Mar 04, 2025 Community Redevelopment Board

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ALL YOURS. ALL RIGHT. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. CHAIR. BRECHBILL. HERE. VICE CHAIR. MOSER. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. JAMES. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. MONROE. BOARD MEMBER MCCRYSTAL. BOARD MEMBER. SCHERER. HERE. AND BOARD MEMBER. WHALEN. ALL RIGHT. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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I CAN PAY THE 131, BUT I STILL WON'T GET MY WATER CUT OFF. BUT THAT'S THE BILL THAT'S BEHIND.

BUT I HAD TO PAY THE $257 BEFORE I CAN GET MY WATER TO TURN ON. WHY ARE YOU DOING WHY THE CITY OF STUART DOING PEOPLE LIKE THAT? I KNOW THEY GO. THEY DOING PEOPLE LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE A HARD TIME PAYING WHAT IT IS. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DOUBLE IT UP LIKE THAT. THAT JUST DON'T SEEM, YOU KNOW, FAIR TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE ISSUES. IT'S HARD TIME. AND THEN ABOUT THE CRA MONEY ALLEGEDLY. AND I REFERRED IT TO THE MAYOR. YOU DON'T GIVE A HELPING THE CHURCH.

I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT TRUE? THAT'S THE RUMOR GOING AROUND AND STUFF. BUT I CAN'T GET NOTHING THERE TO DO IMPROVE MY LAWN, GET ALL THE ROCKS AND STUFF OUT. WHAT? THEY BROUGHT IN RUGS ALL IN THE YARD WHERE THEY DUMPED IN THERE. I'M DIGGING UP, TRYING TO PLANT STUFF, BUT I CAN'T GET NOTHING WORTH TO HELP ME OUT WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO HIDE IF THAT TRUE, BUT THAT WAS THE RUMORS GOING AROUND SOMEBODY, SOME CHURCH LIKE THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

BUT THEN PUT SOME OF THE MONEY OVER IN EAST STUART. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANY

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[2. PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ANNUAL REPORT 2024]

FOR PUBLIC TO REVIEW. AND SEE WHAT THE WHAT CRA IS WORKING ON. AND ONCE THE REPORT IS APPROVED BY THE CRA, WE'LL SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE AND OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES. THE REPORT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR ANNUAL IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. SO IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG, I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY WALK YOU THROUGH IT. AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON. THIS IS A TABLE OF CONTENT. IT OUTLINES THE SECTIONS IN THE REPORT. WE HAVE ALSO A SECTION TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT. THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE DESCRIBES THAT THE CRA WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 1986. AND IT WAS REESTABLISHED AND THE TRUST FUND WAS CREATED IN 1998, WHICH IS THE BASE YEAR FOR CALCULATING OUR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. AND THEN WE EXPANDED THE CRA IN 2002 TO INCLUDE EASTWARD NEIGHBORHOOD. FURTHER EXPANDED IN 2006 TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. AND THEN WE EXPANDED IN 2000, 15, AND 16. TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL 486 ACRES OF CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY. SO THAT MAKES UP OUR CRA ONE CRA. IT'S NOT DIFFERENT CRAS. AND WE HAVE ONE ONE TIF REVENUE TO CONTRIBUTE THROUGHOUT THE CRA. WE ALSO AMENDED THE CRA PLAN FROM TIME TO TIME. AND IT WAS LAST AMENDED AND ADOPTED BY THE CRA BOARD LAST YEAR. IT REALLY SERVES AS A GUIDE FOR IMPLEMENTING SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR REVITALIZATION. THIS SECTION HERE DESCRIBES THE CRA BOUNDARY AND HOW THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING WORKS. IT TALKS ABOUT THE EXPANSION 2002, 2006, AND 2015, AND THE INCREMENT TAX REVENUE FROM THOSE BASE YEARS AND WHAT IT IS. AND WHAT IT WAS IN 2023? YES. COULD YOU COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT SECTION A LITTLE BIT JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT AND WHAT THAT MEANS? YEAH. SO OUR CRA WAS ESTABLISHED REESTABLISHING THE TIF REVENUE WAS THE TRUST FUND WAS CREATED IN 1998. SO THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY OF THE CRA.

THERE IS A BASE VALUE THAT WAS LOCKED IN IN 1998. AND SO IN 1998 THAT THAT CORE AREA, THE VALUE WAS ABOUT 104 MILLION. AND IN 2024 THE VALUE IS ABOUT 542 MILLION. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE

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AND THEN IN 20 AND WHEN WE EXPANDED THE BOUNDARY IN 2015 FOR THAT AREA, IT WAS 187 MILLION. AND TODAY IT'S 329 MILLION. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VALUES HAVE GONE UP SINCE SINCE THE CRA WAS EXPANDED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BASE AND TODAY'S VALUE. NOW JUST ANOTHER COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE THIS IS A TRUST FUND TYPE ARRANGEMENT. RIGHT. SO IT'S A FUND ACCOUNTING SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TRUST FUNDS AND THOSE FUNDS ARE FUNDED. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T TAKE MONEY FROM ONE FUND AND PUT IT IN IN GENERAL CAN'T TAKE MONEY FROM THE CRA TRUST FUND AND PUT IT INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND. RIGHT? YES. SO THE TRUST FUND, JUST TO USE IT WITHIN THE CITY, WE HAVE TO USE IT IN HERE AND BACK ABOUT WHAT WAS IT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO? 12 YEARS AGO? THERE WAS A THEY ACTUALLY HAD EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE FUNDS. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY THEY STRIPPED THEM OUT. I FORGET WHO THAT WAS. IT WAS EITHER PAUL OR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. YOU MEAN SALARIES, YOU MEAN. WELL, THE TRUST FUND WAS. AND MAYBE LEE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE TRUST FUND WAS A OR THE TRUST ACCOUNT ARRANGEMENT. THE TRUSTS, THEY ACTUALLY FUNCTIONED ALMOST LIKE SEPARATE ENTITIES. THEY HAD PERSONNEL AND ALL THAT. EXACTLY.

BUT AT SOME POINT WE TOOK THE PERSONNEL COMPONENT OUT OF THAT. RIGHT. SO IT JUST BECAME JUST FUNDING THE PROJECTS. YEAH, YEAH. AND THERE WAS NO THERE WAS NO PERSONNEL ISSUES. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE PROBABLY MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AT SOME POINT. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT BECAUSE IT KIND OF TIES OUR HANDS IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO SUPPORT THE CITY THAT WE CAN'T DO, YOU KNOW, WITH JUST FUNDING. ANYWAY, I JUST MENTIONED THAT I THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WHEN IT HAPPENED, AND IT KIND OF JUST WENT THROUGH, BUT I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAPPENED THEN. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DID BEFORE WE DID THAT, IT HELPED US GET THROUGH THE RECESSION THAT WE HAD IN THE IN 2020, OH 728. RIGHT. 22 0909. WE ONLY HAVE TWO STAFF IN THE CRA IS JORDAN AND I. AND I PRIOR TO THAT, WHEN THEY WERE FUNDING SALARIES AND ANY, ANY, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS AND THINGS THAT COMES OUT OF TIF REVENUE. THEY HAD MORE STAFF. THEY HAD 4 TO 5 PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHY THEY PROBABLY DECIDED THAT IT WAS ALL GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS. AND THEN THEY WERE JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON PROJECTS WITH THE TIF REVENUE. BUT AT THAT TIME, ALSO THE TIF REVENUE WAS NOT AS LARGE AS IT IS TODAY. SO, RIGHT. SUPPORT THE OPERATION OF THE CRA. YOU'RE ONLY FUNDING TWO SALARIES, RIGHT? BUT BACK AGAIN, BACK IN I THINK IT WAS 2009, 2010. WE WERE STRUGGLING TO FUND POLICE. AND IN DURING THAT RECESSION. AND I REMEMBER WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO POLICE OFFICERS, I THINK THAT WERE ASSIGNED WITHIN THE CRA WERE INCLUDED IN THE CRA BUDGET.

YEAH, THAT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE. BUT I KNOW THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO FUND THAT. NOW. THEY HAD TO THEY HAD TO BE IN THE CRA. SO THEY PATROLLED IN THE CRA. BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY GOT AN EMERGENCY CALL, THEY COULD LEAVE. SO IT REALLY IT HELPED US OUT THROUGH A TOUGH TIME. I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THOSE OPTIONS AS MUCH NOW. I'M JUST NOT SURE WHY WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT FUNDING ANY POLICE OFFICERS OR ANY OF THAT RIGHT. WITH THE CRA FUNDS RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT ALLOWED. WELL, OR IS IT WOULD THE BOARD JUST TAKE ACTION? YOU WOULD JUST CREATE IT. YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE OF POLICE IN THE CRA. YOU HAVE THE FUNDS AND YOU WOULD JUST SAY, JUST GO DO IT.

WELL, THE WAY THAT THEY RESTRUCTURED, I THINK, IS THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE THEY ELIMINATED PERSONNEL FROM THE CRA FROM THE YEAR TWO THOUGH WE STILL HAVE TWO. RIGHT. WELL, YES. THEY'RE DIRECTLY YES, THEY'RE DIRECTLY IN, IN THE CRA TO MANAGE. BUT THE OTHER CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PORTION OF IT, THEY KIND OF ELIMINATED, I THINK IS WHAT HAPPENED. THEY ELIMINATED ANY OF THOSE EMPLOYEES. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT KIND OF A LITTLE BIT TAKES AWAY BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE CRA AND THAT WORK OUTSIDE THE CRA THAT WOULD BE MISUSING THE TIF, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE FUNDING SALARY FOR A POLICE OFFICER.

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WE ALSO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL STREET TREE PROGRAM, WHICH WE STARTED A FEW YEARS AGO TO INCREASE TREE CANOPY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN THE CRA, WE DID DATA ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY WHICH AREA NEEDED THE TREES MOST, AND WE PRIORITIZE THOSE AREAS BASED ON THE TREE COUNT. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN REQUEST A FREE TREE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE FROM THE RECOMMENDED TREE LIST. AND THE CITY WOULD GO AND INSTALL THOSE TREES FOR THE HOMEOWNER. WE TYPICALLY DO THIS AROUND SPRINGTIME, SO WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RAINFALL AND MAXIMIZE THE CHANCES OF THEIR SURVIVAL. SINCE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE PLANTED 27 TREES IN JUST THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE'RE PURSUING. DESIGNATION OF EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT. THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN FALL 2024, AND THE STATE IS REVIEWING THE NOMINATION APPLICATION. THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE STATE TO GET BACK TO US. AND WHEN THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT MEETING. AND THEN ONCE THE STATE COMPLETES THE FINAL REVIEW, THEY THIS AREA, EAST AURORA, WILL BE DESIGNATED AS A AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND WE WOULD DO A PLAQUE, A CELEBRATION AND THEN ALSO AND THEN DISSIPATION. FOR THIS DESIGNATION, WE ALSO LAUNCHED A WEBSITE TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE RICH HISTORY OF EAST YOUR COMMUNITY, ALSO KNOWN AS LINCOLN PARK, BECAUSE WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND SITES THAT ARE WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS IN THE FUTURE. WE ALSO LAUNCHED A NEW PROGRAM CALLED AIRES PROPERTY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO HELP CLEAR TITLES TO PROPERTIES SO THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A CLEAR TITLE, SUCH AS BEING ABLE TO GET LOANS. ALSO APPLY FOR STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS. QUALIFY FOR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. BE ABLE TO GET HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE. SO GOD FORBID IF THERE'S EVER A HURRICANE THEY HAVE INSURANCE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTY. AND WE PROVIDE

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SO YEAH, IT WILL TAKE SOME STAFF TIME TO, TO DO THAT. YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM. BUT YOU KNOW IT'S THE EAST STEWART GETS LEFT BEHIND IN A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT COMES DURING THE RISING MARKETS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET CLEAR TITLE SOMETIMES TO THEIR PROPERTY. THEY CAN'T FINANCE THEIR PROPERTY TO DO HOME IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW. AND SO I REALLY THINK THIS PROGRAM NEEDS TO IS A GOOD PROGRAM. AND IF WE CAN GET IT OUT THERE, I THINK WE CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO THAT TURN MY LIGHT ON. SURE, I MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU WITH GETTING THAT OUT. I BELIEVE SOME OF MY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU FOR INFORMATION. YES. HOMEOWNERS. YES. SO IF YOU WOULD GET THAT TO ME, AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD ASK SISTER BRINKLEY, WERE YOU DID YOU GET ANY OF THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT WAS AVAILABLE? NO. SO IF WE CAN ASSIST IN GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO THE. I KNOW MISS BRINKLEY DID COME UP TO THE CRA OFFICE AND SPOKE TO JORDAN DIRECTLY, AND SHE WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I JUST DON'T KNOW. I GUESS MAYBE SHE JUST HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO APPLY FOR IT. BUT YES, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU SO YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN EAST STEWART APPLY. THANK YOU. AND THEN IN 2020, IN MAY 2024, DURING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, WE ALSO DEDICATED HISTORIC MARKER FOR WOMEN'S CLUB OF STEWART CLUBHOUSE. CRA IS ALSO FUNDING MEMORIAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT $1 MILLION IN REVENUE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER AT MEMORIAL PARK. THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE COVERED STAGE AREA, LAWN SEATING, LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND OTHER PARK AMENITIES. THIS IS JUST PARTIALLY BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE CRA, AND MOST OF IT IS COMING FROM ARPA. GRANT AND PUBLIC WORKS IS LEADING THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS OR PROJECT PROGRESS COME THROUGH THIS BOARD ON THIS, BUT THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS FUNDED IN DECEMBER 20TH, 2024.

AND I THINK IT DID COME TO THE BOARD FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT. WE FUND THE OPERATION OF THE TRAM SYSTEM. THE TRAM ROUTE WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING AFTER THE CITY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY. AND WE USED THAT PARKING LOT AS PUBLIC PARKING AFTER 5 P.M. AND ON WEEKENDS, CREATING ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR DOWNTOWN VISITORS. WE DID INCREASE RIDERSHIP FROM THAT LOCATION IN 2024. WE ALSO HAVE ADVERTISING PANELS ON TOP OF THE TRAMS THAT GENERATED ABOUT $4,000 IN REVENUE IN 2024, AND WE ALSO RENT THESE OUT FOR PRIVATE EVENTS THAT GENERATED ABOUT $1,500 IN REVENUE. WE'RE ALSO WRAPPING THE TRAMS WITH BRIGHT COLORS AND IMAGES TO INCREASE VISIBILITY AND PROMOTE RIDERSHIP. I THINK WE SHOULD BE. I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN TRAMS. WE SHOULD BE DONE WRAPPING ALL OF THEM BY SUMMER OF THIS YEAR. ALL THE TRAM DRIVERS, THEY ARE WITHIN THE CR, OR DO THEY GET OUT OF THE CRA FUNDS OR ARE THEY OUT OF THE CITY FUNDS? THE TRAM WRAPS? NO, THE TRAM DRIVERS. OH, THE DRIVERS ARE PAID. WE DO PAY FOR THE TRAM DRIVERS. YEAH, IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE CRA THROUGH THE CRA. OKAY. WELL, ONE OTHER QUESTION. WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A WATER TRAM SOMETIME BACK, BUT WE NEVER GOT FULLY INTO IT. HAVE HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT LOOKING AT AT TRYING TO CONNECT WATER TAXI, YOU MEAN. YEAH, I CALL IT A WATER TRAM, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO CONNECT INDIAN

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FIVE PROJECTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED THIS SUMMER, AND ONE PROJECT IS WAITING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE. AND THE LAST ONE PROJECT IS WAITING FOR DIRECTION FROM FLORIDA COMMERCE.

SINCE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS WITH WORK COMPLETED BY A CONTRACTOR. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, CITY CONSULTANT IN FLORIDA COMMERCE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, RESOLVE THE ISSUES ON THE ON ONE PROPERTY. CAN I ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PROGRAM? THAT'S FOR HOMEOWNERS. THAT'S FOR HOMEOWNERS HOUSING REHAB, RIGHT. AND NOT RENTAL. STRICTLY NOT RENTAL. THEY HAVE TO OWN THE HOME. RIGHT. OKAY. THANKS. AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO HOW DOES ONE QUALIFY FOR THAT. THEY WE HAVE WE HAVE A ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA. DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW THE NUMBERS LIKE THREE LOW INCOME HOMES TWO AT LEAST MEET LOW TO MEDIUM HOUSEHOLD. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENT CRITERIA WE HAVE TO MEET AS FAR AS THE LEVEL, THE INCOME LEVEL FOR THESE TO BE QUALIFIED FOR THIS GRANT. WE RECEIVE $6.2 MILLION IN CDBG COVID GRANT FOR ACQUISITION, DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR A JOB TRAINING CENTER CENTER AT 710 SOUTHEAST MLK BOULEVARD IN EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY LAST YEAR FOR $1.6 MILLION. WE WERE WORKING TOWARDS A DESIGN LAST YEAR FOR THE NEW FACILITY, HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS, WENT THROUGH PERMITTING PROCESS, AND WE WENT OUT FOR BID IN DECEMBER OF 2024, WE RECEIVED A BID FOR $6.4 MILLION. SO WE DO HAVE INSUFFICIENT FUNDS TO AWARD THE CONTRACT. SO WE I REACHED OUT TO FLORIDA COMMERCE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF $4 MILLION AND WAITING FOR STATE TO REVIEW OUR PROPOSAL AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT A REALITY. I'M PRETTY HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING. CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT THIS ONE, TOO? SURE. I THINK MAYBE THE LAST TIME WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THERE WERE SOME FOLKS IN THE ROOM CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THERE HAD BEEN TALK ABOUT DISCUSSING FURTHER, LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BUSINESS INCUBATOR AND WAYS THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD USE THE SPACE OUTSIDE OF JUST PROJECT LIFT. HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROGRESS WITH THAT? WELL, I'M WAITING FOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE AWARD THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. BUT WE ARE WE ARE TALKING TO NAACP TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SPACE IN THIS FACILITY. WE STILL HAVE TO DO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT LIFT. SO I THINK THE DISCUSSION WILL BE PART OF THAT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ADD OFFICE SPACE FOR DIFFERENT USES. OKAY. THANKS. WE CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH MAIN STREET TO PROMOTE OUR DOWNTOWN. THEY RECENTLY APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND RECEIVED A GRANT OF $25,000 TO DO THE NOMINATION APPLICATION TO DESIGNATE OUR DOWNTOWN AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, EVEN THOUGH WE CALL IT HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY FORMAL DESIGNATION OR EVEN A LOCAL REGISTRY DESIGNATION. SO THEIR MAIN STREET IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY HIRED A CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THE APPLICATION, AND THEY PLAN TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE THIS SUMMER. THE CONSULTANT IS PLANNING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE UPCOMING CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON MONDAY. ON

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ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. I JUST GOT A COUPLE STATEMENTS AND MAYBE A QUESTION OR TWO. BUT FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW OVER THIS LAST YEAR THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT WE'RE DOING, AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. SOME OF THEM WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER. AND, YOU KNOW, WE GET DRUG INTO INTO THINGS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CRA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKING A BIGGER IMPACT THAN 500 BUCKS. YOU KNOW, I JUST THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE GENERALLY MONEY THAT WE'RE I THINK IT'S JUST MONEY THAT WE'RE THROWING INTO A PROJECT FOR WHAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO DO. I MEAN, PIN UP FOR $500, YOU CAN HARDLY DO ANYTHING FOR 500 BUCKS, YOU KNOW, AND SO I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT THIS OVER THIS NEXT YEAR AT, YOU KNOW, WAYS THAT WE COULD MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT AND. YOU KNOW, KEEPING IN MIND, I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE CRA IS TO IS TO INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES WITHIN THE CRA SO THAT WE GET MORE MONEY IN THE CRA, AND IT DOESN'T GO OUTSIDE THE CRA PRIMARILY TO MARTIN COUNTY. SO, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THESE PROJECTS, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE LITTLE ONES ARE ARE A PROBLEM AND EVEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE PEANUT PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THEN LET'S DO A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S MAKE AN IMPACT, LET'S DO A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IT FOR US TO LOOK AT, I THINK IS BASED ON ONE OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETINGS. YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT THAT THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO FUND THE BTB APP ACTIVITY THIS YEAR HAS ELECTED NOT TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S AND THAT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T DO SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY WITHIN THIS, WITHIN THE CITY OR WITHIN THE CRA. IN OTHER WORDS, REPLACE THAT 25,000 THAT WAS GOING OUT WITH 25,000. THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CRA THAT WE COULD USE IT TO MAKE A MORE AGGRESSIVE PITCH FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO EXPAND SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW, I I'VE SAID ALL ALONG, WE HAVE HOUSING, WE HAVE A HOUSING PROBLEM IN IN STUART. BUT BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISN'T AFFORDABLE UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD IT. I MEAN IT'S ALL ABOUT INCOME REALLY. AND SO ON. UNTIL WE CAN FIND WAYS TO GENERATE NEW BIGGER JOBS AND NEW JOBS AND THOSE ARE OUT THERE. THE AIRPORT WE HAVE AN AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY AND IT'S GENERATING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF JOBS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING MORE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP GENERATE THAT AND GET SOME BENEFIT FOR THE CRA. SO I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE COMMISSION IS LOOKING AT ALL THE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT WE'RE FUNDING. SO I THINK THAT'LL BE PROBABLY BE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT CRA IS FUNDING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE FUND FOR MLK EVENT. WE FUND FOR BLACK HERITAGE. SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING AND THEY'RE THEY'RE

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SIZE REFERENCE. BUT BUT ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO I THINK THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THAT'S SOME THINGS. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE GOT A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS. WHEN? WHEN IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN UP FOR RENEWAL. SO WE'RE GOING TO START DISCUSSING THAT AS THE NEXT ITEM. AND I'LL START PREPARING MY BUDGET IN MAY. AND IT COMES TO THE CRB AROUND SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY END OF SEPTEMBER. SO IT'LL COME TO CRB AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE CRB IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO CRA FOR ADOPTION. OKAY. SO IT'S GOOD TO START DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. SO THEN WHEN I PREPARE MY BUDGET IN MAY, I HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD AS TO WHAT TO INCLUDE IN MY BUDGET FOR CIP. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS, ISN'T IT? EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO UPDATE OUR I DO IT EVERY YEAR. IT COMES TO THE BOARD. EVERY YEAR, THE CRA PLAN. THE CRA PLAN. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CIP? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE I KNOW THAT, YEAH, I KNOW THAT THAT COMES TO THE CITY OF I'M TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR. WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE CRA AND, AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND, AND I'M NOT SURE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. IT JUST HAS TO BE UPDATED AS WE IDENTIFY NEW PROJECTS, AND WE NEED TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE CRA PLAN. NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE I THINK THE CONFUSION IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CIP AND PROJECTS THERE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRA PLAN. I'M TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, THERE'S A THERE'S A BASE PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE. THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO BE IT. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS IS WHAT DEVELOPMENT WE WANT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. WHAT I'M SAYING IT COULD BE UPDATED AS WE GO. LIKE IF WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT LIKE AS WE DISCUSSED THE CIP, WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT'S NOT IN THE CRA PLAN. THEN I WOULD BRING I WOULD AMEND THE CRA PLAN TO INCLUDE THOSE PROJECTS, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CRA PLAN. AS LONG AS WE WORK WITHIN THE CRA PLAN, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AMENDED. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, MY THOUGHT I'D, I'D LIKE TO GET THE OTHER MEMBERS THOUGHTS ON IT IS THAT I THINK IT'S TIME TO KIND OF MAYBE TAKE THAT PLAN AND GO BACK TO THE BASE ROOTS OF IT AND SEE, HAVE WE CHANGED? WHAT WE WANT TO DO DOES IS THE CITY WANT TO DO SOMETHING? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY. DO THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAN THE GROUP DID 30 YEARS AGO? WE JUST ADOPTED IT IN 2024. WE JUST ADOPTED THE CRA PLAN. IT CAME TO THE CRB AND CRA IN 2024. DO YOU MEAN MORE OF LIKE A MASTER PLAN? LIKE A COMMUNITY BASED MASTER LIKE WE DID? YEAH, LIKE WE DID WITH FEEDBACK ON LIKE WHAT? WHAT THEIR VALUES ARE WHAT THEY WANT. YEAH, EXACTLY. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE WORKSHOPS AND. OH, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DOES IS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE YEAR BASED. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT'S RELATED TO THE CODE AND COMP PLAN. YEAH. AND I GUESS MAYBE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COMP PLAN, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT HAS EVERY SEVEN YEARS THEY HAVE TO CHANGE. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY JODY'S GOING TO WORK ON THAT THIS YEAR. OKAY. WELL, I KNOW I GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, HOWEVER LONG IT WAS IN THE IN THE 70S OR 80 IS IN THE 80S, BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS HERE THEN, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER AND SAID, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO BE. YEAH, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF HOUSING WE WANT. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES WE WANT. LET'S SEE, FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE. AND THEY GOT

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AND YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THE PEOPLE OF EAST STUART REALLY WANT? WHAT DO THE PEOPLE OF STUART REALLY WANT? WHAT WHAT DO THE PEOPLE IN THE CRA, WHAT DO PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CRA THAT WE CAN CREATE THAT PATHWAY AGAIN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL PATHWAY HAS CHANGED AND I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S CHANGED. AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I'VE BEEN REQUESTING THIS OF THE COMMISSION FOR YEARS NOW AND SAYING IT UP HERE AS WELL. I DO THINK WE NEED A MASTER PLAN UPDATE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE CRA OR IF IT'S CITY WIDE, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CONSULTANT LED AND HAVE HEAVY, HEAVY COMMUNITY INPUT. STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT I HAVEN'T SEEN WITHIN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT THAT I DO AS A PROFESSIONAL AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO THAT PEOPLE REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD AND THAT THEIR VALUES ARE BEING EXPRESSED WITH HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY AND, AND OUR ZONING AND, AND EVERYTHING. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TIME FOR AN UPDATE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK SO, YEAH, I'M REALLY GETTING UP TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED ON HOW THE DECISION IS MADE AND THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS GOING, AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY START THE PLAN ALL OVER. IF THEY START THE PLAN ALL OVER AGAIN, BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. I THINK THEY DO THAT AS PART OF THE YEAR BASED AMENDMENT PROCESS, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE WHEN WE DID THAT SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE WENT ON THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAD WORKSHOPS, MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS. SO THAT KIND OF BECOMES LIKE THE GUIDE OF HOW THE CITY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND YOU HAVE THAT IN THE COMP PLAN. AND SO YOUR BASE WILL KIND OF GIVE DIRECTION AS TO WHAT AMENDMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE IN THE COMP PLAN, TO PROVIDE DIRECTION, HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND THAT INCLUDES THE CRA ALSO. YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD. BUT I, I THINK THAT AN INTERNAL STAFF DEPARTMENT SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY LEAD THAT CHARGE. NO, NO THEY'LL HIRE CONSULTANT. THEY HIRED A CONSULTANT LAST TIME TOO. RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT ENGAGEMENT BY THE CRA AND BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO SUPPORT THE PLAN. I MEAN, TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK THAT ENGAGEMENT NEEDS TO INCLUDE EDUCATION. IT NEEDS TO BE VERY VISUAL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, SURE, WE WENT THROUGH THAT ZIP LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, AND THAT'S NOT EASY FOR A PLANNER TO UNDERSTAND, LET ALONE, YOU KNOW, A REGULAR OLD CITIZEN. SO. YEAH, I'M WITH YOU, MARK. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO ARE YOU GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS NEXT FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PRESENTATION? CAN WE TAKE A BREAK SO I CAN GO TO THE RESTROOM? I APPRECIATE IT. BEFORE WE GET INTO YOUR PRESENTATION, YOUR SECOND PRESENTATION HERE. PINNELL. MISS BRINKLEY WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF FINISH A LITTLE BIT ON HER EXPLANATION WHAT SHE WAS GOING. AND SO, YEAH, GLADLY LIKE TO HAVE HAVE THAT. I'D LIKE TO. TELL HALF STORY. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T FINISH WITH THE WATER BILLS BECAUSE THERE WAS A SILVER LINING AT THE END. AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW I CAME OVER HERE AND COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY. I HAD HELP WITH THE $250, YOU KNOW, $50,000. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ALL THAT OUT. I WANT TO TELL THE WHOLE THING. AND JUST LIKE SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I DID GET SOME HELP AND I THANK GOD FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HELPED ME. OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO KNOW I MEAN, WE KNOW THE CITY HAS GOOD PEOPLE AND THEY TRY TO HELP WHERE THEY CAN. SO WE'RE WE'RE

[3. DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION OF THE CRA FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN]

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THE GUY DAVIS COMMUNITY PARK. WE HAVE $7 MILLION BUDGETED DOWNTOWN UNDERGROUNDING, 6.9 MILLION. SEMINOLE STREETSCAPE 2.8 MILLION. RIVERSIDE PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT THE TOTAL PROJECTS IS $2.7 MILLION, BUT I JUST HAVE TO BUDGET $193,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 FOR ADDITIONAL EXPENSES AND THE CEI SERVICES. WILLIE GARY PROPERTY, WHICH IS DEMO NEW CONSTRUCTION. I HAVE $4.3 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THAT SOUTHEAST DIXIE HIGHWAY. THAT'S GRANT PROJECT. WE'RE GETTING ABOUT $450,000 IN GRANT FOR THAT, BUT THAT PROJECT WON'T BE IMPLEMENTED IN UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2027, AND MLK STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT WON'T BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL 2028. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2026, WE HAVE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR THE BOARD TO START DISCUSSING WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS, BASED ON THE STUDIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE? YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE SHOULD BE DOING ADDITIONAL STUDIES AND MASTER PLANS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE ALREADY SO MANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO IMPLEMENT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL TIF REVENUE IN 2026. SO WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH. GO AHEAD, TURN YOUR SWITCH ON. AND

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IN OTHER WORDS, THE YOU ALL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED QUITE A BIT IN THESE ANALYZING THESE BECAUSE THESE WERE REQUESTED SOME TIME AGO BY HOPEFULLY SOME SMART PEOPLE, SO WELL INFORMED PEOPLE. SORRY. SO THE I GUESS WHAT I THINK ABOUT IS MAYBE THE, THE ROLE OF, OF OUR BOARD AT THIS POINT IS TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZING THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALSO MARRYING OR RECONCILING IT WITH WHAT THE BUDGET IS YEAR BY YEAR. AND WHICH OF THESE ARE HEAVY HITTERS VERSUS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER ON THE BUDGET, BECAUSE MAYBE THAT WOULD INFLUENCE THE PRIORITY. AND I SO I THINK THE, THE, THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE THE SLIDE, BUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THE BUDGET. THAT'S ALSO SUPER HELPFUL BECAUSE IF WE CAN FORECAST, OKAY, IT'S 6 MILLION FREE NEXT YEAR. AND OH LOOK, THERE'S 10 MILLION FREE AFTER THAT. AND SO ON. NOW WE CAN START COOKING WITH GAS AS THEY SAY. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE SORT OF STRATEGIC LONG TERM PLAN. AND YOU CAN JUST START DROPPING THESE IN AS THEY GO. MAYBE ONE PROJECTS A YEAR OR MAYBE ONE PROJECT IS FOUR YEARS.

YOU HAVE TO FUND IT. OKAY. SO KIND OF BUT I, I ASSUME YOU'RE QUITE EAGER TO DO THAT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL YOU HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHICH OF THESE ARE ARE THE PRIORITY, I SUSPECT BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BRIGHT LINE TRAIN STATION THAT WAS IN MY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. SO BUT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE NEW BOARD, THE DISCUSSIONS HAS CHANGED. SO I HAD TO REMOVE THAT. AND NOW WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY FOR THE CITY. SO IF I, IF I COULD CONTINUE. YEAH. IS THAT OKAY. OKAY. BEFORE I WOULD I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THESE WITH THE BOARD. AND THOSE WHO MAY BE PRESENT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. BUT BEFORE I DO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN ANSWER THEM, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IS THERE A PARKING ISSUE IN DOWNTOWN STUART. YEAH, SO WE'VE DONE A PARKING STUDY AND IT DID NOT IDENTIFY. IT DOES NOT IDENTIFY. WE HAVE PARKING ISSUES. WE HAVE PARKING MANAGEMENT ISSUE. SO WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PARKING STUDY, LIKE EXTENDING THE HOURS BEFORE WE USED TO HAVE LIMITED HOURS TILL 3:00, THREE HOUR PARKING UNTIL 3:00. WE CHANGE THAT TO 8:00. WE EXTENDED THE LIMITED PARKING ALONG FLAGLER AVENUE. SO WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED. THE NEXT BIG ITEM FOR US TO FOR US TO IMPLEMENT IS TO PAY PARKING. AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY GETS HELD UP BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS PAID PARKING IN DOWNTOWN. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO PARKING GARAGE, WE HAVE TO HAVE PAID PARKING IN DOWNTOWN. OTHERWISE NOBODY'S GOING TO GO TO PARKING GARAGE. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME HERE TO PARK. SO HOW DO WE CHANGE BEHAVIOR? WE HAVE TO MAKE WE HAVE TO CONVERT THESE PREFERRED PARKING TO PAID PARKING. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT SUPPORT FROM DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AT THIS TIME. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. AND THANKS FOR THAT. AND I, I GUESS I WOULD SAY YOU EITHER DO OR YOU DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT

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YOU DON'T WANT TO WALK, RIGHT? AND IT'S LIKE I SAY TO THEM, WHEN YOU LIVE IN CONNECTICUT AND YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO NEW YORK, THE FIRST THING YOU DON'T THINK IS, CAN I FIND A PARKING PLACE? YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE THERE. IT JUST MIGHT NOT BE AFFORDABLE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE THERE. RIGHT. AND YOU WALK OR TRAM. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PLACE THAT'S WITHIN A, A REASONABLE DISTANCE TO WALK. AND WE DON'T HAVE COVERED WALKWAYS EVERYWHERE. SO IF IT'S SUMMER AND YOU GET CAUGHT IN THE RAIN, YOU GET DRENCHED, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCEPT OF THE PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THE STUDIES, THEY SAY, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT IT'S THE PERCEPTION THAT WE DO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES DOWNTOWN AND THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK, YOU KNOW? OKAY, SO THAT'S ALL I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT MAYBE A PERCEPTION PROBLEM, BUT ADDRESSING THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN ADDRESSING IT IF YOU ACTUALLY HAD THE PARKING PROBLEM. SO I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, DON'T BUILD A GARAGE TO ADDRESS A PERCEPTION IF YOU CAN FIX THE PERCEPTION OTHER WAYS. RIGHT. SO I HEAR YOU. I HEAR YOU CLEARLY. SO AND I HAVE MY OWN OPINION ABOUT THAT, BY THE WAY. BUT I'LL KEEP THAT. SO THE. MY NEXT OH I'M FROM MY VIEW IN, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS IN THE PLANS AND THE DECKS HERE AND ALL THE STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT WAS DONE FOR THE AREA, IT WAS SORT OF ASSUMING THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PARKING GARAGE OR A PARKING SPACE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRAIN STATION, WHETHER THAT COMES OR NOT, I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNCERTAIN, BUT WE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. SO LET THAT SOLVE THE PARKING PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S PERCEPTION OR NOT. LET THAT SOLVE IT. SO I'M MOVING ON FROM THAT TOPIC. SO THE HOW ABOUT CITY HALL. SO WHERE WE ARE SITTING RIGHT HERE AND MAYBE THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A BIT OF A MYSTERY, BUT IS THERE LIKE A PLAN TO LIKE TO MOVE, LEAVE, SELL, BUILD, TEAR DOWN OR IT STAYS? THAT IS AS IT IS UNTIL ANYBODY KNOWS FURTHER. SO WE ACQUIRE THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING AND HALF OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY TRANSFERRED THERE ON PURPOSE, APPARENTLY BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO RELOCATE TO WELLS FARGO BUILDING. EXCELLENT. SO THERE IS A GOAL TO LEAVE THIS BUILDING AND GO TO WELLS FARGO. BUT WELLS FARGO, WE OWN THAT WELLS FARGO. YEAH, IT WAS A GREAT DECISION. BUT I THINK THE ISSUE IS THERE.

WELLS FARGO IS LEASING ONE OF THE FLOORS AND THERE ARE OTHER TENANTS THERE. THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, AND THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT'S HOLDING UP FROM US MOVING THERE. AND WHY I THINK THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH. AND WHY ARE WE LEAVING THIS BUILDING? BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIME PROPERTY AND IT COULD BE REDEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING. SO SOMEBODY MADE A DECISION THAT IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE THIS AS A REVENUE PRODUCING SPACE RATHER THAN A THAN CITY HALL, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I'M NOT ENTIRELY PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THIS BUILDING REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO THE POINT THAT IT ALMOST HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN. RIGHT. AND SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT KIND OF MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT FOR CITY STAFF THAT COULD BE USED EVEN JUST FOR A PARK, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'D SAVE US THE MONEY OF HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD SOMETHING ELSE. SO THERE'S PERCEIVED TO BE A BETTER USE FOR THIS SPACE, AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL AND THE COST OF REPAIRING IT. ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS, IS THAT THE SAME FOR THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR? WHEN YOU SAY, FOR THE RECORD, LEE BAGGETT CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT BUILDING NEXT DOOR ARE YOU REFERRING BECAUSE THERE'S A RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR THAT THE CITY OWNS.

BUT WE HAVE A LONG TERM LEASE WITH THE RESTAURANT, RIGHT. SO THAT'S SPENT LIKE A MILLION BUCKS. THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ALREADY A PLAN. OH YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT AND REDEVELOP THAT TOO. BUT THERE'S AN OCCUPANT PROBABLY HAS A LONG TERM LEASE. SO YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY EXITING THAT BUILDING OR THAT'S GOING TO STAY LIKE IT IS FOR A WHILE. CORRECT. SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE PART OF ANY LONG TERM PLANNING DECISION HERE. CORRECT. IT'S JUST THE CURRENT BUILDING AND I'M NOT SURE POTENTIALLY THE ANNEX AS WELL. IT'S A LITTLE SMALL BUILDING. WE PAY THE BILL. YEAH. PAY BILL.

PAY UTILITY BILLS CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN. GOT IT. WE HAVE LONG TERM TENANTS IN THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING. AND SO UNLESS THEY BREAK THE LEASE EARLY AND THEY WANTED TO MOVE OUT, BUT WE GOT

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AND THEN THERE'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE THAT TAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING. BUT THE BUT THE PLAN IS KIND OF AS SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE OVER THERE. I'M POINTING TO WELLS FARGO, IS THAT FOLKS WOULD LEAVE THIS FACILITY OR COMPLEX AND MOVE OVER THERE. IS THAT KIND OF I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, AND WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE THAT HAVE LOCATED AIR WAS HERE WHEN I GOT HERE AND THEY RELOCATED. I DON'T KNOW, FINANCE. FINANCE IS OVER THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY RELOCATED BEFORE I GOT HERE OR NOT. AND SO WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS ALREADY OVER THERE. I KNOW PROCUREMENT WAS THERE, I DO, BUT WE AND THEY'RE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. BUT THE FIRST FLOOR IS COMPLETELY LEASED BY WELLS FARGO. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ALSO A DOCTOR'S A VERY BUSY DOCTOR'S OFFICE ON THE EASTERN PORTION.

AND I THINK THE EASTERN PORTION WOULD BE PROBABLY THE GOAL TO BE WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DYAS WOULD BE THE CHAMBERS. GOT IT. AND I GUESS THE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU.

SO THE FOLKS ARE LEAVING HERE, BUT THERE'S NO KNOWN END DATE WHEN EVERYBODY WILL BE EXIT. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, 10 OR 20. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S UNCERTAIN. POTENTIALLY A TENANT CAN MOVE OUT EARLIER. IF THEY NEEDED MORE SPACE AND THEY NEEDED TO MOVE. RIGHT. BUT AND THAT COULD MAYBE EXPEDITE THINGS. BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE IN LONG TERM LEASES. SO AND I WASN'T PREPARED FOR IT. SO I DON'T KNOW THE WHAT WHAT THE TERMS ARE LEFT. YEAH. YEAH. NO NO SWEAT. SO I GUESS WHAT THE REASON I'M ASKING ALL THAT IS, IT'S VERY RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ON THE SCREEN FOR THIS BOARD. SO I MEAN, YOU REALLY YOU CAN'T PLAN ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SPACE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. NOW YOU CAN SAY, HEY, MAYBE WITH A BIT OF IMAGINATION WE CAN HOPE FOR IT, BUT THAT'S NOT USUALLY A GOOD STRATEGY. I THINK YOU COULD DO A VISIONING OR PLANNING EFFORT, NOT A DESIGN EFFORT, BUT JUST GET THAT INITIAL FEEDBACK OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT TO BE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE CITY VIEWS IT AS REVENUE. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING GREEN SPACE. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO GO THERE. OKAY.

AND THERE'S THE PROBLEM. THE CITY WOULD NEVER MOVE BECAUSE THE DECISION TO MOVE NOBODY WOULD EVER MAKE. IT WAS ALWAYS PREDICATED UPON WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THIS. SURE MAKES IT. YEAH. AND YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO. IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT WE DO WITH THIS, WHERE WE PUT THE STAFF. WE KNOW IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY STAFF TO BE HERE. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE WATER. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE SPACE. THIS BUILDING NEEDS SIGNIFICANT REPAIRS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO REPAIR IT. SO THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE BIG ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHY I LAUGHED WHEN YOU BROUGHT YOU BROUGHT UP TWO OF THE DAGGER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN EXISTING FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS. I WAS WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO CLIMB UNDER THE TABLE AND NOT ANSWER THIS LAST THE CITY HALL QUESTION. BUT BUT HERE'S THE THING. THERE IS ALSO A PROJECT THAT SHE DID THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS HOW THIS AREA COULD BE REDEVELOPED, IGNORING WHAT WAS DONE WITH THIS BUILDING. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD TURN IT INTO A YEAH, IT'S IN THE DECK. I SAW IT, BUT THAT'S I MEAN, PART OF IT IS NON-REVENUE GENERATING. SO I WOULD SAY, OH, IF THE GOAL WAS TO GENERATE REVENUE, WELL GUESS WHAT. GREEN SPACES AND GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE. SO IT WON'T IT WON'T ADDRESS THAT GOAL. BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT BONNIE SAID, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A 2 OR 3 OPTION VISION LIKE THIS IS WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE SPACE. OKAY. SO BE IT. THAT'S IT'S WORTH, YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THE ON THE SLIDE. NOW IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING. YEAH THAT'S COOL. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD NEED LOTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO WORK ALL THAT OUT. OKAY. SO I HAVE JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU STILL HAVE PATIENCE FOR NOW. SURE. SO YEAH WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT LIST.

THIS IS FANTASTIC. SO THE FROM MY VIEW THE TREE PLANTING PROGRAM. FANTASTIC. AND MARK SAID SOMETHING RATHER SMART IS, YOU KNOW FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WHERE IT'S RELATIVELY LOW FUNDS PER ITEM. IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT LIKE, WELL LET'S JUST DO THE WHOLE BLOCK OR LET'S JUST DO THE WHOLE STREET AT A TIME. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT WITH, WITH, I THINK YOU WERE MENTIONING PAINT UP WAS ONE PROGRAM, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT THE TREE PLANTING AND OTHER THINGS. IF WE CAN DO THAT IN LARGER CHUNKS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE PER PER UNIT. THAT'S JUST A VIEW FROM FROM ME. BUT IN TERMS OF THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE LIST HERE, UNDERGROUNDING IS, I FEEL SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. IT HELPS WITH MAKING IT MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED. AND AS ALONG WITH THAT IS THE SIDEWALK DESIGN ORGANIZATION. AND AGAIN SHADE TREE. SO THOSE KIND OF THOSE THREE GO TOGETHER IN MY VIEW. SO IF WE COMMIT TO SOME KIND OF A STRATEGY WITH, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE SPACE THE AREAS MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, WHICH

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EXACTLY. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO COMPLETE STREET PROJECT IF YOU HAVE OVERHEAD UTILITIES, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE IN THE SIDEWALK. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH? LET'S SAY, I KNOW BLOCKS ARE DIFFERENT SIZES, BUT A BLOCK OF UNDERGROUNDING THE WIRES. WHAT DOES THAT COST? IS IT $10 10,000, 10,100,000? WELL, I MEAN, WE JUST WENT OUT FOR BID FOR DOWNTOWN UNDERGROUNDING AND STREETSCAPE. WHAT WAS IT? SO THAT PROJECT INCLUDES I DON'T HAVE BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ANYTHING, BUT IT INCLUDES SEMINOLE STREET. YEAH, OSCEOLA STREET. YEAH, IT INCLUDES COLORADO FROM FLAGLER TO SEMINOLE, AND IT INCLUDES SAINT LUCIE FROM FLAGLER SEMINOLE. SO THAT'S ABOUT $6.9 MILLION. GREAT. SO THAT WOULD BE A MILLION A BLOCK. YIKES. BUT $7 MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S PRICEY. BUT IF, IF, IF DONE I THINK WELL, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH IT NOW. BUT BUT IF DONE WITH THE SIDEWALK PLANS AND MAKING THEM THE RIGHT WIDTH AND ACCESSIBLE AND TREE PLANTINGS, THEN IT'S QUITE NICE.

OKAY, I'LL STOP TALKING. YEAH. NO THAT'S GOOD. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD THINGS. THAT'S GREAT. AND ANYBODY ELSE HAVE. YEAH, I WANTED TO I NOTICED THAT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING BUDGETED FOR THE PRIVATE PUBLIC FINDING THAT SITE FOR A LOW INCOME HOUSING OR DEVELOPMENTS. RIGHT.

BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROPOSED PROJECTS. THIS IS ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE BOARD COULD RECOMMEND. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY SITE. IT COULD BE I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE GARAGE SITE ON MLK AS POTENTIAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHEN THE GARAGE WILL MOVE TO THE OTHER LOCATION THAT THEY'RE BUILDING. SO THAT'S ANOTHER 4 OR 5 YEARS OUT. SO THESE ARE CITY OWNED PROJECTS PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. IT COULD BE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER THAT WANTS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ANY REQUESTS LIKE THAT. IT'S USUALLY PRIVATE DEVELOPERS THAT WILL ASK THAT THE CITY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE THEIR OUR CONTRIBUTION, THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT ALSO ON US ONE BY NORTH RIVER DOOR. THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY ALSO. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING AFFORDABLE PROJECT THERE ALSO, BUT NOTHING MOVED FORWARD. THE COUPLE THINGS I'LL JUST MENTION JUST IN GENERAL FOR THE BOARD'S BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, TO QUALIFY AN AREA TO BE A CRA, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THERE IS BLIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU SHOW AS BLIGHT. BUT WHAT PEOPLE FORGET IS THAT THAT ALSO INCLUDES ECONOMIC BLIGHT. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMIC BLIGHT SIDE OF THIS THING. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THAT'S ONE THING WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO LOOK FOR SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO CREATE JOBS. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON ON HOUSING AND ZONING AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT IF WE CAN CREATE JOBS THAT PAY PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, LIVE HERE, THEN SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROBLEMS GO AWAY. BUT SO I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IN, IN KIND OF A, BECAUSE NOW IT MAY BE MORE OF A FACTOR IS QUIET ZONES. WITH THE BRIGHT LINE TRANSACTION ORIGINALLY. WE WERE GOING TO GET QUIET ZONES. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF. AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW QUIET ZONES WORK BECAUSE I DIDN'T IT IT'S BASICALLY THERE'S THESE IMPROVEMENTS YOU PUT IN AND YOU REACH CERTAIN LEVELS AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO REDUCE THE USE OF THE HORN BASICALLY IS WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO. AND THERE'S A LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN GET COMPLETE QUIET. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORN AT ALL BECAUSE THE CROSSINGS ARE ALL CLOSED AND THEY DON'T BLOW THE HORN AT ALL.

THEN THERE'S A ONE LEVEL BELOW THAT WHERE THEY USE JUST IT'S JUST A DIRECTIONAL HORN THAT BLOWS DOWN THE STREET. RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T BLOW AS THEY'RE DRIVING, AS THEY'RE BRINGING THE

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THE SIX THE $7 MILLION FOR GUY DAVIS PARK. SO YEAH, I THINK THERE MIGHT STILL BE SOME CONFUSION. SO I THINK THIS AND THE NEXT SLIDE ARE A GOOD DEMONSTRATION. SO THESE THIS SLIDE IS A LIST OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS WITHOUT ANY FUNDING TODAY. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THEM THEN. THEN MAYBE THEY GET FUNDING IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO SLIDES OF THIS. BUT THIS ONE SHOWS YOU HALF OF IT. SO THESE ARE ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE SET.

THEY'RE DONE THEIR BUDGET. THEY'RE BUDGETED I SHOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE DONE BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE BUDGETED AND IT'S THEY'RE RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE'S NO DECISION BY US. IT'S ROCK AND ROLLING. AND YEAH THAT WAS THE PAGE TWO. SO THEN SO THESE ARE WHAT PINNELL IS ASKING US FOR IS SIDE FROM THE EXISTING PROJECTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY A PROJECT DOES HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS OF SPEND INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT SHE'S GOT THAT ALL BUDGETED. SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND SHE'S LOOKING FOR WHAT SHOULD THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING GO TO. WHAT NEW THINGS.

SO THESE ARE TECHNICALLY NEW. ALTHOUGH THE I GOT CONFUSED BY THE 10TH STREET COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING GUY DAVIS PARK. OKAY. GOT IT. AND I THINK SO.

NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY FUNDING ON THE SLIDE. BUT BUT BUT IMPORTANTLY, THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT HISTORY OF ANALYSIS, COMMUNITY INPUT, LEADERSHIP INPUT. I GUESS, CONSULTANTS DESIGN AND SO ON IF THEY WERE TO BE PURSUED. SO THERE IS SOME BACKGROUND ON THESE, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE WE THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T LIKE ANY OF THOSE. AND YOU OBVIOUSLY THIS BOARD CAN COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL ONES OR NEW ONES OR ADD OR EDIT. AND THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT A LITTLE BIT IS THAT WITH, WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS I MADE IN THE VERY BEGINNING, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THESE REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS GOING AND WHAT THEY THINK. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED THIS IS THERE ARE SOME THINGS HERE THAT ARE IN LINE HISTORICALLY WITH WHAT IS THE COMP PLAN AND IS THE CRA PLAN. AND NOW SOME OF THAT HAS CHANGED. SO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO DO A DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE? I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD GO. I DON'T THINK EVEN IF WE HAD THE MONEY THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAPPEN. AND IT DEFINITELY WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT LIKE THE CITY CITY HALL REDEVELOPMENT AGAIN. RIGHT.

WHICH IS WHY I WAS KIND OF GETTING I PARKED THOSE TWO RIGHT. SO PARKED THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE CITY HALL, CITY HALL REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S SO UNCLEAR. IT'S NOT WORTH US SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF THERE WERE SOME, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYONE FROM DOING A VISION PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN THAT MIGHT INCLUDE THAT STUFF. BUT THAT'S WHY TO ME THERE THERE ARE SOME ON THIS LIST THAT I SEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE NO BRAINERS, BUT THERE TO ME, THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

KIND OF LIKE A IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE WITH THIS KIND OF LONG TERM INVESTMENT, WHICH IS SOME OF THE UNDERGROUNDING AND THE SIDEWALK AND TREES AND THINGS THAT THE

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INTERESTING. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A VISITOR? YEAH. AGAIN, LEE BAGGETT, CITY ATTORNEY. I COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME INPUT ON IT. YOU HAVE TO DO CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE TO AN INTERSECTION, WHICH THEY'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, TO COMPLETELY SEAL OFF BOTH DIRECTIONS, BOTH SIDES, ALL SIDES OF THE CROSSING. AND YOU CAN IMAGINE CONFUSION CORNER TRYING TO SEAL OFF THAT INTERSECTION WITH, YOU KNOW, GATES TO BLOCK IT OFF. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. SO THEY'RE THE REASON WHY THEY'RE UP THERE IS WE HAVE TO DO SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE CORNERS IN ORDER TO EVEN APPLY FOR A QUIET ZONE BECAUSE OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S BUT THIS MONEY COULD BE USED FOR THAT. RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING WHEN WE SAY QUIET ZONES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. RIGHT.

RIGHT. AND YOU WERE WORRIED. WELL IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. BUT THEY WON'T GIVE YOU A QUIET ZONE UNLESS IT'S SAFE. YEAH. WITH IMPROVEMENTS. YEAH. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. YEAH. NO. SO I GOT YOU I JUST AND I WILL SAY WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HORN. DO YOU. YES. OH I ENJOY IT. BUT ANYWAY, SO MAYBE I'M IN THE MINORITY ON THAT ONE NEXT TO THE TRAIN. THAT'S TRUE, I DON'T.

THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE APPLYING NOW. THE COUNTY HAD TAKEN THE POSITION. WE'RE GOING TO WAIT A YEAR AND THEN APPLY FOR QUIET ZONES. AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE INCLUDED IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR QUIET ZONES. OKAY. YEAH. HAVING THE MAINTENANCE DONE ON THOSE WOULD BE TREMENDOUS IF WE COULD HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, DO THE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE IT DOES COST A LOT OF MONEY OVER TIME. BUT WE WOULD IF WE WANT ON THOSE DOWNTOWN THAT LIKE THE CONFUSION CORNER SAILFISH CIRCLE, WE HAVE TO DO SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT FULL INTERSECTION REDESIGN RIGHT. YEAH. BUT AGAIN YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE WORTH IT IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING KILLED AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW. SO IT MIGHT BE A PROJECT FOR US TO LOOK AT. BUT NOW, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO YOU FOR US TO MAYBE WE CAN PUT THESE IN PRIORITY LIST? MAYBE. YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE JUST MAYBE VISIONING SESSION BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING WITH CITY HALL REDEVELOPMENT UNTIL CITY HALL RELOCATES. EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDENT ON OTHER ITEMS, RIGHT. OTHER MOVEMENTS.

SO OSCEOLA STREET EXTENSION, WE CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL CITY HALL SITE GETS REDEVELOPED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO EXTEND THE OSCEOLA STREET ALL THE WAY TO FLAGLER PLACE. DOWNTOWN PARKING. I THINK THAT COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH ANOTHER PROJECT IF BRIGHTLINE COMES OR WHATEVER. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD DO RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIKE STANDALONE PROJECTS, LIKE CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CERTAIN PROJECTS WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING ELSE? YES. LIKE OCEAN, COMPLETE OCEAN BOULEVARD, COMPLETE STREET PROJECT? I THINK THAT WORKS BECAUSE WE COULD DO UNDERGROUNDING AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE WAITING ON. WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT THAT KIND OF ALSO IS DOVETAILS WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE AREN'T, THERE'S A HURRICANE AND PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO LOSE, YOU KNOW, THREE WEEKS OF WORK THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME BUNKER SYSTEM FOR COMPUTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IT REALLY CAN BE BENEFIT TO ADD TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ISN'T ON HERE, BUT IT'S A THOUGHT, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, IS CAN WE PUT SOME INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE IN, IN THE CRA CORRIDOR THAT MAKES IT BENEFICIAL FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND, AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW,

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I THINK ONE OF THOSE IS STREET TREES WITHIN THE ROADWAY. AND I WOULD FOCUS ON MAYBE THE STREETS THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SHORT TERM, SHORT, SHORT TERM GOAL TO, TO HAVE ANY BIG REDESIGNS. BUT WE'VE CERTAINLY GOT SOME STREETS THAT EITHER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SPACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WE'VE GOT ACTUAL LIKE GREEN SPACE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHERE THERE ARE NO TREES THAT WE COULD ADD, TREES WHERE THERE ARE AILING TREES OR TREES THAT ARE NOT INAPPROPRIATE. AND I KNOW WE LOVE THOSE YELLOW FLOWERING TREES, BUT THOSE ARE A SPECIMEN TREE, NOT A STREET TREE. I'M SORRY TO KEEP PICKING ON IT, BUT THEY JUST THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF BEING PRETTY FOR A FEW WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TARGET, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE YEAR WE FOCUS ON ADDING A COUPLE TREES TO THE STREET OR THAT STREET. INTERSECTION. SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK COULD BE INTERIM DESIGN. YOU KNOW, INTERSECTIONS ARE EXPENSIVE IF YOU'RE DOING A FULL REDESIGN, BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS TO STRIPING, TO SIGNAGE, TO. YOU KNOW, LITTLE THINGS TO MOVE THE CURB, TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT SAFER FOR CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY SAKE, YOU CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE WITH THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS VERSUS MILLIONS. THAT INCLUDES CONFUSION CORNER, THE SAILFISH ROUNDABOUT. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE DOWNTOWN, BUT WE'RE REALLY SPECIAL IN THAT OUR CRA DOES HAVE SCHOOLS WITHIN IT OR DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT, AND SO FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE KIDS SAFELY TO SCHOOL BY FOOT OR BY BIKE. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS TWO MORE THINGS. I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BAYOU PED BRIDGE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE WHEN I MOVED HERE TO STUART, IS THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF NORTH SOUTH ACCESS OFF OF MLK TO CONNECT TO EAST OCEAN OR TO THE NORTHERN PARTS OF DOWNTOWN, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION REGARDING INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THOSE COULD BE DONE ON, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET REQUESTS. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD BUDGET. AND THEN IF THERE'S SOME ISSUES IDENTIFIED, CERTAIN INTERSECTION, THEN WE CAN HAVE A YEAH, ENGINEER LOOK AT IT AND DESIGN SOMETHING. AND I LOVE THAT IDEA. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR IT TO BE TECHNICALLY GOOD, BUT ALSO BEAUTIFUL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I EMAILED THE COMMISSION ABOUT MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE HAVE I'M WORKING AT A CITY IN KENTUCKY RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN SUBMIT A REQUEST TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FOR TRAFFIC CALMING ON A STREET OR AT AN INTERSECTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CITY VERSUS CRA, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF PARKING AND WALKABILITY, OUR INTERSECTIONS DOWNTOWN IN THE CRA ARE HUGE BARRIERS. PEOPLE DON'T FEEL

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AND THEN I WE CAN KIND OF IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE COSTS FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS. AND THEN WE CAN PLUG IT INTO DIFFERENT YEARS. NOW THESE ARE GRANT FUNDED PROJECTS.

AND WOULD YOU HAVE TO. NO THEY'RE NOT. NO THEY THEY WOULD BE CRA FUNDED. BUT THEN I WOULD LOOK FOR GRANTS BASED ON WHAT PROJECT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT AS WE GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE.

USUALLY THEY THEY WANT TO SEE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE READY TO BE IMPLEMENTED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FUND PROJECTS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ON OUR MASTER PLAN. THEY WANT TO SEE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE. YOU'RE IN 30%, 60% DESIGN. YOU'VE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS AND INPUT BECAUSE THEY'RE READY TO SPEND THEIR MONEY FAST. THEY DON'T WANT PROJECTS THAT'S PENDING FIVE YEARS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS ASKING IF YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO WE'D HAVE TO ALSO CONSIDER THAT. RIGHT. AND WE'RE MAKING THE PRIORITY LIST. YEAH.

THANK YOU. IS SORRY. GO AHEAD. SO I, I PRIORITIZE IT ALL BY THE WAY ON MY OWN PIECE OF PAPER.

BUT WHAT I DON'T KNOW IF FOR YOU PANEL IF PROBABLY ON THE DISCUSSION YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SENSE OF MAYBE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND I MEAN, THE TOP THREE, THERE ARE KIND OF THOSE ONES THAT WE WOULD PARK OFF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF VISION IDEAS NOT TO SAY THEY THEY STOP, BUT JUST KIND OF VISION THINGS. AND I GUESS AGAIN, I MIGHT RANK THE REST OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES HERE. BUT I GUESS YOU GOT A SENSE OF OUR GENERAL CONSENSUS, OR DO YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND VERBALLY PRIORITIZE THOSE TODAY? YEAH. NO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO IT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK AGAIN. YOU'LL HAVE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. I'LL CREATE A SHORT TERM LIST AND LIKE LONG TERM LIST. AND THEN I'LL KIND OF COME UP WITH SOME NUMBERS, COST ESTIMATE BASED ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS I'VE DONE. AND THEN WE CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING IT'S GOING TO TAKE TWO YEARS OF PLANNING AND OUTREACH. SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN 2029 OR, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU CAN KIND OF GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU EXPECT TO DO THOSE PROJECTS AND PUT IT IN CIP. AND IF YOU HAVE IF YOU COME UP WITH ANYTHING IN A MEANWHILE BEFORE OUR BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AND I CAN GET IT ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE LIST. AND IF I MISSED ANYTHING TODAY, AND IF YOU SAID YOU ALREADY HAVE A LIST, I WOULD

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SO EVEN IF WE MISS SOMETHING, WE HAVE TIME TO PLAN. YEAH, NO, I THINK I THINK THAT'S GOOD I THINK THAT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT. COMMENT. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE I'M OLD A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN I LIVED IN PEORIA, ILLINOIS, THE MAYOR AT THE TIME DECIDED TO DO A COST, A COST REDUCTION PROGRAM. AND WHAT HE DID IS HE GOT A BUNCH OF LOCAL BUSINESS PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN OF CATERPILLAR AND OR THE RETIRED CHAIRMAN OF CATERPILLAR, AND BUSINESSES LENT. VOLUNTEERS LIKE CPA FIRMS AND ATTORNEYS LENT SOME OF THEIR STAFF TO COME DO THIS. AND THEY WENT AND THEY VISITED A BUNCH OF DEPARTMENTS AND GOT SUGGESTIONS ON IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE TO MAKE THE CITY MORE EFFECTIVE. AND THEY QUANTIFIED THOSE. I MEAN, IT HAD TO BE FOR IT TO GET ON THE LIST. IT HAD TO BE REAL DOLLARS. IT COULDN'T BE. WELL, WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO MAKE US SO MUCH BETTER. SO BEING HAPPY IS WORTH $1 MILLION. WELL, NO, THAT DIDN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, BUT TO MAKE THE STREET LIGHT SYSTEM MORE EFFECTIVE OR THE STOPLIGHT SYSTEM MORE EFFECTIVE. BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS A REALLY A GREAT PROGRAM. FIRST OF ALL, IT GOT A LOT OF BUY IN FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE SAVED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I MEAN, IT WAS A MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT CAME OUT AND IT ALL CAME FROM REALLY THE IDEAS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE. AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE DONE AT THIS LEVEL, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE I REALLY THINK A PROGRAM LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT WOULD REALLY GET PEOPLE ENGAGED AND SAVES THE CITY A BUNCH OF MONEY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT IT WILL GET PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN THE CITY. AND IT'S A GOOD THING THEY WE TALKED WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL, HAVING A PROGRAM LIKE THEY HAVE AT MARTIN COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LEADERSHIP, MARTIN COUNTY, WHERE YOU LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON AND YOU GO TO THE LEADERSHIP CLASS. WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE ACTUALLY WERE SUPPOSED TO IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM FOR THE CITY. IT WAS IT WAS CALLED STAR OR SOMETHING, I DON'T REMEMBER. DAVE COLLIER WAS THE ONE THAT WAS KIND OF SPEARHEADING SOME OF THAT EFFORT. AND THEN IT JUST IT DIDN'T COMPLETELY HAPPEN. BUT WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IS PEOPLE LIKE US WOULD GO AND WE WOULD COMMIT TO GO TO THESE PROGRAMS, AND THEY'D TEACH US HOW THE UTILITIES WORKS AND WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, WHAT'S INVOLVED IN MAIN STREET, WHAT'S INVOLVED IN WHATEVER AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO GET MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND BUY IN AND FEEDBACK, I THINK WOULD BE GOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AS SOMETHING MAYBE TO, TO THINK ABOUT. JUST GO ON THE RECORD FOR IT IS WHAT I WANTED TO DO. BUT OTHERWISE, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND, ALL IN

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