[ROLL CALL]
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          I'M CALLING THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE STUART CITY COMMISSION FOR THE 27TH OF MAY, 2025. TO ORDER. QUIET, PLEASE. QUIET, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL. MADAM. CLERK. MAYOR RICH HERE. 
          VICE MAYOR COLLINS HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE. COMMISSIONER. JOB HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER REID HERE. SO WE HAVE NO ONE TO PROVIDE THE INVOCATION, SO WE WILL JUST HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. PASTOR JAMES IS HERE NOW. HE JUST LEFT. OH. WE CAN DO THE PLEDGE. WE CAN DO THE PLEDGE. OKAY. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT MISTER PAUL MICHELETTI IS JOINING US ON THE DAIS. HE IS NOT THE REGULAR CITY ATTORNEY. 
          AND HE IS. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISTER MAYOR. NICE OF HIM TO FILL IN FOR MISTER BAGGETT 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
WHILE HE'S ON VACATION. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, PLEASE? APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR. YOU WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING ON THIS? YES. I WANTED TO PULL THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, JUST AS I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. I HAD A CORRECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO IT DURING THIS PROCESS. OR DO I JUST KNOW? OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR. IS THAT OKAY, COMMISSIONER CLARK? ITEM NUMBER ONE. APPROVAL OF 512 25 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. YES. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC REGARDING THIS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OKAY, SO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. OKAY. I JUST REQUESTING A CORRECTION. THE MINUTES OF THE FIVE 1225 MEETING. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. MY COMMENTS. IT STATED THERE WAS NOT ONLY ABOUT MR. CAMPANY THE. OH MY GOSH, I'M SORRY. I'M WAY OFF. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. OKAY OKAY. OH DID YOU NEED TO DO COMMENTS BEFORE I. YES OKAY. SO GO AHEAD I'LL THE AGENDA YET COMMENTS BY CITY 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]
COMMISSIONER. THERE WE GO. COME ON MR. MORTEL. WE'RE BACK ON THE MEETING. COMMISSIONER REID, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING? I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATS TO CHIEFS. AND IF I SAID YOUR LAST NAME. RIGHT. AND IF ALSO MIKE, THE CITY MANAGER, COULD JUST EXPLAIN IN THE CHARTER THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY UP TO THE BOARD PER SE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR CHARTER POSITION AND THAT IT'S ON YOU AS A CITY MANAGER WHEN IT COMES FOR APPLICANTS AND OPENING IT UP AND INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH HR, JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA AND MY PHONE HAS BEEN OBLITERATED AS WELL FROM IT. COMMISSIONER COLLINS I MEAN, COMMISSIONER REED WAS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE AND SLIDE MY FINGERS THOUGH, SO THAT'LL BE THE CHARTER GIVES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO HIRE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AND DIRECTS THAT THE CITY MANAGER SHALL HIRE THE OTHER DIRECTORS WITHIN THE CITY. 
          AND ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY ISSUES WITH THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS OR THE PROCESS THAT I WENT THROUGH, I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AS LONG AS IT TAKES AND GO OVER IT ALL. AND IT WAS A VERY LENGTHY PROCEEDING, AND I ALSO WAS PLANNING DURING MY COMMENTS TO CONGRATULATE LAMAR FOR HIS POSITION AS WELL. AND I WILL DO THAT SHORTLY. BUT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, WHILE THEY DO SET POLICY AND DO DISCUSS THINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, IT IS NOT A CITY COMMISSION DECISION. THEY DO NOT VOTE ON IT. AND I DON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I FIND A LOT OF IT TO BE INCORRECT AND AS A RESULT, I DON'T GO THERE. AND IT TURNS OUT IN THIS INSTANCE IT WAS INCORRECT AS WELL. AND THERE WAS NOT A POLITICAL FIX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT EITHER. SO THAT'S BACK TO ME AS WELL. I'D POINT OUT TO THE COMMISSION THAT I HAD THE EXACT SAME RESPONSE WHEN I APPOINTED DAVID DIAS AFTER AFTER CHIEF MORLEY RETIRED AND OF COURSE, THERE WASN'T AS 
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MUCH. YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HOO HA BECAUSE OF THE WE DIDN'T HAVE. YEAH. WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA AS DEVELOPED. BUT BUT THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY QUESTION WHEN JUST TO CLARIFY, THE COMMISSION MAY BE ADDING A THIRD EMPLOYEE UNDER THEIR DIRECT THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY DIRECTED THAT TO TAKE PLACE BACK IN SEPTEMBER OR ACTUALLY IT WAS I THINK IT WAS JUST AFTER THE ADOPTION OR THE FIRST YEAR. BUT BACK IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, THE COMMISSION DID DECIDE THAT IT WANTED TO ADD AN ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. THE CITY ATTORNEY RENDERED AN OPINION BACK THEN THAT THERE WAS, IN FACT, LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT AUTHORIZED THEM TO DO THAT ALREADY. AND AS A RESULT, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HIRING OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE DIRECT EMPLOYEES OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER JOB. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING? JUST BRIEFLY. I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW CHIEF, AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS PART OF AND VOLUNTEERS AND WHATNOT FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY PARADE THAT TOOK PLACE ON YESTERDAY. AND I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY. IT'S THE SHORTEST PARADE EVER, BUT IT EVERYONE CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED ALL OF OUR FALLEN HEROES AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER CLARK. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NINE THINGS TO SAY. OH, SO I HAD ONE, BUT ONE IS THREE NOW, SO. NUMBER ONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY MY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CONGRATULATE SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE RETIRING, BUT THANK CHIEF TUMINELLI AND HIS FAMILY AND ALL OF THOSE WHO SUPPORTED HIM, INCLUDING HIS STAFF AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND US AS A CITY FAMILY. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN TO CONGRATULATE MR. MORTEL IN TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION AND SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST FOR THE FUTURE FOR US TO HAVE. PLUMBERS AND L'EVEQUE BE OUR NEXT CHIEF. 
          SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND BECAUSE THESE GUYS ARE SO HIGH PROFILE, I'VE WORKED WITH MY CHURCH IN THE PAST MANY YEARS TO HAVE A LAW DAY IN THE FIRST PART OF MAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE IT THIS TIME, BUT ON JUNE 8TH THERE WILL BE A LAW AND JUSTICE DAY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT DAY. SAINT MONICA'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH, 800 CENTRAL AVENUE, 10 A.M. ONE HOUR SERVICE AND NO SECRET CHIEF TUMINELLI IS GOING TO BE IT FOR THE DAY. THE BALL IS GOING TO BE IN HIS COURT. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME AND WORSHIP WITH US AND FELLOWSHIP WITH US, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN IN THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY OR NEVER BEEN TO THAT CHURCH, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD TIME. I'M EXPECTED TO ASK OFFICER SHINE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THE COLORS PRESENTED, AND TO JUST REALLY CARRY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MEMORIAL DAY, TO JUST REMEMBER THOSE WHO SERVE US IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S IN THE PAST OR CURRENTLY AND SO LONG. JUSTICE DAY 10 A.M. AT SAINT MONICA'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH HONORING CHIEF TUMINELLI. AND WE DID THE SAME THING FOR SHERIFF SNYDER WHEN HE RETIRED. AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY GREAT FELLOWSHIP TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. 1A1 BE I CAN'T OH YEAH, ONE BE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I DIDN'T GET TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP OF THE MPO FOR THE TEN STREETS. AND I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANY SUMMARY OR ANYTHING. SO I'M HOPING THAT IN THE FUTURE I CAN HEAR FROM JODY OR SOMEBODY HOW THAT'S GOING WITH THIS. WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FOR THAT 10TH STREET WHEN PEOPLE CAME IN? I THINK IT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY. THEY CAME IN AND THEY GAVE SOME INPUT ON THE TRAFFIC CALMING AND JUST SAFETY ALONG THE 10TH STREET CORRIDOR THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO HOPEFULLY HEAR SOMETHING FROM STAFF AND EMAIL OR PHONE CALL IS FINE, BUT IF THERE'S A REPORT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT. 181 BE NUMBER ONE. LAST WEEK ON MAY THE 20TH, FLORIDA EMANCIPATION DAY WAS CELEBRATED AT SAINT PAUL AME CHURCH. THIS WAS A COMMUNITY EVENT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MEMBERS WHO COME OUT AND CELEBRATE, WHETHER THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR JUST ANYBODY, TO JUST LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND TO PARTICIPATE IN UNITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 
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ALL OUR BROTHERS KEEPERS AND WE'RE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER BETTER. 
          AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY GREAT EVENT. I REALLY, ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE OUR MAYOR, WHO WAS NOT AFRAID TO COME OUT AND SPEAK AND JUST FEEL A PART OF THAT GROUP AT SAINT PAUL. AMY, AT THE TIME, SAINT PAUL AM, IS AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH, AND IT WAS JUST A GREAT, GREAT AFTERNOON. IT'S ON MY FACE. I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON IT'S ON THEIR PAGE. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT EVENT, YOU CAN GO TO THE SAINT PAUL. AMY, THEY HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS BOARD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE SMALL SUPPORT FOR THAT ACTIVITY THAT EVENING. AND I APPRECIATE THE MISTER MARTEL, OUR CITY MANAGER, DID A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES, AND I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER CITIES AND COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA CELEBRATED FLORIDA EMANCIPATION DAY, AND IT'S ALL A PART OF THIS WHOLE TIME AND SEASON. MEMORIAL DAY, JULY 4TH, JUNETEENTH, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COMING UP AND IT'S JUST GOOD TO UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORY AND TO WORK WITH THAT. SO I WANT TO JUST THANK THIS BOARD FOR ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN AND FOR THE SUPPORT. OKAY. ON MARCH THE 30TH, THERE MAY, MAY THE 30TH. BUT I DO HAVE MARCH ON HERE. MAY THE 30TH. THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS OF ACTIVITIES ON MAY THE 30TH, BUT MOST FOR US HERE IS A PART OF THE ALMOST THE END OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. AND FOR THE MARTIN COUNTY CELEBRATING ITS 100TH YEAR OF BEING A COUNTY, THERE WILL BE THE STEWART THEN AND NOW COMMUNITY EVENT AT THE FLAGLER CENTER. I THINK IT'S FROM LIKE 6 TO 7:30 P.M. AND OR MAYBE 5 TO 7:30 P.M. I HAD THE THING ON MY PHONE, BUT I TOOK IT OFF. BUT 5 TO 8 5 TO 8 P.M. AT THE. IT'S GOING TO CONFLICT WITH A LOT OF THINGS MOVIE NIGHT AND FISH FRY AT SAINT MONICA'S, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE COME OUT, TRY TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PAST, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THE ARCHITECTS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF NOW IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THE VIBRANCY AND THE REDEVELOPMENT FROM MANY YEARS AGO BACK IN THE LATE 80S UNTIL NOW, THEY'LL BE THERE ON JUST DONNIE AND ELIZABETH PLATER-ZYBERK WILL BE THERE, AND LOTS OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL BE THERE. I'M JUST ASKING THAT EVERYBODY WHO CAN PLEASE GO OUT TO THE FLAGLER CENTER AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT. NUMBER TWO, ON JUNE 7TH, THERE WILL BE EVENT BY THE CLEVELAND CLINIC. IT'S IN ACTUALLY, IT'S JUNE 16TH FROM 6 TO 7:30 P.M. THE CLEVELAND CLINIC WILL BE HAVING AN EVENT CALLED NAVIGATING HEALTHCARE IN IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN IN PORT SALERNO. BUT IT'S FOR EVERYBODY IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND CLEVELAND CLINIC IS RIGHT HERE IN OUR MIDST. AND PEOPLE NEED TO GO OUT AND HEAR WHAT OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE SAYING. 6 TO 7. IT'S RIGHT ON COVE ROAD, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GREAT EVENT TO GIVE INPUT AND TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE FROM CLEVELAND CLINIC AND TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM. I HAVE BEEN I WAS NOT HERE ON MEMORIAL DAY, BUT I WENT TO THE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO THEIR CEREMONY AT THE NATIONAL CEMETERY IN THE LAKE WORTH LANTANA AREA, AND IT WAS A ABSOLUTELY GREAT CEREMONY. AND I'VE SEEN OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT CAUGHT MY EYE FROM GOING, I THINK, BEFORE AT THE SOLANO COLORED SCHOOL IN, IN PORT SALERNO. JUST SOME COMMENTS. I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WATCHES FACEBOOK AT TIMES, BUT COMMISSIONER CAPPS WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND I NOTICED OTHER COMMISSIONERS, TOO, WHETHER IT'S COMMISSIONER VARGAS OR OTHERS WHO'VE USED A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA, SOMETIMES JUST THEIR INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW THERE WAS A GREAT EVENT AT THE ALL SAINTS CHURCH, AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND I 
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WAS JUST ENCOURAGED BY SEEING, YOU KNOW, HOW INVOLVED COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE NEW TO THE COMMISSION, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT HAVE LIVED IN MARTIN COUNTY A LONG TIME, OR IN TRYING TO GET TO KNOW OTHERS AND TO AND TO GET OUT THERE, I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE STATUS OF MEMORIAL PARK IS, BUT I THINK WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT A LOT AT THE LAST MEETING WITH THE CRA. BUT WHEN IS THAT WORK GOING TO BE FINISHED, MR. MORTELL THREE MORE MONTHS. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS UNTIL JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. OH, NEXT YEAR? I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS JUNE. OKAY, SO IT'S NEXT YEAR SCHEDULE. IT'S JUST THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER 11 OR 13 MONTHS. OKAY, ALRIGHT. A LITTLE WHILE. OKAY. 
          AND YESTERDAY WAS MEMORIAL DAY AND I HAD PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO SOMETHING BIG IN SMITH TURNER PARK. I REMEMBER WHEN MR. IT'S A GOOD THING THAT HE'S HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE'S MILITARY AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO HELPED US GET THAT NAME FOR SMITH TURNER PARK WELL BUT AS ACTUALLY MY WIFE THAT WORK THAT YOU KNOW PAULA THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SO I'M THINKING AND SINCE YOU'RE ACTING AS THE LAWYER TODAY AND I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED THE, THE, THE COMMISSION'S FULL SUPPORT. FULL SUPPORT, BUT IT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT I WAS THINKING THAT I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE LIST BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO'S NOW ALIVE. I THINK THEY'RE 96 ABOUT DOING SOMETHING FOR THEM FOR PLAQUE. BUT I WAS THINKING, MR. NICOLETTI, ABOUT TALKING WITH THE VETERANS AND GETTING A LIST OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE TWO GUYS, SMITH AND TURNER. AND MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY TO KIND OF HAVE A WIDER COMMUNITY ACTIVITY, IF WE COULD TRY TO DEVELOP A WALL OF SOME KIND, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE KOREAN WAR AND OTHER THINGS, OR ESPECIALLY IN THE, IN THE EAST STEWART COMMUNITY OR, OR SO IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO, TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND DO SOMETHING AT SMITH TURNER PARK SO THAT THOSE FAMILIES CAN GO THERE. I KNOW THAT IN MEMORIAL PARK, WE HAVE THE LIST OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE SHIP THERE AT MEMORIAL PARK. BUT IF WE COULD LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT OVER THE YEARS, WE COULD DO A FEW HERE AND A FEW THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME INTEREST AND SOME ACTIVITY GOING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY, SOMEBODY ASKS, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SEPARATE AND EQUAL OR UNEQUAL, BUT IT'S JUST ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOME INCLUSIVE THINGS AND TO GET SOME RECOGNITION GOING. SO I'M GOING TO BE WORKING MORE ON THAT. SO YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT ME FROM THAT. NINE LAW AND JUSTICE DAY SIX SEVEN CLEVELAND CLINIC. 
          OKAY, JUNETEENTH IS COMING UP, AND THERE'LL BE AN ACTIVITY ON JUNE 19TH AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. AND I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THE REC 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, GO VISIT IT. LOOK AT THEIR MONTHLY AND THEIR WEEKLY FLIERS THAT THEY PUT OUT. 
          THEY ARE POPPING AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THERE, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, WE HAVE PROGRAMS, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER, IS ACTIVE, AND WE HAVE PROGRAMS THERE AT 10TH STREET. VISIT THEM, SUPPORT THEM, ATTEND THE ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. ALSO, WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL BE TALKING TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND MAYBE WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, BUT AT SOME POINT THERE'S A GROUP THAT I'M INVOLVED WITH AND I'M SAYING IT OUT LOUD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT I'M TRYING TO GET ANY SPECIAL FAVORS OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S CALLED THE DOCTOR LARRY HOWELL BOOK CLUB, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A LIBRARY AND DO MORE, BE MORE ACTIVE IN IN TEACHING CHILDREN HOW TO READ, HOW TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN READING SO THAT THEY'RE MORE VORACIOUS READERS AND THAT THEY CAN REALLY PARTICIPATE AND IMPROVE THEMSELVES AND IMPROVE THEIR CONFIDENCE LEVEL. SO WE'RE THINKING OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD USE THE 10TH STREET FOR THAT AND USE THE AUDIO VISUAL EQUIPMENT FOR THAT. 
          THERE'S ALSO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION, BUT IF YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT COMING UP, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. AND WE'LL BE TALKING WITH 10TH STREET AND, AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THAT CAN HAPPEN AND HOW WE CAN WORK TO SUPPORT THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY COMING OUT OF THAT THING. I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO WELCOME MR. NICOLETTI BECAUSE HE'S OUR THING. BUT I WANTED TO SAY THIS, 
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THAT I JUST WANT TO WELCOME ALL THESE GREEN FOLKS, ESPECIALLY MISS DIANE WOLFERT, WHO HAS BEEN A FRIEND OF MINE. AND SHE HAS SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO JOIN THE HELLS GATE. SO THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. THAT'S IT. I DID A T SHIRT. I DIDN'T DRINK DRINK TODAY. I WORE GREEN THE LAST TIME FOR MENTAL HEALTH OR SOMETHING, BUT I'M STILL ON MEMORIAL DAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. YOU SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. 
          I WANT TO WELCOME MY FELLOW ATTORNEY, MISS HOLMES, WHO I JUST MET RECENTLY. AND I JUST THANK YOU. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NOW THAT YOU'RE NOT IN THE HOT SEAT AFTERWARDS. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. HEY, CITY MANAGER, MR. VICE MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING? I HAVE NONE, YOU? DO? GOOD. YOU'RE GETTING TOO GOOD. I JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF COMMENT. AND THAT IS TO THANK COMMISSIONER CLARK FOR ORGANIZING EMANCIPATION DAY. AND THAT WAS HELD AT PASTOR JAMES CHURCH. AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A DAY OF GREAT SIGNIFICANCE. AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP. AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VERY WELL OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE AND FUN. AND THE LAST SPEAKER WAS COMMISSIONER CLARK. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE IT WAS VERY BRIEF. IT WAS A VERY BRIEF THING. WAS THE LAST FILIBUSTER OKAY. AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS, YES, HE WAS PULLED UP ON THREE TIMES. I THINK YOU HAD TO GO UP THERE. 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]
BUT OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, MR. MARTEL? I DO. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE CHIEF ZANELLA FOR BECOMING OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF. FOR THE PROCEDURALLY, IF WE HAD HIRED A NEW POLICE OFFICER, THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SWEARING IN CEREMONY. BUT HE'S ALREADY BEEN SWORN AS A POLICE OFFICER, SO THAT WON'T HAPPEN. TODAY. HOWEVER, WE WILL BE PLANNING A MORE FORMAL TRANSITION EVENT AND SWEARING IN EVENT THAT YOU WILL ALL BE INVITED TO ONCE WE GET ORGANIZED. WITH THAT, I'M GUESSING IT'LL BE ROUGHLY THE SECOND WEEK OF JUNE. AS FAR AS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE IS CONCERNED, ALL THE BILLS WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT HAVE NOT BEEN VETOED, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED EITHER. SO WE'RE STILL KIND OF IN LIMBO. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BE HERE AT OUR JUNE 9TH MEETING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THEY DO, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE VACANCIES WE HAVE WITH THEM AND HOW WE WOULD DESIRE TO FILL THOSE. LAST THURSDAY EVENING, WE HAD THE 10TH STREET TRAFFIC CALMING, AND SEVERAL OF THE NEIGHBORS FROM THE COMMUNITY CAME AND EXPRESSED OPINIONS AND CONCERNS AND IDEAS. 
          WE WILL BE ORGANIZING THOSE AND BRINGING THEM BACK TO YOU, HOPEFULLY ON JUNE 9TH, AT LEAST FOR JUST SOME SUMMARY. BUT AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE SCHEDULING A FORMAL FOLLOW UP MEETING. WE DID, IN FACT, HAVE THE MEMORIAL DAY PARADE YESTERDAY, WHICH WHICH WAS A SUCCESS. AND WHILE IT IS A SHORT PARADE, THERE'S IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE IMPACTED BY SERVICE IN THE ARMED FORCES AND WHETHER THEY WERE THERE TO MEMORIALIZE LOSS OF A RELATIVE OR A FRIEND, OR JUST TO SHOW THE RESPECT FOR THE LOSS OF THOSE THAT SERVED. IT'S QUITE MOVING AND, AND, AND NICE TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE COMMITTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO THE COMMUNITY. IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER CLARK'S COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THE SMITH TURNER PARK AND TO MAKING, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING OUR VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK IS ACTUALLY BETTER KNOWN AS VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK. BACK IN 1950 OR SO, A LADY ABUNDANCE THAT'S NOW IN CONFUSION CORNER WAS PUT IN MEMORIAL PARK, THEN WAS LATER REMOVED FROM MEMORIAL PARK IN 1991, AND I THINK IT WAS 60 AND 91 WHEN IT WAS PUT BACK IN ANY CIRCLE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO RISQUE TO BE IN ANY CIRCLE. BUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2011, THE CITY OF STUART. NO. IT'S NOVEMBER 11TH ON VETERANS DAY, THE CITY OF STUART. REDESIGNED AND REDEDICATED THE COMPREHENSIVE FOUR PHASE DESIGN OF MEMORIAL PARK, AND THE RENOVATION INCLUDED THE RELOCATION OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PANELS, THE ADDITION OF THE CEREMONIAL PLAZA WITH SIX FLAGPOLES REPRESENTING THE US MILITARY BRANCHES, THE MAN MADE LAKE WITH PAVILIONS IN THE WOODEN BRIDGE, A BIOSWALE 
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DESIGNED TO FILTER WATER BEFORE IT ENTERED INTO THE SAINT LUCIE ESTUARY. AND THEN IN 2021, THE HELIPAD CHAPTER OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ESTABLISHED THE NEVER FORGOTTEN GARDEN WITHIN THE MOORE MEMORIAL PARK. AND I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH THEM BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A SPRINKLER WREAKING HAVOC ON THEIR GARDEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIX. BUT THE GARDEN COMMEMORATES THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER, PROVIDING A SPACE FOR REFLECTION AND REMEMBRANCE. AND TODAY, MEMORIAL PARK SERVES AS A CENTRAL GATHERING PLACE IN THE CITY OF STUART, FEATURING MEMORIES OF AMENITIES SUCH AS THE BAND BANDSHELL, THE TENNIS COURTS, THE SHUFFLEBOARD COURTS, RACQUETBALL COURTS, PICNIC AREAS, PAVED PARKWAYS, ALL OF THE OTHER MEMORIAL ITEMS. I ADDRESSED THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CROSS TO THE BANK SO THAT THEY CAN PARK, AND WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER AN AMPHITHEATER THAT WILL ALSO BE A MORE CENTRALIZED AND MUCH GRANDER PRESENTATION FOR THE SPEAKERS DURING THE MEMORIAL DAY PRESENTATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO START PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AT WHICH PARK. AND I AGREE THAT SMITH TURNER HAS ITS OWN PURPOSE AND INTENTION, BUT MEMORIAL PARK HAS REALLY BEEN A COMMITMENT FOR I THINK SINCE THE IT ORIGINALLY WAS CALLED THE FOURTH STREET PARK AND ULTIMATELY BECAME VETERANS PARK BACK IN THE LATE 1930S. SO IT'S BEEN A COMMITMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS AND THOSE THAT SERVE FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS. JUST BRINGING THAT AS AN UPDATE. AND THEN LET ME JUST SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. TODAY. THERE WAS A MEMORIAL FOR DAVID FORD THAT WAS A LONG TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THE CITY OF STUART THAT WORKED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THE THERE WILL BE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR DAVE PETERS ON JUNE 6TH AT MARIA'S FROM 5 TO 8 P.M. IRONICALLY, ON THE EXACT SAME DAY THERE WILL BE A RETIREMENT FOR CHIEF TUMINELLI AND THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE FLAGLER CENTER. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S FROM 6 TO 9 P.M. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO MENTION THE MAY 30TH IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH FROM 5 TO 8 P.M. SAVING STUART THEN AND NOW IS GOING TO BE THE TOPIC OF THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER, WHICH IS ANDRE, DWAYNE, ANDRES DUANY. THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS, AND I KNOW THAT THE JACKIE LIPPISCH AND HER MOTHER ARE ALSO PARTICIPATING IN PRESENTING SOME OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF IT. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. JACKIE IS ACTUALLY MODERATING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE DID IT OUT OF ORDER, I, WE DID APPROVE THE AGENDA PULLING ITEM ONE FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SO WE HAVEN'T PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          [COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]
OH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS I HAVE ONE AUDRA CREEK. GOOD EVENING. AUDRA CREEK, 429 SOUTHWEST CAMDEN AVENUE IS WHERE I WORK. JUST SOME QUICK THINGS. 
          COMMISSIONERS, ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A WANTING TO FOSTER PEOPLE TO READ. THAT'S FANTASTIC. MARTIN READS IS A PART OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN MARTIN COUNTY. 
          YOU ONLY NEED TO BE A LEVEL ONE BACKGROUND CHECK TO VOLUNTEER AT A SUPERVISED LOCATION, AND THEREFORE YOU CAN BECOME A SUPERVISED LOCATION. HOPEFULLY THAT'S YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT. 
          FANTASTIC. SO THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON WHY I CAME UP. BUT SINCE I AM UP, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, I PARTICIPATED IN A5K FOR VETERANS WOUNDED RELIEF FUND OR WOUNDED VETERANS RELIEF FUND. I APOLOGIZE. IN JUPITER THIS PAST SATURDAY AND THEY HAVE A BENITA BLAST THAT'S COMING TO ON ON AUGUST 9TH TO THE TREASURE COAST. AND OF COURSE I'M BLANKING ON WHERE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE PIRATES, PIRATE'S COVE. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SIR. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PIRATE'S COVE IF YOU DO ENJOY FISHING. ADDITIONALLY, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A TRADITION TO TAKE A VETERAN THAT YOU KNOW CANNOT ALWAYS BE ON THE SEA AND DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO NECESSARILY HAVE A BOAT FOR YOU TO TAKE THAT VETERAN WITH YOU. IF YOU DO DECIDE TO PARTICIPATE, IT'S A LOT OF FUN, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY BRING CLOSE TO THE HEART. SO I FIGURED I WOULD JUST BRING IT UP SINCE IT IS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND OR JUST JUST ENDED. 
          AND FINALLY, I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF MAIN STREET, STUART MAIN STREET. AND WE HAVE OF COURSE, AS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, I WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW OF THE DETAILS. SO IT'S 
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GOING TO BE CELEBRATING PRESERVATION MONTH, SAVING STUART THEN AND NOW, TELLING THE STORY OF DOWNTOWN STUART'S REVITALIZATION. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT STUART JUST HAPPENED ORGANICALLY. WELL, NOT REALLY IN THE 80S, QUITE A FEW OF THE SMALLER DOWNTOWNS WERE SIGNIFICANTLY STRUGGLING, AND ONE OF THE ANSWERS TO DOWNTOWN ISSUES AT THE TIME, 1984 ISH, WAS THE MAIN STREET PROGRAMS. AND WE ARE ONE OF THE MATURE MAIN STREET PROGRAMS. I BELIEVE WE WERE STARTED IN 79, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE THE CITY THAT WE HAVE TODAY AS FAR AS THE DOWNTOWN AT LEAST, IS THE PROGRAM THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT VIA THE MAIN STREET FEDERAL, THE STATE GOVERNMENT VIA FLORIDA MAIN STREET, AND THEN FINALLY THE VARIOUS MAIN STREETS THAT WERE CREATED FOR THE FOR THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL CITY. SO WE JUST CAME OUT OF A QUARTERLY. CONFERENCE IN DELAND, FLORIDA, WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF OUR MATURE MAIN STREET PROGRAMS. SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CITY OF STUART, IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT GOT HERE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WISH TO MAINTAIN IS UP TO YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, PAULA NICOLETTI. 
          YOU'RE IN TROUBLE NOW. GOOD EVENING, MRS. NICOLETTI. GOOD EVENING. MY FIRST TIME, MANY YEARS. I WANTED TO THANK MIKE FOR MENTIONING ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK. I WANTED TO ADD THAT THERE ARE TWO ORIGINAL BRONZES IN MEMORIAL PARK. ALSO, THAT THE STUART ROTARY CLUB DONATED. ONE IS A FOR THE MALE MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY. AND IT'S A GENTLEMAN HOLDING A FLAG. AND THAT MAN WAS A WEST POINT GRADUATE THAT VOLUNTEERED TO BE THE PERSON TO MODEL THAT FOR THE ARTIST. YES. 
          ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE IS A WOMAN, A FEMALE OFFICER, WHO IS HOLDING A CHILD, AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE CHILD'S FACE BECAUSE IT COULD REPRESENT A COUNTRY, AN ACTUAL CHILD, A PERSON, THEIR FAMILY. BUT JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT THOSE TWO ORIGINAL PIECES ARE THERE. AND IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU MY THOUGHTS ON SMITH, TURNER, PARK, SMITH, TURNER PARK, I THINK WAS PEOPLE ASKED ME TO HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO HONOR TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED IN VIETNAM. IN MARTIN COUNTY, THERE WERE ONLY FIVE PEOPLE KILLED AND TWO WERE FROM OUR. STUART, I THINK YOUR IDEA IS A VERY KIND THOUGHT, BUT I THINK WE ARE ONE CITY, AND I THINK MEMORIAL PARK SHOULD BE THE PLACE FOR EVERYONE'S NAME. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE NO MORE. THANK YOU. SO. PULLING APPROVAL OF THE 
          [CONSENT CALENDAR]
MINUTES FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMISSIONER JOB NOW? NOW. I'M SORRY. NO. THAT'S FINE. THAT WAS MY ERROR. OKAY. JUST FOR CORRECTIONS OF THE MINUTES OF THE FIVE, 12, 25 MEETING AND MY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, MY COMMENTS WERE NOT CAMPANY. THAT IS WHAT WAS IN THE MINUTES I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT ON MR. CAMPANIS NOT SO FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR COLUMN, AND I USED IT AS A SEGUE TO AN ISSUE OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SEND LEGISLATORS TO TALLAHASSEE WHO HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AND WELFARE AT HEART, AND IT'S ON THEIR AGENDA. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING. AND I HAVE IT TYPED IF YOU NEED IT. THANK YOU. WHERE IS THE WHERE IS THE COMMENT THAT WE'RE REFERENCING ON IN THE MINUTES? I HAVE MINUTES PULLED UP IF YOU WANT ME TO READ. I MEAN, I HAVE IT. I THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING AT IT MYSELF, BUT THE COMMENTS MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT MR. TENPENNY. SO AS I SAID, SHE CAN READ IT. THE COMMENT THAT WAS WRITTEN AFTER THE MEETING HAPPENED WAS READ AN EMAIL RECEIVED FROM A CONCERNED RESIDENT WITH REGARD TO THE TOM CAMP PENNY COLUMN. SO WE'LL LOOK, WE'LL GO BACK INTO THE VIDEO AND WE'LL REITERATE WHAT WAS SAID. BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          SO LET'S START WITH THE MINUTES. SO WHAT IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IT. WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING OKAY THAT'S FINE. IS IT A CORRECTION. IT'S A CORRECTION. THAT'S ALL THAT CORRECTION OR I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT IS THE EXACT CORRECTION. 
          WHAT IS TO BE OR DO YOU WANT WE CAN BRING IT BACK. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR THE CORRECTION. 
          YOU COULD TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU'D LIKE US TO WRITE. IF. OKAY. I DIDN'T SEE IT WITH ME. 
          THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST. YOU KNOW, MY. ACTUALLY, YOU HAVE IT. IT'S RIGHT HERE. NO, THE REASON FOR HER AT THE BACKGROUND OF HER COMMENTS. KEEP IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND THEN I CAN I CAN HAVE 
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OKAY, I CAN GO BACK TOMORROW AND REDO THEM AND THEN BRING THEM BACK TO THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          COMMISSIONER JOB. YES. CORRECT. OKAY, OKAY. AND I'LL JUST EMAIL THAT TO YOU. FINE. SO THAT I CAN PUT IT. CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MR. MAYOR, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ITEM ONE. MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR. WHAT? I'VE GOT ONE LITTLE CORRECTION TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR. YES, IT'S A RESOLUTION 56 2025 ON LINE THREE. THERE'S A TYPO AND IT'S IN THE RESOLUTION TITLE, NOT JUST ON THE AGENDA, BUT ACTUALLY IN THE TITLE NEEDS TO BE FIXED. IT'S NOT ALL OT. IT'S ALL OF ALL OF LOTS. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION. OH I SEE IT. SO WE CAN MAKE WE CAN APPROVE THIS WITH THAT CORRECTION WITH THAT CORRECTION OKAY. DO YOU ALL SEE THAT. COMMISSIONER REED. YES. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE PROPOSAL TO SEND IN ADDITION, SOMETHING TO CORRECT THE MINUTES OF 512 AND TO CORRECT THE TITLE OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 56, 2025, AS DIRECTED BY THE STAFF. IT'S A TYPO. YEAH. WE'RE APPROVING TWO AND THREE NUMBER ONES COMING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. DID SHE INCLUDE ONE IN THERE? SHE DID. YES. WE SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE. SHE DID JUST TWO AND THREE. COMMISSIONER CLARK, WE'RE JUST GOING TO APPROVE TWO AND THREE TONIGHT. THAT MOTION FOR TWO AND THREE. JUST RESTATE IT. MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND THREE. AND THE CORRECTION OF THE TYPO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. THANK YOU. PERFECT. 
          SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. END OF THE CONSENT. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FORGIVE US FOR TAKING SIX MONTHS. YOU KNOW, I'M I'M HAPPY FOR YOU. NOW YOU CAN GET THAT SPLIT AND GET TO WORK. YES, SIR. 
          [4. NON-EXCLUSIVE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH HELL GATE SEA DRAGONS, INC. (RC): RESOLUTION No. 53-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND HELL GATE SEA DRAGONS, INC., A FLORIDA NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION, FOR THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 400 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY, STUART; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
MR. NICOLETTI, WILL YOU READ ITEM FOUR FOR OUR CONSIDERATION, PLEASE? WELL, THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 53, DASH 2025, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND HELLGATE SEA DRAGONS, INC, A FLORIDA NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION FOR THE USE OF CITY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 400 SOUTHWEST FLORIDA HIGHWAY, STUART, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, I WILL BE HANDLING THIS MATTER FIRST. I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON THE LAST AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. I WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT BEGINNING JULY 1ST, THE ADOPTION OF PLATS HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY BY THE STATE. SO THOSE WILL NOT BE COMING BEFORE YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED PERFUNCTORY. IN ANY EVENT, THE AGENDA ITEM WITH THE HELLGATE SEA DRAGONS, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THEM HERE. THE GREEN SHIRTS IN THE AUDIENCE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT, AS A ROWING CLUB AND THEY'VE BEEN ROWING FROM JACK LAYTON PARK, AND THEY GO SO FAR AS TO ROW FROM JACK LAYTON PARK ALL THE WAY TO MANATEE POCKET AND BACK. AND HONESTLY, I, I CAN BARELY TAKE A POWERBOAT THAT FAR. BUT THEY'VE APPROACHED US BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONSTRUCTION AT JACK LAYTON PARK, AND THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO STORE THEIR BOATS AND HAVE SOME MEETINGS, AND THEY APPROACHED THE CITY AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO STORE THEIR BOATS IN SHEPHERDS PARK RIGHT THERE, KIND OF BETWEEN THE MANGROVES AND THE BUILDING THAT USED TO BE DUFFY'S, WHERE DUFFY'S USED TO STORE THEIR TRAILERS. AND ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A HARDENED SURFACE OF SOME SORT THAT THEY WOULD PUT IN FOR THE TIRES TO NOT SINK INTO THE GROUND, OBVIOUSLY, AND MAYBE SOME KIND OF POST THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM HOOKING UP THEIR TRAILERS AND, AND DRIVING AWAY. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE OFFERED TO RE DO THE DECK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND FINISH THAT IN CONSIDERATION FOR US AGREEING TO LET THEM STORE THEIR TRAILERS THERE UNDER THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR A YEAR. AND I DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY RENT OR ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A NON-EXCLUSIVE LEASE, AND THEY WOULD ALSO BE AUTHORIZED TO USE THE CONFERENCE ROOM OR THE ESSENTIALLY THE PRIMARILY THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING ONE NIGHT A MONTH FOR THEIR BOARD MEETINGS FOR HOWEVER MANY HOURS IT IS FROM 5 TO 8 OR 6 TO 9. OR MAYBE IF THEY'RE LIKE US, FROM FOUR TO MIDNIGHT. BUT WHATEVER THEIR MEETINGS MIGHT TURN INTO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. AND IF THEY WERE EXPANDING IT, OR IF 
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IT WAS ACTUALLY ANY SUBSTANTIATED USE WHATSOEVER, WE COULD TALK ABOUT RENTING OR LEASING SPACE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT WAS SUCH A SUCH A LIGHT USE THAT I THOUGHT I WOULD COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT AS, AS KIND OF A TEST FOR IT. AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED MULTIPLE FIRDAPSE GRANTS FROM THE FLORIDA DEP TO DO THE BOAT RAMP, TO DO THE TRAILER PARKING, TO DO THE SWING SET, TO DO THE SEAWALL, TO DO THE, THE WHATEVER THE PLANTINGS ARE BEHIND THE SEAWALL THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR HIGH TIDES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND WITH ALL THOSE FIRDAPSE GRANTS COME SIGNIFICANT RESTRICTIONS TO THE USE OF THE PARK, AND IT MUST BE USED FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. 
          AND WE CANNOT USE THE FACILITIES FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. THAT IS, I CAN'T RENT THAT BUILDING TO A REALTOR BECAUSE IT HAS US ONE EXPOSURE AND CHARGE RENT FOR IT. I CAN ONLY USE THOSE FACILITIES FOR MATTERS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PARK. WHEN WE DID IT DOWN HERE IN FLAGLER PARK, WE INTENTIONALLY CARVED OUT WHAT WAS BACK THEN AS THE SNOOK NOOK OR WHAT WAS THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY BUILDING. THAT'S NOW HUDSON'S, WHICH IS WHY WE CAN USE HUDSON'S AS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. BUT WE WHEN WE DID DUFFY'S AND RENTED IT TO DUFFY'S. DUFFY'S WAS SUPPOSED TO RENT THEIR LITTLE ELECTRIC BOATS FROM THE PARK AND PROVIDE A SERVICE OF RENTING THEIR ELECTRIC BOATS, AND THEY JUST NOBODY EVER RENTED IT. IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. AND WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T RENEW THEIR LEASE AT THE END OF THE TERM. IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM AN EXCLUSIVE LEASE. I JUST MENTIONED IT TO THE BOARD AS TO WHY I'M NOT ACTIVELY MARKETING THAT FOR SOME COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE AND WANT TO SPEAK OR NOT, BUT THERE'S IT'S A IT'S A VERY ACTIVE GROUP OF PARTICIPANTS AND THEY HONOR CANCER SURVIVORS. AND IT'S EXTENSIVE ROWING CLUB. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT. THESE GUYS ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DO IT AND THEY WANT TO USE THE DECK OUT BACK FOR WHEN THEY RETURN FROM ROWING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE GATHERINGS, HAVE THEIR LUNCH OR A PICNIC OR BARBECUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, ONCE A MONTH, HAVE A MEETING IN THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE NON-INTRUSIVE. SO I RECOMMENDED THAT WE BRING IT FORWARD FOR YOUR APPROVAL. THERE IS NO TERMS TO A LICENSE AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE INSTEAD OF DRAFTING THE LICENSE AGREEMENT AND HAVE THE COMMISSION HAVE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD. AND THEN THE CONDITION OF THE RESOLUTION BE THAT THE LICENSE AGREEMENT BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MEET HIS AUTHORIZATION, BUT THE TERMS OF IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY THAT THEY WOULD REDO THE DECK IN EXCHANGE FOR THE USE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AND THAT THEY'D BE ALLOWED TO USE THE FACILITIES FOR THEIR BOARD MEETINGS, AND THAT IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE FACILITY, AND THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THE MINOR IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY TO STORE THOSE TRAILERS THERE, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. THEY MAY HAVE. THE PRESIDENT MAY WANT TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE COMMENTS IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. AND IS THERE AN INSURANCE REQUIREMENT ON THEIR PART? YES, THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. AND THEY HAVE INSURANCE ALREADY. I'VE ALREADY CONFIRMED THAT, SIR, IF YOU'LL JUST WAIT. THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, MR. MARTEL. MY THOUGHTS WERE AROUND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE CHARGING FOR THIS? IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE USE FOR NO CHARGE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT FOR A YEAR, AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE GO BEYOND THAT, THAT WE START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY CHARGING RENT. I THINK IT'S A FAIR EXCHANGE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING OUT SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE FOR ULTIMATELY PUBLIC BENEFIT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FRAZIER CREEK PAVILION THERE IN OUR CRA MEETING. AND NOT THAT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR. BUT IF IT WAS TO HAPPEN, IS THE NATURE OF THE LANGUAGE SOMETHING LIKE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE IT, BUT ARE NOT GUARANTEED THE RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT. IF FOR SOME REASON IT WOULD ALSO BE TERMINABLE, YOU COULD, THE COMMISSION COULD TERMINATE IT BECAUSE IT'S A LICENSE AGREEMENT. I CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE BACK IF FOR SOME REASON WE END UP WORKING ON THAT, RIGHT. IF THAT BECOMES A PRIORITY, THAT WAS IT. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK. NO. OH, OH, DID I HAVE MY. YES. NO. THAT'S OKAY, IT'S OKAY. COMMISSIONER, 
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DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO MAKE A MOTION? BUT THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE. WHY DON'T WE LET THE COMMISSIONER, MR. MARTEL, ANY QUESTIONS SHE MAY HAVE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? OKAY, I READ THROUGH IT, AND IF I MISSED OVER IT, JUST LET ME KNOW. I DIDN'T SEE A LIABILITY WAIVER IN THERE. THERE. THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE INSURANCE AND ALL OF IT IN IT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LICENSE AND A LEASE. AND THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE REALLY IS THAT A LICENSE IS THE CITY ALLOWING SOMEONE TO USE ITS PROPERTY FOR LIMITED PURPOSES, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. BUT IF THE INSURANCE IS THERE, THEN I THINK THE CITY WILL BE PROTECTED. OKAY. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. I MEAN, IF I COULD WATER IT'S DECKS, IT'S LOTS OF PEOPLE MIGHT FALL AND WELL, THEY CAN USE THE PROPERTY IN THE DECK NOW. YEAH, YEAH. JUST AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. OKAY. IT'S JUST THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THEY CAN'T LEAVE THEIR ROWBOATS, THE BOATS THERE, BUT THEY COULD GO TO THE PARK ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. NOW ANYBODY CAN GO THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH. SO I'M BACK AGAIN WITH THAT. SO? SO THERE'S NO STORAGE RIGHT THERE. STORAGE THERE IS THERE STORING. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING. OH YEAH I KNOW, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT'S I WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT YOU SAID IT WAS JUST THE MEETINGS. YEAH. THREE. OH IT'S 2 OR 3. YEAH. OKAY. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE YOU MIGHT, I MIGHT HAVE MISHEARD OR YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING. THEN THAT'S WHAT I READ. SO I JUST. ALL RIGHT THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT'S GOOD. CLEARED UP. IS THAT IT, COMMISSIONER CLARK, ARE WE GETTING FREE BOAT ROWING LESSONS? I'M SURE THEY TAKE YOU OUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. YEAH. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SO MOVED MOTION. OKAY. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ONE OF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD. THANK YOU ALL YOURSELF. DO WE TAKE SILLY PILLS TONIGHT? MY NAME IS BOB WOLFORD. I'M ON THE BOARD AND ONE OF SIX COACHES FOR THE TEAM. I SEE IT'S ACTUALLY YOUR ADDRESS, SIR. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? MY ADDRESS IS 4165 OAKBROOK CIRCLE. I'M IN JENSEN BEACH, OKAY. MARTIN COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF STUART OPPORTUNITY TO ENTERTAIN THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT. IN ADDITION, MANAGER MICHAEL MARTEL AND RAN CABO. SHE THEY THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ME TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THIS FOR OUR CLUB TO BE IN THE CITY OF STUART HELLGATE SEA DRAGONS. WE'RE FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING. 
          IT WAS FORMED USING THE NAME NAUTICAL POINT IN MARTIN COUNTY OFF OF SAND SPRINT PARK. IT'S CALLED HELLGATE. WE'RE NOT WE ARE NOT FOR PROFIT CLUB. WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEER ADULTS. SO WE SURVIVE ON FUNDRAISING AND DONATIONS TO KEEP US GOING. WE HAVE TWO PLATFORMS. WE HAVE A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR PLATFORM AND AN ADULT SENIOR MIXED TEAM THAT ALSO COMPETES THE BCS, WHICH IS THE BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR TEAM, COMPETES LOCAL, NATIONAL AND WORLDWIDE. WE'RE ALSO PROUD OF THE FUTURE OF THE BCS WOMEN. WE HAVE THREE QUALIFIED. JUST RECENTLY THIS PAST MONTH OF THE USA TEAM TO REPRESENT US IN USA, IN GERMANY THIS YEAR, IN JULY. IN ADDITION, HE HAS FORMED A COMPOSITE TEAM TO GO TO FRANCE. SO WE HAVE A COMPOSITE TEAM OF WOMEN IN OUR ORGANIZATION. IT'S GOING TO GO TO FRANCE IN 2026. ALSO. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NATIONALS IN SARASOTA. WE GOT OUR MIXED TEAMS GOING TO GO THERE AS WELL. WE ARE VERY, VERY ACTIVE. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST MARTIN COUNTY DRAGON BOAT CLUB, AND IF WE ESTABLISH A HOME BASE IN THE CITY OF STUART, IT WILL BE A PROUD MOMENT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THIS YEAR, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON ESTABLISHING A COMMUNITY YOUTH PROGRAM. NOW THAT'S HUGE. IT'S HUGE NATIONWIDE AND WORLDWIDE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE IT. A LOT OF THE DRAGON BOAT CLUBS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THEY DON'T HAVE IT VERY FAR AND FEW. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY FOUR CLUBS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT WE WANT IT. WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH IN THIS COMMUNITY TEAM. WE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT, THE CITY OF STUART GIVE OUR CLUB AND THE CITY OF STUART A HUGE BOOST AND EXPANDING OUR COMMUNITY 
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FOOTPRINT. WE PARTNER WITH FRIENDS IN PINK, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION, LOCAL ORGANIZATION THAT DEALS WITH PROVIDING FUNDS FOR BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS. WE WORK WITH MAKING STRIDES AMERICAN CANCER ASSOCIATION, ALSO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. WE COLLECT TOYS DURING THE DECEMBER MONTH FOR THE HOLIDAYS. WE ALSO WORK WITH BLUE LINE WATERWAY CLEANUP. WE PARTICIPATED A COUPLE TIMES DOWN THERE ON THE SOUTH END OF MARTIN COUNTY, AND WE'RE ALSO SCHEDULED WITH TC WATERWAY CLEANUP, WHICH IS THE MARINE INDUSTRIAL ASSOCIATION OF MARTIN COUNTY. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THEIR JULY CLEANUP, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT PARK. IF I MAY CONTINUE, ONLY TAKE ME A FEW SECONDS OR YOU WANT ME TO. OH, YOU COULD CONTINUE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ALSO WORK WITH ELEVATE HOPE IN MARTIN COUNTY, PROVIDING FUNDS JUST RECENTLY FOR THE TORNADOES. 
          SO WE DO A LOT OF CONTRIBUTION. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A LONG JOURNEY WITH THE CITY OF STUART. 
          NOT SURE. WE ARE NOT OVERLY FUNDED, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, POSSIBLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE. A YEAR, A LEASE ON SOME OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THAT BUILDING. BUT IF WE CAN AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARK OUR BOATS AND TRAILERS THERE, MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS AND HELP THE CITY GROW, THAT'S OUR GOAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO WELL, ACTUALLY. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT JUST HOLD ON, SIR. OH, THE QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. OH, JUST LET ME ASK. SO HOW BIG A FOOTPRINT WILL YOU HAVE FOR THE TRAILERS AND BOATS? RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 50FT BY 50FT FEET LOCATION TO KEEP THOSE TRAILER BOATS. SO IT'S NOT LARGE. WE CARRY ENOUGH TO IDENTIFY IT. IF YOU'RE ON US ONE LOOKING AT WHAT'S USED TO BE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUILDING OR THE DUFFY'S BUILDING, IT'S BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE MANGROVES. RIGHT THERE IT WAS WHERE DUFFY BOATS USED TO KEEP THEIR TRAILERS ALREADY. OKAY. DO YOU WORRY ABOUT IS IT BEHIND A FENCE? DO YOU WORRY ABOUT VANDALISM OR. NO. CURRENTLY WE KEEP OUR BOATS AND OUR EQUIPMENT FOR THAT. FOR THE BOATS AT THE PALM CITY CIVIC CENTER. IT'S WIDE OPEN, NO FENCES. AND YEAH, THE KIDS COME BY AND SOMETIMES THEY, YOU KNOW, TOMFOOLERY PLAY WITH IT. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS WE DON'T GENERALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. NO, NO IT'S. YEAH. SO YOU POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE REGIONAL NATIONAL AND MAYBE INTERNATIONAL. I ASSUME YOUR EVENTS ARE CALLED REGATTAS. WELL THEY'RE DRAGON BOAT RACES. AND LIKE I SAID THEY'RE WORLDWIDE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF RECOGNITION. BRING THOSE EVENTS INTO THE CITY. RIGHT. WELL POTENTIALLY POTENTIALLY YEAH. IF WE COULD IF WE GREW THAT FAST. 
          BUT IT TAKES TIME. IT REALLY TAKES TIME. YOU GOT CLUBS THAT 1520 YEARS IN AND THEY FINALLY SET UP A REGATTA WHICH IS ACTUALLY A DRAGON BOAT RACE. THE VENUE IS THE ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EQUIPMENT, THE LOCATION AND WORKING OUT THE LOGISTICS WITH THE TOWN AND CITY. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY EXIST IF THAT DOES HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. MARTIN COUNTY TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL WILL, YOU KNOW, SPONSOR EVENTS AND HELP REIMBURSE JUST AS A RESOURCE FOR YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE OF YOU GUYS PUTTING HEADS IN BEDS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO MARTIN COUNTY AS PART OF AN EVENT, JUST JUST AS A FUTURE RESOURCE AS THAT EVOLVES. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. TOURISM DEVELOPMENT. AND HER NAME IS NERISSA. HEADS THAT UP. YEP. I SEE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TAKING NOTES. ABSOLUTELY. COPIOUS NOTES. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOB. MY QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER. THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THE PUBLIC USING THIS SPACE. NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. OKAY? I MEAN, I TAKE THAT BACK DURING THEIR MEETING FROM 6 TO 8 ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO IN AND SIT AT THEIR MEETING. IT WOULD BE THEIR CLUB'S PRIVATE TIME MEETING. BUT ANYBODY ELSE ON ANY OTHER GIVEN TIME COULD GO SIT ON THAT DECK AND HAVE LUNCH OR WHATEVER. UNDER THE FIRST GRANT. IT'S GOT TO BE A RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY AND PART OF THE PARK. SO NO DIFFERENT THAN THE GAZEBO FOR SOMEBODY'S BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MAYOR, I HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. GAIL. GOLDIE. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. GAIL GOLDIE 1153 NORTHWEST 12TH TERRACE. AND STUART, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS SUPPORTING THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THE CITY. I JUST HOPE THAT IT CAN GET CAN BRING IN ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED. I'D LOVE TO SEE IT GROW AND REALLY BE A 
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VIABLE RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND DO THEIR ROWING, AND I HOPE THE ROWING COMMUNITY OPENS THEM WITH WELCOME ARMS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS GOLDIE. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SELBY. YES, COMMISSIONER REED. 
          YES, VICE CHAIR. COLLINS. YES. MAYOR. RICH. YES. AND COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK. MR. NICOLETTI, WILL YOU READ ITEM FIVE FOR 
          [5. APPOINTMENT OF RUTH HOLMES AS ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY AND AUTHORIZATION OF EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 54-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT OF RUTH HOLMES AS ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY AND AUTHORIZING AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
CONSIDERATION, PLEASE? THIS IS RESOLUTION 54 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT OF RUTH HOLMES AS ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY AND AUTHORIZING AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR THE PURPOSES. ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WERE PROVIDED COPIES OF THE CONTRACT MOMENT A FEW MOMENTS AGO. WE WISH TO MAKE ANY CLARIFYING COMMENTS WITH REGARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ANY COMMENTS. I OBVIOUSLY DID SOME WORK WITH MR. BAGGETT ON IT, BUT PRIMARILY IT WAS HANDLED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MISS HOLMES DIRECTLY. SO I DON'T I THINK PAUL MAY BE BETTER SUITED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT I AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE READ THROUGH THE AGREEMENT. IT IS PRETTY TYPICAL OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY POSITION PROVIDES FOR. IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OF WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION PROVIDES FOR. IT DOES CALL FOR AN ANNUAL BASE SALARY OF $175,000. IT IT DOES ALLOW FOR TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT WITH A NOTICE OF 14 DAYS ON THE CITY'S PART. IT DOES PROVIDE FOR 45 DAY NOTICE FROM THE ATTORNEY IF SHE DECIDES TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT, IT PROVIDES FOR 80 HOURS OF PAID TIME OFF AND OR LEAVE BANK UPON EMPLOYMENT. THAT'S ALSO FAIRLY TYPICAL, AND IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THE PAYMENT OF MISS HOLMES DUES TO THE FLORIDA BAR AND THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS APPROVED IN YOUR BUDGET AND DURING THE PERIOD OF EMPLOYMENT. IT ALLOWS HER TO HAVE MINOR NON-CONFLICTING ASSIGNMENTS AND REPRESENTATIONS, SO LONG AS IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH HER FULL TIME JOB. COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YES, PEOPLE HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THAT ITEM SOMETIMES. YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S IT HAS WAS IN MIND FOR SINCE 20. OH OR OH FIVE. IT'S, IT'S BEEN IN THE MANAGER'S. YEAH. IT, IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. AND MISS HOLMES IS HERE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER, BUT I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO HER ABOUT THIS AND SHE REPRESENTS THE PALMAR PROPERTY OR THE BOARD THAT MANAGES THAT LARGE LAND. A PERSONALLY, I THINK THE CITY BENEFITS FROM HER CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN THAT REPRESENTATION BECAUSE OF THE IT'S AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE EVERGLADES. IT'S A HUGE PIECE OF LAND RELATED TO THE WATER SYSTEMS OF FLORIDA. THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITHIN IT ARE THE HAVE THE EXACT SAME INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE AS IT RELATES TO POLLUTION AND MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY IN SUCH A WAY. AND I THINK IT ACTUALLY GIVES HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN CIRCLES WITH FOLKS THAT JUST BEING AT THE CITY MIGHT NOT EVEN PUT HER IN, BUT BEING IN THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE WOULD ACTUALLY PLACE HER IN MEETINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO GET HER IN THAT WOULD BENEFIT US, AND THAT WOULD GAIN INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE ONLY SPECIFIC THING, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN SHE AND I DISCUSSED IT, I PERSONALLY LOOKED AT IT AS KIND OF A BONUS TO THE CITY IF SHE COULD CONTINUE SERVING THERE. AND I DIDN'T SAY I AGREE. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. AND MY ONLY THING IS THAT SHE IS OUR DIRECTOR, EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE, AND I BELIEVE WE INSERTED THIS INTO YOUR CONTRACT. MR. MORTEL, IS THAT YOU REPORT ON A IS IT SEMIANNUAL BASIS? IF YOU RECEIVE IN THAT CAPACITY, YOU HAVE TO FILE IT WITH THE HR DIRECTOR OR REPORT IT. RIGHT. SHE DOES I DON'T IT'S SO I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMPENSATION. BUT I HAD SOME OLD CLIENTS THAT I WAS WRAPPING STUFF UP FROM. SO I REPORTED THE NAMES OF THOSE AND HAD IT THAT I WAS DOING IT. IT DIDN'T INTERFERE WITH MY JOB. I DIDN'T DO THAT. BUT SHE WOULD. WE'RE 
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NOT TRYING TO CATCH YOU. WE'RE JUST SHE WOULD HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DIDN'T GET ANY MONEY. BECAUSE TOMORROW ON FACEBOOK, IT'LL BE SAYING, I GOT ALL THIS MONEY, RIGHT? BUT THE IN HER INSTANCE, I MEAN, I, I KNOW OF THAT PARTICULAR THING. I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE SHE REPRESENTS OR WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON. BUT I ALSO KNOW AND THE REASON THAT IT WAS IN PLACE AND THE REASON THAT IT WAS IN MINE, IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN PRIVATE PRACTICE, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST LEAVE THEM HIGH AND DRY. SO IF WE WANTED TO SEPARATE THAT, WE MIGHT SAY, GREAT. CAN YOU START IN 2026? BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T BE NEARLY ABLE TO REP THOSE CLIENTS UP IN THAT TIME. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, SHE COULDN'T JUST NOT TAKE ON NEW CLIENTS UNTIL SHE STARTED WITH US. SO THERE'S LIKE THIS GAP TIME. NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT AT ALL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SHE'S ACTING IN A LEGAL CAPACITY WITH OTHER YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, THERE'S A CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUE AS WELL. IF THERE'S IF IT'S A PUBLIC ENTITY, THEN IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. BUT IF THEY'RE PRIVATE CLIENTS, THEN IT IS, RIGHT. I MEAN, IF SHE COULD SAY I REPRESENT TWO PRIVATE CLIENTS, AND LAST MONTH I SPENT AN HOUR ON IT OR TWO HOURS, BUT BUT BUT YOU CAN'T OBVIOUSLY DISCLOSE WHO THE CLIENTS ARE, WHAT THE MATTERS WERE. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO TREAT HER AS A PROFESSIONAL JUST THE WAY YOU TREAT MIKE AND TREATED ME, I DON'T I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A CONFLICT, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR THE ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE BOARD. AND IT'S UP TO THE ATTORNEY THAT YOU'RE HIRING TO DISCLOSE THAT KIND OF CONFLICT. SO I THINK I THINK YOU'RE GOOD OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. NICOLETTI OR MR. MORTEL WITH REGARD TO THIS? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION. 
          COMMISSIONER REED, NUMBER FOUR FOR THE PROFESSIONAL FEES. IS THAT LIKE A YEARLY BASIS FOR THE FLORIDA BAR? IT IS. WHAT'S IT COST JUST FOR? IT'S I THINK IT'S 300 IN THE 3 TO $400 RANGE. 
          RIGHT. MR. VICE MAYOR, ARE YOU GOOD? YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 54 2025. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. BEFORE WE VOTE, CAN WE HEAR THE VOICE OF MISS HOLMES? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? HOW ABOUT IF WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN ASK MISS HOLMES TO COME UP? MAYOR, I HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OKAY, MISS. WAIT ONE SECOND, MR. BRECHBILL. OKAY. MY ONLY QUESTION IS REGARDING. ACTUALLY, THE LAST DISCUSSION WAS A CONCERN I HAD BEFORE IS EXACTLY WHO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTROL WORK PRODUCT? WHO'S WORK PRODUCT IS IT? IF WE GET INVOLVED AND JOIN ANOTHER CASE, YOU KNOW, OR SHE'S INVOLVED WITH ANOTHER CASE, DO WE KEEP HER WORK PRODUCT OR IS THERE A PROVISION IN HERE FOR THAT TYPE OF IF SHE HAS ANOTHER CLIENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO IT AT ALL. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF HER EMPLOYMENT, AND SHE CAN'T INTERFERE WITH HER REPRESENTATION AT THE CITY BY HANDLING IT. YEAH, BUT IF SHE'S REPRESENTING US, HOWEVER, SHE IS A CITY EMPLOYEE THEN. THEN ALL OF HER WORK PRODUCT IS THE CITY'S. EVEN IF SHE'S JOINING ANOTHER CASE WITH ANOTHER WHERE SHE MAY BE EXPOSED TO OTHER INFORMATION THAT THE CITY OF STUART DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE. IF IT'S A PRIVATE CLIENT, THEN THEN IT'S GOING TO REMAIN PRIVATE. IF IT'S IF IT'S THE CITY OR ANOTHER PUBLIC CLIENT, LIKE THE PALMAR, THEY'RE THEY HAVE THE SAME RULES THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW AS FAR AS PUBLIC RECORDS AND OPEN MEETINGS. AND SO ALL OF THAT'S OF PUBLIC RECORD EXCEPT FOR EXCEPTION. 
          YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MISS HOLMES. GOOD EVENING. FIRST, I JUST WANT TO TELL EACH OF YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN ME AND TAKING THIS ON. I KNOW THAT IF THIS WERE AN EASY TASK, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF ME. I WILL SAY THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT MEETING EACH ONE OF YOU. I GUESS IT WAS OVER A MONTH AGO NOW. SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPRESSED UPON ME, WHETHER YOU INTENDED TO DO IT OR NOT, WAS 
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THAT I REALLY SAW THE COMMITMENT IN EACH OF YOU FOR THE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF STUART AND PRIMARILY THE HEALTH OF THE RIVER AND THE ESTUARY. 
          AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. IT'S I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT A CITY COMMISSION OR ANYBODY ON THE EAST COAST FLORIDA CAN DO RIGHT NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE RIVER AND ESTUARY AS, AS YOU KNOW, AND AS MR. STUCKEY HAS SAID OVER AND OVER, IT IS IT IS THE JEWEL OF THE TREASURE COAST, IF NOT THE ENTIRE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA. SO THIS IS THIS IS QUITE AN HONOR FOR ME AS WELL TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS. WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO TRIED TO LET EACH ONE OF YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO YOU THAT I CAN'T DO IT ALONE. I'M JUST A LAWYER. 
          I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M JUST ONE PERSON AND I THEREFORE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF. I'M QUITE IMPRESSED WITH. I MET WITH MR. MORTEL FOR OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF. HIS KNOWLEDGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, HIS KNOWLEDGE OF LEGAL ISSUES, OF COURSE, AND LITIGATION FAR SURPASSED ANYTHING THAT I WAS ANTICIPATING. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOUR UNIQUELY ENGAGED COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND WITH THAT SAID, I BELIEVE THAT I START SOMETIME IN AUGUST. THAT COULD CHANGE. IT COULD BE PRIOR TO THAT JUST DEPENDS. I DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS I HAVE TO WRAP UP AT MY FIRM, AND I WILL WORK WITH MR. MORTEL AND YOUR TOUGH NEGOTIATOR, MR. BAGGETT, AND WHATEVER IT TAKES. THANK YOU. I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT MISS HOLMES HAS EXECUTED THE AGREEMENT. IT DOES CALL FOR HER TO BEGIN ON AUGUST 11TH, 2025. AND SO IF YOU FIND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME EARLY, WE MAY NEED TO AMEND THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR. YES. VICE CHAIR. 
          COLLINS. YES. MAYOR. COLLINS. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. COMMISSIONER. J.O.B. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. WELCOME ABOARD. CONGRATULATIONS. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I WILL BE SIGNING IT, MISS HOLMES. CONGRATULATIONS. MR. NICOLETTI, WILL YOU READ ITEM SIX FOR OUR 
          [6. CRB APPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM LAUGHLIN (RC): RESOLUTION No. 58-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RATIFYING THE ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENT OF A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD MEMBER, FULFILLING THE VACANCY ON THE BOARD FOR THE REMAINING CURRENT TERM FROM PRESENT TO DECEMBER 31, 2025; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]
CONSIDERATION, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 58, DASH 2025, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART. RATIFYING THE ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENT OF A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD MEMBER, FULFILLING THE VACANCY ON THE BOARD FOR THE REMAINING CURRENT TERM FROM THE PRESENT TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR THE PURPOSES. I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR APPOINTMENT. MR. THIS IS THIS IS A RATIFICATION OF WILLIAM LAUGHLIN ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER COLLINS TO WHO HAS RECOMMENDED HIM TO SERVE AS COMMISSIONER COLLINS'S APPOINTMENT TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF THE CRB OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S FILLED OUT ALL THE FORMS OF THE CLERK AND THAT HE MEETS THE CRITERIA TO SERVE. THAT IS, HE'S BEEN A RESIDENT OF STUART FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. HE LIVES IN THE CITY OF STUART AND OTHERWISE MEETS THE BYLAWS. OKAY, OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 58 2025, MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOB. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I SAW MR. LAUGHLIN I REMEMBER HIM FROM. IS MR. LAUGHLIN HERE? NO HE'S NOT. HE WAS HERE EARLIER. NO, HE WASN'T HERE. NO, HE WAS HERE. HE WASN'T. HE WAS HERE EARLIER. DIDN'T SEE HIM. HE'S JUST IN YOUR NIGHTMARES BECAUSE HE RAN AGAINST YOU? YEAH. HE WAS IN MY NIGHTMARES. THAT'S RIGHT. HE'S NOT HERE. HE'S ALWAYS EVERYWHERE. AND HE'LL BE HERE SOON. HE'S ALWAYS HERE. OKAY. SEEING NONE. NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES. 
          VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES, MAYOR. RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. SELBY. YES. OKAY. 
          [7. DISCUSSION REGARDING CITY ACTION PERTAINING TO THE HOMELESS]
ITEM SEVEN. DISCUSSION REGARDING CITY ACTION PERTAINING TO THE HOMELESS. THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM. COMMISSIONER JOB. I WILL I WILL HAND IT OVER TO HER NOW. OKAY. THE HOMELESS ISSUE. 
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GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED. OH, SORRY. GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED HB 1365 TO KEEP FLORIDA'S STREETS SAFE. THIS LEGISLATION REQUIRES COUNTIES TO ENSURE THAT THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH AND DRUG ADDICTION SERVICES THEY NEED WHILE RESIDING IN A DESIGNATED LOCATION OFF OUR PUBLIC STREETS, PRIORITIZING PUBLIC SAFETY. HB 1365 ALSO PROVIDES ALTERNATIVES FOR WHEN HOMELESS SHELTERS HAVE REACHED THEIR MAXIMUM. IT DIRECTS THE DEPARTMENT OF CITY AND FAMILIES TO AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY CAMPSITES TO DO THAT. MAINTAIN SANITATION, INCLUDING ACCESS TO CLEAN AND PORTABLE OPERABLE RESTROOMS AND RUNNING WATER. PROVIDE ACCESS TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENTS RESOURCES THROUGH COORDINATION WITH REGIONAL AND MANAGING ENTITIES. PROHIBIT ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE USE AND ALCOHOL WHILE ON THESE PROPERTIES AND ENFORCE THIS PROHIBITION. WHAT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR, HOWEVER, IS WHERE, HOW, WHERE AND THE MONIES TO FUND THESE ALTERNATIVES. THE COUNTY HAS A HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT THAT TRIES TO PLACE AS MANY HOMELESS AS POSSIBLE, BUT THE RESOURCES ARE LIMITED. I CERTAINLY REALIZE THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO BUILD OR PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS, BUT THERE ARE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ON THAT ON THEIR OWN, PROVIDE SERVICES TO AND FOR THE HOMELESS. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNTY WAYS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A CENTRAL POINT FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK TOGETHER IN HELPING THE HOMELESS. POOLED RESOURCES CAN REACH A LARGER AUDIENCE AND MAKE THE COUNTY CONSTITUENTS AWARE HOW THEY CAN ASSIST THEIR LOCAL CHURCH, SYNAGOGUE, AND ORGANIZATIONS TO JOIN FORCES TO COMBAT THIS THIS ISSUE. I'M SORRY, I'M STRUGGLING WITH BRONCHITIS. I BRING THIS UP TODAY SO THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. WELL, IT'S NOT, WHICH WILL NOT GO AWAY OVERNIGHT. SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS. PROBABLY A LETTER THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT SIGN THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY TO SAY THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS JOINT EFFORT TO HELP ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP THE HOMELESS. I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT OURSELVES, BUT THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO HAVE MONEY. THEY ARE NOT FOR PROFITS, THEIR CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES. AND MAYBE IF THEY HAD A CENTRAL POINT IN THE COUNTY OR IN THE CITY THAT THEY COULD GO TO AND POOL THEIR RESERVES AND MAYBE HELP A WIDER RANGE OF HOMELESS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ASKING THE COUNTY TO GIVE MONEY TOWARDS THESE. WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? WELL, I'M ASKING FOR THEM TO HAVE A CENTRAL PERSON, LIKE SOMEONE IN HUMAN RESOURCE OR HUMAN SERVICES, WHERE IT HAS A LIST OF THOSE COUNT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO HELP THE HOMELESS. THERE'S A TENT CITY, THERE'S MANY CHURCHES. THERE'S PASTOR GUY. I SPOKE TO HIM BEFORE HE WENT ON VACATION. I JUST THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE OUT THERE KIND OF MANEUVERING ON THEIR OWN, AND IT'D BE NICE FOR THEM TO HAVE A CENTRAL POINT AND A AND A PLACE THAT THEY FEEL IN THE COUNTY THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN KEEPING THEM ALL TOGETHER TO DO THEIR JOB BETTER. HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE CURRENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS? I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I WOULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT REALLY SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO GO TO THEM AS WELL, JUST TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT RESOURCES THEY HAVE. AND MARTIN COUNTY HAS. THE MARTIN COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES PROVIDES EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND SUPPORTIVE RESOURCES FOR THE MARTIN COUNTY COMMUNITY, WITH THE GOAL OF PROMOTING A GREATER QUALITY OF LIFE. THE MISSION IS TO ENHANCE THE WELL-BEING OF MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS BY OFFERING INFORMATION, REFERRALS, RESOURCES AND SERVICES THAT ADDRESS A WIDE RANGE OF NEEDS. 
          THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, IT STRIVES TO SUPPORT LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY. CORE VALUES OF COMPASSION, INTEGRITY, RELIABILITY AND COLLABORATION. 
          SERVICES INCLUDE COURT PROGRAMS, DRUG PROGRAMS, CREMATION AND BURIAL ASSISTANCE, EMERGENCY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS, OVERDUE RENT, ELECTRIC BILLS AND WATER BILLS, EMERGENCY PRESCRIPTION ASSISTANCE, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. HOMELESSNESS ASSISTANCE, INCLUDING SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND OPIOID AWARENESS, AS WELL AS THEIR 211 HELPLINE THAT CONNECTS THEM TO CONNECTS THE CALLER TO THE PALM BEACH AND TREASURE COAST EMERGENCY LINE FOR ACCESS TO FORECLOSURE PREVENTION, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, FOOD ASSISTANCE, COMMUNITY SERVICES, PARENTING RESOURCES, SENIOR SERVICES, AS WELL AS OTHER RESOURCES. BUT THAT'S THAT'S A COUNTY PROGRAM RIGHT NOW FOR INDIVIDUALS. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE ANY INDIVIDUAL CAN CALL TO GET THAT HELP OR GET THAT INFORMATION. 
          THIS IS A COMMUNITY. THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY ARE A LITTLE THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY VERY TRUSTING. SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS IN TALKING TO THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE DEVELOPED A TRUST WITH A LOT OF THESE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. AND SO, AGAIN, I'VE SPOKEN TO 
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SOMEONE IN HUMAN SERVICES, BUT I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THE TO THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I WANTED TO KIND OF A SENSE OF WHERE EVERYONE HERE FEELS ABOUT THIS. I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE COUNTY TO GIVE MONEY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR US TO GIVE MONEY. I'M ASKING FOR A CENTRAL PLACE THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP THE HOMELESS CAN CAN REACH OUT TO SOMEONE IN THE COUNTY THAT COULD BE ABLE TO DIRECT THEM, AND WHAT'S REALLY WORKS BEST FOR THEM. JUST BEFORE WE GET TO THE MIKE, MR. MARDELL, WHAT HAS BEEN THE CITY'S SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO 1365 THE AMENDMENT TO 1365 THAT REALLY CAME FORWARD WAS MORE RESTRICTIVE IN NATURE. AND WHAT IT SAID WAS THAT ANY RESIDENT OR BUSINESS OWNER IN ANY COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY, COULD FILE SUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY IF THEY WERE NOT ENFORCING THE STATE LAW THAT PROHIBITS CAMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, SUCH AS CITY RIGHT OF WAYS, CITY PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE CITY OF STUART ALREADY HAD ALL OF ITS PARKS CLOSED AT AT DUSK EVERY NIGHT, SO OUR LAWS ALREADY HAD THE PARKS CLOSING. 
          SO WE DIDN'T ALLOW. AND WE HAD IN OUR CODE REGULATIONS THAT ALREADY PREVENTED PEOPLE FROM CAMPING OR LIVING IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR IN PARKS THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE ENFORCE IT, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN WHERE OUR POLICE GO SHAKE PEOPLE DOWN OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT SINCE THE LAW PASSED IN 2024, WE'VE INTEGRATED ADDITIONAL POLICIES. 
          AND I KNOW I WAS TALKING TO THE NEW CHIEF TODAY, AND HE HAS HE'S FORMULATING A LIST OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE'VE SERVED, WHO THEY ARE, AND WE CAN IDENTIFY WHO THE HOMELESS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY SO FAR. BUT BUT THE WHAT WE ADOPTED AT THE LAST MEETING, AT THE SECOND READING WAS JUST AN APPELLATE PROCESS, SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WAS TRESPASSED FROM A PARK OR A PUBLIC SPACE, THEY HAD REDRESS OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THE CITY TO SAY THAT THEY WERE WRONGFULLY TREATED OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. OUR CODE ALREADY HAD THE LANGUAGE SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE STATE LAW. NOW IT'S A MATTER OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE MEETING THE STATE LAW, WHEREAS BEFORE AN OFFICER MIGHT SEE SOMEBODY IN SHEPHERD'S PARK AND THAT HAD STARTED ACCUMULATING THEIR PERSONAL STUFF SOMEWHERE, AND THEY MIGHT SAY, HEY, YOU GOT TO GET THAT STUFF AND MOVE IT ALONG. NOW WE ACTUALLY DOCUMENT IT, DOCUMENT THE TIME, THE PLACE. THEY GO BACK THE NEXT DAY TO VERIFY THAT THEY'VE MOVED THE STUFF, DOCUMENT THAT IT'S VERIFIED, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE COULD BE SUED. THE OTHER THING THAT MADE THIS LAW VERY COMPLICATED IS IT DID SAY THAT THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU COULD LEGALLY ALLOW THEM TO CAMP OR SLEEP IS A FULLY SANCTIONED HOUSING LOCATION, OR CAMPING LOCATION, BUT THE CAMPING LOCATION HAD TO HAVE FULL FACILITIES, BATHROOMS. SEWER, WATER, SHELTER, ETC. AND THE KICKER WAS THAT IT THE CAMPING LOCATION COULD NOT DIMINISH THE VALUE OF ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT IS ABOUT THE MOST SUBJECTIVE THING I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE, BECAUSE ANYBODY WOULD SAY IT DIMINISHED MY VALUE AND LIKE, HOW DO YOU BEAT THAT? I MEAN, IT'S REALLY VERY COMPLICATED. NO SUCH FACILITY EXISTS. WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE BEFORE, BUT THERE'S THE THERE'S A COUPLE OF GROUPS I CAN'T THINK OF THE ONE THAT BUT THEY BOUGHT, THEY BOUGHT THE LOT ON THE CORNER OF DIXIE AND MLK. I'M HAVING A MENTAL. I PROMISE IT'S WELL, IT'S NOT. WHAT'S IT? IT'S LALA LALA LALA LALA BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND I HAD I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO ANYBODY INDIVIDUALLY THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING, BUT I HAD HEARD THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOSSIP LINE OR WHATEVER THAT, THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO SOME TYPE OF HOMELESS HOUSING THERE. BUT I LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE NEVER COME IN FOR AN APPLICATION. WOULD IT HAVE TO BE WITH US? IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED. WELL, THEY'RE IT'S A 500 1C3 AND IT WOULD BE IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE HOMELESS THERE OR SEND HOMELESS THERE. AGAIN, I DON'T I HAVE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY THIS IS VACANT LAND ANYWAY. SO EVEN IF THEY SAID THEY WERE DOING IT, IT'D BE THREE YEARS FROM NOW BEFORE IT HAPPENED. SO 
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FOR RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSE IS A DEFENSIVE ONE BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR BEING SUED? UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH. IT PUTS US INTO A SITUATION WHERE IF WE JUST IGNORE IT, WE WILL GET SUED, RIGHT? IF WE ALLOW IT, THAT IS IF WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THIS PARK TO CAMPING FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE, WE'D HAVE TO INSTALL ALL OF THE FACILITIES. 
          AND THEN IF ANYBODY WITHIN EARSHOT OF THAT PARK CLAIMED THAT IT DIMINISHED THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY, WE'D GET SUED. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE AND THEY CLEARLY ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO DO HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS. IT SAYS RIGHT ON THEIR WEBSITE, THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER. IT'S A FULL SERVICE, DAYTIME SAFE HAVEN FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNHOUSED. SO THEY'RE NOT PREPARED AT THIS POINT TO DO ANYTHING. AND THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS I GUESS WE ALWAYS LOOKED AT NUMBERS. I KNOW THE COUNTY WOULD DO AN ANNUAL CENSUS AND WOULD WOULD FIND THAT THERE WERE 300, MAYBE 350 TOTAL AND THAT IN THE CITY THERE WERE ABOUT 50 UNHOUSED PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE SCALE OF IT. AND SO WHAT COMMISSIONER JOBY IS SAYING IS, IS NOT. I THINK, IS THAT IF WE WERE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY JUST TO OPEN A DIALOG, OPEN A DIALOG JUST REALLY IS NOT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS. WHAT IT'S REALLY IS, IS OPENING UP A DIALOG SO THAT THE COUNTY COULD HOPEFULLY HAVE A POINT PERSON THAT ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO HELP THE HOMELESS, WELL, THEY THEY DO, THEY DO, THEY DO. AND THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN SERVICES HAS IS THAT PERSON, RIGHT? SHE IS THAT PERSON. YEAH. SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S CHARGED WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY BY THE COUNTY. TO HER, I DIDN'T GET THAT IMPRESSION, BUT MAYBE I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HER AGAIN. MAYBE SHE WAS. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER CLARK. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU, MR. NICOLETTI. 
          NICOLETTI, FOR BRINGING THAT UP FOR ME. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK. SHE FORGOT YOU? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO THIS GROUP, JUST LIKE MISS JOBY MENTIONED THAT MAYBE. IS IT POSSIBLE WE'RE ALMOST INTO JUNE NOW? AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST. WE HAD A JOINT MEETING SOME TIME AGO, BUT WE'LL HAVE ONE OF THOSE JOINT MEETINGS COMING UP AGAIN. COMMISSIONER KEMP, YOU HAD BROUGHT UP SOME THINGS PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT MAYBE WE COULD AS A CITY, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR, OUR ATTORNEY AND OTHER THINGS. SO WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. WE PROBABLY HAVE MIGHT HAVE DEVELOPMENT ON THE AGENDA IF WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO PURPOSEFULLY BRING UP. I PROMISED THAT I WAS GOING TO TALK TO MR. KEMP WHEN PEOPLE CAME IN HERE THE OTHER DAY, AND JUST TO REACH OUT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL AGAIN TO FIND OUT AFTER HE BROUGHT IN THAT ONE SAND DOLLAR, THROWING OUT AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE, THAT WE TRY TO BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT JOINT MEETING TO SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS OF EVERYBODY ON THIS HOMELESS THING. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO HAVE IT DONE, BUT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. MISS LOUISE HUBBARD, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL DOING THAT NOW, BUT THEY HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER UP THERE. WHEN I DID DCF CASES, WE HAD PARENTS AND OTHERS WHO WOULD GO UP TO INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FROM THIS AREA. SO THEY KIND OF SERVE THE TREASURE COAST. AND IT WAS A VERY QUIET AFFAIR, AND PEOPLE WOULD GET HOUSING AND HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO STAY UP THERE AT THE HOMELESS SHELTER IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. AND LOUISE HUBBARD HAS BEEN AROUND SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY DO THINGS UP THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD AGAIN ASK THEM TO COME DOWN IN CONCERT WITH WHATEVER COMMISSIONER KEMP IS DOING OR THINKING IS TO ASK THEM TO COME DOWN AND TALK TO US AND GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF HOW THEIR THEIR THING WORKS UP THERE, WITHOUT IT DAMAGING AND BRINGING DOWN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK THAT IT WORKS WELL UP IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FOR THAT LOCATION. AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY PUT IT ON THE JOINT AGENDA IF PEOPLE AGREE WITH THAT. WHEN ANITA WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY, SHE DID A GREAT JOB KEEPING UP WITH THE HOMELESS, AND THEY HAD THE FEBRUARY SURVEYS IN THE WINTER WHERE THEY WOULD GET OUT IN THE WOODS AND GO DO ALL KINDS OF 
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THINGS TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE. I KNOW BETWEEN THE SHERIFF AND DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS, A LOT OF THE QUOTE UNQUOTE HOMELESS SPOTS IN THE WOODS HAVE BEEN CLEARED UP BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING KILLED AND THINGS HAPPENING OUT THERE IN THE WOODS. SO A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN CLEARED UP, BUT THEY ARE GOING SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE STILL STAYING SOMEWHERE. AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT RECEDING. SO IF WE NEED TO BRING IT UP AGAIN, MAYBE WE CAN HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS HOUSE BILL 1365 AND IMPACTS AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. OR I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT UP AT THE JOINT MEETING. AND IF I'D ASKED IF WE WANT TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO TRY TO BRING THAT UP AS AN ITEM, AND MAYBE BY THAT TIME THE CITY COULD AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE MATTER. I CAN TELL YOU THAT HOUSE BILL 1365 WAS ADOPTED BY THE GOVERNOR IN 2024 LAST YEAR, SO IT'S MORE THAN A YEAR OLD. THEY DID NOT AMEND THAT BILL THIS YEAR. THAT'S PART OF THE STATE STATUTE ALREADY. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM ADDING IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT ARE WE OFFERING THE CITY IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS? I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER. SO I ACTUALLY SIT ROB, ROB RANIERI, HOUSE OF HOPE. WE HAD A WE HAVE A AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND COMMISSIONER CAMPI SITS ON THERE WITH MYSELF. WE IN FACT WE WILL MEET NEXT TUESDAY, SO I WILL I'M HAPPY TO BRING UP YOUR CONCERNS, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A VERY DIVERSE PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED, PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING UNHOUSED AND SINGLE PARENTS, AND THEN THE HOMELESS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL. I MEAN, IT'S THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S MOST DIRE. CHIEF. IS 50 ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBER MENTIONED BY MR. NICOLETTI IN THE CITY? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S STILL VALID, BUT IT WAS IT WAS OUT OF THE ROOM WAS 50. IS THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT IN THE CITY? HOMELESS CAMPS? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE CAMPS, BUT THAT CAMPS. NO INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY. YEAH. I, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. IT COULD VERY WELL BE FAIRLY ACCURATE. WE DO HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE FAR MORE CONNECTED WITH FOLKS THAT ARE IN THOSE POSITIONS. BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER TONIGHT. BUT IT COULD BE YOU. CERTAINLY, COMMISSIONER CLARK, MR. CHIEF. 
          CHIEF, CHIEF, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY. CHIEF, COULD YOU PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME FOR US, PLEASE? YOU SAID IT. YOU WERE SPOT ON EARLIER. FLEMMER ZANELLA. OKAY. DANYLOVYCH. FLEMMER. OKAY, SO WE PUT PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO, BUT I KNOW THAT I'VE, I'VE ASKED PEOPLE TO, TO BE PAID FOR, TO STAY IN THE SUBURBAN AND OTHER PLACES BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH, WITH THE SHERIFF AND WITH PRIVATE PROMISE AND OTHER GROUPS, SAINT MARY'S, WE'VE HAD TO PUT PEOPLE WHAT WHAT IS THE KIND OF TURNOVER THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING IN THE SUBURBAN BECAUSE OF HOMELESS ISSUES? I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT KNOWLEDGE MYSELF ABOUT THE SUBURBAN LODGE AND WHAT THEIR TURNOVER RATE IS. I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH ANYONE OVER THERE. IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S A VARIETY OF FOLKS THAT THAT STAY AT THE SUBURBAN LODGE, AND WE DO HAVE CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE, BUT NOTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE SERIOUS THAN A NORMAL CALL FOR SERVICE AND, AND NOTHING THAT COMES TO MIND THAT DEALS DIRECTLY WITH HOMELESSNESS OR ANY OF THAT, THAT TYPE OF ISSUE THERE. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. THANKS. 
          AND THAT THAT DOES GO THROUGH THE MARTIN COUNTIES, RIGHT? YES. THEY PUT THE MONEY INTO THAT. 
          YEAH. ANY OTHER POINTS YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP COMMISSIONER DOBY OR. NO. BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WHEN YOU SEE COMMISSIONER KENT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHIEF. 
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ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. LOCAL GOVERNMENT HALF-CENT SALES TAX. MR. MARTELL, ARE YOU. YEAH, I, I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE COMMISSION ASKED ME TO PUT IT ON THE ON THE D AND D. A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO. I HAD BEEN KIND OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER. SO WE DO KIND OF HAVE AN ANSWER NOW. AND I CAN WORK WITH RUTH MOVING FORWARD ON IT. BUT I ALSO WANTED SO THAT I COULD PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA ITEM TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AND HEAR WHAT, WHAT PRIORITIES YOU HAVE. AND LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THE COUNTY, FIRST OF ALL, THE STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS YOU TO IMPLEMENT A HALF CENT SALES TAX ONLY ALLOWS A COUNTY TO DO IT, OR A CITY WITH A POPULATION OF MORE THAN 500,000 PEOPLE. SO WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE CLOSE. BUT WHEN THE COUNTY DOES A REFERENDUM AND DOES THIS REFERENDUM LANGUAGE, IT DOESN'T BIND THE CITY TO THAT REFERENDUM LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE'RE A SEPARATE JURISDICTION, BUT WE GET OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE FUNDING. HISTORICALLY, THE 
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CITY OF STUART HAS TRIED TO FOLLOW SUIT AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE TO THE REFERENDUM LANGUAGE. AND BACK IN 2011 OR 12, WHEN THEY LAST DID IT, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE 52 ACRES OF CREEK AND DO SOME OTHER THINGS, WHICH WAS GREAT. NOW THERE ISN'T. FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS GREAT TO BECAUSE IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION, SO LAND WAS CHEAP. BUT THERE'S THERE ISN'T ANY WATERSHEDS AVAILABLE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. MOST OF IT I'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED HAS EITHER BEEN PLACED IN CONSERVATION OR AT MINIMUM IS PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT IS DEDICATED AS PART OF AN UPLAND PRESERVATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE CANNOT BUY LAND OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION OR SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS PRESERVING OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO IT LIMITS THE PROPOSALS. BUT WE COULD DO STORMWATER PROJECTS. YOU SAW CLAY SHAW WAS HERE EARLIER. HE'S SERVING ON ONE OF THE BOARDS, AND I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, BUT HE GOT HIS DOCTORATE IN ENTOMOLOGY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY BUGS. BUT BUGS AND PARKS GO HAND IN HAND AND BUGS AND TREES GO WELL, TOO. AND HE ACTUALLY HAD BEEN HIRED AND PUT TOGETHER A CANOPY OR A TREE PROGRAM. AND IN PENNSYLVANIA AND ALSO IN SWITZERLAND. AND HE AND I HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          AND WE COULD PRESENT TO YOU AND BRING BACK TO YOU. AND WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT THE OTHER NIGHT ON THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE 10TH STREET CORRIDOR, THE WAY THESE TREE CANOPIES OR THE TREE PROGRAM COULD WORK IS YOU COULD FUND ENOUGH MONEY FOR ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, REQUEST ONE OF FOUR DIFFERENT TREES THAT WE'D PICK OUT. AND THEN IF THEY REQUESTED A TREE, THE CITY WOULD THEN GO INSTALL IT IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND THEN WOULD WATER IT FOR 90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH A COMMITMENT FROM THEM THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN IT. AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR CANOPY TYPE TREE. ALSO ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU STARTED AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON 10TH STREET, AND IF YOU LOOK ON GOOGLE EARTH NOW, ALL THE WAY FROM THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON 10TH STREET, ALL THE WAY PAST THE GRADE SCHOOLS AND ALL THE WAY TO MONTEREY ROAD, THERE IS VERY LITTLE COVER. SO IF YOU'RE A KID WALKING FROM SCHOOL THAT IS JUST SIZZLING ASPHALT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MAYBE DOING A TREE PROGRAM OR A CANOPY PROGRAM. 10TH STREET, BE A GREAT CANDIDATE. MLK BOULEVARD WOULD BE ANOTHER CANDIDATE WHERE IT CROSSES PALM BEACH ROAD AND THEN GOES ON TO SEVENTH STREET AND DOWN THAT WAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO BRING A PROGRAM LIKE THAT BACK. ALSO, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES CLEAN UP FRAZIER CREEK, YOU KNOW, MANGROVE PROGRAMS. WE COULD DO OYSTER PROGRAMS. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAD ANY, LIKE, HERE'S MY DIRECTION AND HERE'S WHAT I WANT. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY TWO MONTHS UNDER OUR BELTS OF MONEY, AND WE MIGHT HAVE APRIL'S ALREADY, BUT I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE GOT 180 AND THEN JUST SHY OF $190,000 FOR FEBRUARY AND THEN FOR MARCH. BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THOSE SALES TAX ARE PROBABLY JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND THEY'RE THE HEIGHT OF OUR OUR SEASON AND THE HEIGHT OF THE SALES TAX. THE AMOUNTS GOIN DOWN TO SOME EXTENT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS. AND THEN OF COURSE, PICK BACK UP AGAIN IN THE SEASONAL MONTHS. BUT I WAS SAYING TO MYSELF, IF IT'S $180,000 A MONTH TIMES TEN MONTHS, THAT'S $1.8 MILLION. AND THEN I JUST SAID, WELL, WHAT IF IT'S 150,000 A MONTH? AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, 1.8 TO $2 MILLION IS PROBABLY A REAL NUMBER AS TO WHAT THE VALUE IS THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. AS FAR AS THIS IS THIS, THIS MONEY IS CONCERNED. SO WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AND I CAN I CAN BRING IT BACK AS A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM AND I WILL. BUT I WAS BEFORE DOING THAT WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO THROW OUT SOME IDEAS OR SOME THOUGHTS AS TO WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. WELL, I, I THINK THAT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED AND WE COULD USE DO STORMWATER PROJECTS, DO CANOPY TREE PROGRAM. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM US AS TO WHICH TO DO OR TO JUST. WELL, I'M ALL TOGETHER AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE. AND SO WITHOUT LIKE OBVIOUSLY WITH NO ONE SAID, OH, I DON'T WANT TO DO A TREE PROGRAM. SO I'LL INCLUDE THE TREE PROGRAM, I'LL INCLUDE THE STORMWATER PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS. THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FRAZIER CREEK, POPPLETON CREEK, COUGAR CREEK, CANEY CREEK THAT ARE ALL WATER ESTUARIES THAT COULD BE DREDGED, THAT COULD BE CLEANED, THAT COULD BE TRIMMED, THE MANGROVES THAT COULD BUILD BOARDWALKS ON THEM, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MILLION THINGS YOU COULD DO THAT ARE, 
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YOU KNOW, I COULD SPEND $100 MILLION ON ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BALANCE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND CAN DO. I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR IS THERE ANY PRIORITIZATION OR ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST KIND OF BRING BACK SEVERAL IDEAS AND, AND, AND HAVE YOU IDENTIFY IT? WELL, WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AS IT RELATES TO STORMWATER ANYWAY. BUT AGAIN, COMMISSIONER CLARK OH THANK YOU. WILL YOU FINISH. NO NO NO I WASN'T OH I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION A QUESTION FOR MIKE. WELL HE'S SPEAKING. YES OKAY. SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REFER BACK TO VICE MAYOR COLLINS AND WHAT HE SAID IN REGARDS TO IMPROVING OUR PARKS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO THAT, USE THAT MONEY IF WE CAN UTILIZE THAT MONEY FOR THAT. I MEAN, IT BRINGS SOME OF OUR PARKS UP TO, TO THE LEVEL WE'D LIKE THEM TO BE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO ENJOY. AND THE ONES THAT, OF COURSE, ARE BY THE WATER IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. BUT I'D LIKE TO REFER BACK TO SOME OF VICE MAYOR COLLINS'S SUGGESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK, THANKS. I COULD PIGGYBACK ON THAT, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO LEAVE IT BECAUSE I HAVE THE DOG PARK AND POPLAR CREEK. I JUST WANT TO GO. THIS IS KIND OF LIKE MY LITTLE WRAP UP THING I'M GOING TO END. I SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT 10TH STREET EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE A BIG RAIN AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF BIG RAINS. AND THIS IS NOT A CITY ROAD, IT'S A COUNTY ROAD. BUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT AND WHERE THE, THE WATER PLANT IS ON PALM BEACH ROAD, THERE SEEMS TO BE A DRAINAGE ISSUE OR SOMETHING, AND I THE WATER JUST IS JUST REALLY HIGH AND SETTLES FOR A LONG TIME THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO GET THAT BETTER, BECAUSE A LOT. 
          WHERE IS IT? IT'S ON PALM BEACH ROAD, JUST SOUTH OF 10TH STREET, BETWEEN. YEAH, THAT THIS WATER GETS REALLY HEAVY AND THICK IN THERE WHEN IT RAINS. THAT'S JUST MY OTHER THING. SPEAKING OF TREES, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I'VE EVER BROUGHT THIS UP WITH MILTON BEFORE, BROUGHT IT TO THIS COMMISSION. BUT ON EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, WHEN WE HAD PUT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TREES OR FLOWERING TREES OF DIFFERENT KINDS OUT THERE, THERE'S LITTLE MARKERS THAT SIT AROUND THEM OR SIT BESIDE THEM. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN SUNK IN THE GROUND, SOME ARE LOST OR WHATEVER. WE DON'T KNOW WHO HELPED FUND THOSE TREES, AND I JUST THINK THAT IT WASN'T A CITY PROGRAM THAT WAS DICTATED OR SOMETHING. IT WAS DICK KIBBEE AND THE MARTIN COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION DID THAT PROGRAM. I KNOW, BUT THEY'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE DISINTEGRATED IN OUR SIDEWALK AREA. AND SOMEHOW WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT LOOK GOOD AND TRY TO SPRUCE UP THOSE TREES AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S AROUND THEM. THAT'S MY THING. THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE DOG PARK AND THE PUPPET CREEK EXTENSION OVER TOWARDS THE DOG PARK AREA. IF WE EVER BUILD THAT ROAD THERE, NOW THAT WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY THERE AND OTHER THINGS AND THE ROAD GOES THROUGH, WE DO NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT AREA AND, AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THERE. AND A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE IN THERE. YOU GUYS, YOU THE COMMISSION VOTED AND THE MPO VOTE FIRST. THE MPO VOTED ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS AGO TO FEDERALIZE THE WILLOUGHBY EXTENSION. AND THEN YOU HAD A PDA STUDY PRESENTATION FROM F FROM FDOT, I THINK 2 OR 3 MEETINGS AGO, AS IT RELATED TO THOSE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT EXTENSION. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GOING FORWARD. YES, SIR. AND THEN WE THE CITY LAST YEAR YOU HAD THE CITY BUILD A SWING SET AND COVERED PARK AREA ADJACENT TO THAT RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT BY THAT MULTIFAMILY ON THAT OPEN FIELD, BY THE. DOG PARK. AND SINCE THEN WE PLANTED SOME TREES AND I AND I KNOW THAT ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER REED AND I HAD BEEN SPEAKING TO ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE DONATE TREES BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE DIE, THEY WANT TO DONATE A TREE. WE'VE BEEN STEERING THEM KIND OF THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE OVER THERE. YEAH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD ONE TIME WE HAD SOMEBODY COME IN AND WANTED TO DO SOME KIND OF A PAID ACTIVITY AT THE DOG PARK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEASE IT TO DO SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL THERE WAS THAT THAT WAS YOU GUYS VOTED NO TO THAT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE A CONCESSION STAND. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYTHING ANY POTENTIAL COULD, COULD COME UP IN THAT AREA. THAT'S IT FOR TODAY, MR. VICE MAYOR. SO JUST 
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IN KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE REFERENDUM, RIGHT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT AN AUDIT IF THERE IS AVAILABLE LAND, MONEY, YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS LIKE POCKET PARKS, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ARE THERE SPOTS WE COULD EYEBALL THAT WOULD HAVE US? YEAH. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN, A PARKS MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF RENOVATING SOME OF OUR EXISTING PARKS. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW THAT POPPLETON CREEK PARK. I AGREE, IF WE COULD OPEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH. LIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE HEART OF THE REFERENDUM WAS LIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE. NOT NOT HEAVY DUTY, BUT CANEY CREEK. CANEY CREEK IS THE BIG ONE. AND I KNOW I BEAT THIS TO DEATH. I WANT THAT TWO ACRES TO BE LOCKED UP AS A TRAILHEAD AND PARK OFF OF FEDERAL SO IT DOESN'T TURN INTO A CAR WASH OR APARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE. I MEAN, WE COULD MAKE IT. WE COULD REALLY MAKE HIM CRAZY AND MAKE IT. JEFF KRAUSKOPF PARK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE HE WANTED IT TO BE COMMERCIAL. BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TWO ACRES TO BE A TRAILHEAD, MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE PLAYGROUND OR SOMETHING, BUT SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK AND THEN HAVE A NATURAL PARK TO WALK THROUGH FROM THAT DIRECTION, AND NOT JUST THE OTHER SIDE. AND SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH POPPLETON CREEK LIGHT NATURAL PARK INFRASTRUCTURE. NOTHING HEAVY. I LOVE THE IDEA OF CANOPY TREES, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR ME, THE LAND MORE THAN THE TREES, THE LAND. AND THEN POPPLETON AND THAT TWO ACRES NORTH THAT HANEY ON THAT HANEY CREEK. BUT AS MONEY'S COMING IN, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS IS THE BALL FIELDS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL TELL ME, MAN, THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED, THAT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU STEWARD IS ZONED AS ABACOA, YOU KNOW, BRIGHTLINE'S GOING TO BE THERE. THE BALL FIELDS HAS A BULLS EYE ON IT. SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY INVESTING INTO YOUR BALL FIELDS, BRINGING YOUR BALL FIELDS UP TO WHERE IT MAKES LESS SENSE TO TRY TO TURN THAT INTO SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN NEXT TO THE BALL FIELDS, THE CURRENT GARAGE SITE, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? CAN THAT POTENTIALLY BE PARK SPACE AS WELL, OR IS THAT DESTINED TO BE ABACOA MIXED USE IN THE FUTURE? THOSE ARE MY MAIN THOUGHTS. BUT HE OWNED THE BALL FIELD AND WE OWNED THE GARAGE. WE DO. BUT JUST IN TERMS OF INVESTING CAPITAL, IS THAT SITTING IN AN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT THAT'S SEPARATE, OR IS THAT JUST GOING INTO OUR GENERAL FUND, THE, THE, THE, THE HALF-CENT SALES TAX WOULD BE A SEPARATE ACCOUNT THAT'S NOT COMING IN. IS THAT WHERE THAT'S NOT GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND AT THIS POINT CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE OF ANY TYPE. CAN YOU GO INTO AN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT? I THINK IT COULD. WELL, I'LL, I'LL CHECK WITH JULIE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IN AN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT AS IT COMES IN. YES. YEAH. MAINTENANCE OF PARK COMMISSIONER CLARK. THERE'S NO RESTRICTION ON IT. IT'S NOT FAIR. THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR. YES, OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, IT VAGUELY GOES INTO THIS WHOLE. ARE WE GOING TO NUMBER NINE? LIVE LOCAL? NO. LOCAL. ABSENT. 
          ABSENT. OKAY, SO WE'RE DOING WITH THE PARKS. WE'RE ALMOST OKAY. SO NO. SO WITH THE PARKS. 
          AND SINCE COMMISSIONER COLLINS HAS BROUGHT IT UP, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE, AND I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE 10TH STREET PLAN. BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE SOMETHING LIKE THE SKATE PARK WAS GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE 14TH STREET AREA, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW THE PARKING LOT OR ANY TREES OR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA IS. SO I GUESS WE DO NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE PLANNING RIGHT THERE FOR THAT AREA. LIKE 15TH. YEAH. HALFWAY UP TRIANGLE. YEAH, ABOUT HALFWAY UP TO 13TH. AND THEN EVERYTHING NORTH OF THAT IS LIKE PARKING LOT OF THE FIELDS. OH IT DOES HAVE THE. SO THE PARKING WON'T BE DOWN TOWARDS THE A-1-A SIDE. THE ACTUAL SKATE PARK DOESN'T QUITE GO TO 13TH STREET. IT'S LIKE 15TH UP TO ABOUT HALFWAY TO 13TH. OKAY. ALL OF THE REST OF THAT ABOVE IS PARKING. OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD LOOK. AND THEN SOMEBODY HAS BROUGHT UP TO ME ABOUT USING FOOD TRUCKS IN THE PARK WHEN THEY'RE EVENTS, OR IF WE HAVE BIG EVENTS, NOT JUST A ONE TIME THING, BUT SOMEBODY WAS SAYING THAT IF A, IF AN ORGANIZATION COULD POTENTIALLY AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH HEALTH DEPARTMENT PLUS OUR REGULATIONS USE. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE MLK PARK ON PARK 
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AVENUE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE BIG PARK, THE BIG GUYS RELATE TO THE KNOW. WELL, IT'S ABOUT IT'S JUST ABOUT JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, IF IT'S SOME TYPE OF EXPANSION WITH THE PARK. WOULD EVEN THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED AT FULTON CREEK. AND THE PERSON THAT HAD THE PROPOSAL CAME IN AND THE COMMISSION VOTED NO. YEAH. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME. AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING FUNDS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS THEY WANT, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A WAY FOR SMALL GROUPS TO ACTUALLY RUN THE CONCESSION STAND AT THESE PARKS INSTEAD OF THAT WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HALF CENT TAX, I'M PRETTY SURE. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH. YEAH, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO LET'S JUST. OKAY. I JUST BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE I HAD TO DO WITH THE PARK. MR. CHRISTIE WAS MENTIONING THAT HE THOUGHT WE SHOULD DEDICATE THE CONCESSION STANDS TO THE GUY DAVIS PARK. BUT THAT'S YEARS AWAY. AND RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE DO SAILFISH PARK AND THE LITTLE LEAGUE DOES BASEBALL GAMES THERE, THE VOLUNTEER MOMS RUN THE CONCESSION STANDS. AND SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE EMPLOYEES. 
          AND IT MAY BE SOMEDAY THAT IT'S BIG ENOUGH OR GRAND ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPERATION THERE WITH A SEPARATE. IT'S A LONG WAY AWAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THE COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN BUSINESS. NO. SORRY. OH, GOOD. NO ONE HEARD THAT. OKAY, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, CAN THIS BE DONE IN-HOUSE? THIS MASTER PARK PLAN? NOT THAT WE HAVE TO SEND IT OUT TO A PRIVATE ENTITY. YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO COME BACK WITH A LIST OF ALL THE PARKS. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT I'M NOT GOING TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO MAKE A LIST, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          THE MASTER PLAN IS UP TO YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS, WHEN THE WHEN THE COMMISSION WANTED A DESIGN FOR GUY DAVIS PARK THAT THAT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE IN-HOUSE. THAT REQUIRES ENGINEERING AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND ALL SORTS OF TECHNICAL STUFF, AND ALSO WHERE THE LIGHTING IS AND WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE AND THE PARKING DESIGNS AND LITERALLY THE TERRAIN OF THE LAND. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARCHITECTS AND BRING BACK A LIST OF THE PARKS AND THEN START DIGGING IN TIES INTO OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION. AND THIS WOULD BE CITY WIDE. IT WOULD BE JUST IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO PRIORITIZE IT. THEN WITH AN IDEA OF THE COST, WE ARE LOOKING AT 10TH STREET AND IMPROVING THE SAFETY THERE. AND WE HAD THAT SMALL MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, AND ITEM THAT DOES IMPROVE ROAD SAFETY DRAMATICALLY IS TREES. IT VISUALLY NARROWS THE ROAD AND SLOWS SO THAT YOU CAN COMBINE. I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY SO SORRY. SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE, MR. MARTEL. AND THEN IT'S UP TO US WITH THE COST APPROXIMATELY. AND THEN WE CAN PRIORITIZE. AND POPPLETON CREEK AND HANEY CREEK WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT. WELL, WHEN I WHEN I SIT UP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM, IT WOULD BE. BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE REASONS THAT NOBODY ACTUALLY RENTED THAT LAND THAT COMMISSIONER KRAUSKOPF REFERENDUM ON WAS BECAUSE FDOT REQUIRES A $750,000 DECELERATION LANE FOR PEOPLE TO TURN RIGHT INTO THAT TWO ACRES. SO FOR US TO MAKE THAT A PARKING LOT, EVEN FOR A TRAILHEAD, WOULD REQUIRE US TO THAT DECELERATION LANE AS WELL. AND SO THE COST IS ALL RELATIVE. IS IT JUST THE COST OF THE TRAILHEAD, OR IS IT THE COST OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHT MODIFICATION AND THE DECELERATION LANE AND THE PARKING LOT? AND THEN ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD A BATHROOM THERE AND HAVE A BATHROOM THERE FOR PEOPLE TO USE? AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IT'S ALL A IT'S A SIZING EXERCISE. WHAT I THINK I'LL DO IS JUST BRING BACK ALL OF THESE IDEAS, PUT THEM ON AN AGENDA, WE'LL DISCUSS IT, AND WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING THROUGH IT UNTIL WE FINALLY KIND OF GET NARROWED DOWN. AND I'LL ALSO TRY AND IDENTIFY SOME LAND HERE AND THERE, MAYBE. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S DISGUSTING BACK 
          [9. LIVE LOCAL ACT DISCUSSION]
THERE. OKAY. MOVING ON. COMMISSIONER CLARK, ARE YOU OKAY FOR A SECOND? LIVE. LOOK, WE SAVED THE WORST FOR LAST. ACTUALLY, THIS WAS ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. IT WAS. THE CITY ATTORNEY PUT IT IN AS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. I REALLY THINK IT WAS MORE RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY. THE HURRICANE EMERGENCY RELIEF ACT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WAS OBVIOUSLY ADOPTED LAST YEAR, THE URGENCY RELIEF ACT BEING WHAT RESCINDED ALL OF THE ACTIONS OF ALL THE STATES AND COUNTIES FROM AUGUST 1ST TO THE PRESENT. BUT IT MAY BE LIVE, LOCAL, BUT I'LL LET COMMISSIONER TAKE IT FROM THERE. WELL, NO, YOU'RE ACTUALLY CORRECT, CITY MANAGER. YOU ARE CORRECT IT. I PUT IT AS LIVE LOCAL BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN PASSED THIS YEAR? YOU OKAY? THE TWO OF YOU. I KNOW, IT'S LIKE. DID YOU FILL THAT CUP WITH WATER 
          [01:50:04]
THAT I GAVE YOU? OKAY, CONTINUE. PLEASE, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THANK YOU. SUSAN, SUSI HAS WATER FOR YOU. OKAY, SO YOU'RE RIGHT. THE EMERGENCY ACT JUST KIND OF. I LOOKED AT IT. IT WAS LIKE LIVE LOCAL NUMBER THREE. SO STARTING WITH 2023, THE STATE OF FLORIDA PASSED THE LIVE LOCAL TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE STATE PROVIDED INCENTIVES TO DEVELOPERS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS. ALL THE DEVELOPER HAD TO DO WAS AGREE TO DO 40% APARTMENTS AT AFFORDABLE RATE. 
          BASED ON THE AMI, THE ADJUSTED MEDIAN INCOME, AND WITH THAT, THEY COULD BYPASS COMMISSION APPROVAL. BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH TO SATISFY THE DEVELOPERS IN 2025, LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS ARE REPRESENTATIVE PASSED SEVERAL BILLS WHICH WILL FURTHER ENSURE THAT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO HOME RULE, WHICH IS WHAT WE NOW HAVE, WHERE WE HAVE NO SAY OVER HOW OUR CITY IS PLANNED AND CURRENTLY IN THE FUTURE. FLORIDA IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL STATE AT THIS POINT, A DEVELOPER CAN COME INTO TOWN, PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT, BYPASS THE COMMISSIONERS, AND WE HAVE BASICALLY SEVEN DAYS TO APPROVE THIS. A MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN EXPECTED TO CHANGE THE SKYLINE AND COASTAL IN FORT PIERCE HAS BEEN PROPOSED. THAT PROPOSAL INCLUDES 17 STORY BUILDING ON HUTCHINSON ISLAND AT THE CAUSEWAY COVE MARINA, WHICH INCLUDES APARTMENTS, CONDOS, A HOTEL, COMMERCIAL SPACE. AT THE MAY 5TH COMMISSION MEETING OF FORT PIERCE, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK STATED, THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO. I SUGGEST EVERYONE WATCH THE VIDEO. IT WAS SAD. IT WAS A COLD REMINDER AS TO HOW MUCH THE STATEHOUSE HAS TAKEN AWAY FROM OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I DISAGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I DISAGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF FORT PIERCE. 
          THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. WE MAY NOT BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO BE DONE. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER FLORIDA. WE NEED A COALITION OF CITIES AND TOWNS TO TAKE OUR MESSAGE TO TALLAHASSEE. THE REASON I ASK FOR THIS, TO PUT ON THE AGENDA TODAY, SO THAT WE CAN DECIDE HOW AND WHERE WE WANT TO PROCEED FROM HERE. THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY BASICALLY REACHING OUT TO ALL THESE COUNTIES AND CITIES WHO ARE BASICALLY AFFECTED, AS WE ARE IN NOT HAVING ANY CONTROL OVER THEIR LOCAL ZONING OR PLANNING. OKAY, SO I AM THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE TO THE TREASURE COAST REGION, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. YES, I KNOW YOU ARE. 
          THAT IS WHAT IT DOES. AND IT THERE ARE SEVEN REGIONS AND WE WORK. YOU WERE JUST ATTENDED THAT MEETING. THERE WERE FIVE OTHER MAYORS IN THAT ROOM WHO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU DO, AND THEY ARE CONNECTED TO ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL LOBBYING ARMS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT REPRESENTS THE INTEREST OF THE CITY. AND THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THESE BATTLES FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN AN UPHILL SLOG BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNOR PRESENCE OF THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE. IT'S COLD. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL THE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT FOR DECADES NOW. BUT THAT ORGANIZATION EXISTS. AND IT DOES. AND CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A POWERHOUSE AND THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE GATHERING ALL OF THEIR LEGISLATIVE POWER WITH THE OTHER CITIES. BUT THE RIVER COALITION HAS BEEN IN POWER FOR HOW MANY YEARS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE RIVER. AND IT'S BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE. NOTHING HAPPENS. ALL I'M SAYING IS, MAYBE AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO TRY SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THAT'S ALL. I'M NOT DIMINISHING THE TREASURE COAST. I'M NOT DIMINISHING YOUR CONNECTION WITH THEM. AND YES, I WAS AT THAT LUNCHEON. I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT WHEN YOU GO TO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, WE HEAR THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER, BUT NOTHING CHANGES. AND THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION. NOTHING CHANGES. WELL, I DON'T I DON'T THINK YOU YOU TRACK THE LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN THREATENED IN PRIOR YEARS AND HAS FAILED BECAUSE OF THE LOBBYING. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN UPHILL I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON YOUR OWN THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ALREADY VERY, VERY BUSY. THEY'RE VERY COMFORTABLE. THAT'S THE KEY RIGHT THERE WITH THE TREASURE COAST REGION, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO ORGANIZE SOMETHING THAT IN ESSENCE DUPLICATES THAT WITHOUT THE SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT THE LEAGUE HAS, I MEAN, WORK WITH THEM, BEAT HIM, JOIN HIM. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE MEETINGS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN LOBBYIST THAT WORKS WITH THE LEAGUE. AND WHEN I'M UP THERE, HE HE TALKS TO ME AND HE TALKS TO THE OTHER LEAGUE MEMBERS. I, I, I'M ACTUALLY CONFUSED THAT YOU ALL YOU NEED TO DUPLICATE WHAT THIS GROUP HAS BEEN DOING SO EFFECTIVELY, SO BROADLY BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY SITTING HERE SAYING IT'S AN UPHILL BATTLE, IT'S ALMOST NOT WINNABLE. SO THEN WHY DOES THE GROUP EVEN EXIST? SO ALL I'M SAYING IS 
          [01:55:05]
MAYBE THEY DO WIN. THEY DO WIN MANY BATTLES. WELL, THEY THEY DO WIN MANY BATTLES. THIS LEGISLATION, THEY ACTUALLY SUCCEEDED ON THE INCREASING THE LIMITS OF THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BILL, WHICH WAS SIGNIFICANT. THEY, THEY THEY PREVAILED ON THE CRA BILL, WHICH WAS SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHERS THAT I DIDN'T WASN'T PREPARED TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY WHAT THEY DID PREVAIL ON OR DIDN'T. THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS, IS THAT THE THAT THE STATE, AS COMMUNICATIONS HAVE CHANGED FOR THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS, EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAS TAKEN SOME ACTION TO SHRINK THE HOME RULE SIDE OF IT. AND WHILE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS BEEN TRYING TO RESIST THE SHRINKING OF THE HOME RULE, IT'S STILL GETS GETS ATTACKED. THIS YEAR WAS A BIT OF A BACK DOOR BECAUSE THE SENATE PASSED THE HURRICANE RELIEF BILL WITHOUT ANY OF THE DESTRUCTIVE LANGUAGE IN IT ON APRIL 9TH. SO IT KIND OF WENT OFF TO THE SIDELINES. IT WAS DONE AT THE TIME AND NOBODY HAD ANY PROBLEM. IT WAS GOING TO BE HURRICANE RELIEF. IT'S 56 PAGES LONG. 
          WHATEVER. THE HOUSE ADOPTED THE SENATE VERSION ONE, SENATE BILL 180 ON MAY, ON APRIL 30TH, AND THEN ON MAY 2ND, THE HOUSE SUBSTITUTED THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE BACK INTO THE SENATE BILL, PASSED IT AND SENT IT OVER TO THE SENATE. AND THEN IT PASSED ON MAY 3RD, WHICH WAS 24 HOURS LATER. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE SENATORS ALL KNEW ON APRIL 9TH WHEN THEY PASSED IT WITHOUT WHEN THEY REMOVED THIS LANGUAGE FROM IT TO PASS IT, HOW THE CITIES FELT. BUT THE 24 HOUR SHIFT THAT THEY TOOK CARE OF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THIS BILL OR IF THE LEGISLATORS TOOK THE POSITION OF, WELL, I NEED TO VOTE YES FOR THE HURRICANE RELIEF, SO I CAN'T FIGHT THE FIGHT ON THAT BECAUSE I NEED THIS TO PASS, BECAUSE THE SESSION ENDS TOMORROW. OR IF IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL, LET'S GET THIS THING, SLIP IT IN 24 HOURS BEFORE THE SESSION IS OVER, SO NO ONE EVEN HAS TIME TO RESPOND TO IT AND PASS IT AND WALK OUT ON THE LAST DAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME IT'S HAPPENED. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO WAS THE PLASTIC STRAWS ISSUE. NO ONE REALLY CARED ABOUT PLASTIC STRAWS. IT WAS A MESSAGE OF THE FACT THAT THE STATE TOOK AWAY THE ABILITY FOR LOCALS TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T USE PLASTIC BAGS IN THE GROCERY STORES, OR THAT WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. AND SO WE JUST SLOWLY BUT SURELY EVERY YEAR ARE LOSING HOME RULE AUTHORITY, HOWEVER, THE MAKEUP OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS THAT WE ARE AN ACT OF THE LEGISLATURE. IN ORDER FOR STUART TO EXIST, THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO VOTE FOR US, JUST LIKE INDIANTOWN WAS CREATED A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEY THEY CREATED CITIES AND COUNTIES UNDER THE PRETEXT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ASSISTING THE STATE IN FULFILLING ITS MISSION. AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT THE STATE DECIDES THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD LOOK LIKE ORLANDO. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE ORLANDO, THEN YOU'RE NOT ABSORBING YOUR FAIR SHARE. BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE LAW THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE AS IT RELATES TO YOUR AMENDMENTS OR EAR REVIEWS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, IT GIVES US A MANDATE THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE AMEND OR REVIEW OUR COMP PLAN, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DEDICATE SUFFICIENT LAND TO MULTIFAMILY TO ABSORB THE NEXT TEN YEARS OF POPULATION GROWTH, AS PROJECTED BY THE BIEBER NUMBERS IN TALLAHASSEE, WHICH YOU KNOW, WAS A THOUSAND PEOPLE A DAY FOR THE STATE FOR THREE YEARS STRAIGHT. IT WOULD BE TEN CITIES OF STUART IF WE DID THAT. SO IT IS A IT'S A COMPLICATED BALANCE. AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW IF WE CAN WIN OR LOSE OR WHAT IT IS. BUT WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS AT SOME POINT, ENOUGH PEOPLE IN FLORIDA ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY IT, THAT THEY STOP ELECTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VOTING FOR IT. AND THE TRUTH IS, THAT IS THE KEY. WITH THE TRUTH IS WE VOTE LOCALLY FOR OUR STATE REPS. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ELECTED STATEWIDE. THEY'RE VOTED THEY'RE ELECTED LOCALLY. THE TRUTH, THOUGH, IS THAT OVER THE YEARS, WITHOUT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THERE WOULD BE MUCH MORE EROSION TO LOCAL HOME RULE. AND THEY CALCULATE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY CAN WIN AND WHAT THEY CAN'T AT ANY GIVEN YEAR IN ANY GIVEN TIME. BUT, I MEAN, WE'VE WATCHED 
          [02:00:02]
THIS CONSTANT YEAR BY YEAR BY YEAR EROSION OF HOME RULE. FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS WELL AWARE OF THAT. AND THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE WHATEVER THEY CAN. I KNOW THEY'RE AWARE AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE TRIED TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. YEAH. I JUST FOR ME IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING. IT'S FRUSTRATING. IT'S SO FRUSTRATING. CERTAINLY GOING IN OUR DIRECTION. IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ALL OF US. RIGHT. TO MIKE'S POINT, SHORT OF PUBLICLY SHAMING TOBY, GAIL AND JOHN AND BETTER, THEY'VE ALREADY VOTED. SO BETTER PEOPLE RUNNING. THERE'S NO LEVERAGE. THERE'S NO LEVERAGE. 
          THERE'S NO THERE'S NO GROUP THAT GETS IS GOING TO GET TOGETHER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CARE. 
          WELL, JUST LIKE WE WOULD CHANGE OUR LEGISLATORS, THAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE, IS THAT ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED WOULD DO THE SAME, BECAUSE THAT LEGISLATURE HAS TO CHANGE BASICALLY, AT THE SAME TIME, NO ONE'S COMING TO SAVE US. WE'VE GOT TO DO IT. 
          IT'S US. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A TOWN IN MADISON IS THE NAME OF THE TOWN. I THINK THAT'S ALL NORTH FLORIDA TOWN. YEAH. SMALL NORTH FLORIDA TOWN NEAR TALLAHASSEE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE JUST REFUSED. I GUESS A FEW DEVELOPERS HAD GONE UP, TRIED TO DO WITH LOCAL, AND THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING YOUR APPLICATION. AND IS THAT THE TOWN THAT THE GOVERNOR REMOVED THE COMMISSIONERS FROM OFFICE? I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THERE THERE'S ALSO THAT DID HAPPEN. THERE'S A TOWN THAT DIDN'T DO IT. AND THE GOVERNOR REMOVED THE COMMISSIONERS FROM OFFICE. BUT THE OTHER THING IS LIKE THEN THAT LEAVES US TO JUST DO RIBBON CUTTINGS. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S SADLY AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU REFUSE THE REMEDY IN THE STATUTE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER SUES YOU AND YOU GET TO PAY MILLIONS TO THEM. YEAH. 
          SO AGAIN, TO THE POINT YOU NEED NEW BUTTS AND SEATS. YES. LEVERAGE. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO FIND IT'S HARD TO FIND THOSE BUTTS YOU WANT. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT A FIGHT, FIGHT THAT FIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING, COMMISSIONER CLARK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT AGAIN? I'LL BE OFF TOPIC FROM THE LIVE LOCAL DISCUSSION. BUT COMMISSIONER JIMMY BROUGHT UP SOMETHING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF LIVE LOCAL. AND I. EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAD A PRIVATE MEETING OR HAVE A MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER COLLINS BECAUSE. AND YEAH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE CAN'T DO IT. IT'D BE, IT'D BE, IT'D BE, IT'D BE UNETHICAL. BUT LET ME, LET ME BRING LET ME BRING THIS UP. I'M ASKING THIS. LET ME ASK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK FROM WHAT YOU SAID, I. AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER COLLINS, YOU CAN TELL ME IF THOSE ARE WHAT LOOK LIKE WHEN ALL THIS IS SHOWN. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING EVEN BEFORE THE ZIP, YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FLAT ZONING. YOU WANTED, LIKE NO DEVELOPERS TO DO NEGOTIATIONS WITH PUDS AND STUFF, TO HAVE THE ZONING SO THAT IT'S PREDICTABLE THAT PEOPLE KNOW STRAIGHT WHAT THEY STRAIGHT ZONE. THAT'S IT. NOT FLAT STRAIGHT. AND HE MENTIONED THAT AND YOU KIND OF MENTIONED THIS. AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GO TOWARDS SOMETHING AND WE THINK WE'RE THERE AND WE HAVE DIVERGENT POINTS. BUT THAT THAT KIND OF CAME UP. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE STATE IS KIND OF SAYING SOMETHING. WE SAY THAT IT'S TAKEN AWAY HOME RULE. BUT THEN IF WE HAD SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THIS WAS MULTIFAMILY, THAT WAS THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CODES ARE FOR. THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT HE HAD. HE HAD ASKED FOR AT SOME POINT. AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT THAT IS, IS, IS UNATTAINABLE AT THIS POINT. 
          YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BUT AND AGAIN, SAINT LUCIE COUNTY DOES ALLOW FOR OVER TEN STORIES. I THINK THEY HAVE UP TO LIKE 22 STORIES NOW OUT ON HUTCHINSON ISLAND. AND SO HAVING SOMETHING ELSE ON THAT SIDE OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND, ON IN THE CAUSEWAY THERE, IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S THEY'VE, THEY'VE WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND, THANK GOODNESS FOR ANYBODY TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH, FORT PIERCE IS REFERRING TO IT AS DUBAI. OH, DUBAI. THE MAYOR IS VERY UNHAPP. AND I DON'T BLAME HIM. THAT'S HER, THAT'S HER. LINDA HUDSON. 
          LINDA. YEAH. ALRIGHT. SO THANK YOU, I JUST ANY OTHER COMMENTS BACK TO THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE. MY, MY COMMENTS WERE AROUND REALLY STARTING TO DISCUSS PUBLICLY A LAURA I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THAT WE'LL HOLD ACCOUNTABLE DEVELOPERS TO THAT 40% OF UNITS. 
          YES I AFTER SPEAKING WITH YOU, I SPOKE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TOLD HIM THAT I WANTED HIM TO ADD THAT WHEN HE GETS BACK FROM HIS VACATION, TO ADD THAT AS A AN AGENDA ITEM, AND WE CAN AGAIN HAVE THE COMMISSION START LIKE JUST ADDING THINGS TO IT AND REVIEWING IT AND UPDATING IT ACCORDINGLY. IT CAN BE VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO, LAURA, AGREEMENT. NOW YOU KNOW THAT'S 
          [02:05:01]
GOING TO BE THIS IS A HEATED TOPIC NOW IN THE LEAGUE BECAUSE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS YOU HAVE LEFT, OPPORTUNITIES THEY HAVE. YEAH. 
          YEAH. SO WE'LL GET A GOOD WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE A GOOD ONE UNTIL IT'S PREEMPTED. THAT'S RIGHT. AND CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT I YOU KNOW ON THAT ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THEY SHOULD PROVIDE. I'D LIKE IT TO BE NOT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPORT THAT WOULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HOUSING THEY HAD 40% WHAT HOUSING THEY GET. THAT'S SOMETHING THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR. HE SHOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE IT. HE OR SHE. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEY THEY WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT DOES IT. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YEAH, WELL, THEY CAN DO IT AND THEY CAN PAY FOR IT. HOW'S THAT? SEE NO OTHER ITEMS FOR
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