Sep 14, 2026 Regular City Commission Meeting

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M EULA CLARK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, CALLING TO ORDER THE REGULAR

[ROLL CALL]

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REID HERE. COMMISSIONER RICH. HERE. THANKS. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SMALL CEREMONY WE JUST EXPERIENCED SEPTEMBER 11TH. EVERYTHING WILL BE ABSOLUTELY SEAMLESS. THERE WILL BE NO MISTAKES. SO EVERYBODY WHO HAS A ROLE IN THIS WILL, WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. AS SOON AS EVERYBODY STARTS TO DO THEIR PART. IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA, WE HAVE AN INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE COLOR GUARD. THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR SPECIAL ARTS MOMENT. WHO WILL BE DOING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO RUN RIGHT INTO A PROCLAMATION REGARDING PATRIOT'S DAY. SO JUST BE AWARE AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE CHAPLAIN OF THE STUART POLICE

[INVOCATION]

HAIM SOLOMON. AND HE WAS A VERY STRONG. BUSINESSMAN IN THE AMERICAN SOCIETY. AND HE CAME IN AND HE DONATED MOST OF HIS OWN PERSONAL FORTUNE, ALONG WITH COLLECTING FROM OTHER JEWISH MERCHANTS TO IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE BATTLE OF YORKTOWN, THE ARMY AT THE BATTLE OF YORKTOWN. AND IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, AT 4:00, WE'D PROBABLY BE HAVING TEA AND CRUMPETS AND ALL THESE FINE FOLKS UP HERE ON THE DAIS WOULD BE WEARING POWDERED WIGS IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THAT JEWISH BUSINESSMAN THAT CAME AND SAVED THIS NATION AT THAT MOMENT. AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TO SPEAK OF THE JEWISH CITIZENS THAT THAT FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY. SO WE NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT AT THIS ANTI-SEMITISM SENTIMENT WE HAVE AND REALIZE THAT WE OWE OUR JEWISH FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS A GREAT DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR BRINGING THIS NATION TOGETHER. LET'S GO BEFORE THE LORD OUR GOD AND OUR FATHER, GREAT CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. YOU'VE MADE US SUCH A DIVERSE NATION. YOU BROUGHT SO MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES AND INTO THIS PLACE FOR YOUR PURPOSE. WE KNOW THAT YOU YOU HAD A PLAN FOR WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS TO DO. IT'S NOT JUST A NATIONALIST PLAN. IT'S A DIVINE MISSION THAT WE'RE ON TO, TO, TO BE AN EXAMPLE TO THIS WORLD. GIVE US THE STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. HELP US TO TO STOP THE NOISE AND LISTEN TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. LORD, GUIDE AND DIRECT US IN ALL THAT WE DO.

DRAW US CLOSER TO YOU. AND LET'S ONCE MORE, FATHER, HELP US TO LET'S ONCE MORE MAKE THIS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL THIS WE PRAY IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME, LORD. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PRESENT PRESENTATION OF THE COLORS. COLOR. GUARD. PRESENT THE COLORS.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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OH, SAY, CAN YOU SEE AS THE DAWN'S EARLY. LIGHT. WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT THE START OF LAST GLEAMING. WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS THROUGH THE PARK MIGHT O'ER THE LAND WE ARE. WERE SO GALLANTLY STREAMING. AND THE ROCKETS RED GLARE, THE BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR. GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE. OH, SAY, DOES THAT STAR SPANGLED AND. YET WAVE. O'ER THE LAND. OF THE. THANK YOU. REMAIN IN

[PROCLAMATIONS]

THEY'LL COME UP AND THEN. OR IT'LL BE READ BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. PATRIOT DAY AND DAY OF SERVICE. REMEMBRANCE, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2026. WHEREAS, ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001, THE UNITED STATES SUFFERED A DEVASTATING TERRORIST ATTACK RESULTING IN LOSS OF NEARLY 3000 INNOCENT LIVES AND FOREVER CHANGING OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS WE HONOR THE COURAGE AND SACRIFICE OF FIRST RESPONDERS, EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, AND ORDINARY CITIZENS WHO ACTED WITH EXTRAORDINARY HEROISM IN THE FACE OF UNIMAGINABLE TRAGEDY. AND WHEREAS, PATRIOT DAY IN THE NATIONAL DAY OF SERVICE AND REMEMBRANCE HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED TO COMMEMORATE THE VICTIMS AND TO PROMOTE UNITY, REFLECTION IN ACTS OF SERVICE IN THEIR MEMORY. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF STUART ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO PAUSE AND REMEMBRANCE, REFLECT ON THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF OUR NATION AND ENGAGE IN ACTS OF KINDNESS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE AND TRIBUTE TO THOSE WE LOST. NOW, THEREFORE, I ULLAH R CLARK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2026 AS PATRIOT DAY AND DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. AND AT THIS TIME, I ASK ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS TO COME DOWN SO THAT I CAN PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BIG SPEECH FROM BOTH OF OUR CHIEFS, STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, CHIEF, I JUST MISSED IT. WE HAVE OUR COLOR GUARD SET IN PLACE. COLOR GUARD POST THE COLORS. THANK YOU. CAMPBELL.

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THANK YOU. CAN YOU TAKE A PICTURE WITH DOCTOR ALLEN AND I, PLEASE? I KNOW I THINK LAST WEEK OR SOMETHING. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS LET'S HAVE A SPEECH FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF. OKAY. SO WE ALWAYS WE ALWAYS HEAR THROUGHOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR, YOU KNOW, NEVER FORGET THAT'S THAT'S THE MANTRA FOR NINE OVER 11, RIGHT? SO JUST SO ALL OF US HERE NEVER FORGETS, I'D LIKE TO SAY THE NUMBERS FROM 911, 343 FIREFIGHTERS WERE KILLED THAT DAY FROM THE FDNY. 37 OFFICERS WERE KILLED FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY POLICE. 26 OFFICERS WERE KILLED FROM THE NYPD. AND WE JUST ACQUIRED THIS THIS POSTER IN FRONT OF THE DAIS HERE FOR EVERYBODY TO COME LOOK AT. BUT THIS POSTER SHOWS THE OF THE FACES OF ALL 343 FIREFIGHTERS THAT DIED THAT DAY. AND IT'S IT'S IT'S VERY POWERFUL TO LOOK AT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I'LL JUST BE BRIEF. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION. AND TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE 343 FIREMEN ALONE. THAT'S THAT'S MORE FIREFIGHTERS WERE KILLED IN ONE DAY ON NINE OVER 11 THAN THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY OF STUART. SO THAT'S A A TELLING NUMBER OF THE LOSSES THEY SUFFERED. AND AFTER 32 YEARS OF SERVICE, YOU KNOW, WE HONOR WHAT OUR FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, WENT THROUGH IN NEW YORK CITY. NOW IT'S A MILLION MILES AWAY FROM HERE OR 1200 OR WHATEVER THE ACTUAL MILEAGE IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SERVE WITH HONOR AND DISTINCTION HERE IN THE STUART POLICE DEPARTMENT, STUART FIRE RESCUE. AND IT'S OUR HONOR TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. 247 THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THESE AGENCIES STAND POISED TO TO DO ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SERVE. THANK YOU. AND TO BOTH OF YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US ABOUT NINE OVER 11 OVER THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE? YES. YEAH. OPERATIONS CHIEF HONEYCUTT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HE HE ORGANIZES THE EVENT EACH YEAR AND HE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THAT. BUT HE DOES A GREAT JOB UNIFYING THE POLICE AND FIRE RESPONSE TO THAT NINE OVER 11 MEMORIAL WALK ON THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE. IT'S BEEN GOING ON AT LEAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS, AND JOHN'S BEEN ORGANIZING IT ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS FROM FRIDAY, BUT SEVERAL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS WERE THERE. MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE THERE. IN ADDITION TO THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS AND THEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT FOR A WALK ON THE BRIDGE OR ON FLAGLER OR JOAN JEFFERSON, AND THEY SAID, CAN WE JUST JOIN? AND THEY JUST JUMPED IN LINE WITH US AND WALKED OVER THE BRIDGE FROM FLAGLER PARK TO NORTH RIVER SHORES AND THEN BACK. SO 3.43 MILES, RIGHT, 3.43 MILES THERE AND BACK ON A, YOU KNOW, COMFORTABLE 85 DEGREE FRIDAY, YOU KNOW, FRIDAY MORNING. SO BUT WE APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS CHIEF HONEYCUTT FOR FOR ORGANIZING IT AND GETTING EVERYONE TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND JUST PLEASE, LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THANK

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THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE READ THE PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS CELEBRATED ANNUALLY FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH TO RECOGNIZE THE RICH HISTORIES, CULTURES, TRADITIONS, AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS. AND WHEREAS, HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS HAVE MADE LASTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR NATION THROUGH THEIR LEADERSHIP, SERVICE, INNOVATION, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ARTS, EDUCATION, AND DEDICATION TO THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND. WHEREAS, THE HISPANIC, HISPANIC, AND LATINO COMMUNITY STRENGTHENS THE CULTURAL FABRIC OF THE CITY OF STUART AND CONTRIBUTES GREATLY TO ITS ECONOMIC GROWTH, DIVERSITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND WHEREAS, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THOSE. THESE CONTRIBUTIONS HONOR THE GENERATIONS WHO CAME BEFORE US AND TO ENCOURAGE GREATER APPRECIATION AND UNDERSTANDING AMONG ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ULA R CLARK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2026 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. THANK YOU, MR. MERCADO. AND DO. AND HE HAS A LONG SPEECH ABOUT ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. BUT PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UNDERNEATH THE SEAL. THANK YOU.

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LIVE LATIN MUSIC, SPANISH FOOD, THE. ALL. I'VE INVITED RESIDENTS FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TO BRING THEIR BIG FLAG AND FREE ADMISSION FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A BANNER AND THEIR FLAG. SO I WELCOME EVERYONE. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CONSIDERATION. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE EMPLOYEES AT THE CITY OF STUART, AND OF COURSE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. RICARDO. OUR NEXT ITEM IS OUR SERVICE AWARD.

[PRESENTATIONS]

[COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS]

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LET ME MOVE IT TO ANOTHER. MADAM MAYOR. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE THINGS, SO LET'S HOLD ON.

THANK YOU. WELL, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THIS ITEM. SOMEBODY IS ASKING TO MOVE IT EARLIER IN THE AGENDA. SOMEBODY'S SAYING THAT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE STAFF AND SOMETHING IS GOING ON. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, COMMISSIONER RICH? I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED BY THE MOST ARDENT SUPPORTERS OF THIS TO AND BECAUSE THEY WERE UNABLE TO BE HERE, THEY ASKED THAT IT BE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. AND IN LIGHT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT SEEMS MOST APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME. THIS IS A TIME WHEN YOU CAN MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE AGENDA DURING YOUR TIME. AS SOMEONE ASKING TO PUT THIS TO A TIME CERTAIN OR PUT IT INDEFINITELY, WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY.

THERE'S A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 14. BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WAS TABLED FROM JUNE 22ND TO TODAY TO POSTPONE THAT INDEFINITELY.

THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ITEM? THERE'S NO SECOND TO POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY, OR IS THERE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO A CERTAIN DATE, OR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO A DATE IN THE FUTURE INDEFINITELY. MAKES IT SOUND.

IT'LL NEVER MAKE IT WAY BACK TO THE AGENDA. OKAY, I WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. WE JUST WANT TO MOVE IT TO A DATE. NO MOTION ON THE TABLE NOW. SO OKAY, SO SHE CAN MAKE A MOTION, BUT YOU HADN'T SAID THAT THAT MOTION FAILED. SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I'M JUST I WAS I WAS JUST TRYING TO TO VERIFY. SO THERE'S THERE'S NO SECOND ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY. CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, PLEASE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ORDINANCE 2552 2026 BE POSTPONED TO A DATE IN THE FUTURE TO BE DETERMINED WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CAN ADDRESS IT. YES. THANK YOU. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOUR MOTION THEN. CAN I GUESS IS THAT OKAY IF I ASK? YES, SURE. I WOULD DO THAT FOR AGENDA ITEM EIGHT AND NINE THEN AS WELL. BECAUSE IF OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT'S NOT HERE, WHY ARE WE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE TWO AGENDA ITEMS YET? WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THE CHICKEN ORDINANCE. I AGREE. ANY OTHER OKAY. OKAY. HOLD ON A SECOND. YEAH. I'M GOING TO REDO MY MOTION. PERFECT. IF YOU'RE IF IF YOU'RE DOING ANYTHING ON HERE, I WOULD I WOULD JUST ADD ANYTHING IN HERE FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST LOOKING AT. YEAH. WE HAVE MAYOR IF I MAY BE HEARD ON A COUPLE. YES. WHAT IS THAT, SIR? MAY I BE HEARD ON A COUPLE OF THEM? YES, YES. SO NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE ARE GOING TO BE

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YES. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? MISS A MOTION TO TAKE THREE ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA UNTIL OCTOBER 26TH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY PERSONS. MADAM MAYOR. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES. IF WE HAVE NO PUBLIC I, I DON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION AS IT STANDS, BUT I GUESS NO, I, I'VE BEEN THE DECIDING VOTE APPARENTLY ON THE THE BACKYARD CHICKENS FOR A FEW MONTHS HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SPOILER ALERT. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT IT THAT THAT PROBABLY DON'T FIRM UP THE DECISION, BUT I DON'T FRANKLY, I NEED THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HERE. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORDINANCE. I DON'T HAVE I HAVE DIRECTION FOR STAFF, BUT I BELIEVE THAT COULD BE RELAYED IN MY COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHICKENS, I PERSONALLY I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS ON ITEM EIGHT AND NINE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR EITHER. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I BELIEVE IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING. ON ITEM NUMBER 14, AND I THINK MY COMMENTS MIGHT HELP CLEAR IT UP IN THE FUTURE. ON WHAT DECISION THE CITY OF STUART MIGHT MAKE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, AND AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS MOTION. BUT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WITH US FOR ANY PARTICULAR ITEM, YOU CAN ALWAYS LEAVE COMMENTS, EVEN IF AN ITEM WILL BE COMING UP AT A LATER DATE. YOU CAN ALWAYS LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE TODAY AND YOU WANT TO LEAVE YOUR COMMENT, IF THE ITEM DOES IS TAKEN OFF THE THEY CAN STILL LEAVE THEIR COMMENT. LEGAL. IF AN ITEM EVER GETS. THERE ARE ALSO FREE TO EMAIL. THE COMMISSIONERS CAN ALSO, AT ANY TIME, COLLECTIVELY OR INDIVIDUALLY. OKAY, SO CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE READ. THIS IS.

COMMISSIONER MATHESON IS IN HIS. THE MIDDLE OF HIS COMMENTS HE MADE A MOTION RELATED TO ITEM.

WELL, HE CAN'T MAKE. 14 AND THEN HOLD ON. AND THEN THAT WAS I'M CONDUCTING THIS MEETING.

AND THAT WAS THAT DID NOT GO ANYWHERE. AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT, COMMISSIONER GIOVANNI HAS NOW MADE A MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER REED TO REMOVE ITEMS EIGHT, NINE AND 14 TO

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OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE ITEM AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM 14 IS BEING TABLED FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES ONLY. SO IF WE'RE TABLING SOMETHING FOR DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE TWO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD FOR DIRECTION FOR STAFF. BUT I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE. AND I HAVE COORDINATED WITH DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT ALONG DIXIE HIGHWAY, THE AUTO SHOP THAT DOES REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. ARE THEY GOING TO GET PARKING RELIEF AS WELL THAT THEY ARE. WILL THAT COME AT A LATER DATE? THEY ARE PLANNING TO BRING THAT ITEM IN OCTOBER NEXT MONTH. GOTCHA. IT JUST KEPT GETTING DELAYED AND I. THINK JEALOUSY.

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OKAY. I SAW THAT, COMMISSIONER MATHESON. I DON'T NEED ITEM NUMBER 14 TO BE TABLED. I DON'T NEED OUR DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HERE. I'VE. I'VE MORE DIRECTION FOR CITY STAFF, AND I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT NOW. YOU JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT UP FRONT. YES. MY INITIAL COMMENTS WERE THAT I THINK PEOPLE WERE WAITING. THE CITY COMMISSION OVER THE PAST FEW MEETINGS HAS. YOU KNOW, HAD FEEDBACK THAT SOME OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE MOST PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WERE WAITING FOR WERE AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. OKAY. I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH HAVING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14 ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND DISCUSSING AND SHARING MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. OKAY. THEY, THEY, THE AGENDA, THE, THE, WE HAVE A MOTION STILL ON THE, ON THE UNLESS THERE'S NO WITHDRAWAL, BUT THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE MOTION. COULD YOU PLEASE SAY THE MOTION THAT'S BEEN CHANGED AND THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN AGREED TO. THE AMENDED MOTION IS AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT, NINE AND 14 POSTPONED TO OCTOBER 12TH. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS MOTION? OKAY. WE HAVE TWO LIGHTS ON, COMMISSIONER READ. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY.

MAYBE IF THEY'RE TABLED FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN, BUT MAYBE STILL ALLOW DISCUSSION TO GO ON BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW WE ALREADY KNOW ONE BOARD MEMBER DOESN'T SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM 14 REGARDLESS, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO TABLE IT INDEFINITELY. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS FOR THE MOTION, THOUGH. LEGAL. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE YOU WANTING ME TO GIVE AN OPINION ON COMMISSIONER REED'S COMMENTS? YES. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU ASKING FOR ANYTHING? YOU CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK I THINK THE RESOLUTIONS FOR SUBJECT MATTER EIGHT AND NINE NEED TO BE POSTPONED TO. YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE. AS FAR AS THE BACKYARD CHICKENS, I. THE BOARD MAJORITY OF THE BOARD CAN SAY WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON IT, CHANGE IT FROM STILL STILL MOTION TO TABLE IT TO THE DATE CERTAIN, BUT HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT TONIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO YOU'RE ADDING SOMETHING, YOU'RE POSTPONING SOMETHING, BUT ALSO ADDING SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA.

SO I THINK YOU OUGHT TO HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE ON THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE YOU REQUESTING? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EIGHT AND NINE TABLED AND THEN 14. JUST STAY ON THE AGENDA AND MOVE IT UP FRONT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. SO COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONER MATHESON CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ON WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR AS A TABLING FOR ITEM EIGHT AND NINE UNTIL OCTOBER 12TH. CORRECT? YES. AND AND AS WELL AS AGENDA ITEM 14, BUT ALLOW D AND D THIS EVENING. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH AGENDA ITEM 14 IS WE WILL NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION BECAUSE THE PRESENTER. WHICH IS FINE. I THINK THIS BOARD MAJORITY FEELS HOW THEY FEEL ALREADY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THERE WERE QUESTIONS AND A PRESENTATION WAS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WERE QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING. SO AGAIN YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT.

THERE'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION BECAUSE OF MISS COOGLER IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

OKAY. AND I'D LIKE TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THAT AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND. SO I'LL AMEND THE MOTION ONCE AGAIN, AGENDA EIGHT AND NINE TO BE TABLED. AGENDA

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SOME MOTION A SECOND. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT AMENDED MOTION? AND SECOND CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THAT MOTION TABLE TO A DATE? CERTAIN OF TEN, 12 ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE AND ITEM 14 BE BROUGHT BACK FOR DISCUSSION OR, I'M SORRY, BE BROUGHT BEFORE JUST FOR DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT AND MAKE IT BEFORE COMMISSION ACTION. AND THE VOTE WILL BE ON OCTOBER 12TH. I CAN SAY THAT OVER AGAIN IF, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WE'VE CHANGED IT SEVERAL TIMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. IS ARE YOU READY, CLARK? YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER.

YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES. COMMISSIONER. REID. YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. MAYOR.

CLARK. I DON'T LIKE ITEM EIGHT AND NINE BEING CHANGED, BUT I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT. YES.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER REED. OH, SORRY. COMMISSIONER MATHESON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REED. NO MORE. I'LL. I'LL SAVE MINE FOR ACTION ITEMS. I HAVE NO COMMENTS. MADAM MAYOR. I HAVE NO COMMENTS, MADAM. OKAY. YOU HAVE NO COMMENTS. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS WEEK IS CONSTITUTION WEEK AND ON THE 17TH, JESSICA THARP. WELL, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS ARRANGED FOR THE READING OF THE CONSTITUTION AT 3 P.M. ON THURSDAY THE 17TH AT THE. AT THE BLAKE LIBRARY. SO PLEASE COME OUT AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND PARTICIPATE IN THE READING OF THE CONSTITUTION FOR CONSTITUTION WEEK. I WILL BE AT JD PARKER ON THAT SAME DAY ON THE 17TH TO SPEAK TO THE FIFTH GRADE. WITH REGARD TO THE CONSTITUTION AND MANY PERSONS HAVE BEEN GOING INTO OUR SCHOOLS THIS WEEK, ESPECIALLY. ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE SCHOOLS TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. THIS WEEK ON THE 16TH OF SEPTEMBER. THERE IS A CELEBRATION AT 10 A.M. AT THE PORT MAYACA CEMETERY ON KENNA HIGHWAY WEST AT THE BORDER OF MARTIN AND PALM BEACH COUNTY, AND THAT WILL BE TO CELEBRATE THE STORM OF 1928. EVERYONE THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME OUT ON THAT DAY. THEY HAVE THE STUDENTS FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOLS THAT COME IN BUSSES.

THEY HAVE SENIORS FROM MANY SENIOR CENTERS AND MANY GROUPS AND CHURCHES THAT COME OUT TO THAT EVENT. SO PLEASE COME OUT TO THAT EVENT ON SEPTEMBER 16TH TO REMEMBER THE STORM OF 1928 THAT DESTROYED THE GLADES AREA. AND MANY PEOPLE WERE PLACED IN UNMARKED GRAVES. AND ONE OF THE MEMORIAL BURIAL SITES IS OUT THERE AT THE PORT MAYACA CEMETERY ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND AT 5:30 P.M. THE MARTIN COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION WILL FINALLY, AFTER MANY, MANY YEARS, BE HAVING A GROUNDBREAKING. AT ONE 900 SOUTHWEST CITRUS BOULEVARD FOR THE NEW FAIRGROUNDS. WOW. SO THIS IS SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026, 5:30 P.M. 19100 SOUTHWEST CITRUS BOULEVARD AND THE MARTIN COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION AND OTHERS WOULD LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT TO THAT EVENT AND TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEM. MY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT. I HAVE

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MILTON ISN'T HERE. BUT THAT'S OKAY. ANGEL WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I KNOW THIS IS OFF THE AGENDA, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. IT'S BEEN A GOOD 25 YEARS WAITING TO RETIRE SOON. YEAH, I DON'T BLAME YOU. FIVE YEARS. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT 515, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A NOTE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CLERK HAS DONE ANYTHING OR PUT ANY NEW NOTES OUTSIDE, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC COME UP TO GIVE COMMENTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S RESPECTFUL. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ABRIDGE ANYBODY'S RIGHTS OR ANY FREE SPEECH, BUT WE CAN ALSO REALLY REGULATE THE TIME AND PLACE AND MANNER OF HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE IN THESE CHAMBERS. SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE AND TRY TO USE THEIR TIME IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION EXPEDITIOUSLY AND JUDICIOUSLY USE IT FOR THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A SIGNAL TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REMOVE ANYONE. WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING AND PROVIDING GOOD INPUT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LISTEN AND THAT WE FOLLOW UP ON THE ITEMS THAT YOU, YOU BRING TO US. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. THAT'S IT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS.

[COMMENTS BY CITY MANAGER]

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

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[COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC (Non-Agenda Related) (3 Minutes Max.)]

WE'LL BE BREAKING FOR THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY KIND OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF WE COULD JUST WRAP THEM UP AND THEN PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF. SO IF WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON A NON AGENDA ITEM, IT WOULD COME NOW AND IT WOULD GIVE US FULL THREE MINUTES BEFORE 515. MAYOR, I DO ONLY HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO IT. NON AGENDA ITEM WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE HIM. I HAVE ALBERT BRINKLEY MR. BRINKLEY.

ONCE AGAIN MY NAME IS ALBERT BRINKLEY E STEWART RESIDENCE. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND READ REITERATE ON. COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS AND COMMISSIONER. WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THE PARKING ASPECT, IT'S THE OWNERS VEHICLES THAT'S PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. IT'S THE OWNER, IT'S THE WORKERS, THE BIG THE BIG WHITE TRUCK IS PARKED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CENTRAL AVENUE. AND IN FRONT OF THE GUTTER. IT'S THE OWNERS PARKING THEIR TRUCKS AND VANS, WHICH CREATE A PROBLEM WITH THE EYESIGHT, ALONG WITH THE PLANTERS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN.

WHEN I SAY WE NEED PARKING, COMMISSIONER MATTHEWS, IT'S THIS HERE YOU HAVE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS THERE. WHEN THEY ARE THERE, THAT ENTIRE STREET IS BASICALLY TAKEN UP BY THEM.

I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT IT LEAVES LITTLE PARKING SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S WHY I SAY ON EAST AVENUE AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, THOSE PLANTERS WITH THE PALM TREES, WE DON'T NEED TO BE LOOKING LIKE A JUNGLE IN EASTWOOD. THOSE PLANTERS NEED TO BE TAKEN UP WHERE PARKING SPACE CAN BE PUT THERE. WE NEED PARKING SPACE. WE DON'T NEED PARKING SPACE ELIMINATED IN THAT COMMUNITY. WE NEED PARKING SPACE. SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO REITERATE THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE THE OWNERS PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO NOW YOU'RE PULLING OUT THERE IN THE ROAD AND YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO GET T-BONED. SO BETWEEN THE

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YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FROM GOD. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, STEVEN, IK TO ORDER. THE MEETING, THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 14TH. WE WERE ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. MR. BRINKLEY HAD MADE A PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK NORMALLY WE WON'T. WE DON'T HAVE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS, BUT I THINK ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER GIOVANNI WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WILL CONTINUE. THESE ARE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY. MY IT WASN'T REALLY A COMMENT TO WHAT MR. BRINKLEY SAID. IT WAS A COMMENT. IT WAS ACTUALLY A SUGGESTION TO PANEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE DID ADDRESS THE FOUR WAY STOP AND ALL THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHE MENTIONED ABOUT THE THE CONTAINERS THAT ARE ALSO BLOCKING. SO, I MEAN, THE WHOLE ISSUE NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE DOES THAT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? I DO I HAVE LEWIS LEONARD. MR. LEONARD WAS HERE. COULD YOU SOUND THE HALLWAY FOR MR. LEONARD PLEASE BE OUT THERE. MR. LEONARD IS NO LONGER HERE. I HOPE THAT HE CAN SEND IN HIS COMMENT IN WRITING OR SOMETHING. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS?

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR]

ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I WAS NOT AT THE AUGUST 17TH CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGAIN. SO THE VOTE IS FOR BOTH MEETING MINUTES. OKAY. THEN. JUST LIKE THAT TO BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN COMMISSIONER JOB, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON YOUR ON THE MOTION ISSUE. I'M NOT IN. MOST PEOPLE NOW KNOW THAT I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR, UNLESS IT'S MINUTES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR. I MEAN, SOMETIMES THERE USED TO BE SIX AND SEVEN THINGS AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, APPROVING ALL OF THEM AT ONCE AND THE PUBLIC NEVER GETS TO HEAR WHAT WHAT GOES ON IN THOSE PARTICULAR RESOLUTIONS OR MOTIONS. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A READ AND SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION ABOUT IT, THAT THE ITEMS NOT BE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, ESPECIALLY THIS WAS

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COMMISSIONER. YES. MAYOR. CLERK. YES. THANK YOU. SO, ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPROVAL OF THE EIGHT, 17, 20, 26 MINUTES AND THE EIGHT, 20, 24 MINUTES. I'LL MAKE WHAT WE JUST APPROVED. NO, WE WE TOOK THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND REMOVED AN ITEM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE. YOU CAN JUST DO A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH NUMBER SIX. OKAY. WITH JUST ITEM NUMBER SIX. YES. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER SIX. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REED. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC COMMISSIONER RICH. SORRY. ANY COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MADAM CLERK, COMMISSIONER. YES.

MAYOR. CLERK. YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. REED. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON.

YES. NOW WE TAKE UP THE MATTER OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE DECLARATION OF THE 2026 ELECTION RESULTS. RESOLUTION NUMBER 74-2026. IF YOU COULD READ THE TITLE AND IF. AND ALSO THE BODY OF THE THAT RESOLUTION SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS FULLY INFORMED, AS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER GIOVI. YOU WANT ME TO READ THE WHOLE THING? YES, SURE. ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE 2026 REGULAR PRIMARY MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION, GROUP TWO AND GROUP FOUR PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. WHEREAS, THE RESULTS OF THE 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION ARE NOW KNOWN AND HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED AND PUBLISHED BY THE MARTIN COUNTY CANVASING BOARD, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 7.06 STUART CITY CHARTER, A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO AS ATTACHMENT A. AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, THAT IN GROUP ONE, CANDIDATE CAMPBELL RICH RECEIVED 1783, AND WILL. LAUGHLIN RECEIVED 1764. OF THE 3547 VOTES CAST AND GROUP THREE CANDIDATE MERRITT MATHESON RECEIVED 2087 VOTES, WHILE DEREK OGDEN RECEIVED 1500. OF THE 3587 VOTES CAST, AND IN GROUP FIVE, CANDIDATE ULLA CLARK RECEIVED 1869 VOTES. KYLIE MCKAY RECEIVED 566 VOTES. DANE OLDENBURG RECEIVED 1153 OF THE 3588 VOTES CAST. RESPECTIVELY, THE RESULTS OF WHICH ARE NOW KNOWN AND WHICH HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE CANVASING BOARD AND ARE HEREBY CONFIRMED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AS THE OFFICIAL RESULTS OF THE AUGUST 18TH, 2026, PRIMARY ELECTION. KIMBALL RICH RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST AT THE AUGUST 18TH, 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION AND IS DECLARED REELECTED AS CITY COMMISSIONER.

GROUP ONE. THE FOUR YEAR TERM OF OFFICE COMMENCED UPON TAKING OATH OF OFFICE AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 24TH, 2026. MAYOR MATHESON RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST AT THE AUGUST 18TH, 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION AND IS DECLARED ELECTED AS CITY COMMISSIONER. GROUP THREE. THE FOUR YEAR TERM OF THE OFFICE COMMENCED UPON TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 24TH, 2026. ULA CLARK RECEIVED THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST AT THE AUGUST 18TH, 2026 PRIMARY ELECTION. IS DECLARED ELECTED AS CITY COMMISSIONER. GROUP FIVE. THE FOUR YEAR TERM OF OFFICE COMMENCED UPON TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 24TH, 2026. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I GO TO THE PUBLIC? I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE A MOTION AND I DON'T HAVE A MOTION. YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST TAKE IT OUT. YEAH. THAT WAS WERE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. YEAH. SHE WANTS TO GET ANOTHER MOTION. WE JUST HAD A MOTION TO. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 74 2026 RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE 2026 REGULAR PRIMARY MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION GROUP TWO AND FOUR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SECOND TO SECOND. THREE. WHAT ABOUT GROUP ONE? WHY IS IT LISTED LIKE THAT? LEGAL. IT'S ONE RESOLUTION WITH

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IT DOES. HE READ IT HAS IT IN THE BODY. IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE IT IN THE TITLE. THE TITLE IN THE TITLE. YEAH. AND IT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT IN THE TITLE. NO. OR THE CITY COMMISSION. GROUP TWO AND GROUP FIVE. IT'S NOT IN THE TITLE. SHOULD IT BE IN THE TITLE? IT'S GROUP FOUR. NEVER HAS BEEN. NO IT'S NOT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE TITLE IS AIRED. SO IT DOES HAVE GROUP TWO AND FOUR AND IT'S ALL THE OTHER GROUPS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF HAD MISSED. SO IT SHOULD. I'M SORRY. YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE 2026 REGULAR PRIMARY MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY COMMISSION GROUP ONE, THREE AND FIVE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ALTHOUGH THE TITLE IS WRONG, THE THE BODY OF THE RESOLUTION IS CORRECT, BUT WE CAN CORRECT THE TITLE. BUT IT'S NOT. GROUP TWO AND FOUR. GROUP ONE, THREE AND FIVE, TWO AND FOUR WOULD HAVE BEEN FROM LAST ELECTION. OKAY. THAT'S COMMISSIONER REED AND COMMISSIONER JOBS GROUP. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THE TITLE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED? AND IS THE RESOLUTION NUMBER CORRECT? 74-2026? YES. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE. MOTION. MOTION WITH WITH A MAKING SURE THAT THE TITLE IS CHANGED. YEAH.

OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 74, 2026, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE 2026 REGULAR PRIMARY MUNICIPAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY COMMISSIONER, GROUP TWO AND FOR GROUP FOUR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND THE CORRECTION TO THE TITLE OF THE SAID RESOLUTION TO REFLECT GROUP TWO AND GROUP FOUR. NO. TWO. THREE AND FIVE. YEAH. ONE. THREE AND FIVE. THANKS. WE HAD TWO AND FOUR, WHICH IS YOU AND COMMISSIONER READS. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE ONE THREE AND FIVE. GROUP ONE THREE AND FIVE. SECOND. ONE THREE AND FIVE.

THANK YOU. I WAS READING IT FROM HERE. THIS WAS WRONG. SO THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE VOTING ON 74 2026. THE TITLE HAS BEEN CORRECTED. IS AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MATHESON. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR. CLERK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES, COMMISSIONER. READ. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR BRINGING BRINGING THAT UP. WE NOW HAVE

[14. BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS (RC): (ITEM TABLED FROM JUNE 22, 2026) ORDINANCE No. 2552-2026; AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CITY’S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER II – ZONING DISTRICTS USES ALLOWED, DENSITY, INTENSITY, SECTION 2.06.00. – SUPPLEMENTAL USE STANDARDS TO ADD A NEW SECTION 2.06.24. BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND TO AMEND THE CITY’S CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 8 – ANIMALS, ARTICLE I. IN GENERAL, SECTION 8.2. – LIVESTOCK PROHIBITED IN THE STUART’S CODE OF ORDINANCES, BY REMOVING CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATED TO ALLOW BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS; PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS; PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

SECTION 2.06.24 BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, AND TO AMEND THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES. CHAPTER EIGHT ANIMALS ARTICLE ONE IN GENERAL, SECTION 8.2 LIVESTOCK PROHIBITED IN THE STEWART STEWART'S CODE OF ORDINANCES BY REMOVING CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATED TO ALLOW BACKYARD CHICKENS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF PRIOR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AS THE MAYOR SAID, THIS WAS DURING FIRST READING WAS JUNE. I'M SORRY, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY SECOND READING ON JUNE 22ND, 2026. AND BECAUSE WE HAD FOUR COMMISSIONERS AT THE TIME, WE HAD TABLED IT TO A DATE CERTAIN, WHICH IS TODAY. I THINK THERE WERE SOME CERTAIN QUESTIONS ASKED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO ADDRESS, AND WE WERE WAITING FOR MR. MATHESON TO BE THE FIFTH COMMISSIONER ON THIS ISSUE. AND SINCE WE TOLD YOU EARLIER THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HAD AN EMERGENCY FAMILY EMERGENCY, SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TO MAKE THE

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AND SO YOU WANTED TO HAVE JUST A DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS AND POTENTIAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE, AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK IN OCTOBER FOR THE SECOND READING.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REED. YES. THE ONLY CHANGES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROPOSED, I MENTIONED THEM AT THE LAST MEETING. I THINK A SIX FOOT TALL COUPE IS WAY TOO SHORT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE SEVEN FOOT. AND I ALSO THINK AS FAR AS HOW DO THEY PUT THIS IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH RESIDENCES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE CHICKENS IN THEIR BACKYARD ON PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN. WE ALSO DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM SAMANTHA SMITH REGARDING A POTENTIAL PILOT PROGRAM FOR ONE FISCAL YEAR.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT HAD A ISSUES OR THINGS THAT THEY WERE BRINGING UP REGARDING THIS, IT'D BE A PILOT PROGRAM FOR ONE YEAR THEN. SO WE COULD KIND OF SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RICH. COMMISSIONER REED. SORRY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MATHESON? THANK YOU MAYOR. AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY VOTES TONIGHT, BUT I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME. AND I GUESS IT'S FOR ME TO COME IN AND CHIME IN. AND AGAIN. I WANT TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON MAKING THESE DECISIONS. BUT ONE, I'LL JUST GO DOWN MY LIST. I DON'T SUPPORT IT BEING IN DUPLEXES, KNOWING THAT STATE LAW REQUIRES ANYONE WHO'S COMPLAINING ON FOR OUR CITY CODE TO HAVE TO STATE THEIR NAME TO THE CITY. I CAN SEE THAT JUST CAUSING MORE FIGHTS IN THE FUTURE WITH TWO NEIGHBORS. SAME PROPERTY, ONE HAS CHICKENS. ONE THEN IS FORCED TO COMPLAIN AND HAS TO STATE THEIR PROBLEM. SO I DON'T SUPPORT IT IN DUPLEXES. AND WELL BEFORE GOING DOWN ALL THE LIST. SINCE JODI'S NOT HERE, I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR CITY STAFF GO OUT AND DO A SURVEY OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. I WANT TO PREFACE, I'M NOT CAMPAIGNING UP HERE, BUT I KNOCKED ON EASILY A THOUSAND DOORS OVER THE SUMMER DOING WHAT A COMMISSIONER OR FUTURE COMMISSIONER SHOULD DO WAS ASKING THE RESIDENTS THEIR OPINIONS. AND BEFORE I GOT INTO THIS, I WILL SAY I THOUGHT IT WAS A NON-ISSUE. I WAS EASILY IN SUPPORT OF IT. I GREW UP WITH CHICKENS AT MY HOUSE DOWN ON FLAGLER. WE HAVE A HISTORIC STORE CALLED THE STEWART FEED AND SUPPLY. I HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS AROUND TOWN THAT HAVE CHICKENS. CURRENTLY, THE CITY HAS A BASICALLY A DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL POLICY, AND IT'S BEEN GOING THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE PET PIGS IN THE CITY OF STEWART OR HAVE HAD PET PIGS. THAT'S THE TYPE OF TOWN WE ARE. BUT HAVING KNOCKED ON A LOT OF DOORS, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND I DID MY BEST TO TRY AND GAUGE THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON THAT. AND TO BE HONEST, THE BEST THING I CAN COME UP WITH IS I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS CAPABILITIES. THIS WAS DONE IN ROUGHLY 2018 OR 2019, AND WE HAVE MUCH MORE REFINED CAPABILITIES OF SURVEYING THE PUBLIC ON THIS ISSUE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY USE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES WE HAVE IN OUR CITY UTILITY BILL AND PROPOSE A SURVEY TO CITY RESIDENTS SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA NOT ONLY ON WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS, BUT THAT COULD BE BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT MORE DATA. RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICING THIS ISSUE. AND SO SEEKING MORE DATA MIGHT TELL US, ONE, WHETHER THE PUBLIC WANTS IT OR NOT. AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT, BUT TWO, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN IT? BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT WE'VE HAD, JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH OF APPROVING A BUDGET, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT NEED ANOTHER CODE

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THIS WOULD HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY. SOME OF THE PUSHBACK I'VE RECEIVED FROM TALKING TO RESIDENTS AND JUST DOING THE RESEARCH OVER THE TIME. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS, AND I KNOW. THERE'S ARGUMENTS THAT CHICKENS CAN BE CHICKS CAN BE SEXED, YOU KNOW, AT A WEEK OLD, BUT THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT. AND I'VE TALKED TO FRIENDS THAT HAVE HAD CHICKS AND TURNS OUT THEY GET TWO CHICKENS AND TWO ROOSTERS OR VICE VERSA OR WHATEVER NUMBER. AND YOU KNOW, THIS ORDINANCE IS FOR HAVING BACKYARD CHICKENS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. IS IT LEGAL TO HARVEST THE CHICKENS FOR MEAT IN THE CITY OF STUART? IF YOU END UP WITH A ROOSTER, OR DO WE HAVE DOES A CITY CURRENTLY HAVE A ROOSTER DISPOSAL PROCESS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IF THAT'S LEGAL RIGHT NOW OR NOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CASES THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, AND I BELIEVE IT'S REFERENCED IN THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, THAT THEY HAVE TO FIND A SUITABLE PLACE FOR THE CHICKENS IF THEIR PERMIT IS REMOVED. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT SUITABLE PLACES ARE FOR CHICKENS. IF THEY STOP AND THEY LOST THEIR PERMIT. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ROOSTERS BECAUSE INEVITABLY THEY WILL COME. AND WHERE DO THEY GO? YOU'RE HARMING OTHER PEOPLE IF YOU GET THE ROOSTERS, OR YOU END UP BUYING FOUR CHICKS FROM TRACTOR SUPPLY, AND TWO OF THEM ARE ROOSTERS. AND THREE MONTHS LATER YOU JUST DECIDE TO JUST LET THEM GO. THAT'S HOW WE GET ROOSTERS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND THAT ADDS TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION IF WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THEM. WHETHER THE PUBLIC MAJORITY SUPPORTS IT AT ALL. AND TWO, WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THEM IF SOMEONE'S PERMIT IS REVOKED, LIKE HAVE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THEY GO? AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE INEVITABLE ROOSTERS IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT WANT THEM? I'M ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MOST LIKELY IT SHOULD BE FOR HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES ONLY. BUT I DO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE THE TEST PHASE. BUT FRANKLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO ACCURATE SURVEYS, RECORD IP ADDRESSES. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE TAKING SURVEY MULTIPLE TIMES AND BREAKING IT DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND LE MOST OFTEN. SO WE GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT THEM AND WHETHER OR NOT THE MAJORITY SUPPORTS THEM OR AS OPPOSED TO THEM. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MATHESON. I SEE NO OTHER LIVES FOR COMMISSIONERS. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'M GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC.

THE PUBLIC. YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY. YES. I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT A SURVEY OF THE OF THE CITY RESIDENTS. OKAY. I'LL ACTUALLY I HAVE A I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SURVEY. THE THING IS ALSO, AND I KNOW THAT OUR GROWTH

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I'M JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL YOU GUYS FINISH. I WAS JUST CONFIRMING SOMETHING IN THAT PROPOSAL. OKAY. SO SO WE'RE ON THE 12TH. OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE ON THE POTENTIAL CHICKEN ORDINANCE AND THEY WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HAD LEFT BECAUSE THEY HAD HEARD THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PUT OFF UNTIL THE 12TH, BUT THIS IS OPEN TO THIS ITEM NUMBER 14. WE HAVE DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY WANT TO GIVE US. YES, MAYOR, I HAVE SOME. SAMANTHA SMITH. SAMANTHA SMITH, THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT IS NOT EASY, AND WE ALL SWEAR AN OATH WHEN WE DO TAKE OFFICE OR WHEN WE BECOME A PUBLIC SERVANT. AND AT THE START OF THAT OATH, IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. IT SAYS THAT IN ADMINISTERING OR PERFORMING YOUR DUTY, THOU SHALT NOT HARM. AND IF I GO BACK TO ONE OF THE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE EARLIER, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME, BUT HE REFERENCED ROMANS CHAPTER 13. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ YOU VERSES SIX THROUGH TEN. AND IT STATES, THIS IS ALSO WHY YOU PAY TAXES. FOR THE AUTHORITIES ARE GOD'S SERVANTS WHO GIVE THEIR FULL TIME TO GOVERNING. GIVE TO EVERYONE WHAT YOU OWE THEM. IF YOU OWE TAXES, PAY TAXES, IF REVENUE THAN REVENUE, IF RESPECT, THEN RESPECT. IF HONOR, THEN HONOR. LET NO DEBT REMAIN OUTSTANDING EXCEPT THE CONTINUING DEBT TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER. FOR WHOEVER LOVES OTHERS HAS FULFILLED THE LAW, THE COMMANDMENTS. YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY. YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET. AND WHATEVER OTHER COMMAND THERE MAY BE ARE SUMMED UP IN THIS ONE COMMAND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. LOVE DOES NO HARM TO A NEIGHBOR. THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW. YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED A POLICY HANDOUT FROM ME THAT I'VE DRAFTED VERY CAREFULLY. HAVING GONE THROUGH THE MUNI CODE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. SECTION 8.2, AS IT EXISTS IN YOUR GENERAL CODE, PROHIBITS THE POSSESSION OF BACKYARD CHICKENS. THE OVERARCHING POINT OF THIS POLICY HANDOUT IS THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE SAYS NO DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS LESS ENFORCEABLE OR NEEDS LESS ENFORCEMENT. YOU STATE IN YOUR CODE THAT RESIDENCES CANNOT HAVE BACKYARD CHICKENS. SO I HAVE FOUR KEY POINTS TO YOU. NUMBER ONE, WHAT SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT DUTY WOULD THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRE THAT DOES NOT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN YOUR EXISTING PROVISION? NUMBER TWO, IF YOU CAN INVESTIGATE A COMPLAINT CURRENTLY THAT A RESIDENT MIGHT LODGE ABOUT A NEIGHBOR HAVING CHICKENS, THEN WHY WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE SUCH A COMPLAINT IF THE ORDINANCE WERE CHANGED OR PASSED? NUMBER THREE, WHAT IS THE PROJECTED ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD? BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU CALL MARTIN COUNTY AND MARTIN COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT MAY BE RESPONSE OR ANIMAL CONTROL AT THE COUNTY LEVEL RESPONSE. SO WHAT IS THE

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AND WHEN IT GETS TO THE COUNTY, THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH TAKE THAT LANGUAGE AND ADOPT IT IF THEY WANT TO. AND SO YOU HAVE MORE OF YOU POSSIBLY HAVE MORE CONTROL HERE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT, TO MAKE IT HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE, IF YOU WANT IT TO NOT BE IN DUPLEXES, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONLY HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU CAN DO. I, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE RECENT THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN A BREAK OF TRUST. AND I APPRECIATE THE OLIVE BRANCH EXTENDED THROUGH AN APOLOGY EARLIER. I'M NOT EVEN IN THE CITY. AND OBVIOUSLY IT WAS HURTFUL TO WATCH WHAT HAPPENED HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE SOME TRUST CAN BE BUILT BACK. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT WE ELECT THE OFFICIALS, RIGHT. AND WE EXPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPRESENT US. AND THIS CAME UP IN 2017. COME UP AGAIN. IT'S COME UP IN THE COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST SAY MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. THEY'RE ASKING, PLEASE WORK WITH US. THERE'S A PILOT PROGRAM, THERE'S THERE'S REGULATIONS IN PLACE. WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR FOR QUIET HENS.

THAT'S ALL. AND I WOULD SAY IF YOU DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THE QUESTIONNAIRE, I WOULD ASK THAT IT BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU PUT IN SOME LANGUAGE THAT EDUCATES THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE IS THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE SITUATIONS ARE ABOUT THE, THE CHICKENS, THEY THINK THAT EVERY CHICKEN IS NOISY BECAUSE THEY THINK EVERY CHICKENS, A ROOSTERS THING. IN CLOSING, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER SOME ENCOURAGEMENT FROM ANOTHER BIBLE VERSE. SECOND CORINTHIANS SECOND CHRONICLES 16. NINE EYES OF THE LORD SEARCHED TO AND FRO THROUGHOUT THE EARTH, LOOKING TO ENCOURAGE AND STRENGTHEN THOSE WHOSE HEARTS ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO HIM. SO MY HOPE IS THAT EACH ONE OF YOU AND EACH ONE OF US, WOULD OUR HEARTS BE FULLY COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING HIM BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER GOD IN THIS NATION? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CLERK. NEXT, I HAVE CLAY SHARER. MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. ALL. WITH GREAT HESITANCY, I SUBMITTED A GREEN CARD BECAUSE I. I HATE TO CONTRIBUTE ANY BIT OF TIME THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY USING ON THIS TOPIC. SO MY, MY COMMENT TO YOU ALL IS THIS IS A NON ISSUE. AND SOMETIMES THE BEST ACTION OF OF GOVERNMENT IS INACTION OR NO ACTION. AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO MOVE ON TO BIGGER, MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.

THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF CHICKENS RUNNING AROUND THE CITY CAUSING ISSUES. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND, YOU KNOW, KNOCKING DOWN YOUR DOORS ASKING FOR SOMETHING. IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING FINE. JUST MOVE ON. THANKS. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PUBLIC EYE. DO I HAVE WILL LAUGHLIN, MR. LAUGHLIN. LAUGHLIN, 950, SOUTH COUNTY HIGHWAY. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS LOOKING FOR MORE DETAILS. I ALSO WAS KNOCKING ON

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NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS IN AN EIGHT HOUR DAY, 20 DAILY COST 160 AT $20 AN HOUR, $160. THEN INSPECTION COST PER PERMIT IS $8. INSPECTIONS WOULD REQUIRE ABOUT 25 DAYS OF INSPECTIONS, OR ABOUT ONE MONTH INSPECTION. COST PER QUARTER IS $4,000. ANNUAL COST PER PERMIT IS $32, AND THE ANNUAL INSPECTION COST IS 16,000. THAT WILL LEAVE YOU WITH ANOTHER 16,500 DOLLARS LEFT OVER. SO THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE EXPENSE OF HIRING.

WE CAN GO AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE RETIRED PEOPLE OUT THERE, OR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO HAVE A SIDE GIG, SIDE HUSTLE TO COVER THOSE INCREASING TAXES OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. OKAY, SO THIS IS FIXABLE. THIS IS DOABLE. KEEP LOOKING AT THE DETAILS. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE SURVEY.

I LIKE THAT IDEA SO PEOPLE CAN SHARE THEIR CONCERNS AND WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE THIS AN FOR THE MARK MARTIN COUNTY PERSON, THEIR PALM CITY PERSON. WE CAN MAKE THIS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO, TO KIND OF LIKE A, A MODEL FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. AND IT'S ABOUT PERSONAL FREEDOMS. THINK ABOUT WHEN CHICKENS DISAPPEARED ABOUT IN THE 1950S AND 1960S.

THEY WERE ONCE COMMON ACROSS ALL AMERICA IN CITIES, BIG CITIES. EVERYBODY HAD THEM.

WHAT HAPPENED? SO THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. LAUGHLIN. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS THE DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS ON THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2552-2026, WHICH HAS BEEN PUT OFF UNTIL OCTOBER 12TH. BUT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE COMMENTS. IF YOU DID NOT PUT IN A CARD, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR COMMENT NOW AND FILL OUT A CARD.

IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMENT TIME FOR THIS ITEM. MR. OLDENBURG. YES. THIS IS THIS IS ON THE CHICKEN BACKYARD CHICKEN IN CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. YES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THE CHICKEN THING. I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE WERE JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT FIRING FIREFIGHTERS. SO LIKE THE SAMANTHA SAID, WE ALREADY HAVE A GUY THAT GOES AROUND AND DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE LAST THING WE NEED IS A GUY. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE FOR A GUY TO RIDE AROUND AND JUST PULL UP ON EVERYBODY THAT HAS A CHICKEN AND GO INVESTIGATE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A GUY THAT INVESTIGATES ALL THE, THE FERTILIZER AND ALL THESE PEOPLE'S YARDS. SO I JUST, I JUST SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH IT, WE DON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT. I THINK WE COULD JUST DO WITH WHAT WE GOT. THANK YOU. MR. OLDENBURG. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO THE THE SURVEY AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM STAFF SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY IF WE DO NEED MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL RESIDENCES. SO YES, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE THE FACTS WITH THAT. I HAVE NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MISS. MISS WYLIE WILL FILL OUT A FORM. I NOTICED THAT SHE'S BEEN SAYING SOMETHING AND AND USUALLY I DON'T, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN PERSONAL. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE, BUT CHICKENS RIGHT NOW, I MEAN MARTIN COUNTY. STUART, WE'RE ALREADY IN. IN ALL DUE RESPECT, PALM CITY HAS.

THAT'S THE FARMING AREA OUT WEST AND WE ALREADY HAVE A. HOW A CHARACTER, HOW MARTIN COUNTY IS ALREADY IS AND WHY PEOPLE COME HERE AND WHY WE LIVE HERE. YOU KNOW. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT LIVESTOCK CHICKEN, I'M THINKING PALM SEED. I THINK GROWING UP IN JENSEN BEACH, WE

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DIMINISH THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. EVERYTHING HAS ITS PLACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGAIN, COMPLETELY AGREE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO STUDY THIS FURTHER. ANY OTHER. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. SO THIS ITEM HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT OFF. WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.

WE WERE JUST ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WELL AS ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER REED. YEAH, MAYOR MERRITT WAS BEFORE ME. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MATHESON, SO I'D JUST LIKE TO SUGGEST A COUPLE THINGS FOR THE SURVEY AND THEY COULD BE ELABORATED ON, BUT IT SOME I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE ON THE SURVEY, ALTHOUGH THERE SHOULD CLEARLY BE A LINK TO IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME EMPHASIS THAT ONE CHICKENS DO NOT. WHAT'S THE TERM CROW? COCK A DOODLE DOO, ROOSTER. ROOSTERS? NO. ROOSTERS. YES, EXACTLY. I SAID CHICKENS DO NOT COCK A DOODLE DO THAT. SOME THAT COULD BE PHRASED A LITTLE MORE ELOQUENTLY, BUT THEY DO MAKE NOISE, BUT NOT NEARLY THE NOISE A ROOSTER DOES. AND CHICKENS DO NOT NEED ROOSTERS TO LAY EGGS. THERE SHOULD BE SOME MINIMAL BULLET POINTS FOR EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS. THE SETBACKS, I BELIEVE IT'S FOR THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW IS FIVE FEET WITH A 25 FOOT SETBACK OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES. AND SPECIFICALLY WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO HELP WITH. ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO COME FROM THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE EXPECT TO SIGN UP FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION WILL HELP CITY STAFF DETERMINE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE ANIMALS. WE NEED SOME PLACES WHERE THEY WILL GO WHEN THEY'RE WHEN SOMEONE LOSES A PERMIT, WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO GET RID OF THEM, YOU KNOW, OR THEY END UP WITH ROOSTERS. AND WE ALSO NEED A PLAN THAT I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE PLAN OF JUST HANDING IT OVER TO ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE COUNTY. IF WE END UP WITH CHICKENS ROAMING AROUND CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE JUST FREE RANGE, OUR OFFICERS ARE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND TAKE THEM OUT. OR WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THAT? IF IT'S JUST PITCHING IT TO THE COUNTY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY EITHER. SO THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. I MEAN, I, I HEAR EVERYONE, AND I THINK I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT THE SURVEY WILL SEE AND THEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN, SINCE YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT AND I KNOW WE'RE COMING BACK OCTOBER THE 12TH, ARE WE GOING TO BE HAVING STAFF TO WORK ON THE SURVEY BEFORE THE 12TH? AND DO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE SURVEY QUESTIONS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION OR WAIT TILL OUR. OH, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GIVE ANY DIRECTION TO STAFF? I DON'T NEED IT TO COME BACK BY THE 12TH. I'D RATHER DO THE SURVEY PROPERLY AND MAYBE EVEN. WE REVIEW SURVEY QUESTIONS AND AND CHIME IN ON THAT. I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO KIND OF NARROW DOWN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, HOUSES AND IP ADDRESSES WITH OUR UTILITY BILLS TO, TO GET AN EDUCATED SURVEY SURVEY AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS DECISION. AND PERHAPS IT'S A NON-DECISION. AND SOME PEOPLE SAID, OR PERHAPS IT'S, IT'S CLEAR PERHAPS 500 WAS A LARGE NUMBER, AS MR. LAUGHLIN SAID, I DIDN'T I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE THAT MANY. BUT I'M I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW. YES. THANK YOU, AND I HAVE I, I KNOW THAT MR. REID HAS HIS OWN. BUT SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHICKENS AND WHAT TO DO WITH THEM, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TASKED WITH A LOT OF THINGS AND THEY DO DO A LOT. SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AS TO WHAT THE ACTUAL IMPACT WOULD BE ON THAT DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT'S 500 PERSONS APPLYING OR WE

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YEAH, I JUST I WANTED TO GET IT MORE CLARIFICATION. I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MATHESON, IT BEING HOMESTEADED PROPERTY, NO DUPLEXES. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME SOME SORT OF FORM OF A MOTION THOUGH FOR STAFF FOR DIRECTION, UNLESS WE'RE WAITING ON THIS SURVEY BEFORE ANYTHING.

BECAUSE IF THE SURVEY DOESN'T COME BACK FOR YOUR. WELL WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD AS FAR AS. DO WE WANT STAFF TO COME UP WITH QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY AND WE APPROVE THAT AND THEN SEND IT OUT. AND MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, SOME SURVEYS, IT COULD BE SENT OUT ONCE AND THEN A SECOND ROUND. BUT I, I KNOW STAFF HAS THE CAPABILITY OF LIMITING IT TO, I BELIEVE, CITY CITY ADDRESSES. AND WE COULD EVEN BREAK IT UP BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO CHECK THE IP ADDRESS. SO IT MIGHT BE ONE RESPONSE PER IP ADDRESS. BUT HERE'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT THOUGH. COMMISSIONER MATHESON, PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR ME, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PROPERTY RIGHTS, RIGHT? SO IF IF MY NEIGHBOR DIDN'T WANT CHICKENS, PER SE, WHAT? WHY WOULD THAT STOP ME FROM HAVING CHICKENS BASED OFF THE SURVEY, RIGHT? IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OWN DOGS, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NOT OWN DOGS. THERE'S NO LIMITATION. I DON'T THINK THAT LADY IN PALM CITY HAD 30 SOME BORDER COLLIES. AND TO ME, THAT'S MORE OF A NUISANCE THAN SOMEONE HAVING FOUR CHICKENS, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHICKENS. SO THEY'RE PRODUCING EGGS FOR CONSUMPTION.

I JUST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING WITH THIS. YOU AND I HAVE OFFERED SOME, SOME ADVICE TOWARDS STAFF, WHICH I APPRECIATE. THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH FROM THE OTHER THREE BOARD MEMBERS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A SEVEN FOOT HEIGHT COOP.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IN MORE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. I UNDERSTAND THE DUPLEXES, IT NOT BEING IN THERE, THE NON HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED SETBACKS ON IT. BUT I DON'T THINK A SURVEY SHOULD DICTATE WHETHER OR NOT ONE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE CHICKENS IN THEIR BACKYARD VERSUS SOMEONE ELSE'S. BECAUSE LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE THAT SOME MAY NOT SUPPORT, BUT WE STILL HAVE THEM AS AMERICANS TO HAVE THAT CHOICE. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE SOME SORT OF DIRECTION, THOUGH, TOWARDS STAFF. WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE US TO TALK TO US BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR LIGHT ON. WHAT? DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE, COMMISSIONER MATHESON? YES, COMMISSIONER. READ I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MOST ONEROUS TASK UP HERE IS DEBATING THE MINUTIA OF PROPERTY RIGHTS. I CAN'T GO AND PUT A CAR DEALERSHIP ON MY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. I MEAN, WE THERE ARE ZONINGS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AND EVERYONE THAT BOUGHT IN THE CITY OF STUART. PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW CHICKENS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT ALLOW THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THEM TO HAVE THEM. BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT, I MEAN, PROPERTY. SO IF I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT, CAN I GO GET A CHICKEN? I MEAN, THERE ARE I DON'T THINK THOSE GUYS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE DOGS, IF YOU WANT MY OPINION. NO, BUT THEY CAN. THAT'S THE THING. EXACTLY. NOT NOT ALL OF THEM. SOME APARTMENTS DON'T ALLOW DOGS AND SOME HOAS DON'T ALLOW DOGS. WE WE WE ARE TASKED WITH TRYING TO WEED INTO THE MINUTIA OF THIS, TO FIGURE IT OUT, TO TRY AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, WHILE NOT HARMING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THEIR DIRECT NEIGHBOR. AND SO A SURVEY MIGHT TELL US THAT, WELL, IT'S CLEAR THAT IN STEDMAN HEIGHTS, THEY REALLY WANT CHICKENS THERE, BUT IT'S CLEAR ON RIVERSIDE THAT THEY CLEARLY DON'T. AND THAT INFORMATION MIGHT HELP. AND I THINK WE SHOULD WEIGH IN ON THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT COME BACK WHEN IT'S DONE. BUT TO JUST A BLANKET APPROVAL OF EVERY PROPERTY. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO UP HERE IS SIT HERE AND GO BACK AND FORTH ON PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WHAT THEY MEAN.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES AND FUTURE LAND USE. YES. BUT WHAT ABOUT IF IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM? SO IF IT DIDN'T WORK OUT IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN COULD YOU ADDRESS IT THEN? WELL, THEN WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH ALL THE CHICKENS WE TELL PEOPLE TO GO AND GET AND THEN TAKE AWAY AFTER THE PILOT PROGRAM ENDS, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. YEAH, IT DOES WORK OUT. I'M SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF FARMS IN PALM CITY

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SO WE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH OVER EVERYONE'S SAME AVERSIONS TO IT AND THE SAME PROS AND CONS, THE SAME PROS AND CONS. LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD IF WE HAVE A WAY FORWARD, WHICH IS TO GET A SURVEY USING THE LIST FOR THE I BELIEVE YOU SAID UTILITY LIST. GET EVERYONE GET UP A, YOU KNOW, TAKE FROM THE UTILITY LIST EMAIL LIST, PUT TOGETHER THE THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND LET'S GET IT OUT THE DOOR. AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE WE'D HAVE SOMETHING BACK BEFORE THE 12TH.

OKAY. SO CAN WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT LANGUAGE? THANK YOU. I SAID IT'S A LAND USE ISSUE.

WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE. WHAT IS A DOMESTICATED ANIMAL AND WHAT'S A PET AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP SOME THINGS HERE. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. CITY ATTORNEY YEAH, I JUST I MADE SOME NOTES WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND SO FORTH. SO I THINK THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS THAT I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT SO THAT YOU GUYS, YOU MAY KNOW THIS OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TWO COMPONENTS. YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THE PERMITTING PROCESS. AND THEN THAT MIGHT ENTAIL SOME INSPECTIONS, BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATION OF THE ORDINANCES. WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ANIMAL CONTROL HERE IN THE CITY. SO WE CONTRACTED OUT WITH THE COUNTY FOR THEM TO HANDLE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL. SO IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SO THERE'S THERE'S SOME REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED BY ANIMAL CONTROL THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. BUT THAT IS A COST, THOUGH WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. YEAH. AND THEY MIGHT HAVE ISSUES WITH IT. WE MIGHT HAVE TO SELF REGULATE THAT HASN'T EVEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN COMMUNICATED WITH THEM ABOUT IT YET. THANK YOU. SO. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE. HAS ANYONE EVER YEAH. HAS ANYONE I KNOW WILL WILL MENTION PEOPLE PHYSICALLY GOING IN AND INSPECTING THESE FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS? HAS THERE EVER BEEN THOUGHT FOR CONSTITUENTS TO SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY LIKE PHOTOS? I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER ON STAFF. I KNOW SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO THAT FOR BASIC PERMITS, WHICH I CONSIDER THIS A BASIC PERMIT, BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REED. AND I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF GIVING SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF BEFORE THE MEETING ON OCTOBER 12TH. DO YOU WANT ME TO SUM IT UP? SUGGEST SOMETHING.

COMMISSIONER. SEVEN FOOT HEIGHT COOP. THE SURVEY, AS COMMISSIONER MATHESON SUGGESTED, BASED OFF HIS CRITERIA. I'LL LET HIM CHIME IN ON THOSE BULLET POINTS. I THINK NON DUPLEXES, I THINK HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. AND THEN BASED OFF THE SURVEY, AS COMMISSIONER MATHESON SUGGESTED, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS MAY OR MAY NOT WANT THEM. AND MAYBE PICTURES FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS. SO WE'RE NOT WASTING AS MUCH PHYSICAL RESOURCES OF SOMEONE DRIVING AROUND INSPECTING THESE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT MANY PEOPLE EVEN APPLYING. I THINK IT'S MORE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY HAVE THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO LOSE THEIR CHICKENS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD DOING A SURVEY BY A CERTAIN TIME, OR AT LEAST HAVING THE SURVEY LANGUAGE? I'LL LET COMMISSIONER MATHESON CHIME IN ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HIS. I MEAN, WE COULD REQUEST THAT BY THE 28TH SURVEY LANGUAGE COMES BACK. I AGREE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE RUSH. I MEAN, LIKE SOME THINGS UP HERE.

WE CAN EXAMINE THAT AND. GO FROM THE 28TH TO DECIDE ON THE 12TH. I KNOW COMMISSIONER JOB WON'T BE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT I HAD ON MY NOTES WAS A ONE QUESTION. DO YOU SUPPORT OR ALLOW BACKYARD CHICKENS IN THE CITY OF STUART? AND THEN UNDER THAT WOULD BE 3 TO 4

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AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT. AND THIS RESIDENTIAL THING TO ME HAS A LOT OF QUESTION AND WHICH IS WHY I'M GLAD THAT I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. BUT IF WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF MORE OF THE PUBLIC, MAYBE ON THE 12TH, WE CAN DECIDE SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THAT IT WILL TAKE TIME TO DO A SURVEY AND TO COME BACK, AND I THINK WE'LL NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS. SO I AGREE, I THINK THE SURVEY SHOULD GO OUT

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RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. CLARK. YES.

COMMISSIONER REED. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 14. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE. WERE THEY JUST REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA COMPLETELY AND PUT AWAY UNTIL THE 12TH THE TABLE TO THE 12TH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TEN AMENDMENT OF THE ROAD CLOSURE FOR THE 53RD. EXCUSE ME, MR. BAGGETT, DO WE NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE? DO WE NEED TO READ ANYTHING IN THE RECORD AND SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN OFFICIALLY MOVED, OR WAS THAT DONE DURING THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA? IS THAT OKAY? I

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YES. BOTH THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED TO A DATE CERTAIN ON OCTOBER 12TH TO 2026. THANK YOU

[10. AMENDMENT OF THE ROAD CLOSURE FOR THE 53RD ANNUAL STUART BOAT SHOW (2027) (RC): RESOLUTION No. 58-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 44-2026 TO REVISE THE ROAD CLOSURE FOR THE 53rd ANNUAL STUART BOAT SHOW; AUTHORIZING A TEMPORARY ROAD CLOSURE FROM 5:30 A.M. ON MONDAY, JANUARY 11, 2027, THROUGH 11:59 P.M. ON MONDAY, JANUARY 18, 2027, ALONG NW DIXIE HIGHWAY (FORMERLY SR 707) FROM SW ALBANY AVENUE SOUTH OF THE OLD ROOSEVELT BRIDGE TO NW POINSETTIA STREET TO INCLUDE THE FEC RAILROAD CROSSING OFF NW FERN STREET AND NW DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTH OF THE ST. LUCIE RIVER DRAW BRIDGE, SUBJECT TO FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION APPROVAL; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

YEAH, YOU DO THAT A LOT. HIM AND I ARE VERY DIFFERENT. BY THE WAY. I'M GOING TO SWITCH SOMEWHERE AROUND. JUST SAYING I WANT TO DO SOMETHING. LISTEN TO THIS. HERE IS MESSED UP. SUCH GOOD FRIENDS. THIS IS SO I'M GOING TO. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. I'M GOING TO GO TO STAFF. MADAM MAYOR, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE 53RD BOAT SHOW THAT WE HAVE HAPPENS ON THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY EVERY YEAR. HISTORICALLY, THE ROADS ARE CLOSED FROM TUESDAY THROUGH MONDAY. AND BASED UPON SOME SETUP ISSUES RELATED TO FDOT AS IT RELATES TO THE OLD ROOSEVELT BRIDGE, THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT THIS YEAR FOR ONE DAY. AND I HAVE ROB MCKEEN WITH MARINE INDUSTRIES HERE, AND ALSO JESSICA THARP, WHO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS ROB MCKEEN, FLEMING WAY AND STEWART MASTERCLASS AND CHICKENS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I'M NOT NECESSARILY A CITY BOY, BUT I MEAN, THAT WAS THAT WAS AN EDUCATION RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. YES. 53RD STEWART BOAT SHOW. IT'S A I THINK MY MOTHER WAS IN HER SECOND TRIMESTER WHEN IT WHEN THE FIRST ONE HAPPENED. AND IT'S A IT'S A STEWART STAPLE. THE THE REASON WE ALREADY HAVE A, A MOTION AND A ROAD CLOSURE RESOLUTION FOR ASKING FOR THE EXTENDED TIME FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. THE SHOW IS GROWING. THE SHOW IS 2000 PEOPLE PLUS OVER THE COURSE OF THREE DAYS, EXCLUDING THE EXHIBITORS THAT ARE IN THERE, ACCESS TO THE SHOW IS TIGHT, SO SHOW IS SOLD OUT ALREADY, AND WE'RE STILL SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THAT SHOW STARTS. SO IT'S A IT'S A PACKED SHOW. IN ORDER TO BUILD IT, IT TURNS INTO A CONSTRUCTION SITE ON THAT ROAD. THE EXTRA TIME ALLOWS THE TENT CONTRACTOR TO BUILD WHAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT, GIVES THEM TIME ON THE BACK END AS WELL, TO STRIKE WHAT NEEDS TO BE STRUCK. IN THE MEANTIME, YOU GOT BOATS ROLLING IN AND OUT OF THERE. YOU'VE GOT OTHER EXHIBITORS MOVING THEIR WARES IN AND OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN

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COMMISSIONER REED. YEAH, MY LIGHT WAS ON 15 MINUTES AGO, BUT IT'S IRRELEVANT NOW. MY MY COMMENTS ARE I, I, I SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LONGER TERM FOR THIS.

INSTEAD OF THESE GUYS HAVING TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR. I MEAN, WE'RE ON THE 53RD YEAR BY NOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON. THESE GUYS JUST SPENT 4.5 HOURS OF THEIR EVENING TO COME HERE JUST TO GET APPROVAL FOR THIS. AND YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENTS ON THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE DO. WE WOULD LOVE TO ENTER INTO A DISCUSSION ALONG THOSE LINES. YOU PROBABLY GET BETTER VENDORS TO KNOWING IF THERE WAS A LONG TERM LEASE POTENTIALLY TO. ABSOLUTELY. WE WE INVEST INTO THE SHOW EVERY YEAR. OUR PRODUCER INVESTED INTO THE SHOW EVERY YEAR. HAVING LONG TERM ARRANGEMENTS WOULD GIVES EVERYBODY CONFIDENCE, KNOWING THAT OUR RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT WEREN'T. WE JUST VOTED LIKE THE NUMBER ONE BOATING COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING. THE CITY OF STEWART. SO US GOT A BRAND NEW MARINA COMING IN. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE. BUT YEAH, I SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT IT SHOULD BE LONGER THAN ONE YEAR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. OH, SORRY. YOU JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE REASON THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THIS, HOWEVER WE DO IT MOVING FORWARD, IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION TO THE FDOT. SO WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEM. CORRECT. AND THEY COULD STILL DO THAT. THIS WOULD JUST GRANT THEM A LONG TERM LEASE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE 20 YEARS, BUT LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL. SO THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK HERE EVERY YEAR. AND REQUIREMENTS WOULD JUST BE THAT YOU NEED D.O.T. APPROVAL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CITY MANAGER CAN PUT IT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO WHERE WE'RE AWARE OF IT AND THE PUBLIC'S AWARE THEN AND THEN BOOM, DONE. PERFECT. FANTASTIC. WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER 53 YEARS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, I MIGHT NOT BE HERE. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER REED, BUT I THINK IN THE MATTER OF MOVING THIS AGENDA FORWARD, THAT WE APPROVE THIS AND THEN BRING BACK ON THE AGENDA A LONG TERM LEASE. AFTER WE SPEAK ABOUT IT, BRING IT BACK, DISCUSS IT. HOW MANY? FIVE, TEN YEARS. BRING THAT BACK AND VOTE ON IT THEN. BUT FOR FOR NOW, LET'S JUST FACILITATE THIS JANUARY. BUT WE HAVE FROM NOW UNTIL MARCH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FEBRUARY, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET TO YOUR VENDORS WHERE WE COULD PICK A LONG TERM, LONG TERM LEASE AND APPROVE THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MATHESON. NO, I, I DO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, A LONGER TERM LEASE, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COMING UP THIS YEAR. ONE, WE HAVE THE ROOSEVELT BRIDGE CLOSURE. AND IN THE UPCOMING YEARS, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE MARINE INDUSTRIES CAN WORK WITH THE TWO MARINAS BEING BUILT AND THE LOCATION MIGHT SHIFT A LITTLE BIT AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET ROAD CLOSURE, LESS TIME AND A BIGGER SHOW. SO, I MEAN, I INTEND TO KEEP LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN WITH THEM. AND I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA, BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOB

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CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? YES, PLEASE. SO WE'VE MET WITH PD. WE DO A WE DO TWO MEETINGS BEFORE THE SHOW. WE DO ONE MEETING AFTER THE SHOW. WE TALK ABOUT THE PAIN POINTS. TRAFFIC IS USUALLY THE ONLY PAIN POINT THAT WE DISCUSS. OTHERWISE IT'S A HURRAH MEETING. SO THIS YEAR AND GOING FORWARD, WE WILL BE SECURING MORE ODD OFF DUTY DETAIL TO MANAGE LIGHTS, PARTICULARLY AT CANTOR AND US. ONE I THINK OCEAN AND US ONE AS WELL, AND TRYING TO SEQUENCE THOSE. SO I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR ANOTHER $12,000 IN OWED FOR FOR THE NOT ONLY THE BUILD TIME, THE SHOW AND THE BREAKDOWN TIME, JUST TO HELP MANAGE THAT COMMON PAIN POINT. TRAFFIC IS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, GO TO LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW, GO TO THE PALM BEACH BOAT SHOW, GO TO THE MIAMI BOAT SHOW. IT'S HORRIFIC. WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY TO MAKE IT WORK. CAPTAIN. SO AT THE CHIEF'S DIRECTION LAST YEAR, WE SET UP TRAFFIC CONTROL POINTS FROM CANTOR HIGHWAY, BASICALLY ALL THE WAY NORTH TO ALMOST BAKER ROAD. WITH THAT DIRECTION FROM THE CHIEF, WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE COMMENTS FROM CITY RESIDENTS THAT THANKED US FOR REDUCING THEIR TRAFFIC TIME PRIOR YEARS. IT WOULD TAKE THEM AN HOUR TO GET HOME TO EVEN NORTH OF THE BRIDGE IN PALM LAKE PARK, AND THAT HAS GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY 1520 MINUTES. THAT PLAN IS STILL IN PLACE FOR THIS COMING YEAR. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND DO YOU YOU KEEP THE NUMBERS FOR THE THE TRAFFIC FLOW DURING THE BOAT SHOW. TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC IN TERMS OF CARS OR TRAFFIC. YEAH, YEAH. WHEN THEY PARK AND COME OFF ALBANY AND GO TO THE WHEN PEOPLE PARK AND THEN THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO PITCH THEM ON TO TAKE THE TROLLEY AND OTHER THINGS TO ACCESS. YES. WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO MARTIN COUNTY AIRPORT ABOUT OFFSITE PARKING, AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OF THE SHOW AS WELL. SO WE'VE, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXERCISING EVERY AVAILABLE PARKING PLACE WE CAN. WE KNOW THAT THE TRAM SYSTEM IS WORKING. HOPEFULLY THE. THERE'S APPARENTLY THERE'S A TRAM DOWN. HOPEFULLY THAT'S BACK UP AND RUNNING. BY THE TIME THE SHOW STARTS. THANK YOU. MOVE AS MANY BODIES AS WE CAN. THANK YOU, MR. STARK. WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YOU'VE. YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.

EVERYTHING'S IN THE SPECIAL. YES. AND COULD YOU JUST COME ON THE RECORD, PLEASE? MR. SO YOUR YOUR YOUR IDEA IS THAT EVEN IF THERE'S A A LEASE WITH THE BOAT FOLKS THAT HAVE AN ANNUAL SHOW IN THE CITY OF STUART LIMITS, ANYBODY WHO DOES THAT TYPE OF SHOW STILL HAS TO COME WITH AN

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THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. ROBERT WOLFORD, HE LEFT. OKAY. THEN I HAVE GAIL GOLDIE. MISS GOLDIE COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS GAIL GOLDIE 1153 NORTHWEST 12TH TERRACE IN STUART. I HAVE TO SAY I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR THE BOAT SHOW. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN BOATERS SINCE I WAS A BABY. I UNDERSTAND AND BEEN TO MANY BOAT SHOWS NEW YORK, SAN FRANCISCO ALL OVER. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, AS FAR AS OUR STEWART BOAT SHOW, I WANT TO MAKE A THANK YOU TO SHERIFF Z. LAST YEAR I SENT AN EMAIL TO HIM REGARDING THE TRAFFIC. THE TRAFFIC I LIVED OFF. I LIVE OFF OF BAKER ROAD AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST DAY OF THE BOAT SHOW, I GUESS WHEN THEY WERE SETTING UP IT WAS UNBEARABLE. YOU COULD NOT MAKE A RIGHT ONTO US. ONE OFF OF 14TH STREET. TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF BAKER ROAD, COMING DOWN GREEN RIVER PARKWAY AND SUCH, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE GREEN RIVER PARKWAY AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE OTHER ROAD THAT GOES DOWN THERE ON TO BAKER ROAD AND THEN TRYING TO GET ON TO US ONE. I SENT HIM AN EMAIL AND ASKED HIM TO SEE. PLEASE SEE IF THEY COULD ADDRESS THAT IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY, REALLY A HINDRANCE FOR ANYBODY TRYING TO GET OUT. AND HE DID. HE DID CONTACT THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEY ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT A PROBLEM. AND WITHIN, I WOULD SAY BY THE NEXT MORNING, THE TRAFFIC, THEY HAD IT ALL, ALL CORRECTED SO THAT WE WEREN'T STUCK AND COULDN'T GET ACCESS TO US ONE. SO I WANT TO THANK OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY AND OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO MAKE AND CONTINUE TO KEEP THE BOAT, SHOW THE SUCCESS THAT IT IS. THIS IS A COUNTY DIFFERENCE, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT. IT'S PART OF OUR HISTORY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH. NO OTHER COMMENTS. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MATHISON. OH, I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ONE MORE.

ONE MORE. OKAY. PUBLIC DAN ROMANCE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. DAN ROMANCE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MARINE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF THE TREASURE COAST. AND ON BEHALF OF OUR ASSOCIATION AND OUR BOAT SHOW PRODUCER, ALL SPORTS PRODUCTIONS. I'D LIKE TO THANK

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OKAY. COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES. COMMISSIONER. REED. YES.

COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. MAYOR CLARK. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 11.

[11. RATIFICATION OF LPA ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER (RC): RESOLUTION No. 73-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, RATIFYING THE ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENT OF A LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY BOARD MEMBER, FULFILLING VACANCIES ON THE BOARD FOR THE 2026 TERM YEAR, EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31, 2026; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BOARD MEMBER AT ONE POINT ON THE ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S EVER BEEN ONE, BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. OKAY, SO IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE ANYWAY. OKAY.

CITY. CITY CLERK. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES.

COMMISSIONER. REED. YES. MAYOR. CLARK. YES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 12. HAZEN AND

[12. HAZEN & SAWYER CONTRACT FOR SURFACE AND WATER RESOURCES EVALUATION (RC): RESOLUTION No. 67-2025; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING ENTERING INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HAZEN AND SAWYER; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

THANK YOU. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING ENTERING INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HAZEN AND SAWYER, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, THIS IS HER AGENDA.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HER ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, RUTH HOLMES, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR CONTINUED WATER RESOURCE EVALUATION ON PROJECTS THAT WILL AFFECT THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER AND ESTUARY. SO, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY IS FROM FISCAL YEAR 2026. IT WAS A CONTRACT WHERE WE DID NOT USE ALL THE MONEY ON ANOTHER ALLOTTED CONTRACT, AND THIS HAS JUST MOVED OVER. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU NEED TO PUT THE ANY AMOUNT OR ANY TIME FRAME JUST FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY

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SO IT'S IT'S MONEY UNDER HIS CONTRACT. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP ONCE YOU HAVE THIS CONTRACT FOR THE SURFACE AND WATER RESOURCES EVALUATION, WHERE WOULD BE THE NEXT MOVE, I GUESS, FROM YOU AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY? OKAY, SO WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND WE HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS, SO UNDER UNDER LOATHSOME, WHICH WE THE CORPS ISSUED THEIR RECORD OF DECISION IN LATE 2024, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SO THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT OPENS UP A LEGAL CHALLENGE PERIOD. AND THAT'S TO SAY THAT IF ANY OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO WERE PART AND PARCEL OF MAKING THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD UNDER THAT, IF THEY FELT LIKE THAT, IF IF THE LOATHSOME REGULATION SCHEDULE SOMEHOW WASN'T CORRECT, ACCORDING TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CHALLENGE. AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE EA RESERVOIR IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIALLY A NEW REGULATION SCHEDULE OR A TIME PERIOD THAT'S GOING TO BE OPENED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE NEW REGULATION SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF THE EA RESERVOIR. AND I GUESS I SHOULD PROBABLY STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT, THE EA RESERVOIR IS PROPOSED TO BE 6500 ACRES OF AN ABOVE GROUND RESERVOIR. AND THEN FROM THAT, THE WATER WILL BE SENT TO STORMWATER TREATMENT AREA TO BE CLEANED OF NUTRIENTS BEFORE IT IS, BEFORE IT FLOWS SOUTH INTO THE EVERGLADES. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE ANTICIPATION NOT JUST FROM THE REGULATORY AGENCIES AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT ALSO THE STAKEHOLDERS, IS THAT THAT RESERVOIR WILL TAKE WILL TAKE WATER FROM THE LAKE AND THAT WATER FROM THE LAKE THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE RESERVOIR WOULD OTHERWISE POTENTIALLY BE DISCHARGED TO TIDE, PARTLY THROUGH THE SAINT LUCIE RIVER AND ESTUARY. AND SO JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS SET OUT, THAT WHEN THEY OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD,

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THEY'RE JUST DOING THE LEGWORK AND GATHERING. OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS IT WELL BEFORE GOBY. YEAH GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

NO. OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. OH AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT. OR HE CAN ASK HIS QUESTION. WHY DID YOU DO THAT. MAKE THE MOTION PLEASE. SO. OH YEAH. MAKE A MOTION SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION RESOLUTION NUMBER 67 2026. RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING ENTRY INTO PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH HAZEN AND SAWYER, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. COMMISSIONER, JOB AND COMMISSIONER, READ THE SECOND. COMMISSIONER MATHESON, YOU HAVE A COMMENT. SO, RUTH, YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED. THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS IS I BELIEVE IT'S STEPHANIE WAS HER NAME IN THE REPORT FROM HAZEN AND SAWYER. THEY'RE COMBINING. COMING UP WITH THE DATA YOU'RE STATING ARE CITY OF STUART'S STAKEHOLDER POSITION IN ANY OF THESE ARGUMENTS. YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM ON THAT DATA. CAN YOU IF THERE'S TIME AND I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMENT PERIODS, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. BUT CLEARLY WE HAVE YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE EXPRESSED THIS TO YOU BEFORE, BUT THE PROJECT OPERATIONAL MANUAL FOR THE C44 RESERVOIR, THE ORIGINAL ONE STATED THAT IT WAS TO TAKE C 44 BASIN RUNOFF ONLY AND NOT LAKE WATER. OUR POSITION AS THE CITY OF STUART IS. WE WANT THAT RESERVOIR TO TAKE LAKE WATER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND SAME WITH THE RESERVOIR. WE WANT THE RESERVOIR TO TAKE AS MUCH LAKE WATER AS POSSIBLE. AND THE E A IS TO USE THE OTHER STAS. I MEAN THAT THAT HAS BEEN THE WAY IT'S BEEN SOLD TO THE PUBLIC.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN ANY OF US, I GUESS, CAN MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO JUST GO OVER THESE CLEAR STRATEGIC STANCES AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF STUART. AND THEN I WOULD JUST SAY AT TIMES, SOME OF THESE POSITIONS, IT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF THEY IF THEY HAVE TIME TO BRING THEM BACK AND HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. OKAY. RIGHT. SO WHAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF A LOT OF WORK AFTER HOURS ON WEEKENDS, PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER. SO HAZEN AND SAWYER HASN'T BEEN LOOKING AT IT NECESSARILY FROM STUART'S PERSPECTIVE. THEY'RE GIVING, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM TO EVALUATE AS FAR AS THE PROJECT GOES, BASED ON THE, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FROM THE CORPS AND FROM SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT. AND SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT COMING UP WITH A POSITION.

THAT'S OUR JOB. AND THEN WE WRITE THE LETTER. AND THEN IN THE PAST, WE HAVE PROVIDED THAT

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IT'S. AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THIS CONTRACT FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN AS AS LONG AS WE CAN DO IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC. AND WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I CHECK THE COURSE WEBSITE EVERY FEW DAYS AND BECAUSE YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME ABOUT. SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU AND MAYBE AND TO BE, TO HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND GET A RESOLUTION TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, TEN DAYS BEFORE YOUR MEETING AND ALL, IT CAN BE PRETTY, PRETTY CHALLENGING AS, AS MARY KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CHALLENGES OF TIME FRAME CHALLENGES WITH THESE THINGS SOMETIMES. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS IF YOU WANT TO, IF WE WANT TO KIND OF STAKE OUT POSITIONS ON CERTAIN THINGS. SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN JUST ATTACK IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JOB. OH, I'M SORRY.

ACTUALLY IT'S NOT IS IT A MOTION THAT I FORGOT TO. OKAY. SORRY. ANY OTHER STAFF COMMENT.

I MEAN COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? RESOLUTION NUMBER 58. I MEAN 6 TO 7 DASH 2026. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. CLARK, DO YOU HAVE THE MOTION IN THE THE THE SECOND. YES, I DO, IT'S CLEAR. YES. OKAY. PLEASE TAKE A VOTE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. REED? YES, COMMISSIONER. YES. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES. MAYOR CLARK. YES.

[13. APPENDIX A UPDATE (RC): RESOLUTION No. 62-2026; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF STUART, FLORIDA ADOPTING TYPES, FEES, RATES AND CHARGES AS APPENDIX “A” TO THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, AS PROVIDED AND PERMITTED IN VARIOUS CHAPTERS OF THE CITY’S CODE OF ORDINANCES; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]

PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GOING TO DO IT, ARE YOU? I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU VOTE. JUST THIS IS AN ANNUAL UPDATE OF OUR APPENDIX A FEE.

STRUCTURES STAFF HAS WORKED ON THIS PROBABLY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND ANY OF THE CHANGES REFLECT MARKET INCREASES BASED UPON A LOT OF ANALYSIS WORK THAT WAS DONE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FEES ARE ARE UP TO DATE AND COMPLIANT, AND ALSO FAIR. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY FAIR IS A GOOD WORD FOR THAT. AS YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING DOES GO UP AND, AND THINGS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BRINGING THEM UP RESPONSIBLY AND NOT ARBITRARILY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT ARE IN APPENDIX A, AS YOU CAN SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD. WE'VE GOT SOME STAFF HERE THAT COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? AND SECOND, SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS MATTER RESOLUTION. I MOVE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 62-2026. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MATHESON. IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION. ANOTHER COMMISSIONER READ HAS TO SIGN ON. I WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU, COMMISSIONER READ AND THEN I, I WANT I WROTE DOWN WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY SO THAT I, I, I DON'T FORGET IT. SO GO ON. OTHERWISE I BLURT IT OUT RIGHT NOW. NO WORRIES. MY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS I UNDERSTAND THE APPENDIX SCHEDULES GET UPDATED FOR COST ADJUSTMENTS, COST ADJUSTMENTS AND STUFF. HAS THERE BEEN ANY STUDIES DONE THAT IF WE CHARGE TOO MUCH THAT BASICALLY PEOPLE WON'T PULL PERMITS BECAUSE OF. I'M SURE THAT QUESTION HAS PROBABLY BEEN ASKED BEFORE. I KNOW I'M NOT THE FIRST, BUT EVEN LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHEN YOU PULL A HOT WATER HEATER PERMIT FOR MULTIFAMILY, IT'S CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL, BUT IT COSTS WAY MORE THAN RESIDENTIAL, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE SAME PRODUCT. SO THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT TO MAKE THAT MAYBE IT DETERS PEOPLE FROM EVEN PULLING PERMITS IF THEY COST TOO MUCH.

I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH ALL THE TIME. AND THAT IS,

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IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT CAN ADDRESS THAT? AS FAR AS THE TREE AREA, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN TALK TO OR AND I'M JUST I'M JUST THROWING THINGS OUT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. NOT THAT LIKE I'M OKAY, THEY'RE ON MY RADAR. I GUESS IT'S GETTING PEOPLE THINKING UP HERE TO PROVIDE INPUT. SURE. WE WANT TO AND WE WANT TO ANSWER YOU. YEAH.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS, IS CLARIFYING AND CLEARING IT UP. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT CERTAIN THINGS IN THIS APPENDIX SCHEDULE NEVER EXISTED. SO IT PROBABLY HELPS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO HAVE SOME OF THIS NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL. THE TREE REMOVAL IS BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE GETTING A HOUSE THAT'S TORN DOWN ON A LOT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A NEW TREE, A NEW HOUSE UP, WE TRY TO KEEP WE TRY TO LET THEM IDENTIFY WHICH TREES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE FOOTPRINT OR ANYTHING. AND, AND WE TRY TO KEEP THE TREES THAT AREN'T IN THE FOOTPRINT. WE REALLY DON'T GO BY OUR GOING OUT. WE'RE NOT OUT THERE ENOUGH. YEAH. GO AHEAD AND FIND THAT THE LANDSCAPERS ARE REMOVING TREES. THEY'RE TRIMMING THEM DOWN AND STUFF AND ALL DURING WEEKENDS OR DURING THE DAY. BUT WE TRY TO KEEP ON TOP OF THAT. IF THERE HAPPEN TO BE OUT THERE DURING THE FIVE DAY WORKWEEK IN LIEU. JUST AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IN COMMISSIONER REED'S COMMENT ABOUT THE WATER HEATERS, THOUGHTS ON THAT? IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? HOT, HOT WATER HEATER PERMIT COMMERCIALS ARE MOSTLY BOILERS THERE. WHAT? BOILERS? GOTCHA. SO THEY'RE BIGGER. WHAT ABOUT LIKE I KNOW SOME OF THE MULTI-FAMILIES HAVE AND THEN THE GAS. AND AS OPPOSED TO ELECTRICAL, DO WE HAVE ANY MULTIFAMILY THAT HAVE ELECTRIC HOT WATER HEATERS CURRENTLY? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO LIKE THAT WOULD COST MORE BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? KINGSWOOD PINES AND ALL THOSE THAT HAVE ELECTRIC, THEY, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO GO WITH TANKLESS. GOTCHA. AND WE DON'T ENCOURAGE THAT. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE FOR ELECTRIC HOT WATER HEATER AND A MULTIFAMILY VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL, OR IS IT THE SAME THING? WE'RE JUST CHARGING MORE. SAME THING, BUT BUT CHARGING MORE. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WHEN YOU GET THE COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOILERS AND RESTAURANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S, I GUESS YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY CARVE IT OUT ON THIS APPENDIX SCHEDULE IF YOU HAVE ELECTRIC VERSUS A BOILER. CORRECT. IS THAT WOULD BE A BIG DIFFERENCE THEN. RIGHT. AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET ALL THIS STUFF PERFECT. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS IN THESE APPENDIX SCHEDULES, BUT THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. I SUPPORT THE MOTION, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU LOU.

ANYBODY HAS ANY I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT. WE HAD SOMEONE WHO MADE A COMMENT, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM THAT IT WAS ON, BUT THEY CAME OUT AND APPARENTLY THEY WERE ELDERLY CITIZEN WHO CAME OUT AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF THE 10TH STREET AND THE FEES FOR THE USE OF THE 10TH STREET FOR THINGS LIKE REPASS. AND I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD GONE THROUGH AND MADE SOME SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT ON THE WEEKEND WHEN YOU HAVE THREE AND FOUR FUNERALS, ONLY ONE PERSON CAN RESERVE THE PLACE 30 DAYS AHEAD

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AND SO ARE THEY REQUIRED. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PAYING FOR ANY STAFF THAT'S THERE AND THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANY POLICE SECURITY IF ANY WERE EVER NEEDED. THAT'S CORRECT. ANY OFF DUTY DETAIL IS IS UP TO THE RENTER. IT'S ONLY REQUIRED IF THEY IF THEY HAVE ALCOHOL AND WE DON'T ALLOW ALCOHOL AT THAT FACILITY. DO YOU HAVE A ROUTINE OF ADVISING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING WEEKEND ACTIVITIES AT THE CIVIC CENTER SO THAT THEY STOP BY MORE FREQUENTLY, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT HIRED BY SOMEBODY TO BE SECURITY? IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE DO THAT. IT'S ONLY IF STAFF DEEMS IT NECESSARY BASED ON THE EVENT. IF WE HAVE, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A LARGE EVENT HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE HAVE BASEBALL GAMES GOING ON IN THE FOOTBALL FIELDS, ARE BUSY WITH SOCCER GAMES OR LACROSSE OR FOOTBALL. WE MAY JUST LET THEM KNOW SO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, BUT NOT FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN THAT. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR? ARE YOU AWARE OF THE RED LINE IN APPENDIX A RIGHT NOW? ALL THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY SERVICES? YES. AND THIS IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THESE ARE FAIR AND ACCURATE. ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR? MR. KOWALSKI I STAND BY COMMUNITY SERVICES BEING FAIR AND ACCURATE BECAUSE I KNOW MY STAFF LOOKED AT THEM, AND I TRUST THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO HAVE DONE THE SAME. OKAY. WITH REGARD TO MEMORIAL PARK AND THE AMPHITHEATER, HAVE WE PUT UP THE COST OF THOSE AS AN INCREASING COST OR LESSENING COSTS? I'LL GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ON THE AMPHITHEATER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE APPENDIX A OPENED UP. WE DIDN'T HAVE A RATE FOR THEM. SO DURING THE INAUGURAL PERIOD THAT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS THERE, WE SIMPLY TOOK THE CLOSEST FACILITY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THINGS RUNNING, WHICH WAS THE SHUFFLEBOARD COURT. AND WE DUPLICATED THE SAME RATES FOR THE SHUFFLEBOARD COURT TO THE AMPHITHEATER UNTIL WE REACHED TODAY, IN WHICH, OF COURSE, WE'VE INCREASED THOSE UP TO $400 FOR A FIVE HOUR BLOCK, OR $750 FOR A 12 HOUR BLOCK. AND AS YOU AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S DONE JUST FOR THE LAWN SPACE, LIKE INSTRUCTIONAL THINGS, FOR ATHLETIC THINGS OR JAZZERCISE OR ZUMBA, IT'S $35 FOR A TWO HOUR BLOCK OF INSTRUCTIONAL USE. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT REALLY IS THE CHEAPEST GAME IN TOWN BECAUSE WE'VE DONE OUR SURVEYS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TREASURE COAST, AND IT'S THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO. YES. AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE OWN THE FLAGLER CENTER, BUT WE LEASE IT TO THE MAIN STREET, AND THEY'RE LEASING PACKAGE THAT THEY OFFER TO PERSONS FOR WEDDINGS AND OTHER THINGS. THAT IS NOT A PART OF APPENDIX A, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. JUST JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANY STAFF OR. COMMISSIONER REED. YEAH, IT'S IT'S ALL I WAS BEING FUNNY ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN GET THE POLICE BOAT FOR 30 BUCKS AN HOUR. YOU COULD ALMOST CHARTER THAT THING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY. YEAH. AND VERY POPULAR AROUND THE 4TH OF JULY. I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL KEEP TO MYSELF. OKAY. IT'S CHEAPER THAN THE LADY OF STUART THOUGH.

30 BUCKS AN HOUR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE'RE GOING TO THE BAHAMAS FOR 30 BUCKS AN HOUR.

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AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE REFLECTED AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THANK YOU. MR. COLON. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CONFIRM ON THAT? YES. THE THE REVENUE IN THE BUDGET WAS BASED UPON THE UPDATES THAT DEPARTMENTS DID FOR APPENDIX A. IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, SYNCHRONISTIC. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 62-20. COMMISSIONER JOB HAS A COMMENT.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE THE POLICE BOAT FOR $30 AN HOUR, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IS THE CITY CHARGING FOR THE FUEL TO RUN THAT BOAT? SHOULD BE A FEE FOR THAT. DO WE DO WE KNOW THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT. GO AHEAD. I CAN ANSWER THAT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR SPECIAL EVENT FEE. SO THE REASON THAT FEE EXISTS IS IF AN EVENT IS ON THE WATER, I.E.

MARINE INDUSTRIES, THEY DO. IT'S KIND OF PART OF THAT OFF DUTY DETAIL. THEY REQUEST BOAT THE PD TO BE OUT THERE BY BOAT. AND SO THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT THAT THEY HAVE FOR THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEONE'S JUST. SO THERE'S NO BOAT. IT'S MORE FOR LIKE THAT OFF DUTY DETAIL NEED.

YEAH. IT'S AN ASSOCIATED CHARGE ALONG WITH THEIR RENTAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. YEAH. YES. I JUST BEING FUNNY ABOUT THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A SILLY QUESTION. THEY'RE ALL IN GOOD ORDER. WELL, SO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 62-2026. DID WE ASK FOR A MOTION A SECOND? YES WE DID. SECOND. ARE YOU OH DID WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. YEAH SHE DID. DID YOU HAVE ANY I DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME. I GUESS WE DO. MR. BRETT HAS A COMMENT. HE'S HIRED THE POLICE BOAT BEFORE. YEAH YEAH, YEAH, I JUST RUN THAT SIREN. IT'S SO MUCH FUN.

YEAH. I CATCH A LOT OF SNOOK THAT WAY. YEAH, AND GET DOWN TO THE BRIDGE. NO, I JUST I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS RECENTLY AND AND IT WAS I THOUGHT THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF HELPING. AND THERE'S TWO THINGS THOUGH, THAT I, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. ONE IS THAT WE ASSUME EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IS COMPUTER LITERATE, AND ALL OF THIS STUFF NOW HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS GOVERNMENT SYSTEM AND YOU GET A $25 PERMIT.

AND YEAH, YOU GOT TO GO. AND, YOU KNOW, AND NOT EVERYBODY IS COMPUTER LITERATE, HAS COMPUTERS. I'VE GOT A COUPLE CLIENTS THAT ARE LAWN GUYS. THEY DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER. I HAD ONE GUY THAT WASN'T GOING TO PAY HIS FEE BECAUSE HE COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO PAY IT, SO HE JUST WAS GOING TO KEEP IT. SO I WISH THERE WAS A WAY THAT FOR SOME THINGS, YOU COULD JUST GO IN AND PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ON TO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM AND POST YOUR THING AND DO THIS, AND THEN LOOK FOR FOLLOW UPS AND CHECK IT OUT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS I USED TO ALWAYS, AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME BECAUSE I'VE GOT A SMALL CPA FIRM, BUT YOU KNOW, PROCTOR CROOK, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE NOW CAR RIGS. AND SO THEY HAVE TO PAY A PERMITTING FEE FOR EVERY SINGLE PROFESSIONAL IN THAT OFFICE. THAT'S RELATIVELY UNUSUAL.

USUALLY WHEN YOUR FIRM HAS HAS A, YOU KNOW, HAS PAID FOR THEIR PERMIT, ALL OF THE OTHER PROFESSIONALS ARE INCLUDED. SO, I MEAN, IT REALLY DISCOURAGES A LAW FIRM FROM BEING HERE, ALTHOUGH WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE, THE CENTER DOWN HERE RIGHT DOWNTOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT TYPE OF THING MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE A HIGHER FEE FOR THE FIRM. AND THEN NOT ALL THESE LITTLE FEES THERE, HERE AND THERE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER DAY AND, YOU KNOW, CAR RIGS, THEY PROBABLY HAD 30 PROFESSIONALS AT ONE POINT IN TIME. THEY'RE PAYING $3,000 A YEAR FOR, FOR THE PERMIT. SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED TO COME UP.

OH, AND ONE LAST THING. I'M TRYING TO DO THIS GRAND OPENING THING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TRYING TO DO AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON A LOT OF THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY DO IT FOR 30 DAYS, ONE TIME. YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT WE HAD A LITTLE EASIER WAY OF GETTING THE BUSINESSES ADVERTISED, PARTICULARLY NEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE STARTING THAT WE COULD GET THAT DONE. ANYWAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. BRECK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE ON APPENDIX A? I JUST WANTED TO SAY I, I DO AGREE WITH BRECK BILL'S COMMENTS. JUST EVEN RENEWING A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT CAN BE A CHALLENGE ONLINE. I PREFER JUST TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE

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THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WE, I CAN ATTEST WE DO AN AWFUL LOT OF HANDHOLDING.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT A PART OF THE RECORD THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS. THEY CAN ALWAYS COME IN HERE AND WE HELP THEM FILL IT OUT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 622-62026, WHICH HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER RICH, RICH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MATHESON. AND WE'VE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER. CITY CLERK. MAYOR. CLERK. YES, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER.

RICH. YES, COMMISSIONER. READ. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES. WE'RE ALMOST AT THE END. I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER REED HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE END. I KNOW THAT WE HAD SENT BACK TO THE STAFF. YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR LIGHTS ON? NO. NOT EVEN ON? NO.

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UNDERSTANDING NOT ONLY THE ACQUISITION COSTS, BUT THE OWNERSHIP COSTS. WOULD WE HAVE TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THESE PROPERTIES. AND IT ALSO WOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON WHAT PROPERTIES THEY VIEW AS THE MOST VALUABLE. SO THERE'S NO RUSH HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER MATHESON HAS BROUGHT UP. THERE'S NOBODY BETTER QUALIFIED TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS SUGGESTION. YOU KNOW, LET'S GET OUR OWN LITTLE CITY OF STUART E LAW COMMITTEE GOING, GET THESE PROPERTIES RANKED AND THEN FEEL VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THE PROPERTIES WE'RE PROPOSING TO POSSIBLY SHARE ACQUISITION COSTS WITH THE WITH THE COUNTY.

SO THAT IS MY MOTION. THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RICH. CLERK DO YOU HAVE THAT MOTION BEFORE WE EVEN GET IT? SECONDED. YES. TO PULL BACK THE CITY SO THAT IT CAN RANK PROPERTIES THEMSELVES SUGGEST GETTING OUR HAVING OUR OWN BACK. AND SO ENVIRONMENTAL LAND ACQUISITION.

IS THERE A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND FOR SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MATHESON. ANY DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONER REED AND COMMISSIONER MATHESON NEXT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT YOUR YOUR FIRST. I SUPPORT IT, I MEAN, I, I, I SUPPORT ACQUIRING AS MUCH CONSERVATION LAND IN THE CITY AND THE WAY WE STRUCTURED IT WITH MARTIN COUNTY FOREVER AND WHAT I'VE KNOWN. I THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL TO HAVE OUR OWN LOCK, SO TO SAY, YOU KNOW, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE RANK ALL OF THE LANDS. AND THE REASON BEING, WHEN WE

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IT WAS CLEARLY MADE AT THAT MEETING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WANT IF I CAN, I JUST BACK UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SO WE HAD A RESOLUTION NUMBER 35-2026, WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION HAD VOTED FOR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING, FIRST OFF, PURSUE CREATION OF A TRAILHEAD AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE IN HANEY CREEK OFF OF BAKER ROAD, AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING LAND IN THE AVONLEA AREA. USING PROCEEDS FROM THE HALF CENT SALES TAX AND ALSO AUTHORIZING CITY STAFF TO COLLABORATE WITH MARTIN COUNTY IN THE JOINT ACQUISITION OF UNDEVELOPED PARCELS IN THE AVONLEA AREA, WHICH THAT INCLUDES GOING THROUGH THEIR CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND COMMISSIONER MATHESON'S ON THAT BOARD, AND HE CAN PROBABLY GIVE MORE DETAILS, BUT THEY MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. AND SO THEY HAD REQUESTED THEY HAD REQUESTED STAFF FROM MARTIN COUNTY, APPROACHED STAFF FROM CITY OF STUART WANTING TO KNOW IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COLLABORATING ON THOSE PARCELS IN AVONLEA. I THINK AT THE TIME IT WAS THE HEIRESS FROM THE SPICE. I FORGET WHAT SPICE COMPANY IT IS, BUT THERE WAS AN HEIRESS THAT HAD MONEY THAT WENT TO SPEND, AND SHE ENDED UP BUYING MONEY AND BUYING LAND IN HOBE SOUND AREA. BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WITH STAFF FROM MARTIN IS US COLLABORATING WITH THAT MONEY. BUT SO I WENT FORWARD INSTEAD OF GOING FORWARD AND PURCHASING LAND. ME AND THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, MR. GIARDINO, WE DECIDED TO TRY AND DO THE EFFORT WITH THE COUNTY FIRST TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY. I WENT BEFORE THE AND THEY ONLY MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN PROBABLY JUNE THAT I WENT BEFORE THEM AND I RECOMMENDED THE SEVEN PARCELS IN AVONLEA ERA THAT WE WERE. THAT WAS UP FOR CONSIDERATION. AND. ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD KIND OF CAME OUT OF THE CHUTE TO NOT

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IT'S BASED ON POPULATION. THAT'S. SO THE COUNTY DOESN'T GET ANY PORTION OF THE CITY AT ALL. WELL, LET ME BACK UP BECAUSE JUST SO SO WHEN AT THAT MEETING I DID NOT VOTE ON THAT, I HAD A HARD STOP TO ANOTHER MEETING TO ATTEND. SO I HEARD ABOUT IT FROM COUNTY STAFF AND FROM LEE. AND IF IT COMES UP, I'VE TALKED TO LEE ABOUT THIS. IF IT COMES UP AND TO THE COUNTY STAFF, I WILL BE ABSTAINING THIS THURSDAY FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I'M SITTING. COMMISSIONER. BUT RIGHT NOW, NO, THE MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BOARD POSITION WAS THEY WERE AGAINST THAT BECAUSE THE CITY GETS BASED ON THE POPULATION IN THE COUNTY, THAT 2.7 MILLION IS THE COUNTY, THE CITY SHARE OF BEING IN THE COUNTY FOR THAT SALES TAX. YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF US BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER GRANTS. THAT'S THE WHOLE WAY THIS THING WAS STRUCTURED. I WOULD ASK, THOUGH, HOW MANY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES ARE ARE IN THE CITY OF STUART RIGHT NOW.

ARE YOU ASKING ME? THIS IS THE I CAN DEFINITELY SAY THE SEVEN PARCELS IN AVONLEA, AND SOME OF THEM ARE ABOUT UP TO FIVE ACRES. NO, I MEAN, THE ENTIRE LIKE THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT I WOULD LIKE A BOARD TO LOOK AT. RIGHT. HOW MANY UNDEVELOPED PARCELS ARE IN THE CITY OF STUART. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S LOOK AT I HAVE OUR OWN COMMITTEE. LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AND RANK

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MOTION, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT IT'S NOT, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF WRAPPED UP INTO ONE BECAUSE YOU DISCUSSED IT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE BOARD, IT'S JUST NOT PART OF YOUR MOTION. WITH IT. ARE YOU ASKING THERE WOULD BE IN THEIR MOTION OR YOU'RE JUST. NO, I WAS JUST SAYING I DON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION, HOW IT'S CREATED BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE GOING TO THE THURSDAY'S MEETING THEN. AND I THINK IT SHOULD CONTINUE ON JUST SO WE CAN HEAR FEEDBACK THEN FROM LEGAL AS WELL WHEN THEY DO ATTEND THE MEETING. AND THEN AS FAR AS HOW THE BOARD IS MADE UP, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SIMILAR REFLECTING TO OUR ADVISORY BOARD, LIKE THE CRA, FOR EXAMPLE. SURE. I WAS, I GUESS IN MY MIND THINKING A LITTLE MORE LIKE THE LPA, BUT I MEAN EITHER ONE OR LP. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AS COMMISSIONERS.

AND THAT'S WHY MY, MY MOTION LAST MEETING WAS TO PUT THAT ON FOR AN AGENDA TOPIC WITH RUTH HOLMES HERE AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, SHE WOULD KIND OF OVERSEE THAT ADVISORY BOARD AND WE'D HAVE TO DECIDE, DO WE? YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO TO CREATE THAT BOARD AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, FRANKLY, I SPECIFICALLY STRUCTURED IT SO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID NOT PICK THEIR PEOPLE. IT WAS REPRESENTATIVES FROM ESTABLISHED GROUPS, THREE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, A MEMBER OF THE REALTORS, A MEMBER OF THE TAXPAYERS, TWO MEMBERS, I BELIEVE, OF THE AG INDUSTRY AND A MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO BE DIVERSE, BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT THIS WOULD LAST FOR TEN YEARS. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE COUNTY OFFICIALS ARE IN TEN YEARS. SO THAT THEY WEREN'T PICKING THAT ADVISORY GROUP. OUR ADVISORY GROUP, I IMAGINE, IS PROBABLY GOING TO ONLY GO 1 TO 3 MEETINGS. I WOULD HOPE WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS ALL THE PROPERTIES. SO ONE, WE MIGHT JUST ALL FIVE OF US PICK A REPRESENTATIVE AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STAFF PICKS 1 OR 2 REPRESENTATIVES AND WE HAVE THEM MEET. BUT THEN OVER THOSE 1 OR 2 MEETINGS, THE STAFF HAS LABELED EVERY SINGLE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL IN THE CITY OF STUART AND GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF DATA FOR THAT BOARD TO EVALUATE AND THEN MAKE PROPOSALS. AND THE END OUTCOME WOULD BE THAT CITY STAFF HAS SAY THERE'S JUST THESE ARE HYPOTHETICAL NUMBERS, BUT SAY THERE'S 50 PROPERTIES IN THE CITY AND 25 ARE HIGH PRIORITY TO ACQUIRE, AND THE OTHER 25 ARE LOW PRIORITY. WELL, THEN THE STAFF CAN RUN WITH 25 PROPERTIES AND SEEK THE BEST DEAL FOR LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS. AND THOSE OTHER 25 MIGHT NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE CLEARED PARCELS, THEY'RE UNDEVELOPED, BUT THEY'RE CLEARED. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO ANALYZE. BUT IN THEORY, THE THE CITY STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT WHEN THEY'RE GOING DOWN THAT LIST OF 25, YOU KNOW, IF PARCEL OWNER ONE, TWO AND THREE WANT TOP DOLLAR, THEY JUST MOVE ON TO FOUR, FIVE AND SIX TO GET A BETTER DEAL. AND WE START ACQUIRING SOME PROPERTIES. THAT'S HOW THAT'S THE SAME MODEL AS WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL RIGHT NOW. THE COUNTY LEVEL. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE BOARD I SIT ON HAS APPROVED TO GO TO THE COMMISSION 11000 ACRES. 3000 HAD BEEN ACQUIRED BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PARCELS, THEY'RE NOT. THE NEGOTIATIONS OF FINAL HARD NUMBERS HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT THE COUNTY STAFF CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PARCEL, THE NEXT PARCEL AND GET SOME ACQUIRING. AND ACTUALLY, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN SOME OF THE PARCEL OWNERS

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SO WE ARE TAKING BACK THE PART. THEY NEVER RANKED THEM IN THE FIRST MEETING. SO THE, THE GOAL OF THE LOT AND AGAIN COMMISSIONER MATHESON CAN GIVE YOU MORE INSIGHT. THEY'RE GOING TO THEY HAVE A CRITERIA OF WHAT WAS IT LIKE 710 LIKE CRITERIA LIST. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LIST. AND YOU GUYS HAVE TO RANK THEM. AND THEY HAD POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH. AND SO THEY JUST NEVER HAD THE WE NEVER DID THAT ON THESE PARCELS. I WAS THE LAST ONE. THEY THEY DID THEM ON ALL THE OTHER PROPOSED PARCELS. BUT WHEN THEY GOT TO US, IT WAS COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN THAT THE CITY CAN DO THIS ON THEIR OWN.

AND IT NEVER REALLY GOT TO A RANKING. SO WHEN I TALKED TO STAFF AFTER THE MEETING, I'M LIKE, I MEAN, THEY NEVER RANKED IT. ARE THEY? CAN THEY SHUT IT DOWN OR. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

AND COUNTY ATTORNEY DISAGREED WITH THEIR ACTION AND SAID THAT THEY STILL NEED TO RANK THEM AND THEY COULD RANK THEM ZERO. SO GOING THURSDAY DOESN'T REALLY HURT US AT ALL. THE CITY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. WELL, I GUESS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, IF IT GOES TO THE LOC, THE NEXT STEP IS WITHIN A MEETING OR TWO. IT'LL GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH THEIR RANKING, AND THEN IT'LL START ESCALATING FROM THERE. AND I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE WANT TO KEEP MORE CONTROL OVER. AND I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP WAY EARLIER, COMMISSIONER RICH. LIKE, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, I AGREE, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BACKSTORY OF YOUR MOTION OR IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME MORE INSIGHT TO IT.

IT'S WEIRD WHY IT'S HAPPENING ALL OF A SUDDEN. WHAT, THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING? THANK YOU. POINT OF ORDER. I WANTED TO ASK MR. RICH ALSO, JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THIS RELATED TO WE HAD ASKED FOR INVENTORY WITH REGARD TO PROPERTIES A LONG TIME AGO, BUT WE HADN'T SINCE.

AND AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET FUNDS NOW. AND WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER WHO'S WANTING TO PUT AHEAD. SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING. IT'S ALL. BUT IT'S NEW IN TERMS OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. SO THAT'S ONE THING I JUST WANT TO ESTABLISH. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ESTABLISH IS YOU GUYS HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD COME ABOARD. WE HAD THE THE EAST STUART HISTORICAL COMMITTEE, AND WE DROPPED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE WE NEEDED IT. AND THEN NOW WE SAID THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD TO RUN LIKE THE LP AND OTHER GROUPS THAT HAD TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SUNSHINE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THESE IDEAS AND CHECK THE CHARTER AND SEE HOW IT FITS IN, OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND ALL THESE THINGS. SO. MR. BAGGETT, DO YOU REMEMBER MR. REED BRINGING THIS UP IN TERMS OF THE IDEA OF HAVING AN INVENTORY THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME WAY TO WORK WITH IT? AND IT'S BEEN ONLY SINCE AUGUST 24TH THAT MR. MATHESON CAME ON AND HAD THIS IDEA THAT HE DID WANT TO TRY TO FOLLOW THROUGH THE SIMILAR TO THE COUNTY AND GET SOME AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE. SO WITH REGARD TO OUR CHARTER AND THE IDEA OF CREATING A NEW COMMITTEE AND HAVING IT FOLLOW GUIDELINES, GUESS IF WE DO PASS THIS MOTION, IT WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME KIND OF A MODEL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS COMMITTEE, IS THAT NO, I'M SORRY, POINT OF ORDER. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS. COMMISSIONER MATHESON HAS ASKED FOR THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA. IT HAS NOT BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDA. WE'VE HAD OTHERS. THIS JUST SAYS DO NOT GO TO THE MEETING ON

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OKAY, I TOTALLY THIS WILL ALLOW MR. BAGGETT A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT YOUR MOTION IS JUST TO JUST LET'S NOT TAKE LET'S RANK, LET'S GET AN INVENTORY OF ALL OUR PROPERTY, RANK THEM AND THEN GO TO YOU. SO DON'T GO THURSDAY. IT'S ALL THIS IS OKAY, SO I GUESS I'LL NEED SOME INSTRUCTIONS SO I CAN CONTACT COUNTY STAFF AND TELL THEM TO REMOVE IT FROM THIS BOARD MEETING. BUT WE CAN REVISIT IT AT A FUTURE MEETING. ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY. NOT THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING IT ANYMORE. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN, MAYOR, I THINK COMMISSIONER MATHESON IS ENVISIONING SOMETHING MORE TEMPORARY WHEN HE SAYS 1 TO 3 MEETINGS. AND I THINK WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WHEN WE DID THE WE SET UP AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE SEARCH OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. AND WE HAD, I THINK, TWO MEETINGS WHERE WE. WE HAD ONE COMMISSIONER COLLINS AT THE TIME, AND I THINK MATT STUCKEY AND A FEW OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE MET TWICE. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A PERMANENT THING. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO ADD IT TO OUR CHARTER OR TO OUR ORDINANCES. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY SEARCH OPEN TO SUNSHINE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY. I JUST I DON'T ENVISION THERE BEING THAT MANY PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THIS COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUPLE MONTHS, I THINK A COUPLE MEETINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO RANK ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY. THANK YOU. SO, CITY ATTORNEY, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON UNINTENTIONALLY FORGOT TO TAKE IT. SO. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PUT THIS VERY SPECIFIC MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER RICH RICH HAS MADE AND WHICH HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MATHESON? AS REINSTATED? I HAVE, PER ENVIRONMENTAL OVERSIGHT LAND COMMITTEE OR E LOCK YET INVENTORY RANK THEM AND DON'T GO TO THE MEETING THIS WEEK.

OKAY. THAT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER READ, I WOULD SAY SKIP. YEAH. WITH INSTRUCTION FOR MR. BAGGETT TO CONTACT THE COUNTY TO POSTPONE. YES. POSTPONE THE NEXT MEETING.

HOPEFULLY WE HAVE IT BY THE NEXT MEETING. I BELIEVE IS IN, I BELIEVE DECEMBER. I THINK THEY SAID QUARTERLY. SO YEAH. MAKES SENSE. SEPTEMBER AND DECEMBER, IT'LL BE SOON ENOUGH.

SLOW IT DOWN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON MR. REED'S MR. RICH? MR. MR. RICHARDS, COMMISSIONER RICHARDS. MOTION. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, BUT I'LL STATE THAT WE ARE VERY DIFFERENT. I KNOW ALL DUE RESPECT, THESE THINGS VERY CONFUSING. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THEY'RE CLEARLY LABELED. BUT YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR, I, I HEAR YOU. NO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR. CLERK.

YES, COMMISSIONER. REED. NO. COMMISSIONER. RICH. YES. COMMISSIONER. MATHESON. YES.

COMMISSIONER. YES. BEEN A LONG. THANK YOU. WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 15. THERE WERE NOT.

THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE ADDED. WE ARE NO DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION. NO. YEAH. DID YOU

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