WHAT WAS FIGURED OUT FOR YOU.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, I WANT TO KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS

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WHY WASN'T IT DONE IN THE PAST THAT THE CHANGES BE MADE TO THIS SO THAT APPLICANTS WOULD KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IRRIGATION.

YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T DO IRRIGATION? YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPER WE WENT TO A LANDSCAPER A LANDSCAPER SAID THIS, THIS, THIS AND FRANK, THAT'S TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LISTENING TO A LANDSCAPER.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE PILLS.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW ABOUT TREES? SO I JUST THINK THAT IT'S IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE WAY THAT IT'S IT'S LAID OUT AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO GET DIRECTION TELLING US WHAT WE CAN DO THAT WE CAN COME BACK WE HAVE CAN WE AMEND WHAT WE PUT IN? IF WE AMEND IT, WHAT WILL THE AMOUNT BE THAT WE WILL GET? OR IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER GET THE IRRIGATION IN OR YOU GET YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AS REQUESTED.

THAT'S ALL. IS THERE ANY ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE.

WE'LL BACK TO THE BOARD BECAUSE BOARD MEMBERS CAN ALSO MAKE COMMENTS.

NICK, I THINK YOU HAVE A COMMENT.

NO, IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE BOARD LEVEL AS FAR AS IRRIGATION AND THIS GRANT PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I DO SHARE TOM AND FRANK'S FEELING A LITTLE BIT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I START A BUSINESS, I DON'T COME TO CITY HALL AND ASK FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD A BUILDING OR DO WHATEVER.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AT AVONLEIGH AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN A PART OF.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

SO TO COME IN AND ASK FOR A SUBSIDY TO DO THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

I UNDERSTAND ENTIRELY WHERE TOM AND FRANK ARE COMING FROM.

I DON'T THINK IT'S BEYOND THE ROLE OF THE CRA TO PARTICIPATE AND INCENTIVIZE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

AND WHEN WE'RE SITTING IN A SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DING PEOPLE 33% BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE HERE DON'T FIT INTO THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO STEP UP AND DO THE BEST JOB ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE AWARDED.

AND TO THE POINT ABOUT TAKING THINGS OUT AND MIXING AND MATCHING AND APPROVING CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF CERTAIN ITEMS, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VIABLE I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VIABLE APPROACH TO THIS, JUST IN THE MECHANISMS OF HOW THIS BOARD OPERATES OR HOW THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPERATES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO SIT HERE AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, EIGHT APPLICATIONS AND THEN AND THEN TAKE OF THOSE EIGHT APPLICATIONS, THERE'S FOUR ITEMS APIECE.

AND THEN THAT TURNS INTO 32 TOTAL ITEMS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PROCESS ALLOWS FOR THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, INTERACTION OR THAT KIND OF APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU FEEL SLIGHTED BY THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU BRING THE ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD, IT'S THE ITEM AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE TODAY.

SO. THERE YOU GO.

ANYONE? ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.

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AND I HOPE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO APPEASE MR. MCCHRYSTAL. I HOPE SO.

THAT'S. THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

TIRES AND I GOT OUT THERE.

SORRY. LET ME JUST.

THANK YOU, PANEL.

GHANIZADA, CIA DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.

THE CRA INITIATED THIS PROJECT ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO DO THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY TREE PLANTING PROGRAM AND MASTER PLAN TO IMPROVE AND BEAUTIFY THE CORRIDOR.

THIS THE CORRIDOR SECTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS BETWEEN JOHN JEFFERSON WAY AND KANTER HIGHWAY OR COLORADO AVENUE.

THE CRA IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THIS ROADWAY SEGMENT BECAUSE IT'S A GATEWAY TO OUR DOWNTOWN TRIANGLE DISTRICT AND THE CREEK DISTRICT.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, CURRENT CONDITION.

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THERE'S A DEFICIENCIES IN THE SIDEWALK AND BICYCLE NETWORK ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

WE HAVE POLES ON THE SIDEWALK.

THAT LEAVES VERY LITTLE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND ADA COMPLIANCE.

THERE IS ALSO VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE VERY LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY FOR RIGHT OF WAY.

THE TRAVEL LANES ARE AT CAPACITY, SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO FDOT FOR REPURPOSING OR A ROAD DIET, BUT THOSE OPTIONS ARE NOT VIABLE.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO START LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO IMPROVE THE SIDEWALK CONDITIONS, PROVIDE SHARED USE PATH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR WITH WITH THE SHADE TREES FOR OUR PEDESTRIANS.

THIS SEGMENT IS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS NUMBER TWO SITE FOR SERIOUS AND FATAL CRASHES IN THE MPO VISION ZERO PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2022. IT WAS ALSO ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.

STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT WHEN YOU HAVE WELL PLANTED PLANTS AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THE CORRIDOR, IT DOES HELP WITH REDUCING THE SPEEDING.

WE WE DID THE MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS SOUTH OR ACTUALLY NORTH OF US ONE HIGHWAY.

AND IT HELPS WITH, YOU KNOW, DISTRESSING THE DRIVERS AND JUST HELPING WITH ROADWAY SAFETY.

LAST YEAR THE BOARD APPROVED FOR THE CRA TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL TO DEVELOP THIS MASTER PLAN FROM JOHN JEFFERSON HIGHWAY TO KENNER HIGHWAY TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

JESSICA SEYMOUR IS GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION.

SHE'S GOING TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AND PROGRAM, ALL THE OUTREACH EFFORTS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS.

THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AND THE NEXT STEPS OF COORDINATING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.

TODAY. WE'LL BE LOOKING AS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HAD TO DO SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO WE'LL SHARE SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.

SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 DASH 2023, APPROVING THE MASTER PLAN AND THE PROGRAM, AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW.

AND JESSE'S GOING TO DO THE THOROUGH PRESENTATION, AS SHE ALWAYS DOES.

THANK YOU, MISS CHAVEZ, FOR THE EXCELLENT INTRODUCTION.

JESSICA SEYMOUR FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AGAIN.

I'M GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. AS ADAM ALREADY MENTIONED, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FEDERAL MASTER BY FEDERAL HIGHWAY MASTER PLAN AND THE TRIANGLE DISTRICT MASTER PLAN TO ENGAGE ON INFILL PLANTING PROGRAMS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES TO THIS CORRIDOR IS A LOT OF THESE BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE CODE, LONG BEFORE A LOT OF THE EXISTING CODES THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY ARE WERE IMPLEMENTED.

SO THESE BUILT STRUCTURES HAVE STAYED IN THEIR PLACE.

THEY'VE HAD CHANGE OF USE OVER TIME, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A REALLY DRAMATIC CHANGE IN WHAT THIS CORRIDOR HAS LOOKED LIKE BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURES, WELL SUITED CAN GET REPURPOSED OVER TIME.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY INFLUX OF ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

OFTEN THE CITY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SUPPORTING TREE PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPING.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO PLANT TREES.

WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THREE OF THEM.

THAT IS PART OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION EFFORT THE VISUAL IMPACT OF TREES, IMPROVED SAFETY AND A MINIMIZING OF THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT A VISUAL IMPACT OF TREES.

AND I ALREADY MENTIONED SACHSE ALREADY MENTIONED THE THE VALUE THAT TREE BRINGS TO A SIDEWALK NETWORK, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT MORE BEAUTIFUL. AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT HAPPENS IN WEST PALM BEACH.

THESE TWO STREET SECTIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THERE ARE TWO TRAVEL LANES WITH ON STREET PARKING, SIDEWALKS AND UTILITY POLES.

YOU INSERT THE TREES AND IT'S ALREADY A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE PLACE TO BE.

AND THAT HAS AN EFFECT ON SHOPPERS.

IT HAS AN EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES.

AND THERE'S MANY NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SUPPORT THAT.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ROBUST TREE CANOPY WILL THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN A 9 TO 12% MORE SALE AND PROJECTS AND TRAVELING FURTHER AND SPENDING MORE TIME IN THOSE LOCATIONS.

WE ALREADY WENT OVER THE CONTEXT A LITTLE BIT.

NOT EXACTLY A PLACE WHERE YOU WANT TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.

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AND WHEN WE DID OUR US ONE FEDERAL HIGHWAY MASTER PLAN SURVEY, WE SENT OUT A HUGE SURVEY.

AS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN, WE ASKED WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WEAKNESSES AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRENGTHS OF THIS AREA? AND THE NUMBER ONE WEAKNESS WE HEARD WAS THE APPEARANCE.

SO THIS IS A PROGRAM GEARED TOWARDS IMPROVING THE APPEARANCE OF THE AREA.

SCOTTY SARVIS ALREADY MENTIONED THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHEN YOU HAVE TREES OUTSIDE OF THE CLEAR ZONE, VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR THERE.

IT CAN CALM DRIVERS.

THEY CAN BEHAVE BETTER.

WHEN WE'RE IN A NICE PLACE, WE WANT TO BEHAVE BETTER.

WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS TO THE MARTIN MPO, ONE OF THE DISTINCTIVE QUALITY, THE FEATURES OR HINDRANCES IN THIS AREA, I SHOULD SAY, IS THAT THERE IS NO BIKE LANE, SO THERE'S NO PLACE FOR CYCLISTS TO GO.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN FATALITIES ALONG THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S EVER BEEN IN A PARKING LOT IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

THAT'S HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

YOU GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND IT'S BLAZING HOT.

THAT IS MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN YOU'RE NEAR SHADE TREES AND YOU'RE NOT NEAR SHADE TREES.

AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE SURFACE TEMPERATURES THAT ARE TAKEN.

THESE ARE GRAPHICS FROM NOAA.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS IS AN INCREASED METRIC OF HOW THE HEAT IS POOLING OVER HERE.

OVER HERE, THE DARKER THE RED IS, THE BIGGER THE TREE GAP.

WELL, THIS WOULD BE THIS COLOR, EXCEPT FOR THEY INCLUDED A SLICE OF WATER INTO THIS THIS SHAPE FILE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW DARK RED THE COMMERCIAL AREA IS.

HERE'S AN AERIAL PICTURE OF SOME OF THE PARCELS ON THAT STRETCH OF US.

ONE, THERE'S HARDLY A TREE IN SIGHT.

ONLY THOSE REALLY RESILIENT SABAL PALMS ARE SURVIVING OUT THERE.

SO THERE YOU GO.

ONE SO AS YOU SO AS PART OF TO ADDRESS ALL THIS, WE DEVELOPED A MASTER PLAN.

WELL, WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE OUT THERE? LET'S LET'S CREATE THE ROADMAP OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

AND THEN IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A CRA PROGRAM TO HELP IMPLEMENT THAT WITH THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN A SET OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS. AND THIS WOULD WHAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OR INFILL.

AND THAT OCCURS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

THIS IS A SAMPLING OF WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE.

YOU'LL NOTICE THIS BIG RED LINE.

THIS IS OUR UTILITY LINE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICTS OUT ON THIS SECTION OF ROADWAY.

NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES TRYING TO GET THROUGH, YOU DO HAVE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLING TRAFFIC.

WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF UTILITIES BOTH UNDERGROUND AND ABOVE.

ABOVE GROUND UTILITIES FROM FPL ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE ON THIS CORRIDOR.

THAT BIG THREE FOOT POLE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO WE NEED TO PLAN AROUND IT.

SO WE MADE SURE THAT THAT WAS INDICATED REALLY LARGE IN IN OUR PLAN.

THE PINK INDICATES AREAS FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPANDING THE SIDEWALK.

AND THEN THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT GRAPHICS, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GRAPHICS TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT'S AN EXISTING TREE TO REMAIN ON THAT SEGMENT AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEW TREES RECOMMENDED. SO THIS PINK RIGHT HERE INDICATE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WIDENING THE SIDEWALK SO THAT IT'S AT LEAST TEN FEET WIDE, WHICH IS MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE FOR FOR USE.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO IMPEDE INTO ANY PLANTINGS OVER THERE.

THIS IS AN INDICATION OF WHAT A NEW TREE WOULD BE LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS WHAT AN EXISTING TREE THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE LANDSCAPE ALREADY TODAY.

WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT KEEPING ALL OF ALL OF THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE MEDIAN.

BUT HOW CAN WE COMPLEMENT THAT WITH SOME HEIGHT AND DEFINING THE ROADWAY WITH SOME MORE GATEWAYS FOR THE TREE SPECIES? AND THIS IS EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FAVORITE TREES.

THIS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF WHAT WE PUT INTO THE MASTER PLAN, I THINK.

SO IN ORDER TO GET AS WELL ROUNDED AND APPROACH TO THE TREE SPECIES SELECTION, WE MADE SURE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUP WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE TREE PLANTINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE CALLED ON THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.

WE CALLED ON IFAS OUR LOCAL IFAS EXTENSION.

THEY'VE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP IN THIS PROCESS.

WE ASKED FOR INPUT FROM THE MAIN STREET DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND THE GARDEN CLUB OF STUART.

ONE OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT THEY HELP TO EDUCATE US ON IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING LOCALLY AND THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA IS LETHAL BRONZING, WHICH IS REALLY AFFECTING A LOT OF OUR PALM SPECIES.

SO I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO IN ORDER TO GET THE MOST SHADE, THE MOST COVERAGE, OUR SOUTHERN LIVE OAK IS REALLY OUR BEST OPTION.

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WE'VE GOT THOSE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES THAT WE MENTIONED.

BUT AS OUR FIRST CHOICE, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE TREE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND WE GOT TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR THAT FROM FROM OUR GROUP.

WE'RE ALSO WORKED WITH LASSITER AND ASSOCIATES TO HELP US SCREEN PLANT RECOMMENDATIONS AND SIZING REQUIREMENTS, SOIL VOLUME REQUIREMENTS IN THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN WE ALSO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PLANTS WE WERE RECOMMENDING IN THIS MASTER PLAN ARE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.

WE CAN HAVE MORE IMPACT IF WE CAN USE SOME OF THE EXISTING PLANT MATERIAL OUT THERE.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE LIVE OAKS ON THIS CORRIDOR.

SO WE WANT TO EXPAND UPON THAT.

THESE WERE PLANTED LATER ON WHEN THE PUBLIX HAD HIT A SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION POINT.

AND THEY THEY PUT IN SOME SOME OAK TREES ALONG THAT PART OF THE CORRIDOR.

AND THEN THERE'S A PALM OVER THERE, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON LATER, WHERE WE HAVE UTILITY CONFLICTS.

WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING THAT LARGE.

SO IN THOSE CASES, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE PIGEON PLUM AND THE SILVER BUTTONWOOD WHERE WE CANNOT PUT TREES BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME EXISTING USES THAT ARE REALLY INCOMPATIBLE TO DROPPINGS FROM TREES AND PLANTS.

AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD ONLY BE IN THE CASE OF EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ALREADY PART OF THAT LANDSCAPE.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE FOXTAIL PALM.

THIS IS AGAIN, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FOXTAIL PALM ALREADY, BUT THE CITY HAS A LOT OF THESE IN THEIR LANDSCAPE ALREADY.

THEY'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH THEM IN THEIR PLANTINGS ON THE RIGHT OF WAYS WHEN YOU HAVE NARROW SPACES.

SO THIS WOULD ONLY BE IN LIMITED USE WITH WITH USES THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCOMPATIBLE TO AN OAK TREE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A AN EXISTING AUTO DEALERSHIP OR A BOAT SALES FACILITY THAT'S ALREADY ON THIS CORRIDOR.

AND THE SPACE WOULD BE REALLY LIMITED.

WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF OTHER PALMS. AS I MENTIONED, THAT WAS WHERE WE SWITCHED AROUND THE PLANT SPECIES THE MOST IN OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST RECOMMENDATION.

AND I'LL MENTION THE LETHAL BRONZING ISSUE AGAIN, IT'S AFFECTING THE DATE PALMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, AND IT'S ALSO AFFECTING A LOT OF OUR EXISTING NATIVE SABLES AND PALMETTOS.

UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, WORKING WITH WITH IFAS, THEY'VE REALLY JENNIFER HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE AND SHE HELPED ME FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT SOME OTHER PALMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MORE DISEASE RESISTANT BECAUSE THESE ARE CRA FUNDS, THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE TO DISEASES.

AND AGAIN, POINTING OUT THAT THIS IS ONE THAT IS IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY THAT TO TO USE TO CREATE SUCCESS WITHIN THE CITY.

THIS IS ON PALM BEACH ROAD ACROSS FROM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND ALONG J.D.

PARKER ELEMENTARY.

WE ALSO INCLUDED AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MEDIAN, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MEDIAN PLANTINGS NOW, A PURPLE TRUMPET TREE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A TREE THAT'S BEING USED IN THE CITY ALREADY TO CREATE SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE PLANT PALETTE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT SAYS YOU'VE ARRIVED TO STUART.

THE PURPLE COLOR ALSO TIES INTO THE PURPLE BOUGAINVILLEA THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE ON US ONE.

THIS WOULD JUST BE USED IN THE MEDIANS.

AND THEN AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE PALMS FOR OUR ADDING IN A STATEMENT PALMS ALONG THE MEDIAN.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE ROYAL PALM AGAIN, IT'S A FLORIDA FRIENDLY PLANTING.

IT'S GOT WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE EXISTING PALMS ALREADY ON THE SIDES OF THE CORRIDOR FOR SOME OF THESE LARGER PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO MATCHES WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT SPECIES TO TRY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE ALREADY.

BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S, AGAIN, THE MOST RESISTANT OR MORE SUITED TO BE RESISTANT TO LETHAL BRONZING AND A BETTER INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY. AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMENDED WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE MEDIAN FRANGIBLE PALM.

THIS, AGAIN, WOULD ONLY BE USED IN THE MEDIAN, AND THIS IS IN THE SECTIONS OF THE MEDIAN WHERE THE MEDIAN GETS SO NARROW.

LET'S SAY IT'S ONLY SIX FEET WIDE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE FDOT WON'T LET YOU PLANT ANYTHING WITH A LOT OF GIRTH TO IT, LIKE A LARGER PALM.

AND SO IT HAS TO BE A PALM THAT SAY IF A CAR WERE TO COME INTO IT, THE CAR WOULD WIN AND THE PALM WOULD LOSE.

THAT'S A FRANGIBLE PALM.

AND SO YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE IN EFFECT, IN YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GONE OUT TO US, IF YOU'RE ON KENNER HIGHWAY, GETTING ONTO 95, SOME OF THOSE THINNER SOLITAIRE PALMS ARE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE THOSE COULD BE USED IS A REALLY NARROW SECTION OF THE MEDIAN.

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NOW, WITH ALL THIS RECOMMENDED INVESTMENT BY THE CRA AND BY THE CITY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALSO ADDRESSING WHAT HAPPENS WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SO THAT THE EXPECTATION FOR ANY REDEVELOPMENT OR INFILL IS EXPRESSED AT THE OUTRIGHT SO THAT WE'RE NOT CLEANING THIS UP IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S THIS SEGMENT HERE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE THAT DELINEATES A MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE FROM CERTAIN STREETS. US ONE IN THIS SEGMENT OF OUR STUDY AREA WAS INCLUDED IN THAT.

SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME MINIMUM STANDARDS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT SETBACK.

THAT SETBACK WAS ALREADY REQUIRED TO BE 20FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WITHIN THAT SETBACK, WE ARE ILLUSTRATING SOME OPTIONS FOR WHAT A PROPERTY OWNER COULD DO TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM TEN FOOT SHARED USE PATH OR SIDEWALK AND A TEN FOOT SPACE OF EITHER LANDSCAPE ISLANDS OR LANDSCAPE STRIP, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT USE IS AND WHAT WHAT OPTIONS BEST SUIT THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER AND THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

JUST GO BACK AS PART OF A CARROT FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING A PROVISION THAT WILL TALK ABOUT FOR LET'S SEE I'M GOING TO USE A MORE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, BUT.

UH, I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PLAN.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PLAZA RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S THE EXISTING CONDITION HAS SOME HIDDEN PARKING HERE.

THIS IS A REALLY TIGHT INTERSECTION AND A REALLY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

YOU DO ACTUALLY, IN FACT, HAVE PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN WALKING TO SHEPARD'S PARK AND VICE VERSA.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNAL CONFLICTS IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHAT ALL THOSE LITTLE BLACK SPOTS ARE.

SO IN THE CASE LIKE THIS, WHERE THEY IMPLEMENT, IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS WILLING TO BE A PART OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A PARKING CREDIT FOR THE PARKING SPACES THAT WERE LOST AS PART OF THAT THAT THAT SIDEWALK AND LANDSCAPING IMPLEMENTATION. AND THAT HAS A LIMIT TO THE SPACES THAT WERE EXISTING AND WERE REPLACED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MASTER PLAN OR A LIMIT OF 10%.

SO WHICHEVER IS GREATER.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHAT'S IN THE PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE FOR THOSE EXISTING REDEVELOPING SITES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR INFILL SITES.

THIS WOULD THE PARKING CODE RELIEF WOULDN'T BE A PART OF THEIR PROGRAM.

AGAIN, THIS ILLUSTRATION.

AND THEN THE NEXT PART OF THIS IS THIS IS ALL VOLUNTARY.

NOBODY'S BEING REQUIRED TO DO THIS AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM IS CONCERNED, IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.

SO AS PART OF THAT, IF THIS GETS APPROVAL THROUGH THE CRB, CRA AND THE CITY COMMISSION, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THEN TO GO OUT AND TALK TO ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND GET THEIR VOLUNTARY SUPPORT AND BUY IN FOR THIS PROGRAM.

WHERE WE ARE IN OUR TIMELINE.

WE ACTUALLY KICKED THIS PROJECT OFF QUITE A WAYS AGO AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE PRESENTING THIS MONTH TO THE CRB, THE LPA AND THE CITY COMMISSION, AS I MENTIONED.

AND THEN AFTER THOSE PIECES, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL GO TO THE TARGETED OUTREACH TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND AGAIN HOPEFULLY EXPRESSING TO THEM THE VALUE OF THIS TO THEIR PROPERTIES AND THAT IT CAN HELP TO IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THEIR PROPERTY, THAT THERE IS SOME SOME PARKING RELIEF IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM AND REALLY HELP TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON IMPROVING THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE AREA WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

THAT'S CONCLUDES.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR JESSICA? AND YOU KEEP GOING, BABY.

AS FAR AS TARGETED OUTREACH, LIKE WHAT IS THAT LOOK LIKE? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? HOW? AND I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE ALL OF THIS KICK OFF AND DUE DILIGENCE PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, FINAL PROGRAM PRESENTATIONS.

AND WITHOUT ANY OF THAT OUTREACH, DO WE REALLY KNOW IF ANY OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? SO LIKE CROMWELL OWNS THAT PLAZA THAT YOU POINTED OUT, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY HALF OF HIS PARKING.

AND IF I OWN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, IT'S AN UNEQUIVOCAL NO.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO MAYBE MOVE SOME OF THAT TARGETED OUTREACH TO BEFORE THIS GOES BEFORE

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SO WE WANTED TO GET THE BUY IN OF THE BOARDS OF THESE COMMUNITY OUTREACH BOARDS.

I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE INCLUDED MAIN STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL.

SO THEY COULD GET WE COULD GET SOME OF THAT PROPERTY OWNER PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A IS A PROGRAM THAT SOUNDS ATTRACTIVE TO THEM.

IT WOULD BE VOLUNTARY.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHO'S WILLING TO PARTICIPATE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF VERY LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS TO WHICH COULD REALLY DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE WAY THIS LOOKS VERY QUICKLY.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, LIKE YOU SAID, WHO MAY BE LIKE, NO, I NEED EVERY SINGLE SPACE I CAN GET.

NOW, WE AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IF YOU FLASH BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE MASTER PLANS, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE LOOKED AT IS THE LOLITA SEAFOOD, LOLA SEAFOOD.

I MEAN, AND THAT SITE WE DID SOME RECONFIGURING OF HOW THAT COULD WORK AND STILL IMPLEMENT THE SHADE TREES AND THE SIDEWALK AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY GAIN SOME PARKING SPACES WITH SOME RECONFIGURING OF THEIR SITE AND HOW THEIR CIRCULATION IS DONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CASES WHERE IT'S A MATTER OF RECONFIGURING THE SITE AND THERE COULD BE A BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, HOMEOSTASIS, LET'S SAY, NO, NO, NO NET LOSS IN PARKING SOME OF THESE SPACES.

THEY DON'T NEED ALL THAT PARKING.

THEY VERY RARELY NEED THAT.

AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY OVER PARKED.

SO IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND AND I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS ON THE TREE SELECTION.

DOES THIS REALLY GET US TO A PLACE WHERE THERE'S LIKE A UNIFORM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I PAID ATTENTION TO A LOT OF THE TREES, LIKE MOST OF THEM.

I'LL LEAVE THE SPECIFIC COMMENTS TO FRANK BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME, BUT.

YOU KNOW, DOES THIS OFFER ALMOST TOO MUCH SELECTION AND GET US INTO A PLACE WHERE, LIKE, WE END UP WITH A LOT OF LIKE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHERE ROYAL PALMS GOT ROYALS, PUBLIX HAS OAKS. SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S POWER LINES LIKE.

RIGHT. DOES THIS OFFER THE THE COHESION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS KIND OF THE END GOAL HERE? I MEAN, I ABSOLUTELY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANTED TO HAVE TWO SPECIES, RIGHT? WE WANTED TO GO JUST BRING TWO SPECIES TO THE MAXIMUM EFFECT.

AND IT JUST WITH THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY WITH OVERHEAD LINES, WITH LITTLE TINY SPACES.

I MEAN, MANY OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS, THEIR BUILDINGS ARE WITHIN WHAT IS WHAT WOULD BE THE SETBACK TODAY.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S JUST NOT THE SPACE.

AND WE WANT WE ALSO HELD AT A HIGH PRIORITY KEEPING THE PLANTS SUCCESSFUL.

RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO PUT AN OAK TREE WHERE IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WE'RE TAKING IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S PULLED UP THE SIDEWALK OR IT'S PULLING UP SOMEBODY'S PARKING SPACES.

SO THAT SAID, WE WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS.

WE TRIED TO BE AS LIMITED AS POSSIBLE.

AND THE LITMUS TEST WAS ALWAYS, IS IT A FLORIDA FRIENDLY? YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION.

IS IT FLORIDA FRIENDLY SPECIES? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION BEING, IS IT USED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE CORRIDOR? AND IF IT'S USED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE CORRIDOR, IT WAS IT WAS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE VARIATION THAN MAYBE WE HAD HOPED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IF THIS HAPPENS AND IF A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT PARCELS JUMP IN ON THIS PROGRAM, IT COULD HAVE A BIG EFFECT AND REALLY SET THE STAGE.

I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC.

OKAY. AND FINAL QUESTION.

IS THIS? I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OLD PROPERTIES ALONG THAT ROAD.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S THE FUNERAL HOME THAT'S BEEN SHUT DOWN.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE REDEVELOPED.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY.

THAT ARE MOVING IN THAT REDEVELOPMENT CONVERSATION.

BUT IS THERE MORE THAT.

WE CAN BE IS THERE DOES REDEVELOPMENT? DO MORE TO HELP THAT CORRIDOR THAN THIS PROGRAM.

AND IF SO.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY THOSE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, WE NEED TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE TO SAY, OH, WE ACTUALLY WE NEED TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THIS AND IMPROVE THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING WE HAVE OUT THERE TODAY AND THE QUALITY OF LANDSCAPING AND THE FREQUENCY OF THE LANDSCAPING AND THE SHADE TREES.

SO THAT'S BEEN WHY PART OF THE REASON WHY ABSOLUTELY REDEVELOPMENT IS KEY.

THERE'S ALSO JUST A LOT OF PROPERTIES, THOUGH, THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO SIT AROUND HERE FOR A WHILE.

AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN A TOOL ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IN HOW WE CAN TALK TO APPLICANTS ABOUT, WELL, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING IT THIS WAY? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THESE SPECIES? AND IN A WAY OF AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

SO WE, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR THE SITE.

SO WE ARE ALREADY ENGAGING WITH THE APPLICANT AND USING THE MASTER PLAN TOOL TO GUIDE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY AS FAR AS DOING EXTENSION OF THE SIDEWALK LANDSCAPING.

SO WE ARE ALREADY TALKING TO THEM AND IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MASTER PLAN.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WE HAVE A OUTPARCEL PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN THE PUBLIX SITE, SO WE ARE ALSO TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN. SO WE ARE ALREADY ENGAGING WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THIS CODE KIND OF SETS THE TABLE.

IT WILL FROM A LANDSCAPING PERSPECTIVE FOR THAT FOR THAT REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? AND IT'S ALSO BEEN BEEN A LITMUS TEST THEN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE HOW DO THESE FIT WITHIN YOUR PROPOSED USES AND YOUR PROPOSED SITE PLANNING? DOES IT IS IT WORKING? AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS A VERY HELPFUL TOOL WHEN YOU HAVE LIVE PROJECTS AND WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF TEST THEM WITH THIS THESE CODE LANGUAGE.

SETH DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FRANK DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? SO THIS REDUCES TRAFFIC FLOW IN.

NO, NO WAY. CORRECT? NO, NO, NO IMPACT TO THE EXISTING TRAVEL LANES.

SO WE'LL BE ASKING THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE EAST SIDE TO DO SOMETHING.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH FDOT TO HELP POSITION THIS MASTER PLAN SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GO AFTER GRANT DOLLARS FOR TO HELP SUPPLEMENT IMPLEMENTING ONCE WE HAVE THOSE WILLING PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

OKAY. SO I REALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MILTON.

SO, MILTON, YOU'VE BEEN CONSULTED.

I TAKE IT ON THIS.

COME ON UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE.

ELTON PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

HOW CAN I HELP YOU, SIR? YOU'VE BEEN CONSULTED ON THIS.

WE'VE TALKED WITH THE CRA, AND.

AND SINCE YOU ARE REALLY OUR MASTER GARDENER.

OKAY, YOU SORT OF AGREE.

YOU AGREE WITH THE CHOICES IN THE TREES AND THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT.

AND IT CAN BE MAINTAINED WHEN IT'S ON PUBLIC, RIGHT OF WAY AND SO FORTH.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE. YES.

THEY DID THE RESEARCH AND EVERYTHING, AND I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THE TREES THEY CHOSE AND STUFF LIKE THE FOXTAIL PALMS. THEY'RE DOING GREAT ON PALM BEACH ROAD AND SOME OF THE OTHER TREES, THE DATE PALMS. WE WERE HAVING A LITTLE STRUGGLE WITH THOSE, BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE CONFIDENT IN THE SELECTION PROCESS? YES. WHAT WHAT WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED? YES. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY. THANK YOU, MILTON.

YES, SIR. AND I'M ALSO ASSUMING.

NO, NO, NO. NOW, I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO JODY.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BUY IN FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND. AND YOU'VE BEEN CONSULTED ON THIS PLAN, I TAKE IT.

GOOD EVENING, BOARD. MY NAME IS JODY NATWICK KUGLER.

I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

AND YES, WE HAVE BEEN CORRESPONDING BACK AND FORTH AND WORKING WITH JESSE ON THE TREE PLANNING PROGRAM AND ALSO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TAX AMENDMENT AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED? YES, I AM.

OKAY. GO AHEAD.

HAS THERE. WHAT'S BEEN THE.

WHAT'S BEEN THE RECEPTION BY THE COUPLE OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN FOR YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S AN APPLICATION IN ON THE THERE'S AN APPLICATION IN ON THE OR AN EARLY PRE APP ON THE PUBLIX.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY FEEDBACK ON ON THIS PROPOSAL AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED OR THIS CODE AMENDMENT AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED?

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THEY DID HAVE A PRE APP WITH US AND SAME WITH PUBLIX, IS THAT WE ALSO WHEN WE DID THE PRE APP REPORT, WE DID INTRODUCE THE THIS THIS PARTICULAR TREE PLANTING PROGRAM. SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD ANY LIKE DIALOG WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICANTS.

WE'VE JUST BEEN LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, HEY, THIS IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.

THESE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN BENEFIT AS MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR PROJECTS AND KIND OF INTRODUCING THEM TO THE TO THE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO ALSO SAY THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT THE CRA SHOULD BE DOING.

SO IF WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY, I'D MUCH RATHER SPEND MONEY ON THIS AND SPEND MONEY ON PRIVATE BUSINESSES.

SO NOT THAT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT JUST MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE TO ME.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 2023? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 12 2023.

NUMBER 1220.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 1223 THREE.

OKAY. CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OKAY.

THIS COULD BE IT. ALL IN FAVOR, RIGHT? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, JESSE.

OKAY. NEXT LDC AMENDMENT IN RELATION TO US, ONE FEDERAL HIGHWAY.

THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND DONE IT ALL.

YEAH, AND WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

THAT WILL GO TO LPA AND CITY COMMISSION FOR ADOPTION.

OKAY. SO REALLY NO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, JUST FEEDBACK, WHICH YOU DID.

OKAY. SO WE'RE DONE WITH THAT.

WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE BOARD? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU. MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU, JORDAN, FOR GETTING THOSE GREEN CARDS SIGNED.

THANK YOU, JORDAN.

SORRY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.