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[ROLL CALL]

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WELCOME, EVERYONE. WE'LL START OUR MEETING. ROLL CALL. MAYOR BRUNER HERE, VICE MAYOR RICH HERE. COMMISSIONER COLLINS HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK. COMMISSIONER MCDONALD HERE. OKAY. WILL EVERYONE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? INVOCATION I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STAND. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY WELL, PRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF STEWART. WELLFIELD AND WATER PLANT EVALUATION. OR AM I JUMPING AHEAD OF MYSELF? I SURE

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

AM OF THE ROLL CALL OR DON'T. YEAH, I DID IT ON THE AGENDA. I MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

SECOND, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I OKAY. HOLD ON.

WHICH ONE IS. EXCUSE ME, MADAM MAYOR, WE DID HAVE AN INVOCATION THIS EVENING. I JUST, I'M NOT SURE. NO, I KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT, THE APPLICATION HERE. YEAH, WE JUST NEED THE PRESENTATION. WAS. I WAS TRYING HERE. I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. OH, YOU ARE SORRY. HE IS HERE.

THANK YOU. SIR, PLEASE COME ON UP. YEAH, WE'LL ALL RISE AGAIN. HE'S GOING TO GIVE THE. THANK YOU, SIR. YES ABSOLUTELY. I'M AARON MEEHAN. I'M THE PASTOR OF HIGHER PURPOSE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND OFFER THIS INVOCATION, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I TOOK A COUPLE BUSINESS CLASSES. AND IN THOSE CLASSES, I LEARNED THE CONCEPT OF THE UPSIDE DOWN PYRAMID. RIGHT. IT'S THE SAME IDEA OF AN ORGANIZATIONAL PYRAMID. YOU'VE GOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP OF THE COMPANY AND THE VERY TOP. AND THOSE WHO THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON THE BOTTOM AND VARIOUS LEVELS OF MANAGERS AND LEADERSHIP IN BETWEEN. AND THE IDEA OF THE UPSIDE DOWN PYRAMID IS THAT THOUGH THE LEADERS OFTEN ON TOP, THEY'RE ACTUALLY MORE ON THE BOTTOM AND THEY'RE HOLDING UP THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION ON THEIR SHOULDERS. AND, AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE WEIGHT OF LEADERSHIP, THE WAY THAT YOU ALL BEAR TODAY IN LEADING THIS GREAT CITY. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT. AND SO IN MY INVOCATION, I'D LIKE TO JUST PRAY FOR GOD'S BLESSING ON YOU AND, TO PRAY FOR PEACE FOR YOU.

PEACE IN THIS MEETING AND THAT THE LORD WOULD BLESS IT IF WE COULD BOW OUR HEADS RIGHT NOW.

LORD JESUS, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO BETTER OUR CITY.

LORD GOD, OUR GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE PRAY THAT YOUR PEACE WOULD BE IN THIS PLACE.

BLESS EVERY PERSON, LORD. HERE HELP US GOD TO CARRY OUT THIS BUSINESS. LORD, WITH LOVE IN OUR HEARTS. BLESS THESE LEADERS THAT GOD YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING AND WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR GOODNESS IN OUR LIVES. IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU SIR.

PRESENTATION. RIGHT? YES, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY THING THAT SAID THAT WE HAD A ANYWAY. CITY OF

[1. CITY OF STUART WELLFIELD AND WATER PLANT EVALUATION]

STUART, WELLFIELD AND WATER PLAN EVALUATION. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, I'M GOING TO SIT OVER THE CONTROL OVER THERE AND KIND OF GUIDE THE PRESENTATION OR START IT OFF. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IT'S SO GOOD TO BE WITH EVERYONE HERE THIS AFTERNOON, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS PETER KUNIN, DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY OF STUART. AND, WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON A PRESENTATION, THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN BY OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, KIMLEY-HORN. IT'S, THE EVALUATION OF OUR EXISTING, WATER WELL FIELDS AND ALSO, A EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT IS IN ESSENCE, THE FUTURE OF THE CITY'S WATER TREATMENT. SO, WHAT WILL BE EXPLAINED TO ALL OF YOU IS, FIRST, THE CONDITION OF OUR EXISTING WELLS, WHICH IS, WITH OUR EXISTING SURFICIAL AQUIFER,

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WATER SUPPLY AND, AS AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY RECENTLY OPENED UP A NEW REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT FACILITY, WHICH WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING BACK ON MAY THE 10TH, VERY EXCITING, EXCITING, GRAND OPENING. AND, CERTAINLY IT IS THE FUTURE OF WATER PRODUCTION FOR THE CITY OF STUART, THAT REVERSE OSMOSIS FACILITY, AS WILL BE EXPLAINED IN IN A FEW MOMENTS, DRAWS WATER FROM A DEEPER WATER SOURCE. THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER. AND SO, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, THERE'S A LOT TO COVER WITH THE PRESENTATION. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, FROM OUR CONSULTANT.

KIMLEY-HORN MISS ANDREA CARPENTER AND MR. MARK MILLER. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVING, GIVING YOU THE RUNDOWN OF THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN CERTAINLY WE'RE HERE TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS THAT THAT YOU MAY HAVE AFTERWARDS, SO WITH THAT, ANDREA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GET STARTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, CITY COMMISSIONERS, WE DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, PRESENTING THE WELL FIELD EVALUATION AND THE RESULTS OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE TREATMENT PLAN EVALUATION, ALSO WITH US TODAY IS JOHN FRIEDRICH, HE'S WITH JLA GEOSCIENCES. HE ALSO ASSISTED IN THE WELL FIELD CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS A PORTION OF THIS EVALUATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY. THANK YOU. SO AS, PETER MENTIONED, THE AGE OF THE CITY OF STUART WELLS FIELD HAS, EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE. IT TREATED THE CITY OF STUART VERY WELL. IT DID LAST FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS, BUT TYPICAL USEFUL LIFE FOR OFFICIAL. WELL FIELD. IT'S ABOUT 30 YEARS. THE MATERIAL OF THE OF THE WELL IS, IT'S STEEL, WHICH DOESN'T LAST AS LONG. IT A PVC WELL CASING DOES LAST A BIT LONGER. LONGER? YOU CAN GET A LONGER LIFE OUT OF THAT. BUT, MOST OF THE PRETTY MUCH 95% OF THESE WELLS ARE MADE OF STEEL CASING. SO, THERE HAS BEEN A CONDITION ASSESSMENT FOR THE FOR THE WELLS. WE DID DOWNHOLE VIDEOS TO DETERMINE THE CONDITION OF EACH. WELL, AS WELL AS WE DID FIND SCALING, WE FOUND SUBSTANTIAL CAPACITY DEGRADATION ON THE WELLS, HOLES IN THE CASINGS, DEFINITELY. WELL CASING FAILURES. ALSO, THERE'S A SCREEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WELL THAT'S BEEN DEGRADED OR JUST NO LONGER.

NO LONGER EXISTENT. AND THEREFORE, WITH THAT NOT BEING IN PLACE, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SAND PRODUCTION FOR SOME OF THESE WELLS THAT DID, DOES GET INTO THE WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM. AND THIS THAT SAND IS ACTUALLY PRODUCING, CREATING IMPACTS TO THE FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT IS USED TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THE SAND FROM THE WATER SUPPLY. SO THIS DOES INCREASE MAINTENANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR FILTRATION SYSTEM. SO THESE WELLS ARE LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS, BEYOND ITS USEFUL TYPICAL. WELL, LIFE THERE. OTHER CHALLENGES THAT THE CITY IS WELL AWARE OF IS THE EMERGING CONTAMINANTS ISSUE, THE LATEST BEING PFAS, BUT ALSO THERE'S A BOX WHICH IS ANOTHER CONTAMINANT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DEALING, DEALING WITH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THESE EMERGING CONTAMINANTS, HAVE REQUIRED ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESSES, SUCH AS THE ION EXCHANGE SYSTEM AND ALSO VOC TOWERS. SO IT'S, LED TO A MORE COMPLICATED SYSTEM HAVING TO HAVE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESSES TO TREAT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EMERGING CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE PLAGUING THE CITY'S SURFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY. CURRENTLY THESE EMERGING CONTAMINANTS HAVE INCREASED OPERATING COSTS AND CAPITAL COSTS BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION OF THESE, THESE TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR REMOVAL OF THE CONTAMINATION. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? VOCS ARE VOLATILE, ORGANIC, AND THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING, PROBABLY ABOUT 50, 40, 50 YEARS NOW, SINCE 1989, I BELIEVE, WAS WHEN THAT CONTAMINANT, HAD EMERGED AS, CONTAMINATING THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. SO OTHER AREAS, THAT'S JUST THE RELIABILITY AND THE DEGRADATION OF THE SURFICIAL AQUIFER IS JUST, IT'S IMPEDING ON THE ON THE DIFFERENT TREATMENT PROCESSES AND THE WATER QUALITY THAT IS BEING, PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF STUART FOR DRINKING WATER. ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE, WE LOVE THIS PHOTO AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER. SO THE LOWER, BUCKET, THAT'S YOUR THAT'S WHERE IT'S

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JUST YOUR SURFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY IS TREATED NORMALLY WITHOUT ION EXCHANGE. SO THERE IS A BIT OF THAT'S THE ORGANIC. SO THE ORGANICS IN THE WATER SUPPLY DOES PRODUCE A CERTAIN COLOR TO YOUR WATER. IT'S NOT HARMFUL. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ESTHETICALLY, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. SO THE ION EXCHANGE SYSTEM, YOU COULD TELL THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ION EXCHANGE, THE ION EXCHANGE SYSTEM. SO WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REVERSE OSMOSIS THAT TREATMENT OR THAT TREATMENT PROCESS BLENDING THAT WITH THE LIME SOFTENED WATER THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN USING TO TREAT THE SURFICIAL AQUIFER, BUT WOULD ALSO PRODUCE A REDUCED, I SHOULD SAY, THE AMOUNT OF COLOR IN AN ORGANICS IN THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY. JUST A BACKGROUND ON THE TWO DIFFERENT, POTENTIAL WATER SUPPLY SOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF STUART. THE FIRST ONE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THIS OFFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY, THE DEPTH OF THIS. WELL IS LESS THAN 200FT. THE CITY'S DEPTH, WELL, DEPTH BELOW LAND SURFACE IS ABOUT 135 125FT, OVER TIME, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE WELLS? YES. YOU REHABILITATE IT OVER TIME, BUT EVENTUALLY, LIKE, I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU REDUCED ITS USE, YOU REDUCE ITS USEFUL LIFE WITHIN 30 YEARS. SO OVER TIME, THE PRODUCTION OF THE WELLS ARE LIMITED, CAPACITY IS LIMITED OR REDUCED, AND THEN ALSO JUST DROUGHT IMPACTS ON A SURFICIAL AQUIFER IS MORE PRONOUNCED THAN YOU THAN A FLORIDAN AQUIFER. WATER SUPPLY, ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONTAMINANTS, I SHOULD SAY IMPURITIES ARE THE ORGANICS THAT WE DISCUSSED AS WELL AS ION, THAT YOU FIND A HIGHER LEVEL OF ION IN A SPECIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY VERSUS THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY. AND, OF COURSE, THE MAN MADE CONTAMINANTS THAT PLAGUE THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. SO, THE OTHER, WATER SUPPLY SOURCE IS THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER. THAT'S BEING USED, CURRENTLY AT THE CITY'S, TREATMENT PLANT, THE DEPTH OF THAT WELL, IS ABOUT ABOUT 1000FT PLUS OR MINUS, BELOW LAND SURFACE. IT'S A CONFINED AQUIFER, WHICH MEANS, IT PROTECTS IT'S PROTECTS THE WATER SUPPLY FROM THOSE MANMADE CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. THE SURFICIAL GROUNDWATER SUPPLY, IT DOES HAVE A LEVEL. AN ELEVATED LEVEL OF SULFUR OR SULFIDE, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SMELLY, EGG SMELL, THAT ROTTEN EGG SMELL. BUT THAT DOES GET REMOVED WITH A TREATMENT. IT'S CALLED A DEGASIFICATION. SO THAT REMOVES THAT HYDROGEN SULFIDE AND THAT EGG SMELL FROM YOUR WATER SUPPLY, THE ADVANTAGES ARE THE ABUNDANCE OF THE SUPPLY, IT'S THE ABUNDANCE IS COMPARED TO A SURFICIAL AQUIFER. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT COMPARABLE, RESILIENCY TO DROUGHTS. THERE'S NO DROUGHT IMPACT TO FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY SOURCE, AND I, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED FROM CONTAMINANTS I MENTIONED. AND IT'S AN EXTREMELY RELIABLE SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER. SO PETER, DID MENTION, I'M SURE WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RIBBON CUTTING ON MAY 10TH, THE RIBBON CUTTING WAS FOR THE 1.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY REVERSE OSMOSIS TREATMENT PLANT. THERE IS ROOM. THE DESIGN DOES ALLOW ROOM FOR AN EXPANSION TO A 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY, REVERSE OSMOSIS TREATMENT PLANT. IT'S REALLY JUST ADDING AN ADDITIONAL MEMBRANE HERE, OUR SKID, WE CALL IT A SKID, AND ALSO A DEGASIFICATION TOWER. AN ADDITIONAL DEGASIFICATION TOWER. SO PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE 1.5 MILLION GALLON IS ALLOWED FOR FUTURE EXPANSION AND BUILD OUT TO A 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY TREATMENT PLANT, THE WATER SOURCE. SO ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESS HAS HAS DEFINITELY REDUCED THE STRESS IN THE OFFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY. BUT GOING TO THAT ADDITIONAL ONE AND A HALF, SO 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY EXPANSION COULD COULD BENEFIT, AND RELIEVE MORE STRESS ON THE OFFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY. AWESOME, AWESOM, ALSO JUST JUST A POINT, THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER, IS EASILY PERMITTED WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO A OFFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY. WELL, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT YOU HAVE LESS, A LOT LESS LEGAL USERS. AND, GREATER IMPACTS, IMPACTS FROM OTHER USERS AS WELL AS WE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. SORRY THE SURFICIAL AQUIFER IN MARTIN COUNTY IS, CONSIDERED AN OFFER OF LIMITED AVAILABILITY JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHALLOW DEPTH AND THE GENERAL LOW YIELD FROM IT. AND SO, GETTING PERMANENT FIRST OFFICIAL OFFER WATER SUPPLIES

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RELATIVELY DIFFICULT FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHEREAS THE FLORIDAN IS THE AN ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY ACCORDING TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THEY REALLY SUPPORT PROMOTE THE USE OF THAT, SO THOSE TWO COMPONENTS PLUS THE PERMITTING REGULATIONS WITH EXISTING LEGAL USERS AND WETLANDS AND WETLANDS IMPACTS WITH YOUR SURFICIAL AQUIFER, MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO, WE DID COMPLETE A CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF THE EXISTING SURFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY WELLFIELD, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT 16 OF THE 23 WELLS REQUIRE, REPLACEMENT, THE REASONS FOR THESE IS BECAUSE OF, AS I MENTIONED, INITIALLY, HOLES IN THE CASINGS, THE AGE OF THE STEEL CASING, LOW PRODUCTION, LOW CAPACITY YIELD, SO HIGH SAND PRODUCTION AND SOME OF THE WELLS. IT'S YOU KNOW, BOTTOM LINE, IT'S EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE. SO REPLACEMENT IS REQUIRED FOR 16 OF THOSE WELLS. THE REMAINING SEVEN WE DID IDENTIFY AS ONLY REQUIRING REHABILITATION. BUT MOST OF THOSE WELLS ARE ALSO STEEL CASED. AND, LONG TERM THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING THEY CAN BE REHABILITATED WHILE THE OTHER WELLS ARE BEING, CONSTRUCTED AND DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED AND REPLACED, THEN WE THAT'S THE TABLE IS JUST A SUMMARY, OF THE WELLS AND THE RESULTS OF AGING. JUST AS AS I MENTIONED, AGING HOLES IN THE CASING, ETC. ITEMS ARE REASONS FOR REPLACEMENT VERSUS REHABILITATION AND WHY WE DETERMINE WHICH ONE WHICH WELLS SHOULD NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. ADDITIONAL. ADDITIONALLY, WE DID EVALUATE THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF THE WELL FIELD AND THE PERMITTED CAPACITY OF THE WELL FIELD, DAY ONE, THE 23 WELLS OR SO WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE 7.7 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WHEN THE WHEN THE WELL WAS NEW, TODAY IT'S BEEN REDUCED BY ABOUT 30 TO 50. AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST DUE TO THE CONDITION OF THE OF THE SURFICIAL WELLS, I HAVE HERE 5.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF ACTUAL FLOW. AND THAT'S REALLY ON A GOOD DAY. IF THERE'S A DROUGHT OR JUST, A WELL IS JUST IS NOT PRODUCING. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED, TO ABOUT 3 OR 3.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO TO PUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF MAX DAY OR THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT, THE DESIGN CAPACITY IS 6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO THAT 33. 5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WATER SUPPLY DOES NOT IT DOES NOT COMPLETE THE DOES NOT MEET THAT 6 MILLION GALLON PER DAY MAX DAY REQUIREMENT. SUMMARY OF THE COSTS FOR REPLACEMENT RANGES FROM ABOUT $1.5 MILLION TO $1.8 MILLION. AND THAT'S JUST THE RANGE IS JUST REFLECTS THE COMPLICATION OR THE, I SHOULD SAY WHETHER THE COMPLEXITY OF THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WELL, AND IF IT'S A LARGER WELL OR A SMALLER WELL, LARGER DIAMETER, I SHOULD SAY, VERSUS A SMALLER DIAMETER. WELL, BUT OVERALL COST IS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TO, 1.8 FOR REPLACEMENT OF A WELL OF A SURFICIAL. SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, NOT NECESSARILY AS PART OF THIS EVALUATION, BUT, JUST AS IN OUR TENURE HERE WITH THE CITY, AND, YOU KNOW, EVALUATING THEIR. WELL FIELD, WE STANDARDIZE AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION FOR STANDARDIZING THE, WELL, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S JUST USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT PROMOTE LONG LONGEVITY, LONGEVITY. I CAN EVEN SAY THAT WORD LONGEVITY, AND THAT'S USING MATERIALS LIKE PVC VERSUS THE STEEL AND, STAINLESS STEEL VERSUS A STEEL WELLHEAD. SO THESE THESE MATERIALS JUST INCREASE THE LONGEVITY, LONGEVITY OF THE, OF THE WELL, WE DO HAVE WE DID AS A CITY, I SHOULD SAY, WE HELP THEM. BUT THE CITY DID REPLACE ONE OF THE WELLS. SO IT IS WITH THIS STANDARDIZATION. SO WE DO HAVE A PROTOTYPE ALREADY IN PLACE FOR ALL FUTURE WELLS FOR FUTURE. WELL REPLACEMENT, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AS THE PROXIMITY OF THE WELLS TO SANITARY HAZARD, THERE ARE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE FOR NEW WELLS, THE EXISTING WELLS, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE WELLS,

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WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FORCE MEANS, STORMWATER SYSTEMS, ETC. AND SO SOME OF THESE WELLS ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE SETBACKS. AND IF WE WERE TO PUT A NEW WELL IN ITS CURRENT PLACE, IT WOULD BE A NON COMPLIANCE CONCERN. WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING PERMITTING THAT NEW. WELL SO WE DID WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AND WE HAVE LOOKED YOU KNOW HIGH LEVEL LOOKED AT SITING THE SURFICIAL WELLS. AND THAT ALSO PLAYED A PLAYED A ROLE IN DECIDING WHETHER TO REPLACE THE WELL OR JUST ABANDON IT AND GO TO FLORIDA AND AQUIFER SUPPLY AND EXPANDING THAT 1.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY TREATMENT PROCESS TO 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. WE YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES. WE'VE ALSO EVALUATED, EVALUATED EMERGING CONTAMINANTS. AND THE IMPACTS ON THE WELLS. THERE WILL BE SOME WELLS, A PORTION OF THE WELLS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE THESE WELLS DO HAVE A CONTAMINANT, AN EMERGING CONTAMINANT SOURCE WITHIN THE GROUNDWATER THAT IT IS PULLING FROM. SO WE STILL THE CITY STILL IS OBLIGATED TO TREAT THAT WATER FOR PFAS REMOVAL OR THE VOCS. SO THOSE WELLS WILL STILL HAVE TO REMAIN AND BE REPLACED IRREGARDLESS OF EXPANSION TO THE 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY ORAL TREATMENT. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE, THE RATIO OF WHETHER A, SAY, RATIO RATIO OF SURFICIAL WATER SUPPLY VERSUS FLORIDA WATER SUPPLY, WHETHER IT'S 75, SURFICIAL AND 25% FLORIDAN WATER SUPPLY SOURCE, OR IT'S 5050. WHAT DOES THAT BLEND LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE RESULTING WATER QUALITY FROM THAT? SO WE DID CONSIDER THOSE ASPECTS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TREATMENT PROCESS BLENDING BECAUSE WE STILL, AS I MENTIONE, THAT WE STILL HAVE TO REPLACE THE SURFICIAL WELLS THAT DO HAVE A CONTAMINANT SOURCE. SO WE STILL WE WILL HAVE TO BLEND THAT SURFICIAL WATER WITH THE FLORIDA WATER, WATER SUPPLY SOURCE. SO WE DID LOOK AT DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS AND RATIOS OF THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE AND THE CAPACITY FROM THE FLORIDA AND VERSUS THE SURFICIAL, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY CAPITAL COSTS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. OPERATING COSTS LONG TERM. WE LOOKED AT JUST A TEN YEAR, TEN YEAR HORIZON, SO WE CONSIDER CAPITAL COSTS FOR DIFFERENT SOURCES, DIFFERENT FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RATIO OF FLORIDA VERSUS OFFICIAL WHAT THAT TREATMENT, ADDITIONAL TREATMENT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT COST IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

YEAH. AND THEN OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WE DID, SO THERE IS A IF YOU GO MORE TO A FLORIDA AND WATER SUPPLY, THERE IS A REDUCTION OF DISINFECTION BYPRODUCTS. IT'S DBP'S IT'S A THERE'S A MAXIMUM LEVEL OF THAT. THERE'S A MAXIMUM LEVEL THAT YOU DO HAVE TO ABIDE, YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER. THEY CALL A MAXIMUM CONTAMINATION LIMIT, THAT YOU DO HAVE TO BE UNDER THAT. AND IF YOU THAT DBP THE DBP'S ARE POTENTIALLY ELEVATED FROM A OFFICIAL AQUIFER SUPPLY, VERSUS USING THAT FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY, WE TALK ABOUT IT DOES REDUCE THE EMERGING CONTAMINANTS CONCERN. IF YOU DO GO TO THAT FLOOR AND SUPPLY AND THEN BLENDING THE SURFICIAL WITH THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER ALSO DOES HAVE AN IMPACT AS A RESULT OF A LEAD AND COPPER EROSION, WE SELECTED, WE DID A COST COMPARISON FOR SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT RATIOS. THAT'S WHERE THE RATIO COMES IN OF FLORIDAN SUPPLY VERSUS THE OFFICIAL SUPPLY, OPTION ONE, THAT JUST ASSUMES THAT'S HOW IT IS TODAY. IT ASSUMES THAT YOU YOU REPLACE AND REHAB YOUR ENTIRE. WELL FIELD AND IN THE CAPITAL COSTS. AND THE OPERATING COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WITH THE 11. 5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY ORAL TREATMENT, IT'S STILL THERE, BUT IT'S SUPPLEMENTAL, MEANING THAT TOTAL CAPACITY YOU HAVE IS A 6 MILLION GALLON PER DAY LIME TREATED PLANT. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THAT 1.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY ORAL TREATMENT.

BUT YOU'RE SUPPLEMENTING THAT THAT WATER SUPPLY, THE ORAL TREATED WATER WITH THE SIX. SO YOU REALLY ONLY USING ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF. BUT IT OFFERS OF THE LIME TREATED WATER. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE USING YOUR ORAL TREATMENT. BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS IT DOES ALLOW FLEXIBILITY WITH THE TO USE UTILIZING THE TWO DIFFERENT WATER SOURCES. SO, OPTION ONE, A THAT REDUCES THE REQUIREMENT, SO THE RATIO IS 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF YOU'RE TREATING YOUR SURFICIAL

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TO ONE AND A HALF OF TREATING THE FLORIDAN OFFER SUPPLY. SO, IT'S YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS OPTION ONE. HOWEVER, YOU CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WELLS THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE, AND YOU CAN JUST ABANDON THEM, WHICH IT MAKES THAT THIS OPTION A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO OPTION ONE. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU, OPTION TWO IS THE 50 OVER 50 BLEND. SO YOU HAVE YOUR 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF YOUR TREATING YOUR SURFICIAL AQUIFER, AND YOU HAVE YOUR THREE OF TREATING THE, THE FLORIDAN OCTOBER. SO, THIS ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL WELLS TO BE ABANDONED. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE WELLS, AND IT'S BEING SUPPLEMENTED FROM YOUR WITH YOUR FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY. WELL, WHICH, AGAIN, IS MORE RELIABLE AND MORE RESILIENT THAN YOUR SURFICIAL, THE CAPITAL COSTS ARE, THEY ARE ELEVATED, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TEN YEAR HORIZON, IT STARTS TO YOU START TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK AFTER ABOUT TEN YEARS, WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO OPTION.

OPTION ONE, A SO AFTER THAT IT WILL AFTER BEYOND THE TEN YEARS, IT'LL PAY FOR ITSELF.

ESSENTIALLY OPTION THREE IS IF YOU'RE IF THE CITY WAS TO EXPAND TO FOUR, 4.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY, OUR ROAD TREATMENT AND MAINTAIN THE 1.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THAT WOULD JUST COVER THE TREATMENT OF THE OF YOUR SURFICIAL WELLS, THAT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOUR SURFICIAL WELLS THAT NEED TO REMAIN IN PLACE. SO YOU. SO THE CITY CAN TREAT THAT WATER TO REMOVE THE PFAS, AND YOU KNOW, AND REMOVE THE VOCS FROM THE SURFICIAL WATER SUPPLY. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE WELLS SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO TREAT THE CONTAMINANT IN THE IN THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY, THE RESULTING COSTS ON THAT, THOUGH, IS ELEVATED. THE CITY'S TREATMENT PLANT DOES NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A 4.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY REVERSE OSMOSIS, PLANT, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, PIPE REPLACEMENT, ETC. SO THAT'S WHY IT ELEVATES THAT COST, THAT CAPITAL COST FOR THE OPTION FOR IF WE WERE TO EXPAND THE 4.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY TREATMENT, REVERSE OSMOSIS TREATMENT PLANT. YEAH SO IN THERE, THIS ALSO OPTION FOR THREE. I'M SORRY. ALSO REQUIRES THE CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A DEEP INJECTION. WELL, AN ADDITIONAL ONE CURRENTLY THE BYPRODUCT FROM THE REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT DOES GO TO THE DEEP INJECTION. WELL, W2 AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY REQUIRED TO REMOVE TO DISPOSE OF THE BYPRODUCT OR A 4.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT IT WOULD NEED, IT'S A DEDICATED DEEP INJECTION. WELL TO HANDLE THAT CAPACITY. THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE, THE CAPACITY FOR DISPOSAL OF THAT FIVE POINT, ONE OTHER THING. JUST TO NOTE IS THAT, WE STILL WOULD LIKE THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL DEEP INJECTION WELL, DEDICATED TO THE RO TREATMENT PLANT, IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TO OR THE CITY WAS TO PROCEED WITH OPTION TWO. OPTION TWO IS A RECOMMENDATION. BY THE WAY, I WILL GET INTO WHY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER NOT TODAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IMPLEMENTING, JUST OR APPROVING THE DESIGN OF A DEEP INJECTION. WELL, BECAUSE IT DOES ALLOW FOR REDUNDANCY AND RELIABILITY, TO BE ABLE TO, DISPOSE OF THE, OF THE BYPRODUCT THAT COMES FROM THE REVERSE OSMOSIS TREATMENT, SHOULD THE WELL BE DOWN THE DEEP INJECTION, WELL BE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE OR, OR TESTING OR WHATEVER AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, YOU HAVE A BACKUP DEEP INJECTION. WELL, THAT YOU CAN USE TO DISPOSE OF THE OF THE BYPRODUCT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'LL HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THAT, IF THE OTHER DEEP INJECTION WALL IS DOWN OR IT'S DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU WON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT THAT BYPRODUCT FROM THE FOUR AND A HALF OR EVEN THE 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY. TREATMENT, REVERSE OSMOSIS TREATMENT PROCESS OR OPTION. SO NEXT. SO LIKE I SAID, WE RECOMMEND, EXPANDING TO THREE AND A HALF OR. EXCUSE ME, 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF REVERSE OSMOSIS, LIKE WE SAID, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE NOT MUCH ADDITIONAL, CONSTRUCTION OR DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION IS NEEDED, IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL TRAIN OR REVERSE OSMOSIS TRAIN. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL GASIFIER. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL WELLS, THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY WELLS. HOWEVER, YOU'LL BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF

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SURFICIAL WELLS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND LONG TERM, BECAUSE OF THE RELIABILITY AND THE RESILIENCY OF THE FLORIDA WATER SUPPLY, IT ACTUALLY, YOU GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU CAN ALWAYS RELY ON THAT WATER SUPPLY, THAT FLOOR AND WATER SUPPLY IS ALWAYS THERE. IT'S NEVER GOING TO RUN OUT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE IMPACTS OF EMERGING CONTAMINANTS OR ANY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH TODAY WITH THE SURFICIAL WATER SUPPLY, IT DOES MEET THE CITY'S LONG TERM WATER SUPPLY GOALS. IT MAINTAINS, IT DOES ADDRESS THE EMERGING CONTAMINANT ISSUE. IT UTILIZES A DROUGHT RESISTANCE. THERE'S NO IMPACT ON DROUGHT FOR FLORIDA, WATER SUPPLY, IT IS FLEXIBILITY WITH ALTERNATE. IT DOES HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLIES, SO WE DO RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE 50 OVER 50 SPLIT, THE EXPANSION TO THE 3 MILLION GALLON PER DAY RO TREATMENT, WE HAVE CITED THE FLORIDAN WELLS, THE FLORIDA WELL, LOCATIONS PROPOSED FOR, WELL, LOCATIONS ARE IN ORANGE, THE EXISTING WATER WELL THAT WE HAVE THAT'S TREATING THE ORE THAT IS BEING USED AS A WATER SUPPLY FOR THE 1.5 MILLION GALLON PER DAY IS ON THE CITY OF STUART SITE, WE ALSO DID CITE THE DEEP INJECTION.

WELL, PROPOSED DEEP INJECTION. WELL, I W3 AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S ACTUALLY AT THE FIELD ACROSS FROM. BUT IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE TREATMENT PLANT TO WHERE IT'S A SHORTER RUN. AND LIKE I SAID, IF BY ADDING THAT WILL BE MORE RELIABLE, MORE ROBUST AND YOU'RE ADDING REDUNDANCY TO YOUR EXISTING DEEP INJECTION, WELL, AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO IN CONCLUSION, WE REQUEST AUTHORIZATION. WE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, REQUEST AUTHORIZATION FOR, CONSTRUCTION AND EXCUSE ME, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THE SURFICIAL WELL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS, ALSO, THE REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT EXPANSION AND THE ADDITION AND OR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL FLORIDA AND AQUIFER WELLS AND THEN LONG TERM, JUST CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL DEEP INJECTION. WELL, JUST FOR RELIABILITY AND BACKUP FOR THE EXISTING DEEP INJECTION.

WELL, AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WAIT RIGHT THERE IN CASE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. SURE YES. SO WE'RE WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. ANY COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT, IT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, REALLY BE SPENDING SOME TIME EVALUATING. BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU HAVE SOME VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOME COMPLICATED STUFF. SO BUT GREAT PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. DID IT VERY WELL. THANK YOU. AND OBVIOUSLY MR. KEENAN AND I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD JUST TO GIVE THE BOARD A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WHAT REALLY IS HAPPENING IS THE, THE PLAN IS OPEN, BUT THE OPERATIONAL COSTS REALLY, I MARK PROBABLY KNOWS MORE THAN I DO ABOUT IT, BUT, OUR UNDETERMINED AT THIS TIME AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I GUESS THAT BALANCE OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER OF, GALLONS FROM THIS OFFICIAL VERSUS THE NOT RIGHT NUMBER OF GALLONS FROM THE FLORIDAN TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE COST OF THE MEDIA RELATED TO THE SURFICIAL IS AT THE RIGHT LEVEL, SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO REMOVE THE PFOS AND PFOA. AND AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE DON'T GO OVER ON THE ROW TO THE EXTENT THAT THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF IT EXCEED, BUDGETARY COSTS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE PRESENTATION ABOUT CAUSING THE ENTIRE, WELL FIELD TO COLLAPSE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, COULD COULD HURT. SO IT IS A COMPLICATED MATTER, AND WE WILL KEEP BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I'LL BE CONSULTING WITH PETER AND PROBABLY COME BACK TO YOU AT SOME POINT WITH AN AGENDA ITEM AS IT RELATES TO THE, PROGRESS FOR THE FUTURE AND THE DESIGN OF THAT MINIMUM. PROBABLY REVIEWING THE DESIGN OF, THOSE EXPANSION ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, WHETHER THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT IT OR NOT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, FOR ANOTHER DAY. IT'S MORE ABOUT JUST PLANNING FOR IT, ANTICIPATING IT, AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER RICH, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. DO YOU NOTICE THAT THERE ARE MORE CONTAMINANTS IN THE SAS SOURCE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OR LESS, OR FEWER? IT'S US. WE MUST MONITOR IT. AND YEAH, THERE'S EPA. I THINK EVERY FIVE YEARS COMES OUT WITH, LIKE A BAR, UNREGULATED CONTAMINANT, DIFFICULTY HEARING YOU. OH, IT'S CALLED UCMR. THEY

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CALL IT UNREGULATED CONTAMINANT MONITORING RULE. AND EVERY FIVE YEARS THEY ADD NEW LIKE PFAS.

THEY'VE ADDED 29 NEW ONES IN UCMR FIVE, LITHIUM IS ANOTHER ONE. THEY'RE ADDING BOTH BATTERIES OUT THERE IN THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. SO THAT'S THAT'S EPA'S APPROACH TO ALL THIS. THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPS THE REGULATIONS. MCLS AND ALL THAT DRINKING. SO THE COST OF REMOVING WE PROBABLY COULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT THE COST OF CLEANING THAT WATER SOURCE WOULD GO UP. PROBABLY THAT'S WHY WHAT WHAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THE ARO OPERATING COSTS ARE ARE ACTUALLY MORE COMPETITIVE THAN KEEPING THE ION EXCHANGE TREATMENTS. THERE'S PEACOCK TOWERS, LIME SOFTENING, ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE. SO AND THE PFAS, THE REGULATIONS ARE STILL CHANGING. SO THOSE COSTS AREN'T GOING TO GO DOWN. THEY'RE ONLY GO UP. SO WHAT WE FOUND IN THE STUDY IS THE, THE BRACKISH ARO TREATMENT IS ACTUALLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE OPERATING THAN WHAT THE FACT. SO IF WE GO IN AND WANTED TO REHAB THOSE WELLS, THOSE SAS WELLS, DO YOU HAVE TO PERMIT THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WE WOULD BE TAKING MORE WATER FROM THAT SOURCE THAT YOU SAID IS MORE HEAVILY REGULATED TO PERMIT. THE SURFICIAL WELLS ARE ALREADY PERMITTED. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A IT'S JUST REHABBING THEM OR REPLACING. YES. OKAY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DRAWING ALMOST 2 MILLION MORE GALLONS A DAY. SO THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER SUPPLY. YES. NEEDS TO YOU NEED TO PERMIT THE ADDITIONAL WELLS, BUT THAT'S EASILY PERMITTED. YOU SAID THAT THE SURFICIAL IS ALREADY EXISTING IN A PERMIT. THAT'S CORRECT. HELLO? I WAS I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT IF WE'RE REHABILITATING THE. WELL, THERE'S NO PERMITTING WITH DEP OR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THAT'S SORT OF A MAINTENANCE TYPE ITEM. BUT IF YOU'RE REPLACING AN EXISTING WELL, EVEN IF YOU MAINTAIN THE SAME WATER SUPPLY, THERE'S PERMITTING REQUIRED TO MOVE IT TO A NEW LOCATION WITH THE WELLHEAD, THE LOCATION, THE SANITARY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

AND THOSE ARE A LOT OF THE COMPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH ANY OF THESE WELLS. SO A LOT OF REHAB GOES ON, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF EACH DAY OF EACH OF THOSE FLORIDAN WELLS? LIKE PRODUCTION IS PERFECT, BUT CAPACITY, WE WOULD RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING FLORIDAN AQUIFER. WELL, THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IS 1.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. BUT THE CAPACITY DESIGN CAPACITY IS 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, BUT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HIGH PRODUCTION. WELL, THIS IS WE CAN'T RELY ON THIS. BUT TODAY IT'S A HIGH PRODUCTION. WELL, AND IT CAN PROVIDE 1.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO THE TREATMENT PROCESS. HOWEVER, IT'S PERMITTED FOR 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND IN EACH YOU DON'T WANT TO, OVER PUMP THESE WELLS BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE IT'S CALLED TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS. BUT YOUR WATER QUALITY GOES UP IF. I'M SORRY, IT'S CALLED TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS. BUT YOUR WATER QUALITY GOES, DEGRADES IF YOU, AS YOU PUMP IF YOU, AS YOU OVER PUMP THE WELL SO, YOU KNOW, 1 MILLION GALLON PER DAY CAPACITY IS KIND OF THE SWEET SPOT. AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE DESIGN CAPACITY IS FOR THE FLORIDA. WELL AND FUTURE FLORIDA WELLS. SO YOU'D HAVE ONE WELL DEDICATED, YEAH. JUST A RULE OF THUMB. THE FLORIDAN WELLS, PROBABLY 10 TO 1 PRODUCTION WISE TO A SUFFICIENT AND COST WISE IS 4 TO 1. SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE. BUT NOT EVERYBODY DOES BRACKISH IN FLORIDA BECAUSE IT'S MORE OPERATING COST. BUT THAT'S A RULE OF THUMB FOR PROVISION FOR. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL ARO BYPRODUCTS. IS IT A SLURRY. IS IT A SOLID. IS IT A WHAT IS. IT'S A SALT. IT'S VERY HIGH SALT HIGH LEVELS OF SALT WATER. YOU'RE YOU'RE PULLING OUT OKAY AT THE SALINITY OF SEA. SO IT'S A HIGH SALINE WATER WE CALL IT SOLUTION. BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY WATER. IS THAT INJECTED THOUSAND FEET, 3000, 3000, 3000, 3000 FOR DEEP INJECTION. YEAH THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE. WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD READ THAT AT ONE TIME. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD USE IT TO GIVE PEOPLE'S CHLORINATORS FOR THEIR POOLS. OKAY. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU PETER. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU HAVE ANY MORE THAT YOU WANT TO SHOW US OR PRESENTATIONS? I THINK ANY MORE

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QUESTIONS? ANY FOR PETER? ANY ANYONE? WELL, THAT THAT ENDS THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK OF ME, I'M HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WOULD HAUL OFF AND HIT YOU IN THE HEAD LIKE THAT. HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY. IT'S A IT'S A MILTON WOULD WOULD NEVER DO THAT. NO NO IT WAS I I'LL ATTEST TO THAT MILTON HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. NO, NO. SEE THE OTHER GUY. YES. OKAY. WELL, WE CAN GO WITH THE. ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS? DO THEY HAVE ANYONE HAVE A COMMENT? NO COMMENT. NO COMMENT OKAY. NO COMMENTS THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

HERE. OUR MANAGER MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DO I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE, KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER, BUT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED THE ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETION OF THE RO PLANT, WHICH IS THE FINAL CLEARANCE FROM THE FDEP. AND THE LETTER SAID THE SYSTEM IS RELEASED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE PERMITTED PLANS. SO IT IS OFFICIALLY UP AND RUNNING. AWESOME. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT LISA SCOTT, WHO, WORKS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WAS NAMED AS THE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR A MEDIUM SIZED POLICE AGENCY FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AT THE FLORIDA CHIEFS POLICE ASSOCIATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH HONOR FOR LISA AND FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT AND KATHLEEN LANNON, WITH ASSISTANCE FROM JOE HOGAN, AS I READ IN THE REPORT, RECEIVED THE FLORIDA GANG INVESTIGATORS ASSOCIATION. ASSOCIATION COPS AND BOBBERS PROGRAM, WHICH IS A YOUTH CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAM THAT NO ONE ELSE HAD. BUT THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AS WELL. AND THE CITY OF STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO RECEIVED THE WILLIAM NEELY GANG PREVENTION AWARD FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AS WELL, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS. AND OBVIOUSLY SHOWS THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD. YES, SIR. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. CHIEF WE JUMPED AHEAD OF OURSELVES. WE STILL HAVE THE. WHEN WE START OVER WITH THE APPROVAL. WE STILL HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, IT WAS, COMMISSIONER RICH AND COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES.

OKAY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I SEE NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? I OKAY, I DO WANT TO ASK, AN ISSUE CAME UP AND I CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, IF YOU'RE INCLINED, WE WERE CONTACTED BY ASHLEY CAPITAL AND THEY WERE REVIEWING THE, LANDFILL PROPERTY, AND THE SOME TIME AGO, I THINK IT WAS LIKE, MAYBE 2010 OR SO. THE THERE'S A CHURCH DIRECTLY BEHIND THE LANDFILL THAT WHEN IT WAS APPROVED TO BE, DEVELOPED PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS INCLUDED A, AN EASEMENT THAT PROVIDED A ACCESS ROAD THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR, ESSENTIALLY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ULTIMATELY CROSS THAT PATH. THEY DETERMINED THAT THE EASEMENT WAS NOT RECORDED. IT IS IN THE PUD AND A CONDITION OF THE PUD. SO THE CITY COULD RECORD THE EASEMENT. THEY WERE ASKING ME IF I WOULD GET THE CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE INCLINED TO RECORD THAT EASEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. IF YOU'RE INCLINED, I CAN BRING IT BACK NEXT MEETING AS AN AGENDA ITEM. I RECALL THE, I ACTUALLY I THINK THAT WAS LIKE 2011. I RECALL THAT PUD. AND THERE WAS I DO RECALL, HAVING SOME SORT OF FIRE ACCESS IN THE BACK AND SO, BUT, I WOULD, I DON'T I PROBABLY, I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE RECORDING, ISN'T IT. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S SO IT'S IN THE PUD. IF THE REASON IT DIDN'T GET RECORDED IS PROBABLY BECAUSE NOBODY DIDN'T BUILD IT.

WELL, WE DIDN'T BUILD. THE CHURCH IS BUILT, BUT THE CITY DIDN'T BUILD THE ROAD FROM STATION TWO THROUGH THE LANDFILL, LANDFILL. AND THEN INTO THE BACK OF ASTOR LANE. AND WHATEVER THOSE PROPERTIES ARE TO ACCESS INDIAN STREET. IF IT'S A IT'S IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'D PROBABLY BE BETTER FOR ME TO BRING IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM ON AUGUST SIX TO GIVE THE BACKGROUND. YEAH. AND I'LL DO SO AUGUST 12TH, NOT AUGUST SIX. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ONLY TWO. OR IS WITH ITEM SIX AND SEVEN. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

CALENDAR. SECOND, WE HAVE A APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. A SECOND, ANY ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I SEE NONE. ALL IN FAVOR I HAVE TO DO. OH, YES. I'M SORRY. MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER. COLLINS. YES, VICE MAYOR. RICH. YES, MAYOR.

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BRUNNER. YES OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMMISSION ACTION. LEE, I'M GOING TO READ THIS AND LET

[6. ACCEPTING A STATE APPROPRIATION FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR GUY DAVIS PARK IMPROVEMENTS (RC): RESOLUTION No. 62-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA ACCEPTING A STATE APPROPRIATION OF $500,000.00 FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT GUY DAVIS PARK; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AS A CONDITION OF AWARD; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

YOU READ THE RESOLUTION. IT'S, ACCEPTING STATE APPROPRIATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR GUY DAVIS PARK IMPROVEMENTS. ALL RIGHT? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. RESOLUTION NUMBER 62, DASH 2024, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, ACCEPTING A STATE APPROPRIATION OF $500,000 FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT GUY DAVIS PARK, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AS A CONDITION OF AWARD PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS BEN HOGARTH, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, SO I WAS GOING TO JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE ITEM, PENAL HAS A VERY BRIEF TIMELINE PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL JUST TO GO OVER WHERE THIS PROJECT MAY HAVE COME FROM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T BEEN ON COMMISSION FOR AS LONG AS THIS, YOU KNOW, PROJECT HAS BEEN KIND OF IN CONCEPTION, SO THE LONG STORY SHORT FOR THE LAST YEAR IS THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, YOU ALL ADOPTED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2024 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE BROUGHT FORWARD, THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS FOR POTENTIAL APPROPRIATION TO THE STATE, THE STATE DID END UP APPROPRIATING MONEY FOR ONE OF THEM, IT WAS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS GUY DAVIS, SO WE WERE EXCITED TO GET THAT MONEY, FOR THIS PROJECT. PROJECT, CAN. WELL, WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON CONSTRUCTION, ON ENGINEERING DESIGN AS WELL, RIGHT NOW, STAFF IS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS NOW WHERE IT RESTS AND RESIDE, KIND OF AS A GRANT PROGRAM, SO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE IS SORT OF ACTING AS A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE STATE FOR THIS PROGRAM. THEY'VE REQUESTED PERMISSION FROM US TO BASICALLY SIGN AND EXECUTE A GRANT AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DELIVERABLES. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO RECEIVE THAT, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, IN REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PROJECT, SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE TONIGHT, NOT TALK TOO MUCH. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THE QUICK TIMELINE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE STUFF. I'M HERE. AND THEN PAUL IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE CRA IS RIGHT NOW WITH THAT PROJECT. WELL, BEN, THANKS FOR EXPLAINING ALL THAT TO US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BEN. PAUL GHANIZADA, DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD, SO WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE ALSO, JANA FOLEY, FROM CALVIN GIORDANO AND ASSOCIATES, I'LL BRING HIM UP AND SHORTLY TO GIVE A PRESENTATION AND UPDATE ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE, LIKE BEN, MENTIONED WE'VE HAD CHANGED LEADERSHIP AND COMMISSION SINCE WE INITIATED THE PROJECT. SO I DO WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT, SO THE IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY PARK IMPROVEMENTS WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH A CHARRETTE, THE EASTER CHARRETTE THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2002, THAT MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2004. AND WE OFTEN USE THAT AS A GUIDE TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS IN THE EASTWARD NEIGHBORHOOD, IN 2014, IT WAS COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT INITIALLY INITIATED THE PROJECT FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DEVELOPED THE MASTER PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED CONTINGENT UPON FINDING THIRD PARTY FUNDING, AT THAT TIME, COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT DID APPLY FOR $4 MILLION APPROPRIATION FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE STATE, BUT PLEASE NOTE THAT EVEN AT THAT TIME, IT DID NOT INCLUDE THE RECREATION CENTER. IT WAS ALWAYS THE PARK ITSELF. RIGHT, WE DID NOT GET FUNDING AT THAT TIME, SO THERE WERE NO ACTION TAKEN UNTIL ACTUALLY 2019, WHEN DAVID DIAS BECAME THE CITY MANAGER, WE LOOKED, REVISITED THE MASTER PLAN AND AMENDED THE MASTER PLAN BASED ON THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAD OCCURRED OVER THE YEARS, AND THEN THE PROJECT WAS DIVIDED INTO FOUR PHASES, PHASE ONE AND TWO INCLUDED NEW BASEBALL FIELDS, CONCESSION STAND, RESTROOMS, UPGRADED PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WITH SOME WATER FEATURES, NEW STAGE PAVILIONS, LANDSCAPING AND PARKING AREAS, AND THE PHASE THREE AND FOUR, WOULD BE, WOULD COME INTO PLAY IF FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE. PHASE THREE WAS RECREATION CENTER IMPROVEMENTS AND PHASE FOUR WAS, OVERFLOW, OVERFLOW GRASS PARKING AREA, AND SO WE REVISED THE MASTER PLAN WE PRESENTED TO THE EAST STEWART COMMUNITY, BACK IN 2019. AND WE WENT OUT FOR RFP JUST FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO. AND THIS IS BACK IN 2019. AND THEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS FURTHER AMENDED IN 2020. WE CHANGED THE DESIGN TO INCLUDE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND REMOVE THE BASEBALL FIELD. SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THE BASEBALL FIELDS AT THE SAILFISH PARK, SO WE REJECTED THE PROPOSAL THAT CAME FORWARD, AS PART OF THE FIRST RFP. AND WE WENT OUT FOR RFP AGAIN, SECOND RFP IN 2020. AND

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WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE MASTER PLAN AT THAT TIME, WE RECEIVED TEN PROPOSALS FOR THE PROJECT. WE CONTRACTED THE DESIGN WITH CALVIN GIORDANO AND ASSOCIATES IN 2021. AND THEN LATER THAT YEAR, WE ALSO CONDUCTED A PRE-DESIGN SURVEY TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE EASTER COMMUNITY AND STEWART RESIDENTS, AT THAT TIME, WE SURVEYED 327 PARTICIPANTS, AND SOME OF THE TOP ACTIVITIES THAT CAME FROM THAT SURVEY WAS, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR EXERCISE AND WALKING TRAILS, PICNIC AREAS, EVENT SPACE, CHILDREN'S PLAY EQUIPMEN, LIGHTING, SITE AMENITIES AND FURNISHINGS, BATHROOM FACILITIES, AND, SPORTS PROGRAMING, SO THEN WE STARTED WORKING BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AND, AND THE MASTER PLAN, WE STARTED WORKING ON THE SCHEMATIC PLAN, AND THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD IN JANUARY 2022, WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC THAT SHOWED UP AT THAT MEETING. AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD AT THAT MEETING WAS THEY WANTED TO SEE, SKATE PARK IN THE PLAN, THE EASTER COMMUNITY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE CULTURE AND HERITAGE OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY, THROUGHOUT THE PARK, ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK, IMPROVE THE EXISTING RUNNING TRACK, IMPROVE LIGHTING, ENSURE THAT THE STAGE HAS THE PROPOSED STAGE, HAS THE ADA COMPLIANCE.

REQUIREMENT, AND PROVIDE ACTIVITIES FOR ALL AGE GROUPS. AND SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AT THAT TIME, WE FURTHER ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER HISTORY OF EAST STEWART, WE ACTUALLY FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE AND, DEVELOPED SOME IDEAS AND CONCEPTS THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE, IN THE FORM OF ART INTO THE PARK. AND, YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE CAN CELEBRATE THEIR HISTORY, LEADERS, PIONEERS, AND CULTURES OF EAST STEWART AND INCORPORATE THOSE INTO AS ART ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PARK, NOT JUST THE PARK, BUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, WE MET ON SATURDAYS AND QUARTERLY BASIS FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH OCTOBER 2022. TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK, AND GIANNO IS HERE. HE IS GOING TO, PRESENT THE EAST STEWART PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN, THAT WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH THOSE THOSE MEETINGS.

GREAT, GREAT, WE HAVE SORRY. WE UPDATED THE MASTER PLAN, BASED ON COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, AND THEN THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND BOARD MEETING IN 2023, SO WE, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE DID NOT CHANGE. WE KEPT THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, BUT WE DID INCORPORATE, AN AREA FOR SKATE PARK, ABOUT 12,400FT■!S AREA FOR SKATE PARK, PENDING THAT, THE PRIVATE GROUP PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, WE ALSO PROVIDED, OUR PROVIDING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SECOND BATHROOM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK, COMMUNITY DOG PARK, LAWN AREA FOR ACTIVITIES, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK WITH YARD GAMES AND LINEAR PARK, FOR THAT COULD BE ENJOYED BY ALL AGES.

AND ADDITIONAL ARE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE THROUGHOUT THE PARK. SO THE, THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE WOULD BE COMPLETED AS PART OF THE SECOND PHASE. SO WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, AND WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THESE ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS, ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT CAME THROUGH MEETINGS, BUT THOSE WOULD BE INCORPORATED AS, AS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, AT THAT MEETING, BACK IN JANUARY 2023, THE BOARD DID DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PROJECT. SO WE DID COMPLETE 30% DESIGN BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2023.

AND, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DID REVIEW THE THOSE PLANS AND PROVIDED COMMENTS, TO, THEIR, THEIR WORK, THE CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON, FINALIZING THE 60% DESIGN AND I AND I AM BUDGETING FOR, $7 MILLION IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 CRA BUDGET THAT YOU'LL SEE IN SEPTEMBER FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK, GIANNO TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE DESIGN AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE IN THE PROCESS. GOOD EVENING, GIANNA WITH CALVIN DONALD ASSOCIATES. IT'S A PLEASURE. AND WE DO HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO PUT TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS OVERALL PARK. AND IT'S REALLY WE HAVE REALLY WORKED OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR SCOPE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK ALL THE EXTRA WORK TO ENSURE THAT THE LONG TERM, ADDITIONAL PHASES THAT COULD COME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARK

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WOULD ALL WORK VERY SEAMLESSLY WITH WHAT THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE. AND, YOU KNOW, MUCH, MUCH TO COMMEND TO THE CITY FOR. WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME TO PAUSE TO REALLY BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE PARK REALLY ARE HERE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE OVERALL COMMUNITY. AS A WHOLE. I'M SO EXCITED OVER THIS. YEAH, SO, SO A LOT OF THOSE FEEDBACKS THAT THAT WE GOT OVER THE SORT OF PROLONGED PARTICIPATION OF A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN FACT, A LOT OF THEM OPENED UP THEIR PRIVATE RESOURCES OF DATA, PHOTOGRAPHS, AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY COULD TO SORT OF GIVE US, TOWARDS THAT EFFORT, SO I'LL SAY NEXT, A LOT OF PANEL. SO WE MET IN THIS ROOM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WITH WITH THAT SUBCOMMITTEE NEXT AND OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE COMMUNITY AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE VALUE THAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT. AND THE TAKEAWAY WAS THAT THERE WERE SIX MAIN THEMES THAT WE WANTED TO CELEBRATE THROUGH THAT. THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, ONE WAS CELEBRATING THE WOMEN AND LEADERSHIP, PARTICULARLY RECOGNIZING THE WOMEN AT THE SPECTRUM SCHOOL WERE REALLY THE SORT OF TORCHBEARERS OF SORT OF TEACHING YOUNG CHILDREN. HOW TO, BE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE, THE MIGRATION OF THE MANY DIFFERENT, PIONEER FAMILIES THAT CAME HERE OF COURSE, SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO MR. GUY DAVIS AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS. THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE EDUCATORS CELEBRATING THE IMPACT OF SPORTS AND CELEBRATING THE BLACK HISTORIC BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE FOCUS ON THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES HAD NEXT. SO WE'VE COMPILED ALL OF THAT TOGETHER INTO AN EAST STEWART PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE SEE IT IS THE FIRST STEP TO A TO A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO PERIODICALLY SO THAT THIS HISTORY NEVER GETS LOST. WE ARE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO US THROUGH THE RESIDENTS. HOPEFULLY, ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME MORE DATA SO THAT THAT DATA CAN KIND OF THAT, THAT MASTER PLAN CAN BE, AUGMENTED NEXT. SO PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN INCLUDES SORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE VALUE OF PUBLIC ART IS. AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE HISTORICAL IMAGES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM THE EAST. STEWART COMMUNITY. NEXT. SO IN THERE, WE TALK ABOUT SORT OF AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AS TO WHAT THE VALUE OF PUBLIC ART IS. NEXT IN IN THE PLAN ITSELF. NEXT, WE PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES, PARTICULARLY FOR THE ARTISTS, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THEY NEED TO FRAME THEIR WORK AND HOW THEY NEED TO APPROACH THEIR WORK SO THAT IT IS SENSITIVE TO THE TO THE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT. SO THOSE WERE, EXPRESSING ISSUES OF DIVERSITY, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE ART IS UNIQUE, AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT TOWARDS THOSE EFFORTS, WE PROVIDE A LOT OF GUIDELINES FOR THE ARTIST. NEXT. AND THOSE ARE LAID OUT IN VERY IN, IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, SUCH AS HOW DO YOU SUPPORT THE LOCAL CULTURE AND THE LOCAL BUSINESSES? HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT? HOW DO YOU PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF CAPACITY BUILDING, AND HOW ARE YOU TRUE TO THE OVERALL HISTORY? THAT'S THERE? WE ALSO INCLUDED CRITERIA THAT THE CITY SHOULD USE IN TERMS OF EVALUAT GO IN, O DETERMINE IF OUR ART IS, BETTER THAN ANOTHER SORT OF, CANDIDATE.

THOSE INCLUDES THE ARTISTIC MERIT OF THE OVERALL PIECE, THE SENSE OF PLACE, THE SUITABILITY TO AN OVERALL COLLECTION, AND OF COURSE, THE MATERIAL AND DURABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ART COMPONENTS, ONCE THEY GO IN, THAT THEY'RE NOT FADING INTO 2 OR 3 YEAR TIME PERIOD OR THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO, TO DECAY OR GETTING BRITTLE WITH THE SUN. RIGHT? WE ALSO CREATED SOME CURATORIAL THEMES TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE HOW THE ARTIST WILL BE PROVIDING THE ARTWORK. SO THERE'S THREE MAIN THEMES THAT WE WANTED TO DERIVE FROM THOSE BIGGER IDEAS THAT WE GOT FROM THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE REALLY CELEBRATING THE HERITAGE OF THE EAST STUART NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT, CELEBRATING THE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN WHICH, A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SORT OF LIVE, AND THE CHARACTER AND LOOK OF THE STUART AREA. AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS IDEA OF IDENTITY CELEBRATING THE, EQUITY AND THE PIONEER AND DIVERSITY WITHIN THE OVERALL COMMUNITY, THEN THE

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MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THAT WOULD WERE THE MAJOR COMPONENTS THAT, MADE UP THE SORT OF ART PIECES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT PHASE ONE NEXT. SO THOSE FIRST STEPS INCLUDED FIVE DIFFERENT ART COMPONENTS THAT WERE PARLAYED INTO THE PARK PROGRAM. PART OF THE PARK PROGRAM INCLUDES PARKING ON THE SOUTH WITH A SORT OF FLEXIBLE EVENT SPACE THAT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FARMERS MARKETS, MOVIES IN THE LAWN, ANY KIND OF PICKUP, SORT OF FACILITY, AS WELL AS OVERFLOW PARKING, IN THAT PERVIOUS AREA, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK, YOU HAVE SORT OF A MULTI-USE PLAY FIELD AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WILL BE THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU'VE GOT STAGE LAWN SPLASHPAD, RESTROOM AND CONCESSION AND, A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND, REHAB. SO WITHIN THERE WE WANTED TO SORT OF EMBED OPPORTUNITIES FOR ART IN PUBLIC PLACES. OF COURSE, THESE WERE NOT BUILT INTO THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THE WORK AND INTO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT AS WE GET, ALL THE COMPONENTS PARLAYED FROM A PRICING STANDPOINT, WE'RE ABLE TO ROLL OUT SORT OF PRIORITIZATIONS AS TO WHICH ART COMPONENT GETS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE OVERALL PARK ELEMENT. SO I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY. NEXT, THE FIRST ONE IS, THE NAMESAKE OF THE PARK, WHICH IS MR. GUY DAVIS. WE WANT TO HAVE SORT OF AN ENTRY FEATURE THAT CELEBRATES HIM. AND THE ONE THING THAT WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS THAT HE WAS MOST RECOGNIZABLE BY HIS HAT. THE FACT THAT HE WORE A HA. SO, WE HAVE SORT OF A HAT SELF CARE WITH A WITH A, MADE UP OF A RIBBON. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THE RIBBON IS SORT OF TYING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. THE OUTSIDE OF THE RIBBON IS THE ROYAL BLUE, AND THE INSIDER IS, IS A GOLD COLOR. SO THOSE WERE THE COLORS OF THE SCHOOL OF SPECTRUM. SO WE WANTED TO SORT OF BRING THAT HISTORY INTO THE OVERALL, COMPONENT NEXT. WE ALSO WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE PIONEERING QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR ARCHITECTS SO THAT PART OF THE STRUCTURAL SYSTEM ARE PANELS THAT ARE OUT THAT THAT, ESSENTIALLY BECOMES THE FACADE OF THE RESTROOM AND CONCESSION BUILDING. EACH ONE OF THOSE PANELS THEN BECOMES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ART DISPLAY. SO A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT ARTISTS COULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME ART COMPONENTS THERE. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY MOSAICS COULD GO ON THAT ONE NEXT. WE ALSO WANTED TO CREATE A SPORTS WALK OF FAME, THESE WILL BE COMPONENTS THAT ARE EMBEDDED WITHIN THE CONCRETE, WITH PLAQUES. AND THEY CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE GONE ON AND DONE GREAT THINGS, IN THE WORLD OF SPORT, NEXT. ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARK, IF YOU SEE THE IMAGE ON THE TOP RIGHT WHERE THOSE OVERHEAD UTILITIES ARE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS. UNDERGROUNDED. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH FPL TO SERVICE THAT, THAT BUILDING FROM THE SOUTH AND THE MAJORITY OF THE WIRES THAT ARE COMING ACROSS OUR AT&T ARE WORKING WITH AT&T TO GET THOSE THINGS UNDERGROUNDED SO THAT THEN WE CAN HAVE CLEARANCE. WHAT THAT WILL DO IS THAT THAT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO START TO LOOK AT THAT FACADE, THAT BLANK WALL THAT CURRENTLY IS MOLDED AND MILDEW AND KIND OF IS AN EYESORE WORKING WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER SO THAT THAT WALL CAN BECOME SORT OF A WOMAN'S MURAL WALL, THE PLACE WHERE WE, SORT OF CELEBRATE THE VALUE AND ROLE THAT WOMEN PLAYED IN THE OVERALL COMMUNITY. NEXT WE CREATED A PLAZA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE AREA THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED FOR A POTENTIAL SKATE PARK, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE REALLY TOOK AWAY FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS THIS NOTION THAT INVOLVEMENT IN SCHOOL AND EDUCATION WAS SUCH A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO, TO ENSURING SOME LEVEL OF ADVANCEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY, SO THE NOTION THAT WHENEVER YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, YOU RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE CALLED IN CLASS. SO WE USE THAT AS A SYMBOL. AND THE IDEA IS THAT, WITH THESE ART SCULPTURES, YOU'LL HAVE HANDS SORT OF BEING RAISED AND COME OUT OF THE SCULPTURE GARDEN. BUT THEN THE WING OF THEM, WHICH WE'RE TAKING FROM SORT OF AN INSPIRATION OF THE BACK FIN OF A FISH, THEN BECOMES A PLACE WHERE WE PROVIDE THE HISTORY AND THE

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IMAGES OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO CELEBRATE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THIS THEN BECOMES SORT OF A PLAZA PIECE THAT BECOMES A DESTINATION, FOR ART. AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE MORE AND THIS ONE REALLY ISN'T A, AN INCORPORATION IN THE PARK PROJECT AS MUCH AS, SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY IS LOST WHEN THE BUILDINGS GET LOST. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO CREATE THIS MEMORIAL MARKERS THAT COULD BE, SORT OF OVERLAID THROUGHOUT THE EAST. STEWART COMMUNITY THAT COULD IDENTIFY CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT ARE NO LONGER THERE SORT OF MARKERS THAT MARK WHAT USED TO BE THERE. IF IT WAS A CORNER STORE THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT, OR A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING THAT MERITED SOME LEVEL OF DISTINCTION, AND THEN SORT OF A PLAQUE WITH, WITH SOME IMAGES, IS THAT COPPER? THAT WOULD BE A MATERIAL THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING CALLED FOLIA. IT'S THE MATERIAL THAT DISNEY USES IN ALL OF THEIR SIGNAGE. YOU CAN TAKE A SLEDGE HAMMER TO IT AND NOTHING HAPPENS TO IT. IT DOESN'T FADE. I INSTALLED A SIGN MADE OUT OF IT ON A BEACHFRONT PROPERTY IN 2002, ABOUT A MARATHON, AND I WENT DOWN THERE LAST YEAR AND IT WAS LIKE IT WAS INSTALLED YESTERDAY. SO IT'S A GREAT MATERIAL. I LIKE THAT, I LIKE THAT IDEA. YEAH, NEXT. YEAH. SO THROUGH OUR RESEARCH, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE EITHER OF SIGNIFICANT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OR OF SIGNIFICANT VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE SORT OF MERITORIOUS TO BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN. NEXT SO, AS PENNY MENTIONED, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE PHASE OF FINALIZING THE 60% PLANS, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HOLD UP WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE NEGOTIATIONS DONE BECAUSE OF THE PAUSE THAT WE DID TO SORT OF COME UP WITH THE MASTER PLAN COMPONENTS. THERE WERE PERSONNEL CHANGES IN THE UTILITY COMPANIES, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE DEALING WITH THEM ALL OVER AGAIN FROM, FROM, FROM SCRATCH. SO THAT HAS TAKEN US A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT THAN WE REALLY WANTED TO. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THOSE 60% PLANS DONE BY LATE AUGUST OR EARLY SEPTEMBER. WE'RE THEN GOING TO DO WE'RE GOING TO, BRING ON OUR THIRD PARTY, COST ESTIMATOR FOR THEM TO GIVE US A FULL EVALUATION OF ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE PARK. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE'RE GOING TO DETERMINE WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT IS ALLOCATED, WHAT CAN BE PART OF THE BASE BID. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BID OUT ALL THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE PARK, EVEN EVEN IF THEY'RE OVER BUDGET AS ADD ALTERNATES, SO THAT THEN YOU CAN GET PRICING DIRECTLY FROM THE CONTRACTORS SO THAT THEY SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE US GUESSING WHAT THE MARKET PRICE IS, BUT YOU HAVE THE CONTRACTORS ACTUALLY TELLING YOU WHAT THE COST TO BUILD THESE THINGS ARE, SO THAT THEN YOU CAN PRORATE AND HAVE REAL GOOD NUMBERS TO PLAN FOR FUTURE PHASES, IN THE FUTURE AT THAT TIME IN NOVEMBER, WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE OUR LAST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO LET THEM KNOW OUT OF ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, WHAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THAT THRESHOLD WITH THE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS, WITH THE GOAL OF FINALIZING THE PLANS AND GETTING READY FOR BID AT THE END OF THE YEAR, SO THAT BY THE MIDDLE OF 2020, THE MIDDLE OF 2026, WE'LL BE HAVING A RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE PARK. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THAT. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. PANEL DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THAT WRAPS UP OUR PRESENTATION? WE'RE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS TO ACCEPT THE APPROPRIATION. APPROPRIATION RIGHT. ALSO MOVE TO ACCEPT APPROPRIATION. SECOND OKAY. I HAVE A YOUR PRESENTATION WAS NOT IN OUR PACKET. CORRECT NO. THAT WASN'T THIS WAS JUST AN UPDATE. AS PART OF THE APPROPRIATION, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION. WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT SOMETHING, PLEASE. YES, FOR SURE. I'D LIKE A COPY OF IT AS WELL, MADAM MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I THINK WE SHOULD, IF IT'S OKAY, IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WE SEND A LETTER TO LETTERS TO, REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER AND SENATOR HARRELL, THANKING HIM FOR GETTING THIS APPROPRIATION COMPLETED AND GETTING IT TO US. IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION. WE DO IT BY CONSENSUS. SURE OKAY.

SO AND HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN A LETTER. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYONE FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, WE DO, MR. COOPER, I BELIEVE. YES. JOSEPH IS HE HERE? MY MAN JOE? STEVIE? STEVIE, IS

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IT STEVE OR IS IT JOE? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. JOSEPH COOPER, 906 SOUTHEAST NINTH STREET, TO, I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MISS PARNELL AND, OF COURSE, CALVIN AND GIORDANO FOR THEIR GREAT PRESENTATION TO SPEAK ON ITEM SIX. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO START WITH IS THAT I FOUND THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK, CONSIDERED TO BE A PUBLIC GOOD. AND SO IT'S DEFINED AS A PUBLIC GOOD, AS A TYPE OF GOOD THAT, THAT SUCCEED IN MEETING THE CRITERIA FOR NON-RIVALRY OR NON-EXCLUSIVE ITALY LIKE STREETLIGHTS. NO ONE CAN EXCLUDE ANYONE FROM USING I, OR SOMEONE USING IT WILL NOT REDUCE THE AVAILABILITY. SO IT'S A PUBLIC PARK BY DEFINITION, PUBLIC GOOD? YES IT IS, BUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC PARK CAN BE REGARDED AS A PUBLIC GOOD BECAUSE IT'S FULFILLING THE CRITERIA OF NON-EXCLUDABILITY AND NON-RIVALRY, BECAUSE ANYONE CAN USE THE PUBLIC PARK, THE GUY DAVIS PARK IN ITS IN ITS CONCEPT WHEN IT WAS FORMED, WAS LOCATED IN EAST STUART, BUT IT'S STILL A PUBLIC PARK. THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT WILL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OUR PARKS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST BY LAND MASS PARKS IN THE CITY. IT BECOMES A GATHERING, NOT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT THE WAY THIS PLAN WHO I HAVE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN, IS DESIGNED THE CONCEPT SPEAKING TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY WANT THIS, THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU CREATE THIS WHILE WE ARE CELEBRATING THE PIONEERS OF EAST STUART AS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE INCORPORATED, IT STILL IS GOING TO CREATE. I CALL IT A WORLD CLASS PARK THAT WILL BE UTILIZED BY ALL THE CITY RESIDENTS, BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION AND PROXIMITY. SO I IMPLORE THE COMMISSION TO KIND OF MAKE IT A PART AS IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE BUDGET, COMING UP. BUT WE WANT TO ALSO FUND IT, BECAUSE WITHOUT FUNDING IT, IT CAN'T GO FORWARD. AND I THINK IT'S THE TIME WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THEY WALKING THE STREETS MEETING EVERYBODY. AND I GREW UP THERE. I RAN TO THE PARKS AND PLAYED. AND SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT, GREAT, THING FOR THE CITY. AND IT'S GOING TO PUT OUR BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COUNTY, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO THEIR PARKS.

BUT WE HAVE KIWANIS PARK, WHICH IS GREAT, MEMORIAL PARK, BUT WITH THE MULTI USE, THE MULTI MULTI FACETS OF THIS PARK, IT BECOMES RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT LACROSSE BEING PLAYED, SOCCER BEING PLAYED, BASEBALL BEING PLAYED. NOW WE BRING IT ALL TOGETHER. WE IMPROVE THE FACILITIES BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC GOOD. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GET BEHIND AS A CITY, AND WE SHOULD FUND IT POSTHASTE AND GET IT DONE, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT. THANK YOU. I AGREE, MR. COOPER. I AGREE. THANK YOU, JOE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I SEE NONE. WE'LL TAKE A ROLL. CAN I JUST MAKE IT? YES SO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTION FOR THIS, DID YOU SAY 2004? NO. THAT WAS BEFORE. RIGHT. SO 20 YEARS? YES DOES IT? THE CITY HAS BEEN. I APPRECIATE THE PERSEVERANCE OF.

I THINK THAT PRECEDES EVEN YOU, TROY, DOESN'T IT? 2000. OH, YEAH. BY MANY YEARS. SO I DON'T KNOW. MIKE IS THE ONE THAT, HE DID IT BACK THEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPEDIMENTS I COULD IMAGINE THEM IS. ONE. THERE'S ONE IMPEDIMENT. I THINK I THINK, MR. COOPER, WERE YOU INVOLVED BACK THEN? 2000? I WISH. YEAH. HOW ABOUT I FOLLOWED THIS PROCESS OVER THE YEARS? YES. THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. YEAH. SO IN 2004, THE CRA WAS GENERATING ABOUT 100,000 A YEAR. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S TAKING SOME TIME NOW. WE DO HAVE THE MONEY IN THE COFFERS. WE GOT TO KIND OF WE KIND OF HAVE TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO, TO KIND OF GET IT STARTED.

NOW I THINK IT'S TIME, I THINK IT'S NEEDED AND I THINK IT'S WARRANTED. AND I BELIEVE ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM IT, NOT JUST THE IMMEDIATE RESIDENTS. SO I EMPHASIZE WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH A BIG PLOT OF LAND. I CAN'T REMEMBER 33 OR 35 ACRES.

WHAT IS IT EXACTLY? THAT WAS 16. OH, WELL, I'M REALLY EXAGGERATING. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S IT. AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S WE'VE GOTTA HAVE IT. WE CAN DO IT. I THINK, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN IT'S FINISHED, I THINK EVERYBODY WE CAN APPLAUD THIS BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS PUBLIC GOOD. YEAH. IT'S BIG. THANK YOU. I JUST I JUST HOPE WE CAN PRIORITIZE IT TO A GREATER DEGREE AND MOVE. IT WAS, I MEAN, THAT'S A TERRIFIC LOOKING PLAN. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO REVIEWING IT IN DETAIL. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DECISIONS WITH REGARD TO THE

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BUDGET ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. NOW WE'LL HAVE A ROLL. COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES, COMMISSIONER. COLLINS. YES, MAYOR. BRUNER. YES. VICE MAYOR RICH. YES OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS RELEASE OF UNITY OF TITLE FOR LOTS ONE AND TWO OF THE NORTONS

[7. RELEASE OF UNITY OF TITLE FOR LOTS 1 AND 2 OF THE NORTON'S LANDING PLAT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 69-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA RELEASING A UNITY OF TITLE FOR LOTS 1 AND 2 OF THE JANUARY 1988 NORTON’S LANDING PLAT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

LANDING PLAT. LEE, COULD YOU READ THAT, PLEASE? SURE RESOLUTION NUMBER 69, DASH 2024, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RELEASING A UNITY OF TITLE FOR LOTS ONE AND TWO OF THE JANUARY 1988 NORTONS LANDING PLAT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I THINK GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP JUST TO, AS A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS, THIS MATTER AROSE AT THE CITY IN APPROXIMATELY 2015. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ON, BUT, ANYWAY, IN 2015, WHEN MR. STANKOVIC CAME T, THE CITY'S BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND SOUGHT A, VARIANCE FOR SOME SETBACKS TO BUILD, A HOME ON WHAT WAS AMOUNTED TO ESSENTIALLY A LEGAL LOT IN, I DON'T KNOW WHICH YEAR IT WAS, BUT I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 2019, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT GRANTED THE SETBACKS THAT WENT FORWARD. BUT IN 2019, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS, TWO DIFFERENT UNITY OF TITLES THAT HAD BEEN RECORDED ON THE LOT. ONE WAS RECORDED IN FAVOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, AND TECHNICALLY IT WAS TWO BECAUSE ONE WAS RECORDED IN 1989 AND THEN IT WAS RECORDED AGAIN IN 1991 AND THE 1 IN 1991 SAID THAT IT REPLACED THE 1989 ONE, BUT IN DOING THIS AGENDA ITEM, I WAS CONCERNED THAT IF YOU JUST REMOVE THE 1991 ONE, WOULD THERE BE AN INTERPRETATION THAT THAT MEANT THE ONE FROM 1989 WAS NOW IN PLACE AGAIN? SO 89 AND 91 ARE CONSIDERED ONE UNITY OF TITLE FOR THE PURPOSES OF YOUR CONVERSATION TONIGHT, I HAD BEEN SPEAKING WITH MR. WATERS AND, THERE WAS ALSO A UNITY OF TITLE IN 2003 THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT WAS RELATED TO THAT OR WHAT HAPPENED THERE. BUT, BECAUSE IT EXISTED, I HAD ASKED MR. WATERS TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE COUNTY BEFORE COMING TO THE CITY COMMISSION, BECAUSE I KNEW IF IT WAS OUTSTANDING, IT WOULDN'T MATTER ANYWAY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WENT TO THE COUNTY BACK IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, AND THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITHDREW OR RESCINDED THE 2003 UNIT OF TITLE. SO NOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A APPROXIMATELY 3200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON WHAT AMOUNTS TO BE LOT TWO. BUT IT'S RESTRICTED BECAUSE THERE'S A UNITY OF TITLE BETWEEN LOT TWO AND LOT ONE, AND LOT ONE HAS HIS PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL HOME ON IT. AND THEREFORE, HE'S, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO REQUEST A WAIVER OF THE UNITY OF TITLE. AND I'LL LET TYSON WATERS TAKE IT FROM THERE.

THANKS FOR COMING, MR. WATERS. AND EXPLAINING THIS. THANK YOU. TYSON WATERS, ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT HERE. AND MR. MARTELL DID A GREAT JOB GIVEN THE HISTORY, WHICH IS PRETTY CONFUSING. BUT JUST TO KIND OF BACKTRACK EVEN MORE, THIS WHOLE SECTION WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE INDIAN GROVES PLAT FROM 1920. IN 1987, AN INDIVIDUAL OWNED A CHUNK OF THAT LAND. SHE ACTUALLY REPLANTED IT. SO YOU ENDED UP WITH A PLAT CALLED NORTONS LANDING, WHICH LOT ONE, TWO AND THREE, AROUND THE SAME TIME WAS MR. MARTELL SAID, IN 89 AND 91, THAT INDIVIDUAL GOT A UNITY OF TITLE, THAT IS, WITH THE CITY THAT'S STILL OUTSTANDING TODAY.

AND IT ACTUALLY INCLUDES NOT JUST LOT ONE AND LOT TWO, WHICH ARE MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY, BUT ALSO LOT THREE, WHICH IS A NEIGHBOR CLOSER TO THE MAIN ROAD. SO THIS UNITY IN TITLE ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES THREE LOTS, ONE OF WHICH IS NOT OUR, AS MISS MARTELL SAID, THE IDEA WITH THAT UNIT OF THE TITLE IS YOU CAN READ IN THE DOCUMENT WAS, AT PRESUMABLY AT SOME POINT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WAS PROPOSED FOR THOSE THREE LOTS NEVER TRANSPIRED. IN 2000, LOT THREE WAS SOLD OFF AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I'M SORRY, 1994, LOT THREE WAS SOLD OFF TO A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL. AND THEN IN 2000, LOTS ONE AND LOTS TWO STARTED, STARTED TO BE SOLD OFF, AND THEN THE OWNER OF LOT THREE. LOT TWO. WELL, EXCUSE ME, THE OWNER OF LOT ONE AND TWO, AGAIN,

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FOR WHATEVER REASON, BACK IN 2003 WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY AND GOT A UNITY OF TITLE FOR JUST LOTS ONE AND TWO AND DEVELOPED A HOME. WE I FIRST CAME IN ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO TO TRY AND UNRAVEL THIS AND REALIZE THE LEVELS OF COMPLEXITY FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY, WE FOUND THESE UNITY TITLES. WE FIRST WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY, WHO AGAIN HAD NO UNDERSTANDING OR KNOWLEDGE OF REASON WHY THEIR UNITY OF TITLE WAS IN PLACE, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS JURISDICTIONAL. THE CITY, THEY HAD NO POINT. SO THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD THAT ONE RELEASED BY MARTIN COUNTY. SO THE ONLY ONE LEFT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT'S LOT ONE, LOT TWO AND LOT THREE ARE THESE TWO UNITY TITLES. SO WHAT WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS ASKING YOU TO RELEASE THE UNITY TITLE, WHICH HAS NO MORE PURPOSE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT WAS INTENDED FOR A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S NOT HAPPENED. BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO SIMPLY IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO FINISH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON LOT TWO. THAT'S IT. ONCE THIS IS RELEASED, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE CITY, WORK WITH THEM TO ADDRESS WHAT ANY CONCERNS OR COMMENTS THEY HAVE. AS IT RELATES TO THE BUILDING PERMIT, SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE. OKAY THANK YOU. YES, SIR, HEY, TYSON. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND TRYING TO UNRAVEL THIS MESS, SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I'M GOING TO FIRST, I'M GOING TO JUST FOCUS ON, THE, THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE, OF THE, RESOLUTION, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, AND REALLY, I WANT TO JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THE LAST, I GUESS IT'S MAYBE A SENTENCE OR TWO. OH IT'S ON PAGE TWO OF THE RESOLUTION, AND IT IS, THE LAST SENTENCE, LET'S SEE THE OWNER OF THE PARTIALLY BUILT STRUCTURE ON LOT TWO COMPLETES THE PROPERTY TO THE EXTENT THAT STORMWATER, COULD. I KNOW THAT HE'S KIND OF HE'S MODIFIED THE, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OUTSIDE LANDSCAPING AND EXTERIOR OF THE SHELL ARE COMPLETE WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO PUT A I WANT TO PUT A DROP DEAD DATE OF WHAT I DON'T LIKE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH INTERPRETATION AS TO WHAT THAT IS. AND, I WAS TALKING WITH MR. MARTEL A LITTLE BIT AND HE SAID MAYBE MARCH, APRIL. I'D ACTUALLY BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT SOME OTHER OTHER LANGUAGE IN HERE AS WELL, GO UP TO ONE YEAR TO, TO GET THAT DONE. BUT BECAUSE THERE'S PRECEDENT FROM THIS, FROM A PROPERTY OVER ON SAINT LUCY CRESCENT THAT IF IT'S NOT COMPLETED, THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE DEMOED AND, AND THAT HE WOULD PUT UP A BOND TO COVER THE COST OF THE DEMO. SO WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR. SO TO ADDRESS A IT BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT FIRST THAT I CAN EASILY ADDRESS.

ANOTHER THING IN THIS RESOLUTION IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE END OF AUGUST TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE TWO BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS SEPARATE LOTS. WELL, THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS SEPTEMBER. BUT WHEN, WHEN MARTIN COUNTY RELEASED THEIR UNIT TITLE, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WENT AHEAD AND ASSIGNED A NEW PARCEL IDENTIFICATION. SO NOW IT IS OFFICIALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, LOT ONE AND LOT TWO. SO THAT'S BEEN DONE.

OKAY. AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE, THE TIMETABLE AND THE DEMOLITION, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE ONE IN PART BECAUSE THIS UNITY OF TITLE, IT ENCUMBERS LOT THREE, WHICH IS UNRELATED. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THIS UNIT TITLE. SO THIS REALLY JUST FIXES A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS MORE THAN JUST US. AND I THINK PART TWO IS IF THIS ISN'T RELEASED AND THIS IS HOW I FIRST CAME INVOLVED, WAS THE IDEA WAS IF THERE IF IN FACT THIS IS A UNITY TITLE AND FORCED TO BE ONE THAT THE TWO STRUCTURES WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE COMBINED INTO A STRUCTURE. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADDRESS ONGOING SITUATIONS SO THAT IF THE UNIT TITLE ISN'T RELEASED, WE DON'T WANT TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE. WE JUST WANT TO COMBINE IT WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. SO I KNOW AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS WOULD ARE MORE APPROPRIATELY TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS ALREADY, AND I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE, APPROPRIATE AVENUE THAT IN THE EVENT WE DON'T COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT BUILDING PERMIT, WHETHER IT RELATES TO LANDSCAPING, US, DEMONSTRATING THAT WE'VE MET ANY STORM WATER ISSUES AND DRAINAGE ISSUES. I THINK THERE'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE CITY. THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE MEANS TO DO THIS, AS OPPOSED TO CONDITION A UNITY OF TITLE THAT SAYS, WE'LL GRANT THIS IF YOU DO THIS, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS UNITY OF TITLE AFFECTS ANOTHER LOT THAT'S ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE UNITY OF TITLE. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I AND THE REASON I YOU KNOW, THE REASON I'M GOING

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THIS ROUTE IS, LIKE YOU SAID, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PRECEDENTS FROM A PROPERTY ON SAINT LUCIE PRESS ON SAINT LUCIE CRESCENT THAT WE, FORCED THE DEMOLITION ON, ALSO, WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS IS ABOUT THE LACK OF COMPLETION. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE ONLY AVENUE THAT WE HAVE IS, IS FINE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND RIGHT NOW, THE FINES ARE REDUCED TO JUDGMENT. ARE APPROXIMATELY 130,000 AND ANOTHER 98,000 THAT HAS NOT BEEN REDUCED TO JUDGMENT. AND BUT AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY HOMESTEAD, WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S WHY AS A CONDITION OF THE RELEASE FOR UNITY TITLE, I WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE. I WANT TO GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME TO GET IT DONE. AND I WANT TO MAKE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO FAIL, BUT I ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTED ON OUR END IF WE GRANT THIS. BUT I THINK YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT RIGHT NOW. IT IS A SINGLE TRACK OF LAND. IT'S UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP AS A SINGLE TRACK LAND. SO IT DOES HAVE HOMESTEAD PROTECTION. I THINK WHAT YOU DO BY GRANTING THIS UNITY, THIS RELEASE, YOU NOW OFFICIALLY AND FORMALLY CREATED TWO SEPARATE TRACKS OF LAND. SO THERE'S HOMESTEAD ON ONE TRACK THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE. IT HAS A HOME ON IT. THERE'S NO HOMESTEAD ON THE OTHER TRACK OF LAND. SO I THINK NOW YOU DO HAVE MORE TEETH TO SAY, GET IT DONE OR OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, I THINK THESE CONDITIONS, WHILE APPROPRIATE IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES, GIVEN THE HISTORY AND THE ISSUES WITH THIS UNITY OF TITLE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT DOES PRESENT THE CITY, I DON'T THINK THOSE REMEDIES ARE APPROPRIATE OR WARRANTED. YEAH. AND THE REASON SO I'M GOING TO THROW A HYPOTHETICAL OUT THERE, PUT PUT QUICK CLAIMS. PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO, A RELATIVE MOVED THEM IN THERE AND PUT A HOMESTEAD ON IT IMMEDIATELY. THEN WE LOSE OUR ABILITY TO DO HOMESTEAD, YOU KNOW. WELL, WELL, ONE, I MEAN, THERE IS STATUTORY PROTECTION BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE THESE DISCLOSURES OF IF I CONVEY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY AND THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION, THERE'S DISCLOSURES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ALREADY A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A MEANS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF PROTECT YOURSELF IN OTHER WAYS THROUGH FILING. AND, OKAY, SO LET ME THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE DELIBERATING, I'LL THINK ABOUT THIS, THESE ISSUES, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AND, AND, THE OWNER ACKNOWLEDGES THE, THAT WE DO HAVE THE JUDGMENTS AND UNDERSTANDS WE DO HAVE THE JUDGMENTS AND THE FINES ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING. I THINK THAT'S WHY I GOT HIRED. I WAS RETAINED IN THE FIRST PLACE TO TRY AND ADDRESS THE SITUATION AT HAND. AND AGAIN, I WAS RETAINED FIRST TO TRY AND TO TRY AND CONNECT THE UNITS TO MAKE IT A SINGLE, SINGLE HOME ON A LARGER TRACT PLAN. I THINK THROUGH OUR RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATIONS, I THINK THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENTION AND THIS ALLOWS THE ORIGINAL INTENTION. AGAIN, A BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED, I THINK, AGAIN, AS MR. MARTEL SAID BACK IN 2015, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT WAS INCORRECT, THAT THESE WERE TWO SEPARATE LEGAL LOCKS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT HAS SEEMED TO BE AN ERROR ON, AGAIN, NOT JUST THIS PROPERTY, BUT LOT THREE, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE MID 90S AND, JUST MAKE SURE HE AND HE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT HE NEEDS TO FIX THE STORMWATER. AND THAT ISSUE. WHAT I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE AGAIN, THERE MIGHT BE SOME DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER. BUT I THINK WHAT WHAT WE ALL ARE COMMITTED TO DO IS WORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WHATEVER SITUATIONS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED OUT THERE AND BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. AND THE LANDSCAPING AND GETTING THE EXTERIOR OF THE WHATEVER IS REQUIRED. AND I KNOW I THINK THAT'S THE FOCUS POINT TOO, OF MAKING SURE THE EXTERIOR IS IN A POSITION THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME OF THE UNSIGHTLY POINTS FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE NOT ONLY ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE, BUT THE PROPERTY AROUND WITH CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND IS THAT BEEN CLEANED UP? THAT I DON'T KNOW. BUT AGAIN, I THINK ALL OF THIS. YES. SO IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED AS, AS WE'RE ABLE TO TRY AND BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. BUT THIS THE RELEASE OF THE TITLE IS THE FIRST STEP TO ALLOW US TO BRING A BLOCK TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY. NOTHING TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. ROBERT SANKOVICH I'M THE OWNER. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THE STORMWATER IS THE COMMUNITY NEXT DOOR. THEIR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THEIR PARKING LOT ACTUALLY OVERFLOWS INTO MY DRIVEWAY AND GOES ACROSS ACTUALLY LOT THREE.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO TO STOP THAT FROM OVERFLOWING. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE ARE DRAINAGE, ACTUAL DRAINAGE, EASEMENT. MIKE. WELL, THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE THERE WAS A SWALE THAT WENT BETWEEN LOT TWO AND LOT THREE, AND THERE'S ALSO A DRAINAGE OR UTILITY EASEMENT ACROSS LOT ONE. BUT, THE NAME OF IS CALLED VILLAGE OAKS NOW. BUT BEFORE IT WAS VILLAGE OAKS, IT WAS IN 1991. IT WAS A DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION AND IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE SHEET FLOW OF THE

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STORMWATER TO RUN DOWN THEIR PARKING LOT. AND ACROSS LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE. THAT DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY ON THEM AND THAT WE'RE JUST OPEN SPACE. SO WHAT HAPPENED IN 1994 WHEN WHOEVER IT WAS THAT BUILT LOT THREE AND LOT ONE, THEY PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE WATER WOULD SHEET FLOW OVER THAT DRIVEWAY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOOGLE EARTH PICTURES, YOU CAN SEE A SWALE THAT DIRECTED THE WATER KIND OF INTO THE MANGROVE. AND WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE FILL IN TO PUT THE HOUSE ON LOT TWO, THE FILL FILLED IN THAT SWALE AND AS A RESULT IT NOW SHIFTS THE WATER TO ESSENTIALLY THE SOUTHEAST AND IT DIRECTS IT NOT INTO POPPLETON CREEK, BUT INTO THE BACKS OF, PARCELS THAT ARE TWO DOORS DOWN THE ROAD ARE OUR DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST HAD BEEN THAT, MR. STANKOVIC COULD PUT A GRATE IN AT THE EDGE OF HIS DRIVEWAY THAT COULD CAPTURE THAT WATER AND PUT A DRAINAGE PIPE OR STORMWATER PIPE UNDER HIS DRIVEWAY RIGHT BACK TO WHERE IT THE MANGROVES WERE ORIGINALLY, WITH A SMALL BAFFLE BOX OF SORTS TO CATCH THE WATER AND GO INTO THE CREEK AND ACCEPT THAT SHEET FLOW. BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE SHEET FLOW IS WAS DESIGNED FOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN VILLAGE OAKS, BUT I THINK IT'S 14 OR 16 UNITS. IF IN FACT, MR. STANKOVIC WERE TO PUT A STEM WALL UP ON THE EDGE OF HIS DRIVEWAY THERE TO PREVENT THE SHEET FLOW FROM COMING ONTO HIS PROPERTY, HE WOULD HAVE HE WOULD ESSENTIALLY FLOOD VILLAGE OAKS IN MY OWN PROPERTY. RIGHT. LOT ONE. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT I NEVER ALTERED. THE LOT THREE SWALE THAT'S SAME ELEVATION. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN. SO I DIDN'T YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T TOUCH THAT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN MY PROPERTY. ABOUT THREE. AND LET ME JUST ALSO MENTION SOMETHING ELSE TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, I WORKED WITH LOT THREE OWNER AND ROBERT LONG BECAUSE ROBERT LONG IS THE ONE THAT WAS AFFECTED. AND ACTUALLY THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS FROM THAT HOUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, YOU KNOW, SINCE I LIVED THERE SINCE 16, THERE MUST THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THREE OWNERS. AND I SAW THE BASEMENT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONTENTS OF THE BASEMENT OUT ON THE STREET, LIKE 3 OR 4 TIMES BECAUSE THE WHOLE BOTTOM JUST FLOODS. SO WHEN ROBERT LONG MOVED IN, YOU KNOW, HE REDID A WHOLE BOTTOM END AND JUST IMMEDIATELY GOT FLOODED. SO I WORKED WITH HIM AND WHAT I DID WAS I INCREASED MY RETENTION AREA BEHIND, YOU KNOW, ON LOT TWO. AND THAT ACTUALLY CURED THE PROBLEM. AND IT DOESN'T GO INTO ROBERT LONG'S PROPERTY ANYMORE. THE ONLY THING THAT HE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS LOT THREE'S GUTTERS. THEY SHE JUST INSTALLED GUTTERS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT ROBERT LONG'S CONCERNED WITH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE, THE FLOODING, I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I DON'T. I ONLY CAN CONTROL SO MUCH. SO. WELL, WE WANT TO SOLVE THIS, RIGHT. WE WANT TO GET THIS SOLVED TONIGHT. AND LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT ANY. YES, MR. MOORE, THIS STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT THE SWALE WAS NOT FILLED IN. DO WE AGREE WITH THA? NO. OKAY WAS A PERMIT OBTAINED TO FILL THAT SWALE IN? SO A BUILDING PERMIT WAS OBTAINED TO BUILD THE HOUSE THAT HE'S BUILDING. BUT NINE YEARS AGO, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A GOOGLE MAP RIGHT HERE THAT I JUST PULLED UP ON THE INTERNET. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SWALE, YOU CAN SEE THE CURVATURE OF THE FILL.

AND IF YOU GO TO THAT PROPERTY, I WAS THERE TODAY. THIS IS YOUR DRIVEWAY. AND THAT'S THE DIP.

THAT DIP IS GONE. GONE. SO I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THAT WAS THERE RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT. THAT THAT AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL. SO THAT'S ORIGINAL ELEVATION. THAT ORIGINAL ELEVATION GOES TO THOSE PALM TREES RIGHT THERE. AND THEN WHEN I LEAVE THE ELEVATION AND GO TO WHERE THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION IS OF THE HOUSE, THOSE PALM TREES ARE RIGHT HERE BEHIND THE CORNER OF THE NEW HOME. AND AS A RESULT, THAT SWALE CAN NO LONGER GO HERE. AND INSTEAD IT FLOWS DOWN THIS WAY TO THESE OTHER HOMES. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT FLOODING GOES. BUT IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT STREET VIEW, YOU COULD SEE IT WAS THERE AGAIN. I'M NOT I WASN'T PLANNING ON GETTING INTO THIS DEBATE. NO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE DON'T. GO AHEAD. MR. I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. AS MISTER SANKOVICH CALLED FOR ALL THE REQUIRED INSPECTIONS DURING

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THIS NINE YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. YEAH, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD AN ACTIVE I'M SORRY, TO THE CITY MANAGER, MR. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT HE CALLED FOR ALL THE INSPECTIONS. I KNOW THAT STEVE NICOLOSI, THE PRIOR BUILDING INSPECTOR, REVOKED THE PERMIT BACK IN ROUGHLY 19 OR 20. I DON'T ACTUALLY REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC DATE. I, I DO HAVE I THINK IT'S 21 OR 21, THERE WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDING THAT THAT STARTED AS IT RELATED TO IT. I HAD A HISTORY OF IT, THE, A HEARING TOOK PLACE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARING TOOK PLACE AND ROUGHLY, LET ME SEE WHAT THE DATES WERE, I STARTED DEALING. I GOT INVOLVED IN IT IN 22. THE IN FEBRUARY 21ST, HE ENTERED A CODE ENFORCEMENT STIPULATION. REGARDING MULTIPLE CODE MATTERS, THE STIPULATED ORDER AGREED THAT THE WINDOWS WOULD BE COMPLETE. THE ROOF WOULD BE COMPLETE AND INSPECTED IN THE ENTIRE HOUSE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE COMPLETE PRIOR TO JULY OF 21. IN FEBRUARY 22, THE PROPERTY WAS VIOLATED FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE STIPULATED ORDER. IN MARCH OF 22, HEARING THE CITY LEARNED THAT MR. STANKOVIC HAD NEVER SUBDIVIDED THE PARCELS TO CREATE THE LEGAL PARCEL FOR THE SECOND HOME TO BE CONSTRUCTED. PURSUANT TO THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED FOR TWO HOUSES ON ONE LOT UNLESS THE SECOND HOUSE MEETS THE CRITERIA OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THE PERMIT ISSUED TO MR. STANKOVIC EXPIRED, AND THE SECOND HOUSE REMAINS IN DISREPAIR AND UNFINISHED. AFTER BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR SEVEN YEARS.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO CAN I. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? LET HIM FINISH, SIR. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF REGULATION IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE. AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOUR SAFETY THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN REQUIREMENTS AND YOUR FAMILY WHO YOU CHOOSE, BUT IN AN AREA THAT IS SO PRONE TO HURRICANES, YOUR INADEQUATE ROOF FLYING OFF POSES A DANGER TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. YOUR INDIFFERENCE TO THE NECESSITY, THE NECESSARY PRESENCE OF THAT SWALE TO DRAIN THAT COMMUNITY IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE THAT YOU PUT YOUR TRUSSES UP AND THEY WERE UP THERE FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS, UNCOVERED. I CALLED THE TRUST COMPANY TODAY AND I SAID, DOES THAT THREATEN THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE TRUSSES? AND THEY SENT ME TO THIS. IT CANNOT BE ASSUMED THAT A STRUCTURE IS OKAY. AFTER BEING LEFT TO WEATHER FOR A VERY LONG TIME. A BALLPARK NUMBER IS ABOUT A MONTH THAT THEY MAY.

THEY MAY BE LEFT OUT FOR A WEEK MAX AND THEN SHOULD BE COVERED. YOU PROBABLY VOIDED THE WARRANTY ON YOUR TRUSSES. I'M. LET ME FINISH, SIR. I THINK THE CITY HAS A PROBLEM HERE IN THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THIS STRUCTURE AND ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THE STRUCTURE ARE SAFE. AND I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT DEGREE WE HAVE INSPECTED, BUT IF YOUR ROOF TRUSSES, YOU KNOW, WERE UP AND EXPOSED FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME AND THE WARRANTY IS VOIDED, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS A MESS.

THEY THEY THIS IS A MESS. I ALSO HEAR THAT AND I TRIED TO WALK THERE TODAY, BUT I HAD MY DOG AND THE THUNDER STARTED AND HE WAS NOT GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN. BUT THAT ALONG THE SHORELINE. IT'S VERY DETERIORATED BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE MEASURES TO PROTECT THE SHORELINE. YOU MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DEGRADING THE SHORELINE AND POPPLETON CREEK THERE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT MY THAT'S NOT MINE. THAT'S THAT'S THE STATE. I DIDN'T TOUCH THAT.

I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER MCDONALD'S, CONCERN FOR SOME VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS AND DEADLINES HERE. IN LIGHT OF PRIOR BEHAVIOR. AND I DO NOT KNOW THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT AT THIS POINT. CAN I JUST SAY ONE LAST THING? THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT THE TRUSSES WERE UP FOR SIX MONTHS. I PUT THOSE TRUSSES UP, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THAT, PREVIOUS TO THAT, THEY WERE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THEY WERE COVERED THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME. WHEN I PUT THOSE TRUSSES UP, APPARENTLY WENT RIGHT UP IMMEDIATELY. AND I PROBABLY HAVE PICTURES FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, DATED PICTURES FROM THAT. BUT MR. WATERS BE A REPRESENTATIVE AND LET HIM DO THE TALKING.

WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT A DEAL HERE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. SO, SO I'VE GOT THE. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SWALE OF THE DRAINAGE. ALL I KNOW ARE THE DOCUMENTS, THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. AND THE 1990 1995 PLAT OF THIS SUBDIVISION DOES NOT HAVE A

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DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM OUR NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, THERE ARE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT GO KIND OF THAT SPLIT LOT ONE AND LOT TWO DOWN LOT THREE. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON. WHETHER THERE WAS A SWALE, WHETHER THERE WAS A SWALE, AND THEY WERE PERMITTED TO DRAIN OVER THESE LOTS. I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT ALL OF THAT CAN BE REVIEWED AND ANALYZED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE STUCK BECAUSE WE'VE REALIZED THAT WE'VE GOT THIS UNIT OF TILE. WE'RE NOW NOT ABLE TO PULL A NEW BUILDING PERMIT, UPDATE THE EXISTING PERMIT, AND MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE JUST IN THIS KIND OF HIATUS. EITHER WE GET THIS UNIT TO TITLE RELEASED AND WE PULL A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW YOUR INSPECTORS TO GO OUT THERE. THE WHOLE COOPERATION OF A HOLISTIC APPROACH OF HOW THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND DO ALL THOSE REVIEWS, THE ALTERNATIVE IS THIS UNIT TITLE IS NOT RELEASED, AND WE'RE STILL IN THAT SAME POSITION, AND THE TWO UNITS HAVE TO BE COMBINED IN SOME FASHION. SO THIS SIMPLY ADDRESSES A PROBLEM OF WHAT'S NOW BEEN 30 YEARS OF A UNIT OF TITLE THAT COMBINES THREE PARCELS THAT SHOULD NOT BE COMBINED ANYMORE. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.

ALL THAT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH A SEPARATE MEANS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLYING FOR A NEW BUILDING PERMIT, HAVING ALL THOSE INSPECTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE COMPLIES WITH EVERY SINGLE RULE OF THIS, OF THIS CITY. AND IF NOT, YOU'VE GOT CONSEQUENCES IN CODE. BUT FOR STEP ONE FOR US IS TO HAVE THIS UNIT TITLE RELEASED. SO THAT WE CAN START THAT NEXT PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LEAVE HERE WITH THIS SOBS COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. SO AND I UNDERSTAND, BY THE WAY, I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION ON THAT, MR. WATERS, BUT HERE'S THE THING IS, WE RELEASED A UNIT, A TITLE WITHOUT ADDRESSING THESE OTHER ISSUES. WE REALLY DON'T GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE OTHER THAN JUST FINES. AND I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE TIMELINE MEMO AND WHEN OF COURSE, ONE OF THE THINGS IS WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO THE CITY, WHEN ABOUT THE UNITY OF TITLE WHEN THE LOT SPLIT WAS REQUESTED BACK IN I THINK 2015. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS, JUST THERE WAS NEVER A LOT SPLIT REQUESTED. THERE WAS A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR A WAIVER OF SETBACKS, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SAID THAT HE WAS DOING A LOT SPLIT. OKAY AND SO THERE WAS SO THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE DONE IMPROPERLY THERE. AND WE HAVE. BUT WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TIMELINE. SO WE HAVE A STIPULATED ORDER. DON'T GET IT COMPLETED. ANOTHER STIPULATED ORDER OR THAT'S WHY THE AND SO AS WE'RE NOT COMPLETING THESE, TIMELINES, UNLESS WE PUT A, PUT SOME STRICT TIMELINES IN, I MEAN, WITH CONSEQUENCES, I DON'T THINK HE'LL GET IT DONE. AND HIS HISTORY. YEAH, HIS HISTORY HAS BEEN TO NOT GET IT DONE, I'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS, AND I WANT TO HAVE A HAVE SOME TEETH INTO THE AGREEMENT, AND TO THE RESOLUTION THAT SAYS IF HE DOESN'T GET IT DONE, THEN THERE'S A CONSEQUENCES. AND LIKE, I SAID, WE DO HAVE PRECEDENT FOR THIS. WE DID THAT WITH THE SENATE PROPERTY, WHERE WE REQUIRED THE, PROPERTY OWNER TO, TO A STIPULATED ORDER TO, GET A PROPERTY COMPLETED AND UP TO CODE BY A CERTAIN POINT OF TIME. AND IT INVOLVED EVOLVED A LOT. THERE WAS A LOT SPLIT INVOLVED WITH THAT AS WELL. AND THAT HOUSE ENDED UP COMING DOWN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET IT DONE.

AND SO MY EXPERIENCE TELLS ME IS IF WE DON'T PUT THE TEETH INTO IT, THEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. I HAVE PEOPLE COME BACK, THE NEIGHBORS AND COME BACK AND, AND, LET ME KNOW ABOUT IT IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THIS ROUTE AGAIN.

I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST SOMETHING. I ACTUALLY SUGGESTED A TIMELINE, AND THAT WAS ONE YEAR FROM THE ISSUE OF THE PERMIT, THE NEW PERMIT THAT I APPLIED FOR. SO ONCE THE NEW PERMIT IS APPROVED, THEN I HAVE ONE YEAR TO FINISH THE OUTSIDE IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BECAUSE EVEN YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU TO GET THE PERMIT? IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT? WELL I'D LIKE TO PUT IN FOR A PERMIT, LIKE RIGHT AWAY. LIKE I HAVE EVERYTHING I CAN DO. ONE YEAR I WOULD CONSIDER ONE YEAR FROM THE PERMIT, BUT I WANT TO HAVE TO SEE THE PERMIT APPLIED FOR WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND ISSUED, WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THAT PEOPLE APPLY FOR PERMITS, DON'T PROVIDE ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION, AND THEN THEY COMPLAIN THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR PERMIT. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A YEAR FROM TONIGHT JUST. YEAH. AND

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THAT'S I THINK I AGREE WITH THAT I THINK IS PARDON. AND THE STORMWATER. DOES HE HAVE TO HAVE THE REMEDIES THAT WE HAVE TO REMEDY SOME OF THE PROBLEMS HE'S CREATED. AND HE HAS TO ADDRESS THE STORMWATER AS WELL. YES WITHIN THAT ONE YEAR I WOULD SAY MORE QUICKLY THAN THAT. BUT I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE. I MEAN, I HAD ALL THE ENGINEERING EVERY THAT WHOLE SITE PLAN WAS THE CORRECT ELEVATION, EVEN WITH THE, THE WHOLE ENTIRE THING, BECAUSE WE HAVE A STORMWATER ORDINANCE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES NOW. SO THE DISTINCTION IS THAT OUR STORMWATER FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES REQUIRES YOU TO RETAIN YOUR STORMWATER ON SITE.

RIGHT? I AM 100% SURE THE STORMWATER FROM VILLAGE OAKS IS GOING TO SHEET FLOW ACROSS THAT DRIVEWAY. AND THROUGH THAT POINT WHERE THE SWALE USED TO BE, IT'S GOING TO SHIFT BACK TO MR. LONG'S PROPERTY AND FLOOD THE CLOSED IN PORTIONS OF HIS PROPERTY. UNLESS THERE'S A STORMWATER PIPE PUT IN THAT CAN CAPTURE THAT CHEAP FLOWING WATER AND HAVE IT READY IN TO THE CREEK, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE ALREADY THERE. YOU GOT A PERMIT AND BUILD A STORMWATER? I DIDN'T PUT IT IN. IT'S ON ROBERT LONG'S PROPERTY. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT STORMWATER. SO WHAT DO WE WANT HIM TO DO? YEAH. HAVING JUST GONE THROUGH THIS MYSELF FOR A LITTLE ADU ON MY PROPERTY. YEAH, I MEAN, THAT RETENTION OF STORMWATER WAS A YOU KNOW, A COMPLICATED CALCULATION. AND THIS PARTICULAR, THIS PARTICULAR MATTER COULD BE EASILY RESOLVED BY JUST AGREEING TO PUT SOME KIND OF GRATE AT THE EDGE OF HIS PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN HIS PROPERTY AND VILLAGE OAKS THAT CAPTURES THAT WATER AND RUNS IT THROUGH A STORMWATER RIGHT ACROSS THAT GRASS AREA. I SHOWED IN THE PICTURE AND LET IT BUBBLE UP RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE MANGROVES, RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE OF POPPLETON CREEK. THE STORMWATER WOULD END UP IN THE SAME PLACE THAT IT'S BEEN DIRECTED TO GO. THE WHOLE TIME. IT'S IT WOULDN'T BE SIGNIFICANTLY EXPENSIVE. IT'S ALREADY THERE ON NOT ON MY PROPERTY, BUT IT'S ON LOT THREE.

NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE ON YOUR PERSONAL. YEAH. YOU NEED TO PUT ONE IN. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS AS WELL. WELL I DON'T KNOW. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LINE THREE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THERE OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY WENT IN AND PUT IT IN, BUT IT'S JUST TO CAPTURE THE WATER COMING OFF OF VILLAGE OAKS AND DIRECTING IT SOMEWHERE. I RIGHT, I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK, IF THERE IS A STORMWATER CONTROL ISSUE AS OPPOSED TO FORCING IT TO BE PLACED ON LOT TWO. IF IT'S ALREADY ON LOT THREE, AND MAYBE THAT'S SUFFICIENT WITH SOME OTHER CLEANUP TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. SOMETHING TO SATISFY THAT ISSUE. RIGHT? RIGHT. I'LL BE SATISFIED THAT THAT WAS THAT IT'S RESOLVED TO THE SATISFACTION OF OUR ENGINEER AND BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND I DO WANT TO PUT IN A, ONE YEAR FROM TODAY AND I AND THEN A BOND FOR DEMO.

YEAH, I THINK I'D ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BECAUSE THE IDEA WITH THE ONE YEAR FROM CONSTRUCTION IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME CLEANUP AND SOME, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. I THINK THE WE'D LIKE TO I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN APPLY WITH 30 DAYS. YEAH. I MEAN WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND THEN I SO FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I DON'T THINK THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR ANYBODY IN THE CITY WAS EVER LOOKING FOR A COMPLETED SEO. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT CLOSING IN THE HOUSE. LIKE IF NONE OF THE BEDROOMS INSIDE ARE FINISHED. YEAH. WHAT THE. I'M OKAY WITH IT. JUST SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT IT'S FINISHED, NOT THE ACTUAL FINISHED OUT INSIDE. IT'S BEEN A TAR PAPER ROOF FOR MONTHS. YEAH. SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE COMPLETED.

STORMWATER. STORMWATER DONE. WE NEED TO HAVE A SO I'LL GIVE YOU I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'LL GIVE YOU 30 DAYS TO GET YOUR PERMIT AND 12 MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE TO COMPLETE THAT WORK. AND A BOND FOR SAY WHAT, 20. YEAH. $25,000 BOND FOR DEMO AS PART OF OUR INSPECTION. AND WITHIN THIS PROCESS ALSO LOOK AT THE TRUSSES IN THE ROOF. IS THAT SOMETHING I THINK I THINK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL DO THAT REGARDLESS. YEAH. THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE A CONCERN WITH IS THE 30 DAYS TO GET THE PERMIT, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A STORMWATER DESIGN WE'RE GOING TO GET OUTSIDE OF THAT. YEAH. NO, I THINK IT'D BE 30 DAYS TO APPLY. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S THE HICCUP TOO, IS BECAUSE ONCE WE GET INTO IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STORMWATER ISSUE AND HOW TO RETROFIT IT TO ADDRESS WHATEVER NEEDS THEY HAVE. BUT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN OF IF SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS ON THE STORMWATER AND YOU COME BACK TO US, I WILL BE OPEN TO LISTEN TO THAT PROBLEM. IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO SEE REAL AND SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS. AND WE BUT YOU BUT IF BUT IF THERE'S A IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET INTO INTO SOME ENGINEERING ISSUE, THEN YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR. AGREED

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YEAH. I MEAN, I HATED THAT IT WAS WITHOUT SINGLE, YOU KNOW, STOP BORDER. I CAN'T PUT SHINGLES ON IT PROBLEM. SO I'M GOING TO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS CONDITION REVISED. AND THE CONDITION IS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT, 12 MONTHS FROM THE 12 MONTH AND AN ADDITIONAL 12 MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. HE LANDSCAPING AND STORMWATER THE. AND THAT IF IT IS NOT COMPLETE, THEN AT THE CITY COMMISSION'S DISCRETION, WE CAN DEMO THE PROPERTY AND YOU'LL PROVIDE A $25,000 BOND FOR DEMO. WHAT HAPPENS ON DAY 31 IF HE HASN'T GOT HIS PERMIT IN AND HE'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE? WELL HE HAS TO APPLY. HE HAS TO APPLY FOR IT. AND IF HE HASN'T APPLIED ON DAY 31, THE UNITY OF TITLE IS CONDITIONED UPON HIM APPLYING FOR THE, THE PERMIT. SO IN THE EVENT THAT IT DIDN'T, IF A CONDITION PRECEDENT DIDN'T OCCUR, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE RESCISSION OF THE UNITY OF TITLE. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIAL FINES THAT HE'S CURRENTLY FACING? THAT'S NOT FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER AVENUE FOR THAT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE BEFORE WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE BIASES. IS THERE A TIME I'M SORRY, IS THERE A TIME FRAME FROM YOU KNOW, IF I SAY I'M GOING TO DO IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT FROM THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MIGHT PUT IT IN, I THINK HE HAS TO SUCCESSFULLY APPLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED IN IT. RIGHT SO HE HAS TO SUCCESSFULLY APPLY. YOU JUST CAN'T SUBMIT AN INADEQUATE EYE AND GO, OH, IT'S NOT MY FAULT. YEAH. IF YOU'RE I GUESS AND THERE'S A DELAY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE, YOU CAN COME BACK TO US, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE LEGIT AND NOT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE MEMO OVER AND OVER AGAIN SO I DON'T WANT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO AVOID. CLOUDY.

THIS WAS FLOODING. AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND, MR. WATERS, I'M GOING TO ASK THE LADY TO COME UP. YOU ALL CAN SIT DOWN, I HAVE, I HAVE THE TROY MCDONALD MADE THE MOTION. WHO MADE THE SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS. YEAH, MISS MISS TAYLOR, BARBARA TAYLOR. I LIVE AT 320 SOUTH-WEST INDIAN GROVE DRIVE. JUST, BEHIND MR. STANKEVICIUS PROPERTY. AND, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR MANY YEARS NOW. IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS IN THE MAKING, AND, IT RAINS A LOT OF IT ON ON ME.

BARBARA TAYLOR. IT'S WRITTEN ON HERE. I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE FOR THREE YEARS, SO WE HAVE EIGHT MAGISTRATE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TO, EIGHT MINUTES THAT WE'VE BEEN TO ALL ON. MR. STANKOVIC'S PROMISES THAT HE'S GOING TO DO THIS. SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR? ANOTHER YEAR, WHICH EACH TIME HE GETS TO A CERTAIN POINT, HE HAS SOMETHING TO BLAME IT ON.

WHETHER IT'S COVID, WHETHER IT'S ME, WHETHER IT'S HIS DAD PASSING AWAY FOR WHATEVER REASON, HE COMES UP WITH, WITH SOMETHING THAT HE HE CAN'T COMPLETE THIS JOB. SO NOW ALL OF US THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS HOME AND THOSE TRUSSES WERE UNCOVERED UP THERE, I DID LIVE THERE. AND THEY WERE NOT COVERED WITH ANYTHING. AND NOW THAT THE BLACK STUFF THAT IS ON TOP OF IT, THE TAR PAPER IS ALSO ALL PEELING OFF THE GROUNDS AROUND THE HOUSE ARE ALL CAVING IN, SUPPOSEDLY FROM THE DRAIN WATER. THAT'S NOT. SUPPOSEDLY THIS IS WHERE HE LIVES IN A FLOOD ZONE. IF FEMA MAJOR FLOOD ZONE. THIS IS WHERE THE MR. THE GENTLEMAN WHOSE HOMES FLOODED A NUMBER OF TIMES.

HE LIVES IN A MAJOR FLOOD ZONE, MAJOR FLOOD ZONE. HIS HOUSE HAS BEEN DOING GOING UNDER WATER FOR LONG BEFORE MR. STANKOVIC EVER PUT HIS HOUSE ON THAT. SO IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT. IT'S JUST MOTHER NATURE. THAT'S WHAT SHE DID. SHE PUT A MAJOR FEMA FLOOD ZONE THERE FOR MAYBE WHEN THE CITY OF STUART MADE THAT ROUNDABOUT THEMSELVES OF THAT WATER, BECAUSE THEY DID ADD THAT SO THAT WE'D HAVE A FLOW OF BOLTON CREEK. THOSE TRUSSES ARE ON THERE WITH NO HURRICANE TIES FOR ALL OF US. THE WINDOWS ARE WIDE OPEN. THERE'S TRASH BAGS ON THEM. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND I'VE PURCHASED A HOME WITH MY HARD EARNED MONEY, AND I'VE LIVED THERE, AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE HAD TO LOOK AT. AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT FAIR TO ANY OF US AROUND THERE. NOW HE'S GOING TO GET ANOTHER YEAR AND

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NOW WE KEEP GIVING HIM MORE. NOW ANOTHER MONTH, AND THEN AFTER THAT, ANOTHER YEAR. AND HOW LONG DOES IT GO ON FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT? WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT EXCUSE THAT WE CAN'T GET IT FINISHED. AND SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE I SEE EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE. AND PART OF IT'S THE CITY'S PROBLEM. YOU ALL HAVE PASSED SO MANY THINGS ALONG THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET THE APPROVAL FOR THIS, OR SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET THE APPROVAL FOR THAT, OR MR. MEYER GAVE THEM ALL OF THIS STUFF WITHOUT ASKING ANYBODY. MR. MEYER, ALSO, MISS TAYLOR, WE DO WANT TO GET THIS SOLVED. AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T WANT IT TO GO ON ANY LONGER, AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SUFFER ANYMORE. SO HOPEFULLY THIS MAN GETS ONE MORE CHANCE OR THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, EXCEPT IT'S OUR INTENTION TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. AND WITH THIS DIRECTION, IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT. AND THERE'S CONSEQUENCES TO THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. WATERS. OKAY. YES ALWAYS FOR HELEN. YOUR SPOUSE A PERMANENT. THANK YOU, HELEN MCBRIDE AVENUE. SITTING HERE LISTENING. NOW, YOU KNOW, I BUILT MY BOB AND I, WE BUILT THE HOUSE 51 YEARS AGO. I JUST HAD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION WORK. OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS COME RIGHT AWAY. THEY'RE GREAT. AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND. LIKE, AS THAT WOMAN SAID, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. REMEMBER, THERE WAS ONE OVER BY THE RIVER THAT WAS A SHACK. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TOO LONG. I MEAN, IF I HAD TO LIVE IN MY HOUSE AND LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AND SEE IT, YOU'RE BEING WAY TOO GENEROUS. IF SHE HADN'T STOOD HERE AND TOLD ALL OF THEM, YOU KEEP GIVING THEM BREAKS AND GIVING THEM BREAKS AND HE'S NOT DOING IT. WE BUILT THE HOUSE ON FLAMINGO AVENUE IN AUGUST, AND WE MOVED IN THAT FEBRUARY, SO IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE JUST HAD DONE A ROOF AND AIR CONDITION IMPACT WINDOWS WAS ONLY THREE MONTHS, AND A LOT OF THE MATERIAL HAD WAS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ORDER IT, IT DOESN'T COME IN RIGHT AWAY. NO. YOU'RE BEING WAY TOO LENIENT.

THINK OF NOT JUST THIS WOMAN OF ALL OF US IN THE CITY OF STEWART. DO WE WANT THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR INSPECTORS IN THE IN THE CITY ARE GREAT. I MEAN, THE CONSTRUCTION DID SOMETHING. IT GOT DENIED. AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME FROM THE INSPECTION OFFICE AND HE SAID, I'M SORRY. I SAID, NO, YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR INSPECTORS DO. THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB THAT I REALLY AM. YOU FIVE HAVE GOT TO HAVE BETTER BACKBONES AND SAY, NO, WE THE PEOPLE CAN'T. YOU'RE HE'S HAD ALL THESE BREAKS. I MEAN, NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THEM THE MONEY TO FIX IT. LET'S THINK OF EVERY ONE OF US. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AROUND TIGHTENING UP THE TIME FRAME OR ANY AMENDING TO THAT MOTION? OR AGAIN, OR WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT A YEAR. IT'S A YEAR. IT WAS ALREADY A MOTION ON IT. I THINK I WANTED TO AMEND THAT AND TIGHTEN THAT UP OR. NO, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE CONDITION OF TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT REASONABLE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT THREE MONTHS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WITHSTANDING A COURT CHALLENGE. SO. SO THE ONLY I MEAN, THE PERMIT IS THE ONLY INTERMEDIATE TIMELINE. SO AFTER THAT, UNTIL THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR CLARITY. IS IT IS IT HERE IS CURRENTLY A CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE ORDER WITH A FINE RUNNING AT $250 A DAY. SO EVERY DAY THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE IT FINISHED AT $250, FINE RUNS THAT I'M SURE WHEN IT'S COMPLIED, HE'S GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD AND ASK YOU GUYS FOR SOME FORGIVENESS ON THAT. FINE.

IF HE IS LACKADAISICAL ABOUT IT AND IGNORES YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT, I DOUBT YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE REDUCTION OF THAT. FINE. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO HEAR THAT ISSUE.

SO THERE IS A SWORD HIDDEN IN THERE BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO I MEAN, $250 A DAY. IT'S ALREADY WELL OVER $100,000 AND IT'S CLOSE TO 200. IS IT? IT'S ACTUALLY AT A JUST SHY OF TWO.

IT'S LIKE 228 RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S CURRENTLY ON HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. BUT AFTER THE SPLIT, IT WON'T BE ON HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. SO THE CITY WOULD DONALD SUGGESTED A STRATEGY THAT

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COULD CIRCUMVENT THAT. UNFORTUNATELY IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WE'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE TO IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO RECORD THE HOMESTEAD BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE TO HOMESTEAD IT. AND IF THE HOUSE NEVER GOT A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, I DOUBT THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT AS WHERE YOU LIVED. SO I THINK MR. MARTELL IS A OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, PROVIDES A SOLUTION IN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY LITTLE LENIENCY REGARDING THAT ONGOING. FINE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROLL ROLL CALL. OKAY VICE MAYOR RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER COLLINS. YES. COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. YES.

MAYOR. BRUNER. YES THIS MEETING IS

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