[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STAND. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. OKAY. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OH, I DID. SORRY, I DID THAT. IT'S OKAY. CHAIR. LORRAINE. HERE VICE CHAIR. FORBES. HERE BOARD MEMBER. BRUMFIELD. BOARD MEMBER. MATHERS. BOARD MEMBER. PETERSEN. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. STRUM. HERE [APPROVAL OF AGENDA] ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? ALTHOUGH WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST TO CHANGE AN AGENDA ITE, WE ARE HAVE HAD A REQUEST TO SWITCH THE THIRD AGENDA ITEM UP TO THE SECOND OR ACTION ITEM SHOULD SAY THE SECOND. THE THIRD ACTION ITEM UP TO THE SECOND. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? NO. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ANYBODY WANT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] GOOD. OKAY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE LAST LPA. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ANY DISCUSSION? MOVE APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I. FANTASTIC. OKAY. COMMENTS FROM [COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)] THE PUBLIC. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I HAVE NONE, CHAIR. OKAY, GREAT, COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS. THE ONLY COMMENT I WILL MAKE IS THAT I AM CURRENTLY UNDERGOING BREAST CANCER. THAT'S WHY I WAS NOT HERE LAST MONTH, BECAUSE I HAD TO HAVE MAJOR SURGERY. I STARTED CHEMO THIS WEEK, SO I WILL BE HERE AS LONG AS I POSSIBLY CAN. IF FOR SOME REASON I START FEELING UNWELL. MY LOVELY VICE CHAIR WILL TAKE OVER. OKAY, GREAT. LET'S GO. ACTION ITEM [3. 2300 S.E. OCEAN BOULEVARD - STARBUCKS AT OCEAN EAST MALL MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PETITION: (RC) RESOLUTION No. 97-2024; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, GRANTING A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PETITION FOR THE STARBUCKS AT OCEAN EAST MALL LOCATED AT 2300 SE OCEAN BOULEVARD, AS DESCRIBED WITHIN THE ATTACHED LEGAL DESCRIPTION; GRANTING RELIEF TO DEVIATE FROM REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS, MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE, LOCATION OF PARKING, AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE S.E. OCEAN BOULEVARD OVERLAY ZONE STANDARDS OUTLINED UNDER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 3.03.00; REQUIRING CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS TO BE CONSIDERED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] NUMBER THREE. I GUESS. DO YOU WANT TO READ IT OR DO YOU WANT TO READ? OKAY. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, LEE BAGGETT, CITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 97. DASH 2024, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, GRANTING A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PETITION FOR THE STARBUCKS AT OCEAN EAST MALL, LOCATED AT 2300 SOUTH EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, AS DESCRIBED WITHIN THE ATTACHED LEGAL DESCRIPTION, GRANTING RELIEF TO DEVIATE FROM REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACKS, MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE, LOCATION OF PARKING, AND LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD OVERLAY ZONE STANDARDS OUTLINED UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 3.0, 3.00, REQUIRING CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS TO BE CONSIDERED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? OKAY. FANTASTIC ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CHRIS MCGRANE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, SUBMITTED BY KIMLEY-HORN. AND ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, OCEAN EAST CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC, FOR A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PETITION FOR THE PROJECT TO BE KNOWN AS STARBUCKS AT OCEAN EAST MALL. SO THE 11.24 ACRE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2300 SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD AND FRONTS THE RIGHT OF WAY OF SOCIAL SERVICE. SOUTHEASTERN EXCUSE ME, SOUTH EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH, WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO THE WEST AND SOUTH, THERE IS A MOBILE GAS STATION, REDEEMER LUTHERAN CHURCH, THE BARN THEATER, AND THE EAST OCEAN GARDENS CONDOMINIUM TO THE EAST. WHAT IN THE WORLD? MORSE CODE. I KNOW, LIKE, WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM, THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 70S AS A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING PLAZA AND CURRENTLY INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 1000, I'M SORRY, 118,252FT■!S OF BUILDING AREA WH AROUND 100 OR 520 ASSOCIATED PARKING STALLS AND LANDSCAPING, PURSUANT TO PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED UNDER SECTION 11.02 .05 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ON AUGUST 27TH, 2024, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL, AND TO PROVIDE DETAIL OF THE REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE PETITION AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING, IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT POSTED A PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, SO THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND PROPERTIES LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OCEAN BOULEVARD ARE DESIGNATED BY THE B1 OR BUSINESS LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT, THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST INCLUDE A MIX OF B1 AND B2 OR BUSINESS GENERAL, AND THE [00:05:09] PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST ARE DESIGNATED BY THE R-3 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY OFFICE ZONING DESIGNATION. SUBJECT PARCEL AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH EAST AND WEST ARE DESIGNATED BY THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND WEST ARE DESIGNATED BY THE PUBLIC LAND USE, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE DESIGNATED BY INSTITUTIONAL LAND USE. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. ON APRIL 29TH, 2024, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FOR A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PLAT APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED ALSO BY KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. APPROVAL FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION IS REQUIRED, ACCORDING TO SECTION 11.01 .03 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, FOR A NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER 50 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET IN BUILDING AREA, THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PLAT APPLICATIONS ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY STAFF AND PENDING A FINAL DETERMINATION OF TONIGHT'S MAJOR OR MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 11.0105, THE ISSUANCE OF A SITE PERMIT OR VERTICAL BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CONTINGENT UPON THE CITY COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF THE PLAT CONFORMING TO THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WILL BE GRANTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD OVERLAY ZONE. ON APRIL 10TH, 2000, THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED ORDINANCE ORDINANCE NUMBER 19 1719 DASH 22,000 AND AMENDED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ESTABLISH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD OVERLAY ZONE, WHICH ARE OUTLINED UNDER SECTION 11 3.03.00 OF OUR CODE. AND ON DECEMBER 20TH, 2004, THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED ORDINANCE. 2000 AND 9-04 AND AMENDED THE OVERLAY ZONE SECTION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE EXCEPTION PROCESS TO BE CONSIDERED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL AND FAMILY MULTIFAMILY SECTION OF THE SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD OVERLAY ZONE. AND YOU CAN NOTICE THE PROPERTY HERE IN RED. WITH THE 11.24 ACRE SITE KNOWN AS OCEAN EAST MALL, WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 70S AS A SHOPPING PLAZA AND CURRENTLY INCLUDES THE 118,000FT■!S OF BUILDING AREA, TYPICALLY FOR THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE GROCERY, RETAIL, SHIPPING, AND POSTAGE, HAIR AND BEAUTY, OFFICE AND MEDICAL, UPON SUBDIVISION OF THE 11.24 ACRE SITE, THE REMAINING 10.59 ACRES WILL RETAIN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AND APPROXIMATELY 492 PARKING SPACES. AS IS ALSO REQUIRED, AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS A LEGAL AGREEMENT WITH HIS PLAZA TENANTS THAT HE HAS A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE TENANTS, THE REMAINING 0.7 ACRE PARCEL, WHICH WOULD BE THE FUTURE OUT PARCEL IN RED, WILL BE DEVELOPED FOR A PROPOSED 2767 SQUARE FOOT STARBUCKS COFFEE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THRU SERVICE SERVICES AND A COVERED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA, ASSOCIATED PARKING, REFUSE COLLECTION AND ON SITE LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, THE 7.7 ACRE SITE WILL ALLOW FOR THE ROUGHLY 2700 SQUARE FOOT DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT WITH, WHICH IS INCLUSIVE OF A 500 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR COVERED SEATING AREA, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE ADJACENT RIGHT OF WAY. ASSOCIATED OFF STREET PARKING, REFUSE COLLECTION AREA, AND DEDICATED FIRE AND VEHICULAR BYPASS LANE. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FOUR REQUESTS FOR CONDITIONAL USE NOW. AND STARTING WITH NUMBER ONE, UNDER 3.03.02, SUBSECTION B1, STATES THAT BUILDINGS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY SECTION OF THIS OVERLAY ZONE ARE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ADJACENT TO THE STREET ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, WITH A SETBACK OF NOT LESS THAN TEN FEET AND ALSO THE WIDTH OF THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING SHALL NOT BE LESS THAN 50% OF THE LOT WIDTH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING WITH A 64.2FT SETBACK FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY BOUNDARY ADJACENT [00:10:01] TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED BUILDING WITH TO BE APPROXIMATELY 27% OF THE PARCEL WIDTH, AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRING A MINIMUM WIDTH OF 50%, THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN 20 2022 AND DOES NOT. THE OWNER DOES NOT INTEND TO REDEVELOP THE SITE AT THIS TIME, AND HAS DECIDED TO INSTEAD REVITALIZE THE SITE, HE'S CURRENTLY UPDATING THE BUILDING FACADES. ADDING ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENTS AND RETROFITTING THE SIGNAGE, AND DUE TO THE EXISTING BUILDING PLACEMENTS, ON SOUTHEAST OCEAN OF THE SOUTHEAST OCEAN. EAST MALL AND THE ADJACENT CHURCH GAS STATION OFFICE BUILDING AND RETAIL PLAZA. STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO INCREASE THE BUILDING SETBACK FROM OCEAN BOULEVARD, AND DUE TO THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH THE QUEUING AND VEHICULAR PATTERNS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE OUT PARCEL. THE APPLICANT IS UNABLE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE OVERLOAD OVERLAY ZONE. SO COMBINING THESE SITE CONSTRAINTS AND THE EXISTING BUILDING PLACEMENT ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, STAFF IS SUPPORTING THIS DEVIATION, AND I JUST PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE EXHIBIT JUST TO SHOW THE EXISTING SETBACKS FOR THE BUILDINGS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE BUILDING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, STAFF WOULD LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IF THE ENTIRE SITE WAS BEING REDEVELOPED, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE HAS BEEN ONE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS ENTIRE OVERLAY ZONE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, AND THAT WAS IN 2022, IT'S OVER IN THE OTHER SECTION OF THIS OVERLAY, WHICH IS THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SECTION CLOSER TO PALM BEACH ROAD. THERE'S A NEW BUILDING BEING CONSTRUCTED, WHICH MEETS THE INTENT OF THE CODE, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WAS A VACANT PROPERTY, BEING REDEVELOPED, I BELIEVE THERE WAS EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE SITE THAT WERE BUILT BACK IN, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK IN THE DAY, AND THEY ENDED UP DEMOLISHING THOSE. AND REBUILDING THE SITE, THE OTHER REQUEST THAT IS, BEING PROPOSED. SECTION 3.0, 3.02, REQUIRES THAT 25% OF THE PARKING AREA OR ONE ROW OF PARKING MAY BE LOCATED BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE AND THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT ALL OF THE PARKING MAY BE LOCATED OR MUST BE LOCATED BETWEEN BEHIND THE REAR BUILDING OR AT THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES. IN ADDITION, IT REQUIRES THAT THE PARKING BE SHIELDED BY LANDSCAPING. SO THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING PLACEMENT AND SOME OF THEIR SITE CONSTRAINTS, THEY'RE REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM THIS TO LOCATE EIGHT PARKING STALLS BETWEEN THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND THE BUILDING FACADE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 42.1%, OR IT DOES EQUATE TO ONE ROW OF PARKING. SO, WITH THE OTHER 11 PARKING STALLS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 57.9%. SO THIS IS THE SECOND REQUEST, WHICH IS SIMILAR. BASICALLY A REQUEST BECAUSE OF THE FIRST REQUEST. THE STAFF FEELS THAT THESE THESE TWO REQUESTS ARE KIND OF TIED TOGETHER, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS, ALTHOUGH I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT IT'S REALLY NOT A REQUEST IN THE SENSE, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD APPROVES FOR THE SETBACK, THE THIS SECTION OF THE OVERLAY ZONE REQUIRES THAT THE LANDSCAPING BE DEPENDENT OR BASED ON THE SETBACK OF THE BUILDING. SO SHOULD WE APPROVE THE SETBACK? THEY'LL MEET THAT FOR ITEM TWO. IF NOT, THEN THEY WILL MEET THE SETBACK FOR ITEM ONE, BUT WE WOULD A REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED UNDER THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. AND WE WOULD REVIEW THAT BASED ON OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND APPROVED UNDER THAT. THAT APPLICATION, THE LAST REQUIREMENT, IT REQUIRES THAT NOT MORE THAN 65% OF THE SITE BE COVERED BY IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE. UPON BUILD OUT THE 0.7 ACRE SITE WILL INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 9.1% OF BUILDING AREA, 70.2% IMPERVIOUS AREA, AND 20.6 OF IMPERVIOUS AREA OR OPEN SPACE, THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DE MINIMIS IN TERMS OF THE IMPERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS AREA CALCULATIONS, AS THE SITE CURRENTLY EXISTS, THERE'S, 79% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AND 21%, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING 70, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WITH 9% [00:15:07] BUILDING. THAT EQUATES TO THE SAME EXACT IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE THAT'S ON THE SITE TODAY, CITY OF STUART DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED THE MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE PETITION AND RECOMMENDS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, FORWARD, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO ALLOW THE PROPOSED CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH A MAXIMUM SETBACK OF 64.2FT FROM SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, AND TO REVISE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN BASED ON THE APPROVED SETBACKS, ALSO, TO DEVIATE FROM THE 65% MINIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW UP TO 42% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE AND THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, AND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 97 DASH 2024 WITH ANY CONDITIONS. THE BOARD DETERMINES. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A BRIEF PRESENTATION. OKAY. AND WE CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AFTERWARDS. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA BELT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT, I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AS WELL AS THE OWNER OF THE CENTER AS WELL. TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR MOVING US UP ON THE AGENDA. IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED, SO STAFF'S PRESENTATION WAS VERY THOROUGH AND VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER, SO I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO AS JEFF MENTIONED, THIS IS THE AERIAL AGAIN TO SHOW THE PROPOSED. THIS IS FOR A PROPOSED STARBUCKS. IT'S NOT FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, BUT IT'S FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2300 OCEAN BOULEVARD. AS STAFF MENTIONED, AS SHOWN IN THE HATCHED AREA ON THIS ON THIS AERIAL, IT'S IN WITHIN THE B ONE ZONING DISTRICT WITH A FUTURE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE. AS STAFF ALSO TOUCHED ON, THIS ISN'T AN OLD EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER THAT THIS IS A PART OF. SO THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH OUR DESIGN HEAVILY BECAUSE IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAINTAIN THE FLOW AND CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THIS OUT PARCEL WITH THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT. A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THIS PRESENTATION, I WANTED TO SHOW, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT AT THE, RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER ELEVATIONS, WHICH YOU ALL MAY YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE OF AND HAVE SEEN OFTEN. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PROPOSED RENDERINGS OF THE ELEVATION THAT ARE THAT'S HAPPENING NOW. SO THE OWNER HAS MADE IS MAKING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS CENTER TO REALLY BRIGHTEN IT UP AND REFRESHING IT AND MAKE IT A NICE, VERY VISUAL, SHOPPING CENTER FOR THE CITY. AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME MORE ELEVATIONS TO REALLY SHOW WHAT THE EXISTING LOOKED LIKE AND HOW IT WAS VERY DATED AND HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO COME IN SINCE HE'S OWNED IT SINCE 2022 AND MADE THESE CHANGES TO REALLY MAKE IT LOOK NICE. AND I WANTED TO SHARE THESE BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO SHARE THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED RENDERING OF THE STARBUCKS. I WANT TO SHOW THAT THERE IS COHESIVENESS BETWEEN THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AND THIS PROPOSED STARBUCKS WITH THE LOOK, OF IT AS WELL, NOT JUST FOR TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE OVERALL LOOK, IT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE PROPOSED STARBUCKS WILL HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE, SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. THERE'S 500FT■!S OF COVERED OUTDOOR SEATING. THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 5:30 A.M. TO 9 P.M, WITH 25 EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE HIRED IN STARBUCKS. AS YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME. THERE IS A STARBUCKS WITHIN THE CITY IS A PART OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WHERE. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THESE ARE VERY COHESIVE AS FAR AS THE CONDITIONAL USE AND WHY WE NEED THOSE WAIVERS. OH, SORRY. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER HAS A NORTH TO SOUTH, DRIVE PATTERN THROUGH IT WITH ONE WAY TRAFFIC. SO WHEN WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT OUR DESIGN, WE MADE SURE THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT WITH THAT TO ENSURE VEHICULAR CONNECTIVITY AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR SAFETY, NOT ONLY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING, BUT ALSO OF THE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE WALKING. WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN, GET YOUR COFFEE AND MOVE THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER TO EXIT. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE ARE NO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO OUR PARCEL. EVERYTHING IS THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER. JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT, THE THERE IS THE LIGHTED INTERSECTION THERE. SO CUSTOMERS WOULD COME THROUGH THE [00:20:05] LIGHTED INTERSECTION AND ENTER THE SITE THROUGH HERE. OR THEY COULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND ENTER THROUGH HERE. AND THEN THERE. ALSO THERE'S THE EXISTING CONNECTION OVER TO THIS SIDE WHERE THEY WOULD COME THROUGH AND RUN PARALLEL TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD AND ENTER HERE AGAIN, JUST TOUCHING ON THAT, THAT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO ENTER IS THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER. THE FLOW THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER, AS I MENTIONED, RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH THIS WAY, WHICH IS EXACTLY SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, IS THE EXACT PATTERN OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. AND THE REASON I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT WAS JUST BECAUSE, AS HE MENTIONED WITH THOSE WAIVERS, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN AS WELL AS, THE PLACEMENT OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. IT ALSO, THE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THIS BUILDING HAS TO DO WITH THE SITE CIRCULATION THROUGH THE SITE, WHICH IS THE FIRST WAIVER REQUEST THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT HE MENTIONED. THAT REALLY TRIGGERED THE OTHER WAIVER REQUEST THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SETBACK AND THE FRONTAGE ALONG OCEAN BOULEVARD. AS MENTIONED, WE'RE REQUESTING 62 64.2FT FOR THE SETBACK. AND REALLY THE CODE WOULD THE OVERLAY CODE WOULD REQUIRE IT TO BE RIGHT ALONG HERE, ADJACENT TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. IF WE WERE TO MEET THE SETBACK AND THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OVERLAY, THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY ROTATED WITH THE FRONTAGE COMPLETELY ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN, PARALLEL TO SOUTHEAST OCEAN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ACCESS TO TRAVEL EAST TO WEST. SO IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY PERPENDICULAR TO THE EXISTING FLOW WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH WOULD CAUSE CONFLICTS WITH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIANS. THIS IS THE SAME IMAGES THAT YOU SAW WITH STAFF'S STAFF'S REPORT, BUT THIS IS THE SECOND WAIVER REQUEST, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. THE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE LESS THAN 65% OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, NO MORE THAN LESS THAN 65%. AND WE DO NOT MEET THAT. BUT AS IT WAS STATED, THIS IS AN EXISTING PAVED, JUST PARKING LOT THAT'S REALLY VACANT. AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE. SO WE'RE NOT DECREASING THE PERVIOUS WE'RE KEEPING IT CONSISTENT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE WORKED WITH STAFF JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THIS, AND SOMETHING THAT, WE HAVE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO DO IS ADD PERMEABLE, PERMEABLE ASPHALT TO THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE, ALONG. HERE AND HERE AS WELL AS SOME OFFSITE PERMEABLE PAVEMENT HERE TO MEET THE 65% REQUIREMENT. SO THEREFORE WE WOULD NOT TECHNICALLY NEED TO REQUEST THIS WAIVER. AND AS THE LAST, ONE OF THE LAST WAIVER REQUESTS IS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PARKING TO BE ALONG, OCEAN BOULEVARD. AGAIN, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING AND WHERE THE PARKING NEEDS TO BE LOCATED. WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. THEY HAVE PARKING AS WELL, ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF OCEAN EAST BOULEVARD. AND SO WE ARE JUST ASKING TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THIS. WITH THAT. AND ALTHOUGH AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT ASKING TECHNICALLY FOR ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPE WAIVER OR SORRY, WE ARE TECHNICALLY ASKING FOR IT, BUT WE ARE MEETING WE WILL MEET THE CODE. WE WILL MAKE SURE IT'S PROVIDED, AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORE THAN WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES. AND SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AND JUST SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT THE OWNER IS INVESTING INTO THIS PROPERTY TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS THE EXISTING. OH GOSH, I KEEP DOING THAT. THE BATTERIES ARE DYING. YEAH. SORRY THIS IS THE EXISTING, CORNER WHERE THE LIGHTED INTERSECTION IS AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE. THERE'S NO THE BUFFER ISN'T VERY TALL. IT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, LO. THE SHRUBS ARE KIND OF SPARSE. SO WE'RE PROPOSING NEW SHRUBS. THIS IS THE NEW SHRUBS, SOME FLOWERING UNDERSTORY TREES, WHICH IS CODE REQUIREMENT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE NOT JUST THE CODE REQUIREMENT MORE IN ADDITION TO THAT. SO I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE PLANT MATERIALS, THE CRAPE MYRTLE, THE FLOWERING TREE UNDERSTORY TREES AND SOME OF THE SHRUBS. AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER SLIDE. I THINK, I DIDN'T GET IT. IT DIDN'T GET IN THERE IN TIME. BUT, WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PROVIDE LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET BACK TO THIS. HERE ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN WILL CARRY THAT [00:25:01] SAME PLANT MATERIAL PALETTE OUT TO MAKE IT VERY CONSISTENT ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD. SO AGAIN, TO BRING THAT COHESIVENESS WITH THE OUT PARCEL AND THE OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER. THAT CONCLUDES OUR MY PRESENTATION. AND AGAIN WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I DO NOT. OKAY. FROM THE BOARD. NOW DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK? OKAY SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS WITH THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S IN THE FACILITY THAT YOU NEED, THAT I THINK YOU, CHRIS, HAD SAID THAT IS REQUIRED BY YOUR OTHER TENANTS. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR YOU TO BUILD OUT FUTURE OUT PARCELS? NO. SO THERE'S NO NOT ENOUGH PARKING. NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE KIND OF SEA BETWEEN THAT AND THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE. AND SO ONCE WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE, IT COULD CONTINUE TO CASCADE DOWN, KNOW THE AGREEMENTS THAT THE OWNER HAS IN PLACE. WE ARE RIGHT. HE NEEDS TO HAVE A 4.5 PARKING RATIO. AND WE WERE RIGHT AT 4.5 WITH THIS PROPOSED STARBUCKS. SO THERE WOULD BE NO NOTHING FURTHER THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OKAY, SO THERE IS NO THREAT THAT WE'RE JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S SAYING TEN FEET. BUT IF WE KEEP ALLOWING MORE AND THEN THE NEXT ONE'S GOING TO COME. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO DO PERVIOUS. SO WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE 65. SO WE CAN I GUESS I THINK WE'RE SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. OR IS THAT NOW NOT A. YEAH. LIKE HOW DOES THAT GET HANDLED AS FAR AS WHEN WE'RE VOTING WE JUST AMEND IT PER THE RECOMMENDATION. SO NOW WE ONLY HAVE THREE THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON. STILL NEED TO DO IS, AFTER THIS MEETING WE WILL WRITE UP THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD AND, AND EXPLAIN THAT AS A CONDITION OF THIS MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE, UNLESS YOU CAN, UNLESS THE APPLICANT CAN DEMONSTRATE THE 65% MAXIMUM ON THEIR SITE, THEN WE CAN'T ISSUE ANY PERMITS. SO, AND ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO ACCUMULATION OF THE TWO, BUT WE CAN WRITE THAT INTO THE CONDITIONS. AND MY STAFF REPORT WILL BE UPDATED BETWEEN THE LPA MEETING AND THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING WITH A DETAIL OF WHAT HAPPENED AT TODAY'S MEETING. SO THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THERE. OKAY FANTASTIC. OKAY, YEAH. SO I GUESS THAT WAS, THE CURRENT. SO YOU DID ANSWER. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NEW SHRUBBERY ALL THE WAY FROM LIKE THE FRESH MARKET. IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS. IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF THE STARBUCKS. I UNDERSTOOD THAT CORRECTLY. OKAY. AND THEN, I GUESS THAT WAS IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING, I GUESS IF WE'RE GOING TO THE LARGER SETBACK, WE'LL HAVE MORE SHADE TREES AND NOT JUST LOW SHRUBBERY. RIGHT. IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN THE TEN FEET AND THE WE THERE WHEN THERE WILL BE UNDERSTORY TREES, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS SHOWING THE FLOWERING TYPE TREES. SO IT'S HOLLIES, THOSE TYPE OF TREES, WE CAN'T HAVE LARGE SHADE TREES ALONG SOUTHEAST OCEAN LIKE, VERY, VERY LARGE BECAUSE OF THE POWER LINES. YEAH. BUT. AND IS THERE GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT? THERE'S THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, THE INGRESS EGRESS AND WHERE THE LIGHT IS. WILL THERE ALSO BE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THERE, OR IS IT JUST ALONG. YEAH. SO I'M SORRY. YEAH I THINK I JUST GOT THE ODOR. MY, MY PRESENTATION WAS I HAD A PLAN THAT SHOWED I CAN PULL UP THE AGENDA AND PULL UP THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. DO YOU WANT ME. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? BECAUSE IT SHOWS, SO THAT THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE IN THAT MEDIAN ISLAND WILL HAVE THE HOLLIES AND THE CRAPE MYRTLES THAT WILL CARRY ALONG THROUGH TO THE INTERNAL DRIVE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. AWESOME. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THESE CHANGES WITHIN THE EXISTING PARKING WILL NOT IMPACT THE MALL'S PARKING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED. NO. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. YOU MENTIONED SEATING OUTDOORS, BUT I COULDN'T REALLY SEE WHERE THAT WAS. IS THAT IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING OR IT IS LOCATED IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING OR NOT IN THE IN THE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THIS LOCATION? YEAH. IT'S A COVERED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA RIGHT ON THE BACK FACING THE PLAZA. SO THIS IS THE OUTDOOR SEATING ARE. I KNOW IT DIDN'T. I WASN'T OUTDATED PRESENTATION. AND I'M AND I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO THE PLANTS ARE, THIS IS THE ELEVATION OR NOT. THE ELEVATION, BUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. LANDSCAPE PLAN? YEAH. SO THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE PATIO OUT FRONT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PEDESTRIAN AND PRETTY VERSUS THE PATIO IN THE REAR. THE WINDOW FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH IS LOCATED IN THE FRONT TO MAXIMIZE QUEUING, WE NEED TO HAVE IN STACKING TO MEET STACKING REQUIREMENTS, IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST VIEW THOUGH. NO, I YEAH, WE SPENT TIME. WE SPENT TIME. OH, WAIT. COME TOATE YOUR, PARTNER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. OKAY YEAH, WE ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ACTUALLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR, MOVING IT, IT WOULD CREATE. AND WE OBVIOUSLY TALKED TO STARBUCKS ABOUT IT. HEY, COULD YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SAFETY ISSUE IF YOU MOVE THAT TO THE SIDE, THE [00:30:05] QUEUING, IF I MAY. YEAH, THIS ONE DOESN'T SHOW ALL THE CARS, BUT THIS IS OFFERING MAXIMUM POINT RIGHT. THE CARS TO ALL THE WAY AROUND HERE. WE MOVED BACK TO THE SIDE. QUEUING WOULD BE PUSHING ALL THE WAY BACK HERE. THIS IS THEIR ENTRANCE WAY AND THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE. THEY DON'T WANT CUSTOMERS WALKING THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THERE'S PEOPLE QUEUED UP, CONSTANTLY MOVING RIGHT HERE. SO THEY WANT TO DO LIKE THE ESTABLISHED SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE BASED ON HOW MANY CARS THEY CONTACTED, HOW MANY CARS. SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T MOVE. SO I GUESS THOUGH MY CONCERN IS IF THAT'S THE WALKWAY UP AT THE TOP LEFT CORNER THAT'S COMING OFF OF OCEAN, IF WE HAD PEDESTRIANS COMING OVER FROM THE CONDOS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO WALK ALL THE WAY UP. SO THERE'S NO QUEUE ON THAT FAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING AT ALL, ACTUALLY. SO THEY'LL STILL WALK THROUGH AND AROUND IT RIGHT THERE. ARE YOU PICK UP THEIR PICK UP, PICK UP THEIR FOOD. SO THEY'RE STOPPED HERE. THERE'S A STOP SIGN HERE AND A STOP SIGN HERE. SO THERE IS A LITTLE STOP HERE AND THERE IS A BETTER BE CAREFUL THERE. YEAH. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE STAFF WANTED. AND WE GAVE THEM TO CONNECT THE SIDEWALKS TO THE TO THE ACTUAL STARBUCKS. WE DIDN'T INITIALLY HAVE THAT. AND WHERE'S THE JUST CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE PATIO IS GOING? I WAS ABOUT OKAY, SO THIS OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG WAY. THAT'S GOING EAST OCEAN THAT'S GOING OKAY OKAY. YEP, YEP. OKAY THIS SHOWS THE ORDERING FOR THE CITY ORDER. HERE WE GO. THERE'S THE CAR. OH, THERE'S THE CARS. YEAH, THERE'S THE CARS. SO IF YOU WANTED TO STOP HERE, SEE HOW IT STOPS OVER HERE. SO WHICH WAY DO THE CARS GO WHEN THEY GET THERE? THEY'RE GOING AROUND. OH THEY'RE STARTING. THEY'RE OUT WIDE OKAY. NO THE ORDERING WINDOW THAT WOULD BE COVERED IN WINDOW. OKAY AND THEN PICK UP OVER HERE. SO BUT CONCEIVABLY IF THERE'S A LOT OF CARS IN LINE WHICH STARBUCKS TENDS TO THE CARS WOULD KIND OF MEET EACH OTHER AT THE TOP CORNER GOING THIS WAY AND THEN THIS WAY. SO IT IS GOING TO LINE UP THEIR CARS THEN IN THE QUEUING BECAUSE LIKE IN THE MORNING RIGHT WHEN EVERYBODY'S GETTING THE COFFEE. THAT'S TRUE. WHERE DOES THAT QUEUING THEN GO TO UP ALONG THE WALKWAY 50 CARS IS A LOT OF CARS HERE. I THINK IT WAS TEN IS WHAT THE PRESENTATION HAD SAID. YEAH. SO THIS THIS MAXIMIZES THERE'S 12 ON THAT. THIS IS HOW STARBUCKS KNOWS THEY'RE DOING. 60% OF THEIR BUSINESS COMES OUT OF DRIVERS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THEY KNOW BASED ON THEIR EXPECTED VOLUME. RIGHT. WHAT THEY BUT LET'S SAY THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE LINE IS STOPPED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DELIVER THE COFFEE FAST ENOUGH. WHERE DO THOSE CARS END UP WAITING. WHAT WOULD THAT DO OVER TIME. YEAH. OKAY. IF YOU CAN SPEAK IN THE MIC. SORRY OVER HERE. YEAH YEAH. SO IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LEAVING HERE AND ENTERING HERE. MICROPHONE KIND OF HOW EXCITING IS THAT. THEY WOULD QUEUE ALL THE WAY BACK IF THAT CIRCUMSTANCE HAPPENED WHERE IT WAS A BACKUP ON A PARTICULAR DAY I ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE OUT HERE TO BACK THEM UP HERE. I. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A STARBUCKS WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE THAT'S A CHICK FIL A, THAT'S CHICK FIL A, THAT'S NOT STARBUCKS. WRONG, WRONG FRANCHISE. THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT THAT. YEAH. DID YOU REALIZE THAT HAS BECOME A BIG PROBLEM IN SHOPPING CENTERS? YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. EVERYBODY LOVES THEM. BUT AS A SHOPPING CENTER, YEAH. YOU GOT TO HAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR THEM. YEAH. BUT I MEAN STARBUCKS IS ALSO I MEAN, I DO FEEL LIKE THOSE TAIL ENDS ARE GOING TO MEET EACH OTHER ON A BUSY DAY, BUT I'M NOT REALLY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND THE PERVIOUS VERSUS NON PERVIOUS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ACTUALLY. SO WHEN YOU SAID WELL WE COULD JUST MAKE THE PARKING SPOT. OH SO THE STAFF ACTUALLY THE PUBLIX, THERE'S A PUBLIX. OFF WHAT IS BAKER ROAD. BAKER ROAD OR CORNERSTONE. YEAH. YEAH. AND YOU REALLY CAN'T. IT REALLY LOOKS JUST LIKE ASPHALT. LIKE THE REALLY WOULD NOT KNOW THAT. IT'S YOU REALLY WOULD NOT KNOW THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIAL. YEAH. OKAY THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. OKAY. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK ABOUT THE DUMPSTER DETAIL. IS THAT A TYPICAL STARBUCKS DUMPSTER DETAIL? NO, THIS IS A CITY REQUIRED DETAIL. ARE THOSE CARTS OR DUMPSTERS? THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUAL DUMPSTER CONTAINERS. DO THEY REQUIRE IT FOR THE RESTAURANT? YEAH TO USE. OKAY. YEAH AND THOSE ARE IN BIG ENCLOSED AREA. YEAH, YEAH. AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD DO ONE SET OF SWING DOORS. NO, NO. I'M SORRY. NO. YEAH THAT'S THE TYPICAL DETAIL FOR OUR, OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE USAGE, THEY HAVE CALCULATIONS FOR, FOR RESTAURANT USES. THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR CODE. THAT'S A DEVELOPED CITY OF STUART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATION. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO VOTE. WE CAN VOTE ONE THING. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON ALL THREE [00:35:04] SEPARATELY OR ONE ONE. OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION A MOTION MOTION, MOTION. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION WITH OUR CHANGES THOUGH. CORRECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER WHATEVER THE MOTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE WOULD INCLUDE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE SAYING THAT THE MOTION THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COVER NO MORE THAN 65% IS GOING TO BE YES, 65 OR LESS IS GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS. YES THEY'RE GOING TO, DO THE SETBACK, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO IN EXCHANGE, DO A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT GOES ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY ACROSS OCEAN. CORRECT, AND THE SHADE TREES LARGER THE SETBACK, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE LARGER SETBACK IS. YEAH ARE THOSE THE THREE ITEMS? RIGHT. ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? THAT WAS MISSED? THE PARKING, WHICH IS ALSO A REQUEST AND THEIR CURRENT REQUEST. SO I THINK TO ALLOW THE PARKING REALLY JUST YEAH, IT WOULD JUST CHANGE THE, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE MET ON SITE OR ELSEWHERE ON THE SUBJECT PARCEL. A LANDSCAPING WOULD BE BASED ON THE SETBACKS, AND THE PARKING IS ALLOWED BASED ON THE BUILDING PLACEMENT. OKAY. AND THE BUILDING PLACEMENT ITSELF, OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SOMEBODY WANT TO WORD THAT BETTER THAN I DID, OKAY. SO LET'S GO BACK. ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE THE MOTION ONE OF YOU. ONE OF YOU TWO WANT TO MAKE THE. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PARKING FOR THE SETBACK AND LANDSCAPE, FOR THE LANDSCAPE. WITH THE INCREASED SETBACK AND FOR A MAXIMUM OF 65% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. HOLD ON. I THINK WE GOT IT ALL. CHRIS. IF HE'S IF HE IF IT'S JUST, SETBACK. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE BUILDING PLACEMENT. YES THAT YEAH. THAT'S THE YES OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND DIDN'T END THE INCREASED LANDSCAPING BECAUSE HE THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD INCREASE. THEY WOULD DO THE LANDSCAPING ALL THE WAY DOWN. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. INCREASED LANDSCAPING, ALL RIGHT. THAT HAS A MOTION THAT YOU MADE. THAT'S A MOTION. OKAY. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE WOULD YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE LINE. DO YOU NEED ROLL CALL OR WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER PETERSON. YES. BOARD MEMBER FORBES. YES FORBES. ALL RIGHT. CHAIR. LORRAINE. YES. AND BOARD MEMBER. STRUM. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, [2. TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2.6.23 - NONMEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2531-2024; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING AND RESTATING THE CITY’S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; MORE SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION 2.06.23 ENTITLED “RESERVED” AND INSERTING SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES; AMENDING THE LAND USE TABLE IN SECTION 2.02.02 TO INCLUDE NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AS AN ALLOWABLE USE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS; AMENDING SECTION 3.01.03 TO ESTABLISH PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES WITHIN THE URBAN CODE DISTRICTS; AMENDING SECTION 6.01.13 TO ADD OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES; AMENDING CHAPTER XII DEFINITIONS FOR CONFORMING TERMS; AMENDING CHAPTER 30 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. I'M REALLY CURIOUS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS ALREADY, BEFORE JUST JUST IN CASE THAT PASSES, I GUESS. YEAH, THAT'S REALLY WEIRD. CAN I, I MEAN, CAN I ASK AHEAD OF TIME, LIKE, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS BEFORE IT'S EVEN VOTED ON IN THE ELECTION? WHY ARE WE GOING? LET ME READ IT INTO THE RECORD FIRST. OKAY? OKAY ALL RIGHT, ORDINANCE NUMBER 25, 31 2024, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING AND RESTATING THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. MORE SPECIFICALLY, AMENDING SECTION 2.0, 6.23, ENTITLED RESERVED AND INSERTING SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. AMENDING THE LAND USE TABLE IN SECTION 2.02.02 TO INCLUDE NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AS AN ALLOWABLE USE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AMENDING SECTION 3.01.03 TO ESTABLISH PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES WITHIN THE URBAN CODE DISTRICTS. AMENDING SECTION 6.01.13 TO ADD OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. AMENDING CHAPTER 12 DEFINITIONS FOR CONFORMING TERMS. AMENDING CHAPTER 30 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS. PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BRIEFLY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S A NON-MEDICAL USE. MARIJUANA IS ON THE BALLOT COMING UP IN NOVEMBE, AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION AND SO, WE ARE ANTICIPATING IT PASSING FOR INSTANCE, TODAY I WAS IN A SEMINAR ALL DAY WITH POLICE, LEGAL ADVISORS AND SHERIFFS LAWYERS. OKAY. THAT'S PART OF MY JOB THAT I DO PART TIME HERE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND WE HAD A SPEAKER THAT SAID REITERATED THREE POLES IN THE LOWEST POLL WAS 60%. AND THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO PASS IN THE ELECTION. SO OBVIOUSLY IT TAKES SEVERAL WEEKS TO PASS AMENDMENTS TO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT STEP PROCESS NOW. WE BROUGHT IT UP TO OUR CITY COMMISSION MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. OKAY. AND THEY REQUESTED TO BRING BACK SOMETHING. THEY WOULD LIKE TO [00:40:06] SEE IT MORE ALONG US. ONE TYPE CORRIDORS OR IN BUSINESS AREAS. THEY DON'T WANT IT IN DOWNTOWN. SO WE HAVE AMENDED SOME OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR NON-MEDICAL USE MARIJUANA TO BE RESTRICTED IN CERTAIN AREAS AND TO BE SOLD AT CERTAIN TIMES, NOT TO BE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER, AND I'M GOING TO LET BEN GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY, WE HAD GOTTEN SOME INSTRUCTION FROM FROM CITY COMMISSION TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING. OKAY SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO BEN'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND, GOOD EVENING. BOARD MEMBERS, SO BEN HOGARTH, ACTUALLY, COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THIS WAS KIND OF A TEAM EFFORT, ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I APPRECIATE LEE AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL. I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY SLIDE TONIGHT, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE BALLOT TEXT UP THERE, FOR ANYONE, FOR THE RECORD OF COURSE, THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO SEE IN NOVEMBER. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE OF PASSAGE, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE BOTH PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE NOW, AS OF THREE DAYS AGO, ENDORSED THIS BALLOT IN FLORIDA. SPECIFIC, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT POLLING RECENTLY HAS BEEN BETWEEN 60 AND 64%. AND THAT WAS BEFORE THEN. SO I THINK THERE'S A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE. AND SO AS LEE SAID, THIS IS REALLY WHAT STAFF KIND OF CAME UP WITH ANTICIPATING THAT CHANGE. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO NOTE 2016 WAS WHEN MEDICAL MEDICINAL MARIJUANA WAS PASSED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT, AS THE BALLOT SAYS, PERSONAL USE, RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT, KIND OF ZONING AND USE. SO I'LL JUST PARAPHRASE, PARAPHRASE, THE PURPOSE, THE WHOLE INTENT FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE DIRECTION THAT THEY PROVIDED STAFF BACK IN JUNE, WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IN PARTICULAR THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREA, IS REGULATED IN A WAY THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE KIND OF CONTINUED SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD DOWNTOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER STATES IN THE WEST COAST WHO HAVEN'T HAD KIND OF CONTROLLED MEASURES, MEASURES WHERE JUST SO MANY OF THESE BUSINESSES OPEN UP IN THE, IN THE SMALL AREA. AND IT KIND OF CREATES ITS OWN CULTURE. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF JUST RATIONAL BASIS FOR THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, OBVIOUSLY, IS TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAD PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA IS SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS IS SIMILAR TO KIND OF WHERE PAIN MANAGEMENT CLINICS WERE PUT IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BACK IN THE DAY, IT'S WHERE WE FELT IT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. THE ORDINANCE THAT WE DRAFTED IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT IT TOUCHES BOTH LDC AND CODE OF ORDINANCES, BECAUSE AS YOU'LL SEE, I THINK IT'S IN EXHIBIT F, BUT AT THE VERY, VERY END OF THE ORDINANCE PROPOSED CHANGES, WE TALKED TO, SIMILAR TO MARTIN COUNTY, WE'VE ESSENTIALLY PROHIBITED SMOKING OF ANY SUBSTANCE IN OUR PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND AREAS AND PARKS AND WITHIN 50FT THEREOF. SO I DON'T WANT TO AGAIN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I KNOW THIS WAS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET. I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO ANY SPECIFIC THAT WE DRAFTED IN THERE WITHOUT DIRECTION, CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY, WE DIDN'T KNOW EVERYWHERE THAT WE NEEDED TO TOUCH, EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION AND CERTAINLY ADVISORY BOARDS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN CHANGING WHAT STAFF DID DO BECAUSE STATE REGULATIONS IN FLORIDA ARE SO RESTRICTIVE COMPARED TO STATES OUT WEST. AND MANY OF THE STATES HAVE ALREADY PASSED MEASURES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEASURES ON THEIR OWN, EVEN WITH MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, TO CHOOSE THE LOCATION AND THE ZONING AND ALL THAT. SO WHAT YOU SEE REALLY IS, IS KIND OF FROM OUR BEST ANALYSIS AND BEST GUESS AND IN REGARD TO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE WILL DO ONCE THIS DOES PASS, COME MARCH AND APRIL AND MAY AND IT STARTS TO GO INTO EFFECT, AND THEY DO THE CONFORMING LAWS, THE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT THE LOCATIONS ARE FOR WHERE THESE BUILDINGS CAN BE IN THESE DISPENSARIES, SPECIFICALLY SELLING AT RETAIL SALE, NON-MEDICAL MARIJUANA WILL NOT BE DOWNTOWN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, WE'VE WE'VE PLACED IT IN THE BUSINESS DISTRICTS, FOR ALLOWABLE USE INDUSTRIAL CBD, IPAD, AND CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW URBAN HIGHWAY, WHICH WOULD BE A LOT OF US, ONE THAT'S NORTH OF THE BRIDGE OF THEGE ROOSEVELT BRIDG, SO I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE WHO HAD READ THROUGH IT HAS ANY NOTES OR COMMENTS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING MENTIONED IN HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT NOT BEING NEAR SCHOOL? YES, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SO WE SPOKE ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, I'LL CALL IT OUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE SPOT. IT'S EXHIBIT A, IT MIGHT. SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID IS, WE HAVE BOTH THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS ALL THE ADDITIONS INTO CODE IN THERE, AND THEN THE EXHIBIT A KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN CODE. SO DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERRED FORMAT, I'LL JUST LOOK THROUGH EXHIBIT A, BUT UNDER, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS IS SECTION E, SO THERE'S TWO, THERE'S DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS [00:45:08] FROM, DISPENSARIES FROM ONE ANOTHER. AND THEN THERE'S THIS DISPENSARY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A STATE STATUTE. YOU MIGHT READ IT A LITTLE BIT AS WEIRD BECAUSE ONE OF THESE TWO REQUIREMENTS READS IS FROM ENTRANCE TO ENTRANCE, AND THE OTHER IS, AS THEY SAY, AS THE CROW FLIES OR KIND OF A LINEAR DISTANCE, WE, WE MAINTAIN THE LINEAR DISTANCE FOR DISPENSARY FROM SCHOOLS AT 500FT, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THE STATE STATUTE WORDS IT. THAT'S THE BARE MINIMUM. WE'RE HAPPY TO CERTAINLY TAKE DIRECTION TO EXPAND THAT. WE CAN GO BEYOND THE MINIMUM. BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANTED TO HAVE AS THAT DISCUSSION. YEAH, , I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND EXPANDING THAT SO THAT IT'S NOWHERE NEAR SCHOOLS. AND THEN, AND THEN DO WE HAVE LANGUAGE ALSO THAT IT'S NOWHERE NEAR LIKE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YEAH. YEAH WELL TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, YES, SO I SHOULD PROBABLY BRING UP THE MAPS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE. YEAH. YOU COULD. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING TODAY ABOUT, LIKE, THE OCEAN OVERLAY IS THAT. THAT'S BUSINESS. COULD IT BE ALONG THERE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HOUSES JUST RIGHT BEHIND ALL OF THAT? SORRY. I HAD ONE THAT WAS OPEN ALREADY. SO IF YOU COULD SEE THIS ONE. OKAY. SO, MAP NUMBER ONE, AND I'M GOING TO TRY AND INCREASE THE SIZE OF THIS. THIS WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE THE ZONE, THIS IS THE CURRENT FORMULA BUSINESS AREA DISTRICT THAT EVERYWHERE IN BLUE. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE COLORADO, AND OSCEOLA, FLAGLER, ALL OF THAT, THE IDEA HERE, AND CERTAINLY WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE DIRECTION TO EXPAND THIS OR CONTRACT IT. THE IDEA WAS TO KIND OF OVERLAY A FIGURE WHERE, DISPENSARIES WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM BEING ABLE TO BE PERMITTED. SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF OUR I'LL JUST CALL IT AN EXCLUSION ZONE. IT WOULD JUST BE NOT ALLOWABLE IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND SECTION. AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND SECTION THAT CALLS OUT THE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE. YEAH. I'M JUST OKAY. SO WHERE IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMEBODY SORRY. YEAH. SHOW ME BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ THIS. OKAY SO OVER ON THE RIGHT CORNER UP THERE, IS THAT LIKE WHAT IS THAT AREA RIGHT THERE? IS THAT EAST OCEAN. WHERE'S THE OCEAN. SO EAST OCEAN, IF YOU FOLLOW MY MOUSE CURSOR, THIS IS EAST OCEAN. OKAY. SO CONFUSION CORNER IS RIGHT HERE WITH THE TRAIN TRACKS. SO THAT LINE IS AT THE HOSPITAL. SO THIS IS, I BELIEVE WEST. SO THAT'S SEMINOLE UP THERE. THAT'S DETROIT. SORRY, THIS IS DETROIT. IT'S HARD TO READ ON THERE. SORRY. SO WHAT'S AT DETROIT? ARE WE KIND OF TOWARDS BLUE DOOR? ARE WE FURTHER THAN THAT? YEAH. THAT DOESN'T GO DOWN VERY FAR. IT DOESN'T. NO PAIN CLINIC RIGHT AFTER THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. YOU MENTIONED PAIN CLINIC. IS THAT BUILDING RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. SO PART OF STAFF CONVERSATION WAS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE GO FURTHER DOWN OCEAN? OH, I THINK YOU SHOULD. 100%. I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES DOWN OCEAN. BUT THEN I ALSO THINK I'M ALSO VERY TROUBLED BY THE FACT THAT YOU COULD ZONE OUT. PLEASE YEP. OKAY, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IN THIS AREA OVER HERE. ISN'T THAT STEWART. MIDDLE AND EAST. STEWART. AND LIKE 10TH STREET, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. ISN'T THAT RIGHT THERE, 10TH STREET WOULD BE FURTHER TO THE EAST. IT WOULDN'T BE ON THIS MAP, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AS SOON AS YOU GET PAST, MEMORIAL PARK, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MAP. OKAY, SO THIS TO ME HAS ABSOLUTELY GOT TO SAY NO WAY IN ANY AREA NEAR STEWART MIDDLE. I WOULD NOT HAVE IT NEAR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. I WOULD NOT HAVE IT NEAR LIKE THE 10TH STREET COMMUNITY CENTER AREA. I JUST THINK THAT ANY OF THOSE AREAS, THAT HOSPITAL, THERE'S THE HOSPITAL, IT'S GEARED TOWARDS, CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. WELL, AND ALSO THE WHOLE LIKE SHOPPING DISTRICT ALONG MARTIN LUTHER OR. IS THAT MARTIN? YEAH. MARTIN LUTHER ALONG THERE WHERE THE POLICE STATION IS AND ALL THE SHOPS ARE THERE WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS THROUGH THERE, A LOT OF FAMILIES. SO, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PAIN CLINIC. YEAH. SO LIKE, YEAH, THAT JUST DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW. SO I WOULD NOT DISPENSARY RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO KIND OF BRING THIS OVER REALLY QUICK BECAUSE THIS MAP SHOWS A LOT MORE, THESE WERE A SERIES OF MAPS THAT DEVELOPMENT PUT TOGETHER OF THE DOWNTOWN. WE TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER FOR YOU, LIKE REALLY HARD TO CONCEPTUALIZE HERE. YEAH. IT'S SO THERE'S A SERIES OF MAPS HERE. THIS WOULD BE KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE AT. OKAY THESE SO EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTLINED HERE, THE RED I BELIEVE IS ALL THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT ALL THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE COLORED WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE AN ALLOWABLE USE, IN THE FUTURE. SO HERE'S THE COLORS B234 INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. SO WHERE YOU HAVE OKAY. SO GO BACK GO HERE SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER OKAY. SO WHERE IT IS RED IS WHERE IT WOULD BE ALLOWED. AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY. CORRECT. BUT EVERYWHERE THAT IS NOT RED IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. YEAH. IN THE SO THE OTHER MAP THAT WE [00:50:04] SHOWED YOU'RE CORRECT THE THIS MAP, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MAP IS SO THAT WE DO BOTH THINGS. WE SHOW WHERE IT'S ALLOWABLE AND THEN WE SPECIFY WHERE IT'S EXPLICITLY EXCLUDED. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT, IF FOR ANY REASON I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE ZONING IN PROGRESS RECENTLY. IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, CODE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE WHERE BUSINESS DISTRICT IS, WHERE EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS ARE HAVING THIS EXCLUSION ZONE SORT OF WILL COVER US IN THE FUTURE. GOOD. OKAY. SO THAT'S OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I THIS MAP AND THE COLOR CODED MAP DON'T SEEM TO JIVE UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING. SO I'M CONFUSED. I AGREE WITH I AGREE. SO BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE ONLY THING EXCLUDED, BUT THEN WHEN YOU SHOW THE RED MAP, I'M THINKING, YEAH, OKAY, THE RED THING, THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT IF IT I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT DOESN'T LINE UP. DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE SAME. I'M MISSING SOMETHING. YEAH. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE COLOR CODE. CHRIS MCCARRON FOR THE RECORD, SORRY. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE IT'S NOT JUST THE RED SECTION. SO EVERYTHING THAT HAS A COLOR, THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WOULD PERMIT THOSE USES EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT COLORED, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST AN AERIAL, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. OKAY. SO THE RED IS B2, PURPLE IS B4. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GO TO THE LEGEND. OH YEAH. IT'S UP HERE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THESE ARE ALL THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE CALLED OUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOW FOR THE USE, AND THESE MAPS ARE JUST DEPICTING THE LOCATIONS WHERE THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS EXIST TODAY. OKAY. SO WHY IS THERE A RANDOM BY OSCEOLA LIKE THAT RANDOM DOT THAT IS ACTUALLY A PUD? IT'S A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. WHAT IS IT? I OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT. WHICH IS IT? THE ONE BY THE WOMEN'S CLUB. I THINK IT'S SODA SALON. OH, WOW. IS IT IS A TINY LITTLE BUILDING. I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AN ACTUAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AS A ZONING DESIGNATION. OKAY, SO SCROLL TO THE SCROLL TO THE ONE THAT'S THE BOTTOM ONE. OKAY. STOP ALL RIGHT. THIS IS GOING SOUTH IN THE CITY. SO ACCORDING TO THIS, THE EAST STUART AREA THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT ALONG MARTIN LUTHER WOULD NOT BE AN ALLOWABLE DISTRICT. IF YOU REMEMBER THE. WELL, THE EAST STUART ZONING DESIGNATION HAS ITS OWN ZONING CODE. SO IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THAT ZONING DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE CMU BUSINESS MIXED USE. SFD, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX AND GROW, WHICH IS GENERAL RESIDENTIAL OFFICE. THOSE ARE NOT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS USE. OKAY, OKAY. BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR HAVING THE EXCLUSION ZONE MAP. IN ADDITION TO CALLING OUT THE ZONING DISTRICTS, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING IS. SO MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE. WE CAN EXPAND THE EXCLUSION MAP JUST SO THAT IF THE ZONING CHANGES AND THEY PUT AN OVERLAY THERE OF SOME OTHER SORT OF ZONING, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE DOCTOR'S OFFICES AND STUFF ALL ALONG, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OCEAN, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S ME. I'M LIKE A DOOR AWAY FROM A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR ZONING MAP TO THE MAJORITY OF THE ZONING ALONG EAST OCEAN IS R-3 OR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY OFFICE, WHICH IS NOT AN ALLOWED ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY, RIGHT. THE EXCLUSION ZONE WOULD COVER BOTH OF. YEAH, LET'S DO BOTH. I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOLPHIN DOWN BY KINGSWOOD AND ALL THAT NOW YOU'RE ALLOWING IT AGAIN. AND WHILE THEY ARE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THERE ARE STILL SCHOOLS WITH CHILDREN ON A REGULAR BASIS DOWN THERE. WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT, MA'AM, IS THAT, SO JUST REMEMBER THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE END UP SETTLING ON AND WE COULD INCREASE THAT TO SOMETHING LIKE 1000FT NO MATTER WHERE THIS IS ALLOWABLE, THAT WILL STILL BE APPLIED ANYWAY. AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DISTANCE. I WENT AND TALKED TO ALL THESE NICE PEOPLE PUT UP WITH ME FOR AN AFTERNOON, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT LIKE FROM HERE, I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN ALLOWED AREA, BUT FOR AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT HELPS, VISUAL LIKE IF WE DID IT FROM HERE, RIVER WALK, THIS COULD BE A DISPENSARY, RIVER WALK, OYSTER BAR COULD BE A DISPENSARY. AND THE FLAGLER CENTER COULD BE A DISPENSARY IF WE DID 500FT. YEAH. NO SO TO ME OR OR LIKE THE SHOPPING PLAZA O, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE SHOPPING PLAZA AT HOMEGOODS. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT PAY WAY. YEAH HOMEGOODS AND THE MATTRESS STORE THAT COULD HAVE THREE DISPENSARIES IN THAT SAME. SO AGAIN, 500FT, JUST THAT IS NOT MUCH. I THINK A THOUSAND IS ENOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO I WAS KIND OF THINKING 1500. I AGREE, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE ALLOWED I DON'T KNOW. NO. YEAH 15,000. NO. BUT IS THERE A REASON WHY WE COULD NOT RESTRICT IT TO THE JUST THAT BOTTOM PART, THAT ONE CORRIDOR AND NOT EVEN COUNT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA THAT'S OVER BY KINGSWOOD, THAT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S SOME PRIVATE SCHOOLS THERE. LIKE IS THERE A REASON WHY WE CAN'T KEEP IT JUST ALONG THE US JUST ALONG US ONE AND THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU THAT THE CITY COMMISSION DIDN'T GIVE US A LOT OF DETAIL. THEY DEFINITELY SAID NO DOWNTOWN. AND THEY SAID THEY THEY ALL SEEM TO LIKE US. ONE, I LIKE I LIKE US ONE TO OUR STAFF, WE JUST PIECE [00:55:05] SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH. AND THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS LIKE OVER BY WALMART AND OH YEAH, YEAH YEAH I AGREE. WHAT IS WHAT ARE LIKE COMMERCE BACK THERE. THAT WOULD BE OKAY. US ONE WOULD BE OKAY. BUT I THINK OUTSIDE OF COMMERCE. YEAH WALMART'S NOT OURS. I THOUGHT IT WAS. YEAH. YEAH I WAS GOING TO SAY I THOUGHT IT WAS. SO THERE'S A LOT THERE. THERE'S COUNTING ONCE. YEAH YEAH YEAH ONCE. YEAH. IT KIND OF GOES IN AND THEY WERE ANNEXED IN WHAT IS COUNTY. WHAT IS MARTIN COUNTY SAYING ABOUT THIS. SO YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE IT YET. I WAS SPEAKING TO THEM, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT IT, BUT THEY, THEY WEREN'T THINKING PROACTIVELY LIKE WE WERE. THEY DO HAVE A NON SMOKING IN THE PARKS ALREADY IN PLACE AND WE DON'T HAVE NON SMOKING IN THE PARKS YET. WE'RE ADDING IT. WE'RE ADDING. YEAH FOR SURE. YEAH FOR SURE I REMEMBER BEING I USED TO BE AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I WAS PARKS. AND SO I REMEMBER THAT BEING IN PLACE AND THE SHERIFFS WERE ENFORCING IT OUT AT LIKE HAL PETTY. OKAY SO, WHEN I GOT HERE, I NOTICED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE IT. AND SO BEN AND I MENTIONED, SO WE'RE SAYING PARKS, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT, LIKE, PEOPLE COULD BE LIKE, SAY, IF YOU'RE AT A RESTAURANT AND SOMEBODY LIKE, PEOPLE SMOKE OUTSIDE A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS ANNOYING ENOUGH, BUT LIKE, THEY COULD JUST BE LIKE, LITERALLY SMOKING MARIJUANA OUTSIDE A RESTAURANT. WELL, OUR ORDINANCE IS PUBLIC. HOW IS IT DEFINED AGAIN? BEN PUBLIC LAND, INCLUDING PARKS OR HOW DO WE. YEAH, IT SAYS PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION, 50FT THEREOF. YEP SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM YOU GUYS ON IT, HOW IS THE RIVERWALK ZONED? IS THAT A PARK? LIKE, LIKE, SO COULD SOMEBODY SIT ON THE BOARDWALK AT ROCK AND RIVERWALK ON A SUNDAY SMOKING POT? IT'S NOT A PARK THAT THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED. SO THAT WOULD YOU WOULD NOT BE. WELL, YOU COULDN'T SELL THERE. BUT ARE WE GOING TO EXCLUDE IT FOR SMOKING THERE. WELL THAT'S WE DO HAVE THAT. THE ONE OF THE LAST THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ADDRESSES THAT. SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS THAT SPECIFIC TO MARIJUANA LIKE BECAUSE OR JUST SMOKING IN GENERAL. SMOKING IN GENERAL. YEAH. I SAY WE VOTE TO JUST SAY ALL SMOKING. I WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE CIGAR. YEAH. OH THAT'S RIGHT, I WANT TO MENTION THE FEET DISTANCE. SO I MEAN YOU SAID 15,000 OR 1500 MAYBE I DON'T I MEAN THAT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S DISCRETIONARY. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SEXUAL PREDATOR AND SEXUAL OFFENDER LAWS UNDER THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS 1000FT FROM A PARK OR SCHOOL. YOU CAN'T RESIDE IF YOU'RE A SEXUAL OFFENDER, AND I THINK I USED TO WORK FOR PORT SAINT LUCIE AND WE HAD 2500, SO WE EXPANDED IT THAT MUCH. YEAH. SO YOU CAN'T EXPAND IT, 2500 IS ABOUT HALF A MILE. IS THE FLOOR. SO WE STARTED OFF AT THE FLOOR AND LET'S LET'S, LET'S GO TOWARDS THE CEILING I AGREE. AND THEN IS THERE ANY WAY LIKE BECAUSE MY ONLY CONCERN IS LIKE I SAID, LIKE YOU SAY SCHOOLS, BUT IS THAT JUST PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN A CERTAIN AREA. ANY SCHOOL, ANY SCHOOL. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND THEN I GUESS MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS ABOUT SO WITH THESE DISPENSARIES THAT THERE'D BE NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES OUTSIDE BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE HOME GOODS PLOT. SO THE OUTSIDE THAT'S IN THERE. OKAY, OKAY. SO INCREASE THE DISTANCES. YEAH. I'M HAPPY I'M HAPPY TO READ IT, SHE'S GOT QUESTIONS TO MY QUESTIONS ON IT. YEAH. SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WHILE I'M, WHILE I'M MENTIONING THAT I DID BRING UP THE MAP NORTH OF THE BRIDGE AS WELL. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER US. ONE DOES DOES CONTINUE UP THERE. YEAH. THE DARK PURPLE I BELIEVE IS URBAN HIGHWAY, THE LIGHTER PINKISH PURPLE THAT'S MORE CBD. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S STILL MOSTLY AROUND US. ONE THERE. YEAH YEAH, SO ALSO AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, I WANT TO MENTION THIS TO REMEMBER WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, NUMBER ONE IS DISPENSARIES FROM ONE ANOTHER. YEAH. AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE SCHOOLS. SO IF YOU WANT THAT NUMBER TO BE THE SAME, I THINK THAT'S OKAY, TOO, WE'RE JUST LOOKING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S 1500 OR 2000FT SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW. YEAH THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN, LET ME BRING IT UP, THIS IS ALL AN EXHIBIT. IT'S EASIER TO SEE AN EXHIBIT A, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING, WE ALSO DO HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION, NOISE, LIGHTING AND ODOR. WE ADDED THAT JUST IN CASE YOU SAID ODOR. YES. OH, THAT'S GOOD, SO THAT'S A BIG ONE. YEAH SO A PART OF THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS, IS FORECASTING POTENTIAL, OTHER POTENTIAL ASPECTS OF, OF THIS LAW THAT THE LEGISLATORS COULD START TOUCHING. AND SO, YEAH, THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE A, A BUSINESS THAT OPENS THAT DOESN'T EVEN SELL MARIJUANA, JUST SELLS MARIJUANA ACCESSORIES. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL, WE DO CALL OUT AND SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. I'M TRYING TO FIND EXACTLY THAT SPOT, WHERE I THINK IT'S UNDER MAYBE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS. WE ALSO TALK ABOU, SQUARE FEET WITH CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL. SO I THINK WE MAXIMIZE THAT AT SO THEY CAN'T HAVE EXCESS OF SOMETHING ELSE. WE [01:00:06] TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER IS HAVING TOO LARGE OF A BUILDING, SO WE CAN'T HAVE, IN THIS CODE RIGHT NOW, IN EXCESS OF 2000FT■S OF RETAIL SPACE FOR, ESSENTIALLY RETAIL MARIJUANA OR, PERSONAL USE MARIJUANA, A SUPER CENTER. YEAH, YEAH, BUT NO, FOR MARIJUANA. NO. SO THEY COULD HAVE 3000FT■!S FOR MEDICINAL AND ONLY SET ASIDE 2000. IS THAT HO. NO. YEAH, THAT'S AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION. IS HOW DOES CURRENT MEDICINAL COINCIDE WITH THIS NEW. YOU KNOW I JUST SO THE CHALLENGE AND THIS IS PART OF WHERE FLORIDA WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CHALLENGES THAN OTHER STATES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE STATE REGULATES, OR PREEMPTED THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES FROM REGULATING, MEDICINAL MARIJUANA FACILITIES IN THEIR LOCATIONS. WE HAVE TO REGULATE IT THE SAME AS PHARMACIES. SO WE CAN'T BE ANY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN PHARMACIES WITH THOSE. THIS HAS NOT BEEN PREEMPTED TO THAT DEGREE YET. OBVIOUSLY, THE BALLOT INITIATIVE HASN'T PASSED, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DO THAT ALSO, AFTER THE FACT. BUT THIS IS TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS FOR RIGHT NOW. AND HOPEFULLY IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING PREVAILS LATER ON. DO WE? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY SO CAN EXISTING DISPENSARIES THAT ARE MEDICAL NOW LIKE IN THE SAME LOCATION LIKE OFFER BOTH OR IS THERE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. SO THE WAY THE BALLOT IS A GREAT QUESTION. THE WAY THE BALLOT INITIATIVE READS NOW THE WHAT'S ANTICIPATED BECAUSE THE DISTRIBUTION MODEL IS ALREADY IN PLACE IS FOR THOSE FACILITIES TO START SELLING RECREATION THE NEXT DAY. THEN THE STATE IS BECAUSE DOE, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS STILL REGULATING EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO EVEN THIS BALLOT, EVEN IF IT GOES RECREATIONAL, DOE STILL HAS KIND OF THE AUTHORITY FOR NOW. SO AS A RESULT, WE KNOW THAT MEDICAL FACILITIES CAN BE THE FIRST LICENSED, POTENTIALLY THOSE WHO I SHOULD SAY THAT DISPENSARIES THAT SELL MEDICAL MARIJUANA, THEY ALREADY HAVE. YEAH BUT IF THEY'RE IN AN IN AN EXCLUSION ZONE FOR US THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING FOR RECREATIONAL OR BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING RIGHT NOW IF IT'S MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, IT'S MAYBE ALLOWED CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL. SO IT'S CLOSER TO IT'S INTERESTING. MEDICINAL MARIJUANA ARE ALLOWED ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW OR MEDICINAL DISPENSARIES ARE ALLOWED ANYWHERE. A PHARMACY IS ALLOWED RIGHT NOW UNDER LAW. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS IF SUDDENLY THE LAW CHANGES AND THE BALLOT PASSES AND RECREATIONAL IS ALLOWED TO BE SOLD, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN THEIR LOCATION. BUT BY PASSING THIS, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GRANDFATHERED INTO THE USE OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. SO I THIS IS AN APPROACH THAT STAFF REALLY TOOK TIME TO THINK ABOUT HOW THEY'LL BE PROTECTED BECAUSE THERE'S STILL MEDICAL. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO DO NON-MEDICAL. THEY'LL HAVE TO CHANGE LOCATION, POTENTIALLY HAVE TO CHANGE LOCATION. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT UNLESS IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE FREE TO CORRECT ME. BUT THAT'S MY. YEAH. LIKE, WE SHOULD MAKE IT THAT IF THEY IF THEY PLAY OUT AS IT ROLLS OUT. YEAH. IF THEY GO NON IF THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IF THEY ADOPT NON-MEDICAL THAT THEN THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THESE RULES. SO REGARDLESS OF IF THEY DID NON-MEDICAL ONCE THEY DECIDE TO DO OR IF THEY DID MEDICAL BEFORE, ONCE THEY DECIDE TO DO NON-MEDICAL, THEN IT SHOULD APPLY TO THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD READ, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEN THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. SO THE DIRECTION STAFF IS LOOKING IS KIND OF IN A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. ONE IS THAT EXCLUSION ZONE MAP THAT WE, THAT WE HAD. AND I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT'S THE EXCLUSION ZONE MAP THAT WAS THE STARTING BASELINE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KNOW IF THE FORMULA. SORRY. LET ME PULL THAT BACK UP. IF THE FORMULA IF THIS IS ALREADY EXISTING IN CODE, THIS IS THE FORMULA BUSINESS DISTRICT. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING LIKE PAST OSCEOLA AND OCEAN ON THE EAST SIDE HERE, IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE IT IN HOW MUCH FURTHER DOWN? WELL, I THINK YOU SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE WHERE ARE THE NOT WHERE ARE THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA PLACES CURRENTLY. LIKE WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE SO THAT WE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK MOST OF THEIR THEY'RE ALL ON ONE PRETTY MUCH LIKE MOST MEDICAL MARIJUANA. YES. DO WE HAVE ANY THAT ARE OFF OF US? ONE THAT WE KNOW OF BECAUSE I'M HAVING CANCER TREATMENT. THERE MIGHT BE THERE MIGHT BE THERE MIGHT BE ONE. IN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT JUST WHERE MEDICAL MARIJUANA LOCATIONS ARE, BUT ALSO WHERE PHARMACIES ARE POTENTIALLY ALREADY, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF HAS TO BE THE SAME ALLOWABLE USE. SO, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE TRYING TO FORECAST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE WANTED TO GET, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION IS LIKE, HOW SHOULD WE EXPAND THIS, THIS FORMULA MAP? FOR WHERE EVERYTHING IS, NO MATTER WHAT, EXCLUDED. SO I WOULD THINK I ACTUALLY LIKED HI. SO FOR TWO THINGS. AND I THINK WE DO THE SAME AMOUNT I LIKE THE 2500 ONLY BECAUSE NOT ONLY WAS IT MAKING IT A GOOD DISTANCE FROM SCHOOLS, BUT IT ALSO MEANS WE CAN'T ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE AN INFLUX. AND LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, THE CULTURE THAT COMES WITH IT, LIKE AN INFLUX OF THESE [01:05:02] WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO HANG OUT AND SMOKE POT BECAUSE HOW MANY MILES IS IT FROM, LIKE JUST THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE TO THE END OF CITY STUART ON US ONE, YOU COULD KIND OF DO THE MATH OF HOW MANY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ALLOWED IF THEY'RE A HALF MILE APART, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD LIMIT IT FROM BEING AN OVERWHELMING THING, BECAUSE 2500 IS ABOUT HALF A MILE. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. YEAH. AND ALSO, IS THERE A LIMIT OF THE NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES AND IS THAT A LICENSED THING THAT THERE CAN ONLY BE. SO FIVE AND STUART OR I THERE, THERE IS A STATE REGULATION ON THE AMOUNT OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT PERHAPS THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS WELL REGULATED AND KEEP IT TO THAT FOR NOW. THAT HAS A HARD LIMIT IN LAW. AND BASICALLY THEY ORIGINALLY LICENSED TEN TO START, AND THEN EVERY 100,000 PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA LICENSE, THE NURSERIES AND ALL THAT WERE ALLOWED TO INITIATE ANOTHER FOUR TREATMENT CENTERS LICENSES. SO THAT NUMBER I THINK IS NOW OVER 20. IT'S ABOUT 22. IT'S EITHER 22 OR NOW GOING OVER THAT, BUT THAT'S MEDICINAL. THIS THIS BALLOT INITIATIVE ALLOWS THE LEGISLATURE, SHOULD IT CHOOSE TO IN THE FUTURE, ALLOW NOT JUST MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS, BUT ALL SORTS OF BUSINESSES TO JUST START LICENSING THE RETAIL SALE OF MARIJUANA. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. SO WE'RE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT? LIKE WALMART START SELLING MARIJUANA. LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON? SO MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE WALMART SELLS THE MARIJUANA ACCESSORIES RIGHT IN IN I, I CAN'T THIS BECOMES SUCH A PANDORA'S BOX OF POSSIBILITY BECAUSE THERE'S PHARMACIES DOWN, YEAH. RIGHT IN THAT AREA. THERE'S. YEAH, THERE'S. YEAH. AND SO OUR FOCUS AS A STAFF BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION DIRECTION PREVIOUSLY WAS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS PRIMARILY THE SUBSTANCE GOING TO BE SOLD. AND WE REALLY HONED IN AND FOCUSED ON THAT, AND OUR CLEAR DIRECTION WAS TRY TO KEEP IT TO US ONE WHEREVER POSSIBLE, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE MINIMUM DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS IN HERE AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK IS HOW FAR SHOULD WE GO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL LIMIT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE NOW COMPLETELY EXCLUDING IT BY DISTANCE AND, YOU KNOW, 15 MILES, RIGHT? RIGHT AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THOSE DISTANCES IN. SO I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, FROM WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS KEEP IT TO ONE 2500 MINIMUM FEET BETWEEN THE, THE DISPENSARIES AND THE SCHOOLS. OKAY, AND THEN IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO LIMIT LIKE, LIKE YOU ONLY CAN GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PERMITS WITHIN THE CITY TO BUILD THEM, LIKE, JUST SO THAT THERE'S NOT ALL OF A SUDDEN, LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE, I'M SURE IT MIGHT BE CERTAIN COUNTIES ARE VERY FRIENDLY TO THIS. SO EVERYBODY'S TRAVELING TO CERTAIN COUNTIES LIKE, YEAH, YEAH. SO I WHAT I WOULD SAY JUST BASED ON MY I HAVE MORE OF A FORMAL LEGISLATIVE BACKGROUND, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WHAT'S MOST LIKELY TO BE PREEMPTED IS THAT SORT OF POLICY ON LIMITING NUMBER. SO WHAT A LOT OF CITIES HAVE DONE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT IS LIMIT IN LIEU OF LIMITING NUMBER OR COMPLETELY PROHIBITING THE USE OR ACTIVITY THEY LIMIT, ESSENTIALLY BY CODIFYING IT TO SPECIFIC AREAS AND DISTRICTS. AND THAT'S BEEN UPHELD FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I THINK. SO THE 2500 LIMITING THE ZONING IN THE FEET FROM DISTANCES, THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT IT. OKAY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. YEAH. YEAH. AND THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SCHOOL DISTANCE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DISTANCE FROM EACH OTHER. AND THEN THE BUILDING SIZE. NO SMOKING IN THE PARKS. WHAT ELSE. THE BUILDING SIZE ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ON TONIGHT, WELL, WE DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PERHAPS IT COULD BE WORDED BETTER OR MORE, MORE INCLUSIVE, MORE DETAIL, WE SORT OF JUST DID A BASIC COVER, BUT ON SECTION F OF THAT PART OF CODE, WAS THE NOISE, LIGHTING AND ODOR DISCUSSION, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL HOW FAR THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO GO ON THIS, IN SOME STATES, THEY ALLOW EVEN THE AGRICULTURAL USE RIGHT THERE, IN THE SAME KIND OF LOCATIONS THAT THAT SELL RETAIL. AND SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THOSE LOCATIONS IS LIKE SOUND GENERATORS POWERED AT NIGHT AND THE ADJACENCY OF THE BUILDING. SO WE TRIED TO HAVE SOMETHING, AT LEAST IN COD, THAT THAT SPEAKS TO IT AT THE BEGINNING. BUT IT'S LIKE I SAID, TOO MUCH OF A PANDORA'S BOX TO GO INTO, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO REGULATE THIS AT THAT LEVEL. WHAT ABOUT THE ODOR FOR DOWN DOWNTOWN? IS THERE A WAY TO BASICALLY NOT HAVE PEOPLE SMOKING MARIJUANA? BECAUSE I GET LIKE CIGARETTES. LIKE THAT'S REALLY HARD CIGAR. WE HAVE A CIGAR SHOP, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD BECAUSE THAT'S THE WORST. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A CITY LIKE SEATTLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S DISGUSTING. YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SMOKE CIGARETTES WALKING DOWN. WHY COULDN'T THEY SMOKE A JOINT IF IT'S LEGAL NOW? SO AT LEAST THAT AT LEAST THAT OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES, THAT NEW, ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS IN ADDITION TO THE LDC CHANGES HERE, WOULD PROHIBIT IT WITHIN 50, EVEN 50FT OF THESE, THESE [01:10:02] PUBLIC LOCATIONS, THE PARKS, THE RIVERWALK, OUR BUILDINGS, SO IF YOU'RE OUT IN FRONT OF THE GAFFORD AND ONE TABLE SMOKING A CIGARETTE, COULD SOMEBODY ELSE BE SMOKING POT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY 50FT FROM THE RIVERWALK, OR LUNA'S ON THE OTHER SIDE. YEAH. I'M CONCERNED ON HOW THE STATE'S GOING TO PREEMPT THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND THEY MIGHT THEY MIGHT JUST UBIQUITOUSLY MAKE IT ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE, ANYWAY, BUT WE'RE WE'RE ALSO PREEMPTED ON ON REGULATING CERTAIN ACTIVITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I SAY SMOKING ANY SUBSTANCE, AS IT SAYS ON, ON OUR DRAFT ORDINANCE, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADD BEFORE WE GO TO FINAL AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, IS CIGARS. CIGARS WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS. NOT BECAUSE I LIKE CIGARS BECAUSE BECAUSE THE STATE EXEMPTED THOSE CIGARS, IN RECENT LAST TWO TWO. COULD YOU SAY NO SMOKING ON PUBLIC SIDEWALKS? THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. IT'S A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC FORUM, AND THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR LEE. YOU CAN'T SLEEP ON THEM, CAN YOU? SMOKE ON THEM? LIKE. RIGHT. I MEAN, IS THAT A THING? I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON IT, BUT I WOULD BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING OF LIKE, HOW DO YOU YOU MIGHT NOT BE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO US ONE TO BUY IT, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP YOU FROM BRINGING IT INTO DOWNTOWN. AND YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SIT ON THE RIVERWALK, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD STAND. CITY HALL IS NOT TO HAVE TO SMELL THAT ANYWHERE. YEAH. FOR IT TO BE COVERING DOWNTOWN. YEAH, YEAH, I GUESS THAT AT THIS STAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF THE STORE AND. YEAH. OR SELLING IT DOWNTOWN. AND OBVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC LAND IN DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE THEY WOULDN'T. AND WE DO HAVE, LIKE THE FIREWORKS AND STUFF. THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SMOKE IT THERE. WHEN WE DO, LIKE THE FIREWORKS SHOW, FOR THE 4TH OF JULY AT MEMORIAL PARK, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SMOKE IT THERE. BUT CHRISTMAS PARADE ON OCEAN, SITTING ON THE SIDEWALK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WALKING BY. YEAH, I YEAH, I WELL I MEAN SOME OF IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE LEGAL, IT'S GOING TO BE LEGAL. BUT IF IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO TO KIND OF LIMIT IT TO THOSE PUBLIC VENUES AND OUTSIDE. RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU DRINK WINE AT ON OCEAN THOUGH? NOT THAT I'VE EVER DONE THAT, BUT RIGHT IN A SPECIAL CUP I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT OFF. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ONE. BUT OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE INTOXICATED. POLICE OFFICER SURE. GETTING THAT PART OF GETTING TO. SO I WONDER IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT SIMILAR TO HOW IS ALCOHOL? YEAH. I WONDER IF THAT'S LIKE A LAW ENFORCEMENT QUESTION. I AGREE WITHIN THE CITY HANDLE. LIKE CAN YOU DO WE HAVE OPEN CONTAINER LAWS? WE DON'T HAVE OPEN YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE THAT'S OPEN CONTAINERS. IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE POLICE TO REGULATE. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE REGULATED. RIGHT. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO STOP EVERYBODY FROM DOING EVERYTHING. BUT IF YOU YOU CAN HAVE IT ON RECORD. RECORD? SIT IN THE CURB. YEAH BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE INTENT IS THAT. AND I REMEMBER THE COUNTY IT WAS DIFFICULT REGULATING IN THE PARKS. I REMEMBER EVEN HOW PATIO THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, ONE DEPUTY OUT THERE AND IT WAS TOUGH. IT WAS VAPING WAS WHAT WAS BOTHERING EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. KIDS PLAYING SPORTS AND MAYBE GETTING RECOMMENDATION FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE POLICE. OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. COULD WE DO THAT? COULD WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM STEWART LAW ENFORCEMENT ON WHAT THEY THINK IS A WAY TO THAT COULD BE ENFORCED? I MEAN, IN FACT, WE DID NOT EVEN THINK TO GET THEIR INPUT ON IT. NO ABSOLUTELY IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'RE UNFORTUNATELY WHATEVER WE WHATEVER IS DECIDED THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ENFORCE. SO YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN BESIDES THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF A FACILITY. BUT YEAH, IF FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE SORT OF STUMBLED INTO, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE ALSO INCLUDING THIS. ORIGINALLY WE STARTED WITH ONLY LDC CHANGES, FOR YOUR EDIFICATION, THE ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE INCLUDED IN LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW, AND THIS SPOKE TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, I'LL JUST READ IT. IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR THE OWNER OR OPERATOR OF ANY OF ANY MARIJUANA DISPENSARY TO ENCOURAGE ANY GUEST OR CUSTOMER TO LOITER OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, AROUND ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR IN DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS, INCLUDING THE USE OF ANY SUBSTANCE OR PRODUCT PROCURED FROM THE DISPENSARY. SO ALTHOUGH WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO ENFORCE EVERY SIDEWALK AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE DOING IS HOLDING BUSINESS OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN TO PURCHASE IN YOUR PROPERTY, YOU'RE NOT JUST ALLOWING THEM JUST TO WALK OUTSIDE OF A BAR, RIGHT? YEAH. COLORADO THEY HANG OUT THERE IN FRONT AND THEY DRINK THEIR KAVA, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT I COULD SEE A DISPENSARY BEING VERY SIMILAR. OH, YEAH. WELL, THE CONCERN IS, DOES THE KAVA BAR SUDDENLY GET A LICENSE TO SELL? RIGHT. ALSO, YEAH, NOT THAT THEY WOULD, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT I AGREE. WELL ISN'T THERE A VAPE PLACE NEXT TO THE KAVA BAR I THINK, OR WASN'T THERE A GLASS SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MAYBE ADJACENT I DON'T KNOW, ARE THERE ANY STATES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS AND HAVE LIKE DO'S AND DON'TS? OH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE CHRIS AND I ESPECIALLY TALK AND CHRIS STARTED HE HAS EXPERIENCE IN COLORADO NOT NECESSARILY WITH THIS, BUT HE HAS EXPERIENCE OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE THERE AND IN OUR CITY MANAGER SAME THING. [01:15:03] AND THERE'S SO MANY THERE'S SO MANY ASPECTS WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO TOUCH. BUT THE STATE TIES OUR HANDS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, SO THIS IS OUR BEST SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE FEEL WE CAN WE CAN TOUCH ESPECIALLY EVEN THIS IS ANTICIPATING SOMETHING THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. OKAY. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IF IT DOES GET APPROVED, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE. AND THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF IN FROM OUR COMMISSION AS WELL, BEFORE WE GO TO FINAL, THIS WAS OUR KIND OF OUR FIRST DRAFT. THERE'S SOME SCRIVENER'S ERRORS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TIDY UP. PLUS YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I BELIEVE IT WAS, IF I'M HEARING IT CORRECTLY, 2500 FOR BOTH DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. AND SCHOOLS. YEP. OKAY. AND I THINK I MEAN I THINK FROM WHAT WE'VE SAID IS INSTEAD OF LIKE THIS LARGER AREA WHERE IT'S I MEAN, THE SMALL AREA WHERE IT'S EXCLUDED TO REALLY JUST LIMIT IT TO US ONE AND INDUSTRIAL OR WHAT AND WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. YEAH, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH ALL AND BASICALLY THE REST OF THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S BEING A RESPONSIBLE PLACEMENT. AND WHAT I'LL REITERATE, AND IT CAUSED CONFUSION EARLIER ON AND I APOLOGIZE, IS THE TWO MAPS. THE PURPOSE WE FELT OF THE TWO MAPS IS ONE IS THE MAP THAT WE SHOW THAT SHOWS ALL THE AREAS THAT CAN POTENTIALLY GO AND BE ALLOWABLE USE IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S A KIND OF JUST FOR STANDARD ZONING. THIS WHAT I CALL EXCLUSION ZONE MAP THAT WILL CREATE AS A NEW FIGURE. WE WANT THAT ALSO IN CASE CODE CHANGES IN ZONING CHANGES. THIS ZONE CAN JUST SURVIVE. YEAH. THOSE THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT EXCLUSION ZONE SHOULD BE LARGER BECAUSE THE ZONING CHANGES ALL THE TIME. WE THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE, RIGHT? YEAH THIS IS WHY THESE MEETINGS HAPPEN. SO IT COULD CHANGE AT ANY TIME. AND I THINK MAKING THAT EXCLUSION ZONE LARGER AND HAVING IT GO DOWN OCEAN AND BEING IN EAST STUART AS WELL BY THE SCHOOL AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND 10TH STREET LIKE THOSE ALL NEED TO BE INCLUDED AREAS IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND EVEN LIKE I SAID, EVEN OVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE SAINT JOE'S OFF 10TH STREET, YOU HAVE REDEEMER OVER. NEAR THE NEW STARBUCKS, MAYBE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? AND NORTH OF THE BRIDGE, I KNOW WE YOU SHOWED A LITTLE AREA THAT IT COULD BE, ISN'T THERE FELIX UP THERE? FELIX ELEMENTARY. SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL BAKER. THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL STUFF IN THERE, BUT YOU WOULDN'T REALLY WANT IT. LIKE IT SHOULD STAY ON US ONE AND NOT GO UP. NOT GO. BECAUSE THERE'S HANEY CREEK PARK THERE. THERE'S FELIX, THERE'S FELIX RIGHT THERE ON BAKER. IT'S RIGHT WHERE THAT AREA IS CARVED OUT RIGHT THERE, WHICH I KNOW IT HAS TO BE 20. WE'RE ASKING FOR 2500FT FROM THAT ANYWAY ANYWAY, BUT WE SHOULD EXCLUDE IT AS WELL. I AGREE, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF US ONE AND BAKER ROAD IS OUR HANEY CREEK PRESERV. RIGHT. THAT PINK PROPERTY THAT IS A PRESERVE AREA. SO THAT WOULD NEVER BE. AND THE STUFF WEST ON OR EAST ON BAKER ROAD IS AVONLEA, COMMERCE PARK. THERE'S A CURRENT DISPENSARY JUST AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN NORTH WHERE IT SAYS HIGHWAY. IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT NEXT TO MY DAUGHTER'S DANCE STUDIO. IT'S JUST. NOPE. STOP. GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT INCONVENIENT, RIGHT AROUND FEDERAL HIGHWAY, WHERE IT SAYS THE TEXT. ACROSS ON THE WEST SIDE IS THE TRUE, TRUE, YEAH. AND ISN'T THERE ONE OVER BY WHERE? LIKE IT USED TO BE. SONNY'S. ISN'T THERE ANOTHER HEALTHY NEXT TO SONNY'S? WHERE THE OLD DENTIST OFFICE USED TO BE? AND THERE'S ALSO A CURE LEAF. I BELIEVE THE CURE LEAF WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF US. ONE FURTHER NORTH, OUTSIDE OUR BOUNDARY. YEAH, YEAH, THERE'S A SEPARATE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S. YEAH, THAT'S MORE. YEAH. OKAY. SO DO YOU NEED SOMETHING, A FORMAL MOTION FROM US? FORMAL, OR ARE YOU JUST GETTING JUST GOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS? I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERBAL ENOUGH FOR YOU TO DO SO. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING. NO, I MEAN, WE DO APPRECIATE IT, PRETTY MUCH, BECAUSE WE'RE GLAD YOU. HONESTLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TELL MIKE MARTEL THIS TOO. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING YOU'RE BRINGING TO US. I WISH WE WOULD GET MORE OF THIS TYPE OF THING BECAUSE WE ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY AND OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY. AND SO ASKING OUR INPUT ON THINGS LIKE THIS, AS PEOPLE THAT ARE BUSINESS OWNERS, THAT ARE PARENTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN HERE FOR YEARS, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE OF. RIGHT. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, TOO, I MEAN, I JUST APPRECIATE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER WHEN WE'RE OUT. NOT I DON'T REALLY KNOW EVERYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS I APPRECIATE THE BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYBODY'S HOLDING THEIR CARDS CLOSE TO THEIR CHEST AND YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S THINKING. SO THIS IS A NICE WAY TO YEAH, FLESH SOME OF IT OUT I AGREE I SO PLEASE I THINK IF WE HAVE MORE OF THESE TYPE OF THINGS I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL USE FOR THIS BOARD. DON'T WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. AND JODY YOU GUYS GOOD OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF UPDATES? NOTHING. NO. CHAIR * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.