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          ORDER. HERE. VICE CHAIR PETERSON HERE. BOARD MEMBER. BOWLES. BOARD MEMBER. BROMFIELD. 
          HERE. BOARD MEMBER. STROM. BOARD MEMBER. VOGEL. HERE. ALL RIGHT. IF WE WILL, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND 
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JUSTICE FOR ALL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ANYONE? SECOND. I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? 
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ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL FOR ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE EIGHT 2125 LPA. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ANYBODY LIKE TO SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? GRAND. ALRIGHT. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS. CHAIR, I HAVE NONE. OKAY. COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS ON NON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS. OKAY. MR. CITY ATTORNEY AND ACTING CITY MANAGER OR IS THE QUASI JUDICIAL? BOTH OR JUST ONE? YEAH BOTH OF THEM ARE QUASI JUDICIAL OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THE AGENDA ITEM IS 1560. 
          [2. 1560 BOONE LLC., THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE WINDEMERE POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD) FOR PHASE 3B LOCATED AT 1961 NW FEDERAL HIGHWAY. (RC)(QJ): ORDINANCE No. 2546-2025; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE 3B OF THE “WINDEMERE POINT” COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD), PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN TO AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 1,995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYE'S RESTAURANT WITH DUAL DRIVE-THROUGH LANES, WHICH IS A REDUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 2,800 SQUARE FOOT MIXED-USE STRUCTURE INCLUDING RETAIL; SAID PROPERTY BEING LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST SIDE CORNER OF N.W. WINDEMERE DRIVE AND NW FEDERAL HIGHWAY; THEREBY PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
BOONE LLC, THE PROPERTY OWNER, IS REQUESTING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE WINDERMERE POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT KPD FOR PHASE THREE BE LOCATED AT 1961 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY RC, Q J ORDINANCE NUMBER 25462025. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE B OF THE WINDERMERE POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT KPD PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN TO AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 1995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYES RESTAURANT WITH DUAL DRIVE THRU LANES, WHICH IS A REDUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 2800 SQUARE FOOT MIXED USE STRUCTURE, INCLUDING RETAIL SAID PROPERTY BEING LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST SIDE CORNER OF NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE AND NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, THEREBY PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY. DO THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DISCLOSE? I MET WITH CITY STAFF. OKAY. ALL THOSE GIVING TESTIMONY. PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? AS YOU TESTIFY, PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE RECORD. PLEASE PRESENT YOUR TESTIMONY. YOU GUYS, INCLUDING ANY EVIDENCE AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE CASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MICHELLE ARBIZO, PLANNER ONE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I'M PRESENTING ITEM AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WINDERMERE POINTE. A PETITION TO DEVELOP A POPEYES FAST FOOD CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT WITH DOUBLE DRIVE THRU LANES WITHIN THE VACANT FOOTPRINT OF PHASE THREE B OF THE CPWD. PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2025, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S DECISION. PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ADDITIONALLY, TWO SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE WINDERMERE POINTE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT COMPRISES OF THREE PARCELS TOTALING NINE ACRES. 
          THE 1.64 ACRE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN TEAL IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, LOCATED AT 
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1961 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND IS SITUATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE AND US HIGHWAY ONE. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED BY A CPWD. 
          WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT. DEVELOPMENT. NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE IS SITUATED TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST. FEDERAL HIGHWAY IS SITUATED TO THE WEST. THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED CPWD, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST IS ALSO ZONED CPWD. THE SUBJECT PARCEL, AS WELL AS THE PARCELS TO THE SOUTH AND EAST, ARE DESIGNATED BY THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. TO THE NORTH AGAIN IS NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE. TO THE WEST IS NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR PHASE THREE BE GRANTED UNDER RESOLUTION 99 DASH 2017 AND ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2017, AUTHORIZED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 2034 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE AND A 1794 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU TOTALING 3828FT■!S. THE APPLICAT SEEKS TO AMEND THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ELIMINATE THE RETAIL PORTION, DESIGNATING THE RESTAURANT AS THE SOLE USE FOR PHASE THREE BE. 
          THE APPLICATION IS SEEKING APPROVAL FROM THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND THE STEWARD CITY COMMISSION TO CONSTRUCT A 1995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYES RESTAURANT WITH A DUAL DRIVE THROUGH. THIS PROPOSAL REPRESENTS A REDUCTION OF 1833FT■!S FROM THE TOTAL SQUARE. 
          FOOTAGE OF PHASE THREE BE ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IN 2017. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6.0, 5.02. F OF THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ALL LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MUST PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF FIVE DESIGN BUILDING TREATMENTS. 
          STAFF IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING. THE DISPLAY WINDOWS, THE NATURAL FACE BRICK, THE WOOD FACADE PAINTED FACE BRICK, AND THE DECORATIVE LIGHT FIXTURES. REFLECTED ON THE SLIDE ARE CLEAR IMAGES OF THE LOCATION, THE CURRENT LOCATION. THE CITY OF STUART WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SANITATION SERVICES ONLY TO THE SITE, ENSURING CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE SUPPORT. 
          THE EXISTING PARCEL PROVIDES A TOTAL OF 103 PARKING SPACES. OF THESE, 21 SPACES ARE ALLOCATED TO THE CURRENT RETAIL USE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT WILL REMOVE NINE EXISTING SPACES, BUT THE PLAN INCLUDES STRIPING 16 NEW SPACES. TO OFFSET THIS IMPACT, THE RESTAURANT WILL REQUIREG SPACES, THEY ARE 64 SURPLUS SPACE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IF THE REMAINING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITH THIS THREE PHASE THREE BE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 122 TRIPS DURING THE MORNING PEAK HOURS, AND THAT IS 67 ENTERING AND 55 EXITING, AS WELL AS 229 TRIPS DURING THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS 127 ENTERING AND 102 EXITING. THE ANALYSIS COMPARED THE PROPOSED TRIP GENERATION WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT'S REVIEW CONCLUDED THAT THE NET TRIP GENERATION FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT REFLECTS A REDUCTION IN AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS TRIP AND A DE MINIMIS INCREASE, WHICH IS LESS THAN 1% IN THE MORNING PEAK HOUR TRIP. THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INDICATES AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE OF 57% AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF 42%, ACCORDING TO KIMLEY-HORN, THE CITY'S CONSULTANT REVIEWED. THE SUBMITTED DRAINAGE STATEMENT DEMONSTRATES THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE CITY OF STUART DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. 
          THE THERE'S ONE TREE, THE LIVE OAK TREE IMPACTED, AND THIS WILL BE RELOCATED ON SITE BY A CERTIFIED ARBORIST AND WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO WORK COMMENCING. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO 
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INSTALL EIGHT CANOPY TREES THAT INCLUDE HOLLIES, CRAPE MYRTLE, PINK LIVE OAK AND A FOXTAIL PALM HEDGE. MATERIAL WILL CONSIST OF COCO PLUMS, GREEN ISLAND, FICUS AND TRINET, AS WELL AS ANNUAL GROUND COVERS. THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE HAS BEEN LANDSCAPED AND WELL MAINTAINED FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THE CONDITIONS WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WATER AND SEWER SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED BY MARTIN COUNTY. ALL CIVIL UTILITY PLANS MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY MARTIN COUNTY. 
          ALL PROPOSED DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MUST BE CONSTRUCTED PER THE CITY OF STUART DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. CONSTRUCTION DETAILS. THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE APPROVAL FOR MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE PROPOSED DUMPSTER LOCATION WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A SITE PERMIT, WHICH IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PERMIT, IF ANY, OF THE PROPOSED SANITATION RECEPTACLES PER USE UNIT REQUIRE MORE THAN TWICE A WEEK PICKUP, THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER WILL BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL VERDE PACKS WITH EIGHT YARD RECEPTACLES. THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS PROPOSING A TOTAL OF TEN SIGNS AS PART OF POPEYE'S RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MARKS THE FINAL PHASE OF THE WINDEMERE POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE INCLUDES A MIX OF WALL MOUNTED AND GRAPHIC ELEMENTS. DETAILS AS FOLLOWS. THERE IS ONE SIGN, ONE WALL SIGN ON THE WEST ELEVATION FRONTING US ONE MEASURING 43.2FT■!S. ANOTHER ONE WALL SIGN ON THE ELEVATION FRONTING NORTHWEST WINDEMERE DRIVE, MEASURING 24.1FT■!S. THE GRAPHIC AND BRANDING ELEMENTS ONE ONE THAT SAYS LOUISIANA KITCHEN SIGN WITH CHICKEN GRAPHICS TEN SQUARE FEET ONE STANDALONE CHICKEN GRAPHIC 33FT■!S ONE. LOE THAT CHICKEN GRAPHIC 117FT■!S OE FAMOUS LOUISIANA CHICKEN GRAPHIC 40FT■!S FOUR CHICKEN GRAPHIC SHUTTER ELEMENTS 33FT■!. 
          NOTABLY, THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE A MONUMENT SIGN OR ANY TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION SIGNAGE, WHICH WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL 2014 PDQ RESTAURANT APPROVAL. THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, APPROVED IN 2014, DESIGNATED THE LOCATION FOR A PDQ RESTAURANT. AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL, A SPECIFIC SIGNAGE PACKAGE WAS AUTHORIZED, CONSISTING OF SEVEN SIGNS, INCLUDING ONE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION SIGN. THIS SIGNAGE CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE POPEYES DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE REMAINS A REFERENCE POINT FOR EVALUATING THE PROPOSED. THE ORIGINAL APPROVED SIGNAGE FROM 2014 DETAIL IS AS FOLLOWS. WALL SIGNS TWO WALL SIGNS MEASURING 42FT■!S. DIRECTIONAL SIGNS WHICH WERE TWO, EACH MEASURING 2.8FT■. A MONUMENT SIGN, ONE FREESTANDING MONUMENT SIGN, AND A ONE TEMPORARY SIGN FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES, AND THERE WAS ONE FLAGPOLE INSTALLATION. THAT WAS ALL PART OF THE PDQ APPROVAL THE SIGNAGE PACKAGE. STAFF DOES FIND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. APPROVAL IS CURRENTLY BEING SOUGHT FOR TEN SIGNS BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD AND THE SUBJECT TO AND SUBJECT TO THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL. 
          STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE AT IS AT. IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH OR COMPLEMENTARY TO THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE PLAZA. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT PREPARED A PRESENTATION AFTER THE PRESENTATION, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE. THE PETITIONER MAY NOW GIVE TESTIMONY AND CALL ANY WITNESSES. WELL GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. NICE TO BE BACK. MY NAME IS ROBERT SHERMAN. I REPRESENT 1560 BOONE LLC, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PARCEL. I WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH WITH PDQ, AS WELL AS WITH THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL USE ON THE OUTPARCEL. WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR 
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REALLY IS TO HAVE THE SAME USE THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BACK IN. I'M KIND OF SHOCKED TO SAY IT 2015, WHEN WE WENT AHEAD AND HAD A SIGNED LEASE WITH PDQ AT THE TIME. UNFORTUNATELY PDQ LEFT. WE CAME BACK IN AGAIN, AMENDED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017 FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT WE ALL SAW TONIGHT, SHOWING THE TWO BUILDINGS. AT THE TIME, WE FELT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD USE BRINGING IN RETAILER WITH A ANOTHER FOOD USE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, BY THE TIME WE GOT THAT DONE, COVID HIT, WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF THE EXTENSIONS WHICH WERE ALLOWED BY THE GOVERNMENT, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND PROUD TO FINALLY GET THROUGH THE APPROVAL. ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE HAD WAS WORKING WITH THE DUMPSTERS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE IT WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO BRING POPEYES TO THE SITE. IT'S THE SAME USE. IT'S ALMOST HALF THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL CHICKEN USE. SO THAT ALL HAS HELPED GREATLY ON TRAFFIC, ON SIZE, ON SANITATION AND ON TRAFFIC. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PDQ, OF THE POPEYES. REPRESENTATIVES OF POPEYES ARE HERE. IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR NEW PROTOTYPE, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT LOOKING BUILDING. AND I THINK IT'S VERY MODERN. IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT NEED. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T A LOT OF FOOD UP AND DOWN THE HIGHWAY IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF FAST FOOD QUALITY, AS I THINK. SO AS REPRESENTATIVE 1560 BOONE, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THIS WILL BE THE FINAL PIECE IN A TEN YEAR PROJECT. AND AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, WHEN WE DID THE LA FITNESS AND THE LIKES, IT WOULD REALLY BE GREAT TO FINALLY CLOSE THIS AND COMPLETE IT. WE HAVE A GREAT TENANT, I THINK STAFF AND EVERYBODY AT THE CITY IS ACCEPTING HAPPY WITH THIS AND WE WOULD HOPEFULLY GET YOUR VOTE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DO BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER? I GUESS SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WERE IF IT'S A SMALLER SITE, WHY. SO LIKE DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF SIGNS. WHY LIKE IT FEELS THE PLAZA I DROVE THROUGH THE PLAZA IS FAIRLY NEUTRAL AND VERY NICELY LANDSCAPED, BUT THIS HAS VERY BRIGHT AND LOTS OF SIGNAGE AND LOTS OF CHICKENS. AND JUST WONDERING LIKE IF THIS IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM FAMILIAR TO ME AS FAR AS THE OTHER POPEYES LOCATIONS, SO IS THIS A NEW PROTOTYPE? IS THERE ANY ANY CHANGING? BECAUSE I GUESS THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN ABOUT THIS, I GUESS THERE'S ONE HERE, AND IT WAS CERTAINLY MY CONCERN TOO, IS THAT IT JUST WASN'T REALLY IN KEEPING WITH THE REST OF THE PLAZA. AND IT ALSO DOESN'T SEEM TO BE IN KEEPING WITH THE OTHER POPEYES RESTAURANTS. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING, AND THE POPEYES REP IS HERE TO ANSWER THAT. BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT OF THE WAY SIGNAGE IS LOOKING AT, EVERYBODY CONSIDERS SIGNAGE DIFFERENTLY. A SIGNAGE, PER THE CODE IS PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT. IT'S NOT TRULY A VISUAL SIGNAGE WITH NAMES AND NUMBERS. SO THIS IS THEIR PROTOTYPE. POPEYES IS HERE AND I'M SURE THEY CAN TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THIS IS THEIR MODERN PROTOTYPE. THIS IS THEIR NEW PROTOTYPE. 
          IT'S MORE STREAMLINED, IT'S MORE SQUARE, IT'S CLEANER, HAS A LOT MORE GLASS THAN THE OTHER ONES USED TO HAVE. THERE'S A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY, AND I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFIC TO THAT. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WOULD LOOK AT SIGNAGE AS A SIGN WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE CODES. THEY CONSIDER ANYTHING ATTACHED AS A SIGN. SO. I REALLY CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? OH, COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, 
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PLEASE. THERE IS THAT. I BROUGHT THE PLAN. HEY, I'M SERGIO SAINT HILL, I'M THE MANAGING OPERATOR FOR FRANCHISEE. YEAH. YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. SO ALMOST EVERY YEAR POPEYES UPDATE THEIR DESIGN. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE LATEST ONES. 
          WE'RE GOING MORE DIGITAL. SO YOU WHEN YOU GO IN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE KIOSKS. SO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE CLEANER AND LESS ONE ON ONE INTERACTION IN TERMS OF THE SIGN BECAUSE IT'S SO SLEEK. I GUESS YOU WANT TO WE WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S STILL A POPEYES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THE TRADITIONAL ONE THAT YOU GREW UP. NO. SO, OKAY. AND CAN WE AT THIS POINT ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO. YEAH. YES. OKAY. TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. NUMBER ONE, OTHER THAN THE SIGNAGE, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT LIKE FOR US TO APPROVE? SO THIS WAS AN ALREADY APPROVED PROJECT. CORRECT. SO ARE WE'RE APPROVING IT OR OTHER THAN THE SIGNAGE, THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ALREADY. LIKE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR THAT RESOLUTION WAS IT WAS JUST STATED FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND A RETAIL. SO THAT THAT VACANT PIECE OF THAT PARCEL WAS INTENDED FOR THAT. THEY ARE CHANGING. IT'S COMING IN AS A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PUD BECAUSE THEY'RE CHANGING THAT FIRST APPROVAL. THEY'RE MINIMIZING IT TO A SMALLER RESTAURANT AND NOT DOING THE RETAIL. SO THEY'RE COMING TO CHANGE THAT. AS FAR AS WHAT WAS PROVIDED AND WHAT WAS APPROVED. 
          IT FOLLOWS THE CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. OKAY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THE SIGNAGE. 
          OKAY. AND WHAT IS IT ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SIGNAGE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DISAGREED WITH THE SIGNAGE. YOU DID NOT FEEL THAT THAT MET. SO IS IT THE NUMBER? IS IT THE SQUARE FEET? LIKE WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND NOT AGREEING? SO OUR NORMAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS FOR FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. NOW THIS IS A PUD, BUT A NORMAL STRAIGHT ZONING WOULD BE TWO WALL SIGNS. OKAY. AND THIS IS THIS IS A LOT MORE. AND IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PLAZA, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S ALREADY PRESENTLY THERE. YES. SO THAT WAS WHY WE CONCLUDED AND IDENTIFIED THAT THIS IS NOT FOLLOW WHAT OUR NORMAL PLANS ARE. OKAY. SO. AND CAN I CONFIRM THAT THERE'S NO MONUMENT SIGN? YOU'RE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING AT THE ROAD TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS COUNT OF SIGNS. SO THE ANSWER IS THAT, YES, THAT MONUMENT SIGN WAS APPROVED AND IS PART OF THIS. BACK ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BACK IN FEBRUARY 2015, WHEN IT WAS THE HDC BUSINESS MODEL. SO THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A NEW SIGN APPROVED BECAUSE THERE'S ONE, BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED. 
          AND AND JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR STATEMENT, KELLY, THIS WAS APPROVED AS A STANDALONE CHICKEN FRANCHISE. PRIOR SIGNAGE IS THAT WERE ON THAT APPROVAL ARE PRETTY MUCH BEING CARRIED OVER. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE EXTRA SIGNS THAT STAFF IS NOT APPROVING, OKAY, AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT CARRIED THROUGH, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PARAPHRASE, BUT THE THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE IS NOT BEEN APPROVED. AND IF IF POPEYES FEELS THEY NEED IT, THEY WILL NEED TO COME THROUGH WITH THEIR SIGN CRITERIA AND ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT STAFF AT THIS POINT IS NOT APPROVING ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNS. CORRECT? NOT CORRECT. CORRECT. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE ALLOWED BY CODE TWO. AND WHEN THIS LAST PUD WAS APPROVED, THEY WERE ALLOWED SIX WHICH WAS FOUR EXTRA. AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL. ON TOP OF THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR TEN WALL SIGNS INSTEAD OF SIX. NO THERE'S SIX. NO IT'S SO SIX WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED WITH THE PUD. THIS REQUEST WAS TOTAL 1010. SO FOUR ADDITIONAL. SO WE'VE GONE FROM TWO TO 6 TO 10. WELL THE TWO IS FOR STRAIGHT ZONING. SINCE THIS WAS A PUD WHAT WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY WAS SIX FOR THAT PDQ. SO THIS REQUEST, ONCE THE POPEYES CAME IN WE SAW THAT IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL FOUR. SO THE SIX THAT WERE APPROVED AS THAT BASED ON BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE WHEN WE DID THE FLOOR AND DECOR A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT A SPECIFIC SIZE. SO WAS THE SIX ALSO APPROVED BASED ON A SPECIFIC SIZE? CORRECT? YES. 
          THEY WERE. NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OKAY. OKAY. HOPE I DIDN'T CONFUSE IT. I'M SORRY IF 
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I DID. OKAY. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE TIMELINE. SO 2015 IT GOT APPROVED AS A PDQ STANDALONE RESTAURANT. AND THEN IN 2017 THEY CAME IN AND AMENDED, GAVE UP THAT USE AND GOT APPROVED FOR THE MIXED USE BUILDING. IN 2017, WHAT WAS APPROVED UNDER THE RESOLUTION WAS A TENANT AND A DRIVE THROUGH 1790 FOUR SQUARE FOOT. THIS THIS IS WHAT'S AMENDING THAT THIS THIS APPLICATION IS AMENDING IT TO STATE THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE DRIVE THROUGH, NOT THE RETAIL. SO IN THE SIX SIGNS BEFORE, DID THAT INCLUDE THE RETAIL AND THE CHICKEN, THE PDQ OR DID IT JUST WAS IT SIX SIGNS JUST FOR THE PDQ, SIX SIGNS JUST FOR THE PDQ. AND SO THEN THERE WERE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE FOR THE RETAIL. CORRECT. AND IS THIS SMALLER OR LARGER THAN THE PDQ WAS. THIS IS MUCH SMALLER, HALF THE SIZE, SO HALF THE SIZE, BUT TWICE AS MANY SIGNS. JUST CHECKING. OKAY, THAT POSSIBLY IS THE FACT. OKAY, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNS, CORRECT? OKAY. THAT'S THEIR PROTOTYPE AND THAT'S THEIR CORPORATE STRUCTURE. GOT IT. OKAY. DOES THE CITY STAFF HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO COMMENTS RELATED TO THE PRESENTATION? WE DO NOT. OKAY. DOES THE PETITIONER WISH TO OFFER ANY OTHER REBUTTAL TESTIMONY? NO. I THINK WE WENT THROUGH PRETTY CLEARLY. THE SIGNAGE WOULD SEEM TO BE ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE MAKING THIS HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED. I WISH WE COULD HAVE FINANCIALLY, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHERE WE ARE, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO TRY TO CLOSE THIS OUT AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. SHOULD WE GET PUBLIC? OKAY, SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. IF WE GET PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CLARIFIED. SHOULD WE DO IT NOW. 
          BECAUSE ON THE THING IT SAYS PUBLIC COMMENT COME AFTER. BUT SHOULD I DO IT BEFORE CLOSING THE HEARING. IT'S A GUIDE, BUT TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT CITY COMMISSION OPERATES IS THERE'S GOT TO BE A MOTION BEFORE WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST TO WE CAN I THINK WE SHOULD CLOSE THE THE THE EVIDENCE IN THE MATTER CURRENTLY. OKAY. AND YOU GUYS CAN ALWAYS VOTE TO OPEN IT BACK UP OKAY. TO HAVE MORE EVIDENCE COME IN. BUT DO WE MAKE A MOTION THEN ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO DECIDE AND THEN WE'LL VOTE. WE WE CLOSE IT FIRST MAKE THE MOTION, THEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. CORRECT. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING PROTOCOL. OKAY. 
          TO WE ARE OFFICIALLY CLOSING THE HEARING AS THE CONCLUSION OF ALL EVIDENCE. AND WE AS BOARD MEMBERS ARE TO DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC, ASKING TO CITE THE FACTS BEING CONSIDERED, AND THEN STATE THE POSITION AND FORMULATE A MOTION. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO FORMULATE A MOTION? I WOULD FORMULATE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE POPEYE'S WITHOUT, WITH A DECREASE IN SIGNAGE BACK TO THE SIX THAT WERE APPROVED UNDER THE PDQ. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND? SO ARE WE ONLY VOTING ON APPROVAL OF THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE? THIS IS NOT ANY OF THE POPEYE'S IS ALREADY ALLOWED OR IT'S ALL. IT'S ONE. IT'S ONLY ONE VOTE. IT'S NOT POPEYE'S AND THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE IS SEPARATE. I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON. NO, WE'RE. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. YOU'RE ACTUALLY VOTING TO AMEND THE PUD TO REDUCE THE RESTAURANT SIZE FROM THE ORIGINAL APPROVED PDQ, AND ALSO TO REMOVE THE RETAIL PORTION AND TO TO APPROVE THE POPEYE'S WITH THE DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH AND WITH THE SIGNAGE THEY'RE REQUESTING. I JUST WANT TO ADD ON TO THAT, YOU'VE HEARD THE TERM STRAIGHT ZONING AND PUD, SO STRAIGHT ZONING THAT YOU'VE HEARD SOME THINGS DISCUSSED. IF IT WAS STRAIGHT ZONING, THIS IS NOT STRAIGHT ZONING, IT'S PUD. SO IT'S A CUSTOM ZONING. YES, WE CAN USE THE STRAIGHT ZONING AS A GUIDE, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DEVIATED FROM THE GUIDE IN 2017, IN THE PRIOR. SO ANYTIME WE MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE LIKE THIS, IT HAS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. SO OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SO BUT THERE'S NOTHING HOLDING US TO THE SIX SIGNS EITHER FROM 20. 
          NO, NO THAT'S A CONDITION. STRAIGHT ZONING BACK TO THE TWO SIGNS. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE PUD. IT'S CUSTOM. AND YOU GUYS CAN PLACE YOUR OWN CONDITIONS ON IT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION, BUT DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR AMEND OR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE. AND YOU CAN JUST SECOND IT JUST SO YOU CAN OPEN THE MATTER FOR DISCUSSION DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT. BUT JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, WELL, 
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WE COULD IF WE SECOND IT, WE COULD TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN. CORRECT. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION OKAY. AND THEN DELIBERATE. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD AND GIVE IT TO THE LOVELY LADY SITTING HERE. I DO. OKAY. 
          OUR FIRST ONE IS LLOYD, NEVADA. I'M SORRY IF I SAID NEVILLE. NEVILLE. SORRY. CLOSE ENOUGH. 
          OKAY. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. GEORGE LLOYD NEVILLE I LIVE, I LIVE IN WINDERMERE. I'M A ONE OF THE 580 RESIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. I'M JUST I'M GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS. OKAY. I GUESS MY FIRST BULLET POINT IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE THREE WAYS TO GET INTO THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY. YOU CAN EITHER CUT THROUGH RACE TRACK, YOU CAN USE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO LA FITNESS AND THAT COMPLEX WITHIN THERE, AND USE THE PRIVATE ROAD WHICH IS WINDERMERE DRIVE. IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S OWNED BY THE OUR POA. ALL RIGHT. IT'S NOT MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF STUART OR ANY OR ANY OTHER ENTITY. SO ANY SOUTHBOUND CUSTOMER FOR THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY WILL HAVE TO STOP AT THAT PARTICULAR STOPLIGHT BY WINDERMERE. ALL RIGHT. AND MAKE THE RIGHT, MAKE THE LEFT HAND TURN INTO THE PARTICULAR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW WITH THE 384 APARTMENTS THAT THEY HAD INSTALLED OVER THERE, AND THE 185 APARTMENTS THAT WERE INSTALLED ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD. PEOPLE MAKING THE U-TURNS. THERE IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO I'M JUST IN HOPES THAT PEOPLE WILL TAKE TRAFFIC INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION. I UNDERSTAND THIS TRAFFIC STUDY. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PAPERWORK, I NOTICED THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE IN 2017 AND 18, WHICH IS EIGHT YEARS AGO. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN UPDATED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, JUST BY A SHOW OF HANDS, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN INTO THIS SHOPPING CENTER IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND SAW HOW CROWDED IT IS WITH PARKING, RIGHT, AND MOST OF THE TURN AISLES, AND THERE ARE 24FT WIDE, WHICH IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS TO GET BY. BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WHEN THIS PLACE GETS ITS SUPPLIES, IT'S GOING TO BE A TRACTOR TRAILER COMING IN THERE. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT TRACTOR TRAILER WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE ITS WAY IN AND OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S REALLY NO THERE IS ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING LOSS, SO THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. BUT ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME, AND I'M SURE IT BOTHERS THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, IS THE FACT THAT THE YOU DO HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. CORRECT. AND I WOULD HOPE ALL RIGHT, I WOULD HOPE. WELL, THEN I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'D UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS TOTALLY A NON-CONFORMING BUILDING, TOTALLY NON-CONFORMING. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE THAT EVEN VAGUELY RESEMBLES ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT PARTICULAR SHOPPING CENTER. RIGHT? SO HOPES THAT YOU MIGHT PUT SOME RESTRAINTS ONTO THE WAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING LOOKS, BECAUSE IT'S HIDEOUS. I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE LIKE MODERN, BUT NOT ME. THE. NO. I KNOW I HAD SOMETHING ELSE, BUT OH, LANDSCAPING. IT'S REALLY NICE THAT THEY PUT SOME LOLLIPOP TREES AROUND THIS THING HERE, BUT FROM WINDERMERE DRIVE, I KNOW THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES, BUT FROM WITH FROM WINDERMERE DRIVE. WHEN YOU LOOK OVER THIS WAY, THIS THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 150FT FROM, FROM OUR ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. AND I WAS HOPING THAT IF IF YOU APPROVED THIS THING, YOU'D MAKE THEM PUT IN A WALL OF FICUS OR, OR SEAGRASS OR SOMETHING. 
          SOMETHING SOMETHING BUT SOMETHING A WALL. SO, SO, SO, SO WE'RE NOT SEEING THESE LIT UP ORANGE POPEYES SIGNS AS WE RETURN TO HOME. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. I HAVE PEG CONNICK. GOOD EVENING. PEG CONNICK. 508. DO YOU KNOW MY ADDRESS? I'M ON SUNFLOWER IN THE PINES. I AM A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE PINEAPPLE PLANTATION FOR THE PINES. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED, PARTICULARLY THE THE RESIDENTS ON THE WINDERMERE SIDE. OVER THE PAST DECADE, WE'VE SEEN FAST FOOD CHANGE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S MORE DRIVE THRU, MORE TAKEOUT, LESS DINE IN. 
          ORIGINALLY, THE PDQ WAS A ONE LANE DRIVE THROUGH. THIS IS A TWO LANE DRIVE THROUGH THE TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH HERE AGAIN, COMING OFF OF US, ONE COMING IN THERE, TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC GOING TAKE OUT GOING AROUND THIS BUILDING AND THEN EXITING. 
          AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO EXIT. WE DO NOT WANT MORE TRAFFIC COMING ONTO WINDERMERE. 
          AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC COMING ON TO WINDERMERE, EXITING THE SHOPPING CENTER, MAKING A LEFT ONTO WINDERMERE TO COME OUT AT THAT LIGHT, WHICH IS A DISASTER 
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ON A GOOD DAY, IN PERFECT WEATHER WITH NO SEASONAL PEOPLE. HOW'S THAT? AND YES, VERY CONCERNED THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE SO MANY YEARS AGO AND A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THAT AREA. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENTS IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE END OF THE DRIVE THROUGH A NO RIGHT TURN SIGN. HOPEFULLY IT WILL DETER SOME PEOPLE FROM MAKING THE RIGHT TURN AND THEN MAKING GOING TO WINDERMERE AND MAKING THE LEFT TURN AND GOING OUT TO THAT LIGHT AND DIRECTING ALL THE TRAFFIC BACK INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER. IF THEY WANT IT, LET THEM HAVE IT AND OUT ONTO US. ONE WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LANDSCAPING ON THAT WINDERMERE SIDE. YOU NEED TO BE AWARE. YES, WE OWN THAT PROPERTY, WE OWN WINDERMERE AND WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT. WE HAVE A. A CONTRACT WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER WHO IS IN DEFAULT OF THAT. THEY HAVE NOT PAID US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINING THAT AREA. WE DO THE CLEANUP. WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO PICK UP THEIR TRASH FROM THE FROM THE STARBUCKS, FROM THE RACETRACK, FROM ALL OF IT. AND FRANKLY, WE HAVE DISCUSSED CLOSING OFF THAT ENTRANCE ONTO WINDERMERE UNLESS WE ARE GIVEN THE FUNDS THAT ARE DUE TO US. THE RIGHT TURN SIGN TRASH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MANDATED THAT THIS RESTAURANT HAS TO PICK UP THEIR TRASH, AT LEAST ON A DAILY BASIS. THE THE TRASH THAT WE PICK UP ALREADY IS OUT OF CONTROL, AND NOBODY FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER SEEMS TO CARE ABOUT IT, SO WE WOULD LIKE THAT CLEANED UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOAN DICKINSON. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING, JOAN DICKINSON. I LIVE ON MARSH RABBIT. I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THE COMMUNITY. IT'S CHARMING, IT'S FRIENDLY. THERE ARE DOGS EVERYWHERE. EVERYONE WALKS THEIR DOG. EVERYBODY SAYS HELLO TO EACH OTHER. KIDS ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREETS. IT'S JUST A NICE, FRIENDLY, WALKABLE COMMUNITY. WHEN I HEAR A DOUBLE DRIVE THRU LANE, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS CAR IS KING. THAT IS NOT A WALKABLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CARS ARE MOVING THROUGH AS FAST AS THEY CAN. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A DOUBLE LANE COMING THROUGH, IT MEANS DOUBLE THE TRAFFIC. I HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A SIGN ON WINDERMERE. THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINESS SIGN THERE. PUTTING UP A SIGN ON WINDERMERE MEANS THEY'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME IN OFF OF THAT ROAD, TURNING INTO THE PARKING LOT THERE AND SHOPPING AND GOING BACK OUT THAT WAY. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM COMING ONTO OUR STREET. AND IT IS OUR STREET. I WALK IT EVERY SINGLE DAY AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND I'D LIKE IT TO STAY THAT WAY. BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT HAVING THIS SET UP TO ME, YES, THEY MAY HAVE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT. 
          THEY REDUCE THE RETAIL TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH. THAT'S NOT A GREAT TRADE OFF TO ME. IT'S A CALM, QUIET COMMUNITY. THIS FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT. 
          ESTHETICS DON'T MATCH WHAT WE HAVE. I WANT TO ECHO A FEW THINGS THAT PEGGY JUST SAID. 
          MINIMIZING THE SIGNAGE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. CLEARLY. YEAH, THE THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF IT IS NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO HAVE MORE CONSIDERATION INTO HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND GETTING OUT OF THAT CORNER. WE HAVEN'T BEEN LIVING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY LONG. WE MOVED FROM PORT SAINT LUCIE. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN NUMEROUS CRASHES ON THAT CORNER, THE PEOPLE MAKING U-TURNS EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S A NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE. I JUST WANT TO SEE IT CALMER. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMUNITY MAINTAINED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ROBIN TARBUTTON. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ROBIN TARBUTTON AND I AM A COMMUNITY MEMBER OF THE PINEAPPLE PLANTATION. I DO A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK FOR MY 
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COMMUNITY. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A BOARD MEMBER FROM MY SIDE. SO THANKS TO PEOPLE LIKE JOAN AND MY NEIGHBORS HERE, WE'RE ALL HERE TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE WE ARE DIVIDED BY A PLAYGROUND TO BE 580 RESIDENTS. I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE GARBAGE. WHEN WE MENTIONED THE APARTMENTS BEING BUILT, THE RAT INFESTATION THAT CAME WITH THAT WAS ATROCIOUS. I HAVE AN ANNUAL HALLOWEEN PARTY AND I HAD RATS RUNNING ALONG MY BACK FENCE AND I WAS THINKING, WHERE ARE THE KIDS GOING TO PAINT PUMPKINS? THAT'S GOING TO BE INSIDE MY POOL AREA TO KEEP THEM SAFE. 
          THAT'S INSANE THAT THAT WAS ONE ISSUE. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ESTHETICS, THE SHOPPING CENTER HAS IS COMPLETELY LEASED. I SAW THE SIGNS COME DOWN AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE ALL VERY HAPPY FOR THEM. I DO SEE THE STALEMATE IN THIS PROJECT AS A BENEFICIAL MOMENT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH STUART AT LARGE. MY ADDRESS IS ACTUALLY MARTIN COUNTY, SO WE DON'T REALLY INTERACT ON A DAILY BASIS UNLESS I CALL 911. 
          AND YOU GUYS THANKFULLY SHOW UP. WITH THAT SAID, I STILL FEEL LIKE AS A RESIDENT THAT BACKS UP TO US ONE, THE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BRING FROM THE APARTMENTS, FROM THE ADDRESSES THAT ARE ON JENSEN BEACH BOULEVARD, BECAUSE THE KIDS LIKE TO COME THROUGH THE COMMUNITY EITHER BY BIKE, BY FOOT, BY GOLF CART. WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS DRIVING GOLF CARTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY COME RACING THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE ON WINDERMERE TO GET TO RACETRACK, TO GET TO THE GYM, TO GET TO WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANT TO GO TO, WHICH IS GREAT, WHICH MRS. DICKINSON MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. WE'RE VERY BIG INTO A HEALTHY COMMUNITY. EVERY EVENT THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WILL ALWAYS BE OFFERING FRUIT AND WATER, BECAUSE IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S HALLOWEEN DOESN'T MEAN THE KIDS ONLY NEED CANDY. WE TRY TO MAINTAIN OUR OUTDOOR SPACES, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE ARE, AS RESIDENTS, RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE PRESERVES AND WETLANDS. AND LIKE OUR POA MEMBER SAID TO YOU, THE SHOPPING CENTER IS NOT MEETING THAT STANDARD. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A DILIGENT PHASE OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT LAND IS UPKEPT WITH THE STATE STANDARDS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS OF OUR STATE. SO TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AS WE'VE BEEN WRITING A SHIP, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD ISSUES AS A COMMUNITY, IT'S LIKE A BLOW TO THE FACE, ALMOST, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO AMEND AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN ONGOING. THE SHOPPING CENTER WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WOULD STEP UP, BUT WE CAN'T HOLD THEM TO THAT. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS AT THIS MOMENT COULD HELP US, RIGHT? THAT SHIP IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE GARBAGE, IT'S GOING THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND THE GARBAGE, THE ACCIDENTS. 
          I'VE CALLED 911 ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BECAUSE I HEAR THEM LIVING BACK UP TO THAT, AND THAT'S A FEDERAL ROAD. SO IT TAKES A LOT MORE TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          COLLEEN. NEVADA. HI COLLEEN, I LIVE ON WINDERMERE DRIVE. I HATE THIS IDEA OF A POPEYE'S GOING IN THERE. I WOULD RATHER SEE RETAIL. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD JUST BE RETAIL. CORRECT? THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IT'S NOT WHAT'S PROPOSED BEFORE US. OH. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RATHER SEE. IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD HELP. AND IF IT'S NOT RETAIL, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE LIGHTING. HOW MUCH LIGHTING IS THERE GOING TO BE? THERE IS A LIGHT STUDY I KNOW. YEAH. STUDY THAT. MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T DO LIGHT POLLUTION. AND I THINK JODIE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF NOW. WELL I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I OPPOSE IT AND IT'S IT'S A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE. THANKS. CHAIR. IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT, THEY DO HAVE TO SUBMIT A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN AND THAT IS IN THE PACKAGE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOUR LIGHT SPILLAGE AND YOUR LIGHT POLLUTION HAS TO BE A ZERO AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE. SO THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY SPILLAGE OVER INTO THE ROADWAYS OR PAST THEIR PROPERTY LINE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT, NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO US THAT SAYS BY MR. CHASE BEAUCHAMP, SUBJECT, POPEYES AND COFFEE RUSH. NO OBJECTION TO THE PLANNED USE OF POPEYES OR COFFEE RUSH. HOWEVER, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF ELEVATIONS PRESENTED FOR BOTH POPEYES AND COFFEE RUSH ARE LIKE AL SLOP. WHAT AI O AI SLOP O OKAY, SORRY. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT OKAY. THE EXAMPLE OF THE PORT SAINT LUCIE BOULEVARD POPEYES LOCATION, PRESENTED ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE STAFF REPORT, IS MORE IN LINE WITH ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND STYLE OF JENSEN 
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BEACH. I WOULD SUGGEST A REVIEW OF THE ARCHITECTURE PER SECTION 6.05.02 DASH BUILDING DESIGN AND LOCATION. OKAY, WOULD WE LIKE TO HAVE THE PETITIONER COME AND RESPOND TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS? YES, YES. DO WE NEED TO SWEAR HIM BACK IN? ARE WE OKAY? NO, HE'S ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME RESPOND. AND THANK YOU, NEIGHBORS, FOR COMING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THERE IS INTERACTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW MANY OF YOU WERE NOT HERE, BUT WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL PROJECT APPROVED FOR THE ENTIRE CBD, WE HAD A LOT OF INTERACTION. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I'VE ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION. I'VE ACTUALLY MET THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION BECAUSE HE SENT SOME LETTERS AND EMAILS ABOUT THE COST THAT WERE ADDRESSED, AND WE MET FACE TO FACE WITH THEM. WE MET FACE TO FACE WITH HIS. WE HAD NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS IN REFERENCE TO THE MAINTENANCE THAT IS GOING ON. THIS IS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE BY THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT MANAGES THEIR ASSOCIATION AT THE SAME TIME, AND THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE ASSOCIATION HASN'T BEEN ABLE EVEN TO GET A RESPONSE AS PART OF THE LARGER PUD, WE'VE ALREADY MADE OFFERS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS. ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT CAME UP WAS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER ALONG WINDERMERE. THAT LANDSCAPING BUFFER HAS DIED BECAUSE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAS NOT LIVED IT. IF YOU WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLANS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE TREES PLANTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WHICH WERE NOT BEING MAINTAINED. WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE ORIGINAL SHOPPING CENTER. IT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO BUFFER THAT AREA. SO I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT POINT. I ALSO WANTED TO DISPUTE WHAT I THINK JONES SAID ABOUT SIGNAGE. WAS IT JONES THAT SAID ABOUT SIGNAGE? RIGHT. IF I IF I SAW THE PRESENTATION, CORRECT. OKAY. THE SIGNAGE IS NOT ON WINDERMERE. THE SIGNAGE IS ON FEDERAL HIGHWAY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SIGNAGE BEING DONE. THERE IS A SMALL SIGN AT THE ENTRANCEWAY OF WINDERMERE THAT WAS DONE IN THE ORIGINAL PUD. THERE IS NO SIGNAGE BEING INSTALLED ON WINDERMERE AT ALL. I ALSO WANT THE BOARD MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT IT WAS OUR COST AND EXPENSE THAT WE CREATED THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. WE CREATED THE ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT CURRENTLY IS IN PLACE. I DO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE, BUT AS ONE OF THE THREE OWNERS, IT IS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. WE AS OWNERS OF THIS PARCEL, PAY IN EVERY MONTH MONEY TO THE ASSOCIATION TO TAKE CARE OF THE LANDSCAPING. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE AS THE OWNERS OF THIS PARCEL CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO WE HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND WE SHARED IT WITH STAFF AND STAFF, ALERTED US TO THIS ISSUE AND WE WERE EXTREMELY PROACTIVE. THE NEXT DAY THAT WE REACHED OUT TO THE ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE FALLEN A DEAF EAR ON THAT SITUATION. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER. EVEN THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION THAT IS PART OF PART TWO, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN RESPONDED AT ALL. SO WE'RE PART WE'RE THE SMALLEST PART OF A LARGE PARCEL WITH LA FITNESS. 
          EVERYBODY PAYS INTO A LOCAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT IS FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVEN'T FALLEN DEAF TO THAT. THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I THINK THAT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP. SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE ORIGINALLY IN 2017, AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATED. IT WAS DONE BY A LOCAL FIRM, THE ONES THAT DID THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THE IMPACT IS LESS. OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH NOTHING TODAY. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT LESS TRAFFIC TODAY, BUT WE HAVE TO RELY UPON THE PROFESSIONALS AS TO WHAT THEY'RE STATING. SO THERE WAS AN UPDATED TRAFFIC 
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STUDY. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS? YEAH, IT WAS WHAT WHAT WAS IT? I THINK IT'S ON THE SCREEN. 
          IT'S AUGUST 11TH, 2025. WE'RE VERY, VERY, VERY RESPECTABLE DEVELOPERS. OUR CONCERN IS THE COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY NOW FOR OVER TEN YEARS. I THINK WE PUT A GREAT PRODUCT ON THE STREET. I THINK THAT THROUGH ALL THE COVID, THROUGH ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, I THINK A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL SHOPPING CENTER, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH OUR CO-TENANT MEDICAL USE, WHICH NOW IS A CLEVELAND CLINIC WHICH NOW REPLACED SOMEBODY ELSE. AND THE THING ABOUT GARBAGE, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THIS. 
          I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT HAVING GARBAGE AND AN APARTMENT BUILDING NEXT TO YOUR COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED AS WELL. BUT THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET. THIS IS NOT A BUDDING THEIR PROPERTY AT ALL. AND STAFF AND THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. IF YOU HEARD IN THE REPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THIS GARBAGE AREA, WE ARE TAKING DOWN THE EXISTING DUMPSTERS AND BUILDING NEW DUMPSTERS TO COMPLY WITH THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT'S COMING IN. AND WE ARE OBLIGATED TO BRING IN A COMPACTOR IF THAT'S NOT THERE. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE VERY CONSCIOUS OF IT, THE POPEYE'S OPERATOR IS A PROFESSIONAL, AND THEY WOULD BE SHUT DOWN IF THEY DON'T COMPLY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WENT THROUGH AND ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS. I THINK THEY'RE ALL VALID. IN REFERENCE TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. IT MUST OCCUR THAT BUFFER HAS TO OCCUR. THE TRAFFIC LOOK, DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS AS THE REST OF THE WORLD EVOLVES. THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS PUT IN AT OUR NICOLE FOR THE INTENT TO MANAGE TRAFFIC. IT WASN'T FUNDED BY THE COUNTY. IT WASN'T FUNDED BY THE CITY. EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE FUNDS AVAILABLE. WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS KNOWING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE GREATER EXPENSE. IN REFERENCE TO THE SCHOOL BUS, WE ENDED UP PUTTING IN THE SCHOOL BUS STOP AS A REQUIREMENT OF THE MASTER PUD, AND IT WAS PUT IN A LOCATION FAR ENOUGH AWAY TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN. SO WE HAVE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE TO A LOT OF THOSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND AFTER TEN YEARS OF DOING THIS, I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO INFORM YOU OF THIS INFORMATION, THAT'S ALL. WE ASK QUESTIONS. YEAH, OKAY. I GUESS I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN THE PUD WAS SET UP, WAS IT ALWAYS A COMBO WITH THIS COMMUNITY? THE SHOPPING PLAZA? YES. AND THERE'S A RECORDED THERE'S A RECORDED DOCUMENT. SO WHEN THIS COMMUNITY WAS BUILT, IT WAS EXPECTED THAT THIS COMMERCIAL PUD WOULD GO IN AS WELL AND COMMERCIAL THINGS. AND THE PDCC WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. RIGHT, WHICH WAS A CHICKEN RESTAURANT. OKAY. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT TRAFFIC INCREASES. I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY WE WENT AND SPENT OVER HALF $1 MILLION TO PUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN. SO AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, SO YOU PAY IT. AND THEN THEY'VE NEGLECTED THESE BUSHES AND SO THEY'VE DIED. WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WHO REPLACES THAT, WHO PAYS FOR THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY WAS HIRED BY THE MAJORITY OWNERS OF EACH PARCEL? THERE'S THREE PARCELS, AND THEY HIRED A LOCAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT RUNS THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY. ALL OF THE THREE OWNERS PAY IN BASED UPON A PRO RATA AMOUNT OF COST. BUT WE'RE NOT THERE TO MANAGE HOW THEY MANAGE IT OR HOW THEY CUT THE GRASS. THEY'VE NEGLECTED IT. 
          THEY NEGLECTED PAYING THE INSURANCE OBLIGATION TO THE ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT COMPANY. 
          IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE STOP ME THERE A VESSEL THAT JUST A VESSEL. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE PAYMENT SHOULD COME FROM THAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WORKS WITH. CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MIC? I'M SORRY. CAN YOU WORK FOR THEM? SO ANY COMMENTS NEED TO BE AT THE MIC. ANYWAY, ALL I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT THAT WE HAVE MADE OFFERS TO THE ATTORNEY, TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION. THE ATTORNEY AS OF LAST WEEK SENT AN EMAIL. ROBERT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO RESPOND. THEY ARE THE ONES. AS OWNERS, AREN'T YOU ABLE TO FIRE THE 
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MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND GET ONE THAT RESPONDS? I MEAN, YOU'RE PAYING THEM, RIGHT? LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU PAY A BETTER MANAGEMENT LIKE I DON'T. SO REMEMBER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          SO REMEMBER 1560 BOONE IS THE I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE SMALLEST OWNERSHIP OF LAND. AND THE VOTE GOES BY OWNERSHIP AREAS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE IT FIRST. BUT I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO LA FITNESS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND REPLACE THEM. BUT IT ISN'T THAT EASY. BUT YES, YOU REPLACE THE MANAGEMENT. YES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT TURNED OVER. SO AND WE'VE EVEN OFFERED TO PAY THE ASSOCIATION AND DEDUCT IT FROM OUR PAYMENTS TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN WRITING. WE HAVEN'T GOT A RESPONSES. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. AND WE FIGHT EVERY SINGLE WEEK TO TRY TO GET THAT RESOLVED. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED. AND SO IS THE LA FITNESS OWNERS. THEY'RE CONCERNED. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. I'LL COME TO THE MIC. I'M GOING TO REBUTTAL WITH EVERYTHING. AFTER MAY WE SEE THE SLIDE WITH THE SIGNS LISTED. IT SHOWS A SIGN. IT STATES A SIGN WINDERMERE. SO I ASSUME IT'S ON THE BUILDING ON THE WINDERMERE SIDE. CORRECT. THE. I'M SORRY TO CLARIFY, THE WALL SIGN A WALL SIGN IS FACING NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE. THE MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE ON FEDERAL. THE WALL SIGN ON THE WINDERMERE SIDE IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE ASKING A. WE THINK THERE'S WAY TOO MANY SIGNS. OKAY. AND PARTICULARLY THAT ONE TO NOT BE THERE. AND WHERE THE MONUMENT SIGN IS ON FEDERAL, OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO BE SO FAR AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF WINDERMERE, CORRECT? YES. CORRECT. OKAY. COME TO THE I GUESS, ROBIN TARBUTTON. SO THE SIGN FACING THE THE MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S GOING TO BE ON FACING US. ONE, THIS DEVELOPMENT ALREADY HAS A SINGULAR SIGNAGE FOR ALL ITS STORE MEMBERS. SO WHY WOULD POPEYES OR ANYONE THAT'S GAINING THAT PROPERTY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A STANDALONE MONUMENT WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNAGE? FOR THE WHOLE, I THINK IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN 2017, SO THAT'S NULL AND VOID. IT'S I DON'T THINK IT'S BEFORE US. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THE PIDC I HAVE A PICTURE UP ON THE SCREEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE APPROVAL. OKAY. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IT WOULD HAVE TO MIMIC THAT IN SIZE, LIGHTING AND STATURE. CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED. CORRECT OKAY. I'M STILL LOYD NEVILLE OKAY. IT JUST APPEARS TO ME THAT THIS PARTICULAR SIGN IS AFTER THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY AND BASICALLY WOULD BRING PEOPLE INTO WINDERMERE DRIVE RATHER THAN INTO THEIR DRIVEWAY SO THAT THIS IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A SIGN THERE SHOULD BE DOWN BETWEEN IN FRONT OF LA FITNESS AND RACETRAC. CORRECT. MAKE SENSE? OKAY. DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON THE MOTION BEFORE US, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT? SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. 
          EMOTION RIGHT NOW IS TO REDUCE THE SIGNAGE. I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO MODIFY THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AS WELL. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL SHOPPING CENTER PLAZA THE WAY IT'S DONE. THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT OF IT. THIS LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS IN, I DON'T KNOW, PHOENIX OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT IN STUART. OKAY. YEAH. CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT AS CHAIR OR. NO? YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION TO AMEND THERE. YOU CAN INQUIRE, BUT I CAN. OKAY. COULD WE AMEND IT TO ALSO INCLUDE A HEDGE. BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S NO HEDGE THAT IS PLANNED TO GO UP OR THERE WAS ONE THAT DIED. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING? THAT THERE WAS A HEDGE AND IT'S DIED. AND WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT TO REPLACE IT? CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS, IF I MAY ADDRESS THAT. SO I WAS LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS OF THE RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF CAN DO IS PULL THE ORIGINAL SET OF PLANS, LOOK AT ALL THE LANDSCAPING, WALK THE SITE AND SHOW WHERE THAT LANDSCAPING IS. AND THEN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND TEST CODE 
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ENFORCEMENT TO CITE THEM FOR THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS THAT THEY HAD TO INSTALL THAT LANDSCAPING. IF NOT, THEN THEY'LL GO TO THE NEXT BOARD. THEY'LL GO TO A MAGISTRATE HEARING, WHICH AT THAT TIME THEY COULD BE ASSESSED FINES. SO WE IF THE BOARD COULD LET US WORK WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AS WELL, WE CAN DO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT LANDSCAPING GETS PUT UP BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. OKAY. AND EVEN IF IT'S OUR NICKEL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT LANDSCAPING GOES BACK IN OKAY PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THE. 
          AND YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO. SO THE EMOTION AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE. 
          I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POPEYES WITH A REDUCED NUMBER OF SIGNS AND AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT MIMICS THE REST OF THE PLAZA. CORRECT. OR MORE IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE PLAZA. MAY I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? SO. THERE IS ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES THAT ARE GOVERNED PRETTY MUCH IN THE PUD. PUD. THIS IS A NATIONAL FRANCHISE. NATIONAL FRANCHISORS GENERALLY HAVE GUIDELINES THAT ARE INCORPORATED AND UPDATED ON A CONSTANT BASIS. I DO BELIEVE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNAGE, IT'S GOING TO SOFTEN THE BUILDING. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE COLORS OF THE BUILDING ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE REST. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MODIFY A ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. TO HAVE IT BROUGHT TO SOMETHING THAT WAS THREE PROTOTYPES BEFORE ARE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO DO. WE'RE HERE TO WE'RE HERE TO COOPERATE. WE'RE HERE TO TRY TO ASSIST. BUT I THINK THAT'S A TOUGH ASK FOR A NATIONAL TO MODIFY A APPROVED STYLE THAT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CODES. SO I KNOW THAT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, LIKE SAINT LUCIE WEST, THEY HAVE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT IT MATCHES A CERTAIN COASTAL STYLE. AND THIS I BELIEVE, IS A A PROTOTYPE OF THAT THAT IS MORE IN KEEPING WITH THAT PLAZA. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO MORE MODERN, BUT I THINK THE COMMUNITY POPEYES WOULD LIKE TO GO MORE MODERN. BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY AND I'M, I DON'T LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, BUT I LIVE IN THE CITY OF STUART WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REVERT TO A MORE COASTAL STYLE BECAUSE IT IS. WE ARE THE HAPPIEST SEASIDE TOWN, LITTLE COASTAL COMMUNITY. NO, I UNDERSTAND, SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY WORDING, LET'S ALLOW STAFF TO WORK WITH THAT IN WITH THE APPLICANT OF THE POPEYES ON THEIR SUBMITTALS AS OPPOSED TO DICTATING IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER TO A SPECIFIC STYLE. SO THAT DOESN'T THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS WORKS. SO SPECIFIC STYLE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. SO WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES THE ULTIMATE APPROVAL OKAY. BUT WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT FOR THEM TO APPROVE, WE RECOMMEND THAT, AS WE ALREADY STATED, THAT IT HAS A ARCHITECTURAL APPEARANCE MORE IN LINE WITH THE WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER. YES. CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING. YES. SO JUST LIKE THE STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION, NOW WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. BUT THE COMMISSION GETS THE FINAL VOTE. EXACTLY. OKAY. I NEED A NO RIGHT TURN SIGN AT THE END OF THE DRIVE THROUGH, PLEASE. SO IT'S IT WAS A GOOD THE IDEAS THERE. BUT THE CONCERN IS IS MULTIPLE OF YOU HAVE MADE COMMENTS THAT THE U-TURNS WERE CAUSING ACCIDENTS. SO WE WOULD THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE MORE U-TURNS ON US. ONE IS THE UNFORTUNATE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCIDENTS ON WINDERMERE IF WE INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC THE WAY THEY'RE TALKING. YEAH, BECAUSE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO. BUT IF YOU FORCE THEM OUT AT LA FITNESS, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO U-TURN BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THAT LIGHT. AND IF IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THE PLAZA PAID FOR THAT LIGHT. AND SO THAT MAY BE A FEDERAL HIGHWAY, I THINK THAT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE FOR YOU GUYS TO CHANGE THAT LIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UNDERSTANDING THAT LIGHT WAS IN A NEGOTIATIONS TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE USE OF OUR ROAD, PERIOD. WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD ISSUES WITH THE TURNING LANE INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER. THERE WAS A POTHOLE PROBLEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND IT WASN'T DEALT WITH IN A TIMELY MANNER. JUST LIKE THE ACCIDENT, DEBRIS ON ON FEDERAL IS NOT DEALT WITH IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO EVERYTHING 
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HAS A DELAYED RESPONSE. TIME MANAGEMENT COMPANY AGAIN THOUGH. NO, IT'S FEDERAL HIGHWAY SO IT'S FEDERAL. SO YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S COUNTY WHICH IS NOT HERE. BUT THEN YOU'RE BRINGING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCIDENT THEN COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A TURNAROUND FOR ANYONE THAT DIDN'T MEAN TO COME IN. THERE'S THE CONCERN OKAY. OKAY. 
          AND I, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO SAY TO FOR THE COMMUNITY LIKE THIS WAS ALREADY LIKE SOME OF THIS WAS ALREADY IN THE WORKS. AND SO OUR WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT EXCEPTIONS ARE THEY ASKING FOR THAT THEY WERE NOT GIVEN APPROVAL FOR. AND THE EXCEPTIONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WERE LIKE THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DEAL WITH, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DECREASING THEIR FOOTPRINT AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO JUST I, I FEEL YOUR PAIN, BUT OKAY. WOULD WE LIKE TO VOTE PLEASE. WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND OF OR AMENDED MOTION. OH SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND OF THE AMENDED MOTION. READ THE MOTION. SO THE MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR PETERSON. AND IT WAS TO APPROVE POPEYES WITH A REDUCED NUMBER OF SIGNS, SIX AND A MODIFICATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO FIT THE PLAZA. YES, THAT WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR PETERSON, BUT MISS BROMFIELD WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE THE SECOND THE MOTION ORIGINALLY, SO SHE DID AGREE TO. SO THAT'S OKAY. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AMENDED, SHE NEEDS TO AGREE TO THE AMENDED MOTION. YOU AGREE TO THE. SO ONE OBSERVATION I HAVE. SO THE SIGN THAT IS BY THE ROAD, COULD IT BE PLACED CLOSER TO THE GAS STATION IN ORDER TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC TURN INTO THE LA FITNESS, RATHER THAN I THINK IT WON'T BE NEAR THE BUILDING THEN, BUT BUT HOW? BUT IN ORDER TO APPEASE THEM. BECAUSE IF YOU WILL NOT PREPARE TO TURN UNTIL YOU SEE THE SIGN, BY THE TIME YOU SEE THE SIGN, LIKE THEY SAID, YOU'RE FORCED TO TURN ONTO THE WINDERMERE. AND IF THAT IS THEIR ROAD, YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE LEGAL RAMIFICATION WITH THAT? I GUESS JODY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK IF STAFF CAN. JUST. SO WHEN THIS PLAZA WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AND ALONG WITH THESE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THAT ROAD IS A PRIVATE ROAD. HOWEVER, THE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY HAS ACCESS AND WAS PLATTED RIGHTS TO THAT ROAD GET ACCESS TO THE BACK IF THAT ROAD CLOSES TO CLOSE THAT ACCESS ROAD. AND THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF SERVICE ISSUES. SO IT WAS GRANTED THAT THE COMMERCIAL PLAZA CAN USE UTILIZE THAT ROAD. SO I GUESS MY OTHER CONCERN, IF YOU IF YOU MOVE THE SIGN AND I'M COMING FROM PORT SAINT LUCIE, YOU KNOW, I'M COMING NORTH AND I'M HEADING SOUTH. IF I DON'T SEE THE POPEYES SIGN TILL THE LA FITNESS NOW, I'M GOING TO DO ANOTHER U-TURN TO COME BACK INTO THE PLAZA THAT WAY. RIGHT. SO AND I THINK THAT THAT I UNDERSTAND IT BEING THE ENTRANCE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ABSOLUTELY. I LIVE RIGHT OFF OF A MAJOR ROAD AS WELL, BUT I ALSO FORCING MORE U-TURNS ON A BUSY FEDERAL HIGHWAY, I THINK IS ALSO, I THINK. BUT ISN'T THAT TURN SAFER THAT THAT TURN IT IS CLOSER TO THE GAS STATION? ISN'T THAT A OH, THERE'S NO LIGHT THERE. YEAH, YEAH. THE LIGHT IS AT WINDERMERE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. OKAY. ARE YOU APPROVING THE APPROVE THE AMENDED SECOND APPROVAL? WHATEVER IT IS AT THIS POINT, DO YOU AGREE TO THE AMENDED MOTION? THANK YOU. YES. SECOND. OKAY. YES. VICE CHAIR. 
          PETERSON. YES. CHAIR. YES. BOARD MEMBER. BROMFIELD. YES. AND BOARD MEMBER. BOGLE. YES. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA ALSO QUASI-JUDICIAL YOU SAID YES, MA'AM. OKAY. STEWART. HOLD ON. LET ME TAKE MY THING OUT AGAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR 
          [3. STUART LANDINGS II MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR LOT NO. 3 LOCATED AT 3991 SE FEDERAL HIGHWAY(RC)(QJ): ORDINANCE No. 2545-2025; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT FOR LOT NO. 3 OF THE STUART LANDINGS II COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD), ALSO BEING ASSOCIATED WITH LOT #1 AND LOT #2 OF THE STUART LANDINGS II CPUD; PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR LOT NO. 3 OF THE STUART LANDINGS II CPUD TO ACCOMMODATE A 470 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND THE EXISTING 2,845 SQUARE FOOT BURGER KING RESTAURANT AND SINGLE DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY; PROVIDING FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND MASTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 3991 S.E. FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT “A”; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
COMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. STEWART LANDINGS TWO MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR LOT NUMBER THREE, LOCATED AT 3991 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY RC, Q J ORDINANCE NUMBER 25452025, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STEWART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT FOR LOT NUMBER THREE OF THE STEWART LANDINGS. TWO COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD ALSO BEING ASSOCIATED WITH LOT NUMBER ONE AND LOT NUMBER TWO OF THE STEWART LANDINGS TO PUD, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR LOT NUMBER THREE OF THE STEWART LANDINGS, TWO PUD TO ACCOMMODATE A 470 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH CONVENIENCE 
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RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND THE EXISTING 2845 SQUARE FOOT BURGER KING RESTAURANT AND A SINGLE DRIVE FACILITY PROVIDING FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND A MASTER SITE PLAN. APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 3991 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKIE DOKIE, THERE'S NO MORE. OKAY, DO THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DISCLOSE? MET WITH STAFF? NO. OKAY. ALL THOSE GIVING TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD, I DO. YOU MAY BE SEATED AS YOU TESTIFY. PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE RECORD. CAN I PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, A STAFF MEMBER, TO PRESENT YOUR TESTIMONY, INCLUDING ANY EVIDENCE AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE CASE. THANK YOU. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODY COOGLER, THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF STEWART. TONIGHT, I'M PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE STEWART LANDINGS. ONE AND TWO, COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, A PETITION TO DEVELOP A 470 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH, FAST FOOD, CONVENIENT RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING BURGER KING WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING. NUMBER THREE FOR STEWART. NUMBER TWO Q PUD. PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2025, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. ADDITIONALLY, ONE SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION AND WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN EXPRESSING CONCERNS REGARDING THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. THE 1.27 ACRE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, APPROXIMATELY 200FT SOUTH OF SOUTHEAST MIAMI STREET. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED BY THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT. DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND WEST IS ZONED COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THE EAST IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 
          ACCORDING TO THE KPD APPROVAL AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION VIA ORDINANCE NUMBER 2384 DASH 2018 TO PROPOSE CONVENIENT RESTAURANT AS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, THE NECESSARY SITE ENGINEERING MODIFICATION EXCEEDS THE 5% APPROVED MASTER PLAN AND THEREFORE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES A MAJOR COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT PER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 11.0 1.1 B. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION. LAND USES AND ACTIVITIES PREDOMINANTLY CONNECTED WITH THE SALE, RENTAL AND DISTRIBUTION OF PRODUCTS OR PERFORMANCE OF PROFESSIONAL AND NONPROFESSIONAL SERVICES. INCLUDES RETAIL SALES, SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL AND OTHER OFFICES, SHOPPING CENTERS, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, RESTAURANTS, ENTERTAINMENT, HOTELS, MOTELS AND OTHER TEMPORARY LODGING. A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY AND INDOOR INDUSTRIAL USES IS ALLOWED. MIXED USE PROJECTS ARE ALLOWED. ALSO, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND ELECTRIC DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATIONS ARE ALLOWED. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST ARE DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL, AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS DESIGNATED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THIS JUST DEPICTS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF WHERE THAT VACANT SITE IS. AS YOU CAN SEE TO YOUR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BURGER KING, AND YOU'LL SEE IN BETWEEN THE MATTRESS FIRM AND THE BURGER KING. THAT IS THE PROPOSED SITE WHERE THE COFFEE RUSH CONVENIENT FAST FOOD WOULD BE SITUATED. THIS SHOWS AN IMAGE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE SUPERIMPOSED ON THE GOOGLE MAPS. ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2018, THE CITY COMMISSION AWARDED ORDINANCE NUMBER 22,000 I'M SORRY 20 2117 2007 AND AMENDED ORDINANCE NUMBER 2313 DASH 2015. COMBINING THE 3.616 AND 1.27 ACRE PARCELS. CREATING THE STEWART LANDINGS COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND PROVIDING A MASTER SITE PLAN TO 
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ACCOMMODATE A 2845 SQUARE FOOT BURGER KING DRIVE THRU CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT AND A 4700 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING FOR MEDICAL EXPRESS, AND THIS WAS ALL APPROVED THROUGH THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2384 DASH 2018. THE 4700 SQUARE FOOT BED EXPRESS BUILDING MEDICAL BUILDING OUTLINED IN RED, WAS NEVER CONSTRUCTED. THIS IS THE SAME LOCATION OF THE AS THE PROPOSED 470 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH. FAST FOOD CONVENIENT RESTAURANT WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT. THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 4200FT■!S, ACCORDINGO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION VIA ORDINANCE NUMBER 2384 DASH 2018. TO PROPOSE CONVENIENT RESTAURANT IS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT. DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE QUEUING. AS YOU CAN SEE SECTION LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 6.6.01.07. STANDARDS FOR DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES REQUIRES SIX QUEUING SPACES WITHIN A MINIMUM DIMENSION OF TEN FEET IN WIDTH BY 20FT IN LENGTH, AS MEASURED FROM THE ORDER BOX TO THE END OF THE QUEUING LANE IN FOUR QUEUING SPACES PROVIDED AS MEASURED FROM THE PICKUP WINDOW TO THE ORDER BOX, PROVIDING A TOTAL OF TEN QUEUING SPACES. 
          THIS APPLIES TO THE BUILDING FOUR, WHICH IS NOW THE EXISTING BURGER KING. THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A DEVIATION FOR FOUR QUEUING SPACES WITHIN EACH DRIVE THROUGH LANE, TOTALING EIGHT QUEUING SPACES AS MEASURED FROM THE ORDER WINDOW TO THE END OF THE QUEUING LANE. 
          EACH QUEUING SPACE WILL BE MEASURED TEN FEET IN WIDTH BY 20FT IN LENGTH. THIS APPLIES TO BUILDING THREE, WHERE THE PROPOSED COFFEE RUSH WOULD BE SITUATED. LOT THREE OF THE STEWART LANDINGS ONE AND TWO COMMERCIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE 57 PARKING SPACES, INCLUDING 880 PARKING SPACES FOR THE BURGER KING AND COFFEE RUSH CONVENIENT RESTAURANTS. 
          BOTH USERS WILL SHARE A DESIGNATED LOADING LOADING SPACE SITUATED NEAR THE PRESERVE AREA LOCATED BEHIND THE SITE. BICYCLE RACKS WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED ADJACENT TO COFFEE RUSH. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE INDICATES THAT THERE WILL BE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ESTABLISHED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE, PUBLIC SAFETY, STORMWATER AND TRAFFIC. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES. MARTIN COUNTY UTILITIES AND SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE CITY OF STEWART WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICE TO THE SITE. 
          THE ON SITE DRAINAGE RUNOFF WILL BE MANAGED THROUGH THE ON SITE PRESERVE RETENTION AND IS LOCATED ON THE REAR SITE BEFORE REAR SIDE BEFORE THE THE BEFORE EXISTING EXITING TO THE MASTER STORMWATER SYSTEM. THE OFF SITE DISCHARGE WILL BE DESIGNED BY THE 25 YEAR THREE DAY STORM EVENT AND THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS WILL EXCLUDE THE 100 YEAR, THREE DAY STORM REQUIREMENTS AS PER SOUTH WATER WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED TO OBTAIN THE SITE PERMITS FROM THE CITY OF STEWART AND SOUTH WATER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. ONE SECOND. THE CITY OF STEWART, TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT, HAS REVIEWED THE SUBMITTED TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY PREPARED BY MCKENZIE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, DATED JANUARY 24TH, 2025. IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE NEW PROPOSED TRIP GENERATION POTENTIALLY WILL RESULT IN A DECREASE FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AMOUNT. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REDUCED NUMBER OF DAILY TRIPS BY 71, WITH NO CHANGES TO THE AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND THE DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS BY NINE TRIPS. 
          WITH FIVE FEWER VEHICLES ENTERING AND FIVE FEWER VEHICLES EXITING THE SITE. 
          THEREFORE, THE IMPACTS OF THE OFFSITE INTERSECTIONS AND ROADWAYS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED. 
          THE NEW PROPOSED INTENSITIES WILL REDUCE TRIPS ALL THE ALL TIME PERIODS. THEREFORE, COFFEE RUSH WILL CONTINUE TO MEET THE CONDITIONS WITH THE CONCURRENCY APPROVAL. THE DRIVEWAY TRIPS WILL TRIPS DECREASE IN THE PM PEAK HOURS BY FOUR TRIPS AND TEN DAILY TRIPS. HOWEVER, THE DRIVEWAY TRIPS ARE ARE INCREASED AND THE IN THE PM. I'M SORRY IN THE AM PEAK HOURS BY 28 VISITS AS INDICATED, THE RIGHT TURN LANE EXISTS AT THE PROJECT PRIMARY DRIVEWAY OFF OF SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES EXIST ON US ONE AT MY SOUTHEAST MIAMI AVENUE. DEDICATED TURN LANES AT THE DRIVEWAY IN MIAMI AVENUE INTERSECTION ARE NOT NEEDED OR 
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RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE MIAMI AVENUE IS A LOW SPEED AND LOW VOLUME ROADWAY. THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 18 TREES, FOUR BUTTONWOODS, TWO CRAPE MYRTLES, SEVEN ALEXANDER PALMS, THREE SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS, AND TWO ROYAL PALMS. THE SHRUB PLANTINGS WILL CONSIST OF COCO PLUMS. COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED THROUGH A PAYMENT OF $264,463.50 TO THE CITY OF STEWART'S TREE FUND. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF STEWART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 6.05. 02F, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF FIVE BUILDING DESIGN TREATMENTS. THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT ELEVATIONS MEET THE FOLLOWING BUILDING DESIGN. TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS. RAISED CORNICES, PARAPETS OVER DOORS. DISPLAY WINDOWS, DECORATIVE LIGHTING FIXTURES AND PEAKED ROOF FORMS. EXTERIOR WOOD CLADDING, STUCCO SCORING AND FRONT ENTRANCE OVERHANG. THIS IS JUST SHOWING A RENDERING. COFFEE RUSH IS ORIGINALLY FROM THE THE OREGON AREA. THIS IS ONE OF THEIR ONE OF THEIR PROTOTYPES IN OREGON. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SIZE WITH SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. THIS PETITION CONFORMS TO THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN SECTION 11.01 .09 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, FLORIDA STATUTES, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY OF STUART. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF IS REQUESTING TO REDEVELOP. I'M SORRY, NOT THE REDEVELOPMENT. THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY TO FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO APPROVE THE COFFEE RUSH AS A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE APPLICANT STAFF IS HERE AVAILABLE. THE PETITIONER MAY NOW GIVE TESTIMONY AND CALL ANY WITNESSES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD. I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CROWD HERE. I THINK IT'S GOOD. SO MY NAME IS RON YOST AND I'M THE OWNER OF COFFEE RUSH. MY WIFE AND I OWN COFFEE RUSH, AND ACTUALLY OUR DAUGHTER IS NOW INVOLVED IN THE BUSINESS. WE OPENED OUR FIRST STORE IN 1992. BACK THEN, THERE WAS FIVE STARBUCKS IN THE CITY OF PORTLAND. THERE WAS ZERO STARBUCKS IN FLORIDA. AND MOST OF MY FRIENDS SAID TO ME, RON, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR MONEY. THAT COFFEE THING IS A FAD. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AROUND MUCH LONGER. SO WE GOT LUCKY, WE GOT CAUGHT IN THE UPDRAFT. AND AND SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE KIOSKS. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN 400FT■!S. 
          THEY'VE ALL HAD TWO DRIVE THROUGH LANES. AND WE'VE DECIDED TO BRING OUR BUSINESS DOWN HERE TO SOUTH FLORIDA. WE'RE NOT A FRANCHISE, IT'S IT'S A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS IN OREGON. AND OUR DAUGHTER LIVES HERE. WE'VE GOT TWO OF OUR MANAGERS FROM THE NORTHWEST THAT HAVE MOVED DOWN HERE. AND AND WE PLAN TO BE A LOCALLY OWNED, YOU KNOW, DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE RETAILER IN SOUTH FLORIDA. HERE WE'VE GOT I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE AREA, PORT SAINT LUCIE AND ANOTHER ONE HERE IN IN STUART. 
          AND SO WE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'VE BEEN DOING COFFEE FOR 33 YEARS. WE SERVE AN INCREDIBLE CUP OF COFFEE. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE SERVE AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE. AND I'M NOT A I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. WE'VE GOT ENGINEERS. 
          WE HAVE DEVELOPERS HERE TO SUPPORT US. I'M JUST A COFFEE OPERATOR. AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO BRING TO STUART WOULD BE A REAL ADDITION, A NEAT ADDITION TO THE. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IN OREGON, THERE ARE LITERALLY JUST IN THE SUBURBS AND THE CITIES OF PORTLAND, IN THE SUBURBS, THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THESE DRIVE THROUGH COFFEE KIOSKS. 
          THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE 80% OF AMERICANS DRINK COFFEE. AND IF YOU'RE A COFFEE DRINKER, HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU ARE. YOU DRINK IT EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT LIKE BURGERS OR CHICKEN SANDWICHES. WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF SIGNAGE, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NORTHWEST AND WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN HERE IS PEOPLE, THEY THEY DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO GET COFFEE ON THEIR WAY TO WHEREVER, AND THEY FIND THEIR PLACE. THEY WANT TO GO. AND THEY GO THERE EVERY DAY. AND IN MOST CASES, WE WE KNOW THEM. WE SEE THEM COMING. WE KNOW WHAT THEY DRINK. WE HAVE THEIR DRINK READY FOR THEM WHEN THEY GET TO THE WINDOW. WE TALKED ABOUT QUEUING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT QUEUING AND I'LL JUST MAKE THIS COMMENT. WE DON'T. 
          THE DIGITAL MENU SEE RIGHT THERE IS A IS SIMPLY A MENU. IT'S NOT AN ORDER BOX. YOU KNOW WE HAVE AN APP. YOU COULD GO TO THE APPLE STORE AND DOWNLOAD OUR APP. WE PROMOTE ORDER AHEAD. 
          THE WINDOW ACTUALLY BECOMES REALLY MORE OF A PICKUP WINDOW BECAUSE BETWEEN ORDER AHEAD AND 
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AND WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL LINE BUSTERS. YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE GO OUT INTO THE LINE WITH A HANDHELD DEVICE AND TAKE ORDERS AND TAKE PAYMENTS. SO BY THE TIME PEOPLE GET TO THE WINDOW, IT'S IT'S JUST A PICKUP WINDOW. SO WE DON'T NEED AN ORDER BOX. WE LIKE THE PERSONALIZATION THAT COMES WITH NOT HAVING AN ORDER BOX. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT OUR CONCEPT. AND I THINK THAT THE CITY OF STUART WILL BE TOO ONCE YOU SEE US IN ACTION. SO I'LL LET. MY YEAH. MY I DON'T KNOW IF JEFF JEFF JEFF IS FROM HE'S ONE OF THE HE'S THE ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS AT THE SHOPPING CENTER. HERE I'LL BE BRIEF. MY NAME IS JEFF WILLIAMS. I'M THE HEAD OF DEVELOPMENT FOR CONOVER SOUTH. WE OWN THE SHOPPING CENTER. WE OWN SEVERAL OTHER CENTERS IN THE TREASURE COAST AREA. I PERSONALLY LIVE HERE LOCALLY IN PALM CITY. OUR OFFICES ARE IN DEERFIELD BEACH. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SINCE 1957. WE'RE FULLY INTEGRATED, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T OUTSOURCE ANY OF OUR WORK. WE'RE LONG TERM HOLDERS, SO WE ARE DEVELOPER, LANDLORD, OPERATOR, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, LEGAL, EVERYTHING IN HOUSE. SO AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THERE WAS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDING ON THIS SITE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK THE OLD ORIGINALLY WAS APPROVED IN 2018. IF I'M IF I'M CORRECT. SO THAT PARCEL HAS BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. WE'VE TURNED DOWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT TENANTS IN THAT PARCEL AFTER WE ADDED THE BURGER KING, BECAUSE WE NEEDED THE RIGHT FIT. WE LOVE THIS CONCEPT. I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS CONCEPT AROUND THE STATE, AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          THEY'VE COME AND GONE, THEY'VE NAILED THIS CONCEPT. SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH RON IN, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO THE FACT THAT DON'T LET THE SMALL SIZE FOOL YOU. THIS IS A PREMIUM PRODUCT THAT THEY PROVIDE. IT'S A PREMIUM GUEST SERVICE. IT'S NOT LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER COFFEE COFFEE USERS THAT WE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN ARE REALLY IN FLORIDA FOR THAT MATTER. SO WE VETTED THEM OUT PRETTY HEAVILY. WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT, AND WE'D JUST LIKE TO NOT ONLY LEND OUR SUPPORT TO IT, BUT IT'S A TENANT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE. AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, PARTICULARLY FOR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS HERE, EXACTLY WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR. SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT WAS ALREADY SAID. THIS IS AN APPROVED USE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY ZONED. THE ZONING FOR FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL. IT ALLOWS THIS AS APPROVED USE. IT'S ALSO APPROVED USE IN THE CUSTOMIZED PUD. IT'S A REDUCTION IN THE DENSITY OF 90% COMPARED TO THE LAST BUILDING. AND AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE SOME HIGHER VOLUME FOOD USE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, IT'S ALSO REDUCTION IN THE TRAFFIC. AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR METHODOLOGIES WITH THE TRAFFIC REPORTS THAT ARE STANDARDIZED BY THE STATE THAT ARE ACCEPTED. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO ADD, AS FAR AS THE ARCHITECTURAL GOES WITHIN THIS PUD, IT EXISTS IN SOME OTHER PUDS. BUT WITHIN THIS PUD THERE IS NO UNIFYING CODE THAT REQUIRES EVERY BUILDING TO LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME OR EVEN SIMILAR. IF YOU NOTICE, THE BURGER KING IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ALDI AND THE ALDI IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CENTER RETAIL. IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET OR NEXT TO US, OBVIOUSLY THE WALMART IS WHAT IT IS, BUT ALL THE CAR DEALERSHIPS HAVE EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELEVATION. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WALLACE HAS GOING ON ON THE MARKET, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. THIS IS A PURE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THE ACCESS IS ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT. THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONUMENT SIGNAGE. THE QUEUING PROCESS THAT THEY SET UP IS FANTASTIC. SO FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE SITE PLAN AND THEN THE DEVIATION REQUIRED FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH. AND IN OUR INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE REALLY CLEAR. IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS A DEVIATION AS THE TWO DRIVE THROUGH IS SILENT IN THE STUART CODE. SO WE KIND OF HAD TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT IS A MODEL THAT HAS COME AND GONE. VERY FEW MUNICIPALITIES ADDRESS THAT. 
          NOW THEY'RE MORE ADDRESSING THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM OF DRIVE THRUS, WHICH IS THE CHICK FIL A, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE CREATING A VOLUME AT A LEVEL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT ALWAYS SUSTAINABLE. 
          SO THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT. THE ACCESS IS CONTROLLED. IF YOU READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, IT'S EXTREMELY DETAILED. THEY HIT ACCEPTABILITY AND RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BY STAFF ON EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY. THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED TO DO, FROM LANDSCAPING UPDATES TO TRAFFIC STUDIES TO THE LIGHT STUDIES TO VERIFY THE LIGHT SPILL. AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE WATER RETENTION SYSTEM IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS DO KNOW OR DON'T DO. I DID THIS ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT MYSELF. ALL THOSE RETENTION PONDS IN THE BACK ARE ACTUALLY CERTIFIED LITTLE PRESERVE AREAS. SO IT'S I KIND OF NERD OUT ON THIS STUFF. WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THERE. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ANIMALS IN THERE. SO IT'S A IT'S A BEAUTIFULLY RUN DEVELOPMENT. IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN BY THIS PORTION. OUR CENTER IS FROM THE IS FROM THE BURGER KING ALL THE WAY TO THE ALDI. WE'VE NEVER SEEN A SINGLE MAINTENANCE ISSUE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE EVEN WENT AHEAD IN THE FUTURE OR IN THE PAST. 
          I'M SORRY. WHEN THE MULTIFAMILY WAS COMING ALONG, WE WIDENED THAT ROAD. WE WIDENED SOME OF 
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THE TURN ANGLES INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER TO MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE FOR EVERYBODY. AND I THINK THE WAY THAT THE SITE IS DESIGNED AS WELL, WITH THE MASTER PLANNED ACCESS ALONG US ONE, THE TRAFFIC DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF INTERNALIZING IT WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SET DRIVE THRUS IN THE WAY THAT YOU CAN GET DIRECTLY FROM THE ALDI ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE BURGER KING AND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BACK WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE THE CENTER. SO WE TOOK A IN, RON WILL ATTEST. WE TOOK A REALLY HARD LOOK AND A LONG TIME WORKING THROUGH THIS SITE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOUBLE LOADING DRIVE THROUGH WORKED. YOU KNOW, RON TALKED TO US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR SPEED OF SERVICE. IT'S NOT MOVING THROUGH CARS FASTER. IT'S GETTING THE CUSTOMERS THEIR CUPS OF COFFEE FASTER. SO IT'S A REALLY EFFICIENT DESIGN. AND UNLIKE A LOT OF OTHER USERS WHO HAVE FAILED IN THAT, THEY'VE MASTERED IT SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE 1993. SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. WE THINK THE ARCHITECTURE LOOKS GREAT. 
          THERE'S NOT A TON THAT YOU CAN DO WITH A 400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. WE THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT. WE WE LIKE THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTRAST. IT'S VERY EASY TO DO THOSE BUILDINGS AS PREFABRICATED OR AS JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO MIAMI, YOU'VE SEEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF STARBUCKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DONE IN IN STORAGE CONTAINERS THAT ARE PICK UP ONLY. WE THINK THIS STUFF LOOKS GREAT. IT'S FANTASTIC. SO WE FULLY SUPPORT IT. AND AGAIN, FROM THE LANDLORD AND THE OWNER'S STANDPOINT, WE HOPE YOU RECOMMEND WE WE HOPE YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THAT SITE. PLAN MODIFICATION THE ELEVATIONS AND OF THE VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE DO IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OKAY. THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER. SO JODY, TELL US, I THOUGHT WHEN WE HAD SPOKEN THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIGNAGE BEING TOO LARGE AGAIN. SO WHEN THIS PLAZA WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, AFTER GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT IT, THIS SIGNAGE MEETS THE INTENT OF THE PLAZA. 
          IT DOES NOT. IT'S NOT AN OVERSIZE PLAZA OF SIGNAGE. OH, I THOUGHT THIS COFFEE SIGN THAT'S GOING DOWN THE FRONT OR SOMETHING IS LARGER THAN IF I TOOK IT. AFTER WE HAD SPOKE, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT AND THEIR OVERALL SIGNAGE PLAN HAS A A AS A SIZE LIMITS AND THIS MEETS THIS IS UNDER THAT THRESHOLD. OKAY. AND I KNOW YOU AND I HAD TALKED THAT THEY WERE ALLOWING OR THEY WERE ASKING FOR A 70% IMPERVIOUS AND THAT THE CODE IS 65%. BUT THEN YOU SAID THAT WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED, THEY ACTUALLY HAD GOTTEN THE APPROVAL FOR THE 70%. 
          BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LIKE BURGER KING AND THE OTHER LIKE, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE IT'S A HOUSE OF CARDS. IF WE KEEP EACH PLAZA GOES ANOTHER 510% MORE IMPERVIOUS, THEN NEXT THING WE KNOW, WE'VE GOT MORE WATER RUNOFF. AND AS THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A HUGE ISSUE IN FLORIDA, DO DO WE KNOW IF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON AS PART OF THIS PLAZA ARE ALSO OVER THE 65%? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE SITE IN 2018, THIS SITE WAS EXTENDED TO ALLOW THE 1.27 ACRES IT WAS ORIGINALLY AT AT THREE, LITTLE THREE AND CHANGE. AND THEN THEY ADDED TO THIS COMMERCIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE OVERALL ACREAGE TO THE 4.43, I DO BELIEVE, AND I APOLOGIZE. IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE ACTUAL ACCURATE NUMBERS TO ALLOW THIS 1.27 SITE. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND YOUR PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS REQUIREMENTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU TAKE THE SITE ITSELF, THEY WOULD BE OVER THAT. THEY WOULD BE RIGHT AT THAT 70%. IF YOU TAKE THE OVERALL SITE AND ALL THE OPEN, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PRESERVES AND THE MITIGATION THEY HAVE DONE BY ADDING THE DIFFERENT STORMWATER CONNECTIONS, THEY THEY ARE BELOW THAT 70%. IT JUST WITH THE PARTICULAR SITE, IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S AT 70%, BUT IT IS OVERALL MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. DOES ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE THE HEIGHT COMPARISON OF THIS COMPARED TO THE BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE? BY CHANCE ANYBODY. IT'S HARD TO I MEAN IT'S SUCH A SMALL BUILDING. IT'S IT'S LIKE THE ELEVATIONS LIKE MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SCALE. IT'S HARD TO GET A FEEL FOR IT COMPARED TO WHAT'S THERE. SO THE HEIGHT IS 20. SO FROM THE TOP OF WHERE THE COFFEE RUSH ON THE SIDE IT SAYS SIDE ELEVATION. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT ROW IT'S 20FT. AND THEN HOW BIG? I MEAN LIKE IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON THAT PLAZA, THE TOP OF THAT BURGER KING IS PROBABLY ON THE OTHER TOWER WHERE THEIR SIGN IS, IS. THE HIGHEST ONE IN THE BURGER KING 
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BUILDING, WHERE THEIR SIGN TOWER IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO. IT IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 26 AND 32FT. THAT'S TYPICALLY KIND OF AVERAGE FOR FOR THAT TYPE OF USER. AND THEN TYPICALLY ON THE ON THE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING NEXT TO IT, THEY TYPICALLY PUT THE ROOFLINE AT ABOUT 28FT. SO DEPENDING ON THE PARAPET HEIGHT WHICH MAY BE SIX SIX FEET, THAT THAT ROOFLINE IS PROBABLY 28FT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PARAPET HEIGHT ON THAT MATTRESS FIRM BUILDING. SO CERTAINLY WON'T BE YOU KNOW, IT WILL LOOK MUCH SMALLER FROM THE REAR LOADING ROAD THAN THE FRONT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THAT ANGLED ROOFLINE WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR SUPPORT POLE THAT'S THEY'RE ATTACHING THE SIGNAGE TO IT. BUT YOU KNOW, OVERALL SCALE, IT'S ONLY A 400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. SO BUT FROM THE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OVERALL VIEW, IT'LL PROBABLY LOOK KIND OF RIGHT IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A COLOR SCHEME FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE YET? BY CHANCE I THINK THE ELEVATIONS ARE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THIS THIS IS THE IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A GRAY BRONZE. BRONZE ANODIZED GRAY. I THINK ONE COMMENT TO MAKE BECAUSE I, I'M, I APPLAUD JODY BECAUSE SHE GRABBED SOME PHOTOS OF SOME OF OUR STORES IN THE NORTHWEST, WHICH IS GREAT. SHE PREPARED FOR THIS MEETING VERY WELL. WE YOU NOTICE THIS IS A DIFFERENT DESIGN. YEAH. AND THE REASON IT'S DIFFERENT DESIGN IS BECAUSE. WE'VE HAD THE STORES IN THE NORTHWEST FOR 33 YEARS. IT'S A NORTHWEST DESIGN TO ME. WE WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF OUR SMALL BUILDING, IT'S A 400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS IT FITS ON A PARCEL LIKE THAT. THAT'S A 1.27 ACRE PARCEL WITH A PROBABLY TWO THIRDS OF IT'S TAKEN UP BY THE BURGER KING. SO THAT PARCEL IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PARCEL IS. CAN'T BE MORE THAN HALF AN ACRE. OUR BUILDING FITS ON THOSE LITTLE HALF ACRE PARCELS THAT WHAT WOULD THE WHAT WOULD THE DEVELOPER, THE LANDOWNER DO WITH IT? HE CAN'T DO A BURGER KING. HE CAN'T DO A CONVENIENCE STORE. HE CAN'T OIL CHANGE. 
          MAYBE SO. SO THAT 400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FITS NICELY ON THOSE VERY SMALL THIRD OF AN ACRE PARCELS THAT YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH OTHERWISE. BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL BUILDING, IF WE DON'T MAKE IT KIND OF COOL AND EYE CATCHING, YOU KNOW, UNIQUELY DESIGNED PEOPLE CAN DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND NOT EVEN NOTICE IT. IT'S, IT'S IT'S SO SO WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT LITTLE SPOT WHERE WE GOT TO HAVE A KIND OF AN INTERESTING, COOL LOOKING BUILDING TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I. IT WASN'T IT WASN'T IT'S IT'S MIAMI. YEAH. 
          NOT NOT STUART I THINK THAT BUT WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK THAT YOU KNOW AGAIN IT BUT IT MATCHES THE CONDOS AND SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THAT PLAZA THAT ARE VERY MIAMI AND MODERN TOO. IT'S JUST AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE A COASTAL SEASIDE TOWN AND WE'RE GETTING ALL THIS MIAMI ARCHITECTURE. I'M FROM OREGON. BUT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY SORT OF MIAMI. OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? IT'S NOT A QUESTION. I. I THINK IT'S A NICE CONCEPT, I LIKE IT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYBODY DOES CITY STAFF OR RESPONSE TO ANY COMMENTS RELATED? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. DOES THE PETITIONER OFFER WANT TO OFFER ANY REBUTTAL TESTIMONY? OKAY. WE ARE CLOSING THE HEARING BASED ON ALL THE EVIDENCE AND ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC, ASKING TO CITE FACTS BEING CONSIDERED, AND THEN STATE THEIR POSITION AND FORMULATE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PLAN AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IS IT AMEND THE MOTION AT THIS MOMENT OR I JUST SECOND FIRST? CAN THE SECOND AMEND THE MOTION? YOU CAN ASK HER TO AMEND THE MOTION AND STATE REASONS WHY. YEAH. OKAY. BUT IF SHE DOESN'T GET A SECOND IT WOULD DIE. AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE COULD MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. YEAH. AS MUCH AS. YEAH. WE MENTIONED THE ARCHITECTURE STYLE ISN'T BILL STEWART, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE SCALE OF THIS BUILDING, IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE STEWART ON THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK MAYBE AMEND THE MOTION IS JUST A ADJUST THE COLOR SCHEME TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS. I WOULD AGREE. SO. CAN WE RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH. YES. SO AND I'M JUST SPEAKING GENERALITIES NOT NOT SPECIFIC FOR RON BUT. EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT UNIQUE OPINION ON ARCHITECTURE IN WHAT IT SHOULD BE. SO WE RELY AS A DEVELOPER. WE RELY ON THE CODE. WE RELY ON WHAT THE CURRENT CITY STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE DECIDED, AND WHAT PREVIOUS CITY STAFF AND 
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ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE DECIDED. THERE ARE GUIDELINES THAT REQUIRE THE ELEVATIONS OF EACH COMMERCIAL BUILDING TO BE BUILT TO CERTAIN STANDARDS. THEY MENTIONED THE STANDARDS, THE NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO HIT AND THAT IT MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO IF YOU ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE SOMETHING, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A RECOMMENDATION PROCESS. WE WOULD ASK THAT RECOMMENDATION. THAT RECOMMENDATION INCLUDE THE STATEMENT THAT IT ALREADY MEETS THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE, THAT THAT IS A PREFERENCE BEING ASKED FOR, AS OPPOSED TO WE'D LIKE IT CHANGED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE CODE. THAT'S NOT NORMALLY HOW WE HANDLE IT AND THE THE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JODY, BUT I THINK YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT. THERE'S CERTAIN LIKE THEY HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN FEATURES, CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEATURES ARCHITECTURALLY, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING MORE COLOR. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OR SOMETHING. AND I ALSO SAY AGAIN, I AS WELL LIVE IN STUART, I AGREE. I MEAN, GEOGRAPHICALLY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A COASTAL TOWN, BUT WE ALSO IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A PUD AND THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL OF WALMART AND ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ACROSS THE STREET. THERE IS NO COASTAL ARCHITECTURAL HERE, THERE'S NO WAINSCOAT USE, THERE'S NO METAL ROOFS, BUT NONE OF THOSE TYPICAL IS ASKING FOR A DIFFERENCE IN COLOR. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S THE DARK GRAY AND THE DARK BROWN. CORRECT? YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. IT'S IT'S NOT ASKING FOR THE BUILDING. COMPLETELY AGREE. YEAH. YEAH. 
          IT FITS WITH THE IT FITS WITH THE MODERN MIAMI BUILDINGS BEHIND IT. IT DOES. IT'S JUST IT IS A MORE MODERN BUILDING. WE'RE JUST SAYING THE COLORS DOESN'T FIT FABRICATED STUCCO FEEL. YEAH. IT'S IT'S WHAT? WHAT IF WE SOFTEN THAT GRAY INTO A WARM EARTH TONE THAT MATCHES IN WITH THE WOOD COLOR? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE? EXACTLY. YEAH. OKAY. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. NO PROBLEM. I JUST I JUST ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADD COASTAL THEN THAT SOMETIMES CAN SPIRAL OKAY. YEAH THAT'S A REASON WITH THE PLAZA I MEAN THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. SO RON RON WILL AGREE WITH HIS ARCHITECTURAL TEAM TO TAKE THE MAIN FIELD COLOR OF THE STUCCO AND ADD A COMP AND CHANGE IT TO A COMPLEMENTARY EARTH TONE. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. COMPLEMENTARY. YEAH. SO WE MOVE TO WE MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PLAN WITH THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE THE COLORS. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? A COMPLEMENTARY EARTH TONE TO COMPLEMENTARY EARTH TONE. NOW DO WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND ALRIGHTY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENTS. OH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE NONE. SURE. I'M MARK, I'M MARK VALENTINE. I LIVE BEHIND THE PROPOSED COFFEE SHOP. I LIVE AT 3930 CALADIUM COURT. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE OPERATOR, MR. YOST, IS JUST HOURS OF OPERATION AND JUST ALSO A CONFIRMATION THAT THERE WILL BE NO SQUAWK BOX EARLY IN THE MORNING. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, OKAY? AND, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING LOOKS VERY NICE. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT YOU DISCUSSED THAT THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T AN ORDER AN ORDER BOX. NO THERE'S NO OKAY. SO. RIGHT, I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO THIS, BUT I WON'T NAME MY COMPETITORS. BUT WE HAVE SOME COMPETITORS. ONE OF THEM I WILL NAME DUTCH BROS. IF YOU'VE HEARD OF DUTCH BROS. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THEM. 
          THEY'RE A NATIONAL BRAND. THERE'S THERE'S THREE OF US THAT START IN DUTCH BROS. 
          THERE'S BLACKROCK, THERE'S COFFEE RUST. WE ALL CAME OUT OF OREGON. WE ALL STARTED IN 1992. 
          DUTCH BROS IS A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, A LITTLE BIT LIKE KELLY, YOU KNOW KELLY COFFEE. 
          THEY REALLY APPEAL TO THE YOUNGER GROUP. AND SO THEY PLAY THE LOUD MUSIC AND I DON'T IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WITH SQUAWK BOX, BUT THEY PLAY OUTDOOR LOUD MUSIC AND THEY'VE GOT THEIR HATS ON BACKWARDS AND THEIR SHADES ON, AND THEY'RE SERVING YOUNG PEOPLE AND THAT'S NOT US. WE WE, WE ARE PROBABLY THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO A STARBUCKS, OKAY? BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD CAPPUCCINOS AND GOOD MOCHAS. WE DON'T DO BLENDED ENERGY DRINKS. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE MINI VERSION OF A DRIVE THROUGH STARBUCKS. WE'VE GOT ALL THE EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE INSIDE OF A STARBUCKS. THERE'S NO SEATING, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE MINI VERSION OF A DRIVE THROUGH STARBUCKS. SO WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOUDSPEAKERS OUT PLAYING MUSIC OR OUR HOURS ARE WE'RE TYPICALLY OPEN FROM 5 A.M. TILL 8 P.M. OKAY. SO WE ARE OPEN AND WE DO MOST OF OUR BUSINESS BEFORE TEN IN THE MORNING. SO BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE THE LOUD NOISE EITHER. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER 
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COMMENTS? I HAVE NO MORE CHAIR. OKAY. OH. JOHN YOU HAVE I LIVE IN 3938 CALADIUM COURT. SO I GUESS TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MARK JUST SAID, AS FAR AS NOISE GOES, I MEAN, I'M GUESSING THE NOISE STUDY WAS DONE. I MEAN, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU OPEN IT AT 5 A.M. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, BURGER KING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COFFEE BUTTS UP, RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE TOWNHOUSES THAT WE LIVE IN, ONE OF THEM BEING MINE, THAT, THAT, THAT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE ROAD. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF NOISE STUDY WAS DONE? YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, 5 A.M. WE'RE GOING TO BE AT AN ALL, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE DOUBLE DRIVE THRUS. ALSO, IS THERE A WALK IN? I MEAN, I MEAN A WALK UP FOR COFFEE AS WELL TO. OKAY. SO SO ASIDE FROM THE DOUBLE DRIVE THRUS, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, 5 A.M. YOU KNOW, STANDING IN LINE TO GET COFFEE WITH ALL THAT NOISE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE. AND ALSO TO GOING BACK TO, YOU KNOW, LIGHT STUDY, YOU KNOW, DID THEY DO A LIGHT STUDY WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ALL THOSE HEADLIGHTS, YOU KNOW. SHINING INTO THE TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE BUTTED RIGHT UP AGAINST IT? SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WERE THOSE THINGS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MRS. NORD, RIGHT HERE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. SO IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL SEE THE LIGHT STUDY IN THERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED. SO I THINK TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GET A REQUIREMENT FOR A NOISE STUDY, IT'S FROM AN EXTERNAL NOISE GENERATOR FROM THE USER. RIGHT. THERE ARE NO EXTERNAL NOISE GENERATORS FROM THIS USER. SO WHEN YOU PULL IN ANY OF THE NOISE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT YOUR CAR, YOU HAVE CARS MAKE NOISE, SOMEBODY'S ORDERING OR GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR TALKING WITH THEIR KIDS OR THEIR CONSTRUCTION TEAM. I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S 5 TO 6:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE NOISE. SO WHEN YOU PULL THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH, WHAT RON WAS MENTIONING IS THERE IS NO COMMUNICATIONS THROUGH AN ORDER BOARD. YOU KNOW, THERE IS NONE OF THAT. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH US. YEAH. THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          YOU ORDER FOR THE APP AND YOU KNOW, YOU YOU GET UP THERE AND YOU JUST GO STRAIGHT TO THE WINDOW AND YOU PICK IT UP. SO AS FAR AS EXTERNAL NOISE GENERATORS, THERE AREN'T ANY AT THIS BUSINESS. SO THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT FOR NOISE STUDY TO BE DONE. AND I CERTAINLY I CERTAINLY DON'T SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, TO BE RUDE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LIVING IN A MULTIFAMILY AREA RIGHT NEXT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I'VE LIVED IN MANY OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH MY TIME. BUT WHEN I WOULD ALSO ADD WHEN THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WAS PUT FORWARD, ALL OF THIS ZONING IN THESE COMMERCIAL USES WERE ALREADY IN PLACE, INCLUDING THE 24 HOUR WALMART, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE. SO SURE, ADDITIONAL USERS ADD, YOU KNOW, ARE ALWAYS GOING TO ADD TO SOMETHING, BUT THIS IS ABOUT AS LOW IMPACT AS YOU CAN GET ON A COMMERCIAL USER FROM A NOISE AND A LIGHT STANDPOINT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELL, AND I'LL JUST ADD TO IT TO ALLOW YOUR CONCERNS IS WE SERVE ABOUT 300 CUSTOMERS A DAY IN THE NORTHWEST. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE SEE WHAT WE DO DOWN HERE. 
          BUT OF THE OF THE 300 CUSTOMERS A DAY, WE MIGHT HAVE 6 OR 8 OF THEM BEFORE 6 A.M. SO, I MEAN, JUST IT'S JUST MOST OF OUR VOLUME IS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF SEVEN AND TEN IS WHEN WE GET SO, SO TYPICALLY 5 A.M. WE MIGHT HAVE A CUSTOMER OR TWO. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION IS DELIVERIES. WHAT TIME DO YOU GET YOUR VENDOR DELIVERIES. YEAH. AND THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO SO TYPICALLY OUR OUR MILK AND OUR BAKERY DELIVERIES COME BEFORE WE OPEN. AND SO I MEAN THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT MAKING REALLY ANY NOISE OTHER THAN TRUCKS. THE REST OF THE DELIVERIES COME UPS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY. THERE'S NO SEMIS COMING IN HERE. WE DON'T HAVE SEMI TRUCKS. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT THAT BIG. WE DON'T DO THAT KIND OF VOLUME. SO YOU GET MILK, YOU GET BAKERY. AND AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COFFEE ROASTED IN THE NORTHWEST BY OUR, OUR ROASTER UP THERE THAT DELIVERS UPS. SO YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          CAN WE TAKE A VOTE. VICE CHAIR PETERSON. YES. BOARD MEMBER. VOGEL. YES. BOARD MEMBER. 
          BROMFIELD. YES. AND CHAIR. LORIEN. YES. WELCOME TO STEWART. THANK YOU. GUYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME VISIT YOUR CHAMBER HERE. THANK YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. DO YOU HAVE 
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