Jul 28, 2025 Joint CRA/CRB/CCM

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I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THE JOINT MEETING OF THE STUART CITY COMMISSION, THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR THE 28TH OF JULY, 2025. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MADAM CLERK. MAYOR. REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CHAIR. RICH HERE. VICE CHAIR.

COLLINS. HERE. BOARD MEMBER. CLARK HERE. BOARD MEMBER. JOB BOARD MEMBER. REID. BOARD MEMBER. BROOKVILLE HERE. BOARD MEMBER. JAMES. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD CHAIR.

BROOKVILLE. HERE. VICE CHAIR. MOSER HERE. BOARD MEMBER. JAMES. BOARD MEMBER. LAUGHLIN HERE.

BOARD MEMBER. MANARA HERE. BOARD MEMBER. SHEARER HERE. BOARD MEMBER. WHALEN HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND WE WILL BEGIN THIS AFTERNOON WITH A

[1. PRESENTATION BY THE CONSULTANT, GIORDANO & ASSOCIATES, INC., FOR THE 90% DESIGN STATUS FOR THE GUY DAVIS COMMUNITY PARK]

SORRY FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I'M ABOUT TO SAY NEXT. MY NAME IS DOMINIC. I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH CGA. I APPRECIATE TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR US GIVE YOU THIS UPDATE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. WE'RE EXCITED WITH THE STATUS OF WHERE WE'RE AT. SO REALLY QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH AN AGENDA JUST BRIEFLY WHO WE ARE. JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT AND THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT'S HAPPENED. TALK ABOUT THE EAST STEWART PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAD WORKED ON, AS WELL AS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE 90% PLANS. WITH THAT, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST ONE OF FOUR COMPONENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION, OUR 90% CD PACKAGE, AS WELL AS THE 50% SKATE PARK PLANS, AND AS WELL AS THE 90% COST ESTIMATE. SO WHO IS

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I WON'T I WON'T GO TOO FAR INTO DETAIL, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. BUT AS WE FLIP THROUGH THESE SLIDES, WE START TO TALK ABOUT THE PIONEER COMMITTEE THAT WE ESTABLISHED, THE OUTREACH THAT HAPPENED, AND COLLECTING ALL OF THE INVENTORY UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE MOMENTS THAT CAN HAPPEN THROUGH IT FOR US TO THEN CREATE THIS MASTER PLAN. THE MASTER PLAN WAS PRESENTED IN JULY OF 2024 LAST YEAR. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT GO THROUGH THERE, REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN AND UNDERSTANDING ALL THE PRINCIPLES THAT REALLY GUIDE THE DECISIONS. AND THEN AT THE TAIL END OF THIS, YOU'LL SEE HOW. THEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW ALL OF THIS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED INTO A MASTER PLAN, INTO OUR PARK HERE AT GUIDE DAVIS. AND UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THOSE IDEAS COME TO LIFE. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THE PORTIONS, THE RESTROOM WE HAVE AREAS OF CELEBRATION FOR GUY DAVIS HIMSELF. OF COURSE, THE LONG STRETCH OF BLANK WALL WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME PUBLIC ART. AND WE COULD KEEP GOING HERE. AND AT THE END OF THAT, THE END RESULT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS MASTER PLAN THAT CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T INCLUDE IN THIS BASE BID AS, AS TERMS OF BUDGET. BUT HAVING THAT ALTERNATES UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE AND GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, FEEL FOR NUMBERS SO THAT IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT NOW, WONDERFUL. IF WE CAN'T, AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE THAT IMPLEMENTATION.

IMPLEMENTATION. SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? SO AS I HAD MENTIONED, WE JUST SUBMITTED OUR 90% PLANS OF THE PARK. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE YOU'LL SEE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED IN 2022 AND THEN THE

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THE BASE BID OBVIOUSLY STILL AT THE 576. THAT'S INCLUDING YOUR CONCESSION BUILDING, YOUR RESTROOM, YOUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT STORAGE, YOUR SPORTS STORAGE AREA, YOUR ELECTRICAL RISER AREA. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE AD ALTERNATE, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING IS PERFORATED METAL PANELS THAT WITH A TOTAL SAVINGS OF AROUND 150. THE MISSING PLAY AREA. THIS IS THOUGHT OF AS AN EXTENSION OF THE PLAYGROUND. THERE IS NO ACTIVE SPLASH PAD AREA, IT'S JUST A MISTING AREA AS A COOL DOWN FOR THE PLAYGROUND. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENTION. THE INTENTION WASN'T NECESSARILY TO HAVE A SPLASH PAD PER SE, BUT THE TERM IS LOOSE. ANYTHING WITH WATER REALLY GETS CLASSIFIED AS A SPLASH PAD. BUT AGAIN, THE IDEA HERE IS JUST FOR MISTING. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THAT BREAKDOWN LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE USING THREE ELEMENTS, MULTIPLE OF EACH. JUST THE EQUIPMENT ALONE COMING DOWN TO ABOUT 165. OBVIOUSLY THAT FOOTPRINT CAN SHRINK IF WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT THE BEST CASE SCENARIO HERE IS THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 165 FOR THE MATERIAL, NOT INCLUDING THE OFFLOADING AND INSTALL, WHICH YOU CAN PROBABLY ADD ABOUT 40 TO 50% ON TOP OF THAT. THE NEXT IS THE WELLFIELD IMPACTS AND FITNESS AREA. SO STARTING BACK IN 2024 IS WHEN WE WERE COORDINATING WITH THE CITY ON THE ONGOING FUTURE WELLFIELD IMPROVEMENTS, WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULDN'T DISTURB THE SITE PLAN AS IS. SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CITY AND THE CONSULTANT. WE WALKED THROUGH THAT, WHICH IS THAT GRAPHIC YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF ALL OF OUR MEETING NOTES, ESSENTIALLY DESIGNATING WHERE YOU KNOW BEST WOULD FIT. ON JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL SIGHTING OF THE WELLFIELD WITHIN. WE SUBMITTED THOSE 60% PLANS IN MARCH, AND THEN WE RECEIVED COMMENTS IN APRIL FOR THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT EXISTING WELLFIELD ACCESS. AND THEN ON MAY 12TH WE RECEIVED OR SORRY, WE HAD A REVIEW MEETING TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE. AND THEN ON THE 29TH, WE WERE GIVEN A NEW WELLHEAD LOCATION. SO WE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED OFF OF THAT THAT I WANT TO WALK THROUGH. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED, YOU'LL SEE A RUNNING TRACK ABOUT A QUARTER MILE LOOPING AROUND AN INTERIOR PORTION THERE WITH FIVE CORE STATIONS, THE OUTDOOR WORKOUT AREAS. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO THE WELLFIELD THAT WE NEED, AND THE NEW PROPOSED ONE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON A IN THE RIGHT HAND DIAGRAM ON THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER, WE HAD TO AGGLOMERATE THE CORE STATION TO MAKE IT ONE LOCATED AREA. IT WORKS EITHER WAY, BUT BECAUSE OF THIS, UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE ABLE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO KEEP THE RUNNING TRACK. BUT WE STILL HAVE THE TRAIL AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE PARK IN ORDER FOR THE CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS THE PARKING LOT THERE. THE ONLY OTHER AREA THAT REALLY CHANGED HERE IS C AND D, SEE ON THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER BETWEEN A AND B, THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE AREA OF REINFORCED CONCRETE THAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE BOOM TRUCK THAT NEEDS TO ACCESS THOSE WELL, FIELDS. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A GOOD SIZE FOOTPRINT THERE. AND THEN E WE HAD TO REMOVE TWO PARKING SPACES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS. SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE YOU'LL SEE THE RUNNING TRACK AS PROPOSED WITH THE INDIVIDUAL STATIONS. AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE NOW WITH AN AGGLOMERATED PORTION. THE LAST THING ON THE WELL FIELD IS THAT WE PROVIDED THIS DIAGRAM FOR REVIEW STILL PENDING APPROVAL, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IT WORKS. WE WERE ABLE TO RUN OUR AUTO RUN ANALYSIS, AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THAT TRUCK, THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF A DIMENSION OF THE PARKING.

IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THAT SWING OF THE BOOM TRUCK. THE LAST PORTION HERE OF THE ADDITION OF

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ONCE WE DID THAT AND ENGAGED THE MASTER PLAN, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK TO FPL. THE FPL AT THAT TIME HAD CHANGED. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY TOLD US THAT THEY NEEDED A PERMIT AND THAT THEY NEEDED 100% ELECTRICAL DRAWINGS IN ORDER TO GIVE US A QUOTE OR MOVE FORWARD. SO WE DECIDED TO DO UTILITY EASEMENT AND TITLE SEARCH EXPLORATION TO UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE THINGS WOULD BE NEEDED.

AND THAT FURTHER TOOK US TO APRIL 29TH, WHERE WE HAD A NEW MEETING WITH A NEW FPL PROJECT MANAGER, OUR THIRD ONE, WHO WAS ABLE TO FINALLY GET PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE PLANS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DURING THE MEETING AND THE AND THE SCOPE. SO THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING REVISED. THE DRAINAGE STUDY AND REPORT, THAT'S A HEFTY ONE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO BASINS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE PARK, ONE NOT PERMITTED, THE ONE, THE LARGER ONE THAT IS ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE PARK IS NOW BEING BROUGHT UP TO THE DEMANDS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, WHICH IS, YOU'LL SEE ON THE THIRD BULLET. THERE'S A LOT OF TEXT. I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS, I PROMISE. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE THIRD BULLET THERE THAT IT'S DESIGNED IN ORDER TO CONTAIN A 25 YEAR, THREE DAY STORM WITHIN THE POND THAT'S CURRENTLY THE DESIGN DEMANDS. AND BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA, YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, LATER ON, WE'LL HAVE A QUICK CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PARKING. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHY IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE BEING PROPOSED. CURRENTLY IN THE PARKING LOT. WE ARE EXPLORING THE ABILITY TO TAKE THAT AWAY JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ONE COST SAVINGS AND TWO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO INVEST THAT INTO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE PARK. BUT JUST TO KNOW THAT THAT IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, THE IRRIGATION COORDINATION, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS RECLAIM. WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OUR NEW SERVICE. WE HAD A MEETING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON SITE, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE CURRENT SERVICE IS AT CAPACITY SERVICING ALL OF THE FIELDS ON THE EAST PORTION OF THE PARK. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT NEW SERVICE. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY AWAITING THE DIRECTION ON WHERE WE SHOULD STUB OUT IF IT'S ON THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH PORTION OF IT. IDEALLY IT COMES FROM THE SOUTH, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER COST ESTIMATE ONCE WE GET THAT DIRECTION. SO DESIGN COSTS. I TOOK THE COST ESTIMATE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, AND I SPLIT IT UP INTO WHAT I CALL THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. SO YOU'LL SEE STARTING FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, THE SOFT COSTS ARE COMING IN AT AROUND 760. THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR MOBILIZATION. THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR PERMITTING. THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR MOW ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF THOSE CONTRACTOR UPFRONT FEES YOUR GENERAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE ARE YOUR FURNISHINGS. THOSE ARE YOUR WALKWAYS AND THINGS THAT DOVETAIL INTO THAT ELECTRICAL SERVICE AS YOUR LIGHTING, NOT INCLUDING THE POLE FIXTURES, BUT INCLUDING ALL THE CONDUITS AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT. YOUR PARKING IS SITTING AT ABOUT 1.4. AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE PERVIOUS CALCULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. SO A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS MATERIAL, IMPERVIOUS PAVERS OR SORRY, PERVIOUS PAVERS, YOUR PERVIOUS CONCRETE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY ADDING UP INTO THAT PORTION. YOUR MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD IS AT 722, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTING. THE MUSCO LIGHTING IS COMING IN AT AROUND 450, I BELIEVE. FORGIVE ME IF I GOT THAT NUMBER WRONG, BUT THE REST OF IT IS REALLY JUST THE GRADING AND SOD YOUR PLAYGROUND AND WATER PLAY THAT'S RESURFACING THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND AND THE EXPANSION OF THE WATER PLAY. YOU'RE COMING IN AT 388, RIGHT? SO AS YOU GO DOWN, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS ARE SITTING AT YOUR GENERAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS, YOUR PARKING AND YOUR DRAINAGE AT THE MILLIONS. WE DO HAVE 1.1 MILLION IN CONTINGENCIES. THAT'S A 20% ON THE SUBTOTAL. I WILL SAY THAT EACH AREA OF THE BIG TICKET ITEM

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SO THE NEXT ONE HERE IS THE ALTERNATIVES. SO WE HAVE ALL THESE PRICED OUT AS WELL. AND ON THE LAST ONE YOU'LL SEE THERE A CREDIT. SO THIS IS CURRENTLY USING IF WE WERE TO USE ASPHALT IN LIEU OF PERVIOUS CONCRETE, WE'RE SITTING AT AROUND $157,000 CREDIT. AND THAT COULD BE EXPANDED EVEN MORE. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THIS NUMBER IS FOR HEAVY USE VEHICLES. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BOOM TRUCKS COMING IN EVERY NOW AND THEN. BUT IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SAVE MORE ON THAT, THERE IS A CHANCE THERE TOO. SO WE'RE STUDYING THAT. THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SCHEDULING IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND, AND WHERE WE CAN FINALIZE THIS. SO ON TRACK ONE, YOU'LL SEE IF WE WERE TO BUILD SKATE PARK FIRST HOW THAT LOOKS.

AND THEN TRACK TWO, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS HOW THE SKATE PARK CAN BE BUILT WITH THE PARK AND WHAT THAT TRACK LOOKS LIKE. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT. SO IF WE WERE TO GO IN TO OUR 100% PLANS RIGHT NOW WITH MINIMAL MODIFICATIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SUBMITTING TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BY AUGUST 14TH, HOPEFULLY. IF ANYBODY KNOWS THE PROCESS OF DRAINAGE PERMITS, IT'S A FUN ONE. THE FIRST SUBMISSION IS TYPICALLY 90 DAYS OF REVIEW. THEN YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO RESUBMIT. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF 120 DAYS OF REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SO THAT MEANS BY DECEMBER WE COULD HAVE A PERMIT. IF ALL GOES RIGHT IN IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT FPL COORDINATION. WE'LL BE WORKING ON ALL OF THE CROSSING THE T'S AND DOTTING THE I'S SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THE PARK OUT FOR RFP BY MARCH OF 2026. FORGIVE THE YEARS ON TOP, WHICH THEN MEANS THAT WE GO INTO THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS AROUND MAY. THE CONTRACTOR CAN MOBILIZE IN JULY AND CONSTRUCTION STARTS IN AUGUST. IF WE DO TRACK TWO OR TRACK ONE, SORRY. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THE SKATE PARK WOULD BRING THEIR PORTION OF THE PLANS TO 100%.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXPEDITE THAT. I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME CODE RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF ACCESS TO THE SKATE PARK. WE MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE PARKING. WE'LL HAVE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THE TREE MITIGATION. THE DRAINAGE REPORT WOULD HAVE TO BE SEPARATED. SO ALL OF THOSE PORTIONS OF IT WOULD HAVE TO GET TAGGED ON TO THAT. THAT PORTION OF IT WOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR PERMIT BY, I BELIEVE, SEPTEMBER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE DOMINOES FALL FOR THAT PORTION. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A CONSTRUCTED SKATE PARK, YOU KNOW, WITH CONTINGENCIES APPLIED HOPEFULLY BY AUGUST. DURING THAT TIME, THE PARK WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A PAUSE. REASON BEING IS WE WOULD STILL BE ADVANCING THE FPL COORDINATION AND EVERYTHING THAT WE SAID, BUT WE WOULD NEED THE AS BUILT OF THAT IN ORDER TO THEN REVISE THE DRAINAGE REPORT AND COME BACK TO THAT SO THAT THEN WE CAN RESUBMIT TO. AND GET THAT FINALIZED SO THAT THEN ONCE WE GET THE AS BUILTS, WE THEN PICK BACK UP, WE THEN ENTER INTO OUR PERMITTING AND THEN WE WOULD GO INTO CONSTRUCTION. THE ONLY OTHER CAVEAT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IS THE FUNCTIONING OF THE SKATE PARK DURING THAT PERIOD OF CONSTRUCTION, SINCE IT IS ENCAPSULATED WITHIN THE PARK. IF THE IF THE FULL SCOPE OF THE AREA AROUND THE SKATE PARK ISN'T BUILT, WE WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE THE SKATE PARK DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR SAFETY CONCERNS. ONCE A CONTRACTOR MOBILIZES, THEN THE SKATE PARK WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO CAVEATS WITHIN THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I RAN THROUGH THOSE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO. SO THANK YOU. JUST ONE MORE SLIDE. AFTER THE THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS AWARE. WE DO GET THE MANUFACTURERS NUMBERS. I JUST WANT TO SHOW EVERYONE HOW WE'RE GETTING THESE PRICES. SO WE'LL GET THE QUOTE ON TOP. WE'LL GET THE AMOUNT. THE SUBTOTAL WILL THEN COME. THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE ADD THE TAX, WE ADD A CONTRACTOR MARKUP. WE ADD THE INSTALL AND FOOTING. WE ADD THE FREIGHT. IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED INTO THE PRICE THEN WE'LL PUT A CONTINGENCY ON IT. AND THEN THAT'S HOW WE GET OUR NUMBER PER POLE. WE DO THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE ITEM. SO THERE'S ALWAYS A GOOD FLUCTUATION THERE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER. AND WE'RE WE'RE REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD TO YOU GUYS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SO FAR. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. MR. VICE MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EITHER OR FOR MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO THAT TIMELINE? YEAH. BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INCLUDED IN

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IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING. NOT NECESSARILY ON HOLD. WE WOULD WE WOULD STILL BE GOING AS IF WE WERE SUBMITTING FOR PERMIT, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR THE PERMIT UNTIL WE GOT THE AS BIDS FROM THE SKATE PARK CONSTRUCTION. WHY? BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE WERE DOING ALL THAT IN THE BACKGROUND. ANYWAY, WE'RE IT'S PRESENTED HERE AS EVERYTHING STOPS ON THE PARK RIGHT NOW. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH CORRECT PARK WITHIN THE PARK. THIS WAS JUST TO SHOW YOU IF WE WERE IF THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO JUST DO THE SKATE PARK. WE JUST WANTED TO SEE YOU TO SEE THE SCHEDULE. BUT THAT SCHEDULE IS NOT ACCURATE AS DEPICTED HERE. THEN THE FOR BUILDING SKATE PARK FIRST. THAT'S NOT AN ACCURATE DEPICTION IN THAT INFOGRAPHIC, BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY DOING THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PARK. ALREADY, RIGHT? WE ARE. SO THIS IS NOT AN ACCURATE GRAPHIC THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A THING THAT THE COMMISSION'S ALREADY VOTED FOR, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT, THAT WE VOTED TO HAVE THE SKATE PARK OPEN FIRST? YEAH. THE COMMISSION DIRECTION WAS TO IMMEDIATELY MOVE FORWARD ON THE SKATE PARK AND NOT TO LET THE PARK HOLD UP THE SKATE PARK. CORRECT. BUT IT WAS NOT TO HALT. GUY DAVIS PARK, CORRECT. THE PARK WAS IN PLAY FOR THREE YEARS BEFORE THE CORRECT. WHERE THIS GRAPHIC MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE HOLDING UP THE REST OF THE PARK FOR THE SKATE PARK. I DON'T THINK THE INTENTION IS TO SAY THAT ANYTHING IS HOLDING UP WELL. YOU HAVE BLOCKED OUT THE REST OF THE PARK UNDERNEATH FROM HAPPENING. UNFORTUNATELY, THE PARK WOULD GO UP UNTIL THE POINT WHERE IT CAN SUBMIT TO PERMIT, BUT THE PARK CAN'T SUBMIT FOR A DRAINAGE PERMIT. IF THE SKATE PARK WOULD BE PUT IN FIRST, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO PULL ITS OWN PERMIT SINCE IT'S GOING INTO THE GROUND. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO PORTRAY HERE, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TREAT IT AS TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS AND WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SKATE PARK, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT, AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE OVERALL PARK UNTIL WE GET THE PERMITS FROM SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT FOR THE SKATE PARK GOING CONSTRUCTION AND GET AS BUILT. ONCE WE HAVE AS BUILT, THEN WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH. THEN YOU CAN FILE FOR THAT FOR SOUTH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. NO. NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY. YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE STATE PARK IS COMPLETED ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS. WHY DON'T WE JUST FORWARD THE. VICE MAYOR? WELL THEN. OKAY, THE VICE MAYOR. BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE TACTICS, THEN THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN ON THIS BOARD. THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THIS IS A CRA. BUT WE VOTED IN THE COMMISSION TO DO THE OTHER ALREADY. SO THE COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY. SO 100% OF THE FUNDING FOR THE SKATE PARK AND 100% OF THE FUNDING FOR THE PARK ARE COMING FROM THE CRA. SO WHEN WE RECEIVE THE LEGISLATIVE FUNDING FOR GUY DAVIS, THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY YOURSELF, BY YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO SECONDED TO ADD A SKATE PARK.

AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, YOU SAID TO HAVE IT SEPARATELY AND IT NOT SEPARATE FIRST. FIRST NOT SEPARATE. I VOTE THEY COULDN'T HAVE GONE FIRST BECAUSE THE PARK WAS ALREADY THERE AND WE ALREADY HAD FUNDING AND WE ALREADY HAD DESIGN, SO WE COULDN'T HAVE TURNED THE PARK. THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THIS. THIS WAS NOT IN OUR PACKET. I DIDN'T SEE THIS EITHER. THIS IS A BIG RECOMMENDATION. NOW, NOBODY'S HAD THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER THIS OR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THE IMPLICATION IS WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. AND THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE THE VOTE THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE PRESENTATION. BUT WE'RE NOW SORT OF FISHING FOR THAT DIRECTION TO HAVE THIS BOARD VOTE. RIGHT.

THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT THIS BOARD CANNOT DOES NOT HAVE THE DATA IT NEEDS TO MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT BUT WHAT THE BOARD VOTED FOR WAS TO SEPARATE THE PARK, NOT SEPARATE. GO FIRST. IT WELL SEPARATE AND HAVE IT BE ITS OWN SEPARATE. YOU'RE CATEGORY AT A DIFFERENT TIME. I WOULD AND SO WE FUNDED SEPARATE MONEY FOR THE SKATE PARK. AND AS I WAS SAYING IT WAS IT'S NOT SEPARATE. IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GUIDE. ENTIRE GUY DAVIS. NO, NO ABSOLUTELY NOT. HOPEFULLY ULTIMATELY IT'S COMING OUT OF THIS OVERALL 100%. SO IT'S ON OUR PAGE THAT'S SAYING 1010

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AND NO, NO, JUST HISTORICALLY TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED. THE COMMISSION VOTED AND SAID, YES, WE WILL REMOVE THE PARKING LOT AND DEDICATE THAT TRIANGLE TO A SKATE PARK. AND THEN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE. BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE NONE OF THAT INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY HERE TO REVIEW. SO YOU GUYS I KNOW, BUT IF THE PLAN NOW IS TO HAVE THIS BOARD VOTE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALONG THOSE LINES, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, THIS BOARD SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION IN THE PACKET, INCLUDING THIS SLIDE, INSTEAD OF ON THE FLY POTENTIAL VOTE TO REORGANIZE THE WHOLE THING. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE I THOUGHT THIS WOULD COME UP. YOU KNOW, THIS SKATE PARK MOVING FIRST, I WANTED THE CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE THE TIMELINE. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SKATE PARK FIRST, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? AND IF WE WERE TO DO IT TOGETHER, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? BUT TO THE DIRECTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SKATE PARK FIRST. AND IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, WE CAN.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU, THAT IF WE DO THAT, DROPPING A GRENADE INTO THIS MEETING WITH THIS SLIDE, THAT NOBODY HAD ACCESS TO THE VOTING OR ANY OF THE BACKGROUND DATA WAS WHAT THE GRENADE WAS. THERE WAS NO PRESENTATION OF THAT BEFOREHAND. THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF STORMWATER AT ALL. AND IF THIS WAS AN ISSUE, THAT VOTE HAPPENED WHEN OCTOBER LAST YEAR AND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. AND NOW WE'RE NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO BE IN AUGUST. AND THIS WAS IF THIS WOULD YOU ALLOW IF THIS HAS BEEN NO IF THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FROM THEN UNTIL NOW, WHY IS THIS COMING UP NOW? WELL, WE'VE BEEN MOVING BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY. SO IF SO, WE HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT.

IT'S NOT THAT WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH SKATE PARK FIRST. WE CAN. NOW WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO IS JUST SUBMIT TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT JUST FOR THE SKATE PARK. CORRECT. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE STORMWATER SHOWING THAT WE'RE JUST DOING THE SKATE PARK, AND THAT'S APPLICATION WE WOULD MAKE. WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISE OUR CURRENT REPORT, BECAUSE

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CORRECT? IT SAID TO DO THEM TOGETHER, BUT NOT TO LET GUY DAVIS HOLD UP THE SKATE PARK.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE WHOLE TIME. WE'VE NEVER, EVER HAD GUY DAVIS STEP IN FRONT OF THE SKATE PARK WHEN THE STATE DIDN'T HAVE THIS FUNDING THIS TIME AND DIDN'T INCORPORATE THE SKATE PARK, WE IMMEDIATELY ADDED TO AMEND TO THE BUDGET $700,000 TO MAKE SURE THERE'D BE 100% FUNDING FOR THE SKATE PARK WITHOUT ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS OR ANY HOLD UPS OR ANYTHING. AND WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR THAT.

THE DESIGN HE GAVE US, THE CALENDAR DATES OF WHERE THEY SPOKE WITH BORN RANCH AND WHEN THEY SPOKE TO THE OTHER ONE, WAS THE CITY'S ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE WELL, ALL LIKE MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH. NOTHING SAYING THIS WENT AHEAD OF THE SKATE PARK BECAUSE NOTHING DID.

AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS HERE'S OUR OPTIONS. WE CAN DO THE SKATE PARK FIRST, BUT IT APPEARS THAT IF WE DO THAT THE WAY THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS GOING TO TREAT IT, IS THAT BECAUSE THE STORMWATER IS GOING TO BE SEPARATE, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TWO STORMWATER PERMITS. IT COULD CAUSE DELAYS. AGAIN, NOT MAKING A SKATE PARK, SECOND SKATE PARK WOULD STILL BE FIRST. IT WOULD JUST CREATE DELAYS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TO SUBMIT THE STORMWATER AS ONE SO THAT IT CAN BE COMPLETED, AND THEN GO FORWARD. THERE WILL BE A TIME, AS HE MENTIONED, THAT THE SKATE PARK IS FINISHED, AND THEN IT HAS TO BE CLOSED TO FINISH GUY DAVIS BECAUSE OF LANDSCAPING AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION AND ACCESS. BECAUSE OF THE JUST THE SAFETY ISSUES DURING THAT, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE CLOSED FOR MONTHS ON END, BUT THERE'LL BE DAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS AND THEY FENCE IT OFF OR DO WHATEVER THEY DO TO MAKE IT NOT BE OPEN WHILE THEY FINISH PAY DAY. BUT THE PRESENTATION I GOT, I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING THAT THE SKATE PARK WAS NOT GOING FOR OR THAT IT WASN'T AHEAD OF. DO YOU FORESEE IN THE SAME WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMITS, DO YOU FORESEE ANY OTHER OBSTACLES LIKE THIS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT ONCE? NOW, IF YOU'RE SAYING IF THE SKATE PARK WERE TO LIKE GO INTO CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, NEXT MONTH PER SE, WELL, THE TREE DISPOSITION AND MITIGATION WOULD HAVE TO BE TREATED SEPARATELY, AT LEAST FOR THAT PORTION, WHICH IS A SEPARATE PERMIT WITH THE CITY. RIGHT. YOU HAVE REPLACED THOSE FEES ARE PAID TO THE MITIGATION. SO IF WE SEPARATE THEM, SKATE PARK HAS TO PUT TREES IN THE SKATE PARK IF THEY'RE ONE PROJECT TOGETHER THAT IT DISPLACES RIGHT. ABSORB THE TREES. AND THEN THERE IS NO MITIGATION BECAUSE THEY GET PLANTED IN THE PARK AND THEREFORE IT DOESN'T MITIGATE BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SUFFICIENT TREES. THE FOOTPRINT OF IMPACT THAT THAT REALLY DETERMINES THAT. YOU. NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE TO COME BACK. TO THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE. ONES AHEAD. OH I'M SORRY, BOARD MEMBER, BUT YEAH, I JUST HAVE I JUST HAVE A QUICK

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AND THEN WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE, IT WAS A $7 MILLION MATCH FOR THE $500,000.

DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SKATE PARK, DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SPLASH PAD, DIDN'T INCLUDE A POOL, DIDN'T INCLUDE OTHER STUFF. AND EVEN BY THE TIME THOSE NUMBERS CAME BACK FROM THE STATE, WE KNEW THAT NUMBER WAS OVER 8 OR 8 AND A HALF. AND THEN LAST YEAR WE SAW THE NUMBERS GETTING CLOSE TO NINE. AND SO WITH TARIFFS AND CEMENT COSTS AND LIKE WE SAID, THE PRE-COVID NUMBERS ARE JUST SIMPLY WHAT THEY WERE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT EVER WAS A $5 MILLION NUMBER. ALL RIGHT. WELL I KNOW IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS BACK THEN IN THE DAY, BUT I'M OLD AND I FORGET NOW. SO NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS. IN THE IS ANY OF THIS MONEY FOR THIS GOING TO THE BALL FIELDS FOOTBALL BASKETBALL. IS ANY OF IT FOR THAT OR IS THIS, IS THIS I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE SHOWING BASKETBALL COURTS AND ADDITIONAL FOOTBALL, ADDITIONAL BASEBALL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT PORTION OF THE PARK IS GOING TO THAT. YEAH, THE FOOTPRINT BOUNDARY THAT WAS GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE RFP PROCESS IS ALWAYS TERMINATED AT THE PARKING LOT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER ON THE NORTH PARCEL, GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE EXISTING FENCE AND PATHWAY WHERE THE EXISTING RESTROOM IS AND STRAIGHT DOWN. SO NONE OF THE FIELDS HAVE EVER BEEN INCLUDED INTO THE SCOPE. SO, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, AND FOR ACTIVITIES AND THE SPORTS ASPECT OF THAT, PARTICULARLY THE SOCCER, THE FOOTBALL, LACROSSE ARE HUGE OUT THERE. THERE'S TONS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, TONS OF KIDS OUT THERE ALL DAY AND NIGHT. AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF CONCERNED THAT NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF IS REALLY, REALLY NICE. BUT GIVEN THE CHOICE OF A SPLASH PAD OR AN INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT, I THINK PROBABLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE WOULD RATHER HAVE AN INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT OR EXCEPT FOR THE PAD. AND THE INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT WAS ANOTHER 8 TO 10 MILLION. WELL, I MEAN, MAYBE WE COULD BORROW THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. SO THEIRS IS REALLY NICE. THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM. OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I UNDERSTAND WE ARE ADDING. CAN I ASK YOU TO BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE MULTI-PURPOSE. YES. 722,000. I ASSUME THOSE ARE THE BALL FIELDS. WE'RE PROPOSING A LARGE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK AS AN EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOR OVERFLOW OF THE EXISTING FIELDS. SO THAT'S THAT'S SIZE TO, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE FOOTBALL PRACTICE, ITS SIZE TO APPROPRIATE LACROSSE, SOCCER. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY PLAY RUGBY CURRENTLY THAT FIELD OKAY. SO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD IS I SAW THE SKATE PARK AND IT'S PRETTY COOL. BUT IT'S IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, THAT THERE'S KIND OF AN AREA THAT'S MORE FOR ADVANCED AND KIND OF AN AREA THAT'S MORE FOR BEGINNERS. AND THE ONE THING I SEE GOING TO DIFFERENT SKATE PARKS AROUND MARTIN COUNTY IS THAT IF KIDS ARE TRYING TO LEARN, THERE'S ADVANCED SKATERS OUT THERE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE REALLY GOOD AT TAKING UP THE FACILITY.

AND, AND THE YOUNGER KIDS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME, YOU KNOW, FINDING A PLACE TO TRY THINGS WITHOUT KILLING THEMSELVES. SO I DON'T WANT MY GRANDKIDS TO KILL MYSELF. SO. SO THE QUESTION I HAD IS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, THIS THING CAN ALL BE FUNDED BY THE CRA BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CRA.

RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO SPEND MONEY ON IN THE CRA BECAUSE WE DON'T SPEND IT ON THE CRA. IT'S GOT TO BE SPENT THE CRA. SO TO SOME DEGREE, I THINK THE FUNDING IS NOT AS MUCH OF A QUESTION, BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO PULL THE SKATE PARK OUT OF THIS THING AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE BY ITSELF WITHIN THE PROJECT, THAT IT WOULD BE SEPARATE OF THE DRAINAGE, SEPARATE OF ALL OF THIS. AND WE COULD JUST GET A SKATE PARK, A SKATE PARK

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THAT'S ALL MY QUESTION. BOARD MEMBER MOSER. OH, YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO GO AROUND THE ROOM WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS OR IF NOW'S AN OKAY TIME. I'VE GOT A PRETTY BIG LIST. NO GOOD. PROCEED. OKAY. A LONG LIST. I KNOW I GOT IT DOWN TO TWO FACES.

YES. SO I, I'VE ACTUALLY SENT MOST OF THESE IN IN A SKETCH ALREADY AND I'M, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME, SO I'LL TRY AND GO THROUGH THE ONES I THINK THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT. FIRST OF ALL, I'LL SAY I DID BOTHER TO GET THE 90% CPU SET, AND SHE SAID THAT TO ME TODAY. SO I WAS ABLE TO REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. A TREE PALM PLANTING PLAN. RIGHT NOW WE'VE ONLY GOT 21 NEW TREES AND NINE NEW PALM TREES CALLED OUT IN OUR 90% AND SAID, AND THAT'S A REALLY BIG SITE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE TREES. ANYBODY'S BEEN OUTSIDE TODAY. IT'S REALLY HOT. AND THOSE TREES, I THINK WOULD BE HUGELY BENEFICIAL. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT SPOTS WHERE I THINK THEY COULD GO. IN AND AROUND THE PARKING LOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IN YOUR ORIGINAL PLAN YOU HAD A LOT MORE TREES IN THE NEW PLAN. THERE ARE A LOT LESS TREES. THERE'S THE SAYING THAT I HEARD A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND IT'S REALLY STUCK WITH ME. EVERYBODY WANTS TO PARK IN THE SHADE. NOBODY WANTS TO PLANT A TREE. AROUND THE PLAYGROUND AND WATER AREA. WE'RE GETTING THE NEW RESURFACING FOR THE PLAYGROUND. THERE'S SHADE SAILS OUT THERE ALREADY. I'VE BEEN TO THE NEW LANGFORD PARK WITH THE SHADE SAILS AND THE NEW RESURFACED PLAYGROUND, AND IT IS SO HOT. IT'S JUST REALLY NOT MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE. NOT LIKE A TREE WOULD. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT LITTLE KIDS PLAYING AND WE NEED TO KEEP THEM COOL WITHIN AND AROUND THE EXERCISE AREA, AROUND THE PROPOSED AND THE EXISTING ATHLETIC FIELDS. MY KIDS ARE OUT THERE PLAYING LACROSSE. THEY DID THE SMART START PROGRAM WHERE I LIVE DOWN THE STREET. WE'RE AT THIS PARK A LOT, AND IN THE EVENINGS WHEN THE SUN IS SETTING, IT'S BRUTALLY HOT OUT THERE. IT'S ALSO HARD TO SEE. SO NOT JUST AROUND THE PROPOSED ATHLETIC FIELD, BUT THE EXISTING ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE TRACK AROUND THAT PERIMETER, I THINK WOULD BE

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I JUST THINK THE MORE TREES BETTER. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO. I DID SEND A SKETCH TO FINAL TODAY OF LIKE, THIS IS THE PLAN WITH WHAT TREES ARE EXISTING AND WHAT TREES ARE PROPOSED. AND THEN I JUST, I THINK IF WE HAND THEM TO THE CLERK, SHE CAN SHE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE'LL JUST GIVE A COPY TO THE CLERK. OKAY. THAT'S JUST LIKE THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY OF TREES I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THIS PARK TO MAKE IT A SUCCESSFUL YEAR ROUND PARK. OTHERWISE. JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. WE CAN'T USE MOST OF THESE AMENITIES. AS THAT GETS PASSED AROUND, I WILL SAY THAT I DO THINK THAT MAYBE A SYMBOL WAS MISSED BECAUSE ALTHOUGH YES, THERE ARE ONLY 21 TREES WERE RELOCATING ABOUT 100 PALMS THROUGHOUT. I KNOW PALMS DON'T PROVIDE THE MOST AMOUNT OF SHADE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THEY ARE ESTABLISHED IF YOU'VE SEEN THEM, YOU KNOW 25 30FT SOMETHING MIGHT BE MISSING. AND THE EXISTING TREES AND RELOCATION PLAN, IT DOESN'T CALL OUT SPECIES, SO I CAN'T TELL. AND THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE HAVE ON THAT, OF COURSE, IS THAT IF THE DIRECTION IS TO MAYBE MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PALMS, WE CAN REMOVE THEM AND MITIGATE THEM FOR SHADE TREES IN LIEU OF THE RELOCATION, BECAUSE RELOCATION ISN'T CHEAP EITHER. BUT YEAH, SURE. AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, FLAGLER PARK HAS A TON OF PALM TREES AND IT ACTUALLY IS PRETTY WELL SHADED, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY BEEF UP THE DENSITY TO MAKE THAT WORK. A COUPLE OTHER NOTES ABOUT THE TREES. SO WHAT I SAW ON THE TREE LIST IS COULD YOU JUST HOLD THE MIC? OH, SURE. YEAH. WHAT I SAW IN THE TREE LIST. AND I'LL BE LOUDER. WHAT I SAW ON THE TREE LIST ARE CRAPE MYRTLE PINES, SWEET ACACIA, AND CABBAGE PALMETTO. I WOULD NOT ACTUALLY CALL ANY OF THOSE A CANOPY SHADE TREE, EVEN A SLASH PINE, WHICH DOES GIVE GOOD SHADE. IT'S SO TALL THAT THAT SHADE IS MOVING AROUND ALL DAY, SO YOU DON'T LIKE GET A DEDICATED SHADE SPACE, THE SWEET ACACIA, UNLESS IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE SAME NAME FOR DIFFERENT PLANTS, BUT WHAT I'M ENVISIONING IS A SMALL TREE WITH YELLOW FLOWERS AND THORNS, AND WE'VE GOT IT SPECKED RIGHT BY THE KIDS WATER PLAY AREA, SO THOSE NEED TO GO. I THINK WE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO REVISIT THE TREE LIST. I THINK THE PLANTING LIST IS GREAT. YOU GOT A LOT OF NATIVE SPECIES. BUT IN TERMS OF THE TREE LIST, WE I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE AN IMPACT WITH HOW MUCH SHADE. AND THESE ARE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE THAT. LET'S SEE THE CONCESSION STAND. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THESE COMMENTS BECAUSE I, I'M SORRY YOU'RE AT 90%. NO NO NO PANELS GOT THE LIST BUT YOU'RE AT 90%.

AND I APOLOGIZE THERE LATE IN THE GAME. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST CHANCE I'VE HAD TO MAKE COMMENTS, AND IT'S MY CHANCE FOR THE COMMISSION TO HEAR MY THOUGHTS. I LIKED THAT EXTRA SHADE TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING FOR THE CONCESSION STAND. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT STAY. I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU ORDER YOUR FOOD, YOU CAN STAND UNDER THERE, YOU'RE AT A FOOTBALL GAME AT THAT ATHLETIC FIELD. IT STARTS RAINING. YOU CAN RUN UNDER THERE FOR SHELTER.

I JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD AMENITY. A LOT OF SAINT AUGUSTINE GRASS IN THE PARKING LOT, $33,000 WORTH THAT. GRASS LIKES A LOT OF WATER. THAT SITE IS VERY SANDY. I'VE GOT GRASS IN MY BACKYARD. IT REQUIRES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE, A LOT OF WATER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST SPEC FOR THAT AREA. SITE FURNISHINGS. THEY'RE REALLY BEAUTIFUL. I LOOKED THEM UP, BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF WOOD TOPS AND OUR SUN AND OUR WEATHER. THOSE GET WORN DOWN REALLY QUICKLY. SO I MIGHT VISIT A DIFFERENT MODEL. PARKING. WE ARE SPENDING $1.4 MILLION ON 100 NEW PARKING SPACES AND ALL. AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE REASON WE NEED 100 PARKING SPACES IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS. BASED ON EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL ELEMENTS. THIS IS THE ONE TIME I WOULD ASK THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS RECONSIDER HOW MUCH PARKING YOU'RE REQUIRING FOR THIS AREA. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT BIG PARK. I THINK IT'S OUT BY THE INTERSTATE OFF HIGHWAY. NOBODY, NOBODY CAN WALK TO THAT PARK. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO DRIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NO HOUSES AROUND IT. BUT THIS PARK HAS A TON OF RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH, A TON OF RESIDENTS TO THE EAST. SO WE HAVE OPTIONS. WE CAN WALK, WE CAN BIKE, WE CAN DRIVE. I'M JUST

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AND I JUST WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW I'M DRIVING TO THIS SITE AS A STEWARD RESIDENT, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THAT ROUTE. SO IT JUST FEELS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY BEING SPENT IN AN AREA THAT MAYBE IS NOT HIGHLY TRAFFICKED, NOT AT LEAST BY STEWART RESIDENTS. I MEAN, IF I'M COMING FROM PALM CITY, I PARK THERE. BONNIE, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU. YEAH, SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO BE, TOO.

YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO ACCUSATORY. I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND ACCUSATORY. I THINK THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO USE IT, BUT IT'S IN THE CITY OF STEWART AND IT'S PAID FOR BY OUR CRA. AND SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT MATTER THE MOST WHEN YOU'RE DESIGNING IT ARE ARE THE STEWART RESIDENTS. AND IF YOU JUST ZOOM OUT ON A MAP AND MAYBE GOOGLE LIKE A DOT MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE LIKE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, PEOPLE LIVE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST OF THIS AREA. AND MAYBE PARKING IS BETTER PROVIDED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IF YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU'D ACCESS IT MORE REGULARLY. NOW, IF I'M COMING FROM PALM CITY AND I'M TAKING MONTEREY TO DIXIE HIGHWAY, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD GO. BUT, YOU KNOW, AM I GOING TO SPEND $1.4 MILLION FOR PEOPLE TO PARK? YOU DON'T LIVE IN MY CITY VERSUS THE PARKING OFF THE 14TH STREET. OH, THIRD OFF OF 10TH STREET. AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE AND PARNELL'S GOT IT IN HER BUDGET FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TO REDESIGN THAT PORTION OF 10TH STREET. RIGHT NOW THAT STREET IS 30FT WIDE. AND WE'VE HAD SOME FOLKS COME IN AND TALK ABOUT SPEEDING, ESPECIALLY IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. YOU COULD PROBABLY GET ABOUT 50 PARKING SPACES STRIPED ON 10TH STREET FOR A REALLY CHEAP PARALLEL PARKING JUST ALONG THE ROAD WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES, JUST STRIPE IT. AND SO JUST IF I'M GOING TO BE A BUDGET HAWK, THAT'S JUST A MORE EFFICIENT, EFFICIENT USE OF THE DOLLARS. WE'VE. MARK TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN TERMS OF I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE SCOPE, BUT THE EXISTING BASEBALL FIELD, ATHLETIC FIELDS, TRACK AND THEN JUST THE GENERALLY THE ENTRANCES OFF OF 10TH STREET OR 10TH STREET, RESIDENTS AND FOLKS THAT ARE DRIVING INTO THE PARK BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEW PROGRAM PROGRAMING UP THERE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUT OF THE SCOPE, BUT I THINK LIKE THE TINIEST BIT, PUTTING TREES AROUND THOSE ATHLETIC FIELDS, PROVIDING SOME BENCHES IF YOU WANT TO GET REALLY FUN AND CREATIVE, WHERE FOLKS ARE PLAYING DOMINOES UNDER THOSE OAK TREES, PUTTING IN SOME PERMANENT TABLES SO THAT THEY COULD DO SO, I JUST THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT USE OF OUR DOLLARS.

AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CLARK. OKAY. MAY NOT BE AS FUNNY, BUT OKAY. SO SOMEBODY MENTIONED. OH, PEOPLE WHY DON'T THEY CREDIT FOR NEW OPEN WORLD OR SOMETHING. OKAY.

SO JUST IN THE LINE OF WHAT WAS WAS MENTIONING, LET'S JUST BE CLEAR. MAYBE I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME. SORRY. SO THAT YOU WOULD. DOMINIC. DOMINIC. DOMINIC. OKAY. MAYBE HE CAN GO BACK TO

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IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN UNDERNEATH THAT. BUT THERE'S A BASKETBALL COURT HERE AS WELL. THIS IS ALL IN EXISTENCE NOW. THIS FIELD IS NOT REALLY IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW. THIS FIELD ALREADY EXISTS.

IT'S NOT IN THAT CONDITION. THIS FIELD ALREADY EXISTS. AND THIS TRACK AND FIELD ALREADY EXISTS TO SOME EXTENT. THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSIST OF THIS AREA. AND THEN THE SKATEBOARD PARK TO IS DOWN HERE AS WELL. LIKE THERE'S A TRIANGLE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S KIND OF JUST BEEN PART OF THIS PROPERTY. PARKING IT. BONNIE WAS TALKING ABOUT HERE. THERE'S ALREADY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING. THESE TREES ARE NEW, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PARKING WATER TREATMENT PLANT HERE FOR PEOPLE PARK AND ACCESS TO THESE FIELDS. NOW, IT'S ALSO UNPAID PARKING UP HERE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PARKING IN THIS AREA HERE AND SOME BEHIND THE BUILDING THAT ALREADY EXISTS. BUT THIS STRUCTURE, THE AREA SAYING IS NOT INCLUDED AT ALL, NOR IS TENNIS COURT, THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE COURT AREA THAT WAS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. SO EVERYTHING SO THE PRIMARY IMPROVEMENT, STORMWATER TREE REMOVAL, ALL THIS STUFF GOING WITH THAT WERE HERE AND THEN THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIELDS AND ENHANCEMENTS TO THESE AS PART OF THE PROJECT. BUT THE COMPLETE RENOVATION DOWN OKAY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT LET'S GO INTO THAT CENTER AREA WHERE IT SAYS THE YOU SAID 1.8. NO, SORRY. 722 THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS I MY QUESTION IS JUST THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN. IS IT GOING TO BE GRASS OR SOME KIND OF A SPONGY SURFACE OR WHATEVER THAT APPROPRIATE SURFACE IS THAT YOU CAN MARK AND REMARK AND USE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS? WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED ARTIFICIAL TURF. WE HAD THAT EXPLORATION.

IT WILL NOT BE ARTIFICIAL TURF. IT WILL BE SOD, IT WILL BE SOD SOD. YEAH. NATURAL NATURAL GRASS. MARK IT FOR DIFFERENT SPORTS. AND IT COULD BE MARKED FOR DIFFERENT SPORTS. YEAH OKAY.

WHAT NOT BUT HEY IT DOESN'T LIVE UP TO IT. WOULD BE ABLE TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROBLEM. IT WOULDN'T. IT WOULDN'T BE SAINT AUGUSTINE. IT WOULD BE BERMUDA MOST LIKELY, WHICH IS A HIGH TOLERANCE FOR SPORT ACTIVITY. OKAY. PERFECT. BECAUSE THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF GETS REALLY HOT.

OH YEAH. OKAY THEN TO DOMINOES. BUT NOT JUST DOMINOES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHADE. WELL, BONNIE MENTIONED THAT THIS MOTION MENTIONED IT. SO SHE SHE MENTIONED PEOPLE SITTING ALONG THE SHADE AREA. SO DUMB. OKAY. DOMINOES. IT'S A REAL WORD. IT'S LIKE, NO, NO, I SPEAK ENGLISH, THE GAME SPEAK ENGLISH. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. SO CAN I SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH? OKAY. I'M SORRY. DON'T GET ME STARTED. SO ANYWAY, THAT AREA THERE THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, COULD BE IT'S IN THE FUTURE FOR NOW. HAS IT IN THE FUTURE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STABILIZED OR ASPHALTED. NOW, THAT AREA ALONG 10TH STREET, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHANGED. IT'S GOING TO STAY WITH THE TREES, HOWEVER, IN THIS AREA AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN HERE. I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT,

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OKAY. ESTHER. MISS MOSHER AND HER IDEAS. I THINK EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A PRESENTATION TODAY, IF IT DOES NEED TO COME UP, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE MOVING FOR US. IF WE HAVE TO HAVE NUMBERS, THAT'S FINE. BUT I DEFINITELY MOVE FOR. LET'S CONSIDER LESS CONCRETE, LESS PARKING, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH SHARED PARKING AND AN ATTRACTION FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ■AND BIKE THERE.

PROBABLY PUT MORE PARK BIKE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO PARK. THEY PUT THEIR BIKES, BIKE RACKS AND BIKE RACKS. SO I WOULD BONNIE, I APPRECIATE THAT THAT THOUGHT. AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE ON IT OR TO TELL PEOPLE AND MR. GIARDINA TO LOOK AT A JUST IN THE PLANS TO HAVE LESS CONCRETE PARKING, ESPECIALLY AT THE BOTTOM END TOWARDS 14TH STREET. I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER, I THINK THOUGH, BECAUSE AT THE SOUTH END TOWARDS 14TH STREET, WHEN YOU DO HAVE THE SKATE PARK, IT IT IT WILL BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A REGIONAL THING AND PEOPLE WILL COME THERE. AND IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE COMPETITION AND OTHER THINGS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO PARK ON THE OTHER TWO. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 10TH STREET, RIGHT, AND COME AROUND. BUT WE'LL HAVE PARKING. BUT I THINK THAT HOW SOON WILL IT BE THAT THAT THE PARKING ON 10TH STREET CAN BE STABILIZED AND TAKEN CARE OF ALONG 10TH STREET? THAT'S 4 OR 5 YEARS THAT THAT'S IN THE BUDGET FOR 2028. FOR DESIGN IN 2030 WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, THE PARK HAS BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG AND PEOPLE ARE THERE AND I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE THE I REMEMBER THE SURVEYS AND OF COURSE I COULDN'T I'D SEE THEM ALSO IN MY, IN MY PAPERWORK HERE. BUT SOMETIMES THINGS ARE SO FINE I DON'T GET TO BLOW THEM UP. I CAN, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE MAYBE WE COULD JUST INFORMALLY ASK THOSE PEOPLE WHO USE THE PARK ALONG THAT AREA AND USE A SHADED AREA AND EVERYTHING. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THERE IS A SPOT FOR THEM IN THE PARK NOW. THEY CAN BECAUSE THE PARKING IS GOING TO WHEN THE PARKING IS OFFICIALLY THERE. IT'S GOING TO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED TO OFFICIALLY SIT OUT A PARKING SPACE, UNLESS WE WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF A BUMP OUT OR BUILD OUT BULB OR WHATEVER FOR LITTLE SITTING AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY DOMINOES THERE, BUT ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME INTO THE CENTER OF THE PARK AND, AND, AND DO THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT INVOLVED WITH THE, THE RESPONSE TO THE SURVEY. AND MAYBE WE AT LEAST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE NEEDS ARE CONSIDERED. AND WE'RE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I WOULD LOVE IF I, I A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAD WAS YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND MAYBE ABOUT IN YOUR FIFTH SLIDE.

I LOVE TO SEE WHAT IT IS ON MY PAPERWORK HERE IN YOUR FIFTH SLIDE, WHEN YOU SHOW LIKE THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT THING, AND THEN YOU HAD LIKE A SHADED AREA, LIKE TWO DIFFERENT SHADES OF BLUE, I JUST WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE THERE TO MAYBE ASK A QUESTION,

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SO IT'S CAPTURING STREET RUNOFF FROM HERE, DUMPING IT IN HERE AND COMING UNDERNEATH THE GROUND AND THEN EMPTYING INTO HERE. THIS AREA IS ALSO COLLECTING ANY STORMWATER FROM THIS AREA HERE.

SO WITHIN THE PARK BOUNDARY, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDING THIS DETENTION AREA THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, ANYTHING THAT DUMPS INTO THIS IS BEING CALCULATED RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ROAD HERE, ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE PROPERTY LINE NORTH AND THEN UP AROUND HERE. SO ANYTHING THAT GETS TOUCHED HERE WILL AFFECT THE NUMBER OF THE DRAINAGE OF THIS AREA HERE. RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS BEING ACCOUNTED FOR. SKATE PARK, IMPROVEMENTS OF THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD. ALL OF THAT IS UNDER ONE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT APPLICATION. SO, MR. MORTIMER, I'M SURE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'M ASKING SO WITH REGARD TO THE OLD HISTORY, WITH OUR AIRPORT, WITH A ONE, A WITH AN OLD BOOM THAT'S IN THE AREA, AND WITH ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE FOR OSMOSIS PLANT AND OUR DEEP WELL INJECTION. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE FOUND OR HAS BEEN A PART OF THE HISTORY OF THIS AREA? NO. SO THE AIRPORT COMMENT THAT YOU MADE IS THE GRUMMAN AREA THAT WOULD BE INSIDE OF THE FENCED IN AREA OF THE AIRPORT WHERE THAT TOOK PLACE. AND THAT WAS A 20 YEAR PROGRAM WITH FDEP AS IT RELATED TO FISH AQUIFER. THE WELL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRILLING AND MANAGING IN THIS LOCATION IS IN THE FLORIDAN AQUIFER. THAT'S ABOUT 1000FT BELOW THE GROUND. THE GRUMMAN WELL WAS ABOUT 125FT BELOW GROUND. SO IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WATER SOURCE, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. ISSUES. I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE TESTING IN THE PARK HISTORICALLY, JUST AS YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE BUYING A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO TESTING, AND THERE'S NO ARSENIC OR LEAD OR TOXIC PCBS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S NO ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THAT. THE REASON WE'VE LOCATED THE WELL IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IS BECAUSE THE WAY THAT WELLS WORK AND WATER MOVES, AS A RESULT, IT WOULD PROVIDE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY. IT WOULD GET THE DEP APPROVAL. IT WOULD NOT. INVADE OR IMPACT ANY WELLS THAT ARE ALREADY DONE BY THE COUNTY. AND IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE US SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR OUR WELL TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANOTHER WELL PULLING OR DRAWING FROM IT TO ULTIMATELY CREATE SOME TYPE OF OTHER INTRUSION. OKAY, FINE, MR. MAYOR, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE COUPLE OF THINGS I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER REDUCING ANY TYPE OF CONCRETE PARKING OR THE NUMBER OF PARKING, AND DEFINITELY WE NEED TO HAVE STAFF AND MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHO THE

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OTHERWISE, IF YOU'RE SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE FILED, A SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT JOINTLY FOR THE DRAINAGE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE BOUND TO THE REST OF THE PROJECT, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SKATE PARK. THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE FORESEE THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE IS FPML IS CORRECT. WORKING WITH FPML, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE WELLFIELD. CORRECT. WHILE WE SUBMIT THAT PERMIT, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. SO THEN IT COULD ALL JUST BE COMBINED. IT CAN ALL GO TOGETHER WHEN WE GO. THEN THE SKATE PARK WOULD BE SOMEWHAT HELD HOSTAGE BASED ON FPL FOR THE LARGER PARK PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FPL. YEAH. SO I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU. ALL RIGHT, DOMINIC, IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES WITH FPL AND NOW WE HAVE THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT, HOW DO WE COULD IT BE PARSED OUT? IS THE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW, HONESTLY, IF I HAVE A 100% ANSWER ON THAT, ONLY BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE THAT FILES THAT PERMIT FOR THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. I WILL CHECK IN WITH MY ENGINEERS FIRST THING TOMORROW AND MAKE SURE I GET THAT ANSWER. MY GUT FEELING IS SAYING, ONCE YOU APPLY AS A MASTER PERMIT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION TOGETHER. NOW AGAIN, THE OPTION OF FILING SEPARATELY. YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE THAT OUT. AND THEN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PARK PROJECT, I THINK, HAVE TO COME WITH THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT THERE'S ACCESSIBILITY TO THE SKATE PARK. SO THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT IS THE MAIN HOLDUP. THAT'S THAT'S THE DRAINAGE PERMIT. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S MIGHT SET THAT GUY DAVIS AT LARGE. THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD AUTHORIZE. FOR YOU TO DO. I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. THERE'S OTHER THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER INGREDIENTS IN THE OVERALL PARK PROJECT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY SLOW DOWN THE OVERALL PARK, LIKE FPL. WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY? IT'S PERMITS. IT'S FOR. THEY ALREADY SUBMITTED A PERMIT. FPL IS JUST NOT THE LOCATION WE WANT IT. SO AS AS SOON AS THEY AGREE WITH THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE POLES NEED TO GO, THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BUILDING DEPARTMENT REVIEWING THE PERMIT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO I THINK ALL THAT COULD BE RESOLVED BY THE TIME WE GET THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER PERMIT, BECAUSE THE AS SOON AS WE SUBMIT TO SOUTH FLORIDA, IT'S 120 DAYS MINIMUM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO FPL SHOULD BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT WITHIN 120 DAYS. I'D HOPE WE COULD CERTAINLY VOTED ON THIS IN OCTOBER. AND WE'RE WE'RE STILL HERE. AND I KNOW IT WAS LARGER CONVERSATIONS CONTRACTUALLY WITH SPAWN AND YOU GUYS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS AND OTHER THINGS. BUT MY CONCERN IS IF THE SKATE PARK IS TIED TO THE OVERALL LARGER PROJECT. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND SINCE 2019, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE CAN GET

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CAN WE DO SOMETHING ELSE 200 GRAND FOR I MEAN, IN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN WE HAD, WE HAD TREES IN A PLAZA, BUT THAT GOT REDUCED TO EXPAND THE CONCESSION BUILDING. THERE ARE SOMETHING, BUT AND THEN THE LAST PART OF MY MOTION WOULD BE WHERE THE BUILT IN TABLES FOR DOMINO'S INCLUDED AT ALL, HAVING SOME SORT OF BUILT IN ITS UNDER PAVILIONS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S THE PICNIC TABLE AND PAVILIONS. BUT IN THE MASTER PLAN COMPONENT WE HAD LOOKED AT EXPLORING ALL ALONG THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY, IMPROVING THAT TO BE LIKE A LINEAR PARK BY 10TH. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT INCLUDED AS WELL. SOME SOME SORT OF BUILT IN. IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE FOR THIS OR. NO, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT.

THEN I'M NOT MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION. IT COULD, IT COULD COME ALONG WHEN 10TH STREET. EXACTLY. YEAH OKAY. BEAUTIFUL. JUST WANT TO PLANT THE SEED. BUT WE SET THE BONES SO THAT IT COULD BE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE. AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MY MOTION IF THERE'S A SECOND. WE NEED A SECOND. I DON'T KNOW, JUST TO HAVE THAT MOTION, I BELIEVE I DO. I'D JUST LIKE TO REPEAT IT BEFORE I LOOK FOR A SECOND. YES, WE'RE ALL CLEAR. THERE'S A LOT THAT WE REMAIN ON COURSE ON PROJECT WITH THE SKATE PARK FIRST, AND ALLOW OVERALL PROJECT TO BE SUBMITTED FOR PERMITTING BY SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ADDING BONDS. RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING MORE TREES, TREE CANOPY, SHADE TREES, CORRECT SPECIES AND INCORPORATE HER COMMENTS INTO THE OVERALL PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT SOUNDS

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THERE'S A GREAT NEED FOR PARKING. ALEXIS IS HERE. SHE'S THE DIRECTOR FCA. THEY HAVE PROGRAMS, AS YOU KNOW, LACROSSE, SOCCER AND THEY WANT TO EXPAND INTO OTHER ACTIVITIES. SO THEY NEED AS MUCH PARKING AS POSSIBLE. AND LET ME JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE COVERED. WE'RE JUST ASKING. LOOK, I KNOW EVERY CHANGE KIND OF EXTENDS THE DEADLINE. YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT. SO PLEASE BUILD THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

KIDS ARE GETTING OLDER. TIME IS PASSING. WE HAVE ANOTHER GENERATION OF KIDS THAT NEEDS THIS PARK, NEEDS THIS PROGRAMING. WE HAVE FCA READY TO DO AN ACTION SPORTS MINISTRY ALONG WITH OTHER DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN E STUART. NEW BIRTH HAS A GREAT IDEA TO DO ON A WING AND A PRAYER. THEY'RE GOING TO PULL UP THE FOOD TRUCK. THEY'RE GIVE OUT WINGS AND DO ALL KINDS OF GREAT STUFF FOR THE YOUTH OUT THERE. AS FAR AS MINISTRY, THERE'S ALSO SECULAR ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO, GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST SO EXCITED. BUT PLEASE DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

PLEASE. YOU KNOW, TREES. IF THAT SLOWS THINGS DOWN, MAYBE WE CAN PLANT SOME TREES LATER. ALSO VERY QUICKLY. PUBLIC ART COMPONENT I'M MEETING WITH ROTARY CLUB IN AUGUST, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER GROUPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT WANT TO DONATE MONEY FOR PUBLIC ART. SO IF THE CITY CAN PROVIDE ME AREAS IN THIS THAT YOU NEED, YOU ART, PEN HAVE SOME OF THESE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS DONATE MONEY. AND I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN PRESENT TO THEM AND GET THE PUBLIC ART COMPONENTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE GREAT FACIAL WALLS AND THINGS THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ALICIA DIXON. HELEN. HELEN MCBRIDE. GOOD EVENING, MISS MCBRIDE. HELEN MCBRIDE FROM FLAMINGO AVENUE. THE 52 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF STEWART, I'VE WATCHED. EVERY TIME SOMETHING COMES UP FOR STEWART AND WE THINK WE'RE LIKE THE GUY. DAVIS PARK AND I WENT TO THE MEETINGS, AND THEY INVITED ME TO COME TO THE MEETINGS. AND NOW HERE IN THE LAST YEAR, THE SKATEBOARD PEOPLE CAME IN AND WE'RE PUSHING THE PEOPLE OF EAST STEWART AGAIN.

READ US ASIDE, BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET THAT SKATEBOARD. SKATEBOARD FOR AND ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME, MY KIDS ARE SKATEBOARDING. MY GRANDCHILDREN, I'VE RUN ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WITH THE TREES, WE NEED SHADE, TREES, PARKING. YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE LIVING ON LA LA LAND. IF YOU GREW OVER ON 10TH STREET AND SOCCER SEASON, YOU CAN'T WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THEY USE IT AS PARKING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. I'M AT 10TH STREET. I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN. I GO TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN GROUP AND GOD BLESS MIKE. HE KEEPS SAYING, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO PARK IN THE GRASS.

THANK GOD THE POLICE ARE VERY NICE TO US SENIORS. BUT NO, BUT I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'M MAD OR UPSET, BUT I'VE WATCHED IT FOR SO LONG. THESE STORE, IT ALWAYS GETS SHOVED ASIDE BECAUSE A NEW GROUP COMES IN AND THEY DON'T LIVE ANY STEWART. BUT OH, HERE, HERE'S

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NOBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT SURVEY THAT SHE DID. I GUARANTEE YOU GO OVER THERE AND DO A SURVEY ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU DIDN'T DO THE SURVEY THAT THE PEOPLE WANT. YOU EXCLUDE US FROM A LOT OF STUFF.

I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT HISTORIC BOARD. ALAN BRINKLEY, STEPHEN COOPER, PHILIP HARVEY AND JAMES, WE DISAGREE. WE SAID WE DIDN'T WANT TO SKATEBOARD THE SKATE PARK FIRST. WE DIDN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T WANT IT, PERIOD. WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE PARK. BUT Y'ALL DISRESPECT US AND DID IT YOUR WAY. YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO US. AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT. BECAUSE WHAT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN, OUR SKIN MADE UP. AND IT'S SAD THAT HOW Y'ALL DISRESPECT US. YOU DON'T CARE WHAT WE SAY, BUT THANK GOD FOR JESUS. AND THEY GOT ALL THE GOT ALL THEM CHURCHES. THEN HE STOOD AND THEY'RE IN THERE FOR A REASON. BECAUSE ONE FOR GOD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE STOOD. IT'LL BE SOMEBODY ELSE OVER THERE BESIDES US. AND Y'ALL JUST TOTALLY. DID THIS. DISSOLVE THE BOARD. BLACK HISTORIC BOARD. WE MEET, WHAT, ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DISAGREE. NO MORE MEETING. JUST KICKED TO THE CURB. DISRESPECTFUL. DISRESPECTFUL. BUT IT'S ALL GOOD. GOD SAYS HI. HE LOOKS LOW. ME, WHOEVER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE OR HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE. SO BE CAREFUL HOW YOU TREAT ANYBODY AND YOU CAN HATE ME ALL YOU WANT. AND I LOVE YOU IN SPITE OF YOUR HATE FOR ME. THAT'S ALL. NAME AND JAMES CHRISTIE LIVE IN PORT SAINT LUCIE ON THE HOME STORE. GREW UP, BORN AND RAISED IN STUART, AND I AM SAYING DITTO TO MISTER BRIAN AND ALSO MISTER BRINKLEY. THIS IS JUST WRONG. THE SURVEY IS SUSPECT IS SUSPECT. I AGREE WITH MISS BRINKLEY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT 300 AND SOME PEOPLE SAYING THEY WANT A SKATEPARK. WHEN I GO BACK THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS TAKEN REGARDING THE PARK AND WHAT I SEE, PEOPLE WANTED A POOL. PEOPLE WANTED A SPLASH PARK, NOT A MISSED A SPLASH PARK. I DON'T THINK NOBODY WANTED A SKATE PARK. BUT THIS IS A PATTERN. THIS IS A PATTERN OF THE CITY MAKING DECISIONS FOR EAST STUART THAT THE PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT. OTHER PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND FULFILL THEIR DREAMS, DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, AND LOOK OVER THE PEOPLE IN HISTORY. IT'S A PATTERN. I SEEN IT, I RECOGNIZE PATTERNS VERY WELL, AND IT'S A DISTURBING PATTERN. EAST STUART, THE PEOPLE THAT HAS THE MOST SAY SHOULD BE THE EAST STUART RESIN, NOT THE CITY. YOU GUYS ARE NOT AT THE TOP OF THE HIERARCHY. NOT THE POLICE, NOT ANYBODY. IT'S THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS, AND PARTICULARLY WHAT GOES ON IN EAST STUART SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN UNLESS IT GOES BY THE RESIDENTS THERE. IT'S BEEN NOTIFICATION WEAPONIZATION. OH, IT IS HORRIBLE TO NOTIFICATION WEAPONIZATION. AND WHEN IN THE WORLD DO WE STOP? DO WE HAVE NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO A PROJECT AND WE GO GET MONEY TO BUSINESS INCUBATOR? THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. WE CUT IT OFF

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NONVIOLENCE. DON'T DON'T PUT THAT OUT. NOTHING. BUT WE'RE TAKING ACTION. THIS IS WRONG.

THINGS ARE BEING DONE AT THAT PARK AND WE'RE LAST. A PLAYGROUND GOT SAND ON IT STILL.

THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, MR. MADEIRA, YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT. I JUST WANTED TO AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT THIS BOARD MEMBER, MOSER, SAID.

ACACIA TREES TWO ARE ALSO INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY BRITTLE. AND WHEN WE GET STORMS IN HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO END UP A STALK AND TAKE A YEAR TO GROW BACK. AND THEN ANOTHER WIND IS GOING TO KNOCK IT ALL DOWN. BUT I WAS THINKING, BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON PARKING. SO I'M LOOKING AT LIKE THE BLAKE LIBRARY. THEY'VE GOT AN INTERESTING SYSTEM WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE MEDIAN SPLITTING TWO ROWS OF PARKING, AND THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF LARGE CANOPY OAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN BETWEEN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE. LAST TIME I GOT INTO MY CAR, AFTER IT WAS OUT IN THE SUN ALL DAY, I LITERALLY GOT HEATSTROKE. IT WAS LIKE 100, 200 DEGREES IN THERE. AND IT. SO I MEAN, I THINK THE CARS, THE CANOPIES ARE IMPORTANT FOR THEM AS MUCH AS FOR THE SHADY AREAS, FOR THE PEOPLE. AND IF THERE'S AN ABSENCE OR A LIMITATION ON THE CANOPY TREES, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT THE NYLON CANOPIES LIKE WE HAVE ON THE BOARDWALK, WHERE THE MUSIC VENUES ARE ON THE, ON THE BOARDWALK. AS FAR AS THE COSTS I HAD, I HAD A QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THE CEMENT AND TARIFFS WERE AN ISSUE WITH THE PART OF THE INCREASING COST, BUT I HEARD SOMETHING MENTIONED ABOUT THE ASPHALT FOR REMEDIATION OF THE COST INCREASE. IS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ASPHALT COST AND THE CEMENT USING THE CEMENT COST FOR THE PAVING? IS IT A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE? I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN CAN ANSWER THAT. SO IN THE IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COST ESTIMATE THAT I PROVIDED, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE HARD NUMBERS OF WHAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THOSE. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH AN ITEMIZED LIST. THE DIFFERENCE IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BETWEEN THE PERVIOUS CONCRETE AND ASPHALT. BEING THAT IT'S IT REALLY GOES DOWN TO WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THE BASE. RIGHT WHEN WE COME IN WITH ASPHALT, WE'RE REALLY ONLY DIGGING DOWN SIX INCHES, MAYBE THREE INCHES OF ASPHALT, AND THEN WHATEVER THE SUBBASE WOULD BE UNDER THAT 6 OR 8, DEPENDING ON THE LOAD. BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PERVIOUS CONCRETE, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DRAINAGE ROCK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GEOTEXTILE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTRIBUTING THE LOAD ACROSS THE CONCRETE, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S STILL REINFORCED. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT COST KIND OF GETS DRIVEN. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 130 TO POTENTIALLY 200 IN SAVING BY SWITCHING TO ASPHALT. THE ONLY INHABITANTS ON THAT IS THEN YOU'RE LOSING ON YOUR PERVIOUS AREA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE CONCRETE AND THE PAVERS ARE CALCULATED TOWARDS THAT. SO THERE'S BENEFITS TO BOTH. I HAVE MY ENGINEERS ACTUALLY CRUNCHING NUMBERS AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH ASPHALT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THE IMPERVIOUS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, INCREASING A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S PROPOSED AS IS. BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN THAT AS WELL. THANK. I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION BURIED IN HERE. THAT WAS BASICALLY MY COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

BOARD MEMBER SCHERER. OKAY. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE TIMING AND THE PROJECT AND THE SCHEDULE AGAIN. SO IF THERE'S THE OVERALL I'M GOING TO USE, I'LL DEFINE SOME TERMS. SO THE PROJECT AND THEN THERE ARE WHAT I'LL CALL ELEMENTS IN THE PROJECT. DIFFERENT ACTIVITY AREAS EVEN EVEN A DOMINO TABLE SOMEWHERE. SO THAT'S AN ELEMENT. SO THERE'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION NOW OR MAYBE TO THE PRESENTER. SO DOES IT ALL GO AT THE SAME TIME. AND IS THE WHOLE PROJECT WHICH IS A PARK. DO YOU LIKE FLIP A SWITCH AND THE DOOR IS OPEN FOR THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE, OR DO SECTIONS OR ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT BECOME AVAILABLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES? SO THERE'S DEFINITELY MEANS AND METHODS. I DO WANT TO THERE'S MEANS AND METHODS TO IT. YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE PARK PROJECT IN MIAMI BEACH OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFERENT, BUT IT WAS 30 ACRES,

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YEAH, I, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE TWO COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. ONE, I SUPPORT THE MOTION IF THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON THIS PATH, BOTH SIMULTANEOUS KEEPING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND JUST MOVING FORWARD MAKES MORE SENSE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD BE GOING BECAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND WE'VE SEEN THE EFFECT OF DELAYS ON THE COST. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST OF THE PARK HAS GONE TO, LET'S SAY, 6 MILLION OR WHATEVER, 7 MILLION TO 9 MILLION OR 10 MILLION. IT'S NOT OUR FAULT PER SE, BUT THE LONGER IT TAKES TO GET IT DONE, THE MORE YOU'VE GOT THE CHANCE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO UP IN PRICE. AND I GUARANTEE YOU WE'LL BE LOOKING AT LEAST 10 TO 15% OVERRUNS IN TOTAL BY THE TIME WE GET DONE WITH THIS. AND WE'RE DRAGGING THIS STUFF ALL THROUGH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. EAST STUART HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME NOW. I LIKE THE SKATEBOARD PROJECT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S INTEGRAL THAT IT HAS TO BE CONNECTED DIRECTLY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EAST STUART. WE CAN DO THAT PROJECT SEPARATELY IN EAST STUART. STILL A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT. IT'S STILL GOT SOME GOOD PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE DONE AND WE CAN GET THAT DONE. WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT REALLY. WE ACTUALLY PULLED THAT LOCATION OUT OF AND PUT IT INTO THIS PLAN. AND IF WE JUST PULLED IT OUT AND DID IT SEPARATELY, IT WOULD GET DONE FASTER. I GUARANTEE YOU THIS SKATEPARK IS GOING TO TAKE LONGER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CONNECTED WITH A BIG PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE FOREVER. STILL, TO GET FPNL, YOU KNOW, YOU START THROWING NAMES OUT LIKE LIKE FPNL AND OTHERS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LONG DELAYS. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE AND WHAT HAPPENS? AND THEN THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE GROUND TO A HALT, WHEREAS SEPARATED, I THINK THEY COULD BE DONE MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY. BOTH PROJECTS COULD GO, BUT. DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TREE MITIGATION? ALL THE TREES BEING REMOVED FOR THE SKATEBOARD PARK CAN BE REPLANTED IN THE PARK, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE.

IT'S NOT MITIGATING, IT'S PART OF THE PLAN. IF IT'S SEPARATED, IT'S BEST TO FOLLOW IT THROUGH TREE MITIGATION CODE, WHICH MAKES IT 1.5 FOR THE SLASH PINES AND 2.0 FOR THE OAKS, SO TWICE AS MANY INCHES HAVE TO BE PLANTED. YEAH. AND BUT THEY CAN'T BE PLANTED IN THE SKATEBOARD PARK BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SKATEBOARDERS. SO WHEN THEY END UP BEING OFF SITE, YOU HAVE TO DO MITIGATION PROGRAM AND THEN YOU KEEP IT OFF SITE. WELL, I'VE SEEN ENOUGH PROJECTS APPROVED IN, IN, IN THE CRA THAT INVOLVED MITIGATION OF, OF TREES THAT THAT CAN'T WE CAN'T IT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL. WE CAN JUST MITIGATE THOSE. NO, NO I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I SEE WHERE THAT. BUT BOARD MEMBER, ARE YOU ASKING HIM TO AMEND HIS MOTION? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PART OF HIS MOTION RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT WE SEPARATE. I'M STATING THAT FOR MY PURPOSES, THE REASON I'M SECONDING IT IS THAT IF WE DON'T MAKE A CHANGE, I THINK THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE, BUT I THINK IT'S THE BEST ONE. GIVEN THAT PATH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ADEQUATE PATH. WE CONCLUDE OUR

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YES. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK. VICE CHAIR. OH I'M SORRY. HE'S SPOKEN A COUPLE OF TIMES MORE THAN ME. IN THE SAKE OF FAIRNESS, I'M ELECTED VICE MAYOR. I'LL GET TO HIM THEN. VICE MAYOR WAS SPEAKING EARLIER. AND OF COURSE, LISTENING TO THIS BRIEFLY AND.

MR. CHRISTIANSEN. MR. CHRISTIAN WAS HELEN, MY FRIEND. EVERYBODY AND I MYSELF QUESTION THIS IDEA OF THE SURVEY AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE PARK FOR GENTLEMEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DOMINANCE AND. I MY THING IS I WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD. I WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD IN UNITY FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE HERE, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE RIGHT CLOSE TO THE PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF EAST STUART, WHO ARE LOOKING FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT TO HAPPEN. AND IF WE WERE FOLLOWING OUR RULES AND OUR GUIDELINES AND STAYING WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, AT LEAST I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NEVER WHEN WE FIRST GOT THAT FIRST 500,000 AGREED TO HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE SKATE PARK FIRST, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST, WHAT WE'D DO. AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT THAT 500,000 COULD BE USED FOR IT ANYMORE. I'M ASKING COMMISSIONER CALLING, AND I'M KIND OF GLAD OF THE THING THAT YOU HAVE ON THE, THE, THE MOTION THAT YOU HAVE NOW, BUT STILL WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE AND TO WORK WITH WHAT IS BEST AND WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERES, AND TO FIND EVERY WAY TO STILL SAY, WE CAN DO THIS, BUT THIS HAS TO STILL GO FIRST. I THINK THAT'S STILL NOT. BEST, BUT I AM MOVING FORWARD FOR THE CITY OF STUART TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS PARK DONE. BUT I REALLY THINK IF WE NEED TO DO A COMPROMISE AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY STILL HAVE THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS TO DO, AND ESPECIALLY GETTING THAT PERMIT WITH SOUTH FLORIDA, IF WE CAN JUST MOVE THAT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN YOUR MOTION, IS TO GET EVERYTHING DONE TOGETHER. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF SACRIFICES TO GO BACK AND FIND THIS OTHER MONEY AND TO GO BACK AND INCLUDE THIS AND TO BRING IT INTO THE PLAN THAT HAD BEEN GOING FOR THREE YEARS BEFORE THAT, AND TO GET EVERYTHING DONE ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD. SO PLEASE, LET'S FIND EVERY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND NOT PUT SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY. IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THIS WAY, I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.

PLEASE. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. WHOEVER I'M APPEALING TO OR WHATEVER, I JUST NEED THIS CRB BOARD. I KNOW THAT WE'RE MISSING MY MEMBERS IS MISSING BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY THAT HAPPENED. BUT PLEASE LET US TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.

WE SEE THAT EVEN WHATEVER PLANNING METHOD WE USE, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE OF 7 TO 9 MONTHS. IS THAT IT? THAT THAT WOULD BE MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THESE ARE BEST CASE SCENARIOS. YEAH. SO LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO DO EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND NOT BE SO HARD AND FAST ON. AS SOON AS THIS PLAN IS OVER, THEN THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS IS A SKATE PARK. IF THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT IT CAN BE, AND WE'VE HEARD THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US, LET US PLEASE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY COME FIRST, AND THEY'VE BEEN EXPECTING A PLAN TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR A LONG TIME NOW, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT, AND WE NEED TO DO, SINCE WE'VE INCORPORATED THIS IDEA. NOW, LET'S JUST MOVE AND DO WHAT IS BEST, AND IT'S GOING TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO IT ALL TOGETHER. AND TO GET THIS THING DONE BEFORE THE OHIO. SO VICE MAYOR. YEAH. SO. THIS CONVERSATION AROUND TRYING TO AMEND THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING IN WITH THIS BOARD, I THINK IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE REASONS THAT I SAID BEFORE, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT HERE. TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT HERE, RIGHT. THAT VOTED TO PUT THE SKATE PARK FIRST, YOU WOULD NEED

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RIGHT. SO UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING. CORRECT? IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, A STRANGE THING TO WANT TO OVERHAUL AND RADICALLY CHANGE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO DO. TO YOUR POINT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT ARE AROUND TYING UP THE LARGER PARK. I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT THIS INFOGRAPHIC IS NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE ACCORDING TO IT, WE SHOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. IF WE BUILD A SKATE PARK FIRST, YOU KNOW, SO CLEARLY NONE OF THIS IS ACCURATE. THIS AT THE TIME WAS THE BEST GUESS. AND IF WE'RE GETTING THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT DONE TOGETHER, THAT REALLY SHOULD BE NO ISSUE.

WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL THE ISSUES THAT COULD BE AROUND THE TIMING BY DOING THAT. I HATE TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. CHARACTERIZED AS SLIDING EAST STUART, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IN MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS PARK IS NOT FOR A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS PARK IS WE'RE INVESTING $10 MILLION OF CRA MONEY INTO GUY DAVIS PARK FOR ALL RESIDENTS. AND MAYBE THAT'S SAYING THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S FOR ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND SO I HATE TO HEAR A CHARACTERIZED THAT WAY. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. AND WHEN I TALK TO RESIDENTS, MAYBE THERE'S RESIDENTS IN EAST STUART WHO DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS. BUT WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, THEY ARE THRILLED THAT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST SKATE PARK IN THE CITY OF STUART. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS. AND IN THIS PARK PROJECT, WE'RE INVESTING $10 MILLION. THAT'S GOING TO BE NOW A POSSIBILITY FOR FAMILIES, FOR PARENTS, FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE KIDS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SPORT THAT PEOPLE CAN DO. AND I KNOW, I KNOW THE SKATE PARK IS NOT ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S TO ITS CREDIT, IT'S A SPORT THAT PEOPLE CAN DO BY THEMSELVES. IT MAY BE FEEL MARGINALIZED OF WHATEVER RACE, WHAT WHATEVER. THEY CAN GO THERE AND SKATEBOARD OF A WIDE VARIETY OF AGES ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADULTHOOD. PEOPLE CAN USE THESE KIND OF FACILITIES, MAKE FRIENDS. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF STUART TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO AMEND THE MOTION AGAIN. I THINK IT WOULD BE RADICALLY TRYING TO TRANSFORM WHERE WE'RE ALREADY AT AND THE DIRECTION WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN. AND WE ARE WE'VE OVERCOME THE OBSTACLE OF THE TIMELINE BY HAVING THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT BE RUN TOGETHER, SO OTHERWISE EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ON TRACK TO GET THAT SKATE PARK GOING. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. WOW. OKAY, QUITE A WHILE TO GET HERE. SO THE COST OF I JUST WANT TO WELL THIS IS NOT PART OF THE MOTION. SO I WON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS. YEAH I'M VERY CONFLICTED ABOUT THE SKATE PARK BECAUSE WHEN IT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY CONTRIBUTIONS. AND WE BELIEVE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US AND TELL US THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY GROUPS THAT HAVE DONE THAT AND IN FACT, THEY'VE EXCEEDED THEIR PROMISES TO THE CITY. AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN THE COUNTY. AND THAT VOTE WAS TAKEN AND SUCH AS IT IS. AND WHEN THEY CAME BACK, THAT GROUP CAME BACK. THEY HADN'T RAISED 500,000. THEY HADN'T RAISED 50, THEY HADN'T RAISED 100. THEY HADN'T RAISED 50,000. THEY HADN'T RAISED $5,000. AND WE HAD BEEN TOLD THERE WAS THIS OVERWHELMING DEMAND FOR THE SKATE PARK, AND THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT. AND EVEN THE GROUP WHO MADE THE PROPOSAL DIDN'T EVEN DIG INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS FOR $1,000. WHAT OTHER? SO WILL YOU ALLOW ME TO FINISH MY REMARKS, MR. VICE MAYOR? BUT NONETHELESS, WE WENT AHEAD BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE $500,000 GRANT. WELL, WE LOST THAT GRANT AND WE WENT AHEAD AND ANYWAY. AND THEN WE PUT ANOTHER $500,000 GRANT REQUEST AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET THAT AND WE LOST THAT AS WELL. WE GOT THE FIRST. SO. WE FIND OURSELVES HERE. AND

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NOWHERE NEAR TWICE AS MUCH, BUT IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE. AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE SPLASH PARK IS NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED. AND. IF WE COULD MAYBE SHAVE A FEW PARKING, HOW MUCH? WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL COST VERSUS THE MISSED PARK VERSUS THE. SPLASH PARK? ALWAYS A MISS.

MISSING EQUIPMENT. WE WERE NEVER GOING TO DO SPLASH PAD. IT WAS ALWAYS THE MISSING BECAUSE I KNOW HOW POPULAR THAT IS. BUT MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR IT. I WOULD AT INDIAN RIVERSIDE PARK. BUT I DO AGREE THIS IS NOT A PARK JUST FOR EAST. IT IS A PARK. IT IS A PARK FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE CAN'T BE CONSTRAINED IN WHAT WE WANT TO OFFER BY WHAT THEY FEEL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. BUT NOBODY HAS HAD MORE PATIENCE THAN THE PEOPLE OF EAST STUART. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CLARK. I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR HOW LONG, MR. MARTEL? I FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS PROBABLY IN THE 2007. CORRECT.

OH MY GOD. YEAH. SERIOUSLY. BASEBALL FIELDS. BASEBALL FIELDS. YEAH, IN 2018. YEAH.

WHEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS A THERE WAS A BILL IN TALLAHASSEE THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TERMINATE CRAS AND THAT THE ONLY WAY YOUR CRA COULD BE EXTENDED IS IF IT HAD A DEBT OBLIGATION TIED TO IT. SO THE IDEA WAS TO GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY OR BOND AGAINST THE PARK IN ORDER TO CREATE THE DEBT OBLIGATION TO EXTEND THE CRA, PAY. THAT. AND ORIGINALLY, THE SHIFT WAS GOING TO BE TO BUILD THE NEW BASEBALL FIELDS FOR SAILFISH PARK AT GUY DAVIS, SO THAT ALL OF BASEBALL WOULD TAKE PLACE IN ONE PLACE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A GROUP OF KIDS PLAYING AT GUY DAVIS THAT WERE DIFFERENT THAN THE GROUP OF KIDS THAT WERE PLAYING AT SAILFISH, AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO COMBINE EVERYBODY AND MERGE IT TOGETHER. BUT COST EFFECTIVE NATURE OF BUILDING A SECOND SET OF BASEBALL FIELDS AT THE LEVEL OR SET OF SAILFISH PARK CAUSED IT TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE. AND YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO I DON'T SEE WHY ANY ONE ELEMENT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED. THIS PARK NEEDS TO GET BUILT. FINALLY, LET'S GET GOING ON IT. AND WE DON'T NEED TO INCUR MORE EXPENSE BY DIVIDING IT UP AND APPLYING FOR PERMITS FOR THIS, AND THEN PERMITS FOR THAT, AND BRINGING IN CONSTRUCTION TO A HALT. AND.

SO LET'S JUST GO FORWARD AS BEST WE CAN HERE. SO BEFORE WE I HAVE YOU CALL THE ROLL. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU JUST READ THE MOTION AGAIN. SO. WE HAVE THAT WE REMAIN ON COURSE. WITH THE SKATE PARK FIRST AND ALLOW OVERALL PROJECT TO BE SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT BY SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THIS IS. I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER READING THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME THAT WE REMAIN ON COURSE, ON PROJECT, ON THE PROJECT, ON THE OVERALL PROJECT. OKAY. RIGHT. SO THE SKATE PARK BEING FIRST, THAT'S THE PATH THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ON. WHAT DOES THAT SAY WITH THE SKATE PARK? WE VOTED. WE VOTED OKAY. IS THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION THAT WE'RE STAYING ON THAT SAME PATH? YES. WE'RE NOT UPENDING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE STAYING ON OUR CURRENT OR WE HAD A RESOLUTION THAT WE VOTED FOR AND WE PUT THE SKATE PARK AT THE BEGINNING. I DISAGREE. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN. BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS, IS ALLOWING THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT TO BE DONE TOGETHER SO THAT THERE'S NOT ANYTHING IN THE WAY IT WOULD. SO HOW IS THAT PRIORITIZING THE SKATEBOARD PARK? I'M CONFUSED. WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING IN THAT ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, BUT WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO FILE THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT TOGETHER. MR. MARTEL, DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION DID NOT PROVIDE AN IMPERATIVE FOR THE PARK TO BE BUILT? BECAUSE THE PRACTICAL, THE PRACTICAL MATTER THE ORIGINAL. VOTE THAT THE COMMISSION MADE WAS THAT IT WOULD CARVE OUT AN AREA FOR A FUTURE SKATEBOARD PARK. WHEN YOU ASSUMED WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION TO

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CORRECT. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE SKATEBOARD PARK WOULD BE TRULY SEPARATED. AND A SEPARATE PLAN FOR STORM WATER FOR THE SKATEBOARD PARK WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO DEP. AND A SEPARATE PLAN FOR GUY DAVIS WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO DEP. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE SKATEBOARD PARK HAS A STORMWATER PLAN, SO IT WOULD SKATEBOARD BECAUSE THE SKATEBOARD PARK ORIGINALLY CAUSED BY DAVIS TO BE DELAYED BECAUSE GUY DAVIS HAD TO WAIT FOR THE SKATEBOARD PARK DESIGN TO GET DRAWN. NO, NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT IS NOT TRUE. THE OVERALL GUY DAVIS PROJECT IS. IT WASN'T IT WASN'T STOPPED. IT WAS NOT SLOWED DOWN. BUT WE'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OVERALL PARK DESIGN AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SKATE. SAID IT WASN'T STOPPED AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAID.

IT DIDN'T. BUT THE DESIGN PLAN FOR THE STORMWATER WAS GOING FORWARD. FOR GUY DAVIS, THE STORMWATER DESIGN IS THE GUY DAVIS STORMWATER DESIGN. THE SKATEBOARD PARK LAND WAS IN. GUY DAVIS, CORRECT WHEN WE STARTED. IF WE SEPARATE IT, THEN THE STORMWATER COMES OUT OF IT AND IT'S LIKE YOU'RE SELLING THAT LAND TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY AND YOU DO A SEPARATE STORMWATER AND SEPARATE TREE ASSESSMENT. YOU COULD DO IT. SEE THIS, THIS IS THIS IS ALL TECHNICALITY THAT HAS SINCE COME OUT. THIS WAS NEVER COMMUNICATED ORIGINALLY BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER AN AGENDA ITEM. THE BOARD VOTED ON THE SKATEBOARD PARK WITHOUT TELLING STAFF IN ADVANCE THERE WAS NO AGENDA ITEM. AT THE COMMISSION MEETING. I DID VOTED ON THIS. AGAIN, THIS WAS THIS. IF THIS WAS AN ISSUE RIGHT, I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME THIS ISSUE TO TRY TO ALTER THE PATH THAT WE'RE. BUT THERE IS NO ISSUE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OCTOBER. OKAY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION. IT'S IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE IN OCTOBER, BECAUSE. NO, THE MOTION THAT I'VE MADE IS TO NOW HAVE THE PERMITS BE DONE TOGETHER SO WE CAN OVERCOME THAT. IT SHOULD BE ADDING THE ELEMENT THAT YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE THE SKATEBOARD ALREADY EXISTING, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, HAD ALREADY BEEN PRIORITIZED, IS ALREADY A THING. THE PERMITS WERE ALREADY BEING SUBMITTED, STORMWATER WAS ALREADY BEING SUBMITTED TOGETHER. SO IF YOU DON'T VOTE ON THIS PRESENTATION, THOSE TWO THINGS HAPPEN ANYWAY. TOGETHER. IF WE SUBMIT SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT, BOTH OVERALL PARK AND THE STATE PARK. YEAH. BUT THIS BUT THIS

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THERE'S OBVIOUSLY CONFUSION SURROUNDING THE. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION. WELL, I DO NEED DIRECTION AS FAR AS SUBMITTING SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT, IF I'M DOING IT SEPARATELY OR IF I'M DOING IT TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT WILL DETERMINE HOW THE CONSTRUCTION WILL HAPPEN. IF IT WAS, IT WAS ALWAYS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN WHEN THE FIRST PLAN CAME BEFORE THE BOARD, WHEN THE GROUP CAME FORWARD TO ASK US TO RESERVE THE SPACE FOR THE SKATEBOARD PARK, THERE WAS NO DESIGN FOR A SKATEBOARD PARK, BUT THERE WAS A TRIANGLE AT THE END OF 14TH STREET OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS WITHIN GUY DAVIS PARK. CORRECT. SO IF WE WEREN'T DOING A SKATEBOARD PARK AND THERE WAS NOTHING GOING THERE, OR THERE WAS A PARKING LOT GOING THERE, OR THERE WAS TREES GOING THERE THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE STORMWATER PLAN FOR THAT WHOLE GUY DAVIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT TRIANGLE WAS INCLUDED IN THE STORMWATER OR THE OR THE GEOGRAPHIC CORRECT PORTION OF GUY DAVIS. SO IF YOU DID THE STORMWATER PLAN AND YOU GET FINISHED WITH THE STORMWATER PLAN, THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA WHERE THE SKATEBOARD PARK IS WOULD BE PART OF THE STORMWATER FOR THE PARK. NOW, IF YOU GO TO DECIDE TO BUILD IT AS A PARKING LOT OR A CONCESSION STAND, OR A SKATEBOARD PARK OR A MOVIE THEATER, THAT'S THE BOARD'S DISCRETION ON WHAT GOES THERE AND WHAT IT'S BUILT THERE. BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WELL AS IT RELATES TO OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT HAVING TO BE DONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK IS ALSO AN INTERFERENCE WITH FINISHING THE WHOLE PARK. BUT TO ME, THE STORMWATER DESIGN GOES FROM 10TH STREET TO DIXIE HIGHWAY. AND WHEN THE STORMWATER IS FINISHED, IF YOU WANTED TO CUT IT UP INTO 12 DIFFERENT EYES AND SEPARATE ALL THOSE INTO PHASES, YOU COULD. BUT THE COMMISSION HAD VOTED TO NOT HAVE ANY DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION OF GUY DAVIS. HOLD UP, CORRECT ANY DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION OF THE SKATEBOARD PARK? CORRECT. THE STORMWATER IS NOT HOLDING UP THE SKATEBOARD PARK DURING THE STORMWATER TOGETHER IS NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THE SKATEBOARD PARK.

TO ME, IT'S VISUALLY ALL PART OF THE ULTIMATE GUIDE DAVIS LAND OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WHEN THAT'S FINISHED. THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE. THAT PHASE IS IF WE THEN SAID, WELL, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL THE MONEY AND PUT IT FIRST INTO THIS SPECIAL FIELD OR THE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELD WAS FINISHED. THAT WOULD BE CONTRARY

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THAT'LL JUST KEEP GOING. YES, BECAUSE IT'LL BE FUNDED AND IT'LL HAVE ITS OWN FUNDING.

CORRECT. THE ONLY MERGE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS THIS STORMWATER THING, BUT THAT IS THE STATE PERMITTING AS IT RELATES TO THE STORMWATER FOR THE LAND UNDERNEATH, WHICH TO ME IS ALL UNDERNEATH. WAS IN IT CORRECT? FROM THE BEGINNING? THE SKATEBOARD PARK WASN'T DESIGNED ON IT YET, BUT THE LAND WAS WAS THERE WHEN WE DID IT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. IS THAT DO WE NEED TO VOTE STILL OR DID WE JUST? ACCEPT THE PRESENTATION? NO, WE THERE'S A PENDING MOTION, A SECOND TO VOTE IF YOU WANT THE VOTE. SO AGAIN TO CLARIFY, WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE WHAT MIKE SAID.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE SAME PATH. WE'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE ALLOWING THE WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT TO BE DONE TOGETHER. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING BOARD MEMBER MOSER'S RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND CANOPY TREES, MORE TREES, CORRECT SPECIES OF TREES. MR. MAYOR, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. NO, I HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH, OKAY. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THIS IS THE CRA BOARD VOTING CORRECT? YES. AND SO NOW DOES THIS ALSO THEN GOING TO GO TO THE COMMISSION AFTERWARDS OR DOES THE CRA IS THIS THE FINAL VOTE. THE CRA IS VOTING CRA FUNDING TO THE CRA PLAN AND CRA IS BOARD THE CITY COMMISSION. MAY APPOINT. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY BUDGET AMENDMENT NECESSARY. BUT IF THERE WAS, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO.

BUT THERE IS. SO THERE IS NO THE CR, THE CITY COMMISSION. AND THAT'S WHY PANEL IS ASKING FOR THE VOTE NOW BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO WAIT, BECAUSE THE NEXT CRA MEETING ISN'T UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST. SO SHE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT OFF, LIKE GOING TO MEET ON AUGUST 11TH. THE CITY COMMISSION COULD ADDRESS SOMETHING ON AUGUST 11TH IF IT NEEDED TO. CRA IS NOT GOING TO MEET AGAIN UNTIL AUGUST 28TH, AND SO SHE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE CRA DECISION IS MADE NOW SO THAT SHE CAN GO FORWARD AND HELP OUT. OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN MAY AND JUST IT DIDN'T ALL LINK UP. SO WE'RE HAVING IT NOW. OKAY. TO GET THIS DONE NOW IS REALLY IMPORTANT OKAY? OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MADAM CLERK.

BOARD MEMBER. JAMES. OH, I'M SORRY. BOARD MEMBER. BROOKVILLE. YES. BOARD MEMBER. CLARK. VICE CHAIR. COLLINS. YES. AND CHAIR. RICH. YES. THANK YOU GUYS. WELL, THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL BE IN

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THANK YOU, MR. LAUGHLIN. NO, SIR. NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER MOSER.

BOARD MEMBER. WHALEN. NO, SIR. BOARD MEMBER BROOKVILLE. NO. OH MY GOSH. BOARD MEMBER. CLARK.

MR. VICE MAYOR AND I HAVE NONE EITHER. FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY. MR. BAGGETT, WILL

[4. BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR FY 2025 CYCLE #2 (RC): RESOLUTION No. 05-2025 CRA; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AWARD TO APPLICANTS FROM THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 CYCLE #2; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

JORDAN, WHO WILL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION? I TO MOVE RESOLUTR OH FIVE 2025. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY STAFF FIRST, OR YOU JUST GO. WE COULD JUST GET RIGHT TO IT.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO STAFF OR. NONE, MR. MAYOR? YES, I DO HAVE A COMMENT. OKAY.

IT'S A IT'S A SHORT RESOLUTION. SO STAFF. IS SUPERIOR TO ALL PRESENT TO PRESENT IT. BUT IT'S FOR THOSE FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE 36. SO IT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. SO I THINK UNLESS ANY OF THE NEW MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IT'S ACTUALLY FOR JUST TWO APPLICATIONS FOR CYCLE TWO. YEAH. SECOND TO LAST MEETING.

THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTED CRA TO ADD THESE TWO ITEMS TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT FUNDING. THE THIRD PROGRAM NEEDS TO. AND DID THE CRB CONSIDER THESE? YES. YES. THERE'S A SLIDE UP. RIGHT.

YES. AND THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR $1,000. OKAY. YES. THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO DO A FUND TRANSFER IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,151 TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE IN THE OVERAGE IF THEY WERE BOTH AT THEIR MAX MATCH, 41,000 700,000 OVER BOTH. CORRECT. 39,030 $9,801 MATCH THOSE. WELL, I VALUE THEIR CONSIDERATION ON THEIR VOTE ON THIS MATTER. SO ROLL CALL PLEASE. REAL QUICK THOUGH, BEFORE JUST SO IT'S CLARIFIED FOR THE RECORD. SO WE KNOW HOW THE RESOLUTION COULD BE FINALIZED. YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS UP THERE. ARE YOU ASKING FOR THEM TO. THOSE WERE JUST THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE CRB. AND THE CRB RECOMMENDED OPTION THREE. SO THAT IS THE ONE THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. CORRECT? OKAY. NO. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. VICE CHAIR. COLLINS. YES. BOARD MEMBER. CLARK. BOARD MEMBER. BRECHBILL.

YES. CHAIR. RICH. YES. MOTION PASSES. MR. BAGGETT, YOU READ ITEM FIVE FOR CONSIDERATION,

[5. CRA BUDGET AMENDMENT #03 TO FY 2025 - CDBG CV - PROJECT LIFT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 01-2025 CRA; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA) OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING BUDGET AMENDMENT #03 TO THE FISCAL YEAR (FY) 2025 CRA 7/28/2025 JT CRA/CRB/CCM BUDGET; APPROPRIATING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FOR PROJECT LIFT OF EAST STUART DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES IF I COULD. IF I COULD CHIME IN ON THIS. AT THE LAST MEETING, I TOLD YOU THAT WE DIDN'T. WE WEREN'T SURE IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD OR NOT. THERE'S ALSO AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL. WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO DO TODAY IS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, CONTINGENT UPON IT COMING IN SO AS TO NOT REQUIRE THE CRA TO HAVE TO WAIT

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YES. AND MONEY IS HARD TO COME BY NOW AS WE'RE LEARNING. SO WELL DONE. AND IT'S I CAN THINK

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