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          THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON JULY 27TH, 2026 AT 5:50 P.M. TO ORDER. 
          MARY, IF YOU COULD ROLL CALL MAYOR, READ HERE. COMMISSIONER. CLARK HERE, COMMISSIONER HERE, 
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COMMISSIONER RICK DEAR. AND FOLLOWED BY THAT, WE HAVE INVOCATION BY PASTOR JAMES HARP FROM STUART ALLIANCE CHURCH. AND AFTERWARDS, COULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THANK YOU. LET'S PRAY. OUR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, AND I THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON, TO PRAY, TO BRING INVOCATION, NOT TO ASK YOU TO BE HERE, BUT LORD MORE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR PRESENCE. THE PSALMIST IN PSALM 139, VERSE SEVEN, RHETORICALLY ASKS THE QUESTION, WHERE CAN I GO TO ESCAPE YOUR PRESENCE, TO ESCAPE YOUR SPIRIT? WHERE CAN I FLEE FROM YOUR PRESENCE? LORD, HE KNEW THAT YOU ARE EVERYWHERE. 
          YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE IN THIS ROOM, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND FATHER, I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD SUPERINTEND THIS MEETING. SITTING HERE WAITING, I LOOKED UP THAT WORD TO GIVE THE DEFINITION, AND IT MEANS TO HAVE OR EXERCISE THE CHARGE AND OVERSIGHT OF, TO OVERSEE WITH THE POWER OF DIRECTION, TO TAKE CARE, WITH AUTHORITY, TO SUPERVISE. AND LORD, THAT WOULD BE MY PRAYER THIS EVENING, THAT YOU WOULD SUPERVISE AND SUPERINTEND THIS MEETING TONIGHT AND ALL OTHER MEETINGS, LORD, WHERE PLANS ARE BEING MADE AND THINGS ARE BEING DISCUSSED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR CITY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THESE THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN AUTHORITY OVER THE COMMUNITY. LORD, YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT WE'RE TO PRAY FOR THEM, THAT WE'RE TO ENCOURAGE THEM, THAT WE'RE TO LIFT THEM UP BEFORE YOU, THAT YOU WOULD GRANT THEM WISDOM AND DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE SO THAT OUR LIVES WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE OF THEM. SO, LORD, I DO THAT TONIGHT. I PRAY FOR THEM. I PRAY FOR THEIR FAMILIES. I PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CITY TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, AND TO TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. LORD, WE THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTRY IN WHICH WE LIVE. THAT GIVES US THE FREEDOM, LORD, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK TO YOU AND ALSO TO BE THANKFUL FOR ALL THOSE THINGS AROUND US THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US. SO, LORD, I COMMIT THIS MEETING INTO YOUR HANDS TONIGHT. I THANK YOU FOR EACH ONE HERE. I PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND DIRECTION AGAIN TO GUIDE AND DIRECT EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID AND DONE. I PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 
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AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER RICH. THANK YOU, 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS ]
MR. MAYOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF US, AND I DO THIS BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAS AN ATTORNEY'S DEDICATED SOLELY TO ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS. SHE JUST WALKED IN THE DOOR, AND SHE GOES AROUND INSISTING THAT EVERYBODY FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF POLLUTING AND KEEPING OUR WATERWAYS CLEAN. SO I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT FROM JUNE 1ST TO NOVEMBER 30TH, YOU MAY NOT APPLY FERTILIZERS CONTAINING NITROGEN OR PHOSPHORUS, AND THAT INCLUDES GOING TO LOWE'S AND BUYING THOSE FERTILIZERS AND PUTTING THEM ON YOURSELVES. I HAVE SEEN COMMERCIAL COMPANIES OUT THERE DOING THAT, AND I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO LOOK IN HOW WE REMIND THESE COMPANIES COURTEOUSLY OF THEIR OBLIGATION TOWARDS THIS FERTILIZER BAN, AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MIGHT BE FOR RUTH. THEN DO YOU KNOW IF GOLF COURSES CAN STILL BE FERTILIZED, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A FERTILIZER BAN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS TO LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOB. YES. HI, EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE, AS I ALWAYS DO, FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING TONIGHT, BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE. NOW MORE THAN EVER, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD IN OUR COMMUNITY. LAST WEDNESDAY, I WAS PRIVILEGED TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO KEEP OUR PUBLIC LANDS IN GOOD SHAPE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, THIS BEST MANAGEMENT SERIES IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY FOR MORE THAN A DECADE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THIS YEAR'S GRADUATES, AND I WAS GLAD TO SEE THEM RECEIVE THEIR AWARDS. 
          THANK YOU. MILTON LEGGETT AND HIS CREW, WHO WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO KEEP THE PUBLIC 
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SPACES BEAUTIFUL. I WANT TO THANK YOU THAT GÖDEL AND HER STAFF AT UF IFAS EXTENSION FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE EVENT. AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE CITY AND COUNTY INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH YVETTE AND HER STAFF TO MAKE THE GRADUATION POSSIBLE. I'M SURE I DON'T SAY IT OFTEN ENOUGH, BUT I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS UP AND RUNNING EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENT? OH, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SAID THE END COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER CLARK. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOB, THANK YOU FOR STEALING MY SPEECH. BUT THAT'S OKAY. SORRY. NO, IT'S. YES, THE PUBLIC WORKS ON GRADUATION WAS A VERY GOOD PROGRAM TO SEE THE FACES OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WHO PREPARE OUR CONSERVATION AREAS OR PARKS, WHATEVER IT IS, FOR THOSE WHO VISIT AND PLAY AND LIVE AND WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEY CREATE THAT IMAGE FOR THOSE WHO USE THOSE FACILITIES. AND IT'S A GOOD THING. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL LEVELS. MISTER RICH. AGAIN, ANOTHER PERSON WHO UPSTAGED ME, I GUESS, MISS HOLMES, RUTH HOLMES, THE ONLY. WHAT DID YOU SAY, MISTER RICH? THE ONLY THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO HAS AN ATTORNEY DEDICATED SOLELY TO DEALING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS. OKAY. AND SO AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT I DID WITH AND I GUESS I WON'T UPSTAGE CITY MANAGER, BUT I DID GO OUT WITH CITY MANAGER, MISS HOLMES AND SOME RESIDENTS IN AN AREA OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR SOMEBODY TO COME AND LOOK AND CHECK. AND THERE'S LOTS OF WORK TO BE DONE, NOT ONLY IN THAT AREA, BUT OTHER AREAS. WE WENT TO THE CREEK AREA AND WALKED THE ENTIRE. 
          LINEAR AREA AROUND THE, THE, THE PROPERTY BORDER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TRY TO ASSESS AND LEARN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT COMMUNITY AND HOW WE CAN HELP IN THE FUTURE AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS HOLMES. AND I HOPE THAT WHATEVER WE GLEAN AND WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING WITH, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO GET SOMETHING DONE, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT BUDGET WITH A PLAN OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING IN VARIOUS WAYS TO WORK ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE CLEAN WATERWAYS. THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS CLOSE TO KENNER HIGHWAY, WHICH HAS A LOT OF RUNOFF FROM THE ROAD, AND THERE'S OIL AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN. BUT IT WAS JUST A GOOD THING TO KNOW THAT WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT WAY AND, AND GOT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. WE JUST HAD A MEETING BEFORE THIS ONE, WHICH IS CALLED THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT. WHAT WE HAD THE CRA, WE HAD SOME CRB MEMBERS. WE HAD A JOINT MEETING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS HOW TO LITERALLY HOW TO GET COMMUNITIES REVITALIZED BY TRYING TO FREE UP TITLES TO PROPERTY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO APPLY FOR UNDER THE NAME OF CALL IT AN OWNER. AND SO THE EARS PROPERTY, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE CRA WITH PINAL GANDHI SAVED US. IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. AND THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM, OR EVEN TO BE PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH IT, OR CAN SHARE INFORMATION WITH SOMEONE ELSE, PLEASE DO SO AND LET US TRY TO GET MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS DONE. THIS IS RIGHT NOW LIMITED TO THE EAST STEWART AREA, AND WE'RE WORKING TO TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE TRY TO GET IT, GET IT DONE. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. I WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENTS REGARDING THE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ITEMS, IF WE'RE GOING TO, OR IF WE'D BE OKAY WITH ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS WHEN THEY COME UP. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE COMMENT. COMMISSIONER CLARK, COMMISSIONER RICH, IT CAN BE HERE CITY, NOT CITY MANAGER, YES OR NO FOR CONSENSUS. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK CITY ATTORNEY IF HE THINKS IT MIGHT GET OUT OF HAND. JUST JUST WE JUST GET GET THE COMMENTS NOW. NO, I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ASKING WHETHER IF YOU HAVE ONLY A 
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DISCUSSION AND NO MOTIONS, WHETHER YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ISSUES, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE WITH IT. IT'S MORE OF A PREFERENTIAL. CORRECT? YEAH. IT WAS ADVERTISED AS SUCH. AS LONG AS IT IS NOT THE ONLY TIME WHEN PEOPLE GIVE COMMENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ADVERTISED AS SUCH, PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, THEY THEY ACCEPTED IT. I HEAR YOU. 
          YEAH. WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. IS THAT A IS THAT A YES OR NO? YES. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. SURE. THANKS. MY COMMENTS ARE I'M GOING TO BE HOSTING A TOWN HALL MEETING HERE AT CITY HALL ON AUGUST 12TH FROM 430 TO 730. AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HOW TO NAVIGATE THE CITY WEBSITE, ASK QUESTIONS, LEARN YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE ALSO HAVE FROM FDOT WHAT IS IN REGARDS TO THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY? IT'S A D AND E STUDY REGARDING THE WILLOUGHBY BOULEVARD EXTENSION. 
          AND THIS CITY COMMISSION BOARD DID SEND A LETTER UNANIMOUSLY FIVE ZERO TO THE MARTIN COUNTY MPO BOARD TO LET THEM KNOW WE SUPPORTED A NO BUILD OPTION, BUT THERE'S A VIRTUAL MEETING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON JULY 28TH AT 5:30 P.M. AND THERE'S AN IN-PERSON MEETING ON JULY 29TH AT THE 10TH STREET REC CENTER, AND IT STARTS AT 5:30 P.M. AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS I, I MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER THIS MORNING, AND I LET HIM KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE CASES, AS I CALL THEM, SINCE I WAS ELECTED IN AUGUST OF 2024, THAT HAS GOTTEN MY ATTENTION AND I'M TRYING TO RESOLVE THEM. I'VE MENTIONED THEM MULTIPLE TIMES. YOU MIGHT HEAR THEM IN PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. SOME OF THEM INVOLVE LEGAL ISSUES. SOME OF THEM INVOLVE THE APPLICANT. 
          SOME ARE WITH THE CITY. MAYBE WHEN THEY COME UP, I'LL I'LL ADDRESS THEM WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER ]
COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU. MAYOR. COMMISSIONER CLARK, GREAT TO TAKE A WALK WITH YOU TO POP OPEN CREEK. RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WE'RE IN A WEATHER SEASON. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE WORD. THE STAFF. WE HOSTED A SUPERB TABLETOP. I'VE BEEN IN EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND RECOVERY, AND I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A DEGREE IN METEOROLOGY. 
          SO BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES, AND WE HAVE A TOP NOTCH STAFF, AND I WAS VERY PLEASED WITH THE EXERCISE THAT WE HELD. IT WAS A TABLETOP, BUT EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED IN IT AND WE ARE PREPARED FOR THE SEASON. A COUPLE OF WHAT'S GOOD OUR POLICE EXPLORER EXPLORERS PARTICIPATED IN NATIONAL POLICE EXPLORERS EVENT AT THE SOUTH FLORIDA FAIRGROUNDS. THEY COMPLETED EIGHT EVENTS AGAINST 38 POLICE EXPLORERS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY NASSAU COUNTY, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, NASSAU COUNTY, NEW YORK, CHARLESTON COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, AUSTIN, TEXAS, TO NAME A FEW. STEWART FINISHED SECOND IN THE UNKNOWN PROBLEM CATEGORY AND THIRD IN FORCE ON FORCE. THE TEAM WAS AWARDED TWO TROPHIES. THEY'LL BE DISPLAYED IN THE LOBBY. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR POLICE EXPLORERS ON THAT. AND SECOND, I'VE GOT A LETTER FROM THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. I'M. THIS IS TO MR. MILTON LEGGETT. I'M GOING TO READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH. THE AMERICAN 250 PATRIOTS MARKER DEDICATION CEREMONY ON JULY 4TH, 2026 NEAR THE GAZEBO WAS CERTAINLY A PATRIOTIC ATMOSPHERE WITH BANNERS AND FLAGS FLYING HIGH. THIS IS TO MILTON LEGGETT, YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND ENCOURAGED ENCOURAGEMENT HELPED TO CREATE A VERY MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR MEMBERSHIP, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC ATTENDING THE CELEBRATION OF THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ON THAT VERY SPECIAL DAY, THIS IS SIGNED LYNN JENSEN COCHAIRMAN OF THE AMERICA 250 FROM THE DAUGHTERS OF THE REVOLUTION. CONGRATULATIONS TO MILTON LEGGETT AS USUAL. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT LAST TIME I TALKED ABOUT THE EVERGLADES FOUNDATION, THEY'LL BE COMMEMORATING AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED TEN YEARS AGO ABOUT THE RESTORATION OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A RESERVOIR. THERE'S A LUNCHEON 
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ON AUGUST 7TH. I WILL BE ATTENDING. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN INVITED, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND TO GET A HOLD OF THE EVERGLADES FOUNDATION. WE WILL COMMEMORATE THAT WITH A PROCLAMATION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. AN UPDATE ON THE AUDIT. I HAD CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE AUDITORS. OF COURSE, OUR TEAM WORKS WITH THE AUDIT FIRM AND MEETS EVERY WEEK ON THE 2025 AUDIT. WE'RE LATE. LATE MEANS JUNE 30TH, 2026. THE AUDIT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE. THE AUDIT FIRM HAD REACHED OUT TO US WELL IN ADVANCE, AND I REPORTED ON THIS AT AN EARLIER MEETING THAT THE THEY THEY'RE PROPOSING A SCHEDULE OF BEING DONE WITH THE AUDIT. ON AUGUST 31ST OF THIS YEAR. I ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY PRELIMINARY FINDINGS. THERE ARE NONE. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING IN THE 2025 BUDGET CLOSEOUT OR ANYTHING SINCE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT THAT I. THAT WILL LEAD ME TO CONCLUDE THERE WILL BE ANY ISSUE WITH THE 2025 BUDGET. THIS IS DELINQUENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T STARTED ON TIME AND IT WILL NOT HAPPEN UNDER MY WATCH AGAIN. SO I. I'M ONLY REPORTING IT AS AN UPDATE TO THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE ABOUT 50% COMPLETE. THE STAFF WORKS ON IT WEEKLY, AND AN AUDIT IS JUST A JUST THAT IT IS LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS, OUR OWN INTERNAL ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE PROCEDURES, AND SEEING. ARE WE IN TUNE WITH OUR OWN SELF AND ARE THERE ANY DISCREPANCIES THERE? THERE ARE NONE TO REPORT FROM 2025, NOR DO I ANTICIPATE ANY. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY, WE WILL ADDRESS THEM APPROPRIATELY. 
          THE NEW FINANCE STAFF IS DOING AN AWESOME JOB. TO THAT END, A BUDGET. YOU GOT A BUDGET UPDATE AND ALSO A PRELIMINARY LOOK INTO THE 2027 BUDGET IN THE PACKET FOR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH WILL BE A BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO OUR OUR BUDGET PACKET SHOULD BE OUT BY THE END OF THE WEEK THIS WEEK. AND RIGHT NOW, THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET FOR 2027 IS BALANCED. SO WE WILL BE PROPOSING A BALANCED 2027 BUDGET TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE COMMISSION COMING UP IN A FEW WEEKS FROM NOW. I MUST COMMEND ANTHONY ON HIS WORK. SINCE COMING HERE, HE HAS. HE'S IN THE ROOM TODAY. GIVE HIM A PAT ON THE BACK BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN WORKING EXTREMELY HARD AND TO OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO HAVE ALSO. WHO WHO GAVE US, YOU KNOW, HONEST INPUT. AND THEN I CHALLENGED THEM SINCE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. I NEED ANOTHER 5% FROM YOU. I PRESENTED THEM A 5% CHALLENGE TO THAT. AND THEY MET THAT CHALLENGE. AND BY MEETING THAT CHALLENGE WITH ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE UNMET, SOME UNMANDATED, SOME CONTRACTUAL AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD NOT HELP, THEY MET THAT CHALLENGE, BALANCE THE BUDGET, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT TODAY. AND I, WE WE'RE ANXIOUS TO SHOW THAT TO YOU, BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO ANTHONY FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK AND TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR MEETING THE CHALLENGE THAT I GAVE THEM. SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU. AND MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER MIKE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. COMMISSIONER JOB, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AS WELL FOR BEING VERY TRANSPARENT WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THE AUDIT. IT'S NICE AS WELL SEEING A BALANCED BUDGET. I KNOW LAST FISCAL YEAR WE ACTUALLY ROLLED THE MILLAGE BACK. SO TO BE BALANCED THIS EARLY ON BEFORE THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS EVEN START, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE, ARE LOOKING FOR FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR THEN. AND ALSO THANK YOU TO ANTHONY AS WELL. I KNOW WE HAD A MEETING AND IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS NOW OR BEFORE I GET APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA? THAT WAS ABOUT THE AGENDA. 
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GOTCHA. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE NEXT THING. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? THIS THIS WOULD BE WHERE YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION IF YOU'RE DOING A MOTION, I WANTED TO AMEND THE AGENDA. OKAY. SO MAKE A MOTION. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA. I'D LIKE TO MOVE UNDER DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM TO ANOTHER COMMISSION DAY. I THINK THAT THE SAILFISH BALL FIELDS REFERENDUM AND THE HANEY CREEK DESERVE FULL OUR FULL ATTENTION AND EXPLANATION AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. SO I'M ASKING 
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IF WE CAN MOVE THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM TO ANOTHER DATE. SO YOU WANT TO TABLE THOSE TWO ITEMS? NO, I WANT TO DO THE SAILFISH POINT PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO MOVE THE HANEY CREEK TO ANOTHER DAY SO WE CAN GET ITS FULL, YOU KNOW, DO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOB TO MOVE THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM D AND D ITEM. DO YOU HAVE A DATE CERTAIN OR IS IT JUST YOU WANT TO JUST TABLE IT? NO, I DON'T WANT TO TABLE IT. WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING OR THE FIRST COMMISSION MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. WHAT WOULD THAT DATE BE? THE NEXT MEETING IS THE FIRST IN SEPTEMBER. IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, JULY. YEAH, YOU SKIPPED A MONTH ON ME. YOU'RE GOING TO AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER. SO SEPTEMBER WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 14TH FOR THE FIRST MEETING. SO FOR THE FIRST READING ON THE 14TH OF SEPTEMBER. CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. IT'S NOT A READING, IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION DELIBERATION. RIGHT. I WILL REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP. THERE'S DEADLINES. SO IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT, THAT WILL NOT MAKE THE ELECTION. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A REFERENCE. WHAT'S THE REFERENDUM DEADLINE? LEE, I DON'T I MEAN, I COULD FIND IT IN MY EMAIL. I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY CLERK. AUGUST 21ST. YEAH. 
          SO OKAY, SO WE COULD MEETING IN AUGUST. OKAY. WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. 
          THAT'S JUST A D AND D, SO YEAH, THERE'S HAVE ENOUGH TIME. YES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO DO ANYTHING ANYWAY. YEAH. IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO WORK WITH HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM. IT'S ONLY A RESOLUTION ONE MEETING NOT THE SAILFISH BALL FIELDS REFERENDUM WOULD BE TWO MEETINGS. IT'S AN ORDINANCE. SO JUST SO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. OKAY, SO IF WE COULD MOVE THAT TO THE 1ST AUGUST MEETING, THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM. YEAH, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I'M JUST LETTING IT SUFFICES TO WHERE I'M JUST I'M STILL. I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME. I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOB TO MOVE THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM D AND D ITEM TO THE SIXTH. AUGUST. IT'S THE 10TH 10TH MEETING AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RICH. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THIS MOTION? JUST MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A GREEN CARD AFTER AND THEN YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN JUST STATE YOUR NAME. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. YEAH. YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THE ON THE MOTION. THIS WOULD BE ON THE MOTION. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. 
          WELL, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE UP HERE FROM THE DAIS FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE, THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW. IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. YOU GET THREE MINUTES. I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT I ALREADY HAVE. YEP. JUST MAKE SURE YOU START THE RECORD. THIS IS EMILY LANTHIER. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M EMILY LANTHIER, A RESIDENT WHO LIVES IN NORTH RIVER SHORES. 
          THE EXIT OF MY SUBDIVISION IS AT NORTH SHORES BOULEVARD, DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SMALL CITY OWNED PARCEL THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR POSSIBLE SALE FOR DEVELOPMENT OR RETAINED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT FOR RECREATIONAL USE, STORMWATER RETENTION, AND AS A HABITAT FOR A VARIETY OF NATIVE FLORA AND FAUNA. I HAVE FOLLOWED WITH INTEREST YOUR DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THIS PARCEL, AND AGREE WITH THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SUGGESTING THE CITY RESIDENTS BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON HOW THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE USED. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT IF AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN PERFORMED ON THE PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THAT BEFORE THE REFERENDUM TAKES PLACE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENTS SHOULD BE COMPLETED, MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE VOTERS WILL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN HAS ANY NOTABLE RESOURCES. I KNOW THE CITY IS ADJOINING. HANEY CREEK PROPERTIES HAVE A VARIETY OF UPLAND AND WETLAND HABITATS, SOME OF WHICH PROVIDE HABITAT FOR STATE LISTED AND OR FEDERALLY LISTED, ENDANGERED AND THREATENED SPECIES. KNOWING WHETHER THIS PARCEL HAS ANYTHING OF NOTE WOULD HELP THE CITY, VOTERS AND PROSPECTIVE BUYERS ALL GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF ITS POTENTIAL USE, WHETHER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION, IF THERE ARE NOTABLE RESOURCES PRESENT OR FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF THERE ARE NO NOTABLE RESOURCES PRESENT. I'M A STUDENT IN BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE CURRICULUM AT IRSC, AND I BELIEVE THAT MEMBERS OF THE MARTIN COUNTY CHAPTER, THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AND OTHERS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONALS IN CONDUCTING FIELD ASSESSMENT PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS SUGGESTION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION, MARY? OKAY. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THE MOTION IS CLEAR THAT WE'D BE PULLING THE 
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HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM TO THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, CORRECT? AUGUST 10TH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN ROLL CALL ON THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NON AGENDA 
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RELATED ITEMS. JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. I HAVE ELENA CARROLL. AND IF YOU HAVE MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAND OUT TO US FROM THE DAIS, YOU CAN TURN THEM INTO THE CLERK AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL. SO THAT WON'T TAKE UP YOUR THREE MINUTES. WELCOME. EVERYBODY. SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH. MY NAME IS ELENA AND I, OWNER OF HERITAGE HALL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. I PUT YOUR MIC CLOSER TO YOU. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. 
          MY LLC ON HERITAGE HALL AT THE FIRST HIGHWAY. AND IT'S A HOME FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH USUALLY ARE THE WOMEN OWN OR MINORITIES OR, AND ELDERLY PEOPLE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CITY OF STUART IS GROWING. AND THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE LEADERSHIP, IS VERY, VERY BUSY WITH VERY. WITH A NEW PROJECT. AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN STORES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY GAS, INSURANCE AND UTILITY BILL, AND USUALLY THERE ARE MAINTENANCE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TO MENTION, IS THERE A PLACE IN THE STUART THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES OWNER? AND IF YOU LOOK AT MY CASE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE VIOLATION CE2621 SO THE ANSWER IS NO. FOR THE LAST EIGHT, EIGHT MONTHS, THE HERITAGE HALL WAS JUST LIKE HAVE BEEN UNDER CONSTANT SEARCH FOR THE NEW VIOLATION. AND IT'S IT STARTED IN DECEMBER 9TH WHEN FIRE SAFETY INSPECTOR ALEXIS CAMPBELL, THIS CAPRI SOLICITOR, CAME TO INSPECT ONE OF MY TENANT UNIT 203. AND THEY TOLD THE TENANT, JUST LIKE A TENANT FILE FAILS THE VIOLATION. AND I OVERHEAR THAT AND MY BUILDING IS UNDER MY BUILDING IS SURE BUT LICENSED SUBCONTRACTOR. AND IT WAS SURPRISE FOR ME BECAUSE FIRE EXTINGUISHER ALWAYS IN PLACE AND LAST THREE YEARS THERE WAS NO PROBLEM. SO I START TO SPEAK WITH INSPECTOR COMP AND ASK HER, DID SHE EVER DID SHE MEASURE THAT AND WHY IS IN VIOLATION? AND SHE TOLD ME JUST LIKE BASICALLY, NO, SHE DOES NOT MEASURE. SHE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IT AND SHE DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A TAPE MEASURE. SO I PROVIDE THE TAPE MEASURE AND IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE. SO MY TENANTS 203 PASS INSPECTION. BUT AFTER THAT I HAVE NON STOP JUST LIKE FOR EIGHT MONTHS NON STOP INSPECTIONS FROM ALL POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS. SO AND FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2023, MY BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE A BACKFLOW PREVENTION INSTALL. OKAY. SORRY. YEAH. THAT WAS THAT WAS YOUR THREE MINUTES. ELENA. WE APPRECIATE YOU DROPPING THIS PACKET OFF TO US. OKAY. YEAH, BUT WE WON'T GET INTO A DEBATE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS I'LL I'LL ADDRESS IT. I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER THIS MORNING ABOUT IT, AND THERE IS A STAFF MEETING COMING UP THIS THURSDAY WITH, I BELIEVE, THE APPLICANT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS ADDRESS AND STAFF AS WELL, TO GO OVER EVERYTHING IN THIS PACKET. CORRECT. MIKE. 10 A.M. ON THURSDAY. THANK YOU. MARY, DO YOU HAVE THE NEXT. I DO, MATTHEW. MONDO. WELCOME, MATTHEW. AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MATTHEW MONDO. I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT IN THE MARTIN COUNTY AREA, ALSO SERVING CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE, SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK DISCUSSION REGARDING THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE SUITES IN OUR COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY WITH ATLANTIS BUILDING. JUST ASKING THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER ANY 
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POLICY OR REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD FORCE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COMBINE SMALLER EXECUTIVE SUITES INTO LARGER OFFICE SPACES MARKET. THAT MARKET'S TELLING US SOMETHING IMPORTANT. 
          SMALLER SUITES ARE NOT A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. IT'S A PRODUCT OF THE LOCAL LOCAL BUSINESS ACTIVITY AND NEED CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. CURRENT LOCAL MARKET CONDITIONS SHOW SMALLER EXECUTIVE SUITES MAINTAIN A RELATIVELY LOW VACANCY RATE COMPARED TO LARGER TRADITIONAL STANDALONE OFFICES. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO SEE DEMAND FROM SOLO PROFESSIONALS, STARTUPS, CONSULTANTS, SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES WHO DO NOT NEED AND OFTEN CAN'T AFFORD A LARGE, TRADITIONAL OFFICE SPACE. THE BUILDING, SPECIFICALLY AT 1320 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS HERITAGE HALL, IS HOME TO A NUMBER OF MINORITY OWNED AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES. MUNICIPALITIES OFTEN SEEK TO ENCOURAGE ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND EXPAND ECONOMIC PARTICIPATION AMONG THESE GROUPS, A POLICY THAT ARTIFICIALLY SHIFTS THE AVAILABLE INVENTORY TOWARD LARGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE SPACES WILL WORK AGAINST THAT OBJECTIVE. FOR MANY OF THE BUSINESSES, A SMALLER EXECUTIVE SUITE IS NOT MERELY A PREFERENCE, IT'S WHAT MAKES IT OPERATING IN THE BUSINESS FINANCIALLY POSSIBLE. REQUIRING BUSINESSES TO LEASE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SPACE THAN THEY NEED COULD INCREASE THEIR OCCUPANCY COSTS BEYOND WHAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN. SOME MAY BE FORCED TO RELOCATE, RETURN TO WORKING FROM HOME, REDUCE STAFF OR CLOSE ALTOGETHER. ELIMINATING SMALLER SUITES DOES NOT GENERATE LARGER DEMAND. 
          DEMAND FOR LARGER SUITES, IT SIMPLY REMOVES AFFORDABLE AND PRACTICAL CHOICES FROM THE MARKET. ECONOMIST THOMAS HAS CONSISTENTLY ENCOURAGED POLICYMAKERS TO EVALUATE POLICY NOT ONLY BY ITS INTENTIONS, BUT ALSO THE INCENTIVES, TRADE OFFS AND REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES IT CREATES. THIS PRINCIPLE IS ESPECIALLY RELEVANT HERE. THE CITY DOESN'T ASSUME FINANCIAL RISK ASSOCIATED WITH VACANCIES, MAINTENANCE, FIXED AND VARIABLE OPERATING EXPENSES, OR TENANT TURNOVER. THOSE RISKS ARE CARRIED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESS TENANTS. 
          GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT SUBSTITUTING HIS JUDGMENT FOR DECISIONS WHO HAVE DIRECT FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE OUTCOME. PRESERVING THESE SPACES SUPPORTS ENTREPRENEURSHIP ON ALL LEVELS, LOCAL EMPLOYMENT AND MORE ACCESSIBLE AND BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION, MATTHEW. YES, THIS THIS IS WHAT YOU DROPPED OFF WITH OFFICE SUITES, RIGHT? OR IS THIS OKAY? SO THIS WAS PRIOR. OKAY. OH NO, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MATTHEW. ANDREW COMBS WELCOME, ANDREW. AND THE DOCUMENTS HE WAS REFERENCING WAS DROPPED OFF BY ME. YEAH. HELLO. I'M ANDY COMBS. I'M A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER AND A STUDENT IN THE CITY OF STUART AND A TENANT IN THE BUILDING, 1320, WHICH IS REFERENCED HERITAGE HALL. I MOVED IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S VERY WELL KEPT IN GOOD CONDITION. I LIKE THE BUILDING. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BUILDING WHEN I OPENED MY BUSINESS IN 2000, IT HAD TRASH ALL AROUND, ALWAYS LOOKED DINGY AND DIRTY. THERE APPEARED TO BE A HOMELESS PERSON SLEEPING IN THE PARKING AREA IN THE BACK. THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE BUILDING WHEN I MOVED IN IN 2023 THAN WHEN I ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT IT IN 2000, AND THAT WAS THANKS TO THE THE PURCHASER WHO OWNS IT SINCE 2023. ELENA, I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE TENANTS OF HERITAGE HALL. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN MISSED IN THE WHOLE ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN GOING THROUGH BETWEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ZONING IS THERE'S 34 BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING. AND THE LAST CONSENT ORDER THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE CITY WAS TO REMEDIATE THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1986. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY WANT EVERY WALL, EVERY IMPROVEMENT, LEGAL, ILLEGAL, ANYTHING THEY WANT TO REMOVE BACK TO 1986. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EVICT EVERY TENANT IN THE BUILDING. EVERY BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO MOVE. SO FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE THE CITY HAS TALKED ABOUT THERE'S TOO MANY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS BASED ON SUITES. I PROVIDED YOU GUYS A LAYOUT, WHICH MAKES IT VERY EASY TO SEE. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FLOOR PLAN, WHAT'S IN THE PACKAGE? THE FLOOR PLAN HAS ALL THE BUSINESS NAMES. IT'S ON PAGE, I THINK THREE AND FOUR OF THE PACKET. I HAD IT BROKEN OUT SO YOU CAN SEE IT LINEARLY LINEAR LIKE A SHOPPING PLAZA. IF YOU LOOK DOWN IT, YOU CAN SEE EACH SUITE, WHICH IS AN OFFICIAL MAILING ADDRESS. AND THEY WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. SUITES ARE TWO ROOMS. TYPICALLY, THEY WERE PROBABLY ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR LIKE A SECRETARY AND AN ATTORNEY OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IN THE WORLD. WE REALLY DON'T USE SECRETARIES ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, RECEPTIONISTS, THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS ARE REPLACING THEM. AND WHAT THE LANDLORD HAS DONE IS PUT TWO TENANTS IN EACH OF THE SUITES. 
          THEY'RE SEPARATE ROOMS. IT'S NOT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF BODIES, THE BUILDING BY SQUARE FOOTAGE. IF YOU TAKE IT OFF THE WEBSITE, IF YOU TAKE SQUARE FOOTAGE DIVIDED BY ONE, 50, 71 PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING. THERE'S 34 TENANTS CURRENTLY, AND THE SUITES ARE ALL LAID OUT FOR YOU. SO PART OF WHAT WE WANT THE CITY CONSIDER IS THERE'S THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S TOO MANY WALLS IN THE BUILDING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE WALLS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR DECADES. SO FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK ELENA TOUCHED ON THE FIRE INSPECTION, THE FIRE INSPECTOR. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. AND I THINK YOUR REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE. THE INSPECTION OCCURRED. THE INSPECTOR IDENTIFIED A FAILURE TO THE TENANT. AND WHEN THE THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER NOT BEING WITHIN FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE. WHEN THE LANDLORD HEARD IT, SHE WAS CONFIDENT HER FIRE EXTINGUISHER WAS IN WITHIN THE RIGHT RIGHT RANGE. SHE ASKED THE INSPECTOR IF SHE HAD 
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MEASURED IT. THE INSPECTOR SAID SHE DID NOT. SHE WENT AND GOT THE INSPECTOR. A TAPE MEASURE HELD THE END OF THE TAPE MEASURE AND THE INSPECTOR WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER WAS WITHIN RANGE. THEY HAD TO PASS THE TENANT AND IT'S BEEN COMPLETE RETALIATION EVER SINCE THEN. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE JOHN MORGAN. WELCOME, JOHN. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO TODAY THE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND TWO OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THE STEWARD ENVIRONMENT ARE GOD AND COUNTRY. BUT ONE THING THAT I'VE BEEN SEEING MORE AND MORE THAT I DON'T LOVE IS THE ALLOWANCE OF A PRIVATE COMPANY TO MANUFACTURE CAMERAS THAT ARE NOT SO SUBTLY CREATING A MASS SURVEILLANCE STATE. AND THIS PRIVATE COMPANY IS KNOWN AS FLOCK NOW FLOCKS WEBSITE. IT STATED THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT MASS SURVEILLANCE, BLATANTLY. THE WEBSITE EVEN GOES AS FAR TO SAY, QUOTE, FLOCKS ALPERS, WHICH ARE AN AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER, DO NOT AND CANNOT TRACK VEHICLES, END QUOTE. AND IT'S GREAT THAT THEY SAY THIS, BUT IN TRUTH, THE STATEMENT DOESN'T HOLD A DROP OF WATER. WHEN YOU DIG IN EACH INCH DEEPER. IF THESE CAMERAS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE A PICTURE OF YOUR VEHICLE, KNOWING WHERE YOU ARE AND WHEN YOU WERE THERE, THERE IS THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF TRACKING. NOW, WHEN YOU PAIR MULTIPLE OF THESE PICTURES TOGETHER OVER THE COURSE OF A TRIP, SUCH AS THE ONE THAT I TOOK TO GET FROM MY HOUSE TO HERE, THIS IS WHAT MASS SURVEILLANCE REALLY LOOKS LIKE IN ACTION. WHAT'S EVEN WORSE THAN THIS IS THAT THE INFORMATION COLLECTED IN THIS DATA BREACH IS BEING PUT INTO A SEARCHABLE ONLINE DATABASE FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW. A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE THE BESSEMER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN NORTH CAROLINA. THIS PARTICULAR CLIENT OF FLOCK HAD OVER 20 ALP HOURS OVER THE SPAN OF 30 DAYS. WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE 72,000 UNIQUE AND DISTINCT VEHICLES. 
          THIS THAT IS BEING SHARED WITH OVER 2000 ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. AND REMEMBER, THIS IS FROM A SINGLE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVERYONE BETWEEN LARGE CORPORATIONS AND THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF. YOUR INFORMATION IS BEING TAKEN WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT, PUT IN A DATABASE AND IS BEING SENT TO COMPANIES THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. ON TOP OF THAT, IN THE COMPANY'S FAQS, THEY STATE, QUOTE, NOBODY FROM FLOCK IS ACCESSING YOUR INFORMATION, END QUOTE. ONCE AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T HOLD THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF WATER BECAUSE AFTER A SERIES OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS FROM A MAN NAMED JASON HUNYOR, IT WAS SHOWN THAT NOT ONLY WERE FLOCK EMPLOYEES ACCESSING YOUR DATA, THEY WERE FACILITATING ADDITIONAL ACCESS FOR MULTIPLE THIRD PARTIES. EVEN MORE SHADY THAN THAT, BLOCK EMPLOYEES WERE MASKING CERTAIN ACCOUNTS FROM HAVING THEIR SEARCHES APPEAR IN AUDITS. THEY WERE ALSO FOUND ACCESSING LIVE CAMERAS ON PREVIOUS RECORDINGS. THE VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, HIS NAME IS BOB CARTER, WAS FOUND VIEWING A CAMERA OF A CHILDREN'S GYMNASTICS ROOM DURING WHAT WAS CALLED A SALES DEMONSTRATION. YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY A LICENSE PLATE READER IS FACING A GYMNASTICS ROOM, AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE BLOCK DOESN'T ONLY PRODUCE ALPR. TYPICALLY, THE MOST HORRIFYING EXAMPLE OF THEIR TECH IS A PTZ, WHICH OUR CAMERAS DESIGNED TO TRACK HUMAN TARGETS. THEIR PURPOSE MADE TO TRACK YOUR FACE. NOW, EVEN IF YOU ARE SOMEHOW OKAY WITH THAT, IT GETS EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS STILL LEFT ON A PUBLIC DATABASE THAT ANYBODY WITH INTERNET CAN ACCESS. NOW, I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS ABOUT HOW THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL, BUT THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN, YOU SHOULD COME BACK TO OUR MEETING WHERE WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP FOR THE CAMERAS IN THE THE SCHOOL ZONES. I WILL TELL YOU, THIS BOARD MAJORITY LAST YEAR TURNED THEM AWAY. BUT YES, THAT'D BE A GOOD MEETING TO ATTEND AS WELL. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE JOHN PROVENZANO. WELCOME, JOHN. 
          SORRY, I KNOW I MISPRONOUNCED THAT, BUT THANK YOU. I'LL LET ME PULL UP MY SPEECH QUICK. 
          SORRY. HELLO. I'M JOHN PROVENZANO AND I'M A RESIDENT OF STUART, FLORIDA. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS FLOCK CAMERAS. FLOCK CAMERAS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN POPPING UP IN OUR SMALL COASTAL TOWN OF AROUND 40 TO 50,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S INSANE. AS OF JULY 4TH, 2026, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 6 TO 8 FLOCK CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. I JUST PASSED BY THREE COMING HERE. 
          THIS IS AN IDEOLOGY OF A SURVEILLANCE STATE. ALL MY LIFE I'VE BEEN LECTURED AND TOLD THAT CHINA IS SPYING ON US WITH ALL THESE CAMERAS AND STEALING OUR DATA. EVERY DAY I WAKE UP AND REALIZE IT'S AMERICA AND ALL THESE PRIVATE OWNED COMPANIES, THE FOUNDING FATHERS ARE ROLLING IN THEIR GRAVES, WATCHING AS AMERICA IS TURNED INTO A SURVEILLANCE STATE OWNED BY BILLIONAIRES AND FOREIGN NATIONS. IT'S A CLEAR AND DIRECT QUOTE OF OUR VIOLATION OF OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHT, WHICH FORBIDS UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES. FLIGHT 
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CAMERAS HAVE BEEN SEARCHING AND SEIZING OUR INFORMATION WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION, PUTTING IT INTO A DATABASE WHICH CANNOT BE REGULATED BY A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FLOCK. CAMERAS CAN TRACK THE WAY YOU WALK, THE WAY YOU TALK, AND EVEN YOUR EYE COLOR. NOBODY WANTS. THESE CAMERAS IN GENERAL, OUR OWN UP TO OWN UP TO THE MISTAKES WHICH YOU HAVE MADE, WHICH I RECENTLY HEARD, WERE THAT YOU TURN THEM AWAY, WHICH IS GOOD. NOBODY WANTS TO SPY ON US. I'D LIKE TO END BY QUOTING ABRAHAM LINCOLN. THOSE WHO DENY FREEDOM TO OTHERS DESERVE IT. NEITHER FOR THEMSELVES. OUR COUNTRY HAS GONE BACKWARDS BECAUSE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T REPRESENT OR CARE FOR US IN THER CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR BILLIONAIRES AND FOREIGN NATIONS AND COMPANIES WHICH DO NOT WANT US IN OUR BEST VALUES. THANK YOU. JANINE ALEXANDER, FOR CLARIFICATION. IT WAS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE SPECIFICALLY FOR SPEEDING TICKETS, BUT I'M SURE THE FLOCK STUFF, IT'S GARNERING ATTENTION. SO YEAH, GREAT. THANKS, GUYS. WELCOME, JANINE. FOR THE. EMAIL. MAKE SURE YOU COME TO THE MIC SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU. WELL, I USED TO BE BIOLOGY AND I HAD TO FORGET MY VOICE AT THE END OF A VERY LONG CLASSROOM WITHOUT MICROPHONE. I EMAILED THE COMMISSION MEMBERS DOCUMENTS TO PRINT SO THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABSORBING THE COST OF PRINTING EVERY TIME I COME. THIS IS MY SEVENTH MONTH. THE CLOCK CAN BEGIN. I GAVE YOU ALL A STUDY GUIDE TONIGHT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I'D TAKE A DIFFERENT FORMAT WITH MY PRESENTATION TO RESEMBLE A CLASSROOM, WHICH I SPENT 16 YEARS OF MY LIFE IN UNTIL FEBRUARY 15TH 27TH OF 2015, WHEN AN INCIDENT FOREVER CHANGED MY LIFE. A DOMESTIC INCIDENT WHERE POLICE FAILED TO COLLECT EVIDENCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR OWN POLICIES. POLICY 27, SECTION THREE, PARAGRAPH A FOR OFFICERS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED, AUTHORIZED TO OPEN, ALTER, DELETE OR EDIT DIGITAL MEDIA IN ANY FASHION. SO WHAT I'M DEALING WITH TONIGHT IS QUESTION NUMBER ONE FOR THE COMMISSION. MISTER BAGUETTE WAS ASSIGNED THE TASK ON DECEMBER 8TH OF 2026 TO RESEARCH AND REPORT TO THE COMMISSION. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL TASK HE WAS ASSIGNED TO RESEARCH? HE WAS ASSIGNED THE TASK OF RESEARCHING SIRB HEARINGS. I WAS ENTITLED TO 1 IN 2018 AFTER I SUBMITTED A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT TO MICHAEL MORTEL AND NICOLE KING OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. DAVID ROSS WAS NO LONGER IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT TERMINATION AT THAT TIME. I HAVE NEVER DISCUSSED, NEVER COMMUNICATED IN ANY FASHION WITH DAVE ROSS UNTIL RECENTLY. THE FINGER OF BLAME HAS BEEN POINTED REPEATEDLY AT DAVE ROSS. WHEN MICHAEL MARTEL WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT SPEARHEADED THE INVESTIGATION AND HANDLING MY COMPLAINT AND DENIED AN S I ARB HEARING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FINALIZE MY COMPLAINT, I WAS DENIED THAT HEARING. IT'S AN EMAIL. CONVERSATIONS WITH MICHAEL MARTEL. NUMBER TWO QUESTION. THE CORRECT ANSWER FOR MR. BAGUETTE SAKE WAS TO GATHER INSIGHT ABOUT THE SERB PROCESS THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AT THE TIME, NOT THE NEW LEGISLATION IN 2024. QUESTION TWO, IN REFERENCE TO LEE, BEGETS BACKGROUND OF JANUARY 2626. THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, PARAGRAPH TWO, WHO IMPLIED THAT JANINE ALEXANDER MYSELF, CAUSED AN OPEN WOUND TO AN ELDERLY NEIGHBOR'S FACE. THAT IMPLICATION WAS MADE BY MR. LEE BAGUETTE IN HIS BACKGROUND. COMMENTS. ON JANUARY 2626. NEVER DID I IMPLICATE HARM TO MISS JOYCE O'CONNELL'S FACE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR FACTS ARE IMPORTANT WHEN YOU MAKE THESE KINDS OF ASSERTIONS. OTHERWISE IT CONSTITUTES DEFAMATION. YOU CAN READ. YOU CAN READ QUESTION THREE AND THE FINAL STAGES OF SRB AND CONTINUE TO QUESTION 16 AND THEREAFTER IT'S THREE MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? I, SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR YOU, NOT UNLESS ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS DO. THESE QUESTIONS ARE PRESENTED TONIGHT TO IDENTIFY THAT LEE BAGUETTE COMMITTED DEFAMATION ON JANUARY 26TH OF 2026. AND I HAVE TO GIVE YOU FIVE DAYS WARNING BEFOREHAND. BUT YOU HAD THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I WANT TO MAKE IT FAIR TO EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE. WHAT I WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD, AND 
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THIS IS NOT A BACK AND FORTH EXCHANGE, JANINE. IT'S MORE SO FOR ME TO CLARIFY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS WAS SENT TO US AND THERE'S BEEN LEGAL PROCEEDING REGARDING A POTENTIAL SETTLEMENT. LEE THIS THIS SRB BOARD DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE BECAUSE OF FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS ENACTED IN 2024. THE STATUTE WAS LET ME SPEAK. THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS PREEMPTED BY FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE AN SAIRB. THAT'S TRUE. I KNOW I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SINCE AUGUST OF 2024, BUT ANY TIME THERE'S BEEN LIKE SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION, IT'S USUALLY BEEN FROM LIKE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL OR FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR CHARTERED POSITION LEGAL STAFF. AND REGARDING THIS, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED TO US COMMISSIONERS. AS FAR AS LIKE LEGAL ADVICE FOR US TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. WE HAVE A LEGAL MATTER CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE. CORRECT. SO HER CASE WAS DISMISSED AGAIN A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND SHE HAS APPEALED IT TO THE FOURTH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS. SO IT'S STILL A PENDING LITIGATION MATTER. JANINE, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER, THOUGH. IT WAS THREE MINUTES. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. I WAS JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO. YEAH. I'M JUST. YEAH. SO IT'S A LEGAL MATTER AND IT'S IN THE COURTS. IT'S A LEGAL MATTER, BUT IT'S IN LITIGATION. SO EVERYTHING'S A LEGAL MATTER. 
          BUT IT'S AN ACTIVE LITIGATION. SO. ALL RIGHT. SHE RECENTLY APPEALED THE DISMISSAL OF HER CASE TO OUR APPELLATE COURT DOWN IN WEST PALM BEACH. AND THAT IS ACTIVE. AND WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM THAT'S BEING PAID BY OUR INSURANCE COMPANY. WE HAVE A CLAIMS ADJUSTER THAT IS HANDLING THE BILLS. AND IN THE CASE. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. SURE. I JUST DON'T YOU'RE. IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A AN ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION WITH YOU ALL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME ONE WAS DONE. I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. THAT WE'VE HAD ONE ON IT. I DON'T I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN A PART OF ONE EITHER. BUT THE CASE HAS BEEN DISMISSED. 
          SO. IT AND THERE'S BEEN THREE LAWSUITS AND YOU'VE HEARD HER TODAY. SHE'S GOING TO FILE ANOTHER ONE. SHE'S PUTTING US ON NOTICE. SO YOU HAVE FOUR LAWSUITS, BUT ALL THREE HAVE BEEN DISMISSED. AND SHE'S APPEALED THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN DENIED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY. SO EXCEPT FOR THE CURRENT ONE SHE JUST STARTED. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, LEE. SURE. YES. MARY. NEXT I HAVE WILLIAM RUDGE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER. BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS EMAIL ME JANINE. OR YOU CAN EMAIL US BOARD MEMBERS. CORRECT. AND THE ONLY THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT IS TO GET A BOARD CONSENSUS OF THREE UP HERE, OR FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT IT ON. SO. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS WILLIAM ROACHE OF 1701 SOUTHWEST PALM CITY ROAD. MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE AWARE OF SOME SIGNIFICANTLY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS AGAINST A NUMBER OF CITY OFFICIALS IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS SERVANTS OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART. A GREAT MANY OF THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE SERIOUS FELONIES, INCLUDING FRAUD UPON THE COURT, PERJURY IN COURT BY AN ATTORNEY, FRAUD UPON THIS VERY COMMISSION, MALFEASANCE, VIOLATIONS OF THE FLORIDA AND FEDERAL CONSTITUTION AND ADDITIONALLY, RICO AND HOBBS ACT VIOLATIONS. THESE ARE SOME SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS THAT NEED DEMAND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. YOU AND THIS COMMISSION HAVE THE RIGHT AND EVEN THE OBLIGATION TO YOUR CITIZENS TO CONDUCT A THOROUGH, IMPARTIAL INVESTIGATION. CALL WITNESSES, COLLECT EVIDENCE, IMPARTIAL DOCUMENTATION. AND SINCE THIS MAKES DOZENS OF TIMES I HAVE OFFICIALLY INFORMED THIS COMMISSION OF THESE ALLEGATIONS SINCE LAST YEAR. I SUGGEST YOU GET STARTED CLEANING UP THIS DISASTROUS MESS POSTHASTE. BEFORE I HAND OVER SOME DOCUMENTS. I HAVE A COPY FOR EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE ATTORNEY AND THE MANAGER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. FOR THE RECORD, TO ALL THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT I HANDED OVER ALL THOSE OTHER TIMES FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. WHAT ARE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS? WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, AND HOW COME I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANY ACKNOWLEDGMENT? CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? OKAY, I GUESS NOT. THANK YOU. SO I WON'T GO TO BACK AND FORTH EXCHANGE, BUT THIS IS PART OF WHAT I SPOKE WITH THE THE CITY MANAGER ON THIS MORNING IS RESOLVING THESE PAST CASES, WHETHER IT'S THE RUDGE'S, THE STANKOVIC'S, WHICH BY THE WAY, I WAS ONE OF TWO THAT SUPPORTED YOUR STUFF COMING BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM. 
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STANKOVIC I WAS ONE OF TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SUPPORTED YOUR STUFF COMING BACK. BUT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ISSUES IN THE CITY. JUST TRYING TO GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. SOME OF THEM, LIKE STATED BY LEE, ARE LEGAL MATTERS. AND THERE'S COURT CASES THAT ARE ONGOING, GETTING APPEALED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT DIRECTION TO GO IN. I KNOW AS FAR AS THE RUDGE'S, WE HAD AN EMAIL WHERE THEY WANTED CARRIE LINEKER'S REMOVED FROM THE CASE, I BELIEVE, AND SOME OF THESE THINGS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE OR WHAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW FOR SOME OF THESE LEGAL MATTERS. IF IF US AS BOARD MEMBERS ARE JUST SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK BECAUSE THERE'S COURT CASES THAT ARE ONGOING OR GETTING APPEALED, IT'S HARD SOMETIMES FOR US TO INTERJECT BECAUSE I'M NOT ONE, I'M NOT A JUDGE, AND TWO, I'M NOT A JURY. 
          I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GO THROUGH THESE CASES TO COME UP WITH SETTLEMENTS ON THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, TO UNPACK IT. LIKE I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUT OF MY SCOPE OF A TITLE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM FACILITATING PUBLIC RECORDS, FACILITATING MEETINGS. IF YOU NEED MEETINGS WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR CHARTERED POSITIONS. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT, BUT IT'S HARD FOR A MOTION TO BE HAD UP HERE TO SAY, HEY, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY X, Y, Z AMOUNT TO THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT I'M NOT SURE OF. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ON THAT. I'M NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE BODY. KAREN. 
          HALL. YOST. REG. WELCOME, KAREN. WELL, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ATTENTION. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. KAREN HALL YOST, REG 1701 SOUTHWEST PALM CITY ROAD. SO YES, MAYOR, THAT WAS VERY NICE TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE YES, WE WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU GUYS TO MAKE A DECISION. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO BE A JUDGE OR A JURY. WE HAVE TOLD YOU CONTINUALLY THAT THIS COREY LENEGRE HAS DEFRAUDED THE COURT. WE'VE SHOWN YOU HOW SHE'S DONE IT. 
          THIS WAS THE FED COURT AND THE STATE COURT. SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IS MAYBE YOU ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND SAY, LET'S HAVE HONEST ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS ARE PAYING FOR THESE ATTORNEYS, AND WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO DO HONEST THINGS. SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW I SENT A RETURN RECEIPT TO THE CITY OF STUART ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NOT JUST TO THE CITY OF STUART. SO IT WAS A RETURN RECEIPT. AND I REACHED OUT TO MR. BAGGETT, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, TO ASK HIM WHO SIGNED FOR IT, BECAUSE IT WAS RETURN RECEIPT. AND HIS ANSWER WAS, WE DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT KEEP TRACK OF WHO SIGNS THE CERTIFIED RETURN RECEIPT CARDS. THE SIGNED RETURN RECEIPT CARD WOULD HAVE BEEN RETURNED TO YOU BY THE POST OFFICE. YES, IN THE REAL WORLD THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, BUT IT NEVER DID. SO I AM SAYING THIS IS A BAD POLICY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CALL IT POLICY, BUT THAT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS LIKE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO RETURN THE RECEIPT. 
          RIGHT. I CAN UNDERSTAND IF THIS WAS MORGAN AND MORGAN UP THERE AND YOU HAD A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS, BUT THIS IS CRAZY THAT YOU GUYS, IF SOMEBODY SENDS A RETURN RECEIPT TO YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO SIGNED FOR IT. HOW CAN THAT BE? YOU MUST HAVE THAT. AND IF YOU DON'T, BECAUSE THESE ARE LEGAL MATTERS WHEN IT'S GOING. IF SOMEBODY SUED THE CITY OR THE CITY SUED SOMEBODY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE DOING A RETURN RECEIPT. HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHO SIGNED FOR IT? EVEN IF IT'S THE WATER DEPARTMENT GETTING SOMETHING? THIS IS OUR CITY. WE WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING. AND WE WANT IT IN WRITING. SO MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU ALL GET TOGETHER. WHY DO YOU HAVE A POLICY WHERE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO SIGNED THE RECEIPT? RETURN RECEIPT? THAT'S CRAZY. WE WANT TRANSPARENCY AND WE'LL GET IT. WE'LL KEEP GETTING RID OF Y'ALL TILL WE GET THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOOD. AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE MAYOR. AMEN. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. KAREN. KAREN. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR ]
SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN WE GET AN APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR BY COMMISSIONER JOB AND SECONDED 
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BY COMMISSIONER RICH. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY, IF YOU COULD ROLL, CALL COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MAYOR 
          [2. CRB AT LARGE APPOINTMENT (RC):     RESOLUTION No. 56-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE  CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA APPOINTING AN AT-LARGE MEMBER TO THE  COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD (CRB); FILLING A VACANCY ON THE  BOARD FOR THE REMAINING CURRENT TERM UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2026;  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
REED. YES. YES. MOTION PASSES. UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO COMMISSION ACTION, ITEM NUMBER TWO, CRB AT LARGE. APPOINTMENT RESOLUTION NUMBER 56-2026. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, APPOINTING AN AT LARGE MEMBER TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD, FILLING A VACANCY ON THE BOARD FOR THE REMAINING CURRENT TERM UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2026, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS REGARDING THIS? OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO DISCUSS THEM BEFOREHAND? I'LL KICK US OFF. I GUESS THERE WAS THREE APPLICANTS REGARDING THE ADVISORY BOARD APPLICATIONS FOR THE CRB AT LARGE APPOINTMENT. I KNOW CHRISTINE VOGEL. I SAT ON HER WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND SHE IS A CURRENT LICENSED ARCHITECT IN THE CITY OF STUART, SO SHE HAS EXPERIENCE. GARY KELLY IS ALSO A LICENSED ARCHITECT AS WELL IN THE CITY OF STUART, AND HE'S DONE MANY PROJECTS. IF I SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE AMONGST AMONGST ALL THE APPLICANTS WE'VE RECEIVED, I'D I'D LIKE TO SEE GARY KELLY FOR THE FIRST NOMINEE WITH CHRISTINE. I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION. I HAVE THE GAVEL. AND CHRISTINE VOGEL FOR A POTENTIAL SECOND. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, THOUGH I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE BOARD. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR GARY KELLY. WE GOT A SECOND OR. NO FURTHER COMMENT. I WOULD JUST I WOULD SWAP IT BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE KRISTINA VOGEL LIVES. SHE LIVES IN A CHARMING HOUSE AND A REALLY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF STUART. THEY'VE JUST DONE A TERRIFIC JOB ON THAT PROPERTY. THEY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, SO THEY HAVE A STRONG COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION. I JUST THINK SHE'S, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY WELL QUALIFIED. 
          AND SHE WOULD BE MY FIRST CHOICE. I THINK I IT DOES NOT DIMINISH THE QUALIFICATIONS OF. 
          MR. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK THAT DIDN'T GET A SECOND. SO THAT MOTION FAILS. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT TO THE AT LARGE POSITION. KRISTINA VOGEL I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 56 2026. APPOINTING CHRISTINE VOGEL FROM COMMISSIONER RICH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MY ONLY COMMENTS ARE IT IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH CHOICE. IT'S NOT EASY. THEY'RE BOTH QUALIFIED. I DON'T KNOW, GARY, I WOULD, BUT KRISTINA HAD BEEN ON AN ADVISORY BOARD. I KNOW I WAS GOING TO LOOK AT GARY'S BEEN ON AN ADVISORY BOARD BEFORE. SHE'LL SHE'LL HIT THE EXPERIENCE. HE HAS TIME TO. I KNOW GARY, IT SAYS HE WAS. IT SAYS FORMER MEMBER OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD 20 YEARS AGO. BUT EITHER WAY, I. I THINK BOTH ARE VERY WELL QUALIFIED TO REPRESENT THIS AT LARGE POSITION. ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COMMENTS OR. OTHER TO SAY KRISTINA VOGEL HAS ALREADY BEEN ON AN ADVISORY BOARD PROBABLY JUST THREE YEARS AGO. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WE THEN THAT WAS BEFORE THE BOARD WAS RESOLVED. IT WAS RESOLVED. IT WAS RESOLVED. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, MARY, IF YOU COULD ROLL CALL MOTION IS FOR KRISTINA VOGEL, CORRECT? COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. MAYOR. REED. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          [3. COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE - PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD CPUD  AMENDMENT (QUASI-JUDICIAL) (RC):    ORDINANCE No. 2555-2026; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE  CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE III OF THE  PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD);  PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE III OF  THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD CPUD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT  COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT WITH  TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA; PROVIDING  FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, A TIMETABLE FOR  DEVELOPMENT, AND MASTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND  LOCATED AT 1501 N.W. FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN  THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT “A”; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR  SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER  PURPOSES. ]
MRS. VOGEL, MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE FIRST READING REGARDING COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, KPD AMENDMENT. AND IT IS A QUASI JUDICIAL. SO MAKE SURE YOU PULL OUT YOUR YELLOW CARDS. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD. COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, KPD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT, WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT 
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PROVIDED FOR PROVIDING FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MASTER SITE PLAN. APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? COMMISSIONER RICH? I HAVE NONE WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER. COMMISSIONER JOB YES, I DID SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, I JUST SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TODAY. I HAVE NOT I HAVE NOTHING TO DISCLOSE. REALLY. MY EX PARTE WOULD BE FROM THE PRIOR LOCATION WHERE THE APPLICANT WAS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. THAT'D BE CONSIDERED EX PARTE. I ALSO DID HAVE EX PARTE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY LAST WEEK, AND THE DISCUSSION WAS BASICALLY ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ORDER WAS COMING IN FROM THE APPLICANT, AND THEY ALREADY HAD ONE IN THE WORKS. AND MY COMMENTS WERE I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE FIRST ONE SEE OWED BEFORE SEEING ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ORDER COME IN. BUT THOSE ARE MY EX PARTE COMMENTS. LEE, IF YOU COULD PLACE ANY POTENTIAL WITNESSES UNDER OATH. SURE. I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY LITTLE SPIEL ABOUT THE QUASI JUDICIAL FIRST. SO IN A QUASI QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, THE CITY COMMISSION STEPS OUTSIDE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE AND INTO A JUDICIAL CAPACITY. CITY COMMISSION WILL BE MAKING A DETERMINATION BY APPLYING EXISTING LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS TO THE FACTS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. 
          EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD, AND TESTIMONY NEEDS TO BE UNDER OATH. THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT OCCURRED PRIOR TO THE HEARING, WHICH THEY JUST DID WITH ALL POTENTIAL WITNESSES FOR THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF. PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IN THIS HEARING WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? OKAY, YOU MAY BE SEATED. I DID WANT TO ADD ONE MORE EX PARTE AS WELL. I MADE A FACEBOOK POST ON MY PAGE, BUT COMMENTS WERE TURNED OFF SO I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS. AND I TYPICALLY DO THAT FOR QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS. SO THERE IS AN EX PARTE. UNLESS SOMETHING DID COME TO MY EMAIL, I'LL MENTION MY EMAIL, BUT I'M NOT SPECIFIC OF ANY THAT DID COME THROUGH, BUT I'LL MENTION IT JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF IT DOES EXIST NOW, WILL THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA ITEM, INCLUDING THE LOCATION, SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, CURRENT ZONING ZONING REQUESTED, AND LIST THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO DEVIATE FROM THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, IF ANY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR REED AND BOARD MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODY COOGLER, THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OF CITY STEWART. TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE CORNERSTONE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, KPD. A PETITION TO DEVELOP A COFFEE RUSH. FAST FOOD, CONVENIENT RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WITHIN THE UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF LAND KNOWN AS PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER KPD. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. PURSUANT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 11.02.00 ON JUNE 22ND, 2026, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND A DATE AND TIME TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. ADDITIONALLY, TWO SIGNS WERE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE PROPERTY IS 7.79 ACRES AND IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH OF FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND NORTHWEST BAKER ROAD. THE CURRENT ZONING IS A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL. THIS IS THE AREA. THE AERIAL WHERE THE PROPOSED SITE IS GOING TO BE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S AT THE BOTTOM CORNER OF YOUR SCREEN. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT IN RED RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT SAYS THE PROPOSED COFFEE RUSH. THE ADJACENT USE AND ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE IS INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL CONSERVATION WITHIN MARTIN COUNTY'S JURISDICTION, INDUSTRIAL AND A RIGHT OF WAY OF COMMERCIAL. THE CURRENT USE ON THEM IS SELF STORAGE, WAREHOUSE, INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH AND A NURSERY IN HAYNIE CREEK PRESERVE AREA TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST IS A SELF STORAGE WAREHOUSE AND INDUSTRIAL FLEX, AND TO THE WEST IS A. THE NORTH WEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS THE OVERALL PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE SITE INCLUDES A 490 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES FOR 
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SERVING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND A WALK UP PEDESTRIAN WINDOW WITH AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA TO PROPOSE. COFFEE RUSH BUILDING IS NOT A TEMPORARY OR MODULAR BUILDING, BUT RATHER A CONCRETE MASONRY UNIT, THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE WALMART. THE PROPOSED PARKING REQUIRES ONE SPACE PER EMPLOYEES ON THE LARGEST SHIFT FOR EMPLOYEES, AND ONE SPACE PER 100FT■!S OF SERVICE AREA OF 325FT■!S IS MET ON SITE. 
          DEDICATED AS A FUTURE PHASE, WHICH IS GENERALLY THE FORMAL ORIGINAL PHASE THREE AREA WITH THE PROPOSED NEW EIGHT PARKING SPACES. A NEW LOADING ZONE IS ALSO LOCATED ON SITE. THE FIRE ACCESS PLAN SHOWS THE FIRE TRUCK, FIRE TRUCK ACCESS ROUTE FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICE. CONNECTIONS ARE ALREADY PROVIDED TO THE SITE AND ARE LOCATED AT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE COFFEE RUSH STORE. LOCATION REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE CONNECTIONS BY MARTIN COUNTY IS PENDING. PER THIS COMMERCIAL PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, UTILITY PLAN APPROVAL AND THE PRO AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE THE FOLLOWING NET EXTERNAL TRIPS 36 DAILY, 9 A.M. PEAK HOURS AND ONE PEAK HOUR. 
          ONE TRIP. THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN OVERALL OF JUST LOOKING THROUGH GOOGLE EARTH, JUST SHOWING WHERE THE LOCATION IS. AND IT'S A SITE THAT HAS THE YELLOW STAR. THAT IS THE LAST PHASE OF THIS PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT INCLUDES FIVE THAT THEY'LL BE INCLUDING FIVE GUMBO LIMBO TREES, FOUR HOLLY TREES, SIX CRAPE MYRTLES, TWO SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS, AND EIGHT SABLE PALMS. THE PLAN ALSO PROPOSES TO RELOCATION OF SIX EXISTING PALMETTO TREES ON SITE AND ONE EXISTING QUEEN PALM. THE PURPOSE. THE. THIS IS THE OVERALL WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. THE ONE IS THE CHANGE OF USE AND THE ORDINANCE OF. 210417 THE BANK WAS CONSIDERED THE PHASE THREE PORTION OF IT, AND IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE P D. THE CHANGE OF USE IS CHANGING IT FROM A BANK BUILDING TO A A SMALL FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. THE QUEUING, WHICH IS ALLOWING TWO LANE QUEUING, THE BYPASS LANE AND PARKING THEY ARE WAS REQUIRED 275. THEY'RE NOW PROPOSING 263 AND THE OPEN SPACE IS BEING REDUCED DOWN TO 18.54%. THIS IS THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL IN YOUR PACKET. I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO SWITCH OUT YOUR ARCHITECTURAL. BUT THESE ARE THE SAME COLORS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THE WALMART SITE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD. THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS INCORPORATE OVERHANGS, PEAKED ROOFS, DISPLAY WINDOWS, PAVERS, LATTICE SCREEN WALLS, AND THE COLORS HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO MATCH THE COFFEE RUSH THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE SIGNAGE INCLUDES ONE SINGLE FACE WALL SIGN WITH LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTERS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING. THIS WAS I SORRY, I DO HAVE THE SLIDES MIXED UP, I APOLOGIZE. ON JULY 9TH, 2026, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026 TO THE CITY COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT ACCORDANCE TO THIS, THIS PETITION CONFORMS WITH THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN SECTION 11.01.09 OF THE STEWART LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FLORIDA STATUTES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE CITY OF STEWART. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION TRANSMIT ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026 ON FIRST READING TO SECOND READING. AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STAFF'S PRESENTATION. WE ALSO HAVE ROBERT GOOD WITH THE GOOD GROUP, WHO IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, AND ALSO THE OWNER, WHICH IS RON YOST OF COFFEE RUSH. THAT'S HERE TONIGHT FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU JODY. SO NOW WE'LL WE'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO THE PETITIONER SO YOU CAN PRESENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ROBERT. GOOD ENGINEER RECORD CIVIL ENGINEER RECORD FOR THE PLANS AS WELL AS THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR PUBLIX AND FOR COFFEE RUSH, WHO RON YOST IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY COMPLETES A PROJECT HERE WITH THE PUBLIX SHOPPING CENTER. IT'S GOSH, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT ALMOST 18 YEARS SINCE THE APPROVAL, 18, 19 YEARS IS A WHILE, MAYBE 20. SO THIS IS THE FINAL PHASE. AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE PLAN THAT GOT 
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APPROVED ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO IN 2006, 2007, SEVEN, OKAY, 19 YEARS AGO, ALMOST 20. IN THAT PLAN, IT WAS PROPOSED THAT THE FINAL PHASE WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT A 3400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH DRIVE THROUGH. AND THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE A BANK. AND THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT STUDIED THAT BANK. AND AND AS WE SPEAK TO THE TRAFFIC, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT WERE PROPOSED IS WE'RE ESSENTIALLY IT'S DE MINIMIS BECAUSE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THAT WAS A 3400 SQUARE FOOT PROPOSED BUILDING BANK WOULD DRIVE THROUGH VERSUS WE'RE PROPOSING 635 GROSS SQUARE FEET. IT INCLUDES A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS. SO IT'S A GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE ACTUAL IN INDOOR AREAS LIKE 411FT■!S UNDER AIR. SO WITH DRIE THROUGH. SO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN MCKINSEY, WHO WE HAD STUDY EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ABOUT LESS THAN FIVE TIMES WHAT WAS PROPOSED PRIOR. AND I THINK IT MAKES A GREAT USE BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO TRAFFIC IN, IN, IN THAT BEING A LOT LESS OF A BUILDING SIZE AND DE MINIMIS, ACCORDING TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER MCKINSEY, WHICH IS ON FILE THAT REPORTS ON FILE IS WE'RE ALSO ADDING A LITTLE OVER 20 TREES. SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY GOOD. THAT LOCATION LOOKS GREAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO LOOK EVEN BETTER WITH OUR USE. SO IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT USE. IT'S VERY COMPLEMENTARY TO THE SHOPPING CENTER. AND I, I WOULD, AND I, EVERYTHING THAT THE DIRECTOR SAID, I CONCUR AND SEEK YOUR APPROVAL AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ROBERT, DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? JUST MAKE SURE WE USE THE LIGHT SYSTEM. THAT'S ALL I ASK. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WELL, OKAY, I'LL I'LL I'LL JUST ASK. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MY WRITTEN THING IN FRONT OF ME. 
          BUT JODY, COULD YOU GO OVER THE CONDITIONS AGAIN IF THERE ANY AMENDED CONDITIONS? AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST FIRST READING, BUT TO THE LAST PIECE HAS BEEN 20 YEARS. SO, SO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WERE IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE STATED THAT THEY, THEY. THIS PARTICULAR PHASE THREE HAD TO BE A BANK. SO ONE OF THEIR CONDITIONS IS TO HAVE A WAIVER TO CHANGE THE USE FROM A BANK BUILDING TO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS. 
          WE STILL MAINTAIN THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT WERE WITHIN 2007 ORDINANCE. WE ALSO ADDED A TIMELINE OF WHEN THEY ARE TO BE BUILT. SO THAT IS PROBABLY THE ADDED CONDITION WHEN THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT BY. SOME OF THE OTHER WAIVERS ARE THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO. THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL CONDITION. WAS THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT WHEN A PD THEY REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN 25%. HOWEVER, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AFTER THIS. THIS. FIRST, WHEN THE PUBLIX WAS APPROVED, THEY CAME IN. FDOT TOOK A BIG PORTION OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY ALONG BAKER AND THAT THAT DECREASES A LOT OF THEIR OPEN SPACE. SO WE'RE NOW JUST MEMORIALIZING THAT TO BE IN THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL. THE OTHER ONE IS THE PARKING SPACES. 
          THEY REDUCE SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES JUST TO HAVE SOME OF THE OPEN, OPEN AIR AREA AND TO HAVE THAT WALKABLE, WALKABLE UP TO THE, TO THE WINDOW AND ALSO HAVE A SEATING AREA SO PEOPLE CAN SIT AND ENJOY THEIR COFFEE. I DO BELIEVE THAT'S ONLY ISSUES OTHER THAN THE QUEUING AND THE, THE QUEUING, WHICH ARE DOING DOUBLE QUEUING JUST THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS COFFEE RUSH, JUST WILL HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FLOWS THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE SITE. IT WILL HELP OUT WITH TRAFFIC AND GET THE TRAFFIC MOVING IN AND OUT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVE THAT BIG WINDING UP BAND GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO BAKER OR OR UP TO US ONE. YEAH, THANKS. I HAD, LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T BRING MY NOTES AND I DON'T HAVE MY COMPUTER, BUT WHAT IS THE, THE NEW COMPLETION DATE? NOW IF THEY FOR THEIR FINAL PLAN APPROVAL, THEY HAVE A FIVE YEARS FROM TODAY FROM WHENEVER IT WAS APPROVED. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THESE NEW CONDITIONS. YES. THIS WAS THIS ACTUALLY THIS COFFEE RUSH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THE PREVIOUS COFFEE RUSH. WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE ABANDONMENT THE 
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FDOT DID, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY LOST FOR THE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE DRAINAGE THAT HAD HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, WHERE THEY HAD PERVIOUS PAVERS THAT FAILED. AND IT SAID IN THE ORDINANCE IN 2007, IF IT FAILED, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. SO WE DID. AND THEY ALREADY DO HAVE THEIR SOUTH WATER WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT THAT ADDRESSED THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TODAY, WHERE THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT FAILED ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAYS IN THE DRY WELLS. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? THAT DOES CONCLUDE THAT THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN WILL BE FINE AND THEY CAN WORK ON. THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. JOB. YES, JODY, AS YOU AND I SPOKE, THERE'S THAT ADDITIONAL ROAD THE COFFEE RUSH IS PUTTING IN THERE AN ADDITIONAL ROAD FOR. THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ROAD THAT GOES OFF OF BAKER, AND IT KIND OF WRAPS AROUND. AND ONE OF THE THINGS NOT PART OF THE QUEUING THAT WOULD BE. NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE QUEUING. 
          NO, THE QUEUING IS GOING TO HAPPEN MORE TOWARD THE BACKSIDE OF THE SITE SO THEY CAN GO IN AND OUT, OUT OF THAT ENTRANCE ALONG BAKER ROAD AND THAT LITTLE ODD SHAPED TURN RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE GOING TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE WE ASK THEM TO PUSH IT BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SO WE GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO MAKE THAT TURN AROUND THAT CORNER AND TO GIVE THEM SOME SIGHT DISTANCE. SO THEY DID SHIFT THAT THAT TURNING RADIUS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOWARD PUBLIX. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE FIRST COFFEE RUSH UP AND RUNNING BEFORE COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS WITH ANOTHER. AND I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ANYONE FROM COFFEE RUSH. I GUESS YOU GUYS DIDN'T REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I DIDN'T. YEAH, I THAT'S OUR APOLOGIES FOR THAT. WE, WE JUST ASSUME THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH THE THE FIRST TIME, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? DIFFERENT SITE, DIFFERENT ISSUES. YEAH, YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE IN THIS SITE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE PLAN A LOT MORE. Q YES, TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THE BAKER ROAD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A BUSY ROAD. YEAH. SO WE WE DEALT WITH A LOT MORE. Q WE ALSO ON THE WHAT I CALL THAT NORTH LANE, THEY'RE BOTH ONE WAY LANES TO DRIVE THROUGH. THE INTENT IS BY DOING THOSE OPPOSING DRIVE THROUGH LANES. 
          IS THAT THE DRIVER WHO'S PICKING UP THE COFFEE IS ALWAYS BEING SERVED BY THE SERVER AT THE WINDOW, AS OPPOSED TO CHECKERS, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT. THEY KIND OF COME AT THE SAME TIME. SO AS YOU'RE THE DRIVER, YOU'RE PICKING UP THE COFFEE AT THE SERVICE WINDOW. 
          SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE OPPOSING DRIVE THROUGH LANES. AND THEY'RE EACH ONE SINGLE, SINGLE THROUGH LANE. WHAT WE DID ON THAT NORTH ONE TO, TO MITIGATE THE BAKER IS WE ADDED A BYPASS LANE. AND SO THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS, IF SO HAPPENS, THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY KIND OF DO LANE BLOCKING AS WE'RE ON LIKES TO PUT IT. AND THEY CAN HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE TAKING ORDERS TO KIND OF KEEP IT MOVING. OR IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, ANOTHER CAR CAN MOVE IN AND MOVE OUT SO THAT BAKER IS NOT CLOGGED UP. AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. THERE'S ALREADY QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC GOING ON. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE TRY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. AND SO THIS THESE DRIVE THROUGH LANES ACTUALLY HAVE MORE Q AND MORE CAPACITY THAN WHAT YOU APPROVED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STEWART. THAT'S OKAY. ANY OF THE OTHER IS THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER. JODY. NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANY. I HAD A COUPLE. JODY, WHEN YOU WERE DOING THE PRESENTATION, IT JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 400 AND SOMETHING SQUARE FOOT. BUT IN THE ITEM REPORT IT SAYS 635. SO I'M ASSUMING JUST THERE'S JUST A SIMPLE MISTAKE WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR PRESENTATION. THE 490 IS THE ACTUAL BUILDING. THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT IS 690. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE GROSS FOOTPRINT IS 635FT■!S. AND THEN IT GETS INTO DIFFERENT FLORIDA BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS. AND WHAT'S UNDER AIR CONDITION, RIGHT, IS MAYBE WHERE YOU GET THE DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGES. BUT THE GROSS FOOTPRINT IS 635FT■!S. DO WE KNOW IF AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR JODY AND JODY MIGHT NOT KNOW. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, ARE THEY? THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PUBLIX AND I'M THEIR AUTHORIZED AGENT THROUGH DOCUMENTATION THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH THE CITY. WERE THEY COMPENSATED FOR THAT DOT RIGHT OF WAY? THEY WERE, YES. DO WE KNOW THE AMOUNT? I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT WAS DONE IN 2009. I DO BELIEVE 7 OR 9. IT WAS AROUND THAT 2007, 2000. IT WAS AROUND THE GREAT FINANCIAL RECESSION TIME FRAME. YES. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD HAVE THAT FOR WHEN IT DOES COME FOR SECOND READING. AND HOW MUCH DID DOTTIE ACTUALLY TAKE? THEY TOOK. SO I CAN PULL UP THOSE PLANS AND HAVE THAT. I CAN ACTUALLY ADD THAT TO THE STAFF REPORT AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION IF THAT'S IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, I KNOW YOU 
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MENTIONED A 3400 SQUARE FOOT BANK. YES. AND THAT YOU'RE REDUCING IT TO 635 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE FOOTPRINT. CORRECT. DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIT A 3400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING HERE? IT WAS ON THE PLAN. IT WAS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT GOT APPROVED BACK IN 2007. IT WAS VERY TIGHT IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, BUT IT IT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD FIT THOUGH? JUST IT WAS SHOEHORNED. CORRECT. 
          WELL, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS YOU'RE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION FROM 25%, I BELIEVE, TO 18% OR SO FOR THE PUD. THE PURPOSE OF A PUD IS TO HAVE OPEN SPACE MINIMUM 25%. SO IF YOU HAD A 3400 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE EVEN LESS. I. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE FIT. BUT THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A PUD AND, AND IT IS DIFFERENT. THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAN THE FIRST ONE. JUST TO ADD SOME CONTEXT FOR OUR SITE, WHICH IS PART OF THE OVERALL PUD. SO WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE TAIL WAGGING THE DOG. CORRECT. OKAY. AND WE'RE THE LAST ONE TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING SMALLER, MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED. AND SO THIS BLACK OUTLINE THAT YOU SEE HERE, KIND OF DASHED BLACK OUTLINE IS ROUGHLY 0.556 ACRES, JUST OVER ABOUT A HALF ACRE WITHIN THAT BUBBLE THAT, THAT WHAT I'LL CALL OUT PARCEL THE FINAL PHASE. WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THAT BUBBLE, IT'S OVER 46%. GOTCHA. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE AS MUCH THAT WE COULD WITHIN OUR BUBBLE. AND BUT WE'RE THE LAST ONE COMING IN. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS COMPENSATED FROM DOT FOR THAT THOUGH. AND, AND YOU'RE JUST THE APPLICANT, I GET IT. I WILL SAY, YEAH, IF THIS USE DOESN'T WORK, WHICH IS THE MOST SMALLEST USE YOU COULD DO AND BE VERY COMPLIMENTARY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE COULD WORK. IT'S TOUGH. IT'S TOUGH. YEAH, IT'S A TIGHT SITE. I MEAN, WE ALSO ALSO TOOK TAKEN AWAY THE OPEN SPACE. WE PUT THAT BYPASS LANE IN. YEAH. FOR THAT MITIGATION BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED. YEAH. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BAKER ROAD TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE WANTED THE FLOW. WELL BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE HERE A LONG TIME. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THIS IS A A LEASE TO PUBLIX. THIS IS A GROUND LEASE. SO YEAH, THE PUBLIC STILL OWNS THIS. CORRECT. AND THEY'RE THE OVERALL OWNER. SO WE'RE KIND OF COMING IN JUST TRYING TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP TO FIT THE FINAL PIECE. YEAH. AND ONE LAST THING THAT I WILL WILL SAY FOR THE RECORD IS I'VE, I'VE SEEN THIS IN PAST QUASI JUDICIAL OR JUST DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL WHERE THE APPLICANT SAYS, WE HAD IT APPROVED FOR THIS, BUT IN REALITY, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE FIT THE 3400 SQUARE FOOT. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE, HEY, YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS. SO IT, IT LOOKS IT IS A REDUCTION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE 3400 WOULDN'T HAVE FIT WELL, IN MY OPINION. REGARDLESS, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT SHOWS IT. RIGHT. YEAH. SO IT, IT DOES FIT IT. IT IS TIGHT. WOULD IT BE TIGHT ON PARKING? WOULD THERE BE SOME PARKING? YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE USING IT IN THE PARKING FIELD, BUT IT DID FIT WELL. AND THAT THAT 3400 SQUARE FOOT BECAUSE YOU'RE AT ARE YOU ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN PARKING CURRENTLY OR WITH THAT 3400. IT WAS ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN PARKING. NO, THERE WAS ALWAYS A REDUCTION IN PARKING REDUCTION. THERE WAS ALWAYS A REDUCTION IN PARKING. SO IT'D BE THEY WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THEN. JODY. SO IS IT, HOW DOES THAT WORK THEN? BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ASKING FOR PARKING REDUCTION WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM 3400 SQUARE FOOT RIGHT TO 635, WOULD IT STILL BE APPLICABLE? WHAT WE DID OVER HERE IS FOR THIS USE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S OPERATING VERY WELL PARKING WISE AT THE PROPERTY FOR THIS USE, WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT OUTDOOR AREA BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS WHEN WE WERE HEARING THE LAST TIME ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE OF STUART ON HAVING THAT OUTDOOR AREA. SO WE FIT THE OUTDOOR AREA AND SOME OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPING TO THE RIGHT OF IT. SO WE COULD HAVE HAD 4 OR 5 MORE PARKING SPACES THERE. 
          BUT WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD WHAT THE COMMISSION SAID ABOUT HAVING A NICE OUTDOOR AREA. 
          PEOPLE COULD SIT DOWN, HAVE A COFFEE, AND WE WERE ALSO BEING SENSITIVE TO OPEN SPACE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE A BUNCH OF LITTLE THINGS. I RIGHT TO GET THE RUBIK'S CUBE TO GET SOLVED. RIGHT. COMMISSIONER JOB, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON. YES, I DID QUESTION IN THAT THAT OPEN SPACE WHICH HAS NOW BEEN REDUCED TO 18% VERSUS 25, THE SEATING PORTION, HOW MUCH SEATING WAS THERE? HOW THE OUTDOOR SEATING? OH, OUTDOOR. I THINK WE GOT A COUPLE TABLES, BUT IT'S IT WAS MORE FOR A PLACE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A COFFEE, I THINK 
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THAT WAS MORE LIKE ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD SAY, GIVE UP TWO TABLES. MAYBE YOU HAVE 20% OPEN SPACE. OH NO, 7% OF THE TOTAL. SO IT'S THE TOTAL SITE PLAN, BY THE WAY. SO HOW BIG'S THE TOTAL LOT? THE TOTAL LOT IS IS OVER SEVEN. YEAH. OVER SEVEN ACRES. SO A LOT. AND WE'RE AND WE'RE LESS THAN 10%. WE'RE LESS THAN 10%. SO WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, HOW MUCH CAN YOU SQUEEZE OUT OF REALIZE FROM THE SPECS AS TO WHAT THE SIZE OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING WAS? YEAH. 
          SO, AND PART OF THE CHALLENGE WAS, IS THAT AFTER THIS ALL GOT BUILT WITH THAT PERVIOUS, WHICH KIND OF OPEN SPACE, THE DRIVE AISLES, WHAT HAPPENED OVER TIME IS CUSTOMERS WERE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME PUSHING OUR CARTS. AND SO PUBLIX RESPONDED TO THE COMMITTEE AND SAID, WELL, WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE COMFORTABLE SHOPPING AT THE PUBLIX. AND SO THOSE DRIVE AISLES GOT PAVED OVER THAT WERE PERVIOUS AND THAT COUNTED TO OPEN SPACE. RIGHT. AND THAT WAS ABOUT 200 ZERO SQUARE FEET. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO GET THAT BACK OTHER THAN TRY TO PUT PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IN THE DRIVE AISLES. AND THE CUSTOMERS DON'T LIKE THAT. AND WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO BUT WE DO HAVE THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER DISTRICT APPROVED EVERYTHING, SO THEY'RE FINE IF THE CITY'S FINE THROUGH THIS PUD PROCESS, WE'D LOVE TO MOVE FORWARD. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION, JODY. AND THIS MIGHT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE THE SECOND READING. DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUDS IN THE CITY THAT DON'T MEET THE 25% REQUIREMENT FOR OPEN SPACE? I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK THERE. I, I, YEAH, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE BUILT WITHOUT THE 25%. THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY. 
          THE REASON WHY THIS I CAN JUST TELL YOU, LIKE MR. GOOD SAID, AFTER THE SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT AND WHEN THEY CAME IN AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE AND IT EVEN HAD AN ORDINANCE IN 2007 THAT IF THE PERVIOUS PAYMENT FAILED, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. 
          WELL, I GUESS THEY PAVED IT WITHOUT COMING BACK AND MAKING THAT MODIFICATION, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THEY STILL WOULD NOT HAVE MET THEIR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. SO WE'RE JUST FIXING SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE WITH THE INTENTIONS OF JUST FIXING THEIR PROBLEM WITH THE DOING THE ASPHALT OVER THE PERMEABLE PAVEMENT PAVEMENT. NOW, THE PARKING SPACES THEMSELVES STILL HAVE THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT. AND IN OUR, IN THE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU GET HALF CREDIT TO OPEN SPACE FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE HAVING THAT REDUCTION RIGHT NOW. GOTCHA. AND THIS WAS WHEN I, IF I RECALL, WHERE THEY HAD CRACKING ISSUES, THEY HAD CRACKING ISSUES. YES. AND THEY WERE THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE EVEN WITH THE LARGER TRUCKS, NOT EVEN DELIVERY TRUCKS, BUT JUST LARGER DIESEL TRUCKS OR THE DOOLEY'S COMING DOWN THERE THAT WERE ACTUALLY HAVING ISSUES WITH THE PAVEMENT. SO THEY FIXED IT BY PAVING OVER IT WITH REGULAR PAVEMENT, WHICH TOOK AWAY THE CREDITS. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPLIED BACK IN 2007. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL OPEN SPACE WAS WHEN THIS PUD WAS ORIGINALLY? IT WAS AT 20. IT WAS A LITTLE OVER 25%, OVER 25%. AND THEN IT CRACKED. AND THEN THEY RIGHT. IT DID NOT. IT FIXED IT, BUT NEVER CAME IN FOR A PUD AMENDMENT. CORRECT. WE ARE. SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF APPROVAL THOUGH FOR PUBLIX TO PAVED IT. WE JUST. NO, NO. SO THERE WAS NO PERMIT OR WAS THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT BY THE WAY, OR THAT JUST. NO. I COULD ADD THAT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO. BUT THERE IS NO THERE IS NO. YES, I CAN ADD THAT TO THE STAFF REPORT SO YOU CAN HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME. BUT IN THE ORIGINAL PD IT DOES STATE IF IT FAILED, THEY WERE TO COME BACK AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME THEY THEY THEY DID NOT COME BACK TO THIS BOARD TO GET THAT APPROVAL. SO. AND THEY SHOULD HAVE. AND NOW WE'RE JUST WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING THE LAST PHASE AND FIXING WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER TIME, CORRECTING IT, I SHOULD SAY. YEAH. DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, NOW'S THE TIME. YEAH. SO SO MY NAME IS RON YOST AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF COFFEE RUSH, ALONG WITH MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN AND GRATEFUL FOR THE ATTENTION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. 
          WE'RE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING OUR BUSINESS DOWN HERE FROM PORTLAND, OREGON. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THESE DRIVE THRU STORES UP IN OREGON, AND ONE OF OUR MANAGERS MOVED DOWN HERE, AND OUR DAUGHTER MOVED DOWN HERE, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE'D OPEN OUR BUSINESS, EXPAND OUR BUSINESS. IT'S CLEAR ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GO. RIGHT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WE CAME DOWN HERE TO STUART, I THINK IT WAS LATE 2023 AND STARTED LOOKING AROUND AND AND WE SIGNED THE GROUND LEASE ON THE PROPERTY DOWN AT THE ALDI SHOPPING CENTER BY THE THE WALMART IN APRIL OF 2024. SO HERE WE ARE 
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OVER TWO YEARS LATER. AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'VE REALLY FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE DOING TWO STORES DOWN HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO US, THOUGH, WAS WE SIGNED THAT LEASE ON THE THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF TOWN IN APRIL OF 2024. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024? WE DIDN'T GET A PERMIT IN, IN TIME. AND SO WE WE HIT THAT. WE MISSED THE WINDOW. AND WE WERE IN THAT. 
          YEAH, WE WERE IN THE MORATORIUM WORKS. YEAH, YEAH. SO SO THAT STORE DOWN THERE HAD, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THAT MORATORIUM, WE WOULD HAVE A SEAL ON THAT STORE. NOW THAT THAT'S IN FACT, WE STARTED PAYING RENT ON THAT STORE MONTHS AGO. SO IT DELAYS REALLY RESULTED. BUT WE'LL I WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU HAVE BEEN BY THERE LATELY, YOU'LL WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO GETTING THE CEO, I THINK PROBABLY ABOUT MAYBE 30, 60 DAYS AWAY FROM HERE. THE CEO HOOKS CONSTRUCTION IS DOING THE WORK AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. WE LOVE HOOKS AND I THINK THEY BUILT YOUR FIRE STATION AND. YEP. AND SO, BUT I, I AGAIN, AND I, I, I'M. BECAUSE WE'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN, I HONESTLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD THE OPTION TO COME TO TALK TO YOU COMMISSIONERS BEFOREHAND. 
          AND HAD I, HAD I KNOWN THAT HAD I KNOWN THAT I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE ALL HERE WHEN I WE DID THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. YEAH. SO AND, AND I'M, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE A SECOND OPPORTUNITY. BUT HAD I KNOWN I WOULD HAVE COME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, BUT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK THIS PROJECT IS, IS GOING TO ADD EVEN MORE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A, LIKE ROB SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD DO ON THIS PARCEL AND WE'RE GOING TO DRESS IT UP. I THINK, I THINK OUR, OUR PERVIOUS SPACE ON THIS PARCEL IS ABOUT 40% I THINK, ISN'T IT? 46%. SO WE'RE SO WE'RE ABOVE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CODE THRESHOLD ON, ON LANDSCAPE AND SO FORTH. BUT ANYWAYS, I'M, I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YEAH. I'LL JUST ADD ONE MORE THING. MY OFFICE, MY COMPANY, WE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS SITE BACK IN 2005 SIX AND THEN SEVEN A LONG TIME AGO. AND SO RON CALLED ME IN DECEMBER OF 2024. AND, AND THEN WE RAN INTO THE MORATORIUM AS WELL. SO WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG. AND I, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE TWO YEARS PRETTY SOON. SO WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED. BUT, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING AN APPROVAL FROM THIS, THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET SITE PERMITS. SO WE'RE THINKING THE EARLIEST WE COULD START AND WE'D LIKE TO START AS SOON AS WE CAN, WOULD PROBABLY BE NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR ON THIS SITE. SO IT WOULD LIKELY WOULD BE AFTER THE CO THAT'S COMING ON THE SOUTH BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S REALLY TAKING GOOD SHAPE. IF YOU'VE DRIVE OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE IT. IT'S IT'S THEY'RE MOVING QUICK. 
          FANTASTIC CONTRACTOR THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LEE. THIS IS A TWO READING, CORRECT? YES. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO TRANSMIT AT THE SECOND READING. 
          WE'RE NOT THERE YET. DOES THE PETITIONER WISH TO OFFER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE CONCLUDING ITS PRESENTATION? WE'RE CONCLUDED. THANK YOU. WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO THE SECOND STORE HERE IN STUART. I JUST WANTED TO ASK AND BE RESPECTFUL. THANK YOU. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT? OH, SORRY. ANNOUNCES THAT THE PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE HAS ENDED AND THE HEARING IS CLOSED. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING THIS? IT SAYS THE PARTY SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH EQUAL TIME TO PRESENT THE BOARD, WITH CLOSING REMARKS SUGGESTED AS FIVE MINUTES. NEW EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED DURING CLOSING REMARKS. THE PURPOSE OF THE REMARKS IS TO AFFORD THE PARTIES WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, AND ISSUES RAISED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE CLARIFIED BY REFERENCING EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING. THE PETITIONER SHALL PRESENT LAST. THING I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. LAST I HAVE, I SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY AGAIN, WE WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THIS SECOND STORE AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO WORK THROUGH ANY OF THESE LAST HURDLES THAT WE NEED TO DO AS WE PROCEED TO THE SECOND READING, ASSUMING THAT YOU ALL TRANSMIT IT TO THAT. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO TRANSMIT THIS TO SECOND READING. 
          MOTION TO TRANSMIT. OR. OH, SORRY, I MOVE MY PAPERS AROUND HERE. IT'S RIGHT HERE, 2020 FIVE, 55, 20, 26 TO THE SECOND READING. IS THERE A TIME, CERTAIN SET FOR THAT READING? MR. CITY ATTORNEY. IT'LL JUST BE GO TO THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. IT'S THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. 
          AUGUST 10TH. THAT'S MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK REGARDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555. RIGHT. 2026 AND SECONDED BY 
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COMMISSIONER JOB LEE. THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MENTION ON THE QUASI CARD. BUT YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT YOU ALREADY HAD. 
          CORRECT. SO IT'S ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. YOU COVERED IT. IS THERE ANY DELIBERATION REGARDING THE MOTION? I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, JODY. AS FAR AS THE DOT COMPENSATION THAT WILL BE INCLUDED FOR SECOND READING, OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE IN THE FORM OF THE MOTION? LEE. I, I THOUGHT YOU GUYS HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT DURING THE DISCUSSION, AND SHE SAID SHE WOULD PROBABLY INCLUDE THAT IN THE. I WILL ADD THAT TO THE STAFF REPORT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO PUT IN THE MOTION YOU REQUESTED IT. SHE. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL. MARY. COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          CLERK. YES. MAYOR. REED. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO SECOND READING, WHICH WILL BE, I BELIEVE, AUGUST 10TH. YES. YES. AUGUST 10TH. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          [5. SAILFISH BALLFIELDS REFERENDUM ]
THANKS. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION FOR THE SAILFISH BALL FIELDS REFERENDUM. 
          MAYOR, YOU HAD ASKED THE COMMISSION HAD ASKED STAFF AFTER SUSPENDING DISCUSSION ON REFERENDUMS HAVING TO DO WITH SAILFISH AND HANEY CREEK STAFF RESPONDED BY SAYING, I BELIEVE I'VE SIGNED UP FOR A HISTORY OF THESE PROPERTIES. THE USE OF THESE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY, AND THEN WHAT I'M CALLING CONGRUENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN. SO I ASKED THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, JIM CROSSKEY, AND TEAM, THEY'RE HERE. JIM'S HERE WITH MIKE REDSTONE. 
          JESSICA THARP, JEFF HUGHES IS HERE. DOMINIC ALSO HAD A HAND IN THIS. DOMINIC BUTLER. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JIM FOR PRESENTATION. AND AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SAILFISH TODAY AND HANEY CREEK AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. GIARDINO, IT'S JIM CURLEY, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. AND I DO APPRECIATE. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEAH. OKAY. AND I DO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER JOBS RECOMMENDATION OF MAKING SURE THAT THESE TWO ITEMS CAN BREATHE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER HERE. AND IT'S MY GOAL TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THESE TWO BALL FIELDS AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY HAVE. AND THAT'S WHY, SINCE BASEBALL IS A TEAM SPORT, WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE AS WELL WITH YOUR RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE HAVE THESE IN SECTIONS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY. 
          BUT I'M GOING TO KICK THINGS OFF HERE BY GOING AHEAD AND LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR OVERVIEW OF BOTH BALL FIELDS. WE'RE GOING TO THEN GO TO OUR HISTORY OF THE BALL FIELDS. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR RESERVATIONS, SCHEDULING AND UTILIZATION OF THE BALL FIELDS. WE ALSO HAD A 1972 HOUSE AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING WAY BACK INTO HISTORY TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THESE BALL FIELDS GOT THEIR ORIGINAL FUNDING SOURCE FROM OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, HOW THIS BALL FIELDS, HOW THE BALL FIELDS RELATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALSO, GUY DAVIS TOURNAMENT ATHLETIC FACILITY CONCEPT THAT WE EXPLORED. THE RFP OF 2018 AND ALSO FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE STAFF HAVE BEEN PLANNING ALL ALONG. YOU LIKE THAT GRAPHIC A'S WONDERFUL ISN'T IT? GREAT JOB. THANKS. OH, AND THEN FINALLY, WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE AND REFERENDUM PROCESS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL LET MR. BAGGETT RUN THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING. I'M GOING TO START THINGS OFF WITH OUR BALL FIELDS. OVERVIEW. WE HAVE TWO BALL FIELDS. AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE. GUY DAVIS, BALLFIELD BALL PARK. WE HAVE ONE BASEBALL THAT ALSO WORKS AS A SOFTBALL FIELD, BATTING CAGES, CONCESSION STAND, RESTROOMS, AND A PLAYGROUND. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE SAILFISH BALLPARK, WHICH HAS THREE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, ONE TEE BALL FIELD THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TEE BALL FIELD A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION AT THE VERY END, A CONCESSION STAND, BATTING CAGES AND RESTROOMS, AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND. SO THIS 
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ONE, WHEN I CAME TO WORK HERE, I WAS LIKE, WHO WAS GUY DAVIS? I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S CALLED GUY DAVIS. WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS. SO I'M GOING TO CALL JESSICA THARP HERE, WHO IS OUR RECREATION ASSISTANT DIVISION MANAGER, WHO'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF GUY DAVIS PARK AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAILFISH HISTORY. SO, JESSICA, BEFORE YOU START, MR. MAYOR, JIM, I WISH YOU HAD PUT A LOCATION MAP THAT SHOWED, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WE HAVE YOU WILL DO THAT. SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PARKS. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVENCE. THE DISTANCE. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. AS IT RELATES TO THE HISTORY OF GUY DAVIS PARK, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DATES INVOLVED IN THAT. ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS LINCOLN PARK, NOW KNOWN AS THE EAST STEWART COMMUNITY, WAS FOUNDED IN 1913 AND IN THE MID 20S, LITTLE DIXIE SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED. THEREFORE, LITTLE DIXIE BALLPARK CAME ABOUT AND ATTRACTED PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. MR. CLIFTON GREEN, A LOCAL RESIDENT, ORGANIZED THE STEWART DODGERS IN 1926 WHO PLAYED AT LITTLE DIXIE PARK, AND THEN IN 1934, GERALD GUY JEROME DAVIS TOOK OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE STEWART DODGERS. MR. DAVIS AT THAT TIME INVESTED HIS OWN MONEY IN THE MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK. THE CITY NAMED THE PARK AFTER MISS. THE CITY OF STEWART NAMED THE PARK AFTER MR. DAVIS ON MAY 27TH, 1975, AND HIS HONOR AS A TRIBUTE TO HIS ATHLETIC, PIONEERING AND THE OPPORTUNITIES HE CREATED FOR THE YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY TO ACQUIRE SKILLS IN BASEBALL, FOOTBALL AND BOXING. THAT'S THE HISTORY OF GUY DAVIS. SOME OTHER. THESE ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT DATES. AGAIN, 1975, WHERE WE. THE CITY NAMED THE PARK AFTER MR. GUY DAVIS. WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS STATED ON THERE AND SOME THINGS THAT JIM'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER. 
          YEAH, I GUESS I WANTED TO BRING OUT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS, ARE SOME OF THESE DATES. ALL OF THESE DATES ARE IN YOUR PACKAGE, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD THEM ALL AS A PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LABORIOUSLY GO AHEAD AND READ EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS, BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF SOME CERTAIN HIGHLIGHTS THAT MAY PERTAIN TO YOUR DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ITEM TONIGHT. AND ONE OF THOSE IS THAT THE 2024 THE CITY OF STEWART WAS, WAS LOOKING FOR A $500,000 STATE APPROPRIATION TO HELP FUND THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF THE PARK EXPANSION PROJECT, AND ALSO THAT VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONATED TO THE DIFFERENT PARKS, SUCH AS EMMYS TEAM. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER RICH WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT IN 2023, TOWARDS UPGRADES TO THE BACKSTOPS, DUGOUTS AND BATTING CAGES. SO I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES. WELL, I THINK WHEN AS IT RELATES TO SAILFISH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW IT'S A HISTORIC SEVEN ACRE BASEBALL COMPLEX. WE KNOW IT'S BEEN A PART OF OUR IDENTITY FOR GENERATIONS. AND ALSO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY REALIZES THAT THIS REALLY KIND OF STARTED BACK IN THE 40S. SO IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. IN 1943, OUR SAILFISH BALLPARK HOSTED YOUTH BASEBALL AND WEEKEND ATHLETIC ATHLETIC EVENTS. IN THE 50S, MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL USED SAILFISH BALLPARK, AND IN 58, MARTIN COUNTY NORTH, WHICH WHO USES THE PARK RIGHT NOW KNOWN AS MARTIN COUNTY NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE, BEGAN USING SAILFISH BALLPARK. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT LITTLE LEAGUE, IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK INTO THE 50S. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN THE 70S, MARTIN COUNTY NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE WAS THE LARGEST BASEBALL YOUTH WORK. 
          YOUTH SPORTS TEAMS HAVE MADE SAILFISH BALLPARK THEIR HOME FIELD. SO THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF THE FACTS WITH THESE HISTORICAL LANDMARKS AS WE GO THROUGH TIME. IN 92, A MAJOR RENOVATION OF. UPGRADED TO THE COMPLEX TO A QUADRUPLEX LAYOUT WITH BERMUDA GRASS FIELDS, EXPANSION CONCESSION FIELDS AS WELL AS A T BALL, YOUTH BASEBALL, AND COMPETITIVE PLAY. 
          AND THEN IN 2010, WE HAD MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS BEGAN USING SAILFISH BALL FIELDS. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK, I MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKEN. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A OVERVIEW OF THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE TWO PARKS ON A BIG MAP. I DO HAVE INDIVIDUAL MAPS. I CAN GET THAT CERTAINLY TO YOU IF WE FURTHER DISCUSS THIS, BUT I. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF. JESSICA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. THAT WAS EXTRAORDINARILY WELL. THANKS. 
          OUR HISTORICAL OVERVIEW OF SAILFISH GOING INTO THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT GRANT. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE REALIZED THAT BEFORE THERE WAS 
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A FURRED APP THAT WE ALL GOT FUNDING THROUGH HUD? YEAH, YEAH, THERE YOU GO. I MEAN, THAT WAS A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE. AND I WANT TO THANK MR. BAGGETT AND RYAN FOR BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK UP SOME OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME BEING ABLE TO DIG THROUGH ALL OF THE ARCHIVES, TRYING TO FIND WHEN SAILFISH BALLPARK ACTUALLY GOT ITS FUNDING, AND IT WAS BACK IN 1972 FOR THE FOR THE GRANDSON OF $72,000, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY BACK THEN, IN THE 70S, IT WAS PRE DONE BEFORE OUR FLORIDA RECREATION DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION PROGRAM OR FOR DAP GRANT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1986. SO I COPIED FOR YOU SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SOME OF THOSE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT WERE THERE. WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THAT IF THIS WAS BUILT BY HUD OR FOR DAP, POTENTIALLY YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE BALL FIELDS AT ALL BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHENEVER YOU'RE USING FLORIDA FOR DAP GRANTS, YOU REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE BALL FIELDS UNLESS YOU ARE ABLE TO MITIGATE THEM BY PAYING THE ENTIRE GRANT BACK AND ALSO REPLACE AN A LIKE FACILITY SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE ON WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT. AND SO LEE WAS REALLY ON TO SOMETHING, AND I GIVE HIM A LOT OF CREDIT BECAUSE LIKE, HEY, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOLVED THIS. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BALL FIELDS AT ALL. BUT JUST WHEN HE WAS, HE'S ALMOST TOO GOOD BECAUSE THEY DID SOME DIGGING. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? IT WAS RELEASED, MEANING THAT HUD RELEASED THE LAND TO US, SAYING THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE WITH YOUR BALL FIELDS. WE GAVE YOU THE MONEY. I THINK IT WAS JUST SORT OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          SOME RECENT HISTORY THAT WE HAD HERE IN 2018 AND 2020 IS THAT WE HAD AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL TO REDEVELOP SOME OF THE BALL FIELDS VALUED OVER 3 MILLION, WITH A POTENTIAL TAX REVENUE UP TO 700 000 ANNUALLY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR THING AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE TIMELINE. WE HAD AN AMAZING PUBLIC RESPONSE BY DOING THIS, AND THERE WAS PRETTY MUCH A REASON WHY THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED, THAT I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME DETAIL ON THE HISTORY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OUR PUBLIC RESPONSE WAS THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS, AND THERE'S BEEN THREE TIMES THAT THIS COMMISSION CHAMBERS HAVE BEEN FLOODED WITH LITTLE KIDS SAYING, DON'T DO ANYTHING TO OUR BALL FIELDS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE COMMISSION, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD ELECTED NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE BALL FIELDS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AS WELL. BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, I'M GOING TO TAKE A PAUSE AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MR. HUGHES, JEFF HUGHES, WHO'S OUR ATHLETICS SUPERVISOR, AND HE'S GOING TO COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW OUR SCHEDULING PROCESS WORKS WITH ALL OF OUR BALL FIELDS. AND LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE THING ABOUT JEFF. THIS MAN IS LIKE A CLOCK. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY MORE ORGANIZED WITH HIS DETAILS AND DATA THAN THIS MAN RIGHT HERE. SO I'M GOING TO LET HIM GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU HOW THE SCHEDULING PROCESS WORKS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COMMISSION, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. SO THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING THE BALL FIELDS IS JUST THAT, A SERIES OF STEPS. AN INTERESTED USER WILL CONTACT OUR OFFICE EITHER THROUGH EMAIL, PHONE CALL, MAYBE WALK IN THE BUILDING AND LET US KNOW THAT THEY WANT THEY HAVE AN INTEREST. 
          WE WILL GO THROUGH THE STEPS OF CHECKING OUR CALENDAR, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE DATE IS AVAILABLE AND THE TIME IS AVAILABLE ON THE PARTICULAR LOCATION. THE FACILITY THEY WANT EITHER BE A FIELD OR COURT SYSTEM JUST AT ALL. AS FAR AS OUR RESERVATIONS GO, ONCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT THAT'S THAT SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE, THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE A USER WITH US. WE HAVE A RESERVATION SYSTEM THAT WE USE, AND THEN SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SET UP WITH THE USER ACCOUNT. ONCE THEY HAVE THE USER ACCOUNT AND GO AHEAD AND CREATE THE PERMIT. PERMIT INCLUDES, LIKE I SAID, THEIR NAME, THE DATE, THE TIME, ALL THE SPECIFICS OF THEIR USE, AND THEY GO ON OUR CALENDAR. ONCE THEY'RE ON THE CALENDAR, THEN WE WILL SET UP A CALENDAR INVITE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. SO THEY'RE AWARE OF A USER COMING IN ON THAT DAY AND TIME. SO IN CASE THERE'S ANY NEED TO PREPARE THE FACILITIES, LINING ANY KIND OF WORK TO THE FACILITY, ANYTHING AT ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, 
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THEY'RE IN THE LOOP. EVERYBODY'S READY TO MAKE THE FACILITY IN THE BEST, BEST CASE IT CAN BE FOR THE USERS. WE WANT TO IMPRESS THE USERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A CAPABLE AND AND WELL KEPT FACILITY. IF THEY ARE A ONE TIME USER OR A SHORT TERM USER, WE WILL GENERALLY INVOICE THEM IN ADVANCE, GET THEIR PAYMENT, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL SQUARED AWAY BEFORE WE LET THEM USE IF THEY ARE A LONG TIME USER, SOME OF OUR LEAGUES AND SOME OF OUR ASSISTANT USERS WILL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH US, NOT AN AGREEMENT WITH US. I APOLOGIZE THAT MISSPOKE. THERE THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT. THEY WILL PRESENT US WITH A DEPOSIT, WHICH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT THEN ALLOWS US TO BOOK THEIR RESERVATIONS IN ADVANCE, AND THEN WE WILL INVOICE THEM AT THE END OF EACH OF THOSE PERIODS. IT'S A LITTLE IN THE INSIDE BASEBALL, AS THEY SAY, BUT THAT'S HOW WE MANAGE THE FINANCIAL ON THAT. AND THEN ON THE DAY OF THE USE, WE CONFIRM THAT EVERYTHING WENT WELL. WE CONFIRMED THAT EVERYTHING WAS TO THEIR LIKING, TO THEIR NEEDS. IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS, WE HANDLE THOSE CALLS. 
          IF THERE'S AN ADJUSTMENT, SAY WHETHER WAS A CONCERN OR IF THERE WAS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT KEPT THEM FROM USING THE FIELD, THEN WE'LL WORK ON THEM GETTING ANOTHER DATE. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE PROCESS. ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED AND THEY'VE PAID THEIR INVOICE, THEN WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT USER. WE TYPICALLY, SINCE ABOUT 2020 ON AVERAGE, HAVE ABOUT 25 USER GROUPS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN ANY GIVEN MONTH. WE HAVE SOME LARGER USER GROUPS. JIM MENTIONED MARTIN COUNTY, NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE. HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS, WHICH IS A LEAGUE THAT DOES A FALL BALL PROGRAM, BASEBALL PROGRAM THAT IS NOT COMPETITIVE. IT'S MORE OF A TEACHING LEAGUE, ALLOWS PLAYERS THAT ARE NEW TO THE GAME TO GET GOOD INSTRUCTION IN A NONCOMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT, AND SOME OF THE OTHER USERS ARE TRAVEL TEAMS, WHICH ARE TEAMS OF COMPETITIVE PLAYERS THAT ARE PLAYING IN LEAGUES AGAINST OTHER TRAVEL TEAMS. WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADULT TEAMS THAT COME OUT AND USE OUR FIELD EITHER FOR PRACTICE FOR GAMES, SO THERE'S NEVER A LACK OF USERS REQUESTING TO USE THIS SPACE. 
          AND TO THAT END, THERE'S NEVER A LACK OF WORK TO BE DONE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THE SPACE USE IN USABLE CONDITION. THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS. JEFF, CAN YOU MENTION SOME OF THE TOP USER GROUPS THAT WE HAVE THERE ON THE SLIDE, PLEASE? SURE. TOP USER GROUPS, LIKE I SAID, ARE MARTIN COUNTY, NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE, MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS, THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, WHICH IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION. MIRACLE LEAGUE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PUTS TOGETHER LOCAL LEAGUES AND THEY ARE SPECIAL NEEDS INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENTER INTO A TYPICAL LITTLE LEAGUE ORGANIZATION. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE THE SKILL SETS AND THE, THE ABILITIES TYPICALLY. SO THIS IS A LEAGUE THAT CATERS DIRECTLY TO THAT POPULATION. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME DEDICATED PEOPLE HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY THAT ARE THAT HAVE STARTED THIS LEAGUE. THE MAN THAT THAT CAME TO US AND AND REQUESTED TO USE THE FIELDS FOR THIS PURPOSE, HIS CHILD WAS ACTUALLY PLAYING IN A LEAGUE IN WEST PALM BEACH, AND HE THOUGHT THERE WAS ENOUGH INTEREST HERE. AND I'VE FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH INTEREST THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE MULTIPLE DAYS FOR THEIR GAMES, BUT THEY'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH GETTING ENOUGH SUPPORT VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE EVERY ATHLETE HAS TO HAVE A VOLUNTEER. IT HELPS THEM WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON THE FIELD. STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS USED OUR BALL FIELDS DURING THEIR PE PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THEY LOST SOME OF THEIR OUTDOOR FIELD SPACE, SO THEY WERE UTILIZING THE FIELD SPACE AT AT SAILFISH BALL PARK BALL FIELD, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FOR THEIR PE PROGRAM. SO THAT WAS A GREAT HELP TO THEM. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR OWN INTERNAL PROGRAMS, WE DO A PRESCHOOL SPORTS PROGRAM THAT UTILIZES THE FIELDS FOR OUR BASEBALL PROGRAM. SO LOTS OF TOP TIER USERS AS FAR AS THAT GOES. AND AGAIN, UP TO 25 DIFFERENT USERS ON A REGULAR BASIS, INCLUDING ALL THESE TRAVEL TEAMS AND MEN'S LEAGUES AND YOU NAME IT, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY CALLING ME WANTING TO KNOW IF WE HAVE SPACE. THANK YOU JEFF. SO IN SUMMARY, 24 OR POSSIBLY 25 USER GROUPS WITH 227 TOTAL FIELD USES AT GUY DAVIS, WHICH A TOTAL FACILITY REVENUE OF $6,970. IT'S SAILFISH 25 USER GROUPS 673 TOTAL FIELD USES WITH A REVENUE SOURCE OF $24,305. AND THAT WAS FOR LAST 
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YEAR. OUR BALL FIELD OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REALLY A VERY GOOD WORKING PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND MILTON DEALS WITH ALL OF THE ANNUAL TURF AND GROUNDS FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE WITH NOT ONLY THE BALL FIELDS, BUT ALL THE PARKS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FOR USERS IN AN EVENING, AND WE CAN ALSO, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BEING ABLE TO TURN THESE FIELDS OVER BECAUSE THEY GET SO MUCH USE. SO THOSE GUYS ARE ALWAYS OUT THERE IN LINING AND DRAGGING THESE FIELDS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE IN GOOD PLAY. AN INTERESTING FACT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MARTIN COUNTY NORTH LITTLE BECAUSE THERE ARE PREFERRED USER GROUP THAT GOES OUT THERE. THEY WORK WITH CITRUS BALL FIELD WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS SAILFISH. NOW ONLY FIELDS TWO AND FOUR ACCOMMODATE SAILFISH. BUT THE HERO FIELD OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS IS GUY DAVIS. IT IS JUST HIGH AND DRY. SO WHENEVER THEY GET RAINED OUT AT CITRUS AND SAILFISH LOOKS A LITTLE SOGGY, BOOM. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GUY DAVIS. SO THEY WERE SAYING THAT THAT FIELD IS JUST I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST IT JUST DRAINS REALLY WELL. AND I HAVE TO THANK PUBLIC WORKS FOR BEING ABLE TO DO SUCH A GOOD JOB ON THAT FIELD. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU MR. MIKE REDSTONE, WHO'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HE'S OUR RECREATION DIVISION MANAGER, AND INSTEAD OF US GOING THROUGH OUR COMP PLAN POLICY BY POLICY AND JUST READING THESE THINGS IN A VERY BORING WAY, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW WE'RE MEETING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN KIND OF SOME BROAD STROKES, KNOWING ALSO THAT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING UP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE'S SOME ANTIQUATED THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE THAT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND MODIFYING AS TIME GOES BY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. MR. REDSTONE, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE GREAT AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF STUART. SO IN THE IN THE EARLY DISCUSSIONS, IT WAS BROUGHT UP ON DICE ABOUT ABOUT THE COMP PLAN. AND SO WE LISTED SEVERAL THINGS ON THE RECREATIONAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT WE WANTED TO KIND OF ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES TONIGHT OF HOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND, AND WORKING THROUGH THE COMP PLAN TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK. AND THEN ALSO AS THE DISCUSSION EARLIER FOR THROUGH JIM OF LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE TOO, AND, AND UPDATING IT. ALSO, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT IS IT WAS DISCUSSED ON EARLIER TONIGHT THAT THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IFAS EXTENSION OFFICE, WE JUST HOSTED SEVERAL DAYS OF TRAINING THROUGH OUR BOTH PUBLIC WORKS TURF AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENTS, BOTH FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND BEING ABLE TO HOST THAT AT THE 10TH STREET CENTER. SO THEY JUST HAD THEIR GRADUATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND I KNOW SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS WERE THERE FOR THAT. WE APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S WE'VE DONE THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW OVER THERE. AND I KNOW THAT THE THE GROUNDS CREWS GET AN AWESOME. EXPERIENCE OF GOING THROUGH THOSE. AND I'M SURE THAT MILTON WOULD WOULD BACK US UP ON THAT. SO THAT'S ONE WAY. ANOTHER WAY IS THAT WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND AS JEFF SAID EARLIER, THAT WE DO HAVE THEM COME OVER AND USE BOTH SAILFISH AND THEN ALSO A GUY DAVIS WITH THE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS FOR THEIR SOCCER IN LACROSSE PROGRAMS ALSO. SO AND THEN WE ALSO IN RETURN USE THEIR GYMNASIUM OVER AT STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OVER THERE TOO. SO IT IS REALLY WORKED OUT WELL WITH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IS THAT WE AGAIN, ARE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THROUGH ALL OF THE SCHEDULING THAT GOES ON WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT LEAGUES AND THE BASEBALL LEAGUES, THE CITY OF STUART FIELDS SEEM TO STAY THE DRIEST DURING THE FLORIDA WEATHER. AND SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. AGAIN, WORKING WITH OUR TURF AND GROUNDS DEPARTMENT HERE FOR THE CITY. AND SO WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MARTIN COUNTY NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA WEATHER, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THAT WINTER AND SPRING, WE GET A LOT OF RAIN. SO WE'RE ABLE TO HELP OUT A LOT IN THAT, IN THAT AVENUE. AND THEN LASTLY, WE DO, WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY PARKS 
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AND RECREATION TO SUPPORT. WHEN WE WERE DOING AFTER SCHOOL, IT WAS VERY HEAVY, BUT WE ALSO STILL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, THAT AGREEMENT TO, TO BOTH HELP THEM AND THEN ALSO HELP WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMING THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE. AND AGAIN, WE, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO GOING FORWARD WITH THAT AND UPDATING THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE FUTURE TOO. SO THANK YOU, MR. REDSTONE. THAT LAST ITEM I THINK, ILLUSTRATES WHAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THAT, YES, WE HAD AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART FOR US TO BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH MARTIN COUNTY. BUT NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT, THAT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR RECREATION, I PROMISED YOU THAT WE WOULD GET TO THIS TOPIC. 
          THIS IS THE INFAMOUS RESOLUTION 23 2027. ONCE UPON A TIME, WE HAD THE ASPIRATIONS OF BUILDING A TOURNAMENT COMPLEX OVER A GUY DAVIS PARK. THIS WAS GOING TO BE AT THE TIME OF. STATE OF THE ART QUAD BALL FIELD. THERE WAS TWO DESIGNS HERE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE LEARNED THAT THE THE FOOTBALL FIELD WAS BUILT BY A FOR DAP GRANT. AND IF WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THE FOOTBALL FIELD, WE NEEDED. IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT A WHOLE QUAD HERE IN REPRESENTATION OF THE SLIDE ON YOUR RIGHT, WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY MOVE THAT BALL FIELD IN ORDER TO HAVE A TRUE QUAD. AT THE TIME, I WAS AUTHORIZED TO GO FOR A $4 MILLION LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA. IT WAS VERY AMBITIOUS AND WE DIDN'T GET IT. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T GET IT WAS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE AT THE TIME WANTED US TO USE ACTUAL GRASS AND NOT TURF. WE FELT THAT IF WE DID AN ARTIFICIAL GRASS TYPE SITUATION, WE COULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, KICKBALL, ANY TYPE. IT WAS MORE OF A FLEX TYPE SITUATION. IT WASN'T THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T GET IT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE APPROPRIATION. SO THAT DREAM OF BEING ABLE TO REDEVELOP GUY DAVIS PARK IN THIS FASHION NEVER CAME TO FRUITION. IN MY OPINION, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE NOW WITH OUR NEW GUY DAVIS PARK SITUATION, WE'LL HAVE A MORE DIVERSIFIED PORTFOLIO OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES WITH THE WAY IT'S BEING DESIGNED NOW, WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT IN 2018 IS THAT THE CITY OF GOT AN UNSOLICITED BID FROM A DEVELOPER THAT SAID, HEY, YOU MEAN EVERYONE THOUGHT WE DIDN'T NEED EIGHT BALL FIELDS AT THE TIME? BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST KIND OF AN OVERKILL WITH THE CITY OF OUR SIZE. SO THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME SAID, WELL, NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A REVENUE NEGATIVE SITUATION BY MAINTAINING THE PARK, PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK AT LOOKING AT A REVENUE POSITIVE SITUATION BY GOING AHEAD AND PUTTING AN RFP OUT TO DEVELOP SAILFISH. BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE PLAN WAS IS TO HAVE A STATE OF THE ART BALLPARK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN EAST STUART. SO THE RFP WENT OUT AND IT ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSED TWO PARCELS OF PROPERTY. THE FIRST ONE WAS SAILFISH BALL FIELDS, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS A CITY GARAGE AT THE TIME. THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME DIDN'T. 
          THEY WERE JUST EXPLORING IT. THEY WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD AN UNSOLICITED BID, I THINK IT WAS FROM NEW URBAN DEVELOPMENT WHO JUST FINISHED AZUL. THAT LETTER CAME IN OR THAT EMAIL, AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE WE JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH ONE PERSON. LET'S JUST SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE TO KIND OF EXPLORE THIS IDEA. THE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, RIGHT AFTER THAT RFP WENT OUT, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? CITY OF STUART DECIDES NOT TO SELL SAILFISH. SO WE HAD A LOT OF MEDIA. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THREE TIMES IN MY CAREER IN WHICH WE HAD THIS WHOLE AUDIENCE FILLED WITH BALL FIELDS, WITH KIDS, WITH THEIR BALL FIELDS OR THEIR THEIR BASEBALL OUTFITS ON UNIFORMS. AND IT BECAME A VERY BIG POLITICAL ISSUE AT THE TIME. I KNOW THAT THE CITY WAS VERY, VERY CONCERNED WITH ITS REVENUE STREAMS. AND COMMISSIONER GLASS LAYTON AT THAT TIME MADE SURE THAT RIGHT DOWN HERE, THAT SHE SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL STILL NEED TO FIND A NEW REVENUE SOURCE ELSEWHERE. SO THEY WERE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WERE SHORT ON REVENUE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT CAME. HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEVELOP SAILFISH BALL FIELDS. NOW, I WAS COMING TO YOU TO TRY AND EXPLAIN ALL THE HISTORY, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TRY AND COME TO YOU WITH A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ANYWAYS, AS JEFF 
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EXPLAINED, WE HAVE THE MIRACLE LEAGUE, THE MIRACLE LEAGUE BASEBALL PROVIDES CHILDREN AND ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE JOY OF BASEBALL AND A SAFE, INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY PLAYER HAS A CHANCE TO BAT, SCORE AND BE A PART OF THE TEAM. THE TEE BALL FIELD IS A VERY, VERY SMALL FIELD. MARTIN COUNTY, NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE AND ANY OF THAT AGE GROUP PRIMARILY USES FIELDS TWO AND FOUR. CITRUS BALL FIELD WAS BUILT SPECIFICALLY BY MARTIN COUNTY AT THEIR EXPENSE, AND THEY HAVE A QUAD. THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY BASEBALL AREA. SAILFISH IS AN ANCILLARY. AND GUY DAVIS IS SORT OF A RAIN OUT DATE. THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SAILFISH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A QUAD. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING A QUAD. SO THE THE TEE BALL FIELD IS NOW STARTING TO ACCOMMODATE THE MIRACLE LEAGUE BASEBALL, WHICH IS A NATIONWIDE PROGRAM. SO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO SEVERAL GRANTS WITH GRANT WORKS WITH FOR DAP AS WELL AS IMPACT 100, WHICH OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOCAL GROUP HERE AS WELL AS A YOUTH FOUNDATION. AND IT'S ALSO CAME TO ME THROUGH GRANT WORKS. THAT STATE FARM HAS A TENDENCY OF GETTING INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS. AND MY THOUGHTS ARE, IS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND CREATE A SPECIFIC PLACE WITHIN THE TEE BALL AREA WITHIN SAILFISH BY UTILIZING SOME GRANTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY TIE SAILFISH UP SO THAT WE'RE NOT FACED WITH THIS, BUT ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALMOST TO ME IS ACCOMMODATING A USER GROUP THAT IS VERY SPECIAL TO MY HEART. I'M GOING TO TURN THE REFERENDUM BALLOT LANGUAGE OVER TO MR. BAGGETT, AND WHAT HE'LL DO IS EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT HIS PROCESS WAS. AND ALSO ON MAY 11TH, WHERE HE HAD HIS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 52, 53-2026, MR. BAGGETT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ALL WANTED TO GO THROUGH WAS THE LANGUAGE. THE LANGUAGE WAS IN THE PRIOR ORDINANCE, AND JIM'S GOT THE LANGUAGE UP THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I PATTERNED THIS LANGUAGE AFTER. 
          AN AFTER THE WATERFRONT PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CHARTER. 
          AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR WHEN THAT WAS DONE, BUT I, I'D SAY IT WAS ABOUT TEN PLUS YEARS AGO. THE CITY COMMISSION ADDED SECTION 905 TO THE CITY CHARTER, AND THAT'S THE LONG TERM LEASE OR CONVEYANCE OF WATERFRONT PROPERTY, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL AT REFERENDUM. I THINK THE LAST ONE Y'ALL DID WAS THE FEED STORE, AND WE HAD TO RENEW THE LEASE BEYOND TEN YEARS. WE HAD TO COME. WE HAD TO COME BEFORE YOU AND THEN SEND IT OUT FOR REFERENDUM. AND IT IT PASSED AT THE LAST ELECTION. BUT THERE'S BEEN KIND OF QUESTIONS WHERE I GOT THE LANGUAGE THAT I PROPOSED TO YOU, AND I JUST BASICALLY PATTERNED IT AFTER SECTION 905. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THE TEN YEARS AS FAR AS NO MORE THAN TEN YEARS LEASE WITHOUT GOING OUT FOR REFERENDUM AND OF THE PROPERTY. SO THERE JUST SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED. WHERE DID I COME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE? I JUST PATTERNED IT AFTER THE ONE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND IT LOOKS LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THE EFFECTIVE DATE. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS 2006. SO IT WAS ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. AND I THINK MAX STUCKEY BROUGHT THAT BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME. AND SO SINCE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST AND WE'VE BEEN USING IT, THAT'S WHY I CAME UP WITH THAT LANGUAGE. IF YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN TEN YEARS OR YOU WANT TO DO LESS THAN TEN YEARS, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. OR YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THE LEASE OPTION OR WHATEVER WITH A, WITH A TIME PERIOD ON IT. IF YOU'LL SEE IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT THE LAST LINE I HAVE THAT THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT APPLY TO LEASES REASONABLY NECESSARY TO SUPPORT SPORTS RECREATION OR CONCESSION USES SERVING THE PROPERTY. SO THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS. WELL, WOULD ANYTIME A LITTLE LEAGUE HAS TO DO A LEASE, WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE US AND THEN GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM FOR APPROVAL? NO, I HAVE THAT IN THERE AS BEING EXCLUDED FROM THAT PROCESS. AND OUR LITTLE LEAGUES, AS THEY'VE JUST GONE THROUGH THE STAFF, THEY DON'T DO LEASES, THEY DO USE AGREEMENTS OR PERMITTING. SO REALLY WOULDN'T APPLY ANYWAY. 
          BUT I WANTED TO COVER IT IN CASE WE DECIDED TO DO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT GETS BIGGER AND WE 
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HAVE SOMEONE WANTS TO LEASE THE CONCESSION PART OF IT AND WE WANT TO GO OUT FOR BID. I MEAN, THE COUNTY DOES THAT AT THE BEACHES. I THINK THEY'RE NOT DOING IT ANYMORE. I THINK COUNTY STAFF YEAH. THEY USED TO GO OUT NOW COUNTY STAFF BUT THEY HAD THE OPTION OF SWITCHING IT. YEAH. SO AND AND SO. BUT WHEN I WAS AT THE COUNTY, IT WAS IT WAS A COMPANY THAT WE DID AN RFP OUT FOR AND THEY, THEY GOT IT. BUT WHEN THAT EXPIRED, WE DECIDED TO DO IT OURSELVES BECAUSE WHEN I WAS AT THE COUNTY, WHEN I SAY US. BUT SO, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE THAT OPTION IF WE WANT TO DO CONCESSIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE FOR THE PARK, FOR PARKS, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS IS BOTH ORIGINALLY YOU GUYS ONLY WANTED TO DEAL WITH. SAILFISH. THERE WASN'T A REASON TO INCLUDE GUY DAVIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT, JUST LIKE WE DID ALL WATERFRONT PROPERTY THAT WE DO ALL PARKS WITH BALL FIELDS. THERE IS A STATUTE OUT THERE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO DO ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER BY REFERENDUM. SO BY US DOING A SPECIFIC PROPERTY FOR A SPECIFIC USE, I FELT LIKE THAT WAS MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND IT COULD BE PROHIBITED BY STATUTE, BUT BY US DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE DID WITH THE WIDE WATER OR THE WATERFRONT PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY. I JUST PATTERNED IT EXACTLY AFTER THAT. SO I'M NOT STUCK TO THAT LANGUAGE. YOU SHOULDN'T BE EITHER, BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU WHAT MY MINDSET WAS THAT I PATTERNED IT AFTER SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY WAS HAD GONE OUT FOR REFERENDUM. OUR CHARTER WAS AMENDED AND, AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR 20 YEARS. SO AND WE'VE USED IT EVEN IN THE LAST ELECTION WITH THE FEED STORE. MR. BAGGETT, I ACTUALLY GOT THE SLIDE OF THAT, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU NEEDED TO REFER TO IT, IT WAS THERE FOR YOU. SURE. SO AT THE BOTTOM, NOT SECTION 905. I CAN'T READ IT VERY WELL, BUT I HAVE A COPY OF IT. BUT THAT, THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH WATERFRONT. WE'RE DEALING WITH BALL FIELDS. SO. 
          AND I ALSO HAD THE EXTRA SENTENCE IN THERE EXCLUDING LEASES IN REGARDS TO THE SPORTS AND CONCESSIONS. SO AGAIN IT'S NOT IDENTICAL BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR. SO I USED THAT IN DRAFTING THIS LANGUAGE. AND I ALSO PUT A SLIDE UP HERE FOR THE BALL FIELD REFERENDUM PROCESS. COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT PLEASE. SURE. SO I WE HAVE TO GO. WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH CALCULATIONS WITH THE CITY CLERK. WE CAN'T DO TWO READINGS AT THE NEXT TWO COMMISSIONS BECAUSE WE WILL BE WE WILL NOT MEET THE SUPERVISORS OF ELECTIONS DEADLINE. SO IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TO HAVE TWO READINGS, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SET A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE FIRST OR SECOND READING OF THIS. BUT WE COULD STILL MAKE THE GENERAL FIRST, RIGHT? YEAH. WE MISSED THE CORRECT THE PRIMARY WE MISSED A LONG TIME AGO. YEAH, THAT WAS IN JUNE WAS THE DEADLINE. BUT YES, SO AUGUST 20TH, 21ST. ALRIGHT. BUT THE SECOND MEETING IN IN AUGUST IS THE 24TH. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THE EITHER THE FIRST OR SECOND READING ON THIS. YEAH. AND, AND SO I WANTED TO BE WE ALSO WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HANEY CREEK TONIGHT, BUT WE'VE POSTPONED THAT. YEAH. WITH HANEY CREEK, IF YOU COULD PUT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE OR THE CHARTER LANGUAGE BACK UP THERE. THE CHARTER LANGUAGE NINE, SECTION 905. THAT. SO IF YOU PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND WE GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM, WE WOULD BE AMENDING THE CHARTER. AND THEN IT'S WHERE IT WOULD BE 905. WE WOULD HAVE 906 BELOW IT. BUT WITH HANEY CREEK, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN ADDED TO THE CHARTER. OKAY, SO WITH HANEY CREEK, WE JUST HAVE TO DO A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING IT GO OUT TO REFERENDUM. BUT IN THIS IN THE BALL FIELDS, WE HAVE TO DO AN EXTRA STEP. WE'VE GOT TO PUT IT IN THE CHARTER AND THEN GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE AMENDING OUR CHARTER AND YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE CHARTER. YOU ALSO HAVE TO GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM. SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT DIFFERENCE. WE DON'T NEED WE ONLY NEED ONE MEETING WITH HANEY CREEK. BUT WITH THE BALL FIELDS, WE NEED TO. AND THAT THAT WAS KIND OF CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO OVEREMPHASIZE THAT. SO I'M I'M HAPPY. ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS THIS IS THIS 
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I GUESS THIS IS THE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION I'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET TO THE SLIDE. 
          I'M GOING TO PUT IT UP. COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. SO MR. BAGGOTT. I DON'T SEE THAT LAST SENTENCE. THE LANGUAGE OF THAT LAST SENTENCE IN 905. AND I READ THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. SO 905 IS ALREADY IN OUR CHARTER. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SAYING YOU SAY YOU MODELED IT ON THAT, BUT YOU SAID I NEED TO GET IT BACK UP HERE. SORRY. COULD YOU PUT IT BACK UP, PLEASE? MR. CHOMSKY, ON. IT SAYS EXCEPTION. CAN I MAKE IT BIGGER? MAYBE I CAN MAKE IT OUT OF HERE SOMEWHERE. I CAN'T MAKE IT. I CANNOT MAKE IT BIGGER. LET ME GET IT. I CAN GIVE A WORLD OF READING IT FROM UP HERE, BUT I CAN READ, I GOT I GOT IT, I'VE GOT A HARD COPY IF YOU WANT ME TO READ IT. THIS RESTRICTION. SO THE RESTRICTION THAT YOU SHALL NOT SELL, CONVEY OR LEASE FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS, THIS RESTRICTION, THAT RESTRICTION DOES NOT APPLY TO LEASES. REASONABLE, NECESSARY, REASONABLY NECESSARY TO SUPPORT SPORTS RECREATION OR CONCESSION USES. THAT SAYS TO ME WE COULD LEASE IT FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS, ISN'T WHAT THAT LANGUAGE SAYS, BUT WE DON'T LEASE WITH THE LEAGUES OR THE CONCESSIONS. WE DO USE AGREEMENTS OR PERMANENT. BUT THEN WHY? BUT YOU'RE CREATING THAT OPENING. THAT'S MY POINT IS YOU'RE CREATING AN EXCEPTION FOR A SITUATION THAT HAS NEVER EXISTED. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT LANGUAGE TO ME SEEMS PERILOUS. I THINK YOU'RE CREATING AN OPEN FOR A SITUATION THAT AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN AT ALL IN PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY. I ACTUALLY, I WILL, I WOULD HOPE THE SENTENCE WOULD SAY THE CITY, THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT SELL, CONVEY OR LEASE. APPARENTLY WE SHOULDN'T SAY LEASE. ACTUALLY, WE DO USER AGREEMENTS. CORRECT. AND WE THE LONGEST EVER HAS BEEN 90 DAYS. OR IS THAT CORRECT OR. NO. 
          THEY'RE CONTINUOUS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE DONE. BUT YOU CAN THEY CAN BE CANCELED BY EITHER PARTY WITHIN 90 DAYS, RIGHT? WHICH FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR, A SEASON, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THIS, IT'S SUCH A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS, WE HAVE TWO RESPONSIBILITY HERE TO PROTECT THE BALL FIELDS. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY. IT CAN GO TO REFERENDUM TO PROTECT THEM, BUT WE'VE GOT TO COLLECT THE TAXPAYER HERE, PROTECT THE TAXPAYER. HERE THEY ARE ON THE HOOK FOR A LOT OF MONEY. EVERY YEAR FOR DECADES, WE HAVE HAD A THIRD PARTY AUDIT THE CITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BRING THAT SAME DEGREE OF SCRUTINY TO LOOKING AT THE TAXPAYER'S OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS. AND IN FACT, THE COMP PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS. AND BY THE WAY, THE COMP PLANS ARE GREAT. 
          IT REALLY IS A GREAT DOCUMENT. LET ME PULL IT UP HERE. IT SAYS UNDER SIX POINT A, 1.1, A DETERMINATION OF NONRESIDENT IMPACTS ON CITY RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS, AND THE WAYS IN WHICH THESE IMPACTS WILL BE OFFSET BY USER FEES, INTERGOVERNMENTAL COST SHARING. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THE SCHOOL BOARD AND MARTIN COUNTY FACILITIES CONSOLIDATION PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS OR OTHER MEANS, WHICH WOULD BE CONCESSIONS AND ADVERTISING. I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN HERE THAT ALL CONCESSION AND ADVERTISING REVENUE WILL INURE TO THE CITY AND NOT TO SOME TRAVEL LEAGUE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THAT IN THERE. YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT 6.8 IT SAYS. ENSURE ADEQUATE LAND FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO MEET THE CURRENT AND FUTURE RECREATIONAL NEEDS OF EACH AGE, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC GROUP IN THE CITY. THAT IS OUR OBLIGATION TO THE CHILDREN AND ADULTS IN THE CITY WHO WANT TO USE THESE FIELDS. AND IF IT'S I MEAN, I'VE HEARD AND JUST ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO GO ABOVE THAT AGAIN, PROVIDE A SYSTEM OF RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, SITES AND FACILITIES OF APPROPRIATE SIZE AND DESIGN AND CONVENIENT TO THE USE OF PARTICIPANTS AND THAT BENEFIT EACH AGE GROUP, 
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SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC GROUP OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY. SO IF 90% OF THE USERS OF THIS FACILITY DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, BUT I'M SAYING WE SHOULD BE VERY SCRUPULOUS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OF WHAT IT'S COSTING THE TAXPAYER, WHAT BENEFITS WERE GAINING. AND THAT'S THE LEAST DEGREE OF SCRUTINY WE CAN BRING TO THIS. 
          SO I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT TEN YEARS ANYWHERE NEAR THIS REFERENDUM ITEM. I THINK IT COULD BE MUCH SIMPLER AND PROVIDE MUCH GREATER PROTECTION TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF STUART. IS THAT SAME VERY LIMITED USER AGREEMENT TIME FRAME. TRUE OF ALL OF GUY DAVIS. 
          I'M SORRY, COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THESE USER AGREEMENTS ARE VERY SHORT IN TIME? IS THAT TRUE OF ALL THE GUY. YEAH. WELL, WE HAVE A WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND THAT'S RENEWED EACH YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE SEASONS AHEAD. 
          YES. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. YEAH. AND AS LONG AS WE FULFILL OUR SIDE OF THE AGREEMENT AND THEY FULFILL THEIRS. BUT OKAY, WHAT IT'S COSTING US, HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING THE TAXPAYERS? IT'S COSTING US 300, $310,000. THAT'S A LOT. ONE PIECE OF HISTORY YOU FORGOT HERE IS IN 13 AND 14, THE CITY RESIDENT SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO PAY TO MAINTAIN THOSE BALL FIELDS. THE CITY WAS IN DIRE FINANCIAL STRAITS AND THE RESIDENTS WERE LIKE, WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S IT IS CLEARLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS. YOU KNOW, IF OUR COSTS GO UP 10% BECAUSE AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT HERE, THE COST IS NOT JUST THE FERTILIZER WHICH IS GOING UP AND THE ELECTRICITY. AND IT'S ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIX WORK CREW AND, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS OF ALL THOSE WORKERS GOES UP IF IT GOES UP 10% A YEAR, THAT'S 30,000 MORE A YEAR. SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? OR SHOULD IT BE THE TRAVEL TEAMS, USERS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY IF THAT TRAVEL TEAM, IF THOSE AREN'T OUR KIDS? SO I JUST THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS WITH A VERY DISCERNING EYE EVERY YEAR AND MAKING SURE WE'RE MAKING THE BEST DEAL WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE TAXPAYERS. I'M ALL FOR PROTECTING THE FIELDS. I'M ALL FOR REFERENDUM, BUT NOT FROM THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS. MISS ALL MY LIFE. YES, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE THING THAT MR. RICH BROUGHT UP ABOUT PAYING FOR COMMISSIONER RICH BROUGHT UP ABOUT PAYING FOR THE. THE USE OF THE FIELD AND PEOPLE WHO USE THE FIELD. LIKE IF YOU WERE DOING THE CONCESSION STAND, SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME BEFORE IS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO USE THE CONCESSION STAND WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR KIDS THERE WITH CERTAIN. GAMES PLAYING, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW IT HAPPENS NOW, MR. REDSTONE, BUT PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, ALMOST LIKE, TO HAVE A FRANCHISE AT THE BALL FIELD AND BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY AND DO SOMETHING. AND I DON'T YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT NOW. THEY DON'T RAISE THEIR OWN MONEY FROM. THEY DO WHAT HAPPENS, JESSICA, WITH THE MAYOR'S AND THE CITY MANAGER'S PERMISSION, CAN I ASK A STAFF MEMBER TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW, THE THE PROVIDERS, THE SPECIAL, THE AGREEMENT PROVIDERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN THE CONCESSION STAND DURING THEIR SEASONS AND THINGS. SO, SO THEY DO HAVE THAT WE DO RENT THE CONCESSION STAND FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON OUT THERE. SO THERE ARE AVENUES FOR THAT THERE. WE DO NOT HAVE A WE HAVE NOT RFP, THE CONCESSION STANDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I THINK JUST PEOPLE JUST WANT TO HAVE MORE LEEWAY TO SAY, WE WANT TO JUST DO SOME STUFF. WE'LL RENT IT AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'S ALMOST LIKE MAKING A SMALL BUSINESS. PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT THAT. AND THAT 
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GOES TO MY NEXT QUESTION WITH REGARD TO HOW THINGS ARE MAINTAINED. I KNOW THAT RECREATION BUDGET, WE'VE HAD MONEY BEFORE FROM THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL THAT WAS TAKING CARE OF THE PROGRAM AND SO ON. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE HAVE THESE FIELDS, HOW DO WE PAY TO TO MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS? OF COURSE, THE MONIES ARE MOST OF THE MONEY SHOULD BE COMING FROM REVENUES FOR USING USING THE FIELDS. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT'S IN APPENDIX A, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD PEOPLE PAYING THOSE FEES. SO PRIMARILY, COMMISSIONER CLARK, THOSE REVENUES ARE BUDGETED THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEIR GENERAL FUND, THE MAINTENANCE ONES. YES, MA'AM. SO HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING. WE'RE GETTING APPROXIMATELY 10%. YEAH. RIGHT. 
          IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY 10% OF WHAT THE COST IS. AND SO OTHER THAN THOSE SPECIAL PROVIDERS, ALSO THE TRAVEL TEAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY ARE PAYING THEIR RENTAL FEES, THE LATE FEES AND THOSE TYPES OF THAT WHEN THEY DO RENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS PAYING TO PLAY. THEY ARE, THEY ARE. IT'S, IT'S JUST THOSE, THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER THAT SPECIAL USE AGREEMENT PROVIDER AGREEMENT THAT ARE DIFFERENT. WELL, WE KNOW THE NUMBER. YOU GAVE US THE NUMBER. I GAVE YOU ALL AN EMAIL BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CRUNCH THE NUMBERS BEFORE THE WEEKEND. AND I HAVE MINE HERE. YEP. BUT NOT MORE. YOU DID NOT GIVE US IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE CHILDREN OR YOUNG ADULTS OR ADULTS WHO USE THAT FIELD ARE RESIDENTS OF 20, 20%, SOMETIMES 20%. SO 20%, YES, SIR. GOES UP FROM 19 TO 21, BUT IT AVERAGES AT 20% BASED ON THE THE ROSTERS. HAS THAT NUMBER BEEN LOWER IN THE PAST? NOT NOT SINCE WE STARTED THE AGREEMENT AGREEMENT FROM FROM 20. THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED IN 2019, IN DECEMBER OF 2019. AND SO THEIR FIRST SEASON WAS IN 2020. AND SO IT'S BEEN AVERAGING AT ABOUT 20. IT'S BEEN 19 TO 21 IN THAT. SO ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 20%. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE THE THING TO. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO KNOW I WAS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR WHEN WE BUDGET THIS. BECAUSE IF THAT NUMBER, AT SOME POINT, IF THAT NUMBER DROPS TO 10 OR 5. THERE'S ACTUALLY A LAW THAT WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT THAT SAYS WE CANNOT. SORRY, I GET SO MANY THINGS. OKAY. I HAVE IT HERE. WE CANNOT YOU CANNOT USE CITY FUNDS TO BENEFIT A PRIVATE COMPANY OR ORGANIZATION USING THOSE FIELDS DROPS. I'M NOT SURE WE WOULDN'T BE PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO BE GUILTY OF THAT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT LAW THAT IS? YEAH, I GET IT FOR YOU. HERE. IT'S UNDER YEAR. IT'S ARTICLE. SEVEN, SECTION TEN OF THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION. NEITHER THE STATE NOR ANY COUNTY, MUNICIPALITY OR AGENCY OR ANY OF THEM SHALL BECOME A JOINT OWNER WITH OR STOCKHOLDER OF, OR GIVE LENDER USE ITS TAXING POWER OR CREDIT TO AID ANY CORPORATION, ASSOCIATION, PARTNERSHIP OR PERSON. IF WE HAVE A TINY PERCENTAGE OF OUR RESIDENTS USING THIS FACILITY AND WE'RE MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO THESE TRAVEL TEAMS THAT CHARGE OUR CHILDREN TOO MUCH, I'M NOT SURE WE WOULDN'T BE GUILTY OF THAT. WELL, THE TRAVEL TEAMS IN THE MARTIN COUNTY NORTH LITTLE LEAGUE ARE TWO DIFFERENT. NO, NO. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANTED YEAH. BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A VERY. THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT ANY. I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS TIED TO LONG TERM AGREEMENTS WITH ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION. THE ONLY AGREEMENT WE HAVE IS WITH THE TAXPAYERS. AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT I JUST WANT IT TO BE. 
          JUST THE ONE SENTENCE SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE YEAR OR ITS EXTENSIONS. LIKE YOU SAY. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, IF WE WORK WITH A GOOD ORGANIZATION, WE DID THIS AT THE SAILING CENTER. WE HAD AGREEMENTS. THEY WERE ONE YEAR AGREEMENTS, BUT THEY ROLLED OVER AS LONG AS WE BOTH PERFORMED. AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT AND IT DID NOT CREATE PROBLEMS. BUT I THINK THE LANGUAGE IN IT STINKS RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS REDUCING IT FROM TEN YEARS TO ONE YEAR. YES. THAT'S A REASONABLE ASK THAT I, I WOULD 
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IMAGINE MOST OF YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WOULD SUPPORT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE SAID THAT WHEN IT ORIGINALLY CAME UP. WE COULD HAVE BEEN ON THE REFERENDUM. 
          CORRECT. BUT HERE WE ARE. ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I HAD A QUESTION. 
          WHAT'S IT CURRENTLY ZONED FOR? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, BECAUSE I LOOKED THAT UP YESTERDAY. IN GENERAL, WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE, IT'S OURS. THEY'RE BOTH BALL FIELDS ARE ZONED COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SAILFISH IS ZONED URBAN GENERAL, GENERAL AND GUY DAVIS IS PUBLIC. 
          RIGHT. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, COMMISSIONER RICH, IS A SIMPLE ASK. AS FAR AS THE COST. I MEAN IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT THAT. IT'S GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? 64% OF VOTERS ALREADY VOTED FOR A REFERENDUM FOR PRESERVING MORE GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF IT. LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY THING. SOMETIMES I THINK WE HOLD TOO MUCH POWER UP HERE FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES AMONGST US. 
          I THINK IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN A BRIGHT LINE ONE LIKE THAT AS WELL. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS THOUGH. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE BEING UNREASONABLE THOUGH, WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN THE REFERENDUM. LANGUAGE COMMISSIONER JOB WELL, NO, I DON'T THINK SO EITHER. BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FROM LEASE TO USER AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ITEM THAT IS BASICALLY I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S CORRECT, MR. BAGGOTT, BUT YES, WE'VE NEVER HAVE WE EVER LEASED IT. WE DON'T WE DON'T LEASE IT. 
          SO IT'S CORRECT. BUT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO COME IN HERE AND WANT TO LEASE IT? I MEAN, WELL, IT COULD BE IN THE REFERENDUM THAT SAYS ALL THESE AGREEMENTS, WE ONLY HAVE TO GIVE 90 DAYS AND THEN THEY COULD LEASE IT. SO IT COULD HAPPEN. YEAH. I DID WANT TO MENTION IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE GOING INTO A BUDGET WORKSHOP, RIGHT? SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL BURDENS AND PEOPLE GETTING BELOW MARKET LEASES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THERE'S PLENTY OF THEM IN THE CITY. YOU HAVE. 151 FLAGLER AND 171 FLAGLER. THOSE ARE URBAN WATERFRONT PRIME REAL ESTATE PROPERTIES, BY THE WAY. AND ONE OF THEM GOES FOR $1,000 A MONTH AND THE OTHER ONE GOES FOR 1500. THAT'S DIRT CHEAP COMPARED TO WHAT THESE TWO PROPERTIES BRING IN FOR REVENUE COMPARED TO HUDSON'S, WHICH IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY AS WELL. THEY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. IT'S HARD TO GO, YOU KNOW, ONE PROPERTY AT A TIME. WE JUST VOTED ON PROJECT LIFT WHERE THEY PAY A DOLLAR. BUT THAT'S YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT AS AN ARGUMENT. LOOK AT IT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST THIS, BUT YEAH, NO, I AGREE. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN ANNUAL AUDIT. WE'VE DONE IT FOR PROJECT LIFT. HE RUNS THAT BUILDING. HE PAYS THE ELECTRICAL BILL. HE DOES THE MAINTENANCE. THAT'S HIS STAFF. THAT'S HIS LIABILITY. THE BALL FIELDS ARE THE TAXPAYERS. WE DO NOT HAVE A THIRD PARTY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THOSE BALL FIELDS. THOSE ARE OURS. SO IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          YEAH. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE ON 151 FLAGLER AND 171 FLAGLER IS THE CITY OF STUART RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I WOULD IMAGINE SO. RIGHT. I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE LOOKED AT. I MEAN IT'S JUST NOT TO GO BACK AND FORTH IN EXCHANGES. LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. AS SIMPLE AS THAT. CLARIFY THE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR THE REFERENDUM AND MOVE ON FROM IT. WE'RE HERE TO SET POLICY. AND. YEAH. SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE, MR. BAGGOTT? I DON'T I'VE NOT SEEN A VOTE, BUT I'VE SEEN DISCUSSION. BUT YEAH, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION. I IF IT WAS BASED ON A PROPOSAL FROM COMMISSIONER RICH, IT WOULD BE THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT SELL, CONVEY OR LEASE FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR, INCLUDING ANY RENEWAL OPTIONS, ANY CITY OWNED REAL PROPERTY CONTAINING RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS, UNLESS FIRST APPROVED BY THE VOTERS THROUGH A PUBLIC REFERENDUM HELD UNDER CHAPTER NINE, SECTION 9.04 PROCEDURES FOR VACATING PUBLIC STREETS OR ABANDONING THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND I WILL REMOVE THE LAST SENTENCE. RIGHT. SIMPLE. SEEMS SIMPLE. DO YOU HAVE VERY SIMPLE MOTIONS THIS EVENING? SECOND, DO YOU WANT A CONSENSUS? EITHER THE SECOND BUT THE OTHER CAN I JUST I'M SORRY. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT GOING TO INHIBIT YOUR ABILITY TO OPERATE THOSE FIELDS AND HAVE TEAMS COME TO YOU. AND YEAH, TEAMS WILL BE COMING FOR THAT. CAN WE? OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AS LONG AS THE CITY MAINTAINS THE PROPERTY AND WE RUN IT AS A BALL FIELD SHOULDN'T INHIBIT ANYTHING. I MEAN, OKAY, THE WAY THAT THE AGREEMENTS WORK, THEY ARE ON AN 
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ANNUAL BASIS. THEY THEY ROLL OVER, RIGHT? UNLESS SOMEBODY IS UNSATISFIED WITH THE AGREEMENT, THEN THEY HAVE 90 DAYS TO GO AHEAD AND WRITE AND EXPRESS THAT. AND SO FAR, WE'VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL OF OUR AGREEMENT HOLDERS. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND WE WOULD JUST, IF WE WANTED TO TERMINATE ANY OF THE LONG TERM USE AGREEMENTS, WE JUST NEED TO GIVE 90 DAYS NOTICE. SO THERE IS NO LONG TERM COMMISSIONER. YOUR LIGHT WAS ON. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. I'LL TURN I TURN THE LIGHT SWITCHES OFF, BY THE WAY. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. SO THE QUESTION IS YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING BEFORE THAT WE COULD THEN. WELL, A COMMISSION BOARD COULD THEN SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THE ONE YEAR FOR THE WHAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY THERE? NOT LEASES. 
          THEY'RE USER AGREEMENTS. IS THERE A LANGUAGE WE SHOULD PUT IN THERE THAT. NO, IT CANNOT BE TERMINATED. WOULDN'T IT HAVE TO BE ANOTHER REFERENDUM? NO. SO FIRST OFF, THEIR THEIR THEIR USE AGREEMENT, EVEN THE AMPHITHEATER OUT HERE ON THE WATERFRONT, WE USE USE AGREEMENTS. PEOPLE COME AND USE. WE HAVE A USE AGREEMENT FOR PEOPLE TO USE THAT. SO IT'S IF YOU WANT TO RENT A FACILITY FOR A PARTY OR A WEDDING, IT'S A USE AGREEMENT. SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF, I SHOULD SAY A FEW OF THE LEAGUES HAVE LONG TERM USE AGREEMENTS AND OTHER ONES. IT'S JUST ONE TIME SHOT, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO THAT'S CORRECT. IT HAD A VARIETY OF USE AGREEMENTS UP THERE. THE LONG TERM ONES ARE THEY, THEY JUST THEY THEY GO INDEFINITE UNLESS YOU CAN CANCEL THEM WITHIN 90 DAYS. NOTICE EITHER SIDE. THE CITY CAN SAY WE'RE DONE IN 90 DAYS. WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WHEN COMMISSIONER RICH SAID, YOU CAN'T LEASE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T USE IT. WE DON'T LEASE IT BECAUSE WE USE USE AGREEMENTS. BUT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CANCEL THE USE AGREEMENTS WITH 90 DAYS NOTICE, AND THEN WE'RE FREE TO LEASE IT OR SELL IT WHATEVER WE WANT. WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO ANY LONG TERM AGREEMENTS CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE CAN CANCEL THEM WITH 90 DAYS NOTICE. BUT THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT FIVE PEOPLE SITTING UP HERE COULDN'T MAKE A DECISION TO SELL THEM RIGHT AT ANY POINT IN TIME. YEAH, THAT THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S SITUATION LEASE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT NO ONE'S LEASING IT CURRENTLY. YES. CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I DEALT WITH THIS NEW AIRPORT WORLD. I, I WILL RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT DON'T EVEN LOOK AT IT AS A LEASE OR SELL, BUT CONTROL, LONG TERM CONTROL. IF YOU WERE TO SUBSTITUTE THE WORD CONTROL FOR LEASE OR SELL, BECAUSE THESE OBLIGATIONS, THESE LANDS ARE OBLIGATED, NO MATTER HOW THEY'RE OBLIGATED, AND YOU HAVE CONTROL OF THEM. SO I THINK SOMETIMES THE CONFUSION AND YES, A LICENSE AGREEMENT, IT IS IS IT A USEFUL TOOL? IT'S A PERMIT. IT'S A ONE TIMER. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MEAN THE ONE TIMER DOESN'T REOCCUR AS IN THESE CASES, BUT IT'S A TOOL TO GET THERE. IT'S A CONVEYANCE MECHANISM. SO IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL. AND THE ULTIMATE CONTROL SHOULD BE WITH THE CITIZENS. YES IS WHAT I'M HEARING. YES, COMMISSIONER. NO, THAT WAS MY SORRY. THAT WAS IT WAS THE CONTROL. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO USE, IT SHOULD BE WITH NOT THE FIVE PEOPLE SITTING HERE AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME WITH THE CITIZENS WHO ARE PAYING FOR THOSE BALL FIELDS AND UTILIZING THEM WITH WHATEVER PERCENTAGE THEY ARE. SO I, I THINK IS THIS A MOTION WE CAN MAKE OR ARE WE JUST MOVING IT TO CAMPBELL? WE'LL BRING BACK THE LANGUAGE FOR THE FIRST READING. YES. I IF YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS OF THAT LANGUAGE PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER RICH, WE WILL COME BACK. BUT REMEMBER, WE DO NOT HAVE TWO MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE DEADLINE ON SUPERVISOR ELECTIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL SET MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD DO THAT NOW TO GET A DATE SO THAT WE KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS ARE READY, OR ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISSIONER JOB IS GOING OUT OF TOWN, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN GOING OUT OF TOWN IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY, SO I'M HERE. 
          SO WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE ON AUGUST 10TH. WHEN WOULD YOU NEED ONE? OBVIOUSLY BY THE 21ST. 
          SO THE. SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE BEFORE TO DO THE FIRST READING. 
          WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A. YOU HAVE TO HAVE TEN DAYS OF ADVERTISEMENT PRIOR TO THE SECOND READING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BETTER TO MAYBE DO THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE FIRST READING AND THEN HOLD THE SECOND READING ON THE 10TH, BUT THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION. JEEZ, THAT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR THE TEN DAYS. THEN MARY WOULDN'T MAKE THAT. YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THE SECOND READING SET THE DATE NOW, SO IT'D BE PUBLIC ADVERTISED WITH ENOUGH TIME. WHAT IS THE DATE? WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR THE PUBLIC ADVERTISING DAYS? 
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SO AS LONG AS THERE'S AN ADVERTISEMENT IN THE NEWSPAPER ON THE FIRST OR THE 31ST, I MEAN, THAT WOULD MEAN WE'D HAVE A MEETING TO GO TO THE LPA. WHEN IS THE LPA HAS TO GO TO THE LPA FIRST WENT TO THE LPA ALREADY. NOT THIS LANGUAGE, BUT IT HAD THIS. YEAH, IT WAS SIMILAR LANGUAGE, BUT I, I WOULD SAY WE ALREADY WENT TO THE LPA, BUT I'M IN. YOU'RE FREE AFTER THE LPA MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE IT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT IF THERE'S YOU'RE SAYING THIS AMENDED LANGUAGE AND THE PRIOR LANGUAGE ARE THE SAME. SO LET ME LET ME LET'S SAY THIS LANGUAGE WENT TO THE LPA AND IT WAS APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED TO YOU. AND YOU GUYS STILL THE FIRR SECOND READING. YOU CAN DO THAT. I MEAN, IT'S THE LPA MAKES A RECOMMENDATION. THEY'VE ALREADY EVALUATED THE, THE, THE PROPOSED REFERENDUM LANGUAGE. 
          SO AND THEY RECOMMENDED WHAT WAS WHAT'S UP HERE NOW AND WHY DID WAS IT ON THE SLIDE THAT IT SAID IT HAD TO GO TO THE LPA? BECAUSE THE WHOLE PROCESS DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LPA. IT WENT THROUGH THE LPA. AND YOU GUYS HAD A FIRST READING ON THIS ORDINANCE. THERE'S STILL TIME TO GET ON THE LPA FOR THE 13TH IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEEDED IT TO GO THROUGH THEM. AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S A MISLEADING ELEMENT ON THAT SLIDE. MR. BAGGETT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DIDN'T MAKE THE SLIDE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU ALREADY WENT TO THE LPA. SO LET'S SAY THE LPA RECOMMENDED THIS LANGUAGE. AND YOU GUYS, WHEN IT GOT TO YOU MADE A CHANGE. ARE YOU SAYING IT'S INEFFECTIVE AND IT'S ILLEGAL? I MEAN, THAT HAPPENS A LOT. NO, I'M I'M SAYING THAT'S FINE. YOU COULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AFTER THE LPA. OKAY. BUT THE BASIS OF THIS REFERENDUM WENT TO THE LPA AND YOU GUYS ARE CHANGING IT. YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT REGARDLESS. OKAY, SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE LPA ON IT. WE'RE NOT LIKE SCRAPPING IT AND STARTING OVER. AND THEY'RE ADVISING US. WE'RE JUST LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE NORMALLY. I MEAN, WE WOULD WE EVEN KEEP THE SAME ORDINANCE NUMBER. YOU SHOULD. YEAH. SO THE ORDINANCE NUMBER IS NOT EVEN GOING TO CHANGE IF IT COMES BACK. OKAY. SO YOU'RE THE ATTORNEY I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ARE WE IF WE DO A SPECIAL SET MEETING, CAN WE STILL DO IT FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST FOR THE SECOND READING? I DON'T WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW TO ADVERTISE IT IF WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD GO. I COULD ADVERTISE IT EVEN PRIOR TO FIRST READING, AS LONG AS IT'S ADVERTISED TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE SECOND READING FOR THE SECOND READING. 
          OKAY. CAN YOU ADVERTISE THIS SUBSEQUENT MEETING PRIOR TO THE. I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT CHANCE THAT IT DIDN'T PASS. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN DO THAT. WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO IT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE NOW MEETING ON THE 20TH, BUT WE'D HAVE A MEETING ON A DATE TO SET IT. JUST EMAILING HIM. I THINK WE HAVE A CRB ON THE REFERENDUM SHOULD BE IN PRESIDENTIAL YEARS ANYWAY. YEP. WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE VOTE. CRB ON THE FOURTH HAS BEEN CANCELED, SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE THAT DATE AND. BUT THAT'S STILL TOO SHORT. I WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISING PRIOR TO THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE AT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AT THE 21ST. 
          YEAH. WE HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNED. YEAH. ORDINANCE WITH THE CHARTER LANGUAGE. RIGHT. TO GET TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ON THE 21ST. MARY. SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNED ORDINANCE WITH THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. YES. AT THE 10TH ENDS. READY? THAT'S ONLY ONE WEEK. I WOULD HAVE I KNOW, MIKE, YOU HAD A COMMENT AS WELL. MAYOR, THE INTENT OF THIS SLIDE WAS NEVER TO PROPOSE A SCHEDULE FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. IT IT WAS INFORMATIONAL. IT WAS THE PROCESS THAT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IT WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS JUST ALL ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JIM. I THINK EVERYONE REALLY HAS A BETTER VIEW NOW. IT'S A GREAT STORY. SO WHEN WE COME UP WITH FOR THIS DATE STUFF, YOU'RE I'M DON'T LOOK AT ME. JUST WE GOT A SCHEDULE. IT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE TWO. THEY GOTTA BE 14 DAYS APART. CAN WE MEET THIS WEEK? CAN WE MEET THIS WEEK FOR FIRST READING? I WON'T BE HERE. OH. YOU'RE LEAVING? THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT WE GOTTA GET WHILE EVERYBODY'S HERE. WE GOTTA GET THEIR AVAILABILITY. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THURSDAY WE. IF WE COULD ALL MEET. BUT YOU LEAVE TOMORROW, RIGHT? UNLESS I COULD HAVE FAITH IN ALL THREE OF YOU GUYS. DOESN'T LOOK THAT PROMISING, THOUGH. WE DO A IF 
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
          I THINK WE'RE FINE. WE JUST HAVE THE 30 DAY ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE ACTUAL ELECTION, NOT FOR OUR ORDINANCE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE MOTION. OKAY. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO RESTATE THE VERBATIM LANGUAGE THAT COMMISSIONER RICH USED, OR DO WE HAVE THAT? HOW ABOUT I READ THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER RICH GIVE A NOD. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT HE WANTED SO THAT THE LANGUAGE. SOMEONE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT LANGUAGE. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO. YOU THERE WAS NOTHING TO BE CHANGED WITH THE TITLE. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE LANGUAGE IN IN, IN THE REFERENDUM. RIGHT. I'M GOING TO READ THE TITLE. CAN YOU BRING IT BACK UP, JIM? THE, THE SLIDE ON THE THAT ONE. SO THERE'S THE TITLE STEWART CITY CHARTER AMENDMENT SALE OR LONG TERM LEASE OF CITY PROPERTY CONTAINING RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS MUST BE APPROVED BY REFERENDUM VOTE. SHALL THE CITY CHARTER OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA BE AMENDED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING PROVISION. THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT SELL, CONVEY OR LEASE FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR, INCLUDING ANY RENEWAL OPTIONS. ANY CITY OWNED PROPERTY CONTAINING RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS, UNLESS FIRST APPROVED BY THE VOTERS THROUGH A PUBLIC REFERENDUM HELD UNDER CHARTER 
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SECTION 9.04. PROCEDURES FOR VACATING PUBLIC STREETS OR ABANDONING RIGHT OF WAY PERIOD. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. AND THEN YES OR NO. CORRECT. LESS IS MORE. NO. LESS. NO. SURE. MIKE AND MIKE HAS A CITY MANAGER. MAY I RECOMMEND REMOVING THE WORDS LONG AND TERM? IN THE TITLE BECAUSE WE DID SHORTEN IT. GOOD POINT. CORRECT. YOU HAVE TO READ THAT AS WELL. NO. SO REMOVE LONG TERM FROM THE TITLE. FROM THE TITLE. YEAH GOOD POINT. SO JUST SAY A SALE OR LEASE. 
          RIGHT. SOUNDS MUCH CLEANER. AND CHANGING THE WORD LEASE TO USER AGREEMENT USER AGREEMENTS. 
          RIGHT. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE USE AGREEMENTS APPROVED BY REFERENDUM THAT WOULD. OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT THIS ONLY APPLIES BECAUSE OF RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS, BECAUSE THAT BALL FIELDS ARE NOT DEFINED IN THAT COMP PLAN. 
          IT ONLY APPLIES TO SAILFISH AND GUY DAVIS ONLY. IT APPLIES TO THE FOOTBALL FIELD. RIGHT. AND GUY DAVIS NO THIS IS SALE. SO IT'S JUST CITY PROPERTY CONTAINING RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS. WELL THERE'S A LOT OF CITY PROPERTY BUT NOT CONTAINING BOATS AROUND BUT NOT CONTAINING BALL FIELDS. I'M JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY, BUT THE FOOTBALL FIELD IS INCLUDED ON GUY DAVIS. YES, BUT GUY DAVIS, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING GUY DAVIS IS INCLUDED. 
          BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A BASEBALL. RIGHT? IT'S BALL. RIGHT. WE HAVE RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS. 
          WE DON'T SAY BASEBALL FIELDS. IT'S RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THAT STATED. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. HE MADE THE MOTION. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED. WE WANTED THE MOTION. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO FORMALLY AMEND MOTION. YOU CAN SAY MY MOTION IS TO COME BACK WITH THE AS A PROPOSED LANGUAGE. AS MR. BAGGOTT. JUST READ IT ON THE RECORD. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S MY MOTION. THAT'S HIS MOTION. OKAY. AND DO WE NEED THE SECOND THAT AGAIN? AND I WOULD ALSO PUT IN THERE AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE SCHEDULES TO TRY AND GET TWO SPECIAL SET MEETINGS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE TWO READINGS. 
          SHAKE YOUR HEAD TO WORK WITH THE STAFF TO BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSION TWICE AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. FINE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SHOULD WE FILL OUT A GREEN CARD? MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME. THREE MINUTES. WELCOME, FRANK. HI, FRANK. BACK IN 2018, THIS PLACE WAS PACKED WITH WITH BALL PLAYERS AND THEIR PARENTS. AND I REMEMBER GETTING THE BIGGEST BOO OF MY LIFE ALMOST TARRED AND FEATHERED THAT NIGHT WHEN I SAID, LOOK, I DON'T REALLY CARE IF THEY REMAIN BASEBALL FIELDS AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN GREEN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD TO EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD, AND YOU'VE GOT TENNIS COURTS AND MEMORIAL PARK AND SAILFISH PARK, TO ME, THAT IS A PART OF US AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY, AS MUCH AS ANY RIVERWALK. IT IS JUST A PART OF WHO WE ARE. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY OF OUR KIDS PLAY THERE. I KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF. WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE IN 1973, THINKING, WOW, WHAT A GREAT PLACE THE CITY OF STUART IS. WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE HERE AT THE TIME, BUT I REMEMBER THINKING, SOMEDAY I'M GOING TO LIVE IN STUART BECAUSE LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE, MAN, THIS PLACE IS GREAT. LOOK AT THESE TENNIS COURTS, BALL FIELDS. SO THAT WAS 2018 BEFORE BRIGHTLINE. 
          OKAY. BEFORE ANY IDEAS OF WHERE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION HUB SHOULD BE IN THIS COUNTY. AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY WHO VIEW US AS A CITY. AND CITIES ARE WHERE YOU SHOULD HAVE A BRIGHT LINE TRAIN STATION, A BUS DEPOT. AND IF YOU GO AROUND THE OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE THESE SO-CALLED FUTURISTIC CITIES WHERE THE EVIL CAR GETS TO GO AWAY BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN WALK, PLAY AND WORK, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY LIVE. WELL, THIS IS WHERE THEY WANT IT, RIGHT? SO FROM A STRATEGIC POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, WHO ARE WE? AS STUART? ARE WE GOING TO REMAIN WHO WE ARE NOW? OKAY. OR ARE WE GOING TO BE THE TRANSPORTATION HUB AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES INTO AROUND THOSE 
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TRANSPORTATION HUBS? AND THE STATE SAYS THAT YOU GET TO LOOK OUT ONE MILE AWAY FROM THAT TRANSPORTATION HUB TO THE TALLEST BUILDING, AND YOU GET TO USE THAT AS A AS A REFERENCE. 
          AS FAR AS HOW TALL THOSE RESIDENTIAL TOWERS CAN BE. SO THAT'S THE FUTURE. IT'S A STRATEGIC SPOT THAT NEEDS TO REMAIN GREEN, OKAY. OR EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE IN MIND. IT'S A STRATEGIC SPOT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO TURN US INTO SOMETHING VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ARE NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WATCH VIDEO AND DID NOT CATCH WHO YOU ARE AND OR AND AND THEY CAN'T SEE YOU? I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS FRANCIS JOSEPH MCCHRYSTAL, A THIRD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT WILL OFTEN. I HATE TO BE THAT GUY TO DRAG IT OUT, BUT MY NAME IS WILL LAUGHLIN. 950 SOUTH COUNTY HIGHWAY. THANK YOU, JOE, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I DO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK TO DIG OUT THE INFORMATION. HAVING LOOKED INTO THIS JIM, JIM, JIM, JIM, JIM, JIM, SORRY IT'S LATE, BUT REZONING TO PUBLIC WOULD BE. 
          I'M GLAD THAT THE COMMISSION BROUGHT UP THAT THE. THE CURRENT ZONING FOR SELFISH PARK IS URBAN GENERAL. THAT DOES PUT IT UNDER THE GUISE OF BEING PROCURED THROUGH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT AND THESE LAWS. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO BUILD WALLS TO DEFEND SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO PROTECT HERE IN STUART. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THE REFERENDUM THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AS WELL, MAYBE REZONE IT TO PUBLIC FROM THE CURRENT URBAN GENERAL. ALSO, AS FAR AS FOLLOWING THE COMP PLAN, I LIKED HOW JIM PUT COMP PLAN POLICY. 7.84.5, HOW THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL WORK TOGETHER TO COORDINATE RECREATIONAL USE OF FACILITIES, PRIMARILY AS IT RELATES TO ORGANIZATIONS AND ORGANIZED ATHLETIC PLAY OR ATHLETIC LEAGUE PLAY. THE CITY WILL PURSUE SIMILAR APPROACHES WITH SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS IF OPPORTUNITIES ARISE. SO IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW OUR COMP PLAN, THEN WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE AREA AND FROM OUT OF THE CITY THAT WILL PARTICIPATE ON THOSE FIELDS. SO, YES, WE HAVE CONCERNS. WE WANT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RESIDENTS USING THESE FIELDS, BUT OUR COMP PLAN, AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, DOES ALLOW FOR INDIVIDUALS FROM OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA TO USE THOSE FIELDS. 
          AND LASTLY, BEING THAT IT IS WITHIN THE CRA, IF WE GET USE OUR IMAGINATION, WE CAN DEFINITELY DREAM UP A LOT OF WAYS TO INCREASE REVENUE FROM THOSE BALL FIELDS. THIS IS A HOTBED FOR BASEBALL. YOU COULD EASILY HAVE TOURNAMENTS THAT COME THERE, AND SINCE WE HAVE A NEW HOTEL BEING BUILT ON COLORADO, I'M SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE AND TEAMS FROM OUT OF STATE AND OUT OF THE AREA. AT THE VERY LEAST, COME AND USE THESE FIELDS. IF WE WERE TO REALLY MODERNIZE AND USE SOME OF THAT CRA FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE BALL FIELDS INTO A GRADE A TYPE OF FACILITY, WE MAY NOT NEED, YOU KNOW, TURN IT INTO THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES, BUT IT WOULD BE A QUITE A USE OF GOOD USE OF CRA FUNDS. AND WE CAN GET SOME RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. AND AGAIN, THANKS, JIM AND EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR EFFORTS. THANKS, WILL. CITY ATTORNEY LEE, IT'S NOT REGARDING THIS MOTION, BUT AFTER THIS MOTION, I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DISCUSS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VOTE ON THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? NOPE. MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL FOR THIS. MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT WAS THE NEXT ONE? LEE, I HAVE A ALL RIGHT. BUT LET ME BRING UP THE ISSUE. SO THEY WERE AWARE OF IT. SO YOU GUYS HAD DID A MOTION ON THE AGENDA TO POSTPONE HANEY CREEK TO THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS AUGUST 10TH. YOU POSTPONED A D AND D TO THE NEXT MEETING, AUGUST 10TH. IF YOU GUYS AGREE ON A, D AND D, THEN YOU GOT TO BRING BACK THE RESOLUTION, WHICH THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME BEFORE THE DUE DATE WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, BECAUSE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST IS THREE DAYS LATER, PAST THE DEADLINE. SO YOU SINCE YOU DID A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE D AND D TO THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 10TH, I THINK YOU NEED TO RE AMEND THAT MOTION BECAUSE. YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IT IN IN I, I HAVE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. SO 
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I WERE JUST DISCUSSING THE CALENDAR. AND IF WE DO THE SAILFISH BALL FIELD AND WE DO TWO SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETINGS, UNFORTUNATELY IT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT TO THAT AUGUST 3RD, THE FIRST READING, AND THEN AUGUST 17TH, THE SECOND READING, AND THEN HANEY CREEK. WE COULD DO AUGUST 10TH, THE D AND D, JUST AS COMMISSIONER JOB HAD MADE THE MOTION FOR. AND THEN AUGUST 17TH AT THE SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING, WE COULD BRING FORWARD THE RESOLUTION FOR THE ONE TIME READING FOR HANEY CREEK, AND THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING IN TIME FOR REFERENDUM. THAT'S NOT A WEEK ADVERTISING FOR THE HANEY CREEK, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE AUTHORIZATION UNTIL. CANEY CREEK DOESN'T NEED TWO READINGS, THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT ONE DOESN'T NEED AT THE ADVERTISING. RIGHT. BUT OKAY, SO AUGUST 10TH, SO IT'LL BE SEVEN DAYS IS WHAT YOU'RE D AND D ON AUGUST 10TH BECAUSE WE NEED SEVEN DAYS SCHEDULED COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN AUGUST 17TH AT IF WE CREATE A SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING FOR BOTH THE SECOND READING OF SAILFISH BALL FIELDS AND THE FIRST AND ONLY READING FOR HANEY CREEK. ALRIGHT, YEAH, I GUESS THAT WOULD WORK. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT ISSUE UP THAT. YES, WE WEREN'T THINKING OF IT. SO WOULD WE PREFER TO EMAIL EVERYONE IN THE MORNING AFTER WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK THEIR CALENDARS? THEY'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST 3RD IN THE 17TH. REGARDLESS, I GOT FAITH IN MY BOARD MEMBERS. THEY CAN GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. SO I GOT FAITH, GUYS. SO BUT WE DON'T NEED TO REDO THAT MOTION IN MOVING ANY CREEK. OKAY, WELL, I SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE D AND D AS ALREADY MOVED ON AUGUST 10TH. OKAY. THE SECOND SPECIAL MEETING IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY AUGUST 17TH, A WEEK LATER. SO YOU COULD DO THE D AND D ON HANEY CREEK AND THEN A WEEK LATER DO THE RESOLUTION FOR IT TO GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM. 
          WE ALL GOOD. THAT MAKES SENSE. WE'RE GOOD. I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING THEN. 
          THANKS, GUYS. THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT STAYED HERE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.