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          MEETING OF THE STUART CITY COMMISSION ON JUNE 22ND, 2026 AT 5:30 P.M. TO ORDER. MARY, IF WE COULD DO THE ROLL CALL. MAYOR REED HERE. MR. CLARK HERE, COMMISSIONER HERE, MR. RICH HERE. AND THEN FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION FROM PASTOR JAMES HARP FROM STUART ALLIANCE CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THANK YOU. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU. 
          THIS DAY, LORD. WE RECOGNIZE FATHER'S DAY AS MANY OF US WERE CELEBRATED AND WE CELEBRATED OUR FATHERS. BUT LORD, TODAY WE RECOGNIZE YOU AS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. THANK YOU FOR THAT, GOD. 
          IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY AND TO PRAY AND TO LOOK TO YOU, GOD, FOR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AND WISDOM FOR THESE FOLKS THAT ARE LEADING US IN OUR CITY. THE APOSTLE PAUL WRITES IN FIRST TIMOTHY CHAPTER TWO. HE SAYS, FIRST OF ALL, THEN, I URGE THAT SUPPLICATIONS, PRAYERS, AND INTERCESSION AND THANKSGIVING BE MADE FOR ALL PEOPLE, FOR KINGS AND ALL WHO ARE IN HIGH POSITIONS, THAT WE MAY LEAD A PEACEFUL AND QUIET LIFE, GODLY AND DIGNIFIED IN EVERY WAY. THIS IS GOOD, AND IT IS PLEASING IN THE SIGHT OF GOD OUR FATHER. LORD, IT TEACHES ME THAT WE ARE TO CONTINUALLY PRAY AND INTERCEDE AND AND BRING SUPPLICATIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP OVER US, IN OUR, IN OUR CITY, OUR COUNTY, OUR STATE, OUR NATION. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THESE THAT YOU HAVE RAISED UP TO BE LEADERS FOR US. BUT GOD, I PRAY FOR THEM TODAY AS I PRAY. I PRAY FOR PROTECTION AND WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. I PRAY FOR THEIR FAMILIES. ASK GOD THAT YOU SURROUND THEM WITH YOUR BLESSING, LORD, THAT YOUR BLESSING WOULD BE UPON THE CITY OF STEWARD. LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE, BEING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          IN ORDER TO PRAY, CONTINUE TO GUIDE AND DIRECT THAT ALL WOULD GO WELL FOR US. LORD, GIVE WISDOM FOR DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. GIVE WISDOM TO THE VOICES THAT EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND AND THOUGHTS. TONIGHT GOD MAY BE GLORIFIED IN OUR LIVES. I PRAY TONIGHT IN JESUS NAME. 
          AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS ]
COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER RIDGE. MY COMMENT IS ONLY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL AT ONE OF STEWART'S FAVORITE ACTIVITIES, THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE. PLEASE COME OUT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RIDGE. COMMISSIONER. YES. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE, AS I ALWAYS DO, FOR ATTENDING THIS COMMISSION MEETING, AS WELL AS A SHOUT OUT TO THOSE WHO ATTEND ONLINE. YOUR PARTICIPATION IS SO IMPORTANT AND MUCH APPRECIATED. RIGHT NOW I WANT TO ADDRESS AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AT OUR LAST MEETING. A COMMISSIONER ADMONISHED A CITY EMPLOYEE AND ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT AT A PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE AGENDA AND THE BACKUP FOR A WEEK PRIOR TO THAT JUNE 8TH MEETING. AT ANY POINT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, THIS COMMISSIONER COULD HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE ISSUES AND REVIEW THE INFORMATION. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS COMMISSIONER DECIDED TO ADDRESS A CITY EMPLOYEE AT A PUBLIC MEETING. NOT ONLY IS IT UNACCEPTABLE, IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE AND UNPROFESSIONAL. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER CITY EMPLOYEES. CITY EMPLOYEES REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER. IF A COMMISSIONER HAS AN ISSUE WITH A CITY EMPLOYEE OR A DEPARTMENT, THERE IS A PROCESS TO FOLLOW. THEY ARE TO REACH OUT PRIVATELY TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE. IT WAS ALSO DISRESPECTFUL TO THE POSITION OF THE CITY MANAGER. APOLOGIES ARE DUE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS COMMISSIONER IN QUESTION WILL ADDRESS THIS ACCORDINGLY. ON AN UPBEAT NOTE, AS COMMISSIONER RICH SAID, 4TH OF JULY COMING UP AND PLEASE EVERYONE, I WANT TO SAY THE CITIZENS OF STEWART HAVE ALWAYS HAD A HUGE TURNOUT FOR THE 4TH OF JULY GOLF CART PARADE. PLUS, EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FESTIVITIES FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY AT FLAGLER PARK, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS YEAR IS NO DIFFERENT. AS WE CELEBRATE AND THANK OUR VETERANS FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CLARK. THANK YOU. AS WE REGARD OUR COUNTRY AND WE 
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LOOK TOWARDS FREEDOM. FREEDOM IS NOT JUST ON THE 4TH OF JULY, BUT DURING THIS MONTH. WE'VE ALSO CELEBRATED EMANCIPATION DAY IN FLORIDA WAS IN MAY AND THEN JUNETEENTH, WHICH IS THE DAY WHEN THOSE WHO ARE ENSLAVED IN TEXAS, THE LAST PEOPLE TO HEAR THAT THERE WAS FREEDOM. 
          AND THAT TRULY IS THE BEGINNING OF WHAT CELEBRATION OF FREEDOM IS. AND IT GOES ON INTO THE JULY 4TH SEASON. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND TO PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE FOR THE JUNETEENTH IN THE CITY OF STEWART, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS OF EAST STEWART, LED BY MISS DOOLEY, HAD A VERY INSPIRING PROGRAM AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THE MAYOR WAS THERE AND READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT, AND IT WAS REALLY, TRULY INSPIRING TO SEE THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY DID, AND THEIR PERFORMANCES WERE JUST I MEAN, THEY'RE BETTER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING FOR SOME TITLE, WHETHER IT'S MISS UNIVERSE OR THE BEST OF A STUDENT WHO WAS IN AT TRYING TO GET INTO THE METROPOLITAN OPERA OR SOMETHING, THEY WERE JUST ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING. YOUNG PEOPLE WHO PERFORMED THERE. AND SO THIS IS A CHANCE FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT JUST THOSE AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FROM THE COUNTY TO REALLY SHOW THAT THEY ARE SHINING STARS AND THAT THEY'RE COMING UP. AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING. AND I'M GLAD FOR THE SUPPORT THAT THE CITY OF STEWART PUT INTO ENSURING THAT WE DO HAVE THAT TYPE OF CELEBRATION FOR JUNETEENTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. I WANTED TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD FOR TWO D AND D ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, AND ONE OF THEM BEING THE BOAT SHOW WITH A LONG TERM LEASE, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS TO STILL PUSH FOR EMAILS TO BE ONLINE FOR TRANSPARENCY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. I'M FOR BOTH OF THOSE. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER RICH. SURE. IS THAT FOR TODAY OR FOR ANOTHER DAY? IT WOULD BE FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE'RE GETTING A CONSENSUS NOW FOR THE FUTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND I DID WANT TO READ AN EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED VERBATIM. THERE WAS NOT SO NICE LANGUAGE IN IT, BUT I WON'T READ IT WORD FOR WORD JUST BECAUSE THE CHILDREN THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, THIS EMAIL I RECEIVED ON JUNE 11TH, 2026, IT SAYS, DEAR COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE 100% AGAINST BACKYARD CHICKENS IN THE CITY OF STEWART. WE MAY NOT INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, BUT WILL CERTAINLY INCREASE THE DENSITY OF RATS, POSSUMS, RACCOONS, SNAKES, MITES AND FLIES. NICE. BY THE WAY, A FEW JOINT MEETINGS AGO, ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, PLUS THE SCHOOL. WE HAD TO SIT FOR AN HOUR LISTENING TO HOW DOG POOP NOT PICKED UP CONTAMINATED THE LAGOON. EVERY COMMISSIONER RUNS ON CLEANING UP THE RIVER AND THEN THEY WOULD GO AND ALLOW THIS. IT'S BAD FOR PROPERTY VALUES. THEY WILL BE RUNNING AROUND LOOSE THE STREETS OF STEWART BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. MY RESPONSE BACK WAS, THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. I KNOW MERRITT HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE CHICKENS AND DIDN'T CLAIM THE CHICKENS WOULD CONTAMINATE OUR WATERWAYS. THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED BACK SHAUN, I SENT THIS EMAIL TO YOU, NOT SOMEONE WHO IS RUNNING. HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THAT YOU KNOW HOW SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD VOTE ON THIS MATTER? YOU'RE DOING A HORRIBLE JOB AS A CITY COMMISSIONER. I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT THAT I SHOWED A HOUSE TO A POTENTIAL BUYER, AND WE COULD HEAR THE CHICKENS NEXT DOOR, SO MY BUYER PASSED ON THE HOUSE. I SEE NOW THAT EXACT HOUSE IS BACK ON THE MARKET. I WOULD NEVER BE SO BOLD AS TO SAY IT'S BECAUSE THE NEW OWNER DIDN'T LIKE BEING BESIDE A NASTY HOUSE OF CHICKENS, BUT I CAN GUESS IT WASN'T IDEAL. THAT SAID, YOU'RE LACKING CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THE MARTIN COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL WON'T HELP CONTROL THIS ISSUE. WHEN THE CHICKENS ARE ROAMING THE STREETS OF STEWART, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY APPROVING THIS. THIS JUST BURDENS THE CITY EVEN MORE. I HAVE INCLUDED A VIDEO THAT CHRIS COLLINS SENT ME. HE KNOWS THAT CHICKENS ARE ROAMING THE STREETS ALREADY AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. IF WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VOTE, PLEASE BE PROFESSIONAL AND KNOW THIS IS ALREADY AN ISSUE AND YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR AGGRAVATING ME. YOU HAVE ONLY MOTIVATED ME TO WORK AGAINST YOU IN YOUR NEXT ELECTION. CHRIS COLLINS PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BEFORE HE LEFT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING LIKE HIS LITTLE BEE BY VOTING FOR THIS. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. IF YOU THINK HE WOULD FALL ON A SWORD FOR YOU, I BELIEVE YOU'RE 
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SORELY MISTAKEN. MY RESPONSE BACK. I DID NOT SUGGEST OR IMPLY HOW ANYONE WOULD VOTE ON THIS MATTER, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CONCLUSION CAME FROM. IF YOU REVIEW MY PREVIOUS EMAIL, I STATED AND I QUOTE. THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. I KNOW MERRITT HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE CHICKENS AND DID NOT CLAIM THEY WOULD CONTAMINATE OUR WATERWAYS. I SPOKE WITH MERRITT AFTER THE MEETING ON JUNE 8TH, 2026, AND THAT WAS HIS RESPONSE. THE VOTE ULTIMATELY PASSED 3 TO 1, WITH COMMISSIONER RICH DISSENTING. DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS FOR THE LISTING AND THE BUYERS CONTACT INFORMATION? IF SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT AS WELL AND PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          I HAVE REMAINED PROFESSIONAL IN MY COMMUNICATIONS, WHETHER BY EMAIL OR IN PERSON. GIVEN THAT I FOUND YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF ME AS SOMEONE'S LITTLE BE INAPPROPRIATE AND UNPROFESSIONAL. THAT IS NOT LANGUAGE I USE IN A PROFESSIONAL SETTING. I AM SORRY THAT MY RESPONSE TO YOUR INITIAL EMAIL UPSET YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER ]
HOPE THE REST OF YOUR DAY GOES WELL. COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT IN 2023, HOUSE BILL 657 SIGNED INTO LAW ABOUT THE USE OF SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, A SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY PROGRAM. AND I KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC HAS HEARD ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR, IN 2025, MOST RECENTLY, STAFF AND I AND COMMISSIONER RICH, WE WERE BRIEFED ON THIS PROGRAM BY ONE OF THE PROPRIETORS WORKING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I WOULD ONCE AGAIN LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMEONE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT IS TRAFFIC CALMING. IT IS SCHOOL ZONE ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ISSUE, AND IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE LAW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP US WITH THIS PROBLEM. SO I WILL BE IN A FUTURE MEETING, SCHEDULING A BRIEFING FOR US TO LOOK LOOK AT THESE STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY ARE REMARKABLE STATISTICS WITH THIS PROGRAM AND SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO AS A COMMUNITY. SO I'LL BE BRINGING THAT AT A FURTHER COMMISSION MEETING, PROBABLY WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS. AND ON A GREAT NOTE, WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S GOOD IS OUR UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAVING A COUPLE. FANTASTIC CERTIFICATION EXAM GRADUATES, ONE BEING MIKE MARSHALL. CONGRATULATIONS ON MIKE MARSHALL FOR PASSING THE FLORIDA CLASS B WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATING CERTIFICATE EXAM, A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT. AND IT JUST SHOWS THE PROFESSIONALISM EVERY DAY THAT IS DISPLAYED. IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE, FOLKS, OF WHAT GOES ON HERE EACH AND EVERY DAY. WE HAVE FOLKS WORKING REALLY HARD AND ACHIEVING SUCH CERTIFICATIONS. SO MIKE MARSHALL, A SHOUT OUT TO MIKE FOR PASSING THAT EXAM. AND THEN AS WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE CLASS A WATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR EXAMINATION TO STEVEN BULLETIN. AND AGAIN, A PROFESSIONAL MILESTONE NUMBER ONE FOR THIS EMPLOYEE, BUT ADDS SO MUCH VALUE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND I COMMEND OUR DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN, FOR FOSTERING THIS GROWTH. AND BASICALLY GROWING THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS. AND SO WE'RE A SHOUT OUT TO BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND MORE TO COME. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU HAD A COMMENT. YES. I WANTED TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER AND AND THE COMMISSION, IF YOU DO BRING THAT SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY CAMERA TYPE DEAL, MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST DO IT AS A AS A PRESENTATION TO US AT A MEETING SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THEIR, WHERE THEY'RE THINKING, WHAT, WHERE THESE THINGS WOULD GO. AND MAYBE THEY'RE IN CERTAIN ZONES AND LOCATIONS, OR WOULD THEY BE ALONG THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS OR I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS. AND IF AGAIN, IF IT ENDS UP IN TICKETING OR JUST A WARNING OR WHAT? YES, COMMISSIONER, I WILL. 
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WHAT I PROPOSE IS THAT I WOULD BRING THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO TO THE COMMISSION, TO THE PUBLIC AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, WHERE YOU WILL GET TO SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND OTHER LOCALITIES AND THE RESULTS OF THAT PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT'S A BIT SOPHISTICATED AT THIS POINT. 
          IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THERE'S THERE OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL VENDORS THAT WE WOULD BRING IN, AND THEY REALIZE, BY THE WAY, THAT THEY WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND OTHER THINGS. BY THE WAY, BEFORE WE IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO SCOPE THE PROJECT. AND THEN THEY KNOW THIS GROUP THAT I PLAN ON BRINGING IN. THEY KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER VENDORS VIA A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BRING THEM INTO A MEETING WHERE THEY CAN 1520 MINUTE PRESENTATION FOR YOU TO SEE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RICH, YOU HAD A COMMENT. YEAH, IT WAS IT WAS INTERESTING, THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED BECAUSE I HAD BEEN SPEAKING TO SOME PEOPLE OVER ON BEHIND JD PARKER ON SOUTHEAST WEST WEST SAINT JOSEPH'S AVENUE, AND A NUMBER OF THEM COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FACT THAT FOR MANY YEARS THAT BACK GATE COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU MAY KNOW, WAS CLOSED AND IT'S NOW OPENED. AND SO THEY CAN DROP OFF AND PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN. AND. AND SO THESE PEOPLE INDICATED WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO I WENT OUT THERE THE NEXT MORNING AND I WAS, OH MY GOD, IT WAS TURNED IN. PEOPLE REALLY WERE MOVING WAY TOO FAST DOWN THAT STREET. AND THEN THIS EMAIL JUST A COUPLE DAYS LATER POPPED UP WITH REGARD TO THIS SYSTEM, WHICH IS, I THINK, MARKEDLY BETTER THAN THE ONE WE HEARD ABOUT. IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I THINK. SO I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT OF GREAT INTEREST AND THE, THE, THE NUMBERS, THE EFFECTIVENESS IS REALLY REMARKABLE. SO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. COMMISSIONER CLARK YES, I FORGOT TO SAY THIS IN MY COMMENTS. I WAS JUST OUT DRIVING TO A PROGRAM AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THE OTHER EVENING, AND IT HAD RAIN, BUT IT WASN'T A BIG RAIN AT THE TIME. IT WASN'T A BIG RAIN LIKE WE HAVE FOR A SUSTAINED PERIOD OF TIME. IT RAINED AND THEN STOPPED, BUT I'M SURE IT RAINED WHILE I WAS INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT I WAS ON BALBOA, I. I DID BOTH FIFTH STREET AND STYPMANN. 
          I HAPPENED TO DRIVE AROUND THE AREA ACTUALLY, AND WE HAD DONE A DRAINAGE AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED. DURING THE CRA MEETING I THOUGHT WE HAD APPROVED SOME DRAINAGE WORK FOR IN THERE WITH THROUGH THE CRA AND I WASN'T SURE HOW THAT WAS GOING, BUT THE ENTIRE AREA SEEMED A LITTLE BIT FLOODED TO ME AND IT WASN'T A BIG RAIN AT THE TIME, SO I WAS WONDERING IF THE WORK WAS ACTUALLY DONE AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. BUT STAFF CAN JUST LISTEN TO THIS AND GET BACK WITH ME ON IT, BUT I, I DIDN'T NOTICE IT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. CAN I GET AN APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA? MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED. I'LL. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMENTS FROM THE 
          [COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) ]
PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. REMEMBER IT'S LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I HAVE DEREK OGDEN. 
          WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DEREK OGDEN. I AM A RESIDENT OF STUART AND I'M HERE ABOUT THE BALL FIELDS AND WHY. A SIMPLE QUESTION SHOULD US STUART RESIDENTS GET TO VOTE ON THEIR FUTURE KEEPS GETTING DELAYED. IN MAY, THIS COMMISSION HAD HAD THE CHOICE IN FRONT OF THEM. MAYOR REED PUSHED TO SEND IT TO THE VOTERS, AND COMMISSIONER JOB BACKED HIM UP ON THAT. MAYOR REED WARNED THAT LETTING THIS FAIL WAS, QUOTE, A DISSERVICE TO THE CONSTITUENTS THAT HE REPRESENTS. AND I AGREE COMMISSIONER JOB DID HER BEST, AND THEY SPENT THE NIGHT TRYING TO FIND A THIRD VOTE, A THIRD SUPPORTER, AND THEY WERE RIGHT TO TRY. BUT THE TWO COMMISSIONERS RUNNING FOR REELECTION WOULD NOT EVEN SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THE GROUP ONE COMMISSIONER CALLED THE IDEA RECKLESS AND A SOURCE OF GREAT CONCERN. THE COMMISSIONER 
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FROM GROUP FIVE CALLED IT PREMATURE AND SAID SHE WOULD NOT MOVE ON IT, AND THEN SAID THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD THAT SHE'S, QUOTE, HOPING OUR COMMISSION IS GOING TO CHANGE IN AUGUST. SHE ALSO SAYS THAT SHE FAVORS PRESERVING THESE FIELDS WITH RESPECT. YOU CANNOT CLAIM YOU WANT TO PROTECT THE PARKS WHILE REFUSING TO LET THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THEM VOTE TO PROTECT THEM. THOSE TWO THINGS DON'T GO TOGETHER, SO WATCH FOR THE REASONS FOR THE DELAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HOLD WATER. WE WERE TOLD AT THE NAACP MEETING THAT A FUR DAP FRDAP GRANT WILL PROTECT THESE FIELDS. THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE THAT GRANT AND IT'S COMPETITIVE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO WIN THE GRANT. AND A FUR DAP IS A COVENANT RUN BY A STATE AGENCY IN TALLAHASSEE. THE STATE CAN MODIFY IT. THEY CAN ALSO SWAP OUT THE PARK FOR A COMPARABLE PROPERTY SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROTECT THE SAILFISH BALLPARK. THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS STUART RESIDENTS HOLDING THIS DECISION IN A VOTE. AND LISTEN TO HOW CAREFULLY THE PROMISES ARE WORDED, ONE CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR GROUP THREE SAID AT THE NAACP MEETING THAT HE'D NEVER SELL THESE PARKS, WHICH IS BELIEVABLE, BUT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WORD HE AVOIDED USING. 
          HE DID NOT SAY THAT HE WOULD NEVER DEVELOP THE PARKS. THE OUT IS A LEASE AND THIS ISN'T AN IMAGINARY THING. THE AZUL APARTMENTS IN DOWNTOWN SIT ON CITY LAND THAT WAS HANDED TO A DEVELOPER ON A 99 YEAR LEASE. THAT LAND WAS NEVER SOLD, BUT IT'S GONE FOR A CENTURY. A 99 YEAR LEASE WOULD TAKE THESE FIELDS THE SAME WAY, AND NO ONE EVER HAS TO USE THE WORD SELL. 
          THE AMENDMENT THAT THE TWO COMMISSIONERS BLOCKED WOULD CLOSE ALL OF THESE DOORS AND GIVE THE POWER TO THE RESIDENTS OF STUART. BUT THE DEVELOPERS AND THE RULING CLASS WHO BACKED THESE COMMISSIONERS CANNOT HAVE THAT. AND ANOTHER CORRECTION FROM THE NAACP STATEMENT. NO ONE SINGLE HANDEDLY SAVED THESE FIELDS IN. IN 2019, A FULL FIVE MEMBER COMMISSION VOTED NO TO SELLING THEM AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, JANINE ALEXANDER. BY SHOW OF HANDS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO HAS RECEIVED THE MEETING NOTES THAT I PASSED OUT THIS EVENING BY SHOW OF HANDS. MAY I SEE THE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL THAT RECEIVED MY EMAIL TODAY? TODAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING. I'VE DECIDED TO TAKE A DIFFERENT COURSE OF ACTION THIS EVENING THAN I ORIGINALLY CAME IN HERE WITH. TO AVOID PUBLIC HUMILIATION OF ANY OF THESE CITY COMMISSIONERS THAT FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF MY EMAIL. THE SERIOUSNESS OF MY ACCUSATIONS STEMMED BACK TO A DOMESTIC EVENT THAT OCCURRED IN 2015 WHEREBY I WAS BATTERED, FALSELY IMPRISONED. I WAS VIDEOTAPED, UNKNOWING, UNKNOWINGLY, MY DOMESTIC PARTNER LIED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO COVER HIS OWN INDISCRETIONS. THE POLICE OFFICER THAT CAME ONTO THE SCENE WAS INEXPERIENCED AND UNQUALIFIED TO DO WHAT HE WAS DOING THAT EVENING. BECAUSE OF THAT, OUR NEW CHIEF OF POLICE HAS ENACTED NEW POLICY 27 ON EVIDENCE COLLECTION. I APPLAUD HIS EFFORTS, BUT THAT ATTENTION TO THAT POLICY HAS BEEN LACKING SINCE 2017, WHEN DAVID DIAZ KNEW THAT OFFICERS WERE UNAUTHORIZED TO ALTER, DELETE OR CHANGE ANY CONTENT OF EVIDENCE THAT WAS ENTERED INTO CITY POSSESSION. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE IN ORDER TO CHARGE ME WITH A CRIME THAT I STILL BEAR THE TITLE OF FELON TO THE REASON I HAVE PURSUED THIS IS NOT ONLY OUT OF PERSONAL DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR MYSELF, BUT FOR MY FAMILY. THE ALEXANDER NAME MY FATHER PASSED ON TO ME. A 30 YEAR VETERAN OF THE US ARMY WENT DOWN WITH ME. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN ON AMERICAN TERRITORY, ESPECIALLY WHEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FAILS TO DO HIS DUTY. I HAVE DETERMINED TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL PARTIES CONCERNED, INCLUDING FORMER CITY MANAGER MICHAEL MARTELL, CURRENT MANAGER AND MAYOR, TO TURN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT INTO A PROPOSAL FOR PRIVATE SETTLEMENT UNDER 768.28. YOU HAVE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF CLAIM BY AND THROUGH LEE BAGGETT AS EARLY AS 2023, AND AS OF TONIGHT, YOU HAVE RECEIVED AN AMENDED NOTICE OF 
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CLAIM 2026. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF RETAINING COUNSEL TO REPRESENT ME. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDIATE AND RESOLVE THIS MATTER BEFORE I FILE A CIVIL COMPLAINT UNDER 768.28 THAT COULD RESULT IN A REQUEST FOR UNCAPPED DAMAGES. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS THIS LAW, YOU MIGHT WANT TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF. IT'S A SERIOUS MATTER. WHEN A CITY COMMISSION. IT RESULTS IN INADEQUATE THANK YOU OVERSIGHT. THANK YOU JANINE. KAREN. YOST. 
          RUDGE. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. IT'S ALWAYS SAD. I MEAN, WHAT YOU DID TO THAT GIRL WAS WORSE THAN WHAT YOU DID TO MY FAMILY. GOD BLESS AMERICA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I JUST I MEAN, THAT ALWAYS GETS ME. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU GUYS. I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU, YOU HAVE LYING, DEFRAUDING LAWYERS. CARRIE LEININGER, YOU HAD HER, IN OUR CASE IN THE FEDERAL COURT. AND SHE. I'VE SHOWED YOU EVIDENCE HOW SHE DEFRAUDED THE COURT, AND THEN I GUESS SHE GOT AN APPROVAL FROM YOU TO TAKE OVER THE STATE CASE AS WELL. SO THIS IT'S IT BOGGLES MY MIND. IT'S ALMOST LIKE IN MARTIN COUNTY, THE CITY OF STUART, IF YOU DO SOMETHING BAD, YOU GET A PROMOTION LIKE MR. MARTELL. NOW HE'S A TRIAL COURT ADMINISTRATOR. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS. I KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE WANT IT TO WORK. WE WANT TO TRUST YOU WANT WE WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND SOMETIMES GOOD PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, YES, YOU HAVE NO OVERSIGHT IN YOUR ATTORNEY OFFICE, NOT MR. BAGGETT I'M TALKING ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, IN OUR CASE FOR 16 YEARS MORTEL, AND NOW THIS CARRIE LEININGER FROM WILLIAMS, LEONARD AND COSBY. WHY? YOU DON'T CARE? YOU REPRESENT US. AND NOW YOU HAVE LAWYERS LYING AND DEFRAUDING THE COURT. WHY THIS DOESN'T BOTHER YOU? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. BUT IT HARMS WE, THE RESIDENTS, WE THE PEOPLE. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU FIND OUT WHY YOU'RE. WHY ARE YOU GUYS DOING THIS? I GUESS YOU CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE, BUT CAN YOU HAVE A MEETING AND SAY, WHY DO WE HAVE LYING ATTORNEYS THAT DEFRAUD THE COURT? YOU GUYS STARTED LITIGATION AGAINST US AND THEN YOU JUST LIE THE WHOLE WAY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S NOT RIGHT AND IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS. AND GROUP FIVE KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT. SHE'S BEEN COMPLICIT IN IT THE WHOLE TIME. MAYBE THE REST OF YOU ARE JUST CONFIRMATION BIAS, BUT GROUP FIVE HAS BEEN AT THE WHOLE TIME. AND THEN WE GOT MERRITT MATHESON SENDING A THING TO THE MAYOR WHEN HE WAS MAYOR AND SAYING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET OUR PROPERTY FROM MARTIN COUNTY FOREVER. MERRITT MATHESON AND HIS MARTIN COUNTY FOREVER. AND WHY IS HE TRYING TO GLOM OUR PROPERTY WHEN IT'S IN LITIGATION AND HE KNOWS IT IS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          WE LOVE YOU GUYS. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, BUT DANG, JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. GOT ME GROUP FIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU KAREN. THANK YOU KAREN. I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. MAYOR. EXCUSE ME. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER RICH, IN FUTURE PUBLIC COMMENTS, COULD YOU REMIND PEOPLE THAT THEY CANNOT REFER TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS SPECIFICALLY? THEY MAY ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS TO YOU, BUT NOT TO OR ABOUT INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, COMMISSIONER RICH. I DID SPEAK WITH LEGAL PRIOR TO THIS MEETING AND HE SAID IT WAS UP TO THE CHAIR. PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE PUBLIC ADDRESSING US 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ]
INDIVIDUALLY, WHETHER IT'S POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. CAN I GET AN APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PUBLISHED? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL. SECOND. COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RICH. 
          IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER RICH. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER. GIOBBE. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MAYOR REED. YES. MOTION PASSES 
          [3. PROJECT LIFT LEASE AGREEMENT (RC):    RESOLUTION No. 43-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE  CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF  A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND PROJECT L.I.F.T.,  INC. FOR THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY KNOWN AS “PROJECT LIFT”  LOCATED AT 710 SE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, STUART, FLORIDA;  AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LEASE AGREEMENT;  PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ]
UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO COMMISSION ACTION. PROJECT LIFT LEASE AGREEMENT, RESOLUTION 
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NUMBER 43, 2026. RESOLUTION NUMBER 43-2026. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND PROJECT LIFT, INC. FOR THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY, KNOWN AS PROJECT LIFT, LOCATED AT 710 SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD, STUART, FLORIDA. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE LEASE AGREEMENT PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. DIRECTOR, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. THIS ITEM IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND PROJECT LIFT FOR THE OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT OF PROJECT LIFT FACILITY LOCATED AT 710 SOUTHEAST MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY RECEIVED CDBG COVID GRANT FUNDING TO ACQUIRE, DEMOLISH AND CONSTRUCT THE THE FACILITY. THE TRAINING FACILITY. THAT PROJECT IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED. WE EXPECT TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BY END OF AUGUST. SO WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW PROJECT LIFT TO OPERATE THE FACILITY AND PROVIDE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, TRADE PROGRAMS, ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT. THE LEASE ESTABLISHED THE ESTABLISHES THE OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR PROJECT LIFT, INCLUDING PROGRAMING, MAINTENANCE, REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GRANT REQUIREMENTS. LEE WILL GO OVER THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT'S IN THE LEASE AND ALSO OUR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. I'M JUST GOING TO HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S OVER 20 PAGES, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE. BUT THE THE TERMS OF THE LEASE ARE THERE'S THE FIRST TERM IS GOING TO BE 20 YEARS AS PROPOSED IN THIS LEASE AGREEMENT. DURING THAT 20 YEARS, THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL RENT OF ONLY A DOLLAR. AND THE QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT A DOLLAR? REMEMBER, THIS IS GRANT MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND DEMO WHAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY AND TO DEVELOP AND BUILD THE BUILDING THAT'S THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE OR BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW. SO IN ESSENCE, THE CITY HAD GOTTEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GRANT MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS NEW PROPERTY. AND THE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT. PROJECT LIFT IS A NONPROFIT. SO AS A RESULT OF GETTING THIS GRANT MONEY, WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO SOMETHING AS FAR AS CONSISTENT WITH THE GRANT, SUCH AS A JOB TRAINING FACILITY. SO WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS LEASE AGREEMENT IS A PROPOSAL OF THE FIRST TERM IS 20 YEARS. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BREAK THE TERM IS FOR DURING THAT FIRST 20 YEARS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE OR SOME TYPE OF DEFAULT ON EITHER PARTY. AFTER THE 20 YEAR INITIAL TERM, THERE WILL BE TEN YEAR RENEWALS, THREE. SO A TOTAL OF 50 YEARS. AND AFTER THE FIRST 20 YEARS, WHEN THE FIRST RENEWAL IS UP, EITHER PARTY MAY DECIDE NOT TO RENEW THE THE THE NEXT RENEWAL TERM AS LONG AS YOU GIVE 18 MONTHS NOTICE. SO 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE 20 YEARS OF THE INITIAL TERM BEING UP, THE CITY COULD DECIDE FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON AT ALL NOT TO RENEW THE LEASE. AND IF THEY DECIDE TO RENEW IT, IT'LL BE FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS. AND THEY'LL HAVE TWO FURTHER OPTIONS DOWN THE ROAD. THE OTHER THING IS THE USE AND OCCUPANCY OCCUPANCY OF THE FACILITY. WE HAVE A DEFINED INTENDED PURPOSE. THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THE FACILITY IS TO PROVIDE VOCATIONAL TRAINING, WORKFORCE AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMING AND BUSINESS INCUBATION TO SUPPORT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND AND START UP BUSINESSES IN UNDERREPRESENTED NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY. DURING THE FIRST FIVE YEARS UNDER THE GRANT. SO THE GRANT IS GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO THE LEASE AS AN EXHIBIT. BUT UNDER THE FIRST FIVE YEARS UNDER OUR GRANT, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING REPORTING TO THE TO THE STATE, SHOWING PROGRESS THAT WE'VE DONE. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS WE GOT TO SHOW THAT WE CREATED 50 NEW JOBS. SO THAT'S REQUIRED DURING THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AFTER THE FIVE YEARS IS UP IN THE REPORTING IS UP, THOSE RESTRICTIONS CAN BE LIFTED, AND THERE'S NO NEED TO FURTHER REPORT TO THE STATE. AND THEN FURTHERMORE, UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LEASE PROJECT, LIFT WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY ALL INSURANCE AND PAY ALL PROPERTY TAXES. AND. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TERMS THEY'RE AGREEING TO INDEMNIFY US. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE SUED FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES ON AND THEY DECIDE TO SUE THE CITY BECAUSE 
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THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY, THEY WILL AGREE TO INDEMNIFY US AND DEFEND US. IN ANY SUCH CASE WITH THE INSURANCE. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE REASONS TO HAVE THE FIRST YEAR, FIRST TERM BEING 20 YEARS, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH PROJECT LIFT AND MR. ZACKIOS HERE, AND HE CAN FURTHER ADDRESS THIS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT THEY HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS WITH PROJECT LIFT. THEY THEY DO BUILD OTHER THEY HAVE OTHER BUILDINGS, I THINK ONE IN HOBE SOUND AND ONE FORT PIERCE, THAT'S SIMILAR. THEY'RE GOING TO SINK IN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND COSTS FROM PROJECT LIFT, SUCH AS ALL THE EQUIPMENT INSIDE. THEY'RE ALSO GOING. THEY'VE ALSO PAID FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, WHICH WAS A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE TO INCUR. SO IN ORDER TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS, 20 YEARS WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THEY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS FACILITY AND RECOUP THOSE COSTS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING UP FRONT. 
          IN REGARDS TO PUTTING ON THIS PROGRAM AND MAINTAINING THE BUILDING FOR THE 20 YEARS. 
          THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE HIGHLIGHTS. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MR. ZACCHEO, I SAW HIM EARLIER. 
          HE'S HE'S HERE IN PRESENT AS A AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF PROJECT LIFT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER RICH. MISS. MR. BAGGETT, DID YOU MISSPEAK? YOU INDICATED HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROPERTY TAX. YEAH, WELL, IF THERE ARE ANY PROPERTY TAXES, MIGHT THEY. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. 
          SOMETIMES THEY'RE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WE END UP HAVING, RIGHT. YEAH. SO BUT I LEARNED THIS BECAUSE I USED TO WORK AT THE COUNTY AND I WORKED AT PSL IN HERE. SO A COUNTY, THEY'RE IMMUNE FROM TAXATION, THEIR PROPERTIES. BUT WHEN THE CITY OWNS IT, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO FALL UNDER AN EXEMPTION. AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO FALL UNDER AN EXEMPTION AND NO GUARANTEE THERE'S AN EXEMPTION. BUT I ASSUME HE'LL BE ABLE TO GET. YEAH. BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS THIS WILL REMAIN CITY OWNED PROPERTY, CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT CORRECT. BUT IT'LL BE AND IT'S BEING USED BY A NONPROFIT. BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS OUT THERE. IF A CITY USES IT FOR NON MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, IT COULD BE PROPERTY. IT COULD BE TAXED. SO YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET THE EXEMPTION. AND THERE'S VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. COMMISSIONER CLARK HI. HI MR. ZACCHEO, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET TO SEND YOU THESE QUESTIONS. AND IT'S FOR STAFF AS WELL. SO IN YOUR VOCATIONAL TRAINING, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS ALREADY, BUT THIS IS WE'RE AT OUR FINAL AND UPDATED NOW. WE HAD THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH YOU, THE WORKFORCE AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUSINESS INCUBATION HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY CLOSE TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. SO I WANT YOU TO EXPLAIN ABOUT BUSINESS INCUBATION. AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT'S YOUR HOBE SOUND PIECE OR IF YOU HAVE A PIECE, WHETHER IN BELLE GLADE OR FORT PIERCE THAT HAS DONE SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS INCUBATION, IF YOU COULD TELL US HOW THAT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT COME SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WHEN YOU START WITH THAT PROGRAM, WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE RESIDENTS, I HAVE SEVERAL, SEVERAL QUESTIONS, AND I PROBABLY WILL JUST LET HIM GO WITH THAT. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS, CAN WE ADDRESS ONE AT A TIME? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE WITH JOBS. SO LET ME JUST GO ON. JUST YOU CAN DO THAT ABOUT THE BUSINESS INCUBATION AND THE, THE, THE, THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING. I, AND I KNOW THAT YOU PROBABLY DID A VISUAL FOR US BEFORE. MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN WITH A VISUAL ANOTHER TIME SHOWING HOW YOU BREAK UP THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT YOU DO, WHETHER IT'S AUTOMOTIVE AND DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT JUST TELL US ABOUT BUSINESS INCUBATION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEY WANT TO KNOW. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I ALWAYS, ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, REALLY THANKFUL FOR HOW FAR THIS HAS COME AND WHERE AND THE, THE TWO GOING ON THREE YEARS, ACTUALLY OVER TWO YEARS NOW. 
          THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FROM THE CITY STAFF TO THE, THE CITY COMMISSION AND, AND EVERYBODY COMING TO SEE HOW WE DO IT AND WHAT WE DO. AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN MORE THAN OPEN TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY ON TOURS TO OPEN THE FACILITY SO PEOPLE CAN WALK AROUND IT, SEE OUR FACILITY THAT WE'RE RUNNING IN HOBE SOUND AND, AND GIVE ANSWER JUST ABOUT ANY QUESTION I CAN POSSIBLY ANSWER. YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY ARE ASKING ABOUT BUSINESS INCUBATION. AND SO WHAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT PROJECT LIFT IS A MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM. WE USE VOCATIONAL TRAINING AS THE WAY INTO A KID'S LIFE. AND THAT 
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THEN LEADS TO JOB READINESS, EMPLOYABILITY, WHICH WE DO AT A VERY HIGH, HIGH LEVEL. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS AT THIS POINT TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, HEY, TELL ME WHAT IT IS EXACTLY THAT YOU NEED, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK IT'S FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS THAT THEY SHOULD SIT DOWN WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND, AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING AND HOW THEY'RE SAYING IT. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I, I HEARD A NUMBER THAT WAS SO CONCERNING TO ME THAT IT, IT REALLY MOVED ME ALMOST TO TEARS IN A MEETING I WAS IN ABOUT TWO, MAYBE A WEEK AND A HALF AGO WITH CODY JOHNSON AND, AND HIS ORGANIZATION. I GOTTA TELL YOU, THEY SAID THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO EXISTING BUSINESSES IN IN EAST STUART. DID YOU KNOW THAT? YES. 
          DID YOU KNOW THERE WAS 70, 80, 80. SORRY, I WAS GOING TO SAY 72, BUT THERE WAS 80 BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DON'T NO LONGER EXIST. AND TO ME, THAT'S HEARING THE COMMUNITY AND SAYING, HEY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA? FROM THAT POINT, WE DEVELOPED A SUBCOMMITTEE INSIDE OF ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AND ONE OF THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT ACTUALLY ONLY DEALS WITH PROJECT LIFT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR PROJECT LIFT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES THE BUSINESS INCUBATION COMPONENTS OF IT. AND I TOLD YOU BEFORE, WHEN WE CAME UP TO THIS PODIUM, ACTUALLY YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY APPROVALS WE ENDED UP HAVING ON THIS IS THAT WE WOULD BE VERY MUCH 100% COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT BUSINESS INCUBATION WAS A PRIORITY, AND WE WOULD RAISE UP THE COMMUNITY LEADERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BRING THEM IN TO TO DO THAT. AND WE INCUR THE EXPENSES RELATED TO IT. THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THAT THE FACILITY IS AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESS INCUBATION FOR THE CDBG GRANT GUIDELINES. I AM 100% COMMITTING COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS DONE. 
          AND WHEN WE GET PEOPLE THAT COME TO PROJECT LIFT WORK FOR. WE'LL FILL OUT AN APPLICATION ON OUR, OUR WEBSITE THAT'S DIRECTLY LINKED TO BUSINESS INCUBATION. WE'LL WORK THROUGH IT AND BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THAT PROGRAM AT THAT POINT. SO THEY'LL HAVE LIKE CUBICLES AND A PLACE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO TRY TO SET UP AND GET THEIR INFORMATION TOGETHER. THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE WE JUST SPENT JUST TODAY, I JUST SIGNED THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE APPROVAL FOR $60,000 WORTH OF, OF, OF FURNITURE TO GO INTO THAT BUILDING FOR CUBICLE SPACE AND FURNITURE THAT IS NOT CHARGED TO THE CITY. RIGHT. THAT'S ALL STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE RAISING THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS, TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE CDBG GRANT. YES. OKAY. FOR COMPLIANCE PURPOSES, WITH REGARD TO STAFF AND HOW WE COUNT AND YOURSELF HOW WE COUNT JOB CREATION, THIS IS JOB CREATION STRICTLY FROM PROJECT LIFT. THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT YOU ACTUALLY CREATE. YOU'RE NOT COMPARING WITH THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT WERE AVAILABLE IN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA BEFORE. 
          YOU'RE JUST SAYING, IF WE HAVE THIS COURSE AND OVER A SIX MONTH OR ONE YEAR PERIOD OR WHATEVER, WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE CREATED 50 NEW JOBS. ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPORT SO THAT WE HAVE COMPLIANCE. AND THAT WOULD SHOW THAT EITHER THOSE JOBS WERE EITHER CREATED OR RETAINED, AT LEAST 51% OF THEM. SO I THAT 51, A HALF OF THEM, A LITTLE BIT OVER HALF OF THEM WOULD BENEFIT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS, AND THAT WOULD BE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS IN STUART PENAL, IN MARTIN COUNTY, OR JUST IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA WHERE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CRA AREA. WHERE WHERE IS THAT COUNT FOR FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS WHERE THESE STUDENTS COME FROM. WE JUST HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT GOES TO MODERATE AND LOW INCOME. EXACTLY. OKAY, SO THAT 1%, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME TO COMPLIANCE, THAT WE'RE ALL ON THAT UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. NEXT, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I WANT TO REITERATE TOO. WE'RE DISCUSSING A 23 PAGE LEASE AGREEMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE LEASE, MAYBE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE OR WANT TO CHANGE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AS WELL. 
          THAT'S IT. THAT'S SECTION FIVE OF THE LEASE. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY, USE AN OCCUPANT. OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S IT. WHAT WE'RE HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COUNT THAT? OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO SUBLEASES OR JOINT PARTNERSHIP WITH PERSONS WHO ARE DOING A COMMUNITY OUTREACH, IT SAYS IN SECTION FIVE OF THE LEASE, THE LESSEE MAY ALSO USE THE PREMISES FOR CUSTOMARY 
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INCIDENTAL AND REASONABLE RELATED PURPOSES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE LESSEE SERVICES AND TO FULFILL ITS MISSION AND VISION, INCLUDING TRAINING, MENTORING, COUNSELING, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, FUNDRAISING EVENTS AND PARTNER PROGRAM. SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATED AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET COMPLIANCE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU DO ANY ANYTHING THAT HAS TO MEET THE SUB GRANT REQUIREMENTS AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT SAY THE N DOUBLE, A CP OR ANOTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, THAT IS VERY CLEAR. THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE DON'T SAY YOU'RE WORKING WITH THIS GROUP OR WORKING WITH ANOTHER GROUP, THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE GUIDELINES. IS THAT CORRECT, MISS? MISS. GANDHI'S SAVED US. 
          YES. HE HE COULD SUBLEASE OR PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THE SPACE. OKAY. THAT'S KIND THAT'S INDICATED IN THE LEASE. 
          OKAY. I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOAL POST DOESN'T GET GET MOVED WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT SUBLEASING TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE IT SPECIFICALLY, IT SAYS SHARED USE MAY BE ALLOWED TO MISSION ALIGNED PARTNERS, VOLUNTEERS OR COLLABORATORS. IS THAT THE SECTION YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS THAT YOU COULD YOU SPECIFY WHAT SECTION THAT IS? SECTION 11.1 RIGHT. I OKAY, YEAH. SECTION 11 IS ASSIGNMENT AND SUBLET. RIGHT. YOU SAID FIVE. BUT I THOUGHT, WELL, SECTION FIVE WAS THE OTHER THING ABOUT USING OCCUPANCY. THE MAYOR WANTED ME TO GO DOWN MY QUESTIONS REAL QUICK, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING QUICK ABOUT DOING THIS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE SIGNED THIS, THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED WITHIN A YEAR AND THEN WITHIN FIVE YEARS AS TO HOW THEY'RE PROGRESSING ON THIS LONG TERM LEASE NUMBER. SAME PLACE IN SECTION 11.1, IT SAYS THAT ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUBLET OR ASSIGNMENT, THEY HAVE TO OBTAIN WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S SOLE DISCRETION, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD OR CONDITIONED OR DELAYED. SO AGAIN, THAT SUPPORT, ONCE WE AS A COMMISSION APPROVED THIS, THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM ON APPROVING THINGS AS THEY COME ALONG. IS THAT CORRECT, MISS CANDACE? ABDUS? CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND THEN AGAIN IN SECTION 11.3, WHICH IS CRITICAL, ANY SUBLEASES OF ALL OR ANY OF THE PREMISES SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING PROVISION REGARDING ASSIGNMENT AND SUBLEASE. THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO ASSIGNMENT OR SUBLET OR BY THE SUB LESSEE UNLESS IT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND. AND IT SHOULD BE OCCUPIED SOLELY BY THE SUB LESSEE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT SAYS THAT FOR PURPOSE OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE AFFILIATION IS DEFINED BASED ON THE COMMONALITY OF OFFICERS, DIRECTORS OR SHAREHOLDERS. SO WHENEVER SOMEBODY FORMS A PARTNERSHIP, YOU HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH US. OR IF WE SIGN THIS, YOU'LL HAVE A FULL PARTNERSHIP WITH US. AND WHEN SOMEBODY SIGNS WITH YOU, THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY SIGNING ONTO THAT PARTNERSHIP AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS YOU HAVE. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THOSE ARE THE TWO KEY THINGS I HAD IN THE AGREEMENT. SO THAT WAS SECTION FIVE ABOUT THE PURPOSE AND AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, I THINK MOST OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THE GUIDELINES, I MUST SAY, MR. BAGGETT, ALL OF THOSE STANDARD GUIDELINES WERE PUT IN AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF A LONG TERM AGREEMENT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROJECT COME THROUGH AND MAKE SOME TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR STEWARD AND, OF COURSE, OUR MARTIN COUNTY AREA, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, NOT JUST THOSE IN STUART OR THOSE IN THE CRA OR THOSE IN THE E STUART CRA. IT'S OPEN TO TO EVERYONE. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'VE HAD PEOPLE HAVE YOU HAD PEOPLE FROM THE IMMEDIATE EAST STUART AREA GO TO VISIT YOUR PLACES IN YOUR HOBE SOUND FACILITY? YES, MA'AM. 
          WE'VE HAD VISITS DOWN TO HOBE SOUND. I'VE OPENED THE THE TOUR GATES ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AS WELL AND AND TAKEN TOURS THROUGH FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF OF STUART. AND I HOPE THAT IF YOU DO GET THIS THIS VOTE ON THIS, I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR OPENING THAT YOU'LL HAVE 
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SOME OF YOUR ALUMNI OR GRADUATES COME OUT AND, AND LET'S SEE HOW HOW THEY'RE DOING AND SAY A FEW WORDS. OH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY, AT LEAST MY ENTIRE STAFF, ALL THE NEW STAFF THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON BOARD AS WELL. THANK YOU. 
          SAW THAT WE WERE DOING AN EVENT OUT THERE RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF LAKE AND AND MLK AND JUST HAVING, I'M SORRY, TARPON AND, AND MLK TO, TO HAVE A, A HIRING EVENT WHERE WE GOT SEVEN APPLICATIONS. WE'VE STARTED INTERVIEWS THIS PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE ARE ACTUALLY MAKING A, A, AN OFFER TO A, TO A POTENTIAL STAFF MEMBER FOR SITE DIRECTOR WHO'S A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WAS REFERRED. SO WE'RE WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WONDERFUL HOLDING UP THE END OF THE END OF THE BARGAIN AS IT RELATES TO HIRING AND TARGETING THE THE TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS THAT THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THEIR BUSINESS, INCUBATION THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YOU, MRS. CLARK, COMMISSIONER CLARK. 
          SORRY. THANK YOU. I'M FINISHED FOR RIGHT NOW. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS, BOB. SO DID YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS IN THE LEASE ITSELF? NO. THOSE ARE THE ONLY PARAGRAPHS I HAD QUESTIONS ON. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RICH, DID YOU STILL HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YOUR LIGHT WAS ON, AND THEN I NOTICED I JUST GOT TURNED OFF. NO, IT'S. WELL. YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          WELL, SHE ACTUALLY HIT THE TWO ELEMENTS OF THE LEASE THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF COMMISSIONER CLARK THOSE WERE APPROPRIATE COMMENTS REGARDING SECTION 11. WAS THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE SMALL CONTROVERSY WE HAD SIX MONTHS AGO WITH THE FLAGLER PLACE AND THEM SUBLEASING THAT FACILITY? THAT'S A GOOD ONE. NO, BUT I WAS JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TALK ABOUT SUBLEASING, OR AT LEAST A AGENCY THAT'S COMMUNITY AGENCY. 
          I THINK THE NAA CP WAS INTERESTED IN, IN WORKING WITH THEM AND DOING SOME THINGS. AND PROBABLY IT'S A ONE HAND WASH THE OTHER. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING TO ENSURE THAT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL MEET THEIR SOME OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS TO, TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF MY THINGS. SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE START USING THE FACILITY OR WHEN THERE'S A SUBLEASE, THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AND HOW THAT RELATIONSHIP COULD DEVELOP WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, OTHER NONPROFITS, AND THAT IT'S ALLOWED, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT LISTED IN THE MOU. THIS THIS IS THE INTENT. MR. ZACCHEO, COULD I JUST ASK YOU, DO YOU SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AFFILIATE WITH GROUPS THAT MAY HELP IN YOUR EFFORT? OH, ABSOLUTELY. I, I THINK THAT THIS WAS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT PAUL AND I WERE PUTTING IN EARLY ON WAS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL AND, AND AGGRESSIVE WAY. THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I'M SITTING, SITTING DOWN WITH PEOPLE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE WEEK, SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK TO HEAR, TO HEAR WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER RICH, IT'S I THINK IT'S UNHEARD OF THAT AN A A LEASE LIKE THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME INTENTION THAT'S RELATED TO SUBCOMMITTEES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE VOICE RELATED TO WHAT HAPPENS AT PROJECT LIVE. I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE CONNECTED THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE AND YOU HAVE TURNOVER IN YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF STRUCTURE TO IT. I THINK IT'S THE STRONGEST MOVE I'VE SEEN. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT ANY ANY ORGANIZATION DO THAT BEFORE. I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY THE SMARTEST THING TO DO. AND YEAH, MISS GANDY, IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU AND JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, WE RECEIVED A CDBG GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF. FOR THIS PROJECT, 10.2 MILLION, 10.2 MILLION. AND THIS WAS ADMINISTERED BY WHICH ORGANIZATION? WHICH COMPANY FOR US. OH, GUARDIAN AND GUARDIAN. 
          AND WE WERE VERY HAPPY WITH ALL OF US ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULT. YES. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A CALL WITH FLORIDA COMMERCE AND THEY WERE VERY HAPPY WITH HOW WE ARE PROGRESSING WITH THE PROJECT AND PROVIDING DOCUMENTS. AND, AND, AND MISTER, DID YOU FIND GUARDIAN EASY TO WORK WITH? YEAH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED SOMETIMES TWO, TWO TIMES A WEEK FOR THE PAST NINE MONTHS WITH THIS PROJECT. TEN MONTHS WITH THIS PROJECT. AND GUARDIAN IS HOLDING EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE. AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL WITH THEM. VERY CLEAR, VERY GOOD COMMUNICATORS. GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER CLARK, MY MY QUESTIONS WERE FOR FOR LEE SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION 11.1. I 
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KNOW WE RAN INTO THIS PRIOR. THE ONLY THING I, I DON'T REALLY LIKE, I GUESS, IS IT GIVES THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING A SUBLEASE. AM I READING THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO UNDER THE GRANT, THE. ANY SUBLESSEE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT ALIGNED WITH YOU CAN'T PUT A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S FOR PROFIT IN THE CORNER. I MEAN, SO THAT'S. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE AND HAVE A CHECK AND BALANCE WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT ON. YES, REALLY WHAT I'M GOING FOR, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SUBLESSEE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR SOMETHING FROM THE CITY MANAGER. JUST FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY. IT'S TAXPAYER MONEY. THEY SHOULD KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE SUBLEASED TO US BECAUSE WE RAN INTO THIS WITH STUART MAIN STREET, WHERE THEY SUBLEASED IT OUT, AND THE CITY MANAGER PRIOR, PRIOR TO MIKE BEING HERE, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF SUB LEASES THAT WERE THERE. UNLESS SOMEONE GOES AND DOES A, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST AND THEY SO HAPPEN TO FIND THIS WRITTEN CONSENT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. I'D RATHER SEE IT IN A CONSENT CALENDAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CONSENT ITEM. THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          ALSO, I KNOW WHAT WAS STATED PRIOR. I DID MENTION TO BOB. I WOULD MENTION IT PUBLICLY AS WELL. I WAS TOLD FROM PRIOR CITY MANAGER AS WELL THAT THIS WOULD BE A FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH TERM RENEWALS, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING 20 WITH TEN, TEN, TEN. AND THE REASON WAS WHETHER PROJECT LIFT WAS THERE OR SOMETHING HAPPENED OR THE COMMUNITY DIRECTION HAD CHANGED, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS PROPERTY TIED UP FOR 20 TO 50 YEARS PER SE. AND I, I UNDERSTAND WITH SPEAKING TO BOB THAT THAT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT WITH FINANCING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND GETTING LOANS OR GETTING PEOPLE TO GET ON BOARD WITH IT. BUT I WASN'T GOING TO NOT MENTION IT BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS TOLD PRIOR. AND I THINK FOR FUTURE WHEN WE DO STUFF LIKE THIS, AFTER SPEAKING WITH BOB, WE HAVE TWO THINGS. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE LEASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED AND TALKED ABOUT AT THE TIME OF THE INCEPTION OF THE PROJECT, SO IT'S NOT SOME BIG SURPRISE. AND HERE WE ARE TONIGHT. BUT THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON. THANKS. JUST PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE 2024 AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH THEM TO START OFF, IT KIND OF COVERS SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT THE DETAIL. NOW THAT WE HAVE THE THE THIS IN PLACE AND AND WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          SO I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE BOTH LEASE. I DID GO BACK AND REVIEW THEM. BUT SINCE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH, I AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HAD, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WAS THIS GUARDIAN, IS THAT THE SAME GUARDIAN THAT HAS DONE THE OTHER CDBG, LIKE THE HOMES THAT WE GAVE FUNDS FOR, THAT'S THE SAME GUARDIAN COMPANY. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT ON THE RECORD. AND THEN SPEAKING OF GUARDIAN AND THE WAY THAT HOME. I MEAN, HOMES, NOT GUARDIANS NOT MENTIONED IN THIS LEASE CORRECTLY. CORRECT. OKAY. NO, BUT SHE JUST SHE SAID THAT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THE BILL, MAKING SURE THE BUILDING IS OVERSEEN FOR THE GRANT PURPOSES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE FUNDING IS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND ALSO FOR REPORTING, ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED, WE DO HAVE TO REPORT IT. YES. FIVE YEARS. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHO HELPS WITH THE GRANT MANAGEMENT AND ALL THAT AND THE PASS THROUGH FOR THE GRANT. AND OKAY. SO WITH REGARD TO THAT AND THE BUILDING ITSELF, I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING. I REMEMBER WHEN THE BUILDING CAME IN, THE PROPOSED PLANS CAME IN AND WE HAD TO LOOK AT THEM, AND WE KNEW THAT IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE A CERTAIN HEIGHT. AND WE LOOKED AT THE THE FACADE AND THE FACADE SEEMED FINE. BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOW THAT IT'S THERE AND IT'S IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE IT IS THERE. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT, YOU KIND OF I WOULD LIKE THE ARK. THEY BELIEVE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE BUILDING MATERIAL IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE AREA. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IRON AND STEEL AND WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING THERE WITH PEOPLE USING TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, THEY MAY HAVE FIRE AND ALL THAT. AND SO IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN TYPE OF MATERIAL, AND IT'S BUILT WITH THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL LOOK AND FEEL, PROBABLY BY THE TIME IT'S FINISHED PAINTED. AND IT GOES TO THE PICTURES THAT WE WE SAW, IT MIGHT BE A SOFTER FEEL TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT I KNOW IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE UP IN ARMS AS TO, YOU KNOW, SAYING, HEY, THIS LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S JUST WAY OUT OF CHARACTER. HOWEVER, RIGHT ACROSS THE 
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CORNER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OLD MOTEL, THERE'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S A FIRE DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE FAIRLY BIG BUILDINGS. THEY ARE SET BACK FROM THE ROAD. SO IT DOES GIVE A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL, BUT THAT'S A CONCERN. NOTHING THAT I CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, NO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LANDSCAPING, MORE LANDSCAPING, PUT IN PINAL ALONG WAS APPROVED FROM RIGHT NOW. YEAH. WHAT'S THE WHEN THE LANDSCAPING GOES IN? YES. IT WILL PROBABLY LOOK DIFFERENT IN APPEARANCE DOWN. YES, IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IN APPEARANCE WHEN THE LANDSCAPING GOES IN. PLUS WHEN THE LANDSCAPING STARTS TO TO GROW AND FLOURISH. BUT THAT WAS A THAT I'VE HEARD THAT CONCERN FROM MANY PEOPLE ABOUT THE THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY BEHIND IT, BUT WE HAVE BIG BUILDINGS, WE HAVE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD. AND SO IT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. BUT THE LANDSCAPE AND WHEN THAT GOES IN, THAT WILL SOFTEN THAT THAT WHOLE BUILDING. YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, IT'S THE ENTIRE PLAN. THE ENTIRE PROJECT ISN'T COMPLETED YET. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO, AND ANYBODY THAT'S CONCERNED HAS A SIMILAR LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON THE HOBE SOUND SITE, ANYBODY CAN COME DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT ANY TIME. AND I'VE ONLY I'VE, I'VE ONLY RECEIVED COMPLIMENTS ON IT. SO I THINK I'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT. MAYBE THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT. BUT THE REALITY IS I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED. ANYBODY THAT DOES WANT TO COME SEE WHAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE, IT'S IT'S DOWN THERE, BUT IT'LL BE IT'S ONLY A COUPLE WEEKS OUT FROM FROM RECEIVING ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE. AND THERE'S ALSO A WALL THAT'S IN THE BACK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL. THERE'S A WALL THAT RUNS STRAIGHT DOWN THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS A NICE WALK PATH, THAT COMES THROUGH RIGHT THROUGH THE PROPERTY, FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER SIDE THAT I KNOW, CODY CODY JOHNSON HAS BEEN WORKING ON WITH PANEL TO TRY AND GET A MURAL THERE. THANK YOU. THERE'S GOING TO BE A, A, A MURAL THE ENTIRE LENGTH. AND I, I THINK THAT'S FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DISCUSS AS TO IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON IT. BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S GOING TO BE A PAYING HOMAGE TO THE TIMELINE OF THE. STUART. YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS, BOB. I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO REITERATE TO TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING THE LEASE TERMS. YES. THE PROJECT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THE PROJECT'S ALMOST COMPLETE FOR THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IF WE COULD JUST KEEP THE QUESTIONS AND THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS REGARDING THIS LEASE, I STATED MINE. DOES ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A CONCERN OR A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE 23 PAGE LEASE THAT'S IN OUR AGENDA PACKET? SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, LIKE I STATED EARLIER, I THINK IF THERE'S A SUBLEASE, THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE WELL AWARE OF IT WITHOUT DOING A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I THINK THAT'S HOW THE LEASE SHOULD BE DONE. SO WE HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY. AND THEN ALSO TO REITERATE THE THE TERMS OF THE LEASE. IF THEY SHOULD BE 20 YEARS WITH THREE, IS IT IS IT 310 YEAR RENEWAL TERMS? I BELIEVE LIKE AND LIKE I DID I DID TELL YOU, BOB, I TRY TO BE FULL, TRANSPARENT. I KNOW IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SO HAPPENED TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IF A BUILDING'S TIED UP FOR 50, 50 YEARS AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE. AND MY PERSPECTIVE IS I HAVE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? I'M NEUTRAL. I'M ON PROJECT LEFT SIDE. I'M ALSO ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE. MY CONSTITUENTS VOTE ME IN EVERY FOUR YEARS, AND I TRY TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND STUFF AS WELL. AND ALSO WHAT I WAS TOLD FROM PRIOR CITY MANAGER THAT IT'D BE A FIVE YEAR TERM WITH RENEWAL OPTIONS. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT IDEAL FOR YOUR SITUATION, BUT IT'S THAT FINE BALANCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC THAT I REPRESENT AND SERVE, AND ALSO THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I VOTE ON FOR THE PUBLIC AND TRY TO REPRESENT THEM. BUT IF NO BOARD MEMBER WANTS TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE TWO THINGS, THEN YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER JOB. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THEM. AND I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE DEFINITE LANGUAGE REGARDING SUBLEASING. WE FELL INTO A LITTLE BIT OF PROBLEMS IN THE PAST, WHERE THE CITY WAS NOT EVEN AWARE THAT CITY PROPERTY WAS BEING SUBLEASED. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT IS DONE. AND I DO AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BECOME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE IS A SUBLEASE THAT'S IN PROGRESS OR BEING DONE BETWEEN LYFT AND ANOTHER ENTITY AT THAT BUILDING. SO I AGREE, AND I THINK THAT THE THE MOTION OR THE LEASE 
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SHOULD BE AMENDED TO STATE. SO THANK YOU. I COMMENT. YEAH. OKAY. SO ON THE, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR AND PRETTY PROTECTED AS TO WHAT CAN CAN BE THERE. AND HONESTLY, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'RE THERE TO OPERATE. I'M NOT THERE TO SUBLEASE TO OUTSIDE CHARACTERS THAT DON'T HAVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO DO THAT. SO WHAT I WOULD THINK ON THAT, COMMISSIONER GINOBLI, IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SPEED AS WELL TO, TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE NEED TO GET IN PLACE. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT INCLUDE THE NAACP, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE HERITAGE ASSOCIATION? DOES THAT WHO WHERE DO WE HOW DO YOU WANT TO BALANCE THAT OUT? I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE ANY SUBLEASE. I KNOW PERSONALLY. AND AND MY OPINION IS IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO SUBLEASE IT, I THINK THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE AWARE OF IT. I KNOW IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S I KNOW IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT THE LANGUAGE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND FOR ME TO SUPPORT A MOTION UP HERE, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          LEE SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUE, AND I KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PROJECT LIFT PER SE, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD. YEAH. I MEAN, I, I, WE'RE PRETTY ROBUST PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 17 YEARS OF OPERATIONS. WE HAVE IMPECCABLE AUDITS IN 1990S. 
          YEAH. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE FOR THIS PROGRAM TO KEEP IT GOING EVERY, EVERY YEAR IS RIGHT AROUND $1.5 MILLION. THAT MEANS AT THE END OF 20 YEARS, AS I TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT COMMISSIONER REED, IS WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER $30 MILLION INVESTED BY THE TIME WE GET TO 20 YEARS. RIGHT? SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF, OF ABILITY FOR US TO HAVE THE SECURITY OF BEING ABLE TO BE ON A LEASE FOR, FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO HAVE A TREMENDOUSLY DIFFICULT TIME RAISING MONEY FOR SUPPORT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, TO RAISE SUPPORT GRANTS, ASK THESE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME. WHAT IS YOUR SUSTAINABILITY? AND IF I'VE GOT A FIVE YEAR LEASE I LIKE, WE MIGHT AS WELL TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S IT COULDN'T HAPPEN. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, BUT EMPLOYER PART PARTNERSHIPS. IF I'VE GOT EMPLOYER PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE SUSTAINING AND GETTING THE JOBS FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND THAT WE'RE NOT, WE ONLY HAVE A FIVE YEAR WINDOW AND WE CAN BE REMOVED AT ANY POINT. LIKE IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD WORK. PROGRAM REVENUE IS ANOTHER ISSUE IS WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ACROSS THE BOARD, WHETHER THAT'S INDIVIDUAL DONORS, FAMILY FOUNDATIONS, PHILANTHROPISTS IN GENERAL, BUT JUST GENERAL, GENERAL REVENUE GENERATION FOR US, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS OR PROGRAM PROCESSES. THE REALITY IS I GOT TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY, YOU KNOW, AND TO ME, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT 20, 20 YEARS, I'M NOT ASKING FOR 99 YEARS ON A, ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. I'M LIKE, COME ON. I MEAN, THIS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. WELL, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. WOULD IT BE THE SAME IF YOU HAD LIKE, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ASKING FOR 20 YEARS ON THE FIRST TERM. WOULD IT BE EQUIVALENT TO THE SAME IF IT WAS FIVE WITH THREE RENEWALS THAT BUILD THAT? AND THEN LIKE, IS IT PERCEIVED THE SAME? IS IT PERCEIVED DIFFERENTLY? I KNOW, I KNOW, I WANT TO I'M SORRY THE COMMISSIONER READ IT IS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT FIRST TERM SO THAT I CAN GET OUT RUNNING. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY I'VE ALREADY MADE REQUESTS FOR STATE APPROPRIATIONS TO GO INTO THIS PROJECT. I'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY MADE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER OPERATING BUDGET IN PLACE. AND OH, BY THE WAY, I'M, I'M RESPONSIBLE OR PROJECT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING. LIKE EVERYTHING, NOT NOT SOME THINGS, BUT EVERYTHING. LIKE ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH THAT BUILDING WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING MAINTENANCE WISE GOES WRONG WITH THAT BUILDING. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ELECTRICITY, THE WATER, THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT'S RELATED TO THAT. WE'RE TALKING OVER $100,000 A YEAR JUST IN OPERATIONAL FACILITIES COSTS, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT TO CHARGE BACK TO THE NAA, CP P OR THE HERITAGE ASSOCIATION, OR WHOEVER ELSE IS WANTING TO, TO, TO JOIN IN OR THE BUSINESS. INCUBATIONS. THAT'S NOT A THERE'S NO CHARGE. I GOTTA I HAVE TO DO THAT. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY IN PLACE, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU'RE DEAD IN THE WATER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A SMALL PRICE TO PAY. HONESTLY, AT THIS POINT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PUT PUT 
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IN THE THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS, WHICH DID NOT COST THE CITY ANY ANYTHING. IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF RENDERINGS. WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THE, ALL THE STAFFING WE'RE HIRING FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO, WHICH IS PROBABLY A FAR CRY FROM SOME OF THE OTHER LEASES THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE. SO I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT OR I THINK IT'S IT STINKS THAT I MIGHT BE BEING COMPARED TO THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO STAY. THIS IS MY COMMUNITY HERE FOR 50 YEARS. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. IT WAS JUST ON THE SUBLEASE THOUGH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. YEAH. I WAS TALKING THE 20 YEARS, I THINK I SWITCHED GEARS BECAUSE IT'S YOU DID. AND I WAS ABOUT TO ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT I WAS ADDRESSING WAS THE SUBLEASE. AND THIS WOULD BE NOT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIFT. IT'S GOING FORWARD. CITY PROPERTY. WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S BEING SUBLET. RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS ADDRESSING WAS THE SUBLEASE. THE CITY MANAGER IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF GOING BACK AND FORTH. I THINK IT'S A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM IS WHAT I HEARD YOU MIGHT SAY ON IT. IT SHOULD BE ON IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE. WE DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT AFTER A SUBLEASE HAS BEEN GIVEN THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FIND OUT CITY PROPERTY HAS A SUBLEASE. SO EVERYTHING THAT I WAS SAYING WAS REALLY ABOUT THE SUBLEASE, NOT ABOUT THE YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO ADDRESS MAYBE A 15 YEAR KIND OF SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE 15 YEAR WITHIN RENEWABLES. I SEE BOB SHAKING HIS HEAD IS IT IS. I JUST WANT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND IT TOO. SO IT'S WELL UNDER INDUSTRY STANDARD. YEAH. I WAS TOLD THE SUBLEASE STUFF IS EASY TO FIX. JUST SWITCH IT FROM CITY MANAGER TO CITY COMMISSION. SO THAT'S EASY TO FIX THAT AS AS OH, SORRY FOR THE SUBLEASE STUFF. SO THAT'S AN EASY FIX AS FAR AS THE TERMS AND IT BEING THE LENGTH. IS THAT LIKE THE GRANTS? LIKE I JUST, I GUESS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE AS WELL. BOB. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT THIS IS GOING TO COST US, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO $2 MILLION A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION OF THIS. SO I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME. RAISING MONEY IS NOT EASY. AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE THE ACTUALLY THE FIRST QUESTION ANY FINANCE DEPARTMENT ASKS WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING FOR GRANTS IS WHAT, HOW SUSTAINABLE ARE YOU? RIGHT. AND IF I SAY TO THEM, HEY, WE HAVE THIS LEASE IS WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING, AND THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE LEASE TERMS, THEN THEY SEE FIVE YEARS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT ANY FUNDS IN. AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE GRANT UNDERWRITING PROCESS, RIGHT? IT'S GRANTS INDIVIDUAL OR PRIVATE INVESTORS. IS IT PRIVATE INVESTOR? I DON'T CALL MY DONORS AREN'T PRIVATE INVESTORS BUT DONORS. THEIR DONORS. AND IT'S THEIR HARD, HARD EARNED MONEY THAT THEY HAVE EARNED OVER THEIR LIFETIME. 
          AND THEY'RE TRUSTING US TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT WITH THAT. IF I, IF I GET MULTI-YEAR GRANTS OR MULTI YEAR COMMITMENTS OR EVEN SINGLE YEAR COMMITMENTS, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THEIR INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THAT AREA. SO FOLLOW UP QUESTION WITH, WITH THE, THE DONORS THAT DONATE MONEY ARE THESE DONOR DONORS THAT ARE IN THE TRADE INDUSTRY PER SE, OR LIKE THE PRIVATE DONORS? IT'S ALL ACROSS THE BOARD. YEAH. I MEAN, WE HAVE PROBABLY 6 OR 7 LEGS OF A, I CALL IT LIKE A LEG OF A STOOL, YOU KNOW, WHERE HERE'S WHERE ALL OUR DONATIONS COME FROM AND, AND HOW IT ALL HAPPENS. AND WITH THOSE PRIVATE DONORS, WOULD THEY GET LIKE THE, THE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, BUT LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE THESE KIDS GRADUATE AND STUFF, THEY'RE MEANT TO GO INTO LIKE THEIR INDUSTRY, I GUESS, AND MAYBE WORK FOR THEM, INTERNSHIP FOR THEM AFTER THEY. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S IF THE, IF THE JOB FITS THE KID AND THE, AND THERE'S HAPPENS TO BE A INDUSTRY PARTNER. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YEAH. SO YOUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING MAYBE IN SPECIAL EVENTS, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY GET A SPECIAL TREATMENT. THEY JUST IF THE IF A KID WANTS TO BE A ROOFER AND THIS IS A ROOFING COMPANY AND THAT MATCHES AND THE CULTURE IS GOOD, THEN WE HELP CONNECT THAT. DOT OKAY. IF THERE ARE WELDERS, SAME THING BOAT BOATING, BOAT BUILDING, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, CARPENTRY, CONSTRUCTION, SAME STUFF. OKAY. THERE'S NO. YEAH. 
          YOU FIGURED I'D ASK COMMISSIONER RICH. YOU HAD A COMMENT? YEAH. I MEAN, I WISH THIS DISCUSSION WAS TAKING PLACE IN THE CONTEXT OF A MOTION, BUT HAVING RUN A NONPROFIT FOR 30 YEARS, NOWHERE NEAR THE SCALE OF PROJECT LIFT, AND WE DID FINALLY GET TO SORT OF YOUR TYPE OF PROVEN RECORD, FIVE YEARS IS THE BLINK OF AN EYE. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING IF ALL YOU CAN DO IS PROMISE FIVE YEARS, YOU CANNOT GET THE BIG DONORS, THE BIG PRIVATE DONORS. 
          YOU CANNOT DO STRATEGIC PLANNING. HE HAS DESERVED. HE HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO SHARE THIS COMMITMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY OF 20 YEARS. IF HE TOTALLY SCREWS IT UP, WE CAN TERMINATE IT. BUT THAT HIS RECORD HAS INDICATED THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL. THE SAILING CENTER. FINALLY, WE FINALLY ENDED UP WITH 30 YEARS. WE REALIZED WE NEEDED 30 YEARS 
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TO MAKE THE PLANS NECESSARY AND RAISE THE FUNDS THAT WE NEEDED TO. SO I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THIS WAS ONLY 20 YEARS. I WOULD HAVE NO INTEREST AT ALL IN SHORTENING THIS TERM. 
          IT'S UNDER AN INDUSTRY STANDARD. YEAH, YEAH. WHAT WAS, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING, WHAT WAS THE SAILING CENTER'S INITIAL TERMS? WELL, THE INITIAL TERMS WHEN WE HAD NOTHING, IT WAS FIVE YEARS AT A TIME. BUT. AND DID YOU RAISE MONEY. DID WE? WE THE SAILING CENTER PAID FOR EVERYTHING OURSELVES. YEAH. THE BUILDING, THE INSTRUCTORS JUST SIMILAR. BUT WE NEVER GOT A GRANT FOR $10 MILLION. BUT NO, WE'RE VERY SIMILAR SITUATION IN, IN BEARING THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FUNDING AND RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION AND AND THE REASON I WAS DOING IT THIS WAY, COMMISSIONER RICH, BEFORE WE GOT A MOTION WAS SO WE COULD DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD. A MOTION IS MADE, AND THEN THE PUBLIC WOULD COMMENT NOT ONLY ON THE MOTION BUT ALSO THE DISCUSSION. 
          WE HAD TO SAY, YES, I AGREE WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL UP THERE. I LIKE THAT, I DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          SO I FIGURED WE'D DISCUSS IT FIRST. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BOB OR STAFF REGARDING THIS, OR ARE WE GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, WITH REGARD TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 43, 2026, LEE, HAVE YOU READ THE RESOLUTION ALREADY? YES, YES. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS. RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED TO US AND AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. 
          WE'LL GET THERE. YEAH. NO, WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT ON. SO SO THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 2026 REGARDING PROJECT LIFT LEASE AGREEMENT AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. I SEE YOUR LIGHTS ON AFTER THE FACT. 
          RICH. WELL, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. CLERK IF SHE WOULD ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS IN SECTION 11. THAT LANGUAGE BE ADDED INCLUDE CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM. IF A SUBLEASE. IF A SUBLEASE SIGNS AN AGREEMENT. TWO THINGS ACTUALLY THAT MR. BAGGETT HELPED ME WAS I WOULD APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE. I WOULD SUGGEST JUST REPLACING WHERE IT SAYS CITY MANAGER AND PUT CITY COMMISSION AND SECTION SO THAT THE CITY SO IT WOULD READ WOULD BE AWARE AND SO WOULD THE CONSENT OF THE CITY COMMISSION. NO. WELL, NO, I WOULD HAVE TO BE A MOTION WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM. WELL, IF IF YOU HAVE TO GET WRITTEN CONSENT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, IT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM. YEAH. YES. I, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT WHEN WE'VE DONE ASSIGNMENTS OF LIKE WHEN WE'VE DONE ASSIGNMENTS OF THE MARINA, IT HAD TO COME BEFORE YOU AND YOU HAD TO DO A RESOLUTION WHEN THEY SIGNED IT TO A NEW COMPANY BECAUSE THEY HAD LIKE A 50, 60 YEAR LEASE AND THEY'VE ASSIGNED, THEY WERE IN TEN, 20 YEARS IN AND THEY ASSIGNED IT TO A NEW COMPANY. SO THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT. THIS IS JUST THIS IS JUST HE'S RENTING OUT ONE LITTLE OFFICE. I KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M SAYING THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE'VE ALSO REQUIRED THAT TO COME TO YOU. MR. MAYOR. COMMISSIONER, I'D LIKE TO ACCEPT THE I HAVE I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WHICH WAS SECONDED BY MR. YOGI, AND I'D LIKE TO ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL RICH. SO IN SECTION 11.1, IT WOULD BE. SECOND SENTENCE OTHER THAN SUCH AS LEASE SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO ASSIGNMENT OR SUBJECT. SUBLET BY THE LESSEE WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE STUART CITY COMMISSION. AND SUCH CONSENT SHALL NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD, CONDITIONED OR DELAYED. GOOD. I'LL SECOND THE AMENDED MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          STEVE. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 43 2026 REGARDING PROJECT LIFT LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CHANGES FOR SUBLEASING FOR IT TO COME IN FRONT OF THE CITY BOARD FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIOVI. NOW, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION? YES, MAYOR, I HAVE JAMES CHRISTIE. WELCOME, JAMES. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK. NO, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER REED, AND ALSO YOU GUYS WERE EXPEDIENT ABOUT COMING IN THE COMMUNITY AND FIXING THE DOCK ON SMITH TURNER PARK. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
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IT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE. RIGHT NOW I'M JUST EXTREMELY DISGUSTED, EXTREMELY DISGUSTED. 
          LET ME MAKE SURE I GOT MY TIMER HERE. WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? ATTORNEY BAIRD SAYS THAT EITHER THE CITY COMMISSIONER OR PROJECT LIFT CAN GET OUT OF THE AGREEMENT. EITHER ONE. WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY? WHAT ABOUT IF PROJECT LIFT COMES IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T LIKE IT? WE HAVE ISSUES. WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BEING ABLE TO STOP SOME, BEING ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO STOP IT? THAT FACILITY IS 100FT FROM MY PROPERTY AND HE'S THROWING THAT. IT'S 50FT FROM MY GRANDMOTHER'S PROPERTY. IT'S ABOUT 60FT FROM MY GREAT AUNT'S PROPERTY. WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF AND NEW STUFF. COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE PERPLEXED ABOUT SOME THINGS YOU JUST HEARD, YOU THINK THE COMMUNITY HEARD ANY OF THIS? YOU THINK THE COMMUNITY HEARD ABOUT THEM BEING ABLE TO LEASE THE PROPERTY NOW TO ANYBODY? AND I GUARANTEE YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK, IF WE SEE ANYBODY GO IN THAT BUILDING, THAT'S THE NAA, CP OR ANYBODY, WE'RE GOING TO EXAMINE QUID PRO QUO. WE'RE GOING TO QUESTION THAT. WE GET NEW STUFF EVERY DAY ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO. IT'S 20 YEARS NOW INSTEAD OF FIVE. EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED. THAT BUILDING WAS PROPOSED FOR OUR AREA TO HELP EAST STEWART. HE HAS EXTRACTED ALL THAT $11 MILLION FROM EAST STEWART. NOTHING'S GOING TO GO IN THAT COMMUNITY EXCEPT TRAFFIC AND POTENTIAL TROUBLE. 
          THIS IS EXTREMELY DISGUSTING FOR ME TONIGHT TO HEAR ALL OF THIS NEW STUFF AND TO KNOW HOW TO HOW TO PROPERLY CAME. I GOT NEWS REPORTS, I GOT CITY WEBSITES STATING THE BENEFIT FOR EASTER. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY OF THAT. WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY OF THAT. AND THE MONEY WAS PUT IN THERE. THE GRANTS WERE GOTTEN OFF THE BACKS OF EAST STEWART, AND YOU GO SHOW THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. YOU WON'T SEE ONE BLACK FACE ON THERE. 
          THE BOARD, YOU WON'T SEE ONE BLACK FACE, BUT THE BLACK PEOPLE CAN GIVE UP THE PROPERTY, DEAL WITH THE ISSUES, AND THEN WE COULD BE PLASTERED ALL OVER ALL THE AND AND WITH 51%. AND THE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN CAN'T EVEN COME OUT OF EAST STEWART. THAT'S A SHAME. THAT'S DISGUSTING. THE COMMUNITY, SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE VERY UPSET. THANK YOU JAMES. 
          NEXT I HAVE CODY JOHNSON. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. WELL, I'VE I'VE SPOKE WITH BOB. I'VE SPOKE WITH THE NAA CP. I'VE DID MY HOMEWORK ABOUT PROJECT LIFT. I VISITED THE FACILITY AND I BELIEVE IT COULD BE A, A TOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD BACK WORKFORCE, THE BUSINESS INCUBATION THAT'S I KNOW IT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION DEEPLY AMONGST THE COMMUNITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, INCUBATION STARTS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES BEING THERE. 
          INCUBATION DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, START JUST BY HAVING A SPACE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST OCCUPY IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TOOLS THERE. AS FAR AS THE SUBLEASING, THE SUBLEASING, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE NAA, CP AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE THERE. HOPEFULLY THESE ORGANIZATIONS WILL, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY IN THE BEST OF WAYS, WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE COMMUNITY, BOB HAS ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN ACTIVE. HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN TO MEETINGS WITH AN ADVISORY BOARD OF, YOU KNOW, MY PEERS AND, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL RESIDENTS OF EAST STEWART. HE'S COMMUNICATED A LOT OF THINGS. HE'S BEEN TRANSPARENT. AND MY PERSONAL TAKE IS I FEEL LIKE IT CAN BE A VERY USEFUL TOOL FOR A VERY BLIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE 20 YEAR LEASE AND THE DOLLAR A YEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S COMPLETELY DISCRETIONARY TO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, I MEAN, CAMPBELL RICH, HE SAYS HE'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS, THE NONPROFIT BUSINESS. I'VE VENTURED INTO THAT AVENUE. AND I DO REALIZE THAT IT TAKES SOME TIME. YOU KNOW, A NORMAL BUSINESS IS JUST FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S AN LLC OR ANYTHING TO 
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START SEEING THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE PROFIT OR ANYTHING CHANGING, YOU KNOW, A NONPROFIT IS, IS STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRITICS OF THE 20 YEAR LEASE, YOU KNOW, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE INDUSTRY MORE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST HOW YOU CAN SAY IT JUST COMES WITH THE TERRITORY. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. CODY. I WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT PUSHED FOR THE NAA CP TO BE A SUBLEASE. DURING THE DISCUSSION OF PROJECT LIFT SINCE MY TENURE UP HERE, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT JIMMY HAD A SPOT TO STILL HOST HIS COMMUNITY EVENTS. I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF IT. DO A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, THAT'S ALL. SO THANK YOU CODY. THANK YOU. CODY. JIMMY SMITH. WELCOME, JIMMY. 
          DON'T TRIP OVER THAT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD. I JUST WANT TO SAY TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT LIFT. I HEAR CONCERNS IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CONCERNS. IT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING BUILT ANYWHERE. THAT'S ALL ACROSS THE WORLD. AND A LOT OF TIME WE DON'T ALL SEE VISIONS THE SAME. 
          AND SOMETIMES IT TAKE TIME FOR A VISION TO COME ACROSS AND THEN YOU REALIZE, WOW, OKAY, IT MAKES SENSE. I'VE BEEN HERE AT MARTIN COUNTY ALL THESE YEARS. WHEN IT WAS 80 BUSINESS, I WAS A KID. I WALKED THE STREETS. MY FATHER WAS AN ENTREPRENEUR. MY FATHER HAS HELPED SO MANY GREAT THINGS IN THIS COUNTY. SCHOOL BOARD HELP PEOPLE, GOT GREAT JOBS, CAREER JOBS. AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE MAYBE NOT, DON'T UNDERSTAND THINGS AND DON'T SEE IT. BUT I LOOKED AT IN EAST STEWART, BEING OVER THERE OCCUPIED THAT BUILDING, A RUN DOWN BUILDING. MR. GARY DID THE BEST HE CAN OVER THERE, ALRIGHT. AND WE HAD ALL THOSE THINGS. WE HAD BUSINESSES THERE, WE HAD A CAR WASH, WE HAD ALL THAT STUFF THERE AND DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO SUPPORT IT. ONCE THEY KNOCKED DOWN THE OTHER PART OF CHEROKEE, OVER 100 FAMILIES THAT HAD GOT THIS RELOCATED, THEY LOST THAT THEIR REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO HELP FUND IT. I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT AN INCUBATOR IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING WE NEED THOSE, BUT YOU CANNOT GET THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE FUNDS, OUR KIDS NEED AN EDUCATION. WE NEED SKILLS. OUR KIDS NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND LEARN HOW TO RAISE MONEY AND MAKE MONEY AND HAVE A CAREER JOB. YOU CAN. WE HAVE A FEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE LEFT THERE. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THERE'S NOT ENOUGH REVENUE CIRCULATING. I REMEMBER IN THE YEARS BEFORE, BACK IN 1968, MONEY CIRCULATE THREE TIMES BEFORE EVEN I GET OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE MONEY DON'T EVEN LAST IN THE COMMUNITY. THE FASTEST PEOPLE GET A CHECK THE FIRST. 
          IT'S GOING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WITH THIS NEW PROJECT WITH PROJECT LIFT, WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF IT. AND THE VISION YOU'LL SEE LATER. WE GOT PALM BEACH COUNTY. WE GOT ALL KIND OF KIND OF BEGGING FOR PROJECT LIFT TO COME IN. I WENT TO THE MEETING PALM BEACH, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY WENT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROMOTING ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE IN EVERY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE KIDS PARENTS CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO COLLEGE. OKAY, HERE GO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS TO GET THE SAME DEGREE, SAME DEGREE, AND THEN BE ABLE TO HELP THEM FIND A JOB. AND THEN THEY AIN'T GOT TO PAY. 
          THEY GETTING PAID TO LEARN. WHO IN THE HECK WOULD TURN DOWN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MY CHILD TO GET A CAREER JOB AND GET PAID, AND THEN THAT THE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD SHOES, THE PARENTS CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THEM NICE THINGS. THESE CHILDREN CAN PAY FOR THEIR OWN STUFF. THEY CAN LEARN HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE TODAY AND WE SAY COMMUNITY. YEAH, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE REJECTION OF SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THIS OR DON'T LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT THAT'S THAT'S NORMAL. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE BECAUSE NEGATIVE, MAKE POSITIVE LOOK GOOD AND POSITIVE, MAKE NEGATIVE LOOK GOOD, BAD. SO IN OUR MY CONSENT TO YOU IS THAT MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE GAIL GOLDIE. WELCOME, GAIL. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS GAIL GOLDIE 1153 NORTHWEST 12TH TERRACE IN STUART. AGAIN, I'M NOT A CITY RESIDENT, BUT I AM A COMMUNITY. I AM PART OF THE COUNTY AND I TAKE JUST AS MUCH PRIDE AND INTEREST IN THE CITY AS IF I LIVED HERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK PROJECT LIFT IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PROGRAM. I'M GLAD THAT THE CITY IS SUPPORTING PROJECT LIFT IN ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN. MY CONCERN IS FOR PROJECT LIFT AND THE LEASE THAT IS BEFORE YOU. I'VE BEEN HERE QUITE A WHILE AND I HAVE SEEN LEASES THAT THE 
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CITY HAS GIVEN OUT, AND SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE LEASE WAS GIVEN. AND WHAT HAPPENED? ONE WAS THE PELICAN, WHERE THE PELICAN, THE PEOPLE WHO HAD THE PELICAN HAD THE LEASE. THEY CAME UP HERE AND WERE LOOKING FOR CHANGES TO THE LEASE, SWEARING THAT THEY WOULD NOT SELL THE LEASE OR THEY WOULD NOT SELL THE BUILDING OR DO WHATEVER IT WAS. I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE LEASED. THEY COULD JUST SELL THE LEASE. AND LO AND BEHOLD, THE COMMISSIONERS GAVE THEM WHAT THEY WANTED. AND TWO MONTHS LATER, WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY SOLD THE LEASE. THEY SOLD THE LEASE TO THE HUDSON AND THE HUDSON, TOOK THAT LEASE AND BUILT THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE. 
          AND AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS THE FLAGLER CENTER. FLAGLER CENTER WAS LEASED TO THE MARTIN DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET. AND WHAT IS WHAT WERE THEY DOING? SUBLEASING. AND THAT MONEY. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY PAID $70,000 A YEAR TO DOWNTOWN STUART TO HELP RUN IT, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ENDED. BUT IT HAS NOT ENDED AS YET. AND THAT'S PROBABLY TEN YEARS. SO I WANT TO SEE THE PROJECT LIFT BE A HUGE SUCCESS, AND I HOPE THAT PROVISIONS CAN STILL BE MADE TO THIS LEASE SO THAT THINGS THAT ARE DISCUSSED WITH HELPING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SAFE AND SOUND FOR THE CITY AND PROJECT LIFT THAT NO ONE SUFFERS EXTREME, EXTREME CHARGES AND COSTS. LET'S JUST PROJECT OUT 50 YEARS OR 30 YEARS. I WON'T BE HERE. MANY OF US WON'T BE HERE. BUT IF PROJECT LIFT, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN IN PROJECT LIFT WERE TO DISAPPEAR AND COULDN'T FUNCTION THERE ANY LONGER, WHAT WOULD THEN HAPPEN TO THAT PROPERTY ACCORDING TO THE LEASE? COULD THAT LEASE BE SOLD? COULD THAT LEASE BE TURNED OVER TO SOMEONE ELSE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF PROVISIONS IN THERE. THAT PROJECT LIFT DOESN'T RUN INTO ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN STOP FROM HAPPENING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LEE, CAN THIS LEASE BE SOLD? THERE IS AN ASSIGNMENT AND SUBLET, WHICH IS SECTION 11, WHICH WE ARE. FIRST OFF, IT IT IT, IT CAN'T BE WITH WITH THE FIRST FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THE RESTRICTIONS WE KIND OF HAVE THEM IN. BUT ONCE THE FIVE YEARS ELAPSES AND THEY CAN CLOSE OUT THE PROGRAM, THEN THAT RESTRICTION CAN BE RELEASED BY THE STATE FROM THE GRANT PROGRAM. BASICALLY, YES. WE HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT AND SUBLET SECTION IN SECTION 11 SO IT CAN BE ASSIGNED OR SUBLET. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SUBLET. WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT A SIGN, BUT A SIGN IS IN THE SAME SECTION. SO OKAY, SO IT SO IT COULD BE ASSIGNED TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN WITH OUR APPROVAL. YES. WITH OUR COMMISSIONER. CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THE FIVE YEARS IS, IS ALL THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THE REPORTING, I THINK OUR LEASE AGREEMENT SAYS WE'RE CONTINUING THE REPORTING BEYOND THAT BETWEEN PROJECT LIFT AND THE CITY. SO BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD. MR. ZAKIA WANTED MORE THAN 20 YEARS. SO I YOU KNOW, I WENT BACK AND FORTH MULTIPLE TIMES BETWEEN HE AND HIS LAWYER. AND, YOU KNOW, I STARTED OUT AT FIVE YEARS. 
          YEAH. BUT HE MADE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT TO ME THAT TO PRESENT THE 20 YEARS TO YOU, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT I HEARD. SO THEY ALSO WANTED THE RENEWALS TO BE MUCH MORE HARDER TO NON RENEW IT. BUT I DID INSIST, AFTER 20 YEARS THAT WE HAVE A NON-RENEWAL FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON AT ALL, AS LONG AS YOU GIVE 18 MONTHS NOTICE BEFORE THE TERMINATION OF THE LEASE OR THE EXPIRATION OF THE LEASE, I SHOULD SAY SO AT 20 YEARS, 18 MONTHS BEFORE THAT EXPIRES, THE CITY COMMISSION CAN DECIDE AT THAT POINT, DO WE WANT A NON RENEW IT FOR SOME OTHER REASON? AND I WAS HONEST WITH BOB THAT HE AND I ARE GOING TO BE GONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW. AND SO IT'LL BE SUCCESSORS AND WE MAY BE AROUND, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE IN THE SAME CAPACITY THAT OLD. I, I THINK IT'S I'M JUST THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE, WHETHER YOU GUYS BELIEVE THAT OR NOT. I HAVE GOOD HEALTH. I HOPE I AM STILL HERE, BUT WE WON'T BE SITTING HERE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'LL BE IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. SO I, I INSISTED ON 20 YEARS SO THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK IN A LEASE FOR 50 YEARS. RIGHT. SO I, I, I MADE THAT. SO THEN WE DO HAVE 
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310 YEAR RENEWALS, BUT AT EACH OF THOSE RENEWALS, 18 MONTHS BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A REASON AS LONG AS YOU GIVE 18 MONTHS NOTICE. SO THAT'S WHY I PUT THAT IN THERE AS A PROTECTION, BECAUSE BOB WANTED 50 YEARS BASICALLY. SO BUT I WENT FROM FIVE. BUT THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE. AND AGAIN, WE WERE BRINGING THIS TO YOU. YOU STILL HAD TO APPROVE IT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE STILL DISCUSSING IT NOW. COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER JOB, DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT OR DO YOU WANT TO? OH, NO. FINISH PUBLIC PUBLIC FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL. MARY, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU HAD YOUR LINE. OKAY. 
          YES. SO WITH REGARD TO SECTION 11.1, WHICH GOES TO THE ASSIGNMENT AND THE SUBLET IS IS IT BETTER TO NOW AT LEAST CHARACTERIZE THE TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS AND ALWAYS SAID. 
          PLACES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CUSTOMER PRACTICE AND PROGRAM DELIVERY THAT THEY COULD HAVE IT WITH MISSION ALIGNED PARTNERS, VOLUNTEERS OR COLLABORATORS. SHOULD WE PUT AN EXAMPLE SUCH AS SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WHOEVER THE IS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE THE IDEA WAS, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WE'RE LOOKING TO. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY THOSE, BUT IT COULD BE INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY QUESTION WHEN THE THE SOME A GROUP LIKE THE N DOUBLE, A, CP OR SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH PROJECT LIFT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WHAT WE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A, A SUBLEASE WITH THEM. I'M THINKING IF THAT IF WE SHOULD JUST PUT THAT IN THERE NOW AND GET IT OVER WITH SO THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION. I KNOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE. 
          QUESTION IF IT WAS LEFT UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER APPROVAL, BUT WE'RE SAYING THEY'RE COMING IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT IF WE HAVE A GOOD PARAMETER OF WHERE WE'RE GOING AND AND EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE GOING TOWARDS THE NORTH STAR, THEN I THINK THAT IT'S BETTER REGARDLESS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. BUT YEAH, BUT LIMITED BUT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT? YES, SIR, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE OPTIONS FOR, FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO COME IN IN PARTNERSHIP. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME MUTUAL AGREEMENT RELATED TO IT THOUGH. 
          LIKE I CAN'T JUST HAVE ANY ANYBODY JUST WALKING IN AND SAYING, HEY, I'M GOING TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SAY, I WANT TO SUBLEASE PART OF A PROJECT LIFT. ALL IN FAVOR. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M STUCK WITH WITH A NON-CONFORMING SUBLEASE. THAT'S GOTTA, I GOTTA HAVE THAT PROTECTION IN THERE. I THINK THAT WE'RE BEING MORE THAN REASONABLE HERE WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ENGAGED PROPERLY. OKAY. CAN I CONTINUE THAT BEFORE MR. LEE ANSWERS, MR. LEE, MAY I? OKAY, SO I AGREE WITH THAT. SO PINOL KNOWS THIS BECAUSE SHE'S DONE SOME AFFIDAVIT, NOT AFFIDAVITS, APPENDICES BEFORE WITH DIFFERENT THINGS. SO MAYBE AS A PART OF THIS LEASE, WE NEED TO HAVE AN APPENDIX. MR. BAGGETT THAT SAYS IT WOULD BE IN THIS FORM IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SUBLEASE WITH YOU. AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH, OR THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE THAT THEY WOULD IT SAYS IT IN HERE, BUT IT'S NOT ITEMIZED. AND IF WE HAVE AN APPENDIX THAT SAYS, ANYBODY WHO'S SUBLEASING WITH YOU MEETS THESE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN HERE, BUT LAID OUT IN A FORMAT THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. LIKE I'M RAISING A LOT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THESE OUTCOMES THAT I'M, THAT I'M REQUIRED TO DO IF I'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO, IF I HAVE TO HOLD THE HAND OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT PROJECT LIFT IS DOING OR ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND I'VE GOT TO FLIP FLIP THE BILL FOR IT. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK I NEED TO HAVE SOME. NO, NOT YOU. THEY HAVE TO DO IT. BUT WHEN WE WHEN THEY COME IN, WHETHER CITY MANAGER OR US, WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE ONE, TWO, THREE AND THEY'RE EASY TO THERE. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE APPROVED. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, I YOU'RE BASED UPON A US MAKING A DECISION AS TO WHAT THAT CRITERIA CAN BE STANDING HERE IN A COMMISSION MEETING, IT'S ISN'T IT IN THIS AGREEMENT NOW IT IT SAID THAT THEY SHOULD BE MISSION ALIGNED. MISSION ALIGNED? YES. YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING YOU WANTED TO GIVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA, AN EXAMPLE OF A. NO. WE JUST PUT THE SAME THINGS HERE. MISSION ALIGNED. DAH DAH DAH. ABSOLUTELY. ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE JOBS, ASSIST YOU IN PRODUCING JOBS IS WHAT I HEARD. YOU WANT IT TO BE DEFINITIVE IF YOU IF I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO MISSION ALIGNED SUFFICES, BUT LEGAL WANTS TO COME IN. OKAY, I WOULD AGREE. I 
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IF YOU LOOK AT 11.1, THE FIRST SENTENCE, THE LESSEE MAY GRANT LICENSES SHARED USE TO MISSION ALIGNED PARTNERS. SO PROJECT LIFT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION WHO THEY WANT TO SUBLEASE TO, AND THEN THEY BRING IT TO US. AND SO I DON'T THINK THIS IT'S MY OPINION THAT THIS THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS IN HERE, THAT NOT ANYBODY CAN COME IN AND SAY, I DEMAND TO BE IN HIS BE A SUBLESSEE AT PROJECT LIFT. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO BE AGREEABLE TO AND BRING TO US THE CITY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, MR. ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY, IS THAT LICENSES AND SHARED USE DIFFERENT FROM AN ASSIGNMENT OR SUBLET? BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE ASSIGNMENT AND THE SUBLET SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE THE GRANT LICENSES AND SHARED USE TO MISSION ALIGNED PARTNERS SHOULD BE DONE BY PROJECT LIFT. CAN WE DISTINGUISH THOSE? OR MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE COMPLETELY SET APART BECAUSE IT SAYS OTHER THAN SUCH. SO THEY'RE ALREADY SET APART IF WE WANT TO CHANGE LICENSES AND SHARE LEASE TO JUST SUBLET. I MEAN, I, I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS MY LANGUAGE OR YOUR LANGUAGE. SO SHE'S SAYING LESSEE MAY GRANT LICENSES OR SHARED USE. I GUESS TECHNICALLY THAT MIGHT NOT BE A SUBLESSEE. RIGHT. IT WOULDN'T BE. THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SUBLEASE ON IT, BUT IT LET'S I REMEMBER THERE'S AN EXAMPLE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LICENSURE WITH PENN FOSTER, WHICH IS OUR LICENSE, LICENSING, LICENSING, LICENSING ORGANIZATION FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA PROGRAM. RIGHT. I HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN PARTNERSHIP. SO IF THAT LANGUAGE IS ELIMINATED, THEN YOU COULD COME IN AND SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO USE THEM. YOU HAVE TO USE SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY. I THINK THAT'S GOOD AND THAT'S GOOD. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE SUBLET PARTNERSHIPS THAT I'M HAVE TO HAVE THERE, LIKE PLATFORMS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ONLINE, THAT KIND OF THING. SO IS THAT. THANK YOU, VICE COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOUR QUESTIONS, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING SUFFICES WHEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND NOBODY SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS OR WE SHOULD HAVE COULD HAVE. OTHER THAN THAT EXAMPLE, HE'S GOTTA COME BEFORE US WITH THE SUB. SO YES, COMMISSIONER, I I'M AT THE POINT. I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. THERE ARE THINGS THAT BOB WANTS TO ALIGN WITH OTHER COMPANIES. DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SHARE SPACE AT PROJECT LIFT. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THERE'S JUST A LINE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR LOGO IN YOUR BUILDING SAYING, WE PROVIDE THIS AND WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THIS COMPANY. THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE PHYSICAL SPACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR ASSIGNMENT AND FOR LEASING. SO MY QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HE NEEDS LIFTS. HE NEEDS LOTS OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO TEACH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO ALL THIS. HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE TO BE LEASED? THERE'S ONLY A LIMIT. THERE'S A CAPACITY LIKE SPECIAL EVENTS OR WHERE HE WOULD MEET. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF ONE TIME EVENT LEASES, WHICH WOULD COME ACTUALLY UNDER A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. I MEAN, THAT'S A ONE TIME LEASE. THEY'RE GOING IN FOR AN EVENT THAT THAT'S REALLY AN EVENT LEASE. SO I JUST KIND OF THOUGHT IT WAS GETTING A LITTLE MIXED UP HERE. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT HE WILL ALIGN HIMSELF WITH. THEY MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOGOS AND WHATNOT ON HIS WALLS. 
          THEY'VE COME IN AND MAYBE TALKED TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE HE'S WITH. THEY'RE PUSHING A PRODUCT, AND THEN THERE'S A PHYSICAL SPACE OF ASSIGNMENT OR LEASING. I'M ASSUMING THE ASSIGNMENT WOULD BE IF THEY'RE ASSIGNING THE WHOLE BUILDING. I MEAN, IT SAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE EVENTS AND ASSIGNMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE GOTTA HAVE THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S JUST GETTING ALL MIXED UP IN THE VERGE OF IT. IT'S THERE'S. GINOBILI. I, I'M LIKE, OH, I'M GETTING IT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S OKAY. THREE LETTERS GOBI, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IT'S OKAY. I APOLOGIZE COMMISSIONER LAURA I APPRECIATE IT. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. IT'S THERE'S ONLY TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH OF A FOOTPRINT THERE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A TON OF SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LEASE AFTER SUBLEASE AFTER ALL THESE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S GOING TO BE MISSION ALIGNED ORGANIZATIONS. YES. WHETHER IT'S AN ASSIGNMENT OR A SUBLEASE, IT'S ALL THE SAME. 
          COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. 
          BOB. THAT'S OKAY. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO BE DEFINITIVE IN THE LEASE TO SAY THAT? DO WE NEED TO BE DEFINITIVE? THAT IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEASES THAT ARE FOR PHYSICAL SPACE OR SIX MONTH OR A YEAR OR TWO YEAR LEASE THAT THEY'RE LEASING OUT VERSUS EVENT LEASES. I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR IN 11.1. ALRIGHT, OKAY. SO THEN IT IS. SO THEN I THINK WE'VE JUST GONE ROUND ROBIN FOR NO REASON. OKAY, NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I, I MADE 
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MY COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SMALLER LEASE TERM JUST BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC EVER CHANGED, BUT I UNDERSTAND I'M ONE PERSON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOUR OF US. SO MARY ROLL CALL. 
          I JUST MAKE ONE. YEAH I DIDN'T YOUR LIGHT WASN'T ON. COMMISSIONER RICH. YOU HAVE A COMMENT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT LIFT. AND MISTER ZACCHEO IS A PROVEN RECORD. LET'S LET HIM RUN HIS BUSINESS BECAUSE HE'S WORKING FOR THE WELFARE OF HIS STUDENTS, AND HE'S WORKING FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S CLEAR. IF HE ABANDONS THAT EFFORT, WE'LL FIND OUT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION. WE'LL FIND YOU IF YOU DO THAT. I GOT A LOT MORE TO ASK YOU. YOU SHOULD GO TO ONE OF HIS GRADUATIONS. HE IS CHANGING PEOPLE'S LIVES. HE IS CHANGING FAMILY'S LIVES. IT WAS THE ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL AND FUN EVENTS I HAVE EVER BEEN TO, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE IN BUSINESS TOGETHER. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. MARY, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SURE. RESOLUTION NUMBER 43 2026. I HAVE COMMISSIONER RICH. AND JUST TO BE. IT INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT OF THE CONSENT. OKAY. YES, YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MAYOR REED. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. YES. LET'S GO. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN YOU FLIP YOUR LIGHT SWITCH ON, JUST LEAVE IT ON UNTIL I TURN IT OFF. BECAUSE IT CONFUSES ME. BECAUSE I'LL TURN IT OFF AND I'M TURNING IT BACK ON. SO SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S STILL LIT UP. BUT ALL OF THE SWITCHES, YES, THEY WORK 
          [4. LETTER OF SUPPORT TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK SENIOR FOOD AND  RESOURCE PROGRAM (RC):    RESOLUTION No. 45-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE  CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING LETTER OF SUPPORT TO GOVERNOR  DESANTIS FOR 404 SPECIAL CATEGORIES GRANTS AND AIDS OLDER  AMERICANS ACT PROGRAM; THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK SENIOR FOOD  AND RESOURCE PROGRAM. THIS INVESTMENT IS CRITICAL TO REDUCING FOOD  INSECURITY AND IMPROVING HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR OLDER ADULTS  ACROSS INDIAN RIVER, MARTIN, ST. LUCIE, AND OKEECHOBEE COUNTIES;  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES]
THOUGH. MOVING ON TO COMMISSION ACTION. ITEM ON NUMBER FOUR. LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK SENIOR FOOD AND RESOURCE PROGRAM. LEE, IF YOU COULD READ THAT. SURE. 
          RESOLUTION NUMBER 45-2026, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING LETTER OF SUPPORT TO GOVERNOR DESANTIS FOR 404 SPECIAL CATEGORIES GRANTS AND AIDS OLDER AMERICANS ACT PROGRAM, THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK SENIOR FOOD AND RESOURCE PROGRAM. THIS INVESTMENT IS CRITICAL TO REDUCING FOOD INSECURITY, IMPROVING HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR OLDER ADULTS ACROSS INDIAN RIVER, MARTIN, SAINT LUCIE AND OKEECHOBEE COUNTIES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK? MY ONLY QUESTION WAS JUST WHEN I GOOGLED IT THERE IN FORT PIERCE, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY SERVE IN THE CITY OF STUART OR OH MY GOODNESS, MARTIN, I'M JUST I WAS JUST CURIOUS. A SIMPLE QUESTION, BUT YES, IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE PODIUM. WELCOME, CAROL. THANK YOU. YES, I'M CAROL ANN LEONARD. I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, BUT I LIVE IN THE COUNTY. I'M FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY SPOKE TO ONE OF OUR GROUPS. AND I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HELPED SOME OF THE CHURCHES AROUND STUART AND HANDING OUT FOOD AND HELPING PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED SOME HELP OF, OF ALL AGES. AND THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL FACILITY IN FORT PIERCE. AND SO I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT THEM. AND ALSO I'LL PUT IN A PLUG FOR THE HOUSE OF HOPE HERE IN STUART. THANK YOU CAROL. THANK YOU. CAROL. MILTON AND I WENT UP THERE FOR THE PACK, THE HOUSE. MILTON LEGGETT, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. THE CITY OF STUART, ALSO PARTICIPATED WITH THE. THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE. WE ALL WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AS FAR AS THAT GOES. SO WE DO IT EVERY YEAR. OKAY. AND WE HOPE YOU SUPPORT. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MILTON CAME UP JUST LIKE THAT. OH YEAH. WE'LL JUST LET US KNOW. HE PASSED. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONER. ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 45 2026. RESOLUTION NUMBER MOVE APPROVAL. I SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 45, 2026 FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MARY. ROLL CALL. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. MAYOR REED. YES. COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          [5. 1560 BOONE LLC., MAJOR AMENDMENT TO WINDEMERE POINT CPUD (QUASI JUDICIAL) (RC):  ORDINANCE No. 2546-2025; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE  CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE 3B OF  THE “WINDEMERE POINT” COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT,  PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN TO AUTHORIZE  THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 1,995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYE'S RESTAURANT WITH  DUAL DRIVE-THROUGH LANES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF N.W.  WINDEMERE DRIVE AND NW FEDERAL HIGHWAY; PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS  OF APPROVAL; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE SECOND READING. LEE, IF YOU COULD READ THAT. AND JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GET YOUR YELLOW CARD OUT FOR A QUASI 
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JUDICIAL HEARING. JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK SERVES OVER 250,000 INDIVIDUALS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. INTRODUCES THE ITEM. LET'S SEE. ORDINANCE 2546 2025 FOR SECOND READING. AND IF YOU COULD READ THE AGENDA ITEM LEE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2546-2025, AN ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE B OF THE WINDERMERE POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN TO AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 1995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYES RESTAURANT WITH DUAL DRIVE THRU LANES. LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE AND NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? COMMISSIONER RICH, I READ ONE EMAIL IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. OKAY, COMMISSIONER JOB, I SPOKE WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND I DID HAVE SEVERAL EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE AGAINST THE PROJECT. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK CLARK, I. I THINK I SPOKE TO STAFF BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'VE SAW AT LEAST ONE EMAIL FROM A LADY WHO WAS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, AND THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN OTHER EMAILS, BUT WHATEVER THEY ARE, I HOPE THAT STAFF HAS THEM, OR I'LL TRY TO REFER MINE TO STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CAPTURED. MY EX PARTE WOULD BE COMMUNICATION VIA EMAIL WHERE RESIDENTS HAD CONTACTED US, AND I BELIEVE I'VE MADE BETWEEN 1 AND 3 FACEBOOK POSTS ON MY GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL PAGE WHERE I TURN OFF COMMENTING. SO THERE'S NO EX PARTE ON THE FACEBOOK SITE, BUT I STILL WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT IT'S POSTED AND THEY COULD REACH US FOR COMMENT. IF THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD PLACE ANY POTENTIAL WITNESSES UNDER OATH AS WELL. SURE. BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE INTRO IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, WHICH THIS IS. THE CITY COMMISSION STEPS OUTSIDE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE AND INTO A JUDICIAL CAPACITY. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL BE MAKING A DETERMINATION BY APPLYING EXISTING LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS TO THE FACTS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD, AND TESTIMONY NEEDS TO BE UNDER OATH. THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT OCCURRED PRIOR TO THE HEARING, WHICH THEY JUST DID. SO WE'LL ALL POTENTIAL WITNESSES FOR THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IN THIS HEARING WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO ALL RIGHT. YOU MAY BE SEATED. WILL THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PLEASE PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA ITEM, INCLUDING THE LOCATION, SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, CURRENT ZONING, ZONING REQUESTED, AND LIST THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO DEVIATE FROM THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, IF ANY. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODI KUGLER. I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WITH THE CITY OF STUART. I'M PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE SECOND READING FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS WINDERMERE POINT. A PETITION TO DEVELOP POPEYES FAST FOOD, CONVENIENT RESTAURANT WITH DOUBLE DRIVE THRU LANES WITHIN THE VACANT FOOTPRINT OF PHASE THREE B OF THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE REQUEST WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY ON NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025. THE FIRST HEARING BEFORE THE COMMISSION WAS ON JANUARY 12TH, 2026. THE CITY COMMISSION VOTED TO POSTPONE THE SECOND HEARING UNTIL THE APPLICANT ADDRESSED THE MONUMENT SIGN. TRAFFIC AND A LETTER FROM JAMES TUCKER DATED JUNE JANUARY 9TH, 2026 THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON JANUARY 12TH, 2026. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING MODIFICATION TO MODIFY THE APPROVED SITE PLAN TO DEVELOP AND REDUCE THE SIZE OF PHASE THREE B DEVELOPMENT OF THE CPD PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ON MAY 22ND, 2026, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. ADDITIONALLY, TWO SIGNS WERE WERE UPDATED AND POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE MEETING, SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 8TH, WAS RESCHEDULED VIA THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR TODAY'S DATE, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. THE WINDERMERE 
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POINT COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMPRISES OF THREE PARCELS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES. THE 1.64 ACRE PARCEL OUTLINED IN TEAL IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, WITH THE ADDRESS OF 1961 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THE PARCEL IS SITUATED AT THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF NORTHWEST DRIVE AND US HIGHWAY ONE. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED BY THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT ZONING DISTRICT. NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE IS SITUATED TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY IS SITUATED TO THE WEST AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED. COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST IS ALSO ZONED. COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE SUBJECT PARCEL, AS WELL AS THE PARCELS TO THE SOUTH AND EAST, ARE DESIGNATED BY THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO THE NORTH AND IS NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE AND TO THE WEST IS NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL FOR THE THREE BE GRANTED UNDER RESOLUTION 99, 2015, 2017 AND ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2017. AUTHORIZED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 2034 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE AND A ONE AND A 1794 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH TOTALING 3828FT■!S. THE APPLICANT QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. CAN ONE OF THE MEMBERS LEAVE? WE HAVE TO PAUSE THE MEETING. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A THIS MEETING AT 7:34 P.M. SO YOU CAN CONTINUE. JODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO AMEND THE COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ELIMINATE THE RETAIL PORTION DESIGNING DESIGNATING THE RESTAURANT AS THE SOLE USE FOR PHASE THREE. B, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY STEWART COMMISSION TO CONSTRUCT A 1995 SQUARE FOOT POPEYES RESTAURANT WITH DUAL DRIVE THRUS. THIS PROPOSAL REPRESENTS A REDUCTION OF 1833FT■!S FROM THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PHASE THREE B, ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY COMMISSION IN 2017. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IN 2017, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED A AMENDMENT REVISING THE TIMETABLE FOR THREE A TO ALLOW FOR A 5200 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL AND A PHASE THREE 1794 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH WITH DRIVE THROUGH. BASED ON THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCIES AND THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE PROPOSED COLOR SCHEME TO MATCH THE PLAZA IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SECTION 6.05.02 F ALL LARGE DEVELOPMENT ARE LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF FIVE DESIGN BUILDING TREATMENTS AS STAFF IDENTIFIED. DISPLAY WINDOWS, WOOD FACADE, PAINTED FACE BRICK, DECORATIVE LIGHT FIXTURES AND SHUTTERS. ACCORDING TO THE SUBMITTAL. THE SIGNAGE AND THE ELEVATION PROPOSES A TOTAL OF FIVE SIGNS. ONE WALL SIGN ON THE WEST ELEVATION FRONT OF US, ONE MEASURING 43.2FT■!S. ONE SIGN ON THE ELEVATION FRONTAGE FRONTING NORTHWEST WINDERMERE DRIVE, MEASURING TWO 24.1FT■!S AND ONE CHICKEN GRAPHIC 33FT■!S. MURALS, WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED AS THE WALL SIGNS IN THE CITY OF STEWART'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, ONE THAT SAYS LOVE THAT CHICKEN GRAPHIC, 117FT■!S AND ONE THAT SAYS FAMOUS LOUISIANA CHICKEN GRAPHIC, 40FT■!S. REFLECTED ON THE SLIDE ARE CLEAR IMAGES OF THE CURRENT LOCATION. THE CITY OF STEWART WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SANITATION SERVICES ONLY TO THE SITE, AND ISSUING CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE SUPPORT. THE EXISTING PARCEL PROVIDES A TOTAL OF 103 PARKING SPACES. OF THE 23 OF THE 21 SPACES ARE ALLOTTED TO THE CURRENT RETAIL USE. THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT WILL REMOVE NINE EXISTING SPACES, BUT THE PLAN INCLUDES STRIPING 16 NEW SPACES. 
          TO OFFSET THIS IMPACT, THE RESTAURANT WILL BE REQUIRED WILL REQUIRE 25 PARKING SPACES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE 64 SURPLUS SPACES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IF THE REMAINING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT HAD BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THE TRAFFIC. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ANTICIPATED TO GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 122 TRIPS DURING THE A M PEAK HOUR THAT IS 67 ENTERING AND 55 EXITING, AS WELL AS 229 TRIPS DURING THE P M PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS 127 
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ENTERING AND 102 EXITING. THE ANALYSIS. COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED TRIP GENERATION WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS REVIEW CONCLUDED THAT THE NET TRIP GENERATION FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT REFLECTS A REDUCTION IN AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS AND A DIMINISHED INCREASE LESS THAN 1% IN THE MORNING HOUR TRIPS. 
          THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN INCLUDES AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE OF 57% AND A PERVIOUS COVERAGE OF 42%, ACCORDING TO KIMLEY-HORN, THE CITY'S CONSULTANT ENGINEER REVIEW. THE SUBMITTAL DRAINAGE STATEMENT DEMONSTRATES THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE CITY OF STEWART'S DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. THE LIVE OAK TREE IMPACTED WILL BE RELOCATED ON THE SITE BY A CERTIFIED ARBORIST AND WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO WORK COMMENCING IN RESPONSE TO THE FLOODING CONCERNS RAISED AT THE FIRST COMMISSION MEETING, STAFF CONTACTED FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, KNOWN AS FDOT AND FDOT, IN THEIR CONTRACTOR OASIS, AND INDICATED THAT THEY RECEIVED A FLOOD RELATED COMPLAINT IN 2023, DISPATCHED A CREW TO INVESTIGATE AND FOUND NO ISSUES AT THAT TIME. NO ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN REPORTED SINCE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL EIGHT CANOPY TREES THAT INCLUDE STUFF HOLLIES, CRAPE MYRTLES, PINK TABS, LIVE OAK AND A FOXTAIL. PALM HEDGE MATERIAL WILL BE CONSIST OF COCOA PLUMS, GREEN ISLAND FICUS AND TRIMMINGS, AS WELL AS ANNUAL GROUND COLOR. COLOR COVERS. THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE HAS BEEN LANDSCAPED AND WELL MAINTAINED FOR THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF IS ALSO WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY DEAD PLANTS OR TREES THAT HAVE DIED SINCE THE FRUITION OF THE PD CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO WORK WITH THEM TO. 
          CONDITIONS WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING AND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. WATER AND SEWER WILL BE PROVIDED BY MARTIN COUNTY. ALL CIVIL UTILITY PLANS MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY MARTIN COUNTY. ALL PROPOSED DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE MUST BE CONSTRUCTED FOR THE CITY OF STEWART'S DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. CONSTRUCTION DETAILS THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE FROM MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE PROPOSED DUMPSTER LOCATION WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT PRIOR TO ISSUING OF SITE PERMIT, WHICH IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANY PROPOSED SANITATION RECEPTACLES PER USE UNIT REQUIRE MORE THAN TWICE A WEEK PICKUP. THE OWNER DEVELOPER WILL BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL PACKS WITH EIGHT YARD RECEPTACLES. ON NOVEMBER 13TH, 2025, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY APPROVED THE POPEYES MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMERCIAL PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PROPOSED SIGNS FROM 10 TO 6. THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT SIGNAGE BE MODIFIED TO COMPLEMENT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE SURROUNDING SHOPPING PLAZA AND ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF SUPPORTS THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN SUBMITTAL REQUEST AS REVISED, AND THE RESPONSE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND PUBLIC INPUT. BECAUSE IT'S LESS INTENSIVE THAN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. HOWEVER, FINAL APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY COMMISSION'S APPROVAL. THERE WAS ONE MORE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE FIRST READING. WE DID DO SOME. WE DID ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE US THE CRASH ANALYSIS AT THE INTERSECTION OF WINDERMERE AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY LAST YEAR AND THE 20 2025. THERE WAS TEN CRASHES AT THAT LOCATION AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. I DO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. ROBERT SHERMAN. HE IS THE DEVELOPER, AND I WOULD LIKE HIM TO TO PROVIDE SOME ANALYSIS OF HOW THE TRAFFIC WILL FLOW THROUGH THE SITE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROBERT SHERMAN. I REPRESENT 1560 BOONE, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN. I'M VERY BLESSED THAT STAFF AND THE COMMISSION HAS TAKEN EXTRA TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE ITEMS THAT WERE ADDRESSED AT THE FIRST MEETING HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND UPDATED AS REQUESTED. STAFF ASKED ME TO DISCUSS THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOW TRAFFIC CURRENTLY IS DESIGNED ON THE SITE. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, I WAS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER ON THE PARCEL WHEN WE WENT AHEAD AND WE. I CAN'T HEAR YOU SIR. SPEAK UP SIR. I'M SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. I'M SORRY. YOU WANT ME TO START OVER AGAIN? WE'RE JUST UP TO THIS POINT. SO STAFF ASKED ME TO DISCUSS TRANSPORTATION AND HOW CARS WILL WORK ON THE SITE AS THE 
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ENTIRE PARCEL. AS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, I WAS THE ONE THAT WORKED WITH RACETRAC TO GET THE SOUTHERN ACCESS POINT WHEN LA FITNESS WAS THERE. SO AS THE SITE CURRENTLY WORKS TODAY, THERE ARE THREE POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THE ENTIRE PARCEL. IN THE ENTIRE PUD, THERE IS AN INGRESS AND EGRESS OFF OF WINDERMERE, WHICH FEEDS THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER. AND AS YOU WOULD ENTER THAT TRAFFIC POINT, YOU WOULD MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN TO COME DOWN TOWARDS THE WEST AT THE FRONT OF THE POPEYES LOCATION, AND THEN GO AROUND AND INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH. AS THE DRIVE THROUGH GOES. HEADING BACK TO THE EAST, YOU WOULD DRIVE THROUGH THE CIRCULAR DRIVE THROUGH, WHICH IS DOUBLE AND LOADED. YOU WOULD THEN COME BACK ONCE AGAIN TO THE WEST SIDE AND HAVE THREE OPTIONS. OPTION ONE AS YOU HEAD DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A EXIT, ONLY LEAVING THE CORNER PARCEL THAT HAS THE MEDICAL CENTER AND THE POPEYES TO GET TO US. ONE. OR THEY COULD GO BACK OUT TO THE WINDERMERE LOCATION AND GO BACK TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. AND THIRDLY, FOR THOSE TRAFFIC THAT WANTS TO HEAD SOUTH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND LEAVE RIGHT THROUGH THE RACEWAY AND GO BACK THAT DIRECTION TO THEN COME BACK NORTH ON US, ON, ON, ON THE MAIN HIGHWAY. DO YOU NEED A LARGER MAP TO SEE THAT OR DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT? PLEASE CONTINUE SIR. SO WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH STAFF. WE WORKED VERY HARD TO MEET ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED AT THE ORIGINAL COMMISSION MEETING. AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED, HOPEFULLY, TO GET THIS APPROVED. 
          THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS ARE WAITING AT THE CITY TO BE REVIEWED, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY BREAK GROUND ON THIS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND BE ABLE TO OPEN THIS UP NOW, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT STAFF BROUGHT UP ABOUT TIME OF OPERATIONS, SO I WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO. SURE. OKAY. YEAH. SO STAFF BROUGHT UP THAT THE CURRENT APPLICATION WAS FOR A 12 MIDNIGHT CLOSING. OLIVER, THE OWNER OF THE LEASE FOR POPEYES, COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. BUT JODY AND I DID TEXT HIM. I SHOWED JODY THE TEXT. HE'S DEFINITELY WILLING TO REDUCE THAT HOUR OF OPENING. AND WELL, ACTUALLY, THE HOUR OF CLOSING IS HOPING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA. I BELIEVE THAT CHIPOTLE IS 11:00. THERE'S SOME AT 10:00. SO IF WE COULD TRY TO GET IT WITHIN THAT RANGE. 1030 11 I THINK THAT WOULD WORK TO BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN THE CITY OF STUART, AND HE'S WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT. DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? WELL, IT WAS THE TIME, MY UNDERSTANDING. OH SORRY. MIDNIGHT COMMISSIONER JOB. YES. THE TIME OPEN TILL IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 10:00 WAS PRETTY MUCH THE AVERAGE IN THE AREA FOR FAST FOOD. AND EVEN REGULAR RESTAURANTS USUALLY CLOSE AT NINE. SO HAVING AN ENTITY OPEN SO LATE JUST DIDN'T SEEM CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA. AND HE AGREED. 
          THAT'S WHY IF WE CAN GET LIKE 1030, IT WOULD BE PERFECT THERE. REV THEIR CORPORATE GUIDELINES SAYS THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE MINIMUM WOULD BE. AND IF HE WOULD REALLY REQUEST, IF WE COULD MEET THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY HELPFUL. UNDER HIS LEASE AND OBLIGATIONS. I TOLD HIM 11 WOULD BE KIND OF LATE TEN, HE SAYS. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE OPEN TO 11 AND SOME AT TEN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT HIS WISH WOULD BE. IF THAT COULD BE MET, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT FROM THE 
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COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER CLARK? WELL, JUST TO BRING UP THE I DON'T HAVE THAT LADY'S NOTE AND I'VE LOOKED AT IT ALL. I HAVE THREE I'LL GO WITH THE ONE FIRST THAT I DISCUSSED WITH STAFF ABOUT THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND THE CROSSOVER. AFTER VEHICLES HAVE STACKED AND GONE TO THE WINDOW, THERE'S A TWO LINE STACKING AND MAYBE STAFF CAN DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT AND HOW, WHETHER OR NOT WOULD THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS BUSINESS. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO GO OUT, I GUESS MORE TO THE EAST, I FORGOT WHAT THAT ROAD IS. IS IT RIGHT BOULEVARD OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT THERE, YOU'RE CROSSING THROUGH THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND THROUGH PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WALKING FROM THE PARKING LOT INTO THE FRONT ENTRANCE. I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY. YEAH. RIGHT HERE. YES. 
          JODY, I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT. PAGE FIVE OF 12. THAT PARTICULAR DIAGRAM. WOULD YOU MIND PULLING IT UP WHEN YOU GET A MINUTE, PLEASE? RIGHT HERE. YEAH. SEE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD GO OUT. WELL THEY HAVE THREE MEANS OF EGRESS. 
          YEAH. THREE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST THIS ONE. YEAH. JUST WHERE THEY WHERE THEY HAVE TO CROSS THROUGH. THEY COME AROUND THE WINDOW AND THEN RIGHT THROUGH HERE THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE COMING FROM THIS PARKING LOT HERE RIGHT IN I GUESS IT'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. I DON'T BECAUSE IT'S ONE I CAN'T SEE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING? SORRY. THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE MEDICAL BUILDING OR THE BUILDINGS BEHIND IT, WHICH IS A SEPARATE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? WELL, YOUR BUILDING. 2112 WHAT'S THAT? 2112 JODY THE RESTAURANT THAT IS THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT LOCATION. YEAH, THAT'S THE RESTAURANT LOCATION. 
          OKAY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? SHE'S LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE FIVE. HE IT'S THE SAME. I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME NOW. CAN YOU. THAT'S ON THE BOARD. YES. SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO IN THE FRONT WHERE THE TWO HANDICAPPED SPACES ARE BEING PROPOSED, WHERE THEY CAN WHERE PEDESTRIANS WILL BE CROSSING OVER, WHERE TRAFFIC WILL BE FLOWING EITHER TO THE TO THE NORTH OR SOUTH? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL STAFF COMMENTS THAT WAS ADDRESSED. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD CLEAR PATH TO BE ABLE TO SEE, AND WE REMOVED PARKING FROM THAT AREA TO MAKE IT A SAFER AREA FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS. THERE'S ACTUALLY A CROSSWALK THERE, SAFETY CROSSWALK THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AT THE ENTRANCEWAY OF THE DRIVEWAYS COMING IN. SO IT WAS ADDRESSED AT THE ORIGINAL STAFF MEETINGS AND THEN LPA. SO WE, I BELIEVE, ADDRESSED THAT TO BE SAFE ZONED THERE WERE CARS, THERE WAS OTHER THINGS THERE AND IT'S ALL BEEN REMOVED NOW JUST TO BE LANDSCAPING AND BICYCLES, I BELIEVE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A SAFETY PEDESTRIAN FOR INCOMING AND OUTGOING TRAFFIC IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. CORRECT. ALSO FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS THE CROSSWALK TO GET TO THE SOUTHERN BUILDING. I SEE THAT HASH MARK THERE. YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. WELL, BETWEEN THE TWO HANDICAPPED SPACES, THE GRAY AREA WHERE THEY THEY PULL, THEY COME OUT. AND IF THEY'RE TAKING A WHEELCHAIR INTO THE, THE FRONT DOOR. THERE'S TRAFFIC COMING RIGHT ALONG THERE. THAT'S A 25 FOOT, YOU KNOW, ACCESS ROAD. MOST OF THESE ARE MUCH SMALLER. BUT THIS HAS ALL BEEN DESIGNED BY ADA, SIGNED OFF BY ADA AND ALL THE CITY CONSULTANTS THAT IT COMPLIES WITH. SO IT MIGHT NOT BE A GREAT REPRESENTATION ON THIS TYPE OF PLAN, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ADA AND ALL STAFF HAS DONE A VERY THOROUGH JOB WITH ALL THE CONSULTANTS TO CONFIRM ALL OF THESE ITEMS. OKAY THEN MY NEXT QUESTION. MR. MAYOR, MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.