Mar 24, 2025 Regular City Commission Meeting

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LET ME GET MY. MADAM CLERK, ARE YOU READY? I'M READY.

[ROLL CALL]

THE 24TH OF MARCH, 2025. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER JOB LIMPS TO THE DAIS.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR RICH HERE. VICE MAYOR COLLINS HERE.

COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE. COMMISSIONER. JOB HERE.

COMMISSIONER REED, ABSENT. AND THIS EVENING, OUR INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR JIM BROSIUS OF THE SEWARD ALLIANCE CHURCH.

AND WILL YOU THEN LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AS WELL? THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. SO LET'S PRAY.

THANK YOU, FATHER, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT, GREAT LOVE FOR US.

THANK YOU THAT WE CAN CALL UPON YOU FOR WISDOM AND DIRECTION.

LORD, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THESE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND ALL LORD, THAT ARE HERE TO HELP AND TO ENFORCE AND TO ENCOURAGE AND TO BUILD UP OUR COMMUNITY.

PRAY THAT YOU WILL GRANT THEM WISDOM, LORD, AS THEY WORK WITH EACH OTHER.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN EACH ONE, AND I PRAY THAT AS THEY WORK TOGETHER, WE WOULD BE BLESSED AS A CITY AND OUR WE WOULD BE BLESSED AS A PEOPLE.

SO AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS AND ASK AGAIN THAT YOU WOULD BRING GREAT GOOD FROM EVEN TONIGHT'S MEETING.

PRAY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WE'RE NOT LATE. HELEN'S NOT EVEN HERE YET. OKAY.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND. YOU TWO GOT IT DOWN TODAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

IS THERE ANY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? MADAM CLERK, ON ANY NON-AGENDA RELATED ITEMS? I DO HAVE SOME. ARE WE DOING COMMENTS BY COMMISSION AND COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER? OH. THEY GOT. WELL, WE CAN DO IT IN A DIFFERENT ORDER, IF YOU'D PREFER.

OH. I'M SORRY. MY BAD. RIGHT. COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS.

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

I JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE BE AWARE THAT WE'RE HAVING FRIDAY FLICKS AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER.

MARCH 28TH, 2025. THE MOVIE PASSING WILL BE SHOWN AT 5:30 P.M.

AND WE ARE PASSING. AND WE APPRECIATE THE WHAT'S THE MOVIE? PASSING. PASSING. OKAY. AND WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER.

AND COMING UP IN MAY IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A CALENDAR SCHEDULE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COORDINATING SOME THINGS WITH, OF COURSE, MARTIN COUNTY'S 100 YEAR IN 2025.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STARTED ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO WAS TO CELEBRATE FLORIDA'S EMANCIPATION DAY, WHICH IS MAY 20TH, 2028, AND THAT'LL BE TUESDAY.

AND WE'LL BE HAVING A PROGRAM AT SAINT PAUL AME CHURCH THAT TUESDAY STARTING AT 5:30 P.M..

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT, AND WE'RE INVITING THE PUBLIC TO COME TO SAINT PAUL AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT FLORIDA'S EMANCIPATION DAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THE THEME THAT THEY HAVE IN TALLAHASSEE.

AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT AND MAKING THAT PRESENTATION.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE DID HAVE A MEETING ON MARCH THE 20TH AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER.

TO ME, IT HASN'T BEEN THE FIRST TIME. IT PROBABLY HAS BEEN THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A BUSINESS MEETING THERE.

WE'VE HAD TOWN HALLS WHERE WE'VE HAD THE COMMISSION THERE.

AT LEAST I KNOW THAT WHEN I HAD A TOWN HALL IN 2013, WE HAD THE ENTIRE COMMISSION THERE.

BUT IT WAS POOR TOWN HALL, NOT FOR A FULL AGENDA MEETING.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO APPRECIATE THE STAFF AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER AND OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETIMES HARD FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE WHEN WE GO KIND OF ON A DIFFERENT ROUTE,

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AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO ACCOMMODATE US AS A COMMISSION, HAVING AN OFFICIAL COMMISSION MEETING THERE AT THE RECREATION CENTER ON 10TH STREET.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, I HAVE NONE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK SAID, AND, YEAH, IT WAS WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN TURN OUT IN THOSE NUMBERS AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

WE'RE FORCED TO REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE AND WHAT AN IMPACT.

WHAT A BROAD IMPACT THEY WILL IN FACT HAVE. SO GOOD FOR US.

AND YES, THANK YOU STAFF FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN AND WORK SO WELL.

COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER. I JUST I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE TO THOSE DIRECTORS.

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO PUT THOSE MEETINGS ON.

AS YOU KNOW, THE RECORDING FOR THE MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE THE OTHER NIGHT WAS A CHEST CAMERA.

POLICE BODY CAM. POLICE BODY CAM. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAPE RECORD THOSE MEETINGS, AND NOW WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PUT IT ONLINE.

BUT IF WE PUT IT ONLINE AND WE DON'T PAY TO HAVE IT, GET THE TRANSCRIBED.

TRANSCRIPTION OR THE CLOSED CAPTIONING, THEN WE VIOLATE THE ADA.

AND WE'VE BEEN SUED FOR THAT BEFORE. SO SOMETIMES YOUTUBE CAN AUTOMATICALLY TRANSCRIBE IT.

BUT OF COURSE CHEST CAMS AREN'T YOUR TYPICAL IPHONE VIDEO THAT THEY'RE USED TO PEOPLE UPLOADING.

SO IT'S NOT AS EASY. AND AND HAVING THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE AS WELL FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT ON THE BOARD OR TO ACCESS OTHER DATA AND THINGS ON THE SERVER BECOMES COMPLICATED.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE NEED TO SCHEDULE OUR NEXT MEETING AT 10TH STREET.

I BRING THAT UP TOO, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE MEETING OVER THERE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS.

AND EXCUSE ME, I'VE JUST BEEN TOLD AGAIN THAT THERE'S NO SOUND FROM THE.

FOR REMOTE VIEWING. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. I'M GOING TO START MOVING MY MOUTH.

YEAH. YOU CAN'T. THEY DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING.

NO, WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR THEM AGAIN. SO, ANYWAY THE THE 10TH STREET, THIS NEXT ONE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MORE LIKE A WORKSHOP ANYWAY, I SUPPOSE. OR I GUESS IT WON'T BE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO. IT WAS TABLED AGAIN.

IF THE COMMISSION'S DESIRE IS FOR US TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE AND HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR FINAL READING.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE THAT WORKS FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO PICK SOME DATES.

RIGHT NOW, WE CAN START DOING THAT. OBVIOUSLY, TODAY IS THE 24TH OF MARCH.

RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE COMMISSION MEETINGS ON THE SECOND MONDAY THAT WE.

I'M LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS ANYWAY, AND I CAN I CAN ASK HIM AFTERWARDS.

AND IF HIS DATES CLEAR WE WE CAN BE. WHEN WOULD BE THE FIRST AVAILABLE SINCE YOU HAVE TO NOTICE IT.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SOONER. WELL, MARCH MONDAY THE 14TH OF APRIL, WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND THAT WEEK WOULD REALLY BE THE SOONEST JUST BECAUSE DOING THE NOTICE, LIKE IF WE SENT THE NOTICE OUT RIGHT NOW IS THE 24TH, WE COULD I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD GET IT OUT THIS WEEK BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SEND IT TO NAPLES, I BELIEVE. SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL MONDAY THE 31ST OR TUESDAY THE FIRST.

IS IT TEN DAYS, MARY, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE OUT? IT'S IT'S SEVEN DAYS.

IF YOU'RE ANNOUNCING A MEETING TO DO ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE, IT'S THE ORDINANCE.

I'M SORRY. YES. TEN DAYS. OKAY, SO IT'S TEN DAYS.

SO THAT WOULD JUMP ME TO THE 11TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY.

AND THEN MONDAY THE 14TH IS ACTUALLY OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING DATE.

SO TUESDAY THE 15TH, TUESDAY THE 15TH, WEDNESDAY THE 16TH, THURSDAY THE 17TH ARE ALL APPROPRIATE.

I SHOULD MENTION THAT SUNDAY THE 13TH IS COMMISSIONER CLARK'S BIRTHDAY.

WEDNESDAY THE 16TH IS THE MAYOR'S BIRTHDAY. HEY, WE HAVE THREE IN APRIL.

I HAVE THAT THERE TOO. YES. THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE. YOU THINK ALIKE. YOU SEE THAT? OH YEAH. THAT'S IT. DO YOU WANT IT ON YOUR BIRTHDAY? TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OF ANY OF THOSE OF THAT WEEK IS FINE WITH ME.

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I CAN'T DO TUESDAY. OKAY. I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN.

ACTUALLY, BOTH AUDIO FEEDS ON YOUTUBE AND SWAGIT ARE NOW WORKING.

SO DOES WEDNESDAY THE 16TH SOUND APPROPRIATE FOR EVERYBODY AT FIVE 16TH? I'M GOOD, AND I'M GOOD ON THE 17TH OR 18TH ALSO.

SO 1617. I'LL TAKE I'LL SHOOT FOR THE 16TH ON THE INITIAL DATE.

I'M NOT AVAILABLE ON THE 18TH. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE, LIKE, PICK THE 16TH FOR NOW, AND I'LL CONSULT WITH COMMISSIONER REED.

AND AGAIN, THE TIMING FOR THAT BEING 5 OR 530.

I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY CARE. WHATEVER WORKS BETTER FOR YOU GUYS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOOD. FIVE, 5:00 YOU KNOW, THE LAST TWO MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD THERE, MYSELF AND THEN THE COMMISSION WERE FIVE AND THEY SEEM TO BE ABLE TO TURN OUT WELL.

SO IT'S I'D RATHER START A LITTLE EARLIER AND END A LITTLE EARLIER.

I AGREE. IS THAT GOING TO BE A WORKSHOP? BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WANTED TO TALK AGAIN BEFORE WE.

I WOULD PREFER THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING TO ACTUALLY GET RID OF THIS ORDINANCE.

BUT MY THOUGHT, THE WHOLE IDEA WAS FOR US TO TALK AT THE NEXT MEETING WHERE THEY WERE HAVING WE WERE HAVING DIALOG.

THEY WERE ABLE TO ASK US QUESTIONS. WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.

SO I'LL TELL YOU, THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND I MET FOR ABOUT AN HOUR TODAY AND DISCUSSING KIND OF HOW TO PUT THIS NEXT MEETING TOGETHER. BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD NOT READ THE STREET NAMES AND WANTED TO HAVE A MORE FOCUSED OR ZOOMED IN PRESENTATION. SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IS ZOOM IN ON THOSE MAPS AND BREAK IT INTO THREE MAPS, ONE BEING THE BMU OR THAT READ MAP AND GIVING ALL THE STREET NAMES AND ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING WITH THE SATELLITE VIEW, THE ACTUAL USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE ON THE STREETS, AND THEN BEING ABLE TO SHOW WHAT USES WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

ALSO, USING THE PRIOR ZONING FROM THE 1978 MAP AND ACTUALLY GIVING IT COLOR SO IT MATCHES, AND SHOWING WHAT USES WERE AVAILABLE TO THOSE SAME SITES IN 1978, AND THEN 30 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES AND 30 MINUTES IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING OF SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE FIRST MAP, WHICH IS THE RED AREA, AND MAYBE IT'S LAKE STREET AND, AND EAST STREET AND FOCUS FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES ON IT AND THEN MOVE TO THE SECOND MAP, FOCUS FOR 30 MINUTES ON IT, AND THEN MOVE TO THE THIRD MAP, FOCUS FOR 30 MINUTES ON IT, AND THEN LET IT BECOME A FREE FOR ALL AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE INTERCONNECTIONS, BUT AT LEAST TRY TO GET ALL THREE SEPARATED AND DISCUSSED IT.

I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY I AGREE WITH YOU. ZOOMING IN.

RIGHT, YOU NEED TO ZOOM IN ON TARPON AND BAHAMA AND KIND OF OVER THERE, YOU NEED TO ZOOM IN AND DO 10TH STREET.

SO IT WOULD IT WOULD BE THE USAGE YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE THREE USES.

SO YOU HAVE BMU, YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX AND YOU HAVE GROW, WHICH IS GENERAL RESIDENTIAL OFFICE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTENTION ABOUT THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. YEAH, BUT WHEN I ZOOM IN ON SFD OR SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, THERE'S THAT SECTION THAT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, DO, DO THEY WANT THIS BECAUSE WE WOULD GO THROUGH SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX AND SHOW THIS IS WHAT'S HERE BECAUSE NOT JUST A MAP WITH COLOR ON IT THAT'S BROWN, BUT ACTUALLY A SATELLITE.

AND THIS IS A HOUSE. THIS IS A HOUSE, THIS IS A HOUSE, THIS IS A CHURCH, THIS IS A HOUSE, WHATEVER IT IS SHOWING THE SURROUNDING STUFF.

AND THEN AT THE END BLOWING IT BACK OUT TO NOW, HERE'S THE ENTIRE EAST STEWART NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE ALL THE STREETS. THESE ARE WHERE SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX BUMPS UP TO GROW, OR WHERE GROW BUMPS UP TO A BUSINESS MIXED USE SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THE TRANSITIONS. WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE METHOD OF POLLING? I KNOW I KIND OF UNOFFICIALLY WENT UP THERE AND SAID, SHOULD THIS BE RESIDENTIAL AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT? WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO WITHOUT GOING THROUGH AN ENTIRE CYCLE OF PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS? I MEAN, THERE IS THE THE IDEA OF THE STICKERS.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE WHERE YOU CAN HAND RAISE OR SOMETHING. WELL, WE COULD HAVE THE MEETING START AT SIX, BUT WE COULD HAVE STAFF START AT FIVE, AND WE COULD LITERALLY TELL THE PUBLIC TO COME FROM 5 TO 6, AND WE COULD HAVE RED GREEN AND THE TAN COLORED.

WE WANT TO HAVE AFTER YOU'VE BEEN EXPLAINED WHAT IT IS.

WHAT DO YOU WANT? OR YOU COULD DO IT THEN AFTERWARDS TOO. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE WAY THEY DO IT IN THE. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO PULL WITH A HAND RAISE. WELL, YOU I MEAN, YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

I'M ASKING JUST SO. IT'S IT DEPENDS ON WHO'S PRESENT IN THE MEETING.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF I HOLD WITH THE HAND RAISE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WOULD ACCURATELY REFLECT THE MAKEUP OF STUART, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S HERE AND WHO ISN'T.

THE MEETING THAT WAS THERE LAST TIME HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE PRESENT.

BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANY OF THEM, LIKE, ACTUALLY LIVED, I THINK. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO SAY IF YOU, IF YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR OWN PROPERTY, WOULD YOU STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND OR SOMETHING?

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BUT BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THIS TIME IS TAKE ACTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, SO WE DON'T END UP EXTENDING THIS TO ANOTHER MEETING.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND THEN POLL, AND THEN THREE QUARTERS OF THEM SAY, HEY, WE WANT IT TO BE COMMERCIAL. COOL. FANTASTIC.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT THING. AND THEN JODY CAN GO THROUGH 10TH STREET AND WHAT IT WAS. AND IT'S IT'S ALSO INTERESTING WHEN YOU START DOING POLLING BECAUSE DO THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY OWN THE LAND GET MORE WEIGHT THAN THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T.

I MEAN, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF VESTED INTERESTS AND PRIORITIES.

AND I THINK A PERSON THAT LIVES ON THE STREET IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A PERSON THAT WANTS TO LIVE ON THE STREET.

DO YOU THINK THE PERSON THAT LIVES THERE IS BEING IMPACTED DAILY BY THAT ACTIVITY? WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK IT'S ARBITRARY TO HAVE LANDOWNERS AND THEN ALSO RESIDENTS STAND UP OR SOMETHING? I THINK IT I THINK IT IS ARBITRARY IF YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. I THINK IT STILL PROVIDES YOU INFORMATION.

I THINK THAT TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON SOMETHING. RIGHT. I THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO MAKE IT UP BASED UPON THEIR EXPERIENCES OVERALL. BUT I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE ONE PIECE OF THE DATA THAT YOU BASE YOUR DECISION ON, ON THE FEEDBACK YOU GET FROM THAT AUDIENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AT THE MEETING YOU SAID, HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE WANT AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING, YOU'D PROBABLY GET SOME NEGATIVES BECAUSE NOBODY IN MARTIN COUNTY WANTS ANYTHING OVER FOUR.

SO THAT WOULD BE A VERY EASY ONE TO SEE. OR DO YOU WANT TO PUT A GOLF COURSE IN A IN A STATE PARK.

IT WAS UNANIMOUS ACROSS ALL MAKES OF COMMUNITY THAT NOBODY WANTED THAT.

BUT ALSO WE RECEIVED. HOW MANY PETITIONS DID WE RECEIVE? MADAM. CLERK? 300. 338. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS IT? 338 PETITIONS. SO WE RECEIVED 338. AND SOME COMMISSION MEMBERS SAID, WELL, THOSE ARE MEANINGLESS BECAUSE THE NATURE, THE NATURE OF THAT PETITION WAS SAYING THAT THE COMMISSION WAS TAKING DISCRIMINATORY FOR WHATEVER REASON.

BUT IT WAS VAGUE. IT DIDN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE ACTION WAS THAT WAS DISCRIMINATORY OR WHATEVER.

THAT'S WHY I SAID WE WOULD ALL SIGN THAT ANY OF US WOULD SIGN THE SAME PETITION.

IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. AND TO TRY TO LEVERAGE THAT FOR YOUR PARTICULAR POSITION IS NOT VALUABLE.

BUT THEN THE CRITICISM COULD BE MADE OF, WELL, THAT RANDOM POLL YOU SOMEBODY PACKED IT TO ACHIEVE THAT RESULT.

THE SAME CRITICISMS COULD BE LEVIED THERE. BUT AS LONG AS WE SAID IF YOU LIVE HERE OR OWN PROPERTY, PLEASE STAND AND VOTE. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK AND YOU STILL MAY VOTE.

IT'S STILL ARBITRARY WHO IS ABLE TO ATTEND AND WHO IS UNABLE TO.

ABSOLUTELY ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THAT'S COMPLETELY ARBITRARY.

TO ASK THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE OR OWN LAND TO VOTE.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGES AND COMPATIBILITY AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S THERE IN THE AREA, THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK AT. SO NOT TAKING FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS AND LIKE MR. MOORE SAID, IT'S ONE IT'S ONE PART OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU I MIGHT SAY THAT IF I WAS IN THE MINORITY POSITION ON IT, BUT IF THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT A CERTAIN THING, WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT.

WELL, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, IF EVERYBODY'S PROPERLY NOTICED AND THEY'RE THERE, THAT'S ANOTHER THING, IS THE NOTICE, NOT JUST A NEWSPAPER NOTICE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND ABSOLUTELY CHANGE LIKE THAT, TO GO TO SOME INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND KEEP PLAYING WITH THINGS, INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE AREA AND LOOKING AT PARTICULAR ZONES AND CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY AND CONTIGUOUS USES AND SEE HOW IT MEETS WITH THE THE THE PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY.

THEN I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PATH WHERE IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT.

MR. MAYOR. COMMISSIONER JOB. OKAY. I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN AND LIVE THERE, IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU LIVE IN. STUART, WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEONE TO BE BUILDING A FOUR STORY, 128 COMPLEX APARTMENT NEXT TO YOUR HOME? YOU'D LIKE SOME INPUT ON THAT? YOU WOULDN'T JUST WANT SOMEONE LOOKING AT IT JUST FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL OR THE REGIONAL OR, YOU KNOW, THE THE ZONING. YOU'D WANT SOME INPUT AS AN OWNER WHO'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK WHAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT, TOO, IS THAT WHEN WE SEND THE NOTICE OUT, THE PEOPLE IN EAST STUART WHO OWN THERE AND, AND LIVE THERE, WELL, THE PEOPLE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO OWN AND DON'T LIVE THERE.

THERE'S PEOPLE WHO OWN AND LIVE THERE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN THE NOTICE THAT WE WILL BE TAKING A POLL, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEIR PRESENCE IS IS NEEDED AND THAT THEY ARE HEARD.

AND I KNOW IT'S AN IMPOSITION TO STAFF, AND I KNOW THEY'RE ALL GOING TO HATE ME.

BUT YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE WALL. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THREE LARGE AND THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR FOR ANYONE SITTING IN AN AUDIENCE.

I MEAN, I BRING IT UP HERE ON MY PHONE AND I CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND LOOK BACK AT IT.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE A PRINTOUT, MAYBE BE FOUR PAGES EACH PAGE OF THAT BLOW UP SECTION OF THOSE STREETS, AND THEN WHAT THE THE ACRONYMS STAND FOR. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NEW TO THE COMMISSION.

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WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE ACRONYM. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO I THINK IT'S LIKE I SAID, IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE'LL BE TAKING A A VOTE OR A POLL OF OF WHAT THEIR INPUT IS.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT VISUALLY. THEY SEE IT IN FRONT OF THEM. I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE TAKING A POLL, BECAUSE IF THE POLL COMES BACK AND YOU DON'T FOLLOW IT, BUT YOU NOTICE THEM THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO A POLL AND FOLLOW IT, THE COMMISSION IS NOT BOUND BY A SUBJECTIVE OR OBJECTIVE POLL, BUT IF YOU PUT THAT IN THE NOTICE AND YOU TELL THEM THAT AND THEN YOU DON'T FOLLOW IT, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME AND AND AGAIN, YOU MIGHT NOT FOLLOW IT BECAUSE YOU FELT LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING SKEWED OR SOMETHING AMISS THAT NIGHT. BUT BUT I JUST I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO PUT IT IN THERE.

I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I TRUST THAT THAT YOU WILL COME UP WITH WORDAGE THAT WILL AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE THERE TO DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY.

AND YOU HAVE A POINT OF THE MEETING ITSELF, RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE A FORMAL MEANS OF TAKING REFERENDUMS, AND WE SHOULD NOT TRY TO AD HOC ANOTHER METHOD.

IF WHAT YOU WANT IS A REFERENDUM, THEN WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GO ACCORDING TO THAT METHOD.

I MEAN, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF EMAILS AND PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP WERE FOR BRIGHTLINE, AND THIS COMMISSION IGNORED THEM. SO RATHER THAN GETTING INTO THE DEBATE THAT MR. MARTEL DESCRIBES IS VERY POSSIBLE, THE REAL PURPOSE FOR MY COMMENT WAS TO JUST GET THE DATE AND TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF KIND OF INDICATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO ZOOM IN ON THE ROADS, AND WE WILL TRY AND PROVIDE MUCH MORE DETAILED INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN, IN FACT, EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HISTORICALLY AND EXACTLY WHAT DIRECTION THE CITY IS TALKING ABOUT GOING IN, SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE MISLED OR THAT THEY WERE LEFT OUT.

BUT CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER EACH ONE OF THOSE 30 MINUTE SECTIONS? THE PUBLIC NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO THIS I FEEL LIKE THIS IS INTENTIONALLY BEING MADE MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.

IT WAS VERY CLEAR, AND I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR NOT WANTING TO DO WHAT I'M ASKING.

IT WAS VERY CLEAR HOW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE, NOT NECESSARILY SOME OF THOSE LANDOWNERS, BUT IT WAS VERY CLEAR WITH THAT UNOFFICIAL POLL THAT I DID THAT PEOPLE WANTED BAHAMA AND TARPON AND 10TH STREET TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

THAT WAS VERY OBVIOUS IN THE ROOM. AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, ONCE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ZOOM IN AND SHOW WHO'S IN THE ROOM, WHAT THE USES ARE, WHAT GROW MEANS, AND GIVE THE OPTION BETWEEN, DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE RESIDENTIAL, OR DO YOU WANT THIS TO STAY AS GROW? AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GO BY VOICES, IF YOU WANT TO GO BY HANDS, WELL, YOU MAY NOT NECESSARILY COUNT ALL THOSE, BUT AT LEAST RECEIVE SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM YOUR ROOM.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT THAT MAP AMENDMENT EXERCISE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH FINAL READING.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE CONDITIONAL USE.

IT WILL GIVE INPUT TO STAFF. CERTAINLY TO BE ABLE TO WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CRB.

THE LIKE LET'S SAY LET'S SAY 90% OF THAT ROOM WANTS IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO START PUTTING TOGETHER A MAP AMENDMENT THAT KEEPS A GROW.

THE MAP AMENDMENT IS GOING TO BE CONVERTING IT TO RESIDENTIAL. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WHETHER WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP OR NOT, WE ARE GOING TO BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THE CITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO MAKE WHATEVER THE BORDERS ARE, WHEREVER THEY ARE A DIFFERENT COLOR, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AN ASSIGNED ZONING.

SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTS US TO CHANGE THAT MAP, THE COMMISSION WILL NEED TO.

AND BUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH US AFTER IT GOES TO LPA AND CRB.

RIGHT? WELL, EXCEPT FOR WE NEED RIGHT NOW WHAT IS IT TO GO TO LPA AND CRB? OKAY. SO WE WILL GIVE YOU THOSE. WE WILL GIVE YOU THOSE PARAMETERS BEFORE IT GOES THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. AND SO THEN YOU WILL HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT TO THAT WHILE WE'RE IN THE ROOM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US, WHETHER OR NOT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO FOLLOW THAT TONE, TO HEAR IT AND SEE IT. I DISAGREE. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND SEE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE PETITIONS BECAUSE THE PETITIONS WERE VAGUE.

THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. BUT IF WE SIT THERE AND SAY, DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL? THAT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR. COMMISSIONER.

VICE MAYOR, YOU'VE MADE A SUGGESTION AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT.

SO HOW DO WE WANT TO TAKE A VOTE? YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO ENGAGE WITH THE AUDIENCE HOWEVER YOU WANT AT THAT WORKSHOP OR THAT MEETING THAT NIGHT.

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ALL RIGHT, THEN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO HELP YOUR DECISION MAKING.

SURE. WELL, I THINK IT HELPS. I THINK EVERYBODY GETS INFORMATION FROM IT, REGARDLESS OF.

WE ALL CAN HEAR IT. OKAY. AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO SHUT ME DOWN FOR DOING THAT.

DON'T FORGET, DON'T FORGET. THE MAIN ISSUE IS THE CONDITIONAL USE CHARGE.

CONDITIONAL USE. BUT THERE'S TWO THINGS WE TOOK A LOT.

WE TOOK ALL THE FEEDBACK FOR CONDITIONAL USE LAST TIME.

I INTEND TO OFFER SOME ALTERNATIVES AT THAT NEXT MEETING, AND WE CAN KIND OF HASH THAT OUT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IF WE MAKE A MOTION.

BUT REALLY THAT MAP AMENDMENT IS ALMOST SHOULD BE BEFORE THAT.

BUT SO WE CAN GET THE MAP AMENDMENT HAS A LONG ROAD TO TRAVEL.

THE MAP AMENDMENT, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT THAT THAT MAY BE THE THE LAST.

HOPEFULLY WE GET IT DONE. THAT MAY BE THE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISCUSS THOSE STREETS WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, AND THE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE MAP AMENDMENT WILL PROBABLY BE HAPPENING IN HERE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHILE I'M IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I CAN GET FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THOSE STREETS TO BE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO TEN MORE SESSIONS AT 10TH STREET AND KEEP PUNTING THIS FURTHER AND FURTHER.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO. SORRY. SORRY, MR. MAYOR, I HAD MY LIGHT ON.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CHANGES AS PEOPLE COME ALONG.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO THINGS WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT'S WITHIN THE THE REALM OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES THAT YOU CAN DO WITHIN A ZONING CATEGORY.

ZONING IS ABOUT USE, AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS NEED TO BE PUT ON SO THAT YOU DON'T INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON PEOPLE, I KNOW THAT, JODY, YOU'RE GOING TO IMPROVE ON THE, THE THE MAP AND SO ON.

ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR IS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PULL UP THAT THE RIGHT NOW IT'S UNDER THE EAST.

STUART. AND ACTUALLY, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I SAW IN THE LANGUAGE ONCE IS MAJOR USE AMENDMENT AND SOMEPLACE ELSE IT SAYS MINOR USE AMENDMENT. SO THAT NEEDS SOMEWHERE IN THE CODE AS WELL AS WHAT'S WRITTEN ON THE APPLICATION FORM.

BUT THAT APPLICATION FORM FOR E STEWART ON THE CONDITIONAL USE NEEDS TO BE PULLED UP.

AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT THE STREETS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S COMPATIBLE, IT'S NO USE TO HAVE A A CONDITIONAL USE. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE AND LOTS OF EXISTING USES THAT ARE RIGHT BESIDE EACH OTHER THAT ARE GOING TO FLOW NATURALLY, AND THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED TO SAY THAT THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE IN THIS AREA FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE SETTING UP PEOPLE TO DO IS TO COME IN ANYWAY, PAY THAT $1,500, $1,600 TO DO A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION. AND WHEN YOU DO THE CHECK MARK FROM ONE THROUGH 10 OR 1 THROUGH 13, THEY REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL USE. LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THOSE CATEGORIES AND REALLY BE CAREFUL.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL. WE WANT TO HONOR THE THE THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY WANT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A ZONING CODE THAT HAS USES AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

SO IF WE NEED TO EVEN PULL A USE FROM A PARTICULAR AREA, LET'S SAY IT'S IN THE GRA AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE CMU AS A HIGHER, MORE INTENSE USE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS USES.

OKAY. SO I KNOW THAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME SUGGESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT TOO. BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ZONING AND TO STOP LAWSUITS IN ZONING.

I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. I KNOW IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR COMMENTS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND WAS AFTER HEARING FROM EVERYBODY, IT SEEMED LIKE THE HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE THE HIGH RISE THING WAS, WAS KIND OF A CONCERN, 4 TO 5FT THE HIGHER.

SO SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND AND, AND JUST GIVEN THIS OFFERING THIS SO YOU GUYS CAN MARINATE ON IT FROM NOW UNTIL THEN, WOULD BE PULLING BACK SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USES FOR SOME OF THOSE USES THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT FOR THAT KIND OF A THING. SO WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN, WHAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME IN IS THREE AND FOUR STORY, RIGHT. MIXED USE ALF HOTEL MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S GOING TO BE APARTMENTS, NOT LIKE DUPLEX AND THAT KIND OF THING, BUT USES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT BARBERSHOP, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT THINGS THAT CHILD CARE THOSE PROBABLY AFTER LISTENING TO EVERYBODY PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE CONDITIONED BY CONDITIONAL USE.

SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO OFFER WAS TO PUT SOME STARTING TO PULL SOME OF THOSE CUES OUT OF THERE AND KEEP IT, BUT KEEP IT TO WHETHER IT'S GROW OR BMU, THE USES THAT ARE MOST LIKELY GOING TO COME IN VERY INTENSIVE.

YEAH, AND THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE CONDITIONAL USE.

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NOT ALL OF THEM. NOT ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM? NOT ALL OF THEM. OH, I THOUGHT, OKAY, WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING CONDITIONAL USE, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, MIKE. THE 20TH.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR COMMENTS, MR. VICE MAYOR? ARE YOU.

COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL LIT. DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I WAS GOING TO BE ALL DETAILED, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. MR. MARTELL, DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE FROM US AT THIS POINT TO SCHEDULE THIS ON WEDNESDAY THE 16TH? YES. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, I FOUND THIS CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.

ACHIEVEMENT. ACHIEVEMENT? FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

ONCE AGAIN, THEY RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING, THE 2025. SO THE CITY WAS AWARDED THE EXCELLENCE IN BUDGETING AWARD FOR THE 2025 VERSION, HOPING TO GET IT AGAIN FOR THE 26. BUT I DO HAVE TWO CERTIFICATES ATTACHED TO MY EMAIL THAT I WILL BE SHARING WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR HERE TO RECEIVE RECOGNITION FOR SEEING HIDING IN THE BACK ROOM NOW, BUT HE'S WAITING FOR THE PIZZA OUT IF YOU WANT TO.

HE'S WAITING FOR THE PIZZA. I'M EMBARRASSED TO SEE HIM.

WE'LL HAVE HIM. THERE HE IS. THERE HE IS. COME ON.

HIDING HIS FACE. COME ON UP. BRING IT ON OUT.

YOU TELL US ABOUT THE AWARD, JOLIE. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

YES. THE THE WHOLE CITY, ACTUALLY, TO THE TWO AWARDS THAT THE MANAGER IS REFERRING TO IS FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH INVOLVES 125 COUNTRIES, ACTUALLY ACROSS THE WORLD.

WOW. AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE SUBMIT OUR ANNUAL BUDGET FOR REVIEW BY THESE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GROUP. SO THEY HAVE PEER GROUPS THAT COME TOGETHER AND THESE OTHER FINANCE AND BUDGET OFFICERS FROM THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET AND THEY SAY, DID YOU HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S CLEAR AND CONCISE, ONE THAT'S EASILY READABLE, ONE THAT PROVIDES INFORMATION PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN READING. AND IS THERE A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THERE THAT MEETS THIS STANDARD? AND WE WERE AWARDED THAT FOR OUR 25, 2025 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AS WELL.

IN THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE ALSO RECEIVED THE AWARD FOR OUR 2023 FISCAL AUDIT, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS THE ACT FOR THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY BEING AUDITED FOR 24.

SO THE AUDITORS ARE HERE NOW AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BOOKS AND AUDITING 24.

SO THE AUDIT FOR 24 YEAR WILL BE READY SOON. AND I EXPECT TO SUBMIT FOR THAT AWARD AS WELL.

SO WHAT DOES THAT RECOGNITION FOR THAT AUDIT CONSIST OF.

I MEAN, WELL, SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY BEING A FULL SERVICE CITY, WE HAVE TO MAKE DISCLOSURES ON BOTH A GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARD AND A PRIVATE ACCOUNTING STANDARD, BECAUSE THE WATER FUND, YOU KNOW, THE WATER PLANT, THE SEWER PLANT, THE SANITATION OPERATION, STORMWATER, THOSE ARE RUN LIKE BUSINESSES, WHEREAS POLICE AND FIRE AND STREETS ARE RUN LIKE A GOVERNMENT.

AND SO THEY LOOK AT OUR FINANCIALS, WHICH INCORPORATES THINGS YOU'D FIND IN A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION LIKE INTEL, BUT ALSO THINGS YOU'D SEE IN A GOVERNMENT. AND THEY SAY, WELL, WE'VE DONE OUR DILIGENCE TO A PROVIDE THE INFORMATION COMPREHENSIVELY ACROSS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SECTORS AND DIFFERENT REPORTS, AND INCLUDES WHAT OUR LONG TERM DEBTS ARE AND INCLUDES WHAT OUR PROJECTED PAYOUTS IN THE FUTURE ARE. IT ALSO INCLUDES LARGEST TAXPAYERS IN MARTIN COUNTY AND STUART AND WHO THE BIGGEST EMPLOYERS ARE.

THERE'S A LOT OF STATISTICAL INFORMATION IN THERE ALSO ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE, LIKE SOME OF THOSE RATIOS YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WHERE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE TO REVENUE ARE WE KEEPING? A A TREND THAT'S POSITIVE FOR THE CITY. ALSO, THERE ARE THINGS LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT IN GOOD FINANCIAL CONDITION, YOU'LL WIND UP ON A REPORT THAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND YOU'D BE ON FINANCIAL WATCH.

SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENTS RECENTLY EXPERIENCED SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT REPORTS AND THEY'VE NOW, YOU KNOW, BEEN PENALIZED IN CERTAIN WAYS. BUT THANKFULLY, STEWART IS UP TO DATE ON OUR REPORTS AND WE SEEM TO KEEP MAKING MEETING MR..

YEAH, ONE OF ONE OF THE CRITICISMS I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THE LEAST WELL FOUNDED IS THAT THE CITY IS FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE, AND IT JUST IS THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE THAT THIS IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE FISCAL CITY MANAGER, THE COMMISSION AND YOU AS WELL. AND THIS RECOGNITION IS VALIDATION OF THAT.

SO I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU FOR THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

YEAH. THE CITY MANAGER ONE TIME MADE A COMMENT.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THE THERE'S A COMEDY MOVIE WHERE THE GUY HAS A BIG BAG OF CASH AND HE SAYS, I HAVE A BIG BAG OF NO. SO I KNOW HOW TO SAY NO IN LIKE 50 DIFFERENT WAYS AND JUST ONE MINUTE.

SO WE TYPICALLY SAY, NO, THANK YOU. PEOPLE LOVE THAT.

THANK YOU JOLIE. THANK YOU. WELL DONE. SO THANK YOU, JOLIE, VERY MUCH.

ALSO A QUICK UPDATE ON 10TH STREET AND PALM BEACH ROAD.

WE'VE BEEN GATHERING INFORMATION. THE POLICE HAVE HAD THE TRAILER OUT, CHECKING SPEED AND TRAFFIC COUNTS ON 10TH,

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WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE LITTLE YELLOW PLASTIC MEN THAT GO IN LIKE THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

YOU'LL START SEEING SOME OF THOSE POP UP SOON, AND THEN THAT THERE'S INFORMATION COMING IN FROM NEIGHBORS.

AND I'M GOING TO GET A CONSULTANT INVOLVED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES.

BUT THERE'S SEVERAL IDEAS THAT CAN BE COMING FORWARD.

I JUST WANT TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED THAT WE ARE DOING IT AND IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU.

THE SOUND ORDINANCE IS ALSO GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU AT A MEETING.

I HAD TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT IT AT THE LAST STAFF MEETING, AND IN THE PAST WE ACTUALLY CREATED A SOUND COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT, INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING A PRESENTATION ON THE SOUND ORDINANCE, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE, PROBABLY AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO I'LL BE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT THE LAST THING AS IT RELATES TO THESE, THESE REMOTE MEETINGS AS, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS AND WE ACT LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN A LONG TIME, IT ALMOST REINFORCES THE NEGATIVE NATURE OF THE FACT THAT WE WEREN'T THERE.

BUT EAST STUART IS THE CLOSEST NEIGHBORHOOD TO CITY HALL OTHER THAN POTSDAM.

EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN STUART IS FURTHER AWAY FROM CITY HALL THAN EAST STUART IS.

AND SO WE ARE VERY ACCESSIBLE RIGHT HERE. AND ON TOP OF THAT, IF YOU GET IN YOUR CAR AND YOU DRIVE 2.5 MILES, YOU'RE LEAVING STUART BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FIVE MILES, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY GO MUCH FURTHER THAN HALFWAY THROUGH AND YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY OUT AGAIN. SO THE FURTHEST NEIGHBORHOOD AWAY IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES AWAY FROM CITY HALL.

AND YOU HEAR ABOUT THESE COUNTIES THAT HAVE REMOTE MEETINGS.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BIG COUNTY THAT MIGHT BE 100 MILES WIDE OR SOMETHING.

AND THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THESE MOVING MEETINGS OR GOING TO NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

BUT I, I THINK IT'S FAIRLY COMMON FOR FOR REGULAR FOLKS IN STUART TO DRIVE THROUGH ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ON ALMOST A REGULAR BASIS.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, THEY CAN DO IT ON THE WAY TO THE MEETING BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE AND SO CONVENIENT.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T START CREATING A TREND THAT PEOPLE PERCEIVE THAT THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO COME TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SET UP BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND START HAVING MEETINGS, BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T WE CAN'T DO IT. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, THE 10TH STREET REC CENTER EXISTS AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO EAST STUART.

BUT I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE IN EAST STUART TO PERCEIVE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING THERE IF WE DON'T GO IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IN THE CHARTER FOR US TO HAVE THE MEETINGS AT CITY HALL AND FOR THEM TO TAKE PLACE, ETC., IF THEY SENSE WE DON'T CARE, RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GOING THERE.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE LITERALLY THE CLOSEST NEIGHBORHOOD TO CITY HALL.

SO OUT OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE REACH OUT TO, THERE WOULD BE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MIGHT BE LESS ACCESSIBLE THAN THAT.

BUT EITHER WAY, WE WILL HAVE THAT AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT IS THE WRAPPING IT UP FOR ME. THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK MR.. YOU MAY ASK THE CITY MANAGER ANYTHING.

COMMISSIONER. CITY MANAGER. I HAD BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE ON THE PALM BEACH ROAD AND MLK.

IT'S A IT'S A COUNTY THING TO TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF A CROSSWALK AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

THERE WAS. WE ON TWO OCCASIONS HAVE MONITORED MLK BOULEVARD IN PALM BEACH ROAD FROM 415 UNTIL 05:00 BECAUSE STEWART MIDDLE GETS OUT AT 405. AND ON ONE OCCASION WE COUNTED FOUR STUDENTS.

THEY CROSSED. OH, BOY. WE'LL CONTINUE. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT WITH THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD STUFF. BUT IT WAS FOUR FOUR AND 4:00.

IT WAS FOUR BETWEEN 415 AND 5:00. OKAY. THAT WINDOW, THAT WINDOW.

THANK YOU. JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT THE MEETING.

THE COMMISSION MEETING AT 10TH STREET COMMUNITY FOR EAST STEWART ABOUT EAST STEWART.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING.

IT HAS TO DO WITH PERCEPTION. AND I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE BE THERE.

I KNOW THEY DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE FOR EVERY MEETING, BUT I THINK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE THERE IN THE 10TH STREET COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE MEETING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA?

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, IT PASSES NOW.

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]

[00:40:01]

GOOD EVENING, MISS KELLY. GOOD EVENING. FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR.

COULD YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES. SORRY. I JUST KNOW I HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I'M, LIKE, TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT. MY NAME IS KIANA KELLY.

I AM THE MARTIN READS COORDINATOR, WHICH IS THE GRADE LEVEL READING PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY, FOR MARTIN COUNTY. AND I'M WITH CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF MARTIN COUNTY, WHICH DOES A GOOD WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY SUPPORTING VARIOUS AGENCIES.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S A LOT OF AGENCIES SINCE 1989.

AND WHAT I'M HERE FOR TODAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FIRST FOR THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SPEAK AND USE MY TIME FOR TODAY IS TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT THE SUMMER IS COMING.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY WINTER IS COMING, THE SUMMER IS COMING, AND SUMMER SLIDE IS A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME FOR OUR CHILDREN.

IT'S WHEN WE LOSE THE MOST OF OUR LEARNERS. AND THE MISSION STATEMENT OF MARTIN READS THAT I WANT EVERYONE TO SORT OF HOLD CLOSE TO THEIR HEART.

IT IS WHAT DOES IT TAKE SUCH THAT WE CREATE OR GROW LITERATE, COMPASSIONATE, CREATIVE CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD? AND IF OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT READING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW UP AT YOUR MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT ZONINGS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES IN THEIR HEALTH. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES FINANCIALLY, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS. SO WE HAVE A CRITICAL ISSUE, AND IT'S NATIONWIDE.

IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, MARTIN COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE MARKET CORNERED ON THIS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST USE MY TIME PUBLICLY TO SORT OF REMIND YOU GUYS THAT THE SUMMER IS COMING, AND IT IS A HUGE LEARNING LOSS TIME FOR US, WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT IN ANY PROGRAMS AND THAT WE LOSE A LOT OF OUR CHILDREN DURING THAT TIME. SO WE WANT TO JUST BE MINDFUL OF MAKING SURE THAT THE INFORMATION OF THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE ARE IS MADE AVAILABLE TO OUR PARENTS AND TO THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO FILL THE GAP OF THOSE CHILDREN THAT ARE JUST NOT GOING TO ANY OF ANY PROGRAMS DURING THE SUMMER.

I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES PROVIDES BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AT SOME OF THE FACILITIES, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING ISSUES AND A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT WE JUST WANT TO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU GUYS TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN, OUR LEARNERS FIRST. OUR LITTLE GUYS ARE THEY THEY NEED US AND THEY CAN'T DO IT BY THEMSELVES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAS SHE SPOKEN WITH YOU, MR. KOWALSKI, REGARDING WHAT CITY RESOURCES MAY BE AVAILABLE.

CAN I CAN I ASK A QUESTION? GOOD TIME TO INTRODUCE YOU TO.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. MISS KELLY. SORRY, WE NORMALLY DO.

DO YOU NEED BOOKS? LIKE, IF WE HAD A BOX OR SOMETHING AT CITY HALL? COULD PEOPLE JUST DROP THINGS OFF HERE? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO USE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO I DON'T DISTRIBUTE BOOKS. I DO COORDINATE GETTING BOOKS TO DIFFERENT PROVIDERS.

SO I KNOW THAT STEWART MIDDLE, THE PRINCIPAL THERE, HAS REACHED OUT ABOUT DOING A BOOK CLUB AND NEEDING BOOKS FOR THE CHILDREN THERE.

RIVERBEND ACADEMY IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF BOOKS.

SO THERE ARE THERE ARE DIFFERENT SPACES THAT DEFINITELY NEED BOOKS.

AND OF COURSE, IF THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE THEM AND GET THEM, FIGURE IT OUT. BUT YEAH, BOOKS ARE BOOKS ARE ONE OF THE WAYS THAT OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW, CAN GET ACCESS TO THE TOOLS.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT A LOT OF OUR KIDS ARE GOING INTO HOMES WHERE THEIR PARENTS CAN'T READ, THEY'RE GOING INTO HOMES WHERE THERE'S NOBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP THEM WITH THEIR LITERACY CHALLENGES. SO MAKING SURE THAT THEIR PARENTS HAVE THE SUPPORT.

MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL AS SOCIAL, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FOR JUST EXISTING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, TRYING TO KEEP A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD. OUR COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE SUFFERING. SO I WANT TO JUST REALLY SORT OF PUT THE LIGHT ON THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WAY MORE IMPORTANT TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT LITERACY IS MY BABY AND I'M, I'M, I SPEAK UP FOR THE LITTLE ONES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVE THAT FRONT OF MIND AS WE GO INTO OUR SUMMER AND OUR VACATIONS AND ALL OF THE THINGS. COMMISSIONER JOB. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD JUST REACH OUT TO ME IN AN EMAIL.

I HAD SOME THOUGHTS. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YOU GUYS CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME. I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO COME DOWN AND TALK PRESENTATIONS.

YOUR CHURCH, YOUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU GUYS.

YOU GUYS CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BY YOURSELVES. AND SO.

AND I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BY MYSELF, RIGHT? SO IF THERE'S IS ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU THINK, HEY, THEY'D BE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER. THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP OUT.

THEY'RE WILLING TO GET INVOLVED. PLEASE, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME.

I WILL TALK WITH ANYONE ABOUT THIS AND I WILL GET THEM INVOLVED.

I'LL GET THEM PLUGGED IN IMMEDIATELY. NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. NELSON. SOLANO. GOOD EVENING, MISTER SOLANO.

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AND I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE. I'VE BEEN SELECTED FROM MY COMMUNITY.

LOTS OF MY NEIGHBORS, WE LIVE ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN.

THE. OH, WE LIVE ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN STUART.

THANK YOU. AND VIRTUALLY ALL THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT UPSET WITH THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY BLOCKED THE THE TRAIN STATION.

SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE COOPERATE WITH THE COUNTY AND GET LET'S GET THIS STATION BUILT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

WE HAVE DOZENS OF BRIGHT LINE TRAINS COMING BY DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

WE GET TO LISTEN TO THE HORNS. WE GET TO BE INCONVENIENCED BY THE INTERSECTIONS.

YET WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO THE TRAIN. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE WHOEVER'S HOLDING OUT IN THIS IMPASSE TO PLEASE GET OVER THEMSELVES.

WE ARE ALL TAXPAYERS, AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS TAX FUNDED VIRTUALLY EVERYWHERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE ANY DIFFERENT. WE FEEL IT'S A NEED.

AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN STUART WANT THIS TRAIN STATION.

ALSO, IT AFFORDS THE STUDENTS AND WORKERS AND RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO DOWNTOWN WEST PALM BEACH IN JUST OVER 30 MINUTES WITHOUT HAVING TO PARK THEIR CARS OR PAY FOR PARKING OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

THEY INCREASE THE ECONOMIC STIMULUS TO OUR CITY.

ALLOW STUDENTS ACCESS TO BOCA COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES AND JUST IN ONE HOUR CUT DOWN ON THE TRAFFIC.

SO WE JUST WANT THE PEOPLE AT THE COMMISSION, WHOEVER'S HOLDING OUT.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHO IT IS. PLEASE STOP BEING SO SHORTSIGHTED AND INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR KIDS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEND TAX DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON THE ROADS.

WE COULD DO THIS ONE TIME EXPENSE TO GET THE STATION BUILT.

WE WANT TO AVOID SPENDING MONEY ON LITIGATION IN THE FUTURE.

ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS LITIGATING AGAINST THE TRAIN, TRYING TO BLOCK A METROPOLITAN AREA OF 6 MILLION FROM CONNECTING WITH THE METROPOLITAN AREA OF 3 MILLION. THAT BEING ORLANDO, WE COULD HAVE PUT THAT TOWARD THE STATION.

SO WE JUST WANT TO USE THE TAX DOLLARS WISELY AND INVEST AND GET THIS STATION BUILT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SLAWSON. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR?

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

YOU'RE TOO SLOW, COMMISSIONER. JOB. I SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? NO.

ALL IN FAVOR? ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER JOB.

YES. VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES. COMMISSIONER CLARK.

YES. MAYOR. RICH. YES. COMMISSION. ACTION. MR.

[4. RELEASE OF UNITY OF TITLE - 505 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY (RC): RESOLUTION No. 41-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RELEASING A UNITY OF TITLE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 505 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY, STUART, FLORIDA 34994, LEGAL PARCEL ID NUMBER 05-38-41-000-000-00170-1; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

IT'S RESOLUTION NUMBER 41. DASH 2025. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RELEASING A UNITY OF TITLE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 505 SOUTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, STUART, FLORIDA. 3499 FOR LEGAL PARCEL ID NUMBER 00000-00170-1, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I GUESS I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ITEM OR MR. MARTEL. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE MATTER OF POLK HOTELS THAT CAME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO SEEKING A CHANGE OF THE ZONING FROM URBAN WATERFRONT TO URBAN HIGHWAY IN A ONE THIRD PARCEL OF LAND THAT THEY HAD CONSOLIDATED WITH TWO OTHER PARCELS PRIOR TO OR AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. THEIR ATTORNEY DID A DEED RESTRICTION OR A UNITY OF TITLE UNIFYING THE THREE PARCELS THEY PURCHASED, TWO OF WHICH WERE URBAN HIGHWAY, ONE OF WHICH WAS URBAN WATERFRONT, INTO ONE SINGULAR PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER AND DEDICATED THE UNITY OF TITLE TO THE CITY OF STUART SO THEY CAN'T GO BACK TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND SUBDIVIDE IT WITHOUT THE COMMISSION GRANTING THE RESOLUTION.

THEY'VE ASKED US FOR A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THEM TO RESTORE THE PROPERTY TO THE THREE SEPARATE

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IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSION VOTED NO, I TOLD THEM I WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND IT WAS THE IT WAS THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD AS TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 41 2025.

SECOND. OKAY. OH, SHE GOT IT. WE HAVE WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOBY.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NOTHING. COMMISSIONER CLARK? NO. NO. I HOPE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING.

THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE PART OF IT CONDITIONALLY. WELL, WE'LL SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

MAYOR RICH? YES. COMMISSIONER SELBY. YES. COMMISSIONER.

CLARK. YES. VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES. MR. BAGGETT.

[5. CODE AMENDMENT TO MERGE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DUTIES TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2540-2025; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING PART Il, CHAPTER 2 (ADMINISTRATION), ARTICLE Ill (BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS), DIVISION 1 AND DIVISION 3 OF THE CITY OF STUART'S CODE OF ORDINANCES; PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

ALL RIGHT. TITLED THE ITEM IS CODE AMENDMENT TO MERGE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DUTIES TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2540 2025. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING PART TWO, CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION. ARTICLE THREE BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.

DIVISION ONE AND DIVISION THREE OF THE CITY OF STUARTS.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.

PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

AND AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED JUST A MINUTE AGO, THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

AND IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE WE WERE MERGING THE DUTIES FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND ADDING THEM TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY SO THEY WOULD TAKE OVER ALL OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DUTIES.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED LINES AND MARKUPS OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT'S REMOVING THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND ADDING THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND ADDING IT INTO THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? LEE, HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME. NO, NO.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2542540-2025.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOB AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SOME OLD BOA MEMBER? NO. OKAY. SEEING NONE. COMMENT OR QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION.

SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. COMMISSIONER CLARK.

YES. VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES. MAYOR RICH. YES.

COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES. WELL, WE'RE VERY EXPEDITIOUS THIS EVENING.

[6. ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY DISCUSSION ]

I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT MEETING DATES.

IN ESSENCE, I'M GOING TO LET OUR HR DIRECTOR.

I'M SORRY, ROZ. IT'S OKAY. WELL, GOOD EVENING ALL.

FOR THE RECORD, ROB STRONG, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE A RECRUITMENT UPDATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, WHICH I'LL WALK US THROUGH.

COMMISSION PROVIDED DIRECTION THAT A COMMITTEE BE FORMED TO REVIEW THE CANDIDATES.

THAT COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF SIX INDIVIDUALS LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE.

COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITIES WERE TO REVIEW ALL CANDIDATE CREDENTIALS AND MAKE INTERVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS.

COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE CREDENTIALS OF ALL 16 CANDIDATES.

WE DID HAVE ONE WITHDRAW. WE DID HAVE ONE STEP OUT.

HE WAS PROMOTED AT HIS CURRENT PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT, SO HE WITHDREW.

SO THAT LEFT US WITH 15 CANDIDATES TO REVIEW.

AND WE LOOKED AT THEIR EDUCATION EXPERIENCE, THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THE POSITION. WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION, ALL OF IT.

AND INTERESTINGLY, WE WERE ALIGNED WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE SEVEN THAT ARE RECOMMENDED TO YOU FOR INTERVIEW IN THE THREE RING BINDERS THAT WERE DELIVERED TO ALL OF YOU. ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE IN THERE, INCLUDING THE ONE WHO WITHDREW.

SO ALL 16 ARE IN THERE. AND THEN WE INCLUDED THE SUMMARY RECOMMENDATION, WHICH SHOWED KIND OF THE TALLY SHEET THAT THE COMMITTEE USED TO HAVE THEIR DISCUSSION AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. SO FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSION ON CANDIDATES AND HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS AUTHORIZATION TO DEVELOP THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.

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THE LOCATION FOR INTERVIEWS WOULD BE HERE AT CITY HALL.

COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE SITUATED IN SEPARATE OFFICES.

WE WOULD USE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUITE. WE'D PROBABLY USE SOME OFFICES DOWNSTAIRS, SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE COMMISSIONERS WERE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND IF YOU WANTED TO MEET WITH ALL SEVEN CANDIDATES, WE WOULD HAVE SEVEN SPACES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER TAKING UP TWO OF THOSE LOCATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A ROUND ROBIN.

VICE MAYOR COLLINS AND I LAUGH ABOUT IT BEING A SPEED DATING, SO IT'S A THE CANDIDATES ARE MOVING AROUND.

SO WE WOULD HAVE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY AND TWO OF THOSE SPOTS SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A STEADY FLOW, SUGGEST 30 MINUTES IN BETWEEN OR, SORRY, 15 MINUTES IN BETWEEN THE 30 MINUTE INTERVIEWS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL BETWEEN OFFICES.

THERE MIGHT BE A RESTROOM BREAK OR AN INTERVIEW MAY GO A LITTLE LONGER, SO RECOMMEND SCHEDULING FOR 30 MINUTES APIECE, 15 MINUTES IN BETWEEN. I WOULD PROVIDE TO YOU INTERVIEW QUESTIONNAIRES, DO'S AND DON'TS, AND TIPS AND GUIDELINES BECAUSE ONE OF THE PHILOSOPHIES WE WORK WITH HERE AT THE CITY IS THAT INTERVIEWING IS MORE THAN A FEELING.

IT'S MORE THAN A GUT FEELING. AN INTERVIEW QUESTIONNAIRE PROVIDES STRUCTURE TO THE PROCESS.

AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IN THAT PROCESS IF YOU'D LIKE.

WE CALL THAT PROBING. SO IF YOU ASK A QUESTION AND YOU WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU CAN ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MATCH THAT CANDIDATE OR AS THE DISCUSSION FLOWS.

BUT THIS INTERVIEW QUESTIONNAIRE DOES PROVIDE THE STRUCTURE.

AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS, WHERE DO THOSE QUESTIONS COME FROM? AND THEY REALLY COME FROM THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

SO THE JOB DESCRIPTION INFORMS A CANDIDATE OR A SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE WHAT TYPE OF WORK THEY WOULD BE DOING.

SO THE QUESTIONS, THE ORIGINAL QUESTIONS, THE ROOT OF THE PROCESS QUESTIONS COME FROM THAT JOB DESCRIPTION, RIGHT? THE IDEA IS THAT THE CANDIDATE THEN CAN PROVIDE PROOF THAT HE OR SHE CAN PERFORM THE DUTIES THAT YOU SEEK TO HAVE PERFORMED.

SO THIS PROVIDES STRUCTURE. AND THEN COMMISSIONERS CAN ALSO AND I WOULD LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER, PERHAPS FOR GUIDANCE. BUT I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, COMMISSIONERS WERE ABLE TO FUNNEL QUESTIONS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO THE CITY CLERK THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE. BUT MAYBE THAT'S PART FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT PROCESS WOULD, WOULD GENERALLY FLOW.

AND YOU WOULD ALSO RECEIVE A LIST OF THE DO'S AND DON'TS AND THE LANDMINES YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO GET INTO, AND TIPS AND GUIDELINES ON HOW TO RUN A SMOOTH INTERVIEW TO MAKE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE.

THIS, I BELIEVE, CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ONE DAY, THE FIRST BEING AT 9 A.M.

AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE AT 230. AND THAT'S IF YOU DO ALL SEVEN.

IT STILL PROVIDES AN HOUR FOR LUNCH, AND IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO GET BACK TO THE DAIS IN TIME ON THAT DAY, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT. WHAT FIVE OF THE SEVEN LIVE WITHIN? AND I SAID A THREE HOUR DRIVE ONE WAY. I THINK THE FARTHEST AWAY IS THE MIAMI AREA, AND I JUST ENVISION THE TRAFFIC THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHERE MY HEAD COMES FROM. BUT I THINK THE SUGGESTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE HERE MIGHT ALLEVIATE THAT.

BUT FIVE OF THEM LIVE WITHIN THREE HOURS, AND THEN TWO OF THEM LIVE OUT OF STATE.

ONE IS IN WASHINGTON, ONE IS IN VIRGINIA, WASHINGTON STATE.

THAT IS LIKE WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ONE'S IN VIRGINIA.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE THEY WOULD DO ZOOM, WHICH WE CAN ARRANGE, OR IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY WOULD FLY IN GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO GET HERE.

SO ANYTHING COULD ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN. IF THE LAST INTERVIEW WAS AT 230, COMMISSIONERS COULD MAKE IT BACK TO THE DAIS THAT SAME DAY AT 04:00 TO DISCUSS THE CANDIDATES. IS THAT A FORMALLY NOTICED MEETING 4 P.M.? IT WOULD BE IF YOU GUYS ARE IN. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD BE NOTICING IT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE WOULD PROBABLY CALL IT TO ORDER AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN HAVE YOU SPLIT UP. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

BUT WE WOULD. IF THE COMMISSION'S DESIRE IS TO MAKE A DECISION YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO MAKE, YOU HAVE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE. YOU COULD COME BACK.

AND JUST WHILE YOU'RE FRESH, DISCUSS SOME COMMENTS AND SOME FEELINGS THAT YOU HAD SO THAT YOU COULD ALL SHARE INFORMATION BEFORE GOING YOUR OWN SEPARATE WAYS TO DIGEST IT FOR 24 HOURS OR 48 HOURS, OR HOWEVER LONG YOU WANT.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO CALL REFERENCES TO OF THE PEOPLE I'M THINKING OF HIRING.

SO YOU CAN SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS THE HR DIRECTORS RECOMMEND IT.

WE COULD PROBABLY AT 4:00 PM, GET A PRETTY NARROW FOCUS ON.

RIGHT. DON'T YOU THINK WE WOULD. YEAH. AND, AND I HAVE TO SAY THE SCREENING COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD PROBABLY DISCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS FROM STICKING AROUND. OH I AGREE. NOT THAT THEY CAN'T GO LOOK IT UP LATER, BUT JUST SO THAT AND THEY AND TECHNICALLY THEY COULD SAY NO TO US BECAUSE IF IT'S A PUBLIC

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RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE NOT SPEAK AS FREELY IF THEY'RE SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT'S JUST MORE DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT. YOU'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW MR. BAGGETT AND MR. MARTELL YOURSELF? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING IT DOESN'T.

WE'RE NOT. I WASN'T PLANNING TO. IT'S REALLY MORE OF PLACEHOLDERS BECAUSE THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM SO THAT THERE'S TWO THAT WOULD BE SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING.

THEY MIGHT AS WELL JUST BE GOING THROUGH WITH US, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCUSSIONS.

AND I WOULD LIKE RYAN TO BE IN ONE OF THOSE ROOMS. SHE CAN TAKE MY PLACE. SHE'S LIKE A CIA AGENT.

YES. AND SO HAVING HER INTERVIEWING THEM ROUND ROBIN AS WELL.

DO YOU WANT RYAN TO BE IN ONE OF THEIR ROOMS? YES.

YEAH. GREAT. AND THAT'S WHO'S GOING TO. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ANYWAY. SO. YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

NO. RYAN'S TOUGH I AGREE. SHE'S GOOD. YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NAMES ON THERE.

THERE'S SEVEN NAMES, BUT PART OF THE CONVERSATION WAS HAVING IT.

HAVING THERE BE MORE OPTIONS FOR EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER.

AND ALSO, WHEN ROZ CALLS THESE INDIVIDUALS, SOME OF THEM DO LIVE OUT OF STATE AND REMINDING THEM THAT THIS IS A FULL TIME POSITION WHERE YOU WOULD BE HERE PHYSICALLY.

THIS IS NOT A REMOTE GIG. THERE MAY BE 1 OR 2 OF THESE SEVEN APPLICANTS THAT MAY END UP WITHDRAWING OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SLOWLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MOVE HERE WITHIN A TIME FRAME.

AND. RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION, I ASSUME.

RIGHT. YES, IT IS. OKAY. IT IS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE ON SITE APPLYING THINKING THEY CAN SKIRT THAT.

BUT THEY MIGHT ASK HER REMINDING THEM YES. YEAH.

AND THEY MIGHT ASK. YEAH EXACTLY. AND PROBABLY LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON WHETHER YOU GUYS WOULD AGREE TO ALLOW THEM TO APPEAR BY ZOOM.

OH, YEAH. YES. OH YEAH. SURE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE INTERVIEWS COULD BE DONE BY MR..

COUNCILMAN. OKAY. NO, I PREFER IN PERSON. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM, RIGHT? NO, I PREFER IN PERSON ALSO. BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY GATHER INFORMATION WHEN YOU'RE SEEING SOMEONE ON A ZOOM.

I WOULDN'T DO A PHONE CALL, BUT I'D LIKE A ZOOM.

YOU HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES. OKAY. CAN WE LIMIT IT TO JUST IF THEY'RE OUT OF STATE? YES. YES. BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU'RE UP TO YOU. I WOULD, I AGREE WITH THAT.

YES. YEAH. SO THERE'S TWO THAT ARE OUT OF STATE.

YEAH. THERE ARE TWO THAT ARE OUT OF STATE. THE OTHERS ARE WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. PRETTY EASY TO GET HERE. BUT WHAT I WAS AS WE KIND OF CITY MANAGER AND I KIND OF WALKED THIS THROUGH, THAT SUGGESTS THAT THE INTERVIEWS NOT TAKE PLACE ANY SOONER THAN TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.

SO THE WEEK OF APRIL 7TH IS TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.

BUT THAT'S EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION WEEK. THERE'LL JUST BE A LOT GOING ON.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS WAS ALREADY IN THE WE HAD AGREED ON A TIME FRAME FOR THIS.

SO THE TIME FRAME THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR BINDERS WAS JUST RECOMMENDED.

IT WAS JUST THROWING OUT DATES. IT CAN BE WHATEVER TIME YOU'D LIKE, BUT I'VE WHAT IS THAT TIME FRAME? FAMILY VACATIONS TO CLEAR THAT WEEK. SO THAT'S I DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY ANYMORE.

UNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT THAT WAS SET. SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT PLEASE.

THAT'S THE WEEK OF APRIL 21ST. YEAH. OKAY. NO, NO, I'VE MADE MY WIFE'S NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.

HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE. WELL, I'M OUT OF THE COUNTRY, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I WON'T BE HERE ON THE MONDAY. I'LL BE TRAVELING.

OKAY, SO WE ARE ONLY GOING TO NEED ONE DAY FOR THE INTERVIEWS.

THERE IS NO. NOT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. I HAVE AN ETHICS CLASS ON THE 24TH OF APRIL, ALL DAY AT IRSC, AND I HAVE A MEETING AT THE AIRPORT ON THE 25TH.

AND THEN I HAVE AN INVESTITURE FOR A JUDGE IN FORT PIERCE ON THE AFTERNOON ON THE 25TH.

ABOUT THE 22ND. 25TH. I'M NOT AVAILABLE. SECOND.

22ND. IF IF I'M ALLOWED BACK INTO THE UNITED STATES, I'LL BE HERE.

IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY ON EARTH DAY. YES.

THERE YOU GO. THE IRONY. BEAUTIFUL. 20S. 20S.

IF I GET BACK INTO THE. CAN'T BEAT THAT THAT THAT THAT DAY.

I'LL BE HERE 9 A.M. ON THE 22ND TO BE HERE. IF I GET BACK INTO THE COUNTRY.

OKAY. AND AND THEN ALSO, I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS WANT US TO ORDER SOME LUNCH OR SOMETHING FOR THAT DAY.

IS THAT HOW THEY WANTED TO DO IT? I STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM. WHAT WAS THAT, MIKE? YOU'RE ORDERING LUNCH FOR THE COMMISSION THAT DAY BECAUSE IT'S FROM NINE TO, LIKE, FOUR. LUNCH WOULD BE HERE. WE'D BRING IT IN. OKAY. DO YOU? UNLESS WE GET A COUPLE CANCELLATIONS. RIGHT. AND 1 OR 2 OF THEM.

DON'T COORDINATE WITH THEM. SURE. AND WE JUST MODIFY THE SCHEDULE.

SO YOU COULD WE COULD START THEM LATER, OR WE COULD START OR END EARLIER.

I HAVE A MONTH, SO I'M GOOD. OKAY. SO WE'RE SAYING 9 A.M.

22ND. 9 A.M. THE 22ND. OKAY, THAT WAS EASY. HOPEFULLY, COMMISSIONER REED IS A NOTICEABLE UNAVAILABILITY.

RIVERS COALITION IS THURSDAY, SO I'LL PUT A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY FOR THAT DATE INTERVIEW.

OKAY, SO IT'S 9 A.M., 9 A.M. ON THE 22ND. WE NEED TO DISCUSS RAJ.

NO, SIR. IT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD DIRECTION FROM YOU.

THAT WE WERE OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD, SCHEDULE THE INTERVIEWS AND GET THE PROCESS FLOWING.

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AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR DO'S AND DON'TS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE ANYTHING WHEN WE ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

I'LL BE SURE TO PRESENT THOSE TO YOU. YEAH, ESPECIALLY WITH A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, MR. BAGGETT. DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED? JUST OBVIOUSLY WHEN IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS OR GET CONSENSUS OR YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THE SEVEN PROPOSED BY THE COMMITTEE, OR DO YOU WANT IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO. LET'S DO ALL SEVEN. I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR FOUR, BUT WE'LL DO ALL SEVEN.

THE SCREENING COMMITTEE PROVIDED US WITH SEVEN.

WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THEIR WORK PRODUCT. OKAY, THEN.

ALL RIGHT. UNLESS YOU REALLY HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN.

BUT THAT'S OKAY. WELL, PLEASE DON'T TELL US TO WHOM YOU NARROWED IT DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER ITEMS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ONLY FIVE AFTER SEVEN. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

BECAUSE WE HAD.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.