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ALRIGHTY. THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ROLL CALL? YES, CHAIR. LORRAINE. HER.
VICE CHAIR FORBES. BOARD MEMBER. BROMFIELD. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. MATHERS. HERE. BOARD MEMBER.
PETERSON. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. STROM. HERE. AND THEN THERE'S A VACANT. ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL.
LET'S EVERYBODY LET A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THE
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AGENDA. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? MOVE. APPROVAL. SECOND.SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING,
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WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2024. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE.APPROVAL. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, GREAT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA RELATED ITEMS? I DON'T HAVE ANY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE COMMENTS BY THE BOARD
[2. 710 SE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD - MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD) ZONING DISTRICT (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2532-2024; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, TO REZONE A 2.4-ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 710 SE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, BEING MORE DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT "A" ATTACHED, FOR MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD) ZONING DESIGNATION TO ALLOW A VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY ONLY; PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR FIRST ITEM UP. THE 710 MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD. MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ZONING DISTRICT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JODY COOGLER. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR A REZONE PETITION TO READ IN THE TITLE OF THE ORDER. OH. I'M SORRY. OH, YOU WANT ME TO READ THE WHOLE THING? OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I APOLOGIZE, PROCEDURALLY CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT IN THE PAST, BUT THAT'S FINE. WE CAN DO THAT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2532 DASH 2024. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE A 2.4 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 710 SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD, BEING MORE DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A ATTACHED FOR MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS KPD ZONING DESIGNATION TO ALLOW VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY ONLY PROVIDING DIRECTIONS TO THE CITY CLERK. PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AGAIN MY NAME IS JODY KUGLER. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. TONIGHT I WILL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR A REZONE POSITION TO REESTABLISH THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE PROJECT. LIFT DEVELOPMENT. PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. PUBLIC NOTICE IS REQUIREMENTS ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2024, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF THE TONIGHT'S MEETING. PUBLIC HEARING. ADDITIONALLY, THREE SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE 2.4 ACRE PROPERTY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE VISTA VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, IS LOCATED AT 710 SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD AND IS BOUNDED BY THE SOUTHEAST TARPON AVENUE TO THE EAST, SOUTHEAST LAKE STREET TO THE SOUTH, AND MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH. THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CRA AND THE EAST STUART NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED BY THE KPD. COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPERTY PROPERTY SITUATED TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST, ARE DESIGNATED BY THE GENERAL RESIDENTIAL OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED BUSINESS MIXED USE. THE SUBJECT PARCEL AND ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED BY THE EAST STUART FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE EAST STUART FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ONLY APPLIES TO LAND AREAS WITHIN THE CRA, AND IS SPECIFIC TO THE EAST STUART NEIGHBORHOOD. PERMITTED USES INCLUDE LOW DENSITY AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE, RECREATIONAL, AND MIXED USE PROJECTS. THE PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CRB AND THE LPA ON AUGUST 6TH AND AUGUST 8TH OF 2024, AND WAS RECOMMENDED BY THIS BOARD, WITH CONDITIONS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION. HOWEVER, DURING THE FIRST READING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION ON AUGUST 26TH, 2024, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE
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CRA REVISE THE BMU REZONE PETITION INSTEAD. PROPOSED THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION. THIS ALSO ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL OR THE MAJOR URBAN CONDITIONAL CODE. CONDITIONAL USE PETITION. I APOLOGIZE, IT ACTUALLY STILL REQUIRES A MINOR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION. BUT LIKE I POINTED OUT THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THE SITE PLAN SINCE THE BOARD REVIEWED AND APPROVED IT ON AUGUST 6TH, 2024. AS ONLY REASON WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IS TO REQUEST A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2532 DASH 2024 FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION, AND TO ALLOW A VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY AS A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE CPU AND KPD AND APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN FOR PROJECT LIFT. AND STAFF IS REQUESTING THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION, TO APPROVE THE PROJECT LIFT SITE PLAN AND TO ALLOW FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITIES. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? DID YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM? OH, THERE'S THE LADY RIGHT HERE. USUALLY HAS THE FORMS SUGAR. YEAH. I THINK YOU COULD FILL IT OUT AFTER YOU SPEAK. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. WE JUST HAVE TO. I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S A BIG DEAL. WE HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE A FORM. SO ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A FORM, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU'RE UP. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES CHRISTIE, THE THIRD, AND I'M STANDING UP ON BEHALF OF THE EAST HILL COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. OKAY. AND I LIKE TO CONTINUE TO STATE OUR DISPLEASURE WITH THIS UPDATE. IN LIEU OF THAT, WILL BE DESTROYING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THAT AREA FOR YEARS. PART OF THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS DONE BY THE WHOLE SITUATION. I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, AND I'M ALSO DISAPPOINTED WITH, I GUESS, BEING LED TO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A JOINT VENTURE PROPERTY THAT A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY STORE THAT WAS PROMISED THE BUSINESS INCUBATOR FOR THAT AREA, THAT DISAPPEARED AND THINGS CHANGE.
AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LOCATION THAT ONLY IT WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE PUBLIC SPACES FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE. AND IT JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGED. WE'RE VERY UPSET. AND I HEAR THE CONTINUOUS FIRE AND JUST ABOUT EVERY MEETING REGARDING THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING AND THE DISPLEASURE OF HOW THIS WAS DONE AND THE FACT THAT WE FEEL AS THAT WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE THERE THAT WILL BENEFIT AND THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE THE CITY? I REQUEST IN OUR SUPPORT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AN AREA FOR TO ADDRESS ECONOMIC INJUSTICE. AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY. ALL RIGHT.
BOARD, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE A COMMENT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE SO WE APPROVED IT AS I THINK BUSINESS MIXED USE. AND SO THE COMMISSION HAD A PROCEDURAL ISSUE WITH WHAT WE RECOMMENDED AND WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED. AND THEY WANTED TO GO BACK TO KPD. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THE BOARD HAD REQUESTED THAT WE GO BACK TO JUST AMENDING THE EXISTING PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW THIS USE, NOT TO REZONE IT TO A BMU, A MIXED USE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME? I'LL SAY ME BECAUSE I'M NEW. WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE? LIKE WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE BMU VERSUS KEEP? LIKE WHY WAS IT CHANGED IN THE FIRST PLACE? IF THE ZONING WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED UNDER THE INITIAL THE IN LIKE CURRENT LAND USAGE, WHY WOULD WHY WERE WE CHANGING IT AND THEN WHY DID WE GO BACK I GUESS. SO THE PROPOSED BMU, WHICH IS THE BUSINESS MIXED USE,
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HAS A LIST OF PERMITTED USES. IF THIS WAS ZONED TO A BMU, THOSE LIST OF USES COULD BE UTILIZED AT ANY TIME AS THE CITY WANTED TO ASSURE THAT THEY, THE PROPERTY WAS ONLY GOING TO BE USED FOR VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY, SO THE THEY REQUESTED STAFF TO GO BACK AND TO AMEND TO ALLOW THE EXISTING KPD INTO AMEND THE USE TO VOCATIONAL FACILITIES. VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY ONLY. OKAY, SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN SOMEONE, AS THIS GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE MORE OF A BUSINESS, MIXED USE, SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE OTHER THINGS THERE AND WHY IT WAS AMENDED TO ONLY BEING VOCATIONAL. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST INTERJECT THAT FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY ATTORNEY BACK IN THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY A COMMUNITY REZONING. IT WAS A STRAIGHT ZONING TYPE. THE COMMISSION DIDN'T LIKE THAT. THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT AS A COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL KPD, WHICH IS THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT ORIGINALLY HAD. SO, SO UNDER THE ORIGINAL, THEY YOU COULD ONLY HAVE ONE PLAN.EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE STRAIGHT ZONING, YOU HAVE OUR ZONING AREAS AND DISTRICTS. YOU CAN TAKE A PROJECT AND GO STRAIGHT THROUGH OUR ZONING, OR YOU ALSO HEAR THE TERM PUD. WE HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YEAH I KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THE PD AS A CUSTOM ZONING DISTRICT, IF YOU WANT TO CREATE A CUSTOM ZONING DISTRICT AT ANY TIME YOU CREATE A KPD, IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD, YOUR BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION. TECHNICALLY, IF YOU GO THROUGH STRAIGHT ZONING, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BOARD. AS LONG AS YOU MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE OR A CONDITIONAL USE. YOU DO HAVE TO BRING THOSE ISSUES UP. AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE IN THE PREVIOUS PETITION FOR THE NEW. I THINK IT'S BEEN AWESOME TO GET UP HERE, BUT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN PLAY FOR YEARS, COUPLE YEARS, AND THEY'VE HAD MANY BOARD MEETINGS AND OTHER TYPES OF OUTREACH MEETINGS DESCRIBING THE PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT HERE APPROVING THE PROJECT AS A PROJECT. OKAY. YOU'RE COMING BEFORE YOU ON THE ZONING ISSUE. OKAY. WE'RE BEFORE YOU TO AMEND THE CURRENT CPM TO ALLOW THIS TO. SO ANYTIME YOU AMEND THE USE OR BUILDING OR WHATNOT IN THE KPD, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.
YEAH. NO, I GOT THAT PART. BUT COULD YOU ALSO AMEND IT TO ALLOW A BUSINESS INCUBATOR SO THAT IT'S NOT RESTRICTED JUST TO THE VOCATIONAL? YEAH, THAT'S MY CONCERN TOO. SO WITH THAT IN AS ANOTHER CONDITION AND THEN MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD IT GOES FROM PROJECT LIFT TO BUSINESS INCUBATOR. OR COULD YOU HAVE BOTH THINGS. THEY'RE CLOSE. YEA. BUT IT INCLUDES ENTREPRENEURSHIP TRAINING. AND THERE'S GONNA BE A VARIETY OF TRAINING CLASSES OFFERED THERE BY WHOM? PROJECT LIFT. OH, PROJECT LIFT IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE ENTIRE THING IN THE. OKAY. SO THE OTHER THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS THE THIS IS STRICTLY ZONING, NOT SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR KPD SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT GOES THROUGH THE I'VE NEVER DONE A I'VE NEVER SEEN A KPD THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE LPA FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY? THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL? YES. SO THAT'S I'VE NEVER HAD. BILL. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A KPD? NO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN. SO WHY IS THAT? WHAT? WHAT'S HAPPENING DIFFERENT HERE? THE KPD SITE PLAN IS NOT GOING TO BE REVIEWED BY US. NO, I KNO, I'M ASKING THEM WHY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A VALID QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. SO IN YOUR CODE YOU CAN EITHER GO THROUGH A KPD FOR USE ONLY OR YOU CAN GO WITH A SITE PLAN. BUT THIS IS UNDER THE 50,000FT■!S. SO THIS COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO STAFF HAS BROUGHT IT THROUGH. IT'S JUST FOR USE FOR A PARTICULAR USE ONLY. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT. YEAH. IF YOU WANT A PRESENTATION ON THE SITE PLAN WE DO HAVE KIMLEY-HORN HERE. CAN PRESENT THE SITE PLAN IF THAT'S THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD I THINK. DIDN'T WE SEE THE SITE PLAN? DID WE SEE THE SITE PLAN IN AUGUST? WE DID SEE IT, BUT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT. WE DIDN'T REVIEW. WHAT IS THERE? THERE'S A TIME CONSTRAINT, ISN'T THERE? RIGHT. YEAH. WITH THE GRANTS.
RIGHT. SO I HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THE GRANT BY MARCH 2026. SO I HAVE TO HAVE THIS APPROVED BY END OF THIS YEAR. GO OUT FOR RFP TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION. WE NEED AT LEAST
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12 MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION. YEA. SO NO, YOU GUYS ARE BASICALLY SAYING IF WE HAD A PLAT, WE HAD A LARGER LOTS WITHIN A KPD, BUT THE ORIGINAL PUD ALLOWS YOU TO DEVELOP INDIVIDUAL LOTS UNDER A, UNDER THE ZONING MASTER PLAN, BUT THE SITE PLANS RUN THROUGH STAFF. I'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE.THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR BELIEVES THAT THIS CAN BE PROCESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS 12,500 SQUARE FOOT. BUILDING. AND WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT EVEN RIGHT NOW. THE CURRENT ZONING IS KPD. SO IT IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE KPD TO ALLOW THIS SPECIFIC USE ON THE SITE. OKAY. I JUST SAY IT'S RARE THAT THAT EVER OCCURS, BUT I UNDERSTAND I THINK THE CODES DO ALLOW FOR VERY SMALL PARCELS THAT THE SITE PLAN CAN BE PROCESSED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH STAFF'S. OKAY. A LOT OF I'VE SEEN WITH LARGER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE WE APPROVE THE, THE LARGER PORTION LIKE A SHOPPING CENTER. AND THEY HAD OUT PARCELS, THE OUT PARCELS SOMETIMES WERE PROCESSED AT STAFF LEVEL BECAUSE THEY WERE SO SMALL WITH PRELIMINARY DOCUMENTS AND STUFF REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE MASTER KPD. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT WITH THAT TYPE OF EYE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE SOME OF THE CONCERNS BACK IN AUGUST WERE THAT THERE HAD NOT BEEN ENOUGH PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THAT EAST STUART WAS NOT AWARE. BUT AM I CORRECT THAT THERE'S BEEN LIKE THREE MEETINGS SINCE THEN IN THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF SPELL OUT THIS PROJECT SO THEY AND THEY'RE AWARE THEN THAT THERE IS STILL ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND BUSINESS INCUBATORS, ALL PART OF WHAT THAT PROJECT LIFT WILL DO. SPEAK TO HIS TO HIS COMMENT. RIGHT. AND WE AND HE HAS TAKEN A TOUR OF PROJECT LIFT. AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE WE'VE EXPRESSED THAT IT'S JUST NOT A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, ALTHOUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE SAYS VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, BUT A DEFINITION THAT ALSO MEANS INCUBATOR. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPELL OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT USES THAT GO INTO, YOU KNOW, VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU SAY A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IN THERE. IT CAN VARY. RIGHT? SO IT'S THE SAME THING WITH VOCATIONAL SCHOOL. YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRAINING PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHAT DOES THE GRANT SAY IT NEEDS TO BE. IT NEEDS TO BE A TRAINING PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE TO CREATE NEW 50 NEW JOBS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE AN INPUT IN SOME SUGGESTED USES WITHIN THE PARAMETER OF WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THE BOND AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING ALLOWED RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. SO WHEN THE, THE GRANT WAS ANNOUNCED, WE DID A PUBLIC NOTICE WHERE A PUBLIC COULD COME OUT AND GIVE RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE SHOULD APPLY FOR. AND WE HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THAT, AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE APPLY FOR A JOB TRAINING CENTER WHERE WE CREATE NEW JOBS. AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO PANDEMIC. SO BACK IN 2021, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT PANDEMIC. YOU KNOW, COVID HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL A FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW, NOT A FEW YEARS LATER, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME CONDITIONS, BUT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE TO MEET THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHO'S GOING TO CHOOSE OTHER WORDS. THIS IS GOING TO AN ENTITY THAT'S GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING AND OPERATE. RIGHT. THE CITY RECEIVED THE GRANT. SO THE CITY IS GOING TO GO OUT FOR RFP AND GOING TO CONSTRUCT AND BUILD A NEW FACILITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT LIFT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO STILL MAINTAIN IT THROUGH LEASE CONTROL, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY. IF PROJECT LIFT MOVES OUT IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY CAN DECIDE. WE'LL COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHAT USE SHOULD GO IN THERE. OKAY. SO THE COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO THE CITY TO HELP. IF THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN, MAYBE HAVE SOME INPUT ON WHAT IS GOING IN. SO THERE'S A GROUP THAT CAN LISTEN TO THAT OUTSIDE THE CITY. THAT'S GOING TO BE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY AND DETERMINATION.
RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT IS NOT DONE. AND OVER THE CITY OF STUART AND THEIR COMMUNITY, RIGHT, THAT THEY'RE A PART OF STILL HAVE INPUT INTO THIS ON USES. RIGHT. OKAY. BUT WE JUST CAN'T DO RETAIL OR GAS STATION OR SOME OF THESE USES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. IT HAS TO BE LIKE A TRAINING, RIGHT? JUST LET
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THE COMMUNITY KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN, I CAN SEE THEIR POINT AND AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THE CITY IS STILL NOT JUST TURNING IT OVER TO AN ENTITY THAT WILL THEY WILL LOSE CONTROL. THEY HAVE NO INPUT. THEY STILL ARE THE COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE. SO THEY'LL HAVE INPUT ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IS GOING TO BE THERE, HOW IT'S OPERATED AND THE CITY IS STILL IN CONTROL, AT LEAST IN THE PARTNERSHIP. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO FOR AND MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, BUT AS YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PROJECT LIFT, HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT WITH THE VOCATIONAL TECH IN THAT EAST STUART COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WOULD SPECIFICALLY PARTNER WITH EAST STUART TO HELP PROVIDE THIS TRAINING TO PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY? RIGHT, SO THEY KNOW THE TYPE OF WHAT TYPE OF JOBS INDUSTRIES ARE LOOKING FOR. THEY TRY TO TRAIN THE STUDENTS IN THOSE TYPE OF INDUSTRY AND TRADES. AND I KNOW THAT PROJECT LIFT HIRES FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO EVEN LIKE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEACHERS THAT THEY'LL BE LOOKING FOR, THEY'RE GOING TO HE'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. WITH THE EAST STUART COMMUNITY, NOT LIKE THE EAST STUART COMMUNITY. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO PROCEDURALLY, IT'S CURRENTLY A COULD. SO WE ARE VOTING ON A ZONING CHANGE TO KEEP IT AS COULD NORMALLY. THERE WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE KPD IF IT'S ALREADY KPD, WE WOULD AMEND THE KPD WITH WE'RE AMENDING THE KPD TO ALLOW A VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE CHANGING CONDITIONS, BECAUSE TODAY WHAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY IN THE PREVIOUS PD THAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY PERTAIN TO THE GAS STATION, TO RETAIL. IT ALL SPELLED IT OUT IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. NOW WE'RE COMING BACK AND AMENDING IT TO JUST ALLOW A VOCATIONAL TRAINING. AND THE OTHER THOSE OTHER USES ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED. JUST THIS. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHY IT STATES A VOCATIONAL TRAINING FACILITY ONLY BECAUSE THOSE USES WILL GO AWAY. ANY PREVIOUS ORDERS WITHIN THE PD. AND THIS USE WILL BE AS A ONLY PERMITTED USE AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND WHY IS THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS, BUT WHAT WERE THE CITY COMMISSION? WHAT WAS THE CITY COMMISSION'S THINKING AND NOT DOING IT? WHAT THEY WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED. SO ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS, IF THIS WENT STRAIGHT ZONING AND SAY PROJECT LIFT DECIDES TO BACK OUT OF THE PROGRAM AND SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN FORWARD, THEY CAN JUST COME IN AND GO AHEAD AND DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD AND GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH ANOTHER TYPE OF USE THAT WASN'T THE INTENT OF THE GRANT. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAYED WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE GRANT AND THE NEEDS OF THE EAST. STUART NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S WHY IT SPECIFICALLY ONLY HAS ONE PARTICULAR USE. AND BY DOING THAT, YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT THROUGH A COMMERCIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, SO THE STATE ZONING LIKE SHE MEANT LIKE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MENTIONED, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF USES. THERE'S A LONG LIST OF USES, MULTI-FAMILY. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES. AND I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS ARE CONCERNED THAT IF WE KEEP STRAIGHT ZONING IN THE FUTURE, SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND JUST DO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. OKAY. HAVE YOU GUYS MADE SURE IT'S BEEN CLEARED ENVIRONMENTALLY RIGHT. YEAH. THERE'S NO ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO HAUNT US, RIGHT? YOU MEAN LIKE A BROWNFIELDS GRANT OR SOME BROWNFIELDS BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING GAS STATION? THEY WILL HAVE TO. YEAH, WE'VE CLEARED THAT. YES, WE HAVE THE PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO COMPLETED. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REMOVED. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. YEAH. OKAY. WE ARE AT CURRENTLY THROUGH GOING THROUGH A ZONING IN PROGRESS. SO THE COMMISSION WE EVEN HAD A WORKSHOP EARLIER TODAY LOOKING AT REDOING THE CODE IN CHAPTER THREE, WHICH INCLUDES THE STUART IS UP NEXT. SO THERE MIGHT EVEN BE CHANGES TO THE BUSINESS MIXED USE ZONING ANYWAY. SO I THINK BY ALSO KEEPING IT ANOTHER REASON IN THEIR MIND WAS BY KEEPING IT A PUD. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY ANY CHANGES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO THE CODE. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO ONE ASKED IF THE GENTLEMAN WANTS TO TALK TO US AGAIN. GENTLEMEN. SIR, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BECAUSE A LITTLE WHILE AGO IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE RAISING YOUR HAND AGAIN.PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED REGARDING WHY THE ORIGINAL PLANS WERE CHANGED AND THE STATE OF TONIGHT THAT. AND I DISAGREE.
NOTHING IS STATED REGARDING THE BUSINESS INCUBATOR USE. AND THAT'S JUST LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT HOW THE BUILDING IS SET UP. NOW YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PLANS. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO SPACE FOR IT. OKAY? THERE'S NO MENTION ABOUT ANY DESIGNATED AREA FOR IT. THERE'S ONLY THE INFORMATION
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REGARDING THE PROGRAMS FROM PROJECT LIFT THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE. AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHY? WHY DID IT CHANG? I GOT NEWS REPORTS OF THE MAYOR STATING ABOUT ECONOMIC INJUSTICE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND STATING, FIRST, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS INCUBATOR AND VOCATIONAL TECH, OKAY? AND THE BUSINESS AND THE VOCATIONAL TECH STUFF IS GOOD. OKAY. IT'S GOOD.I THINK IT'LL BE BENEFICIAL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY IS A BUSINESS. IN THIS SITUATION. YOU HAVE A VO TECH SCHOOL DESIGNATED FOR TEENS, A FINITE GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE NEED BUSINESS IN THERE THAT EVERYBODY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. YOU GOT PEOPLE AT HOME BUSINESS YOU GOT PEOPLE WITH MAYBE FOOD TRUCKS.
YOU GOT PEOPLE WITH HOME BUSINESS THAT MAY NEED THAT PLACE AS A COFFEE PLACE, AS A MEETING PLACE. THAT'S HOW YOU DO ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT. AND THE FUNDS WERE CRA FUNDS THAT WERE DESIGNATED FOR THE BLIGHT OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT FOR OTHER ENTITIES. IT'S NOT THAT MANY TEENS IN THESE STUART TO FILL UP 60 SPOTS. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE COMMUNITY.
GOT 50 TEENAGERS COMING IN THER, 60 IN A DAY. MORE TRAFFIC, MORE THINGS. WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, OKAY? AND THAT WAS IGNORED WHEN IT WAS PUT OUT THERE. WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE? I THINK THAT'S WHY HE GOT COMMUNITY SUPPORT. OKAY. AND I WENT TO SEE TOUR OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE PROGRAM, BUT I AM A HOMEOWNER IN THE COMMUNITY. WITHIN 300FT OF THIS STRUCTURE. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAD A BUSINESS IN THAT BUILDING THAT'S BEING TORN DOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HAVE CONCERNS AND WE FEEL THEY'VE BEEN IGNORED. AND WHEN YOU HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND INFORMATION ABOUT WHATEVER, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WE JUST HAD IT. WHAT DID THE COMMUNITY SAY ABOUT IT? WHAT DID PEOPLE SAY IN HERE WHEN WE HAD ALL THESE MEETINGS, IT WAS ALWAYS SOMEBODY IN HERE, NOT JUST ME OPPOSING THIS, NOT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THE BEST FOR THAT AREA.
IT WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMICS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. OKAY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, LIKE YOU SAY, INPUT IN IT AND WE FEEL WE DON'T. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARINGS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. I AGREE 100%. YEAH. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. IS IT PEARLY? YES. YES MA'AM. PLEASE COME TO THE MIC. PEARLY CLARK. HI, MA'AM. YOU WANT TO JUST. WE DON'T WANT TO. WE DON'T WANT TO MISS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU MA'AM.
OKAY. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS IN EAST STUART. WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO TO COLLEGE, WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE, WHO DON'T WISH TO GO TO COLLEGE. HOWEVER, IF THEY LEARN A VOCATION, A MECHANIC, AN ELECTRICIAN, ALL THESE THINGS WERE AT HAND. THAT WILL WORK AND WE WILL SEE MORE PROGRESS. THEY COME BACK HOME, THEY ARE PROVIDE THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY. BUT I AM FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE. I JUST TURNED 80 AND I SEE YOUNG PEOPL, MY KIDS WAS BROUGHT UP HERE, SO I FEEL THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ACCESS TO THE EASTERN COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE PART? HE I THINK HE MADE A VALID POINT IN THAT THIS IS A PROJECT LIFT IS USUALLY GEARED TOWARDS TEENS, BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE VOCATIONAL TECH TO ME, ISN'T JUST ONE GROUP. I DON'T THINK IT'S TEENS. IT'S YOUNG ADULTS. I THINK UP TO 25 OR 26. I'M SORRY. BOB ZACH HERE FROM PROJECT LIFT IS NOT HERE BECAUSE WE HAD TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE LPA MEETING DUE TO THE HURRICANE, AND HE ALREADY HAD A PLANNED TRIP. SO HE'S ACTUALLY FLYING OUT TODAY. BUT HE DID MENTION THAT IT DOES GO UP TO AGE 2627.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TRAINING GROUPS. THEY HAVE A MORNING GROUP, AFTERNOON GROUP AND THEN THE EVENING GROUP. SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS THAT THAT RECEIVE TRAINING THROUGH THE
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THROUGH THE PROGRAM. AND THESE THESE KIDS OR YOUNG ADULTS, THEY ACTUALLY GET PAID THROUGH THE TRAINING. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING PAID AND THEY'RE LEARNING THE SKILLS AND AS FAR AS ALL THE OTHER TRAINING PROGRAMS, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH PROJECT LIFT THAT WAS ALSO BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION, AND IT SPECIFIES ALL THE DIFFERENT TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO OFFER. SO EVEN THOUGH THE ORDINANCE MIGHT NOT SAY IT, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. SO IT HAS MORE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. OKAY.PLUS WE STILL HAVE TO DO A LEASE AGREEMENT. SO WHEN WE DO THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT LIFT, WE CAN SPECIFY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAS COME UP DURING THESE MEETINGS. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW I HOPE I ADDRESSED ALSO AS FAR AS ADULT PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE WILL PROJECT LIFT WILL ADDRESS KIDS UP TO 2627. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A RECREATION CENTER AT 10TH STREET. AND NOW THAT THE, THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, DAYCARE CENTER IS NO LONGER THERE BECAUSE ALL THOSE KIDS ARE GOING TO BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THERE'S A THERE'S SPACE AVAILABLE TO DO OTHER PROGRAMS AT THE RECREATION CENTER. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE OUR, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DIMITROVSKI. AND HE'S MENTIONED THAT HE'S OPEN TO SOME IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WANT TO DO SOME ADULT PROGRAMS. SO I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN. YOU GET YOUNG FOLKS SKILLS, AND WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH THE OLDER FOLKS IN A DIFFERENT FACILITY WITHIN E STUART. OKAY. AND DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE DISCUSSION WITH PROJECT LIFT AS PART OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO PERHAPS GROW THE AGE THAT THEY COULD ALLOW SOME OF THESE CLASSES FOR? I THINK THIS IS REALLY HIS EXPERTISE. I THINK HE SAID THAT YOU LOSE THAT INTEREST LIKE THAT THE INTEREST FROM THE OLDER KIDS, LIKE THE WAY THEIR MODEL IS. IT JUST BENEFITS THOSE AGE GROUPS BECAUSE AFTER THAT AGE GROUP, IT'S HARD TO ENGAGE WITH THE OLDER PEOPLE. THEY'RE SET IN THEIR WAYS, BUT I THINK THE YOUNGER ONES STILL ARE OPEN TO DEVELOPMENT AND IT JUST WORKS WITH THEIR MODEL. HE WAS SAYING, TOO, THEY'RE NOT REALLY JUST VOCATIONAL TRAINING. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. THEY DO. THEY'RE TEACHING THEM HOW TO WRITE CHECKS, BALANCE BUDGETS. THEY'RE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES LIKE WHY ARE YOU LIKE, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL? AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO IT'S KIND OF AN LIKE HE HATES. I THINK THAT IT'S CONSIDERED JUST A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE STUDENT AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE SAME COMMENT ABOUT THE REC CENTER, BECAUSE NOW THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING DAYCARE THERE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR NEW PROGRAMS TO BRING IN THERE AND MAYBE PROJECT LIFT CAN PARTNER WITH THEM ON BUSINESS INCUBATORS FOR OLDER PEOPLE. BUT I'M ASSUMING PROJECT LIFT HAS A CHARTER THAT LIMITS THEIR AGE AND WHATEVER, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING HE'D NEED TO SPEAK TO. AND THEN AS FAR AS CRA FUNDS, I THINK WAS MENTIONED, IF THIS IS ALL FROM A GRANT, RIGHT, THIS IS 100% BEING COVERED BY A GRANT. THERE'S NOT ANY CRA FUNDS BEING USED FOR THIS, CORRECT? CORRECT. I JUST WANTED $1 MILLION. SO IT'S ALL BEING PAID THROUGH THE GRANT. OKAY. AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE USING ALL THEIR FACILITIES ON THE WEEKENDS. OKAY. IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, CHECK WITH THEM, SEE IF THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING THAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COULD USE SOME OF THE FACILITIES ON THE WEEKEND FOR, YOU KNOW, PREVENT OR SOME OF THEIR CLASSES OR, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S I KNOW THEY COULD DO IT. SO IF YOU CAN CHECK WITH THEM. YEAH. SEE IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING IN THE MEANTIME THE GENTLEMAN CAN CHECK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SEE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOME USES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT THEY COULD HAVE WEEKENDS AND STUFF. SO YEAH. AND I KNOW YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE WALL ON THE GRANT. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. YEAH.
SO I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED AND I'VE SEEN YOU AT OTHER MEETINGS AT COMMISSION MEETINGS. JUST STAY INVOLVED. KEEP TELLING US WHAT YOU NEED AND WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING HAPPENING AND COME TO MEETINGS. AND IT WILL BE YOUR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S PART OF OUR CITY. YOU KNOW, WE STILL WE'RE NOT LOSING CONTROL OR YOU'RE NOT LOSING INPUT INTO IT. IT'LL CONTINUE. AND THEN COULD WE JUST LIKE, HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN MAYBE TALK TO THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THE DIRECTOR FOR THE 10TH STREET TO SEE IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE INPUT. I KNOW THAT, LIKE, SOMETIMES IN THAT FACILITY, I'VE HEARD, OH, THEY DO LACROSSE PROGRAMS OR WHATEVER. I WOULD LIKE THE STUART COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE NOT AN OUTSIDE GROUP THAT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS, NOT WHO WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, RENT FEE. THIS NEEDS TO BE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. SURE. YEAH. YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES. MY THOUGHTS TOWARDS MR. CHRISTIE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FUNDS SLATED AND THIS
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PROJECT IS SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD, PARTNER WITH THE CHURCHES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COMING AND THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE REALLY GET PREPARED AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND FOR MOST OF THAT TIME THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT AND I THINK SKILLS ARE GREAT. SO PLAN ON, YOU KNOW, REALLY ENGAGING AND MAXIMIZING THE OPPORTUNITY WHILE IT'S THERE AND THINGS CHANGE. YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE ALL THE TIME. SO LET'S MAXIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF WE IF WE SIT AROUND AND THIS MONEY, THE TIMING ON THIS MONEY EXPIRES, THEN WHO BENEFITS? NOBODY. SO I WOULD REALLY GO OUT TO THE CHURCHES AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS COMING AND REALLY PUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO MAXIMIZE IT. IF WE REALLY WANT TO GET THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE CHANGES ARE INEVITABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM BEFORE US. ANYBODY HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL THE VOTE? YES. MARGARET. BOARD MEMBER BRUMFIELD. YES. BOARD MEMBER. MATHERS. YES.BOARD MEMBER. PETERSON. YES. BOARD MEMBER. STRUM. YES. AND CHAIR. LORRAINE. YES. OKAY.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE A STAFF UPDATE? OTHER THAN RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN ZIP IN PROGRESS.TODAY WE HAD OUR SECOND WORKSHOP AND WE WILL BE HAVING A THIRD WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE URBAN DISTRICT CHAPTER THREE AND ALL THE OVERLAYS. ON NOVEMBER 19TH FROM 9:00 TO 1:00. OKAY, FANTASTIC. AND WELCOME. ARE YOU GOING TO BE HERE FOR OUR MEETINGS FROM NOW ON? NO, IT WILL STILL BE SUZANNE. OH, OKAY. YOU'RE JUST FILLING IN FOR THE NIGHT. I APPRECIATE. ALL RIGHT.
GREAT. FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. IF WE HAVE NOTHING
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