Mar 23, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency

ALRIGHT. NOW LET'S NOT. BUT LATER WE CAN. I'D LOVE TO. ALRIGHT, I WILL CALL TO ORDER

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[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS (Non-Agenda Items)]

YOU MAY RECALL IT. I'M SURE SHE DOESN'T THINK OF IT AS AN IVORY TOWER. SHE'S GOT JORDAN. IT'S WELL, OKAY, SO NOW JORDAN SAVES THE DAY. SO IT'S A LONELY AREA AND FOR OUR CITY. AND IT'S A UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE USUALLY MOST CRAS ARE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY. BUT WE ARE TIGHTLY CLOSELY TIED WITH THE CITY GOVERNMENT HERE. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE APPRECIATION FOR THIS CRA AND FOR WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED. AND I HOPE WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE IN THE CRA.

THAT'S MY COMMENT. IT WAS A COMMENT. IT WAS. NO, IT WAS NOT A SERMON OR ANYTHING LIKE VICE CHAIR. NO COMMENT. ALRIGHT. MY COMMENTS WOULD BE WHAT I EMAILED YOU WITH REGARD TO GUY DAVIS AND THE SKATE PARK AND JUST HOPING WE CAN GET MOVING FASTER. I'M PUSHING. I KNOW YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN. SO HOPEFUL FOR FOR AN UPDATE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE

[1. PRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ANNUAL REPORT 2025]

FOR THE RECORD, WE DID HAVE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN ADVANCING OUR PROJECTS THIS YEAR. YOU CAN SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION WORK BEING IN IN PROGRESS IN THE CRA. WE'VE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN PUBLIC SPACES. WE'RE PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WANT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. EVERY YEAR WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH IN THE NEWSPAPER OF THIS AVAILABLE ANNUAL REPORT FOR TRANSPARENCY. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

WE WILL ALSO MAIL A COPY OF THIS APPROVED REPORT TO THE COUNTY AND ALL THE TAXING AUTHORITIES, AND IT WILL BE ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. YOU HAVE THE COMPLETE ANNUAL REPORT IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY PROJECTS AND WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED IN 2025. SO IN 2025, WE FUNDED SIX APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE PROGRAM WITH THE TOTAL FUNDING OF $56,000. THIS DOES ENCOURAGE PROPERTY OWNERS TO INVEST THEIR OWN FUNDINGS TO IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTIES TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CRA. THE TREE INFILL PROGRAM IS UNDERWAY.

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WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT IN PREPARING A MASTER PLAN AND IDENTIFY IDENTIFYING PREFERRED TREE SPECIES BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE RECEIVED FROM CLAY AND BONNIE WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON THE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. AND WE. WE EXPECT TO PRESENT THE MASTER PLAN TO THE CRB AND THE CRA BOARD IN JUNE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN PLANT ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS AND SHADE TREES. SO WE'LL PRESENT THE LOCATIONS AND ASK THE BOARD TO PRIORITIZE THOSE AREAS IN JUNE. WE FUNDED ONE PROJECT THROUGH THE MURAL MATCHING GRANT WITH AN AWARD OF $3,000. THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PROGRAM WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL POLES ON OCEAN BOULEVARD AND SOUTHEAST DENVER AVENUE AND OSCEOLA STREET AND DETROIT AVENUE. WE WANT TO CONTINUE PROMOTING BUSINESSES NOT JUST WITHIN THE OLD HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO EAST OF EAST OF OLD HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, TO BRING ATTENTION TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND EXPAND OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. IN 2025, WE INSTALLED FOUR ADDITIONAL MOSAIC ARTWORKS, BRINGING A TOTAL OF TEN MOSAIC THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE CREEK DISTRICT. IN 2025, WE RECEIVED THREE APPLICATIONS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL FACADE IMPROVEMENTS AND PAINT UP PROGRAM. WE REIMBURSED UP TO $3,000 FOR THOSE PROJECTS, AND WE PLANTED 27 TREES IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A TOTAL OF $9,000. THE CRA IS ALSO WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT ON SEVEN PARCELS ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF US, ONE BETWEEN JOHN JEFFERSON AND SAINT LUCIE CRESCENT. THIS IS PART OF OUR FEDERAL HIGHWAY STREET TREE PROGRAM. WE ARE DOING A FIELD SURVEYS AND PRELIMINARY PLANS TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALKS ON US. ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF US, ONE BETWEEN JOHN JEFFERSON AND SAINT LUCIE CRESCENT, AND PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES. THIS REQUIRES US TO COORDINATE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND SECURE NECESSARY EASEMENTS. PER THE US ONE STREET TREE PROGRAM, AND JORDAN IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT. IN 2025, WE RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FOR THE HEIRS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE COORDINATE WITH OUR PROBATE ATTORNEY TO CLEAR THE TITLE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1620 ARAPAHOE AVENUE. JUST LAST WEEK, WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE FIRST APPLICATION FOR THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED AND THE PROBATE WAS CLOSED. WE RECEIVED TWO ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS SINCE THEN AND. AND WE'RE GOING TO I'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THOSE APPLICATION, HAVE THOSE MOVES FORWARD. BUT WE ARE STARTING TO GET A LOT MORE INTEREST FROM E. STEWART AND APPLICATIONS FROM THAT AREA, WHICH IS WHERE WE IDENTIFY MOST OF THE PROPERTY THAT NEEDED CLEAR THE TITLE. IN 2025, WE COMPLETED WRAPPING OF 12 TRAFFIC CONTROL BOXES WITHIN THE CRA TO ENHANCE THE VISUAL APPEAL APPEAL AND SHOWCASE PUBLIC ART. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO DESIGNATE E! STEWART ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. THIS PROJECT, THIS PROGRAM OR PROJECT HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS FOR 3 TO 4, FIVE, 3 TO 4 YEARS. DURING THAT TIME, WE HELD MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO GATHER FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY, COLLECT HISTORICAL MATERIAL, CREATE A WEBSITE FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND JUST LAST TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD THE STATE VISIT THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR FEEDBACK. WE DID GET SOME PUSHBACK ON THE NAME FOR THE FOR THE DISTRICT. THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO RENAME IT TO E STEWART HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THAT WAS WELL RECEIVED BY THE STATE. AND WE WILL BE CHANGING THE NAME TO E STEWART HISTORIC DISTRICT. ALSO, EVERYBODY THAT SIGNED IN RECEIVED A NOMINATION APPLICATION PACKAGE FOR THEIR REVIEW. SO WE CAN CAPTURE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS MISSING IN THE IN THE APPLICATION. SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE WITH THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN THE FINAL NOMINATION APPLICATION WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC REVIEW BOARD IN MAY. THEY'LL MAKE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO LIST THE DISTRICT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. AND ONCE THAT BOARD APPROVES IT, THE FINAL DECISION WILL BE FORWARDED TO NATIONAL PARK SERVICES FOR OFFICIAL LISTING. SO THIS COULD ALL HAPPEN BETWEEN MAY THROUGH JULY, WHERE WE'LL FORMALLY GET A LETTER FROM THE STATE OF THIS NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION FOR E STEWART. IN 2025, WE WERE AWARDED A $1.6 MILLION GRANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. WE PRESENTED THAT PROJECT TO THE CRA BOARD. WE

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FOLLOWING COMPLETION, WE ENHANCED THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK ALSO WITH UPGRADED WALKWAYS, NEW BENCHES AND LANDSCAPING. WE'RE GOING TO ALSO DO NEW SIGNAGE AND DECORATIVE FENCE.

THIS IS THE THE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK KNOWN AS OLEANDER PARK WITHIN THE RIVERSIDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. SO ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, WE'VE NOT JUST IMPROVED THE SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS, LANDSCAPING, WE ALSO IMPROVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FOR MLK STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT CAME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION LAST. LAST MONTH, THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZED STAFF TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. WE'RE CURRENTLY ADVANCING THAT DESIGN TO 60%, AND WE PLAN TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD IN APRIL SO WE CAN GET FEEDBACK ON THE 60% DESIGN. IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE ALSO IMPLEMENTING INTERIM SOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE SAFETY AT THE INTERSECTION OF MLK AND GEORGIA AVENUE, INCLUDING FOUR WAY STOP SIGNS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED BY THE COMMISSION AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL TO ADDRESS SIGHTLINE ISSUES. GUY DAVIS PARK COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WHERE WE JUST HAVE SOME FINAL COMPONENTS TO TO FINISH UP SO WE CAN APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS. WE ANTICIPATE TO APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS BY MAY AND GO OUT FOR BIDDING IN SUMMER AWARD CONTRACT, AND THEN GO IN CONSTRUCTION BY OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. AND THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO COMPLETE.

AND I AM PUSHING THE CONSULTANT TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME DELAYS, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT ON THIS. FABRICATION FOR PHASE TWO OF THE GATEWAY. SIGNAGE IS ALSO UNDERWAY, INCLUDING THE HORIZONTAL MONUMENT SIGNS AND STEWART'S AT STEWART'S ENTRY POINTS. WE ANTICIPATE INSTALLATION OF THE ADDITIONAL SIGNS THIS SUMMER. THERE WERE SOME DELAYS WITH THE PRODUCTION AND TARIFFS, SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO USE THE SAME MATERIAL THAT WE'VE ALREADY USED FOR THE VERTICAL SIGNS. SO THERE WAS SOME DELAY WITH FABRICATION. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET BACK IN ORDER AND GET THAT FABRICATED AND INSTALL THE SIGNS BY SUMMER. AT THE DIXIE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WE RECEIVED FDOT GRANT FOR THE DIXIE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FROM JOHN JEFFERSON TO OCEAN BOULEVARD. WE HAD A KICK OFF MEETING IN 2025 WITH FDOT AND SUBMITTED THE PRELIMINARY AND INITIAL PLANS FOR THEIR REVIEW AND COMMENTS. SO THIS YEAR, WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE MEETING ALL THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS AND DELIVERABLES FOR THROUGHOUT 2026. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM FDOT, WE WILL ENTER INTO A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH WITH THEM.

AND WE ANTICIPATE TO START CONSTRUCTION IN EARLY 2027. WE ARE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTING THE CDBG COVID GRANT PROGRAM. IF YOU DRIVE BY THIS SITE, CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY FOR A PROJECT FACILITY AND WE ANTICIPATE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION FOR PROJECT LIFT BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL THIS SUMMER. THE CDBG HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM. WE COMPLETED SEVEN PROJECTS. ONE PROJECT INVOLVED DEMOLITION REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. ANOTHER PROJECT IS AWAITING APPROVAL ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH IS MR. HAMILTON'S PROJECT. HOWEVER, WE

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YEAH, IT WOULD COME TO US OR IF OUR CR, CRB, THE LPA. OKAY, IT'S OUTSIDE THE CRA. RIGHT.

WELL, BUT IF THERE'S MONEY'S AVAILABLE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE ONLY TREE PROGRAM. CLAY, ARE YOU AWARE OF OTHER PROGRAMS OUT THERE? CAN I JUST COME? YES, PLEASE. I'M SO HAPPY THAT THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING THIS. SO THE IT'S MY SENSE, HAVING LOOKED AT THIS OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO, IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE CRA, THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT CRB OR CRA FRONTAL BRANCH, LET'S SAY, CAN BE SENT TO THE CITY. AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND SOME OF YOU GUYS INVOLVED WAS KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, LET'S JUST DO IT WITH THE CITY OUTSIDE THE CRA AND SEEK FUNDS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. THAT WOULD REQUIRE LIKE FUNDING.

MIKE IS NOT ON WHO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO, BUT WE HEARD YOU. BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO PURSUE GRANTS. AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY INVOLVE SOME OF THE STAFF TIME AND SO ON. SO ONCE ONCE WE HAVE SOME CLARITY ON ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. RIGHT? WHO WHO IS IT THE CITY MANAGER OR IS IT MILTON? SO WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT TO ADVISE BONNIE AT THIS POINT. I THINK SHE'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATED. SHE KEEPS ASKING, SHE KEEPS BRINGING IT UP, AND WE DON'T MOVE ANY FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. SO IT'S NOT NOT MY MOST POPULAR THING EITHER.

REALLY LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. SO SOMEONE TELL ME, HOW DO WE GET HER IN FRONT OF THE LPA IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION? LET'S ADVISE HER. YOU KNOW, SHE'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO WHAT PROGRAMS AND GRANTS ARE OUT THERE FOR TREES OUTSIDE OF THE CRA. COULD I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YES, PLEASE. PERHAPS DIRECTION FROM YOU. I DON'T THINK IT TAKES A MOTION DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING, BUT FOR STAFF TO HELP START TO LOOK INTO THIS AS TO HOW WE WOULD SEEK FUNDS, OR WHERE IN THE BUDGET DO WE SEEK FUNDS? PANEL HAS AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ALMOST TEN GRAND FOR 27 TREES. WELL, IF WE END UP WITH 150 REQUESTS FOR TREES AND WE DO IT OUTSIDE THE CRA, THAT'S GOING TO COST SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO WOULD WOULD THAT FIT INTO THE CURRENT CITY BUDGET? OR WOULD YOU NEED TO SEEK GRANTS? ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF WOULD TAKE A BIT OF WORK. AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE FROM THE CITY STAFF, BUT THEY WOULD NEED YOUR YOUR DIRECTION. AND EVEN BEFORE THAT POINT, THIS BOARD DISCUSSING WHAT THE SCOPE OF A TREE PROGRAM, THERE'S BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE PAST WITH THE HALF CENT SALES TAX MONEY EXPANDING THE EXISTING CRA TREE PROGRAM TO CITY WIDE, USING THAT HALF CENT SALES TAX MONEY FOR THAT, WHICH LOOKS

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE UP. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. OH. I, I THIS IS NOT THE ANNUAL REPORT, BUT JUST TO CLARIFY FOR MOST PEOPLE, AND I DON'T THINK I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO HAVE THIS UP SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT. BUT WITH REGARD TO THE NAME OF EAST STEWART AND THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. SO EAST STEWART HAS BEEN A NAME THAT HAS BEEN USED SINCE AFTER 1913 WHEN THE COMMUNITY WAS ESTABLISHED. BUT THE COMMUNITY IS ESTABLISHED BASED ON SUBDIVISIONS. AND I THINK THEY'RE LINCOLN PARK, LITTLE DIXIE, MCDONALD'S AND BOGAN SUBDIVISION. THERE MAY BE ONE MORE, BUT THOSE ARE THE SUBDIVISIONS THERE. AND E STEWART ITSELF IS NOT A PLACE LIKE YOU COULD GO A WAYFINDER OR WITH A POST OFFICE OR WITH A CENSUS AND FIND EAST STEWART AS A PLACE ANYWHERE. IT HAS JUST BEEN A NAME THAT'S BEEN LOCALIZED AND HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION. I THINK MISS AUDREY LANDERS CAME TO THE COMMISSION BACK IN THE EARLY 70S OR LATE 60S, OR SOMETIME AROUND 75, BECAUSE THEY HAD A BIG 75, 76. THERE WAS A BIG INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION IN THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME. BUT MISS LANDERS HAD PUSHED FOR THAT E STEWART TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE EVEN THE SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE FROM BACK IN THE 30S WAS CALLED E STEWART TRAINING SCHOOL. SO IT HAS BEEN IN USE, BUT IT'S NOT A GEOGRAPHICAL NAME. IT'S NOT A POST OFFICE NAME. IT'S NOT A MAP NAME. AND IF THE CITY OF STEWART REALLY WANTS TO RECOGNIZE THESE, STEWART AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WANTING TO ADD THAT. I THINK LINCOLN PARK WAS THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS MCDONALD'S. BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MAP

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SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT US TO TO AGREE TO NAME IT E STEWART BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN NAMED. THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN NAMED. BUT I WILL TELL PEOPLE THAT IT'S SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT IS CONSIDERED THE HISTORIC EAST STEWART AREA. THAT'S IT. I THINK I HAD I HAD QUESTIONS ON CONFUSION CORNER BECAUSE BONNIE HAS ALSO BROUGHT UP SOMETHING ABOUT CONFUSION. AND SHE AND I IN MILTON HAVE MET. BUT I THINK I'M GOING TO DO THAT AT THE CITY COMMISSION AND TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN START TO GET MOVING ON THAT, AND MAYBE IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL STILL COME BACK TO THE C, R, A AND THEN THE THE OTHER THING WAS. THERE WAS A THING FOR BONNIE O HOUSING. WE HAD A SYSTEM AND I THINK THIS WAS THROUGH THE CRA. ALSO. WE HAD A SYSTEM WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT VACANT LOTS AND WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TO TRY TO GET SOME HOUSING DONE. WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN MAYBE 5 OR 6 YEARS, MAYBE EIGHT YEARS. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY HOUSING. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALSO AT CITY COMMISSION LEVEL, I THINK. SO WE WOULD NEED TO ACQUIRE SOME PROPERTIES. YEAH, PROPERTIES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOUSING AUTHORITY PROJECTS.

YEAH. BOARD MEMBER. FIRST TO THE EAST STEWART HISTORIC. I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST PART THAT WE NEED TO DO. ONCE THE STATE GIVES THEM THE HISTORIC STATUS OF V STEWART, THEN FROM THERE WE COULD GO TO DIFFERENT MAPQUEST, THINGS LIKE THAT AND START CHANGING OFFICIALLY THE NAME OF THE AREA. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS FIRST ON GETTING TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. YES, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO ABOUT CONFUSION CORNER. I REALLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL BECAUSE THE MONIES ARE IN THE CRA TO CORRECT THE CONFUSION CORNER ISSUE. SO IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE AND I'VE BROUGHT IT UP SEVERAL TIMES. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE ARE WE ON THAT. YOU KNOW, HAS ANYBODY BEEN ASKED TO GET SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL? LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS OF WAYS TO CHANGE CONFUSION CORNER TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DIFFERENT AVENUES OF SIGNAGE OR WHATEVER. HAVE WE GONE TO THE NEXT STEP? WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE CRA AND THE CONFUSION CORNER.

I'VE BEEN HERE SURE YOU TALKED T BEFORE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD. AND I'M HOPING THAT MILTON AND MAYBE WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING WITH MAIN STREET, THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT NEEDS TO COME UP AND MAYBE MAIN STREET WILL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT UP TO US. THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAIN THING FOR US, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MOVE TO THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING. THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR FRONT DOOR. WHATEVER HAPPENS IF WE CHANGE THE DESIGN THERE. AND BONNIE HAD SOME VERY GOOD IDEAS THAT KIND OF REFLECT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN JENSEN BEACH. WHEN YOU'RE THERE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIX. AND THE WAY THAT THAT ROUNDABOUT IS, IS DONE RIGHT OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS, SIMILAR TO CONFUSION CORNER, BUT THAT PROBABLY DOES NEED TO COME BACK. AND AGAIN, MR. GIARDINO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO HAPPEN. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE MILTON BETWEEN MILTON AND ROSS AND BONNIE AND WHATEVER MAIN STREET IS LOOKING AT, IF THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR FOCUS IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS, WE CAN ADD THAT TO OUR LIST TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. AND IT MAY NOT EVEN BE IN THIS

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ABSOLUTELY. THE CRA NEEDS TO HAVE A LIST TO SIT WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER. YEAH. AND GO OVER THOSE THINGS TO PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA. WE DO A LOT OF TALKING AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I'M TIRED. I WANT TO SEE IT ON AN AGENDA. I WANT TO SEE US MOVING FORWARD, WORKING ON IT, LOOKING AT OPTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS. DEFINITELY. RIGHT. AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. NO MORE TALKING. LET'S SIT DOWN WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER, HAVE THESE THINGS ON THE NEXT OR WELL, NOT THE NEXT, BUT PROBABLY TWO CRA MEETINGS FROM NOW. YEAH. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOAL. AND NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ME. IF TWO CRA MEETINGS FROM NOW, WE'RE STILL SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. NO NO NO I'M REALLY DONE. WELL, LET'S GET THIS TOGETHER.

EVERY YEAR WE HAVE WE ADOPT A CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO THAT PROJECT IS NOT PRIORITIZED RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD NEED TO ADD TO THE CIP.

AND I CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER, WHAT OUR EXISTING LIST CONSIST OF, WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED ABOUT THE CONFUSION CORNER. ADD THAT TO THE LIST, BRING THAT TO THE BOARD FOR ADOPTION WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET. SO THEN I CAN IDENTIFY FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO GO THROUGH A DESIGN OUTREACH PROCESS BEFORE WE EVEN START TALKING ABOUT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO CAN WE START SOMEWHERE? RIGHT. THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S NOT WAITING UNTIL IT'S AT OUR DOOR AT WELLS FARGO BECAUSE THAT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS AWAY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE WHOLE, WHETHER WE MOVE OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S STILL A DANGEROUS CORNER AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I'LL MAKE THAT A PRIORITY WITH THE CITY MANAGER COMES IN. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE PROGRAM. FOR THE AIR'S PROGRAM. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TITLES NEED TO BE CORRECTED WITHIN THE CITY? I DON'T HAVE I, I REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE 25 IN EAST STUART AND THERE WERE SOME OUTSIDE. SO A TOTAL OF ABOUT 30, ABOUT 30, 33. AND SO FAR TO DATE WE'VE HAD THREE. WELL, ONE WE'VE WE JUST COMPLETED ONE. JOE FLANAGAN IS REALLY HELPING TO PROMOTE THAT PROGRAM IN. STUART. I'M ALSO GOING TO N N DOUBLE ACP MEETING NEXT MONTH. THE PROBATE ATTORNEYS ALSO COMING TO THAT MEETING IN APRIL. SO WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO PROMOTE THAT PROGRAM AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE APPLICATIONS. ONCE WE GET THE APPLICATION. IT DOES TAKE SOME PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW, THE PROBATE ATTORNEY TO TALK WITH THE APPLICANT AND ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CLEAR THE TITLE. I THINK THAT'S THE KEY, IS GETTING THE FAMILIES IN AND NOT AT A MEETING, GETTING THEM IN INDIVIDUALLY. I DID NOTICE AT THE EAST HISTORIC WHEN THEY WERE HAVING THE SHIP OVER THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE I SPOKE TO REALLY WEREN'T. I MEAN, THEY KNOW THE PROGRAM EXISTS. YEAH. THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES. AS ONE GENTLEMAN SAID TO ME, WELL, MY UNCLE IS STILL ALIVE. WELL, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT WHILE HE'S STILL THERE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK ANOTHER GENERATION. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK IT'S MORE EDUCATION AND MAYBE GETTING THEM IN. WE KNOW WHO THE 25 OR 30 PEOPLE ARE. YEAH, YEAH.

SOMEHOW SET UP AN APPOINTMENT FOR THEM TO COME IN AND REALLY ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS OR WITH THE FAMILY, HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, HOW IT COULD BENEFIT THEM, AND THEN MAYBE THEY'LL PUT IN AN APPLICATION. SURE. YEAH, WE ARE, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS. SO WE'LL CONTINUE PUSHING. BUT IF I'M NOT A LAWYER AND MY FAMILY HASN'T EVER REALLY DISCUSSED DEEDS OR ANY OF THAT TITLE, I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW. IT'S JUST A PROGRAM THE CITY HAS. I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO ME. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. THAT'S THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION THAT WE MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE SO THAT WE CAN HELP GET THIS PROGRAM TO WORK. RIGHT. SO I'M HOPING THE NAACP MEETING IN IN APRIL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ATTEND THAT MEETING. THE PROBATE ATTORNEY WILL BE THERE, THE EXPERT IS THERE. SO SHE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. WE CAN GIVE HER INFORMATION TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK TO HER AFTER THE MEETING. SO YEAH, IT'S JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT AND CONTINUING TO. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE AT THAT MEETING TO HAVE A SIGN UP SHEET FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE ATTORNEY, WITH PROBATE ATTORNEY. OKAY, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST STEP ON A ONE ON ONE FAMILY AND ATTORNEY FOR THEM TO REALIZE WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, HOW HELPFUL IT IS, AND WHAT IT COULD DO FOR THEM. RIGHT. VICE CHAIR YES, YOU FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, ARE YOU TRYING TO LIKE FIX PROPERTY APPRAISER THE NEIGHBORHOOD CODE.

SO IT'S UNDER ONE FOR EAST STEWART. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY. NO, NO, IT'S IF YOU HAVE IT AS A NAME LIKE IT'S STEWART E STEWART IS NOT A CITY BY ITSELF. CORRECT. BUT SO THE WE'RE JUST DOING THE LINCOLN PARK OR THAT WAS GIVEN AS USING THE NAME BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THERE. BUT I THINK PEOPLE WANT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR STEWART TO BE MORE RECOGNIZED. BUT WHEN YOU CHECK WHEN IT'S LIKE THAT, IT'S LIKE A NAME, LIKE YOU'D SAY, EVEN

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OKAY. BUT DOES NOT RESTRICT THEM FROM DOING ANY IMPROVEMENTS. DEMO. IT DOES NOT GIVE ANY RESTRICTION PROTECTION. NO, NOT REAL PROTECTION UNLESS THEY ARE ON THE LOCAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY ADOPTED, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS SEPARATELY IF NOBODY WANTED TO SAVE IT. IT'S STILL GOING TO GET. NO, NOT IF YOU'RE THE LOCAL REGISTRY. IF YOU'RE ON THE LOCAL REGISTRY, THEN ANYTHING THAT THEY DO, THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT, WHICH IS THE CRB ALSO SERVES AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IF THEY'RE ON THE LOCAL REGISTER. WE ONLY HAVE 3 OR 4 PROPERTIES ON THE LOCAL REGISTRY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY BENEFITS OF HAVING CLEAR TITLE? THEY COULD GET HOMESTEADED FIRST OF ALL, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TAX BENEFITS THEY CAN GET, LOANS THEY CAN APPLY FOR. DO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A DEFICIT OF HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES IN E STEWART? WE DID HAVE I DON'T HAVE THE VALUE, BUT WE DID LOOK AT WHAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS VALUE WERE FOR THOSE FOR THOSE HOMES, 25 PROPERTIES WITHOUT HOMESTEAD THERE WITHOUT HOMESTEAD. RIGHT. OKAY. PLUS THEY CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS, STATE GRANTS, CITY GRANTS. IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE THEY HAVE CLEAR TITLE MORTGAGES, RIGHT? ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE ON THE PROPERTY, THEY CAN APPLY FOR DIFFERENT LOAN, MORE LOANS. RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY'RE KIND OF STUCK. ANOTHER THING WE COULD LOOK AT IS ONCE THEY GET CLEAR TITLE, I'M STARTING TO HEAR THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE CRA MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER, MAYBE ADOPTING A SPECIFIC PROGRAM FOR THOSE PROPERTIES ONCE THEY CLEAR TITLE, MAKE SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS SO THEY CAN MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVEMENTS. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THE ON THE THE BENEFITS? ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS IS THAT AND IT'S AN INTRINSIC BENEFIT. BASICALLY, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SEVERAL OWNERS TO THE PROPERTY AND IT'S GOING IN VARIOUS GENERATIONS, IT MAY BE A GRANDCHILD AND IT'S THEIR GRANDFATHER. THAT WAS THE LAST PERSON WHO HAD LIVED IN THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO THE PROPERTY IS AT RISK FOR FORECLOSURE. IF PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING THE TAXES, PEOPLE DON'T CARE. IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE WHO LIVES THERE. IT'S NOT ME. IT'S AND SO BECAUSE IT'S A PART OF THE FAMILY AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, YOU, YOU, YOU RUN THE RISK OF THAT PROPERTY NOT BEING. AND IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST PROPERTIES ALSO THAT GETS INVOLVED WITH OR CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF SOMEBODY IS NOT TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY, THEN IT'S CODE. IT'S GOING TO BE CODE IN FORCE. AND THEN THAT ALSO RUNS INTO FORECLOSURE. IF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT GETS TOO EXPENSIVE AND THEY GET TIED UP. SO IT, IT, IT'S REALLY ONE OF THOSE BENEFITS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CLEAR TITLE AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE AND PAYING THE TAXES AND PROVIDING FOR ANY TYPE OF SERVICES ON THERE. AND AGAIN, WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE WAY OUR CODE WORKS, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE PROPERTY RUNS INTO DISREPAIR, NOBODY'S LIVING ON IT, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PROPERTY COMES BACK AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY, HOW DO THEY

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NO, I THINK THEY WANT TO MAKE ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS, THE PROPERTY, IF WE'RE PAYING FOR SOMETHING, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO STAY IN THAT PROPERTY FOR 3 TO 5 YEARS. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR OUR PROGRAM. YEAH, THEY HAVE TO. THEY HAVE TO STAY IN THE PROPERTY FOR FIVE YEARS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT 3 TO 5 YEARS. I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT IF THEY USE THE FUNDS TO CLEAR THE TITLE, YES, THEY HAVE TO STAY. SO IT'S NOT TO CLEAR THE TITLE AND GO SELL IT OFF AND CREATE. I WON'T SAY ANY NAMES, BUT NO, IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR REDEVELOPING TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT AGAIN, THAT FAMILY UNIT, THAT SENSE OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS TO LITERALLY COME FROM THE ASHES AND RISE AS A PHOENIX TO BE A BEACON OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE FAMILY TO REDEVELOP. I MEAN, THAT, YES, YES, YES. AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO CHECK ON WHAT IS THAT TIME FRAME WHERE THEY HAVE TO HAVE, LET'S GET THE TITLES THREE YEARS OR THREE YEARS. YEAH. AND IT'S RECORDED. IS IT FIVE YEARS? OKAY. I COULDN'T REMEMBER 3 TO 5 YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE MAKE AVAILABLE? SO IT'S $3,000 PER PROBATE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PROBATE THAT THE PROPERTY REQUIRES. THE LAST ONE REQUIRED TWO CLEARING OF TWO. SO WE PAID ABOUT $6,000. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MR. BHAGAT. YEAH. MR. BHAGAT IN PROBATE MATTERS IS $3,000. THE PROBLEM IS BEING CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN PROBATE FOR A FRIEND. IT'S INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE. YES.

AND THE PROBLEM IS WITH THESE E STEWART OWNERS IS WE'RE TALKING GENERATIONS POTENTIALLY, AND THEY HAVE TO BE ALL TRACKED DOWN. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND ALL. SO FOR SEVERAL LEVELS, I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE GIVING THEM SEED MONEY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY FACE IT'S A CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE. WE WE REACHED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR WE INCREASED IT FROM 3000 TO 9, A TOTAL OF 9000 BECAUSE THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE PARTIES. RIGHT. THE ONE THAT JUST GOT COMPLETED IN FACT FELL UNDER THAT. SO WE WE ENDED UP INCREASING IT A TOTAL OF 9000 BECAUSE THERE COULD BE THREE DIFFERENT FAMILY MEMBERS THAT EACH NEED IT EASILY, RIGHT? APPROPRIATE SET UP. SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS ONLY THREE GRAND, BUT WE THEN FOUND THE PROBLEM AFTER THE LAWYER TOLD US, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MULTIPLE KIDS THAT EACH NEED A $3,000, YOU KNOW, RETAINER. YEAH. AND NOT EVERY FAMILY MEMBER WANTS IT CLEARED UP. YEAH. THERE PROBABLY COULD BE SOME FAMILY MEMBERS BENEFITING THAT WOULDN'T BENEFIT OTHERWISE. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE YOU MIGHT NOT GET COOPERATION FROM. YEAH. IF THERE'S NO COOPERATION THAT WE WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE THE APPLICATION, WE WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A MESS. IT'S EXPENSIVE, COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE PROCESS.

[2. CITY HALL HISTORY / STUART MAIN STREET SURVEY]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WHAT A GREAT REPORT FROM OUR CRA PANEL DOES A GREAT JOB. I'M JIM KOWALSKI. YEAH. YOU CAN APPLAUD HER. LOOK AT HER. YOU LOVE STARTING SOMETHING. AND I AM YOUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR. AND THROUGH MY TIME HERE WITH THE CITY OF STUART.

I'VE SERVED ON A LOT OF CAPACITIES. THE ONE ROLE THAT I HAVEN'T DONE WAS CITY HISTORIAN.

AND ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO DO TODAY, IS TO PRESENT TO YOU THE HISTORY OF CITY HALL.

ROSS. BEAR WITH ME ONE MINUTE. OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT POPCORN BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG ONE. I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE CAME FROM SEVERAL SOURCES, INCLUDING THIS BIG, GIANT BOOK HERE. SO IT'S BIG, IT'S THICK, AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF SCANS. THERE'S ALSO SOME INFORMATION THAT CAME FROM PAST PRESENTATIONS. I KNOW THE FORMER CITY MANAGER PRESENTED TO YOU ABOUT CITY HALL BEFORE, SO I LISTENED TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. SO IF THOSE PARTS ARE REDUNDANT, YOU'LL FORGIVE ME. BUT I'VE ADDED AN AWFUL LOT TO THAT AS WELL. AND THE FIRST THING IS, I WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHAT OUR SUBJECT AREA IS. I CALL IT GOD'S GREEN ACRE.

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IT'S HAD SEVERAL OWNERS FROM THAT POINT IN TIME AND THE CITY HAS RECENTLY WELL, NOT RECENTLY THE CITY HAS PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY. SO THE CITY OWNS THIS ENTIRE GREEN AREA, INCLUDING THE WHITE AREA THAT'S IN THE CENTER. THIS ALL GOES BACK TO 1999. I REMEMBER I WAS WORKING IN VERO BEACH, FLORIDA AS A MAIN STREET MANAGER. THE ROLE THAT CANDACE HAS, AND I REMEMBER LISTENING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN STUART AT THAT TIME. AND THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN NAMED JOEL CHANNING, AND HE PRESENTED AN IDEA. I WISH I HAD A PICTURE. I REALLY WISH I HAD A PICTURE OF THIS PROJECT. I LOOKED AND LOOKED, I SCOURED, I COULDN'T FIND IT, BUT WE DID FIND SOME DOCUMENTS AND THE CITY PUBLISHED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION, AN RFQ. THE NUMBER WAS 99.9. SEEKING QUALIFICATIONS IN PROPOSAL FORM. PROPOSALS FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CRA DISTRICT. CHANNING DISCUSSED HIS PROPOSAL WITH CITY OFFICIALS IN GROUPS INCLUDING THE CITY LAND PLANNING AGENCY, STUART HERITAGE AND STUART MAIN STREET.

THE RESPONSE WAS FAVORABLE, SO CHANNING PROCEEDED WITH A LETTER OF AGREEMENT. THERE'S A THEME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION, AND WHAT I DID IS I HIGHLIGHTED IN WHITE AREAS THAT SUPPORT WHAT THE THEME WAS. AND AS WE KNIT THIS ENTIRE STORY TOGETHER, THERE WERE SOME COMMONALITIES THAT CAME UP TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. SO I HIGHLIGHTED THEM AS WE GO THROUGH. THIS IS JUST A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, BUT ALSO A THROUGH LINE TO THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION. ONE WAS TO MOVE CITY HALL TO A LESS VALUABLE LOCATION. JOEL CHANNING AND MAYOR KRUGER AT THE TIME ENTERED INTO A LETTER OF AGREEMENT. THEN THE COMMISSIONER AND JOEL CHANNING AGREED TO ALLOW CITY HALL TO RETAIN WHERE IT STANDS IN THE CITY, AGREED TO UTILIZE BONDS TO DO A FACADE RENOVATION TO CITY HALL. THE PROJECT ENDED BASED ON COMMUNITY RESPONSE, SO HE BASICALLY DROPPED A PEBBLE IN THE POND AND SAID, I THINK I CAN PUT THESE CONDOS OVER HERE IN FLAGLER PARK. AND IT WENT PRETTY FAR. HE DID GET SOME, HE GOT SOME SUPPORT. AND THEN ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS THAT I COULD FIND, THE PROJECT BASICALLY DIED BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE PRIVATE CONDOS OVER IN THE PARK AREA, SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WITH THAT. MAX STUCKEY WROTE A LETTER AND HE SAID, LISTEN, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN IS WHAT PARKING OUR CURRENT CITY HALL AND ANNEX BUILDING ARE GROSSLY WASTING SPACE, WHICH CAN BE UTILIZED IN A MORE COST EFFICIENT WAY. THE CITY SHOULD RETAIN A FOUR STORY BUILDING. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT. BUT HE DID. THREE STORIES WOULD BE FOR PARKING AND THE FOURTH WOULD BE FOR WATERFRONT OFFICES OR RESTAURANTS. HE ALSO SUGGESTS IN THIS LETTER TO MOVE CITY HALL TO A LESS VALUABLE LOCATION AND ALSO TO DO SOME RESEARCH. IF. DOCKSIDE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS 131 FLAGLER, THAT WHITE SPACE THAT WAS IN THAT MAP IS INTERESTED IN SELLING, WE KNOW THAT IS WATERFRONT NOW, BUT IT USED TO BE MULLIGAN'S AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS SPOTO'S. IN 20 IN OH FIVE AND THE CALENDAR YEAR, CITY COMMISSION CONTINUED TO DISCUSS THE EMAIL FROM MR. STUCKEY ON OCTOBER OF NOVEMBER OR ON OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF 25, 2025, THE CITY RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED OFFER FROM CLARK CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD A HOTEL ON CITY HALL PROPERTY. THE CITY MANAGER, DAVE COLLYER, TOOK PLACE THE OFFER ON THE DECEMBER AGENDA IN DECEMBER 2005 MEETING, THE CITY COMMISSION SCHEDULED A TWO HOUR WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS 131 SOUTHWEST FLAGLER, WHICH AS WE KNOW, IS RIGHT HERE. ON JANUARY 4TH, THERE WAS A DRAFT RFP SO ALL DEVELOPERS COULD SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS. SO WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THAT.

CARLO FUMO DECIDED THAT RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIME PERIOD, JUST THEREAFTER, 2 OR 3 YEARS AFTER THAT, HE WOULD DO THE SAME THING. SO THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT HE DID, AND THE CITY SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE GO OUT AND DO AN RFP AND SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE? WE CAN'T JUST GIVE IT TO ONE VENDOR. THAT WOULD MAKE ONE SOLICITOR. THAT WOULD MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

SO THEY DID AN RFP AT THE TIME, AND THIS IS WHAT THAT RFP LOOKED LIKE. AND OF COURSE, IT

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POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE. ENSURE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FLOW. PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PUBLIC MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS. GREEN BUILDINGS. ARCHITECTURE OF BUILDING IS SIGNIFICANT. ICONIC BUILDINGS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GREEN SPACE, PRESERVING THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF OUR CITY. MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A PARKING COMPONENT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S LOGICAL AND COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO CITY HALL FUNCTIONS. SO THAT WAS THE SECOND STUDY THAT WAS DONE DURING THEM. THEN THE CITY GOT TOGETHER AND THIS WAS A CITY INITIATIVE. THEY DECIDED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION IN 2012, AND THIS WAS THEIR REDEVELOPMENT ANALYSIS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CITY SEAL THAT'S RIGHT OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

YOU CAN READ THROUGH THESE THINGS. THESE ARE BASICALLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS TO TRY AND MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF WHAT KIND OF REVENUE WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY IF ANY OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAPPEN THERE. AGAIN, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND PART OF THE SLIDE THERE, THERE'S A THEME. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE ROI OR RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS. THEY LOOKED AT A HOTEL, RETAIL SPACE, RESTAURANTS, PUBLIC AND OPEN GREEN SPACE. SO THE CITY LOOKED

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AND LET'S SEE IF WE SEE ANY SIMILARITIES TO THE REST OF THESE STUDIES PROVIDING PUBLIC RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING BOATING, IS ONE WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET. GENERATING A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT, INCLUDING JOB CREATION, ENHANCING TOURISM, INCLUDING ALL CITY DEMOGRAPHICS. DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN STUART AS A DESTINATION FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE DOWNTOWN RAIL STATION. PRESERVING OR CREATING GREEN SPACE. HAVING A NEUTRAL OR POSITIVE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND PARKING BEING FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS. HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, SUPPORTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND BEING ROOTED IN RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC FUNDS. IN 2014, THERE WAS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE AND WAS DONE BY THE CITY, AND IT WAS AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A TRAIN STATION HERE OR NOT. WE ENDED UP DRAWING UP SOME RENDERINGS.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE IN THIS WHOLE THING, IN EVERY CASE, EVERYONE REALLY ALL AGREED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF LINEAR PARK OR PUBLIC WATER SPACE THAT WOULD GIVE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE TIME WASN'T BUILT. AND SO WE WERE THINKING, I DON'T KNOW, THE TRAIN'S GOING TO MAKE A TURN.

WHY DOESN'T IT STOP HERE? AND THAT WAS THE THOUGHT THEN. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE WHOLE TRAIN SITUATION HAS GONE THROUGH EBBS AND FLOWS OF SUPPORT AND, YOU KNOW, OR NON SUPPORT THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE TIME PERIOD. THIS HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE IT WAS LOOKED UPON FAVORABLY. BUT THE IMPORTANT POINT WAS THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS SLIDE IS, IS THAT THE PUBLIC SPACE IN WATERFRONT WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED WITH EVERY IDEA THAT WAS HERE. THEN IN 2016, WE HAD MICHAEL HOUSTON, WHICH IS H J A DESIGNS, AND HE DID THREE RENDERINGS. AND ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BASICALLY THREE APPROACHES TO THIS THING. AND THEY'RE REALLY JUST DIFFERENT PHASES OF INTENSITY. I THINK THE THEMES THAT I HIGHLIGHTED IN WHITE ARE WERE, AGAIN, PARKING, MIXED USE RIVERFRONT PARK AND PARKING IS OVER THERE AND RIVERFRONT POCKET PARK AND THEY HAD A PLAZA. SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS ONE, THERE WAS A TWO STORY CITY HALL, 30 20,000FT■!S.

THEY HAD 46 SPACES FOR PARKING AND 26 FIVE OF RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MIXED USE AREA. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING OF 96 PARKING SPACES. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, IT GETS A LITTLE MORE INTENSE. 19,000, A SQUARE FOOT, 65 SPACES OF PARKING, AND 26,400 SQUARE FOOT OF MIXED USE, SAME AS RIVERFRONT PARK. ALL THOSE THINGS REMAIN THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THE 102 PARKING SPOTS. AND THEN THIS IS THE THIRD ONE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE MOST INTENSE, WHICH IS 100 SPACES OF PARKING. IT ACTUALLY HAD A PARKING GARAGE. AND I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, YOU CAN NEVER DO THIS NOW BECAUSE OF HUDSON'S BEING DOWN THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THE BRIDGE, THE THOUGHT WAS, IS THAT YOU COULD PUT THE PARKING GARAGE SORT OF UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE ITSELF, AND THAT WOULD SERVE AS A PARKING GARAGE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE IT. IN EVERY ONE OF THESE PLANS, THOUGH, IT SHOWS A LINEAR PARK, OBVIOUSLY, BY THE WATERFRONT THAT ALLOWS PUBLIC ACCESS AND THEN EXTENDS DOWNTOWN ALONG OSCEOLA IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE RETAIL OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING HERE IS THAT DOWNTOWN IS FAIRLY TIGHT. WE HAVE ABOUT 3 OR 4 BLOCKS.

AND SO WITH THIS, IT WOULD ALLOW THIS TO EXTEND A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE COMMERCE. THEN IN 2018 AND VICE MAYOR REED, I LISTENED TO MIKE'S PRESENTATION AND I REMEMBER YOU ASKED FOR SOMEBODY ASKED, DOES THIS INCLUDE THE MCCARTHY PLAN? WELL, THIS ONE DOES INCLUDE THE MCCARTHY PLAN. AGAIN, THE KEY WORDS ON MIKE'S DESIGN HERE WAS

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THAT'S NOT 26. IT'S 206. SORRY. EXCUSE ME, 2006. THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE HAD, THERE'S 12 WORKSHOPS. THE ONE THAT STUART MAIN STREET IS GOING TO PRESENT TONIGHT, AND ALL THE STATISTICS WILL MAKE LUCKY NUMBER 13. SO WE HAVE REALLY KIND OF STUDIED THIS THING. AND IF I WERE TO SUMMARIZE THIS BASED UPON EVERYTHING I'VE READ IN THAT BOOK AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE LISTENED TO FROM PAST MEETINGS, IT COMES DOWN TO THIS. EXTEND DOWNTOWN, ADD PARKING, PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONLY PRIVATE ROI TO THE CITY. IN 20 YEARS, 27 YEARS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS. SO WITH THAT, I'VE GOT THE SLIDE SHOW STILL BACK UP HERE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OR WE COULD WAIT TILL THE END. I'M GOING TO EVENTUALLY TURN THIS OVER TO CANDICE, WHO CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED WITH MAIN STREET QUESTIONS. JIM. I SEE THAT, MR. MCCRYSTAL. OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO PUBLIC.

CANDICE, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION FIRST. SHE IS. YES. OKAY. SO, FRANK. MR. MCCRYSTAL HAS A DIRECT QUESTION ABOUT. YES. YOU GOT TO GET ON THE MIC, SIR. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 2005, GET UP ON THE MIC, MR. MCCRYSTAL. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, I KNOW I GOT YOU. I WAS I WAS LISTENING ALONG AS WELL AS I COULD. WE GO BACK TO 2005 REFERENDUM. WHAT WAS THE WORDING OF IT AND WHAT DID THE CITIZENS DECIDE IN 2005? THAT WAS THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF

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THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME READ THIS, AREN'T YOU? SURE. THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ME DO THIS. I WON'T PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN MAKE IT BIGGER. OH. THAT'S BETTER. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA. CERTIFYING AND CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE CANVASING BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE CITY OF STUART. CHAPTER AMENDMENT BALLOT QUESTION ON THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD NOVEMBER 7TH, 2006, PROVIDING FOR CERTIFICATION IN THE APPROVED CHARTER AMENDMENT. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SEE LEE. I CAN DO IT TOO. WHOOPS. WHEREAS, IN 2006, GENERAL ELECTIONS OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA INCLUDE ONE BALLOT QUESTION. TO WIT, SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA BE AMENDED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING PROVISION? AND THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR RIGHT HERE. RIGHT THERE WE GO. THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT CONVEY OR LEASE MORE THAN TEN YEARS, INCLUDING OPTIONS TO RENEW ANY INTEREST IN REAL PROPERTY OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY THE CITY. IF OR ANY CONTIGUOUS PARCEL HAS FRONTAGE ON THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER OR ON A TIDAL CREEK, UNLESS PROPOSED CONVEYANCE OR LEASE IS FIRST APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC REFERENDUM, INCLUDING THE PROCEDURAL STARTED IN CHARTER SECTION 9.04 FOR VACATING PUBLIC STREETS, PROVIDING WATER ACCESS. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING, WHAT PROPERTIES DOES THE CITY HAVE THAT HAVE DONE THIS AND RESULTS? THE RESULTS WERE RIGHT HERE ON THIS SLIDE 3505 TO 7. THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RESULTS. IT WAS 3506 YEAS AND 772 KNOWS. SO RIGHT. SO IN SIMPLE TERMS A HUGE MAJORITY SAID WHAT THAT THEY VOTED FOR HAVING A REFERENDUM OF DEVELOPING ANYTHING THAT WAS CONTIGUOUS TO THE WATERFRONT OR A TITLE PROPERTY. SO THEY VOTED TO MOVE CITY HALL. NO, NO, THIS WAS JUST TO THIS WAS JUST TO DEVELOP ANYTHING ON ALONG THE WATERFRONT. CITY HALL WAS NEVER VOTED ON. IT WASN'T ABOUT MOVING CITY HALL. FRANK. IN ESSENCE, ANY PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY ALONG THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER OR ON ANY OTHER TITLE, THERE COULD BE SOME FRASER CREEK, POPPLETON CREEK, SOME OF THE OTHER CREEKS AS WELL.

ANYTHING OWNED BY THE CITY THE CITY COULD CONVEY WITHOUT GOING TO REFERENDUM, I.E. A VOTE FROM THE PUBLIC ELECTORS. IF IT'S. IF THE LEASE WAS FOR TEN YEARS OR MORE, OR YOU'RE ACTUALLY SELLING THE PROPERTY. SO YOU COULD. WHAT CITY COULD LEASE A PROPERTY ALONG THE WATER FOR FIVE YEARS WITHOUT GOING OUT TO THE ELECTORATE FOR A VOTE? BUT IF IT GOES TEN YEARS OR LONGER, THE POPULATION HAS GOT TO VOTE FOR IT. OR IF YOU SELL IT. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, WHAT DID WE WHEN WHEN IS THIS HAPPENED? IT HAPPENED WITH THE WATERFRONT. IT HAPPENED AFTER THE PELICAN BECAUSE THE PELICAN DIDN'T WASN'T UNDER THIS LAW. BUT IT DID HAPPEN WITH HUDSON'S.

SO THOSE TWO EXAMPLES SHOW THAT WE HAD A REFERENDUM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE TWO PROPERTIES. THERE'S PROBABLY OTHERS, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES IN THIS DISTRICT, THE FEED STORE, NO FEES, I MEAN. WHATEVER. WE JUST ON THE ANCHORAGE FEED STORE. OH YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THE FEED STORE WAS FEED STORE. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. IF WE'RE THINKING THAT WAS SORT OF GRANDFATHERED IN. BUT I DO REMEMBER THERE WAS A REFERENDUM FOR THAT TOO. AND ALL OF THOSE PASSED BY THE WAY. SO. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I GOT THE CUE FROM THE MAYOR. SO I'M GOING TO DIVE RIGHT IN.

I'M CANDICE CALLAHAN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR STEWART MAIN STREET, YOUR PROUD PARTNER FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS AND MAKING OUR DOWNTOWN GREAT. SO I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER HOW OR WHY WE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT I'M HAPPY THAT WE DID. I THINK IT WAS YOURS, AND YOU PROBABLY HEARD TOOK SOME INFORMATION FROM OUR BOARD MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE ATTENDED AND HEARING SOME CONVERSATIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAD AS AN ORGANIZATION. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY WITH THIS. SO AS JIM HAD SHARED, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LONG TIME. I EVEN MET WITH JOAN JEFFERSON RECENTLY, NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND

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KNOW WHAT YOU. SET UP THERE. CANDACE. YEAH, NO, WE GOT AN EXTRA SORRY. THANKS, CHAIR. I LIKE THESE THOUGH. I NEED TO GET SOME FOR FLAGLER CENTER. ALL RIGHT. SO COMMUNITY VISION PLAN STEPS. WE OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST STEP IS TO DO A SURVEY RIGHT. GET THAT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK GIVING THEM SOME GENERAL IDEAS. THAT'S WHY OUR SURVEY WAS MULTIPLE CHOICE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS FINDINGS FROM PAST WORKSHOPS AND SURVEYS AND ALL OF THAT. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE A WORKSHOP, AND THE THIRD BEING A FULL ON CHARRETTE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY WORKING ON SKETCHES AND DESIGN CONCEPTS. THE FOURTH WOULD BE AN RFP, AND THEN THE FIFTH STEP WOULD BE THE SELECTION PROCESS OF WHAT CONCEPT WE GO WITH. NOW I SAY WE, BUT THIS ALL COMES FROM THE COMMISSION AND WHAT THEY'RE THERE AND STAFF AS TO WHAT THEIR VISION IS, SO LONG AS IT'S A SHARED VISION, OF COURSE. SO THE FIRST THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WE ASKED EVERYONE TO DESCRIBE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? SO WE'RE STILL FINDING THE SAME INFORMATION. PEOPLE STILL CONSIDER IT CHARMING. THEY STILL CONSIDER IT QUAINT.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE WALKABLE. THEY STILL THINK OUR CITY IS WALKABLE, WHICH IS A GREAT FEATURE. VIBRANT. IT'S ALL THE THINGS. IS IT SUCCESSFUL? YES. IS IT BUSY? YES. SO TO ME, THAT SCREAMS SUCCESS. SO YOU'RE WELCOME. RESPONSES FROM THE RESIDENTS ARE THE RESPONSES THAT WE DID GET. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT 65% OF THEM WERE ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 24% OF OUR RESULTS WERE FROM BUSINESS OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE DOWNTOWN, AND THEN 32% WERE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THEN COLLECTIVELY, 40% OF THAT.

OF THE RESULTS, 40% OF HOW SHOULD I WORD THIS, 40% SPEND AT LEAST HALF OF THEIR WEEK IN DOWNTOWN AT SOME POINT. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE DOWNTOWN IS STILL VITAL IN THE LIFESTYLE OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. WHAT'S THE MOST

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LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO KNOW WHY THEY COME TO THE DOWNTOWN. AND OF COURSE IT'S FOR DINING, SHOPPING, ENTERTAINMENT, SOCIALIZATION, CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, EVENTS. I MEAN, THE DOWNTOWN IS THE HUB FOR SHARED, YOU KNOW, MEMORIES, ECONOMIC VITALITY. THE NEXT. YEAH. OH, WAS YOUR GOVERNMENT USE INCLUDED IN THAT OR WAS IT, WAS IT LIKE MAINTAINED FOR ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE PEOPLE COME HERE TO PAY THEIR BILLS RIGHT NOW AT THE CURRENT PLACE? WAS THERE AN OPTION THERE FOR GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES, CIVIC ACTIVITIES? YEAH. SO BACK IN ONE OF THE EARLIER QUESTIONS WE DID ASK, WE COMBINED IT TO A PUBLIC SLASH CIVIC USE. SO AGAIN, TAKING ALL THIS OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND FINDINGS THAT WOULD BE UP TO STAFF AND THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER A LOT OF THESE WANTS. RIGHT? SO BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING DESIGN CONCEPTS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WE TALKED ABOUT WHY THEY COME TO DOWNTOWN. WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT BUSINESSES DO YOU WANT MORE OF? SO THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS A MORE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THEY WANT MORE SHOPS, WHICH IS INTERESTING TO ME. THEY ALSO WANT MORE BUSINESSES

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THEY WANT CONNECTIVITY. SO BETWEEN THE WATER AND THE DISTRICT ITSELF, THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE AND MORE, CREATE MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. THEY STILL WANT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE CRA AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, NUMBER ONE IS ALWAYS TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT OUR LITTLE TOWN HERE. KEEP IT SMALL, RIGHT. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALSO 51%, WHICH I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE, BUT 51% ACTUALLY SAID THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THE CITY IF THE CITY WAS GOING AFTER SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE OF A TO, TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY, A MORE REVENUE DRIVEN SOURCE, THEN AS LONG AS THERE WAS STILL ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS STILL ACCESSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS THE WATERFRONT AND ENJOY ALL OF THAT, THEN THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT. SO IT'S EITHER SOUNDS LIKE IT'S EITHER PUBLIC USE SPACE OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, MAKING MONEY FOR THE CITY, THAT IT'S STILL ACCESSIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS STILL PROVES ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, STILL PROVES THAT DOWNTOWN IS STILL IMPORTANT, AND THERE IS A STRONG DESIRE FOR IT TO CONTINUE TO SEE REINVESTMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE DISTRICT, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL ALWAYS WORK TO DO AS YOU GOOD PEOPLE ALWAYS KNOW. SO THE NEXT STEPS, I MEAN, I'M AT YOUR MERCY. SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD, I PERSONALLY THINK WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SURVEY THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK WE YIELDED ENOUGH RESULTS THAT I WANT TO SEE GIVEN OUR INCREASED IN POPULATION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO TOUCH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. BUT AGAIN, I'M AT YOUR MERCY. DID YOU MENTION THAT THERE WAS 200 RESPONSES OR HOW MANY? HOW MANY? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T KNOW I GAVE A BASIS OF PERCENTAGE OF RESPONSES TO EACH QUESTION. QUESTIONS FOR CANDACE. HOW MUCH WAS I SORRY I HAD TO LEAVE THE ROOM FOR A MINUTE. HOW MUCH WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THAT SURVEY? 200 RESPONDED, 200? 200 RESPONDED. OKAY. AND THAT WAS IN ABOUT A 30 DAY PERIOD. DID YOU MAKE A SPECIFIC EFFORT WITH THE. DO WE STILL HAVE THE DBA? DID YOU MAKE A SPECIFIC EFFORT WITH THEM OR ANY. YEAH, WE WALKED AROUND AS A COMMITTEE AND GAVE THE SURVEY INDIVIDUALLY TO EACH. THE MERCHANT. THE CITY'S BEEN PUSHING IT TOO. WE JUST NEED. I SHARED IT WITH OUR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF MARTIN COUNTY. I SHARED IT WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY AND STUART CHAMBER. I SHARED IT WITH TOURISM DEPARTMENT, THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL, BASICALLY ALL OF OUR ECONOMIC. I ALSO SHARED IT WITH MARTIN ARTS SO THAT. SO THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH THEIR NETWORKS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AGAIN, ANOTHER ROUND. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE HAVE OUR EVENT DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY OF STUART THAT TAKES APPLICATIONS OF PEOPLE USING CITY FACILITIES. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO CAPTURE THOSE EMAILS, PEOPLE WHO'VE USED OUR FACILITIES IN THE PAST THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS AND SEE IF WE CAN SURVEY THOSE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'VE HAD EVENTS AT YOUR PLACE AT THE FLAGLER CENTER OR SOMEPLACE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT THEY'VE SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE SOME PEOPLE. IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WOULD BE UNDER MY UMBRELLA AND I'M HAPPY TO.

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ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN, I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. I THINK YOU CAPTURED THE SENTIMENT OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO. YOU KNOW, WE WILL ALL HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT IT COULD BE, BUT GENERALLY THE MAIN ISSUE SEEMS TO BE HAVING IT STAY GREEN SPACE AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY. MY, MY SLIGHTLY CONTRARIAN VIEW AT THIS POINT IS ACTUALLY ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT FRANK HAS MENTIONED IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CITY HALL RENOVATED, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CONTRARIAN. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU DO THAT LOGISTICALLY, BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S CHEAP, BUT HAVING WELLS AVAILABLE FOR THE REST OF STAFF AND THEN HAVING THIS FACILITY STAY PUBLIC USE FOR MEETINGS FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING TO DEVELOPMENT, GETTING YOUR PERMITS, HAVING THE COMMISSION HERE, HAVING YOUR ATTORNEYS HERE, HAVING YOUR MOST ENGAGED WITH PEOPLE, I THINK OFFERS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY IN THE SENTIMENT OF MOVING CITY HALL TO A LESS VALUABLE SPACE. THAT'S KIND OF THE OPPOSITE. I THINK I GET THE THE MINDSET OF RAISING ROI AND REVENUE FOR THE CITY, BUT YOU SHOULD WANT YOUR YOUR SPACE THAT ALL OF US OWN TO BE THE MOST VALUABLE SPACE. YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING BY HAVING THAT BE THE CASE IS MY OPINION. AND YOU STILL HAVE WELLS FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BEHIND THE SCENES PEOPLE WHO MAKE ALL THE MAGIC HAPPEN AT THE CITY. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING RENOVATED WITH BEAUTIFUL ROOF LINES. OLD FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, MADE NEW AND LET THE PUBLIC CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS VERY VALUABLE PROPERTY. IN TERMS OF LIKE THE ANNEX, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE A GOOD CASE FOR DOING AWAY WITH THE ANNEX. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH EXTENDING DOWNTOWN OR SHOPS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD PROBABLY BE AT WELLS AND YOU CONSOLIDATE EVERYBODY TO THAT SPOT. IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THAT MIXED USE AND DEVELOPMENT,

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I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT. AND THERE'S SOME THERE'S WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND APPEASING EVERYONE. AND SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AS A DESIGN COMMITTEE, I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE GOT FROM THOSE SURVEYS AND THE 2020 PLUS YEARS OF DATA THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED.

SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK HONESTLY, THE NEXT STEP, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO RUN THE SURVEY FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND ME TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE THE GROUPS THAT COMMISSIONER CLARK HAD SUGGESTED AND ALSO DO SOME PAID ADVERTISING TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO MEET THE MASSES FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT I THINK THE NEXT STEP WE NEED TO START WORKING ON PLANNING IS A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THESE IDEAS ORGANIC. I THINK IT CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MYOPIC IF IT STARTS BEING ALL CHAMBER PEOPLE OR BDB PEOPLE. WE KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND AS LONG AS IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY INTERFACE WITH AND USE DOWNTOWN GENERALLY AS WELL, I WELL REMEMBER 65% OF THE SURVEY, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN THE SURVEY. THAT'S WHY I LIKE IT SO FAR. IT'S NOT A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT I THINK IT'S 65, RIGHT? 65% ARE THE RESIDENTS. SO AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS THE THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE CITY THAT HAD OPINIONS ABOUT IT. SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR TWO BIG GROUPS, YOUR RESIDENTS BEING OBVIOUSLY NUMBER ONE. SO I THINK WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THIS BOARD BEGINNING TO SOLIDIFY SOME SENSE OF, OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO IN SO THAT WE CAN EVEN HAVE WORKSHOPS FOR PEOPLE TO THROW IDEAS AT. AND SO POTENTIALLY. IF IT'S A PLEASURE OF THE BOARD HAVING A FUTURE D AND D ON THIS TOPIC, WERE YOU ALSO PRESENT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? SURE. SO WE CAN KEEP THIS GOING? YEAH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. YOU ONLY MENTIONED THE THE TWO STORIES OF PARKING. WHAT WAS THE THINKING BEHIND THAT? JUST TO KEEP IT QUAINT OR WOULD IT ACCOMMODATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE PARKING DOWN DOWNTOWN, PARKING OR THE ACTUAL SHOPS YOU MENTIONED? YEAH, YEAH. SO, SO MY TWO STORY HEIGHT LIMIT WAS SO IT WASN'T OVERDEVELOPED IN MY OPINION, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN DO FOUR STORY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU SHOULD. I COULD HAVE DONE A TWO STORY HOUSE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BLOCK THE SUN FROM MY NEIGHBOR. SO I DON'T KNOW. I'M UP HERE FOR A REASON FOR SMALL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS MY REASONING. AND I THINK IT JUST I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE IS PROPOSED. I MEAN, I THINK IT'LL DEPEND ON WHAT THAT SPACE ALLOWS TO BE HONEST. SO BUT IDEALLY, YES, KEEPING IT SMALL AND QUAINT IS IDEAL, RIGHT? COMMENTS. MY COMMENT IS, HAVING COME FROM A BIG CITY THAT A

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AND THEIR GARAGES, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR GARAGES BECAUSE THEY BLEND WITH THE FACADES OF THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE. MURALS HELP A LOT TOO. BUT AS A BOARD, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE GOVERNING BODY. IF YOU HAVE THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT SAYS, WE'RE NOT GOING OVER TWO STOREYS AND YOU FIND THAT APPROPRIATE PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT BUILD. BUT I'M NOT A BUILDER, SO I'M JUST GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE. BOARD MEMBER CLARK. THANK YOU. YES. KANDERSON MR. KUROWSKI, YOU DIDN'T MENTION MAYBE YOU DID, JIM, BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT THE STATUS OF FLAGLER CENTER IN TERMS OF A A HISTORIC BUILDING WITH THE USO AND ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED THERE. AND TECHNICALLY REMOVING THE FLAGLER CENTER ITSELF AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT SPOT. WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS THE. WE HAVE A HISTORY BEHIND THE FLAGLER CENTER. WE HAVE A HISTORY BEHIND THE THREE BUILDINGS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE THAT WE'VE CREATED, LIKE A LITTLE HISTORIC YESTERYEAR VILLAGE. AND WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE SAY CERTAIN WORDS. SO WE KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, DOING ANYTHING WITH IT TILL YOU BROUGHT IT UP. WELL, SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING GETTING RID OF ME OFF OF FLAGLER. NO. THE ANNEX. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. YOU KNOW, HE SAID HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ANNEX HE WANTS. HE WANTS TO GET RID OF MY OFFICE IN THE FLAGLER. I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW WITH THE RIVER. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. WRONG BUILDING. YEAH. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT FLAGLER CENTER TODAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. WELL, NO, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY YOU KEPT REFERRING. AND I THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR HELPING CLARIFY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE WALKING DOWN THERE TOWARDS THE FLAGLER. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. SO I THINK THIS WAS REALLY TIMELY, ESPECIALLY WITH MIKE HERE SO HE CAN GET CAUGHT UP. SO THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THAT JIM. ALL THAT HISTORY. THANK YOU JIM. AND LET'S DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO OUR INTERIM MANAGER. SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION A MONTH YOU WANT HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL. AND THAT'S UP TO YOU FINE FOLKS. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THIS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY CONSULTANTS IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KEEP IT IN-HOUSE AT SOME POINT LATER DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A VISION SOLIDIFY, SENDING IT OUT THERE FOR CONSULTANTS TO GUIDE THE CONSULTANT ON WHAT? YEAH, RIGHT. OKAY. SO CANDICE, YOU AGREE WITH. YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

WE CAN ALL TAKE TONIGHT AND SOME OF THIS HISTORY AND MARINATE IN IT. YOU'LL COME BACK WITH SOME MORE RESULTS IN A MONTH. WE'LL HAVE SOME NEW HELP THAT CAN HELP ORGANIZE AND HERD CATS. AND THIS BOOK WILL BE IN FOR YOUR REFERENCE. FOR MORE DETAIL, WE'LL HAVE IT IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. IT'S A WONDERFUL COLLECTION OF GOOD JOB, JIM. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COPY OF THAT BOOK FROM HELEN MCBRIDE. MAYBE CANDICE, KEEP IN TOUCH WITH INTERIM MANAGER AND OR MIKE WITH HOW YOUR RESULTS ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PRESENT AS WELL.

SURE. MAKE IT HAPPEN. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GO, TEAM. YES, FRANK. THANK YOU.

EVERYTHING. I THINK FRANK HAD A COMMENT. AND IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, TYPICALLY WE DON'T DO IT WITH DISCUSSION. BUT IF ANYBODY DID. YEAH. IF YOU JUST CLARIFY WHEN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PERCENTAGES OF THE RESULTS AND THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO, WHO RESPONDED, DID YOU SAY STUART RESIDENCE OVER ALL? I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY DOWNTOWN RESIDENCE. WHICH, WHICH WHICH WAS IT? THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR QUESTION AND CLARIFICATION. SO RESPONSES THE TOTAL RESPONSES 65% WERE STUART RESIDENTS AND 24% WERE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS OR IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR EMPLOYEES. THEY KIND OF FELL IN THE SAME

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