Feb 26, 2024 Regular City Commission Meeting

[ROLL CALL]

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WE'RE GOING TO START THIS MEETING. THANK YOU. WELCOME, EVERYONE. MARY ROCA. MAYOR BRUNER. YES MY RICH. YES COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES COLLINS? YES. HERE, COMMISSIONER MCDONALD HERE. AND UH, WE'RE GONNA STAND UP AND DO OUR INVOCATION. AND UH, PASTOR DARRYL, REMEMBER SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE FROM FIRST BAPTIST. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I STARTED LISTENING TO COUNTRY MUSIC AGAIN , SO MY WIFE THOUGHT I WAS HAVING A MIDLIFE CRISIS. SO FOR YOUR EDIFICATION I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST A HANDFUL REAL QUICKLY OF REAL COUNTRY MUSIC TITLES. OK I'M SO MISERABLE WITHOUT YOU. IT'S LIKE HAVING YOU HERE. PLEASE BYPASS THIS HEART. HOW CAN I MISS YOU IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY? I CHANGED YOUR OIL AND SHE CHANGED MY LIFE. AND THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. I WANNA WHIP YOUR COW. AND THEN FINALLY, IF MY NOSE WERE FULL OF NICKELS, I'D BLOW IT ALL ON YOU. CLOSE WITH THAT ONE. LET'S LET'S HAVE A WORD OF PRAYER. FATHER WE JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WE LOVE YOU TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE. WE ASK YOU TO POUR YOUR SPIRIT OUT IN THIS MEETING. AND FATHER. WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU GIVE WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AND INSTRUCTION. AND FATHER HELP EVERYONE TO HEAR CLEAR COMMUNICATION. AND LORD, WE ALSO WANNA ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD JUST TO BRING AN AWAKENING TO OUR NATION. AND SPECIFICALLY EVEN TO OUR COUNTY AND TO THE CITY. WE PRAY LORD THAT THERE'D BE JUST AN AWAKENING OF MORALITY AND HONESTY AND INTEGRITY AND LORD, JUST A SUPERNATURAL MOVEMENT OF YOUR SPIRIT. AND WE JUST WANNA TELL YOU WE LOVE YOU AND PRAISE YOU IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. AMEN. NOW WE DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHICH IS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THAT WE REFERRAL. OK DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH,

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

FOR THE CITY TO AT LEAST FUND. UM, A TABLE. AT THE NAACP. I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD BOTH STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE AT A PARTICULAR TABLE, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF OVERFLOW. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD GET STAFF AS WELL AS UM, COMMISSIONERS, IF ALL OF US TO ATTEND WITH A SPOUSE OR SOMEBODY, UM, BUT AT LEAST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE I WANNA MAKE THIS MOTION THAT WE FUND UH, AT LEAST A TABLE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TWO TABLES, I. I COULD ASKED THE CITY MANAGER. I THINK THEY HAD ACTUALLY GONE AND ASKED PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO GO BOTH STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS AND IF THERE'S AN OVERFLOW, I'D LIKE TO PROBABLY KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE TWO TABLES OR ONE TABLE OR HAVE THAT UP TO THE AMOUNT OF WHOEVER IS, UM, AVAILABLE TO ATTEND UP

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I WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO THE TAPE AND YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SAID YOU WOULD SAID I WOULD MAKE A MOTION AND THEN THE MAYOR CHIMED IN. AND WHEN I TOLD THE MAYOR THAT THE MAYOR COULDN'T MAKE THE MOTION THAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID. THERE WAS SOME OTHER DISCUSSION THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH RELATED TO JUST GETTING OUR OWN TICKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN IT WASN'T FOLLOWED UP WITH A MOTION. SO THE POSITION I WOULD TAKE IS THAT I LOOKED AT LAST YEAR, THE CITY MANAGER HAD OR THE COMMISSION HAD VOTED TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER PART A TABLE AT THE EVENT. UM I HAD IN ANTICIPATION OF THE COMMISSION. UM HAVING ME PURCHASE A TABLE HAD STARTED TO ASK STAFF. IF THERE WERE ANYBODY THAT INTERESTED IN GOING IN THE EVENT, CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS OR THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHERS COULDN'T ATTEND WITH THEM. AND I DID GET SOME EXPRESSION FROM SOME STAFF MEMBERS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD, IN FACT BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING. SO IF THE IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ME TO GET A TABLE FOR THE COMMISSION. I WOULD NEED I WOULD NEED A MOTION. AND SECOND IN A VOTE TO GET A TABLE. UM FOR THE AND IT'S A 10 SEATS. SO IT'S EACH COMMISSIONER. GET TWO TICKETS. IF I DID THAT, AND YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GO, YOU COULD HAVE TWO CHOICES. YOU COULD GIVE THE TICKETS BACK TO ME AND HAVE ME GIVE THEM TO STAFF OR YOU COULD GIVE THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT WAS INTERESTED IN GOING AND THEN IF YOU WANTED ME TO, UM GET A SECOND TABLE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH STAFF MEMBERS AND GIVE THE, UH IT WOULD BE FIVE TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'D PROBABLY BRING A GUEST SO IT'D BE FIVE PEOPLE TO ATTEND AND FILL THE SECOND TABLE. AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING TO JIMMY SMITH, WHO IS HERE AND HE WAS FILLING ME IN ON, UM ALL THE ACTIVITY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND HIGHLY ATTENDED EVENT WITH PLENTY OF ENTERTAINMENT AND WE WILL EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE JIMMY ON THE DANCE FLOOR FOR ANYBODY WILLING TO GO. WELL, THAT'S WORTH IT RIGHT THERE. SO I SHOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR UP TO TWO TABLES. THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION, BUT YES, THAT IS MY MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND IT ALL RIGHT? WE, UM. HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, UM YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CONCERNING THE GALA? I SEE NONE. MARY. YEAH. CAN CAN I JUST ASK WHAT? HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA COST? YES, I DO. IT'S UH $1200 FOR A TABLE OR 1250 IF THE TICKETS WERE BOUGHT SEPARATELY. THERE'S 24 ON 22 I MISQUOTE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK Y'ALL. UH UM UH, LET ME GIVE YOU A NAME AND, UH JIMMY SMITH, PRESIDENT E, NAACP BRANCH MINE COUNTY. I. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. WOW THAT, UH, I INVITE THE CITY TO BE A PART OF THIS, BECAUSE, UM, ORDER FOR US TO REALLY BRING THIS CITY TO BE THE BEST CITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE ASKED TO LOOK BEYOND SO MANY THINGS, AND THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE TOGETHER. THIS IS ABOUT THE YOUTH. THE KIDS, OUR FUTURE. THAT WE CAN GRASP A HOLD THAT WE CAN UNITE ALL KIDS TOGETHER BEING DIVERSITY HERE IN STEWART, UM THE THEME THIS YEAR IS WHERE WERE OUR KID FUTURE? BE LIKE WITHOUT YOUR VOTE VOTE ME IN PARTICIPATION INVOLVING THE SCHOOLS, THE KIND OF THE CITY WHATEVER COULD PERTAIN TO OUR KIDS. UH, WHETHER IN THE CHURCHES, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS WORLD IS IF WE DON'T CAPTURE TOGETHER AND JOIN TOGETHER AND HOLD HANDS TOGETHER . UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR FUTURE IS. STEWART WOULD BE AND A CPA. LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT AC P IS ON A BLACK ORGANIZATION ONLY. NO IT'S A NATURAL ADVANCE MINISTER FOR ASSOCIATION OF COLORED PEOPLE. I JUST WANNA ASK YOU EVERYBODY JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST THAT FOR YOU. LOOK AT SOMEBODY TO THE RIGHT OF YOU. YOU FIND SOMEBODY THE SAME COLOR YOU ARE SO WE ALL GOT A COLOR. AND FROM OUR HEART AND LOVING TO SEE MY CITY COMMISSIONERS THAT DOING A GREAT JOB, UNITED GOVERNMENT AND COMMON SUPPORT AND WE CAN, UH, MEET AND, UH, DO GREAT THINGS TOGETHER. WE GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS TO BRING TO THE CITY STUART. I WAS SHARING WITH SOME OF THEM EARLIER, AND I THINK YOU ALL GONNA BE VERY PROUD OF WHAT SHE'S GONNA BRING IT TO UNITE. TO UNITE ALL TOGETHER. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I HAVE ALWAYS INTENDED TO PURCHASE MY OWN TICKET. SO, UH, MR MORTEAU. MY TICKET COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO STAFF. THE, UH ANY

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COMMISSIONER MCDONALD COMMISSIONER COLLINS. COMMISSIONER CLARK MAYOR BRUNER.

YES, VICE MAYOR RICH YES. VERY GOOD ALL IN FAVOR. YOU HAVE DIRECTIONS, MR MORTEL? YES, I DO. UM. MADAM MAY I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THAT, MISS? UM HELEN MCBRIDE IS HERE ALL THE TIME. WELL WE HAVE A PROGRAM AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER, WHICH THE MEALS AND WHEELS COMES OUT THERE AND PARTICIPATE, AND I THINK ONE OF OUR LONGEST MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. UH, M. WILLIE MAYS HAS PASSED AWAY AND SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUT THERE FOR THE TIME THAT THEY'VE HAD THE MEALS AND WHEELS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I JUST WANNA, UM, JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THIS WONDERFUL LADY FROM THE ESPECIALLY FROM THE EAST ST COMMUNITY AND HAS WORKED AT ZILLA, CABBAGE FARMS AND OTHER AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND, UH, HE IS NO LONGER WITH US AND I. I JUST KNOW THAT THAT PROGRAM OUT THERE STRIVE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE HER AND MISS UM HELEN MCBRIDE AND OTHERS WHO ATTEND THE LUNCH PROGRAM THERE. UM AND MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD WANT TO SAY OTHER THINGS, BUT I THINK THAT IT'LL PROBABLY COME IN OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS BECAUSE I JUST HAD PHONE CALLS BEFORE THE MEETING REGARDING, UM, UH BRIGHT LINE AND ARTICLES THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND AS OF THIS AFTERNOON OR TODAY, BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE THOSE COMMENTS UNTIL IF THEY COME UP WITH ANYBODY ELSE, UM AND, UH, THAT'S IT AND ANYTHING ELSE WITH REGARD TO THE AGENDA ALSO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MR COLLINS, BUT YOU GOT TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY BRIGHT LIGHT NOW. OH, THE SHARKS. WAS TRYING TO AVOID IT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO I DID IT EVEN THOUGH BRIGHT LINES GOING ON, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WATER. I KNOW ALL OF US ARE VERY AWARE THAT SINCE THE LAST MEETING DISCHARGES HAVE BEGUN AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY FIRST OFF THAT I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED THAT, UH MOST OF US WERE THERE AT THE RIVERS COALITION MEETING WITH COLONEL BOOTH AND YOU KNOW.

CONGRESSMAN MASS WAS THERE. IT WAS JUST SO GREAT TO SEE, UH MOST OF US WERE THERE, AND EVEN ONE OF THE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR CITY COMMISSION WAS THERE, SO WE WERE WELL REPRESENTED IN THAT WENT A LONG WAY IN THAT ROOM WHEN PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AROUND AND SEEING HOW HOW, UH, PRESENT THE CITY OF STUART WAS INCLUDING OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. SO IT SAID A LOT TO OUR COMMITMENT TO, UH, WATER QUALITY. AND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY FIRST IS, THOUGH I AM FOREVER COMMITTED TO ZERO DISCHARGES, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE ONCE LOOM IS GOING FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. TO HAVE THE WATER QUALITY OF OUR ESTUARY. HOPEFULLY ONE DAY CONSIDERED BY A FEDERAL JUDGE. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT BATTLE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS VERY OBVIOUS WITH DISCHARGES IS THE FIGHT FOR LOATHSOME. AND UH, WHEN I SAY THAT I'LL REFERENCE. UH, CONGRESSMAN MAST WHO, UH, BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT AT THAT RIVERS COALITION MEETING WHEN HE SAID TO COLONEL BOOTH, YOU KNOW, IN A MILITARY SETTING, I WOULD NEVER GO INTO A BATTLE WITH AN OLD MAP, YOU KNOW? AND HE SAID THAT TO COLONEL BOOTH, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY WELL SAID, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY CONFUSING THE SITUATION WE'RE IN WHERE WE'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN LOWERS EIGHT AND LONESOME. ACCORDING TO YOU KNOW, EVEN MAJOR BELL WHEN I GOT TO TALK WITH HIM. WE ARE UNDER LAWS WITH THE SPIRIT OF LOATHSOME. BUT, UM. WE'RE FACING DISCHARGES, THE LAKE HAS BEEN BEING KEPT DEEPER. IE LOOM. BUT WITH THE WET WEATHER AND THE CURRENT EL NINO THAT I DON'T KNOW. ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS KIND OF EVENT THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE SCHIZOPHRENIC REVERTED BACK TO LOS EIGHT STYLE DISCHARGES, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE ALL FACING TAKING ON THE CHIN.

I'M SURE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM THE CORE AND THE SOUTH FOR WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE AROUND THE LAKE. UM. DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE COURT TO CARRY THAT MUCH WATER IN THEIR LAKE. BUT THAT IS THE DEAL THAT WE HAVE SIGNED. UH WE JUST NEED LOOM TO BE ADOPTED. SO AFTER YEARS OF THIS PROCESS PROCESS WE EVER. MORE THAN EVER

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AND THIS IS SORT OF THE CONTEXT OF WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS FOR IS TO ENCOURAGE THE CORE. TO TRULY OPERATE. UNDER LOATH SOME GUIDELINES KEEPING MORE WATER IN THE LAKE AGAIN LOOKING AT THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THE ABILITY OF OUR RIVER TO CLEAN ITSELF IE THE OYSTERS, YOU KNOW, NEAR SHORE REEFS. EVERYTHING THAT BEN KNOWS TO RIDE IN. THERE HAS BEEN IN HERE OR HAS BEEN AT BUT SECONDARILY TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. WE ALL NEED RIGHT NOW, MORE THAN EVER FOR THESE GUYS TO BE OUR ADVOCATES. HAS A BOARD BEING VERY VOCAL IN LOOM GETTING ADOPTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO IF YOU GUYS WERE OPEN TO IT, I WOULD LOVE FOR A LETTER TO GO NOW THAT DISCHARGES HAVE FORMALLY STARTED. UH, TO THE CORE AND ALSO TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AGAIN BEN. I'M SURE CAN CRAFT REALLY GREAT LANGUAGE HERE. THAT'S VERY GRACIOUS. UH, BUT I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. NOW MORE THAN EVER. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERESTS JUST LIKE A LOT OF THE INTERESTS OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THE LAKE. ARE BEING HEARD. SO THAT LOOM CAN GO FORWARD, WHICH I KNOW WE ALL FEEL LIKE IS A DONE DEAL. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. AND SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE NOW FACING DISCHARGES AND THE CONFUSION AROUND WHAT MAP? WE'RE FOLLOWING LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONGRESSMAN MASS SAID, I THINK MAKES EVIDENT THAT WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THE CORE AND THE DISTRICT TO REMEMBER US. AND REMEMBER OUR ESTUARY, THE BIODIVERSITY AND ALL OF IT. SO WITH THAT, ARE YOU THANK YOU. NO OBJECTION. YES, I AGREE. THANK YOU GUYS. ANYMORE. QUESTION. NO.

RICH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT A CORRECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. AND THIS ERROR OCCURRED AT OUR LAST JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, THE OTHER CITIES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND AT THAT TIME A REPORT WAS MADE ABOUT. RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WERE EITHER PERMITTED OR IN PROCESS, UH, APPLICATIONS AND PROCESS. AND THOSE OF US IN THE CITIES IN STUART WERE QUITE HAPPY TO SEE THE BIG NUMBERS ZERO COME UP WITH REGARD TO 2023 IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF NEW UNITS APPROVED OR IN PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY WAS INCORRECT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, IT, UM IT WAS FROM JULY 1ST TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO I JUST WANTED TO CREATE THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR 2023 IS THE TOTAL OF NUMBER OF NEW UNITS APPROVED IN THE CITY OF STUART WAS 60. UM FOR A DEVELOPMENT ON CENTRAL PARKWAY. SELFISH K. YEAH, HOMEOWNERSHIP. THE TOTAL FOR THE NUMBER JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE, AND THE REASON I WANT TO MAKE THIS CORRECTION JUST BECAUSE I STILL GET A GREAT MANY PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND SAY THE CITY IS OUT OF CONTROL WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS. THE COUNTY APPROVED OR ARE IN PROCESS 5911. INDIAN TOWN. WELL I MEAN, NOT PORTAL BUT BOOMING LITTLE INDIAN TOWN. 2970. SO IN MARTIN COUNTY.

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 8861 UNITS APPROVED RESIDENTIAL UNITS APPROVED OR IN PROCESS. OUR 60.

REPRESENTS. TWO THIRDS OF 1% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS APPROVED. SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE. IN THE CITY. UM ON ANOTHER NOTE. I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE INVITED AND WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION FOR PROJECT L AND I HAD NEVER DONE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND DOCTOR. IS. IS HE A DOCTOR? DOCTOR ROBERT ROBERT ZAC FOR PUTTING ON A VERY ENTHUSIASTIC, UM, GRADUATION CEREMONY. THIS IS A TERRIFIC EXAMPLE. I THINK OF A

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IN FACT, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? MR MOTEL? WE THROUGH OUR CR A HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY TENTATIVELY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. WE HAVE A APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED. A VERY SUCCESSFUL GRANT. THAT'S ALLOWED US TO ACQUIRE SOME PROPERTY, WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE WILLIE GARY PROPERTY. UH, ON MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, WHICH WE CLOSED ON AND ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF NOW. AND WE'RE WORKING FORWARD ON ENTERING INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROJECT. WHICH WILL END UP PROVIDING A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THAT SITE. THAT'LL BE BRAND NEW LANDSCAPE AND BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED TO TRAIN 18 TO 25 YEAR OLDS IN THE TRADES OF CARPENTRY, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL PLUMBING, ET CETERA, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY BOB ZAC'S TEXTBOOK THAT WE'LL BE STEALING. AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL THIS FAR, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM. AND BOY, I SURE WISH MY GRADUATION HAD BEEN THAT MUCH FUN. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE, UH, GRADUATION. BUT AS, UH, SOMEONE WHO CAME TO THE VOCATIONAL PROCESS IN HIGH SCHOOL. UH I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE TRADE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GONNA CREATE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE HIGHER PAYING JOBS AND YOU KNOW, IN HIGHER PAYING JOB MEANS A BETTER STANDARD OF LIVING AND A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR NOT JUST THAT PERSON, BUT THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. PEOPLE THAT HAVE HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE HAVE MORE HEALTHY. UH, SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, AND I'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR QUITE A WHILE AND OUR CR DID A GREAT JOB GETTING THE GRANT? UH, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE TODAY ON AT TODAY'S NPO MEETING. UM I WAS REAL. WE DID. THERE'S A SERIES OF PROCEDURAL STEPS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR FUNDING OF PROJECTS, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND TODAY WAS ONE OF THOSE PROCEDURAL. WE PROVED THE UH UH, WE APPROVED THE, UH, WORK PLAN. AND. WHAT WAS, UH, NICE TO SEE ON THERE, AND THIS IS, UH, PRIORITIES. AND ACTUALLY, THE OUR MP O PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND IT WAS 19 PRIORITIES AND FIVE OF THEM WERE IN THE CITY OF STUART, INCLUDING, UH, YOU KNOW, SIX OF THEM. SORRY SIX OF THEM WERE IN THE CITY OF STUART AND A COUPLE OF THEM ARE PRETTY AMBITIOUS. BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IMPROVING OUR TRANSPORTATION, IMPROVING OUR ROADS, PROVING OUR TRAFFIC.

UH IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN OVER THE YEARS AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT'S UH AND IT'S REALLY GOOD. SEE THESE PROJECTS KIND OF GETTING THROUGH BECAUSE GETTING ON THE PRIORITIES IS WHAT ULTIMATELY GETS THEM FUNDED BY FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. UH AND THEN THEY GET IN THAT EVENTUALLY THEY'LL GET A FI THEY'LL GET FUNDED FOR, UH, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT. BUT THAT WAS I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT, UH HAPPEN THAT WE HAVE SO MANY CONSIDERING THE CITY OF STEWART IS ONLY SEVEN SQUARE MILES OUT OF ABOUT 500 SQUARE MILES OF, UH, MARTIN COUNTY. AND OF COURSE, I THINK MR MORTEL LATER TALKED ABOUT. I'M SURE HE'LL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BRIGHT LINE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY. UM SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

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AND IT WAS CONGRESSMAN MASK IN THAT PARTICULAR, UH, INSTANCE THAT TOLD US THAT HE HAD HELPED US SECURE THE FUNDING FOR THAT GRANT, HOWEVER. WE DIDN'T GET A LETTER UNTIL ALMOST THE END OF JANUARY FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF OR THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. IS IT RELATED TO THAT GRANT? AND IT TRULY WASN'T OFFICIAL UNTIL WE GOT THAT PARTICULAR LETTER. SO I . I CAN'T OFFICIALLY SAY THAT I HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN ANYBODY ELSE OTHER THAN I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION. THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT WOULD BE MADE AT AND I WOULD REALLY BE SURPRISED THAT THERE WOULD BE A SUGGESTION THAT WE BE INVITED TO THAT LOCATION TO TELL US WE WERE THE WRONG APPLICATION. YES. THAT WOULDN'T BE SO GREAT. BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE ON IT. OK,

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]

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HUTTON ON THE RIVER IN THE BOATHOUSE ARE OWNED BY THE SAME GENTLEMAN. HE BUILT BOATHOUSE AND HE'S USED IN OUR CITY PARKING LOT. NOW HE BUILT HUDSON ON THE RIVER, AND NOW HE WANTS TO TAKE THE PUBLIC PARKING THAT WHOLE AREA DOWN, UH, BY HIS BY THE BRIDGE, THE FISHERMEN YOU'VE GOT TO STOP RE ELECTED FIVE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT WE, THE PEOPLE AND I'M UP WITH THE BUSINESS PEOPLE. YOU KNOW THAT I WAS HERE WHEN THIS WAS THE GHOST TOWN, THE DOWNTOWN. I'M I'M FOR THE BUSINESS PEOPLE, BUT NOT ON THE BACK OF THE ORDINARY PERSON WHO LIKES TO GO. OR LIKE MYSELF WHEN I HAVE JOSEPH OF DISNEY, BUT THEY GO DOWN TO WATCH THE TRAINS AND WE WALK THEM AND HE LIKES TO SIT THERE AND WATCH A BRIDGE. GO UP AND DOWN. YOU'VE GOT TO READDRESS IT. YOU'VE GOT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AND NOT JUST ONE BUSINESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM. I HAD SAID AT THE LAST MEETING. I WOULD, UH, SPEAK WITH HELEN AND I HAVE AND, UH, GOING DOWN THERE MANY TIMES I DO BELIEVE AS AS THE MAYOR, MAY I BRINGS UM, WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION SOMETIME OR THE YOU CAN. YOU CAN DISCUSS WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. YOU'RE THE MAYOR. OK, UM BECAUSE IT IS IT IS A REAL CONCERN. I. I UH MY FIRST THOUGHTS WE HUDSON WAS GOING IN. WERE THOSE THREE PARKING SPACES FOR THE, UH, FISHERMEN. THE RAILROAD TRACK IS TAKING IT OVER. I'VE GONE DOWN THERE ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND, UM EIGHT OR NINE AT NIGHT. UM THE FISHERMEN. A LOT OF THEM FISH, UH, ON THE OLD ROOSEVELT, AND THEY'LL PARK ON BOTH SIDES OR THEY'LL PARK. UH, UH, AND GO DOWN UNDER THE PARK ON ON. AND, UM MY GOODNESS. I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT. THE WHOLE US V DIXIE AND GO DOWN UNDER AND GET TO THE, UH, BOARDWALK, BUT, UM AND I AGREE. THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST GIVE THEIR UM ARE OLD CAR OR THE NEW CAR OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DRIVING. HE'S A FISHERMAN. MY NEPHEW GOES DOWN THERE AND FISHES ALL THE TIME. AND HE'S A YOUNG MAN. AND HE CAN , UH, YOU KNOW, PARK OVER WITH THE BATHROOMS OR FURTHER DOWN, BUT IT IS IT IT IT, UM I AGREE.

FOR HE OWNS BOTH BOTH OF THE RESTAURANTS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ASK, AND IT HASN'T. UH, IT HASN'T FALL. IT'S FALLEN THROUGH IT IT IT'S NOT WORKING. SO IF WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION OR WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK, UH, BUT THE RAILROAD HAS TAKEN THOSE FIRST THREE PARKING PLACES AND TAKE IT DOWN THE SIGNS THAT WE HAD FOR THE FISHERMEN THAT THAT WAS THEIR PARKING SPOT. UH, MIKE? WHAT WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT AGREEMENT? WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO EVEN AMEND. WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE? KIND OF REFRESHING TO ME BECAUSE I WASN'T THAT DEAL WAS BEFORE I EVEN GOT HERE. I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT THE LOGISTICS ARE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PULLED THE FISHERMEN TO SEE IF THEY WERE RESIDENTS OF STEWART OR CUSTOMERS OF STEWART REALLY ARE HOW THEY GET MATTERS. BUT WHEN THE COMMIT WHEN THE UH, RESTAURANT WAS OPENING. I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER WAS DAVID DI AT THE TIME, BUT HE PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON TO THAT PARKING LOT THE SAME WAY THAT WE

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AND WHAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS WAS SAILOR RETURNS. THEY SAID SAILOR RETURN IS GONNA PROVIDE VALET PARKING AND ANYBODY CAN PARK THERE AND THEY CAN'T CHARGE TO VALET AND ANYBODY CAN PARK THERE AND WALK THE BOARDWALK AND GO FISHING OFF THE SIDES OR WHATEVER. AND THEN, ON THE OTHER SIDE, PEOPLE CAN PARK ON DIXIE AND UP THE FISH TO FISH. THERE'S A FISHING PIER THAT GOES DIRECTLY OFF UNDERNEATH THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. WHEN THE COMMISSION VOTED TO ALLOW HUDSON'S TO HAVE VALET PARKING. IT WAS CONDITIONED UPON. IT HAD TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND ANYBODY COULD PARK THERE AND THEY CAN'T CHARGE FOR VALET. AND AT THE TIME I BELIEVE IT WAS THE FIRST THREE SPACES WERE DEDICATED TO FISHERMEN ON THE BRIDGE. ABOUT I THINK IT WAS AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. THE FEC. NO. THAT THE FEC NOTIFIED UH, US. THAT IT WAS REVOKING. THOSE TWO PARKING SPACES AND RESERVING THEM. FOR THE. RAILROAD BRIDGE TENDERS THAT WERE ALSO A REQUIREMENT. UM. THAT HAPPENED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS PART OF THE MARTIN COUNTY ARRANGEMENT. WITH, UM, THE RAILROAD. SO THE FIRST TWO SPACES ARE NOW DEDICATED TO THIS. UM UH, FEC RAILROAD.

BRIDGE TENDERS. THE THIRD SPACE I BELIEVE, IS STILL DEDICATED TO THE FISHERMEN. BUT THEN IT GOES TO THE, UH, VALET SPOTS THAT THE COMMISSION HAD VOTED ON HOW MANY OF THOSE SPOTS ARE TIED UP IN THE BALLET? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU VALET IT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY ADD ABOUT 25% MORE CARS BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY PARK THEM RIGHT ON THE SPACES BECAUSE OF VALETS. THEY PARK THEM TIGHTER, BUT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. YOU DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL NUMBER OF SPOTS. I HONESTLY DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THE BOARD COULD NOT DO IT. OR WE COULD MEND IT. THE BOARD COULD DIRECT ME TO ADD. TWO MORE SPACES. FOR THE FISHERMEN. AND I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW. YOU KNOW? MY EXPERIENCE WITH FISHING IS THAT WHEN THE TIDE IS CHANGING. IS AND FISHING IS BETTER THAN WHEN IT'S SLACK. AND SO AS A RESULT, THE FISHERMEN ARE THERE VERY IT'S A MOVING SCHEDULE BECAUSE AS THAT SIX HOUR TIDE SWING CHANGES IT.

SHIFTS WHEN THE HOT FISHING IS AND FISHING TOMORROW MIGHT BE AT 10 A.M. AND THEN THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, IT MIGHT BE A 10 P.M. OR 8, P.M. OR 6, P.M. OR WHATEVER. I THINK THE VALET PARKING THIS THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SO BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, BUT YOU GUYS COULD ALSO ADDRESS THAT AND YOU COULD SAY YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ON THIS DAY OR IT IS ON THAT DAY. AND COULD WE COULD WE ACTUALLY MAKE IT A AD AND D? POTENTIALLY IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT IT. I'D LIKE TO. WELL THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT SHE HAD ASKED ME FOR. NOT SURE ENOUGH ALL OF THIS TIME RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DO IT. I COULD BRING IT BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON WITH THE NEW RESOLUTION. FOR AD AND D. WHATEVER IS YOUR REFERENCE? I MEAN, IF I IF I BRING IT UP AS A RESOLUTION, AND YOU DON'T VOTE TO CHANGE IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER, SO IT'S PROBABLY EASIER JUST TO DO IT AS A RESOLUTION. WE CAN AMEND IT AT THAT MOMENT. IF YOU'RE INCLINED, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. IF YOU ALL ARE OK, AND COULD I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? ME. I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THE CONCERNS OF THE FISHERMEN, BUT I ASKED A HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR DECADES. AND I SAID, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE BALLET IS AVAILABLE TO YOU? WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE HUT, AND THEY THEY HAD NO IDEA. NOBODY HAS ANY IDEA THAT THAT VALET IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, SO IT'S DE FACTO HANDING THEM ALL AND WHEN PEOPLE SEE CONES THERE. YOU KNOW? ALL ALL THEY SEE IS THAT THEY'RE THOSE ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THEM . SO WE'VE GOT MORE PROBLEMS THAN JUST THESE. AND YES, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. SO HOW SOON IS IT GONNA COME BACK WITH MORE? UM, I WAS THINKING NEXT NOVEMBER. I'M KIDDING. OH, COME ON. IT'LL BE THE NEXT MEETING. MAN YOU GUYS ARE TOUGH. DON'T MESS WITH THAT ONE. NO AND HELEN HELEN, YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S MANY MORE CONES OUT NOW THAN THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE WILL BE.

IT'LL BE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. WE HAVE A MOTION, MR MARTEL. WE SHOULD NOTIFY, UH,

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LET HIM KNOW AND THERE ARE TENANTS. SO OUR GREAT CONCERNS. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? MAKE ANY COMMENTS. WAS THERE A MOTION? I'M SORRY I MISSED AN IT WAS THEY JUST GAVE ME A CONSENSUS. THERE WAS NO DON'T. OH, OK, OK. ALL RIGHT, JIM, WE WE'LL MOVE ON. THE JOHN B. PLEASE COME FORWARD. I DO THE MR. IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, YEAH.

HELLO. MY NAME IS SEAN REED. UH, THIS ONE'S FOR COMMISSIONER RICH. SO THE CITY OF STUART'S 8.5 SQUARE MILES AND MARTIN COUNTY 753 SQUARE MILES TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU AS FAR AS WHAT MARTIN COUNTY IS APPROVED. WE'RE ALSO IN THE CITY OF STUART. I'M MARTIN COUNTY SO UM, ALSO, I WANNA TALK ABOUT JUST BEING BORN AND RAISED HERE. MY NAME IS SEAN REED. I WAS BORN IN MARTIN COUNTY. BEEN HERE FOR 34 YEARS. OF MY FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS. A LOT OF US ARE VERY PROUD COMING FROM THIS AREA, AND I LOOK AT THE COMMISSION AND WE ALL MOVE HERE FOR A REASON, RIGHT? WE WANT TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. WE WANT TO VOTE TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE'S BEEN A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT OBVIOUSLY AFFECT TRAFFIC. NOW WE HAVE A BRIGHT LINE STATION COMING IN. I WOULD IMAGINE EVERYBODY SITTING UP HERE DOESN'T LIKE DRIVING IN THE CITY OF STUART. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN AGREE WITH THAT. I KNOW I CAN'T AND I DRIVE AROUND QUITE A BIT. I'D IMAGINE MOST OF YOU DO UP HERE AS WELL.

UM ALSO NOW WE HAVE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THEY FINALLY WANT TO FIX. WE HAVE APPROVED 2250 APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES. IT DIDN'T FIX IT, DID IT? NOW, EVERYBODY IN THIS CROWD WANTS TO FIX IT AND EVERYBODY WANTS IT UNTIL IT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT IT. I'M I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF US WANT TO FIX IT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT NEXT TO US, RIGHT? UM AND THEN WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? LOSE MORE BASEBALL FIELDS AGAIN? BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO DEVELOP THAT THEN AS WELL. YOU KNOW, AS A CHILD HERE WE USED TO PLAY OUTSIDE. RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE . THEY'RE GONNA GET RAN DOWN BY A CAR. I'D IMAGINE I DRIVE AROUND IN NEIGHBORHOODS. I DON'T SEE KIDS. WE HAVE TO TRAVEL TO GO TO A PARK NOW TO EVEN PLAY TO ENJOY WHAT WE HAVE. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE BATHTUB BEACH ANYMORE.

I'D IMAGINE SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN THERE AS A KID. I WENT THERE QUITE A BIT.

YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT ANYMORE. UM I'M HOPING COME AUGUST 20TH. WE'LL SEE SOME CHANGE IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. MR BRINKLEY, ALBERT BRINKLEY. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE. UH, MY NAME IS ALBERT BRINKLEY PROUD RESIDENT. UP EAST OF A COMMUNITY. I'M HERE WITH THE MATTER THAT I WAS TO THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON FRIDAY. TO GET AN APPLICATION. WELL RIGHT AWAY ABANDONMENT.

WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM. WHEN IT CAME TO THE PRICES THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU I AM HIGHLY UPSET. YOU WANNA KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THE CITY OF STOOD RAN DRAINAGE PIPES. THROUGH MY PROPERTY. AND TO THIS DAY IT'S ALMOST 30 YEARS. NO ONE HAS GIVEN ME AN ANSWER. WHY WERE THOSE PIPES WENT THROUGH MY PROPERTY? AND I END UP WITH SOME PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HAD, WHICH IS A LOT SMALLER THAN THE PROPERTY THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD MY HOUSE ON ON TOP AVENUE WITH MR SMITH AND HAVE THE PROPERTY NOW. NOBODY HAVE GIVEN ME AN ANSWER. BUT YET FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT I'M TRYING TO GET. I HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU OWE NOT SPECIFICALLY TALKING TO YOU ALL THAT THE CITY CREATED WITH ME. THAT'S A RIGHT RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE THAT I RIGHTFULLY SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THE PROPERTY THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD ON CARP AVENUE. IT'S A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT I HAVE NOW. AND NOBODY TO THIS DAY AND AGAIN. I REITERATE IT ALMOST 30 YEARS AND NOBODY HAS GIVEN ME AN ANSWER. WHY WERE THE DRAINAGE PIPES RAN THROUGH MY PROPERTY BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? AND THAT WAS MY PROBLEM WHERE MY HOUSE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN BUILT. AND WHEN I CAME AND GOT THE PAPER RIGHT FRIDAY TO FILL OUT FOR THE ABANDONMENT RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE THAT I'M CONFRONTED WITH MR BRINK THAT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU . IT SHOULDN'T COST ME NOTHING BECAUSE YOU ALL BASICALLY AS I

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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY YOU STILL CURRENTLY OWN. OR IS IT A PROPERTY YOU USED TO OWN THAT HAD THE PIPES UNDER IT. HAS IN HIS MIND IT RUNS I FROM TOP ONE BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MY HOUSE WAS GONNA GO THERE. BUT DO YOU STILL OWN IT IF I LIVE UP IN THAT STATE OF HAVE THE LOT WHERE THE PIPES WENT THROUGH, BUT THAT WHOLE LOT WAS MY PROPERTY. AND WHERE THE CITY RAN THE PIPES THROUGH. IT'S KIND OF IT'S BLOCKED OFF. BUT WHERE THE PIPES RAN AT THAT WHOLE SITUATION WAS WHERE MY HOUSE WAS GONNA GO. I BELIEVE IT'S STORMWATER. BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME THE ADDRESS OF WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS? I DON'T WELL, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK WITH ME BECAUSE HE'S MORE FAMILIAR. I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS WHAT IT IS ON TOP END AVENUE. AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE SEAT WHERE I AM NOW THE CITY ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE THINGS GOT SWITCHED. BUT WHERE I AM NOW. IT'S SMALLER. THE WAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN MIKE, DO WE HAVE THE DISCRETION TO WAIVE HIS FEES FOR HIS APPLICATION? FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE INTERNET? YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO WAIVE THE PRIVILEGE FEE. FOR THE WAY, WAY WAY. ABANDON THAT. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY ABANDONMENT AT THIS POINT TO COMMENT ON IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT FEES WERE QUOTED. UM, AT THE VIEW IT BUT BUT IT WAS MY RECOLLECTION THAT BACK THEN, AND I WASN'T HERE. BUT DIDN'T THE CITY GIVE YOU THE HOUSE AND PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE LIVING IN NOW IN EXCHANGE FOR IT? THIS. HOW YEAH. NO WHAT? WHAT WHAT? HA! WHAT HAPPENED? THE HOUSE. MY HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY WENT THERE. AND WHEN THE PIPES GOT PUT ON THAT PROPERTY. THEN I HAD TO END UP WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HEY, THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW WAS ORIGINALLY WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT BEEN, BUT DIDN'T THEY GIVE? I AM BUT THE CITY BUILT THE HOUSE AND MADE YOU WHOLE THEN, RIGHT? HE SAID. HE BUILT THAT IT WAS IT WAS WHAT? THAT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS MOVED. THAT HOUSE GOT TORN DOWN CLOSE THE CITY. ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT DID CREATE IT, DIG A CROWD SPACE AND THAT CREATE IT BECAUSE WHERE I AM NOT THAT WHOLE AREA. I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID THAT ALWAYS BEEN A LOW LYING AREA. THAT AREA WHERE I AM HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE LINE EVER SINCE I WAS A KID. IN OTHER WORDS, IT HOLDS WATER AND WHAT WHAT CREATED WAS WATER. STAY UP UNDER MY HOUSE, SO I HAD TO REVEAL THAT THE HOUSE HAD TO BE TORN DOWN AND REBUILT. OK WHERE WHERE I AM NOW, BUT THE BUT THE PROPERTY WILL SWITCH. YOU ALL END UP WITH THE PROPERTY WHERE I SUPPOSED HAD BEEN, AND I END UP WITH THE PROPERTY WHERE THE CITY HAD OWNED AND RIGHT AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION TO HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. ABANDONED. UH, THAT'S A PART OF YOUR PROPERTY BEHIND IT, OR IN FRONT OF IT BEHIND. THAT'S THE FEE THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING THAT THAT FEE IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WELL, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. JUST FOR CLARITY, AND I JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AND THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME, TOO, BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE UM E, STEWART FUTURE LAND USE. THERE WAS SOME SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAD BEEN UM DISENGAGING FROM SOME RIGHT OF WAYS AND THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL HAD TO BOARD UM DISCUSS THE ABANDONMENT OF RIGHT OF WAYS AND THE AND THE BOARD VOTED THAT THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE MAINTAINING THOSE RIGHT OF WAYS AND NOT TO ABANDON THEM BECAUSE THEY COULD BE USED AS FUTURE PEDESTRIAN PATHS AND OTHER THINGS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY ADOPTED IN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN THAT FORM BASED CODE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE

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IT'S JUST BEHIND FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES DON'T LEAD TO NOWHERE. IT DOESN'T LEAD TO NOWHERE. AND IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I GET PUT IN THIS SITUATION AND HAVE TO DOLE OUT MONEY WHEN ORIGINALLY YOU ALL PUT PIPES THROUGH MY PROPERTY. I JUST DON'T IN THE S OF GUY. I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THAT BEING FAIR. IT'S NOT FAIR. SEND ME THE INFO, OK? IT TO ME, AND WE'LL SORT IT OUT. YES, WE WILL MOVE ON NOW. JIMMY SMITH, MR SMITH. THANK YOU VERIFY. I THINK THE PROPER HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I THINK MY FATHER BOUGHT WHEN YOUR FEET ARE THAT PROPERTY, UH, THEY'RE OFF TOP, UH, 10 FT. WE REMAIN THE SAME FOR THAT THE CITY HAD A DRAINAGE RUNNING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.

UH I DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT MY STEPMOTHER OWNED THE PROPERTY. THINGS ARE FOR SALE.

UH, I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? WAIT AGAIN. UH I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT TERM, BUT I'M HERE TO JUST TALK ON. UH UH UH, THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE GETTING A YOUNG MAN WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE HOUSING. UH, EVERYBODY'S.

TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC THIS AND THAT. ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. STUART BEING ALL OUR LIVES. MAY RATTLESNAKE AND DIRT ROADS. AND WE WATCH OUR COMMUNITIES. UH, PEOPLE MOVE IN WITH MONEY FUNDS. AND JUST BULLDOG OVER EVERYTHING. WE SEE UP TO I UNDERSTAND. THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T TRYING TO GET A GOOD LIVING. BUT I WANT YOU TO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOW PEOPLE GET BEING PAID IN THE WAY THAT BEING PINEAPPLE WORKERS, UH , WORKED IN THESE FIELDS AND TILT THE GROUND HERE ALL THESE YEARS. AND THEN MARCHED OVER. BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE COME HERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND SAY OH, WE WANT THIS. WE COME HERE AND MOVE HERE. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHOEVER LISTENING OUT HERE. IT'S PEOPLE BEING DYING IN STRUGGLING ALL YOUR LIFE TO LIVE HERE. AND THEN NOBODY HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAVED THE WAY. SOME PEOPLE LIVE OUT OF TOWN. COME HERE. AND THEN WANNA JUST BOIL? BULLDOZE EVERYBODY. HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. WE NEED HOUSING. THEY NEED LOANS THEY NEED WE HAVE AFFORDABLE. THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD JOBS. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, THEY MADE IT WAY EASIER FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BECOME WEALTHY. OF THE BAGS THAT THEY WERE. AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE NO CARE AND CONSIDERATION. I THINK Y'ALL SEE THE COMMISSION FOR YOU NOT LISTENING AND CARING IF IT WON'T EVEN NOT TRYING TO GET SOME THINGS DONE. I IT'S REAL. I UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE FEEL ANGRY, TALKING ABOUT COMING DOWNTOWN. AND DOWNTOWN ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE PARKING. WE NEED ALL THAT. BUT PEOPLE NEED PLACES TO LIVE.

HE STOOD ALMOST BEEN ALMOST GONE. ALL THE FAMILIES AT GEORGE TAYLOR GOING AND POST SAINT LUCIA ALL THE PLACES THAT WAS UP THERE, CHEROKEE. IT'S GONE. WE LOST OVER 300 FAMILIES OUT OF EAST OF IT. ON THE FAMILY. AND THAT AND THAT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THE SO MANY PEOPLE COME AND WANNA BOMBARD THE CITY AND GET ON YOU OR STAND BY PASSING SOME RULES WITH Y'ALL CARE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED HOUSING. YOU KNOW THAT. SO LET'S LET'S LET'S STAY ON BOARD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTION. YES WE ARE. WE NAACP IS FOR LEAST 75 PEOPLE. AS WE'RE GONNA PAVE THE STREETS AND GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR YOU ALL THAT STAND FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM MAYOR MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

[4. PORTION OF S.E. ARAPAHO AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY ABANDONMENT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 14-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA DECLARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 36 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA THE INTENTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ABANDON AND TO SET PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS TO CONSIDER THE ABANDONMENT OF A 50’ WIDE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHIN THE CITY, BEING THE PORTION OF S.E. ARAPAHO AVENUE, MORE CLEARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A" ATTACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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GOOD EVENING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD . MY NAME IS MICHELLE ARAU. I'M A PLANNER IN THE CITY OF STEWARD DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. TONIGHT I AM PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR AN INTENTION TO THE ABANDONMENT OF PORTION OF SOUTHEAST ARAPAHO AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY. THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS TODD BRITT AND CARLA WILLIAMSON, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AT 825 SOUTHEAST 13TH STREET. THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY IS 50 FT WIDE AS DEPICTED IN RED. THE 10TH STREET SPORTS COMPLEX IS LOCATED NORTH OF THE SUBJECT. RIGHT OF WAY. THE OWNERS OF THE REAL PROPERTY.

TODD BRITT AND CARLA WILLIAMSON, LOCATED 825 SOUTHEAST 13TH STREET HAVE REQUESTED THE ABANDONMENT OF A 50 FT. ENTIRE SOUTHEAST ARAPAHO AVENUE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. I'M SORRY. THAT'S PORTION OF SOUTHEAST ARAPAHO AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY. THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT. PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT THE USE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS NO LONGER IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST AND DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE ABANDONMENT OF THE CITY'S INTEREST. THE PROCEDURE FOR ABANDONMENT OF THE CITY OWNED RIGHT OF WAY IS GOVERNED BY SECTION 36-3 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH REQUIRES THE CITY COMMISSION TO FIRST. PASS A RESOLUTION DECLARING THE INTENT TO ABANDON THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE VACATION OR CHANGE OF ANY STREET ALLEY ROAD ARE PUBLIC WAY SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY OUR ORDINANCE. THE CITY COMMISSION MAY INCLUDE IN ONE ORDINANCE, THE CHANGES OF NAME OR VACATION OR NARROWING OF MORE THAN ONE STREET AVENUE OR ALLEY WHILE VACATING ANY STREET OR PART THEREOF, ARE CHANGING ITS NAME. BUT BEFORE VACATING ANY STREETS OR PART THEREOF ARE NARROWING ANY STRAIGHT AVENUE OR ALLEY. THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL FIRST PASS A RESOLUTION DECLARING ITS INTENTION TO DO SO. 1925 RECORDED PLOT IDENTIFIES THE 50 FT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY OUTLINED IN RED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 14-20 24 A DECLARATION OF INTEREST TO ABANDON CERTAIN RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE CITY'S LIMITS. MADAME MAYOR MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. WHEN YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSIONERS. IS IT? JUST THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS FOR THIS APPLICANT THAT WILL ALSO DO IT FOR ALBERT IF HE GETS HIS PAPERWORK, AND IT FAIR JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR. ALL THAT WE'RE DOING IS MOVING FORWARD. IT DOESN'T WAIVE ANYTHING. IT'S JUST MOVING IT FORWARD. SO IN ORDER TO DO A UM, RIGHT AWAY. ABANDONMENT FIRST THING THAT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD. THEN THE APPLICANT HAS TO PAY FOR A SURVEY TO SURVEY THE ABANDONMENT PART, THEN THE VALUE IN A SURVEY AND APPRAISAL COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A TWO READING ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS WHEN THE COMMISSION CAN WAIVE THE PRIVILEGE FEE OR NOT, BUT THIS IS JUST PART OF THE SAME PROCEDURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. I'M SAYING, JUST IN IN REFERENCE TO YOU MENTIONED WITH FORM BASED CODE ANDY STEWART THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO RIGHT AWAY. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID, RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T JUST STRAIGHT. DO IT. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT COME THROUGH YOU GUYS AS A PROCESS. MADAM MAYOR. SO IT GOES. THIS ABANDONMENT GOES RIGHT BETWEEN THESE TWO HOUSES, SO WILL OWNERSHIP BE SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO HOUSES, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN THE CITY ABANDONS A RIGHT OF WAY? IT DOESN'T TRANSFER OWNERSHIP TO ANYBODY.

ALL IT DOES IS LIFT THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY OFF OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT AS A RESULT. THE CASE LAW

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IT'S AN AREA THAT CARS CAN JUST SIT. AND SO WE HAVE TWO LITTLE BOYS AND SO DO OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND WE JUST WANNA KEEP THAT BEAUTIFUL, SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY AS WELL, WHAT HAPPENED TO US AND MIGHT GIVE YOU A BIT OF PITY. I WAS GONNA BRING THIS IN THE HOPEFULLY, IF YOU DID APPROVE THE NEXT ONE, MY FAMILY ACTUALLY LOST OUR HOME. UM ON 2022 TO A FIRE ON CHRISTMAS EVE, UM, MORNING. AND SO WE FIRE YOU SAID, YEAH. OUR WHOLE HOUSE IS COMPLETELY. IT'S ACTUALLY A SHELL. YOU'LL GO PAST IT. IT LOOKS FINE. BUT, UM INSIDE IS COMPLETELY RUINED, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY SAD. AND I'M SURPRISED I'M OK. YEAH, SO BUT WE WANT WE HAVE TO REBUILD. AND SO, UM THE IDEA IS THAT OUR NEIGHBOR WILL GROW. AGREED TO THE 5050. IT JUST ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW. QUIT A GARAGE OPENING. ON THAT THAT SIDE OR YOU KNOW SO ON, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING CRAZY? UM AND I THINK ACTUALLY, OUR NEIGHBOR CURRENTLY HAS PAVED HIS SIDE OF IT. NO, IT IS. IT'S KIND OF LIKE OLD SCHOOL RULES THAT WERE INHERITED. AND I'M SORRY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST OLD STUFF. FROM A LONG TIME AGO, SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE THE CITY SO MUCH BETTER. WE BELIEVE IN IT . WE INVEST IN IT. IT'S WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUR ROOTS. I DO HAVE AN ACCENT. I AM NOT FROM STUART.

I'M FROM AUSTRALIA, BUT I LOVE TO I CALL IT YEAH, I. I LOVE STUART. LIKE I'VE LIVED EVERYWHERE AND THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO, LIKE BUY HOUSE AND HOME WITH MY KIDS, SO THANK YOU.

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ALSO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARY, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO SHOULD WE SAY THAT?

[5. PROCLAMATION POLICY UPDATE (RC): RESOLUTION No. 25-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING RESOLUTION 56-09 BY RE-ESTABLISHING A POLICY FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PROCLAMATIONS BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION AND CONCURRENTLY APPROVING AND ADOPTING AN UPDATED CITY OF STUART PROCLAMATION POLICY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. UM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, UH TO REVIEW THE POWER FORMATION POLICY OR NOT. BUT I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CLERK ON THIS MATTER AND WE HAD BEEN DISCUSSING IT, UM SOME TIME. THE LAST TIME THE PROCLAMATION POLICY WAS, UH, WAS A WAS A UPDATED OR REVIEWED WAS, I BELIEVE IN 2009? AND IT WASN'T IN THE FORMAT THAT YOU'LL FIND BEFORE YOU TODAY THE CLERK HAD PUT IT TOGETHER IN A MORE OF AN OUTLINE FORM. SO THAT IT'S EASIER TO KIND OF FOLLOW AND TO DETERMINE THE CRITERIA. IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE. HOWEVER I WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UM IN THE WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH, BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO ADJUST THOSE MEETINGS SO THAT ONE OF THE MEETINGS STARTS AT 4 P.M. AND DURING THAT MEETING, WE DO PROCLAMATIONS AND OTHER SERVICE EVENTS AND OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND, UM THE LAST MEETING. STARTED AT FOUR AND WE FINISHED THE PROCLAMATIONS AND GOT TO THE FINISHED THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS GENERALLY PRETTY QUICK. AT 615. SO IT TOOK TWO HOURS AND 15 MINUTES TO GET TO THE AGENDA. AND SO ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS I WANTED TO BRING UP AND AGAIN IT'S TOTALLY THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD AND ITS, UM YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, BUT WE'RE ASKING NUMBER ONE AT MINIMUM THAT YOU ADOPT THIS. POLICY IS AN UPDATED PROCLAMATION POLICY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY. A REMINDER OF WHAT THE RULES ARE OF WHAT THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE, UM AND WHAT THEY AREN'T AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS LOOKING FOR IS DID YOU WANT STAFF? TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT ARE ADDED TO ANY PARTICULAR AGENDA.

AND WE COULD DO ONE OF TWO THINGS WE COULD EITHER. JUST HAVE IT BE FIRST. COME FIRST SERVE AND HAVE IT WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT. OR UM, WE COULD ALLOW HOWEVER MANY PROCLAMATIONS UM. COME IN, BUT WE COULD HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN THOSE PROCLAMATIONS BUT ONLY READ. A SPECIFIC NUMBER AT THE MEETING UNLESS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS CONTACTED ME AND MADE LIKE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE OF SOMETHING BE CERTAIN PROCLAMATIONS THAT THAT, UM WOULD. GO FORWARD, NO MATTER WHAT, EVERY YEAR AND I I'M THINKING OF LIKE THE MLK DAY PROCLAMATION WOULD BE A STANDARD PROCLAMATION. THERE'S WELL THERE'S CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE HAVE BEEN STANDARDIZED AND GO THROUGH THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR. BUT NOW I KNOW RECENTLY THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO GROUPS. HAVE THE SAME PROCLAMATION. ON THE SAME MEETING. IT WOULD SEEM THAT IN THAT SITUATION, I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE MAYOR. SIGN ONE OF THEM AND THEN JUST DO ONE PROCLAMATION FOR THAT CONTENT RATHER THAN MULTIPLE PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE SAME CONTENT. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS AND GO FORWARD, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK AS IT RELATES TO THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN THE PROPOSED PROCLAMATION. UM PLEASE . I DON'T. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT TAKE UP THE TIME. I THINK WHEN YOU TAKE UP THE TIME IN OUR COMMISSION COMMENTS THAT'S WHY THE MEETINGS GO. OK, SO I MEAN, THERE'S I CAN TELL YOU THE PEOPLE WHO COME AND GET PROCLAMATIONS AND COME. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE OCCASIONALLY WE DO. ONCE IN A BLUE MOON. WE GET, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE THE TWO GROUPS WITH THE

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[6. UPDATED PROCUREMENT POLICY (RC): RESOLUTION No. 23-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA APPROVING THE UPDATED PROCUREMENT POLICY FOR THE CITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

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UM OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A COPY, UH, ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH HAS THE UNDERLINES IN RED MARKINGS OF THE REDUCTIONS IN ADDITIONS. UM PRIMARILY 11.1 IS A DISPUTE PROCEDURE. UM WHICH, UM MY TIME AT WORKING AT THE COUNTY IN PORT SAINT LUCIE II. I HAD WORKED ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE WHERE WE NEEDED TO DISPUTE PROCEDURE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ONE IN OUR POLICY. AND, UM WE HAD AN ISSUE IN IN MY PRIOR EMPLOYMENT THAT I LOOKED UP THE STATUTE THAT REQUIRED TO HAVE THE DISPUTE PROCEDURE WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE ONE. SO THAT'S 11.1 IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE OR ADDITION. UH, SOME OF THE OTHERS. WE WERE LIKE UPDATING. THE ADDRESS. YOU KNOW, THE PROCUREMENT DIVISION MOVED TO THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING, BUT WE STILL HAD OUR ADDRESS HERE.

AS FAR AS SENDING NOTICE TO OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. UM I. I JUST CLEANED UP A LOT OF THINGS WHILE I WAS MAKING CHANGES. UM WAY THINGS WERE WRITTEN AND SPELLED OUT I. I SAW SOME GRAMMATICAL CHANGES THAT WERE DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING. I WAS CLEANING HIM UP TO MAKE HIM LOOK BETTER. THAT'S PRIMARILY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS WHAT I'VE MENTIONED ALREADY. GREAT ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LEE. I JUST CLEAN UP. AND WE HAVE A MADAM MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2324 REGARDING THE UPDATED PROCUREMENT POLICY. OK? AND WE HAVE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? CAN I MAKE A COMMENT NOW THAT I'VE MADE THE MOTION? I JUST WANNA, UM THANK OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO DO THIS AND TO BRING US INTO THE MODERN WORLD. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW THAT JOY HAS DONE A LOT IN FINANCE AND THE INTERNET. PEOPLE HAVE DONE A LOT AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO GET OUT THERE AHEAD. TO DO SOME THINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A ROLL, MARY. MAYOR BRUNER. YES VICE MAYOR RICH COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES, YES. HERE YOU GO. WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND READING OR A FIRST READING. WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[7. DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION OF AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FROM GREEN MILLS GROUP]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS MITCH ROSENSTEIN. I'M A PRINCIPAL OF GREEN MILLS GROUP WERE BASED IN FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA. I LIVE IN DEL REY. UH, TECHNICALLY UNINCORPORATED PALM BEACH ABOUT 45 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE. UM, BEFORE I START THE PRESENTATION, I, I JUST I WANNA SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN HOPING TO BE IN A POSITION TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE DECADE. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU ALL OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT, UM THE POLITICAL CLIMATE AND THE OPPOSITION WAS FIERCE. BUT I HAVEN'T GIVEN UP. UM. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS, UH, IS APPROPRIATE AND ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE RENDERINGS. THE SITE PLAN. THESE ARE ALL DRAFT. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE SUBJECT TO INPUT FROM STAFF AND FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FOR LOCAL BUILDING CODES AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BUT IT'S A IT'S A STARTING POINT NONETHELESS. UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. ALL WE DO IS AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ALL WE DO. AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN FLORIDA. UM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIPS ABOUT FOUR OF THEM WE OWN AND OPERATE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WE ARE NOT MERCENARIES. WE'RE STILL PRETTY YOUNG AND WE HAVE ENERGY AND I MAKE ANOTHER POINT LATER IN THE

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SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO SEE YOURSELF ON VIDEO. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PLAY THIS SO THAT YOU CAN HOPEFULLY GET A FEEL FOR WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE BUILD. UM I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO IT FROM FROM HERE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SCROLL OVER. YEAH.

MAYOR OF AUBURNDALE CITY OF AUBURN. OTHER COMMISSIONERS. UM. I THINK THE AUDIO IS NOT WORKING. WE'RE WE'RE GONNA GOING TO PLOW FORWARD. UM, BUT THAT'S THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S AUBURN VILLAGE. IN POLK COUNTY. 100% PORT. UH ALL OF OUR HOMES THERE ARE AT 80% BELOW OF POLK COUNTY'S MEDIAN INCOME 80% AND BELOW. AND WE HAD TO AGREE TO A 55 0 50 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD. 50 YEARS. WE ASSUME THAT IT'S GONNA THAT'S ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS. YOU SPOKE WITH THE GRAND UM WE ASSUME THAT OUR OUR PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE AFFORDABLE. I HEAR THE SOUND.

YEAH I'M GONNA I'M GONNA LET'S SEE IF I CAN MOVE FORWARD, OK? UM WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH, OBVIOUSLY, UH AND I'M GONNA QUOTE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE CITY'S 2017 HOUSING ACTION PLAN.

MUCH OF STUART'S HOUSING STOCK IS CHARACTERIZED BY AGING STRUCTURES IN NEED OF HARDENING.

AFFORDABILITY AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGES FOR THE WORKING CLASS . UM THIS IS ONE OF ONE OF OUR NOTES. THE CITY HASN'T HAD A NEW, FORMALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY OF MORE THAN 32. UNITS 32 HOMES SINCE 2012 SO IT'S BEEN OVER A DECADE IN THE SMALLEST NEW, FORMALLY AFFORDABLE COMMUNITY WAS 32 HOMES. UM. THERE NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS OF NEW HOUSING IN AREAS ADJACENT TO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND TRANSPORTATION. CITY SHOULD OFFER INCENTIVES TO DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO INCLUDE A PERCENTAGE. OF BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS AS PART OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS. NOW, UM I MINORED IN ECONOMICS. UM AND I. I BELIEVE IN UH, THE LAWS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND, SO I DO THINK THAT SUPPLY SIDE WILL HELP WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE HAVE. THERE IS ALSO A PLACE FOR THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITIES AND FOR THE GREEN MILLS GROUPS TO DO FORMALLY DESIGNATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S APPROPRIATE. UH, THERE'S ALSO A NOTE IN THE ACTION PLAN TO USE TIFF TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. FOR EXAMPLE , INCREASED VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS, STREET LEVEL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS, ETC.

UH, THE SCHOMBURG CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA PUBLISHES DATA REGULARLY TO SPEAK TO THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THEY BREAK IT DOWN BY COUNTING. AND THESE WERE TWO STATISTICS FROM THEIR 2022 DATA SET. THERE'S AN ESTIMATED 14,000 PLUS RENTER, HOUSEHOLDS, OF WHICH 25% OUR COST BURDEN. I WOULD BET THAT THE PERCENTAGE IS HIGHER. UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR YEAR AND A HALF. COST BURDEN MEANS THAT, UM. RESIDENTS ARE

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ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE ABOUT THE PROPERTY. UH, AND THIS IS MAYBE A BIT OF A TANGENT IS THAT RIGHT NOW? THIS PROPERTY GENERATES ZERO REVENUE. FOR THE CITY. IT DOES NOT GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. NOW THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S NOT USEFUL FOR THIS CITY, BUT AS A BASELINE, IT GENERATES ZERO REVENUE FOR THE CITY. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS UP TO TWO PHASES OF INCOME AND RENT RESTRICTED. HOUSING APARTMENTS FOR UP TO 100 AND 30 RESIDENCIES. UH, CURRENTLY ASSUMING ALL ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM UNITS. UH, I WAS SPEAKING WITH MICHELLE. AND NOW I'M GETTING BACK TO MICHELLE AND I MIGHT EMBARRASS HER I. I HOPE NOT. UM SHE EXPRESSED THE NEED FOR WORKING FAMILIES WITH KIDS. UH, IT IS ALWAYS OUR PREFERENCE, ALWAYS OUR PREFERENCE. TO HAVE A MIX REALLY A LIFE STAGES FAMILY DEMOGRAPHIC COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE, UH, ONE BEDROOM, TWO APARTMENTS, TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. UM, THE REASON WE STARTED WITH ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM APARTMENT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR A COMPETITIVE HOUSING TAX CREDIT SUBSIDY. THEY LOOK AT THE THEY THEY SCORE OUR APPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF SUBSIDY REQUEST PER UNIT, NOT IN TERMS OF SUBSIDY REQUEST PER BEDROOM. SUBSIDY REQUEST PER UNIT. AND SO WHEN I CAN HAVE MORE UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO THAT SUBSIDY, REQUEST MY APPLICATION FOR THESE BIG BIG POTS OF FEDERAL SUBSIDY IS MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE. THAT SAID, I DID HEAR THE FEEDBACK FROM A NEIGHBOR. UM AND WE WILL INCLUDE SOME TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE BUT WE WILL DO THAT. I CANNOT COMMIT TO THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WILL COMMIT TO INCLUDING SOME TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS. EACH PHASE MAY INCLUDE UP TO 65 UNITS, UM AND UP TO FOUR STORIES , BUT ONLY THREE STORIES FACING SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. UM. ON SITE AMENITIES AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. WE DO THIS AT ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, LITERALLY. EVERY ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAS ON SITE. PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ON SITE MAINTENANCE AND ON SITE AMENITIES. WE'RE ESTIMATING A PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER ONE UNIT. I HEAR THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE ALL HAD TO ENGAGE IN THE TRAFFIC TO GET HERE THIS EVENING. UM, I'M SENSITIVE TO IT. UM PARKING RATIO OF 1 TO 1 IS APPROPRIATE. FOR WHAT FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM AND I THINK IT'S DOABLE ON THE 3.5 ACRES. AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS EARNING UP TO 80% OF THE AREA. MEDIAN INCOME AND I HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS WITH THE CURRENT WITH HUD'S CURRENT INCOME AND RENTS FOR NO LESS THAN 30 YEARS. I'M COMMITTING TO KEEPING THESE HOMES AFFORDABLE FOR AT LEAST 30 YEARS. CHANCES ARE THE STATE AGENCY IS GOING TO REQUIRE ME TO COMMIT TO A 55 0 50 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD. WE WILL ABIDE BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS. WE WILL NOT VIOLATE FAIR HOUSING LAWS, BUT WE WILL COMMIT TO MARKETING LOCALLY FIRST. WE WILL COMMIT TO MARKETING LOCALLY FIRST NOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

PRACTICALLY SPEAKING IS WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATIONS AND NONPROFITS AND THE CITY'S HOUSING STAFF. UM AS SOON AS WE START PRE LEASING EFFORTS, WE MAY HAVE A BIT OF A LOTTERY SYSTEM IN ROUNDS. UM BUT IF SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY GETS IT AND SUBMITS AN APPLICATION INVITES THEIR RELATIVE FROM OUT OF STATE TO APPLY IN THAT SAME APPLICATION ROUND. I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. JUST THE SAME. BUT I WILL COMMIT TO MARKETING LOCALLY FIRST. UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH HOUSE OF HOPE. TO HELP GET THEM APPROVED BY THE STATE AGENCY BY FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM GET APPROVED AS THE COMMUNITY

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COUNT THE TOTAL HOME COUNT, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING. THESE ARE. ELEVATIONS DRAFT ELEVATIONS, OF COURSE, SUBJECT TO STANDARDS AND FEEDBACK. THIS IS A SAMPLE FLOOR PLAN. FOR A PRETTY TYPICAL ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM HOME FOR IN IN ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

IT'S ABOUT 600 SQUARE FEET. OF COURSE, THERE'S OUR OUR ONE BEDROOM. ONE BATHROOM HOMES ARE NOT STUDIOS. OTHERWISE, WE'D CALL THEM STUDIOS. THEY HAVE SEPARATE BEDROOMS. UM FULL KITCHEN. IN UNIT WASHER DRYER HOOKUPS SMALL WALK IN CLOSET. THEY'RE EFFICIENT. RIGHT WE HAVE TO DESIGN AND BUILD TO THE SUBSIDY THAT'S AVAILABLE, SO WE HAVE TO BUILD EFFICIENTLY. ARE WE USING REAL HARDWOOD FLOORS? NO, WE'RE USING HIGH END. VINYL OR LAMINATE FLOORING. ARE WE USING THE HIGHEST END QUARTZITE COUNTERTOPS? NOPE. WE TYPICALLY USE GRANITE COUNTERTOPS. UM.

WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE DO, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF PUBLIC SUBSIDY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE AMENITIES WE PROVIDE. SOCIAL AND PLANNED ACTIVITIES. BY THE WAY, THIS IS AT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THIS ISN'T JUST WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IN THE CITY OF STEWART, SOCIAL AND PLANNED ACTIVITIES, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, LITERACY TRAINING TO THOSE WHO WANT IT OR NEED IT. EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE TRAINING. COMMUNITY AMENITIES AGAIN ON SITE MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, FITNESS, STUDIO LIBRARY AND COMPUTER CENTER CLUB AND COMMUNITY ROOM. 24 HOUR LAUNDRY AREAS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANNA WANNA WANNA BRING WASHERS AND DRYERS INTO THEIR OWN HOMES. THESE ARE THE INCOMES AND RENTS. I ONLY INCLUDED ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM. APARTMENTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS CHART, BUT BUT I'LL I'LL READ A LITTLE BIT TO YOU ABOUT WHAT A TWO BEDROOM UH, TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM APARTMENT WOULD WOULD LOOK LIKE YOU CAN SEE. FIRST OF ALL, MARTIN COUNTY'S MEDIAN INCOME IS JUST SHY OF $85,000 A YEAR. IF WE LIMIT ARE INCOMES. TO 80% OF THE AM FOR ONE PERSON THAT SOMEONE EARNING $47,000 IN BELOW A YEAR. TWO PERSONS, TWO PEOPLE EARNING ABOUT $54,000. AND BELOW. TECHNICALLY. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, $47,000 AND $54,000 FOR A ONE AND TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD RESPECTIVELY, IS NOW CONSIDERED LOW INCOME. WRAP. YOU WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND THAT THAT'S NOW CONSIDERED AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN MANY PEOPLE ARE. ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH WHO ARE LIVING OFF OF SOCIAL SECURITY, OR WHO HAVE LOWER WAGE HOURLY JOBS. THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. THAT IS TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED LOW INCOME RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE PRESCRIBED DEFINITIONS MUCH OF THE TIME, WE CAN SEE WHY ALL OF THIS HAS BECOME CONFLATED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT A SINGLE PARENT WHO EARNS $54,000 A YEAR IS ABSOLUTELY PART OF OUR WORKFORCE. GUESS WHAT THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERED LOW INCOME. MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE GONNA BE RESERVED AT 60% OF THE AMI EN BELOW AGAIN. FOR ONE PERSON. THAT'S SOMEONE EARNING ABOUT $35,000 A YEAR. FOR TWO PEOPLE.

THAT'S ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR. HUD. USES STATISTICAL DATA CENSUS DATA INFLATION DATA TO SET THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR EVERY COUNTY EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IT TYPICALLY GETS PUBLISHED AROUND SUMMER TIME. IT HASN'T BEEN PUBLISHED YET FOR 224. THEY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT EVERY YEAR THEY TIE TO INCOMES THEY TIE TO INFLATION. UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE 2023 INCOME CHART LOOKS LIKE NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT RENT. MOST OF OUR HOMES, AS I SAID, WILL BE AT 60% AND BELOW OF THE MEDIAN INCOME. THE MAXIMUM GROSS RENT THAT I'D BE ALLOWED TO CHARGE. TODAY IN MARTIN COUNTY IS $953 FOR A ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM APARTMENT. $953 THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE. THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE. UM. 10 TO 15 PER CENT OF OUR HOMES WILL BE SET ASIDE AT THE 30.

LEVEL. SO THAT'S FOR ONE PERSON EARNING JUST SHY OF $18,000 WITH A RENT OF $476 A MONTH. THAT IS AFFORDABLE FOR MORE PEOPLE. 10 TO 15% OF OUR HOMES WILL BE RESERVED AT THAT 30% INCOME

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THE CITY OF LAKELAND OWN THIS PROPERTY. UM IT WAS DOING NOTHING. IT WAS UNDERUTILIZED.

UM WE UM. WE WORKED WITH THEM. WE SIGNED A LONG TERM GROUND LEASE SUFFICIENT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GET FINANCING. AND ULTIMATELY WE BUILT 14 STORY BUILDING WITH 88 HOMES. THIS ALSO FITS THAT LIFE STAGES DEMOGRAPHIC, WHICH MEANS IT'S FOR FAMILIES. WE HAVE A MIX OF ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, TWO TWOS AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM APARTMENTS HERE, TOO. INCOMES CAN GO UP TO 80% OF THE AMI AGAIN AMENITIES AND MANAGEMENT ON SITE. WE COMPLETED THIS, UM ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, AND IT WAS FULLY OCCUPIED BY JANUARY, 1ST. IN THE CITY OF LAKELAND FULLY OCCUPIED, UH, IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS. WE HAVE OUR GRAND OPENING CEREMONY THIS FRIDAY THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AT FOUR. YOU'RE INVITED. YOU ALL ARE INVITED. JUST PLEASE EMAIL US FIRST. SO THAT WE CAN GET A GOOD SENSE FOR HEAD COUNT. BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO HOST YOU AT THE GRAND OPENING. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THIS IS COLIN PARK IN INVERNESS. UM A LOT OF SIMILARITIES, TOO. UH, CITRUS COUNTY PROVIDED THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT MATCH CONTRIBUTION WHICH I'M GOING TO GET TO IN A LITTLE BIT. UH, HERE WE HAD MORE OF A GARDEN STYLE SETUP WITH 33 STORY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND A CLUBHOUSE. UH THIS IS ALSO FOR A FAMILY DEMOGRAPHIC HERE. OUR INCOMES WERE CAPPED AT 60% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME AGAIN.

AMENITIES AND MANAGEMENT ON SITE . LAST BULLET POINT IS ONE THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. WE FACE A LOT OF INITIAL COMMUNITY HESITATION. WE? THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK. A LOT OF PUSHBACK.

UM. SOME OF THE SAME REASONS AND FOR SOME DIFFERENT REASONS. UM NOW THAT WE COMPLETED THIS, WE'RE BEING INVITED BACK FOR POTENTIALLY A SECOND DEVELOPMENT AND A THIRD COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF INVERNESS. THIS IS MIDTOWN LOFTS. ALSO IN LAKELAND, THE CITY CITY. C ORIGINALLY OWNED THE LAND. WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. UM, THE CITY ALSO PROVIDED A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION. THIS HAS 14 STORY BUILDING WITH 80 HOMES. ALSO A FAMILY

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UM WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE IT BETTER. BUT WE'RE AT 6000 PER DEVELOPMENT OF A CAPITALIZED GROUND LEASE JUST TO CLARIFY ALSO, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A FEE. SIMPLE INTEREST IN LAND. I CAN GET THESE DEVELOPMENTS FINANCED. IN MY INDUSTRY WITH LONG-TERM GROUND LEASES, SO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE UP OWNERSHIP OF ITS PROPERTY. SUPPORT FROM THE CITY VIA IMPACT FEES AND UTILITY CONNECTION FEE WAIVERS AND ANY OTHER POTENTIAL RESOURCES. AND I KNOW THAT'S A THAT'S A VAGUE STATEMENT THAT'S GOING TO RUB PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY. AND I KNOW THAT OUR MINDS CAN GO WILD WITH WHAT THAT COULD MEAN OR HOW MUCH MONEY THAT COULD MEAN. UM THAT'S NOT THE GOAL HERE. THAT IS NOT THE GOAL HERE WE ESTIMATE FOR A 65 UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH. THE CITY'S PORTION OF IMPACT FEES WOULD BE ABOUT $87,000. RIGHT UM, CONNECTION FEES FOR THOSE UTILITIES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES DIRECTLY. THAT IS A BIG DEAL FOR US SITE WORK AND UNDERGROUND WORK IS OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE. CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE. AND JUST AS I'M ASKING FOR WITH YOU, WE HAVE TO TAKE A KITCHEN SINK APPROACH TO BEING ABLE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGETS. ALSO IF I'M GONNA BE CHANGING THE UNI TO INCLUDE TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS THAT'S GONNA ADD SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE HARD COST, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE HELP FROM THE CITY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. UM COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY'S, UM CR A TO OBTAIN POTENTIAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS THAT HELPS ME LEVERAGE MORE DEBT. MY OPERATING EXPENSES GO DOWN. I CAN GO GET MORE CONVENTIONAL DEBT, WHICH MEANS MORE SOURCES, WHICH AGAIN MEANS I CAN PROBABLY BUILD MORE TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM HOMES. I NEED THE LOCAL FINANCIAL MATCH. LAST YEAR, IT WAS $340,000 FOR WHAT THE STATE AGENCY FOR WHAT FLORIDA HOUSING CALLS MEDIUM SIZE COUNTIES. UM I DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVEN'T PUBLISHED THE RFAS. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FINALIZED THE TIMELINE FOR THIS YEAR. I WOULD ESTIMATE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND $400,000 PER DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IS INCIDENTALLY, RIGHT AROUND WHAT I'M OFFERING TO PAY, UH, IN THE FORM OF A GROUND LEASE TO THE CITY. I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE AGENCY. UM, TO USE A DIFFERENT SOURCE. OF FUNDING FOR THE LOCAL MATCH. THEN FROM WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PAY THE CITY IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN'T RECYCLE THE LAND PAYMENT. IT'S GOT TO COME FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE. UM THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE STATE AGENCY, UH, WANTS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR OUR OWN LOCAL GOVERNMENT MATCH, WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE. UM THE CITY WILL NOT FUND A DIME WILL NOT GIVE US ANY MONEY. UNLESS AND UNTIL.

WERE PERMITTED. WE CLOSE ON FINANCING AND WE PUT SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY UPFRONT. I HAVE TO PERFORM. WE HAVE TO PERFORM. THE CITY CAN OBLIGATE OR EARMARK FUNDS FROM THE FUTURE FISCAL YEAR. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM THE 2023 OR 2024 FISCAL YEAR.

THE STATE AGENCY JUST WANTS TO KNOW THAT THE CITY SIGNED THE LOCAL MATCH FORM AND THEY'LL FIND THE MONEY IN THE FUTURE. THE REALITY IS, IF WE'RE SO LUCKY, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, WE STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THESE HOUSING TAX CREDITS, WHICH WOULD AMOUNT

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TO PROVIDE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION GUARANTEES I WOULD OFFER YOU THE SAME STANDARD CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION GUARANTEES. THAT I OFFER TO MY OTHER FINANCING PARTNERS BECAUSE I'M ASKING YOU TO BE MY FINANCING. ALSO WE'RE LONG TERM PARTNERS. I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. UH WE WOULD AGREE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SELL OR EXIT THE PARTNERSHIP INTERESTS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY. WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. WE ASSUME UM. 15 YEARS OF OPERATIONS. THAT'S THAT'S THE TYPICAL SORT OF TIMELINE. LET ME LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, UM, THE FEDERAL AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS 15 YEARS, THE STATE OF FLORIDA IMPOSES A LONGER AND EXTENDED AFFORDABILITY PERIOD OF 50 YEARS. UH, BUT WHAT WE WOULD SAY IS FOR THE 1ST 15 YEARS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL OUR INTERESTS WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET. WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GOT. I'M NOT A MERCENARY. AND THAT'S IT. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUT I'M HERE. UM. I, I I'VE READ YOUR THING, AND THE PUBLIC IS HERE AND WANT TO LISTEN AND WE WANNA LISTEN KEENLY, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY IF WE DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND INVESTIGATE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING ON THE NUMBER OF ACREAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY THE CITY. WHAT IS IT? 2.92 0.3 0.582 0.5. AND THE TWO STORIES AND SO ON. WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT DID YOU GIVE HER UP TO 130 HOMES UP TO FOUR STORIES? OK AND YOU HAD SAID THAT YOU HAD DONE SOMETHING AT ONLY 111. BUT IF YOU DID IT AT 21 OR 22 OR 23, WE HAVE THERE MIGHT BE LESS UNITS, WHICH WHICH ISN'T ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT FOR MULTIFAMILY, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREA, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CITY. BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE TYPES OF UNITS THAT IS THERE IN THE PUBLIC HOUSING NOW, LIKE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WHICH ARE TWO OR THREE BEDROOMS OR YES, MA'AM. OK, SO YOU YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT. AND, UM. YOU MENTION ABOUT TALKING TO, UM, SOMEONE WHEN YOU CAME HERE TODAY , UH, IN THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, I SEE THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN HERNANDO COUNTY IN INVERNESS. AND SO ON. AND I. I WOULDN'T.

I'M NOT GONNA CALL ANY COMMUNITIES ANY NAMES, BUT I'D SAY THAT SOME SOME PLACES ARE NOT AS AS, UM URBANIZED AS OTHERS. I I DO SEE YOU IN SAINT PETERSBURG AND OTHER AREAS. SO YOU DO YOU DEAL WITH URBAN AND R? COMMUNITIES OR COMMUNITIES WHICH ARE AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN THEM, OK? CITY OF SAINT PETERSBURG. WHERE ABOUT TO BREAK GROUND ON OUR THIRD COMMUNITY.

UM IT'S IN SOUTH SAINT PETE, WHICH IS A HISTORICALLY MINORITY AREA. UM THE LAND THERE WAS UNUSED. UNDER USED AT BEST, BUT REALLY, IT WAS IT WAS UNUSED. UM AND THERE WERE CONCERNS IN SOUTH ST PETE AS WELL. UM, THAT'S THE REALITY. NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE'RE FULLY OCCUPIED WITH A WAITLIST AT BOTH OF OUR COMPLETED COMMUNITIES, AND WE'RE BREAKING DOWN ON A ON A 75 UNIT. SECOND PHASE OF THE SECOND PHASE, UM, FOR SENIORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WORD P, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP ALL THE TIME MAYOR, BUT I WANTED YOU TO GIVE US A PERSPECTIVE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE CITY OF STUART HAS BEEN INVOLVED. IF WE DO GET INVOLVED WITH THIS IN HAVING, UM I'D CALL IT OTHER MONEY, WHETHER IT BE FEDERAL DOLLARS OR OTHER DOLLARS COME TO DO, UM UH UH UH UH, A DEVELOPMENT. JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF, UM, FUNDING MECHANISMS YOU YOU SEEK AND WHAT KIND OF A TIME FRAME

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WE HAVE THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. THERE ARE STATE AGENCY UP IN TALLAHASSEE.

THEY PUT OUT FUNDING ROUNDS FOR DIFFERENT TARGETED, UM, COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE WOULD FALL INTO WHAT THEY CALL THEIR MEDIUM AND SMALL COUNTY GEOGRAPHIC ROUND. THEY HAVE OTHER FUNDING ROUNDS FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH WE DO ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR FORMALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE, UM FOR VETERANS IN ONE CASE IN MIAMI, UM, BUT THIS WOULD BE IN THE GENERAL GEOGRAPHIC FUNDING ROUND. WE UM WE THINK THE FUNDING ROUND WILL BE, UM OPEN AND THEN CLOSED IN FULL. WE DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT WE THINK IT WILL BE OPEN AND CLOSED IN FALL. UM IF THE ANNOUNCE PER DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO REQUEST TRACK TO LAST YEAR'S APPLICATION ROUND. WE'D BE ABLE TO, UH UH, ASK FOR DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL WIN BECAUSE IT OFTEN COMES DOWN TO A LOTTERY NUMBER. UM THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT $18 MILLION OF THIS HOUSING TAX CREDIT EQUITY. UM THAT IS THE BIGGEST PART OF SUBSIDY. UM SO LET'S SAY. AND AGAIN, I'M BEING PRESUMPTUOUS JUST FOR A DISCUSSION PURPOSES.

LET'S SAY WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET APPROVAL TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED. THE CITY. UH, HELPS US REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD, UM, APARTMENTS AT THIS SITE IN TIME. FOR A FALL GEOGRAPHIC FUNDING ROUND. WE WON'T FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO WIN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER THAT, AT THAT POINT , WE WOULD THEN REALLY GET INTO DESIGNS ENGINEERING SITE PLANNING PERMITTING. WE COULD DO A LOT OF THE SITE PLANNING UP FRONT. WE WOULD DO THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT. BUT THE SPECIFIC BUILDING DESIGNS THE ARCHITECT, HEAVY MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING THINGS LIKE THAT. DON'T GET FINISHED UNTIL REALLY WE? WE MORE FORMALLY ENGAGE THE ARCHITECTS AFTER. WE WIN THE ALLOCATION OF THESE HOUSING TAX CREDITS, SO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION. WE'D BE APPLYING FOR THE BIGGEST POT OF MONEY FROM THE STATE AGENCY OF THESE FEDERAL SUBSIDIES THROUGH THE STATE AGENCY. UM, BEST CASE SCENARIO. EARLY NEXT YEAR REALISTICALLY. WERE FULL STEAM AHEAD WITH DESIGNS AND WITH PERMITTING I'M LINING UP THE FINANCING AT THAT POINT, WHICH INCLUDES BACK TO YOUR QUESTION CONVENTIONAL DEBT, WE HAVE TO LEVERAGE CONVENTIONAL REAL ESTATE DEBT AT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. SO WE'VE GOT CONVENTIONAL DEBT. WE'VE GOT THESE HOUSING TAX CREDIT THIS HOUSING TAX CREDIT EQUITY. UM WE'VE GOT THE CITIES CONTRIBUTION WHICH WE NEED. WE NEED THAT LOCAL MATCH FOR POINTS AT THE STATE LEVEL. AND THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS TO DEFER WHATEVER AMOUNT OF ITS POTENTIAL FEE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY SOURCES NOW. UM WE ALWAYS AGAIN IT'S A KITCHEN SINK APPROACH. WE ALWAYS CHASE OTHERS . OTHER SOURCES. CAPITAL MAGNET FUNDS, HOME FUNDS. UH THE TREASURY HAS CERTAIN FUNDING ROUNDS WHERE WE CAN REQUEST A P FUNDS. THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK HAS HP FUNDS UP TO $500,000 PER DEVELOPMENT. AND IT OFTEN REQUIRES, UH 75% OF ALL OF THE ABOVE TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGETS. BEST CASE SCENARIO. BEST CASE SCENARIO WE HAVE

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YOU'RE NOT WANTING THAT DOLLAR A YEAR THING. CORRECT I'M PAYING A CAPITALIZED GROUND LEASE PAYMENT FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, BUT BUT AGAIN, I THE IF THE CITY IS ABLE TO GIVE ME THAT LOCAL MATCH CONTRIBUTION, WHICH WE NEED IN ORDER TO HAVE A CHANCE OF WINNING THIS $18 MILLION POT OF SUBSIDY, IT HAS TO COME FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE IN THE CITY'S BUDGET, GENERAL OR SHIP FUNDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A COMBINATION OF FIVE. IT JUST CAN'T COME FROM MY LAND PAYMENT TO THE CITY. NOW YOU COULD TAKE THE CAPITALIZED GROUNDS PAYMENT. AND PUT IT BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S FOR YOU ALL AND STAFF TO DECIDE. FACT THAT, BUT YES, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'VE BASICALLY GOT IT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TO SEE IF WE HAVE LAND OR IF WE WOULD WANNA GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE MAIN THING IS IF WE ARE DEDICATED. TO USING THE PROPERTY THAT HE'S ASKING FOR THE PROPOSAL. SO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WAS VERY THOROUGH. AND I ENJOYED TALKING TO YOU EARLIER TODAY. UH AND I AS I SAID, UM RIGHT NOW. I . THERE'S A LOT OF NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'VE RAN THE NUMBERS I THINK TO AFFORD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT THE MEDIAN PRICE IN MARTIN COUNTY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEEDING A $230,000 ANNUAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME. THAT BEING SAID. WE HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO STOP USING THIS PROPERTY AS A GARAGE YET. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S RIPE. PLUS I'VE ALWAYS SAID ALL ALONG THAT THIS PROPERTY, I THINK WOULD BE BETTER, ESPECIALLY NOW IN THE LIGHT OF BRIGHT LINE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT, UH, PENDING FORTHCOMING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MIKE? UM WHAT? THAT UM, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE FOURTH OR THE 11TH OR SOME OTHER POINT, UM, THAT THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT CORPORATE. THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. BUT EVEN IF AS MUCH AS I THINK THAT EVEN IF WE WERE COMING IN FOR A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS PROPOSAL TODAY, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT RIPE AND I DON'T WANNA SEND PEOPLE EVERYBODY DOWN THE ROAD BUT DOING A LOT OF WORK. JUST FOR US TO SAY, OH, WE'RE NOT. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO MOVE TO MOVE THE GARAGE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NECESSARILY THE RIGHT PLACE. IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT NOT BE, BUT BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK, COMMISSIONER. I UNDERSTAND. AND LIKE I TOLD YOU, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AND MEET WITH YOU AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DO. SEE THERE'S A NEED BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE AND I'M JUST NOT PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GOT BEAT UP PRETTY GOOD ABOUT FROM MY NEW FRIEND MICHELLE WAS, UM APPROPRIATENESS. UM FOR EAST STEWART, AND AGAIN. I FULLY APPRECIATE THAT. THAT UM. THAT I THAT I'M WHITE AND I'M I'M I'M THE SUIT HERE FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY PROPOSING AAA COMMUNITY IN IN THE CITY OF STEWART, UM I GET THAT. UM I WOULD ARGUE, HOWEVER LONG TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS TRULY AFFORDABLE THAT TIES TO THE MEDIAN INCOMES WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T SPENDING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME. UM ON RENT THAT'S PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED ON A COMMUNITY THAT'S PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED IS, UM, PERHAPS A MORE APPROPRIATE USE OF THAT PROPERTY , THEN A BIG HOTEL OR A BIG CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING AND I GET IT. I DO GET IT. I REMEMBER THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU, MR ROSENSTEIN FOR THAT PRESENTATION, UM I BELIEVE I READ THAT THE AMI FOR MARTIN COUNTY IS SOMEWHAT DISTORTED BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH PROSPEROUS COUNTY PROSPEROUS AREAS AND THAT THE NUMBER IS UNUSUALLY HIGH. ACTUALLY IS THAT CORRECT? $4000? YEAH. SO, UM. I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU RECOGNIZE THAT AND ARE WORKING DOWN AT THOSE LEVELS AT THE 30% IN THE 60% LEVEL. I MEAN

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OK, RIGHT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE AGREEING TO PAY THE CITY? YES, SIR. $6000 PER UNIT OR THAT

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AND IF THE HALF CENT SALES TAX GOES THROUGH IN THE FALL, THE CITY IS GOING TO BE THE RECIPIENT OF WELL OVER $2 MILLION A YEAR. THAT'S COMPLETE WINDFALL FOR US. FOR 10 YEARS. I BELIEVE SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE MEANS TO MEET THIS PAYMENT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF YOUR PAYMENT BACK TO US. UM. I ACTUALLY CALLED ONE OF YOUR REFERENCES. I CALLED MR JAMES WALKER JIM WALKER FLORIDA COMMUNITY LOAN FUND. UH, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION. I WAS NOT AWARE OF. IT'S BEEN AROUND. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS. AND I SAID, HOW HOW DOES GREEN MILLS DIFFERENTIATE ITSELF FROM THE OTHER APPLICANTS? YOU HAVE? AND HE GOES. WHAT THEY DO THAT NOBODY ELSE REALLY DOES. IS THEY MAKE SURE THAT BOTH PARTIES WIN THAT IT'S A GOOD DEAL, BOTH FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND FOR THEMSELVES. AND UM. THEY ARE VERY HAPPY PARTNERS OF YOURS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND UH, THEY GIVE YOU A VERY NICE RECOMMENDATION. UM AND I JUST, UH. I'M STRUCK BY A COMMENT MADE FROM THE DAIS REGARDING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT VOTED TO MOVE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TWO VOTES ON THAT ISSUE. AND WE'RE SIMPLY WAITING TO HEAR BACK. AND WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO GO TO PAY FOR A DESIGN FOR THE NEW STRUCTURES OVER BY THE WATER PLANT. SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO MOVE FROM THIS SITE. THANK YOU. HI THERE. MADAM MAYOR. YES MR CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, TOO. THAT MR RICH AND BOTH MR. UM COMMISSIONER MCDONNELL HAD SAID SORRY, MR RICH VICE MAYOR. RICH, UM SO, UH, YEAH, IT'S A TIME FRAME. IT'S SOMETHING PREMATURE. IS THERE A TIME FRAME ISSUE AND IF THERE'S A TIME FRAME ISSUE, AND IF WE DO I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT I WANNA KNOW. AND I THINK WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW IS HOW SERIOUS AND HOW COMMITTED IS THE CITY OF STEWARD TO MOVE IN TOWARDS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING OURSELVES AND HOW WE CAN WORK WITH AN AGENT TO DO IT NOW. CAN WE DO IT IN A HALF AN HOUR? CAN WE DO IT WITH WITH THIS? UH ONE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION? NO AND CAN CAN WE GO FORWARD AND AUTHORIZE SOMETHING? I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE IT'S I. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. IT'S PREMATURE. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. BECAUSE AFTER THIS, WE'RE GONNA BE TIPPING ANOTHER WAY. AND WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT HEADQUARTERS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. UM WE'RE GONNA BE TIPPING ANOTHER WAY. IF THE CITY HAS ANY LAND TO BE DEVELOPED. WE'RE GOING TO GET DIFFERENT TYPE OF PARTNERS COMING IN HERE ASKING US TO DO KIND OF STUFF, AND IT WON'T BE THE LEAST AND MOST AND BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF. OK SO THAT'S THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING I WANNA KNOW FOR SURE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES A MOTION WE'RE IN DISCUSSION DELIBERATION, BUT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE WHO WANTED TO HEAR HIS PRESENTATION AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A WORKSHOP TO HEAR HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF HAPPENING. HE BROUGHT HE SENT IN HIS ELICIT. PROPOSAL AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC EVEN IF THERE'S NO MOTION. TO MOVE AHEAD BUT. THE LACK OF ANYTHING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT SAYS WE NEED OUR CITY MANAGER. TO, UM. TO FULLY INVESTIGATE THIS PROPOSAL SOME MORE, ESPECIALLY AT THIS LOCATION TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN CAN COME BACK. IS THAT SOMETHING

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UM I ME LEARNING MORE AND IN THE FINANCES AND ALL THAT, UH AND I WANTED TO ASK ALSO. WHAT? WHAT? THESE, UH WITH THE BUILDINGS. DOES EVERYONE GET THEIR OWN ELECTRIC? HOW DOES ALL THAT WORK? WHAT WHAT'S PAID AND WHAT'S NOT PAID. SO THE RENTS THAT I POSTED ARE MAXIMUM GROSS RENTS TYPICALLY ASK OUR RESIDENTS TO PAY THEIR OWN ELECTRIC BECAUSE THOSE ARE TYPICALLY INDIVIDUALLY METERED BY THE ELECTRIC PROVIDER. WE THEN HAVE TO REDUCE THAT MAXIMUM GROSS RENT BY WHAT'S CALLED A UTILITY ALLOWANCE. EQUAL TO THE ESTIMATED MONTHLY COST OF THAT ELECTORATE OF THAT ELECTRIC BILL, IF YOU WILL. SO LET'S JUST USE A ROUND NUMBER. LET'S SAY THE UTILITY ALLOWANCE FOR ELECTRICITY IS $50 A MONTH. UH AT THAT $953.60 PERCENT MEDIAN INCOME LEVEL WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CHARGE $903. AND THEN OUR RESIDENT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEIR ELECTRIC BILL DIRECTLY TO THE ELECTRIC PROVIDER. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

SO THE RENTS THAT I POSTED ARE MAXIMUM GROSS FOR 2023 AGAIN. 2024 HASN'T BEEN PUBLISHED. BUT TO THE EXTENT ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY THEIR OWN UTILITIES WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO REDUCE REDUCE THE RENT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. UTILITY ALLOWANCE. OK? UM WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE, UM WHAT OTHER THE COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS TALKED ABOUT. UM I AGREE, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE.

YOU'RE HERE AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. SO I WANNA HEAR FROM EVERYONE, UM AARON HAWKINS. YOU PLEASE COME. ERIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. YOU'RE VERY INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND I LIKE THAT. YEAH. HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? UM JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT'S JUST DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION, I JUST WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE TO GIVE PEOPLE. UH, A BETTER CONTEXT. UM I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE NUMBER IS NOW, BUT OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THERE WAS ABOUT 300/300 KIDS. THAT WERE LIVING OUT OF THEIR CARS. HERE IN MARIN COUNTY OR UM, HERE IN HERE IN THE CITY

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YOU'RE RIGHT, EVEN MORE. AND OF COURSE, SHE CAN'T AFFORD THAT WITH CAR INSURANCE, GAS, CAR REGISTRATION, DIAPERS AND OTHER NECESSITIES OF LIFE. AND REALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE HER HAVE TIME TO GET HER GED AND TO GET SOME MORE EDUCATION. SHE WOULD LIKE TO BECOME A PHLEBOTOMIST OR AC N A AND, UM SO SHE CAN EARN MORE. BUT OF COURSE, YOU CAN IMAGINE HER SITUATION. EVERY BIT OF MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS JUST SURVIVING AT THIS POINT. AND SO MY PLEA IS THAT DEFINITELY THIS.

REQUEST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE VERY MUCH NEED IT HERE IN THE CITY OF STUART. THANK YOU, MA'AM. A METHOD S. ALL OF THIS. WELL, SHE'S HERE. HI. I. GOOD EVENING, SO I'M SAMANTHA SAGE.

THE CEO OF MARTIN COUNTY HEALTHY START COALITION, UH, TO LINDA LEE IS A MARVELOUS HOME VISITOR FOR US. UM FIRST I WANTED TO WHILE I HAVE YOU AS AN AUDIENCE, THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE SCOPE OF THE WORK FOR THE ARPA FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT FUNDING INTO THE DOULA AND THE DIAPER PANTRY. UM, BUT I AM, UM I WAS RAISED IN MARTIN COUNTY . I LIVE AT 1380 SOUTHEAST SAND DOLLAR LANE OVER INSTA HEIGHTS. I HAVE TWO KIDS, TWO KIDS AT JD PARKER AND ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL GO THERE SOON. UM MY KIDS HAVE CHILDREN IN THEIR CLASSROOMS WHO , UH, ARE LIVING OUT OF CARS IN TENTS. AND WHEN I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT REALITY TO THEM, UH , IT'S DEVASTATING AND IT'S SHOCKING TO THEM. I THINK THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO EXPLORE THIS AS AN OPTION. IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO VERY LITTLE. THE TIN CITY OF STUART, THAT WE ARE, UM WE IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD WE STRIVE TO EMPOWER OUR FAMILIES. WE WANT THEM TO BECOME SELF SUFFICIENT AND RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT THE ECONOMY IS FORCING THEM TO STRUCTURE THEIR BUDGETS IS MAKING IT SO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET OFF OF MEDICAID. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET OFF OF WICK. UH, THEY'RE HAVING TO USE THEIR CHILDHOOD VOUCHERS BECAUSE ALL THEIR MONEY IS GOING INTO THEIR

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UM THE ONLY WAY THOSE THINGS WORK IS, UM, IS SUPPORT FROM THE MI THE MUNICIPALITIES. YOU GOTTA HAVE EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, NONPROFITS, THE GOVERNMENT. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DEVELOP TRUE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE LONG LASTING 30 TO 50 YEARS LIKE WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT HERE TONIGHT. SO UM , IF WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UM AND I THINK IT'S URGENT THAT WE START TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, WE'VE YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE STORIES HERE, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE. UM IN MARTIN COUNTY. UM, HOUSING IS NOW THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT OUR CLIENTS A HOUSE OF HOPE ARE FACING RENTS HAVE JUMPED. 456 $700. THAT'S JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE. THAT'S PUSHING MORE PEOPLE. AND TO UNSAFE SOLUTIONS. UH, NOT JUST HOMELESSNESS, BUT OTHER, UH ISSUES AND CHALLENGES. UM THAT IT CREATES. THERE'S ALSO THE ECONOMIC CHALLENGE, UM, OPEN JOBS BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR WORKERS TO LIVE. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY, UM, ADDRESSED PROPERLY WHEN WE HAVE THE SOLUTION, LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT, SO I HOPE THAT WHAT YOU'LL DO HERE IS , UM, PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION. UM YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO ANYTHING. YOU'RE NOT SPENDING ANYTHING. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS INSTRUCTING YOUR STAFF TO WORK WITH GREEN MILLS. HOPEFULLY UM, TO EXPLORE THEM TO EXPLORE THIS.

TO EXPLORE POTENTIALLY OTHER SOLUTIONS. UM BUT LET'S NOT JUST LET THE DIALOGUE DIE. LET'S YOU KNOW, LET'S DIG IN, UM AND CONNECT, AND I THINK AS FAR AS THE DOLLARS AND THE RESOURCES UM YOU KNOW THAT GIVE THE CITY MANAGER TIME TO TALK TO HIS COUNTERPARTS AT THE COUNTY.

MAYBE THEY'LL FIND WAYS TO PARTICIPATE. PHILANTHROPY COULD POTENTIALLY BE A SOLUTION. FOR SOME OF THIS. THERE'S BIG INTEREST AMONG OUR DONOR COMMUNITY IN MARTIN COUNTY AND HELPING TO BE PART OF A SOLUTION FOR THIS ISSUE. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A CHANCE TO, UM, TO EXPLORE TO LET'S YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA WORK, UM, SHARED ADVERSITY WITH THE ISSUES AROUND COST AND OTHER CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH IT, BUT CREATE OPPORTUNITY THAT BETTERS THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NIKKI HAWKINS. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. I'M NICKY HAWKINS. I AM CEO OF ELANTE DEVELOPMENT GROUP. I'M THE HOUSING CHAIR OF THE N, A AC P AND ALSO THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF STEW AND MARTIN COUNTY. SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. WANNA SAY FIRST? THANK YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE SLASH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A DEVELOPER. I UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS TO BUILD ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I STARTED. MY COMPANY WAS BECAUSE I WAS FORCED TO MOVE TO PORT SAINT LUCIE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN THE CITY WHEN I GOT READY TO BUY MY HOUSE, SO THAT'S WHY I STARTED MY I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT I SEE THE RENDERINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THAT THE, UH, PLANS NEED TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY DO NOT INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY. OK? VERY MUCH. CAITLIN PAUL MARY. EVERYBODY, UM. THANKS FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MICHELLE MCFADDEN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. UM MY, UM FIRST OF ALL, I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING ABOUT WHAT THEY SAYING THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH I HAD TALKED TO MR MCDONALD BEFORE AND THERE IS A NEED HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES AROUND HERE THAT HAS PLACES OVER THERE BY JD. PARKER THERE'S AN APARTMENT PLACE OVER THERE. THEN YOU HAVE ONE OVER THERE. THE CROSSES NOBODY'S LIVING THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT. SO IF HE BUILDS HIS PLACES WHICH THE RENT IS ABOUT THE SAME OR A LITTLE BIT MORE. WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT, THEN? I DON'T THINK SO. THERE WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. I LIKE WHAT MR MCDONALD SAID WHEN HE WAS SAYING THAT ABOUT NOT BILLING HIS PLACES THERE. WE NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR OUR PEOPLE. AND I. I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD AFFORDABLE BECAUSE AFFORDABLE IS AN UMBRELLA AND EVERYTHING FALLS UPON THAT UMBRELLA. WE NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING LOW INCOME. SINGLE MOTHERS CANNOT STAND A ONE BEDROOM WITH WITH TWO OR THREE CHILDREN. PAYING THAT KIND OF RENT. WHAT TIME IS SHE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH HER CHILDREN WHEN SHE GONNA HAVE TO WORK TO TWO OR THREE JOBS AND IN ORDER TO AFFORD THE RENT? I WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I. I DON'T EVEN I'M BARELY IN THE FORTIES MAKING IN AND HERE IT IS, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT RENT AND I HAVE, LIKE I HAVE TWO CHILDREN STAYING AT HOME WITH ME. THEY NEED THEIR OWN BEDROOM. HOW CAN I AFFORD A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH WITH THREE KEY WITH ME AND TWO CHILDREN? A BOY AND A GIRL NEED THEIR OWN ROOM. WE DO NEED PLACES AROUND HERE. WE DO NEED PLACES THAT LOW INCOME LOW INCOME FOR THESE PEOPLE TO AFFORD. THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT ARE STAYING IN HOTELS OR AND

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MY NAME IS AEA. WILEY. UM DO A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY. UM AND I'M ALSO A REALTOR. CATERER, MOTHER.

YOU NAME IT, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN TRIGGER WORDS AND TRIGGERS TRIGGER SITUATIONS.

THAT REALLY KINDA MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL AND IT HURTS ME. OK AND MR MCDONALD USED IT. A COUPLE OF SET OF TR TRIGGER WORDS TO ME. UM AND IT'S EASY FOR YOU ALL TO SIT UP THERE AND MAKE A DECISION . UM FOR A COMMUNITY THAT YOU REALLY HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED. OK I'M TRYING NOT TO REALLY GET EMOTIONAL. BUT THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS ALMOST HOMELESS COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. HOMELESS LIVING IN A MOBILE HOME PARK. OK AND. THAT AND I I'M TELLING YOU, IT WASN'T FOR THE GRACE OF GOD AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY STOOD BEHIND ME TO. REALLY UH, MAKE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS WERE HAPPENING BEHIND BEHIND FOR MY CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT MAKES ME.

VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. AND THOSE TRIGGER WORDS ABOUT, UM, IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME.

WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME? OK I'M GONNA TELL YOU ALL YOU NOW TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE GARY BUILDING OF THE GARY PROPERTY. TAKE A NIGHT AND GO AND STAY THERE. TAKE YOUR TENT, GO BUY A TENT.

OR GO SLEEP IN YOUR CAR. AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AT NIGHT WHERE WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE HOME NOW THAT YOU TAKE OWNERSHIP , THEY GONNA HAVE NO PLACE TO GO . I WAS NOT EVEN GONNA COME HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M THINKING AT SOMEPLACE ELSE OR WHATEVER. BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS GONNA BE HERE IN EAST STUART, WHERE HOUSING IS NEEDED HOUSING IS NEEDED. SO WHEN WILL THE RIGHT TIME BE? WHEN WILL THE RIGHT TIME BE? OK, YOU LOOK AT STORY. MR GARY'S PROPERTY IS NOW NO LONGER CHEROKEE IS NOW NO LONGER THE TAILS ARE NO LONGER WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE TO THE FAMILIES? OF EASTER. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? IF YOU NEVER EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS, IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND. AND YOU ARE SITTING THERE AND YOU DON'T EVEN YOU CAN'T EVEN FATHOM WHAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AND THE CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO STAY. BUT THEY GOTTA GET UP AND GO TO SCHOOL, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN FOCUS. AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE $1000 AND YOU MAY MAY BE HIGH FOR SOME PEOPLE. THE ONE BEDROOM, YOU MAY NEED TO DO MORE, TWO BEDROOMS BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG NEED

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UH I'D LIKE TO FIRST SAY THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GREEN MILLS GROUP. BUT IT WAS JUST A DAY THAT I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I WAS VERY EXCITED WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT, PARTICULARLY WITH THEM BEING INVOLVED. UM, BUT I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEIR MODEL FITS WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN PREACHING FOR A LONG TIME, AND THAT'S NOT DEALING WITH THOSE PEOPLE IN THE 140% OF AMI, WHICH REALLY BY STATE STATUTE COULD EVEN BE AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT, UH, WE'RE INTERESTED, AND WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. OUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN LET'S TAKE CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE. AND UH, AT LEAST UNDER THE 80% WE'VE TALKED MORE ABOUT THOSE UNDER THE 60% OF THE AMI, WHICH WHICH, IN MARTIN COUNTY, YOU'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS. $84,800 AND SO I URGE YOU TO TAKE THIS FORWARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, YOU KNOW NOW'S THE TIME YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T BEGIN. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PUT THIS OFF IF WE WANNA KEEP OUR WORKERS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES FOR EACH ONE OF US HERE IN STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY TO STAY HERE, WE CAN'T JUST I SAT UNDER THE RUG, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THIS FURTHER FOR MORE DISCUSSION. THANKS. THANK YOU. MR SMITH, JIMMY SMITH. ON ITEM SEVEN. YES. TO HAVE HIM AGAIN. YES, SIR. LISTEN, UH. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR HIM THAT HE HAD MADE A STATEMENT OF SAYING THAT, UM YOUR APPLICATION WILL BE ON BASED ON UM, THE BACKGROUND CHECK. YOU GOTTA LOOK AT ME THIS WAY. JIMMY YOU CAN TALK TO HIM. JUST LET US HEAR YOU OK? OK ON ON A BACKGROUND CHECK. UH YOU SAID IT WAS TURN THE DIAL UP AND DOWN. UH, THAT CONCERNED ME. UH, AND THEN ALSO YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM OH, THEY ARE SOMEWHERE ON THE APPLICATION. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PUT SOMEONE ON THE APPLICATION. AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT APPLICATION, RIGHT? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S CONCERNING, UH, WE DO LOW INCOME HOUSING, UH , FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH WE NEED, AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN WHY WE NEED IT. UH IF IT WITH THE CITY HAVE A PART OF BEING A REVIEW BOARD ON WHO'S YOU GONNA LET COME IN? BECAUSE THE SAME THING WITH PORT SAINT LUCIE WHEN THEY FIRST CREATED THEIR HOUSING . UH $500 DOWN, YOU CAN GET A HOUSE BUILT, AND THEN IT GOT BOMBARDED FROM OUT OF CITY DIFFERENT CITIES. JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE THINGS. WHEN WE DO MAKE THAT DECISION THAT WE CAN HAVE A REVIEW BOARD. WITH THE CITY HAVING SOME INVOLVEMENT OF CREATING A REVIEW BOARD THAT SOMEONE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS STRING UNIT BOMBARDED FROM THE OUTSIDE, AND THEN THE INSIDE IS NOT BEING PAYING ATTENTION TO UM , DON'T GET A CHANCE TO GET YOU CAN SEE IT ALL OVER. EVEN NOW, THE, UH UH, OTHER HOUSING PART OF HABITAT HOUSING HAS BEEN BOMBARDED. AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED HOUSING. THEY CAN'T GET IT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BOMBARDED BY OTHERS. UH, SO REASON I WANNA SAY THAT THE CITY OF STEWART IS IN DEBT, UH, REALLY NEEDS THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE NUMBER ONE FELLOW IN SCHOOL FOR IN MARTIN COUNTY. JD PARKER ELEMENTARY, THE BLACKS AND ONLY TWO TWO. BLACK KIDS THAT'S PASSING THEIR GD PARKER. TWO. AND ALL OF THEM COME OUT OF EAST STUART COMMUNITY. FAILING BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION. THAT THEY'RE LIVING. WORRYING ABOUT THE NEXT MEAL, A PLACE TO STAY PROBABLY SLEEPING, UNCOMFORTABLE. RIGHT HERE. WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW. WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THAT WE GOT AAA GROUP OF, UH RETIRED TEACHERS THAT ARE WILLING TO COME IN AND TRY TO TUTOR. JD PARKER SCHOOL. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. AND THO. THOSE PARENTS, THE GRANDPARENTS HAVE PAVED THE WAY HERE. MARIN COUNTY . HOW PAVED THE WAY I WORKED. I KNOW BECAUSE MY MOTHER MY MOTHER TIL THE GROUND WORKED FOR THE BUSHES FOR ALL THOSE YEARS. AND WHEN SHE RETIRED, SHE GOT NOTHING. HE PAID THE PEANUTS UNDER THE TABLE. YOU GET SOCIAL SECURITY. SO I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. WHERE SOMEBODY.

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THANK YOU, MR SMITH. I HAVE ONE MORE. UH MARY SHOULD I SHOULD I. I HAVE ONE MORE. UH, THE I'LL LET YOU COME UP. SEAN REED ON SEVEN. HELLO. YES I WANTED TO CLARIFY MY COMMENT. FIRST OF ALL , AND NOT IN MY BACKYARD. EVERYBODY IN THIS CROWD WANTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN THEY COME UP IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. MOST PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT COME INTO THE CROWD. THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT IT, BUT IT'S A REAL ISSUE. OBVIOUSLY, IT NEEDS FIXED AT ONE POINT UM, AND THIS WAS A QUESTION FOR MITCHELL. UM WHAT'S YOUR SALARY COMPARED TO WHAT'S UP HERE FOR PEOPLE TO AFFORD. UM ALSO HAS GREEN MILLS SOLD ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES IN THE PAST. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 15 YEARS. AND ALSO IT'S I REMEMBER AT THE STUART HOUSING AUTHORITY. THEY WERE TALKING. THEY WERE 1300 BEHIND. EVEN IF THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED YOU FIX MAYBE 10% OF THE ISSUE IN THE CITY OF STUART I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH PROPERTY THE CITY EVEN HAS IF THEY GAVE IT ALL TO HIM, IF IT WOULD EVEN FIX IT. UM AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF WE REALLY WANT TO FIX IT, WE HAVE NEW FIELD THAT WAS APPROVED. AND I KNOW THERE IS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, IN THE MEETING THAT WAS 4000 SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. IMAGINE HOW MANY APARTMENTS WE COULD PUT THERE WHERE PEOPLE COULD AFFORD THEM. INSTEAD OF DOING THAT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. I. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. UM FIRST, MR MR SMITH. UH ABOUT THE, UM, THE TENANT APPLICATION PROCESS. I'M GONNA TRY TO CLARIFY AND I'LL AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. WE'RE REQUIRED BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS FEDERAL SUBSIDY. THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, COMPLIANCE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE BROUGHT WITH IT. WE GO THROUGH, TYPICALLY, UM TWO. AT LEAST ONE USUALLY TWO AUDITS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES. AND LITERALLY ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. UM, INCOMES ARE CHECKED. SO WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE STRICT INCOME RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE BOUND BY THAT'S NUMBER ONE THE WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT TURNING DALLAS UP AND DOWN, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO ARTICULATE THAT WE CAN BE MORE FLEXIBLE. THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER HOUSING OWNERS. UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM OUR PERSPECTIVE, RESIDENTS, THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO CONVEY. I DID CLARIFY WHERE WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE. AGAIN. IT'S WORTH A SEXUAL CRIMINAL HISTORY AND OR A VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY. UM THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE. UM THE UNIT NEXT UM, AGAIN, I. I HEARD MICHELLE SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT ABOUT KIDS. IT'S ABSOLUTELY OUR PREFERENCE TO HAVE NOT JUST ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATHROOM UNIT. IT'S OUR PREFERENCE TO HAVE TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS AS WELL, UM, IT JUST COSTS A LOT MORE TO BUILD. WE'RE ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT WE WILL COMMIT TO, INCLUDING AT LEAST SOME TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS. UM, THE DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? I FEEL LIKE I MISSED ONE. BUT I CAN'T. I'M GONNA ALLOW YOU TO DO IT. BUT DON'T NORMALLY OK. AND WE CAN WE CAN CHAT. I'M I'M AVAILABLE. UM, THE NEXT GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THE BAIT AS TO WHAT MY SALARY IS. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT, UM I WENT BROKE STARTING MY BUSINESS. UM I LEFT THE PRIOR COMPANY WHERE I WAS AN EXECUTIVE BECAUSE I WASN'T SLEEPING AT NIGHT. UM. AS DID MY PARTNER. MY NOW, PARTNER, UH, WITH ME, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO DETAILS, BUT, UM, WE BOTH WENT BROKE STARTING GREEN MILLS GROUP. UM AND, UH, YOU DON'T NEED MY FAMILY HISTORY, BUT YOU CAN HAVE IT. UM MY DAD WAS HOMELESS AS A KID. UM. MY MOM WAS A TEACHER. MY DAD SOLD SHOES AT THE MALL. SO, UM. CERTAINLY I'M NOT. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T GROW UP. UM EXTREMELY LOW INCOME, BUT I WAS FOR SURE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS AND MY DAD WAS WELL BELOW THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO AS TO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE BAIT. I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER MY SALARY IS, UM, I'M BLESSED. THAT'S THAT'S THE REALITY. I WORKED REALLY HARD AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING I HAVE, IN PART BECAUSE I HAD TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT I'VE ACHIEVED. UM, AND NOW I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A COMPANY. MY PARTNER OSCAR AND I HAVE BUILT A COMPANY OVER THE LAST 1112 YEARS FROM NOTHING. UM

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YEAH, I AGREE. THIS IS A THIS IS A WE NEED WE NEED A KITCHEN SINK RESPONSE AT ALL LEVELS OF INCOME I. I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER MCDONALD SAID. UM WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT ABOUT SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS. I AGREE THAT THERE IS BENEFIT ON THE SUPPLY SIDE. I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR HOUSING AUTHORITY NEW HOUSING AUTHORITY. STOCK. UM WHICH IS AT THE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME LEVEL? UH UM WITH THE LOW INCOME LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE PRIDE FOR A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. I THINK THERE'S A ROLE FOR ALL OF THEM. AND CERTAINLY THERE'S A NEED FOR ALL OF US.

THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU. RIGHT, UH, THAT THAT YES. YES, SIR. MR BRINKLEY. THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. SPEAK. YES, SIR. RIGHT? THANK YOU, SIR. LOOK AROUND IN HERE. AND NOBODY KNOWS THAT COMMUNITY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT AREA. BUT ME. I WAS RAISED THERE. I CAME HERE TWO YEARS OLD, WENT ROUND THE BLOCK. IN WHERE I AM NOW, SO NOBODY KNOWS THAT AREA OR THE COMMUNITY. LET ME I DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS SITUATION. THAT IS BEING PUT ON THE TABLE. WE'RE NOT. WE ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY NOT BENEFIT NO. ONE. IN THE EAST STUART COMMUNITY IT WILL BE PUT THERE, BUT IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT NOBODY. IN THAT COMMUNITY. ALL THESE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN IN THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREET WHEN I TAKE MY GRANDBABY'S ST IN THE MORNING, I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET ALL NIGHT.

THE SAME PEOPLE THAT BEEN LIVING IN THE HOUSE THAT THE CITY I'M JUST TELLING YOU LIKE IT IS LIKE THE CITY TO DOWN IN THERE. THOSE SAME PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO LIVE. I HAD TO FEED A YOUNG LADY WITH HER TWO KIDS LIVING IN A TENT ROUND THE CORNER FOR ME. THIS WOULD NOT BENEFIT. WHAT IS A ONE BEDROOM GONNA DO WITH A TWO OR THREE KIDS? COME ON, Y'ALL. LET'S COME TO REALITY HERE NOW.

WE NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND HURT IN THE EAST OF COMMUNITY NOT LOOK OVER. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING. THAT OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT TO BE TAKEN. AND THE COMMUNITY. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT BEN TOLD ME BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY IS TIRED, Y'ALL. THEY FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT BEING HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY IS FEEL LIKE THE CITY. WANT TO TAKE THE EASTER COMMUNITY. ONE BEDROOM. COME ON, WE KIDS COME ON, Y'ALL. LET'S COME TO REALITY. NOW. COME ON. WE ALL ADULTS HERE. COME ON. NOTHING THAT'S BEING SAID TONIGHT WILL NOT BENEFIT NO ONE IN THE EAST OF COMMUNITY. I LIVED ON THAT STREET LIKE I SAY FROM A CHILD, THE ONLY THING THAT EVER BEEN AND I LIVED IN 12 TH HOUSES ON THAT COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALL EVER BEEN ON MARTIN LUTHER KING. I LIVED IN A TWO STORY UP NEAR ORANGS AND PRODUCE. IT WAS 32 STORIES THERE, THAT'S ALL EVER BEEN IN THE EAST OF COMMUNITY WHAT EAST STOOD LOOK LIKE WITH A THREE OR FOUR STORY BUILDING. COME ON, Y'ALL! COME ON, LET'S BE REAL. COME ON. NOW WE ARE ADULTS HERE. LET'S BE REAL. HOW WOULD THAT LOOK IN THESE TWO COMMUNITIES? AND HOW WOULD IT LOOK THAT SOMETHING IS BEING BUILT? THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP NO RESIDENTS. PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS, DIDN'T THEY HAVE FROM THE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN CHILDREN. COME ON. THAT HURTS ME BEING A CHILD OF GOD, THAT HURTS. I HATE PEOPLE COMING TO ME, MR ABBOTT. DO YOU KNOW WHERE I CAN LIVE? THE PLACE IS JOT LATE AND BUILD THOSE PLACES ON MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD RIGHT THERE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CHARGE $1800. I GOT A DUPLEX BEHIND ME EMPTY $1300. I UNDERSTAND YOU. THAT'S SAD. COME ON, Y'ALL HELP THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. SORRY I REMEMBERED MISTER SMITH'S OTHER QUESTION. IT WAS ABOUT IF I MIGHT, UH, YOU ASKED ABOUT, UM, MARKETING LOCALLY FIRST, YOU YOU TOOK ISSUE WITH WHAT I SAID I WANT. I WANNA CLARIFY. HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL HELP. UM WE WILL NOT VIOLATE ANY FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

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AND I KNOW I UNDERSTAND MISS HALL AND MISTER BRINKLEY AND THEIR COMMENTS, AND THERE'S NO RULE THAT SAYS THAT WHEN HOUSING IS BUILT, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO EXACTLY FOR THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON. IT IS THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE INCOME LEVEL, AND FOR THOSE WHO APPLY AND THOSE WHO COME IN, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE RACIALLY SET OUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND IF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING AND DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING, THAT'S FINE, BUT WHEN THE CITY IS LOOKING AT SOMETHING FOR THIS CITY, IT'S TRULY IS FOR THE CITY. AND WE HAVEN'T I MEAN, WE DO HAVE SOME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL THEM GEOGRAPHIC LINES OR LONGITUDE LATITUDE. THEY. BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE RAIL LINES SAY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING THAT IF YOU'RE STEPPING OUT FROM PORT SALERNO OR SOMEPLACE ELSE OR PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO END UP IN MARTIN COUNTY THAT SOMEHOW YOU EITHER GET OUT OF THE LINE COMPLETELY OUT YOUR CONSTANTLY IN THE BACK OF THE LINE. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES, AND I THINK MADELINE SAID IT SO WELL IN HER. SHE'S OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SHE KNOWS WHO'S COMING AND WHO'S FLYING AND WHICH TEACHERS ARE HAVING ISSUES IN WHICH, UM, EVEN OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND OTHERS OR IF I DECIDE TO IF I BECOME HOMELESS TOMORROW IF I CAN'T PAY THE 2400 OR 3500, OR WHATEVER IT IS IN MORTGAGE OR RENT. THEY'RE THEY'RE FULLY AWARE, AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED, AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE GET, LET ME SEE WHAT THE STAFF IS ASKING, HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE DO. THAT WE TRY WE ASKED FOR DIRECTION THAT WE PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PRESENTATION AND VOTE IN THE FUTURE. AND I WILL SAY WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THIS. I'M ASKING. I'M ASKING FOR A SECOND ON MY MOTION, BUT I ALSO WANNA THIS TIME, APPRECIATE AND ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT MR ROTHSTEIN HAS BROUGHT IN FOR US, UM, TO LOOK AT AND THE UM THE SHEER BEING BRAVE AND COMING TO MARTIN COUNTY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE AND WHEN WE GET ONE LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT FEDERAL MONIES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT PLACE. WE HAVE TWO ACRES DOWN TO THE BRIDGE. I KNOW THE HOUSING COALITION HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PLACES. WE HAVE VERY LIMITED SPACES IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND MAYBE THIS CAN WORK ON SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE LEFT OVER LAND. WE WORK WITH REDESIGNING THE WILL OF GEAR PROPERTY WITH THE WITH, UM, WITH THE WITH THE HUB AND SO ON. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'LL BE ANYTHING MAYBE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WAS HERE. MAYBE HE HEARD SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN MARTIN COUNTY TO IN ORDER TO GET THESE TYPE OF FUND IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE I'M MAKING A MOTION TO, UM, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR FULL PRESENTATION AND VOTE AND TO DO IT AT A FUTURE TIME AND CONTINUE THIS

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THE VIBRANCY OF THIS CITY WILL SUFFER. ONE OF MY PHRASES I ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND IS A CITY IS DIVERSITY. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE NEED A DIVERSITY NOT ONLY ETHNIC DIVERSITY AND RACIAL DIVERSITY. BUT ECONOMIC DIVERSITY UM. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PLACE FOR THIS TO BE BECAUSE IT'S IN IT'S IN AN AREA WE'VE SPENT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THAN ANY OTHER AREA AND THAT'S EAST STEWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FORM BASED CODE. AND WHY THIS IS SO GOOD IS . THE FORM BASED CODE, THE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD CODE OVERLAY. FIRST PARAGRAPH FIRST SENTENCE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS CODE IS TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT, INFILL DEVELOPMENT, SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO SEE IN EAST STEWART. AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S A NICE ACCOMPANIMENT TO THAT? IS IF WE DO BUILD A BUILDING IN THERE A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP IS REQUIRED. NEIGHBORS MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS, OK? TO THINK , I. I AM NOT WILLING TO PUT A STRUCTURE INTO E STEWART WITHOUT MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SPEAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THEM. AND IN FACT, THE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE DO THAT.

SO AND I'M SURE MR ROSENSTEIN WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE THAT EFFORT. AND I CERTAINLY WILL BE MAKING THAT EFFORT AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TIME WE NOW HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS, STUART AND I KNOW JIMMY WILL BE KNOCKING ON MY DOOR. UM ANY OTHER COMMENTS. NO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ANYONE THAT HASN'T COMMENTED BEFORE CAN COME BEFORE US IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC. OK? E, GINA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. A LOT OF CARB IN YOU. WHEN YOU GET THROUGH. WE'LL DO. MY NAME IS REGINA HAWKINS, ANOTHER HAWKINS. UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS PROJECT OF HAVING AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT OR LOW, A LOW INCOME HOUSING UM, IS VERY MUCH NEEDED IN ST. I JUST HOPE THAT IT GOES AND IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WAY. YOU NEED TO MEET WITH EAST ST THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. DIVERSITY IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND ANOTHER THING IS. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON THIS PROJECT. THEY NEED TO BE FROM STUART. SOME OF THEM. BECAUSE THEN THE GENERATIONAL WEALTH. IS PASSED ALONG WITHIN THE SAME COMMUNITIES INSTEAD OF IT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHERE? FORT LAUDERDALE MIAMI. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO BUILD THESE PROJECTS.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE NEEDS TO BE, UH, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES NEED TO ALSO BE ABLE

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TAKE A ROLE. MARY. VICE MAYOR RICH YES, COMMISSIONER. MCDONALD COMMISSIONER COLLINS.

COMMISSIONER CLARK YES. AND MAYOR BRUNER YES. 32 OK? WE DO WITH THAT

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