Aug 28, 2023 Regular City Commission Meeting

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WHAT WAS SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE A BUSINESS? YOU READY? YES OKAY. OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, UH, LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ORDER THE REGULAR STUART CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR HOW LATE IT'S RUNNING. FOR THE START OF THIS MEETING. WE HAD A LONG CR A MEETING UP PRIOR TO THIS SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. MARY

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THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE WORK OF UNITED STATES AMERICA SAYS. VISIBLE. AROUND.

[1. US-1 AT SW PALM CITY ROAD MULTIMODAL INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT FEASIBILITY STUDY]

WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS AND WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT INPUT. WE HAD PROBABLY CLOSE TO 88 PEOPLE AT THAT OPEN HOUSE BASED ON THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED , WE WORK TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE FEASIBLE. ALL OF THEM ARE FEASIBLE. THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. AND THE GERALD BALDWIN WHAT KIND OF GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. BUT BASED ON THE THAT FIRST GROUP OF PUBLIC INPUT PLUS SITTING DOWN AND LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT AREA THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE ALTERNATIVES. AND THEN LAST WEEK WE HAD OUR SECOND OPEN HOUSE AND SO PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. AND ONCE AGAIN WE HAD A GREAT GROUP THAT CAME THEY WERE VERY ENGAGED, AND GERALD WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND THE MIC OVER TO HIM. WELCOME, GERALD. MAYOR VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, THANK YOU. BETH INTRODUCTION THERE. UH, I WILL START AND JUST SAY WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AND WORK WITH MPO ON THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE FOR THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS HERE. IT'S UH IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT. THERE'S A LOT OF BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING IT FORWARD, MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD AND COMING TO JOINT RESOLUTION, SO TO SPEAK. OF WHAT? I, UH PLAN WOULD BE FOR THE INTERSECTION SO UH, SO I'LL KIND OF UNDER START FROM THERE. WORKING. THERE IT GOES. YEAH I'M PUSHING THE WRONG BUTTON. SORRY UH, SO QUICKLY, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE GONNA KIND OF DO THIS GENERAL PROJECT INFORMATION. THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ALTERNATIVES IS AS BAD AS FLAMED THOSE THAT WERE

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SLOW SPEED, RIGHT TURN. YOU KNOW 5 TO 8 MPH RIGHT TURN AT THE INTERSECTION HERE. YOU WOULD HAVE AN INCREASED LIKELIHOOD OF REAR END COLLISIONS. SO IT IS A MY CON FOR THAT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT FOR THIS. ALTERNATIVE FORWARD. AH! THIS ALTERNATIVE CAME ABOUT THROUGH ONE OF OUR PACK. MEMBERS. UM AND HE AND I KIND OF DISCUSS BACK AND FORTH AND CAME AND IT WAS. THIS WAS NOT EXACTLY HIS HIS IDEA, BUT IT WAS KIND OF HOW WE PUT PUT BOTH PUT OUR MINDS TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH A CONCEPT THAT WE FELT LIKE MADE SENSE AND WOULD POTENTIALLY WORK. UH SORRY.

THERE WE GO. AGAIN IT'S ELIMINATING THE FREE FLOW. RIGHT BUT WE'RE ADDING, WE ARE ADDING A RIGHT TURN DECELERATION LANE, BUT WE'RE KIND OF WHAT I WOULD SAY TO MEANDERING IT THROUGH OR PUTTING IT IN KIND OF A LIKE A LARGE CHANNEL EYES, RIGHT? SO TO SPEAK. WHERE UH, IT DOESN'T COME UP TO THE INTERSECTION, BUT YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND, UH, RELOCATE THEM AND REALIGN THEM TO THIS AREA HERE. UH, THAT WOULD REDUCE THEIR SPEEDS. UH, THE OTHER PART THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD HELP REDUCE THEIR SPEEDS AS WE WOULD LOOK AT PUTTING IN A RACE CROSSWALK ON THE END OF IT SO THEY WOULD LITERALLY COME DOWN AND THEN HAVE IT HAVE THAT RACE CROSSWALK THERE THAT WOULD BE SIGNED AND WITH FLASHING, FLASHING LIGHTS AND SUCH AS PEDESTRIANS. THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE ADDING SOME SIDEWALK ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TRIANGLE REMOVAL OF THE SIDEWALK . THAT'S ALONG US, SO IT'S A PEDESTRIAN IF YOU WERE WALKING FROM THE PUBLIC'S AND GOING NORTH ON U. S ONE. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY COME UP ACROSS THE INTERSECTION. COME DOWN THE SOUTH SIDE ACROSS HERE AND THEN YOUR OWN. THE SIDEWALK RUNNING UP. IN FRONT OF CUBE SMART AND THEN TYING BACK INTO US ONE THERE. SO THE PROS TO THIS, UH I FEEL LIKE A NO RECORD HERE.

MONORY DEDUCTION IN VOLUMES AGAIN. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO MUCH FOR VOLUMES. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH FOR SPEEDS ONCE YOU GET SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION. BUT IT DOES HAVE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY UNCONTROLLED CROSSWALKS OF SPEAK , AT LEAST HAVE THAT RAISED CROSSWALK THERE WITH SIGNING MARKINGS AND LIGHTS. THE CONS AGAIN, NOT NOT NECESSARILY REDUCE THE SPEEDS. THERE ARE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE UTILITIES IN THE TRIANGLE. AH THINK THERE'S PROBABLY NO WAY OF AVOIDING IMPACTS IF WE DO ANYTHING. ON IN THE TRIANGLE. UH AND THEN. THE SITUATION OF SLOWING DOWN POTENTIALLY DOES CREATE THE REAR END COLLISIONS FOR RIGHT TURNS VERSUS THE FREE FLOW, RIGHT? ALTERNATIVE FIVE ACTUALLY JUST BUILD SEWN ALTERNATIVE FOR, UH, TO TRY TO HELP, UH, WITH THE SPEED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION. ALTERNATIVE

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SO WHAT WE DID. WE BROUGHT THIS IN TO KIND OF ADDRESS OR SATISFIED THOSE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC TO GET IT IN. THIS COULD BE KIND OF AN ADD ON OR IN ADDITION TO ANY OF THE INTERSECTION, ALTERNATIVES THAT WE THAT JUST LOOKED AT ONE THROUGH FIVE. YOU COULD DO THIS, UH, AS PART OF IT ON THE ON THE OTHER END, SO JUST AN ENHANCEMENT TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE SPEEDS AND VOLUME SOUTH OF THE PUBLIC'S AND THE IN THE IN THE CREEK. THE BRIDGE. THE PROS TO IT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO REDUCE THOSE SPEEDS AND VOLUMES . UH DOWN THERE INCREASED BICYCLE SAFETY ALONG THE CORRIDOR ABOUT DOING THE BICYCLE LANES, ADDING THE MULTI USE TRAIL THE CONS. AND THIS WAS A COMMENT THAT WE HEARD. THAT HAD SOME CITIZENS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WAS DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT FORCES TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR. TO KEEP OUT FOR. THE WHOLE TIME THAT YOU KNOW THAT THEY BEEN THERE AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS IF WE DO ANYTHING WE GOT, WE HAVE TO HAVE MAKE SURE DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THAT LIKELIHOOD THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY WOULD INCREASE THAT LIKELIHOOD. BUT ONLY SLIGHTLY ABOVE WHAT'S OUT THERE. NOW IT'S JUST ADDING MORE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE SOME OF THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AH I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE VERY MINOR IF ANYTHING. AH PROBABLY NOT REALLY NOTICEABLE. UNLESS YOU REALLY PROBABLY SAT THERE AND COUNTED THE NUMBER OF CARS ONE DAY TO THE NEXT. YOU KNOW THAT IT USED TO BE 10. NOW IT'S 12. AH! JUST YEAH, I THINK IT COULD BE A MINOR IMPACT THERE.

SO WE PUT TOGETHER BASED ON ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE UH, THE OPERATIONS, THE IMPACTS OF PHYSICAL IMPACTS OF THE ALTERNATIVES. AH OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE I DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY THOSE THOSE WERE ON THE BOTTOM OF EACH OF THE SLIDES.

AND THEN GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THIS IS REALLY NOT A SCORING TABLE OR OR SUCH. IT'S KIND OF IT'S JUST A COMPARISON. AND WHAT IT IS, IS A COMPARISON OF THE FIVE ALTERNATIVES TO EACH OTHER, NOT TO HEY, THIS IS THE BEST OF EVERYTHING IS COMPARING YET TO THE OTHER. OTHER FOUR

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THAT'S MEANS IT'S THE BEST FOR THAT CATEGORY OPEN CIRCLE. IT'S THE WORST FOR THAT CATEGORY OF THE FIVE. NOT NOT COMPARED TO ANYTHING ELSE JUST OF THESE FIVE OPINION OF PROBABLE COST AGAIN.

THOSE REALLY JUST STRAIGHT HERE IS THE CHEAPEST. HERE'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND CANADA'S BROKE IT DOWN THAT WAY. UH AND THEN THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IF YOU RECALL THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES HAD ON THE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST SLIDES. AH, THE MOBILITY WITHIN THE INTERSECTION REDUCED. THE VOLUME PRODUCED THE SPEEDS. WE LOOKED AND HOW TO EACH ONE OF THESE ALTERNATIVES, ADDRESSED THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. AND HOW WOULD WE EVALUATE THAT? AND GIVE THEM A GRAVE. SO TO SPEAK FOR THAT. SO UM, SO THIS IS JUST THAT SUMMARY THAT COMPARES SEUIN OBVIOUSLY ALTERNATIVE FOR HAS GOT A GOT THREE BIG CIRCLES THERE THAT ARE FILLED IN. UH BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT THAT NECESSARILY DO EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO DO SO, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMPARISON. BECAUSE EVERYBODY LOOK AT IT AND GO. ALWAYS CHEAPER. OH, IT'S THIS. SO IT'S THAT BUT IT DIDN'T DO DIDN'T MEET YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE OVERALL STUDY AND SO DOING NOTHING. SO IT AH, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON LIKE I SAID THAT WE LIKE TO USE THESE TYPES OF CHARTS AND SUCH TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE THESE DAYS IS WHEN WE DO THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. HMM. SO. WE HAD A COUPLE OF PAC MEETINGS. UH, REVIEWED THE ALTERNATIVES HAD HAD THEM TAKE THE ALTERNATIVES. GO BACK. REVIEW THEM MORE, UH, THANK YOU. EVEN SOME OF THE F DOT STAFF ACTUALLY SHARED IT WITH SOME OF THEIR ENGINEERS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AS WELL. SO TO BE ABLE TO YEAH. GET GET A BAROMETER. WHAT? HOW THEY SAW IT, SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, THOUGH, IS THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DELIVERY TRUCKS GETTING INTO AND OUT OF THE PUBLIC'S AND THE BACK. AND IF WE IF WE DO LIKE THE RACE CROSSWALK ON ON THE ALTERNATIVES FOR FIVE, THERE'S CONCERN THAT THEY COULD GO AROUND, RIGHT. I MEAN, THEY COULD GO AROUND AND THEN IN THE BACK THERE, NOT THERE'S OTHER WAYS OTHER WAYS FOR THEM TO GET IN. UH YOU KNOW THE TURN RADIO ON ALTERNATIVE THREE WHERE WE DID THE JUST THE IMPROVED RADIUS THERE ON THE INTERSECTION THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SHORT TERM FOR A HEAVY TRUCK TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK TO MAKE THAT MOVE.

SO YES, THEY WOULD. THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT GOING INTO THE FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COME OUT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE BACK TOWARD THE LOADING DOCKS, AND SUCH ARE SORT OF ORIENTED TO GO BACK OUT ONTO US ONE. AND THEN THEY CAN GO BACK OUT ON THE U. S ONE BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY. SO THEY'RE DOING A CIRCLE. THAT'S CORRECT. UH, THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AT THE INTERSECTION. UH THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT ALTERNATIVE THREE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE RIGHT TURN WOULD HAVE SOME PRETTY NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS THERE. AND THEN THE OVERALL COST OF THAT ALTERNATIVE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN. FOR WHAT? WHAT? WHAT IT WAS ACCOMPLISHING. UH AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE CONCERN FOR THE RACE CROSSWALKS. UH THAT WAS NOT ONLY FROM THE TRUCK STANDPOINT, BUT FOR UH, PASSENGER CARS THAT COME DOWN THROUGH THERE. THEY COME DOWN THROUGH THERE PRETTY HEAVY THERE. THEY HAVE THAT RACE CROSSWALK. THEY'RE GONNA KNOW IT PROBABLY WOULD DO IT ONCE AND REMEMBER NOT TO DO IT AGAIN. UH BUT THAT CREATES A PEDESTRIAN. CONCERN THERE BECAUSE IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE STILL GETTING ENOUGH

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WE ACTUALLY HAVE. THE NEXT FEW SLIDES TALK MORE ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS. SO AGE WERE THE TWO THAT THAT THE PACT BROUGHT SAID HEY, HERE'S HERE'S WHAT WE SAW WITH SUPPORT. OR WHAT WE PREFER. PUBLIC WORKSHOP. UH. IT'S BETH MENTIONED AT THE VERY BEGINNING, HAD GREAT ATTENDANCE HAD ABOUT OVER LITTLE OVER 80 10 DAYS AT IT. SO BOTH PUBLIC WORKSHOPS WE HAD 80 PLUS PEOPLE. AH WE RECEIVED 23 WRITTEN COMMENT. CARDS. UH. AND I THINK WE RECEIVED PROBABLY 70 AT THE FIRST PUBLIC WORKSHOP. THE SECOND ONE WAS MORE HEY, GET GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK. THEN WITH SOME CANDLES, SOME GRADING SCORING PREFERENCES TYPE THINGS THAT THAT I'LL SHARE JUST A SECOND OF HOW WE DID THAT FOR EACH ALTERNATIVE, SO I THINK THAT NECESSARILY ABOUT TO CUT DOWN ON THE COMMENTS, BUT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM EACH STATION AS PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES AND INCLUDED THOSE SOME OF THE GENERAL COMMENTS.

UH, AND THIS WAS ONE THAT MORE PEOPLE MADE DURING THE MEETING, AND THEN MULTIPLE PEOPLE MADE IT ON THEIR COMMENT. CARD WAS NEED MORE ENFORCEMENT. FOR NOT ONLY SPEEDING, BUT FOR TRUCKS THAT ARE USING SOUTH WEST PALM CITY ROAD FURTHER SOUTH TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MONTEREY. UH, THE ONE I LOVE THE TRAFFIC COMING ALTERNATIVE, WHICH REALLY ADDRESSES WHAT GOALS WORK. UH, YOU'LL NEED NEED TO ADDRESS SOUTH WEST PALM CITY ROAD AND MONTEREY INTERSECTION. AH! THAT WASN'T PART OF THIS STUDY. BUT THAT'S KIND OF COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES THIS AND WE AND WE'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF IT. WE'VE HEARD CLOSE IT OFF. WE'VE HEARD PUT A SIGNAL IN ASK SO WE WE'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF IT. UH, THAT THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS THERE. THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS WITH WITH PEOPLE. MAKING BASICALLY LIKE AN ILLEGAL U TURN, SO TO SPEAK OF COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE, MAKING A U TURN TO COME BACK TO KIND OF COME BACK UP AND GO NORTH ON UH , TO CONTINUE NORTH. SO THAT WAS THOSE COMPONENTS. AH! FEW PEOPLE BASICALLY SAID, LOOK, THESE ARE BAND AIDS IN ADDRESSING OUR REAL PROBLEM. A REAL PROBLEM HAPPEN TO SAY WHAT THEY BELIEVED. THE REAL PROBLEM WAS. IT WELL, IT'S INTERESTING, I THINK YES AND NO UH, THE REAL PROBLEM IS. IS SPEEDING SOUTH OF THIS INTERSECTION. AND THE VOLUME OF CARS SOUTH OF THIS INTERSECTION. UH AND I'VE SAID IT. SEVERAL TIMES OVER THAT. THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY GET THE VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC DOWN ON THAT ROAD IF YOU HAVE TO CREATE A PHYSICAL BARRIER TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING IT. AH! AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM. ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES WAS HEY, LET'S JUST WITH US. DO THE RADIUS IMPROVEMENTS. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE CONCERN OF CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THEM. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE THAT INTERSECTION. THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO ONE OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND CUT ACROSS AND GROW THROUGH AND SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE JUST MOVING IT. AND SO THAT WAS UH AND THEN. MULTI MULTI USE

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WELL WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE THE SLIP RAMP IN AND JUST ADD A RACE CROSSWALK AT THE END OF IT TO

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WHEN IT WHEN IT GETS THE GREEN. UH OH. OR WHEN THE RED FOR THE LEFT TURN GETS RED. THEN THE SOUTHBOUND, RIGHT? GOOD. GOOD, THEN GET A GREEN AND GO. AH! LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY OPERATIONS. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT DLT WOULD WOULD HAVE SOME INPUT ON BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY. PART OF THE INTERSECTION, BUT IT IS PART OF THE INTERSECTION WITH THOSE BEING RESPECT CLOSELY SPACED AS THEY ARE. AH! UH, AS I SAID, THIS ONE WAS THE HEAVILY FAVORED ALTERNATIVE. 39 OF THE OF THE 50 VOTES FOR YES OR OURS ACCEPTABLE , ONLY SEVEN, SAID SAID NO TO IT, SO THIS WAS HEAVILY FAVORITE OF THE FIVE THAT WE HAD. TRAFFIC CALMING ALTERNATIVE AS I MENTIONED YOU GOT SOME STARS, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE UH, SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING MORE TRAFFIC COMING TO IT AND ACTUALLY PUT SOME RED DOTS ON THEIR FORCE. SO UH, SO. THEY WE NOTED THOSE AS NOSE TO IT. AND 57 YESES AND THE OTHER. 20 PLUS PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE MEETING WERE INDIFFERENT TO IT. WHETHER THEY LIKED IT, OR THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T

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OKAY I THINK WHAT I WANT TO DO NEXT IS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, BETH. YOU AND YOUR TEAM ALWAYS DO. SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB IS HERE FROM THE PUBLIC. AH SO THE FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER IS JOE FLANAGAN. MR FLANAGAN, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES GROOVE DRIVE AND YOU CAN GET ON YOUR KNEES SO THE MICROPHONE IS RIGHT. NO I CONCUR. ALSO THE PRESENTATION IN THE WORKSHOPS HAVE BEEN GREATER GERALD'S ON MY CHRISTMAS CARD LIST ALREADY, SO WE'RE GOOD. THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS TO BE AWARE OF I MENTALLY DRIVING DOWN U. S ONE. THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND THINKING. I THINK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS AN EXPRESS EXIT OFF OF US ONE. AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. NOW WE CAN WIGGLE THAT WE CAN CHANGE WHEREVER WE WANT TO. AND I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THE CELLS OF I LIKE THIS AND DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE IN EDUCATION. WE TRY TO REROUTE BEHAVIOR. SO IF THE BEHAVIOR IS THE SPEED, WHICH EVERY SINGLE ALTERNATIVE SAYS IT WILL NOT REDUCE THE SPEED BEYOND THIS INTERSECTION. AND THE VOLUME THEN WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN. TO QUOTE UNQUOTE FORCED THE TRAFFIC TO GO DOWN THE MAJOR ARTERIALS AND I KNOW THE STATE AND SOMETHING.

MAYBE THE COUNTY SAYS THAT OUR ROAD IS ONE AND I DISAGREE, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION IS TO HAVE THEM GO DOWN. U S ONE. GO DOWN CAN ER GO DOWN MONTEREY? GO OVER THE BRIDGE. DON'T CUT THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW IF WE BLOCKED THAT WHOLE OFF, THERE MAY BE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF FINE. I'M GOING TO GO DOWN TO US WHEN WE GO DOWN CANADA. AND WE CUT DOWN YOUR ROAD AND GO THE SAME WAY I'VE BEEN GOING, BUT IF WE CAN LESSEN THE VOLUME, IT WILL LISTEN TO SPEAK. SO THERE'LL BE FEWER CARS BECAUSE I'M REALLY GETTING TIRED OF BEING PASSED ON PALM CITY ROAD ON DOUBLE YELLOW LINE WHILE DOING 25 AND MAYBE PUSHING IT TO 30. TOO MANY PEOPLE, SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO, AND THAT IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE AND IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOING VERY, VERY NICE JOB. BUT AGAIN, JUST UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF CUTTING DOWN THE STREET. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT MORE THAN I CAN IN THE AFTERNOONS, HAVING THAT TRAFFIC BACKED ALL THE WAY UP ALMOST NEAR MY ROAD, SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS WOULD SAY, BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WE ASKED. THE MPO IS A RECOMMENDATION THEY DO A GREAT JOB IS TO PUT THIS ON A HIGH PRIORITY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET IT STUCK IN BUREAUCRATIC PURGATORY. SO THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MERIT MATH AND FORMER CITY COMMISSIONER. WELCOME MERIT. WELCOME BACK. AS YOU KNOW, THREE MINUTES, PLEASE. STATE YOUR NAME AND. MAYOR VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MERIT.

MATHESON. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. PALM CITY ROAD ON SOUTH CAROLINA DRIVE AND I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE OF PALM CITY ROAD AND I LIKE TO PRIDE MYSELF. WHEN I ANALYZE SOMETHING. AT TAKING A REALISTIC APPROACH AND TRYING TO PUT MYSELF IN SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE'S SHOES. SO HAVING SERVED ON THE MPO BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS. I WANT TO BRING EVERYONE IN THE ROOM A STEP BACK. AND LET'S LOOK

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AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A LONG PROCESS. BUT. THIS ALTERNATIVE DOES SEEM TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I CAN TELL YOU. MR FLANAGAN KNOWS HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HIM AND HIS WIFE ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC, CUTTING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS BETWEEN UM CANTOR HIGHWAY IN PALM CITY ROAD . I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE STREETS THAT DIDN'T EVEN GO DIRECTLY THROUGH. AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE WOULD GET EVERY DAY. I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF CARS CUTTING THROUGH EVERY DAY. THE THOUSANDS OF CARS GETTING THROUGH EVERY DAY AND THE TIME AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE NOT STUART RESIDENTS. MANY OF THEM AREN'T EVEN MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS, SO I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM, UM NO MORE THAN 15% OF OUR CITY RESIDENTS AND I BET CLOSE TO 50% ARE FROM OUT OF COUNTY. UM OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS FOR SURE. BUT BASED ON DEVELOPMENT RIDES, I'M PRETTY. I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT OF THAT.

AND IT IS AND IF YOU'RE TRYING, THERE'S A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. THERE'S SEVERAL, UM 55 PLUS CONDOS. THERE'S TWO OR THREE NON 55 PLUS CONDOS. THERE'S UH, LOTS OF HOUSING. THERE'S A LOTS OF FOOT TRAFFIC. A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING UP BACK AND FORTH FOR EXERCISE OR GOING TO THE STORE OR UM. SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING MOVING AND GETTING THIS GETTING IT FUNDED THROUGH ALL THE STATE AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. IF THERE'S COMMISSIONER ACCOUNTS. THIS IS THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDED ACTION. BUT BETH , YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM US. BASICALLY WE NEED TO GIVE A MOTION TODAY. YEAH, I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ON ALTERNATIVE FIVE WITH THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND ALSO ADD THE REGION IS PUSHED UP . THIS HIGH PRIORITY AS POSSIBLE YOU'RE ASKING IS THAT WE ARE AT THE MPO TO PUT IT ON THE

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MCDONALD'S COLLINS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MHM. OKAY LET'S MOVE ON TO COMMENTS BY

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

COMMISSIONER RICH. I HAVE NO COMMENTS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. COMMISSIONER COLLEGE. SURE. YOU THINK HE'S GOT A BOOK? A BOOK? YEAH. SO JUST JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM . ONE WAS AN EMAIL THAT CAME IN FROM A RESIDENT. AND IT WAS REGARDING THE STRAWS, WHICH I KNOW WE ALL SAW. AND THERE WAS INTERESTING RESEARCH. HE GOT ME TO KIND OF LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE WAS INTERESTING RESEARCH AROUND THE NON PLASTIC STRAWS AND. I ACTUALLY PRINTED THIS OUT SO I COULD SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY TO IT. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A FUNNY, YOU KNOW, NOT FUNNY, POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. BUT HOW YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT CAN TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OR HELP AND ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY CREATE BIGGER PROBLEMS. BUT WITHIN THE PLANT BASED STRAWS, THERE'S NOW MORE P. FOSS IN THESE PLANT BASED DRAWS VERSUS THE PLASTIC ONES.

SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE A STRAW. NO PLASTIC STRAW RULES STILL CORRECT. MIKE? YES.

SO. THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS A SMALL THING, BUT I DID THINK IT WAS INTERESTING AS I LOOKED INTO IT THAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY COMPELLING. BUSINESS OWNERS TO USE STRAWS THAT ARE TECHNICALLY CREATING MORE P. FOSS ENVIRONMENTALLY IN HUMANS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN REVISITING THE STRAWS AT SOME POINT, BUT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE WORTH FOR SENDING THAT IN LIGHT OF RECENT RESEARCH THAT CAME OUT THAT HIT FRIDAY. UM, ASSESSMENT OF POLY IN BASICALLY P. FOX AND COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DRINKING STRAWS USING TARGETED AND SUSPECTS SCREENING APPROACHES. BUT THAT WAS ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP. TWO. WAS I GOT TO.

I HAD THE PLEASURE WITH COMMISSIONER BURNER OF SITTING IN, UM AS BRIAN MASKS NEW LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR WAS BRIEFED BY THE ARMY CORPS, INCLUDING THEIR ONE OF THEIR MAIN ENGINEER AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE, AND IT WAS FASCINATING. I GOT TO TALK TO MAJOR COREY BELL, WHO IS GOING TO BE REPLACING LIEUTENANT COLONEL PAUL COOK. BUT IN THAT MEETING, AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER BRUNER. BUT IT IT LEFT ME AGAIN, DISTINCTLY. SURE THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ZERO DISCHARGE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, CHANGING THEIR OPINION OR A FEDERAL JUDGE? SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND THEN YOU'RE

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I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERCENTAGE BUT COLA COST OF LIVING INCREASE. RAISE THAT YOU KNOW, POLICE AND FIRE. NOT EVEN CLOSE, BUT EVEN THEIR PROPORTIONATE INCREASE. SO WITH THAT NEW OUR PIT CHANGE. UM WE COULD POTENTIALLY DEPLOY THE LAST OF OUR HALF A MILLION LEFT AT SAY, LIKE THE MANGO YOU KNOW , AROUND WHAT FOUR OR $500,000 TOWARD MANGO FOR THAT STORM WATER PROJECT. THAT COULD POTENTIALLY FREE UP HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR COLA INCREASES FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX A LITTLE BIT, BUT GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING PROCESS FOR ME. THINK ABOUT PRIORITIES, AND I WOULD SAY AND THIS IS NOT YOU KNOW, BE HARD ON ANY OF US. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE STAFF. YOU KNOW, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING REALLY HARD. EVERY DAY.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING AWAY A MILLION DOLLARS AND CERTAINLY NOT THAT HALF MILLION IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW. LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TAXES TO GO UP EITHER. I DON'T WANT HER MILLAGE TO GO UP, SO I WOULD SAY AND I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF DOWN THE ROAD HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN SEPTEMBER, ACTUALLY PICKING WHERE THAT 500,000 WOULD GO. BUT IF THERE WAS ANY WELL WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT POTENTIALLY LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND MAYBE DEPLOYING THAT ARP OF MONEY TOWARDS STORMWATER SO WE COULD FREE UP SOME GENERAL FOR STAFF.

WITHIN OUR BUDGET. THAT I WILL BE DONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. I STARTED OFF WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WE MAY HAVE A HURRICANE ON THE WEST COAST. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BE READY WITH OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO COME OUR WAY OR EVEN IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES IN OUR AREAS OF FLOODING AND OTHER THINGS, SO WE JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. I WANTED TO BRING IT UP WHEN WE HAD OUR MOMENT OF SILENCE IS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN IMPENDING POTENTIAL NATURAL DISASTER FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE OTHER THING IS, WE WENT THROUGH QUITE A BIT IN THE CR A MEETING BEFORE THIS, AND I HAVE TWO THINGS TO SAY ON THAT. AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT. BUT THE MAIN THING WAS THAT I'M NOT SURE MR CITY MANAGER OR CITY ATTORNEY . UM I HAVE A LOOK AT THIS IN A LITTLE WHILE, WHETHER OR NOT THE , UM SYRIA AGENDA AND THE CITY AGENDA. IS UNDER THE SAME RULE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL DATES THAT WE HAVE IT ON OR WHATEVER THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE AN OFFICIAL CHANGE. I THINK WE HAVE HAD NEEDED THE TIME AND I THINK OR MAYOR SUGGESTED THAT WE LOOK INTO, UM MAKE IT A NEW CHANGE. SO IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE UM, THE DATE OF THE C R A MEETING OR SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF WE NEED, I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS SOME PARTICULAR THING THAT DESIGNATED IT IN THE, UM IN OUR CHARTER, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE NEED TO DO THAT, I DEFINITELY LIKE TO BRING IT UP FOR CONSIDERATION TO COMPLETELY DIVORCES, CR A MEETINGS. FROM HAVING THEM BEFORE OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS. SO IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. AND IF WE HAVE TO NEED AN OFFICIAL MOTION, YOU CAN LET US KNOW THAT I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME THAT WE CAN. WE CAN DO THAT AND THEN RELATED TO THAT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE CAME UP AT THE C R A MEETING. WE HAVE THE CITY HALL HERE, WHICH IF WE MOVE TO THE WELLS FARGO, OR IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE OF THE WORLD'S FARGO BUILDING, OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO ANYTHING THAT BELONGS TO US A CITY PROPERTY. THAT WE ARE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE LEASES THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE DO WITH PEOPLE AND THEN WHEN WE MODIFY THOSE

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HOPEFULLY AND I PRAY FOR THOSE ON THE WEST COAST EVEN BEFORE IT COMES. IT SAYS THAT IT'S THAT MY COMMENT AT A VERY HIGH NUMBER JUST COMING IN OFF THE OCEAN. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. THANK YOU.

WELL UM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. OKAY OKAY TO, UM. COMMISSIONERS CLARK'S REMARKED, UH UM WE GOT INTO THE CITY PROPERTIES, AND I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE REALLY WELL FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE LEASES THAT THEY'VE MADE OVER THE YEARS AND ON THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, BUT UM, I'VE NOTICED. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT WE'RE HAVING TO BUILD REPAIR WHATEVER.

AND I'VE NOTICED, UM, LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, NOT ANYONE'S FAULT THAT WHEN WE GO IN AND ALLOW TENANTS TO START DIGGING AROUND, THERE'S MORE PROBLEMS AND MORE PROBLEMS AND MORE PROBLEMS, AND THEN WE END UP GETTING YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE LONGER TO RECEIVE OUR RENTS. SO UM, I AGREE THAT WHEN YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED RECENTLY THAT WE DO NEED TO SET SOME TYPE OF GUIDELINE DOWN BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY. UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY WELL UNDER MY COMMENT THAT WANT TO REITERATE WE DO HAVE A HURRICANE THAT FORECASTED COME OUR DIRECTION, BUT, UH, WE DO NEED TO BE VIGILANT. UM. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE KEEPING AN EYE OUT ON, UM I'M PRAYING THAT IT DOESN'T. THERE ALSO COULD BE PEOPLE COMING OUR WAY FROM EVACUATING FROM THE STORM, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER HIT ON ARE ARE VERY FRAGILE FOR TO HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE MARKET, WHICH IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING AN ISSUE AS I'VE SPOKEN WITH I HAVE SPOKEN WITH FOLKS FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONDO ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ARE STRUGGLING WITH DEALING WITH INSURANCE. SO NOT TO MENTION THE FAMILY MEMBERS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE 55 POST CONDOS. SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD, SO I JUST WANTED TO. THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE ON THAT. JUST UH, I DID SAY, I THINK THE BIG THING THAT KIND OF COMMENT ON A COUPLE OTHER ISSUES WITH THE HURRICANE , UM IT'S LIKELY THIS COULD LEAD TO DISCHARGES, UM, AS THE WEIGHT WITH DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH RAIN FALLS AND WHERE IT FALLS AND HOW LONG IT TAKES BEFORE IT GETS INTO THE LAKE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, UM AS TO THE C R A MEETINGS. WE HAVE TO START SCHEDULING MORE TIME FOR THE SIERRA MEETINGS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF HOW MUCH TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ACCOMPLISH THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. UM WE JUST CAN'T KEEP TRYING TO STUFF IT INTO A, UM AND, YOU KNOW, STUFF £10 OF POTATOES INTO A £5 BAG KIND OF THING. UM AND FINALLY, JUST UNDER STRAW THING. THE CONSENSUS AT SOME POINT. THE CONSENSUS IN THE COMMISSION IS WHAT WE LOOK

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

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AND WHAT PICK UP SEVEN OF THE LEAST SAID WAS THAT WHEN THEY WENT INTO THIS LONG TERM LEASE.

THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO REDEVELOP THE SITE AND THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET EVICTED. SO IT HAD A SERIES OF FOR EACH YEAR. WHAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO BUY THEM OUT AT IT IF YOU WANTED TO REDEVELOP THE SITE. AND ATTORNEY FOR THEM SAID THEY WANTED AN OPEN ENDED.

WHATEVER WE SPEND ON THE PROPERTY, WE WANT TO INCREASE THAT. MARGIN BY FOR WHATEVER THE COST IS. ON AUGUST 22ND 2002. THE CITY COMMISSION HELD A MEETING. AND I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE AT THE TIME FOR A 22 AND I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE AT THE TIME FOR A HEARING. UH IN FRONT OF THE CABINET, SO I WASN'T PRESENT AT THE MEETING. BUT THE CITY MANAGER HAD MET WITH THE COMMISSION. I THINK IT WAS AUGUST 21ST ACTUALLY. AND THE NEXT TO THE OKAY WHATEVER DAY IT WAS SO THE NEXT DAY. UM BECAUSE OF, UM FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER. NO ONE ON THE BOARD RAISED THE ISSUE OF ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT OF THE LEASE. FROM AUGUST 22ND UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER. I RECEIVED EMAILS FROM PALMER STARSKY ABOUT WANTING AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND I'M ROUGHLY SUBMITTED SEPTEMBER I SENT AN EMAIL TO MISTER MURDOCH WHISKEY, AND I SAID, LOOK. ON THAT DAY. I WASN'T THERE. THE CITY MANAGER INFORMED ME THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOT INCLINED TO CHANGE THE LEASE AGREEMENT TO GIVE YOU A BLANK CHECK. THE CITY COMMISSION HAS A VERY SPECIFIC PROCUREMENT POLICY THAT THE POST REALLY POLICY POLICY REQUIRES. AND WE WOULDN'T JUST AUTHORIZE YOU FOR AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT. UP TO $1.5 MILLION OR WHATEVER YOU REQUESTED IN YOUR EMAIL. WITHOUT YOU GIVING US SPECIFIC ITEMIZATION IN ADVANCE OF ALL THOSE NUMBERS. FOLLOWING THAT. THE CITY NEVER AMENDED THE LEASE THAT NEVER HAPPENED. THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH, THAT SAME ATTORNEY WAS COMMUNICATING AND BELIEVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR WHOEVER IT WAS. THEY STARTED TO PROGRESS FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT TO MODIFY THE PROPERTY ANYWAY TO DO WHATEVER IT WAS THAT THE REMODEL WAS IT WAS IN LIKE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER. WHILE THEY WERE DOING THAT. THEY DISCOVERED PROBLEMS UNDER THE FLOOR THAT WE'RE STRUCTURAL IN NATURE WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. I SAID TO THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME. NOW THAT YOU'RE ON NOTICE OF THIS ARE BUILDING INSPECTOR WAS CONCERNED THAT THE BUILDING MIGHT HAVE TO BE CONDEMNED.

THERE WAS JUST A GIANT CASE WHERE A BUILDING COLLAPSED IN FORT LAUDERDALE LAST YEAR FOR FAILURE TO DO TO DO FURTHER MAINTENANCE. WE WILL HAVE EXTREME LIABILITY IF THIS BUILDING IS FILLED WITH CUSTOMERS, AND IT COLLAPSES ONE DAY WE SHOULD BUILD THIS CORRECTLY. WE HIRED AN ENGINEER . THE ENGINEER WENT OUT CHECKED. IT SAID YEAH. YOU DON'T NEED TO CONDEMN IT, BUT WE SHOULD CORRECT IT. AT THE TIME, DAVID DYER SAID TO THEM, WE WILL SPLIT THE COST WITH YOU. GET BACK TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WAS SAID I WASN'T PRESENT.N DECEMBER 27TH. 2022 THAT SAME LAWYER. SENT IN EMAIL. TO CITY MANAGER SAYING, HERE'S OUR EXPENSES. ON DECEMBER 28TH DAVID DAVIS SENT AN EMAIL BACK TO HIM AND SAID, I CAN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF THIS. IT SHOWS 90 PAGES OF EXPENSES, AND ALL I AGREED TO WAS THOSE EXPENSES RELATED TO THE STRUCTURAL DEFECTS. THANK YOU. THEN. UH, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT UNTIL MID MARCH. IN ROUGHLY MID MARCH. THE OWNERS ARE THE TENANT OF THE PROPERTY, MADE AN APPOINTMENT WITH DAVID DAVIS AND MYSELF. AND I THINK IT WAS MARCH 27TH. THEY CAME IN WITH A SUMMARY. OF THAT 90 PAGES OF RECEIPTS IN THE FORM OF THE SPREADSHEET THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. TO THE COMMISSION TWICE. DAVID DAVIS WAS HANDLING THE MATTER. HE ULTIMATELY RE RETIRED. IN HIS TRANSITION TIME HE GAVE THE SPREADSHEET TO ME, WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTED NOTES. AND GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE TENANT. I MET WITH THEM IN END OF MID TO END OF APRIL EARLY MAY AND SAID, LOOK HERE'S MY THING. I DON'T HAVE DIRECTION ON THIS AT ALL, THE LEAST SAYS IT'S HAS IS. THERE'S NO ONE REIMBURSEMENT AT ALL. EXCEPT IT SEEMS FAIR THAT WE WOULD PAY YOU FOR THE STRUCTURAL STUFF BECAUSE

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BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION AT ALL. BUT I CAN'T OFFER 300 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAME FROM THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER. AND THEY SAID NO, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT NUMBER AND THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH ALL THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, AND THEY SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN MAY WITH ALL THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO TRY AND GO OVER THEIR PRESENTATION WITH THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. I THEN SCHEDULED THE MATTER FOR A JUNE 10TH HEARING IT D AND D. AND DURING THE DISCUSSION DELIBERATION, I POINTED OUT THAT IT WAS AN AS IS LEASE POINTED OUT THAT I FELT LIKE THE CITY SHOULD SHARING THE EXPENSE RELATED TO THE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND THE CITY COMMISSION. WANTED MORE INFORMATION AND ONE OF THE WHOLE SPREADSHEET. I WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET BUT DIDN'T LIMIT IT TO JUST THE STRUCTURAL INFORMATION. SO WE SAID OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE WHOLE THING. AND WE'RE GONNA LET THESE GUYS PUT THE PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT TIME SO THEY CAN ENTER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THEY WANT, BECAUSE THAT WAS A D AND D WE THEN SET IT FOR TONIGHT'S CR A MEETING. AND THEY CAME BACK WITH THEIR PRESENTATION. BUT AT NO TIME DID THE STAFF EVER INDICATE TO ANYBODY THAT IT WAS GOING TO VIOLATE A PROCUREMENT REGULATION . AT NO TIME DID THE STAFF EVER DEVIATE FROM THE TERMS OF THE LEASE AND EXPOSED THE CITY TO ANY LIABILITY WHATSOEVER? AS A RESULT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED FOR THE STAFF OR ANYBODY ELSE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, THEY DID IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF IT. IT WAS HANDLED APPROPRIATELY. IF THIS BUILDING WERE TO GET REMODELED, THERE WOULD BE A WRITTEN LEASE AND IT WOULD FOLLOW THE TERMS OF THAT LEASE. THE ONLY THING THAT THAT MADE THIS A ONE OFF WAS THAT IT WAS THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEM THAT DAVID SAID HE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN APPROPRIATELY BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT DECISION WAS AN EMERGENCY REPAIR THAT'S MENTIONED IN OUR CHARTER AND HAS OTHER REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT DAVID WOULDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXPAND OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY INDIVIDUALLY AND HE DIDN'T AUTHORIZE ANY MONEY. HE SAID. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS FOR YOU. THE CITY COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE THOSE NUMBERS. AND SO FROM A STANDPOINT OF GOD. WHAT HAPPENED? HMM NOTHING HAPPENED.

THE QUESTION IS PURELY THE DISCRETION OF THE SIERRA OR THE CITY COMMISSION, OR WHICHEVER IN BETWEEN THE COMMISSION WANTS TO FOLLOW ON THAT, AND THEY MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT. THEY'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, AND THERE'S A JUSTIFICATION FOR SHARING MORE WHICH THE CITY COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO. ALL SEVEN ITEMS BEFORE THE BURP. WE'RE ALL SHARING AND EXPENDITURES FOR PROPERTY. THE CITY DOESN'T EVEN OWN WE'LL SEE ARE A FUNDS AND GIVING OUT MONEY THAT IT THAT WAS TO ENHANCE THE C R A. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR THIS WAS CITY PROPERTY. SO IF THE CITY PAID THE MONEY TO REPLACE IT AT WELLS FARGO RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING. IF IT'S BEEN 100% OF THE MONEY, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE AND TOTALLY FINE. IT JUST WOULD BE THE WAY IT WAS APPROACHED. THE ONLY THING I FIND IRONIC ABOUT IT IS THAT THE PALMER DAR SKI ASKED FOR $1.5 MILLION BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED, RIGHT? AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT ENDED UP AT $1.5 MILLION. BUT I MAINTAIN.

THAT THE CITY DID. THE CITY STAFF HANDLED IT AND THERE'S NO NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. THANK

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]

LIVING HERE OVER 50 YEARS, I REALIZED THAT TODAY AND HAVING 24 YEARS OF MY OWN BUSINESS.

IT'S SELFISH POINT. HAVING BEEN A FOSTER PARENT FOR FIVE YEARS. AND HAVING SEVEN KIDS WITH KIDS OF SEVEN YEARS OUT IN INDIAN TOWN WITH KIDS CREW. I LOVE OUR NEXT GENERATION. TO ME. THEY'RE

[01:25:05]

AND WE HAVE GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. AS WE DID WHEN WE CHANGED THREE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND A NEW SUPERINTENDENT. THINGS ARE GETTING FIRMER HERE. WHEN WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT WE WANT. ANOTHER FOUNDATION IS MY INTEREST IN THE MAYFLOWER COMPACT AS YOU CAN SEE. I AM A DESCENDANT OF THE MAYFLOWER, WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH THE CONSTITUTION WHICH WE STAND ON WAS FOLLOWED. AND THAT IS SELF GOVERNMENT. AND THE SELF GOVERNMENT. YES HOW YOU GOT ELECTED. BY THE PEOPLE. FOR THE PEOPLE. YOU WERE PUT HERE BY GOD'S CHOICE THROUGH THE PEOPLE. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO TRY AND READ THE MAYFLOWER COMPACT. AND IT SAYS IN THE NAME OF GOD. WE WHOSE NAMES ARE UNDERWRITTEN THE LOYAL SUBJECTS OF OUR SOVEREIGN LORD. KING JAMES BY THE GRACE OF GOD OF GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE AND IRELAND. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IRELAND WAS INCLUDED. DEFENDER OF THE FAITH HAVING UNDERTAKEN FOR THE GLORY OF GOD AND THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. AND IN HONORING YOUR KING AND COUNTRY OF VOYAGE TO PLANT THE FIRST COLONY IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF VIRGINIA. THEY SAID. WE SOLEMNLY MUTUALLY IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD AND ONE ANOTHER COVENANT COMBINED OURSELVES TOGETHER INTO A SELF GOVERNMENT. AND FOR BETTER ORDERING AND PRESERVATION FURTHERANCE TO THE END. ENERGY JUST CONTINUES TO GO AND WE PROMISED ALL DUE SUBMISSION AND OBEDIENCE AND WITNESS YOUR OF ON THE 11TH DAY OF NOVEMBER. 16 20 THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING . WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FOUNDATION. OF FREE, DUMB AND THIS COUNTY. AND I JUST WANT TO BLESS YOU BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS. NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE YOU GUYS ARE DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS. YOU REALLY ARE. YOU'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO HOW TO MANAGE THE CITY AND THE GROWTH. YOU KNOW THE GROWTH IS AMAZING. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE. WE REALLY DO. AND YOU GUYS KNOW IT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE WORKING SO HARD. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BLESS YOU. THANKS TO BLESS YOU. AND IN ALL YOUR DECISIONS. LET ME FIND IT HERE. THE LORD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU MAY THE LORD MAKE HIS FACE SHINE UPON YOU. MAY THE LORD BE GRACIOUS TO YOU. AND GIVE YOU AND THE LORD LIFT UP HIS COUNTENANCE TO YOU. AND GIVE YOU PEACE AND WHAT YOU DO. OKAY? YOU GUYS ARE ROCK STARS. NOT AN EASY JOB. I DON'T WANT IT. THANK YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU? AND I WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOUNDATION FOR THE NEXT GENERATION IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE EXTENDING. THANK THANK YOU ANY OTHER PUBLIC CAMERA? MM. OH YEAH, I GUESS. HAVE ANOTHER CAR. I THOUGHT THIS WAS YOUR OLD CARD. I GOT SO MANY OF THEM. YOU LOSE THEM, YOU KNOW, MARK BREAKFAST TO EIGHT SOUTHEAST AS

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THEY EXPERIENCED THE SAME INFLATION THAT THE OTHER EMPLOYEES EXPERIENCED AND THEY DIDN'T GET REIMBURSED FOR IT. THE LAST WAGE INCREASE NOW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT INCREASES. AND I'M NOT SAYING BECAUSE WE HAD 9% INFLATION. WE SHOULD RAISE EVERYBODY PERMANENTLY FOR 9. BUT I THINK FOR AT LEAST A YEAR TO MAKE UP FOR THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF INCREASE TO COVER WHAT THEY DIDN'T GET. THE OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO GET THAT AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE DONE. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT THE RESOURCES TO DO IT. WE HAVE RESERVES THAT WE COULD TAP IF WE NEED TO. WE HAVE MONEY COMING IN FROM WHICH I KNOW NOBODY CAN TALK ABOUT AND WE CAN'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. BUT WE HAVE MONEY COMING IN FROM A LAWSUIT THAT WE'VE SETTLED. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT, BUT ONE TIME ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THOSE SAME LINES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN THE BUDGET. THAT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE THAT PAY UTILITIES HAVE PAID AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY. TO TAKE TO COVER. THESE EXPENSES HAVE BEEN INCURRED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS A RESULT OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID TO PROTECT US FROM BEING DEAD, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT'S A BIG NUMBER FOR FIXED INCOME PEOPLE COUPLED THAT WITH THEIR CAMP ASSESSMENTS , THEIR INSURANCE ASSESSMENTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS, AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO MENTION IS RELATIVE TO WHAT MR MARTEL SAID. AND HE'S RIGHT ON THE MONEY ON ON THIS ISSUE. WE HAVE A LEASE. WE START. WE START BREAKING PRECEDENTS ON LEASES. WE GOT A PROBLEM AND THAT LEASE IS A COMMERCIAL LEASE, AND THAT'S A STANDARD TRIPLE NET TYPE LEASE. WHERE WHERE THE TENANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE THINGS. NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A PLACE. WE CAN'T GIVE THEM A PLACE THAT CAN'T BE OCCUPIED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET A CERTIFICATE. ACCURACY SO THE BUILDINGS FALLING DOWN. I THINK WE HAVE PROBABLY HAVE SOME OBLIGATION TO FIX THAT. BUT BEYOND THAT, I MEAN, I'VE GOT A $21,000 DUMPSTER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S I HAD TO PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST PART OF BEING A TENANT OR HAVING A PROPERTY AND ON A COMMERCIAL LEASE, I THINK I'D HATE TO SEE A SPIN 56 $700 THERE WHEN WE WHEN WE GOT EMPLOYEES THAT REALLY COULD DESERVE A RACE ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. OKAY.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE IN FRONT OF PURPOSES. IN, UM. RESOLUTION 116-20. THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED A RESILIENCY PLAN IN THE YEAR 2020. THIS GRANT IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM. IT IS IN A AN ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANTED IT ONLY ALLOWS THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. UM, TO APPLY FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION GRANT FUNDS TO PAY OR ASSISTED IN. THE COST OF COMPLETING THE RESILIENCY STUDY AND ADAPTATION PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN 2020. UM THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL GRANT ANY MONEY. BUT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE RESOLUTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTED THE

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THERE'S A LOT OF BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INTERESTING. DIRECTION IN THAT RESILIENCY PLAYING AROUND MEASURING CARBON EMISSIONS IN THE CITY OF STEWART, CREATING A GREEN TASK FORCE. TO STEER THE COMMISSION ON WHAT WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS? WHAT IS EXACTLY IS BEING STUDIED. IS THERE? DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT PART OF THE RESILIENCY PLAN IS? IT'S STORMWATER, IS IT? UM WHAT I CONSIDER, YOU KNOW? MORE APPROPRIATE THINGS, OR ARE WE GETTING INTO MEASURING, UM. CARBON AND, UM, ADMISSIONS SO THAT WE CAN ULTIMATELY LIMIT LOCAL EMISSIONS. YOU KNOW? WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT IS THIS RESILIENCY STUDY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR MONEY FOR TO PERFORM , SO THE RESILIENCY STUDY WOULD BE UM. RELATED TO RESILIENCY, SO NOT SO MUCH. IT WOULDN'T BE A STUDY OF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE INTERNAL STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY NEXT DOOR. HOWEVER, THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY NEXT DOOR MIGHT BE A SUBJECT OF THE INSTRUCTOR OF THE STUDY, BECAUSE IT'S A CRITICAL ASSET THAT'S ON THE WATER AND THEREFORE IT THE STUDY MIGHT EVALUATE. THE EXPOSURE OF THAT BUILDING, AS IT WOULD BE RELATED TO POTENTIALLY THE WATER, WATER RISING AND FLOODING OR HURRICANE EFFECTS AND DAMAGES AND WHAT THE WHAT THE BOARDWALK AND THIS RELATES TO OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND SPECIFIC TO OUR ASSETS AS A CITY CRITICAL ASSETS . THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. OKAY SINCE RIGHT AND WHAT RISKS THERE MIGHT BE SO THAT WE CAN HELP. RIGHT DR POLICY AND HMM. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY LOOK AT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY OWNS. AND OPERATES AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO THAT, AND THE REALITY OF IT IS ANY OF THESE STUDIES OR ANY OF THESE PLANS CAN BE AS VAGUE OR AS IN DEPTH AS YOU WANT IT TO BE. THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS THERE'S THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION IS FOR THE FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE THE STUDY. SO INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IN THE BUDGET, LET'S PUT 100,000 BUCKS IN A STUDY THIS YEAR. WE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T WE APPLY FOR SOME GRANT MONEY? SEE IF WE CAN GET THE GRANT MONEY.

AND THEN IF WE GET GRANTED THAT GRANT MONEY THAT WILL SET THE PARAMETERS OF HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON THE STUDY. AND THIS IS ALSO ALLOWING AMENDMENTS TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT. I GUESS THAT'S JUST GIVING JACKIE THE ABILITY TO AMEND IT AS SHE GOES. JUST THIS IS JUST THE AMOUNT OR THE GRANT APPLICATION. THIS THIS. AGENDA ITEM DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL STUDY OR THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION ADOPTED IN 2020. IT'S JUST HAVING OUR GRANTS PERSON REQUEST MONEY TO PAY FOR. STUDY THAT WAS ADOPTED EARLIER. OKAY? PROVE IT, THOUGH, IF AWARDED YEAH, WE CAN EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IF AGREEMENT IS AWARDED TO ACCEPT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THIS ACTION DOES.

HAS NOTHING TO DO. ULTIMATELY WITH WHAT THE RESULT OF THE STUDY. WE'RE FINDING THAT WILL COME BACK TO THAT. WE BETTER HURRY UP BECAUSE IT'S GOT, LIKE TWO DAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE IN.

WE'RE AWARE OF IT. JACKIE MAY'S DEALING WITH EMOTION. SURE. OKAY? SECOND WE HAVE EMOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR BRUNER ANY PUBLIC COMMENT DID YOU CALL THE ROLE? I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU. BRUNER. YES COMMISSIONER CLARK WAS QUIETER COMMISSIONER RITT COMMISSIONER CLUB. OKAY COMMISSIONER RICH YES , COMMISSIONER COLLINS MCDONALD'S. DID YOU CALL ME? I THOUGHT I DID. OH I HEARD MR CARTER, WE WERE TALKING. THAT WAS A RICH. OKAY COMMISSIONER CLARK, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE. THANK YOU. OKAY OKAY. ITEM 10 THAT THE MOTION TO

[10. ADOPT A MOTION TO APPROVE A CITY ATTORNEY INTERVIEW SCHEDULE AND SELECT ATTORNEYS TO BE INTERVIEWED]

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THAT YOU KNOW, AND AT LEAST ONE CASE OF LITIGATION EXPERIENCE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. UM AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THAT EMAIL FROM RYAN DON'T HAVE ANY HISTORY OF AN ILLEGAL OR FINANCIAL ISSUES. UM AND I DON'T OUT OF RESPECT. I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THAT AND A LOT OF DETAIL. UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO UNPACK THAT.

BUT BECAUSE I DO WANT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL AND RESPECTFUL. BUT I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

CONSIDERING THE PAST, RIGHT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAVE SHOEHORNED A CANDIDATE AND NOT NECESSARILY ON MERIT AND NOT NECESSARILY ON MEETING THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT MAYBE WHO THEY KNEW, OR THAT THEY HAD PEOPLE BACKING THEM LOCALLY. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. I MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE MOST, IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I DO, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DECISION. WHO WE PICK IS BASED ON MERIT AND NOT BY ITS BASED ON QUALIFICATION, NOT JUST TO, YOU KNOW. AND, UM.

BECAUSE LAST TIME IT COST THE CITY I DON'T KNOW $700,000. TO CLEAN IT UP. WHICH COSTS THE CITY. HIRING YOU WANT. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO IT? WHO WHO? WHAT? WHO CAUSED YOU TO CLEAN UP THE MANAGER'S MANAGER, WATER COST PEOPLE WHEN HE DID THE EARLY RETIREMENT THING OR WHATEVER, LIKE HE IMPLEMENTED THAT, AND THE DIRECTORS RETIRED , WAS A $600,000 EXPENDITURE RELATED TO THE EARLY RETIREMENT. OF WHO IS IMPLEMENTED THE EARLY RETIREMENT PROGRAM IN SAM ANDERSON, TERRY O. NEILL FIRE CHIEF AND THE COMMISSION APPROVED IT RIGHT, BUT IT'S SHOEHORNING IN, BASED ON WHO WHO , WHO NEVER SUED. NOT NECESSARILY JUST HOW SOMEBODY IS FIT FOR THE JOB, SO I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE KEEP IT TO THE THREE CANDIDATES THAT I FEEL LIKE OUR QUALIFIED BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM HR FROM STAFF FROM THE HOMEWORK THAT THEY DID. AND A MAN WHAT THAT WORKING GROUP ULTIMATELY CAME UP WITH WITH FOUR TO ME. THREE MAKES SENSE. ANYWAY, YOU GOT YOUR TOP THREE TO PICK FROM AND GO THROUGH. BUT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE NECESSARY. RON, MR BAGGETT AND MISS PANDA RITA'S FOR CONSIDERATION. I THINK WITHIN THAT GROUP, WE GOT PLENTY OF DIVERSITY TO HASH OUT AND COME. TO CONCLUSION FOR WHO WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE CITY AND WITHIN, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE. WE GOT A LOCAL WHO GREW UP HERE LIVES IN PALM CITY. IS CURRENTLY AN ATTORNEY FOR THE COUNTY, A SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS LITIGATION EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE. I'M SURE YOU COULD TELL WHO I LIKE ALREADY, BUT HAS WORKED WITH AND WAS MENTORED BY MR MARTEL. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE MISSING OUT ON ON HAVING SOMEBODY. THAT'S A LOCAL. REP. BUT THAT WAS THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO TO THE TOP THREE WITH THOSE THREE I MENTIONED VERSUS FOUR. AND IF YOU HAD A DIFFERENT AND YOU WERE IN THAT ROOM, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I'M GONNA GO WITH WANT TO GO WITH THE FOUR. THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE, UH, CAME UP WITH. AND I'M GOING INTO WHY HE WOULD SAY . WELL I'M GONNA SAY THE COMMITTEE WE LOOKED AT. WE LOOKED AT LOCAL CONNECTIONS. WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES. WE DISCUSSED. IN FACT, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH ALL ISSUES.

UM, ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT HAD MORE MUNICIPAL EXPERIENCE, BUT THERE

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AND I'VE LEARNED NOW THAT THE MIRROR SAID EARLIER THAT HE'S NOT PHYSICALLY GOING TO BE HERE . HE WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN HEAVEN. I'M GONNA BE PARTICIPATING WITH THE INTERVIEWS BY ZOOM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN. AND SO I'M ASKING THAT WE DEFER THE DECISION UNTIL THE 11TH ABSOLUTELY WON'T BE HERE ON SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH. NO, I'LL BE I'LL I WILL. AH! UH VICE MAYOR BRUNA OR RUN THE MEETING, AND THEN ONCE THE AND I WILL HAVE A ZOOM ROOM SET UP WITH ZOOM WHERE I WILL INTERVIEW THE CANDIDATES BY ZOOM, UM, FROM WHERE I'M AT, SO YOU CAN DO IT ON SEPTEMBER, THE SIXTH IF WE AGREED TO DO IT ALL ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER, THE SIX WEDNESDAY THE SIXTH. I THINK I HAVE A GOD. I DON'T KNOW. CUSTOM LEGAL, MAKE ANY EITHER DAYS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. I COULD DO THE AFTERNOON OF THE SIXTH ABOUT THE WHOLE DAY, SAYING THEY CAN DO IT. WELL WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. YOU CAN DO IT. YES. THURSDAY MORNING OR NO.

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THAT'S A MOTION? YES, SIR. MOTION. DO WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND? OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS, UM FOR A MEETING AND STARTING AT NINE AM AND WHAT SEPTEMBER 7TH ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AND HE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT STAFF WILL PREPARE. WE'VE GOT A LIST OF QUESTIONS. THAT WILL JUST GIVE YOU AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM. USE THEM. DON'T USE THEM, AND YOU HAVE PROBABLY HAVE SOME GUIDELINES. AND JUST FROM AN HR PERSPECTIVE THAT WE CAN'T ASK TO HAVE A SCORING SYSTEM OLD ARE, YOU KNOW NUMBER, NO SCORING NUMBERS, NO RANKING. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PICK ONE PERSON WROTE ON THEM UNTIL YOU HAVE OKAY. I WOULD ASK THAT WHEN IT COMES FROM THE VOTE THAT WE ARE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT VERSUS YOU KNOW THE WRITING IT DOWN AND TURNING IT INTO. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO ALL VOCALIZED AND BE, YOU KNOW CLEAR ABOUT OUR DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS FOR WHO AND WHY. VERSUS LIKE A CR, REMEMBER? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ON THE RECORD. IT'S ON THE RECORD AND WE DON'T NEED TO BRING OUT PEOPLE'S DIRTY LAUNDRY . WE CAN JUST SAY THAT WE'VE SEEN SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW. IT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEARLY ARTICULATED SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING IN WHY I THINK THIS IS AGAIN OUR MOST IMPORTANT HIGHER. THE ONE WE MADE. I THINK MR

[11. RELOCATION OF CITY GARAGE SITE AND SANITATION REVENUE SUFFICIENCY STUDY (RC): RESOLUTION No. 80-2023; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE 8/28/2023 CCM CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE RELOCATION OF THE CITY GARAGE SITE AND THE SANITATION REVENUE SUFFICIENCY STUDY, PREPARED AND SUBMITTED BY RAFTELIS DATED SEPTEMBER 14, 2022. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

NOR IS IT AN OFFICIAL ACTION. WHAT IT IS, IS A REVISITING IF YOU RECALL LAST FALL WHEN THE UM , SANITATION AND WATER. RATE STUDIES CAME IN. YOU WERE PRESENTED AND THERE THE SLIDES ARE ATTACHED IN THE AGENDA ITEM . BUT YOU WERE YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH TWO RATE STUDIES . ONE RATE STUDY WAS TO KEEP THE GARAGE AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION FOR SANITARY RATES. THE OTHER RATES STUDY WAS AH! INCLUDED RELOCATING THE GARAGE TO THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY. AND IT WAS EXAMPLE SITE PLANS AND ANTICIPATION OF SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER. ALL OF THE RATE STUDIES. WE'RE. FOR NORMAL OPERATIONAL EXPENSES RELATED TO SANITATION. AND AT THE END OF THE HIGHER RATE STUDY. THE CITY'S RATE WAS STILL GOING TO BE $5 PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH LOWER THAN THE COUNTY'S RATE. SO IT IS A VERY COMPETITIVE SANITATION, RIGHT? HOWEVER WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME UP LAST TIME. IT WAS THE CITY MANAGER HAD BEEN DISCUSSING WITH, UM, A AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENTITY. THE IDEA OF POSSIBLY UM , GIVING THE SITE TO THEM AT NO

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SAVINGS TO SAY THAT PICKING THE FIRST SIGHT SAVED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COSTS BECAUSE IF YOU PICKED THE FIRST ONE OF KEEPING THE GARAGE WHERE IT WAS LOCATED . YOU WERE GOING TO BE EXPENDING FUNDS TO END UP WITH EXACTLY THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU HAVE NOW WITH NO CHANGE AND THE WATER TREATMENT SITE WAS GOING TO REMAIN UNPAVED, UNIMPROVED AND IN NEED OF REPAIR. I ANTICIPATE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHICH SITE YOU CHOOSE THAT IF THE GRADUATES STAYS WHERE IT IS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. WE WILL STILL RESULT IN PROGRAMMING, THE PAVING OF THE PARKING LOTS AND STORM WATER AND OTHER THINGS THAT THE UM, WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WOULD AGAIN ADD ALL THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT AND TRYING TO PUT EVERYBODY IN BUILDINGS. ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WAS THAT IN RELOCATING IT WAS GOING TO PUT EVERYBODY ON ONE CAMPUS AND THERE WAS A 2800 SQUARE FOOT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BEING BUILT KIND OF ON PALM BEACH ROAD ON THE SITE OF THE CITY OWNED AS PROPERTY. THAT WAS GONNA HAVE SEVEN OFFICES IN IT. AND. WHILE IT'S FINE. THE KEEPING THE GARAGE SAID AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION DIDN'T INCLUDE THOSE OFFICES AND, AS A RESULT WOULD RESULT IN A I'M ASSUMING MOVING THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO THE WELLS FARGO SITE, WHICH UNDER MY PERSPECTIVE HMM. DID MORE TO AFFECT THE CAMPUS NATURE OF IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS OR ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING HIS STAFF WAS THAT IT PUT EVERYBODY ON ONE CAMPUS. IT MADE IT SORT OF THE DIRECTORS AND SUPERVISORS WERE ON THE SAME CAMPUS WERE PRESENT FOR THE AH! YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR WITH THE EMPLOYEES TO BE THERE, AND WHEN ISSUES AROSE. LASTLY, FOLLOWING THE AH, UM PROGRAMMING. YOU WANT. THE CITY COMMISSION ULTIMATELY ADOPTED A CODE. AH! THAT ESSENTIALLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR REPAIR. IN THAT AREA. AND THIS IMPROVEMENT WOULD IN FACT INCLUDE OUTDOOR REPAIR.

WHICH WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED. NOT THAT THINGS AREN'T INCONSISTENT WITH CODE THAT'S ADAPTED. WE DEVIATE FROM CODE AT EVERY PUBLIC MEETING WHERE SOMEBODY COMES IN AND DOES A P D. BUT UM AND THERE WAS NOTHING DEVIATING TO THE VIOLATING THE COMP PLAN BY ANY MEANS. IT WAS JUST FROM THE DIRECTION OF UM THE CITY MANAGER. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION I WANTED TO, UM, KEEP THE GARAGE WHERE IT WAS, AND THAT WAS THE DELIBERATE DECISION FOR IT. AND IN THE ALTERNATIVE. WHAT WHAT I BROUGHT FORWARD IS THIS RESOLUTION 80 2023 THAT IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO REVISIT THE ISSUE THEN I CAN BRING IT BACK FOR A AGENDA ITEM WITH THE RATE ADOPTION STUDY THAT WOULD BE COMING BACK ON SEPTEMBER 11TH ANYWAY. FOR YOU TO ADOPT THIS YEAR'S RATE ANYWAY , BUT WE COULD BRING IT BACK FULL PRESENTATION AND DO IT IF YOU'RE NOT INCLINED TO DO IT, AND YOU JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. THAT'S FINE, TOO.

I JUST WANTED TO BE MORE DELIBERATE AND MORE. PRESENTED AS LOOK, YOU KNOW, STAFF KIND OF FEELS IT'S BETTER TO MOVE TO THE UM THE PALM BEACH ROADSIDE. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO ONE LAST THING. NOT THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE, BUT THERE WAS ALSO A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS COME FOR SALE NEXT TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT. AND IF WE'RE NOT MOVING OVER THERE, THE LAND THAT WE BOUGHT ALREADY WON'T BE NEEDED. SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO EVEN DISCUSS THAT OR PURSUE THAT PROPERTY. IF, IN FACT THERE'S AN INCLINATION TO MOVE THERE THEN I COULD PROTECT POSSIBLY LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT OTHER PARCEL PROPERTY. UM WELL, JUST ONE SECOND, MR CLARKE. LET'S SAY AS YOU KNOW, MIKE, I'VE BEEN NOT INCLINED, UM , TO CONSIDER THIS BUT UM. YOU KNOW, WE DID HIRE YOU AS OUR

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AND SO THIS THIS YEAR WOULD BE 44 CENTS. UM AND I BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS KIND OF LIKE MIKE TO BRING UP HER PRESENTATION. BACK CONCERN IS JUST WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT GARAGE PROPERTY ONCE THAT'S CLEARED OFF BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S WHERE WE ALL ARE COMING FROM SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLES ABOUT WHAT THAT SHOULD BE TURNED INTO, AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE TO MAKE IT APARTMENTS SO MUST. THERE WAS SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT PROPERTY.

IT'S GOING TO BE GREEN SPACE. AND IRONICALLY, PART OF MY REASON FOR BRINGING IT BACK MUCH IS THAT TWO ACRES, THREE ACRES, THREE ACRES BUT WAS TO AVOID THE COMMINGLING OF THE USE. I DON'T WANT THE DECISION ON THE SANITATION RATES AND THE END WHERE THE SANITATION CAMPUS TO BE LOCATED TO BE STRICTLY AS A MEANS TO AVOID VOTING NO ON A PROJECT TO ME. THE TWO ARE NOT RELATED. IT SHOULD BE WHAT IS THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE SANITATION RATES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT BACK.

COULD YOU BRING? DON'T WANT IT TO BE YEAH. THE BETTER DECISION IS TO PUT IT OVER HERE ON 10TH STREET IN PALM BEACH ROAD, BUT WE'RE GONNA VOTE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT'S AT TO AVOID HAVING TO MAKE ANOTHER DECISION SOMEWHERE ELSE. AGREE WITH THAT. COMMISSIONER CLARK. WHATEVER WE DO WANT US TO CONSIDER. I'VE HEARD THAT IT HAS BEEN SAID HERE IN THE COMMISSION ROOM BEFORE ABOUT THE LITTLE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING AND GEORGIA AVENUE THAT THAT WAS BUILT BY STUDENTS IN SOME WORKSHOP. BACK IN BEFORE THE SEVENTIES OR SOMETHING AROUND THAT TIME, AND IF YOU WILL BE CONSIDERED A HISTORIC BUILDING OR NOT, BUT IF WE EVER TAKE DOWN THOSE BUILDINGS AND WE MOVE AWAY IF WE COULD SORT THE WHOLE THING OVER AND KEEP IT AS GREEN SPACE AND COORDINATED WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE UNTIL WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING LATER IF WE NEED TO AT LEAST KEEP THAT LITTLE BUILDING IF IT CAN BE SALVAGED AND MAINTAINED AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO AND KEEP IT AS A LITTLE PUBLIC SERVICE, UM, BUILDING THAT WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO THAT WAS LIKE THE FIRST MAINTENANCE OFFICE. UM. IN THAT LOCATION, AND IT HAS SOME HISTORIC VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY . I KNOW IT HAS TO START RELATIVE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE EAST STEWART COMMUNITY GOTTEN TORN DOWN UNDER THE REDO OF THE GARAGE. WONDER IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE GARAGE AND KEEP THE GARAGE? THEY'RE JUST ASKING. IT'S A LITTLE TEENY BUILDING ACTUALLY EASY REQUEST AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A GENTLEMAN IN TOWN. SOME OF US HEARD OF HIM, AND HIS NAME IS JIMMY SMITH, WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN THAT OFFICE AND FEELS THAT

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CASTELLANOS YES, IS THAT IS THAT 14TH STREET PROTEIN STREET? SOME 400 K. OVER THERE? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WE NEED TO CHECK IT OUT AND SELL IT BACK TO US. I WANT THIS UP AND I AGREE WITH I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAVE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB COMING IN AND ALL THAT GREEN SPACE AND IT'S ALL SCHOOL AREA, SAVING THAT LITTLE ROOM OR THAT LITTLE BUILDING. THANK YOU WITH THAT BEING STARTED IF I COULD GET A MOOSE EMOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION THAT WAY , I'LL BRING IT BACK ON SEPTEMBER, 11TH FOR EIGHT. FULL PLAN WITH THE DIRECTION OF RELOCATION TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. COULD YOU READ THE RESOLUTION? OF COURSE. WAS THAT FIND IT. HAVE A GREAT I GOT HER. NO, I GOT IT. I JUST GOT TO GET BACK UP. IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 80-2023 RESOLUTIONS, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA RELATING TO THE REALIZATION OF THE CITY GARAGE SITE AND THE SANITATION REVENUE SUFFICIENCY. STUDY PREPARED AND SUBMITTED BY RAFT TO LIST DATED SEPTEMBER 2020 22 OR. I'M SORRY . SEPTEMBER 14TH 2022 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR THE PURPOSES OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? EMOTIONAL MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER $80 2022 WAS RED AND I HAVE A QUESTION. LET'S GET SECOND AND I'LL ASK MY QUESTION THAT THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THIS IS SEPTEMBER 14 2022, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S A RATE STUDY. IS THAT OKAY? AND IS THAT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THAT IS THE RATE STUDY. YEAH LET'S SAY A YEAR AGO , THE NEW YEAR STUDY WAS. IT WAS A FIVE YEAR STUDY AT FIVE YEARS WITH A RATE PLANS IN IT, SO WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW AND LET OUR PUBLIC NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION. ENOUGH HEARING THAT MARRIAGE COLORADO COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES MAYOR BRUNER. YES, COMMISSIONER RICH?

[12. US-1/FEDERAL HIGHWAY STREET TREE MASTER PLAN/PROGRAM AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2520-2023; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING AND RESTATING THE CITY’S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; MORE SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION 2.04.06 ENTITLED “SUPPLEMENTAL BUILDING SETBACKS ON CERTAIN STREETS” IN CHAPTER II AND SECTION 3.01.03 ENTITLED “URBAN STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS FOR DESIGNATED URBAN SUBDISTRICTS” IN CHAPTER III; AMENDING SECTION 11.01.03 ENTITLED “MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION” IN CHAPTER XI; AND CHAPTER XII DEFINITIONS OF THE CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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I MENTIONED OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. SO WE PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE BEEN PLANTING TREES IN THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME. ERIN GAUGED IN THE HEALTH AND THE WELL BEING OF TREES IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BUSINESSES WITHIN BUSINESS GROUPS WITHIN THE CITY HAVE ALSO BEEN COLLABORATING WITH STAFF. WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INPUT FROM CITY ATTORNEY AND MANAGER AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF. UM NETWORK

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REASONS CHANGE. ADD TREES. UM YOU KNOW, IT'S SEEMS OBVIOUS TO SOME OF US, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME, YOU KNOW ARGUMENTS OUT THERE FOR NOT HAVING TREES. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT, THOUGH, WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON ON THREE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT REASONS TO ADD TREES TO THIS AREA. ONE BEING THE VISUAL IMPACT THIS SLIDE SHOWS UP BEFORE AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME STREET. THE SAME CONDITIONS , THE SAME COMPOSITION OF SIDEWALK AND ON STREET PARKING.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IMAGES IS THE TREES, AND THIS VISUAL IMPACT IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING AT A STUDY AREA THAT'S PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL CORD OR THE MORE TIME PEOPLE SPEND IN AN AREA. THE MORE MONEY THEY BUSINESSES CAN, UH MORE SALES THAT'S CONNECTED TO SALES. THERE WE GO. WORDS ARE COMING NOW. UM SO WE WANTED TO AGAIN IMPROVE THIS AREA AND THAT WAS SUPPORTED IN THE SURVEY THAT WE DID FOR THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY MASTER PLAN THAT THE BIGGEST DISADVANTAGE IN THIS AREA IS THE APPEARANCE AND THAT IT HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON THE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS CORRIDOR. UM WE TOUCHED UPON AL GHANI SAAB HAS ALREADY INTRODUCED US TO THE IDEA ABOUT IMPROVING THE SAFETY OF THIS AREA. UM, TREES, CALM PEOPLE, THEY REDUCE SPEEDS. IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING THAT. WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CLEAR ZONE. UM THEY CAN HELP IMPROVE THIS BEHAVIOR OF DRIVERS . UM THE OTHER ITEM IS HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. HEAT ISLAND EFFECT IS A FANCY WAY OF SAYING IT'S HOT IN THE SUN AND ITS COLDER IT'S COOLER IN THE SHADE.

THAT'S THAT'S PLANNING. SPEAK FOR THAT PHENOMENON, AND IT'S NO WONDER THAT THIS AREA IS GETTING IMPACTED BY THE EFFECT ABOUT A PLETHORA OF ASPHALT. YOU CAN MEASURE SURFACE TEMPERATURES FROM SPACE FOR THIS AREA, AND, UM, IT'S REFLECTED IN THE IN THE TREE CANOPY GAP. SO IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS, THOSE GOALS WE DEVELOPED A MASTER PLAN WE STILL ELECTED SPECIES TO IMPLEMENT THAT MASTER PLAN. WE ALSO WANTED TO BE REALLY REALISTIC AND BASED UPON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM AND LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, WE REALIZED THAT THIS REALLY HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, ONE OF WHICH IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE WAS THE FIRST READING OF THAT TODAY. AND THEN YOU'RE GETTING A PREVIEW OF WHAT THE SIERRA PROGRAM WOULD BE. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE MASTER PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT IDENTIFIES WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURES WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE. UM THE SIDEWALK CONFIGURATION AND IN PIVOTAL SPOTS YOU'LL SEE IN THIS THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE. HOW MANY THOSE BLACK DOTS ARE ALL OBSTRUCTIONS WITHIN THE SIDEWALK WHILE ALSO CONSIDERING HOW WE GET MORE SHADE TREES OR, IN SOME CASES, PALM TREES BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED SOIL VOLUME AVAILABLE TO US. ONE OF THE LIMITATIONS TO WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TREES IN THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS. IS THAT EXISTING OVERHEAD UTILITY REALLY LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO PUT, UM SHADE TREES AND SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING FOR THE HEIGHT OF PALM AND A SMALLER SCALE NATIVE PLANT.

MATERIAL THERE. WE ALSO AGAIN LOOKING AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY RECOMMENDING SOME INFO PLANTINGS WITHIN THE EXISTING MEDIAN AS WELL. THERE'S EXISTING TREES THAT WE AND REMAIN IN THOSE MEDIANS. BUT WE CAN ADD TO THOSE , UM IN ANOTHER AREA, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT WITH THE TREE SPECIES. OUR NUMBER. ONE RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH THE LIVE OAK. THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON OUR SHADE TREES. UM AND THERE'S ALREADY SOME OF THOSE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR. WE REALLY WANTED TO ASK WITH ANY OF THE TREATY RECOMMENDATIONS FIRST . IS IT ALREADY ON THE CORRIDOR ? WELL FIRST, IS IT FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND THEN SECOND? IS IT ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF STEWART? AND IS IT ALREADY ON THE CORRIDOR? IF YOU'VE GOT IT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S ALREADY ON THAT CORRIDOR, OR IT'S ALREADY PART OF THE CITY OF STEWART'S PLANTING MAKEUP. UP. THAT WAS THAT WAS NOT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE, UM, PLACE MAKING IMPACT IF WE CAN BUILD UPON SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT PLANT MATERIALS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. SO ALONG THE MENTIONED UNDER THE UTILITY LINES, THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG HINDRANCES TO GETTING THE LARGER SHADE TREES IN THIS AREA WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN FILLING THOSE PLACES WITH THE PIGEON PLUM AND THE SILVER BUTTONWOOD. UM, WHERE WE ARE REALLY CONSTRICTED ON SOIL VOLUMES, WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE HEALTHY TREES THAT DON'T PULL UP THE SIDEWALKS AND WHERE WE HAVE SOME EXISTING USERS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE VERY

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THIS IS A PALM THAT IF A CAR HITS IT THE CAR WOULD WIN AND THE PALM WOULD LOSE AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PLANT THOSE WHEN THE MEDIAN GETS VERY, VERY NARROVEW. F D O T WON'T LET YOU PLANT ANYTHING AGAIN FOR THE CLEAR ZONE OF SAFETY. UM ANYTHING REALLY LARGER THAN THAT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST TO ADJUST THOSE NARROW SPOTS OF THE MEDIAN. TODAY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE FIRST READING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THERE ARE THESE ARE THREE GOALS WORK IN THREES. SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO TOUCH UPON IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS THE PROVIDED IMPROVED DEFINITIONS. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE STANDARDS FOR THE APPLICANTS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOW A TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS AND INSTEAD TALKING ABOUT WHERE REDEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR, WHERE THERE'S NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT OR SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND WE EMBEDDED INTO THAT, UM, THE SUPPLEMENTAL STANDARDS FOR SETBACKS ON CERTAIN STREETS AND INSIDE THE URBAN HIGHWAY DESIGNATION AND THEN VERY IMPORTANTLY, WE NEEDED TO ESTABLISH SOME PROCEDURES ON HOW THIS WOULD HAVE THIS IMPLEMENTATION COULD HAPPEN FOR BOTH EXISTING PROPERTIES AND NEW PROPERTIES. UM THIS IS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE, UH, THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUILDING SETBACKS AGAIN. WE ALREADY HAD THIS SECTION OF THE CODE. THAT SAID, HEY, THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT ARE DIFFERENT, AND WE NEED SOME SUPPLEMENTAL. WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL SETBACKS. THIS SEGMENT OF U. S. ONE IS ONE OF THOSE AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING SO RIGHT NOW. THAT SEGMENT RUNS FROM THE THIRD STREET HERE, OCEAN. I'M SORRY OCEAN THAT'S THIRD OCEAN DOWN TO THE EDGE OF CITY LIMITS. I'M GOING TO BOUNCE BACK. WE'RE GONNA SLICE THAT UP NOW IN OUR IN THE CODE. WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS SLICING THAT UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS, SO I'M GOING TO GO.

FORWARD AND THEN BACKWARDS. THE MEAT OF WHAT THE CODE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IS TO PROVIDE, UM THAT 10 FT. MINIMUM SHARED. USE SIDEWALK OR A AND A SHADE TREE SPACE WITHIN THAT FRONT SETBACK. UM SO THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS LANGUAGE DESCRIBES SHORT. IT'S MEETING THE SAME STANDARD OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE SO THAT WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S THE EXPECTATION . WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A SIERRA PROGRAM THAT'S ENCOURAGING THESE WIDER SIDEWALKS AND SHADE TREES AND THEN NOT HOLD NEW APPLICANTS TO THE SAME STANDARDS. SO THIS IS ABOUT A PRACTICE PROTECTING THAT CITY INVESTMENT. THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW THAT CAN BE DONE CAN BE DONE, AND THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE CODE ON HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED. WHETHER OR NOT UM THE SIDEWALK IS UP AGAINST THE CURB OR IT'S SOMETHING. LANDSCAPING IS AGAINST THE CURB. UM THESE ARE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT MAYBE, AND IT'S CONTEXTUAL TO THOSE. THE OTHER ELEMENT THAT WE WANTED TO TOUCH UPON WAS THE URBAN HIGHWAY ZONING DESIGNATION . SO THIS IS OUR ZONING DESIGNATION THAT IS UP AGAINST DOWNTOWN, AND IT'S WITHIN THE C R A NORTH OF THE BRIDGE AS WELL . RIGHT NOW IT REQUIRES THAT BUILDINGS BE 15 TO 20 FT FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. THE INTENTION WITH THAT IS TO BRING THE PARKING IN THE REAR AND TO DEFINE THE ROADWAY WITH A BUILDING. WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED PRACTICE FOR THOSE AREAS, BUT WE WANTED TO BUILD IN A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WILL STILL REQUIRING THAT PARKING TO BE IN THE REAR. UM, AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU MIGHT WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS IT BUILT TO ZONE OF 15 TO 20 FT FOR PORTIONS OF THE URBAN HIGHWAY ZONING

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I THINK NOW WE'VE HIT IN TWO DIFFERENT TELL HIM THAT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. I DON'T LIKE INCENTIVIZING WITH DENSITY OR PARKING. SO I LOVE THIS, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT LANGUAGE IS SLIGHTLY CHANGED UP A LITTLE BIT TO REMOVE THAT 10% OUT OF IT AND JUST KEEP IT TO FIFTIES TREES, KNOCK OUT SOME OF YOUR PARKING THEN WE WILL GIVE YOU THE CREDIT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW? IT'S VIOLENT CONCERNED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND EVERY PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEN UNDER FEDERAL MCDONALD. BRUNER YES, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE MOVING THAT FAST. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO AMEND THAT NOTION TO KNOW. WE SELL THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER RICH YES. COLLINS. NO. COMMISSIONER CLARK . YES BRUNER. YES. MCDONALD'S YES. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM 15, MAYBE CHAPTER 22 OF THE

[13. AMENDING CHAPTER 22, FIRE PREVENTION, OF CODE OF ORDINANCES, ADDING A NEW SECTION (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2522-2023; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART AMENDING CHAPTER 22; FIRE PREVENTION; OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES; ADDING A NEW SECTION 22-63; TO REQUIRE ELECTRONIC REPORTING OF ALL FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM INSPECTION REPORTS; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND A CONFLICTS CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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RIGHT. THAT VENDOR NOW IS SUPPOSED TO OBVIOUSLY DO A REPORT. THAT'S NOT YOU GUYS. YOU HAVE A THIRD PARTY BECOME EVERY RIGHT EVERYWHERE IN THE STATE IS REALLY THE COUNTRY. IT'S LIKE THAT SO ANY ANY PROTECTION SYSTEM IS DONE BY A VENDOR. THE WHAT FIRE INSPECTORS DO OUR LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS GOT TO VERIFY THAT THE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN INSPECTED. SO WHEN A VENDOR COMES IN AND INSPECT THE FIRE ALARM OR SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THEY HAVE A REPORT. AND THERE'S A YOU KNOW NUMEROUS MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE, WHICH IS WHERE WE GOT IT FROM? YES AND IT'S REQUIRING THE VENDOR TO UPLOAD THE REPORT. TO A THIRD PARTY. COMPANY THAT. PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY USES AN ELECTRONIC DATABASE ACCESS IT QUICKER. AND IT ALSO UNIFORMS THE VENDOR DOWN TO GET A PIECE OF PAPER. SO IT SPEEDS UP AND ALLOWS OUR INSPECTORS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH WITH A BUSINESS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS DOES BUSINESS OWNER IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK WITH THE STATE? FOR INSTANCE, THOUGH, NOT FROM THIS, NOT FROM THE STATE LOCAL. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE, IS IT? THIS IS REPRESENT THE FIRE CODE.

STATE STATE LAW, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE. THE STATE REQUIRES THE VENDOR INSPECTIONS . THE STATE REQUIRES THE REPORTING. WE JUST WANT A UNIFORM IT TO BE THIS METHOD OF REPORTING AND YOU DON'T GET TO JUST SEND IN A PIECE OF PAPER BY MAIL TO US TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, IT HAS TO BE UPLOADED ELECTRONICALLY TO THIS METHOD, SO THAT OUR INVENTORY SOMEBODY COULD GO LOOK IMMEDIATELY AND SEE IF IT'S THERE. CORRECT AND THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THE VENDORS.

WOULDN'T EVEN THEY WOULDN'T EVEN FILE IT. YOU KNOW, PAPER WISE. SO THE WAY THE WAY IT WOULD WORK. IN A NUTSHELL. IS THE VENDORS GENERALLY CHARGE A NOMINAL FEE TO THE CUSTOMER. FOR THAT SERVICE, WHICH IS UPLOADED TO THE THIRD PARTY. VENDOR THAT KIND OF LIKE IS THE REPOSITORY FOR ALL OF THE INFO. AND THEN EACH JURISDICTION GETS NOTIFIED OF INSPECTIONS AND IT'S I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR FOREVER, BUT A LOT OF A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE IT SAYS IF YOU DO INSPECTIONS IN STUART AS A VENDOR, WE REQUIRE YOU TO UPLOAD IT ELECTRONICALLY SO OUR INSPECTORS CAN ENSURE COMPLIANCE. QUICKER AND WE LIKE OUR I S 01 RATING. YEAH WE WANT TO KEEP IT. I SAW SOME FIRE HYDRANTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE LITTLE STICKER BRAND NEW. OKAY, WHERE THEY'RE AT LATER. ALRIGHT GOOD. YEAH, YEAH. UH ANYWAY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? GO AHEAD. SO. OF THIS SITES INSPECTED BY A VENDOR'S THIRD PARTY VENDORS. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE DO YOU GO AND INSPECT? ALL OF THEM? ALL OF THEM? OH THEY'RE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INSPECTION. SO THE FIRE CODE, THE STATE FIRE CODE BREAKS UP. BUSINESSES ARE OCCUPANCIES ARE CALLED BY THEIR RISK. SO YOU HAVE HIGH RISK MEDIUM AND LOW AND THEN THAT'S THE FREQUENCY THAT OUR INSPECTORS HAVE TO GO AND DO THEIR INSPECTION. WE DO LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS, WHICH IS LIKE A WHOLE GAMUT OF ITEMS AND JUST SAY ONE ITEM ON THAT LIFE SAFETY INSPECTION WOULD BE THAT YOU HAD YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND YOUR ALARM SYSTEM. CHECKED BY A VENDOR THAT DOES THAT. SO THE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU VERIFY THE SOUNDNESS THE VERACITY OF THE INSPECTION BY THAT THIRD PART? ABSOLUTELY YES . SO IN THE GOOD REDUNDANT NO, IT'S AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE VERIFYING IS THAT IT'S DONE AND IN ORDER TO BE A VENDOR IN A AS A FIRE, YOU HAVE TO BE A FIRE PROTECTION CONTRACTOR, SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HELD THE RESPONSIBILITY , WHEREAS THE LIFE SAFETY INSPECTORS JUST ENSURE THAT IT WAS DONE. BUT WE CAN'T ENSURE THAT IT'S DONE BY THE VENDOR IF WE'RE CHASING AROUND A PIECE OF PAPER FOR HOWEVER MANY BUSINESSES FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME, SO THIS IS JUST STREAMLINES IT.

YOU'RE HOLDING THE VENDOR'S ACCOUNTABLE. THAT'S WHAT THE POINT IS, IS TO REPORT TO GET THE REPORT TO ENSURE SO WE CAN SEE THE DEFICIENCIES. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. IF SOMEBODY DOES A

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RIGHT AND ONE MAYBE A FIRE ALARM INSPECTION. BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST CONFIRMING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INSPECTED BY A PROFESSIONAL VENDOR. SO YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE PIECE OF PAPER. THIS REQUIREMENT HERE REQUIRES THE VENDOR UPLOAD THAT TO US SO WE CAN REVIEW IT WERE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE TEETH TO ENFORCE THEM IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS CONFUSING PLANES IT. YEAH, THANK YOU. OKAY WE HAVE MOTION EMOTION FROM COMMISSIONER. SECOND FINGER. BRUNER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARKING PUBLIC COMMENTS. GIVE HIM YOUR PHONE. THANKS HEARING NONE. MARRIAGE EQUALITY YOU OUT, BRO, PLEASE MAYOR MCDONALD. COMMISSIONER BRUNER YES, COMMISSIONER COLLINS CLARKE. YES MR CAMP. YOU'RE RICH . COME ON. SO S

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