Aug 26, 2024 Regular City Commission Meeting

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FIND. QUIET, PLEASE. QUIET, PLEASE. CAN WE CLOSE THOSE DOOR? THANK YOU. STERN WORKS. MADAM

[ROLL CALL]

[1. OATH OF OFFICE - LAURA GIOBBI, GROUP II AND SEAN REED, GROUP IV]

DID SHE TAKE PICTURES WITH HER FRIENDS? MY UNDERSTANDING PICTURE TIME HAS BEEN. ARE WE GOING TO DO THEM BOTH? ALL RIGHT. OKAY HEY, COMMISSIONER. SEAN REED, IT'S YOUR TURN.

YOU'RE ALREADY STANDING WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL RIGHT, IT'S READY. I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, HONOR, PROTECT AND DEFEND. THAT I WILL SUPPORT, HONOR, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT. THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE. THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF STUART, AND UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF STUART. AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE

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THANK YOU. GO DOWN THERE, TAKE PICTURES, GIVE ME A HANDSHAKE. YOU DON'T WANT ME. IF YOU WANT TO WALK DOWN THE AISLE AND GET A NICE PICTURE HERE. OH COME ON, MOM, THEY BROUGHT THEM ALL OUT. MIGHT AS WELL DO IT. YEAH. COME ON. MOM HEY. WHAT'S UP? WHAT DO YOU WANT? TO PUT YOUR ARM OUT LIKE YOUR GRANDMA'S HERE OR SOMETHING? SEAN, YOU WANT TO HOLD YOUR ARM LIKE THIS FOR YOUR GRANDMA? YOU CAN POST HER IN LATER LIKE SHE. READY ONE, TWO.

THREE. SHE'S BEEN. SHE'S BEEN GREAT. FOR SEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S ACTUALLY FUN. SEAN HOLD YOUR FLOWERS. SEAN. WITH YOUR MOM. HOLD YOUR FLOWERS WITH YOUR MOM. ONE MORE. DO IT. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. YEAH. WHERE'S JIM? JIM? JIM, DID YOU LEAVE? I GOT IT, COME ON. COME BACK OUT.

JIM! ONE MORE. JIM ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT. TO BREAK. ONE. GREAT.

I DO THIS. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. ONE, TWO. THREE. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TODAY AND SHARING THIS WITH SEAN AND I. AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS AND THE VOTERS IN THE CITY OF STUART ON IT. WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE, GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. ALSO, AMY VARGAS IS HERE. NOW, IF WE COMMISSIONER ELECT, COMMISSIONER ELECT, SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS NOW AND

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

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THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CONFIDENCE. COMMISSIONER REED. SO TONIGHT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR NEWLY ELECTED COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRESENCE OF COMMISSIONER ELECT FOR MARTIN COUNTY. AND THAT IS EILEEN VARGAS HAS JOINED US THIS EVENING. CONGRATULATIONS ON THI. COMMISSIONER CLARK, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THIS EVENING? YES, SINCE WE'RE RECOGNIZING, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR FORMER MAYOR, WHOSE SEAT YOU'RE TAKING RIGHT NOW AS INTERIM AND AS THE VICE MAYOR. BECKY BRUNER, CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR TIME.

THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH OUR CITY COMMISSION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHATEVER YOU DI. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID. YOU KNOW THE MILES AND THE SHOES. FOUR PAIRS OF SHOES. SEAN. YEAH FOUR PAIRS, BY THE WAY. YEAH SO IT'S JUST THIS IS A SMALL TOWN, AND, MARTIN COUNTY IS ALWAYS THERE. MARTIN COUNTY IS BIGGER THAN WE ARE, BUT WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP STUART VIBRANT. NOT OVERDEVELOPED, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK AND WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY OF STUART STAYS REALLY VIBRANT. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT AND YOUR INPUT IS GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF THAT. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE JUST APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO SERVE SO MANY PEOPLE CRITICIZED WHEN YOU SERVE AND YOU YOU'LL GET SOME OF THAT TOO.

BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND, COMMISSIONER ELECT VARGAS, THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOUR FIRST UNOFFICIAL OFFICIAL TRIP RIGHT HERE TO THE CITY OF STUART. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK WE DON'T HAVE, A BIG AGENDA, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT AGENDA, AND I JUST. I THINK COMMISSIONER SEAN REED SAID IT BEST, IN INVOLVEMENT IS IMPORTANT. AND SO WE'LL SEE.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND THEY'RE HERE TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS AND TO BE INVOLVED WITH WHATEVER THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN MAKING THE DECISION MAKING ON. SO WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY THAT EVERYBODY IS HERE TONIGHT TO PARTICIPATE WITH US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLLINS.

YES. SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, IT WAS INTERESTING TO WATCH YOU TWO FROM AFAR AND HEAR FROM OTHERS THAT YOU KNOCKED ON THEIR DOOR AND JUST HOW BUSY YOU BOTH WERE, I'M SURE WITH A TIRED KNEE. AND IT JUST IT REALLY SPEAKS TO WHEN YOU REACH SOMEBODY'S DOOR. IT SHOWS HOW DRIVEN YOU ARE TO DO A GOOD JOB AND HOW MUCH YOU CARE. AND THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF POLITICAL ADVERTISING THAT CAN TOUCH THAT. AND THE CITY IS UNIQUE IN THAT WE HAVE JUST ENOUGH TIME TO REACH THOSE DOORS, PERSONALLY, AND EXTEND OUR HAND. AND I AM THANKFUL FOR BOTH OF YOU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE INCREDIBLY UNIQUE INSIGHT FROM , YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER BASE, MARKETING AND DATA LIKE YOU HAVE TOUCHED. EACH ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR INPUT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHATEVER WE'LL TALK ABOUT THROUGH THE LENS OF HOW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND VOTE FEEL. SO VERY THANKFUL FOR YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. YES, ALSO, COMMISSIONER ELECT VARGAS, WHAT AN HONOR. ABSOLUTELY I HAD A FEW POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE, AND THE MAIN ONE WAS THAT CITY AND COUNTY VOTERS, THE ELECTORATE

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YES, I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU SAID THAT. I WOULD SAY THE SCOPE WOULD BE BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, BECAUSE IF IT HAS ANY MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT, OKAY. BUT WHEN YOU SAID DUANY, THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL AS WELL. SO I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL WITHIN COMMERCIAL ZONING, THERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, BUT IF JUST ANYTHING THAT INCLUDES A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OR IS IT ALL COMMERCIAL, BASICALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY, OKAY, THAT THAT'S CLARIFIED, SO THAT WOULD BE FIRST THING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR A MOTION FOR. IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? WELL,

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LAST TIME WE HAD THE ZONING IT WAS A SIX MONTH THING. WELL WE'LL WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE AGENDA. I WOULD NEED A YOU WOULD NEED A VOTE. BUT AFTER TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE WAYLAID HERE WITH OUR. WELL, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? MISS MCBRIDE? I THINK KELLY MCBRIDE. FLAMINGO AVENUE. I THINK IT'S THE GRAND IDEA THAT OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS IN. I KNOW I'M LISTENING TO A LOT OF PEOPL.

WE WANT TO WE WANT TO KEEP OUR HOMETOWN LIKE OUR HOMETOWN, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS WHOLE THING. I WAS HERE BACK IN THE DAYS. I MEAN, WE WERE A GHOST TOWN, AND THERE'S 3000, MAYBE 4000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF STEWART. BUT LIKE, EVEN WITH MY NEIGHBORS SITTING NEXT TO ME IN THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER THING ON THE AGENDA. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO STOP AND JUST TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK AND A DEEP BREATH AND RELOOK AT EVERYTHING. SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. HELEN, YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A GREEN CARD PLEASE.

THAT ITEM. YEAH. MAYOR RICH, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS ON THESE CARDS? SEAN WANTS TO ADDRESS MARRIAGE. OKAY. YEAH OKAY. COMMISSIONER REID. YES I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING AS WELL, BUT FOR ANOTHER. WELL, YOU'VE HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT, S. NO, THIS IS FOR AN ADDRESS TO SOMETHING ELSE. CORRECT. NOW WE'RE TAKING A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S FOCUS. NO NO, THIS I'M WAITING TO SEE IF THIS WOMAN WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE. YOU CAN SPEAK. YOU CAN YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AFTERWARDS. PULL IT OUT LATER. YEAH BECAUSE I GOT ONE MORE THING TO SAY. IT'S A MOTOR HERE. HI. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA LUCAS, AND I KNOW ALL ABOUT ANDRE DUHANEY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE 750 WHICH WE DEFEATED IN MARTIN COUNTY. ANDRE DELANEY IS UP IN VERO NOW, TRYING TO RUIN THAT TOWN, I'M NOT A FAN OF HIS. I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EARTH CHARTER, WHICH IS ON YOUR WEBSITE, I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLE. THAT COMES FROM THE UN, THE UN, EVERYBODY SHOULD GO AND LOOK ON THE WEBSITE, WE HAVE A TOWN HERE, A LITTLE TOWN. I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. WHAT HAPPENED? SO I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT WHERE IT CAME AND CHRIS IS RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND GO BACK FOR THE ONES THAT DIDN'T WIN. BUT WE'RE MOVING IN A NEW DIRECTION AND I'M SO PROUD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND GOD BLESS. WE'LL CALL THE ROLL NO, NO. ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CLARK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER? I CAN VOTE YES YOU DO. I DIDN'T RUN. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, I THINK COMMISSIONER COLLINS SELLING US A LITTLE SHORT, BECAUSE TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN WE PUT THE ZIP

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HALT SO I DON'T IT SEEMS REDUNDANT, BUT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION THEN SO BE IT. I THINK REMOVING THE DUANY OVERLAY IS A SEPARATE ISSUE. AND I WOULD JUST, MR. MARTEL, IF WE COULD, IF THOSE COULD BE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES OR THE ZONING, THE PROGRESS WILL COME INTO PLAY. AND THEN DURING IT, THERE'LL BE A 90 DAY TIME WHEN WE HAVE WORKSHOPS AND DISCUSSIONS. AND SO YOU GUYS WILL BE ADDRESSING CODES AND TO SAY YOU'RE REMOVING THE DUANY OVERLAY, YOU'LL BE EFFECTIVELY ADOPTING WHATEVER CODE YOU WANT, ANY CODE YOU ADOPT EFFECTIVELY CHANGES THE DUANY OVERLAY ANYWA. SO IT'S NOT REALLY THE DUANY OVERLAY AS A CODE RIGHT NOW. AND IT JUST WILL DEPEND ON WHAT YOU GUYS DO AS YOU GO FORWARD. BUT YEAH, AS SOMEONE WHO MOVED HERE WITH MY FAMILY AND 1980 AND DOWNTOWN WAS COMPLETELY DEAD, I MEAN, NOBODY WENT DOWNTOWN FOR ANY REASON. AND TO NOW SEE THE CONSIDERABLE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD IN THE ENVY, WELL, WE'RE THE BEST SMALL COASTAL TOWN IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHAT WE HAVE. OH, YEAH, WE SHOULD JUST THINK.

CAREFUL CAREFULLY ABOUT MAKING CHANGES THAT MAY THREATEN THAT THIS MOTION IS NOT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND, OKAY, I CAN SAY ONE MORE THING. SURE FROM, YOU KNOW, ME PERSONALLY, THE MAJOR CONCERN IS THAT SORT OF THIS URBAN CORE TYPE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU SEE SO MUCH DENSITY HAS NOW SPRAWLED OUT ONTO US. ONE AND CANTER IS KIND OF THE MAIN RATIONALE FOR WHAT I'M SAYING. IF TO GIVE CONTEXT, IF YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS ALL, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER REED? YES, COMMISSIONER. COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. JOB YES. VICE MAYOR. RICH. YES AND SECOND COMMENT. OKAY IT IS BRIGHT LINES. SO THIS WILL BE A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE, I'M SURE, I HAD REQUESTED LAST MEETING NOT TO GET TOO PERSONAL, BUT MY DAD WAS ACTUALLY IN THE ICU. THAT DAY, AND I HAD ASKED IF WE COULD POSTPONE THE VOTE DISCUSSION AND VOTE FOR BRIGHT LINE BECAUSE HE WAS GOING INTO SURGERY AT NORTH AND I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE INPUT ON THAT MEETING, AND I WAS QUITE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE COULDN'T WAIT ONE MORE MEETING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE BRIGHT LINE IS A REALLY BIG DEAL AND WILL AFFECT THIS TOWN FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO MY HOPE WAS THAT WE COULD HAVE ALL OF US HERE TO HASH IT OUT AND TRY TO HAVE THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE PUTTING THEM ON THE HOOK FOR THE TAB. BUT THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON, AND NOTHING'S AN ACCIDENT. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, AT THIS POINT IN REVIEWING THIS BRIGHT LINE IS A TERRIBLE DEAL FOR TAXPAYERS. IT IS A DEAL THAT HAS CHANGED. AND IT WENT FROM THE COUNTY PAYING, YOU KNOW, 15 MILLION, HALF THE STATION AND BRIGHT LINE PAYING FOR ITS HALF OF THE STATION TO NOW THE CITY HAS TAKEN THE OTHER HALF OF THE STATION WITH THE COUNTY, AND BRIGHT LINE IS OFF THE HOOK. AND SO, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, AND NOT JUST MYSELF, AND TALKING TO MANY RESIDENTS THAT DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO VOICE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO THEM THAT A PRIVATE COMPANY WOULD GET BASICALLY A FREE LAND LEASE OF TAXPAYER LAND AND A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT HAS BILLIONS IN BONDING SHOULD HAVE THIS LITTLE TOWN FUND. IT'S 30, 40, $50 MILLION STATION. IT IT'S CRAZY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE RIGHT NOW. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION. AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I AM FULLY AWARE AND I'M GOING TO QUOTE THIS BECAUSE IT'S FROM OUR COMP PLAN THAT THE CITY SHALL CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THE

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MY PERCEPTION OF THAT IN THE COMP PLAN IS IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ALTERATIONS AND SETBACKS, OR MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE FOR THEM, WE SHOULD, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THAT WE SHOULD BE GIVING UP OUR LAND AND BEING ON THE HOOK FOR 30 AND 45 MILLION. BECAUSE REMEMBER, CITY TAXPAYERS ARE ALSO COUNTY TAXPAYERS. SO WE ARE PAYING TWICE, RIGHT? YES SO AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A BAD DEAL, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ANY OF US, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD BE TRYING TO AMEND BECAUSE THIS IS AN INTERNAL, STAFF. THIS IS THIS IS BETWEEN THE STAFF AND THE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ON THE FLY ON THE DAIS TRYING TO AMEND THE AGREEMENTS THAT CAME FORTH LAST TIME. SO I WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE BOX. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO RESCIND THE PREVIOUS TWO AGREEMENTS THAT WE ENTERED INTO LAST TIME.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 41, 2024. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN AN AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY. AND ALSO, I GUESS A THIRD WOULD BE RESCINDING THE PREVIOUS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BECAUSE THAT WAS AN UPDATED ONE. AND RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 52 2024 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER A LONG TERM LEASE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BRIGHTLINE TRAINS, LLC. AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE NOTIFYING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THEIR AGENDA TOMORROW, BUT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, OR IF IT'S THE NEXT MEETING, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS STILL BEING HASHED OUT BY THE CITY AND THAT WHATEVER THEY VOTE ON IS NOT FORMALIZED.

IF WE POTENTIALLY VOTE, IT DOWN TO TERMINATE IT. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ALONG THOSE LINES IF THERE'S A SECOND. FOR CLARITY, THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T RESCIND IT TODAY. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT. AND NEXT MEETING WE WOULD HAVE A RESCISSION VOTE, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. YEP OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT IF THERE'S A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION BEFORE WE DO THAT. CAN I COMMISSIONER OR MAYOR RICH, CAN I PROVIDE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COLLINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOB? BUT SEAN HAD ALREADY ASKED FOR. CAN I PROVIDE COMMENT? COMMISSIONER REED, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, SO IN MY RESEARCH IN THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER, THERE WAS THREE OPTIONS.

OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE AUGUST 12TH WHEN YOU GUYS VOTED. I WAS CAMPAIGNING, BUT THERE IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, AND THAT WOULD COME FROM MAYOR RICH OR COMMISSIONER CLARK, SO THEN I WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT, COMMISSIONER JOB, COMMISSIONER COLLINS, ALL OF US WILL BE ABLE TO PARTAKE IN IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR CURRENTLY, BUT A RECONSIDERATION WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY ONE OF YOU, AND THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN I AM, RIGHT. YEAH, BUT I'M RULING THIS MOTION OUT OF ORDER. OKAY BUT YES, BUT IF WE CHOSE TO RESCIND, IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY DONE FOR, A NEW AGREEMENT COULD COME AND A NEW AGREEMENT COULD COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD, OR WE COULD DO A RECONSIDERATION. AND IT COME BACK IN ORDER TO DO A RECONSIDERATION. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE. OKAY. THE MOTION HAS BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER, SO WE WON'T HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS, RIGHT? AND CERTAINLY IN A GENTLER TONE. THANK YOU. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE WILLING TO RECONSIDER. YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL AFTER WE VOTE ON THIS MOTION. OKAY THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY? NO, NO, THERE'S NO MOTION. THERE WAS A MOTION. AND A SECOND. THERE'S. YEAH, THERE'S A MOTION. MOTION TO RESCIND IS ON THE FLOOR. AND THERE WAS A SECOND. SO THAT MOTION HAS GOT TO BE DISPOSED OF BEFORE YOU CONSIDER ANOTHER MOTION IS OUT OF ORDER. HE CAN'T MAKE THAT MOTION BECAUSE HE WASN'T AT THE MEETING. HE DIDN'T VOTE IN FAVOR. WELL, I CAN I CAN CLARIFY THAT. OKAY. SO AND MAYBE SO THERE'S THREE OPTIONS. THE BOARD HAS TO RECONSIDER A PRIOR COURSE OF ACTION. THERE WOULD BE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, WHICH IS WHAT COMMISSIONER REED HAD MENTIONED, AND A MOTION TO RESCIND. COMMISSIONER COLLINS, THERE IS A THIRD OPTION. IT'S A MOTION TO AMEND SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED AND A MOTION TO AMEND. WELL, FIRST OFF, A MOTION TO RECONSIDER HAS TO BE DONE BY A COMMISSIONER WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS LAST MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER REED IS CORRECT. IT CAN ONLY BE DONE

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AND IF WE WAIT TO DO THAT AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION IS TO BE HEARD RIGHT NOW. OPENING COMMENT COMMISSIONER CLARK, THIS MOTION, THERE IS SO MUCH MISINFORMATION OUT IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOCA STA, I BELIEVE 98% OF THOSE COSTS WERE COVERED BY GRANTS. THE AVENTURA STATION, I BELIEVE 92% OF THOSE COSTS WERE COVERED BY GRANTS. SO TO SAY THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR 30, $40 MILLION DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY OF WHAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN. OF COURSE, WE CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL RECEIVE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK RIGHT, EXCUSE ME, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUCCESS THAT BRIGHTLINE HAS HAD WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES, IT WOULD LEAD ONE TO BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DEAL WITH THE COUNTY IS BECAUSE THIS MATTER IS BEFORE THEM TOMORROW. SO AT

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NOW, IF THE COUNTY REJECTS THIS DEAL, BY THE WAY, THE BECAUSE OF THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, THE LEASE HAS BEEN SIGNED WITH BRIGHTLINE BECAUSE THE COMMISSION INSTRUCTED THE COMMISSION TO DO THAT. BUT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO FALL BACK ON THEIR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH BRIGHTLINE, WHICH DOES REQUIRE THEM TO PAY QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IN TWO WEEKS TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. AND IN DETAIL AND WITH CORRECT INFORMATION, JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AFTER THE ISSUES CONCERNING WATER QUALITY, I HAVE ENCOUNTERED NO ISSUE THAT HAS ENJOYED SO MUCH SUPPORT AS HAVING A BRIGHT LINE STATION IN THE CITY OF STUART. COMMISSIONER RICH, CAN I ADD MORE COMMENT? I DON'T THINK HE HEARD YOU, COMMISSIONER. EXCUSE ME COMMISSIONER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER COMMENT? YEAH, OKA, SO I ACTUALLY DID A FOIA REQUEST ON THE CITY OF BOCA, AND IT WAS 11.5 MILLION FOR THE PARKING GARAGE. AND I BELIEVE THE CITY GOT A GRANT FOR A MILLION AND A HALF AND BESIDES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE TALK ABOUT A BUSINESS BEING SUCCESSFUL, YOU WOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR $45 MILLION PLUS OF TAXPAYER MONEY IF YOU'RE THAT SUCCESSFUL. OKAY, MR. BAGGETT, WHERE ARE WE? PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A LITTLE GREEN CARD, PLEASE.

I WILL HAPPILY FILL OUT. THESE WERE MY COMMENTS FOR THE COUNTY TOMORROW, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT VOTE WILL BE POSTPONED. SO LET ME SHARE THEM WITH YOU AND THIS LOVELY GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE AGREEMENT FOR PARKING. OH, ROBIN CARTWRIGHT, CITY OF STUART SUPER FAMOUS RIGHT HERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THE AGREEMENT FOR THE PARKING GARAGE WITH 450 SPACES, THAT IS NOW A SURFACE PARKING LOT WITH 200 SPACES, MEANING THAT 250 CARS ARE ANTICIPATED OF BEING PART OF THE ALREADY CROWDED STREET AND ON PARKING. STREET PARKING IN THE CITY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAND AGREEMENTS. SO THE COUNTY IS GIVING LAND TO THE CITY OF STUART, WHO WILL THEN LEASE EACH PARCEL FOR $1 A YEAR FOR 80 YEARS. ONE OF THOSE PARCELS IS NOT OF THE TRAIN STATION, AND THAT AGREEMENT IS THAT BRIGHTLINE CAN DEVELOP IT FOR A TOD AND CAN APPLY FOR THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD BE SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO IF I'M READING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY AND SOMEBODY PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE CITY OF STUART WILL BLESS BRIGHTLINE TO BE ABLE TO LEASE A PARCEL OF LAND FOR $1 A YEAR THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP.

BUT BRIGHTLINE IS NOT A REAL ESTATE COMPANY, NOR DO THEY HAVE A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, NOR REAL ESTATE DIVISION TO DO ANYTHING WITH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AT LEAST NOT THAT I COULD FIND. SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS LAND THAT THEY HAVE LEASED AGAIN FOR $1 A YEAR FOR 80 YEARS AND SUBLEASE IT TO A COMPANY THAT WILL DEVELOP IT? ROBIN, THAT'S BEEN REMOVED OUT OF THE AGREEMENT. SO IT'S STILL IT'S ON THE COUNTY'S AGENDA FOR TOMORROW THAT IT IS PART OF IT. WELL REGARDLESS, WE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY, A PARKING FACILITY, TRAIN STATION, BUYING TICKETS. AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS FOR 80 YEARS, WITH THE PROSPECT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT A PRIVATE COMPANY CAN MAKE MONEY OFF OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. SO SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I MUST BE MISSING SOMETHING THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA THAT PROVIDES A MUCH NEEDED BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY, TO THOSE OF US THAT LIVE HERE, BECAUSE I CANNOT FIGURE IT OUT AND I'M PRETTY SMART. I GRADUATED MAGNA LAUDE, I'M SIX SIGMA CERTIFIED. I'M DEFINITELY ABLE TO READ, AND I STILL FEEL LIKE I MUST BE MISSING SOMETHIN. SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY HERE, I AM GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS BEING RECONSIDERED. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT, WE ARE PAYING TWICE IN THE CITY OF STUART FOR SOMETHING THAT GIVES US ABSOLUTELY NO PERSONAL ECONOMIC BENEFIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS A AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE WHAT HAPPENED WAS IN 2010, WHEN THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD FOR THE CITY OF STUART, REVIEWED AGAIN THE CHARTER REVIEW AND THE COMP PLAN STUFF WHERE THEY GO OUT TO REFERENDUM THE ISSUE, REGARDING TRAINS CAME UP AGAIN AND THEY VOTED TO KEEP IT IN THE COMP PLAN AND TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN IN 2011, THE CITY PREPARED A TRANSIT STATION AND DESIGN FOR THE FINAL PHASE OF MEMORIAL PAR,

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HOWEVER, NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY MADE IT TO THE AGREEMENT. I KNOW THAT I GOT THE LETTER ON MARCH 4TH, AND ON MARCH 5TH I CONTACTED THEM AND TOLD THEM THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE THREE ACRES AND THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE THEM THREE ACRES AT THE LANDFILL. AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE FINAL SETTLEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, DID NOT INCLUDE THE TOD PROPERTY AT ALL AND WOULD NOT BE RENTING IT, LEASING IT, LETTING THE COUNTY USE IT OR LETTING BRIGHTLINE USE IT AT ALL. IT'S NOT PART OF THE AGREEMENT. IT'S THAT IT WILL REMAIN A PARKING LOT AND OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND USED, I BELIEVE, BY THE COURTHOUSE DURING THE WEEK AND THE BASEBALL FIELDS ON THE WEEKENDS. SO THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY WASN'T IN THE AGREEMENT. BUT ANYWAY, WE IT'S JUST AN UPDATE ON WHERE IT GOT THERE. AS I SAY, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE AND WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, APPARENTLY IN TWO WEEKS TO GO OVER THIS AGAIN IN DETAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE VOTED. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO I REWROTE IT. WELL, WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT OKAY. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. AND I HAVE TO SAY IT BRINGS A GREAT SMILE TO MY FACE TO SEE THE NEW COMMISSIONERS SITTING UP THERE.

WE WORK VERY HARD. YOU WORK VERY HARD. AND THANK YOU, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SITTING THERE, SO. BUT, GAIL, GOLDIE AND I AM AT 11153 NORTHWEST 12TH TERRACE. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER RICH SAID HE'S TALKING ABOUT GRANTS. I DO BEOLIEVE THAT YOU NEED AN EDUCATION ON GRANTS. GRANTS ARE NOT FREE MONEY. GRANTS COME WITH NO REMIND YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS ANYONE UP HERE SPECIFICALLY. OKAY, WELL, THEN THIS IS FOR ALL COMMISSIONERS. GRANTS COME.

GRANTS COME WITH NO GUARANTEES. JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A GRANT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR IT OR TO TAKE IT, BECAUSE IT IS A COST TO THE TAXPAYER. GRANTS HAVE BEEN MUCH LESS THAN WHAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR THEM ACTUALLY RECEIVE. AND AS A TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT IN THIS CITY, BUT I KNOW THAT MANY OF THE CITY RESIDENTS PAY TAXES TWICE. THEY PAY IT TO THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSALS AND THERE'S A GRANT ATTACHED TO IT, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE REALLY, REALLY DELVE INTO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING WITH THE GRANT IF WE'RE GOING TO GET IT. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? I DO NOT, MARY.

OKAY. I THINK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH BRIGHT LINE. SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK NOW. I WANT TO SAY WELCOME TO OUR NEW CITY COMMISSIONERS. WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THIS CITY, STUART, THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR. I'M SORRY, DINA PETERSON, TWO, TWO, ONE HIBISCUS, THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR. WELCOME. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CHANGE, I FEEL IT'S INSULTING AS A CITIZEN TO BE TOLD WE MISUNDERSTAND, A LOT OF US ARE VERY WELL INFORMED, ARE PAYING ATTENTION, AND WE'RE WATCHING. AND THE BRIGHT LINE STATION IS A HUGE COST. WE'RE NOT GUARANTEED THE GRANTS, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I THINK HAVING IT DONE RIGHT, THE VOTE DONE RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION WAS REALLY KIND OF ALMOST UNDERHANDED, LIKE IT COULD HAVE WAITED TILL WE HAD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE ROLLING THIS

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[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

I JUST WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT I'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH BOARD MEMBERS FROM STUART HERITAGE, AND I WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM AND BE BRINGING A DRAFT LEASE FORWARD SOMETIME, EITHER IN LATE DECEMBER OR LATE SEPTEMBER, EARLY OCTOBER, THEY'RE ALREADY IN POSSESSION, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ANY BIG DEAL OR EMERGENCY LEASE. IT'S ALREADY HAD A TEN YEAR LEASE. AND SO THE TEN YEAR LEASE EXPIRED AND YOU CAN'T EXTEND IT BEYOND TEN YEARS WITHOUT A REFERENDUM. SO THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE WILL BE UP TO THE COMMISSION. BUT I COULDN'T EVEN BRING A LEASE BACK FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THEIR TEN YEARS WAS UP. SO THAT WILL BE UP TO THE BOARD THE LENGTH OF TIME. AND THOSE TERMS. AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AT THE AGENDA ITEM, AND LASTLY, DURING THE MEETING BEFORE THE FOLKS THAT, HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE CDBG GRANT THAT SAID THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND THAT THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE, THE REASON THAT THE AGENDA ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA AND SCHEDULED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMISSION WAS BECAUSE THEY REACHED OUT AND WAS IN FACT, INTENDED TO BRING IT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION, TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE RESPONSE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, THAT THEY WERE SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE INTENTIONALLY BROUGHT IT FORWARD FOR THAT PURPOSE, AND I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT ON THE ACTUAL MERITS OR FACTS OF IT BECAUSE AS YOU ALL NOTICED AND WERE CLEAR ABOUT THE CITY OF STUART WAS MORE OF A CATALYST THAN THAN DEEPLY INVOLVED. SO I AM SURE THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY. AND RATHER THAN COMMENTING ON EITHER OF THEM, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE FLESHED OUT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. CAN I HAVE

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

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IT'S ALL IN FAVOR. NO, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA RELATED ITEMS. I

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ]

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WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER. ILLEGAL ALIENS BUILDING NEW HOUSES WITH ON THE JOB TRAINING.

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BUY A NEW HOUSE ANYWHERE ANYMORE. AND GET YOURSELF AN OLD HOUSE. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY. AND THE LORD IS GOOD. 95 VOTES. WHAT A DIFFERENCE 95 VOTES MAKES. IT WAS. IT WAS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN I LISTENED TO A YOUNG, WOKE MAYOR DESCRIBING ALL THE WOKE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN TO OUR CITY TO COMPLY WITH THE GLOBALIST AGENDA 21 AND THE EXISTING CITY MANAGER CHIMED IN, YEAH, AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER NEEDS A BRAND NEW TESLA. OKAY. AND SO THEN WHAT REALLY GOT ME EXCITED AND WANTING TO DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING ANYHOW, WAS WHEN THIS EXISTING MAYOR SAID, NOW WE'VE SPENT 2.5 HOURS DESCRIBING ALL THIS NEW AND BEAUTIFUL STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE SO GREAT FOR THE CITIZENS.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO CREATE A NEW POSITION, HIRE A FULL TIME POSITION THAT'S GOING TO SPEND TIME EDUCATING THE PEOPLE ON HOW GOOD IT IS. SO I WOULD HOPE THIS NEW COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS ONE THING. YOU WORK FOR US, NOT. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. VALERIE JONES. VALERIE JONES. NO, NO. VALERIE. VALERIE JONES, 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF, OF STEWART, CLEARL, EVERYBODY HERE IS AWARE OF THE BROUHAHA SURROUNDING THE PROPOSAL FOR GOLF COURSES AND RESORT HOTELS AT THE FLORIDA STATE PARKS, INCLUDING JONATHAN DICKINSON, I HAVE SADLY LEARNED THROUGH PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT DESPITE MASSIVE PUBLIC OUTCRY, NO PROPOSITION IS ACTUALLY DEAD UNTIL LAWS OR REGULATIONS ARE CHANGED AT THE STATE, CITY OR COUNTY LEVEL. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE STEWART CITY COMMISSION CONSIDER AND PASS A RESOLUTION PROTECTING THE SANCTITY OF JONATHAN DICKINSON AND OPPOSING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. DEBORAH. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. HARSH CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE A LITTLE ABOUT THE HAMILTON'S AND HOPEFULLY ALL THE SHODDY WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THE CHURCH CAN BE RECTIFIED, AND THE ORIGINAL BONES OF THE CHURCH WILL BE RECONSTRUCTED AND PUT BACK INTO ITS HISTORIC STATE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION INTO SAVING THE 1895 CHURCH ON THIRD STREET, AND MAKING IT THE LANDMARK THAT GENERATIONS TO COME WILL KNOW AND APPRECIATE. THE HISTORY OF POTSDAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ONE OF OUR. CRB MEMBERS, BONNIE MOSER, IS BONNIE HERE? OKAY DEANNA PETERSON OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS PETERSON. AND CARL, IS IT CARL HATHAWAY I LEFT, CARL LEFT? YES OKAY, SO THAT'S THE END OF ALL MY GREEN. OH NO, NO AGENDA ITEMS. I DO NOT, OKAY. IS HE SPEAKING TO A SPECIFIC ITEM? YES. JAMIE, DID YOU WANT TO. YES, I HAVE JIMMY'S, I HAVE JIMMY'S, HE'S ON A SPECIFIC ITEM. HE'S ON SIX. YEAH, I THINK MR. CHRISTIE IS ON SIX. TWO. WHO DID YOU JUST HAND ME THERE? CHIEF? CHARLES JONES. CHARLES JONES. SORRY, SIR, BUT YOU GET TO BE LAST. THERE'S ONE MORE. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THE LAST. SORRY GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S SAINT LUCIE OR MARTIN COUNTY, YOU SEE GROWTH, GROWTH

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OFFICIALLY COMMISSIONERS. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEWLY ELECTED COMMISSIONERS, BOTH AT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY LEVEL. WHILE VOTER TURNOUT WAS UNFORTUNATELY LOW COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, I THINK THOSE WHO DID VOTE MADE QUITE A STATEMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY VOTED FOR. SO WHAT DID WE LEARN THIS ELECTION? VOTERS CARE ABOUT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS, VOTES ON DEVELOPMENTS, AND APPARENT AND SOMETIMES REAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. AND NOW THAT THE ELECTIONS ARE OVER NOW WHAT? PAYING ATTENTION DOESN'T STOP JUST BECAUSE THE ELECTION IS OVER. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE INFLUENCES OVER ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS THE ACTIVITIES THEMSELVES. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THERE IS STILL WORK TO DO, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME BEFORE 2026 AND WE NEED TO MAKE VOTERS AWARE OF WHAT'S STILL AT STAKE AND WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. AND IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. THE ELECTIONS OF THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE AT THE CITY. CONGRATULATIONS. AND THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY ARE A REFERENDUM ON HOW CURRENT RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT THE VOTES BY THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONS, MAINLY THE DISREGARDING OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE. BECAUSE, AS A GENTLE REMINDER, WE WILL AND WE DO VOTE, AS EVIDENCED BY THE CHANGE YOU SEE TONIGHT ON THE DAIS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YO. MRS. RUDGE, GOOD EVENING. KAREN HALL, 1701 SOUTHWEST PALM CITY ROAD. I SECOND HER ABOUT HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE AND WHAT A CHANGE BEING MADE. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK MAYOR BRUNER AND COMMISSIONER MCDONALD FOR THEIR SERVICE. AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING A CHANGE. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, I WANT TO BRING UP THIS. WE HAVE TO STOP THIS NONSENSE ABOUT IF WE SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT YOU, WE'RE ALLOWED TO SAY YOUR NAME. BUT IF WE SAY SOMETHING THAT'S TRUE, THAT MAYBE YOU VOTED ON SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T CARE FOR, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE GOING TO BE INTERRUPTED. AND SO IT WAS YOU, MAYOR, WHO SAID THAT THAT INTERRUPTING A SPEAKER IS, NOT IS BAD FORM. AND THAT'S SO TRUE. IT'S VERY BAD FORM. SO I LOVE THAT I'M IN THIS CITY. I LOVE THIS COUNTY. BEEN VOTING HERE SINCE 1992. I LOVE MY COUNTRY. I LOVE BEING ABLE TO REDRESS MY GRIEVANCES TO MY GOVERNMENT. AND WE'RE EXCITED. BUT YES, LET'S NOT HAVE THIS NONSENSE. IT CAN'T BE SELECTIVE.

IT CAN'T LET SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING NICE. BUT THEN CALL OUT IF COMMISSIONER REED DOES SOMETHING WHICH I DON'T THINK HE WILL. BUT IF HE DOES, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. SO LET'S LET'S NOT DO SELECTIVE, OKAY? AND LET'S THIS PUBLIC COMMENT. LOOK WHAT TIME IT IS. 7:00. WE'RE THE PUBLIC. WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING. WE LOVE YOU GUYS. BUT MAYBE COMMISSIONERS SHOULD GO AFTER U. AND IF YOU WANT TO GO BEFORE US, YOU GET THREE MINUTES. YOU HAVE CAUGHT US FROM 5 TO 3 MINUTES. THIS IS NONSENSE. OKAY, SO WE LOVE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY IS ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING YOU AND FOR ALL THIS. SO ANYWAY, GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD BLESS THE CITY OF STUART. I'M GOING TO READ NO FURTHER AFTER THAT. THIS SUNSET. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? PULLING ITEMS THREE

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THANKS, MAYOR. MR. CAMPANILE, I'M ALL OUT OF. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS ROBERT HAMILTON. THE 1895 CHURCH OF STUART, 311 SOUTHWEST THIRD STREET, MR. CAMPANILE MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS FOR PINAL GANDHI. I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM PINAL. THE OTHER DAY. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN OUR CITY IS IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM, OUR CITY GETS NO MONEY.

DO YOU REALIZE THAT 25 TO 30% GOES TO THE GUARDIAN PROGRAM? WHO WOULD NOT HELP US? WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE TEETH AND THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. THE PROGRAM IS GREAT. I'VE WORKED WITH MR. GANDHI BEFORE RIGHT HERE ON PROJECTS WE ALWAYS DIDN'T AGREE, BUT SHE WAS PROFESSIONAL. SHE WAS NICE AND WE MET IN THE MIDDLE AND IT WAS SERIOUS. I HAD TO DO WITH WATER FLOODING UNDER THE TURRET AND SHE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND WE RESOLVED THE ISSUE. I'VE ASKED, AND YOU GOT THE FLOODED EMAIL AND I KNOW MR. MORTEL GOT MINE. I JUST FEEL AND I'M NOT TRYING TO POKE ANYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM, BECAUSE YOU RESPONDED AND YOU TALKED TO ME AND YOU MADE ME FEEL LIKE A HUMAN. AND WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO BRIAN MASS OFFICE, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING MULTIPLE MEETINGS, I SAID, WE FEEL SUBHUMAN. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GET OUT AND IT'S TAXPAYERS MONEY, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO TALK. I REALIZE MR. MORTEL IS BUSY, BUT I HAD TRULY HOPED IN THE HEART OF OUR PEOPLE, OUR CITIZENS HERE, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, MIKE? YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE HAMILTONS AND CANAL AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND GET LOU IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

AND, BRUCE, I'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS HERE FOR YEARS, RESTORING THAT PLACE. I REALIZE HE'S BUSY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH MASS OFFICE TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. AND HE SAID, WHEN YOU'RE THERE, YOU TELL THEM IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SUSPECTED FRAUD OR MISAPPROPRIATION OF FEDERAL DOLLARS OR STATE DOLLARS, YOU CONTACT ME AT MY OFFICE. I RELY ON ALL OF YOU PEOPLE HERE, I KNOW YOU, I DON'T INTERFERE IN YOUR REGULAR BUSINESS, MR. MORTAL KNOWS ME. I SPENT MY LIFE IN LITIGATION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I LIKE. IT'S WHAT I DID AND WAS GOOD AT. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I WAS A TRIAL CONSULTANT. BUT I KNOW HOW TO PUT A TRIAL TOGETHER. OLGA HANDLES 1200 PIECES OF EVIDENCE WITHOUT A MISS IN HIS 44 MILLION IN OUR COMMUNITY ON A BAD CHAIN FROM A CHINESE COMPANY. I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK SHE DID. BUT WHEN WE FOUND OURSELVES IN THAT BAD SITUATION, WE HAD TO REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS. AND I REALIZE THIS PROTOCOL YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WE DON'T COUNT OR SUBHUMAN. SO YOU CAN COME IN AND SPEAK THREE MINUTES. IT WOULD TAKE ME AND MR. MARTEL AND MISS GANDY TO SIT DOWN FOR SEVERAL HOURS TO HAVE OLGA SHOW THE DOCUMENTATION, AND SOME OF IT'S FLAT OUT FRAUD INTO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WRONG. WHAT THEY DID TO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT NOT TELLING THEM, BUT I HAD IT IN MY CONTRACT. THEY DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO READ MY CONTRACT.

WELL, THERE IT WAS IN THE CONTRACT BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S GOING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. I WOULD JUST YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME. OH, THERE'S NO TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. OKAY. JUST I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE, BUT IT WAS THERE WERE NOT QUITE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN ATTENDANCE. AND STUART IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE SO MANY CONCERNED CITIZENS. AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE REMARKS I WAS GOING TO MAKE TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS IS THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB, BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER IS HERE IN PUBLIC ON THE DAIS. I HOPE NONE OF YOU HAVE EACH OTHER'S PHONE NUMBERS. I HOPE NONE OF YOU TEXT EACH OTHER. I HOPE NONE OF YOU EMAIL EACH OTHER. I HOPE YOU NEVER SPEAK ON THE PHONE, BECAUSE THAT IS A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. AND THAT IS NOT A LITTLE THING. OKAY? UP IN SEBASTIAN, IF I CAN FIND MY REMARKS. THREE COMMISSIONERS BROKE THE SUNSHINE. TWO OF THEM WENT TO JAIL. THEY LOST THEIR OFFICE. TWO OF THEM WENT TO JAIL, HAD A FINE, AND THE THIRD WAS REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND HAD A FINE. SO IF I SPEND 10% OF MY TIME UP HERE, I'D BE SURPRISED. MOST OF MY TIME IS SPENT TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY, AND IT'S A LOT MORE THAN

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YOU'VE COME HERE AFTER WORK AND YOUR TIME IS LIMITED AS WELL. AND WE HAVE TO GET TO THESE DECISIONS AND THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT IT. AND SO WE DO HAVE TO BE SELFISH. WITH THE DEMANDS OF, OF THAT TIME. AND MISS RAJ, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT. OKAY. NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT THE AUDIENCE. WE'RE THE TAXPAYERS. GAIL, GOLDIE, GAIL, GOLDIE. SHERRY SPOKE. GAIL. GOLDIE 1153 NORTHWEST 12TH TERRACE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, ON THE, OLGA HAMILTON'S, TALK ABOUT THE SHODDY WORK THAT WAS DONE AT HER PROPERTY, I HAVE SEVERAL I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD GRANTS AND WERE GRANTED THE GRANT. AND THE WORK THAT WAS DONE WAS ATROCIOUS, IT WAS TERRIBLE, THE WORK AND MY THING WOULD BE THAT I JUST WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE OF PICKING THE CONTRACTORS THAT DO THIS WORK. IF THERE'S A LIST THAT THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM. I KNOW THAT OLGA SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE CHEAPEST. THEY WENT TO THE MOST EXPENSIVE. BUT WHOEVER THEY ARE, I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BETTER VETTING PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK AND THAT I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU GET TO DO THE VETTING PROCESS, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS DOING A BETTER VETTING PROCESS FOR THESE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE WORKING ON A GRANT AND TAXPAYER MONEY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IN THE IN THE CDBG GRANT ARENA, THAT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM. AND THE CITY OF STUART ISN'T THE ONE THAT GETS TO SELECT OR DO ANY OF THE VETTING PROCESS. SO WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T PARTICIPATE ON THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RFP OR ANY CRITERIA OR ANY REVIEW AUTHORITY AT ALL. MR. NAUGLE WAS CORRECT THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON HERS WERE FROM JACKSONVILLE, AND I KNOW THAT AT THE MEETING BEFORE THIS, WHEN COMMISSIONER CLARK BROUGHT IT UP, THIS WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD A MATTER IN EAST STUART WHERE THE PEOPLE HAD A CDBG GRANT AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS FROM TEXAS AND WAS OPERATING UNDER A TEMPORARY LICENSE. MR. ERNST. AND THAT IS THE LAST GREEN CARD I HAVE. SO ARE YOU SURE? OR ON AGENDA ITEMS, GREETINGS, COMMISSIONERS. SMALL TOWN. STUART SMALL TOWN. STUART, LET'S BE PROUD OF SMALL TOWNS AND YOUR ADDRESS. PLEASE SAY AGAIN. COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? YES, BOB ERNST, 801 JOHNSON AVENUE. THANK YOU. AND STUART, I LOOK UP AT THAT SHIELD THERE, AND I SEE SMALL TOWN. STUART AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME LAURA AND SEAN. AND I'D NEVER SEEN CHRIS SMILE. SO MUCH. IT'S TRUE. SORRY TO SAY, THE LAST COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST SMALL TOWN STUART. AND IT'S NOT THE RHETORIC WE LISTEN TO. IT'S THE VOTES WE LOOK AT. REMEMBER THE OUTCRY WHEN CUBESMART STORAGE WAS BUILT AT THE CORNER OF US ONE AND PALM CITY? WE THOUGHT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION WOULD LISTEN WHEN THERE WAS SUCH AN OUTCRY. THEY DID NOT. MATHESON BRUNER AND MCDONALD ARE ALL GONE NOW. WE TOLD THEM TRAFFIC ON CANNA WAS UNSUSTAINABLE, CAN EARN US ONE NORTH AND SOUTH AND NOW WE KNOW OFFICIALLY NORTH.

THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT TRAFFIC ON NORTH, BUT BUILD MORE

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ONLY ONCE. ONLY ONCE, ONLY ONCE. OKAY WELL, JUST LET HER GO TO A MEETING. YES. RIGHT ON TIME. BY THE. OKAY. CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THE MOVE? ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I PULLED ITEM

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

COMMISSIONER. COLLINS. YES. MR. BAGGETT, WILL YOU READ ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE? SURE MAYOR,

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COMMISSIONER COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. VICE MAYOR RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER.

REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. SELBY YES. WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE FIRST READING OF ITEMS. OH, DID WE PASS TWO AND FIVE IN THE CONSENT? YES, WE PASSED THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I GOT THAT ONE. IS IT IS IT? YEAH. WE DID VOTE. YES, WE DID VOTE, DID WE, MADAM? YES. NO WE DIDN'T. WE DID NOT PULL IT OKAY. IT'S APPROVED. IT'S APPROVED WHICH INCLUDED THE MINUTES FIRST READING. MR.

[6. 710 SE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD - REZONE TO BUSINESS AND MIXED-USE (BMU) ZONING DISTRICT (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2532-2024; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, TO REZONE A 2.4-ACRE PARCEL, LOCATED AT 710 SE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, BEING MORE DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A" ATTACHED, FROM COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO BUSINESS AND MIXED-USE ZONING DESIGNATION; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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CORRECT? YEAH. THIS IS JUST REZONING THE PARCEL AT ISSUE AND AGAIN, THE NEXT HEARING, YOU'LL HAVE A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU VOTE ON APPROVAL OR DENY PROJECT. RIGHT.

OTHER REZONING. BUT THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S COMING SECOND READING ON THE REZONING AT THE NEXT HEARING. SO IT'S ALSO THE I'M JUST GOING TO ASK AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SPENT MORE TIME. THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT I'M HEARING TWO DIFFERENT ALONE BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I'M HEARING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S A VOTE TO CHANGE IT. BUT YOU SAID IT'S JUST A VOTE TO MOVE IT FORWARD WHERE IT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING. CORRECT. VOTED ON AT THAT POINT. SO FOR TODAY IS NOT TO VOTE TO ACCEPT THE REZONING. IT'S TO PUSH IT FORWARD TO THE SECOND HEARING. RIGHT. SO UNDER UNDER STATE STATUTE AND UNDER OUR CITY ORDINANCE, WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO HEARINGS. THE LAW ONLY REQUIRES THAT WE READ IT AT THE FIRST HEARING FOR THE REZONING. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SECOND ORDINANCE READING NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, AND IT WILL BE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

YOU'LL HAVE TO DISCLOSE EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD, YOU WILL ALSO HEAR EVIDENCE UNDER OATH, AND YOU'LL MAKE A DECISION THERE. YOU'LL ACT AND YOU'LL ACT AS IN JUDICIAL IN NATURE AT THE NEXT HEARING. THERE'S ALSO, I THINK, A SECOND COMPONENT, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT ONLY HAS TO BE DONE ONE TIME. IT'LL BE A SECOND HEARING ON THE SAME PROPERTY, BUT TONIGHT IS JUST REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM THE PUD TO THE BUSINESS MIXED USE. SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE ACTUAL REZONING. I'M READING. IF ALL OF YOU VOTE YES, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT BINDING BECAUSE IT REQUIRES TWO HEARINGS. YOU'D STILL HAVE TO COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AND THE VOTE ON SEPTEMBER 9TH IS THE BINDING VOTE. TODAY IS MORE OF A SIGNAL TO THE PUBLIC AND TO EVERYBODY ELSE AS TO WHAT YOU INTEND TO DO. SEPTEMBER 9TH, ABSENT SOME CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES, IF WE DID VOTE NO HYPOTHETICALLY TONIGHT, YOU COULD STILL VOTE YES. IT STILL MOVE FORWARD ON THE NINTH. YEAH, WELL, IF FIVE OF YOU VOTED NO, IT WOULD STILL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING AND WOULD BE REALLY UP FOR THE ACTUAL VOTE ON THE NINTH. DID YOU HEAR THAT COMMISSIONER JOB, ACTUALLY, I WAS TELLING SEAN WAS OUT OF THE ROOM I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM TO ASK THE ATTORNEY WHAT WHAT HAD JUST BEEN EXPLAINED TO STATE THAT MR. MARTEL, COMMISSIONER JOB, YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT, IF ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS VOTE NO TONIGHT ON THE ZONING, IT STILL WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND COME BACK FOR THE SECOND READING, BECAUSE THE SECOND READING IS THE ACTUAL VOTE ON A ZONING TECHNICALLY, UNDER STATE LAW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS OF A MOTION, BUT ONLY ONE VOTE. IT HAS BEEN THE CULTURE AND TRADITION IN STUART TO HAVE THE COMMISSION VOTE AT BOTH READINGS OF THE MOTION, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE FIRST HEARING AND WANT TO SEE HOW THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL. AND HISTORICALLY, THE COMMISSIONERS FELT LIKE IT WAS KIND OF LEAVING THE PUBLIC IN THE LURCH IF THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY VOTE AT THAT FIRST READING, AFTER SEEING WHAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT. ET CETERA. SO WE VOTE ON IT AT FIRST READING, EVEN THOUGH THE VOTE AT SECOND READING IS ACTUALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNTS. IT'S NOT LIKE WE GO BACK AND TAKE AN AVERAGE OF THE FIRST AND SECOND READING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S BEEN A TRADITION AND STANDARD. AND STUART, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE MEETINGS TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS SHOW HOW THEY'RE FEELING AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING, HOWEVER, THERE COULD BE NEW INFORMATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND MEETING THAT CAUSES YOU TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. JODY GOOD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC. NO PRESENTATION FROM THE. OH, I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR RICH. AND WELCOME NEW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GERVAIS AND COMMISSIONER REED. THANK YOU, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF

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AND SHE HAS THE INSIGHT OF HOW WE GOT HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY. GOOD EVENING PINAL GANDHI. SADA CRA DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SINCE 2021. SO I WANT TO PROVIDE A BRIEF HISTORY OF ABOUT THE PROJECT AND HOW WE GOT HERE, ESPECIALLY TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, SO THIS IS THE PROJECT TIMELINE, THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS SITE IS A REZONING, FROM CPUC TO BMU FOR JOB TRAINING CENTER. AND WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH WILL BE HEARD AT THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING. SO THE PROJECT. SORRY. I'M SORRY. MR. WHEN YOU DO THE ALPHABET SOUP, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN IT TO THE RESIDENTS? CPU D BMU RIGHT. SO THE REZONING APPLICATION, ACTUALLY, JODY WILL GO THROUGH THE REZONING APPLICATION PROCESS AND PRESENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC. I'M JUST PRESENTING THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. SO, YEAH, THERE WILL BE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE REZONING, SO AGAIN, THE PROJECTS, WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2021, THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WAS A CDBG COVID RELIEF GRANT AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITIES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY MADE $5 BILLION AVAILABLE TO STATES TO PREVENT, PREPARE FOR, AND RESPOND TO ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC, THEN THE HUD, WHICH IS THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY PARTNERED WITH, WITH FLORIDA COMMERCE, IT USED TO BE CALLED DEO, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, THEY PARTNERED WITH FLORIDA COMMERCE TO ADMINISTER THE GRANT. AND THEN THE GRANT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS ADVERTISEMENT, WHICH IS NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT, CITY OF STUART DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE THIS GRANT. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE. IT FOR, SO WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING. THERE WAS A NOTICE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER. WE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, HEAR THEIR IDEAS AND WHAT WE WANTED TO APPLY FOR, WE WERE LIMITED TO CERTAIN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES THAT THE PROGRAM OFFERED. SO WE HAD TWO MEETINGS BACK IN FEBRUARY 2021 TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, WE COULD ACQUIRE, CONSTRUCT, REHAB, BUILDING, ASSISTANCE TO BUSINESSES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY COVID. PUBLIC SERVICES AND PROJECT PLANNING, SUCH AS DESIGN STUDIES TO PREVENT FROM PREVENT AND PLANNING FOR FUTURE PANDEMICS, SO WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE, AT THE END, THE BOARD DID RECOMMEND THAT WE WERE GOING TO ACQUIRE THE WILLIE GARY PROPERTY. THIS WAS ALL AT THE PUBLIC HEARING MEETING. WE WERE GOING TO ACQUIRE THE 710 SOUTH EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR JOB TRAINING CENTER TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, TO HELP GROW THE ECONOMY AND FOSTER GENERATIONAL GROWTH FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR STUART RESIDENTS, APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BACK IN MARCH 2021. THERE WERE NO ACTIONS. WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM THE STATE UNTIL JUNE 2022, WHEN DESANTIS, ANNOUNCED THAT 23 COMMUNITIES WERE AWARDED GRANT FOR THE PROJECT THAT WE APPLIED FOR, WE WERE ONE OF THE 23 COMMUNITIES THAT RECEIVED THE GRANT FOR $4.7 MILLION, THE HIGHEST AMOUNT, SO WE WERE VERY EXCITED, AND WE DID HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS TO ACCEPT THE GRANT. AND THEN, WE EXECUTED A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE STATE BACK IN JANUARY 2023, WE BEGAN THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, DURING THAT PROCESS, WE DID SOME INSPECTIONS, AND IT WASN'T FEASIBLE TO REHAB THE BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT WE INITIALLY APPLIED FOR REHAB THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, BUT IT WASN'T COST FEASIBLE. SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE SCOPE TO DEMO AND NEW CONSTRUCTION, SO THEN I WENT BACK TO THE STATE AND I SAID, HEY, WE NEED ADDITIONAL MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO I REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL $1.5 MILLION PROJECT, SO THEY DID RECENTLY APPROVE IT, FOR A TOTAL OF $6.2 MILLION, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUST EXECUTED LAST MONTH. SO WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T GET THE FULL AMOUNT THE LAST MONTH, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.

THAT IS A LONG PROCESS. IT TAKES ALMOST A YEAR TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS YOU'VE HEARD AT THE

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WE JUST HAD TO SIT STILL. AND WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY FOR $1.6 MILLION IN JANUARY 2024. AGAIN, ANYTIME WE TAKE ANY ACTIONS ALL THESE ITEMS COME TO COMES BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WE ADVERTISE FOR RFP, CONTRACTED WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO DESIGN THE BUILDING AND THE SITE PLANNING. THAT WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH 2024. AGAIN, THE PROCESS WAS VERY FAST. AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACQUISITION, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE HAPPENED IN LIKE 4 OR 5 MONTHS, WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO PARTNER WITH PROJECT CLIFF, SO WE HAD A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WE EXECUTED THAT AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT CLIFF BACK IN APRIL OF 2024. AND THEN ONCE WE HAD, CONCEPTUAL PLANS, WE WENT BEFORE THE EASTWARD NEIGHBORHOOD, TO GET THEIR, THEIR INPUT ON THE SITE PLAN AND DESIGN. AND IT'S TRUE. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY SAW THAT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE JUST STARTED WORKING ON THAT BACK AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED APPROVAL AND ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY. SO WITHIN A FEW MONTHS, WE DID GO BEFORE THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR INPUT AND THEN, CRB AND LP MEETING FOR LAST MONTH, WE RECEIVED, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR REZONING TODAY. I'M HERE BEFORE YOU, CITY COMMISSION TO GET YOUR APPROVAL ON REZONING. AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER NINTH, I'LL COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN FOR REZONING FINAL REZONING APPROVAL AND CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL. AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, WE HOPE TO SUBMIT FOR DEMOLITION SITE AND BUILDING PERMITS BY NICK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, SHOULD WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL ADVERTISE FOR CONSTRUCTION, GET THE BID ON CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER 2024. HOPE TO AWARD THE CONTRACT BY NOVEMBER 2024. AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION BY EARLY 2025. AND HOPE TO, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IT BY LATE 2025. AND THEN, CLOSE OUT THE GRANT BY 2026. THAT IS OUR DEADLINE. WE DO HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THIS GRANT. THERE'S NO EXTENSION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. BUT JODY IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODY COOGLER. I'M WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, I TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, A PETITION SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY'S COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO AMEND THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING ATLAS MAP TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 710 SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD, FROM COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO A BUSINESS MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT. BY THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN UNDER SECTION 11.02 .05 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE APPLICANT MAILED 40 LETTERS TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL, PROVIDING DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.

ADDITIONALLY, THREE SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH THIS SAME INFORMATION. THE 2.4 ACRE VACANT SITE IS LOCATED IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD AND TARPON AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AREA AND ALSO LOCATED IN THE EAST STUART AREA. ACCORDING TO THE FORM BASED CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2023, THIS. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN EAST STUART NEIGHBORHOOD. ZONING DISTRICT AND ACCORDING TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY PRESENTATIONS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, THIS ZONING CHANGE HAD TO GO BEFORE THE CRB, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, AND TONIGHT AT THE CITY COMMISSION. THIS JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIMELINE OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED ON THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN 1985, THROUGH THE THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBER 1037, 85, AND THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED FROM R3 TO COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO AMENDED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ENTERED AND ENTERING A C, A COMMERCIAL

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AGAIN, THE LAND USE IS EAST STEWART. JODY, HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN DID THAT PARCEL NEXT TO IT? BECOME BMU? BECAUSE WE JUST DID THIS. WE JUST DID THIS OVERLAY RECENTLY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE STRANGE FOR THAT TO JUST BE A ONE OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR ALL BEING. YES. OKAY. SO ACCORDING TO OUR, DIRECTOR OF CRA DIRECTOR, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LISTED AS A BMU. ISN'T THAT A PART OF THE BM STEWART OVERLAY? JODY I CAN GIVE YOU SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT TO THAT. SO YOU'RE CORRECT IN 2003 WAS WHEN THAT WAS ADOPTED. DID YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? YES THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, I'M RUSTY, JESSICA, JESSICA SEYMOUR WITH TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. WE ASSISTED THE CRA AND THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF BACK IN 2002 AND 2003 WITH THE, THE CODE UPDATE IN THIS AREA, VERY FEW MAP CHANGES WERE MADE. SO WE WANTED TO STAY CONSISTENT SO THAT BMU WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE AT THAT TIME. SO THERE WAS VERY FEW CHANGES INTO WHAT WAS THE PERMITTED USES IN THAT AREA. SO YOU ASSIGN THAT BMU WHEN YOU DID THAT OVERLAY? NO, NO IT WASN'T, IT WAS IN THE BMU THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, DUPLEX ZONING DISTRICT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THE ROW, WHICH IS THE GENERAL RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, THOSE WERE ALL EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES. AND SO WE KEPT CONSISTENT WITH THOSE. THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF PLACES WHERE THERE WERE SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT THAT WAS ALREADY A THE INTENSITY THAT WAS AT THAT LOCATION WAS AND BY INTENSITY, I MEAN THE PERMITTED USES WERE CONSISTENT. SO THERE WASN'T A CHANGE IN THAT AREA. AGAIN, THIS IS THE, TITLE READING FROM THE ORDINANCE. AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THIS PETITION CONFORMS WITH THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED IN SECTION 11.0200 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATUTES, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STAFF REQUESTS. THE CITY OF STUART CITY COMMISSION FORWARD TO THE SECOND AND FINAL ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2532, DASH 2024 AT THE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2024, CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO

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IT'S CURRENTLY PD AND WITHIN KPD IT ALLOWS THIS USE COMMERCIAL OPERATION BEFORE THE COMMISSION BEFORE WAS RIGHT. YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM A PUD TO STRAIGHT ZONING AND RATHER THAN HAVING A PUD, THE DIRECTION WAS TO HAVE IT BE STRAIGHT ZONING SO THAT YOU COULD LEAVE IT PUD.

HERE'S MY ONLY CONCERN. THIS IS MY THIS IS MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS IF I CAN DO WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. I WOULD RATHER LEAVE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WHEN WE GO BMU, I OPEN THIS PARCEL UP TO A LOT OF OTHER NEW LAND USES LATER, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, LIKE WITHIN A PUD, YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, YOU CAN'T HAVE MULTIFAMILY, YOU CAN'T HAVE A HOSPITAL, YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ADULT BUSINESS. YOU CAN'T HAVE, DRY CLEANING. YOU CAN'T HAVE THERE'S A LOT OF THESE USAGES THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE. YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SCHOOL THAT WE WANT TO DO HERE. THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND, SO ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, THE BMU DOES NOT. I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF. BMU DOES NOT ALLOW VOCATIONAL USE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD AS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR VOCATIONAL USE. RIGHT? THAT'S THE NEXT MEETING WITHIN KPD. WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE ANYWAY, RIGHT? BUT THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WITH KPD, LIKE 25% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT'S HARD TO MEET. THAT GETS INTO MY NEXT ISSUE IS WE'RE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CHANGING ZONING HERE TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK, WE'RE CHANGING THE TREE. THE TREE. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE HOLD DEVELOPERS FEET TO THE FIRE FOR, LIKE, TREE ALLOWANCES AND, YOU KNOW, IMPERVIOUS SPACE. BMU ALLOWS MORE IMPERVIOUS SPACE.

THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO BE WORSE. HAVE WE HAVE WE CONSIDERED DOING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, WITH THE KPD IS IMPOSSIBLE. AND I'LL STOP INTERRUPTING YOU, WELL, OUR INTENTION WAS TO GO BACK TO STRAIGHT ZONING, BECAUSE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE FORM BASED CODE, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THE STRAIGHT ZONING WORKS. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUD PROCESS, STRAIGHT ZONIN, THE WAY WE'VE DEVELOPED IT, IT REQUIRES MORE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE OTHER, THINGS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET BY DOING STRAIGHT ZONING VERSUS PUD PROCESS, CONDITIONAL USE FOR VOCATIONAL JUST FOR THE VOCATIONAL USE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ALLOW VOCATIONAL USE, BUT AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURE, WE'RE MEETING ALL THE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WORKED SO HARD TO GET APPROVED THROUGH FORM BASED CODE. FOR ME, I'LL JUST SAY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BOARD IS I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING BMU HERE, IF I CAN ACHIEVE WHAT I WANT TO ACHIEVE WITH THE KPD BECAUSE THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE BEHIND THAT STREET NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF THIS MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY KIND OF STUFF GOING ON. I WOULDN'T NEXT TO MY SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM, JUST GENERALLY. YEAH. AND I THINK WE CAN EASILY MEET THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, IF WE DO DECIDE THAT, IF THAT'S A DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD IS EXEMPT IN THE CRA, I'M SORRY, THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OF EXEMPT IN THE CRA, NOT IN THE MOVIE, BUT WE'LL CHECK THAT. BUT I THINK WE CAN MEET THAT, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING. BUT OTHER OTHER THAN THAT, THE TREES. YEAH. WE ARE PROVIDING ACTUALLY I WANTED KIMLEY-HORN TO PRESENT THE SITE PLAN AND SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ON THE SITE. AND THERE IS A LOT OF AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT WE WERE WAIVING PARKING. CORRECT. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE NEXT MEETING. GOT IT RIGHT, COMMISSIONER. JODY, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? I KNOW, COMMISSIONER COLLINS. IF I IF I MAY JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, SINCE THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 1985 AS A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS A CONTRACT ZONING AT THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CODE THAT SAYS WHAT WAS PERMITTED. SO THE CONTRACT ZONE TODAY ONLY ALLOWS WHAT'S EXISTING THERE TODAY. SO EITHER WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AS A PUD. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AS A PLANNED UNIT. WE WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY NO MATTER WHAT. SO FOR

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SO FOR FUTURE, IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR AN APPLICANT, WHETHER IT'S PROJECT LIFT OR SOMEONE IN THE FUTURE. THEY WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BASED OFF THE BMU.

YES. IF YOU REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A BUSINESS MIXED USE, YOU WOULD. YOU WOULD APPROVE THE PROJECT. IF YOU HAD WENT THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS, IT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR WHAT YOU WHAT THE USE IS, WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING AND THE SITE PLAN. IF THERE IS A CHANGE OF USE AND IT WASN'T CONSISTENT, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT. IT COULD EITHER BE ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE AS LONG AS THE USE WAS WITHIN THE BUSINESS MIXED USE CATEGORY, AND THE CONDITIONAL USE IS STRICTLY FOR THE VOCATIONAL. THAT'S. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. SAME THING. IT WOULD BE THE SAME CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. LIKE I SAID, WE WERE JUST BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE REGULATING PLAN. BUT IF IT'S A BMU, AS LONG AS IT'S ONE OF THOSE USES, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH BMU, WHICH IS EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING IN BMU, THE ONLY KNOW IS A SIX PERSON OR MORE GROUP HOME. EVERYTHING IS ALLOWED. SO AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN ALLOWABLE USE IN ANY TYPE OF USE, THEN YOU YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SAY YES. AND THIS IS MY ISSUE IS, IS IF SOMETHING GOES THERE, IT CAN NOW BE ANYTHING WHERE HAVING THAT KPD LOCKS IN THIS USAGE. AND THEN IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH A NEW PROJECT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IF WE WANT TO MAKE IT APARTMENTS, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A TOTALLY NEW, WELL, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOUR CONDITIONAL USE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AS WELL, RIGHT? SO IF YOU WENT BUSINESS MIXED USE OR IF YOU WENT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU APPROVE THE VOCATIONAL AND THE SITE PLAN IS ADJACENT, THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROJECT. AND THEY SAY THEY THEY MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL. THEN THE NEXT PERSON WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO AMEND THE CONDITIONAL USE OR TO THE NEW USE, BUT YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THE CONDITIONAL USE WOULDN'T MATTER UNLESS IT WAS. IT'S A LAND USE FOR EAST STEWART. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT'S NOT KPD DOESN'T. WE'RE CHANGING IT. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, I THINK A GOOD POINT IS WITHIN A KPD, THERE'S A VERY LIMITED RESIDENTIAL POSSIBILITY HERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BECOME AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. BUT IF IT'S BMU THAT APPLICANT. RIGHT. COULD BANG AS LONG AS THEY GO THROUGH YOU GUYS. CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT COMMISSIONER. SO IF I'M A SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, I WANT TO TRY TO REALLY LOCK IN AND PROTECT IT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A SCHOOL. UNLESS A WHOLE NEW PUD HAPPENS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SEEN. THERE'S NO WAY THAT COULD HAPPEN ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE KPD AS WELL. I'M SORRY, WHO ARE YOU? I'M CHRISTINA BELL WITH KIMLEY-HORN. SO SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU KIND OF THE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MEETING. THESE WERE CODE, YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE. OH, GREAT. RIGHT HERE.

I'M SORRY. JUST JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. YES. DO WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR THIS? YEAH, IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT. YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT? BUT THE PRESIDENT DRIVING YOUR ZONING RIGHT NOW, WHICH NORMALLY WOULDN'T BE DRIVING THE ZONING, BUT IT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECT LIFT BEING THE END USE RATHER THAN A LONG TERM END USE. BUT THE CHANGE IN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS SPECIFIC ITEM IS, IT COULD EITHER WAY, IT COULD BE THE SAME USE. SO TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT IS KIND OF IRRELEVANT.

IT'S DO WE WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM IT'S IRRELEVANT OR IRRELEVANT. IT'S NOT RELEVANT BECAUSE EITHER WAY YOU CAN DO THE SAME USE. THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING DIFFERENTLY WITH THIS PROJECT UNDER A PUD. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT DOESN'T DRIVE THE LAND DESIGNATION. RIGHT. BUT THE PROJECT IS DRIVING THE LAND DESIGNATION BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU COULD DO THE PROJECT UNDER A PUD, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PROJECT IS DRIVING THE LAND DESIGNATION? THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE COMMISSION WANT TO ADDRESS THE LAND USE ON IT? RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY AN EXPIRED PUD THAT WAS ADOPTED IN EAST STEWART

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AND WE NEED TO BE EDUCATED, TOO. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE WE'RE NOT VOTING. WE'RE JUST LEARNING ABOUT IT. SO, AS, AS AS MENTIONED, IT'S ON SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. THERE IS AN EXISTING ACCESS. CURRENTLY VEHICULAR ACCESS THERE THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE CLOSED TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND TO MEET THE STREET FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS, THE BUILDING HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO, EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. AND SO THERE'S NO REALLY SET BACK. IT'S ACTUALLY A SET TWO ONLINE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING IS, PARALLEL TO SOUTHEAST. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD WITH NO VEHICULAR ACCESS. THERE'S A SHARED USE PATH THAT'S 11 FOOT WITH STREET WITH LIGHTING AND SHADE OAK TREES THAT GOES ALONG THE EAST SIDE, YOU CAN SEE. EXCUSE ME, IS YOUR THING LIT? IS YOUR POINTER LIT? I DON'T SEE WHERE YOUR POINT THERE. YEAH. OKAY. SORRY SO RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE SHARED USE PATH. AND IT YOU CAN ENTER HERE AND GO ALL THE WAY UP TO, MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. AS I SAY, THIS IS 11 FOOT PATH WITH SHADE OAK TREES LINED ALL THE WAY ALONG IT WITH LIGHTING AS WELL. THERE'S PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG THE PURPLE AREA, SHOWN ON ALL SIDES TO PROVIDE FOR WIDER SIDEWALKS WITH STREET TREES AS WELL. FOR ADDITIONAL SHADE, THERE IS IN THIS CORNER HERE PROPOSED 1500 FOOT OF GREEN OPEN SPACE WITH BIKE RACKS AND BENCH AMENITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR THE PUBLIC. SORRY, THE PURPLE IS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION THAT WOULD GO FOR FUTURE ALONGSIDE SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, THE ON STREET PARKING. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROJECT. THIS IS JUST DEDICATED IN CASE IF IT WERE TO COME IN, IT WOULD BE THERE AND BE READILY AVAILABLE. THERE'S A PICTURE.

THIS IS A BLACK AND WHITE EXTERIOR ELEVATION PHOTO. THE ARCHITECT IS ALSO HERE. IF WE WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT FURTHER, THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS TO JUST SHOW WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE'RE JUST ADDING ALONG HERE IS THE SHARED USE PATH THAT I MENTIONED WITH THE HEAVY SHADE OAK TREES THAT LINE IT. THIS IS YES, THIS IS MLK BOULEVARD DOWN HERE. THIS IS TARPON AVENUE HERE, AND SO THERE'S A VEHICULAR ACCESS HERE AND HERE, WHICH THESE ARE TWO

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AGAIN, THIS IS THAT SHARED PATH JUST TO SHOW THE WIDTH OF IT. IT IS RATHER LARGE. IT'S 11FT, SO IT CAN BE TRAVERSED WITH ON A BICYCLE OR A WALKING PATH. THERE'S LIGHTING AS WELL. THANK YOU. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. THANK YO. JIMMY SMITH, PUBLIC NO. JACKIE HAD A GREEN CARD. GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSION. MY NAME IS JIMMY SMITH. I COME TONIGHT JUST TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS. TO THE LAST PRESENTATIONS AND STUFF, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S CONCERNED AND FIGHTING ARGUING. AND WE HAVE WENT THROUGH A ROUGH TIME. I MEAN, FOR THE LAST, I'VE BEEN IN THE NAACP FOR 20, 22 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR NINE YEARS, GOING ON NINE, VICE PRESIDENT FOR NINE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN EAST STEWART. AND I COMMEND YOU, FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED HERE. I KNOW OUR COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING. WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED. WE'RE FIGHTING AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET FAMILY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT OWN THE PROPERTY TO DEVELOP. SO WE HAVE MORE HOUSING. WE LOST A LOT OF FAMILIES FROM THE AREA OF CHEROKEE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT LIFT THAT WE LOST.

I IMAGINE, PROBABLY WHAT, 6 OR 7 FAMILIES, THAT LIVED OVER THERE IN CHEROKEE. WE LOST PROBABLY 6 OR 7, 70 FAMILIES, THERE. JOYCE TAYLOR, VOTERS. YES, WHEN I SAY 6 TO 7 FAMILY, THERE'S PROBABLY 6 OR 7, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVED IN A HOUSE, A LOT OF VOTES. I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M I'M JUST HOPING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING IN EAST STEWART. I KNOW THE PROJECT LIFT IS SET IN PLACE. I'M SUPPORTED TO HELP OUR KIDS TO BE EDUCATED. I'M HOPING THAT OUR PARK, THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YEARS TO TRY TO GET DONE, THE PARK THERE TO GOT DAVIS PARK THAT ALL USED FOR ALL PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE THE PARK, WE JUST NEED SOMETHING SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN FEEL HOPE. I

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MR. SLATTERY. MIKE SLATTERY. MY NAME IS MIKE SLATTERY. I LIVE AT 2064 SOUTHWEST. MR. STEWART, FLORIDA. I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF PROJECT LIFT, AND I'M JUST. I'M A FAIRLY NEW EMPLOYEE. I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN MONTHS, BUT I CAN JUST GIVE YOU TESTIMONY OF WHAT I'VE SEEN. THAT HOW THAT PROJECT LIFT CHANGES LIVES OF YOUNG KIDS. AND I THINK THE FUTURE OF STEWART AND MARTIN COUNTY IS THE YOUTH. AND IF WE DON'T GRAB AHOLD OF THEM NOW AND LET THEM GO DOWN THE WRONG PATH, WE GOT TO KEEP THEM ON THE RIGHT PATH AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE AND A LITTLE BIT OF TRAINING TO HELP THEM HAVE A CAREER AND BE A GOOD CITIZENS FOR MARTIN COUNTY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, HE WAS GLAD TO GET HIS SECOND CRACK AT THE BAT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PROJECT LIFT DOES. IT'S GIVEN THESE KIDS A SECOND CRACK AT THE BAT, AND THEY'RE NOT ALL INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY KIDS THAT HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EVERYBODY HAS. AND THIS IS A CHANCE TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THEM ON THE RIGHT PATH. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOLD ON. I MISSED IT. HERE. THERE THANK YOU. MR. MR. BLAIR. WICKSTROM. HI, I'M BLAIR

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NOW, THIS ORGANIZATION UPLIFT. IT'S NOT JUST FOR OUR STUDENTS HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY. IT'S OPEN TO THE WHOLE STATE. WELL THE TRUTH OF IT SO IS BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THE REALITY IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE OPEN TO ANYBODY AS WELL. BUT PROJECT LIFT IS GOING TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 16 STUDENTS AT A TIME. THOSE THE REASON THAT THEY WANT TO BE IN THE LOCATION THEY'RE IN IS BECAUSE EVEN IN PALM CITY, THE KIDS THAT THEY HAVE ARE COMING FROM OUR AREA. AND SO THEY WANT TO THEY WANT TO GO TO WHERE THE KIDS ARE, NOT MAKE THE KIDS COME TO THEM. THAT'S RIGHT. SO AND I'LL LET THEM TALK TO IT MORE. AND THAT'S THE INTENTION FOR THE NEXT. THE NEXT, I JUST WANT TO I'M NOT I'M NOT PREJUDICED, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE IT'S OUR KIDS. BECAUSE 51 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE AND I SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE KIDS FROM FORT PIERCE CAME DOWN INTO OUR LITTLE CITY. AND THE PROBLEM WE HAD, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE, YOU KNOW, 51 YEARS, I GO TO ALL THE MEETINGS ON 10TH STREET AND THAT IT'S ALWAYS, OH, IT'S FOR THE KIDS. AND EASTER, EASTER AND EASTER. BUT YOU COME DOWN TO IT. NOTHING. MY KIDS AREN'T GETTING, THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU PEOPLE. YOU'RE MUCH BETTER EDUCATED THAN I AM. I JUST IT'S THE UNDERDOG.

I DON'T MIND PAYING TAXES, BUT THESE ARE MY KIDS. I'VE WATCHED THEM FROM KINDERGARTEN. I'VE GOT THEIR GROWN UP NOW. I'M WATCHING THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THE KIDS IN STUART ARE TAKEN CARE OF. AND AND I'M THE TAXPAYER. $1.4 MILLION WAS A LOT OF MONEY AND A DOLLAR A YEAR, IT'D BE THE TUITION IS FREE THEN. YES IT'S ALL FREE. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT CHARGING.

ESPECIALLY THE KIDS IN. STUART, ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY, MOM. HE RANG THE BELL. I NEED TO GIVE

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THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER THERE, A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS NOTIFICATION STUFF. THE SPIRIT OF NOTIFICATION, NOT THE LEGAL. NOT. OH, WE JUST CHECKED THE BO. WE TALKED TO THE PUBLIC. WE TALKED TO EAST STUART. WE'RE ONE MEETING. YOU GUYS COULDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE ZONING CHANGES UP HERE. WE'RE NOT CONFUSING EVERYBODY. ONE MEETING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOW YOU'RE DOING THAT. WE JUST WANT ECONOMIC JUSTICE. WE WANT INPUT. WE WANT THE CITY TO HALT ALL THESE PROJECTS AND LET US GET SOME TRUE INPUT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. THANK YOU. MR. CHRISTIE. I THINK THIS SAYS FRANK MCCRYSTAL. THE ONLY PERSON HAS WORSE HANDWRITING THAN YOU IS ME. I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK. THIS THIS ISN'T ABOUT. COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? MY NAME IS. I THOUGHT YOU DID. FRANK MCCRYSTAL, CITY OF STUART. THIS ISN'T ABOUT HOW GREAT OF OPERATION PROJECT LIFT IS AND WHAT GREAT THINGS IT DOES FOR THE KIDS. NOT MANY OF THEM KNOW REALLY. THE NUMBERS ARE LO.

IT REALLY IS ABOUT WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FOR YEARS AND YEARS IS THE PEOPLE OF EAST STUART REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A REAL VOICE AS TO WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. AND I THINK THEY DESERVE THAT. I THINK THEY DESERVE NOT A FULL VOICE, BUT AT LEAST A PARTIAL VOICE. AND AGAIN, THINGS KIND OF HAPPEN AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU YOU'D RATHER ASK FOR FORGIVENESS

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IT'S JUST ABOUT DO THE PEOPLE OF EAST STUART REALLY HAVE A VOICE AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD? THANK YOU. AND CHRISTIE. FROM. COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, MISS CHRISTIE. GOOD EVENING. AND, CHRISTIE, I AM A PROPERTY OWNER HERE IN EAST STUART. I 815 NASSAU. SO I THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR LATE IN THE EVENING. IT'S LATE IN THE EVENING FOR YOU TAKING THE TIME OUT TO HEAR THE CITIZENS HERE. SO WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO STOP GENTRIFICATION IN EAST STUART, IF WE DO NOT TAKE A STAND ON GENTRIFICATION, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE, BE AN ACCELERATED PLACE. WE WANT TO BUILD WEALTH FOR THE HISTORIC CITIZENS OF EAST STUART, AND WE NEED TO SPUR OUR CITIZENS TO DREAM AND GROW OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE OUR WEALTH THROUGH BUSINESSES, STOCKS, REAL ESTATE, AND INVESTMENTS. ET CETERA, WE WANT TO PRESERVE A SAFE, ENJOYABLE SPACE IN EAST STUART THAT PRIORITIZES THE INTERESTS AND NEED TO HAVE ITS OWN PLANS AND MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES. LOVED ONES, AND ALSO HAVE A PLAN FOR NATURAL DISASTERS SUCH AS HURRICANES, FIRES AND ETC. YES, I WAS READING THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO OFF ON MY OWN TANGENT. SO LONG STORY SHORT, THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT WILLIE GARY PROPERTY, LIKE I SAID, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER HERE AND HAVE SEEN THAT PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS FUNCTIONING WITH THE STORE AND THE GAS STATION, A LAUNDROMAT, THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE THERE. DO I WANT TO SEE THE YOUTH HAVE OPPORTUNITIES? ABSOLUTELY. THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OFFERS THAT UP UNTIL THE AGE OF 22. OKAY. SO THERE'S A LOT ALREADY IN THE AREA THAT'S DESIGNED TO HELP OUR YOUTH. WE JUST NEED TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS CHRISTIE. RUDOLF JAMISON, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY GOOD. THANK YOU, I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN STUART. AND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ARE GREAT. BUT JUST LIKE JAMIE SAID. BUT OUR KIDS, WHEN YOU BUILD THEM WITH OUR KIDS, BE HERE TO ENJOY THEM. I HEAR NOW WE HAVE THIS EAST, STUART, WE'RE GOING TO BE HISTORIC. THAT'S GREAT FOR THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO STAY HERE.

WHAT ABOUT THE ONES WHEN YOU'RE WHEN THE TAX MONEY GOES UP, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING PEOPLE OUT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HELPING THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE EAST STUART I GREW UP IN. IF YOU LOOK NOW, YOU SEE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN STUART I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, BUT THEY'RE THERE NOW, WHICH IS FINE, WHICH IS FINE. BUT I MEAN, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE IN EAST STUART. IT IS OUR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, IT WAS A TIME WHEN YOU GUYS WOULDN'T EVEN COME IN EAST STUART, BUT NOW YOU WANT EAST STUART. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

NOW YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO. YOU PRETTY MUCH WANT TO TAKE IT. BUT YOU USE DIFFERENT WORDS. YOU KNOW IT USED TO BE EMINENT DOMAIN NOW HISTORIC. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO ALL THAT SOUNDS GREAT. AND THIS NEW PROJECT THAT WE'RE BUILDING LIKE THAT NEW BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THE YMCA, THE YMCA THAT WE HAVE OUR BLACK KIDS DON'T GO THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WELCOME THERE. AND I'M JUST KEEPING IT REAL, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL KIDS, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOOD, BUT WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL KIDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I GREW UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN GREW UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO TAKE IT FROM US WHEN YOU CAN JUST COME IN AND YOU KNOW, GOD TELLS US TO COME TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS, TO TREAT EACH OTHER THE WAY WE WANT TO BE TREATED. SO IF I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE MY CHILD, I'M GOING TO TREAT YOU JUST LIKE MY CHILD.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE RESPECT AND THE LOVE THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW MY CHILDREN. I'M NOT GOING TO PUSH YOU TO THE SIDE BECAUSE YOU'RE POOR, BECAUSE GOD SAID, WE'RE GOING TO ALWAYS BE SURROUNDED BY POOR. THEY WILL ALWAYS BE PRESENT. NOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THEM? ARE WE GOING TO JUST TURN AND SAY, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LIFE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOUR CHILD STARVE. I DON'T CARE.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO TO FEED YOUR FAMILY. YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO TO FEED YOUR. IF I'M KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AND I SEE ALL THIS FOOD IN HERE AND I'M BEING NICE, I'M KNOCKING, PLEASE LET ME IN. LET ME GET SOMETHING TO EAT. YOU IGNORE ME. I'M KNOCKING HARD I'M TRYING TO GET LOUDER I'M SINGING SONGS. PLEASE LET ME IN. YOU IGNORE ME. YOU THINK I'M GONNA KEEP KNOCKING NOW I'M TRYING TO PICK THE LOCK. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FOOD

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AND, I KEEP HEARING, YOU KNOW, VOCATIONAL, VOCATIONAL, VOCATIONAL PROJECT LIFT IS NOT A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, BUT WE DO USE VOCATION TO REPLACE NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR. WE ARE A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE DEAL WITH THE TRAUMA THAT MOST YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH TRAUMA. 30% OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT'S GOING TO COLLEGE. SO THAT MEANS 70% ARE NOT. SO WHAT ARE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE GOING TO DO? 70% OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES ARE NOT GOING TO COLLEGE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY TO HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN EAST STUART TO NOT, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THEIR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, DEAL WITH THEIR TRAUMAS, DEAL WITH BEHAVIORS SO THEY CAN OBTAIN A JOB IF THEY DON'T GO TO COLLEGE, IT'S EASIER TO GET A JOB. BUT TO KEEP THAT JOB, YOU GOT TO BE MENTALLY STABLE. 80% OF JOB LOSS IS DUE TO SOME FORM OF MENTAL HEALTH, AND I JUST THANK PROJECT LOVE PERSONALLY FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO THOSE WHO KNOW ME AND KNOW MY BACKGROUND. OPPORTUNITY ONLY KNOCKS MAYBE ONCE, MAYBE TWICE, AND THAT'S IT. AND IF YOU DON'T SEIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY OR HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE ME THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN EAST STUART CAN LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, TO DEAL WITH, BEEN THERE, DONE THAT TO HELP THEM GO THROUGH. BUT ME, I CAN PERSONALLY SAY I'M HERE FOR EAST STUART, THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN EAST STUART. I CAN'T SAY WHAT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ARE DOING, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT WHAT PROJECT LIFT IS DOING, THE IMPACT AND WHAT WE DO. WE PAY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE A STIPEND TO ALLEVIATE THAT GENERATIONAL POVERTY, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEM USED TO GETTING A PAYCHECK. WE TEACHING THEM SOFT SKILLS, HOW TO OPEN BANKING ACCOUNT, GET THEIR, DRIVER'S LICENSE, BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS. SO WE ARE HERE TO HELP AND NOT TO HURT. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IT'S MR. ZACCHEO. IS IT, MISS? MR. MAYOR? MRS. ZACCHEO, WHEN YOU SPEAK, CAN YOU DEFINE YOUNG PEOPLE? SURE. THAT AGE RANGE. YEAH. NO PROBLEM. AND YOU KNOW MY HISTORY. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH THIS PLACE MEANS TO ME, WE WORK WITH 14 AND 19 YEAR OLDS THROUGH SEVERAL OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO 8:00 IN THE MORNING, IT STARTS. THIS IS NOT A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, SO PLEASE DON'T DO NOT CONFUSE THIS. THIS IS THE THIS IS A REAL

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SOMEONE'S STEALING FROM ME. THIS PERSON NAMED SUDHA, THIS PERSON NAMED FICA, THEY'RE TAKING MY MONEY. THAT AM I? IT'S THE TRUTH. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. AND THEN WE WALK IN. THEY'RE STILL THERE STEALING FROM ME. AND THEN I GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? NO. THIS IS THIS IS WHERE IT'S AT. OR VIC DOES IT. OR ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS AND THEY GO, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHO THAT IS.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS. RIGHT. AND LET ME TELL YOU HOW THIS ALL WORKS. AND THEN THEY LEARN TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND, AND ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS SAY, HOW DO THEY PAY TO BE THERE? I HAVE NEVER, EVER CHARGED A PERSON TO COME INTO PROJECT LIFT, EVER. AND I NEVER WILL. I NEVER WILL EVER. I RAISE THAT MONEY FOR ALL THE OPERATIONAL SUPPORT TO BE POURED INTO OUR COMMUNITY. I GREW UP THERE, I SAID TO VIC. I WHISPERED TO HIM, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I SPENT MY SOMEONE SAID THEY SPENT THEIR WHOLE LIFE IN EAST STUART. I DID TOO, I DID TOO, THAT'S WHY I CARE SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT? I LOVE YOU GUYS. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE AND ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO. AND THIS STAFF HAS WORKED TREMENDOUSLY HARD TO GET THIS TO WHERE IT IS.

SO I APPRECIATE THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU THANK YOU, THANK YOU MR. ZACCHEO. OKAY. BUT THE ISSUE BEFORE US IS THE ZONING CHANGE. SO BY THE WAY, MOTION FOR NUMBER 2532 DASH 2024 TO BE MOVED FORWARD TO THE NEXT AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? JIMMY WILSON, I DID HE DID FILL OUT ONE. YES OH, I DON'T SEE IT. I'M SORRY. OKAY WE'RE GOING. YEAH I TURNED IN EVERYTHING I HAD SO I'M NOT SURE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MR. WILSON? OKAY. JUST JACKIE MOORE, JACKIE SPOKE. NO, NO, NO. OKAY. SORRY JACKIE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. HI, EVERYONE DOING. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TODAY? HI, EVERYBODY. YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW PEOPLE. MY NAME IS JIMMY WILSON. I'M FROM STUART, AND I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE ALL MY LIFE. AND I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT DEALS WITH THE YOUTH. I'M THE ONLY PERSON FROM EAST STUART THAT HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS WITH THE YOUTH AND ALL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE IN EAST STUART. NOBODY HAS DONE IT LONGER THAN ME. AND I'M STILL DOING IT NOW. I MOSTLY DEALT WITH TEENAGERS, BUT I REALIZED WE HAD TO START YOUNG, SO NOW I'M DEALING WITH NINE YEAR OLDS, SO I'M STARTING FROM THAT AREA. AND I'VE TALKED TO MR. VICKERS ABOUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING, AND BY ME DEALING WITH THE YOUTH, MOSTLY THE BLACK MALES OF EAST STUART, AND USUALLY BECAUSE I DEAL WITH ONES WHO DON'T HAVE FATHERS, WE TRY TO GET THE FATHERS WHEN THEY GET OUT TO GET BACK WITH THE KIDS AND WE GIVE THEM CERTAIN TYPE OF THINGS SO HE CAN GET BACK WITH HIS FAMILY AND GET BACK WITH HIS KIDS AND BE IN HIS KIDS LIFE. I MOSTLY DEAL WITH THE GUYS OR THE MALES

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PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. NOW, YOU START. HI, MY NAME IS JACKIE GORE. I LIVE AT 14 SOUTHEAST LAKE STREET, WHICH IS A SECOND HOME THROUGH WHICH, MY HUSBAND AND I OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THE CHURCH IN EAST STUART. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, SEE US GET MORE INFORMATION. I HAPPEN TO JUST FIND THAT FIND OUT THIS INFORMATION THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. I WAS LIKE, THIS IS NOT GOOD. THE INFORMATION IS NOT GETTING OUT IN EAST STUART. I'M TELLING YOU, USUALLY WHEN THEY COME AND THROW SOMETHING AT OUR CHURCH, I MAKE SURE ALL THE CHURCHES GET IT SO THEY CAN ANNOUNCE IT, BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE THERE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS. BUT, FOR PROJECT LIFT, MAKE NO MISTAKE, I DON'T BITE MY TONGUE. AMEN, I'M FOR PROJECT LIFT, AND I LIKE TO SEE MORE THAN 16 FOOT ANOTHER BUILDING U. OH, YOU SAID SIX. I THOUGHT YOU SAID 20. YEAH, 16. OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. ALRIGHT, OKAY. YEAH, YOU CAN DO BETTER. WE CAN DO BETTER. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M FOR YOU AND I KNOW HOW IT IS. AND WITH I COMING, A LOT OF OUR KIDS DON'T KNOW COMPUTERS. SO A TRADE WILL BE GOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND, WE HAD A CUB SCOUT ONE TIME IN EAST STUART AND, BUT HE GOT SICK AND, YOU KNOW, BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS AND, AND, WE WAS TREAT WE WAS, HE LET SOMEONE GOT ON A RIDING LAWNMOWER AND THIS WAS AN ADULT, AND THIS PERSON WAS RIDING THIS LAWNMOWER. AND MY HUSBAND STOOD THERE AND HE SAID, LORD HAVE MERCY. AND HE SAID, YOU DIDN'T HE? HE THOUGHT HE WAS MOWING THE YARD, BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN PUT THE BLADE DOWN. AND THAT'S HOW THESE KIDS ARE NOT TRAINED. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING BECAUSE MOST OF THEIR PARENTS ARE LOCKED UP. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I'M FOR IT. Y'ALL CAN CALL ON ME ANYTIME IF YOU NEED SOME EXTRA HELP, VOLUNTEER, HELP, WHATEVER IT TAKES, I'M FOR IT. SO YOU'RE SAYING 60 INSTEAD OF 16? I'M ALRIGHT WITH THAT NOW. GOD BLESS YOU. YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU SAY TO BOB, YOU CAN CALL ON ME BECAUSE. CLAMBAKE ANY ANYBODY ELSE? CAN WE GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER CLARK'S MOTION? ORDINANCE NUMBER 25, 32, 2024. MOVE FOR VOTES. AT THIS TIME. IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL STILL MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE A VOTE ON SOME OF. ALL RIGHT. SO NOBODY WANTS A SECOND.

NO VOTE WILL BE TAKEN. SO WE'LL JUST GO FORWARD TO THE NEXT HEARING. YEAH. IT'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD. IT'S MET THE LEGAL STANDARD THAT IT HAS BEEN READ FOR A PUBLIC MEETING. SO IT WILL COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER NINTH FOR THE BALANCE OF THE HEARING. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING IT SO EASY FOR MY FIRST MEETING AS MAYOR. BUT ABSENT ANY OTHER ITEMS, THIS ME

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