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          HELPING HIS BROTHER OUT AND. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ORDER ON AUGUST 10TH, 2026 AT 4:17 P.M. MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL. MAYOR REED 
          [INVOCATION]
HERE, COMMISSIONER CLARK HERE. COMMISSIONER JOB HERE, COMMISSIONER RICH HERE. AND WE HAVE INVOCATION BY PRESIDENT JOANNE GILLESPIE FROM THE HUMANIST OF THE TREASURE COAST. 
          AND IF YOU COULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTER. YES. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          COMMISSIONERS, STAFF AND NEIGHBORS. AS SUMMER WRAPS US IN ITS WARMTH AND LONG DAYS, WE GATHER WITH PURPOSE AND HOPE FOR WHAT IS POSSIBLE. SUMMER INVITES US TO TAKE STOCK, TO NURTURE WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT NEEDS CARE, AND KEEP REACHING TOWARD THE FUTURE WE WANT TO BUILD. LET US TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THE HEART OF PUBLIC SERVICE. THOMAS JEFFERSON ONCE WROTE, THE CARE OF HUMAN LIFE AND HAPPINESS IS THE FIRST AND ONLY LEGITIMATE OBJECT OF GOOD GOVERNMENT. MAY THOSE WORDS GROUND YOU AS YOU CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORS, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT IN THE SEASONS TO COME. MAY YOU BRING EMPATHY TO YOUR DEBATES, CLARITY TO YOUR DECISIONS, AND HUMILITY TO YOUR LEADERSHIP. LET US LISTEN WELL, SPEAK THOUGHTFULLY, AND WORK TOWARD SOLUTIONS THAT REFLECT OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF STEWART'S WELL-BEING. WITH GRATITUDE FOR THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD TOGETHER. 
          MAY YOU BEGIN TODAY'S WORK WITH CLEAR EYES, STEADY HANDS, AND AN OPEN MIND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND 
          [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND THEN NEXT UP, WE HAVE AN ARTS MOMENT WITH A LOCAL ARTIST NAMED SEAN MCGRAW. WELCOME, SEAN. HELLO, HELLO, HELLO. OKAY, PUT UP MY WEBSITE TO THANK MISS CLARK FOR INVITING ME ACROSS THE HALL. CAN YOU. YEAH. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. HELLO? HELLO. OH, NOT CLOSE ENOUGH. PERFECT. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU, MISS CLARK, FOR INVITING ME FOR THIS. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR THIS MOMENT OF THE ARTS. SO, MY NAME IS SEAN. I'M A LOCAL ARTIST. 
          I'M ORIGINALLY FROM JUPITER, BUT I SPENT A LOT OF MY LIFE UP HERE. AND I WAS AN EDUCATOR UP HERE FOR A BIT AT MARTIN HIGH, THE ART TEACHER. SO I DO LOCAL BOAT AND, YOU KNOW, FLORA, FAUNA PAINTING, I GUESS YOU CALL LANDSCAPES. AND THEN I ALSO DO SCULPTURE. I DO FIGURATIVE SCULPTURE. A LOT OF SEMINOLE HISTORY, FLORIDA HISTORY, SCULPTURE. I KNOW MR. SMITH DOES LOTS OF BIRDS AND ANIMALS AND I DO THE PEOPLE PART OF THAT. BUT ANYWAYS, I BROUGHT THESE TO SHOW Y'ALL. AND IN THE COUNCIL. THERE YOU GO. GREAT. AND THAT'S KIND OF ALL I HAVE TO SAY. DOES ANY IS THAT OKAY? GOOD. OKAY, PERFECT. WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION AS WELL FOR YOU. I KNOW THE MICS A LITTLE LOW. I FEEL, OH, MAYBE I GOTTA GET IT REALLY CLOSE. YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. OKAY. AND I DON'T USUALLY SPEAK PUBLICLY, SO I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE A RENDITION OF THE HOUSE OF REFUGE. I ACTUALLY, I DID, I ACTUALLY BROUGHT STICKERS FOR ALL OF YOU OF, OF ONE OF THE DRAWINGS. SO I WAS GOING TO GIVE THOSE OUT TO YOU. OH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. WHENEVER THAT'S APPROPRIATE. AND YOU, YOU, YOU WERE IN THE MARTIN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MURAL ALONG THE COLORADO AVENUE. I WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT MURAL. 
          YES. THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THE, THE GOVERNOR AND SEMINOLE INDIAN ON THERE THAT WE MADE SURE THAT WAS ON THERE. THAT WAS MY PART OF THAT. YEP. I WAS THE ART TEACHER AT MARTIN HIGH FOR A WHILE. I WAS THE ART TEACHER AT LINCOLN PARK ACADEMY IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, WHERE THE HIGHWAYMEN STARTED ALSO. SO BUT NOW I DO THIS FULL TIME. SO YOU SHARE OFFICES. BESIDES, I DO I'M I'M REALLY LUCKY WHEN I HAVE THE BEST ATTORNEY NEXT TO ME RIGHT HERE. SO YEAH, IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE THAT AS AN OFFICE NEIGHBOR. YEAH. THANK YOU SEAN. THANK YOU ALL. THANK 
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YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. OH OF COURSE. HANG ON. THE MAYOR WANTS TO PRESENT THAT. 
          YEAH. CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION. SURE. ALL RIGHT. OH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR TAKING SEAN. I HAVE ONE ALREADY. OH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S NICE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SEAN. SEAN, MARY AND WHO I AM. BUT THERE'S EXTRA THAT HE MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE THEM BACK. I CAN GIVE IT TO TO. THANK YOU. YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON. YES I DID, YEAH. 
          BEFORE SEAN LEAVES, I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE IF THEY COULD LOOK HIM UP AND FOLLOW HIM ON FACEBOOK OR JUST LOOK UP HIS WEBSITE. HIS WORK IS BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU SEAN. 
          [PROCLAMATIONS]
THANKS. NEXT UP, WE HAVE PROCLAMATION FOR CONSTITUTION WEEK. THE RECIPIENT WILL BE RAY MECCA, IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT. OKAY. FROM MEMBER OF THE CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY, DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. LEE, IF YOU COULD READ THE PROCLAMATION. SURE. 
          CONSTITUTION WEEK, SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2026. WHEREAS, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026 MARKS THE 239TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY 39 BRAVE PATRIOTS. AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO ACCORD OFFICIAL RECOGNITION TO THIS ENDURING DOCUMENT, IN THIS MEMORABLE ANNIVERSARY, AND TO THE PATRIOTIC CELEBRATIONS AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION. AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC LAW 915 ASSURES THE ISSUING OF A PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK. NOW THEREFORE, I, SEAN READ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2026 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK. THANK YOU, MAYOR REED AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. THE COMMITMENT OF THE DAR IS TO ENCOURAGE, STUDY AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY THE AMERICAN CONGRESS OF THE CONFEDERATION ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 1787. THIS SUPPORTS DAR'S OVERALL MISSION. AREAS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, EDUCATION AND PATRIOTISM. 
          PLEASE JOIN US IN RINGING THE BELL AT 4:00 ON SEPTEMBER 17TH AT THE GAZEBO. ON BEHALF OF OUR ALMOST 300 MEMBERS OF CHAPTER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO PRESENT AS WELL. IF YOU ALL WANT TO GET IN WITH THE PHOTO AS WELL FOR IT. 
          COMMENT. OH, COMMISSIONER CLARK HAD A COMMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU. WELL, IF THEY COULD COME UP FOR THE PHOTOGRAPH, BUT THERE'S A GREAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE DAR ARE MONA YOU CAN COME UP. SO PATRIOT WE'RE JUST LIKE SO FULL OF THAT PATRIOTISM AT THE CITY OF STUART. COME ON IN THE CENTER HERE, THIS WAY IN THE CENTER TO GET THAT. BECAUSE FOR JULY 4TH. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE THE DONATION THAT YOU DID TO THE CITY OF STUART AT GAZEBO PARK? YES. WE RAISED MONEY FOR A PATRIOT MARKER TO COMMEMORATE THE SACRIFICE OF PATRIOTS TO THE CITY OF STUART. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A HEART AND AND AND YOU DECORATED THE GAZEBO FOR JULY 4TH. AND I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE DECORATIONS UP. TWO FLAGS HERE TO AMERICA TO 50 FLAGS. YEAH. THE AMERICA 250. ALL THAT WAS DONE BY THE DAR FOR THE CITY OF STUART. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. CHAPTER. THANK YOU MONA. THANK YOU. THANKS. 
          THE NEXT PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE IS COMMEMORATING THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE EVERGLADES EVERGLADES AGRICULTURAL AREA RESERVOIR. THE RECIPIENT IS 
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MARK PERRY FROM FLORIDA OCEANOGRAPHIC SOCIETY. LEE, IF YOU COULD READ THE PROCLAMATION. 
          SURE. WHEREAS THE EVERGLADES IS A GLOBALLY SIGNIFICANT ECOSYSTEM THAT SUSTAINS SOUTH FLORIDA'S WATER SUPPLY, PROTECTS COASTAL COMMUNITIES, AND SUPPORTS THE HEALTH AND VITALITY OF THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER, THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND FLORIDA BAY. WHILE THE CITY OF STUART'S ECONOMY, QUALITY, QUALITY OF LIFE AND ENVIRONMENTAL HERITAGE DEPENDS UPON CLEAN AND HEALTHY WATERWAYS THAT SUPPORT TOURISM, RECREATION, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY VALUES. AND WHEREAS, HARMFUL DISCHARGES FROM LAKE OKEECHOBEE, INCLUDING THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOST SUMMER OF 2013 AND THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE CRISIS OF 2016 CAUSED SIGNIFICANT ECOLOGICAL, PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS THROUGHOUT THE SAINT LUCIE ESTUARY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS, ON AUGUST 9TH, 2016, THEN INCOMING FLORIDA SENATE PRESIDENT JOE NEGRON STOOD IN DOWNTOWN STUART AND CALLED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A RESERVOIR SOUTH OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE, GALVANIZING A BROAD COALITION OF RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, CHAMBERS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND HELPING LEAD TO THE PASSAGE OF SENATE BILL 10 IN 2017, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE POLICY, DIRECTION AND FUNDING FRAMEWORK TO ADVANCE THE EVERGLADES AGRICULTURAL AREA RESERVOIR AND THE EVERGLADES AGRICULTURAL AREA RESERVOIR IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EVERGLADES RESTORATION PROJECTS IN FLORIDA'S HISTORY. DESIGNED TO STORE EXCESS LAKE WATER, REDUCED HARMFUL DISCHARGES TO THE SAINT LUCIE AND CALOOSAHATCHEE ESTUARIES AND SEND MORE CLEAN, FRESH WATER SOUTH TO THE EVERGLADES AND FLORIDA BAY, AND ITS CONTINUED ADVANCE ADVANCEMENTS REFLECTS THE POWER OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, REGIONAL COOPERATION, AND A SHARED COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING FLORIDA'S NATURAL RESOURCES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SEAN REED, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 9TH, 2026 AS THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE EVERGLADES AGRICULTURAL AREA RESERVOIR. HEY MARK, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENTS. YEAH. OKAY. YOU UP? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I, I, YOU KNOW, GREW UP HERE SINCE 1957 WHEN SEEING A LOT OF CHANGES. AND THEN I WENT AWAY TO COLLEGE AND CAME BACK IN 78. AND THAT'S WHEN I JOINED UP WITH OCEANOGRAPHIC AND WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY, WITH ALL THE COUNTY, EVERYBODY JURISDICTIONALLY AROUND THE SAINT LUCIE ESTUARY, BECAUSE I KNEW WE HAD TO FIX THIS RIVER AND WE HAD TO STOP THOSE DISCHARGES AND, AND WORK ON THAT REAL HARD. AND 2016 WAS THAT EXEMPLARY YEAR WHEN WE HAD HUGE AMOUNTS, BILLIONS OF GALLONS COMING FROM LAKE OKEECHOBEE, NOT ONLY WITH THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE, BUT TONS OF PHOSPHORUS AND NITROGEN AND TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS. THAT MUCK THAT SETTLES OUT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE ESTUARY, WHICH WE STILL HAVE TO WORK ON TO GET OUT. BUT AT LEAST WE WE WORKED HARD TO, TO, TO TRY TO STOP THAT. AND, AND WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A NEW SCHEDULE IN. 
          20 FOR FROM THE LAKE. SO DURING NORMAL OPERATION, WE WILL NOT GET DISCHARGES, ZERO DISCHARGES TO THE SAINT LUCIE, WHICH SAVES BILLIONS OF GALLONS FROM DISCHARGING, INCLUDING THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE THAT NOWNT IN LAKE OKEECHOBEE IS NOT GOING TO COME OUR WAY, HOPEFULLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR PRIOR TO THAT, IN 2015, THE CITY ALONG WITH US AND OTHERS WERE WORKING HARD ON IT. THE GOVERNOR HAD DECLARED A AT THE TIME, 2016, AS AN EMERGENCY ORDER. BUT BACK IN 2015, THE CITY OF STUART WAS PASSING RESOLUTION HERE TO BUY THIS LAND AND GET THE. GET THE RESERVOIR STARTED SOUTH OF THE LAKE. IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO YOUR. YOUR RESOLUTION BACK IN FEBRUARY 9TH OF 2015, ALONG WITH FLORIDA OCEANOGRAPHIC AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WAS REALLY DOING IT, BUT IT WAS AT AUGUST 9TH IN IN 2016, WHEN THEN SENATOR NEGRON CAME OVER HERE TO THE FLAGLER CENTER AND SHOWED THIS MAP. AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVERGLADES AG AREA SOUTH OF THE LAKE, WE NEED ACREAGE OF LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS RESERVOIR HAPPEN. AND HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THAT INITIATIVE GOING RIGHT HERE IN STUART. AND THEN, OF COURSE, PASSED SENATE BILL TEN, WHICH WAS THE FOLLOWING SESSION OF LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND SENATE BILL TEN AUTHORIZED AND INAUGURATED AND GOT THAT EVERGLADES RESERVOIR PROJECT STARTED. IT'S FAST TRACKED NOW FOR COMPLETION ON THE IDS SCHEDULE. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN 2034. NOW IT'S FAST TRACKED TO 2029. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT FAST TRACK. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU CITY STUART IS STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE HERE. AND THEY RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF GETTING THIS WATER GOING SOUTH. AND I'M SURE ALL THE CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES, SOUTHEAST FLORIDA REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THAT WATER NEEDS TO GO 
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SOUTH TO RECHARGE THE EVERGLADES AND REHYDRATE THE BISCAYNE AQUIFER SO THEY CAN HAVE DRINKING WATER FOR THEIR FUTURE. BUT WE APPRECIATE NOT HAVING THOSE DISCHARGES COME HERE. AND YOU HAVE DONE AN EXEMPLARY JOB AS A CITY TO TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK. 
          [PRESENTATIONS]
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO SERVICE AWARDS, THE FIRST RECIPIENT WE HAVE IS JOHN MARTIN FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SPEECH, SPEECH. 20 YEARS. CONGRATS. 
          SPEECH CHIEF IS GOING TO MAKE A SPEECH. OH, SERGEANT. SERGEANT MARTIN, SERGEANT MARTIN WORKS. HE'S ASSIGNED AS A NIGHT SHIFT SUPERVISOR. 6 P.M. TO 6 A.M. HE CAN TELL YOU IN HIS OWN WORDS, BUT HE'S BEEN HERE WITH THE CITY FOR 20 YEARS. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WASN'T EXPECTING THIS. SO, YES, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE CITY OF STUART FOR 20 YEARS. I'M AN IMPORT. MY WIFE BROUGHT ME DOWN AFTER WE EXITED THE MILITARY NAVY, AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE A PART OF THE CITY FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN, AND LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS LEFT. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SERVICE AWARD THAT WE HAVE IS FOR WALTER HAYDEN, WITH TEN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR PUBLIC WORKS. GOOD JOB WALTER. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU WALTER. YEAH. DON'T BE NERVOUS, WALTER. I AIN'T GOOD AT SPEECHES. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ROSS AND MILTON FOR TAKING THE CHANCE ON ME. AND THANK Y'ALL, EVERYBODY. I LOVE WHAT I DO. AND HOPEFULLY ANOTHER TEN MORE. THE NEXT SERVICE AWARD THAT WE HAVE IS CHRISTOPHER GIUFFRIDA WITH TEN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR PUBLIC WORKS. HE'S NOT IN ATTENDANCE, BUT I STILL WANTED TO READ HIS SERVICE AWARD SO WE CAN GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THE NEXT SERVICE AWARD WE HAVE FOR THE RECIPIENT, JAMES HALL, IS TEN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHEN HE STARTED. MISTER, CAN YOU TAKE HIS CHURCH AND HIS MOTHER? YES. 
          COME ON, BEVERLY, COME ON UP. COME ON UP. DO THEY WANT YOU? CHURCH? COME ON. THEY'RE NOT COMING. OH, YEAH. EVERYBODY COME ON UP. YEAH, IT'S A PARTY. WILL THE CHURCH SAY AMEN? FAMILY. WIFE. 
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WAS NOT EXPECTING A TALK, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO MY WIFE, MY KIDS, MY AUNTS, MY DAD, MY MOM FOR COMING OUT. IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS. WENT BY FAST. STARTED OFF AS CODE ENFORCEMENT BACK IN 2016. I AM THE GRANDSON OF SERGEANT JAMES HALL. YES, THAT STARTED WITH STEWART PD. SO THAT WAS ONE REASON I DID NOT WANT TO GO INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO I TRIED TO TRY TO RUN FROM IT AS MUCH AS I COULD. BUT GOD ALWAYS HAS A DIFFERENT PLAN. SO I APPRECIATE THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE YEARS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THE NEXT SERVICE AWARD THAT WE HAVE IS PAUL SANDSTORM. SANDSTORM FROM FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE FOR TECHNOLOGY SERVICES. WELL, HE DOES STOP ALL THOSE TECH STORMS THAT WE GET. THANK YOU. 
          SANDSTORM, COME OVER THIS SIDE, PAUL. PAUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE ACTUALLY KNEW ME BEFORE I STARTED IN IT, BUT I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR NINE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, OFFICIALLY IN FULL TIME WITH IT. AND I THINK JIM MIGHT BE ONE OF THE FEW. AND HE'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE MAIN REASON WHY I'M, I'M STILL HERE BECAUSE I DID TRY PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO. I DID TRY TO DEPART AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND WHEN HE FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT, I REMEMBER HE GAVE ME A CALL AND, AND NOT SO MANY WORDS. HE SAID NO. AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED TO ME. I'M EXTREMELY BLESSED AND THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO WORK HERE AND TO BE A PART OF THIS. BEING ABLE TO GET TO SEE WHAT WHAT IT TAKES JUST FOR WATER TO COME OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THE WATER WORTH IT. I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. THAT'S INCREDIBLE. ALL THE THINGS IT TAKES FOR POLICE AND FIRE TO WORK. YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M VERY BLESSED TO BE IN A DEPARTMENT THAT GETS TO TOUCH EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY AND REALLY SEE WHAT THEY DO. AND IT'S A SHAME THAT NOT EVERYBODY GETS TO SEE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABOUT 250, 275 OF US THAT, YOU KNOW, DAY IN AND DAY OUT ARE WORKING AND KEEPS THE LIGHTS ON AND NOBODY KNOWS THE WISER. AND THAT'S HOW WE WANT IT TO BE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE WAY. AND YEAH, IT WAS CRUNCHING SOME NUMBERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I LIKE TO DO. I'VE SPENT 31% OF MY LIFE HERE. I'M 29 YEARS OLD. I STARTED ABOUT WHEN I WAS 20, AND I'VE SPENT 82% OF MY ADULT LIFE HERE. WOW. AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE. WE'VE HAD 453 EMPLOYEES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH WAS SHOCKING BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, NO CANDLE TO THE MIGHTY MILTON OF 75 YEARS OF WORKING FOR THE CITY. BUT IT NEVER FELT LIKE A SINGLE DAY. I'VE, I'VE KIND OF I'VE HAD TO GO TO WORK. I'VE HAD TO CLOCK IN. I'M OFTEN TOLD TO GO HOME BECAUSE I'M HERE TOO LATE. BUT IT'S IT'S AN EXTREME BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO WORK HERE. AND I CAN'T EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THOSE THAT I GET TO WORK WITH MY BOSS, DARREN. DARREN DUKE, HE'S MADE IT AN ABSOLUTE JOY TO BE HERE. IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK I DESCRIBED IT, IT'S YOU GUYS ARE SUCKERS FOR PAYING ME, MAN. LIKE IT'S IT'S GREAT. I LOVE BEING HERE. EVERY DAY IS A DAY I GET TO PLAY AND HAVE FUN. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH IS THE DEAL FOR. THANK YOU. BUT EVERYTHING'S JUST SO GREAT. IT'S EVERY PLACE. I THINK A FEW PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS IN THE PAST. EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THEY SAY, WE'RE A FAMILY HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES THAT MEANS THAT. AND IT'S TRUE MORE THAN HERE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, PAUL. 
          MOVING ON. YEAH, WE'RE IN BUDGET SHOP WORKSHOP NUMBER ONE. WE JUST FINISHED. PAUL. YEAH. I 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]
DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT. COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER RICH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. TO THE DELIGHT OF MANY PARENTS, TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. WOOHOO! YES, OUR CHILDREN ARE BACK ATTENDING CLASSES. I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD NOT ONLY FROM SOME MEMBERS OF OUR VOLUNTEER BOARDS, BUT FROM PARENTS AND NEIGHBORS. THE 
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SAFETY OF CHILDREN GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL IS PARAMOUNT, PARAMOUNT. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT'S TAKEN A VERY LONG TIME. IN ONE PARTICULAR INSTANCE, BECAUSE THEY'VE OPENED THE BACK GATE TO J.D. PARKER. IT'S BEEN EXACERBATED. SO I JUST HOPE WE CAN REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THESE KIDS. EVERY PARENT DROPPING OFF OR PICKING UP IS LATE, AND WE JUST KNOW IT'S JUST CRAZY HOW FAST SOME OF THESE CARS CAN GO. WE WILL BE CONSIDERING A AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM, WHICH I, I'M CONFIDENT WILL GENERATE A GREAT DEAL OF CONTROVERSY. BUT LET'S FIND A SOLUTION AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER RICH. COMMISSIONER GIOVI, THE END OF JULY, I WAS PRIVILEGED TO ATTEND THE MILESTONE EVENT AT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON RESTORATION PROJECT. YOU KNOW, YOU READ ABOUT IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SEE IT IN PERSON. IT WAS PHENOMENAL TO SEE THAT AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THAT WILL BE BASICALLY FLOODED AT SOME POINT AND CLEARING WATERS TO GO SOUTH, WHICH IS WHAT THE GOAL IS, RATHER THAN SENDING IT EAST AND WEST. AND THEN WE WENT ON LAST WEEK TO AT A LUNCHEON TO HONOR SENATOR NEGRON, WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HAVING A LOT OF THIS GO FORWARD. 
          SO AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY WHO HAS BEEN SO INSTRUMENTAL IN PUSHING US FORWARD IN MANY, MANY WAYS TO MAKE THIS PROCESS EVEN BETTER. THANK YOU, RUTH, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE, AS ALWAYS, FOR BEING HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE AND THOSE ARE ONLINE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND AS YOU KNOW, EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET OUT THERE AND VOTE. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER CLARK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COMMENT THAT I MADE WHEN WE GAVE THE AWARD TO THE DAUGHTERS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION. SO CONSTITUTION DAY IS COMING UP. THERE'S CONSTITUTION WEEK, WE HAVE CONSTITUTION DAY, AND THE LEGAL COMMUNITY DOES A LOT FOR CONSTITUTION DAY. AND I THINK ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, TEN, 11 YEARS AGO, I STARTED THE READING OF THE CONCEPT. MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHEN IT WAS. WE STARTED THE READING OF THE CONSTITUTION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT JESSICA THORPE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, I SHE'S KIND OF TAKEN OVER THE MANTLE. I USED TO ORGANIZE IT AND DO EVERYTHING. I THINK THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE THE BLAKE LIBRARY ARE HERE AT CITY HALL. I THINK IT'S THE BLAKE LIBRARY, BUT YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE OF THAT. WE DO SEND OUT THOSE WEEKLY NOTICES FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. STEWART WEEKLY NEWS. BUT CONSTITUTION WEEK IS SO IMPORTANT, AS WELL AS CONSTITUTION DAY. AND IF ANYBODY WANTS, INDIVIDUALLY OR AS AN ORGANIZATION TO READ ONE OF THE ARTICLES IN THE CONSTITUTION, PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH JESSICA THORPE AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT. I SAY BETWEEN 3 AND 5:30 P.M. ON THE EVENING, I THINK SOMETIME IN IN SEPTEMBER, MAYBE THE 20TH OR SOMETHING OF SEPTEMBER AT THE BLAKE LIBRARY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. I WANT TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD ON OUR DISCUSSION ITEM FOR HANEY CREEK TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT. I ALWAYS AM FOR THE PUBLIC. THEY'RE HERE. THEY'VE SPENT THEIR DAY WORKING. THEY COME HERE. THEY SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING WE PRESENT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. SURE. 
          COMMISSIONER CLARK, NO OBJECTION. PERFECT. I ALSO WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW I'M GOING TO BE HOSTING A TOWN HALL. IT'S THIS WEDNESDAY AT CITY HALL FROM 430 TO 730 THAT 
          [COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]
EVENING. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. 
          I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AT 3 P.M. THIS AFTERNOON, THERE WAS THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP TO WORK ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 SEVEN BUDGET. YOU COULD PROBABLY WATCH THAT MEETING ONLINE. ALSO, REMIND EVERYONE THE BUDGET IS ONLINE. OUR PRESENTATION IS ONLINE, SO PLEASE REVIEW IT IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET, PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO US SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR TAKE THOSE COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT WE CAN INFORM THE COMMISSION BETTER AS WE RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION. IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY A BALANCED BUDGET PRESENTATION, AND SO WE WERE HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMISSION THIS AFTERNOON AND WANT TO HAVE YOUR 
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INPUT. SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. ALSO, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I STUDIED METEOROLOGY, OCEANOGRAPHY, HYDROLOGY AND GEOLOGY AT THE UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE LEVEL. OF COURSE, THE NAVY TOOK ME IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF MY CAREER. AND THEN I'M HERE AND I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF THE THINGS LIKE WE LIKE WERE PRESENTED EARLIER TODAY AT THE COMMISSION MEETING, THE PROCLAMATION. WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, IT'S JUST MORE THAN 100 DAYS FOR WHOEVER'S COUNTING US, IS THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY CONCERNED. THE RIVER IS EVERYTHING. AND I WANT TO REITERATE OR REMIND EVERYBODY THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY IS ON THE JOB. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF MY DAY. IF RUTH HOLMES AND I INTERACT BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT SHE'S DOING, AND WHAT THIS COMMISSION AND CITY IS DEDICATED TO, AND 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
I'M SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED. 
          I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON 
          [COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]
NON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU'LL NOTICE WE ALSO MOVED THE LIGHTING SYSTEM HERE SO YOU CAN SEE IT. YOU GET THREE MINUTES. WHEN IT GETS TO THE YELLOW ICON YOU HAVE 30S LEFT. OKAY, I HAVE JOHN SUNDERMAN JOHN. WELCOME, JOHN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN SUNDERMAN. I LIVE AT 605 SOUTHWEST CHANNEL AVENUE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 19 YEARS AND MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON FRAZIER CREEK BETWEEN COLORADO AND US. ONE I AM ASKING THE CITY OF STUART TO TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN EVALUATING THE CURRENT CONDITION OF FRAZIER CREEK, IDENTIFYING THE CAUSE OF ITS DECLINE AND PURSUING A PRACTICAL RESTORATION PLAN. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FRAZIER CREEK IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF STUART. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT MANY YEARS AGO THE CREEK WAS A NATURAL, MEANDERING WATERWAY AND THAT AS THE SURROUNDING AREA WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS EXCAVATED INTO THE CHANNEL WE SEE TODAY. OVER NEARLY TWO DECADES, I HAVE WITNESSED A STEADY ENVIRONMENTAL DECLINE DECLINE IN THE CREEK'S CONDITION. ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS CONCERNS IS THE DEPTH AND CONDITION OF THE MUCK THAT HAS ACCUMULATED IN THE CREEK. 
          IF A PERSON WEIGHS IN THE CREEK, THEY WILL SINK DEEPLY INTO THE MUCK, AND YOU MAY NEED TO HOLD ON TO SOMETHING TO PULL FREE OR ELSE YOU'RE STUCK. THE EXTENT OF THIS ACCUMULATION RAISES SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL AND POTENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS, AND SHOULD BE EVALUATED BY A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL. THE CREEK ALSO APPEARS BECOMING SHALLOWER. 
          WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HOME, MANGROVES EXTENDED APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET FROM THE BANK. TODAY, THEY EXTEND APPROXIMATELY 25FT INTO THE CREEK, AND IN SOME AREAS, THEY REACH NEARLY HALFWAY ACROSS THE CHANNEL. BECAUSE MANGROVES ESTABLISH A TYPICALLY ESTABLISHED IN SHALLOWER WATER THREE FEET OR LESS, THIS EXPANSION SUGGESTS THAT SEDIMENT BUILDUP MAY BE CHANGING THE CREEK'S DEPTH INFLOW. THE CHANGE IS ALSO VISIBLE IN THE WILDLIFE AND PUBLIC USE OF THE CREEK. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN TARPON, SNOOK AND MANATEES WERE COMMONLY SEEN IN FRAZIER CREEK. THE WATER IS OFTEN MURKY AND APPEARS TO MOVE VERY LITTLE. EVEN THOUGH THE CREEK IS TIDAL, I SEE FAR FEWER KAYAKERS AND BOATERS USING THE CREEK IN THE PAST, LIKELY BECAUSE OF ITS CURRENT CONDITION. FRAZIER CREEK IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY, AND IF NO STEPS ARE TAKEN, WE RISK LOSING THE CREEK AS A USABLE AND HEALTHY NATURAL RESOURCE. I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY TO ASSESS THE CREEK'S SEDIMENT, WATER QUALITY, TIDAL FLOW, ECOLOGICAL CONDITIONS AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS. I ALSO ASK THE CITY TO IDENTIFY AND PURSUE AVAILABLE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING POTENTIAL GRANTS, THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION OR OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL RESTORATION PROGRAMS. FINALLY, WITH THE NEW MOTEL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING ALONG FRAZIER CREEK, I HOPE YOU ALL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, THAT THESE MOTELS DO NOT FURTHER HARM FRAZIER CREEK. I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING AND RESTORING FRAZIER CREEK BEFORE THE DAMAGE BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT AND COSTLY TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, 
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JOHN. NEXT, I HAVE GWENDOLYN HALL BRINKLEY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS GWENDOLYN HALL BRINKLEY, AND I AM SECRETARY OF HERITAGE AND OPPORTUNITY ALLIANCE. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO PLACE AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC PRESERVATION ISSUE CONCERNING EAST STEWART INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. EAST STEWART IS CURRENTLY COMPLETING THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES PROCESS. AS WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING IMPORTANT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NATIONAL REGISTRY RECOGNITION AND LOCAL PROTECTION. WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY FLORIDA'S DIVISION OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES THAT THE CITY OF STEWART IS NOT PRESENTLY A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR CLG UNDER THE FEDERAL STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM. THE NATIONAL REGISTRY RECOGNIZES HISTORIC, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PLACES, BUT NATIONAL REGISTER LISTINGS BY ITSELF DOES NOT CREATE COMPREHENSIVE LOCAL PRESERVATION SYSTEM THAT MANY RESIDENTS MAY ASSUME IT DOES. 
          FLORIDA'S CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK THROUGH WHICH MUNICIPALITIES ADOPT A QUALIFYING HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, ESTABLISH A QUALIFIED PRESERVATION COMMISSION, RECEIVE STATE AND FEDERAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, PARTICIPATE FORMALLY IN PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES, AND BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR PRESERVATION FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR EAST STEWART. WE ARE DOCUMENTING A COMMUNITY THAT HISTORICALLY CONTAINED BLACK BUSINESSES, CHURCHES, STEWARD TRAINING, SCHOOL, CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVITY, HISTORIC HOMES, AND GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES WHO BUILT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. RECOGNITION OF THAT HISTORY IS IMPORTANT, BUT RECOGNITION ALONE, WITHOUT A LONG TERM LOCAL PRESERVATION STRATEGY, LEAVES AN IMPORTANT QUESTION UNANSWERED. WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE RESOURCES AFTER NATIONAL REGISTER DESTINATION, HERITAGE AND OPPORTUNITY ALLIANCE IS THEREFORE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE CITY COMMISSIONERS TO DIRECT STAFF TO INVESTIGATE THE FEASIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, COST, BENEFITS AND PROCESS FOR THE CITY OF STEWART TO BECOME A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COMMISSIONER TONIGHT TO IMPOSE RESTRICTION ON PROPERTY OWNERS. WE'RE ASKING FOR A PROFESSIONAL EVALUATION OF WHETHER STEWART SHOULD ESTABLISH A PRESERVATION PROGRAM THAT PROTECTS PROPERTY RIGHTS. NOW PLEASE FINISH. THREE MINUTES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. CANDACE CALLAHAN. JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS JOHN'S COMMENT FIRST, AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON TO MISS HALL. SO I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FRAZIER CREEK. POPPLETON CREEK. 
          I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GRANT THAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY APPLIED FOR, BUT THAT THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. CORRECT. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS PRIOR. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FROM THE DAIS, BUT NOT MUCH HAS HAPPENED. IF ANYTHING, IF ANYTHING, IT'S GETTING WORSE. I TOOK MY BOAT OUT THIS WEEKEND THROUGH KRUGER CREEK. I HAD MENTIONED IN THE PAST COUPLE MAYBE WEEKS, WHERE I MENTIONED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHERE A NEIGHBOR HAD MENTIONED THEY CAN'T NAVIGATE THROUGH THERE AS WELL. AND IT WAS TRUE. YOU CAN BARELY FIT A BOAT THROUGH KRUGER CREEK NAVIGATING UNDER THE KRUGER BRIDGE. SO I JUST, I THINK MAYBE MORE INITIATIVE NEEDS DONE FROM THE CITY, IN MY OPINION, TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. IF IT'S A TIDAL FLOW ISSUE, IF IT'S TRIMMING OF THE MANGROVES, BUT IT JUST FURTHER DETERIORATES FOR THESE HOMEOWNERS. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN FURTHER LOOK INTO TO ADDRESS THESE COMMENTS, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO GET SOMETHING MOVING. SO I CAN SAY I ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING, AT LEAST IN FOUR YEARS OF BEING HERE. AND THEN MOVING ON TO MISS HALL'S COMMENT AS WELL. IF THE CITY COULD LOOK INTO THAT, AND JUST THE BACKSTORY ON WHY IT WAS INITIATED, WHAT THE PROS AND 
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THE CONS ARE AND THE BENEFITS ARE. AND FOLLOW UP WITH MISS HALL ON HER COMMENTS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS, CANDACE CALLAHAN. WELCOME, CANDACE. HI. OKAY. 
          CANDACE CALLAHAN, FOR THE RECORD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF STEWART MAIN STREET, I HAVE A LOT TO A LOT OF GOOD NEWS TO SHARE. SO RECENTLY, WE WERE PROUD TO HELP THE CITY RECEIVE THE DESIGNATION FOR THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, PUTTING THE DISTRICT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES RIGHT ALONGSIDE OUR FRIENDS IN EAST STEWART. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM AS WELL. THIS ALLOWS US NOT JUST MAIN STREET, BUT THE CITY FOR BETTER POSITIONING. WHEN WE GO AFTER NATIONAL AND FEDERAL GRANTS FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, WE HAVE APPLIED. AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT, WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND APPLIED FOR THE OFFICIAL HISTORIC MARKER FOR THE DISTRICT, HOPING TO HAVE AN ANSWER SOON ON THAT. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN AWARDED RECENTLY A $50,000 GRANT TO HELP FURTHER PROTECT OUR DOWNTOWN CHARM BY HELPING THE CITY OF STEWART DEVELOP DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL AND ALL OF THAT AND JODI'S DEPARTMENT. BUT THIS IS JUST GETTING THE BALL ROLLING. 
          WE HAVE APPLIED AGAIN FOR THE STATE SMALL MATCHING CATEGORIES TO HELP ENHANCE AND DEVELOP A USER FRIENDLY WALKING ART AND HISTORY TOUR FOR THE DISTRICT. A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE RECEIVED RECOGNITION FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, AWARDING US IN FOUR CATEGORIES AMONG 70 OTHER MAIN STREET PROGRAMS ACROSS THE STATE. WE WON AWARDS IN THE CATEGORY OF VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR, BUSINESS OF THE YEAR, BOARD MEMBER OF THE YEAR AND TELLING MAIN STREET STORY. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR SAVINGS STEWART EVENT WAS RECOGNIZED FOR THAT EVENT OR THAT CATEGORY. 
          WE APPLIED FOR THE GREAT AMERICAN MAIN STREET AWARD AND AWAITING THEIR DECISION THIS WEEK. WE ARE LONG OVERDUE FOR THIS ALMOST 40 YEARS OF PROVEN TRANSFORMATION, NATIONAL RECOGNITION AND TOURISM ATTRACTION, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR RESILIENT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WITH YOU FINE FOLKS, THE CITY OF STEWART. WE WILL BEGIN WORK ON OUR ART MURAL PROJECT FOR FLAGLER PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT INITIATIVE. AND I WILL REMIND THE THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS THE SLOWEST SEASON FOR OUR DOWNTOWN. AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER ARE NOT EASY FOR THESE BUSINESS OWNERS AS COST OF GOODS ARE RISING AND THE COST OF BUSINESS OVERALL IS RISING. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN. IF WE START LOSING OUR CHARM, IF WE START LOSING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, WE WILL START LOSING OUR CHARM AND OUR DOWNTOWN. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE HOSTING WEEKLY AND MONTHLY EVENTS LIKE MARKET ON MAIN ROCK AND RIVERWALK AND OUR SUMMER CAR SHOW SERIES TO HELP BOOST FOOT TRAFFIC. BUT IT DOES TAKE ALL OF US. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP. AND TO FOLLOW UP ON MISS HALL'S COMMENT, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE ABOUT THE CLG AND THE STEPS THAT WE'RE ALL TAKING AS MAIN STREET AND THE CRA ARE HELPING TO GET US TO THAT POINT, SO I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT IF NEEDED AND OFFER OUR SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CANDACE. NEXT, I HAVE DAVID COLEMAN. WELCOME, DAVE. HEY. 
          HELLO, EVERYBODY. JUST A COUPLE QUICK THINGS. ONE, WHO CUTS THE GRASS IN THE CITY OF STEWART FOR CITY PROPERTY. IS IT A SUBCONTRACTOR? CUZ I SAW A GENTLEMAN CUTTING THE GRASS OVER AT THE POLICE STATION. THEY WEREN'T WEARING ANY CITY UNIFORMS, SO IT'S A SUBCONTRACTED OUT. I THINK THEY IF IT IS, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD LOOK AT AND SEE IF WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY THERE AND BRING IN. WE HAVE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. GOT A COUPLE OF MOWERS FOR THEM TO CUT THE PROPERTY. THAT'S ONE THING. THE OTHER THING IS CITY OF STEWART FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT THREE FIREMEN ARE REQUESTED FOR THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. THREE, THE REAL NUMBER SHOULD BE FIVE. BUT IF WE COULD GET THREE, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER. NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE PUSH BACK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY SAY, OH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY SIT ON COUCHES AND BEAUTIFUL TVS AND THIS. BUT WHO ARE THEY CALLING WHEN THEY HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR A STROKE OR THEY HAVE A BAD LACERATION, THEY BREAK THEIR HIP. CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I TOLD I, I DEAL WITH PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, AND I CONSTANTLY BUTT HEADS WITH THEM. AND I SAY, WHY DON'T YOU CALL ANIMAL CONTROL? DON'T CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IF YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM, DON'T CALL IT. BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, EVERYBODY SHOULD REALLY PUT INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION ON GETTING THESE THREE NEW HIRES. AND IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE EVEN BUMPING UP, MAYBE IN A FUTURE BUDGET, MAYBE ANOTHER TWO, BECAUSE THEY NEED IT. I MEAN, GROWTH IS GROWING HERE. WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT, 19,000 PLUS PEOPLE HERE AND HOW MANY FIREMEN YOU HAVE ON, ON, ON PER SHIFT, PER PER, PER HOUSE. AND THE OTHER THING IS I SAW THE BLUE LIGHTS ON THEIR TRUCKS. I THINK THEY LOOK 
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FANTASTIC. AND YOU CAN SEE THEM A MILE AWAY. SO THAT WAS A GREAT THING. I HOPE THEY'RE HAPPY ABOUT IT. BUT PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT LEAST PASSING THE BUDGET ON THREE MORE FIREMEN FOR THEM, BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED IT ALSO TOO. I WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY AND YOU FOR COMING OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND WALKING WITH A WONDERFUL RUTH OVER HERE TO SEE OUR DISASTER, NOT JUST FRAZIER CREEK ALONG POPLAR CREEK AND THE ONE THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. THANKS, DAVE. AND AS FAR AS THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST FISCAL YEAR. THEY GOT THREE THIS YEAR. THE CHIEFS ASKING FOR THREE MORE. HIS COMMENTS WERE HE WAS TRYING TO BE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE TOWARDS THE TAXPAYERS AND EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY GET THERE AND STUFF. 
          IF WE'RE DOING THREE A YEAR UNTIL WE ACHIEVE THE LIFE, SAFETY AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT HE EXPECTS FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, DAVE. I HAVE NO 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR]
FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU MARY. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR? IS THIS IN REGARDS TO THIS, DID YOU HAVE A OKAY. MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT? YES, I DID. I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. I WANTED TO REMOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          SIX AND SEVEN. PUT THEM? YES. AND PUT THEM INTO THE NORMAL AGENDA. DID YOU WANT THEM BEFORE? COFFEE RUSH OR AFTER OR BEFORE COFFEE RUSH? IT'S JUST THAT I'D LIKE I I'M I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE THE THE RESIDENTS A CHANCE TO LOOK AND HEAR WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE THAT WE'RE APPROVING. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THEM DOWN. SO YEAH, THEY COULD GO BEFORE COFFEE RUSH. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE LONG, BUT AGAIN, I'D JUST LIKE THEM TO HEAR WHAT THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE. THANK YOU. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND PULLING ITEM NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, AND HAVING THOSE ITEMS HEARD BEFORE THE REGULAR ACTION ITEMS. AND I WILL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLARK. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR PULLING AGENDA ITEM SIX AND SEVEN FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIOVI. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MAYOR REED. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE SECOND READING REGARDING COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, C P OR. OH, SORRY. SORRY. CYBERSECURITY. YEP. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAYOR. EXCUSE ME. CAN WE DO THE CONSENT ITEMS? NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN. YEAH. YES. YEAH, I MESSED UP. SO MOVING ON FOR 
          [6. CYBERSECURITY GRANT PROGRAM (RC): RESOLUTION No. 55-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING SUBMITTAL OF A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES FLORIDA DIGITAL SERVICES CYBERSECURITY PROGRAM GRANT TO CONTINUE ENHANCING AND SUPPORTING THE CITY’S CYBERSECURITY FRAMEWORK, TO MITIGATE RISK, AND TO PROTECT INFRASTRUCTURE; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A GRANT AGREEMENT, IF AWARDED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
AGENDA ITEM SIX, THE CYBERSECURITY GRANT PROGRAM. RESOLUTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 55-2 THOUSAND 26. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING SUBMITTAL OF A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES, FLORIDA DIGITAL SERVICES CYBERSECURITY PROGRAM GRANT TO CONTINUE ENHANCING AND SUPPORTING THE CITY'S CYBERSECURITY FRAMEWORK TO MITIGATE RISK AND TO PROTECT INFRASTRUCTURE. AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A GRANT AGREEMENT IF AWARDED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHTS ON? YES. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF, DARREN, THIS IS YOUR DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE IF YOU COULD JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THIS GRANT. 
          THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY CAN'T. YES, IT'S EXEMPTED FROM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. BUT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT IN SHADE. OKAY. WHICH IS RIGHT. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. WERE YOU ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'VE BEEN AWARDED OR IN PREVIOUS YEARS? I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. IT'S IT'S SOMEWHERE HISTORICALLY, SOMEWHERE IN THE REGION OF 120 TO $170,000 IN PRODUCTS. THEY CALL IT CAPABILITIES, BUT IT'S SOFTWARE THAT THE STATE GRANTS US FOR USE OF A 12 MONTH PERIOD. 
          AND THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH YEAR WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN THIS GRANT. AND I WILL SAY, I YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH ON THIS. IT'S A VERY GOOD PROGRAM. IT'S LEVELED US UP QUITE SUBSTANTIALLY ON ON OUR FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE, IT'S ABOUT $130,000 A YEAR IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING. SO WE'VE BEEN AWARDED IT EVERY YEAR SINCE WE'VE STARTED APPLYING SO FAR. THIS YEAR IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IN, IN, IN THE ACTUAL LAW, BECAUSE THEY REWRITE IT EVERY YEAR, THIS YEAR, THEY'VE ACTUALLY STIPULATED THAT IT HAS TO TARGET OR THEY SHOULD TARGET PRIORITY WISE RURAL COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES. AND WE ARE 
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NOT THAT. SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE MIGHT NOT GET FULLY ACROSS THE FINISH LINE LIKE WE HAVE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FINGERS CROSSED IF YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T PUT IN, WE WE MIGHT BE OKAY. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THEY'VE KIND OF STIPULATED SOME RULES WHERE WE MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST FALL OFF THE EDGE OF IT. OH, OKAY. NO WAY WE CAN PIGGYBACK AGAINST SOME OTHER ENTITY TO PUT IN FOR THIS. NO, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE. IT'S ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN THE LAW ABOUT WHAT A RURAL MUNICIPALITY IS. IT'S REALLY A RURAL COUNTY, AND THE MUNICIPALITY HAS TO BE IN A RURAL COUNTY OR NEXT TO A RURAL COUNTY OR TWO. AND IT BASED ON MY LOOKING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE QUALIFY FULLY. BUT YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS? TOUCH WOOD WE PUT IN FOR IT, WE GET IT OR WE DON'T. IF WE GET IT. YES. AND IF NOT, I STILL WANT TO THANK THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC PROGRAM. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANTED EVERYONE IN THE THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WAS. AND I, I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT WE COULDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT ALL OF IT, BUT JUST THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY IS GREAT. THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. HAVE A QUESTION, DARREN. DOES THE CITY APPLY ON BEHALF OF ITSELF OR DOES IT GO TO A GRANT WRITER, THIS ONE OURSELVES BECAUSE IT'S A ZERO COST GRANT. WE WE GET CAPABILITIES FROM THE STATE. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING THEY'RE NOT GIVING US MONEY AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING MONEY IN. AND NOW IF YOU'RE AWARDED THIS GRANT, YOUR DEPARTMENT. WILL THAT SHOW UP IN OUR BUDGET TABLE? OKAY. WILL IT SHOW. IT JUST WON'T BE LINE ITEMED OUT OBVIOUSLY. RIGHT. OR IS I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S JUST ITSELF. SO IT WOULD BE IN THAT I WOULD PRESUME AS A LINE ITEM OF BUDGETS. OKAY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY TOWARDS THE END OF A BUDGET YEAR, THEY TELL US WHAT THE WHAT THE COST WAS, AND THEN WE SEND THAT TO FINANCE. AND I HAVE THE FINANCE TO DO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SO MUCH, SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN FOR AGENDA ITEM SIX. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 55 2026 FOR THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART TO AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES GRANT FOR CYBER SECURITY. SECOND, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOB AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 55, 2026, AGENDA ITEM SIX. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL. MAYOR REED. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. 
          [7. LETTER TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY (RC): RESOLUTION No. 57-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY’S CO-SIGNING ON A LETTER REQUESTING THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY EVALUATE WHETHER THE STATE'S DECISION TO DECLINE ADOPTION OF WATER QUALITY CRITERIA FOR CYANOTOXINS COMPLIES WITH THE TRIENNIAL REVIEW PROCESS UNDER 40 C.F.R. s. 131.20(a) AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
COMMISSIONER. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, LETTER TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. LEE, IF YOU COULD READ THE RESOLUTION. 
          RESOLUTION NUMBER 57-2026. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY'S COSIGNING ON A LETTER REQUESTING THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY EVALUATE WHETHER THE STATE'S DECISION TO DECLINE ADOPTION OF WATER QUALITY CRITERIA FOR CYANOTOXINS COMPLIES WITH THE TRIENNIAL REVIEW PROCESS UNDER 40 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SECTION ONE, 31.20, SUBSECTION A, AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. 
          YOU HAD QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN US HAVING THIS, AND CERTAINLY THE COMMISSION HOPEFULLY WILL VOTE TO SIGN IT. 
          THANK YOU. SO I'D MAKE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 57, 2026 RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZE THE CITY'S COSIGNING ON A LETTER REQUESTING THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY EVALUATE WHETHER THE STATE'S DECISION TO DECLINE AN ADOPTION OF WATER QUALITY CRITERIA FOR CYTOTOXIC COMPLIES WITH THE TRIENNIAL REVIEW PROCESS UNDER THE 40 CFR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 57 2026 BY COMMISSIONER JOB AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION, RUTH. SO THIS LETTER IS BEING SENT TO THE EPA TO GET. THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF. I'M ASSUMING THE STATE CHANGED SOMETHING CORRECT? NO. AND THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS BROUGHT TO THE EPA'S ATTENTION. SO WHAT THE EPA DOES UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT IS, AFTER SO MANY YEARS, AN EVOLUTION OF SCIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND DISCOVERY OF DIFFERENT CONTAMINANTS IN OUR SURFACE WATERS, THEY LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR GUIDANCE TO THE STATES TO ADOPT OR CHANGE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS. AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, 
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WHEN MARK PERRY WAS WAS HERE EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE IN 2013, 2016, PEOPLE DON'T MENTION 2018, BUT 2018 WAS ANOTHER BAD YEAR. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RELEASES FROM THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE IS A TOXIN THAT, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF TOXIN, CAN BE VERY HARMFUL NOT JUST TO MARINE LIFE, BUT IT CAN BE VERY HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH. AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE ALL HEARD IN THE 2018 TIME PERIOD WHEN THERE WERE VETERINARIANS THAT WERE REPORTING ON DIFFERENT INSTANCES OF, OF PETS BEING HARMED BY GETTING GETTING IN THE BLUE GREEN ALGAE FILLED WATER OR EATING THE FISH OR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WITH THE EPA DID IS THEY ISSUED GUIDANCE, THEY ISSUED A RECOMMENDATION TO THE STATES ABOUT CERTAIN CYANOTOXIN STANDARDS THAT SHOULD BE ADOPTED IN THE STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE INCREASING TEMPERATURES AND THE WATER IS GETTING HOTTER AND HOTTER, AND BLUE GREEN ALGAE OUTBREAKS ARE HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY. THEY DECLINED TO ADOPT THOSE STANDARDS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ADOPT THEM. AND THEY THEY DECLINED TO DO SO. AND INSTEAD, AND I, I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU SAY THEY THE D THE DEP DECLINED THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THAT WOULD BE THEIR BOARD, I GUESS THAT WAS MADE UP ON THE DEP BOARD. THAT WOULD DECLINE IT. WELL, THE DEP DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN BOARD, BUT THEY DO HAVE VARIOUS PUBLICLY OR BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF IF IT'S REALLY IF YOU CAN REALLY CHARACTERIZE IT LIKE THAT. THEY DO HAVE THEY DO HAVE COMMITTEES AND, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA. AND THEY DECIDED AND, YOU KNOW, WITH FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT THE CYANOTOXIN DID NOT NEED A STANDALONE WATER QUALITY CRITERIA OR STANDARD. WELL, LIKE, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY AT 417 FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TALKING ABOUT BLUE GREEN ALGAE. RIGHT. AND IT SAYS RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ARE ADVISED TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING PRECAUTIONS DO NOT DRINK, SWIM, WADE, USE PERSONAL WATERCRAFT, OR COME INTO CONTACT WITH WATERS WHERE THERE IS VISIBLE BLOOM. WASH YOUR SKIN, KEEP PETS LIVESTOCK AWAY. DO NOT COOK OR CLEAN DISHES WITH WATER CONTAMINATED EATING FILLETS. DO NOT EAT SHELLFISH. I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. IT'S JUST IT'S CRAZY FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS TO EVEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. WELL, THE STATE BELIEVES THAT CHLOROPHYL A CAN BE A SUFFICIENT INDICATOR OF THE EXISTENCE OF TOXINS IN THE IN THE SURFACE WATERS AND IN THE RIVER AND THE ESTUARY. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE EPA TO DO IS TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THAT. AND IS THAT SUFFICIENT? AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE FOLKS AT EPA THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH NEVER STOPS TO SOURCE WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY SEND OUT THESE NOTIFICATIONS EVERY SINGLE MONTH OR EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, DEPENDING ON LOCATION. AND THEY ALL SAY THE SAME THING AND NOBODY SAYS, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CITY OF STUART IS SO. GEOGRAPHICALLY SMART TO BE EVEN CONSIDERING A LETTER LIKE THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT IT'S DOING IS BECAUSE IF IN FACT, IF IN FACT THE DISCHARGES. DISPOSAL OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE WATER FOR DRAINAGE INTO THE RIVER AND ESTUARY CONTAINS MICROCYSTIN AND CYANOTOXINS, OF WHICH THERE'S A WATER QUALITY STANDARD, THEN YOU HAVE A CLEAR, I SHOULD SAY, ARGUABLY YOU. YOU COULD HAVE A VIOLATION OF WATER QUALITY STANDARDS BY THOSE DISCHARGES, BY THE DISPOSAL OF WATER, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE EPA RESPONDS WITH. WELL, IF IF IF STANDARDS WERE EVER ADOPTED FOR THAT. SO THERE WOULD BE A VERY, VERY STRONG CASE THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCHARGES. IF THERE'S EVER ANY INDICATION OF BLUE GREEN ALGAE IN THE WATER. OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE LETTER IN AND OF ITSELF. IT MAY IT MAY GO TO THE SAME PLACE. THE PETITION FOR RULEMAKING WENT AND SOMEBODY'S INBOX OR 
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SOMEBODY COULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT. BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG, BIG ISSUE. IT'S A BIG ISSUE POLITICALLY. SO. YES. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY BEEN ANY LETTERS THAT WE'VE AUTHORIZED WHERE YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE BACK ON ANY OF THEM? WELL, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RESPONSE BACK, OR I WOULD SAY EVERY SINGLE ONE. YEAH. SO EVERY LETTER WE SEND OUT, WE DON'T GET A RESPONSE BACK. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. NOW, I WILL SAY THIS. THE THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE SENT TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN PURSUANT TO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS THAT THEY'VE THAT THEY'VE NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO WRITE US, TO WRITE US A LETTER OR TO TO COMMENT ON SOME ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY THERE'S BEEN NO RESPONSE BACK, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE US A RESPONSE, BUT IT'S ALL PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD. SO THAT GOING FORWARD, THE CITY IS THE CITY IS KNOWN TO HAVE STATED ITS POSITION ON THOSE ACTIVITIES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS OUR LETTERS HAVE BECOME PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD, IF THERE'S EVER A CHALLENGE IN THE FUTURE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE THERE. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY BENEFIT IF IT WAS SENT TO LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS THE EPA DEPARTMENT? I MEAN, SHOULD WE BE SENDING IT TO EVERYBODY AT THIS POINT? BECAUSE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SET POLICY FOR THIS STUFF, IF THEY'RE JUST IGNORING US, I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT THAT THAT COULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE MAYBE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER. AND THEN MAYBE EACH OF YOU, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, ABOUT WHO IT SHOULD BE SENT TO. RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US MORE. MAYBE IF WE'RE SENDING IT TO STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FEDERAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEY HAVE MORE JURISDICTION THAN WE DO AT THE CITY OF STUART BECAUSE THEY OVERSEE THE EPA. WE DON'T. BUT I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THOSE MEETINGS THEN GO FROM THERE. 
          COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT WAS ON? YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE LETTER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE TEN YEARS AGO, IF SENATOR NEGRON HAD NOT PUSHED FORWARD AND PUSHED AHEAD, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING DONE TODAY FOR THE EVERGLADES. SO THE REALITY IS WE'RE AT LEAST PUSHING FORWARD. WE'RE WE'RE STATING WHAT WE WANT AND WE'RE CONSISTENT. WE SEND OUT LOTS OF LETTERS. EVENTUALLY SOMEONE IS GOING TO LISTEN TO THOSE. AND COLLECTIVELY THEY ARE ON FILE AND PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE THERE. SO THANK YOU, RUTH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, RUTH, FOR EVERYTHING. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? MARY, IF YOU COULD DO THE ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          YES. MAYOR REED. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ORDINANCE SECOND READING. 
          COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, CPD AMENDMENT. AND IT IS QUASI JUDICIAL. SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PULL OUT YOUR YELLOW CARDS. IF YOU COULD READ IT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD. COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD PUD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT, WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA PROVIDING FOR AMEND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS. A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MASTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. JODY? MAYOR, I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE YET, SO I WAS WONDERING IF DO YOU WANT US TO DO THEY PLAN ON THEY PLAN ON COMING. I DID SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT AND WITH PUBLIX THIS MORNING AND THEY WERE PLANNING ON ATTENDING BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO RESPOND TO. IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD WE POSTPONE UNTIL THE APPLICANT GETS HERE AND MOVE ON TO THE. 
          YEAH, WE'LL MOVE ON. HANEY CREEK, IS THERE ANYTHING I HAVE TO DO FROM MY POSITION THEN? LEE, JUST AT LEAST GET A CONSENSUS OR A MOTION TO SWAP, I GUESS AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE. I AGREE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MOVE IT UNTIL THE APPLICANT COMES AND WE CAN GO 
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TO THE DISCUSSION. OH, WE NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO AFTER THE HANEY CREEK DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. SO IT'LL BE AFTER NUMBER NINE. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. CAN WE HAVE A YES, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOB TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM EIGHT AND MOVE IT AFTER AGENDA ITEM NINE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. CLERK. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY, COULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR REED YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. COMMISSIONER CLARK, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SET THE TIME? 530 OR 535? FIVE MINUTE BREAK, FIVE MINUTE. OKAY, SO WE'LL RECONVENE AT 530. WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING AT 5:34 P.M. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IF WE'RE GOING TO SWAP THE COFFEE RUSH AND HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM AGENDA ITEMS AGAIN. SO I'M JUST HERE TO LISTEN TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ON WHAT THEY WANT. I THINK IT'S YOUR DECISION, MR. MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM EITHER WAY. I JUST I THINK WHEN WE ARE CONSTANTLY GOING BACK AND FORTH, LIKE WE'RE TWISTING PEOPLE UP, NOT ONLY IN THE PUBLIC, THE DELIBERATIONS ARE GOING TO GO ON. I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE WITH ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPERS, THEY NEED TO BE FIRST. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN. TO SWAP AGENDA ITEM EIGHT NINE MOTION THAT. WE GO BACK TO THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED ORDER. YOU'LL SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AS WELL. PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE GO BACK TO THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED. NEXT WE TAKE AGENDA ITEM EIGHT. NEXT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. IS THAT CLEAR? LEE. YEAH THAT'S FINE. ARE THE APPLICANTS READY IF WE SWAP THIS AGENDA ITEM? I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A NOD OR. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ONE PROBLEM WE DON'T HAVE JODY. SO OKAY. I'LL STILL I'LL RECALL THE MOTION. LIKE RESTATE IT. I'LL RESTATE IT. YEAH. OKAY. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT TO WAIT FOR JODY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. JUST FLYING DOWN HERE. I'LL GO AHEAD 
          [8. COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE - PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD CPUD AMENDMENT (QUASI-JUDICIAL) (RC): ORDINANCE No. 2555-2026; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE III OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD); PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE III OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD CPUD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA; PROVIDING FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, AND MASTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 1501 N.W. FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT “A”; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
AND READ THE AGENDA ITEM AGAIN. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD. COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS CPD, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIC. PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, CPD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT, WITH TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA PROVIDING FOR AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS. A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MASTER SITE PLAN. APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN ATTACHED EXHIBIT A, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. HEY LEE, I HAVE TO JUST THERE WAS A MOTION TO A MOTION. I WAS JUST ABOUT TO DO A POINT OF ORDER. OH, I THOUGHT YOU WEREN'T SORRY. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RICH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO SWAP AGENDA ITEM EIGHT BACK BEFORE AGENDA ITEM NINE. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MARY, ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THE ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES. MAYOR REED. YES. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, THE COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE PUBLIX, BAKER ROAD, CPD AMENDMENT. AND JUST A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU COULD PULL OUT YOUR YELLOW CARD. LEE, IS THIS WHERE YOU HAVE TO READ THE AGENDA ITEM BACK INTO THE RECORD BECAUSE IT'S QUASI JUDICIAL? PROBABLY, YEAH. JUST TO BE SAFE. I'LL READ IT AGAIN. 
          SORRY, SORRY. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD. 
          COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS CPD, PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, CPD TO ACCOMMODATE A 635 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH AT CORNERSTONE CENTER CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT, WITH 
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TWO DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA PROVIDING FOR AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS. A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND MASTER SITE PLAN. APPROVAL FOR A PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY, BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBIT A PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU. LEE. DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? COMMISSIONER RICH I DO NOT, COMMISSIONER, I DO NOT COMMISSIONER CLARK, I'VE DONE. I'M HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND. I'M. 
          I'M GOING TO SAY THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I PROBABLY GOT SOME EMAILS. I CAN'T RECALL ANY SPECIFICALLY, AND I HAD THE SIMILAR COMMENTS AT THE FIRST ORDINANCE READING JUST THIS TIME. I DID POST IT ON FACEBOOK AGAIN, BUT COMMENTS ARE TURNED OFF, SO IF WE GET ANY COMMENTS UP HERE, IT'LL COME AS A BOARD AS A WHOLE. SO THEN YOU GUYS WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR FACEBOOK COMMENTS OUT OF RESPECT TO YOU GUYS. LEE, IF YOU COULD PLACE ANY POTENTIAL WITNESSES UNDER OATH. WELL, POTENTIAL WITNESSES FOR THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF, PLEASE STAND. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. DO YOU AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IN THIS HEARING WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? ALRIGHT, YOU MAY BE SEATED AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE SPIEL, LIKE I NORMALLY DO ON THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS, ANY QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, THE CITY COMMISSION STEPS OUT OF ITS LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE AND INTO A JUDICIAL, JUDICIAL, JUDICIAL CAPACITY. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL BE MAKING A DETERMINATION BY APPLYING EXISTING LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS TO THE FACTS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AND TESTIMONY NEEDS TO BE UNDER OATH. THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED PRIOR TO THIS HEARING, WHICH THEY HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, LEE. NOW, WILL THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PLEASE PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA ITEM, INCLUDING THE LOCATION, SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, CURRENT ZONING, ZONING REQUESTED, AND LIST THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO DEVIATE FROM THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, IF ANY. THANK YOU. JODY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JODY COOGLER, THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF STUART. TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING AGENDA NUMBER EIGHT FOR A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE CORNERSTONE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD, KPD. A PETITION TO DEVELOP A COFFEE RUSH FAST FOOD CONVENIENCE RESTAURANT WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WITHIN THE UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF THE LAND, WHICH IS KNOWN AS PHASE THREE OF THE PUBLIX AT BAKER KPD. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1501 NORTHWEST FEDERAL HIGHWAY. PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED WITHIN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 11.02.00 ON JUNE 22ND, 2026, THE APPLICANT MAILED NOTICES TO ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE REQUESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DATE AND TIME OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING. ADDITIONALLY, TWO SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY LETTERS OR EMAILS FOR PROPONENT OR OPPOSITION. THE 7.79 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND NORTH WEST BAKER ROAD, AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS A COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THE. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST ARE DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL, AND A PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS THE OVERALL AREA WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED. YOU CAN SEE IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THE RED LINES ARE, AND I'LL JUST POINT TO IT ON MY MAP RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS THE PROPOSED COFFEE RUSH. THE ADJACENT USE AND ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. AND THIS IS THE OVERALL PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE SITE INCLUDES A 635 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES FOR SERVING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND A WALK UP PEDESTRIAN WINDOW WITH AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA TO PROPOSE. COFFEE RUSH BUILDING IS NOT A TEMPORARY OR MODULAR BUILDING, BUT RATHER A CONCRETE MASONRY UNIT, WHICH IS THE SAME AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE WALMART LOCATION. AND THE PROPOSED PARKING REQUIRES ONE SPACE PER EMPLOYEE AT THE LARGEST SHIFT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY FOUR EMPLOYEES AND ONE SPACE PER 100FT■!S OF SERVICE. AREA OF 325FT■!S IS MET ON SITE, DEPICTED ON THE FUTURE PHASE, WHICH IS GENERALLY THE 
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FORMAL ORIGINALLY PHASE THREE AREA WITHIN THE PROPOSED NEW EIGHT PARKING SPACES. AS THE. 
          AND ALSO A PROPOSED LOADING ZONE IS LOCATED ON SITE. THE FIRE ACCESS SHOWS THE FIRE TRUCK ACCESS RIGHT FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY. WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICES. CONNECTIONS ARE ALREADY PROVIDED TO THE SITE AND ARE LOCATED AT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE COFFEE RUSH STORE LOCATION. WERE YOU. AN APPROVAL OF THE CONNECTIONS BY MARTIN COUNTY IS PENDING. PER THE KPD UTILITY PLAN AMENDMENT. THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN OVERALL SITE WHERE THE WHERE THE YELLOW STAR IS. THAT IS THE PHASE THREE, AND THIS IS THE LAST PHASE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING PLAN INCLUDES FIVE GUMBO LIMBO TREES, FOUR HOLLY TREES, SIX CRAPE MYRTLES, TWO SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS AND EIGHT SABAL PALMS. THE PALM. THE PLAN ALSO PROPOSES THE RELOCATION OF SIX EXISTING PALMETTO TREES ON SITE AND ONE EXISTING QUEEN PALM. THE PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION IS TO AMEND THE FUTURE PUBLIX AT BAKER ROAD COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 21042104-02 TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 690 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE RUSH DRIVE THROUGH ON THE REMAINING UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF THE 7.79 ACRES. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A SMALL BUILDING WITH TWO DRIVE THRU LANES, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND A PEDESTRIAN SERVICE WINDOW AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE. TO FACILITATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FIVE WAIVERS. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IN 2007 INCLUDED IN PHASE THREE, WHICH WAS APPROVED FOR A 3400 SQUARE FOOT BANK BUILDING. WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT. THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT ELEMENTS INCORPORATE OVERHANGS, PEAKED ROOFS, DISPLAY WINDOWS, PAVERS, LATTICE GREEN WALLS. THE COLORS ARE HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO MATCH THE THE COFFEE RUSH APPROVED BY THE WALMART, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE SIGNAGE INCLUDES ONE SINGLE FACE WALL SIGN WITH LED ELIMINATED CHANNEL LETTERS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING. AT THE JULY 9TH, 2026, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026 TO THE CITY COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE. THIS ALSO. AT THE FIRST READING, THE CITY COMMISSION ON JULY 27TH, 2026, THE CITY COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO TRANSMIT THE ORDINANCE TO SECOND READING, SUBJECT TO ADDRESSING THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS. AT THIS POINT, IF I MAY INTRODUCE THE APPLICANT. MR. GOOD TO COME TO THE PODIUM TO ADDRESS THE FOUR. QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT THE FIRST READING. ONE IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE REGARDING THE COMPENSATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN. PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COMMISSION REGARDING THE TOTAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT, WHICH WAS UPDATED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND PROVIDE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE. AND WE. YOU ALSO REQUESTED STAFF TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PUDS. IF THERE WAS A A. A REQUEST TO DEVIATE FROM THE 25% OPEN SPACE STAFF DID LOOK AT QUITE A FEW AND WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL FINDING ANY AT THIS TIME. I KNOW AT TIMES THAT THERE'S BEEN REQUESTS FOR THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH PD HAS REQUESTED THAT. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO MR. GOOD, WHO'S THE APPLICANT, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED DURING THE FIRST READING. THANK YOU JODY. 
          SO WE'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO THE PETITIONER TO PRESENT ITS REQUEST TO THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          WELCOME. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MY NAME IS ROBERT GOOD. AND I'M AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. RON YOST IS HERE WITH COFFEE RUSH. AND THEN WE HAVE BOBBY STEWART WITH PUBLIX, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS PROPERTY. YES. SO SINCE THE LAST MEETING WANTED TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS. AND IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 2104-07, WITH RESPECT TO THE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS DEDICATED. BASICALLY, IT WAS. REQUIREMENT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE FINAL CEO THAT THERE BE A TOTAL DEDICATION OF 57.5FT OF RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE CENTER 
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LINE EXISTING BAKER ROAD. IT SHALL BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY ALONG THE. THE PROPERTY SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF BAKER. SO THERE'S. WE CHECKED PUBLIX'S FILES. THERE'S BEEN NO REMUNERATION. SO IT WAS A IT WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR IT TO BE DEDICATED. AND SO I'M NOT AWARE. 
          CONDITION IN ORDER TO GRANT THE PUD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THIS RIGHT OF WAY. CORRECT. AND IT AND IT HAD TO AND IT HAD TO HAVE OCCURRED PRIOR TO THE FINAL CEO OR OF THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME, WHICH HAS BEEN CODE FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT WAS THAT RESOLUTION NUMBER? THAT WAS 2104-07. AND THAT WAS RECORDED ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2007. AND IN THAT, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS TO MAKE NOTE OF IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT THE THAT THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME DID IN ADDITION TO THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, THERE WAS ALSO A CONTRIBUTION OF $40,906.75 TO THE CITY'S TREE REPLACEMENT FUND. AND THAT CITES VERY WELL LANDSCAPED TODAY. AND SO THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION TO THE CITY. AND IN ADDITION, THERE WAS A CONTRIBUTION OF $5,000 TO THE CITY'S CANEY CREEK WATERSHED AT THAT TIME. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO MAYOR COUNCIL, JUST TO BE AWARE OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THAT QUESTION. 
          MAYOR, THE ORIGINAL APPROVED ORDINANCE, AS HE'S REFERRING TO MR. GOODERS REFERRING TO, WAS IN YOUR PACKET. OKAY. THANK YOU JODY. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WITH THAT ONE, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ONE. I THINK THE SECOND ONE IS MORE OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY IS THE INTENT. 
          THE TOTAL PROPERTY WAS 7.79 ACRES IN THE BEGINNING, BACK IN 2007 OR SO. AND WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THE OPEN SPACE WAS MET. AND THAT INCLUDED HAVING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS DEDICATED, THE GREEN SPACE THAT WAS IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY. IT ALSO HAD INCLUDED PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, AND THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT HAD POSED A CHALLENGE THEREAFTER. AND IT JUST SINCE THEN, IT HASN'T BEEN CLEANED UP WITH AN ACTION OR AN UPDATE TO DEVELOPMENT ORDER. BUT WHAT HAPPENED? AND, YOU KNOW, MR. STEWART WITH PUBLIX COULD SPEAK TO IT IF NEEDED. YOU KNOW, THE CUSTOMER, IT WAS UNRAVELING AND IT WAS BECOMING A REALLY HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE FOR CUSTOMERS. AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY FLOODING THAT THAT ANY OF US ARE AWARE OF AT THAT SITE. 
          IN FACT, IT DRAINS RATHER WELL. AND SO IT HOWEVER, THOSE FOUR DRIVEWAYS THAT WERE PERVIOUS THAT GOT CALCULATED AS A 50% CREDIT TO THE OPEN SPACE WERE PAVED OVER AS IMPERVIOUS TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. AND THE CUSTOMERS AND THE COMMUNITY WERE A LOT HAPPIER. AND I BELIEVE THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME DIALOG, BECAUSE I KNOW PUBLIX IS PRETTY GOOD IN TERMS OF BY THE BOOK. IT'S JUST THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER NEVER GOT UPDATED. AS A RESULT, WHEN WE WENT IN WITH OUR APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO REFLECT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS THERE AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CREDIT INTO THE OPEN SPACE. SO BETWEEN NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IT AS A RESULT OF THAT SITUATION, AND WE ARE NO LONGER 7.79 ACRES, WE'RE ACTUALLY 7.443 ACRES. SO WE'RE ABOUT 0.347 ACRES LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE WHEN WE MET THE OPEN SPACE. AS A RESULT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION. SO THOSE TWO COMPONENTS HAVE LED TO WHERE WE'RE UNABLE TO MEET THE 25%. AND WE HAVE ASKED FOR A DEVIATION THAT YOU SEE AT THE 18.5%. AND THAT THAT'S REALLY WENT INTO THE COMBINATION OF THAT. AND I WILL SAY LASTLY, WITH RESPECT TO THIS REMAINING PARCEL OR PORTION OF THE SITE, IT'S IT'S A LEASED PORTION, BUT THIS REMAINING PORTION, WHICH IS 0.55 ACRES, WE ARE PROVIDING OVER 40% OPEN SPACE. SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. WE EXCEED THE 25% ON WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO DO, BUT THERE'S JUST NO WAY WE CAN MEET IT. BASED ON NOW HAVING TO REFLECT THE TRUE ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY NOW, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S BEEN DEDICATED IS THE 7.443 ACRES. 
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DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REQUEST TO THE CITY COMMISSION? AND THEN I CAN I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'VE ANSWERED THOSE THAT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE MORE. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS TO DISCUSS THE COMPENSATION, WHICH IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS WAS A A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION NOT TAKEN BY EMINENT DOMAIN. PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COMMISSION REGARDING THE TOTAL FOOTPRINT WHICH WAS CORRECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, INSTEAD OF THE 496 635FT■!S. OH, CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. PLUS THE PROPERTY ACREAGE. RIGHT. AND THEN PROVIDE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE, WHICH MR. GOODE DID JUST EXPLAIN. AND THEN ALSO TO DETERMINE IF ANY OTHER IF IF A DEVIATION FROM THE OPEN SPACE AND ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND STAFF WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING RECENTLY, DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? AS PUT MY LIGHT ON? HAS ANYTHING CHANGED, COMMISSIONER CLARK? THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE COMMISSIONER CLARK? NO. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS UPDATED PROBABLY IN YOUR PACKAGE WAS THE COLOR RENDITIONS. THEY HAD THE OLD COLORS IN THERE, AND WE DID UPDATE YOUR PACKAGE WITH THE CORRECT COLORS. WHAT WAS CHANGED FOR THE COLORS? THE REQUESTED COLORS THAT WERE DONE THE SAME AS WALMART, WALMART, NEXT TO WALMART WHERE THEY ARE. THEY'RE THE LIGHTER COLORS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSISTENT COLORING, CONSISTENT WITH THE STEWART PLAZA. RIGHT. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS CHANGED OUT FOR YOUR RENDITION FOR THIS, THIS PACKET. COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU FLIPPED YOUR LIGHT ON AGAIN. I CAN TRY FINGERS. THANK YOU. DID THAT CONCLUDE YOUR. YES QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE GO AHEAD. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE PATTERN UP THE AND I GUESS THERE'S NO EXTREME LIGHTING OR ANY NOISE OR THE GARBAGE WHEN IT GOES BACK THERE. CAN YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, PLEASE, JODY. SURE. MR. COOGLER,CO THANK YOU. ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. CORNER. NOT BAD HERE. YEAH. NO LIGHTING ISSUES. THAT'S FINE. SO THE LIGHTING HAS BEEN. YEAH. SO AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE. LOOK AT THE LIGHTING AND THE PHOTOMETRICS, WHICH WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YEP, YEP. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER CLARK. YES. THANKS. COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. SO YOU KNOW, 18 IS QUITE A BIT LESS IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK INTO THE MIC. THANKS. 18 IS QUITE A BIT LESS THAN 25. SO WHY IS DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL? WELL, A LOT OF THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION THAT WAS REQUIRED DURING THE FIRST APPROVAL, AND THEN ALSO THE FAILING PERVIOUS CONCRETE ALSO FAILED, WHICH GAVE THEM THE CREDIT TOWARD OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. SO THE CITY FEELS IT'S REASONABLE THAT THEY COULD WE COULD RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL. I MEAN, I AGREE, YOU KNOW, THE SIN IS NOT THEIRS. IT'S NOT COFFEE RUSHES. I WENT TO SEE THEIR BUILDING DOWN SOUTH. I MEAN, THIS IS THESE ARE TINY LITTLE BUILDINGS, VERY ATTRACTIVE. I MEAN, THE SIN WAS. 
          WHEN PUBLIX PAVED OVER, I DON'T KNOW, OR WHOEVER OWNED THAT PLAZA WITHOUT A PERMIT. THAT'S WHAT WE. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WERE MAINTAINING TO LOCATE A PERMIT. AND SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEMORIALIZE THAT. BUT CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? OUR OUR SYSTEM HAS CHANGED OVER. SO WE MAY NOT HAVE THOSE RECORDS. AND I DO KNOW THOSE OLDER THOSE OLDER PERVIOUS PAVEMENT BLOCKS WERE BAD. THEY WERE REALLY BAD. THERE'S SO MUCH BETTER NOW. SO I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE OWNER, CERTAINLY IN LIGHT OF PUSHING LADEN GROCERY CARTS AROUND TOO. SO OKAY, I JUST THINK IT'S AN I MEAN, THERE'S, THEY HAVE A HUGE RETENTION POND THERE. THEY BACK UP. I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE 
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ON THE PROPERTY. THE TWO LITTLE OR RETENTION PONDS. THOSE ARE ON THE NEXT PROPERTY. CORRECT. 
          BUT STILL THE HUGE RETENTION POND THAT'S THAT IS WALLED IN. YEAH. THAT IS THEIR RETENTION POND, RIGHT. THAT WAS PART OF BEHIND, I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT PROPERTY. BUT YES, THAT'S THE NEXT PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S THE MAIN CONTIGUOUS. YES. AND THEN THE WHOLE THING BACKS UP TO 153 ACRE HAYNIE CREEK PRESERVE, WHICH WOULD BE SO OKAY. I JUST APPRECIATED THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE WITNESSES THAT ARE UNDER OATH MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT. AS FAR AS I CAN. I CAN ADDRESS THE PREVIOUS. COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? ROBERT STEWART WITH PUBLIC SUPERMARKETS, I CAN ADDRESS THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT BACK IN 2012 BECAUSE I. THE ONLY REASON I REMEMBER THIS IS IT. I WAS MANAGING THEIR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT DOWN IN MIAMI, AND WE WERE GETTING SO MANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY WAS GETTING COMPLAINTS TO. PROBABLY NONE OF US WERE EVEN DEALING WITH THIS BACK THEN. AND SO IT WAS AGREED UPON TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A FLOWABLE COVERING OVER THE EXISTING PERVIOUS CONCRETE PAVEMENT IN JUST THE DRIVE LANES TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CUSTOMERS COMPLAINING ABOUT BREAKING THEIR EGGS. AND THIS WAS THE THIS IS WHAT WENT ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THIS THING. 
          IT WENT ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. SO FINALLY THE CITY AND PUBLIX. THEY AGREED WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THE SITE AT THAT TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS DONE BY A COMPANY CALLED THE REDLANDS CORPORATION. THEY DID THE SITE WORK BACK THEN, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT'S WHO WAS DOING IT. SO THAT'S HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. THAT'S HOW IT ALL CAME ABOUT. BUT I THINK WE HAD A MEETING A WHILE BACK AND WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STORM DRAINAGE CONDITIONS AND STUFF. AND THAT RETENTION POND HAS NEVER EVEN COME CLOSE TO FULL PULL IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. SO I DON'T I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. YEAH. IF I HAD TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS PROBABLY CREATED FOR THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH. 
          YEAH, RETENTION. I THINK THE, THE BIG DISCUSSION THAT AT LEAST I'VE MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A PUD IS TO HAVE 25% OPEN SPACE, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR 18%. NOW, IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THAT ORIGINAL IMPERVIOUS, THEY WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THEN FOR THE PUD. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, JODY, I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN IF THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE IMPERVIOUS PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE MET MOST OF IT, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE MET IT. THEY WOULD ALMOST HAVE THAT SAME NUMBER. BUT THE CONCERN THAT THEY HAD WAS THAT WHEN THEY HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION TAKEN FROM THE PROPERTY, SO THE PROPERTY WAS APPROVED FIRST WITH THE PD, WITH THE 25%, AND THEN AFTER THEY DID THE DEDICATION OF THE. SO OKAY, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO YES, OKAY. IN 2007, WHEN THIS GOT APPROVED, THE ORDINANCE, IT WAS IN THERE, FIRST OF ALL, 7.79 ACRES. AND THE CREDIT WAS ALLOWED BECAUSE IT HAD NOT BEEN DEDICATED. BUT THEY WERE THIS AT THAT TIME, THE CITY HAD AGREED TO PROVIDE THE CREDIT, BUT THE DEDICATION WAS STILL TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. IT WAS IN THE AS A REQUIREMENT TO BE DEDICATED BEFORE THE CO. BUT THE 7.79 ACRES HAD INCLUDED THAT RIGHT OF WAY, AND THE GREEN SPACE THAT ALLOWED FOR THE OPEN SPACE CALCULATION TO MEET THE 25%. THAT WAS ALL APPROVED WHEN WE SUBMITTED THIS GO ROUND LAST YEAR, WE HAD TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT, AND WE NO LONGER IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED. SO WE NOW NO LONGER HAVE 7.79 AND WE ONLY HAVE 7.443 ACRES. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CURRENT LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON PROPERTY APPRAISER OR CLERK OF COURT FOR THE RECORDED DEED? IS IT SET BECAUSE LIKE IN THE ITEM REPORT, JODY, IT SAYS 7.79. IT IT COULD BE. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT. BUT THE OUR, OUR ALTA SURVEY THAT WE HAD TO UPDATE FOR THIS PROCESS, IT'S 7.443. SO IT'S BEEN DEDICATED. I'M NOT SURE. YEAH. BECAUSE IF SHE PULLS IT UP WHAT IT WILL BE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 97. IT WAS 6.62. AND THAT. DID YOU GUYS ACQUIRE MORE PROPERTY? THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN OR BECAUSE IT WAS 7.79 BECAUSE IT GOES FROM 6.62. AND THEN IT INCLUDES A 0.68 ACRE. BUT THEN IN THE THE ITEM REPORT FOR THE. WHERE DID I SEE IT AT? I SAW IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT IT'S SAYING 7.79 JODY I THINK IT SAYS IT. IT ACTUALLY SAYS IT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING VOTED ON. IT 
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SAYS, LET'S SEE. TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO, TWO, AND SECTION TWO. ON PAGE THREE OF THE ORDINANCE, IT SAYS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE PLUS OR -7.79 ACRE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A, AND THEN A MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT B. SO YOUR PROPERTY APPRAISER HAS IT 7.45. SO THEY ROUNDED UP BUT THEY ROUNDED UP. IT'S. AND WE CAN. IF. IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED, WE CAN WORK ON THE. THE FINAL ACRE SIZE. I CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT JUST TO DETERMINE TO VERIFY WITH OUR SURVEYOR AND HIS SURVEYOR. BUT THIS WAS REVIEWED BY OUR SURVEYOR AND ALSO PREPARED BY THEIR SURVEYOR. SO I CAN IF IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO APPROVE WITH STAFF JUST VERIFYING THE FINAL ACRE SIZE. SO I'M JUST CONFUSED. 
          LIKE WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, THEN THEY HAD PERCENT OR IT GOT APPROVED AND THEY HAD 25%. AND THEN THEY GAVE DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN THEY ENDED UP WITH 18. YES. 
          IT'S THAT SECOND SCENARIO. SO THE 25, THEY HAD THE 25. THEY LOST THE RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE PERVIOUS 18 THAT HAPPENED IN 2012. OKAY. THERE ARE STILL PORTIONS OF THE PARKING LOT THAT ARE PERVIOUS. IT'S JUST THE DRIVE AISLE LANES WERE WERE PAVED OVER TO THE AS, AS, AS MR. STEWART SAID. YEAH, YEAH. JUST MAKE SURE YOU COME TO THE MIC. SORRY. YOU'RE OKAY. 
          DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER GERVAIS, YOUR LIGHTS ON. YES. THERE'S THESE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, BUT THEY DO DO ROADWAYS AND WHAT WHERE THEY ARE PERVIOUS. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ROADWAY YOU'RE PUTTING IN. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. THE EXISTING DRIVE AISLES, THERE'S FOUR DRIVE AISLES THAT ARE AT THE SHOPPING CENTER COMING IN AS YOU DRIVE IN OFF OF FEDERAL TO THE PUBLIX AND YOU GO LOOK FOR A PARKING SPACE. AND IF, OKAY, IF YOU CAN BRING THAT AERIAL UP, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR DRIVE AISLES AND THOSE WERE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT. AND WHEN THAT WAS DONE IN 2007, IT ENDED UP, I GUESS, LASTING ABOUT FIVE YEARS, 2012, WHEN THE CUSTOMERS WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THOSE DRIVE AISLES PUSHING THEIR BUGGY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU REPEAT THAT BECAUSE I WAS THINKING IT WAS THE THE DRIVE THRUS THAT YOU WERE PUTTING IN. NO, MA'AM, NO, MA'AM. WE YOUR DRIVE THRUS WILL BE. WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING TO. BASICALLY, THE WAY WE HAVE ON OUR PLAN IS REGULAR PAVEMENT BECAUSE OF THE WEARING THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE GOING ON IN DRIVE THRUS. IT WILL BE REGULAR PAVEMENT. HOWEVER, OUR .55 ACRES, HALF ACRE OR SO, OVER 40% MORE LIKE 42% IS BASICALLY OPEN SPACE. WE'RE SO SMALL. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE. SO WE JUST CAN'T MEET ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUT THE DRIVE THRUS IN. AND WE ALSO PUT A BYPASS LANE ON ONE, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS TRAFFIC WAS COMING OFF OF BAKER INTO THIS TO THE CENTER, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY BACKUP. SO THOSE DRIVE THRUS WOULD IF WE DIDN'T DO REGULAR PAVEMENT, WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE FUTURE PROBLEMS. SO THOSE ARE NOT PERVIOUS. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE REGULAR PAVEMENT IMPERVIOUS. BUT WE DID. AND WE DO MEET AND EXCEED THE 25% THRESHOLD ON WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING LEFT. OKAY. SO IF YOU HAD ONE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO DRIVE THRUS NOW. YES. WOULD IT CHANGE THAT CONFIGURATION IF YOU ONLY HAD ONE? IT WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF COFFEE RUSH. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL. OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS IS SUCH AS WELL AS KEEPING THE DRIVE LANES THE WAY THEY ARE. 
          DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER JOVI YES IT DOES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. GOING BACK TO THIS PERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS JODI. SO BACK IN 2007, THEY MET THE 25% REQUIREMENTS. THEY HAD THE PERVIOUS DRIVING LANES. THEY GET RID OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY GO DOWN TO 18%. CORRECT. THEY WELL, NOT AT THAT TIME. SO THEY HAD THE 25%. THEY LOST A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE OPEN GREEN SPACE OR THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY GAVE UP THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THAT WENT FROM 25 FURTHER, WHENEVER THEY PAVED THE DRIVE AISLES FROM PERVIOUS TO IMPERVIOUS, YOU ONLY GET A HALF, YOU ONLY GET HALF THE CREDIT. SO THEN THEY LOST THAT HALF CREDIT FOR PAVING THAT PORTIONS OF THE DRIVE AISLES. SO WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PERVIOUS PERCENTAGE WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN OH SEVEN? PERVIOUS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THE PERVIOUS, BUT THE OPEN SPACE WAS RIGHT AT 25%. OPEN SPACE WAS 25. THEY WERE AT 
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25%. WE MET. WE MET THE REQUIREMENTS IN 2007 IN RETURN IN IN BETWEEN 2000 AND 7. AND TODAY THEY HAD TO GIVE IT RIGHT AWAY, WHICH TOOK AWAY FROM THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. AND AFTER THEY GAVE UP THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY ALSO HAD TO, BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THEY PAVED THE DRIVE AISLES, WHICH IS COUNTED TOWARD OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT REDUCED THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FURTHER. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU COME UP WITH THE 18% TODAY, IF IT HELPS, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS AROUND. YEAH, LOSING THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTED AT LEAST 4% OF THE PROPERTY. THEN THE DRIVE AISLES, ABOUT 3% AS IT RELATES TO OPEN SPACE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF ALMOST GET FROM 25 TO 18 AT FOUR AND THREE. IT'S WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I GET CONFUSED BECAUSE LIKE IT WAS A CONDITION OR NOT A CONDITION TO GET THE PUD APPROVED ORIGINALLY. IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THE PUD WAS APPROVED WITHOUT IT AS A CONDITION. AND THEN THEY. THAT IS CORRECT. SO THE ENOUGH TO GIVE THE RIGHT OF WAY UP WHEN DOTTIE CAME KNOCKING. SO SO PART OF THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YES, IT WAS A LOT. IT WAS. THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO GIVE UP THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEY GAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY UP. THERE WAS NO COMPENSATION. IT WAS DEDICATED. HOWEVER, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AT THE TIME NEGOTIATION SAYING, LOOK, WE ALREADY HAVE. IT'S A TIGHT SITE. LET US UTILIZE THE OPEN SPACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IT ACTUALLY MADE SENSE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, WHEN YOU RUN ALL THE CALCULATIONS AND THE DATA CALCULATIONS, IT WAS 7.79 ACRES. AND IT WOULD BE UNTIL THE STORE GOT BUILT AND THE RIGHT OF WAY GOT DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE. SO IT MADE SENSE THE WAY THEY DID IT WITH THE SITE DATA TABULATIONS. AND IT ALL WORKED. AND THE CITY AT THAT TIME ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DEDICATE. MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF A COUPLE THINGS THAT I READ OFF HERE IS THAT ONE, THEY WERE GOING TO DEDICATE IT. NO COMPENSATION THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN AS WELL. SO I GUESS I'M NOT SURE. WHAT WAS IT. EMINENT DOMAIN WAS NOT EMINENT DOMAIN BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPENSATE. 
          THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPENSATE THE LANDOWNER. BUT IT WAS A DEDICATION REQUIREMENT. 
          THEY HAD TO DEDICATE A PORTION OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY TO BUILD THE SHOPPING CENTER. WAS THIS ON BAKER ROAD OR US ONE RIGHT AWAY, BAKER ROAD, BAKER ROAD, YES, THAT'S WHERE THE EXTENDED TURN LANE. GOTCHA. THAT LITTLE ODD TURN LANE WHERE YOU SEE THE DIAMOND IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE DEDICATED TURN LANE. AND THEY ACTUALLY WENT. SO WHEN THEY. OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND IT MORE. SO YOU DEDICATED THIS RIGHT AWAY. DOT PAID FOR THE DEDICATED TURNING LANE OR. NO, NO, THE APPLICANT DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ANY, ANY COMPENSATION. THERE WAS A CONDITION WHERE THE APPLICANT HAD TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. YES. SO AND I THINK SOME OF THEIR OPEN SPACE MITIGATION WENT TO THE COST THAT THEY, THEY FORWARDED OVER TO HANEY CREEK BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TIME THAT WE WERE WORKING ON HANEY CREEK. AND THEY DID GIVE A CONTRIBUTION TO HANEY CREEK PRESERVES AT THAT TIME AS WELL. YEAH, 5000 FOR THAT AND THEN 40,000 FOR LANDSCAPE. SO THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON IN THOSE CONDITIONS WHEN THIS WAS GOING ON. AND IT WAS IT WAS A PRETTY BIG DEAL AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT LOT. IT WAS A VERY UNIQUE SITE. EVERYBODY WANTED IT, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS TO ADDRESS. AND THEN THE ROAD CAME ALONG AND, OKAY, COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE CREDIT GIVEN FOR PERVIOUS PAVEMENT. IF 4% THEY WERE GETTING IF THAT REPRESENTED 4% OF THE GREEN SPACE. I DON'T HAVE THOSE ACTUAL NUMBERS. I THINK I'M JUST THEY ONLY GET CREDIT FOR HALF. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY ONLY GET CREDIT FOR HALF OF. EVEN THOUGH IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE. THEY ONLY GET CREDIT FOR HALF IN MEETING THAT PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. WHENEVER YOU DO IMPERVIOUS, WHENEVER YOU DO PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, YOU DON'T GET A FULL CREDIT. YOU ONLY GET HALF OF IT. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT, COMMISSIONER. DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? DOES THE PETITIONER WISH TO OFFER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE CONCLUDING ITS PRESENTATION? NO. OKAY. THE PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE HAS ENDED AND THE HEARING IS CLOSED. 
          DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. IT SAYS THE PARTY SHALL BE PROVIDED WITH EQUAL TIME TO PRESENT THE BOARD WITH ITS CLOSING REMARKS. NEW EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED DURING CLOSING REMARKS. THE PURPOSE OF THE REMARKS IS TO AFFORD THE PARTIES WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, AND ISSUES RAISED 
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DURING PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE CLARIFIED BY REFERENCING EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, AND THE PETITIONER SHALL PRESENT LAST. DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY CLOSING REMARKS. 
          I'LL JUST SAY I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. THIS IS MY THIS MIGHT BE MY FIFTH TIME IN THIS ROOM. 
          KNOW I MISSED ONE BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER HAD TO BE HERE BECAUSE I MISSED A FLIGHT. BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING TO KNOW EVERYBODY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF THE CITY. STEWART. AND YOU DIDN'T BRING US A CUP OF COFFEE. I WILL AFTER IT'S ALL DONE. MR. NO. CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? AND I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I'M RON YOST WITH COFFEE RUSH. THANK YOU. I'LL ADD ONE THING I COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER USE TO CLOSE OUT THIS SITE AND FINISH IT WITH A COFFEE RUSH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO REQUEST DIRECTION IN THE FORM OF A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. MR. MAYOR, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITHOUT EMOTION. SO ANYHOW, I'LL MAKE A MOTION UNDER ORDINANCE. YES. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026. MOVE APPROVAL WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS PROVIDED BY STAFF AND ANY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED TODAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE NUMBER 2555-2026 BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RICH. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEE. IS THIS WHERE I HAVE TO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR THIS WAS ALREADY DONE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT ON THE QUASI JUDICIAL. CORRECT. THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, RIGHT. WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE MOTION AND WE CAN DELIBERATE THE MOTION. MY COMMENTS ARE SIMPLE. THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THE WHOLE OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? YOU GUYS ARE GOING FROM 25% TO 18% AND STAFF COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER COMPARISON. THAT'S MY COMMENT. IT'S IT'S AT 18% NOW. 
          CORRECT. IT'S GOING TO 18. NO, NO IT'S NOT AT 25. IT'S AT 18 NOW. YEAH. BUT IT WAS BEFORE THE PROJECT. YEAH. THEY CAME INTO IT WITH ALREADY BEING 18 CORRECT. YES. THEY CAME INTO THE PROJECT WITH IT ALREADY BEING 18%. SO THEY THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLAY. IT WAS ALL WHATEVER WAS DONE WITH PUBLIX WHERE THEY LOST THAT 6% OR WHATEVER. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER. RICH. NO, I'M GLAD. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE. AND THIS IS IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE RETAIN THIS GREEN SPACE AND THIS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CAPABILITY. I TAKE THEM AT THEIR WORD, AND CERTAINLY PUBLIX DOES NOT HAVE THE REPUTATION OF ACTING WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IN WHICH THEY OPERATE. SO THE CITY DID ALLOW THEM TO GO DOWN TO THIS 18.5. I THINK THEIR LANDSCAPING IS TERRIFIC. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE. AND I THINK IT IS WELL SUITED TO CLOSE THIS THIS PROJECT OUT. SO. YOU KNOW, RELUCTANTLY I AM IN I AM IN I, I DO VIEW THIS FAVORABLY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? MARY, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL. SURE. COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, MAYOR. READ NO MOTION PASSES WITH MAYOR READ DISSENTING. 
          [9. HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM]
CONGRATULATIONS, GUYS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION FOR THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM. WELL, JUST SETTING UP, I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK INTRO. BACK IN 2006, SECTION 905 OF THE CITY CHARTER WAS ADDED WHERE ANY CONVEYANCE OR SALE OR LONG TERM LEASE IN EXCESS OF TEN YEARS OF ANY INTEREST IN CITY OWNED PROPERTY ALONG SAINT LUCIE RIVER OR ALONG ANY TYPE OF TIDAL CREEK REQUIRES APPROVAL BY A REFERENDUM. SO IN 2011, THE CITY WENT OUT TO REFERENDUM ON A A TWO POINT OR 
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11.97 APPROXIMATE TWO ACRE, ALREADY COMMERCIALLY ZONED PARCEL THAT IT HAD PURCHASED, AND INSTEAD OF ADDING IT TO THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE, THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT SEPARATE SO THAT THEY COULD USE ANY INCOME GENERATED FROM LEASING OUT THAT APPROXIMATE TWO ACRE PARCEL TO HELP FUND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK. EARLIER THIS YEAR, CITY COMMISSION INSTRUCTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING STEPS TO CONVERT THE APPROXIMATE TWO ACRE PARCEL INTO CONSERVATION AND ADDING IT TO THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE. AND SINCE WE HAD ORIGINALLY GONE OUT TO REFERENDUM IN 2011 TO KEEP THE TWO ACRE PARCEL COMMERCIALLY ZONED AND USE THE MONEY FOR REVENUE TO MAINTAIN, SINCE WE WENT OUT TO REFERENDUM AND THE VOTERS VOTED ON IT IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAD TO UNDO IT. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS VIA REFERENDUM TO UNDO THAT REFERENDUM. ALSO, ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS. WE HAD A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE IN WHICH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AGREED TO THOSE TERMS, WHERE THE APPROXIMATE TWO ACRE PROPERTY WOULD BE USED TO GENERATE REVENUE TO FUND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK. SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, EARLIER THIS YEAR HAD A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. IT SUBSEQUENTLY WENT TO THE COUNTY, AND THEY ALSO PASSED A RESOLUTION AGREEING TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY CONDITIONAL STILL UPON THE VOTER APPROVAL ON REFERENDUM. AND SO WE'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS ALREADY, AND WE'VE COME AGAIN TODAY FOR A DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. AND JIM TROTSKY WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND BACKGROUND, WHICH YOU GUYS HAD REQUESTED PREVIOUSLY. SO I'LL PASS IT ON OVER TO MR. TROTSKY. THANK YOU, MR. BAGGOTT. SURE. JIM CARROLL, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR PUTTING THE TRUST IN ME FOR DOING SOME RESEARCH ON SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I'M SOMEWHAT BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A CITY HISTORIAN. WE WORKED HERE WITH THE CITY HALL PROPERTY AND TALKED ALL ABOUT WHAT THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY HALL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE SITTING ON RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS, OF COURSE, OUR BALL FIELDS, WHICH IS AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HANEY CREEK. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN A LITTLE ROAD HERE AND TALK ABOUT HANEY CREEK'S HISTORY, HOW IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR ACQUISITION TIMELINE, A RECENT EVENTS, AND THEN ALSO THE PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. THESE ARE BULLET POINTS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THAT ARE REALLY JUST INFORMATION ABOUT HANEY CREEK PARK AND NATURE PRESERVE, NAMED AFTER DOCTOR HORACE J. HANEY, AN EARLY STUART AREA PHYSICIAN WHO SETTLED ALONG THE CREEK IN 1882, MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO, BEFORE STUART WAS INCORPORATED. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE MOSQUITOES MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE BACK THEN? THE PRESERVE PROTECTS PART OF THE HANEY CREEK WATERSHED, WHICH DRAINS INTO THE SOUTH FORK OF THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER. THE 157 ACRE PRESERVE PROTECTS RARE FLORIDA HABITATS, INCLUDING COASTAL SCRUBLAND, PINE FLATWOODS, WETLANDS AND WET PRAIRIE. ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AS A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ENVIRONMENTAL RESTORATION PROJECT TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY ENTERING THE RIVER. 
          SUPPORTED BY COMMUNITY FUNDING THROUGH A VOTER APPROVED HALF CENT SALES TAX DEDICATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS OPENED TO THE PUBLIC BEGINNING IN 2016, WITH ADDITIONAL TRAIL PHASES EXPANDING ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE PRESERVE. THE PRESERVE SERVES AS BOTH A RECREATIONAL RESOURCE AND A LIVING EXAMPLE OF STUART'S NATURAL LANDSCAPE BEFORE DEVELOPMENT, WHILE HELPING PROTECT WATER QUALITY IN THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER. TODAY, VISITORS ENJOY 4.4 MILES OF TRAILS, A DOG PARK, PICNIC AREAS AND A NATURE OBSERVATION OPPORTUNITY. WHEN WE LOOK AT HANEY CREEK, I WANTED YOU TO HAVE SOME MAPS, AND ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT I REFERRED TO EARLIER WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE GREEN LAND THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR ENTIRE CITY. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THAT EARLIER PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE AREAS IN WHICH WE HAVE DEDICATED TO UPLAND PRESERVATION. AND I TURNED THIS OVER SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE NORTH END OF THE CITY OF STUART, AS WELL AS THE SOUTH END, BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO LOOK AT FROM THIS AREA. AND AS YOU CAN SEE 
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ON THE LEFT SLIDE, THIS AREA IS VERY DENSE AND IT'S INCORPORATES THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE, AND ON THE RIGHT IT'S EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE. DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, THE THE CITY OF STUART MANAGES CURRENTLY NEARLY THREE TIMES THE REQUIRED PARKLAND, EXCEEDING ITS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS BY 134 ACRES. AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SAY, WELL, HOW'D YOU GET TO THAT ANSWER, JIM? WELL, WE PROJECTED THE MAXIMUM POPULATION BUILD OUT, WHICH IS 23,000. NOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT AT 23,000 YET, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USED THE HIGHEST END NUMBER THAT WE COULD. WHEN WE LOOK AT THREE ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS, IT COMES TO 69 ACRES. 
          OUR MANAGED AREAS THAT WE MANAGE, ALL THE THINGS THAT PUBLIC WORKS MANAGES COMES TO 203 ACRES. SO THAT'S HOW WE ARE ABLE TO GET TO THAT THREE TIMES. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE, NOT INCLUDING MANAGED PARKS OF 528 ACRES, WHICH GIVES US A TOTAL GREEN SPACE, MANAGED AND MANAGED OF 731 ACRES. SO IN ESSENCE, IF YOU ADD ALL OF THESE TOGETHER, OUR TOTAL GREEN SPACE IS MORE THAN TEN TIMES THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OBJECTIVE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY OF STUART AND EVERYBODY THAT'S UP HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR COMPREHENSIVE AND PLAN IS ALSO EXCEEDING THAT. I'VE GOT ABOUT THREE SLIDES HERE, AND I AM NOT GOING TO READ EACH ONE TO BORE YOU TO TEARS. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE CREATED SORT OF A LITTLE STORY, AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE STORY IN A MORE ENTERTAINING WAY, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT THESE SLIDES UP HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE DOCUMENTS OF WHEN IT HAPPENED, THE ACTUAL DATES. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR KEEPING VERY COPIOUS NOTES, BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY TAG ALL OF THE DATES AND ALL OF THE RESOLUTION NUMBERS SO THAT WE HAVE A PART OF OUR OFFICIAL RECORD. THE STORY OF HANEY CREEK. HANEY CREEK HAS HAD QUITE A JOURNEY OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS. IN 2007, THE PROPERTY WAS APPROVED AS HARBOR WALK PRESERVE, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH OFFICES, RETAIL, A HOTEL AND A COMMUNITY TRAILHEAD. THE PROJECT NEVER MOVED FORWARD, AND THE DEVELOPER EVENTUALLY DECLARED BANKRUPTCY. IN 2011, THE CITY OF STUART AND MARTIN COUNTY PURCHASED 51 ACRES OF HANEY CREEK. AT THAT TIME, THE CITY PURCHASED A SEPARATE TWO ACRE PARCEL ALONG US, ONE WITH THE IDEA OF LEASING IT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND USING THE REVENUE TO HELP MAINTAIN HANEY CREEK AND OTHER CITY OWNED ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS. LATER THAT YEAR, VOTERS APPROVED THE CITY TO USE THAT TO USE THE 11.97 ACRE PARCEL FOR A LONG TERM COMMERCIAL LEASE. NOW, MANY TIMES YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT THIS TWO ACRE PARCEL THAT'S SORT OF A SLANG NAME. IT'S ACTUALLY MEASURES OUT TO BE 1.97 ACRES. SO IF YOU HEAR THOSE TERMS INTERCHANGEABLY, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING. OVER THE NEXT DECADE, THE CITY EXPLORED SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SITE. THE PROPERTY REMAINED DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE WHILE THE PRESERVE WAS RECOGNIZED FOR CONSERVATION. A FEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS INCLUDED A RESTAURANT, RETAIL SPACE, A HOTEL, AND EVEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHILE SEVERAL PROPERTIES WERE, WERE, WERE. WHILE SEVERAL PROPOSALS WERE CONSIDERED, NONE OF THEM ULTIMATELY MOVED FORWARD, AND MOST CURRENTLY, IN 2025, THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZED A TRAILHEAD ON THE US ONE PARCEL. THEN, IN 2026, AFTER RECEIVING AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FROM RACETRACK, THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO RELOCATE THE TRAILHEAD TO BAKER ROAD. AT THAT TIME, COMMISSIONERS REVISITED THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND BEGAN DISCUSSING WHETHER IT WAS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND WAS NO LONGER COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY, REQUIRES THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR REVENUE GENERATING PURPOSES. THE AGREEMENT MUST FIRST BE AMENDED BEFORE THE QUESTION CAN BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE VOTERS THROUGH A REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE HERE NOW, AND MANY OF YOU ARE RIGHT HERE WHILE WE DID SOME OF THESE THINGS. SO YOU'LL REMEMBER CERTAINLY THE LAST COUPLE OF THREE YEARS, BUT GOING WAY BACK INTO HISTORY, IT WAS SOMETHING I EVEN HAD TO DIG OUT. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HANEY CREEK LOOKS LIKE FROM AN AERIAL VIEW. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A VERY DENSE GREEN AREA. 
          IT'S GOT SOME AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED THROUGH HERE TO ORIENT YOURSELF. AND THIS IS AN 
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AREA THAT WE CREATED A GIS MAP OF. AND AS YOU'LL SEE FROM WHERE MY CURSOR IS, THIS IS COUNTY OWNED LAND. AND ALL OF THIS AREA IN HERE THAT'S SHADED GRAY IS ALL CITY OWNED LAND. 
          OUR PROPERTY LINES ARE OUTLINED IN BLUE. AND THAT LITTLE INFAMOUS TWO ACRE PARCEL 1.97 IS RIGHT THERE. SO YOU CAN SEE IT AS SOON AS YOU GO RIGHT OVER THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS FROM NORTH RIVER SHORES. THIS. YES, THAT WAS A PROPERTY LINE OR THE CITY LIMITS LINE. CITY LIMITS. THANK YOU. YES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 35. THAT WAS DONE IN 2026, WHICH WAS THE ABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE IT WITH THE $0.01 SALES TAX. THE ORIGINAL REFERENDUM WAS IN NOVEMBER THE 8TH, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE TO SHOW THAT WE'VE RESCINDED THE PRIOR REFERENDUM, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR REFERENDUM UNDER THE CITY CHARTER SECTION 9.05, SEEKING VOTER APPROVAL TO RESCIND THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2011 ELECTION BALLOT REFERENDUM REQUIRED TO LEASE AN UNDEVELOPED 1.9 ACRE COMMERCIAL PARCEL FRONTING US ONE OPPOSITE NORTH RIVER SHORES BOULEVARD THAT WAS TO FUND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE SO THAT THE 1.97 ACRE PARCEL MAY BE CONVERTED TO CONSERVATION AND ADDED TO THE HANEY CREEK PRESERVE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE HAVE A PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT WAS DONE. AND AT THIS POINT, SINCE I'M NOT A LAWYER, EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I LIKE TO PLAY ONE ON TV, I WILL REFER MY. I'LL REFER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OF THE BALLOT LANGUAGE TO MR. BAGGOTT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT I I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THISHAT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE BALL FIELDS, REFERENDUM. THE BALL FIELDS REFERENDUM IS DONE BY ORDINANCE. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS IN BALL FIELDS REFERENDUM. WE'RE ADDING LANGUAGE TO THE CHARTER. OKAY, SO THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SELL OR LEASE THE THE BALL FIELDS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A REFERENDUM. BUT IN DISTINCTION, THIS THIS SECTION IS ALREADY IN OUR CITY CHARTER. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO AN ORDINANCE. WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE CITY CHARTER. WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE CITY CHARTER. CITY CHARTER ALREADY SAYS YOU CAN'T SELL, CONVEY OR LEASE FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS. PROPERTY ALONG SAINT LUCIE RIVER OR ANY TIDAL CREEK. SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WAS DONE IS WE HAD ALREADY DONE THAT IN 2011, AND THE VOTERS APPROVED A REFERENDUM. THE CITY COMMISSION, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD USE THE APPROXIMATE TWO ACRES TO LEASE OUT TO FUND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK. SO SINCE THE VOTERS VOTED ON THAT, TO UNDO THAT, WE GOT TO GO BACK TO TO THE VOTERS TO HAVE THEM VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO STAY THE STATUS QUO OR RESCIND IT, AND THEN CONVERT THOSE TWO ACRES IN THE CONSERVATION. I HOPE I'M EXPLAINING IT. ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU ARE THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION WHEN THE BALL FIELDS AND THE HANEY CREEK, SINCE WE'RE DOING IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. BUT THERE IS A DISTINCTION IN BALL FIELDS WHERE WE'RE AMENDING THE CITY CHARTER TO PROTECT IT IN THE FUTURE. THAT WAS ALREADY DONE IN IN HANEY CREEK, AND WE ARE JUST COMPLYING WITH OUR CITY CHARTER. AND THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE UP THERE IS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT I HAD DONE IN RESOLUTION 14, 40-2026. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM PROCESS AND AND THE PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE. AND I HAVE A QUESTION, LEE, IS THIS A TWO PART REFERENDUM FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? NO, NO, IT IS A ONE PART REFERENDUM. IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT ALL. AND SO IF IT'S A ONE READING, WE'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE THIS IS A D AND D, THIS IS NOT A RESOLUTION. I HAD BROUGHT FORTH A RESOLUTION IN THE PAST, BUT IT DIDN'T PASS. SO WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. BUT THAT WAS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD IN THAT RESOLUTION. AND WE PUBLICLY NOTICED THIS, THOUGH FOR A DATE ALREADY. WE HAVE A WE HAVE WE HAVE A. IF YOU GUYS CONTINUE WITH WANTING TO GO FORWARD WITH A RESOLUTION WITH, WITH THIS LANGUAGE OR AMENDED LANGUAGE, LIKE IN THE BALL FIELDS, YOU GUYS AGREED TO LANGUAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND WE THAT'S WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS. SO WE'RE DISCUSSING ON THE 17TH AS WELL AS THE BALL FIELDS OR THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO IT TIMELY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET IT ON. SUPER. YEAH. SO WE ALREADY SCHEDULED IT ON ANOTHER MEETING, BUT THE 21ST OR. YEAH. 17 BECAUSE I THINK 
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IT'S THE 18TH THAT CORRECT. KNOW THE DEADLINE. THE DEADLINE FOR. 21ST IS THE DEADLINE. BUT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. YOU PEOPLE. YEAH. CORRECT. I'M GETTING CONFUSED TOO. SO WE HAVE IT ALREADY SCHEDULED A RESOLUTION WITH BALLOT LANGUAGE, HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND IF SO, WITH THE BALLOT LANGUAGE LIKE YOU DID WITH THE BALL FIELDS. AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT AGENDA ITEM ON THAT SPECIAL MEETING. BUT WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE THAT AS IT WOULD BE ON THERE SO THAT WE COULD YOU COULD VOTE ON IT BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS DEADLINE IS SO THAT IT'LL BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS DEADLINE IS IS AUGUST 21ST CORRECTLY? YES. SO DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE? BECAUSE WE AS A BOARD MAJORITY UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO RESCIND THE PRIOR REFERENDUM THAT WAS DONE IN 2011. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE REFERENDUM AS IT'S WRITTEN, BUT WE WE WE APPROVED THE AMENDMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY LIKEWISE AGREED TO AN AMENDMENT. BUT BOTH OF OUR RESOLUTIONS ARE CONTINGENT UPON REFERENDUM BEING CORRECT. IF WE LET'S SAY YOU YOU APPROVE LANGUAGE. WE GO OUT REFERENDUM IN THE. THE POPULATION VOTES NO, THEN IT DOESN'T PASS. THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS NOT AMENDED. WE. WE'RE STILL STATUS QUO. BUT WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THIS ORIGINAL REFERENDUM WAS IN 2011. WE JUST HAD A REFERENDUM TWO YEARS AGO WHERE 64, 64% OF MARTIN COUNTY VOTERS WANTED MORE OPEN GREEN SPACE IN THIS COUNTY. SO, COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. ARE YOU SAYING WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THIS TO GO FORWARD? WE WE ACTUALLY DID APPROVE THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR AS A BOARD TO RESCIND. WE WE SEE THAT RESOLUTION. IS THAT THE RESOLUTION? NO. THERE'S ONE RESOLUTION WHERE WE WANTED TO RESCIND THE PRIOR REFERENDUM. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE NOW. WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON THIS FIVE. AND OH, DO YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER HANDY? IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET. I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR THAT. YOU HAD IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, JIM. IF YOU COULD PULL IT UP FOR US, THIS RESOLUTION, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THIS BOARD? RESOLUTION 35-2026. GIVE THAT UP. I'M HAVING TROUBLE READING. LET ME FIND IT ON MINE. THIS IS TO WORK WITH. YEAH, I HAVE IT HERE. CORRECT. AND PART OF THAT. YEAH. 
          WELL, SURE. SO IT WAS AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION 35, 2026 WAS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURSUE THE CREATION OF A TRAILHEAD ALONG WITH ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE IN HANEY CREEK OFF OF BAKER ROAD, AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING LAND IN AVONLEA. 
          THAT'S THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE ONE, JIM. I THINK IT'S 40 INTO THIS DISCUSSION. NO, I THINK 40 4020 2640 IS QUEUED UP. LEE. OH, I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT 35 2026 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION PROVIDING FOR BALLOT LANGUAGE. 
          WELL, 40 WAS NOT PASSED. A 40 IS THIS ONE. YEAH, 40 WAS WE HAD BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU GUYS AND IT DID NOT PASS. CORRECT. THE ONLY THING THAT YOU HAD INSTRUCTED US WAS GOING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS TO, TO CONVERT THE TWO ACRES INTO CONSERVATION LAND. BUT TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO GO OUT THROUGH THIS. WE HAD TO FIRST GO FOR A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, WHICH WE DID PASS THAT, AND THE COUNTY PASSED IT. BUT BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS WERE STILL CONTINGENT UPON US GOING OUT FOR REFERENDUM AND HAVING THE VOTERS APPROVE SUCH. SO WE STILL HAVEN'T WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THIS TO GO OUT TO REFERENDUM AND CLEARLY NOT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. SO THE STAFF HERE IS IS RESPONDING TO WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS ASKED US TO DO. AND I THINK I'M NOT GOING TO READ MINDS, BUT I, I IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO REVIEW THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE BALL FIELDS. AND IF YOU GUYS WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION BALLOT, WE NEED INSTRUCTION TODAY TO BRING IT BACK ON THE 17TH IN A RESOLUTION FORMAT WITH WITH BALLOT LANGUAGE. AND AT THAT POINT, AGAIN, THIS IS A D AND D AT THAT POINT, THE RESOLUTION WOULD MIGHT HAVE MORE CLEAR, MIGHT HAVE THIS PROPOSED LANGUAGE OR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE OR AMENDMENTS THAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH TODAY. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE ONE READING FOR THE PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE AND APPROVAL TO GO OUT TO 
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REFERENDUM. AND THAT WOULD BE TIMELY DONE BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS DEADLINE. CAN YOU PUT THAT BACK UP, JIM? YES, SIR. IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO UNDO WHAT A REFERENDUM HAD ALREADY DONE IN 2011 AND EXPLAIN IT IN 75 WORDS. 
          SO I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I REALLY DO. I MEAN, LOOK AT THE LAST SENTENCE. IT IT TOOK A LOT OF EDITING JUST TO COME UP WITH THIS. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT BALLOT DRAFTER, BUT I'VE GOTTEN GOT SOME EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR ON IT. BUT. BUT YOU KNOW, I PROPOSED LANGUAGE WITH THE BALL FIELDS AND YOU GUYS EDITED IT. I TOOK NO OFFENSE TO THE EDITS BECAUSE THAT'S WHY IT'S YOUR DECISION. WHAT GOES OUT. AGAIN, I'M NOT PROFESSING TO BE AN EXPERT BALLOT LANGUAGE DRAFTER, BUT THIS WAS THE BEST SHOT. AND I, YOU KNOW, I HAD I HAD OTHER STAFF MEMBERS REVIEW IT AND ALSO GIVE INPUT ON IT AS WELL. SO I DIDN'T DO IT ALONE. 
          BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE STATUTE. YOU KNOW, WITH THE FIFTH, YOU CAN DO 15 WORDS IN THE TITLE AND THEN 75 WORDS IN THE IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS EDITING THIS LANGUAGE OR YOU LIKE THIS LANGUAGE AND YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE NEED A MAJORITY VOTE TO BRING IT BACK BY RESOLUTION ON. YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE THIRD ADDING ONE THIRD OF 1% OF ALL THE GREEN SPACE THE CITY HAS. GREEN SPACE IS A RESPONSIBILITY. GREEN SPACE IS AN EXPENSE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS CONCERN ME. FIRST OF ALL, IF THIS REFERENDUM PASSES IN NOVEMBER, THIS CITY AND MOST MUNICIPALITIES WILL BE DESPERATE FOR DIVERSE FORMS OF REVENUE. I THINK THE COMMISSION THAT ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE COUNTY HAD THE FORESIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S 153 ACRES, ALL OF IT PAINT CREEK, MR. CHOMSKY. TO REALLY DEVELOP IT, TO MAKE IT AN ATTRACTIVE ELEMENT TO THE CITY, ITS RESIDENTS AND THE TOURISTS TAKE SOME MONEY. IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY. THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THIS IS IT'S LIKE TO ME, IT'S BEEN WHAT'S THE MINIMUM AMOUNT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH MAINTAINING IT? I MEAN, GO OUT THERE. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOOD. WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THIS PROPERTY. IF THIS REFERENDUM PASSES, THE FIRST THING THAT GETS CUT ARE PARKS, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THE POLICE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THE FIRE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CUT THE WATER PLANT. AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN BUDGETS, MUNICIPAL BUDGETS ARE STRESSED, STRESSED PARKS SUFFER. IT'S IN PRESERVE, IT'S EFFECTIVELY IN PRESERVE. WE'RE SORT OF EATING OUR CAKE AND HAVE IT TO THE POTENTIAL INCOME FROM THIS PROPERTY COULD BE $1 MILLION OVER TEN YEARS. AND I DO NOT WANT TO DENY THE TAXPAYER THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARN THAT MONEY. THIS COMMISSION, A FEW HOURS AGO. OUR NEW CITY MANAGER CAME TO US. HE SAID HE DID 5% CUT ACROSS THE LINE, AND HE NEEDED ONE TENTH OF 1%. HE NEEDED THREE APPROXIMATELY $300,000 MORE TO MAKE IT WORK. AND MANY MEMBERS, SOME MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION, SAID NO. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE SO BLITHELY TURN OUR BACK ON POTENTIALLY $1 MILLION DEDICATED. THAT'S NOT $1 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S $1 MILLION TO TAKE CARE OF AND IMPROVE THIS PRESERVE, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC PIECE OF PROPERTY. I MEAN, WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO, I THINK I SAW IN THE BUDGET WE GET FROM THE HALF CENT SALES TAX, WE'RE I THINK WE'RE PROJECTING $2.6 MILLION. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT, MR. GIARDINO? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? ANYWAY, IT'S IT'S OVER $2 MILLION. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FOR TEN YEARS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME SIGN OF A GROUP 
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THAT'S GOING TO BE EVALUATING PROPERTIES IN THE CITY THAT WE WANT TO ACQUIRE. AND I WOULD BE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO PUT THIS 1.97 ACRE PARCEL ON THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION. NOW, MANY PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THERE ARE A LOT MORE ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE AND VALUABLE PIECES OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY THAN THIS. GO STAND THERE FOR 30 MINUTES. IT IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST STRETCHES OF HIGHWAY IN THIS CITY. I KNOCKED ON A WOMAN'S DOOR WHO BACKS UP TO POPPLETON CREEK. SHE WANTS TO DONATE HER PROPERTY. SHE SHOWED ME TWO DAYS BEFORE A TURTLE LAYING EGGS IN HER YARD. 
          I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PROPERTY WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING ACQUIRING AND NOT THIS. NOT THIS PARCEL THAT PROVIDES AND THE OPTIONS FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS FOR CLARIFICATION AS WELL? SO YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD USE THE HALF CENT SALES TAX FOR THE HANEY CREEK. OKAY. THE PIECE, THE 1.9. I'M SAYING IT'S IT'S VALUE SHOULD BE A ITS VALUE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THAT GROUP. WOULDN'T WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A REFERENDUM THOUGH? LEE I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I AM, I AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME, IF AT THE VERY LEAST BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR DRASTIC REDUCTION IN OUR AD VALOREM REVENUE. I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, COMMISSIONER RIDGE, BUT 64% OF VOTERS IN MARTIN COUNTY WANT MORE GREEN AND OPEN SPACE. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM THE AUTHORIZATION. BUT, WELL, 70% OF THE PEOPLE ORIGINALLY WANTED IT. THIS WANTED THIS. CORRECT. 
          AND GUESS WHAT? WE HAD A NEW REFERENDUM AND IT LOOKS LIKE TIMES HAVE CHANGED IN MARTIN COUNTY 2011. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOUR LIGHTS ON. THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. YEAH, I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER CROSS HAD COME HERE AND TALK TO US. AND IF MR. CROSS AND MR. BAGGETT OR THE CITY MANAGER HAD GOTTEN ANY OTHER INPUT FROM HIM SINCE WE PUT THIS TOGETHER. MA'AM, ARE YOU ASKING IF WE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER CROSS? YEAH, I THINK I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT EITHER. TWO MEETINGS AGO I THINK. YEAH. HE CAME HERE AND SPOKE TO YOU ALL. YEAH. AND HE ASKED YOU NOT TO MOVE FORWARD. MOVE FORWARD TO TO DO AS WE AS HIS BOARD WANTED TO DO IN 2011. CORRECT. 15 YEARS AGO. TIMES HAVE CHANGED IN 15 YEARS. 
          COMMISSIONER. JOB, YOUR LIGHTS ON. YES. OKAY. NUMBER ONE, AND I'M SORRY, IN TALKING TO THESE INDIVIDUALS, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ONE WOMAN WANTED TO DONATE HER PROPERTY SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUY IT. THAT WOULD BE A DONATION TO THE CITY. THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN US BUYING IT. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. AND THAT'S GREAT. IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PROCURE THAT. 
          NUMBER TWO, AS THE MAYOR SAID IN 2011, THE CITIZENS DECIDED TO APPROVE THIS REFERENDUM, BUT 2011 IS 15 YEARS AGO AND A LOT HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS AS MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED, MORE GREEN SPACE WAS LOST. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. WE HAVE TWO THINGS. THERE IS, I BELIEVE, ONE ENTITY THAT WANTS TO PURCHASE OR LEASE THE PROPERTY, ETC. BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DETRIMENTAL TO GREEN SPACE, WHICH IT IS RIGHT THERE. THERE'S THAT PARKING LOT AND THEN THERE'S THE HANEY CREEK. 
          SO IN THE COURSE OF WANTING TO GAIN $1 MILLION OVER TEN YEARS FOR THE CITY, WE WOULD BE JEOPARDIZING THE OTHER GREEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE. THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND YES, AS THE MAYOR SAID, PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE. WE CAN'T REALLY WE NEED TO ACQUIRE AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE. AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE AGAIN, IT'S GOING OUT FOR REFERENDUM. THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS THAT THEY OWN IT, THEY WILL BE MAKING THIS DECISION, NOT US. SO I'M ASKING FOR US TO MOVE IT FORWARD, TO GET IT ONTO THE BALLOT AND LET THE CITIZENS DECIDE. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TAKING THAT DECISION AWAY FROM THEM. THEY COULD GO TO THE BALLOT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THAT OUR JOB IS NOT TO KEEP THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM THEM. IT'S TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENT? THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS, AND I APOLOGIZE. COMMISSIONER CLARK, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WEREN'T FINISHED. COMMISSIONER RIDGE FLIPPED HIS LIGHT ON. SO I'M GOING TO GO COMMISSIONER CLARK AND THEN COMMISSIONER RICH. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE STAFF MAKE SURE THAT THEY TALK TO COMMISSIONER CROSS, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME UPDATED INFORMATION. AND I ALSO 
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WANTED TO FIND OUT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ONE BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING ON FOR NOVEMBER. IF THERE'S ANY COST ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT THEY. 1 OR 2 ITEMS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE ON THE THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, I MEAN, THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. YEAH. WHAT WHAT THE COST IS TO THE CITY FOR FOR BRINGING THESE TWO BALLOT AMENDMENTS TO THE. YEAH, I, I, I JUST GOT THE NOD FROM MARY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT THAT THERE IS NO COST TO ADD IT TO A REGULAR ELECTION. IT'S JUST IF WE HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL ELECTION, THAT'S WHERE IT COULD GET. AND I'VE HEARD ESTIMATES OF ABOUT 20 GRAND THAT WHAT YOU'VE HEARD. YEAH. 
          TO DO A SPECIAL ELECTION. AND THEN I'VE ALSO HEARD THERE'S NEGATIVES OF THAT. YOU WON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A TURNOUT, YOU KNOW. OKAY, ON A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER CLARK? YES, SIR. DO YOU? ONE SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER RICH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER RICH RAISED THE THE CONCERN THAT WE WERE DOING THIS IN A NON-PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. HAS THE CITY EVER DONE A REFERENDUM IN A NON-PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? I DON'T KNOW, OFF. I YEAH, I DON'T KNOW 2011. NO. OH, THERE YOU GO. 2011. THAT'D BE. 15 SO THAT THIS WAS DONE IN A NON-PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR BECAUSE YOU HAD 2008 WAS THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR. SO THE ANSWER IS YES. THANKS, MIKE. 
          APPRECIATE YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. YEAH. SO THE CITY IS OVER PARKS AND NOT WE HAVE ENORMOUS MORE GREEN SPACE THAN EVEN OUR OWN COMP PLAN ASKED FOR. HAS A. HAS THE CITY ACQUIRED MORE GREEN SPACE SINCE 2011, OR HAVE WE REDUCED THE INVENTORY OF GREEN SPACE? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANY GREEN SPACE SINCE THEN. THIS HANEY CREEK PROJECT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST LARGE ACQUISITION. MILTON, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YES. SO WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GUESSING. NO WE'RE NOT. WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT THE THAT HANEY CREEK WOULD BE THE LAST LARGE SCALE GREEN SPACE ACQUISITION THAT WE'VE HAD. THE CITY ATTORNEY LIGHT IS ON TO. HE MIGHT HAVE A CALLER. OKAY. I MEAN, YEAH, THESE ARE HUGE. BUT YEAH. ARE THERE A COUPLE ACRES HERE OR THERE THAT WE ACQUIRED? I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND. 
          I JUST READ RESOLUTION 35, WHERE THE COMMISSION HAD INSTRUCTED THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. IT WITH THE TRAILHEAD AT HANEY CREEK, BUT ALSO TO MOVING FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING THE LAND, THE VACANT LAND AND UNDEVELOPED LAND IN AVONLEA, WHICH I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I HAD STARTED THAT YOU GUYS ALSO AUTHORIZED THE CITY STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING THAT ON A. IN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE COUNTY, AND I HAD A DONE SO I, I HAD APPLIED TO NOMINATE THOSE PARCELS IN AVONLEA THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED TO THE COUNTY, AND I WENT BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAND. THE BOARD COMMITTEE AT THE COUNTY AND. IT WENT KIND OF UNEXPECTED. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO RE REEVALUATE THE NOMINATED PARCELS, I THINK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          SEPTEMBER 21ST IS THEIR NEXT MEETING. AND SO I'LL BE GOING BACK TO THE COUNTY. THIS ELOK COMMITTEE AND WILL BE TRYING TO GET A RANKING AND AN EVALUATION FROM THEM THAT WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL COLLABORATE ON PURCHASING OR ACQUIRING THOSE PROPERTIES. WITH THE CITY. WE, AS YOU SAW UP THERE ALREADY, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ALREADY COLLABORATED THROUGHOUT HANEY CREEK. A LOT OF THE LANDS WE ALREADY OWN 5050 WITH THE COUNTY. THERE'S A PORTION THAT THE COUNTY OWNS, BUT WE ACTUALLY OPERATE THE DOG PARK ON THEIR LAND. IT'S A, IT'S A. AND WE ALSO MAINTAIN THE TRAILHEAD WITH BATHROOMS AND SO FORTH. AND THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BAKER ROAD GOING TOWARDS THE NORTH. AND SO WE ALREADY HAVE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND COUNTY STAFF HAD APPROACHED US FIRST ABOUT IT. SO THAT'S WE WERE ONLY RESPONDING TO THE COUNTY REQUESTING TO CONSIDER A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, WHICH WE DID. SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT IN CASE YOU GUYS HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT WE YOU DID VOTE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS, AND WE WERE TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT WITH COLLABORATIVELY. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S TAKING A SLOW AMOUNT OF TIME. I'VE MADE CONTACT WITH THE OWNERS OF ALL THE PARCELS, AND THEY ALL ARE INTERESTED. SO. AS FAR AS THE UNDEVELOPED, A 
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LOT OF THEM HAVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR COMMERCIAL TYPE PROPERTIES. AND SO. HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYWHERE. WE HAVEN'T EVEN DONE EVALUATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO TRY AND GET THE COUNTY TO COLLABORATE WITH US. OBVIOUSLY, THEN WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR THE ALL THE PARCELS, WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR 50% OF IT, AND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IN HANEY CREEK. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. THANKS TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS. YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER RICH, YOUR LIGHTS ON. AND, MR. BECK, YOU WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. BUT EVEN IF THE COUNTY DID NOT WANT TO COOPERATE WITH US, WE COULD TAKE OUR HALF CENT SALES TAX REVENUE AND BUY SOME. SOME OF THESE AVONLEIGH PROPERTIES APPARENTLY ARE QUITE ATTRACTIVE IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY. SO WE DON'T NEED THEIR COOPERATION TO RECOGNIZE THEIR VALUE AND ACQUIRE THEM FOR FOR THE CITY. YOU ARE CORRECT. YES. AND I AND I WILL SAY THAT. SO WHAT WITH THE E BLOCK, YOU NOMINATE THE PARCEL. AND AND THERE WERE NUMEROUS OTHER PARCELS THAT WERE BEING NOMINATED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND WHEN I WENT FORWARD, I WAS THE LAST I, I SAT THERE FOR A FEW HOURS WAITING TO BE CALLED LIKE, JUST LIKE OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. AND THEY VOTED. I THINK THEY WENT BEYOND THE COMMITTEE, WENT BEYOND THEIR POWER, AND THEY VOTED TO NOT CONSIDER OUR PROPERTIES AT ALL AND NOT RECOMMEND OR RECOMMEND ANYTHING TO THE COMMISSION. AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE COUNTY STAFF HAD MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY NEEDED TO RANK, EVALUATE AND RANK, JUST LIKE THE OTHER PARCELS, WHICH THEY DID NOT. THEY DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BLOCK IT FROM GOING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK BEFORE THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO RANK IT HOWEVER WAY THEY WANT TO RANK IT, AND IT MIGHT BE A RECOMMENDATION OR A NON RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION. SO THERE WOULD BE TWO MEETINGS THAT WE WOULD GO FORWARD AT THAT DURING THAT PROCESS. AND COMMISSIONER RICH IS CORRECT. YOU GUYS GAVE US AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING IT, BUT YOU ALSO TOLD US TO TRY AND DO IT WITH THE COUNTY. SO I'M TRYING TO RUN OUT ALL THE STEPS WITH COLLABORATING WITH THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, IF IF WE HAVE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE 25 MILLION OVER THE YEARS, THERE'S THESE PARCELS. ONE OF THEM'S LIKE FIVE ACRES. I MEAN, AND THEY'VE GOT FULL DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL RIGHTS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO USE UP A MAJORITY OF OUR MONEY. BUT IT WAS A FAIR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE WE'RE TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. SO WHY WOULD WE NOT COLLABORATE WITH THEM? RIGHT. I DON'T I MEAN, WE PAY BOTH. WHY SHOULD THE COUNTY HAVE THE ENTIRE CONTROL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT WE REPRESENT? WELL, I'M I'M JUST RUNNING OUT THE STEPS THAT YOU GUYS ALREADY INSTRUCTED STAFF TO DO WITH THE COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY, IT JUST GOT DELAYED SOME. BUT THE NEXT MEETING, THEY ONLY MEET QUARTERLY. THEIR NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. BUT THAT'S NOT THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE ONLY AN ADVISORY BOARD. THEN IT GOES TO THE COMMISSION. BUT THEY NEVER REALLY EVALUATED WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. SO IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THEM, TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT'LL SUBSEQUENTLY GO TO THE TO THE COMMISSION WITH OR WITH NOT WITHOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND THEN WE CAN ASSESS AT THAT POINT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO IT WITHOUT THEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING AT IT FINANCIALLY, IF WE'RE SPENDING HALF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THOSE ACRES, THAT MEANS WE CAN USE THE OTHER HALF FOR OTHER ITEMS LIKE PARCELS THAT COMMISSIONER RICH'S MENTIONING. YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO A TRAILHEAD IN HEANEY CREEK THAT WOULD COULD COME FROM THOSE FUNDS. AND IF WE SPEND IT ALL ON PURCHASING THE AVONLEA ACRES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A LOT LEFT ELSEWHERE. YEAH. SO AND, AND WHEN I WAS SO WHEN I WAS AT THE LOC, THEY, THE, THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF STARTED DOING AN EVALUATION ON THE DIFFERENT PARCELS IN AVONLEA. AND I DO RECALL ONE OF THEM, PARTICULARLY THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL THAT, THAT THEY HAD EVALUATED AS BEING VERY HIGHLY SENSITIVE. IT HAD A LOT OF ANIMALS AND, AND PLANT LIFE THAT WAS VERY VALUABLE ON THERE THERE MATRIX ON HOW THEY EVALUATE IT. SO THANKS. WE APPRECIATE YOU, MIKE. YOUR LIGHT WAS ON. SIR LEE DESCRIBED THE TECHNICALITIES OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A GREAT A GREAT STRATEGY ON HOW TO LEVERAGE THE DOLLARS COUNTY AND CITY TOGETHER TO GET THE MAXIMUM IMPACT. AND WE WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOCK UP AND, AND THEIR DECISION, BUT WE ARE NOT ABANDONING OUR STRATEGY TO, AGAIN, LEVERAGE THESE DOLLARS, AS YOU SUGGESTED. SO BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ARE MAXIMIZING THE IMPACT OF THE HALF CENT SALES TAX. THANK YOU. MIKE, DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER OR. OH, I JUST WANT TO SAY I WHAT I DON'T 
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UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THE. FOR SOME COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE GIVING THE CHOICE TO THE RESIDENTS. THEY CAN VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT. IT'S A RESOLUTION REFERENDUM, REFERENDUM. THEY CAN VOTE AGAINST THIS REFERENDUM IF THEY WANT TO DECIDE TO TAKE THE MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE TEN YEARS, OR THEY COULD VOTE TO SAY, NO, WE WANT TO KEEP GREEN SPACE, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ADJACENT TO THAT GREEN SPACE. AND I MEAN, WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THEIR HANDS. THEY COULD MAKE THE DECISION. 
          IT'S THEIR MONEY. THEY CAN DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO LEASE THE LAND, OR THEY CAN DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO SAVE IT FOR GREEN SPACE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT EASY. I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO COMMISSIONER CLARK, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 40, 2026 FOR THE HANEY CREEK REFERENDUM WITH THE PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE, AS POSTED IN OUR AGENDA PACKET. AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET A SECOND. WE CAN GET A VOTE ON THE RECORD UP HERE TONIGHT. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. AND THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. LEE, DO YOU NEED TO READ THE BALLOT LANGUAGE AGAIN OR IS IT. NO. I GUESS I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE MOTION. THE MOTION IS TO RETURN RESOLUTION 40-2026 WITH THE PROPOSED BALLOT LANGUAGE. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT TO COME BACK WITH IT. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY, SO THERE'S A MOTION BY MAYOR REED AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOB. ARE THERE ANY I GUESS I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR. NOW WE GO TO OUR CLERK, COMMISSIONER. CLERK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          RICH. NO. MAYOR. READ. YES. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO COME BACK WITH THIS LANGUAGE AGAIN BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GETS PUT ON THE BALLOT ON THE 17TH, 18TH, AND THEN THE PUBLIC WILL BE HERE AND THE PUBLIC. AND IF WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AND THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE TO VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO WE'RE BACK IN A WEEK. YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE BACK IN A WEEK. THAT'LL BE TEN DAYS BETWEEN THE. SO MOTION PASSES 3 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER RICH DISSENTING TO BRING IT BACK. 
          JUST TO BRING BACK THIS LANGUAGE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THIS EVENING FROM COMMISSIONERS? I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS
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