Nov 24, 2025 Regular City Commission Meeting

[ROLL CALL]

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REGULAR MEETING OF THE STEWART CITY COMMISSION FOR THE 24TH OF NOVEMBER, 2025. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR RICH HERE, VICE MAYOR COLLINS HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE.

COMMISSIONER HERE, COMMISSIONER REID HERE. AND PROVIDING THIS EVENING'S INVOCATION IS PASTOR JAMES BROSIOUS. HELLO TO YOU, SIR, OF THE STEWART ALLIANCE CHURCH. PLEASE RISE. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. LET'S PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN AGAIN. THANK YOU. JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS AREA. YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO LIVE IN. THE BEAUTY OF IT, THE CARE OF IT.

THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN THERE AND THEIR DESIRE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR US. WE PRAY FOR REAL WISDOM AND DIRECTION AND UNDERSTANDING AND INSIGHT FOR THEM. WE PRAY FOR ENCOURAGEMENT AND HEALTH AND FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE PRAY, LORD, AGAIN FOR THE WHOLE STAFF HERE OF STEWART AND ARE THANKFUL FOR THEM, AND ASK THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT IS BLESSED AND ENCOURAGEMENT TO ALL THOSE THAT COME. WE ASK GOD THAT AGAIN FOR YOUR DIRECTION ON OUR WHOLE NATION AND YOUR YOUR PEACE. WE PRAY THIS IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS. EVERYBODY SAYS AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SORRY. COMMISSIONER.

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

COMMISSIONER JOB. OH, YES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW. FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR DEPUTY CLERK, MALECKI. SHE IS OFFICIALLY ACHIEVED HER CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERKS DESIGNATION THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS. THIS IS A RESPECTED CERTIFICATION, RECOGNIZES MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE DEMONSTRATED EXTENSIVE EDUCATION, TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN LOCAL GOVERNANCE. PLEASE JOIN US IN CONGRATULATING HER ON THIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND IN HER CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF OF STEWART. THANK YOU. ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A MOVE IN TALLAHASSEE TO SLOWLY ERODE HOME RULE. IN 2023, THE STATE APPROVED THE LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT ALLOWS A DEVELOPER TO BYPASS OUR LPA REVIEW AND COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD MEET AFFORDABLE, PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRITERIA. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, TALLAHASSEE MADE ADDITIONS TO THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, WHICH FURTHER SECURED BUILDING EXCEPTIONS FOR DEVELOPERS. NOW, IN 2025, WE HAVE FOUR PROPOSED BILLS FOR THE 2026 STATE CALENDAR IN TALLAHASSEE THAT, IF PASSED, THEY WILL REMOVE ANY OVERSIGHT ON LAND AND WATER MANAGEMENT BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT. A PROPOSED BILL WILL FURTHER THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL ONLY FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. A PROPOSED BILL THAT WOULD REMOVE LOCAL AUTHORITY OF LAND AND WATER MANAGEMENT. PLEASE WRITE TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN TALLAHASSEE. TO PROTECT HOME RULE, WE NEED TO ELECT OFFICIALS THAT WILL REPRESENT US. AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTING US, WE NEED TO ELECT ONES THAT WILL. I'D LIKE TO ADD A DELIBERATION AND DISCUSSION TO THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING REGARDING THE STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD TO BE A MORE PRODUCTIVE ENTITY TO THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THAT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PAYING ATTENTION, SINCE WE HAVE OUR LAPTOPS, OUR IPADS, OR OUR PHONES OPEN DURING COMMISSION MEETINGS. THE BACKUP TO THE AGENDA THAT YOU SEE, WHICH IS ONLY USUALLY 2 OR 3 PAGES, IS SOMETIMES 70 TO HUNDREDS OF PAGES LONG. THE INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP IS IMPORTANT, AND WE NEED TO ACCESS THAT INFO DURING THE MEETING. IT'S ALSO WASTEFUL TO HAVE STAFF PRODUCE PRINT OFF OF HUNDREDS OF PAGES TIMES FIVE COMMISSIONERS. SO BEAR WITH US.

WE'RE NOT THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO YOU. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF STOREFRONTS IN DOWNTOWN STEWART, IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DRESSED UP THEIR WINDOWS FOR THE HOLIDAYS, PLEASE DO. IT GOES A LONG WAY TO ENTICE THOSE WISHING TO RENT DOWNTOWN, WHEN THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN IS AWASH WITH HOLIDAY JOY. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR COOPERATION. AND TO END, I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE IN THE CITY AND ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES

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AND I THINK THAT FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, OUR CITY WAS WELL REPRESENTED IN CHIEF G WAS THERE AND FORMER CHIEF TUMINELLI AND OTHERS, FORMER DAVID DYESS AND SO ON.

SO IT WAS A GREAT REPRESENTATION JUST TO RECOGNIZE SHERIFF CROWDER AND WHAT HE'S DONE IN MARTIN COUNTY OVER THE YEARS. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT HIS FAMILY WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TO THAT EVENT TO GIVE A SEND OFF TO SHERIFF CROWDER AND TO REMEMBER HIM IN OUR COMMUNITY. ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SHARE IS THAT THE NAACP IS SPONSORING THE MIRACLE ON 10TH STREET. THAT'S COMING UP ON DECEMBER 13TH, AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A BOX OUT THAT THE 10TH STREET REC CENTER, WHERE PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF TOYS. AND I WAS WONDERING IF I THINK WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BOX NOW OR SOMETHING TO DO WITH AN ANGEL TREE FOR THE SALVATION ARMY, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT MAYBE IF THEY COULD HAVE A BOX SOMEPLACE AT CITY HALL. ALSO, IF PEOPLE WANTED TO DROP OFF SOMETHING FOR THE MIRACLE ON 10TH STREET, WHICH IS DECEMBER 13TH AT THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER. AND THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MIRACLE ON 10TH STREET, A BIG PART OF THE PLANNING OF THAT AND WORKING WITH IT, WAS WHEN PASTOR GORE WAS WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP, AND HE'S PASSED AWAY NOW. AND SO THIS IS A GOOD YEAR TO REMEMBER, PASTOR GORE, AND TO REMEMBER ALL THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE TRY TO PARTICIPATE AND COME OUT ON THE 13TH, SEE THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES WHO BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM, OR TRY TO DONATE SOMETHING TO THE MIRACLE ON 10TH STREET. WHETHER IT'S IN THE BOX THAT THE RECREATION CENTER OR IF WE DO GET PERMISSION TO PUT A BOX HERE AT CITY HALL IF WE CAN, AND PEOPLE CAN DROP THINGS OFF, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. AND I KNOW THAT MISTER JIMMY SMITH, WHO IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WITH REGARD TO THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE RECENTLY WE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR NAMES FOR THE PERSONS TO BE ON THE HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CLERK ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THE EXACT SUNSET DATE IS, BUT THERE'S A SUNSET TIME FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

BUT I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JORDAN PINKSTON AND OTHERS IN THE CRA TO COME UP WITH A WEBSITE FOR THE EAST STEWART AREA WITH THE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORY OF EAST STEWART. THEY'VE COLLECTED SOME INFORMATION, SOME STILL NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER AND TO BE REVIEWED. THEY HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING SINCE, I THINK JULY, BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA. AND I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO WANT TO BE INVOLVED, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE, TO DO CERTAIN THINGS BASED ON THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THEM.

AND THEY HAVE A TIMELINE WITH THAT. THEY SOME OF THE MEMBERS WANTED TO GO BEYOND THAT, TO DO THINGS LIKE PROVIDE SOME INPUT ON GUY DAVIS PARK AND WHETHER IT'S LAST MINUTE OR CONTINUOUS, AS THE PROJECT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. AND THAT HISTORICAL COMMITTEE. SPECTRUM OF THEIR ROLE WAS NOT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THEY'VE ASKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. SO IF IF IT'S GOING TO COME UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. BUT THE ORDINANCE FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE IS VERY SPECIFIC, AND I KNOW THAT MISS CANDACE SAVED US, AND MISS PINKSTON HAS BEEN WORKING TO ASSEMBLE THE PICTURES AND THE DETAILS. AND THEY HAVE A DRAFT PAGE OR WEBSITE YOU MAY CALL IT, THAT WILL BE CREATED THROUGH THE LINK FOR THE PUBLIC IN THE FUTURE, BUT A LOT OF THAT STUFF STILL NEEDS TO BE LOOKED OVER BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND REVIEWED AND UPDATED AGAIN SO THAT THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY'RE FINISHED. WORK IS THERE, BUT SO IN TERMS OF THE SUNSET, I DON'T

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I THINK THAT'S THAT THAT'S ABOUT IT. I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER OR INTERIM CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR SCHEDULING OF TO WORK ON GETTING A NEW CITY MANAGER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'LL BE COMING BACK TO US WITH SOME IDEAS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO BE AFTER THE HOLIDAYS, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH IS DECEMBER THE 8TH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK THAT PROBLEM OR THAT ISSUE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR. SO I HAVE I HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS AS WELL WITH REGARD TO THAT E STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD FOR ALL OF US WHO MAY HAVE NOT BEEN THERE WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED, THE PURPOSE OF THAT BOARD WAS TO PROCURE HISTORICAL INFORMATION FOR THE GUY DAVIS PROJECT. AND I THINK THERE IS SOMEWHAT OF A LIABILITY IN HAVING IT TURN INTO SOMETHING ELSE, SORT OF LIKE A STEWART BOARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WE HAVE THE COMMISSION, WE HAVE THE CRA OR CRB, WE HAVE THE LPA. AND, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND FOR THE MOST PART, THAT BOARD DOESN'T MEET BECAUSE THEY FULFILLED THEIR PURPOSE SORT OF TO COMMISSIONER CLARK'S POINT. SO IT'S KIND OF A TEDIOUS SUBJECT BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SLIGHTING EAST STEWART IN ANY WAY. BUT THE POINT OF THAT BOARD WAS TO PROCURE HISTORICAL INFORMATION FOR THE PARK, WHICH THEY DID. BEYOND THAT, IN TERMS OF I'M ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH AS YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK, IN TERMS OF HIRING, MY GOAL IS TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF THE YEAR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IF WE'RE NOT GOING INTERNAL, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT, I'D LIKE TO GET, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO START RECEIVING APPLICATIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO IF IT'S NEXT MEETING, I DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER HOW THAT PROCESS WENT. YOU KNOW, WITH WITH LEE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. BUT I DO BELIEVE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO IRON OUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT JOB DESCRIPTION AND, AND SUCH. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPENING IN DECEMBER AS WELL, SO WE CAN GET MOVING AS NOT TO BE INTO FEBRUARY OR MARCH, YOU KNOW, APRIL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO BE OUR CITY MANAGER IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE INTERNAL, WE NEED TO HIRE AND GET MOVING SO WE CAN BE STABLE. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. JUST AS A MATTER OF GENERALLY, THAT DECEMBER MEETING IS CEREMONIAL PERFUNCTORY. YEAH. DO WE DO WE WOULD WE REALLY ADD AN ISSUE THAT COULD BE AS COMPLEX AS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION? WHEN YOU SAY PERFORM, IT'S USUALLY JUST REORG. IT'S USUALLY YEAH, CEREMONIAL. AS COMMISSIONER CLARK SAID, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE A FORMAL MEETING. YEAH. OTHERWISE. WELL WE JUST THAT'S JUST NOT HOW IT'S GONE. BUT I MEAN WE CAN IT'S NOT MORE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. WELL I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU AND WHAT WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK AND WHAT VICE MAYOR SAID IN REGARDS TO THE EAST. HISTORICAL. THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY BOARD. I SPOKE TO BETTY BRINKLEY, WHO'S ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE SHE'S MY ADVISORY PERSON ON THAT BOARD.

AND WE DISCUSSED THE FACT OF HOW MUCH MORE THAT THAT COMMITTEE COULD DO A STANDALONE, NOT CONNECTED WITH THE CITY. AND SHE SEEMED TO BE AMENABLE TO THAT. I THINK THAT THEY COULD DO MORE AS A STANDALONE IN THEIR COMMUNITY, DEALING WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DEAL

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STAFF IS ALL THERE. IT'S IT'S NOT CHEAP. IT'S IT'S RIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING POTENTIALLY DISBAND THAT GROUP OR JUST HAVE THEM ON HOLD? NO ACTUALLY TO BASICALLY AT SOME POINT IN THE NEW YEAR SUNSET THEM OKAY. BUT I THINK THAT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS I HAD OFFERED TO SIT WITH BETTY, GO OVER SOME POSSIBILITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEE TO DO, AND I WOULD BE AVAILABLE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN IF SHE WANTED SOME DIRECTION. I UNDERSTAND. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. IT'S THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, AND WHATEVER BUSINESS WE SHOULD BE DOING, WE SHOULD GET IT DONE AND NOT HAVE JUST THE CEREMONIAL. IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE CEREMONIAL, WE COULD JUST END THE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OF THE CITY TODAY. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. DECEMBER 8TH, THE LAST ONE, THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. AND LET'S MAKE IT THE MEETING OF BUSINESS FOR THE YEAR. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT, COMMISSIONER CLARK? I WAS GOING TO SAY NO, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. I SHOULD WRITE IT DOWN. SO YOU WANT ARE YOU ASKING FOR ROZ TO BE HERE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE. OH, YEAH. POTENTIAL? YEAH. OF HIRING. YOU WANT YOU WANT THAT BEYOND WHATEVER THAT NEXT STEP WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD BE ON THE NEXT FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING. CORRECT. SO I REMEMBER IS ROZ HERE? SHE'S IN THE OTHER ROOM. YEAH. SO SHE CERTAINLY WOULD NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT. AND HEY, THERE SHE IS. SHE'S LISTENING. GOOD EVENING. ROZ STRONG, HR DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD, I AM OUT OF COUNTRY ON THAT NIGHT, BUT OUR MY SECOND IN COMMAND, KAREN CHAMBERS, IS PREPARED TO ATTEND THE MEETING AND SHE CAN SPEAK ON MY BEHALF. THANK YOU. WORK OKAY? WELL, YOU'RE THERE, ROZ? YES, MA'AM. AND MR. BAGGOTT AND MR. CITY MANAGER. SO AS FAR AS I KEEP SAYING, MR. CITY MANAGER, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, NOT THAT WE'RE ALWAYS DOING THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD, BUT IN A WAY, WE ARE. WHAT IS THE MAJOR THING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE IN THE STANDARD DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT WOULD NEED TO REVAMP ADVERTISEMENT FOR CITY MANAGER MUST HAVE THESE QUALIFICATIONS, MUST DO THIS, MUST DO THAT, MUST BE ABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT WOULD TAKE SO MUCH TIME TO REVAMP THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR CITY MANAGER? BECAUSE WE HAVE A STANDARD THING WE HAVE. IT'S IN THE CHARTER AREN'T THE RESPONSIBILITIES THE CHARTER, AND I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THAT STANDARD THING AND NOT TRY TO START BOXING ANYBODY OUT AND THEN ALLOW WHATEVER SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED TO START GOING THROUGH THOSE APPLICATIONS, ULTIMATELY TO PROVIDE US RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHO TO INTERVIEW. SO THEY DON'T START TRYING TO REVAMP THINGS. LET'S GET MOVING. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION ITEM OF OF, YOU KNOW, BOXING OUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH OUR STANDARD FOR NOW WOULD BE MY OPINION. WHAT DISCUSSION SIR, BUT ANY DISCUSSIONS I'VE NOT NOT FORMALLY. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK'S ALLUDING TO. RIGHT. YEAH. SO SO BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING ON THIS GIVING OUR INPUT FOR COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS INPUT TODAY, ARE WE ASKING STAFF TO PREPARE US AN AGENDA ITEM, WHETHER IT'S FOR DISCUSSION OR FOR ACTION ON THE EIGHTH, SO THAT WHEN WE TELL THEM ON THE EIGHTH, THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD INTO JANUARY, EVEN PROBABLY DO THE ADVERTISEMENTS. SO THAT GIVES THREE WEEKS IN DECEMBER. I WOULD LIKE MY OPINION AS YOU WAIT TILL AFTER THE NEW YEAR TO ACTUALLY ADVERTISE. ADVERTISE OKAY, FOR US TO GET EVERYTHING BUTTONED UP BEFORE THEN IF POSSIBLE. OR MR. CITY MANAGER, MR. INTERIM CITY. I SEE MR. CITY MANAGER YEAH I WOULD JUST ADD I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS INDULGENCE IN THIS. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOUR FORGIVENESS BECAUSE DUE TO OUR TIGHT AGENDA, SCHEDULE THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR DECEMBER 8TH, WHICH WE DO HAVE A NORMAL AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 8TH. WE DO. I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM MYSELF ON THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. THOSE ITEMS WERE DUE TODAY TO HAVE THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 8TH PUBLISHED WEDNESDAY. YES, YES, WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY WE PLAN TO. SO THE YOU'RE ASKING ME TO

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WEDNESDAY'S PUBLISHED AGENDA. I MEAN, AT LEAST NOT. MAYBE WE'LL WORK TONIGHT ON IT AND TOMORROW AND TRY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. BUT TODAY WAS THE DEADLINE, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH THE DEADLINE A LITTLE BIT ON THE AGENDA TO GET IT PUBLISHED. AND HAVE IT PROPERLY NOTICED. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU ROSS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS, MR. VICE MAYOR? THANK YOU. SO THANKSGIVING IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE HOLIDAYS BECAUSE IT'S SO SIMPLE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING GIFTS. IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO A RELIGIOUS EVENT. IT'S A SIMPLY A GATHERING OF FRIENDS AND FOOD AND HOPEFULLY FAMILIES GETTING ALONG TOGETHER. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT COOKING. YOU SAID IT WAS AN EASY HOLIDAY. I ACTUALLY DO MOST OF THE COOKING IN MY FAMILY, SO THAT'S AN INCORRECT ASSUMPTION. COMMISSIONER JOB. JUST A JOKE.

BUT IT MAKES ME VERY AWARE OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO ENJOY SUCH A SIMPLE OPPORTUNITY. AND I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THESE PEOPLE RECENTLY. I WAS INVITED TO MEMORIAL PARK ONE SUNDAY MORNING, AND THERE'S A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING THE TIME AND MAKING THE EFFORT TO FEED THE UNHOUSED, AS WE CALL THEM NOW. I'VE ALSO BEEN I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME PEOPLE AT SAINT MARY'S, AND THEY HAD BEEN ACCOMMODATING UNHOUSED PEOPLE VERY GENEROUSLY AT THEIR FACILITY. AND AS ROB RANIERI MADE ME VERY AWARE, UNFORTUNATELY, ALL TOO QUICKLY, THAT SITUATION BECAME UNWORKABLE FOR THEM. JIM, MR. TUROWSKI AND I HAD A MEETING WITH VERY TWO INDIVIDUAL ONE, MR. ENGLUND, AND I FORGET THE OTHER WOMAN'S NAME. IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING MEETING AND THEY MADE US AWARE OF THERE ARE ALL THERE ARE SO MANY DEGREES OF ASSISTANCE WE CAN PROVIDE TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND I JUST HOPE IN THE NEW YEAR THAT WE CAN EXPLORE SOME OF THESE AS A CITY, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. THERE ARE CERTAINLY A GREAT NUMBER OF GROUPS OUT THERE WHO ARE DOING THEIR BEST, BUT IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS PROVIDING A PARKING LOT AT NIGHT THAT PEOPLE CAN ENTER AT NIGHT AND THEY HAVE TO LEAVE FAIRLY EARLY IN THE MORNING, BUT THERE ARE FACILITIES THERE. IT'S SAFE AND YOU'D BE DISAPPOINTED TO LEARN HOW MANY PEOPLE AND FAMILIES, IN FACT, ARE HAVING TO LIVE IN THEIR CARS AT THIS TIME, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE THE ENTIRE PROBLEM, BUT I WOULD HOPE WE COULD MAKE THE EFFORT AND START DOING THE BEST WE CAN. HOWEVER LITTLE IS WE CAN. AND THAT'S MY HOPE THAT WE KEEP THIS IN MIND DURING THANKSGIVING, WHEN WE ALL HAVE WAY TOO MUCH FOOD TO EAT, AND THAT AS WE LOOK TO THE NEW YEAR. AND I JUST DO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR US AND DOES SO MUCH FOR THE CITY AND DESERVEDLY GET SO MUCH PRAISE AND THANKS FROM

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

MY MOTHER WAS ON THE INTERNATIONAL CLERK'S BOARD AND PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA CLERK'S ASSOCIATION. SO CITY CLERK'S ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND I APPRECIATE THEM CONTINUING TO BE PROFESSIONALS AND PUT THAT FORWARD FOR THE CITY. ALSO, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF, THE YOU KNOW, THE CITY HALL TRANSFORMED FROM THIS MORNING. IT LOOKED ONE WAY. AND BY THE MEETING TONIGHT IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT WHAT THE PUBLIC WORKS CREW AND THE UN PEOPLE DO TO MAKE THE CITY LOOK NICE AND GO AROUND. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE TRANSFORMATION, IT'S IT'S HAPPENING ON THE MOMENT. TO THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSAL, AS I WAS COMMENTING A MOMENT AGO, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER THE BASIC PACKAGE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE. WE'LL GET THAT ON THE AGENDA. SO I'M GOING TO BE OPENING THE AGENDA BACK UP.

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THANK YOU. WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE TO PERHAPS ATTEND. WHICH IS WHY THESE THAT LAST MEETING TENDS TO BE MINIMAL, BUT SO BE IT. IS THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS, MR.

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]

ANYTIME YOU CAN MEET ME, I'LL TAKE YOU ON ON OUR GATOR. YOU CAN GO DRIVE DOWN THE CREEK AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT I DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. NEXT I HAVE WILLIAM RUDGE. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME A MOMENT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO READ THIS MICROSCOPIC PRINT. I LOST MY NOTES. IS IT MICHAEL? I THINK SO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS THAT BETTER? OKAY, OKAY. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS COMMISSION ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THAT THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS REGARDING STEWARD, CITY OFFICIALS AND THEIR CONDUCT. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN NOTIFIED INDIVIDUALLY, PERSONALLY, BY EMAIL AND COLLECTIVELY IN THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS. THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE MAKING THESE ALLEGATIONS, AND YET YOU REFUSE TO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY, ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, LOOK INTO THEM OR ANYTHING ELSE. WHICH MAKES ME VERY CURIOUS. WHAT EXACTLY IS IT YOU'RE TRYING TO HIDE, AND OR WHOM EXACTLY IS IT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN INVESTIGATING OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING THESE VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS? YOU JUST WANT TO USE THE CITY MANAGER AS A SCAPEGOAT, THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS AND SAY, LOOK, WE

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OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OVER IT NOW, BUT THE FIRST IS JUST FOUR PAGES OF EMAIL THREAD OF MR. BOGLIO AND I AND OUR FRIEND DAVE DYESS. IN 2020, I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON, AND IT WAS THE SECOND PAGE WILL TELL YOU WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THE CITY OF STUART, CODE ENFORCEMENT, RUDGE PROPERTY ABATEMENT COSTS LISTS A DIFFERENT CASE THAN WAS USED BY THE CITY IN CITY V RUDGE, SO IT WAS LIKE A WHOLE NEW THING.

SEP. IT WAS A PROJECT. THE CITY OF STUART'S BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER 15, ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2009, WAS A PROJECT TO APPROPRIATE $100,000 TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO CLEAN UP ABANDONED CONSTRUCTION SITES. NOW THEY PUT OUR PROPERTY IN THERE. AND SINCE 2020, I'VE BEEN ASKING, WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH MR. BOGLIOLI. YOU CAN SEE THAT I MET WITH HIM. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IF HE'S GOING TO BE THE MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

AND IF HE'S NOT THE MANAGER, THE NEW MANAGER NEEDS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS THAT HOW COME THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT CASE NUMBERS? WHY WERE WE INCLUDED WITH A AND WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR MR. BOGLIOLI? TO BE HONEST, HE TOLD ME, OH, THAT WAS FOR LOCK CLEARING AND STUFF. NO, THIS WAS NOT LOCK CLEARING. IT SAID IT WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. IT'S JUST MORE OF THE SHENANIGANS SO THAT I ONLY BRING IT UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE HE'S GOING TO BE THE MANAGER. IF HE IS, I WANT AN ANSWER. IF HE'S NOT, I WANT AN ANSWER FROM THE NEXT MANAGER. I THINK IT'S FAIR. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, I LOVE THIS TOWN. I LOVE MY COUNTY. AND I WILL SAY WE, THESE TWO CHIEF OF POLICE, WE WE. IT MUST BE A PREREQUISITE TO BE A GOOD LOOKING MAN, TO BE A CHIEF. BECAUSE LOOK AT WHAT WE GOT. OH, HE'S GONE, HE'S GONE, HE'S GONE ANYWAY. THANK YOU. CANDICE CALLAHAN. THIS IS NON-AGENDA, I PROMISE, OKAY, I PROMISE, I

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[APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR]

[2. RENEWAL AND AMENDMENT TO THE "FLAGLER CENTER" LEASE WITH STUART MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION, INC. (RC): RESOLUTION No. 101-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA TO AUTHORIZE THE RENEWAL AND EXECUTION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND STUART MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR THE "FLAGLER CENTER" LOCATED AT 201 SW FLAGLER AVENUE, STUART; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES..]

OR MAYBE IT WAS SEPTEMBER MEETING THAT YOU REQUESTED THAT WE BRING BACK ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN STUART MAIN STREET AND THE CITY, BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE WERE TRYING TO THEY HAD BROUGHT FORTH THE REQUEST TO RENEW THE LEASE FOR THE FOR THE SECOND TIME, FOR THE SECOND RENEWAL. AND JUST TO RECAP, THE LEASE AGREEMENT HAD AN INITIAL THREE YEAR TERM. THERE WERE IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THERE WERE TWO THREE YEAR TERM RENEWAL THAT COULD BE. IN ADDITION, THEY REQUESTED TO EXECUTE THE SECOND THREE YEAR TERM, WHICH WOULD BE THE YEAR SIX THROUGH NINE. AND AS A RESULT, WHEN I BROUGHT IT FOR YOU BEFORE, YOU WANTED TO BRING BACK ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS, AND IT APPEARED THAT THE GOAL WAS TO TRY AND GET ALL, ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND STUART MAIN STREET TO RENEW AT THE SAME TIME OF THE YEAR, SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DO THIS AGREEMENT THIS MONTH AND THIS AGREEMENT ANOTHER MONTH. AND SO

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SO OTHER THAN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THE OTHER THREE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND MAIN STREET RENEW ON OR ABOUT SEPTEMBER OCTOBER ALREADY. SO THE ONLY ONE THAT IS KIND OF THE ODDBALL OUT THE ANOMALY IS THIS LEASE AGREEMENT, WHICH RENEWS JANUARY 1ST. SO WHAT I'VE PROPOSED IS THAT WE ADD NINE MONTHS TO THIS FINAL THREE YEAR RENEWAL TERM. SO IT'LL BE THREE YEARS AND NINE MONTHS, WHICH WILL GET US TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN IT WILL RENEW WITH THE OTHER THREE AGREEMENTS. HOWEVER, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LEASE AGREEMENT. OKAY, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THIS WILL BE NINE, NINE, NINE YEARS AND NINE MONTHS. AND AS YOU RECALL, WHAT WE DID ON THE FLAGLER MUSEUM IS IF WE HAVE TO LEASE ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF STUART FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS, WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM AND HAVE THE POPULATION VOTE ON IT. SO AT THIS NEXT RENEWAL FOR THE FLAGLER CENTER WITH STUART MAIN STREET, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE BEYOND THAT, IT'LL HAVE TO GO OUT ON A REFERENDUM. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT NOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT FOR THE FUTURE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'VE ATTACHED ALL FOUR AGREEMENTS TO THE AGENDA, BUT THE ONLY ONE THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE TO IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM ALL CONSISTENTLY RENEW IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER OF EVERY YEAR, IS ADDING NINE MONTHS TO THIS LAST THREE YEAR TERM ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT? DO YOU HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THEM ARE LANDING ON THE SAME AGENDA, NOT JUST AROUND THE SAME TIME, BUT ALL ON ONE AGENDA? WAS THE GOAL? WELL THEY WERE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO RENEW IN. THEY WOULD ALL RENEW AT THE THEY'RE IN LINE WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR. SO THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR IS OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO IF ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS WOULD BE RENEWING IN SEPTEMBER, OKAY, IN OCTOBER. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU ON THE RENEWALS. NOW THERE'S TWO AGREEMENTS THAT ONLY RENEW EVERY THREE YEARS YEAR VERSUS EVERY THREE YEARS. RIGHT. BUT BUT BY DOING IT THAT WAY WHEN THEY COME UP THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE SAME ARE ALL GOING TO BE AT THE SAME TIME BY ALSO THE THE MARKET ON MAIN STREET AND THE LEASE AGREEMENT BY ADDING THE THE NINE MONTHS THEY WILL RENEW EVERY THREE YEARS ON THE SAME YEAR. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO RENEW EVERY YEAR AT THAT TIME ANYWAY.

AND I'M SURE I'M SURE THAT CAN GET CARRIED FORWARD IS IF THAT'S THE INTENT, WE CAN MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS ON THE SAME AGENDA. I WOULD IMAGINE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS IF THEY RENEW AT THE SAME TIME, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF COMING BEFORE YOU THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. CORRECT? OKAY. SO I WOULD SAY JUST LIKE NOW, COMMISSIONER, WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE ALL THE AGREEMENTS, WHETHER THEY WERE RENEWING THAT YEAR OR NOT. SO YOU'D HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM AND WE'D GET THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE, TWO, ONE COUNTDOWN TO THE OBVIOUSLY THE ONES THAT RENEW EVERY YEAR WOULD BE TOGETHER ON AN AGENDA. AND THEN EVERY, EVERY FEW YEARS, ALL FOUR WOULD LAND ON ONE. I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL LAND TOGETHER, RESPECTIVELY, ON ONE AGENDA. SO EVERY THREE YEARS THEY WILL PERFECT. AND THEN EVERY YEAR IN BETWEEN WOULD BE THE TWO. YEP.

THANK YOU. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. BAGGETT? WELL IS THERE A MOTION THEN. YEAH.

JUST NO. FORGIVE ME AS YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY ON THIS BOARD. I ASSUME YOU HAVE NO RESERVATIONS WHATSOEVER. AND EXTENDING THESE AGREEMENTS IN TIME AND I HAVE NONE. OKAY.

I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD EITHER. AND IF SHE'S BACK THERE IN THE BACK, SHE CAN. IT'S IT'S UP TO US TO PROVIDE TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH REGARD TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 101 2025 MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, MADAM CLERK? I HAVE NOT NONE. NONE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS? NOPE. VERY AGREEABLE. THIS EVENING I'LL FIND SOMETHING TO ARGUE ABOUT. ROLL CALL PLEASE. IT'S NOT A CHALLENGE, VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, MAYOR.

RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. SELBY. YES. MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER THREE. MR. BAGGOTT. RESOLUTION

[3. F.I.N.D. WATERWAY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT FOR COURTESY DOCK (RC): RESOLUTION No. 105-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF STUART TO ACСЕРT A FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT WATERWAY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT FOR A COURTESY DOCK AND WAVE ATTENUATOR; AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF ANY GRANT APPLICATION, IF NECESSARY, AND THE EXECUTION OF ANY GRANT AGREEMENT, IF AWARDED; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING ANY MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT TO FACILITATE THE PROGRAM AS APPROPRIATE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATЕ, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

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RIGHT. LIKE IF I'M LOOKING ON THE THE NORTH SIDE OF IT. HOW THEY HAVE FOUR SLIPS. IF YOU HAD A BIG BOAT AND TOOK UP TWO THAT THAT'S NOT LIKE A CODE ENFORCEMENT THING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YOU JUST HAVE A LARGER VESSEL THERE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT ON SEA-DOOS AND HAVE THEM GO OUT THERE AND BUT NO, I FIGURED IT WOULD. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR REVENUE. SO BUT NO, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'D BE A, A PARKING TICKET ISSUED FOR TAKING UP TWO SLIPS. IT WOULD PROBABLY RESULT IN WHAT FIND REFERRED TO AS BOAT RAGE INSTEAD OF ROAD RAGE. SO. I'M SURE IF IT'S A PROBLEM, SOME PEOPLE WILL LET US KNOW ABOUT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THAT WAS IT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. REED. YES, MAYOR.

RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES. MOTION PASSES. NO DISCUSSION.

DELIBERATION. AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'LL BE SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SEEING NO

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