Dec 14, 2023 Local Planning Agency

[CALL TO ORDER]

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YES. MYSELF OKAY, CALL, PLEASE. LAUREN HERE, PRICE YOUR BROWNFIELD HERE, WAZA. BOARD MEMBER FORBES HERE. GOV. HERE REMEMBER MOTHER'S REMEMBER STRONG. ALRIGHTY LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INTO THE RECALL FOR WHICH IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, WE NEED TO DO AN OATH OF OFFICE. EVENING FOR THE RECORD LEAD. BAGGETT CITY

[1. OATH OF OFFICE FOR ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER]

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THERE WAS ONLY ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. IT WAS IT WAS REGARDING THE RIGHT OF WAY. CONSIDERED MINOR DEVELOPMENT AND BE CERTAIN CODIFIED SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL NOT LOSE THEIR ZONING RIGHTS. WOULD THAT BE A CORRECTION TO THE MINUTES OR IS IT JUST A QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS, WAS THAT COMPLETED THE APPROVAL. FOR THE WE CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TOMORROW AND VERIFY WHETHER IT'S BEEN DONE OR NOT, BUT FROM THE PURPOSE OF THE MINISTER ACCURACY, THEN IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF STAFF. YOU GET BACK ON THAT ANSWER TOMORROW. OKAY JUST A QUESTION AND FUTURE WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A SECOND PART OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE. CAN THE MEMBERS BE NOTIFIED? LIKE BEFORE MEETING THAT THIS WAS DONE? IT WASN'T DONE SO THAT I'M NOT ASKING SILLY QUESTIONS. IT CAN BE AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BECOME ONEROUS TO TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE THING WE DO. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO BE NOTIFIED THAT DOES TAKE PLACE IN THE APPLICANTS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IN THE IN THE FUTURE. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A QUESTION OF THE ACCURACY OF THE MINUTES. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE, WHAT THERE WAS WHEN I LOOK INTO IT. BUT YES , THEY CAN BE FOLLOW UP THAT'S DONE ON THAT WOULD BE OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO SEND AN EMAIL SAYING WAS THIS DONE OKAY? OKAY? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES? ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, ALRIGHT, OPPOSED. ALREADY. OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? ALL

[3. HCA FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM - MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT & SITE PLAN (RC): ORDINANCE NO. XXXX-2024; GRANTING A THIRD MAJOR AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 2297-2014, AKA THE 7.24-ACRE, 4-LOT WAWA GAS STATION & CONVENIENCE STORE MASTER COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (“CPUD”), THEREBY APPROVING A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOT 3 CONSISTING OF AN 11,570 SQUARE FOOT FREE STANDING EMERGENCY ROOM AND PROVIDING FOR NEW, RESTATED, AND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT; SAID PROPERTY BEING GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF SR 76 & S.E. MONTEREY ROAD, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED BY EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED; DECLARING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; REPEALING ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; ACCEPTABLE BY THE APPLICANT; AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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IN ACCORDANCE WITH PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN UNDER SECTION 11.02 0.05 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE APPLICANT MAILED 334 LETTERS TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 300 FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL. PROVIDING DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. ADDITIONALLY A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ON LOT THREE ALONG SOUTH CANADA HIGHWAY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE PROPERTY IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS CONSIST OF 1.74 ACRES, AND IT IS CURRENTLY BACON AND SITUATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTHEAST MONTEREY ROAD IN SOUTH KANNER HIGHWAY. THE SUBJECT PARCELS DESIGNATED BY A COMMERCIAL LAND, USE THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ACTIVITIES PREDOMINANTLY CONNECTED WITH THE SALE, RENTAL AND DISTRIBUTION OF PRODUCTS OF OR PERFORMANCE. A PROFESSIONAL AND NON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND TO ALLOW FOR RETAIL SALES, SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND OTHER OFFICES, SHOPPING CENTERS. FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, HOTEL MOTELS AND OTHER TEMPORARY LODGING. THE SUBJECT PARCELS DESIGNATED AS A COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. UH, A C P U D MEANS AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF DEVELOPMENT AND ALTERNATIVE PLANNING ZONING PROCEDURES FOR PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. IN ACCORDANCE TO SECTION 2.07 0.00 FRENZY AND WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVES OF THE CITIES. THE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT OUTLINED AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 11.01 0.10. ANY AMENDMENTS TO A PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OR ZONING ORDINANCE, INCLUDING CONDITIONS, AGREEMENTS, COVENANTS, MAPS AND ILLUSTRATION . SHALL WE PROCESS IF THE AMENDMENT IS A NEW REZONING APPLICATION. THE APPLICATORS REQUESTED AMENDMENT TO PUT TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED HUAHUA COMMERCIAL PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN TO DEVELOP THE FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM ON LOT THREE AND TO WRITE A NEW REINSTATED IN AMENDED CONDITIONS, INCLUDING A TIME HERBAL FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUEST AGAIN REQUESTING FOR THE COMMERCIAL PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. THIS WAS THE OVERALL MASTER SITE PLAN THAT WAS REVISED. UM AND CHENEY IN 2014. THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22 97-20 14. AMENDING THE ORIGINAL COMMERCIAL PLANNING TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVED IN 2017 THE POINT THE 5.98 ACRE PARCEL TO INCLUDE THE 1.26 ACRE SITE AND APPLYING FOR A CPU DI ZONING. DIVIDING THE 7.24 ACRE SITE INTO TWO INTO FOUR LOTS AND ADOPTING A MASTER PLAN ENCOMPASSING THE NEW THE NEW SITE TO THE ENTIRE 7.24 ACRE. IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR LOT ONE CONSISTING OF THE WAWA GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE. AND 27 2015, THE CITY COMMISSION AGAIN MENDED THE CPD ORDINANCE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF BLACK FOR CONSISTING AVAILABLE 10,224 SQUARE FEET. MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING FOR WATER'S EDGE DERMATOLOGY. IN 2016, THE CITY COMMISSION AMENDED THE AGAIN MANY OF THE CPD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF LOT TWO CONSISTENT EVERY 4442 SQUARE FEET. FOR COVERS. DRIVE THROUGH AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANT, INCLUDING A TIME LOCAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PLANNING. SUPPOSED TO PROPOSE PROJECTS CONSISTS OF 13,126 TOTAL SQUARE FEET OF A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM WITH ONE AMBULANCE LOADING ZONE IN 43 PARKING SPACES. THE EMERGENCY ROOM WILL PROVIDE EFFICIENCY, HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE TO THE RESIDENTS OF STEWART AND PROVIDE PHYSICIANS ON STAFF. 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, VERSUS A TYPICAL URGENT CARE FACILITY THAT PROVIDES A P A OR A NURSE. PARTITION ER. THE EMERGENCY ROOM IS EQUIPPED WITH THE IMAGING AND LABORATORY RESOURCES NEEDED TO DIAGNOSE AND DELIVER CARE FOR SEVERE AND LIGHT THREAT, LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS. THE EMERGENCY WILL NOT PROVIDE OVERNIGHT INPATIENT TREATMENT. PATIENTS CAN BE TRANSPORTED IF THEY REQUIRE INPATIENT ADMISSION AND ARE HIGHER LEVEL CARE. YES. THE PROPOSED BILL. THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS THAT WE'LL

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS AUDREY CREATURE. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT 16 CANADA LLC BEFORE I GET INTO MY PRESENTATION, WHICH I BELIEVE MS CHAIRWOMAN HAS I APOLOGIZE ENOUGH TO BE MY CLICKER? THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WOULD BE HER UP THERE. OKAY, THAT WORKS. OKAY. WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. WHILE THEY'RE DOING TECHNICAL. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS. SO THE 13,000 AND CHANGE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT INCLUDES A CANOPY THAT GOES AROUND THE ACTUAL INTERNAL STRUCTURE. SO THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE INSIDE IS 11,570. BUT THERE IS A CANOPY THAT GOES AROUND KIND OF LIKE A ROOFING STRUCTURE. THAT IS THE 13,000. SO WHILE IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS IT IS INTERNALLY 11,005 70 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT CANOPY IS PART OF THE TOTAL 13,000, OKAY? UM.

ADDITIONALLY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE OTHER THING BEFORE WE BEGIN. SO AS MS JODY NETWORK, KUGLER SAID, WHEN YOU PUT A CPU DEAL ON THE PROPERTY, IT DOES ADD SOME ZONING RESTRICTIONS, SOME ZONING THINGS THAT WOULDN'T BE NORMALLY THERE. SO THE PERMITTED USES THAT WERE LISTED ARE FOR COMMERCIAL ONLY, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU ADD A CPU D, WHICH ARE NOT SUPER IMPORTANT NOW, BUT JUST IN CASE IT COMES UP. I WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION. ONCE AGAIN. I'M AUDREY CREECH. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT 16 CANADA LLC. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST FOR CONTEXT, AS AND SOME OF THIS WILL BE REPETITIVE. I'M SO SORRY. BUT OF COURSE A LOT. WE'RE AT THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST MONTEREY ROAD AND SOUTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY. UM I BELIEVE YES, THAT'S MY LITTLE GREEN BUTTON. UM THIS IS HUAHUA. THAT'S COVERT . THAT'S THE VACANT SITE THAT WE WILL BE DEALING WITH A LOT THREE. THAT'S WATER'S EDGE. AND THEN THIS IS LEISURE VILLAGE, WHICH IS A RELATIVELY LARGE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT IS OUR ONLY ADJACENT NEIGHBOR. SO THAT'S US. NOW JUST TO KIND OF GO TOWARDS MISS JOBS QUESTION WE HAVE SUBMITTED AND THEY EXECUTED AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICES TO THE THREE TO THE ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 SQUARE FEET PER THE CITY'S CODE. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE PUT A SIGN UP AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT AS WELL FROM THE SIGN POSTING COMPANY. THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THIS HEARING. SO WE SPOKE ABOUT LEISURE VILLAGE, AND WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE ARE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR , SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM AS COMFORTABLE AS POSSIBLE, WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND IT WAS IN APRIL 2ND 2023. WE HAD IT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLUBHOUSE, AND WE SENT NOTICES OUT BY CERTIFIED AND REGULAR MAIL TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN LEISURE VILLAGE. UM AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT 36 RESIDENTS SHOW UP, AND THEY ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY WERE WANTING TO ASK, AND WE TRIED TO ANSWER THEM APPROPRIATELY. NO, WE HAVE TO GET INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF LAND USE AND ZONING HERE BECAUSE THE CITY OF STEWART'S BOUNDARIES IN THIS AREA ARE A BIT IDIOSYNCRATIC. JUST BECAUSE THINGS WERE ANNEXED. THINGS WERE DONE. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO JUST SAY OH, IT'S WITHIN THIS GENERAL JURISDICTION OR IN THAT

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THAT SOUNDS DAUNTING, RIGHT? IT SOUNDS DAUNTING, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. AND HERE'S WHY. THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CPU D. THEY'VE HAD AMENDMENTS TO BASICALLY DEVELOP EACH LOT WITHIN THE CPU D. SO WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I'M GOING BACK A LITTLE FARTHER THAN THIS KUGLER DEAD. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 1997 5.98 ACRES WERE MADE CPU D. THEN IN 2014, IT WAS AMENDED TO ADD ANOTHER 1.26 ACRES, MAKING IT A 7.4 ACRE CPU D IN TOTAL, WHICH IS A C P U D WE SEE TODAY AS FAR AS SIZE. IT WAS DIVIDED INTO FOUR LOTS. THERE WAS AN ADOPTED MASTER SITE PLAN ENCOMPASSING THAT ENTIRE CPU D. THERE WAS A FULL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOT ONE AS IN THE WA WA THAT WAS APPROVED AT THIS TIME AND YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S AN AMENDMENT. IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE. A PARTIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR LOT 23 AND FOUR NOW THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE. THERE IS A ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH THE ENTIRE SITE. THAT A PARTIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD HAVE CREATED THAT SHARED INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WAS THEN AMENDED AGAIN ONCE AGAIN A

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ARRIVAL TO PHYSICIAN IS WITHIN FOUR MINUTES AND THE AVERAGE DISCHARGE TIME IS 78 MINUTES, WHICH THAT'S PROBABLY MOST MOST MAIN HOSPITAL ERS. ABOUT A THIRD THE TIME OF THOSE AGAIN, VERY EFFICIENT, HIGH QUALITY AND WE HAVE HIGH PATIENT PATIENT EXPERIENCE SCORES. THAT AS WELL, SO IT WOULD BE SIMILAR SIMILAR TO THAT LOCATION. HI. AS AUDREY STATED, MY NAME IS ROSS LUCAS.

I'M WITH FORMER LUCAS ENGINEERING. WE ARE THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME DISCIPLINES THAT AREN'T CIVIL ENGINEERS. SO BEAR SEVERAL ENGINEERING SO BEAR WITH ME, BUT FIRST, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU IN THE IN THE PACKET THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER. YOU ALL SAW SOME ELEVATION VIEWS OF THE BUILDING. WE FELT LIKE A RENDERING WITH ACTUALLY PROPOSED LANDSCAPING MIGHT GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THIS VIEW IS FROM THE MAIN DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE INTO THE SIDE OF THIS IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER. OFF OF CANTOR HIGHWAY WERE RE RE UTILIZING AN EXISTING DROP OFF OR EXISTING DRIVEWAY. RATHER SO NO NEW ACCESSES PROPOSED TO THE

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UM THAT SAID DESPITE THE LIMITED AMBULANCE TRAFFIC WE DO OPERATIONALLY NEED TO SEPARATE PEDESTRIAN DROP OFF FROM AMBULANCE AND SO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FACILITY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A CONCRETE AREA THERE. THAT IS ALSO A CANOPY, AND THAT IS AN ENTRANCE DEDICATED FOR INTERIM. YOU KNOW, AMBULANCE? UH, ENTRANCE AND EXIT THERE. UM JUST ANOTHER FEW FEATURES. YOU'LL SEE PSYCHIC CIRCULATION PROVIDED ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SIDE. YOU KNOW, A VEHICLE THAT'S HELPFUL FOR BOTH FIRE TRUCKS, SERVICE VEHICLES, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN COMPLETELY GO AROUND THE SIDE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT FIGHTING. FIND ANY, YOU KNOW, AWKWARD TURNAROUND MOVEMENTS. UM OTHERWISE, THERE IS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG CANTOR HIGHWAY. THERE IS A PROPOSED SIDEWALK THAT WILL CONNECT THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND SO IT WILL MEET 80 A SLOPE REQUIREMENTS ACCESSIBLE PARKING PROVIDED THAT YOU SEE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THE LITTLE SQUARE THAT YOU SEE BELOW THE MAIN ENTRANCES IS PROPOSED BICYCLE PARKING. THERE'S ALSO A SCULPTURE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THAT WILL BE IN THAT SEVERAL GENERAL VICINITY AS WELL AS A PET SLASH SERVICE ANIMAL RELIEF AREA FOR FOLKS THAT HAPPENED TO ARRIVE WITH WITH ANIMALS. THIS IS GONNA 11 IMPORTANT THING THAT I DIDN'T TOUCH ON IS THAT THERE IS A 40 FT BUFFER BETWEEN ANY PROPOSED PAVING ANY PROPOSED SITE FEATURE AND THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE EAST THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED THAT WILL ALSO AS WE TOUCH ON DRAINAGE THAT WILL SERVE A DUAL PURPOSE OF HOUSING, DRAINAGE AS WELL. UM OTHERWISE, I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON ALL OF THE SITE FEATURES. ALL UTILITIES WILL BE FULLY SCREENED. UM AND SO THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WON'T BE ANY ANY VISIBLE UTILITIES FROM THE MAIN ROAD. THIS IS KIND OF A COLOR VIEW OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. SOME FEATURES THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE CANOPY AND UNDERSTORY TREES PROVIDED ALONG EACH BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.

WHAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IS THAT ANYWHERE THERE IS PARKING THAT'S OUTWARD FACING.

THERE IS ALSO A DENSE HEDGEROW THAT'S INTENDED TO SCREEN HEADLIGHTS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UM THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 64 TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE SITE. THAT'S I FEEL LIKE A GOOD NUMBER FOR THIS SITE. 45 OF THOSE ARE CANOPY 19 OF THOSE ARE UNDERSTORY TREES. 307 SHRUBS ARE PROPOSED, AS WELL AS A LITTLE OVER 1300 GRASSES AND GRANT GROUNDCOVER SPECIES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED HERE. UH IRRIGATION DESIGN IS LOW FLOW DRIP IRRIGATION INTENDED TO CONSERVE MINIMIZE WATER USE. UM AND THEN THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON UTILIZING NATIVE PLANTS AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL AGAIN JUST SORT OF REITERATING THAT. THIS IS THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE PLAN. THIS IS A LITTLE MORE LESS UM, MAYBE LESS FUN TO LOOK AT HERE. BUT THE EAST SIDE IS A RETENTION POND AGAIN. THAT IS THE 40 FT BUFFER THAT IS LEISURE VILLAGE TO THE EAST. UM THERE IS AN EXISTING LAW AND THEN WEST ON OUR SIDE OF THE WALL WILL BE OUR RETENTION POND. UM ANY STORM BELOW ABOUT A ONE IN FIVE YEAR OCCURRENCE WILL BE COMPLETELY RETAINED ON SITE, SO A COMBINATION OF THE RETENTION POND UNDERGROUND PIPING THE GRAVEL THAT YOU SEE ARE

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THAT'S THINKING I'VE GOT TO GET TO A HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FACILITIES OR THEY CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PERSON THAT PLACE THAT THEY'RE AT. THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING OUT OF THAT. BUSINESS AS FAST AS THEY CAN. YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE STOPPING AND MAKING SURE BUT JUST TAKES THAT ONE TIME WHERE YOU HAVE HUMAN ERROR. WE'RE ALL HUMAN, AND WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, NOT ON PURPOSE. AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT. AND HOPEFULLY IT NEVER HAPPENS, BUT THEY CAN.

THEY'RE GOING TO HIT A CAR. THEY'RE GOING TO HIT A KID. NOBODY'S REALLY TAKING ACCOUNT.

WE HAVE CLEVELAND CLINIC RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. YOU KNOW? THIS PLACE. IF IT'S 34 MILES AWAY FROM ANOTHER PLACE GREAT, BUT WITHIN A MILE YOU KNOW THEY THEY NEVER EVEN CAME TO US. WITH THE MAILINGS WITH THE MEETINGS. ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO GO AHEAD. AND SEEK OUR OPINIONS. YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE STRUCTURE, MEDIUMS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. TO MONTERREY. IT'S ALL MESSED UP. THEY'VE DONE THE BEST THAT THEY CAN OR ENTRANCE. FROM WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME BEFORE THAT I USED TO BE BLOCKED WHERE WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT TURN. NOW WE CAN'T. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE TRACK, WHICH I GET. CANADA HIGHWAY IS GETTING VERY, VERY BUSY. WE CANNOT KEEP ON COMING OUT OF THAT BUILDING LIKE THAT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL SCHOOL GUARDS. EVERYTHING STOPPED IN TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT JUST NOT A GOOD FIT RIGHT THERE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION AND SAY, OKAY? YOU KNOW WHAT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS WANT TO SAFETY THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. I DON'T KNOW. IS THIS SORT OF CONSCIONABLE DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE? TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW IT. WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A LIABILITY. WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM H C. A. TO MITIGATE ANYTHING.

HELP ASSIST WITH THIS ROADWAYS. WITH THE BICYCLE TRAFFIC WITH THE KIDS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT US ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH, WE DON'T WANT THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. LET'S LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO HIRE A DETAIL OFFICER TO GO AHEAD AND VIETNAM EMERGENCY ROOM IF IT EVER GOT TO THAT. WHAT ARE THEY GONNA HAVE? SOMEBODY CONSTANTLY BE AT THE STREET TO HOLD UP TRAFFIC TO MAKE SURE NOBODY COMES OUT ACROSS. WE CAN'T EVEN PUT AN EMERGENCY LIGHT LIKE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND STOP THE TRAFFIC WITH THE PUSH OF A BUTTON BECAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO MONTEREY. IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. SO WHAT DO WE REALLY GONNA DO? IF SOMEBODY GOD FORBID, GETS HURT. BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY COMING OUT. SIR, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY WE HAVE A MERRY OTTAWA SKI. LOOK HOW TO LOOK AT IT. YOU WILL. I NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN GOTTEN THAT ONE CORRECTLY. PROBABLY MARIO TO LUKOWSKI. I ALSO LIVE AT 2600 KANNER HIGHWAY . UM, ALSO, UH, AGAIN, GREAT CONCEPT. WONDERFUL WRONG PLACE.

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WONDERFUL FABULOUS, BUT AGAIN AS BOB'S SAYING SCHOOL ZONES IT'S JUST THE WRONG PLACE. PLACE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK KATHY HUDSON PLEASE PASS BECAUSE BASIS OKAY? ALRIGHT FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE ANY BOARD COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? YES BOB. PARDON ME FOR THE RECORD BY BRAINS WITH THE GANGSTER LAW FIRM. ALSO HERE WITH THIS CREATURE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT CAN I JUST RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THOSE COMMENTS.

WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE NOW? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU ALL CLARIFICATION? AND THEN I THINK OK, MADE ENTIRELY UP TO YOU, BUT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THOSE. OKAY WHY DON'T YOU PROVIDE WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON? WELL FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE THERE WAS MISUNDERSTANDING, AND I CAN ALSO DIFFER TO JOHN SENATE. BUT IT'S 0.9. AN AMBULANCE 9.9% PER DAY VERSUS NINE PER DAY 9.9. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S LESS WELL LESS THAN ONE AMBULANCE. WELL, THAT'S BUT IT AVERAGES OUT. IT'S STATISTICALLY IT AVERAGES OUT TO LESS THAN ONE A DAY. OKAY SO THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN. THEY CAN SNICKER BEHIND ME, BUT THAT'S JUST THE FACT IT IS. THE OTHER. THE OTHER POINT IS WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC. IF THIS IS ONE OF THE LOWEST TRAFFIC IMPACT GENERATORS YOU CAN HAVE IN THIS LOCATION. YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T MAKE COMMENTS WHEN YOU ALL WERE TALKING, SO LET US MAKE OUR PLACE. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST, UH, LOW IMPACT TRAFFIC WISE, YOU CAN HAVE YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WAS MENTIONED. YOU HAVE A WA WA'S, WHICH IS 24 7, AND IT'S VERY BUSY. YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH. ALL OF THESE ARE PERMITTED USES AND APPROVED USES AND YOU HAVE THE WATER'S EDGE DERMATOLOGY, WHICH IS A VERY BUSY DERMATOLOGY, MIKE, MY DERMATOLOGIST OF CHOICE ITSELF.

OUR TRAFFIC IMPACTS WITH THE STUDY WAS FOUND TO BE DIMENSION IMUS. YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH MS NETWORK, BUT THIS IS YOU COULD STILL PUT AT THIS SITE. THERE COULD BE ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT COULD BE ALLOWED TO GO IN THERE WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A LOW IMPACT TRAFFIC GENERATOR. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS SITE. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 26 YEARS. AND I ALWAYS HERE WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE USE IS JUST THE LOCATION. WELL, IT'S ALWAYS THE LOCATION. IF IT'S YOUR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT. I'M A MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS NOT AN ARTIST STATE GROUP HERE. SO I UNDERSTAND. WHAT THE ISSUES ARE HEAR THESE STORIES ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS HEAR THERE'S GOING TO BE DEATHS AT THAT INTERSECTION. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE STUFF JUST DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION. UM. ALSO AGAIN I MENTIONED THE WAR WAS ALREADY HAS 24 7. THE CLEVELAND CLINIC.

IS NOT AN EMERGENCY ROOM. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING. THAT'S DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AND THOSE ARE APPOINT CLINICS WITH APPOINTMENTS. THOSE ARE NOT. IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY ROOM. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S EVEN THERE IS NO THERE. THERE IS AN URGENT CARE THERE. BUT THAT'S AGAIN THE USE WERE PROPOSING IS DIFFERENT THAN AN URGENT CARE. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHEN WAS YOUR TRAFFIC? THE TRAFFIC DATA THAT YOU DID? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT DONE? BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS IN THE PAST THAT THE DATA THAT'S PROVIDED TO US THE LAST TIME THE ASSESSMENT WAS DONE WAS LIKE 2019, SO WE ARE CURIOUS IF ITS CURRENT TO NOW. YOU DON'T NEED TO COME OUT OF RECORD. MHM. SO I THINK IT WAS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF THE OF THE APPLICATION, WHICH WAS 2022. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING WITH THIS IS THAT FSC RS IN GENERAL, ARE A VERY, VERY WHEN I SAY VERY LOW VERY LOW

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IT'S PROBABLY 1/10, OR 20TH OF WHAT A GAS STATION OR A RESTAURANT WERE PRODUCED. JUST GENERALLY, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC WITH THESE OKAY? AND ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE TRAFFIC. THE DO INCLUDE WHAT COSTCO IMPACT IS GOING TO HAVE ON TRAFFIC IN THOSE NUMBERS. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION . I THINK THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS AGAIN WAS MORE OF THE CHIP CHIP BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A LOW LEVEL TRIP GENERATOR.

THERE'S NOT EVEN A LEVEL OF STUDY REQUIRED TO THAT DEGREE, BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN, IT IS TRULY DE MINIMUS. IT'S A VERY, VERY LOW TRIP GENERATOR. OKAY, SO IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW MANY AMBULANCES OR VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING VERSUS THE TRAFFIC IN THE CURRENT AREA AND THE IMPACT OF THAT THAT'S RIGHT IF WE WERE IF WE WERE PROPOSING HIGHER INTENSITY USE THAN ONE WOULD HAPPEN, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. AND SO THIS IS TRULY THE LOWEST CATEGORY THAT YOU HAVE. AND SO IT IS. IT IS MORE OF JUST A LETTER THAT JUST STATES THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF TRIPS. COULD BE FOR THAT JOKE.

LET ME JUST SEE IF THEY'RE SO COVERED KEELIN KENNEDY. THE LOCATION. IN THE TRAFFIC, AND SO I THINK WE COVERED MOST OF IT. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS GET A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS IN THEIR POINTS. DID YOU GUYS NOTIFY AND TALK TO THE MARTIN COUNTY LIKE SCHOOLS TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT? HMM NO, I DON'T THINK THAT WE DID NOT SPEAK TO ANYBODY. MARTIN COUNTY. BUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM I MEANT LIKE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, RIGHT? YEAH, THE AMBULANCE QUESTION. AND IF IT WAS DURING THAT TIME, MAN YOU HAVE TO. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY FILL OUT A FORMAL THINGS. UM SO NOBODY NOTIFIED. OKAY, ALRIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION COULD BE FOR THIS GENTLEMAN. NOT SURE WHO YOU EMPHASIZE, EMPHASIZE THAT IT IS SUCH EMPHASIZE AND YOU KEEP EMPHASIZING IT'S SUCH A LOW POINT OF TRAFFIC AND WHAT NOT TO DO. WITH THE FACILITY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO INVEST IN. MY QUESTION IS, WHY WOULD YOU INVEST IN SUCH A FACILITY? IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON HAVING TRAFFIC COMING IN. IT'S MINIMAL. SURE I THINK VERSUS AN URGENT CARE AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS FROM JUST FROM A BUSINESS BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. AND SO YOU'RE TAKING A SMALLER NUMBER OF PATIENTS AND PROVIDING A HIGHER IF YOU ITTY SERVICE AND IN A SENSE TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S THE MODEL. THE MODEL FOR AN URGENT CARE IS TO SEE MORE PATIENTS AND PROVIDING, YOU KNOW LESS. YEAH YOU'RE NOT DOING THE SCANNING, AND YOU'RE NOT DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THAT WILL BE DONE HERE. AND SO THIS IS JUST A LOWER PATIENT VOLUME THAN THOSE I HAVE A FEW OF YAHOO! HE SPOKE TO IT PRETTY WELL. TYPICALLY AN URGENT CARE MIGHT SEE 3 TO 4 TIMES THE VOLUME OF AN EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT FREESTANDING EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE IN TERMS OF LIFE OF PATIENTS COMING THAT COMES IN. THAT IS HAVING AN ACTIVE STROKE. WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE PATIENT, AN URGENT CARE CANNOT LACERATION AND ARM OR DOCTORS CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT PATIENT AND URGENT CARE SOMETIMES CAN BUT TYPICALLY SOMETIMES EVEN SEND THOSE PATIENTS TO A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. SO AGAIN, HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE DOES COST MORE. BUT TYPICALLY, PATIENTS WILL HAVE IF THEY HAVE A PLAN WILL HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE IF THEY DON'T WE SEE EVERY PATIENT THAT COMES IN OUR DOOR. WHETHER THEY CAN PAY OR NOT, UM, WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO THAT, SO JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. OR MAYBE IF IT GOES ON SOMETHING ELSE. THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU MADE A POINT OF 0.9 EMERGENCY. AMBULANCES I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD QUANTIFY AN EMERGENCY. I MEAN EMERGENCY. THERE COULD BE 12 OF THEM IN ONE NIGHT, SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DOING AN AVERAGE, BUT YOU REALLY CAN'T GUARANTEE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE 12. AMBULANCES COMING THROUGH FROM ONE O'CLOCK TO FOUR O'CLOCK WHEN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NO OTHER URGENT CARE FACILITY THERE. YEAH YES, FEEL FREE.

THEY'RE USING DATA WE HAVE. I THINK WITHIN OUR COMPANY ABOUT H C A HAS 185 HOSPITALS AND MANY ACCESS POINTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA TO PULL FROM IN TERMS OF AVERAGES, AND THAT'S I'M SURE WHAT THEY WERE REFERENCING. IS THESE AROUND THE COUNTRY, SO IS IT IN COMPARISON WITH A DENSITY? THIS IS CAYMAN CANTOR. AND MONTEREY IS ALREADY DENSE. IT IS ALREADY OVERCROWDED AND, UM, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, THERE'S FUTURE BUILDING THAT WILL GO ON THERE, SO I TO ADD TO. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LOGICAL AGAIN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WRONG LOCATION NEEDS TO BE IN A DIFFERENT AREA. OKAY MY NAME IS JOHN SENATE, UH, WORK WITH SURVEILLANCE AND I'M THE DESIGN MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A YEAR WITH ALL THESE FOLKS. UH I WOULD SHARE THAT THE NUMBER WE CAME UP WITH, AND THAT AVERAGE IS ACROSS

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AND THEN THEY ENDED UP WITH A WAR WALLS OUT THERE A CARWASH, TRACTOR SUPPLY AND WHATNOT. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING BACK SAYING YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY HAD TO COST GO THERE. SO IT HAPPENS. AND I'M JUST SAYING YOU KNOW, IN THIS GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK, ESPECIALLY IF TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN. THIS MAY BE THE BEST USE YOU CAN PUT THEIR CHAIR TRAFFIC REPORT THAT SAYS THEY WILL NOT BE AN IMPACT TO TRAFFIC CHAIR. OKAY ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T SAY THERE WASN'T GONNA BE AN IMPACT OF TRAFFIC. IS IT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AS A MATTER OF SOMETHING ELSE COULD GO IN THERE THAT WOULD BE A LARGER TRAFFIC GENERATOR. IT'S A GREAT CHANCE IN THERE IS GOING TO IMPACT. ABSOLUTELY 100% OKAY, WE HAVE, UH, LADY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC. MISS MARIA SOLUTION TO T O AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ALSO A RESIDENT, OF COURSE, DELABAR HERE. AND LOOKING AT MY PHONE RIGHT NOW. CLEVELAND CLINIC MARTIN NORTH HOSPITAL IS 0.7 MILES 0.7 MILES. IT'S AN EMERGENCY ROOM. AGAIN. NO REASON WHY TO HAVE IT ACROSS FROM WHERE IT'S HEAVILY DENSE WITH POPULATION. THE TRAFFIC WHEN IT COMES TO THE KIDS WITH MARTIN COUNTY. WE LIVE THERE. WE SEE THEM GO TO SCHOOL. WE SEE THEM LEAVE. THEY CUT THROUGH WATER EDGE THEY CUT THROUGH WA WA.

THEY CUT THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AREAS. NOW YOU MAY SAY WE HAVE 0.9 AMBULANCE LEAVING AND THEY COULD BE CAUTIOUS. HOWEVER WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON DRIVING INTO THE CLINIC? OR THE EMERGENCY ROOM. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THINKING STRAIGHT. THEY'RE RUSHING IN TO GO SEE A DOCTOR OR WHO MEMBERS THERE TO HELP THEM. THEY'RE NOT THINKING THEY'RE PUTTING THESE KIDS THEY'RE PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE WHO WALK ALONG KANNER HIGHWAY ALREADY. TO GET WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO AND AGAIN. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW THE TRAFFIC AT CANTOR AND MONTEREY IS HORRID. YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE. ON A SUMMER DAY. DURING TRAFFIC TWO TIMES BEFORE YOU CAN GET THROUGH THAT LIGHT.

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THEY'RE ON THEIR PHONES AND SO BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE ELDERLY WHO DON'T HAVE THE REFLEX TO STOP OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE SAME AGAIN. YES THERE WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY GO THERE ANOTHER RESTAURANT, MAYBE MORE TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 24 7. IN OTHER WORDS, 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ALL THE TIME. AND I JUST THINK THAT THE QUALITY OF MY LIFE AND THE PEOPLE AROUND ME IS GOING TO BE DIMINISHED BECAUSE OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I DID PUT THE TRAFFIC REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE UP. THE REPORT WAS PREPARED IN OCTOBER, 20. TWO. OKAY AND IT SHOWS THE CHIP GENERATION BASED OFF A I T TRIP GENERATION MANUAL. UM, THAT IS THE STATISTICS THAT MOST OF THE IN OUR WORLD. THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD PULL MOST OF THIS STATISTICS FROM OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE PER DAY. THAT TWO LOOKS LIKE 2 80 90. RIGHT TO 89 DAILY TRIPS. THAT WHEN WE'RE ESTIMATING, YES, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SHOWING. BUT DURING THE PEAK TIMES IS SHOWING LESS THAN 20 TRIPS. OKAY? QUICK QUESTION HOW MUCH OF THAT IS EMPLOYEE VERSUS PATIENT? I'M SORRY. EMPLOYEE VERSUS PATIENT. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE BASED ON THE I T E PUT IN THE CODE FOR A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY ROOM, WHICH IS THE USE OF 650. BASED OFF THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL SITE, AND IT GIVES YOU THE AVERAGE AND THEN IT GIVES YOU THE TRIP GENERATIONS DURING THE PEAK HOURS. DO YOU ALL HAVE THE DATA OR YOUR ACTUAL PATIENT LOAD VERSUS EMPLOYEES ON AND OFF. WELL, THERE'S. JOHN SENATE WITH SURVEILLANCE REPRESENTING H D A THERE ARE 20 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, AND THAT SHIFT ROTATES THREE TIMES A DAY. MOST OF THE TIME. SO, UH, THAT WOULD EQUATE TO 60 OF THOSE TRIPS BEING GENERATED BY THE EMPLOYEES. ASSOCIATED ONE WAY CORRECT 122 2 WAYS ROUGHLY 120 IS EMPLOYED, RIGHT? YEP BALANCE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TYPICAL PATIENTS COMING. UM DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PEAK HOUR OF THOSE PATIENTS ARE TYPICALLY BY THE RECORDS? IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT DOES VARY DEPENDING ON THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DO EVEN AT OUR MAIN HOSPITAL OR DARWIN EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, TYPICALLY MORE IN THE THAT 4 TO 7, BUT AGAIN, IT DOES VERY BAD THE DAY SO IT'S HARD TO SAY NO FIRM DATE, BECAUSE SOME DAYS YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON SICKNESS, INDIVIDUALS MIGHT COME IN THE MORNING FOR WHATEVER WHATEVER REASON MIGHT BE, BUT THAT'S IN OUR EXPERIENCE. WHAT WE SEE ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF THE DAY 4 TO 7. YEAH BUT AGAIN, IT DOES VARY BY THE DAY. SO IN A BIT SURE, THE DATA HE'S LOOKED AT WOULD SHOW. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE COMMUNITY. AND SO IT'S I'M JUST GIVING YOU LIKE ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC COUNT JUST ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION MOST OF OUR MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS, SO THEY WERE THERE WOULD BE MORNING AND EVENING SHIFT CHANGE . SOME DO WORK, DEPENDING ON THE SKILL SET WOULD WORK IN THE MID SHIFT. INCOMING. MAYBE IN THE MID SHIFT, SO IT DOES VARY, OKAY? AGAIN I'M I'M ROSS LUCAS. CIVIL ENGINEER. SO THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS UP IS WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR. UM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE A FRAME OF REFERENCE TO THE PM AM AND PM PEAK HOURS ARE SORT OF THE GOLD STANDARD FOR HOW YOU LOOK AT AT TRAFFIC IMPACTS, AND E IS A MANUAL WITH WITH IT GENERATES THESE TRIPS AND SO AT THE EU AGAIN THE STANDARD AND IT'S REFERENCED AT THE TOP. BUT I JUST WANTED TO. I PULLED UP JUST SOME OTHER USES. JUST FOR COMPARISON. SAY SO THAT 18 THAT'S BASED ON ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER 1.6 M P M TRIPS PER SQUARE FOOT PER 1000 SQUARE FEET. SO THIS IS 11,500 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU DO SO BY COMPARISON, WHERE THAT NUMBER IS, IS 1.65. FOR AN FC ARE A GAS STATION. THE SAME NUMBER WOULD BE 100 AND 9.27 FOR THE SAME

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IT REALLY IS VERY CONGESTED. AND THOUGH YOUR NUMBERS MAY INDICATE THAT IT DOESN'T WARRANT A STUDY FROM MY EXPERIENCE. UM WHEN I SAW THE KIND OF FACILITY I WAS LIKE, HUH? REALLY AND THE NEXT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS. THERE IS A MAJOR DRAINAGE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE. I HAVE HAD NEAR COLLISION RIGHT THERE. WHEN IT RAINS HEAVILY EXACTLY IN FRONT OF THE GATE OF THOSE, UM THE THEY THE MOBILE HOMES. THERE IS I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS.

I HAVE I DRIVE AN SUV. I DON'T EVEN TRY TO GO IN THERE, SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY A STUDY NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE BECAUSE THAT WATER IS ALREADY TAKEN THE LENGTH OF THREE VEHICLES RIGHT THERE. YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION, AND YOU JUST FOLLOW THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND BY THE TIME THEY SERVE OUT, YOU COULD BE IN IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS, BUT WE DO REALLY NEED TO GET SOME STUDIES DONE THERE, AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE STUDIED TO SEE THE ACTIVITY. AND HOW BACKED UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ONLY IS IT ONLY JUST TWO LANES AND THEN WHEN YOU COME ALMOST OF THE LIGHT, THEN YOU HAVE THE TURN LANES AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE LANES. I THINK IT'S TWO LANES, MAINLY, IT'S IMPORTANT. SO IT'S THREE LANES THAT, UM SO MAYBE MAYBE AT THE TIME WHEN I HAD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONSTRUCTION THERE ALSO, BUT IT REALLY BACKS YOU UP WAY BACK. AND THEN YOU REALIZE THAT IT'S THE PEOPLE TRYING TO TURN TO GO TO PALM CITY. THAT IT KIND OF PUSHES THE TRAFFIC BACK BECAUSE THEN SO THEN, WITH THE WITH THE NARROWNESS OF THE STREET AND PEOPLE WANT TO TURN INTO AN URGENT CARE. HOW DOES YOU KNOW? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A STUDY. I'LL NOTE THAT THAT WE DID STUDY DRAINAGE. DID WE TOUCHED ON THAT? NOW THAT THIS IS WHEN STUDYING WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT OFFSITE EXISTING CONDITIONS. THERE IS A ISSUE WITHIN DOTS RIGHT AWAY. THAT'S JUST BEYOND THE PURVIEW OF WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT. BUT THEN YOU NEED IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOUR BUSINESS. SO YOU DO NEED NOW THAT I BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ANNOYED BY IT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT'S SO WE WILL. WE WILL GO THROUGH A DRAINAGE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH F DOT AND I'M HAPPY TO BRING THAT TO THEIR ATTENTION AT THAT POINT AND WORK WITH THEM. I'LL NOTE THAT JUST THE NATURE OF THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF I DON'T WANT TO MISS MISREPRESENT THIS. THERE'S VERY LITTLE DRAINAGE, LEAVING THAT SITE NOW, BUT THAT WILL BE REDUCED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, SO IT WOULD BE. I'M NOT SAYING WE WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

NATURALLY THAT WAY. I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT WELL, IF ANYTHING, WILL WILL VERY SLIGHTLY IMPROVE IT, BUT WE WILL BRING IT UP WITH F DOT AS PART OF THAT DRAINAGE PERMIT, BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT THAT THAT THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANY INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNER, BUT F DOT SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT, FOR SURE, TRADITION AND QUALITY. ONE MORE THING ON THAT SO FOR THE DRAINAGE, IT SAID, IN DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE LED. SO IS YOUR SOLUTION BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE THINGS. YOU MENTIONED THE RETENTION POND RIGHT, WHICH IS NOT REALLY LID, RIGHT? SURE THE MEETS THE STANDARDS RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING TODAY, RIGHT IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE FOR PROPERTY LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS LOWER. SO I WENT THERE AND IT IS. NOTICEABLY LOWER IN THAT AREA, THEN CULVER'S COVERS IS LIKE UP ON A HILL. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT DRAINAGE? SURE SO THE SITE THE FINISHED FLOOR WILL BE SIMILAR ELEVATION TO THE CULVERTS. AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME EARTHWORK. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO RAISE UP THAT LOT TO BE THE SAME, UH, ELEVATION AND ITS CULTURES THAT THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN THE LOW IMPACT DESIGN, BUT THE PREMISES CERTAINLY MANY THINGS THAT ONE CAN DO. THE PREMISE OF IT IS LARGELY JUST INFILTRATION BASED. YOU'RE TRYING TO INSTEAD OF UM FREE. L I D YOU WERE YOU WERE MORE INTERESTED IN SORT OF TREATING THE RUNOFF THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DISCHARGE LED PRINCIPLES ARE

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AND THEN THAT'S DESIGNED UP THROUGH 100 YEARS ARE USING A SPECIFIC LOW IMPACT DESIGN SOLUTION. AND WHAT IS THAT CALLED? THE IT'S INFILTRATION IS AN INFILTRATION. TRENCH INFILTRATION TRENCH, OKAY? I JUST HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, AND I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. I'M NEW. SO I WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND PROBABLY HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS AND PROBABLY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE UM HE SHOULD HAVE. I SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONS. DEFINITELY SO ON PAGE 22. IT TALKS ABOUT UNDER REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AND NATIVE PRESERVE AREA. IT SAYS NOT LESS THAN 25% OF THE CPU. D SHALL BE AN OPEN SPACES DEFINED. UM WHAT PERCENT ARE YOU? LET ME GRAB MY PLAN. AND THAT WAS RESTATED CONDITION. SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UM, THE ON ON SHEET. L 2.0 THOSE. THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE ALL PROVIDED, UM SO 20% 100 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL PARK YOU'LL SEE PROVIDED 33 REQUIRED 20 TRYING TO INTERPRET THIS QUICKLY. IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LESS THAN 25. THE MINIMUM REQUIRED IS 15,682 SQUARE FEET. PLUS 500 PROVIDED. IS A GREAT QUESTION.

ONE SECOND, PLEASE. BUT ITS CIVIL PLAN. I WILL SAY THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN VETTED , BUT IT'S JUST HAVING A HARD TIME RECALLING IT HERE. SO I THINK THE PERCENTAGES OH, THERE IS SO OPEN SPACE 25,132 SQUARE FEET. AND 15,682 SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED. OKAY? AND I THINK THESE ARE FOR YOU SO UM, THERE WAS IN THE DOCUMENTATION. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE WERE LEFT BLANK AND SO ON PAGE 25 OF 168. IT SAYS, UH, AT THE TOP. SITE LIGHTING FOR LOT THREE SHALL COMPLY WITH AND THEN IT'S BLANK. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WASN'T FILLED OUT OR COPY AND PASTE DIDN'T GO THROUGH. PAGE 25 OF 168. OKAY? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY SO THIS IS THE L P. A RECOMMENDING BODY CORRECT. YOU RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD CORRECT? WHAT IT IS. YOU WANT APPROVED, OR MAYBE NOT. SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL BE APPROVED AT THE CITY AND THE CITY WILL BE FILLING IN THOSE THOSE THOSE BLANKS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO TO PAGE. IF YOU GO TO PAGE 15, YOU'LL NOTICE IT SAYS DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS TO BE APPROVED FOR FC ARE SHALL BE LISTED HERE. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T APPROVE AS A PART OF THE CPU D UNTIL THE CITY SAYS WE CAN. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BLANK. ITS VARIOUS THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TELL US IS OKAY. UM, SO , FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD PUT ALL THE APPROVED PLANS . YOU GUYS DON'T APPROVE THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE RECOMMENDING BODY, BUT THE CITY COMMISSION DOES ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE , UH, LET'S SEE ANOTHER POINT TO THE COMMISSION BLANK. YES, THEY DO. AND THEN THEY FILL THEM IN AS A PART OF THE FINAL COMMISSION PROCESS, AND THEN WE APPROVE THEM AT THE READINGS OF THE VARIOUS READINGS OF THE ITEMS AT THE COMMISSION MEETING. OKAY, SO BASICALLY AS A PART OF

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YES SO I MEAN, YOU COULD LIKE SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH SO CLOSELY BECAUSE THIS IS A CPU D THAT'S BEEN AMENDED MULTIPLE TIMES. AND WE'RE AMENDING AGAIN TO ADD THIS PARTICULAR LOT DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD TO STRIKE OUT CERTAIN THINGS AND MAKE VERY CLEAR WHAT WE STRUCK OUT. AND THEN WHAT? HOPEFULLY WILL PUT IN, SO WE HAD TO BASICALLY SHOW WHAT CHANGES WE WERE MAKING AND PUT A BLANK, WHERE NECESSARY WHERE THE CITY HAD TO PUT IN THEIR OWN INFORMATION. SO THIS IS NOT AN APPROVED DOCUMENT. THIS IS A DRAFT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO THE CITY TO SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, POSSIBLY THAT IT'S APPROVED. RECOMMENDING DENIAL, WHATEVER, AND WE THEN GO TO THE CITY AND SAY HERE IS OUR CPU, D. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED. PLEASE LET US KNOW IF THAT'S OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE THE STRIKING OUT IS HAPPENING AS TO THE PARTICULAR PROVISIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WOULD YOU MIND READING IT TO ME? I'M SORRY. THE DEVELOPER MAY GRADE INTO 100% OF THE RECREATED NATIVE VEGETATION AREA IN ORDER TO MEET STORMWATER NEEDS FOR REMAINING LOT THREE. OKAY SO I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. UM SO I'M GONNA LET ROSS TAKE THAT UP. BUT A LOT THREE DOES ONLY HAVE SO MUCH ROOM BECAUSE OF COURSE, THERE IS A LOT FOR LOT TWO, SO I'M GONNA LET ROSS FINISHED THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION. SURE SO, YES, THIS LOT BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL. IT HAS TO BE HAS TO BE TOUCHED. THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO DO THAT. YOU CAN'T 222 GRADE. THERE'S NO WAY TO PRESERVE ANY PIECE OF IT. IT'S JUST A SMALL LOT. HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THAT WE'RE EXCEEDING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF REPLANTING OF NATIVE VEGETATION THAT'S PART OF THE FOCUS OF USING NATIVE VEGETATION AROUND THE SITE AS IT GETS PLANTED. IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING IT UP? SO YOU'RE BASICALLY JUST GOING TO RAISE THE WHOLE THING LIKE RAISE AS IN WITH THE Z AND THEN PUT IN THERE ? YES ALL OF IT WILL BE GREAT AT SHORT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING WALL IN THE BACK REMAINS, AND THAT'S TECHNICALLY THERE IS SOME PROPERTY BEHIND THAT IN THE PROPERTY LINE, 5 FT OR SO BUT ALL OF OUR SIDE OF THE WALL WILL HAVE TO BE REGRADED TO FOR THIS USE, OKAY? I JUST WANT ONE LAST COMMENT RIGHT NOW GOING ON, BUT, UH SO I DEFINITELY LIKE ALL THE THOUGHTS THAT PEOPLE RAISED THAT SPOKE TODAY. I THOUGHT OF MYSELF AS WELL BECAUSE MY MOTHER IN LAW LIVED AT DELL BAHIA. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AREA VERY WELL. MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER BOTH WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY. UM I'VE GONE THERE AND PICK THEM UP BEFORE SO I KNOW THEY WALK ACROSS THAT AREA, SO I DEFINITELY LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THAT TRAFFIC THAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE DAY, NOT JUST THE KIDS WALKING THROUGH THERE, BUT ALSO THE PARENTS THAT COME AND PICK THEM UP. UM THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC IS. GENERALLY WAIT AND HUAHUA. THEY WAITED CULVERTS. WHATEVER. AND SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I ALSO LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS RIGHT THAT. YES, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT TO TRAFFIC YESTERDAY. MAYBE SOME NOISE, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS OF DELL BAHIA COULD POSSIBLY IT COULD BE LIFE SAVING TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY ROOM ACROSS THE STREET. BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU MY MOTHER IN LAW ONE TIME HAD TO GO TO CLEVELAND CLINIC. AND SHE WAITED THERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THERE. SO SAME THING WITH THE KIDS THAT YOU HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, AND GOD FORBID THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING HAPPENS. I ALSO SEE THAT AS A BENEFIT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS IN THAT AREA AROUND THE TRAFFIC AND, UH HONESTLY, I DID LIKE YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT IS A LOWER PERCENTAGE THAN IF IT WAS A MCDONALD'S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOSPITAL. NOW THE LOCAL H C. A IN FORT ST LUCY. WHEN THEY HAVE A PATIENT WHO CANNOT BE TREATED THERE OR NEEDS FURTHER HOSPITALIZATION, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE. THEY HAVE, I GUESS. A CONTRACT WITH PORT SAINT LUCIE

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IT PROBABLY WOULD BE A MORE EFFICIENT IN THE TRANSFER PROCESS TO GO TO A FLORIDA ST LUCIE HOSPITAL IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM IN THE HOSPITAL TIMELY. BUT PATIENTS STILL HAVE A CHOICE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT. OKAY THANK YOU, JUST AS WE DO AT PORT ST LUCIE. IF A PATIENT SAYS I WANT TO GO TO TRADITION HOSPITAL, THEY HAVE THAT CHOICE AS WELL. NORMALLY WITH AMBULANCE SERVICES. THEY TAKE YOU TO THE CLOSEST THAT IS FOR AMBULANCE, THOUGH, VERSUS A THIRD PARTY ENTITY THAT DOES THE TRANSPORT. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT AT TIMES PATIENTS WOULD SALVATORE'S BUT NORMALLY YOU'RE YOU ARE CORRECT. YES UNDERSTANDS THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT YES, THAT MEANS THAT ANYBODY WHO DID REQUIRE HOSPITAL CARE. UM TO BE MONITORED OVERNIGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE SENT TO ANOTHER. THAT COULD HAPPEN ANYTIME OF THE DAY IF THEY NEEDED TO BE ADMITTED, BECAUSE WE'RE OPEN 24 7. IF A PATIENT CAME IN AT 2 A.M. HE YOU PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADMITTED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE CHOICE. DO I WANT TO GO TO A 4% LUCY HOSPITAL? DON'T WANT TO GET A MARK NORTH, BUT IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT. THAT COULD HAPPEN AT ONE PM AS WELL. SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS. BUT YES, WE SAY THAT SANTA OVERNIGHT FACILITY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT KEEPING PATIENTS THERE FOR DAYS AT A TIME. YEAH. QUESTION. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE IF WHEN WE CALL 911, RIGHT? WE NEED AN AMBULANCE RIGHT EMERGENCY. WHO CHOOSES THE LOCATION. SO DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION, UH, FIRE RESCUE DOES HAVE A CHOICE WHERE THEY MIGHT SAY, HEY, WE DO NEED TO GET YOU TO THE CLOSEST FACILITY. SOMETIMES PATIENTS DO HAVE A CHOICE, DEPENDING ON THE CONDITION. NOW WHAT? I THINK WE'RE TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION HERE IS MORE SO IF A PATIENT NEEDS TO BE ADMITTED, SO THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE FACILITY NOT ARRIVING TO THE FACILITY. THAT'S WHEN THE PATIENT WOULD HAVE THE CHOICE OF SAYING I WANT TO GO TO MARTIN NORTH VS HC, A FLORIDA ST LUCIE HOSPITAL VERSUS ACTUALLY BRINGING THEM TO THE FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH MY QUESTION WAS SPECIFIC ABOUT ADMISSION. YEAH EXACTLY. BASICALLY MOST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRANSPORT CORRECT IF THE PATIENT DID HAVE TO BE ADMITTED, WHICH, AGAIN AS REFERENCING EARLIER IS, IS NOT, AS IS MORE OF AN EXCEPTION AND NOT NOT AN ORGAN W TRANSPORTING RIGHT. YES THE TIME IS MAY BE OF THE ESSENCE, BUT IT'S NOT.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY, IF A PATIE IS GOING TO BE TRANSPORTED, WE WOULD STABILIZE THEM IN THE FACILITY, ENSURE THEY COULD BE TRANSPORTED IN STABLE CONDITION. CORRECT USUALLY NOT WELL, IF YOU GET SOMEBODY NEEDS AN AMBULANCE, THEY'RE GOING OUT IN AN AMBULANCE CONDITION VERSUS IN THAT AGAIN IS RARE. WHERE SOMETIMES HEY, THIS PATIENT WALKED IN OUR FACILITY AND THEY NEED THEY THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY'RE HAVING A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE TAKEN TO A TRAUMA CENTER, NOT, UM, WHICH WHICH MIGHT EVEN BYPASS MULTIPLE HOSPITALS. FOR THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. THERE'S A NUMBER OF TIMES. AMBULANCES ARE USED. TO TRANSPORT YES, BUT NOT IT'S. IT'S AN EXCEPTION, I WOULD SAY THAN THE NORM CORRECT FROM FROM AN EMERGING FROM A FREESTANDING EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT TO HOSPITAL. YES, IT DOES HAPPEN ON OCCASION, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN EXCEPTION THAN IN OR YOU'RE NOT REALLY GETTING TOO MANY AMBULANCES VERSUS THEM BEING TRANSPORTS. AT YOUR DECISION, LEAVING RIGHT, CORRECT. OKAY, AND, UH. OH, THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS DO YOU USE IN ANY OF THE EXITS AND ENTRANCES, RIGHT? TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NO THERE'S NOT NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I WOULD LIKE, DEFINITELY LET THEM SPEAK TO THIS EMERGENCIES THEY CAN USE OFF MY WAY. OFF THE YOU KNOW THE ONES ON CANNER BECAUSE THERE'S NO NOTHING LIMITING YOU GUYS TO MOVE RIGHT? ACCESS THERE'S CROSS ACCESS AND CROSS ACCESS

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I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN SHINE A LITTLE LIGHT TO LOOK ONTO SOMETHING ELSE. I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. I STILL THINK THAT THE DRAINAGE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO IMPACT EVERYBODY. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED, BUT WHEN WE STEP BACK AND LOOK LONG TERM AS THE DOWNTOWN GETS MORE AND MORE CONGESTED, MAYBE IT'S NOT THAT BAD OF AN IDEA TO HAVE A GREAT FACILITY THAT PROVIDES THESE QUALITY OF SERVICE IN THAT AREA. JUST A THOUGHT. AND THERE'S THE TRAIN TO THINK ABOUT THE TRAIN AND THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC. AND I ALSO WANT TO HONOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET THAT IT WASN'T NOTIFIED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE OUT OF RANGE. BUT MAYBE, UM, YOU GUYS COULD ADDRESS WHY THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET WASN'T NOTIFIED. ARE THEY OUT OF RANGE? OR DID NOT VERSUS? YEAH. IS IT ACCOUNTING? HE DID SUCH FILLED OUT FOR WEEKS. WE PROVIDE PROVIDED THE NOTICES THE 300. SURROUNDING OWNERS. SO IF THEY WERE IN 300 FT, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT A NOTICE OF THAT, BASED ON THE RADIUS SEARCH THAT WE WERE GIVEN. WE DID MEET WITH NOW WE DID MEET SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LEISURE VILLAGE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE THE MOST IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU KNOW ARE ACROSS THE STREET, SIX LANES, AND THERE'S A GAS STATION OVER THERE ALREADY ANOTHER OTHER USES ALONG THAT WAY, SO AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH CANADA HIGHWAY BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE CANCER HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO TAKE THE MORE TRAFFIC AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WHY IT WAS SIX LANES SO AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE CONCERNS AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, MY KIDS WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, TOO. I PUT TWO OF THEM THROUGH THERE, AND I'VE GOT A GRANDSON. IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY END UP GOING THERE TOO. SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT DOING ANY OF THE COMMENTS OR ANYTHING. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN AGAIN.

YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER USES COULD BE THERE AND THAT THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING I LIKE TO SAY IS THIS BOARD IS MERELY A RECOMMENDING BOARD. THEY HAVE A CHOICE OF GOING TO THE COMMISSION. NO MATTER WHAT OUR DECISION IS PRO OR CON. UM. THE BEST USE OF THIS BOARD AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER. RIGHT AT THIS STAGE. UM SO A LOT OF YOUR COMMENTS AND STUFF. I'M SURE THEY'VE HEARD YOUR COMMISSION BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU CAN TALK TO HIM. SHE CAN'T WORK IT OUT. UM I TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT PRO PROJECT ON THIS ONE. BECAUSE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I'VE HAD TO USE AND GLITCHES FOR MY WIFE. OKAY, TRANSPORT AMBULANCES. YEAH THAT TIMES IT'S MINUTES. THAT THEY SHOW UP. THEY GET HER OUT OF THERE. THEY TAKE HER WHERE SHE NEEDS TO GO. UM SO IT WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE. UH HI. ASSUME THAT THEIR CLIENT MESSED UP AND HE CAN'T GET OUT AND THE TRAFFIC BAD. THEN HE'S GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM. UH I BELIEVE THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT. DRAINAGES BLTS PROBLEM. UH, ACCESS. I'M SURE THEY GOT MORE THAN TWO ENTRANCES OR LIKE LEAST THREE ALONG CANTOR. THEY'VE GOT ONE ON MONTEREY. UM BUT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE BOARD, SO IF WE DENY THEM THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FORWARD. SO OKAY, WE, UM, SINCE YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT, OR WANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU SEATED, I'LL LET YOU HAVE THIS. BUT AFTER THIS, WE ALREADY ENDED PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE WILL BE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, OKAY? BYE. MY NAME IS KATHY HUDSON RESIDENT OF DAILY BEHAVIOR ALSO, UM, I FOUND IT INTERESTING. THAT THEY TOOK THE TIME TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS IN LOSERVILLE BACK IN APRIL. WE

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THERE WAS NO MEETING AT OUR CLUBHOUSE. AND THAT MEETING IN LEESVILLE TOOK PLACE IN APRIL, AND I THINK FOLKS START TO HEAD BACK. HOME UP NORTH. THEY ONLY HAD 43 ATTENDEES. SO I THINK THAT WAS A VERY LOW ATTENDANCE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK YOU GET FROM 43. PEOPLE WHEN THERE WERE 334 RESIDENCES, SO I FELT I REALLY FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE SAME COURTESY AND HAD A MEETING AT THE LA BAHIA. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, AND I THINK THE BIGGEST UM, UNKNOWN IS COSTCO. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS BRINGING AS FAR AS TRAFFIC. IT'S NOT JUST A COSTCO, THEIR TOWN HOMES PLAN THERE AS WELL. AND EVERYBODY COMING FROM PALM CITY IS EITHER COMING OVER THE MONTEREY BRIDGE OR THE I GUESS IT'S THE LINCOLN BRIDGE.

I'M KIND OF NEW UP HERE. UM AND IT FEEDS ON TO KENNER HIGHWAY. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING ACROSS CANADA HIGHWAY TO GO TO COSTCO. THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE IMMENSE. I KNOW IT'S A GREAT UNKNOWN. BUT I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS. SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE GREAT CONCEPT WOULD BE CONVENIENT FOR THE ELDERLY, ETCETERA, BUT I THINK IT'S THE WRONG LOCATION, AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD. TO THE COSTCO. I KNOW IT'S BEEN POSTPONED, BUT IT'S COMING. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN RESPONSE TO HER COMMENT ABOUT OUR TIMING FOR THE, UH, MEETING AT LEISURE VILLAGE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY. LET'S HEAR FROM LEISURE VILLAGE. AND SO I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST THEIR FOLKS AND STUFF. SO AGAIN, 300 SOME HOMES IN THERE, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY BEING BEING HERE FROM LEISURE VILLAGE. AND UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THERE, SO I THINK AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE FOLKS RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE MEETING PRETTY PRETTY CLOSE TO ALL OF THEM. HAD YOU MADE A DECISION NOT TO MEET WITH DELIVER HERE AND YOU'RE NOT THOUGHT OF IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ACROSS THE STREET. JUST CURIOUS. YEAH, BASICALLY AGAIN. YOU MEET WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS AND AGAIN THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY IT WAS WHO YOU'RE IMPACTING ON THE ON THAT DEAL AND THERE'S REAL. NO UM, REAL IMPACT FROM THE OPERATION OTHER THAN YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC. SURE AGAIN. NOBODY IS DENYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. BUT THE QUESTION IS THE AMOUNT BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO MEET WITH HIM, THOUGH, RIGHT? WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO MEET WITH US. WE'LL ALWAYS YOU KNOW, WILL NEVER SAY NO TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK TO HIM. AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE ANYBODY MY NAME AND NUMBER REALLY GIVE HIM A CARD AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ALWAYS DISCUSS.

ANYTHING. I'VE NEVER SAID NO TO ANYBODY. OKAY SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? REGARDING THIS PROJECT. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE ORDINANCE HAS PRESENTED ALL SECOND OKAY? MR BROMFIELD. YES. MEMBER, JOBY NO MEMBER FORBES YES, LORENE MEMBER MOTHERS? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF UPDATE. NOT AT THIS TIME. YOU ALRIGHT? THEN THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.