[ROLL CALL] [00:00:08] SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING, CITY MANAGER APPLICATION REVIEW AND WATER QUALITY PROJECTS GRANT APPROVAL FEBRUARY 13TH, 2026. WE COULD DO THE ROLL CALL, MARY. SURE. MAYOR COLLINS, VICE MAYOR REED HERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK. HERE. COMMISSIONER. HERE. COMMISSIONER. HERE. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS] COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER RICH. NONE. COMMISSIONER. I HAVE NONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. I HAVE NONE. COMMENTS. OH, I DID HAVE ONE THING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HERE OR ON TV COULD SEE THIS BOOKLET THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE APPLICANTS AND REVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT, HR. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IT WAS MISS COFFEE. YES. THAT DID ALL THE BOOKLETS AS WELL. I'M SORRY. COFFEE. THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT. THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW A LOT OF HANDS IN THE IN THE. KAREN TOOK THE LEAD. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO COMMENTS. COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER I HAVE NONE [APPROVAL OF AGENDA] COMMENTS BY CITY ATTORNEY I HAVE NONE. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED? MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA? HOUSE PUBLISHED. SEEING. NONE. MARY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. [1. AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT EPA GRANT APPLICATION (RC): RESOLUTION No. 15-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING A U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY GRANT APPLICATION FOR WATER QUALITY PROJECTS BENEFITTING THE ST. LUCIE RIVER, INCLUDING MUCK REMOVAL FROM CREEK(S); AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A GRANT AGREEMENT IF AWARDED, AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING ANY MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT; AND AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A PURCHASE ORDER TO GRANT WORKS FOR THE WRITING AND SUBMISSION OF SAID GRANT APPLICATION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] COMMISSION ACTION. LEE. AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT EPA GRANT APPLICATION RESOLUTION NUMBER ONE FIVE DASH 2026 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING A US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY GRANT APPLICATION FOR WATER QUALITY PROJECTS BENEFITING THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER, INCLUDING MUCK REMOVAL FROM CREEKS AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A GRANT AGREEMENT IF AWARDED, AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING ANY MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF A PURCHASE ORDER TO GRANT WORKS FOR THE WRITING AND SUBMISSION OF SAID GRANT APPLICATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND RUTH HOLMES IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THIS RESOLUTION. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED TO THANK RUTH HOLMES, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RUTH. GREAT START. YOU JUST YOU JUST COMMENT. YEAH. ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF. YEAH. IN TERMS OF IN THE TIME FRAMES. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS RUTH HOLMES. SO MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE GRANT IS THAT FIRST OF ALL, THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION IS MARCH 16TH, 2026. SO WE HAVE START WE HURRIED UP WITH GRANT WORKS TO GET US A SCOPE OF WORK AS SOON AS WE COULD. WE RECEIVED IT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. THAT'S HOW QUICKLY THINGS ARE MOVING AND WE JUST GOT NOTICE OF THIS. EARLY LAST WEEK I WAS ON A WEBINAR WITH EPA EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THEY SAID IT TAKES A FEW MONTHS FOR THEM TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOUR YOU HAVE AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT OR PROJECTS FOR THE GRANT. AND ALSO, IN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE AND IN THE COMMUNITY AND WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE CREEK, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE CITY THAT MAY NEED MUCK REMOVAL. SO THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS, IS THAT EACH CREEK WILL BE ITS OWN PROJECT. SO WE'LL APPLY FOR AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW TALKING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. WE'RE LOOKING AT POPPLETON CREEK AND ALSO FRAZIER CREEK FOR. AND THE PROPOSAL FROM THE CITY WILL BE FOR CONVENTIONAL MUCK DREDGING. THE BIG TICKET ITEM IN THAT IS DISPOSAL OF THE MUCK. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT'S IN IT, AND WE DON'T KNOW YET. EACH PROJECT GRANT IS UP TO $1 MILLION. JUST SO THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IF THEY LOOKED AT AT THE CITY FAVORABLY, THAT WOULD BE $2 [00:05:05] MILLION PER CREEK. WHETHER THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS THAT WAY, I DON'T KNOW. I'M ALSO LOOKING AT ANOTHER PROPOSAL WITH A GROUP THAT I THINK PROBABLY SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, THE LAKE OKEECHOBEE RESTORATION INITIATIVE, FOLKS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MARTIN COUNTY, THEY USE A SIMILAR PRODUCT AND SOME OF THEIR PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. IN THE PAST. THEY SAID THAT THAT PRODUCT THAT THE BIOLOGICAL AGENT, IT'S NOT A CHEMICAL AND IT WORKS BEST IN NON FLOW AREAS. SO THESE CREEKS THAT LEAD OUT TO THE RIVER PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THE BEST PROJECTS FOR THAT FOR THAT PRODUCT AS WE UNDERSTAND IT. I ALSO TALKED TO ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS THIS MORNING WHO IS THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE HEAD OF THEIR OPERATIONS DIVISION FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO HE'S A CIVIL ENGINEER. HE'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY DAYS. SO I, I TRUST HIS BACKGROUND AND KNOWLEDGE OF IT. AND HE THINKS THAT A PROPOSAL USING THAT PRODUCT IN THE UPSTREAM AREAS OF, SAY, POPPLETON CREEK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. AND THEN IF IF WE DO GET FUNDING FROM THE EPA, THEN LOOKING AT DREDGING FROM, LIKE KANNER HIGHWAY OUT TO THE MOUTH OF THE RIVER. AND HE ALSO THINKS THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PROJECT IF, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE COULD DO IT, BECAUSE IF WE CAN CLEAN EVERYTHING OUT, WE WOULD REALLY SEE IF THERE IS ANOTHER DISCHARGE EVENT, ANOTHER EXCESSIVE DISCHARGE EVENT FROM THE LAKE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE OVER TIME WHETHER OR NOT A LOT OF THAT MUCK IS COMING FROM TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS COMING ACROSS THE S80. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. I WILL SAY THAT WHEN I, WHEN I TALK TO MARTIN COUNTY, I TALKED TO A COUPLE FOLKS THERE THIS PAST WEEK. THEY THEY RECEIVED THIS GRANT. THEY RECEIVED $500,000 FOR THIS SAME GRANT IN YEARS PAST. AND BECAUSE OF THE VERY STRICT CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE GRANT, THEY ACTUALLY COULDN'T TURN THEIR PROCUREMENT TIMES AROUND. THEY COULDN'T GET THINGS IN PLACE AND HAD TO ACTUALLY GIVE THE MONEY BACK. SO I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT AND FULL DISCLOSURE, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING REALLY HARD AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS GRANT GOING. BUT NOTHING IS A SLAM DUNK. AND NOR IS THIS GRANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. SO YOU YOU HAVE A COMMENT I'LL LET HIM FINISH FIRST. YOU ANTICIPATE RECEIPT OF THE FUNDS JUNE OR JULY SUCCESSFUL. I, I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A 5 TO 6 MONTH TURNAROUND BUT I, I CAN I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE ABOUT THAT. AND THEN HOW LONG WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE. DON'T KNOW YET. RIGHT. IT DEPENDS ABOUT THAT. NO, I REALLY I REALLY DON'T KNOW. I MEAN IT DEPENDS A LOT OF IT. WE HAVE TO DO SEDIMENT TESTING TO SEE WHAT'S IN IT. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT WILL REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, IT MAY REQUIRE UNCONVENTIONAL DISPOSAL OPTIONS. SO I JUST ATTENDED A MEETING OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COUNCIL IN SEBASTIAN ON TUESDAY, AND THEY WERE REVIEWING THE GRANTS THAT THEY HAD GIVEN. AND THERE WAS ONE FOR MUCK REMOVAL. SO I WILL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE. WE CAN FOLLOW THE SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD OR THE PROCEDURE THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED ALREADY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. COMMISSIONER CLARK. YEAH, YOU MENTIONED UNCONVENTIONAL REMOVAL AND AND THE DISPOSAL WITH ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DREDGING. OH, DO WE HAVE DESIGNATED AREAS TO TO PUT THIS MATERIAL AND THEN SEE WHAT THE MATERIAL IS WHEN, WHEN IT'S DREDGED? WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THE PROCEDURE FOR DOING THAT IS, IS TO DO SEDIMENT TESTING FIRST YEAR. OKAY. AND TO SEE WHAT'S IN IT, WHAT KIND OF CONTAMINANTS ARE, IF ANY, ARE IN THE MUCK, AND THEN DISPOSAL SITES, LOCAL DISPOSAL SITES MAY BE AN OPTION, BUT DEPENDING AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S IN IT, IT MAY HAVE TO BE TRUCKED TO OKEECHOBEE. OKAY. QUESTION. RUTH, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A MUNICIPALITY THAT GOT $500,000 PER. HOW LONG HAVE THIS HOW LONG HAS THIS GRANT BEEN AVAILABLE FOR? CITY. COUNTY? I, I SAW A TABLE IN THE EPA DOCUMENTS. I THOUGHT I MAY HAVE HAD THE TABLE WITH ME, BUT I DON'T. IT GOES BACK AT LEAST TEN YEARS AS THE CITY EVER APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF POSSIBLE, BUT [00:10:03] NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. SO OKAY, I THINK THE COUNTY HAS, LIKE YOU SAID. YEAH, THE COUNTY HAS. AND THEN THEY THEY DIDN'T THEY COULDN'T. WHATEVER. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I INTENDED TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT IT BEFORE THIS AFTERNOON'S MEETING, BUT I JUST COULDN'T GET TO IT. BUT I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO BECAUSE I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LESSONS LEARNED FROM THEM IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TELL US. THAT WAY WE CAN TRY AND, YOU KNOW, AVOID THOSE TYPES OF PITFALLS. THANKS. AS FAR AS THE GRANT APPLICATION CLEANUP OR SO, WITH ANY GRANTS THAT YOU GET, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A SET OF SPECIAL OR, AND OR GENERAL CONDITIONS. AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE QUITE ONEROUS. IT MAY BE THAT THEY REQUIRE SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU AWARD IT TO A CERTAIN TYPE OF CONTRACTOR, OR THAT YOU WAIT YOUR PROCUREMENT A CERTAIN WAY, OR THAT THE TIMING, THE TURNAROUND FOR THE TIMING IS, IS SUCH THAT IT MAKES IT PRETTY HARD, DEPENDING ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S PROCUREMENT RULES. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M JUST NOT SURE YET. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST IT'S A SIMPLE GRANT APPLICATION THEN FOR MUCK REMOVAL AND CLEANUP. I DON'T THINK IT'S SIMPLE. I MEAN REALLY I MEAN I'M ANTICIPATING ALSO HAVING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WITH, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGH LEVEL TECHNICAL BACKGROUNDS. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE THE RIVERKEEPER, I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO MARTIN COUNTY'S TECHNICAL PEOPLE, PROBABLY PEOPLE AT FLORIDA OCEANOGRAPHIC, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME TYPE OF ANALYSIS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE AT ITS, YOU KNOW, ON STAFF BEFOREHAND, LIKE BEFORE IT'D BE APPROVED. COMMISSIONER CLARK AND THOSE BODIES OF WATER THAT DON'T EMPTY INTO THE RIVER RIGHT NOW, DO WE HAVE A GOOD LISTING OF ■THEM FOR THE CITY? DO YOU HAVE THEM MARKED? I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT UPPER CREEK VERSUS CLOSER, BUT OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE NEEDED, LET'S SAY, LIKE EVEN THE POND ALONG PALM BEACH ROAD OR WHATEVER IT IS. DO YOU HAVE THOSE ALL? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING CHARTED FOR OUR AREAS? NOT YET, BUT WE WILL. OKAY. ANY FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN FOR THIS RESOLUTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION 15 2026, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY GRANT APPLICATION FOR WATER QUALITY PROTECTION, BENEFITING THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER AND FOR INCLUDING MUCK REMOVAL FROM CREEKS, ETC. SECOND, THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO THANK RUTH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR TEN YEARS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOW APPLYING FOR IT. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THANKS SHOULD BE ALSO EXTENDED TO MILTON LEGGETT. HE WAS HE'S PART AND PARCEL OF THIS WHOLE THING. THANK YOU. MILTON, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 15, 2026 AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLERK. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. VICE MAYOR. YES. ALL RIGHT. LEE, AN ITEM TWO. WELL, NORMALLY I'M [2. CITY MANAGER APPLICATION REVIEW] READING THE RESOLUTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION. IT'S A D AND D, BUT IT'S THE CITY MANAGER APPLICATION REVIEW. WHICH ARE YOU GOING TO DO AN OPENER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE COMMISSION OPTED TO HAVE A COMMISSION OR A COMMITTEE FORMED A SCREENING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT ALL THE 82 APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FOR THE ROLE OF CITY MANAGER. THE COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF VICE MAYOR SEAN REED, ROBIN CARTWRIGHT, KAREN CHAMBERS FROM HUMAN RESOURCES, AND DAN HUDSON, WHO'S A FORMER CITY MANAGER AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SUCH. SO THEY MET THIS MORNING AT 10 A.M. AND I MUST SAY, I'M VERY IMPRESSED AND PLEASED. EVERYONE WAS EXTREMELY WELL PREPARED, DID THEIR HOMEWORK, CAME TO THE TABLE READY TO TALK ABOUT THE CANDIDATES. THEY DID NARROW DOWN A SHORT LIST FOR THE COMMISSION DOWN TO THESE ARE FOR YOU. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'VE GIVEN A COPY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY CLERK. THEY HAVE NARROWED DOWN THE SHORT LIST TO EIGHT INDIVIDUALS, FOUR OF WHOM ARE THE VETERANS PREFERENCE INDIVIDUALS WE SPOKE OF EARLIER. AND THEN THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL FIVE. WE CALL THEM SECOND ROUND. IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ANY OF THEM FOR FIRST ROUND, OR IF ANY OF THE OTHERS DECLINED THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW OR OTHERWISE WITHDRAW. SO THOSE [00:15:06] ARE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE COMMISSION'S THOUGHTS ON CANDIDATES REVIEWED AS WELL, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHO YOU WOULD LIKE US TO EXTEND AN INTERVIEW INVITATION TO. COMMISSIONER, I HAD A QUESTION OF HOUSEKEEPING QUESTION. THEY SAID THAT COMMITTEE IS DONE WITH THEIR WORK NOW. ROSALIND. THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MISS. THEY WERE KIND OF LIKE IN, I GUESS, CONE OF SILENCE. BUT MISS CARTWRIGHT IS HERE, SO I KNOW THAT IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. ALRIGHT. GO ON. YOU HAD A QUESTION? OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE WRONG LIGHT. IT WAS YOUR LIGHT, ACTUALLY. OKAY. SORRY. THANKS. OH. COMMISSIONER RICH, SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? SECOND ROUND, IF DESIRED. IF THE TWO TWO THINGS, IF ANY OF THE CANDIDATES, THE INITIAL EIGHT UP ABOVE DECLINED THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW, WE COULD MOVE ONE OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS UP TO TAKE THAT PLACE. OR IF THE COMMISSION INTERVIEWS THESE INITIAL EIGHT CANDIDATES AND FEELS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW OTHER PEOPLE, THESE FIVE WERE MADE AVAILABLE BY THE SCREENING COMMITTEE AS POTENTIALS. OKAY, SO ARE THEY. SO DO THEY FEEL THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO A LESSER DEGREE THAN THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, EIGHT ABOVE THEM? WE REQUESTED TO COME UP WITH APPROXIMATELY 8 TO 10. THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION WAS TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE IN ONE DAY. EIGHT CAN BE SEATED EASILY INTO ONE DAY, AND THEY FELT OVERALL THAT THESE EIGHT CANDIDATES DID MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS MOST CLOSELY, BUT THE OTHERS WOULD BE THE NEXT ROUND IF DESIRED. SO THEY ARE RANKED? YES. THEY'RE QUALIFIED. YES, YES, I CAN JUMP IN. YEAH, I CAN COMMENT. ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER RICH, SO TO FURTHER CLARIFICATION, THERE WERE FOUR THAT WERE VETERANS PREFERENCES. SO THEY'RE REQUIRED. THE OTHER FOUR SHANE CORBIN, MARK MATHIS, CHRISTOPHER RUSSO, CHANDLER WILLIAMSON, THOSE WERE THE FOUR THAT WERE RANKED HIGHER WHERE THEY HAD 3 OR 4 COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT AGREED TO HAVE THEM THERE. THE OTHER FIVE, THOSE WERE LIKE MAYBES AND STUFF. NOT THAT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS. I FEEL AS IF THEY SHOULD STILL BE INTERVIEWED AND WE SHOULD GO WITH THE 13 JUST IN CASE SOME DROP OUT. THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT YES, THEY WERE RANKED. WE FOCUSED HEAVILY ON PEOPLE WITH FLORIDA EXPERIENCE. PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN FLORIDA. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 1 OR 2 THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MAYBES OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA. I'D HAVE TO PULL IT UP. BUT YES, THAT'S HOW WE RANKED IT OFF. EXPERIENCE AND THEIR RESUMES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYONE THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE ON THE LIST THAT WE PROVIDED. OUT OF THE 82 APPLICANTS THAT MIGHT HAVE GOT YOUR ATTENTION VERSUS OURS. AND THANK YOU. THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK. I'M SURE IT WAS A LOT. YEAH, I WOKE UP. I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 4 A.M. THIS MORNING, STILL GOING THROUGH RESUMES. AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE CANDIDATES BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS MANY, EVEN THE SLIGHTEST, SAY, ERROR IN YOUR APPLICATION OR PERCEIVED DISQUALIFICATION, YOU'RE LIKE, YOU'RE OUT. I JUST HAVE TO COMMENT ON LATOYA RICKETTS. YEP. DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE IS THE MOST CREDENTIALED. MOST CREDENTIALED. SHE IS NUMBER 71. WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE SUBMISSION. DID YOU WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HER SUITABILITY OR. I CAN'T RECALL OFFHAND, I REALLY CAN'T. THERE'S SO MANY I HAVE THAT ON MY LIST, BUT I, I JUST WROTE IT DOWN AND I SAW THAT ON MY LIST. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE MARK MATHIS ON THERE. LOCAL BOY LIVES RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. IMPRESSIVE EDUCATIONAL RESUME, I THINK. I KNOW MARK GOT REALLY TIRED OF DRIVING TO FELLSMERE. I DON'T BLAME HIM. 52 RICARDO MENDEZ. IS HE ON THERE? HE WAS A MAYBE AND AND THE REASON HE WAS A MAYBE. BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONER RICH, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EMPLOYMENT HISTORY FROM 2021 AND ON. THAT'S WHY HE WAS A MAYBE BUT HE HAD HR EXPERIENCE. HE HAD FINANCE EXPERIENCE AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CAREER. CORRECT. YEAH. AND HE WAS VERY DETAILED WITH HIS BULLET POINTS. SO THAT'S WHY HE WAS A MAYBE. BUT WE WERE JUST UNSURE OF THE EMPLOYMENT [00:20:01] HISTORY. SO THAT'S WHY HE WAS A MAYBE. AND I FEEL HE SHOULD WELL NOT STILL BE THERE. YEAH. SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING SINCE 21 OR IF IT WAS A TYPO. SO WHEN WE SPOKE WITH CITY ATTORNEY LEE, HE SAID SOMETIMES THIS COULD BE A COMMON PRACTICE WHEN THERE'S GOVERNMENT POSITIONS WHERE IT KEEPS THINGS ON THE RECORD. YEAH, I CAN EXPLAIN. SO WHEN YOU FIRST APPLY FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB, YOU PROBABLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME PUTTING IN INFORMATION FOR THE FIRST TIME. BUT THEN WHEN YOU SUBSEQUENTLY APPLY TO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, YOUR INFORMATION IS SAVED IN THE CLOUD. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, AND YOU HAVE TO UPDATE IT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I FIRST APPLIED FOR PORT SAINT LUCIE, IT TOOK ME SEVERAL HOURS TO PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION IN. AND THEN LATER I APPLIED FOR MARTIN COUNTY. I DIDN'T HAVE TO. I JUST HAD TO EDIT IT TO UPDATE IT FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS THAT I'D BEEN AT PORT SAINT LUCIE, SO THERE COULD BE OPERATOR ERRORS IN THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU'RE IN THE CLOUD. BUT EVERYBODY WHO APPLIES FOR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SAW SOME INDICATION THAT THEY WERE APPLYING FOR ANOTHER JOB AND ANOTHER TOWN. AND IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE PLACE THEY APPLIED TO INITIALLY WHEN THEY PUT ALL THE INFORMATION IN AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE JOB, AND THEN THEY APPLIED TO OTHER CITIES YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE LIKE, IF I WERE TO APPLY RIGHT NOW FOR ANOTHER LOCAL JOB, MY STUFF IS IN THE CLOUD, IN THE SOFTWARE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND UPDATE IT. NO, I WAS SURPRISED. I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE EVEN IN THE JOB THEY WERE APPLYING, APPLYING FOR IT WAS INCORRECT. BECAUSE OF THAT. YOU KNOW, THE THAT FACT BECAUSE IT WAS A PRIOR APPLICATION AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO CORRECT IT. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU PUT CHANDLER WILLIAMSON ON THERE. THAT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. LARRY TIBBS. YES, HE'S A A GREAT, GREAT MANY MILITARY YES FOLKS, WHICH IS SOME OF THEIR THEIR EXPERIENCE. I'M SURPRISED THEY COULD EVEN DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE PRETTY CLOSELY HELD. I THINK I SAW ONE WHERE IT SAID UNCLASSIFIED. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. DID RAMEN RAMEN COLOGNE DID THAT. IS THAT NAME FAMILIAR TO MR. VICE PRESIDENT THOUGH? HE'S IN OREGON, SO MAYBE THAT'S. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TAB NUMBER WAS THOUGH? OH HE'S 1818 I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED 18. OKAY, I'LL WRITE IT DOWN SHANE KORB NO. ANGELA CRUZ I'M SORRY. IT WAS A REMARKABLY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE. I MUST SAY I AGREE. COLIN DONNELLY. COLIN DONNELLY WAS NUMBER 20. YEAH, HE WAS IN THE MAYBE OR NO. I'M SORRY, GEORGE DICKENS. NOW HE'S GOT TWO GEORGE DICKENS. NO, GEORGE DICKENS. I JUST SAW HE HAD A HE'S A VERY INTERESTING NAME. WAS HE. HE WAS NUMBER 24. BUT HE DOES. HE'S GOT TOO MANY ENDS IN HIS ROW. SO I CAN SEE WHY. COULD BE A FEW. OKAY. INTERESTING. OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT. COMMISSIONER CLARK YOU HAD COMMENTS. SO I HAD DAVID HARVELLE NUMBER 4242. HE'S LOCAL. I MEAN, HE HAS A LOT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT HE'S LOCAL TO MORTON COUNTY AND HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE I A BACKGROUND. I WANT TO KNOW WHY HE WAS IN COLLEGE FOR TEN YEARS. I WAS STUDYING SUBMIT A RESUME. WELL, I DIDN'T YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT HIS HIS JOB THING. SO YOU YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? WELL, IT'S JUST HE WAS IF YOU LOOK AT HIS HE WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT FROM 2010 TO 2020. THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE IN COLLEGE. I LIKED HIS THE THE KIND OF WORK THAT HE DID AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS LIVING HERE, EVEN THOUGH HE'S LET ME SEE, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE WORKED, COMMISSIONER? THE TEN YEARS OF COLLEGE COULD HAVE BEEN PART TIME, ONGOING. PEOPLE WORK AND GO TO SCHOOL. NO, HE HAS A VERY INTERESTING RESUME. HE HAS A GOOD RESUME, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND HE'S HE'S WAS TOWN MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, TOWN MANAGER. HE'S HE'S GOT THE EXPERIENCE. YES. AND THEN I HAD LATOYA RICKETTS ALSO BECAUSE OF HER EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND AND EDUCATION AND PRACTICAL BACKGROUND WITH THE THE [00:25:06] DIFFERENT I THINK LIKE SOMEBODY WHO CAN WORK IN GRANTS AND COMMUNITY AND CULTURE, THAT'S THAT. AND THE SAME THING WITH NUMBER 72 AFTER THAT, SHAMARA ROBINSON. BUT I BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE THEY THE THING YOU KNOW, THE THE SAME THING WITH THE SEEKING FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER THING. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT SHOWS UP LIKE THAT. BUT I DID LIKE THE BACKGROUND, AND I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT A VETERAN, I KNOW THAT THE VETERANS I SAW THIS FROM PEORIA, ILLINOIS. I THINK IT'S ONE FROM PEORIA, MICHAEL, DINO, DINO, NUMBER 34, NUMBER 34. AND I'D AT LEAST LIKE. RICKETTS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE HER, BUT. AND THAT ONE TO AT LEAST BE ADDED TO A A STRONG CONSIDERATION. AND OUT OF THESE THAT WERE PUT IN. OH, YEAH. MICHAEL IS IN YOUR LIST. OKAY, GOOD. FINE. THANKS. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE OF THE BETTER ONES THAT I PICKED. OKAY. SO MICHAEL AND MATHIS, I LOOKED AT CORBIN, BUT I HADN'T PUT HIM IN THE TOP THING, BUT MY MICHAEL AND MATHIS ARE THE TWO ON MY LIST. THAT SHOWED UP ON YOUR FIRST. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? FIRST? FIRST ROUND, I GUESS. FIRST PREFERENCES OUT OF THOSE ONE, TWO 345678 OKAY, OKAY. THEY WERE THEY HAD 3 OR 4 COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SUPPORTED THEM. THE BABIES WERE LIKE TWOS AND THREES POTENTIAL. MY QUESTION THOUGH DEFINITELY LIKE FOR THE EITHER THE COMMITTEE OR OR FOR US TO LOOK AT NUMBER 71 AND NUMBER 72. MY QUESTION WITH 72, COMMISSIONER, CLERK, COMMISSIONER 71, IT WAS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ILLINOIS. SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WOULD FEEL RELOCATING THE POTENTIAL CITY MANAGER. THAT WAS MY CONCERN ABOUT HER WAS 71 OR 72, 72. YEAH. IS SHE'S ONLY EVER SUPERVISED A VERY SMALL NUMBER. SMALL PEOPLE. YEAH, I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU. SO LIKE THAT THAT QUESTION GOT BROUGHT UP TO COMMISSIONER RICH FROM FROM DAN. I ASKED HIM FOR CLARIFICATION, DAN HUDSON. AND HE SAID IT COULD GO EITHER WAY. HE SAID, SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE A CITY MANAGER AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SCALE IT UP BASED OFF THE CITY. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ON THAT. BUT I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. ROB, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THIS MANY WORDS ON AN APPLICATION? I KNOW SOME WERE VERY RICKETS. IT'S IT'S I WANT I WANT HER HERE JUST BECAUSE OF HER HER EXPERIENCE WITH CDBG. AND MAYBE SHE CAN PUT THIS 71. IF WE COULD ADD NUMBER SEVEN. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING MORE. SO I AND BUT I HAVE IT IS I THINK SHE'S FROM RIVIERA. THIS ONE IS WHICH ONE. AND IT'S RICKETS. IT'S WELL WRITTEN. I MEAN, SHE HAS A PHD IN SOMETHING. IT'S I, I WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW HER AND COMMISSIONER. I PICKED COMMISSIONER CLERK. WOULD YOU AGREE WE SHOULD INTERVIEW. I PICKED HER UP ON, ON WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS THIS BOOK. I MEAN SHE HAD THERE'S BUTTONS SHE HITS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE BUTTONS. THOSE BUTTONS EXISTED. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. DID. DID LATOYA RICKETS, NUMBER 71. DID. DID THEY HAVE CITY MANAGER? DID THEY EVER HOLD A CITY MANAGER POSITION? THEY WORKED IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A B CONSENSUS FROM NOT ONLY THE COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS MY OPINION TO HAVE BEEN A PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER. YEAH. JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S SUCH A NICHE THING THAT EITHER YOU'VE WORKED SIDE BY SIDE TO A CITY MANAGER OR YOU'VE HELD THE POSITION THAT THAT WAS MY OPINION ON IT. BUT SHE WAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. SHE WAS. YEAH, SHE WORKED FOR FOR WORKED FOR HUD, YOU KNOW, SHE'S DONE ALL THE JOBS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE UNDER HER. I MEAN, SHE'S SUPERVISED A GREAT, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE. SERVICE. I JUST I DON'T KNOW. DO, DO DO YOU FEEL YOU NEED ALL OF US TO RECOMMEND THAT SHE BE ADDED OR TWO OF US OR THREE OF US. I [00:30:05] MEAN, THAT WAS JUST I MEAN, THERE'S FOUR OF US HERE. WE'RE MISSING ONE BOARD MEMBER. BUT IF WE COULD, DOCTOR RICKETTS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. I THINK THAT I'VE LOOKED I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED AT THE. IT'S VERY. HER, HER BACKGROUND IN SOME OF THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE. PROJECT MANAGER. DO YOU THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO GET TO LIKE, 8 TO 10 APPLICANTS? AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMEONE LIKE LATOYA THAT MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE CITY MANAGER OR EXPERIENCE IN THAT, THEY COULD BE IN THE COUNT FOR 12, I GUESS, BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH 8 TO 12 IN THAT RANGE. THERE'S ALREADY FOUR VETERAN PREFERENCES, SO WE'D BE PICKING EIGHT POTENTIALLY ON TOP OF THAT TO HAVE LIKE A NUMBER AROUND 12 ONE DAY BECAUSE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WHAT, 12. AND THEN WE ADDED 12345. NO WE HAD 13. SO WE HAVE 18 CURRENTLY WITH EVERY BOARD MEMBERS PICKS UP HERE BETWEEN THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE CITY COMMISSION. SO WE'RE FORCED TO CONSIDER VETS. CORRECT. EVEN THOUGH AT LEAST ONE OF THEM CLEARLY IS NOT QUALIFIED. THIS IS CORRECT. OKAY. STILL, IT'S A FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. CORRECT. FOR VETERANS PREFERENCE. YES. WELL, IT'S IT'S THE VA OR FDA. SO YEAH. YEAH. BUT THEN FLORIDA HAS NUANCES IN THE STATE. SO THESE FOUR MEN, WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS WHO APPLIED. BUT THESE FOUR PLUS FOUR. YEAH. AND AND I THINK IF WE'REE' DOING 12 THAT'S A LOT OF INTERVIEWS IN A DAY. I KNOW WE'RE PUSHING FOR A DAY, BUT IT SHOULD BE YOU HAVE TO DO TWO DAYS. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR THE 24TH. YOU'D HAVE TO DO TWO DAYS OF INTERVIEWS. AND I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF SCHEDULING CONFLICTS, WHICH IS HOW WE GOT TO THE 24TH. YEAH, BUT THEN WE WOULD NEED ANOTHER DAY. CORRECT. I'M NOT HERE. AND I WAS ABLE TO NAVIGATE EIGHT FOR YOU STARTING AT 9 A.M. IF YOU STARTED AT 8 A.M. YOU COULD BE DONE BY 430. BUT IF YOU START AT NINE YOU'LL BE DONE AT 530. SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS IS THE SCREENING COMMITTEE HAS MADE THE CHOICE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH. NO, THAT THAT WOULD BE IMPLIED FROM YOU. BUT THE SCREENING COMMITTEE WAS TO SCREEN THEM WITH THE PUBLIC. SO WE HAD TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MYSELF INCLUDED, AND THEN SOMEONE FROM HR. SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE SCREENING COMMITTEE. BUT TO SAY THAT THESE ARE ALREADY PICKED, I THINK WOULD BE A FALSE STATEMENT. SO WE HAD A CHANCE TO ADD MORE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. OKAY. OR YOU CAN REPLACE SOME OF THE EIGHT. SO THE FOUR THAT ARE ARE SET THERE. BUT THEN YOU CAN MODIFY THIS ANY WAY YOU WISH. THE SCREENING COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE WAS SIMPLY TO HELP NARROW DOWN THE 82. CORRECT. SO THAT YOU'D HAVE SOME OPTIONS, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD AND REMOVE. MAKE TWO DAYS OF INTERVIEWS ONE DAY. IT'S WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE YOU WANT TO DO. TWO DAYS. NO, WE CANNOT REMOVE THE VETS. CORRECT? NO, NO. RIGHT. THOSE ARE SET. YES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO STAY BETWEEN 8 AND 12. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE HIGHER END OF THAT NUMBER. JANE CORBIN. SO I THINK WE I AGREE SHANE'S A GOOD ONE. YEAH I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A GOOD ONE. THE FIVE THAT WERE ADDED, COMMISSIONER RICH AND POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT THOSE VERSUS 73. DOES IT GIVE OR TAKE. CHRISTOPHER RUSSO'S A GOOD ONE AND CHANDLER WILLIAMSON'S VERY IMPRESSIVE I THOUGHT. COLIN DONNELLY WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION ON. WELL OKAY. LET ME I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT NUMBER 70. THAT'S LATOYA RICKETTS. NO, NO, I DON'T KNOW. CITY MANAGER PROBABLY NO CITY MANAGER. AND WE'LL LATOYA IS IN RIVIERA, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS FLORIDA. BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CITY MANAGER EXPERIENCE. I THINK THAT'S DAVID HAROLD ■ONE. WHAT WAS THAT WAS 42. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY MY PICKS ORIGINALLY FOR A MAYBE. BUT THEN WHEN WE STARTED NARROWING MAYBES DOWN, I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE ON THE COMMITTEE. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY OUT LOUD WHO WE DISAGREE WITH BECAUSE WE'RE PREJUDGING. CORRECT. WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. OKAY, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO DROP SOME SOMEBODY OFF THIS LIST NOW, WELL, I'M LOOKING IT DOWN TO JUST FOUR AND FOUR, OR IF WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT TO FROM SHANE CORBIN 12345678. IF WE GOT TO HAWTHORNE THAT WOULD BE EIGHT. IF WE JUST KEPT THOSE EIGHT OR IF WE ADDED 2 OR 3 TODAY AND MADE SOME CHANGES IN THIS SECOND TIER. WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, IF WE HAVE TO KEEP THE FOUR IN THE FIRST TIER AND MAYBE PICK SOME FROM THE SECOND TIER AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO ADD IN, I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TRY TO GET IT DOWN TO EIGHT RIGHT NOW, AND THEN ADD THE OTHER FOUR POTENTIAL FIVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FOUR VETERAN PREFERENCES. I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING SHANE CORBIN, MARK MATHIS, CHRISTOPHER RUSSO AND CHANDLER WILLIAMSON TO SEE IF THAT MAKES THE EIGHT, AND THEN GOING FROM THERE WITH THE SECOND ROUND AND NARROWING THAT DOWN TO LIKE 4 [00:35:04] TO 5 BECAUSE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, RICARDO MENDEZ, HE'S MISSING ON HIS RESUME WORK EXPERIENCE. SO HE MIGHT NOT EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND. SO EVEN IF WE WERE IN HE. YEAH. WELL, FROM 2021 AND ON UNTIL PRESENT. YEAH WE JUST EXPRESSED ABOUT THAT AND THAT ONE, EVEN IF HE WAS LIKE NUMBER 13 OR SOMETHING, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE A BIG DEAL. BECAUSE IF HE DOESN'T MEET OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING NOT THERE. 16 I THINK I WROTE PERFECT CAREER DOWN FOR HIM. RIGHT. WHICH ONE? RICARDO. YEAH, RICARDO. BUT NO, I DIDN'T NOTICE. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH THERE. MAYBE SO THAT WHEN ONE DOES HE LIVE, HE'S LOCAL. WHO IS IT? RICARDO MENDEZ. HE'S IN MIAMI. YEAH. WELL THAT'S LOCAL. YEAH. I MEAN, LOOK AT THIS RESUME. HOLY MACKEREL. AND WE'RE NOT. WELL, ROSS, CAN YOU REACH OUT TO HIM AND ASK HIM WHY THERE'S THAT HOLE IN HIS CV? YES, I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. THAT HAVE TO BE DONE AFTER THIS. IT MIGHT DELAY YOUR TIME. YEAH. SO. OR WE CAN ASK HIM TO COME PREPARED WITH THAT. IF HE'S SOMEONE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. OKAY. HE COULD BE ON THE SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS OR ACTUALLY THE TOP CANDIDATE CANDIDATES WOULD BE ON THE FIRST DAY OF INTERVIEWS WHERE WE GO THROUGH THEM. WE'RE NOW PICKING A SECOND DAY, WHICH WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE NEXT DAY, THE 25TH, IF EVERYBODY'S CALENDAR IS AVAILABLE. I THINK THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH THAT. A CONFLICT CLERK HAD A COMMENT. OKAY, OKAY. SO WE HAVE FOUR VETERANS. THAT'S A GIVEN. THAT'S A GIVEN. YES. SO THE TWO THAT ARE NAMED AFTER THAT, NUMBER 19 AND NUMBER 58, I WOULD AGREE THAT WE KEEP THOSE TWO AT LEAST. WHAT ABOUT CHRISTOPHER RUSSO. YES. OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE WE'RE AT WE'RE GOING WITH THE COMMITTEE. WE'RE GOING WITH THE COMMITTEE. NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. AND THEN HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT 8380. SHE'S TERRIFIC. THAT'S A TERRIFIC RESUME. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU SAID THAT CHANDLER WILLIAMS. YEAH. SO BUT THERE'S TWO VETS WHO ARE NOT QUALIFIED. BUT WE HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. YEAH I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THEM BUT THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED. SO COMMISSIONER RICH COLIN DONNELLY IS NOT QUALIFIED ARETHA. PHARAOH BENAVIDEZ. WELL WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE NEXT. SO LIKE ARE THESE EIGHT. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THESE EIGHT LIKE THE FIRST EIGHT. YES COMMISSIONER JOB HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FIRST EIGHT WITH THE FIRST PICK THE EIGHT. AND I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THE SECOND ROUND. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I THINK WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT THE FIRST EIGHT, AND THEN WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT THE NEXT 4 TO 5 POTENTIALS ON THE SECOND ROUND THAT WERE MAYBES FROM US. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD, THOUGH, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THERE. COMMISSIONER CLARK, HOW'D YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FIRST EIGHT? YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT I DID I, I, I LOOKED AT 83, BUT I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT IN DETAIL. SO NOW WE HAVE TIME EVERYBODY. LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK. IT'S. YEAH. IT'S TAKE YOUR TIME. IT'S VERY APPARENT THAT HE'S HE'S HE SHOULD BE HE'S WORTHY OF OUR CONSIDERATION. HE OR SHE CHANDLER. MR. ISN'T CHANDLER MR. WELL THERE ARE LOTS OF WHO KNOWS NOWADAYS THE NAME TO ME HE HAS A HOTMAIL ADDRESS. IS A HOTMAIL LIKE THE 80S LATE 70S I THINK AT LEAST I STILL HAVE AN AOL AND HOTMAIL. COMMISSIONER RICH DOESN'T MEAN I USE THEM THOUGH, BUT I DO HAVE. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I SAW HOTMAIL THIS. DID YOU SEE THAT? HE DID SOME WORK ON DREDGING AND RENOVATION OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE? YES. NO. I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH MR. WILLIAMSON. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR NEXT? HE'S BEEN IN PAHOKEE. HE'S. WE WERE LOOKING AT. YEAH. SO I, I FEEL LIKE AS A BOARD WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRST EIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THE THING THAT I WOULD FOCUS ON HEAVILY NEXT THEN IS THE SECOND ROUND. SO WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO ONE AT A TIME OR IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN IF YOU HAVE PICKS IN THESE, I'M HERE AT NUMBER 25. NO NUMBER. I THOUGHT WE'D TAKE SOME TIME JUST AT THE DAIS LOOKING THROUGH. LOOK THROUGH FIVE. OKAY. COMMENT ON THOSE RATHER THAN FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE. OKAY. SO WE'RE AT NUMBER 25 RIGHT. BUT WE'RE ALL GOING TO LOOK FROM 25. THE NEXT FIVE PEOPLE ALL UNDOUBTEDLY OUT LOUD OR OR JUST LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED. NOTE YOUR PREFERENCES OR NOT. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THE NEXT FIVE, WHICH IS THE SECOND ROUND. I MEAN, HE'S A HE'S A HE'S A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR. OKAY. WE [00:40:17] WERE GOING TO DO THEM. BUT WE SPEAKING OF WHAT TAB NUMBER COMMISSIONER RICH NUMBER 26. WE'RE LOOKING AT 25. I THOUGHT YOU SAID AT THE NEXT FIVE INDIVIDUALS MAKE NOTES AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THEM RATHER THAN GOING BY INDIVIDUALLY. ARE THEY GOING TO DO A SECOND. OH OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT I'LL BE QUIET TIME ON THE DAIS. I ALREADY HAVE NOTES ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, SO. WELL THEN I WILL JUST SIT QUIETLY. THAT WOULD BE NICE. FOR AS A COMMISSIONER, RICH WITH CONNELLY, HE WAS AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FROM 2006 TO 2019. YEAH, AND TOWN MANAGER AND ANOTHER STATE. AND DANIA BEACH? YEAH, HE WAS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND JERSEY AS WELL. SO THE REASON WHY, FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON THE BOARD, ON ON THE BOARD OF THE THE REASON WHY THIS IS MAYBE ROSS CAN HELP ME OUT HERE, WHY IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE DAUNTING. WE HAD COLIN BASINGER WHO DID THE STEP BEFORE THIS WAS BETWEEN THE THE CITY STAFF. AND WHAT DID BASINGER DO? HOW DID THAT HAPPEN WHEN HE WAS IN THE LAST OR HE DID? EVERYBODY. THE TWO PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF THE BENZINGER GROUP WAS TO SOURCE THE CANDIDATES AND RUN THE BACKGROUNDS. THAT WAS, THOSE WERE THE TWO PRIMARY FUNCTIONS. WE HAD COMMITTEES, AND WE HAD OTHER FOLKS INVOLVED IN HELPING NARROW THIS DOWN. WHAT IS REALLY THE MOST HELPFUL, IF I MAY SUGGEST, IS TAB NUMBER THREE, WHICH HAS THE LISTING OF ALL OF THE CANDIDATES. THE COLUMN THAT REFERS TO THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND THE 4 TO 10 YEARS OF LEADERSHIP. THOSE ARE THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATION COLUMNS. ALL THE REST ARE REALLY GOOD TO HAVE. BUT THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND THE 4 TO 10 YEARS OF SENIOR LEADERSHIP ARE THE PRIMARY MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE ROLE. SO GOING DOWN THERE, IF THERE'S A TWO YESES, THEY'VE MET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SCREENING COMMITTEE ALSO USED TO NARROW IT DOWN EVEN FASTER. SOMETIMES THAT HELPS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES, BUT IF YOU WANT A QUICK GLANCE AT CANDIDATE 1242 81, THIS TOOL MIGHT PROVE USEFUL. AND I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE 30 YEARS OR MORE OF SERVICE. SO. HENCE LOOKING AT FLORIDA. YEAH, I MEAN, I APPLAUD THE CHUTZPAH OF THE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED WITH JUST A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. WHILE WORKING AT WALMART OR SOMETHING. I SAW THAT, HEY, GIVE IT A TRY, YOU KNOW. WHEN WAS THAT? I FORGOT I WROTE IT DOWN LIKE THE ONE OUT. NUMBER 57, I THINK. I WISH THIS WAS NOT IN THE SECOND ROUND. WHICH ONE? I THINK IT'S NUMBER 28. YOU KNOW, IT'S 30 YEARS. THEY'RE ALMOST AT THE END OF THEIR CAREER, SAY SECOND ROUND. COMMISSIONER CLERK I. I THINK THEY'RE PART OF THE 10 TO 13 THAT SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED BECAUSE SOME MIGHT DROP OUT AS WELL. YEAH. SO LIKE WHEN WE TALK SECOND ROUND LIKE THEY'RE STILL BEING CONSIDERED. THEY JUST WEREN'T A TOP PRIORITY. AND THAT WAS PROBABLY VERBIAGE [00:45:03] I COULD HAVE SAID SECOND TIER. SECOND TIER MAY HAVE BEEN BETTER. YEAH. SO YOU COULD TIER IMPLIES LESSER SECOND ROUND I THINK COULD BE DAY TWO MORE NEUTRAL IN THE COMMITTEE. THEY IN THE COMMITTEE THEY GOT LESSER VOTES RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND YOU I THINK YOU I THINK YOU NEED TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT ONE DAY WITH EIGHT PEOPLE IN A DAY. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AT ONE DAY, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT DAY. SO IF THE SECOND TIER, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO RANK THEM SO THAT WHEN 1 OR 2 PEOPLE IN THE FIRST TIER DROP OUT FOR THAT ONE DAY, YOU CAN REPLACE THEM AUTOMATICALLY. THE OR YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF ADDING ANOTHER SECOND DAY AND INTERVIEWING EVERYBODY. SO THAT'S THAT'S BUT AS ATTRITION, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT THE JOB ELSEWHERE AND NOT BE AVAILABLE ANYMORE OR, OR DECIDE TO WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION. AND SO THE LIST WILL GET SMALLER AS TIME GOES ON. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THOUGHT I'D THROW MY $0.02 IN BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SECOND DAY, I AGREE. YEAH, THAT'S TWO TO GIVE. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE MISSING A THE MAYOR, YOU STILL NEED THREE VOTES TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON SOMETHING. I GUESS ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL. RIGHT. WELL LET'S FINISH. ARE WE GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO BE STYMIED BECAUSE THE MAYOR ISN'T HERE TODAY? NO. YOU JUST NEED THREE VOTES TO TAKE ACTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME IF HE WAS HERE. THREE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. YEP. SO WE'RE REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SECOND ROUND. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. YEAH. TO DROP SOME PEOPLE POTENTIALLY. YES. AND NUMBER THEM IN PREFERENCE AT THIS POINT. AGAIN I IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A SECOND YOUR FIRST PREFERENCE, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A SECOND DAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DROPPING PEOPLE OUT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO FULL DAYS. SO THAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE THAT FACT FIRST. DO WE WANT A SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS OR ONLY ONE DAY? AND IF YOU ONLY WANT ONE DAY, THEN THE SECOND TIER, YOU SHOULD RANK THEM SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE DROP OUT OF THE FIRST TIER, WE CAN AS A STAFF CAN REPLACE THEM. BASED ON YOUR RANKING. WELL, WE COULD UTILIZE BOTH BECAUSE WE COULD TAKE THE SECOND DAY AND HAVE IT AS AN OPTION. IF WE FIND THAT PEOPLE HAVE DROPPED OUT BEFORE THE INTERVIEWS, WE CAN MOVE PEOPLE FROM THE SECOND ROUND UP TO THE FIRST DAY OF INTERVIEWS. BUT WITH THE TIMING, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE TIME TO ASK YOU WHICH ONES. SO THAT'S WHY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE DAY. YES, I THOUGHT WE WOULD SHOULD BE RANKING THEM ANYWAY. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING NOW, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS NOT CLEAR. BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO DAYS OF INTERVIEWS, YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DECIDE THAT FIRST. IF IT'S ONLY ONE DAY OF INTERVIEW, SHOULD WE TAKE A MOTION OR CONSENSUS AS TO WHETHER EITHER OR SO THAT YOU HAVE A GROUNDWORK OF WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH? SO I WOULD LIKE TO WELL, I THINK THE THE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DATE NOW THEN ON THE MOTION. YES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY. WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE TIME. WE NEED TWO DAYS. I THINK WE NEED TWO DAYS ALSO. FIRST LET'S GET TO A CONSENSUS. WE ALL AGREE, OR MAJORITY OF US AGREE THAT WE NEED TWO DAYS. I BELIEVE THAT WE DO. DO WE NEED A MOTION OR CAN WE JUST DO IT AS A CONSENSUS MOTION? OKAY, YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY DATES. WELL, I'M AVAILABLE THE 25TH, BUT I THINK, SEAN, YOU HAD SAID THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU WEREN'T. I THINK IF YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS OF THREE DAYS, THEN IF YOU CAN, WE CAN WORK AT THAT. OKAY. AND WORK WITH OUR CALENDAR TO SEE IS IT A MOTION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE? I THINK WE NEED TO FINALIZE IT UP BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION. BUT OKAY. IN CONSENSUS WITH THIS OF A SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS. SECOND DAY. YEAH. YES, YES. SO SEAN, I'M I'M IN SUPPORT. BUT I WANT TO SAY ON THE 25TH, MAYOR COLLINS COULDN'T ATTEND. WELL THAT'S OKAY, WE COULD PICK ANOTHER DAY. BUT I'M JUST SAYING AT LEAST WE NEED, AS OUR ATTORNEY JUST SAID, WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT IN PLACE. FEBRUARY. NO. IT'S THIS. YEAH. THE MAYOR CANNOT MAKE THAT DATE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO PICK ANOTHER SECOND DATE. I HAVE 9 A.M. ON THE 24TH FOR FIRST, THOUGH. WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND DATE. AND YOU WERE IN AGREEMENT. I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER RICH WAS I THINK I THINK IT WAS FOUR. THERE'S THREE RIGHT THERE. OKAY. SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WILL HAVE A SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS, AND YOU WANT US TO FIGURE OUT A DATE IN THE MOTION. WE CAN DO IT AT 25 THE 23RD, THAT IS THE FIRST ONE WAS THE FIRST DAY WE'RE GOING TO DO. FIRST ONE IS THE 24TH. 24TH WAS THE FIRST ONE. THE FIRST ONE'S THE 24TH IS THE 23RD. WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION MEETING. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK, RIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THAT DAY. I KNOW WE HAVE ONE AT 2 P.M. ON THE 26TH. ALSO, I WOULDN'T HAVE AVAILABILITY UNTIL MARCH 2ND THE EARLIEST. LET ME SEE. AND MARK MARCH 2ND WAS A CONFLICT FOR SOMEONE FROM MY MEMORIES. RIGHT. BECAUSE 27TH SPECIAL MEETING TO THE THIRD. THE 27TH IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I'M NOT A TOWN, SO CAN'T WE JUST DO ALL DAY? IS IT TERRIBLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE HERE UNTIL 8:00 AT NIGHT ON ON THE 24TH? WELL, THAT'S UP TO YOU. THE THE THE [00:50:04] THE INDIVIDUALS COME AND THEY SPEND AN HOUR AND THEY'RE GONE. THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE, THE PEOPLE ON THE DAIS HERE. DO WE WANT TO SPEND SEVEN, EIGHT HOUR A DAY? WHAT IS COMING DOWN TO YOU NOW IS WHAT AN EIGHT APPLICANT INTERVIEW SCHEDULE WOULD LOOK LIKE. STARTING AT 9 A.M. THAT'S EIGHT PEOPLE. OKAY. WE GO TILL 9:00. THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT SPEND FIVE HOURS HERE. OH THAT'S TRUE. THEY GO TO EACH. THAT'S RIGHT. EACH PERSON. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TWO DAYS AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE DATE. YES, YES. WHO ARE WE. WHAT'S THE RUSH TO GET THEM BY THIS MARCH 20TH. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'VE APPLIED FOR JOBS ELSEWHERE YOU'RE GOING TO START TO LOSE THEM. IT'S OKAY. INTERVIEW THEM AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. SO WHAT ABOUT MARCH 2ND? MARCH 3RD. MARCH 2ND. LET ME SEE. ON MARCH 5TH. SO MARCH 3RD WAS THE DATE OF A POTENTIAL SPECIAL MEETING OR OR WHAT? IT'S LISTED ON MY THING. 9 A.M. MARCH MEET AT CITY HALL REGARDING APPLICANTS. IT'S ALREADY ON MY AGENDA. IT'S NOT ON MINE. OH, THERE IT IS. IT JUST POPPED UP. NO, THAT'S THE FOURTH. SO THE THIRD WAS A DATE THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT FOR TO DECIDE THE CANDIDATE POST INTERVIEW. SO ALL THE INTERVIEWS WOULD HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED ON THE 24TH. YEAH. THEN THE COMMISSION HAD SCHEDULING CONFLICTS AND WE DECIDED ON THE THIRD TO COME BACK AND DETERMINE THE CANDIDATE. THIRD SHOULD BE OUR SECOND DAY INTERVIEW. THEN THAT COULD WORK. AND THEN WE WOULD DETERMINE ANOTHER DAY FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECONVENE. SO FROM ONE TO THE TO THE NEXT TUESDAY. YES. SHOULD BE MARCH 3RD FOR THE SECOND DAY THEN. AND THEN WITH THAT AND WHAT DAY WOULD WE BE CONVENING TO THAT TENTATIVE. YEAH. YOU DID THAT LIKE 4 OR 5 CITY COMMISSIONER. SO MAY I ASK A QUESTION? THE 23RD IS A COMMISSION MEETING DAY. THAT'S A 530 START TIME. WOULD THE COMMISSION AN MPO BOARD MEETING FROM 9 TO 12? OKAY. NO, NO, NOT ON A MEETING DAY? NO. OKAY. IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE MPO, I'D BE FOR IT. YEAH, I WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR IT ALSO. I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE. WE'RE ALREADY HERE, RIGHT? WHY CAN'T WE MAKE ANOTHER DAY LIKE A. SORRY. NO. ARE YOU THINKING I WAS GOING TO MAKE AN EIGHTH DAY AND YOU SAID THERE WAS A CONFLICT ON THE SECOND AND THE 3RD OF MARCH. THE 3RD OF MARCH WAS GOOD FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECONVENE TO DECIDE THE SELECTED CANDIDATE. SECOND. I AGREED ON THAT DAY. CORRECT. THE SECOND, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CONFLICT. WELL, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE THIRD THEN AS THE SECOND DAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW DO YOU FEEL, COMMISSIONER RICH, ABOUT THAT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO WE JUST NEED A MOTION THEN FOR A SECOND DAY, MARCH 3RD, I THINK. ARE WE STILL GOING TO KEEP RICARDO? I MEAN, NUMBER 62 ON HERE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER THE SECOND DATE. THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO SELECTING THE CANDIDATES. LET'S GET THE DATES DOWN. WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THROUGH THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING A SECOND DATE. LET'S GET THAT DATE DOWN AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THE CANDIDATES. OKAY. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE SECOND? YEAH, I WOULD JUST I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT I WOULD JUST LET'S DO A MOTION TO HAVE THE FIRST DAY OF INTERVIEWS AND THE SECOND DAY. SO THE FIRST MOTION FOR FIRST DAY OF INTERVIEWS ON FEBRUARY 24TH AND THE SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS TO BE ON MARCH 3RD. OKAY, I'LL MOVE YOU. LAURA. NO, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SELECT FEBRUARY 24TH AS THE FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS FOR THE APPLICANTS FOR CITY MANAGER. AND THAT MARCH 3RD BE THE SECOND DAY OF ROUND OF INTERVIEWS FOR THAT CITY MANAGER POSITION. THANK YOU. AGREE. I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. SHE AGREED. DIDN'T. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOB FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND DATES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLERK. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION SELECTED? MARY. VICE MAYOR. REED. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. NOW. AND JUST ONE TO. AT SOME POINT, YOU'LL GIVE US A BREAKDOWN SIMILAR TO THIS FOR THE AMOUNT OF INTERVIEWS ON THE SECOND DAY, MARCH 2ND. INDEED. YOU'RE [00:55:01] WELCOME. MARCH 3RD. SORRY. THE BOARD'S READY TO DISCUSS THE SECOND ROUND. LET ME KNOW. I'M READY, I'M READY. OH, MR. VICE MAYOR. YES? WHEN YOU DECIDED ON YOUR CANDIDATES, DID YOU GO? YES. SO DID YOU VOTE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL AT ONE AT A TIME? SO WHAT I DID FOR THE SECOND ROUND, I, I PERSONALLY LIKE WHAT'S ON THE SECOND ROUND AS PRESENTED. ONE THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO WOULD BE DAVID HARVELL. OR I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANT LATOYA ON THERE, I JUST I'M LOOKING FOR CITY MANAGER EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS RAMONE NOW AND JORGE AND SHAMARA, THOSE ARE OUT OF STATE. I PERSONALLY AM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN FLORIDA THAT WAS MY PRIORITY. CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD FLORIDA? I DON'T SEE RAMONE NUMBER NUMBER 71 AND NUMBER 42. WHAT NUMBER 71 IS LATOYA RICKETTS? NUMBER 42 IS DAVID HARVELL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ONE BIG MOTION. YEAH. I THINK YOU HAD A CONSENSUS ON THE TOP EIGHT. AND NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND TIER FOR THE SECOND DAY OF INTERVIEWS. SO IS THERE ANYONE. YEAH. ONCE YOU GET IT DOWN THEN DO A FINAL MOTION. SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT. SO THE ONES THAT WERE ADDED WERE 71 I'LL MENTION THE TAB NUMBER. IT WAS 71. LATOYA RICKETTS 18. RAMONE COLIN 24 WAS JORGE DICKENS, 42 WAS DAVID HARVELL, 72 WAS SHEMAR ROBINSON. THOSE WERE THE FIVE THAT WERE ADDED AFTER IT BEING PUBLISHED. I MENTIONED WAS NUMBER 19. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU SAID 71, 18, 24, 42 AND 72. THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE ADDED AFTER IT BEING PUBLISHED. MY PERSONAL OPINION IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE DAVID HARVELL THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PUBLISHED. LATOYA YES, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM INTERVIEWING. IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD DESIRES. I'D WANT HER INTERVIEWED, BUT MY ONLY OPINION WAS THERE WAS NO CITY MANAGER EXPERIENCE, BUT A LOT OF GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER CLERK. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE ON HERE. HOW YOU FEEL, COMMISSIONER RICH, THAT YOU FEEL AS IF SHOULD BE IN THE SECOND ROUND THAT I DIDN'T MENTION, OR AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER. CLERK AND I BOTH MENTIONED THAT WOMAN 24 WAS INTERESTING. I HAD HE HAS A LAW DEGREE, AN MP, A. HE HAS AN INTERESTING RESUME. I THINK HE SHOULD BE INTERVIEWED. 24 CORRECT, CORRECT. 42 THAT WAS DAVID HARVELL. WE, I THINK COMMISSIONER, CLERK AND MYSELF AGREE WITH THAT FOR A SECOND ROUND. I JUST REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHY HE WAS IN COLLEGE FOR TEN YEARS. HARD TIME MAYBE. OKAY. AND 72 WAS WHAT, 24? SHAMIR ROBINSON IT COMES TO SHE'S NEVER SUPERVISED A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WAS MY IMPRESSION. OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE LEAVING. YEAH. AND COMMISSIONER CLERK, WHEN IT COMES TO GEORGE DICKENS, DID HE HAVE I SEE FIREFIGHTER I DIDN'T HAVE THAT LIST. BUILDING INSPECTOR LEADERSHIP SKILLS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW NO CITY MANAGER. WHAT JUMPED OUT AT YOU WITH THEM? IT WASN'T ME WHO WAS. WHICH ONE? GEORGE? 2424. YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A LAW DEGREE. YEAH, YOU MENTIONED THEM. YOU BROUGHT THEM UP. NO, WE DON'T. I DIDN'T MENTION THEM, COMMISSIONER. WHO BROUGHT HIM UP? I DON'T SEE THAT. NO, THIS IS THE LIST YOU GAVE ME. YOU SAID IT WAS ADDED AFTER IT WAS PUBLISHED. WHERE'S GEORGE DICKENS ON THAT? I THINK IT'S 18 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHY DID YOU SAY HE HAD A LAW DEGREE? I DIDN'T SEE THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING, I WROTE DOWN EACH COMMISSIONER WHO MENTIONED SOMEONE. COMMISSIONER RICH MENTIONED GEORGE DICKENS. NUMBER 24. CORRECT. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY HE'S ON THE LIST. OH, OH. OH, OKAY. SORRY IF I MAY INTERJECT REAL QUICK. YOU GOT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE. YES. LEE GEORGE DICKENS, WE KEEP USING THE TERM PUBLISHED, BUT THE SHEET OF PAPER WAS CREATED TODAY BY RA'S AFTER THE COMMITTEE, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS NECESSARILY. WELL, HE WENT TO THE MITCHELL HAMLINE SCHOOL OF LAW. RIGHT. PRESENTED TO US. JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT, YES, MBA, IDENTIFY THE NAMES. YEAH. FOR THE RECORD, EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER RICH IS STATING WHY HE THINKS MR. DICKENS IS THE MP. HE WENT TO THE MITCHELL HAMLINE SCHOOL OF LAW. HE HAD. HE HAS AN MPA, A MASTERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT'S AN MPA? IS ROSS. IT IS MPA. OKAY. AND HE'S A FIRE INSPECTOR. YOU KNOW, I DON'T HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THERE. OKAY. WE HAVE A FIRE CHIEF. ALL RIGHT? WE CAN. WE HAVE A FIRE CHIEF. WE CAN CROSS GEORGE OFF THAT SUPERVISOR. SO [01:00:01] THE OTHER ONE WAS NUMBER 18. YEAH, THAT WAS RAMON COLLIN. THAT WAS OUT OF STATE AS WELL. I MEAN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM PULLING UP EIGHT. IT'S TAB 18 IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT IT. I THINK HE'S OREGON ISN'T HE. IN HIS I THINK MR. COLON WAS OREGON ENVIRONMENTAL WHICH IS GOOD. THE ENVIRONMENTAL. IT SHOWED UP. IT'S GOOD FOR US. YEAH. MR. COLON CURRENTLY RESIDES IN THE STATE OF OREGON, SO HE COULD NOT POSSIBLY MOVE FURTHER FROM WHERE HE CURRENTLY IS. A BIG JUMP. YEAH. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO STAY WITH THE A CANDIDATE IN FLORIDA BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OR HOPEFULLY A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF FLORIDA RULES AND REGULATIONS. A LOT OF THE OTHER. SORRY, MR. MAYOR. MR. VICE MAYOR, SO THERE IS A THERE IS A COLUMN FOR FLORIDA RESIDENT ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND GRANTS AND SO ON. SO YOU KNOW THAT IS IMPORTANT ALSO ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE SO I REALLY THINK WHAT NEEDS DISCUSSED IF LATOYA RICKETTS IS GOING TO BE IN THE SECOND DAY, RAMON COLLIN, DAVID HARVELL AND TAMARA ROBINSON, I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR FLORIDA ONES, AND I BELIEVE ONLY LATOYA AND DAVID HARVELL WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. I'M FINE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH THOSE TWO. I'M FINE WITH THAT. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO LIST THE NAMES FOR THE RECORD? LEE OF ALL OF THEM? WE'RE GETTING THERE. OKAY, YEAH. IF WE'RE IF WE'RE DONE. I DON'T THINK COLIN DONNELLY IS QUALIFIED. NEITHER IS ARETHA FARRELL. BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I. I DIDN'T HAVE HER. NO, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE HER THEM OUT. NO FLORIDA EXPERIENCE. WE COULD TAKE OUT NUMBER 28 AND NUMBER 25, NUMBER 28 AND NUMBER 25. SO THOSE ONES WE ALREADY GOT A CONSENSUS WITH THAT. WE WANTED THEM THERE OKAY. OH FROM THE COMMITTEE OKAY. NO NOT JUST FROM THE COMMITTEE FROM THIS BOARD THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW. I ONLY SHOW DAVID LATOYA AS WHAT WE'VE AGREED ON SO FAR. YEAH WE DID. WE DIDN'T WANT OTHER THAN THE SECOND ROUND. WE DON'T WANT THEM. I'M NOT SAYING YOUR COMMITTEE DOESN'T WANT THEM, BUT YEAH. OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING KEEP THE COMMITTEE ONES AND JUST ADD TWO PEOPLE? CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. SO BASICALLY IT'S AS PUBLISHED. AND WHEN I SAY PUBLISHED HANDED OUT FROM TODAY FROM AS RECOMMENDED AS RECOMMENDED. AND WE'RE JUST ADDING LATOYA RICKETTS AND DAVID HARVELL. OKAY. AND THEN WE WOULD BE IN TWO DAYS, WE'D BE THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY AND THEN MARCH 3RD FOR THE SECOND DAY. ARE WE IN A FINAL QUESTION, ALPHABETICAL ORDER. THE FINAL QUESTION IS, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION, SHOULD THEY BE RANKED? YEAH, THAT'S THE NEXT. THAT'S THE NEXT. YEAH. SO ARE WE IN AGREEMENT FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONE WHEN WE HAVE THE MEETING. WHEN THEY COME TO US THEY'RE GOING TO BE RANKED. YES. NO I DIDN'T WANT TO RANK THEM. I JUST SAID IF SOMEONE DROPS OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND. WELL YEAH. LET ME EXPLAIN. SO WE INITIALLY HAD ONE DAY AND YOU HAD BACKUPS IN ESSENCE IN THE SECOND ROUND OR SECOND TIER. SO IF YOU HAD ONE DAY OF INTERVIEWS AND PEOPLE DROPPED OUT OF THAT, THE FIRST PRIMARY LIST, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE THEM. BUT NOW YOU'VE SELECTED ALL OF THEM IN TWO SEPARATE DAYS. SO I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO RANK THEM. OKAY. I THINK YOU OUGHT TO LEAVE EVEN IN YOUR MOTION. I THINK YOU OUGHT TO LEAVE IT OPEN. JUST THE ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES WILL BE INTERVIEWED ON THESE TWO DAYS, BECAUSE SOME CANDIDATES MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE. RIGHT. SO WE COULD SWAP. I AGREE WITH THAT, LEE. WHAT I'M SAYING, WHEN WE COME FOR THE DAY OF THE INTERVIEW, WE ARE GOING TO BE RANKING AND MARKING DOWN. CORRECT? RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A SUBSEQUENT YOU'LL HAVE A SUBSEQUENT COMMISSION MEETING WHERE YOU GUYS WILL JUST HAVE THIS SIMILAR DISCUSSION ON THE PEOPLE THAT YOU INTERVIEWED. AND WE'RE CHOOSING A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE, BUT I PROBABLY IT'S PROBABLY GUARANTEED SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO DROP OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO GET JOBS ELSEWHERE. AND BY THE TIME YOU CALL THEM TO SET UP AN INTERVIEW. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO MENTION ALL THE NAMES? I THINK FOR THE RECORD, YEAH. WE SHOULD. YEAH. SO FOR THE RECORD, TAB SIX IS GLENN ADAMS, TAB 34 IS MICHAEL GIARDINO, TAB 56 IS JEREMY MARSHALL, TAB 80 IS LARRY TIBBS. TAB 19 IS SHANE CORBIN, TAB 58 IS MARK MATHIS, TAB 73 IS CHRISTOPHER RUSSO, TAB 83 IS CHANDLER WILLIAMSON, TAB 25 IS COLIN DONNELLY. TAB 28 IS ARETHA FARRELL BENAVIDEZ. TAB 40 OR 32 IS CARL GEFFKEN. TAB 44 IS STANLEY HAWTHORNE, TAB 62 IS RICARDO MENDEZ, TAB 71 IS LATOYA RICKETTS, AND TAB 42 IS DAVID HARVILLE. SO. SO WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THAT LIST OF [01:05:05] CANDIDATES TO BE INTERVIEWED, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. LIKE LEE SAID, IT WOULD JUST BE DONE OVER TWO DAYS. WHOEVER CAN FIT THAT CRITERIA FOR THE TWO DAYS. SO IF WE HAVE THE CORRECT MIX AND MATCH, WE CAN IN THE MOTION. DO YOU NEED TO MENTION THEIR NAMES OR CAN WE JUST MENTION, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK YOU CAN MOTION THE LIST THAT THE VICE MAYOR JUST IDENTIFIED. AND IT GIVES US TIME TO CALL THEIR REFERENCES. YEAH, A LOT OF CALLS WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION, MR. CLARK. MR. VICE MAYOR, ACTING AS MAYOR. THE LIST THAT WAS READ BY YOURSELF FOR THE. ON THE RECORD TODAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SET UP TIMES TO INTERVIEW THOSE PERSONS OVER A TWO DAY PERIOD AND THAT THE TIMES BE ARRANGED WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH STAFF, AND THEN THAT WE BE NOTIFIED WHEN WHO WILL COME ON WHICH DAY. THE DAYS WOULD BE THE. THE LAST ONE IS THE 3RD OF MARCH, AND THE FIRST DAY IS THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY. WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION AND THE APPLICANTS FOR THE CITY MANAGER POSITION? SEEING NONE. MARY. I'M SORRY. MR. ROBB, CAN I IS THE GUY WHO WAS IN COLLEGE FOR TEN YEARS ON THERE AND THAT LIST, I BELIEVE THAT WAS DAN HARVELL. LET ME MAKE SURE. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. IF HE IS, COULD YOU PLEASE JUST APPROACH HIM AND ASK HIM? I WILL, THANK YOU AGAIN. IT WAS PROBABLY PART TIME ONGOING, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY. YES, THAT WAS NUMBER. THIS IS DAVID HARVELL JOB NUMBER 42. YEAH. OH HE IS ON THE LIST 42 OKAY. YEAH. BUT HE HAS 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE TOO. SO MAYBE HE'S VERY IMPRESSIVE, BUT MAYBE HE TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS OFF. WHO KNOWS. WELL MY WIFE TOOK SEVEN YEARS TO GET TO COLLEGE, SO I HAVE TO LEAVE. MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AFTER WE VOTE. SO SHE ATTENDED SOME VERY GOOD SCHOOLS. SO READY WHENEVER YOU ARE, MARY. OKAY. VICE MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS A QUESTION FOR RYAN. I DIDN'T WANT THE MEETING TO CLOSE BEFORE, SO, ROSS, I. I REMEMBERED WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH IT. THEN I FORGET NOW. DID YOU SEE THE THE PART ABOUT HOW PEOPLE. I KNOW WE HAD 83, 83 APPLICANTS, 82, 82. SO IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LITTLE QUESTION THAT SAYS, HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE JOB, LIKE ICMA OR INTERNET OR WHATEVER, DID YOU ACTUALLY DID RYAN GO THROUGH AND DO A LITTLE SURVEY AND SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT US? WE DO TRACK THAT THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE. SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF COMPILING ALL OF THAT. BUT YES, IT IS TRACKED. MOST OF THEM FIND OUT THROUGH GOV JOBS, OKAY. MOST OF THEM FROM THE GOVERNMENT JOBS WEBSITES OKAY. IS THAT WHY WE GET SOMEONE FROM OUT OF STATE? PROBABLY. EXACTLY. EXACTLY HOW WAS I UNDERSTAND IT. THE JOBS NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY FED TO THE INDIVIDUALS. CORRECT. SO YOU KNOW WE'LL HAVE A RESUME ONLINE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT'LL SAY I'M SEEKING AND THEN THAT WILL SAY HERE'S THIS POSITION. AND STUART RATHER THAN THEM FINDING IT OKAY, IT'S PRESENTED TO THEM. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE SIGNED ON WITH NEOGA AND GOV JOBS FOR THAT VERY REASON. THEY BUILD AN ACCOUNT AS THE ATTORNEY MENTIONED AND THEN THEY CAN SELECT I'M INTERESTED AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS. THEN WHEN IT'S POSTED IT DOES IT PINGS THEM. YEAH I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS HERE OKAY. ARE WE CLOSING? I WILL HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I WILL EXPECT A NEW BINDER WITH ONLY THE REMAINING APPLICANTS TO BE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. IS THAT MR. CARTER OVER THERE? MR. CARTER, COULD YOU COME FORWARD A MINUTE? SINCE YOU'RE VISITING WITH US? I JUST MET MR. CARTER RECENTLY. HI, RYAN, THIS IS MR. RYAN CARTER. JUST GO OVER TO THE PODIUM AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. AND MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A GREEN CARD AS WELL. YEAH. NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING TO US. YEAH. NO, NO. ONE OF THESE DAYS HE'LL COME AND SPEAK TO US. BUT SINCE I SAW HIM IN THE AUDIENCE. SO, MR. CARTER, JUST SAY HELLO TO US AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THAT'S ALL. HELLO. MY NAME IS RYAN CARTER. I'M OF FLORIDA STREET, SOUTHEAST FLORIDA STREET, OVER IN THE EAST STUART AREA. THANK YOU. AND HE'S BEEN DOING THE BASKETBALL. I DIDN'T GET TO GO ON SUNDAY, BUT WE'LL WE'LL HEAR [01:10:03] MORE FROM MR. CARTER. I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM COME IN AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT HIS BASKETBALL PROGRAM AND HIS OTHER PROGRAMS. SO GOOD. MR. CARTER, ARE YOU FROM CHICAGO? NO, SIR. NOT AT ALL. BUT I GREW UP A BULLS FAN. MICHAEL JORDAN'S A GOAT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CARTER. RYAN DOES A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY, BY THE WAY, WITH THE NEXT GENERATION. I WENT TO MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEY HAD THE NONPROFIT OF STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT VERSUS MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S. THAT WAS AN EVENT THAT RYAN WAS A BIG PART OF. SO HE DOES A LOT FOR THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. A LOT OF CONVERSATION. SO TRYING TO EDUCATE AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN. BUT ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO, SIR. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO. YES. YOU GOTTA COME TO THE PODIUM. OKAY. NO, YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE. YOU RAN AWAY. YOU RAN AWAY WHEN YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE. OBVIOUSLY, I MISSED THE BULK OF TODAY'S CONTENTS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS. I MEAN, LIKE, IS THERE A WE HAVE A VIDEO ONLINE. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MEETING ONLINE. OKAY. AND I CAN ALSO SUM IT UP FOR YOU SO I CAN MAKE A COPY OF WHO WE SELECTED SO YOU CAN HAVE IT AHEAD OF TIME IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY DUE DILIGENCE ON ANY OF THEM. BUT BASICALLY WE HAVE TWO DAYS OF INTERVIEWS WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S WHAT, 813? THERE'S 15 POTENTIALS AND TWO DAYS FOR INTERVIEWS AND SOME MAY OR MAY NOT DROP OUT AND THEIR RESUMES WILL BE IN THE AGENDA PACKET MOVING FORWARD AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT YES, OKAY, THAT SUMS IT UP. AND THERE WERE 82 APPLICANTS TOTAL. MORE POWER TO YOU GUYS. IT WAS A LOT. BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.