Mar 14, 2024 Local Planning Agency

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THAT. ALL RIGHT. GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND OPEN THE MEETING. FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE TODAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT CAN MAKE IT. WE JUST BARELY MADE QUORUM. SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS MEETING TODAY.

UM C, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? CHAIR, LORRAINE. VICE CHAIR. FORBES UH, PRESIDENT BOARD OF MEMBER BROMFIELD BOARD OF MEMBER MATHERS. OUR MEMBER PETERSON. PRESIDENT AND BOARD MEMBER STRONG HERE. ALL RIGHT. UM, LET'S UH YOU PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION. THEY'RE NOT. THE DELIVERY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO UH, WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SECOND I ALL IN FAVOR. I BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UH, A MATTER THAT DID NOT MAKE THE AGENDA. THAT WE HAVE A NEW

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[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS]

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HAD A AN ISSUE COME UP, AND THEY THE COMMISSION. POSTPONED A MATTER 288 CERTAIN BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN READ. ADVERTISE IT IN THE AGENDAS OR ANYTHING. IT WAS JUST EMAILED TO GIVE NOTICE TO SOME SPECIFIC PEOPLE IN JUPITER ISLAND AND GUY NAMED ETHAN LOEB CHALLENGED THAT AND WENT TO THE FOURTH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL WHO COMPLETELY CHANGED THE LAW IN THE STATE FOREVER FOR A LONG BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THEY INTERPRETED IT THAT SAID, IF YOU EVER DON'T HOLD THE HEARING ON THE DAY THAT IT'S SCHEDULED. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REDONE ALL THE POSTAGE ALL OF THE SIGNS ALL OF THE DATES EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE STATE STATUTE SAID THIS MEETING HAS TO BE ADVERTISED AT IN A NEWSPAPER IN ADVANCE AND POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS TO THE TIME AND THE PLACE OF THE MEETING, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, IT'S THEY EVEN SAID IN THEIR DISCUSSION THAT IF THE BOARD WENT UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND DIDN'T FINISH AND THEN PLANNED TO PICK IT UP THE NEXT DAY OR THE DAY AFTER THAT. THAT WOULD NOT BE THE TIME AND PLACE AND THEREFORE IT WAS ALL OVER SO THERE WAS SO MUCH PUSHBACK. ON IT THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR THAT THEY REWROTE THE LAW. THEY SAID NO. YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONTINUITY, AND THAT IS THE LANDOWNER HAS A DUTY TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY NOTICE BY POSTING IT ON THE SIGN AND BY ADVERTISING IN THE NEWSPAPER AND BY PROPERLY NOTICING THE AGENDA, BUT THAT AT THE MEETING IF THE BOARD CONTINUES TO A DATE CERTAIN THAT THAT CONTINUITY IS SUCH THAT THE PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR IT. EITHER SAW THAT IT WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE IT SAYS IT ON THIS AGENDA. IT SAYS THE DATE CERTAIN OR CAN GET THE MINUTES FROM THIS MEETING AND CAN CONFIRM AND FIND OUT WHERE IT IS. IF NOT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HEARD TONIGHT ANYWAY, AND THAT MEANS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE COME SO THEY WOULD HAVE MISSED THEIR ABILITY TO SPEAK. SO THE NEW LAW ON IT. HAS CHANGED, SO IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE FOR THE DEVELOPER JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT IN OUR MINUTES AND THEN IT'S SO BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE BOARD'S MOTION TO CONTINUE CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN NOT JUST A BLANK MOTION TO CONTINUE BUT MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE LP A MEETING ON APRIL 11TH. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN IT IS APRIL. 11TH. YES, SO THAT IT CARRIES THAT CONTINUITY. OK, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. SO, UM SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH TWO ITEMS ON THERE. ITEM TWO. AND ITEM THREE. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE

[2. APPLICANT REQUESTED CONTINUANCE TO A DATE CERTAIN OF APRIL 11, 2024 - THIS MATTER WILL NOT BE HEARD BY THE BOARD ON MARCH]

[3. APPLICANT REQUESTED CONTINUANCE TO A DATE CERTAIN OF APRIL 11, 2024 - THIS MATTER WILL NOT BE HEARD BY THE BOARD ON MARCH 14, 2024]

[4. CLARITY POINTE PUD - SMALL-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT LOCATED AT 500 SE INDIAN STREET (LEGISLATIVE)(RC):]

UM GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS JODY KUGLER WITH THE AS

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FEET OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY DISPLAYING THE PROPOSED PETITIONS. THE PROPERTY IS THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTHEAST INDIAN STREET, APPROXIMATELY 580 FT. EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH EAST CANTOR HIGHWAY AND SOUTHEAST INDIAN STREET. THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 9.46 ACRES OF LAND OUT OF A 11.27 PARCEL.

AND THE ADDRESS IS 500 SOUTHEAST INDIAN STREET. THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERALL DATA. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE PROPERTY SINCE IT'S BEEN IN FRUITION? UH IN 1997, THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND ASSIGNED WITH SIGNED A COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE. IN 2004, THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE WAS AMENDED TO A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN 2005. THE BELGIUM RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS ESTABLISHED TO CONSTRUCT 66 MULTIFAMILY HOMES. UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS NEVER CONSTRUCTED. IN 2017 THE ORDINANCE FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE 66 UNITS, UH, WAS REPEALED AND ESTABLISHED A CLARITY POINT RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO DEVELOP AN 84 UNIT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH MEMORY CARE ON THE PROPERTY OF 9.46 ACRES AND AMENDED THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL FOR THE REMAINING 1.92 ACRES. IN 2027. THE APPROVED, UH, THE APPROVED THE ABANDONMENT OF THE 40 FT RIGHT AWAY WITHIN THESE CLARITY POINT, PUD. AND THIS PROPERTY WAS PLOTTED IN 2018. THIS SHOWS THE OVERALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL. UH, THE CROSSINGS, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE A LOW DENSITY.

IT'S UNDEVELOPED. IT'S WITHIN MARTIN COUNTY. YOU HAVE AC, UH TO THE EAST. YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL PLANT UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS, UM, PALMETTO EDGE SHOPPING CENTER WITH A COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND TO THE WEST. THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, WITHIN YOUR COMMERCIAL LAND USE, AND IT'S A FIVE ACRE DRAINAGE TRACK. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS, UH, MULTIFAMILY, WHICH ALLOWS FOR 1 TO 23, OR MORE DWELLING UNITS PER BUILDING, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, GARDEN HOMES, FOSTER HOMES AND ADULT CONJUGANT LIVING FACILITIES OF FOUR OR FEWER UNRELATED RESIDENTS ON A ZERO OUTLINE RESIDENCE. UM OOPS. SORRY. THE PROPOSED THE PETITION IS REQUESTING THE, UM PROPERTY BE CHANGE TO FUTURE LAND USE TO COMMERCIAL WHICH ALLOWS FOR, UH, PREDOMINANTLY RETAIL SALES BUSINESSES, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES , SHOPPING CENTERS, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT HOTELS. MOTELS AND OTHER TEMPORARY LODGING. THE MAKES USE IS, UH, IN THIS IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE A ZONING OF A MIXED USE PROJECT ARE ALLOWED. WHEN YOU'RE DOING A LAND USE AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE MAXIMUM BUILD OUT. UH, DENSITY AND INTENSITY. SO IF THIS PROPERTY, UH, WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL CALCULATIONS FOR THE POTENTIAL INTENSITY UH, WE'RE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A FUTURE LAND USE TODAY. THIS THIS POTENTIAL PROPERTY COULD HAVE UP TO 284 UNITS. UM IT STARTED UNITS PER ACRE AND HAVE A MAXIMUM OF COMMERCIAL USES OF 412,077 SQUARE FEET. THE PROPOSED LAND USE, UM ALLOWS ONLY 95 UNITS, POTENTIALLY. AND, UM 61,811 64 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OK? AS PART OF THE LAND USE, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS, UH, WAS DONE. IT WAS PREPARED BY JFO GROUP IN IT DEMONSTRATED THAT IT PO REQUEST TO CONVERT AN EXISTING 84. BE EXISTING LIVING FACILITY WITH MEMORY CARE AND TO INPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH AND DRUG REHAB FACILITY WILL GENERATE LESS THAN 20 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. THIS IS ALSO

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AND THEN UM THERE BEFORE WERE THOSE COMMERCIAL AND THEY CHANGED THEM ALL TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO ALL THE LOTS WERE YES. WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1997, THE WHOLE PROPERTY WAS A COMMERCIAL LAND USE. THEN, WHEN THE ASSISTANT LIVING FACILITY CAME IN, THEY CHANGED THE LAND USE. UH, I'M SORRY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CAME IN. THEY CHANGED IT TO MULTIFAMILY TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THEY WERE NEVER CONSTRUCTED. AND UM, THE MULTIFAMILY IS COMPATIBLE WITH AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2016. OK AND THEN IS THIS ALL OWNED BY THE SAME DEVELOPER? OR IS IT? UM, ARE THESE DIFFERENT? THE 9.46 ACRES IS OWNED BY, UH, ONE DEVELOPER AND THE, UH, THE ONE IN THE PINK AT THE CORNER IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY A SEPARATE ENTITY. UH, THAT'S 1.92, AND THAT IS A BUILT OUT. IT'S COMMERCIAL AS WELL. A QUESTION ABOUT PARKING. SO IF WE'RE INCREASING FROM A 80 SOME ODD BEDS TO 100 AND 40 BEDS. ARE WE INCREASING PARKING ON THE LAND AT ALL? UH, BOARD MEMBER? UH, PETERSON. IF I COULD ANSWER THAT , DURING THE ZONING PORTION OF IT, THIS IS JUST THE LAND USE, BUT I DO HAVE THAT S AVAILABLE DURING THE, UH, ZONING PRESENTATION. OK AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN LAND USE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER. I FEEL LIKE IS THAT UNDER ZONING OUR LAND USE? I'M SORRY. UM BECAUSE I KNOW IN MARTIN COUNTY. THEY HAVE SPECIFIC CODE THAT ADDRESSES THE RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTERS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF CITY OF STEWART DOES THE SHORT ANSWER. UM, LAND USE IS A VERY BROAD, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MATTER THAT CANNOT INCLUDE ZONING. AND AS A RESULT ACTUAL END USE, WHICH MIGHT BE DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR TREATMENT, CENTER, OR RETAIL STORE OR CHURCH OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE AS A ZONING. CONCEPT. LAND USE IS A BROADER SCALE. OF WE COULD HAVE MULTIFAMILY IS WHAT THE CURRENT LAND USE IS ON THIS USE WITHIN MULTIFAMILY. YOU COULD HAVE DUPLEXES AND MULTIPLE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOUSES AND CONDOS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT USES OF ZONING THAT YOU'D GET TO THE LAND USE APPLICA. THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT IS TO CHANGE THE CURRENT LAND USE FROM MULTIFAMILY. TO COMMERCIAL AND ON THIS STAGE OF THE GAME. NONE OF THE ZONING CAN BE USED IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE VOTE. BE CONSIDERATION FOR THE VOTE IS IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NON PLAN? IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES? IS THERE SUFFICIENT? UTILITIES AND OTHER UH ROADS AND THINGS TO SUPPORT WHATEVER THE LAND USE IS AND THE LAND USE. DECISION WOULD BE MADE BY IF THIS LAND USE HAPPENS AND THE ZONING DOESN'T WHATEVER THE ZONING IS. IS THE OUTSTANDING LAND USE THAT REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU ADOPTED. ALL OF THE OTHER USES THAT COULD BE DONE WITHIN THAT LAND USE. WOULD THEY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS? AND IS THAT OK AND IS THAT WHAT THE VISION OF THE COMP PLAN SAYS? IF THE LAND USE WERE TO STAY AS MULTIFAMILY. AND SOMEBODY WAS COMING IN TO SEEK AN APARTMENT BUILDING. THAT'S WHEN YOU'D START GETTING INTO THE LANDSCAPING CODE AND MEETING THE SETBACKS AND MEETING THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AND HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS IT AND IS IT TOO TALL OR TOO SHORT OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT THE LAND USE HAS TO BE LIMITED IN THE STATE STATUTE SAYS THAT WE ACTUALLY AREN'T ALLOWED TO BASE A LAND USE DECISION ON THE ZONING.

THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. I KNOW IT'S SILLY TO SEPARATE THEM BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT THE ONLY REASON THE APPLICANT WANTS TO CHANGE THE I IS OBVIOUSLY TO FINISH THE PROJECT AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM KIND OF KNOWS IT, BUT WE NEED TO KEEP IT SEPARATE FOR THE RECORD. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I KNOW IT'S LIKE A LONG YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OH, THE APPLICANT WANT TO, UH MAKE A STATEMENT. EVENING FOR THE RECORD, BRAD CURRY WITH

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UH, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? OR IS IT JUST DO WE TAKE A VOTE? YOU. MOTION.

THERE'S NO ACTIONS. OK, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE. A CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN DO WE NEED A SECOND THERE OR NO? YES, PLEASE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OH, SECOND.

OK UH AND THEN WE DO A ROLL CALL. OR WE CAN ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN DO THE ROLE PLAY. UH SO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? WE DO HAVE TWO AND I COULD CALL THE FIRST ONE.

IF YOU SO MISS BARBARA PETIT. MS PETIT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS BARBARA PETTIT. I'M A RETIRED RN AND CURRENTLY LIVING IN WILLOUGHBY CRESCENT 956. SOUTHEAST WILL BE RAC AND STEWART CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED FACILITY. MY CONCERNS ARE WITH THE INPATIENT PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH AND RESIDENTIAL DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHABILITATION FACILITY. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? WHO WILL OWN AND OPERATE IT. IS IT REPUTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE? A RESPONSIBLE ENTITY. NUMBER TWO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENSITY OR LEVELS OF CARE BEING OFFERED AT THE CENTER WILL BE NUMBER THREE. WILL THEY LEAVE THE FACILITY, WHICH I THINK IS ALREADY ANSWERED. UH, IT'S AN 84 BETTER WILL THEY BE CREATING MORE SPACE ? AND NOW IT JUST HEARD. IT'S 100 AND 40. SO THAT WAS THE ANSWER. UM I HAVE MULTIPLE SECURITY AND SAFETY CONCERNS AND PROTOCOLS. WHAT WILL BE IN PLACE TO KEEP PATIENTS AS WELL AS ALL THE RESIDENTS THERE AND THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS SAFE. HOW WILL THE PREMISES BE SECURED? HAVE UNDER A I HAVE ALL THE TREATMENT BE INVOLUNTARY. AND THEN WILL THE PATIENTS BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE ON THEIR OWN? SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ABLE TO LEAVE. UM BE TYPICALLY, A LOT OF THESE PATIENTS CAN HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING IN AND OUT OF ALL THE SYSTEMS RELAPSING AND LEAVING OR ELOPING. IT'S NOT ELOPING LIKE RUNNING AWAY AND GETTING MARRIED. ELOPEMENT IS A MEDICAL TERM USED WITH MENTAL HEALTH THAT IS A LEGALLY DEFINED AS A PATIENT WHO IS INCAPABLE OF ADEQUATELY PROTECTING HIMSELF AND WHO DEPARTS THE CARE. HE HEALTH CARE FACILITY ON SUPERVISED AND UNDETECTED. THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. STAFFING. UM WHAT ARE THE STAFF RATIOS REQUIRED FOR THE 140 BEDS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MEDICAL STAFF, THE SECURITY STAFF, THE AUXILIARY STAFF SUCH AS DIETARY HOUSEKEEPING, ET CETERA. WITH MENTAL HEALTH. YOU USUALLY NEED MORE MEDICAL STAFF PER PATIENT. I MEAN, YOU COULD SAY WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION THAT THEY HAVE 30 EMPLOYEES HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CARING FOR THESE MENTAL YOU KNOW THE MEDICAL PART OF THE ASPECT WHETHER OR THE AUXILIARY AND WE ALREADY HAVE A COASTAL DETOX.

IT'S CALLED. IT'S ON THE SAME BLOCK. LITERALLY THEY'RE ONE BLOCK APART ON INDIAN STREET.

IT'S ALREADY SO CLOSE. I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE ZONING LAWS ARE THAT THEY CAN HAVE THESE TWO DETOX FACILITIES SO CLOSE ON THE SAME STREET. IT'S THE END. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. WE HAVE MR SEAN REED. I. I ALSO CAN TO WORRY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WILL BE ANSWERED BY THE NEXT. YES, YEAH. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SEAN REED FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS FOR THE LAND USE, SO I DID LOOK AT THE CITY OF STUART LAND USE AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER PAIN MANAGEMENT CLINIC. THAT'S WHY IT'S COMMERCIAL. LIKE MORTEL MIGHT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT. UM BUT WHEN WE READ MARTIN COUNTY BECAUSE THIS WAS IN MARTIN COUNTY IN 1997. ACCORDING TO THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN SECTION 3.86. IT SAYS SUCH FACILITY SHALL AT NO TIME EXCEED 75 PERSONS RECEIVING INPATIENT TREATMENT, AND THIS APPLIES TO RESIDENTIAL DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHABILITATION AND TREATMENT FACILITIES. IT ALSO SAYS SUCH

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THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS. THESE GUYS ARE ASKING FOR 100 AND 40, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE THANK YOU HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANK YOU APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, AND I AGREE. I THINK A LOT OF THIS WILL ALSO COME UP AS WE DISCUSS THE NEXT AGENDA. AND I HAVE ONE MORE MISS ROSIE SHEPHERD. I KNOW. HI. UM I WAS A FEW MINUTES LATE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, UM IN, UH, REGARDS TO TREATMENT FACILITY. I'M, A FORMER FIREFIGHTER FOR THE DIVISION OF FORESTRY. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT IN THE WOODS AND WHEN I GO OUT THERE AND SEE HOMELESS POPULATION THAT'S LIVING THERE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. NOT UM, ALLOWING FOR A FACILITY TO BE THERE. UH IT'S WE'RE HIDING FROM WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON. UM, SO I AM IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL LAND USE CHANGE. ALSO WITH THE, UM THE NEED FOR UH, JOBS, WITH THE DEALERSHIPS COMING IN. POTENTIALLY UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, TOO. SO THE MORE COMMERCIAL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT WILL SUPPORT THE TRADES AND THAT KIND OF THING ARE WE DEFINITELY HAVE A RETAIL DEFICIT. AND SO THOSE MIXED THINGS MAKE ME IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE CHRISTINA TUCKER. EXCUSE ME, SO I'M ACTUALLY THE OWNER OF THE COASTAL DETOX, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET. UM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED. MR FORBES IS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION BECAUSE WITH, UM 100 AND 40 BEDS, THE AVERAGE STAY IN A FACILITY SUCH AS WE'RE DISCUSSING IS SEVEN DAYS, SO THAT WOULD BE 600 ADMISSIONS PER MONTH IN 600 DISCHARGES PER MONTH. THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF CARS COMING AND GOING. UM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO COMMENT ON IS THE TAXING ON THE EMERGENCY FACILITY, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES WE HAVE 35 INPATIENT BEDS AND WE DON'T DO.

WE DON'T SERVE AS PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH, AND WE HAVE EMERGENCY. POLICE AND EMERGENCY FIRE FIRE TRUCKS. UNFORTUNATELY CALLED TO OUR FACILITIES SEVERAL TIMES A MONTH, SOMETIMES A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK. MENTAL HEALTH. WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER. SEE AS FAR AS NOT AFFECTING THE REAL ESTATE VALUES IN THE AREA. ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. IS INSTITUTIONAL. THAT'S PRIMARY PSYCH. THAT WILL DEFINITELY AFFECT THE PROPERTY. I'M NOT SURE. HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A SITE FACILITY. UM LET'S SEE. AND THE OTHER CONCERNING FACTOR IS AND WE TREAT PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE. WHICH IS ME. MANY OF THEM ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING LOCALLY. THEY'RE GOING BACK. THEY'RE GETTING SET STRAIGHT BACK ON ON TRACK. THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES GOING BACK TO THEIR JOBS. A LOT OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY SENT BY THEIR JOBS UP TO GET BACK ON TRACK. MENTAL HEALTH IS REALLY MENTAL HEALTH IS MOSTLY MEDICATION MANAGEMENT. AND ALTHOUGH THERE IS A GREAT NEED FOR IT IN MOST COUNTIES, SO THEY'RE LOCATED OUT WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH RESIDENTIAL AROUND THEM, SUCH AS IN FORT PIERCE, WE HAVE UM THIS NEW HORIZONS, WHICH IS B ON MIDWAY ROAD. AND IN MARTIN COUNTY. WE DO HAVE CORAL SHORES IS WHICH IS ON COVE. UM A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPL STAY THE SEVENS AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T LEAVE THE AREA. THAT'S ANOTHER MAJOR CONCERN. 100 AND 84 BID MEANT I'M SORRY. 100 AND 40 BED MENTAL HEALTH. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. THANK YOU. RIGHT SO I GUESS WE'LL TAKE A ROLE FOR THE LAND USE. LET ME ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. IS THAT OK? YEAH. SO I GUESS UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE, UM GROUP HOMES ARE ALLOWED. SO HOW IS THIS NOT CONSIDERED A GROUP HOME OR COULDN'T BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE WHY CHANGE THE LAND USE IF WE COULD DO THIS WITHOUT WE ALREADY CHANGED THE LAND. USE ONE TIME TO DO THIS, AND NOW WE'RE CHANGING IT AGAIN. AND UM,

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[5. CLARITY POINTE PUD - REZONE FROM THE CITY OF STUART OFFICIAL ZONING ATLAS FROM RESIDENTIAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT (RPUD) TO THE MIXEDUSE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (MXPUD) ZONING DESIGNATION LOCATED AT 500 SE INDIAN STREET (QJ)(RC):]

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UM THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THEY, UH LEFT ABOUT A MONTH AGO. AND AS PRIVY STATED, THERE IS GOING TO BE NO IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE EXTERIOR OR THE ACTUAL SITE. THEY ARE JUST LOOKING TO, UM DO SOME INTERIOR REMODELING. AGAIN THIS IS THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL IN 2016. THIS IS WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED AS A ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, IN BLUE. THAT IS THE 9.46 ACRES.

BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED IN 2016 AND WAS OCCUPIED IN 2017. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S DAVE TRANSFORMED SOME OF THE LAKES OVER THERE AS THEY LITS AND FOR STORMWATER. THE 1.92 ACRE SITE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS APPROVAL. THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2016. AND THIS IS HOW IT CURRENTLY LOOKS TODAY, AND THIS IS HOW IT WILL BE MAINTAINED IN THE FUTURE. THE SITE DOES, UM, HAVE A ONE STORY 96,713 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 87 EXISTING PARKING SPACES. THEY EXIST THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MET. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR, UM INTERIOR MODELLING. IN 2016 WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED INTO A RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO INCORPORATING THE 1.92 ACRES WITHIN THE WHOLE ENTIRE SITE. UM AT THAT TIME, UH, THERE WAS WHAT LIMITATIONS THAT HAPPENED. UM, THEY DID PRESERVE 2.81 ACRES. AND THAT IS ON THIS EXISTING SITE. UM SO ALL THE WETLAND MITIGATION HAS BEEN MET. AGAIN IN THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL. UH, ALL THE TREES IN UPLAND PRESERVE WAS MET AT THAT TIME. UH, THEY DID PAY INTO THE TREE FUND AND ALSO DID. UM UH UH, HAS AN UPLAND PRESERVE OF 62.61 ACRES IT OPEN SPACE OF THEY PROVIDED 4.50 OF OPEN SPACE. UH THIS POSITION. THIS PETITION CONFORMS WITH THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN SECTION 11.01 0.09 AT THE CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY OF STEWART COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENTS COULD SEE CONSIDER A 40 A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU? SO I GET, I GUESS. IS THIS WHERE THE PARKING SO WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S 87 PARKING SPOTS. 140 BEDS STAFF. GUESTS. I THEY'RE ALLOWED GUESTS. WHERE'S EVERYBODY PARKING ON THIS PROPERTY? ARE WE ADDING PARKING IS PART OF THE THOSE LITTLE SO WHEN THIS FACILITY WAS BUILT IN 2016, THEY WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE 67 PARKING SPACES. SO THEY OVER PARK THE SITE AT THAT TIME, SO WITH THAT OVERFLOW, THEY ARE STILL WITHIN THE, UM THE, UH, REQUIRED THEY'RE STILL UNDER THE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES, EVEN INCREASING THE OCCUPANCY ROOM, TYPICALLY IN A REHAB FACILITY. UM THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THEY DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL CARS AND IN IN THE IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED YOU CAN SEE. THAT THEY ONLY DO A NET 20 TRIPS PER DAY FOR PM AND AM AND PM PEAK TIME. SO THEY DON'T TYPICALLY DRIVE TO THE FACILITY. THEY ARE EITHER BROUGHT TO THE FACILITY, OR, UM TYPICALLY, THEY DON'T STAY WITH THEIR VEHICLES. BUT I THE APPLICANT WOULD PROBABLY PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. UH, CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT? UM, CAN YOU GO TO THAT TRAFFIC GRAPH? SURE, LET ME JUST SEE HERE. THAT'S ON MY OTHER PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO I. I KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS STAFF OR THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE TRAFFIC MANUAL THAT, UM CALCULATES. DETOX OR INPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH. SO IN LIEU OF THAT UM, THEY STUCK WITH THE ANALYSIS AS IF IT WAS A LF PARKING I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BEING COMPARED TO A LF PARKING BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME. I JUST I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN PROOF THAT IT'S THE SAME OR NOT THE SAME. BUT THIS THIS GRAPH TALKS ABOUT PEAK HOUR TRIPS. AND WHAT IT DID IS IT TOOK THE EXISTING AND THEN ADDED THE ADDITIONAL BEDS AND THEN SHOWS THE NET DIFFERENCE. SO IT DOESN'T HIT OVER THE PEAK HOURS.

SO MAYBE I CAN GET CLARIFICATION. BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU LOOK AT, UM SO DOWN BELOW. YOU SEE THE ASSISTED LIVING BEDS AND THEN YOU SEE THE ADDITIONAL BEDS

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BRAD CURRY OF THE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. UM VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING I. I WANTED TO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE PARKING, UM AS JUDY STATED. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT . IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR ABOUT A MONTH. UNFORTUNATELY THE FACILITY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND IS VACANT. AND UM, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO VACANT BUILDINGS . IT WAS A PREVIOUSLY UH, AC FACILITY IN MEMORY CARE FACILITY. VERY SIMILAR TO THE USE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE MEMORY CARE YOU PROBABLY AND THE ASSISTED LIVING, YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE VISITORS.

THERE ARE NO VISITORS ALLOWED FOR DRUG REHAB FOR DETOX OR FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH SO ALL THE PARKING ON SITE WOULD BE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE. MY CLIENT, JASON AKNER, PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HE THINKS ARE GONNA WORK THERE. AND WHEN I GIVE YOU THIS NUMBER YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PARKING SPACES? SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT SO HE'S EXPECTING ABOUT 110 EMPLOYEES AT THIS FACILITY, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS IS A 24 HOUR FACILITY. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING IN SHIFTS IN 38 HOUR SHIFTS, SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE CAN PARK IT WITH THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM IF THE IF, IF THE PROPERTY IF THIS DOES THIS USE DOESN'T GET CHANGED TONIGHT. IF THE ZONING DOESN'T GET CHANGED TO ALLOW FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THAT PROPERTY IS GONNA BE VACANT. I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING, UM, PROJECT BECAUSE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING NEW. I THINK WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT GROWTH AND ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC AND ABOUT BUILDING NEW THINGS AND BRINGING NEW PEOPLE HERE. THIS IS A FACILITY THAT'S ALREADY THERE IF IT'S NOT APPROVED TONIGHT, OR WHEN IT WHEN IT GOES TO OUR FINAL APPROVAL, THEN IT COULD BECOME VACANT. IT COULD BECOME DERELICT AND THIS IS A NICE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE I, UM I VISIT MY DERMATOLOGIST IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS AND SO I'VE BEEN AROUND THE BUILDING QUITE A BIT, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY WELL MAINTAINED. MY CLIENT DOES HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF WORKING IN THESE SORTS OF FACILITIES. UM, HE HAS THREE OTHER FACILITIES AND ABOUT, UM 81 OTHER 81 BEDS AND OTHER FACILITIES HE'S BEEN DOING THIS. UM MR ACKER IS ONE OF MY VERY FIRST CLIENTS WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING THIS, SO HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, SO HE'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS AND HE'S HE'S GONNA COME UP AND SPEAK AFTER I'M DONE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS. UM THE CITY. UM I YOU KNOW THE SLY FACILITIES WE TALK ABOUT USES COMING AND GOING. YOU SPOKE ABOUT THAT? AND I THINK THAT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERSATURATED OF FACILITIES BUILT NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF STEWART, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. UH MR AGNER IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A FACILITY UP IN WILDWOOD AS WELL. VERY IDENTICAL, THE IDENTICAL FACILITY UP IN WILDWOOD THAT HAS GONE OUT OF BUSINESS AS WELL. SO THESE FACILITIES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TO SEE A SE TO REUSE A BUILDING THAT IF IT DOESN'T GET WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GET FILLED WITH ANOTHER ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY BECAUSE WE THINK THAT THAT THAT MARKET IS NOT THERE, SO THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL. UM TALKED ABOUT THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE. WE TRIED TO GET IT APPROVED UNDER THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE AND JUST COME BACK IN FOR A REZONING, BUT, UM, MR MARTEL AND JODY BOTH STATED THAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT THESE FOLKS THAT COME TO THIS FACILITY ARE NOT RESIDENTS. THEY DON'T GET THEIR MAIL HERE. MR MARTEL SAID THAT AND IT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO ME. SO THIS IS MORE OF A OF A SHORT TERM STAY.

UH, THERE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT USES. THE DETOX WAS DISCUSSED BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THE DETOX USES A 75 TO 7 DAY, UH, PERIOD, BUT IT'S ALSO A REHAB AND A REHAB.

TYPICALLY 30 TO 45 DAYS AND SOMETIMES LONGER, SO WE DO HAVE THAT THAT OTHER TYPE OF USE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE? JASON WILL BE ABLE TO PROBABLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. HE'S GONNA COME UP AND SPEAK. UM JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN. REDEVELOPMENT NOT NEW DEVELOPMENT. UM AND JASON WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE'S PROPOSING. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER JASON IS DONE, AND WE WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY TO COME UP AND READDRESS THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR CURRY. I'M SORRY YOU MENTIONED WE WERE TALKING LIKE I SAID ABOUT THE MEMORY CARE COMING AND GOING. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR A NURSE

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UH YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL AT THE CORNER. YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST OF US FILLING IN THE COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE USE IS, FROM A PURE PLANNING THEORY STANDPOINT, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT WHOLE SECTION ON THE SOUTH SIDE COMMERCIAL. IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOW BECAUSE YOU GO COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL AND THEN COMMERCIAL AGAIN. SO THE LAND USE WHETHER WHATEVER USE IS THERE IT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IS THE ZONING IS AND IT AND IT IS ATTACHED TO A PLAN. SO IF IT DOES CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, AND IT COULD CHANGE, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO CHANGE THE USE TO ANYTHING HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF A PUD. SOMETHING ELSE CAN'T GO IN THERE WITHOUT THIS BOARD, KNOWING ABOUT IT WITHOUT THE LP A KNOWING ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY THE ZONING THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING IS SUCH A GOOD TOOL FOR THE CITY BECAUSE IT REQUIRES ANY CHANGE IN THAT USE. YOU CAN'T JUST SLIP IN THERE. THEY CAN'T SCREW THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT. THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS TO THIS GROUP TO GET IT APPROVED SO WHE WHETHER IT GOES OUT OF BUSINESS OR IT DOESN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS. WHATEVER THE NEXT USE IS, IT'S IF IT IF THIS PROJECT GETS APPROVED, IT'S LOCKED IN TO THE USED A NUMBER OF BEDS, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT HAS TO COME BACK BEFORE THE SPORT. AND I GUESS TO THAT POINT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BUILDING GOING DERELICT IF IT WERE TO STAY EMPTY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH HIS PROPERTY IN PALM BEACH COUNTY THAT IT WAS LEFT AND THERE WERE SOME FINES LEVIED. IS THAT NOT? I MEAN, I MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD IT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW THIS WOULD CHANGE IF HE CAME HERE. A DOESN'T OWN THIS PROPERTY, SO I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER. IF ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED, UM AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT HE HAS A COUPLE OF TWO FACILITIES THAT I KNOW OF IN THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE THAT ARE SOME OF THE BEST PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PALM BEACH IS HE HAS 81 BEDS ACROSS THREE FACILITIES. SO ARE THEY ALL ABOUT 25 OR SO BEDS KIND OF THAT WAS WONDERING IF BECAUSE THIS JUST SEEMED LARGER THAN WHAT IS MAYBE TYPICAL. BUT I'M I'M NOT SURE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TYPICAL JASON. UM LIKE TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE COMMENTS. NOT ANY SPECIFIC ORDER. UM BUT FIRST OF ALL, TO THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR ORGANIZATION. I'VE NEVER OWNED A FACILITY IN BROWARD COUNTY AT ANY POINT IN TIME. UM I OWN SEVERAL FACILITIES IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, WHICH JODY WAS PART OF THE APPROVAL, AND WE BROUGHT A LOT OF JOBS, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF JOBS THAT THE NORTH PALM BEACH AREA UM WE'VE NEVER HAD A VIOLENT CRIME INCIDENT.

ONCE IN OVER 16 YEARS IN ANY OF MY FACILITIES. WE'VE NEVER HAD TO CALL THE POLICE AND HAVE ANYBODY REMOVED. IN FACT, I WOULD RATHER LIVE NEXT TO A REHAB PERSONALLY THAN TO LIVE NEXT TO SOME NEIGHBORS, EVEN IN AN AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN. THAT THAT'S JUST BEING VERY HONEST. I HAVE A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET THAT HAS SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT HAS PULLED GUNS ON NEIGHBORS IN IN A GATED COMMUNITY, THE PATIENTS IN OUR FACILITY THEY'RE MONITORED.

24 7. THEY'RE SOBER. THEY'RE CLEAN. WE KNOW IT BECAUSE WE'RE DRUG TESTING THEM. WE'RE DOING BREATHALYZERS. THEY'RE ENGAGED IN THERAPY. THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THEY WANNA BE THERE. WE TREAT PROFESSIONALS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS WE'VE TREATED RELATIVES OF FORMER PRESIDENTS. UM, WE'RE NOT A LOCKDOWN FACILITY. WE ARE NOT A COURT ORDERED FACILITY. UM THE FACILITIES IN NORTH PALM BEACH. THEY WERE SHUT DOWN FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON. THEY WEREN'T SHUT DOWN. THEY WERE CLOSED, AND I SOLD THE BUILDING FOR A LOT OF MONEY. THEY WERE CLOSED DURING COVID BECAUSE IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE TO HAVE AN IN NETWORK AND AN OUT OF NETWORK FACILITY.

WE HAD OVER 400 BEDS BETWEEN, UH PALM BEACH, MARTIN AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, AND WE HAD TO CONSOLIDATE AS A RESULT OF COVID. ABILITY TO GET QUALITY STAFF TO STAY. THEY WERE SCARED, HAVING TO QUARANTINE PEOPLE AND ISOLATE ENTIRE WINGS, UH, REDUCED OUR ABILITY TO HAVE ENOUGH ADMISSIONS TO COVER OUR OVERHEAD AND WE CARRIED IT AS LONG AS WE COULD UNTIL WE CONSOLIDATED. NOW WE'RE RAMPING. BACK UP. UM AT NO TIME WAS OUR FACILITY. SHUT DOWN. WE FINISHED TREATING EVERY SINGLE PATIENT THEY WERE DISCHARGED APPROPRIATELY TO AFTERCARE PLANS WHERE THEY WENT. UM AS IT RELATES TO, UM MISS TUCKER'S COMMENTS. I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S AWARE, BUT I USED TO OWN UNITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNITY RECOVERY CENTER LAKESIDE TREATMENT CENTER, AND WE'VE BEEN A REFERRAL SOURCE FOR THEM FOR YEARS. I KNOW THAT HER SON ROSS HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH DAVID KNIFFEN, JASON LEVY, STEPHANIE MATTHEWS, ALL EMPLOYEES OF MINE, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WE ONLY TAKE OUT OF NETWORK INSURANCE. UH, PP OS. WE GET 200 PHONE CALLS A MONTH FOR HM OS WITH OUR CURRENT SIZE OPERATION WITH THIS BUILDING. WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE 400 M OS TO REFER OUT A MONTH AND I KNOW THEY'RE IN NETWORK WITH MOST, IF NOT

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THE INCOME APPROACH TO THE APPRAISAL NOW MAKES THIS PROPERTY WORTH OVER $20 MILLION.

SO IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, MY USE BEING APPROVED IS ACTUALLY GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE PROPERTY VALUE. UM AS FAR AS THE USE AS EVERYONE SEES. IT'S GONNA BE WEDGED BETWEEN TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THERE'S SO THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOODS IF A PERSON WAS TO WALK OUT A, UH, B, WE DO HAVE MAG LOCK DOORS THAT HAVE T FOBS BADGES. WE HAVE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, AND WE EVEN HAVE MONITOR BRACELETS WITH SENSORS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE A PATIENT IS IN A BUILDING AT ANY TIME. WE CANNOT HOLD THEM THERE AGAINST THEIR WILL. BUT IF WE SEE THAT A PERSON IS MENTALLY UNWELL, THEY'RE IRATE. WE CAN NOTIFY THE PARAMEDICS, THE POLICE AND THEN THEY CAN COME THERE. THEN WE CAN STALL WITH THE MAG LOCKS UNTIL THEY COME AS FAR AS THE USE AND THE BREAKDOWN . WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE EIGHT MENTAL HEALTH BEDS. I HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY IN THE CITY OF ROCKLEDGE AND I HAVE ONE IN PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA.

THAT'S PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. THE EIGHT THAT WE'RE HAVING IS NOT FOR PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS THAT THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES DON'T WANT TO. RISE FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE BECAUSE MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T DRUNK IT AND BEEN DRUNK ENOUGH. MAYBE THEY HAVE THE OVERDOSED ENOUGH, BUT THEY HAVE SEVERE DEPRESSION. UM THEY HAVE ANXIETY AND THEY USE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AS A MEANS TO COPE WITH THOSE THINGS. SO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL SAY, HEY, WE'LL AUTHORIZE YOU TO TREAT THEM FOR MENTAL HEALTH BUT NOT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A SEVERE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEM, SO THAT'S OUR WAY OF BEING ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CRITERIA TO GET SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. THEY DO REQUIRE OBVIOUSLY MORE INTENSIVE CARE, AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT HERE.

ONLY EIGHT OF THE BEDS WILL BE LICENSED FOR PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH. UH, WE'RE GONNA LICENSE APPROXIMATELY 24 BEDS FOR DETOX. AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER. LET'S SAY 84 TO 88 OR SO DON'T HOLD ME TO THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE AT ANY TIME GONNA HAVE 100 AND 40 PATIENTS THERE BECAUSE SOME OF THE BEDROOMS WERE GONNA CONVERT TO OFFICES OR PHYSICAL THERAPY AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES THAT WE DO FOR AMENITIES THAT WE PROVIDE PATIENT. THERE IS A BARBER SHOP IN THERE. THERE'S A SALON. THERE IS A SPA. THE PATIENTS WILL NOT HAVE TO LEAVE THE SITE FOR ANY REASON. ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH IT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF YOU HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE FLOOR PLAN, IT HAS A COURTYARD WHERE EVERYTHING IS CENTRALIZED INSIDE. NOBODY WILL BE OUTSIDE SMOKING CIGARETTES. NO PATIENT WILL EVER HAVE TO STEP FOOT INTO A PUBLIC AREA. THEY WILL BE CONGREGATING IN THE COURTYARD OR IN THE RESPECTIVE CORRIDORS. THE BUILDING IS VERY UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT IT HAS FOUR SEPARATE CORRIDORS, WHICH EACH LOCK DOWN SO THERE WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN 35 PEOPLE IN ANY WING AT A TIME, SO YOU GOTTA VIEW IT ALMOST AS 35 LITTLE TREATMENT CENTERS THAT ARE TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE SEPARATED BY STEEL DOORS WITH MAG LOCKS THAT ONLY OUR PERSONNEL HAS ACCESS TO. UM ALL OF THEIR MEALS. WE HAVE A FULL KITCHEN. ALL OF THEIR MEALS WILL BE PROVIDED. UM OTHER THAN HAVING TO GO OFF SITE FOR, UH, MAYBE THE HOSPITAL FOR SOMETHING . THEY HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT THAT'S BEYOND WHAT WE CAN TREAT. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO RELEASE THE 110 APPROXIMATE EMPLOYEES THAT'S NOT ONLY 365 DAYS A YEAR 25 24 HOURS A DAY. IT'S SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SO IF YOU TAKE THAT STAPH AND DIVIDE IT BY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 30 OR SOMETHING. CARS THAT ARE THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UM, WE DON'T ALLOW VISITATION AND DETOX RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE NOT A SEVEN DAY OR A FIVE DAY PROGRAM OR A 45 DAY PROGRAM AND WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR PATIENTS. AND WE HAVE OUTPATIENT PROGRAMS IN PORT SAINT LUCIA, WHICH THEY WOULD TRANSFER TO, BECAUSE WE KEEP THEM IN OUR CARE AND PROVIDE CONTINUED CARE SO THAT THEY CAN GET ESTABLISHED IN THE WORKFORCE IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY WORKING. BUT PROBABLY HALF OF OUR PATIENTS LIKE I SAID, ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT GO BACK HOME TO THEIR HUSBANDS OR WIVES, THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY RESUME THEIR JOBS. BUT WE STILL KEEP IN TOUCH, AND WE DO TELEHEALTH, UM, TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED TO ENSURE THAT THEY THEY GET THEIR FIRST YEAR OF RECOVERY UNDER THEIR BELT. SORRY. IF I'M SPEAKING FAST, MY MOUTH'S DRY I HAD TO MEET WITH THE DEA ALL DAY TODAY.

I HAD TO MEET WITH CIGNA TODAY. I HAD THE CIGNA COME IN IN PERSON. YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE, UM, SO I'VE BEEN TALKING FOR, LIKE, 12 HOURS IN MY MOUTH DRY. I APOLOGIZE. UM JUST SO YOU KNOW. DAVE AHNG AND AL JOHNSON SPEAK VERY HIGHLY OF OUR FACILITIES. THEY'RE VERY CLOSE WITH OUR CHIEF NEUROSCIENTIST, AND THEY'VE WRITTEN A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION ON OUR BEHALF. I HAVE LETTERS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT WE DO THE SCHOLARSHIPS WE DONATE TO PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TREATMENT, AND THAT WOULDN'T GET HELP. OTHERWISE, UM. I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS YOU SAID THAT THERE'S 100 AND 10 EMPLOYEES. UM DO YOU KNOW? DO YOU HAVE LIKE THE MIX OF WHAT THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE IN TERMS OF SECURITY IN TERMS OF ROUGHLY, IT

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THERE IS NO FRONT YARD. THERE IS NO SIDE ENTRANCES. EVERYTHING IS SELF CONTAINED. THE OUTSIDE IS WITHIN. IT'S LIKE THE PENTAGON. IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE THAT, SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE INSIDE, SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOBODY WOULD EVEN KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE. TO BE HONEST, UM THE CURRENT OWNER, UM, OWNED NINE OF THESE FACILITIES. SIX OF THEM ARE GOING UNDER AND THE BANK WANTS TO FORECLOSE. HE'S A VERY WEALTHY INDIVIDUAL. HE'S VERY STUBBORN, HE SAYS. I'LL HOLD THE PROPERTY FOREVER. I PUT 35 MILLION INTO IT. I'M NOT. I'M NOT GETTING RID OF IT FOR NEXT TO NOTHING. UM, THE BANK IS, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING WITH HIM. THAT PROPERTY. YOU KNOW WHO KNOWS HOW LONG IT COULD SIT THERE VACANT, UM AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE WE'RE GOING TO, UM, ACTUALLY CAUSE THE VALUES OF THE SURROUNDING VALUES TO APPRECIATE , ESPECIALLY WHEN I PURCHASE IT BECAUSE THE PURCHASE OPTION I HAVE IS 50% ABOVE THE APPRAISE AMOUNT RIGHT NOW. JUST FOR THE RECORD. I CERTAINLY WEREN'T YOU DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY. SO WHEN ARE YOU BUYING THE PURCHASE? SO UM, I HAVE AN OPTION WITH THE THREE YEARS SO IT'S A THREE YEAR LEASE AND I CAN PURCHASE ANY TIME AFTER THE FIRST YEAR. I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF DOING SO. AND I'M ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE SAME OWNER, UM, IN THE VILLAGES IN THE CITY OF WILDWOOD TO ACQUIRE THE IDENTICAL BUILDING. I'M ACTUALLY HEADING UP THERE AFTER I LEAVE HERE FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS TO TOUR THERE AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. UH, YOUR PRIMARY MENTAL HEALTH. DOES THAT MEAN UH, SOMEONE CAN GET BANK RAFTED IN YOUR FACILITY? NO WE'RE NOT A BAKER RECEIVING FACILITY. WE DON'T TREAT THE SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL LIKE IF YOU'RE YOU KNOW, ACUTE SCHIZOPHRENIC OR THINGS LIKE THAT WE REFER THEM TO APPROPRIATE FACILITIES. WE'RE TREATING PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR DEPRESSION. UM, ANXIETY PTSD THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. WE HAVEN'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, MENTALLY INSANE, CRIMINALLY INSANE. WE SCREEN PEOPLE OUT. WE DON'T ALLOW SEX OFFENDERS, VIOLENT OFFENDERS ANY ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN OUR FACILITIES. SO ARE YOU GETTING YOUR, UM RESIDENTS, PATIENTS PRIMARILY FROM THE COURT SYSTEM FROM THE HOSPITALS A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, NEITHER WE GET PROBABLY 10, MAYBE 10% OR ALUMNI. MAYBE 5% ARE PROFESSIONAL REFERRALS IN THE OTHER 85% ARE WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR ONLINE ADVERTISING? OK AND THEN, UM, THE ONE OF THE LADIES IN THE AUDIENCE HAD MENTIONED THAT, UM, ABOUT THE, UM ER VISITS AND STUFF AND HOW MANY TIMES AMBULANCES AND POLICE ARE COMING TO THE FACILITY, AND IT IS OFTEN WE'VE HAD SOMEONE TAKEN OUT BY EMS MAYBE 2 TO 3 TIMES A MONTH.

ACROSS ALL YOUR FACILITIES OR BUT AGAIN IF THAT SOMETIMES WE GO A MONTH WITHOUT HAVING AN INCIDENT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE EXISTING APPROVAL, I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY COMPARABLE.

THE NUMBER OF VISITS BY THE AMBULANCE WITH THE WITH THE TYPE OF THAT'S WHY THIS NEWS IS SO THESE WERE GREAT, BUT THAT'S WHY THEY USE THIS USE IS GREAT FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT FITS IN THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THE AMOUNT OF VISITORS THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES THE AMOUNT OF, UM AMBULANCES THAT ATTEND OR THAT THAT VISIT. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE USE, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN IT TO WHERE YOU HAVE A YOU THAT'S VACATED AND THEN YOU COME IN A MONTH LATER. THAT'S SO CLOSE TO WHAT WAS THERE AND NOT TO SOUND CLICHE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT FACILITY. EVERYBODY THAT LEFT THERE WAS LEAVING THERE IN AN AMBULANCE WITHOUT A PULSE. WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE OUR FACILITY, THEY LEAVE THEIR RESTORED WITH HOPE WITH JOY IN THEIR EYES, WITH THEIR FAMILY, ACCEPTING THEM BACK WITH THEIR JOBS, ACCEPTING THEM BACK, AND TO SEE THAT CHANGE IN PEOPLE IS NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING. THAT'S WHY I DO WHAT I DO. I MADE A LOT OF MONEY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IN REAL

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UM SO, JASON BEFORE YOU DO THAT, LET ME JUST STATE THAT HE DID GO AND MEET WITH, UH, A CONTRACTOR WITH AN ARCHITECT AND WITH THE CITY STEWART BUILDING OFFICIAL AND WALKED THIS ENTIRE BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE ANY SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATIONS, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS VERY LITTLE RENOVATIONS THAT HAD TO TAKE PLACE FROM THE EVENT. I THERE. HERE UP UNTIL HERE. FROM HERE TO HERE IS THE DOTS PROVIDER'S OFFICE NURSES, DOCTORS. FROM THERE, SO OVER HERE UM SORRY. OK? THERE YOU GO. HERE FIRST. UH, BARBER SHOP. AND SO THERE'S THE SEA BANK BLOCK BEFORE. HERE. HERE. THERE'S A MAIN NATIONAL SO NOBODY I MEAN, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO OUTSIDE. YOU. BOXES. THE WHAT ABOUT GREEN THERE. THEN YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER SET OF HERE. THIS WILL BE RESIDENTIAL. BACK OVER HERE. THIS ONE OF THESE AS ITS OWN DINING AREA, SO RECREATIONAL AREA LIVING ROOM. SEVEN MALO. APPROXIMATELY EIGHT. MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PATIENTS HERE THAT HAVE, UH MORE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS DIVISIONS. AND THEN THE REST WILL BE PRESIDENTIAL ALCO. BEING. THEY WILL ALL BE SEPARATED SEPARATE PROGRAMS. SEPARATE THERAPISTS SEPARATE SUFFERS THE ACTIVITY ROOMS. UM THEY ALL HAVE SE SEPARATE, SCHEDULED TIMES FOR THE SPA AND, UH, ANCILLARY SERVICES, CHIROPRACTIC MASSAGE, PHYSICAL THERAPY, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT IS VERY UNIQUE. I ACTUALLY LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM A REHAB CENTER. THAT'S COMPLETELY WIDE OPEN, AND I HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS AT FIRST ABOUT SECURITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, BUT THE REALITY IT HASN'T BEEN WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE AND THAT, UH, THE PEOPLE ARE THERE TO GET HELP. UH VERSUS BEING FORCED AND THEY CAN LEAVE AT ANY TIME, AT LEAST FOR THOSE FOLKS. SO UM, I DO DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE SECURITY CONCERNS, BUT I DO LIKE HOW THE THIS SEEMS LIKE THE VERY HANDS ON A LOT OF A LOT OF REHAB CENTERS. UM THE OWNERS AREN'T HANDS ON MY WIFE'S THE CEO. I'M THE CEO. WE TAKE CALLS 24 HOURS A DAY, AND IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE FEEL IS UN UNHEALTHY FOR THE OTHER PATIENTS NOTWITHSTANDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE GONNA DISCHARGE THEM OR REFER THEM OUT TO ANOTHER FACILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM COMPROMISING THE OTHER PATIENT'S TREATMENT FIRST AND FOREMOST THE SAFETY OF THE PATIENTS. WELL BEING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE THERE TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE AS OUR PRIORITY, AND IF WE MAKE THAT OUR PRIORITY, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY, BECAUSE IF OUR PATIENTS ARE WELL AND THEY'RE HEALTHY, THEY'RE NOT A THREAT TO ANYBODY. AND IF SOMEONE'S A THREAT FOR ANY REASON. THEY'RE GOING TO BE A THREAT TO OUR PATIENTS WAY BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM NOT ONLY OUT OF A FACILITY, WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO ARE THEY ALLOWED TO LEAVE? I MEAN, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. JASON AND I HAVE, UM, DONE THIS BEFORE. SO, JASON, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO LEAVE? IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. FIRST WE'LL STAFF THEM CLINICALLY MEDICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT THE REASONS FOR LEAVING OR THEY WANT TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DRINK OR USE DRUGS. DO THEY WANNA LEAVE? BECAUSE THEIR SPOUSE SERVES THEM WITH DIVORCE PAPERS. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND IDENTIFY. WHY UM, DO YOU HAVE SOME PATIENTS? OCCASIONALLY THAT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I JUST WANT A DRINK. AND YOU GUYS CAN'T STOP ME. AND I'M GONNA GO FIND THE NEAREST BAR. YES IT DOES HAPPEN. WE CAN'T HOLD THEM AGAINST THEIR WILL. IF THEY'RE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES, WE CAN BAKER ACT THEM AND WE WORK WITH FOR SAINT LUCIE HOSPITAL AND NEW HORIZONS IF WE HAD TO DO SO. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT A DANGER TO OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE NOT A DANGER TO THEMSELVES. OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO DRINK AND PROBABLY EVENTUALLY DIE AS A RESULT OF DRINKING AND WE HAVE TO LET THEM GO. UM, WE DON'T DISCHARGE THEM AS IF THEY CAME IN WITH ANY NARCOTIC SUBSTANCES MEDICATIONS. WE DID NOT HAND THOSE BACK TO THEM. UM THEY THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET POLICE INVOLVED AND BRING POLICE FOR THE POLICE TO ORDER US TO GIVE THEM BACK AND THE POLICE WILL USUALLY DESTROY THEM AT THAT POINT. SO IT'S NOT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. WE'VE NEVER BUT IS IT LITERALLY LIKE, JUST OPEN THE DOORS AND BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT COMING WITH CARS, SO IF YOU'RE DISCHARGING THEM, YOU MAY BE AGAINST METAPHOR. ADVICE DON'T DISCHARGE THEM LIGEKE THA. IF WE DISCHARGE THEM, WE TAKE THEM TO A HOSPITAL. BUT YEAH, UBER EXACTLY. WE TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL IF WE IF WE'RE

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ON SIXTH STREET, I THINK, BUT IN THE MORNINGS WHEN I GO TO THE GYM AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND I I'LL SEE 30 MEN. AND JUST LAST WEEK, I WAS SAYING THESE ARE HANDSOME. GOOD LOOKING MAN. THEY'RE JUST WHAT WHAT IS? WHAT IS THIS PLACE? THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PRODUCTIVE. THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO WORK. YOU KNOW, WE GET SO CONCERNED ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WANNA THROW EVERYTHING OUT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE HOLD. WE HOLD THIS HONOR TO WHAT? UM YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAYS THAT HE'LL DO.

AND I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO NEED HELP. AND YOU KNOW IF IT CAN HELP PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, I KNOW HE'S GONNA GO A FIELD TO FIND THE OTHER 88, OR, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF IT MAY BE TAKING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK THERE'S PLENTY IN FLORIDA. YEAH YEAH. SO YOU KNOW, WE FREQUENTLY PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS TO PEOPLE THAT SERIOUSLY WANT HELP, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND THEY'VE NEVER BEEN GIVEN A SHOT BY ANYBODY. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PATIENTS AS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT ARE FREQUENT REHAB HOPPERS. THEY USE THEIR INSURANCE CARD LIKE A HOTEL CARD AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IF SOMEONE'S NOT SERIOUS ABOUT OUR PROGRAM, WE'RE GONNA REFER THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE IF THEY WANNA GO AND JUST USE THEIR INSURANCE

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AND IF THEY SHOW A TRUE DESIRE TO CHANGE AND THEY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIFE, THEN YES, WE WILL HELP THEM AND WE WILL GIVE THEM SCHOLARSHIPS, BUT THOSE PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO WORK TWICE AS HARD. WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM SOMETHING FOR FREE JUST FOR THEM TO COME IN AND TAKE A SHOWER AND GET A MEAL LIKE LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER PLACES. UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S 1000 PEOPLE STANDING BEHIND THEM THAT THAT WANT HELP PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR PARENTS AND THEY USE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AS A WAY TO COPE BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE IN SUCH GRIEF, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN AND THEY HAVE NOBODY TO HELP THEM. PEOPLE LIKE THAT. WE WELCOME INTO OUR FACILITY AND HELP OUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS I I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS BEFORE WAS THAT MARTIN COUNTY HAS ZONING I I'M NOT SURE IF I'M EVEN USING THE CORRECT TERM FOR THESE FACILITIES, AND THEY LIMIT IT TO 75 BEDS AND NOT WITHIN A HALF MILE THIS BUT MARTIN COUNTY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF IN OUR POS. IF SO, WHY WOULD WE NOT LIMIT IT TO 75 BEDS AND OR AND WE'RE ALSO WITHIN THAT HALF MILE , SO WE'RE KIND OF BREAKING TWO OF THOSE RULES, AND THIS IS LARGER THAN IT SEEMS, IS STANDARD SO I CAN SPEAK TO PART OF THAT. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S 85 UNITS, RIGHT? AND THESE WERE UNITS FOR PEOPLE FOR END OF LIFE TO LIVE THERE FOR A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AND THE UNITS ARE VERY LARGE, SO IT'S NOT 85 BEDS. IT'S 85 UNITS. UM, SOME OF THOSE UNITS, YOU COULD FIT EIGHT BEDROOMS AND EIGHT BEDS IN THERE. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE MORE THAN TWO BEDS IN A ROOM. UM BUT THEY ARE SET UP FOR 85 UNITS AND TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE UNITS THEY HAVE A HALF WALL. THAT'S PROBABLY 8 FT. HIGH AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 100 AND 20 SQUARE FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE HALF WALL. THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE ENTRANCE, AND THEY HAVE A COMMON BATHROOM THAT THEY SHARE THAT'S CONSIDERED ONE UNIT, BUT THAT'S EASILY ONE BET ON EACH SIDE. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON IT WAS SET UP, BUT THE COUNTY LIMITS TO 75 PEOPLE, NOT BEDS OR UNITS OR RIGHT AT 75 PEOPLE. I THINK, ACCORDING TO THE THIS. RIGHT NOW. UM, I COULD PROBABLY FIND IT FOR YOU. GIVE ME A MOMENT, BUT IT IS IT IS IN THIS. MAYBE I'M CONFUSED. THIS IS THE CITY OF STEWART, BUT ITS IT AND IT USED TO BE MARTIN COUNTY AND WE DON'T HAVE A CODE. SO WHY ARE WE LIKE DOUBLING? WHAT'S ALLOWED AND ALSO DOING IT WITHIN HALF A MILE WHEN THE COUNTY WOULDN'T DO THAT, AND WE DON'T HAVE A CODE NECESSARILY TO SPEAK OF. UH UH, BUT I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION II I READ OUT WERE ABOUT 116 ABOUT 100 AND 40, NOT 100 AND 60. SO I'M GETTING MUCH CLOSER TO THAT NUMBER OF THE CODE THAT DOESN'T EXIST. BUT I'M GETTING MUCH CLOSER TO IT, 116. SO YOU'RE GOING TO LIMIT IT TO 116 PEOPLE.

I'D HATE TO PUT THAT IN WRITING, BUT I IT IT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA COME OUT TO BE CLOSE TO THE ONES. IT IT BASED ON OUR PLANS FOR THE BEDROOMS. WE'RE GONNA CONVERT THE THERAPY OFFICES AND STUFF. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING ABOUT 100 AND 16 BEDS. COULD IT BE 100 AND 22? MAYBE IT COULD BE 100 AND 12. YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE, BUT WE WON'T. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE YEAH. I MEAN, I KNOW. YEAH, I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS A COUNTY RULE. AND THIS IS THE CITY. UM I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THE BUILDINGS PARTITIONED OUT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S SEPARATE BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF HOW WELL IT'S INTERESTING. YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA DC F VIEWS THAT AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE LICENSING IT AS WELL. EACH WING IS GONNA HAVE A SEPARATE INDEPENDENT LICENSE. AND THEY THEY EACH EACH, UH, WING IS ALSO GONNA BE ACCREDITED BY A JOINT COMMISSION SEPARATELY AS WELL, TOO. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR CURRENT FACILITIES HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ACCREDITATION THAT YOU CAN YEAH, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUES WAS THE MENTAL HEALTH. AND HOW MANY BEDS IN THERE? UM AND AGAIN, THE TRUE MENTAL HEALTH WE WON'T BE TREATING AT THE AT THIS PLACE.

THESE ARE FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE TREATING THEIR ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL IN THE INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T WANT TO AUTHORIZE THEM FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE CARE. TITLE.

I DIDN'T TITLE THAT. IT ON THE AGENDA. BECAUSE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T TITLE IT NUMBER ONE AND

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SPECIFICALLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SITTING HERE. TO TENSIONS. FIND THE CORRECT BALANCE AND DO THE RIGHT THING. AND I THINK AND ON THE WAS PROBABLY TOUGH. BUT SAYING THAT THERE'S SITTING ON THE SIDE OF THAN THEY WANT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BEDS OR HOW MANY ROOMS ACROSS THE STREET CAN JUST SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER. SO WE OBVIOUSLY WILL FIND THOSE BALANCES AND HAVE ONE. IT IS THAT POINT. NOT THAT IT'S ENTIRELY RELEVANT, BUT A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE WITH BEDROOMS OF THIS SIZE WITH THESE TYPE OF AMENITIES, MOST OPERATORS IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO WOULD HAVE 2 TO 300 PEOPLE IN THERE, AND THEY WOULD BE IN THERE COMFORTABLY, TOO, BECAUSE IT'S THAT LARGE. UM THERE IS A NUMBER AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. I KNOW. YOU GUYS ARE GONNA ASK ME AT WHICH THE FINANCES OF THE DEAL DON'T BECOME VIABLE IF THERE CAN'T BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT'S PROVED. UM I DON'T SAY IT HAS TO BE 100 AND 40. IT MAY BE 116. IT MAY BE 122, BUT, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S I THINK, 85 BEDROOMS, SO THE 85 BEDROOMS IF WE PUT TWO PATIENTS A BEDROOM, THAT'D BE 100 AND 70 PATIENTS. I'M NOT REQUESTING THAT AT ALL. SO MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS HAVE A NUMBER NOT TO EXCEED. BY THE TIME SO HOW IS THAT REGULATED LIKE ONCE? HOW DOES THE CITY OF STEWART REGULATE THAT? YOU KEEP 12 FOR MENTAL HEALTH? HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CLASSIFICATION IS ON ANY GIVEN TIME? THERE'S 100 AND SOME ODD PEOPLE THERE IS SOMEBODY CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SO MANY MENTAL HEALTH FOOD, THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THAT'S PART OF OUR LICENSING PROCESS, WHICH WILL GO TO ACCA, WHICH WILL GO TO DC F, AND THEY WANT LICENSE FOR MORE THAN WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER STATES AS APPROVED. AND THEY COME DO PERIODIC CHECKS AND WE HAVE AUDITS AND, YOU KNOW, INSPECTIONS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. EDITORS. I MEAN, I KNOW OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

COMPETITORS. ON IT. THE BUSINESS. MAYBE LET US KNOW IF THERE'S AN ISSUE TELL US WHAT ABOUT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. BUT MY CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND HOW IT WAS CALCULATED. I AGAIN MAY NOT BE YOU. MAYBE BRAD CAN HELP YOU.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE, UH I DON'T HAVE THE YEAH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL OVER 50% OF OUR PATIENTS ARE PICKED UP EITHER AT , UH PALM BEACH, FORT LAUDERDALE ORLANDO AIRPORT AND THEIR TRANSPORTED IN AND, UH, LIKE SPRINTER VANS. UM SO THAT THERE'S NOT ANY CARS COMING IN THAT ASPECT PATIENTS THAT ARE DROPPED OFF BY FAMILY. UM THERE MAY BE THERE FOR 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, AND THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING 50 ADMISSIONS A DAY, YOU MIGHT DO A HANDFUL OF ADMISSIONS A DAY, AND MORE THAN HALF OF THEM ARE PICKED UP AT THE AIRPORT. YOU MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO FAMILY DRIVE INS, UM, AND AS FAR AS THE EMPLOYEES LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE MORE THAN 3035 EMPLOYEE CARS THERE AT ANY TIME BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WORKING 38 HOUR SHIFTS. SO IF YOU TAKE THE 110 EMPLOYEES, AND THIS IS WE WERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. BUT LET'S ASSUME IT'S FIVE JUST FOR THE MATH. YOU TAKE 100 AND 10 DIVIDED BY THREE. WHAT IS THAT? 35 ROUGHLY SO ITS 35 EMPLOYEE CARS THAT WOULD BE THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. YOU FIGURE MY CAR AND MY WIFE'S CAR. SO YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY RIDE TOGETHER AT 3637. BUT NOW YOU'RE AVERAGING OVER SEVEN DAYS. NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT 25 TO 30 CARS MAXIMUM OF TIME, IF NOT LESS. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL FIND THE PARKING LOT WILL BE RELATIVELY EMPTY. AND EMPLOYEES WILL BE PARKING

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THERE'S GOTTA BE A DIFFERENCE IN IMPACT. IT'S IT MAY BE MINOR, AND I MAY BE OVERBLOWING THIS BUT THE FACT THAT JUST A TRAFFIC STATEMENT SAYING, OH, WE'RE GOING TO EQUATE IT TO THIS. AND THEN TO SEE THAT THE WAY THE TRIP GENERATION STUDY AT PEAK HOUR WAS ACTUALLY OVER THE 20.

MAKES ME THINK LIKE, WHY DON'T WE DO A TRACK ANALYSIS AND AGAIN IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE TIME, BUT A LEVEL OF COMFORT INCREASES WHEN YOU SEE OK, THE PEAK HOURS AREN'T AS HIGH AS WE THOUGHT.

THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS MEANING ACTUALLY COUNT THE TRIPS WELL IS THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CALCULATION FOR IT. POINT OUT SOMETHING REAL QUICK. SO WE HAVE OUR AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY IS APPROXIMATELY 43 DAYS. TAKE 43 DAYS AND YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 100, 100 AND 20 PATIENTS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY TWO ADMISSIONS A DAY. THAT THAT READMISSIONS A DAY THAT I MEAN THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE PLACE NOT IN ADDITION TO THE EMPLOYEE. AND I'D BE GLAD TO SHOW CENSUS NUMBERS AND STATISTICS TO BACK ALL OF THAT STUFF UP. AND LIKE. I ALSO SAID MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE ADMISSIONS WERE PICKING UP AT THE AIRPORT IN ONE OF OUR VANS AND BRINGING THEM IN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FIRST, RIGHT? SO, UH, DO WE HAVE I MAKE A MOTION. YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THAT. YOU WANNA DO IT NOW? WE CAN DO, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC CONTENT IF THERE'S A MOTION PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. THAT THERE'S FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S NO MOTION. BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO COMMENT ON THE COMMISSION FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. ALL.

TO COME BEFORE. BECAUSE WHATEVER REASONS THEY WANNA HEAR IT. BEFORE THEY FORMULATE THE MOTION. UNDER PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. FOR DISCUSSION. RIGHT, SO IT WOULD BE FOR DISCUSSION. THEN YOU VOTE AFTERWARDS, BUT IT'S NOT THE VOTE. IT'S YEAH. OK? UH, SECOND I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR WHO MADE THE MOTION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. FOR THE DISCUSSION. THE MOTION. TO DISCUSS IT. YOU ALREADY ALREADY DISCUSSING? OK? YEAH. SO WE'LL WAIT. WE'LL WAIT.

LET'S DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THEN WE CAN.

WE'RE GONNA LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. OK, SO ROSS TUCKER. SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ATTENDING ONE OF THESE AND I. I THIS IS GREAT. UM WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, BEING IN THE INDUSTRY FOR SIX YEARS UM MR ACKERMAN DOES HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION, RIGHT? UM AND HE'S WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HIRED STAFF BACK AND FORTH, AND, UM, I THINK WHAT HE'S DOING IS INCREDIBLE. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE IN THIS BUSINESS UNLESS YOU REALLY DO CARE, AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AT HIS LEVEL IN HIS POSITION. BEING AS INVOLVED AS HE IS. HIS PHONE IS RINGING. 24 7. SO YOU KNOW HE CARES. I GENUINELY BELIEVE BELIEVE THAT BUT BEING RAISED BY, UM, THESE TWO. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHILE THEY CARE, UM THEY ALSO ARE SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE BEING ENOUGH. I AM TALKING ABOUT METAPHORICALLY, UH, BUSINESS WISE, RIGHT? SO THE OTHER THING. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? MAKE MIKE BROUGHT UP. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ZONING, RIGHT? THIS IS ABOUT THE LAND USE RIGHT? SO WE'RE GETTING INTO WE'RE GETTING INTO SO MUCH ZONING. WE ARE IN THE ZONE. OK, GOT IT. A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT HE MADE UP. OBVIOUSLY HE'S TRYING TO SELL YOU GUYS ON. YOU KNOW WHY HE

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LUCKILY WE DO NEED HELP. THERE'S A MASSIVE PROBLEM IN THIS IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THE WORLD.

QUITE FRANKLY, UM, THAT YOU TOUCHED ON BY THAT YOU'RE SEEING IT, UH, TWO THINGS THERE ONE HIS FACILITY WOULDN'T BE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT? HIS FACILITY IS GOING TO BE TREATING REALLY HIGH END OUT OF NETWORK CASH PAY LIKE YOU SAID. HIGHER END INDIVIDUALS OF WHICH THEY CAN GO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT ARE TREATING THAT WE DO NOT NEED THAT. WE NEED MORE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO TREAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UNDERSERVED PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FOR TREATMENT, NECESSARILY. UH, LUCKILY WE'RE IN A POSITION BEING IN NETWORK. SO WE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN GET ON, UH, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID PROGRAMS AND WE ARE ALLOWED. WE CAN TREAT THEM RIGHT. SO WE ARE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE WE ARE ONLY AT 82% CAPACITY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TREAT MORE PEOPLE. WE MARKET LOCALLY, AND I'M DIRECTLY IN CHARGE OF THAT. THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY. WE'RE MARKETING SUPPORTS. LUCY HOPE SOUND, STEWART, JUPITER, WEST PALM BEACH AND WE DO A GOOD JOB. WE'RE VERY HAPPY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP MORE PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, BUT UH, AGAIN, HE'S MARKETING. HE'S GETTING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF OUT OF STATE. HE'S GONNA BE BRINGING PEOPLE IN. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE NEED THAT. YOU GUYS. LUCKILY YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISION. THE GOOD THING IS, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE OTHER THAT IS ALL OK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? I THINK YOU HAVE TO THROW OUT A CARTER. I JUST HAD A REALLY QUICK RESPONSE TO THE STAFFING. UM WE DO HAVE A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS IN JUPITER, FLORIDA, SO THE COUNT OF STAFF WAS JUST THE ON SITE TREATING PERSONNEL. I I'M ASSUMING I. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. BUT THE STAFF COUNTY PROBABLY QUOTED WAS RELATED TO HIS ENTIRE OPERATION, WHEREAS WE HAVE SEPARATE CORPORATE OFFICES FOR ALL THOSE OTHER POSITIONS.

RIGHT AND THEY'RE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE WITH DETOX WHERE THEY REQUIRE MORE STUFF. ARE YOUR ISN'T IT? 84 DETOX BEDS, 24 DETOX BEDS. SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME THAT I BELIEVE THEIR FACILITY IS 100% DETOX. DETOX IS A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE. WE REQUIRE MORE STAFF PEOPLE. I ALSO DON'T WANT US TO START GIVING. YEAH. HEARING AND OR YEAH, THAT'S FINE. NEGATIVE. OTHER BUSINESSES. I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. YEAH. THE PARKING SPACES AGAIN. WE HAVE 35 INPATIENT BEDS. WE HAVE 57 PARKING SPACES AND WE CONTINUALLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. THE PHYSICIAN OFFICES IN FRONT OF OUR PUD THAT ARE PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THEIR SPACES CONTINUALLY. THAT'S THE FIRST THING SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 87 PARKING SPACES WILL BE ENOUGH. AND THEN THE 45 DAY STAY THE WAY THAT THE LEVELS OF CARE WORK IS IT'S DETOX AND RESIDENTIAL, WHICH AND WHICH THEY TALKED ABOUT HAVING I FORGET HOW MANY BEDS BUT MORE 45 BEDS OF THE OTHER LEVELS, WHICH ARE THE LOWER LEVELS OF CARE, WHICH ARE PARTIAL HOSPITALIZATION, INTENSIVE, OUTPATIENT AND OUTPATIENT ALL OF THOSE LEVELS OF CARE, ACCORDING TO DC, F ARE ALLOWED TO COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASE AND ALLOW TO HAVE VISITORS AS THEY PLEASE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS. IF APPROVED, ENCOURAGED TO HAVE VISITORS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, FAMILY SESSIONS ENCOURAGE TO HAVE VISITORS. UM SO NOT HAVING SEEN PEOPLE NOT COMING AND GOING NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE IS NOT POSSIBLE. IF IT'S NOT A LOCKDOWN FACILITY. IN THE PARKING SPACES AGAIN. IN THE EMPLOYEES. 35 INPATIENT BEDS. WE HAVE 80 EMPLOYEES. THAT'S 100. AND THAT'S 100 AND 40 BEDS WITH 100 AND 10 EMPLOYEES. THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP. I AGREE. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT THING. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING. IT'S A NEEDED THING. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WANNA DO IT IN MARTIN COUNTY TO BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE AND THAT MUCH TRAFFIC TO OUR AREA. I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH AND DEBATE WITH A COMPETITOR,

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SO THERE'S A LOT OF BUSSING BACK AND FORTH. PLUS YOU HAVE PEOPLE UNRELATED LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. ONE OF MY GIRLS WAS ALWAYS TO TRY TO HAVE THAT TOGETHER IN ONE SPOT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK IT'S A BETTER A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO GET THEIR TREATMENT, WALK DOWN THE HALL AND GET THEIR THEIR FOOD AND THEN WALK TO THEIR BEDROOM. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. SO I THINK IT'S OUT OF ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THIS, UM THIS PROCESS THIS DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHAB AND MENTAL HEALTH HAVING ONE PLACE WHERE THEY GET ALL OF THEIR SERVICES, I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT INTENSITY IN DENSITY. HAVING EVERYONE IN ONE PLACE IS ACTUALLY LESS INTENSE, LESS DENSE THAN BUSSING THEM BACK AND FORTH. JIM GREEN. I KNOW VERY WELL. HE ACTUALLY SUED THE CITY OF BOCA RATON FOR VIOLATING THE 88. I, BUT I WASN'T BEHIND ANY OF THOSE LOCO OR FOR STEWART. FOR THAT MATTER, UM YOU GOT ME. UM, THE REALITY IS DESPITE THEIR OPPOSITIONAL COMMENTS TO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I RESPECT COASTAL DETOX. I RESPECT THE WORK THEY DO AND WHETHER I OPEN THIS FACILITY OR NOT, BRAD MADE A POINT. UM, EVERYBODY AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER IS LOOKING TO GET INTO THIS INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE'S HIGH PROFIT MARGINS.

YOU'VE GOT PRIVATE EQUITY GROUPS YOU'VE GOT, UM, HEDGE FUNDS. YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT ALL SAY LOOK AT IS BOTTOM LINES AND THEY'RE COMING IN HERE. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT PATIENTS. THEY THROW THEM OUT. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THE BOTTOM LINE. I DON'T CARE IF THEIR PATIENTS DIE, SO WHETHER IT'S THIS FACILITY OR ANOTHER ONE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACQUIRE AS MANY PROPERTIES AS THEY CAN, AND THEY'RE GONNA BUY HOUSES LIKE BRAD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LINE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE GOING TO GET PHP IN IOP HOUSING, WHICH I DO HAVE A PHP IN IOP PROGRAM UP IN PORT SAINT LUCIE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD TRANSITION TO AFTER THEY COMPLETE OUR INPATIENT PROGRAM HERE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA KEEP DOING IT AND THEY'RE BAD ACTORS.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'D RATHER THERE BE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE COASTAL AND MYSELF THAT SUPPLY ENOUGH WHERE THE DEMAND CAN BE MET. UM, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA GET FOREIGNERS FROM OUT OF TOWN COMING IN THAT ARE OPENING THESE FACILITIES WITH THE WRONG INTENTIONS. SO WHILE YOU'RE STILL THERE, UM, CAN I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE COMPARISON WITH THE STAFF AND BUT IT SOUNDS JARRING TO ME. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? UM YOUR FUNCTIONALITY THAT WOULD UM, ALLOWED THIS LESS. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR CASE LOADS, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PATIENTS WE ASSIGNED TO ONE THERAPIST IS EIGHT RIGHT. SO NO THERAPIST HAS MORE THAN EIGHT PATIENTS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO WE HAVE 14 THERAPISTS THERE. RIGHT IF YOU DO THE MATH EIGHT TIMES, 14. NOW THESE AREN'T ALL THE CLINICAL PEOPLE BUT EIGHT TIMES 14, I BELIEVE IS 100 AND 12. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE PLAN ON STARTING OFF WITH. THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO CASE MANAGERS. YOU'VE GOT THREE CLINICAL LEADS. SO YOU REALLY GOT 17 SO 17. TIMES EIGHT IS, UM TIRED. SOMEONE COULD DO THE MATH, BUT 17 TIMES EIGHT. WHAT IS THAT? 1 1517 TIMES EIGHT. SO YOU SO YOU'VE GOT THERAPIST FOR 100 AND 15 PATIENTS? PLUS YOU GOT A CLINICAL DOOR AT 136? PLUS, YOU GOT A CLINICAL DIRECTOR, A DIRECTOR OF CLIENT SERVICES, SO A RATIOS ARE COVERED THERE AS FAR AS BHTS. THOSE ARE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TECHNICIANS, WHICH ARE THERE TO CHECK ON THEIR WELL BEING, UH, MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF BED GETTING TO GROUP YOU KNOW, JUST HELPING FACILITATE. WE'VE GOT 34 OF THOSE. WE'RE NOT TRAVELING OFF SITE. WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM TO OUTSIDE THE 12 STEP MEETINGS. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED HOSPITALS AND INSTITUTION ALCOHOLIC.

ANONYMOUS NARCOTIC SYNONYMOUS BRINGING MEETINGS IN SO WE DON'T NEED THE AMOUNT OF STAFF. UM AND I I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK ON THE ORGANIZATION. THEY'RE OPERATION AND HOW THEY RUN. I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO ANALYZE IT, BUT I COULD JUST BREAK DOWN OUR NUMBERS FOR YOU. WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF 23

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THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S JACO REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR NATIONAL ACCREDITATION THAT WE HAVE TO MEET AND ADHERE TO. OH, AND THIS ISN'T AN END ALL BE ALL THIS IS JUST AN INITIAL BUDGET.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY, SO I KNOW THAT IT'S APPROVED. YOU KNOW THE THIS WHILE WE HAVE BRIEF REBUTTAL TO A LITTLE FAST, ALL RIGHT, SO TO BE HERE, SO I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'M GONNA MOVE US ALONG. I THINK , UM, WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THREE CAVEATS. STIPULATION BUT ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS CAN OK, SO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AND YOU WANT TO HAVE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK UP, SO LET ME TELL WHAT THE LET ME TELL YOU. WHAT THE CAVEATS ARE. UM, BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION UM, ONE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER THAT YOU SHOULD DETERMINE BEFORE YOU COULD GO BEFORE THE, UH, THE COMMISSION AND THE OVERALL MEMBER YEAH, WELL, THAT'S NOT TO EXCEED. SO REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY YOU OPEN IT, WE WILL NOT HAVE MORE THAN THIS NUMBER OF PATIENTS. WHETHER IT'S A MIX OF THE REHAB DETOX. AND MENTAL HEALTH. UM, THE SECOND ONE IS NO MORE THAN 12 MENTAL HEALTH. UH, I GUESS IT'S A BEDS OR WHAT IS IT? AND THEN THE THIRD IS, UH, NEVER TO BE A BAKER ACT. I THINK YOU ALSO AGREED TO THAT, UH, FACILITY. AND WHAT WAS SURE NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER. UM THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH THAT, UM, PRIOR TO, UH, BRINGING IT TO THE COMMISSION. I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT A 1 12 1 16 WHATEVER. BUT A NUMBER WHERE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SPACE. YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA ADD ANOTHER 100 PEOPLE. IN THERE. SO DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YOU MADE A MOTION, RIGHT? I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? LIKE FOR LIKE A SECOND. IF THERE'S NO SECOND WHAT'S THAT IT DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND IF THERE'S NO SECOND OK? ALL RIGHT.

CAN I SECOND AN ALTERNATIVE. TOGETHER AND SECOND DID YOU PASS THE GAVEL TO MR ST ALL IN YEP.

GOT IT THAT WAY. YEAH, OK, SO, UM, STAFF WE CALL THE VOTE, PLEASE. WITH THE MOTION. NOW IT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. AND I DON'T KNOW. I THINK REGULATING THE LIMITATION ON THIS IS GOING TO BE HARD. I THINK THAT THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE. I THINK THAT WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE. IF THIS WAS HELPING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, I TOTALLY AGREE. I VOLUNTEER AT LA HAYA. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND DRUG ADDICTIONS AND ALCOHOL. AND MAYBE WE MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS TO INCREASE TRAFFIC AND INCREASE BEDS FOR OUR MARTIN COUNTY PEOPLE, BUT TO DO IT FOR PEOPLE, NOT THAT THEY DON'T DESERVE TREATMENT. BUT PERHAPS THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT HERE IN OUR COUNTY. I GUESS I LOOK AT THE, UH FACILITY IS BUILT AND IT'S UNOCCUPIED, AND IT'S VACANT. UM SO THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME. I ALSO LOOK AT THE JOBS. UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE THE LOCAL JOBS. FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT IN THAT, UH, I THINK YOU SAID HALF ARE FROM FLORIDA. HALF ARE FROM OUT OF STATE. SO PEOPLE COULD BE LOCAL. IS THERE ANY CHANCE TO LIKE? TARGET AND THEY LIKE LOCAL I'M NOT IN THE, UM BUSINESS OF THAT AT ALL. BUT I KNOW THAT THE, UH FEDERAL DISCRIMINATION LAWS AND EQUAL PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS MR GREEN THAT THEY REFERRED TO USES THAT DISCUSSION. A LOT PREVENTS THEM FROM EXCLUDING. ANYBODY BASED UPON PROTECTED REASONS SO

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ONE MEMBER PETERSON. NO. AND BOARD MEMBER BROMFIELD. YES. JUST 22 VOTES. SHE KEEPS HIM RIGHT PAST THE YOU WANT IT OR NOT. THE AGENDA ITEM IS OVER, SO HE WOULD RETURN THE GAMBLE UNLESS HE HAS SOME KIND OF DESIRE TO KEEP IT. BUT UM, AND THE, UH, THE AS FAR AS THE VOTE IS CONCERNED, THE MATTER WILL FAIL FOR FAILURE TO, UM GET THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES, BUT BECAUSE YOU VOTED ON IT. THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE IT RETURN UNLESS THERE WAS A MOTION TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION. BUT IT'LL JUST GO TO THE COMMISSION WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND IT'LL HAVE A, UH THE NOTATION ON IT THAT IT WAS OUTVOTED. ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, STAFF. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD? I'M NOT AT THIS TIME.

RIGHT?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.