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AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. CHAIR. LOREEN HERE. VICE CHAIR.
PETERSON HERE. BOARD MEMBER. BOWLES HERE. BOARD MEMBER. BROMFIELD. BOARD MEMBER. STROM.
HERE. BOARD MEMBER. VOGEL. ALRIGHT. LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT. THANK
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YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THREE 13 2025. MOVE! APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. GREAT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON-AGENDA RELATED ITEMS? NOPE. OKAY. COMMENTS BY THE BOARD ON[2. FLOOR & DECOR WALL SIGN VARIANCE REQUEST LOCATED AT 2130 SE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ]
NON-AGENDA RELATED ITEMS. NOPE. ALRIGHTY. WE'RE ON TO THE ACTION ITEMS. ALL RIGHT, I NEED TO START THE QUASI JUDICIAL. OR DO YOU NEED TO SWEAR US IN FOR THAT? NO, NO, I WON'T BE. IT'LL TELL WHO WE'RE SWEARING IN. BUT YOU ALL ARE NOT BEING SWORN IN, OKAY? AN APPLICANT AND STAFF WHO WILL BE TESTIFYING WILL BE SWORN IN. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST UP, IT IS FLOOR AND DECOR WALL SIGN VARIANCE REQUESTS LOCATED AT 2130 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. DO THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? NO. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. ALL THOSE GIVING TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IN THIS HEARING WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF I MAY JUST BRIEFLY SAY SOMETHING FOR THE RECORD, OF COURSE. SO, MEMBERS, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. AND IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, YOU'RE STEPPING OUT OF YOUR NORMAL ROLE AND INTO MORE OF A JUDICIAL ROLE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A DETERMINATION BY APPLYING THE EXISTING LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS TO THE FACTS PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AND TESTIMONY NEEDS TO BE UNDER OATH. THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT OCCURRED PRIOR TO THIS HEARING.AND JUST BE CLEAR THAT THAT WOULD BE COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THIS HEARING, AND IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO QUESTION ANY COMMUNICATIONS YOU'VE HAD. AND THAT COULD ALSO INCLUDE A SITE VISIT. IF YOU DID A SITE VISIT TO THE PLACE TO CHECK OUT WHAT YOU WERE VOTING ON, YOU NEED TO DISCLOSE THAT AS WELL. AND EVERYBODY SWORN IN. SO THEN WE CAN MOVE ON FROM HERE. OKAY, GREAT. OTHER THAN DRIVING BY ON THE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, NORMAL TRAFFIC, I HAVE NOT DONE A SITE VISIT. OKAY. LET'S. CAN I ASK THE CITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, PLEASE PRESENT YOUR TESTIMONY, INCLUDING ANY EVIDENCE IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE CASE. YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODY KUGLER. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A VARIANCE REQUEST FROM FLOOR AND DECOR, SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION SIX, DASH 6.11.17, TO ALLOW FOR TWO WALL SIGNS TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM COMBINED SIGN FACE AREA OF 100FT■!S PER OCCUPANT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2130 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE GOODWILL STORE. ON JUNE 4TH, 2025, NOTIFICATION LETTERS WERE MAILED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN 300FT OF THE PROPOSED PETITION AND TWO SIGNS NOTIFYING TODAY'S MEETING WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, AND THE VARIANCE PETITION DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY LEGAL AD. THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED, IS LOCATED AT 2130 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHEAST CENTRAL PARKWAY AND SOUTHEAST MONTEREY ROAD. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ZONED B2 BUSINESS GENERAL ZONING DESIGNATION. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PARCEL IS COMMERCIAL. ON THAT. THIS IS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROJECT HISTORY. AS YOU KNOW, THIS USED TO BE AT ONE POINT THE WINN-DIXIE, AND THEN THEY CHOPPED IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND PUT THE GOODWILL, WHICH WAS THE LAST TENANT. AND NOW THE FOREIGN DECOR HAS TAKEN OVER BOTH UNITS WHERE THE WINN-DIXIE AND THE GOODWILL STORE WAS THE PREVIOUS TENANT. ON MARCH 26TH, 2025, THE CITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR APPROVED A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FLOOR AND DECOR FOR AN EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR RENOVATION
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FOR ON THE 55,530FT■!S, ONE STOY COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO BE UTILIZED FOR RETAIL, OFFICE, AND INTERIOR STORAGE. USES. THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AND INSTALLING A ROLL UP GARAGE DOOR ON THE NORTHWEST BUILDING FACADE. THE ADDITION OF FIVE PARKING SPACES FOR CUSTOMER PICKUP AND LOADING, REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING PORTICO SHARE CANOPY, LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS. STORMWATER. STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE NORTHWEST BUILDING FACADE, AND THE RELOCATION OF ADA PARKING SPACES ADJACENT TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, STATED THE FOLLOWING. ALL SIGNAGE MUST COMPLY WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS OUTLINED IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 61117. A MAXIMUM OF TWO WALL SIGNS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN A MAXIMUM COMBINED AREA OF 100FT■!S PER OCCUPANT. THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS OUTLINED IN THE CHART THEY ARE REQUESTING TO LOOK AT OPTION DIFFERENT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE FRONT FACADE. THE FIRST OPTION IS THE. THE PROPOSED IS TO HAVE 185FT■!, ONE 85.94FT■!S. THE REQUIRED IS 100, SO THEY'RE ASKING TO EXCEED 85.94FT■!S. IF YOU GO WITH OPTIN TWO, THEY'RE ASKING THAT SIGN TO BE AT 330.46FT■!S. AGAIN, THE MINIMUM IS 100FT■!S, AND THE REQUEST WOULD EXCEED 230 40, 230.46FT■!S. THE SECOND SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION. AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PICKING UP AND LOADING FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO GO PICK UP THEIR SUPPLIES IS 12.77. AGAIN, THE TOTAL MAXIMUM SQUARE FEET FOR ALL SIGNS IS 100FT■!S.O THEY ALREADY EXCEEDED WITH THEIR FRONT WALL SIGNS. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL 12.77FT■!. THIS IS JUST COMING FROM OUT OF THE CODE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT.THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE B2 DISTRICT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MATRIX STATES FOR B2 ZONING DESIGNATION, THAT NOT MORE THAN TWO SIGNS PER OCCUPANT. AND THEN WHICH THE TENANT DOES NOT VIOLATE TODAY OR IS NOT ASKING FOR SEEKING ANY VARIANCE FROM THEIR. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO SEEK THE VARIANCES IS FOR THE OVER 100 SQUARE FOOT. THIS IS OPTION ONE.
THIS JUST SHOWS HOW IT'S PLACED ON THE BUILDING AT 185.94FT■!S, THIS IS THE FRONT FACADE FACING THE PARKING LOT. THIS. THIS BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 330FTS BROUGHT BACK FROM US ONE. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A RENDERING SHOWING THAT THERE'S VERY MATURE TREES BLOCKING A LOT OF THIS SIGNAGE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT FELT THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE. OPTION TWO, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS OPTION TWO. AND IT'S AT THE 330.46FT■!S. AND THN THIS WOULD BE THE SECONDARY SIGN ON THE NORTH SIDE. IN REVIEWING OF THIS APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE, THE CITY OF ATLANTA, THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT THEY MUST MEET IN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP. AND THESE ARE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY RESPONDED AND GAVE JUSTIFICATION. I THINK ONE OF THEIR ONE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THEY WERE.
THAT THEY WERE ASKING WAS THE TREES BLOCK MAJORITY OF THE THIS BUILDING FROM THE, FROM US ONE OR FEDERAL HIGHWAY. SO THESE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH WHICH WAS WHICH WAS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED OPTION ONE FOR THE WALL SIGN LOCATED ON EAST ELEVATION, AND THE SECONDARY WALL SIGN LOCATED ON THE NORTH ELEVATION. AGAIN, IT IS IT IS UP TO THE BOARD.
THEY CAN GO WITH OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A GOOGLE EARTH IMAGE SHOWING WHERE THAT SIGN WOULD BE. IF. SO, YOU CAN SEE FUJIYAMA, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S MATURE TREES ALL THROUGH THIS AREA WHERE THIS SIGN WOULD BE LOCATED IN THIS SHOPPING PLAZA. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. AND I ACTUALLY DID CONDUCT A SITE VISIT JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN PERSON. IN IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF MATURE TREES, WHICH WE DO WANT TO MAINTAIN. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MYSELF OR THE APPLICANT, OKAY. FOR THE
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APPLICANT PRESENTATION YOU MAY NOW GIVE TESTIMONY AND CALL ANY WITNESSES PLEASE. AS YOU TESTIFY, PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE RECORD. STAFF, DO WE GET TO QUESTION. OH, SORRY.SORRY. YES. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES I DO. OH OKAY. SORRY. SORRY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WE'RE KIND OF BACK TO THE IDEA FROM THE LAST MEETING TO, LIKE, WHY ARE YOU RECOMMENDING ONE VERSUS THE OTHER OR EVEN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS? BECAUSE STAFF DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND IN THIS YOU ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. SO WE TYPICALLY THE JUSTIFICATION WITH VARIANCES WE DO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. OH WE ALWAYS DO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DO. UNLESS THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT, YOU KNOW THAT STAFF DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. BUT THIS ONE WE DO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. SO SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE YOU DON'T MAKE IT. SOMETIMES IT IS OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO INVOLVE FOR THE VARIANCE. THAT'S NOT JUST INCLUDES OUR DEPARTMENT THAT THEY MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST AS WELL. OKAY.
AND THEN I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS, I MEAN, I, I BOUGHT A HOUSE WITH ALL THESE MATURE OAK TREES AS WELL. AND IT WAS TOTALLY BLOCKING THE HOUSE, BUT WE JUST LIFTED, NOT LIFTED THE TREES, BUT LIFTED THE CANOPY SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE HOUSE. AND IT WASN'T QUITE SO COVERED OVER. WHY ARE WE NOT TRIMMING SOME TREES INSTEAD OF ALLOWING BIGGER SIGNS? OR WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE A RECOMMENDATION? I ALSO DON'T SUPPORT TAKING THE TREES DOWN, BUT WHY WOULD WE NOT LIFT A CANOPY? OR IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? OR WHY WOULD THE STAFF LOOK AT THAT AT ALL? THEY ALWAYS THEY TYPICALLY DO TRIMMINGS. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE TREES ARE SO LARGE. THE OAK TREES ARE VERY LARGE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF OAK TREES AND THE PALM TREES MIXED INTO IT. AS YOU KNOW, WITH PALM TREES, YOU CANNOT JUST TRIM THE TOPS. YOU HAVE TO LIMB THEM UP. SO I, I DIDN'T ASK THE APPLICANT THAT, BUT IT SEEMS INSTEAD OF A VARIANCE, HAVING THE LANDOWNER THE NOT THE TENANT BUT THE LANDLORD ACCOMMODATE THEM BY TRIMMING THE TREES AND MAKING IT MORE VISIBLE THAN THE CITY, GIVING THEM A VARIANCE, AND THEN MAYBE A SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR OTHER BUSINESSES TO ALSO WANT TO DOUBLE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF WE'RE ADDING THE 185 TO THE 12, WE'RE ALMOST DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. AND IF THEY GET OPTION ONE, WHICH IS WHAT THEIR THEIR PREFERENCES, THEY'RE TRIPLING IT WHEN YOU ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER. SO OR I FORGET WHICH ONE THE SMALLER IN WHICH. YES. YEAH OKAY. IS THE BIGGER ONE. YEAH. WELL WE'RE TRIPLING OR DOUBLING WHICH BOTH SEEMS HUGE WHEN MAYBE WE COULD JUST LIFT THE CANOPY AND NOT MAKE THE VARIANCE. BUT I JUST WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS PURSUED AT ALL. AND THEN DO YOU KNOW THE SIGN LIKE OKAY, SO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE TAKEN TWO SPACES AND COMBINED THEM INTO ONE. SO THE SIGN SIZE FOR SAY, GOODWILL WOULD HAVE BEEN SMALLER BECAUSE THAT WAS ONLY ONE PART OF THE PARCEL. IS THAT AM I CORRECT IN THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BASICALLY HAVE A HOLD ON OKAY, THE VARIANCE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE SIGN SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PETITIONER. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO? I ACTUALLY DID DOWNLOAD THE IMAGE OF THE GOODWILL. SO IF YOU CAN SEE THE SPACE WHERE THAT DELINEATION OF THE LINE WHERE IT SAYS 25.6, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH PART OF THE WHOLE GOODWILL RIGHT THERE. BUT THEY HAD ONLY TAKEN OUT HALF THE SPACE AT WINN-DIXIE WAS. AND WINN-DIXIE SIGNED WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WAY BACK WHEN BEFORE WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, THEIR SIGN WAS PROBABLY QUADRUPLE. OH, OKAY.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT OF REFERENCE. THE OTHER THE OTHER ISSUE IS A LOT OF OUR SIGNAGE, AS YOU SEE ALONG THE CORRIDOR, AND I'M PRETTY SURE MISTER CHAIR STROM WOULD BRING THIS UP. A LOT OF THE SIGNS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU SEE ALONG THERE ARE IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR THOSE WAIVERS IN LARGER SIGNS. AND ONE OF THEM WAS WALMART ASKED FOR LARGER SIGNS BECAUSE OF THE TREE CANOPIES AND THE SPEED ALONG SOUTHEAST FEDERAL OR FEDERAL HIGHWAY IN GENERAL. SO THIS ONE IS STRAIGHT ZONING, SO THEY HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO GET THAT WAIVER. SO STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE OPTION ONE TO GIVE THEM SOME ABILITY FOR SIGNAGE. OKAY. THIS SPACE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THEY'VE ALREADY MODIFIED IT AND BEAUTIFIED IT. AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO GRANT GRAND OPENING IN JULY. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. SO JODY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT WAS MY I ASKED YOU THIS MORNING HOW COMMON THIS IS TO EXCEED 100FT■!S. AND I KNOW S THE LPA FOR PUDS WE'VE APPROVED ADDITIONAL SIGNS SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING, BUT I FORGOT. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO DEFER FOR A MINUTE. DO WE HAVE ANY
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OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JODY BEFORE WE HAVE THE PETITIONER PRESENT? ALL RIGHT. CAN THE PETITIONER COME FORWARD, PLEASE? PROBABLY WITH HER. JUST SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THEN GIVE THE ADDRESS OVER THERE, OKAY? RICKY TORRES. OH, NO. THE RECORD ONE ON MY ADDRESS. YEAH, IT'S FOR THE RECORD. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. OKAY. MY ADDRESS IS 2218 OAKMONT DRIVE, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA. OKAY. 33404. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND.HELLO, EVERYONE. TO REPRESENT THE FLOOR DECOR THAT JODY WAS NICE ENOUGH TO PUT TOGETHER AND ASSIST US FROM THE VERY START IN TRYING TO GET SOME, YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY SOME, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO SIGNS. AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WERE SAYING THAT STAFF SUPPORTS OPTION ONE, BUT I THINK OUR CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT OF OPTION TWO, BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS SIGHT LINE THAT WE HAVE THERE IN REGARDS TO TREES AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE LANDLORD WOULD HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE BY MAINTAINING THE TREES FOR US TO HAVE VISIBILITY ON SIGNS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO FREESTANDING SIGNS OUT ON THE ROAD. THEY ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE TENANT SPACES. SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FLY BY AND NOT KNOW THAT FLOOR DECOR IS THERE UNLESS WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, SOME VISIBILITY IN REGARDS TO SIGNS. SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY'LL KNOW FLOOR DECOR IS THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT GO UP TO PORT SAINT LUCIE AND I MYSELF TO THE WORD WILL GET AROUND IN THIS SMALL TOWN. US ONE VERY BUSY. YEAH.
IT'S VERY. YEAH, VERY BUSY. LIKE I DID A SITE VISIT THE OTHER DAY TO PUT THE SIGN UP AND I LOOKED, I WAS LIKE, WOW, IF WE PUT A SIGN THERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT ON THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST WALKING. LIKE YOU HAVE TO WALK UP TO THE BUILDING AND GO LIKE THAT. OH, THERE IT IS.
YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT THEY WERE SHOOTING PREFER AN OPTION TWO IF THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A CONSIDERATION OKAY. THERE'S OPTION TWO HIGHER THAN THE LETTERS ARE JUST BY TWO FEET I THINK THEY GO FROM 5 TO 7FT IN IN HEIGHT. AND THE SPAN IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. I WASN'T SURE IF THEY WERE GOING HIGHER. NO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SAY, SENATOR, THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD UNIFORMLY. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT TOO LOW OR TOO HIGH. YEAH. THE RATIO WOULD LOOK VERY WEIRD. JODY, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? YOU HAD A GOOD RENDERING. CAN YOU SHOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AGAIN? SURE. SO THIS IS OPTION ONE OKAY. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS CENTERED IN THE SPACE. AND THEN THIS IS OPTION TWO OKAY. JODY HOW DOES THAT LAY OUT WITH THE FUJIYAMA IN FRONT. WHERE IS THAT COMPARED TO THE FRONT OF THE SIGNAGE. IS IT. IT'S OFF TO THE SIDE. OFF TO THE SIDE. SO THIS. OH YEAH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S LIKE OFF TO THE SIDE.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT HAS THE LITTLE FOOD, THE SPORK AND EVERYTHING RIGHT UP FRONT. YEP.
THEIR BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY TO THE SIDE TO THE, TO THE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE FROM THE ACTUAL BUILDING OR FROM THEIR THEIR BUILDING TO THE STREET. IT'S ALMOST 400FT■!S. IS ALMOST 400FT AWAY FROM SOUTHEAST FEDERAL. AND YOU CAN SEE THE TREE LINES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THERE. THAT BLOCKS A LOT OF THEIR VIEW. I KNOW, AT LEAST FOR STAFF. WELL, SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, HOW COMMON IS IT FOR YOU TO GET SIGNED VARIANCES IN THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? SO I DID GO DO SOME RESEARCH, AND A LOT OF THE SIGNS WERE DONE IN THE 80S AND 90S, A LOT OF VARIANCES AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SIGN CODE. AND THEN THEY ESTABLISHED A SIGN CODE BACK IN THE LATE 90S AND THEN HAVE MODIFIED SINCE TO MEET SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS. BUT A LOT OF THEM HAPPENED IN THE 80S AND 90S WHEN I DO A LOT. WHEN I DID MY RESEARCH THIS MORNING. ALSO, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ALONG THE US ONE CORRIDOR ARE IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THEY'VE RECEIVED ALL THOSE VARIANTS THROUGH THE TA THROUGH THE PUD. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS PETITIONER, OR DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER? I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONER. YES. WHEN FLORIDA CORPS SIGNED THE LEASE, DID THEY? I KNOW IF YOU'RE A RETAIL, THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS WHAT WHAT ARE MY SIGNAGE OPTIONS? SO THEY LOOKED AT THAT.
THEY KNEW THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. OH ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WHEN THEY DID THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THEY ALSO KNEW ABOUT WHAT THEY ALLOWED. AND THIS IS THE REASON
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WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GET, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SIGNAGE TO, YOU KNOW, SO YOU WERE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU GOT THE VARIANCE OR NOT, BECAUSE YOU KNEW IT WAS AN ISSUE, THAT IT WAS A POTENTIAL. NO. YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE CITY OF STUART, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET. AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS HERE, YOU KNOW, SO HAVE A STANDARD AND WE TRULY RESPECT THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GO BIG OR GO HOME. BUT THEY. YEAH. AND THIS IS THEIR STAYING HOME YOU KNOW. SO IF I MAY INTERVENE JUST A QUICK MOMENT SO I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE GOT TO THIS LEVEL AND TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. THESE ARE ONE OF THOSE APPLICANTS THAT CAME THROUGH THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING LAST YEAR. AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION PUT A AS THEY WERE GOING TO SUBMIT, THE CITY COMMISSION DID A ZONING IN PROGRESS. SO WE WERE NO LONGER ABLE TO TAKE THEIR APPLICATION. AND THEN THE BOARD INCLINED ALLOWED US TO START TAKING COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS. SO THEY WERE ALREADY ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEHIND ON THE ACTUAL BUILD OUT.SO WE HAD TO DO IT IN. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO PIECEMEAL IT, AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO COME FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE SIGNAGE.
OKAY, SO YOU'VE BEEN PUT THROUGH THE WRINGER. IT'S YEAH, BE QUIET WITH D-DAY. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE LIKE THE 11TH HOUR TRYING TO GET THIS DONE SO WE CAN BUILD A SIGN TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT UP. YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GET A PERMIT. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR GUYS ARE ON STANDBY, YOU KNOW, AND IS. BUT. SO YOU GUYS ARE HERE IN SUPPORT BUT AREN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK. OH YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OH YOU'RE GOOD. YES. ARE YOU. I'M GOOD. ARE YOU GUYS GOOD? THANK YOU. HOLD ON ONE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YES. DO YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OR HAVE YOU DONE A PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE ROAD? LIKE THE VIEW THAT A PERSON COMING BY IN A CAR, LIKE A FIRST PERSON VIEW. LIKE SOMETHING LIKE WHAT SHE SHOWED? YEAH, WE HAVE NOT. I APOLOGIZE, I CAN GET ONE TO YOU, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS YOU NEED IT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE NOT DONE THAT. THANK YOU. FIRST PERSON PERSPECTIVE. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS BY MAKING A BIGGER SIGN. OR IS IT JUST A WOW FACTOR? IT'S A BIG SIGN. SO IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING I WANT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BIGGER THE BETTER. THEY ALWAYS SAY, RIGHT, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ERNESTO CANELA. WITH DYNAMIC ENGINEERING, WE ARE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR FLORIDA DECOR. MY ADDRESS IS 100 NORTHEAST FIFTH AVENUE, DELRAY BEACH, FLORIDA. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AND I THINK THIS ANSWERS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BEFORE. ONE ABOUT ELEVATING THE CANOPY AND THE OTHER ONE, WHAT MR. BOWLES WAS JUST ASKING IN TERMS OF ESSENTIALLY. POINT OF VIEW PHOTOGRAPH FROM FROM THE ROAD DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT. BUT I GUESS ONE, ONE THING AT A TIME. LET ME TALK ABOUT THE CANOPY FIRST. SO IN THE B2 ZONING DESIGNATION, THERE'S A HEIGHT LIMIT AS TO HOW TALL OUR BUILDING CAN BE. NOT TO MENTION THAT IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE FAA OR. THE FEDERAL AVIATION AGENCY ZONE OF INFLUENCE. SO THERE'S SEVERAL LIMITATIONS, NOT ONLY TO HOW HIGH THE BUILDING CAN BE, BUT HOW HIGH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE ARE USING, THE CRANES THAT WE'RE USING TO MINE TO MOUNT THE SIGNS CAN BE. SO THAT WILL ALSO TAKE PART IN WHAT THAT LIMITATION IS FOR THE CANOPY HEIGHT. OKAY. IN TERMS OF A VIEW FROM FROM THE STREET. AND THIS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE. AND YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT NOW ON THE SCREEN THAT THE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING FACADE TO THE MAIN ROAD IS ABOUT, WHAT, ALMOST 400FT■!S, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT.
JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA, A RULE OF THUMB FOR SIGNAGE IS THAT FOR EVERY TEN FEET OF VISIBILITY DISTANCE, YOU WANT YOUR LETTERS TO BE AT LEAST ONE INCH. SO IN IN A CASE WHERE YOU'RE ALMOST 400FT JUST TO THE JUST TO THE INNERMOST TRAFFIC LANE, YOU WOULD WANT SIGNAGE THAT HAS LETTERING THAT IS BETWEEN 4 AND 5FT. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW FOR THE SMALLEST VERSION, THE 185 SQUARE FOOT VERSION. THOSE LETTERS ARE THREE FEET TALL, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT IS TYPICALLY EXPECTED OF THIS KIND OF SIGNAGE. AND ALSO TO SORT OF VOUCH FOR THE BIGGER SIGNAGE THAN THE 100FT■!S ALLOWED PER CODE. IT'S ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OBVIOUSLY THE ANCHOR DEVELOPMENT. THE ANCHOR TENANT FOR THIS SITE, AND. ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN IN FRONT AND IT OBVIOUSLY IDENTIFIES THAT THE STORE IS ON SITE, HAVING A LARGER SIGN ALSO HELPS WITH DIRECTION ONCE ONCE, YOU KNOW,
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POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS COME INTO THE COMING TO THE SITE AND THEY CIRCULATE AND FIND THE STORE, IT HELPS WITH SORT OF IDENTIFYING WHERE YOU CAN PARK. IT'S OVERALL, IT GIVES YOU GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO DIRECT YOURSELF AND GUIDE YOURSELF TO THE STORE. AND IT CREATES THE PROMINENCE AS THE LIKE I SAID, ANCHOR TENANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS. WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR OPTION ONE, AND AS WELL AS THE PICK UP SIGN ON THE NORTH END. I GUESS IDEALLY WOULD WOULD WANT A VARIANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR BOTH OPTIONS, BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE'RE PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH OPTION ONE AND THE SECOND SIGN. JUST HAVE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE WE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE IN THAT SENSE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT INTERFERENCE WITH AN FAA LIMITATION, RIGHT? YES. SO WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM FAA AND WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION ON RECORD. AND I THINK WE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE ELEVATION CONSTRAINTS. SO THERE'S NO ISSUE EITHER FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT OR THE TEMPORARY CRANES THAT ARE GOING TO THAT ARE USED FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING. I'M SURE THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE OKAY. IT'S THERE. BUT THE TEMPORARY CRANE, I WASN'T TOO SURE WHAT THE THING WAS THERE, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS GET A WAIVER TEMPORARILY WHILE USING IT. YEAH, YEAH, WE MADE A TEMPORARY. THE TEMPORARY CRANE REQUEST THROUGH FAA, AND THAT WAS APPROVED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS. NO. OKAY.THANK YOU EVERYONE. YES. MARILYN BRENNAN, I'M WITH COMING SIGNS FOR THE ACTUAL MANUFACTURER THERE. OUR CLIENT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE TWO OPTIONS THAT ARCHITECTURALLY, IT DOES FILL THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, MORE EQUALLY, WE DO LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE. AND TRUST ME, IT'S DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE. SO WE ARE ALWAYS REINVENTING. SOMETIMES WE TAKE THAT TAG, LONG, LONG TAGLINE OFF AND HAVE TO SEPARATE IT. THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP WITHIN THE LOGO BECAUSE IT. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SHOPPING THE STORE AND I'M SURE THEY'RE VERY HAPPY. NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT FLOOR AND DECOR HAS WITHIN THEIR STORE, SO HAVING THE WOOD, STONE AND TILE IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR A NEW BUSINESS WHO I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE MIGHT BE 11 OR 12 MILES AWAY, BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW WE KIND OF SOMETIMES SHOP LOCALLY, SO THAT IS ACTUALLY ADDING TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE ACTUAL SIGN. SO IT'S BEEFING IT UP EVEN MORE FOR THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO I ACTUALLY THINK WHEN LOOKING AT THE TWO ELEVATIONS, THAT THE BIGGER ONE ACTUALLY LOOKS BETTER IN THAT LARGE, YOU KNOW, AREA THAT WINN-DIXIE WAS IN, IT'S A PRETTY BIG FASCIA THERE AND THAT SIGN BAND. SO I WOULD REALLY KIND OF IF WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THAT ROUTE, THE DIFFERENCE OVERALL IN THE VIEW, I DON'T THINK IS THAT NEGLIGIBLE, EVEN THOUGH THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GROTESQUE AND OUT OF RANGE FOR THAT. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU MY OPINION, I DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ABOUT THE BIGGEST SIGN. I HEAR A LOT OF THAT GO BIG OR GO HOME. IT'S REALLY NOT WE YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A LOT BIGGER SIGNAGE AND THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A 711 THAT HAD 17 SIGNS ON THE BUILDING. I'M LIKE, IT'S AWFUL. IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, SIGN FOR A LITTLE INSIDE RESTAURANT. BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE NORM FOR THIS ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION AND THE FACT THAT WE NORMALLY PUT DECOR CUSTOMER PICKUP ON THE SIDE OR EVEN SACRIFICING THAT BECAUSE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE THAT BRANDED AS WELL. SO WE'VE REMOVED THAT AND TRY TO CONSERVE AS MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE FRONT. I THINK THE LARGE ONE ACTUALLY FITS THAT SIGN AREA BETTER. SO THAT'S ALL MY PERSONAL OPINION OF 16 YEARS DOING THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTION? OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE DISCUSSION? I WILL GO FIRST. I AM VERY MUCH I THINK, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I SEE WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE A BIT OF A VARIANCE FROM WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE, BUT I THINK THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS PROBABLY, IN MY OPINION, FULFILLS THE NEED.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ABOUT IT? I TEND TO AGREE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE BETTER. AND ACTUALLY PERSONALLY I THINK IT WOULD BE IN BETTER TASTE THAN THIS GLARING BIG SIGN. YEAH, I GET MY COMMENT WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THE
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MUNI CODE TODAY TO SEE WHAT IT SAID ABOUT LIKE, WHAT'S OUR GOALS HERE? AND I THINK SOME OF THE GOAL IS WHEN I WAS READING THE JUSTIFICATIONS BY THE APPLICANT, A LOT OF IT WAS TO INCREASE BUSINESS, TO INCREASE TRAFFIC. BUT OUR MUNI CODE IS NOT TO INCREASE SOMEBODY'S BUSINESS OR INCREASE SOMEBODY'S TRAFFIC OR INCREASE SOMEBODY'S VISIBILITY. IT'S FOR THE ESTHETIC QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN WE DO MAKE A VARIANCE, THERE USUALLY SHOULD BE A BENEFIT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, A LARGER SIGN I DON'T SEE IN ANY WAY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW WHAT FLOOR AND DECOR IS AND I'M VERY EXCITED YOU ALL ARE COMING.BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IT SAID IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SIGN, THE ESTHETIC QUALITY OF A BUILDING OR OF AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MATERIALLY AFFECTED BY ACHIEVING VISUAL HARMONY OF THE SIGNAGE ON OR ABOUT A STRUCTURE AS IT RELATES TO THE ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING AND ITS ADJACENT SURROUNDINGS. IN ADDITION TO THE LIMITATIONS ON SIGNS IMPOSED ELSEWHERE IN THIS CODE, THE FOLLOWING ESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS MUST BE MET, AND ONE OF THEM IS SCALE AND CONFORMITY, AND THIS SCALE IS TRIPLE OR DOUBLE, AND IT DOESN'T CONFORM. SO AND I DON'T REALLY SEE. THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY TO INCREASE THE SIGNS. I MEAN, I LIVED IN CORAL SPRINGS FOR A BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MCDONALD'S THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE GOLDEN ARCHES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ALLOW IT. AND THEY HAVE A HUGE TREE CANOPY AT ALL THEIR PLAZAS. AND PEOPLE FIND MCDONALD'S AND THEY'LL FIND FLOOR AND DECOR. AND I THINK IT JUST WILL CONTINUE TO JUNK UP THE US ONE CORRIDOR. IT'S ALREADY WE HAVE SO MANY SIGNS.
THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE. I DIDN'T COUNT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO DRIVE, BUT I DID DO A DRIVE BY AS WELL. AND THEY ARE ON THE MONUMENT SIGNS WHERE IT SAYS FLOOR AND DECOR, AND THEY ARE THE LARGEST TENANT THERE, AND THEY DO STAND OUT EVEN WITH THEIR COLORING AND THE RED SIGN AND ALL THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T I DON'T SEE HOW I COULD SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. I COULD SEE THE BUILDING AS I'M DRIVING BY. I COULD SEE THE MONUMENT SIGNS ALONG THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT A VARIANCE IS WARRANTED OR THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW IT. WOULD. I ALSO AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE PICKUP SIGN ON THE SIDE. SO THE SMALLER SIGN WHICH STILL EXCEEDS CODE. AND THE PICKUP SIGN. YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. BUT COMBINED IT'S MORE THAN THE 180 COMBINED IT'S LIKE 200 RIGHT. YES. YEAH. SO IT'S 12 OR WHATEVER. YEAH. AND I THINK IF THIS WAS LIKE A RAMPANT ISSUE THAT THAT'D BE ONE THING. THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PROPERTY SET BACK FAR ENOUGH. AND MAYBE IT'S SYMPATHY. BUT KNOWING WHAT THEY'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ZONING AND PROGRESS, I'M WILLING TO AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SECOND? SECOND, CAN YOU PLEASE. OH, WAIT. NO. DO YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL? I'M TRYING TO I DO NOT.
OKAY, OKAY. WE'LL DO ROLL CALL. ALL IN FAVOR KIND OF THING. NO. YEAH YEAH, YEAH. OF COURSE, OF COURSE. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S NOTHING. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING SURE. I JUST RESTATE THE MOTION AND SECONDED. ALL RIGHT. SO. OR SHE RESTATE THE MOTION, I THINK I CAN. YEAH. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER STROM HAS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH OPTION ONE. THAT INCLUDES THE PICKUP SIGN AND THE OTHER, THE SECONDARY WALL SIGN ON THE NORTH ELEVATION. AND IT WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BOWLES. AND I CAN DO THE ROLL CALL WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY. YES, PLEASE. PERFECT. CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR? PETERSON. NO. CHAIR. LORRAINE. YES. BOARD MEMBER. BOWLES. YES. AND BOARD MEMBER. STROM. YES.
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PASSES FOUR. THREE. ONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF UPDATE THIS EVENING? I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE EDEN. MARS THAT YOU. THANK YOU. THE EDEN MARS THAT YOU VOTED IN ON MARCH FORMALLY WITHDRAWAL. I HAD HEARD THAT. THANK YOU. ALL* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.