[00:00:09] READY? OKAY. ROLL CALL. [CALL TO ORDER] CHAIR. BILL. HERE. VICE CHAIR. MOSER. BOARD MEMBER. JAMES HERE. BOARD MEMBER. LAUGHLIN. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. MANERA. BOARD MEMBER. SHARE. HERE. MEMBER. WHALEN. HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT. THE BILL WATTERSON. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS WANTED TO KNOW. SOME MIGHT KNOW THAT, SOME MIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE IF I CAN GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE OR SHOULD WE DO THAT FIRST? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THAT FIRST. OKAY. WE WE'VE GOT A NEW VICTIM. WELLS HERE. WE WANT TO FORMALLY WELCOME YOU TO THIS THIS ILLUSTRIOUS GROUP OF HARDWORKING VOLUNTEERS. SO. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE, MR. LOUGHLIN, IF YOU WOULD STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DID THE DEPUTY CLERK GIVE YOU A SCRIPT? OKAY, I HAVE THAT RIGHT HERE. SO IF YOU'LL REPEAT AFTER ME. OKAY, I WILLIAM LOUGHLIN, I, WILLIAM LOUGHLIN AM QUALIFIED UNDER THE. SORRY I AM QUALIFIED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. I'M QUALIFIED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, LAWS OF FLORIDA, LAWS OF FLORIDA, AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD. WE SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THAT I WILL WELL, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF AN ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. THE DUTIES OF AN ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER ON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER, ON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. SO HELP ME GOD. SO HELP ME GOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD JOB. WELCOME, WILL. WELCOME. SO. AND DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE FIRST MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? [APPROVAL OF AGENDA] SURE. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 3RD. SO I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF WITH ME, BUT CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES? I WOULD SUGGEST ONE CHANGE, BUT DO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST? WELL, IF. YEAH, WE IF YOU HAVE A CHANGE, THEN THAT YOU'D LIKE TO LET? LET US KNOW SO WE CAN CHANGE IT FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN YOU WOULD CHANGE IT WITH THE CONDITION. COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR. BECAUSE I JUST HEARD HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MINUTES, SO MAYBE HE DIDN'T READ THE MINUTES, BUT I DID. YES. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HE WAS RECORDED CORRECTLY OR DESCRIBED CORRECTLY. SO THE COMMENTS WERE AROUND THE FACT OF, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE, THE CRA MEETING AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT GROUP AND HOW WHETHER THAT WAS ALIGNED OR MISALIGNED WITH THE THE GOALS OF THIS GROUP. AND SO I THINK SOME THINGS ABOUT DOWNTOWN AND PARTICULARLY THE DUANE DUANE PLAN. SO IT WAS IT WAS RECORDED IN THERE THAT MAYBE THE CITY DOES NOT WANT THE OR THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THE DUANE PLAN. THAT'S HOW YOU WERE SORT OF RECORDED. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THAT WAS ACCURATE OR NOT. I GUESS IN READING THAT I WAS THINKING I WOULD SAY MAYBE THE OPPOSITE. I THINK THE CITIZENS DO LIKE IT BECAUSE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THERE, BUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THAT MEETING I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS CALLED, BUT THE HISTORICAL MEETING. STEWART. MEETING AT THE FLAGLER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OR WHATEVER, CELEBRATING THAT PLAN. NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THERE, A LOT OLDER THAN I AM. SO MAYBE MAYBE THERE ARE SOME NEWER FOLKS HERE THAT MAYBE MIGHT HAVE A VIEW THAT IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMMUNITY VERY MUCH APPRECIATES WHAT HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN STUART. WHETHER THAT'S THE DUANY PLAN OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT, BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT IT ACTUALLY IS PART OF THE DUANE PLAN. AND SO I THINK I WOULD SAY THE RESIDENTS SEEMED TO EMBRACE AND ENJOY AND CELEBRATE THE IMPACTS OF HIS PLAN. THAT'S ALL. AND I THINK I DID I DID SAY THAT, AND I AND I DID MEAN IT THAT WAY. MAYBE, MAYBE THE CURRENT PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN STUART DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE DUANY PLAN. AND WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THAT CURRENTLY AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AND THE CRA LEVEL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ZONING THAT'S TAKING PLACE HAS MOVED TOWARDS NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S MOVED TOWARDS DISTRIBUTED NEIGHBORHOODS, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. THE DUANY PLAN IS A WALKABILITY PLAN. IT'S A MIXED USE, MULTIPLE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. YOU CAN LIVE UPSTAIRS AND WORK DOWNSTAIRS. [00:05:03] AND SO ALL I WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THAT 40 YEARS AGO WHEN DELANEY DEVISED THE PLAN, WHICH AGAIN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE WAS MODIFICATIONS MADE OF THAT. SO THE QUESTION IS, 40 YEARS LATER, IS THAT STILL WHAT THE RESIDENTS OF STILL WHAT THE RESIDENTS OF STEWART WANT? I AGREE WITH YOU. BASED ON THE MEETING THAT WAS THERE, THAT WAS THAT WAS IT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS PROBABLY 2 OR 300 PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WERE THERE. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE RECORDING OF IT EITHER. BUT SO ALL MY, MY POINT WAS DO YOU SET SOMETHING UP AND THEN JUST SAY IT'S GOING TO LAST FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS? OR DO WE LOOK AT IT, SEE IF IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGE. SO THAT'S WHAT MY COMMENT WAS ABOUT IN THERE. SO BUT I'M GLAD YOU YOU ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE. BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT STICKING WITH THE PLAN, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING AND GOING TO MORE OF A SUBURBAN OR, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD SYSTEM OR WHATEVER I THINK IS WHAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? GOT IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S CLEAR. YEAH. AND WE CAN WE CAN TALK. BUT THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THOUGH. OKAY. SO SO AT THIS POINT I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DID INTEND. BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO WITH IT? JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT WAS ON THE MINUTES YOU'RE OKAY WITH. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THEM. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. BUT ANYWAY THAT'LL THAT'LL COST ME LATER. MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 3RD. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND FROM JEFF. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. [COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)] THREE MINUTES MAX ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE NONE. OKAY. COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS. [COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)] NON-AGENDA ITEMS. AND ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SORRY. ONE QUICK ONE. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED. SO THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT THAT. AND SO IT WAS CLEAR WHAT YOU SAID AND IT MATCHED OKAY. IT'S GREAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY. I WOULD SAY THE WHAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A LOVELY, NICE AREA WHERE YOU CAN LIVE, WORK, PLAY, WALK WITH YOUR FAMILY. WHO CAN ARGUE AGAINST THAT? I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY. BUT I DON'T CARE WHAT IT'S CALLED. I DON'T CARE IF YOU CALL IT DUANE OR WHATEVER. I'M SAYING. PEOPLE I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE THAT DOES LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY THEY INVESTED IN THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. YEAH. AND AND I THINK MY POINT WAS, I WANTED TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. YOU KNOW, FROM MORE THAN JUST A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, COMMISSIONERS HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, RESIDENTS THAT YOU KNOW MIGHT SHOW UP. ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY I DEFINITELY LIKE THAT KIND OF SETUP. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY WE EXIST TO REINVEST SO THAT THAT MAINTAINS. YEAH. BUT PART OF THE THING BACK IN THOSE DAYS IS WE HAD A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE WAS TO DRIVE STUFF TO DOWNTOWN SO THAT WE COULD OFFSET WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE MALL, THE LOSS OF BUSINESS. WE WERE AFRAID THAT DOWNTOWN WAS GOING TO DIE COMPLETELY. AND SO EVERYTHING WE DID THERE AS PART OF THE PLAN WAS, WAS TO TRY TO CREATE THAT FLOW DOWNTOWN AGAIN. NOW BOX CHECKED SUCCESS. RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL THAT IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE DOWNTOWN. PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO FROM THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN THAT ARE LOCAL BUSINESSES CAN'T AFFORD THE RENTS ANYMORE. SO SO THE ISSUE IS, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING? DO WE NEED TO? DO WE NEED TO STILL HAVE A DOWNTOWN THAT MAYBE APPEALS TO THE UNITED STATES? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. WE'RE ONE OF THOSE DESTINATION TYPE DOWNTOWNS. DO WE HAVE A PLACE LIKE THAT? AND THEN WE START TO CREATE OTHER AREAS OF WALKABILITY OR BUSINESS IN OTHER LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF STUART OR OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN? IT CAN BE WITHIN THE CITY OF STUART, BUT OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS MY COMMENT. AND RIGHT NOW ALL THAT, WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ZONING AND THERE'S NO CHANGES. AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL 2027 AT THE EARLIEST. BUT I THINK NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO SEE IT ALL. WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE WHEN WE GROW UP. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE'VE GROWN UP. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THAT JUST MAIN STREET WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT AT THE TIME WHEN I WENT ON AND AT THE TIME. RAUL OCAMPO WAS OUR PRESIDENT. AND I REMEMBER OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME, [00:10:01] AND I WAS A BIG PROPONENT. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS, BUT WE DON'T NEED A MAIN STREET ANYMORE. AND THEY WERE GOING TO GET RID OF IT, RIGHT? AND THEN BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WERE VERY ACTIVE. JULIE PRIEST ANNIE MCMILLAN, JOAN JEFFERSON. THEY GOT BEHIND A CHANGE TO COLORADO. COLORADO WAS GOING TO BE LEFT AS, LIKE FOUR LANES. AND YOU JUST ZIPPED THROUGH DOWNTOWN. AND THEY CAME OUT OPPOSED TO THAT. AND AND THAT KIND OF CHANGED RAUL'S ATTITUDE. BUT THAT. YEAH, MAYBE WE DO HAVE A PURPOSE TO MONITOR THIS PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT CONTINUES TO GO THE WAY IT'S GOING. BUT IT WOULD BE. SO THAT'S ALL I WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. AND I WAS HOPING THAT THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD OR THE CRA WOULD, WOULD LOOK AT THIS AGAIN JUST TO EVALUATE. NOT THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S NOT RIGHT OR WRONG. IT'S JUST HAVE THINGS CHANGED. AND DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY? ANYWAY, YEAH I GUESS. SORRY. GO AHEAD AND I'LL SWEAR I'LL START. I'LL STOP TALKING. I GUESS THE WAY I LOOK AT THAT IS THE. SORRY, IT DOESN'T WORK. IS THE. BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IT'S IT'S SUCH. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A NICE ENVIRONMENT, AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. I MEAN, IT'S NOT DIFFICULT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, THIS BOARD CAN CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND AND SUPPORT INVESTMENT IN WALKABILITY, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PARKS, GREEN SPACE. MAYBE THERE'S SOME BIGGER PIECES THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE CONTROVERSIAL. BUT I'M SAYING THE HAVING A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN LIVE, WORK, PLAY ALL IN THE SAME PLACE, NOBODY'S GOING TO ARGUE AGAINST THAT. IT'S A NO BRAINER. IT'S A NO BRAINER. SO THOSE ARE WHAT ALL I'M SAYING IS THE VAST MAJORITY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT'S THE STUFF WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH WITHOUT HASTE. OKAY. THAT'S IT FROM THE CRA PERSPECTIVE. AND, FREDERICK, DON'T FORGET YOUR MIC, MIKE, UP THERE A LITTLE BIT NEAR YOUR MIC. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN THE LIGHT ON JUST BECAUSE. FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, YOU AND FREDERICK WHAT ARE THE CONTRARIAN VIEWS UP THERE? YOU'RE HEARING THEM. BESIDES THE CRA MEETINGS, YOU GET SECONDARY INPUT FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE EMAILING IN QUESTIONS. INSTEAD. WHAT ARE THE AND WHO ARE THEY COMING FROM? WELL, IN MY CASE, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL LET FRED GO LAST. BUT IN, IN IN MY CASE IT'S IT'S REALLY JUST COMING FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOURCES. WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF THE YOUNGER PEOPLE. YEAH, THEY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CLAY, BUT THEY CAN'T LIVE HERE. AND SO THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING. AND SO THAT I MEAN, YOU YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING DOWNTOWN FOR UNDER, WHAT, 400,000? PROBABLY. MAYBE. AND THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PROPERTIES. MAYBE. MAYBE HALF A MILLION RENT SKY HIGH. AND AND YOU KNOW SO. WELL, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST DOWNTOWN THOUGH, RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S A IT'S A CITY. WELL, YEAH, BUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT BEHIND THE PLAN WAS, WAS THIS WHOLE CONCEPT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WALKABILITY AND, AND WORK, YOU KNOW, WORK, PLAY AND AND AND LIVE. BUT YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN JUST ONE. YOU COULD. YEAH, YOU COULD, AND BUT YOU COULD, AND THAT'S. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO KIND OF IT HAS TO BE SOMEWHAT PLANNED IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND, AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I, I PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THAT IF WE IF WE DON'T PLAN SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT ENDS UP JUST BLOWING UP ON US. AND AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE SAID IS I THOUGHT IT WAS A MISTAKE WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN APPROVED SO FAR IS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO OWN IT. THEY WERE RENTALS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING UNITS ARE GOOD PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THEM. BUT BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU'RE RENTING A UNIT, YOU'RE NOT NORMALLY LOOKING TO PUT DOWN ROOTS RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. SO ALL OF THE WALKABILITY AND LIVABILITY DOESN'T DO YOU ANY GOOD IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING REAL QUICKLY. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT IT WOULD BE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN HAVE HOUSING IS THAT THE PARENTS END UP, YOU KNOW, BUYING A HOME AND INSTEAD OF JUST SELLING IT OFF OR DOING IT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY STAYS LOCAL. AND THEN WHEN THEY RENT THAT HOUSE OUT TO THEIR KIDS OR SO THAT OR THE WORKFORCE THAT'S HERE, THOSE KIDS THEN CAN. THEN THE LANDLORD DOESN'T HAVE TO GET FULL MARKET VALUE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET THE APPRECIATION BECAUSE THE APPRECIATION IS ALREADY THEIRS AND THEY DON'T GET TAXED ON IT. SO THEY KNOW THEY'RE MAKING 4 OR 5% AN APPRECIATION A YEAR OR MORE. AND SO AS LONG AS THEY MAKE THE 4 OR 5% THAT COVERS THEIR EXPENSES, [00:15:01] YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CRUISIN, THEY'RE OKAY. AND WHEN YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM, I THINK. SO I, I JUST WAS MY WHOLE CONCEPT AND THE WHOLE THING I'D HOPED TO ACCOMPLISH WAS, WAS TO AT LEAST GET EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND SEE, YOU KNOW, DO WE GO WITH THIS? DO WE CONTINUE? I MEAN, I AGREE. I LOVE I LOVE LIVING DOWNTOWN. I LIVE A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW. BUT BUT I DO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN AND I LIKE LIVING IN STUART, BUT YOU KNOW, SO BUT I WORRY ABOUT WHERE MY SON WILL LIVE OR WHERE MY GRANDKIDS WILL LIVE. YOU KNOW. SO ANYWAY, SORRY, FRED. AND I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WAS THE AFFORDABILITY. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. AND AND STUART HAS GROWN UP SO MUCH. THE CITY HAS GROWN SO MUCH. THERE'S VERY LITTLE SPACE LEFT TO DEVELOP. AND SO THE THE REASON WE WANTED THEM TO LOOK AT IT, THEY HAD A 40 YEAR PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS LATER, IS IT THE SAME SITUATION? AND I THINK THE COMMENT OF TRYING TO DRAW PEOPLE INTO THE CITY, WELL, THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE CITY HAS CHANGED. SO I AGREE. THE COMMENT ABOUT WHATEVER THE PEOPLE WOULD WANT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. AND 2 OR 300 OF THEM HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, AND I'M IN. AGREE. I'M OKAY. AND JUST IN, LIKE, IN, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT FRED BEFORE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST AT THEY'VE TALKED AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL AS COMMUNITIES MAY HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS. YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? EACH STUDENT'S DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAY NOT WANT TO BE THE SAME AS FAR AS OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WENT WITH THE CREEK DISTRICT. RIGHT. IT WAS DIFFERENT. SO THEY DEVELOPED A PLAN FOR THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT. TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE THAT THE ARTS DISTRICT, THE CREEK DISTRICT, THAT THAT THAT'S A BIG COMMUNITY DRIVEN GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH IS WHY YOU KIND OF HAVE YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME VIEW OR SOME SENSE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY OR A PARTICULAR AREA, WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE. AND SO I GET IT. YEAH. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THEN GETTING THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT INPUT AND HOPEFULLY BUY IN FROM ALL OF THE SEGMENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TENDENCY TO PAY ATTENTION ONLY TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTE. YEAH. RIGHT. OR ARE ABLE TO VOTE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE POLITICIANS. THEY WANT TO GET ELECTED. BUT AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO LOOK A LITTLE BROADER. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHO VOTES, IT'S WHO'S GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES HERE AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH. WHO'S GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE LIKE? WHAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE LIKE. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE MORE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. BUT BUT I, I STILL THINK AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING TO, YOU KNOW, CLAY, IS THAT I STILL THINK IT'S WORTH PUSHING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND I AND I, AND I SAY WE LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITIES OURSELVES. ONE OF MY ISSUES WAS WHEN I CAME ON THE BOARD, I HAD NO CLUE. AND THEN ALL THIS INFORMATION WAS GIVEN US AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY ASSIMILATE THE, YOU KNOW, THE INFORMATION. AND SO I FOUND MYSELF SAYING LIKE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS, YOU KNOW, BUT NOW THAT I'M CATCHING UP AND I SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, I LOOK AROUND MY COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE NEED IS SO THAT WHEN I COME TO THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN AT LEAST AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE THE CITIZENS OF THAT COMMUNITY WOULD WANT. YEAH. AND MAYBE JUST ONE LAST POINT ON THAT. I WISH I COULD REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT. A MONTH AGO WHEN THE THE GROUPS HAD THE MEETING AT THE FLAGLER AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION. DUANY WAS THERE, AND JACKIE THURLOW WAS THERE SORT OF MODERATING AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE WERE, I DON'T KNOW, 300 PEOPLE THERE, BUT BUT THE 300 THAT WERE THERE INCLUDED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION, ALL THE FORMER LEADERS OF THE CITY. SO TO ME, THAT MEANS EVERYBODY IS PRETTY WELL ALIGNED. EVERYBODY WANTS A NICE PLACE. YEAH, YEAH. SO TO ME THAT'S THAT'S A LINE YES AND NO THOUGH, BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YES, I KNOW ALL THOSE PEOPLE. I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN TOWN AT THE TIME AND WHEN ALL THIS STUFF WAS BEING AND I RESPECT THOSE PEOPLE TREMENDOUSLY AND I DIDN'T I KNOW I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THEM AND I WAS WRONG AND I, I MEAN, WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH IS IS AMAZING. AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN ONE OF THE BEST COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT THE THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THOSE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO HAD ALREADY BOUGHT INTO THE DUANY PLAN. THEY WEREN'T BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE PUT ASIDE NOW AND INSTEAD GO SOME OTHER DIRECTION. THEY WERE BEING ASKED TO GIVE A HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED. AND I THINK THEY GAVE A GREAT HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED. [00:20:01] BUT MY POINT IS, AND I'LL JUST SAY, I MEAN, IT'S NOT NEGATIVE, BUT THERE THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW, CHRIS AND LAURA AND SEAN, THAT ARE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING AND A DIFFERENT TYPE AND MORE FOCUSED, LESS FOCUSED ON DENSITY, MORE FOCUSED ON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THEY GOT ELECTED. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH THEM. SO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST SAY EVERYBODY WANTS THIS OR THAT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANT A CERTAIN DIRECTION AND THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A DOWNTOWN WITH MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL AND APARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HIGH RISES. SO YOU THINK. I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT TRIO FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE. ARE THEY A ARE THEY ANTI DOWNTOWN STEWART. DO YOU THINK THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY DOWNTOWN STUART IS TODAY. ARE THEY AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN STUART. NO I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE I MEAN I'D HAVE TO ASK THEM BUT I THINK THAT I RESPECT THEM AND THEIR WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN TERMS OF GOING OUT AND GETTING ELECTED AND DEALING WITH YOU KNOW. WELL AND I MADE THOSE TRIPS AND WE KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. RIGHT. SO SO I RESPECT ALL OF THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY FEEL THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE COMING IN CONTACT WITH, THAT THEY'RE TALKING TO ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE KIND OF DENSITY THAT IT TAKES DOWNTOWN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND STILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THE DUANY PLAN IS, IS ALL ABOUT PACKING THAT DENSITY INTO, YOU KNOW, INTO A RELATIVELY SMALL AREA. I THINK THAT'S THE KEY POINT, MARCUS. FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THEY'RE SEEING A BIGGER PICTURE AS FAR AS THIS DENSITY EXTENDING OUTWARD INTO OUR ENTIRE DIASPORA OF TOUR. AND AND THAT'S WHAT THEY FEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE MULTIFAMILY DENSITY IS GOING ALL THE WAY FROM FORT PIERCE TO TEQUESTA, AND THAT ALL THAT AFFECTS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. I DON'T THINK IF THE FOCUS IS JUST DOWNTOWN STEWARD, AS FAR AS THEY'RE THINKING, IT'S IT'S THIS, THIS CORRUPTION OF HIGH DENSITY ALL AROUND. RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND THE FEELING THAT THAT DENSITY DOESN'T REALLY FIT WITH THE NATURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT GREW UP HERE. STILL WANT TO STAY HERE. THEY STILL KNOW EACH OTHER. AND THEY. YOU KNOW, AND AND THAT'S A TRADE OFF. THAT'S THAT'S A TRADE OFF THAT I THINK WE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND I AND I, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT'S PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE ASSESS THAT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE THREE PEOPLE ARE NOT RIGHT. OR AT LEAST THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES THERE ARE GOING TO BE TO THIS? YOU KNOW, I TELL THEM, WELL, THE LITTLE A LITTLE WHILE AGO. MY ANSWER IS ALWAYS NO IS NOT A SOLUTION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO I'M GOOD WITH. NO. BUT LET'S COME UP WITH YOU KNOW, SOME SOME JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU'RE A CPA. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. YEP. SO. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY THAT YOU KNOW? I KNOW WE SKIPPED IT, BUT I'M GOING TO GO BACK. SO IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS FROM SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, THEY CAN FEEL FREE TO DO SO. AND IF YOU WANT TO WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. OTHERWISE ANY ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT THROUGH THAT. LET'S GO WITH THE THE ONLY ACTION ITEM, I GUESS, [2. PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR FY 2025 CYCLE #2 (RC): RESOLUTION No. 05-2025 CRA; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AWARD TO APPLICANTS FROM THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 CYCLE #2; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] IS THE PRESENTATION OF THE APPLICATION FOR THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. NOW, IS THIS A NEW ONE OR IS THIS A IS THIS FROM ONE OF THE OTHER ONES? THIS IS CYCLE TWO. CYCLE TWO. YEAH. THIS FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. CRB BOARD MEMBER JORDAN PINKSTON, CRA PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM IS AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE VISIBLE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT WITHIN THE CRA. THE PROGRAM PROVIDES A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT OF UP TO $10,000 OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PER PROPERTY, TO MATCH PRIVATE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE DESIGN AND COMPLETION OF PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATED ANNUALLY BY THE CRA. THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT REVITALIZATION EFFORTS TO REDUCE BLIGHT AND IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF BUILDING FACADES THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND MARKETABILITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF HAS MADE AMENDMENTS TO THE AGREEMENT THAT REFLECT THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM'S MISSION, WHICH HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST YEARS FOR CITY BUSINESSES. ON MAY 27TH, 2025, THE CRA VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN FAVOR OF APPROVING FUNDING FOR FOR [00:25:03] ELIGIBLE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM APPLICATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF $36,350. ALSO, THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO INITIATE A NEW GRANT CYCLE FOR THE REMAINING BALANCE ALLOCATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, IN THE AMOUNT OF 13,000 50, ABOUT $50. THE CRA RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS FOR THE SECOND FISCAL YEAR 2025 APPLICATION CYCLE, WHICH EXCEEDS THE TOTAL REMAINING FUNDS AVAILABLE. THESE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED INCLUDE AWNINGS AND IMPACT WINDOWS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL INTRODUCE OUR FIRST APPLICANT. AVENUE COMMERCE CENTER ASSOCIATION, LOCATED ON 435 NORTHEAST BAKER ROAD. ON. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCING CURB APPEAL AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THE COMPANY BY INSTALLING AWNINGS. THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE $22,100. THE EXISTING AWNINGS THAT COVER THE BUSINESS STOREFRONTS ARE WORN AND FADED AND NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REPLACE THE FABRIC FOR 30 AWNINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX. CURRENTLY, THERE IS ONE BUILDING WITH BURGUNDY AWNINGS AND ANOTHER WITH GREEN. THE NEW AWNINGS WILL BE A MIXTURE OF BOTH GREEN AND BURGUNDY STRIPES. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS APPLICANT FROM 2023 WHERE THEY APPLIED FOR THE GRANT FUNDING FOR RESETTING ENTRYWAY PAVERS, BENCHES, BIKE RACKS, AND AWNING REPLACEMENT. AT THAT TIME, AWNING REPLACEMENT WAS NOT AN ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENT BASED ON THE ADOPTED GUIDELINES, AND ONLY NEW AWNINGS WERE ELIGIBLE. THE BOARD APPROVED THE GRANT MATCH FOR FOR THE ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT TIME IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,160. THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION TO COMPLETE THE LARGER FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THEY HAD ENVISIONED. THIS IMPROVEMENT WILL HAVE A VISUAL IMPACT ON A HIGH LEVEL ROAD, AND SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE GROWING AREA. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CRA, A DEVELOPER MADE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BAKER ROAD, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING, STREETLIGHTS AND ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT DEVELOPER USED THE REDO PROGRAM THAT'S OFFERED BY THE CRA. THE TOTAL INVESTMENT AND ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COST WILL BE ABOUT $100 WITH A GRANT OF $10,000. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE NEXT APPLICATION WAS SERVICE PARTNERS, LOCATED AT 300 COLORADO AVENUE, SUITE 201. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRANT ASSISTANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO INSTALL IMPACT WINDOWS TO THEIR OFFICE BUILDING ON A HIGH TRAVELED STREET WITHIN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN. THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COST WILL BE $19,602. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REPLACE THE FOUR SETS OF WINDOWS INDICATED IN RED. CURRENTLY, THE WINDOWS YOU SEE ARE THE ORIGINALS TO THE BUILDING. NEW IMPACT WINDOWS WILL ENHANCE THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDING. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TRIPLE CROWN OF STUART, LLC OWNS THE ENTIRE BUILDING, OF WHICH SUITE 201 IS ONE OF THE UNITS, BUT SECRET SERVICE PARTNERS AT THE TENANT AND IS GOING TO BE THE ONE PURCHASING THE WINDOWS. THE PROPERTY IS IN THE NEWLY DEEMED HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS A HIGH VISIBILITY AREA. IMPACT WINDOWS AND DOORS ARE CRUCIAL TO PROTECTION AGAINST HIGH WINDS, FLYING DEBRIS AND POTENTIAL DAMAGE FROM STORMS LIKE HURRICANES. THEY ALSO ENHANCE SECURITY AND IMPROVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND AND REDUCE NOISE POLLUTION. THESE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE CRUCIAL FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CENTER OF THE CRA DOWNTOWN UNDERGROUNDING AND SEMINOLE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, MAKING IT A CATALYST FOR OTHER DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO DO THE SAME. THE TOTAL ESTIMATED IMPROVEMENT COSTS WILL BE ABOUT $19,602, WITH A GRANT MATCH OF $9,801. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOTAL GRANT MATCH AMOUNT THAT QUALIFIES FOR FUNDING IS $19,801. AS SORRY AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH THREE POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR FUNDING DISBURSEMENT. OPTION ONE IS AN EVEN SPLIT OF THE REMAINING FUNDING AVAILABLE, WHICH IS $13,650. OPTION TWO IS A SCORE BASED FUNDING, ALTHOUGH SCORING IS SUBJECTIVE. AVONLEA SCORED 55 OUT OF 106 SERVICE PARTNERS SCORED 50 OUT OF 100. OPTION THREE WOULD AWARD EACH APPLICANT THEIR FULL MATCH REQUEST. AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF $6,151 WOULD BE TRANSFERRED FROM ANOTHER LINE ITEM THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CRA BUDGET, AND AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS REQUESTING A MOTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 BURP CYCLE TO GRANT DISBURSEMENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE LET'S LET'S TAKE THESE INDIVIDUALLY AND GROUP THEM TOGETHER JUST SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KIND OF DO IT THAT WAY. [00:30:04] AND THEN LET'S I'LL OPEN IT UP. DO WE? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS, SHOULD WE ALLOW ANYBODY TO SPEAK THEN? FIRST, IF THEY WANT TO. COMPLETELY UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. SO DO ANY OF THE APPLICANTS WANT TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THEY'RE HERE. OKAY, SO I'M NANCY ALBERT, AND I'M REPRESENTING AVONLEA. OKAY. WE WERE HERE BEFORE, AND I RESPECT AND AND APPRECIATE THE PROGRAM A LOT. WE HAVE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS IN OUR COMPLEX, AND IT IS AN OLDER COMPLEX, AND IT WE ARE TRYING HARD AS A BOARD TO TRY AND OPEN IT UP TO GET MORE BUSINESS. WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE ZONING OVER THERE. WE CATER TO THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TENANTS, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL WORK, LIVE AND INDUSTRIAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO PROMOTE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN, EITHER VIA LEASES OR SELLING THEIR PROPERTY, TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT THE AREA. WITH THAT COMES THESE AWNINGS. EVERYBODY QUESTIONS THESE EARNINGS. SEASONINGS, AND IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE ITEM, AND SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS JUST FLAT OUT CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO WE'VE BEEN BACK HERE TWICE NOW, TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE GET INTO THIS PARTNERSHIP AND KIND OF HELP THESE BUSINESSES ALONG. THERE IS MORE AND MORE RESIDENTIAL MOVING IN. WE JUST HAD THE TOWNHOUSE COMMUNITY. WE HAD THE APARTMENT BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND I HEAR THERE'S SOMETHING COMING ACROSS THE STREET ON BAKER. SO THEY ARE LITERALLY WALKING. I HAVE CAMERAS OUT THERE. THEY ARE WALKING BY OUR BUSINESSES CONSTANTLY AND ALSO MAKING COMMENTS ON THE NICE THINGS. IS THE ARE THE AWNINGS PART OF THE I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT I DON'T. ARE THEY PART OF THE REQUIRED ZONING OVER THERE? IT WAS AT THE TIME IT WAS BUILT. IT WAS PART OF THE PATTERN BOOK AND WHAT THE EXTERIOR FACADES NEEDED TO LOOK LIKE. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IT IS NOT AN ASSOCIATION RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S ON ALL THE OWNERS SO THEY WILL GET A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IF WE FORCE THE AWNINGS TO BE REPLACED. YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL FOR SALE UNITS, RIGHT? YOU CAN BUY ALL THOSE ARE CONDOS, RIGHT? OFFICE CONDOS. AND AND THERE'S SOME RESIDENTIAL CONDOS. CORRECT? YEAH. THERE IS ONE BUILDING THAT HAS THREE STORY UNITS THAT HAS A TWO STORY APARTMENTS ABOVE. AND YOU PUT YOUR BUSINESS DOWN BELOW, AND THAT IS A WORK OF ZONING IN THOSE. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR OF JORDAN. NO. OKAY. SO LET'S LET'S ADDRESS LET'S ADDRESS THIS IN TWO PHASES AS WELL. ONE IS WHETHER WE'RE APPROVING THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE SECOND IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT. ONE QUESTION, BUT GO AHEAD. FUNDING WHAT THE LINE ITEM WHERE THAT WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN FROM. WHAT IS THAT LINE ITEM. WHAT IS THE CONTEXT OF THAT. SO SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HAVE NOT UTILIZED ALL OF THEIR FUNDING. SO WE KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT BALANCE COME OCTOBER WHEN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR STARTS. SO IT WOULD JUST IT'S ALREADY IN THE CRA BUDGET. IT WOULD JUST BE REALLOCATED TO THIS PROGRAM INSTEAD. WE ARE NOT PULLING FUNDS. WE'RE NOT HAVING TO REQUEST A BUDGET TRANSFER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE FUNDS WE'RE NOT TAKING. WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDING ALREADY. SO THAT BUT LET ME GET THAT STRAIGHT THOUGH. THAT FUNDING IS IS COMING FROM WE'RE PULLING IT FROM NEXT YEAR. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. NO NO NO NO WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHY I DO NOT HAVE TO DO A BUDGET TRANSFER. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BECAUSE WE WERE ORIGINALLY TALKING ABOUT IF THERE WAS MONEY LEFT OVER, WE WOULD TRY TO CARRY IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A COUPLE LATE APPLICANTS, WE MIGHT CARRY IT FORWARD. SO WHICH WAS NOT A POSSIBILITY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENT? I HAVE A I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT RELATES TO BOTH OF THEM. SO I'LL JUST ASK YOU HERE THE FIRST ONE. SO IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU HOW THE STAFF SCORED THEM. SO I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE THE MATCH MATCH RATIO WHY NEITHER APPLICANT GOT CREDIT FOR. BUT THEY ARE MATCHING RIGHT. THEY ARE SPENDING THEIR OWN FUNDS IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO GET TO MATCH. SO THEY BOTH GOT ZERO FOR THAT CATEGORY. MAYBE I MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CATEGORY. SURE. SO THE WAY WE SCORE IS EVERY EVERY APPLICATION IS A MATCH. THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM IS. RIGHT. SO IT'S A 5050 MATCH. WHAT THAT WHAT THAT CRITERIA IS ACTUALLY SAYING IS WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE COMING IN SPENDING $100,000 AND THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR TEN. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WE SAY THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MATCHING CRITERIA. IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE NOT GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MATCHING CRITERIA BECAUSE THEY MAXED OUT AT 10,000. SO THEY'RE AT 20. IT'S IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A 5050 SPLIT AT THAT POINT IF YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING. [00:35:01] SO THEY'RE OKAY. THEIR PROJECT IS LET'S SAY $20,000. AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND TEN THE THIS FUND IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO TEN. BUT THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD SITUATION. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT'S. WHY IS THAT CRITERION. WHY DO THEY GET ZERO FOR THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IF OKAY IF IT'S A $100,000 PROJECT AND, AND THEY HAVE TO SPEND 90 AND THEY GET TEN. I GET THAT. YEAH. KIND OF. BUT IT ACTUALLY I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE A SCALE. IT CAN'T BE ALL OR NOTHING. RIGHT. SO THERE'S 15 POINTS. SO WHY WOULD WHY WOULD A PERSON GET ZERO VERSUS TEN OR 12 OR 8. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SURE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS THE RATING SCALE. IT IS SUBJECTIVE. SO IT'S YOU CAN RATE SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY THAN STAFF MIGHT RATE SOMETHING. WE BASE IT BASED ON THE, THE PAST APPLICATIONS WE'VE RECEIVED. AND MOST OF THOSE ARE OVER THE 50%. SO OVER 20,000. SO TYPICALLY THOSE ARE WHAT WE GIVE INCENTIVE POINTS TO. SO IF THEIR PROJECT WAS 25,000 WOULD THEY GET 15 POINTS FOR THAT. SO IT IS SUBJECTIVE. BUT IT'S I GUESS MAYBE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE. MAYBE WE GET A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON THAT PARTICULAR CRITERIA. SURE, WE CAN BRING THE EVALUATION MATRIX FORWARD AND GO FORWARD. I THINK MY QUESTION WAS, ARE WE ARE YOU ASKING THE BOARD TO DECIDE ON THE DISBURSEMENT ALSO? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT WAS THE OTHER, OTHER THING. I'LL NEED TO KNOW WHICH OPTION YOU CHOOSE. DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT TO SPLIT THE REMAINING FUNDS EVENLY, WHICH I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH BOTH APPLICANTS. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. AND THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. DO WE WANT TO DO A SCORE BASED FUNDING, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT ROUTE? OR DO WE WANT TO DO THE FULL MATCH? FOR EACH OF THEIR REQUESTS. AND THAT WOULD BRING US TO DO A BUDGET TRANSFER OF $6,151. I SHOULD KNOW THAT IN 2023, WE DID HAVE TO OPEN A SECOND CYCLE FOR A REMAINING OF 20,000. BECAUSE WE RECEIVED FIVE ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS, ACTUALLY FOR CYCLE TWO. SO CLEARLY THAT WAS OVER THE 20,000. AND AT THAT TIME THE CRB RECOMMENDED TO REDUCE THE TOTAL MATCH FOR ALL OF THOSE ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS BY 33%. AND THAT WOULD GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO RECEIVE SOME FUNDING, BREAKING DOWN THAT $20,000. IN A IN THE FAIREST WAY THEY THOUGHT. HOWEVER, I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT THE CRA ONCE I BROUGHT IT TO THEM, THEY DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND AWARD THEM THE FULL ASK. SO THEY DID REQUEST A BUDGET TRANSFER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. THE LAST TIME THIS WAS EXCEEDING OUR REMAINING BUDGET FOR A CYCLE TO. MAY I MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT LETTING THE OTHER PROJECT GO, AND THEN WE CAN. THEN WE KNOW WHAT BOTH PROJECTS ARE ABOUT, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE LOOKING AT. FAIR ENOUGH, IF THAT'S OKAY. SURE. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? WE'LL JUST GET THAT WAY. WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS THE PROJECTS AND THEN AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK THROUGH ON THE FUNDING FOR EACH ONE AND SAY, IS THERE SOMETHING? I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT ON SECRET SERVICE PARTNERS? SURE. THAT'D BE FINE. THAT'D BE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS JOHN, AND I RUN SEACOAST SERVICE PARTNERS. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SEACOAST BANK. OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR FIVE STORIES, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. NO, WE ARE A LOW. WE'RE A HOLDING COMPANY. WE OWN WE STARTED ABOUT 20 MONTHS AGO. CHOSE DOWNTOWN STUART FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU GUYS AND GALS MENTIONED. QUALITY OF LIFE, HOW DIFFERENT IT IS. THROWBACK FOR SOMEONE MY AGE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND AND HAVE LUNCH AND ENTERTAIN ENTERTAIN PEOPLE. I OWN NOT I OWN I RUN THE PLATFORM AND WE'RE HOLDING PLATFORM. WE OWN 12. WE STARTED ABOUT 20 MONTHS AGO. WE JUST CLOSED ON OUR 12TH DEAL. WE HAVE 12 PLUMBING, HVAC, AND COMMERCIAL REFRIGERATION BUSINESSES, ALL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ALL OVER THE STATE. I EMPLOY 6 OR 7 PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME DOWNTOWN. THEY'RE DOWN HERE EVERY DAY SPENDING MONEY GOING TO THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND ESTABLISHMENTS. I CHOSE STUART BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN MIAMI. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN LAUDERDALE. I THINK AGAINST THOSE CITIES. IT'S JUST I'M A RESIDENT HERE. I'VE BEEN IN MARTIN COUNTY FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS. AND WE'LL NEVER MOVE. THIS LOCATION WAS, WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO UNIQUE WHEN PEOPLE COME AND AND VISIT AND THEY COME TO DOWNTOWN STUART, THEY WANT TO STAY. AND THAT'S THE REASON I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT. AND WE LOVE BEING IN THAT BUILDING. IT'S IT'S A LEGACY BUILDING, AND THE LOCATION IS DYNAMIC. THAT'S IT. THANKS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, A QUICK QUESTION, JUST FOR CLARITY. SO YOU ARE TENANTS. YOU DON'T OWN THAT SPACE. WE'RE UNIT 201, RIGHT? BUT YOU ARE TENANTS IN THAT SPACE. CORRECT. OKAY. THE THE ONE QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THAT IS INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, [00:40:05] THAT THAT AREA DOWN THERE BOTH I THINK BOTH THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE IN AND ACROSS THE STREET WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BUILDINGS ACROSS THERE, WE'RE USED TO MONKEYS AND ALL THAT WAS IS, I THINK, THE ONLY ART DECO. I THINK IT'S CONSIDERED THAT'S THE ONLY LEGITIMATE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WE HAVE IN ALL THAT I CAN FIND IN ALL OF DOWNTOWN. AND IT'S AND AND SO IT'S IT'S AN ART DECO DESIGN. ARE YOU GUYS. IS ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AFFECT THAT? CAN WILL THOSE WINDOWS CHANGE THE THE LOOK DOWN THERE ARCHITECTURALLY? ONLY FOR THE BETTER. THE WINDOWS ARE VERY OLD. YOU COULD SEE BY THE PICTURE THE BUILDING I THINK IS PROBABLY AT LEAST 80 OR 90 YEARS OLD. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. WHEN WAS WHEN IT WAS BUILT. IT'LL HELP US WITH OUR LITTLE STRUCTURE BECAUSE OF THE SOUND, DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEW WINDOWS VERSUS THE CURRENT WINDOWS, WHICH YOU CAN HEAR EVERYTHING OUTSIDE SIRENS, NOISES, TRAINS, ET CETERA, ETC. BUT ESTHETICALLY, I THINK WE'LL ONLY JUST BRING IT TO A MORE UP TO DATE LOOK. SO THOSE WINDOWS HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 30 OR 40 YEARS OLD. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WHOLE AREA THERE IS OLD, BUT BUT THAT'S MY THAT'S MY QUESTION BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY HISTORIC SITES IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE. SO GO AHEAD. YEAH. I WOULD DO NOTHING TO, YOU KNOW, ALTER THE THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT BUILDING. I HAVE A QUESTION, JOHN. YOU SAY YOU'RE THE TENANT THERE, THEN WHY IS THE OWNER NOT COMING UP WITH THIS PROPOSAL? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY, JUST JUST CURIOUS. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE COMING FORWARD WITH THIS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN APPROVED. OKAY, I LIKE THE IDEA, BUT WE HAD THE FIRST. WE HAD THE SAME THING ON THE FIRST ROUND. MARIA'S THE. THEY WOULD NOT. THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING WASN'T PROPOSING IT. MARIA WAS GOING TO MAKE THE CHANGE AND PAY FOR IT. OKAY. CORRECT. THANKS, JOHN. THANKS. SOMETIMES THE OWNERS DON'T SEE AN ROI IN IT. IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. SAME, RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO SO AT THIS POINT, LET'S LET'S VOTE FOR EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY. AND THEN AND THEN WE'LL VOTE FOR THE FINANCING IN TOTAL, ONCE WE'VE DECIDED WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE. WHERE ARE THESE? THIS WOULD BE, I GUESS, JORDAN. OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF NEW AT THIS. SO, JORDAN, WHERE ARE THESE PUBLIC FUNDS BEING SOURCED FROM? ALL THE FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS. SO THE CRA IS FUNDED BY TIF FUNDING. SO TAX INCREMENT FUNDING. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S FUNDED IN THE CRA COMES FROM THAT. SO THE BUSINESSES THAT CONTRIBUTE ANNUALLY TO THIS FUND. THAT'S THE PURPOSE. SO THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM IT SOMEHOW. SO WE CREATE THESE PROGRAMS. GOTCHA. SO SIGNIFICANTLY THE ALL THE OR YOU COULD SAY ALL THE BUSINESSES ARE BASICALLY KICKING IN FOR THESE OTHER FOLKS TO MAYBE TAP INTO THIS SOURCE. WHICH KIND OF LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. HOW DOES A BUSINESS FIND OUT ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS? IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT GOES AROUND FROM YOUR OFFICE THAT SAYS, HEY, WE HAVE THIS, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN IT? YEAH, THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS. IT'S IT'S VARIED IN, IN THE REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. HOWEVER WE DO SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH, WE DO FLIERS, WE DO EMAIL BLASTS AND ALSO LIKE WORD OF MOUTH WHEN, WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE TO GO UP AND DOWN THE STREETS IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT A BUSINESS MIGHT BENEFIT FROM OR RESIDENT FOR A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, WE MIGHT HAVE. THEY. ALWAYS. THEY ALWAYS OFFER THAT AS AN OPTION. VERY GOOD. AND ONE LAST QUESTION. I THINK I HAD ONE LAST QUESTION. I JUST FORGOT IT, SO THAT'S OKAY. THANKS. NO PROBLEM. THE JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW. WELL, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS PROGRAM OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AND SO AND I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION COMES UP, IS THIS ENOUGH? YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, ARE ALL WE DOING ARE OUR IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING JUST GIVING PEOPLE MONEY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SPENT ANYWAY? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE? AND WHEN WE HAVE LANDLORDS MAKING CHANGES? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OUR TENANTS ARE MAKING CHANGES THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOWS THEY CARE ENOUGH ABOUT IT, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THEIR OWN MONEY ON IT. BUT. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ALSO ABOUT SOMETIMES MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE FEWER PROJECTS, BIGGER DOLLARS SO THAT THAT MONEY CAN, CAN BE SPENT EFFECTIVELY. SO. ANYWAY, WHICH REMINDED ME OF MY THIRD QUESTION, WAS THAT EXTRA FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? YOU SAID THAT'S AVAILABLE. IF THEY DON'T USE IT, [00:45:02] THEN IT WOULD CARRY OVER TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR. OR IS THIS WHERE I DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT? ORIGINALLY WE WE WE WOULD NOT. BUT I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING DID THE CRA SAY THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO COMMIT THAT TO CARE BE CARRIED OVER? NO. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE DON'T DO. I'M SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE A FINANCIAL REASON FOR THAT. HOWEVER, WE DO ALLOCATE 50,000 EVERY YEAR FOR THIS PROGRAM. IT'S ALREADY LIKE THE BUDGETS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THAT. OR ALLOCATED, I SHOULD SAY. AND THEN THAT GOES INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST OF EVERY YEAR. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DIDN'T USE THIS 13,650? IT WOULD GO BACK INTO THE CRA GENERAL FUND, WHICH WE COULD USE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE FUNDS WE NEED ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THIS YEAR. RIGHT. I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE EXTRA 6150 THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK, TO FULLY FUND BOTH. YEAH. THIS 6151. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT THAT'S AGAIN ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. IT JUST WE NEVER ENDED UP HAVING TO USE IT FOR ANOTHER LINE ITEM. SO GOTCHA. OKAY. IT'LL THAT WOULD BE ROLLED OVER SOMEHOW BUNDLED INTO NEXT YEAR I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY. IT DOESN'T JUST DISAPPEAR. NO I'M SURE IT DOESN'T. JUST LIKE POOF DISAPPEAR. I JUST DON'T KNOW ALL THE LEGALITIES BEHIND IT. AND CRA IS KIND OF A UNIQUE ANIMAL AS IT, AS FUNDING GOES. SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK WHAT I DON'T. THANKS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. LET'S LET'S TAKE TAKE ONE FIRST. WE'LL WE'LL GO WITH THE START WITH THE PROJECT OUT ON BAKER. MOTION TO APPROVE OR. I WOULD MOVE THAT. WE SUPPORT THEIR REQUEST. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. GOT A FIRST. AND BY SECOND BY SCOTT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. AND WE DON'T NEED ANY KIND OF ROLL CALL FOR US. RIGHT ON THAT. WE DO FOR THE PART. IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THE MOTIONS, THEN WE WOULD NEED A ROLL CALL FOR THE MONEY PART. FOR THE MONEY PART. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. AND THEN NOW FOR THE SECOND ONE FOR FOR SEACOAST PARTNERS. SERVICE PARTNERS. GOT A MOTION. I WOULD MOVE THAT. WE SUPPORT THE REQUEST OF SEACOAST SERVICE PARTNERS. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. NOW, FINANCING. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE LOT. JUST SO WE KNOW, WHAT'S THE TOTAL IF IF WE WERE TO FUND IT 100%. WHAT'S THE TOTAL NEED AGAIN BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS? WELL, WE HAVE 13,650 CURRENTLY REMAINING IN THE IN CYCLE TWO BUDGET. YOU WOULD NEED TO TRANSFER OR $6,151. THAT'S THE OVERAGE. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD NEED. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD NEED. HOW DOES THAT SPLIT OUT ON EACH PROJECT? IN OTHER WORDS. WHAT'S THE OVERAGE ON ON PARTNERS VERSUS THE OVERAGE ON THE ONE ON BAKER. WELL. I MEAN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IF THEY WERE TO GET FULLY LIKE THE FULL MATCH FOR IS 10,000 FOR AVONLEA AND THEN THE SEACOAST IS $9,801. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. OKAY. SO THEY'RE BOTH. SO THEY'RE BOTH. THEY'RE BOTH ALMOST TEN. YEAH. SAME NUMBER. SO NOW ONE QUESTION I HAVE AND ARE, ARE THOSE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THE ASSOCIATION THAT YOU GUYS ARE REPRESENTING. CORRECT. WE REPRESENT THE ASSOCIATION IN TURN, REPRESENTING ALL THE INDIVIDUAL OWNER. INDIVIDUAL OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FUNDING. I JUST KNOW THAT BUSINESS IS BEING DEFINITELY NOT FOR IT. AND YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU PEOPLE COMING HERE. SO RIGHT HERE REPRESENTING THAT. SO JORDAN YOU KNOW DID DID AVON GET RID OF FUNDS. HE. YES, BUT I DON'T. THAT WOULD BE AN ATTORNEY QUESTION. I RITA FUNDS WENT TO THE NEW AVONLEA PROPERTIES. SO LIKE THOSE NEW THOSE NEW CONDO ASSOCIATIONS. IT WASN'T THESE GUYS. NO, THEY DID NOT RECEIVE RITA FUNDING. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THEIR NAME CORRESPONDS WITH A NAME THAT UTILIZED THE DEVELOPER UTILIZED FOR THAT AREA. YEAH. SO NO, THAT BUSINESS ASSOCIATION DID NOT RECEIVE RITA FUNDING WHEN YOUR ORIGINAL UNITS WERE BUILT BY WALKUP. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS THAT AND JUST FOR A GENERAL COMMENT, IS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS, YOU KNOW, THE RITA FUNDS WERE A PROGRAM THAT WE HAD FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT SOME BUSINESSES ARE GETTING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE, [00:50:03] IF THEY HAD JUST GOTTEN, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, 750,000 A YEAR OR A MILLION A YEAR WHICH IS SOME OF THESE NUMBERS YOU KNOW, THEN I MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF FUNDING AN ADDITIONAL TEN GRAND, BUT OR AT LEAST MAKE THEM PAY FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE SHORTAGE. BUT BUT ANYWAY SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY THOUGHTS AS TO HOW WE SHOULD DO IT? I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME AMOUNT. AND SO WE EITHER CUT THEM EQUALLY OR WE PAY THEM FULL BOAT AND CHANGE THE BUDGET, I THINK. I MEAN, THAT'S OUR CHOICES. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE OPTION NUMBER THREE. I SECOND. THAT'S GOTTA HAVE A ROLL CALL. THAT IS THAT'S THE WHOLE THING THEN RIGHT. THAT'S THE THE SO THE THE THE THE TWO ENTITIES WOULD GET THE FULL MATCH THAT MATCH THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR AND HAVE REQUESTED. AND WE TRANSFER THE 6000, 6000 FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WE GOT A MOTION A SECOND OR SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. YOU GUYS CAN FIGHT OVER. WELL, I'LL LET YOU SAY HE'S GOT SECONDED. I'LL LET YOU I'LL LET YOU SECOND. NO, NO, NO. SECOND CHAIR. SCOTT. MISTER CHAIR MADE THE MOTION, AND SCOTT MADE THE SECOND FOR OPTION NUMBER THREE. OKAY. SO CAN I JUST INTERJECT REAL QUICK, TOO? AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL RESOLUTION, SO NEED TO BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. AND GOING WITH OPTION THREE JUST FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT WILL NEED A ROLL CALL ON. OKAY. SO LET'S I MOVE I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION REFERRING TO OPTION THREE. NOT NOW. DO WE HAVE TO READ IT OR DO YOU? AND SCOTT, YOU SAID TECHNICALLY WE NEVER READ IT BEGIN WITH, SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY READ YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO I'LL READ IT. NORMALLY AT THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, I READ IT, BUT I WASN'T UP AT THE MIC AT THE TIME. SO THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2002 FIVE. CRA A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AWARD TO APPLICANTS FROM THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, CYCLE NUMBER TWO, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT A MOTION AND WE GOT A SECOND. AND THEN AT THIS POINT, ANY ANY COMMENTS FURTHER APPLICANT, ANY APPLICANTS NEED TO BE SWORN IN TO, TO GIVE ANY TESTIMONY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? WE GOT TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE. SO, BOARD MEMBER APPROVE. BOARD MEMBER LOUGHLIN. APPROVED. BOARD MEMBER WALTON. WHALEN. SORRY. BOARD MEMBER. JAMES. APPROVE. CHAIR. BILL. YES. AND BOARD MEMBER. SHARE. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. AND THANK YOU, GUYS. AND THAT WILL MAKE THAT LOOK REALLY GREAT THERE. AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT THAT THE BUILDING FOR SEACOAST PARTNERS DIDN'T GET A SEACOAST SERVICE PART ISN'T GOING TO GET BLOWN AWAY BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT BEFORE. SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT BUILDING. ALL RIGHT. THE I THINK THAT'S IT, UNLESS THERE'S THEIR STAFF UPDATE, [STAFF UPDATE] BUT I DON'T THINK STAFF GOT ANYTHING. OKAY. SO MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? YOU STAY DONE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.