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COULD BE QUITE A WHILE. I'M CALLING THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE STEWART CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER FOR THE 8TH OF DECEMBER, 2025. THIS IS A LARGE CROWD FOR THIS MEETING IN DECEMBER, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO BE HERE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR RICH HERE, VICE MAYOR COLLINS HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE. COMMISSIONER HERE, COMMISSIONER REID HERE. AND PROVIDING INVOCATION THIS AFTERNOON. FIRST IS PASTOR JAMES HART FOR THE STEWART ALLIANCE CHURCH. WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? AND WILL YOU ALSO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTERWARDS? GOOD TO BE HERE. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

LET'S PRAY. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE CELEBRATION OF THE BIRTH OF CHRIST. LORD, I THANK YOU THAT WAY. BACK IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, IN THE BOOK OF MICAH, HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE HIS BIRTH, IT WAS PROPHESIED THAT HE WOULD BE BORN IN BETHLEHEM, BETHLEHEM OF JUDEA, AND HE WAS. AND SO, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT PROPHECY THAT WAS FULFILLED. AND THAT WAS MICAH FIVE, MICAH SIX.

THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I BELIEVE IS PERTINENT FOR US TODAY. IT SAYS, THE VERSE SAYS THAT HE HAS TOLD YOU, GOD HAS TOLD YOU, OH, MAN, WHAT IS GOOD? AND WHAT DOES THE LORD REQUIRE OF YOU BUT TO DO JUSTICE, TO LOVE KINDNESS, AND TO WALK HUMBLY WITH YOUR GOD? AND LORD? YOU LAID UPON MY HEART THAT VERSE TODAY TO TO PRAY HERE, TO PRAY OVER OUR LEADERS THAT YOU HAVE APPOINTED AND PLACED IN LEADERSHIP OVER US HERE IN IN STEWART. BUT FOR ALL OF US AS CITIZENS, AS RESIDENTS, GOD, THAT WE TOO WOULD FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION. AND SO, LORD, I PRAY ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN US WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU REQUIRE TO ACT JUSTLY, TO LOVE KINDNESS, AND TO WALK HUMBLY WITH YOU. SO, LORD, I PRAY, AS THIS COMMISSION MEETS TODAY, GRANT THESE SERVANTS, LORD WISDOM, TO DO WHAT IS JUST.

I PRAY THAT THEIR HEARTS WOULD BE KIND TOWARD ALL RESIDENTS, AND HUMILITY WOULD BE THEIRS AS THEY STEWARD THE AUTHORITY ENTRUSTED TO THEM FOR THE GOOD OF THIS CITY AND THE RESIDENTS THEREIN. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR PRESENCE WITH US TODAY. I PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HALLELUJAH! GOOD JOB. WELL, NORMALLY. THAT'S GREAT, THOUGH. SO GOOD. WELL, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY CUTER ARTS MOMENT TO INTRODUCE FOR THE LAST TIME AS MAYOR THAN GERTRUDE WALDEN AND WALDEN AND ALL THESE CUTE KIDS. SO COME ON UP, KIDS. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, NEXT MONTH WILL BE 15 YEARS OLD.

AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER. FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS, I'VE WORKED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 42 YEARS, AND GUESS WHAT I'VE DONE? AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SHARE OUR ART MOMENT WITH YOU TODAY. WE DELIGHT IN DOING THIS. OUR CHILDREN HAVE THE PRIVILEGE. THESE ARE KIDS. VPK IS VOLUNTARY FREE KINDERGARTEN.

THE STATE PAYS FOR THREE HOURS, AND VIRTUAL WALDEN CHILD CARE CENTER IS ONE OF SEVEN ON THE TREASURE COAST RATED EXCELLENT BY THE EARLY LEARNING COALITION. THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, UNDER ONE OF SEVEN INDIAN RIVER MARTIN OKEECHOBEE COUNTIES ARE THREE THAT COMPRISE THE EARLY LEARNING COALITION THAT WE SERVE ON, SO WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. IT DOESN'T MATTER YOUR INCOME OR ANYTHING. WE ARE EXCELLENT. RIGHT. GOING TO GO. OUT. LAST WEEK I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING AT NIGHT AND DAY. ON THE THEME. THIS YEAR WAS PUT ON THE RED NOSE REINDEER. TOMORROW THEY'LL SING AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING AND ON FRIDAY THEY'RE PARTICIPATING TWO SHOWS OF THE NUTCRACKER WITH FLORIDA ARTS AND DANCE AND ONE SHOW ON

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SATURDAY. SO LOTS OF EXPERIENCES THAT MAKE FOR GREAT LEARNERS. YES, AND WE KNOW THAT EDUCATION STARTS AT SCHOOL, SO WE MAKE SURE OUR CHILDREN ARE READY FOR KINDERGARTEN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ONCE YOU START BEHIND, YOU NEVER CATCH UP. AND AS A FORMER TEACHER, I KNOW THAT. AND WE ALL REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. BOYS AND GIRLS, ARE YOU READY? YES.

READY. ONE. TWO. THREE. JINGLE BELLS, JINGLE BELLS. JINGLE ALL THE WAY. OH, WHAT FUN IT IS TO RIDE A ONE HORSE OPEN SLEIGH. BELLS, JINGLE BELLS, JINGLE ALL THE WAY. OH, MY LOVE US OPEN SLEIGH. HEY! SNOW IN A ONE HORSE OPEN SLEIGH. ALL THE WE GO ALL THE WAY. HO HO HO. HO HO.

RIDE INTO THE TONIGHT. OH. JINGLE BELLS, JINGLE BELLS. JINGLE ALL THE WAY. ALL RIGHT.

WONDERFUL BUSINESS. HEY. JINGLE BELLS, JINGLE BELLS. JINGLE ALL THE WAY. ON THE FLIGHT. IN THE LIGHT OF DAY. HEY! ALRIGHT. YEAH. ONE, TWO, THREE. WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. HIGH STREET. THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR KIDS. WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. THANK YOU FOR THANKSGIVING. MERRY.

NAVIDAD. NAVIDAD. DE DE DE DE DE UN DE. DE NAVIDAD. NAVIDAD. ES NAVIDAD PEDRO DE. I WANNA WISH YOU A CHRISTMAS. I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. I WANT TO WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. OH, I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. PLEASE NOT ME DOWN. THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS NAVIDAD BETTER THAN DONE.

NAVIDAD. NAVIDAD. THIS NAVIDAD PEDRO DE I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. FROM THE DAUGHTER OF MY HEART.

OH, HEY. GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. SANTA, YOU WANT TO COME DOWN? SANTA, GET ON DOWN THERE. SANTA! GO GET HIM! SANTA WANT YOU ALL NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MY SANTA. SENTENCING

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IS ROCKING HOME. MAN. YOU'RE THE HIT. HERE'S THE HIT, MAN. WE'RE GETTING ALL THE PICTURES.

OF COURSE. YOU JUST GOTTA DROP THE BEARD EVERY NOW AND THEN, RIGHT? AS IS CUSTOMARY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE MAYOR'S TERM IN THE SEAT AND THE REORGANIZATION OF THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK COMMISSIONER RICH FOR THIS TIME WHILE I'VE BEEN THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND FOR YOUR TIME AS THE MAYOR.

AND WE HAVE A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION FOR YOUR TIME. UNSIGNED PROCLAMATIONS. OPEN IT, OPEN IT, OPEN IT. OH. THE GAG GIFT. IT'S A GAG. OH. IT'S A VERY SMALL CROQUET MALLET. OH, AND THE I GET I GET TO GO HOME AND BE THE MAYOR AT HOME WITH THE. YES. OH, THIS IS MAYOR.

MRS. MAYOR MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. WE WILL. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU SIR, I GUESS NOW WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE REORGANIZATION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT CHRISTOPHER COLLINS, THE VICE MAYOR, AS THE MAYOR FOR 2000. WELL, I ACTUALLY THINK IT TAKES EFFECT TODAY. IT TAKES IT TAKES EFFECT TODAY. SO FROM HERE FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO SHUFFLE SEATS. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SHUFFLE SEATS. WE'RE GOING TO SHUFFLE SOME SEATS. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOB AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLERK. DO WE ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION AGAIN? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO RIGHT TO ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER REED. YES, VICE MAYOR COLLINS. YES, MAYOR.

RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES, COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES. THE MOTION PASSES.

CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR COLLINS. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE DOWN. SO I ACTUALLY GO BACK TO WHERE I STARTED EIGHT YEARS AGO ON THE OLD. I DON'T KNOW YET. OKAY.

YOU TWO CAN SWITCH JUST RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET THE SECOND MOTION. OKAY? OKAY. AND IF THE MAYOR WOULD TAKE THE GAVEL AND MAKE THE I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. YES. I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR VICE MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SEAN REED TO BE THE VICE MAYOR.

SECOND. THANK YOU. WHO SECONDED THE MAYOR? MAYOR? SECOND, BECAUSE HE COULDN'T REALLY MAKE THE MOTION. YEAH. THE SECOND, THAT WASN'T LONG. GOT IT BACK. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? NO, BUT IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, I'D LOVE TO SEE SANTA AS THE VICE MAYOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A SUCCESSION THAT THE CITY HAS FOLLOWED FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS NOW, AND THAT WOULD PUT COMMISSIONER CLARK AS VICE MAYOR. IF THE MAYOR IS RUNNING, SEEKING REELECTION, SEEKING ELECTION, I'M SORRY, TO A HIGHER OFFICE. HE, IN FACT, IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESIGN FAIRLY SHORTLY TO SEEK THAT OFFICE. AND WE WOULD THEN FIND OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF HAVING A COMMISSIONER WHO IS ONLY IN THEIR SECOND YEAR BEING MAYOR, WHICH I WOULDN'T WISH THAT ON ANYONE. I, EVEN WITH MY GREATER EXPERIENCE ON THE LPA, WAS NOT MAYOR IN MY SECOND YEAR. MAYOR COLLINS IS CERTAINLY NOT MAYOR IN HIS SECOND YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER AND A MAYOR WHO'S IN HIS SECOND YEAR OF OFFICE, WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE VERY EXPERIENCED COMMISSIONER CLARK BE IN THAT ROLE. I JUST DON'T THINK THE CITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED. WITH COMMISSIONER REED POTENTIALLY

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BECOMING THE MAYOR IN A MERE 90 DAYS. BOTH COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER REED HAVE THREE YEARS LEFT. THEY'LL BOTH BE MAYOR IF WE FOLLOW THE NORMAL ROTATION. I DON'T LIKE TO ABANDON TRADITION FOR NO GOOD REASON. AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS MOTION FAILS AND THAT COMMISSIONER CLARK CAN BECOME VICE MAYOR, AS SHE SHOULD. AND THIS IS NOT TO DENIGRATE THE ABILITIES OF COMMISSIONER REED, BUT MERELY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO ACKNOWLEDGE TRADITION AND UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY WITH A NEW CITY MANAGER WHO MAY NOT EVEN BE FROM OUR AREA. I'M GOING TO HOLD OFFICE VERY SHORTLY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I CAN'T SEE THE BOARD. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOB, YOU WERE FIRST. OKAY. NOTHING AGAINST YOU WISH. SHE HAS DEDICATED MANY YEARS TO THE CITY AND ON THIS DAIS. BUT IN THE MATTER OF ROTATION AND TRADITION, THEY ARE NOT MANDATORY. THEY ARE JUST SUGGESTED. AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE LIVING IN INTERESTING TIMES, AND THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME FRESH IDEAS AND NEW IDEAS. AND I'M SURE THAT COMMISSIONER SEAN REED WILL BE UP TO THE TASK. THANK YOU. FOR ME PERSONALLY, I'VE. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY SORT OF TRADITION ON WHO MIGHT BE VICE MAYOR. I KNOW TRADITIONALLY WHOEVER IS VICE MAYOR BECOMES MAYOR, BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I'VE BEEN HERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU HAVE. I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT THIS IS A THING. I HATE. THAT THAT'S OUT OF THIS MEETING WOULD START OFF IS BY GIVING ANY SENSE THAT HAVING COMMISSIONER REED AS VICE MAYOR WOULD TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THIS COMMISSION. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BOTH ON THE PART OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WHO'S GOING TO CAMPAIGN FOR WHAT, AND THEN ALSO WHAT MAY HAPPEN WITH OUR CITY MANAGER. SO ALL THAT TO SAY, I HAVE FULL FAITH IN COMMISSIONER REED, THAT HE WOULD MAKE AN AMAZING VICE MAYOR. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING FOR HIM. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL PLEASE. I HAD A COMMENT. OH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER REED. YEAH. SANTA. I WASN'T SURE IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE POLITICAL DISCUSSION IN THE ROOM OR NOT. I KNOW I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR, BUT I BELIEVE IT SAYS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE MUNI CODE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE POLITICAL DISCUSSION. AS FAR AS MY ABILITY UP HERE, MY OPINION IS I DO A LOT OF RESEARCH FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS BY SITTING IN THIS CHAIR. I'M SORRY, ONE OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT DOUBT ME IN MY ABILITY. HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC HAS FAITH. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE MOTION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT, COMMISSIONER JOB? NOPE. OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS. THAT'S OKAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. REED. YES, MAYOR. COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS. NOW WE ROTATE.

DID YOU WANT? SPECIFIED? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU, JIM. OKAY. OH, WE'RE AFTER PRESENTATIONS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT HERE BY MOTION. WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'VE ALREADY VOTED, BUT WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WITH REGARD TO VICE MAYOR REED'S RIGHT THERE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IF IF YOU WILL FILL OUT A GREEN CARD. OKAY.

PERFECT. OVER THERE. THEY'RE DOING THIS ON THE BACK. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS

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MICHELLE SMITH. I LIVE AT 1900 SOUTH COUNTY HIGHWAY IN HERE IN STUART. WHY? I APPRECIATE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN STUART. I JUST WANT TO TELL A LITTLE BIT OF MY STORY. I CAME HERE AND RENTED.

I LOVED IT SO MUCH THAT I BOUGHT HERE. BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT THIS, THIS BOARD THIS HAS IS SO DIVIDED. AND I REALLY THINK THAT TRADITION IN THIS CASE SHOULD BE FOLLOWED.

NOTHING AGAINST COMMISSIONER REED. I'VE TALKED TO HIM MANY, MANY TIMES, BUT AT THIS TIME, WHEN SO MANY THINGS ARE GOING ON HERE AND IN THE COUNTY, I THINK WE NEED THE MOST EXPERIENCED, QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO FILL IN AS VICE MAYOR. MY THOUGHTS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WE'RE SPECIFIC TO THE MOTION OF VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER REED BECOMING VICE MAYOR. AND THEN IF YOU LADIES WILL CALL OUT THE NAME. SO FOR THAT ITEM WE DIDN'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. HAVE ANY GREEN CARDS FOR THAT ITEM I DO HAVE. SO IF YOU'LL JUST FILL OUT A GREEN CARD, I ALREADY FILLED ONE OUT TO BE HEARD LATER, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, OKAY. IT'S OKAY. IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO MAKE ONE? MY NAME IS JANINE ALEXANDER. I'M A FORMER RESIDENT OF STUART. I LIVED HERE IN 20. FROM 2013 TO 2015. I'LL BE PRESENTING LATER. I WANT TO APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF SHAWN REED IN REMOVAL OF MICHAEL MARTELL FROM HIS POSITION. IT TAKES A BOLD PERSON. IT TAKES A COURAGEOUS PERSON TO IDENTIFY WHEN SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT. I WANT TO APPLAUD CHRIS COLLINS FOR ACCEPTING A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE HE IS ONE PERSON THAT STOOD UP FOR ME LAST TIME I PRESENTED IN THIS CITY AND TOLD MY STORY, AND I INTEND TO TELL A LITTLE PIECE OF IT TONIGHT. HE FACED OFF WITH MICHAEL MARTELL ABOUT GIVING ME DOCUMENTS THAT I NEED FOR CLEMENCY, AND I'LL DESCRIBE THE EVENTS LATER. I WANT TO APPLAUD YOUR COURAGE. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED NEW BLOOD, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TIME IS NOW. NOW THAT MICHAEL MARTELL HAS BEEN REMOVED 20 YEARS HE SERVED THE CITY. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY THAT MIGHT SHOCK SOME OF YOU ALL TONIGHT. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CITIZENS COMPLAINT PROCESS, IT'S TIME WE ALL LEARNED A LITTLE BETTER. I DID BACK IN 2018. THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP INTO LEADERSHIP BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER. MY LICENSE WAS REVOKED AND I WAS NINE HOURS SHY OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE LICENSE AT THE TIME. I'LL NEVER OBTAIN THAT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT. LEADERSHIP DOES NOT JUST EXIST UP HERE. IT EXISTS. WHEN YOU VOICE YOUR CONCERNS AND YOU DEMONSTRATE YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THANK YOU. I GET TO TALK HISTORY, BUT MARK BROOKFIELD, 406 SOUTHEAST PHINNEY DRIVE, STUART, FLORIDA, 3499766. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK PAST MAYOR RICH. I THOUGHT HE DID AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT JOB THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF HIS MANAGEMENT OF THE MEETINGS AND AND JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BE AS AS CALM AND PROFESSIONAL AS HE COULD. AND I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB RELATIVE TO TO SHAWN. I THINK SHAWN WILL DO A GOOD JOB. I THINK HE'LL DO A REALLY GOOD JOB IF HE ENDS UP AS, AS AS VICE MAYOR. BUT I WOULD SAY I THINK CAMPBELL'S COMMENTS ARE VALID, BUT I'M NOT SURE. AND I GUESS THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN SAY, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE LOCKED INTO AUTOMATICALLY MAKING THE VICE MAYOR THE MAYOR IF THE MAYOR LEAVES. SO IF SHAWN SAYS AT THAT TIME, LOOK, I DON'T THINK I REALLY WANT IT YET OR I DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN THAT'S A DECISION THAT CAN BE MADE. I THINK, AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK HE'LL DO GREAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE NECESSARILY LOCKED IN. AND I THINK YOU'VEOPPORTUNITY. THE RET THAT CHRIS OR FROM TRADITIONALLY WOULD BE MAYOR IS REMEMBER WE USED TO HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS. AND SO YOU WERE MAYOR. IF YOU WERE UP FOR ELECTION, IT GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDGE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT WAS. AND SO I THINK THAT SHOULD CONTINUE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE. IT'S ANYBODY WHO'S UP FOR ELECTION. IT KIND OF GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDGE, BUT THAT'S ALL. THANKS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO COME ON UP? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK GOD FOR ALL OF YOU. EVERYBODY IN HERE.

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THANK GOD FOR WHAT? FOR GOD. AND I PRAY TO GOD THAT SOME OF YOU GET GOD AND YOU BE NICER TO ONE ANOTHER. AND I THINK, AND I THANK GOD FOR SHAWN AND HE GOING TO BE A GOOD PERSON AND HE DO CARE. AND I'M GLAD HE IS WHERE HE IS. HE'S SOMEBODY WHO CARE. AND A COUPLE OF MORE YEARS THAT CARE. AND I THANK GOD FOR Y'ALL. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WISHING EVERYBODY COME TOGETHER, READ YOUR BIBLE, LIVE YOUR BOWEL. THE HELL IS NO PLACE WHERE ANYBODY WANT TO GO.

BEING NASTY TO PEOPLE, TAKING STUFF FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T. YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL. TRUST IN GOD. HE WILL. THAT'S WHAT KEEPING US OVER IN EAST STUART. BY THE GRACE OF GOD, WE'RE STILL IN EAST STUART. THANK GOD FOR JESUS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BETTY. WERE THERE

[PRESENTATIONS ]

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I HAVE NONE FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SERVICE AWARDS.

WITH TEN YEARS OF SERVICE. JORDAN GROSS, ARE YOU HERE? YEAH. LET'S GO. CHRIS. SPEECH, SPEECH. TEN YEARS. SPEECH. TEN MINUTES. OKAY. SO I'M OFFICER GROSS, JORDAN GROSS WITH THE STEWART POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'VE WORKED HERE FOR TEN YEARS, AS YOU ALL JUST LEARNED. BUT I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD TO BE HERE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE CITY. I'VE LIVED IN MARTIN COUNTY MY ENTIRE LIFE AND WORKED IN STEWART MOST OF MY LIFE AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS MY DEPARTMENT UNTIL I RETIRE, AND I'LL CONTINUE LIVING HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY AND STEWART AREA FOR AS LONG AS I CAN. AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE FOR COMING HERE TODAY. AND THE SERVICE AWARD MEANS A LOT TO ME. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NOT IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, BUT WITH 25 YEARS OF SERVICE. MICHAEL DEFRANK. SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING, GOOD JOB. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR 2026 CALENDAR PHOTO CONTEST WINNERS. JIM. YOU GOT IT. YES, SIR. MAYOR, WE ARE HERE TO INTRODUCE PAULA CESTA, WHO'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE CALENDAR PROGRAM. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER. I'M STEPHANIE HUGHEY HERE WITH PAULA CESTA FROM PUBLIC WORKS. WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE 2026 CALENDAR WINNERS. WE HAD 47 PHOTOS THAT WERE SUBMITTED. BETWEEN THOSE 47, WE WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO SELECT 13 PHOTOS TO GO INTO THE CALENDAR THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE PROJECTOR. BETWEEN THAT COMMITTEE, WE HAD SIX EMPLOYEES BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING THAT SELECTED THOSE PHOTOS. AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP EACH WINNER TO RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE AND PHOTO WITH THE MAYOR, WITH THE MAYOR. MISTER MAYOR. SO FIRST WE HAVE NEIL GIFFORD, WHO WON THE COVER IN AUGUST. TO COVER. THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT A LITTLE. YOU GOT IT? YES. PERFECT. OKAY. STEPH, ARE YOU GOING TO CALL THESE OUT IN ORDER? YEAH. OH, NO, I MEANT THE MONTH. WELL, A LOT OF. I WAS SAYING JIM COULD PUT UP THE PHOTO FOR EACH PERSON. A LOT OF THE CONTESTANTS WON TWICE. SO MEAL SHE WAS THE COVER AND AUGUST. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO BACKWARDS, I CAN. NO, NO NO, NO, SHE CAN COME BACK UP AGAIN. YEAH. NEXT WE HAVE ANASTASIA HERRON. SHE WON

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JANUARY AND JUNE OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE OH SORRY. NEXT WE HAVE MARK STAHL WHO WON FEBRUARY AND SEPTEMBER. YEAH. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. COME NEXT. WE HAVE MR. PAUL STROSS. MARCH AND NOVEMBER. MR. STROSS CANNOT BE HERE TONIGHT, SO WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT. NEXT WE HAVE DARLENE NKOMO, BUT HER HUSBAND WILL BE HERE. VINCENT, TO ACCEPT THE PHOTOS FOR APRIL AND DECEMBER. YOU WANT TO. OKAY. IT'S JUST. IT'S AMAZING. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE MR. WAYNE KING, WHO WON MAY. BUT MR. KING COULD NOT BE HERE WITH US TONIGHT. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE MR. CARL KRUGER, WHO WON JULY IN OCTOBER. I WANT TO ASK IF I CAN HAVE ALL WINNERS COME BACK UP TO TAKE A GROUP PHOTO, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. GO OUT AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. STEPHANIE, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT INTRODUCING YOU. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. I GOT TOWARDS THE END. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO COMMENTS BY

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS ]

COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL NECESSARILY GO IN ORDER FIRST COME FIRST SERVE I HAVE COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOB. OKAY. THIS BEING THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING FOR 2025, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY OF STUART, WHO MAKE OUR CITY THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. TO ALL THOSE WHO SEND SUPPORTIVE EMAILS AND PROVIDE POSITIVE FEEDBACK TO THE CITY AND THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. TO ALL INDIVIDUALS WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME IN SUPPORTING THE CITY. TO ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT FEED AND CLOTHE OUR HOMELESS POPULATION. ADDING ON TO I HAVE MAYOR IN HERE HEADING ON TO COMMISSIONER RICHARDS SENTIMENT AS OF THE LAST MEETING. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALL DO COLLECTIVELY IN 2026 TO HELP OUR HOMELESS HERE IN STUART. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ALONE AT THIS HOLIDAY TIME. A LITTLE ATTENTION OR SHORT VISIT WILL MAKE THEIR DAY SPECIAL. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, I WANT TO SAY I HAD FUN AT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE AND I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE COMMENT DURING. WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, I TOLD A BUNCH OF STUART RESIDENTS THAT I'D COME BACK, SO I MENTIONED IT TO CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER INTERIM CITY MANAGER JOE LEE THAT I WANT TO DO SOME SORT OF TOWN HALL, AND I JUST WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM MY BOARD MEMBERS. AND BASICALLY MY OBJECTIVE AND GOALS ARE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW AGENDAS WORK AGENDA PACKETS, MUNI CODE, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, JUST BASICALLY HOW TO FIND THE INFORMATION AND WHAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS. WHEN I SEE AN AGENDA ITEM COME UP AND WHERE I GO FOR MY RESEARCH. SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS AND SEE HOW THE BOARD FELT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE JUST ME. MY PLAN IS NOT TO TAKE ANY STANCES ON ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE. IT'S MORE SO EDUCATIONAL. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE, BUT I WAS GOING TO GET WITH JIM AS WELL AND GO FROM THERE. YOU HAVE A HEAD NOD FROM ME TO THE CITY MANAGER. YEAH, I AGREE, I THINK IT'S A

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GREAT IDEA. SO ALL RIGHT, I'LL GET WITH THEM AND THEN WE WILL COME UP WITH A DATE AND GO FROM THERE AS LONG AS WE ADVERTISE IT. AND. WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN AN ADVERTISEMENT ONE. THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION HAD COME. YES. RIGHT. WE WE WE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ADVERTISED THE SAME WAY AS A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. AND JUST I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT WE'VE HAD PRIOR TOWN HALLS. I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS HAD TOWN HALL OVER IT, 10TH STREET, AND I BELIEVE SOME PRIOR COMMISSIONERS HAVE AS WELL. SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. SO ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. OKAY. JUST A QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS CANNOT ATTEND. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WE COULDN'T PARTICIPATE, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD ATTEND. I WOULD DISSUADE YOU FROM ATTENDING THIS THIS, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE TWO OR MORE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT AT A MEETING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT LIKE A REGULAR MEETING. OKAY. SO YES, AND I ALSO WANTED TO GET A BOARD CONSENSUS ON AGENDA ITEM 14, DIRECTION OF THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

IF WE COULD MOVE THAT AGENDA ITEM UP. I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED WITH CITY MANAGER COMING PRIOR TO AGENDA ITEM TEN. SO IF WE COULD DO THAT. SO IT'S NOT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.

DO WE WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE DURING THE WE APPROVE. YES. I'M JUST I KNOW I'M JUST MENTIONING IT NOW. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. MY COMMENTS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS. DO I HAVE OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? YES. I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE JUST GONE IN ORDER.

THAT'D BE EASIER, BUT A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT. YEAH. I KNOW THROWING YOU OFF. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS, THE RESIDENTS, FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO UP HERE, WHETHER IT'S YOU THINK IT'S GOOD OR BAD, IT'S SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THEIR LIVES. AND WE'RE HERE IN THE DECISION MAKING ROLE. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS. I THINK COMMISSIONER JOB SAID THAT SOMETIMES WE GET EMAILS THAT ARE NOT AS KIND, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT WE GET INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS. THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT TO OUR MEETINGS AND EVEN WATCH THE MEETINGS AND LET US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. OUR LATEST CHRISTMAS PARADE WAS WELL DONE, WELL COORDINATED, AND ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE DO, WHETHER WE DO IT ALONG WITH THE COUNTY, THEY'RE WELL COORDINATED. WE'VE HAD SPECIAL TIME THIS YEAR IN THE CITY OF STUART, BEING A PART OF MARTIN COUNTY'S 100 YEARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE SUMMERTIME COMING ON UP. AND IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. I KNOW THAT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ESPECIALLY HARD WORKING, NOT JUST FOR BIG EVENTS BUT FOR ALL TIMES. AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR STAFF THAT WE CAN DEPEND ON, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM FOR OUR OUTGOING MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW THAT AT TIMES THINGS HAVE BEEN TEDIOUS AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU TAKE IT ALL IN STRIDE. IT'S A PART OF THE THE OF SERVING AND WORKING AND HELPING AND GROWING TOGETHER FOR OUR INCOMING MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE HAD ON THE COMMISSION AND THE SERVICE THAT WE EXPECT YOU TO PROVIDE AS A LEADER, AND TO BEING THAT LEADER ROLE, AND ALSO FOR OUR VICE MAYOR. AGAIN, IT'S A LEADERSHIP ROLE, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WITH REGARD TO OUR COMMUNITY, I JUST DROVE FOR THE FIRST TIME. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A FEW, PROBABLY A FEW WEEKS, BUT I JUST DROVE ON SEMINOLE STREET. IT LOOKS WONDERFUL AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE THINGS TO COME IN THE BACK THERE WITH THE WITH REGARD TO THE THE OWNER, SOME OF THEM MAY NEED TO PAINT UP THEIR BUILDINGS. NOW THAT THE THE PATHWAY THERE IS GOING TO MAKE VISIBILITY REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH VISIBILITY CORRIDOR. I LIKE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. I'D SEEN THE PLANS, BUT NOT UNTIL THEY'RE IN PLACE. DO YOU REALLY GET A PERFECT FEEL FOR FOR WHAT IT IS. SO SEMINOLE STREET IS DONE THE UNDERGROUNDING AND AND SOME OF THE THE THE THE LANDSCAPE IS, IS IN. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE CRA HAS DONE WITH THAT. AND THEY MUST BE HIGHLY APPLAUDED. I JUST WANT TO PUT ON MY SANTA HAT AND DO MY LITTLE SANTA THING. SO LET ME SEE. I HAVE A LITTLE GIFT FROM CASTRO NOVAS, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN CASTRO NOVAS AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND WE HAVE FOR THE CLERK AND THE THE CITY MANAGER

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AND A FEW OTHERS. WE JUST GET THIS TO LEE AND LEE. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND. OUR OUR MOMENT, WE HAD A WONDERFUL ARTS MOMENT TODAY. I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING ON TO DEAL WITH THE THE COMMISSION AGENDA AND ADOPTING CERTAIN THINGS THAT GO FORWARD FOR THE NEW YEAR. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE ARTS MOMENT. AS LONG AS I'M HERE, I'M I'M WILLING TO DO IT AND TO WORK WITH IT. AND WHEN YOU SEE ACTS LIKE WHAT WE HAD TONIGHT, WE UNDERSTAND WHY STUART IS SPECIAL AND WHY WE REALLY PULL OUT THE ARTS IN STUART. WHEN WE TRY TO DEDICATE THAT ONE TIME A MONTH FOR 3 TO 5 MINUTES TO DO, TO DO AN ARTS MOMENT. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, JUST MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE BEST TO EVERYONE FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND FOR THE UPCOMING 2026. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER RICH. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, I'M A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER. I'M COMPLETELY CONGESTED AND HAVING DIFFICULTY ACTUALLY HEARING SO. BUT I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH FUN IT IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY'S CHRISTMAS PARADE. I'M ALWAYS SO SHOCKED AT HOW MANY YOUNG FAMILIES NOW ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND AT SUCH A JOY. AND IT'S SUCH A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE AND VIBRANT AND GROWING ECONOMY FOR THEM. ALONG THOSE LINES, I WAS I TOOK A TOUR OF THE DYE AIR PLANT, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, THAT IS HOW YOU PRONOUNCE IT.

THE DYE PLANT. AND I HAD NO IDEA HOW LARGE AND SOPHISTICATED A MANUFACTURING THAT FACILITY IS RIGHT THERE WITH ENFIELD, AND HOW MUCH LARGER IT'S GOING TO GET. AND HUNDREDS OF HIGH PAYING JOBS, HIGHLY SKILLED JOBS. AND WE ARE SO LUCKY THAT, IN FACT, DYER IS THE OLDEST AVIATION COMPANY IN THE WORLD, BASED IN ORLY AIRFIELD IN FRANCE, WHERE CHARLES LINDBERGH LANDED, BY THE WAY. SO IT IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW THAT. THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE WHAT'S IT WHAT'S IT CALLED? IT'S THE REACH CENTER. IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED THAT'S BEING BUILT THERE? YES. YEAH. WHAT'S IT? YEAH, AT THE AIRPORT. AT THE AIRPORT? IT'S THE ROOT CENTER. YEAH. THEY'RE DOING VOCATIONAL TRAINING BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX JOBS. VERY WELL. THEY'RE VERY WELL PAID. AND SO I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR OUR YOUNGER KIDS, FOR OUR YOUNGER PEOPLE, AND THAT THE COMMUNITY IS TAKING ITS RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY AND TRAINING UP A WORKFORCE TO MEET THAT DEMAND.

I WILL COMMENT ON BEING MAYOR IS A IT'S A VERY INTERESTING ROLE. IT IS. IT'S AN HONOR AND IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY. I DID A TV INTERVIEW ABOUT 90 DAYS AGO, AND IT WAS A REPORTER I'D NEVER MET. AND HE GOES, THE CITY OF STUART HAS HAD MORE ATTENTION ON IT IN THE LAST TEN, IN THE LAST YEAR THAN THE PRIOR TEN YEARS, AND WE WERE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF CONTENTIOUS ISSUES.

AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING AS MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU YOU DON'T REPRESENT YOURSELF, YOU REPRESENT YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE. AND THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE. AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY. BUT WHAT'S REWARDING IN LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS EASY. AND I DO SINCERELY WISH MAYOR COLLINS THE BEST, BECAUSE IF HE DOES WELL, WE ALL DO WELL AND THE CITY WILL PROSPER. SO MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU, MAYOR COLLINS. AND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS BACK AT YOU AND SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AS MAYOR.

I KNOW I DID MY PART TO MAKE IT EXCEPTIONALLY EASY FOR YOU DURING THESE MEETINGS, AND I

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HOPE YOU'LL MAKE IT NO LESS EASY ON ME, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT WASN'T AN EASY TASK. WE WE ARE ALL VERY STRONG AND OF OF UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES, AS IS THE CITY OF STUART. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO MANAGE THESE MEETINGS. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND YOUR DESIRE TO KEEP ORDER IN THESE CHAMBERS. AND I HOPE TO DO A SIMILAR JOB IN MY OWN WAY.

WITH REGARD TO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, I WOULD ALSO ECHO YOUR SENTIMENTS. THAT IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS JOB IS YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, BUT THROWING CANDY CANES AT KIDS, YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAND THEM OUT, BUT YOU KNOW IT. IT IS JUST AMAZING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP TO THE LITTLE CITY OF STUART TO ENJOY THE PARADE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER COME HERE TO ENJOY THIS PARADE. IT'S REALLY A REGIONAL EVENT, SO I'M THANKFUL TO STAFF, TO THE POLICE, TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE SURE THAT WE WERE SAFE. THANK YOU TO ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS. THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AND THANKFUL THAT NOTHING HAPPENED AND EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO GO HOME IN ONE PIECE. SO THANK YOU GUYS. IF YOU'RE WATCHING WITH REGARD TO BUSINESS. AS MAYOR, SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO, I ACTUALLY HEARD ABOUT THIS IDEA FROM FORMER COMMISSIONER, MAYOR EVERYTHING KRAUSKOPF, JEFF KRAUSKOPF, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, A GREAT IDEA IF AND WHEN YOU'RE EVER MAYOR IS TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH EACH COMMISSIONER. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LONG, HALF HOUR, YOU KNOW, AND SIT DOWN AND GET A SENSE OF WHAT THAT PERSON FEELS LIKE IS THE DIRECTION THE CITY SHOULD GO IN, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST ONE ON ONE HUMAN TO HUMAN TALK. AND SO SOMETHING I WANTED TO ASK IS IF WE COULD DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE AN ADVERTISED MEETING. SO WE'RE NOT VIOLATING SUNSHINE.

IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. BUT I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD FIND A DAY, YOU KNOW, AROUND OUR JANUARY MEETING WHERE WE COULD SIT DOWN AND POTENTIALLY IF IT'S DIFFERENT DAYS, IF IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, I'M AT YOUR DISPOSAL, YOU GUYS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH WITH EACH OF YOU AND GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE CAN GO. WITH ME IN THIS POSITION. SO WITH THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MANAGED INTERNALLY? YES. OKAY. PERFECT. AWESOME. OKAY. SO THE OTHER CHRISTMAS EVENT THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY WAS THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING. SO I, I WAS THANKFUL TO GET TO ATTEND, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT YEAR. AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT I'M GLAD CANDACE IS HERE. SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR, AND I. I HATE TO BE NEGATIVE.

IT WAS HISTORICALLY, FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, THE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF STUART, SOME OFFICIAL FROM THE CITY OF STUART, HAS PERFORMED THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING. IT WAS A CITY OF STUART EVENT MY FIRST YEAR, I THINK. I THINK MY MY KIDS AND I AND MAYBE TROY MCDONALD AND THEN AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR I THINK IT WAS MAYOR RICH AND A BUNCH OF KIDS. YOU KNOW, WE THERE'S ALL THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. BUT FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, AT LEAST THERE WAS SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF STUART THAT WAS LIGHTING THE CHRISTMAS TREE FROM THE CITY OF STUART. THIS YEAR WAS UNIQUE IN THAT IT BECAME A FPL, YOU KNOW, NOTHING AGAINST MR. CRITCHFIELD OR ANYTHING, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT THE CITY OF STUART CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING START TO TURN INTO. WHO THE LARGEST SPONSOR IS. YOU KNOW, LIGHTING THE TREE, AS I SEE IT, AS A CITY EVENT, NO MATTER EXACTLY WHO'S ORGANIZING IT. SO I HOPE THAT ME SAYING THIS IS ENOUGH AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SOME LETTER OR SOMETHING MORE OFFICIAL, BUT I HOPE GOING FORWARD THAT WHETHER IT'S COMMISSIONERS OR THE MAYOR OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR POLICE, SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF STUART IS OFFICIATING THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. YES. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YES. DO WE KNOW WHO APPOINTS THAT PERSON TO LIGHT THE TREE? OH THE MAYOR, THEY JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT THE PERSON'S GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE MAYOR. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE SO THAT THEY CAN PLAN AND HAVE SOMEBODY THERE. AND IF THERE WAS A MIX UP, I HOPE THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. SO I'M HAPPY TO I WAS THERE, YES. NO.

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WE'RE ONE. I'M WONDERING WHO GAVE STUART STUART MAIN STREET. YES OKAY. SO I THINK GOING FORWARD YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S IT SHOULD BE DONE BY A CITY OFFICIAL. IT COULD BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT COULD BE ANYONE, BUT NOT. YEAH, NOT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A CORPORATE EVENT SPONSORED BY PFIZER. RIGHT. YEAH. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A CORPORATE EVENT. IT'S THE MAYOR. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO MAYOR WAS STANDING THERE AND HOWEVER IT HAPPENED, I JUST HOPE THAT GOING FORWARD, I JUST WANTED TO SAY PUBLICLY THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS MAJOR COREY BELL FROM THE ARMY CORPS DID A PRESENTATION ON THE LAST MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS TEXTING HIM WHILE HE'S DOING IT, MAN, YOU GOT TO DO THAT AT THE CITY. SO HE HE SAID IF FOR HIM TO DO THAT, THIS BOARD WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND AN INVITATION, WHICH I WOULDN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE. BUT WITH ESPECIALLY BEN, NO LONGER WITH US TO GIVE US UPDATES ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE FACT THAT HE IS WILLING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAJOR BELL COME AND DO AN OFFICIAL PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WITH THE POWERPOINTS, AND GIVE US ALL A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT, IF ANY, RELEASES WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE. IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT INTERESTED THE REST OF YOU, YOU WANT THAT JANUARY OR FEBRUARY? I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE BEFORE PEOPLE GO TO TALLAHASSEE. IT MAY IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THAT OUR INTERIM MANAGER HAS TO COORDINATE WITH. MAJOR BELL AND JEFF PRATER, WHO'S HIS PR GUY. BUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM IN HERE.

OBJECTION. I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF IT. YEAH. GIVEN THAT IT SEEMS IT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD. I'LL ARRANGE THAT MEETING. AND AND I'M SURE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, RUTH, SHE'S IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM GOING, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RELATIONSHIP ALL THE WAY AROUND. YEAH. AND HE'S GREAT. HE'S A HE'S A FANTASTIC REPRESENTATIVE. WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE HIM. HE'S VERY ACCESSIBLE. SO WITH THAT, I HAVE SOME OTHER REORGANIZATION

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER ]

COMMENTS THAT I'LL SAVE FOR THAT AGENDA ITEM. INTERIM MANAGER, ANY COMMENTS FROM YOU? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ALSO FOR WHATEVER CONTENTIOUS I THINK WAS THE WORD USED EARLIER, STUFF THAT HAPPENS UP HERE AT THE BOARD BEHIND THE SCENES. THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY NICE PEOPLE. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY NICE TO ME. HOW ARE THEY TREAT EACH OTHER? THEY'VE BEEN VERY GENTLE AND NICE WITH ME. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, AS WE GO INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON THAT DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME AND IT'S IT'S A TOUGH JOB. IT'S, IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH JOB. AND THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS AND NICE TO ME. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE TO HELP ME THROUGH THIS PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL. SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO THE FIVE OF YOU AND THANK YOU. AND TO THE STAFF WHO IS MAKING, YOU KNOW, THINGS LOOK SEAMLESS AROUND HERE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. LEE, I KNOW IT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUSINESS WISE, BUT JUST MERRY CHRISTMAS

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

EVERYBODY. MERRY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU LEE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND NEW YEAR AND ALL THAT.

SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA APPROVAL WITH ITEM NUMBER 14 GOING UP BEFORE ITEM NUMBER TEN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN PULL AGENDA ITEM SEVEN FOR DISCUSSION. YES. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT? ANY OTHER APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? CORRECT. WE'RE RIGHT NOW APPROVING THE AGENDA AGENDA ITSELF. YEAH. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE GO TO THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT. RIGHT. WE'RE APPROVING THE AGENDA. YES. SURE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL NEED MR. VICE MAYOR. I THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE PULLED DOWN. WELL, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. IT HAS TO BE PULLED BEFORE WE DO THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT. YEAH. WE'RE PROCEDURALLY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I'M NOT CLEAR AS WELL.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD DO NOW OR YOU WOULD WAIT? YES. WE WE'RE ADOPTING THE AGENDA AND WE'RE AMENDING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA. SO IF THE PULL IT BUT INCLUDING PULLING SEVEN SEVEN.

YES. FROM CONSENT OKAY OKAY. PERFECT. SO THAT IS APPROPRIATE OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN DID DID YOU AMEND YOUR SECOND AS WELL. YES COMMISSIONER JOB. OH THE SECOND. YES I SECOND. BOTH NUMBER SEVEN BEING MOVED. ARE WE MOVING IT TO THE FIRST PART OF THE AGENDA. I WOULD KEEP THE NUMERICAL ORDER OKAY. SO IT'LL BE MOVED TO THE FIRST PART OF AGENDA BEFORE NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER 14 WILL BE MOVED BEFORE TEN. CORRECT. YES. OKAY. SO SEE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR I, I OKAY, MOVING ON TO COMMENTS FROM THE

[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.) ]

PUBLIC, AS YOU SAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? JOSEPH TUMINELLI AND THIS IS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. JIM, JIM, JIM, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS BACK TO THE CENTER? THANK YOU MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. CONGRATULATION, MAYOR. VICE MAYOR THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

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COMMISSIONER CLARK. JOB COMMISSIONER RICH AND TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. I'M HERE TONIGHT ON A TOPIC NOT ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT THE FUTURE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY OF STUART. THE RESIDENTS WHO PACKED THIS ROOM AND SIT IN THESE SEATS, AND THE EMPLOYEES WHO SERVE THE CITY EVERY DAY DESERVE RELIEF FROM THE UNCERTAINTY. FOR 28 YEARS, SEVEN OF THEM AS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ONE RETIRED CITY EMPLOYEE STOOD RIGHT THERE IN THIS CHAMBER AND HEARD THE SAME FOUR PLEAS MEETING. AFTER MEETING CLEAN WATER IN OUR ESTUARY, STREETS THAT DON'T FLOOD, TRAFFIC THAT ACTUALLY MOVES, A CITY HALL THAT ANSWERS ONLY TO TAXPAYERS. THAT EMPLOYEE MANAGED A QUARTER OF THE CITY STAFF A $10 MILLION BUDGET. FOR YEARS, THAT EMPLOYEE SERVED AS ACTING CITY MANAGER MORE THAN ONCE, EVEN SAT ON THAT VERY DAIS AND KEPT EVERY DEPARTMENT RUNNING. THAT EMPLOYEE RETIRED IN GOOD STANDING, FOLLOWED EVERY RULE, AND IN 28 YEARS, NEVER ONCE ACCEPTED A GIFT, A FAVOR, OR EVEN A HINT FROM A UNION GROUP OR OUTSIDER TRYING TO INFLUENCE HIM. WHEN ANY RESIDENT, ANY CITY EMPLOYEE OR COMMISSIONER CALLED THE DAY, NIGHT, WEEKEND OR HOLIDAY, THAT EMPLOYEE ANSWERED THE PHONE CALL EVERY SINGLE TIME, ALWAYS PUTTING THE LAW AND THE RESIDENTS FIRST, ALWAYS IMPARTIAL. THAT EMPLOYEE STILL KNOWS EVERY STREET, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY FACE IN THIS CITY BY HEART. ZERO OUTSIDE TIES. PERIOD. YOU HAVE PUBLICLY PRAISED THAT EMPLOYEES COMPETENCE AND INTEGRITY, CALLING THE WORK EXEMPLARY AND THE ETHICS UNQUESTIONABLE.

RIGHT FROM THAT VERY DAIS ON THE RECORD, MORE THAN ONCE, THIS COMMISSION CAMPAIGNED ON AND HAS DELIVERED THESE PROMISES TO THE PEOPLE OF STUART, ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY, ZERO BACKROOM DEALS, IRONCLAD FISCAL DISCIPLINE, PROTECTION OF OUR RIVER, SLOWER GROWTH AND SMARTER GROWTH, AND PUTTING THE RESIDENTS FIRST EVERY DAY. THE COMMISSION ALONE HOLDS THE CHARTER AUTHORITY TO APPOINT A CITY MANAGER AT ANY MEETING AT ANY TIME. A POWER THAT YOU HAVE EXERCISED BEFORE WHEN IT WAS A NECESSITY. THE OPPORTUNITY NOW RESTS ENTIRELY WITH YOU. TO YOUR HONOR, MAY I FINISH? I HAVE ONE MORE PARAGRAPH. SURE. THANK YOU SIR. AND, TYLER, WITH YOUR HONOR, EVERY PROMISE YOU MADE TO THE CITIZENS OF STUART BY APPOINTING THE LEADER. THIS VERY BODY HAS ALREADY DECLARED EXEMPLARY AND UNQUESTIONABLE. I AM CONFIDENT THAT WHEN STUART FINALLY BECOMES A CITY, ITS RESIDENTS VOTED FOR. YOU WILL KNOW YOU BROUGHT HOME THE ONE LEADER WHO NEVER ONCE LET THIS CITY DOWN. THANK YOU. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND COURAGE. KEVIN HEMPHILL. KEVIN HEMPHILL, KEVIN. HI, MY NAME IS KEVIN HEMPHILL.

I'D LIKE TO ECHO COMMISSIONER CLARK'S. ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE GERTRUDE WALTON 20 SOME KIDS THAT SANG HERE TONIGHT. I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK GOES INTO THAT, AND I CAN WALK TO THAT CENTER FROM WHERE I LIVE. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW GREAT IT WAS TO SEE THEM. I WAS SURPRISED THAT THEY WERE HERE. I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING. I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF CORTEZ AND STEDMAN.

512 CORTEZ. I OWN PROPERTY AT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SAME CORNER AT 840 STEDMAN AND I.

EXCUSE ME, I MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKE. I LIVE AT 512 CORTEZ. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A

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DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT WAS CREATED BY THE CITY SOME 20 YEARS AGO, WHEN THEY DID THE LAST DRAINAGE PROJECT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU. LAST TIME I SPOKE THE NIGHT BEFORE I SPOKE TO YOU, MY HOUSE FLOODED. WE HAD A RAINSTORM THAT NIGHT, PROBABLY ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF OF RAIN. I KEEP A RAIN GAUGE AND MY HOUSE FLOODED AGAIN, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT THE ENGINEER. THE CITY HAS CONTRACTED WITH. WE'VE BEEN GOING TALKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND I'VE KIND OF BEEN GHOSTED. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING BACK FROM THE OFFICE, FROM THE ENGINEER. AS IF YOU REMEMBER, I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN CIVIL ENGINEERING. I'VE GOT A PHD FROM THE STREETS, FROM BEING A BUILDER, A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE LAST 50, 60 YEARS. AND I HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO SOMEBODY. LAST MEETING, COMMISSIONER RICH OFFERED TO COME OUT WITH THE ARBORIST FROM THE CITY, AND WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. AND I DON'T NOT SURE IF I SHOULD. SOME OF YOU FOLKS SITTING UP THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TO MY HOUSE, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU BACK TO TALK WITH MY WIFE AND MYSELF. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO MY HOUSE, I'D INVITE YOU OVER NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND IF NOT THE COMMISSION, IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY MANAGER MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE ME SOME TIME TO TALK TO WHAT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN MY PROPERTY FOR THE LAST 20 SOME YEARS. WE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE LANDSCAPING WE'VE PUT IN OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS ON A PROPERTY I LIVED. DOCTOR MENNINGER PLANTED SOME OF THE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING REALLY DISTURBING. IT REALLY HAS TO. I MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT A SIDEWALK WITH A GUTTER SIMILAR TO WHAT'S AT THE POST OFFICE, IT WOULD WORK TERRIFIC ON CORTEZ. THE WATER WOULD DRAIN FINE, AND I'LL END WITH THAT. BUT I DID WANT TO SAY WE'RE ONE OF THE BIG SUPPORTERS OF SIDEWALKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS MY FAMILY. OKAY.

THANKS, KEVIN. THANK YOU. KEVIN. SO I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THIS YOU COULD GIVE ME AN ANSWER. DO I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU FOLKS WITH THE SAME ANSWER? WHAT SHOULD I DO? CITY MANAGER WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. I'VE NOTED HIS ADDRESS. THE CLERK. I'M SORRY. THE CLERK GAVE ME YOUR ADDRESS. I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE HOLIDAYS.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT AFTER THE HOLIDAYS. THAT THAT WORKS FOR ME. THIS IS NO BIG.

IT'S A HOLIDAY, NOT A DAY OFF. SIR, I HAVE A TURKEY SANDWICH ON THANKSGIVING, TOO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. EVERYBODY. ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAYS. MERRY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU. GIVE JANINE ALEXANDER. GIVE IT TO US. GIVE THEM TO THE CLERK. YES. THANK YOU.

YEAH. LET ME JUST PUT IT FOR THE CITY MANAGER. I'LL BRING YOU ONE. OKAY? YEAH.

THEY'RE NOT LEGAL. OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU MINE. LEE AND I ARE GOING TO SHARE THE SAME THING.

SEEMS STUPID. YEAH, OKAY. THIS WAS HANDED TO US A WHILE AGO. THIS WAS. THIS WAS NOTHING LIKE TRYING TO CONDENSE TEN YEARS OF MY LIFE INTO THREE MINUTES. I USED TO TEACH HIGH SCHOOL BIOLOGY, PHYSICS, AND PHYSICAL SCIENCE. I HAD 55 MINUTES EVERY PERIOD, SEVEN PERIODS A DAY. I NO LONGER HAVE A LICENSE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU ABOUT TONIGHT.

CHRIS COLLINS I ADMIRE AND RESPECT THAT YOU ANSWERED MY EMAIL WHEN I ASKED YOU. YOU KNOW WHAT A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT IS AND HAS IT CHANGED SINCE I FILED ONE WITH MICHAEL MARTEL IN 2018? THAT CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT, IF YOU FLIP PAGE, I'M GOING TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH THIS REAL FAST. THIS IS A STORY ABOUT MICHAEL MARTEL'S FIRING. HE FELT BLINDSIDED AND AMBUSHED.

I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE. ON FEBRUARY 27TH OF 2015, I WAS NOT ONLY BLINDSIDED, THERE WAS

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A WARRANTLESS ARREST THAT OCCURRED AT MY CONDOMINIUM IN STUART, FLORIDA, BY FOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. OFFICER VO, THE OFFICER THAT NEGLECTED TO GET EVIDENCE THAT WOULD HAVE EXONERATED ME FROM ANY CRIME OFFICER. KYLE, OFFICER MATTHEW CERNUTO AND OFFICER HEARTFELT, FOUR OF THEM. AT 1030 AND I SHOWED UP AT MY DOOR FLIP PAGE. I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE AMBUSHED. I MADE MICHAEL MARTEL AWARE OF THIS IN A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT IN 2018, ALONG WITH A POLICE I OH, I, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED TWO. DAVID DIAZ DAVID DIAZ'S RESPONSE TO OFFICER VO'S EDITING OF A VIDEO IS IT'S OKAY IF AN OFFICER TAKES JUST A LITTLE CLIP OF SOMETHING. THERE ARE SEVERAL ACCOUNTS WHERE MY FORMER DOMESTIC PARTNER WAS VIDEOTAPING ME AND HAD SEVEN MINUTES OF VIDEO. WHAT WAS TURNED INTO EVIDENCE WAS 55 SECONDS TURN PAGE POLICE OFFICER VO WROTE AN ACCOUNT THAT EVENING, AND ONE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPHS I ACCOUNT FOR BEING GRABBED AND PUSHED BY TWO PEOPLE I DIRECTED HIM TO WHERE THEY WERE. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GUILTY PERSON WOULD DO THAT. YOU THINK DIRECT SOMEBODY TO WHERE THAT THEIR ATTACKERS WERE? TURN PAGE. YOU'RE FREE TO READ THIS AFTER I PRESENT IN A TEXT MESSAGE IT SAID SEVEN MINUTES OF VIDEO. THIS COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE PERPETRATOR DENNIS GALLAS, IN A TEXT MESSAGE ON MARCH 17TH, TEN DAYS AFTER THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED. HE FILMED ME WRONGFULLY. HE LOCKED ME ON A LANAI, RANTED AT ME, GRABBED ME, BATTERED ME, LOCKED ME IN A BATHROOM, THEN WENT A LITTLE DRUNK LADY, SHOWED UP AND GRABBED ME TWO TO ASSIST HIM. I WAS ACCUSED OF BATTERING HER.

TURN PAGE IN A SETTLEMENT OF A DEFAMATION ACTION, DENNIS GALLAS ADMITS HE HAD SEVEN MINUTES TURN PAGE IN A STATEMENT IN SETTLEMENT OF A DEFAMATION ACTION, DENNIS GALLAS DESCRIBES THE OFFICER ON THE SCENE, OFFICER VO, HELPING HIM EDIT DOWN A SEVEN MINUTE VIDEO TO 55 SECONDS AND EMAILING IT DIRECTLY TO HIM, IN VIOLATION OF POLICY 27 OF POLICE POLICY EVIDENCE COLLECTION. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF EVIDENCE GATHERED ON THE SCENE. MAY I PLEASE CONTINUE? VIDEO OF JANINE ALEXANDER. THIS WAS SENT TO ME BY MICHAEL MARTEL IN 2018. I APPLAUD HIS FIRING. MICHAEL MARTEL HAS HARASSED ME. HE'S COERCED ME. HE'S TOLD ME I WAS DELUSIONAL. NOT ONLY DID MY FORMER DOMESTIC PARTNER ABUSE ME, I WAS ABUSED IN THE SYSTEM. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAS WORSE. I HAD SOMEBODY ASK ME RECENTLY THE BETRAYAL BY A DOMESTIC PARTNER OR THE ABUSE BROUGHT ON BY THE SYSTEM. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR DOMESTIC ABUSE. I WAS INTRODUCED TO A STATE REPRESENTATIVE RECENTLY, JUST THIS PAST WEEK, AND SHARED MY STORY. 45 MINUTES OF IT ON THE PHONE WHILE I LAID IN BED RESTING. BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE EMOTIONAL RAMIFICATIONS FROM ALL THAT I'VE SUSTAINED IN TEN YEARS IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH. BUT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT THE THREE ADULT CHILDREN THAT WATCHED ME TAKE A FALL, WATCH ME LOSE A CAREER, AND I'M GOING TO STAND FIRM IN MY CONVICTIONS TILL I SEE JUSTICE. THE JUSTICE THAT THE REVEREND SPOKE OF EARLIER THIS EVENING. I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE REPORT TO OFFICER SUDHOFF TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE. AND THEN I PROVIDE FOR YOU A LETTER TO THE STATE ATTORNEY THAT CITES FLORIDA STATUTE 918. NO ONE WOULD ALTER, DESTROY, CONCEAL, OR REMOVE ANY RECORD OR DOCUMENT OR THING WITH THE PURPOSE TO IMPAIR IT. I GOTTA CUT YOU OFF, JANINE. KNOWING AN INVESTIGATION IS OCCURRING, I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A CONFERENCE OR AN SERB BOARD MEETING HEARING THAT MICHAEL MARTEL DENIED AT THE TERMINATION OF HIS INVESTIGATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. FOR THAT. JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES FOR THE SERB.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS. LEE, DO YOU MIND CHIMING IN? THERE IS NO MORE SERB. SO THAT WAS A BOARD. THE OFFICERS HAVE THE BILL OF RIGHTS, WHICH PROTECT THEM UNDER STATE LAW FROM INVESTIGATIONS. AND SO THE SERB USED TO DO ITS OWN INVESTIGATION OF POLICE OFFICERS. ACTIONS OR ALLEGATIONS ARE, I GUESS, AGAINST MULTIPLE OFFICERS. SO THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED A BILL OF RIGHTS THAT'S ADDRESSES THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS A LOT OF THIS PREDATED ME. I KNOW SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS.

SHE'S COME EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND BROUGHT THIS UP. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE

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HEARD IT. IT SEEMS LIKE QUIETS DOWN AND SHE REAPPEARS AND REITERATES WHAT SHE JUST DID. I ALL OF THIS HAPPENED BEFORE ME, SO I DON'T. I HAVE SOME MEMORY OF TRYING TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF IT, BUT TYPICALLY YOU WOULD DO AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLAINT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S HOW THE BILL OF RIGHTS AFFORDS THEM REPRESENTATION THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO BY HAVING AN SERB, IT KIND OF CONFLICTED WITH THE BILL OF RIGHTS THAT WE'VE DONE AWAY WITH THAT THAT BOARD THAT WE HAD FOR A WHILE, IT WAS DISSOLVED. SO IF IF SHE HAD, I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK IF SHE HAD DONE AN INTERNAL COMPLAINT, AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATED THAT, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. I'M SURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED. I JUST DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF IT. I, AND I LIKE, I MEAN, I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT ANYWAY. I MEAN, IF SHE'S CLAIMING FROM 2018, SEVEN YEARS AGO, 2015. YEAH. IF YOU GO BACK. NO, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH. WHAT I WOULD APPRECIATE, LEE, IS, IS IF YOU WOULD LOOK INTO IT AND THEN GIVE US, GIVE US KIND OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND POTENTIALLY EVEN PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND BE HERE IF SHE DID HAVE A COMMENT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. ROD PETERSON. I'LL BE BACK. YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON.

EVENING. ROD PETERSON, 721 CENTRAL AVENUE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SIR. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR RICH. I MEAN, COMMISSIONER RICH, SPEAKING ABOUT EAST STUART DRAINAGE AND THE STATEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE DEALING WITH CALTECH. I SPOKE WITH MR. MILTON BRIEFLY, JUST FOR JUST TO COLLABORATE WITH HIM, DEALING WITH THE PIPING SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING ORCHESTRATED TO BE PUT IN TO GO SOUTH INTO THIS COMMUNITY. I HAVE A VIDEO. AND OVER 13 YEARS I HAVE SEEN THIS DRAINAGE ON THE WEST END OF THIS COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS DRAINING. BUT MOST OF THIS COMMUNITY AND STATEMENT FROM BALBOA DOWN TO. HIGH SCHOOL AVENUE, IT'S GOING TO BE DRAINING TOWARDS TURNER MEMORIAL POND. AND I GUESS THAT SUPPOSED TO DRAG OVER TO BAY.

YOU THEN COME TOWARDS EAST AVENUE DOWN TO CENTRAL, BUT WE ARE ALREADY GETTING FLOODED ON THAT AREA. WELL OVER 30 YEARS THAT I KNOW OF 40 YEARS. HAVE A VIDEO HERE SHOWING HIS PRACTICALLY AT MY BACK DOOR. THE POND BREACHES BREACHES OVER THE EMBANKMENT. SO IT'S ABOUT AWARENESS AND AND CONCERN ABOUT THE DRAINAGE COMING SOUTH IN THIS COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF GOING TOWARDS THE RIVER OVER HERE. SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF AWARENESS THAT WE CAN COME UP THIS DEALING WITH THE DRAINAGE? THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE OVER THERE? YES. MR. MILTON SAY HE'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK INTO IT. WE GET TOGETHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S IT'S ABOUT AWARENESS AND.

CONCERNS OF DRAINAGE BECAUSE WE ALREADY GETTING A LOT OF DRAINAGE OVERFLOWS TO OUR BACK DOORS. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. YOU WANT TO CHIME IN? I THOUGHT, NO HE DOESN'T I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU YET TODAY. COME ON. MILTON LEGGETT, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR I SPOKE WITH ROB ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES AGO, AND WE PLAN TO MEET WITH CAP TECH ALONG WITH PANELS PROJECT TO SEE WHAT DIRECTION THE WATERS CAN BE FLOWING AND ALL THAT. ROSS GOING TO SEND ME A COPY OF HIS VIDEO AND WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM THERE AND I'LL KEEP THE COMMISSION INFORMED ALONG WITH THE MANAGER. THANK YOU MILTON. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

CANDICE CALLAHAN. HELLO, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR COLLINS, VICE MAYOR REED, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH, FOR YOUR SERVICE AS MAYOR.

CANDICE CALLAHAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR STEWART MAIN STREET, HERE TO TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT OUR LAST FEW EVENTS WE'VE HAD SINCE LAST MEETING. WE'VE HAD FOUR. SO WE'VE BEEN VERY,

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VERY BUSY. WE DID HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL TREE LIGHTING EVENT, BUT PART OF THAT SUCCESS IS DUE TO OUR SPONSORS. AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AND EXPECTED TO GROW OUR SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM COMMUNITY BUSINESSES. AND FPL WAS ONE OF THOSE. THEY HAD DOUBLED THEIR SUPPORT FOR OUR EVENT THIS YEAR, ALLOWING US TO ADD MORE ACTIVITIES AND INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT EVENT TO ALLOW MORE SPACE FOR ALL OF OUR THOUSANDS OF ATTENDEES THAT COME. SO OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR ANY MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISCOMMUNICATION, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS MOVING FORWARD. I WILL DEFINITELY TALK TO MY COMMITTEE AND BOARD ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE DID GET A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE TRADITIONAL PATH THAT IT HAD BEEN ON, AND THEN WE SAW THIS AGAIN AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE FPL SUPPORT. SO WE DO APOLOGIZE, BUT I HOPE YOU REALIZE THAT IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT ALL THE MEDIA WAS THERE DOING LIVE FOOTAGE OF IT.

SO THE TREE IS LIT. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. EVERYONE COME AND SEE IT. TAKE YOUR PICTURES AND TAG US IN THEM PLEASE. HUGE THANKS TO MILTON AGAIN IN THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM FOR ALL OF THE ALL OF THEIR ASSISTANCE IN MAKING THAT EVENT A SUCCESS. THE FOLLOWING DAY WE HAD SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY WHERE I WAS OUT WELCOMING AND GREETING EVERYBODY IN OUR DOWNTOWN, THANKING THEM FOR SHOPPING SMALL. WE HELD A LITTLE RAFFLE FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT SHOPPED AND DINED THAT DAY. WE HAD FIVE WINNERS. SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS RUNNING THROUGH MY NOTES. THEN WE HAD JUST THIS PAST THURSDAY. WE HAD OUR WINTER STROLL EVENT. THAT EVENT INCREASES EVERY YEAR. WE HAD 340 ATTENDEES DOWN HERE SUPPORTING OUR SMALL BUSINESS IN ONE NIGHT, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. GIVING KUDOS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR FRIENDS AT THE VISITING NURSES ASSOCIATION FOR AGAIN HOSTING A WONDERFUL, FABULOUS PARADE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. HUGE THANKS TO OUR STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF FOR KEEPING ALL OF YOU AND EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDED SAFE. AND OF COURSE, STUART FIRE AS WELL. I KNOW THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING LISTENING. AND THEN ON SATURDAY, WE JUST PARTNERED WITH THE MARINE INDUSTRIES FOR OUR FIRST ANNUAL BOAT WATCH, OUR BOAT PARADE PARTY. IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH THEM AGAIN. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VENUE ON THE WATER, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE SUCCESS OF OUR PARTNERSHIP. HUGE THANKS TO JESSICA THARP AND HER TEAM WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR PARTNERING WITH US ON THAT AND PROVIDING SOME GREAT ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDDOS. THEY REALLY ENJOYED THAT. THIS WEEK WE WELCOME ON DECEMBER 12TH, THE MARTIN COUNTY REALTORS ASSOCIATION. THEY'LL BE HAVING THEIR OPENING NIGHT FOR SANTAS CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, WHERE I WILL BE A GUEST JUDGE. I'M HAPPY TO REPRESENT OUR DOWNTOWN. I CANNOT BE BOUGHT JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. PERFECT TIMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, CANDICE. MICHELLE SMITH.

SO THE ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP AGAIN IS I LOVE THIS TOWN. I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT I ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BOUGHT VERSUS RENTING WAS BECAUSE BRIGHTLINE WAS COMING THROUGH. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED AND I'M HOPING THAT SOMETHING CAN BE RESOLVED BECAUSE I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THERE WAS HUNDREDS OF US IN THIS ROOM OUT THERE WANTING BRIGHTLINE, AND I DON'T FEEL THE CITIZENS WERE LISTENED TO. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY COMPLAINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ALSO THAT I WANTED JUST TO THANK YOU ALL WHEN I DID NOT GO TO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M A MARINE CORPS VETERAN WHO HAS PTSD, SO SOMETIMES LOUD CROWDS AREN'T FOR ME, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT I AM SO PROUD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHEN I READ IT, I WAS JUST I WAS THERE WHEN PRESIDENT REAGAN GOT SHOT. I WAS ON THAT CEREMONIAL DUTIES. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE SCARY THAT IT CAME THIS CLOSE. BUT I THINK EVERY SINGLE POLICE OFFICER DOES AMAZING JOB. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS AND IT JUST HAPPENED BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS TALKING VERY, VERY PERSONAL STUFF IN HERE. I WOULD INVITE YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT AND LADIES, SORRY, I JUST SAY GUYS ALL THE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT IF SOMEBODY IS GETTING PERSONAL AND TALKS ABOUT ASSAULTS, TALKS SUCH PERSONAL STUFF THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT IN A CLOSED ROOM. IT IS TRIGGERING. IT'S AND IT'S UNCALLED FOR IN MY OPINION. I FEEL BAD FOR HER.

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BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HEAR SUCH GRAPHIC DETAILS. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, I WISH HER WELL. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SHE'S STILL IN THE ROOM, BUT WHAT, THREE MINUTES? WELL, I'M GLAD YOU FEEL LIKE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU AND I WANT TO TALK LATER ON AND I CAN TELL YOU, WE CAN'T BE ARGUING. PLEASE, FOLKS, COMMENTS UP THIS WAY. SO ANYWAY, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS I VOLUNTEER IN VETERANS COURT IN FORT PIERCE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN I FIRST MOVED DOWN HERE. IF WE CAN GET MARTIN COUNTY COURT, AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO DO VETERANS COURT. IT'S AMAZING. IT HAS SUCH WONDERFUL POSITIVE OUTCOMES AND ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. I'D BE VERY GLAD TO TALK TO YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. WILLIAM RUDGE CHRIS. NAME AND ADDRESS. AND THEY START SPEAKING. AND I WAS JUST REMINDED, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE IF ALL OF US WOULD MENTION OUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING. I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT TO YOU, JUST GENERALLY, WILLIAM RUDGE, 1701 SOUTHWEST PALM CITY ROAD, STUART, FLORIDA. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO MAYOR COLLINS AND VICE MAYOR REED. THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE THINK I MAY BE INTOXICATED WHILE I'M UP HERE. MY SPEECH HAS BEEN IMPEDED BY A STROKE I HAD TWO YEARS AGO. SO NOW THAT WE GOT THAT ALL CLEARED, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING. MAYOR COLLINS, AGAIN, LET ME THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR FINE CITY. I SENT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THE EXACT INQUIRY AT THE SAME TIME ON THE CITY'S WEB FORM THAT I SENT YOU, AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE TO TAKE ME SERIOUS ENOUGH TO EVEN RESPOND. IT'S HEARTWARMING TO KNOW THAT IN AMERICA, WHEN YOU ADDRESS YOUR GRIEVANCES TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, A VERITABLE PILLAR OF OUR REPUBLIC FOR OVER 250 YEARS, YOU JUST GET SUMMARILY IGNORED. SO I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING THE SOLE RESPONSE. MR. MAYOR, DO YOU REMEMBER OUR DECEMBER 2ND CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH, A COPY OF WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS? YOU ASKED, AMONG OTHER THINGS. THANK YOU.

WILLIAM, WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIONS ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE COMMISSION TO TAKE RELATIVE TO THESE ALLEGATIONS? AND YOU ALSO ASKED FURTHER, CAN YOU GIVE ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND TO WHAT END? IN AN ANSWER TO THOSE VALID AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'VE ALSO PROVIDED A COPY OF THE RECENTLY FILED TEN THREE 2025 11TH CIRCUIT APPEALS COURT PETITION, PAGES SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE FOR THE REQUESTED NAMES, TIMES, AND INCIDENTS TO BE INVESTIGATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED DILIGENCE IN THIS MATTER AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL. THANK YOU. BETTY BRINKLEY. GOOD EVENING. DAVID BRINKLEY 945 SOUTHEAST NASSAU AVENUE, EAST STUART. AND I'M HERE ABOUT THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR MY BABY, WHO I CAN'T NEVER GET OVER WITH. I'M STILL TWO YEARS.

BUT ANYWAY, ABOUT YOU RULE ABOUT THE CEMETERY TO BLACK PEOPLE THAT WE. YOU HAVE A SPECIAL RULE. ONLY ONE THAT HAVE THE SPECIAL RULE ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HEADSTONE. I KNOW PEOPLE AT FIRM BEEN THERE 11 YEARS. DOESN'T HAPPEN. I DON'T TEND TO DO THAT TO MY SON. I JUST CAN'T GO TO THE GRAVEYARD. I CAN'T PUT FLOWERS ON HIM. I HAVE SOMEBODY TO GO PUT FLOWERS ON HIS SCREEN. BUT HE. THAT'S NOT WHAT. OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE. BUT ANYWAY, I'M TATO TALS EAST STUART FOR YOU DON'T OPEN UP EAST STUART TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY COME IN IN OUR COMMUNITY STRUGGLING PEOPLE. AND I'M IN FEAR OF MY KID, MY BLACK KIDS BEING TAKEN. WE HAVE A CAR COME THERE EVERY MORNING. I BE STANDING OUTSIDE TALKING TO MY FRIEND WHEN SHE WENT FOR HER GRANDSON TO GET ON THE BUS, COME FROM PALM BEACH ROAD.

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THERE'S A LOUD FOURTH GRADE CAR SPEEDING ON MY STREET. MAKE A LEFT ON ON CHURCH STREET EVERY MORNING. HE WOULD DO THAT EXCEPT FOR FRIDAY AND TODAY I SEE HIM TODAY. THEN YOU HAVE THE WHITE BOYS COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TAUNTING THE BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD. WE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC SPEEDING DOWN, MARTIN LUTHER KING, SPEEDING DOWN 10TH STREET IN THE HEART OF THE STUART, WHERE KIDS ARE CROSSING THE STREET TO GET TO THEIR HOUSE OR TO THE REC. YOU GOT ALL THIS TRAFFIC, YOU OPENING IT UP, YOU STOOD TO OTHER COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN'T GO. NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY. WHITE WHATEVER IN HERE. I LOVE YOU ALL. IF YOU DON'T LOVE ME, GOD KNOWS I LOVE YOU. ALL I DO, I DO BECAUSE THAT'S MY MY GOD.

SAY LOVE YOUR ENEMIES AND YOU OPEN UP. YOU STOOD UP TO THESE KIND OF PEOPLE. AND I NEVER WAS AFRAID OF A FIVE YEAR OLD WALKING BY HIMSELF. AND I SEE ALL THESE DIFFERENT. NOTHING AGAINST THEM. THEY MIGHT NOT BE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THESE STRANGE PEOPLE COMING IN HERE.

YOU DON'T OPEN UP EASTWOOD TO THEM. AND I WONDER WHY YOU OPENING UP THESE STUART LIKE THAT TO ALL KIND OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT. THE TRAFFIC IS THEY SPEEDING DOWN 10TH STREET. THEY REALLY SPEEDING DOWN MARTIN LUTHER KING AND WHOEVER THE WHERE THE CHIEF SAID HE NEED TO CHECK PUT HIS MEN'S IN CHECK. THEY DOING MORE ARREST SPEEDING THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE. HE NEED TO PUT HIS PEOPLE IN CHECK CUZ THEY DOING A LOT OF SPEEDING IN THE DOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I'VE GOT I'M GOING TO LET Y'ALL GO BECAUSE I DON'T FORGOT LOST MY THOUGHT. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD ONE. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SO I'M SURE MR. HURTADO WAS LISTENING TO THAT WITH REGARD TO SPEEDING AND MAKING SURE WE GET A PATROL CAR OUT THERE. BEYOND THAT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TALKING WITH MR. BRINKLEY, IF THERE IS A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVEN'T WE? WE HAVE DONE A RECENT UPTICK OF WATCHING AND TICKETING DRIVERS WHO. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE TICKETING SPEEDERS. SO IF YOU GUYS NEED A PLACE TO GO TO GET SOME MORE TICKETS, NEW ROAD TO PATROL. ROBIN CARTWRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT ITEM 15, THE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION THAT YOU OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF NOT, I WILL MAKE MY COMMENT NOW. I'M HAPPY TO OPEN THAT UP FOR. GREAT. THEN THIS WILL TAKE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME. OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THE STEWART POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT MAINLY THE STEWART POLICE DEPARTMENT. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I GOT ANOTHER FUN DEATH THREAT. THIS ONE WAS STATED THAT THEY HOPE THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE WITH THE HOA IN PORT SAINT LUCIE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT ANONYMOUS ACCOUNTS, SOME NOT SO ANONYMOUS, WHO DON'T LIKE MY OPINION ON SOMETHING OR ANYBODY ELSE'S OPINION ON SOMETHING. I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THIS IS HAPPENING TO. I'M JUST THE ONLY ONE WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ME AT THIS MOMENT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY FRIGHTENING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE THAT AND TO FOLLOW IT UP WITH ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I HAVE TO SCREENSHOT BLOCK, BECAUSE I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH. SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED MORE CIVILITY AND WE NEED BETTER DISCOURSE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE NEED BETTER DISCOURSE. WE NEED BETTER CIVILITY. NOTHING THAT I PUT ONLINE IS UP THERE FOR DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS THAT ARE DEATH THREATS, THEY'RE NOT TO BE TOLERATED.

THEY WERE REPORTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'LL PROBABLY GET A CALL TOMORROW SAYING, PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT HINDERS AN INVESTIGATION. BUT I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR THEIR RESPONSIVENESS. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALSO RESPONDED, BUT STEWART RESPONDED FIRST, SO I WENT WITH THEM. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT TO CALL AND TO MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT. I HOPE THERE'S A POSITIVE OUTCOME TO IT, BUT IT IS COMPLETELY INTOLERABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE THAT WE ALLOW THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR WHERE PEOPLE MAKE THESE KIND OF COMMENTS. NOBODY SHOULD BE IN FEAR. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A FIRING RANGE WHEN I'M SO ANTI-GUN WITH MY HUSBAND TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO SHOOT A GUN. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO PUT CAMERAS UP. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE WHOLE CANTER KPD DEBATE, BUT THIS ONE WAS ESPECIALLY EGREGIOUS AND ESPECIALLY PERSONAL. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE STEWART POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR SERVING. AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STEWART. NOW, AT THIS POINT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUBLICLY DENOUNCE ANY THREATS OF VIOLENCE, ANY DEATH THREATS, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL ATTACKS LIKE THIS IS CONTENTIOUS AS WE GET ABOUT POLICY. I HOPE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SPEAKING TO ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, BUT, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE THAT WE REMEMBER WE'RE

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ALL NEIGHBORS. AND FACEBOOK CAN BE A DANGEROUS PLACE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S EVEN A REAL PERSON. BUT I'M THANKFUL FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY CAN INVESTIGATE THESE KINDS OF THINGS, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL. SO THANK YOU. ROBERT STANKOVICH.

AGAIN. WHAT THE HELL THAT WAS. I'M NOT READY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. KAREN HALL OKAY. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THAT. OKAY.

THIS ACTUALLY DOVETAILS WITH THAT ROBIN CARTWRIGHT BECAUSE I, I SENT THIS I EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE A COPY AND THEN I HAD A COPY TO THE CLERK. AND THEN I HAVE A COPY FOR CHIEF XIE AND THEN A COPY FOR YOUR ATTORNEY. SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS CASE THAT'S STILL PENDING, BECAUSE YOU GUYS PUT IN AN ANSWER IN MAY. A LOT OF FALSEHOODS IN IT. AND I KNOW YOU EACH DIDN'T WRITE IT, BUT YOUR ATTORNEY WROTE IT. COREY LEHNINGER. SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY PUT IN COURT WHEN THEY LIE TO THE COURT AND DEFRAUD THE COURT IN MAY 7TH OF 2025. YOU FIVE ARE RESPONSIBLE ANYWAY. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, LET'S READ THIS THING. I HAD A DISTURBING PHONE CALL ON NOVEMBER 26TH AT 10:10 A.M. FROM A PORT SAINT LUCIE DETECTIVE. APPARENTLY, DETECTIVE JACOBSON, IN THE CITY OF STUART. POLICE MADE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THREATENING EMAILS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING, AND HE GAVE MY NAME AS A POSSIBLE CULPRIT. SUSPECT LOL OH WELL. OH WELL. OH WELL. IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THERE IS A TIME TO BE QUIET AND THERE'S A TIME TO SPEAK UP. I SPOKE UP AND INFORMED HER THAT DETECTIVE JACOBSON BRUISED ME AND KIDNAPED ME UNLAWFULLY IN A SEPARATE OLD CAPTAIN'S TRUCK INSTEAD OF A CAR HE DROVE IN WITH AT 508 ON MAY 22ND, 2024.

WEIRD JACK FRIZZELL, MY PD, WHO HAD TO HELP ME IN THE 19TH, SAID THAT JACOBSON TURNED A CIVIL MATTER INTO A CRIMINAL MATTER JUST TO ARREST ME. ON MAY 22ND, 2024, JACOBSON IS ALREADY ON THE CERTIFICATE OF INTERESTED PERSONS IN THE FEDERAL COURT NUMBER 28. I ASKED THE DETECTIVE, WHY WOULD I SEND HIM A THREATENING EMAIL OR WHATEVER WHEN I COULD SUE HIM LEGITIMATELY? HE HAS A LOT OF NERVE TO GIVE MY NAME TO A PORT SAINT LUCIE DETECTIVE, WHEN I COULD HAVE ALREADY SUED HIM AND THE CITY DEAD TO RIGHTS. AND THEN I TOLD HER, I DON'T SUE LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO THAT'S IT. WE DID END HER PHONE CALL WITH ME SAYING, I HOPE YOU WRITE THIS IN YOUR REPORT. JACOBSON IS JUST A BAD APPLE THAT MAKES OTHER GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE CITY OF STUART LOOK BAD. SO WHY IS A STUART DETECTIVE MAKING COMPLAINTS ABOUT ME IN PORT SAINT LUCIE? LAW ENFORCEMENT. I DON'T LIKE IT. SOMEBODY ASKED CHIEF C, QUIT MESSING WITH ME. I FOLLOW THE LAW. I'M TIRED OF IT. JEEPERS, YOU GUYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. SOMEBODY FIND OUT WHY JACOBSON IS DOING THIS. ROBERT STANKOVIC. I HAVE A HAND OUT. LET'S GET REAL QUICK. THIS IS FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S. IF YOU WOULD BRING IT TO THE CLERK, THE CLERK SHALL PASS IT OUT. THANK YOU SIR.

YEAH, THERE'S ONE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. WELL, THANK YOU, JOE LEE DOES THE DELIVERY.

YEAH. NO ONE FOR YOU. OH. IT'S ROBERT SANKOVICH, ONE TWO, FIVE ONE SOUTHWEST NORTON'S LANE.

BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS THAT PAUL NICOLETTI. HE HE SHOULDN'T BE MAGISTRATE. HE WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR SIX YEARS AS AN ATTORNEY AND SIX YEARS AS THE MANAGER. SO BECAUSE OF THAT,

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HE'S IMPARTIAL. SO BY THE CONSTITUTION, HE CAN'T BE SITTING AS MAGISTRATE, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. SO LAST YEAR I SENT AN EMAIL FOR TO THE MAYOR AND TO LEE, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM ABOUT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. YOU CAN'T ADJUDICATE FINES. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IMPARTIAL. SO BUT NOTHING HAPPENED OF IT. SO BUT WHAT THIS LETTER IS, IS THIS IT'S JUST AS OF 2026, IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU'RE AN ENABLER. YOU'RE ENABLING THIS TO HAPPEN. SO. I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT THAT YOU GUYS ARE LETTING THIS HAPPEN AND IT'S CONTINUING TO HAPPEN. SO ANYTHING THAT THE MAGISTRATE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING HE DECIDES IS INVALID. AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS PLAN TO DO ABOUT IT. IS THAT ALL. YEAH. IS THAT ALL YOUR COMMENT? WELL, I WAS JUST WONDERING, I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M LIKE IN A STALEMATE ABOUT MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S 80% BUILT. AND THANK GOODNESS MR. MERTEL IS NO LONGER HERE BECAUSE HE'S A COMPULSIVE LIAR. SO. AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE, THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT HE PRODUCED MORTEL WAS, WAS FALSE. SO ANYTHING ANY OF THE REPORTS YOU GUYS WERE GETTING WERE INCORRECT. SO IT MADE ME LOOK LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A TERRIBLE PERSON. SO BUT BUT I'M IN A STALEMATE WITH MY HOUSE. I MEAN, OKAY, I HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S 80% DONE AND I CAN'T FINISH IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MISTER SANKOVICH. NO, WE DON'T DO ANY. WE TRY NOT TO RESPOND BACK AND FORTH TO YOU. OH, BUT THE THE RESPONSE THAT I WANT TO TO GIVE WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE UP UNDER ANOTHER ITEM, ANOTHER DAY UNDER DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. BUT WITH REGARD TO THAT, MR. MAYOR AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT MR. STANKOVIC HAS A POINT, BUT HE KIND OF DOES IN THAT WE ARE MAGISTRATE IS SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENT. THEY MAKE THEIR DECISIONS, THEY MAKE THEIR RULING AND THEY SEND IT OUT AND PEOPLE RESPOND TO IT.

AND WE DON'T REALLY SEE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAGISTRATE DOES AND, AND HAVE LIKE A FINAL THING ABOUT IT, THEY JUST FOLLOW THE POLICIES AND WE EXPECT THAT THEY FOLLOW THE POLICIES. WE HAVE A NEW MAYOR, MAYBE MR. LEE, MR. BAGGETT, OR IF THE COMMISSION AGREES OR LOOKS AT THIS, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF A QUARTERLY REPORT THING FROM OUR MAGISTRATE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE NEED TO KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW THINGS ARE GOING. POSSIBLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ON OUR LEVEL. AND THEN THE OTHER LEVEL IS, WELL, I THINK WE HAVE ONE MAGISTRATE AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY WHO'S ALSO AN ALTERNATE MAGISTRATE. AND SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM OUR HOW THE CITY RUNS AND THE CASES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D NEED TO TAKE UP WHEN WE HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO SOMETHING AND BRING IT BACK TO US. OKAY. YEAH. BUT YOUR PARTICULAR THING THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING, WE DON'T DELIBERATE THAT HERE. RIGHT? SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT STAFF WANTS TO REPORT TO OR HAS TO REPORT TO US ON YOUR THING. BUT THE IDEA OF WHAT THE MAGISTRATE DOES, WHICH LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PURVIEW OVER. THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A CERTAIN RULE BY STATUTE AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT. OKAY. HAS HAS PAUL SEEN HIS CASE WORK? WHERE IS IT AT? YEAH, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T PREPARED FOR THIS. YEAH, RIGHT. THE MAGISTRATE HAS SEEN HIS CASE A COUPLE OF TIMES. MULTIPLE TIMES. YOU HAVE SEEN HIS CASE. HE HAS BROUGHT HIS FINES BEFORE YOU. WE HAD A HEARING WELL OVER A YEAR AGO. AND YOU WERE GIVING HIM UNTIL JULY OF THIS YEAR TO FINISH THE THE PERMIT, FINISH THE HOUSE. AND. NO, NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AND I'M FALLING BEHIND. BUT YOUR INSTRUCTION, IF HE DOESN'T MEET THAT DEADLINE, I'M TO FORECLOSE ON THESE LOANS. SO THESE I DON'T I'M NOT FINISHED. I, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT

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YOU'VE ALREADY HAD THE FINE ISSUE COME BEFORE YOU. YOU'VE SEEN THE FACTS. YOU GUYS ACTUALLY HAD AN YOU LISTENED TO HIM STATE HIS CASE. AND, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE. I CAN FIND THE DATE THAT YOU GUYS HAD HIM COME BEFORE US. AND I THINK THAT HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT'S BEEN A WHILE AT THIS POINT, BUT HE'S NOT MET ANY OF THE DEADLINES. AND AS HE SAID, HE'S 80% DONE AND HE'S STILL NOT COMPLETE. AND AND I'VE MET WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS LAST WEEK, SHE WAS COMPLAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL THERE AND NOTHING'S BEING DONE. SO I'M CONSTANTLY REMINDED BY HIS NEIGHBORS OR NEIGHBOR, SO CAN I SPEAK THIS? THIS HAS BEEN ALREADY BEFORE YOU. SO I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND I HAVE. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION WITH YOUR INSTRUCTIONS AND FINDINGS. LAST YEAR I COULD NOT GET A BUILDING PERMIT. THEY WOULD NOT ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FINISH A DAMN HOUSE IF I CAN'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT? EVEN MISS NICOLETTI SAID THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, THE LAST MAGISTRATE HEARING.

HOW? HOW IS HE GOING TO FINISH THE HOUSE IF HE DOESN'T HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT? HOW CAN I FINISH A HOUSE WITHOUT A BUILDING PERMIT? AND YOU HAVE A PERMIT AT THIS POINT? NO. WHY? BECAUSE MR. MORTEL STOPPED IT. HE PUT A STOP ORDER ON IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS OF MINE LIED THAT I WAS CHOPPING DOWN MANGROVE TREES, WHICH WAS NOT TRUE. SO THAT STARTED THIS WHOLE BIG THING. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, I HAD $150,000 IN FINES, AND NOW I HAVE $400,000 IN FINES. AND HE WANTS TO FORECLOSE ON ME. BUT IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE MINUTES, I MEAN, I DID EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING. YOU THE BOARD HAS INSTRUCTED ME TO FORECLOSE. IF HE'S NOT DONE BY JULY LAST SUMMER, I'LL BE HONEST. I'VE BEEN. IT'S I, I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO IT. IT'S NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO IT. SO HE'S BENEFITED FOR MORE TIME. BUT THERE'S A RESOLUTION SAYING THAT I NEED TO FORECLOSE ON THE LIENS. WE'VE HASHED THIS OUT IN THE PAST ALREADY, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. WE SHOULDN'T BE. THAT'S RIGHT. HASHING IT OUT NOW, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY HASHED IT OUT. I BELIEVE HE'S COME BEFORE YOU TWICE. AND WE SPENT TIME I THINK HE HAD A SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE AT PUBLIC COMMENT TO GO THROUGH THIS AT THIS POINT AND ASKING QUESTIONS. I'M UP AGAINST A WALL. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I MEAN, ALL THE FINES, THEY'RE INVALID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IMPARTIAL.

YOU CAN'T ADJUDICATE FINES BASED OFF OF THAT. I'D HAVE TO GO TO COURT OVER THAT. I NEED A BUILDING PERMIT. I JUST NEED A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE HOUSE. I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THE ATTORNEY. NOT HERE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. OKAY, SO I, I OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF GRACE HERE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A DAD. YOU KNOW. WHAT'S THAT? I KNOW THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO, THOUGH, IS FORECLOSE ON SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AND TAKE THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S TO ME, THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING YOU COULD DO TO SOMEBODY. IT'S HORRIBLE. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO JUST AGAIN, OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF GRACE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THIS JUST BECAUSE THIS IS HIS PROPERTY. I'M HAPPY TO WAIT IF IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO WAIT. IF IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. NO, I I'M NOT IN A POSITION. I'M NOT FILING ANYTHING IMMEDIATELY NOW, BUT I AGAIN, IT'S BEEN ON THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT I'M NOT GETTING TO IT. WHEN YOU GUYS INSTRUCTED ME TO IF IT IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, I MAY BE TAKING ONE MORE LOOK AT THIS, SEEING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS WORK SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FORECLOSE ON HIS HOUSE. WELL, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A DAD, IT SHOULD HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM. AND IT SHOULD HAVE DETAILS AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, AND WHAT HIS EFFORTS ARE TO DO IT. UP TO THIS POINT, WHAT CONSTITUTES AN 80% COMPLETE AND IF THERE'S ANY RELATED VIOLATIONS WITH REGARD TO THE MANGROVES OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO HAVE IT AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT SERIOUSLY.

AND THIS DOESN'T BECOME A KANGAROO COURT, CORRECT? COMMISSIONER. RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. YOU WERE HERE FOR I KNOW HE CAME BEFORE US AND IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS. AND ANY COMMENT WE MAKE REGARDING THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE. HE'S THREATENING TO SUE US, ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN PUBLIC. WE MADE A DECISION.

MR. I'VE BEEN MAD AT MR. BAGGETT BECAUSE OUR ORIGINAL DEADLINE WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO.

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YEAH. JULY. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE SHOULD NOT BE LITIGATING THIS. HE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING STATEMENTS. WE SHOULD NOT BE REBUTTING THEM. THE BASIC RULE IS WHEN WE'RE THREATENING BE SUED. COMMISSIONERS DON'T GET INVOLVED ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD, OF THE ATTORNEY, IS THERE A FORMAL APPEALS PROCESS? IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE JUDGMENT MADE BY THE MAGISTRATE? YES. YEAH.

YEAH. I MEAN, THERE IS, BUT HE'S NOT FOLLOWED IT. BUT AND THERE'S NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING THERE IS THE COURT. THERE IS. IT'S THE MAGISTRATE. LIKE IN ANY LEGAL DECISION, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL IT IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT. SO YOU'RE CORRECT. WE DO NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE MAGISTRATE'S DECISION, BUT THEY ARE NOT FORECLOSED FROM SEEKING JUSTICE IF THEY FEEL THEY HAVE NOT BEEN, YOU KNOW, DULY SERVED. SO I HAVE NO INTEREST IN BRINGING THIS BACK.

I THINK MR. BAGGETT HAS BEEN BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO ACCOMMODATE MR. STANKOVIC. WAS THIS A PREVIOUS LIGHT OR A CURRENT LIGHT? YOU. AND THEN DID YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK WHAT AGENDA YOU WOULD WANT THIS ON. YEAH. SHADE MEETING. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS CONSENSUS OUT OF THE SHADE DEAL. COULDN'T BE. WHAT WHAT IS IT WE'RE SUPPORTING? YEAH OKAY. WHAT ARE WE SUPPORTING? I DIDN'T PRE-LITIGATION ABOUT THIS. YES.

DIRECTION TO ME OF WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS A D AND D ITEM.

NO, I KNEW THAT. I JUST WASN'T SURE. BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW ITEMS. I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT. IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ON THE DAIS. IT HAS BEEN VOTED ON IN NAUSEAM AND EXTENSIONS WERE GIVEN. SO I JUST THINK THAT TO BRING IT BACK IS NOT NECESSARY. OKAY. I THINK THAT A MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEY AND MAYBE SOME DETAILED INFORMATION MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL IF HE NEEDS AN EXTENSION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEY CAN WORK THAT OUT GETTING AN EXTENSION. HE'S GOT AN EXTENSIVE EXTENSIONS. OKAY.

MISS, CAN I SPEAK? THAT'S THAT'S WE REALLY GOTTA WRAP IT UP AND MOVE ON. YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE. I'M SORRY. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT LITIGATING THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? OKAY. NO, IT'S JUST MR. MARTEL, I KNOW MISINFORMED ALL YOU GUYS. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MISTER SANKOVICH. THANK YOU.

THANKS. AND I WANT TO FINISH THE HOUSE. I MEAN, I'M DYING TO FINISH OUT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. NO MORE, NO MORE. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ]

CALENDAR? CALENDAR PULLING ITEM SEVEN. BOTH APPROVAL AND WE'RE PULLING. WHICH ONE ARE WE PULLING? ITEM SEVEN. RIGHT. DISCUSSION. OKAY, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER JOB. YES. MAYOR. COLLINS. YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES.

[7. JORDAN CONNORS GROUP, INC. LOBBYING SERVICES CONTRACT (RC): RESOLUTION No. 112-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA WAIVING THE COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCESS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR LOBBYING SERVICES WITH THE JORDAN CONNORS GROUP, INC. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $75,000.00 PER YEAR; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. RESOLUTION NUMBER 112 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, WAVING THE COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCESS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR LOBBYING SERVICES WITH JORDAN CONNORS GROUP, INC. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $75,000 PER YEAR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AS AN INTRODUCTION IN SECTION 17 OF THE, WHICH IS LABELED SINGLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT OF THE CITY'S UPDATED PROCUREMENT POLICY. A CONTRACT MAY BE AWARDED WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SELECTION WHEN IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE VENDOR HAS UNIQUE HISTORICAL INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE, WHICH WILL PROVIDE A CONTINUITY OF SERVICE NOT AVAILABLE FROM ANY OTHER VENDOR. IT. IN A PRIOR RENEWAL OF THIS CONTRACT BACK IN 1998 VIA RESOLUTION 98 2023, THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY WAIVED THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION, SOLICITATION, SOLICITATION PROCESS AND AWARDING LOBBYING SERVICE TO JORDAN CONNORS GROUP. IN THAT LAST TERM OF THE CONTRACT, IT WENT FROM OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH OF 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. ALTHOUGH HE. ALTHOUGH THIS CONTRACT HAD ENDED, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO USE HIM ON FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE'RE SEEKING STAFF, HAS STAFF AND MR. I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT MR. CONNOR IS HERE AND HE COULD HE'S AVAILABLE FOR

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ANY QUESTIONS AND I THINK ALSO STAFF JIM TROTSKY AND MISS GANDY WILL ALSO ARE ALSO AVAILABLE AND WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PEOPLE YOU'D WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OF IN REGARDS TO MR. CONNOR'S PREVIOUS WORK FOR THE CITY. ON LOBBYING ON OUR EFFORTS. A LOT OF IT PREDATED ME, SO BUT I'M I'M AWARE OF IT'S IN THE SEVEN FIGURE RANGE THAT HE'S BEEN SUCCESSFULLY GETTING MONIES FOR CERTAIN GRANTS FOR THE CITY, SOME OF THOSE STILL CURRENTLY WORKING ON. SO TO SWITCH OUT WITH A NEW LOBBYIST, IT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THAT THAT PROCUREMENT EXCEPTION IS THERE. OUR MANUAL ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO IT UP TO $75,000, WHICH THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY AWARDED. AND THAT WE'RE JUST CONTINUING THE CONTRACT FOR THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE FOR ONE YEAR AND ONE YEAR RENEWABLE, AND THEN WOULD COME BACK UP BEFORE THE BOARD IN TWO YEARS IF IT WANTED TO BE RENEWED AGAIN. AGAIN, MR. CONNORS IS HERE. AND THE TWO STAFF MEMBERS, MR. TROTSKY AND AND MISS GANDY, WOULD BE THE ONES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR MR. CONNORS? YEAH, I JUST I WANTED SOME INSIGHT, I GUESS, WHY I WANTED IT PULLED ON. ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE FOR THE CITY OF STUART. THANK YOU FOR COMING UP.

I, MR. CONNORS, I JUST GAVE THE VICE MAYOR THAT LIST OF ITEMS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE READING FROM THAT. I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE ELSE GETS A COPY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I AM JORDAN CONNORS. I HAVE PROUDLY SERVED AS THE LOBBYIST FOR THE CITY OF STUART SINCE 2018, AND WE'VE HAD SOME MANY SUCCESSES DURING MY TERM. AND I BELIEVE EVERY YEAR EXCEPT FOR ONE, WE HAD AN APPROPRIATION 1 OR 2 YEARS. WE DID GET VETOED ON OUR PROJECTS, BUT VETOES ARE PART OF THE PROCESS IN TALLAHASSEE, SO I AM I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. KOWALSKI ON THE APPROPRIATION THAT THE CITY PUT FORTH IN FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO ON THE HOUSE SIDE AND THE SENATE SIDE. I WILL BE IN TALLAHASSEE TOMORROW DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT. IF THE CONTRACT IS RENEWED, I ALSO THE SESSION WILL BEGIN. WE HAVE AN EARLY SESSION THIS YEAR IN JANUARY. A LOT OF ISSUES WILL BE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT THE BUDGET. PROPERTY TAX REFORM. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT HAVING REPRESENTATION IN TALLAHASSEE IS IS VITAL. IT REALLY IS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE THAT. I'M HERE TO ASK. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. CONNORS? I APPRECIATE WHAT HE'S DONE SO FAR. AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING MONEY IN THE POT COMING TO THIS AREA. I KNOW THAT ALL THE TIME. SOMETIMES OUR LOCAL PERSPECTIVES MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES, AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO ALIGN OURSELVES TO FIGHT FOR THOSE FUNDS, ESPECIALLY FOR THEM. BUT I THINK THAT KEEPING MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEIR INTERESTS IS STILL AT HOME AND THAT STUART IS A PART OF THAT HOME THAT NEEDS SOME OF THOSE FUNDS. AND THEY MAYBE YOU AND MR. CROSKEY CAN JUST TELL US ABOUT THE THE SHELTER PROPOSITION THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TO GET THE 10TH STREET RECREATION CENTER UPGRADED AND CERTIFIED AND THE PROPOSED FUNDING, HOW SOME OF THAT FUNDING. I KNOW THAT IT'S JUST A PROPOSAL. IT'S JUST AN IDEA. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. JIM KERR, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. SOMETHING THAT JORDAN DIDN'T MENTION THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF IS THAT THUS FAR, SINCE 2019, THE APPROPRIATIONS HAVE TOTAL $2,750,000 THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO COME BACK WITH. SO YOU'RE WORTH THE MONEY. SO IT'S A VERY GOOD INVESTMENT A GOOD DEAL. YEAH. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE HAVE $1 MILLION APPROPRIATION REQUEST IN FOR US TO BEING ABLE TO REDO THIS, REDO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT THE 10TH STREET CENTER SO THAT IT ACTUALLY DOUBLES AS A RECREATION CENTER, CIVIC CENTER, AS WELL AS A HURRICANE EVACUATION FACILITY THAT'S A HARDENED FACILITY FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY. THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT. THUS FAR, WE'VE BEEN USING JD PARKER AS A SHELTER, AND IT'S WE'RE SORT OF A SHELTER OF LAST RESORT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. IN

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PERSON. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU. AND AS I SPOKE WITH YOU BEFORE THE MEETING, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRE AND THEN RECAP MEETINGS SO WE CAN ALL SORT OF BRAINSTORM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO SOME EXTENT WE PUT YOU IN AN IMPOSSIBLE POSITION WHEN WE'RE AT ODDS WITH SOME OF THE POLICY THAT'S COMING FROM TALLAHASSEE. SO I'M THANKFUL FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND YOUR ABILITY TO LOBBY FOR THE RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE A LOBBYIST IN TALLAHASSEE. THAT'S THAT'S AN ASSET TO US. THEY CAN GET TO YOU AND LOBBY FOR THEM. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER CLARK IS OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR DELEGATION WRITE TO YOU. I'M SORRY, THE OUR OUR DELEGATION, WHO REPRESENTS OUR OUR SPONSORS, OUR PROJECTS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. SO THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE TEN, 20 APPROPRIATIONS. AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE UP THERE OR TEAM UP THERE THAT IS ADVOCATING JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY, AND THE PIE IS ONLY SO BIG, AND A LOT OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE GOING AFTER THE SAME DOLLARS, THE SAME PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S ROAD OR WATER OR COMMUNITY CENTER. IT HELPS TO HAVE SOMEONE ON THE GROUND. I'M THANKFUL FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST CYCLE, ANSWERING MY TEXTS AND GETTING BACK TO ME, YOU'VE HAD YOU'VE BEEN FANTASTIC. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER. YES, AS AS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO TRAVELS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS TO TRAVEL TO TALLAHASSEE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND I'M ABLE TO MEET WITH HIM. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY INVALUABLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, IT'S JUST A TOTAL WHIRLWIND. YOU'RE THERE FOR 24 HOURS OR 36 HOURS. OUR LEGISLATORS ARE BOMBARDED, AND HIS ADVICE AND HIS INSIGHT IS JUST ALLOWS ME TO SPEAK TO THOSE LEGISLATORS AND ARE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE OF EFFECTIVE MANNER. THE $500,000 WE WERE ABLE TO GET LAST YEAR THAT UNFORTUNATELY GOT PULLED, BUT IT WAS DELIVERED. THAT WAS THE RESULT OF HE AND I GOING OUT TO DINNER AND MEETING THE HEAD OF THAT FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHO WAS VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND HE, STUART, AND PROMISED THAT HE WOULD DELIVER THAT MONEY. AND HE DID. SO POLITICS CAN BE VERY PERSONAL. AND TO HAVE THIS PERSON WHO'S SO EXPERIENCED AND SO WELL RESPECTED WERE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HIM. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 112 2025? SO MOVED. I WAS HOPING TO MAKE A MOTION. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. SECOND IT OKAY, I WILL I WILL DEFER TO THE FORMER MAYOR.

MACON. MACON, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. SECOND. THERE WE GO. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? NO. SEEING NONE, I DO. I'LL SEE YOU. I'M GOING TO BE UP THERE. IT'S AN EARLY SESSION THIS YEAR. I HAVE TO GO UP TWICE UNFORTUNATELY. SO I'LL SEE. I THINK I'M UP THERE IN THE SECOND WEEK. JORDAN, DID YOU SAY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER JOB? YES. MAYOR COLLINS. YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. THANK

[8. FIRST AMENDMENT TO FEC REAL ESTATE LEASE (RC): RESOLUTION No. 90-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO REAL ESTATE LEASE BETWEEN FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, LLC AND THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA FOR ADDITIONAL LEASED RIGHT-OF-WAY SPACE FOR BEAUTIFICATION, PARKING, AND DRAINAGE RETENTION PURPOSES; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

YOU, THANK YOU. JORDAN. THANK YOU SIR. IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OF COMMISSION ACTION, FIRST AMENDMENT TO FEC REAL ESTATE LEASE. ALL RIGHT, LEE, YOU'RE UP. RESOLUTION 90 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO REAL ESTATE LEASE BETWEEN FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY, LLC AND THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR AN ADDITIONAL LEASE, RIGHT OF WAY SPACE FOR BEAUTIFICATION, PARKING, AND DRAINAGE RETENTION PURPOSES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. WE'VE HAD AT LEAST BETWEEN THE CITY AND FEC FOR SEVERAL YEARS, DECADES. AT THIS POINT, THE MOST RECENT BEING, I THINK, 2000, 2006 AND OCCASIONALLY, I GUESS, FEC DOES AUDITING OR REVIEWS OUTSTANDING LEASES TO CHECK INTO THEM TO SEE IF THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISED OR UPDATED.

AND THEY DID THAT THIS YEAR, AND THEY TOOK THE POSITION THAT WE WERE USING QUITE A BIT OF EXTRA SPACE WITHOUT BEING WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE LEASE, AND WE NEEDED TO ADD IT TO THE

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LEASE. IN ADDITION, THEY SAID THAT OUR LEASE AMOUNT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP TO VALUE IN ABOUT 20 YEARS, SO THEY WERE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE. I DON'T THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS I'LL LEAVE TO MR. BOGLIOLI TO CALCULATE THAT FOR YOU, BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, LIKE 300%, I THINK. YEAH, 313 313%. SO. ONE OF IT WAS LIKE I SAID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LEASE, THERE WERE TEN PARCELS. WE ADDED AN 11TH PARCEL. THAT'S THE AREA. AND THESE ARE AREAS ALONG THE RAIL RAILWAY THAT HAS PARKING. THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING, BEAUTIFICATION AND DRAINAGE THAT WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF AND WE'VE PUT IN APROPOS. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO. YOU KNOW, THE LEASE IS RENEWED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IT CAN BE TERMINATED 30 DAYS NOTICE FOR EITHER PARTY.

AND IT RENEWED IN NOVEMBER. SO WE'RE PAST THE DATE THAT IT RENEWED. AND THEY'RE ASKING TO HAVE THIS AMENDMENT. AND IT TOOK A WHILE FOR US TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE TODAY. BUT IT'S LATE BY A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS GOING TO ADD ON AN ADDITIONAL. TO OUR LEASE. YEAH. IT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. LIKE I SAID, THE SOME PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE THAT ALL THE PARKING ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS FEC PROPERTY AND WE HAVE TO PAY THEM TO PARK ALONG IT, INCLUDING ALL OF THOSE PARALLEL ANGLED PARKING THERE ALONG THE DOWNTOWN. SO THIS IS THE SECTION ALONG DIXIE. THEY'RE CORRECT. DIXIE. YEAH, THAT SECTION OVER THERE. SO IT'S ACROSS FROM AZUL, I GUESS. OR AND IT MAY IT BRINGS OUR TOTAL BILL FOR LEASE PARKING UP TO 160,000. NOW TO THE COMMISSIONER OR TO THE ATTORNEY'S POINT IN, IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ANNUAL ESCALATOR. AND THIS LEASE IS VERY, VERY FRIENDLY TO FEC BECAUSE THEY OWN EVERYTHING. AND SO THEY THEY'VE HAD THE OPTION OF INCREASING THE RATE ON US EACH YEAR OR THE LESSER THIS KIND OF THING. AND SO IN THIS CATCH UP, I GUESS THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO CATCH UP. ALL THE YEARS THEY DIDN'T INCREASE THE RATE ON US. AND SO FOR PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING FEC CONTROLS, YOU'RE LEASING EVERY RAILROAD CROSSING. IF WE DON'T PAY THEM, WE CAN'T DRIVE OVER THE TRACKS. AND ALSO THEY WOULD CLOSE OUR INTERSECTIONS, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE UP AGAINST THE TRACKS. SO UNLESS YOU WANT TO PUT ORANGE CONES IN THOSE AND NOT BE ABLE TO PARK, IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE LISA, THAT IF THEY EVER, IF IT'S EVER TERMINATED, BE OKAY. YEAH, CANDICE WOULD NOT BE OKAY. IT'S UP TO THEM TO TO TELL US IF THEY WANT US TO RETURN THE PROPERTY TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE, OR THEY WANT TO KEEP THE IMPROVEMENTS SO THEY COULD KEEP THE PARKING SPOTS AND EVERYTHING AND THEN CHARGE US TO PARK THERE. SO THEY CHARGE US AN ADDITIONAL 5%. YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. IS OKAY. FORGIVE ME. YES. SO JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR. AND THE MAYOR MAKES A GOOD POINT AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS IS WE DO NOT OWN THE CROSSINGS. THEY ARE OWNED BY WHEN WE LEASE THOSE ON. AND SO YOU SAID IT'S $160,000 FOR THE PARKING SPACES. NO, NO, THAT INCLUDES THE CROSSINGS. WELL, OUR ANNUAL BILL TO FEC IS WE PAY WE PAY THE TAXES, WE PAY THE THE LEASING, WE PAY CROSSING UPGRADES. AND THEY COME IN DIFFERENT YEARS. SO TO SAY WHAT ANY ONE YEAR IS, IS NOT. BUT WE'VE PAID THEM. LET'S SEE. IT'S NICE WHEN THE FINANCE GUYS, WE PAID THEM $597,000 OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS FOR SIGNAL MAINTENANCE CROSSING. SO THEY THEY RANDOMLY PICK EACH CROSSING AND THEY SAY, WELL, THIS YEAR WE'RE UPGRADING THIS CROSSING AND PUTTING THE NEW PEDESTRIAN GATES. WE HAVE TO PAY. BUT NOT ONLY DOES THE CITY OF CROSSINGS SURFACE LEVEL CROSSINGS AND BUT WE ALSO RUN. WE RUN SOME UTILITY LINES UNDERNEATH THE TRACKS. YES, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM FOR THE RIGHT OF RUNNING THE WATER AND SEWER LINES UNDER THERE. YES. YEAH. THIS IS WHY MONOPOLY YOU ALWAYS GET THE RAILROADS.

THAT'S RIGHT. MR. I JUST HAD I MEAN, THIS LEASE DOESN'T HAVE A CAP ON IT. I MEAN, THEY CAN INCREASE IT ANY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU LIVED IN AN OLD COMMUNITY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OLD 99 YEAR LEASE WHERE YOU HAD TO APPROVE EVERYTHING. YOU HAD TO PAY TAXES, BUT YOU DIDN'T OWN THE POOL THERE. YEAH THERE IS. THOSE WERE OUTLAWED BY FLORIDA IN 1979. NOT THIS ONE. OKAY. FEC HAS AN INDEFINITE LEASE. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? NO. THE MOTION WITH REGARDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 90 DASH 2025 MOVE APPROVAL AS PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED. SECOND, DO I HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WITH REGARD TO ITEM EIGHT? SEEING NONE? DO I HAVE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS BEYOND OUR

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COMMENTS ALREADY? RELUCTANTLY, I WILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR VICE MAYOR. YEAH, JUST AMAZING GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE HISTORY WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS, IT WAS LIKE $5,000 FOR SEVEN PARCELS, I THINK, AND THEN IT WENT TO $10,000 FOR NINE PARCELS. NOW WE'RE AT 11 PARCELS FOR $160,000, AND IT COMPOUNDS AT 5% EVERY SINGLE YEAR. I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS.

BUT YEAH, THIS IS WHAT THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR, APPARENTLY WITH FEC. AND APPARENTLY THERE'S ZERO NEGOTIATION ON THIS PRICE. WHAT THEY SAY WE JUST PAY IT OR WE LOSE OUR PARKING SPOTS. YOU LOSE ACCESS TO THE YOU LOSE ACCESS TO THE ROAD. YEAH, I'VE COMMENTED BEFORE. THERE'S AN OLD STORY AMONGST STAFF WHERE ONE YEAR SOME POLICE OFFICER ISSUED A TICKET TO FEC FOR BLOWING THE HORN OR SOMETHING AND COMING IN, YOU KNOW, HOT. AND ABOUT TWO DAYS LATER FEC SHOWED UP AND STARTED PUTTING CONCRETE BOLLARDS IN FRONT OF THE COLORADO CROSSING. AND SO WE WITHDREW THE TICKET AND THEY CAME AND TOOK AWAY THE CONCRETE BOLLARDS. WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT'S A STORY IN IN LEGEND HERE AT THE STAFF. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL MAYOR COLLINS. YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES. COMMISSIONER. SELBY. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH.

[9. APPOINTMENTS OF CITY COMMISSIONERS TO COMMUNITY BOARDS (RC): RESOLUTION No. 107-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS OF CITY OF STUART COMMISSIONERS AS CITY REPRESENTATIVES TO SPECIFIED LOCAL COMMUNITY BOARDS FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

YES. COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. ITEM NINE. APPOINTMENTS OF CITY COMMISSIONERS TO COMMUNITY BOARDS. RESOLUTION NUMBER 107 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS OF CITY COMMISSIONERS AS CITY REPRESENTATIVES TO SPECIFIED LOCAL COMMUNITY BOARDS FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS NOT OUR BOARD APPOINTEES. THIS IS THE BOARDS THAT WE SIT ON. YEAH, I WISH TO VICE MAYOR. YEAH. MY COMMENT WOULD BE I'D LIKE TO STAY ON THE MPO. THAT'S THE ONLY BOARD I'M CURRENTLY ON. OUT OF THE REST OF THE. I'D SENT A RESPONSE FOR THE AIRPORT BOARD. YEAH. SORRY, I MEAN I OKAY, SO THE LIST WILL STAY. IF THERE'S NO CHANGE IT WOULD GO AS PUBLISHED. RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SHUFFLE AROUND? IS EVERYBODY HAPPY? HOW DO WE FEEL. NO, NO, I'M VERY HAPPY WITH MY CURRENT ASSIGNMENTS. OKAY. TO. ALL RIGHT. OH, BUT THERE'S TWO ITEMS. I'M SORRY. ONE. ONE SECOND. YES, THERE IS AN ALTERNATE. THERE'S USUALLY AN ALTERNATE. I WAS THE ALTERNATE LAST YEAR FOR YOU ON THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL. SO. AND YOU'RE TAKING OVER AS THE CHAIR, AREN'T YOU? I'M, I'M THE BOARD NOW OF THE MAJOR OF THE OVERALL CORPORATION. AND. NO, I'M THE FIRST VICE PRESIDENT. I'LL BE PRESIDENT OF THE REGIONAL NEXT YEAR. SO I NEVER MISS A MEETING. I MEAN, BUT CERTAINLY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BE AN ALTERNATE AND DRIVE TO FORT PIERCE AND BUREAU ONCE A MONTH, I. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE THE ALTERNATE. I WAS THE ALTERNATE LAST YEAR ALTERNATE THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY, FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES OR TREASURE COAST COUNCIL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. HE'S ON BOTH OF THOSE. I ONE OR THE OTHER.

NO LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE TREASURE COAST COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. SO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES. YEAH. LEAGUE CITIES ALTERNATE ON LEAGUE OF CITIES. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. YOU GUYS GOT THAT? I DON'T MIND DRIVING. WHO IS THE ALTERNATE FOR TREASURE COAST COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS? COMMISSIONER RICH. THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT. THE ONLY ACTION THAT BOARD TOOK LAST YEAR WAS TO. OKAY, BUT YOU STILL WANT ONE. JUST ENDORSE A LETTER THAT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES WROTE. YOU GOTTA TELL THEM COMMISSIONER RICH IS FAITHFUL. HE'S NOT GOING TO MISS. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT RICH. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE! APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 107 2025. AND A SECOND. SORRY, I GO AHEAD. YOU'VE BEEN DYING TO DO THIS. GO FOR IT. IT IS SECONDED. RIGHT. IS IT? NO. NO. SECOND. ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE ANY ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, SEEING NONE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU SAY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES. MAYOR. COLLINS. YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. ITEM TEN. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. APPOINTMENTS. RATIFICATION. YES. WE ALTERED THE AGENDA TO SEE

[14. DIRECTION OF THE EAST STUART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ]

ITEM 14. FORGIVE ME. YES. THANK YOU. FORGIVE ME. THE EASTWARD HISTORICAL IS GOING FORWARD. SO ITEM 14. IT'S NOT A RESOLUTION. AND SO. YES. FORGIVE ME. YES. ALL RIGHT, WELL I'LL BRING IT

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UP. SO IT'S THE TITLE OF THE ITEM IS DIRECTION OF THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE'RE ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. I THINK THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER JOB. DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE THE FUTURE OF THE EAST COAST. EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN RESOLUTION NUMBER 11, DASH 2023. THE CITY COMMISSION ACKNOWLEDGED THE COMMITTEE'S CONTRIBUTION TO EVALUATING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO ART AND PUBLIC PLACES AND ART COMPONENTS INTO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND GUY DAVIS COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AS A RESULT, THE CITY COMMISSION TRANSITIONED THE COMMITTEE FROM A TEMPORARY BOARD INTO A PERMANENT ADVISORY BOARD. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THAT RESOLUTION RESOLUTION DID CREATE IT ON A PERMANENT BASIS, AND IT ATTACHED BY LAWS FOR THE THE THE BOARD. HOWEVER, SINCE THAT AND AFTER THAT WAS PRIOR TO ME, AND THEN SINCE THAT TIME, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE ADOPTED INTO OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE BYLAWS FOR ALL THE ADVISORY BOARDS, INCLUDING THE EAST EAST STEWART HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND SO WE'D PROBABLY BASED ON DISCUSSION HERE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS WELL. BUT UNDER SECTION TWO, DASH 120 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THE CURRENT JOB DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD IS TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CRA DIRECTOR, WHICH CELEBRATE AND COMMEMORATE THE HISTORY OF THE EAST STEWART COMMUNITY. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HOLD QUARTERLY MEETINGS. HOWEVER, THE BOARD UNLESS UNLESS THERE'S NOTHING TO MEET ON. AND SO FAR IN 2025, THEY WERE AT THE END OF 2020. THEY HAVE NOT MET DURING THE YEAR. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS SHOULD WE CONTINUE WITH THE BOARD OR OR OR SHOULD WE DISSOLVE THE BOARD? I THINK MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE ADDRESSED THEY MIGHT LIKE TO DO THINGS NOT CITY SPONSORED, SO THAT THEY CAN MEET OUTSIDE OF SUNSHINE. AND IF THEY HAVE, THEY CAN MEET AS THEIR OWN COMMUNITY GROUP AND OBVIOUSLY DO IT THAT WAY VERSUS HAVING AN OFFICIAL CITY SPONSORED BOARD WHERE WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SUNSHINE AND HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE AND STUFF. AND I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE TO REMIND THEM OF SUNSHINE YOU CAN'T MEET OUTSIDE OF A PUBLISHED, ADVERTISED MEETING. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS TO DISCUSS. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT UNLESS YOU ASK ME. DO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH, NO, NOT FOR STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, CITY CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE THE ORDINANCE UP IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THE EAST? STEWART. WHEN WAS IT WAS WAS THERE A SUNSET DATE ON THAT? NO, IT WAS PERMANENT. SO SO WE HAD LOOKED AT I WOULDN'T CALL IT IF, IF THE IF THE ISSUE IS TO IF THE DETERMINATION IS YOU'D LIKE TO END THE BOARD. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CALL IT SUNSETTING.

IN MY MIND SUNSETTING IS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A THREE YEAR TERM AND IT'S ENDING AND WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO RENEW IT. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THIS IS A PERMANENT BOARD BACK IN 2023 THAT WAS CREATED FROM A TEMPORARY BOARD. SO I THINK WE NEED TO IF YOU WANT TO END IT, IT WOULD BE A DISSOLUTION. SECOND QUESTION, UNLESS THERE'S SOME HISTORY, WHY IS IT THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO NEED TO MEET. I KNOW THAT THEY GAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO MISS PINKSTON, AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON A WEBSITE AND GATHERING THE INFORMATION AND PUT IT TOGETHER. IF THE COMMITTEE HASN'T, IF IS THERE ANY RULE? WE'VE HAD SO MANY LPA MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CANCELED, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY REASON TO SAY, GET RID OF A COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T MET AND USUALLY TAKES TIME AND MONEY TO PUT OUT AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR PEOPLE TO MEET. AND IF YOU'RE NOT MEETING FOR A SPECIFIC REASON, THEY'VE HANDED IN A LOT OF PICTURES AND A LOT OF INFORMATION TO STAFF AND STAFF HAS BEEN PUTTING IT TOGETHER. AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO COLLECT THE HISTORICAL MATERIALS. WELL, MAYBE PEOPLE CAN TELL US IF THE NEED HAS BEEN MET OR IF THEY NEED MORE DIRECTIONS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE TO CONTINUE WITH. THEY THINK THAT, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS BEFORE MISS JOB SAYS IT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S GOING TO SAY ANYWAY. BUT I'LL I'LL JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE THE ISSUE HAS BEEN IN THAT I THINK THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HAVE LOOKED AT THEIR ROLE, AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AS AN ALL STEWART THING. THEY WANT TO LOOK AT WHATEVER IT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, DRAINAGE OR THE WALKWAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY TO COLLECT HISTORICAL DATA. SO THE OTHER ISSUE THAT CAME UP WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO MEET, AND THEN THEY'RE FINDING OUT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS AND THEY JUST REALLY IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY ACTIVITY, HOW TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER. AND PEOPLE CAN MEET ON THAT AT ANY TIME, OR ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE OR PEOPLE CAN FORM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY

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DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND HAVE THEIR OWN MEETINGS AND THEN SUBMIT THEIR IDEAS TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE IS A HISTORICAL COMMITTEE. I THINK FROM TIME TO TIME THEY MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO MEET EVERY TIME.

FOR THE FOUR TIMES A YEAR, BUT MAYBE THEY AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE GUIDELINES. BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, I GUESS THEY'LL BE CONTINUOUSLY COLLECTING INFORMATION. BUT I WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW HOW FAR JORDAN HAS REACHED. MISS PINKSTON HAS REACHED ON PUTTING THE LINK TOGETHER, AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE REVIEWED SOME THINGS AND I CAN I CAN YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO BRING US UP TO DATE, PLEASE, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED THROUGH THIS HISTORICAL COMMITTEE? SURE, SURE. THANK YOU. CRA DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD. SO IN 2024, WE MET FIVE TIMES. WE HAD FIVE MEETINGS. AT THOSE MEETINGS, WE DISCUSSED THE MURAL, THE NEW MURAL THAT WENT UP ON 432 MLK BOULEVARD THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE EAST STEWART HISTORIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THE HEIRS PROPERTY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND THEY'VE PROVIDED THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT. WE'RE CURRENTLY STILL WORKING ON THE EAST STEWART NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT DESIGNATION, SO THE STATE DOES WANT TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THAT MEETING SOMETIME IN MARCH, APRIL, WHERE THE STATE WILL COME AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE DESIGNATION, AND THEN THEY WILL FORMALLY PROVIDE US A LETTER OF DESIGNATING EAST STEWART ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN THE LAST PART WEBSITE THAT'S ONGOING. SO WE'RE STILL COLLECTING INFORMATION. THE WEBSITE IS LIVE. THERE ARE A LOT OF LINKS AVAILABLE. SO IF IF THE COMMUNITY STILL WANTS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, WE'RE STILL COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN THE LAST PART WHERE WE MET WAS THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING SITES AND STRUCTURES. THEY WANT TO THAT THEY WANT TO DO LIKE A PLAQUE OR. YEAH. EXACTLY. SO THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH EACH OTHER, COLLECTING, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, DOING RESEARCH. AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT STUCK BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET AND TALK TO EACH OTHER TO COLLECT THE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PUT THE SUMMARY TOGETHER AND PROVIDE THAT TO STAFF IN ORDER TO PREPARE LIKE A HISTORIC MARKER, THEY ALSO NEED TO TALK TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH PUTTING A PLAQUE IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE FOOT TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WERE AT. AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE JUST COULDN'T GET THAT THE COMMUNITY TO MEET WITH THE BOARD TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. SO WITHOUT THE WITHOUT THE SUNSHINE, RIGHT. BLESSED RAIN EVERY DAY THEN. NO. WELL BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN JULIE PRIEST WHEN SHE PUTS TOGETHER SUMMARY. SHE TALKS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, AND YOU KNOW AND SHE DOES THAT ON HER OWN. BUT IF YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, SO THEY HAVE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. YEAH. AND AND PEOPLE JUST MAYBE, MAYBE MORE PROBABLY INDIVIDUALS CAN GIVE MORE THINGS TO STAFF AND MAYBE STAFF CAN DO THAT.

COMMUNICATION IN BETWEEN. AND LIKE I SAID, NOBODY'S TRYING TO RAIN ON ANYBODY'S PARADE. WE WANT THIS TO BE IN THE OPEN. WE WANT THE SUNSHINE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY'S IN VIOLATION BECAUSE WE NEED THEIR INPUT, AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE CRITICIZED WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEIR INPUT IN THE BEST WAY THAT THEY CAN. STAFF JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER A SUMMARY, REALLY, IT NEEDS TO COME FROM THEM. AND THEN WE COULD REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE OTHER COMMUNITY LIKE HISTORIC PRESERVATION HISTORIANS TO REVIEW THE MATERIAL TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE. BUT THEN AND WE STAFF WOULD PREPARE LIKE THE MARKER AND THINGS TO FABRICATE THE MARKER AND INSTALL IT AND TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT THE SUMMARY NEEDS TO COME FROM THE BOARD. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, IS IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS NO BUSINESS TO TAKE UP FOR THE LAST YEAR, EFFECTIVELY, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON IT, IT'S ONLY A LIABILITY WHERE YOU COULD HAVE CHARGES OF VIOLATING SUNSHINE IF IF SOMEBODY WAS AGAINST YOU. SO TO HAVE AN INFORMAL COMMITTEE WHERE YOU CAN HASH THINGS OUT, IF YOU'LL STILL DO THAT, EVERYBODY CAN STILL TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THEN BRING THAT TO COMMISSIONERS OR THE CRB FOR OFFICIAL BUSINESS. SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S A BIG POINT? LIKE I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE ON A BOARD. YEAH. WHERE THERE'S NO BUSINESS FOR A YEAR TO DISCUSS. AND IF I END UP TALKING TO MY NEIGHBOR AND SOMEBODY, MY OTHER NEIGHBOR IS

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UPSET WITH ME AND THEY REALIZE THAT THEY COULD GET ME IN TROUBLE, I COULD HAVE FINES AND PENALTIES. WITH THE STATE AND ETHICS COMPLAINTS, YOU GET ALL THE LIABILITY OF BEING IN THIS JOB, BUT WITH WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE ON. WAS IT COMMISSIONER JOB? YES. VICE MAYOR, FORGIVE ME. IT WAS. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH BETTY.

WHO? THANK YOU. WHO'S BEEN ON THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL COMMITTEE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PANEL. AND IN THAT OFFICE ALSO, THERE IS NOTHING THAT WOULD STOP THE DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC STATUS IF THE COMMISSION DID NOT EXIST. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. RIGHT? YOU'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL. I JUST FEEL AND I'VE SPOKEN TO BETTY AND I, I'M, YOU KNOW, HOPING WE CAN SPEAK TO OTHER PEOPLE. THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AS JUST A STANDALONE COMMITTEE AND PROBABLY DO MORE. AND I HAD OFFERED MY HELP AS A NOT AS A COMMISSIONER, JUST AS A PERSON HELPING THEM GET SET UP ON THAT COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU COULD HAVE SUCH AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY AS A STANDALONE COMMITTEE, RATHER THAN BEING INVOLVED IN THE CITY WHERE YOU'RE ENCUMBERED BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT RULES THAT AREN'T HELPING YOU. SO THAT'S JUST MY FEEL OF THE BOARD. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AT YOUR DISCRETION. HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE FORWARD? NO, I AGREE WITH BOTH COMMISSIONER AND THE MAYOR. IT'S IT'S MORE OF A HINDRANCE NOW THAT IT'S OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO GET TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TALK ABOUT WHATEVER THEY WANT, WHENEVER THEY WANT, THAT'S HOW THINGS SHOULD REALLY GO FORWARD. AND AND THEY DID MEET ONCE IN 25. IS THAT CORRECT? WE DID NOT MEET. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AS NEEDED BASIS. YEAH. THAT WAS A DIRECTION THAT'S NOT WORKING. AND IT'S SO WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION THAT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL CITY ORGANIZATION, BUT SHE CERTAINLY HAS MY EAR. AND HE'S ABLE TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF HIS COMMUNITY. SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK HERE. VICE MAYOR, DID ANY OF THE DISCUSSION OF THEM NOT HAVING MEETINGS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PROJECT LIFT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S JUST HOW I FELT OR INTERPRETED FROM TALKING TO CERTAIN BOARD MEMBERS. I THINK BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE FULLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEIR BOARD INTENTION WAS, THAT IT WAS STRICTLY ART AND THE CRA, AND MAYBE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR MORE. AND AS FAR AS LIABILITY, I MEAN, THAT WOULD APPLY TO EVERY ADVISORY BOARD THAT THE CITY HAS. THEN I THINK IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING, IT SHOULD SUNSET WITH SOME SORT OF DATE UNLESS ACTION WAS TAKEN PRIOR TO THAT DATE, BECAUSE THE BOARD'S BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR TWO AND A HALF TO THREE YEARS, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GATHER OVER 100 YEARS OF HISTORY, IT'S A SHORT TIME PERIOD. AND IF SOMETHING GETS MISSED, I GET WHERE COMMISSIONER JOB'S COMING FROM THAT THEY COULD PRESENT IT TO THE CRA BECAUSE IT WAS THIS. THIS BOARD WAS A SUB OF THE CRA, CORRECT? I BELIEVE THEY WERE NOT PART OF THEY WERE NEVER OR CRB. IT WAS A STANDALONE BOARD ON BOARD, RIGHT. IT WAS INITIALLY CREATED BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE GUY DAVIS PARK, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE DESIGN, IT IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THE CRA. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE RESOLUTION IN IN RELATION TO THE GUY DAVIS PARK. I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THAT WAS A DATE CERTAIN TO HAVE IT IN DISSOLUTION THEN. IS THERE A TIME PERIOD YOU'D LIKE TO SEE? THAT WOULD BE MY MY RECOMMENDATION IF I WAS DOING ANYTHING. AND ALSO TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THAT BOARD. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A SAY SO IN WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO DO TO THEIR BOARD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, WHETHER THEY WERE CALLED OR. YES, I DID SPEAK TO BETTY. SO THEY WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY CONTACTED. I CONTACTED MOST OF THEM AND I SPOKE TO BETTY. SO THEY'RE AWARE AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE THEY PROBABLY ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT COULD THEY COULD DO MORE AS A STANDALONE COMMITTEE, NOT WITH THE CITY.

MY ONE QUESTION IS THERE ALL OF THE HISTORIC INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE COLLECTED TO DATE COULD BE GIVEN BACK TO THEM? WE ONLY GOT A FLASH DRIVE. WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING ORIGINAL. YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE ACTUALLY LITERALLY. OKAY, GREAT. SO THEY HAVE ALL OF THE ORIGINALS.

THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS THOUGH. AND THEN YOU THOSE WERE YOUR COMMENTS. THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS, YES. LEE, TO TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION, DO WE NEED TO AGENDA THIS AGAIN AS A AS A FORMAL ACTION ITEM. RIGHT. IFITT COMMISSIONER REED SAYS, IF YOU IF YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION, HEY, WELL, IF NO ACTION OR NO MEETING TAKES PLACE BY MARCH 31ST, 2026, THAT THE STAFF COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION DISSOLVING THE BOARD, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT WOULD PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT. OR IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT SOONER. SO IT'S NOT CUSTOMARY TO HAVE PUBLIC

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COMMENT DURING A, D AND D, BUT FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS, I'M HAPPY TO. IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO CHIME IN, IF YOU'LL JUST FILL OUT A GREEN CARD, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS SO WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOUR IDEAS AND THEN FORMULATE WHERE WE'RE GOING. YEAH, WELL, Y'ALL KNOW ALBERT BRINKLEY PART OF THE BOARD, BUT THE KIND OF THAT. NO, WE WASN'T NOTIFIED. I GOT A TEXT FROM COMMISSIONER YOU LAST NIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY UNPROFESSIONAL THERE. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. YOUR EMAIL GOT LOST. I COULDN'T I SENT IT BY EMAIL, BUT IT DIDN'T. IT DIDN'T GO TO THE RIGHT EMAIL. SO I SENT YOU A TEXT. YEAH. AND AND THAT'S MY POINT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AHEAD OF TIME.

NOT OKAY. YOU KNOW, NO DISRESPECT. I'M JUST MAKING A POINT. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED FOR THIS TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT MANNER. YES. AND WE COULD DO. AND TO THE FIGHT THE BOARD. THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE VOICED OUR OPINION AT THAT MEETING THAT WE DIDN'T AGREE IN THE MANNER OF THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT WAS WE SAID IN THAT MEETING THAT LOOKED LIKE WE WAS CARRIED OUT THE CITY AGENDA, NOT THE AGENDA OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE STATED IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE WASN'T GOING TO MAKE NO DECISIONS, THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF. THE LAST MEETING WE SPOKE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD SIT RIGHT OVER THERE. THAT NIGHT AT A COMMISSION MEETING, VOICED OUR OPINION ABOUT THE SKATEPARK, AND WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER MEETING OF THAT COMMITTEE OF THAT YEAR. THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE VOICED WE DIDN'T LIKE THE DIRECTION IT WAS GOING FROM THAT POINT. WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER MEETING. WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER MEETING. AND THE FACT THAT WE WAS WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH PEOPLE WAS ON THE BOARD, DIDN'T KNOW NO HISTORY OF EASTWOOD, NEVER LIVED IN EASTWOOD, AND WE SAID WE WASN'T GOING TO BE USED BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE WE WAS BEING USED. NOBODY MAJORITY ON THAT BOARD DIDN'T NEVER LIVED. EASTWOOD DON'T EVEN KNOW. NOT ONE DROP OF A HISTORY OF EASTWOOD. AND WE DID NOT LIKE THAT. THAT WASN'T FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHY WE VOICED OUR OPINION THAT NIGHT WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD CAME IN THE COMMISSION MEETING AND WE CONFRONTED ABOUT THE SKATEPARK, WE DIDN'T HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE SKATEPARK BEING PUT OUT THERE, AND WE NEVER HAD NO MORE CONTACT AT THAT POINT. AND WE DID NOT LIKE AND WE VOICE OUR OPINION. WE DID NOT LIKE THE WAY THE, THE, THE DIRECTION OF THAT WAS GOING, BECAUSE LOOK LIKE YOU WERE JUST PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE BOARD FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING SOMEONE ON THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE, THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, NEVER IN THEIR LIFE LIVED IN EASTWOOD, DIDN'T KNOW NO HISTORY OF THE STEWARD. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HISTORICAL BOARD, SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY OF THAT COMMUNITY. BECAUSE TO BE UPFRONT, A LOT OF HISTORY HAS BEEN DESCRIBED. WHY WOULD YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON A BOARD WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT? I LIKE TO, I LIKE AT THIS POINT, I LIKE TO REALLY KNOW AN ANSWER TO THAT, BECAUSE THERE WAS TWO MEN ON THE BOARD, NEVER LIVED IN EASTWOOD, DON'T HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY OF EASTWOOD. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD LOOKED AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW AND SAID, WE DID NOT WANT NO PART OF THAT BECAUSE LOOKED LIKE WE WAS BEING USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THERE WAS PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD, NEVER LIVED IN EASTWOOD, DON'T KNOW. NOT ONE DROP OF HISTORY OF EAST STEWART. SO WHY WOULD YOU ALL WANT TO PUT SOMEONE ON THE BOARD OF THAT MAGNITUDE, SOMETHING OF THAT MAGNITUDE, AND YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE ON THE BOARD SEEM LIKE FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING SOMEONE ON THE BOARD, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S HOW THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD LOOKED AT IT. AND WE DID NOT LIKE THAT TO LOOK LIKE WE WAS BEING PUT IN A POSITION. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY. WHY WOULD WE AGREE TO SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULDN'T HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF, LOOK LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BRINGING IDEAS TO YOU ALL, INSTEAD OF YOU ALL BRINGING IDEAS TO US? LIKE EVERYTHING WAS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL DO. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. WE SHOULD HAVE INPUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND IT SEEMED LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE NO INPUT. IT'S LIKE YOU PUT STUFF IN FRONT OF US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE

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DONE. A BOARD LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY CONCERNING A HISTORY OF THAT MAGNITUDE OF THAT COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING WHAT YOU ALL THINK WE WE LOOKED AT IT, THE BOARD WASN'T BEING DONE LIKE THAT. AND THE LAST TIME ANY CONVERSATION WE HAD, WE WAS HERE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOARD AND SOMETHING PERTAINING TO GOD, DAVID'S PART, ABSOLUTELY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE DIDN'T. AND THAT'S WHY WE CONFRONTED YOU ALL THAT NIGHT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD THAT NIGHT AND ASKED WHY THE HISTORICAL BOARD DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE SKATEPARK. WE CONFRONTED Y'ALL THAT NIGHT AND WE NEVER HAD A MEETING OF THAT BOARD AGAIN. WHEN WE SIT THERE ON THAT BOARD THE AFTERNOON AND WE MADE THE POINT THAT LOOK LIKE THE BOARD WAS BEING USED AND WE THE MAJORITY AND I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THE MAJORITY SAID WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION. AND FROM THAT POINT WE HAD WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER MEETING FROM THAT POINT. AND THAT WAS WHAT, OCTOBER SOMEWHERE LAST YEAR. WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER MEETING. WHEN WE SIT THERE, THE MAJORITY SAID WE DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THE BOARD. ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT WASN'T BENEFICIAL. YOU'RE DOUBLE TIME. IT WASN'T BENEFICIAL. YES, SIR. WE DIDN'T LIKE IT. THANK YOU SIR. OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. MISS BRINKLEY.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I WAS ON THE BOARD AND WHEN I GOT HERE, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, I FOUND OUT FROM THE CHAIRMAN THAT WHAT WE WERE SAYING, WHAT WE WANTED FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULDN'T GET IT. WE WAS GETTING WHAT YOU ALL WANT. YOU WANTED THE SKATE PARK FIRST. WE WANTED THE PARK TO GO. WE WANTED THE PARK TO GO WHERE EVERYBODY COULD. THE INTERACT. WHITE, BLACK INTERACT. THEN YOU DO THE SKATEBOARD LETTER. WHAT? WHAT ONE GROUP DO THE WHITE BOYS WANT TO DO? THE SKATEBOARD. YOU DON'T LIKE BOYS DOING SKATEBOARDING? SO WE DECIDED WE WANTED THAT. BUT YOU ALL PUT YOUR AGENDA AHEAD OF US. AND I GOTTA UNDERSTAND THIS COMMISSION MEETING. AND I TOLD Y'ALL. OH, Y'ALL WERE DOING WAS USING US BLACK PEOPLE. YOU WASN'T REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE YOU WAS CONCERNED. YOU WERE LOOKING AT US. AND WHEN WE SAID, DO THE PAUL THAT YOU WANTED TO DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, NOT WHAT YOU WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT US, YOU WERE JUST USING US, TRUTH BE TOLD. AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU. ALL PEOPLE LIKE THAT. I'M SERIOUS. I'M NOT HATING YOU, BUT I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT PEOPLE CAN BE SO HEARTLESS, SO COLD AGAINST ANOTHER GROUP. FOR WHAT? YOU ALL USED US. YOU USED US AND WE TOLD YOU THAT. AND THEN THE THE BOARD WAS THIS WHEN? NO MORE BOARD. AFTER THAT MEETING WERE WE COMING FOR? WHAT WAS WE COMING FOR? WHAT WAS WE COMING FOR? YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER US. WHAT'S GOING ON? IT WAS ALL ABOUT YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I ACTUALLY HAVE AN OFFER OF HELP. I WOULD LIKE TO EXCHANGE CONTACT INFORMATION WITH YOU.

SO IN BRIDGEWATER, NEW JERSEY, THEY HAVE THIS MAGICAL TOWN. IT'S CALLED HOBBS TOWN. AND WHAT MAKES IT SO MAGICAL IS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, PEOPLE WOULD COME THROUGH HOBBS TOWN.

PEOPLE OF, YOU KNOW, WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY SLAVES, AND THEY MADE A COMMUNITY. I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MAYOR MENSCH OVER EMAIL IF POSSIBLE. I KNOW. RIGHT? HE WAS HARASSED A LOT. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK TO THIS WOMAN AND EXCHANGE CONTACT INFORMATION BECAUSE SCOTT HOBBS, WHO IS A DIRECT DESCENDANT, HELPED MAKE THIS TOWN A HOBBS TOWN. SO I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SURE. I WOULD JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT, OH, MARK BRACKBILL, 406 SOUTHEAST PHINNEY DRIVE, STUART, FLORIDA 34996. WE WE DEALT WITH THIS ON ON THE CRB LEVEL BECAUSE WE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING PEOPLE AT THE FOR THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY BECAUSE OF JUST WHAT BETTY SAID,

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THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT IN, IN MAKING DECISIONS AND ON THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THAT THERE WAS NO REAL DECISION MAKING. SO WE FOUND THAT SOME OF THEM WANTED TO MOVE TO THE TO THE CRB AND, AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME INPUT THROUGH THAT. SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WANTS TO LOOK AT TOO, IN TERMS OF MAYBE THIS GROUP CAN FUNCTION WELL INDEPENDENTLY SO THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS AND NOT HAVE TO NOTICE AND DO ALL OF THAT. AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A MAYBE THEY HAVE A SEAT. MAYBE THEY'LL FILL ONE OF THE SEATS. WE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS THERE, HAVE ONE OF THE SEATS ON THE CRB EVERY YEAR, SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN AVENUE TO, TO ACTUALLY VOICE THEIR OPINION THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A VOLUNTEER BODY THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN DO THAT. WE AT THE CRB, WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE HISTORICAL THINGS. SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT COULD BE PART OF THAT AS WELL. ANYWAY, I JUST GIVE THAT AS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED, BUT THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN HISTORICAL SOCIETY BECAUSE IT JUST REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECT IMPACT. THEY COULDN'T THEY COULDN'T MAKE ANY DIRECT DECISIONS AND HAVE ANY DIRECT IMPACT. SO THANK YOU, MARK. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER CLARK. YEP YEP. GO AHEAD. SO I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR COMMENT AND I, I PUSHED HARD TO GET THIS COMMITTEE TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD HAVE INPUT FROM ME, STUART, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE EFFECTIVE INPUT. AND THAT WAS A GOOD START TO GET THIS HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND TO OF COURSE WE'RE WORKING ON THE DESIGNATION AND WITH THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR THE DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS A AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THE KEY ISSUE IS THAT BALANCE AND KEEPING TWO THINGS, THERE'S A ROLE THAT IS SET OUT IN THE ORDINANCE APPOINTING THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE FOR EAST STUART. THAT ROLE NEEDS TO BE COMPLIED WITH. THAT ROLE NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WHERE PEOPLE AND MAYBE BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKED, AND I'M NOT SURE AT THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO PUT MAYBE IT WAS AT THE VERY END OF WHEN THE GUY DAVIS WAS ALL ALMOST COMPLETED AND THE COMMITTEE CAME INTO BEING, THAT THEY WERE PROVIDED WITH SOMETHING ABOUT THE EAST STUART, THE THE PARK THERE, THE GUY DAVIS PARK, BECAUSE THEY WERE A PART OF EAST STUART AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST GET THEIR INPUT. BUT THEY'RE NOT A ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. THEY'RE NOT A ANY TYPE OF A BOARD THAT APPROVES ANYTHING IN EAST STUART. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE I, AS MARK JUST COMMENTED, PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE INPUT WHERE THEY BELIEVE THAT IT'S VALUABLE AND THAT THEY'RE THEY HAVE A A ROLE, A SPECIFIC ROLE. AND THAT WAS NOT HAPPENING WITH THE EAST STUART COMMITTEE. AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE OF WHAT IS SET OUT IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT. AND IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO TO COME TOGETHER AND PROVIDE, IF THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THEY HAVE IDEAS THAT THEY WANT TO BRING FORTH SO THAT THE CRA FUNDS CAN FLOW INTO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY BRING THESE PLANS IN. BUT IT'S TWO THINGS.

AND THERE'S A ROLE THAT THEY PLAY AND THERE'S A ROLE THAT THEY DO NOT PLAY. I THINK LEE HAD DONE AN UPDATED ORIENTATION WITH THE BOARD, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO SUNSHINE AND THEIR ROLE, AND I THINK THE CLERK DID ALSO. AND THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S INCONGRUENT WHEN WE SET THE NEXT, WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION AGAIN OR THIS NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO BEFORE WE PUT THIS OFF, IF WE PUT OFF THE STUART HISTORICAL COMMITTEE AND WE DISCUSS IT, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEMBERS ARE PROPERLY NOTIFIED BY THE CLERK WITH THE AGENDA ITEM AND WITH THE BACKUP INFORMATION, THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED, A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.

AGAIN, THEY CAN THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN IT BEFORE, BUT WE CAN DO IT AGAIN AND AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT, MEMBERS KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE, THIS IS YOUR ROLE. IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BRING UP, IT COMES UP AS A REGULAR DISCUSSION AND COMMENT OR DISCUSSION WITH YOUR COMMISSIONER OR SOMETHING FROM

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AN ORGANIZATION, OR IF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO FORM, AGAIN, A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND DO CERTAIN THINGS THERE, AND THEN TRY TO USE IT TO FUND TO GET FUNDING TO, TO TO DEVELOP SOME PROJECTS THERE IN EAST STUART. THEN THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT HAS TO BE IN THOSE POCKETS OF AUTHORITY SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY STAND RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST THE THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS THE HISTORIC ORDINANCE. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE KNOWS WHAT THE ROLE IS THAT THEY PLAY AND THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH IT. SO FOR CLARIFICATION. THE THIS BOARD WAS SET UP INITIALLY TO PROCURE HISTORICAL INFORMATION FOR GUY DAVIS PARK AND NOW TO ASSIST WITH THE TO ASSIST WITH THE THE REGISTER DESIGNATION, THE DESIGNATION OF EAST STUART AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT THAT THOSE GOALS HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. WELL, YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. MR. WEAVER. MR. PAUL WEAVER IS OUR CONSULTANT. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS AT THE 10TH STREET. WE'VE HAD LOTS OF GROUPS AND SUBGROUPS AND INPUT FROM PEOPLE. WE'VE HAD INPUT THROUGH SURVEYS. THERE'S BEEN THREE AND A HALF YEARS FOR THE DESIGNATION PROCESS. YES, THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN A WHILE. YEAH. IT'S TAKING SOME TIME WITH THE STATE BECAUSE OF THE TURNAROUND OVER THERE. SO THE REVIEW IS TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER. BUT YEAH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF STARTED EVEN BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND IT'S ONGOING. AND THE NEXT STEP LIKE I SAID IT'S REALLY A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. EVEN IF THE BOARD EXISTS, I HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT. SO THE PURPOSE OF BOARDS LIKE THIS ADVISORY BOARDS IS NOT TO SEEK THE DIRECTION THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO GO IN, KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION CREATES ADVISORY BOARDS TO FULFILL A TASK. RIGHT. SEND THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE NATURE OF THIS BOARD WAS. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE MORE OF LIKE A, LIKE A AND I'M NOT GIGGLING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT BUT LIKE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU WANT TO HAVE AN UNOFFICIAL COMMITTEE THAT MAY NOT BE A CITY BOARD WHERE WE'RE COMING IN AND THE CITY IS GIVING YOU BUSINESS TO CONSIDER.

YOU GUYS CAN GET TOGETHER AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IS RELEVANT IN YOUR COMMUNITY, AND THEN YOU CAN BRING THAT TO THE CRA, CRB SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. SO AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THAT'S THE SENSE THAT I'M GETTING IS, HEY, I WANT TO HAVE A VOICE AND I WANT I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO TALK AND TO BRING IT TO YOU. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN AN UNOFFICIAL, NOT UP HERE KIND OF SITUATION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AT 10TH STREET.

WE CAN HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY MEETINGS AND THEN FOLLOW THAT UP WITH HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE OR, OR ALL OF THAT GROUP COME TO A CRB MEETING AND REQUEST THAT THERE BE AN ITEM AGENDA THAT YOU COULD PRESENT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. SO SO IT WOULD BE FORGIVE ME. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHEN WERE THESE MEETINGS THAT YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT JUST RIGHT NOW, YOU SAID MR. WEAVER, AND SO. OH, YEAH.

THERE PUBLIC MEETING. MARY HAS A WHOLE LIST OF THEM, RIGHT AT THOSE MEETINGS. I'M ASSUMING THEY HAPPEN DURING 2025. NO, 2024, 2023. OH, OKAY. SO THERE WAS NOTHING HAPPENING. BUT IN THE OH NO, THE YES, THE AND WE HEARD THAT IN 2025 THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET. BUT THEY DID MEET FIVE TIMES IN 2024. JUST WHEN THE HISTORICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FIRST STARTED, THEY MET AND THEY THEY HAD A PRESIDENT, THAT PRESIDENT RESIGNED AND THEY HAD SOMEBODY ELSE. I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S BEEN NO COHESIVE ABILITY TO GET THEM TOGETHER. BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU MET WITH MR. WEAVER, DID ANYONE INVITE THE EAST STEWART HISTORICAL SOCIETY COMMITTEE? THEY WEREN'T IN THERE. WEREN'T THEY? JUST CAME INTO BEING. OH, OKAY. WELL, THEY'VE BEEN AT THE 10TH STREET WHERE MR. WEAVER AND WE'VE PROVIDED INFORMATION AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO THEN IN LAND USE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, THEN I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT IT WOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO GO TO BEING A COMMITTEE, A COMMUNITY COMMITTEE, WHICH THEN COULD APPEAL TO THE CRA AND THE CRB. RIGHT. THIS IS ONLY A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. WE WEREN'T VOTING ON ANY OF THIS. SO CERTAINLY IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA, YOU WOULD THEN BE NOTIFIED THAT THAT IS THE COURSE OF ACTION WE WOULD BE TAKING. BUT I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE HERE TO CHIME IN. YEAH, WELL, I HAD ASKED BETTY. I SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR HER

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TO BE HERE. NEXT TIME WE FIND OUT THAT THE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW. SO NO MATTER WHAT TONIGHT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING. YEAH, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SUNSET OR DISSOLVE IT THAT THE THE BOARD IS GOING TO CONTINUE WITH ITS APPOINTEES UNLESS SOMEBODY CHANGES OUT THEIR APPOINTEES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS PER MY COMMENTS, WE WOULD NEED TO WE NEED TO SUNSET AND DISSOLVE THIS CURRENT BOARD SO THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE COULD BE FORMED TO START ADVISING THE CRB, BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO. BUT THIS BOARD IS STOPPING THAT FROM HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN ITS CURRENT FORM. MR. MAYOR, MAY IT PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, I AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE CAN CONSIST OF PERSONS WHO LIVE WITH A STREET ADDRESS AND SLEEP AT HOME EVERY NIGHT IN EAST STUART, AS WELL AS SOMEBODY WHO'S A PROPERTY OWNER IN EAST STUART. AND I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S THAT'S WHO CONSTITUTES THE COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT. YEAH I DON'T SEE THAT. OVER THERE. THEY'RE NOT BEING LIVING AT HOME OR NOTHING. CAN SUCH AS, CAN SUCH A STIPULATION BE MADE ON A BOARD THAT IT BE RESTRICTED TO AN AREA. SO, SO THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IS THIS WOULD BE A GROUP THAT WOULD BE FORMED ORGANICALLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE WOULD NOT BE DICTATING TERMS AS TO WHO CAN BE IN IT OR NOT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN POLICE ITSELF AND DECIDE WHO WANTS TO HAVE A SEAT AT THAT TABLE. THAT'S NOT FOR US TO DECIDE. THEY CAN DECIDE THAT THEIR AD HOC. BUT I'M SAYING THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE AS NOW, AS OF NOW THAT I, I, I HAVE A MEMBER ON THERE AND MY MEMBER HAS PROPERTIES IN HE PROBABLY HAS MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN EAST STUART. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT THEY WORK THERE AND THEY THEY'RE THERE EVERY DAY. BUT THERE'S A MEMBER ON THAT BOARD. NEVER LIVED IN EAST ORANGE. COMMISSIONER CLARK NEVER LIVED IN. HE STOOD ON THAT BOARD RIGHT THERE. I CAN GIVE YOU THE NAME. OKAY. FAMILY HOMES, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. STUART NEVER LIVED IN EAST STUART. THEY SHOULDN'T BE SPEAKING. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THESE STUART COMMUNITY IS PEOPLE SPEAKING THAT. NO, NO. KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. THAT'S NOT FAIR.

THAT'S NOT FAIR TO US OKAY. OKAY. SO AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN OUR NEXT. SO FROM FROM THE BOARD I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE I'M THE MAYOR. IS THERE SOME DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ITEM FOR DISSOLUTION OR SOME DIRECTION ON A DATE CERTAIN. NO, WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE EXISTING COMMITTEE AS IS.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE? DISSOLVING. I WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUNSET.

DISSOLVE THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. LET THEM FORM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY COMMITTEE WHERE THEY COULD CONTROL WHO IS ON THEIR COMMITTEE AND WHAT IS GOOD FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING, IS THAT THAT WOULD BE THEN THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE NEXT OR THE FINAL, THE NEXT AGENDA OR FEBRUARY AGENDA, WHENEVER THAT WOULD BE ON THERE. AND THEY WOULD ALL BE NOTIFIED AND THEY WOULD COME AND THEN HAVE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, I'D MAKE THE MOTION. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD IT. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT WORDY. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DISSOLVE THE EAST STUART HISTORICAL COMMITTEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE PUT MAYBE ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY OR MARCH.

OKAY, THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ARE NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE. SO YOU'RE NOT MAKING A MOTION THIS EVENING. YOU'RE JUST SAYING YOU WOULD LIKE A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM. YES. ON TO DECIDE WHETHER TO DISSOLVE. OR WOULD YOU RATHER JUST HAVE CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE JUST TOLD THEM WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A DECISION? WELL, WE'RE NOT. I'M PUTTING A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT THAT'S NOT A MOTION I'M MAKING. IT'S FORMAL, BUT IS THERE A SECOND ALONG THOSE LINES TO HAVE IT? AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM ON IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, WELL YOU WERE I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO MAKE A SECOND THAT WE PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA, A FORMAL DECISION REGARDING THIS. YES. AND I WOULD SAY REQUIRED. MY ONLY ASK WOULD BE SOONER THAN LATER, NOT OUT IN MARCH. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THESE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE SITTING IN A POSITION OF LIABILITY FOR JUST TALKING TO THEIR NEIGHBOR. SO THE SOONER YOU CAN GET THAT ONLY ABOUT THAT ISSUE RESOLVED ISSUES THAT ARE DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS THOUGH. ETHICS COMPLAINTS. YOU KNOW, THEY MAYBE SO MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE IT ON THE SECOND

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MEETING IN JANUARY, JANUARY, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. YES, YES. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S A LITTLE SHORT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A LONG BREAK RIGHT NOW. OKAY? I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW STAFF UNDER THE BUS, BUT IF WE GOT FIVE WEEKS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT ME TO PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST ONE IN JANUARY, I THINK WE COULD. SO SECOND ONE IN JANUARY. OKAY, JANUARY. THAT WAY IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA. YOU WOULD BE. NO, IT'LL BE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION. WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT. THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN HASH IT OUT. SURE. IF IF STAFF COULD ALSO ADD TO THAT ANY CRITERIA, WHETHER THE PEOPLE OR IF PEOPLE ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER ON THE COMMITTEE, WHETHER THEY LIVE UP IN EAST STUART OR PROPERTY OR WHATEVER, IF IF THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT TO THEM, THEN THOSE NEED TO BE PUT ON THERE TO THE EXISTING HISTORICAL COMMITTEE. WELL, I KNOW WELL THERE'S YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMPLAIN ON HOLD ON FOR THE EXISTING HISTORICAL COMMITTEE. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE PEOPLE COMPLAIN. SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CLEAR WHAT CRITERIA WE'RE USING. IF YOU WANT TO DISSOLVE THE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE PARAMETERS FOR THE EXISTING COMMITTEE AT THE TIME THAT YOU'RE DISSOLVING IT. YEAH. GOING TO DISSOLVE IT. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT THE SECOND AND THEN THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL BE UP TO THEM WHO THEY WANT ON THEIR COMMITTEE WILL BE NOTIFIED. THEY WILL BE HERE TO DISCUSS IT.

BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSING THE CRITERIA OF WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE. THAT'S A DECISION THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE WHEN IT BECOMES A COMMITTEE. RIGHT. IT YOU DISAGREE. AND COMMISSIONER RICHARD WILL WAIT UNTIL IT COMES TO US THEN OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION WE'RE DISCUSSING AGENDA ING THIS ITEM FOR THE SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY SEEING NONE. SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY. SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY SEEING NONE. IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM COMMISSIONERS? NO. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO MORE COMMENT. SUZY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER JOB? YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES.

COMMISSIONER COLLINS I MEAN, MAYOR MANO. HA. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. AND

[10. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENTS / RATIFICATION OF TERMS (RC): RESOLUTION No. 108-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPOINTING AND RATIFYING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND ADOPTING THE MEMBER TERMS FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

COMMISSIONER RICH. YES. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM TEN. ADVISORY BOARD, BOARD MEMBER. APPOINTEES.

COFFEES WEARING OFF. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. APPOINTEES. LEE, RESOLUTION NUMBER 108 DASH 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPOINTING AND RATIFYING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS AND ADOPTING THE MEMBERS MEMBER TERMS FOR THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SO MAYBE FIRST, ARE THERE ANY NEW MEMBERS TO A SPECIFIC COMMISSIONERS BOARDS? YES, I'M ULA CLERK FOR THE LPA. I APPOINTED CAITLIN PALMIERI AND MISS PALMIERI IS HERE WITH HER SON THOMAS. MISS PALMIERI, WOULD YOU STAND SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU? THANK YOU. ON THE CRB, I HAVE MR. FREDERICK JAMES. ANY CHANGES TO THAT? NO. OKAY. AND THEN BY WITH WITH RATIFYING THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING MEMBER BY MEMBER. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND AS ONE RESOLUTION. GOT IT. OKAY. BEYOND THAT, IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER EXISTING SEATS FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WANT TO FILL OR CHANGE? ANYBODY HAD A COMMENT? YES, SIR. SO I WANT TO I STILL WANT TO REACH OUT TO MY LPA WARNER BOWLES. I WANT TO REACH OUT TO HIM OUT OF RESPECT TO HIM. BEFORE I DO ANYTHING. I'VE TRIED TWICE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO CALL AGAIN. HE'S VERY CONSISTENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HE STILL WANTS TO BE THERE. I KNOW SCOTT MENTIONED HE WANTED TO BE THERE, BUT THE ONLY REASON I WANT TO REACH OUT TO WARNER IS BECAUSE I KNOW JOHNNY WAS HERE. EARLIER, HE HAD MENTIONED THAT HE IS ALSO OPEN TO BEING ON THE LPA FOR MY SPECIFIC APPOINTEES, SO NOT THE AT LARGE ONES. SO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF WARNER YET, THOUGH I KNOW HE WAS. I THINK HE WAS ON VACATION.

SO AND FOR CLARIFICATION, PROCEDURALLY, THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT ONE OF US COULD DO OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING. CORRECT. JUST LOOKING FOR THEM TO ADD. NOT CORRECT. OKAY.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE THERE WAS MORE SO FOR LIKE IF ANYONE WAS LOOKING AT HIM SPECIFICALLY FOR LIKE AN AT LARGE POSITION, I DIDN'T YOU CORRECT. YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO GET TAKEN. NOT AT LARGE. BECAUSE IF I WAS GOING TO PUT HIM, I PUT HIM AS MY APPOINTEE.

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IS THAT SEAL A SEAL? SEAL. MOVE. WALKING HIM OUT? YEAH. TRYING TO BLOCK HIM OUT. AND BUT I WANT TO TALK TO WARNER FIRST AS WELL. OKAY. JUST TO FIND OUT WHERE HE STANDS. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES I, I HAVE AN LPA PERSON, LANCE VOGEL, WHO HAS AGREED TO DO HIS SECOND TERM AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND JEFF MANERA ON THE CRB IS MY APPOINTEE AND HE HAS AGREED TO DO ANOTHER YEAR. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEY'VE BOTH BEEN NOTIFIED. AND I LET THE CITY CLERK KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO 2026. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE HAPPY WITH YOUR MEMBERS, COMMISSIONER RICH? I'M HAPPY WITH THE CRB AND I'M INTERVIEWING PEOPLE TO FILL THAT VACANCY ON THE LPA. VERY GOOD. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BECAUSE I'LL GIVE MINE IF NOT. OKAY. I WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S IT'S INCREDIBLE. SO I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO CHANGING OUT SOME OF THESE AT LARGE SEATS ON THE CRB AND LPA. IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION, I WAS GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT. MOST NOTABLY PHILIP, DEBORAH, AND ONE OF THOSE AT LARGE SEATS. AND THAT WOULD BE AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH CLAY SHEARER WHEN HE APPLIED, HE HAD NOT BEEN FOR A YEAR LIVING IN THE CITY. PHIL DEBORAH OWNS PROPERTY, BUT IT'S LESS THAN A YEAR, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR HIM. BUT HIS WILLINGNESS, MANY OF YOU GUYS, I'M SURE, KNOW MR. DEBORAH. HE WOULD BE A HUGE ASSET. AS AN AT LARGE CRB MEMBER. AND THEN. MY OTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE JOHNNY. AFTER TALKING TO JOHNNY, I THOUGHT HE WAS FANTASTIC, BUT IF NOT, IF THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT YOU MIGHT BE TAKING HIM AS YOUR YOUR MEMBER.

IF WE'RE PLAYING IF WE'RE PLAYING MONEYBALL HERE. RIGHT. SO FRANK MCCRYSTAL AND ALSO PAUL GROSSO. YEP. WHO'S NOT ON OUR LIST? I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL TODAY, AND I THINK HE WOULD ALSO BE A HUGE ASSET. I KNOW PAUL AS WELL, ALONG WITH MR. DEBORAH, SO I WANTED TO GET A SENSE FROM YOU GUYS IF THERE WAS SOME OR NO, PAUL WANTED TO BE ON THE LPA. YEAH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE WORKED WITH HIM, BUT I, HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT ANNEXATION.

WE'VE TALKED TO HIM WHERE HE THAT'S WHERE HE WAS INTERESTED IN. SO NOT CRB FOR PAUL. SO THEN YEAH IT'S IT'S POTENTIALLY LPA BUT I THINK WE'RE FULL ON THE LPA. SO MY, MY IF THERE WAS SOME CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD I CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS UNLESS I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL. BUT SEEING PHIL DEBORAH HOW HOW WOULD YOU HOW WOULD YOU LADIES RECOMMEND MAKING THAT EXCEPTION? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW WE DID IT FOR CLAY. MAYBE THAT'S A LEE QUESTION OR IT'S JUST THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. OKAY, SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A SPECIAL. NO. YOU HAVE A PRECEDENT. NINA DOOLEY HAS PUT IT. WE HAVE A PRECEDENT OF IT. GOT IT RIGHT. NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OKAY.

SO SO IF THERE WAS IF THERE WAS SOME CONSENSUS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MR. DEBORAH AND MR. MCCRYSTAL REPLACING OUR EXISTING AT LARGE MEMBERS ON THE CRB. AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME BALANCE ON THERE IN TERMS OF HAVING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE. AND I KNOW THAT MR. JAMES IS ON THERE. MISS DOOLEY HAS ALSO PUT IN AN APPLICATION, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY CRITERIA, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT. SO SHE'S BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY A LONG TIME AND SHE'S SERVED. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING THAT WAS A NO I'M NOT REPLACING MR. JAMES. MR. JAMES. NO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'M NOT REPLACING. I'M SAYING THAT YOU HAD TWO YOU WERE TRYING TO CHANGE THE TWO AT LARGE SPOTS TO TWO PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, BUT THOSE AT LARGE SPOTS ARE ALL OF US. VOTE ON THOSE. IS CLAY LEAVING? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST. IT WOULD BE SHUFFLING IN SOME NEW, NEW BLOOD, NEW PERSPECTIVE. BUT CLAY'S NOT LEAVING, OR YOU'RE NOT PUTTING CLAY IN AGAIN. I WOULD BE REPLACING CLAY WITH MR. DEBORAH AND MR. MCCRYSTAL. WHY? AND I SPOKE WITH MR. DEBORAH TODAY. VERY INTERESTING. REALLY WANTS TO REALLY BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. HE'S BEEN

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HERE IN STUART AND HE REALLY WANTS TO VOLUNTEER HIS TIME. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT. WE'VE HAD SUCH A AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS WHO SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET SOME FRESH AIR. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AT LARGE ON THE LPA AND THAT HAVE JUST BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'D BE NICE TO GET A NEW, FRESH PERSPECTIVE. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAVE TO SPEAK AGAINST MR. DEBORAH. I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT WAS SO IT WAS THAT WAS THE MOST UNTASTEFUL FLOAT TO HAVE AN A CHRISTMAS PARADE. I'M VERY UNHAPPY WITH THE ORGANIZATION, BUT TO HAVE A FLOAT THAT MOCKS PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF TRANSPORTATION ACCIDENTS, THIS IS A CLUELESS PERSON, AND I DON'T WANT HIM ANYWHERE NEAR ANY OF OUR ADVISORY BOARDS. IF HE CAN'T. YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY HE HAS TO MOVE A MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE STREET IN FROM IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I MEAN, SHOULD WE HAVE A FLOAT FOR PEOPLE WHO DIE FROM FENTANYL OVERDOSES? SHOULD WE HAVE A FLOAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF DRUNK DRIVING? I WAS APPALLED, I RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT OUR FAILURE TO MONITOR THAT. AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO RUB SALT IN THIS WOUND IF WE PUT HIM ON ADVISORY BOARD. WHAT HAPPENED EXACTLY, COMMISSIONER RICH? IT WAS MOCKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF BRIGHT LINE ACCIDENTS. I THINK MAYBE WE'RE READING MORE INTO THIS AND TAKING OFFENSE. I'M RESPONDING TO THE MANY, MANY GRANDMA GOT RUN OVER BY THE BRIGHT LINE. THOSE ARE MY PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY. MAYBE IT EVEN MAKES IT WORSE THAT HE PROFITS OFF. MAYBE HE MISSES FORTUNE PROFITS. I, I HATE TO HEAR US TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL BOARD MEMBERS THIS WAY. IT'S INCREDIBLY DISRESPECTFUL. I WILL VOTE NO.

IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE. HE WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE ASSET. HIS FATHER, WHO HIS FATHER WAS AND WHO WHO HE IS. I JUST HATE TO HEAR YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE RIGHT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HIM NOT LIVING HERE. I MEAN, HE JUST. HE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I'M SURE HE LIVES IN PORT SAINT LUCIE. I THINK HE LIVES OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. IS THAT BUILDING THERE ON THE CORNER OF US? ONE. I MEAN, I THINK HE'S IN THE 215 BUILDING. I OKAY, SO HE MOVED OUT. HE'S NOT IN TWO. HE'S ON HIS OWN. OKAY. 900 OKAY. HAS ANOTHER BUILDING. THAT'S WHY IT'S SHOWING. IT'S PROBABLY OKAY. SO I WAS WONDERING IF HE HAD TAKEN OVER FROM YOU OR YOU STILL OWNING. OKAY, FINE. SO THAT'S INTERESTING. I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. OF COURSE.

HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S AN ATTORNEY. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T I LEFT THE PARADE AFTER WE WENT UP FIRST. SO I WASN'T FULLY AWARE OF THAT. THAT'S CONCERNING. BUT I'VE I'VE SEEN MR. DEBORAH AND I'VE TALKED TO HIM AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND HE SEEMS LIKE AN UPSTANDING PERSON.

I, I WASN'T I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, THIS PART BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AMBULANCE CHASERS TYPE PEOPLE SO THAT WHATEVER THAT IS THAT THE MOCKING THING I, I'M SURPRISED AT THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY COULD.

THERE ARE OTHER QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED IN THE CITY LONGER AND WHO WHO MAY BE IN TUNE WITH WITH SOME THINGS. SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW. I DON'T I DIDN'T CALL MR. STEELE AND I, I KNEW FRANK, I, I DON'T FEEL SO. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING I'VE KNOWN I'VE KNOWN ABOUT MISS VOGEL. SO IT WAS JUST GARY AND GARY'S. HE'S BEEN AROUND. PLEASE GET BACK WITH MR. BOWLES.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT MR. BOWLES WOULD BE YOUR PERSON? MR. VICE MAYOR? YEAH. ON THE CRB OR ON THE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ON THE LPA. OH, THAT'S ON THE LPA. OKAY. MINE ON LPA. BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO HIM. AND AS FAR AS LIKE MAKING AN EXCEPTION, I KNOW PHIL, I'M ASSUMING HE'S WORKED IN MARTIN COUNTY, THE CITY OF STUART PROBABLY FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER. I KNOW HE MADE AN EXCEPTION FOR CLAY SHEER AS WELL THAT HAD JUST MOVED BACK HOME AS WELL. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I KNOW MARK, HE'S IN THE CROWD. HE'S BEEN ON BOARDS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PHIL BEING ON THERE OR FRANK. WAS FRANK AN AT LARGE

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MEMBER BEFORE HE WAS SOMEONE THAT'S APPOINTEE? HE WAS MY APPOINTEE AND HE HAD TO TAKE A BREAK, BUT HE WAS INTERESTED IN COMING BACK. WE VOTED ON THAT INDIVIDUALLY OR NO. WE HAVE TWO AT LARGE SEATS THAT WE HAVE TO AGREE TO VOTE ON. OKAY. SO RATIFY THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING OKAY. EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT I WAS GOING TO DO CRB FIRST AND THEN TALK LPA. YOU WEREN'T HAPPY WITH MR. SHEAR BECAUSE YOU WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC THAT THERE'S THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS AND BE INVOLVED THAT ARE NEW, YOU KNOW, AND SOME NEW IDEAS. THESE AT LARGE SEATS, YOU KNOW, GIVE US FEEDBACK AND NEW IDEAS. SO I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHERE CLAY STANDS. IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE TREES, HE WOULD LIKE MORE TREES. WELL, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SEVERAL SEATS ON THE CRB AND I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE FROM THE EAST STUART COMMUNITY. SO I AM ASKING IF THERE WOULD COULD BE CONSIDERATION FOR MISS DOOLEY AS AN AT LARGE MEMBER. OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO APPLY, THEY COULD HAVE APPLIED. YEAH. SO. COMMISSIONER JOB, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YOU SAID YES ABOUT PHIL. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT FRANK? WHY DIDN'T GET TO TALK TO FRANK. BUT CERTAINLY I KNOW FRANK. AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS A PERSONAL ISSUE WHERE HE WENT OFF THE BOARD FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT HE HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME OVER THE YEARS. SO, YEAH, I'D, I'D BE I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE FRANK ON THERE. OKAY. SO WE GOT SOME CONSENSUS THERE. LET'S TALK. LET'S TALK LPA OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF AT LARGE, THERE WERE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED. HOW DO YOU HOW DID HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT WHO'S ON THIS LIST HERE. WELL I SPOKE TO CHRISTINA. I'M NOT SURE HOW HER LAST NAME IS PRONOUNCED. YES. AND SHE WAS QUITE INTERESTED. SAME THING. SHE'S BEEN A BOARD MEMBER OF HER CONDO, HER HOA ASSOCIATION. SHE AGAIN WANTS. SHE HAS A NEED. SHE SAID, TO BASICALLY WANT TO HELP AND VOLUNTEER HER TIME IN THE CITY OF STUART. AND AS MOST OF THEM ALL SAY, THEY LOVE LIVING HERE. THEY LOVE BEING HERE. MR. GERARD, OF COURSE, HAS A BUSINESS HERE, AND I THINK THAT THERE IS AN AT LARGE ON THE LPA ALSO, ISN'T THERE? YES. THERE'S TWO AT LARGE SPOTS AND YES, I DON'T KNOW RYAN, I KNOW KELLY, I SERVED ON THE OPA THREE YEARS AGO AND KELLY HAD BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW THEY'RE GREAT. THEY'RE GREAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S TIME AGAIN FOR SOME NEW NEW INPUT, NEW PEOPLE. AND HONESTLY, IF WE DON'T GIVE NEW PEOPLE A CHANCE TO BE ON ADVISORY BOARDS NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE LUCKY IF TWO PEOPLE APPLY. I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY, YOU NEED TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT THEM ON THESE BOARDS AND TO BE ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. SO I AGREE WITH YOU. CHRISTINA WAS WHO I WAS THINKING AS WELL, ALONG WITH PAUL GROSSO, WERE MY THOUGHTS. YEAH, MY MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE AS WELL. MAYBE IF WE PUT THE AT LARGE MEMBERS WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD AS LIKE ONE OF OUR APPOINTEES, MAYBE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I DON'T THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. MAYBE TWO YEARS. SORRY. YEAH. FORGIVE ME, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MAYBE FOR SOME OF THE AT LARGE POSITIONS, IF THEY HAD SAT ON THE BOARD PRIOR AS LIKE OUR APPOINTEES, AND WE MOVED THEM TO AN AT LARGE POSITION, THAT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE. HISTORICALLY, THOUGH, WE'VE JUST WE DON'T.

YEAH. AND AND THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE I LIKE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE AT LARGE BOARD MEMBERS, THEY'VE BEEN ON THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. I KNOW THEY HAVE A TERM. WHAT IS THEIR TERM EXPIRATION. IS IT JUST EVERY YEAR AT LARGE EVERY YEAR. SO YOU NEVER TERM OUT. SO WE HAVE TERM LIMITS AS COMMISSIONERS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS ON ADVISORY.

EVERY YEAR 12 MONTHS EIGHT YEARS OKAY. OH WOW. SO ONCE YOU'RE ON FOR EIGHT YEARS ON AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT'S IT. WHAT WHAT WHAT. EVERY YEAR WE CAN REAPPOINT THEM OFF. AND THEN YOU COULD REAPPLY AND COME BACK ANOTHER YEAR. GOTCHA. SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR AND OR. NO.

YEAH, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. I'D HAVE TO LOOK. BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ADVISORY BOARDS. THERE'S LIKE A COOL OFF PERIOD OR SOMETHING. AND THEN YOU KNOW IT'S THAT WAY WITH COMMISSION. OKAY. I'M NOT I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THERE IS AN EIGHT YEAR. AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED THE AT LARGE, MOVING THEM TO AN AT LARGE POSITION, BECAUSE IF THEY WEREN'T ON THE BOARD FOR A LONG TIME AND LIKE, SAY FOR INSTANCE, THEY RESIGNED AS AN AT LARGE

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POSITION, THEN WE'RE COMING HERE AS A BOARD AGAIN TO RE PUT THEM ON AS AN AT LARGE POSITION INSTEAD OF JUST MOVING PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THERE TO THE AT LARGE. SO IF OUR, IF MY OWN APPOINTEE DECIDED TO RESIGN, THAT'S MY ISSUE TO DEAL WITH AND NOT THE BOARD'S. SO THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. SO YOU WOULD PREFER THAT WE SHUFFLE AROUND EXISTING MEMBERS ONTO THE AT LARGE SPOT. CORRECT. THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME. I DIDN'T BRING MINE OUT.

I MEAN, LOOK AT IT JUST I, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE ELSE FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE AN AT LARGE POSITION. YOU SHOULD BE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK DINO WOULD MIND IF I, IF I ASKED HER TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GUYS AGREED TO THE AT LARGE AND THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE, SAY, PAUL GROSSO BE MY REPRESENTATIVE. YEAH. I JUST, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO, TO MOVE THEM TO AN AT LARGE ONE. OKAY. AND THEN WHO'S YOUR LPA. CORRECT. MINE IS WARNER BOWLES, WHICH I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO WARNER AND SEEING IF HE'D BE OPPOSED TO NOT BEING THERE ON THE LPA. OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO ARE YOU GOING TO BE KEEPING IT VACANT OR ARE YOU I'M GOING TO KEEP HIM FOR NOW, JUST FOR JUST PURPOSES. YEAH. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT IT'S THERE. LIKE SCOTT SERVED AN ENTIRE YEAR ON THE CRB. WILL WILL LAUGHLIN HAS BEEN THERE. BONNIE MOSER'S BEEN THERE. FREDERICK JAMES HAS BEEN THERE. JEFF'S BEEN THERE. AND THOSE ARE LIKE YOUR APPOINTEES MAYBE MOVING TWO OF THEM TO AN AT LARGE, IF THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS. LAURA, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT MOVING MOVING JEFF OVER AND THEN APPOINTING CHRISTINA? I DON'T KNOW FORGIVE ME. THAT'S CRB. HE'S JEFF IS ON THE CRB. YES. FORGIVE ME I GOT WE'RE DEALING NOW WITH THE OPA. SO LANCE. LANCE NOT JEFF. LANCE WOULD BE AT LARGE AND THEN WOULD SAY LANCE AND AND DINA TO AT LARGE IF THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS. AND THEN. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE CHRISTINA BE YOUR REP AND PAUL WOULD BE MY REP.

OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING. YES, BUT THEN IF I'M MOVING LANCE TO AN AT LARGE.

YEP. THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE AN OPENING FOR ME. AND YOU WOULD MAKE CHRISTINA. YES. CHRISTINA I LIKE THAT'S LIKE YOU WERE SAYING. SO I KNOW THAT SHE'S MAKING UP HER MIND ABOUT CHRISTINA. HUSBAND AND WIFE ON THE SAME BOARD. COULD THERE BE A THOUGHT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THEY HAD DROPPED OUT THE LAST TIME. THAT'S HARD. SUNSHINE, I'M SO SORRY. I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER JOB IS TALKING ABOUT CHRISTINA OLET, NOT CHRISTINA VOGEL. SORRY. OH, NOT CHRISTINA VOGEL. SORRY. CHRISTINA. OKAY, SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, COMMISSIONER, CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK? OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT GOING ON. YES. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING ALONG VICE MAYOR'S LINE OF THINKING, IS IT EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS AND WE'RE ON THE LPA WOULD MOVE INTO AT LARGE SPOTS. SO THAT WOULD BE DINA PETERSON AND LANCE VOGEL WOULD BECOME OUR AT LARGE MEMBERS ON THE LPA. AND THEN COMMISSIONER JOB WOULD APPOINT AS HER LPA REPRESENTATIVE, CHRISTINA OLET. AND I WOULD APPOINT PAUL GRASSO. DOES THAT CREATE MORE CLARIFICATION? OKAY, OKAY, PAUL. IT'S FINE. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST DOCTOR, BECAUSE SHE'S HAD A LOT OF WORK WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION, AND SHE'S WORKED WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES BOARD. BUT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT COMMISSIONER JOB CONSIDER HER, BUT I GUESS SHE'S CONSIDERING MISS ARLETTE. BUT DOCTOR, DOCTOR ANITA HAS A A GREAT DEAL OF. EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA WITH DEALING WITH ORDINANCES AND COMMUNITY BOARDS AND COMMUNITY RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND SHE'D BE A GOOD MEMBER FOR THE LPA, WHICH IS WHAT SHE'S APPLIED FOR. BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM AT THE END. YES. DO I HAVE OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS THAT WE'VE SETTLED THE. OKAY, THAT'S SO THEN LET'S TRY TO WRAP UP OUR CONVERSATION HERE. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT I'VE ALREADY JUST READ THAT OUT ABOUT THE LPA AND THEN THE CRB. WE WOULD JUST BE ADDING PHILIP DE BARAD AND FRANK MCCRYSTAL AS AT LARGE POSITIONS. OH, AND THEN ON THE LPA, CAITLIN PALMIERI AS COMMISSIONER CLARK'S APPOINTMENT. HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THAT? I THINK THE SAME THING SHOULD APPLY. MOVING.

YEAH. I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH FRANK AND PHIL. PHIL. PHIL HAS EXPERIENCE ON A LOT OF LOCAL

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BOARDS AND FRANK WAS MY PREVIOUS APPOINTEE, SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NEED THERE'S AS MUCH NEED TO SHUFFLE THAT, BUT I AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE LPA. SO FRANK AND PHIL ARE GOING TO THE SIERRA AT LARGE CRB, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THEN ON THE LPA, CAITLIN PALMIERI WOULD BE COMMISSIONER CLARK'S APPOINTMENT. CHRISTINA OLETTE WOULD BE YOURS, PAUL GRASSO WOULD BE MINE. AND THEN WE WOULD BE MOVING LANCE VOGEL AND DINA PETERSON TO THE AT LARGE LPA SPOTS. IF THERE IS A MOTION ALONG THOSE LINES, I THINK WE GOT IT. I THINK WE GOT IT TOO. WE JUST NEED TO TALK TO WARNER. WELL, I'LL TALK TO CLAY ABOUT MOVING TO THE LPA. THERE YOU GO. SEE, WE'RE FIGURING IT ALL OUT, AND WE WOULD JUST BE CARRYING OVER THE LAST YEAR'S MEMBERS ON THE STEWART HISTORICAL COMMITTEE. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. CORRECT. IF THERE'S A MOTION, I THINK THAT THERE WAS A VACANT SPOT ON THERE OR WAS IT FILLED BY COMMISSIONER? YEAH. I HAVE A VACANT SPOT. YES, COMMISSIONER SHAWN NEEDS A. BUT IF, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO DISBAND WITH THE COMMITTEE, CAN WE VOTE ON EACH BOARD SEPARATELY, PLEASE? OH, NO. WE'RE ALL. WE'RE WRAPPING THEM ALL INTO ONE, ONE VOTE ITEM. OKAY, THAT WAS THE DIRECTION. OKAY. IF THERE'S A I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. IF THERE'S A SECOND AND THE MOTION WOULD BE DO WE NEED TO. THE CLERK ALREADY HAS READ IT OUT I HAVE IT I'D BE HAPPY TO REPEAT IT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE I WAS WRITING IT DOWN, TOO. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF I HAD TO REPEAT IT. WHO WOULD? CAMPBELL RICH'S APPOINTMENT VACANT. OH, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT VACANT FOR NOW. OKAY. POTENTIALLY. MISTER CHAIR FOR THE LPA. I'LL TRY TO GET CLAY. I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS TO DO THAT NOW. YEAH, JUST DO IT NOW. I'M NOT GOING TO CALL HIM RIGHT NOW. NO, HE'LL DO IT. JUST PUT HIM IN. HE CAN LEAVE IT VACANT. OKAY? I CAN FILL IT TOMORROW. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN HANDLE IT. YEP. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THE INDIVIDUALS WE SELECTED FOR THE LPA AND THE CRB. AND IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE COMMENT FROM COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I'M JUST I WILL TELL YOU I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE. NO. I DON'T LIKE TO GO AGAINST THE COMMISSION WITH THESE MATTERS. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED OUR CHOICES. BUT I SIMPLY CANNOT VOTE FOR MR. D, SO I'LL BE VOTING NO. I UNDERSTAND THAT, YES. PUBLIC COMMENT. COME ON, GAIL, FILL OUT A GREEN CARD. I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I JUST I WANT TO THANK MARK. I KNOW YOU'RE HERE, MARK, YOU'VE BEEN ON THESE ADVISORY BOARD FOR YEARS AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. WE ALL DO. MARK, YOU'VE BEEN. GREAT. SELFISHLY, WE KNOW YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE HERE. YES. YOU'RE GOING TO PUBLICLY COMMENT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO MISS ANYTHING. YOU WON'T GO AWAY. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING PHILIP D BALLARD. I KNOW MR. D FOR MANY YEARS, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD BE A TOTAL ASSET.

AND AS FAR AS KIMBALL RICH'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE PARADE OR THE THE CHRISTMAS PARADE THAT WAS HANDLED BY THE VNA, THE VNA PUT THAT SPONSORED AND PUT THE PARADE TOGETHER. SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING THAT, RATHER THAN DISPARAGE MR. D BALLARD, YOU SHOULD CONTACT THE VNA AND DISCUSS, POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE, HOW THEY SHOULD GO ABOUT PUTTING THEIR PARADE. THE PARADE TOGETHER. AND ONE OTHER POINT BEFORE YOU WOULD SAY SOMETHING REGARDING MR. D BERARD, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD DISCUSS WITH HIM YOUR UNHAPPINESS, BECAUSE IT COULD VERY WELL BE POSSIBLE THAT MR. D BERARD DID NOT PUT THAT PARADE FLOAT TOGETHER. IT COULD HAVE BEEN HIS STAFF, AND HE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF WHAT WAS BEHIND THAT OR WHY. SO PLEASE, IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHO YOU DISPARAGE AND AND FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MATTERS OF TASTE. AND IN FACT, NOT ONLY WAS THAT FLOAT IN THE PARADE, IT WON THE BEST FLOAT. BEST FLOAT? YES, IT WON THE BEST FLOAT. SO THESE ARE MATTERS OF TASTE. AND ACCORDING IN THE VNA, THOUGHT NOT ONLY WAS IT AN ACCEPTABLE FLOAT, IT WAS THE BEST OF ALL OF THE FLOATS. THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE. FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. FORGIVE ME, I KNOW, IS THAT THAT YOUNG LADY IN THE BACK? YEP. I'M SORRY I WAS HIS COMMENT AND HIS QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. COME COME TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE COULD HEAR YOU THOUGH. YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS GWENDOLYN HALL BRINKLEY, 18 TARPON AVENUE. I'VE BEEN WONDERING, HOW DO YOU SELECT YOUR MEMBERS FOR THESE COMMITTEES? AND I HEARD COMMISSIONER CLARK SAYS IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTED TO APPLY, I MEAN, WANTED TO, THEN THEY COULD APPLY FOR IT. WHEN DO YOU ANNOUNCE IT? WHEN DO YOU ADVERTISE IT? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, YOU ALL ARE JUST. AND THIS IS ME, THAT YOU'RE

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PICKING YOUR FRIENDS OUT OF THE AIR. THEY KNEW TO APPLY OR WHATEVER. OKAY, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ON MY WATER BILL. I HAVEN'T SEEN AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THERE WAS A BOARD OPENING. SO HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW TO APPLY FOR THESE POSITIONS IF IF IT'S NOT ADVERTISED? I'VE BEEN WONDERING THAT FOR A WHILE. SO SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME. YEAH. I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU FOR ME PERSONALLY, I, I CREATED A FACEBOOK VIDEO AND SHARED IT IN ALL OF THE MAJOR GROUPS ON FACEBOOK SO THAT EVERYBODY THAT.

SO WHAT IF I'M NOT IN YOUR GROUP? NOT IN MY GROUP, BUT IN A LARGER SCALE? STEWART LOCALS, MARTIN COUNTY NEWS, THE GROUPS I MEAN I UNDERSTAND LET'S BE REAL. HOW DO YOU HOW DO THE CITIZENS EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A SEAT OPEN ON A BOARD THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY CITIZEN TO APPLY FOR? ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. I THINK I BELIEVE IT'S ONLINE AND THEY TAKE APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I BELIEVE IT'S ONLINE. YES. IT'S BORN AND RAISED HERE IN STEWART. OKAY. NO, I MEAN, IT'S ONLINE WITH THE CITY. IF YOU WENT TO THE CITY. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SAYING HOW TO APPLY FOR A SEAT ON A BOARD.

AND I'M LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE, PEOPLE COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT STEWART. TRUE. AND I LOOKED UP AND I WAS LIKE, WHY ARE THEY ON THE BOARD? DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT STEWART, DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT STEWART, BUT HE'S ON A BOARD, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. A LIFELONG RESIDENT, TO FIGURE OUT HOW PEOPLE ARE BEING PUT ON BOARDS OR ASSIGNED TO BOARDS. HOWEVER, WHEN THE POPULATION NEEDS TO KNOW, THAT'S MY THAT'S MY THING. AND I GUESS WE'LL MAKE A MORE CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS.

OH YES, YES, IT IS YEAR ROUND. SO. SO, MISS BRINKLEY, THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANT TO DO THIS TOWN HALL AND EAST STEWART, SO I CAN BRING AWARENESS ON HOW THINGS WORK.

SO IN OUR CITY OF STEWART CHARTER, THE SECOND MEETING OR THE FIRST MEETING OF EVERY DECEMBER, WE DO BOARD REORGANIZATION. AND THAT'S IN OUR CHARTER, WHICH IS LIKE THE HOLY GRAIL FOR THE CITY OF STEWART ON HOW IT'S WRITTEN AND JUST WHERE TO GO TO FIND THIS INFORMATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE WITH THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA PACKETS AND HOW WE DO THINGS.

BUT YES, THIS IS MY GOAL. SO. BUT IN THE CITY CHARTER, THIS HAPPENS EVERY DECEMBER. SO NEXT DECEMBER THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE TYPICALLY IN NOVEMBER, POTENTIAL APPLICANTS WILL START SUBMITTING THEM ON THE CITY WEBSITE. OR LIKE MAYOR COLLINS SUGGESTED, IF HE PUT IT ON HIS OWN SOCIAL MEDIA. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY PUT IT ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. THEY PROBABLY POSTED THAT THERE WAS A MEETING, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO CLICK THE LINK AND GO TO THE AGENDA AND THE AGENDA PACKET, AND IT WOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEING DONE AS WELL. BUT YES, EVERY YEAR WE WILL DO THIS UNLESS THE CHARTER CHANGES. OKAY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE EVEN WHEN THEY PUT IN AN APPLICATION AND YOU GUYS LOOK AT OKAY. YES, MA'AM. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU GET WHEN THEY PUT IN THE APPLICATION AND YOU GUYS RECEIVED THE APPLICATION, WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS THAT YOU'RE STILL PICKING. WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ON THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE JUST PICKING PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUR FRIENDS OR YOU'RE SOMEBODY THAT YOU LIKE. SO PEOPLE WILL SUBMIT RESUMES. THEY'LL SUBMIT WHY THEY WANT TO BE ON THE BOARD. IT'S UP TO THESE MEMBERS ONCE THEY GET THOSE APPLICATIONS TO CALL TOUCH BASE WITH, GET A SENSE OF WHO THIS PERSON IS, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, AND IF THEY'D BE A GOOD ASSET TO THE BOARD, WHETHER AS AN AT LARGE POSITION OR AS THEIR INDIVIDUAL PERSON. BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO US TO PICK WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE AT A AT A CORPORATE OFFICE HE HIRES WHO HE WANTS TO.

WELL, YOU TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT. YOU THINK THAT THAT PERSON'S GOING TO ADVISE WELL, QUALIFICATIONS FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HEARING WHAT QUALIFICATIONS THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE BOARD. THIS GENTLEMAN HERE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T AGREE WITH SOMEBODY. THAT'S HIS RIGHT.

HE'S NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM. THE REST OF YOU MAY LIKE HIM AND YOU'LL VOTE FOR HIM. YES, MA'AM. THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO TAKE IT. BUT WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS? BECAUSE EVERYBODY I'M HEARING, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'M HEARING EITHER HAVE SOME TYPE OF A STATUS IN THE COMMUNITY OR THEY HAVE MONEY OR BOTH. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S WHO DO I TRUST T? JUDGMENT? HOW DO I RESPECT THEIR THEIR WISDOM AND AND HOW THEY'LL WAY INTO DECISIONS? THAT'S WHAT I'M CONSIDERING MORE THAN AN EXACT RESUME QUALIFICATION. IT'S DO I THINK THIS PERSON WILL MAKE A GOOD ASSET IN ADVISORY IN AN

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ADVISORY ROLE? OKAY, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW WE ALL MAY HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT FOR ME, THAT'S ME. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, SO WE RECEIVED THESE APPLICATIONS AND PEOPLE HAVE CALLED AND THEY'VE BEEN SENT THE PACKET TO FILL OUT THE ADVISORY BOARD PACKET, SUBMIT IT, AND IT'S ON FILE WITH THE CLERK. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF MISS BRINKLEY IS GETTING AT THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THESE POSITIONS NEED TO SHOW UP, LIKE FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH THE CITY COMMISSION SO THAT WE SEE THEM.

BUT WE'VE BEEN CALLING PEOPLE AND TALKING TO THEM AND RESPONDING TO THEIR EMAILS, OR THEY'VE CALLED US AND SAY THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED. SO AND THAT'S HOW WE GET PEOPLE. IF WE KNOW THE PERSON ALREADY, WE KNOW WHAT THEIR CAPABILITIES ARE. BUT IF IF THAT'S A PROCESS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY, WELL, THE ADVISORY BOARD PROCESS NEEDS TO BE THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERVIEWED AND IT'S IN PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC SEES THEM, THAT'S NOT A PART OF OUR PROCESS RIGHT NOW. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? MR. BAGGETT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PROCESS.

THEY FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, YOUR IT'S YOUR JOB AS THE COMMISSIONERS TO GET THE WORD OUT. AND I GUESS COMMISSIONER COLLINS DESCRIBED HIS WORD, HOW HE GOT IT OUT. YOU'VE DESCRIBED HOW YOU'VE GOTTEN THE WORD OUT. WE DO POST IT ON OUR WEBSITE. AND IT'S EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR THESE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TERMS MORE THAN A YEAR. SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE LIST.

EVERYBODY COULD BE REMOVED EVERY YEAR. SO I KNOW WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION THAT THERE WAS AN EIGHT YEAR TERM. I THINK WE DID AWAY WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'VE CHANGED IT TO WHERE IT'S ONCE A YEAR, EVERY YEAR THEY'RE UP FOR GRABS. SO AND AND IF THEY'RE AN APPOINTEE OF A COMMISSIONER, IF THAT APPOINTEE OR IF COMMISSIONER TURNS OUT AT EIGHT YEARS OR IS IS RESIGNS OR IS UNELECTED AT AFTER FOUR YEARS, I ASSUME THAT APPOINTEE PROBABLY WOULD BE CHANGED. BUT AND AT ANY TIME. RIGHT. AS PER. BUT YOU GUYS CAN DO IT EVERY YEAR, CHANGE IT AT ANY TIME.

THAT WAS AN UPDATE. AND TO YOUR POINT, MISS BRINKLEY, I AGREE WITH YOU. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY SAW THAT IT WAS EVEN A POSSIBILITY TO BE ON A BOARD, THEY SAID, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS AN LPA? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE ARE ADVISORY BOARDS.

SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE'S GENERALLY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY KNOW ABOUT THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT LPA AND CRB OR ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT ADVISE THE COMMISSION. SO BUT I THINK SEAN'S IDEA WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THE THESE ARE THE JUST THE LITTLE PIECES THAT THE, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT.

AND THEN THEY WILL BE TALKED ABOUT, QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED AND HOW TO ACCESS THOSE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE. AND IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FIVE OF US TO TRY TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS TO HOW THEY CAN BE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, AND AND HAVE A VOICE HERE. SO IF YOU WANT TO POINT THE FINGER AT ANYBODY, IT'S THE FIVE OF US UP HERE. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. CAN I CAN I SAY SOMETHING? ABSOLUTELY. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD, I HAD SOMEBODY WHO HAD BEEN ON THE BOARD ON THAT THING FOR LIKE 20 YEARS OR SOMETHING, AND THEN I CHANGED THEM, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I JUST. AND EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, WELL, THEY'VE BEEN THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE, THE CONTINUITY AND SO ON. BUT AT THE TIME THERE WAS A NEED FOR CHANGE AND THERE WAS A NEED FOR CHANGE. I'VE CHANGED NOW AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE AGAIN, WE CAN CHANGE. BUT THAT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT TO BE ANY PARTICULAR LENGTH OF TIME. SO EVERY YEAR THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO CHANGE BOARD MEMBERS AND THEY AMONG THEMSELVES CHANGE WHO THEY WANT TO BE THEIR CHAIRPERSON. YEAH.

IT'S IT'S YOUR DISCRETION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON PROVIDES THE ADVICE ADVISORY CAPACITY THAT YOU WANT ON THAT BOARD. OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION TO SAY WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR COLLINS. YES. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. JOB.

YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. NO. COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM 11. IT'S AN

[11. ASSIGNMENT OF LEASE TO COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISE VENTURES, LLC (RC): RESOLUTION No. 109-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS, ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AND FLORIDA CANCER SPECIALISTS & RESEARCH INSTITUTE, LLC FOR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 S.E. OCEAN BLVD., SUITE 102 TO COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISE VENTURES, LLC FOR THE BALANCE OF THE LEASE TERM, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]

ASSIGNMENT OF LEASE TO COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISE VENTURES, LLC. RESOLUTION NUMBER 109 2025 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AND FLORIDA CANCER SPECIALISTS AND RESEARCH INSTITUTE, LLC FOR LEASE OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 301 SOUTHEAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, SUITE 1022. COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISE VENTURES, LLC FOR THE BALANCE OF THE LEASE TERM, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE FLORIDA CANCER SPECIALISTS AND RESEARCH INSTITUTE, LLC ARE CURRENTLY IN THE. THE EAST SIDE OF THE WELLS

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FARGO BUILDING, AND THEY THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISES VENTURES, LLC. FLORIDA CANCER SPECIALISTS WILL REMAIN IN OCCUPANT AT AT THE FACILITY OR AT OUR LOCATION, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE AND THEY WILL FOCUS ON PATIENT CARE. WHEREAS NOW COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY ONCOLOGY REVITALIZATION ENTERPRISE VENTURES LLC IS GOING TO HANDLE THE LEASE, ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS OF THE PRACTICE. THEY'RE KIND OF COMPLICATED, BUT THERE WAS A ACQUISITION. ACQUISITION, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL. I ASKED FOR THE ASSIGNEE AND OR THE ASSIGNOR TO COME AND SPEAK IF IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, NONE OF THEM WERE AVAILABLE TO BE HERE IN A PRIOR AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE. MISTER MORTAL, BEFORE HIS DEPARTURE, WAS ABLE TO COME TO A LEASE AMENDMENT TO END THE LEASE IN 2028. THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT. IT'S JUST WE'RE CHANGING. WE'RE JUST ASSIGNING IT TO THIS NEW CORPORATION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HANDLING MANAGEMENT OF THE LEASE ITSELF. BUT NO USE IS GOING TO CHANGE. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A CANCER TREATMENT FACILITY. AND IN FACT, THE SAME MEDICAL PROVIDERS ARE STILL GOING TO REMAIN IN THERE. THEY'RE JUST NOW WANTING TO FOCUS ON PROVIDING PATIENT CARE AND LET SOME OTHER COMPANY BE INVOLVED IN DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND LEASES AND SO FORTH. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE DETAILS THAN THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN ASSIGNMENT BECAUSE THEY ENTERED INTO AN ACQUISITION AGREEMENT. AND AND SO NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE THERE. AND THE PRIOR THE ASSIGNOR IS STILL GOING TO BE THEY'RE JUST THE ASSIGNEE IS GOING TO BE OFFICIALLY THE THE NAME OF THE TENANT. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY WERE ACQUIRED SORT OF LIKE A FRANCHISE OR SOMETHING. THEY GOT BOUGHT INTO, THEY BOUGHT SOLD TO A LARGER GROUP THAT ACQUIRED THEM. NOTHING IS CHANGING IN THE LEASE. ALL WE ARE DOING IS JUST ASSIGNING IT TO THIS NEW PERSON. CORRECT. ENTITY IN CHARGE. CORRECT. OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER JOB? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. SECOND RESOLUTION 109 DASH 2025 SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 11? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT. DID YOU READ IT? OH, I'M SORRY, I'LL READ IT. DID YOU READ THE RESOLUTION? RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF.

YEAH, I READ IT. YOU READ IT? YES, I READ IT BEGINNING. HE READ. IT SHOULD BE FINE. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE DO I HAVE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. SUSIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER SELBY? YES, COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES, MAYOR. COLLINS. YES.

[12. FSP GRANT WITH FIND FOR SAINT LUCIE RIVER RAILROAD BRIDGE (RC): RESOLUTION No. 110-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA SUPPORTING THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (USDOT) FED-STATE PARTNERSHIP FOR INTERCITY PASSENGER RAIL PROGRAM (FSP) APPLICATION FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ST. LUCIE RIVER RAILROAD BRIDGE, AUTHORIZING THE CO-APPLICATION WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT (FIND), ACCEPTANCE IF APPROVED, AND EXECUTION THEREOF; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. AND VICE MAYOR REED. YES. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM 12, FSP GRANT WITH FIND RESOLUTION NUMBER 110 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, SUPPORTING THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. FED STATE PARTNERSHIP FOR INTERCITY PASSENGER RAIL PROGRAM APPLICATION FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER RAILROAD BRIDGE. AUTHORIZING THE CO-APPLICATION WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT. ACCEPTANCE, IF APPROVED, AND EXECUTION THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON THIS? I THINK IT'S SUCH A HUGE WIN AND PEOPLE REALLY SHOULD HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. YES, I'D BE HAPPY TO. AND WE HAD A FORMER EMPLOYEE, JACKIE MAY, AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED, WAS OUR IN-HOUSE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR. AND WHEN SHE EXITED, I TOOK OVER THOSE DUTIES TEMPORARILY. WE HAVE NOW PROCURED A GRANT MANAGEMENT FIRM THROUGH PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BUT I INHERITED THE MEGA GRANT, WHICH WAS THE $130 MILLION GRANT SCHEDULED TO REPLACE THE 100 YEAR OLD TRAIN BRIDGE. AND SO. BUT HOWEVER, WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT BECAUSE ALL THE FUNDING HAD TO BE IN PLACE. AND, YOU KNOW, DURING MY TIME AS THE INTERIM MANAGER, YOU GET SOME HARD ONES AND SOME EASY ONES AND THE FIND A LOCAL BOARD TRUSTEE MEMBER AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. AND THEY CAME TO MY OFFICE AND SAID, WE'D JUST LIKE TO FINISH THIS TRAIN BRIDGE AND GIVE YOU $79 MILLION. WE'D LIKE TO JOIN YOU IN APPLYING FOR THIS. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. THE MISSING PIECE, THE MISSING PIECE WAS THIS 79 MILLION. TO FINISH OUT THE PROJECT. THERE'S A LITTLE ROUNDING NOW IN THE FINAL. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 78 MILLION SOMETHING. BUT THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM WAS 79. WE DID IT. I WENT TO THE FINE BOARD MEETING, AND I TO SAY THAT THEY WERE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS

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VOTE THAT THEY PARTNERED WITH US. THEY'VE HAD SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS WITH US IN THE PAST. THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO REPLACE THE 100 YEAR OLD SINGLE TRACK BRIDGE WITH A BRIDGE THAT GOES FROM APPROXIMATELY 50FT WIDE TO 90FT WIDE, ALLOWING BOATS TO PASS BESIDE EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF HITTING THE BUMPERS AND THE PILINGS UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. AND ALSO IT WOULD RAISE IT TO A HEIGHT OF OVER 17FT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW 92 TO 94% OF THE BOAT TRAFFIC TO PASS UNDER IT. WITHOUT RAISING THE BRIDGE. THE BRIDGE WOULD STILL HAVE A DRAWBRIDGE SECTION THAT COULD BE RAISED FOR TALLER BOATS, AND SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A WIN FOR THE MARINER COMMUNITY HERE AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW. AND WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGE, WHICH CLEARLY DEFINITELY NEEDS REPLACEMENT, IT WOULD DOUBLE TRACK THE BRIDGE AS WELL. AND SO I MYSELF HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THESE THINGS WHERE ONE TRAIN WAITS IN THE QUEUE, BLOCKING SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS UNTIL THE OTHER TRAIN CAN GO BY, AND THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY BUILD SPEED TO MOVE ALONG. IF THE TRAIN BRIDGE IS DOUBLE TRACKED, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF A TRAFFIC JAM ANYMORE AS WELL. WITH ALL OF THE PIECES THERE FUNDING WISE. WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE ON THIS BRIDGE ACTUALLY HAPPENING? I MEAN, AT LEAST NOW WE GET TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY PERMITTING AND MOVING FORWARD. BUT THE CURRENT TIMELINE ON IT IS INCLUDED AS A GANTT CHART IN HERE, 2032 IS WHEN THEY EXPECT THE BRIDGE TO BE, YOU KNOW, OPEN AND RUNNING. WELL, IT'S LASTED 100 YEARS NOW. SO WE, YOU KNOW, SO BUT NO IT IT'S A IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROJECT. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH. FINE.

WHEN I WENT TO THEIR BOARD MEETING, I TOLD THEM THAT WE ARE A TRAINED CITY AND A FINE CITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WALK AROUND THE PENINSULA HERE ON THE RIVERWALK WITHOUT SEEING MULTIPLE SIGNS THAT SAY THIS RIVERWALK MADE POSSIBLE BY FIND. YOU KNOW, THIS DOCK MADE POSSIBLE BY. FINE. SO WE'VE HAD A LONG, ILLUSTRIOUS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT. COMMENTS FOR STAFF. NO. MR. MAYOR, DID YOU GUYS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I JUST WE'RE THANKFUL FOR YOU. IT'S A QUESTION. YES, SIR. MICHAEL KENNEDY. I'M THE FINE COMMISSIONER FOR MARTIN COUNTY. WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING WITH YOU. WE SEE THE VALUE OF HAVING THE CITY STEP UP ON THIS. AND THIS IS THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY. THIS IS A MAJOR WATERWAY. IT'S HOW PEOPLE FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE BRIDGE GET TO YOUR BEAUTIFUL WATERFRONT OVER HERE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEYOND THAT. IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. WE'RE JUST THANKFUL FOR YOU WITH REGARD TO THE DOCKS AS WELL, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. WELL, IT'S THINGS WE ALL USE TO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S ONE TESTIMONY WITH REGARD TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 110 DASH 2025. OH, MR. I'LL HOLD IT BACK UNTIL MR. COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR, I GET MAINLY A STATEMENT JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE. SO IT'S A $262 MILLION PROJECT AND TAXPAYERS PAY FOR 90% OF IT. OBVIOUSLY, I SUPPORT THE BRIDGE.

I'M A BOATER MYSELF. BUT THE PRIVATE FUNDS COMING FROM BRIGHTLINE AND EFFEXOR IS ONLY 26 MILLION, WHICH EQUATES TO 10% OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I WISH YOU HAD MORE INSIGHT INTO MAYBE WHY THEY DIDN'T PAY MORE, WHY IT GETS PUT MORE ONTO THE TAXPAYERS, OR IS IT IS WHAT IT IS SCENARIO. AND WE'RE UP HERE AND WE'RE A YES VOTE. MERRITT. YOU MIGHT KNOW MORE AS WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE WONDER WHY IT COSTS SO MUCH TO LIVE. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE IN MY OPINION. UNLESS YOU GUYS KNOW MORE THAN I DO ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. BUT MAINLY JUST THE STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MR. VICE MAYOR. POLITICS AT ITS FINEST, I GUESS. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 12, RESOLUTION NUMBER 110 2025, MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AS PUBLISHED AND DISCUSSED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 12? YES. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, TO FILL OUT A GREEN CARD, I'LL FILL ONE OUT. MERRITT MATHESON 506 SOUTHWEST SOUTH CAROLINA DRIVE.

THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. IN THE PAST 4 OR 5 YEARS. THE CITY'S CONSIDERED IN A WAY, I AGREE WITH SANTA. BEEN WAITING ALL NIGHT TO SAY THAT UP THERE. BUT. YOU KNOW. ALL THE DEBATE ABOUT BRIGHT LINE ASIDE, IT'S A

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100 YEAR OLD BRIDGE. IT'S THE ONLY SINGLE TRACK, RIGHT? RIGHT THERE. AND WE'VE ALL SEEN IT WITH A FREIGHT TRAIN GOING SLOW. AND THIS WAS ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES AS MAYOR, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF BOATS, BUT BECAUSE WHEN THAT FREIGHT TRAIN IS BACKED UP THROUGH OUR TOWN, BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE TRACK. AND FOR SOME CRAZY REASON, BRIGHTLINE GOT APPROVED TO TRAVEL ON THAT ONLY 100 YEAR OLD TRACK. BUT THAT'S THE REALITY. SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MAKING THAT REALITY WORK FOR THE TAXPAYERS, WHICH IS DOUBLE TRACKING THAT BRIDGE AND RAISING IT TO LOGISTICAL STANDARDS. AND THAT'S ALL I WORKED WITH WITH BRIGHTLINE FOR SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS MAYOR. THOSE LOGISTICAL STANDARDS WERE RAISED THAT BRIDGE HIGHER THAN THE OLD ROOSEVELT AUTO BRIDGE, BECAUSE ANY CENTER CONSOLE BOAT CAN GET UNDER THE ROOSEVELT AUTO BRIDGE, AND TWO OF THEM CAN PASS SIDE BY SIDE UNDER THAT BRIDGE. SO MAKE THAT THE LIMITING FACTOR. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL DO. RIGHT NOW THE LIMITING FACTOR IS THE TRAIN BRIDGE. BOATS CAN'T GET UNDER IT AND THEY CAN'T PASS SIDE BY SIDE ON IT. THIS WILL CHANGE ALL OF THAT. AND IT WILL ALSO BENEFIT OUR ENTIRE TOWN, BECAUSE WE WILL ALLEVIATE THE BACKUP THAT HAPPENS WITH THE SINGLE TRACK. THAT IN AND OF ITSELF MAKES US WORTHWHILE.

TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IT, JUST LIKE WE PAY FOR OUR ROAD NETWORK THAT SEMI TRUCKS AND AMAZON TRUCKS AND ALL THEIR TRUCKS TRAVEL ON AND BENEFIT FROM. SO SEPARATE THIS FROM THE BRIGHTLINE STATION. THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BRIDGE. AND IT TOOK ANOTHER SIX MONTHS ME WORKING, SWALLOWING MY PRIDE AND WORKING WITH BRIGHTLINE TO GET THE ALMIGHTY FCC TO APPROVE THE PLANS WE CAME UP WITH. JUST LIKE HOW THEY COULD TAKE AWAY ALL DOWNTOWN'S PARKING, THOSE 11 SPOTS, OR JACK THE RENT UP ANY TIME, TOOK SIX MONTHS FOR THEM TO SIGN OFF ON THE PLANS WE CAME UP WITH FOR THIS BRIDGE TO BE RAISED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND THAT'S THE REALITY FOR MANY MORE REASONS THAN I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT. BUT FOR BOATERS AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVER STEP FOOT ON THE WATER, THAT JUST WANT TO CROSS THOSE TRACKS WITHOUT A BACKED UP TRAIN ACROSS THEM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DID YOU AND I KNOW YOU WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS. DID YOU FORESEE ANY ISSUES WITH THE ACTUAL HEIGHT, LIKE COMING FROM WILLIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH TOWER? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE. THEY CAN STILL RAISE THE BRIDGE.

OKAY. SO IT'S JUST OKAY. IF THIS IS DONE, THE LIMITING FACTOR WILL BE THE ROOSEVELT AUTO BRIDGE. SO ANYONE WHO CAN GET A BOAT UNDER THAT BRIDGE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT UNDER THE NEW BRIDGE. GOTCHA. NOW, THE LIMITING FACTOR WHEN IT'S DONE WILL BE THE AUTO BRIDGE.

AND IT'S THE ONLY CROSS FLORIDA WATERWAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MARY, DO WE HAVE I DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. ROBERT MCKEEN. GOOD EVENING. ROBERT MCKEEN PRESIDENT, CITY OF STUART, BUSINESS OWNER AND REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION, TREASURE COAST. I WOULD LIKE TO BE REMEMBERED AS THE SHORTEST PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. THIS BRIDGE DESIGN SOLVES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. WE'VE HEARD IT ALREADY. IT IS WIDER. IT IS TALLER. IT SOLVES THE DOGLEG PROBLEM GOING THROUGH THE REST OF THE BRIDGES. THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING. THIS IS WHAT THE MARINE INDUSTRY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BECAUSE A TUNNEL IS NOT POSSIBLE. THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BEAUTIFUL. HELEN MCBRIDE. HELEN MCBRIDE, FLAMINGO AVENUE. IT'S WHAT SEAN SAID THAT MADE ME JUMP UP. HOW MUCH OF THE CITY'S TAXPAYERS ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING? YOU SAID 22% IS WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. AND DOES THAT MAKE THE 78% OF THE TAXPAYER PAYING? OH, YEAH, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL GRANTS. SO IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY LIKE IT'S NOT CITY OF STUART. YES. WELL IT'S REDISTRIBUTED FROM OUR STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WELL WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN IS A AN IN-KIND MATCH OF $250,000 WORTH OF LAND VALUE ON

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THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE THE THE NEW BRIDGE WILL LAND A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT. SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THIS BRIDGE DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE NEW PIECE WILL LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST TO THE RIGHT OF IT. I'M NOT A VOTER, BUT I DO KNOW BECAUSE BOB WAS A VOTE ABOUT THE LAND. IT WAS JUST WHEN YOU SAID 22%, I'M THINKING, OH, 79% OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY. I'M JUMPING UP THERE. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU. I HAVE JANET ZIMMERMAN. THANK YOU.

JANET. JANET ZIMMERMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT, 1314 MARCINSKI ROAD IN JUPITER, FLORIDA. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE GREAT PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BROUGHT. WE LIKE TO HOLD UP THE CITY OF STUART AS ONE OF OUR SHINING GRANT PARTICIPANTS WITH YOUR WATERFRONT, YOUR DOCK, AND AND THE ALL THE PUBLIC ACCESS THAT YOU PROVIDE TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS HERE IN STUART. GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'RE AFFORDED HERE TODAY TO HELP SUPPORT REPLACING THIS BRIDGE.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT MOVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT OPPORTUNITY IS BECAUSE OF YOU.

I MEAN, THAT YOU CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE CREDIT HERE.

YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMISSION? LET'S GET GOING. ALRIGHT. SEEING NO COMMENTS, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, MARY? SURE. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES. MAYOR. COLLINS. YES, YES. MOVING ON TO ITEM 13. RESOLUTION NUMBER 111

[13. AIHC COMPENSATION FOR INTERIM CITY MANAGER (RC): RESOLUTION No. 111-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN COMPENSATION FOR THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER WHILE ACTING IN A HIGHER CAPACITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN COMPENSATION FOR THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER WHILE ACTING IN A HIGHER CAPACITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES ON. AS YOU RECALL, ON OCTOBER 27TH, THE CITY COMMISSION APPOINTED MR. BOGLIOLI AS THE WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AT THIS POINT WILL CONTINUE TO PERFORMING HIS REGULAR DUTIES. IN ADDITION TO TAKING ON THE DUTIES AS CITY MANAGER, SECTION 19 OF THE CITY'S EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION IN AN AMOUNT OF 5% FOR EMPLOYEES, WHILE ACTING IN HIGHER CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF TEN WORKING DAYS.

HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN THE CITY'S PRACTICE THAT WHEN AN EMPLOYEE IS DESIGNATED AS AN INTERIM IN EXCESS OF 30 DAYS AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE JOB DUTIES OF BOTH POSITIONS THAT HE OR SHE IS ENTITLED TO, UP TO TEN ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION, 10% ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION. ROSS JOHNSON, OUR OUR HR DIRECTOR, IS OUT OF TOWN, BUT THE ACTING HR DIRECTOR, CARRIE CHAMBERS, IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. AS FAR AS OUR PRACTICE IN THE PAST WITH OTHER DIRECTORS AND PRIOR CITY MANAGERS, SHE'S HERE AND AVAILABLE, AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO THE EFFECT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR MISS MISS CHAMBERS, WE'RE HERE. GOOD EVENING FROM HER. GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. I AM KAREN CHAMBERS, COFFEE HR PROGRAMS ANALYST WITH THE CITY.

AND AS MR. BAGGET MENTIONED, THAT IS A WE DO HAVE PRECEDENCE TO TO ADVISE THE 10% ACTING IN HIGH CAPACITY BASED ON THE DURATION AND THE POSITION. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS. OH, JUST A STATEMENT.

I KNOW JOLIE AT THE TIME WHEN WE HAD SPOKE, I KNOW HE WASN'T INTERESTED IN IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT EXISTS IN THE CITY HANDBOOK. THAT WAS MY COMMENT. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE. OH, SORRY YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON. HE'S FLASHING ME DOWN THERE. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO I WAS IN ORLANDO FOR TWO DAYS WITH MANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND I WAS DELIGHTED TO LEARN THE HIGH LEVEL OF COMPETENCE THAT JOLIE PROVIDES US AS OUR CFO. IN ESSENCE, I WAS JUST I WAS UNBELIEVABLE WHAT I HEARD, WHAT GOES ON AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. SO THE FACT THAT HE PERFORMS THAT VERY DIFFICULT TASK AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL AND TAKEN ON THE EXTENSIVE RESPONSIBILITIES AND HAVING TO LISTEN TO THE FIVE OF US AS CITY MANAGER, I'M HAPPY

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TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HIM WITH THIS ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION. COMMISSIONER JOB, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO. I WANT TO THANK JOLIE FOR ALL HIS DEDICATION AND HE DOES BOTH JOBS JUST BEYOND BEYOND PRAISE. HE JUST DOES A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MR. MAYOR, CAN MOTION? YES, MA'AM. WITH REGARD TO THE COMPENSATION DISCUSSED IN RESOLUTION NUMBER 111 DASH 2025 AS PUBLISHED AND BASICALLY IS DISCUSSED. THAT WE MOVE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 13? AND OH, COMMISSIONERS. YES. I FORGOT WHEN I, WHEN I READ THIS AND I DISCUSSED IT WITH JOLIE, IS IT RETROACTIVE TO THE TIME OF APPOINTMENT AND THEN TO THE FUTURE OR JUST FROM TODAY? WHEN WAS THAT AGAIN? THAT THAT IS HOW ROSS WORDED IT IN THE ITEM AND HOW THE RESOLUTION AND THE AGENDA ITEM IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. ON THE DAY THAT YOU APPOINTED ME, MOST OF THE TIME IT IS A RETRO BECAUSE WHEN THIS HAPPENS WITH SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME, I WILL ADD WHEN IT ADDS IT, WHEN IT HAPPENS AT A LOWER LEVEL, YOU USUALLY HAVE TO LOOK BACK A COUPLE DAYS TO MAKE SURE IT LASTED MORE THAN ONE DAY. LIKE IF IT LASTS MORE THAN ONE DAY, YOU KNOW THEY CAN LOOK BACK A LOT OF MONEY. AND SECONDLY, BECAUSE IT IS THIS POSITION YOU YOU ARE THE SUPERVISORS AND NORMALLY AT THE LOWER LEVEL IT WOULD GO THROUGH HR AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. IT WOULD BE DONE. BUT SINCE YOU'RE MY DEPARTMENT HEADS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS PUBLIC LIKE THIS. SO THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE RETRO. AND THEN IN TERMS OF WHEN IT WHEN IT WOULD END THE DAY, YOU TELL ME I'M DONE HERE. RIGHT. NOT DONE HERE. IT'S DONE IN THIS ROLE. YEAH. NO LONGER THE DAY THE DAY YOU YOU LET ME RETURN TO NORMAL LIFE. YEAH.

LEE, DID YOU HAVE A POINT? NO, NO, IT WAS IT WAS JUST WHEN HE WAS DONE ACTING AS THE DEPARTMENT, AS THE FINANCE OR AS THE INTERIM. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, IF THAT'S TRUE, EITHER ONE. AND JUST MY COMMENTS WOULD BE, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE OFTEN. YOU KNOW, MOST OF US ARE IN BED AND YOU'RE STILL HERE WORKING. SO I THINK YOU'RE MORE THAN DESERVING OF OF THE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION. YOU PROBABLY NEED TO SLEEP MORE. ON SUNDAY BECAUSE SUNDAY MORNING, SHE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME TO TAKE SUNDAY OFF AND RELAX. AND I'M LIKE, I'LL, I'LL ONLY WORK HALF THE DAY ON SUNDAY. THANK YOU. BUT I, I APPRECIATE IN THIS TIME OF TRANSITION YOUR CONSISTENCY AND HOW HARD YOU'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS STAYING FUNCTIONAL, KEEPING THE CITY YOU KNOW FROM HAVING LARGER ISSUES. IT'S A BIG DEAL WHEN YOU MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, A NEW CITY MANAGER AND IT COULD EASILY BE A COMPLETE MESS HERE.

AND YOU'RE DOING AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF KEEPING IT TOGETHER. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, TOWARDS US AND TOWARDS STAFF AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. COMMISSIONER RICH SAID EARLIER, IF YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. FANTASTIC. AND THAT IS THAT IS MY WHOLE GOAL HERE TO KEEP IT RUNNING. AND IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, THEN THE CITY'S SUCCESSFUL. EVERYONE'S SUCCESSFUL. MAKE SURE THE TRASH GETS PICKED UP. MAKE SURE THE TRASH GETS PICKED UP AND SEWER.

YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S IN A 4X4 PILE, WE'LL PICK IT UP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS SEEING NONE. MISS MARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES. VICE MAYOR REED. NO. MAYOR. COLLINS. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES,

[15. COMMISSION ACTION TO APPROVE A RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF A CITY MANAGER; ESTABLISHING TARGET DATES; AN INTERVIEW METHODOLOGY; AND A SALARY RANGE]

COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. OKAY. AND THEN MOVING ON TO ITEM 15. YES. IT'S THERE'S NO RESOLUTION.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE ITEM CARRIE AND I ARE GOING TO TAG TEAM ON THIS. CARRIE, IF YOU WOULD START FIRST, PLEASE. YES. SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A PACKET THAT INCLUDES A MEMORANDUM FROM HR DIRECTOR WITH THE OPTIONS FOR THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS. ALSO, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PROCESS, WHAT THAT INVOLVES THE TIME PERIOD AND EVERYTHING. AND THERE'S ALSO A SAMPLE WHICH IS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S RECRUITMENT THAT'S IN THERE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID IT IN-HOUSE. OKAY. SO JUST FOR BACKGROUND, SIMILAR TO WE HAD DIRECTION TO MAKE THIS SIMILAR TO THE SEARCH FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO WHAT WE'VE PREPARED IN THE PACKET HERE IS THE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN SHOP FROM, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISING INTERNALLY ADVERTISING EXTERNALLY. WE WE HAD THE STAFF, WE HAD THE HR STAFF. ROZ AND CARRIE AND HER TEAM HANDLED THAT ADVERTISEMENT LAST TIME. IF YOU TRUSTED THE

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STAFF TO DO THAT AGAIN, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY SAVE US THE MONEY OF NOT DOING A HEADHUNTER OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF SERVICE. AND THEN ALSO WE'VE PROVIDED A A TENTATIVE CALENDAR HERE BASED ON WHAT YOU WOULD SELECT AS THE PROCESS THAT YOU WANT TO FOLLOW. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT SCHEDULE. BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE SOME DECISIONS. TONIGHT WE BEGIN ADVERTISING, PUT IT OUT THERE. WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS, BE THEY WHEREVER THEY ORIGINATE FROM. WE REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS WITH A WITH A COMMITTEE THAT IS SELECTED. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I WOULD NOT BE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER BY MARCH 23RD. SO OR SOONER LIKE WHEN WE. BUT NO, NO, AS LONG AS YOU NEED ME, I'LL DO IT IF THE PROCESS TAKES LONGER. I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE, OPTIMISTIC CALENDAR OF TIME. IT THE ONLY POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE WAS LIKE WHEN WE HIRED RUTH, WE HAD WE WENT THROUGH TWO ROUNDS AND RUTH ACTUALLY APPLIED IN THE SECOND.

SO YES, SIR THERE'S THE ABILITY THERE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ROUNDS. ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS JUST AN IDEAL CALENDAR OF YOU HIT IT THE FIRST TIME AND EVERYTHING FIRED ON ALL CYLINDERS. IF THERE IS A A LONGER PROCESS, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, THE WORD'S ALREADY OUT. I WAS APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TWO DAYS IN ORLANDO, SO I KNOW IT SAYS ADVERTISING STARTS JANUARY 5TH, BUT BELIEVE ME, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GAIN THIS POSITION ARE ARE ALREADY AWARE. SO NICE. SO ARE WE.

WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. ARE WE GIVING UP THE I MEAN I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS STAYING IN-HOUSE. OKAY. MY MY DIRECTION I THINK WOULD BE TO GO IN IS NUMBER FOUR WHERE WE'RE POSTING LIKE WE DID FOR OUR OTHER POSITIONS. SO I, I OKAY SO IF I'M SAYING STAYING IN HOUSE I'M SAYING PROMOTING PROMOTING FROM WITHIN LIKE PROMOTING OUR INTERIM TO BE OUR CITY MANAGER.

I'M NOT AGAINST THAT. BUT HAVING THEM GO THROUGH THAT, THAT SAME PROCESS THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE APPLICATIONS TO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, NOT TO INTERRUPT THE FLOW. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I AM NOT ON THE BOARD HERE. I'M NOT I'M NOT ON THE TABLE. I'M NOT ON THE MENU FOR THIS. I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU. YEAH. I'M I'M NOT I WOULD SAY NOT ON COLUMN A OR B AT THIS TIME AND EFFORT IF WE IF WE WORK, IF WE AGREE, IF WE COULD IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND I MEAN WHY WOULD WE FORECLOSE ANYONE. JUST IF THAT'S YOUR CHOICE IN YOUR DECISION, COMMISSIONER CLERK, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. BUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'VE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VET ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, CORRECT. I AGREE IT IS OUR TYPICAL PRACTICE AND KERRY CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME.

THERE'S AN OPENING. WE ADVERTISE INTERNALLY FOR SEVEN DAYS. SO BASICALLY IT GOES ON THE CORK BOARDS BY THE WATER COOLERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YOU KNOW I'M I'M SERIOUS.

AND THEN AFTER IT'S BEEN IN FOR SEVEN DAYS ALLOWING INTERNAL APPLICANTS TO APPLY FOR THOSE JOBS, THEN WE GO AND ADVERTISE OUT AND IT WOULD JUST BE AN APPLICATION IN THE POOL OF OTHER APPLICATIONS YOU RECEIVE. FOR ME, I'D RATHER JUST GO STRAIGHT WITH FOUR. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO APPLY, APPLY INTERNALLY. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT APPLICATION, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DELAY THE PROCESS. JUST JUST LET'S GET IT DONE. AND LET'S I GUESS THAT'S THE DIRECTION, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TONIGHT. STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, MY PERSPECTIVE. YES, SIR. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M. I'M SPEAKING TO THE BOARD AS A TOTAL. ARE YOU SAYING LIKE, HEY, TOMORROW MORNING, YOU WANT THIS OUT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TIME TO DO THE DATE RANGE OF JANUARY 5TH. AND I WANT TO SAY JUST, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GET TOO INTO IT. THANK YOU, ROZ, FOR THROWING THIS TOGETHER. NOT JUST THROWING IT TOGETHER, DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. SHE DID A LOT OF WORK. IT WAS YOU. I DON'T KNOW, SHE MADE IT. I'M GIVING CREDIT TO IT. WAS ROSS. YES. THIS WAS THAT MAN. YOU GOT THIS TOGETHER AND IN OUR AGENDA FAST. SO THANK YOU. AND IT'S IT'S A BLESSING HERE TO HAVE THIS SO MUCH IS THREE WEEKS THAN TYPICAL. IS THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS A THREE WEEK ADVERTISEMENT. YEAH WE HAVE, BUT YOU CAN WE CAN EXTEND IT BASED ON I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST. THE MODEL WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY THREE WEEKS. YES. PERFECT. YEAH, 21 DAYS. ARE THERE COMMENTS FROM. YES. I JUST HAVE TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THIS IS ALWAYS SO FUN TO ME BECAUSE WE GET TO HIRE. SO ONE OF THE ITEMS, ONE OF THE PROFICIENCIES THAT IS REQUIRED IS ABILITY TO WORK WITH MATHEMATICAL CONCEPTS SUCH AS PROBABILITY AND STATISTICAL INFERENCE, AND FUNDAMENTALS OF PLANE AND SOLID GEOMETRY AND TRIGONOMETRY. REALLY? AND HOW

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ARE WE GOING TO EVALUATE THAT COMPETENCE? MAYBE TAKE THAT OUT. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BOILERPLATE. NO, NO. HERE'S HERE'S MY FAVORITE. AND I AND I WANT JOLIE TO ADMINISTER THIS COMPETENCY. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN THE 30 TASK INVOLVES REGULAR PHYSICAL EFFORT AND FREQUENT MODERATE LIFTING. AND THE ABILITY OF CARRYING OBJECTS OF MODERATE WEIGHT. 30 POUNDS. CAN I BE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE TEST THAT? AND AT WHAT POINT DO YOU START TO GET INTO LIKE PHYSICAL DISCRIMINATION? YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BENCH PRESS 200 POUNDS OR YOU CAN'T BE THE BASIC, BASIC, I KNOW. SORRY. WELL, I UNDERSTAND MATH AND STATISTICS IN CHURCH, BUT SO LET ME GEOMETRY LET ME ADD THIS TO THE HISTORY. SO THERE'S A PLAQUE THAT WE NEEDED TO ORDER THAT WAS ON A PEDESTAL. AND THEY WANTED IT TO BE SHAVED OFF LIKE THIS. OH OKAY. I CALCULATED THE MATH ON HOW BIG THE PLAQUE NEEDED TO BE USING THE PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM AND THE MEASUREMENTS OF THE BLOCK. SO IT DOES HAPPEN. OH MY GOD. AND WE ONLY GAVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 5%. YEAH. CAN HE OR SHE JUST CALL YOU PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM? IN TERMS OF KIDS WHEN YOU'RE IN SCHOOL AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHEN AM I EVER GOING TO DO THIS IN REAL LIFE? THAT'S WHEN. WELL, ALTERNATIVE FOR IN TERMS OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION HERE, WE DID NOT ADD ANY. DO WE NEED TO PUT SALARY. WELL WE YOU KNOW YOU'RE POINTING OUT THIS THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROFICIENT PROFICIENCY IN IN PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM. WE TRY TO UPDATE IT FOR SOME OF THE OUTDATED STUFF AND AND DO THAT. I THINK THAT IN ROZ'S MEMO SOMEWHERE WE WERE SAYING THAT. FLORIDA EXPERIENCE WAS, YOU KNOW, A BONUS, RIGHT. WE WOULD WE WOULD LIKE FLORIDA EXPERIENCE. THEY WOULD BE IT WOULD ADD VALUE TO THE CANDIDATE IF THEY HAD FLORIDA GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT MAKING THAT MANDATORY. I, I THAT WASN'T THE SENSE OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAD WAS TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE. YES. I THINK WE'VE TAKEN OUT THE TRIGONOMETRY PART. I MEAN, I LIKE THAT PART LIKE THAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. I JUST FEEL LIKE SO SPECIFICALLY SEE THIS HERE ON ITEM UNDER REQUIREMENTS ITEM A IN THE STRIKE THROUGH.

SO BEFORE WE HAD MUST YOU KNOW, HAVE A VALID FLORIDA DRIVER'S LICENSE. NOW IT'S YOU WILL GET ONE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THAT SPOKE DIRECTLY TO NOT REQUIRING THE PERSON BEING SUSPENDED. SORRY, SORRY. ARE WE GOING TO PUT A SALARY RANGE IN MR. THAT'S YOU KNOW, ANY DIRECTION THAT THE THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GIVE US TONIGHT WOULD HELP IN THE ADVERTISEMENT OR IN THE PROCESS? I'M ASKING OKAY. SO I'D SAY WE TAKE OUT TRIGONOMETRY. YOU KNOW, WE'D HATE TO LOSE A GOOD PERSON UNLESS YOU GUYS REALLY ARE MARRIED TO THAT. AND THEN IN TURN, THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO US IN THE FORM OF OF A EXACT JOB DESCRIPTION AND SALARY RANGE THAT WE APPROVE. GIVEN THAT YOU WERE HAPPY WITH THE JANUARY 5TH ADVERTISEMENT, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE OUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. OKAY. SO SO I MEAN, I COULD WE CAN'T GET BOARD APPROVAL AND ACTION THROUGH EMAIL. SO BECAUSE NORMALLY THAT SALARY RANGE IS PART OF THE ADVERTISEMENT. YES. YEAH. CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEN WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THAT MEETING TO FINALIZE THAT. I WOULD THINK I WOULD THINK SO.

I'M NOT TRYING TO RAIN ON YOUR PARADE ABOUT YOU LIKE THIS TIMELINE, BUT WITH THE AGENDAS, THE WAY THEY LINE UP, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE FIRST MEETING. OKAY. YEAH. NOW THAT COULD BE THE NEXT MORNING. IF AT THAT MEETING YOU LIKED IT TUESDAY MORNING, IT COULD, YOU KNOW, GO OUT. THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THAT. OKAY. THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

YOU RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE IT BUTTONED UP AND READY TO GO FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE RANGE. WHAT THE BROCHURE LOOKS LIKE INSTEAD OF JUST THE SAMPLE. CITY ATTORNEY ONE. WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT READY. RIGHT. CARRIE, YOU'RE MAKING NOTES, OKAY. YES. AND THEN. AND THEN MONDAY NIGHT.

YOU YOU LIKE IT? YOU ADOPT IT. TUESDAY MORNING, IT GOES OUT THAT WAY. THERE ARE OTHER FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS AROUND THIS. AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING LOOKS GOOD. AS FAR AS LIKE THE THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, I'D LIKE TO SEE CERTAIN DEPARTMENT HEADS BE A PART OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSS NOW OR AT THE FUTURE MEETING. AT THAT MEETING, OKAY. BECAUSE WE HAD CERTAIN DEPARTMENT HEADS I THINK SHOULD HAVE A SAY SO IN, IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. LIKE IF THEY COULD JOIN US. LIKE, I KNOW WHEN WE INTERVIEWED RUTH, LIKE I HAD LEE WITH ME, I JUST THINK, LIKE WITH ME. YEAH, I JUST THINK LIKE MAYBE FIRE POLICE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL HR, THEY SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. COMMISSIONERS ARE FREE TO BRING ANYONE THEY WANT INTO THEIR INTERVIEWS WITH THEM. SO REQUIREMENT. BUT YEAH, I HAVE

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MY LIGHT ON. SO WHEN WHEN WE HAD THE CITY MANAGER, WE HAD THE COMMUNITY, WE HAD THE COMMUNITY GROUP AND WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE STAFF WHO WERE THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT DOWN THE HARBOR. LET'S SAY WE HAVE 100 APPLICATIONS. THEY BRING THAT DOWN TO LIKE 5 OR 7 AND BRING IT TO US, AND THEN WE ASK FOR 3 OR 4 OR WHATEVER TO COME IN FRONT OF US. AND THEN BEFORE THEY COME TO US, THEY MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, OR WE HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE ALL APPOINT TO A ONE TIME AD HOC BOARD THAT MEETS WITH THEM AND TALKS TO THEM HERE. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO LISTEN TO THAT AND THEN, YEAH, THAT'S IT. SO THE STAFF COMMITTEE PEERS DOWN THE 100 APPLICATIONS TO 6 OR 7, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS THAT WE TELL THEM. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE THOSE 3 OR 4, WE APPOINT SET OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO SIT HERE AND JUST LISTEN TO THEM. THEY'LL WHATEVER THEY'LL COME IN AND DO THEIR SPIEL. THAT PART'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP FROM WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED. WE'VE KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANTED THAT. DAVE DYESS OR DAVE ROSS, WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN WE HAD DAVE ROSS, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A FULL OUT BLOWN THING. WHEN WE HIRED DAVE ROSS, WE DID IT FROM THE DYESS WHERE WE APPOINTED HIM TO COME OVER. HE WAS INTERIM AT THE TIME ALSO, AND I THINK WE APPOINTED HIM TO COME OVER THE DYESS DAVE DIAS YEAH, BUT WHEN WE WERE COMPLETELY OFF THE BOARD BECAUSE GOING CLEAN THEN WE HAD AND WE HAD TO LOOK AT EVERYBODY FROM OUTSIDE EVERYWHERE. THEN WE WE HAD THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. THE COMMUNITY ASKED TO BE INVOLVED. OKAY. WITH REGARD TO THAT PANEL, IF YOU REMEMBER, LIKE WITH RUTH, THERE WAS ONE OF US AND THEN SOME DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THERE. RYAN WAS ON THERE, ROSS WAS ON THERE. THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY. YOU DON'T WANT IT TO GET TOO SATURATED WITH PEOPLE, BUT A COUPLE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S ONE OR 2 OR 3, MAYBE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT REALLY SHOULD BE IN THERE, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, SORT OF YOUR POINT, BRINGING THEM WITH YOU IN THE ROOM WHEN YOU INTERVIEW THEM. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SET THAT COMMITTEE UP, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN NOT NEXT TIME BECAUSE YOU GOT A THREE WEEK PERIOD, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE NEXT MEETING WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT COMMITTEE. YES, SIR. WE COULD YOU COULD SELECT THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE WHILE THE ADVERTISEMENT WAS STILL GOING ON. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. MR. MAYOR.

YES. REAL QUICK THOUGH, IF YOU IF YOU'RE THINKING WE RAN INTO A PROBLEM IN HIRING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, I WAS ORIGINALLY ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND THEN I COULDN'T BE THE LAWYER AND BE THE COMMITTEE. SO JUST KEEP ME OFF THE COMMITTEE. SO YOU'LL BE MISSED. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I GET FIVE APPS. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL I BELIEVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL. YES. THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTS, IF YOU WOULD TURN IN YOUR GREEN CARD, I'LL HEAR THOSE. NOW. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS FOR STAFF FROM. THANK YOU. NO MARKS HERE. MARKS HERE. HELLO AGAIN COMMISSIONERS. I WAS ONCE PART OF A BOARD WHERE SOMEBODY SAID, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE BEST CANDIDATE? AND THE COMMENT WAS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER APPLICANTS ARE, SO YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE BEST CANDIDATE. SO TO THE POINT THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER APPOINTING SOMEBODY, AS WAS REFERENCED EARLIER IN A COMMENT, I THINK YOU TAKE AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE CONSIDERED. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER.

THERE WAS A THERE WAS A MOTION MADE TO APPOINT THE THEN CITY ATTORNEY TO BE THE CITY MANAGER, AND IT REMOVED A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER APPLICATIONS TO COME IN. THERE WAS ONLY ONE OTHER AT THE TIME, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC. THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. SO THE ONE APPLICANT HAD FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION, PROVIDED A RESUME, PROVIDED REFERENCES, ETC. AND THEN YOU HAD A NOMINATION FOR SOMEBODY TO BE CONSIDERED WITH NO CONSIDERATION OF AN APPLICATION. IT WAS JUST BASED ON HIS PREVIOUS WORK WITH THE COMMISSION, AND I FEEL THAT'S A COMPLETE DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VIEWING THIS PROCESS WHO MIGHT PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS. SO EVEN IF YOU CHOOSE TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN APPLICANT FOR CONSIDERATION, I THINK YOU NEED TO REQUIRE THAT THEY FILL OUT ALL OF THE SAME PAPERWORK SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A TRUST IN THE PROCESS AND IN THE INTEGRITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU ALSO LOOK AT ADDING SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN ADDITION TO THE NEW CITY MANAGER. I THINK THIS CITY COULD USE SOMEBODY LIKE A PROJECT MANAGER OR SOMEBODY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMATIC SITUATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING. I UNDERSTAND THE STANCE WITH MR. STANKOVIC FROM THE COMMISSION STANDPOINT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE SOLVED. AND HE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HAMILTONS. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE JUDGES, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A COUPLE

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OTHERS. AND SO THERE'S A CHANCE TO TAKE THOSE PROBLEMS AND ISOLATE THEM TO ONE PERSON WHO COULD PROCESS THAT. I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS STAFF HOLISTICALLY, AND NOT JUST THE ONE POSITION THAT YOU'RE FILLING, PUTTING SOMEBODY IN A ROLE THAT MAY NOT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH ADDRESSING WHAT'S OUTSTANDING. THOSE SITUATIONS TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD RESOLVE THEM. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO COME INTO A MEETING AND NOT HAVE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE SAY, I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM, SO I'M JUST OFFERING TO YOU THAT WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NEW ROLE FOR THE CITY MANAGER FOR WHAT THEY'LL TAKE ON, I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST WITHIN THE CITY TO SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, SO THAT THE ROLE OF THE CITY MANAGER CAN BE THE CITY MANAGER AND NOT HAVE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. DAY ONE WHEN THEY GET HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ROBIN. MARK. MARK 406 SOUTHEAST VINNIE DRIVE, STUART, FLORIDA 34996 I'LL MAKE THE SAME COMMENT I MADE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BEFORE DAVID ROSS WAS WAS SELECTED. YOU KNOW, COMING FROM IN-HOUSE TO THE CITY MANAGER IS MUCH, MUCH BETTER. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THAT. THE ATTORNEYS MOVED IN. THAT'S HAPPENED A COUPLE TIMES. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESSES WITH THAT OVER THE YEARS. THE THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW FOR AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO BE TRAINED TO MOVE INTO THAT SPOT. AND SO WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER POSITION, YOU MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT AND IT GETS TO WHAT ROBIN WAS SAYING IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WE HAVE WE CREATE A POSITION. WE DON'T HAVE TO FILL IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE SHOULD CREATE A POSITION THAT WILL IN-HOUSE TEACH THE NEXT PERSON THAT WE WANT TO BE THE MANAGER, AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE ROLES SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TIE THE MANAGER DOWN AND KEEP THE MANAGER FROM MAYBE GETTING INTO OTHER THINGS. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE POSSIBILITY OF AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS, IMPLEMENTING THAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER COMING IN WOULD KNOW THAT POSITION EXISTED. AND THEN THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND YOU YOU CAN FILL IT ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THE STRENGTHS OF THE MANAGER YOU HIRE. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD POINT. MICHELLE SMITH. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'RE LETTING ME TALK. I FEEL LIKE, YAY, I'M BEING HEARD. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS, HOW DO YOU PICK THE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO BE IN THE ROOM? YOU WANT TO HAVE A SAY OR A AN OBSERVATION OF THE HIRING? I MEAN, MY POINT WOULD BE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU ADVERTISE THAT ON AN AGENDA, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING TO SEE THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT THEY COULD OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AND PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHO'S BEING CONSIDERED OR, YOU KNOW, OR HIRED. OKAY, I JUST IN CASE YOU ALL CAN'T TELL, I DO WANT TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY, WHATEVER WAY I CAN. SO BUT I ALSO YEAH I, I'VE VERY VESTED. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU INFORMATION TO THE CLERK FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD SO THAT YOU'RE IN THAT ADVISORY. YOUR RESUME CAN BE ON FILE. JOSEPH TUMINELLI. OH. YES. HELLO AGAIN. YES, SIR. SO MISS CARTWRIGHT LEFT? YES. THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE MEETING I JUST HAD WITH HER ABOUT FOR ABOUT 2.5 HOURS EARLIER. SO WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS MY SUGGESTIONS. WE HAD THAT MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU. SHE DID SAY THAT I WOULD I WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED SOME A LITTLE BIT OF CREDIT FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. THIS COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGER IS ALWAYS DEALING WITH PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WHO COME IN HERE EVERY MEETING WITH THE SAME PROBLEM. THOSE PROBLEMS NEED TO BE NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. THEY NEED TO BE ASSISTED. SO YOU ARE THE GOVERNING BODY. I HAVE ZERO ISSUES WITH GOING OUTSIDE. I AM AN OUTSIDER, SO I'M NOT INTERNAL ANYMORE. I RESPECT YOUR DECISION COMPLETELY 100%, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF LIKE HIDDEN QUIET TRUTHS THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW. WE'VE HAD REALLY NO GOOD LUCK GOING OUTSIDE IN THE PAST BEFORE. ONE OF WHICH I WOULD SAY NO CANDIDATE WILL EVER, EVER BE ABLE TO STAND HERE AND TALK ABOUT ACCOLADES AND COMPLIMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. NO CANDIDATE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO SAY THEY ANSWERED YOUR CALLS

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AT ANY TIME, AND NO CANDIDATE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY THEY NEVER ONCE LET THE CITY DOWN. THE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITY, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WANTS THAT FOR SURE. THE BEST INTEREST AS WELL AS YOU DO. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE THE CITY OF STUART. I'M GOING TO WAKE UP TOMORROW MORNING STILL LOVING THIS CITY. IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I WANT TO BE HEARD AND I WANT TO MAKE MYSELF CLEAR THAT I THINK IT IS VERY IMPERATIVE THAT THE DECISION MADE BY THIS BOARD IS A GOOD ONE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT. OKAY, OKAY. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM. I HAVE NO COMMENTS.

I WANT TO WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT. MARK. I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH INTERIM CITY MANAGER JOEL LEE ABOUT THIS, ABOUT HAVING SOME SORT OF SUCCESSION PLAN OR EVEN HAVING DEPARTMENT HEADS CROSS TRAINED SO THEY CAN FILL IN OTHER POSITIONS. SO WE DON'T GET STUCK WITH ONE PERSON WITH ALL THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND CAN CONTROL AND CHARACTERIZE IT ALL. AND THEN ALSO TO ADDRESS, I KNOW YOU AS CHIEF TUMINELLI. MY COMMENT TOWARDS THAT IS TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT I'VE TRACKED DOWN FOR MONTHS, HUNDREDS OF HOURS.

JOLIE AND I AND LEE AND JODY. I BELIEVE WITH ONE PARTICULAR PROJECT, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH IT FORWARD IN LIKE A MONTH, LIKE FOUR WEEKS TIME FRAME. THAT'S THAT'S ASTONISHING TO ME BECAUSE I KEPT TRYING TO GET ANSWERS FOR 6 OR 7 MONTHS WITH ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD. SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH IT FORWARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT A LOT. BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ISSUES, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMMISSIONER RICH SAID, WE'RE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND SOME OF US SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON ISSUES. AND IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR SOMEONE IN STAFF TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. SO LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING IN HERE AND BASHING US WITH THE SAME RECURRENT ISSUE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, LIKE IT'S JUST NINE YEARS. IT'S IT'S TOO LONG. SO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. SO THANKS JOE. OH THAT'S HOW I MET YOU. THANK YOU. JOSEPH. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? I HAD ONE POINT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, WHICH, BECAUSE WE'RE IN REORGANIZATION.

WITH REGARD TO THE MAGISTRATE AND BEING MR. NICOLETTI CURRENTLY, I KNOW WE HAVE TWO BACKUPS AS WELL. YES, I WANTED TO YOU KNOW, IT'S I'LL GET INTO REASONS WHY IF IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AGENDA ON WHETHER OR NOT BECAUSE WE'RE IN REORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN MR. NICOLETTI AS OUR MAGISTRATE GOING FORWARD, OR POTENTIALLY SELECT FROM ONE OF THOSE OTHER TWO IN THAT POSITION WITH THE CITY. I WOULDN'T SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA. YES, THAT'S THREE HITS. OKAY. SO IF WE GET THAT AGENDA, I'D APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE GO? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. YES I GOT SOMETHING. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT? YES. FORGIVE ME. YEAH. WELL WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THIS ONE. YEAH. YEAH. BEFORE WE FINISH THIS WE HAD SOMETHING THAT I NEEDED TO ADDRESS. 515 MEETING. YES. I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION. GOING BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH WAS RESOLUTION NUMBER 111 2025, AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN COMPENSATION TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER. OUR OUR RESOLUTION PROPOSED RESOLUTION HAD A BLANK FOR THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE. AND BOTH MYSELF AND MISS MRS. CHAMBERS TALKED ABOUT HOW IT'S BETWEEN 5 AND 10%, 5%.

SO I DON'T I ASKED THE THE CITY CLERK WHETHER YOU GUYS HAD A CONSENSUS ON THE PERCENTAGE, AND SHE DOES NOT RECALL THAT. SO ADDITIONAL FIVE I DIDN'T HEAR ONE EITHER. DO WE NEED TO REOPEN THE CONVERSATION WITH I. I THINK WE WOULD I THINK WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE PRIOR ADOPTION IF WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, BUT AND AND YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING OTHER THAN ADDING WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WAS BECAUSE OUR RESOLUTION THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA HAD A BLANK IN FRONT OF THE PERCENTAGE. IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND,

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WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. I MADE THAT ORIGINAL MOTION SO THAT WE NEED TO THE MAKER OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION NEEDS TO AMEND IT. ACTUALLY ANYBODY CAN, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE A MOTION TO AMEND THE PRIOR ADOPTION. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, THAT'S FINE. I'D LIKE TO AMEND IT TO 10%. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SPOKEN TO WAS A TOTAL OF TEN TOTAL OF TEN. IT'S ACTUALLY TWO 5% INCREMENTS. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. SORRY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. NOPE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? SURE, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. I'M NOT LAST. YES, MAYOR COLLINS. YES, VICE MAYOR. READ. NO. AND.

COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER ITEMS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO

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